Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Fitness Influencer Busted for Counterfeit Product

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:55 And more. That's how she does it with me, Karen Feinerman. wherever you get your podcast. I guess you can call my stepdad. He physically abused me and my brother when we were younger. I think those things were part of what led me to get into steroids maybe later in life. The physical abuse kind of made me, you know, feel like I wanted to get so big that, you know, no one could ever touch me again.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Maybe that was part of it. When I was in prison, I was thinking about that a lot that maybe I kind of built a shell around myself later, later in life. I just wanted to have that respect and size and that came with it. But I can get more into that after. after. But just petty cry as well, seeing when I was younger, stupid stuff, like breaking into liquor stores and stealing alcohol and selling them in school. What do you mean breaking into liquor stores? That seems like a, that doesn't seem like a petty crime. We'd go to this corner
Starting point is 00:01:45 store at nighttime, and I'd have a friend on each street watching. You could see all the cars coming in and out of the street. And I would just take a boulder and just fucking throw it right through the front window. And there was no alarms for some reason in this place. And sometimes there was later on and we would all just jump in there and just grab as much liquor as we can run to the train tracks run down the train tracks and get to our house and hold all the bottles and next day we'd go sell them all at school and shit just being little punks really when i think back of it you were just being little assholes but most of my childhood was petty crimes like that or stealing like we'd steal street bikes and mopeds and dirt bikes shit like that and sell them it was
Starting point is 00:02:24 at the root of it all it was just ways to get money and stuff we were just finding ways to get money We didn't have that much money at home. We wanted nice shoes. We wanted nice clothes. We did stupid things to get them that are pretty dumb. It was stuff we did as a kid. It was little things that led me up to the life of crying, really, like being comfortable breaking the law later in life.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Like I really never had no fear of getting arrested or going to jail. I didn't really feel that fear ever. Even when this happened, I didn't feel that fear. Like, after going through it all, like, it's something I don't want to. I go through again. Now I'm done with that life, but there was no fear from just commit so much crying for so long. I wasn't scared of the consequences, even when I had a lot to lose, which I did this time, and I lost a lot, but I'm better now. So, yeah, around 14, my mom, she moved us out of the city to a smaller town, and I still had friends in the city. So I was in this small town where
Starting point is 00:03:28 these guys, these kids couldn't really get, like, drugs and stuff, like weed mostly. So I'd go out to the smaller town, and I would just grab, like, quarter pounds of weed for, like, 200 bucks. And I bring them out, I mean, I go to the city and grab quarter pounds of wheat for 200 bucks. I'd bring them out to a small town. And just before school, I'd sit there at a table and just roll up, like, fucking 100 joints and go to school and just sell joints for five dollars. End up making, like, probably like six or 700, maybe more, off of what I paid 200 for. And that was a good hustle for a while. I was doing that probably 14, 15.
Starting point is 00:04:01 So I started getting arrested for weed. Here and there, getting pinched at school, getting caught with Joyce. You know, little kids telling on me and stuff. Around like age 17, I got pulled over and I had like four pounds of weed in the car. I got, I told you why I got assault and battery and a police officer, but I didn't actually assault the officer. I was just trying to get away from the scene. He grabbed me and they gave me an assault just for trying to get away. That four pounds of weed landed me in adult prison.
Starting point is 00:04:30 So I was in county jail, 17 years old for the first time. Being around a bunch of grown men and shit, it was different than juvenile lockout. When you get locked up and you're 17, and you said you were around a bunch of adult, like, or did they put you in like an adult facility? Yeah, yeah, I was in a, you're considered an adult in Massachusetts when you're 17. So yeah, I was in adult prison. Yep. Well, county jail.
Starting point is 00:04:55 You know, it's a bunch of guys coming in for assaulting batteries and batteries and domestics and DUIs and stuff like that. So it wasn't like state inmates or anything yet, but I got there. So I got out about 18. I got out from there. And three months later, four months later, I got busted for trafficking, which got me at five to seven. How did you get arrested?
Starting point is 00:05:19 So I was selling the weed at first, but I realized the Coke, you know, there was a lot more potential to make money. So I started going down the same thing going down to the shit. bringing the drugs back to the small town and making money. And so one time I went down a little early, and my guy was, he was running around doing something. He was like, just pick somewhere you want me to meet.
Starting point is 00:05:40 And I told him to go to a local Walgreens. And someone in this, someone in that area was selling stolen car stereos earlier that day with the same kind of vehicle as us. So, I mean, I didn't know that. I met him in the parking lot. I got out the car. I got in his car. I got in my car with a shoe box, with the shoe box between my legs.
Starting point is 00:06:01 He went into the store. Luckily, he got away. But, uh, so, uh, I see a regular car, like, blocking us off. And I was like, what the fuck is this? And all of a sudden I see a light flickering in the mirror. Like, God damn, they pulled me out the car, slam me on the hood. Like, what are you guys doing? You guys hear selling stolen car stereos?
Starting point is 00:06:18 We're like, no, no, we're not selling no stolen car stereos. Like, what's in that box right there? He could see the shoe box. Yeah, he asked if we were selling, Some song-part stereos, I said, no, he pulled out the drugs. What's crazy? Because the kid that was with me, I just asked him for a ride. He was only 18, too.
Starting point is 00:06:37 They were trying to give him the same time they were trying to give me, five to seven years. He ended up overdosing actually before. I don't know, I feel like maybe the sentence caused him to do it on purpose. I'm not sure, but he ended up overdosed him before. He had to go end up doing time. I was trying to get him out of it. I was telling my lawyers, everybody that, hey, this kid had nothing to do with it. He just gave me a ride down there.
Starting point is 00:07:01 But it didn't work out. He ended up dying. I got a five to seven. Oh, yeah, anyway, they pulled the coke out of the car. They were shocked. You could tell they were shocked. They looked at it. They were like, the fuck are these kids doing with this?
Starting point is 00:07:12 We were, like, in the city and stuff, too. We were, like, skinny little white kids fucking 18 years old with, like, quarter pound of coke in the car and shit. And you could tell they were shocked. They brought us down at the police station. immediately asking us if we'll cooperate and stuff, giving us cards, selling us if we get bailed out, we need to cooperate. I ended up bailing out,
Starting point is 00:07:34 but I had probation in that small town still for that charge for the pounds of weed and stuff. So I immediately took off. It went on the run. I went down to Florida and stuff. I was just jumping city to city in Florida for like a year, going to all these little spots. I had a fake ID at that point.
Starting point is 00:07:51 It was actually a freaking, somebody bought some coke off me, and they gave me, their little welfare like card with the ID on it. It looked like a, I mean, if you show that in other states back then, they just thought it was like an out-of-state ID. So I was using that to freaking rent hotels and shit. A young-ass kid, 18 years old, just jumping around Florida,
Starting point is 00:08:10 being a freaking maniac. So I ended up coming back. I ended up getting caught. I was about, I think I was gone for like eight months or six months, something like that. I went to state prison. How'd you get to? How did I get caught?
Starting point is 00:08:26 I came back. I was still trying to make money in that town, which I shouldn't have done. I was outside of the town. But this town has so many people that use drugs in it. And I knew that. And all these people knew me. And I was the guy that had the plug into the city with people that they could never deal with. So it's like I could get good stuff because I was from the city.
Starting point is 00:08:50 So these people are used to getting stuff out in this little town that's just like people stomp on it. and it's garbage and stuff. So I was able, anytime I came to that town with anything, I would sell out immediately. They wanted everything I had. So I knew this town was a good way to make more money. I had spent so much money down in Florida,
Starting point is 00:09:07 just doing stupid shit, going to strip clubs and fucking party in like an idiot. Didn't save shit. I came back up, I probably had like $4,000 left at the time. So I started grabbing more Coke and sending it out to that town. And the town is such a small town that people talk
Starting point is 00:09:23 and someone talked and said I was at a certain spot, and they ended up coming and raiding the spot, getting me, they ended up getting me there and brought me to Concord State Prison where I, actually I went to Worcester County and then Concord State Prison where I started my time. Like I was telling you before, mass state prisons is sweet.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Like, it's not even, it's not even nothing. It's like I was in the medium securities and you could just, you could sit there, you lay under your covers and watch TV all day and fucking eat junk food if you want to. There's like a million dollars. weight shack, like, there's like a track outside of baseball field, like softball fields. Like, there was, I mean, baseball field, softball field is the same thing.
Starting point is 00:10:03 But there's places you can play soccer. Like, it was sweet. It wasn't like, it wasn't, it was nothing. It sucked being in and not having, you know, female companion and being, I had a daughter at that time, too. I had a young daughter at that time. She was like eight months when I got arrested. It sucked being away from her and stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:21 But overall, my, I, um, my, um, A view of prison was that ain't shit, really, when I got out. You know, I got out when I was 25, and I got right back into doing stupid shit again. You know, I was doing stupid shit till about, probably 2014. I, you know, I saved up enough money. I started opening up some tannin salons and stuff, and I was doing some personal trade and stuff. But while I was in prison, when I was doing that state business, when I found, fitness. And I went in, I was kind of like skinny fat. I had like a belly with no arms.
Starting point is 00:10:59 And I started working out. And that's where I got like the passion for fitness. As a kid, I was always like fascinated with physique. Like not to say I'm gay, but like looking at like bigger dudes and stuff. Like I thought that was like a cool look. You know what I mean? And being in prison, you're around like men, like you see the respect that like a bigger person has. Like people, people look at that person. And they're like, you know, they think, twice or they move out of your way. I see that being in prison so young, so it kind of left like an impression on me.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And I always like, you know, I want to be big like that. I want to have that power to be big and stuff. So I got it to working out in prison and I'll send you some pictures and stuff. I got pictures of everything, like thousands of pictures of me when I came out of prison, pictures of me grow. You could see me like month by month getting bigger and bigger all the way. So I got out. I knew the whole time I was going to do steroids.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I just felt like, you know, I wasn't getting as big as other people, you know? I would take supplements and shit. I just really, when I think back of it, and maybe my diet wasn't 100%. Like now I can blow up like this and just on medical dose of testosterone on 250 pounds right now. But it's like back then, I don't know, I just feel like I was a real hard gainer. And I was like, you know what, fuck this? So I first found steroids on like forms and stuff looking on like, like chats, not like the, not like the dark web, but just like regular.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Like there'll be conversations and bodybuilding forms and stuff and people will jump in and just put little links on there. And the little links will say where to get it and stuff. So I would click those links and those links will just take me to where I could order steroids of shit. I found steroids on the on the internet and I ordered steroids. I remember I ordered them and nothing happened for like three weeks. I'm like, I'm thinking, fuck, man, this place fucking, they ripped me off. It was real high-end stuff, too. It was called alpha pharmaceuticals.
Starting point is 00:12:58 It was out of India. And there's like, there's little amps and shit. Nobody really gets these amps. And all the juice heads, they'll know what I'm talking about. They see those amps. They get, like, excited and shit. They're like, well, shit, the amps, they're hard to get. So I'm waiting, like, three weeks.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Nothing happens. One day I'm out. I'm checking my mailbox and stuff. And I see a package that says, you know, from, it's got, like, Indian writing on it. And you can tell us from India. Like right away I was like Oh shit
Starting point is 00:13:22 I just felt like a little sweat bead Go down my fucking head Just like Excitement just like completely took over me I fucking run upstairs As fast as I can Fucking Put open the door
Starting point is 00:13:33 Running the couch Rip the package open Dump it all out Fucking pull out my phone I'm sending videos Some of my bros and shit Like look at this shit Everybody's like
Starting point is 00:13:42 Sopong Where did you get that shit Huck me up Hook me up at the stores Like I ain't giving you guys shit It's like we put the phone down Just I'll just fucking around And stuff
Starting point is 00:13:49 but um so i started getting stuff online and i started getting that stuff which was like top of the line shit it was really made in like a real pharmacy and stuff this was like this was 2014-ish so actually this is this is actually when i got out so this was two this was 2010 i'm kind of fucking up the story like it's 2014 is why i was fucking around and i i ended up getting the tennis laws of 2014 or 2010 is when i started doing the steroids when i got out 2010. So I was doing these steroids, up to about 2014 is when I started getting the tanning salons and stuff. And, you know, being tan kind of went with the look of being jacked. So I was tanning all the time, promoting, promoting my tanning salons and stuff. When I first used steroids, yeah,
Starting point is 00:14:38 I put on probably about like 20, 30 pounds fast, like real fast. I'll send you pictures, like I said, you'll see the difference. And after that, I would do a little cycle on and off, on and off. Eventually I got to the point where I'll just stay on consistently. I would just stay on a little medical dose testosterone in between and then just blast every four weeks and then four weeks medical dose of, oh, blasts every eight weeks and then four weeks of like a medical dose testosterone and then blast a bunch of more hormones. Blast is just like another terror for just like jumping on a cycle.
Starting point is 00:15:08 They call it like blast and crews, blast and crews. So you'll blast a bunch of steroids and you know crews for like four weeks on a little medical dose. It's just a better way to retain more muscle and stuff. So around 2014, I found Instagram, really. I just wanted a place where I could like showcase, you know, how I was looking and find like, like-minded people. And I started like following bodybuilding accounts. And I created the Musclehead 320 account.
Starting point is 00:15:39 So that Hulu show that they did the story. They said, you know, I created the muscle head 320 because I was trying to reach 320 pounds of pure muscle. Like that story sounds good and all like I should just run with that story and keep saying that because it sounds good but really I was I was searching for I put muscle head and like 320 was available so I just clicked it I wasn't thinking the page was going to blow up so I used I used that muscle head 320 and on this page I just started like being like really open about like everything that I did like you didn't really see people in the industry that were like talking openly about steroids like they were like behind the scenes on the forms or or private chats. Like everybody was like, we call them fake natties where it's like they're fake natural athletes
Starting point is 00:16:23 where they're claiming natural but you could clearly tell they're on steroids and stuff. So my Instagram page, I started doing a whole bunch of stuff, really. I started posting openly about my steroids that I was using,
Starting point is 00:16:36 showing my progress. I showed myself receiving steroid packages right on there because it was like the Wild West of Instagram back then. Like they didn't even care what you posted. As always you weren't like putting price tag. on stuff. So I'd show myself, I'd show the little bottles, I'd show myself inject it. I'd be,
Starting point is 00:16:51 I'd be on a live, 100,000 people watching me live. I'm cooking a steak with a needle stick out of my shoulder and stuff, just doing fucking off the wall shit. It was like shock value. It got people to like go to the page because it was like so raw. People were like, this guy's a fucking lunatic, taking my kids toys and like making them like play with needles, just doing off the wall shit, taking food and like a hot dog wine. I'll send you pitches all this too. Hot dog buns with fucking needles in it with fucking pills, sprinkles. on it, just off the wall shit. Like, if people looked at my page,
Starting point is 00:17:20 they were thinking, this guy's a fucking lunatic. I guess I kind of was a lunatic for the stuff I was doing. So I had built up of following. You know, a lot of people were following the page. And we were also, those athletes that were claiming natural and stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:35 I used to put the, I'd put him on blast kind of back then. I was kind of an asshole. I'd be like, this guy's a fake natty, and I would put all the information out there, be like, because of this, that, that, put this whole reason of why he, I think he's a fake natural.
Starting point is 00:17:46 He'd get up. They get on my page, started talking shit. Other people will get on. It would just bring everybody to my page. So I just made the page blow up even more. So I just sat back and watched it blow up. So after a while, the comment sections on my page, it kind of became like a form itself. Like, it was just people all there like, hey, you know where I can get this?
Starting point is 00:18:04 You know where I can get this? And people are answering each other. Yeah, hey, you can get it at this site. That's a, like the whole Instagram just became like a form. It was insane. So after a little bit, people started, like, steroid company started hitting me up. they were like hey can you uh feature our products on your page we'd like to um we'd like to give you some free products and pay you and so i started doing it a little bit i started having them
Starting point is 00:18:30 send me products and i would have people try it out and if it was good i would do like a good post hey these guys are really good their stuff was great this person got this gains here's his photos here's how he looks or people would say something bad i would do like uh like i would like kind of destroy their product on the screen like i would take their bottle and be like here's my review on these guys smash it with a hammer or fucking throw in a fireplace and i leave a i leave a bad review and people will go on their page and start comment oh your shit's fucking your shit's soft your shit's trash and their page would come down like this like right away i kind of built up a reputation on instagram where like things like needed like my stamp of approval
Starting point is 00:19:08 like the muscle head stamp of approval now this is a different time on instagram it's not like that now it's way it's way different so social media kind of uh the crowd um the crowd that I had on social media. Anything I put out, like, they were just eased up. I had a guy wrote a steroids, how-to e-book. I made 100 grand in 45 days. It was like a 22-page book. It still sells now.
Starting point is 00:19:30 I still have the Shopify connected. It still makes money, but it was like right off the rip, fucking 100 grand, 45 days. And it started going after more after that. Then when I got arrested, it was really making sales. My whole bid I was making sales on it, which was pretty cool. It was able to make some money while I was locked up. So while I was on Instagram
Starting point is 00:19:49 I started talking to these suppliers like the people that were trying to get me to post them on my page and stuff and I was just picking their brains like little by little like finding out how like they do stuff like how they make it or one guy he was actually he's not around anymore but he had this lab Lucky Farm Labs he had told me how to get the IDs and stuff from China
Starting point is 00:20:13 like the fake IDs to pick up the order is Western Union and MoneyGram, which is how we did all the money. All the money came in through Western Union and MoneyGram. What do you mean? So you go, you can order fake ID, like fake Florida IDs with your picture, but somebody else's information on it. You could put whatever information you want on it. It doesn't even have to be legit.
Starting point is 00:20:33 You could just, you're really on the screen. It'll be like the ID itself. You drag your face over, with your face there, and then you fill out all the information height way. We were doing all Massachusetts IDs. what I was doing was I was Googling like vacant homes in Massachusetts and stuff. I was just using those addresses. So later I was doing that too with like the shipping.
Starting point is 00:20:53 So if anything ever got returned, it was going to like a vacant place where no would find the package. So we would, yeah, so the IDs were like $30. We would end up by probably like, well, later we ended up getting like 50 at a time, 50, 60 at a time because each ID you can pick up about, well, 15 grand Western Union and 15 grand money gram before they started asking you to bring. like a social security card and stuff. So what we would do is we'd cut them off at 12 each.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Once you hit around 12, we would just burn the ID and pull out another one. We had so many of them made that it didn't even matter. Sometimes 10, we would do 10 to 12. So, well, at first though, we just ordered like, you know, 10. This is, when I say we, I'm talking about one of my buddies I met in state prison. His name's Phil. He's still my buddy right now. So he lived out in about an hour from me.
Starting point is 00:21:41 We ended up opening up a salon, one of the salons together. And we were in legal business together. You know, he sold some steroids locally and stuff. So we came up with an idea, you know, let's get on my, I look at what I got going here on Instagram. We can make some steroids and make some money. So after picking all these guys' brains and going on the forms and reading like exactly how to make the stuff, we contacted the supplier in China.
Starting point is 00:22:08 And he sent us 100 grams of each hormone, which was like Trembalone, equipoise, testosterone, different testosterone. drones, mastrone, a few different other ones. I think we got, I think we got eight, 800 grams maybe or a thousand grams. I can't remember. So we went to his house, we got the whole setup. We got like one of those zip fucking, those zip up tent type things. We got all the gloves, alcohol, everything to make sure it was sterile and stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Some that took us, it took us like six hours to make like 100 bottles. I don't know why. It's just because we never did it before. Later on, there was something to the, Mostly he was cooking it later on because I was handing all the other shit. But it was something that he could do in like 45 minutes. So it was just our first time. So a kilo of testosterone at the time cost $400.
Starting point is 00:22:59 And he can make about $1,500 to, I think it's 5 to 800 bottles off of a kilo, I think it was. And each bottle, we were selling for $40 a piece. So the profit margin was fucking insane. That was just one kilo. We'd have like five or ten of them going. at once. But anyway, we started out with just a little bit. We made it all up at his house. And he had people locally that, you know, he was selling shit too. It was so ghetto looking. We had like the bottles. We put tape on it and we wrote like testosterone. E. Deca. It just looked like
Starting point is 00:23:32 cheesy as shit. So he started giving it out to all those people. He said, try this, try this. But he already had good steroids. And people are like, I don't want to try this shit. Look at it. It looks like shit. Like just try it. Just try it. So after about three weeks, his phone was blown up. They were like, we don't want that other shit. We don't want that other shit. We want the shit with a tape on the bottle. We want the fucked up looking shit. Give us that shit.
Starting point is 00:23:53 That shit's good. We're all getting big off of that. So as soon as he said that to me, it was like a fucking cash register went in my brain. I was like, oh, shit. I was like, we're about to do something big now. So Instagram daily, I'd have like a thousand messages of, hey, bro, who's steroids are you using? Where can I get steroids? It was nonstop.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Where can I get steroids? I was like, I don't know. know I don't sell steroids. The whole time in my head I was kind of was kind of like a buildup. Like it was like I'm going to just keep saying I don't sell steroids. I don't know. You can see people on my page that I'm tagging and stuff. I'm showing like brands and stuff. You can go to them but people don't know what brand am I using like and I would ever really would say. So we end I ended up making a separate Instagram account and I called it onyx clothing games. It's still up now. It's like the account still up. I can't I don't have access to it but it's still up.
Starting point is 00:24:46 crazy. So, um, I took these, I took blank t-shirts and I photoshop bottles of steroids onto the t-shirts. So Instagram would, Instagram would remove your stuff if you put like a price with it. So I'll put these t-shirts up and I would say, you know, I got testosterone tight-fitted t-shirts or trumbalone, trumbolone tank tops and shit. So then there's people in the comment section comment or like, uh, these testosterone t-shirts fit me so good. Like, it's all these, all these, these people were just like playing along with it. It's funny. So people would email me and stuff and ask me. They'd be like, yeah, I need two, I need two testosterone t-shirts, but we knew what it was. They were getting stuff. Yeah, I'm jumping a little bit to the future. Let me, let me say,
Starting point is 00:25:29 I built it up. I built up the Instagram. I built that Instagram up on the side. And I took a, I took a picture of one of the bottles that we got made. So we made, we made, we made, I'm still, I'm still jumping around a little bit. Okay, so we got the 100 grams. Everything was good. We ordered five kilos of each hormone, so 1,000 grams of each. We went to his house, we fucked, and we made it all. We got it all done. It took us like two, three days.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I kept going back and forth, get it done. I left his house where half of the products went to my house. Now, before all this, well, right after they said the stuff was good, I started, I got made some IDs from China, which I started out with just five IDs. It was just myself. So these IDs just had my face on it, random addresses and stuff. So I built up the Instagram account, the second Instagram account, and I took a picture of one of the bottles we had made,
Starting point is 00:26:30 and I photoshopped, I put it in my hand and I photoshopped that I blew it up to live like massive. And I did a picture of me flexing my bicep, which I think I have that picture. I could probably get that to you too, maybe. Picture of me flexing my bicep. And I said, I'm doing a review on these guys. I'm doing a personal review. to try this product myself and let you guys know how it is. So the other comment section was lit up.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Oh, he's actually going to use it. I just, I built it up so much to make it live like the best stuff of the world. I mean, it was actually good. It was good stuff. It's like it was trash or anything. But I,
Starting point is 00:27:00 you know, I put some marketing behind it to try to fucking really blow it up. So, everybody's waiting, waiting on the review. When's the review going to come back of this product? The meantime, I'm still posting my regular steroid stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Every post I do, like someone's in the comics, they say, hey, how's that on it? Hey, how's that on it stuff? Is that good? Is that good? Everybody just keeps asking and asking how that stuff is. So I'm building it.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I'm building it. The suspense to suspense. And then finally, I did a post. I was like, I'm not going to tag these guys on Instagram. I was like, I don't want to really be affiliated with them. But I was like, you can find them pretty easy on here. I was like, this is the best shit I ever did. I did a big review about how great it was and stuff. I mean, it wasn't really to like trick people.
Starting point is 00:27:41 It was like in case like the law was looking, which they were eventually. It was to kind of sell steroids under the radar, but not really under the radar. So then I logged into my Onix clothing gains account, and I commented on the Musclehead page and said, whatever you guys need, just hit me up right here. Boom, as soon as I hit that comment in the comment section, the Honest Clothing page has got shit loads of following requests. I started accepting them. As soon as you log in, you'll see an email at the top, and it'll tell you how to email me, So ahead of it.
Starting point is 00:28:18 They don't know it's me. No, they think it's this other company. They think it's the person that's supply me. Muscle had the steroids. So everybody's sending me messages, ask. But like I said before, I told you before, but as soon as I did that post, my phone rang, buzzed nonstop.
Starting point is 00:28:39 It was from that day forward, there was two years of, like email, emails, email, email, emails. No, that's tough. It's like, I grab the phone and be like, okay, I'm going to make $30,000, then put the phone down. I put the phone down. My girl would be fucking nagging me because I won't put the phone down. It'd be like four or five hours. Like, hold on, I just have to make this last fucking $5,000, and then I'll put the phone down. But that was later on. It started, it started out with just me doing everything. So my partner, he worked a full-time job. So when he got out of work, he would have to make the bottles.
Starting point is 00:29:14 and people would make the orders and I would go pick up the money myself with the IDs I would ship all the packages I would use USPS At first we were handwriting everything out Which is a fucking pain of the ass And you go inside there with these big boxes I have to go to like four or five different post office
Starting point is 00:29:32 And they have to scan each one And they keep telling you you know you can get click and ship You know you can get click and ship And I'm like yeah yeah I know I didn't want to put my info If you get click and ship you have to register on there With like your social security and you're I have to have an ID and an address.
Starting point is 00:29:46 So that's what we did at first. It was me doing everything. Later on, we did use Clickenship. I had a friend who was actually homeless and fucking, he was like, listen, just take care of me. He was a family friend. He was like, just take care of me, get me out the streets. He's like, you can use my ID,
Starting point is 00:30:03 you can use my identity and do whatever you want. I know what you got going on because he was a friend of the family so they knew what was going on. So he sold me his identification for like 3,000. So I used his stuff to get set up the click and ship, the fucking, he had a homeless shelter address. So like the card went there. We needed a Walmart prepaid card, which we would use to load the click and ship.
Starting point is 00:30:26 And we set up the click and ship that way, which was just easier for shipping. So you can just type it in. It just pops up. You walk in with a big crate, drop it off. Here you go. Walk out. It's easier than actually going in. But first it was just me doing everything.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Later on, we had to bring more people in because it started getting crazy, which was, so we brought in some of my co-defendants on the case. We brought in a couple of girls my buddy had on his end. We got to the point where it was probably about like $30 to $50,000 a week in orders, and they would receive 15% of everything they picked up. We had someone to receive the kilos. We had someone to receive the IDs. Towards the end, we had someone for everything.
Starting point is 00:31:10 We had someone making the IDs for people. We had my co-defendant Melissa on the case. She worked out of bank. She was helping us launder money. She was helping us do all kinds of shit. She was helping us do all kinds of stuff. She was making the ID. She had people to pick up kilos.
Starting point is 00:31:24 She had people to do it. She pretty much said a lot. So this is you going on Instagram, taking an order. Yeah. And then telling them to send the money, send the, you know, send $200 through, you know, Western Union to, you know, John Thomas. Yeah. And then you got a buddy who's got a fake ID
Starting point is 00:31:43 and the name John Thomas. So then he goes to Western Union and says, hey, I'm so I'm John Thomas. Here's my ID. I have $200 here. And then they'd give him $200 because you couldn't use. Obviously, you can't set up a normal business account to receive wires and stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Yeah. So how long does he get to use that ID? He gets to use it until it reaches, well, I said 15 grand of each, but we would cut it off at 12. So he could pick up to 12 grand at small orders. So he'd go pick up 250 at one place. We had a
Starting point is 00:32:14 250 minimum order. You had to spend 250. So he'd go to pick up 250 at one. He'll go to Walmart and grab it. He can go to another store and grab three orders at once. It could be like a $700 order or $200 order or $200 order. But as soon as it reaches around $15,000,
Starting point is 00:32:30 they start saying you need to come in with a social security card. Western Union wants you to show more proof or birth certificate. They want more stuff. So we would just cut it off at like 12 and not have to deal with that. Sometimes 10. Sometimes even at 12 they would ask. They'd be like, oh, we need a social security.
Starting point is 00:32:47 It's crazy because all you needed was the state. You need to have to say the destination. You just say the state and the amount of money and the name. And that was it. And you could pick up the money. Like as long as everything was spelled correctly, which was another fucking shit show later on, it's like, you got all these people trying to ship these packages out.
Starting point is 00:33:04 And then there's people spelling stuff wrong. So there's people that all these Western unions calling me. They're like, I can't pick this up because they're saying there's one letter off. So then I got to email the customer back. And I'm asking the customer, hey, you spelled it wrong. I got to wait for them while they're sitting at Western Union. It was just a fucking headache. Like every day it was nonstop, something.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I mean, the money was great. It controlled my whole life. It was me having to manage it like nonstop. And it was like, and people are so paranoid. They're going to get ripped off too. Like they're nonstopping the emails. Like, hey, bro, I said money. I sent money like three hours ago having her done and it's like it's like don't stop that you have to like go in there
Starting point is 00:33:41 reassure people like hey don't worry man like your money's gonna get picked up like you're not getting ripped out to worry I got you I got you have to like do that all day because people start freaking out people want their juice and shit they're like they're going crazy like people are like I got a show coming up I can't afford to lose my fucking you know I need to get that and like you have to like go in there and constantly reassure people which I was big on like I made sure everybody got their stuff and I made sure all the packages are out before three o'clock like That was my race every day. Because people, when you order steroids usually, you get it in like two, three weeks because you're ordering it from like China or wherever. I'm right here in the USA.
Starting point is 00:34:17 So they're ordering their package. And then two days later, a day later, it's showing up at their door. And you never really see a turnaround like that. And I'm doing the bottle so cheap, like $40 a bottle. So people are grabbing like 50 bottles for $40. And then they're going to the gym and selling them for like $60 or $80. And they're calling me two days later, hey, I need another 40 bottles or I need 80 bottles. So there was like people making money off of doing it.
Starting point is 00:34:39 So it was working. It worked out really good. Like people were actually coming right back immediately because the turn over time was so fast. And it was just spreading like everywhere. It was crazy. So first I started out with just, we had two shippers. I mean, I did it myself at first, but I got way too chaotic. Like I had a young son at the time too.
Starting point is 00:35:00 And I'm trying to freaking take care of my son. I'm trying to go to the gym and work out. And then it's like, it was just so much. It was too much. Too much as a handle. So I started bringing people in. I just told people that you can make 15%. I broke it all down and told them like the ins and outs of everything.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I was like it's just steroids. Even me, I was thinking it was just steroids. I wasn't thinking it was a big deal. I mean, it really wasn't a big deal. It's just the counterfeit shit that got us fucked up. So I didn't really get into that. So when we were making the steroids and stuff, I told my partner,
Starting point is 00:35:35 We got to make something look like, we got to make it look pharmaceutical. We've got to make it look high in. We don't want it to be looking like some bathtub brew stuff or like someone's making it in their basement. Even though we were making it in our basement. But, you know, we were making it clean. It was clean stuff. And it was good stuff. And no one ever got any infections or anything like that off of it.
Starting point is 00:35:54 So I said, we got to make it look good. We've got to make it look pharmaceutical. So I was telling my buddy, we got to make it look pharmaceutical. I sent them the little picture of the snake with the sword. And I said, you know, it looked like it comes from. like a pharmacy. Right. My partner, you know, I used to bust his balls about this all the time
Starting point is 00:36:11 about we were in prison together too. Like if he complained about anything, they'd be like, damn, man, fucking, this food sucks. I'd be like, yeah, you know where the food doesn't suck? Home if he didn't use that fucking label. So he ended up Googling the pharmaceutical company is no longer in use. I'm pretty sure that's what he did.
Starting point is 00:36:28 And he's seen Onyx Pharmaceuticals, which was bought out by a bigger company, and they were no longer being used. So, you know, he just, he just, he sent that photo to China and China printed out the labels. It was like three cents for a label, each label. When we got all the labels made with this, this holographic aerosum, I'll send you some pictures of it too. Onyx pharmaceutical boxes and stuff. We got little boxes made, little labels.
Starting point is 00:36:55 So come to find out, there's a real onyx pharmaceuticals in California. I didn't find out probably to like six months later after a cell and somebody messaged me. It was like, hey, are you guys the onyx pharmaceuticals? from California. And I was like, no. And I looked into it and seen that there's actually an onyx farmer or suitable out of California. But you see fake shit like that all the time.
Starting point is 00:37:14 And I looked into it. I seen their cancer medication company. So they weren't selling steroids. It was a cancer medication company that was selling cancer medication. So little did I know that when I did that first post with that bottle, Photoshop in my hand and said, I'm going to try this out.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Immediately my followers started Googling. Where can we find this? onyx pharmaceuticals and they came across the onyx farmer suitable in california so their inbox got flooded with messages like hey we're trying to buy anabolic steroids from you guys and they're like we don't sell anabolic steroids what the fuck are you talking about so somebody i don't know some of the followers was like oh well this guy's posted it here on this instagram page right here look he's he's selling your product so they were they looked at they're like oh okay so they hired a private investigator and a private investigator started uh you know piecing everything together finding out
Starting point is 00:38:08 where i live um he pretty much put everything together and handed it to the feds like a present with a bow on it he did control buys he uh yeah he did two control buys on us he saw he somehow located where i lived which we had we used stuff on there like to block our location but i don't know Maybe somehow he got a blip on the IP. I don't know. So he handed it over to the feds. That was the main thing that got me the 10 years. It wasn't the steroid itself.
Starting point is 00:38:38 So they built the fraud chart, and they looked at the fraud chart. You know, my lawyer tried to fight it. He tried to say, these guys, they charged me as I was, as if I was stealing sales from onics pharmaceuticals. Like their cancer medication people were coming to buy my steroids and I was taking away from them.
Starting point is 00:39:00 So they built the chart. They said a certain amount of million. Every million is like a certain amount of years. The million, the millions amount that I made came out to fucking 120 months. So, so wait a minute. Wait a minute. Let's go back. So the private investigator hands over a dossier on you to the FBI. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Where they just, they just take this guy's word for it. They drive straight to your house and knock on the door? I mean, how did that, did they watch you for a while? did they yeah yeah so they they set up surveillance they put uh well first first the agent this is what i learned later after seeing like the ulu documentary and reading stuff heard in the boston magazine or whatever so she uh she went on my instagram when she said she was blown away she was like she was baffled you couldn't believe that i was out some guy was out and open just posting steroids like that i mean people didn't people if you weren't in the steroid like seen you wouldn't
Starting point is 00:39:53 have seen that but it was normal for people that were like bodybuilder using steroids Like Sarah was just open on social media like, hey, I got this shit. Like that's just how it was. But for someone who was like a regular citizen for her to log in and see that. And then she's seeing those logos on top of it. So she was ice. Like I think I told you that ICE also does like copyright stuff too. So she was part of like this head investigator or whatever she was on ice.
Starting point is 00:40:17 So she's seen that what I was doing. And yeah, she she, she, she, uh, they set up cameras around my neighborhood, which there was nothing coming to really in it. out of my house. At that point, there was nothing going on for all I was doing was doing it all from the phone. There would be people dropped me off cash and stuff, but that was about it. So they set up cameras, they put tracking devices on all of our vehicles, my code offense, vehicles, my vehicles. They were going through our trash. Like, they built the case. They already had the case tied up, but they built it for another year on top of that. So two years, they said
Starting point is 00:40:53 they were watching us for two years, but I think the private investigator was the first year. The Fed's getting involved the year after that, I believe. So really towards the end, I was pretty much, I was about to buy a house out of Florida. I was about to move down in Florida. I think I told you they got like a heads up and stuff of like, we got kind of like a heads up that we were being investigated. So someone that got pinched with a fake ID was going to court and stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:20 And one of the prosecutors at the courthouse said something like, oh, there's an ongoing investigation around this. person, people have been picking up lots of money. So when that happened, we just kind of like shut everything down and started deleting shit. And like two days later, I ended up getting raided and stuff. How did you qualify to buy a house in Florida? Oh, so I was doing a lot of, I paid taxes for the last two, right, two, three years. I had the tannin salons and stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:47 But we started laundering, I started laundering money too. I started laundering a lot of money through all different ways, you know, the casino, tanning salons. I had a personal training business account. I was making money too, like that e-book. You know, I made that fucking 100 grand real quick. I had that in the account and stuff. How else was I making money?
Starting point is 00:42:08 Yeah, just there was a lot of money laundering going on. And like I did supplement stuff too. Like I knew how to get supplements manufactured. I would like get a fucking pre-workout and cost like $4 to manufacture. And I'd buy like a whole like 5,000 of them and then post it would sell them to like $20, $30. So there was clean money and dirty money coming into the account. But what's crazy is like when the feds come, it's like if any clean money, even the accounts that I had that were completely clean, run time of transfer went into a dirty account. And I did it on accident and I pulled it out and put it back.
Starting point is 00:42:43 And they said, oh, just because that money touched that dirty account that, you know, it's all dirty. And I had a house already before for it. I had a $650,000 house I lived in or driving freaking Mercedes and escalades, fucking money that I could have really used now. And I'm thinking back then. I was just acting like a freaking idiot. Just by every year we get a new escalade and stuff. It was just being stupid. Just being, you know, there was so much money coming in.
Starting point is 00:43:09 It didn't matter. Go to like the casino, put like 30 grand on the red on the roulette table. I lost it. Like, eh, you know, fuck it. I'll just make that. I'll get on my phone and make that back right now. Or usually I would just drive down or lose 30. that's 60
Starting point is 00:43:24 that 120 get my money back maybe make a little get the fuck out of there but most of the time the casino wins anyway so that's always a fucking crap shoot
Starting point is 00:43:33 especially when you're betting like big and roulette and stuff but uh yeah so the house in Florida I got pictures of the house in Florida too and I got pictures of everything I could sell you all these pictures so you can add it if you want
Starting point is 00:43:44 but yeah the place in Florida was like a fucking mansion it was crazy it was like there was another $600,000 house I had put a four sales sign on my house and the agents knew that we pretty much knew that we were spooked
Starting point is 00:43:57 and they came and they fucking you know they didn't come I think I told you about so when we tell you the day like the raid kind of get into that story? Yeah, what happened like okay so it was 6.30 in the morning I got up and
Starting point is 00:44:15 I could just tell something that was off like the birds weren't chirping anymore the air was just super still I was like man something something's not right so i jumped up then i started to go towards the window before i could even get to the window i just boom boom boom it was you know they were banging on the door i was like fuck so i was in my boxers and shit i didn't even get dressed my girl was in bed sleeping my two young kids were in the other room my girl's eyes popped open like i knew right away what it was so i get i get to get to the stairs and i look all the agents it's like glass window
Starting point is 00:44:49 like glass windows in the front of my house all the agents are pointing their rifles through the window and stuff. Like, we got one coming down. I open a door. I'm like, I'm like, what the fuck? I was like, all this for some fucking steroids. Are you serious? And I was in like a rich neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:45:02 And these ladies were like grabbing their fucking little poodles in their purses and just like shaking their heads at me. Like, I was the biggest piece of shit ever like, I looked at this scumbag, getting arrested. I just felt like yelling, hey, it's fucking steroid. It's not that serious. Like, I'm not a fucking terrorist. But they probably thought I was a terrorist.
Starting point is 00:45:19 And then I open the door and I'm just fucking, I'm in my box. I'm all fucking jacked and tan and it just looked crazy. They just cuffed me up and fucking they brought us all downtown. They freaking arrested everybody. Arrested my kid's mother for no reason. Arrested all my coat of fed ends. There was six of us that got arrested, really.
Starting point is 00:45:39 We were arrested for money laundering. We're arrested for copyright infringement. We're arrested for trafficking drugs, trafficking a counterfeit drug. and then there was enhancements they gave a leadership role enhancement which is if you tell five or more people under you what to do you get a leadership role enhancement and there's two different ones there's a two point and a four point and for some reason i got the four point one which is the one they give to like terrorists for telling people to do shit i'm still blown away by all this like i'm still thinking it's just steroids until i get into court and so i had i had a lawyer
Starting point is 00:46:15 already all set up if something happened you know he could he'll probably get on this podcast too he likes the social stuff if you ever want to talk to him i could get him on here talking he'll jump right on and i talk to him all the time um so yeah he's a good lawyer's name's rick collins he's uh he's mostly a steroid attorney and stuff but he's real smart he's been a lot of shows and stuff he knows a lot of stuff so i had him on standby if something was going to happen someone was going to come pay him the cash and he was going to be my lawyer so that's what happened he got paid cash. Luckily, I had a bank account too that they weren't able to seize right away. I was able to pay him the rest of the money out of that bank account to retain the lawyer. And I was also able to,
Starting point is 00:46:54 they gave a bail to my child's mother. We just had a baby. The baby was three weeks old. They gave her a $50,000 bail. I was able to bail her out. Luckily, they seized that money later, obviously, but they weren't able to seize that account at Ferris, which was great. So, yeah, so I was still thinking it was just a regular steroid case. That wasn't the copyright stuff that when they said it, I was like, yeah, I mean, I didn't think it was a big deal. I thought I was going to do like maybe four years, five years, most. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:23 But when they charged me like, like if someone took a Gucci purse and put a Gucci logo on it and sold it as Gucci, but I didn't do that. I took steroids and put a cancer medication logo on there and sold it as steroids. I wasn't selling it as fucking cancer medication, which my lawyer was trying to fight. And the company didn't lose any money because you weren't duplicating their product. You were duplicating a product that they don't even, or you were, you were using their, their labels on a product that they don't sell. So they didn't lose any money.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Yeah. See, the main reason that, like, that looked good. Like, if somebody Googled my steroids, they were like, oh, it's coming from a pharmacy. So I think, you know, that's probably, it added legitimate to, to the product. So, but still, they didn't take a loss. sale like you said they didn't take a loss like we didn't take no sales especially because they weren't even using that logo anymore so they didn't lose nothing but they took the chart and said we took this amount of sales from their company they got up to in the courtroom like at my sentence and
Starting point is 00:48:27 it was like fucking like i was being like i was the biggest piece like he got up like he ruined the reputation of thousands of people's hard work now anytime you google onics pharmaceuticals all you see is this unhealthy stuff that we don't deal with, we don't deal with. And this is the bigger company that bought out on extramid multiples. They got up there saying that I ruined the reputation of millions of people's hard work and I'll listen. I'm sure that came into play with the judge when he sentenced me to the 120 months. My lawyer was thinking I was going to get 60 months too at first until like the copyright stuff chart was built. And then he's like, I'm thinking maybe seven, maybe eight. He's like the prosecutors are asking for like 130, I think. It,
Starting point is 00:49:10 we went in still asking for 60 months, hopefully maybe, I was hoping the judges see it as a steroid case and be like, yeah, this is bullshit. You didn't, he didn't copyright and fringe. He didn't steal any sales from there. That's what I was hoping. So we went in with an open plea, leaving it in the judge's hands pretty much. And it didn't really work out in my favor. They gave me fucking double of what I asked for $120,000.
Starting point is 00:49:30 I couldn't believe it. It felt like a fucking dream when he said it, it felt like, you know, when you hear somebody dies, you kind of get that sinky feeling inside. It was like that feel like that sinky fucking. trance, dream-like feeling. Like, I remember just everything's like a blur going back to my cell that night, just sitting there looking at the ceiling, like, I really just
Starting point is 00:49:48 get 120 months for fucking steroids. Are you fucking serious? A hundred and two? I couldn't believe it. It didn't, for like a year, I couldn't believe it. Like, finally kicked in like a year later. I was like, yeah, I'm doing fucking 120 months. Wow, this is real. This is really happened. I couldn't believe it.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Yeah, I started my bid in Fort Dix. I don't know if he, you ever heard of Ford D. He probably heard of Fort Dix. Yeah. I only lasted there about six months. I did an interview that went public. It was just my voice, but I did it over a cell phone, and he sent me to a medium, and I was fucking, no stupid media ever since. Fort Dix is, is that a low or a camp? Yeah, it's a low. So I started on a low because my points were low. Somehow, I don't know how maybe, I don't know, my points were low, and I lasted a day at like six months. I did an interview. It's Guy Johnny Bravo. It was my voice, and it didn't. It was my voice, and it didn't. ended up uh they ended up getting me out of there they said i did an interview over a cell phone they charged me using a hazardous tool they didn't find the cell phone or nothing but they got me
Starting point is 00:50:49 out of there and i ended up uh in medium security and i fucking did all my bid the whole bit in medium security which sucked what happened to your kid's mom all right she really doesn't want me to mention her much in this she doesn't she doesn't she hates anything to do with this shit i'll talk i'll talk a little bit about it fuck so uh so she ended up getting, they pulled her in because a vehicle that was registered under her name, which is one of the escalades. They seen a GPS meet the shipper and money was handed to one of the shippers for shipping products. So that was one way they pulled her in. They said, okay, a vehicle registered in your name met somebody, so it must have been you, right? So another way
Starting point is 00:51:35 they pulled her in was they said the internet bill was in her name. I don't know that. Yeah, that's how that's another way they pulled her in. And the third way they pulled her in, which this one was probably the one that actually got her was. So her sister was my co-defendant too. Her sister was picking up money and stuff. And my phone had died one time. And her sister was messaging me trying to get someone spelled the name wrong.
Starting point is 00:52:00 And she was trying to get the information to me like, hey, this person spelled the name wrong. So she texted her sister, which was my, my girl. And she said, hey, can you give me this information? So my girl gave them the information. Then my girl said, yeah, it's for this amount of money. So just by her saying that, it put her in it and making it look like she was involved in it. So they said that she was handling money. They said a whole bunch of stuff she wasn't really doing it.
Starting point is 00:52:24 And we had a fucking three-week-old son. And we have another son, too. And at the time, my other son was four. And my newborn was three weeks old. And they gave her, I mean, by the time, they let her bail out for about a year. After about a year, they gave her a year, year in prison, which is, which is bullshit. And my son's fucking, by that time, my son's five and the other one, and I'm already doing 10 years. Like, you got to lock up a girl, but, you know, that's, you know how that's how the feds are.
Starting point is 00:52:54 They come and they come hard. They'll lock up your grandmother, they'll hold your grandmother hostage. They'll lock up everybody. They just don't fuck around. That's why, like, I'm just, I'm done with committing crime. I can't afford to, or imagine having to go back through that shit again. after all of those living conditions and the COVID. When COVID hit prison, it was like,
Starting point is 00:53:12 okay, guys, we're going to send you to yourselves for a little bit. We're going to let you out tomorrow. We're in the cell for eight months straight, getting bologna sandwiches three times a day. All our events are intertwined. So every time an officer brings in a new strand of COVID, the whole block has it over and over. So we're just sitting on our cell for eight months getting sick over and over.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Every three days, they let us out for like 15-minute showers, can't touch the phones, can't touch the computer. is you're sending out mail but no one wants to touch your mail because they're afraid you're going to give them COVID but they're all acting like we are the carriers of COVID when it's like it's coming in the streets we're stuck in the cell so that whole COVID process scared the criminal out of me too I was like wow that prison hasn't been the same since then prison's fucked up the camps the lows everything is fucked completely shit so if you commit a crime now and you go into the feds it's horrible like it's horrible time it's it's so much better in the railroad it's not
Starting point is 00:54:07 it worth risking anything in going back to the feds no matter what like i'd rather fucking be homeless and fucking living on the side of the road before going back to that that lifestyle i couldn't i couldn't imagine it's it's mentally damaging it's fucking physically damaging yeah that was another thing too i went to prison i'm 260 pound uh shredded you know what i mean and i get arrested and if you've been on i was on steroids for seven years straight so my name natural production of testosterone and was gone. My body's not producing testosterone anymore.
Starting point is 00:54:44 So I'm in a cell and I'm just fucking withering away to nothing. Like I fucking, I lost probably like 50 pounds within like 45 days. I was walking down the tier and there was an officer at the desk and he's looking at his computer
Starting point is 00:55:01 and he's looking at his computer, looking at me, looking at his computer. He's like, hey, my mom, come here. So I come over. he spins the desk around and it's a picture of me like at muscle beach and stuff in california he's like is this you right here i'm like yeah he's like man what the fuck happened to you i was like you try to come in here and living like this and eat no food no weights i was like being on all these hormones and crashing i was like there's no way to maintain this size my lawyer was fighting the whole time for me to just get a medical dose testosterone my
Starting point is 00:55:29 whole bid the bop was like no fuck you fuck you we don't care like they took my blood work it shows that my body is not making testosterone they're still like no It's it we're not, it's a cosmetic thing. I'm like, how is it cosmetic? It's, it's a medical thing. My body is not making it. Right. And when I got out of prison, I was like super skinny fat.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Like now I look, I've been on TRT for about two months now, which is good. And, you know, I was able to get that at the halfway house. And my body bounced back pretty quickly. But there was a, there was a period of time where you're, when your body's not making testosterone, you're not even like a man. You're fucking. you feel like a girl you're fucking emotional
Starting point is 00:56:08 everything's going on my fucking house my bank accounts being seized my kids are trying to take my kids away they're fucking they're locking my girl up I'm losing all this muscle I remember you know I've never ever thought about
Starting point is 00:56:23 my life until this happened and I'm sitting in my bed and I'm just looking at this razor on my desk and I'm like all this pain that I'm feeling right now I could easily just take that razor one slice and it's gone I'll bleed it all out. Like, I've never, ever felt like that.
Starting point is 00:56:38 And my fucking hormones are so out of whack and everything going on top of that. And it's like, like, the feds don't care. Like, they have no regard for, or thinking about stuff like that. Like, they don't think about none of that shit. It's like, they just think about the money. Like, we're going to come in this fucking dude's house. He's got all kinds of money. We're going to take his fucking money.
Starting point is 00:56:55 We're going to take his cars. And they don't think about, like, ripping families apart and fucking, the stuff that people have to go through. But they look at it as like, oh, well, you're a criminal. You deserve that. up and like that shit's pretty harsh the shit that they do is hard i mean maybe it took that to fucking scare me straight because i definitely won't commit any more crimes but it was a it was a hard time like that was the only time i ever i ever contemplated something and i don't ever want to go through that shit again that shit was rough um so how much did you get you got
Starting point is 00:57:28 halfway house yeah i got 10 months halfway house at the end i ended up doing seven a little bit about a little bit over seven like seven years two months or something but i got 10 much take about that no i ended up getting the fsa yeah i was just i was just i kovc covid kind of shut it covick down didn't it yeah it backed it up to the point where i wasn't able to reap the benefits from it like my co-defendant he was able so that i don't know if you know about the new law the first step act law where you get a year after sentence if you're a non-violent offender and you're stay out of trouble that it's always you you've got to meet this criteria so a lot of people were getting i actually got it my co-defendant got it too but he was able to actually
Starting point is 00:58:09 do the do the uh ardap and get the year off so he was able to make get all the benefits from all of it i wasn't able i wasn't able to reap all those benefits because the the the covid he had slowed up ardap so much that it came time to it was like okay you can do you can do you can do ardap or just take your fSA year and go home like obviously i'm going to take the fsa but they were like but you could you could really use it i'm like i'm in here for fucking steroids i don't I didn't have any narcotic issues or anything. I used steroids. I upplayed that a little bit so I could get into ARDAP.
Starting point is 00:58:41 You know, I told them, I'm shooting fucking five bottles of testosterone a day, and my liver is about to shut down. That was just, you know, to try to get into ARAP so I could get that year off. If I didn't need to do it, like, I've seen guys doing it. That shit's a art program. Like, you got to do a lot of shit. I hold people accountable and stuff. And I was in medium securities and stuff, and it's like,
Starting point is 00:59:02 you pretty much got to tell on people. like hey this guy didn't tuck his he didn't tuck his shirt in ridiculous it's so bad everybody gets on the microphone I saw a guy get this is like a guy who was up he was in there for fucking like tax fraud like I mean literally the guy got like four years and he's an art app and he pulls up a gang member from Hawaii a Samoan
Starting point is 00:59:26 who's been to trial twice for murder he's like a crypt or a blood or something and he pulls them up and starts saying you know basically he caught him smoking like K2 in the bathroom and he starts talking to the guy and the guy is literally about that like he's gonna lose his year yeah because it's already been an issue yeah and the guy wanted the year his mom was dying of cancer and the guy's like trying to hold him accountable he fucking attacks the guy in the morning meeting in front of all the fuck i mean swings on him hits him in the fucking hold i mean it's fucking melee yeah it's crazy they just they encourage you to it's like you're preparing you to go home and like tell on people and stuff i mean i heard the program is a good program for people that like actually need it it's not just it gives you life lessons i heard you did it right yeah i think i did it twice i mean i never passed it because i dropped out on purpose but
Starting point is 01:00:19 it's i think it's a good program i mean i really honestly it it is it has nothing to do with drugs like very little to do with drugs at all yeah it's about just criminal thinking but see so many of these guys need it bro you know you spend enough time meet these guys that you're just like wow you're you're not you're not right like you need you don't know how to say thank you or please or be just a normal being you're just a piece of garbage like and you know they just don't know any better and they're they're they're planning on go wipe out doing drugs and everything else that they got them in there at the begin with you're like yeah you see a lot of people with their their next bid already planned like they got their next scheme and shit like man what are you doing you didn't have enough
Starting point is 01:01:00 like this is enough like what the fuck especially after COVID they everybody should have woke up after that but yeah you meet a lot of people in there that you never get excuse me's you never get thank you it's like they act like the world ozum stuff and shit there is a lot of people that do need our depth so i mean it did help i'm sure it helps some people and the ardap where i was that you had to like get up every week and do like a a fucking 15 minute seminar like on the microphone just like come up with something like you can't even read it off a paper and stuff i was like man fuck that i can't do that shit i have trouble speaking already i can't fucking get up there and do that yeah i was when you went to the halfway house
Starting point is 01:01:34 where did you get did you where did you where did you get a job i mean what do you do what's going on so uh i got to i got to the halfway house 10 months halfway house uh right now i've been on home confinement for about a month now um i started a restoration company um it's not up and fully going yet but i paid the insurance on it and everything set up um i got some friends that know how to do the work and stuff where we're on apps right now trying to land jobs. I wrote another book while I was in prison. I released it while I was in prison. I started making money on the book while I was in prison.
Starting point is 01:02:10 It's called The Plug. It starts out like the whole muscle head story kind of stuff that I told now, but like a little more in detail of the stuff and the whole buildup. And then it takes them through the courts and everything I went through. And then it also takes them through everything in prison, like all the nitty gritty stuff that happened while I was in prison, me. discovering like like going through like everything that I went through mentally I wrote it the book like you could actually see the change in me in the book you could
Starting point is 01:02:38 actually see like how my mind was criminal and how I turned into not being a criminal anymore and there's probably like 500 photos in there like tons of pictures of me in prison pictures of me working out pitches me with guys and jail and stuff it's all photos of like the muscle head stuff like everything me transforming I got into steroids and stuff like that but so I make money off of that book Also, I got some stuff going on to some supplements. I got some friends that legal supplements that are in the supplement industry and stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:07 And I always knew how to manufacture and stuff like that, like legally through manufacturing companies. I'm good at marketing and stuff like that. I know how to do a lot of good marketing and stuff. So I have one buddy who's got a business and he's going to pay me to do some market. I have a bunch of little things that once one of them kicks off and is something that I know is going to make really good money. I'm going to put more my energy into whatever that is. I got a YouTube channel. I started one up.
Starting point is 01:03:36 I put a video up on there. I got 10,000 views right away, which is pretty good. It's not too bad for the first video out of prison. I got the Instagram, Musclehead 320. It's Musclehead 320, but instead of 20, it's an all of the end instead. Because they remove the original account. Right now I'm just kind of doing like a stay-at-home dad thing. My kids, I'm taking care of them and stuff while my girl works.
Starting point is 01:03:59 brings home with bread, tell her I need chicken and rice. She's got to work to give me chicken and rice so I can stay jacked. You got to get to work. I need all this protein. What the fuck? I took care of you for all these years. It's your turn. But she's cool with it.
Starting point is 01:04:10 She likes me to be at home with the kids and stuff, which is good. And I'm just trying to stay out of trouble. I mean, I'm not trying. I am staying out of trouble. I don't know. I have zero urge to break the law. Like, it's done. Like all these years of committing crimes and stuff.
Starting point is 01:04:24 It took me now until fucking, I'm 40 years old now. I took me. But I learned it in my 30s that I was done while I was locked up. But now being 40, it's like the shit's over. I can't afford it. If I go back next time, it's going to be like 20 or 15. And then I'm probably won't even make it. Like, there's no way I'm doing that much time.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Those suicidal thoughts I had before will probably come back and I'll probably get myself. Like I'm not going back to do 20 years. So I'd rather do 20 years. Not ever. Okay. Well, so I was wondering about the muscle. Head 320, you just can't get that account.
Starting point is 01:05:00 You can't get that name anymore. Yeah, so they, they removed the account. Once you've had a name on there, it's gone. So it's the Musclehead 320. Yeah, they took the account down. I still have a Snapchat. My Snapchat has like 400K followers on it. Still somehow, I don't know how.
Starting point is 01:05:18 It's been sitting there for years. That was like a, I know it's kind of like a kid's fucking thing now, but when I was out last time, you could post whatever on there. You could, if you wanted to do one of the, They're naked and they wouldn't take it down. So I used to make a lot of sales on Snapchat too. But yeah, so I just have the regular Musclehead 3-2-0 instead of, but I might change it eventually.
Starting point is 01:05:39 But if somebody goes on Google and Google's Musclehead 320, it takes them right to that Instagram anyway. Even if you put the old number, the zero instead of the O, it takes them right to that Instagram, which is cool. But yeah, so I'm just staying out of trouble and fucking try to get. I get off house arrest and home confinement in Christmas Day in December, which is good. And I'm done with the criminal life.
Starting point is 01:06:08 All right. Is anything else you want me to, like, go back on or dive into? Just let me know I can do it, whatever. No, I think this is good. Can you send me those pictures and, you know, see what editor does with them? Yeah, I got a bunch of pictures. The only thing is, like, some of my pictures,
Starting point is 01:06:26 I got this fucking white pride tattoo. too in my stomach when I was like 18 years old. So he might want to edit some of those out where I could do it probably. You know what people look like something. I don't know. Sometimes it brings a lot of views and people post me with that picture. They're like, what the fuck is this fucking white supremacist doing? They'll click on it and shit. But then again, some of the attention is negative attention. But it was there even a racist thing. Like I got it when I was younger. I was just proud to be white. That's all. Like you see the UFC fighter, Kane Vasquez. He's got brown pride on his chest. And there was never an issue about it.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Even when I used to post as muscle head, it would, that was another thing that used to bring people to the page. Like other pages would feature me and like, like fitness pages. And then the whole comment section will be a race war. It'd be like fucking 3,000 people back and forth. Like, talk of shit, white's black, white's black. Like, I'm not racist. It's just, fuck, I was just proud to be white. But nowadays, America's so sensitive that I've got to get the shit laser off my stomach.
Starting point is 01:07:17 So I'm going to. Especially if I show a good transformation, if I do want to do like a comeback, physical transformation, on social media, but I can't do it with large amounts of steroids anymore. It's not healthy. I'm fucking 40 years old. They can't be pumping fucking major grams of trend and stuff into my body, which I was back then. I was doing a lot of hormones, pushing boundaries and stuff.
Starting point is 01:07:41 And while I was gone, a lot of people passed away, like friends of mine that are well-known, like in the industry and stuff, passed away from doing the same shit that I was doing. And maybe I look at it sometimes, like maybe prison actually saved me from being one of those guys. I could have had a heart attack. I could have crashed my kidneys. I could have this done because I was so wrapped up mentally in that muscle head character that I was doing whatever the fuck I had to do to get bigger, stronger.
Starting point is 01:08:06 And every single time it was like the bigger I got, the more sales came in. So it was like, I posted a new picture of me fucking flexing my traps and stuff. And it was like, there's another fucking $20,000 in steroid sales. So I'll just keep getting big and see what happened. But it wasn't healthy for sure. What happened with the you said there were Hulu episode or something? Yeah there's a there's a Hulu episode. It's called the Age of Influence, Episode 4.
Starting point is 01:08:34 It tells my story. Like some of the stuff I just talked about right now, it takes you back to the shows videos of the city and stuff that I was living in when I sell a weed as a kid and stuff. It brings you through my whole life up to my sentence and stuff, which is, yeah, pretty much up to my sentence, yeah. It's good. It's got a lot of detail in it.
Starting point is 01:08:52 They actually, like, use a lot of my photos and videos and stuff. And as a real good storyline, it was done professionally. It doesn't look like it was slapped together. It's really good. Anybody that watched this, like, wow, that was amazing. Like, people really like it. Hey, you guys, if you like the video, do me a favor. Hit the subscribe button, hit the bell so you get notified of videos just like this.
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