Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - EXPOSING TRUMPS MEME COIN , DEEP STATE SECRETS, & MORE!

Episode Date: April 3, 2025

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Trump is using crypto to pump and dump with all different types of things. It's the perfect scam. They said, can't give you anything because it's a matter of national security. Like, this is just bullshit. Do you believe in the deep state? I, I, I. hate to be that guy. Trump is using crypto and the fact that it's 365, 24-7, that he can basically pump and dump

with all different types of things. So, for example, one of the biggest things that just recently happened was somebody put in a $200 million long position at 50 times leverage. So that sounds like a lot of numbers, but basically that means Bitcoin, as volatile as it is, can't fall beneath 1.5% of where it was when he put in that. So when he clicked buy and submit, it couldn't have fallen by one percent or else he would have lost $200 million. The upside for that was only like $10 or $15 million.

So it's basically like a huge risk for little reward, but it's basically insider trading because if you know that that's going to hit, you know, you're willing to risk the $2 million if it's a sure bet. So this was put in just an hour or two right before Trump posted on truth social that he's going to create a crypto strategic reserve for the United States, which obviously when that news comes out, that's going to launch Bitcoin's price up, which is exactly what happened. So this guy risked $200 million to make $15 million.

And he's got insiders basically pumping and dumping all of that. this stuff 24-7, and now Wall Street isn't able to get in on that. So it's really interesting to see how this is all playing out with Trump essentially utilizing the crypto markets to make a lot of money and pump his own bags, even more than he has previously. Well, so when did, let's go back to the beginning and start with, when did, you're saying there's multiple coins and currencies that he's a part of. So when was the first one put together? Yeah. So he got the Trump coin, which was put together before he even got elected. And it was built on this crypto called Solana. And the creator of this cryptocurrency is a huge donor to the Trump

campaign. So the Trump coin was created on this. Then is Trump, but I read an article. So, but Trump isn't the owner of the coin. He's just allowing them to use his name. Basically. It's like, almost like, kind of like... But he does get 75% of all the earnings. Yeah. Something like that. Like, that's a lot. Yeah. And it was a huge, huge rugpole. I mean, when it got up, you know, it made millions and millions of dollars right off the bat. It went from basically non-existing to like a couple billion dollars worth in market cap right off the start. So, you basically create something out of thin air you say Trump just got elected here's my meme coin everybody goes and bumps and buys it it's kind of similar to what we saw with like the hawk

toa girl if you guys saw that going on it's like that but now it's not just memeers on the internet it's presidential candidates using this so did Trump own how much of that coin did Trump own so Trump like you said he owned like 75% of the proceeds that was made off of there But not the coin. He doesn't create it or anything like that. He just has a team of people like, you know, shadowy super coders behind the scene creating all these things for them. But Hock toa girl, she owned a portion of the coin.

That's how she made her money. Same kind of thing, though. She didn't create the coin. Like the Hock to her girl talking about blowjubs in the internet is not, you know, creating a cryptocurrency token. Right. And neither is Trump. He doesn't really have the time for it.

But we've had the Trump coin. Melania made a coin. and then baron made a coin as well and all three of them you see as soon as they're created big pump up and the big pump down um so people just on the inside essentially own uh they say like 70% of this token as soon as it's launched uh they just a lot of the insiders sell off after it goes up a certain amount so you see a lot of people try to buy into these things and then get them pumped down. So there's basically a lot of insider trading going on with all of this because the cryptocurrency world has essentially been the Wild West. And the previous administration, Biden

and all them, they tried to put like unnecessary handcuffs on all of the industry. And now Trump's just taken off all of the handcuffs and letting it go back to the Wild West, which you know, creates a big issue. So there's kind of two sides of the coin here. You You could have Biden where, or like Kamala, where everything would be like essentially extremely controlled. There would be no freedom whatsoever or you could have Trump and it'd be essentially the Wild West and anybody in their mother can create a crypto token and rug polia, which is essentially what we're getting right now. Okay. So what, I mean, what's happening? Are we done?

Is that, that's the whole? No, no, I mean, because this is. Thanks for coming. Yeah, this is the huge issue with all of this is that you're using presidential influence for all of this. And then you're going to use now not only the presidential influence, but the U.S. taxpayer dollars and what's going on with that. So what a strategic reserve essentially implies is that the United States is going to hold cryptocurrency on the country's balance sheet. So when Trump made this truth social post, he mentioned Cardano, Solana, XRP, and one other cryptocurrency token in his first

initial post. And all four of those guys were at the Trump inauguration. They were huge donors to the Trump campaign and basically just threw a bunch of money at President Trump to say, hey, you know, be nice to us in this next coming four years. And then on top of that, they're using their influence and their money from these pump and dump schemes to fund Trump's campaign and then put them on the United States balance sheet. So when you do that, then, you know, the U.S. currency is going to get, you know, more manipulated and everything else. So instead of, you know, we had the bankers previously where, you know, if you look into the Fed and everything that went along there, I mean, you know, with like the mortgages and the banks and everything, if you had money,

people were just lending you more money to buy up a bunch of assets now they're doing the same thing but they're doing it more out in the open with all of these cryptocurrency tokens and essentially all these big guys are just coming in and yeah like utilizing their their bags to pump and dump the general public i'm i'm losing you aren't i yeah i don't well because i don't i don't i mean I feel like he you know like I wonder how that how that happens like somebody approaches him and says hey we want to talk to you about doing a cryptocurrency and you know we if he's and he's saying okay well what are you going to do like I don't see Trump having the I don't see Trump understanding 100% how all of this works so I see them saying look here's what we're going to do

we're going to start cryptocurrency we're going to call it the trump coin and we're going to we just want you to give us your name just like you would on a hotel like you're not running your hotel this hotel in florida or wherever your name's attached to it and you know whatever the uh wind is going to you know uh steve win is it steve win is going to let's assume his name is steve win i think this steve win is going to run the hotel we're going to call it the the trump golden hotel and we'll run it for you and you'll get x amount of dollars and he's like okay that makes sense to me that's okay um every once while you know if you want to mention it you know mention it or or You have to put out three tweets a year or a month.

And to me, he's, you know, he's, I'm sure he's like, okay, and you're going to make a bunch of money off the hotel. What's the same thing? Well, this is a cryptocurrency. We're going to put your name on the Trump coin. And people will invest in it. And, you know, it's kind of like the Hocua girl. Like, she's not, not that I'm saying Trump is stupid, but she's not sharp enough to really understand what's happening. to me if my name was on it I would want to say it has to be 100% legit it has to be

but these guys are all going to be like oh it's going to be legit it's oh no it's have your people look at it and you know who knows I just wouldn't want my name on something that I thought would be questionable but then again if I thought hey you could make 400 million I might be like well you know people are their own risk people invest in their own risk. Well, I mean, that's essentially what's happening then, right? I mean, you know, Trump has his team behind him, right? And then all of these people are in his ear and giving him a lot of money anyway. And they're saying, hey, you know, you could build this cryptocurrency on whatever blockchain it is. Here's $100 million, $200 million, whatever it is. And they're going to make

tenfold on that crypto token because they know how much Trump's name just carries this weight. The reality is, is like, you know, the insiders are the guys that are making a bunch of money on these tokens, and it's taking advantage of his platform, basically his name and all of these other things. I mean, there's a prime example of the Argentinian president, Javier Malay. He tweeted out something about this token called the Libra token, right? And basically, he's, you know, went and backtracked shortly after, but, you know, he had a token that went from zero to a, 4.4, 4.5 billion dollar market cap in a matter of hours because he promoted it. And then that $4.4 billion was wiped out on the face of that just like that as well. The difference is, is Argentina is, you know, obviously significantly smaller than the United States. But people getting

into the president's ears of all of these countries essentially are just, you know, playing with monopoly money and that's going to make this house of cards that we're sitting on essentially collapse right because we've had some sort of crisis previously where you know people are lending out money on on homes and just saying whoever gets uh you know this mortgage that they can't afford essentially we're doing that except instead of the ruse of banking we're doing it all in the ruse of cryptocurrency anybody that puts like they're a bunch of money into crypto is it's so questionable and it is so volatile and it's a volatile market so you know you have to understand that you you couldn't lose a chunk of money you know so that's kind of like the

the thing with uh what was it uh the the what's his name did um the zoo coin or what was it called the crypto zoo crypto zoo and those got like it's like anybody that's investing a bunch of You got these guys that are saying, you know, I put $40,000 into it, and I'm down to $1,500, and this is bullshit. It's like, bro, the truth is, you put $40,000 in it because you thought you were going to be one of the guys on the way up. And now that you turned out, you bought it at the top, and it just dropped. Now you're upset. I got screwed. You wouldn't have said shit if you'd been the guy at the bottom as it was going up.

You would be like, yeah, man, this is a great coin. So you see what I'm saying? Yeah, but I mean, like with that, right, it's like, all right, if I were to tell you, hey, Trump, back to this cryptocurrency, most people would think, okay, this is something that's legitimate. The problem is, is that if a president of the United States is trying to back it, right? Yeah, you would think. The problem is the majority of these things aren't that he's backing. And so that's the bigger issue is that, you know, we have the president of our country

kind of out there shit-coining and encouraging people just to gamble on these tokens, which is the bigger root of the issue here. because he obviously it's not him right he doesn't know like you said what he's getting into he's not on the phone like saying you know sell it you know to get someone so and so let's drum this up get me on now somebody said hey can you can you drop a tweet and about this and say this and yeah or what is it again yeah he had his team do it right and and and the the funny and i guess the unique twist of all of this is that he's been basically putting in out executive orders for all of this, right? So he's signing these things into law very quickly. So what happened a few years

ago was the Silk Road. I don't know if you're familiar with that or your audience, but essentially it was just like the black market on the internet. People were using Bitcoin to buy guns, drugs, everything else. Yeah, have people killed. Exactly. Albrecht. And then he pardoned Ross Albrecht, who just got free from that. But essentially, you know, the, The Silk Road had a bunch of crypto and Bitcoin seized from there. It was like 200,000 Bitcoin that was seized from that instance, especially when Ross got arrested. So what he did was that United States seized Bitcoin just moved over from like

seized to a strategic reserve. So they didn't buy anything else. But they had a bunch of all these other crypto tokens that they seized as well. And so they're basically just going to be buying. Bitcoin and just keeping the other seized crypto tokens, like the XRP, Solana, whatever it is. But they tweeted out, hey, you know, we're thinking about putting into this Strategic Reserve Cardano, Solana, XRP, all these things. And then they saw in a day those things nearly double in price and then get dumped off right there.

And they did it on a Sunday night, too. So basically, if you were paying attention, you were able to get in and get. it out really quickly, but majority of people, you know, including like traditional finance, Wall Street, where, you know, not really on the computer looking at all those things. They were at church. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, yeah, Wall Street at church, right? That's exactly where they're at.

But, I mean, essentially, you know, it's just a giant government pump and dump. I mean, we've all seen the Nancy Pelosi's and everything else, right? they're she's the best trader of all time with all of her insider trading now they're just utilizing cryptocurrency and doing it on the weekends so not only are we seeing the stock market where you know trump is kind of going at pelosi elizabeth warren and all these things saying hey the government's corrupt when in reality he's still utilizing a lot of the things that they're doing previously it's just he's doing under the ruse of cryptocurrency What do you think, Colby?

I don't think it's... I don't think Trump would do this. I wonder what is like, like, what do you think, what convinced him to do that? Like, why would he, why would he make the coin? Like, what does he have the game?

Yeah. It seems like a risk that... It seems like... The risk reward factor for him specifically is just like, why would he do that? That's exactly it. It's like, why are you doing that? He's already a billionaire, right?

So why is he? he, why is he letting his team create all these cryptocurrencies for this? It doesn't make any sense. Well, is it his team, though, or is it just other people that he knows coming to him saying, hey, we want you to attach your name to it? I mean, if I was him, even if you said, no, you don't have to do anything. You just attach your name, just like it would be like us running a hotel, you attach your name.

Try and even if they downplayed it to simplify it so it didn't sound like it was nefarious, I still would be like, I don't. no i'd be like i don't know guys it's questionable i don't feel like i want my name attached something that could possibly lose people money you know no matter what they were saying to them because colby and i have like not taken sponsors and stuff because they were cryptocurrencies because they were and colby's like look i don't know enough like these guys are launching a cryptocurrency they want you to advertise it and i'm thinking i advertise this people lose money i end up in front of a judge saying, your honor, all I did was advertise. I would have a hard time

justifying that in front of a judge saying, Your Honor, I just, you know, it'd be like, well, that's what happened like four years ago. Yeah, what's the, Paul and all those guys, they exactly did that. What's the, uh, the quarterback that? Tom Brady. Yeah, with the FTX. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Tom Brady. Yeah, like his whole thing of, hey, I just, I'm just advertising. It's like, I, the, what bothers me about that is that, you know, to me, when I'm, when you're telling people to invest, you kind of take on a fiduciary responsibility to at least investigate that. And if you were to say, hey, can you do this? And I were to say, I would need to look into it.

And the truth is, like with that cryptocurrency, Colby and I don't know enough to look into it. I don't know enough. It sounds legit. I don't know enough to say. And if I didn't know enough to feel comfortable with it, I'd be like, no, I can't do it. so I don't know what that conversation was what if they asked for proof of anything if there were negotiations if lawyers were involved plus is you know plus the other thing is like he's making a bunch of money but he doesn't really own any of it you see what I'm saying so it's

kind of like is it a pump and dump if I never bought the stock bought the stock early it jacked up and then I've sold it like I didn't really have a a specific there was no specific event that I took part in where I yanked it. You know what I'm saying? Like I didn't... Yeah, he didn't do it necessarily himself, right? He's not behind the scene saying buy, sell, or whatever, right? It's somebody coming to him and saying, hey...

You see, there's 600 guys on a fucking Zoom and he's like, sell, sell, sell. No, yeah, okay. Yeah, it's not like that, right? He's just getting approached by somebody saying, hey, we'll give you $200 million, $300 million, whatever it is, we'll give you this amount if you let us put your name behind it, which will make us a billion, $2 billion, $4 billion, whatever it is, and we'll give you a portion of the proceeds going forward. So, I mean, that's basically what's going on here, and it's like presidential candidates. It's not like, you know, Matt Cox here this time. And like last

time, last, like four years ago, this was Jake Paul and all these other influencers. Now it's like presidential candidates that are getting in on it and presidents of countries. So that's where it's the bigger issue. It was like before it was a big quote unquote influencers that, you know, would be able to be put in front of a judge, then they get sued and all these things. Now it's like presidents where like you essentially can make the laws. Honestly, though, that's not even happening. Even with these guys, they're just never like these rug poles, they just never seem to catch up

with them. Yeah. And that's what I'm saying is like it's essentially the wild. West, right? So like, what was coming on before is like, you know, Gary Gensler, he was the guy in the SEC. So he was essentially attacking everything except for Bitcoin, basically delineating the differences between Bitcoin and crypto. He said Bitcoin was essentially, you know, looked at as property or as like an asset where everything else was looked at as a security. So if it's looked at as a security, that's similar to a stock. So you have to adhere to

basically stock trading rules right so they're not making them do that but they're not yeah they're not making them doing that now and now that you know gary ginsler's out and you know all these people are in with trump he's just basically saying like instead of trying to overregulate it we're just going to underregulate it and then that's where we're seeing all of these wild west pump and dumps coming in and that's where you know things are going to get pretty crazy here in the next four years unless something kind of changes, where, you know, President Trump can now tweet out at something. You can hack anybody's Twitter account, and you're going to see, you know, massive amounts of just influence being thrown around in financial markets.

And then now there's even more money being thrown around. Before, it was just like retail traders, right? It was like, you or I, you know, people with an outlawed a lot of money being able to be thrown in. Now it's like, all right, you have the black rocks of the world. who have access to Bitcoin and everything else. And, you know, you've got now potentially nation states, like the United States, being able to throw billions and billions of dollars at these different kind of cryptocurrencies.

So before these pump and dumps, they were a big game, so to speak, because a lot of people with money would potentially throw it around. But now, like, the difference of, like, a billionaire compared to, like, the United States, which has, like, trillions of, dollars worth of debt on their balance sheet being able to throw this kind of money around, this gets to an extreme that we've never seen before. We all love betting sports, but let's be honest. Sometimes you need a little more action once the game ends.

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pump and dump scheme. Of course, the way they're probably looking at it is, it's just, it's just a bunch of conservatives losing money. Yeah. Some of them are making money. Some are losing money. Yeah. So they've basically been like kind of the Democrats from that side of things have been really been promoting that Bitcoin is for criminals and that's their whole thing. And then they're just kind of conflating it all and saying, hey, you know, Trump is a criminal. He's got X amount of whatever. He's a rapist. All these different kind of things. So this is why he's promoting. He's a felon. Yeah. That's why he's promoting Bitcoin. And same thing with Elon. They're like, Elon is, you know, I don't even know what they're saying about Elon these days, but, you know,

all the crazy things that they're coming up and saying. He has your social security number. Yeah. He wants your, he wants to steal from you. Yeah. He's a Nazi with a salute and all that kind of stuff. right like all these different kind of things so when you ask them about uh bitcoin and that's the democrats first answer is like well Elon really hates everybody it's not for free speech it's all about control Elon and trump and all these people are trying to control you but they're putting it under the ruse of free speech and freedom and all that kind of stuff when in reality it's it's not really like that so the overall i guess the vibe check from uh what uh you know, what the question was, the vibe check of everybody for this crypto token that Trump is

creating is like, well, he's basically like he's playing with a lot of fire here. Like, why exactly, like you said, like why do this? It doesn't really make any sense. All of these crypto tokens, they have massive amounts of marketing dollars behind them. Why are you getting into bed with things that we've seen that are already, you know, proven to be scams? Like, we've seen. We've you know FTX we've seen you know all of these other guys right kind of get into to bed with these politicians we've never seen it to this extent but why are you doing that when we've seen whatever happened like four years ago potentially happen again well did you see the Tucker Carlson interview with yeah you got put into like solitary confined yeah yeah yeah you got

thrown the shoe for that yeah yeah he's supposed to get permission from the public information officer he didn't Oh. So it was kind of his fault. Then how did that even happen? How does he get like a Zoom thing? Does everybody just have access to? Well, I think in that facility, your visits are through Zoom. So I think probably Tucker Carlson just, you know, they just arrange like, hey, can we, well, how about we do one through the regular visitation? And he was probably like, yeah, sure, that's fine. You know, I mean, it doesn't take much to get approved. Yeah. And they're supposed to be randomly watching. They obviously didn't randomly watch and realize who Tucker Carlson is. You know, hey, this guy's, maybe they're watching, maybe they're not.

If the cop's not, I'm sorry, if the CO is not watching, then, which obviously he wasn't, or he didn't realize what was happening or didn't realize that it wasn't approved, you could have a whole 30, 45 minute or an hour long conversation. and then Tucker Carlson took it and cut it up and stuck it on the, you know, on his, his website. And then two days later, somebody at the BOP saw it and said, was that approved? And they looked and saw that it wasn't approved. And it said, throw him in the shoe. She's going to be punished.

And they threw him the shoe, you know? So, so then what's happening then from there? Like when you're in the shoe, you just can't. He'll be there for 20 days or something. They'll give him a shot. It takes about 10 days for them to come see you to write you a shot. So you basically get thrown in the shoe. They don't tell you really anything typically.

They just call you into the lieutenant's office. They put handcuffs on you. They arrest you inside of the jail. I always thought that was funny. It's like, what is this? What do you think I'm going to do? You think I'm going to get away on the compound? Like, I'm not going.

I'm like leaving the prison. Why am I in handcuffs? It's just stupid. They'll handcuff you and they'll march you down to the shoe. And then they check you in and they strip search you and they put you in a cell. And you could, the whole time you can be going, what's going on? What's going on? So you get like no explanation or anything like that?

So within 10 days, they have somebody who has to come see you. I forget the name of the guy. But he comes and sees you when he's got the report, like the incident report. And he'll say, did you get permission to be interviewed by Tucker Carlson? And, you know, SBF's going to be like, okay, no, what happens? He's going to be all twitchy and not know what to say. and I didn't think it was a big deal. I, you know, okay, well, you were supposed to get,

I didn't know that. And okay, well, we're going to have a, then they have a, they have like a little trial. We're really, it's just a couple of guys. And so you say whatever you're going to say. They come back like a few days later, a week later. You come, you go in front of one or two guys. You argue your case, and then they just make a decision.

And they might say, okay, you're going to spend 30 days in the shoe. Of course, you've already done so much time already. Yeah. Or they might say, you don't, you just lost your commissary for two months. So you can't go on a comm, or you can't use the phone. Probably that's what they'll do to them. You won't be able to use the phone for anyone other than your lawyer for the next 90 days. And then that'll be it.

He'll get a shot. He might lose three days or 12 days good time, which is, you know, you get good time. That's it. Like nothing will happen, but he will have to sit in the shoe for a while. And honestly, I don't know what the shoe is. was like there but like the shoe in coleman like every time i went to the shoe in coleman it was like a vacation because you're just sleeping they had a shower in the uh in your in the shoe and each unit had its own shower extremely hot water uh and you have your own you know your own uh toilet and sink

combo the little silver one you know the little stainless steel one and there's a bed and sometimes you have a roommate but usually there's so many people there aren't that many people and the COs will come to you and knock on the, hey man, you want a roommate? And you'd be like, no, I don't want a roommate. Or they'll come, you know, or you might be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, send somebody in here.

Because I was in the shoot one time for like 45 days. Yeah. And after about 20 days, like I was thrilled. I had no roommate, nothing. I kept saying no, no, after about 20 days, they were like, hey, Cox, you want a room in? Like, yeah, sit somebody in here.

Yeah. They'd been 20 days. Like it was, I just read straight for, I was reading like a book every two days, you know? But you got to got to a point after 20 books. I was just like, yeah, send somebody in here. I'm getting a little bored. And that guy came in for like 10 days. No, maybe five or 10 days. And then his somebody he knew came into the shoe. And they were like catty corner. And then he was yelling. They're talking

across the hallway yelling. And he, you know, obviously you don't want to do that for too long. So the next time I came in, he said, can I switch cells? And it was like, yeah, that's right. So like the next day I think they switched cells and they were just chatting right away then they put somebody else in myself he was there for three days and I think I left at that point I left okay I went back to it was by that point it'd be like 45 days something about but yet it is not that bad it's not this horror if you're like I was it was horrible it was like I was only there for four four I've been locked up several times the longest one was 45 days what got you in there for 45 days I had been writing letters to a reporter.

Ah. And he published an article written on the letter about he and I talking. We talked on the phone several times about the interview. So similar to what? And I went to the shoe. Okay. It's funny too because they never really said it. I remember the reason they said they threw me in the shoe was for my own protection.

Because in the article, they interviewed my attorney and my attorney said, Mr. Cox is cooperating with the FBI. So they threw me in for my own protection, not because I had spoken with the, like that never even came up. They were like, look, Cox, this is what they said. This is what the article says. Like, do you feel comfortable going back on the compound?

I was like, yeah, I'm fine. It was the medium, but I was like, yeah, bro, I'm not worried about it. Yeah. Like, what, nobody here's going to say? What are they going to say? You know, I was like 90% of the compound fucking cooperated. And he goes more than that.

No, actually, I think, I think I said 50%. I go 50% of the compound cooperated, bro. Like that, and he goes, it's, it's way higher than that. He said, but he was 100%. This is where I got this term. You've heard me say this. He was, but 100% of them are lying about it. And he's like, so whether they cooperated or not, they're all lying.

So they're all going to say they didn't. So basically you've got an entire compound full of stand-up guys where 90% of them cooperated. So I was like, yeah, I'm not worried about. about because they were going to ship me and i didn't want to be shipped my mother lived an hour away and came to see me every couple weeks so i didn't want to do that so i said no i'll go back on and i went back on the compound i was fine you know nobody even tried you no nobody even bothered me um but you know with spf doesn't even have that problem his whole thing's like it

trust me these guys would be like if he came back into the unit like today guys he'd be like bro what's up man they'd be like i don't know they're like what were you thinking why didn't you call Why didn't you try and get permission? He'd be like, I fucking don't know. I was just stupid. Yeah. Like it was thought it won't be a big deal. For him, it's...

Yeah, he didn't really, I don't know if you watched that. He didn't really say much. He just like, his biggest thing was just like, yeah, like the crypto industry is like still kind of the wild west and everything else. And that's where I think it's kind of, I guess, like unique where he was basically, I guess, like fell on the sword, so to speak, for all of the pumping dumps. And then now everybody's just doing it out in the open. And this guy he tries to go on, I mean, I'm not saying he's noble or what he did his right or anything like that.

But they really tried to make an example out of this guy. I think he said he's going to be in jail for like the next 25 years or something like that. He's got some problems. Yeah. He's got some problems. Like, you know, the, I wonder we should go back. Because remember that video I did, we did where we guessed how much time he would get? Yeah, I want to say.

I want to say. I want to say he said something very similar. to what he got like 20 years 25 years and he ended up getting close to what i said and i think i forget who who it was that was say was this you may they said he was going to get 10 years or something or somebody i think it was you and zach that would yeah and Zach say and he's probably said oh he's he's going to get five years or 10 years or something like but then again you know what it was elizabeth holmes had gotten such a little time she got like 12 years and they ended up cutting her sentence down to like seven years or nine years like it was ridiculous like the amount of

time elizabeth but she's a woman yeah we had a whole video we did a whole video yesterday about women getting sentenced they give it they they get less sentence well like his uh spf's girlfriend didn't even get in jail i think she cooperated like without her it would have been a much different trial she she gutted him yeah and um did you hear about the stuff they were doing like allegedly in the corporate office and all that what do you mean they were basically like they were saying there was like a huge orgy basically going on with all of that and uh yeah it was just a lot of craziness going on but i mean obviously you know without her like you said she sent the text messages that said sbf was basically like oh sell off a bunch of bitcoin you know dump the

price at this point and stuff like that so yeah he was orchestrating the whole thing through she's just kind of a button um but uh yeah the the idea of her and the other people um having an orgy is not taste it's very distasteful i'd be different if there was all like attractive people they're all like if they were all looked good but they were not it's not it's not a good look at all no i like to think about that at all no it's it's a tough scene to look at that but like allegedly like i'm saying that that caroline ellison was just having the time of her life like it was it was not just s bf but all the guys were just like you know going to town and they were there was allegedly they were taking a bunch of drugs in this f tx headquarters in bahamas and just

having orgies and then like you know because if you look at him he's always like kind of like fidgety kind of uh all that and so i think in the tucker interview they asked him like were you addicted to Adderall, basically. And he said, no, he's never taken it, which kind of seems hard to believe, just because of how fidgety he was before. And then in that recent Tucker interview, which, you know, he can't be really on drugs if he's locked up like that. He could be, but he's probably not. Like, he's very unlikely that he is. He's got, it's funny, I wonder why. So he's appealing his case, right? Yeah. Yeah. He's, I was going to say he's, that's why he's still there. He should be in a, in a, in a.

facility right now, a federal facility. I think he's like in the same facility as Diddy right now. Yeah. That's what killed me is that Tucker Carlson, Tucker Carlson's like, I can't believe you're locked it with Diddy. Like he was excited about it. He's like, tell him we said hi. He's like, bro, I wouldn't be

acting all excited about Diddy. Like it's, uh, what? No, I'm just, I'm just kind of scrolling to this video about SBF of you and Zach and trying to find it, your predictions. I saw where you did. say that uh he's going to get out in his like late 50s late 60s but yeah it's hard to find that exact prediction but yeah we have we've had a guess that uh has been locked up in that same

prison he was actually locked up with SBF yeah really yeah he said that some guy was giving him a hard time right yeah so and he kind of protected him he protected SBF this guy yeah he said he's like why would I don't understand like I mean it's like a financial crime so I don't get like maybe you have better insight than I do, but with financial crimes, are people trying to go at you in jail? Like, more like the white collar stuff? What,

I mean, go at you in what way? More like, it's more like they would probably be trying to extort him. Ah. Like, buy me something on commissary. Okay.

I forget exactly. Bullion, basically. Yeah, and I forget exactly what Gene had said. Yeah, I think he kind of, what I, at least a picture in my head,

I don't know if it was something that he said or not, But, like, that just, you can just tell, like, by his demeanor, and, like, kind of, he's just kind of like, like, a little hermit. Like, he probably's getting, like, could potentially get bullied around, you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, he's a nerdy guy. Yeah. And, and, too, he's arrogant. Like, arrogance is not going to go. You can be arrogant when you're the boss and you're pushing and pushing everybody else around because you're the one with all the money and you, they own the company.

But in prison, if you're making snide comments to much bigger guys that are drug dealers that are used to. being more physical, then you know, you're going to get your ass beat. Like, you can't, like, you need to watch what you're saying. And if you're, you know, if you're smarting off to people or even making little snide comments, like you almost have to be overly, um, uh, polite, you know, to everybody. Because otherwise they'll, they're looking for an opportunity to be offended and get into an argument or a fight. And with, with him, you know, you've seen how arrogant he is.

I'm sure you seem less arrogant. I'm sure it humbled him a little bit being in prison to say the very least. Yeah, and the Tucker Carlson thing, he definitely seemed less arrogant. Yeah. But he's still super odd. I mean, yeah, it's just kind of unique that

you know, we have FTX now like still locked up but, you know, we're still seeing this stuff in plain sight and now essentially everybody's just paying off the government in order to avoid these kind of things and like get into bed with the regulators. The problem is SBF just got on the wrong side.

and he blew up before or his thing blew up before Trump was in office. I don't know. Actually, maybe that's... Yeah, come on. Well, he was also not buying. So the biggest issue was he was doing the

like is kind of goes back to the difference between like basically running a securities exchange and just not buying anybody's whatever they're saying. So, like, not buying Bitcoin or Ethereum or whatever it is. Yeah, I thought he was borrowing against. Yeah, that was the biggest issue with all of that. So I kind of backtrack of what I was saying earlier. So, but.

Well, yeah, we can cut that. Yeah, well, Oliver, the goat there. Oliver knows. Oliver knows. Oliver knows. What's really sad is that we'd probably lose our Oliver completely. He's going to be like, I don't, you know, these guys seem really smart in the finished product. Yeah.

Guys are, they don't really know. That's another thing about it. I'm like, yeah, I don't. This is a horrible subject, too, by the way, because like I have no understanding. Even after, by the way, even after reading two articles, after those articles, I was still like, I don't get it. Like, I feel like, like, if I was Trump, I would not want to put my name on something like that. I agree. And that's why I think like the biggest issue with all of this.

I don't think it's illegal. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't feel like it's illegal. I feel like I would be smarter about what my name is attached to. Why don't you think it's illegal? Well, I guess I could, I mean, like, essentially, right, insider trading to its core is illegal, right? And that's essentially what's going on. But that's, but like, just like you said, he's not specifically in charge of that.

And he doesn't, he would, in order for him to be liable for that, he would have, he would have, have to know that's what's going on. And I'm pretty sure that at no point did anybody come to him and say, here's what we're going to do. Well, I mean, it's essentially like, right, Nancy Pelosi doesn't know what, doesn't know what her husband's investing in, right? It's like, it's essentially the same exact thing, right? I mean, Trump's not an idiot. He's going to know anytime you put his name behind something, that thing is going to pump like crazy. But it's going to do well. Right, but that's the whole reason. Why do we put my name on the hotel? Why? Because you were going to get better clients and better people and people would stay here over someplace else.

If that's what his thought process is, yeah, cool. The problem is what he doesn't know is that these guys are, these guys that it's selling and that they're going to, once it hits a certain level, they're going to start pulling out their money and they know it's going to crash. And there's the thing, too, is it hasn't really crashed, crash. Like it's gone up. Yeah.

First it was shit. Then it went up because he won the election. Yeah. Which, of course, this fakes it. like what a great like we're going to dump a ton of money into it and hopefully this guy wins and it'll go up it goes up and then it goes back down did it go back down because they started selling off at a lower prices or did you just go down because it went shot up and then it stopped selling so well and people started selling out because they thought it's the high end and then

it started going down and then like is this something where they said hey we're selling 25% of we own 50% we're sell 25 you know what was the were they in charge of of the manipulation of that, of the value of that currency. I don't, I don't really know. And then did it completely crash to where it's worth 20 cents, uh, you know, I mean, I don't know. So you're talking about Trump's thing, Trump's coin. So it was, it was launched on, I guess, inauguration day.

Yeah. January 18th. Let me see if I could get the price, the starting price. I mean, I think it was under dollar. The quickest thing I can get is like $8. Then it shot all the way up to 65, 75, 71, and now it's currently at like 10. Still up.

Well, yeah. Yeah, but I mean, like who is buying the truck? Like, see, it's launched on an inauguration day, right? Right. So it launched. Marketing. Yeah, but it's launched on inauguration day. It goes from what, like, $8 to $6.

to $65, $60, and then now it's floating at, what did you say, Colby, 10? Yeah, so it's up like, what you're talking about it? Overall, it went from $8 to $10. Okay. Was there a spike? Yeah, there was a spike. You couldn't go down to $2 and then it goes back up. Yeah, but that's what. But so the thing that I don't, I don't think that you're grasping here is.

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access to what just happened so there's probably very few people on the retail side of things that got it at eight dollars probably majority of people got it above that 10 dollar range that it's at right now that actually would have open market access to that so instead of it just being like hey it's a crypto token that's on the free and open market and anybody could buy in whenever and like oh, I bought it at $8. No, that's not really the case. Majority of these people that actually had access to buy these things bought it over $10 where it's at.

So majority of people lost this money. So the people that came in early, all the venture capitalists, all of that, they were the ones that got it and then saw it run up to the $65 and then dumped down. So it sounds on paper like, oh, okay, well, you had the opportunity to buy it at $8, and now it's at $10, you're up. That's really not the case, and that's how all of these things work in reality.

So that's why I think that there's an issue with it, and there should be, you know, some problem with it, because it is all insider trading. Like, only a select number of people with big, big dollars have access to this initially. Do they say what the use case, like what is a purpose? Or is it strictly just like a meme? Like, hey, support Trump, be on the team? They literally said it's a meme coin. Like Trump meme coin is what they're. what they're calling it.

So there is no, like... There was never supposed to be a benefit. Yeah. There is no benefit. So the benefit is I'm able to donate to the cause. Exactly. It's like my Patreon. You're not getting anything back.

This is not... At no point, would the $10 a month that you're paying into Patreon be worth anything more? And at no point in you getting that money back is not going into a fund. This is just $10 wasted every single month unless... Maybe that's a... better marketing boy than the live streams yeah just donate to me because we need the money well i i've listened to a video on the way over here and it was saying that uh uh i i want to say that they are saying like this is a way for him to be funded by these other countries like these other

countries can like pump on the end and he can he's able to pull it out and like nobody knows how but he's not pulling it out like he doesn't own any of the coin there is what there's what Well, he's getting 75% of it. Yeah. So if they dump, if they put $100 million into it, he's getting $75 million. And there is one account that has like 75% of the Trump coin in its wallet or something. Yeah, I mean, there was at one point in time, right? It's gotten sold and sold off.

But the reality is, is just like because of Trump and because of him being able to say, hey, the U.S. is going to do this. I'm going to sign this executive order, all this and that. Like people have just made so much money off of it by doing this inside. trading like like I said at the beginning there was this you know uh putting in a couple hundred million dollars to make 10 million dollars on 50 time leverage like you saw how much the trump coin went from literally eight dollars to 65 back to 10 right like imagine like a one or two percent movement on that that's like you know 80 cents or whatever or you know a couple

dollars on that trump coin well like with bitcoin and all these other cryptocurrency that happens at the drop of a hat. So if you're able to do this and know which way the market's going to move, you can take huge leverage that nobody else can really play with and then make massive amounts of money right away. And that's what all these guys are doing, right? So there's this theory and kind of like the conspiracy of all of these people, yeah, other countries and everything like that,

being able to get involved with it. There's also, you know, I guess rumors floating around that all these other countries are buying. Bitcoin underneath the table. Who knows really what's happening until that all officially comes out. But the reality is, is like Trump is kind of utilizing all of this to pump and dump a lot of things. And basically, you know, all of these shit coins are at the forefront of it. But I mean, there's been rumors of other countries using Bitcoin and everything like that to avoid sanctions. like Russia allegedly was selling oil and gas

using Bitcoin and cryptocurrency to avoid the U.S. sanctions when Biden was president. But I don't know if that's something that really sparks your interest there. Sorry. I was going to say, what's Trump's plan with crypto? He wants crypto for like the whole economy or whatever.

Yeah, so Trump wants to be the first, known as the first crypto president. so I don't know if he wants to tie he wants to tie the American dollar to Bitcoin right kind of like we were tied to the gold standard yeah I don't think that's really possible what he wants to do is basically have like a bunch of Bitcoin on the US balance sheet so there's going to be a few different ways that we're going to do that the Bitcoin Strategic Reserve where they're tossing around the idea of buying up anywhere from like a million to five million Bitcoin, which, I don't know, valued at like 80,000. That's like in the trillions of

dollars worth of Bitcoin over, you know, four or five years. And then they're also looking at creating a sovereign wealth fund, which basically just invest in a bunch of different companies and things like that. Like a lot of the big nations have that, except for the problem with the U.S. is that we operate at a deficit right now. So we're getting more and more in debt every single year. So that's a big reason why Elon is in there with the doge to cut a lot of the government spending, because we're, you know, funding things like, you know, transitioning rats and stuff like that. All right. Yeah. I don't feel like you have a smoking gun. You don't think? On Trump. I don't think there's a smoking gun. I don't think it's a smoking gun on Trump necessarily. I think that it's just like

all of these crypto guys are getting in with Trump right now in order to, you know, essentially, pump their own bags and Trump doesn't know enough right now in order to like kind of come at it. And so his thing is essentially allowing all these people with a bunch of money coming in and saying, hey, like, you know, we'll give you X amount of dollars for this campaign for whatever it is. And then we're going to make tenfold on that. And we're going to come in and rugpole all of these people. And, you know, Trump and his campaign are going to, you know, and his team are going to benefit off of that and then they're going to use all this to you know who knows what but you know essentially pump and dump back to try to pay off the debt it seems do you think crypto

will ever not have the stigma the scam the scam stigma so i think that as long as you have the cryptocurrencies that have like a marketing department or something along those lines there are always going to be some sort of scam associated with it because it's just human greed. The unique thing with Bitcoin is that there's no marketing department, like the creator of that, just kind of disappeared. So that's why, in my opinion, it's the only legitimate one because everything else, you know, you get the ex-RP guy going in with President Trump, and he's paying millions of dollars to get in the room with him. He's paying millions of dollars to get that mentioned in the crypto strategic reserve, and eventually those marketing dollars are going to run out unless this pump and dump scheme

keeps going along, right? So all of these crypto bros are basically coming in and just saying, hey, pump our bags and we'll continue to feed you more and more money. And the reality is the only one that doesn't have that is Bitcoin. And that's why it's unique in a sense because it doesn't have a marketing company coming in and pumping millions of dollars into, you know, paying off a campaign guy in order to get this mentioned or this truth social post out there. And so I think that's the issue.

For the average everyday person, what's the purpose of crypto other than just an investment? Like, I think I used to know the answer, like, oh, why people would use crypto, but it's been a couple of years and I've just totally not paid attention to it. I kind of forgot. Yeah, so the use case of Bitcoin is basically like peer-to-peer cash. I don't know if this is like your fee. But is there like a huge transaction fees? No, there's not.

So like you can transact things to Bitcoin or you can send micro payments of Bitcoin to everyday people, right? So like for example, I don't know where you guys have your editors. I have an editor in Pakistan. I have an editor like all over the world. So to send them money, it's very difficult. You got to send them money through, I don't know, like Western Union or something else. I could send them $10 over the Lightning Network in Bitcoin.

They'll get it in an instant, and it's a final transaction, and that will cost me no money whatsoever. Whereas if I were to send somebody $10 over Western Union, it wouldn't make any sense because the fee is like $20, $30 in order to do that. So I'd have to send massive amounts of money. So you can send essentially quick and easy micro payments and you don't need an intermediary such as a bank. So that's why that that's basically the use case for for Bitcoin. Cryptocurrency will try to tell you that you can put anything on a blockchain and that's, you know, making it more efficient.

In reality, a blockchain is not really efficient at all. Do you think crypto will like take over eventually at one point where it's like? everybody's using it to transact or do you think that's not a real reality i think uh eventually we'll get to a place where it's either something like the dollar is backed by bitcoin which is kind of like the indirect way of where we're going with trump building the strategic reserve and having all these different kinds of assets on it but i think eventually we'll get to somewhere where you know they won't want governments in charge of you know money so to speak people are going to be very resistant of that, but something like Bitcoin can be used in order

to transact where it'll let people transact money whenever, wherever. So like, for example, right, like everybody knows Kanye West. He's billionaire, but, you know, he started tweeting some crazy shit and Jamie Diamond and JP Morgan shut off the access to all of his money. And, you know, like a couple years ago from a bank, right? So you can do that. right now with bank and money that's controlled by somebody else but as people kind of see this sort of dystopian way that potentially banks can manipulate you you know uh they're going to lead towards something like a bitcoin where you can hold it on your phone you could hold it you know personally and you don't need that intermediary you can have all the access to your money before that was like

cash right like people would have cash everywhere drug dealers would have cash beneath these walls and everything like that. Now, you know, like 90% of the dollars that are in circulation aren't printed. So in order to actually access your money, it's reality it's just a number on a screen at your bank. So what you can use Bitcoin for is essentially as like peer-to-peer cash, right? So if I wanted to pay you right now, I could pay you and I don't need permission from somebody else. Now, if I were to pay you with my bank account, you need like Venmo, cash abs, Zell, all these different kind of things. And so Zell or, you know, Chase or Capital One or whatever these bank accounts are, they can

shut off your bank account in an instance. And so this will kind of let you be more free to transact as you please. I'm killing this guy. Bro, it's not you. I promise it's not you. I am exhausted. Are you upset? No, I'm not upset.

I'm not upset. I don't care. Yeah, with crypto, I was going to say that they could do the whole. You can only spend $300 on gas a month. You can only spend so much money on groceries. You can only buy so much meat. Well, that's what's going on in China right now. They have their own, they call it like a CBDC.

So it's like a central bank digital currency. So instead, like right now in the U.S., the way it's structured is like there's, you know, 400 different banks that you could potentially have a bank with. Right. Well, in China, there's not that many. Like, in Canada, there's like six, you know, like around the globe. They don't really have as much access to different banks as we do. So it's easier to control.

So China has this CBDC that they've issued to people and encouraged them to use it. And then they issue a social credit score. So say, you eat too much meat. You watch too much porn. You played too much video games. You did whatever that they didn't like. You gambled too much. Whatever it is, they limit your access to your money.

And, you know, we saw that a couple years ago in Canada, you know, happened just up the road from us in the Great White North where, you know, these truckers were protesting over, you know, not wanting to get a vaccine to work. And they shut off all of their bank accounts from that. people that donated to them as well so despite like everybody probably potentially watching this that's like american or whatever like this happens around the globe and it happens to people as well i mean you know just say what you want about conier but having a guy that's you know billionaire uh having his bank account shut off because people didn't like them can happen to anybody yeah it could happen to anybody

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came out. I don't know. Maybe you can tell me when you came out, was it harder for you to get a bank account with everything or no? It was, I know guys that have fraud charges that literally cannot open a bank account. Yeah. Like they'll go open the bank account and three days later it's closed. In fact, I know a guy who opened a bank account at his mother's bank and when they realized that the mother that this was his son they closed his bank account and they closed hers yeah she'd been with the bank for like 30 years um and uh so i and i know that i opened a bank account at uh bank of america when i got out i'd open one at wells fargo that was fine i opened one at bank of america they took my whatever it was 1200 bucks or 800 bucks wherever it was

I opened it with. And about a week later, I got a check in the mail. And they closed it. When I asked why, they were like, you know, you can call this number. And they called the number. They were like, yeah, we don't really have to tell you why. But the only reason, the only reason, it was the only bank I had had a problem with. The only reason it would have been is because I do owe them a considerable amount of

money, a few million dollars. I feel that they're holding resentment. And it's like, that. Like that was 20 years ago. go like get over it bro what are you doing so uh but yeah apparently that's that was the only one though it was the only one and i that's what i think it was i think that on the books i owe them money and they so they were like this guy again not this time um so yeah yeah i think that's it but i know guys that have fraud charges that literally they have a hard time opening a bank account for some reason there's

some kind of a system out there but i think my charge is so old that maybe i'm not a part of that system or maybe it only stays on so long that you fall off after some point you know and i'm harmless like in my name i never i never screwed any banks over in my name okay not in my name yeah that's right that's i guess maybe that's the ruse that maybe that's why i don't know i don't think they're thinking that far into it they were they'd be like no no he signed up as him he's fine yeah but that didn't they're just like oh that guy so whatever we'll see see yeah i mean that's interesting uh because i would have thought like you know you probably would have had a little bit difficult more difficult of a time you would have thought yeah thought

i didn't know yeah like when i got out why i had been locked up so long i had no credit so i with by the time i left the halfway house i had like seven i had a seven 54 credit score by the time i walked out the halfway house because as soon as i got there i got three secure credit cards i just made the minimum payments or not the minimum i didn't really put anything on them yeah so i barely made any payments. I had almost no debt on the card. So by the time six months had it passed and scores appear after six months and they gave me scores, my first set of scores were like $7.54. So it was kicking ass. I was like, nice. You know, and I'd be like, you walked out of prison out of the halfway house with a $750 credit score. I'm like, yeah. Yeah. But I know other guys who will go to prison for

three years and when they get out, their credits ruined. It hadn't been so long that it fell off. You know, for like seven or eight years, all your bad debt starts falling off your credit. By the time I've been locked up so long, it was 13 years plus three years on the run. It's 16 years. After 16 years, there's nothing on my credit. I walked off. They were like, I went to go get my credit pulled. And they were like, there's nothing.

Stand up citizen, huh? Yeah. I'm legit. Yeah. What do you think of the JFK files? Do you think that they're actually going to get released? Because, I mean, we've had Trump now kind of say it a couple times. I honestly said yesterday's.

He said 80,000 will be released today. Yeah. Unredacted. I mean, he's also kind of, he's been, everything that he said he's going to do, he has done. Yeah, for the most part. For the most part. I think what's funny is that Tucker, there was a Tucker Carlson interview recently with, what's his name, Chris Como or something?

I don't know. I can't remember his name. Anyway, this was like a journalist from, former journalist from CNN. Real jackass. Anyway, he's on there and he's I think he was interviewing Tucker Carlson on his podcast And they were going back and forth Not in a bad way

It's funny too because he was actually pretty funny He was comical like he wasn't as much of a jackass As I was hoping he would be He really felt like he would be It was actually kind of funny And his whole thing was First he started off talking about how he doesn't believe In the deep state that's just silliness

But then as they talked about it Um, he was like, well, you know, I feel like this is the Chris, what's his name? Chris Como? Um, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I know, white guy, CNN. Como and, um, Tucker Carlson, right? Yeah. Chris Como, CNN.

Let's see if I got. Chris Como and Tucker Carlson. Oh, nice. It is him. Yeah. Chris Como. Oh, I got it right. Yeah, he, I don't know if you remember what he, like he had something come out where he was like

sexually harassing some lady at CNN. Oh, no. No, no. That's why he got fired. Well, he also did the whole Joe Rogan is taking dewormer medication. And, you know, they all did that. Yeah. But so when he's talking to, what's the name?

So at first he starts out like, I don't believe in the deep state. I don't believe in all that. That's just silliness. But then as the conversation goes on, he ends up saying, well, I feel like, you know, when someone like Trump gets in or Obama or whoever, like they have these things that they want to do. And then they fall to the wayside and they don't do them. He's like, because I feel like somebody goes to them and kind of says, look you can't do that you know like that's and here's why and you just can't do it we're telling you

don't do it he's like I feel like there's and and Tucker Carlton's thing goes yeah the deep state yeah he's like that's the deep state that you don't believe in that guy because you get talking about how there's a machinery that's at work that you enter into and so you don't necessarily have as much control as you think and Chris and Tucker Carlson's like that's the deep state you do believe Even the deep's like, no, no, not like you guys believe in it. It was just like, anyway, but yeah, they were saying like he feels like when Trump first entered office, he was going to do all these things. And then he kind of just brushed it off. Like he did.

He's like, look, once I realize what was in the JFK files, I realized I can't, I can't release those. Yeah. So that was the company. And then now four years later, then you get your, you lose the election. you retake the White House. Now you're like, I'm releasing them, no matter what, I'm releasing them. But yet they don't get released. Same thing with like Epstein.

You're release them, release them. Okay, well, what you released was a joke, you know? We had an interview with a guy who talks about how he did a bunch of investigation into Epstein. He wrote a book on it. Oh, no, he didn't write a book about it. A similar situation. A similar trafficking ring, yeah. Right.

He said that he had done a Freedom of Information Act on Epstein. Mm-hmm. And he said that they said, no, it's, it's a open investigation. We can't release anything. He was okay. So then Max, uh, uh, uh, Guzzal, uh, whatever it made Maxwell. Galane, Max, right? Galane Maxwell, she, Galane Maxwell goes to trial or, or gets sentenced, whatever.

Yeah. FBI director, whoever it was, somebody in the FBI comes out and says the, because people are like, what about this? What about this? They're like, we're not, that's it. We're done with this whole case, the prosecution, no more. it's done we're closing the books the case is closed the fight it's closed yeah we're no longer investigating anything in epstein it's closed okay so he said i did have filed another freedom of

information act these information acts takes six months three months for them to even say we just got it we'll be working on it in a few months three months later they start working on it they sent him a letter and said yeah we can't process your request because it's an ongoing investigation the case is still open talking about six months ago the director came out and said it was It was closed. Yeah. What are you talking about? Then he said he filed again.

They came back and they said, can't give you anything because it's a matter of national security. National security, it's a petto case. Yeah. How is that national security? Like, this is just bullshit. Yeah. So I don't know. So do you believe in the deep state?

I hate to be that guy. I don't want to be that guy. I kind of do. I kind of, I don't know, like, who are those people? Do you see them all the time? Is there like this sub-organization that we never see any of these guys? Or is it something like, is it something like there are people that come to you and do say, listen, I know you want to release the JFK files, but listen, if you release them,

here's what's in it. And here's what we believe the fallout from that will be. you'll be talking about Israel you'll be talking like you suddenly say these are are and some of the people that were involved are still around in Israel or are still or or let's say you know whatever the I don't know what the outcome is or the CIA was involved yeah and so we're afraid that the American people will be insist insist that we close the CIA well we dismantle it or that we put such controls on them they will be inept there'll be such oversight and such bureaucracy that the CIA will be able to basically won't be able to function, and you might as well close it.

It's just a bottomless bit of money, and it takes so long to get anything done, and there's so much oversight that there's no way for them to run a clandestine organization anymore. So it destroys our CIA, and we need the CIA. So then you're like, oh, so, you know, maybe that's what it is. Maybe it's not a separate organization, a sub-organization within the government. Maybe it's just, maybe these things don't come out simply because their fear is what is the fallout going to be if it does. And you think, oh, these people are dead. No, no, that's not the fear. The fear is it closes down organizations that we actually need.

So, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. What do you think? I mean, I definitely think there is. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I don't know to what extent, though, that.

That's where I'm kind of, I guess, Harry on. I have a buddy. His name's Ian Carroll. He just went on, like, Rogan fairly recently, and he was talking about the reason that Epstein doesn't, that list hasn't been released is because of the connection to Israel. So, you know, Trump has been making a big, you know, hub of how much money they're saving and by not giving to the Ukraine, but if you check and see how much they're giving to Israel, they're still funding the shit out of Israel war.

So there's got to be something there, and there's some reasoning why, and there's some connection to Israel, but I don't really know too much into it. And then, you know, if you look back at all of the different characters kind of throughout history, like the way the Federal Reserve is intertwined, like how that all was created, it was basically all these bankers came together, and then, you know, I think in reality, everything's kind of, I guess, manipulated by the money in the background. And so what makes a lot of money, it's just chaos in general. So like what made a bunch of money during 2020? Obviously the crisis, right? COVID or whatever it is, right? So that made all the pharmaceutical companies a bunch of money. War makes all of the arms companies a bunch of money.

And there's just a shit ton of money to be thrown around in all these different things. So I think if you can control the money, and you need some sort of, you know, boost in whatever it is, you just create some sort of chaos and putting it under the ruse of, oh, well, you know, they did something wrong, so we need to go attack them. And then it's all this manipulation between the media and everything else, right?

Kind of like what Cuomo was saying, where, you know, they would tell you you can say a certain thing. And if you can control the media, you can control the narrative, and then you have the ability to just print the money underneath it and just make money out of thin air, which is basically what they've been doing since we got off the gold standard.

It's been running a long time. Yep, since 1971. I mean, if you look back to, like, there's a great website called, like, WTF happened in 1971. You look at the obesity rate in the United States all of a sudden starts to spike. The autism rate for children starts to spike. Like, everything in this, like, since 1971,

just magically started to spike at that time. And it's people started making goods for a lot cheaper, you know, pumping us with, you know, whatever it is, pharmaceuticals, shots, all that to keep us sick. I think in reality, like everything is kind of manipulated based at the base layer of everything, which is just like the money, what we used to exchange things. And that's why, I mean, maybe I'm kind of hopeful that like RFK and Trump and these guys come in and change everything and I think like a reason they tried to kill Trump was because like they had a feeling that he was going to expose the deep state like do you really think that this 18 year old

kid was able to you know shoot him from that you know tower uh or not that tower but that rooftop and like avoid all that secret service well I believe that I do believe that he wasn't that far away of what I think is that he didn't do it by himself. Yeah, exactly. What I think is, and this is what's funny is, I've mentioned this once or twice, is that people, you know, oh, well, you know, he's this kid, he's, you know, he got help.

Like, but how do you find that kid? I don't think it's that difficult to find it. I think you go to the NSA and you say, listen, we need somebody, we need, doesn't even matter how old they are. We need somebody in, so Trump's going to be here,

here in the next six months in these four locations or these 15 locations we need people within a 20 mile radius that have gone on social media that have said negative things about him that also are active shooters that shoot regularly how many people are actively saying negative things that are within a 20 mile radius or 25 mile radius of these of these events okay boom we got 5 000 okay How many of them have that we can connect weapons to? Okay, boom, we're down to 150. How many of them have said violent things about Trump? Okay, bam, we're down to 25.

Okay, then how many of those people don't have a family, like meet the criteria of a lone wolf type thing? Boom, we're down to six. Okay, great. We're going to, all you have to do is take CIA agent to go to this guy and say, we looked at your posts, we saw what you said, We see that you were on the sniper rifle team in fucking high school or attempted to be on it, that you're an active shooter. We see that you go here to shoot.

We can see your credit card information for your dad. You guys shoot regularly. Her dad recently bought you a guy. All through social media into watching your stuff, NSA is going to know all that. They'll read everything on your phone. Yeah. And now you think, okay, well, and here's what really is telling is that you go to five of those guys and you convince them to all, like, we're going to, we're going to pave the way. for you to be on a roof and take this guy out.

Once you've taken him out, we'll make sure you can get away. You're going to get X amount of dollars, and we're going to, you're going to be a lone shooter that gets away. Nobody will know who you are, everything. You will leave. That'll be it. There'll be some random photographs of you at a distance, but they'll never be able to track you down.

Or maybe we're going to have you disappear and give you $10 million and relocate you to another place. Young kid, he thinks, yeah, I'm saving America. and so you get five of those guys you put them you put this one kid he happens to be the first one he goes on they put him on the fucking roof he takes his shot

they know immediately like oh we see somebody we see somebody we see somebody don't fire don't fire don't fire don't fire once he rips off a bunch of rounds boom boom boom boom boom the guy on his own the sniper shoots him he didn't get an order he says fuck that boom and shoots him I don't care what these guys are telling

me not to shoot him. Fuck it. Boom. Because if it was, if they had waited for him to say fire, he'd have gotten off a whole other clip. Yeah. He'd have definitely killed him.

Instead, this guy shoots him immediately without authorization. Okay. The kid's dead, which is fine because it was what they want anyway. They want them dead. Yeah. They just wanted Trump dead first. Then here's the odd thing.

What kid who's an activist who's given to the Democratic Party who clearly doesn't like, obviously has an issue with Trump, doesn't have any social media. Yeah. I know, that's a unique, they were scrubbed everything. They scrubbed his whole house. They scrubbed everything.

They scrub his social media. Everything, you can't get any of it. Yeah. Nobody, nobody, no kid says, I'm going to be an, I'm going to kill this person. Nobody commits that horrific of an act without first bitching and moaning and complaining to everybody he knows about this and goes nuts on social media. because that's the last result. That's not your first course of action is murder.

That does not. Nobody's first course of action. It's always they're upset. They go to rallies. They tell all their friends. Their friends are like, shut up about this. I don't want to hear this. All you do is talk about this.

They go on social media. They go on Facebook. They go on everything. He has none of that. He's none of it. How does that happen? Yeah. It's a buildup, right?

Exactly. So that's where I think it's the unique part of all or the unique set of circumstances that is kind of hairy with all that and that's why i believe in the deep state and then you know they also had another shooter who allegedly like tried to go kill him at uh at his golf course yeah yeah that was later but they didn't find him or whatever no no they found no yeah but i oh wait i'm sorry you're talking about the one where they did arrest the guy yeah they like arrested the guy but then like nothing really came out about those people you know what's funny you can't you you you the luigi guy we know everything about

Every post, every his manifesto, every post he's ever written, every single thing, all of his buddies, everything. But these two guys that tried to kill Trump, like, you don't hear anything about these guys. Yeah, and they're like, I don't know. One guy's dead. The other one, I didn't really hear him. Yeah, I didn't really even hear the other guy's name. I knew the other guy was like Thomas Crooks or something. Yeah, Crooks was the one guy.

The second guy is like an older guy who's kind of a crack pot. He's just a crackpot in general. yeah um yeah and i guess you're saying there's another potential shooter supposedly oh no this was i'm sorry this is something else it's funny this was the shooter for jfk supposedly because i interviewed a guy about jfk and he was talking about like supposedly like two weeks prior to that the secret service found out that there were two guys on the roof of a building just like scoping it out yeah with that we're planning on killing or shooting um Kennedy and And they scrapped the whole, you know, the little drive, right?

His little, they scrapped the whole thing. You never heard about that, you know? So it was like they scrapped the whole thing because they had found out that there was these guys and scrapped that. Then Dallas happens. Yeah. So. But yeah, I think, I don't know. I don't know.

I don't want to believe it. I don't want to believe that JFK was assassinated. I don't want to believe in UFOs. I don't want to believe there's all the lies that I've been heard throughout my whole life. I don't want to believe that the government was lie. to me. Well, the government does. I think they might have been, though.

Oh, that's the problem, right? I don't want to believe that they're listening to my phone messages. I don't want to believe that. Yeah. Obama said that wasn't true. He said that didn't happen. And then six months later, Snowden came out. I was like, no, I did this.

What's happened? Yeah. Well, I mean, I think that's the reality, right? It's like the government has been lying to us for a very long time. And then it's like now just because we have the, you know, spread of information like you know Instagram Twitter all these different things we see their lies and you know in 4k and then they come and you know we catch them red-handed and that's where I think short attention spans that we don't focus on two weeks later I don't I'm not

even thinking about what happened two weeks ago it's over now I'm thought thinking about the hot toa girl and how funny that is and I'm sending out you know 40 people in a day I'm sending out hot do a fucking songs too yeah well I don't even think about Nancy Pelosi and her $200 million in fucking insider trading. I know. Well, that's the thing, right? It's like I think before we had the government that their ability to manipulate everything was the media.

They can control the media, the newspapers, the TV, whatever. Now we have like independent journalists, you know, podcasts, whatever, where people can have these conversations with people and publish it to, you know, millions of people every single day and then you know that's not necessarily control i mean you know it was a better conversation than that that that trump thing by the way okay um uh i was i was going to mention that we we will i watched it was me actually my my wife started to watch it and then she just will be watching something i'm super into and all of a sudden she'll stand up and walk away and i don't see her again for an hour yeah we were we were watching this but we are not i was watching it you were tolerating it

Anyway, it was an unsolved mysteries. I'm going somewhere with this. Okay. Unsolved mysteries in 1982. Okay. No, that's not true. That's another date I was looking up. That would be, that was, that was Blade Runner.

No, this was 1989. In 1980, you don't know. When were you born? 94. Fuck. Motherfucker. in 1989 Unsolved Mysteries came out

Keep mind People don't even understand this Yeah Like people watching this right now Like 80% of the people watching this are like I don't understand what you're saying Matt Was it on YouTube?

No This was when we had three channels Yeah We had three major channels And we had one local channel Channel 44 And so on the three major channels So there was a program called

Unsolved Mystery and they did something on Roswell in 1947 there was a supposedly what the there was an accident and there was a UFO that crashed in a on a ranchers in a rancher's whatever cattle area and he went out and he found debris and he contacted the authorities now what later comes out is that there was a debris field and 27 miles away they find a ship. Okay. All he found was the debris field. Yeah. So either that skipped or there was an explosion and then it crashed and the debris was saying he calls the army, the military. How did you just call the military at this point? Well, this is back in 1947. You could probably pick up a call and you pick up one phone number

and he called them. Yeah. And Jennifer at the local military base answered and said, he said, hey, Jennifer, this is Jim. Down and, hey, farmer Jim. You're not going to believe that. I found some alien shit. Yeah. And she's like, what?

And so they send the army down there, and they get there, and they collect all the, all the, a bunch of the debris. And they bring it back to the military base and the, like the lieutenant or colonel or whoever was in charge at the time. puts out a press release we just found an alien craft we've got alien debris he's not thinking because you know he's one of these guys who grew up

and he's thinking you don't lie about these things you tell the media and the government doesn't lie and they wouldn't want they would want everyone to know like he's a do-to-do you know he doesn't have any fucking clue

this is there's no such thing as conspiracy theories back then nobody's trying to hide aliens so he makes a press release. The following day, so it's everywhere. The next day, it's everywhere, all over the wire.

The wire goes out, and it's in all newspapers saying, hey, alien crash, the military has possession of an alien, a crashed alien ship. They then, immediately he gets a phone call, and they put him on like a helicopter or a plane,

and they fly them someplace else, Oklahoma, wherever it is. Fly him someplace, he walks in with a bunch of debris. They bring a bunch of the debris with him. He walks in, the colonel walks in. He's like, yeah, and the colonel's like, oh, that's debris. Wow, that's amazing. Come on in here, and they walk into a conference room, and they talk for about 10 minutes. Tell me what happened.

He's like, oh, okay, okay, okay. He's like, okay, great. He said they walk back out, all the debris is gone. He said, and they go into another area. and they have a bunch of rubber of sorry like like um plasticy shiny plasticy stuff is actually a weather balloon okay a torn up weather balloon and they say here's what's going to happen you're going to pick up the debris we got a camera guy here we're going to take a bunch of photos it was a mistake what you saw was a weather balloon the description's close it was shiny material it was whatever that's what you saw and it's like It's not what I saw. He's like, that's what you saw. Yeah.

You're going to take pictures with it. We're going to put out a report. It was a mistake. And essentially, you're the fall guy who made a mistake. And we're covering all this up. They don't say cover up. But he sits in. There's photos of him holding up the, like, looking like, you could see he's like looking off film.

And he's like, he's surrounded by guys. He's taken, like, we'll take you out in the middle of nowhere and shoot you. You can't be fucking putting out press releases about crap. Yeah. aliens so the town folk later look days later it starts coming out that they see the military comes in and they go through the entire field inch by inch picking up every single piece of debris then the 27 then they find the craft 27 miles away and they bring in a like an 18 wheeler and they take it in a crane they put it on the 18 wheeler they're covered up in a big tart but

people in the town which they have to drive through see this huge thing they're telling them and like it's a down it's a it's a it's a it's a down uh you know airplane or it's a it's a experimental uh tank don't worry about it like and they're like it's there's clearly what they thought was a UFO or some kind of an odd ship of some kind it was it was covered up in a tart but it's not like they had a special made tarp like it barely fits on this fucking thing so they take that to wherever Oklahoma or some fucking place in area 51 and they start to it. They also found supposedly three bodies. Now, that's the whole thing that I watched when I was 18 years old. They just re-showed the whole thing on, they have Unsolved Mysteries. I watched it

yesterday where they went back to that episode and they talked about how that episode blew that story up. Prior to 1989, no one had ever taken it seriously. These, guys had written books these guys like there have been people that were a part of the whole thing that had written books that didn't sell that nobody would yeah they they literally would get phone calls they would call the radio stations and the news stations and say and the military we call they like don't cover this yeah when pilots would be flying commercial pilots fly and see something crazy it's a great if you ever watch um close encounters of the third kind it's it's great okay because this these two planes are flying

and they see something and they, like, call in to the tower. And more and more air traffic controllers are gathering around the mics and listening to what they're saying. They're like, oh, I'm telling you, it's crazy. I just saw this. And the other guy's like, and they're like, no, no, I'm, I'm two miles away from you. I saw it too. It's circled our plane. It was insane.

I'm never seeing it. And they're going on. They're like, oh. And so then suddenly they say, okay, so what you're saying is you saw an unidentified flying object. And they said, yeah, yeah, no, it's crazy. And they said, okay, would you like us to make an official? report and you just silence and then the guy police he's he's like do you want to go on record as like the guy's bosses here his supervisor's like get it's like do you want to go on record

and suddenly the guy's like um you know i'm not sure what i saw and the other guy's like you know it could have been a flash of lightning to be honest with you uh these are two pilots talking they're two miles away flying that just saw this thing uh You know what? All this sudden backtrack. I'm going to go ahead and, yeah, I don't know what that was to be on. And they backtrack completely, bro. Now, granted, it's a movie, but it's a great, because what's happened now is now that, like, the UFO things come out.

Fucking, there's all kinds of pilots coming out saying, I've been seen him for fucking 20 years. I've been seen him for 30 years. Why didn't you report it? You report it. You don't fly again. Yeah. I'm a fucking laughing stock. And that's when I grew up.

If you had told me you saw one of the. of my friends had told me something like that or some guy's father said that we would have mock that motherfucker to the point where he would have they would have wanted to move i mean it would have been because that's how stupid and silly it was for you to believe in UFOs yeah i don't know about you bro but i believe in UFOs and it's the same thing with like the jfk thing when jfk the movie came out like everybody was half the country was like yeah that seems crazy and half of them were like it's a fucking movie man it's not what happened yeah now i still don't believe the movie has it accurate, I still fucking believe, now I believe that it was probably much

worse than, than, I definitely think there were shooters, multiple shooters, but I don't know what, you know, I don't know the backstory between how they put it together, but I don't watch that video again or that movie again. It's a great bit. You've never watched it. Um, that's an amazing. Have you ever seen that? JFK? Oh my God, Oliver Stone did it. It's amazing. It's amazing. I mean, I believe it. Like I said, I believe in like the deep state and all this stuff. And it's just like where now we have the access to spread information, like our microphones a lot louder now so we can actually uncover some of these things. We have independent people that can't be silenced to a certain point.

But someone like me, my age being raised when I was raised, I find it absolutely, it's just so overwhelmingly difficult to even say that there was a deep, there's a deep state or that the government, they colluded to kill. Kennedy or like all of these conspiracy theories out there that they're true that it really bothers me like someone your age or Colby they very are very easy easy to jump into yeah absolutely absolutely where I'm you could lay it all out to me and I'd be like this can't be right why I just think because of my age and I'm programmed keep in mind I would have mocked you if you told me they were UFOs yeah 10 up to five or six years

I was in prison with a guy that believes in UFOs. Just saying that he believes in UFOs, I automatically puts him into the crazy category. Yeah. He's insane. And yet I'm watching programs from the Navy where they've got UFOs on the fucking screen. And I'm still thinking,

it can't be. It's campy. Can't be. You just, I think you just, you get older and you're genetically programmed to, you know, it'd be like being raised Catholic your entire life.

And then one day somebody, aliens come down and try and tell you, listen, there is no God, we planted you guys here. It would be almost inconceivable for you to convince that Catholic that there's no such thing as God. Yeah. Even though you're like,

the aliens came down, they land, you saw them, we explained, we got movies, we planted you here. It's evolution, it's, nah, it's something messed out right. You just, it's ingrained in you to feel that way. For me, at my age. So what's changed then?

I don't know that it's, because now the problem is one in your face with so much overwhelming evidence, it's still, I believe, so I believe that there has to be some kind of a, I don't know if it's a deep state, something's going on. And I believe in the, that there's UFOs. There's got to be, there's got to be something there. And I believe that, I believe that, I think that Kennedy was assassinated. And it's, it has to be something like, I think probably L.B. B.J. worked with the CIA to have somehow or another have

Kennedy assassinated. I don't know about all the Israeli contacts and this and that, and I don't know about all of that. Like, I don't know. If that came out later, okay, great. Then I'm wrong, and it was they were behind it. Or maybe it was the mob, or maybe it was the Cubans.

I don't know exactly. And this is the other thing. We talked about this in that video. I don't think that anybody involved in that would have allowed any of that information to continue to exist. If I was LBJ and I was involved, I would have hired one guy and said

for the next four fucking years, you are going through every single possible file and you were eliminating anything that can connect me to this. And that guy's like, you know, Stalin would purge people. Yeah. You crossed him and he'd have you killed

and you'd have your family sent it to Goulogs and then they had a team of guys that would go through all the records and eliminate any, your name on any document, any photos you were in, they scratch you out. Like, they eliminate you from existence. That's what you'd hire a guy full time just to get rid of that all for the next four years.

Then do you think there actually is the JFK files then? I think that whatever they release, I'm thinking it probably says nothing because whatever that true conspiracy is, I think that those documents just don't exist anymore. There's probably going to be nothing that can connect you. Then why not release them earlier? I don't know.

Yeah, I mean, maybe it's just to let, Like the conspiracy kind of live on? I don't know. Like, I mean... I can't imagine. Think about it if you were LB... If you were in charge of it and you had that kind of power, would you have anything? Would you be okay with, ah, we'll seal them?

Sealing them? Yeah. I don't know that that's sealed. I don't know that... Oh, we're going to keep them in the file in the FBI. You know that file room in the back? We'll just put a little thing on it. It says sealed until 2010.

It'll be fine. And I'd be like, I got a better idea. Let's take those fuckers out back and burn them in the burn barrel. Let's do that. Yeah. How about that? I mean, it is interesting, right? I mean, I agree with you.

I don't see it really making sense for them to keep it. But, I mean, at a certain extent, too, is like, well, with the Twitter files and stuff, why did they keep those as well? Yeah. But then Elon released them. So, I mean, it's to, it's like, I can see why Twitter maybe would keep those files. It's a company, right? Like, you can do that.

But with the government, like you're saying, if you are in charge of everything, why not just get rid of all the evidence? It seems like it'd be like, all right, I can make the perfect crime and just wipe my hands clean of all of it. Maybe there's too many people that are too buttoned up that don't want you to do that. But I feel like if you're the president or you're making these, you know, pulling these levers in the background like the deep state probably is, then you can just say burn it. yeah you would think right listen I want to say we'll see but we probably won't see

well I'm going to release a bunch they're going to release 80,000 documents and it's going to be a bunch of redacted bullshit and it's going to be the same shit you've heard over and over and over again and it's going to be interviews with people that didn't go anywhere

it's going to be conspiracy theories and a bunch of stuff and in the end you're going to be like we didn't really learn anything we just read documents It's all about the hype and the buildup. It seems like that's like that's kind of the new wave of all of this different, you know, stuff. I mean, like, Tucker Carlson had a guy on with, who is allegedly like Obama's male lover. Did you see that?

Like, I mean, so, like, I don't, it's like, all right, I don't know how much of that, I believe, but it's like. And I got a friend that they will swear to God, he will swear up and down that Michelle Obama is a man. Big Mike. Yeah. It's like, what are you doing? Like, you know. I mean, I think it is interesting, too. It's like, well, why don't you have any pictures of her pregnant?

I mean, you got to ask the question, dude. Why don't you have any of those? Never seen any of them. There are two kids running around them. Yeah. I just. But are they theirs? Who knows?

Oh, my God. Yeah, there's so much. It's like Pizza Gate. Like, they're running a, the Clintons are running a child pornography. out of the basement of a pizza store that doesn't actually have a basement. You know what I'm saying? Like there's just like there's such insanity that's out there. Yeah, I mean, the Clinton stuff is kind of interesting, though.

Yeah, there's like all these murders that are, you know, connected to them in some way. But let's be honest. I'm writing a book right now about Garth Brooks being a serial killer. I can tell you right now I can connect this dude to about 80 to 90 unsolved murders and about 120 missing persons. You know how many people he killed? Nobody. It's like he was playing at this arena and across the street,

a guy went missing. They found the body in the guy's vehicle, you know, five miles away. And if you do that, you show that enough and allude to the fact that it's possible that during Garth's morning walk, you do that enough and you do it enough over the course of 25 years of travel. You've got hundreds.

And it starts to become like, oh my, every once while there are some of these, some of these combinations between, or connections between him and people that you're like, there's one or two of them that I'm telling you,

if I told you the whole situation, you'd be like, get the fuck out of here. Yeah. Well, I mean, they're not as powerful. Like, Garth Brooks is not as powerful. as powerful as like a president though right i mean like the obama's like a long time i think it's

like chef or something like that he was writing a book about what it was like to work with the obamas and then all of a sudden before the book got released he used found drowned in their um like in their family's lake like behind their house people drowned see i mean that this is where you don't like to connect the dots you're just like you're just like nope nope show me some more evidence with all of this different stuff where i mean i guess i appreciate right it's a different uh instead of me just you know tin foil hat and everything but i think that you know the clinton's connection to the the the epstein stuff where it's like all right well what's really weird is like epstein had a photo or had a painting made of bill clinton dressed up and right yeah and like

like as a woman or something too right it's the weirdest fucking thing like to me that is just across the board. What are you doing? Yeah, it's weird. I get you're a weirdo, but you have the former President of the United States in a painting like, why would you do that? Yeah.

Like who does that? Who do you hire to do that? How do you even have the gall to call up a painter and say, I'm going to need you to paint a picture of this guy in drag, but I needed to be Bill Clinton? How do you even say that with the straight face? Yeah, it's weird. You're going to have to pay a print.

Have you seen it? Did you see it? Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. Right? Yeah, and then... It's insane. And then he got the guy to, like, I mean, the artist probably had to sign like some sort of NDA or like be quiet about it, right?

Right. So, I don't know. I think like all the connection to all these things is just there's too many things adding up with like powerful people to not think that there's a deep state, in my opinion. It's just funny. It's funny how, like, for me personally, it's like all the stuff just, I hear about oh wow And then I continue on

Like I don't even think about it twice Yeah Yeah yeah See some people It consumes their entire life No I mean yeah I think some people take it like too Far to an extreme

It's like all right Like what they're doing on a daily basis Is not necessarily going to affect you Yeah like I think like Like I'm sure Yeah I'm sure like these powerful people are corrupt I'm sure all these need are corrupt But I'm like eh

Like what am I going to do about it How do I get more views on this next YouTube video I have a friend named Chris Marrero Okay Every day Three or four times a day This is what I get from him

This is it Just like videos It's non Oh my god Oh no That's nothing That's nothing This will go on

I don't even respond to him I know look you see You see any responses to me Almost never Every once while I'll respond to him Yeah I never really pay attention to And almost everything by the way

is um of this stuff is alien stuff it's all aliens aliens deep state aliens everything look do you see what me responding to him at all that's ridiculous it's insanity i mean like the thing that's opened my eyes basically a lot to this deep state stuff is just looking into how the federal reserve is created on jekyll island and and kind of just diving into that and what looking at how much manipulation happens with the the money and that's basically why like all right i've realized the money is so manipulated that whenever there's a crisis you know like the iraqi war or something like that was just kind of created out thin air um and like all of these different big events that happened it's like okay well if you look

at like the way the financial situation was during that time it's like we just really needed more money for all of this so we'll print some money out of thin air with all this and this is how it kind of happens is people say that there's some sort of crisis. So that's why I, that's why I believe in the deep state. And I think that that's, and so the money and the media, like basically the, are the two levers. The media is the voice. The money is like, basically like the power in a sense. So what happens when Doge takes away all the grants and everything from the media? I think that, well, that's why I think like, I think when, now we'll be living in a different country. yeah well i think like for when trump came in in 2016 he didn't really know what was going on he was like

took a month to them to you know didn't have his cat like didn't think he was going to win yeah didn't have a cabinet didn't have anything set up took months before they even fucking realized like okay we're in control we don't really know what we're doing yeah and this time it didn't happen like yeah basically like he ran on drain the swamp in 2016 and he had no idea what he was doing so the swamp was still there and so he had four years to kind of sit on it afterwards like what would I do differently? And so now he's coming in with like full vengeance, essentially. I mean, I think that's why they tried to kill him because they knew like, hey, like,

when he comes in these next four years, we're not going to be able to control him as easily as we did before. He's out of control, bro. He's out of control right now. You think it's a good thing or no? I think that, unfortunately, I shouldn't say this, but yeah, I think it's a great thing. I love that it's upsetting everybody. I love, listen, I don't think until we're living in a utopia, I don't think we should give one fucking dollar to anybody else.

Not one fucking dollar. I'm not living in a utopia. I don't have free health care. I don't have fucking, I don't, I, I'm, I'm terrified that I'm going to have to retire someday on Social Security until we're living in an amazing, the most amazing, wealthiest country that has ever been created until that happens i wouldn't give a fucking dime to anybody else i agree with you know so i you know the tariffs things like i had no idea you tell me that canada's charging 219% on fucking on on on dairy goods and and and and 50% on

vehicles and 200% on this and to fuck you it's it's zeroed out exactly the same there's no terrorists or you guys could because you'll start death yeah i love it when the argument that they're making we don't need this we're out of your fucking mind yeah of course we'll cut off your energy cut it off we may be out of energy we may be out of electricity for four or five days but i promise you they'll re they will reroute those that electrical and those cities will have power again and then you'll never sell another dime of energy and if you do that and one american dies as a result of it i'll just carpet bomb your entire fucking country yeah because you You're not Americans, and I don't care.

If you're not an American, if I was like the President of the United States, I'm only concerned about when these are, well, we're worried about the rest of the world. Fucking rest of the world didn't elect me. The American people did. I'm only concerned about the American people. I'm not sending any money here, any money there. You know what kills me about Europe is that we're supplementing your military. We are your military.

Yeah. You have, you have, um, you have, um, The military that you have is window dressing. It's nothing. We have, we are, we are completely your, we're basically, we're your entire security apparatus. And so you don't spend, you're spending one percent, half a percent on your military. We're spending almost three and a half percent of our budget on our military.

And by the way, our budget is massive compared to yours. You're essentially spending for every, for every five, $500 we're spending, you're spending a couple bucks. Yeah. You know? So, and then what do you do with the rest of that extra money that you're not dumping into NATO and your military and all these things? You put it into social programs. And then when you get to have, um, 34 weeks off when you have a baby and you get free health care and you get to have two months a year off for vacation and we get no vacation.

We have no, you have a baby, tough shit. Get back to fucking work. When we don't have free health, we have none of that stuff, you mock us. Europe mocks the Americans for being savages and being stupid. Well, you have all of what you have because we're supplementing. You're able to spend all that money on your military, or that you should be spending on your military on these social programs that make you enlightened. And then once you become enlightened, you mock the very people.

that allow you to be enlightened. No, no, no. I mean, I'm sorry. I have no empathy for these people. I'd be brutal if I was present. That's why you can't let someone like me, you can't let a complete psychopath fucking be president. Like, I'd be brutal.

It'd be horrific. These guys are like, tariffs, fuck tariffs, let's go in. I say we go into Ottawa. Let's go, let's do this. Let's go into Mexico City. Let's fucking, I don't know what's happening with you guys. But I'm thinking, I don't know why we have these South American countries. They should just be states.

And listen, what's so funny is before Trump was saying states, when my wife and I would have discussions, I would say, when we were talking about Ukraine, me and Boziac were talking about Ukraine. You know what I said? I said, no, no, no, no. You go to Ukraine and you say, we got two options here. One, you guys work it out. You figure it out. Or we make you a state. Yeah.

And now Putin's invaded a state. And I'm going to put, I'm going to put, we're going to put bases all over the place in there. And if Putin says, what are you doing? We say, there's a state. We're switching it over to a state. So I'm not going to just give you money. I'll never get the money back. I'm not going to pump money into it for you to fight out a war.

I'll just make you a state. Puerto Rico, you're a state. Yeah. Or you're nothing. Mexico, you're a state or you're nothing. You want help? You're a state. It's pretty easy.

Yeah. I mean, that's where we're going. going to. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised. But I was saying that five years ago when we were having these discussions. I'm talking to Boziac. I'm saying, you know, and then somebody was, oh, that's colonization. I don't have a problem with colonization. I don't know about you, but all these other countries that were colonized that every, oh, it's horrible. Is it? I mean, that's what we're talking about, like a global society, right? If you want us to do

trade evenly with everybody around the world, then why do we have separate borders and countries? the U.S. should just take it all over that at a certain point, right? Right. I don't see this. Or, and if you're saying, no, fuck you, we don't want that. Okay, great. Well, then don't ask for us any money. Yeah, and I think that's the biggest issue, right?

It's like, we've just been handing out money like it's monopoly money, giving out free tokens here left and right. But you're handing out, like, my money. Like, I just got out of prison. I don't know about you. Bro, I never got a COVID check. At the end of the year, when I'm supposed to get $4,000 back or $3,000, you know what happens?

They take my money. Yeah. Like I pay in this year, like every year I pay in tens of thousands of dollars into the U.S. government and then they take it and they send it to Ukraine or they send it somewhere else. Well, I mean, everybody else is too. It's just the ruse under like, all right, you get your W-2 right and then you get your tax refund in reality. They just took out more money than they were supposed to.

But I mean, it's the whole system is just absolutely screwed. But I think we're, hopefully, we're draining the swamp in this next four years. and I agree with you. I love the rant, too. It was awesome. I appreciate it. Listen, the whole insider trading thing, all of that shit, like Republican or Democrat, to me,

if you enter public office and you're going to try and turn around and make a buck on it, that's a problem, bro. That's a problem. That's what I think is like, yeah, I mean, especially with the way that we've had all of these different kind of things come out, right? Like, you're lining out with the Doge, all of that. All of these different programs, whatever, you know, transitioning rats doing some stupid shit in Colombia. $12 million to send condoms to Rwanda or Nigeria.

Like, what are we doing? And these are all funded programs that, you know, get some sort of kickback to whatever politician it is. So if you really just follow the trails of all these money, it's all being manipulated in a sense where, you know, AOC has, you know, $100,000 a year salary or whatever it is. and she's a multi-millionaire. How does that happen? It doesn't make any sense. And it's been happening for years and years and years. And now we're finally starting to uncover all of it.

Well, what's funny is I don't even see that ever really gets uncovered because here's the thing. If I send $12 million to Nigeria and Nigeria funnels back, you know, $8 million to some, you know, some company that's owned by the nephew of some senator, then to me, when, you know, When the DOJ comes in and says, okay, Nigeria, we need to know where you sent that. Did you, you got $12 million? Did you reroute that money? And they go, we don't have to respond to you. Yeah.

Like, it's the perfect, it's the perfect scam because they're going to be like, we're not going to do that. Why would we do that? It's a perfect money washing technique, right? I mean, it's just like, I don't have to respond to your little. What did you send me a suspina? What the hell is this? I don't have to, I'm not, you want to know where that money went? Have you ever tried to send mail from the U.S. to another country?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I was... And it takes weeks, and it's super expensive. It doesn't even show up. Like, I got, I don't know, I ordered something I was in Columbia for the month of January. I ordered some glasses or sunglasses or something. Still haven't arrived allegedly. So I don't know what happened to that, but, I mean, that's how all of these things are, right?

Like, all right, you're mentoring Nigeria. You send a piece of mail, warrant, whatever it is there. The likelihood of it getting there is slim to none. Shrug it off. Yeah. Like, why would they even need to respond at that? point. Right. So. What are we doing? I didn't think this thing

was going to go fucking 45 minutes. Yeah, I know. The rant went way longer than anything else. We'll see. Maybe if the files aren't released, maybe this will be released tomorrow. If the files aren't, here's the you know what the real problem with Trump is? That he keeps making news.

And every time he comes out and makes news, nobody watches our videos. So this guy is dominating the span of time that people have to watch videos, he's cutting into that, which is cutting into our watch time. So our videos aren't getting as much watch time

because even I do it. I'm watching more news than ever, and I hate the news. Well, I mean, Trump gets views, right? So you've got to do stuff on Trump. I know. But then we alienate 25, about 30, 30 to 35% of our, of our, um, uh, I don't know, man. I think people hate watch videos on Trump as well as like love watch them.

Yeah, we haven't had great performance as far as anything to do with politics. Yeah, the politics stuff is tough unless you're like a straight politics channel and never really. We did something with, um, Pete, remember on the Biden, the video on Biden and the sex offenders and the whole, because he was like letting out sex offenders and stuff We did a fucking thing Did a video on the cartels And it gets hundreds of thousands Like 100,000 plus

What did you see Him sending all of those Venezuelan cartel members To El Salvador Did you even seen that? No They're like 230 of you know they've got that 40,000 that prison That one prison that holds 40,000 inmates

They sent 230 230 gang members that aren't U.S. citizens to be housed there. In El Salvador. Because listen, the way they treat the guys, the way they walk them around, you get there, they shave your head. You're walking around and short. And they have them like this basically, like with handcuffs. Right. So they walk them.

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basically flipped that whole country on its head because it was the most violent country in the world. Now it's one of the safest. Yeah. And I've been the past like three years and it's like. Wait, where they arrest? A hundred thousand? Yeah. And they basically like, they took the leaders and like gun them down.

and put it a video out of it and just said like, yeah, you try this shit. We're going to, we're going to fucking kill you. They built prisons that can handle 100,000 people. They've got a couple of prisons. They locked it. And they went around and they basically went around and looked. And anybody that looked like a gang member, boom, they just grabbed you. And we hold you in jail until eventually you go in front of a court.

And then we determine at that time whether we're going to let you out under what circumstances. And if they can prove that you have anything to do, with the gang, you may not be getting out. And right now they have them working off their time in factories, right? Did you see that? So you got these gang members. These guys are all tattooed up.

They're making fucking, they're making sweaters and shit, and they're terrified. Which is, listen, I'm sorry. You get to a point where you have to suspend human rights. You get to a point where that's the only way to take over a country is to be an absolute tyrant. And what's so funny about that is once that guy

cleans up the entire the entire country and it becomes livable and it's a decent place to live again and they start you know and then they start re-reimplementing basic standards of living in human rights and how you should treat someone they'll throw him out well that's just what happens so i mean like there's a guy he's like the head of the human rights foundation and he he hates niab bukele for the way that he's done it But it's like, all right, well, if you're going to, you know, have people that basically have zero regard for human right, right? I mean, these gang members are just kill people. They made the country unlivable. Like, basically ruin the country from the inside.

You got to just fight violence with violence at a certain point and just, like, put your hand down, right? I mean, and look what he's done. He's turned it all the way around where now El Salvador was the most violent country. And now it's like I was walking around there drunk at some points, feeling safer than I do. in some cities in America. You know what's interesting is like Winston Churchill. He's bitching and moaning about Germany for years. They're rebuilding their military.

They're doing this. They're doing that. They're doing this. They're invading here. They're invading there. They're doing like he's screaming. Like what are we doing? Like we have to stop them.

And everybody's, shut up, Winston. Sit out. Winston, you fat little. sit down, sit down. And finally, when they finally get to a point where they say, they realize like it's just overwhelming how bad things are getting with Nazi Germany. Now they're invading Poland. They're invading all these places.

Like supposedly we're at war with them. They're doing all these things. Finally, when it's really honestly too late, you could have stopped them way before this, they finally say, okay, we're going to vote in Churchill. Churchill fights tooth and nail for the next five years to help defeat with the Americans of course and the Soviets

to help defeat the Nazis and as soon as they declared the end of the war and they're at the point where we're about to start rebuilding they vote them out. We needed you to lead us to victory. but we don't need you anymore we're done with you we're done with you it was just it's just you know and that's why it's like you know people human beings are just really scumbags

I mean really like like this is the man that led you to victory and you couldn't let him lead you during the time during the time of peace even for a few years like he's an old man he did the right thing he used up his political power and energy on defeating the Nazis which he which he pled for you to stop for fucking years prior to this you treated him like a fool and the moment he proved he was the right way to go and led you to victory you throw him out on his ass like what a just a bunch of fucking scumbags bro i mean yeah i had a certain point like i mean you know yeah it's that's it's sad yeah it's sad that's just and that's just that's how the, um, the mob is.

And that's really what's ruling these, these countries is just the mob. So you do believe in the deep state. There we go. Full circle here. He just came out. He does believe in it. Because the mob is running it, right? I mean, call it what you want.

No, not the, the mob, deep state, whatever. I don't mean the mob, the mob. I mean the people, the society, the society as a mob. Okay. The majority, the great unwashed masses. There are you. That's the mob. this mob of unwashed masses, that's what's really running the country.

You know, it's whatever's in their best interest. You were in our best interest temporarily. But now we've got another party that's coming in, and they want to give us free health care, and they're going to give us welfare, and Winston Churchill didn't believe in any of that. He's like, pull yourself up by your bootstraps, but it's not time for us to start. We don't have an economy where we can start giving away stuff for free. We have to rebuild. They don't want to hear that.

That guy over there said he's going to give me free health care and he's going to give me food stamps and they should vote him in. I mean, that's what always happens though, right? I mean, I know people that voted for Biden because he said he was going to give like $10,000 off or, you know, forgive student loans or whatever it is. Of course that shit didn't happen.

Like, I mean, it's just like that's what politicians have run on for years and years and years. It's just now we have the, you know, like I said, the microphone. You know, people got checks. They got checks. And then, well, they canceled the loan forgiveness. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

They said it's not. So, so I go to, I go to college and run up $150,000 debt on something that I can never pay off. A liberal arts degree. Yeah, liberal arts degree. Yeah. Like, you're just a bad investment. And so then they pay it off.

But Jessman's $15,000 of her own money. Yeah, yeah. And because it's not a four-year degree, she happens that, have a degree or get a certificate as a marine mechanic she's got to pay her 15,000 which by the way makes a lot more money than your liberal arts degree but you get the 150 yeah 150,000 and she didn't get shit like come on man that's what are you doing I know it's ridiculous yeah I mean and you give that to like an 18 year old kid who has no idea what they're going to do for their life and have no concept of like money or anything like that

majority of these kids have been living under their parents' household for their whole life. Just one giant manipulation to keep you in debt for your entire life. I'm pretty sure people got access to the money. They got access to the money, and then they go back and say, well, they aren't forgiven. Because I remember, like, my brothers were talking. Like, they both got, like, oh, I could use this money. And they're both like, I'm going to wait until it's, like, confirmed. Right.

Yeah, but I did, because I paid all mine off. Like, right out of college, I spent the next year living with my parents and pretty much 90% of all my paychecks were just straight to student loans. You know, I had about $40,000 or $50,000 in student loan debt, even though my dad paid for most of college, I still took out like the $3,500 student loans that you could take out at about probably $40 or $50,000 worth. And I paid him down to about $30,000.

And the week before I took off on the run, I paid them off. That's good, because it'll follow you, right? You can't. Right, because I'd still owe that money. Not that it matter. They still owe $6 million. But I'm saying, I remember thinking, whew,

whew. Yeah, student loans are like an interesting, I don't know. The only thing that doesn't go away with bankruptcy, like it sticks to be forever. No federal, no federal debt does, by the way.

Like, I can't bankrupt the $6 million. I can't bankrupt it. Yeah. Otherwise, I would have left prison and bankrupted it immediately. Yeah. Yeah, I had 25, 20 to 25.

And I just worked. I didn't do anything other than just pay all my student loans for a whole year, so. Yeah, a system's corrupt. It's horrible. It's a horrible system. I know. And then now you basically need a job in order to do that, right? You need a college degree to get some sort of job like this, right?

That's a well-paying and everything along those lines. Well, at least that's what you're sold, right? I was going to say, yeah, I don't even know if that's the case anymore. I mean, me and my wife disagree, but I'm like, yeah, my kids aren't going to go to college unless they really, want to like they have very specific reason i'm like not that i'm not going to go to college but you don't have to go to college like if you're a doctor yeah i want you to have gone to college of course i feel like you need to go to college yeah yeah okay like a doctor a lawyer probably an accountant maybe one of these an engineer some of these specialties like okay

some of these degrees are ridiculous yeah like what do you if you're going to be a you know a liberal arts major like what are we doing like well i i don't even know why we offer some of these it's just silly and then the other problem is is like okay then you get to the point where okay the way that a school makes money is by taking in all these loans and getting all these you know federally funded people to come in and then you know they need more money to keep coming in to pay for their research for their professors to stay to be happy then you get more people doing masters and PhDs and then the masters and PhDs are just on bullshit like just study this thing and there

doesn't need to be a result of whatever research that you spent six years on but you get to say you have a PhD from XYZ University and say that and then it's just basically watered down all of our degrees. So what

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