Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - He Sues Cops For Breaking The Law | First Amendment Auditor Rogue Nation

Episode Date: October 27, 2023

He Sues Cops For Breaking The Law | First Amendment Auditor Rogue Nation

In this state, if an officer asks you for ID, you must provide it. There's no law anywhere that says that. As a matter of fact, you don't have to have a license or an ID in any state. All you need to do is provide your name and date of birth. As citizens, we're required to know the law. Okay, when we go in front of a judge, ignorance of the law is no excuse. So we have to know the law. Cops are also citizens.

As citizens, they should know the law. But when they put on that costume, all of a sudden, and they don't need to know the law. They have the guns, the manpower, the prisons, you know, and the prison guards, and they're in control, and they're not playing by your rules. They've got their own set of rules. You know, anytime there's an arrest,

I try to file a lawsuit. One of the lawsuits I'm involved in right now, they had handcuffed me and my buddy, whose name is bad cop, no donut. And you really hate all cops, don't you? You really hate the government. And I said, no, ma'am. I says, I hate bad police.

I'm literally probably one of the most hated men in the Southeast United States. 10 minutes later, the sheriff pulls up on the side of the street. We're walking on the sidewalk, detains us. Literally, no lying, about 15 other cops show up. Sheriff, police, state troopers, all show up, illegally detain us, illegally ID us, and then after 30 minutes end up letting us go. I got two lawsuits at that. Hey, this is Matt Cox, and we have an interview with the owner and operator of the YouTube channel, Rogue Nation.

He is a First Amendment auditor, and I've watched a bunch of his videos, and I was suggested that I interview him. He's going to make a great interview. He's got a great story, so check out the interview. So what is a First Amendment auditor? First Amendment auditor is someone that goes out to test the response that our public officials give to people that are looking for accountability. You know, we go into places that the public's allowed to be in traditionally, like city halls, lobbies of police departments, lobbies of health departments. Anywhere the public's allowed to be, we're allowed to record. And so we just go out there and we test that to make sure.

sure that they understand that and uphold that and in a lot of cases they don't understand that you know and and they think they have power that they they don't really have so when I tell people what it is I do and and you know when people ask me what's your new story about you know because we're independent journalists they say well what's your new story about it says every single video of mine is the same new story it's overstepping of authority it's all it is right they have some authority, yes. But when they come and tell you not to do something that you're allowed to do, that's when they overstep their authority. And that's what I document. I document government officials overstepping their authority. Most people don't realize that the freedom of the press

traditionally and the constitutional intent is the right to shame our public officials and to doing what is noble. And that comes to us from the 1774 letter from the Continental Congress to the inhabitants of Quebec when they were talking to them about the greatness of our rights and the reason being is because even back then corruption ran rampant you know even in the colonies so they understood that without people to watch over and to publicly shame them into doing what's noble they realized that they would they would run unchecked and untouchable and that that's what's happened you know what Americans got complacent and never checked on their officials they said oh I voted You know, I'm good for another four years.

I'll just go back to my little life and, you know, trying to get mine. And they don't look. They expect the government to watch over the government. And I equate that to the mafia watching over the mafia, you know? Yeah, I was going to say, listen, the first thing that happens when a tyrant takes over is he gets hold of the media immediately. Absolutely, absolutely. I mean, Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin. And as soon as they come in.

There's no denying that there's only a few people that run the most major media corporations now in the world. Yeah. And they all, you know, pretty much have that byline. And I know people in media and they all tell me the same thing. Oh, listen to that video with Joe, I mean, I saw Joe Rogan did it, but I've seen the video where it literally has 50 different news organizations all saying the exact same thing. Have you seen it? Yes. It's like the first time I saw it like the hair on my arms with whoosh. It's chilling.

Yeah. And to sit there and say and here's what I know is just being in when I was locked up. And I would get let's say I would say I'm doing a story on you. I would order a bunch of all all the all the news clippings on you. So I get them all. And one of the things I would always end up getting was whatever the U.S. attorneys press release was. And really if there were 30 articles on you when you.

you, let's say, got arrested for some crime. It was really the day after the U.S. attorney did a press release, it was really, they were just rewriting the exact same thing that the U.S. attorney. Like maybe one outlet might have called your mother or your sister or somebody to get a quote. And other than that, they were almost identical. And it was like, so they're putting out press releases. You guys are just regurgitating it.

You're not calling anybody. You're not checking any facts. You're just taking exactly what they say and rewriting it. And I remember thinking, this is nuts. But I didn't even notice that until I started doing the research. Otherwise, I always thought, oh, well, they must be finding these things out themselves, making calls. No. Because you're only reading one.

You're not reading six. Right. If you read six or eight of them, you start to go. You see a pattern. This is nuts. This is exactly the same thing the press release said. So, yeah, that's. They're just a mouthpiece.

Today, now, the mainstream media is just a mouthpiece for the governing bodies. And the reason for that is, is, you know, and again, I talk to people in journalism, and they tell me, you know, that if they cast bad light on the city or the police department. They're excluded now. They're excluded now. So it's one handwashes the other. So, you know, we won't give you any news stories or we won't give you any, you know, breaking news if you don't, you know. So do what we want you to do, which is, you know, run your story by us so that way we can see that we're being cast in the right light. You would think with how easy it is to put out content and how many formats there are to put out, you would get better quality and more accurate news now than ever.

But you're really getting a more censored version of the news than ever. Absolutely. Absolutely. And that's why people have taken to the streets. People, some people realize that. And they say, you know, the only way that I'm going to get, you know, good information about my local area is to go out there myself. Right. And now we're seeing these people at the city hall meetings and, you know, asking questions like First Amendment auditors and stuff like that.

All right. Let's go back to the beginning. Like just like basically like how did, well, I guess really, where were you born? Like were you born in Florida? I am a Florida native. I was born in Orlando, Florida. at the Florida Hospital, Winter Park. And I spent, you know, a couple of years here,

my mother, divorced my father, moved me up to Chicago. And for most of my life, I moved around. I spent about half my life in Chicago, half my life in Florida with a couple of years in Seattle, San Francisco, and Phoenix, and Fort Wayne, Indiana. Why, why don't understand? Why'd you move around so much?

Well, I wanted to find out where the best place was to live. This is when you were a kid? This was like 18 or 19, yeah. okay yeah like when i was like 18 or 19 because like i said i i spent a good amount of time up until 13 years old up in chicago then i moved back down to florida with my father from 13 to 18 and all my buddies down here said man you know florida's great best place to live i'm not going to live anywhere else i was like you never been anywhere else you know what i mean and and you can't really you can't really gauge how good of a place is to live by going to visit for a couple of days or vacationing for a week so

So, you know, I got out on the bus and, you know, took my money and took my chances and went to a couple different spots to see if, you know, if it was true. And, you know, I love California. I love living out there, but too expensive, you know, when I was out there was the year 2000, going into 2001, and I was, you know, a young guy, 27, 28. And I realized, you know, I didn't have a girlfriend or family or anything out there at the time. I realized, I said, this isn't where I can create a family. I can't afford it. So I moved back to Indiana. I found the wife that I have now, and we've been together ever since.

It's been over 20 years now, 21 years. What do you do for a living? Well, I traditionally, I'm a server bartender, and I've done that for about 30 years now. I've been with the same company, which I won't reveal because trolls on the internet like to harass. but I've been with the same company coming on 17 years now and I built such a relationship with them and they're a top 500 company they are a big big restaurant industry

and you know I've worked with them so long and so hard and my boss understands my work ethic that I pretty much make my own schedule now so he'll text me and he'll say can you work and that that's how I work now as he texts me are you free this day to work because he knows I go all over the country doing this. So, you know, I could be in South Carolina tomorrow or Texas next week, you know, so.

Okay. So what happened? So what happened that you got into doing the, like, is there a story behind? Yeah. You just open up TikTok and say, no, that's for me. You know, years ago, about 10 years ago, I was surfing the. internet and I came across sovereign citizens right and they had this this thing where they said you know oh your license and it's all capital letters and all this other stuff so I told my wife I said

you know I said baby I said in six months I'm throwing away my license and I'm throwing away my tag I said I'm driving down the road well six months came and I realized I'm like you know some of these guys what they're saying it's not all together true or it's it's not getting them the results they want so I started met a lot of those guys in prison yeah I started reading law myself and um you know I would pick up law books from their stores or you know I downloaded PDFs online and um it helps that um since the seventh grade around the seventh grade I was reading about 500 to 800 pages a day and I could retain about 70 to 80 percent of it now at that time it was, you know, nonfiction. It was, you know, Hardy Boys and the three detectives by Alfred

Hitchcock and stuff like that. I was, you know, just in the seventh grade. But as I grew older, you mean fiction? Fiction. You said nonfiction. Yeah, yeah, sorry. Yeah, fix it. So, but as I got older, you know, it became more nonfiction. So now in my home, you'll find, you know, 300-year-old history books, 200-year-old law books that I collect. And, and that's, you know, and that's a what I read because, you know, knowledge is everything. So my progression went like this. I looked into the sovereign citizen stuff. I dismissed it as not being viable. I looked into some conspiracy theories and, you know, when I got the knowledge of what was going on in the conspiracy theory realm, I started talking to people and I got negative reactions. And to me,

it seemed like this is you know this is suspicious we should look into it no no one gave a damn so i was like all right i said maybe i need a different approach so i started breeding uh economics and i got into the whole usury fiat currency system and and you know how they're manipulating us that way and i said now this i could take this to people and they'll understand that right it's math you can't deny it one plus one is two. Right. Well, they still denied it. So I'm like, what the hell is going on? So then I got into psychology. I started reading about Edward Bernays. I started reading about group think. I started reading about neurolinguistic programming and all that other stuff. And then I realized why people do what they do and think what they think and all that other stuff. And then from there,

I said, well, we can only wake people up if we show them that there's a, problem. Right now, America doesn't realize there's a problem with policing because they don't see it. So I equated to an alcoholic that doesn't know he's an alcoholic. He's not looking to go to AA, right? He doesn't think there's a problem. And first step is realizing there is a problem. Exactly. And America still needs to realize that there is a problem with our system, right? And a lot of times people aren't going to do that because half the people, their party's in power. So nothing's wrong with the system. Right.

You know, and I saw that year after year, election after election, you know, when the Republicans got in the office, well, then the Democrats would say, oh, well, these guys, you know, it's the Antichrist. And, you know, these guys are going to, it's all corrupt and the system's going to fall apart. Well, then four years later, the Democrats would get in power. And the Republicans would say, well, this guy's the Antichrist, you know, and this guy is, you know, he's going to bring it down and all this other stuff. but just change sides each and every time. And I told myself, I said, people need to realize that there's a problem with the system. And the only way to do that is to show them that.

And I came across the guy by the name of Jeff Gray and another gentleman by the name of Joel Chandler. They're both Florida guys. Jeff Gray's from St. Augustine. I'm not sure where Joel Chandler's from. But these guys had picked up cameras, and they were going out and they were confronting government. They were getting public record.

and they were asking questions of the government. And I said, this is the way forward, right? Well, and now you have a platform. By this point, you actually have a platform where I guess like in 2000, you don't really have it. Even if you got that footage, like there wasn't really anywhere to put that footage. You couldn't get that out there anywhere in 2000. When was YouTube even started?

Was it 2000? A little bit after, I think, 2002 or something like that. And even then it took a while for it to take off. Oh, yeah. really started utilizing it i was going to say the one other thing made me think of with the sovereign citizen thing is that i have a i had a buddy well i have a buddy named chris moreno and he could he could quote every single thing about sovereign citizens he could show you the law he could talk about how uh you you you don't you they're the the the law that says you have to pay federal

income tax is it was never ratified and how this was never this and this was never this he could show all of that stuff. And I would say, yeah, but, you know, the problem is that in the end, all of that could be true. Yeah. In the end, they have, they have the guns, the manpower, the prisons, you know, and the prison guards, and they're in control, and they're not playing by your rules. They've got their own set of rules. I was like, so you can spout all this. And every sovereign citizen I've ever met in federal prison, the whole five years.

that they did or three years or two years that they served they complained and said how they were illegally being sentenced the entire five years but you know what they did they did the whole five years they got out they did their probation you know so what does it matter if they're they're not playing by those rules you can show me the law yeah but the federal but the judge says no and the prosecutors say this and then they tell this guy to lock you up and you can tell every single person along the way hey I this isn't right the law says this and they're like yeah I understand get in the cage yeah handcuff up do this take your clothes off getting that you're getting in prison it's like what the fuck if you know it makes no difference if you know the law

if everyone around you doesn't know the law right you know what I mean like I I tell people with the right to travel do we have a right to travel absolutely we have a right to travel do we have a right to drive an automobile without a license absolutely you do Not a motor vehicle, which is what all vehicles are now. Right. But in automobile, you absolutely do. We do have that right. However, every time you drive down the road, you will get pulled over.

The officer won't realize that you have the right. You will get arrested. Your car will be impounded and you will go to court. Right. You can do that until your heart's content and it's never going to change. So what is more free? Is it more free to spend all your time in court, bonding out your car and bonding out yourself? or just go get a license and drive wherever you want.

Right. You know, so they hold all the cards, and American is brainwashed pretty thoroughly. You know, we get that 12 years of state education where they beat into our heads, how great the Constitution is, and how we should obey authority. How you should be an employee, you should go work at Walmart. That's right. You know, what's funny is they never say, you need to work hard, create a job. Right.

It's never that. you need to get a job not create a job yeah it's funny like they don't teach you even really even how to balance a checkbook how to open a bank out how to how to how credit cards work how to pay credit cards how credit works like all the things that really would help you be super successful in a financial way they don't really teach you that they teach you how to follow directions fill out an application go get your job at walmart stock the shelves listen to your boss be a good you know get your two weeks pay for a vacation be a good employee hold get a buy a house pay it off by the time you get your social security benefits and live within your means that's it that's it that's the perfect

lower middle class because the middle class is almost non-existent in the united states so that's your perfect lower middle class existence right there right that's what high school prepares you for right and and that's what school was set up to specifically do woodrow wilson had a speech in 19 to the New York Teachers Association. And in that speech, he said, in the time that we have, we can only do certain things. So by necessity, we can only educate a small percentage of the population. And then by necessity, a larger portion of the population has to be educated just enough to do menial tasks of labor to help society. That's what they set up the public school system for.

when you look at it they pull it off oh yeah yeah they had no opposition because nobody understood nobody cared and again you know people have always been focused on on my life how do i make my life better right so i'll vote every four years depending on what i believe republican or democrat but then after that voting's done i'm going to go back to my own little world i'm going to worry about my job about my you know taking the kids to soccer practice and You know, freedom sometimes can be a hindrance, right? When you have 536 channels of TV to choose from, that freedom can be detrimental to you. Right.

Because now you're wasting time. You're not doing anything productive. You're not learning law or psychology or currency. I'm a big proponent of every human needs more than a passing understanding of the three things that every human being on the planet uses every day of their life. The law, their mind, and their money. If in school, if that was all they taught, you would have the most educated society ever known to the world

if they taught those three things. Because once you learn how to use your mind, you can teach yourself. Once you know how to learn your money, you'll never be defrauded, you know? And once you learn the law, you know the rules that you have to abide by. You know, like we were talking earlier,

I don't get scared when a cop approaches me. Not at all. 20 years ago, I'd shaking my boots. Right. Because I didn't know the law. I didn't know the limits of their authority. I didn't know what they could do. I didn't know what I could do.

But once I started learning the law, everything became clear. I said, you know what? You can't do that. I'm not scared of you. You know what I mean? You can't force me to do this or force me to do that. Right. So, well, sorry, I got you off track. You were talking about the two guys that were taking cameras and Joel Chandler and Jeff Gray. Yeah. And those guys, Jeff Gray is probably one of the original starters of the movement. He joined a group called PNAC, which stood for photography as not a crime. And that was started by Carlos Miller out of Miami. And basically they would go around. They would do audits, but they would also do public record requests.

And they had a lot of case law made here in Florida, Joel Chandler specifically about getting public records. And it intrigued me because, you know, whenever I went to the government to ask questions, they just ignore me like they do most citizens, you know. But these guys were getting results. And I said that that's what I need to do. I need to pick up a camera. I need to go out there. I need to start questioning these guys. but I need to know the law behind it as well.

Now, one of the things they got me and Jeff Gray specifically started doing this kind of activity is the Dozier School for Boys. Have you ever heard of it? Was this the one where they were killing all those kids? 80 to 90 kids were murdered and raped and no one was ever prosecuted for the crime. And they were just finding like these, the bot, like what, 50, 80 years later? How, when was this? uh supposedly the the murdering and raping went on from the 40s to the 60s and they didn't start fighting the bodies until 2000 2012 the boys school and boys boys prison prison and in marianney

mariana florida um i want to say it's in jackson county but it's up in the panhandle but the city's called mariana so i mean think about how think about it you're your kids in trouble he gets in trouble he's sent there for whatever a year a year later when their parents think hey he should be getting out you know where is he they said we released him he didn't come home well he's a runaway like yeah what you know he was a bad kid anyway he was sent to prison he's so nobody really looks for him they think oh he ran away he was a problem and but really they've been molesting the kid in in prison they they beat him to death or killed him they just buried the body that's right prison officials right of course because who else could

it have been right right so my issue was the fact that because I've been in facilities right and I know they do roll call every night you know you're sitting on your bunk you're calling out your name right your white Caucasian 77 2566 DOC so my thing was is how did kids just disappear this is a secure facility I mean it's secure fences barbed wire everything they didn't just run away right so so it's okay so like uh you know you tell your boss the warden of the prison and I can't find this kid. Okay, maybe he did run away. Maybe it's an accident.

40 kids later. You know, you're like, so it wasn't just the guy that was beating and murdering the kid. Right. It was a supervisor. It was a supervisor, supervisor. Right. And who checked on these kids? Multiple people have to know.

Like, anybody who's been into a facility knows that one cop can't lie and have someone disappear. Multiple people have to be involved in that. Records have to be covered. up records have to be created yeah you know oh no he got to a point we we signed him every day every roll call for six more months then he got released we have to show his release papers we have to show they signed the release papers they was released with his stuff someone picked him up like all that has to be documented for him to be let go for you for you to cover that up and that can't be done by one guy exactly and then um the state prison is overseen by other state employees right they

inspector general office i believe is who does the overseeing of the prisons and stuff here in florida so somebody in that office would have to be complying as well right because they come to check on the prison god man you got 40 kids missing here yeah you know so um it yeah yeah yeah it's it's it's a corrupt system right from the get go you know maybe they were uh doing some geoffrey epstein type stuff you know maybe high rollers from tallahassee were rolling in for a little fun with the boys you know there there's no telling what was going on there you're saying that that made you realize like what were you doing public records requests or you just asked when the articles came out and you started realizing wow well that made me realize that the state needs help the state

needs help watching its employees because obviously it can't do the job itself right right um you know just like if i was to you know let's say you ran a boys home and and you lost 40 kids you know you're not the state you're just a private contract or something but i would still look at that and say matt needs help right we lost 40 kids last year he doesn't know where they went he obviously needs help watching these kids so i'm going to come out and i'm going to stand outside matt's facility and i'm going to watch and maybe i'll see a couple of kids hop in the fence and running away and you know maybe it will help track him down or something like that but the whole thing was is the fact that uh the state like i said like the mafia is is ill-equipped to watch a

over itself. Right. So that was the takeaway I got from that. So at what point did you decide, you know, I'm going to start, I'm going to start doing this. I mean, I understand you're saying that. It was, it was 2018. And, you know, my wife, she's not, I'm going to say involved.

Most, most ladies are not as involved with rights, civil rights, and, and, and protecting our rights and stuff like that as men are um and you could tell that just from the viewership i get on my channel which is about 90% male 10% female um so she was weary obviously um women are mostly non confrontational and you have to realize hey every time i go out there's a damn good chance there's going to be a confrontation and with someone in authority exactly is really fucking you know bulsy because she's got high anxiety so it really eats at her because every time i go out she's just sitting at home on end thinking, is he going to get arrested? Is he going to get beat?

Is he going to get shot? Right. You know, so I waited until she and our daughters went on vacation up north. And I had a couple of weeks, and I picked up a camera. I said, let me try this out and let me see how it goes. And I did it for a couple weeks while they were gone. And I got a good response. I did it.

What typically happens? What typically happens is that, you know, you walk in. And, you know, regardless of what you're doing, I try to walk in and stay quiet. I walk around anywhere, post office, city hall. My first, my first audit was Ocala City Hall. And I walked in and, you know, they tried to tell me I wasn't allowed to be there and that sort of thing. But, you know, I was. They gave me an escort around the facility after they told me that I wasn't allowed to be there.

And I stood my ground. And, you know, the guy from upstairs came down and was like, yeah, you know, whatever. So they followed me around or whatever. But, you know, I try to go in. I try to be as quiet as possible. I'll look at stuff. And then when people come to me, that's when the confrontation begins. And usually people come up to me and they'll say, hey, you're not allowed to be in here filming.

And, you know, a lot of people enjoy my work because I'm pretty easy going. And I'm like, no, no, I'm fine. You're okay. Right. It'll be all right. You're okay. And they'll, you know, they'll look at me. No, no, no, really, you're not allowed to be in here.

No, no, no, no, it's cool. It's cool. It'll be all right. You know? And it just, it pisses them off more, you know, because I'm just, I'm so nonchalant about it, right? I'm not like, ooh, you know. I'm just like, no, no, it's okay. And you don't have permission.

I'm like, oh, I don't need permission. It's okay, you know? And so it gets them kind of riled up. But, you know, when my wife came back after a vacation. Do they typically call the cops or do sometimes they just meander off? You know, traditionally, I say about 40 to 50% of the facilities that I visit are what is called a pass, which they either leave me alone or they don't try to restrict my rights or they don't call the police. So, and I post some of those up online too because I want to show the contrast. As a matter of fact, I was in Biloxi, Mississippi last year sometime, and I did their city hall.

and they did such a great job I ended up on the front page of the local newspaper out there for the audit and they loved it and I tell people the only difference is the people's reaction to my camera

because I do the same audit wherever I go walk in, view the facility and it's just how people react to it that makes the video either a pass or fail and I get a good percentage the passes now when i started down here in florida almost every place i went was a was an issue um

what year was this this was 2018 late 2018 2019 is really when i started picking up um so yeah for most of the time i go out there was an issue now when i go out i kid you not i give you an example i was in a friend of osseola county jail one time i'm standing out there recording cop rolls up rolls down his window. How you doing, George? Do you have enough sunscreen on? What? Right. I'm like, okay, these guys, they know. Yeah. They know now. And, you know, I go back, I do revisits. Now, when I started a lot of auditors, I'd say most auditors would never do revisits, right? And to me, I said, to myself, I said, if I don't go back to these places, I don't know if they've learned anything. thing. So in this community, I'm the king of revisits. I probably got more revisits than every other

auditor combined, you know, because I just, I want to keep hitting them. You know, to me, it's always been like a puppy type thing where you want to rub their nose in the law so that they understand it, right? And the only way to do that is to keep going back and going back. And, and sometimes, you know, like a Marion County courthouse, first two times I went there, got kicked out, you know, called sovereign citizen, got kicked out. The third time I went there, cop walks into the part of the building where I'm at. He sees me, I'm recording.

He goes, oh, you're just doing an audit? I'm like, yeah, okay, turns around and walks out. I never had to file a complaint. Right. Never had to file a lawsuit. The issue is that people don't know the law. Right. And they have these myths, you know,

oh, you can't take my picture, you need permission, you know, blah, blah, blah. And right. And so when they see me, they think these things. And then I tell them, no, no, no, right? And then I leave. And then they go home at night and they're talking to their wife or they're talking to their husband or they're talking to a friend over a cup of coffee. This guy came into my office the other day. He's recording. You know, and their buddy goes, oh, yeah, that's legal. Or maybe they're talking to a lawyer or a cop buddy. Oh, yeah, you know, that's legal. And then education starts happening. People don't want information from me. Right. Right. That's why they call the cops. Because, the cops when they do come there and they know the law they tell them the exact same thing i do yeah but but people don't want to take my word for it right they need somebody in authority again that's that school system coming in right so so real quick what happened you said the first time you did it and then your wife came back the my wife came back and and she was weary about me doing it so i but you hadn't had any problems i hadn't had any issues up into that point so um i stopped um while when she came back i stopped for like no no no two or two or did you

tell her what you did you tell her no i told her what i was doing what she said she knew when you left you were going to do this yeah she knew when she left i was going to do that and when she got back we talked about it and again she's weary you know she's like i don't want to you know spend my life with a guy that's in and out of jail and you know all this other stuff and and and she's got a great point you know i'm almost 50 years old i don't feel like i should be in and out of jail either but but i told her i said this this needs to be done I said, this is really important to me, you know, and she's finally like, okay, you know, go ahead. And so she allowed me, you know, to continue what I was doing.

And then from that point on, I just went balls to the wall. I, in four years, I put out more content than every other auditor you can think of out there. Like, I consistently was putting out an audit a day, you know, three, 400 audits a year where, like, Jeff Gray, who's been doing it six years longer to me doesn't have half the audits that I do. So I'm a real hardcore work ethic kind of guy. I started 8 a.m. when the government building's open and I don't stop till 5. Sometimes I miss lunch. Sometimes I don't even eat dinner because after 5 I hit all the places that aren't closed. Prisons, airports, county jails. You know, there's always places that that aren't specifically closed at 5. Juvenile facilities. I'll roll by. So I'm real hardcore. And as far as,

the work out that goes and um you know the first i had a couple of arrests i've had four total uh three of them were dismissed this last one was not what happened with the with the first time you got arrested what was the first time i was arrested was in front of the orange county jail uh 33rd street and it was right where they released the inmates out of you know so if you're you're you're getting released this is would be where you're getting out of yeah little section i didn't even go inside I stood outside. I was filming inside the facility. And the sergeant had come out and, you know, hey, what are you doing?

You got ID? And I was like, ID. I'm like, no, I don't have any ID. You know, I'm not giving you ID. And he says, well, you know, you're out here. You're recording the jail. I said, well, is that illegal? Right.

He said, well, hold on. And then he goes back inside. I'm not sure. Right. He goes back inside. And while he's back inside, we walk around a little bit more. more and and then we walk back to to where he is and he called a couple of buddies and uh his his buddy portico i think his name was uh comes up and he asked my buddy now the guy that i was with

this was his first time out at all okay like totally his first time out at all and uh and he he's talking to the cop and the cop says well you know you give you know you're being trespassed and so i need your ID which is not correct right okay um Um, and, uh, you know, he did, first of all, is it a cop or is it, it's a, it's a sheriff's deputy. Sheriff's deputy, yeah. So he, you know, he told him, he goes, I need ID. And, you know, my buddy goes, what crime do I commit? He goes, well, listen, I need your ID for the trespass.

You need being trespass, which you don't need in Florida here. And he wouldn't give it to him. So he arrested him. And then they turned to me and they said, well, are you giving an ID? And I said, no, I'm not giving an ID. And they arrested me. And they put us both in. We spent the night in and we got bonded out the next day.

and a couple I think it was like a week later the charges ended up getting dropped he had hired a lawyer and she had filed a motion of discovery who hired your buddy yeah yeah his name was Charles and and he hired a lawyer and she submitted a motion for discovery to see this evidence of wrongdoing and they ended up dropping the charges and that what that took about a week to do then my next arrest was at the Yeah. I have a question. Do you file a complaint after that or do you file a lawsuit? We filed a lawsuit after that. And there was actually two lawsuits filed on that instance. And when I was outside being arrested, there was a sergeant from inside the facility that was outside watching it happen. And he knew I hadn't given ID. So after they arrested me, they transported me in there. And we're in. inside the processing facility and they give me the blues which were actually I think orange you know but the uniform they give you and then okay go ahead and go in the room and change I changed and I came back out and the sergeant who knew that I hadn't given ID he says what's your name I said well you can call me good citizen well he immediately came over handcuffed me again jerked my arms up behind my

back and then walked me into a cell and in that cell I sat for I think 13 hours before I was allowed to make my phone call or even get processed out and then you know so we filed two two two lawsuits one on the arrest and then one on the injury to my arm for when he jacked me up inside the facility so yeah we definitely you know anytime there's an arrest I try to file a lawsuit if there's a any way So what happens with those lawsuits? Like do they, do you take them all the way through?

Do they come and they, you know? Usually they settle. Okay. Most times they settle. We haven't had to take one to trial yet. Right. But they're settling for a penance. Yeah, very little money.

But it's still enough for them to realize we were, we made a mistake. Right. This is the result of that mistake. It's not, we can't just arrest someone, hold them for a fucking week, let them go, drop the charge. and move move on now he's going to cause some problems there's going to be a lawsuit we're going to have to pay out some money we're going to have to file paper so now he's costing us because that's really when you hit them in in their you know pocket books that's really when they go okay look what you're doing now a lot of people are involved yep you know now the state attorney or the county

attorney has to hear about it now it's like well why'd you do that why am i now feeling why am i now addressing a motion or in a lawsuit and multiple motions when all you guys had to do was say okay cool all right and walk away like he didn't break the law we have dropped the charges now we're being sued and what's really interesting about that orange county arrest is if you remember the casey anthony trial right yeah when she was released that's the exact same place that she was released where all the paparazzi were they didn't arrest any of those guys no and you could tell they all provide maybe they all provided uh id that's what it is it's possibly they all had a little press pass that's yeah the little press pass so

I made a great press pass in my first couple of years. What I did was is I go to these public places and I take the pamphlets that they put in the lobbies. Right. And I cut them out to make them say what I'd want. And then I put it all into like a little press pass. I laminated it. And then I was so happy about it.

So anytime they asked me for my press pass, I'd hand it to him. I said, look, I said, you want to get a copy of that. Right. I said, that's the only press pass like that ever. I said, that is the only press pass approved. And proved and paid for by we the people. And, yeah, they didn't like that.

What was the one guy? One guy says he's, he has a press pass or a pass that he gives them an ID. One guy's got an ID that he gives them. I forget what it says, though. It says something. Well, Jeff Gray invented. He's such an innovator. But he started when they asked for ID.

He goes, oh, yeah, I got into my pocket. Let me fish it out. And then he'd pull out the eye and the D. the little kid's magnets. He goes, there's my eye and there's my D. And, you know, he'd get a chuckle out of them sometimes or whatever, but sometimes they wouldn't like it. But, you know, I always thought it was hilarious, you know.

But it's just more misconception. What did your wife say when you got arrested the first time? My wife was off the chain the first time I got arrested. That's that with you? Well, yeah, and I'll tell you the reason why. I didn't even tell her I was going out that day to audit, right? I didn't tell her where I was. She was calling, like, hospitals and jails all around Florida looking for me, you know?

So that was my bad. That was my mistake. It's like mountain climbing. It's like rock climbing. You have to tell someone where you're going. Exactly. You can't switch it at the last minute. This is where I'll be.

This is where to start the, uh, where they're going to look for me. This is where to start. Yep. Yep. So now we've got that all squared away. She's, uh, she's got a tracking app on my phone. she can she can erase my phone remotely so so so now she now she knows now she can call Hillsborough County Sheriff's Department oh no he's there yeah oh yeah he's

there absolutely process yet he's there exactly but I but now I text her I mean at every stop you know I text her I say listen baby I'm you know she already knows what county I'm in I said I'm going in to do my audit I'll text you when I get out so it's a group activity this is this is like it's like date night it is it is I feel like she doesn't think that, but really, it's a bonding experience. She just doesn't, she doesn't see it like that. Right, but again, because most women don't care about civil rights and aspects and like that, and I try to tell her how important it is for our kids, you know, especially in today's age,

like if my daughter's, you know, running around doing them musically or I guess it's TikTok now, it's not long musically or whatever, but doing a TikTok or something, I don't want her getting harassed by cops or something because she's, walking down the road filming, which I actually saw a video of a kid that was walking down the road filming a TikTok and the police arrested him because he would, because the kid knew his rights too, which is surprising. He was 17 years old, but the kid knew his rights. I'm not giving you no ID because I didn't do anything wrong. Well, the lady over here thinks you're recording her house. Doesn't matter what she thinks. Right. And it's irrelevant. They put him in the car.

They drove him to his dad's house. The cops went out to talk to his dad. You know what his dad did? picked out his phone and started recording pissed those cops off dude they were like my father like son blah blah blah and then they drove off with the kid you know and he had to go get them or whatever but it's like what do you expect right you know so so so what happened with the second

the second one the second arrest was at the Tampa Port of Tampa where they do the carnival cruise ships yeah okay okay so as you go up to the terminal you know they have the building building or whatever it's kind of like open air there's stairs and then you go upstairs and then you go through this like line and then you go into like into the building with the doors and the inside is where the tsa checks your bags and everything before you get on the cruise now the upstairs is

open to anybody there's no ticket counter below there's no gate there's no you know ticket owners only signage or whatever so we had went up there and it was me and my buddy And they didn't like it. Oh, you can't record here. I mean, they were really bludgeoned. They really wanted to arrest us. And this is just the employees. No, this was the Hillsborough County Sheriff Reserve.

They were reserved deputies, guys that were. Volunteers? They, I guess they're like retired or semi-retired. Okay. You know, they're too old to be out there on the street, I guess, type of deal. Right. And so they stick them in these kind of positions, call them reserve deputies. And they were like, oh, yeah, you know, you can't be here.

You know, we're going to get arrested, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I wasn't ready to get arrested that day. So I said, you know what? I said, I'm going to leave. I'm going to go ahead and leave. And I'll come back. And so I left. And about a week later, I call up my lawyer.

And I told him, I said, Vince, I'm going to get arrested, buddy. And he says, okay, just tell me when and where. And I'll have some witnesses there for you. Perfect. Nice. So we go back home and we pull every kind of document you can imagine. We pulled the contract with Carnival and the Port of Tampa. We pulled all the operational documents for the Port of Tampa.

We pulled federal law as far as it was concerned because a port is a federal entryway. You know, so there's federal law that governs the ports. So we pulled all of that, right? And we printed it out. So is it public? It was public. It was public. And I had it all ready.

I had it in my back pocket, and I told him, I said, we're going back this day. And so we went back, and it was me and my buddy, Dr. Sean Barry. Dr. Sean Barry, I believe at the time was in his mid-50s. He'd never been arrested in his life. The man holds three PhDs, right? So we go up there, and one of the same guys is there. And he comes in me, goes, no, you guys can't be up here. I said, no, listen, I says, I have everything right here in my pocket.

I said, we're totally allowed to be here. I didn't realize it at the time but my lawyer was sitting like 20 feet away with like three other lawyers watching this whole thing go down and he goes well you're not allowed to be and I said listen I says I'm going to stay here

I said if you guys have to arrest me I said that's fine you know what I mean the cop actually the deputy said it was the nicest arrest he's ever he's ever had you know so you know we told him I said we're not leaving you know this is it this is what it is so they arrested us

And I finally realized my lawyer was there because as I was being arrested, I hear, George, it's okay. We're going to bodge you out. And I look around as my lawyer. I'm like, yes. So we go, Hillsborough. We get bonded out a couple hours, me and Doc. And my lawyer, he handles both of our criminal cases and he handles the civil case.

Now, we're on an NDA, non-disclosure agreement for the civil case as far as that goes. I can't say if we want to lost or whatever. Um, but the outcome was, was satisfactory to me. So, um, but it just, uh, it just, uh, you know, it amazed me. My, my lawyer, uh, funny story, he contacted me. I didn't contact him. Right. I was doing a live stream one day out in front of, uh, the Oriental Road jail, which is in

Tampa. They got two jails. Orient, Orient Road. Yeah. Orient Road. So I was out there. I was doing a live stream. I was like, I need to get down the.

Punta Gorda because they're a hotbed of tyranny down in Punta Gorda. I said, I need to get down there. I said, but I need about $700 to get down there. This guy pops up in chat. He goes, give me a call. He goes, I'll pay for the whole thing. I'm like, wow, who is this guy? So I, you know, get in touch with him. He's a lawyer. He says, I'm going to give you $750.00. All I want from you is to advertise my law firm underneath your videos. He goes, awesome. And I'll handle any criminal. cases that come to you in Florida because he's a Florida lawyer. I was like, man, that's a great deal. And that we've had a working relationship now for the last three or four years. Now, he's retired, but any legal questions I have, he's, I got his text,

I got his phone number, his email, he's always responsive to me, and he loves what I do. You know, he's got issues with cops himself, you know, and so he understands it. But, yeah, he totally reached out to me. and, you know, offered me help and advice. So I was pretty thankful for that. You know, that really helped me out early on. You know, how long on the second one did you sit in jail? It was like four or five hours.

It wasn't long at all, you know, because like I said, he's a lawyer. He's got the bond money family's right there. Plus it helped that he knew the DA that was charging me. So that kind of helped it speed along. But they took forever to dismiss those charges. It was literally like a year before they dismissed those charges. Did you ever revisit them? No, no.

Other people had revisited them. So when I started auditing, there were like three or four people in the state of Florida that were auditing. Now there's probably about 50 people that do audits in Florida now. So what happened was is after time, after I'd done pretty much all of Florida, and I got my camera here, or my thing here, and you guys might want to take a shot of this to put on your video, but I'm going to show you this is a map of everywhere I've been since, just since COVID started,

I put little dots on the map. Is that an iPhone? Huh? Is that an iPhone? No, this is Motorola. I was going to say you could air-drop it. So. But you could screenshot it and send it to me.

Yeah. so what happens is once i you know got through florida pretty much and they were complying for the most part i said now it's time for me to to branch out so that is even all over that's everywhere i've been and and as you get as you get closer here you can see oh yeah there's way more oh yeah yeah you know what i mean like it's just yeah each one of these little flags that he has when you get closer it becomes four five six seven different flags so it's not just like no no there's hundreds yeah yeah that's just water yeah just send it you can screenshot that yeah yeah screenshot a couple different spots and send it to me like a whole thing and then a couple

different ones yeah absolutely like this won't come out for a while yeah so i was going to say i ask a question real quick what are you doing with the camera like are you just you just have like a a gimbal that you're holding or you just holding your camera or do you have it actually on a on a body i i have uh multiple cameras uh when i started i started with a two hundred dollar camera from walmart one of those handheld sonies you know the flip open thing then i um you know because you're shaky especially when you're new and you're you know surrounded by five cops it's it's an adrenaline dump you know so um i got a what it's called a a sea stabilizer it's a like a see looks like a c and then the camera goes on the bottom and then

on the top so after i had that i bought a 360 camera and i put that on top and and now my rig it's changed over the years um i bought a 1500 dollar sony camera and that was confiscated within three months by pauling county when they arrested me it's been over two years i still haven't got that camera back and um so now i'm using the lg wing phone um i use that i use a 360 camera I use a body camera as well, one that goes on. I do have a GoPro. The problem I found with GoPro is that they overheat. There's only about an hour time of recording.

Right. And also. You've got three different ones going. Right, right. So it doesn't matter. And then one other issue I had, which I didn't realize until I was in the middle of an audit, was my, my GoPro 7 is voice activated. So once it's powered on, I get. say GoPro start recording right go pro stop recording well one day I'm in the middle of an

audit and this lady says you need to stop recording beep beep beep there goes my that's my GoPro I'm like you're out you know I can't use you no more so I stopped using that and one of my subscribers bought me a I think the name of the thing is Bob Love and it's a it's a great body cam it goes about eight hours has about eight hours recording time and And it's never failed me. It's not voice activated. I turn it on when I'm ready, and I turn it off when I'm ready. And that's worked wonders for me.

The body cam, even the GoPro, when I did use it, save my ass. Right. Yeah, because one time in Dothan, one of the lawsuits I'm involved in right now, they had handcuffed me and my buddy, whose name is bad cop, no donut. And they handcuffed us, and they made us sit down. they took my recording equipment but i still had my gopro on so i was like gopro start recording and we sat there for about an hour the gopro caught it all and it's instrumental in in um my case right now right because they illegally searched us and and you know such like that

but um yeah i mean i i advocate for as many cameras as possible i mean how you're i was gonna say was um that it's funny you know you say that you know i'm i'm i'm all auditing the you know I'm doing a first amendment audit that I'm auditing them and so I think that there's like a misconception on a lot of things that are out there for example like like if you want to be licensed by the state right so I want to be licensed by the state to let's say to to do mortgages like right so I want to be a licensed mortgage broker I want to be a licensed brokerage business or a a bank or a credit union like those are all things that the state licenses you for right but there's all types of organizations out there that are private organizations that certify you and license you

for things that the the state and federal you know the county state and federal governments don't cover right because they just can't cover everything right so for instance i do uh keynote speaking and and some of these organizations that i do keynote speaking for like the um association of certified financial examiners they they offer certifications like this isn't a government body this is a company that was created that said look we need to come up with curriculum and certifications for people for there to be a standard you know um for financial examiners and it's the same thing you have the same type of of organizations that do those same types of things for um for what do they call it for penetration specialists right for hackers right you have the same so there's

there's lots of these different types of organizations that govern a specific organization or industry that are completely unrelated and yet the government will go to them and say you know hey who do you have that can help us do this or hey we'd like to send some of our FBI agents to your or the local organization and have them go through your course and get certified so now you're you're an fbi agent asking you're the f you're the federal bureau of investigation asking for this public or this private company to certify your fbi agents to do you know certified audits of you know books or you know companies or whatever and those aren't so to me you know some of these organizations and some of them might come and they might never go anywhere and some of them

have been around for 20 30 years and they end up working with the government so to me the fact that you're saying oh well I'm doing an audit like but it's just like like you're saying like who else is going to audit them the government's going to audit the government you can't you know what I'm saying you can't trust that right you can't read you cannot proof read your own work right you know I know as a writer if I read if I write five paragraphs and then I read it to try and proof read it i'm not going to catch my own mistakes i'm the one that made the mistakes right so i mean i think that you want to think about kind of doing like a whole like certification like actually certifying people to do this you know we've thought about in the community

trying to get some kind of uh standards right you know to where we could weed out some of the guys that are knuckleheads right but and and i don't want to say unfortunate because it's not unfortunate but we're all under the independent journalist like label right and there is no certification you know it's it's hard because this isn't you know like a thing that we can do this is a right you know and no one should be able to tell someone else how to express their right you know it'd be like free speech advocates telling westboro baptist church how they should perform their protests right Nobody likes Westboro Baptist Church, right? Their protests or whatever against soldiers and what have you not.

Most Americans don't agree with them. But we all agree that they have the right. They have the right. And we need to fight to make sure they have that right and keep that right. Even though what they say is totally disgust into us, we still need to understand they have that right. And it's the same thing with the independent journalist. Like, I don't like how these guys are out there, you know, some guys are out there like literally watching people. at restaurants outdoor cafes you know just and and i don't care for that it's it's totally

detrimental to my movement yeah but in the sense he's not doing anything wrong right you know what i mean so even though i'd like to be like hey you know we don't like that and you shouldn't do that at the end of the day he's going to do it anyway regardless there's nothing we can do to stop him and that's his right yeah to do that so i i was going to say um you know who does that who does the certification thing uh what was the the woman I forget her name that does the crime clean up. Remember that? Yeah, I keep going back.

I don't know if I've gone back to her a few times. She actually, she started a whole crime clean, like, you know, after people commit suicide or die, like the families are like, okay, well, I've got a dead body and there's all kinds of stuff left over after my grandfather committed suicide. Like, who's going to clean this up? Like, I don't want to do it. You shouldn't have to do it. You know, and they're like, is there somebody I can contact?

And so she started a company that started doing that. and then she started branching out and then she started like certifying people like you have to go through a whole course just to do this in order for me to to buy like a she's doing um what is it when you brand when you do um franchising yeah but she makes them yeah laura spalding yeah laura spolting but she makes you get certified and the whole thing um but it's also kind of like a business opportunity thing for her too so but yeah i i i i get that i would it always kills me when they're when the cops say you know what do you have your a press credentials like what press could like well you press well who are you who would who would license me as a press press press press but that that that's one of my favorite comebacks is when they say well do you have press credentials who issues that yeah who issues that if you could tell me who issues that I'll provide them right and they're like oh and then I go the press hasn't been licensed since 1662 in England under the licensing act right they've never been licensed in America I said

there's not one federal or state law that licensed journalists right so because you give you the ability to limit the licensing. Exactly. Now you don't, oh, that's that asshole, so and so we don't like him. Don't license him. Exactly. Exactly. It's like getting a license to vote. Right. Or license for free speech. Yeah. You have to take a test. You have to take a test. Yeah. Wait a minute now. Yeah. One of my buddies, he uses that. He goes, I'll show you my license for the free press when you show me your license to practice free religion. Right. So, and, you know, they'd always miss them, you know. What was the, What was the next time you got arrested?

The third, there was the third, and I know the, while I asked one. The third time was out in, yeah, what's the name of that town? It's right, Bill, my, by Mobile, I can't remember the name of the town now. It's a little small town. Birmingham, no. No, no, it's, it's by Mobile. Hold on, I'll be able to tell you right away. And what's funny is, you know, a little flag next time.

I do, because, yeah, because I visited it, but Pritchard. Pritchard, Alabama. Pritchard Alabama. And it places a hell hole. It literally, people around Mobile, Alabama, when you ask where do I not want to go, Pritchard Alabama is where you don't want to go. And so you said that's well, then that's what we'll start. That's always the way I am.

When people call me up and they say, hey, man, these people are tyrants. You won't get out of there without getting arrested. I'm like, where's this again? How long is it going to take me to get there? that's where I want to be right because it's the same thing of like when people are like well you know the cops never mess with me well yeah the cops never mess with people that comply with their unlawful order right that's a given I always comply yeah I'm very polite when they say ID but you know I was I was telling my I told this to my wife the other day I said it kills me when these guys will

give them their ID I see because I'll give my ID to anybody and I said and I go it's not just the police I said do you understand if we were walking on the mall and someone just walked up to me and said, hey, bro, excuse me, do you have ID? Can I see your ID? I'd be like, yeah, what's up? I just immediately would do it. I would be like, yeah, why, what's going on? Okay. And even walked off, I'd be like, hey, wait a second, but I just instinctively would probably do it. Not even thinking he's demanding it just because I'm very, you know, you know, happy, go away. Yeah, I'm just kind of a goof. I'm not thinking you're trying, you know, first of all, you can't, I don't know what you could do with my ID

anyway but and and i've still people's identity so you know i'm pretty i i probably get the i get the information online without ever talking to you but right so but i just naturally am a compliant person that's you know you know pretty um you know just go along with whatever i wouldn't be thinking anything really so when the cops ask i'm always like sure no problem most people are right but But I also don't feel like we said, you know, I also don't feel I have anything to hide. And I'm not thinking they're demanding it. I think if I was in another situation, it bothers me. It's funny because it, so if you ask me to do something, I have no problem doing it.

It's when people start demanding. That's when I get, all right, well, you know, had you asked me nicely, that's one thing. I give anybody, you mean, they asked me nicely. Somebody walks in me, yo, bro, let me see your ID. then it would be like, the fuck are you, bro. But if you'd walked up and said, hey, man, can I see your ID? Do you have ID?

What's your name? Oh, my name is Matt. Well, my name's Joe. What's up? Hey, can I see your idea? Sure. Like, I would probably be pulling my wallet out before I even said, well, why?

What is this about? You still probably have my ID before you even told me what it was about. But if you walked up and you were a prick, I don't think I'd give you my ID. Well, and what you just said there is important because what happened and what has happened is that because Americans have nothing to hide, most Americans, and they feel like, you know, I should obey authority. When the police come up and they ask them for ID, they're,

oh, yeah, let me give me that ID. You know, they're in a rush to prove that they, that nothing's wrong, that they didn't do anything wrong, you know, and everything's fine. And what has happened over time is because there's been no resistance there, then the police get it in their mind, oh, I can ask anybody for ID. Right.

I mean, if you watch 10 of my videos and nine of them, cops are telling you, like straight up telling you. And this state, if an officer asks you for ID, you must provide it. Right. And I'm like, what? Yeah. There's no law anywhere that says that. Yeah. As a matter of fact, you don't have to have a license or an ID in any state.

All you need to do is provide your name and date of birth. You don't have to have a license. Right. Unless you're driving a motor vehicle. Right. You know, so. so so you you went to i want to pritchard alabama and outside of pritchard or in pritchard there's a um it's a work release facility and i was standing on the easement the public right away right next to the road and i'm

recording this is the third one it's the third arrest okay lady comes out and uh you know she's oh you can't record here you know who's with you by the way just you this is me just by myself I've done about half my audits by myself I'm comfortable either way with people or without people but I was with somebody at this time or nobody at this time lady comes out you can't record here

you know same old same all yeah I'm allowed to record here I'll be fine you know blah blah blah they call the cops the cops show up I'm talking with one you know for a couple of minutes then the second one rolls up and again it's like you know

you need to provide ID and such and like that and I was in the middle of providing my information. You know, I said, okay, I said, I'll provide information. I gave him my name, George. And then the officer over here says, well, where do you live? I said, well, that's not important and that's not required by law. Now I'm going to jail. Boom, boom.

Just like that? Just like that quick. And all this is online. You can check it out, but it's all online. And yeah, you know, right in the middle of it. And I was like, I couldn't believe it. and they locked me up they put me in the car they took me in and uh it took me a couple hours to get out i have a buddy that lives right around bad cop what are they saying um i don't even

remember what the charges were on that one i i think it was uh i think it was trespassing and and i don't know if it was obstruction or or whatever do you bring an id no oh so so when you say i don't have ID. I don't have ID. No, because again, they're known to like pat you down and search you and stuff like that. So that would, I don't want to do that and voluntarily give it up. So I'd never bring my ID. I leave it in the car. And cars parked down the road. You have a dummy wallet that when you, you open it up, it says, why are you looking through my wallet? Listen, you want you want to know something funny? I do have a dummy wallet. Okay. I call it the bait wallet. Right. Okay. So what I did was I went out and I bought a, a man purse, right? It's

It's a top gun volleyball tournament man purse, right? And it's got a little pocket outside of it. And I stuffed the wallet in there. So it's completely visible, right? So when the officer's like, you got an idea, I'm like, no. What's that? I said, well, that's my bait wallet. That's for criminals only.

And I haven't had an officer reach for it yet. But if they were to reach for it, when you pull out the wallet, right on the front of the wallet, it says, F you. the words then when you open up the wallet and you see the idea it's for mclovin right his hawaii license you have one that if you when you open the wallet it has a high pierce something like a shot one of their shock things like you know that would be funny but um okay so back to pritchard seems like you get arrested a lot quicker that way but yeah yeah so uh so they took me and they booked me um i paid my bond and i got out now pritchard is in economically

depressed area. When we were looking at bond, you know, you could do bond two ways. You can go through a bond company or you can submit the money to the court itself in a full to bond you out and that way you don't have to pay the 10% to the bondsman. Well, the people I knew in that area said, listen, he goes, you don't want to pay the bond of Pritchard. You'll never see that money again. Right.

And I was like, really, there's in such dire straits. And when you drive through the town, you could see it. Like I told the cop when we were driving through, I was looking around at. the building that's it don't look like you guys can afford a lawsuit right you know you want to do this right so um yeah you know i got bonded out and it took i don't know i'd say three or four months before my my trial how much was the bond i'd say a thousand bucks somewhere around did you pay the whole thousand no we paid a bondsman okay uh but since i was out estate, I ended up paying a little bit more than $100, I think it was like $500 or whatever.

That's standard when you're out of state, I guess, at least in my instances when I've been arrested out of state. So I paid that, and about three or four months later was my trial. And at the day of the trial, they dismissed the charges on a technicality. I'm assuming the technicality was that I was innocent, but whatever they want to do, whatever they want to say now on that one I didn't file a lawsuit and the reason being is because I thought there would be no chance of recovery even if I did one because they're very like I said very depressed economically there was just a story not long after this happened where the

lady that ran the water department there was busted for stealing $400,000 and they did a whole raid on her house it's all on the news and stuff it's crazy but you know I like to spend my time accordingly and my resources where I think they'll do the most help. So after that happened, I invoked a couple of people to come with me. So I had a guy fly out from California. I had two guys driving from Texas and me and one, two, three other guys drove in from Florida to Pritchard, Alabama. And we all stood out on that same easement. This is before the trial. well two of my buddies two of my buddies ended up

getting arrested there as well right and uh so uh they've they've taken their court you know to trial and everything and they're not facing charges anymore either they dropped those two yeah yeah they uh well they they worked out some kind of

some kind of thing where they wouldn't come back for like a year or something like that it wasn't like a come back in the town for a year it was totally unenforceable yeah it was like whatever so they did that because what happened was is they were like they would set a court date and then like buddy would fly from California and the Texas and drive over to Alabama with the other guy and they would get there oh it's postponed and they do it like three or four times my buddy's like I can't afford to keep flying back and forth and doing all this stuff he's just like they're trying to wear you down right so they did that but in that return trip we had numerous

revisits and that we did that day and total of three guys ended up getting arrested that day one guy got arrested at our first spot we revisited which was a a police department there and um he got arrested there and then so while he was getting booked in we went down the road to the airport we did a audit there and then we found out what his bond was so we went and we bonded him out then we went back to Pritchard where the other two guys got arrested we went back to the county jail to pick up the first guy we bonded out and then we went and did some more audits and then later that night we went back and we picked up the two other guys that were arrested and that was our day so pretty pretty exciting stuff this is an interesting club yeah you know yeah yeah vastly different than

most oh yeah yeah and it's it's all it's all shapes and sizes and and uh education levels and careers and colors, you know, a lot of people, a lot of people when I started were like, oh, yeah, that's white privilege, you know, you're, you're, you know, you do that because you're white. And I'm like, have you not seen my boy? Big, we need a black guy. Big Nick, South Florida accountability. Big, big, big Nick don't play, baby. He, he, he goes hard. Big Nick, South Florida accountability. And I tell him, I said, listen, when you know your rights, it doesn't matter what color you are. Right. You know, and it's true. I mean, big Nick, Nick. and there's others, you know, that, that hold him to the fire.

I got my boy Eli in New York City, and he holds him to the fire, you know. Eli Hispanic or? He's mixed, I believe, but. Definitely not a white guy. Definitely not a white guy. And, you know, the way he talks, I want to say, you know, Jamaican or Dominican or something, but I don't know, you know. I've never really asked him because it never really mattered to me.

you know what race or what color you know what i mean he's always he came to me eli came to me uh years ago before he started dodding and he's a he does hip hop okay and he wrote a couple of songs about the community and one of the songs he wrote i was in the lyrics and a couple of my other buddies were in the lyrics um and the name of the songs cop watch and um so i played that should be the name of a channel yeah well i played his music on some of my videos like on some of my best of rogue nation videos i use his song as my intros and uh and he picked up a camera and he started doing it and and he's been doing great up there as well you know new york city is just uh you know when you got an organization of 17 000

people it's just logical that there's going to be corruption and grift and stuff like that going on it's just too big of an organization not to be doing you know somebody doing that and in new york city specifically they have a policy against recording inside the precincts and that's what all the guys are up there challenging now so they've had about three or four arrests of guys going in like me and challenging the ordinance and we're getting court cases brought up now to to challenge that um so you know that's basically you know what it's about is just holding people responsible and and and digging into where the mainstream media isn't digging in you know um so what happened with the third or with your fourth arrest with this last rest my fourth arrest again by myself i was up in

pauling county georgia and which is just west of atlanta and um it was really strange because i wasn't planning on auditing where i ended up that day i was in the town a little south of there i can't remember the name i want to say douglasville but i could be wrong there is a douglasville is there it it could have been that but i was in the town and i was planning on auditing there but when i woke up the next morning i was looking at my my tried and true map and i noticed that there was an area that had like three or four detention centers like a jail a detention center and that so i was like man that would be a great spot to start my day off so i drove up there i parked on the side of the road um in front of the 911 call center but on the public right away

I walked down to the prison Got in the parking lot Started recording It was in December So it was cold It was kind of rainy Had an umbrella And I had no gloves on

And You know I walked in I started recording The guys came out You know You're not allowed to be here This is state property

You're not allowed to record him I don't know I'm okay You know whatever And you know Okay well we're going to call The county sheriff or whatever I'm like yeah no problem And I

Do they have any idea? Like, are they just, it's so foreign to them? It is. It is. Most people think that government property is private property or you can't be there. You know what I mean? Like they don't understand public at all and what's allowed and where you're allowed to be or whatever. So he was like, yeah, we're going to just call the county sheriff or whatever.

And I'm like, oh, all right, you know, no problem. And I put one of my hands in my pocket because I was cold. You know, I didn't have gloves on you. Can you take your hands out of your pocket? I was like, hell, no. I ain't taking my hands out of my pocket. pocket it's cold well that's the obstruction charge they they ended up hitting me with but i'll get to that in a second so i was like yeah whatever and you know i'm walking around the parking lot first cop pulls up

it's a guy and a lady i don't know if they're deputies polting county and i don't know if she was being trained or if she was an actual deputy but she didn't say much or do much but i'm talking with a deputy back and forth here and there and you know what are you doing here i said well i'm just recording you know oh are you done i said no i says i just got here i said then these guys started freaking out you know i said i know that this is a public parking lot it's got a freaking sign right on the gate that says visitors you know what i mean so so people park here and they come in to visit so i know it's not restricted no access signs none of that and he goes uh he says something and he goes he goes and i uh it came to it to where he said you know am i detain he said

know and uh and he goes you know you're free to leave i says well i'm free to stay also oh well you're just here to cause a problem and cause a crew you know blah blah blah and then as soon as he said that another deputy pulls up gets out of his car starts walking towards us and this deputy asked this deputy has been asked to leave and this deputy says yeah he's been asked multiple times but he says this is public property so he don't need to leave and the officer walking up says this is a correctional facility and this guy goes that's right and so this officer gets in him he goes this is a correctional facility do you want to leave now i said what do you mean correctional facility goes this is a correctional facility so right now poop boop you're under arrest takes and sets my

camera down rip like literally rips my umbrella out of my hand and then puts me in front of the car they they think they got me for trespass right now so i'm in front of the car he gets my name he goes what's your address where do you live i says well i'm not legally required to give you that. It's not required by the state statute. Well, that's fine. I'll just put an obstruction charge on you. I said, well, do what you got to do. I says, I know I'll beat that in court. So what they did was is after they got me arrested, put me in the county jail, they changed the trespassing to loitering near inmates, which is a felony. Again, a statute that hadn't hardly, if ever been used in 100 years. Me and my lawyer believe it's part of the chain gang

statutes, and then they took the obstruction charge from the cop that said he was going to give it to me and gave it to the director, the facility, because I didn't remove my hands out of my pocket. And then they prosecuted me for it. It took a little over two years for my case to come to court. Meanwhile, they kept my camera, which they didn't need to keep my camera because A, they never signed a warrant to get any of the video footage off the camera, right? So it was no good to them. Two, they never used a video camera in court in trial. You know, they just, they didn't use it.

They didn't bring it up. They didn't show it, nothing. And then after the court cases, you know, I'm convicted and everything else like that, we try to get my camera back and they said, no, no, well, he's appealing. So we're going to keep this for the appeals process, knowing that you can't introduce new evidence in appeals. And there's no evidence on there that isn't already in the record. Right, because I took the video from the camera.

I petition the court to, you know, because obviously this is going to not convict me, right? Right. So I'm not doing nothing. There's no inmates. So the video's already out there. There's no reason to keep my camera except to punish me. Right. For not doing what they said.

Yeah. So how long was the trial? The trial took about a week. A week? Yeah, it took about a week. We started. We had to pick the jury, you know, so that took like a day or two. And then the trial, you know, the witnesses.

and stuff like that. So, I mean, I smoked them when I got on the witness stand. I mean, I really put it to her because, you know, she's, you know, trying to create this narrative. She's like, you really hate all cops, don't you? You really hate the government. And I said, no, ma'am. I says, I hate bad police.

I said, I think we would all agree that bad police are not needed. Wouldn't you agree, ma'am? Oh, she didn't like that because she had to agree. Right. You know? So, but in the end, what happened was, is. Because they had a panel of boot liquors, and she got on there. There's a couple things that happened.

One, she used evidence she wasn't allowed to use, right? We talked with the judge and said, this evidence is allowable. This isn't allowable. Right. Well, she showed the evidence that wasn't allowable anyway. And then, oh, I made a mistake. Forget you saw that, you know. And then at the end, because in closing arguments, State gets the last word, and we can't rebut it.

Right. So she gets up there. do we really want this guy from Florida coming up in our neighborhood harassing our neighbors? Well, what more do you need to say? Right. You know what I mean? Like, of course nobody wants that, right?

They want to punish me because here I am, a Florida guy coming up to Georgia and I'm harassing their neighbors, you know, and really there was no harassing at all. Right. You know, so it's all about narratives with these folks and how they get spent it to make themselves look the best and whatnot. not. But I'm pretty sure on appeals will be able to beat it. And I'll tell you one of the reasons

why is that there's a case up there. It's a civil case called Cox Communications versus low. And it went to the Georgia appeals court in 1985. And there was a reporter who was in the prison parking lot, show him in the prison. Right. And he caught an inmate on camera. And the inmate filed a invasion of privacy lawsuit against them, which was dismissed because the judge said there's no information that he could get on the camera that's not already publicly available, right? Like, people know that you're convicted, they know your crime, it's in the news. So there's nothing that he could get that would be an invasion of your privacy. But in that case, he specifically said that where the reporter was is public.

And he was allowed to be there. So I should have been allowed to be in the parking lot where I was allowed to be. So we got pretty high hopes on the appeals. but I mean again it's it's a corrupt system so I tell people don't don't take the arrest if you can do anything don't take the arrest because you can document violations of civil rights and I have without getting arrested matter of fact all three lawsuits I have in Alabama right now are for incidents where I was not arrested and I'm doing them all pro se so you know it's not something that needs to happen as far as that goes and and

you know again they violate rights literally every day i mean today right now as we're talking this moment someone's having their rights violated right so well i have a question what your probation officer in georgia what is what is he saying well i tend to transfer probation oh i'm sorry i'm sorry okay because i live down here right so they transferred my probation to marion county what's your probation officer down here say uh i mean they like this is silly well this it's a she okay and this is the first I said, have you ever had a journalist on probation? No, this is the first time, you know. So they're weary because, you know, because I asked them, I says,

if a cop comes up to me and asks me for my ID, I said, do I have to provide that to him since I'm on probation? Well, not really. It's a Fourth Amendment type deal. You know what I mean? And I'm like, exactly. But the funny part of the whole thing is, is that six months before I got put on probation, I was at that probation office doing an audit.

Right. I actually audited my probation officer supervisor. So when I'm in the office doing my probation, I'm looking at this guy. I'm like, didn't I audit you? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They did a wonderful job when I was there. So that kind of eased attention. But I just found it humorous that this probation office I was assigned to, which I just audited a while back.

But they seem okay with it. I need permission to go out of the county every time I'm on felony probation. So, like, I had to get permission to come here today. I submitted my list for this week. I'm covering a trial in Orlando. I'm covering the trial in Hernando County. Covering a council meeting tomorrow night in Sumter County. So I got to get permission to go out and do all that stuff.

But does all of that stuff end up on your channel? Or you cherry pick. You go somewhere. You're like, there was just nothing interesting here. Or you edit it down? Yeah. I try to put as much as I can. And, like, if I'm going to spend time to go somewhere, like for the trial, that'll definitely be on the channel.

For the county meeting, that should probably be on the channel. I don't try to just put, you know, bad stuff or gotcha moments or whatever. I try to put, you know, what I can on there. But because I'm on probation and because of the fact that it would just take an arrest, not a conviction, to violate my probation, which would. possibly get me an automatic two-year sentence, you know, the judge can automatically give me two years because my sentence could have been one to five years, you know, it's because of felony. Right. And he gave me three years probation. But if I violate that probation, you can stick me right back in the jail

two or three years, you know, and we wouldn't have to go to court over it or nothing. So it's restricted my auditing activities. So that's why I haven't been putting a lot of my own material out on my channel. it's just it's too big of a risk I'm the only earner for the family right so if I was to go to jail for two years I'd lose my house I'd lose my wife I'd lose my kids I lose my car you know I'd lose everything right you know I'd get back out and be homeless and so what are you putting what are you putting on the channel now I'm putting you know stories I do voiceovers on new stories or other people's videos that I see that are along the same

lines of what I do or I think that would be topics of interest to my subscribers. You know, anything dealing with government overreach or corruption, anything of that nature. Like, for example, the Sumter County meeting tomorrow night, the commission is trying to pass a new fire fee and supposedly on one business, it's going to raise their fire fee tax like 140,000 percent like stupid amounts of money um so you know people want to know about stuff like that um i put lawsuit information on my channel because my lawsuits are still ongoing um you know just stuff like that stuff that would interest them okay you know public records request that kind of stuff what do you use to edit yourself i use a program called videopad pro um and i do my my own editing it's

not nothing fancy you know i just clip here and clip there and and that's about I try to keep it as basic as I can, you know, I don't want people thinking that I'm editing out, you know, important information, you know, like a couple of the guys in the community, they like to go around and like act suspicious, you know, like, done behind cars and, you know, all that kinds of stuff and get the police interested in what they're doing. But I don't like to do any of that. And I don't want to be accused of, you know, oh, he's editing his videos. So we don't really know if he's slapping the cop before the cop or them or what you know which is another reason why I got my 360 camera which was the best piece of advice I could give to anybody that wants to get into auditing as the 360 camera because that leaves no doubt about what's transpiring around you you know what I mean so I was up in Panama City Panama City at their City Hall a couple years ago and the video is titled when a good cop goes bad and I had these two officers that approached me and they knew it was legal for me to be there. They weren't trying to kick me out or

anything, but they stood on each side of me and just belittled me and ridiculed me and tried to poke at me to get me to do something or say something, which I didn't do. And after they followed me around for about 20 minutes, I was in a spot and I was looking one way, right? And the cop doesn't know that it's a 360 camera. Right. So he puts his leg behind my leg and then he hit checks me right and i don't see it because i'm i'm facing this way and he's behind me and he's like don't you bump into me again boy and i'm like damn i'm like i need to get out of here these guys are getting right right i thought i'd bumped into him i was like i'm sorry sir i didn't mean to bump into you right don't bump into me again boy i was like okay these guys seems

like a lawsuit right there yeah i was like this this guy's a little bit out of control i said i'm going to get out of here. Plus, I'd been there for like an hour. I'm like almost every one of my batteries on my cameras were dead. I was like, if I don't have a camera going, I don't have no proof. So I got out of there. I got home. I'm sitting there. I told my wife, I said, baby, I said, sit down here and watch this 360 camera with me. I said, I think something transpired here. And sure enough, you know, I had to angle it just right. But you could see him. You can see him put his leg behind mine and do that little hip check on me. And I'll, you know, I was. I was like, God damn it, that little bastard.

But without that 360 camera, I mean, if he would have pushed the issue, that could have been a battery on law enforcement officer. I mean, that could have been the mandatory five years, especially in Florida with my already criminal record down from a kid. So, I mean, that really saved my ass there. Not that he did anything, but if he would have, that really would have saved my ass. So I tell people, you know, one of the best pieces of advice I can give the people out there

trying to do this is get a camera. that sees everything right you know because they're not above doing something i know a lot of people are like oh cops will never do nothing like that i've actually got it on film you know so it's not an issue of if they would if if the opportunity arises would they do something like that absolutely how long before you think the uh the appeal is in georgia they have a year to a year and a half to hear the appeal i think it has to be done within a year and a half Now, what we're waiting on right now is we're waiting on the transcripts. So my lawyer's waiting for them to transcribe the record.

Then he'll go through the record and he'll find, you know, whatever he needs to find for the appeal. But the process in Georgia is that you have to file a motion for a new trial, right? So we filed that. And then once we get the transcript, they'll hear that motion, which most likely they'll deny, and then we can file for the appeal. Then that'll take a year to a year and a half. So I'm looking at about two years of spending on probation and waiting for my appeals to go through.

Now, if we went on the appeal, we're definitely going to try to sue. There's so many things messed up with it. Like, for example, they actually searched and towed my car, even though it was nowhere near the scene where I was arrested. Right. So that's, you know, violations there. um obviously um i don't want to say malicious prosecution but that could be a possibility uh but the fact that they're keeping my camera is a federal violation right there's actually federal law that says that you can't confiscate journalists equipment you know especially if

there's news stories on it that need to be released um there was a gentleman that that filed in one on that case in uh fort valley Georgia it's Dunn versus Fort Valley just a small case there but yeah it's it's you know it's it's it's never ending you know because I tell people the state is always hiring new idiots right they're they're constantly hiring new people that don't know the law right so even in places where I've been like I've been the places the first time and they've been just awesome and then I'll go back there the next time just to double check.

Right. And it's hell on earth. You know, like insane. And, um, and it's just because, you know, when you go to a place, let's say you go to city hall on Monday, you might only see 10 to 20% of the people that work at city hall. Right. And they're giving the, you know, vacations or days off or sick thing, whatever have you.

And you go back the very next day, you'll see, you know, somebody you didn't see that first day and he's a real, you know. Right. And he really, you know, gives it. to you. So that's part of the reasons why we do, why we do revisits, but I'm secure in the fact that I'll never have to not do this because of the fact that the state doesn't care to educate its employees enough, you know, and just same thing with officers, you know, I've gotten emails from training officers that say, you know, this is ridiculous. There's no supervision

on the streets. They, they ride around with these guys after the academy. me one or two days and they give them a badge and put them on the street and say hey save the world you know and and then these guys don't have a clue what they're doing and one of my buddies um i'm not going to say what agency he works for but he's a buddy mine he works for a law enforcement agency and he gave me his books from the academy uh so i could look through them hardly any law at all in these training books i think the only two laws i found were uh terry verse ohio and Pennsylvania v. Mems. I don't remember any other case law being in these books.

You know, there's, of course, force and use of force and all this other stuff, but very, very little law. And supposedly, you know, these officers are supposed to, in their free time, you know, study the law. That's not happening. Right. I was going to say the, it's funny that the people that have the most contact with the public and the most responsibility with enforcing the law have the least training in the law in the law right you know right and i'm not expecting

these people to be lawyers obviously if you knew the law that well you wouldn't be an officer you'd be getting paid double what you are right i understand that but basic laws like id law it's basic right yeah as a law enforcement officer the id law is the is the law that you use most throughout your career every day of your career you're using that law most right so to me it's akin to a carpenter who doesn't know what a level is right or a bartender who doesn't know what a rum and coke is you know what i mean like how can you perform your duties if you don't know how can i enforce something i don't know well that's why we call them feelings enforcers because they just enforce whatever they feel right you know i feel this is wrong so i'm going to tell you not to do it or you know and then

And because of the way the law is made up, I'll just arrest you for anything and say it's disorderly conduct or, you know, obstruction or whatever. There's a couple of catch-all charges in every state that they have to go to. Yeah, I always love that when they're, you know, they want to, they want your ID and I'm going to, I'm detaining you. Why are you detaining me for suspicion of a crime? What crime? You're acting suspiciously. Was that a crime? being suspicious like what am I suspicious I'm walking down the sidewalk I have I have an

iPhone I have an iPhone and I'm walking down the sidewalk how is that suspicious oh you know they don't know why because I want you to do what I want you to do exactly because I'm a police officer and I did eight weeks at the academy and I have this badge it's power right it's power right it's funny because there are just you you you watch these I watch these shorts and the TikToks and stuff and I think and in so many times you'll see some cop just go nuts and all I can think about is wow he should not only like it's worse than he should be he should be told not to behave that way but no he should never be in a position of power like you guys hired the wrong guy like that that's a guy that you need to say look bro honestly

you can be in the precinct doing paperwork but you can't be dealing with the public anymore Like your attitude is so detrimental to our, you know, to our agenda, to our goals or to law enforcement. Like you're behaving the opposite of how we should be perceived. Like you're a total bully and you're unreasonable and you're aggressive and violent. You shouldn't be on the street. You certainly shouldn't be a police officer. And if so, at best, you should be doing paperwork. You shouldn't even be in the, you shouldn't even be a deputy.

dealing with inmates because they're even in a worse position exactly so um yeah but and you see those all the time yeah absolutely do you have like a tic-tok account or i i had a tic-tok account but um time resources wise it just wasn't doing anything for me um so i haven't been on it for a while i have my youtube account and i have a facebook account that i'm i'm pushing now um that i do most of my work on and that sort of thing um you know it's it's it's it's it's what it is um we can only do what we can do you know we can only do it you know you're years away from doing this anymore sounds like sort of sort of now um i'm working reworking my my methods to uh hopefully steer away from the possibility of being arrested now i told my subscribers the other

I'm and you saw the map I'm literally probably one of the most hated men in the southeast United States because I've made a lot of people I don't want to say made a lot of people look stupid they made themselves look stupid right but I exposed a lot of people acting stupid you know so it it's not a far stretch to think hey I can go arrest George for whatever because it doesn't matter if it sticks right because he still violates his probation right And I get them off the street for two years. So I'm kind of switching up my tactics. Like now what I'm doing is I'm going after public records, right?

So this week, this past week, I called Marion County and I called Ocala. In Florida, you're allowed to visually inspect and copy records, right? So you can come in, you can visually see them and inspect them and copy them. It doesn't cost you anything except for maybe a little redaction. So now what I'm doing is I'm calling ahead and I'm getting. them to get the records ready for me to come in and visually inspect, and I'm going after credit card receipts, credit card records and credit card receipts for all employees. Now, I did this last year. I started pulling credit card statements last year, and I found a whole

bunch of corruption, I guess you could say, or just misuse of credit card statements, the county credit cards, buying personal items, food, you know, just all kinds of stuff. Travel. Yeah, yeah, the stuff they always get caught for right like i'll give you a perfect example and i want to say this was in uh north carolina phavel north carolina i pulled the credit card records for them and on there there was a credit card statement from a website now on the statements it just says you bought it from here and this is how much but it doesn't tell you what they bought right you need the actual receipt for that right so this lady bought something from this website so when i looked at the website well it's school uniforms for kids, $300 worth, all right? So I called up, I says, I'm going to need the receipt

for this purchase so I can see what you bought. Oh, well, we don't have the receipt for that. The credit card was stolen. Somebody made that purchase using the credit card after they stole it. Okay. Sure they did. You know what I mean? I didn't have a chance to look into it further because I wanted to look into it further. I wanted to see the report they made, obviously, because if the credit card was stolen they should have reported to the police I was never able to to get around to doing that but I because of the probation I think they're going to find that they've made a mistake because I'm the kind of guy with my work ethic that's it's not going to let something go right right so I'm confined pretty much to Marion County so that means I'm pretty much going to be camping

outside Marion County Commissioner's house I'm going to be following them around seeing if they're having affairs. I'm going to be digging through every contract. Marion County puts out. I'm going to be digging through every credit card receipt. I mean, I know they think they've beat me or won in some aspect, but I guarantee you by the end of it, they're going to be glad that I'm off probation and I'm back out into Alabama and South Carolina. I was supposed to be in Louisiana this year. That place is a hotbed of tyranny. Nobody wants to touch that place. Hotbed of tyranny. Hotbed of tyranny. Oh, God. You know, Massachusetts is horrible. Oh, yeah.

It's horrible. Oh, yeah. With corruption, I don't know what the cops are like, but with corruption, it's rough. You know, like I said, like I've seen, I've been all over the country and it's all the same. You know, a lot of times people call me up and I'd be like, George, man, I need you up here. It's so bad. These cops are so corrupt. And I'm like, you say that because you live there.

Right. You know what I mean? But in reality, that's everywhere. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like I've had my worst experience was probably Dothin, uh, out. Alabama as far as being treated and stuff, but even now, they've, they've corrected themselves. You know, when we went there the first day, you know, I was there for a day, we hit like five

locations. And every five, every location was just a total massacre. You know what I mean? Like the first place we went, I was in handcuffs for an hour, me and my buddy, you know, then they released us. And then we went on our way. And then the next building, they wouldn't let us in. They had a herd of people. This is. during COVID they had a herd of people standing outside waiting to get in line they incited these people against us right i had some one lady's go i'm going to beat you with my ugly stick or something like crazy right i titled that uh i titled that uh i titled that video a herd of boot lickers stampede the cops right i always try to find funny little things so we left there we went to the sheriff

department and uh you know there was only a little lobby that we could go into so we went in there and then we walked out and then like 10 minutes later the sheriff pulls up on the side of the street, we're walking on the sidewalk, detains us. Literally, no lying, about 15 other cops show up. Sheriff, police, state troopers, all show up, illegally detain us, illegally ID us, and then after 30 minutes end up letting us go. And I've got a lawsuit, I got two lawsuits that day out of visiting Dothan, which is the most lawsuits I've ever had. Now, when I went down to Punta Gorda, I got five trespasses in one day from that. from that place because they they're crazy down there too we're fighting them on a lot of items down

there but um you know when stuff pops up you got to right you got to put down what else happens with the content what are you going to do for a content i mean i understand you're putting stuff up i understand you're doing the um the uh the FOIA requests on credit on the use of credit cards uh but i mean are you doing anything like interviewing other guys other um i haven't really done interviews per se so much and if I do do interviews it's usually from people that I'm doing stories on okay you know so like I think the last interview I did was a couple up in Kentucky where the guy was he was going for a walk and he had his rifle with him because he was going to go plinking right at the end of his walk and something happened and the cop said that four or five

people called in and said that he was like pointing the gun at him as they were driving down the road and you know all this other stuff so you know i interviewed them and and got their story out that's the kind of uh interviews that that i partake in well there's a guy now that walks around with his i don't know what he's walked around with an ar-15 or something you know and he's in in florida and um solo yacker yeah the armed fisherman yeah the armed fisherman that's it he's a good buddy yeah what what a what i watched one of his where he was just walking through like a uh was an area where you fish like a park and and the cop pulled the gun on him like he's just walking and have his gun out anything it's just that got pulls his gun out and and is aiming at him and

he's been on the ground and you know whatever he's like the fuck bro like what are you doing he's he's been put on the ground so many times and had guns pulled on him and you know I give it to him um I'm a felon I was a felon at 18 so I've never had a gun right so um I give it to him the guys got really balls of steel and um you know i i hang out with them again every once and a while we've done audits together not second amendment but just regular audits right he's gone with me and a few and uh you know just a good guy but you know these are things that that people need to do we need to test the limits he's the one that said we that one of the cops said to him well you understand that you're making people feel nervous yeah but i shouldn't i shouldn't they shouldn't feel nervous

right and he's like that's the whole point is that the more they see someone out here you know with a weapon walking around, going fishing, doing this. Like, as an open carry thing, you should be allowed to have it. You know, they shouldn't feel nervous. Right. You know, so. Right. And if it's the law, it's the law for a reason, right?

You know, so. Well, I'm a big believer in, like, an armed society is a polite society. If everybody, if everybody out there had the right to carry a firearm or was even requested to carry a firearm, like, we're asking you to, I promise you, the amount of robberies, armed robberies that would actually happen would drop by 95%. Absolutely. You know, you wouldn't walk in, you wouldn't walk in and rob a McDonald's if you knew that there were eight other guys in there that had guns. Exactly. You'd be like, oh, hell no. Right, right. It's easy targets. It's always been that way. And just like, I don't know if you knew the story of Kennesaw, Georgia,

where they passed the law back in the 80s that every, you know, able-bodied, man, woman, child should have a gun and and their crime has been the same even though they've grown 20,000 people. You know what I mean? It's it's amazing. The same thing with Florida. Once Florida had their carry laws and stuff put into effect, you know, everybody thought it was going to be a blood bat down here and they find out it's not. With Sweden, there's almost no crime. Yeah. There's almost virtually no crime. But you also have every single citizen has had to serve time in the military and has and is asked to carry a weapon. Right.

And it's proficient with it. Right. So who, no, no robin here. No. Bad idea. That would be a stupid criminal. Right.

That would be a very stupid criminal, you know? So, and I'd been a criminal. You know what I mean? You just look for a softer target. Absolutely. It's not that I'm saying, maybe you don't commit crime.

Maybe you realize it's just not worth it. Or maybe you say, you know what, I'm going to move on. I'm going to drive into Belgium. Right. Drive into another country where they're not going.

Or maybe I'm going to do something. like bank fraud where I don't have to interact with people, you know, or something along that much. I'm breaking one. There's nobody in the store. Like maybe burglaries are slightly higher or something, but yeah. Right. Actually pulling a gun and robbering somebody now. Okay. I feel like we've covered a lot. Yeah. Have you been interviewed before like this? Not so much in the setting, but I have done interviews. Like on stream. Like on a stream or something. Yeah. Yeah. I was interviewed by a. National Library Association or something.

I don't remember the guys, but they look pretty stuffy. And, you know, he was sitting in an overgrown chair and, you know, hello. You know, but it's pretty cool. But, yeah, I've done a couple of them. But, you know, again, this stuff is not mainstream. And, you know, there's a whole group of people out there that are so against what we do that they spend. Why? But they just don't like it.

Well, first of all, they think it's illegal. All right? They're part of the group that think it's illegal to go and film people. Then they think that it's harassing. You know, well, you're just in there harassing the workers. Well, you know, regardless. You're a public employee. You're in a public space.

You're subject to being recorded. If you're in a public space, you're subject to being recorded. if you're, you know, you know what I'm saying? Like, like across the board, like that's just, it's just silliness. And it's like, oh, you don't have my permission. I don't need your permission. And if you're unhappy about it, then go work somewhere else. Exactly.

But, but see, they, they, again, it's, it's all about beliefs, which is why I wish that people would, would learn about how their mind works, right? Because if people don't know how their mind works, then they don't know how the information is coming into their brain. They don't know how it's being misused. and we are being manipulated by not knowing how our mind works, you know. And also, you're being recorded all the time anyway. Like you're always being recorded.

People don't realize that there's... But people say, now this is their argument that they're not putting their videos on YouTube. You know, the security cameras, they're not going on YouTube or somebody's dash cam is not going on YouTube or something like that. But again, the whole point of the situation is to videotape our, public officials and bring their actions to the citizens so the citizens because nobody hangs out at city hall no regular citizen goes to city hall unless you need a building permit so how would somebody in any town across america know how their public officials act this guy could be a bully i don't want to bully running my city you know what i mean i don't want to slapping old ladies down

or or not you know providing services to old ladies because for some reason he's just got a bias against old ladies or whatever having now, but people don't realize this because there's no interactions, right? So I've had more interactions with police than most people will have 70 years of their life, right? And I can see because of those interactions how these people act and what they think and what they know. People doing what they're supposed to be doing should not have a problem with, you know, I know that, you know, if I'm committing a crime or I was running a

scam, I want it hidden. Right, absolutely. But if you want, if you want to see me do a, put together a more, a legitimate mortgage, I have no problem with that. Here's the W-2s that they gave me, the pay subs to this, I'll show you how the whole thing whole thing put together, how I package

the package, how I send it off to underwriting, how it gets approved, how you create a closing statement, how you go to closing, no problem. If I'm manufacturing document, close the door lock it it's all you know under the radar absolutely i don't want anybody saying that absolutely so it's the same it's the same thing with any type of public officials that if you're doing everything by the book then you should have no problem with me watching you or videoing it or putting it up on youtube or tic-tok or anything no instagram whatever right yeah because you're not

doing anything wrong right what's the problem right you're showing how efficient you are how you're doing everything correctly then that shouldn't be an issue um well hey is there anything you feel like we haven't talked about no i don't think so i think we've covered pretty much the gamut um we've gotten through my arrest what auditing is and you know i just i i caution people um and and again i want to say that that that is one of the drawbacks to society is is not understanding how we think right you know what i mean and and and our beliefs and stuff like that like when people come to me and they say hey i'm intelligent you know because a lot of people online they come to me say oh you're wrong you know and i'm like well how do you know i'm wrong oh because i'm intelligent there's one

question i ask people that'll prove if they're intelligent or not and that question is what filters every piece of information that comes into your brain what what filters that okay and people 99.9% in the time they don't have an answer to that question and so if we don't know what filters information coming into our brain how do we know that the information that we're getting into our brain is the right information right because it could be filtering out truth and leaving nothing but lies right which is what we have going on now and the answer to that question and another question that's similar to it is what controls every action human being does it's the same answer beliefs what you believe psychologists call them belief glasses which is why witnesses eyewitnesses are so unreliable because you got two people they see the same thing but they have two different sets of beliefs so me and you were walking by an alley I'm not going to use you because the other person is going to be a racist but me and another person we're walking by an alley right and we see an old white lady she's down on the ground she's

bloody and we see a black man above her and he's got his hand extended the racist is going to automatically say this guy's fucking beating that lady right whereas the non-race is going to say maybe he's helping her up yeah maybe just all right right maybe he was there 30 seconds before you guys walked by and walked down the alley to help her exactly you don't know and and the only thing that separates that is what the persons believe and that's and what happens is is in school the the government pounds what's known as core beliefs into our brain right early on and one of those core beliefs is that the government is there to protect us right for us by us you know they can never hurt us and that's where that's where the the the bootlicking I guess you could say

the authority non-questioning comes into it because from from long ago it's always been in my brain that the government's there to help us so i can't believe that these guys are going to do wrong to me and and that's where we're at today that's that's why people you know even though they see all this stuff that's going on that's why they they still don't believe it and they still you know oh well blah blah blah i like uh ronald regan said the most frightening words ever uttered were i'm from the government i'm here to help you exactly i mean i've actually had a guy he called me up from south Carolina he got arrested he told me the story you got saw the video and he goes will you tell my dad that and I got on the phone with his dad and his dad says well you know yeah you told me this

and you told me that I'm going to wait to hear what the cops say this is your son right you know what I mean this is a guy that your son knows that knows a little bit about what's going on right but still you're going to wait for that person and authority to tell you what you want to hear And that's why in all my videos, when the cops do know the law, when they tell the folks the law, then, oh, okay, yeah, he's allowed to record here now. Yeah. Because the officer said it. Yeah. But anybody else could have told them that, me, another customer, anybody.

And they won't believe it. I've been locked up. I've been locked up with too many cops to know that they're all telling the truth. Like, I mean, I've been locked up where it, you lied for, I, listen, what's his last name was, Junier. we call them junior um he was locked up he was on the in hillsborough county i'm sorry hillborough county what's sorry in Atlanta Georgia he was on a um on a the drug task force kind of they called them they had a some kind of name they called them and uh they were doing no knock warrants and this was probably 15 years ago no more like 18 years now so for 10 years

years they'd been robbing drug dealers for 10 years now they're arresting them too periodically they're arresting bad guys but every once while they're just robbing somebody you know and one day they arrested a guy who had some you know crack on them let's say and the guy they said would you buy it and he randomly gave them an address you they go you give us an address because he had cash and they said where'd you get this do they have any cash? And he said, yeah, yeah, it's a drug house. They got a ton of cash in it. And they said, well, let you go if you give us the address.

He gives them the address. Okay. So then they've got the address now. And it's in a bad neighborhood. So they then turn around and they go to what's called like a certified informant. Somebody that has consistently given them good information and that their word alone is worth getting a no-knock warrant. Yep.

So they go to him and they give him the address and they say, You're going to sign this affidavit so that we can get a no-knock warrant for this address. We already arrested a guy. He told us where it's from. You need to say that you consistently bought drugs from that for us. Now, you didn't have a wire or anything. Here are the dates. Like they had it all just signed.

He goes, okay, they then go to the judge. They give it to the judge. Judge says, okay, I'll sign off on it. He signs off on it. They then go and they kick in the front door. Now, it takes them a little bit to kick it in. It's got bars on it. It's a bad, bad neighborhood.

So they have to rip the, rip the bars off the door, kicking it. And while they're kicking in it, boom, boom, boom, boom. It takes a little bit. They kick it in. They've never screamed police or anything else. They kick in the door. The 70, 75-year-old retired school teacher that lived in the house, pulled her gun, and started firing when they kicked in the front door, shot Junior in his vest, and then one

through the top of the vest through his shoulder and he unloaded his gun in her and killed her all she'd done was lived her and raised three or four kids didn't make a lot of money retired as a school teacher and was sound asleep in her bed one night because they were used to robbing drug dealers so they went in they shot her they searched the house they realized oh my god there's no drugs here so then they plant drugs there and they say that they we broke in she was holding drugs for something like they try and come up with this story um uh what is it uh the people that look over them uh i'm gonna say a or what is it uh internal affairs thank you i i a sorry internal affairs comes in the story quickly starts breaking down because the neighbors in the neighborhood come out

and say are all going oh they're nuts that woman does not sell drugs she nobody goes into that she's only got a couple kids that are still alive they come every couple of months we know everything there's cameras in the neighborhood like it's breaking down quick junior who killed her immediately goes to the FBI and says I'll work with you to help bust all the other guys we've been we've been robbing drug dealers for over 10 years and he worked with the FBI and all them his whole squad we're talking about like six to eight guys all of them had been robbing drug dealers for over 10 years. Yep.

And so had he, I remember Jr. got five or six years in federal prison. His state, the murder charge, got run concurrently with it. So it was run at the same time. And he was only going to end up doing like four years on the murder. And he bitched the whole time he was there about how he had an agreement where he was only supposed to get like three or four years. and they ended up giving him six and he was going to do four and he was complaining the whole time and I was like bro you kicked in some old lady's door and shot her and he goes she shot me and I was like she was a retired school teacher defending her own right and he was like uh we we had an address

I go an address from a drug dealer I mean from a drug addict that you didn't double check you didn't double check you didn't know any like what like I mean bro I mean come on man and he he just you don't understand no I do understand I understand you're a scumbag. You don't want to admit it. And you and all your other guys are scumbags. And that was just one time from one department, little department, that got caught and only got caught because it went bad.

How many guys go 20 years and never get caught? I met other guys that were just consistently robbing drug dealers constantly. I can't tell you how many Mexicans I know that got pulled over in Georgia. that I was locked up with that would say this, they would get patted down and they'd find, let's say, some meth on them. For example, I don't know, sometimes it's heroin, whatever. A little bit of heroin. Well, here's the problem in the federal system.

You get so much heroin or meth or whatever that it may be. And let's say they catch you with $20,000 and the meth. What's not, it's not for usage. It's too much for usage. So now it's distribution. They will convert the money into the drug. So now you didn't get caught with just this. much now it's this much and that's what you're being convicted you're being um charged with like a

kilo like your little quarter kilo just turn into a whole kilo because of the money right the cops would say look you got 20 20 thousand dollars if i turn in the 20 000 this is what's going to happen you're going to get a 10 year mandatory minimum if i turn in 8000 you'll only get a 5 year do you want me to keep the 12 you want me turn in the 20 or 8 and they go no man turn in 8 turn an 8 turn in they'd go okay and they take the 12 and they just keep it yeah distributed amongst their buddies yeah they were happy like they were thank god that cop that's to them that's a great cop yep yeah so i mean listen i could go on and on and on with the corrupt cops that i've met and the corruption that they were doing and the thing about all of them was they were like oh it's everywhere

they're all we're all doing so not everyone but they were like oh no no this guy in the department this guy this guy this guy that this has been happening like there's tons of guys doing little tiny things i'm not saying all cops are corrupt but i'm saying that you know the opportunity presents itself it's hard it's hard it's yeah yeah you know what i mean i've got i've got a family right i want a boat i want a house i want a vacation so for you to sit there and think what i'm saying is like for me to sit there and think that you know oh they would never lie like let's just bro it's it's just it's way more common and here's the thing in some aspects i'm sure they're good cops in the In some ways, they probably do a lot of good.

But guess what? You're also corrupt. And you can't have that guy on the force. That's what I said. You know, he's probably a great husband. Right. But he can't be a cop. Just because the guy rescues a kitten from a tree right before he violates my rights does not make him a good cop.

Right, right. You know what I mean? So, and you said Atlanta, the federal prison in Atlanta? Well, no, no, this, okay, I was in Atlanta, but I wasn't in federal prison in Atlanta. I was in the U.S. Marshal's holdover, and also, like Jr., the guy I talked to him, I met him when I was in Coleman. But he was from Atlanta, Georgia. Okay, okay, because I was going to say, I audited that federal prison in Atlanta. I audited it.

It's funny, too, because it's scary looking, right? Oh, my God, it's gothic looking, you know? And, of course, I've been in that one in the holdover. We couldn't, you know, get past the fence. We were outside or whatever. So we walked around outside. They ended up calling the cops, and we were across the street at the gas station when the cops showed up. We were getting ready to leave. We didn't think no cops were coming.

Well, these cops pull up and they, well, what are you guys doing here? Well, we got a call. Well, we got a call, too. What did you get a call about? I said, well, there's guys inside the prison. They called me. I don't know how they got a cell phone, but they called our hotline. And they said there's Eighth Amendment violations, cruel than usual punishment going on in there. So we thought we'd come by and check it out. Oh, they were confused, brother. How did they call you? How do you know? Were you in there? It's so funny. your department. But we gave it right back to him. I said, why are you here? Well, we got a call. Well, so did we.

They don't like it. All right. Yeah. We're good. I love it. All right. Well, I appreciate you making the drive. Oh, absolutely. No problem at all. Hey, I appreciate you guys watching. And if you like the video, do me a favor. Hit the subscribe button. Hit the bell so you get notified videos like this. Definitely share the video because that really, really does help. And leave a comment in the comment section. Also, we're going to leave George's links in the description box. So try and go to his channel and check out his video, share his videos, and definitely subscribe to his channel. Really do appreciate you guys watching. Thank you very much and see you.