Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Exposing The Racist Media, Cops, and Royal Family

Episode Date: July 7, 2023

Exposing The Racist Media, Cops, and Royal Family

I'm black, Matt's, Matt's white. Are you, I, oh, my God. You're not around a lot of black people. You don't quite understand the queen of England. Oh, the queen Elizabeth. I immediately thought of the group queen. Is this the real life? I know, right?

Is this just fend? Oh, you're only asking him to get out of car because he's black. I can't believe you're doing it. You wouldn't be doing this to him if he was black. You maybe had some Hispanic in her. or like I didn't think I never She probably did at one point I never

When I went to prison Was probably the first time I'd ever really been Realized that there were these real Deep lines that were drawn In society Because in prison They're not pretending

About like it's clear You're black You sit over there I'm white you sit here Hey, this is Matt Cox, and I am here with Zach. Yes. And we are going to be discussing the, what? The Gilbert.

It was going to be the Gilbert thing, but I don't know how long we could possibly talk about that. Because it's just a long time. Because it's going to lead to other conversations. Okay. Well, so we're going to talk about it, which, and which we'll see how long that goes. So, oh, oh, wait, this is the other thing I was going to say, uh, Zach's channel. See, you didn't remind me. I did. Look at you. See, Zach's channel is up and running. He's got multiple videos on there. It's called, this is so appropriate. Black Zach, which is a rarity, which he chose

the name. Yeah. I tried to go with like, what was I trying to go with the, um, Zachalicious. Zachalicious or Zachanator, which was hilarious, right? The Zachanator. Kind of like the terminate, but he said, he was like, no, no. Well, it sounds like a kitchen appliance. That's I thought it was doing. Anyway, so go to, if you, matter of fact, I'm pretty sure it should come up if you just punch in Black Zach or we'll also leave the link in the description box. And there's videos there. He's almost monetized. It's been, it hasn't, it's been a little over two weeks since you put up the first video. He's almost monetized. He's already got over 1,000 subscribers. He's got 3,000 watch hours. So if you just go there and watch some of the videos, some of the videos are duplicate videos we put up from a couple years ago, still hilarious, trying to get it monetized within. 30 days. Please do me a favor and go there and check out the channel. And I don't see, I don't feel like that sounds like begging. Anyway, okay. So, yeah, so do me a favor and check out this episode. Is my, does my shirt pop with the red and the red wall? I even got red lights. Wow. We have a conversation on race and he remembers.

moves the white people. I had to take the white. Please notice that he has removed the white. Not what happened. But anyway, all right. So what, so there was talking about Scott Adams, who is the creator of a comic script, comic strip, a script. I can't even talk. I'm, a comic strip called Dilbert. Dilbert is the, the, the, the, the, D with the Dilbert. Yeah, D-I-L-B-R-T. You never seen it? Did I say Gilbert? I was saying G with a, Gilbert. No, Gilbert. Dilbert. You never read the Dilbert comic script? I've seen pictures of it. It's where a dog. It's an office comic script where they talk about memos.

Like, oh, I'm going to do a memo. I got to do a memo. It's about the office. He works with, there's a female. There's a dog. That's the boss. Okay. You never read it? I'm sure I've seen it, but I don't read the comics. I don't. So, and here's a question I wanted to ask. I was thinking about

this. So, Dilbert as a comic strip is one that so, let me ask you this. Think about what you're trying to say Formulate the sentence How often do you read comic strips out of the newspaper? Me? Never.

Never. Have you ever read them before? Yeah, I have. Like when I was a kid and they actually had newspapers And my dad would have it And he would laugh about stuff. Like they used to have the comics used to be pages. It would be a couple pages of the comics.

Which one actually made you laugh out loud? Can you remember any? Because I read them I read them as an adult. Whenever I get a paper, I'll still read the comic strips. I mean, I used to think that... Because I have an addiction to the peanuts.

The far side used to make me laugh. Hagar, the horrible. Hagar the horrible. And Garfield. Oh, yeah. Garfield was definitely a laugh out louder. Yeah. So, but, you know, that was it.

All right. For me, it was Dunesbury. That, Dunesbury made me laugh out loud. Boondocks. Have you read Boondocks? No. I probably read it, but I don't know. I don't remember.

Oh, my, made me laugh out loud, especially when they were making fun of Brokeback Mountain, where, oh, my, I was, I was side splitting on broke back. But they just did, what was it, oh, God, oh, I can't believe I can't remember. You know, Harry, whatever, the Prince, Prince Harry and Megan Markle, who was it that just mocked them? They just did a whole. It's a, it's not a comic. It's a, it's a cartoon.

The cartoon, oh, I don't know. Bro, it was huge. Like, they just mock the hell out of them. I can't believe I can't remember this. People, no, not the Simpsons. It's, uh, Simpsons. Simpsons cartoon made me, that, that is my favorite cartoon. In fact, on my podcast one day, I'm, I want to gather some Simpson fans and just talk about

the Simpsons, especially I want people to tell me the funniest, like some of the funniest moments like the moment on the Simpsons that made them laugh the hardest i'm going to do that i'm going to start putting together some simpson fans and we're going to sit in here and talk about the Simpsons i love the Simpsons all 31 years of them although i probably haven't seen the last 15 not much of the last 15 i had made it a point to watch him but i haven't gotten around to it south park you know south park just did a huge thing on them just mock the hell of them. And they were basically mocking them for their whole stance on. We just want to be left alone. And that's what we're going to talk about on our grand world tour. Yes. Like,

we want the media to stop bothering us. And we're going to go on every single show. We're going to write a memoir. We're going to do a Netflix series. We're going on every single show talking about how horrible it is. Right. Just leave us alone. But it's, so it's, so it's, so we can tell you about that. And of course, they're upset about it. Yeah. I'm upset that you're getting, that I'm getting, to me, that I'm getting attention that I'm begging for to try and try and make some money off of because she's going to bleed this guy dry. He doesn't really have any money.

You think she's bleeding him? I think what, I don't think they're in love? I think he's probably in love. What? I think what happened, in my opinion, there is that, you know, she saw him, she hooked, she hooked up with him. Listen, I saw, I saw. First of all, you know, it's a. funny is like I didn't know she was black like I would have never thought she was what would

you have thought she was I thought she maybe had some Hispanic in her or like I didn't think I never she probably did at one point I never like that's a that's a short like that that's a great so anyway um so yeah so I I I didn't know that till suddenly it became an issue right and then it's like, oh, well, the queen, the family, they're racist, and they're like, well, I mean, it's the queen. Like, you had to know this was coming, right? Like, I don't even know how racist as it is, is how just removed from society in general they are. Like, I don't think they're going out of their way to try and come up with policies that fight, that fight against, you know, blacks or anything. I just think that in general, it's like, hey, we're white,

the family's white. Our generation is white. There's generations and generations. And that's That's just, you know, like, I don't think they're going out of their way. They, and I think they had asked a question if they had children, how dark would the baby be? That was what she had said, the queen asked. And it's like, I doubt that the queen would have even thought that that was a, I don't think she would have said it as a racist comment, just as out of curiosity. Doesn't mean that it's negative, but she's super offended. And what's so funny is I saw a comedian, he said, he goes, I mean, honestly, like, she saw, this guy and let's say she fell in love with them like she had to know she was hitting the

Caucasian lottery like you couldn't get more white than this dude is you had to know that might be an issue going in right and you stuck through it like if there was such an issue for you then why didn't you move on to somebody else it's not like she's not couldn't find someone else she's hot yeah Megan markel yes hot actress a pain in the ass all right so we at some point should we start with Dilbert and then branch off into racism or do we just start with racism and didn't branch off into Dilbert. No, no, Delbert. You like Dilbert.

I do not like Dilbert. My whole point is that comic strip has never made me laugh. And a lot of times I wouldn't even read it because I never thought it was funny. I thought it was beyond my comprehension for funny. I never read it. And now I can't find it.

Because I was trying to remember if Dilbert had any black characters. Most comic strips have a black character. You throw one in there. Even Peanuts had, what was the black character's name? know it. It's going to come to me later on. Yeah, they, they, very intelligent. Yeah, they did. Yeah. Yeah. Very intelligent. Franklin. Franklin? The fact that I can't remember shit. How do you

remember anything? Because I read it. I had an addiction. 30 years ago? Listen, I have an addiction to peanut comics. I've read them. I've watched all the movies. I've been to the Mall of America where they have all their rides. I am, I am a peanut advocate. I loved Charles Shilts. I love peanuts. Listen, listen. This is the perfect time to say also, what's your favorite movie? That is not my favorite movie, Mac. You said it was! I simply told you, I watched it and floored you. Okay, so I watched. Favorite movie. I said, what was a good movie, Matt, was Zanadu. Because it had Olivia Newton

John in it. Colby needs to cut a clip from Zanadu into the thing. Colby, I swear I'm going to watch video. When he says Zanadoo, you need to cut the clip in there where it says, Zanadu, and sings the song from Olivia Newton, John. Zanadu. Zanadu. All clip in there. Because when I told Boziak that, his first concept, he said, you let him know his ghetto card has been revoked.

My ghetto card has been, been revoked. I thought, my God. All right, so look, now I forgot his name again, man. Scott Adams. Scott Adams. So Scott Adams, I know, it's horrible. Scott Adams, that's a pretty, that's a pretty, that's a pretty cracker name. Yes, yes, it is.

So Scott Adams went on a rant. Yeah. Right? Where he saw a poll. I'm sure everyone's seen the rant. And we're just here to kind of discuss like, not only the rant, but about race, because I'm, I'm black, Matt's white. Are you? I'm dead serious, people.

Dead serious. Is this change anything? Super uncomfortable. Super uncomfortable about this. We've been friends for decades. Yeah. I was going to say. And it's never, it's weird because it's never even, well, we make some jokes.

Some jokes. Normally it's Matt calling me white. so I don't know like geez Zach but there there is a line like I didn't send you the black face Zoolander today there was I said what do you call them

what did they call the GIFs GIFs I don't even know what does I stand for anyway the little GIF that you can send people where it's like you know it's GIF or GIF oh is it GIF GIF okay so I was sending I was at the gym and and I was sending Zoolander ones I was like oh my God

I'm like he's like I'm like, I'm at the gym, and I showed a picture of Zoolander, like walking all, like, like a tough guy. And, and we were going back and forth. I kept sitting different Zoolander ones. And then one came up, and it was Zoolander where the character in Blackface. And I went to hit and I thought, that might be too. That might be a line. That might be a line.

Especially with the video we're about to do. It might be over there. And I said, Jess, can I? She said, yeah, no. Yeah, probably not. Probably not. Damn. Seems like you'd be okay with it.

But you might want to be, you might want to take a chance. Listen, I am, I have, all right, so are we going to talk about Scott Adams or what? I'm sorry,

go ahead. So what was your opinion of the fact that he, first of all, he said he identifies as black. He identified at one point as black. I thought he was kind of joking about that part. Do you think he really came out and said that? No,

I think he was lying. I think he was just, I think he was like, I'm going to go to this extreme. to make this point. I'm going to make it seem like I'm absolutely like I'm, I related so well with black people that I actually at one point identified as black. I don't think he identified as black. I think that's, I don't, I don't see him. I think I thought it was him being just extremely sarcastic, overly sarcastic. Like, I don't think he was serious. I think he was being

overly sarcastic about just kind of mocking the whole I identify type of thing. Because from what I heard and like I said I don't watch his stuff or anything but I was watched about four different like news stations where the news anchors were were discussing it and they were saying that he kind of does Twitter and does he has kind of like a conservative platform where he talks about certain issues that are more conservative issues but whether or not they are now saying like that's the problem with them news you just don't know like now they might be te be they might switch to, oh, he's always a conservative. He's always been a conservative.

But the truth is, he may have never even thought that before. But that's what they basically said. And I don't know. But they were like, yeah, he kind of does conservative talks and stuff like that. So I thought he was mocking the whole I identify thing. Oh, I used to identify black. So I'm not going to do that now. I thought it was mocking.

But maybe it's true. Maybe it's something he. Well, I mean mocking or being sarcastic. I don't believe he ever identified as black. No, I don't think he ever showed up somewhere and going. hey, what, I'm black. Oh. Yeah, I don't.

I doubt. I thought that was just, him just being overly stupid. Yes. Yes. So, and, and to make that comment is, is a little condescending, especially when he comes to say, well, I'm no longer going to do that because I think 50% of black people are, are racist. I also saw that it, that it wasn't 50%. It was like less than that.

Well, no, the, the, all right, so the poll he saw where it said, 23% of the population thought, I'm sorry, they did a poll. Rasmussen did a poll where they asked people what they thought about the phrase, it's okay to be white. Right. Right.

And like there was a determination that that phrase was racist where... I don't understand. Like, you're telling me that you can say black lives matter, but if I say it's okay to be white, that's racist. That so you know what makes that determination exactly so and I have a story about that because I always thought it was so people would say black lives matter someone to go all lives matter and they're like oh no you're taking away because we're trying to say that black people

are getting killed by the police I'm like well you're taking away from all lives matter when all people you know are don't want to be killed by the police we're not the only people who die at the hands of the police right you know but you're trying to make an exception I agree that that as being black, I have a completely different experience with the police than probably most average white people do. I agree that that's true, but like

I don't think that we're the only people to get killed by the police. I've seen a white person get killed by the police. No, as far as percentages are concerned, it's not even true. No, it probably isn't. It's just an inaccurate, you know, that there are more white people

that are being killed by the police than there are blacks. But it gets way more attention and it's a talking point that the media seems to be pushing yes well the the problem is so it that might be a push but the problem is we but we do have a different experience with the police right but then again did you see the one did you see the thing what was the guy oh god what was his name too this is so bad i don't know anybody's name what was the guy that was uh that choked to death um the cops put handcuffs on him George Floyd oh yeah I That was wondering if you were talking about it.

No, no, George Ford. On his knee. Right. So did you ever see that? Yes. So the whole video. Yes. Okay.

So I never watched the whole video. And somebody had said, hey, you should do a video about this. And I watched little bits and pieces of it, right? Like little clips. And I was like, I was like, okay, so, you know, they grabbed him. He, you know, it was an accident. He ended up, it was an, he accidentally choked to death. He this.

And then at some point, I, you know, he was, he accidentally choked to death. I said, you know what, let me look. Before I do this, before I do a little, even mention it, let me go ahead and watch the whole video. Damn. You watch that whole video and I'm sitting there like, I mean, I'm getting chills. Like I'm like, why isn't he letting him up? There are people yelling from the fucking, from the street that are like, like the one woman who was an EMT, she's like, I'm an EMT. Let me help him. He's choking. And he's like, you back up. You're going to be arrested. And he's telling her to back up. Back up. It's like, I'm an EMT. He's in direct. there's no reason for you to, he's in handcuffs. Yes. Get off of you.

Do you think that he's going to jump up and run? You know, and I get it like, look, you're a drug addict and I don't believe that maybe you are choking, but I don't need to have my knee on you anymore. Right. At least sit up, put him in the car, get off of him. Like, and I wouldn't, you know, I would probably lean towards the side of the police if I hadn't watch that whole video. And then I was just like, Jesus, bro, like, this is bad. Like, you were so overboard. And you sat there and you watched the video. And if you watched the whole

video, you realize, you just watch this guy, choke this guy to death. Yeah. And handcuffs. Like, you weren't in danger. Like, it's so over the top overboard. And I want to lean toward law enforcement and say, hey, he was scared. He didn't know. He this. He that. But that's not what's happening. And you didn't de-escalate the situation either. There's a crowd around. Like, he, one of the things they say is like, there was a crowd around us. There's a crowd around you because you're choking a man to death that's in handcuffs. And like, exactly. The fact that I would make that argument bothers me because like I said, I want to be on the side of law. I want to say, hey, there's law and order. Most of these guys are good guys. And I think most of them are.

But it's like, bro, you watch that and it's like, it just completely changed my whole opinion on that whole thing. And if you want, but if I watch it. But if I watch. a lot of this, some of the news feeds were kind of shuff, you know, a lot, some of them were how horrible it was, but some of them were making it seem like it's not that big of a deal. It was an accident. It was, you know, at manslaughter at best, it was this, it was that. He didn't know. He didn't realize he was on drugs.

He didn't, he didn't take him seriously. He didn't this. Oh, they say it's a combination of both. Right. But you watched the video. Like I, to me, I changed my mind. I was just like, wow, bro, like you got to go to jail. You got to go to prison.

I'm sorry. Like, I, I know it's going to be bad for a cop in prison. But, yeah, but also, Matt, you well, is you more than anyone know that the police, FBI, they all lie on the stand. And so they get to make the report and they're always going to make it out to their best interests. Right. But, I mean, say, okay, but at heart, like, I still want to, I still want to believe in law and order. Does that make sense? Yes.

Like, I don't, like, you remember Jason? Weeks? Yes. He used to say, he goes, well, you know what the problem is, it's the 97% of law enforcement that make the three good percent look bad. And I remember the first time he said it, I went. Jason Weeks. Now, you can't get any more Caucasian than Jason Week.

And sarcastic. And sarcastic. Entitlement. Yes. Well, they, law enforcement shattered. his, I bet you, prior to his demise, he probably had the same, like he would defend law enforcement, like you're lying. Oh yeah, not now.

Yeah. And they completely shattered. And that's, that's kind of the reason why that there's that line for race. It used to be easy. Like, we can treat this group bad and this group good. You know, and the same thing for jurors, they want all. Everyone law enforcement always wants an all white jury right because they feel like any black juror probably has someone that they know that's been mistreated by law enforcement it's not it's not a spoken word. It's just what's in the head. It's just like whenever we I have a conversation about like police and the way they treat blacks and they'll say well maybe you like I'll say you know police arrest a lot of blacks and they go that's because black people commit the crimes you know. not saying there's no truth in that statement

because black people do commit crimes but white people also commit crimes but in your philosophy the reason why the police don't trust the black or they target the blacks is because they try to say statistically that's who's committing the crimes you know and and they've already

proven that statistically it's almost balanced we're only 13% of the population so if there's only 13 of us and out of 100 right and they're saying look it's the black people to commit the crime Well, obviously, out of 70% or 50%, 60%, some of those white people are also committing crimes.

Am I right or wrong? But we're just not going to target them. We're going to say a greater percentage of the blacks are committing the crimes. So it's like, I'm not saying prejudice. It's all a matter of perception. It's, to me, it's kind of ground in to a portion of our lives in some way.

Because I will say that my mom had a serious issue. with white people she did not like them no yes that's not true not from the stories i've heard no she did not like them at all and growing up i wouldn't say she i wouldn't say she idolized them she just like you know we we are black i don't trust them you know and it's from i guess the time that she grew up in and she's probably seen things because you got to imagine the people who stood on the One of them was a 19-year-old girl. Like, if you're a 19-year-old and you watch what happened to George Floyd happen... Are you going to have some issues?

Would you ever trust the cops? Yeah, from here on out. No, you guys kill people. What the hell are you talking about? Cold-blooded. Like, I would never trust you. Right. And that's what happens, like, in some neighborhood.

And that mistrust goes... So it's, God, I'm probably all over the place talking. But... Generational. Generational. Spans generations. Because as you mistreat black people, other black people see or know, then we have the mistrust of the police. It just, it doesn't stop.

It grows. It becomes an infection that starts to spread. I'm trying to think of the term I had for that. And that's what, yeah, and that's what, that's what happens. So racism sometimes, they go back to Scott Adams, it's, it's, it's. Like you said about the queen, I think he's just removed. Like he doesn't live around a lot of blacks. He probably didn't have a lot of black friends.

Yeah, well, that was funny. I was going to say that he had said he's like that because he started saying that because most blacks say that they, that he said, first of all, he said it's a hate group. You know, which is black people is a hate group. Right. So, well, what's funny is he. Now, white people are definitely not a hate group. He took less than 50 percent. And then applied the 50%, which may not have even really understood the question, and then applied it to the entire group and said, you know, that all blacks, that the blacks are a hate group. And I don't want anything to do with him. He said, and what I've done is I've gone ahead and I've moved away from blacks so that I live in an area that has a lower percentage of blacks. What was funny about that was that that survey had just come out a few days earlier.

Right. So did you immediately go out, get a real estate agent, find a house, close on a house? And I mean, like, that, how did that happen? Like, that was the quickest move in history that you'd already relocated to an area where there were virtually no blacks. Right. Like, I think that's why when he was talking, I felt like he was being, he was being extremely, he was just being sarcasm. Half of what he was saying was just sarcasm. Right. You know? Not that I'm saying it wasn't racist. I'm just, I'm just. saying in general, it was sarcastic. Like, you can't, obviously, he didn't go out and meet. He already lived where he was living. Right. So, sorry. Sorry. Work, sorry.

But, um, yes, you're right. So he was being sarcastic. Like, I'm, I'm going to move away from black people. And he said he already had. He said he already had. Oh, yes. And then he also said, he said, and I got that from, Don, Don Lemon. Don Lemon, right.

Saying that he would prefer to live, well, you know, Don Lemon is, is living with a, uh, his, significant other is white a white male so and and like that's just wrong on so many what's so funny is what's what is acceptable now when I was growing up oh yeah totally unacceptable oh yeah like in first of all interracial relationships already and then and then openly gay like keep in mind I was growing when I grew up Ellen I was actually in like I think was I in college or after college when Ellen, remember Ellen, Ellen DeGeneres kissed a woman on TV on TV and got canceled. Bro, people went nuts. That it was

huge. It was such a big deal. And it was like, now, I mean, now when you watch TV commercials, like, they don't even put white people in TV commercials anymore. It's nothing, no, no, no. So it's, so here is straight white people. They don't, well, I'm in an interracial relationship. So here, here is What's his name? Matt. But that's why he's wearing the red shirt. It's his time of the mind.

But anyway, here's what's funny. Don't laugh at that. Here's what's funny. I tell my girl all the time, I said, the interracial relationships is massive in television and even commercials, right? Yeah. So I saw a commercial that blew my mind. I'm God, I want to think of the product.

Anyway, there was an old couple, an old, at least 70-year-old man and about a 70-year-old woman in bed together. God, what was the name of that commercial? I'm going to think of it. I'm going to think of it because I want you to add it in where somebody's talking to them and they're like, what are you doing in our bed? Right? And it's a black, old black man and old white woman. I'm like, oh, they've gone too far. They've gone too far.

I don't understand. What's the implication? So implication is interracial couples, yes, you'd expect in the 30s, 20s, young 40s and 50s, but a 70 and 8, 70 year old man and woman in bed together in a commercial to be black and white. I'm talking my color black and your color white. Okay, okay. In bed together. Right. Like in bed together at 70, you would think, okay, married a while, you know.

Well, they got them pills. Listen, there's a, you know, you know, and the, you know, the villages? Yes. Villages have the highest percentage, in the villages have the highest percentage of STDs in the United States. Are you serious? Those elders in the villages? Yeah, they're driving their golf carts around. They're boom, they're hitting it.

And they're banging. Yeah, because think about it. You got some, an old woman, her husband's dead. If you're a man and you've got, if you're a single man, well, maybe a married man, or even a woman, like, they're single. They got nothing to do. They got these pills. you know what I mean like what do they you know they're it's insane

and then of course it's also from a generation that they're not wearing condoms they're not worried about like they're thinking ah we're fine it's the highest percentage of SDDs in the United States the villages oh my God good time you didn't know that I'm look it up I'm moving my black butt up there

now especially after that commercial did you imagine when I see that commercial I'm sending it to you because it is hilarious you know what's funny about your glasses sometimes you wear them cock-eyed. And you do it on purpose. No, I don't.

They're too small. No, but they're... I'm not saying they're too small. You wear them sideways. Like, they'll be side. And I'm like, and I'll see you put them on and you adjust. I've seen you adjust them sideways. And I'm like, does he want to wear that?

Like, I don't want to... You got to help me out, man. You got to get some cool glasses or something. I got to get some cool glasses. I'm on camera looking like a moron. Anyway. All right. So, Dilbert.

Dilbert, like, you're right. We never even, we can't even stay on this topic. I'm sorry, go ahead. All right. So, first of all, he said black people move up, black people. He said white people move away from black people like he has. I was going to say, like, like they need any, need this guy to tell them that. Like, they're not going, like they're not making that a tip anyway.

Sorry. Well, remember what I told you? I said he should tell that to the people in jail or, or. Or the judges, like stop sending people to jail where the black people are. You know, like move them away. Get them as far away from us as we can. Oh, listen, I was, when I was in the medium, it was like 80% black. I'm walking through the crowd.

And I'm looking around like, there's no white people here. There's like 13 people out of 1,700 people. What about the low, though? What was the percentage at the low? 50? I remember I got there. I was like, I've never seen so many whites. Are you serious?

Tons of them. That are Hispanic. Really? Also, you want to hear something funny? I did research for a guy on an article recently for the, come on, Matt, the CARES Act. And we've put in a couple of Freedom of Information Acts on the BOP. This guy that I was working with knows 40, 50 people. Another guy that we talked to knows another 10 or 20.

I know 15 people. So you add all that up. It's like 75 people, not one of them's black that got out. So out of all these people they were getting out of prison, none of us knew one black person that had got it now. Can you imagine if the BOP? I'm trying to think if I, because I know. Like, what's the percentage?

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A couple of them just like wanted to. But anyway, I had a conversation with these black girls and they were asking, they were telling me that they couldn't be racist because they were black. right and I remember thinking to myself like when they first told me that I thought it was a joke I'm like what she goes you know how can we be racist we're black and then I realized they were serious like oh my god like I go you can't dislike oriental people she's like yeah but I can't be racist I'm black apparently school system here is just as bad as it is in Florida yeah I remember And there was nothing I could ask them to say that you could actually dislike or exclude or not include a race. You couldn't, you couldn't, you couldn't explain it to them.

No. That's not true. I could not. They, and it was two of them. And, you know, and I'm going, I don't understand. I'm like, I don't understand how you got to go, because I've told myself, I said, you know, I have family members that absolutely hate white people. And so, and I think that's how I was the contact. go, you know, some people don't hate,

you know, some black people don't like white people. Yeah, but we can't be racist. We're black. It's like, okay. So. Yeah, that's just stupid. Like, you watch the TikTok, do you ever get the TikToks that, listen, I don't know why I'll find them so just, and I'm just shocked by when there's a guy

and he, I think he's in New York in Times Square. He stops random people, typically young people. And I don't mean young, like, they're not 12 or anything, but they're like in their 20s. He stops them and he says, hey, I, you know, whatever he is. pitches. Basically, he just says, I ask you to just basic random questions. And, you know, and he'll say, you know, how many states are in the United States? And they're like, um, like, uh, uh, sometimes they're like 52 and sometimes they're like 13 or 12. So what continent are we on? They don't know. Who do we declare our independence from? They don't have a clue.

and I mean, and I mean stuff like, what state was Lake Michigan named after? You know, they don't know. And then he's like, take a guess. Take a guess. And they're like, they're like Kentucky? It's like, yes. He always says yes. Can you name, you know, can you name three countries outside the United States?

And they're like, uh, uh, Europe? And he's like, yes. You know, he, I mean, he just lets them just, he named three countries in North America. And they can't. They can't name one. They don't. They can't tell you how many continents are. They can't tell you how many. They can't tell you what ocean borders the east coast. They can't tell you. I mean, it goes on and on. They can't tell you what 20% of 100. How much? How much is 20% of $100? How many dollars would that be? Oh, they don't know. They don't know. And it's not like they're like, yeah, man, I don't know. They're like, they really think about it. They'll come up with a wrong. answer. They're like, they're like, $40. That's right. And he'll say that's right. He always says that's right when they're wrong. They're like, man, I knew that, man. It's just, it's so sad. All right. So when you tell me something like that, my mind immediately goes, yes, it does because I'm, I'm

wondering how many correct answers does he not record? He probably, he probably does. Oh, listen, every once in a while he'll, every once in while he throws one in there. And I mean, the questions get progressively harder and the person will just boom, boom, boom, boom, and you're like, like, this is nuts. Like, out of those six questions, like, I didn't know two of them. And it's, I mean, they're, but they're, you know, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, do progressively get harder. Of course, the other people never get even close to a hard question. But anyway, yeah. So, that's what's, that's what's up and coming. And what's sad is, we live in the information age where it's all at the touch of a button where we can we can like I

search stuff all the time oh I wonder what this is oh me too who's in this movie yeah oh you know jess and I constantly she'll ask a question she'll ask me a question I'll go I don't know and she'll go god I wonder this and I go why don't she look it up show you what do you think it's this and I'll go and I'll look at her cell phone because I've had this conversation where I'm like you have the most powerful device ever created in the palm of your hand why have we been talking about this for five minutes? And she's like, well, there's always the, the, like, anyway, like, I'll dream of what the answer could be. So what, do you remember the point you were making with that or is it gone?

No, I don't, I don't have a point. I very seldomly have a point. Oh. I love the sound of my voice. Ah, now I'm getting it. Look, now I'm getting it. So, hey, I have a, all right, yes. So I have, I have a question for you, have you ever been accused of being racist?

Absolutely. In or out of prison? Um, well, I mean, in the comment section, I've been accused, but, you know, I've been accused of everything. In the comment section. Let's, let's make it personal. Let's make it kind of like you're in a situation and they'll go. Specifically racist? No, misogynistic.

I've been. Well, that's. I was actually about, but I was, I was actually about to accuse you of that. But I was it. You were accused me injured. Oh yeah, I was accused of being an Andrew Tate fan. That always tears them, tears people apart. Oh, yeah, it does.

And it's not, what's so funny is that people, they cannot have, like, here's the thing. If you have one opinion that differs from my opinion, which I have no doubt you do, I don't immediately dismiss everything you have ever said and want nothing to do with you. And so to me it's like, we agree. on 80% and there's 20% of what we disagree on, that's okay. Like, I just not going to agree with everything. Even, for instance, even like, let's say, we talked about this like with communism, right? Or socialism, right? Like, like, I'm like, well, I disagree. I do not like socialism. I do not like communism, which is just an expansion of socialism. I don't like that. But then again, and you go,

yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right. But I wouldn't mind free health care. Like, you know, You know what I mean? Like there are some things it's like, well, wait a minute. What are you talking about? Yeah, like if there was like a national plan where we were all covered, like I'd be okay with that. They're like, that's horrible. That's socialism. That's, I know, but I like the idea of it.

So do you see what I'm saying? Like there's always some give room. But the problem is most people go over with. Same thing with the Andrew Tate thing. 80% of the things that he says, I agree with. However, I disagree with how he says him. Because believe it or not, you know, I do believe, and this is an ARDAP thing, where they used to constantly say, it doesn't matter if you're wrong and someone, or someone approaches you, like they used to always say, well, I don't like the way he approached me. I don't like the way he said.

It doesn't matter. The way he said it's irrelevant. But the truth is, if you have a message, you need to be able to articulate that message that is non-offensive. He articulates his message so that it is overly offensive, which is what gets him the clicks. And 80% of his message, I don't think, is any different than Jordan Peterson or Ben Shapiro or any of these other guys that I agree with their message. The one thing I fundamentally disagree with is, you know, basically the way some of the things he says about women and the fact that one of the things that Andrew Tate pushes is, you know, that you should, a man should be able to have sex with as many. women as he wants, be in as many relationships at the same time, and that his women shouldn't be in any relationships but with him. And he should be able to, you know, it's like, it's like, come

man, stop it. It's too much. It's overboard. Like that's never going to function. And society doesn't function like that. And it's be complete chaos. So stop. So I disagree with that. But the idea that, hey, pull yourself up by your bootstraps, suck it up, work hard, make money, make good choices, push yourself, stop blaming everybody else. Like, these are the things, you take responsibility for yourself. Like, I believe those things. The problem is, even when he says those things, he says them so badly that it makes people hate him.

And they don't realize that, listen, 80% of his message, if it was said by somebody else, you probably would agree. Right. And that's where I get these people that hate on me because I'm like, I agree. And then the other thing is, if everything he said you agreed with, people will disagree with and they hate on him because they're like he's a sex trafficker but you don't know that he's been arrested for something that he hasn't been found guilty of and i know guys that have been found guilty of crimes that they were they were indicted for

they were found guilty and they're and i've looked at the paperwork and they're innocent like there's i've seen people that have been locked up for 20 and 30 years that DNA came back and set them free and guess what? They didn't rape the person they were convicted of. They didn't kill this person. They weren't involved. They walk out the door. So even people that are found guilty, not the majority of them are guilty. But sometimes that happens. Sometimes people take a plea because they realize that the evidence is overwhelming and they take a plea that they disagree with and they go to prison for things that they didn't do. These things happen. So this guy's been accused of a crime and most of the social media has already said he's absolutely guilty,

he's going to prison. But when he's found not guilty and he walks out of prison, he'll be twice as obnoxious. I wonder if those people will then say, like they don't rush to your aid and say, you know what, we're wrong. Turns out these women were wrong, were lying. The government in Romania was overzealous. They were wrong. It was a money, grab and they grabbed his stuff. They thought they could convict him. They couldn't. He walked out of jail.

It turns out that some of these women were lying or their statements were taken out of context or for whatever reason he walks out. Like those same people that absolutely were against him, I don't see that there, any of them would turn around and say, wow, I messed up. I was wrong about that. They're not going to say that. And the problem and the fact that they don't look at themselves in the mirror and say, wow, you know what?

Like, I screwed up. Like, I disagree with this guy on some points, and I don't like the way he says it, and he's derogatory and rude, you know, but you know what? Like, like, he's not, he's not what I thought he was. He's not sex traffic. He's not doing these things. They're not going to do that. They're going to turn around.

They're going to come up with some other reason to justify their hatred for somebody that's probably, you know, not valid. So that's Anthony Robbins. describes that as the exception exception the exception exception yes so like what you're saying is people prejudge him or they dislike him based on 80% of what he says or on something he said that they don't like right and they don't care consider the other part well see that's that's kind of like um getting a job and you're a convicted felon yeah i turn my life around yeah probably You know, but in order for me to look past what you've done, I have to make an exception.

Because typically, like, if I wanted to be your roommate and I had a drug habit, right? You might. I have an issue with that. Yeah. So you might, like, make an exception, you know, but like, if I end up fucking up, you're like, man, I, I know this. You know, all these motherfuckers are. Yeah, I've already had that happen. Right.

Yeah. So where the person was sober. And then I, and then fell off the wagon. I said, yeah, you can't. I'm sorry. Right. So if I came to you and I said, well, Matt, let me live with you. But I, I had a drug problem, a couple of, like last year.

So you'd have to make an exception. I would still be okay. Like I would be, like, this is the problem is I wouldn't. I would be like, oh, okay, but you're okay now. Yes, I would wait. Like you would move in and if you messed up, well, then you've got to go. Right. Like, even though I've already had that experience, I would still be okay with that.

Like, I'd be like, okay, well, you know, hopefully you're okay and everything's fine. You'd move in. And then if three months from now you messed up, I'd be like, yeah, you got to go, bro. Like, I can't have you here, you know. So what if it was someone you didn't know? Yeah, I had a drug problem a year ago. I still think, you know, the problem is I know people that have been in recovery and I still. Well, I'm asking, would you, would you move them in?

I'd still be okay with it. Unfortunately, I'd still be okay with it. But, you know, you can't listen. What you say unfortunately? Why would that be unfortunate? Because you have the exception, exception. So you, you're like, okay. even though I'm not going to prejudge prejudice,

I'm not going to prejudge someone by their past or by what other people think they are or how they're labeled. Because I think when I say what I say, unfortunately, because I think it often bites me in the ass. Does that make sense? Yes. Like the truth is is, look, even when I had the issue with the person that had moved in

and had to move back out, even when I had that issue, if Jess wasn't, Here, I would have said, move back in. We're going to fix this. It's okay. But I feel that I have to make the right decisions for her. Like, I can't put you in a bad spot.

Right. You know, I wouldn't want to put you. I can, me, okay, I can risk that. But I'm not going to put you in a bad spot, you know? Like, I had already felt bad for even saying it was acceptable to begin with. This person moved in and then fell off the wagon. And then I was like, yeah, bro, it's, I'm sorry. Because the truth is, is now it's like, I thought you were good.

You're not. And I can't be in a position where this is something going on while I have, you know, my wife here. At that time, my girlfriend. Well, that's how people make a judgment on, on, so that's how people, that's, I'm trying to get it for the philosophy of the prejudice of not liking. What is it, Andrew Tate? Yes. Right? So if they judge you because you like him,

it's probably because they're thinking, okay, well, people who normally agree probably have those type of tendencies or gravitate toward people who express themselves that way. They have a, they already know, or they already think they perceive the problems that are going to come from someone in that category. Just like a convicted felon or are you a criminal? If you're a convicted felon, someone that's renting a place to, you might rent the place to a convicted felon. I'm like, that's the hell.

You know, so long as you pay your bills. And if you go to jail, I'll just keep your stuff. So it's funny. My ex-wife, she's like, she's like, I rent the felons all, convicted felons all the time. She's like, they'll come to say, look, I need to tell you something. Like, I'm a convicted felon. And she'll go, did you kill your landlord? And the guys, they'll be like, no, I sold drugs like seven years ago, went to jail for two years, got out about seven

years ago. And she's like, oh, we're good. She's like, it's not violent, right? It's not murder, right? And she's like, listen, even if the guy did, she's like, was it his landlord? And she's like, so I'm typically okay. She was typically, she says, I like renting to them, especially if they're on probation. She goes, because I'll call their probation officer. And then tell them they have to go. Well, no. Like, if you dodge me for four days, you know your rents due, I call your probation. She'll call the probation officer. Say, listen, here's what's going on. The guy's not calling me back. So he's about to be, I'm about to start filing. Would you like to call him? And they'll, they're like, oh, I will call him. They'll call right there. What's going on? You need

to call her right now. You need to fix this right now. Because let's face it, you know. That's a good motivator. Right. So she understands the system more than most. But it, you know, it's funny. It's like, it's like Biden. Like they're like present, calm down. I know you like watch yourself, dude. Watch yourself. It's the same thing I, I, I, I, I, it's the same thing. I, I, I, say with Trump, like, people are like, I have those Trump paintings that I, that I sell. Well, you're Biden paintings, by the way. I don't have any Biden pains because I think, because Trump sells because people are, they are, like, I don't want to say zealots, but what would you say? Like, they're fanatics.

They're, like, fanatics. Like, they love him. That's, like, the problem with, with DeSantis, of course. Like, if he runs, like, he can't run against Trump. Like, you know, even though I think he'd be a great candidate for presidency, he can't run against Trump. Because these guys, are zealph. Yeah, they're fanatics. Like, they're not going to vote for it. It doesn't even matter. They're not even thinking correctly. Right. Like, so, and it's not a conservative thing. I just think it's just a matter of it. He'll split the vote and whatever. But it's like, with Trump, it's the same thing. Like, I don't mind your policies. Your delivery so bad that people dislike you, not even because of what you necessarily say. Not even because of your

policies. It's the way you're saying it is so over the top horrible that people dislike you for it. Or what? People love him for it. Or they love him for it. You know, you're right. I have friends that like, that, that, that, that think he can do no wrong. And I'm like, God, but he was so obnoxious. He's so narcissistic. He's so, and he wouldn't, there were, there been times during his presidency. He was wrong. You're clearly wrong. Just say, look, I made a mistake. You're right. I heard this. I heard that. I wasn't thinking about it. No big deal. Wouldn't do it. You won't apologize. You won't say you're wrong. Come on, stop. People, people wrong. People make mistakes. But it's the same thing with like with Biden. I know people that despise him. They hate him. He can do no, do no right.

But yet, I'm okay with, I don't know about how much money they're giving, but I'm okay with supporting Ukraine. I love his position on China. Right. This is long term thinking. Stop this problem now before it spills over and gets to us. Because anybody who thinks, oh, it'll never get to us. It'll never affect us. Well, you're fucking, you're delusional. So you have to draw a line in the sand. But so there are some things that I absolutely agree with. There's some things that I'm like, are you insane? Like, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. The spending's outrageous. Like, there's something that's crazy. And the other thing I noticed, too, is, listen, the Republicans, if there was a Republican president right now, he'd be doing the same.

thing Biden's doing with but instead all the Republicans are this war is insane this is crazy that are you serious are you serious that if there was a Republican president making these decisions you'd be 100% behind behind him same thing with China it happened he Biden's harder on China than Trump was you don't see that I don't see the Republicans going you're making the right move it's oh sometimes some of them do but a lot of them aren't and in same with Ukraine that's that's politics That's a kabuki theater is when all that is But I don't think most people see that

Even when you watch like back to the Dilbert thing And then I'm going to let you talk for a long time But back to the Dilbert thing The The Like you couldn't even get an impartial panel Or impartial people discussing it That these are

Anchors That I was watching them kind of Break apart the Dilbert range or the, not Dilbert rant, the Adams rant. Right. So I was watching them and I mean, they couldn't just say like he was said this and that was inappropriate and that was wrong and that was it. They had to go so overboard and call him crazy and this and just and then and then it was.

But you did it. Did what? Said he was crazy. I'm not an anchor. I'm saying. So it's like, and then they were, they were, and they were being like, they. They were saying stuff that was, God, I wish I could remember some of the things. It was like, they couldn't be impartial.

They had to go overboard. And they were going so overboard. And it was such a long rant that some of these anchors were doing. I was like, this is really overboard. Like, they're really going overboard. And then I was like, these are two white anchors that are desperate to let everybody know how not, how offended they are by this, by racism. and how disgusted and how and the more they went on and all, the more

all I could think of was how scared they were. And it was like, you're really going overboard. Like, you're pushing this so hard because of your fear. You're like, I get it. It's racist. You're against it. You think that what he said was

inappropriate. I get it. Let's move on. They just couldn't. They just went on and on and it was over the top. All right. So quickly, before I give my opinion. I get my long time to talk. Yeah, I'm good. Right. I got to quickly, what, what do you think should have happened from him saying that? What do you mean? Like, do I think the SWAT team should have kicked in his door and strung him up, uh, in, in the front yard or something?

Like that didn't happen. I mean, but no, yes. As far as the, as far as the, I mean, what do I think happened was what should have like, so like he goes on a racist. Rant. A little rant. Little rant. A little sarcastic, racist rant. What do you think should happen? Well, first of all, I'm a huge believer in free speech. So I think he can say whatever he wants. Okay. And the problem is, I also think that the newspapers that said, hey, we're not going to

carry your, you know, your comic anymore, you know, do they have the right to say no, I guess, that they're just not interested in carrying that, that. But other than, or carrying his comic strip any longer, like, other than that, like, I don't know that what should happen? Like, what do you do? Like, he made some sarcastic, you know, racist comments. And he, you know, like, what do you do? Like, there's no, there's no law. He shouldn't go to jail.

He shouldn't be sued. Right. Like, somebody like, like, well, like, what's happening? Like, I don't think that, I think that everything that's happened thus far has probably fallen into line, which even if it was extreme. right like some of these people are are being extreme I still don't think it it like he's being treated super unfairly or anything exactly you know so it's hard for me like I do see people going a little bit overboard but you know but here's the thing those are probably people who go a little bit overboard

anyway in general yeah also the thing is it's kind of funny too like in a way I kind of feel like, but those places that don't cancel him for cancel culture, which is fucking stupid, but I'll give you an example, one of the things that these people that they were saying, like the woman, this female anchor was like, oh, and then Elon Musk came in on Twitter, and then he said this, and then she's reading off what he's saying, and then as, and I was like, okay, no, like, I'm not, it's no big deal. And then she's like, I mean, he's just stupid. Like, he's just, Elon Musk is stupid. I thought, really?

Elon Musk is stupid. Really? Let's think about this. You're a news anchor. You think Elon Musk is stupid? I mean, you read what's on a teleprompter and you're, and visually, you're not offensive to look at. You think Elon Musk, who from a child who ended up being one of the founders of PayPal and

took that money and then sput it into Tesla and, took Tesla and is now trying to go to the moon and has come up with, you know, a space program that's rivaled, that's actually taken business from NASA and done it at a discount who built an entire array of charging stations across the entire country is stupid? Like, honestly, you should be canceled. She should be canceled. Like, that's, like, it's funny when, when it shifts to them, they're always like, you can't. You can't. do that? What are he talking about? Like, this is Elon Musk. Like, who cares what his politics are? He's brilliant. Who can say he's not brilliant? Well, she can. But, um, like you,

he's been known to cure insecurity just with his laugh. His organ donation card lists his charisma. His smile is so contagious. Vaccines have been created for it. He is the most interesting man in the world. I don't typically commit crime, but when I do, it's bank fraud. Stay greedy, my friends. Support the channel. Join Matthew Cox's Patreon. So, like, to use your arguments against you, it's free speech. So she's able to say it. And cancel culture is, you should be canceled. It's cancel culture, like, let me start there, and I'll work my way back to Scott Adams. Cancel culture is beautiful for whoever, is calling for the cancellation.

So when I watch now and they're saying the FBI should be defunded and ended, I'm like, yes. So, but defund the police back a couple of years ago was horrid. Defund the FBI is absolutely logical.

Cancel culture is for whoever is like what you just said I don't like. That's who cancel culture abides. And I agree. I agree that if you got a newspaper. You want to show your... The new BMO VI Porter MasterCard is your ticket to more.

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He said some racist stuff. Let's drop him. Let's kind of, let's show some support and let's drop him. Okay, 30% of our base is, let's drop him. Like all our readers are white conservatives, let's keep him. In fact, let's move them to the top of the cartoons. You know, here's the funny thing. It was going to say, like I said, like, it's appropriate.

They have the right to do that. Yeah. Right? But if you said, Matt, if you were running the, if you were running it, would you remove it? No, I wouldn't remove it. I wouldn't remove it. Well, you would depending on who your customers. Yes.

On my customer base. Yes. But I think in general, it's like to me, if. John Grisham came out with a book that was good and he had made racist comments, would I still read his book? Yeah, he's a great writer. Like, I love his stuff. I read them. They're great. Like, if he writes a good cartoon and you like the cartoon that I would probably keep buying the cartoon. Did you ever read Dilbert? No. So I don't care if he's going. I'm sure it's a great character. I never found him funny. So it doesn't matter if he's gone.

You're right. For me, it doesn't matter. It probably doesn't. It probably to, I don't know. He's popular. Right. I think it was a movie. I think he had a movie or something.

Was there a Dilbert movie? I think so. I think there was. Is that a Hawaiian shirt? No, I don't think it's Hawaiian. No? I think it's more like an Auburn. It looks like it.

It's a very dark Hawaii. You put a lot of leaves on. It looks like a fall shirt or something. something? Yeah. In the springtime? They make fall shirts? Yes. That's one of them. That's one of them. All right. And going back to Mr. Scott Adams, I think he's emotionally removed. I don't personally think he's a racist. I think he's, as I was saying before, probably before, we took a break. But I think that he's just not around a lot of black people. I think if you live a life, like you said, like Queen, If you're not around a lot of black people, you don't quite understand the queen of England.

Oh, the queen Elizabeth. I immediately thought of the group queen. Like, is this the real life? I know, right? Like, is this just fat? All right, so. Fat Bottoms girls started playing him. Oh, my God.

Love that song. They make the rock and whirl. Go around. All right. Like the queen of England, I think he's just. moved from black people so he doesn't understand. I'd give it ignorance. And he's not speaking from a point of view of hanging around black people.

If he had been around black people, he would never say that. So for him to ask someone to remove themselves from black people, like most people find that to be impossible. They would be like where, like in the city or depending on where you live, it would be an impossible task to move away from one race. And what about the Hispanics or the Asians? I mean, why single out the blacks? Well, I was going to say, I don't think,

listen, like I said, I almost feel like it was a sarcastic, stupid rant that I'm sure at this point, he definitely regrets, but I also think he was just, he's, he's digging in? Yeah.

What he's saying is it was misinterpreted, which is almost, you know, anyway. Instead of him just saying, like that was probably dumb of me to say. Anyway, apologies don't matter anyway. I mean, in cancel culture, apologies don't matter.

They want you canceled anyway. I've seen some people apologize for doing some crazy stuff and they still ruin their lives. You know, so I mean, the consequences, when they come, they come.

You can't avoid them. He's an old guy. It's not like he's 35 years old and starting his career. Like, he's an old guy who's got old money. Old guy tons of, he probably made a bunch of money,

probably perfectly fine. Yes. You know, what's going to happen? You went on a little rant. you went too far you know and dilbert wasn't that great so you'll fade into the the background and you won't be in the comic strip hall of fame um yeah uh i i was i was i was gonna say what what else did he say what we mean on the on the thing on the rant yeah oh um he was saying

to move away yeah we were and and yeah but he was he was also saying like don't even deal with them stop dealing with black people go to white white own and white respected business. Did he really? I didn't see all that because I told you I couldn't find the rant on, but I just saw bits and pieces as it kind of broke up. Stop supporting the things that we promote. You know, like he's saying he was doing that, but now he's going to stop supporting the things that black people promote. It's like, get out of here, man. Whatever. It is, the whole thing is ridiculous and it got everybody's hair on everyone's neck standing up and now he regrets it. So we just thought we'd bring that up. But I'm hoping

that we can do more of these podcasts about current events. You love this. You love this. Listen, I love political. We started talking about this the other day and we talked for like an hour and you were like, we should be, we should be filming this. Yes. And like what I will do is I will start writing down some topics and we should just come in

because if I think we did our best talking before we got here. Yeah, yeah. This is horrible. I don't know who's watching this. Like you have nothing to do. if you've watched this much. There's so much better content on YouTube. Yes.

There really is. But we had better conversations when we first. So I need to bring it up. Just come in, show you what I want to show you. And then, hey, let's talk about it.

You know, it's funny is like when I was listening to it, and he was like, you know, you need to move far away from blacks as you can and this and that. And I was thinking, I was thinking, yeah,

you could move out to where I live. Like, I live way out here. And this is, this, would you say this is upper middle, You would think, but it's not. There's black people out here.

That's what I was going to say. Now, you don't understand the whole street. That's what I was saying is I would consider this. These houses are selling for four, five, six hundred thousand. And it's a nice neighborhood. It's like living in the Truman Show. You know, like it's a super nice neighborhood. There's no crime.

There are two sheriff's deputies that live on my street, right? But the thing is, is that everybody, the people that live next to me are, they don't even speak English. Right. They're like a retired, older, retired couple. We don't know where they're from, honestly. Like, I'm like, are they Spanish? Are they, like, I don't know. You know, and Jess is like, I have no idea where, you know, you just can't, they're older.

You know, old people, they're already, they're old, they're distorted looking. That's a horrible thing. It sounds messed up. But stop. I'm just saying, like, they're old, like, you can't say, like, are they. You'll be there soon. From the Philippines or are they from South America? I don't know.

Right. So, and, you know, and even their access. a little off. I'm like, nah, something's not, it's not. Like, I keep telling Jess, I'm like, you understand that guy was probably a dictator of a South American country? Probably killed a bunch of people, took, stole all the money from the treasury and moved out

here. He retired to Florida. He's in hiding because they don't say hi or anything. They're like, they're like, kind of like, hello, sir. And they walk in. It's like, this is weird. So, I got that. The people next to me, like, the guy came over on the merry old boat lift. The whole family's

Cuban, right? Then, I've got multiple black families in the neighborhood, Hispanic, Cuban, like the riffraff. And they all have legitimate jobs. Like they sell insurance, right? Retirees, they sell insurance. They're police officers. The riffraffed in the neighborhood. The bad element is this house.

Like the white people, the only one of the few white people families in this whole neighborhood, we're the ones with felonies. Like, we're the ones that I walk out there. It's like, bad for these people. But the problem is, you. You're living in Hillsborough County. No, this is, I think, well, it's close, whatever. Oh, no, this is Pasco, yeah, you're right.

It's Pascoe, this is Pascoe. You're right, I stand corrected. I stand corrected. Pascoe County is definitely supposed to be mostly white. Yeah, yeah. I guess that's on the other side of Pascoe. I don't know, that is, wow. I think it's across, like you have to go to the other,

but then they're building, they're building so many houses. There just, there just is no, it's funny. I was walking with Reese, remember Reese? Yes. Walking with Reese one time, he was going on a little rant. And I looked at him and I said, and we were in Coleman. And I said, yeah, you know, I hear you, Reese. I said, but what you really have to understand, you'll be a much happier person in the future.

I said, is when you realize that, I said, the future is beige. I said, and unless you're ready to take a gun to small children, I said, it ain't changing. No. And that's just the reality. and you'll be much happier when you realize that. Yes. And he was like, I know you're right. He went on all kinds of a rant.

Listen, he went on a rant one time for five minutes about how, like, there's nothing in the Constitution about providing free education. And he went on this whole rant about free education. And I was like, I agree, bro. We shouldn't be, we shouldn't be educating these people. And he's like, right. I said, you're 11, 12 years old? I said, there's nothing wrong with worth working in a factory.

you should be those kids those poor kids we could have them work in factories they don't have to know how to read and he looked at me he was all right now that's not one of so i'm not saying that i said i said you need to think about what you say something like because let's face it like the truth is is like there there's already forms of socialism right like free education free like in a truly capitalist society that wouldn't exist correct so you know everybody's you know everybody doesn't mind the what's an acceptable pushing of the envelope. But anyway, it was so funny when he I was like, yeah, let these kids work

in sweatshops. I missed the Reese rants. God, you were nuts. Yeah, he was. Well, you know, I never got to hear the real. See, I felt like you heard the real rants because it could have speckles of some of his honest opinions in there. For me, it was more rant about people

or guards or the system. Yeah. Which there was never any speckle of racism. And regardless of the race, racism. I know Rees liked me. Oh, he loved you. He's like, man. I love Zach, man. But he's black. You're like, but he's black. I think you told me that. You told him, but he's black. He's like, yeah, but he's like Xanadoof.

Him. Jason Weeks. Like all, all the white guys that shouldn't have liked certain black guys all loved you, which I'm not sure, you know, I don't, I'm not sure how you feel about that. I don't know. But I was going to say, like, it's funny because. when I went to prison was probably the first time I'd ever really realized that there were these real

deep lines that were drawn in society. Because in prison they're not pretending about, like it's clear you're black, you sit over there. I'm white, you sit here. Well, Coleman

didn't really have that. Well, I mean, it did. Now, when I left Coleman, I saw that. Right. It did to a little bit of a degree, but not, not as I'm sure it is in other prisons. But in any way at all, I'm saying, like, when I was out, like, I would, you know. In the low they had that, they said it was still like that. It was honestly, the low wasn't, other than the fact that the inmates were different, there wasn't that much difference. And honestly, I probably saw more brutal fights in the low than I saw in the medium. But I was

a lot longer. Yeah. But, you know, remember I told, like the first violence I saw was a guy got hit with a lock and that was in the medium. I saw that happen multiple times in the low. In the unit. Yeah. I've seen that too.

Saw guys get cut with a razors. Yes. I've seen that too. You know, in the poking, poking high out. Yeah, I've seen, yeah, it's, it's, that, that is a brutal experience. And when I went to the pen, the racism is intact. And, and you know what's, and this is another long story. but there was a gentleman there, and I need the, his name, Mont.

And he was, I'll never forget this, because there was a Spanish guy, him and I would talk all the time. His name was, well, I called Perez. So we talk all the time, and a couple times, they're like, hey, Perez, you want something to eat? I'd have chips, and I, hey, you want some chips? And he'd be like, no, no, no, I'm good, I'm good. And Mont told me, like, one day I'm offering him chips, he wouldn't take it, right? And Mont said, you know, he could never accept any food from you. I'm like, what?

He goes, his people would never allow him to accept any food from you. I'm like, are you kidding me? Like, he made me aware, like, and there was a line I didn't know was there. And even though we talked all the time and we were close, he could never cross that line to even to eat what I was eating. Whether he wanted to or not because of the racial line that they draw. So you're right. It's very there.

It's eye opening. And I've seen it a couple of times in society. I've seen racism in society. I was going to tell you about one of the times a confrontation I had with the police, I was out with this in high school with this white girl. Christina, I think her name was. Anyway, we got a very white girl name.

Yeah, we got pulled over. Wendy, Betty. Becky. Becky. That's the one you're thinking about. We got pulled over. And so the police asked me to get out of the car. I'll never forget this.

so the police asked me to get out of the car and pissed her off oh you're only asking him to get out of the car because he's black I can't believe you're doing it you wouldn't be doing this to him if he was black you could get me shot yeah so I'm at the car

and I'm telling her calm down please calm down please calm down no F these cops there are a bunch of boys she's going on and on and I'm like calm down right so the cop tells me

he goes you understand what's going on. He goes, I'm going to give you 30 seconds to calm her down. Like, he took me out of cuffs so I could put my hands on her to like, you have got, like I had to beg her

to please calm down so that we both can get out of this situation. Right. But she felt like, no, that's bull. I shouldn't have to calm down. It's obvious what they're doing. Like, yeah, well, it could obviously get worse. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? The worst part will be us not leaving together. So let's try to shoot for that. Or leaving together. Right. Let's try. And I had to convince her that the only way that we were going to leave this situation, okay, is it for her to calm down and shut up.

That was the only way. Like, I had to give her a look like, shut up. For her to calm down. But she was like this, she's one of, like, I've learned the liberal white females that I've met in college in most of my life where they are. The system is unfair, and I'm going to speak out boldly and loudly about it whenever I spot it. You know, and I've always been like, don't do it around me. Because I'm not trying to get the system pissed off when I'm sitting around.

I'll do that myself. Is it what I felt. But yeah, that was, like, the cop was basically telling me, like, you know that I treat you like shit. And you need to calm her down and let her accept it. You know what I'm saying? Why were you in cuffs? Because I was doing 45 in a 35 zone. Oh, really?

Yeah. Not because you had like a suspended license or anything? No. He's like, get out of the car. Because of her. They told me to get out of the car and she got out. They're like, what are you doing, ma'am? Get back in.

This is on West Shore Boulevard and Gandy. I'll never forget this. I'll never forget this. So I had other, because I was living out there. Anyway, look out point. I had an apartment. But anyway, on West Shore and Gandy, they pulled me over. They said, you were doing 45.

I'm going down West Shore coming out to Gandy, and I had just turned. And they pulled me over. You were doing 45 into 35. So step out of, immediately they told me to step out of the car. So I got out of the car. And she's like, why is it getting out of the car? Why are you getting out of the car?

They told me to get out of the car. You don't have to get out of the car. She immediately lost her mind. and so we're there cars are going by and she's screaming as gas stations and people are like what the hell's going on over there and she's screaming at them y'all are racist that's bull crap

you would never ask me I've been pulled over seven or eight times I've never been asked to get out of the car I'm like where did they get your ass next time they're going to be a note you let's go be a note on your file yeah but the cop honest to God

the cop told me he said you understand what's going on right because that's when they put me in cuffs when she's screaming right so like they don't even like want to restrain her it's like okay turn around put your hands behind you back she's screaming oh why are you cuffing him up blah blah blah blah you know and I'm like this is progressively getting worse she's screaming they're telling her to please calm down but for me it's like okay now we're going in your pockets yeah like now like this is getting worse and worse and I guess the cop realized, okay, the more we're doing to him, the more madder she's getting.

So fix this is what he asked me to do. And he let us go. He really, believe it or not, he gave me a ticket and let us go. You know, but he told me to calm her, try to keep her calm. Well, I mean, I definitely, I'm going to have to give her more of this big dick, you're on the officer. I'm sorry. I definitely think, I definitely think that the cops are just like, it's insane.

Like everybody I know that gets, you know, that they, they don't use. They use inappropriate force a lot of the times. It's like, oh, it's for our own safety. It's like, listen, bro, you went to arrest a guy who committed, you know, tax fraud. You guys brought 12 guys. Like, come on, man. What are you doing? How did they come for you?

For me? Yeah, copters. Oh, when they got me, they, God, there had to be at least 12. They blocked off the old street. It was insanity. Like, it was insane. But look, in my case, granted, I was on the run. Like, I'm sure they thought he might take off on foot.

He might, they don't know me. Right. Like, you know, but who knows, you know, what they were thinking. But I know guys that were like, like literally they're, they're coming to their, you know, when they came to get Dan, right, my buddy Dan, like he had always shown up on time. He'd met all of the, you know, and you know multiple guys like this. Like I had gone to every court of parents. Right. I'd been there.

I had an attorney. The U.S. attorney knew I had an attorney. The attorney had been told by my attorney. If you do indict him and want them to show up, just let us know. But they don't do that. They come to your house at 6 o'clock in the morning with 12 guys, surround your house, embarrass you, bang on the door. It's like, I'm here because I was the office manager at a pain clinic where you arrest them. Some doctors were over prescribing medication.

Like you arrested me. I'm facing maybe a couple of years in prison. I'm not violent. I have no weapons. you came with 12 guys and banged on the door at 6 o'clock in the morning to arrest me. Well, they're claiming that they don't never know what they're facing, so they're ready for all. We've got to wrap up.

But I mean, you know what I'm saying? It's overkill. It's overkill. So, all right, what are we doing? We got to wrap up. I need a pencil on paper. I just remember the story I want to tell. Did I ever tell you the story about when they came to my sister's house, the police?

No, what, you probably did. Where they made them come out and get on the grass. I never told you that story. No, I don't, I, you might have a long time. This is a hard piece of bait. Yeah, what? I probably just put it in my phone. Let me put it in my phone.

But I know tons of guys that were stockbrokers that got arrested, like they came, they, they, they banged on the door. And then they, they would act like, you know, well, we didn't know where you were. You didn't know where I was. I have an attorney. I've gone to four different court appointments. Like, stop it. Like, like, you're doing it. Right. You could have called me. Like, just like you're saying right now, well, they don't know what their fate. No, they could have called and said, can't have him turn himself in. Like, I'm looking at a couple of years. Nobody's going on the run. Right. You know, call me. I'll turn myself in. My lawyer called you. He told you. U.S. attorney said,

oh, of course, we'll, we'll make that call. But you don't. Right. You do it as a show of force to try and scare me to embarrass me in front of my family, to embarrass my family. It's more of an embarrassment in my kizmo so they can feel like they're tough cops. Like, yeah, you got this guy. Yeah. Jerks. Did you know I wrote a lot of, a bunch of books? Yes. In prison? So check out my book. Trailers. The trailers. I made these little trailers. They're awesome. Check out my website. Oh, yeah, yeah. Go to my podcast. Yeah. Websack. Zach's Black. Black. Black. I had nothing to do with that. Black Zach. No, he had nothing to do with that name.

All right. See ya. It's kind of like the people who are like, give the United States back to, oh, to the Indians, to the, to, which Indians, which tribe? Because, like, the Mohawks were killed off by the Apache. The Apache invaded, like, there was so much intertribal, right? Or, you know, intertribal warring going on between, like, they weren't. all fucking holding the hands and singing kumbaya bro like who are we giving it back to the siminals like who the seminals weren't even in this area they moved them from you know you're saying

from a completely different location like who are we giving them back to like i know it sounds good it's cute my favorite was there was a white woman one time um in texas and they were talking about all the Mexicans coming across the border and the they were like what do you think we what do you think the answer is you know all and because there was

there was a bunch of robberies from and they were everybody that was wrong they were Mexicans they were illegal Mexicans and they were like they talked to her and she said she goes she said I just

you know I just want the United States to be like it used to be and my first thought was you mean when the Indians owned it I was like, like, lady, you need to think about this. Like, what do you mean? Well, people speak, why don't we go on air? Yeah, well, I don't know.

Oh, okay. Oh, okay. No problem. Well, people, people speak, people speak in in absolutes. Yeah. Not to go back to our data, but people speak in absolute terms. And they want a spot in their mind, in their perception of where they want to. to get to. Right. You know, and that to them is the promised land or the, the, um, the, the,

the holy land. So when they're like, hey, I want to get back to, like I might say, I want to get back to my younger days. Well, I mean, there was, I struggled a lot in my younger days, you know, but I'm thinking about my health, you know, waning. So it's, it's just, it just depends. So people have a euphoric vision that they kind of just grasp for. Yeah, but that euphoric vision probably never really existed. Never did. You know what I'm saying? Like, they're like, well, you used to be, listen, there was never a time when everybody was walking around holding hands, you know, like I said, singing kumbaya. Like, it's not, that doesn't exist.

It's never going to exist. It's silliness. Like, you know, I get it, but there was, it's funny, too, because I think, you know, it's funny. It's kind of like the, you know, the Confederacy, right? or the confederate states like what you know during that time period do you understand that that all but the bulk of work or a lot of the work was being done by obviously by slaves that there was very little invention um at all like they were like it was the the entire economy was stagnant because you were kicking back letting these guys do the work and you're

kicking back. So there was no real, you know, there were no inventions. There was no, there were no strides. Innovations. There was no strives in innovation. There was no, right. There was no middle class or lower class moving up, moving the economy. Why would you? There was no upward, there was no upward momentum. And technology was at a standstill. Right. And the North was actually doing a lot because they didn't have slaves and they weren't interested in slavery. I'm not that there weren't some, but, but in general. Free market. Right. So in a very real way, after the Civil War, like after, obviously, there was a huge downturn in the economy. But when it came back, suddenly the South came back super strong. It much stronger and they evolved much quicker than when they had the slaves. Why? Because now we have to do something. We have to work. We have to put the status quo is no longer available. So now we have to, you know, innovate and come up with different machinery and come up with all of these different things that helps start, you know, basically make up for all the labor. that is now missing.

Right. But people don't think about that. No, no. There's all kinds of stuff. Same thing with the, I was going to say, like the Civil War, like,

well, I mean, I just think there's, there's a lot of revisionist history that goes on. So, I was going to say, like, kind of like that.

Well, it's, it's all perspective, though. So, sometimes it's just fact. No. Well, yes.

So we, we live in, like, I, I herald the fact that I live, lived in a time that I like first of all like with the first black president or Donald Trump a billionaire an entrepreneur becoming a president so there's things that that have gone on in my day

that when I read in history I'm like wow I wonder what is like to live when certain things went on like I'm not saying I'm happy about 9-11 but we we live through an attack on the United States you know so you like you have a perception of different time spans that that we live through. So there... Historic events, right. Historical events. So there's my perception of certain things in the event. Like, I might be happy about one thing and I've said about another. You know, with the same thing with Donald Trump. I mean, there are people who said he didn't lose to Biden. You know what I'm saying? So it's all, even though, but Biden became president anyway, but it's all a perception of how you look at. Just like what I was saying the other day about,

you know, when I'm teaching a class and these guys walk in and just go pummeling on a guy. You know, they're like, man, they just beat that dude's ass for no reason. And then somebody else goes, man, that dude finally got what he deserved. You know, it's like, it's the same event, but it's different perspectives. You know, so it's kind of the same thing with the Old South or people thinking back when the confederate was alive. But you're right, revising history limits the opinions.

So don't take away the facts. Take the facts of what happened and let people get the opinion of what they learned or what they felt they was for. Keep that there. Don't revise it, but just give the information of what happened. That's like that doesn't see even, okay. So here, you want to start with the, the Gilbert thing? Yes.

Gilbert. Gilbert. Sorry. Gilbert. Gilbert. Okay, hold on. So you want me to do this? Yeah.

Because that's what, what? What? All right. All right. Like that? Yep. All right. It's just to see the spike in the feed so he can line it up.

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