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It's the number one trending thing on.
that Amy Dangerfield is a huge slut.
And the biggest names in the space across the political spectrum
were reporting on me and this Epstein-level blackmail
that actually isn't even real blackmail.
It was completely fabricated.
So you met your husband at Valuetainment?
Yeah, that's right.
So he was the top editor for Patrick Bet David, actually.
Okay.
And then we ended up working together on various projects,
but we became really close
when we started working together on my show,
multiple late nights, you know, we'd come over and we'd spend hours conceptualizing,
writing out the episodes, he edited them. So, yeah, we became a really solid team.
I just got a job there because I've been doing YouTube since I was like eight.
Right. And it's always been a dream of mine to be involved in the YouTube creator space.
And so when we began to work together on her show, it was so much fun and so exciting.
It was like my childhood dream coming true. And then when we went independent, the numbers.
on a whole other level.
The numbers went up like crazy and we were finally making enough for this to be our full-time
income.
And of course, value team and was very political.
And so our content took on quite a political tone and we're both very passionate about
the America First movement, you know, supporting political candidates who are opposed to foreign
aid, who, you know, oppose, you know, wars that aren't for the best interests of the American
people.
And so that became a major theme to our content that we became very very.
passionate about and even more so after we went independent.
To us it almost transcended the content because we are so patriotic and her being
from a different country that she feels like is being taken over.
We were just so into trying to help and so.
May people realize like how good they have it here, you know, comparatively.
I mean, when it comes to things like free speech, for example, like places like Australia
and the UK, people are being arrested for political opinions, for praying in public,
you know, yeah, absolutely, for things that they're posting.
And it's scary when you see that people are making moves to try to bring those type of draconian speech policies to the United States.
So that became kind of like a staple of what we were setting out to do.
And what we found out is that same free speech that we appreciate so much can actually get to a point where it's illegal.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Especially online.
Like we didn't even know that that was...
You were going to say profitable.
No, no, no, no.
No, no, I mean, it really, we were profitable enough to pay the bills, but we got married, and we immediately planned to do this event, this political event with the money that we saved from doing a shotgun lighting in Vegas.
In Vegas?
Yeah, we did it.
There's nothing more American than that.
I love a good, you know, kind of a white trash wedding, you know, some chapel, I'd be like, no, it's got to be Elvis.
Hey, is that was tomorrow?
We pay more to not have Elvis, actually.
Are you serious?
Oh, no, I have to have Elvis.
It's going to be Vegas.
I've got to have Elvis.
We had to pay extra to have like a male pasta.
Marius.
Yeah.
It was a hundred and fifty bucks more to not have Elvis.
That guy wouldn't.
We wanted to do it classy, Matt.
We wanted to do it classic.
No, it's funny though because we had only three people there and one of them were a wife
beater.
Nice.
Yeah.
See? I mean, very white trash wedding, for sure. Absolutely. But we did save a bunch of money from that. And so we were only a few months independent. And we said, hey, a lot of the primary elections are coming up. There's a lot of candidates that we support both on the left and the right. I mean, you know, obviously we're more conservative-leaning people. But there are people who are on the left who I would prefer to support over the, you know, establishment right-wing pick. Because, you know, while we made a
agree on cultural issues, there are underlying principles of like national sovereignty that we
agree on right now that are very pressing. And so we brought together all of these candidates,
all of these candidates across the political aisle and essentially platform them to be able to
deliver their campaign promises and exactly how they want to put their state first and put their
country first. I mean, it sounds great on the surface. This is the platform. This is the,
what do you call it, seminar you put together? Yeah, yeah. This seminar.
It's not good.
No, it's not seminar.
What do you call?
It was an event, yeah, an event, a seminar.
Sure.
Okay.
Sorry.
You jump right into that.
Yeah.
So this was the political event that we put on with the money that we saved.
Yeah, it was just fully out of our pocket.
And it was a good opportunity for networking and for, you know, candidates and people
who are in charge of like door knocking stuff to kind of get together.
And so we felt on the personal front, IRL, it was a great time on the Internet.
The New York Times was there.
And they wrote an article with us on the cover being like,
what does the America First movement look like without Nick Fuentes?
Right. Nick did not like that so much.
He did not.
So Nick Fuentes goes on his show and he's actually very nice about it.
Like he's pretty hastenable.
He goes, you know, it's hard to throw an event.
You know, it's not going to all go right.
And he kind of left it alone.
I did say, but this is what you get when you try to do in America First event.
I mean, so the event was good in person.
great networking, everybody there, besides maybe one or two people, like, didn't have complaints.
Online, the company that we hired for broadcasting the event, they left a lot to be desired.
There were quite a few technical slip-ups.
So technically, watching the stream, it was like impossible.
It was a bit of an optical disaster on the stream.
It was like people were talking and their vocals were like three minutes behind,
their mouth moving.
So it was unwatchable.
Yeah, it was embarrassing and unwatchable.
They kind of made fun of us for the production side of things.
And so that was valid and reasonable.
And a bunch of his Groyper supporters, like his fan base kind of came after us.
But we've been online now for years.
We're used to the common attacks.
You know, you're a horror or all this stuff.
Yeah.
Things don't always go.
Yeah.
I mean, that's like the default slur that any man will levy against women online.
Like, he'll call her a whore.
This is very normal even before all of this.
We get a lot of hate.
You have to have thick skin in this industry.
So that wasn't a big deal at all.
Yeah, but then the hate got out of control.
And it got illegal.
There was this one girl, her name is Lauren.
They actually met doing podcasting together for like the whatever and the fresh and fit show.
Yeah.
Wait, you guys met on Twitter, right?
We actually, we got into a little bit of a Twitter beef, actually.
It's really not that interesting.
But we went back and forth over a difference of agreement.
And we ended up meeting in person,
after that. She was being very standoffish and rude because of the online drama. And I was like,
girl, this is real life. Like the internet should not translate to this real in-person interaction right
now, let it go. And we became friends after that. And everything was fine. We actually ended up
becoming roommates. She moved in with me in, I believe it was September of 2024. And we lived
together for about a year before the friendship kind of broke off. But it was this event and the attacks
and the hate that we were getting online that kind of precipitated her defamation campaign
that she then started, which then obviously escalated into much worse things.
Yeah, what happened there?
Like, how did that start?
Like you said you're kind of friends still.
You were school, you were kind of friends.
Yeah.
So it all started.
So she moved out about a month before our lease ran up.
I was charged with cleaning up the place, making sure we were good to move out.
We were fine.
We were texting throughout.
She was grateful for the work that I put in to get the apartment.
in a good state. And then a month after that, in December, it was her birthday. And I was one day late
to say happy birthday. That was my crime. I was on a plane. I was sick. And I did not wish her happy
birthday until the next day. I sent her a nice voice message, very apologetic. But she basically lost her
mind via text and said, you're a terrible friend. Oh, and by the way, your political opinions and
the people you've been collaborating with make you a terrible, disgusting anti-Semite, and I want
nothing to do with you. So, I mean, on the surface, it was about missing a birthday. I mean,
obviously bubbling up underneath, maybe there were some deeper grievances that were not
necessarily communicated. But so we kind of broke off the friendship. I hadn't heard from her at all in
four months. Like, we had not texted at all back and forth throughout this time leading up to the
event. But then the event happens.
And I guess she sees this.
So after the birthday, you have the event.
Yeah, four months later.
Four months later.
So you're nothing.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Nothing.
I mean, the only thing that I heard from like two different people was that she had been espousing these kind of crazy claims online and like different Discord service.
But I didn't even believe them at the time because it was so crazy that I was on an FBI watch list that I'd never done my taxes, that I was cheating on my husband.
And he was actually like a cock who enjoyed it.
I like to watch.
apparently.
Yeah.
Just things of this nature that were just so ridiculous and out there that like a response
wasn't even justified, right?
And I didn't even fully believe that she was saying these things.
Then the event happens.
We start getting some attacks and some hate online.
And this is when she sees the perfect window of opportunity to, I guess, play out these
plans that she's been building in her mind for, I guess, the last full months with these
grievances building up that I was completely.
completely unburnerns to me.
Yeah, so she basically used the cloud of everybody online talking about us and our event
and what a disaster it was to then jump in and go, hey, I was Amy's roommate for a year.
She's actually a huge horror.
She's a hypocrite.
She sleeps with every single guy she's ever done a podcast with.
You know, if she's on Fresh and Fit, she only got on there because she slept with
Myron.
If she's on a stream with Zirka, she slept with him.
I mean, Patrick, Bet, David, Vinny.
I mean, we'll get into it.
but there were multiple fake accounts that she created on an ongoing daily basis.
And she was using these accounts to harass people that I was formally associated with,
mostly through business or podcasting and putting on their public profiles that they had slept with me
or asking them directly if they'd slept with me.
And so then it just got, that's why it began to snowball out of control.
Well, wait, but first of all, like, who is she?
Like, does she have a YouTube channel?
Is she an influence?
Is she, or is just, what does she?
What does she do that she's in a position to think that?
So she's an attorney.
She's a Florida attorney licensed in Arizona and Florida.
A criminal defense.
Yes.
And so she has a YouTube channel that primarily analyzes like legal cases.
So yeah.
Like the, I'm forgetting.
So she comes to, she appears to be coming from a place of credibility.
Kind of.
I wouldn't say she's a huge influencer or anything, you know.
Right.
Right, but at least there's, yeah, but you know this. Listen, you could have 500 subscribers and 20 videos. And because it's almost like everybody has to have some kind of social media presence. Because if you don't, people don't even, what was the video I sent the other day to you? Where the guy, it was a lawyer. It's a lawyer behind a computer type. This is how I thought I'd be making, you know, making a living as an attorney. And then suddenly it's got a picture of him with his.
two legal assistance and he's doing like the, he's doing the TikTok.
Yeah, he's like, this is how I'm actually getting clients.
Right.
You know, like, this is how I thought I'd get clients, but this is how you're actually doing it.
Right.
I don't think she's too focused on getting clients.
She is a trust fund kid.
She would actually like cry to us and be like, you guys don't understand what it's like
to never have to make money.
Like, like my drive isn't there.
I wish I had the drive, but if you don't have to work, it's just kind of tough.
Because when things get hard, you can just quit.
And we're like, okay.
You know, it's funny.
Not relate at all.
Yeah.
It is.
It reminds me when Johnny Mitchell, who's six foot six, will constantly tell me how uncomfortable it is to fly and how how he sticks out in a crowd.
I'm like, get the fuck out of it.
Poor guy.
Yeah.
Don't, don't.
Can't even comfortably drive a Lamborghini.
Yeah.
Don't.
Don't.
I'm like, we're not doing this, bro.
You know, you know, like I'm awkward looking.
Stop it.
Stop it.
You are awkwardly.
You can see where you're going in a crowd.
It's like, the girls are constantly just ripping my clothes.
Exactly.
Very inconvenient.
It's like.
Yeah.
But yeah, no, she definitely primarily used her platform to just commentate on different legal cases.
And, you know, she went on the occasional podcast tour, but just like Fresh and Fib, whatever podcast, SimCast, things like this.
Okay.
Well, that's still a pretty big presence.
Yeah, no, yeah.
I mean.
Fresh and Fit, that's like, that's not the joke, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll see that because I've been on Fresh of.
Shout out, Myron.
Yeah.
Yeah, she was actually on an episode with Nick Fuentes on that show,
and they were very combative, and she does not like Nick.
While we were all friends, she did not like the fact that we were okay with him.
He's a Nazi, he's an anti-Semite, all this thing.
I mean, a part of the reason why she apparently labeled me as this anti-Semitic person
is because she viewed me as sympathizing with a lot of Nick Fuentes' positions
when it came to foreign policy and positions about, you know,
Israeli monopoly of power within the government.
So she did not like him at all.
And yet she was using the attacks that were started by Nick and all of the Groypers to essentially jump on the bandwagon and not only make posts about me, but actually collaborate with these people who she deems to be evil anti-Semites in order to go on their shows and get, you know, presence and views so that she can paint this narrative about me.
So she starts going on all these Groyper podcasts, which is like Nick Fuentes' cronies, like his.
I'm sorry, and I hear the term all the time,
and I know I should know it.
What is Groyper?
So I thought in the beginning of all this,
I thought Groyper meant you're a fan of Nick Fuentes
and you agree with some of his takes.
That's what I thought it meant.
They made it very well known to us post-event.
If you're a Groyper, that means they actually told me this.
Who's they?
The Groyper's.
On a Twitter space.
On a Twitter space, they said,
you need to suck Nick Fuentes' dick.
We would all do it.
We would all suck as dick.
If you don't agree with everything Nick Fuentes says,
you're a traitor. And so that's what Groyper
became and it's like, okay, if you
even if Nick changes his mind, you
have to change your mind too. Like you cannot disagree
with Nick. You can't counter signal Nick.
That's the big thing. So our whole event
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There were a couple people there that said something bad about Nick at one point,
and the Groypers really didn't like that.
And so they thought we were trying to destroy Nick and destroy all this stuff.
Co-op the movement.
And the reality is we were just trying to take action to get some candidates that we saw to be America first.
Elected.
elected.
Yes.
So that was the goal.
But Nick, he was very kind to us in the beginning.
It was when Lauren started to jump on.
She started to go into all this detail on all the Groyper podcast about how she sleeps with all these guys.
And she's never going to get a green card because she's, you know, on the FBI watch list and all this stuff.
Got to the point, it's trending on X.
And now all the streamers that she's accusing that slept with her, they're all having to kind of respond.
Some of them are taking like a funny route.
Like, I did not have sexual relations with Amy Dangerfield.
Some are going straight up just, no.
Everything's being clipped.
Hassan Piker's talking about it.
Everybody in the political sphere
to where it's the number one trending thing on X
that Amy Dangerfield is a huge slut
and that she completely is disingenuous
to her audience when she tells them
that they should get married and all this stuff.
Because in her private life,
she's a completely different person.
So...
So, and I mean, that's rough, you know?
It's not nice when you have people attacking you
and attacking your character
and especially things that are like contradictory.
to the values that you hold dear, the lifestyle that you're living,
but at the same time, it is the internet
and you kind of need to be braced for things like this
and attacks like this happening.
But I think that there's a very clear difference
between something that makes out country so great,
which is free speech, and then bordering into, you know, things that are criminal,
whether that be civil, whether that be, like, defamation,
or actually criminal when you start talking about things like AI,
being disseminated. AI sexual material being disseminated or felony stalking, which is what this
eventually resulted in, was her actually like physically tracking my location to try to intimidate
me. So it started just with like a defamation campaign and over the course of the next like month
or so, it got so much crazier to the point where I was like scared to leave our house.
And what specifically, I mean, can think of any specific post that she was saying?
Yeah.
So I think what actually started it was we got reached out to by someone who was actually a client of hers.
So someone who she was an attorney for.
And he reached out to me on Instagram.
And this is when we actually filed for the restraining order saying, hey, you don't know me,
but there's this girl called Lauren.
She is absolutely obsessed with you.
she's stalking you and she told me that she wants to take you out.
If you and your husband want to jump on a call, I'm happy to share more information with you.
So that was the first thing.
So we get on the phone with this guy and he's telling us that he's basically at the point of filing a bar complaint
because she has completely mishandled his case and not invested the proper time in it
because she was too preoccupied talking about me and her vengeance that she has for me
during the time that she was meant to be representing him.
So that was the first, like crazy red flag.
I mean, you spoke to him first.
Maybe you want to, is there anything from that conversation that sticks out?
Yeah, I mean, so we're eventually going to make a documentary about this
because it got so out of hand and so crazy.
But he hired her.
She flies into his town.
She decides that she wants to go meet him in real life.
It's so happened that we were out of the house for the first time in like a month
going to a political event in Daytona,
She flies in that same night and leaves the same night that we left.
So she goes to this guy's house talking to him at nauseam about her, just like obsessed.
And then, like around 2 a.m., she starts to freak out.
And she storms his house and starts yelling in his neighborhood that he's trying to,
that he's trying to kidnap her, trying to do all this crazy stuff that she,
her story shifts.
He's got it recorded.
And it shifts a couple times to where he's like, you kicked me out and you're making
me sleep on the street.
And he's like, are my neighbor?
are coming out. You're embarrassing me.
Like, please get back.
She just kind of went crazy on him to
to the point where he looks her up
and reaches to her
just to figure out what's going on. And then he finds out
all this campaign that she's had,
we would wake up and it'd be 7.30 and she's
already going at it.
And she lives two times ons over.
So she was just, she made it her full-time job
to basically disseminate all these
lies about her and me,
our marriage, her past,
everything. So when we got that message, that's when I was like, okay, this is serious.
Like, we probably should file a restraining order. We had people recommended previously,
but there's obviously some barriers with that. When you're a public figure, the burden of
proof is a little bit higher than a typical restraining order, right? And I'm not like a huge
public figure by any means, like 160,000 collectively across all my platforms. But still, the standard
is higher.
And so it was a combination of Jonathan's testimony, what he told us,
plus the AI person and the revenge point.
She claimed with me.
Right.
Okay.
So what's happening?
Well, so let's break it down.
One is what happened?
You have a platform where you're basically at the point where you're making enough money
off the because the goal is, right?
Like you turn your kind of your hustle, right?
And do a career.
Yeah.
And turn it into next thing you know,
And that's really what it takes off.
Right.
You can drop everything off.
Now you drop everything else and now you can dump 60 hours a week, you know, where you're doing it 20, 40 working.
Right.
Or 40 or 50.
And then at some point you say, I don't need that anymore.
Boom.
That's when it's like, yeah.
That's the goal, right?
So you're saying you're basically, you were at that point.
We're there.
And then this happens.
So what happens with what happens with the.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, no.
I'm saying what happens with the platform?
You were making money.
This comes out what happens.
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We originally, we replied to some of the stuff because there's a lot of accusations
and we have evidence like, no, she never slept with this person.
And she did file her taxes, like this and that.
Like we're in everything that we're telling them on the live streams,
it's only everybody on X is being sent to the channel to dislike and to comment
and to send us like super chats, like send us money for us to read out,
just saying the most gross things.
They're insulting us.
They're paying to insult us essentially.
And then she's in the chats the whole time sending super chats that are making us talk about
accusations that aren't even weren't even brought up to begin with.
And then when we...
Just making them up on the spot.
On the fight.
Oh, this is a new one.
And then when we're like, we don't know what you're talking about.
Now everybody in the chat is like colluding to piece together a story to then go on X.
And then it gets to the point all the creators on X, all the men in the right wing space, they're starting to be like, I slept with Amy.
Hediting themselves in bed with her.
It becomes a mean.
Like, oh, she slept with every guy.
To the point where it got this dude Chad, he posts a video being like, hey, here's my sex tape with Amy.
and I'm going to sell it on my Discord or something.
And so he's now selling this fake sex tape.
That is a real sex tape.
I don't think it's AI, but it's not her.
The girl in the video has like a shoulder tattoo.
But it's blurry.
Yeah, same hair, similar build.
So then Lauren takes this and starts to share it in all the influencer chats,
being like, this is 100% Amy as a lawyer.
She gave herself no buffer zone to go, this could be Amy.
I think it might be Amy.
Just straight up, this is 100% her.
See, I told you guys, she slept with everybody.
Here's the proof.
Right.
And so that's when the trolling of calling my wife a horror and Mia Cuck turned into, oh, there's evidence now.
And then it started to get shared like crazy to the point where you would think that Amy was some only fan's chick.
Right.
So, sexualized.
Right.
So what's happening with your income?
I mean, what's happening?
You guys are saying, like, if this is like, unfortunately,
Unfortunately, for me, we'd probably get another 100,000 subscribers.
Like, 90% of my stuff is built on having a horrible reputation.
There's nothing you can say about me.
But you're in a completely different industry.
So I'm wondering what's happening with, because you're like a credible person,
what's happening with your sponsors and views and subscribers and everything.
Well, it was twofold.
Number one, any time that we would put out new content,
or try to defend ourselves, things would escalate astronomically.
Like, that would spur on a whole new slew of attacks.
It's almost like that was her, like, motivation and her energy waiting for me to come online
to say something so she could launch a whole new defamation campaign.
So we were put off for making content from that reason.
But in addition to that, I mean, everything just started to dry up because people were
believing this narrative.
Again, it was trending on X.
Everybody, Hassan PICA, the biggest influences we're talking about.
about it. And so when you have built your brand on something that is predicated off the opposite
of these lies that people are spewing about you, all of a sudden people see it was a fraud.
Amy talks about family values and getting married and about Jesus and, you know, all of these things.
Degeneration of modern society. And she's slept with every single person in the industry. What?
And so it would be like if somebody accused you, you never went to jail. You've never committed a crime. You're on here.
faking it. You know what I feel funny about that is that is almost the that is not really anymore,
but let's say for the first couple of years, because every once in a while somebody would say,
like, I don't even have to, I don't even have to respond now because my fans will just,
just absolutely just obliterate the guy in the comments. But someone will say, bro, this guy's so
full of shit. This guy, none of this ever happened. He's lying about this. You can't borrow multiple
mortgages on property. It's absolutely. They'll say something like, bro, this guy's lying. I've been
in real estate for 15 years. It's absolutely impossible. This guy's 100% of fraud. And then people
will just go after them where I used to, I would get those and I would think, and it was,
it was the only time that I was like, what do you talk? Like, I would get irritated. Not that I think
he's harming me, but I would think, you know, I'm a lot of things, but I'm not lying. I will lie.
I'm not, I'm okay with lying.
furtherance of a scam, you know what I'm saying? It's not like I'm a post, like I've never done it
before, but like I'm a lot of things, but I'm not lying about this. I'm saying, I'm not,
I don't have to make up this. That, that used to bother me, but now I still don't respond.
Right. But, you know, it's like so, but now everybody else responds for me, but I see what you're saying
because you're right, that is your credibility. My credibility is all of these, these things.
And especially in the age of the internet, it's not, it's not like your innocent
proven guilty. It's an accusation
gets thrown out there. If you can't
deny it with evidence,
right. It's true. It's true.
Which is crazy because the burden
of proof should be on the person who's making
the accusation, not on the person who needs
to defend it, right? It's like when everyone's saying
to me, like, you slept with these five
different people. This is a barista at
Starbucks. Right. They don't,
they have like a high school. Right. Right. Yeah.
But what I'm saying is when someone's going to levy
accusations towards you, if other
people want to buy into them, then it should be the responsibility of the person making the
accusations to prove that, not the responsibility of the person denying them to prove it.
It's like, have you ever seen that meme of the Amazon box where it's like, my box didn't
arrive? They're like, send us a picture as proof. And someone just like takes the picture of their
hand and they're like, what do I send? You know, it's like, how do I prove to you that I haven't
slept with these five people in order to get some type of standing in my career? How do I prove that
I didn't do that.
Yeah.
Do I produce every single text message exchange that I've ever had with this person?
Like, how do I, what's the metric?
How do I go about doing that?
There's a ton of people that are just, that they like to say just to get a reaction.
Right.
Their whole thing is to get a reaction.
Unfortunately, there's a massive amount of people leaving comments simply to get a reaction.
And they don't really care whether it's a good reaction or it's a bad reaction.
Right.
Yeah.
And we noticed that and immediately, that's why we kind of pulled back in there.
Like, we're just going to remain blameless.
Like, we're not going to purporting.
portrayed this, even though it went on for 28 days straight, this crazy campaign. But basically,
when we can't prove the accusations aren't true, it becomes a reality in the public's fear.
So all of our sponsorship opportunities dry up. Everything that we post that would have worked
before got us 100 to 200,000 is now getting like 4 to 5,000 views. It's not worth it.
We've been like mass of like unfollowed and disliked, you know, which obviously says,
signals to the algorithm, like something's happened with this person. They were dropping off.
It just got to that point where it was just like, man, everything we post, it's making everything
worse. And then that put us into a position where I'm like, oh, shoot, like we went all in on this
thing. And I dropped all my clients. And we believed in this so much, I have to now go find other
work and figure this out because we have to pay the bills. And we paid for this whole event.
And now all of our savings are gone. And it's like, this is real, you know?
It was really rough at the time as well, because surely after.
of this happened. I got pregnant. We were...
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Trying to get pregnant, that was like one of our immediate goals as soon as we got
married.
We wanted that honeymoon baby.
And so becoming pregnant and dealing with all of this was also a very conscious decision
to step aside from content because I didn't want to do anything to add stress onto
the pregnancy.
Like high levels of stress can really adversely affect a pregnancy.
It can result in miscarriage.
And unfortunately, I don't know if it's due to everything that was occurring or if it was, you know, just nature running its course.
But that is what happened.
I did end up miscarriageing in the last like month and a half.
So, you know, everything that we did to try to insulate ourselves from the drama for like strategic reasons, but also for psychological reasons and for the benefit of our baby, it was all.
It was in vain.
It was for nothing.
Yeah, I mean, it got really bad there.
It's like imagine you wake up every day and your phone's blowing up from people online accusing
your wife of doing some very degenerate and heinous things and making fun of you for being okay
with it and AI editing you in the cut chair and like they called me, they said I was a transgender
and we got married for a green card and, you know, all this stuff.
You know, it was persistent every single day.
are other influencers jumping on the bandwagon?
Is it just comment?
A hundred percent.
Yeah, I mean, they're reporting on it.
So they're reacting.
So, for example, Hassam Piker was a big one.
And then Nick Fuentes, even up until like I think last week,
he even mentioned me on his podcast again, brought up the event.
Call me Amy Dangerous Slut, which is, of course, like all of this precipitated from the
lies and the rumors that Lauren came out with when the pushback to the event started.
So, yeah, it all precipitated from that.
And the biggest names in the space across the political spectrum were reporting on me and this.
We call it like Epstein-level blackmail that actually isn't even real blackmail.
It was completely fabricated and completely made up.
In the age of AI, it's so crazy.
They don't even need to have anything on you.
Yeah, they don't need to have anything on you.
They can make it.
Yeah.
Like, that was doctored text that went out the AI and then plus the entire narrative, like everything.
And so now it's crazy.
When I'm on Twitter and you see news being reported or you see somebody saying something
about someone, you really need to take it with a grain of soul.
I mean, and of course most reporters know that.
But for the average person scrolling on their feed, they just kind of accept it as the
truth.
If they see...
I don't believe anything anymore.
After all this stuff, it is just like, I see drama on somebody.
And I'm like, that's probably not even real, you know?
Right.
But yeah, no, it was all day, every day to the point where we were both.
pretty sad about it and kind of like arguing.
And it had some issues just personally,
just me reading all this stuff
because we were also screenshoting everything
and logging everything.
I took her off of socials completely
because I'm like, I don't even want you to see it.
But I'm on my own making sure everything is logged
because things would get deleted
and we had to submit everything to the cops, right?
And so I'm just getting upset
and we eventually get to the point
where we're just like, so down bad,
I call a, like, emergency therapist hotline thing.
And they sent out a unit to our house
that was, like, seeing if we were okay, right?
And the therapist gets there,
and the therapist knows who we are.
And knows about the drama.
It has been following the story.
And then during those same days,
I'm getting calls for my family,
being like, hey, you just married this girl last month,
and now you're all over my feed,
and you're a cuck, and you're a beta,
and she's a huge horror, like, why'd you do this?
Like, what's going on? Are you okay?
Like, like, did she...
They're just automatically believing.
Yeah.
Did she lie to you and you're just figuring it all out now?
Or are you okay with it and you actually are a cuck?
I'm just like, blown away.
I'm blown away.
Are we having this conversation?
It's crazy.
People I haven't spoken to since high school,
creating new accounts to hate on me with all this.
For some weird cloud, it got to the point.
The cloud chasing is so crazy.
It transcends even being online.
Yeah.
She had this friend here.
Tell him about Kenny.
Yeah.
So here's the other thing that Lauren does because I'm not the first person who she's targeted with this.
How do you know that?
Because I've spoken to the other victims.
And in fact, she leveraged what she was doing to me as a warning to these other victims saying, I can do this to you.
Look up what's happening to Amy Dangerfield online.
I did that and I will do the exact same thing to you.
So one of the influences that she had issues with was Stephen Benjamin.
know, Destiny. He's a very famous, like, liberal streamer who she was interested in. She wanted to date.
He rejected her, and that's what kind of precipitated all of that and made her run her campaign against
him. But there's also this other girl who's a comedian out in Austin doing the exact same thing.
All of this ended up being used as evidence. But what she does is she essentially tap roots the people
in your life and she figures out if she can use them as a weapon against you. So with me, for
example, she recruited two people. Number one was someone who I actually thought was like one of my
best friends. I'd been friends with this person since 2020, 2021, so a while now, one of the few
people who I spoke to nearly every day. I mean, you'd have times where, you know, maybe you reach out
like once a month, but, you know, it's also a friendship where we're just talking day to day
about different things. We may not see each other all the time, but this is a very good friend
who's actually helped me a lot throughout my life,
but she actually, for some reason,
I'm not sure whether she told this individual something
that made him mad or maybe want to hurt me
because of some lie that she spun.
But he came out and said that, yes, the rumors are true,
that Daniel is a cock, that he has sex with me and Daniel watches,
and Daniel's okay with that.
And because this is someone who I'd been friends with
for like five years.
With no social media, by the way.
Just comes out to say this just to jump on the train
and then is talking to all of our influencer friends
being like, oh yeah, no, it's true.
She sends me nudes.
He's okay with it.
And this guy's like a fat ogre.
Like he's not an attractive guy.
He's like in and then there was this other cat
that was like her American father
when she came over here and was working in a business.
He kind of took her under her wing.
Under his wing, yeah.
He was like a mentor to me.
He became kind of like a father figure.
I lost my dad when I was really young.
And so he became a father figure to me.
I spent Christmases with him, Thanksgiving's, with him and his family.
He had three children as well.
And she, Lauren, had recruited my ex-boyfriend.
And again, I don't know what she said to him because me and him ended on amicable terms.
But he then came out and said that this person who was like my mentor was my sugar daddy.
And he was paying me for sex, basically.
This person who, again, it's like, he's like a dad to be.
It's so disturbing.
I think she was even saying that he used to pimp her out.
Yeah.
And used to drive her around for business, deals and drop her off at a client's house.
And she would sleep with them and then they'd get the deal.
And you go to an attorney at some point?
Oh, yeah.
Or to the police directly?
Both.
Both.
Wouldn't this be FBI?
I don't know.
How does that work?
So what we did was we went to the police station purely to file a restraining order at first.
So we're speaking to the intake officer,
he's taking down all of the information.
And he was like, you know,
you have grounds to file like a criminal complaint as well,
especially with the AI and things like this.
This is illegal.
These carry up to five-year prison sentences.
And so he asked us if we want to file a criminal case as well.
And so the two kind of launched simultaneously.
I wrote up the complaint for the restraining order.
I did that myself without an attorney.
I just included the timeline,
all of the screenshots, all of the evidence.
And again, it's a higher burden of proof because I'm like the social figure, right?
Yeah.
But as soon as you bring AI things like this into the equation, it becomes something else entirely.
So they granted the TRO that very same day.
She was actually served the next day and then proceeded to actually try to get rid of a lot of the evidence.
She deleted a lot of the fake accounts, including the worst of which that I hadn't even seen yet at the time that I filed the complaint because it was in my other inbox.
You know how on Instagram you have your main inbox.
and then you have your other, which are people who don't follow you.
So she made a fake account and was replying to any story post that I made,
and replying to any story posts that I made online with the exact location of where I was when I posted it.
So for example, like just taking a picture at church, crossing the background,
nothing super memorable so far as landmarks go.
She's not from Sarasota, so she doesn't know the area.
She's researching using Google and I guess chat.
or whatever it is to figure out exactly where I am and she's replying back with the exact
physical location I was where I posted it.
Saying, oh, it's crazy that you're posting your location right now.
And it's, we're not posting our location.
She did reply to you, you're on this rooftop, I think on the eighth to tenth floor,
you're here, you're doing this.
So she's tracking all of our moves and making threatening remarks being like,
you guys better watch out.
It's risky that you're posting your location.
It's like, why?
But you're not posting your location.
No.
We're posting a sunset and then you're geolocating us and figuring out what floor we're on.
Like this is...
It's very normal for people to post a little video or a picture of where they are.
You know, especially if you don't put location tags,
people shouldn't be able to figure out exactly where you are
and use that information in a way that's threatening against you, right?
And so we discover all of these and that's when everything became a lot simpler
because it moved past defamation and this AI stuff.
this becomes felony stalking.
She's actually tracking me.
And very quickly, the police are able to ascertain a subpoena.
They're able to deliver that to Instagram
and confirm very quickly that her name and phone number
were associated with that account.
And when we got that subpoena back,
I presented it to an attorney.
So once the TRO got granted,
you then have court two weeks after, right?
She hired an attorney.
So I hired an attorney.
And basically, I informed him that, you know,
this subpoena exists.
it's confirmed and, you know, validated that this is definitely her doing it.
And he communicated with her attorney.
And basically, she did not want any of that evidence on the record.
She did not even want to go to court and have that revealed since it wasn't in the initial filing.
And so they agreed to sign the restraining order without going to court so long as that evidence was not put onto the record.
Because I think she knows that a-
She knows, I can't go in front of a judge.
Right.
I can't, I can't, I can't let this, I can't let this, you know, proceed because it's just, there's, it's got to go really, really bad for me.
She'll lose her, her ball license.
I'm still figuring out how I want to handle that if I want to file a complaint or not, but I think at the end of the day, everything is going to come out in the wash with the criminal investigation.
When they bring her to trial, they have, you know, very firm evidence because they have the subpoenas confirming it was her.
So I think I'm just going to let her deal with those repercussions when the criminal case comes.
But at least for now, she can't do anything.
She has to stop.
How long ago was this?
This is approved like, what, two weeks ago?
Something like that.
Yeah.
So this is.
Has she, I mean, I'm assuming when she got served the subpoena, she must have been like, holy shit.
Exactly.
You know, like, unfortunately, some people, they'll get served.
It doesn't change anything for them.
It did, oh, if I could just talk to her.
If I get, but this is different.
That's usually when it's like a guy or a girl that.
sure that wants to get back together with that you know they're there there's so a love if i could just
talk to you and just explain it and they're trying to know you can't come within 500 feet you can't call
me can't this but this is this is different she's she has to stop her campaign so that's a that one so
she probably was like holy shit right she got that and she probably got scared and thought oh this could
have repercussions yeah and then but she went on for like 28 days straight and it's it blows my mind
that she didn't see it at some point being like, you know what, maybe I'm taking this a little far.
But now we are here.
Well, she'll either dig in or she'll shift to somebody else.
And that's what she's doing.
I mean, but what's crazy is she did stop the attacks against me once she got served,
but it's like all of this time and training they take to pass the Florida bar must have evaded
her again because she reached out to my witness, her client, and says, you can't do this to your
attorney.
You cannot be a witness for this other person, which classifies as witness intimidation, by the way.
You can't actually do that.
It's very illegal to do that.
And maybe the average person wouldn't know that.
But as an attorney, she does not have the privilege of being able to say, oh, I didn't know.
She can't claim ignorance to that respect.
She's meant to know the law.
Yeah, yeah.
So not.
Yeah.
It'd be different.
Yeah.
Right.
If you were like, oh, I don't know.
Right.
You know, damn what.
You're a criminal defense attorney.
Right.
You've had this conversation.
conversation with your client. Don't contact them. Don't contact somebody else to contact them.
Exactly. And so here we are 14 grand later in lawyer fees over the past two months.
Because another aspect of this that nobody knows yet, I don't think we've explained this at all.
But when we got married in Vegas, we didn't get legally married. We got like spiritually married
so we could be married and move in together. And we didn't really care about the government
paper and all this stuff. But a big part of that was the fact that she's been working on her own
citizenship for like eight years now. Yeah, I was going through like a special immigrant green card.
It's like a lot longer and more complicated process. It takes about five years. And so my status was,
I mean, I've done basically everything. It was in the final stages of pending waiting for approval.
And then when all of the drama started unfolding and she launched this defamation campaign,
people started saying that they were going to contact ICE saying that I was speaking anti-Semitically,
because now there's laws that are coming on the books that can actually prohibit people from getting green cards or actually retract their green card if they speak in a way that is deemed to be anti-Semitic.
And so people were threatening to do that to me and essentially like undo this work that I'd done over the last five years to, you know, finally get that standing within the country.
So she was like on the brink of getting it on her own.
Like right there. And that's why we couldn't get married because if we got married and pursued a marriage green card, it would actually start the process.
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And so we're like, let's just get spiritually married,
move in, start our lives together, whatever.
But then these attacks, they even tried to get me deported.
They were calling ice on me.
And so we had to get legally married, start the whole thing over again.
All the stress, $20,000 that she's spent over the past five years
trying to get this thing through, wiped out, doesn't matter,
back to square one, all because of this craziness.
So we intentionally set out.
to find a lawyer who was maybe a little bit more sensitive to our views on free speech and our
concerns about what was coming down the pipeline with, you know, conflating genuine political
discourse with anti-Semitism. And, you know, have you heard of this? Is this happening? Is this something
you can protect me from? And we found someone who was in like ideological kind of agreement with us
and said that he would help us get the green card and then protect me if any attacks were to come
against us in that sense. So that was a relief. But that's also like five.
five years have worked down the drain for what, you know, for this girl to launch her defamation
campaign, have her five minutes of fame. Like, I don't know where she gets off or what she actually
gets from this, but unfortunately it did have like real world implications for our lives.
It's almost really scary because I feel like people, they understand that influencers, like,
or they might not understand. They think influencers make all this money and that it's a super easy
job and that it's all chill. The reality of it is, unless you're like really big, you're,
kind of just getting by
and you're doing it for the love of the game
and it's a lot of work
it's a lot of effort
that you put into this
and so it's like
I feel like there's not a lot
of sensitivity
to this happening
but it's just crazy to me
how one person
can cause this much damage
and do do all this stuff
one of our sources
told us something very interesting
one of the people that came out
against her was a girl that she
was on the Fresh and Fit
show and she was friendly with
and like in a group with years ago.
She does only fans now
and apparently Lauren reached out to her
unconfirmed but allegedly
paid her off to then come out
online and be like, yeah, oh I know
Amy, she slept with this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy
did all this stuff and just
that was a whole other layer of
oh Amy knew this girl and now she's coming out and saying all the stuff
it must be true.
But the two sources were this criminal
defense lawyer roommate with the Vibendetta for a birthday and in OnlyFans, she describes herself as a
witch. And so all these Catholic bros are listening to these two girls as the source, the main
source to completely ruin our lives, attempt to ruin our marriage. They were tweeting at me every
day saying like, oh, you've got to divorce her. I bet you could get out like so easy because
she didn't tell you all this stuff and like trying to get in the middle of our lives and just crazy.
Yeah, it's crazy
But it brought us closer than ever
I will say
Like there was a little bit of
Fighting and like high pressure in the beginning
But I'm actually
In a weird way like grateful for the way
Everything unfolded because we're already
Best Friends before we got married
We had such a close friendship before we even started dating
We said I love you the day one of dating
Because we're already such close friends
And in a weird way
This whole thing has just made us so much closer
And just lean on each other and lean on God
And so
Yeah, this month has been like the best month
of marriage of all time. It's been great. Yeah. So that's that's one positive, at least,
in the slow of everything else. Now that the restraining order is in place, though, I'm excited to
kind of get back into the game a little bit, maybe not at the level that I was. I guess I'm a
little bit black-pilled on American politics for the time being at least, so maybe not so much
content in that sense, but I'm excited to jump into things again. So psychologically,
what do you think is wrong with this woman? I mean, I,
Not that any of us are, you know, psychics, psychologists or anything.
But I just, for my own, you know, personal experience.
Right.
When I went into, you know, federal prison is that, so I don't know if you know this,
you know, Ronald Reagan pulled funding for almost all the mental hospitals in the United States
when he kind of redid the federal system.
So he, Reagan was in charge of, used to be the federal prison system or criminal system had probation.
you got like, gosh, I think it was like 30.
You had to do like 65% of your time,
but you also had probation.
You could get probation.
Like it was a very lax system, right?
It was much like the European system.
And they said, no, no, from now on, you're doing 85% of your time.
You're done.
Now, Trump has changed a lot of that.
But so they started handing out these draconian sentences.
And one of the ways they did that was one of the things that they did was they cut a massive
amount of funding for mental hospitals.
And here's what they said was, well,
those people if they commit crimes will end up in prison and they'll get help there.
I'm sure there's no help. No, that's not true. There is some help. There's some help. Like,
there is a psychiatrist. You know, they will talk to you, but that's, and you'll get drugs.
It's really drugging them and talking to it's like, I just, maybe, maybe. And then they just end up in
the shoe. So the shoes, you go in the shoe and you just, there are guys that are just in there
all the time banging on the wall, screaming and hollering. Yeah, it's a, the shoe is 50% mental
hospital. But because there are so many people with mentally ill inmates in there, you're surrounded
by people that have bipolar, schizophrenia. I mean, God, there's, there's real, they've real issues in
there. You know, they have obsessive consultive disorder. And I'm sure prison doesn't make it any better.
Sure. You know, it's like, if anything worse. Yeah. I'm sure. So I'm one. So I'm one.
wondering, because I've been around people that, I'll tell this one story real quick.
And then, so just give me a second.
Like I, one point, I worked in the library, right?
I taught GED.
I didn't bunch of stuff.
But at one time, point, probably for a year, I worked in the library.
And there was another guy that had been working there for probably four or five years.
And he, we talked all the time.
Like, you know, you can have these conversations.
You don't realize that you can have conversations that you would never have out here.
Like, and I always talked about this.
Like, I bet you for weeks on in one time, me and a group of guys had a,
had a conversation that was ongoing in bits and pieces about what would make the best
reboot in Hollywood.
Like,
they should redo Oceans 11.
They should do it.
Like,
there's all these things.
Oh,
what about us?
Oh,
what about so.
You know,
we'd be walking by each other in the, on the compound during moves.
And you're,
you have like 10 minutes to get where you're going.
You would, hey, I was thinking about it.
Capricorn 1.
Capricorn.
Oh, shit.
That was that.
O.J. Simpson was in that.
Oh, my God.
It would be amazing.
And you keep going, right?
So, but I would have these conversations, this guy for hours.
I mean, we had great conversations.
And one day, I mentioned the, uh, Timothy May Bay, the Oklahoma city bomber.
And he went, you know, that's my case, right?
And I went, what?
That's my case.
And I went, that's your case?
There's only, there's only a couple of guys involved in that case.
He wasn't one of them.
And I was, what do you mean?
He said, yeah.
He said, it was in the middle of fighting my case.
and they were storing all of my evidence at the FBI headquarters in the Oklahoma City
Federal Building.
By the way, they don't store, first of all, he's out of Florida.
They're not storing your shit there.
Right.
And he says, yeah, and the government bombed the building specifically so that they could say
they'd lost all the evidence in the bombing.
Huh.
Really?
It was just delusional.
And then we proceeded to have a 25-minute conversation.
and the more he talked, the more I realized, like, oh, my God, you're so insane.
You've been insane this whole time?
I never knew you were insane.
You're so crazy.
Like, and the more he talked, I was like, it's so much worse than I, every time.
Every other minute, it's getting worse.
It's not like you're bringing this together at some point.
Right.
And when he kind of finally wrapped it up, I was like, wow, bro, I had no.
I realized I was so, I realized it was so far beyond anything that I could comprehend,
that I realized there was nothing to do other than saying.
holy shit bro, like that's crazy.
Yeah.
That's nuts.
Like lean into it, bro.
Sure.
Right.
Sure.
I've been talking to people before in the yard and they're like, yeah, bro, let's talk underneath the shade.
And you talk to them a couple times and you have normal conversation.
And then one day, this is out in like the rec yard.
And one day you realize, you're like, yeah, bro, I'm, no, let's stay.
It's fine.
It's, you know, it's cool out.
Is it, no.
Why are you going to stay over there?
You know, why don't go over there?
It's like, bro, you understand they're tracking me, man.
Right.
What?
Who?
The government, bro.
They're tracking me.
The satellites are tracking me.
We need to stand under the shader.
I can't talk to you, bro.
They can read my lips.
They can hear.
And you're like, oh.
Yeah.
All time.
It's been years.
Yeah.
We've been standing under the shade.
I've been standing under the overhang with you.
Right.
And you've been crazy this whole time.
Yeah.
It was like, you know, was this is this one thing.
It was just one little thing.
Yeah.
I mean, a compulsive liar is bad, but when somebody actually believes their lies, these are the dangerous people, believe their fabrications, right?
Right.
But it's not even, I mean, I'm saying, I don't know about her because, but this, I don't know, I don't know about her, but to me, pathological liars tend to, well, I don't know.
That's not true.
Some people can get really, really, it depends on, I think, if they're successful.
So I don't know that she's, I mean, she's not.
She's got an agenda.
Pathological liars simply lie because they enjoy it.
Right.
She seems to have a combination of kind of an obsessive, compulsive disorder.
It doesn't seem to be a disorder with her.
She's very successful at it.
If she could focus on the right thing, she'd probably be a billionaire.
Exactly.
But she's focusing on you.
And I'm wondering, like, what is that that my mother used to always say my father had to have somebody to, somebody to hate?
And I was like, and I never noticed it, but every once in a while, she said, he will, your father will decide he dislikes someone for no reason.
They'll give him some reason.
And then from that point on, he despises that person.
And any time you bring up their name, he'll say, that guy's a fucking asshole.
He's a fucking, yeah, that guy's a fucking jerk off.
But that was really it.
He wasn't going after him.
Sure.
He just decided he didn't like them and they were a horrible human being.
But you guys were best friends for him.
You were very good friends for you.
There were warning signs, though, and like, you know, hindsight's always 20-20.
But, like, so for example, the reason why we moved in together is because she was actually kicked out of two prior roommate situations.
One of these roommates was actually a mutual friend of ours.
We were close, and we were texting about it.
And she was telling me that she needs Lauren to move out because they get into these disagreements where Lauren is almost, she's espousing these things about the way a fight went or, like, a roommate disagreement went.
that is so opposite of what happened in reality,
but she's fully believing it, right?
So this girl, Pixie,
she's saying she almost felt gaslit by her at the time,
but she doesn't think that she's doing it intentionally.
She just believes her own lies, right?
So that was the first thing that just from that alone,
I should have said, I probably shouldn't move in with this girl, right?
But there were qualities that I really loved and admired about her, though.
Like, she's probably one of the most intelligent people
that I've ever met.
She has a pure math degree plus the law degree.
Like, she's a brilliant person, and she's really funny.
So even though there were these red flags,
it's also difficult for me to have close female friendships
that don't get along with a lot of girls.
And we just clicked.
I admired her intelligence.
I admired her sense of humor.
So it's kind of willing to let these other things go.
But she had that form of roommate situation.
The main thing that I was really concerned about
when we were moving in together is, like,
Lauren loves to vent and probably the more accurate term is bitch and complain about people in her life.
And since we first met, she's been telling me these stories about people that, you know,
they've just done so terrible by her and she's so hard done by.
When we first met, I'm thinking, this poor woman, man, she's had a rough go of it.
Every guy she's been with, every employer, everything that happens to her, man.
She's just had a bad set of cards handed to her.
She's had a rough life.
people don't treat her well.
Now, in retrospect, I'm realizing, no, she was the problem in all of these stories that she told me.
And she is somehow in her head shifted it to somehow make herself out to be the victim of everything.
I mean, so that was really the forewarning that I had the writing in the wall.
But so far as pathologizing it to figure out what psychological condition she has, like, I don't know, what do you think?
but I think the root cause of a lot of it is this,
I don't know if it's like desire to clout chase,
but maybe connection harvesting.
She likes the idea of being in the scene.
She doesn't necessarily want to film stuff
and go on podcasts for her own self.
She just likes to be around it.
And so she, I mean, she kind of exposed herself
in a lot of these podcasts that she was doing on her.
She admitted she slept with over 100 guys.
And she only sleeps with them if they have clout
and subscribers and money.
And so she tries to get into these circles so that she can kind of feel.
What is that?
The narcissistic personality, I guess.
So she can be like, oh, I know him.
Yeah, we hang out.
You know, like that type of energy.
And even people were DMing her being like, yeah, when she moved to Austin,
she was like bragging that she was like best friends with you.
And like, she's like in the scene and like all this stuff.
So I think that could be it.
But like her recall of situations are just like, it's just so bad and so like wrong.
So, like, for example, during our friendship, yeah, slightly enough.
Right, like to where she's the victim.
So, like, during our friendship, there were a couple intimate, like, she was dating two guys, different times.
But the relationships went awry.
And when she is explaining to me what happened and I'm looking at it objectively, it's like, this is your fault.
Like, you did this.
You were obsessively texting him.
He was five minutes late.
You made him feel like a jerk for being five minutes late to respond to a text, things like this.
But the way she would frame it to me is like, oh, no, like he doesn't like my body count or this or that.
Or so, like, he's, you know, she just completely flip things around to make herself out to be the victim when she was very much the perpetrator in the situation or the cause for the undoing of a situation.
And, Matt, I know that you sit across this table every week and you talk to criminals, people that have murdered people, people that have been to prison, you know, these interesting crimes that these true crime documentaries kind of link on to.
And I understand that this, the content of this podcast might not be the most heart racing,
interesting topic.
But I do think it's a really important thing to talk about in this day and age because
it is amazing what is happening, even on a scale outside of the influencer's fear.
Her therapist, when he came over to the house, was talking about how he got scammed.
And they made a fake video of him, you know, jerking off.
jerking off.
And they're like,
we will send this to your whole family
and this and that if you don't pay.
We talk to another,
because we've been dealing with this for a bit.
We talk to people,
and it's interesting what comes out.
There was this one guy that we spoke to
who got blackmailed,
paid him five grand.
Hits them back the next week and goes,
hey, I need another five grand.
Yeah, it won't stop.
You can't pay it.
He died.
And then he didn't pay it,
and then it got sent out.
And so, like,
this type of sex tortation is happening all the time.
I personally know this high school girl
who had some kids in her school
makes some explicit images
of her using AI.
spread it across all the group chats.
Now, that's a very, very small scale, just in the school.
It shouldn't feel like that big of a deal.
It's obviously terrible.
But I think that this problem, it goes so beyond celebrities,
goes so beyond influencers, small scale.
I know that people might not have sympathy
because we're in the public eye, whatever that means.
But it's happening all the time all over,
and it's ramping up.
And it could happen to you.
Yeah.
Well, I told you about Tom Simon as a retired FBI agent
that we have on.
Actually, we're starting a channel together.
Let's go.
Colby's back over the Colby goes.
Yeah.
So, yeah, we do once a month.
We do a, like, a game show.
He comes on.
He does like 10 or 12 stories.
At this point, it will be once a week.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we're about to turn it into once a week.
Nice.
Yeah.
But anyway, but he's a retired FBI agent.
And he, so he retired after 26 years and he became an FBI private investigator.
So, but because of the,
the show, he has a lot of people to reach out to him just to ask him questions.
Sure.
And he's had, he's like, listen, at least at least at a minimum of once a week.
He said, I have a, like a teenager that reaches out to me that says, hey, I started this
kind of a roommate.
And sometimes it's different.
Very, it varies.
Sure.
But sometimes a lot of times it's some guy that some girl talked to online and thought they
kind of were having a little relationship.
And the guy sent her a picture, some pictures or a little video.
and so he said, can you send me stuff?
And so she did, or it might be a guy that sends some girl, he thinks.
But really, it's some Nigerian in Africa that.
And then once they get it, they're like, okay, well, you know, because we've been doing
this for a month, you know, I have several videos.
I know you're where you live.
I know your parents' name.
And I know your friends.
I'm now friends with all of your friends on Instagram.
I'm going to send this video to all of your friends.
unless you send me 500 bucks.
Or they'll say, send me more videos.
And sometimes they'll send more videos because now they're selling them.
And this is now a 15-year-old or whatever.
They'll take it and they're putting it up online.
Or maybe they're old enough that they think they have money, send me money.
Because 500 bucks to a Nigerian is like getting a check for $5,000.
So they do this.
And so they contact him.
They're like, I don't know what to do.
How do I make this stop?
And he has to say, stop.
he has to say block them on everything and ignore them from now on.
Yep. But they're going to do this. That's it. And here's the thing. You think,
okay, well, you shouldn't be sending pictures. That's not the point. The point is, is that if it does go out,
there are teenagers that kill themselves. Oh, yeah. It's not like, oh, there's that one case.
No, no, there's lots of cases where teenagers will kill themselves. Obviously, we're adults.
You're not going to do that. But, I don't know, some people might.
Yeah, sure. Especially when it's your career and your reputation. Right. And your family's
and call you and ask you.
This is that same thing only on a much larger scale.
Right.
What a teenager thinks is important.
You know, if you sent a picture.
I sent you a fucking video, not that I would, but I did.
And you said, I'm going to send it to all you.
Fucking send that shit.
Right.
Give a shit.
Yeah.
But, but.
It feels like the end of the world.
For someone saying, everything feels like the end of the world when you're, when you're
young, when you're in those teenage years especially.
But in this case, what she did, you know, was almost, was kind of the end of the world.
I had a, you both had a career that's, that's blowing up.
You were at the point where you just, I just have to kick back and keep doing what I'm doing.
And it will continue to grow.
And so will my, my base and everything else.
And she completely disheeled that and crushed it.
And, you know, luckily, I mean, you two are pretty strong and you, you know, you're strong enough that you were able to, you know, weather the storm.
And that she was also, I mean, extremely reckless.
Yeah.
I mean, she was literally posting.
pictures of herself in the comments of the, you know, the fake accounts that she was using to harass me
and disseminate this fake revenge.
Right.
It's like almost like she was so cocky.
Her ego was so big.
There was someone who was actually like, this isn't Lauren.
You only have 17 followers.
And she uploaded a video of herself saying, I only made this account to harass Amy and to make
fun of the Amy situation.
Yes, this is me.
It's me doing this.
That is how like.
That video is so hilarious because that account was actually made in like 2021.
And she, if you scroll down on the account, she was doing this calling people peddows and stuff like this for like four years on this account, using it to do this same thing that she's doing to her, but against other people.
And I think this is the first time she's dealt with like repercussions of that, you know, like with the restraining order coming through with the criminal case that's also coming down the pipeline.
10 years ago, it may not have been as bad.
But now there are laws saying, no, this isn't, we're not fucking around.
You can't.
Right.
You can't do this.
Yeah.
I mean, I think if it was just the like the name calling and going off to my employees and like
constructing this narrative that I'm a whore and attacking me from fake accounts, I think
if it was just that, we probably would have just said whatever.
Like, it is what it is.
I don't even think there would have been a case there, to be honest, because being an
influencer that standard is higher.
But when the AI process involved, when you start tracking somebody with their physical
location replying to them with where they are to try to, like, intimidate them and make them
fear for their safety, that's a whole other thing. So hopefully, this has
woken her up. I mean, I don't know if it has, honestly, though. When I first started talking to
my lawyer, he was in a conversation with a person counsel. And he'd mentioned to me, like,
she's, you know, I wouldn't be too worried about her, even if this doesn't go through because
her lawyer told me that she's in therapy now. She's in, she's in therapy and she's dealing with
stuff. I mean, like a week later, I get a message from this other girl who she was attacking
this comedian out in Austin saying she's just started a whole new campaign against me,
where she's reached out to my ex-boyfriend and told him that I'm going around saying that he
sexually abused me. And now this is getting into the comedy scene. So she's escalating it now for
other people. Who's the comedian? I can't say her name. But she's she, she is a podcast in Austin.
Let me just put it. Is she kind of conservative base where she? No, not really.
actually.
I was going to say,
there's so many out there in Austin,
and there's this one that does,
she's very,
she does a bunch of,
I'll show you later.
She's fucking hilarious.
I'll tell you off,
I just don't know if she would want
up like on video.
No,
that's fine.
Go ahead.
You see things escalate and escalate
and escalate and it's like,
maybe it would have just stopped
at her tracking my location.
Maybe she would have never actually
done anything physically.
I mean,
she did show up to where we were
the first time that we traveled
when we,
when we went out to, yeah,
Daytona.
Daytona.
So, I mean, but who knows where it would have escalated if it had been unchecked?
I mean, we changed our locks.
I was carrying.
We changed our locks.
We stopped going to our church.
It literally impacted our entire day-to-day lives.
Do you know where she lives, though?
Yeah, she lives in Austin.
You want to know a funny thing, how I served her.
I didn't have her address.
But, you know, because I know her character now,
and I know the nature of how some of her former relationships have gone,
When she first moved to Austin, she'd texted me the profile of this guy and was like,
this is the guy I'm dating in Austin.
Like, isn't he great?
And so as all of this is unfolding and I'm trying to serve her and I need to write down an address,
I'm like, how can I find this?
What could I do?
I'm going through our messages.
I see this Instagram.
I reach out to the guy because knowing how it goes with Lauren, all of her relationships
and badly and it's always her fault.
And so I reach out to him.
I'm like, listen, I don't know if you're still with her, but I'm going through all this stuff.
I need to file a restraining order.
Do you happen to know her address?
Within five minutes, he responded.
This is her address.
Yeah, she's crazy.
That woman is crazy.
Here's the address.
Good luck with everything.
So that's how I served her.
In fact.
She didn't have a lot of friends.
Yeah.
I mean, well, she does.
She makes friends.
But then she, again, she with women either buys their attention.
She love bombs them with gifts and money and all of these things.
And with guys, she sleeps with them.
And she's open about that.
She expresses this on her own.
And then when the person isn't serving what?
whatever her agenda is.
I don't even know how to explain it.
Either, you know, politically, you piss her off,
or she can't use you for whatever end she's hoping to get.
That's when she flips.
And unfortunately, I'm just the latest case of her doing this.
But I really hope that the action that we've taken to put us up to this
will actually maybe make her reflect.
Maybe she'll actually be honest with this therapist that she's apparently seeing.
And maybe he'll say, hey, maybe after all of this,
the lesson is you don't continue attacking comedians in Austin
and these other influences online.
Like maybe focus on your own life.
But the hardest thing for me out of all of this was just like realizing something about human nature.
Because I don't have, I haven't had a lot of really close friends throughout my life.
She was one of them.
This Kenny guy that I mentioned who she colluded with was one of them.
And so when you've had very few close people in your life who like you really love and know and trust.
And then two of them betray you like that seemingly out of the blue,
for an agenda and an end that you don't quite understand it, really,
fucks up your perception of, like, humanity and trust.
And, like, can I trust people?
What are friendships?
What's the point of a friendship when this person is just going to try to fuck me over down
the road?
And so that's been a very difficult thing for me is, like, trusting people, you know?
When you go through something like this, it's like, on the surface,
someone can seem like a great person who loves and cares about you.
And then they go and doing something
Like I wouldn't have done the stuff that she's done to me
To an enemy
Because I'm just not wired that way
So it's hard for me to put myself in like the mindset
All the shoes of someone who can
And I think that's being one of the hardest things
Is like the psychological impact of like
A human's life?
This is this just human nature?
I felt something like that on the influencer side of things
When everybody was starting to jump in
Being like yeah I slept with her too
Try to get some clout
And these are guys that we were just on the phone with
Talking about a collab last week
and we're totally chill with and everything's fine
and now you're posting an AI picture of you
with my wife in bed with you
for clicks for 20,000 impressions
on X and 100 likes
like you're tarnishing the relationship for what
it's like I'd reach out
and they'd be like, why did you post that?
And you go well I had to comment.
No, you actually didn't need to do anything about this.
Like we don't need to be the talk of the town all month
and now it's like
we've become a meme
of this character that they've portrayed us as
Right, which is completely fabricated.
It's a fabricated image.
And no matter how much we say it's not true or the streamers on stream go, guys, that's not true.
They'll clip that and be like, look at his eyes and see how they look down.
And like, he's lying.
He's lying.
I've gotten that.
He's looking to the left.
Right.
He looked at the left just before he said like.
He touched his nerves right as he said that.
Completely bullshit voodoo science that means nothing.
But it's like, it's just so weird when when you're talking with these people and working with these people.
collaborating and you align on so many different things and then they see an opportunity to tear
you down and they take it and then they completely view you as that thing and now our collaborations
our sponsors our relationships in the industry have gone away and we're starting scratch there's
been Isabella and Josiah Moody those are the only two influencers that have really stuck by our
side and actually like cared and reached out and like so Ellis Jones he told so this is a guy that
I came on the podcast.
He told us a story.
It's just one of many stories he has, by the way.
He writes a crime books.
He writes lots of books.
This is a similar thing, but listen, this is straight out of a fucking 1980s movie.
This guy, he has two different residences.
One's down here, one's in, I don't even know where, somewhere up north, one of the square states up north.
So he's up, let's say Utah.
Is Utah Square?
Oklahoma?
Square.
Square, yeah.
So some.
90 degrees angles in there.
So in Oklahoma.
And so he's living.
So he's down here.
He did our podcast.
He's down here.
And one day he's texting me.
And he's like,
hey man.
He's like,
are you,
we okay?
And I was like,
yeah,
why?
I don't know,
because there's somebody
who's been texting me.
And they're basically saying,
I think they must have seen me on your podcast.
And they're like saying fucked up stuff.
And I can't remember what it was exactly.
I was like,
uh,
okay.
He's like,
Like, are you okay? Like, like, you're angry with me or that you think I'm a piece of garbage
or whatever. I was like, oh, I don't think that at all. Right. You know, I was like, I'm no problem
with you at all. We'd stayed in contact. And I was like, yeah, like, oh, it's just really weird.
Okay. Whatever. So then it comes on, then later, it keeps going. People are, the guys going on
different accounts and saying stuff. And then, so there's all this stuff where this person's
attacking him a multiple different account, everything, his Instagram, going to people that he
knows and saying fucked up stuff, whatever. And so he's like, I exist to a point where it's like,
okay, I'm being threatened, like some weird stuff going on. And he knows stuff about me. A lot of
stuff. Like, it's very, very strange, the things that this guy is saying, or this person saying,
and he knows people that I know. And so he's like, it's, so he puts in like a police report.
And I think at some point, they, they go somewhere where they can track it, right? They're going to
track the I because it got to a point where it was threatening and they so okay now they're getting
threatening we're going to we can track the IP whatever at this point he goes from florida and he moves
up to Oklahoma and he's in Oklahoma when he gets the report that it says that the IP address is
your IP address and your Oklahoma residents coming from like your rowing from the call is coming
from inside the house oh no he's like yeah and I'm like holy shit
He's like, so I'm like, that's crazy.
He's not grand.
The house has been empty for like six months.
It's happened a few months ago.
It's been empty.
He's like, but I'm like, look, that's crazy.
I'm walking around the house.
I'm nervous.
Right.
And then one day, he said, one day I'm writing and I'm in the phone.
You know, I'm being quiet.
Usually I'm noisy, music, whatever.
People, you can tell them in the house.
He said, one day I go upstairs and I'm sitting there and I'm typing and I'm working.
And all of said, I hear something.
And he's in the attic area.
He's got like a loft area.
And there's a little tiny door
to the attic,
which is not that big, he said.
But you can kind of get around in the attic.
There's a couple different pitch, whatever.
He said, I never go in there.
I got a few boxes or whatever.
And he said, and I hear something.
I think, is there an animal or something?
I kind of, oh, okay.
And he hears, and he looks and the fucking door opens.
And he said, this Mexican guy,
fucking jumps out.
Did he attack him?
Or don't?
Or did he,
the guy run?
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm somehow,
oh, no,
they do.
They do,
they do have a fight,
like a fight,
like they run,
like they attacks him.
They tussle.
And then the guy,
I guess when he realizes
it's not going to go his way
or whatever,
he runs and he runs.
And he chases him next.
Chase him all the way down the street.
I don't think it was Oklahoma
because it was,
I don't know,
it was a very,
it's a very liberal,
state that he was in
because he eventually catches up to him.
He calls the police.
The police come.
They stop the guy.
And the guy, he's like, I mean, what am I going to do?
The cop's like, well, what does he do?
He lives in your house.
He doesn't live in my house.
He's like, okay, so he's a, what do they call it when they move?
Squatter.
So he's a squatter.
Yeah, but I mean, he didn't do it.
He didn't break in.
Right.
Like he's like, what are you talking about?
I live in the fucking house.
You know, and then he starts to explain, you know, this has got to be the stalker.
Well, you don't really know that.
Right.
Good Lord.
They end up letting the guy go.
He's like, and then the guy leaves and he never comes back and I never see it.
I think eventually he does get arrested.
I think he's in jail now or something.
I think that might be it.
Listen.
Oops, sir.
Wow.
That's what you did when he told me the story because I had heard it over the phone when he told
me the guy and he was living in that.
He'd been living for months and he had access to his paperwork.
Right.
He was the word.
The guy had taken paperwork and stuff and had like up in the attic, right in the attic.
He had written notes.
and written all kinds of subtracted movement and all kinds of...
Is he going to, like, kill this guy and take his identity or something?
I don't know.
Oh, that's right.
He was in love with him?
He was writing.
He's like writing like, like love notes or, or sonnets or something about him and something.
It's just a completely bizarre.
He's like, I've never seen him since.
I know he eventually got arrested.
I think he went to jail or, oh, and I think he was illegal, too.
He's like, so he should be deported.
Like, I forget what the whole deal was.
Exactly.
I hear so many stories.
But it was the same reaction when he said,
the IP address, it made me think the call is coming from it.
It's the babysitter.
Right.
I'm getting prank called.
Like, get at the call is coming from that.
And I mean, when he told me that on the phone, goosebumps.
Yeah, that's crazy.
It's crazy because Lauren has, she had a video pop off a little like a year ago.
She ran up to Destiny on the street and tried to harass him and film him and make it seem like he came up to her.
Yeah.
But he filmed the whole thing and posted it and it made her look really bad.
She ran up to him and tried to make it look like he was coming up and assaulting her,
but she ran up to him and was basically like, why are you following me to my town?
He's like, this is 6th Street, Austin.
Yeah.
This is like the most famous street in all of Austin.
I came here to go to a club and watch some comedy.
Like, what are you talking about?
Like, yeah.
I know a lot of people will go, oh, cyberbullying.
I even think this way.
I'm like, just turn off the phone.
You know, it'll all pass.
Which we did. Yeah, it'll all pass, you know.
But that's not going after you.
It's going after these people that are around you.
Yes.
You're going after, so I was going to ask you was that I was thinking, I was wondering, are you, because it seems like you have a case to sue.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, totally.
Defamation.
We've lost a lot of money for sure.
Yeah.
A lawsuit.
And she's an attorney.
She has, she probably has the means to cut you a check for whatever.
She's got a lot of money and I would guess that she would fight it.
We are not that prosperous yet, but maybe after the criminal case is underway, then we'll see.
Well, I was going to say, yeah, if something happens with a criminal case, first of all, you're going to have to, you have to admit it.
So that's it.
You're done.
Like, you really, now what do you do?
And then it's just a matter of, and you'd be shocked how much you can do by yourself fighting your own case.
Oh, yes.
And you get to a point where you're like, look, we're close to trial.
Then you can go out and get a fucking attorney.
Yeah, that's what I did for the restraining order, right?
Right.
And so my understanding is, you know, now we have the restraining order.
I feel safe, feel protected.
to actually move about my day in my life and resume with content again.
We're working on the criminal case.
We have a great detective who, you know, gives us updates.
But obviously it takes some time to build a case like this.
Once that has gone through and she's being convicted, we're definitely going to be suing for damages.
The burden of proof is much lower, obviously, suing for defamation than a criminal charge.
She's got to, if she already has a conviction, if she's already, even it doesn't matter, she takes probation and gets three years.
Yeah.
You're not.
You're admitting. You admitted it.
Exactly. Exactly. So that's kind of the route that we're going to go. We did the restraining
order, now criminal, and then we'll do the civil case as well. But, you know, the main thing,
this isn't to like, I don't want, like, revenge and retribution and her to suffer as much as I
suffered. Like, genuinely, I want her to get help. There was a point in my life where, like,
I dearly love this person and it's still kind of shocking that all of this has unfolded to me.
So I literally just like get help, probably stop representing people as a lawyer when you're out there committing crimes yourself as well and don't allow people to retain you for services that you are like you can't even stay within that legal ethics and that legal code.
So that's crazy.
We honestly, I don't want anybody to go through this.
It's been it's been terrible.
And it's happening every single day here in this country, this type of cyber stalking and sexual cyber harassment.
I didn't even know these terminology
until this took place.
Again, we've had comments like this for years.
It is normal to be trolled and all this stuff,
but it can get to a point where one person
can make you trend on X
and completely destroy your reputation,
your sponsors, your career,
and self-image,
trying to go after our marriage,
the baby being miscarried
conveniently around the same time
that she's stressing out
trying to get everything together
to make sure that she's safe.
Yeah, I mean, again,
I don't want to say that that was like,
direct correlation. It could have just been an unfortunate coincidence. But yeah, it's like everything
about life that we were like excited about and happy about and cared about was like blown up in that
moment, you know? Pretty much just had to lean on each other and our faith in God. And that was it.
Did you see, oh man, I have so bad with names. It was a documentary and the guy had, what do you call it
when you swat someone? Yeah, you like swat them. Yeah. Yeah. That's, yeah, when you like call the police and say
They have like a bomb or something like that.
There was a kid that was doing this like to make money.
And he would go through a VPN and a socket server, whatever they're doing,
whatever they call those things.
And so he would, you know, you pay him 50 bucks or 100 bucks, right?
He's been already been to prison for it, I think, once or twice.
And so there are these two kids who are arguing online about like, I think a video game.
Yeah, it was a video game.
That's right.
it was a video game. One had done something and it upset the other one. And the guy's like,
fuck you. You know, I'll swat. I'll swat you. And he goes, bro, he said, I'll give you my.
He said, you want to swap. Swat me. I don't give a fuck. He goes, here's my fucking address. He gives
him his address. That guy calls the professional swatter.
Sends him. I don't know if he sent him money or not. Whatever. Let's say he said him a 50 bucks.
It was never much. And he then does a socket server the whole thing and contacts the local police and says that he's holding
someone hostage at this address.
And it sounds very credible and he's got a gun.
And, oh, absolutely.
It does a whole thing.
So the cops come immediately and surround the house.
Right.
And so they're banging on the door of the wrong house.
Right.
Now you think, okay, well, so they're in, they handcuff everybody.
They go to the house.
It's no big deal.
It's inconvenient.
But that's fine.
But that's not what happens.
What happens instead is the guy that lives in the house that is currently raising
two, I think his two nephews because their father died,
he goes up and he knocks on the door and he opens the door
because they're outside yelling for him to open the door
and he opens the door and sees that there's police all in the front yard.
And they say, you know, they're basically saying like,
and he sees it, you can see him like this and he,
and they're screaming.
to get on the ground, get on the ground.
But it's very quick.
We're talking about all of about four or five seconds.
Opens the door, goes like this and goes like this.
And the sharpshooter fucking shoots him right in the chest.
Kills him.
No.
Then they rush in the house.
They grab the two kids.
The kids have to step over his body while he's gurgling.
Good Lord.
And they bring him out.
And it was wrong.
Like I said, gave him the wrong address.
And it was just some guy who opened the door.
and, and I get the shot.
That's horrendous.
But people think that these guys, oh, it's online.
It's okay, well.
No, there's real life.
Yeah.
Even if it's not, even if you know what, even if you say, hey, that's an outlier,
that almost never.
Okay, I get it.
No, sweating does happen.
It's becoming more and more frequent, actually.
It's 9 o'clock at night.
I'm trying to go to work the next fucking day.
I'm raising two kids.
Even if they just dragged everybody out and put them in handcuffs.
Right.
It's still terrible.
It's still like, what the fuck are you?
do them and I'm just living my fucking life. These are two little kids that's like nine and
11 like what are you fucking doing? They're in middle school. Yeah. What are you doing? Like this isn't,
I'm sorry your life sucks, but you know, fuck, you know, watch the Game of Thrones fucking
series, bro. There's tons of good shit on it on Netflix. I mean, you don't have to be a fucking
asshole. Have you considered just streaming a movie? Yeah. Yeah. Pop some popcorn.
Stop, you know. Better alternative. Yeah. For sure. Yeah, there's people have mental, people have mental
problem, real mental problems.
Yeah.
You never even finished.
Tell a Stone story.
What?
What do you mean?
Huh?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That was a different person.
This guy, listen, I have characters on this show.
Even the guys that don't have real huge crime stories.
Some of these guys are such character.
We had the comedian on.
He was a character.
The guy before him was a character.
The guy that was the comedian.
Well, he wasn't even a professional comedian, but he was just
funny he was hilarious yeah but yeah ellis cook he admittedly he's he's hanging out with the wrong
people um he's a character uh but he's hanging out with strippers and this one stripper girlfriend of his
uh gets upset with him one night and takes his phone and starts going goes on his his his um
instagram and puts up a post a picture of like him or something i wake about three or four o'clock
in the morning, by the way. And I play on my phone.
Wow.
My wife's sleeping.
So I can't get out of bed.
And I can't let her know I'm on my phone because if I do, I get the three o'clock in the mom.
I'm sorry. I'm like a little clock again.
I'm just saying, why aren't you sleeping?
I'm sorry, five hours. I'm old. I don't sleep long.
And so I'm on the phone. And all of a sudden I see his, because I follow him.
And it comes up and it says, you know, this is horrible, bro.
It's like, it's like, you know, heaven has another angel.
And I was like, another angel, C.M.V. Ellis.
He's not going. I don't see this.
It's not probably in his, you know, he's not an angel at the lead.
He's going to have it.
It's going to be an argument with he and St. Peter's.
I didn't mean that and put the file down.
So I was like, is this Ellis?
And I'm like, holy shit.
So I text back.
I'm like, bro, is this for real?
Like, is this?
Or I text them separately because people shit get stolen, right?
Like, the people get that people get that.
So I text him, not on Instagram.
So I text him, hey, man, I just saw this thing.
I think, you okay?
Because it's got a whole thing.
And it comes back and it says, boom, hey, Matt, I'm, you know, this is Ellis's
girlfriend.
And unfortunately, he started drinking.
and he ended up taking his car and we got into an argument.
He took his car and about 10 minutes later or 20 minutes later, I got a phone call.
He ended up wrapping his car around a tree and he's deceased.
And I was like, holy shit, I said, I'm so sorry.
And she said, well, I don't know if you know this or not, but your podcast caused him a lot of problems.
Oh, like really?
Because I said that, she said, there are quite a few people reached out to him.
and there was a lot of problems that were involved after that.
There was a lot of unwanted attention.
And I said, that's weird because I said, he was telling me he had gotten like a grant and a book deal and all kinds of things.
He never said anything.
She's like, well, you know, he's a nice guy and he's polite and he didn't want to say anything.
But it did cause him a lot of work trying to make me feel guilty.
I was like, what the heck?
I'm so sorry about that.
And that's, you know, horrible.
And, you know, okay.
And she said, well, I'm reaching out to all of his friends and we're all very upset here.
And, okay.
I said, no, I go back to sleep.
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And then like two days later, I get a tax from, you know,
know that same from his old his old number and it texts me and it says um yo bro that's just
crazy stripper bitch fucking got my phone and she's been telling everybody i'm dead and
are you serious oh my they're just saying i'm like good lord bro you're like i'd be moodyed you the last
two days she's trying to kill i come in here and sit down with colby and blow you remember ellis
and she's he he's like yeah why i go oh he's died he's like oh you fuck it's a boy he's been texting me i go no
he texts me like every every month or so.
What's up?
How are you doing?
Tells me what's going on.
He's like, oh, man, we're both kind of like all that stuff.
We didn't hug or anything.
We don't know him that well.
But, you know, we're like, oh, this fucked up.
Yeah, that's fucked up.
We were over it pretty quick.
But then the next day I come back in and I'm like, hey, man.
I'm like, you know, Ellis?
He's like, yeah.
Yeah.
I'm like, no, no, no.
He's a lot.
He's not dead.
Like, we're watching the drama.
If that should teach you anything, never date a stripper again.
Yes.
Yeah.
All right.
No.
people are nuts
and what I'd recommend
so our case
it interests a lot of people
that we talk to about it
the lawyers the cops
they seem to take a personal interest in it
it just seems
crazy it's crazy
and it's like it's insane
and it did have a big repercussions
in our financial life
and all this stuff
but I would recommend
if this is happening
to anybody out there
do what we did
just log off
block them on everything
if they're anything like this girl
they'll continue making accounts and they'll continue trying to perpetrate.
But just screenshot everything.
Start screenshot.
I was going to say, you need a document.
I mean, I had to get off for my mental health, but he did that.
Like once or twice a day, at least he would log on, check all of the different accounts, screenshot everything.
We kept everything in chronological order.
I made it super easy for the evidence.
And so that's what I would strongly recommend to people.
People probably don't think there's recourse for a lot of this stuff, right?
But I think the main thing that we want to get across, there's such a huge difference.
between the First Amendment, exercising your free speech and actual harassment and stalking
and disseminating AI at the end of the days.
And you can do something about it.
And I encourage people to do so, you know?
And if you don't move like us and you decide to be reactionary online and you decide to blow
it up and try to make a career from the controversy and things get crazy, just be warned.
People are crazy online.
And we were legitimately, you know, in the right standing to be scared for our lives.
Things happen with the guy that's up in the attic and certain things that you don't know what people are capable of.
Yeah.
Online's a scary, dangerous place, man.
It's breeding a lot of new crimes right now, especially with the AI stuff, the spam calling, the, you know, replicating your grandson's voice and saying, I'm in the hospital.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm sending me money.
I'm in Mexico.
I lost my wallet.
All these scams.
It's getting crazy.
And people will wield it for reasons.
She had no financial purpose for this.
No, she didn't get clout from this.
Like, she didn't get famous from this.
Like, we don't quite know why this is even a thing.
I almost get wanting to get famous off of it and the clicks and everything that comes with it.
But yeah, I mean, it's just so, so peculiar.
It's becoming more common.
And we just want to, I guess, raise awareness for these online cybercrimes.
So if people want to follow you and find you or reach out to you or, you know, check out to the YouTube channel.
Where do they follow you?
Amy Dangerfield, that's my maiden name at least, Amy Dangerfield.
It's now Amy to Brinkap, but you can still find me as Amy Dangerfield on every platform.
You got to know to stick with Dangerfield, bro.
Come on.
Oh, 100%.
I told her, I'm like, you're not changing your online name.
No, it's a great name.
I just go with Dangerfield.
I just drop all everything.
Everything else is Dangerfield, yeah.
The issue is every single time I talk to someone, it's impossible to go through a conversation
without being asked if I'm the granddaughter of Rodney.
Rodney.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which would be cool, but no.
He's so good.
No respect.
No respect at all.
But yeah, Amy Dangerfield on every platform.
He does not have socials.
I'm off the grid as much as I can be.
He's got a couple of boner accounts, but that's about it.
But yeah, hopefully more videos coming out soon.
And yeah, if you guys want to support, definitely subscribe.
But thank you so much for having us on.
I very much appreciate having a platform to share this story.
It was well overdue.
And I'm sure a lot of my followers and people are wondering what the heck happened.
because we kind of just fell off the face of the earth.
But sometimes you've got to do that.
And then come back stronger.
So hopefully that's what we can do here.
Next step, make a sick documentary where we lay it all out
and hopefully can rejuvenate her name.
We also recognize that this is going to follow us for the rest of our online career.
And if we have kids and stuff, it's sad, but, you know.
It is what it is.
It is what it is.
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