Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Ex Dealer Shares Secrets, Profits, And Insane Stories

Episode Date: February 8, 2023

Henderson Norris shares his story on how he ended up in federal prison and what he's doing now.

You invest 18,000. You cook it up and you sell it. What do you make? You're going to, we're seeing almost 70 grand off of a key. How long does that take? Probably a week and a half, two weeks. Hey, this is Matt Cox. And I'm here with Norris Henderson.

And we're going to be doing an interview. I was actually, I was locked up in the halfway house. Were we in Coleman? Yeah, we had Coleman together too. Yeah, Coleman. the halfway house together. Okay, anyway, um, so check this out. So, you, well, you were locked up for like, like over 10 years, right? I didn't, I didn't, I didn't nine years of some change. Right, but what'd you get? 135 or something, you said? Yeah. Um,

okay. So, and what was the, what was the, what was the, what we charged with? Uh, drug trafficking and furtherance of a, uh, drug trafficking in furtherance of a, drug trafficking crime, crack cocaine, you know, pistol charge, you know, they get a 924C, so they're going to run everything concurrent, well, consecutive. Right. So, you know what I'm saying? Okay, all right, well, so where, let's start at the beginning, like, where were you born? St. Petersburg, Florida.

Okay. Most of my, you know, my family, we migrated from Georgia, my family, my mom and everything. Everybody came to Florida, you know, I was born in, I was born in Florida, though, St. Petersburg, Florida. I'm like, so like my roots is Georgia and North Carolina, you know what I'm saying? How many, how many kids in your, any brothers or sisters? Yes, I got, I got two brothers, two sisters. They're all older than me. I'm the youngest.

You know, they all got the same father, so I have my, I got a different father than them. you what did you and you with uh high school and everything in st pete yeah i went to boga high school i played basketball i didn't play football but you know i played basketball and shit all right so how was i mean how was growing up were you a good kid or what you know mean i was but you know i still still got a little trouble you know what i'm saying time of time you know i guess i guess i don't know i guess i don't know i guess probably remember Maybe my dad would have been there for me. It would have been a little better for me, you know what I mean?

Right. But, you know. Were your, I mean, were your older brothers and sister? Were they gone when you were growing up? Oh, they were there. They were there? So they're not like 10 or 50. Like, my brothers and sisters were basically, by the time I was like six or seven,

they were all gone because they were way older than me. No, we all grew up in the same household. So we're all like a year or two apart from each other. okay so how did um how did you start like you went to high school did you start were you selling drugs then or like yeah that kind of i kind of like that was like the start you know what i'm saying like like like i didn't have more than really have much money so it was like you know it's five of us she took her off five of us so it's like you know i used to steal that store to make money to buy clothes and shit you know what i'm saying breaking cars and

shit but you know my my first my first gig for hustling was like one of my OGs gave me a gave me a ounce of marijuana showed me how to sack it up you know I'm saying so he's just saying okay you make you make $40 you bring me back 60 you feel I'm saying so all my little homies we we all smoked weed so it's like that's how that's how I was getting off it you know what I'm saying I'm bringing his money brain but it was like shit I that was like too slow right so like my neighborhood where i live at 36th street block it's like it's it's a it's like a dope hole like it's a one long street you can come through there you can buy crack powder

weed it wasn't no hair wrong back then that i knew of but it was mostly cracking crack marijuana and cocaine you know what i'm saying so my ogee i know that it's just it's a female her name her name fee i'm gonna call her fee you know what i'm saying she's a big dope deal in the city you know i used to i used to run around her sons and you know we play together basketball and she her son so i knew she i knew she sold crack so i pulled it up on her one day i had my last like 30 dollars on me i went to her house you know what i'm saying i'm like hey man let me get something feet you know what you're talking about i said man i need some crack shit she said nigger what you smoking i'm like hell no i said man i try to get

about hustle on and so she came out with this big sucker crack right man boy man she had rock so big like this big and she was like all you do you know you take one you bust it down and you sell it for ten dollars i'm gonna sell them to you for ten dollars a piece so you just break it down and you'll make more than money you just come back and see me so once i broke it down it was like i was getting like four dollars off each rock i'm spending ten dollars but i'm making a third of all the profit of each one. So I got like three of them from them. I broke them down. I made like $9.

at all. I went to the hood. I went to my block because she only stayed a couple of streets over. So I got to my hood. It was like, shit. I broke them thing down. I had $90 $90 worth of rock. So man, those things went so fast. I went by tour the next day. She's like, you got off

all that that quick? I'm like, yeah, let me get, let me get nine of them. So she actually gave me 10 for my money because you know I'm on my way to come you know what I'm saying so I broke them down boom boom boom boom shit I ain't looked back six and this was the 90 95 no it's like 93 because I was still in high school so I was able to get me some clothes get me some fresh shoes you know what I'm saying so so I have a question so when you say like you're just selling to people that are just driving through the neighborhood they're

looking for crack they're just coming you're not finding it going finding but they're just driving through. Yeah, because my neighbor has my street. It's just like, it's like a, it's like a dope hole, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's a street. You just pull up. And then you had, then you had smokers walking up, you know, neighborhood smokers, you know what I'm saying? We're going to pull up on

bicycles and shit. Then down the street, it's like a little alleyway, a little small alleyway that go to the next street. You know, we used to post up down there too, me and my little homies. And we just, we just sit there and post up on a block all day and let the money come through and get off it. You know what I'm saying?

Okay. And you said, and you kept going and going, and then what happened? Yeah, I was, you know, what it was, like, I was still playing basketball and shit, you know, in high school basketball. And so, you know, I hustled. And then I had a job, too. I got, I got a job. I used to work at McDonald's, food line, ring Dixie, you know, I kept a job, you know what I was saying? But I was hustling on the side, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, Long story, I graduated. You know, I had plans on going to college and everything, but, you know, I had caught a felony,

pulled around with one of my home books, you know what I'm saying? So I caught this felony, so it was like, that kind of fucked up my college scholarship. How did that happen? What it was, we were riding in my car. I had just bought me a car, you know what I'm saying? So we were riding in my car, and he was high on cocaine. he in the back seat

it was three or four of us in the car so we were hanging out drinking and smoking you know what I'm saying and the other guy he was like high on cocaine or whatever so I picked them up from another spot but I'm dropping them off I'm taking everybody home and his house is like

two houses down from where I was dropping him off at so he's like no you're going to drop me up in front of my house I'm like drop him from your house man you crazy you get your ass up out of here so he didn't want to get out he was in the back seat behind me So we're driving. I'm going to drop the other guys off. So I dropped one of my homeboys off.

So I'm coming back to drop the other dude off. And he's telling me, man, you've got to drop me up at my house on my front door. I'm like, man, I ain't pick you up from there. So all of a sudden, I had some tools in my back seat on the floor. And he reached over and he stabbed me with a screwdriver in the top of my head. You know what I'm saying? attacking me. The car moving.

and I don't feel it at first. I'm just, I just jumped out. I just turn around and I'm just fighting him in the back seat. I'm beating his ass, you know what I'm saying? So all in all blood running down my head. So the car runs into a, I think a trash can of something and stops. Because I had a stick shift, so it automatically stopped, you know what I'm saying? So I'm beating his ass.

So I get out of the car, I'm bloody and shit. My other home boy, he's standing there. He got a gun on him. I don't know he got the gun on him. So he's telling me, look, man here. No, I'm like, no, I'm straight. The dude running. Then I thought about it.

I told him to give it to me now. And he told me no. And I kind of thank God he didn't give it to me because I would have shot the shit out of his ass while he's running. So I say, fuck it. I get him on a car. I got a crowbar in the trunk. I grab it. And I chase him to his house because he don't stay too far from what an incident happened.

So I get to his house. He inside his house. I'm beating on his mom. door with the crowbar trying to get in there I'm beating all the windows out of the house the garage door and everything and dad come out of the dad I just family know me you know what I'm saying

they see me all bloody and shit they don't know what's going on you know what I'm saying so I just leave they call the police I leave so like probably like three months later I'm at school and a school resource officer come get me

and you say I need you I need you to come up to my office with me. I'm like, what's going on? You know what I'm saying? So I get there and he say, you got to warrant for your rest. I got to take you to the county jail. I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah, you got a warrant

for vandalism and some other charge. It was a misdemeanor one felony, so he'd take me down and book me. And my high school basketball coach, Mr. Kieffel, he'd come down and see me, he asked me what's going on. I explained to him what happened, you know what I'm saying?

So he, I did, He didn't bomb me out. They gave me R&R, release of my own reconnaissance. So I get out, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, I didn't have no lawyer. I didn't know them about lawyer, you know what I'm saying? So it was like, I got a public defender and I just took a plea deal. And that was probably the worst thing I could have did because it gave me a third-degree felony.

And it fucked up my chance to get a scholarship for basketball. So I'm stuck. I'm like, shit, fuck it. You know what I'm saying? I'm all in. And I just went ahead and started by hustling, you know, and, uh, I, I still graduated, though, you know what I still graduated high school, but it was like, it was like, it was, it was hurting. But at the same time, man, I ain't, I ain't really care anymore, you know what I'm saying. So, like, fuck it. I'm in the streets now, you know, I'm on a block every day. Then I, then like a year later, I decided to enroll in junior college. So I go to junior college. I'm still, I'm still, I'm still getting my education. but I'm still hustling, though, you know what I'm saying? So I'm just, just said, fuck it, man.

I'm all in now, so I'm rising in a dope game, but it's like, like, I'm not seeing the money that I need to see. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to spend it on cars, jury money, you know what I'm saying? This was, like, actually, one of my first cars I hooked up. You know what I'm saying? I put paint on it, some, you know, some rims, you know what I'm saying. Right. So I'm in the street life, you know, it's like, this is what it is now.

Are you, are you watching like your buddies get, get popped or like, are you realizing that, hey, this, that, like, are you seeing people get arrested and you mean, you know what it is? You know, you're going to get, eventually, you know, you're getting grabbed. Yeah, this is, this, like I say, this was in 94, 95 after I graduated. So, like, I'm seeing, I'm seeing people getting knocked off. You know what I mean? But I'm just being, like I didn't hang no, I hung in the crowd, but I didn't hang in the crowd. You know what I'm saying?

Like I got me a beeper, so my clientele called me. So now I'm not. I'm really on the block anymore. I got people calling me. So when they call me, boom, I go meet them, make the money, then I'm not the way, you feel what I'm saying? So how I was moving, I never, I never caught a dope case. I caught one. This, this, me and my, like I was on, after that situation with the,

But the guy who attacked me, you know what I'm saying? I was on probation. I was actually on house arrest, but I was still hustling. So I basically was on house arrest, but I was still leaving, going to get money every day. So one night we're at, we're at Denny's, me and my girl. So we had a Denny's late night, north side St. Pete. So I'm in that same car. I just showed you.

And the sheriff sitting outside the park a lot across the street. So I got crack on me. I got a gun on me. got a reefer so i'm telling her she said you hold the weed i'll cuff the crack and i had a i had a little stashbop for my gun in my car so so we're leaving we're heading we're heading back to south st pete and the man so many sheriffs came out of nowhere man just swam my car boom boom boom they say uh you got you got a warrant for your rent i'm like for what he said you your insurance expired i know how my assurance is inspired because i just paid it

I keep my assurance, you know what I'm saying? So they arrested me, took me to the county jail. When they searched me, they found a crack, but they never found a gun. You know what I'm saying? I had a, where I had the stash by, the gun was hitting real good. So they found a crack on me. So they arrested me. I had so many charges, man.

Like, they hit me with cells and possession, possession of crack. I had one sock of weed. They said, possessing a weed. They gave me seven charges, man, almost, something like that. all felonies damn near. So I'm sitting in the county jail. I'm miserable as hell. I ain't,

you know, I ain't ever been through it like this. It's my second time going to jail. You know what I'm saying? As an adult. So one of the guys in the dorm was like, man, you sit around letting that shit worry,

man, you need to get in the law library. You say you just graduated. You know what I'm saying? So I want to think about it. He's like, man, this is all you do. You look up your charges and go find

out what the first charge they gave you with, and find out if it was legal for them to do that. So I went to thinking, like, I knew my insurance wasn't expired. So that was, that was strike one against them, you know what I'm saying? They violated my constitutional rights. So I looked up some case laws and then it was like the public defender they gave me. All he kept doing was cop out to these charges. I'm like, hell no.

So he was calling my mom, too, let's tell him my mom, look, tell him to take the plea dealer, he's going to get a lot of time, you know what I'm saying? I'm telling my mom, look, I ain't coping out of shit. fuck that shit. So I got in a law library. I wrote all the statues down and wrote what they did wrong and what they could charge me with and what they couldn't charge me with and sent it to the public defender. Boom. I said, man, I need you file this shit. You know what I'm saying? He filed it. Man, like seven days later, I got a mail and I got a letter in the mail when I kind of jail. Man, all the charges dropped except intro or contraband into a county facility. He built some of the nation's largest banks out of an estimated $55 million, because $50 million wasn't enough, and $60 million seemed excessive. He is the most interesting man in the world. I don't typically commit crimes, but when I do, it's bank fraud. Stay greedy, my friends.

Support the channel. Join Matthew Cox's Patreon. They hit me with that, but it gave me, it was a lighter sentence. They gave me, like, probation added on to my house arrest, was already had. So they really just extended it, you feel what I'm saying? They let me out, I'm saying, so I went home, you know, I said, fuck that shit. I'm just going to be way more smarter this time, you know what I'm saying? They ain't going to keep shit on me, you know what I'm saying?

So I just got out and just got back to getting money, man. So, like I said, I had a long run before I really caught a doubt. another case this case i just caught i got i got knocked off in 2013 this happened in 96 97 when i caught that first charge you know what i was i was really i was out slicking these people for years man you know that's how i felt you know right so i know i'm sorry go ahead but so what so your but your but i mean are at this point you got it you got an apartment You have, like, are you, you got a car, apartment, you, like, what's the plan? I'm staying with my mom.

So it's like, you know, I'm still hustling. I ain't, I ain't really got no plan. I'm just living day-to-day getting money. So it was like I ran into one of my old homeboys who I ran the streets with as a jitterbub, you know what I'm saying? We used to get in trouble and shit, you know what I'm saying? As kids. So he just got back from college and he wasn't going back.

So we got us a spot. We got us a spot and we just started trapping, man. You know, selling crack, man. We learned how to, one of the other homie showed us how to cook. We'll take one ounce, blow it up, turn it to two ounces of crack, man. And we just cut that thing up. We get the ounces for like 700. We'll cut the ounces.

Once we cook it up and turn it, turn 28 grams into like 50 grams. We're cutting almost like $2,500 worth of crack off one, of one ounce. So we're doing this now, you know what I'm saying? We're elevating now. Once I got with him, we just came with a game plan, and this is what we're going to do now. Every time we buy ounces, we're cooking it all up,

and we're going to sell it out this goddamn trap house we got. We had a trap house on the south St. On the other side of town of St. Pete, and it's like a neighborhood where you got a number of crackhead, just walk around, gas station right there. And man, look, that thing, that thing's 24 hours, man. Number basis coming in and out of that, man, spending money, man, $5, $10. We're getting everything coming through there.

So that was like my next elevating in the dope game, you know what I'm saying? So it was like, okay, now I'm really seeing money now. You know, I'm sitting on 10, 15,000, like, easy now, you know what I'm saying? But I still don't know. I got enough money to buy a whole kilo. we don't we don't know this we just we're small-time hustlers that's how we can at it but so we just we just deal we had to do right then you know what I'm saying to one of my homies his cousin came and pulled up on us and was like he seen what's buying ounces ounces ounces

he like man y'all got enough do y'all got enough money to buy y'all a whole brick so we we just debated on it for a second because we knew we knew there's a lot of slimy shit going on you know what I'm saying so we didn't want to put all our money at risk like that. So my bro, my bro, my bro, like, man, look here, man. I got another, a Cuban guy he ran into, like, he was like, man, look, he got some good shit. You know what I'm saying?

So we basically started dealing with him, you know what I mean? He was from, uh, Columbia or some goddamn well, Cuban or Columbia or some, some guy that way. I just know he was Spanish, you know what I'm saying? but he was he he started he started looking out for us we was getting was getting probably like paying like 18 close to close to 17 18000 dollars of brick so now it's like okay let's do this here you're you're buying a brick for 18 grand yeah and without yeah we're breaking it all down like breaking out on the ounces and cooking it all

like we're we're not selling nobody know it none of our coke we're cooking it all up and rocking it up letting it let me let me go out this goddamn trap house well how much does eight you you invest 18,000 you cook it up and you sell it what do you make you're gonna you're gonna we're seeing almost 70 grand off of off a key so so how long that's eight man probably a week and a half, two weeks. Fuck. Yeah. Okay. Selling it all crack, you know what I'm saying?

And then, you know, sometimes we've got homie that want, like a half ounce of crack, we'll sell them. But the majority of time, we're cooking everything up, you know what I'm saying? How long does this go on? We did this. We had a nice run, probably about, good two years you know i mean about a good year good one to two years we had a good run you know what it was like we're all grown we're all going apart he he he went back to college so he went he went

ahead and he went he went he rode in uh florida state i think yeah he went to florida state he left he left st pete and he moved he moved to tallahasse and he went and rode in florida so i'm I was going to say, where are you living? Like, what are you driving at this point? Where are you still living? You're not still living at your mom's making. Yeah, I'm, I'm still there, but I'm still, I'm still helping her out, you know what I'm saying, but. Right.

So I had, I bought, I had bought a, you know, I think I got a picture of it in here. I had switched it up. You know what I did with the pictures? Oh, man. I had bought a Chevrolet. Put some candy paint on it. I had some datings on it. I know what I did with the pit.

Let me see if I got these pictures right here. But this is the car I had, like. what are you doing with your money man we partying man partying back clothes you know what I'm saying just just just living it up man you know we was young

you know what I mean like when you're young man you touch that kind of money man and you know you can make you're gonna make it back you know we wasn't giving a fuck right so so you're you're your partner goes back to or he goes back to college what do you what do you do you keep running

the house you keep running the place or what no uh we closed it down and i i got another spot i went ahead and moved into another i found another spot but this time this time i'm by myself you know what i'm saying this was like this was like in 90 like 99 late 99 going into 2000 you know what i mean i came up with another game playing you know but but the plug we had he wasn't he wasn't he wasn't he wasn't i want to say i don't know if he wanted to fuck with us no more because you know he we made it we made him so much money whatever but shit kind of went dry you know what i'm saying so it's like i don't really i don't really trust too many people you know what i'm saying far as spending my spending that kind of money

with people you know what i'm saying but i found my cousin one of my cousins uh he had just got out a federal prison and he knew some people that had some good some good work for so for me you know what mean so so when he got out this is like he got out like 2001 he did like a five year bid federal and he got out like 2001 and he pulled it up on me you know what I'm saying he heard you know he heard through the that I was doing my thing you know what I'm saying so he slid up on me I threw him a couple dollars or whatever help him out you know what I'm saying he was like man just give me a couple of, give me a couple of weeks. Once I get settled in, you know what I mean?

I'm gonna pull up on you. You know, I'm gonna hollad at some people because I know some other people. He knew some Mexicans that had some good shit too, you know what I'm saying? That he was locked up with. But I guess he was, you know, he was just giving himself time, you know what I'm saying,

to get out because he don't know how to, he don't know how the fed is going to work. You know, they're going to watch. Yeah, they're going to watch you when you get out. You know what I'm saying? So, like, man, just chill out. Do your thing, man. Just stay out the way until I get right.

And then we're going to come up with a game plan. You know what I mean? So at the time, I was like, shit, I had, my money had got kind of low. But, you know, I'm still, you know, I still have probably had a few thousand dollars. But that ain't really, that wasn't really no money. But it's being there, I wasn't broke, you feel what I'm saying? And with my hustle, you know what I'm saying? I wasn't worried about, weren't about going broke because I know I can, I know how to flip

money you know what i'm saying even if it was go buy a couple pounds of marijuana break it down and get off it like that just you know just just just flip money you know what saying period everybody ain't got that gift to take a couple of dollars that or that mentality is just okay i can go i can go get these say uh i can go get five pounds for 600 a piece and go over here and sell them for for for 800 a piece right quick like you feel i'm saying and do this and do this in a couple minutes and know who go know who to go see so now you're profit you're profiting a thousand dollars you spot you spot maybe 3500 for a gram but you're going to profit a thousand dollars right quick you feel I'm saying that

we call it a quick flip yeah you know what I mean when you can do this do that and make it a quick flip and get right back you know what I'm saying you do that two times two times a day, maybe, maybe two, three times out of the week, you know, and you just sit back and another thing, too, is money management, you know what I'm saying? When you're in a dope game, you got to know how to manage your money. You know what I mean? You don't manage it, you'll, you'll ball out and be broke. You know, I don't, I don't fail maybe rock bottom twice.

That's because I trusted someone with my money. Not that I blew my money, you know what I mean, I trusted somebody to go. go re-up for me or re-up with me and shit went sour. That's the only time I ever went broke. Where I was hit rock bottom. Other than that, I know when to stop spending money and manage money, you know what

I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I used to talk when I, you know, I taught, you know, I taught the real estate class, right? Uh-huh. And I used to always say, like, you know, these guys, like listen, the drug dealers, like they have that hustle mentality

and in real estate, Like they would do great. Yeah. Because, you know, they're going to neighborhoods that most people won't go into. They don't have a problem talking to anybody. Like, they'll go up to anybody that are talking to them. And most people can't do that. And, you know, they don't mind going in the neighborhood.

They don't mind knocking on doors. They don't mind talking to people. And if they need to come up with some money, even if they only got five grand, they can make three phone calls and get 30 or 40 grand. Yeah. Like they know people that will lend them 10 grand, 5 grand, 7 grand,000. You know, they'll put it together pretty quick. Most people don't have that.

That's if you got to, if you're reliable, like, like you, if you're, I want to say, if you're, your face good, you feel I'm saying? You're not, you're not a slimy motherfucker. You know, everybody know that, okay, then you were hustling ass dude. And, and you know how to go get it. You feel I'm saying? Yeah, you know, you know who you can lend money to. Like, I got a buddy who's getting out of jail.

And it's like, look, if I, you know, if you need a couple thousand, Like I'll, I know I'll give it to him because I know he'll give me the money back. He's good for it. There are other guys I know that they said, hey, can you give me a hundred bucks? I'd be like, yeah, man, I can't. I'm not giving you nothing. You ain't never going to pay me back. No.

You're all right. You're funny. I like hanging out with you, but you're a bottomless pit. So it's best to say, hey, man, I'm going to give you this here. And you just, you ain't got to pay me that back. You know what I'm saying? so what what so what happened how does this thing like how do they like are your buddy at this point are there any close calls is anybody coming like people around you getting busted like you

your buddies get busted you my city is like people like people still go to jail state charges but but back then like you rarely we rarely seen people go federal unless you was really doing it big you feel what I'm saying? So it was like guys are catching dope cases, boom, they're going to state prison. Boom, catching dope game going to state prison. Like, I avoided that shit for so many years, man. So

I guess how I moved and how I operated, it wasn't like I was leaving paper trails anyway either. Are you hanging out with, are you just hanging out with like regular working class stiffs or are you hanging out with other drug

dealers? bring out with a drug dealers you know what I mean but when I go to the club I'm by myself I pull up a league I'm by myself you know what I'm saying we all the guys I feel like myself

we're all the same we're all the same way so it's like we all we all had our own cars you know we all have plenty bitches and we all had our money so it's like hey what's up what we're doing tonight we meet at the club you feel we all meet up

at the club we never really get together and ride in the same car to the club. Feel what I'm saying? We'll all meet up, you know? So then it was like, after I sold that Chevrolet,

I had bought this car right here. I bought one of these. The North Star Cadillac. Right. So it was like, I sold that, bought that car. You know what I'm saying? At the same time,

I'm still waiting on my cousin to come through. You know what I'm saying? saying with this plug but you know i i i would just like like like me like i knew like round this time of year it'd be indictment season you know i hear that too much like when november hit it's time to kill the fuck out you feel what i'm saying right that's when they that's when the fans come and do their sweep and i was seeing that on a regular now you know what i mean like this time of year okay i i know to chill the fuck out i could spend a spend a couple dollars and you know but i I still know how to manage money.

I knew how to make a play. Okay, I can make a play for $1,000. I'm going to sit my ass down again, you know what I mean, and get out the way, you know. I go to the club. I ain't blowing a lot of money, you know. I know how to come to the club and hang out a little bit. You know, just stay out the way, you feel I'm saying?

So I did go back to the junior college, St. Pete Junior College, you know, and try to brush up on my education and see if I can try to earn a basketball scholarship. scholarship at the same time, you know what I'm saying? That ain't work out. Like I got out there and I played good. It was like the, it was a black coach. He was assistant coach. He knew me from growing up playing in the rec leagues and stuff. And he was becoming the next head coach at St. Pete Junior College. And it was a Caucasian coach. He was leaving. And I introduced myself to me when they had the tryouts he said man i like your game and i really want you a bore you know what i'm

saying but the other coach the black coach was like i don't know what he said to him but it's like he lost interest in interest in me i don't know if he he might have told him he knew me for selling dope you feel what i'm saying that's how that's that's what my mentality it was because i know he he knew what's going on in the streets you know his sons his son's probably telling him what's going on, you know. But he didn't know that that was like my way of wanting to get out the hood and get out the city, you know, play ball and try to get a scholarship, man. I really want to go to the NBA, man, like real, real shit.

Like my game, like Highfield, my heart, man, I know I could have made it in the league if I got a chance, you know what I'm saying? But it kind of hurt that my own, it was like my own kind. ain't really want to help me, feel what? He's served over a decade in federal prison for bank fraud, and he still owes the government $6 million in restitution, but he's good for it. He is the most interesting man in the world.

I don't typically commit crime, but when I do, it's bank fraud. Stay greedy, my friends. Support the channel, join Matthew Cox's Patreon. I mean, I had to take it for what it was, And then it was crazy, like, because I called my grandmother up in North Carolina. She stayed in Greensboro, New Carolina. And I used to talk to her and tell her what happened.

And she was like, baby, just come up here. You know what I'm saying? So we actually had a family reunion up there. And I flew up there with my mom and them and shit. I let my uncles and told them what was going on. He was like, man, just come on up here. You can kind of get in school up here. so I went back and I thought about it so I shit I packed the U-Haul up put my put my

car on the trailer shit and hit it one of my home boys are his name Oscar down for he used to play for North Carolina Tar Hills he played football quarterback that year it was his last year year seen year so he was he was in St. Pete for that weekend he was he needed a way back up there I said shit come on shit we we took turn driving so we drove from St. feet in the North Carolina so I get up there I get settled in I took my I grabbed my my school transcripts I went to no Carolina A&T campus and hollered at hollied at the coach but what I did when I got there first I went to play ball they had a gym open so it was like an open open open you know just just pre-recking out there so I'm like they're killing the guys out

there man so some of the players who uh who was on the team they asked me who I was where I'm from, you know, I introduced myself and everything. Like, man, you need to, you need to try out, you know what I'm saying? So I leave, I leave to, I had to run in my car for something. I think I went to got my paperwork that came back in, and one of the guys took me to the office, I was where you go register at. So I'm in there. I'm talking to, I think this guy was, the assistant coach or something for the team.

He's a white guy, but he was, he, he, the guys were telling about me. And he was, he was really trying to be so helpful to get me registered and get me, get me trying out and try to get me on the team, you know what I'm saying? Right. Like, they had a head black coach. He didn't want nothing to deal with me. Like, like, this was the, this was the most hurting feeling. It was like, it was like deja vu all over again. You feel what I'm saying?

I'm like, damn, like, my own kind of want to help me. Like, what the fuck? I got, I got the white guy with him. and break his back to help me, he see the potential, but I got, I got my own kind, I want to help me. So it was like, damn, man, what the heck? Like, I want to talk to my grandmother about it. She's like, I don't know what you want to do with me, but whatever you make your mind to do, I support you. So, so Granny was like, shit, what are you going to do? I'm like, you know, my son had just been born. He was like, going, he was like 11 months old.

I wouldn't have to think about all of that. You feel, I'm saying? So it was like, so, granted man i got to get back to the city man i packed up i packed up everything in my car i just hit it told um man i holl at them holl at them and just hit the road i stopped in alana on my way back hollied at my cousin he was he was standing in lana then i then after i left him i hit i hit back to st pete so it was like damn what i'm gonna do now first thing smoking i hollied because he was already doing his thing he got out

by this point he had already got out of he'd already got out of prison right so so he was he was doing his thing and I had I had like three four thousand dollars cash I went straight to him

and like man look I'm ready I'm ready to get some paper man fucking I'm back fuck that college shit this at the time this was like 1999 going on 2000 early 2000s

like fuck it let's go so he he break me off for my four grand and I just I just I went in his spot actually and cooked up all the crack because he sold me powder I cooked it all up

went back to my mom's house chilled that and then I just broke everything down to rocks man and just you know cell phones had to start being popular then you know what i'm saying started coming out so everybody was getting cell phones now so i just i just rode around through the city different dope holes and still in clientele i said i'll pull up on a smoker and give him a little sample hey man he'll my number call me you know anybody wants something called me you know what i'm saying next thing i know my phone ringing

nine it was like shit let's go so now now i'm now i'm back at it now so So I'm like, shit, I ain't got no plan, but this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to make money. So I'm ride around all day. I went and bought a little hoopty to ride around to sell my dope in. I'm ride around all day. Just selling crack out of car, you know what I mean? How long does this go on?

This went on, about six months, six, seven months, almost a year. You know, I'm sticking and moving, you know what I mean? So I'm like, shit, I'm coming up with another game playing, but at the same time, it was like, I'm comfortable with what I got going on now. You know what I mean? So this is like 2001, 2001. I'm sliding real good. So now it's like another one of my partners that I ran the streets with as a youngster.

he pulled up on me, you know, he said he got, he got another plan, you know what I'm saying? Do I want to end on it? Like, what you're talking about? Like, so we sat down, we talked about it. It was a plan that shit, he had a cousin that was going to front him some keys. He won a certain price for a certain price for them. And all he wanted us to do was get rid of them and whatever we made, we made this with this price. Shit, I can help do that.

I ain't got to spend my money. shit let's go so he was he was giving it to us for like 15 grand 15 16 grand at the time it was some good coke it wasn't the best but it was some good coke so we were breaking them all down to ounces and i and uh we call them interstates that's four and a half you know what i'm saying we didn't we didn't sell them home we didn't sell them halves we wanted he said four and a halfs and ounces that's how we're getting rid of the four and a half's what we'll do we'll take four four ounces and we put 14 grams of cut on each one each four ounces and then we'll take the other other ounces that we break down we'll put like 25 grams in each one

and put three grams of cut in it so we're basically making extra money now right now Once we do that, we're seeing close to 33,000 off each key, right fast, though. You feel what I'm saying? We're doing this shit fast. So he'll bring us three, he'll bring us two or three bricks at a time. We'll do this. We're getting off them. We do about a week.

It was about a week. You know, St. Pete, St. Peter's a small city, but, man, it's money circulating in it. So we're doing this. We're doing it. We're doing two, three keys a week, easy. so so so once once we got this going now now i don't got my i don't i don't bounce back so i'm able to buy my own now he able to buy his own now we tell him look you ain't got to front us no more let us let us buy let's buy on and you know we'll keep it pushing so we don't have to

owe him that's that that was our mentality now we do what we got to do pump up and we'll buy own now you know what i'm saying all right so now so now we're we're we're we're we're we're doing our thing now so actually and then my home boy he catch he catch a he catch a case so he had he had his uh he had his house one night and somebody breaking the house and he ended up killing him you know what I'm saying they know the person who broke in yeah and trying to find out it was actually somebody who he was close to that he was that he was that he was cool with you know what man right do he used to come over to hang out with him and smoke and drink then you know kind of find out, because this ain't, this, this ain't happened just one time. It happened like multiple

times because he'd tell me, he's like, man, somebody had broken the house last night while I was in here. I said, man, I got to be somebody that's comfortable with you. You feel what I'm saying? Right. He, he, he didn't, he never, he didn't have a doubt it was me, you know what I'm saying? But he used to have a lot, a few guys over from that neighborhood where his house was at. So, so we're kind of fine out. The dude was leaving, dude was, because his house was, the house where you're staying, kind of big. so he was he kind of find out the dude was leaving the window open and he sneak in because he know you know my dog he get drunk he get high you know he pass out he'd be he sleep hard

you know what I'm saying so so that night that shit happened it was like when when he killed him he put the dude had a mask on when he pulled a mask off on him he was he was just shocked like he couldn't believe he couldn't believe he couldn't believe that I was a dude who was doing it. Like I said, this shit happened multiple times, you know, but you're only going to get away with something for so long, you know what mean? Right.

Especially if some tiny shit, you know what I'm saying? Especially when you're cool with a dude and you started breaking in his house, thinking it's, thinking it's cool, you're going to eventually get caught. You know what I mean? And that's what happened. Well, what, I mean, what, I mean, he called the police? Was he charged? Yeah, he was charged with murder.

But, you know, he got a good lawyer and he ended up beating it. You're going to say, the guy broke in his house. Yeah. But, man, they wasn't trying to hear that shit, man. They charged him with murder, man. Like, St. Pete, man, this shit fucked up, man. They charged him with the murder, you know what I'm saying? He paid like $50,000 for the lawyer, and he ended up beating it.

He ended up getting probation for the gun. you know what I'm saying so that was like a blessing you know like a real real blessing so you know after he beat the case you know what I'm saying he just he just killed the fuck out you know for me I just I just I kind of separated I still fuck with him but I kind of separated myself from the situation because I know shit was hot you know what I mean he just beat this case So I know, I know it won't be long, you know what I mean? They're going to, they're going to still watch him. They know, they know he wasn't, he was doing something for him to break in there, you know what I mean?

Yeah. So I kind of, I kind of faded away in my own corner, you know, just fell back, you know what I mean? And then I ran into one of my other cousins. This was like in 2003. I ran into my other cousin who got out of affairs, who did a good affair. he did like 10 years he just getting out and he was he was he was he was ready to get some money as soon as he got out but you know i was i was skeptical about fucking with him at first you know what i'm saying but he he he he used cocaine though you feel what i'm saying he was he was he was he was

he was a user he a hustler but he was a user though so like so he pulled it up on me you're like man you straight i'm like no i ain't got nothing right now but you know what I'm saying like you ain't be having nothing like i've been chilling like shit i know some people's you know what you mean like i know some people like that i be having some good shit so i got with him like probably like a couple weeks later i go over to the house and he got he got he got some mexicans over there so they all they all over there chilling and he introduced me to him and everything and he was telling me how they they got they got they got more whatever we want, you know what I'm saying?

Whatever I want, you know what I'm saying? So we actually went to the club. I ain't really do no business with them at first. We just, we just hung out. You know what I'm saying? We went to Tampa, hung out a few clubs. You know what I mean? Spent the time.

I got, I just, I sat by and got a chance to know them first. So around this time, it's like 2004, 2005 year. So I say, I'm ready, man. What we're going to do? So they hit me up. they come to my house you know what I'm saying at this at this time I had them bought me a house and everything you know I bought the house right direct close from my mom's house I got a fine ass though so I got my own house now and everything so they come over to my house we sitting right there

chopping it up he's telling me what he want for him he wanted he he wanted like eight he won't like 18 5 at first that's what the price was going for like 18 18 5 for me first once he's seen that that I was coming back you know what I'm saying consistently the prices started dropping you know what I'm saying so I'm basically like okay I bought I bought the first one

you know I already knew who to go through and get rid of this shit now you know what I'm saying I ain't no more selling no more crack right it's ounces and four ways you know what I'm saying I'm I got I got I got these guys in this neighborhood I got four different guys in different neighborhoods

who I can go to and they're going to buy that shit immediately. So I get rid of the first brick I buy from. I call him back like the next day. You're like, you're doing already? I'm like, yeah, man, that shit ain't that shit. That shit went flat because it's good. You know what I'm saying? So he comes back.

I buy one. He leave me one. All right. He said, I'm going to give you a couple more days, you know what I'm saying, see what you can do. Shit. That's shit. shit, them two was gone within 24 hours, too. I was like, shit, I can do so.

I can get used to this shit. Hey, I'm doing this shit in 24 hours. I'm making his money and my money now. Like, this shit, this 24-hour clockwork, like, less than 24 hours. This shit gone, so. So I, I like, shit, I called him back up. He's like, man, I ain't going to be back until next week. Just hold the money down, you know what I'm saying?

So he came back to next week. man he came when he came back in he had five of them for me so I paid I paid for one I paid for two actually and he gave me three he's like this here man don't rush just take your time because he's like man you know money called him getting rid of this shit right so

so I'm at my house I'm looking like shit I ain't never had as much work at one time you know I got five, five bricks in right here in front of my face. Like, really like, okay, shit. This is what I'm going to do. I'm going to keep, put one up. I'm going to take these four and break all these down. I did two of them in four ways, and two of them I did straight ounces,

like, ounce of my 20 grams, each ones. I was selling them for, like, I was selling an ounce of, like, $1,000. And I was selling the four ways for, like, $3,300. even though I'm still putting putting 14 grams on the four ways making it making it four to a half you know what I'm saying so I'm sending them 30300 I'm sending ounces

for a stack man I got rid of them five bricks with them four bricks within like I want to say like five days it took me like five days you know what I'm saying because the guys who I was dealing with they already had work that they just got from me So it went, you know what I mean?

So like that next week when he popped up, you know what I'm saying? I got all his money counting out, boom, boom, boom. I got all mine put up. I'm telling him, man, what's up? What we're going to do next? He's like, shit. What you want to? You want to double this shit up or you want to just stay doing this shit here?

I'm like, no, I'm going to stick. Like, bring me five. I want to do five again. You know what I'm saying? So I said, this is what we're going to do, though. I'm going to sell some of these holes. I'm going to sell two of them and I'm going to break the other three down

because I knew a couple guys who was ready to buy holes, you know what I'm saying? So what they'll do, they'll grab his money, his money, his money, his money, and they'll patch it up. You feel I'm saying? You buy the hole. But what I do, this time go around,

I would take four and a half out of each brick and put four and a half back into the brick. and I would mush it all together and then I will compress it back together and basically re-rock it, you feel what I'm saying? So now I can take, now I can do this here out of each brick and put away a four-way out of each brick. Actually, I was taking like a hundred and about a hundred and a hundred,

about a hundred and twelve grams out of each brick, basically. Instead of 125 grand, I take a hundred and twelve out of each brick. So it would still be good. So I put them back together, boom, boom, boom, get rid of, get rid of my hole now. He giving them to me for like 18. After I take mine out of that back together, I would sell it for like 23,000. So I'm capping five grand, close to five grand of each one, and I'm cuffing like four ounces out of each one. So that's like $9,000 profit, basically, off of each key.

So I'm doing it. I'm doing this to every key now, you feel what I'm saying? So now I ain't, I ain't, I ain't even breaking them down, breaking them down in ounces no more for what I did. How long you, so how long is this going on? This going on for like two years, I had a good two, two, three year run. Are you on anybody's radar at this point? Like, I mean, do you think?

I don't know it. I am, but I don't know it. Okay. How did you get on their radar? like somebody got busted or basically yeah this is how i got on the radar in 2000 in 2005 i think it was i sold i sold a female two ounces of crack not knowing about a 5k i don't know i'm green i'm green to federal system right i sold her two ounces of crack she called me back and she wanted two more.

So I sell them to her. I want to be not sold to her because I consider her like family. Because we grew up in the same neighborhood. And she had already been busted? No, her sons, her kids' father did.

Oh, okay. All right. So he called a federal case. And he was in a pen. I think he had a life sentence if I'm mistaken. And she's trying to get them out by working for the DEA.

Exactly. Right. That's third party. Third party rule 35. Oh, five. They call it 5K. So I don't know. I don't know they're on to me.

I sell her this, boom, boom, boom. I can't be pushing. So now I'm elevating. I'm selling keys now. She don't come by from me no more. I find that like, still that this happened in this like i say this happened 2005 2006 this going on 2009

I'm still doing my thing like I got I got them coming in like I got these bricks coming in 10 a week I'm doing 10 a week now easy I don't want no more than that I tell the man bring me 10 and I'm a dude I'm I'm gonna pay for five you you you leave me five and everything's insured now you know what I'm saying my money up I'm sitting on I'm sitting on three 300,000, 400,000 easy now. You know what I'm saying? So whatever they bring me is insured. So these years, these few years going by,

I'm still, back in my mind, like, damn, she ain't never come back and buy for me no more. What the fuck she got going on? You know what I mean? I hollered at my homeboys in my neighborhood, and I tell them the same thing. Like, man, I sold this chick like four ounces, like two times, two different times.

I still don't, you know, you know, I still don't pay it no mind. Like, he was like, man, you know what, baby daddy? You know he in the fair. I'm like, yeah, I know. But shit, I say, man, they can't get me because it's like she was the only one there at the time I made the sale. You feel what I'm saying?

Yeah. Well, that doesn't mean anything. I found out at the hallway. So I'm like, I'm like, what the fuck? You know, I still don't pay it no mind, man. So I'm doing my, I'm on their radar, though. This is the St.P Police Department. I'm on their radar.

I don't know it. So this is 2009. This happened to 2006, right? So the guys I was getting the message that I was getting the bricks from, they do it. One of them get busted. I'm dealing with the other homie. They knew how to find me.

You feel what I'm saying? So one of them get busted and he debriefed on me. So now, now I got. I think that's how the fares got on me. Her case was state police, you know what I'm saying? City police. When the fares got on me, the feds got on me through the Mexicans I was, the first Mexicans I was getting the kilos from.

They got knocked off and they mentioned my name. You know what I'm saying? When I got my paperwork, I've seen all of this here. So now I got the state police, the city police on me. I got the feds on me now. so now they're all in cahoots with me so it's like okay i still don't know i still don't know what's going on you feel me so i'm dealing with i'm dealing with another another set of mexicans who got them too you know like like over there they come from bradenton they got like little hubs

over there in bradenton where they do a lot of mexicans migrated with that you feel i'm saying so it's like like when the feds got me they say man your name ringing so hard in bradenton man we thought you lived over here I never I never went to Bradenton like I never been over there I've been over there one or two times to go see a female

that's about it I never went over to get no pick no dope up I never went over there and even talk to them guys over there they always came to me so it was like okay now I see what's going on you feel me

but go back to the story like like damn I'm making it on this money, I'm still, I'm still not, I'm still not yet. I wasn't even worried about the fence. I wouldn't even thinking about them, but at the same time, I started getting spooked. You know, you know how you get to feeling like? Because it's like everybody in, everybody in my city who, who was like doing something major was getting swooped up by the feds. Right. And I was like, I was like, I was really like the, the, felt like I was like the last,

the last one in the city who had major work but I never got pulled by the police they never harassed me anything so it was like I ride through the ghost town I'm riding through this town it's like a ghost town that's how I was feeling to me

because at the time now I got a range rover now I got a E500 Mercedes Benz so it's like it ain't too many guys are going good. These are going good. Yeah, so it's like, it ain't too many guys in my city that's riding like that. If they was, they already got swooped up, you feel what I'm saying?

Yeah. So now I'm feeling like, I'm really feeling like I'm stuck out like a sore thumb because it's like, you come past my yard, it's like, okay, I got a range rubber in the yard, I got a Ben's part of the yard, my girlfriend at times, she got one of the new Infinity trucks, FX 35, she got one of them in the yard. I had her old Mercedes. Her old Mercedes, I painted it. It's like a CLK 320 coup.

I painted it black and put some rims on. We got that part of the yard. I got a new Monte Carlo part in the yard. New Monte Carlo S.S. partner to the yard. So you ride past my house, man, my car lot. My yard is like a car lot. You know what I'm saying?

So it's like, I'm still spooked. But at the same time, I'm like, man, fuck it. I'm going to keep giving me some money. You know what I'm saying? so so I'm dealing with another another dude another Mexican he slid up on me not knowing his I didn't know his home were already debriefed on me so now I'm already pha's already on me I don't know what's going on but I'm like shit I need some work like because one got busted I need I need I need to get some work you feel I'm saying I need to get my money up you know you know

when you ain't listen man like when you when you getting that type of money and you're not constantly hustling and you live in a lifestyle, like that money can go fast, man. You can see, you can blow 100,000 in a couple of weeks.

Yeah. Like, easily. And you won't even know it. You feel what I'm saying? And then at the time, I had a, I had my record label going too. So I had, I had some artist's certified hood entertainment i had one of the hottest artists in the city named scrudle he had one of the hottest albums out you know what i'm saying at times so i'm putting

money behind them trying to get them guys record deals you know i mean we i had i had a club i was promoting a strip club i was promoting you know i mean on saturdays you know i mean i i used that club basically to promote the music and the brand you know i i didn't i didn't care about the money that the couple of hours I was making every week that wasn't really nothing you know what I'm saying but I was doing that to promote these like I said I want to give these guys record deals so right so you're you're you're hoping to parlay your like the drug um proceeds into like a legitimate venture to try and get out of doing the drug thing or yeah that that was my plan that was my next plan like okay i don't fuck selling dope when i got these hot

ass artists i can get i can get it get this label off the ground get it worth a couple few meals man shit the dope game over with right they ain't got to sell no more dope you know what mean it was it was crazy like when i got when they when they busted me that when they kicked my door in on the uh seizures on the seizure papers that's what that was the last thing they wanted is pertaining my record label. You know what I'm saying? That's why I told my artist, I said, man, look,

you guys would have stuck with the plan. You guys are being millionaires right now because if the fans talking about you, you're doing something as far as just music shit. You feel me? You're on your way. They're going to make sure, they're going to make sure you don't get that record.

They're going to do everything they can and throw a wrenching that situation. They don't want to see young, young rappers ride around the city. in foreign cars and and blowing money and all this other shit because guess what that's going to do? That's going to help.

Once you become a millionaire in the music game, you're going to be able to help others become millionaires if you stick to your plan, right? You feel me? Right. So what happened, so you've got a bunch of stuff going on. I mean, how does this kind of,

how do they is this when they come down on you or yeah no no this when they come down this this what I like okay I'm in the club one night and the feds was in that club

like they used to come in that club and I didn't never notice you know what I'm saying so so yeah they're not wearing t-shirts no they're hanging out with us like I don't know this though so

So, like, okay, I actually stopped hustling for a little sec, like, because I did feel kind of like a little heat. So I fell back for a minute, about six months, six months, I wasn't doing anything, you know what I'm saying? So I really just kind of sat back and tried to analyze things, okay, try to see where the angle is at. You know what I'm coming from. like all back you get that it's it's that intuition you can just you can feel it it's coming down on you yeah and you think oh you know you step back and pull back i mean that doesn't work but you can you know you start trying to back pedal and shit never works analyze everything so so i tell so actually me and me and me and my rapper we fell out like we basically we basically

he had a little argument about some money so me and him we fell out so I told him man fuck this label y'all can have all this shit you know I'm gonna go get me some more money man fuck this shit and like I said I was on a hiatus for like six

six seven six seven eight months I wasn't doing anything I would just focus on the music you know what I mean I told him they can keep the studio I told him y'all keep that club that night that we're promoting together, y'all keep that, y'all keep all that shit. You know what I'm saying?

Y'all have, I don't want no more dealing with that shit. So I got the hell on, went home, came up with, came up with another plan. Like, like I had to sit back in the real, still, still I was still spooked because I, I still had that feeling like shit wasn't right, I feel what I'm saying? And then one of my home boys, he called me, he said, he wanted to meet up with me. So me and him met up. We didn't want to talk on the phone. He was like, man, I just got word from a couple guys, man.

You need to chill out. I'm like, what you mean? He's like, man, lead him messaging alone. They're trying to flip you. You know what I'm saying? You're hot right now. I'm like, what? Where you heard this from?

He's like, man, don't worry about that. Just chill the fuck out. You know what I'm saying? I took heed to it because this is my main man. He ain't going to tell me nothing. He ain't going to tell me nothing. wrong you know what I'm saying but I still I still was naive because it was like shit I got bills to pay man my money my money getting low I took a hit a couple

times you know what I'm saying I ain't mentioned that you know what I mean I took a hit shit wasn't right you know what I mean the shit I bought wasn't right you know I took I took a few losses but I was still I still had a couple of dollars left so so I fell back again and then I ran into another one of Mexican dudes I got back on again but I wasn't moving a lot like I was before you know what I'm saying I wasn't doing two 300, 300,000

in a couple days like I was I would do 30 grand sit down 30 next couple days later sit down you feel what I'm saying I was basically slow rolling but it was still good money though but I was slow rolling So this round, this round 2010, 2011, you know, I was nitpicking, you know what I'm saying? But I was still hanging out in clubs every night, not giving a fuck, you know what I'm saying?

So I used to coach little league football. So I'm at the field one day and I had a guy approached me that I knew from a child as a child. He pulled up on me like, what's going on? I'm like, what's up, boy, I ain't seen it while you've been, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I'm just, I just been shitting, bro. You're like, man, I need you. Now, what you mean? I'm like, boy, I need your help me.

I'm like, man, I don't know what you're talking about. You know what I'm saying? But that, man, come on, man. Everybody knows what's going on. Not knowing. I ain't thinking. I ain't thinking at the time. I just know him.

We childhood friends. All in all, he was a CI. He coached football, too, but I didn't know he was a CI. So he pulled up. I'm like, man, he'll take my number. We'll wrap later. Okay. He called me.

He said, man, where are you at? I tell him where I'm at. He pulled up to my house. He comes to my house. You know what I'm saying? He's like, man, I need a couple zips. I'm like, what you're talking about some coat? I'm like, what you were paying for him.

He said, I paying like a thousand lamb hunt. I said, you know, them shit's done went up. She's slow out here. You know what I'm saying? so I pulled I had like six ounces I showed it to him he's looking at him

you know what I'm saying he ain't got the money right now and I had a funny feeling just went across me like don't nobody come window shop at nobody house man for no for no dope you feel me right so he left

when he left when he left he was like shit uh I'm gonna hit you back so he'd me back like two days later he said i'm ready man i got i got the money i said me you know they $1,500 a piece i told them i told them 12 at first but nine i told him 1500 just to see what he gonna say it's like shit that's that's it like yeah i need 1500 piece i want two of them so i i took like one of the i took one of the zips and put i put so much baker's soda

that motherfucker and each one you couldn't help but look at it I didn't see it was big a soda, but when he came, he looked at him, he said nothing about it. So that was like, that was like another, like another, you know, any other, any other person that came in cop for me, they'd be like, man, why all this shit shaky like this here? He didn't, he didn't dispute, he didn't say anything about it. So I had like a, a funny feeling again, like, damn, what the fuck he got going on? He gave me the three, he gave me the $3,000.

It was like a whole bunch of fives. ones and tens like a big like a big knock counted the money boom boom boom he left he got the shit he left so as soon as he left i go outside for a little minute and my neighbor my neighbor he he he like to sit out in his car where he don't calls and shit so he called my name like come in for a minute i'm like what's up so i meet him at the gate he say oh man that dude just left your house man he was acting real suspicious when he left your house like how my house is it's like like i'm close to the corner to where the what a what a cross street is like you kind of my kind of my street you've been a right or left and then there's a canal right there so he was like

like when he when he walked out your dope he said uh he he was just acting real weird and he looked down towards the canal and there was a car sitting down there with a window with the with the with the lights off on the street like they can see your house I'm like what he's like yeah like the car was sitting there and the dude when he walked out your door he was looking down towards that way and he got in the car and went that way and the car followed behind him feel what I'm saying so I'm spooked again like damn I hope this motherfucker ain't no got-dair troll whatever you know what I'm saying but then I still and then I thought about I'm like man I'm good with him he ain't he buddy you feel what I'm saying okay he he called he listen he called me back like like a week

later he said I need to hot at you again like what's up I'm gonna talk to you when I get there he comes to my house he say uh he said I need some I need some I need some rock I need some I need some Joe's that we call them we call them we call rocks we call them Joe's I need a couple with Joe's and I'm thinking of myself like motherfucker you just bought he just bought two hours I know you I know I'm saying he's like man I can't find my key to my safe he said that was just huge he said I can't find a key to my safe but I just need to cover rocks to catch my buddy or whatever now that we call crackheads you know buddies you know right you know so so my nephew because I had I had a small studio

and back of my house you know since I let them guys go I I had a student at my house now, so I would record at my house. So my nephew had to left his crack with me because he had to go do something. So I grabbed his, made a soul to the guy. I saw him three of them, and he left. So I don't hear from no more. I'm calling him. I called him like next day, like what's going on.

He ain't answering the phone. So it's like, I want to say this like December, about December. was six early it was early december i don't hear from i don't see him or nothing so this this come round december december december 19 i'm fin to go christmas shop and it's right before christmas december 19 i go over to the international mall you know they had you know they got the gochie store over there and all the other shit over there so i'm going to buy me some buy me some new sneakers, some Gucci sneakers, and a couple, you know, some more apparel

from all there. So I'm in there. Before I go in there, it's this lady. This lady say, uh, how are you doing today? Uh, can I read your poem? I say, what? She said, can I read your phone? So I'm, I'm over there. I'm, I'm over there with two

females I just met. We all, we all went over there to go shopping. So she's like, man, don't do it. She just want to scam me out your money. Like, no, I want to hear what she got to say. I say, man let me let me let me get my stuff and i see you when i'm done so i'm going to i pay for the shoes i get two pair of sneakers i think i bought a hat and the felt or something so i'm coming out i'm coming out she got that waiting on me so she grabbed my palm she rub it on it she's like she's like i see

something i'm like what you mean you see something she say she sees an indictment and listen she said I feel you she said I feel you in some trouble I'm like what kind of trouble she said I can't tell you that but I feel you're going to be in some trouble

but her last word was you're going to be okay you're going to be all right but you're in some trouble but you're going to be all right you feel what I'm saying and I was spooked that she said that like

so so me and chicks. We leave. We go eat an oligar and all. All and all, all this shit on my mind. Like, like, on my mind. Like, I'm thinking about this lady that told me this shit. So we eat, we eat oligar, and they drop me back off. Boom.

I go home. I call them a little chick. I'm like, man, listen. We're going to stay in the night. I'm going to just pop up. Me and her, we go, we chilt, dog. We know we, I say, man, because I'm thinking maybe somebody going to try to rob me. You feel

I'm saying? Some shit like that. But not knowing when they say trouble that can mean like anything but when they say danger that's different you know trouble and danger like two different words you feel what I'm saying yeah yeah you might look at them different so I'm thinking it's true I'm thinking maybe okay if I go out the night some dude might try to rob me you know what I'm saying because I don't have a situation way ain't nobody try to rob me but I had niggas plotting on me you feel I'm saying so I call her she come over we laid up we smoking we drank it with my stupid they were just fucking off, you know what I'm saying?

So we're doing that all night. We go in my room. We lay that. We just hanging out all night, man. It's on my mind, though. You feel, saying? So I lay down. One of my cousins called me,

said he's supposed to swain through. Come holl at me before he take it in that night. But he never called me. This is my cousin, who I got what, as soon as I got back from North Carolina. You know what I'm saying? man, he was real close. So I go to sleep, man, her go to, we fall out, we go to sleep.

I wake up that next morning, I turn on the news. I'm watching Bay News 9, you know, Bay News 9. And all I see is my cousin's picture up there. He just got killed, man, like, I'm really lost for words. I tap up. I'm like, man, get up. I got to go down here. because I know he was at a motel.

He was running a gambling. Gambling spot out of a motel. And it shows that some guys tried to rob him. He killed one of them, shot the other one, and he got hit. He got hit, too. So he died, you know what I'm saying? So I'm just, I'm just distraught now. Like, all my, all my thing and I got to get down here in his motel and see the fuck going on.

So I tell her, she'd get up, she getting dressed. She's in the bathroom. actually getting getting dressed so I'm jumping on getting dressed and my phone rang I look at it and it's like a weird number it's like all numbers and letters across the screen I say hello and my phone is echoing so loud I'm like that shit ain't seen right so I hung it up boom I get back to getting dressed and my phone rang again I say hello nobody say nothing it echoes all i hear myself echoing so by the time i put it back down boom boom boom i hear flash bombs going off police police i look at my window man man listen my yards worn with cops

blue jackets i look out my back door i see one one cop hop hop on my gate and he and my dog I got a pit bull and a rock waller back there. Man, and listen, all I see him hop back over the gate, my pit trying to eat his ass alive. So I'm running around scrambling in my room. Like, what the fuck? I had some coke and my guns. So I throw everything under the nightstand.

I throw the coke and shit under the bed. And by the time I do that, they in my house. I'm in my room. By the time I do this, they don't. them breached my door they in my room man and i just they said lay down lay down i just closed my eyes i said to myself jeez god please let this be a a nightmare a dream man and then i woke i open my eyes again man i see i see all kinds of guns just pointed at me you know i got i just like this i got my hand like this hill like damn god you got you got you it was like the worst

feeling ever man you know what I'm saying like the chick she she hiding in the closet she's like she she's so goddamn scared you know what I'm saying I just told her man I just told them I'm man she ain't got nothing to do this y'all let her go man she don't know what the fuck I was doing she ain't got nothing to do with this shit so they let her go and everything you know what I'm saying like man I like that was like worst feeling man like like really like because I never been through that shit. Like, like I say, I've been, I've been hustling since I was damn 15, 16, man. I never been through no shit like that. I don't seen it happen, but they never, now I got experience it, you feel what I'm saying? So I have a question. I mean,

the bus, or your cousin getting killed and your bus being on the same day, that had nothing to do with the other two separate events. Yeah. But it all happened. Like, yeah. He's, got killed that night and i just i just learned about it that morning when i yeah because it happened it's the raid exactly like like like like like like really like like like because i'm like damn i just wanted to make sure because it seems like it's connected like that's a real coincidence but he's running a gambling operation that and somebody tries to rob him that's totally that's a totally different thing but yeah that's just okay it was like he called me me that night before he said

I'm gonna hit you up cause I'm uh because he was just leaving the club I said I'm chilling the night man I'm staying in for night you man you sure I'm like yeah man I'm staying in because any other time I probably would have went to the motel with him or we got him or we went to the club you feel I'm saying

yeah yeah I'm like I was I was so distraught man like goddamn cause and got killed man and then this shit happened like a couple seconds later once I found out about him so man my mind was just gone man like like that's like the word feeling dog you ain't you know yeah everybody when they got all they got their military rivals pointed at you got there he and talking about he bed out moving you know they're going to shoot you

man you reach for anything man they want to shoot you they want you to read so like they want you to do something exactly and they're going to get they're going to be justified man Yeah. So what, so they, they, they, they handcuff you, they bring you downtown. Like, was this a DEA or is this FBI or who is it? It's all of them. Like, all of them. Say people least. Right. And the sheriff's department. It was all like I had like basically, because the informant guy who I sold to at my house. the two ounces of coke. He come to find out he was a

confidential informant for the sheriff department. So I had the Fed case. I had a state police case for that crack I sold that woman back in the days in 06. And I had

the fucking sheriff department case. So it was like all three task force was on me. So when they get you downtown, they try and have a conversation with you or yeah they try to do all that try to try to make me make me tell who I was getting it from and everything but I like like I'm not going to do that like right let me just going just going to book me and I'll see what see what the fuck going on

from there you know what I'm saying did you get did you get bond what like what's your attorney say like sure what it was uh I got a lawyer he got he got me bond because they had they me had me with a high bond he got me a bond reduction so so i was able to bond out i had a friend friend girl she's a bondsman so she came and got me so what happened was my my case was state at first so i went on it went on for like five months i hired a lawyer or frank lauderd he's a he's a good state lawyer but for federal he ain't shit that's a majority lawyers like that anyway yeah you know so I hired I hired him

my case like I said my case went on for like five months with the state and he was like he was like man what's going on is the feds

and the state is debating about who's going to take your case and he said most likely if he's going to go federal because you got a gun and they want your ass

for years yeah you like you said that your name had come up over and over again they've been hearing about you for for years and years they already got you buying you're selling years earlier so yeah they they definitely they definitely want you yeah he's he was like man just be just be prepared to get indicted man by the federal by federal man that that shit just my whole stomach just dropped in my ass when he said that Like, man.

Well, what did they hit you with on the federal? The federal case was firearm, a 924C, in furtherance of a drug trafficking crime, a possession of firearm by felon, basically. Right. And possessing the, because I had, like I said, they found cocaine and crack in my house. This is what they said.

They said, we're going to. to throw the cocaine out. You just play out to the crack. I say I say shit. I say shit. That's a deal. You feel what I'm saying? Not knowing the crack going to give me way more time than the

cocaine. Right. I was going to say so because you had a gun, like that, and you've been arrested before. Yeah, he's saying I was a right. So you're looking at 10 years. The minimum mandatory is 10. years, right? So you're not getting less than 10 years, but you got more than that.

No, yeah. Because the gun, the gun carry five. Right. And the crack carries, they gave me six years for the crack, basically. Okay. Damn. So you took a plea for that and you had to turn yourself in? Yeah. Man, the only thing the guys who don't have been to the feds kept telling me, say, man, look, don't play with these people. They come with a plea, jump on it, push come to show, you can fight it from inside the prison. You know what I'm saying? You can get to, what are you going to do?

Go to, go to fucking trial. You've already, you're already sold multiple times. Like, they've got you hands down. They only need a few people to get on the standing point at you. You can't beat that. then you're not going to get that sweet deal you're going to get 20 years 25 years exactly that's why that's why i jumped right on it like this what they're coming with okay when do i sign it's it's really just it's the best of a shit you know you're trying to pick

the best you got nothing but shitty options yeah because because at the end of the day 11 years is a long ass fucking time too long time that's a long fucking time told my kids my mom i said man i'm just going to go ahead and take whatever they come with man so i can get the fuck on man and start just start this process man you know one thing about the i was going to say at least you did have some you knew it was coming you had some time to kind of prepare yeah like with me they just grabbed me up and everything's gone and i got nothing i can't sell nothing i can't put anything away i can't i can't pack my stuff up and say, hey, keep this box of clothes for me.

Like, no, I can't. I can't. I think it's going. Yeah. I mean, I thank God I was able to keep my properties. You know what I'm saying? They took the money. They took the range road. They took the beds.

They took the money. They took the jewelry. You know what I mean? That's all they really want to come do. You know, the money they recorded. They found was way less than what. way less than what they found. Right.

You know how that goes. But I mean, it is what it is, you know what I mean? That's part of the game. We got to take that lick, you know what I mean? So I just, you know. How much time did you go straight to Coleman? No, I sat in the county jail, you know, until six. Well, I was out on bond at first because they gave me a signature bond.

My mom did the signature bond. so I was out so I was able to get my get much everything together you know what I'm saying cut in my first I never been in no trouble so the judge granted me that you know what I'm I mean of course they were trying to get me to cooperate but no I wasn't fin to set nobody up none of that shit man fuck no I ain't I got to go to prison so I you know I can't I am not gonna have that on my god damn shoulders like that you know what I'm saying so I did and got everything together turn myself in and you know Coleman Lowell was my first, my first stop.

I got there in 2013. So I stayed at Coleman for, did like two years at Coleman. And then they packed me out, me and a lot of other guys, and sent us to Yazoo, Mississippi. So I went out, I did like another 20 months at Yazoo.

You know what I mean? I got out there, that, that, that, that, that prisoner is really, totally different from Coleman Yeah I heard even the Lowe's rough Man listen

That's a different That's prison Coleman Lowe is that's a That's a That ain't nothing Compared to that shit out Man I ain't At Coleman Lowe I seen one or two fights

I got at Diyazoo I see I see two three fights a day if there was a fight at the low like they'd lock it down for two or three days you know but when I was in the medium there would be a fight they'd call you know they they lock everybody up and then they

the next move they'd open it back up yeah they know what's going on man then when I left Yazoo I went to my points dropped. So they sent me to Pensacola Camp. I got a chance to see the camp life was back. You know what I'm saying?

So I didn't, I lasted like 10 months. You know what I mean? Cell phone. Yeah. So they sent me back to Coleman Lowe. So when I got, I got by the Colman Lowe, like early 18. So I did the rest of my, I stayed there four years. I did the last four years, four years at Colmanlo.

Mnloke. So you were there when when COVID hit. Yeah, yeah. Oh. It was bad, right? Man, that was like the most depressing pressing time, man. Like, I don't like, like, like, they wouldn't

let us, we couldn't go outside. You know what I'm saying? It's like we couldn't get fresh air like how could you, why would you want motherfuckers if it's a COVID it's COVID shit like Why wouldn't you want motherfuckers to go out and get fresh air every day? Yeah, I think they were just using it to try and cut the budget, you know,

to try and lock you up and, you know, they can keep you locked up all the time. They get to, they don't have to fund all those different, all the different things. They can cut the guard staff. They got a bunch of guards to fucking take early retirement. Yeah, less work for them to do. Feed you in the unit. And then they was feeding. The feeding was horrible.

man. We had to eat refugee trays, man. Peanut I was, man, listen, I were glad to get a hot meal. Was, did you remember Red Bull? Yeah. Did he, didn't he go back to, he went back to, um, Coleman, didn't he? I'm not sure. I remember, I remember him. Yeah, I think he went to the camp, though. might have been the camp because he was at the low then he left went to a camp and i heard he

he fucked up at the camp went to like a medium or or to another low maybe yazoo and then i heard he went to coleman i assumed he went to the to the low but it might have been the camp so so when did you get to then you went to the halfway how yeah no actually actually uh like my i i suppose got out of June, June 16 for this year. And I had an incident with, with, uh, remember Eritel?

The facility worker, had the beard, real piece of shit, like to just cuss every, cuss at you for no reason. Yeah, I think so. I'd have to see him, but yeah. Yeah, me and him got into it. Like, the motherfucker, uh, was patting me.

Me and him had words before. you know what I'm saying because I used to work the compound and shit I was a compound worker so they were shaking our unit down that day and we were on the rec yard we were all coming out the wreck yard you know how they pat us down we come with the red yard before we go back in the unit you know what I'm saying so he made it his duty to come over there

and help them out because he knew our unit was out there and I told I told uh Davis lieutenant Davis at the time I said Davis man I don't want him touching me he's like All right, don't worry about it. Go down to another officer. Go down all the way down because I had to walk past him because Urtale just came and jumped in the line, right?

So I come and pass him. He grabs me by my shoulder and say, man, now I'm going to pat you down. Man, get your motherfuck of my fucking hands off me. You know what I'm saying? Fuck you got going on. He was adamant about searching me. So I'm telling him, man.

Y'all see this man here? What the fuck he got going on? So Thomas, Councilor Thomas was there. he's seen he's seen and a lot of other guys trying to figure out why the fuck he's so everybody's trying to figure out why he's so adamant to want to search me you feel I'm saying yeah so I'm telling him told me told me no don't go to the next man so I leave from buying me steady grab and he found to search me so uh Cordero he's a lieutenant now his Spanish guy he's a piece of shit too yeah he was like he's like fucking let him search

you I'm gonna take you to the shoe and I'm gonna search you so mind you I got 30 days before I go home you know what I'm saying I'm like fuck it man you know what I'm saying so he told me to spread my legs and everything he patted me down so the motherfucker he chops upward man like on my testicle bro

like he pat me down and chops up boom it hit me in my fucking nuts so I turn around I'm gonna fucking be his fucking ass dog I'm like man y'all see man you fucking hit me in my nuts I'm making a big ass scene about the shit man they does nothing about

about that. They just say anything, anything. They're still yelling at me. Go to the fucking unit. I'm going to lock your ass up. Man, I want to just go home, man. Like, like, like, I got 30 days left, man.

I just want to go home. I don't know smoke, but I just got violated. You feel I'm saying? Right. So, so I walk past and say, you're a piece of racist piece of fucking shit, man. A man is fucking nuts. So I'll go to the unit.

I get on the phone. I call my mom. And I tell her to call my lawyer. So I'm going to call my lawyer and tell them what the fuck just happened. And I emailed the assistant warden and told him, look, man, I just got sexually assaulted. Right. I hit in my nuts, man. Everything's recorded in line.

I tell my lawyer what's going on boom, boom. So they called child. One of my homeboys who work facilities, he coming in. And then the unit, he said, man, look, that's a little buss-ass, motherfucker, earthy. I'll say, oh, man, chill the fuck out, man, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, what fuck are you talking about? He'd a fucking, you're gonna hit me in my fucking nuts.

He's like, tell you whom, but he was, he was telling me, and his word, like, tell you whom, woulda chill the fuck out? Man, fuck that motherfucker, man, he's a fucking faggot. Any man, he hit the man that nuts is a fucking faggot, man. So, me and my other home, we walk into the, we walk into the child. I see him standing in front of the standing in front of Charles if he's waiting on me

you feel I'm saying so I get down there birthday he say oh he starts yelling at me like go fucking take those pants off like I told you before I'm saying to myself like motherfucker you ain't know you ain't say nothing to me about because I have my pants altered you know how they do

you know how they they redo the so they so the slim fit now so I hadn't had these pants for them near a year like this here I had a couple pairs of them I guess he used that an excuse to come

come yell at me or whatever so I'm telling him man I ain't changing shit fuck you he's like what fuck you said man I said just like man cracker fuck you man his face got so fucking red

man when I said that to him he just started cussing so so he he telling me to get against the wall by the uh but you know the maintenance workers where they do the

that little office right there at the point. Yeah, where S-I-S and the big doors are? Yeah, yeah. I'm right there. He got me right there with my hands on the wall, pat me down. I'm like, man, don't fucking hit me my nuts again. Pussy, motherfucker. I'm cussing out of me shit. So we face

to face now. Man, I'm ready to just punch his fucking lights out, man. And I see he's cussing so loud, he's got everybody's attention. Like, you know, he's an attention seeker. Like, he all want to do talk shit he don't want to him want no smoke so so uh miss harris working a commissary she she she come out the door uh the laundry worker come out the door uh it's it's a lot of staff

just out the door they just watching this stupid motherfucker cuss at me like this head and i got my fistballed up i'm just saying i just ready to just crash it all in man like i'm just like like but i'm in my back of mind like shit i got 30 days left is he is he going to be working me knocking him the fuck out you know what i'm saying and go to the pen you feel me so so i look at miss harris and the other other stuff i mean they're shaking the head like don't do it they see it in me like but they just shaking the head like like don't do it please don't do it so i don't do it right uh mr felt you know he's the case manager down in in uh a1 a3 for the unicorn union he's standing out there he's like he's like man sure the fuck out man he called me over there

he walked me in a cafeteria so he's like man you go get your food and i'm gonna holl at you afterward so i'm in line motherfucking he tell he coming in and get me he's like man come here they called me out the w out there this this is a new w the black guy i'm telling i'll go tell him what happened he don't want to hear none of that shit he like lock him up they took me to the shoot i'm like what the fuck i did disrespect my staff. I said, man, your staff

assaulted me, sexually assaulted me. So they take me to the shoe. I see a Sharma, the S-I-S lieutenant. I tell him about it. He does nothing about it. I tell Captain Baker, he does nothing about it.

Nobody come talking to me about that situation, about me and hitting in the testicles. I say, you know what? I got a trick. So while I'm in the shoe, I'm writing down on dates, time. Everybody that was there when it was seen, I'm talking about I got this thing detail to the core.

Medical come past, I tell them, I explain that what happened. Boom, one, more, no, they don't do nothing. Okay, what's your name? I write that name down. In the shoe, you know, they come through every week with the warden, everybody, you know, just to check on everybody, right? So I put a sign on the door. I was sexually assaulted by a staff member.

I need to talk to somebody. So everybody, the warden read it, the AW read it, Captain read it, everybody read that note I put on that door. Nobody comes talking to me. I wrote that down, daytime, everything. So Mr. Nado, the medical lady, she comes, she's heated.

I'm like, what the fuck you mad for? I'm the one guy getting the fucking nuts. She's like, you didn't have to put that note on the door. she's like i'm gonna come i'm gonna see you you're gonna see you so they called me out they take me to the medical i tell them what happened they said but they scheduled me for uh ultrasound so i'm back in a shoe four weeks i'll see nan doctor i'm still in pain like you know if you get hitting your nuts hard enough you're gonna feel that shit in your abs you feel me right so i'm like i'm like what the i'm i'm feeling this pain i'm got this pain in me so what they do they give

me two shots, jack my points, and back my date up to October instead of June. So I don't go home in June no more. I go home by October, and they send me to the medium. So when I get to the medium, I get over there, I put cop outs in to medical about seeing about what's going on. They had me scheduled for ultrasound, when it's going to happen. So they're scheduled my ultrasound. I get the ultrasound back and shows that I have fluid that built up.

on my left testicle. So I don't, I still don't get no medical attention, though. He said, with time, it'll go away. I'm like, man, I'm in pain. I need, I need to see a doctor for real. So by the time I, they schedule me for a doctor, I'm on my way out. Yeah. So this is what I do.

I get with a guy who does law work in there. I gave him all the information that I've been documented down and he wrote me up a five page affidavit so I can file charges on that guy you know what I'm saying and I got it I got to type up and everything ready to go I got to sign my name on it

I made copies of it though I got like four sets of copies five sets of copies so I'm going to sign each one I'm waiting I'm waiting till I get off this home confinement wait till I get on probation because you know you get two years to file charges you know what I'm saying so I said I'm gonna wait till I get on probation I'm assigned I'm assigned one I'm a sent it to Washington DC to

prea department the next one gonna go to the prison and I'm gonna send one to I forgot that he gave me address to see said send them one to these people to and keep your copy and have you send your lawyer a copy so I got I got a map that how I'm gonna do it so I'm just I'm just waiting till I get this ankle monitor off and now I'm I'm in probation custody now you feel what I'm saying

so they don't try to be in the BOP custody and do that that's right so like right now I'm scheduled to go

to the doctor next month to go get it checked out I got I signed up for the free health care for a year through the halfway

I got that coming so I'm going to get I'm going to get this shit checked out man you know what I'm saying and just basically basically after the after that get out this goddamn custody man i'm gonna i'm gonna file charges on that dude man like

like like really like he he really out of pocket man like like what you say no i was just thinking i mean that's just you know some of the like i always say like some of them guards are just there to get a paycheck and some are there because they just have a power trip you know they're just like sadistic yeah like and he even the go like he's a facility work and you he does the most on the compound to fuck with inmates like like like i don't like he wouldn't do that or that medium or that pin you feel i'm saying you get away with at that low like a lot of them a lot of them guards they get away with that shit at that low like some of them don't got their ass whoop now i ain't know you probably

don't see it what do you remember the guy they called the CEO, his name was Solo. Oh, yeah. Is he still there? No, they sent him to Jessup Medium. His first week there, he got beat up. Listen, I watched him. I mean, he was constantly fucking with inmates.

Yeah. He was just vicious. Like, I watched him really flip a guy like a like a UFC move like just like through the guy the guy's legs went in the air slammed him on the ground I mean it was brutal guy didn't do a thing

didn't do a thing the guy walked by him he goes here he grabbed him to push him up against the you know the wall to frisk him like didn't say like hey man let me pat you down just grabbed him guy caught up back like what the fuck are you doing boom flipped him in the air

slammed him on the ground I was walking down the hall when I thought, I was just like, holy shit. Yeah, I seen Hallstead do somebody like that. Here, another one, somebody going to knock him, knock his fuck ass out, man. Yeah, they get punched every

once in a while. Somebody slams them and. Well, that's why, remember Walters? Yeah. That's why he was working in his shoe. Somebody had to knock them out. Yeah. Bird, too. The one bird, the youngster had just started working there. You know, the, the

problem is I you know that they bring it on themselves you know what I'm saying like I don't want to see anybody get hurt but it's like you know what are you doing like you're you're bringing this on yourself you're you're disrespectful you know like like these guys look these aren't angels that are in here these are the fucking inmates aren't aren't angels but then again if you just treat them with respect they'll treat you with respect and everything's fine but instead you got to talk to people like they're a dog that's it and they talk to you like a dog now there's a problem now there's a problem And I would listen

The COs I was polite to everybody And I would still have them Talk to me like I was a fucking piece of shit Even though I'm yes sir, no sir Perfectly like and they just go out of their way To try and try and make do something Yeah I don't I don't

That ain't cool man like I don't dig that shit at all man But to each his own man They'll get what's coming to them though Hey is Carrie still there Who? Carrie? Counselor Carey? No. Okay. No, I think he went to the medium.

God, he was a scumbag. I think they seemed to the medium. I'm shocked how many people are still there. But they were doing a lot of job changes. Like some of the CEOs became counselors. Some of them, they sent different spots to be case managers and stuff. It depends on their education. is Thomas still altering his shirts making them real tight yeah looking his eyebrow wearing a little bit

a little make that little ruse I mean he's he's something else but actually Thomas was really he was he's pretty cool though he's pretty fair you know what I'm saying here's the thing like initially the first couple interactions I had with him he was a total dick but then he came then he was like a counselor and he was my counselor in the an art app yeah yeah he was super cool like he was really cool if you got into a room and nobody was around he was cool to you yeah but it was a couple times you know the first couple times i had to talk to him it was just like fuck you're a dick then like i said then then then i got into a room one time sat down and it was just It was so helpful, nice, just the nicest guy.

And ever since then, he was totally cool. But I think Dr. Smith at the time had him, she put him, caught him in, you know, got him in line. You know, they said her to, they said her to the pen, man. Yeah, I heard that. Yeah, they said her to the pen. Because she was doing some of the scumbag and shit, like guys being them made it through the whole program. And now, with two weeks ago, you're kicking them out the program. Like, for some other shit.

Like, man, listen, when I got the Yazoo and I ain't take the drug program, but them guys and that drug program was hanging the fuck out. They wasn't doing all that stupid-ass pull-up shit, you know what I'm saying? They do the program after 4 o'clock. They ain't on cell phones, liquor, smoking, everything in that damn unit, man. No, she was, that wasn't happening there. She was having guys turn on each other. I went to the program twice.

I did it twice Damn Well I dropped out both times Just before Like I did six months one time I think And I did seven months one time It dropped out both times

Damn Are you dead I think too many guys I think too many guys Go in that program right Man by the time they get out They got gray hair everywhere Yeah

A lot of stress You ain't supposed to be stressed inside this i mean that's they said that's like another world inside of prison to be it in that unit it's like being inside of cult but listen the unit was quiet

it was clean it was that was the best unit to be in yeah um well so what are you doing now right right now um focus

on getting my music get my music out, you know what I'm saying? Because I made a, I made a couple of albums before I left. I never got a chance to put them out, you know what I'm saying? So I'm working on that. I'm working on put my label together so I can, uh, I got a few guys that's getting out that I want to sign, you know.

Like I want, I want to sign people. I want to build my label off of guys who getting out, who want to get their life together and want to do music, who's part set on doing music, you know. I mean that they don't want to go they don't want to go back to that street life you know what I got to show them like look okay when you get out money money money

ain't going to be you got to get your job folks selling dope trying to go back to the street life because I'm not I'm not signing new artists to my label that's that's in the streets feel I'm saying we can talk about the streets but we're not going to be in the motherfucker

I'm not I'm not going to jeopardize my label you feel I'm saying so in the contract that's what i'm going to have if you if you bring anything that jeopardizes trouble to this label far as with police uh beefing with other artists and other things i'm dropping you from this label man it's going to be in a contract you know what i'm saying get your job and work and show me that you want to you want to be part of this label i'm not just going to give you some money man i mean i can but I want to give you money in this contract and then you're going to go to the streets with it.

All right. Why dump all your time and money and resources into getting them something? I mean, how many guys are like that? Like, they'll actually be doing well and they're still fucking selling drugs and getting into gunfights. It's like that's why you got into music to begin with was to get out of the fucking that life. Exactly. That's my point. You know what I'm saying?

So I'm not, I'm not, I really don't want to, I really don't want to. Put too many artists on my label that I got to, I have to keep my eye on them. If I got to keep my eye on you, I really don't want, I really shouldn't have to be dealing with you. You feel what I'm saying? Well, you would think getting out, getting out of prison or doing prison time, you would think that while you were locked up, you'd realize that, you know, I don't need that much. Yeah. You know, that that's what that selling drugs and, you know, being in a gang and that, that, that's

what got me in prison like I'm willing to sacrifice to stay out of there at this so I mean that listen that's what it taught me was like I I I'd rather be able I'd rather have a lot less and be able to turn the television when I want to turn the TV yeah I'm saying I got a girlfriend like I got my own like I don't need too much I'm just take pleasure in the simple things. Exactly. We take that for granted, man. Yeah.

I'm able to go cook more. Definitely got to stay out here. Yeah, I'm working on that, my label. I'm working on a, I got a book coming out because I used to coach the league football. So we as coaches were father figures to some of the kids who didn't have fathers who were deceased or incarcerated. you know what I'm saying or simply just had a father who just ain't give a fuck by them so I want to share it light on to that situation to where the book is called a coach is a second father you know what I'm saying so you know I'm how I want to highlight different different aspects

of parents who need uh basically if you if your kid if your kid ain't ain't listening to you and the father in there and he want to play sports talk to the coach had a coach talk to the kid you know what I'm saying you can you'd be amazed how how a lot of kids look up to their coaches you know what I'm saying how much power a lot of coaches have over kids you know what I'm saying and then I'm bringing up the situation to where watch your coaches his child molesters as coaches you know what I'm saying your kid talk to your kids about if they feel uncomfortable and your coach is touching the kid and surf start away you feel what I'm bringing I'm bringing I'm gonna I'm gonna share a lot of a lot I got a lot I got a lot of subjects I go over in my book and I'm basically I basically want to you know it's just something it's just something that came on my heart like like during a pandemic you know what I'm saying I thought about it I say shit I can go I see a lot of guys writing books. You know what I'm saying? And one of my

one of my friends, like, man, people don't want to, people don't want to read no book if they ain't talking about drugs and I say, that's bullshit. I'm going to show you. It's other things you can come up with in these books. You know what I mean? You just got to be

creative. You know what I'm saying? And creative, creative and authentic. If you can, if you can give a person a creative, authentic book, everybody ain't going to like it. but somebody will you know what I'm saying so I'm working on that and I got a couple of movie scripts TV shows that I wrote you know I'm just I'm just slowly slowly putting everything I've vision

that I wrote and put into a plan I'm just slowly slowly slowly slowly slowly slowly slowly walking the steps of it you know what I'm saying so I appreciate you let me come on to your podcast you know what I'm saying and yeah here in my story you know yeah um no i i appreciate you you come and uh you know jess and i were you know what what's funny is how this came about if is that you know you know jess and i were walking through the mall and saw you and i was like god he looks familiar and she's like we were in the halfway house with him where i was i was like yeah you know yeah because i you know because keep mind you were in coleman and then you left and then

you came back and I guess I saw you in the halfway house too right but I just wasn't I guess I just didn't place you right away yeah um do me a favor if you like the video hit this subscribe button hit the bell so you get notified of videos like this um leave a comment in the comment section and uh also um I have a Patreon obviously everybody knows I have a Patreon if you like the video and you want to thank me you can go go to the thank you button it's it's right next to the the thumbs up and thumbs down button you just scroll sideways and there's a little there's a little thank you little dollar sign you can you can donate money um once again i appreciate you guys watching and i will see you