Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Ex Cop Speaks Out About Corruption In The Police Force...

Episode Date: November 9, 2023

Ex Cop Speaks Out About Corruption In The Police Force...

When you see a U-Haul coming out of the Frikan Valley, out of Covalo down into the main highway 101, it's filled with the fucking weed, 900% of the time. Thousands of pounds of the process. You got two dudes that are from Mexico here illegally. And then they take it, they sell it, and the fear factor was so huge for these people. Now they're coming up, like, in other parts of the county. Where I know U.S. attorneys that have been caught manufacturing evidence, fired, and then rehired in another jurisdiction in a supervisor's position.

So you were given a promotion. You've already framed people. If that's happening in a federal level, what's it like at a good old boys network of a small town sheriff's department? They do a search warrant for the IP address comes back to the lieutenant's house. That's fucking weird.

Let's do a search warrant to the internet provider. Okay, it's Comcast under the lieutenant's name. Okay, that's weird. Who lives in the lieutenant's house at the time? The lieutenant, his wife, 18-year-old son. So let's do some common sense here. It's more than likely going to be the lieutenant or his son. Hey, this is Matt Cox, and I am here with Trent James.

He is a former law enforcement officer, and he's got a super interesting story, and we're going to get into it right now. So check it out. Yeah, so I'm 35 years old. Currently, I was born in Harbord, West Wales. My mom was in the military. Never met my dad. And she was a single mom for the vast majority of her. know my the earlier years during my childhood we moved around a few times and i ended up in

midasino county california when i was about eight years old in yucaya that and minasino county is very rural and it's part of the emerald triangle along with humble county and trinity county and that is basically those three counties are where the vast majority of the marijuana the good marijuana is grown for the entire country so uh i grew up there and very I was a piece of shit growing up for sure I was I was not a good kid by any means and through my teenage years I was very very angry got suspended a lot all the time and switched a couple different schools barely graduated high school I didn't give a shit about anything back then you know and when you're a teenager kind of also

you think that you know what's best and you know everything I had a lot of run-ins with law enforcement during those years too. And I would say, you know, cussing out to their face. I would say, fuck you, you know, pig and stuff like that. I hated cops. And it was, you know, I got arrested a couple times once when I was 17, another time when I just turned 18 over a little stupid bullshit. Nothing major. But I, yeah, I just really pissed off and angry. I had no direction, no idea what I wanted to do with my life at all at that point. And my mom, God bless her, she had zero control over anything that I did. And she, you know, would tell me like, you don't give the shit. You don't care about your life. You don't care about anything. And I said,

I don't. It was very, I was very self-destructive. And it, looking back, I went out of my way to make my situation worse as, as, you know, the worst that I could make my life at the time. I did it intentionally just because I was so pissed all the time for whatever fucking reason that is. I don't know. But anyway, so I graduated. I skipped third grade, so I graduated high school a little early. And, you know, I didn't turn 18 for a while after that. So I fucked around for three additional years or so after high school, just drinking, partying.

And again, having zero goals in addition or direction where some of my friends have got off to college. but my close best friends I was partying with those guys and you know now those dudes have been arrested multiple times a couple of my really close friends gotten to meth heroin shit like that and I you know I'm grateful I didn't go down that path but yeah so anyway I decided that I started getting into working out and taking care of myself which changed my whole life it gave me some structure and it gave me the uh The more that I saw progress, it made me want to continue to go down that route and not party and drink and smoke weed and do all that stupid shit that I was doing and fucking around. So it helped me mature a little bit, which I was incredibly immature up until that point.

Not that I'm overly mature now, but I decided to move out of county with one of my buddies. And I made that decision because I knew that if I stayed where I was living, I was going to end up in prison at some point just because of how I was. And so we went out of county and that friend now, he works for, he's a highway patrol guy and still close friends to this day. But I ended up going to college and I took a criminal justice class as part of a general education requirement. And at that point, I had no intention of being a cop ever. And it was very interesting to me. It was the only subject matter that for whatever reason ever interested me up into that point. I hated school.

Again, like I said, I barely graduated high school. Fortunately, for me in high school, I had some really cool fucking teachers and a really cool principal that went out of their way to make sure that I didn't get expelled or whatever. Like, I mean, I was on academic probation and attendance probation and behavior probation, all that shit with the school. So that really helped me a lot. And for whatever reason, they liked me. I don't know. But that day, I still remember them. And actually, I hated fucking cops back then.

but I do remember our school resource officer to this day. And this was in like 2003 or four. Glenn Stark, I still remember him. Never saw him again after high school. But he was the only cop at the time that I did not cuss out to his face and say you're a piece of shit because you're a cop. He took the time to talk to me and, you know, I had respect for that guy. So anyway, I took a criminal justice class. It was very interesting to me.

And I was like 20 at the time. and so I said like maybe I can this is like this is weird because I was fucking hated cops so I ended up going on a ride along with a local law enforcement agency where I was going to college and I was like holy fuck this shit's actually pretty badass so I continued my education got a bachelor's degree in criminal justice and this was in like 2012 I think and back then it was hard as fuck to get hired like 2008 to 2013 because of the recession. They were laying off a lot of dudes. It was very competitive. And the whole reason I went to college also was, you know, why I knew I needed a bachelor's degrees because I knew

that my background was all fucked up and nobody was going to even look at me if I didn't have something positive in there because they look at time from the last time you fucked up and what you've done since then. We're going through a background check with these cop jobs. So went through in 2012. I'm sorry, graduated 2012. And then shortly after that, I got hired as an adult probation officer initially back in Mendocino County. So I moved back there. And it was not what I wanted to do, but I was just happy to have a job in law enforcement. I was still super young. So I thought that like I can segue into something else later and be an actual street cop. So I did that for a short period of time, had a caseload of, well, initially I was writing pre-sentence

investigations reports for dudes that were, you know, going through the court proceedings to see if they were going to be eligible for probation. Then I had a caseload. Was this federal? No, this was local. So adult probation, just county, county probation. So, yeah, guys that would get, you know, felony, it was all felony level shit. So then I had a caseload. My first caseload was like 150 fucking dudes and it was really weird for me because I hadn't been back to that county for fucking years at that point like I left for I don't it was a long time and so two of the dudes on my caseload were fucking my old some of my best friends that I had grown up and I was sitting on the other side of the table with these guys and one of them I was fucking

piss testing which was awkward as fuck and he looked like dog shit I used to play baseball with them and shit and I was I was actually heavy into sports growing up but he dude just like just meth and and you know so I actually went to my supervisor I'm like I can't I can't fucking watch these guys like because it's it's too not that I'm going to do anything wrong it's just it's too fucking weird man it's it's I don't want there to be any issues you know because you never know what gets said and I was like I'm not trying to get in trouble here right I just I don't need it this is too close to home these guys like were my best like two my best friends so uh yeah i just i don't want to like run a risk of having anything misconstrued

if something needs to go to court later on and be like oh trent didn't disclose the fact that they're fucking they used to be best friends and shit so um i was trying to do the right thing and she's like yeah that sucks strength tough shit you know it's a small or a small county and then you got to just fucking make it work and i was like all right i'll go fuck myself then i guess so um i thankfully um in that department oh my fucking god that had talked about about corruption and bullshit there. One of my friends there, she was dating the chief of, well, he later became chief of police at the local PD

and just bad domestic violence. He later got fired for in that town in Yucaya for forcing a woman while he was on duty as a police chief to give immoral sex at her house. And then he got fired and he also lost a civil case against my friend for. or beating the shit out of her during a relationship in front of her daughter. But during that time, it was everybody against my friend, the female.

You're full of shit. He would never do that. Like, that's impossible. And this is the common theme in law enforcement, especially where I worked and where I grew up, is that people have, that they don't know any better. They have this misconception that cops are perfect angel fucking boy scouts. or you're robots with no human emotion. And they have this, this expectation. Now, it's a little different these days where people,

because of so much shit in the media, that people don't necessarily have that view. But back then, it was like, it's impossible. He's a cop. No way. No way. Just because he's a fucking cop. And so anyway, later on, yeah, look what happened.

So I actually got recruited to the local sheriff's office there, short time of probation as a deputy. And right when I was on field training, this is what I heard about our DA at the time, the district attorney for the county. Some of the old guys would tell me this. I got told a lot of shit back then for some fucking reason. And I don't know why, but these the older dudes, the older generation, they say, you know about the DA, right? And I said, no, what about it? Well, he runs an extortion scheme.

And I'm like, what do you mean? They're like, well, weed's obviously fucking huge, you know, around here. And it was, dude. Like, when I was growing up, even as a kid, like, everybody, fucking smoked wheat. It was commonplace. Like you just did their parents. They could steal it from their parents. Um, you see grows fucking everywhere. It is just it, it's fucked. It was everywhere, always. So in 90s when I was grown up, um, and and everything. So, uh, I was like, what do you mean? So they're like, well, when when we go bust these growers for, it was a felony

at the time in California for cultivation. Um, will, you know, seize their assets or or cash or or or weed, right? And so the DA at the time, when it was still a felony, they're like, he will bring him in his office and he'll say, do you want to buy, you know, what do you want to do? Do you want to buy a fucking misdemeanor? Right. And so that's what was going on back then. It was like a lot of, uh, it was all cash. Um, a lot of people have come forward from this RICO case that I'm going to talk about too and brown paper bags, zero receipts, $50,000, $100,000 one on one conversations in his fucking office. Um, Like in in this is all act this is all public record too he actually got had a lawsuit this because so what he did to justify this is he combined two health and safety code laws which you're a fucking DA you you you don't have the authority to change laws by the way also the interest of justice because he's like well it's going to be cheaper if these guys just give us money and we don't have to run them through a jury trial and waste taxpayer dollars and all this shit but the funny thing about that is through this RICO case I mean there's zero documentation.

for any of it there's no receipts there's no paper trailers and nothing what the fuck did that money go and at the time when i heard that when i was super young and naive and and green um i was even then i was like that sounds illegal as fuck and they're like yeah it is but nobody gives a shit so i was like all right so um but it was common knowledge and he's admitted to doing it but for those reasons that i that i just gave so that was kind of my introduction into coproar there and you know midasino county it's very just to give some, um, uh, like a visual here. So it's, it's a huge fucking county, huge, massive, very rural, very beautiful.

But, you know, the town that I grew up in, Yucaya, at the time it was like 30,000, 40,000 people, maybe, um, small. And everybody knew each other, uh, a lot of like rancher dudes and, and, you know, that, that's sort of a thing. But, uh, so as time goes on, um, I actually, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, shortly went to work in Covalho, Brown Valley, which is an hour and a half northeast of where I live in Yucayas. Still part of the county, though, but it's an hour and a half away in the same fucking county is huge. And so I spent the vast majority of my career there as a deputy. I was a resident deputy and that means that I lived in that town. I policed it like you would think of the 1850s and the old west where it's one sheriff for a whole town. That's what I did. And I was a canine.

handler for like three and a half years. So I had a dog at the time. And that place was fucking crazy because it was, it's very, very small. It was like a population of 1,500 to 2,000. And the nearest town from that was an hour, about 45 minutes away. And that town was only 4,000 people. So it was way out in the middle of nowhere. And I did that alone. But that town is a huge population of Mexican cartel and then a huge check-reboarded Native American reservation. And then you have, you know, population of, you know, white people. There's like a couple schools. There's a one grocery store, very small, two gas stations. But this town is was the most dangerous area in the entire county like by far the most violent. And the the cartel

dudes back then or they still do this but weeds gone down a lot since it got legalized but a lot of them would pay the Native Americans to grow on reservation land um but what would happen is a lot of the homicide so many fucking homicides and kidnappings and like the worst crimes you can think of really um I was dealing with it alone for years on end like I didn't have any backup it was always an hour away um sometimes I had help from the tribal police guys when they were on duty but California unlike a lot of other states reservations it's a public law 280 state meaning that the sheriff's office has jurisdiction over reservation land not the tribal police so everything on the res was was us it was the sheriff's office that were dealing with it so but that was a huge part of the weed was up there and during this time too i came to find out more about my administration the guys that were in charge of me the lieutenants there um and the sheriff's office wasn't huge You know, we had like 65 sworn, I think, always short-staffed. And it was a good old boys club.

It was dudes that had known each other for fucking 25, 30 years, you know, just old white motherfuckers that, quite frankly, had lost touch with reality, don't know how to community police. They're involved in a lot of weird shit, too. But going through my time there, you know, you hear more stories about these guys, right? And this is documented fucking shit, too. Like, what was wild to me is that one of my lieutenants, sentence at the sheriff's office had been fired early in his career from a neighboring

sheriff's office for raping a woman on duty. He arrested her male counterpart, her boyfriend or whatever for domestic violence, arrested him, took him to jail, went back and raped her, right? And he, huge fucking lawsuit. She immediately called the FBI. She didn't even call anybody local. She's like, fuck that right when he left, FBI. And, um, She was able to fully prove that he was there because he had his dumbass had his radio on and the traffic that was coming through. She heard it relayed that to the feds. They backtracked it through dispatch and like, okay, he was definitely there. One story short, that county is also a small corrupt pile of shit that has a massive history too. And of course he got terminated. But the thing with this is cops when they fuck up especially, you know, I've even known dudes that have been terminated for fucked up shit. They get allowed to. a lot of them quit or resign in lieu of termination right they get afforded that ability um it's a privilege it really is and it depends on how cool you are with your administration a lot of times that happens because dude fuck like we don't want to let you go we like you but you you fucked up big time on this

holy shit so he didn't go to prison because the victim in that case um it went it went on for a while she settled out like it was a huge fucking lawsuit so he stayed he got fired and stayed out of it for a little bit and then he went to become a cop at my department back in the day because his dad and his mom both worked at the sheriff's office his dad was a supervisor who was friends with the sheriff at the time and um you know one of my other lieutenants was a prior nortaino gang member that used to sell meth and acid and got arrested for beating the fuck out of somebody with baseball bat in his you know early 20s um and did more shit on patrol but he gets promoted and then another one that's a documented pedophile had sex with a 14 15 year

girl as a cop from his fire department um got fired and you know of course got a job at bi agency and they're all protected and um another one act dude so the and the guy that's in charge of ia's there so that's eternal affairs investigation so when cops do something against policy or the law violation they will go into somebody files a justified formal complaint their department will ideally put them into an investigation, look into it and try to validate it or invalidate it, right? So the dude that runs that there currently was fired from his prior department for a hit and run on duty and why in his own IA got fired and now he's in charge of him because his stepdad or his father-in-law at the time was the captain at the sheriff's office. So you see a little little mafia. Yeah. So my buddy that I'm getting to, this is all super fucking a bridge too, like I said, dude.

So my buddy that is going through this RICO case, I say he's heading it up, but there's like a shitload of people involved in terms of the victims of this thing. But he actually said in Minnesota County where I'm from, the cop shops there, the law enforcement agencies, including the DA's office. It's its own criminal enterprise. He actually said that too. It's like the mafia. Yeah. Well, I, you know, I, I, I had watched your, a couple of the videos on your channel, on the, the confessions channel, not the, the two cops. Yeah. But I'd watch one of those videos and you were talking about how people leave comments and this kind of stuff doesn't happen and this isn't true. And I mean, I know, like, I know U.S. attorney, I know of U.S. attorneys just from doing, just from writing stories where I know U.S. attorneys that have been caught manufacturing.

evidence, caught lying, fired, and then rehired in another jurisdiction in a supervisor's position. So you were just an assistant U.S. attorney. Now you're a supervising U.S. attorney. So you were given a promotion. Granted, it was a year later in another jurisdiction, but I mean, you shouldn't have been a U.S. attorney. You've already framed people. You've been proven to frame people like there's what there's there's there's there's court cases showing matter of fact the middle district had to pay i think three and a half million dollars because you framed someone and they just rehire you and that happens you know so if that's happening in a federal level what's it like at a good old boys network of a small town sheriff's department you know like

obviously it's it's it's much much worse you're absolutely right and you you know you you do know you have a lot of knowledge on that front too. And I want to, in a little bit, I want to talk about something else that I saw. You said it's totally applicable to a lot of these things, too, that I saw in one of your videos. But the thing of it is, at the time when I started that channel, I'll get into that in a minute, like people are so, people in the outside world, like just that live at any other place, like Florida, even where I'm at now in Texas.

Actually, maybe not. This place is fucked up, too. but um like they have a hard time at that county is so small that a lot of these people grew up together it's a lot truly is everybody knows everybody and so the people that i was talking about on the youtube channel like the for example just the lieutenants very brief i didn't even hit on every every supervisor there either um their friends are everywhere in the community families everywhere in the community so they had this like people would say oh trent you're full of shit you're making this up and i'm like because they don't want to nobody wants to hear that

shit you don't want to hear your fucking uh uncle your your dad your brother your your lifetime friend is a a felon pedophile rapist fucking crook right nobody wants to hear that shit so you're going to be like this is impossible i've never known him to be anything other than a great solid stand-up cop it's like yeah dumb shit like what do you think they're going to do to you sit you down and say hey man um just want to let you know i've been committing fucking crimes don't tell me no so that's not how that works right So, you know, people thought I was full of shit until all this stuff started to come to fruition that I was talking about.

But like that rape thing I told you about full fucking report, man, that still is, I'm not going to say where it is, but it is in existence. And a lot of these other things are fully documented, right? But so anyway, so I'm hearing all these shit throughout the years, right? And these lieutenants that I'm discussing too, aside from the IA guy, nobody fucking like these guys. And there is a massive issue in law enforcement still to this day. I have friends that are cops across the fucking country, man, and in Homeland Security, fucking the FBI, Department of Justice, police department, sheriff's offices, like all kinds of shit, right?

Guys that used to be lieutenants and sergeants and stuff, I was a sergeant at one point. But it's an issue that plagues a lot of areas in the country. And since I started my other social media platforms like i've had conversations with a shitload of cops that are experiencing the same things that i did and it's basically what that means is a lot of corruption at the administrative level um these guys that are in those positions that run that world get promoted for specific reasons and they are uh they just they just they just ruin fucking lives man there's a lot of shit that goes on behind closed doors that would completely the public has no fucking clue the public has no idea. Now, you see, you see shit on, like, CNN about a cop, like, unjustifiably

beating somebody up. What about unjustifiably murdering somebody? You know what I'm saying? I'm not talking about, like, where he said he had a gun and shit. I'm talking about going to their fucking house at nighttime and blowing their fucking head off, right? And the shit that you see, like, in Hollywood movies and stuff with some of these guys, like, I worked with those dudes in their prime, right? When they were, this is like back before, they were doing the shit like the early in late 90s, early 2000s, you know, when I was still a kid for sure. And that's what the current sheriff would fall back on when I talk out about these guys. Oh, Trent's just talking about shit that happened when he was a kid or, you know, a long time ago.

Well, it's like, yeah, that's cool, bro. But let me ask you this. Do you think that because I was a kid that it's cool that these dudes are, you know, a pedophile or rapist or whatever just because, you know, 20 years has gone by? you think that they can still be a lieutenant at the sheriff's office. Not to mention the shit they're doing now, no, man. It could be 300 years and it's still not cool. The Rodney King, you know, the Rodney King videotape. Yeah.

I remember everybody, people used to say, yeah, well, that's the exception. I was like, it is the exception that it was videotaped. It's not that it doesn't happen all the time. The exception part is somebody was there with a video camera. Well, and, you know, that's why I started my, my other my buddy and I started our other our podcast separate from my main channel to give the public like a real inside honest look into what law enforcement is because him and I don't give a shit like we're not we have nothing to hide our records are exemplary especially mine and um cops don't

talk about that stuff and what I found out doing this and discussing some of these things is that I've gotten a lot of information over the years especially since I started doing my YouTube channel from guys that are retired that some moved to Florida because that's like the spot to go as a retired cop or Idaho they would call me and say hey I don't like I don't like I like what you're doing Trent I don't like these guys that you're talking about this is what I know from during this time this is where you can go look in in addition to that don't you ever fucking say my name to anybody they don't talk about it because in that culture um and this is like the the the prison gang culture too it's like you know you don't there's no no snitch right no snitch mentality which we know is fucking bullshit i'll get to that later that's you all i was talking about what you said right um but it's the same thing in the cop world you don't snitch on another fucking

cop it doesn't matter if it is your mortal enemy and you hate that motherfucker um you don't say anything it's very taboo and it's ingrained into a lot of these guys especially the the older generation that i worked it didn't matter just having conversations with the man it didn't matter how much they hated somebody at the administrative level they will never they would rather die pretty much than discuss it like officially you know with the feds or anybody it's you just you don't do it and i had a lot of people when i started my channel that tell me i was going to get killed you know by these dudes like you better watch your back train i'm like what the fuck of these guys are going to do you know um but that that's where that's how bad that is though like there you know people compare

law enforcement to like the biggest gang right in the country that don't get me wrong like I said I have sometimes people get this twisted I'm not a cop hater I was a cop I have a lot of close friends that are still in law enforcement I'm anti fucking bullshit corruption hypocrisy right so if you're going to do the job do it the right way and I would say the majority are good cops the majority are but the ones that I worked with um that supervised us no they were not and i got a lot of people that can vouch for that too so kind of got segued here so uh i i i was working out in that area living by myself on the res in the cart and the cartel land pretty much um a lot of good honest people out there though that people i'm still friends with to this day

but uh i i don't even have like the words for that place man that shit was fucked up like it was it was every street fat fucking grows they're all illegal some of them are trust past grows. Like I said, it's like a lot of a reservation stuff. So and unfortunately, you have the statistics there, right, with the poverty, low socioeconomic culture, alcoholism, drug addiction. And there's no opportunities out there. Like I said, it's a very small rural town that is isolated a shit with a horrible history, not just from the 1800s where the Native Americans got marched in there forcefully. And there was massive like genocide and shit that went on that town um but prior resident deputies before me like yeah i mean people could just google

mendicino county covalo and it's just inundated with articles and crazy shit that you know you had a deputy out there that got that got shot and killed um you had these other ones other ones that have gotten fired for for hit hook banging girls on on duty while their wives were at home picking them up the local bar there in their patrol cars taking them out into the woods hooking up with them and shit um the the one that's most notable is uh the another lieutenant that worked at the sheriff's office when you said they get promoted right so this dude and this was back like in oh two to oh seven right when trent was in high school or middle school whatever so um he lived out in this town this small town of cobalo he was a sergeant um and his name

Shannon Barney and he had three resident deputies that lived there with him that he were underneath him and back then what these guys would do is not that this is illegal at all and this is kind of a matter of preference I guess but they would all you know meet up and have a swinger parties right and orgies and shit like that they would all bang each other's wives and vice you know whatever swap around and stuff sometimes on duty though so that's a policy violation um and when i worked there too i had a shitlet of people in town tell me this also that they hadn't grew up there and were around for these guys that these dudes were not you know a couple of them were extorting the weed growers out there like harvest time you know around October they

would say and this is back when it was a you could go to prison even in california back then for this so um illegally growing um you know do you want to give us 10 grand and or do you want us to fucking come back and hit your spot in there and arrest you right and they would do that very often along with the the swinger stuff um getting drunk on duty and um two of these dudes actually killed themselves under suspicious circumstances um one of them officers yeah yep yep yep one of them killed himself that's what i'm saying this town that i lived and worked in it has like the darkest worst fucking history out of like anywhere just brought in terms of like the how small the population is dating back to the 1800s with the genocide for the native americans moving

forward with the cops um and so uh yeah so this one of the deputies killed himself at his house in covalow and this was when everything came crashing down on them because what it happened is a deputy i'm not going to name his name but he his wife was involved in this wife swap and shit and he didn't know about it. So he found out about it and he was getting passed up for opportunities to promote because of this shit

because he wouldn't participate in a lot of their other stuff that they were doing too. So they found out a way to fire his ass for no reason. He was a good ass fucking cop too. You don't want to play, then fuck you because the sergeant out there

was really close friends with the sheriff at the time who was also a corrupt piece of shit and the lieutenant that ran that sector. So they fired this guy he sued and he won his job back and they proved all of the allegations but what had happened and this is all public records well that these incidents are but the judge nadel she sealed

all the court all the court documents and he's that that guy had to sign a non-disclosure agreement he is never allowed to talk about it and the reasoning for this she said is because it's in the best interest of the community and everybody as a whole that we don't let this information out. No, no, what that means, what that equates to is you don't want the public to know about all the things that this guy, like, came forward about these dudes, the crimes they were committing and how you guys are going to let them keep their jobs and get away with it is what that is. So when this was all going on, though, yeah, one dude killed himself in 2007, the first guy is Tom and Kobolo.

And when I worked there, right, everybody would be like, hey, Trent, did you hear about Brett White? And I said, yeah, I know the stories. He killed himself at his house. No, he didn't. His boss, Shannon Barney shot his ass. And I'm like, well, you know, it's like one of those things. It's like a rumor that's, but everybody fucking said the same shit. And come to find, but, you know, it's like, come to find out, I looked back in some of these old articles that went on during that time. and a prior sheriff so that corrupt sheriff he quit halfway through his term

the lieutenant sorry the captain at the time took over his name was Kevin Broin and Kevin did not like what the fuck was going on out there he was actually a really good solid honest dude and he tried to fire that sergeant that was heading up the wife swapping

and the extortion and all that shit right but in the midst of all that Brett White, the deputy, shot and killed himself. But in the articles, it says, you know, he's like, I, at the sheriff's office is not automatically ruling this as suicide. We have to do further investigation. And that's very weird because my job as a deputy because we were so small, we did everything. Like a lot of agencies that are bigger have like their own corners division, domestic violence

unit, property crimes unit, no, no, you can get like five years experience like, in one year where I worked because you do everything. So all the corners cases, I do them for everybody on the street from start to finish. And I've been to a shitlet of suicides and everything you could think of, including gunshot wounds to the head, which is how this guy died. I can't think of a time where, you know, so when you get there, you're going to look for like signs of foul play, right? But it's pretty obvious, you know, for the most part, gun in the hand or or down.

next to where it would be like you're going to look at the fall of that weapon does that make sense for his body position how heavy the gun is the trajectory of the wherever he put it on his head where the whole the exit wound is going to be the trajectory of the bullet you know what I'm saying right so there's a lot of things that you look at when you go there to do the initial investigation as well some other stuff but you can very easily determine like pretty fucking quick if you're going to need a call a detective out to take over a potential homicide investigation okay so the fact that that back then the sheriff was like we can't rule this as a suicide right now fucking red flag number one and then the lieutenant at the time that was covering for him this is like back in like 2010 at this point um goes on in this article too and he's like yeah we're well we're aware of the rumors we've gotten the emails and the phone calls because everybody in that community not everybody but a shitload of people were calling in saying hey we know that guy did not kill himself this is what we know blah blah blah um long story short that sergeant that was involved in all of that shit just got taken out of covalo and later promoted to lieutenant

that sheriff that was trying to fire him and go against the good old boys club and the grain he lost an election to that lieutenant that was supervising that whole fucked off thing up there and shortly after that he got ram the fuck out of there that that that guy that did that lost the election he went back to being a captain and he ended up retiring early and an article he's like i just can't do it anymore i don't see i these guys i want a part of it so right because that's what happens like when you try to do the right thing at a lot of these agencies and i've heard this from a lot of people that work in other counties and states too um they'll fuck your ass up you're not going to have a job sometimes they'll put a case on you too this is not conspiracy

theory shit like this is like this stuff actually fucking happens man um and for whatever reason like some people in the public have a hard time believing it it's like it's fucking wild to me um What I will say is that all the dudes that I worked with on patrol, solid motherfuckers. It's when you get to, most of the sergeants were cool to, even though one of them right now is off on leave because a 19-year-old girl said that he raped her, which is fucking top secret classified, but I found out. And that's still in process. But it's like the guy's up. And those are the ones that you want to fit your agenda. if you're a sheriff under sheriff captain chief whatever your agency is you want guys that are

going to fit your what you got going on what you're about right you can trust to keep your fucking secrets right so if i was a piece of shit as a sheriff right and i was a criminal and i was doing a bunch of what i want a bunch of goody-to-shoe boy scout dudes as my lieutenants fuck no man i want the felons i want the guy that was fired from that agency fired from that agency and this one used to sell meth and be a gang member, I want these fucking guys. Right. Right?

Because they're not going to roll on anything you're doing. So it's just common sense. That's how it works. So anyway, so I keep getting sidetracked here. But so I was out there. And it was a, it was, it was, it took a toll. It took a toll on me, dude.

Like the, the, the, the fuck. Like, I don't even have the words for it. It's hard to explain if you, like to get somebody to understand if they didn't do it. but um going living in an isolated place like that because it was the national forest okay like it's round valley is literally round surrounded by fucking mountains okay and again the nearest town is like an hour away and very rarely that i see anybody nobody even checked on me every once in a while like one of my sergeants would come out for something but i was like

left to my own devices which is wild because of all the prior issues that cops have had out there being fired fucking shooting themselves getting killed um but the sheriff at the time not this most recent one but the one prior um he he did he allowed me to do it he's like i'll let you do it i know you've been fucking working out there non-stop for years already you know everybody you're good at it i trust you so that's how that came to came to be but it was really it was really a crazy place bro because like you know i get it's seven days a week and you have to community police the fuck out of that of a place like that because if you don't get trust and rapport with a small community especially on the reservation they do not like cops understandably so

um especially white cops like one of my house brand new out there what the fuck are you doing on the res white boy straight up big giant motherfuckers that are have more tattoos than i do you know were you add it up at the time i had i had i had sleeve um and oddly enough i actually got my neck in my hands when i was living out there i was like now i fit in you know but um i got i got more i've always had a lot of tattoos even when i started um which the older older cops were not fucking happy about but and it's one of those places too and you know this because you were you were locked up right so like but out there it's a lot of they'll they'll test you right so they're going to say like let's test this fucking new rookie

cop we could tell they could tell you a rookie in two seconds the experience guys right right and if you're gonna fucking like you have you know three prison dudes standing there in the fucking yard and you're there to investigate some stupid fucking call that doesn't even mean anything they're going to see what you do because if you waver at all in your command presence they see some fear in your fucking eyes you're fucked right so it's one of those places and this is hard to explain to people too where you have to talk a certain way that's why i cusses lot too. It's a bad habit. I still carry with me. You have to talk a certain way. This is no, sir, can you please show me your hands? It's not that, it's not that place.

You're, you're in for, I would not be sitting here today if that was my, my approach. Okay. You treat everybody with respect. Absolutely. But when you get tested like that, you have to handle it very different. And some of my biggest informants and snitches, this is how I was also very successful out there. I won deputy. of the year in 2018 there as well for what what i did in that place um are prison dudes the biggest baddest motherfuckers you can think of that run that town and also are shot callers in prison and outside of it were some of my biggest snitches right the ones preaching don't fucking snitch will kill your ass are texting james hey i know you're looking for so-and-so he's

over here right now you know and it's just a fact of life dude and you get these youngsters there that are their sons, their nephews, they're like little kids. They were like, hey, fuck you, cop. Like, I'm not telling you shit, even though I became close with a lot of kids there too. I'm not snitching because that's the culture that gets emulated there. Yeah, that's what's propagated. That's what everybody said. That's the popular thing to say.

Yep, but it's not true. And you said it in one of your videos. It's not reality. It's like, and what you said too really stuck with me too. You're like, if this was reversed roles and somebody else was in my position and they had a chance to snitch on me they would be the first one to do it 100% that is fucking true i would tell guys that too i'd like dude i don't know what you think you're doing your homie over there he already snitched your ass out now sometimes that's a a tactic that cops

will use to get somebody to provide information right but the hard dude they know better than that i didn't play games with those guys i would straight just tell them facts i don't play interrogation interview uh tactics or anything like that so um sorry this dude's making noise behind me but that's right so uh but it was real they would they would like trent don't take me to jail what do you want to know okay what the fuck is where's so-and-so hiding is aka 47 stash oh it's a fuck you know immediate right immediate so uh but it was an interesting place but i came really cool with those guys man you know they they went to jail when when it was time to go but i didn't fuck with them over stupid shit you know so you got a dude that's uh you know uh nor tanio guy or

Indian pride dude fresh out of prison on parole out there in the middle of nowhere and I live there in the middle of town. Everybody knows where I live. Am I going to take that guy to jail and violate his parole for driving with no driver's license? No, fuck no, I'm not. Absolutely not. So you have to police it different than everywhere else. But, you know, when it was like the shit that I had to take care of, quality of life issues, because that same guy is doing fucking drive-bys or or breaking into homes and shit like that. Yeah, they knew it was time. They knew it was time.

You know, it's funny. It makes me, like, the more serious, the more serious the place is, the more laxed you have to be to survive. And it's funny because I had an SIS lieutenant in federal prison tell me, tell me this. So I was in the medium for like three years. When I went to the low, you know, you have to have, as you come into intake, you know, you talk to medical, you talk to psych, you talk to, you know, all these different departments. Well, when I got to SIS, he, I remember he walked in, he said, listen, you're not going to have any problems here. He said, let me, let me, he said, I'll simplify it for you. He is in the pen.

We're trying to keep the inmates from stabbing us. Yeah. In the medium, we're trying to keep them from stabbing each other. He said, at the low, we're trying to keep them following the rule. he said it's that simple he said you're a rule follower you're going to be fine and he left but that's the truth because at the pen they're they're super respectful to the inmates because they're extremely dangerous at the medium they're a little bit less respectable but still pretty respectful at the low the cops are maniacs because they're talking to a bunch of guys that are

rule followers who don't want to go anywhere so you know you can at a lower if you're in if you're in suburbia you can pull anybody over for anything at all because none of them are going to give you a problem yes sir no sir absolutely i can't believe that you couldn't see my my tag of course i deserve a ticket for that i don't know what i was thinking but if you're you're in a gang high gang area you see four gang bangers in a car that you can barely see their tag it's like you don't i'm going to let them go yeah i could go so wrong or you call them up you pull them over real quick hey bro make check your tag bro you can't have that that filter thing over the tag okay no problem i don't need to see your license you guys are good that buys a lot of respect it it does you're

100 percent correct you already know you're right on that but yes that is exactly how that plays so you know i'm thinking like hey trend you're you're in a uh and these dudes too like they they would they follow prison rules still when they get out right because they're so that becomes they get institutionalized they've been in and out their whole lives and shit um and violent violent dude the violence holy fuck i've never seen i've never seen anything like it and i doubt that i ever will again that goes on out there but you know i'm thinking like hey a cop's been smoked out here before prior resident deputies you know you know they had their house shot at everybody knows where i live yeah i'm not gonna be jack in arizona there's cartel members having shootouts

with the cops yeah you know on you in the in the u s yeah like you in florida you would if you told someone that they'd be like yeah that that's not possible no there's cartel in Texas and in Arizona in Texas having shootouts with the police. They're like that. I don't believe that. Because just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not happening.

Just because it's not happening here. Well, and that's my whole point, dude, just because people don't experience it or haven't seen it themselves. Like that I know that shit happens. But for me, yeah, dude, like it's in that town, let me just put it in perspective. When I lived out there,

there was basically no fucking internet. There's no streetlights. There's no stoplights. There's no fucking cameras. People can't film shit out there because, yeah, if they want to go like maybe upload it somewhere else later, it's dark at nighttime. And I don't mean like when I say like you can't see shit, there's no lights of any kind. Like you said, your backup's an hour away. Yes. Nobody's coming to help you. No one's coming to help me do. So like, you know, at nighttime, this is one of my fondest fucking memories of living out there. And this is no joke, dude. This is not, I'm not saying, hey this shit this sounds cool by the way this is the fact anybody that did that job too like

knows what i know can vouch for this shit i'd go out of my backyard at nighttime chill and drink some tea and um you hear fully automatic fucking gunfire like from my neighbors behind me just do do do do do do do because these dudes cartel guys they shoot rounds from their fucking grows one because yeah they get drunk and fuck around but two it's a warning to anybody in the area Do not come over here and try to jack our shit. Otherwise, you're going to get fucking smoked because that was happening a lot back then, too. People would, uh, uh, my other next door neighbor, I just look out in my kitchen window, huge fucking growth, huge. And he got hit a couple times when I'm sleeping fucking, you know, a hundred feet away or whatever it was by these dudes.

But it was a lot like that, man. I'd just be out at nighttime and you just hear the fucking just gunfire, dude. I heard of actual gunfight one time across the street from where I lived. you'd hear boom boom boom boom boom and i'm like yeah whatever and then two seconds later opposing side boom boom boom boom boom these motherfuckers are shooting each other and it was that one was natives and and uh cartel dudes and it was always beefing over fucking land um because a lot of the cartel guys too they wouldn't even get permission they would just grow on the rest some plot of land somewhere not fucking smart but the thing with those cartel guys too is why they will shoot at cops

or whatever. No one knows who they are. These fools don't have social security numbers and dates of births, man, that are documented, right? So out there, they, you know, creep into my house, which was an old 1960s piece of shit with no insulation, no alarm or anything, and froze my ass off in the winter, come in fucking kill my ass,

and they'd be back down in Mexico while they're still processing my stupid body, dude. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's fucking, it's just common sense. and the native community a lot of good good uh honest people there too people that i'm friends with as well um i do agree that it gets a stigma um a bad perception that people have associated with it because of you know it's just like anything else but it is true that it a lot of crazy shit went on there but those dudes a lot of them they don't give a fuck they're they're 16 year old Trent at 40 years old right they don't give a shit about anything and that was very obvious when

they were doing the things that they were doing but it um yeah I mean like like years of of you know getting called out because you know hey Trent so-and-so just got shot in the head over on the res you know you got to go deal with that we're sending another unit your way he'll be there in an hour and I show up and there's 40 fucking people of this thing and a dude he's still living is there's the fucking one of the paramedic dudes that lived in town is trying to advantage this fucking fool's head up as they're calling in a helicopter at people fucking everywhere the suspect is still outstanding and um you just have to figure it out you know what I'm saying no one's coming to to save your ass um all the pursuits I got in over a hundred you know

it's like you're you're they're always over in a matter of 10 15 minutes no one's coming to to help you with that you just have to hope that it works out for you or or everything else that I did too so it was years of it you know that's just like that's a whole thing by itself but But years of that, the adrenaline dumps left and right and being, you know, paranoid and always in life and death situations, also dealing with resident deputy duties, going to the schools every day, which I did, try to talk to these kids that wanted to go to prison because they thought it was cool. Graduation rate extremely low out there. No role models to look up to. And I saw that. I was able to identify with these kids a lot.

Two, three of them actually, when they ended up graduating, thanked me personally for what for helping them. And that meant a lot to me. It's like, dude, even if that's only one kid, like I'll, you know, I'll fucking take it. Going to the businesses, dealing with, you know, a lot of those civil things that a lot of cops wouldn't even bother with. So you wear a lot of hats, going to homes to talk to kids that don't want to go to schools, that really a cop function, not necessarily. But, you know, so you do a lot of things. I loved it, though. I loved it.

And I volunteered for it. but years of that coupled with the the running around in the woods um you know uh dealing with hardcore shit and and and seeing you know shit that i'll never forget um it wore on me so i can't i finally hit up the sheriff and i was like dude i want to come out of this place but at the time um one of these lieutenants the the pedophile one like he and everyone fucking hated this guy dude he was a piece of shit um he actually they tried to fire him during his training phase when he was super brand new at this agency. I'm talking like early 2000s, I think.

His trainers try to fire him. They're like, dude, he is unsafe. He's cocky as fuck. He doesn't know what he's doing and just a bunch of shit going on. But he had a friend that was friends with the lieutenant that ran the training program. Like, no, we're passing him. Like, cool, thanks guys. So we're so close not having to deal with this guy.

So anyway, but that's how that works. It's all about who you know, especially in the good. boys club you know so um he took over up in my my area and he was a tyrant he was lying on guys evals because he didn't like them which got proved uh the captain found out but he just said please knock it off um he was taking credit for the shit that i was doing in that town he was lying to the captain about stuff that me and my partners were doing or saying um and he was just he was just a piece of shit and i couldn't take orders from this guy because i was like dude you you got fired back in the day for fucking a teenage chick dude and also this other

stuff i know about you like you're you're fucking garbage and at the time he was making it harder for us to do our job especially me in cobalow because he thought that he knew what was best and i'm like dude i worked out there for years and lived out there bro and like work the res you you you've been out there like twice your whole fucking life what are you talking about you just because you have bars doesn't mean you know you're talking and that's the problem too same with the military and cop shops cop world these dudes get these these these these these levels of authority and they're like, I know what's best. You very rarely do you know what's best.

It's a guy that you're subordinate. It's funny. And the BOP, because they have like a union, they can't fire people. So the more of a problem you are to get rid of you, they give you, they give you a promotion. Yeah. So you end up getting promoted from a CEO to, you know, you go from like a CEO. You're a problem as a CEO. Okay, make him a counselor.

Okay, he's a problem as a counselor. make him a unit manager. Okay, he's a problem as a unit manager. Make him a supervisor. Okay, he's a problem. I mean, just to get him out of the prison. Yeah. And, you know, I mean, I've seen that happen over and over again where they had, I, in the other, you know, when all the other officers hate your guts. Yeah. And the inmates hate your guts. And they cannot fire you. And even the other officers will say, well, eventually a supervisor position will come available. And they'll force them to take the supervisor position and they'll ship them across the country and there'll be somebody else's problem for another three or four years and then they'll ship them somewhere else it's like are you

serious they're like well they just can't fire them well i think about the poor bastards that are going to be underneath that person because they they like at my agency too they promote you you this was a common saying too you fuck up you move up yeah everybody said that and you're right but like so for my department it kept so california is not an at will state unless you're uh uh you know a chief or a or an undersheriff or whatever but um for us dude it took a lot you got to put a fat case on somebody to fucking fire you but for me i didn't have i was never in an i a whole career no eternal affairs investigations i had a couple stupid little shitty write-ups for like i don't even remember what they were for but i had like exceed standards on multiple years of my

yearly evaluations i got deputy the year like i said so that they i was doing my job they had nothing on me so i wasn't worried about anything and that's why i was so vocal and so anyway So me and my partners are all complaining. Even the sergeants there were fucking bitching about this lieutenant. Dude, he just, he belonged in prison still from, or having to register as a sex offender from his shit back in the day. But it got so bad that I actually asked for a meeting with the captain at the time. And who was a reasonable person, you know, talked to him for an hour and a half. And he agreed with me.

He said, I agree with you, Trent. And I, but I didn't know it was this much of an issue. I do know that lieutenant, Andrew Porter. I know his history. I know that he is not liked by fucking anybody. And, you know, he had stated during his promotion interview with the old sheriff, you know, the sheriff was like, hey, Andy, like, nobody likes you because he had been a sergeant in the detective unit. How am I supposed to promote you? And he's like, sheriff, it's not my duty to get people to like me.

It's my job to, you know, get a promotion. He wanted to be a lieutenant more than anything else on earth. and come to find out the stereotype with this guy is true he got his ass whooped in high school and he became a cop for the wrong reasons i became a cop to help people they couldn't help themselves as cliche and corny as that sounds and to have fun right something do every day and i devoted my life um and a lot of my mental health that i'll never get back to the area that i chose to be a one-man show in right um but i had to have to conversation with him and he's like I had to promote him he did the best on the test

the other two sergeants that you want to be your lieutenant that are way better leaders and everybody agrees yeah they didn't do the best on the test so we got to give it to this this criminal um and i was like you know what and it kept getting worse so i just said i said fuck it dude i'm out i can't keep working here bro so i gave a month and a half notice month and a half notice um they let me take my dog with me even though they the county owned him But because at the time, my guy that's no longer my friend, he had been fired from my department a few years prior for time fraud for two hours. He was at a training.

He went home, chilled, and then didn't clock out. And they fired him for it because he was kind of like me, loud mouth, goes against the grain, hated the fucking administration. They hated him. So he became a lieutenant at a local police department in my area. And he's like, Trent, come over here. You can be a sergeant. I had met with their chief already at that point.

And he's like, get out of that shitty fucking agency, man. It's just going to get worse. And so I was like, oh, cool. And at this point, dude, like, we had a lot of other people that were transferring out and quitting and shit during that time. And in my mind, I had already done everything that I needed to do. I had, like, multiple lifetimes worth of experiences at that point. And the agency I was going to go to at the PD was like Disneyland,

compared to where I had worked before. It was just night and day. No, no, you know, brutal fucking, you know, stabbing, homicides. You know, when I was out there, I had a dude gets shocked in the fucking head, broad daylight behind my house. Like that and, you know, body dumps on the side of the road. They would just chuck this one kid, 19 years old. They just chucked his ass out on the side of the road after they riddled him with bullets

right on the main roadway in town there at like 10 o'clock in the morning. cartel shit right to prove a fucking point right it was it was uh it was it's it's it's the things that go on out there man it it it's fucking crazy and you know people you know uh found in trunks and shit like that buried um one of my first homicides i ever went to out there dude was fucking a weed shit of course how he got found is his dog dug up his fucking hand in his front yard you know what i'm saying and then somebody called that in like hey i think there's a fucking body over here yeah because his partners grow grow grow dudes fucking smoke murder his ass you know it it it's a it's a fucking gnarly place man and it's like they had that netflix

episode murder mountain um that's from humble you've seen it but it's humble county which is the neighboring bordering county to mendicino county where i worked it was hilarious to me i watched at the time i lived in cobala i'm like dude they completely it's an interesting story don't get me wrong and it's pretty egregious but i was like that is not they need to come do some shit about this place man it's it's fucking like 20 times worse um because like for us around around harvest right you would get the trimigrants that would come in that's what we called them so people from peru brazil portugal new york they would come in and trim and back then you could make a shitload of fucking money trim and wheat you know 300 bucks a pound fucking whatever

And, but the problem was a lot of these people were never getting heard from again. Their family was calling us saying, hey, our son went to work. Our 25 year old son or daughter said they were going to work on a farm of some kind. And your county, we're from Philadelphia. We haven't heard from them in six months. And that's it. Because when it comes time to pay, depending on who you go and trim for, what's easier, right? So, and it's the national forest.

It's like the guys that dig the whole the tunnels for the cartel in Mexico. You know, they keep them there in a warehouse, have them dig the tunnels. And three months after the tunnels, three months of working, you're promised a whole bunch of money. Then when the tunnel's done, they bring you back. They have you dig a big trench and they take you out and execute you in the desert and they bury you. And you're just some poor kid from some town 100 miles away from where the tunnel is. your family hasn't seen you in three months. Nobody knows where you are.

Like, why would I pay you the $30,000 or $50,000? I promised you when I could just execute you. I mean, we're already, you know what I'm saying? We're already in the middle of nowhere. We're already the cartel. Like, these are all, these guys are mostly murderers anyway. You're just some peasant from the middle of nowhere. Nobody's going to miss you, but your family, there's, you know, they don't know where

you're at. Yeah, well, and to prove that point, too, that, you know, mom's calling, hey, you know, my son went to somewhere called covello yeah what are you going to do right right it's like they already know but these dudes would know because out there like i said to the rural aspect this isn't like a a populated area like i said there's no again lights no cameras no nothing you kill people a lot of unsolved homicides out there one of them was the most notable one i was involved in in 2018 it's still unsolved to this day we know who the suspect is he's still fucking living there but that's how easy it is to kill somebody out there and completely get away with it even if you're

fucking sloppy as fuck and you know that wasn't everybody out there that obviously went out and then they never got heard from again but it was a every fucking every harvest every harvest man like for just every year it was it was like that so but we were told you know i got told by my sergeant dude go around town when you see all these people coming in with accents from france and all the all over the world bro they would come to this little town in fucking mendicino county year every fucking harvest dude it was wild and hundreds of them and but they wanted us to go around and warn them say hey you need to get the fuck out of here you're you're there's a high likelihood you're never going to get hurt from again or the girls some sexual shit that you don't want

to happen to you there that because that happened too a lot and it was horrible fucking horrible um and yeah so uh but yeah it was it was just you know for me it's too much man you know and i got really close with a lot of people out there because I'd worked there so long and you know a lot of them started dying for various reasons not in good ways either um and coupled with you know everything else like I said so anyway so I gave a month and a half notice and went to the PD as a sergeant um and uh it was more bullshit there my lieutenant at the time he apparently I didn't know this guy at all I had been friends with him for like some years and he had turned into a tyrant power trip in. I had knew some stuff about his history, but not all of it. And all my subordinates

fucking hated him. This is a very small department at the new one. We had like 11 people total. And he was running the chief there because the chief was soft. He was from like LA, but he was old. And a lot of those older chiefs will come up to Mendocino County or smaller cities to finish their fucking retirement at the chief pay, whatever. So he was just doing a bunch of shit and making our lives fucking miserable too lying wanted me to write my dudes up for bullshit wanted us to go and force our quotas okay so yeah quotas fucking exist man i'm so sick of people hearing that dude or cops lying to people they fucking exist when you don't give somebody a ticket and your supervisor bids you out for it because you're not you're not uh performing like you should you're expected to

especially to your peers that's called a quota you don't use the term quota but those things exist I worked for a department. The city generates revenue from some of those tickets. And if you're a highway guy, the state does, right? If you're issuing like, you know, registration and shit like that. So I didn't believe in it. I had been a deputy. I was dealing with people getting their fucking, you know, heads chopped off and shit.

And I'm like, I lit on fire while they're still alive. I'm like, I'm not going to go force people to write window tent tickets, bro. I was like, I got 10 on my car. I'm not going to go force people to get jammed up for shit that I also have. I have no front plate. no and my subordinates would be like hey shran are you going to get in trouble i said i don't really care man because my lieutenant at the time and this was a small town too man it was 4 000 people and it was again like disneyland different pop type of um not not not the crazy crime

shit stuff did happen there for sure but i'm like bro we have to community police this place man it is very small this is not the bay area okay or la or fucking miami right it's it's very small so if we start pissing people off and jamming them up for little bullshit shit. I said we are not going to get any cooperation when we're trying to solve crimes. We're going to like create an even bigger divide, which is already hugely prevalent because this is like George Floyd was around this time and you know, COVID and all that shit too. So like there was a lot of shit in the media hating cops. I said, this is the last thing we need to be doing right now. But you know, what I was going to mention to you is, you know, the, what I don't think

people really understand is that, you know, by by giving tickets, like that generates income for the, you know, the city, the police department. And, you know, so, you know, in a lot of ways, like they want you to give it. Of course, you know, they want you to give tickets. Why? It would generate money. It puts money in our coffers. And it's not that they're making it up. It's like just enforce these policies as best you can or, you know, you know, on an extreme level, on a very liberal level. But I was going to say, um, my sister was kind of like, on a sub-council in Temple Terrace. Temple Terrace is a little town outside of Tampa.

And I remember they had gone to the city council and said, look, you've got these no U-turn signs that literally go for about two miles. Like you can't turn around in Temple Terrace on this little street. Like it's dangerous to try and turn around there and I get the U-turn signs, but it's just such a pain in the ass and it's always been an issue.

So she goes there and says, look, why don't we get rid of these signs? at least between here and here and one of the city you know one of the city council members said okay i understand which which police officer do you want to let go and they were like she's like what do you mean he said those signs generate 80 thousand dollars a year for our police department or for for our city so we would have to let at least one officer go to generate the money to to you know because we're going to lose $80,000 out of our budget. That's a police officer.

And she was like, like, wow, I had no, I didn't realize that. It's the same thing with those cameras on the, you know, the street cameras. My brother-in-law fought Temple Terrace and made them get rid of them. They were jet, those cameras were generating like a million dollars, half a million dollars a year. They were furious about it. So, you know, so sometimes it's like, you know, they're trying to enforce. It's not that they're necessarily being, you know, total jerks about it. But like that does generate money.

So of course there's quotas. Yeah. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Like there are quotas like just to think even if you're like you said, they're not, they're not specified. Like you have to give it. But they, they want that money coming in. It's a quota. I don't care what anybody says.

And that drove me nuts when I would hear cops say that. Even when I was growing up, quotas don't exist young man. Really. okay then why do you guys got what we want you to write the tickets yeah so why do you guys have white boards in your in your briefing room with tally marks under who has the most speeding tickets tent tickets etc you're keeping tabs why is the city manager coming into my department when i worked there to bitch out the chief who would bitch out my lieutenant who would bitch me out this is how this conversation started because we're not writing enough tickets for the city

yeah they want out money now now tickets have their place i'm not stating that they don't they're They're there for a reason, but also discretion is there for a reason. Like, for example, where I'm at right now, so this other day, I had a guy, an officer, works for KT police department here in Texas. Dude should never be a cop. He's a fucking sack of shit. So he pulls me over. So 30 mile an hour zone, broad daylight, 9.30 in the morning on a Tuesday in a business park.

There's a mall, there's a hotel, there's businesses and shit. So before I even get on the roadway from this parking lot, 600 feet away, I have his body cam that's how i know this he did 60 miles an hour in a 30 on his motorcycle blow blew by two cars to pull me over for tent endangering the lives of every that's reckless driving right so um i was very polite i rolled down all my windows had my hand on the steering wheel and he was a fucking asshole most of the motor guys are when you choose to do a job like that now it does have its place um you've made a decision on what type of cop you are so this dude's 56 years old never been promoted scratching shitty tickets still okay lecturing me he's like was you don't know the

law like you know and i'm like not i do i used to be a cop you know i'm a p i also use this vehicle for surveillance and stuff too not you know he's like that doesn't make it okay i'm like i know it doesn't you ask me why i have it long story short i filed a complaint against him for endangering the public doing double the speed limit to get me for a very shitty little equipment violation i would have actually been fired or heavily reprimanded if i did that at either of my other agencies and as a sergeant prior sergeant if one of my guys have done that they're fucked they're off the street dude for a while right um i had pursuits canceled for less than that dude i chased this guy that shot his fucking brother with a shotgun out in covalo and i chased his ass at nighttime

which is very rural and me and my sergeant and my other buddy you know we fucking i might have you know i ended up colliding with this guy's fucking vehicle um on the dirt and my brakes locked up We got in trouble for chasing a tempted fucking murder suspect. But out here, I talked to their captain to Witech, wild tech, whatever. He was like, no, he's good all day. It's justified. And I'm like, what the fuck is justified? And, you know, but out here in Texas, they can actually do.

And this motorcycle cop told me too. I said, what happens if I don't take care of the tent? I can take you to jail. They actually can in the state of Texas and do arrest people for window tent, rolling a stop sign no seat belt if you're if you're not playing there not winning the attitude test yeah they will so and he told me that too have it on body cam but anyway so to go to that um it didn't meet my uh that department didn't his supervising style didn't meet what i had come to know and you you have to develop relationships with people i was an expert at this point in community

policing community relations uh because again i was always at the schools the middle school uh high school businesses i visited every fucking day everybody in that town cobalo had my cell phone number even dudes i arrested obviously they were snitching for me right so um i would get calls out there bro like hey trant i heard you were looking for me um i know i have a warrant where do i'm going to meet you like that's just the type of relationship and respect but that took years to build man years right years to fucking build that shit they also have to trust you too that you're not going to snitch them out when they're fucking snitching right so that's a whole there's a whole dynamic to that whole thing i just oversimplified the fuck out of it it was a lot of work and a lot of guys

can do it i'm not special by any fucking means but um so he was he was doing shit and and um yeah long story short uh i was so fucking miserable there and i was so burnt um that i decided to i also at this point in time had a huge uh break in my mind um and what they don't talk you know PTSD right so like it it's very frowned upon to talk about in cop world just like it is to snitch on other cops when you're a cop but it's very taboo you do not fucking you don't talk about it you don't get help otherwise you're a pussy some of my friends that were in justified at shoot kill people and stuff all justified they they got all fucked up and my lieutenants one of them was Andrew Porter was calling one of my best friends a pussy to in front of me and other guys he's

fucking being a bitch he actually texted that guy when he was off of work on health stress stress leave for multiple shootings and crazy shit he got into and he had worked with me some in cobelow um and said hey i need you to come back like we're short staffed i don't want this toxicity to spread and people think they could just go out on leave legit text message of that shit bro like have it so i but so it's very taboo and you're not supposed to do it you're less than a man according to a lot of these guys um but these are the dudes that would go home and get drunk blacked out drunk seven nights a week they would hit their wives who would not report it officially a couple tried to um that's how

they medicate right uh or drugs one of my buddies that is around my age he overdosed on heroin in uh the sheriff's office when i worked there when i was living in coblow um in his home in his bathroom because he was doing fucking heroin that's how he medicated they wouldn't let him get time off of work he begged for it because he was he he saw some a lot of shit too and and they said nope tough shit dude we're short staff so he decided to do what he did and anyway so i i saw one thing you know like uh at the police department that did it wasn't even a big deal man like somebody fucking um like died in my hands which i've had happened before it wasn't a big deal at all and i'd seen so many uh dead people at that point in like the craziest ways you can think of

it was very just normal for me but for whatever reason it tipped it tipped the ship and i uh all this shit fucking hit me at once it's like a cumulative whatever they talk about so i went to my lieutenant i'm like bro i'm all fucked up dude i got i got i got i got i got to i got to go like i got to take some time off the street and he told me in his office he's like well this is he's like what the fuck he's like you're going to fuck your career bro you're going to go out on the mental health thing right now and and i said i just need some fucking time what the fuck and he was my friend And this is why we talked like this. So he's like, do you understand what you're doing right now?

Like you're going to go, you're potentially ruining your fucking entire career. And I was like, I don't really give a fuck anymore, bro. And I didn't. I was so miserable. And like, so I went out on stress leave with behind my back. He was telling my subordinates that I was a pussy. And I had the human, human resources lady calling me saying,

Trent, I need a doctor's note stating you can feed and water your dog. Because at this point, the city had bought him. otherwise we're going to come take him. So I had made a decision at that point that I was going to stop being a cop altogether. And I had listed my house for sale. I was dating a girl in Orlando at the time. So I was going to move to Florida and just do something else with my life. I was like, I have experience.

I have a degree. Fuck this shit. This whole county is fucked up and corrupt. And so he, I go back to work. I had reapplied at the sheriff's office again because my plan was to go work there until my house sold just because it was so bad at the police department. so fucking much worse.

I was going to go out into the woods and cobalow again, chill there away from everybody. The administration for hopefully no more than like a month. And I thought the hiring thing was going to be quick. So I put in an app. They scheduled me for an interview. My lieutenant found out about it. And he asked me about it.

I was like, I don't know. But at the time, I actually had pulled my app because I had made a firm decision that, like, dude, I'm just going to, never mind. I pulled my out from the sheriff's office. I didn't even get to do. I didn't do the interview. And I'm like, I'm out altogether. So long story short, he stopped talking to me for two fucking weeks because he still thought

I was going to go back to the sheriff's office and we worked a shift together. So he was telling my subordinate to come tell me, give me orders, which made my subordinate very uncomfortable. And I said, this won't last very long because I'm going to quit as soon as my fucking house sells, bro. And I'm going to Florida. So fuck all of you. But I got along really fucking well with.

with those guys and so uh but yeah at the end of the two weeks i got called into the chief's office and there's the chief my lieutenant and um karen the bitch from hell from human resources that was harassing me about my dog and um the chief was like trent you're not happy here i said nope and he said well you're still a probationary employee the probation period there's like 18 fucking months made it was a year and a half it was wild so um we don't have to give you a reason you're getting let go, but we're going to give you a memo of reasons why. Trent, I still have the shit, dude. It's like Trent failed to walk his canine downtown when he got asked to.

Trent completed an online certification, but failed to complete it in a timely manner. Like just little bullshit, bro. No policy violations, no law violations. I was like, great, fuck you, dude. Shortly after that, I started my confessions of an ex-cop YouTube channel and blasted everything I knew about these fucking guys. And, you know, it wasn't just to clarify, I never saw dudes. personally ripping people off unjustifiably beating the fuck out of people um doing crazy shit otherwise i would have reported it but it wasn't it's not that type of situation people like

why don't you report it it's like well first of all i did try i tried i had a long conversation with the captain who didn't give a fuck um he didn't care the sheriff too and uh they didn't care and what i can't go above that nobody gives a fuck um so then right after that that lieutenant that you was involved in my termination, got fired for sexually harassing, pretty hardcore. If female officer there, that was my subordinate, he also got another girl's phone number during an IA. He put his sergeant in. It was 25 years old. He is 50 and married with kids. Ended up fucking her, hooking up with her from the IA. So he's doing the IA. She's a witness to the IA. Yeah, get your number down, later go fuck her, right? And he...

What's an IA? eternal affairs investigation internal affairs of yeah so when you do so his sergeant had done something he wasn't supposed to this girl was a witness to it so he's the lieutenant is doing an investigation right um his name's derrick kendry the lieutenant he's all over fucking google too and so he gets her number and goes and hooks up with her he called me train with my wife ass i'm at your house right um then some of his informants came forward once he had been terminated so he got fired um and also right when they let me go like A dude quit like every people quit and it's where they transferred out that department like went to shit really quick and then he gets fired and then some of his old informants come forward and say hey he used to rate me on duty he would steal my fucking meth and heroin because his his um and looking back his prime informants were young impressionable girls I'm talking like early mid 20s bro right that are new to the new new users new users from meth and heroin right because they're

They get hooked up. That shit's fucking, I do. I've seen in Covalho some like really attractive women. They get hooked up with the wrong dude. And then you see the years progress. And then dude, they don't recognize them anymore.

They're missing their fucking hair. They have pop marks all over their face. They've been in and out of jail a million times. They've been passed around at this point by like 87 different dudes, him and his friends. And so that's the, that's the people that he would have for his niches, right? But they were starting to come forward.

And then a neighboring agency did a search warrant on his house and seized his fucking electronic devices and all kinds of shit. But check this out. The crimes themselves happened in Minnesota County. Okay. So they did the search warrant. And this is all within the last couple of years, man. They forwarded it to Willits Police Department, which is the department I worked at, who forwarded it to the local DA's office because that's for the jurisdiction of the crimes, right? They had an outside agency do it, which is very common for.

potential yeah you don't bias right yeah right guess who's still not been in any any fucking court proceedings him why who's his best one of his really close friends the fucking d a there and um it's it's crazy dude we had a uh that police chief i told you about um and that his his buddy that was a sergeant of the PD um kicked down a fucking hookers hotel room door in the middle of the night sexually fucking assaulted her and and all kinds of shit he got fired caught a case got a felony now that town's fucked up dude and so i started my youtube channel people like oh god there's no waitrant and then all these things with these guys start fucking happening um they're like oh shit the other thing too is that riko case so in 2018 i was

working in covalo and a guy that i later became friends with was rolling through mendocino county uh prior business executive and he's also a movie producer and he gets pulled over by two dudes that are uh no patches no name tags unmarked fucking car sorry this was december i think of 2017 they searched his shit no probable cause no warrant no nothing they said they were ATF agents right he had three pounds of weed because at the time he was um he's a business guy he was trying to start a legitimate fucking weed business he had different strains and shit that he was trying to do stuff with it was three fucking pounds though even then it was still a misdemeanor So they took his weed, didn't give him any paper, no citation, no court dates.

And he was actually a prior cop two for five years in San Antonio, Texas, back in the day. He didn't realize while this was happening. Something's not, right? He did. Yeah, very quickly. He's like, what the fuck? He's like, who are you guys? And they're like, oh, ATF for sure.

Long story short with that case, this part of the RICO investigation. So he named, one of the guys names was Huffaker, who was a, a PD cop for a agency just to the south of Mendocino County and this was like right on the county line but it was in Mendocino County the other guy he identified was Bruce Smith who at the time ran the comet which is a marijuana unit for the sheriff's office that I worked at so those two dudes and so uh then his name is Zeke flatten the guy that got pulled over so zeke calls the sheriff's office like dude I just got fucking robbed in your county they didn't believe him he got fucked around for a while and then he had to get the media involved who started harassing the

sheriff's office there um and it was just a bunch of denies denies denies they're like there's no way blah blah blah and so uh he called the ATF too's like hey did you guys fucking roll me so they started putting pressure on the sheriff's office there um and then when the ATF got involved is when Huffaker's partner j C Tatum that also worked for rona park police department where they they both worked the neighboring county finally types up a report for the stop they said 30 pounds a weed even though it was only three um the undersheriff at the time randy johnson he uh he lied and said like oh yeah this is uh this guy's fucking trafficking and and uh he called zeke too to talk to him about it he's like yeah we got you on video he's like great where the

fuck is the body cam so one story short with that there's guys at the sheriff's office they're involved it's been going to court for fucking years now both those runner park guys got fired they've been they've been snitching too um the investigation's still ongoing but it involves um the prior sheriff tom allman that hired me under his undersheriff randy johnson um bruce smith that ran the marijuana unit at the time and some other fucking cops there still still ongoing but they have a lot of fucking evidence against those dudes the other thing is too randy johnson the undersheriff when i was a deputy there. This just brought back to me. When I was a deputy, his spot, his house got hit. Once, sorry, twice, two separate occasions. Once was the DEA. The second time was when I still

worked there, there was a fire at his house. Okay. So fire guy showed up to it. And he was the undersheriff at this time. Firefighter show up. And they go to his house. Oh, fuck, it's the undersherer's house. Um, holy fuck, there is a shitload of fucking weed here. Just growing. Right? So they call Tom Allman and the marijuana unit shows up. Two of my friends were in the unit at that time. And there's one. So he lived on a compound, the undersheriff did, right? It was just a circle. I mean, it wasn't a circle, but it was a little compound. He had his house, his brother's house. And I think like their parents maybe, but all within close proximity. It wasn't like 200 acres. It was like maybe like a couple acres. But you could see one.

way in and one way out only of the property one driveway these dudes show up and two of my friends that were on the unit at the time i'm like bro what was up with the weed there he's like dude there was a bunch of fucking weed but he said there were so big ass plants that were hanging over the fucking fence to the driveway as you fucking drive up into his property so it's like he can't deny that that shit was being grown there right so um the sheriff at the time showed up and told him uh you guys say anything about this like you're you're basically fucking fired like no and um yeah so they were basically sworn to secrecy and his guess his the undersheriff his brother was the one that caught the case for that because you know he's the undersheriff right so

it could have been his way too i don't know but the fact of the matter is it's on his property still he's seen it driving in and out and this goes this is such a long history with this county bro like the the d a before that was there when i was in high school norman vroman he's all over google too uh the feds did a fucking warrant we're gonna do a warrant on his personal house because he had a fat fucking weed grow on his property and he was stealing fucking guns that he would they would take for cases and shit three days before they hit his spot because he was going to go to prison he had a heart attack and fucking died so the whole it's crazy it's a crazy that whole place is its own fucking movie dude like most

multiple movies. They actually wrote two books about the town that I worked in in Kovolo. One of them's 1500 bucks. It's called Genocide of Mededa and the other one's called Kings Around Valley, which is a loose tale, a fictionalized tale of the Shannon Barney, the old lieutenant and the wife swap and shit. Somebody wrote a story about those bucks. So, but it's a crazy place, man, but it goes back generations, man, like even when I was growing up there because it's so small and rural and everybody, and everybody, you hear all these stories and it's like everybody knew them but then when you get into the cop world the stories then become true and you start to figure out how they become true and

what happens so um you know like one of my prior sergeants man he fucking he he this is before my time but he gets a he gets a task with this call this assignment so that that that that cop that i was telling you about shannon barney that was living in cobal at the time that was a sergeant that supervised the crew out there, the two that killed themselves. So he gets this, uh, a citizen in Kovolo calls in, say, hey man, I got Shane and Barney, this lieutenant, this sergeant guy, uh, in his fucking weed farm because he grew weed out there. It was common knowledge. Um, I have it on, it was like video or photographs. Files the complaint and one of the old sergeants, uh, for whatever reason he gets tasked.

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August 1st. With doing the investigation on that. And it was legit as fuck. That sergeant called him when he heard about it and said, dude, do not fuck me over. He was all crying and drunk and shit. And he submitted the case up to the chain of, through the chain of command. It was all legit.

Disappeared into the fucking night, man. You know? So it's all about weak. there dude because you're pulling over cars sometimes you know especially when when it was at its peak 250,000 500,000 dollars fucking cash in the fucking trunk a lot of people move and wait dude I was pulling over fucking U-halls full that's where all the cartel guys drive right when you see a U-Haul coming out of the fucking valley out of covalo down into the main highway 101 it's filled with fucking weed 900% of the time thousands of pounds of fucking processed

right how easy is that to and it was for these dudes to fucking take okay you got a thousand pounds in the back of the u-hall you got two dudes that are from mexico here legally okay maybe we only have 400 pounds that they have you know what i'm saying and then they take it they sell it and through this riko case a lot of people have started to come out of the woodwork now people that were prior growers back when it was a crime that have now become legit but the fearful factor was so huge for these people. Now they're coming up like in other parts of the county. Yeah, we were getting extorted. They came onto our property, dug up our cash, took our fucking weed. No reports, no nothing. But back then it's like, do you want to go? What are you going to do?

You're growing illegally. And if you get to catch a case back then, you can go to prison. So what are you going to do? Call a sheriff. Yeah, one of your guys just came out here and rip me off my illegal fucking weed grow and implicate yourself? No. Yeah, I was, I was going to say there were, I remember talking to, you know, multiple Mexicans in county jail, well, which was the U.S. Marshal's holdover and in prison where they would say they'd get pulled over by, by whatever, you know, sometimes whatever sheriff's deputy, state, you know, the state troopers. And they'd search their car and they go, look, you know, we found, like, I don't know the amount, but let's, you know, we found. this much heroin on you and we found this much cash now the in the federal system they're going to convert this cash to heroin so you're going to get hit with you know a pound of heroin that's a mandatory minimum of 15 years or i can take the 15 000 of or 20 000 in cash and i can say i only found 2 000 and you'll probably only get five years what do you want me to do which

do you want me to put into evidence and they'd go put the two thousand dollars in there you go okay cool your isn't going to come up later right you're not going to be mentioning that there's money missing nope absolutely not okay yeah and then they just walk off with the money or they take half the half the you know heroin or whatever it was and they they'd still arrest them but you're either getting 10 you know 15 years or five what do you want it to be right it's like fuck yeah no four body cameras and all that shit well even they still don't have body cams at the sheriff's office I worked at in 2003 we had watch card

it wasn't even there when I first started I used to drive one of the piece of shit fucking old crown vicks when I first started actually it's a badass car I would like bomb around in the fucking hills and that thing it was nuts but they only had the watch card like the dash cam right which is the vehicle pullovers

that doesn't show you shit when you're in homes when you're doing fucking whatever they still do not have the sheriff refuses to get them like that's a red flag bro because I actually like them because what it did for me when I went to the PD because we had them there is people were coming and complain about somebody one of my guys perfect or me then my lieutenant can easily pull up the fucking body cam not that body cams show the whole fucking picture man that shit drives me

nuts too there's so much shit sometimes dude that like the public doesn't understand um some dudes we were getting shooting on site depending based on what they had just done their fucking criminal history this this this and this and that's why sometimes the media sees these videos like oh he wasn't even armed it's like did you do not know what you're talking about yes sometimes it is not justified that's what we see too yeah of course but i'm just saying like but they are more of a benefit than a hindrance in my opinion and it's a red flag when you're not wanting to fucking do some shit like that so um uh also while i was there this started in 2019 man this is the biggest fucking issue i had the biggest case i had an issue with

the other lieutenant that told you was a prior nortenio gang member sold meth and all the shit he lived on the coast so i'm there was a child child child okay child pornography so for where we worked in sacramento which is like uh the the eastern northeastern part of california they have a icaq there internet crimes against children they monitor all the child pornography being watched downloaded fucking sold online whatever so they get a hit they will obtain the whatever is being watched on that device, the images and stuff like that and send it to the county of jurisdiction.

So in 2019, they had a hit in Mendocino County. Two dudes get assigned to the fucking case at the sheriff's office. They do a search warrant for the IP address. Comes back to the lieutenant's house. That's fucking weird. Let's do a search warrant to the internet provider.

Okay, it's Comcast under the lieutenant's name. Okay, that's fucking weird. Who lives in the lieutenant's house at the time? the lieutenant his wife his like at the time it was like his 12 or 13 year like 13 year old daughter and his at the time he was 18 year old son okay so let's do some common sense here it's more than likely going to be the lieutenant or his son okay and no it's not anybody pulling up in front of their house jacking their Wi-Fi and watching kid porn on the shit okay so for i had like dumbass people tell me that's not how that this process works

So in these types of cases, which get done all the time, it usually takes on the higher end like a month. So you get that shit, you verify the residence, time is of the essence then. You're going to want to go fucking hit the house, seize the cell phones, the laptops, the fucking TVs, whatever, whatever is, is, is, is, is, is, has the ability to watch or look at those types of images, okay? Um, so they get the information that's the lieutenant's house. they go to the sheriff the sheriff says i want nothing to fucking do with that take it to the d a takes it to the d a and then it disappears for two fucking years two years again this was in 2019 uh september 25th of 2019 to be exact um and so after i left cop world i started my you know my confessions of an ex cop channel i did a video on this in

2021 November almost two years later i said dude what the fuck is going on with this case it should not take two years bro like these things are done in a matter of like a month it's it's very quick they're very easy it's it's not that complicated um and so and they already verified where the house is at you're supposed to go do a search warrant for the residents at that point so i did my video on it i said this is who's involved this is what's gone on the sheriff ain't doing shit this is a two-year case what the fuck this is clearly a cover up so two months almost to the day after i do that video after it's been two years sacramento magically finalizes the case oh we're done now it's all good yep uh we found out it was not the lieutenant it's his son who was 23 then at that point um or 22

sorry uh yeah that's it and then his son catches a fucking case um which is still ongoing from fucking well 2019 now so it's a four year child corn case um but what what what so matt kent that kentl the sheriff comes in doesn't uh an article after my video comes out and he's like yeah so i had initially cleared my lieutenant after three days in 2019 he was cleared he was all good actually i didn't clear him sacramento did they cleared my lieutenant after three days in november they kicked that off to them i think november 19th 2020 if they cleared him the what took so long to indict the care of someone to get to this right so so so he didn't realize that he fucked up his own life so many times because he's he got put in that position at that right

in the middle of the rico case dude the main sheriff tom oman retired early halfway through his fucking turn when zeke flatton got rolled pulled over and robbed on the side of the highway the main sheriff fucking retires right at the beginning of that gives the job to matt kendall who had not that long before that been a regular fucking sergeant okay like you know he wanted the distance himself right so uh he gets so he he he says in this article i cleared him after three days uh and then and and so it was all good well first of all he should have put him off work fucking immediately number one number two they never hit his house to do a search warrant on the house itself um it was remote shit only um and so in my mind what you just said

okay you clear your lieutenant after three days process of elimination who's probably going to be next the 13 year old girl i doubt it uh the wife i doubt it because these this was like legit kid porn bro i'm talking like you know under 10 years old right right so next logical choice his son the funny thing about this is or tragic thing is or the goes speaks of the corruption he cleared his lieutenant after three days in november 2019 then later in 2000 uh the beginning of 2021 he was allowing his son to go through the hiring process at the sheriff's office knowing full fucking well he was the next logical suspect so i do my video shortly after that he gets washed from the fucking program at the sheriff's office then in this latest article in two two years later yeah i cleared my lieutenant after three days but then he fucks up and he says uh yeah sack finally concluded it and the ia the eternal affairs investigation of my lieutenant is finally closed and we now determined it was his son so he admits in there that that whole two years his lieutenant was actually

still a fucking suspect and that i a was open that whole fucking time meaning he should not have been allowed to go to work but he was work never took a day off come to find out i found out how he really cleared his lieutenant is he looked at his watch card footage and matched the times with when the kid porn was being watched at his house and he's like yeah i couldn't have been him all right yeah okay bro so uh his his kid fucking takes this takes this wrap in my opinion i still think it was him and his kid's taking the fucking hit on this i could be wrong i don't have proof of that but what i do know is that's never how that goes under any circumstances matt kendall try to blame covid this is why it took longer no if they can clear your your lieutenant in three days it should take

another three days to clear the fucking son, dude, or to say if it's him or not. Right. And that was still before COVID. COVID didn't really, really hit until like fucking March of 2020. So you got like four months almost to make this fucking happen, dude.

Again, this does not take this long. So he was blaming excuses. And then his kid, Lieutenant's son, got a letter from the DA's office there, mailed to him, a cute little letter in the mail. Hey, man. Yeah, you're the suspect now in this kid porn case. can you please, at your convenience, go check yourself into the Mendocino County Jail,

book in, it will be an immediate book and release. No bail, no nothing. Just go take your little picture. So he does. You get to let you imagine that. Like you get it like for your shit, you can just get a fucking letter in the mail from the DA. Like, you know, Mr. Cox, can you please just go check yourself in and then we'll get released right away.

We'll do a court date later. No, that never fucking happens, especially if we're kid for him, bro. You're coming to your house and you deserve to be in a woodchipper, honestly for that shit but it's like checks himself in and they never do a press release that was my other biggest thing because it's a felony well it's a wobbler but you charge it as a felony so the jail did a fucking error and listed his booking shit as a misdemeanor because i did a secondary video once i found out it was him and he had been booked in but the sheriff's office didn't say shit and then Matt kindle comes out and like oh yeah the jail

messed up uh we didn't do one because of this this and that anyway his kid just did a pled not guilty initially and recently took a plea deal for two years of probation that's it no right no registering so so this is the thing too so okay first of all that is a minimum 16 month to a higher in three year in fucking prison for that crime okay right he gets zero incarceration time no jail no prison two years you know what happens to fucking chomo's in prison man they get right um so probation only registration you Yeah, so that warrants a mandatory registration for life. But in his final sentencing, so the deal's already done,

but his final sentencing is next month in October, 12th. 17B motion is on the table, meaning that upon successful completion of his probation, two years, he can have that felony dropped to a misdemeanor on his record, which means he only has to register for 10 years at that point. So deal of a fucking lifetime, but according to Matt King's zero preferential treatment with a letter in the mail,

badass fucking plea deal because he's the son of a lieutenant i don't know i mean i'm not a fucking detective or anything but i would say there's some shenanigans so anyway i left i fucking moved to florida uh the sheriff's office continued being fucked up i had a hundreds of people from what i was doing on youtube hundreds people i didn't even know contact me in various ways beg me to go back and run against matt kendall as sheriff and this was in 2020, I think, or 22, sorry. But I hadn't planned to do this. And I was going to start a new life over there on the East Coast.

So it was so late in the game. Thousands of people had already sent in their vote. This was literally like two weeks before the fucking election at this point. So I had to register as a writing candidate, meaning my name was not on any fucking ballots. You had to know I was running. I didn't get a chance to campaign. you had to write my fucking name on the ballot if you want to vote for me right right huge disadvantages so i fly back get registered through the fucking county which is a whole other corrupt

fucking piece of shit uh and um i didn't even think it was going to be done legit dude even if if i had one i was like i'm still going to lose regardless so uh a lot of people are friends with with the sheriff over there so i'll just say that but so i campaigned for one week it was like six days. I went to as many places in the county as I could, did meet and greets and shit like that. A lot of people already knew me from working in the areas, but also from, because it's small, but also from YouTube. So campaign for one week as a write-in. And I got 20% of the fucking vote, dude. It was crazy. If I would have ran for thousands of people, like I said, had already voted. I had so many people hit me up way after the fact, oh, fuck, I didn't know you were even

running. So if I would have ran initially, yeah, I could have still lost for sure, but it would have been very very fucking close very close we run again it's a four year it's a four year situation dude so he sells another fucking year and a half two years on the books um i saw people telling me to come back and do it but i'm like i can't commit to something that far and i don't even know what i'm doing next month right so i can't commit to something that far in the future um it wasn't something i wanted to do though like i mean i wanted to do it because everybody wanted me to do it and i was like the only way to to to help with this fucking corruption in this fucking fucked up place is try to become one of the main uh like influential

like people in power there right to to try to assist in getting rid of uh you know everything that's there because i was going to fire fucking like all the lieutenants they were gone there's ways to do it even though they're protected actually they're not as protected as the street cop guys um i was going to completely clean house i'd already do dudes that i knew that i was going to bring in to fill those positions i was going to promote some I had a lot of people that wanted to come work there on the street just because if I would have won. And so I had like a whole fucking plan. And yeah, it just didn't, you know, it didn't fucking work out.

Obviously, it was a six-day fucking thing. But, yeah, it was an interesting, pretty interesting experience. Well, so what, I mean, you're not in Florida now. Well, yeah, my girlfriend and I broke up a while back. And now I'm in Texas in the Houston area. I'm a private investigator. I run my own company. So I just been, you know, pretty much doing this and following people still hit me up all the time from Minnesota County.

Because like a lot of these guys, like I said, are catching cases now. They're getting fired. And, you know, that Willets Police Department that I used to work for, I just did a recent video on them. They are, holy shit. They just like terminated all their dudes. The chiefs forced to resign, the one that terminated me. They have like three total cops for that whole department now. it's just yeah it's it's a long story man but yeah that that whole county is so riddled with

corruption it's really uh it deserves its own like i said its own movie for the stories and the shit that have gone on there like not just in my time but even before that um dudes that got fucking like tortured by some of these cops back in the day that still will not report it even to the feds because they're so fucking scared um to like you know hey we're show tell us where your fucking money's at and and because everyone is burying it you know you bury your shit you they bear with a lot of gold and silver too like growers they deal with precious metals um that's also you know that's very common uh so but uh yeah man lots of people coming up against those guys now witnesses and people that have been um you know victims of the past

but it's interesting too because i've gotten a lot of people that have told me well oh they're just ripping off fucking people that are already committing crimes i'm like people actually say that shit i'm like well yeah but dude two wrongs don't make a fucking right man what the yeah listen absolute yeah absolute power corrupts absolutely so that's not gonna stick that that facet is going to run through every vein you know so yeah and you've seen you know you see these guys on on some of these cops on tic talk and and shorts and on videos where it's like you're like you know there some of them are just out of control they're you know they're pulling over traffic stop talk screaming at old ladies and just regular people on a traffic stop because i didn't i i didn't

pull over right away i went on a side street and they get a they run over there yanking open car doors and screaming at people's like bro it's this traffic stop like i was yeah you know i'm saying like what are you doing it's some you know some people just shouldn't be shouldn't be cops well and and i agree with you i've actually so i've seen that type of shit right um and it's it's it's It's people that, right, they shouldn't have been hired. They got into law enforcement for the wrong reason. They don't have the right. Temporality, temperament.

They don't. The thing that benefited me is, and what a lot of cops don't have the ability to do is to put themselves in other people's shoes. Because everybody to them is a bit to not, okay, not everybody. I mean, like some of the, some, not all of the guys that I worked with, especially the older generation. Everybody that's a criminal is a piece of shit. Everybody, dude. you grow weed piece of shit you've been arrested piece of shit and it's like uh they would say that too you know they think of people criminals is like less than human not all cops i just want to

say this over and over again it's not all fucking cops but some of the guys that did see this with and in my mind i always thought about it like this like and this is why i was as successful as i did in solving real fucking crimes and i treated because i treated people with respect but i could put myself in their shoes and it's like dude you if you grew up like they did you're you're not that that's always an excuse but dude you're already fucked from the get go man like you have no opportunity your brother your uncle your dad have all been to prison 18 million times your mom strung out on fucking dope um nobody gives a fuck about you your other uncle fucking molested your ass when you were fucking eight um you get into drugs at a young age and it's like so what

i always thought of it is like we're not all the fucking same man we're not all one theme like we all have different brain chemistry we grow up differently we have different experiences perceptions values and morals and people really think that we're going to like just not have people that break the fucking lot ever like everyone's just supposed to be fucking perfect like no and so the problem is a lot of cops take that shit personally like this fucking nerd out here that pulled me over for window tent that was very offended by my illegal window tent he was not having it like like he acted like it insulted his mom you know what I'm saying personally so but you have cops that do that like you know that they'll they'll get really mad

when you break a basic ass fucking law law that they probably commit themselves man you know like highway patrol they're big on speed and intent and DUIs and all that shit did I remember one day I was driving to work in my cop car these two dudes 7 a.m. racing each other on the highway 120 miles an hour I only got one of them pulled over both of them were off-duty highway patrol guys that had just gotten off of fucking work and you know it's like obviously i let that fucking guy go what am i going to do but um which is a thing cops give cops breaks it's a discretionary thing at the end of the day but um you know people think what they want is just how it is but it's like also as a deputy we don't write tickets i don't even know where the fuck my ticket

book was so uh the hypocrisy is what bugged me because that same dude the next day on shift is going to be giving somebody for a ticket for going 15 over and probably lecture in his ass you know what i'm saying right and that was always a huge problem for me um was dudes that i were seeing doing the same shit off duty um as on that's why i said i never got anybody in trouble for fucking anything that i was doing myself it's like you can't do it dude uh so it's and yeah sometimes they got they got fucking bullied in high school and shit and they power trip when they get the gun and the badge and if they don't have a life experience um then those are the ones that beat the fuck out of people unjustifiably shoot people when they shouldn't

well also because they don't know how to fucking handle themselves they're they're fat uniform looks like shit command presence is non-existent they don't they've never taken in m-ma or fucking boxing wrestling or anything and some guys will size them up and you know they're going to immediately go to their fucking gun right now yeah there was a lot of times I would have been justified on paper so many times so many fucking times dude i lost count shooting somebody and but i knew that the reasons when i didn't for those is like i realized i in my mind i knew it wasn't right i said i can articulate that i don't need to do this because of my abilities you know what i'm saying so but some guys don't do that shit and those are the ones that wind up in the fucking in the media you know what i'm saying so

yeah um okay all right well i mean you think there's there anything else we haven't gone over? No, I mean, it's even still an abridged version, but for the most part, that's, yeah, that's the main, main things there, yeah. Right. And you have, you have two channels, though, right now. Oh, yeah. So I have a, uh, the confessions of an ex cop. That's the main YouTube channel that I started when I was getting out of the cop world. And then my other one, I started with my buddy, who was a sergeant at a different police department in my county that got terminated for basically no fucking reason to. So him and I started a podcast together called two. It's the number two fired cops we have the instagram and all that shit uh we just started it like i think in may

but we talk about kind of a conversation you and i are having right now like like what cops actually think um and to kind of and why they do what they do and the realities of it the honest opinions because we're not going to we're not in that world anymore we're not going to get fucking fired again so um to let people know too civilians um like what's actually going on here and also cops that again have contacted us that are going through similar shit that we did is very common dude like very common um and and yeah so those are my two my two main cop things that we do that i do on the side if you decide to run for sheriff again let me know we'll do a we'll do a video on it yeah oh yeah you never know hey i appreciate you guys watching the video if you liked it

do me a favor hit the like button subscribe to the channel hit the bell so you get notified of videos like this check out the links in the description box and leave me a comment really appreciate it and i will see you i'm originally from queen's new york rockway beach my whole life i um went to grammar school there and then high school and after high school i went in the navy for about seven years i was uh military police but in a navy that's called master at alms okay i served in desert storm and i became a military police investigator and then became a instructor for shipboard security engagement tactics. So while I was in the Navy, the Marshal Service was recruiting.

They created this program called Operation Shining Star, and it was going after targeting military personnel to join. And I was one of them and was selected and went into the Marshal Service in 1995. So how long were you in the Navy? almost seven years. I went in right out of high school in 1988 and I got out of the Navy on a Saturday in June and 95 and on Sunday, June of 95 I was in the Marshal Service. I didn't have a breaker service at all. Okay. And you know, went to training in Glenco, Georgia. And then after that I went right to Eastern District of New York, Brooklyn, and served almost all of my 25

five years there in Brooklyn. In the beginning, I started out as a deputy in working court operations, prisoner transport, serving some like civil process, administrative duties, and, you know, doing my little rotations in the Warrant Squad. So it took a little bit of time, and then I, you know, gravitated right to doing warrants and working the street and doing fugitive investigations. And after some special assignments of protection details and even some high-profile trials. I eventually was right into the Warrant Squad and did that. I bet your majority of my career is working warrants and I was lucky enough to be part of the New York, New Jersey Regional Fugitive Task Force, which started

right after September 11th and funded by Congress. It's one of the biggest task forces in the nation and still is and is that so is that what you like if you're like if you're a police officer like you know a lot of them you know ultimately they want to work like homicide you know they want like that's like is working the the um the fugitive or the war and the warrant squad is that like what you like when you join is that like that's the goal that's it for the yeah when you're a deputy marshal with the u.s. marshals that that's the that's it. That's the pedestal of being in the Marshal Service. I mean, there's so many different divisions and sections, but everybody wants to work fugitive investigation warrants. You want to be

on a task force. I mean, I worked with the greatest cops in the world. I worked in, when I was in Brooklyn and the city, I worked with NYPD and, you know, coming from New York and then dealing with everybody in the nation here with different states, there's nothing better than, you know, NYPD detectives, they're like the best. And we had dozens of them. We had NYPD sergeants, lieutenants, then we had state police officers, immigration customs officers there, DHS. We even had relationship with DEA and ATF, even FBI and Secret Service. And we just worked together great. And it's, you know, when you join the Marshal Service, you know, you see it on TV and the movies. Everybody wants to work fugitive investigations and track down the worst of the worst.

out there, you know, and in New York, you know, there's no place better to work the street than there. So I did that for years and stayed in Brooklyn mainly and then I was moving up, you know, with seniority and then I put in and I took the test and I became a supervisor back in like 2009, 2010. And my chief is a great man. He had a lot of trust and confidence in me, selected me to become the supervisor. Why just survive back to school when you can thrive

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in there. And then eventually my chief put me back into the Warren Squad. And next to you know, I'm there supervising now the guys and girls I worked with for years. But it seemed let everybody wanted that. You know, they wanted me back there because I knew what I was doing and I made things happen. And I did that for almost 10 years. Our Warren Squad was part of the New York, New Jersey, regional feudal task force, which was in Brooklyn, New York City, as well as out in Long Island, which was Nassau and Suffolk County. I was also responsible for that, along with other supervisors. So what happened is out in Long Island, it was a sub-office,

and we had deputy marshals rotating through there. Well, we had one young lady who was really interested in doing it, and it was me and another supervisor who selected her to go back there and work with the local officers from Nassau and Suffolk County in Long Island to be full-time on the Warren squad. and she was going to represent the Eastern District and she was a U.S. Marshal. And this is now the U.S. Marshal's, it's our task force.

We run it. Okay. Well, she was doing good for a couple of years. Right. And then some of the guys that she gravitated to, they were older and they retired, you know, and that was kind of like her go-to guys. Well, the other guys in the task force didn't really take too kindly. her. They would make fun of her, tease her, and then it just started escalating and then

it got into bullying and then they would blackball her, they would ignore her. They would start messing with her desk. And at one time she went, you know, you go to Costco or BJs and you get those big plastic tubs of cookies, animal cook crackers. Right. So she would put them on her desk and share it with everybody. Well, one of the of these task force officers, local cop, urinated in her cookies and left it there. And she knew you could smell it. Yeah. Well, what's the issue? Like, why did they? Well, it came out and she was a female. Right. And she was, she's an army veteran. She's a U.S. Marshal. And these guys

did not want to take orders or directions from her. They just did not want to deal with her. They wanted to be, it was an all guys group out there. Right. And the icing on a cake is she was a lesbian. And she was an open person. She spoke about, she was gay, and she had a girlfriend. And they did not want that in their group. They didn't want to be part of that.

But this girl, her name's out there at Dawn. She was well known, well liked. the courthouse, everybody in there loved her. She was athletic, played softball, soccer. She participated with everything. She was, you know, a fun person that have around. How many guys are there here that are doing this? Is it three or is it six? I mean, is there like... It was up there was four to six guys that were messing with her. And it got to a point where she brought it to my attention and then I confronted the Super Bowl. that was out there running handling those guys and um he just ignored it he said you know

suck it up you know he's not here to be a babysitter when in fact you are you're the supervisor you have to babysit some of these people and everybody has to they need to get along they need to work as a as a cohesive group all the time and you know you have you have to develop a relationship you have to be friends you have to be partners you have to get along each other, you have to build something there. I mean, these guys and girls are carrying guns, wearing vest, you know, work in the street and you're doing a lot of hours. So she would do things and be like, hey, you're not checking in with me, you're not telling me you're doing hits. They would just go and do interviews and arrest people and not even tell her. And she's the team

leader. She's the boss. So after these guys found out we spoke to the supervisor out there, they got more in range. So then they would, now they would bully up. her and argue with her, totally ignore her, and then start teasing her. They would, in any, any marshal's office you work in, you know, you transport prisoners and they try to bring that legal work to the cell block. Right. And in their legal work is porn books. Right. You know, so we would seize that. They would be in a box. Next to you know, some of these magazines are heading up on her desk and they're opening up pitches of girls on top of girls. They're playing porn in the office where you hear the morning and she's the only woman back there. So it's a couple of guys against her. We bring that

forward to and nothing happens but now it just escalates more and more. Well there was one task force officer who was, had Spanish heritage and he came out and he made her kiss him every every morning to say hello. And this is on your team, these are your coworkers. And she just did it all the time and just fell into that comfort of doing it. And when she told me about it, I was like, are you kid it?

You gotta be kidding me, like this, we don't do this. I don't even do that with half my family members giving kiss us hello. So that man at one point grabbed her in the office when she was trying to walk by. and started almost groping her and just feeling her up and calling her a sexy bitch.

Right. And other people saw it and they laughed. She felt embarrassed. She was crying. She was humiliated. She left. So then she called me

and then that was it. I was like, just stay home. And then I confronted the supervisor again. And he now then went and said something to the guys. And it went over the weekend and that guy was told not to come back.

Well, two other guys didn't like that. So they showed up on one morning while they were preparing to do a hit and the rest. And people were like, why are you guys here? You're on a different team. And they were like, oh, we're just here to back you up. So when they went in the house, they get the perp, but Dawn was sitting on another person in the house, just watching. Right. And one of those guys walked by and pushed her, shoved their hitter, like a shoulder to the back.

Right. And made her stumble. And this gave her a look. And the look was after she told me was, we can get to you. Right. You know, what are you doing? Why are you talking this stuff? So that moment I told, I took her off the task force, had to go report it to my chief.

And she just reported so much more stuff that was happening. and it went up to chain to headquarters at the Marshal Service. And in the beginning, Internal Affairs was going to investigate this. But some other leadership personnel who were over the task force got involved and suggested that they have an investigator come and investigate what was going on there. And it went from these accusations, these complaints, these, you know, charges to these guys controlling an investigation and investigating themselves. And this executive from the headquarters selected an investigator who was at a New Hampshire,

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to an investigation on office culture, which lasted a couple of months. And the finding in that report was that I was a bad supervisor, and Dawn was the problem that enraged these guys because she was not a good coworker. Okay. And all these people involved, even they interviewed people that were never even there,

but were part of the task force, just couldn't stop praising the great work and personalities of these other guys. Right. Which we all knew was fault. We all knew. You just know, you know, and too many other people were coming and making,

supporting Dawn's allegations. Well, well, that was going on to one task force officer who hit Dawn, shoved her. He found out I was going to a New York Mets baseball game during this investigation. And him and a couple other task force officers made it a point to go to that baseball game, which was in Queens and it was on law enforcement appreciation night and he confronted me at the

game and we got into a big argument cursing and nose to nose we were going to fight and it went on for a couple of seconds and then it just stopped I walked away and left and I reported it to my chief like this is what happened this is going to be you know an off-d-incident yeah you know I'm going to get investigated but um so There was law enforcement appreciation night. There was a bunch of members from the New York City Task Force office there who witnessed this, and one happened to be the chief of the whole task force. So the next day, he made it a point to remove that task force officer from the task force. But he was still able to work with them, but he couldn't be in the courthouse anymore.

It couldn't be in the office space. So the results come out about the office culture investigation right so now my chief is livid he's like this is insane you know first of all I wasn't even there when these things were happened so how can I be a bad supervisor and when I did hear about it I reported it got involved and confronted the supervisor so my chief and and the marshal then argue with the leadership from the marshal's headquarters and he's you know they go through the whole list of complaints they're like, you investigated all this and went through this stuff and found nothing, nothing at all. You're going to let this deputy marshal female tell you that somebody peed in her food.

Right. And you're going to ignore it. Well, one of the people on that telephone call said he didn't know about that. And now that we bring that to his attention, he's going to instruct internal affairs to investigate that specific incident, just that one. Right. Not these other ones that she had listed. So you wait a month or two, internal affairs comes into the office, which they're terrible. They're absolutely horrible.

They're the people that cannot get into the Warren Squad. They're jealous, they're angry, you know, they're tools. Right. So they come in. Now their first person they want to interview is the guy who tried to fight me at the baseball game who's no longer on the task force. So now we're a year after this all started. from the office culture investigation. And he comes in and they sit him down in internal affairs out in Long Island.

They come up and they ask him, you know, do you know why you're hearing? He says no. And they're like, well, does there anything you would like to tell us? And he goes, yeah, I would. He goes, Bobby Lediger is a racist. He covers up crime. he's the biggest problem in the task force. This is a year later

now. This never came out during the office culture investigation. I wasn't even mentioned. Is this guy black or Hispanic? Oh no, he's Greek. He's Greek. Okay. From Long Island, white guy. Right. And we've all hung out. Like we were all worked together, went out to the bars together.

Well, that's the worst thing you can say. That's it. He's racist. Racist. So then him and his co-worker partner who was on the task force kind of agreed and then he interviewed him yeah he's a racist he says to n word all the time and um everybody knows about it and we're only coming forth now because of how much damage bobby lediger caused to the task force by having him removed like okay so this goes on so And now they try to create scenes or scenarios or incidents where I said specifically the N-word.

And one was during an arrest. And they said that, and one of the other guys who were one of the bad actors in this, tased the perp when we were arrested him. And it was a white guy. And in the past, they had stolen a car. We got into a car chase. It was an arrest in Long Island and the gas station. And they were like, yeah, Bobby Lettaker went up to the white girl.

girl and there was a black guy passenger in the car and there was supposedly a white girl in the back seat and said that's what you get for dating a black guy, the end guy. Yeah, yeah. But so odd is that the white girl on scene was Dawn, the marshal. Right. Who was in my car during this. But internal affairs didn't want to hear that, but they were using that scenario, that incident. Right.

But what's more strange is that one of the guys, the marshals, tased the burp, who was getting arrested. So if you would have pulled that taser incident report, you would know the full investigation of that, what it was. So you could see all the players there, but they didn't. So then he came out and they were like, yeah, we hear that he says the N-word at parties. You know, we're out at bars, one of them, and it makes us feel uncomfortable now. And we have to tell you this now because it's so bad. Because it took us a year to come up with this. Longer, yeah, it's going on for years, but yeah.

But then they started shooting themselves in the foot because then the supervisor goes, yeah, I think he does say the N-word. Well, you're a supervisor. Why didn't you report me instantly when you heard that? So you're a dereliction of duty. These other guys are not supervisors, they're investigators. So they'll play that. So they investigate me and they're like, you're a racist.

Then they said one of my sources of information, an informant, was married to my wife and that's why he's my informant and what what yeah that one of your informants was married to your wife this is what the the bad actor said about me that i was associated with a felon right and he and i owned a gym together okay and that same guy is my informant and prior to that he had been married no this was a story they made up okay that he was married to my wife So your current wife, he, so your current wife was his ex-wife. Correct. Okay.

Yeah. All lie, totally. Right. And you would think that would be easily, easily discounted, you know, proven. Oh, no. No, they were questioned me about that. Everything. And they were like, you let your informant live at your house.

He was married to your wife. They're having sex. I'm like, this internal affairs. These are my own people asking me these questions. So what are you trying to get at? So it's all lies. Right. And, um, you can easily.

find it. The best is that they said I owned a gym with him. I don't go to the gym. Right. You know, I'm like, look it up. Do these reports. There's no financial gains here. Nothing lies that people were making about me. Other cops were lying about me, but we're not going to go after them. Right. And that's really the culture now, isn't it? You could basically lie blatantly a lie and accuse people. And then when you find out that that's untrue, nothing happens to the person that lies. Nothing at all. And now, what if would have a famous quote, we would say to people when we were investigating to a fugitive and you're fine and like, oh, we're going to charge you at harboring a fugitive, aiding and abetting, and lying to law enforcement.

If you lie to me, I'm a federal agency. You go to jail for five years. Right. But what about these task force officers who were deputized that are lying to internal affairs so about another government official? Nothing ever happens to it. I mean, these people should have been arrested. Right. In charge. But no. And internal affairs would just turn around and be like, well we're going to investigate the accusation that's brought forth but it's a lie right and we've told you that so this goes on and I completely deny everything and there's no evidence to show I do anything but some people from in from the marshal service the internal affairs investigates it and then they push it forward and they write up their report and they cherry pick the words right

and it's all selective and opinionated and then we have what's called a proposing official, this person turns around and says, I don't believe Bobby Lediger. I believe these four to five other people that you are a racist and you use the N-word hundreds to thousands of times a day. Even though the only people saying you do it are these four guys that I have. Four bad actors that are originally named in the complaint of sexual harassment. And even though you have outstanding evaluations, you have awards, and you, you know, you work with a most diversified group of people and there's no complaints at all about you, nothing ever brought up. You don't have any complaints from any people you arrested,

anybody in the public, nothing. We believe them. You're a liar and we're going to fire you. And so this was in 2017. I was proposed removal. I had to hire a lawyer because we have no union. And we have some silly association, the federal law enforcement enforcement officers association. It's a joke. And I have a private attorney.

Of course, you're a lot of money. Right. And I go before this deciding official now. We have like two months to prepare. I collected hundreds of letters of support. My background was perfect. And I go before this woman who's a chief and plead my case to her and present evidence of those people being racist and sexist and degrading and lying about me.

But what's so strange is that before I get to do that and sit down with her, the day before she oddly gets a phone call from a civilian who wants to report to her that I steal cell phones from people I arrest and I gave her one and that I'm a bad person. Okay. It's very confusing, right? So this woman was the ex-girlfriend of one of the guys I worked with in the task force who was friends with these bad actors in the task force, wrote a motorcycle with them. Well, somebody, one of those men gave her their name and phone number to the deciding official,

which is all secret. This is all private. Which should tell you something's wrong, right? Right off the bat. And then that I stole a cell phone and gave it to her. So you're in possession of stolen property. Right. Does she have a cell phone? Does she provide the cell phone? Well, this is even better. That deciding official tells us, and my lawyer is like, you have to start in it, you have to report that to internal affairs. Right. So now I have a new internal affairs investigation on me while I'm getting proposed to be fired.

Right. And now we move forward towards our hearing, talk to her for a few hours, and the woman is just blown away. Like, she can see it. Yeah. She's like, this is pure retaliation. this is horrible. So are you allowed to present witnesses? Are you just? No, it's just me and her with my lawyer. I was going to say like Dawn couldn't show up and say this is what's going on.

No, but Dawn wrote a letter in support of me. That's the best you can do is that we have letters of support to refute that. And she read everyone. She listened to me. And she just asked her some additional supporting documents that my lawyer provided. But keep in mind, I'm being proposed to be fired. Right. Which is a big deal for a federal agent. A federal agent. I lost. I lost my gun, my badge, everything, but I still had my title and I have to go to work every day in administrative roles while I'm being like waiting. Yeah. So this is in 2017 and now we leave and it was on Good Friday and she, when we left, the lady

was like, have a happy Easter. I knew I was going to win and that she was going to and it was like a week later and she found she cleared me of everything it was unsubstantiated but keep in mind i don't get my attorney fee money back right i don't get any personal money i spent nothing you don't get nothing back you know it's just stress on you and um now i have an open internal affairs investigation for supposedly given this woman a cell phone so now i have i a looking at me again after i just got cleared cleared so that goes now that's April 2017 but are you starting I'm sorry I hate to interrupt no please are you starting to feel like

like this isn't going to work like they already know this might not work but we're going to keep throwing stuff until we get rid of this guy like at this point it's like okay so at this point these guys are just going to continue to hound me until they get rid of me well is that would are you feeling like that like I mean look they've already lied this investigation you know what throw another one at him, throw another one at them, throw another one. Like, something will stick eventually. It got to that point a year or so later, and I'm not a lawyer, I'm not a scholar, and maybe I'm too stupid to realize what was going on. And I'm very shocked, like, how could you do this to me, knowing that I have my chief and my marshal and everybody's supporting me? Even other people

from the task force are like, this is crazy what's happening. And I'm still in my position of power of being the supervisor or the Warren Squad. And keep in mind, well, we're going to be. this is going on. I have some of the biggest cases of the world I'm working. I'm part of the investigation, arrest, extradition, and trial of El Chapo. Okay. So my name is right there on the paper as being a supervisor on this investigation with other marshals I worked with, with the DEA out in Long Island. Huge. And it's happening in Brooklyn. As I'm being investigated, this is going on. So I'm going to an investigation. It lingers for two years. Not until April 2019, do I get a notice from Internal Affairs that they want to talk to me? It's like, you've got to be

kidding me. This has been going on forever. Right. So I'm thinking nothing's going to happen that they would have just dismissed it. Right. As that's happening, I also arrest a U.S. Marshal's top 15. It's like an equivalent to a FBI top 10. Right. This guy, Andre Nevesant, wanted in Brooklyn, on the Marshall's top 15 for a decade. It was on America's Most Wanted with that John Walsh. Yeah, yeah. And he murdered his sister and his girlfriend.

So so many people worked that case. They stepped all over it. It was a disaster. I come in and we get a test. teletype that his FBI number is hitting in Connecticut, but what does that mean? That he was fingerprinted and it comes back to his match, his fingerprints matched this FBI number, but the name and the date of birth aren't the same. So Bridge Ford, Connecticut, let him go. They let them go. They don't follow up. So we come in to work the next day and I got to teletype

and I'm reading over it. And I asked one of my analysts to call up there to find out. And, we go back and forth, we're like, can you share a picture with us? So we're like, holy shit, this is the perp. Right. This is the guy. So now I have to make a couple phone calls. People like, no, there's no way. He's in Trinidad.

He's dead. He's that. It's his fingerprints. It's him. It's solid. So now we're trying to do some due diligence because of the different akas and that. So now my, it's not hard to get a DM.

It's not. Yeah, it's not. So it wound up being like a traffic violation and sort of Bridgeport, PD, we start working well with them and they're giving us information, sharing photos, information on the car. And I go in and my chief now is working with a couple of other supervisors and they're planning the trial security of El Chapo. So I walk in and I'm like, hey, we're going to arrest a top 15. And he just laughed. He's like, yeah, okay, whatever. Meanwhile, I just got done working El Chapo with the extradition and I'm under investigation.

right so within an hour i had set it all up with guys up in connecticut coordinated everything and they were sitting outside his house and they're calling me and they're sending me video and photos of our guy sitting on his porch but the march were like hey we're waiting for some backup you know this guy's a major player you know we kill two people right his sister and a girlfriend so yeah and you know he knows he's going to go to jail for the rest of his life yeah he's he made very well you did yeah but he's got away with it so many times he's been on the run But I'm like he's wanted out of Brooklyn and he's in Bridgeport. So within an hour, they call me up, send me a photo like, we arrested him.

And I got the deputy marshal up there. He's like, thank you, you just made my career. I arrested a top 15. I'm like, yeah, no problem. Not looking for any anything. I did my job. So I go in and I tell my chief and he's like, I can't believe this. That year, our district, East of New York, district of the year, would be in one of the largest

districts in the age, eighth largest district in the nation for the work we did with El Chapo and the arrest of this top 15. Right. Because of me. Right. But no crap. I'm like, yeah, and whatever, you did your job. And I'm under criminal investigation.

So now I go after that, the same guy from the Marshall's headquarters who made the decision to investigate me, to investigate themselves, the task force. This guy comes to Brooklyn a day or two after we. arrest the top 15 because he wants to walk through the courthouse to see what's going to go on with the El Chapo trial. So he's an executive. He's like the number two guy of the Marshal Service. So he comes in, sees me, he gives me the typical handshake and, you know, the street hug, you know, like he's proud of me and all that. But never congratulates or thanks me for doing a job well done. Right. Because he's stabbing me right in the back as everything's

going on. So there I have my opportunity to call him out. this is the number two guy at a Marshal Service. Right. So I'm not a coward, you know, I'll do whatever you want. We can talk, we can debate, we can fist fight, we can all. Right. So this guy is just a regular deputy just like me. He came up through the ranks, you know.

It's just that he took all the tests and he transferred from where he was. Now, backpedal, he was from New Hampshire. And the person who investigated the office culture case was from New Hampshire. okay so they all know each other but this guy the number two guy he's now running the martial service totally forgot where he came from right so I'm like you know you're a real you really suck man I go you know what they're doing to me and you're letting this happen he's like we're just going with what internal affairs is investigating you know whatever comes whatever accusations are made we have to investigate but you initiated the investigation

You created this and now it just snowballed out of control and because you want to protect your congressionally funded task force because if Congress hears about this or the public hears about this, you're going to look like a real piece of garbage because you let sexual harassment take place here and you didn't defend or protect one of your own. You went against your own to say that we were wrong and look what we did when our own were wrong we got rid of them when the other people, the outsiders were wrong, but you didn't want to have that political battle with outside law enforcement. Right. It's silly, but it's true. It happens. So now I just do this big arrest. I'm under IA. Now I get noticed that they want to talk to me.

So finally, now I have to go to headquarters with my own private attorney. Again. Again. Right. So now I go there and I'm summoned to be there for two days, two days of investigation against me. And it's stemmed and it's a whole list of things. And it's just because of a phone call from a woman that says... That's how it started. That's how it started. That's how it started. And that was in the middle of the interviews. In the very beginning, they asked me if I was a racist, if I used the N-word. So my lawyer's enjoying this. Like, that was already investigated and closed. What are you doing? doing. You know, you're harassing them, you're retaliating. So we put it on the record. It was there.

Then they said, they asked me about the man who started all this. So we're like, this has already been asked and answered. It's already done. What are we doing here? So then they went in and said, one of the deputies that worked for me years ago got pulled over in New Jersey for speeding. and he got a ticket. I'm like, okay. They're like, we have a text chain of you two talking and you tell them like, all right, well, just go take care of it.

Right. Did you call the New Jersey State Police and fixed a ticket? I'm like, that's what you get in North States. So they said I misuse my power to get a ticket fix, which I didn't. And that deputy admitted it saying I didn't do anything. But still, they use my... They just throw enough at you.

But that was one thing. That was abuse of power. Then they went in and said, I stole a cell phone that they have a photo of it, but they don't have the cell phone. Then that lady said, I gave, she had a shotgun and I gave her shotgun bullets, but they don't have any of that. And now she has a criminal history. She's been arrested before, so she shouldn't be in possession of a gun. She said, I stole a camcorder and gave it to her, but they had. a pitcher to camp quarter that had the serial numbers on there but they didn't run it we don't know what that is right we don't know if that was stolen well it gets even better i was gonna say first all she's admitting that she's a felon in possession of a firearm that's three year mandatory

yeah minimum in new york in new york i was just federally that's but that's new york it's the worst state in the world to get charged with a gun crime you know you're going in but they don't they don't care yeah because it's against me bobby lettinger right then she just adds more to it and it gets better. I'm a drug dealer. I'm a drug addict. I sell drugs. I steal drugs from the evidence locker. I steal money from the evidence locker. I sell social security numbers to her for fake ID. So me and her are collusion with social security numbers to people. I filed for bankruptcy, which destroys your security clearance if I ever did that. Right. I am a bouncer her at a bar. I'm 5'6, 160 pounds. I'm bouncer at a bar. I don't fight, you know. I cheat on my

wife. My wife cheats on me. I misuse my government vehicle. I... You dislike, you don't like children or small animals. Nothing, all that stuff. But yet I would hang out with this woman with her then boyfriend when we were working all together. We went out to dinners, restaurants, bars, but all of a sudden this, but can't provide any evidence on any of this stuff. So the Marshal Service takes it and runs with it, and they're going more and more and more and asking me all these questions. They never give me a drug test. They never do an inventory of the evidence lockers.

They don't want anything that doesn't support their version of the events. But why not? Why wouldn't you want to know the truth? Why wouldn't you want to be like, wow, this guy is getting screwed here? and he's another marshal we're going to investigate one of our own that's what it really comes down and we're going to destroy him

right he's well known he's got over 20 years in the marshal service he's a supervisor he's in a warren squad I've been involved in four shootings I got a great reputation the men and women I work with love working with me or for me

I don't have any complaints against me why wouldn't you want me to be cleared why wouldn't you want to find a truth So as I'm sitting there with internal affairs I'm hoping you know that do you know the answer that No I'm so looking for it man I'm trying to think of one

Well I think it's funny as I have people ask me And they're like who is Bobby Lederger Like who am I that this that you came at me so hard That you spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to investigate me I mean it got so bad We lived in Long Island New York I had a beautiful house had a mother and daughter house on a half acre of land.

Nice, big pool in the backyard. I would have parties at my house every year for all the guys and girls I worked with friends, family. And I had to work in Brooklyn, and I was a good hour or so from home. And my wife was home alone. My mother-in-law lived next door. And the neighbors would tell my wife

and my mother-in-law that there's undercover cops sitting on the block. And then we were getting screws, putting our tires. They were coming on our property and putting stuff in our cars. We were getting pulled over. All of this started because you told a couple of fraternity guys stop bullying this chick.

100%. And it's a fact. That's why it started. It's a fact it all came out because those same men who were bullying her and hit her and harassed her, they omitted in their own statements that I violated the blue wall. I went against them I believed her over them

and they admit it and the internal affair saw it and in my own people my own leadership read it saw it and they knew people were coming after me so now these people put my family

in life jeopardy they put my wife in fear so while this is all going on my wife's like I want out of here we turn around snap at a finger and we sell our house in Long Island worried by the US government

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happening. And it's like the movie Copeland. You know, it's the best of Sloan where all the dirty cops are, yeah, live in one neighborhood. So we're like, no, it's happening, you know, and even my own chief just couldn't believe it. And they were like, what do you do? Like, I'm like, how do you protect, how do I protect my wife? Right. What do I do? You know, you hear all these people, you know, and I, not to diminish anybody or, or anything, but how many times you hear people, men, you know, you mess with my family, I'll kill you. Right. Really? Really? You're going to do that? You're not going to do it. Everybody talks a big game. I had to do something. And the only way to protect my wife was to leave the state. And that's what we did. And I stayed in New York and I would take leave and go back and forth to visit with her in Florida. She worked from home now in Florida with her company out of New York, which was great. They helped us out a lot. and now this is in 2019 yeah i was going to say that i think the problem is that you you wouldn't

like it's not a it's not a far leap because for you to do that because given the situation like you wouldn't think it would have gone as far as it has already gone so the idea that it wouldn't go a step further it would be stupid to think oh no they won't they won't do anything to my wife they won't mess with my family they won't won't do no no they've already continually pushed that bar there doesn't seem to be a limit so I can so to say hey look let's just let's just sell let's get out of this let's let's I mean I can totally see that because I was thinking wow that's that's like you know you really that's a huge step but at this point they don't seem to be stopping so I don't see what other choice you have nobody seems to be

looking out for you no one is looking out for me I granted I had the support of my own district the people like backed me and like you're a good guy but that goes so far yeah you know I need presence I need protection I need money you know and you what do you do right so I that was the best thing we could did we didn't want to do it you know we changed our whole lives and the agency the Marshal Service knew I was doing that I told them in internal affairs that I sold I had to leave because you people did nothing for me you knew they were coming after me they told you they were coming after me and you did nothing right and they still to this day you never helped me nothing they have they tell you when you're in

internal affairs you're sitting there like well you can call eap you know the employee assistant program you know to to vent to some lady in india that i'm feeling depressed or something right come on so and i'm still working so now we'll back up a little bit again and i'm still in internal affairs being interviewed so they're asking me about being a drug deal or stealing money they're asking me then if I'm a bouncer they're asking me if I fix tickets now they want to see my cell phone the government cell phone here you go they take it they bring it in the back it's gone for a couple hours so they're downloading it they come back and they had a folder and they open up their folder they give me back my cell phone government cell phone and they're showing me

pictures of a naked playboy model. I'm like, okay. They're like, do you know who this is? Like, yeah, I know her very well. And she was a fugitive that we arrested. Right. So I'm like, okay. So internal affairs is blown away. They're like, she's a fugitive? I'm like, yeah. I go, it was all over the news. It's a big thing. I go, it was a Hague act. She kidnapped her her daughter from the husband who was in France. She was from Vietnam. And they issued a warrant for her. We arrested her the next day trying to flee the country with the daughter and brought her in.

I said, we photographed everything that she had. She was an international playboy model, a DJ. Right. And I'm like, I took pictures of the Playboy book for identity and evidence. Here's all her clothes. Here's all her jewelry. Here's our five cell phones, a laptops. Here's everything.

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The emails are there. No. You should have deleted those pictures. I'm like, no, you can't. It was on a work phone. It's legit. It's evidence. I said it's saved in the cloud.

You can't get rid of it. that anymore because you people and the government created this cloud to keep it. And plus, everybody knows about it. No, we think you kept those photos for self-gratification. That's a crime, you know, in the Marshal Service. Okay. Yeah, it's self-gratification. So the lady who say that to me, I just assumed that she was jealous because she did not look like the Playboy model. So that was a personal hit toward me. I'm like, I'm married. I've been married for 25 years. my wife is absolutely gorgeous. And this is the year of the internet.

Right. I don't need to take pictures of a Playboy book when I can just go on the internet and find whatever you want. This is what we're dealing with. These are grown adults were coming up with these disinformation. So that was thrown out against me too.

Then I was at one point being looked at or so-called groomed to be appointed as the U.S. Marshal in eastern New York, Brooklyn, under President Trump. So, like, I had people above me saying, you should put in your application to become a presidential appointee. While I'm being criminally investigated, while that's going on, and then because my background is so well, and then I have such a great relationship with other people that are endorsing me. But I have my own agency trying to put me in jail. Right.

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I've been interviewed by some people under the Trump administration for an appointment. So just can't believe it. And at this point, my wife is totally disgusted with, the government to no end. What a waste of money so far? They just, it's just, it's a shame. Like, endless, I, I, what is it, proudly can say that the American taxpayers got their money out of me.

Right. I worked my ass off every day. So when now we're in 2020, this is the year I'm eligible to retire to have 25 years in the Marshal Service. It's good. I came on June 95. I can retire June 20. So I think it was in February, March, I put in to retire, that I want to retire at the end

of June 2020 because all the, I just went out. Yeah. Well, while I put in to be to request that I can retire in June 2020, I am now hit with another proposed removal from everything in internal affairs did to me. and of course it's abuse of power, failure to supervise, lack of candor, misuse of my government vehicle, my phone, anything you can throw on there. So I have my lawyer again, we have to write up a rebuttal. I collect more letters than the first case. All my awards again, being part of the arrest with El Chapo and Nevesen. Great things.

so we go now to headquarters to speak with the deciding official and this lady actually knows me personally knows me she was my class advisor we even had email to exchange that she knew what was going on at the task force in Long Island of how I was protecting Dawn and that it was all messed up right but she forgot that so we sit down and talk to her she only talks me for about 15 minutes so we knew she made up her mind she was going to get me fire me and i sat there and i begged i go listen i'm just going to retire i want to retire june i can retire in june and i'll have 25 years you know leave me alone so like i said it's the end of february 2020 you know it just kicked off february 2020 worldwide pandemic oh yeah oh yeah we're shut down man that's it the government

is shut down. Everybody in headquarters is teleworking. I think that would help you out. We all thought it would help me out. I'm like, I can't win this fight anymore. So, April 17th, 2020 is Friday. I get an email from Human Resources, Marshal Service, headquarters, that I am awarded retirement June 30th, 2020.

I can retire on June 30th, 2020. Perfect. I'm in Florida. I'm using up my annual leave and sick leave because I only have a few months left. Right. I have more time in my hand to use up than on a job. Yes. So that was April 17, 2020 of Friday.

Monday, April 20th, 2020, 4 o'clock, my chief calls me, you're fired. They terminated you. Holy shit. Just like that, snap of the finger. And I just sat there and I was just, I couldn't believe it. And then I could believe it. And I'm like, all right, this is a joke, you know, worldwide pandemic, we're shut down. So I read what they write.

And this lady who knew me, she's like, the Marshal Service leadership. doesn't have the confidence in you to perform at a satisfactory level. I respond back. I too don't have the confidence to respond at a satisfactory level, but I've always performed at an outstanding level for the last 20 years and you all signed off on it, which in my record. You don't even know what my evaluations are.

Right. I'm above what you want me to be. And the best one was that the naked pictures of the Playboy, model. I find that you did keep these pictures for self-gratification. Where's your evidence on, you can never prove that. I've never printed them. They weren't on the, there was nothing to get, like it was insane, but this is what they come up with. So we then file an appeal with what's called the Merit System Protection Board. It's a joke. It's a kangaroo court that's created by the government, it's supposed to be more for the employee, but it's totally turned tides and it's more

for the government. And what happens is a guy like me doesn't fight them. You don't go up against the government. You don't have the money to do it. You have to pay for lawyers. I now am fighting them, and I'm very fortunate. I have the National Police Defense Foundation backing me over the Marshal Service and they created a legal defense fund to help pay my legal fees. Nice. My case is sitting and it's going to take a while. It takes years because it goes before a quorum, a three-panel quorum, and they're all appointed by the president.

So Biden just last year appointed three of them. One already resigned. So now there's only two. It's like you just can't. Right. um so that's that comes 2020 and um what do you do i got no job i lost everything right i lost my salary i lost my pension i lost my medical benefits everything everything is gone and um so for about a week you know i sat in a corner crying depressed feeling shame and embarrassment

and my wife was like what do we that's it let's go you know And I did some great things, man. I had to go, I went on unemployment at New York. And I did that for several months. And then she's like, we got to get a job. You got to get something. But it's the pandemic. I'm screwed.

What are you doing? Yeah, what job? What I put in for Home Depot. I couldn't even get that. And next you know, down where I am, I put in and I became a supervisor at a pre-planned retirement center. And it was pretty, it's well off place, but it was horrible, you know, getting $25 an hour. You know, but I had to do somebody.

They gave me benefits, you know, so I had to have it. But I was really lucky, too, because I'm a veteran. And the VA here in Florida was great, you know, so I had medical protection there. My wife had medical protection from her company. they were helping um then i started searching around a little bit more and i wound up finding a good job through lincoln which pushing my story out there right and um i now currently work as a security consultant for a non-profit organization international i do a lot of traveling it's great the organization supports the hell out of me for what i did and they can't believe it

But also what happened during all this time is I connected with some great people on LinkedIn. LinkedIn was great for me, for me. I didn't do Facebook or any of the other social media and I met this one guy who's an FBI agent, lawyer, who got jammed up. They went after him and he's fighting them as well. he put me in touch with another FBI agent who resigned before they could fire him and he waited a few years until he reached a certain age

and he went back and got a government job so I connected with that guy and he was telling me about it and I'm like I can't do that he's like you have over 20 years that's federal law enforcement right and he goes you're over the age of 50 now because you have seven years in the Navy

I was terminated with 24 years and 10 months right yeah that's if that's not personal retaliation you can't and everybody knew it so this this guy educated me and gave me the policies and the programs to follow and I like saying I used the government against the government right and I got my retirement okay so I beat them at their own game and I got my full 32 years retirement law

enforcement everything I have my my medical benefits and they give you a social security supplement to the age of 57 I mean what did you do go get another job and work for two months yeah I don't want to go into great okay okay I understand that's fine it's fine Because I'm writing a book, and it's going to be in the book. But you know what? Yes. Yes. But you don't know what I did, but how long I did it.

But it's amazing. And it's what you do to protect your family and yourself. And, you know, you can't let them get to you. And that's like the whole thing in my story is, you know, don't give up. Don't ever give up. Don't give in. Don't let the bad actors take it. you're down, you know, and that's what I try to put out there, even when they come at you

with things, you know, and the lies that people say about you and the false accusations and it just, it sucked, but, you know, you fight through it. And now you can, you know, I can look at these people right in the eye and know that they're, you know, they're garbage, you know, and I'm not impressed by them, you know, the government lawyers are not anything. They're still government lawyers. If you were that good, you'd be in a private sector. Right. Right. I used to always say that, like, you don't get to the top of your field and end up working for the Bureau of Prison. Like, you know, like the doctor's all the way down. Like, that's just not how it works. No. So, yeah, it's, it's, I was going to say, there's a guy I interviewed who runs a YouTube

channel. I should put you in touch with him. He'd probably be interested in your story, too, because he um he actually uh you know wade remember the guy that that it was a self-defense well it was self-defense but it was stand your ground where he was attacked in his own home by a guy and shot him you know but he was attacked the guy was drunk they'd both been drinking the guy was drunk he attacked him multiple times he told other people he was going to kill him and then he attacked him and wade shot him and they arrested wade he got out he's like i was in my own house And this guy attacked me over and over again. You can see that I've been hit.

You can see that like the whole thing. And it was really just one detective that had she was brand new detective. First case she worked decided she wanted to get him. And they fought it. He pulled $100,000 out of his retirement to fight the case. And it took like two years. And the only reason it didn't go forward, they didn't go forward with it is because a new district attorney came in and his lawyer went in and said I want to sit down with you just show you the

evidence and he said and he told Wade look it's a risk because we're laying out our whole case and he laid out the whole case and showed it to him and the guy was like oh yeah yeah I'm dropping this okay but yet you know it's you know they the other you know they pad the file they they hire somebody to come up with to come up with a forensic report that supports their version they and i've done a lot of i don't know if you know much about me but i've written a bunch of stories right and i've uh of true crime stories and you know i have a guy who like literally they the FBI continually investigated this one person and asked they they padded the file with all of these people that said he did it he did it he did it he did it he did it so by the time it's done

you've got 30 people, 28 of which said he did it, you know, but out of almost all of those, they can't really tell you who told them that. And it all really stems from one guy telling this guy who tells this guy who tells this guy. And so this guy talks to the FBI and says, yeah, yeah, this is what I've heard. But it all really comes from one guy. Of course. You know, and then when you're completely done, it's like it does look overwhelming. And if you were to go to trial, it would seem overwhelming because all these people would get on the stand and say, yeah, this is what he did.

you know but really if you look at it it's like okay well you padded the file like you only investigated people that supported your version you're a narrative yeah your narrative so why didn't you matter of fact they they actually gave people people um lie detector tests until they came up with their version and then when they came up with their version they stopped giving it they just took the thing okay did you did you give them a lie detector test on that version well no because we knew we knew that was the version that we wanted to go with. So why would we give them a lie detector test? Well, that. It's amazing. You bring that up about the lie detector test and you look at something like the martial service and you wonder like what makes it, what's happening today

with law enforcement and I'm sorry, I jump around a little bit, but the Marshal Service does not do polygraphs. They don't lie detector new employees or even their staff. Why not? Why not? Why wouldn't you raise the standards to have the best people out there? Instead, you lower the standards. You're doing away with some of the fit requirements, the education. Why wouldn't you want the best people? Your weapons qualls. And it's amazing. And it all come down to like the way the culture is today, you know, current events. And it's a shame. I mean, I was watching something a few days ago on ESPN. And they were showing a story of Whitney Houston singing the national anthem in 1991. Right. What happened? What happened today that now everybody's a racist, you know,

and that's the thing to call out there. Well, you're white, you're a racist. Everybody's white supremacy. Really? And what happened? Because she came out, beautiful woman, she's wearing sweats. She wasn't dolled up in a gown or anything. And she sang the national anthem, the best anybody's ever heard it. And when I went through what I went through, and to see that they pulled the race card against me to come at me. They just come out left field. Why? You never saw that coming at all?

Never saw it coming. The best that they said to me they were like, I was such a racist. And I didn't have, you know, I don't even know the proper language to use anymore because you don't know what to say, but they're like, you don't have black people at your house. Like we had dozens to picture. I'm like, I have to prove that I had black people at my house. my own family members are married to someone of color or anything right and I have to prove this and I had a a guy worked with big guy and we're the same age same exact age and um black guy from

queens and we're great friends and he lives in California now retired he wrote one of the best letters for me ever and he goes off on the letter saying you know I'm I'm proud of the Marshal Service for investigating racism and doing what you're doing, but you got the wrong guy. Right. Why don't you ask me, and I'll tell you who the racists are. But this is how you're going to do it? Yeah, they don't want to hear that. No, they don't.

And it's a shame that you want to hear the truth. And then just the girl Dawn, I defended, she's defending me today. Is she still in the marshals? No, she retired. and what's odd is, though, during her last year or two, they were going after her and making accusations. The same bad actors that she complained about made complaints about her, that she took her dog to work, she misused her government car, like all the petty-ass things.

And the same lady that decided to fire me made a decision to suspend Dawn. So then she filed an EEO and they settled with her because they knew the deciding official was showing favoritism toward the TOS Force. So Dawn settled her EEO. They gave her back all her lost days. They promoted her and they gave her money. But you still came after me

when the original thing was I defended Dawn for what it was and it was all pure retaliation. but they pile it on it's just like you said they pad the folder they pad the case and they put so much in there and they weren't even complaints against you like you're finding stuff to investigate well I understand like they like the racism thing like they have your phone right like there's text messages there's like if I was so blatant and I'm saying this hundreds of times a day then I certainly would have said it in text I certainly would

have thrown it into an email I certainly would have like nothing right no Nothing at all, but here, well, here's the conversation you and I just had now for the last hour or so. It's the most you're going to speak almost in a week. It's as long as we spoke and there's been hundreds of thousands of words we said, maybe. Right. Not once did we say the N-word. Right. But I say it all day long.

Yeah. And I, you know, I can hold my head up, you know, like, you got me, you know. And my dad says it and I get what he's saying. And it's a shame that he thinks like that. There he goes, even when you win, you lose. Because all the money I've lost over the years are going through this. And somebody just called me the other day looking for help. And he's like, well, how much did your lawyers cost?

I'm like, more than your salary. Yeah. But you can't ask those questions. You know, everybody has a different amount. But if that's what you're worried about to fight, to, to prove yourself, don't call me because you're going to spend a lot of money to fix this. Well, you know, like I told you about that guy, Wade, he spent over 100,000. What if he didn't have it?

You don't have it. What if he didn't have it? You don't have it. Nobody has it. That's your life investments or whatever. What are they going to do, remorgeting my house to pay for my attorneys? Right. That's why the government got you.

You can't. It's impossible. You can't go to take out a loan. Yeah, especially not if you were to go to the bank and say, oh, I need it for my legal fees. They'd be like, yeah, well, you're going to go with you're going. through something we're not interested in being a part of. Well, especially during a pandemic. Oh, yeah.

There's no jobs out there to get a job to pay anything back. Right. So that's where they think that you can, they can win. And they do. And they intimidate you and you're afraid of them. Of what? You know, when you sit down and you start talking to these people, it's not impressive. You know, they're lawyer.

Like we said, they're government lawyers. Listen, there's some U.S. attorneys out there that are unbelievable. And they're very comfortable just staying in the position. that they're in because they have a family and it's a nine to five job right you know but you go to the private sector you're putting in 20 hours a day yeah you know to make 18 million a year so you're gonna you're gonna work hard yeah so you're waiting you're you're waiting for this you're waiting for your um it's not a trial it's it's an appeal it's an appeal you're waiting for the appeal to go through yeah and what I'm waiting for that

is that my appeal is to get my Marshalls retirement right and to get my back pay for the two plus years I've lost and to get attorney fees and then that's it okay in the meantime I'm I work I I'm currently writing a book right um putting it all out there you know and um all right in florida man you know all right um do you have anything else no you got anything um one thing that i would think would be interesting if you can't talk about it uh like the al chapo stuff or like the catching the guy um like the top 15 list in the marshals like the story the story about that it can be like a 10-minute version 5-minute version whatever i can go into that too and there's another thing too more

to add to my case, which makes it insane too, is that in August 2014, we were involved in a shooting, arrest of a shooting of a guy named Oswald Lewis in Queens. And it was a drug case out of Virginia and tracked the phone. And it was like 11 o'clock at night, a house chopped up into apartments. We knock on the front door to the owner of the house. It's like, no, he lives in the back so we're there and um there about eight marshals there and about eight 10 NYPD guys there we surround the house we knock on the door not then you hear the TV we take the door this guy goes into the back of the the makeshift apartment and barricades himself into his bedroom and so we start making entry and I me and this one other woman I worked with we didn't even get into the door

into the door yet we were on the frame of the door and the perp puts his hand out and start shooting at us and now there's six marshals in this little place like and you know they start returning fire and um you can feel you know it's hard to say but you can feel the bullets going past your head you can feel it you know the the fear and the stress and anxiety and um So some of the marshals wound up when he put his hand out, they shot his hand and shot the gun. And then the perp went and grabbed another gun and started shooting out the window where the NYPD cops were outside. So during the, you know, he finally comes out. He surrenders.

We arrest him. That's going to be bad. I was going to say, like, I mean, after shooting to the cops, I think I'd rather just go ahead because you're about to spend the rest of your life in prison. No, this gets better. This gets better. So we get them, we put him, we have EMS there and everything on scene within seconds. And it's New York, you know, everybody's coming. So we take him to the hospital and now he's getting charged with, you know, attempted murder,

federal agents and everything. Well, of course, in the courts, you know, it starts getting dwindled down. They're like, yeah, assault, you know, use of a firearm. We're like, it's felony for that. Like, what do you do? So he defends himself in trial. So while he's, but before the trial, NYPD talks with him. Now he's going to start talking.

They hit him with a homicide in New York. He's got a drug case out of Virginia, and then he's got the shooting at us. Right. So right now he's in jail for 40-something years. Right. Okay. So while he's in there, during now I'm under Internal Affairs investigations, he's making all these accusations out of it, which police brutality.

You didn't even get in the room. Before he started shooting? No, but we were handcuffed. We were beating him up, calling him the N-word. Right. Everything. There's hundreds of people there watching this, including EMS, neighbors. Other body cams.

Everything. Right. So this goes on. And the actual, the actual, one of the actual marshals who shot him is not a white guy. Right. I'll leave it like that. He's not a white guy. He shot him.

The PIRP. They remove him from the complaint. And then they remove the Spanish female from the complaint. Then they remove one or two other people from the complaint. So it's down to you. It's down to five people on the complaint that are white on the complaint. While I'm being investigated by internal affairs, it's all coming down. So now the U.S.

Attorney's Office is representing us because it was in the line of duty that we did this. It was a case. So now the U.S. Attorney's Office has to rehabilitate. my reputation because I was fired by the Marshal Service which works for the Department of Justice just like the U.S. Attorney's Office works for the Department

of Justice. Right. So they're like how do we do this? Meanwhile the U.S. Attorney's Office we know you're a great guy. So this is all going. I'm like, yeah, let's look what I did because they've already known. It's like they pull up and they're like, well he's part of the whole investigation

extradition trial of El Chapo in Eastern New York, where we had the biggest criminal in our lifetime now. And it's like, we don't know what to do. And then I put on there, too, about the top 15 fugitive, Andre Neverson. You know, it was one of the most high-profiled cases for the Marshal Service for years. It was, you know, on America's Most Wanted several times. they've interviewed several marshals that were work in that case.

Right. And then here it is I, Bobby Lettiger, working with an analyst who worked with me, we tracked down and locate this guy and Evans and all these great people from the task force that worked on that case. Right. Didn't arrest them. It was us. So, you know, that all went on.

But now to go backwards to add to it, that person, the perp, Oswald Lewis. was who made the complaint against me and other marshals of police brutality and racism that was finally dismissed that but it was going to go forward in eastern New York as a trial against us that he was suing us while he's in jail and it's like you just you can't make this stuff up what was going on and this is all in my life this is my life for almost five years complete hell and people are like, how did you, and only a couple people said, I would have killed myself to go through what you're going through. And you're like, no, I'm not going to kill myself. You know, it's almost like, it's like a badge of honor, you know, when I'm accused

of all these things from people and I almost try to simulate it to those people who made all these accusations against me are like stolen valor. Right. You know, they've done nothing, you know. and they have to come take me down to get something. And, you know, these people that I worked with that did all these bad things, you know, they wear the t-shirt of the job I did. Right. You know, and I give my dad my t-shirts

because he's proud of me and not them. Okay. Anything good with that or? Yeah, that's good. Yeah, there's a lot of good points. We're good? Yeah. All right.

I'll wrap it. Well, one, I appreciate you coming out, making the drive. How far was it? Um, it was like an hour and a half. It was almost, I think it was like 99 miles. But you don't think of it because I'm just down south, you know, in Sarasota. So I'm like, oh, it tamper's an hour. Yeah.

So. No, and it's all, it's, it's, it's, I 75. But this is better anyway doing it. I like you, it's a better relationship. Yeah. talking like that, you know, and I'm all open. I mean, I'll, these are great. This is great for me, you know, for me and for you, you know, even if you had Q&A and talk about other thing. And look, I'm even open. I'm close by. If you got talks you want to do to bounce things off

as like, as from a cop point to your point, be like, what do you think? You know, I'll debate with your own things or whatever, man, you know. I was just thinking, it's funny, this. No, never mind. I was going to say, say this might be the the public information officer for Okeechobee Sheriff's Department because I'm actually supposed to interview the sheriff of Okeechobee County Sheriff's Office on a story I'm writing. So I was going to say they were going to call me today. I'm never getting phone calls during the day.

So when it was ringing, I was like, that's probably the public because he's calling me to schedule it. But it's funny too how things turn out. out like I do talks in front of law enforcement, I, you know. Well, I get that now too is I have some stuff on LinkedIn, like these people call me and they're like, hey, will you talk this? Like people, and I'm blown away by it. And maybe because maybe I'm cold-hearted in a way, but I'm like, I'm not going to kill

myself, you know? I'm like, I didn't go to drugs. I didn't go to alcohol or medication. And I didn't go to religion. I'm not, you know, I am who I am and that's it. Maybe I say things and I shouldn't say them, but I say what I say and I own it, you know. Well, you said people call you from. People call me and they ask me to talk to other people who are in a tough spot.

Right. And it seems like a lot of veterans and it's really heartbreaking to hear it and for what they go through. And I feel, you feel horrible because you see the way it is today with law enforcement. And I can't believe in America is how much we discredit the military guys and girls. Right. And like military people, especially if they were in special programs like military police or any kind of rescue squad in the military, like special forces or anything, they should be given the top of the list to join the police departments back here or the fire departments. You know, we should not be recruited, just going to, you know, to Harvard to get somebody to be a cop. These guys and girls earned it and they should, they should be given a job right away.

Right. And they don't. And then you come back to America when they're overseas. And these military guys and girls have the toughest time in the world to get their gun permits, to carry a gun in the country that they defended. Right. And why? And everybody wants to put these tags on them.

Well, they got PTSD. Really? You know, try to stand a post for eight or ten hours, you know, protecting other people. Right. Just that in itself, protecting the front gate of an overseas base. is glorious to what happens here in America. Yeah.

And it's depressing. It's to go backwards again to talk about Whitney Houston singing in a national anthem in 1991. Like, what happened? Why did our politicians do this to us? I don't know. Listen, I went into prison.

13 years later, I came out and it's just such a vastly different world. Like, imagine being removed for 13 years. When iPhones came out, there were no iPhones. Right. I go to prison. I come out. Everybody's walking around staring at their phone. Nobody talks to each other. Nobody wants to work. Kids don't want to work. Like, I couldn't wait to work.

Kids don't want to get their driver's licenses. They don't want to. It's like it's, it's insanity. And people don't know how to talk to each other. They don't know. You know, there's so many, you know, the things that people argue over are, you know, initially when I hear the arguments, I kind of scoffed it off and kind of laughed about it, you know. And, and now they're so, passionate about things that seem so irrelevant and it's like are you serious like like do you guys know that China's probably going to invade Taiwan right you know that there's that Russia's invading you know it has invaded um what do I want to say Chechnya Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine like you know there's like other things that are

going on there are bigger problems you know you're you know we're in trouble we're in trouble as a country. Our military has been dismantled. Oh, man, it's dismantled. And you need to spend so much money on things like that. And again, and where's the pride and want, like I went in the Navy when I was 17. I loved it. I had, I loved it. And let's revisit some, some other things. Like, if you want to change the criminal justice system, let's invite criminals joining the military instead of going to jail at certain things. Let's revisit that. Let's make things happen out there.

Instead of focusing only on, you know, listen to the sports figures tell us how to live our lives. Right. Or entertainers. You know, it's silly. It's very silly, you know? I mean, they were, yeah, it's dumbest stuff. Thanks, but I didn't look at them.

I mean, like you're going to explain the whole thing anyway, and I have a brief understanding of what happened, but honestly I've been absolutely booked the last few days so on the last week or so but I mean my basic understanding of the of I don't know what it's not like I really typically just I typically do like true crime stuff I don't know if you looked at the channel or anything I yeah searched around a little bit you know my whole thing is trying to get my story out there and trying to get to get to bigger platforms, you know, like reaching up to you got to you and telling it because

it's just insane like what people say. Right. But I get what you're saying and I looked you up a little bit too to see your background. Right. And being my background, it's an odd thing too is I arrested a Ponzi schemer years and years ago and his name was from New York, Long Island, but his family, his parents, but his parents lived in Spring Hill, Florida. Okay.

And I had to send the marshals there, but we're not me with the U.S. Attorney's Office and to revoke the bond and seize the parents' house. Oh, man. To scumbag move. Right. Well, I mean. But he's a scum, you know. Yeah, yeah.

But, I mean, it's, you know, the problem is, is that, like, if you're the victim, silent mode, no, on, if you're the victim of that, you know, then, you know, obviously you're trying to claw back as much money as possible. So if he bought his parents' house with the money well I mean look I'm sorry your son's a scumbag but we're trying to get this retiree as much money back that he stole this money

from a retiree or something like well he did good he was good for a while he scored like $250, $300 million you know and whatever he was doing but it was him and his girlfriend kind of wife and you know

don't let people on bail man, you can't, you can't do it if you're gonna, he's on trial in Brooklyn and then he, um, he fled. Yeah. Do you leave the country? Yeah, he went to, we went up to Canada. Oh. And, um, but we hit his cell phone and hit him, he was hanging out. He, he, he turned his phone on and, uh, in a subway deli store, you know, like a fast food place. Right. And, uh, boom, we had his phone and then Montreal police went in there and it snagged them up. Yeah. And then, you know, it takes extradition as a pain in the ass and it took us a few months to go up there and get him and came back. But what was really sad about the whole story is that his father was a loyal

father and then his father died after they seized his house. Like he just he destroyed his own family. Oh yeah. So his last few six months or a year, it's yeah, your house is being your thrown in jail, you're... Yeah. Yeah, I understand. I've been that disappointment, so... But that was like the most intense criminal investigation case I ever did. Otherwise, I just worked warrants and worked the street up in New York and part of the task force

and then just went off the, you know, street savages. Right. You know, savages completely. I've been in shootings, fights, everything. you know, but you know, you can tell that, you know, clean, clean business crime. Yeah. Well, it always, it always killed me when, you know, like you talk to these guys, these white collar guys that where the marshals show up and they pull their guns and they scream

and holler and they're just like, what the fuck is going on? Like, whoa, like I filled out some paperwork. Like, I don't have a weapon. Like, I get it if you've got a history of violence and stuff. But, you know, it's the whole overwhelming. force or he's funny there's a guy Rashi

I forget his name and it was in New York and like he was a Wall Street guy and it was like half a billion dollars something outrageous and for him they came and they like knocked on the door and they were like listen you got to come with us

you know they were real nice and they he was upset because like they parked in front of my building and was like parked in front of your building like you still laugh at me or you were accused of Marshall doesn't know whether it's valid or not you know they don't know like i was giving it or what i got to get this guy they said he's a bad guy he's got to come to yeah so yeah he was he was upset because like oh they had they had uh their their lights on they embarrassed me i'm like they they didn't pull their

guns they didn't kick in your door they didn't grab you when you were you know what i'm saying like he he he was complaining that he had been treated unfairly and it was probably the most fair arrest that i'd ever seen you know like When they, who came from me? Secret Service, they didn't even call the Marshals for me. The Secret Service just staked out the house for like three days and then they pulled up and jumped out. Well, a lot of these agencies, they don't want to turn over the cases to the marshals because if they work it's so long, they want to have, you know, the success of making the arrest. But unfortunately, some of them can't.

And that's where they call it, turn it over to the marshals. Like, we had a great, we have a great work in relationship with, like, DEA and ATF, you know. But there's, you know, they're out in the street every day. They're building cases all day long And they actually don't have the time To do surveillance and go get to perp Right You know, they have so much other stuff to do

Yeah, and I was just say in my case Like they knew exactly They were given an address Yeah, you were there I was there like they're gonna watch it They actually watch I actually had was staying in a hotel With we'd had a robbery

And so you know We weren't staying there anymore And we were staying in a hotel But and the local sheriff's department Or police department just They knew we'd had a robbery So they called and said said, hey, can you meet us there so we can get the surveillance tapes?

And I said, sure, no problem. And I pulled up because they'd watched it for three days. They were like, this guy, where's the guy? He's not here. And so I showed up and they pulled up. But it was funny too because they, the secret service, the FBI wasn't, the FBI had an indictment out of Florida. Secret Service had one out of Georgia. And like they weren't cooperating.

Yeah. And so, you know, with each other. And so I don't know if they didn't want to call the marshals. I'm not sure when they finally grabbed me. I know that it was so funny. I had called the FBI agent when I was on the run at one point just to see if I could turn myself in. Like maybe I could get to deal or something. And I was talking to her.

And at one point, I said, okay, she was going to call you as attorney and see what he could work out. And she said, I said, well, okay. And she says, well, here, just give me your phone number, which I'm sure she already had. you know, like I called on a cell phone. She was, give me your phone number, and I'll call you back. And I said, you're probably tracking this call. I said, I'm going to shut the phone. I'll call you back.

She goes, oh, get over yourself. She's not that important. And I was like, yeah, like, who do I think I am? You know, and I was like, you stop watching TV. Yeah. And I was thinking, no, you know what? I'm going to, I just feel like, no, I'm going to. So I said, no, you know what?

I'll call you back in an hour. She was, okay, I hung up the phone, turned it off. Later, when I got to prison, I ordered my Freedom of Information Act. And I found out that she immediately called the marshals. The marshals called like Verizon. Verizon said that phone number was just issued to a phone that was purchased at, it was like a 7-Eleven that was connected to like a, um, a subway, uh, sub sandwich place. And I was sitting in the subway this whole time.

I waited the whole time. And they immediately issued two marshals to drive to that location. And I just happened to leave before they got there. How long ago was your case? That would have been 2000. That would have been that specific thing happened in 2005. Yeah, those days are over. That's not happening anymore.

And the government does it to themselves. They just screwed themselves with reporting so much to the courts and everything. Because now you can't do that. Now you have to have a full-blown search warrant to go after a phone. Really? Oh, my God. Oh, it's funny too. Because back in a day where you could do a lot more on it,

you had existence circumstances to pull up, you know, to work with. It's funny how you mentioned Verizon and different companies that we had a good work in relationship with, but now because of politics get involved and, you know, the way the current events are. Right. It's, you can't do that anymore. And it's funny because you know what hurt law enforcement with TV and the media and even things like this, these conversations.

It's like they use it to sell. you know, watch law and order and you hear all the language, that's law enforcement language. So they have law enforcement representatives there who are retired and giving them the good street lingo, you know, and now you see the movies, you know, it's all there. So you can't do that anymore. You have to, you know, make a report. The agent would have to go to the U.S. attorney. They have to draw up a complaint issue for a search warrant.

By that point, the guy is way, long gone, long gone. And now the big cup of it, they put two guys in the car immediately. And they still miss me. But I mean, who knows, if I had stuck around five more minutes, they might have grabbed me. And it's funny, too, because I didn't know I was writing my memoir when I had ordered all this documents, right? So I kept saying it was a track phone, track phone. I forget what I was referring to. And when I actually got the documents in, I actually saw, like, they had the phone number.

They had like it was, whoever it was like Virgin or Verizon, whoever it was, I was like, oh, wow. like it was so you can only go back so far now because you're not allowed to look at so much information and it's the same thing like trying to do your IP address on your your computer the computer that is what they won't they won't you have to have to have a warrant you have to search warrant to get any of that stuff now it's hard it's real hard