Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Ex-Police Officer Reveals Dark Side of Law Enforcement

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

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When you see a U-Haul coming out of the Frikan Valley, out of Covalo down into the main highway 101, it's filled with the fucking weed, 900% of the time. Thousands of pounds in the process. You got two dudes that are from Mexico here illegally. And then they take it, they sell it, and the fear factor was so huge for these people. Now they're coming up, like, in other parts of the county. Where I know U.S. attorneys that have been caught manufacturing evidence, fired, and then rehired in another jurisdiction in a supervisor's position.

So you were given a promotion, you've already framed people. If that's happening in a federal level, what's it like at a good old boys network of a small town sheriff's department? They do a search warrant for the IP address. Comes back to the lieutenant's house. That's fucking weird. Let's do a search warrant to the internet provider. Okay, it's Comcast under the lieutenant's name. Okay, that's weird.

Who lives in the lieutenant's house at the time? The lieutenant, his wife, 18-year-old son. So let's do some common sense here. It's more than likely going to be the lieutenant or his son. Hey, this is Matt Cox, and I am here with Trent James. He is a former law enforcement officer, and he's got a super interesting story, and we're going to get into it right now. So check it out. Yeah, so I'm 35 years old.

Currently, I was born in Harbord, West Wales. My mom was in the military. I never met my dad. And she was a single mom for the vast majority of her. know, my, the earlier years during my childhood, we moved around a few times. And I ended up in Mendocino County, California, when I was about eight years old in Yucaya, that in Mendocino County is very rural and it's part of the Emerald Triangle, along with Humble County and Trinity County. And that is basically those three counties are

where the vast majority of the marijuana, the good marijuana is grown for the entire country so uh i grew up there and very i was a piece of shit growing up for sure i was i was not a good kid by any means and through my teenage years i was very very angry um got suspended a lot uh all the time and um switch at a couple different schools barely graduated high school i didn't give a shit about anything back then you know and when you're a teenager kind of also you think that you know what's best and you know everything. I had a lot of run-ins with law enforcement during those years too. And I would say, you know, custom outs of their face. I would say, fuck you, you know, pig and stuff like that. I hated cops. And it was, you know, I got arrested a couple

times once when I was 17, another time when I just turned 18 over a little stupid bullshit. Nothing major. But I, yeah, I just really pissed off and angry. I had no direction. No, I idea what I wanted to do with my life at all at that point. And my mom, God bless her, she had zero control over anything that I did. And she, you know, would tell me like, you don't give the shit. You don't care about your life. You don't care about anything. And I said, I don't. It was very, I was very self-destructive. And it, looking back, I went out of my way to make my situation worse as, as, you know, the worst that I could make my life at the time. I did it intentionally just because I was so pissed all the time for whatever fucking reason.

that is i don't know but uh anyway so i i graduated um i skipped third grade so i graduated high school a little early and you know i didn't turn 18 for a while after that so i fucked around for three additional years or so after high school just drinking partying and again having zero goals in addition or direction where some of my friends have gone off to college but my close best friends i was partying with those guys and you know now those dudes have been arrested multiple times, a couple of my really close friends got into meth, heroin, shit like that. And I, you know, I'm grateful I didn't go down that path. But yeah, so anyway, I decided that I started getting into working out and taking care of myself, which changed my

whole life. It gave me some structure. And it gave me the more that I saw progress, it made me want to continue to go down that route and not party and drink and smoke weed and do all that stupid shit that I was doing and fucking around. So it helped me mature a little bit, which I was incredibly immature up until that point, not that I'm overly mature now, but I decided to move out of county with one of my buddies. And I made that decision because I knew that if I stayed where I was living, I was going to end up in prison at some point just because of how I was. And so we went out of county. And that. that friend now he works for uh he's a highway patrol guy and uh still close friends to this day

but i ended up going to college and i took a criminal justice class as part of a general education requirement and at that point i had no intention of being a cop ever and it was very interesting to me it was the only subject matter that for whatever reason ever interested me up into that point i hated school again like i said i barely graduated high school fortunately for me in high school i had some really cool fucking teachers and a really cool principal that went out of their way to make sure that i didn't get expelled or or whatever like i mean i was on academic probation and um attendance probation and behavior probation all that shit with the school so that really helped me a lot and for whatever reason they liked me i don't know but that they i still remember them and

And actually, I hated fucking cops back then, but I do remember our school resource officer to this day. And this was in like 2003 or four. Glenn Stark, I still remember him. Never saw him again after high school. But he was the only cop at the time that I did not cuss out to his face and say you're a piece of shit because you're a cop. He took the time to talk to me and, you know, I had respect for that guy. So anyway, I took a criminal justice class. It was very interesting to me.

um and i was like 20 at the time and so i said like maybe i can this is like this is weird because i was fucking hated cops so i ended up going on a ride along with the local law enforcement agency where i was going to college and i was like holy fuck this shit's actually pretty badass so i continued my education got a bachelor's degree in criminal justice and this was in like 2012 i think and back then it was hard as fuck to get hired like 2008 to 2013 because of the recession they were laying off a lot of dudes it was very competitive and the whole reason I went to college also was you know why I knew I needed a bachelor's degrees because I knew that my background was all fucked up

and nobody was going to even look at me if I didn't have something positive in there because they look at time from the last time you fucked up and what you've done since then we're going through a background check with these cop jobs So went through in 2012, I'm sorry, graduated 2012. And then shortly after that, I got hired as an adult probation officer initially back in Mendocino County. So I moved back there. And it was not what I wanted to do, but I was just happy to have a job in law enforcement. I was still super young.

So I thought that like I can segue into something else later and be an actual street cop. So I did that for a short period of time, had a caseload of, well, initially I was writing pre-sentence investigations reports for dudes that were, you know, going through the court proceedings to see if they were going to be eligible for probation. Then I had a caseload. Was this federal? No, this was local. So adult probation, just county probation.

So, yeah, guys that would get, you know, felony, it was all felony level shit. So then I had a caseload. my first caseload was like 150 fucking dudes and it was really weird for me because I hadn't been back to that county for fucking years at that point like I left for I don't it was a long time and so two of the dudes on my caseload were fucking my old some of my best friends that I had grown up and I was sitting on the other side of the table with these guys and one of them I was fucking piss testing which was awkward as fuck and he looked like dog shit I used to play baseball with them and shit and I was I was actually heavy into sports growing up but he

dude just like just meth and and you know so I actually went to my supervisor I'm like I can't I can't fucking watch these guys like because it's it's too not that I'm going to do anything wrong it's just it's too fucking weird man it's it's I don't want there to be any issues you know because you never know what gets said and I was like I'm not trying to get in trouble here right I just I don't need it this is too close to home these guys like were my best like two of my best friends so uh yeah i just i don't want to like run a risk of having anything misconstrued if something needs to go to court later on and be like oh trent didn't disclose the fact that they're fucking they used to be best friends and shit so um i was trying to do the right thing and she's like

yeah that sucks strength tough shit you know it's a small or a small county and then you got to just fucking make it work and i was like all right i'll go fuck myself then i guess so um i thankfully um in that department oh my fucking god that had talked about corruption and and bullshit there. One of my friends there, she, she was dating the chief of, well, he later became chief of police at the local PD and just bad domestic violence. He later got fired for in that town in Yucaya for forcing a woman while he was on duty as a police chief to give immoral sex at her house.

And then he got fired and he also lost a civil case against my friend for, beating the shit out of her during a relationship in front of her daughter but during that time it was everybody against my friend the the female you're full of shit he would never do that like that's impossible and and this is the common theme in law enforcement especially in especially where i where i worked and where i grew up is that people have that they don't know any better they have this misconception that cops are perfect angel fucking boy scouts or that you're robots with no human emotion and they have this this expectation now it's a little different these days where people because of so much shit in the media that people don't necessarily

have that view but back then it was like it's impossible he's a cop no way no way just because he's a fucking cop and so anyway later on yeah look what happened so um so i actually got recruited to the local sheriff's office there um short time of probation as a deputy and And right when I was on field training, this is what I heard about our DA at the time, the district attorney for the county. Some of the old guys would tell me this. I got told a lot of shit back then for some fucking reason. And I don't know why, but these, the older dudes, the older generation, they say,

you know about the DA, right? And I said, no, what about it? Well, he runs an extortion scheme. And I'm like, what do you mean? They're like, well, weed's obviously fucking huge, you know, around here. And it was, dude. Like, when I was growing up, even as a kid, like everybody fucking smoke. week it was commonplace like you just did their parent they could steal from their parents um you see

grows fucking everywhere it is just it it's fuck it was everywhere always so in 90s when i was grown up um and and everything so uh i was like what do you mean so they're like well when when we go bust these growers for it was a felony at the time in california for cultivation um will you know seize their assets or or cash or weed right and so the ds at the time when it was still a felony they're like he will bring him in his office and he'll say do you know what do you want to do you want to buy a fucking misdemeanor right and so that's what was going on back then it was like a lot of it was all cash a lot of people have come forward from this RICO case that I'm going to talk about too and brown paper bags zero receipts 50,000 100,000 dollars one-on-one

conversations in his fucking office like and And this is all public record, too. He actually got, had a lawsuit this. So what he did to justify this is he combined two health and safety code laws, which you're a fucking DA. You, you don't have the authority to change laws, by the way. Also the interest of justice. Because he's like, well, it's going to be cheaper if these guys just give us money and

we don't have to run them through a jury trial and waste taxpayer dollars and all this shit. But the funny thing about that is through this RICO case, I mean, there's zero documentation for any of it. there's no receipts there's no paper trailers and nothing what the fuck did that money go and at the time when i heard that when i was super young and naive and and green um i was even then i was like that sounds illegal as fuck and they're like yeah it is but nobody gives the shit so i was like all right so um but it was common knowledge and he he's admitted to doing it but for those reasons

that i that i just gave so that was kind of my introduction into coprol there and you know Mendocino County it's very just to give some some uh like a visual here so it's it's a huge fucking county huge massive very rural very beautiful but you know the town that I grew up in yukaya at the time it was like 30,000 40,000 people maybe um small and everybody knew each other a lot of like rancher dudes and and you know that that's sort of a thing but uh so as time goes on, I actually shortly went to work in Covalo, Brown Valley, which is an hour and a half northeast of where I live in Yucaya. Still part of the county, though, but it's an hour and a half away in the same fucking county is huge. And so I spent the vast majority of my career there as a

deputy. I was a resident deputy, and that means that I lived in that town. I police it like you would think of the 1850s and the old west where it's one share for a whole town that's what i did and i was a canine handler for like three and a half years so i had a dog at the time and that place was fucking crazy because it was it's very very small it was like a population of 1500 to 2 000 and the nearest town from that was an hour about 45 minutes away and that town was only 4,000 people. So it was way out in the middle of nowhere. And I did that alone, but that town is a huge population of Mexican cartel and then a huge checkerboarded Native American reservation. And then you have, you know, population of, you know, white people. There's

like a couple schools. There's a one grocery store, very small, two gas stations. But this town is the most dangerous um area in the entire county like by far the most violent um and the the cartel dudes back then or they did still do this but weeds gone down a lot since it got legalized but a lot of them would pay the native americans to grow on reservation land um but what would happen is a lot of the homicide so many fucking homicides and kidnappings and like the worst crimes you can think of really um I was dealing with it alone for years on end. Like, I didn't have any backup. It was always an hour away.

Sometimes I had help from the tribal police guys when they were on duty. But California, unlike a lot of other states, reservations, it's a public law to 80 state, meaning that the sheriff's office has jurisdiction over reservation land, not the tribal police. So everything on the res was us. It was the sheriff's office that were dealing with it. So, but that was a huge part of the weed was up there. And during this time, too, I came to find out more about my administration, the guys that were in charge of me, the lieutenants there. And the sheriff's office wasn't huge.

You know, we had like 65 sworn, I think, always short-staffed. And it was a good old boys club. It was dudes that had known each other for fucking 25, 30 years, you know, just old white motherfuckers that, quite frankly, had lost touch with reality. Don't know how to community police. they're they're involved in a lot of weird shit too but going going through my time there you know you hear more stories about these guys right and this is documented fucking shit too like what was wild to me is that one of my lieutenants um at the sheriff's office had been fired early in his career from a neighboring sheriff's office for raping a woman on duty he arrested her her male

counterpart, her boyfriend or whatever for domestic violence, arrested him, took him to jail, went back and raped her, right? And he, huge fucking lawsuit. She immediately called the FBI. She didn't even call anybody local. She's like, fuck that right when he left, FBI. And she was able to fully prove that he was there because he had his dumbass had his radio on. And the traffic that was coming through, she heard it, relayed that to the feds. They backtracked it through dispatch and like, okay, he was definitely there. Well, I'm story short, that county is also a small, correct pile of shit that has a massive history, too. And, of course, he got terminated.

But the thing with this is cops, when they fuck up, especially, you know, I've even known dudes that have been terminated for fucked up shit. They get allowed to, a lot of them, quit or resign in lieu of termination, right? They get afforded that ability. It's a privilege. It really is. And it depends on how cool you are with your administration. A lot of times that happens because, dude, fuck. Like, we don't want to let you go.

We like you, but you fucked up big time on this. Holy shit. So he didn't go to prison because the victim in that case, it went on for a while. She settled out. Like, it was a huge fucking lawsuit. So he got fired and stayed out of it for a little bit. And then he went to become a cop at my department back in the day because his dad and his mom both worked at the sheriff's office. his dad was a supervisor who was friends with the sheriff at the time and um you know one of my

other lieutenants was a prior mortenio gang member that used to sell meth and acid and got arrested for beating the buck out of somebody with baseball bat in his you know early 20s um and did more shit on patrol but he gets promoted and then another one that's a documented pedophile had sex with the 14 15 year old girl as a cop from his prior department um got fired and you know of course got a job at my agency and they're all protected and um another one act dude so the guy that's in charge of ia's there so that's eternal affairs investigation so when cops do something against policy or a law violation they will go into somebody files a justified formal complaint their department will ideally put them into an investigation look into it and try to validate it

or invalidate it right so the dude that runs that there currently was fired from his prior department for a hit and run on duty and live in his own IA got fired and now he's in charge of him because his stepdad or his father-in-law at the time was the captain at the sheriff's office so you see a little little mafia yeah so my buddy that I'm gonna get into this is all super fucking a bridge too like I said dude so um my buddy that is going through this RICO case I say he's heading it up but there's like a shitload of people involved in terms of the victims of this thing. But he actually said in Minnesota County, where I'm from, the cop shops there, the law enforcement agencies, including the DA's office. It's its own criminal enterprise.

He actually said that too. It's like the mafia. Well, I, you know, I had watched a couple of the videos on your channel on the, the confessions channel, not the two cops. But I'd watch one of those videos and you were talking about how people leave comments and this kind of stuff doesn't happen and this isn't true. And I mean, I know, like, I know U.S. attorneys just from doing, just from writing stories where I know U.S. attorneys that have been caught manufacturing evidence, caught lying, fired, and then rehired in another jurisdiction in a supervisor's position. So you were just an assistant U.S. attorney. Now you're a supervising U.S. attorney. So you were given a promotion. Granted, it was a year later in another jurisdiction, but I mean, you shouldn't have

been a U.S. attorney. You've already, you've already framed people. You've been proven to frame people. Like there's, there's, there's court cases showing. Matter of fact, the middle district had to pay, I think, three and a half million dollars because you framed someone. And they just rehire you. And that happens, you know, so if that's happening in a federal level, what's it like at a good old boys network of a small town sheriff's department, you know, like obviously it's, it's much, much worse. You're absolutely right. And you, you know, you do know, you have a lot of knowledge on that front, too.

And I want to, in a little bit, I want to talk about something else that I saw. You said it's totally applicable to a lot of these things, too, that I saw in one of your videos. But the thing of it is, at the time when I started that channel, I'll get into that in a minute, like people are so um people in the outside world like just that live at every any other place like florida even where i'm at now in texas actually maybe not this place is fucked up too but um like they have a hard time that county is so small that a lot of these people grew up together it's a lot truly is everybody knows everybody and so the people that i was talking about

on the youtube channel like the for example just the lieutenants very brief i didn't even hit on every every supervisor there either um their friends are everywhere in the community families everywhere in the community so they had this like people would say oh trent you're full of shit you're making this up and i'm like because they don't want to nobody wants to hear that shit you don't want to hear your fucking uh uncle your your dad your brother your your lifetime friend is a a felon pedophile rapist fucking crook right nobody wants to hear that shit so you're going to be like this is impossible I've never known him to be anything other than a great solid stand-up cop. It's like, yeah, dumb shit.

Like, what do you think they're going to do to you? Sit you down and say, hey, man, just want to let you know I've been committing fucking crimes. Don't tell me. No. So that's not how that works, right? So, you know, people thought I was full of shit until all this stuff started to come to fruition that I was talking about. But like that rape thing I told you about, full fucking report, man, that still is, I'm not going to say where it is, but it is in existence. And a lot of these other things are fully documented, right?

But, um, so anyway, so I'm, I'm hearing all these shit through all this shit throughout the years, right? And these lieutenants that I'm discussing too, aside from the IA guy, nobody fucking like these guys. And there is a massive issue in law enforcement still to this day. I have friends that are cops across the fucking country, man, and in, uh, homeland security, fucking, um, the FBI, department, department, sheriff's offices, like all kinds of shit, right? Guys, that used to be lieutenants and sergeants and stuff. I was a sergeant at one point. But it's an issue that plagues a lot of areas in the country.

And since I started my other social media platforms, like I've had conversations with a shitload of cops that are experiencing the same things that I did. And it's basically what that means is a lot of corruption at the administrative level. These guys that are in those positions that run that world get promoted for specific reasons. and they are uh they just they just ruin fucking lives man there's a lot of shit that goes on behind closed doors that would completely the public has no fucking clue the public has no idea now you see you see shit on like CNN about a cop like unjustifiably beating somebody up what about

unjustifiably murdering somebody you know what I'm saying I'm not talking about like where he said he had a gun and shit I'm talking about going to their fucking house at night time and blowing their fucking head off right and the shit that you see see like in Hollywood movies and stuff with some of these guys like I worked with those dudes in their prime right when they were this is like back before they were doing this shit in like the early in late 90s early 2000s um you know when I was still a kid for sure and that's what the current sheriff would would fall back on when I talk out about these guys oh Trent's just talking about shit that happened when he was a kid or you know a long time ago well it's like

yeah that's cool bro but let me ask you this do you think that uh because I was a kid that it's cool that these dudes are, uh, you know, a pedophile or rapist or whatever just because, you know, 20 years has gone by. You think that they can still be a lieutenant at the sheriff's office, not to mention the shit they're doing now, no, man. It could be 300 years and it's still not cool. Um, the Rodney King, uh, you know, that the Rodney King videotape. Yeah. I remember everybody, people who say, yeah, well, that's the exception. I was like, it is the exception that it was videotaped. Yeah. It's not that it doesn't happen all the time. The exception part is somebody was there with a video camera.

Well, and, you know, that's why we, I started my, my other, my buddy and I started our other, our podcast separate from my main channel to give the public, like a real inside, honest look into what law enforcement is because him and I don't give a shit. Like, we're not, we have nothing to hide. Our, our records are exemplary, especially mine. And cops don't talk about that stuff. And what I found out doing this and discussing some of these things is, that I've gotten a lot of information over the years, especially since I started doing my YouTube channel from guys that are retired that some moved to Florida, because that's like the spot to go as a retired cop or Idaho. They would call me and say, hey, I don't like what you're

doing, Trent. I don't like these guys that you're talking about. This is what I know from during this time. This is where you can go look in addition to that. Don't you ever fucking say my name to anybody. They don't talk about it because in that culture, um, And this is like the prison gang culture, too. It's like, you know, there's no snitch, right? No snitch mentality, which we know is fucking bullshit. I'll get to that later. That's all I was talking about what you said, right?

But it's the same thing in the cop world. You don't snitch on another fucking cop. It doesn't matter if it is your mortal enemy and you hate that motherfucker. You don't say anything. It's very taboo. And it's ingrained into a lot of these guys, especially the older generation that I worked. it didn't matter just having conversations with the man it didn't matter how much they hated somebody at the administrative level they will never they would rather die pretty much

than discuss it like officially you know with the feds or anybody it's you just you don't do it and i had a lot of people when i started my channel that tell me i was going to get killed you know by these dudes like you better watch your backs right i'm like what the fuck of these guys going to do you know um but that that's where that's how bad that is though like there you know people compare law enforcement to like the biggest gang right in the country that don't get me wrong like I said I have sometimes people get this twisted I'm not a cop hater I was a cop I have a lot of close friends that are still in law enforcement I'm anti fucking bullshit corruption hypocrisy right so if you're going to do the job do it the right way and I would say the majority are

good cops the majority are but the ones that i worked with um that supervised us no they were not and i got a lot of people that can vouch for that too so kind of got segueed here so uh i i was working out in that area living by myself on the res and the cart and cartel land pretty much um a lot of good honest people out there though that people i'm still friends with to this day but I don't even have like the words for that place man that shit was fucked up like it was it was every street fat fucking grows they're all illegal some of them are trespass grows um like I said it's like a lot of a reservation stuff so and unfortunately you have the statistics there right with the poverty low socioeconomic culture um alcoholism drug addiction and there's no opportunities out

there. Like I said, it's a very small rural town that is isolated the shit with a horrible history, not just from the 1800s where the Native Americans got marched in there forcefully and there was massive like genocide and shit that went on in that town. But prior resident deputies before me, like, yeah, I mean, people could just Google Mendocino County Covalho and it's just inundated with articles and crazy shit that, you know, you had a deputy out there that got that got shot and killed. you had these other ones that have gotten fired for hanging girls on duty while their wives were at home picking them up with the local bar there in their patrol cars taking them out

into the woods hooking up with them and shit the the one that's most notable is uh the another lieutenant that worked at the sheriff's office when you said they get promoted right so this dude and this was back like in 2002 to 07 right when Trent was in high school or middle school whatever So he lived out in this town, this small town of Kobolo. He was a sergeant. And his name is Shannon Barney. And he had three resident deputies that lived there with him that he were underneath him. And back then what these guys would do is not that this is illegal at all.

And this is kind of a matter of preference, I guess. But they would all, you know, meet up and have swinger parties, right? And orgies and shit like that. they would all bang each other's wives and vice you know whatever swap around and stuff sometimes on duty though so that's a policy violation um and when I worked there too I had a shitlet of people in town tell me this also that they hadn't grew up there and were around for these guys that these dudes were not you know a couple of them were extorting the weed growers out there like harvest time you know around October they would say and this is back when it was

a you could go to prison even in California back then for this so um illegally growing um you know do you want to give us 10 grand and or do you want us to fucking come back and hit your spot in there and arrest you right and they would do that very often along with the the swinger stuff um getting drunk on duty and um two of these dudes actually killed themselves under suspicious circumstances um one of them the officers yeah yep yep yep one of them killed him such shot him so that's what i'm saying this town that i lived and worked in it has like the darkest worst fucking history out of like anywhere just in terms of like the how small the population is dating back to the 1800s with the genocide for the native americans

moving forward with the cops um and so uh yeah so this one of the deputies killed himself at his house in covalo and this was when everything came crashing down on them because what it happened is a deputy i'm not going to name his name but he his wife was involved in this wife swapping shit and he didn't know about it so he found out about it and he was getting passed up for opportunities to promote because of this shit because he wouldn't participate in a lot of their other stuff that they were doing too um so they found out a way to fire his ass for no reason good he was a good ass fucking cop too you know um you don't want to play then fuck you because the sergeant out there was really close friends with the sheriff at the time who was also a corrupt piece of shit and the lieutenant that ran that sector. So they fired this guy. He sued. And he won his job back. And they proved all of the allegations. But what had happened, and this is all public records. Well, these incidents are. But the judge, Nadel, she sealed all the court documents. And that guy had to sign a non-disclosure agreement. He is never allowed to talk about it. And the reasoning for this, she said, is because it's in

the best interest of the community and the and everybody as a whole that we don't let this information out. No, no, what that means, what that equates to is you don't want the public to know about all the things that this guy like came forward about these dudes, the crimes they were committing and how you guys are going to let them keep their jobs and get away with it is what that is. So when this was all going on though, yeah, that one dude killed himself in 2007, the first guy is Tom and Kobolo. And when I worked there, right, everybody he would be like, hey, Trent, did you hear about Brett White? And I said, yeah, I know the stories.

He killed himself at his house. No, he didn't. His boss, Shannon Barney shot his ass. And I'm like, well, you know, it's like one of those things. It's like a rumor that's, but everybody fucking said the same shit. And come to, but, you know, it's like, come to find out, I looked back in some of these old articles that went on during that time. And a prior sheriff, so that corrupt sheriff, he fucking, he, he, he, he, he, he,

quit halfway through his term the lieutenant um uh sorry uh the captain at the time took over his name was kevin broin and kevin um did not like what the fuck was going on out there he was actually a really good solid honest dude and he tried to fire that sergeant that was heading up the wife swapping and the extortion and all that shit right um but in the midst of all that Brett White, the deputy, shot and killed himself. But in the articles, it says, you know, he's like, I, at the sheriff's office is not automatically ruling this as suicide. We have to do further investigation.

And that's very weird because my job as a deputy because we were so small, we did everything. Like a lot of agencies that are bigger have like their own corners division, domestic violence unit, property crimes unit, no, no. you can get like five years experience like in one year where I worked because you do everything um so all the corners cases I do them from or everybody on the street from start to finish and I've been to a shitlet of suicides and everything you can think of including gunshot wounds to the head which is how this guy died um I can't think of a time where you know so when you get there you're going to look for like signs of foul play right but it's pretty

obvious, you know, for the most part, gun in the hand or or down next to where it would be like you're going to look at the fall of that weapon. Does that make sense for his body position, how heavy the gun is, the trajectory of the wherever he put it on his head, where the whole the exit wound is going to be, the trajectory of the bullet. You know what I'm saying? Right. So there's a lot of things that you look at when you go there to do the initial investigation as well, some other stuff. But you can very easily determine like pretty fucking quick if you're going to need to call a detective out to take over a potential homicide investigation okay so the fact that back then the sheriff was like we can't rule this as a suicide

right now fucking red flag number one and then the lieutenant at the time that was covering for him this is like back in like 2010 at this point um goes on in this article too and he's like yeah we're aware of the rumors we've gotten the emails and the phone calls because everybody in that community not everybody but a shitload of people were calling in saying hey Hey, we know that guy did not kill himself. This is what we know, blah, blah, blah. Long story short, that sergeant that was involved in all of that shit just got taken out of Covelo and later promoted to lieutenant.

That sheriff that was trying to fire him and go against the good old boys club and the grain, he lost an election to that lieutenant that was supervising that whole fucked off thing up there. And shortly after that, he got ran the fuck out of there. that guy that did that lost the election he went back to being a captain and he ended up retiring early in an article he's like i just can't do it anymore i don't see i these guys i want a part of it so right because that's what happens like when you try to do the right thing at a lot of these agencies and i've heard this from a lot of people that work in other counties and states too um they'll fuck your ass up you're not going to have a job sometimes they'll put a case on you too it's this is not conspiracy theory shit like this is like this stuff actually fucking happens man um um And for whatever reason, like some people in the public have a hard time believing it. It's like, it's fucking wild to me. What I will say is that all the dudes that I worked with on patrol, solid motherfuckers. It's when you get to, most of the sergeants were cool to.

Even though one of them right now is off on leave because a 19-year-old girl said that he raped her, which is fucking top secret classified, but I found out. And that's still in process. but it's like the guys up and those are the ones that you want to fit your agenda if you're a sheriff under sheriff captain chief whatever your agency is you want guys that are going to fit your what you got going on what you're about right you can trust to keep your fucking secrets right so if i was a piece of shit as a sheriff right and i was a criminal and i was doing a bunch of stuff. Would I want a bunch of goody, two-shoe boy scout dudes as my lieutenant's? Fuck, no, man.

I want the felons. I want the guy that was fired from that agency, fired from that agency, and this one used to sell meth and be a gang member. I want these fucking guys. Right, right? Because they're, they're not going to roll on anything you're doing. So it's just common sense. That's how it works. So anyway, um, so I, uh, I keep getting sidetracked here, but so I was out there. Um, and it was a, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it, It took a toll. It took a toll on me, dude. Like the, the, the, the fuck.

Like, I don't even have the words for it. It's hard to explain if you, like to get somebody to understand if they didn't do it. But going, living in an isolated place like that, because it was the national forest, okay? Like, it's, Round Valley is literally round, surrounded by fucking mountains, okay? And again, the nearest town is like an hour away. And very rarely that I see anybody. Nobody even checked on me. Every once in a while, like one of my sergeants would come out for something, but I was like left to my own devices, which is wild because of all the prior issues that cops have had out there being fired, fucking shooting themselves, getting killed.

But the sheriff at the time, not this most recent one, but the one prior, he allowed me to do it. He's like, I'll let you do it. I know you've been fucking working out there nonstop for years already. You know everybody. you're good at it I trust you so that's how that came to came to be but it was really it was really a crazy place bro because like you know I get it's seven days a week and you have to community police the fuck out of that of a place like that because if you don't get trust and rapport with a small community especially on the reservation they do not like cops understandably

so um especially white cops like one of my house brand new out there what the fuck are you doing on the res white boy straight up big giant motherfuckers that are have more tattoos than i do you know were you add it up at the time i had i had sleeves um and oddly enough i actually got my neck in my hands when i was living out there i was like now i fit in you know but um i got i got more i've always had a lot of tattoos even when i started um which the older older cops were not fucking happy about but and it's one of those places too and you know this because you were you were locked up right so like but out there it's a lot of they'll they'll test you right so they're going to say like let's test this fucking new rookie

cop we could tell you a rookie in two seconds the experience guys right right and if you're going to fucking like you have you know three prison dudes standing there in the fucking yard and you're there to investigate some stupid fucking call that doesn't even mean anything they're going to see what you do because if you waver at all in your command presence they see some fear in your fucking eyes you're fucked right so it's one of those places and this is hard to explain to people too where you have to talk a certain way that's why i cuss a lot too it's a bad habit i still carry with me you have to talk a certain way this is no sir can you please show me your hands it's not that it's not that place it's you're you're you're in for i would not be sitting here today if

that was my my approach okay you treat everybody with respect absolutely but when you get tested like that um you have to handle it very different and some of my biggest informants and snitches this is how i was also very successful out there i won deputy of the year in 2018 there as well for what what i did in that place um are prison dudes the biggest baddest motherfuckers you can think of that run that town and also are shot callers in prison and outside of it were some of my biggest snitches right the ones preaching don't fucking snitch will kill your ass are Next to Trent James, hey, I know you're looking for so-and-so. He's over here right now.

You know, and it's just a fact of life, dude. And you get these youngsters there that are their sons, their nephews, they're like little kids. They were like, hey, fuck you, cop. Like, I'm not telling you shit, even though I became close with a lot of kids there too. I'm not snitching because that's the culture that gets emulated there. Yeah, that's what's propagated. That's what everybody said.

That's the popular thing to say. Yeah, but it's not true. And you said it in one of your videos. It's not, it's not reality. It's like, and what you said too really stuck with me too. You're like, if this was reversed roles and somebody else was in my position and they had a chance to snitch on me, they would be the first one to do it. 100%. That is fucking true.

I would tell guys that too. I'd be like, dude, I don't know what you think you're doing. You're homie over there. Gary snitched your ass out. Now, sometimes that's a tactic that cops will use to get somebody to provide information. Right. But the hard dude, they know better than that. I didn't play games with those guys.

I would straight just tell them facts. I don't play interrogation, interview tactics or anything like that. So, sorry, this dude's making noise behind me. But it was real. They would. They would, like, Trent, don't take me to jail. What do you want to know? Okay, what the fuck is, where's so-and-so hiding is AK-47 stash?

Oh, it's a fuck, you know, immediate. Right. Immediate. So, but it was an interesting. place, but I came really cool with those guys, man. You know, they went to jail when it was time to go, but I didn't fuck with them over stupid shit, you know, so you got a dude that's, you know, a Norteno guy or Indian pride dude, fresh out of prison on parole out there in the middle of nowhere and I live there

in the middle of town. Everybody knows where I live. Am I going to take that guy to jail and violate his parole for driving with no driver's license? No, fuck no, I'm not. Absolutely not. So you have to police it different than, then. everywhere else but you know right when it was like the shit that I had to take care of

quality of life issues because that same guy's doing fucking drive-bys um or or uh breaking into homes and shit like that yeah they knew it was time they knew it was time you know it's funny um it makes me like the more serious the more serious the place is the more laxed you have to be to survive and it's funny because i had a an SIS lieutenant in federal prison tell me and tell me this so I was in the medium for like three years when I went to the low you know you have to have as you come into intake you know you talk to medical you talk to psych you talk to you know all these different departments when I got to SIS he I remember walked in he said listen you're not going to have any problems

here he said let me let me he said I'll simplify it for you he is in the pen we're trying to keep the inmates from stabbing us in the medium we're trying to keep them from stabbing each other he said at the low we're trying to keep them following the rules he said it's that simple he said you're a rule follower you're going to be fine and he left but that's the truth because at the pin they're they're super respectful to the inmates because they're extremely dangerous at the medium they're a little bit less respectable but still pretty respectful at the low the cops are maniacs because they're talking to a bunch of guys that are rule followers who don't want to go anywhere. So, you know, you can at a lower, if you're in, if you're in suburbia, you can pull anybody over

for anything at all because none of them are going to give you a problem. Yes, sir, no, sir. Absolutely. I can't believe that you couldn't see my, my tag. Of course, I deserve a ticket for that. I don't know what I was thinking. But if you're, you're in a gang, high gang area, you see four gang bangers in a car that you can barely see their tag.

It's like, you know what I'm going to let them go. Yeah. I could go so wrong. Or you call them up, you pull them over and real quick, hey, bro, check your tag, bro. You can't have that filter thing over the tag, okay? No problem. I don't need to see your license. You guys are good.

That buys a lot of respect. It does. You're 100% correct. You already know you're right on that. But yes, that is exactly how that plays. So, you know, I'm thinking like, hey, Trent, you're in a, and these dudes, too, like they would, they follow prison rules still when they get out, right? because they're so, that becomes they get institutionalized.

They've been in and out their whole lives and shit. And violent, violent, dude, the violence. Holy fuck. I've never seen, I've never seen anything like it. And I doubt that I ever will again. It goes on out there.

But, you know, I'm thinking like, hey, a cop's been smoked out here before prior resident deputies, you know, you know, they had their house shot at. Everybody knows where I live.

Yeah. I'm not going to be jacking. Texas in Arizona. There's cartel members having shootouts with the cops. Yeah. You know, on you, the u.s yeah you in florida you would if you told someone that they'd be like yeah that that's

not possible no there's cartel in texas in in arizona in texas having shootouts with the police they're like that that i don't i don't believe that because just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not happening just because it's not happening here well and that that's that's my whole my whole point dude just because people don't experience it or haven't seen it themselves like that I know that shit happens. But for me, yeah, dude, like, it's in that town, let me just put it in perspective. When I lived out there, there was basically no fucking internet. There's no streetlights.

There's no stoplights. There's no fucking cameras. People can't film shit out there because, yeah, they want to go, like, maybe upload it somewhere else later. It's dark at nighttime. And I don't mean, like, when I say, like, you can't see shit. There's no lights of any kind. Well, like you said, your backup's an hour away. Yes.

nobody's coming to help you no one's coming to help me do so like you know at night time this is one of my fondest fucking memories of living out there and this is no joke dude this is not i'm not saying hey this is sound cool by the way this is the fact anybody that did that job too like knows what i know can vouch for this shit i'd go out of my backyard at nighttime chill and drink some tea and um you hear fully automatic fucking gunfire like from my neighbors behind me just do do do do do do because these dudes cartel guys they shoot rounds from their fucking grows one because yeah they get drunk and fuck around

but two it's a warning to anybody in the area do not come over here and try to jack our shit otherwise you're going to get fucking smoked because that was happening a lot back then too people would my other next door neighbor I just look out my kitchen window huge fucking grow huge and he got hit a couple times

when I'm sleeping fucking you know a hundred feet away or whatever it was by these dudes but it was a lot like that man i'd just be out at nighttime you just hear the fucking just gunfire dude i heard of actual gunfight one time across the street from where i lived you'd hear boom boom boom boom boom and i'm like ah whatever and then two seconds later opposing side boom boom boom boom boom boom these motherfuckers are shooting each other and it was that one was natives and uh cartel dudes and it was always beefing over fucking land um because a lot of the cartel guys too they wouldn't even get permission they would just grow on the rest some plot of land somewhere not fucking smart but the thing with those cartel guys too

is why they will shoot at cops whatever no one knows who they are these fools don't have social security numbers and dates of births man like that they are documented right so out there they you know creep into my house which was an old 1960s piece of shit with no insulation no alarm or anything and um froze my house off in the winter uh come in fucking kill my ass and they'd be back down in Mexico while they're still processing my stupid body dude you know what I'm saying like it's it's fucking it's just common sense and native the native community a lot of good good uh honest people there too people that I'm friends with as well um I do agree that it gets a stigma um a bad perception that people have associated with it because of you know it's just like

anything else but it is true that it a lot of crazy shit went on there but those dudes a lot of them They don't give a fuck. They're 16-year-old Trent at 40 years old, right? They don't give a shit about anything. And that was very obvious when they were doing the things that they were doing. But it, yeah, I mean, like years of, you know, getting called out because, you know, hey, Trent, so-and-so just got shot in the head over on the res. You know, you got to go deal with that.

We're sending another unit your way. He'll be there in an hour. And I show up. And there's 40 fucking people at this thing. And a dude, he's still living. is they're the fucking uh one of the paramedic dudes that lived in town is trying to bandage this fucking fool's head up as they're calling in a helicopter at people fucking everywhere the suspect is still outstanding and um you just have to figure it out you know what i'm saying

no one's coming to to save your ass um all the pursuits i got in over a hundred you know it's like you're they're always over in a matter of 10 15 minutes no one's coming to to help you with that you just have to hope that it works out for you or or everything else that i did too. So it was years of, you know, that's just like, that's a whole thing by itself. But years of that, the adrenaline dumps left and right and being, you know, paranoid and always in life and death situations. Also dealing with resident deputy duties, going to the schools every day, which I did, try to talk to these kids that wanted to go to prison because they thought it was cool. Graduation rate extremely low out there. No, no role model.

else to look up to. And I saw that. I was able to identify with these kids a lot to three of them actually when they ended up graduating thanked me personally for what for helping them. And that meant a lot to me. It's like, dude, even if that's only one kid, like I'll, you know, I'll fucking take it. Going to the businesses, dealing with, you know, a lot of those civil things that a lot of cops wouldn't even bother with. So you wear a lot of hats going to homes to talk to kids that don't want to go to schools. That really a cop function, not necessarily. But, you know, so you do a lot of things. I loved it, though. I loved it and I volunteered for it. But years of that, coupled with the running around in the woods, you know, dealing with hardcore shit and

seeing, you know, shit that I'll never forget. It wore on me. So I can't, I finally hit up the sheriff and I was like, dude, I want to come out of this place. But at the time, one of these lieutenants, the pedophile one, like he and everyone fucking hated this guy. dude he was a piece of shit um he actually they tried to fire him during his training phase when he was super brand new at this agency i'm talking like early 2000s i think his trainers try to fire him they're like dude he is unsafe he's cocky as fuck he doesn't know what he's doing and just a bunch of shit going on but he had a friend that was friends with the lieutenant that ran the training program like no we're passing him like cool thanks guys so we're so close

not having to deal with this guy so anyway but that's how that works it's all about who you know especially in the good old boys club you know so um he took over up in my my area and he was a tyrant he was lying on guys evals because he didn't like them which got proved uh the captain found out but he just said please knock it off um he was taking credit for the shit that i was doing in that town he was lying to the captain about stuff that me and my partners were doing or and he was just he was just a piece of shit and I couldn't take orders from this guy because I was like dude you you got fired back in the day for fucking a teenage chick dude and also this other stuff I know about you like you're you're fucking garbage and at the time he was

making it harder for us to do our job especially me in cobalow because he thought that he knew what was best and I'm like dude I worked out there for years and lived out there bro and like work the res you you've been out there like twice your whole fucking life what are you talking about you just because you have bars doesn't mean you know you're talking and that's the problem, too. Same with the military and cop shops, cop world. These dudes get these, these levels of authority and they're like, I know what's best. Very rarely do you know what's best to be a guy that you're subordinate. It's funny. And the BOP because they have like a union, they can't fire people. So the more of a problem you are to get rid of you, they give you a promotion. Yeah. So you end up

getting promoted from a CEO to, you know, you go from like a CEO. You're a problem as a CEO. Okay, make him a counselor. Okay, he's a problem as a counselor. Make him a unit manager. Okay, he's a problem as a unit manager. Make him a supervisor. Okay, he's a problem. I mean, just to get him out of the prison. Yeah. And, you know, I mean, I've seen that happen over and over again where they had, I, in the other, you know, when all the other officers hate your guts. Yeah. and the inmates hate your guts and they cannot fire you and even the other officers will say well eventually a supervisor position will come available and they'll force them to take the supervisor position and they'll ship them across the country and there'll be somebody else's

problem for another three or four years and then they'll ship them somewhere else it's like are you serious they're like well they just can't fire them you know about the poor bastardsers that are going to be underneath that person because they they like at my agency too they promote you this was a common saying too you fuck up you move up yeah everybody said that and you're right but like so for my department it kept so California is not an at-will state unless you're uh you know a chief or a captain or an undersheriff or whatever but um for us dude it took a lot you got to put a fat case on somebody to fucking fire you but for me I didn't have I was never in an IA my whole career no eternal affairs investigations I had a couple stupid little shitty write-ups for like I don't even remember what they were for but I had like exceed standards on multiple years of my yearly evaluation. I got deputy of the year, like I said. So I was doing my job. They had nothing on me.

So I wasn't worried about anything. And that's why I was so vocal. And so anyway, so me and my partners are all complaining. Even the sergeants there were fucking bitching about this lieutenant. Dude, he just, he belonged in prison still from or having to register as a sex offender from his shit back in the day. But it got so bad that I actually asked for a meeting with the captain at the time. and who was a reasonable person, you know, talked to him for an hour and a half.

And he agreed with me. He said, I agree with you, Trent. And I, but I didn't know it was this much of an issue. I do know that lieutenant, Andrew Porter, I know his history. I know that he is not liked by fucking anybody. And, you know, he had stated during his promotion interview with the old sheriff, you know, the sheriff was like, hey, Andy, like, nobody likes you because he had been a sergeant in the detective unit how am i how am i supposed to promote you and he's like sure if it's not my

duty to get people to like me it's my job to you know get a promotion he wanted to be a lieutenant more than anything else on earth and come to find out the stereotype with this guy is true he got his ass whooped in high school and he became a cop for the wrong reasons i became a cop to help people they couldn't help themselves as cliche and corny as that sounds and to have fun right something new every day and I devoted my life and a lot of my mental health that I'll never get back to the area that I chose to be a one-man show in right but I had a conversation with him and he's like I had to promote him he did the best on the test the other two sergeants that you want to be your lieutenant that are way better leaders and everybody agrees yeah they didn't

do the best on the test so we got to give it to this this criminal and I was like you know what kept getting worse so i just said i said fuck it dude i'm out i can't keep working here bro so i gave a month and a half notice month and a half notice um they let me take my dog with me even though they the county owned him but uh because at the time i my guy that's no longer my friend he had been fired from my department a few years prior for time fraud for two hours he was at a training he went home chilled and then didn't clock out and they fired him for it because he was kind of like me loud mouth goes against the grain hated the fucking administration they hated him so he became a lieutenant at a local police department in my

area and he's like Trent come over here you can be a sergeant um I met with their chief already at that point and um he's like get out of that shitty fucking agency man it's just going to get worse and so I was like oh cool and at this point dude like we had a lot of other people that were transferring out and quitting and shit during that time and at the in in my mind, I had already done everything that I needed to do. I had like multiple lifetimes worth of experiences at that point. And the agency I was going to go to at the PD was like Disneyland compared to where I had worked before.

It was just night and day, you know, no, no, you know, brutal fucking, you know, stabbing homicides. You know, when I was out there, I had a dude get shocked in the fucking head, broad daylight behind my house like that and, you know, body dumps on the side of the road. would just chuck this one kid 19 years old they just chucked his ass out on the side of the road after they riddled him with bullets um right on the main roadway in town there at like 10 o'clock in the morning cartel shit right to prove a fucking point right it was it was uh it was it's it's it's the things that go on out there man it it it's fucking crazy and you know people you know

uh founded trumps and shit like that buried um one of my first homicides i ever went to out there there dude was fucking a weed shit of course how he got found is his dog dug up his fucking hand in his front yard you know what i'm saying and then somebody called that in like hey i think there's a fucking body over here yeah because his partners grow grow go dudes fucking smoke murder his ass you know it it it's a it's a fucking gnarly place man and it's like they had that netflix episode murder mountain um that's from humble I've seen it, but it's Humboldt County, which is the neighboring bordering county to Mendocino County where I worked. It was hilarious to me.

I watched it at the time. I lived in Koblo. I'm like, dude, they completely, it's an interesting story. Don't get me wrong. And it's pretty egregious. But I was like, that is not. They need to come do some shit about this place, man. It's fucking like 20 times worse.

Because like for us around harvest, right? You would get the trimmigrants that would come in. That's what we called them. So people from Peru, Brazil, Portugal. New York, they would come in and trim and back then you could make a shitload of fucking money trim and wheat, you know, 300 bucks a pound, fucking whatever. And but the problem was a lot of these people were never getting heard from again. Their family was calling us saying, hey, our son went to work, our 25 year old son,

or daughter said they were going to work on a farm of some kind and your county. We're from Philadelphia. We haven't heard from them in six months and that's it because when it comes time to pay depending on who you go and trim for what's easier right so and it's the national forest it's like the guys that dig the whole the tunnels for the cartel in mexico you know they keep them there in a warehouse have them dig the tunnels and three months after the tunnels three months of working you're promised a whole bunch of money then when the tunnel's done they bring you back they have you dig a big trench and they take you out and execute you you in the desert and they bury you. And you're just some poor kid from some town a hundred

miles away from where the tunnel is. Your family hasn't seen you in three months. Nobody knows where you are. Like, why would I pay you the $30,000 or $50,000 I promised you when I could just execute you. I mean, we're already, you know what I'm saying? We're already in the middle of nowhere. We're already the cartel. Like these are all, these guys are mostly murderers anyway. You're just some peasant from the middle of nowhere. Nobody's going to miss you. But your family, they don't know where you're at yeah well and to prove that point too that the you know mom's calling hey my you know my son went to somewhere called covello yeah what are you going to do right right it's like they already know but these dudes would know because out there like I said to the rural aspect this isn't

like a populated area like I said there's no again lights no cameras no nothing you kill people a lot of unsolved homicides out there one of them was the most notable one I was involved in in 2018 it's still unsolved to this day we know who the suspect is He's still fucking living there. But that's how easy it is to kill somebody out there and completely get away with it. Even if you're fucking sloppy as fuck. And, you know, that wasn't everybody out there that obviously went out and then they never got heard from again. But it was a every fucking, every harvest, every harvest, man, like for just every year.

It was, it was like that. So, but we were told, you know, I got told by my sergeant, dude, go around town when you see all these people coming in with accents from France and all over the world, bro. they would come to this little town in fucking Mendocino County year every fucking harvest dude it was wild and hundreds of them and but they wanted us to go around and warn them say hey you need to get the fuck out of here you're you're there's a high likelihood you're never going to get hurt from again or the girls some sexual shit that you don't want to happen to you there because that happened too a lot and it was horrible fucking horrible um and yeah so uh But yeah, it was just, you know, for me, it's too much, man.

You know, and I got really close with a lot of people out there because I'd worked there so long. And, you know, a lot of them started dying for various reasons, not in good ways either. And coupled with, you know, everything else, like I said. So anyway, so I gave a month and a half notice and went to the PD as a sergeant. And it was more bullshit there. My lieutenant at the time, he, apparently I didn't know this guy at all. I had been friends with him for, like, some years. And he had turned into a tyrant power tripping.

I had knew some stuff about his history, but not all of it. And all my subordinates fucking hated him. This is a very small department at the new one. We had like 11 people total. And he was running the chief there because the chief was soft. He was from like L.A. But he was old. And a lot of those older chiefs will come up to Mendocino County or smaller cities

to finish their fucking retirement at the chief pay, whatever. So he was just doing a bunch of. shit and making our lives fucking miserable too lying wanted me to write my dudes up for bullshit wanted us to go and force our quotas okay so yeah quotas fucking exist man i'm so sick of people hearing that dude or cops lying to people they fucking exist when you don't give somebody a ticket and your supervisor bidses you out for it because you're not you're not uh performing like you should you're expected to especially to your peers that's called a quota you don't use the term quota but those things exist i worked for a department

apartment you the city generates revenue from some of those tickets and if you're a highway guy the state does right if you're issuing like you know registration and shit like that so right i didn't believe in it i had been a deputy i was dealing with people getting their fucking you know heads chopped off and shit man i'm like i'm like i'm not gonna go force people to write window 10 tickets bro i was like i got 10 on my car i'm not going to go get forced people to get jammed up for shit that i also have i have no front plate no and my subordinates would be like hey train are you going to get in trouble i said i don't really care man because my lieutenant at the time and this was a small town too man it was 4 000 people and it was again like disneyland different pop type of um not not not the crazy crime shit stuff did happen there for sure but i'm like bro we have to community police this place man it is very small this is not the bay area okay or la or fucking miami right it's it's very small so if we start pissing people off and jamming them up for a little bullshit. I said, we are not going to get any cooperation when we're trying to solve crimes. We're going to like create an even bigger divide, which is already hugely

prevalent because this is like George Floyd was around this time and, you know, COVID and all that shit too. So like there was a lot of shit in the media hating cops. I said, this is the last thing we need to be doing right now. But you know, what I was going to mention to you is, you know, the, what I don't think people really understand is that, you know, by by giving tickets, like that generates income for the, you know, the city, the police department. And, you know, so, you know, in a lot of ways, like they want you to give it. Of course, you know, they want you to give tickets. Why? It would generate money. It puts money in our coffers. And it's not that they're making it up. It's like just enforce these policies as best you can or, you know,

you know, on an extreme level, on a very liberal level. But I was going to say, um, my sister was kind of like on a sub-council in Temple Terrace. Temple Terrace is a little town outside of Tampa. And I remember they had gone to the city council and said, look, you've got these no-you-turn signs that literally go for about two miles. Like you can't turn around in Temple Terrace on this little street. Like, it's dangerous to, it's dangerous to try and turn around there. And I get the U-turn signs.

But it's just such a pain in the ass. And it's always been an issue. So she goes there and says, look, why don't we get rid of these signs at you know at least between here and here and one of the city you know one of the um city council members said okay i understand which which police officer do you want to let go and they were like she was like what do you mean he said those signs generate 80 000 a year for our police department or for for our city so we would have to let at least one officer go to generate the money to to you know because we're going to lose 80,000

out of our budget. That's a police officer. And, and she was like, like, wow, I had no, I didn't realize that. It's the same thing with those cameras on the, you know, the street cameras. My brother-in-law fought Temple Terrace and made them get rid of them. They were jet, those cameras were generating like a million dollars. How? a half a million dollars a year. They were furious about it. So, you know, so sometimes it's like they're, they're trying to enforce. It's not that they're necessarily being, you know, total jerks about it, but like that does generate money. So of course there's quotas. Yeah. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Like, there are quotas like just to think even if you're like you said,

they're not, they're not specified. Like you have to give it, but they, they want that money coming in. It's, it's a quota. I don't care what anybody says. And that that drove me nuts when I would hear cops say that. Even when I was growing up, quotas don't exist young man. Really? Okay. Then why do you guys got Why do you want you to write the tickets? Yeah. So why do you guys have whiteboards in your in your briefing room with tally marks

under who has the most speeding tickets, tent tickets, etc? You're keeping tabs. Why is the city manager coming into my department when I worked there to bitch out the chief who would bitch out my lieutenant who would bitch me out this is how this conversation started because we're not writing enough tickets for the city?

Yeah, they won't have money. Now, tickets have their place. I'm not stating that they don't. They're there for a reason, but also discretion is there for a reason. Like, for example, where I'm at right now, so this other, the other day, I had a guy, an officer works for KT police department here in Texas. Dude should never be a cop. He's a fucking sack of shit.

So he pulls me over. So 30 mile an hour zone, broad daylight, 9.30 in the morning on a Tuesday in a business park. There's a mall, there's a hotel, there's businesses and shit. so before I even get on the roadway from this parking lot 600 feet away I have his body cam that's how I know this he did 60 miles an hour in a 30 on his motorcycle blow but blew by two cars to pull me over for tent endangering the lives of every that's reckless driving right so um I was very polite I rolled down all my windows had my hand on the steering wheel um and he was a fucking asshole most of the motor guys are

when you choose to do a job like that now it does have its place um You've made a decision on what type of cop you are. So this dude's 56 years old, never been promoted, scratching shitty tickets still. Okay. Lecturing me, he's like, well, so you don't know the law. Like, you know, and I'm like, not, I do. I used to be a cop. You know, I'm a PI.

I also use this vehicle for surveillance and stuff too. Not, you know, he's like, that doesn't make it okay. I'm like, I know it doesn't. You ask me why I have it. Long story short, I filed a complaint against him for endangering the public, doing double the speed limit to get me for a very shitty little equipment violation. I would have actually been fired or heavily reprimanded if I did that at either of my other agencies. And as a sergeant, prior sergeant, if one of my guys had done that, they're fucked.

They're off the street, dude. I had pursuits canceled for less than that. Dude, I chased this guy that shot his fucking brother with a shotgun out in Covalho. And I chased his ass at nighttime, which is very whirl. And me and my sergeant and my other buddy, you know, we fucking, I might have, you know, I ended up colliding with this guy's fucking vehicle. on the dirt and my brakes locked up. We got in trouble for chasing a tempted fucking murder suspect, but out here, I talked to their captain, too,

Witech, WIotech, whatever. He was like, no, he's good all day. It's justified. And I'm like, what the fuck is justified? And, you know, but out here in Texas, they can actually do, and this motorcycle cop told me too. I said, what happens if I don't take care of the tent? I can take you to jail.

They actually can, in the state of Texas. and do arrest people for window tent, rolling a stop sign, no seatbelt. If you're not playing there, not winning the attitude test, yeah, they will. And he told me that, too, have it on body cam. But anyway, so to go to that, it didn't meet my, that department didn't, his supervising style didn't meet what I had come to know. And you have to develop relationships with people. I was an expert at this point in community policing, community relations, because again,

I was always at the schools, the middle school, high school, businesses I visited every fucking day. Everybody in that town, Kobolo had my cell phone number. Even dudes I arrested, obviously, they were snitching for me, right? So I would get calls out there, bro. Like, hey, Trent, I heard you were looking for me. I know I have a warrant. Where do you?

I'm going to meet you. Like, that's just the type of relationship and respect. But that took years to build, man. Years. Years to fucking build that shit. They also have to trust you, too, that you're not going to snit. them out when they're fucking snitching right so that's a whole there's a whole dynamic to that whole thing i just oversimplified the fuck out of it it was a lot of work and a lot of guys can do it

i'm not special by any fucking means but um so he was he was doing shit and and um yeah long story short uh i was so fucking miserable there and i was so burnt um that i decided to i also at this point in time had a huge uh break in my mind um And what they don't talk, you know, PTSD, right? So like it, it's very frowned upon to talk about in cop world just like it is to snitch on other cops when you're a cop, but it's very taboo. You do not fucking, you don't talk about it. You don't get help. Otherwise you're a pussy.

Some of my friends that were justified at shoot, kill people and stuff, all justified. They got all fucked up. And my lieutenants, one of them was Andrew Porter, was calling one of my best friends a pussy to in front of me and other guys. He's fucking being a bitch. He actually texted that guy when he was off of work on health stress, stress leave for multiple shootings and crazy shit he got into. And he had worked with me some in Koblo and said, hey, I need you to come back.

Like, we're short staffed. I don't want this toxicity to spread. And people think they could just go out on leave. Legit text message of that shit, bro. Like, have it. So I, but so it's very taboo. And you're not supposed to do it. You're less than a man according to a lot of these guys.

but these are the dudes that would go home and get drunk blacked out drunk seven nights a week they would hit their wives who would not report it officially a couple tried to um that's how they medicate right uh or drugs one of my buddies that is around my age he overdosed on heroin in uh the sheriff's office when i worked there when i was living in coblo um in his home in his bathroom because he was doing fucking heroin that's how he medicated they wouldn't let him time off of work he begged for it because he was he he saw some a lot of shit too and and they said nope tough shit dude were short staff so he decided to do what he did and anyway so i i saw one thing you know like uh at the police department that did it wasn't even a big deal man like somebody

fucking um like died in my hands which i've had happened before it wasn't a big deal at all and i'd seen so many uh dead people at that point in like the craziest ways you can think of it was very just normal for me but for whatever reason it tipped it tipped tip the ship and i all this shit fucking hit me at once it's like a cumulative whatever they talk about so i went to my lieutenant i'm like bro i'm all fucked up dude i got i got i got i got i got to i got to take some time off the street and he told me in his office he's like well this is he's like what the fuck he's like you're going to fuck your career bro you're going to go out on the mental health thing right now and i said i just need some fucking time what the fuck and he was my friend this is why we talked

like this so um he's like do you understand what you're doing right now like you're going to go you're potentially ruining your fucking entire career and i was like i don't really give a fuck anymore bro and i didn't i was so miserable and like so i went out on stress leave with behind my back he was telling my subordinates that i was a pussy um and i had the human human resources lady calling me saying trant i need a doctor's note stating you can feed and water your dog because at this point the city had bought him otherwise we're going to come take him so i had made a decision at that point that i was going to stop being a cop altogether and i had listed my house for sale i was dating a girl in in ralando at the time so i was going to move to florida and just do something else

with my life i was like i have experience i have a degree fuck this shit this whole county is fucked up and corrupt and so he uh i go back to work i had reapplied at the sheriff's office again because my plan was to go work there until my house sold just because it was so bad at the police department so fucking much worse I was going to go out into the woods and covalo again chill there away from everybody the administration for hopefully no more than like a month and I thought the hiring thing was going to be quick but so I put in an app they scheduled me for an interview my lieutenant found out about it he and he asked me about it I was like I don't you know I don't know but at the time I actually had pulled my app because I had made

a firm decision that like dude I'm just going to never mind I pulled my out from the sheriff's office. I didn't even get to do. I didn't do the interview. And I'm like, I'm out altogether. So long story short, he stopped talking to me for two fucking weeks because he still thought I was going to go back to the sheriff's office. And we worked a shift together.

So he was telling my subordinate to come tell me, give me orders, which made my subordinate very uncomfortable. And I said, this won't last very long because I'm going to quit as soon as my fucking house sells, bro. And I'm going to Florida. So fuck all of you. But I got along really fucking well with, with those guys um and so uh but yeah at the end of the two weeks i got called into the chief's

office and there's the chief my lieutenant and um karen the bitch from hell from human resources that was harassing me about my dog and um the chief was like trent you're not happy here i said nope and he said well you're still a probationary employee the probation period there's like 18 fucking months made it was a year and a half it was wild so um we don't have to give you a reason you're getting let go, but we're going to give you a memo of reasons why. Trent, I still have the shit, dude. It's like Trent failed to walk his canine downtown when he got asked to. Trent completed an online certification, but failed to complete it in a timely manner.

Like just little bullshit, bro, no policy violations, no law violations. I was like, great, fuck you, dude. Shortly after that, I started my confessions of an ex-cop YouTube channel and blasted everything I knew about these fucking guys. And, you know, it wasn't just to clarify, I never saw dudes. personally ripping people off unjustifiably beating the fuck out of people um doing crazy shit otherwise i would have reported it but it wasn't it's not that type of situation of people like why don't you report it it's like well first of all i did try i tried i had a long conversation with the captain who didn't give a fuck um he didn't care the sheriff too and uh they didn't care

and what i can't go above that nobody gives a fuck um so then right after that that lieutenant that you know was involved in my termination um got fired for sexually harassing hard pretty hardcore if female officer there that was my subordinate um he also got another girl's phone number during an i a he put his sergeant in it was 25 years old he is 50 and married with kids ended up fucking her hooking up with her from the iA so he's doing the iA she's a witness to the iA yeah get your number down later go fucker right and he what's what's an iA Eternal affairs investigation. Internal affairs of it.

Yeah, so when you do, so his sergeant had done something he wasn't supposed to. This girl was a witness to it. So he's the lieutenant is doing an investigation. Right. His name's Derek Kendry, the lieutenant. He's all over fucking Google too. And so he gets her number and goes and hooks up with her. He called me train with my wife, ass.

I'm at your house. Right. Then some of his informants came forward once he had been terminated. So he got fired. And also right when they let me go, like, A dude quit like every people quit and they transferred out that department like went to shit really quick and then he gets fired and then some of his old informants come forward and say hey he used to rate me on duty he would steal my fucking meth and heroin because his his um and looking back his prime informants were young impressionable girls I'm talking like early mid 20s bro right that are new to the new users new users from meth and heroin right because they're get they get hooked up it's that that shit's fucking i do i've seen in covalo some like really attractive women they get hooked up with the wrong dude and then you see the years progress

and then dude you don't recognize them anymore they're missing their fucking hair they have pop marks all over their face they've been in and out of jail a million times they've been passed around at this point by like 87 different dudes him and his friends and so that's the that's the that's the people that he would have for his niches right but they were starting to come forward and then a neighboring agency did a search warrant on his house and seized his fucking electronic devices and all kinds of shit but check this out the crimes themselves happened in menacino county okay so they did the search warrant and this is all within the last couple of years man they forwarded it to willets police department which is the department i worked at who

forwarded it to the local ds office because that's where the jurisdiction of the crimes right they had I didn't outside agency do it, which is very common for potential. Yeah, you don't bias. Right. Yeah. Right. Guess who's still not been in any fucking court proceedings, him? Why?

Who's his best, one of his really close friends? The fucking DA there. And it's crazy, dude. We had that police chief I told you about and that his buddy that was a sergeant of the PD, um, kicked down a fucking hooker's hotel room door in the middle of the night, sexually fucking assaulted her and and all kinds of shit he got fired caught a case got a felony now that town's fucked up dude and so i started my youtube channel people like oh god there's no wait trend and then all these things with these guys start fucking happening um they're like oh shit

the other thing too is that riko case so in 2018 i was working in covalo and a guy that i later became friends with was rolling through mendocino county uh prior business executive and he's also a movie producer and he gets pulled over by two dudes that are uh no patches no name tags unmarked fucking car sorry this was december i think of 2017 um they searched his shit no probable cause no warrant no nothing they said they were ATF agents right he had three pounds of weed because at the time he was um he's a business guy he was trying to start a legitimate fucking weed business he had different strains and shit that he was trying to do stuff with it was three fucking pounds though even then it was still a misdemeanor um so they took his weed didn't give him any paper

no citation no court dates and he's he was actually a prior cop two for five years in um san antonio texas back in the day can you realize while this was happening something he did yeah very quickly he's like what the fuck he's like who are you guys and they're like oh i t yeah for sure long story short with that case this part of the RICO investigation so he named um one of the guys names was huffaker who was a PD cop for a agency just to the south of mendicino county and this was like right on the county line but it was in mendicino county the other guy he identified was bruce smith who at the time ran the comet which is a marijuana unit for the sheriff's office that i worked at so those two dudes and so uh so uh

Then his name is Zeke Flatton, the guy that got pulled over. So Zeeke calls the sheriff's office like, dude, I just got fucking robbed in your county. They didn't believe him. He got fucked around for a while. And then he had to get the media involved who started harassing the sheriff's office there. And it was just a bunch of denies, denies, denies. They're like, there's no way, blah, blah. And so he called the ATF too.

He was like, hey, did you guys fucking roll me? So they started putting pressure on the sheriff's office there. And then when the ATF got involved is when Huffaker's partner, J.C. Tatum, that also worked for Rona Park Police Department, where they both worked, the neighboring county, finally types up a report for the stop. They said 30 pounds a week, even though it was only three. The undershare for the time, Randy Johnson, he lied and said like, oh, yeah, this is this guy's fucking trafficking. and he called Zeke, too, to talk to him about it. He's like, yeah, we got you on video. He's like, great, where the fuck is the body cam?

So, one story short with that, there's guys at the sheriff's office. They're involved. It's been going to court for fucking years now. Both those Werner Park guys got fired. They've been snitching, too. The investigation is still ongoing, but it involves the prior sheriff, Tom Allman, that hired me, his undersheriff, Randy Johnson, Bruce Smith, that ran the marijuana unit at the time and some other fucking cops there still still ongoing but they have a lot of

fucking evidence against those dudes the other thing is too randy johnson the undersheriff when i was a deputy there this just brought back to me when i was a deputy his spot his house got hit once sorry twice two separate occasions once was the DEA the second time was when i still worked there there was a fire at his house okay so fire guys showed up to it and he was the undersheriff at this time firefighters show up and And they go to his house. Oh, fuck, it's the undersheriff's house. Holy fuck, there is a shitload of fucking weed here.

Just growing, right? So they call Tom Allman and the marijuana unit shows up. Two of my friends were in the unit at that time. And there's one. So he lived on a compound. The undersheriff did, right? It was just a circle. I mean, it wasn't a circle, but it was a little compound.

He had his house, his brother's house. And I think like their parents maybe, but all within close proximity. It wasn't like 200 acres. It was like maybe like a couple acres, but you could see one way, one way in and one way out only of the property, one driveway. These dudes show up. And two of my friends that were on the unit at the time, I'm like, bro, what was up with the weed there? He's like, dude, there was a bunch of fucking weed. But he said there were so big ass plants that were hanging over the fucking fence to the driveway as you fucking drive.

into his property. So it's like he can't deny that that shit was being grown there. Right. So the sheriff at the time showed up and told him, you guys say anything about this? Like you're basically fucking fired. Like no. And yeah, so they were basically sworn to secrecy.

And the undersheriff, his brother was the one that caught the case for that. Because, you know, he's the under sheriff. right so it could have been his weed too i don't know but the fact of the matter is it's on his property still he's seen it driving in and out and this go this is such a long history with this county bro like the the d a before that was there when i was in high school norman vroman he's all over google too uh the feds did a fucking warrant we're going to do a warrant on his personal house because he had a fat fucking weed grow on his property and he was stealing fucking guns that they would take for cases and shit three days before

they hit his spot because he was going to go to prison he had a heart attack and fucking died so the whole it's crazy it's a crazy it that whole place is its own fucking movie dude like multiple movies um they actually wrote two books about the town that i worked in in cobalow um one of them's 1500 bucks it's called genocide of mededa and the other one's called kings around valley which is a loose um tail uh fictionalized tale of the shannon barney uh the old lieutenant and the wife swap and shit somebody wrote a story about those fucks so uh but it's a crazy place man but it goes back generations man like even when i was growing up there because it's so small and and rural and everybody knows

everybody you hear all these stories and it's like everybody knew them but then when you get into the cop world the stories then become true and you start to figure out how they become true and what happens so um you know like one of my prior sergeants man he fucking he he he this is before my time but he gets a he gets a task with this call this assignment so that that that that cop that was telling you about shan and barney that was living in cobal at the time that was a sergeant that supervised the the crew out there the two that killed themselves so he gets this uh a citizen in cobalo calls in say hey man i got shan and barney this lieutenant this sergeant guy uh in his fucking weed farm because he grew weed out there was common knowledge um i have it on it was like video or

photographs files the complaint and one of the old sergeants uh for whatever reason gets tasked with doing the investigation on that and it was legit as fuck that sergeant called him when he heard about it and said dude do not fuck me over he was all crying and drunk and shit and he submitted the case up to the chain through the chain of command it was all legit disappeared into the fucking night man you know so it's all about weed there dude Because you're pulling over cars sometimes, you know, especially when it was at its peak, $250,000, $500,000 fucking cash in the fucking trunk. A lot of people moving.

Wait, dude, I was pulling over fucking U-Hauls. Well, that's where all the cartel guys drive, right? When you see a U-Haul coming out of the fucking valley out of Covalo down into the main highway 101, it's filled with fucking weed 900% of the time. Thousands of pounds of fucking processed, right? how easy is that to and it was for these dudes to fucking take okay you got a thousand pounds in the back of you hall you got two dudes that are from Mexico here illegally okay maybe we only have 400 pounds that they have you know what I'm saying and then they take it they sell it and

through this RICO case a lot of people have started to come out of the woodwork now people that were prior growers back when it was a crime that have now become legit but the fear factor was so huge for these people now they're coming up like in other parts of the county yeah we were getting extorted they came onto our property dug up our cash took our fucking weed no reports no nothing um but back then it's like do you want to go what are you going to do you're you're growing illegally and if you get a catch a case back then you can go to prison so what are you going to do call a uh sheriff yeah one of your guys just came out here and ripped me off my illegal fucking wegrow and implicate yourself no yeah i was i was i were i remember talking to a you know

multiple mexicans in county jail well which was the u.s marshals holdover and in prison where they would say they get pulled over by um by whatever you know sometimes whatever sheriff's deputies state you know the state troopers and they'd search their car and they go look you know we found I don't know the amount, but let's, you know, we found this much heroin on you. And we found this much cash. Now, in the federal system, they're going to convert this cash to heroin. So you're going to get hit with, you know, a pound of heroin. That's a mandatory minimum of 15 years.

Or I can take the $15,000 of or $20,000 in cash and I can say I only found $2,000. And you'll probably only get five years. What do you want me to do? Which one do you want me to put into evidence? And they'd go, put the $2,000 in. There you go, okay, cool. Your isn't going to come up later, right? You're not going to be mentioning that there's money missing?

Nope, absolutely not. Okay, cool. And then they just walk off with the money. Or they take half the, half the, you know, heroin or whatever it was. And they'd still arrest them, but you're either getting 10, you know, 15 years or five. What do you want it to be? Right. It's like, fuck.

Yeah. Maybe before body cameras and all that shit. Well, even they still don't have body cams at the sheriff's office I worked at in 2003. We had watch card. It wasn't even there when I first started. I used to drive one of the piece of shit fucking old crown vicks when I first started. Actually, it's a badass car.

I would like bomb around in the fucking hills and that thing. It was nuts. But they only had the watch card, like the dash cam, right? Right. For vehicle pullovers. That doesn't show you shit when you're in homes, when you're doing fucking whatever. They still do not have that sheriff refuses to get. And I'm like, that's a red flag, bro, because I actually like them because what it did for me when I went to the PD because we had them there is people were coming and complain about somebody, one of my guys, perfect.

For me, then my lieutenant can easily pull up the fucking body cam. Not that body cams show the whole fucking picture, man. That shit drives me nuts too. There is so much shit sometimes, dude, that like the public doesn't understand. Some dudes, we were getting shooting on site, depending based on what they had just done. their fucking criminal history this this this and this and this and that's why sometimes the media sees these videos like oh he wasn't even armed it's like do you do not know what you're talking about yes sometimes it is not justified that's what we see too yeah of course but i'm just saying like

but they are more of a benefit than a hindrance in my opinion and it's a red flag when you're not wanting to fucking do some shit like that so um uh also while i was there this started in 2019 man this is the biggest fucking issue I had, the biggest case I had an issue with. The other lieutenant that told you was a prior Northenio gang member, sold meth and all this shit. He lived on the coast. So I'm there was a child, child, child, okay, child pornography. So for where we worked in Sacramento, which is like the, the eastern, northeastern part of California, they have a ICAC there, internet crimes against children. They monitor all the child pornography being watched, downloaded, fucking sold online, whatever.

So they get a hit. They will obtain the whatever is being watched on that device, the images and stuff like that and send it to the county of jurisdiction. So in 2019, they had a hit in Mendocino County. Two dudes get assigned to the fucking case at the sheriff's office. They do a search warrant for the IP address. Comes back to the lieutenant's house. That's fucking weird. Let's do a search warrant to the internet provider.

Okay, it's Comcast under the lieutenant's name. Okay, that's fucking weird. Who lives in the lieutenant's house at the time? The lieutenant, his wife, his, like, at the time it was like his 12 or 13 year, like 13 year old daughter. And his, at the time he was 18 year old son, okay? So let's do some common sense here. It's more than likely going to be the lieutenant or his son, okay? And no, it's not anybody pulling up in front of their house jacking their Wi-Fi and watching kid porn on the shit.

okay so for i had like dumb ass people tell me that's not how that this process works so in these types of cases which get done all the time it usually takes on the higher end like a month so you get that shit you verify the residence time is of the essence then you're going to want to go fucking hit the house seize the cell phones the laptops the fucking TVs whatever whatever is is has the ability to watch or look at those types of images okay um so they get the the information that's the lieutenant's house they go to the sheriff the sheriff says i want nothing to fucking do with that take it to the d a takes it to the d a and then it disappears for two fucking years two years again this was in 2019 uh september 25th of 2019 to be exact um

and so after i left cop world i started my you know my confessions of a next cop channel i did a video on this in 2021 November almost two years later I said dude what the fuck is going on with this case it should not take two years bro like these things are done in a matter of like a month it's it's very quick they're very easy it's it's not that complicated um and so and they've already verified where the house is at you're supposed to go do a search warrant for the residents at that point so I did my video on it I said this is who's involved this is what's gone on the sheriff ain't doing shit. This is a two-year case. What the fuck? This is clearly a cover-up. So two months, almost to the day after I do that video, after it's been two years, Sacramento magically

finalizes the case. Oh, we're done now. It's all good. Yep. We found out it was not the lieutenant. It's his son, who was 23 then at that point. Or 22. Sorry. Yeah, that's it. And then his son catches a fucking case, which is still ongoing. from 2000 fucking well 2019 now so it's a four year child porn case um but what what what so matt can that kent mac kentle the sheriff comes in doesn't uh an article after my video comes out and he's like yeah so i had initially cleared my lieutenant after three days in 2019 he was cleared he was all good actually i didn't clear him sacramento did they cleared my lieutenant after three days in november they kicked that off to them i think november 19th 2020 if they cleared him

what took so long to indict the character. Right, so I'm going to get to this, right? So, so he didn't realize that he fucked up his own life so many times because he's, he got put in that position at that, right in the middle of the RICO case, dude. The main sheriff, Tom Alman, retired early, halfway through his fucking turn when Zeeq Flatton got rolled, pulled over and robbed on the side of the highway, the main sheriff fucking retires right at the beginning of that, gives the job to Matt Kendall, who had not that long before that been a regular fucking sergeant okay like you know he wanted the distance himself right so

uh he gets so he he he says in this article i cleared him after three days uh and then and so it was all good well first of all he should have put him off work fucking immediately number one number two they never hit his house to do a search warrant on the house itself um it was remote shit only um and And so in my mind, what you just said. Okay, you clear your lieutenant after three days. Process of elimination. Who's probably going to be next? The 13 year old girl, I doubt it.

The wife. I doubt it. Because this was like legit kid porn, bro. I'm talking like, you know, under 10 years old. Right. Right. So next logical choice, his son. The funny thing about this is, or tragic thing is, or the ghost speaks to the corruption.

He cleared his lieutenant after three days in November 2019. then later in 2000 the beginning of 2021 he was allowing his son to go through the hiring process at the sheriff's office knowing full fucking well he was the next logical suspect so i do my video shortly after that he gets washed from the fucking program at the sheriff's office then in this latest article in two two years later yeah i cleared my lieutenant after three days but then he fucks up and he says uh yeah sack finally concluded it and the ia the eternal affairs investigation of my lieutenant is finally closed and we now determined it was his son so he admits in there that that whole two years his lieutenant was actually still a fucking suspect and that i a was open that whole fucking time meaning he should not have been allowed to go to work but he was work never took a day off come to find out i found out how he really cleared his lieutenant is he looked at his watch card footage and matched the times with when the kid porn was being watched at his house and he's like yeah i couldn't have been him all right yeah okay

bro so uh his his kid fucking takes this takes this wrap in my opinion i still think it was him and his kid's taking the fucking hit on this i could be wrong i don't have proof of that but what i do know is that's never how that goes under any circumstances matt kendall trying to blame covid oh this is why it took longer no if they can clear your your lieutenant in three days it should take another three days to clear the fucking son dude or to say if it's him or not right and that was still before covid covid didn't really really hit until like fucking march of 2020 so you got like four months almost to make this fucking happen dude again this does not take this long so he was blaming excuses and then um his kid lieutenant son um got a letter from the DA's office there mailed to him a cute little letter in the mail

hey man yeah you're the suspect now in this kid porn case can you please uh at your convenience go check yourself into the uh mendicino county jail book in it will be an immediate book and release no bail no nothing just go take your little picture so he does you get to let you can you imagine that like you get it like for your shit you just get a fucking letter in the mail from the d a like uh you know mr cox can you please just go check yourself in and then we'll get released right away we'll do a court date later no that never fucking happens especially for kid porn bro you're coming to your house and you deserve to be in a wood chipper honestly for that shit but it's like checks himself in and they never do a press release that was my other biggest thing because it's a

felony well it's a wobbler but you charge it as a felony so the jail did a fucking error and listed his booking shit as a misdemeanor because i did a secondary video once i found out it was him and he had been booked in but the sheriff's office didn't say shit and then Matt kindle comes out and like oh yeah the jail messed up uh we didn't do one because of this this and that anyway his kid just did a pled not guilty initially and recently took a plea deal for two years of probation that's it no no registering so so this is the thing too so okay first of all that is a minimum 16 month to a higher in three year in fucking prison for that crime okay right he gets zero incarceration time no jail no prison two years you know what happens to fucking

chomo's in prison man they get the fucking have the fuck up right um so So probation only, registration, yeah, so that warrants a mandatory registration for life. But in his final sentencing, so the deal's already done, but his final sentencing is next month in October, 12th, 17B motion is on the table, meaning that upon successful completion of his probation, two years, he can have that felony dropped to a misdemeanor on his record, which means he only has to register for 10 years at that point. So deal of a fucking lifetime, but according to Matt Kendall's zero preference. treatment with a letter in the mail badass fucking plea deal because he's the son of a lieutenant i don't know i mean i'm not a

fucking detective or anything but i would say there's some shenanigans so anyway i left i fucking moved to florida the sheriff's office continued being fucked up i had a hundreds of people from what i was doing on youtube hundreds people i didn't even know contact me in various ways beg me to go back and run against Matt Kendall as sheriff, and this was in 2020, I think, or 22, sorry. But I hadn't planned to do this, and I was going to start a new life over there on the East Coast. So it was so late in the game. Thousands of people had already sent in their vote.

This was literally like two weeks before the fucking election at this point. So I had to register as a right-in candidate, meaning my name was not on any fucking ballots. you had to know I was running I didn't get a chance to campaign you had to write my fucking name on the ballot if you want to vote for me right right huge disadvantages so I fly back get registered through the fucking county which is a whole other corrupt fucking piece of shit uh and um I didn't even think it was going to be done legit dude even if I had one I was like I'm still going to lose regardless so a lot of people are friends with with the sheriff over there so I'll just say that but so I campaigned for one week

It was like six days. I went to as many places in the county as I could, did meet and greets and shit like that. A lot of people already knew me from working in the areas, but also from, because it's small, but also from YouTube. So campaign for one week as a write-in. And I got 20% of the fucking vote, dude. It was crazy. If I would have ran for thousands of people, like I said, had already voted. I had so many people hit me up way after the fact.

Oh, fuck. I didn't know you were even running. So if I would have ran initially, yeah, I could have still lost for sure. But it would have been very, very fucking close, very close. When you run again? It's a four-year, it's a four-year situation, dude. So he sells another fucking year and a half, two years on the books. I saw people telling me to come back and do it, but I'm like, I can't commit to something that far.

I don't even know what I'm doing next month, right? So I can't commit to something that far in the future. It wasn't something I wanted to do, though. Like, I mean, I wanted to do it because everybody wanted me to do it. And I was like, the only way to help with this fucking corruption in this fucking fucked up place is, try to become one of the main uh like influential like people in power there right to to try to assist in getting rid of uh you know everything that's there because i was going to fire every fucking like all the

lieutenants they were gone there's ways to do it even though they're protected actually they're not as protected as the street cop guys um i was going to completely clean house i'd already do dudes that i knew that i was going to bring in to fill those positions i was going to promote some I had a lot of people that wanted to come work there on the street just because if I would have won. And so I had like a whole fucking plan. And yeah, it just didn't, you know, it didn't fucking work out. Obviously, it was a six day fucking thing. But yeah, it was an interesting, pretty interesting experience.

Well, so what, I mean, you're not in Florida now. Well, yeah, my girlfriend and I broke up a while back and now I'm in Texas in the Houston area. private investigator. I run my own company. So I just been, you know, pretty much doing this and following people still hit me up all the time from Minnesota County because like a lot of these guys, like I said, are catching cases now. They're getting fired. And, you know, that Willits Police Department that I used to work for, I just did a recent video on them. They are, holy shit. They just like terminated all their dudes. The chiefs forced to resign, the one that terminated me. They have like three total cops for that whole department now. It's just, yeah, it's.

It's a long story, man. But yeah, that whole county is so riddled with corruption. It's really, it deserves its own, like I said, its own movie for the stories and the shit that have gone on there.

Like, not just in my time, but even before that. Dudes that got fucking, like, tortured by some of these cops back in the day that still will not report it

even to the feds because they're so fucking scared. So, like, you know, hey, tell us where your fucking money's at. and because everyone's burying it you know you bury your shit they bear with a lot of gold and silver too like growers they deal with precious metals um that's also you know that's very common uh so but uh yeah man lots of people coming up against those guys now witnesses and people that have been um you know victims of the past but it's interesting too because i've gotten a lot

of people that have told me well oh they're just ripping off fucking people that are already committing crimes i'm like people actually say that shit i'm like well yeah but dude two wrongs don't make a fucking right man what the fuck yeah listen absolute yeah absolute power corrupts absolutely so that's not gonna stick that that facet is gonna run through every vein you know so yeah and you've seen you know you see these guys on on some of these cops on tic talk and and shorts and on videos where it's like you're like you know there some of them are just out of control they're you know they're pulling over traffic stop talk screaming at old ladies and just regular people on a traffic stop because I didn't I didn't pull over right away.

I went on a side street and they get a they run over there yanking open car doors and screaming at people's like bro it's this traffic stop like I was yeah you know what I'm saying like what are you doing it's some you know some people just shouldn't be shouldn't be cops well and and I agree with you I've actually so I've seen that type of shit right um and it's it's it's people that right they shouldn't have been hired they got into law enforcement for the wrong reason. They don't have the right temperament. The thing that benefited me is

and what a lot of cops don't have the ability to do is to put themselves in other people's shoes. Because everybody to them is a bit to not okay not everybody. I mean like some some not all of the guys that I worked with especially the older generation everybody that's a criminal is a piece of shit. Everybody

dude you grow weed piece of shit. You've been arrested piece of shit. And It's like, they would say that too, you know? They think of people, criminals is like less than human. Not all cops. I just want to say this over and over again. It's not all fucking cops, but some of the guys that did see this with. And in my mind, I always thought about it like this.

Like, and this is why I was as successful as I did in solving real fucking crimes. And I treated because I treated people with respect, but I could put myself in their shoes. And it's like, dude, if you grew up like they did, you're, not that that's always an excuse, but dude you're already fucked from the get-go man like you have no opportunity your brother your uncle your dad have all been to prison 18 million times your mom's strung out on fucking dope nobody gives a fuck about you your other uncle fucking molested your ass when you were fucking eight um you get into drugs at a young age and it's like so what i always thought of it is like we're not all the fucking same man we're not all one being like we all have different

brain chemistry we grow up differently we have different experiences perceptions values and morals And people really think that we're going to, like, just not have people that break the fucking lot ever. Like, everyone's just supposed to be fucking perfect. Like, no. And so the problem is a lot of cops take that shit personally, like this fucking nerd out here that pulled me over for window tent that was very offended by my illegal window tent. He was not having it. It, like, like he acted like it insulted his mom. You know what I'm saying?

Personally. So, but you have cops that do that. Like, you know, they'll get really mad when you break a. basic ass fucking law law that they probably commit themselves man you know like highway patrol they're big on uh speed and intent and DUIs and all that shit did I remember one day I was driving to work in my cop car these two dudes seven a m racing each other on the highway 120 miles an hour I only got one of them pulled over both of them were off duty highway patrol guys that had just gotten off of fucking work and you know it's like obviously I let that fucking guy go what am I going to do but

but um which is a thing cops give cops breaks it's a discretionary thing at the end of the day but um you know people think what they want is just how it is but it's like also as a deputy we don't write tickets i don't even know where the fuck my ticket book was so uh the hypocrisy is what bugged me because that same dude the next day on shift is going to be giving somebody for a ticket for going 15 over and probably lecture in his ass you know what i'm saying right and that was always a huge problem for me was dudes that i were seen doing the same shit off duty um as on that's why i said i never got anybody in trouble for fucking anything that i was doing myself it's like you can't do it dude uh so it's and yeah sometimes they got they got fucking bullied in high

school and shit and they they power trip when they get the gun in the badge and if they don't have a life experience um then they're those are the ones they beat the fuck out of people unjustifiably shoot people when they shouldn't well also because they don't know how to fucking handle themselves they're they're fat uniform looks like shit command presence is non-existent they don't they've never taken m-ma or fucking boxing wrestling or anything and some guys will size them up and you know they're going to immediately go to their fucking gun right now yeah there was a lot of times I would have been justified on paper so many times so many fucking times dude I lost count shooting somebody and but I knew that the reasons when I didn't for those is like I realized I in my mind I knew it wasn't right I said I can articulate that I don't need to do this because of my abilities you know what I'm saying so but some guys don't do that shit and those are the ones that wind up in the fucking in the media you know what I'm saying so yeah um okay all right well I mean you think there's there anything else we haven't gone over no I mean there is there anything else we haven't gone over no I mean it

It's even still an abridged version, but for the most part, that's, yeah, that's the main, main things there, yeah. Right. And you have, you have two channels, though, right now. Oh, yeah. So I have a, uh, the confessions of an ex cop. That's the main YouTube channel that I started when I was getting out of the cop world. And then my other one, I started with my buddy, who was a sergeant at a different police department in my county that got terminated for basically no fucking reason to. So him and I started a podcast together called two. It's the number two, fired cops. we have the Instagram and all that shit we just started it like I think in May but we talk about

kind of a conversation you and I are having right now like what cops actually think and to kind of and why they do what they do and the realities of it the honest opinions because we're not going to we're not in that world anymore we're not going to get fucking fired again so to let people know too

civilians like what's actually going on here and also cops that again have contacted us that are going through similar shit that we did is very common dude like very common um and and yeah so those are my two my two main cop things that we do that i do on the side if you decide to run for sheriff again let me know we'll do a we'll do a video on it yeah oh yeah you never know hey i appreciate you guys watching the video if you liked it do me a favor hit the like button

subscribe to the channel hit the bell so you get notified of videos like this check out the links in the description box and leave me a comment really appreciate it and i will see you I'm originally from Queens, New York, Rockaway Beach, my whole life. I went to grammar school there and then high school. And after high school, I went in the Navy for about seven years. I was military police, but in a Navy that's called Master at Arms. I served in Desert Storm and I became a military police investigator and then became a instructor for shipboard security engagement tactics so while I was in the Navy the Marshal Service was recruiting they created this program called Operation Shining Star and it was going after targeting military personnel to join

and I was one of them and was selected and went into the Marshal Service in 1995 so how long were you in the Navy almost seven years I went in right out of high school in 1988 and I guess I had in the Navy on a Saturday in June and 95 and on Sunday, June of 95, I was in the Marshal Service. I didn't even have a breaker service at all. Okay. And you know, I went to training in Glencoe, Georgia and then after that I went right to Eastern District of New York, Brooklyn, and served almost all of my 25 years there in Brooklyn.

In the beginning, I started out as a deputy in working court operations. prisoner transport, serving some like civil process, administrative duties, and, you know, do my little rotations in the Warrant Squad. So it took a little bit of little time and then I, you know, gravitated right to doing warrants and work in the street and doing fugitive investigations. And after some special assignments of protection details and even some high-profile trials, I eventually was right into the Warrant Squad and did that. I bet your majority of my career is working warrants and I was lucky enough to be part of the New York, New Jersey Regional Fugitive Task Force,

which started right after September 11th and funded by Congress. It's one of the biggest task forces in the nation and still is. Is that what you, like if you're a police officer like, you know, a lot of them, you know, ultimately they want to work like homicide, you know? They want to, like, that's like, is working the, the, um, the fugitive or the war and the warrant squad, is that like, like what you, like when you join, is that like, that's the goal? That's it for the, yeah, when you're a deputy marshal with the U.S. Marshals, that's the, that's it.

That's the pedestal of being in the Marshal Service. I mean, there's so many different divisions and, and sections, but everybody wants to work fugitive investigation warrants. You want to be on a task force. I mean, I worked with the greatest cops in the world. I worked in when I was in Brooklyn and the city, I worked with NYPD and, you know, coming from New York and then dealing with everybody in the nation here with different states, there's nothing better than, you know, NYPD detectors. They're like the best. And we had dozens of them. We had NYPD sergeants, lieutenants, then we had state police officers, immigration customs officers there at DHS.

We even had relationship with DEA and ATF, even FBI and Secret Service, and we just work together great. And it's, you know, when you join the Marshal Service, you know, you see it on TV and the movies, everybody wants to work fugitive investigations and track down the worst to the worst out there, you know? And in New York, you know, there's no place better to work, the street, than there. So I did that for years and stayed in Brooklyn mainly. And then I was moving up, you know, with seniority.

And then I put in and I took the test and I became a supervisor back in like 2009, 2010. And my chief is a great man. He had a lot of trust and confident in me, selected me to become. the supervisor. I had to do a couple of months in the courthouse, you know, working with everybody in there. And then eventually my chief put me back into the Warren Squad. And next to you know, I'm there supervising now the guys and girls I worked with for years. But it seemed like everybody wanted that. You know, they wanted me back there because I knew what I was doing and I made things happen. And I did that for almost 10 years. Our Warren Squad was part of the New York,

New Jersey, Regional Futative Task Force, which was in Brooklyn, New York City, as well as out in Long Island, which was Nassau and Suffolk County. I was also responsible for that, along with other supervisors. So what happened is out in Long Island, it was a sub-office, and we had a, we had deputy marshals rotating through there. Well, we had one young lady who was really interested in doing it and it was me and another supervisor who selected her to go back there and work with the local officers from Nassau and Suffolk County in Long Island to be full-time on the Warren Squad. And she was going to represent the Eastern District and she was a U.S. Marshal. And this is now the U.S. Marshals, it's our task force. We run it. Okay.

Well, she was doing good for a couple of years. Right. And then some of the guys that she gravitated to, they were older and they retired, you know, and that was kind of like her go-to guys. Well, the other guys in the task force, they didn't really take too kindly to her. They would make fun of her, tease her, and then it just started escalating, and then it got into bullying and then they would blackball her. They would ignore her. They would start messing with her desk. And at one time, she went, you know, you go to Costco or BJs and you

get those big plastic tubs of cookies, animal cook crackers. So she would put them on her desk and share it with everybody. Well, one of these task force officers, local cop, urinated in her cookies and left it there. And she knew. You could smell it. Yeah. Well, what's the issue? Like, why did they... Well, it came out and she was a female.

Right. And she was... She's an Army veteran. She's a U.S. Marshal, and these guys did not want to take orders or directions from her. They just did not want to deal with her. They wanted to be... It was an all guys group out there. Right.

And the icing on a cake is she was a lesbian. Right. person she spoke about she was gay and she had a girlfriend and they did not want that in their group they didn't want to they didn't want to be part of that but this girl she her name's out there dawn she was well known well liked the courthouse everybody in there loved her she was um she was athletic played softball soccer she participated everything she was you know a fun person that have around. How many guys are there here that are doing this? Is it three or is it six? I mean, is there like... Oh, it was up there was four to six guys that were messing with her.

And it got to a point where she brought it to my attention and then I confronted the supervisor that was out there running, handling those guys. And he just ignored it. He said, you know, suck it up. You know, he's not here to be a babysitter. When in fact, you are, you're the supervisor. You have to babysit some of these people. And everybody has to, they need to get along. They need to work as a, as a cohesive group. All the time. And, you know, you have to develop a relationship. You have to be friends. You have to be partners. You have to get along with each other. You have to build something there. I mean, these guys and girls are carrying guns, wearing a vest, you know, work in a street. And you're doing a lot of hours.

So she would do things and be like, hey, you're not checking in with me. You're not telling me you're doing hits. They would just go and do interviews and arrest people and not even tell her. And she's the team leader. She's the boss. So after these guys found out, we spoke to the supervisor out there, they got more in range. So then they would, now they would bully her and argue with her, totally ignore her. And then start teasing her.

They would, in any, any marshal's office you work in, you know, you transport prisoners and they try to bring their legal work to the Excel block. Right. And in their legal work is porn books. Right. You know, so we would seize that. They would be in a box. Next thing you know, some of these magazines are heading up on her desk and they're opening up

pictures of girls on top of girls. They're playing porn in the office where you hear the moaning. and she's the only woman back there. So it's a couple of guys against her. We bring that forward to and nothing happens, but now it just escalates more and more. Well, there was one task force officer who had Spanish heritage

and he came out and he made her kiss him every morning to say hello. And this is on your team. These are your co-workers. and she just did it all the time and just fell into that, you know, comfort of doing it. And when she told me about it, I was like, are you kidding? You got to be kidding me. Like, this, we don't do this.

I don't even do that with half my family members giving kisses hello. So that man at one point grabbed her in the office when she was trying to walk by and started almost groping her and just filling her up and calling her a sexy bitch. And other people saw it and they laughed. She felt embarrassed. She was crying. She was humiliated. She left.

So then she called me and then that was it. I was like, you're just stay home. And then I confronted the supervisor again. And he now then went and said something to the guys. And it went over the weekend and that guy was told not to come back. well two other guys didn't like that so they showed up on one morning while they were preparing to do a hit and the rest and people were like why are you guys here you're on a different team and they were like oh we're just here to back you up so when they went in the house they get the perp but

dawn was sitting on another person in the house just watching right and one of those guys walked by and pushed her shove their hitter like a shoulder to the back right and made stumble and this gave her a look and the look was after she told me was we can get to you right you know what are you doing why are you talking this stuff so that moment i told i took her off the task force had to go report it to my chief and um she just reported so much more stuff that was happening and it went up to chain to headquarters at the marshal service and in the beginning internal Affairs was going to investigate this, but some other leadership personnel who were over the task force got involved and suggested that they have an investigator come and investigate

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And all these people involved. Even they interviewed people that were never even there, but were part of the task force, just couldn't stop praising the great work and personalities of these other guys. Right. Which we all knew was fault. We all knew. You just know. You know, and too many other people were coming and making.

supporting Dawn's allegations. Well, well, that was going on to one task force officer who hit Dawn, shoved her. He found out I was going to a New York Mets baseball game during this investigation. And him and a couple other task force officers made it a point to go to that baseball game, which was in Queens, and it was on law enforcement appreciation night. And he confronted me at the game, and we got into the game. and we got into a big argument cursing and nose to nose we were going to fight

and it went on for a couple of seconds and then it just stopped I walked away and left and I reported it to my chief like this is what happened this is going to be an off through the incident you know I'm going to get investigated

but so strange that it was law enforcement appreciation night there was a bunch of members from the New York City task force office there who witnessed and one happened to be the chief of the whole task force. So the next day he made it a point to remove that task force officer from the task force. But he was still able to work with them, but he couldn't be in the courthouse anymore. It couldn't be in the office space.

So the results come out about the office culture investigation. Right. So now my chief is livid. He's like, this is insane. you know first of all I wasn't even there when these things were happened so how can I be a bad supervisor and when I did hear about it I reported it got involved and confronted the supervisor so my chief and the marshal then argue with the leadership from the marshal's headquarters and he's you know they go through the whole list of complaints they're like you investigated all

this and went through this stuff and found nothing nothing at all you're going to let this deputy marshal female tell you that somebody peed in her food right and you're going to ignore it well one of the people on that telephone call said he didn't know about that and now that we bring that to his attention he's going to instruct internal affairs to investigate that specific incident just that one right not these are the ones that she had listed so you wait a month or two internal affairs comes into the office which they're terrible they're absolutely horrible they're the people that cannot get into the Warren Squad, they're jealous, they're angry, you know, they're tools.

Right. So they come in. Now their first person they want to interview is the guy who tried to fight me at the baseball game who's no longer on the task force. So now we're a year after this all started from the office culture investigation. And he comes in and they send him. down in Internal Affairs out in Long Island. They come up and they ask them, you know, do you know why you're here? And he says no. And they're like, well, does there anything you would like to tell

us? And he goes, yeah, I would. He goes, Bobby Lediger is a racist. He covers up crime. He's the biggest problem in the task force. This is a year later now. This never came out during the office culture investigation. I wasn't even mentioned. Is this guy black or her? Oh, no, he's Greek. He's Greek. Okay. From Long Island, white guy. Right.

And we all hung out. Like, we were all worked together, went out to the bars together. Well, that's the worst thing you can say. That's it. He's racist. Racist. So then him and his co-worker partner, who was on the task force, kind of agreed. And then he interviewed him.

Yeah, he's a racist. He says to N-word all the time. And everybody knows about it. And we're only coming forth now because of how much damage Bobby Lederger caused to the task force by having him removed. I'm like, okay. So this goes on. So now they try to create scenes or scenarios or incidents where I said specifically the N-word. And one was during an arrest.

And they said that, and one of the other guys who were one of the bad actors in this, tased the perp when we were arrested them and it was a white guy and in the pat they had stolen a car we got into a car chase it was an arrest in Long Island in the gas station

and they were like yeah Bobby Lettaker went up to the white girl and there was a black guy passenger in the car and there was supposedly a white girl in the back seat and said that's what you get for dating a black guy

the end guy but so odd is that the white girl on scene was dawned, the marshal, who was in my car during this. But internal affairs didn't want to hear that, but they were using that scenario, that incident. Right. But what's more strange is that one of the guys, the marshals, tased the perp, who was getting arrested. So if you would have pulled that taser incident report, you would know the full investigation of that, what it was. So you could see all the players there, but they didn't.

Right. So then he came out and they were like, yeah, we hear that he says the N word at parties. You know, we're out at bars with him and it makes us feel uncomfortable now. And we have to tell you this now because it's so bad. Because it took us a year to come up with this. Longer. Yeah. Yeah, it's going on for years.

But yeah. But then they started shooting themselves in the foot because then the supervisor goes, yeah, I think he does say the N word. Well, you're a supervisor. Why didn't you report me instantly? when you heard that. Right. So you're a dereliction of duty. These other guys are not supervised

because they're investigators. So they'll play that. So they investigate me and they're like, you're a racist. Then they said one of my sources of information, an informant, was married to my wife. And that's why he's my informant.

What? Yeah. One of your informants was married to your wife? This is what the bad actor said about me. that I was associated with a felon and he and I owned a gym together and that same guy is my informant and prior to that he had been married

when you said married no this was a story they made up that he was married to my wife so your current wife he so your current wife was his ex-wife correct okay yeah all lie totally right and you would think that would be easily easily discounted you know oh no no they were questioned me

about that everything and they were like you let your informant live at your house he was married to your wife they're having sex i'm like this internal affairs these are my own people asking me these questions so what are you trying to get at so it's all lies right and um you can easily find it the best that they said i owned a gym with him i don't go to the gym right you know and like look it up do these reports there's no financial gains here nothing lies that people were making about me other cops were lying about me but we're not going to go after you know after them. Right.

And... Well, that's really the culture now, isn't it? You could basically lie blatantly lie and accuse people and then when you find out that that's untrue, nothing happens to a person that lies. Nothing at all. And now, what if a famous quote we would say to people when we were investigating to a fugitive and you're fine and like, oh, we're going to charge you with harboring a fugitive, aiding and abetting and lying to law enforcement.

If you lie to me, I'm a federal agent. You go to jail for five years. Right. these task force officers who were deputized that are lying to internal affairs so about another government official nothing ever happens to I mean these people should have been arrested in charge but no and internal affairs would just turn around and be like well we're just we're going to investigate the accusation that's brought forth but it's a lie right and we've told you that so this goes on and I completely deny everything and there's no evidence

to show I'd do to anything, but some people from the Marshal Service, the Internal Affairs investigates it, and then they push it forward, and they write up their report, and they cherry-picked the words. Right. And it's all selective and opinionated. And then we have what's called a proposing official. This person turns around and says, I don't believe Bobby Lediger.

I believe these four to five other people that you are a racist, and you use the N-word, hundreds to thousands of times a day even though the only people saying you do it are these four guys that I have four bad actors that are originally named in the complaint of sexual harassment and even though you're you have outstanding evaluations you have awards and you you know you work with a most

diversified group of people and there's no complaints at all about you nothing ever brought up you don't have any complaints from any people you're arrested anybody in the public nothing we believe them you're a liar and we're going to fire you and so this was in 2017 I was proposed removal I had to hire a lawyer because we have no union and we have some silly association the federal law enforcement enforcement officers Association. It's a joke. And I have a private attorney. Of course, you're a lot of money. Right. And I go before this deciding official now. We have like two months to prepare. I collected hundreds of letters of support. My background was perfect. And I go before this woman

who's a chief and plead my case to her and present evidence of, those people being racist and sexist and degrading and lying about me. But what's so strange is that before I get to do that and sit down with her, the day before she oddly gets a phone call from a civilian who wants to report to her that I steal cell phones from people I arrest and I gave her one and that I'm a bad person. Okay. It's very confusing, right? So this woman was the ex-girlfriend of one of the guys I worked with in the task force

who was friends with these bad actors in the task force, wrote a motorcycle with them. Well, somebody, one of those men, gave her their name. and phone number to the deciding official, which is all secret. This is all private. Which should tell you something's wrong, right? Right off the bat. And then that I stole a cell phone and gave it to her. So you're in possession of stolen property. Right. Does she have a cell phone? Does she provide the cell phone? Well, this is even better. That deciding official tells us, and my lawyer is like, you have to start in it, you have to report that to internal affairs. Right. So now I have a new internal affairs investigation on me while I'm getting

proposed to be fired. Right. And now we move forward towards our hearing, talk to her for a few hours, and the woman is just blown away. Like, she can see it. She's like, this is pure retaliation. This is horrible. So are you allowed to present witnesses? Are you just? No, it's just me and her with my lawyer. Gone couldn't show up and say this is what's going on. No, but Dawn wrote a letter in support of me. That's the best you can do is that we have letters of support to refute that. And she read everyone. She listened to me. And she just asked for some additional supporting documents that my lawyers provided. But keep in mind, I'm being proposed to be fired. Right. Which is a big deal for a federal agent. I lost my gun, my badge, everything, but I still had my title and I have to go

to work every day in administrative roles while I'm being like waiting. Yeah. So, So this is in 2017 and now we leave and it was on Good Friday and she, when we left, the lady was like, have a happy Easter. I knew I was going to win. Yeah. And that she was like a week later and she found, she cleared me of everything. It was unsubstantiated. But keep in mind, I don't get my attorney fee money back.

Right. I don't get any personal money. I spent nothing. You don't get nothing back. You know, it's just stress on you. And now I have an open internal affairs investigation for supposedly given this woman a cell phone. So now I have IA looking at me again after I just got cleared. Cleared.

So that goes now. That's April 2017. Are you starting, I'm sorry. I hate to interrupt. No, please. Are you starting to feel like this isn't going to work? Like they already know this might not work, but we're going to keep throwing stuff. until we get rid of this guy like at this point it's like okay so at this point these guys are

just going to continue to hound me until they get rid of me well is that way are you feeling like that like i mean look they've already lied this investigation you know what throw another one at him throw another one at him throw another one like it something will stick eventually if it got to that point a year or so later and um and i'm not a lawyer i'm not a scholar and maybe i'm too stupid to realize what was going on and i'm very shocked like how could you do this to me no and that I have my chief and my marshal and everybody supporting me, even other people from the task force are like, this is crazy what's happening. And I'm still in my position of power of being a supervisor to Warren Squad. And keep in mind, well, all this is going on. I have some of the biggest

cases of the world I'm working. I'm part of the investigation, arrest, extradition, and trial of El Chapo. Okay. So my name is right there on the paper as being a supervisor on this investigation with other marshals I worked with with the DEA out in Long Island huge and it's happening in Brooklyn as I'm being investigated this is going on so I'm under investigation it lingers for two years not until April 2019 do I get a notice from internal affairs that they want to talk to me it's like you got to be kidding me this is this has been going on forever right so thinking nothing's going to happen that they would have just dismissed it. As that's happening, I also arrest a U.S. Marshal's top 15.

It's like an equivalent to a FBI top 10. Right. This guy, Andre Nevesant, wanted in Brooklyn, on the Marshall's top 15 for a decade. It was on America's Most Wanted with that John Walsh. Yeah, yeah. And he murdered his sister and his girl. girlfriend. So many people worked that case. They stepped all over it. It was a disaster. I come in and we get a teletype that his FBI number is hitting in Connecticut. But what does

that mean? That he was fingerprinted and it comes back to his match, his fingerprints matched this FBI number, but the name and the date of birth aren't the same. So Bridgeford, Connecticut, let them go. They let them go. They don't follow up. So we come in to work the next day and I got to teletype and I'm reading over it. And I asked one of my analysts to call up there to find out. And we go back and forth, we're like, can you share a picture with us? So we're like, holy shit, this is the perp. This is the guy. So now I have to make a couple phone calls. People like, no, there's no way. He's in Trinidad. He's dead. He's that. It's his fingerprints. It's him. It's solid. So now we're trying to do some

due diligence because of the different A.K.A.A.s and that. So now my, it's not hard to get a DM. It's not. It's not. So it wound up being like a traffic violation. And so the Bridgeport, PD, we start working well with them and they're giving us information, sharing photos, information on the car. And I go in and my chief now is working with a couple of other supervisors. And they're planning the trial security of El Chapo. So I walk in and I'm like, hey, we're going to arrest a top 15 and he just laughed he's like yeah okay whatever meanwhile i just got done work in el chapel with the extradition and i'm under investigate criminal investigation right so within an hour i had set it all up with guys up in connecticut coordinated everything and they were sitting

outside his house and they're calling me and they're sending me video and photos of our guy sitting on his porch but the march was like hey we're waiting for some backup you know this guy's a major player you know we kill two people right sister and a girlfriend so yeah and you know he knows he's gonna go to jail for the rest of his life yeah he's he may very well you did yeah but he's got away with it so many times he's been on the run but he's I'm like he's wanted out of Brooklyn and he's in Bridgeport this so um within an hour they call me up send me a photo like we arrested him and I got a deputy marshal up there he's like thank you you just made my career I arrested a top 15 I'm like yeah no problem not looking for any yeah anything I

did my job. So I go in and I tell my chief and he's like, I can't believe this. That year, our district, East and New York as District of the Year, for being one of the largest districts in the age, eighth largest district in the nation for the work we did with El Chapo and the arrest of this top 15. Right. Because of me. Right. But no crap. I'm like, yeah, and whatever, you did your job. And I'm under criminal investigation. So now I go after that, the same guy from the marshal's headquarters who made the decision to investigate me, to investigate themselves,

the task force, this guy comes to Brooklyn a day or two after we arrest the top 15 because he wants to walk through the courthouse to see what's going to go on with the El Chapo trial. So he's an executive.

He's like the number two guy of the Marshal Service. So he comes in, sees me, he gives me the typical handshake and the street hug, right you know like he's proud of me and all that but never congratulates or thanks me for doing a job well done because he's stabbing me right in the back as everything's going on so there i have my opportunity to call him out this is the number two guy at a martial service right so i'm not a coward

you know i'll do whatever you want we can talk we can debate we can fist fight we can all right so this guy is just a regular deputy just like me he came up through the ranks you know it's just that he took all the test and he transferred from where he was. Now, backpedal, he was from New Hampshire. And the person who investigated the office culture case was from New Hampshire. Okay. So they all know each other. But this guy, the number two guy, he's now running the marshal service. Totally forgot where he came from. Right. So I'm like, you know, you're a real, you really suck, man. I go, you know what they're doing to me and you're letting this happened. He's like, we're just going with what internal affairs is investigating,

you know, whatever it comes, whatever accusations are made, we have to investigate. But you initiated the investigation. You created this and now it just snowballed out of control and because you want to protect your congressionally funded task force because if Congress hears about this or the public hears about this, you're going to look like a real piece of garbage because you let sexual harassment take place right here and you didn't defend or protect one of your own you went against your own to say that we were wrong and look what we did when our own were wrong we got rid of them when the other people the outsiders were wrong but you didn't want to have that political battle with outside law enforcement right it's silly but it's true it happens so now I just do this

big arrest, I'm under IA, now I get noticed that they want to talk to me. So finally, now I have to go to headquarters with my own private attorney. Again. Again. Right. So now I go there and I'm summoned to be there for two days, two days of investigative against me. And it's stemmed and it's a whole list of things. And it's just because of a phone call from a woman that's how it started. That's how it started. That's how it started. And that was, in the middle of the interviews in the very beginning they asked me if I was a racist

if I used the N-word so my lawyer's enjoying this like that was already investigated and closed what are you doing? You're harassing them you're retaliating so we put it on the record it was there

then they said they asked me about the man who started all this so we're like this has already been asked and answered it's already done

what are we doing here so then they went in and said one of the deputies that worked for me years ago got pulled over in New Jersey for speeding and he got a ticket. I'm like, okay. They're like, we have a text chain of you two talking and you tell them like, all right, well, just go take care of it. Right. Did you, you called the New Jersey State Police and fixed the ticket? I'm like, that's what you get, no, they say. So they said, I misuse my power to get a ticket fix, which I did. didn't and that deputy admitted it saying I didn't do anything but still they use my just throw enough

at you but that was one thing that was abuse of power then they went in and said um I stole a cell phone that they have a photo of it but they don't have the cell phone then that lady said I gave she had a shotgun and I gave her shotgun bullets but they don't have any of that and now she has a criminal history she had she'd been arrested before so she had She shouldn't be in possession of a gun. She said, I stole a camcorder and gave it to her. But they had a pitcher to camp quarter that had the serial numbers on there. But they didn't run it.

We don't know what that is. Right. We don't know if that was stolen. Well, it gets even better. I was going to say, first of all, she's admitting that she's a felon in possession of a firearm. That's three-year mandatory minimum. In New York. In New York.

I was going to say, federally, that's... But that's New York. It's the worst state in the world to get charged with a gun crime. crime. You know, you're going in. But they don't. They don't care. Yeah. Because it's against me, Bobby Lettinger. Right. Then she just adds more to it and it gets better. I'm a drug dealer. I'm a drug addict. I sell drugs. I steal drugs from the evidence locker. I steal money from the evidence locker. I sell Social Security numbers to her for fake ID. So me and her collusion with social security numbers to people. I filed for bankruptcy, which destroys your

security clearance, if I ever did that. I am a bouncer at a bar. I'm 5'6, 160 pounds. Right. I'm bouncer at a bar. I don't fight, you know. I cheat on my wife. My wife cheats on me. I misuse my government vehicle. I... You dislike, you don't like children or small animals. Nothing, all that stuff. But yet I would hang out with this woman with her then boyfriend when we were working all together. We went out to dinners, restaurants, bars, but all of a sudden this. But can't provide any evidence on any of this stuff. So the Marshal Service takes it and runs with it. And they're going more and more and more and asking me all these questions. They never give me a drug test. They never do an inventory of the evidence

lockers. They don't want anything that doesn't support their version of the events. But why not? Why wouldn't you want to know the truth? Why wouldn't you want be like, wow, this guy is getting screwed here? And he's another marshal. We're going to investigate one of our own. That's what it really comes down. And we're going to destroy him. Right. He's well known. He's got over 20 years in the Marshal Service. He's a supervisor. He's in the Warren squad. I've been involved in four shootings. I've got a great reputation. The men and women I work with love working with me or for me, I don't have any complaints against me. Why wouldn't you want me to be cleared? Why wouldn't you want to find a truth? So as I'm sitting there

with internal affairs. I'm hoping you know that. Do you know the answer to that? No, I'm still looking for it, man. I'm trying to think of one. Well, I think it's funny as I have people ask me and they're like, who is Bobby Lettinger? Like, who am I? That you came at me so hard that you spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to investigate me. I mean, it got so bad.

We lived in Long Island, New York. I had a beautiful house. I had a mother and daughter house on a half an acre of land. Nice, big pool in the backyard. I would have parties at my house every year for all the guys and girls I worked with friends, family. And I had to work in Brooklyn,

and I was a good hour or so from home. And my wife was home alone. My mother-in-law lived next door. And the neighbors would tell my wife and my mother-in-law that there's undercover cops sitting on the block. And then we were getting screws, putting our tires. They were coming on our property and putting stuff in our cars. We were getting pulled over.

All of this started because you told a couple of fraternity guys stop bullying this chick. 100%. And it's a fact. That's why it started. It's a fact it all came out because those same men who were bullying her and hit her and harassed her, they omit it in their own statements that I violated the blue wall. I went against them. I believed her over them. And they admit it. And the internal affair saw it and in my own people, my own leadership, read it and saw it. And they knew people were coming after me. So now these people put my family in life jeopardy. They put my wife in fear. So while this is all going on, my wife's like, I want

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with another family member, and then we wound up buying a house in Florida while we're still working. So my wife's like, that's it. She talks to her boss. He finds out what's going on. People are like, this is insane. This can't be happening. And it's like the movie Copeland.

You know, it's the Vestas Sloan where all the dirty cops are live in one neighborhood. So we're like, no, it's happening, you know. And even my own chief just couldn't believe it. And they were like, what are you doing? Like, I'm like, how do you protect? How do I protect my wife? Right. What do I do?

You hear all these people, you know, and I, not to diminish anybody or anything, but how many times you hear people, men, you know, you mess with my family, I'll kill you. Right. Really? Really? You're going to do that? You're not going to do it. Everybody talks a big game.

I had to do something. And the only way to protect my wife was to leave the state, and that's what we did. And I stayed in New York, and I would take leave and go back and forth to visit with her in Florida. She worked from home now in Florida with her company out of New York, which was great. They helped us out a lot. And now this is in 2019. I was going to say that I think the problem is that you wouldn't like it's not a far leap because for you to do that because given the situation like you wouldn't think it would have gone as far as it has already gone. So the idea that it wouldn't go a step further, it would be stupid to think, oh, no, they won't, they won't do

anything to my wife. They won't mess with my family. They won't do. No, no, they've already continually pushed that bar. There doesn't seem to be a limit. So I can, so to say, hey, look, let's just, let's just sell. Let's get out of this. Let's, let's, I mean, I can totally see that. Because I was thinking, wow, that's, that's like, you know, you really, that's a huge step. But at this point, they don't seem to be stopping. So I don't see what other choice you have. Nobody seems to be looking out for you. No one is looking out for me. Granted, I had the support of my own district.

The people backed me and, like, you were a good guy, but that goes so far. Yeah. You know, I need presence. I need protection. I need money. You know, what do you do? Right. So that was the best thing we could did.

We didn't want to do it. You know, we changed our whole lives. And the agency, the Marshal Service, knew I was doing that. I told them in internal affairs that I had to leave because you people did nothing for me. you knew they were coming after me. They told you they were coming after me. And you did nothing. Right.

And they still, to this day, you never helped me. Nothing. They have, they tell you when you're in internal affairs, you're sitting there like, well, you can call EAP, you know, the employee assistant program, you know, to vent to some lady in India that I'm feeling depressed or something. Right. Come on. So, and I'm still working.

So now we'll back up a little bit again. and then, I'm still in internal affairs being interviewed. So they're asking me about being a drug dealer, stealing money. They're asking me then if I'm a bouncer. They're asking me if I fix tickets. Now they want to see my cell phone. The government cell phone, here you go. They take it, they bring it in the back.

It's gone for a couple hours. So they're downloading it. They come back and they had a folder. And they open up their folder. They give me back my cell phone, government cell phone. and they're showing me pictures of a naked playboy model.

I'm like, okay. They're like, do you know who this is? Like, yeah, I know her very well. And she was a fugitive that we arrested. Right. So I'm like, okay. So internal affairs is blown away.

They're like, she's a fugitive? I'm like, yeah. I go, it was all over the news. It's a big thing. I go, it was a Hague act. She kidnapped her daughter from the husband who was, in France. She was from Vietnam. And they issued a warrant for her. We arrested her the next day

trying to flee the country with the daughter and brought her in. I said, we photographed everything that she had. She was an international playboy model, a DJ. And I'm like, I took pictures of the Playboy book for identity and evidence. Here's all her clothes. Here's all her jewelry. Here's a five cell phones, a laptop, here's everything, everything we have. Here's all the emails from the U.S. attorney saying thank you for all that information. So it's a case file. It's a case file, 100%. 100%.

And it's all there. The emails are there. No, you should have deleted those pictures. I'm like, no, you can't. It was on a work phone. It's legit. It's evidence. I said it's saved in the cloud.

You can't get rid of that anymore because you people and the government created this. cloud to keep it. And plus, everybody knows about it. No, we think you kept those photos for self-gratification. That's a crime, you know, in the Marshal Service. Okay. Yeah, it's self-gratification. So the lady who say that to me, I just assumed that she was jealous because she did not look like the Playboy model. So that was a personal hit toward me. I'm like, I'm married. I've been married for 25 years. My wife is absolutely gorgeous. And this is the year of the internet. Right. I don't need to take pictures of a Playboy book

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So now we move forward into 2020. and I'm still lingering under internal affairs. I've been interviewed by some people under the Trump administration for an appointment. Right. So just can't believe it. And at this point, my wife is totally disgusted with the government to no end. So...

What a waste of money so far? It's just... It's a shame. And let's, I, I, what is it, proudly can say that the American taxpayers got their money out of me. Right. I worked my ass off every day. So now we're in 2020. This is the year I'm eligible to retire to have 25 years in the Marshal Service.

I came on June 95. I can retire June 2020. So I think it was in February, February, March, I put in to retire, that I want to retire at the end of June 2020 because all the, I just went out. Yeah. Well, while I put in to be to request that I can retire in June 2020, I am now hit with another proposed removal from everything in internal affairs did to me. and of course it's abuse of power, failure to supervise, lack of candor, misuse of my government

vehicle, my phone, anything you can throw on there. So I have my lawyer again, we have to write up a rebuttal, I collect more letters than the first case, all my awards again, being part of the arrest with El Chapo and Nevesen, great things. So we go now to headquarters to speak with the deciding official. And this lady actually knows me, personally knows me. She was my class advisor. We even had e-mail to exchange that she knew what was going on at the task force in Long Island of how I was protecting Dawn and that it was all messed up.

Right. But she forgot that. So we sit down and talk to her. She only talks to me for about 15 minutes. So we knew she made up her mom. mind. She was going to get me, fire me. And I sat there and I begged. I go, listen, I'm just going to retire. I want to retire June. I can retire in June. It'll have 25 years, you know, leave me alone. So like I said, it's the end of February 2020. You know what just kicked

off? February 2020, worldwide pandemic. Oh, yeah. We're shut down, man. That's it. The government is shut down. Everybody in headquarters is teleworking. They're at home. I think that would help you out. We all thought it would help me out. I'm like, I can't win this fight anymore. So April 17th, 2020 is Friday. I get an email from Human Resources, Marshal Service, headquarters, that I am awarded retirement June 30th, 2020. I can retire in June 30 at 2020.

Perfect. I'm in Florida. I'm using up my annual leave and sick leave because I only have a few months left. I have more time in my hand to use up than on a job. Yes. So that was April 17, 2020 of Friday.

Monday, April 20th, 2020, 4 o'clock. My chief calls me. You're fired. They terminated you. Holy shit. Just like that, snap of the finger. And I just sat there and I was just, I couldn't believe it.

And then I could believe it. And I'm like, all right, this is a joke, you know. Worldwide pandemic, we're shut down. So I read what they write. And this lady who knew me, she's like, the Marshal Service leadership doesn't have the confidence in you to perform at a satisfactory level. I respond back. I, too, don't have the confidence.

to respond at a satisfactory level, but I've always performed at an outstanding level for the last 20 years, and you all signed off on it, which in my record. You don't even know what my evaluations are. Right. I'm above what you want me to be. And the best one was that the naked pictures

of the Playboy model, I find that you did keep these pictures for self-gratification. How can you even prove? You can never prove that. printed them they weren't on the there was nothing to get like it was insane but this is what they come up with so we then file an appeal with what's called the merit system protection board it's a joke it's a kangaroo court that's created by the government it's supposed to be more for the employee

but it's totally turned tides and it's more for the government and what happens is a guy like me doesn't fight them. You don't go up against the government. You don't have the money to do it. You have to pay for lawyers. I now am fighting them, and I'm very fortunate. I have the National Police Defense Foundation backing me over the Marshal Service, and they created a legal defense fund to help pay my legal fees. Nice. My case is sitting, and it's going to take a while. It takes years because it goes before a quorum, a three panel quorum. And they were all appointed by the president. So Biden just last year appointed three of them. One already resigned. So now there's only two. It's like you just can't. Right. So that's that comes 2020. And what do you do? I got no job. I lost

everything right i lost my salary i lost my pension i lost my medical benefits everything everything's gone and um so for about a week you know i sat in a corner crying depressed feeling shame and embarrassment and my wife was like what do we that's it let's go you know and um i did some great things man i i had to go i went on unemployment at a new york and um I did that for several months. And then she's like, we got to get a job. You got to get something. But it's the pandemic.

I'm screwed. What are you doing? Yeah, what job? What I put in for Home Depot? I couldn't even get that. And next you know, down where I am, I put in and I became a supervisor at a pre-planned retirement center. And it was pretty, it's well off place, but it was horrible, you know, getting 20%

$25 an hour, you know, but I had to do somebody. They gave me benefits, you know, so I had to have it. But I was really lucky too because I'm a veteran and the VA here in Florida was great, you know, so I had medical protection there. My wife had medical protection from her company. They were helping. Then I started searching around a little bit more and I wound up finding a good job through LinkedIn, which pushing my story out there.

Right. And I now currently work as a security consultant for a nonprofit organization, international. I do a lot of traveling. It's great. The organization supports the hell out of me for what I did, and they can't believe it. But also what happened during all this time is I connected with some great people on LinkedIn. LinkedIn was great for me. for me. I didn't do Facebook or any of the other social media. And I met this one guy

who's an FBI agent, lawyer, who got jammed up. They went after him. And he's fighting them as well. He put me in touch with another FBI agent who resigned before they could fire him. And he waited a few years until he reached a certain age. And he went back and got a government job. So I connected with that guy and he was telling me about it. And I'm like, I can't do that. He's like, you have over 20 years as federal law enforcement. Right. And he goes, you're over the age of 50 now. Because you have seven years in the Navy. I was terminated with 24 years and 10 months. Right.

Yeah. If that's not personal retaliation, you can't. And everybody knew it. So this guy educated me and gave me the policies and the programs to follow. And I like saying I used the government against the government. Right. And I got my retirement. Okay.

So I beat them at their own game. and I got my full 32 years retirement law enforcement everything I have my my medical benefits and they give you a social security supplement till the age of 57 I mean what did you do go get another job and work for two months yeah I don't want to go into great people okay okay I understand that's fine it's fine because I'm writing a book and it's going to be in the book but you know what yes yes but you don't know what I did but how long I did it but it's amazing and it's what you do to protect your family and yourself and you know you can't let them get to you and that's like the whole thing of my story is do you know don't give up don't never give up don't don't give

in don't don't let the bad actors take you down you know and that's what I try to put out there even when they come at you with things you know and the lies that people say about you and the false accusations and it just it sucked but you know you fight through it and now you can you know I can look at these people right in the eye and know that they're you know they're garbage you know and I'm not impressed by them you know the government lawyers are not anything they're still government lawyers if you were that good you'd be in a private sector right right I used to always say that like you don't get to the top of your field and end up working for the Bureau of Prison

like you know like the dot from the doctors all the way down like that's just not how it works no so um yeah it's it's uh I was gonna say there's a guy I interviewed who runs a YouTube channel I should put you in touch with him

he'd probably be interested in your story too because he um he actually you know Wade remember the guy that that it was a self self defense but it was stand your ground where he was attacked

in his own home by a guy and shot him, you know, but he was attacked. The guy was drunk. They'd both been drinking it. The guy was drunk. He attacked him multiple times. He told other people he was going to kill him. And then he attacked him and Wade shot him. And they arrested Wade. He got out. He's like, I was in my own house. You know, and this guy attacked me over and over again. You can see that I've been hit. You can see that like the whole thing. And it was really just one detective that had, she was brand new detective. First case she worked, decided she wanted to to get him and they fought it um he pulled a hundred thousand dollars out of his retirement to fight the case and it took like two years and the only reason it didn't go forward they didn't go forward

with it is because a new district attorney came in and his lawyer went in and said i want to sit out with you just show you the evidence and he said and he told wade look it's a risk because we're laying out our whole case and he laid out the whole case and showed it to him and the I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm dropping this. Okay, but yet, you know, it's, you know, they, the other, you know, they pad the file. They, they hire somebody to come up with, to come up with a forensic report that supports their version. They, and I've done a lot of, I don't know if you know, you know, much about me, but I've, I've written a bunch of stories, right? And I have, uh, of true crime stories.

And, you know, I have a guy who, like, literally they, the FBI, continually investigated this one person and asked, they patted the file with all of these people that said, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it. So by the time it's done, you've got 30 people, 28 of which said he did it, you know, but out of almost all of those, they can't really tell you who told them that.

And it all really stems from one guy telling this guy, who tells this guy who tells this guy, and so this guy talks to the FBI and says, Yeah, this is what I've heard. But it all really comes from one guy. Of course. You know, and then when you're completely done, it's like, it does look overwhelming. And if you were to go to trial, it would seem overwhelming because all these people would get on the stand and say, yeah, this is what he did.

You know, but really, if you look at it, it's like, okay, well, you padded the file. Like, you only investigated people that supported your version. You're a narrative. Yeah, your narrative. So why didn't you? Matter of fact, they actually gave people. people lie detector tests

until they came up with their version and then when they came up with their version they stopped giving it they just took the thing okay did you did you give them a lie detector test on that version

well no because we knew we knew that was the version that we wanted to go with so why would we give them a lie detector test well that you know it's me you bring that up about the lie detector test

and you look at like something like the Marshal Service and you wonder like what makes it what's happening today with law enforcement and I'm sorry I jump around a little bit but the Marshal Service does not do polygraphs they don't lie detector new employees or even their staff why not right why wouldn't you raise the standards to have the best people out there instead you lower the standards you're doing away with some of the fit requirements the education right

why when you want the best people your your weapons qualls and it's amazing and it all come down to like the way the culture is today, you know, current events and it's a shame. I mean, I was watching something a few days ago on ESPN and they were showing a story of Whitney Houston singing the National Anthem in 1991. Right. What happened? What happened today that now everybody's a racist, you know, and that's the thing to call out there.

Well, you're white, you're a racist. Everybody's white supremacy. Really? and what happened because she came out beautiful woman she's wearing sweats she wasn't dolled up in a in a gown or anything and she sang the national anthem the best anybody's ever heard it and when I went through what I went through and to see that they pulled the race card against me to come at me they just come out left field because you never saw that coming never saw it coming the best that they said to me they were like I was such a racist

And I didn't have any, you know, I don't even know the proper language to use anymore because you don't know what to say, but they're like, you don't have black people at your house. Like, we had dozens to picture. I'm like, I have to prove that I had black people at my house. My own family members are married to someone of color or anything. Right. And I have to prove this. And I had a guy who worked with big guy.

And we're the same age, same exact age. and black guy from Queens and we're great friends and he lives in California now retired he wrote one of the best letters for me ever and he goes off on the letter saying you know I'm proud of the Marshal Service for investigating racism and doing what you're doing but you got the wrong guy

why don't you ask me and I'll tell you who the racists are but this is how you're going to do it? Yeah they don't want to hear that No, they don't. And it's a shame that you want to hear the truth. And then just the girl Dawn, I defended, she's defending me today. Is she still in the marshals? No, she retired.

And what's odd is that during her last year or two, they were going after her and making accusations. The same bad actors that she complained about made complaints about her, that she took her dog to work. she misused her government car like all the petty-ass things and the same lady that decided to fire me

made a decision to suspend Dawn so then she filed an EEO and they settled with her because they knew the deciding official was showing favoritism toward the TOS force so Dawn settled her EEO they gave her back all her lost days

they promoted her and they gave her money but you still came after me right when the the original thing was I defended dawn you know for what it was and it was all pure retaliation but they pile it on it's just like you said they pad the folder they pad the case and they put so much in there and they weren't even complaints against you like you're investing you're finding stuff to investigate. Well, I understand, like the racism thing, like they have your phone, right? Like, there's text messages, there's, like, if I was so blatant and I'm saying this hundreds of times a day, then I certainly would have said it in a text. I certainly would have thrown it into an email. I certainly would have like nothing, right? No. Nothing at all. But here, well, here's

the conversation you and I just had now for the last hour or so. It's the most you're going to speak almost in a week. It's as long as we spoke. And it's been hundreds of thousands of words we said maybe right not once did we say the N-word right but I say it all day long yeah and I you know I can hold I hold my head up you know like this you got me you know and and my dad says it and I get what he's saying and it's a shame that he he thinks like that there he goes even when you win you lose because all the money I've lost over the years are going through this and somebody just called me the other day looking for help and he's like well how much did the did your lawyers cost I'm like more

than your salary yeah but don't you can't ask those questions you know every everybody has a different amount but if that's what you're worried about to fight to yeah yeah to prove your yourself don't call me because you're gonna spend a lot of money to fix this well you know like I told you about that guy Wade he spent over a hundred thousand what if he didn't have it you don't you don't you don't you don't You don't have it. Nobody has it. That's your life investments or whatever.

What's I going to do, remortgage in my house to pay for my attorneys? Right. That's why the government got you. You can't. It's impossible. You can't go take out a loan. Yeah, especially not. If you were to go to the bank and say, oh, I need it for my legal fees.

They'd be like, you're going through something. We're not interested in being a part of. Well, especially during a pandemic. Oh, yeah. There's no jobs out there to get a job to pay anything back. Right. So that's where they think that you can, they can win. And they do, and they intimidate you, and you're afraid of them.

Of what? You know, when you sit down and you start talking to these people, it's not impressive. You know, they're lawyer. Like we said, they're government lawyers. Listen, there's some U.S. attorneys out there that are unbelievable, and they're very comfortable just staying in the position that they're in because they have a family and it's a nine to five job. Right.

You know, but you go to the private sector, you're putting in 20 hours a day, you know, to make 18 million a year. so you're going to you're going to work hard yeah so you're waiting you're you're waiting for this you're waiting for your um it's not a trial it's it's an appeal it's an appeal you're waiting for the appeal to go through yeah and what i'm waiting for that is that my appeal is to get my marshal's retirement right and to get my um back pay for the two plus years i've lost and to get attorney fees and then that's it okay in the meantime I'm I work I'm I'm I'm currently writing a book right um putting it all out there you know and um I'm living

in Florida man you know all right um do you have anything else no no you have anything else no You got anything? One thing that I would think would be interesting if you can't talk about it, like the old chapo stuff or like catching the guy on like the top 15 lists in the marshals, like the story about that. It could be like a 10-minute version, five-minute version, whatever. I can go into that too. And there's another thing, too, more to add to my case, which makes it insane too, is that

in August 2014, we were involved in a shooting, arrest of a shooting of a guy named Oswald Lewis in Queens. And it was a drug case out of Virginia and tracked the phone. And it was like 11 o'clock at night, a house chopped up into apartments. We knock on the front door to the owner of the house. It's like, no, he lives in the back. So we're there. And in about eight marshals there and about eight, 10 NYPD guys there. We surround the house. We knock on the door. Nothing. and you hit a TV, we take the door. This guy goes into the back of the makeshift apartment and barricades himself into his bedroom.

And so we start making entry. And me and this one other woman I worked with, we didn't even get into the door yet. We were on the frame of the door. And the perp puts his hand out and starts shooting at us. And now there's six marshals in this little place. like and you know they start returning fire and you can feel you know it's hard to say but you can feel the bullets going past your head you can feel it you know to the fear and the stress

and anxiety and um so some of the marshals wound up when he put his hand out they shot his hand and shot the gun and then the perp went and grabbed another gun and started shooting out the window where the NYPD cops were outside. So during the, you know, he finally comes out, he surrenders, we arrest him. That's going to be bad. I was going to say, like, you know, after shooting to the cops, I think I'd rather just go ahead because you're about to spend the rest of your life in prison. No, this gets better.

This gets better. So we get them, we put them, we are, we have EMS stare and everything on scene within seconds. And it's New York, you know, everybody's coming. So we take them to the hospital. And now he's getting charged with, you know, attempted murder, federal agents and everything. Well, of course, in the courts, you know, it starts getting dwindled down. They're like, yeah, assault, you know, use of a firearm. We're like, it's felony for Z.

Like, what do you do? So he defends himself in trial. So while he's, but before the trial, NYPD talks with him. Now he's going to start talking. They hit him with a homicide in New York. He's got a drug case out of Virginia and then he's got the shooting at us. Right.

So right now he's in jail for 40-something years. Right, okay. So while he's in there, during now I'm under Internal Affairs investigations, he's making all these accusations out of it. It was police brutality. You didn't even get in the room before he started shooting. No, but we were handcuffed and we were beating them up,

calling him the N-word. Right. Everything. There's hundreds of people there watching this, including EMS, neighbors. Other body cams. everything. Right. So this goes on and the actual, the actual, one of the actual marshals who shot him is not a white guy. Right. I'll leave it like that. He's not a white

guy. He shot him. The perfect. They, they remove him from the complaint. And then they remove the Spanish female from the complaint. Then they remove one or two other people from the complaint. So it's down to you. It's down to five people on a complaint that are white on the complaint. While I'm being investigated by internal affairs, it's all coming down. So now the U.S. Attorney's Office is representing us because it was in the line of duty that we did this. It was a case. So now the U.S. Attorney's Office has to rehabilitate my reputation because I was fired by the Marshal Service, which works for the Department of Justice, just like the U.S. Attorney's Office works for the Department of Justice. Right.

So they're like, how do we do this? Meanwhile, the U.S. Attorney's office, we know you're a great guy. So this is all going. I'm like, yeah, let's look what I did because they've already known. It's like they pull up and they're like, well, he's part of the whole investigation, extradition, trial of El Chapo in eastern New York, where we had the biggest criminal in our lifetime now. And it's like, we don't know what to do. And then I put on there, too, about the top 15 fugitive, Andre Neverson.

You know, it was one of the most high-profiled cases for the Marshal Service for years. It was, you know, on America's Most Wanted, several times. And they've interviewed several marshals that were working that case. Right. And then here it is I, Bobby Lediger, working with an analyst who worked with me. we tracked down and locate this guy and evidence and all these great people from the task force that worked on that case

didn't arrest them, it was us. So, you know, that all went on, but now to go backwards to add to it, that person, the perp, Oswald Lewis, who made the complaint against me and other marshals of police brutality and racism that was finally dismissed. But it was going to go forward in Eastern New York as a trial against us,

that he was suing us while he's in jail. And it's like, you can't make this stuff up, what was going on. And this is all in my life. This is my life for almost five years of complete hell. And people are like, how did you? And only a couple people said, I would have killed myself to go through what you're going through. And you're like, no, I'm not going to kill myself.

You know, it's almost like, it's like a badge of honor, you know, when I'm accused of all these things from people and I almost try to simulate it to those people who made all these accusations against me are like stolen valor. Right. You know, they've done nothing, you know, and they have to come take me down to get something. and you know these people that I worked with that did all these bad things you know

they they wear the t-shirt of the job I did right you know and I give my dad my t-shirts because he's proud of me and not them so okay anything good but that or yeah that's good yeah there's a lot of good points we good yeah all right i'll wrap it well one i appreciate you you coming out making the drive how far what was it um it's like an hour and a half it was almost i think it was like 99 miles but you don't think of it because i'm just down south you know in sarasota so i'm like oh tamper's an hour yeah so no and it's it's all it's it's i 75 like but this is better anyway doing it i i like you it's a better relationship yeah talking like that you know and i'm all open i mean i'll uh

These are great. This is great for me, you know, for me and for you, you know, even if you had Q&A and talk about other thing. And look, I'm even open. I'm close by. If you got talks you want to do to bounce things off as like, as from a cop point to your point, be like, what do you think? You know, I'll debate with your own things or whatever, man. You know. I was just thinking it's funny, this. No, never mind. I was going to say this might be the, the, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, The public information officer for Okeechobee Sheriff's Department, because I'm actually supposed to interview the sheriff of Okachobee County, sheriff's office on a story I'm writing. So I was going to say they were going to call me today. I'm never getting phone calls during the day. So when it was ringing, I was like, that's probably the public because he's calling me to schedule it. Yeah.

But it's funny, too, how things turn out. Like I do talks in front of law enforcement. eye you know well I get that now too is I have some stuff on LinkedIn like these people call me and they're like hey will you talk this like people and I'm blown away by it and maybe because maybe I'm cold-hearted right in a way but I'm like I'm not going to kill myself you know I'm like I didn't go to drugs I didn't go to to alcohol or medication and I didn't go to religion I'm not you know I am who I am and that's it I say maybe I say things I shouldn't say them but I what I say and I own it, you know, and...

Well, you said people call you from... People call me and they asked me to talk to other people who are in a tough spot. Right. And it seems like a lot of veterans and it's really heartbreaking to hear it and for what they go through. And I feel, you feel horrible because you see the way it is today with law enforcement. And I can't believe in America is how much we discredit the military guys and girls. Right. And like military people, especially if they were in special programs like military police

or any kind of rescue squad in the military, like special forces or anything, they should be given the top of the list to join the police departments back here or the fire departments. You know, we should not be recruit, just going to, you know, to Harvard to get somebody to be a cop. These guys and girls earned it and they should be given a job right away. Right. And they don't. And then you come back to America. when they're overseas, and these military guys and girls have the toughest time in the world to get their gun permits, to carry a gun in the country that they defended. Right.

And why? And everybody wants to put these tags on them. Well, they got PTSD. Really? You know, try to stand a post for eight or ten hours, you know, protecting other people. Right. Just that in itself, protecting the front gate of an overseas base is glorious. to what happens here in America.

Yeah. And it's depressing. And it's to go backwards again to talk about Whitney Houston singing the National Anthem in 1991. Like, what happened? Why did our politicians do this to us? I don't know. Listen, I went into prison.

13 years later, I came out, and it's just such a vastly different world. Like, imagine being removed for 13 years. When iPhones came out, there were no iPhones. Right. So I go to prison. I come out. everybody's walking around staring at their phone nobody talks to each other nobody wants to work

kids don't want to work like i couldn't wait to work kids don't want to get their driver's licenses they don't want to it's like it's it's insanity and people don't know how to talk to each other they don't know you know there's so many you know the the things that people argue argue over are you know initially when i hear the arguments i kind of scoffed it off and kind of laughed about it you know and and now they're so passionate about things that seem so irrelevant and it's like are you serious like like do you guys know that china's probably going to invade Taiwan right you know that there's that Russia's invading you know it has invaded um um what do I want to say Chechnya Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine like you know there's like other things that are going on there are bigger problems

you know you're you know we're in trouble we're in trouble as a country our military has been dismantled oh man it's it's dismantled and you need to spend so much money on things like that and again and where's the pride and want like i went in the navy when i was 17 i loved it i had i loved it and let's revisit some some other things like if you want to change the uh the criminal justice system let's invite criminals join in the military instead of going to jail at certain things let's let's revisit that let's let's make things happen out there instead of focusing only on you know listen to the sports figures tell us how to live our lives right or entertainers you know it's silly it's very silly you know i mean there's yeah it's the stomach stuff things but i didn't

look at them. I mean, like, you're going to explain the whole thing anyway. And I have a brief understanding of what happened. But, um, honestly, I've been absolutely booked, um, the last few days. Okay. So, on the last week or so. Um, but I mean, my basic understanding of the, of, um, I don't know, it's not like, I really typically just, I typically do like true crimes. I don't know if you looked at the channel or anything. I searched around a little bit and you know my whole thing is trying to get my story out there and trying to get to bigger platforms, you know, like reaching up to you got to you and telling it because it's just insane like what people say.

Right. But I get what you're saying and I looked you up a little bit too to see your background. And being my background, it's an odd thing too is I arrested a Ponzi schemer years and years years ago and his name was from New York, Long Island, but his family, his parents lived in Spring Hill, Florida. Okay. And I had to send the marshals there, but we're not me, I, with the U.S. Attorney's Office and to revoke the bond and seize the parents' house.

Oh, man. It's a scumbag move. Right. Well, I mean... But he's a scum, you know... Yeah, yeah. But I mean, it's, you know, the problem is that, like, if you're the, if you're the, um, victim, silent mode, no, on, if you're the victim of that, then, you know, obviously

you're trying to claw back as much money as possible. So if he bought his parents' house with the money, well, I mean, look, I'm sorry, your son's a scumbag. But we're trying to get this retiree as much money back that he stole this money from a retiree or something. Well, he did good. He was good for a while. He scored like $250, $300 million, you know, and whatever he was doing. But it was him and his girlfriend. kind of wife and um you know to go you don't let people on bail man you can't you can't do it if you're gonna he's on trial in Brooklyn and then he um he fled up to yeah do you leave the country yeah he went to we went up to Canada oh and um but we hit his cell phone and hit him he was hanging

out he he he turned his phone on and uh in a subway deli store you know like a fast food place right and uh boom we had his phone and then montreal police went in there and just snagged them up there and then you know it takes extradition is a pain in the ass and it took us a few months to go up there and get him and uh came back but what was really sad about the whole story is that his father was a loyal father and then his father died after they seized this out like he just he destroyed his own family so his last few six months or a year or a year it's your house is being your son thrown in jail you're yeah yeah i understand i've been that disappointment so um but that was like the most intense criminal investigation case i ever did

otherwise i just worked warrants and worked the street up in new york and uh part of the task force and then just went off the you know street savages right you know savages completely i've been in shooting fights, everything, you know. But you know, you can tell that, you know, clean, clean business crime. Yeah. Well, it always, it always killed me when, you know, like, you talk to these guys, these white collar guys that were the marshals show up and they pull their guns and they scream and holler and they're just like, what the fuck is going on?

Like, whoa, like I filled out some paperwork. Like, I don't have a weapon. Like, I get it if you've got a history of violence and stuff. You know, it's the whole overwhelming force or, what he's funny. There's a guy, Rashi, I forget his name. And it was in New York. And like, he was a Wall Street guy. It was like half a billion dollars, something outrageous.

And for him, they came and they like knocked on the door and they were like, listen, you got to come with us. You know, they were real nice. And he was upset because, like, they parked in front of my building. I was like, parked in front of your building. Like, you still laugh at them. or you were accused that Marshall doesn't know whether it's valid or not you know they don't know like I was giving it to what I got to get this guy they said he's a bad guy he's got to come to yeah so yeah he was he was upset because like oh they had they had their lights on they embarrassed me I'm like they didn't pull their gun your guns they didn't kick in your door they didn't grab you when you were you know what I'm saying like he he he was complaining that he had been treated unfairly and it was probably the most fair arrest that I'd ever seen you know like when they what who came from me show secret service they didn't even call the marshals for me there's secret service just staked out the house for like three days and then they pulled

up and jumped out well a lot of these agencies they don't want to turn over the cases to the marshals because if they work it's so long they want to have you know the success of making the arrest but unfortunately some of them can't and that's where they call it turn it over to the marshals like we have a great we have a great work in relationship with like DEA and ATF you know but But they're out in the street every day. They're building cases all day long. And they actually don't have the time to do surveillance and go get the perp. Right.

You know, they have so much other stuff to do. Yeah. And I was just say in my case, like they knew exactly. They were giving an address. Yeah, you were there. I was there. Like, they're going to watch it. They actually watch.

I actually had, was staying in a hotel with, we'd had a robbery. And so, you know, we weren't staying there anymore. And we were staying in a hotel. But in the local sheriff's department or police department just. They knew we'd had a robbery. So they called and said, hey, can you meet us there so we can get the surveillance tapes? And I said, sure, no problem. And I pulled up because they'd watched it for three days.

They were like, this guy, where's this guy? He's not here. And so I showed up and they pulled up. But it was funny too because they, the secret service, the FBI wasn't, the FBI had an indictment out of Florida. Secret Service had one out of Georgia. And like, they weren't cooperating. Yeah. And so, you know, with each other, and so I don't know if they didn't want to call the marshals.

I'm not sure when they finally grabbed me. I know that it was so funny. I had called the FBI agent when I was on the run at one point just to see if I could turn myself in. Like, maybe I could get to deal or something. And I was talking to her. And at one point, I said, okay, she was going to call you as attorney and see what he could work out. And she said, I said, well, okay. And she says, well, here, just, you know, give me your phone number, which I'm sure she already had, you know, like I called on a cell phone.

She said, give me your phone and I'll call you back. And I went, eh, I said, you're probably tracking this call. I said, I'm going to shut the phone. I'll call you back. She says, oh, get over yourself. She's not that important. And I was like, yeah, like, who do I think I am? You know, and I was like, you stop watching TV.

Yeah. And I was thinking, no, you know what? I'm going to, I just feel like, no, I'm going to. So I said, no, you know what? I'll call you back in an hour. She was, okay. I hung up the phone. turned it off later when i got to prison i ordered my freedom of information

act and i found out that she immediately called the marshals the marshals called like verizon verizon said that phone number was just issued to a phone that was purchased at it was like a 7-11 that was connected to like a um a subway uh sub sandwich place and i was sitting in the subway this whole time i waited the whole time and they immediately issued two marshals to drive to that location and I just happened to leave before they got there. How long ago was your case? That would have been 2000. That would have been that specific thing happened in 2005.

Yeah, those days are over. That's not happening anymore. And the government does it to themselves. They just screwed themselves with reporting so much to the courts and everything because now you can't do that. Now you have to have a full-blown search warrant to go after a phone. Really? Oh, my God.

Oh, it's funny too. Back in a day where you could do a lot more and that you had actions and circumstances to pull up, you know, to work with. It's funny how you mentioned Verizon and different companies that we had a good work in relationship with. But now, because of politics get involved and, you know, the way the current events are is, you can't do that anymore. And it's funny because, you know, it hurt law enforcement with TV and the media and even

things like this, these conversations. It's like they use it to sell and, you know, watch law and order and you hear all the language. That's law enforcement language. So they have law enforcement representatives there who are retired and giving them the good street lingo, you know. And now you see the movies, you know, it's all there. So you can't do that anymore. You have to, you know, make a report. The agent would have to go to the U.S. attorney.

They have to draw up a complaint issue for a search warrant. By that point, the guy is going on long gone. Go on. And now the big cup of it. They put two guys in the car immediately, and they still miss me. But, but I mean, who knows, if I had stuck around five more minutes, they might have grabbed me. Of course. And it's funny, too, because I didn't know I was writing my memoir when I had ordered all this documents, right?

So I kept saying it was a track phone, track phone. I forget what I was referring to. And when I actually got the documents in, I actually saw, like, they had the phone number. They had like it was, whoever was like Virgin or Verizon, whoever. it was I was like oh wow like it was so you can only go back so far now because you're not allowed to look at so much information and it's the same thing like trying to do your IP address on your your computer the computer that is what they won't they won't you have to have to have a warrant you have to have a search warrant to get any of that stuff now it's hard it's real hard