Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - His Final Interview Before 16 Years Behind Bars

Episode Date: April 15, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 They found 48 shellcation on the outside of my door. Has anybody screamed police? Nobody has said anything yet. No crime was committed in that house. So how can you just come and kick my door down? And now I gotta go do 16 years. Well, I wasn't doing nothing wrong. My thing is, I know the cop.
Starting point is 00:00:15 I rode motorcycles with him, this something before this happened. I bought him lunch. They won't let me fight it. And the same judge that signed the warrant is my trial judge. That seems like a conflict of interest. People say wrong place, wrong time. How is it wrong place? I was in my bed, sleep where I was supposed.
Starting point is 00:00:30 to be. I'm a little depressed for you. I'm depressed myself. I wake up every day thinking about it. My name's Nelson Fizarro. I was born in Yarkers, New York, 1982. My mother was, at first, was a stay-at-home mom. My father went to jail when I was around eight or nine years old, right around 89, 90. He caught a Fed case. He wound up doing 10 years. He came on when I was, he came in He came home when I was a senior high school. Yeah, I was thinking, oh, he went away for six months, but no, it's a dead case. Yeah, he came home when I was a senior high school. What happened with your mom and now, you know, like, you're without a girl.
Starting point is 00:01:12 So my mother, who's the most official lady I've ever met in my life. She stood, she did the whole time, my father. Every day. We never missed more than 30 days. So she wound up getting a job in a bank first. She started working in a bank. right before my father went away just because she wanted to work. And she had always worked when we were younger because we didn't have money.
Starting point is 00:01:39 So she wound up being a stay-on mom later on when we moved to standout. And then she started working right before my dad got locked up. She was a teller in a bank. Then when my father got locked up, she wound up being a secretary at some office. and then it was hard on her to get us to him because he's so far. So she wound up getting a job in the airlines for, at the time, Continental Airlines, so that she can get flying privileges so that we could fly to him because you fly for free,
Starting point is 00:02:13 but it's Istanbul. So for 10 years, we never missed, never went longer than 30 days. And that was whether we had to drive 10 hours, waiting, waiting the airport, for two, three days because all the flights are full. We fly standby. She did what she had to do to make sure that we saw that man. We never went longer than 30 days. Sometimes it was twice in a month, but we never went longer than 30 days without seeing.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Okay. What happened when he came home? He came home. Did something happen between then? I mean, you're getting in trouble or not? No, no, no. I didn't get in trouble until I got to college. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:54 So I went to Catholic school my whole life. I graduated high school, Catholic school. Okay. My older brother was in the streets. Me and my younger brother were definitely not in the streets. We weren't even allowed outside. Like, my father would ground us from jail on the phone. Like, I would never want to sneak out.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I've never cut a class in high school. I don't even know what it feels like to cut a class in high school. I played basketball. My father came home right around my senior year. He went to the house first. And he went back. to doing whatever he did. He wound up, I remember I wasn't going to go to my senior prom because I don't care about
Starting point is 00:03:33 stuff like that. And he wound up getting me the big stretched hummer. Now, the mileage is in 2000 for just me and my date. Is that you want to go to the prom? I'm going to send you right. And he got me a stretch tumor just for me and my date. But he always encouraged us school. Like that was his thing.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Go to school, go to school, go to school, do whatever to school. I wanted to be a lawyer, actually. So I played basketball. I went to a school that's closed down now. It's called a Green Mountain College in Pulteney, Vermont. I redshirted there, and I went to a college, American International College, in Massachusetts. That was my first brush with the law. I got in trouble for having a gun.
Starting point is 00:04:16 This is in Springfield, Massachusetts. Okay. The only reason I had the gun was because it was me and one of my teammates. He's from Tarrytown. Larry Gibbs. Actually, he turned out to be, he's a cop in Texas now. All right. We were smoking weed on the side block next to the school,
Starting point is 00:04:38 and there was some drunk kids throwing bottles out the window, and they hit a car. The car backed up and pulled up on us and hopped out and pulled that gun on both of us. Are you throwing bottles in my car? And I'm like, nah, we were just over here smoking. We didn't do anything. We know who y'all are And left
Starting point is 00:04:57 And the next time I seen him I had a gun on me And he wound him running and telling That I had a gun on me So I got in trouble for that I want him getting kicked out of school I came home When I came home
Starting point is 00:05:14 I went to the streets I didn't know nothing else Me being stupid thinking I could do What my friends are doing at the time I went to the streets I started selling drugs Well, how much for the gun? What happened with the gun?
Starting point is 00:05:27 What happened with the gun was, I had a lawyer up there named Vincent Bonjourney. Okay. And on a technicality, he got me like a federal, because up there a gun charge of the Fed case, he got me a federal ACD. Basically, don't get in trouble for six months. Okay. So I came home and I was like, I'm going to streets. I told my mom, I'm going to the streets.
Starting point is 00:05:52 And I moved out of her house. slept in cars. I slept at my cousin's house. Whatever. I didn't want to do nothing. And I could always go home to my mother's house forever. My mom is the most official lady ever. And I went to the streets. You say you went to the streets. What does that mean? Started selling drugs. Okay. Started selling drugs. Trying to figure it out. Messing money up, being broke. And then I started doing really well. What'd your dad say? Does he know? He's got to know. At the time, he was at the time, he had caught another case. He was in the feds. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:25 When I went to go see him, he caught a case the day, this is how crazy the feds are, the day he signed out on federal probation, he caught a case. They violated him. They said, we're violating you for going out the country. He went to Dominican Republic like 17 times. He was like, all right. It took him into custody. He takes his jewelry off because he's like an 80s, 80s gangset.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Like he repeat $2,000, $3,000 suits. shoes, like that was his thing. P.J. Watch, pinky ring. So he goes and later sign out like a real big shot. And he volley. So he comes back the next day to get his jewelry and stuff or a couple days later whenever we were. And the P.O. was like, oh, you're not going nowhere. We're locking you back up. You got a new case, money laundering in Puerto Rico. So he wanted to catch another case. He's fighting the case. He wants to get two years for that case.
Starting point is 00:07:20 They sent him before this. I went to Fort Dix to go see him and I told him I was selling drugs At this time, by this time, I was doing well selling drugs So I actually went to ask him like for advice Right He walked off the visit He what? He laughed
Starting point is 00:07:39 He walked off the visit He said, I don't know I'm out I'm not condoning that I'm this, there's nothing hell no No Figure it out yourself You figured it out this fault
Starting point is 00:07:50 figured out yourself and he walked off the visit okay so um what did you think was going to happen you thought he was you know here's how you do it or you got it's what you i thought he was yeah i thought he can't if it's you'd see if it seemed like he's not in a position to judge you but he's super just disappointed he was hoping better for you he was definitely hoping better for me you ever heard that term and he paid so much money for my lawyer in in um massachusetts Have you ever heard the phrase or the term or whatever, your father is the only man alive that will want you to do better than him? Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Absolutely. So he never wanted this life for us. Like his thing was, I was the first person of my family to go to college. So I'm saying. So he walked out to visit. So I wound up catching another gun charge in Staten Island because I'm from. standout. So when I caught the other gun charge and stand out, I'm fighting a gun charge, fighting a gun charge. I want to be in probation for the gun. The judge says, don't let me see
Starting point is 00:09:00 you in front of me ever again. I'm giving you a shot. I had a chance to go play basketball in Puerto Rico, some pro basketball stuff. She's like, I'm giving you a shot. Get out of here, do so much in life. Three months later, I get caught in a conspiracy for doing somebody in favor. How's that? You had to do with me? So. So I was selling drugs at the time, but the person who I was getting the drugs from wasn't from saying, I had a friend of a friend. This is how my life been going since it the back then. At a friend of a friend who was getting drugs off of me, the person who I usually get it from wasn't around. Well, I can wait.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Me personally, I can wait. He was like, yo, I really need it. So I called somebody that I knew that would have it that I never get from ever. It's the first time I'm ever dealing with him. And the day I went up getting the drugs, my dude, the drugs in the car is only the kid that's in the car with me. They were watching the guy that I bought it from for two years. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:06 And I caught a case. They stopped me. They knew what was there because the phones were tapped. And the kid that was in a car with me told on me saying that they were my drugs. When it was on phone tap saying that, listen, these are his, they're going away. Everything. It was all his. I had that and money in the car.
Starting point is 00:10:20 The money was mine and drugs. I didn't want to tell on the guy, so I want him getting six years. I fought it for two years, and I want him getting six years. Were you on bond for the two years? No, because I was on probation for the gun. Okay. So once I got the probation violation, it was over. So you already got two years in?
Starting point is 00:10:41 So I got two years in. On six? On six, nonviolent at the time. This is when they just changed the laws where you're doing eight months to a year on merit. Is that the third? I go up north. I do another two and a half. I come on my working lease.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I'm in working lease, doing my thing, working. I'm working for my father now. He owned the pallet warehouse. And I came home already. He started doing the right thing. He was doing some truck and stuff. And he owned a pallet warehouse that refurbish pallets and sold pallets. So I was working there.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I actually almost cut my hand off there. I hurt myself or whatever. So I'm working there with him. And then I had lose my overall. because I made it back to the facility late. It's Lincoln in Manhattan. So I'm dealing with that. A cousin of mine gets locked up. He's like my brother. I go to see him in Rikers Island. While I'm in work with these, I go to see him on Rikers Island. Are you not allowed to do that? I had done it two or three times before. As long as you don't get in trouble, it's not like I didn't
Starting point is 00:11:48 see an issue with it. I'm really just going to see it. As long as you don't get caught. I mean, yeah, as long as you don't get caught going to see him, which, what am I? To me, what would I get caught doing? I'm like, I'm just going to see him. Right. It's during my timeout, I'm just going to see him. I go to see him. We sat down.
Starting point is 00:12:08 C.O. comes out the back, and they found a balloon of drugs that was on the floor. Right. They go back. I don't even know what the hell happened. They go back in the back. We're sitting down, three minutes. They said, you two, get up. I was with his wife.
Starting point is 00:12:20 When are you going to go to him for? They take me in the office. Like, oh, you came to passing drugs. I didn't pass nobody, no drugs. I don't know what you're talking about. These cameras here, get the footage. It's like, I'm going to work release. They let her go, lock me up.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I fight that case for 16 months. I'm telling her for 16 months, like, yo, just get the cameras. Just get the cameras. Just get the camera. I want to fighting it. I want to beating it because I didn't do it. Right. The case gets dismiss and seal,
Starting point is 00:12:50 but I'm in Rikers this whole time because I'm still a state inmate, I don't have no bond again. They send me up north because you're still on that. I'm still on that sixth flat bit. They send me up north. I'm real close on my CR. I beat the ticket. So they didn't take away no good time.
Starting point is 00:13:05 As soon as I beat the ticket a week later, I'm home, less than a week later, I'm home. They let me out. I come home. I'm on five years per row now. So from the sixth flat. Right. I'm on five years per row. So I come home thinking,
Starting point is 00:13:23 I'm broke for a minute. You know what? Let me. Dibble and dabble. Doing whatever. Yeah. No, I'm lying. When I first came home,
Starting point is 00:13:35 my cousin used to play for the Green Bay Packers. I started doing sports marketing with him. I don't even know how this happened. I went out there to visit him because I wasn't doing nothing else at home. I went out there to visit him in sports marketing. This lady came Stacy. She wound up like taking a liking to me. She's like, you know, do you want to do you want to do?
Starting point is 00:13:53 job and I was like, no, I don't want him. Oh, do you want a job? I don't want a job. I don't want a job because that's my because he's like my best friend. I call him my cousin. Because he's my cousin. I don't want, I don't like that nepotism, fable to him stuff. I get it out. So she wanted to get him to ask me, like, yo, why don't you take the job? You have nothing to do with me. Right. You'd be good at the job. I want him doing real good at the job. And for one reason, another, the firm closed down. I came home. So now I'm doing fairly well for myself, money wise. Now, after, after after the sports marketing, but I have to figure something else out.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Like, what am I doing now? Like, I'm just sitting home. My brain gets to working. You know what? Let me, me dibble and dabbling. Right. So I start dizzling dabbling, doing what I got to do. All the time, staying low, staying out the way,
Starting point is 00:14:43 it's making my moves. I'm doing better and better. I'm working. I have a job that I'm doing stuff for cars. So I'm doing that And I'm doing whatever on the side I'm still on parole now Parole comes to my house
Starting point is 00:15:04 I got like Six months Five months left on parole From doing the whole five years The only violation I had was For ride on my dirt bike That's it They come to my house
Starting point is 00:15:17 Because I had friends that were upstate And I had sent them food packages So I sent them food packages It was nothing illegal in the packages It was pictures, food, sneakers, money, magazines. And I'm a person I don't like pictures. I was raised by my father who was from the 80s. Don't take no pictures.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Leave me out of pictures, leave me out of videos, leave me out of all that shit. And they wanted to find in parole came to my door, knocked on my door because the sergeant at the facility sent the pictures of me and Miami for my birthday a year prior to him. I have my gold chain on, I have watch on, and they show up in my house. I was standing on a couch and live with ticket tape, you know, little white ticket tapes. The sergeant said they looked like Coke bags. So he sent them to my parole officer.
Starting point is 00:16:11 My parole officer comes to my house, knocks on the door, let them in. You guys want coffee? It was like, it was four of them. You guys want coffee? It was like, now, put your hands behind your back. For well. So it's a normal home. I said, this ain't a normal home.
Starting point is 00:16:26 I've been on pro four years. Like, what do we do? You don't send four people to, yeah, four people don't show up. The four people's never been to my house. Right. Okay. I have forgot that I left some drugs on my counter in a black, in a Tupperware, in a black plastic bag, that I never keep no drugs in my house.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Usually I'll take it to where I got to go the night before. I don't, I don't never go to sleep at the time with drugs in my house ever. So they find it. Okay, let's go down. Lock me up. They locked me and my girl up. Let's go down. They said it was cocaine.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Okay. By the time I got to court, now it was heroin. So they made a lot of mistakes, but they didn't want to let it go. I wound up getting four flat for that. How old are you by this point? By this point, this is 2014. So I'm 32. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Right before my, right before I turned 32. I go, do my time. Well, I had a violation first, time served 90. I came on, I'm fighting it. I'm fighting it. I'm taking it to trial. In order to get my girl out of trouble at the time, I told them, listen, I'll take a plea. You know, I'm going to beat it at trial.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I'm going to take a plea, but you have to dismiss and seal the case against my girlfriend. That's the only way I'm taking the plea. So if it doesn't start there, you know, I'm going to be. We're going to try. They want to dismissing the sale on her case and giving me four flat. I stayed home like another almost two years before I actually did the time. I was out on beer. So I just kept having my lawyer push it back.
Starting point is 00:18:13 You know what I push back. Oh, okay. So maybe it was crowded or something. I'm not ready to go. I'm not ready to go. You got to pay law. You could like kind of, I need to set stuff up. And as long as you're doing, you're not getting in no trouble outside.
Starting point is 00:18:25 They know you're going to do the time anyway. So I go in. I get four flat. Now, this is the time when they had just changed the shock loads. In New York, you can go to shock. At first, it was you had to be three, you had to be under 35 years old. You had to have three years or under to your conditional release date. And they send you to the shock program.
Starting point is 00:18:46 You heard of shock program? It's like a boot camp. Yeah. So they changed it to the age is now like 50. And you can be, you can have felonies prior and you can have done state. time prior, but it was never like that. They just was certain, like violent, a lot, most violent families, they don't accept. They have to be nonviolent, certain this, certain that. I qualify. I go to Gawanda first because I had to do a few more months before I was eligible time on it.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I go to Gawanda first. Then I go to shock. Shock changed my life. I never, ever want to be spoken to in my mind that I never ever want to go through this again. I never want to be spoken to like this again. The stuff they put you through up there is I'm talking about 30 second showers for the first two and a half months, three months and you have to share a shot with somebody. Eight minutes to eat. Eight minutes to get to get ready in the morning. And this is 45, 50 people in the dorm. Everybody has to be ready in under eight minutes. And that's Getting dressed to whatever outfit of the day is so you can go to PT. That's getting your cube inspection ready.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Everything has to be the way it's supposed to. I never wanted to go to that ever. So I said, listen, I don't know what I'm going to do when I get home, but I know what I'm not going to do when I get home. If I figured that out, I could figure something else out. So that was my home mentality the whole time in shock. Like, you have clearings every Saturday, and you would sit in a circle, and the council would come in every Saturday night,
Starting point is 00:20:22 and they would ask you how you're feeling. It's six months. Once you get into a Patoon, it's six months. The whole six months, every single clearing, my clearing was the same. How are you doing? My name is M.A. Pizarro, and I'm feeling miserable. Now, by the end, the council was like, listen, you've been here in six months and you're still miserable. You're about to go home in two weeks.
Starting point is 00:20:44 I used to miserable. I said, I need this misery because I don't never want to feel like this again. I don't want to forget how this feels when I go on the outside. So I need to be miserable here. It's not a bad miserable. It's a, for all intents and purposes, a good miserable, because I'm never. Never going to forget this. Never going to forget this.
Starting point is 00:21:01 I mean, you have to run, we ran 10 miles a week. No, no. We ran 667 miles into six months that I was there. We was a running platoon. We was in the hardest platoon on the compound. I mean, they put you do some shit. So I did that. I graduated.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I did well. Didn't get in no trouble in there. And I'm not the type to get in trouble anyway. I don't have a problem with authority. Come home and I'm like, I don't know what I'm going to do, but I know what I'm not going to do. And I want to be in a garbage man, private sanitation, making dirt money. I was making $17 an hour. This is in 2018.
Starting point is 00:21:43 $17 an hour. And I got the job because the guy before we died, he got crushed with a container because the driver's an asshole. Yeah, it's crazy. You work 14 to 16 hours and they're trying to hurry up and get the route done. So you're, imagine garbage trucks. going over the, and it's two, three in the morning, there's no cars. I'm going over the dividers, whether it's rain or whether it's snow, whatever it is. And a really good friend of mine, whose dad is a really good friend of mine as well, Italian guy.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I was always respected by a lot of the Italian people from Staten Island because I went about my, whatever I had to do, I went about it myself. You couldn't tell what I did unless you know what I did. Right. Super respectable. I'm super humble everything. So he sees me in the back of the other. he works in construction now.
Starting point is 00:22:30 He does, he's a machine operator. He's been at like 15 years or whatever the case. Maybe. So he sees me on the back of the truck on night. And he's like, nephew, you working still? And I'm like, yeah, my idea, I've been home like three months then. And he had told his son like, yo, he ain't going to last. He's too used to getting a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:22:49 He's not going to last for that shit. Three months later, he sold me on the back of the truck. It was pouring that night. And I say, yeah. he was going to work. The month and a half later, he saw me again, and it was freezing outside. It was snowing, hailing.
Starting point is 00:23:07 I'm on the bag of the truck doing my thing. He called me up the next day, and he was like, don't go back to work. I'm like, well, he's like, I got you a job. I got you into a union. You got a raise. I'm like, what? So at the time, I'm making $17,000 an hour.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Right. So what did you raise to? 20-something. I'm like, we're talking for like 15 minutes, 20 minutes. I'm like, you didn't have to do that. He's like, know I've seen that you're not going back to because you could have been stopped doing this shit and just want to start getting money.
Starting point is 00:23:35 I said, how much am I making? Does I go 48? It was 48, 28 28. All right. Now we're doing something. So we got a union. What's the union for? What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:23:49 In 10, I was working in asphalt and concrete. I was doing the asphalt on the streets. Okay. Where they rip up a couple of inches of the streets. Yeah. Yeah. So I started doing that. And then I got in good in that because I learned how to work the machine, the small machine that actually rips the street up.
Starting point is 00:24:06 So I'm going there busting my eyes, working my eyes. So COVID hits. What am I doing now? Working there for a little bit. It slowed down a lot. So you know what? My credits have very decent. I got a little bit of money.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Let me go rent some cards. I got two cards and I started renting them out. Started making a nice amount of money doing that. a nice amount of money. And I'm figuring my way. So from two cars, I went to four cars. Then I had a couple of other friends cars. You know what?
Starting point is 00:24:40 If you want, you can rent these out two. We'll make it. So I'm doing my thing. In the interim, I'm doing property management. My cousin asked me if I wanted to be a property manager. So I do that. We wind up. I started with his house in Jersey when I used to play football.
Starting point is 00:24:55 I started with his house in Jersey. He lived in Englewood Cliffs. He had a mansion in the Inglewood Cliffs. So I managed that for like a year Then He bought land in Toulon, Mexico With two other partners And he built a compound on it
Starting point is 00:25:11 So he hits me one day He's like, yo I need a favor So you want to move to Tulum I'm like Yeah, why not? What do you need? He's like, I want you to oversee the construction of the house By this time I'm off parole I got off parole in 2019, I maxed out
Starting point is 00:25:28 So I went to Toulouloon vacation because he was out there already when he came back a few months later that's when he asked me like oh do you want to I'm like yeah why not I go do it and I moved to Touloun for almost three months I saw the construction of the house from
Starting point is 00:25:42 when it was the foundation wasn't even there until they started pulling the the ceilings because everything is concrete out there yeah 4,800 square feet huge pool it's a it's a compound
Starting point is 00:25:55 probably worth like almost maybe a little over three million dollars right now we were going to do that and then get some more land. It was for Jiu-Jitsu. They were going to do like seminars for like famous Jiu-Jitsu instructors go out there, rent the house. We were going to do one bed, one and two-bedroom, Airbnbs on it. And do like a, they do the jihitsu retreats and all that.
Starting point is 00:26:18 So that was what it was gearing towards, but they had to do the main house first. I come back home. I started a concierge service with a partner moms. So we're doing black car pickup. I bought two escalates. And now we're doing black car pickups. So everything's picking up for me little by little. I'm doing super well.
Starting point is 00:26:36 I don't have a care or worry in the world. At the same time, cannabis is about to start being legal. They just legalize it. They talk about giving the licenses and stuff. So I'm always thinking. I'm always working. You know what? I'm going to open up in a smoker's lounge, but it's $420 friendly.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I wanted to model it after the Italian cigar balls. in Staten Island. So I get that up and going. In the interim, a friend of mine that I see every day. He comes, he wakes up, he comes over my house in the morning after he drops his daughter off. He smoke a blunt. We play the game. We played Matt and all zombies or whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:17 And once he leaves for the day, he leaves for the day. He has a house. He has his own house. He has his own family. He gets into it one night with his wife. Calls me up. It's like one in the morning, probably 12 something. and had a penthouse apartment on standing out at the time
Starting point is 00:27:34 and he's like yo I can't I can't do it no more so now I said come over smoke a blunt he had got into a fight with her and she disrespected him by and even put her hands on him in front of his daughter and all that in front of our family that was at the house he's like y'all just can't do it no more
Starting point is 00:27:52 so I'm like you know what were you going to stay tonight he's like I don't even know said look stay here I go stay to grow up I had two-bedroom apartment. I said, stay here. One of the bedrooms didn't have anything in it. I come back the next day. Do you figure out what you're going to do yet?
Starting point is 00:28:10 Nah, I said, well, until you, because he had just bought a house in Jersey, until you figure out what you're going to do and get on your feet, put a bedroom in an extra bedroom, and you can stay here. I'm never here. I'm between, at the time I'm going to L.A.,
Starting point is 00:28:23 I'm in New York. I'm never home. And it helps me out too, because I have a dog. He can watch a dog. All right. He stayed there for a couple months. At that same time, I had gotten the house at this incident that we're leading up to Apple.
Starting point is 00:28:41 When I get the house, I had rented that house before. Funny enough, that's the house that I got locked up in when I got caught in 2014. Okay. The landlord called me and offered it to me again because I was only there for like two months when I got locked up in 2014. And I absolutely loved that outfit. So when he offered it to me again, I said, absolutely. I was going to rent that house for a year and then buy a house in Jersey. So I said, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:29:06 So I get it. And what I do when I get houses, apartments, everything, I do everything the way I want it before I move in. Before I put the furniture in, I paint, run wires through the walls. Whatever you're going to do, get it in there now, and let's get it out the way. So I do that for a couple months. And then a friend of mine who's a boxer used it for training kit. He fought an enticing fury on the card that year. He moved out.
Starting point is 00:29:28 I move in. At the same time that I move in, I tell him, like, I'm like, listen, it's a three-bedroom house. I know I'm not going to be stuck with you. If you want, come stay at the crib, put it, what I'm saying, it's three bedrooms. And work it out. I'm never home, bro. He comes over there.
Starting point is 00:29:44 So he's staying at the house for maybe two months, too, a little over two and a half months when this incident happened. So I'm sleeping night. I still play basketball. So I had went, I played basketball, and I blew my knee out. I went to, I had to do something in LA. I went to LA. I came back because I had to get an MRI rib. The specialist is only there on Mondays.
Starting point is 00:30:11 That Monday that I came back was Martin Luther King that he wasn't there. So I had to wait to wait to the following Monday. So you know what? I'm not going to fly back to L.A. to fly back. I'll just wait until I get the MRI red and fly back. It's a Wednesday and I have a real estate meeting in Philadelphia. I have my driver because now I have a concierge service. So I have my driver pick me up.
Starting point is 00:30:34 I'm still on crutches. I'm just started using the key. And my driver picked me up. We're going to Philly. I'm supposed to spend the night in Philly. My sister calls me up. She's like, can you pick up your niece? I'm on the turnpike.
Starting point is 00:30:47 I just left. I'm like 30 minutes waiting to stand out. She's like, can your sister? Can you pick up your niece? I say, yeah, what happened? She's like, my father just passed away. And Mike assaulted her. He's one of the greatest guys ever when he was in the hospital.
Starting point is 00:31:00 And I'm like, I'm turning around right now. She's like, where are you at? I'm on a turnip back. I'll be there in 40 minutes. I was like, no, I need somebody to pick her up right now. Where are you going? So I was going to Philly. I got a real estate meet.
Starting point is 00:31:10 She's like, no, I'm going to get somebody to pick her up. I have your mother pick up for something. I said, right, so I'm going to go to Philly. But I'm not going to stay the night. I'm going to come back. I do whatever I got to do in Philly. Come back. I go to her house.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Stayed there a couple hours, pay my condolences. I cry it out, everything. I have my driver taking me back to my house, the house, not the penthouse, the house. I grabbed $20,000. And I go to Fandu in Jersey. I'm at Fandu until about 12th o'clock, like 12, 15. I hit them for like 11,000 and change. Good night.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Casino? What's... Oh, a sport betting. Oh, okay. So it's a good night. I hit them for a little bit of breath. Okay, come back. I make it home a little after one.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Upstairs, my job is like, you need me tomorrow. I said, I don't know. I'll let you know in the morning. Walk in my house. I let my dogs out. my older dog and I had a puppy at the time, let them out. I roll a blunt, they come back in. The puppy peas on the floor.
Starting point is 00:32:14 I put them in the cage. Me and the older dog go upstairs. It's about two in the morning now. I'm on my phone. I hit a girl. I was going to go over a house. And why don't I fall asleep at like 3.30 in the morning. If you sleep hot at night, you know how disruptive that can be.
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Starting point is 00:33:50 He sleeps in the bed. He wakes me up. But he's not growling. And anytime anybody comes by the door, by the house, anything, he balks. He don't like anybody coming by the house. He's supposed to protect. But he's not barking. He's growling. So I think maybe he just heard.
Starting point is 00:34:04 So I'm like, let me go back to sleep. And I lay my head back on the pillow and he starts growling more aggressively. What the fuck is the woman tree? And my first floor is tired. My steps and my second floor is hardwood. So now I hear people coming in my house. Like walking up the steps in my house, a group of people. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:34:25 Andre, I know my friend is there and his daughter has stayed the night because he was taking the school in the morning. So I'm like, maybe I'm bugging. But it sounds like a group of people trying to be quiet, heavy feet. In my mind, I'm not doing nothing in the streets. I haven't done anything in the streets in a while. So why would it be? It was never into my mind that it was police ever. No way.
Starting point is 00:34:48 No way. Right. So I grab a gun. I go to the door and I put my ear to the door. They start whispering on the other side of the door. No, no, no. It's not this door. It's that door.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Hit that door. I cocked a gun loud enough for them to hear it. Loud as hell. And he starts shooting through my door. I shoot back. I get hit. What was that like? Like, I mean, when you hear the first shots, you know immediately,
Starting point is 00:35:18 I mean, it's guns are loud. And it wasn't, it was five people up there. So it wasn't like it was one shot and then wait in no. It was like call of duty. Like I went from sleep to, and I'm still sleeping. Right. This is 30 seconds. from the time they came in my door
Starting point is 00:35:35 to the time that they carried the cop I was 1203 seconds. They got to take a couple of seconds to get upstairs and I'm still on crutch, I'm lipping around. I got to blew my knee out, ACL, MCL, PCL, and LCL. My knee is no good. So I'm limping to the door. So it takes this is 30 seconds after I wake up.
Starting point is 00:35:54 I grabbed the gun from where was at in my bed. I grabbed the click from right on top of a war unit that's right by the door. And I put it in I'm listening. They start shooting so I start shooting back. Mind you, nobody's saying anything.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Nobody's saying anything. I got hit within the first couple shots spun me and sat me down and I slid across the door. So now I start shooting over my shoulder. I'm laying on the floor with my back against the door just shooting with my shoulder.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Still don't know what the fuck is going on in life. I'm out of bullets. I only have five rounds. I get up and I go into my bathroom. So now I look down, my ethical drawers, a T-shirt. I looked down and there's blood pouring down my leg. I got hit in the
Starting point is 00:36:37 right in the front of my, like, growing area. And it came out the back of my thigh. So now I'm trying to process, like, what the fuck is going on? They still shooting through the go. What the fuck is going on? I told myself, you're going to die today. Today's your day.
Starting point is 00:36:54 They're not coming in here to help you out. Today's your day. Does anybody scream police? Nobody has said anything yet. Try to jump on him. All this has happened. In my mind, I'm like, I try to jump on them, do something when they come in the door. So I'm walking back out my bedroom. The bathroom is in my bedroom. I'm walking back out the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And they stopped shooting. And I hear, officer down, officer down. So what the fuck? Officer down. So instead of going to the door, I went to the window, which is opposite of the door. And there's blood of my blind. So when I looked out of the blind, I seen the cops outside. I went and I sat on the foot of my bed and I put my hands up.
Starting point is 00:37:33 I said, I'm sorry. I said, I'm on that I'm hit. I'm on that I'm hit. He said, come in the door, open the door. I said, I'm not coming to that door, but I'm on that I'm hit. He said, come to the door, open the fucking door right now, put your hands out. Go to the door and went to the door, open the door, open the hall. I stepped in the hallway.
Starting point is 00:37:50 The first words out of my mouth when that door got opened. Mind you, this all happened on how to close bedroom door was, I'm sorry, I thought I was getting robbed. Is the cop okay? I asked if the cop was okay from the time that I opened that door all the way until I got to the hospital. I was in the hospital. and still act on the bottom. I didn't ask, am I going to die? I've never been shot before. I never asked, am I going to die? Get me an ambulance. I didn't ask for anything else except for
Starting point is 00:38:13 is the cop okay. I went from thinking I was going to die to wishing I was dead once I heard that it was police. I get to the hospital. I go through the process of the hospital. I get the court. No bail, obviously. I was in the hospital two days. It went in and out. He's had to stop the bleeding. I would court, no bail. Now I'm still trying to piece together. What the fuck is going on? Yeah. Why were the police in your house?
Starting point is 00:38:44 So I wind up, when I got to Rikers, they put me in the same house as my men, a homeboy that was staying with me. Right. There was a, uh, there was a warming out for him because he had a sealed indictment for seven sales that he made to undercover. Allegedly. Okay. And they applied for the warrant for no knock warrants because they thought that the house was his. They never mentioned me in the warrant. They never mentioned me in the application to the warrant to the judge.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Like, listen, there was never no drugs sold out of my house. There was never no drugs found in my house. Ever. In the warrant and I had the application for the warrant. In the warrant, they said, he is, we need a no-knock warrant because cocaine could be easily disposed of. And drug dealers usually keep drugs in place that they can control. And that's where he lives. So that's where he can control.
Starting point is 00:39:42 That's why they got the no knock on it. Nobody never said they saw drugs in the house. Nobody never said that there was drugs in the house. There was no drugs found in the house. There was no sales made out of the house. They said he went to a sale one time from, he got a phone call to make a sale. He left the house one time, went to a sale and then went and did whatever. And on another occasion, he made the sale and then went back to the house.
Starting point is 00:40:03 But there was seven sales. That was the only two times that he went back to the house. where he went the other five times? Where he went to go to five times? He wasn't selling drugs out of my house. And dispose of what? It's not evidence of a crime because he's already indicted. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:17 He's already indicted. Pending arrest, he's already indicted. So it's not like you need the evidence that you're trying to get with a no-knock warrant to further his case. He's already indicted. So how can you get on top of that five cops? No body camera. Aren't they required to have body cameras?
Starting point is 00:40:35 I know as of July, after the Bionna Taylor stuff, as of July of 2021, they're supposed to wear body cameras at all times on any no-knock warrant. The only thing that, and any warrant execute a period. The only thing that's exempt from that is body searches, cavity search. That's the only, that's the only search that's exempt from having a body camera. So I'm in jail now. I'm figuring all this shit out. I don't even know about the Castle Doctrine where you're allowed to be.
Starting point is 00:41:05 protect your home with deadly force in New York. There's only two places in New York where you don't have to retreat in New York. It's not like Florida. You guys got staying your ground. Right. As soon as you feel threatened, you can stay in your ground. In New York, you have the duty to retreat. You have to try to get out of that situation before anything else escalates. The only two places that are exempt to that are your place of business and your home in New York. That's it. There's no self-defense. There's no or none. It's called a castle doctrine. Okay. Okay. So I'm in jail. I got no bail.
Starting point is 00:41:37 I get a high-priced lawyer named Lance Azaro. And I'm calling around a bunch of lawyers, and they're all telling me, now, you're not getting no bill. You're bugging out. A cop got shot this scene. You shot him. You're not getting no bail. Get comfortable.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Lance was like, he was the only one that was like, yeah, I can get you a beer. I said, you sure? He's like, yeah. This is right around a bail reform had just dropped. She's like, I can get you a bill. He went to court. He tried to give me a bill for my regular judge. Judge is not him.
Starting point is 00:42:03 He's screaming at them, turning red. He's like, this is bullshit. He's like, don't worry me to get you a bill. He goes to the appellate division. I get my bail to the appellate division, but they made my bail $5 million with house arrest. At that time, it's the highest bill ever ever made. Well, when I made the bill, the highest bill ever made in the state, not the feds. But he didn't get it lowered?
Starting point is 00:42:27 No, they denied, they denied getting it lowered. I bailed that on a $5 million a bill. What is that lost? I had to give the courts because I went through per, um, partially secured bond so I get the money back. So I had to give them 500,000 liquid and prove where it came from. Right. Then I had to give them $4.5 million in equity in property.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Whoa. So it costing me 500,000 and I had six signatures. Okay. Fighting it, fighting it, fighting it. And then I'm like, I'm going to trial. I'm so big on accountability. If I did something wrong, punish me for what I did. I'm totally okay with you punish me for what I did,
Starting point is 00:43:13 but don't punish me for something that I didn't do. I try to make me out to be a monster. I give back. Like, I just did a turkey drive 320 turkeys. The Thanksgiving before this happened. It's happened January 20th of 2020. Thanksgiving before the 320 turkeys are my own pocket. And I don't advertise it, promote it,
Starting point is 00:43:30 because I don't care. I don't look for the accolades. I do it because even now, I came home. I came home on an angle monitor. I did a back to school on the giveaway. August of 23, 500 book bags, full of supplies, four notebooks, a pack and lucid, two-folders, pens, pads, pencils. We did free food all day. I had 13 raffles, four laptops, four tablets, wireless headphones, a 55-inch TV, a couple of gift cards, $250 gift cards,
Starting point is 00:44:05 free face painting for the kids, free hair. handcuffs for the kids all day. Everything was free. I have a video. I sung it when we get over. And I don't do it to promote. I didn't promote it. Like, look at what I'm doing. Like, I do it because I like to get back. That's what I like to do. That's my thing. So I came home, fighting it. I'm like, I'm going to go to trial. So what's they going to do? You're going to give me 15 years for the gun. I can go to shock with that. I'll be in shock. I'll be home in like five years, six years. I go to trial. I go to pick a jury the day I went to pick a jury. They said, listen, the judge got an open over for you.
Starting point is 00:44:42 18, oh, 16 to 20. The judge? Well, the judge and the DA have an open open open for you. 16 to 20, the judge will probably give you 18 or 19. And you cop out to attempt to murder on police. I said, no, I'm not taking it. So what's the worst that's going to happen? They're going to give me 15 for the gun.
Starting point is 00:44:58 If I blow to anything else, they'll run a concurring. Why would I take 18 and I know I'm going to beat the shooting? Right. Okay, you go inside. I'm going to court room. They tell the judge, well, he doesn't want to take it. The judge goes, why he don't want to take it? It's like, because he's going to beat the shooting.
Starting point is 00:45:15 The judge says, oh, he's probably going to beat the shooting. Even if he beats the shooting, I'm going to max him on the gun. And he has a 54-count indictment. Anything else he blows to, I'm going to max him on that and run it consecutive. So he should take the plea because he'll kick a walk out of it with 30 years, and I'm going to try to put life on the back. So right there in my mind, it's a time. told me like I didn't expect the judge to be lenient but I expected him to be fair right
Starting point is 00:45:41 he looked at this trial and you see that I didn't know they were police I thought I was going to die that morning I take that into account and and like I said I'm not saying get off scot free or show me favoritism just be fair no so to me when I heard that he doesn't care if I'm the one that shot or not because I'm not even the one that shot him a cop back hit in his cab they had to have shot him because it went through his calf sideways But he said he was facing my door. Right. With the shield.
Starting point is 00:46:10 And they didn't say officer down until I had already stopped shooting. I was being stopped shooting. I'm in my bathroom trying to figure out what the hell is going on. How many times did they shoot through the door? 48. 48 times. 48. They found 48 shellcation on the outside of my door.
Starting point is 00:46:25 And I showed you the picture of the door. So, you know, it's not bullshit. Right. So in all this, my thing is I know the cop. I wrote motorcycles with him before this happened. I bought him lunch. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:42 So why would you like be a man about it? Like I wasn't doing anything wrong. I got to see if I was in the street, menacing or so I'm in court. Then he goes, listen. They got it down a 16 flat and I didn't have to cop out to nothing that had to do with police.
Starting point is 00:46:59 I copped out to a regular attempted murder. So they made him a regular person. Okay. Copped out to the attempt. the murder of his name. And that was a 54 condominium. That's the only thing that's when I got 16 flat. Because they won't let me fight it.
Starting point is 00:47:16 And the same judge that signed the warrant is my trial judge. Oh, that seems like a conflict of interest. He shouldn't have signed the warrant to begin with. But they don't, what I think happened, I think they don't want all that to go into the media. They'm not having, especially with the temperature stuff right now, them not having body cameras, me not being on a rowing. If I would have died, it would have been something totally different. Everybody would be rioting and protesting,
Starting point is 00:47:41 Brianna Taylor, this, that the third. But because I lived, now it's basically their word against minds. And they're not, you don't see it in the paper all the time. There's never been a cop in my court day. You spit on a cop up here. And they're in the courtroom every day with supporting, there's never been a cop in my court day. And I don't have no problem with authority.
Starting point is 00:48:02 I have friends that are detectives that still check on me to this day. Like, yo, you all right? that if I'm if I text them well what you're doing you're going to work I'm like we care with the streets is nasty out there like I'm I'm under the same impression as a judge somebody normally should have police it's served to be in chair right what are we talking about it like but that's not the case with me what do you think the judge I mean I don't understand why is the judge why is he so adamant when he knows you he knows you didn't shoot him on purpose or if you shot him at all.
Starting point is 00:48:40 He knows that they were in your house. They weren't saying, or are they saying different? Oh, no, we said police. They said that they announced himself. Well, first, the first reports were that I ran to the door, opened the door, seen it was them, closed my bedroom door, and then started to shunka the door. That was the initial report. Then it got, because I got shot in the same leg that my knee was blown out.
Starting point is 00:49:03 then they found out that my knee was fucked up but I couldn't run. So then it went from that to, oh no, we announced ourselves. The house is a two family split in the middle. So on the upstairs level is my bedroom, a bathroom outside of my bedroom. My bedroom has a bathroom inside of it also. But outside my bedroom is my bedroom, a bathroom.
Starting point is 00:49:26 On the other side of the hole, it's a bedroom and another bedroom that faces my door. So on the other side, it's a mirror image of that house because you know, our two claims are split in the middle. So there's a, my neighbor's a Chinese family. I don't know the kid. I don't know. I don't know the high and by. I'm super cordial.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I don't have no problem with nobody. He, right after the shooting, the police took him to investigate, took him down, questioned him, and they asked them, well, what did you hear? He said, I heard two bangs that sounded like guns. shots. So I get up. He's in the back bedroom in the back of the house, which is adjacent to the bedroom of my friend. He said he walked through the hallway up to the front bedroom, which is adjacent to my bedroom, his parents' bedroom, and he looked out the window and he saw it was cops. That's how, there was cops outside. That's how he knew it was cops. And then the shooting started. They asked him specifically, did you hear any talking or yelling or anything? He said, no, I didn't
Starting point is 00:50:30 hear anything. So if you heard them hit the door, why wouldn't you hear them screaming police like they're saying, oh, we were screaming police, NYPD. They never said anything. And on top of that, what am I, what am I shooting at a cop for? Right. I'm not doing anything wrong. There's no drugs in my house. I'm not in the street no more. It's not like I got 50 kilos in here that I'm trying to protect and I'm going to get life. Where's you're going to get is a pistol in my house that using to protect my house. Like I said, I'm big on accountability. The last time police came in my house,
Starting point is 00:51:07 I opened the door for them asking what they want to call for you. It just doesn't make any sense. What motive do I have to shoot it? Knowing that they're police. But the judge doesn't care. Nobody cares. Nobody cares.
Starting point is 00:51:20 That's what I'm doing. That's why I'm doing this park, isn't it? So you get the plea down to 16 years. 15 flat with five years, post release. So 16 years with And probation after that. Polo.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Yeah. What do you guys call it post release? In New York is post-release supervision. They worded like that for purposes of time. Because before, when it was parole, if you come home and you get locked up and you're inside fighting your parole, whatever the case may be,
Starting point is 00:51:55 and let's say they give you a 90-day, a year violation. that year could count towards your parole. That's why they were to be post-release. Your feet have to be in the street for it to count. So you need to have five years or feet in the street. But they cut it short if you get, if you don't give them no violations.
Starting point is 00:52:15 They give you a merit termination. That's why I got on my last one. I had three years post. And I got off in, no, I have five years in my last one. And I got off in a year. So did you sign, have you signed for it? You took the deal? I took the deal.
Starting point is 00:52:30 I had to. I had to. They said, as soon as you bringing this first juror, the deal's up the table. And I can't beat the judge. If the DA would have said that, I would have still went to trial. Right. But if the judge himself was deciding on what time I get, I can't beat him. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I can't beat him. But you're out now. How long did you sign for? How long ago was this? August 26th. and you're still out. What are you, did you, have you kind of like put it off or?
Starting point is 00:53:06 No, so once you cop out, they have to do a probation report. They have to do a couple of stuff and they give you a couple months to get your affairs in order. Like I saw a doctor's appointment. I have a doctor's appointment coming up in January. I have court in December,
Starting point is 00:53:18 but I have a doctor's appointment in January. So I'm going to see if they can push it back talking about my doctor's appointment because I still want to see my surgeon because I have to get the surgery on my leg when I came on. I have surgery on my shoulder when I came on. So I want to get all that time. taking care of them because I'm going to be up there for 10 more years. Yeah, do you get, you're saying, you keep saying 16 years flat, you don't have any good time?
Starting point is 00:53:42 Yeah, so I took 16 flat. Out of 16, you do 13. You do 160 months. Out of that, I've been on house, I did a year in before I built out, and then I've been on house arrest for two years. So that's 36 months less. So I have to do 124 months. So I got to do 10 years.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Okay. Who's going to take care of your dog? My sister, who took him when I got locked up last time. She didn't want to raise him. I had him when he was five months, and then she had him for the whole 11 and a half months that I was gone. Did you sell, have you, are you selling your properties? Are you? No, those are my cousin's properties. I was just not as you went. So I got shot and my other dog that I had got shot and he died. The bulldog that I rescued. What is your buddy saying about all this? The one you said.
Starting point is 00:54:31 said you ended up what he was like holy shit or was he when he came out the room i'm on the floor already handcuffed when they when they took him out the room he's like yo they just started shooting those are the first words out of his mouth because they was walking him down a step and what else can we say sorry i don't blame him because he didn't do anything in my house right and it's on paperwork that he never sold drugs out of my house they when i say they ransacked that house because they were trying to look for things to try to tie me to any type of drug involvement, anything.
Starting point is 00:55:06 There was nothing in that house. But they violated that house. I'm talking about broke walls down, floors, ceilings, every vent, pulled every vent out. They was looking for anything, for anything. Took all my jewelry, didn't voucher none of my jewelry, took money, didn't vouch, only voucher $87,000 of money that I had an house.
Starting point is 00:55:26 They just, they do what they want. Yeah, I, so. So I had a guy I knew locked up in prison. His name was, his last name was Junior. It was June. They called him Junior. He was in Atlanta. And he was a part of a drug kind of, it's really not a task force, but like a group of guys, right?
Starting point is 00:55:47 Mm-hmm. And they were big on no-knock warrants. And the way they would get the no-knock warrant is they had actually had CIs that were certified C-I's. So this is the same. CI that has helped us in the past get convictions. So his word is certified. It's good.
Starting point is 00:56:08 It's gold. Right. Right. So they go to him. So here's what happens is they, they would, and Junior did this for 10 years. So they would pull people over. They search your car and they'd find $40,000, whatever. And they just take it from you.
Starting point is 00:56:27 They're like, you're a drug dealer. I'm just going to take it from you. And they didn't even add it. That's what they're going to say. Who's the say you even had it? Right. Right. And so, of course, he said, what he said was a lot of times, like, you'd find like half a key or something and, you know, 20 grand.
Starting point is 00:56:42 And they'd be like, look, you know, here's what we can do. Because they'll convert the cash to drugs. So now suddenly you have, you didn't get caught with half a key. You got caught with two keys because we're going to convert the cash to drugs. You got caught with two keys. You're getting 20 years. or we can take the cash we can turn in the key
Starting point is 00:57:03 you'll get five years as long as you don't mention the cash we want to do that for you you want to go home it's like you want to get five years you want to get 20 you're not if you're getting it back it's gone either way
Starting point is 00:57:16 and they they be up but if you fucking say that we took the cash you know what I'm saying like it's going to be a problem no no no no take it take it like these guys be like take it so they take it and they would also like one time he said they got
Starting point is 00:57:29 They busted somebody, pulled somebody over. He has a key. They start, where's the money? Where's the money? Where's the money? And they're like, so basically they're like, they eventually figure out where he lives. Go to his house on a no-knock warrant. Go inside the house.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Find a couple hundred grand, a hundred grand, whatever it is. Take the fucking money. And then say, I didn't, we didn't find nothing. So we only got him for a key or a half key quarter kit, whatever it is. So he was saying that like, oh, we would. He was like, we were robbed people for 10 years. 10 years. So here's what happens is one day they pull somebody over.
Starting point is 00:58:07 They grabbed the guy. And they're like, where did you get the drugs from? He's got like a fucking half a key or something, a key, whatever. They're like, where did you get it? And the guy says, you know, if I tell you where I got it, can you let me go? You tell us where you got it. We're going to take the drugs, which you can walk. And he goes, okay, here's the address.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Gives him the ad, you know, 3017, you know, north 14th street, whatever. Okay. And so they then go to the certified CI and they say, we need you to sign this saying you've bought drugs from this house. He signs it. They then take that and they go to the judge. Boom, this guy's bought drugs a bunch of time. He's a certified CI. You've signed off on him before. He just bought some drugs. They have the drugs. And the judge says, okay, no problem. They sign it. He signs it. He signs it. Got it. Rub a stamp it. Yeah. So 11 o'clock at night, they go to the house. This is in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Go to the house, bad neighborhood. They go to the front door. They pry open the front door. So it takes some time. You can hear them, bam, bam, you know, cutting open the front door. And they're, and then they kick in the front door. And as they enter the front of the house,
Starting point is 00:59:27 they hear, you know, so much, shoots him. Bam, bam, bam, it was like three shots and they just a junior unloads on them. It was a 70-year-old retired school teacher who woke up to hearing, you know, bam, bam, bam, the front door. She grabbed, rolled over, grabbed her a little 22 or 38, whatever, small, walked in the hallway, the shotgun house. You know, the hallway starts at the front door all with that. She leans out her out of window. She sees guys rushing in. She fires, starts firing.
Starting point is 01:00:05 And Junior unloaded it on her, killed her. Okay. So, you know, when by the time the cops show up, they've said, they've come up their story. She's a drug dealer. She's selling drugs. Drugs are being sold out of this house. We already have a no-knock warrant.
Starting point is 01:00:27 We have, we got a certain. certified, you know, affidavit. So they're saying all this, but junior who goes to the hospital, because junior got shot, by the way, it hit him in the vest, but it was this part of the vest. So it didn't hit the place. So it goes through his shoulder, right? It goes, well, or at least into his shoulders.
Starting point is 01:00:44 He goes to the hospital, you know, and they stitch him up, whatever. And he was such a fucking dirtbag, bro. Whenever you would say something like he would, I'll tell you later, but he was such a douchebag. Anyway, like no remorse So the cops get there And very quickly they're talking to the neighbors And the neighbors are like, she's a retired school teacher
Starting point is 01:01:09 She doesn't sell drugs. The family's showing up. That's my mom. What the fuck are you talking about? Yeah. Like the neighborhood's getting crazy. Yeah. They're getting fucking riled up.
Starting point is 01:01:21 They're ready to this is a bad neighborhood. This is a this is an 80% 20% Hispanic, 80% black neighborhood in Atlanta and where this was 20 years ago where they're being brutalized and they they ain't having it bro so there's they're you know and and of course you know it's not like they're wrong they're not they're not you know what I'm saying like so I get it sometimes they get upset like oh you arrested this guy and oh you're picking on the on us but the truth is the guy's a drug dealer like so shut up but this is a school teacher so they're trying to convince people No, no, she was selling drugs.
Starting point is 01:01:59 And obviously, Junior's realizing it's unraveling. It's getting ugly. Right. Internal affairs comes in. And they realize something's wrong. Somebody's very wrong. It's so overwhelming within a day or two. The feds come in.
Starting point is 01:02:16 And they say, no, no, your internal affairs are not taking care of this. We think you violated this woman's rights, her constitutional rights. We think this. And that's a very, people think, oh, okay, so what? No, no, no, no. That's a serious fucking thing. They'll throw you in jail for 20 years. So it's starting to unravel.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Junior, he's been around, knows it's unraveling. He knows the whole thing's going to fall apart. He knows his guys are not going to stand up. They know that they know the score. Junior grabs a lawyer, goes straight to the, because the first guy in the door is usually getting, the best deal. All the town.
Starting point is 01:02:57 All the time. He goes straight in and he says, Junior gets three years in the state for, for, what is it, for manslaughter? Yes. And he gets five years for violating her rights. He keeps all of his money. He testifies against.
Starting point is 01:03:25 All of his co-defendants, he tells you what they've been doing for 10 years, and that's the deal. And the feds go, we'll take it. Like, because we've got, these got, nobody so far is coming in. Yeah. I'm willing to lay out the case. So he gives up, I want to say six, his six or seven partners, you know, in this little, this little drug, not task force, their little drug unit. And he explains, oh, by the way, by this point, it's about, about, I told you've been about three, days. He's out of the hospital, of course. But by this point, the newspapers are coming out. And one of the things that's
Starting point is 01:04:01 happened is that the feds grabbed the CI. And he's talking. I don't know who that person. They showed up. They gave me an affidavit. They had it. I signed it. What am I going to do? These guys are telling me they're going to send me to prison. I've signed bunch of bunches of them that I've never bought drugs from. So this is a lot of worms. So Junior goes in, takes the deal. And it was so fun, this is what I'm saying, it was so funny. I would sit there and I would, because he would tell stories. I'd be like, you know, hey, this ever happened?
Starting point is 01:04:37 This ever happened? You know, I'd ask him questions periodically. And, you know, he would laugh about how this happened. I said, what's the worst thing you ever seen? He would be like, oh, God, or the worst thing I've ever seen, listen to this. Like, everybody told me they were chasing a guy one time. And the guy ran, he was, you know, the bridges that go across the highways, right? the overpasses.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Overpasses. Right. He said, so this guy, we're chasing him, and he ends up pulling his car over, right there, just as the overpass starts, and he starts running. He goes, and I'm chasing him. He said, he runs, and he jumps over the overpass, because you know how it goes down on the side, thinking I'm going to, he's going to go down and be able to run down there. And he's like, there was a neighborhood not far away.
Starting point is 01:05:20 That's where he's headed. He said, he runs. and he jumps. He said, now, keep on as he's running, you can see him look over. And he keeps running. He looks over. And he realizes, okay, I'm almost to the point where it's dipping. But he keeps running.
Starting point is 01:05:35 And then he jumps, thinking he's got a few feet to the other side. But by the time he got, he had run too far. And it had dropped down like 30 feet. And as he's falling, you know, the fences? Well, the fences have the, the, posts and they stick out, right? Sometimes, right? He said it was one of the older 1960 or 70s posts that have a point on it.
Starting point is 01:06:02 He catches him in the back of the head as he's falling and yanks his head clean off his body. Oh. He said, I went to jump over it. And he said, I jump over it. I have to grab onto the thing. I realize it dropped because he jumped and now I'm jumping. Yeah, you got to go after him. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:18 And he's like, whoa. And he's like, oh, he's like, I'm grabbing it. He was, but I wasn't that far. It's maybe 15 feet. So I was able to kind of hang down and drop down. He said, at an anger, or maybe somebody pulled him up, whatever. He said, I remember when we ran down there to find him. He said, his head is on the spike.
Starting point is 01:06:34 He said, two or three of us immediately started puking. He said, I've never seen things so horrific in my life. Anyway, so I remember one time I was talking to him about this whole thing. And I went, I said, he was complaining because keep in mind, he got three years in the state. and he was supposed to get five years in the Fed they were running concurrently so he didn't have to go to the state he stayed in the Fed the whole time
Starting point is 01:07:03 go to the state he's a white cop setting up black drug dealers you can't go to the in Georgia so he knew listen he's not he's not stupid so what's funny about that is the state judge even though he had a deal It wasn't the state judge.
Starting point is 01:07:26 It was, I want to say it was a federal judge. The federal judge ended up giving him like six years or seven years, a couple of years more than he was supposed to get. He's like, yeah, he's like, yeah, I had a deal. He's like, the fucking federal judge, he blah, blah, you know, this and this. And he was supposed to give me five years and he ended up giving me seven. And I went, you did kill somebody like that. And he goes, old lady, like. I know, I know.
Starting point is 01:07:48 I go, you did kill somebody. And he goes, she fucking shot me, bro. And I went, you broke into her house. Like, I typically don't push back. I don't care. You want to say, okay, whatever. I'm not going to get an argument. She shot me and I go, you broke into her fucking house.
Starting point is 01:08:02 He's where police officers, I go, she didn't know that. And he was, you know what I'm saying? And he sat there. You don't understand. I'm thinking, no, no, I do understand. You don't get it. They don't get it because they're cops. But if you asked them, if I was a tell, like I said, I have friends that a cop,
Starting point is 01:08:19 family that's caught. And I tell them the story. None of them, nobody that I know, that knows me personally, when it happened, everybody said the same thing before even speaking to me. Oh, he probably thought it was getting robbed. That was one of my biggest fears when I was young when I was probably, it was right before my dad got locked up. I was probably seven, eight years old, they pushed us into our house in the morning when we was leaving for school, tied me up, tied my little brother, tied my mother up, tied my father up, and robbed us. This, from, I used to wake up in cold sweats. You can ask my ex.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Like, wake up in cold sweats, go look out the window, lay back down and not remember what I did the night before. Like, that's how much, that's everybody's the biggest fear. Yeah. And I have cops that I asked them, like, yo, what would you do? They was like, yo, that person would be shot. If I don't know who it is in my house, it's 6 o'clock in the morning. It's still dark out.
Starting point is 01:09:10 I'm just waking up. I don't even know what's going to. That first five minutes when you wake up, you don't know what's going on. You're still like in your sleep state or whatever they call it. what would you do? Right. What would you do? Knowing what I know now, hell
Starting point is 01:09:25 know I'm not going to, I wouldn't have shot back if I knew that it was cops. But at the time, with the information that I had at the time, people in my house, they're not announcing themselves. I gave them ample opportunity
Starting point is 01:09:36 to announce themselves. What else is there to do? Right. What else is there to do? And that's my thing. Like, why do I have to go do 16 years because I thought I was going to die? I'm not.
Starting point is 01:09:49 saying I shouldn't do no time. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying is you want to punish me for illegal venal house. Cool. Give me my couple years, my three, four, five, whatever, whatever you're going to do. But don't treat me as if I'm some animal when what would you do in my situation? What would you do? And this around the time, this is 2022 when everybody's house in New York was getting broken into. It was right after COVID died down. There was no. no more money, everybody's getting robbed. A friend of mine died three weeks prior to that seven minutes away from my house from a home invasion and he got shot.
Starting point is 01:10:27 So what am I supposed to do? Wait, I'm thinking. They're not there to sell me health or life insurance or girls got cookies. Six o'clock in the morning. They're in your house and they're not in a nutshell, so trying to be cute, try to be quiet and, oh, no, it's not this, this, though, is that, though, hit that, though. What does that sound like to any normal person? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:45 And now I got to go Like I don't have no kids But I'm an amazing uncle You know what I'm saying I have kids that I have help raise I'm my mother's caretaker Because she's real sick now
Starting point is 01:10:57 Like I gotta go My family got to go Do without me for 10 years And I have no end I don't have no violent charges ever My shit is always drug possession I don't even have no sales
Starting point is 01:11:08 On my rap sheet I don't have no assaults I don't have no shootings I don't have I'm not a violent person at all. So what's my, like, what's the remedy for the situation? And at the end of the day, why did you need a no not one?
Starting point is 01:11:25 For what? He didn't commit a violent crime. What are you kicking, even if it was his house, which it wasn't. My name's out of the Lord. You didn't even tell the judge and give him an opportunity to be like, listen, we're violating this guy's rights because he didn't do anything wrong. And it's his house, but the other person is living there and he sold drugs away from the house. There's no CI on his case.
Starting point is 01:11:47 He was selling straight to an undercover. So there's no CI that met him at the house or seen drugs in the house or sales made out of the house. No crime was committed in that house. So how can you just come and kick my door down? And now I got to go through 16 years. Well, I wasn't doing nothing wrong. I went to sleep. People say wrong place, wrong time.
Starting point is 01:12:04 How was it wrong place? I was in my bed. I wasn't out of the club and whatever. I was in my bed sleep where I was supposed to be. Yeah, this is a bad situation. So it's like... I also understand that, you know, usually I would say, like, well, you should have gone to trial, but you can't go to trial.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Not with the judge saying that. Like, you can't, yeah, I couldn't even justify saying, well, you should still try. No, there's no. The judge has already told you he's going to fuck. He's telling you what he's going to do to you. I have a 34 count indictment. If I blow the three of the small charges,
Starting point is 01:12:44 not none of the A's or the Bs, I blow to three of the small charges. I can blow to one C and two Ds. I'm getting 30 years. Right. For what? So we could get out of the news that they didn't have body cameras on? Because why didn't they have body cameras on?
Starting point is 01:12:58 Where's the justice for that? Where's the repercussions for them? Because it's not a feather in my hat that, oh, I got to shoot a cop. Like what? I don't sleep well at night. I could turn my camera now. I don't have any door on my bedroom. The only doors that are in my house are the bathroom and my front door.
Starting point is 01:13:15 I cannot sleep with a door on my bedroom. I can't sleep. I will be up all night if the door to my bedroom is closed. I cannot sleep. I had to take the door off both of my bedrooms. This isn't something that is going to affect me for the rest of my life. For the rest of my life. How old are you?
Starting point is 01:13:36 42. Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I look a little younger than that, but I'm 42 years old. I don't want to come home at 52 and have to do everything over again, lose everything, and have to come back and do it all over again. Like, I did that already.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Everything that you asked me to do when I get off parole, I did in spades. You want me to get a job? Cool, I got a job. Then I got a better job. Got him to union. Start my own business. When they partners on another business was I was doing everything that I was supposed to do, giving back to my community.
Starting point is 01:14:07 And now it's all taken away because you guys don't want to admit that you were wrong. Because had I not been wrong, had they not been wrong. If they had body cameras, everything, they wasn't going to offer me no 16 years for shooting that file cop. They're going to make me go to trial and blow my doors. off and put me under one of these jails up here. That's what they're going to do. They're not going to, they're going to let me cop out.
Starting point is 01:14:27 If they were right. If they were right, if they did everything right and by the book, they're not offering, they're not letting me take 16th. Yeah. So, but if they had body cameras on and. If they had body cameras on, they would have went to the body camera, seen that they didn't announce themselves and I wouldn't be in this type of trouble. Right. You would have had a gun charge. I would have a gun charge or a gun charge in the house. What was the gun charge?
Starting point is 01:14:50 carry. Well, gun charge a loaded firearm in the house because I'm a felon, it would have carried the max is 15. Really? Because, you know, in the feds, like if I get caught with a gun, I get three years. If I, if I get caught with a gun and drugs, you get five years. Now, the problem in the state is a gun charge in the house is a defelemy. Your max is seven. If you have no, because there's a, there's a, there's a, an exception and it was it's 265 10 or something like that there's an in-home exception so you have a low you get caught with a loaded firearm in the house it's a D felony you usually cop out to a E and you probably get a year the only exception to that rule is if you have a prior felony or if they're machine guns so because I have a prior felony it goes from a D to a C which is my max is 15 but the judge
Starting point is 01:15:42 never does go if you get caught with a gun in the house and you're a felon never never is he going to give team on cop out ever ever they're going to knock it down to a d and you're going to cop out to a three or four or five and like i said i'm not saying i didn't do anything wrong i had a gun amount for protection of my home for protection and you used it in in furtherance of protection of your home protection of my home as soon as i open that door the first words on my mouth were for my for me get me an ambulance am i going to die i didn't say none of that the very first words on my mouth where i'm sorry i thought I was getting robbed is the cop okay. And this is before I knew that I knew him. I didn't find out I know him for a week and a half when I seen him in the newspaper. Did he ever reach out to you?
Starting point is 01:16:25 Never. He sold me. He's suing you? He should have sued me, the landlord. Um, the landlord. Yeah. He said he should have known about the criminal activity going on in the house. But this goes back to there was no criminal activity going on in the house. Right. Yeah. He's not going to win. He's just soon. I don't even know. When my lawyers heard that he was soon and that they wanted an order protection from I have order protection. They laughed in court. Like, where do they do this?
Starting point is 01:16:56 Right. And where do they do this at? Well, yeah, I don't, you know, obviously I don't have anything good to say. It's no good. There's no good. No good on this. There's no good in this. It's just like I said, if I mean, I'm going to keep fine. I'm going to put in whatever pills. I go put it. That's another thing. They limit what you can appeal.
Starting point is 01:17:20 because I cop out. Right. So I can't appeal a lot of stuff. If I would have went to trial and got my doors blown up, then I can appeal the, um, everything, whatever. Also, I'm a felon. There's a gun, there was two guns that out. Why, why did the feds come?
Starting point is 01:17:43 I have a previous gun from before. And there's another gun found in the kitchen who my, my co-defendant, want to exist that I don't even know about. They only offered him two years ago. What did he end up getting total? He wound up getting, so he wound up getting six for the drugs fast. He took six for the drugs because he has prize for drugs for his drugs here. He took six off the bat, like a few months in.
Starting point is 01:18:12 And then the guns in the house, they were like, well, we'll give you two years and run it consecutive. And he's like, no, I'm not taking that. I'm not going to take that. So his lawyer wound up doing it to where he asked the judge, well, give him seven for the gun and run it concurrent so he gets a total of seven. The judge said, well, I don't even know if I can give him that much. Because they're not used to giving that much time for a gun in the house.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Right. So that's what he wound up again. He wound up taking the seven for the gun, the six for the drugs, and ran him together. They'll be home like three years because he's going to go to shop. He'll be home in like three years. He just went in a few weeks ago. Um, can you think of anything we didn't cover? Um, no.
Starting point is 01:19:04 Can you think of anything we didn't cover that you want to cover? No. I'm a little depressed for you, but, um. I'm depressed myself. I wake up every day thinking about it. If I, I would be able to deal with it better if I was actually still in the street because I can't get mad. I got hit by a car if I'm playing in traffic. That's my saying. Right.
Starting point is 01:19:25 I'm in the streets. I'm doing what it's part of the game. This is not part of the game. To me, I was never going back to jail. Jail was a distant, distant, distant memory to me. I'm not jail. Like, I'm not going to be crazy. What am I going back to jail for?
Starting point is 01:19:39 Doing so good out here legally. And they can't take it from me then? What? Like, what are we doing? And now I have to go do the most time that I've ever done. And I'm in the most show I've ever been in. When I was coping out, because you know how you cop out. When you go up there, you pick the Georgia,
Starting point is 01:19:53 you're going to cop out. to and you've got to admit. Tears coming down my face. Not because of the time because I'm admitting to something that I didn't do. Right. In court admitting, that's what,
Starting point is 01:20:06 it was tears of frustration and pain. Like, you're making me admit to something that I did not do. To this day, if I see one of these cops on the street, any one of the ones that was in my house, even the one that got shot, the one that sued me. If they needed help, I would help them.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Like, I would help them. If I seen them in the street right now. I'm walking down the street. I don't hold no animosity. It's not like I'm like, oh, fuck the police because it is no. They have to do their job. It's a very sensitive job that they do, and I don't envy them. I don't want to be a cop. Right. But just do it right.
Starting point is 01:20:37 Be fair. Like, why is your life worth more than mine? Again, to this day, I'm not like, fuck the police. I see one of them outside right now, and they need help. And their life was in danger. Anything. They need a flat tie. This is the type of person in it, man. Anybody that knows me can contest a man. The fact that I've been in the fact that I've,
Starting point is 01:20:55 I bailed that on a $5 million dollar bailing. It wasn't my money. Right. It's just 18 people donated money. So you're telling me 18 people. It doesn't go like that. That's a testament to my character, the clerk said when they were taking the money. You know what you're doing?
Starting point is 01:21:11 Like, yeah, we know what you're doing. And the clerk said, I've never seen anything like this before. And there's a testament to his character. It's the type of person that I'm quick to give before I take any time. So that's what hurts so much. That it's like, it's just, it doesn't count for, or anything, it don't matter to them. Yeah, I think, I think this is.
Starting point is 01:21:33 It's probably that gotta be told because if not, it's for nothing. It's for me. And it can't be for nothing. All right. I think this is a good stopping place. All right. All right. Hold on a second, okay? Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Would you have anything that you, any place you want people to go or, you know, like a social media or anything? No. just. No, I don't got no. Like, I don't go fund me. I don't, I don't, I don't, like I said, this shit just, it's fucked up. It's fucked up. It's not fair.
Starting point is 01:22:05 Nobody should have to go through this. It's like, nobody. I don't envy, like, they really need to. And in the feds, there's no knock on what it would have stuck. The judge wouldn't have gave it to them because it's stricter now ever since Bionna Taylor, but the states can do what they want. That's why that it's didn't go to the feds. But the feds would have looked at it like, there was no crime committed in the house.
Starting point is 01:22:24 why the fuck did you get a no-nogun? Right. It's not his house, and you didn't even bring up the person whose house it is. But after the fact you said that you knew I lived there, so why didn't you tell the judge that you know I lived there? Right. So that's why they didn't, that's why I think the feds didn't come to the feds are like, yo. So do I think eventually, like, because you know how appeals work, appeals. When you get court in the state, you got to go through the two state appeals, get denied and then appeal to the Supreme Court.
Starting point is 01:22:51 I think once you get to the feds, I'll be heard more than in the state court. I think I'm going to get denied on my appeals on the state court. I think I'm going to have to wait until it gets to the federal circuit. And then I'll get some traction. But by that time, you know how pills work two years each one. I'm going to have years in. Yeah. So, but it has to be, it has to be told because, like I said, this is, this is unacceptable.
Starting point is 01:23:15 This is unacceptable. And it's the scariest shit I've ever been through in my life. I went from dead sleep to thinking I was going to die. I'm in a room. and 48, you saw the picture of my door, 48 shots coming through my door. Wizzing past, literally whizzing past my head. I don't know to this day how I only got shot once. Had no clue because I went from one side of the door to the other side of the door.
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