Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - How I Became the World’s Best Bounty Hunter | Dog the Bounty Hunter

Episode Date: August 30, 2026

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I want to be the best. I'm the only civilian that's ever arrested a number one most wanted on the FBI and Marshall's list. So a lot of people ask me, what do I want to accomplish in the last season of my life? Well, when I left prison, you get $200. So there's a little trailer right next to Huntsville, the prison, and the trailer, the pastor, cashed the check for 20%. So I didn't do that. That's very Christian of him.

Yeah, I know. So I went to a store and I bought a like a suit thing and they cashed it right there. And then I went to the bus stop and bought a 32 pistol. And I did something else with a girl in the bathroom. And that was free. And so I got on it. I was starting to get on a plane. Of course, I didn't have any ID.

I just got out of prison, right? and I had never, I've been through the wanding thing, but I'd never been through those things that beep, right? And I could see him beep, and I'm like, oh, my God, I have a pistol on me. And so I tried it. I went through beep, beep, right, but I didn't take off my belt. And the guy said, what do you have on you? Do you have ID? And I said, yeah.

And he said, what's your ID? How come you don't have ID? So I pulled out my paper. and I said, because I just got out of prison for murder. And he's like, oh, really? Okay, thank you. So the belt was cool and the pistol was cool. So I got on a plane.

Okay. So I went way to the back and right next to me, well, I went to the back and there was this big, big, young red-headed guy. I was, we were about the same age. I was 24. And so I told the stewardess, you know, I need a drink. And of course, nobody knew I just got out of prison, right? So she brought me this little bitty thing. And I said, what's wrong with you, woman?

You think I'm some kind of idiot? I need a drink. And she's like, well, sir, there's a shot in each one. I go, sure, I need three of them. So she brought me three eyes, you know, straight. And so I drank that. And then probably 10 minutes later I started feeling it, right? So I was like growling or something, right?

So the red-headed guy said, what are you going to do? And I said, nothing. So I told her, I need a couple more. So drinking, you know, you can drink as much you want to on a plane. Who cares, right? They don't cut you off like a bar should. And so then this red-headed guy, said, what are you doing? I said, you ever heard this song, Hey, Joe? And he goes, yeah. I said,

well, I'm not going to shoot, you know, my ex-wife, but I'm going to shoot her husband. So he was my best friend. And she, you know, I thought she loved me a lot. And six days after I was the, I was the, But back then, the first guy that ever got divorced, I was still in diagnostics six days. And they called me out, Lieutenant wants to see you. And so I went there and he goes, you've been served. And I looked at it, said, divorced, da-da-da-da-da, right? And I was like, what the hell? And so there's a green line that you walk, right?

So this one boss told me, get on the side of the green line. And I said, they can stick that green line up there. You know what? And then, you know, he didn't get mad at it. at me because he knew that I had just filed for divorce. So anyway, this red-headed guy, you know, started telling me, what are you going to do? I said, I'm going to kill him. And he said, that's murder.

I go, well, between me and you, I just got out for murder. And I did 20 months total. And I said, so I don't know how much it would be for that, but, you know, it's Colorado. Texas is worse. So he kept talking to me, talking to me. and said, do you know, do you know Jesus? I said, of course. My mom was, you know, raised me, Holy Ghost Christian. And he said, well, you don't need to do that. He said, someday you're going to be something. And I'm like, yeah, you know, and because I, you know, was a devil disciple. And then there's

the dirt there's 12 it's it was called in the hell's angels dirty dozen and the only people allowed in it was uh someone who'd been convicted of murder okay and that's what that dot is right there is a uh you've been convicted of murder instead of tear drops and all that so he kind of talked me down right and so we landed i was really drunk because i don't know why but up high you don't feel it but man i was house. And so I got off the plane and there was my mom and dad, right? My mom hugged me. He was crying. I was crying too. And my dad hugged me and when he's a big guy. And when he hugged me, he felt the pistol. So he goes, son. And I go, yeah, he goes. So he pulls it out and takes it. And my mom said, what were you going to? I said, well, mom, I was going to. But this redheaded guy, you know,

talk me out of it now when i got off the plane i didn't realize you have to wait because i was in the very back so i just once it landed you know before i knew it landed i didn't understand about the seatbelt so i popped it started walking up and the same stewardess said listen are you okay and i go yeah so i was like the third one out you know i didn't understand first class and all that stuff right right so uh we waited i go mom i want you to meet this redhead guy he's really cool he's a Christian, right? And so I got off the plane waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, and then I was like, where the heck is a red-headed guy? And I don't usually get a right, back then red-headed guys of me didn't get along. I don't know why, but you know. But so waited, waited, and then the

stewardess that was serving me came out. And I told this, my mom was just, I go, where's that red-headed guy that was sitting by me? And she goes, you were sitting alone. And I was like, what? And, you know, I've two to three times known and seen angels because the Bible says, beware, you know, there's angels around you. Sometimes they show it, but sometimes they don't. And so I went, I, Texas wouldn't accept me on parole. I had to do, I paroled out to Colorado.

So a couple days later, the news. newspaper came out and it said there's two murderers now in Colorado. One of them, I forget his name, but he killed Coor's kid. He kidnapped him and killed him and said his name, I forget. And then the other one was me. And so as soon as that newspaper came out, they fired my mom, you know, and everybody knew I was in prison, her boss and all that. As soon as I got out, they fired her. And, you know, my dad was it was completely ashamed to me, right? So,

one day, you know, I drank a little more, and then I found another gun that I got from another friend and I was getting ready to walk out and go get him, right? Because I found out they lived in Colorado Springs.

And I said, Mom, I'll be back. And she goes, son, you're going to rob God. I may cry, her day. She said, you're going to rob God. And I said,

mom, I ain't stupid. I wouldn't rob God. She went, son. She called me Dwayne Lee. The Bible says, vengeance is mine, God said, and I will repay. And you're going after vengeance right now. You're going to rob God, son. And I'm like, here, Mom, here's the gun. So I was in her basement.

And then I told I go, Mom, you know, I want to go back. Who's going to cut the warden's hair? You know, all my brothers that are there. Who's going to talk to him a little bit about Jesus? You know, you can't be a Jesus freak in the penitentiary. But, you know, I did talk about led the prayer on Father's, on Mother's Day and all that. And so then she goes, listen, you know, you tell me in your letters that you want to be a bounty on her. I go, you're right.

So I went in the post office and I asked for the postmaster. general so he came out and i said you have wanted posters of people here and he goes sure i go can i have the two copies of the number one most wanted guy and he goes yeah here so he came to me so i looked at the poster didn't know the guy or nothing but i looked up his last name in the phone book right and i called a bunch like a hundred asking for him and finally i got a hold of his mom and asking for him. And she said, what are you needing for? I go, ma'am, I had on time with him a long time ago. Oh, yeah. In Colorado, I said, yeah. And I'm on the run. She goes, oh, he's on the run, too. And I said, do you know where he's at right now? Because there were no cell phones. And he goes,

yeah, she goes, yeah, but I'm not to trust you. I go, she's Latina. I go, ma'am, my name is payroll. And she goes, oh, I go, Comasiamma. She goes, lose. see, you know, because I speak Piquito Spanish. And so she gave me his address. So I bought this little pistol, it looked like a starter pistol, out of a comic book. And inside was a cap that shot tear gas. And I used it for a long time. So I pulled up, you know, I had a pickup and I said, orderly, want to come here, right?

And he came here, right? And so I, you know, put the gun to his heads, I'll blow your effing hat off, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I thought, oh, hell, I don't have a badger hanging handcuffs, right? And so I tied him off with my belt. So I called my mom and said, listen, I just got this guy, the FBI's most wanted in Colorado. She's like, no, I go, yeah, meet me on, you know, 15th and stout. So we went up to the floor of the feds was on. And so I, well, there was a, I had a diaper pin, you know, the big ones.

So I pinned the warrant of his picture and all that right to his chest, right? And so I took him up with the belt tied around him. And my mom was there. And so I walked in and this lady was there. And she goes, can I help you? I go, yeah, my name's dog Chapman and I'm a bounty hunter. She goes, what? And I go, you heard a bounty hunting, right?

She goes, yeah, back in, you know, Billy the kid days. And I go, well, I'm a modern bounty hunter. And this warrant right here says wanted by the FBI $10,000. And she goes, well, how do you know it's him? I said, ma'am, you see him? You see his picture? I told him, what's your name? And he told her, hold on.

So she went in the back and out come these two G men, you know, back then all dressed in black, you know, you could tell for sure they were feds. And I explained it to them. And so it was like 4.30, right? They close at five. And they're not open on the weekends. It was a Friday. And so they go, okay, I guess you can do that. I go, absolutely.

You got the poster and it said wanted, you know, do not try to apprehend, blah, blah, blah, right? And I didn't explain to him. I stuck a gun in his mouth. And so I started complaining about it. I said, I need my money right now. I hate losing my wallet. You check your pockets, the car, the counter, and for about five minutes, you're on full panic mode, wondering where it went. That's one of the reasons I like the Ridge wallet.

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come back Monday. So Monday, sometime early morning, we went back, right? So the lady, what's your name? She wrote out my whole Dwayne Lee Chapman. And there was a carbon when she made the check, and she goes here, but you better turn it into the IRS. And I go, sure. So we cashed it, and I got 10 grand. So right then my career as a bounty hunter, you know, took off. So then what year was this? Let's see, 79. 10,079. That's got to be like 50, 60 grand now. So I bought a new truck. I bought something, not a new, but a good, nice one, big red was. And I got something else too.

And so I, then I went after another one, right? And so I met the girl. She said, I know where he's at, but she goes, I'm wanted to. And I go, who, by the fed? She goes, yeah, but I'll turn in. I know where pounds of cocaine are, and I'll turn them in. I go, you will? So, you know, I called the feds again, and I said, this is dog a bounty hunter.

I got this girl, blah, blah, blah. So all these feds come over, and, of course, I left, and she ratted it and blah, blah, blah. So I get a call from one guy, and he goes, this is Keith R. Paul with the FBI. And I go, okay, I want you to meet me at the white spot. And I went, all right. So I went there, shook his hand, he sat down, he goes, why are you bounty hunter? So I told him the story, how I became one. And he said, listen, we go in in the morning and use a thing.

We clock in. We put the guy's name down. We're looking for her. And then at six, seven o'clock we're done, we clock out. He said, you're making us look like idiots. And I go, man, 10 grand? I'm sorry, gee, man. you know he goes have you ever heard of a bail bondsman i said of course i have what about a bounty hunter

and i go i don't know if they got him he goes well some do but you know they're not that good so he took or he said this guy named george lucero has a bunch of jumps and i said okay would you call him and tell him i'm coming he goes sure so i went in and george was a cool guy right so he gave me all these files. So a rival club, it was a girl that was wanted. So right away, I looked at all the pictures. I didn't know anybody. But I saw that she was the club. I forget the name of it, but she was wanted, right? So, and I seen, you know, I knew in that area, bikers hang out in a certain bar and all that. So I hit two or three bars, wasn't there. And then I showed a guy that, her picture. And he goes, yeah, what do you want her for?

I go, I know her husband. You know, I was a biker too. Oh. So. Yeah, the FBI's can't pull that off. No. So they came in, you know, her and her husband. And so he went to the bathroom.

I went to the bathroom, right? And he said, how are you doing? I go, good. Do I know you? I go, nope. And so they went out again. Of course, I got my little pistol right. So he was sitting here.

She was sitting here in bar stools, and I kind of got in the middle of it, right? And I put the gun at her, and I go, listen, you know, I'm a G man, and I'm going to blow your old lady's guts out because I'm taking her to frickin jail. By then I had handcuffs, right? And he goes, why? I go, I'm dog disciple. He goes, oh, man, man, I wish I could think of the name of the club. But he goes, oh, man, so I cuffed her, right? and took her out and he's like uh why you know what'd you do this for me and your dog and i said right

but you know i went to prison we all heard that you was gone forever for murder in texas i go no i'm back and now i'm a bounty hunter so i took her into george he was uh flabbergasted so he had a lot of jumps so i was catching one and two a day right for the bail bondsman and then what do you get for that like If they jump on a $50,000 bond, what do you get? Back then, you get 10%, just like they did of the 10%. So they got to sell all the collateral that they got to be able to pay me, right? Well, back then, there were no real bounty hunters, and every bond was filing on people's houses or taking their vehicles or everything they could

because there wasn't really such a thing, right? I knew this one guy that had a patch on his eye in Texas, and he was alleged bounty hunter, but there wasn't any real bounty hunters. Right. Is there no any, there's no certification you could just show up and like, I'm here to get you? Back then, you didn't have to have nothing but a badge, a gun, and a pair of cuffs. What are the bail bondsmen? Are they just waiting for the cops to pick these people up? Yes.

They're not, because they're not, they're not thinking, and we should hunt them down. I can start making calls. Well, they also don't have the contacts. They don't look the part, right? Like, you know, you look the part. You look like you could walk into these areas. People are going to open up and talk to you because they feel that, you're the same, you know, I was in a, you look like you. If you said, if I said I was in a motorcycle gang, nobody's believing me, you know, but they'll believe you.

Right. And you can talk to talk. So speaking about a badge. So my first badge was the. this little shield kind of thing, right? And that didn't work. So there was a police supply store in Aurora, Colorado, right? Because I asked this cop, I go, where did you get your badge at?

And he goes, the police supply store in Aurora. So I go, oh, really? Man, that's cool. And he said, so I went in there and I had Tads, long hair. And he goes, how you doing? I said, pretty good, brother. And he's like, brother, he said, what's your name? I said, Chapman.

goes, well, Officer Chapman, what do you need? And I said, well, I lost my badge and I need a new one. And so he said, okay, he showed me all these different. And he goes, okay, I need to carve your badge number in it. And I was like, oh, shit. I just got out of the joint. Now I'm impersonating a cop, pro violation, right? So I took a deep breath and I said, 271097. And he goes, okay, so we went back and carved it in there. And I thought, who? Well, 271097 is and was.

Your reg number? My prison number, yeah. And so this isn't the real one, but I mean the original one, but this is the one I still carry. So 27-1097. of it. Nice. Yes. Because I always look at it. Remember, you know, it didn't say Doc Chapman. The first one said, just Chapman, right? It didn't have this right here. It had a police thing. And, uh, it's funny. You never, you never forget that number. No, you know yours too, right? Oh, yeah. Well, there's so many guys out of Texas that I said, you know, I can recognize an ex-con quick, right?

Me and Francie just the other day, I go, what's up, convict? And the guy goes, how do you, I do you know I'm a convict. And Francie goes, well, one con can recognize another con. A fisherman knows a fisherman. Yeah. And so he went in the little restaurant, so I went in and got him and then took him aside, prayed with him, right? Because I could tell he was still doing dope and drinking and all that.

So then I have my badge, you had everything. So I did so many arrests for George in Adams County that I'd walk in and there's a little thing that you put your gun in and then you lock it, right? And so every time I walk in, I just sign the receipt, Officer Chapman, right? Because that's what the badge said, right? It's got to be true. I got like 300 and something in just that county. So the receiving officer said, listen, Mr. Detective Chapman,

you're going to get the award this year of the most people, being brought in. I go, oh, really? I go, well, cool, right? So I bring in another guy, right? So once the guy leaves, he comes out of that little room, right? And he goes, listen, you're not a police officer. I go, I've never said I was. You're the one telling me I was. Yeah. Well, who are you? I go, I'm dog the bounty on her. Well, you got a badge and a gun. I go, that ain't a real gun. Yeah, you got, you know, you take it, unlock it, put your gun in, lock it right, then hold the key with you. And he said, that's not a real gun. I said, no, it's a starter pistol that I got in a comic book.

And he's like, what? And I said, yeah, relax, sir. And so he goes, well, we can't give you the award. And, you know, that's, that depressed me because I was. I was going to show my dad. I got an award, dad from, you know. And so it was right after that, it was some holiday or something, and there was a parade in Commerce City.

And I was right out in front. And the cops in Commerce City knew who I was, right? And this cop was on a big horse. And when he saw me, saluted me, right, like that, right? And so my dad left. And I said, mom, where did dad go? And he said, he's crying in there. And I said, why is he crying?

Because dad told me men don't cry. And so I went in the house real quick and I go, dad, you're always telling me that men don't cry. It ain't mom I got the crying from. It's you. No, it's not. He said, I go, what are you crying for? He goes, I don't know. Well, that was the first time ever that my dad was proud of me because he was a Navy guy, pure stone, cold navy.

You know, he had that dagger with the snake around it, blah, blah, blah, right? And I was saluted by a cop, right? And I was like, whoa. And I had no idea he was not my real dad, right? And so then I started in Colorado and then some of the arrests, right? So how I was, you know, of course, I was famous in my own mind, but I had to get famous. That was my goal. the greatest bounty hunter in the world.

And mentioned something, isn't it kind of amazing how you want your father to be proud of you? And it's the strangest thing. It didn't even matter if not, I mean, I don't know about your father, but it doesn't even matter if he was a jerk off. It doesn't even matter. It's just, it's so important for, you know, for a child, for their father to be proud of them. Yes. It's amazing. Yeah.

and most of my kids are proud of me, you know, and if they say they're not, they're lying. Because they're the children of Dog Chapman, right? Yeah. So I started catching all these guys. So when I was driving home one day from the dentist, I had these teeth knocked out in the ring, right? And I won, but they were out. So I went to the dentist. He made these Bucky Beaver teeth, right?

And so I'm driving down Sheridan right by my office. And this guy's in a big old older Cadillac, and wham, he runs into an edgewood, edgewater police officer. Now, all this can be proven by just, you know, Googling my name and Edgewater, blah, blah, blah. And so, I mean, he hit him on the door side, right, hard, right? I'm like, oh, my God, so I put my truck in park, right? And I ran over to there because I had an office right there, and he was almost knocked. out all bloody and everything. And on the other side, the window was open and these freaking hippies were reaching in there because they was trying to grab his gun. And he had it like I do on this side.

Most cops wear it on their left side. Well, if they're left handed. But so I took, I unsnapped his gun thing and put it in his lap. I said, sir, they're trying to get your gun. And he goes, dog, did you see that? And I go, yeah, he goes, dog. Get him. a cop just told me sick him or get him right so i'm like oh my god so i knew which way he went because i see him turned so i'm driving driving and there's his car so then i see uh i see him well i didn't know he was trying to do it but these asian a man and a woman he was trying to hijacked their car. And when he saw me, he started running. So I opened the door of my truck, right, and knocked him down. But I didn't realize that, you know, I didn't have it very stabilized.

And when it hit him and knocked him down, it almost broke my wrist and arm, right? So I jumped out and cuffed him, right? And so someone called Beth and she called Nine News or something. And so as I walked around the corner, there was this huge, it's called Nine in the Sky, this big bright light, right, that was shining on me and him. And I was like, whoa, I like this. And then the television said, a bounty hunter, because I wouldn't use my name. Right. A bounty hunter, you know, got this guy that almost killed a police officer.

She went to the hospital and everything, right? and blah, blah, blah. So then there was a guy called the Capitol Hill Reface, Quentin Wortham. And he raped a bunch of women at Capitol Hill. He was from the Black tribe, right? So I had no idea that his auntie was a captain in the Denver Police Department. So I made a lot of calls, looked around. I knew he left state.

So finally, someone told me he was in Atlanta on the boardwalk working for this Chinese laundry, right? So I told my fed friend, and he goes, listen, you know, he's not, wow, you sure he's in Atlanta? I go, I'm positive. My snitch, I'm good snitches still do. C-eyes, you know, you can't call rats, but there's snitches. But, so, right, rat bones. So he said, listen, okay, well, I could get him for interstate flight to avoid prosecution if you're sure he did it. But the district attorney has to ask for it.

So I called the DA. They put a warrant on him, and they caught him right where I told him to be. So that's when, you know, cops hated me, okay, when they found out dog did it. So that's when a few cops started liking me, right? and my career went from there and there and there. And some of the big names I've arrested, of those two, of course, Andrew Luster, I'm the only civilian that's ever arrested

a number one most wanted on the FBI and number one most wanted on the Marshall's list, right? And I didn't get lucky, I worked hard. but that six months looking for him, and I was in Hawaii, really, you know, I prayed, I asked the Lord, listen, you're the one that told me that I was going to be a bounty owner, because what kind of job are you going to get for murder, right? Right. Not murder one, but murder.

And I told you I didn't do it, sit in the car, all that. And so you can't get a job. You can't, you know, when I would try to get a job, I, Are you convicted of felony? I put Will Discuss. And I really didn't work that long because he didn't have time to look at that or ask me. Because I'm only going to tell him, yeah, I've been in a prison. I was dating a gypsy girl once and very pretty long black hair, right?

And so I told her, you know, I didn't tell her. And then finally I told her I've been to prison. So she went, told her dad, right? So I pulled up my truck, hogged the horn, and he come out with a shotgun. And I'm like, what the hell is this guy? doing. And he said, listen, my daughter only can marry in, you know, a gypsy man. She's not marrying a white man. And you've been to jail for murder? And I go, yeah, but let me tell you, he said, listen, if you ever drive up here and try to pick my daughter up again,

you see this double-bill shotgun, I'm going to blow you in half. And I'm like, ooh. So other girls that I dated, I didn't tell them nothing, right? I'm just talking about you on it, right? I didn't tell many years I was so shamed. And today I'm not ashamed. And, uh, but prison made me who I am today, right? And so I never, I told anybody else nothing because it was a baddie and it still is. You know, a lot of people, yeah, he's a con. He's an ex-con. And, you know, so what? I got caught. So many people, you know this, that aren't in prison should be because they just didn't get caught.

So the Bible says all, every man and woman has sinned and comes short of the glory of God. It's what you do after the sin that counts. So how long did you stay in Colorado before you went to Hawaii? many years how'd that happen many years so uh did i tell you the story about jones my friend i don't think so no so uh one of the bondsman had a warrant on some guy named jones and i knew him when i was a disciple he was a hang around you know he hung around with this and didn't have a harley but i liked him right so uh there was a warrant coming out and so i knew where I lived, right? So as I pull up, I see all these fed cars. You know, they were all the same.

Lee Ayacocca gave them all the same kind of Chevys. Remember that? Right. And I'm like, what's the G-man doing here? Right. So I pull all my truck up. I start walking up. They go, hey, you, hey, you, hey, you. Get out of this guy shooting at us. And I go, what? And they said, get out. I go, I know this guy. And they go, we order you. I said, go to hell. So I kept walking up, And I said, Jones, I'll shoot your ass. I go, brother, it's dog. Oh, man, these feds you out, they're going to kill me. I said, ain't going to kill you, brother.

You know, because I heard boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, right? I know that he didn't have no more bullets. Where the hell he got the gun, who knew? So I opened the door, he was behind the couch. And he kind of looked up. I go, brother, come here. You ain't got no more bullets, do you? He goes, no.

I go, what you want? Aside by cop, no, no. You know, my mom would be so ashamed to me. I go, listen, I got to take he in. What? You're as a bounty hunter. No, I go, I am. So I'm going to cuff you to me.

So he got up. I put the one cuff on him and the cuff on my left because I'm a right-handed, just a case I had to beat him up. And we walked outside, right? And so these feds are like, Whoa my God, right? So then I said, listen, you guys, you know, he don't do that much drugs right now. He's probably cleaned.

But I said, he's a good guy, you know, and they said, okay, so the Fed took the key, got it off of me, and put it behind Ricky's back, right? And they took him away. So all of a sudden I get this call from this guy, and he goes, hi, have you ever heard of Tony Robbins? And I go, what? And he said, yeah, he's like this big guru. And I go, yeah, uh-uh. I thought it was a guru who was like a fortune teller.

And mom said, don't you ever go into a fortune teller and have your fortune tilled? Because that's demons. That ain't Jesus or the Holy Ghost, right? And so I said, huh, that guru shit, I don't want a part of that. And so they said, no, he's a motivational speaker. Well, I knew who Zig Zig Zigler was. right because I read a couple books in prison about it. I love Ziglar.

He's great. I think I met him one time years ago. So I thought okay. My dad gave me all the tapes. Oh, did he? You sell the tapes, the big plastic thing and you'd have all the tapes. In prison, you listened to him? No, this was before I was when I was a teenager.

Yes. So he told me that. So then somebody, it might have been Tony, got a hold of my mom, right? Because just like now, I gave him in my mom's number, like I give him Francie's number, right? Or Monica. Because my mouth, I just don't do it right, right? So I give him that number and I forgot where I was. You were going to, you called Tony Robbins. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry, Francie.

So I think Tony Robbins called my mom and said, would he come make an appearance? And my mom said, how much? And he said, we'll fly him to Austin. And we'll first class and we'll give him $5,000. And so my mom came and said, they want to fly you to Austin, Texas, and give you five grand. First class, son. Well, I'm not, again, I first class. You know, you could smoke and everything on a plane back then, right?

So I said, okay, because I said, no, mom said, $5,000, son, you're going to do it. You haven't made that much since, you know, that first guy with 10. I said, okay, so I flew there. And just before Tony was there, I walked across the street just to buy cigarettes. And this Asian lady, Highway Patrol lady, said, hey, come here. And I'm like, yeah, do you have ID? And I'm like, oh, my God. you know, I never, ever wanted to step foot in Texas again.

I kept, that's the thing I kept telling my mom, oh, no, I am not going back to Texas. I was off parole and everything. She goes, why? I said, mom, look what happened to me there. Don't be ridiculous, right? And so I gave her my ID and I thought, I got to talk fast before she runs my name, right? And so I said, ma'am, I'm from Colorado. I'm going to go speak at this guru guy, Tony Robbins.

Oh, you're the guest speaker. And I go, yeah. And she gave it back to me. She goes, well, please don't jaywalk in Texas. I was like, you know, I wasn't there. Not hardly any time. And I'm already, you know, breaking the law, right? I don't, I'm so, right then I was so afraid of the Texas law.

And highway patrolmen in every state, usually don't give you a break, right? They're the meanest of all the cops, right? And so then Tony came and he said, you want to ride in the helicopter? And this was his second deal. And I said, sure. And then he like surfed on the water, right?

And it was, I mean, it wasn't, it didn't scare me that much because I thought, well, I don't know if this guy believes in Jesus, but right now I do. So if I die, I die, right? So then we're up in the air and he's on the radio. and we see all these cars that are being parking and all that, right? And he goes, what's going on down there? And they go, Tony Robbins, they're here to see you.

And he's like, whoa, right? So we land. And then the next day, you know, it started early. And so I really didn't understand what was going on. You know, he wanted to do an interview, right? So we're behind this big curtain thing. first time I ever been behind a curtain. And I go, what are we doing here?

And he said, well, we're going to do an interview. There's two stools out there. And I'm going to talk to you. And I go, oh, no, or not. I go, when I start speaking or talking in front of people, I start crying. He goes, well, that's all right. And I go, no, it's not. And all of a sudden he goes, well, sorry.

And the thing raised up, right? And so he said this is Dwayne Chapman, also known as dog, and he's arrested 1,500 people. And I'm like, yeah, he goes, so have you ever robbed any banks? I didn't rob banks, but I robbed Savies and loans, right? And I said, listen, hold on. So what's the matter? So I went in the back, come here. So we went behind, I go, listen.

All those people out there feds. And you're asking me this kind of shit in front of feds. This is a trap. And he goes, no way. How long ago was it? And I go, a long time. He goes, well, statute of limitations is gone. I understood all the law.

I understood. But I go, okay. So then we speak for, like an hour he's questioned an answer. And then I kind of just took over, right? So at the end he goes, now dog, what is the main thing that you don't like when you grab someone? I go, you know, no officer or nobody ever, but my mom says, thank you for getting this guy off the street. Never? I go, no, they're like, which convict is it?

They both are convicts. And then there was a rumor going around that they were all my friends. and I was turning them in and splitting half the bounty. And I told him that. And, you know, so he said, okay, everyone here, before dog leaves, dog, you're going to get down on the stair and then, you know, they got in a line. He goes, I want you to give him a hug. And I cried and I hugged so many people.

I was soaking wet. My shirt, my hair was all in my face and everything. And so this little Asian lady came up. She's dressed really cool, right? And she hugged me. And I go, thank you, ma'am, because they, just say hi what's your name she ain't hug right tony don't mess around you can't talk tell no stories and she goes mr chapman i'm that highway patrol lady and i had no i mean i had no idea because she

wasn't dressed like that yeah she had her hair like up in a hat and all that and now her hair was down really long pretty girl that that told you about smoking i go oh really and she goes jwalking Jaywalking, yeah. And she goes, dog, I ran your name. And I heard your story because Tony Robbins said, you know, I told the whole story and I told you that I didn't do it. I was, I sat in the car. Right.

And of course, everybody believed that. But the law back then, if you didn't snitch on the person, if you didn't snitch on a crime, you saw them commit, you were just as guilty, right? Right. So I was totally amazed. So then a couple more times I spoke with Tony Robbins. So then he goes, listen, you've been speaking, that's fine. But I'm going to pay your way to Hawaii, first class and your room and all that.

And you're going to go through the 10-day seminar. I go, all right. So Tony's son, Josh, used to spend, we spent like two summers on vacation after this with me. right so me and josh became friends through the tony robbins two three years and so me and josh were looking out over the ocean i go i'm going to tell you right now homie i'm going to stay here he's like what i go yeah i'm going to be a bondsman and i'm going to be a bounty hunter here and he's like are you sure i go listen your dad says if you have the right attitude you can be any of you can be any you want to be, but be sure that you're the best in the world. Martin Sheen was at that thing.

And Martin Sheen, I told him a story one day, and he said, you need to do a movie. And whenever you do one, I want to be the voice of God. And I go, all right, I met Peter Goober. I met a lot of actors that were at Tony Robbins at 10-day seminar in Hawaii. So I called my mom. mom and I said will you watch the kids because you know I was a single dad and had four or five kids whatever I'm gonna stay here a while she's like what and so I stayed and stayed and Tony Robbins says the first thing you do when you open a business is get a business card and pass it around everybody you see well I sold Kirby's door to door not knock right so I started knocking the door I go hi then like hi I said here if

in case your family ever gets in trouble, here's the business cart. So you had to take a test and all that, but this judge, Leland Spencer, just signed a letter that I could write bail. So I had like hardly no money left, and I pulled underneath the bridge and slept my car. And this is when they had cell phones. And I call my mom and she goes, are you coming home? And I go, yeah, shoots, mom. you know, this be all you want to be confession.

You know, the Bible says the hardest member to control on your body is not what men think. It's your tongue. Well, Tony kind of says that if you say it into being, it becomes that, right? And all of a sudden I get a call and I say, bail bonds. And they, hi, someone gave us your card. And I go, okay. See, the first name of my company was A bail bond. It's just the letter A, right?

And so I said, how much is a bond? It's $500,000. And I go, and her name was Miranda. And I go, Miranda, who's it for her? And she said, my husband, he's in jail. For what? Distribution of cocaine. I said, okay, well, I need the cash first before I post this.

and so she gave me this address, right? So I had to stop and ask everybody in Hawaii how to get there. And they're, well, you go down by the coconut tree, you know, but, blah, then you turn right. And then you keep it going. You cannot miss the big white mailbox. And then you see the wide mailbox. And then you turn left, kind of crooked, kind of like that. And then you go there, ah, but then you take a U-turn because you can only go.

I'm like, oh, my God, I'm never going to find this, right? So then I asked another guy and he's like, go straight, a holly white guy. He goes, go straight down this thing and there are all those buildings are on the left. Well, it was an address. Well, it was the projects, right? And so I go up there and this Tongan guy, I didn't know Tongan, Samoan, Hawaiian, but now I do. This Tonga guy was peeling these huge shrimp, right? and I'm like, oh, I'm the bondsman, you know, Dwayne, right?

No, I'm the bondsman, Donald Chapman. Oh, you named Dold? I said, yeah, why? I said, it's God's feel backwards, a long story. Okay. You're going to buy my son-in-law out of jail? I said, yes, sir. But, you know, I need 50K.

You like cash. I'm like... A big fan. Yeah, I'm like, yeah. So then the guy's... guy's name was folia right and so philea call collect does dad answer the phone and he said i'm given this uh this guy you know 50 grand he's already got it and you know this guy he's got long hair and i can leave eyes on he's got flip flops and uh i don't know if this guy's a buzzer since

so i get fully on the phone mother effer i give my dad back the money right now i go easy home homeboy. I ain't your homeboy, you effing, Howley. I go, listen, Brian, I'm the coolest howley you ever met. I'm going to take the 50, nothing you could do about it, but I guarantee you I'm going to come post your bond and stand there until you get out, right? I didn't know that Fulia was a badass, right? Right. I didn't know that Miranda was a, what do you call it? it's a Caldumahu here, a transvestite. Well, and Tonga back then, if the chief doctor said you have a boy, okay, or a girl, well, then if it's a, they bind you, you know what, and make you drink something where you get breasts and all that, right?

And so I post a bond, he comes out, he said, oh, blah, and he gives me, what, really? really tight hug, right? He's about my size, right? And I give him a tight hug. And then way down the road, I found out that Miranda was a man. I mean, she was, you would have, she's a little heavy set, had a girl voice. I mean, it was incredible. I even did a show on A&E about this, okay, about the, why some of them are like that.

It's just like the Chinese buying the baby's feet so they don't get big because they're in the rice patties, right? And so later on, then Fulia becomes a girl. And so I meet with him and I'm like, well, first of all, we were driving in a cab. I'll be in a cab downtown. And I catch this car dealer, right? This is all by myself. And so I fly, be at Fulia.

Fulia, I show you where that punk is, right? Because he was, I think, Japanese. And so I catch him, Fulia is just watching, right? So I go to get in the cab because the guy waited for me and he goes, I ain't going to run with that. And Fulia said, I will knock that goes around to the side of the cab driver, opens a door, grabs him and says, I will blah, blah, blah, your ass. You're taking my friend and me. Where are you going to the jail? So the guy does it, right?

So then Fulia becomes a girl. So then I meet with him again. I go, Fulia, you got Chi-Chi's and, you know, you still look the same. But now you're that? What's wrong? I don't know. Miranda broke up with me. I said, really?

And I can't explain none of that, right? And I'm not talking bad about that. No, I understand. I just don't like the ones that, you know, wiggle their weenie and dance in front of children. Okay. Well, in Hawaii, they don't do that at all. They kill them.

So later on, Fulia gets busted again. I bond him out, two, three years of the federal joint in Hawaii. then he gets caught again and he hangs himself in the jail. And so that was the very beginning of my career as a bail bondsman. And then this guy named James Lindblatt, who today is my friend. So in Colorado, every back then the phone book was A, Ard Vark, A, A, A, Aable, A, your mama, a, blah, blah, A, Aaron, A, A, A, A, right? So I'm praying. And I said, Lord, I got to be number one here.

like Tony says. And I hear the Lord say, go to a Webster's Dictionary and look up the first word. And I'm like, what? You know, because it's got to be a sub-and. And it's just the word A, just the letter A. And if you look, I forget what it was. It's a description about something. So I turned in my application to, no, I go down to the phone company.

And I go, this is, you know, what my name of my company is. And she goes, no. And I registered it, right? and she goes, no, I go, here's my registration. And I tell her the same thing. So she goes back and gets Webster's, comes out, had a red thing, a red cover, looks it up, she goes, all right.

So in Colorado, it was A. I paid $10,000 a month. And it was a big, what do they call the clocks, the sundial. And it said Asian, Japanese, all these Latin, Mexican, all these languages, because the only one I knew was Mary Ellen, who speaks fluent Spanish. I don't know who I was going to find to do Japanese, Japanese.

But when someone called me, I did not lose the bond, right? Then bondsmen started giving me bonds that they wouldn't write because they knew the guy would jump. And I go, as long as they got the cash, yeah, I posted all of them, right? So I became the number one bail bondsman in Colorado. So then fast forward to Hawaii, Lindblatt sued me, this and that, I had to take the test. Well, it was 300 some questions on your knuckle, your finger,

all that stuff, right? So in Hawaii law, it said you will be given a test comparable to the business you're in. So back then, the division of insurance lady was Linda Takayama. So she says, come up here. I want to talk to you. So I go up there.

Here's Limbant, his lawyer, a couple other lawyers, and I'm by myself. And she said, now, Mr. Chapman, why do you want this test changed? And then I read the law to her. And Limblet's going, Limbott's lawyer is going, I object, you know, we all had to take this test. You know, I took it 12 times, but I finally passed it. And that's why the test is like that, Ms. Takayama, so we could keep the riffraff out. I felt like riffraff, you punk. And so she goes, I agree with Mr. Chapman.

So from 300-something questions, it went down to 32. And it was basic. What's extradition? Can you revoke a bond? You know, bail bond stuff. So they changed the task because Judge Leland Spencer gave me a letter, said you could write. Because I kept calling everybody to go, how do I become a bondsman? You go to the judge and ask him.

So I go to Judge Spencer, tell him my story about murder, blah, blah, blah. Tony Robbins, done it on. He's like, I went to a Tony Robbins thing. What do you need? So he gave me a letter, certified it. So at OCCC was a jail or the city jail. I just walk in and hand of that. So finally, I had to take a test.

I was out of business two weeks. Limbaugh try to keep me out of business forever. So I took the test and then I named it da kind because everybody was, you know, I had no idea. You go down here and go down here and bought it up to the kind street and it turned right. What the hell is the kind mean? What does it mean? It means like what you might call it. Okay.

Or the best. Or today, guys about it's really good pot. Oh, it's the kind pot, right? It's, but they don't go duckine. It's de kind. Right. You know, that's the best or anything or what you would call it. You know what a kind, bro, right?

And so I named it duck, D-A-K-I-N-E bail bonds. And he was A-1. So he sued me and they said A is too close to A1. And I was like, it's A1. And, you know, Dekind, but the Hawaiians that look at that, the kind bail bonds. I don't care where I was in the book. Hey, blah. This is Fred.

And I go, how are you? And then I started learning pigeon in the language. When I first met Francis, she could barely understand me. because I was pigeoned out and I, you know, still once in a while talk Hawaiian, you know what I mean? And so, you know, the kind of bail bond is going to help you. Yeah, you know, blah, blah, blah. Then they come down it and I was a howley, right? A white guy.

And I tell him, do not fail to appear, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then this one guy came in and he's like, I did the bond for 10 grand and he came into and he goes, here's another hundred. I go, for what? And he goes, well, you loan me $10,000. I go, sir, you pay 10%. That's it. If your kid fails to appear, he was a Samoan, right?

My kid never failed to appear. Now, what he did when he signed the indemnity agreement, he put X on it, right? And I didn't go, what the hell? What's your name? Can you write? Because I knew he couldn't or spell, right? You know, I sign for my son, he's not.

I go, listen, you don't have to pay. Oh, Bob. I've been paying all this time for all my kids. So come to find out James Lindblatt and Arthur Lee, this guy, that's what they were doing. So no wonder they wanted to keep out bondsmen because they was robbing the public, right? Cash collateral, they took it. Guy go in to get his cash collateral and goes, you've got to have a receipt. Oh, you know, give me your receipt.

Well, there's your signature because it was carbon, three carbons. There's your signature right there that you got a receipt. So they was robbing them for their cash collateral too. So then I said, I don't take cash, I don't take collateral. And I put it in the ad. No cash, no collateral, no credit check signature. So like one member, I take, you know, you got any family? Oh, you know, Benny, I want all 12 of them into cosine.

because I knew one of the 12 would tell me, right? So all of a sudden in Hawaii, no one called no other bonds were but me. I started making more money in Hawaii than I ever made in Colorado. And I was number one in Colorado, right? And it was because of Tony Robbins because he instilled my mother, Jesus, Holy Ghost. it instilled in me that if you do the right thing, you can be or do anything that you want to do. I mean, right now, you know,

I was convicted in the 70s. Who the hell would ever thought I would be Dog the Bounty Henner and have over 5 million followers and marry some girl like my francy? No one, a rancher? And she marry a long-haired guy, you know? God has been very, very good to me. And, you know, when I first met Francie, I'm a, you know, I'm an all-around good guy and a slayer

of dragons. And, you know, but I'm also a mean mother effer from the Bongo Congo. And always a good guy's got this other side. And once in a while, that has to come out. And it's usually during arrest. I have never, I think I slammed the door once hard when I walked out with Francie. I've never yelled at her or her at me. That's a lot different than other marriages I've had, right?

All of a sudden they were going to make some kind of movie or something about a bounty hunter, right? So they had this black guy and his wife, me, and some other guy. So this guy named Andrew Dunn came out, well, here's the first. Sorry. So Bill Blinn wrote some. Starsky and Hutch. Okay. So CBS gave him 50 grand to come out and write a story to be a movie about me. And he called it the Maverick Lawman, right? And so he already wrote it then came out, right? So he was in my truck and this old man had a warrant for him. And he goes, I'll meet you in the street and we'll have a draw.

I said, you got it, buddy. I'm quicker Billy the kid, right? And so he comes. out in the street, right? And on three, I had a non-lethal weapon different than this one, the old pepperball pistol. And so one, two, bam, I outtribed shot him in the chest, right? He went down like that. And now Bill Blends in, you know, behind the truck going, oh, my God, right? And the guy's like, oh, my God, you shot me? And he goes, go in my trailer right now and get my crucifakes. And I'm like, I'm not Catholic. I don't get it, right? I go, for what? I need hell, Mary. I'm like, what the hell? I go, listen, oh man, you can be all right. Yeah. He didn't realize it was a... Oh, no. This new one that I got right here, I'll show you

a minute. It's a lot more powerful than that, right? You know how when you see on TV a cop gets hit and then there's a big old bruise? That's exactly what these do. And so Bill Blan said, okay, so they turned the movie down, the script, all that. Did you read it? No, I can't read that good. And so he said, I would have wrote a complete different script. So I said, who is the head of CBS? Well, do you remember the Rambo? Yeah.

His guy, the lieutenant or what it was captain. Yes. It was his daughter. Nina Tassler was running CBS. Well, have you ever been to CBS? No. Okay, it's hard to get in, right? So I thought, you know.

You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to get a birthday cake, right? And I'm going to put happy birthday, Nina, N-I-N-A. Okay, so I pull up my truck and park and the day, I go to the gate, walking, and he's like, what do you need? I said, I have a delivery, a birthday cake for Nina Tassler. Okay, so he lets me right into CBS, right? and so I go in, ask where she's at, right? Go in there.

As Nina here, I have this advice. So she says, yeah, come in here, right? So I had her cake. I go, ma'am, you know who's Bill Blinn? And she goes, yeah. I go, listen, I'm dog the bounty hunter. Did you read the script? She goes, it sucked.

And I go, would you please give him another chance? I don't know. Let me think about it. How in the hell did you get in here? I go, that cake. she goes, it's not my birthday. I go, the guy at the gate didn't know that. Nobody else knows that.

I said, but you can keep it, right? And so I thought for sure, man, she loved me so much that she was going to do it, right? No movie. But I kept trying, right? Yeah. So then Andrew Dunn got a hold of me and said, can I come out and film? And they filmed the show. And so A&E, CBS, NBC, you know, this guy named,

my good friend still today, my first producer, David Houts, and Danny, his partner, took it everywhere. Well, CBS, or one of the big networks, offered 60-some thousand per show. No, 37,500 per show. And I already talked to the person that Nancy Dubuque said she could, you know, I could say in Jesus' name, right? but we'll try it, right? They offered 7,500 a show, and we're in this place in Hawaii. 7,500? 100 per show.

So we're in this place in Hawaii underneath this parking lot, and Beth said, oh, we're gonna, Big Daddy, we got a show 37. Hang on, Beth. She's thinking about letting me say in Jesus' name,

because David Houts is Jewish, and I said, I say prayers, way before the TV show started. Yeah. You know, with my kids. or the guy in the car. I just did that, right? Talk to him about, you know, Jesus, all that.

And I said, listen, you think that I'm going to get in front of God naked, Beth, by myself alone? And Jesus is going to go, oh, well, you wanted to go with CBS, huh? And CBS, you could say amen like that. But my mom taught me, if you don't say, in Jesus' name, amen, it just bounces up. off the ceiling, right? Even when I pray for, Francie and I for anything, the end, we say in Jesus' name. And it's not in the Bible that you can say amen, but we do, right? So we took that, right? And the first show, I did it, and she called me, oh, I went to the premiere, blah, blah, blah, it was, I thought it was over. Then I went, she called me in, she goes,

I'm going to let you do like I told you Jesus' name, but she goes, I'm Jewish and most of Aeneas. If it don't work, then, and I lied. I said, okay, I'll quit, right? So the first season came out, right? So she flies us to there. And so, first of all, they have these posters, right? And the one poster was covering this other poster,

and it said, con, C-O-N. And I thought, man, you know, when the first article came out with the Denver newspaper, the Rocky Mount Post or the news,

it said X-C-O-N, X-Con. Yeah. Then the next one came out with a con, right? My mom said, well, you're working your way up, son, right?

And so I told her, I go, listen, why is that word just freaking got to stick with me forever? she goes dog scoot the poster over and then in front of it it said i dash see a win i go what the hell is that mean she goes icon i go what the hell is that she goes someday you'll see and then the then we said in jesus name and we hit we even beat goddy you know victoria she's still my good friend and well she would be i just i don't have her sell anymore but uh

to Dubuque said, I don't care if you say in the name of Abraham, Buddha, Muhammad, or whatever. She goes, let me tell you something. This Jesus and you, Dog Chapman, got their own thing going. So I made that a saying, me and Jesus, we got our own thing going, me and Jesus, we got it all worked out. Me and Jesus, we got our own thing going. We don't need it. anybody to tell us what it's all about, right? Out of that thing. It might be a song, but I heard her say that. And so, you know, then we, the numbers just kept going, going, going.

Well, how long did this show run? What I remember about it is that your, I remember your son, was it one of your sons? Your one son was. In the beginning. In the beginning was, like, I remember watching those episodes where your son was with you and you had the, the, the pepper spray. And how did that, you know, how that whole thing, like, was that always a part of the kind of the dynamic?

Well, it started off being, you know, dog, the bounty hunter, just me, right? And then Beth would follow behind us, right, in another SUV. And so I needed the file because I had to have it. So I said, Beth, where the F is the file at? I got to have it. We're getting close to where I think he's at. So she pulls up and flips me the bird, and it's on TV like that, right? And so they're like, wow, is she like that?

And I go, oh, yeah, she's crazy. And so they said, do you want to take her on a bounty? I'm like, no. And they said, come on, dog. And I said, all right. So then I said, you know, my son Leland, I had him, you know, he's been bounty hunting since he's eight years old. I used to have him go to the door and say, have you seen this little kitty, right?

And then he'd look for the guy and then we'd jump on him, right? And so Lila was on crutches when he, the first time he came in, right? I don't know what he did, but. And then Dwayne Lee, my oldest son back then. I didn't know I had two others older because he's Dway Chapman the second. He came on, okay? And then baby Lisa, you know, I thought, you know what, she would really be good on television, right?

So then baby Lisa came on. And so, you know, it was all family. Yeah. Because, you know, I've been to prison and all that, right? And the Native Americans say, just because it's blood, if you find a really good friend that would be as loyal to you as a family member, well, I still haven't found a friend. Well, Daniel might be that guy, you know.

Because I love Daniel. I hope he loves me. But besides that, every friend I had screwed me around, right? So male friend, right? And I always got along with women way more than I did with men. And now, Francie, I can't get along with as many women as I used to. And I don't like her getting along with a lot of men either. So I have my Francie, and we see the kids once in a while.

and thank God they're all grown now. And it's just me, Francie, and Samson, my little dog. Is that, are your son still doing a bail bondsman in Hawaii? Dwayne Lee is writing bail in Florida. Oh, okay. Why not Florida? I mean, why not Hawaii? It went all, almost all PR-O-R.

Once we left. Oh, okay. Death used to be number one. Then we took out like two a week for dope. And now they're PR and everybody. So the bondsmen are almost broke in a lot of states right now that used to be, you know, bail bonds. So you moved to Florida. Florida there.

Well, we have a friend named Katie. So I talked Francie in to move it here because I knew, you know, 100% of humidity, blah, blah, blah, that it was going to be like Hawaii, right? Huh. Yeah, it's not. It is so hot. Here, I'll be so glad when the middle of September or October comes to cool it off at least to 80.

Yeah. You don't have nearly the breeze that you do. Oh, no, every day. Unless Miami. Miami, it's funny, Miami will be a little bit better. Because it's close to the ocean way down there. Yeah. Oh, it's hot.

I talked to baby Lisa yesterday and the hurricane during the hurricane and all that. She said after the hurricane was over, she went outside and within two minutes she started sweating. She goes, dad, it's like Florida. How do you do that? Because there was no trade winds because the hurricane stops them. Now, I've been there a couple days when it's like three days a year. They don't blow. It is hot.

The hottest place I've ever been in my life is Mexico. Oh, I lost like 25 pounds, couldn't eat nothing and hot. Oh, man, it was hot there. It is hot there. What were some of the more interesting bonds who went on in Hawaii? You mean, well, I worked for James Lindblatt now. We're friends. I caught a couple of his.

And most of the bonds in Hawaii were guys that failed to appear on me. Right. Right. I'm saying what were more than what were some of the, do you have any stories about some of the more interesting ones, like how you, how you tracked them down or? Well, you know, I remember Hawaii, everybody say, yeah, how could you not find people in Hawaii when it's just a rock, right? Well, most everybody in Hawaii is related. I remember telling, showing this guy $100 to give his brother up. And I go, look, I'll give you $100. He looked at it. He goes, oh, brother, I never seen $100. I go, okay. No, it's my brother. I go, I'll give you two of those.

Oh, right. You give me $1,000. It's my brother. So you have to be very listening and watching body language. You know, I took Tony Robbins, well, two days. I listened to him on the 10-day thing there. I kept walking in and out and listened to him about body language, right? So I'm very good.

at that. Plus, I have discernment. So with the body language and discernment, and I learned all that in Hawaii, right? Because, you know, there's so many things when you know they're lying, and a lot of bounty hunters don't believe that, right? Oh, you, somebody snitched. No, I just talked to the right person. So Hawaii taught me that. But we took down, you know, a big one, little ones come, No, little ones come in bunches and big ones come in pairs. We took a lot of little guys out and girls and a lot of big huge Samoyans, Tongans, all that. Do they, I mean, usually what, did you just kind of knock on the door and they, or do they all kind of try and take off? What's the kind of strategy to get someone?

Like, are you watching these houses for days? No, I am not a stakeout guy. Okay, I don't know how these guys could do it. My friend Josh and Kevin would just take this guy out in Florida. Uh-uh. We didn't do it. I used to go, every knock, right? And then all of a sudden I'd hear in Hawaii, they go,

oh, boy, that's the dog's knock. And they go, who is it? It's Avon. You know, I used to knock on the door. Avon calling, right? And then I go in and they're watching dog a bounty hunter. Oh, bra. Okay, come on, you're under arrest, right?

So, you know, Hawaii taught me a lot about bounty hunting. Different national, in Hawaii, way more than Vegas. There's different nationalities everywhere. It's a lot of Asians. I couldn't tell Japanese, Chinese, Korean. Now I can tell, right? Tongan, Samoan, Fijian, I couldn't tell that. Now I can tell, you know, which one is which. And usually the Samoans

don't jump bail. You do a Holly Bond, he's gone out of country. So I only did local boys and girls, but they don't care, you know, they're going to prison anyway. So in every state, if you jump bail, you get like a two to five year sentence. Well, guess what? They run it concurrent. So who cares about the bail jump, the bond jumper? Yeah. So what, right? Especially Hawaii.

You know, I'm going jail anyway, dog. You know, I just, I smoke and I this and, you know, I had to see my wife and, you know, I ain't going in there. And I give him a cigarette, you know, and pray with them and boom. So Hawaii taught me a lot about, you know, bounty hunting every nationality. well, a lot of these people, like their family members are putting up their house. Like, to me, it's like, oh, I'm going to, I'm going to go on the run. It's like, yeah, but your mother put up her house.

You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I always wondered that like, you're not going to allow your mother to lose her house because let's face it. Right. You signed for this bond and this guy took off and either I, either I have to get him in 90 days or whatever the time period is or I got to foreclose on. your mother's house. Like, you know, it's just a shitty situation to be in for you. Right. So you've got to try and grab this guy. And then what?

Then you got to go after the house. And then you would think that the parents, even then the parents would be like, hey, my son is staying here. Because you're not taking my house. You would be surprised of a lot of men, usually women know, don't care. This guy named Lawhead, Beth did a $350,000 bond. didn't know about right before she passed away. And I got a notice and I'm like, I went to Beth and goes, who's this guy? Lawhead. Oh, you know, blah, blah, blah. And his mother put up her house in Kauai. And he didn't care. And finally we got him in California or the feds got him.

I'm curious, how did the success of the TV show kind of change your life? You know I mean, or what's that transition like going from a bounty hunter to a widely recognized figure that's on TV and everything? Yeah, like you can't possibly walk through the, you can't walk through the airport without being recognized. Oh, gosh. No, everywhere, everywhere. So, my friend, Redwoodham, he's, you know, we went to junior high together, right? He lived right down the street for me. And all the, he's redhead.

and I was, well, I didn't go to school there, but I went to a different school, but the Mexicans would beat him up, so I'd stick up for him, right, on the way home, walking home. And so the reporter, Colorado Westwood, I think it's called, Ask Red, since dogs become famous, how much has he changed? And Red said, listen, he's been famous in his own mind since we were kids. He hasn't changed a bit. And, you know, I always, well, I love, you know, and this is what the first interview I do at Tony Robbins. And that's why everybody hugged me and said, I loved you. I love you. And I love to be said guy or girl, hey, love you dog.

And I either say, love you two or back out you. You know, I love that. I always wanted to be famous. You know, sometimes my mouth has got me in trouble and thank God I have fancy. because I get ready to say and she either, you know, taps me, she used to pinch me on the leg or the side. But if I get ready to say something, she'll, you know, gradually just go like that and I'll like shut up and I do sometimes.

Well, so the success, like did the success of the show help blow up the, like, did you start doing much better in the bondsmen? Were you getting more bonds as a result of the TV show? or did it not change that much? We got a lot more. Okay. Because my competitors go, oh, he catches you. You can be on television.

Now, I lost a few. But who doesn't want to be on TV, okay? Right. Well, especially back then. Like now you could have, you, pretty, anybody could be on the internet. But back then, there wasn't no such thing. Yeah. Well, there was, you know, Facebook, right?

They just came out. But, you know, I have got, like this lady, this one kid. we arrested him for heroin and I said how's it feel buddy you're going to hit rock bottom and he was like throwing up I can't go I can't go I'm throwing up but I called an ambulance right and I said let me tell you what they're going to do they have to put something up your butt that's like chalk and they squirt it so you don't poop all over right and so I told him that And he's like, okay, so I said, you better just shut up and go into the ambulance. So Big Bond, I put him in jail.

Three days later, one of my competitors got him out, right? So his mother calls me on the bail bonds line. Hi, I'm so-and-so's mom. And I'm like, ooh, hi. She goes, listen, did you know he, I told him, you better watch it. Because I'm telling you right now, the Lord's telling me, you're going to die of an overdose. I've been doing heroin for 12 years. I know what I'm doing.

I said, okay, you will see. So two or three days later, the mom called me up, and she goes, listen, my son died of a heroin overdose. I'm like, oh. And she goes, I was very upset that he signed a consent. And you got to show his face on that show. But she said, dog, that's the only thing is a clip of that show. I have left of my son his memory because she's in the mainland and he came to Hawaii.

So we wrote more bail again because who wouldn't want to be on TV. But there's a lot of sad stories that, you know, people were upset at me and then they did that, you know. So, you know, bail bonds has been good to me. I don't write bail anymore, but I bounty. hunt. It's funny because I would always see you, you would grab these guys and they'd be in the back of the van or the truck or where it was and you would sit down and you'd talk to them. It's funny because I would remember watching the show when I was locked up. So it must have been a rerun. Was it a rerun? No, I think it might not have been. What years? 2006 is when I got like. New. Oh, okay. Yeah. So yeah, but I remember watching that and thinking because I was in prison with all these guys.

I'm thinking, this is. Yeah, not real. No, no, no, not that it's not real, but this is going nowhere because these guys are not changing. But every once in a while, you know, it always, it depends. You could have a talk with someone. Right. And say the exact same thing that I'm telling them. And then somebody else could, and they just ignore it.

And they ignore it. Like, yeah, yeah, whatever, man. And they blow it off. And somebody else could say the same thing you're saying, just a little bit different. And that's, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, I used to think it was kind of a waste of time. Until I realized that after talking to enough guys and then every once in while I would say something and somebody would be like, and they just click. It would click to them.

Or somebody else would say the same thing that I've said to you. I've said the same thing that guy said, yeah, but the way he said it. Right. And suddenly they're ready to, you know what, I'm done. I'm going to go, I'm going to go get a job at McDonald's. And then I'm going to try and figure out how to sell used cars. Right. And then I'm done.

I stopped talking to all my old buddies that I was doing drugs with or that I was robbing banks. And suddenly they just, you see them three years later and you're like, the guy's a general contractor building new houses. And you're like, what happened? Yeah. Like, well, you know, I met this guy. I had that conversation with you. Yeah.

But the way he said it. Right. You know, so it just depends. So it's like, oh, is it a waste of time if you have that conversation with 30 people and it hits one person right, then it's not a waste of time. No. You know? Exactly.

Because at some point, if people keep trying, at some point it works. Yes. I hope. Or they end up dead or there's a life sentence. Exactly. Exactly. And that's what I tell them. Sometimes even the life sentence doesn't mean it's a life sentence.

No, 16 years in California, 16 years in Colorado. You know, a lot of places, oh, life is life. Yeah. But in a lot of times, you know, these guys are still there filing their cases. they do the right thing at some point some of these guys get their cases overturn from the the governor sometimes the appeal court sometimes there's new information like you know they keep fighting and sometimes you have some you have life and it ends up it ends up you know they're out in 20 years and they changed their life and because i've interviewed a lot of these guys who like did 20 25 years

they thought they were going to do life in prison they end up doing 25 or 30 years and right for some you know laws change they get out and next thing you know they open a nonprofit and they're they're They're housing inmates that just got out of prison. They've changed their whole life. Yes. And you're like, wow, what a waste it would have been had this guy had to stay in prison. Well, one of the greatest things that God gave me to say, you know, and I know it was from God. A lot of people say, I he's lying.

I say, so you've been in twice. How long? I did, you know, four years the first time and two the next. Like, oh, you're on parole, all that. You're going to stay out? I hope so I go. You like women. You like having sex with women.

Oh, I love it. You must not. I go, because you're not for sure you're never going back. But are you gay? No way. Well, then why do you keep breaking the law? You know you're a two-time loser. And it used to be three-time loser.

Now it's 25-time loser, right? Yeah. That California law went all the heck. and I say, so if you don't like girls, just keep on breaking the law. And that is the greatest thing I've said to a man, a man, you know, from 21 to 60, because they get it. You know, oh, man, you know. So, and I, and I, one time a cop did that to me, talked to me like that, and he let me smoke a cigarette. So that's where I got that, you know, is to be nice.

do a prayer with them you know uh they used to say that he beats him up uh let's him have a cigarette and pours jesus down their throat so at what what point did you kind of so you left hawai you came to florida is that right no left hawaii and went to colorado okay and then then came to florida couple years later we moved to florida okay why so i mean what what happened other than that you saying that the bail bondsman kind of dried up there right you also mean you're you're I mean you're kind of you know semi semi-retired no okay um we're hunting with Daniel now okay so yeah I was going to say so what happened you because you did get it kind of get out of it for a little bit right yeah you ended up hooking it to 19 I quit well I came back to do best funeral and then uh

francy and never went back. And now it's all Democratic. They're giving, I told you this, they were giving, putting people in jail for not wearing a mask on the beach. Right. Crazy. Well, the whole, the whole COVID thing was insanity. Yeah, sick.

But, well, you know, I, we moved, first we, we, we followed a preacher down to Naples, and then he became caca. and then we drove eight hours to Georgia because we went into this church and loved the guys and it's not they became caca, but I just didn't like that part of Georgia, right? And so one day, you know, I was sitting in the back of this rental house

in the garage all the time, and Francie's like, you know, you need to get off your butt and what do you, what do you want to do? And I go, Francie, I want a bounty hunt. You do? I go, yes. And so I don't know, Jeff Kirkpatrick, one of my good Boschman's friend,

you know, I said, who do you know that's got a bunch of jumps? He said, Daniel out of Georgia. And I'm like, oh, really? So then me and France, he met Daniel. And then we met his wife and Jesse and his wife. And, you know, we all just became good friends, okay? And now we're doing a show on YouTube. and pretty soon we're going to announce, you know, we're going to give like swag, t-shirts, books, whatever.

Daniel's going to contribute to the one who comes up with a good name. We can't name it Dog the Bounty Hunter, but we can say something before that and after that, right? Why can't you call it Dog the Bounty Hound? Because A&E's got the show Dog the Bounty Hunter. So I don't want to lawsuit with A&E, you know what I mean? Because they got billions, they'll win, right? Yeah. Or they'll postpone it so long until after I die.

I mean, those high dollar companies nowadays, that's what you do. File motion after motion after motion where it's all bull, but it's legal. Right. They'll wear you down. Yeah. And it's not like a something, a crime. You know, that now a year to a year and a half, you're going to trial. Civil, huh, it could be 10, 20 years before you win or lose.

they just wear you down, you know, offer you so much, offer you a little more, then offer you a little more, and you just got to hang in there until you get what you want. And usually everybody ends up taking, like, I call it a payoff, but it's a settlement, right? Because they just get sick of it. You end up spending more on a lawyer than you do getting the money. Right. So, I mean, that's the criminal, the criminal, that's America's court system. Court system, yeah. Because not always criminal, you just as civil. Yes. Civils is bad as is worse.

Right. Than the criminal, right? Because a lot of things you can't say in a criminal hearing. You can file any, you can file a motion to the court and say anything you want to say in a civil hearing. Criminal, you can't do that. There's no way. You can't, you got to prove. Allegedly, we're innocent till proven guilty.

In Mexico, you're guilty until you prove innocent. And I told the judge in Mexico, that's exactly like it is in the United States. You're not innocent to you're, you know, you're not innocent to prove guilty. You're guilty right away when you go to jail. You're guilty, bond set, trial. So you're doing a show, you're going to put on YouTube on your YouTube channel. Yes. Is the show the same kind of basic formula where you're jumping after guys that have jumped bail?

Same type of thing? Yes. Well, and Francie speaks. Her and I do both speak in prison, but she spoke at the county jail the other day. And, you know, she, I was crying. And everybody was like, one of the lieutenant, the captains, one of the female captains said, listen, I have never seen all the captains, lieutenants, and all that smiling like they were when your wife was talking. I'm like, what? Because I was crying. And they said, man, she never been

a jail or nothing, but she hit home with a lot of girls. And the girls that she was speaking to started bawling. You think my testimony, prison and all that something? It's nothing compared to her testimony. And so that's why I had no idea of her past. Just the other day we were talking about something, I had no idea of that. I have told Francie everything there is, and she slowly lets out stuff to me.

You know what I mean? So we're going to show that, and then bounty hunt, and then anywhere there's a felon, okay, and this is what upsets, bondsman and anything. Usually there's a cash reward, you know, and the feds, though, or whoever puts it up, if it's over 50, dogs on it, okay?

So I could make any kind of arrest I want to in 98% of the states, and it's called a citizen's right to arrest. As long as you know there's a warrant and can prove it, it's like it's on NCIC. You don't even have a copy of it. And you can get them. can't boot down a door and all that, but you could snag them. Now, you can't transport them. You got to call a cop. I did it on the A&E show. You got to call a cop and have them come get the guy, and then they'll give you a body receipt, and then who's ever, you know, neighborhood watch or

whatever that has rewards, then you could collect that. Because it's a bounty hunter, okay? That means you get money for hunting down the bad guy, right? But it's not just bail bonds. In fact, in the day when the bounty hunter started like one of the first bounty hunters was Billy the kid and his regulators. They went after all those guys. And I used to say when I had a bunch of mess up kids that I bounty hunted with and I took them to Wyoming and all that right where Billy the kid sat. We built a fire. We prayed. I made him eat in the morning. Not smoked pot till we were done with the bounty. I had it gave them all t-shirts. You know, had a big star bounty hunter if they did an arrest by themselves.

And I always would say regulators, mown up. And they just loved it. So, yeah, so Billy the kid, the real one, was one of the first. And there was a black guy, too. That was, uh, he was, you know, black.

And they all, back then, everyone in the West hated that. And he was one, he, back in his day, he was the greatest bounty hunter. I forget his name Barrel or something like that. The greatest bounty hunter there was. Now, I didn't know none of this.

The show that I loved the most was wanted dead or alive with Steve McQueen. Right. He had a past. He never killed anyone. And when he got him in custody, he'd say, hey, what's wrong with you, man? Now, did I know? Did I get it from there? Subconsciously, maybe.

I arrested this guy on A&E, the convict, right? And so I got the, he's a ball-headed guy. So I got the convict in the truck, in the backseat. And I go, what TV shows did you grow up? What did you like? And he went, Jimmy Cagney, that, you know, he goes, come and get me a coffer. You know, he's a bad guy. I go, what?

And some other show where it was a bad guy. He goes, dog, what shows you like? I went, Sky King. You know, he was a marshal in the sky bounty hunter, wanted dead or alive. The Lone Ranger, Tarzan, oh, right? Because he'd love him, Jane, had boy. I mean, I was, I, and, you know,

I watched that, you know, Cagney stuff too, but that didn't really resonate with me. It's the good. So when you're young, whatever the parents let their children watch now on YouTube, whatever, that's what builds their future. Right. And whether I knew it, you know, I really realized that then when I talked to convict and I'm like, you really like them shows.

He goes, oh, yeah, he could say that Jimmy Cagney. He goes, come and get me, copper. He could say it just like him, right? And I'm like, good Lord. So it's just different strokes for different folks. How to build a convict, right? Internet. Like, do you ever look back on your life and just think, like, is there ever a,

a scenario where you don't live this kind of extra extraordinary life you know what I mean yeah you ever think about just getting your degree as an accountant just being a regular accountant or an accountant or something like you just felt like you always this was always going to be your pat your your your future so I am an adrenaline junkie okay so how are you going to get adrenaline if you're an accountant I mean you got adrenaline because you were you know blah blah Yeah, I'm walking in the banks. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Oh, my God. You talk about scared? I would never do that. Do you hear this? How many times have I said that? I said, do you know how many guys that I know that are like bank robbers, drug dealers, drug smugglers, and they would always say like, bro, you just walked in the bank? I'm like, what do you?

Nobody's, me applying for a loan is not scary. These people don't have a gun. Like you're going into a drug deal or you're going into a bank. with a gun, like there are guards, they have guns. The cops might be waiting for you. Like, I don't think what I did was scary at all, but they would say that all the time. And I think that's crazy. I would never go into a bank with fake ID and cash a check.

No frigid way. That's fun. I would be shaken all over and I'm not a good liar, okay? I'm a great liar. See, I'm not. Huh? What is the question? Sorry, go ahead.

What other stuff should I add that? We didn't cover that. you. Do you think Matt would make a good bounty hunter? You would, Matt would make, Matt would make a good information guy. Matt could do your book. I could do the books for the bounty hunter. Yes.

You could, well, you could find people like on the internet too, right? Or you could trick them, right? Leland's got this one page that's a girl. And then he just writes, oh, I like to meet you, baby, and caposob, blah, blah, and they show up. I'll hit them up on Instagram, convince them to meet me at a, at a restaurant. Yes.

So a lot of people ask me, you know, what do I want to accomplish in the last season of my life? Well, I don't think if maybe Leland could tie my, because he's getting a lot, could tie my record. But I want to be able to out beat Leland. And every time I don't even count, have it counted for years, each time. I thought that I had lost it because I hadn't bounty hunting until 219.

And the first, second, third bounty that I did with Daniel, I was very proud of myself because I still had it in me. And bounty hunting, when you start going, you know, two weeks on, two weeks off, that's what we do with the networks, CMT and WG and A&E, you get on a roll, okay? when you stop completely, it's like riding a chopper. I wrote choppers all the time. I first got out a couple of years ago in California, and I was like, I was freaked out.

And I'm like, wait a minute. You know, they say when you ride a bicycle, you never forget. Well, I got on the bicycle, was freaking out. Francie wasn't there, and I just tried to ride. We have this one that you ride. It rides itself. You charge a battery and all that.

And she wasn't there. And I was like, oh, shaking. I was like, hell with this, I'm not riding without fancy. So bounty hunting, you got to keep doing it, keep doing it. And each time, no matter what, you can teach an old dog new tricks. And I am teaching the young bucks new tricks, too. Josh, and a lot of them are, you know, amazed by what I just come up with, right? Right.

And the few do is always say, what are you going after me for? because you want it, you know, and a lot of the fugues, they go to jail, I know this for sure, who caught you, dog to bounty hunter? Oh, man, really? Are you going to be on TV? And he's like, I don't know, he said that he's not doing TV, he's doing YouTube and all of his socials. Oh, man, I wish I'd be caught by dog. And do you have a cigarette? Yeah, here, buddy, you know, I know that I've had cops call me and say, man, this guy's number one in the county jail because he got caught. by you and one of my sons Christopher's still in freaking prison in Colorado and I'm like how you doing he's like dad I'm in the yard and everything's cool because everybody knows you know that I'm your son

you know everything cool dad you know you put so-and-so in here years ago he's still in here he said you know your dad did me right he had I had a bunch of dope on him he threw it away poured water on it you know your dad's cool that's four we ever filmed right yeah all the people say oh you do that because you're filming no okay I did it way before before there was even cameras, there was even a reality show. I do what I do, okay, very successfully. Thank God. Because I, you know, I want to be the number one bounty hunter in the world and set a record that will go down in the, what is it, Giddies book, Guinness Book of Records, that no one could ever beat me. And why am I like that? I don't know. It's in my DNA, you know. I want to be

the best. You know, I wanted to be the best dad. I wanted to be the best husband. I thought I was the best dad. A couple of my kids will say no. And my ex-wives would say he wasn't a very good husband. Francie's the only woman I haven't ever messed around on. Every other woman I was married to 10, 12, 20 times, right? Some it was grudge. Some yelled at me and da-da-da. And I thought, Yeah, wait till this. And then when I did it, I go, here, take this. And who was I hurting? Myself.

Right? Myself. You can't please everybody. No, but Francie told me once, I said, I was on this really, it was a spooky road, right, in Florida. We got lost or something. I said, honey, you know, what if I really got drunk? And I went out on you or stuff like that. She goes, I want to tell you right now.

And she is was and is and she you should have her on here once. She is a pure freaking gangster. Okay. No, bra. She was and is. She goes, listen, I know you and that with Beth and da-da-da-da, but I'm going to tell you right now, I will blow your head off. And she carries a gun.

And she said, I go, you go to prison for life. she goes, listen, I look really good in an orange jumpsuit. And I never planned on getting married after Bob died. And I'll stay in there and preach the gospel to every girl I come up with. And I started shaking. And I, because I am afraid of no one but her. And I said, do you have a gun right now, Francie? She goes, maybe.

And I was like, holy shit. I had deleted all the shit off my phone, right? And then one time I just follow girls that, you know, look big or sexy, da-da-da-da. She's like, who's all these? And Monica, our assistant, her assistant, is one of the biggest rats there is. Yesterday's, you know, there's one that I got $1.8 million on, and I'm, like, jamming too bad as a bone, right? And all these people were saying, yeah, look at dogs in the flip-flops. And, you know, he's, oh, man, he's bullshit.

And I wrote, I said, I go, listen to all you haters. First, I said, first of all, thank you for the people that did talk good. And I said, all your haters, keep on hating. And where is your 1.8 million views? Right. So, thank you. And now, Monica call me. She goes, I deleted that.

So I, you know, Monica is freaking, she's, uh, she's, uh, Francie's little freaking hench girl, henchman, right? I mean, what is she doing? Looking at my comments on Instagram, right? Sometimes you need people to protect you from yourself, you know? Yeah, true. That's Colby. I say stuff all the time and I'm like, oh, and I'll say something,

and then I'll watch the video. But you took that, you took that out. He's like, yeah, no, I'm not, we're not putting that in. You said that it's right. Right. Well, you know, I agree, like sometimes I agree. Like somebody'd say something bad and I'd go, oh, listen, listen, buddy, I would have been your daddy, but the line was too long. See what I mean?

I used to, right? And then sometimes I still say, and your mama thought so. And Francis, like, why do you always talk about their mamas? Well, you're a former prison inmate. You know, don't you talk about our daddy, our sister, our brother, but don't nobody talk about our mama, right? because all hell breaks loose. And even though my mom has passed away, still no one better talk about her.

So I was talking about their mama, right? And I said the other day something, but your mom sure thought so. Your mama did, and Monica missed it. I ain't going to say where. I hope she well, once she sees this, she can't go back that for her. Either that or she deleted it and didn't tell me.

But yesterday she called me, he's going, what are you doing? You blah, blah, blah. And I was like, well, I didn't say nothing. You can't do that. I said, all right. But for a moment when I said it, it made me feel good. And I thought, oh, Francie doesn't look.

She's going to be okay with it. She don't look at none of my stuff. And Monica's, you know, too busy doing other stuff. And lo and behold, Monica found it. So, but over, you know, I want to be, I still want to be the best. And I want to leave an impression. You know, he was a sinner and he died and went to heaven. The devil used to tell me you're going to be the guy that lights the pit of fire.

And I would go, oh, really? Yeah. I'm a devil's disciple. Forever, forever loaded. One percenter. A ride free or die hard. I thought like that. You know, I really thought that stuff deep inside.

I hated authority. Anybody that tried to get authority on me, I hated them. Now I accept it. And I look back and say, how stupid was that guy? And how lucky am I today? How lucky I'm alive and how lucky I am in everything. So again, we're going to announce in a couple days, you know, give people some kind of of stuff for the name of the show. And we'll be doing it in, uh, mostly in Georgia as far as the

jumps, but we're also going to be doing it where it's like, uh, wherever, you know, wherever they like, you know how, uh, when they needed Batman, the, the wings was in the sky. Yeah. Wherever the D is in the sky, I'm going. And Francie doesn't care either. She going with me, right? So I'm nationwide and even in other countries. Okay. Would I do the luster thing again? Absolutely.

Okay. If it went down exactly like it did. You know, I was promised a million bucks with the stupid judge ruled against me, dumb punk. But then I had one of William Ballard, the crookedest lawyer there ever was in that case. and I'm going to do not a book, but we're going to do something coming soon where I'm going to tell all about what William Baller did, okay, because he blackmailed me. And so other than that, it's been, you know, great.

I love every one of my children, you know, I stay in contact with almost every single one. you know even francy's son gregg you know i speak to talk to just as much as any of my real sons and he feels like my real son i love him so much right and he's got a new girlfriend and i love her too and so i'm very you know i'm very proud to gone the way i've gone now right God has blessed me more than any human being on earth. And why? I have no idea. You know, the Bible says that God loved David because he was a good repenter.

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And then Francie made me doing saying this. when I say, Lord, forgive me for all the sins I've committed, and even the ones that I didn't know were sins, and maybe the ones that I'll commit tomorrow. And she goes, that ain't going to work. I did that, right? So she has taught me a lot about spirituality, spirituality. We're both not too good, you know, high mucka, high,

mucka, big mucka mucka, big shot. We're not too high mucka-mucka believers to think our poop don't stink, right? Right. Because there's one man never dialed the wrong number, never jaywalked, never cursed, and his name was Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Actually, he was born in Bethlehem. But I had a rich part, but he had to move to the poor part of Nazareth. So I'm very, very lucky, and thank you for having me on your podcast.

I was going to do a dog cast, but it didn't work out, you know, but yours is working out. So thank you, brother. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you for coming. And let me give everybody my phone number. It's eight. Hey, you guys.

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