Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - How To Become A Millionaire After Prison | Felon Entrepreneur

Episode Date: May 29, 2024

How To Become A Millionaire After Prison | Felon Entrepreneur

That's why I think I'm so smart because I never went to school. So I've been to prison about 15 years altogether. I've been to prison four different times, back to back. All I want to do is I want to document from me getting out to when I'm multi, multi-millionaire and be like, look, it's all on tape. So that's what I started doing when I got out of prison. I'm down to zero dollars now, basically like I drive out to Tampa on a hope and a dream. I was born in Casca, New York.

I had a brother, older brother. I had a mother up until about, like, 10 years old, came down to, she ended up getting really sick. And we came to Florida. She found out she had, like, hepatitis C. And back then, they didn't have a treatment. So when I came down here, she started, like, losing her hair. It was, like, bedridden and everything. And I just went off the deep end.

She started, like, smoking dope. Gone. She was gone out of my life. I was, like, 10 or 11. I stopped going to school. Sixth grade was, like, the last grade I even went to. Where was your dad? Never had a dad.

He was in prison. And I remember meeting one time on Easter like years and years and years ago, but never really had a dad. Why was he been in prison? I can't even tell you, man. I like, I like, I just never even thought about that part of my life. Not in a bad way, just never had considered a dad. Like, it was just like, I don't have a dad, no, you don't know what I mean? And came to Florida, my mom started smoking dope, and I just started running the streets.

I was around a lot of drug dealers and everything, started breaking in houses. I ended up getting addicted to the drugs, too. I started smoking dope with my mom. I was like 11 or 12 years old. Like, yeah. Like, freaking, I'm talking about crack. Like, we're smoking dope. And I'm 12 years old.

I don't even know. My wife, twas, 11 or 12, and she first smoked fucking meth with her, with her, like, her stepmother. It's like, what are you thinking? Yeah. And yeah, that's really basically how it went. And I started getting locked up back then. I remember how it was the first time you got locked up.

Like 12, 12 years old. I think I broke in, my, my friend's mom had some weed and we knew about the weed, broke in her house, took the weed. She ended up calling the cops. They came there, whatever. I got arrested. They ended up dropping the charges because she was trying to say other stuff was stolen, but we just took the weed.

Still wrong, nevertheless, you know what I mean? So, ended up going to juvenile there. They released me in Pascoe County. They have a rule. Like, you do 21 days and you get out. out, right? But I'm so young that I would get out for 21 days. I'll just do another crime.

And I would get back to, I'm talking about, I had about 40, maybe 40, 50 felonies on my juvenile record for real. But they couldn't put me in, they couldn't put me in anything because I was so young. I'm like 12, 13. They couldn't give you six months in a, in a juvie. I was so young. It was literally 21 days and I would get out. And I knew how to like, so if you go to an arraignment and you say like, like, you plead

guilty, whatever, then they could put you for, uh, you. I can't remember what they call it, but staffing for kids. So then they say, okay, you're going to a program. Then they could hold you. But I would never go to court because I knew this. So I'll get out 21 days and I'll run, right? They would catch up to me. Do 21 days.

Court would never come up. So I did this for a couple years until I was 16, 16 years old, 16th birthday adjudicated me. I was in juvenile. 16 when she slapped the county. Boom. Went to the county jailed 16. and then that was like the start of my criminal career. You said you went to county jail.

Yes. How much for how much? I ended up, they gave me four years prison. For what, though? Well, I had all these charges as I was right.

You just kept raking up the charges. So it's like multiple, and these are all like burglaries? Um, or something. Like, you name it. Burglaries,

shoplifting, car, anything. It wasn't like, you know, I was just running, I was just running rampant. Took a bunch of guns.

We had a bunch of guns. had a bunch of assault rifles and AK. It was like, yeah, like some real deals, like some crazy stuff. And I didn't know what I was doing. It wasn't like I was like run like a gangster and not like that. I'm just just a kid just freaking wreaking havoc. So when you rob the guy for the guns, how old were you? I was about 13 at the time.

Okay. I was just at the time, I would go around neighborhoods, scouring neighborhoods. I would dress up real nice. I was still looking like a kid. I didn't want to like have clothes that would draw attention. to me. Yeah, you look innocent. Nobody expects anything.

Yes, and I would go at school time because the best time to do is at school time because all the kids are running around, but you know that people aren't at home because they go to work. So I go to like blue collar, like upper class, but still like, you know, they go to work. You know, the two cars are gone. The kids are gone. I would look for like basketball hoops because I know kids are there, so they're at school and the people are at work.

I ended up like climbing into a window of this house. And when I went into the house, the first thing that had, like, um, I realized that all the doors and everything were barricaded. You couldn't get in or out of the house with only through a window. Everything was deadlocked and there was no handles on the insides of the doors. It was, it was not normal. No, no. So the first thing I found, I found an AR-15 behind this guy's bed.

And I'm a kid. So I automatically, I pull a blanket off the, or I think I throw the gun on the top of the bed, wrap it up with a blanket and put it by the window because I got to crawl back out the window. And then as I started looking more, I found, we had an AR-15. I found an S-K-S, a Mossburg 12-gauge pump with the, I found a 45 Thompson, which is a Tommy gun. And I'm just finding all these rents. So I'm just keeping them in the blanket, putting them in the blanket. What is this place? Like, is this like a, you know, oh, sorry, go ahead. No, no, no, no, no. It's, um, so at the time I didn't know. It was just a house.

So I take a bunch of the guns back. I think at that time I had about three or four guns. I climb out the window. I'm scared, but I'm walking down the street with his blanket. I'm just, yeah, I'm like walking on the street. I go to my brother. My brother, we're at this chick's house. We had partied the night before. My brother's like five years older than me. So he was 17 at the time. He might have been 18 and I was 13. I was, you know what I mean? And I say, hey, there's a bunch of guns. Let's go back. So we go back and get the rest of the guns. There ended up being seven of them. And that was the, that was, so what happened was, was the guy was a military weapon specialist for the for the Marines okay yeah and um so it was a big deal

uh in the papers news everything they put a reward for the guns they're like hey we need to get these off the streets um so i guess so the guy i was chilling with name was Jeremy he was my neighbor um on like a corner was like a little apartment building the corner from where i was staying at with my mom now my mom was sick at the time she had hepatitis she had Like, I don't know the stages of hepatitis, but she was, she was gone, whatever. And so my neighbor ended up, I guess the feds came to my neighbor's house. I didn't notice at the time. How did they get there?

Someone called, I have no idea. Maybe he caused it was a reward. Oh, okay. So this is what I'm guessing. I don't really know exactly how it all transpired. All I know is he had his house wired for sounding cameras and they were watching us. but prior to like he even had his house

sound or wired my brother ended up getting robbed for the guns because we're kids you know what I mean someone pulls up says he wants to buy the guns he puts the guns in the truck with the dude

the dude just sticks them up like right they're mine yeah yeah so the guns were already gone so the guy had his house wired everything

we already moved on we're not even thinking about these guns anymore you know we got so much stuff going on So my neighbor ends up setting, like, they don't have the evidence to get us, but maybe they do. We're at Walmart. You know, I'm reading this on the discovery later on.

Like, once you get, you know, we got caught for the crime. Once you get caught, you get a discovery to show everything that happened. And come to find out, the feds were, like, following us. They were at Walmart one time. They were, like, ready to jump out with all these things. But we didn't have no guns, right? Right. So, come to find out, we ended up telling ourselves.

Right. So they couldn't find anything, whatever. So they just feds came to us and. So they were watching in the house. They had the house wired and they were watching it, hoping they would see the guns or hoping you would talk about it. But by that time, the guns had been stolen. You guys aren't even thinking about the guns.

No. They're not able to gather really any evidence. But at some point, they just move in and grab you. Yeah, they move in and grab us. They grab me first. And I'm a kid. I was just telling myself. Yeah.

You know, they're like, we got you. We got you. And I'm like, okay. You know what I mean? But again, I was so young. I just went to JDC, 21 days. I was out. My brother ended up going to prison.

So the feds ended up, didn't pick it up. State ended up picking it up. And my brother ended up getting like six years in prison. Yeah. Jesus. He's out now. But he was an adult. So thank God he even got that because that was like a...

Yeah, these are machine guns. Yeah, these real deal machine guns. Yeah. And that was the, that was like the first time. That was like the first time, like, I really, really got in trouble. I wonder what that charge would have been in the Fed. It's funny because most charges are worse in the Fed, but some charges, you're better off in the state.

Like, they'll give you two years. The Fed would give you 10, you know? So I was one, but a machine gun in the feds, I think it's probably like 10 years. Probably, yeah, it's probably, probably would have been worse if he had been gone fed. Yeah, this was back in like 2000 or something, so I don't even, I don't even, me.

It was a big, it was a big deal. He got six years? How much time do you do? I think he ended up doing like four, Um, he got, I'm pretty sure he got charges a youthful offender for that because he was 18. Okay. Um, he might have been 17. It was a long time ago, but he got charged of a youthful offender, so they like break it up.

So I think, I think he ended up getting like four years and two years. And, um, that's how that, but I ended up, I just got out. I ended up getting nothing for the, right, for the charge. I was a juvenile. You're just a kid. Yeah. And not even like a 17 year old kid. You're like a kid kid.

You're like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So what happened? What happened after that? All right. So my brother goes to prison. That was the time, like, my life really like, because once my brother, I remember, I was with my brother this whole time. We came to Florida. My mom got sick.

You know, stuff was going down. My brother goes to prison. And that's actually when I think I started debilling and dabbling in cocaine with my mom because my brother wasn't there. Because I don't remember doing that when my brother was there now in recollection. Right. Because my mom had been sick. So my brother goes to prison.

by myself, you know what I mean? And I started doing drugs with my mom. Your mom's deteriorating. She's getting worse. She's got to take care of you. So she just figured start selling drugs. Yeah, that's the way to survive. No, no electric.

I grew up in no electric. It was like candles. I used to take a shower at the neighbors. Like, we had an old people's apartment complex behind our house, and I would literally have to, like, run across the field and take a shower in the pool. because of hot water because we didn't have no electric

or anything like that grass was about five feet high in the yard I remember I had a school bus coming to pick me up and I would run down

the street I would run and jump up in the morning take a shower this is like my this is like the first little before because I didn't

I didn't even complete sixth grade so this is probably around there about six grade beginning of sixth grade I run down the street and to meet the bus because I didn't want

I'm pulling up of my house because it was grass it just looked it's just a little bad yeah and um so what happened after that like i mean what's like the next time you get grabbed well um it's been so many times after that uh i just kept like just going back just going back and that's when they were letting me out doing the 21 days i would do 21 days in jdc pasco uh detention center over here they would let me out um i was just running rampant stealing robbing houses robbing people robbing um drug dealers people that were you know friends with i would i would act like i was cool with these local drug dealers and stuff like that and when um they would show me where their stuff was at we'd either stick

them up with a gun uh put a mask on ski mask or tie a shirt over your head you know what me just got the eyes right and just run down on them you know with a pistol or whatever we have at the at the time and that's basically what I was doing and I just kept going back to uh never it was a revolving door just kept going back to jail until um my turn 16 and that's when I was in county jail uh they direct filed me to county jail from 16 I was in juvenile 16th birthday they come in they're like ha ha we got you like you know we've been waiting for this what the cops are telling me they're like we've been waiting for this um you know what I mean let's go bring me straight to county jail put me in a cell close the door I'm 16

Okay. Well, I mean, you said they, they, do they adjudicate you, like, as an adult, make you an adult? Yeah. Yeah. So you get direct filed is what they call it. Okay. So when you're a juvenile, when you turn 16, you could be direct filed as an adult. I think they change it to 15 now because there's like kids who get like murder charges and stuff and then they get direct filed. Maybe it's got to be like extenuating circumstances. But I remember 16 straight county jail, Newport Ritchie Detention Center, actually. And got four years prison. Four years prison at 16. Where'd you go? Went to Indian River. So Indian River is a youthful offender camp. Okay.

Probably one the craziest. So there's four youthful offender camps. You got... Are you concerned about this? I'm sorry. Are you concerned about this at all? Like when you're going... I know you're saying you've been in and out, in and out.

But, I mean, are you scared? Like, they give you four years in prison. What are you thinking? I was scared to death. I'm scared when I go to prison, I was an adult. I was like, you know, I'm scared to death. You know, there's all these horror stories. You know, you're going to get beat up and, you know, you're going to beat up.

You're going to get raped. You're going to be somebody's punk. Yeah. So I was super scared, you know, but at the same time, like, growing up in, like, that environment, you know that you just got to, like, fight no matter what. Like, it don't even matter if you're scared or not. You just got to go head first, you know. And that was basic, like, the concept I had.

So when I went into Indian River, they do like, they call it a test of heart. And the test of heart is like when new guys come in, you come in with a, back then they would give you a laundry bag, right, with all your brand new blues. So a blues is like your prison uniform for Florida. Right. So they would give you this bag of blues. They're all brand new. And like brand new blues in prison is like a coveted thing because you can't get brand new blues unless you buy them. But at this prison, at Indian River, you couldn't buy them.

only from the new guys and the way they set the dorm up which doesn't mean it don't make sense to me right so they have um it's like like a re not a reentry dorm but uh like a at so that it's these these big wings right just probably like a hundred rooms in these wings you got like 25 on top 25 on the bottom 25 on top and 25 on the bottom and they just uh you could actually like the kids could um you could pop your door like there's no security or nothing. So what they do is the top, the top row is supposed to be for people

getting out of confinement. It's like a reentry dorm for confinement. So you got all the worst of the worst in the prison with the new people coming in. Right. You see what I'm saying? They're like victims. So as soon as you come in,

the kid, there's no, there's no cops, you know, contrary to belief, there's no police there. They just put you in a, put you in his wing and, your room is 119B and you just go to 119B and

as soon as you come in there you got you have your brand new blues you're already a target you got brand new socks you got like three pairs of socks three pairs of boxers three pairs of uniforms and you're just

just fed to the wolves to where they come in right up like a group of guys comes in and just tells you do they tell you give me your stuff yeah that's when you got to fight so yeah so like if you got to like literally just just pop off

like and that's what I did so they came in the room I just jumped up and punched one of them it happened to be the head of the Crips yeah and they freaking beat me to sleep yeah but but the good thing about that afterwards they're like man this white boy right here is is freaking he punched the head of Crips um and uh they ended up having me line because I you know I punched the leader or whatever so I had to line it up with seven people what does that mean like so there's like seven people on a line and you got to fight each one back to back yeah This is a horrible story. Blindfolded.

I ain't lying, bro. Blindfolded, I swear to God. You could ask, you could ask, bro. I put a blindfold on because it was either that or you're just going. So, like, the leader of the Crips is like, look, you can either fight these seven dudes blindfolded or we're just going to just keep kicking you to sleep. He's like, I like, you know, you got, you got, you got moxie. He didn't say moxie, but, like, you know, you got, you got, you got hard, you got balls.

He's like, so this is what we're going to do. We're going to line it up. You're going to put seven of these guys. You're going to fight them blind him. blindfolded and I said run it and I ran it fought seven of them they jumped me I got hit with a lock but after that though I got do anything I want in the compound walk around buy by by canteen have a canteen bag you can't do that oh you can't just go buy canteen like that in the in the youthful offender prison like yaki if you ain't got no respect you go up to

that window you buy a suit before you get back to the dorm they're fucking taking it right right there at the window the cops don't care they gonna be they gonna beat you right there at the window or are you going to be just buying somebody something because they'll come up to you uh you know it wasn't they weren't really stabbing in there their thing was locks right they want to hit you with a lock they don't they don't i mean people do get stabbed or cut but yeah look at the work the one of the worst things i ever saw was a guy get beat he must have hit six or seven times with a lock in the head and you know your head bleeds and there was just blood everywhere i was like Jesus.

Yeah. Like, the lock's as bad as getting stabbed. I mean, it's just bad. You see those guys with the little horseshoes on their head. Yeah, because that little dial part hits you. Yeah, or just the roundness of the lock, it leaves those little circular. Oh, it's horrible. Yeah.

How often you even go to a canteen? Like, can you go every day in the state? Well, as far as a youthful offender, like, you could, so there's a canteen man in the window because he gets paid to be there. It's just like a full-time job. Now, whether the police let you go to the canteen is another question. Right. But you could get to canteen because the Jits don't care.

Kids don't care. Even at the adult, you'll sneak out. They call it sliding. So people slide. They'll be like, oh, you want to go to a canteen window? You got to slide. And that means whether somebody will be going to like an appointment. So they go to pop the door and then a guy just literally runs up under him.

So because the way the booths are in the Department of Corrections of Florida is like you got about a six foot. It's about six foot up and it's like a glass bubble on both sides. So there'll be one dorm and one dorm and then there'll be like a booth in the middle and then they can see on both sides. Right. But you're still about six feet up. So you can literally like army crawl out the door. So a lot of people will army crawl out the door to hit the canteen window. And then literally like James Bond like they'll like go on the side and creep around.

and get to the window. It's pretty much a game. Yeah. Well, I was going to say, because in federal, you know, you go once a week. You got a number. You go once a week. You're not going again. Oh, no.

But then again, you could also, you'll get a bag of, you'll get you all your canteen. You'll come back with your laundry bag. Yeah. Bring it back. You know, nobody's robbing you. Hey, no one robbing you. Yeah. You go back.

You put it in your locker. You put your locker on your locker. You're probably. Yeah, that's dangerous. I've seen, I've seen someone get busted in the head. Actually, it was at DeSoto. the canteen man had froze a guy's Coke for him, and the guy took the frozen Coke out and put it in a canteen bag,

because you don't really want to put in a sock. That's more of a myth. Because if you ever put, like, a lock or something in a sock, it'll bust out the sock and shoot out. And that's like the last thing you want to do if you're going to hit somebody. You don't want to hit him with a sock, you know what I mean? So, yeah, I seen the dude had to put a frozen Coke can in a canteen bag and tied it up in a knot, so a stick there, and he just bashed the dude in the head right there at the canteen line

with a frozen Coke. That was that DeSoto Correctional, for real. Yeah, this is back in, what, 2009, I think? Yeah, something like that. How long would you be there? You were four years to that? You got six. Okay, so I've been to prison about 15 years altogether.

I've been to prison four different times, back to back. Like, I didn't even get out. This is the longest I've ever been out. I've been out about four years, almost four years this time. But that time, you said you got six years. How much time did you do? My brother had got six years. I got four years.

How much time did you do? I did about three and a half years. But what saved me, though, is I went to the boot camp. The new BMO VI Porter MasterCard is your ticket to more. More perks, more points, more flights, more of all the things you want in a travel rewards card, and then some. Get your ticket to more with the new BMO ViPorter MasterCard and get up to $2,400 in value in your first 13 months. Terms and conditions apply.

Visit bemo.com slash the iPorter to learn more. So, I mean, it was like a blessing, man. God's been blessing me in my whole life, man. I went to the boot camp. That's a rare thing. You go to the boot camp. You do four months you get out.

But it's like hard, intensive training. You're at a boot camp. There's people screaming in your face and all that stuff. Right. But there's people who have 15 years and do four months and get out. Because it's like, it's just like, it's like one. You get a one shot opportunity. Like if you never.

been in trouble before as far as like adult you know what I mean if you've never been in trouble you go there you could qualify for this boot camp and sumter and something to correctional they have a youthful offender boot camp but I went there did four months and got out how old were you probably maybe like 15 16 at the time some around there I was still I was still I was still young or no I mean what 20 yeah because I went to county jail I went to kind of jail when I was 16 direct file so I had to be three and a half I was like 18 19 something like that Yeah, yeah. And did you get your GED when you were locked up?

I did. I did get my GED. Funny part about that is because, like, I didn't, I never finished sixth grade, never went to school since, like, maybe a couple months in the sixth grade. I went in there and they make you do like standardized testing when you first, first, first go there. They classify you based on your test. And I scored so high that I went into the, I went into the classification whenever to, and they're like, you scored so high that you could just.

just take your GED. I was like, okay. Oh, that's fine. You took it? Yeah, well, I was actually in the box. So you were, like, supposed to, like, go through, like, the, like, pre-classes or something, but I was in confinement at the time. So when they came and, when they came and got me, they just opened my door one day.

I'm in the box. And they're like, hey, it's time to take your GED. No prep work, nothing. Nothing. Went in there and aced it, you know? Yeah, I used to teach GED to the guy. Yeah, went in there and aced it. got my GED that was a good thing that was a good part about prison that was back then

in the youthful offender in the youthful offenders get out a boot camp I started living with my mom again and that's probably when stuff really started going crazy because she's still get high I'm older now we start getting high together she has all these drug dealer friends but now I'm able to interact with them better if that makes sense because now I'll older i'm not a kid anymore i get out so we start uh we start um going crazy together what does that mean like we start um mom introduced me to a whole other world of like drug dealers and stuff like that and we just started getting high together um smoking a lot of when you whenever you got two people two minds together to you know what i mean um because she my mom's robbing people too yeah my mom's

robbing people man she would call the dope dealers up they put the dope in her hand and she'll just take him, like, I ain't giving it back. I see my mom get punched in the face one time by a dope dealer. I didn't even do nothing either, because I'm just like, bro, she was wrong. Like, I didn't even, like, I didn't even know she was going to like this day. And she didn't tell me she was going to do it or nothing. So what happened? You said you guys were getting high.

Like, did you start selling drugs? Yeah, so I started. I was always like, my whole life, I kind of been selling drugs in one capacity, another when I was a kid, it was like weed and then went to like, you know, whatever. But I was getting high at the same time. And my mom had a, like, a known trap house, not like a trap house, like the rappers talk about now. But everybody would basically, like, sit there and get high. Right.

And they'd pay her. They call her Crazy Kate. My mom's name was Crazy Kate. And they would come to her and she would get all the dope. Like, you couldn't get dope from nowhere else unless you went there. So she would be like an all-in service, I guess. You would get there, pay her the money. She'll get the dope.

Make whatever she's going to get, give you your dope. And then she has all, like, the necessities to get high in peace, I guess. You know what I mean? Right. There's a place you can sit down. You can stay here. It's safe. You're not going to be fucked with.

And it was never dirty either. So my mom's, like, super clean. Like, that's one thing she kept in super clean. So, yeah, so she had a pretty, there was no electric or not like that. But, yeah, so you could go there. This is horrible. You could go there, get high on peace. Ain't got to worry about nobody.

She has a constant flow of dope. You know what I mean? The dope dealers would come over there. And she was just making money like that And then also like you'd have dope boys That stayed over there overnight You know Sometimes they don't got a place or whatever

She'd have a back room They could go in there and sleep And not where you know Locked the door Not worry about people robbing them And she ever get raided or anything The cops ever show up? No man my mom's never got raided ever

Never Never got raided So what happened As this is happening Are you still like doing burglaries I shot away from the burglars When I got out because I never liked breaking in people's stuff, man.

It always felt like wrong. Even like, because I used to bring in these houses and I would like look at the wall and they're like pictures of Jesus on the wall and stuff. And I'm just like, no. Like I can't believe I'm doing this. You know what I mean?

Or see their kids' pictures. I felt horrible, man. I ain't a lie. And so like when I got, I just stuck more to the selling dope. And I became like pretty successful for selling dope as far as someone could be for doing it at the same time. Like if I had,

If I hadn't been doing it at the same time, I would have been doing my thing, you know what I mean? I had cars and, you know, all that, nothing super, not not bends or nothing, but I had like cars. And I had, I had really good plugs, and they would give me, like, dope, like super cheap. And, I mean, there was no way you couldn't make money at the time. And that, that ended up me going back to prison.

How did that happen? This last time. So the time before this, uh, how did I end up going to prison? Man, I've been to prison so many times, man, I'm not going to lie, bro. So after you get out as a youthful offender, what was the next time you went? All right. So the next time I went to, so the next time I went to prison after a youthful offender,

it had to have been. All right. So the next time I went to prison as the youthful offender, man. Bro, I freaking don't even remember, bro. Have you been four times? Yeah, I've been four times. You got out after the boot camp. All right.

I got out after the boot camp. What was the next one you went in? Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, all right, I got you. I got you. Okay, so I get out after the boot cam, right? So I got sentenced to four years.

I got sentenced to four years prison, two years paper. Because whenever you do a youthful offender, you got to have six year sentence, all right? So I got, I did about three, three and a half years. And I went back. I went back. I violated it. So I got out, started doing drugs. I still had the paper.

with my mom. I violated that. How? Failed a drug test? I think I just stopped going all together. You can't do that. Yeah, no, you got to frown on that. Yeah, you got to, like, report to these people.

And at the time, like, I got out and I went back to, now my mom's had the same house forever, you know what I mean, the trap house. So I got out and went back to that house. You know what I mean? Same stuff with my mom does the same stuff. She's always smoking, so I had no other place to go. And I was a kid. I didn't really know about halfway houses and all.

opportunities and to be honest I wanted to get out and party right you know I mean I still just a kid yeah so I ended up going back there didn't have a stable environment ended up violating and I got re-arrested went back to jail how much what how much what what they give you they well that okay so there's a loophole if you do the boot camp right and you violate with a technical they have to let you off the hook with no probation or not I can't make this up. Yeah, so I ended up getting four years prison, two years paper. I do three and a half years.

I get out. I violate within three, four months. I go back to Landau Lakes County Jail. I sit in there three, four months. I'm getting ready to take the six years because you have to. So if you violate, you get to six years, but they give you all your time serve. Okay. See what I'm saying?

So you got, so if I had four years prison, two years paper, do three and a half years, I do the boot camp, get out. But if I violate, now I get the whole six years prison minus the time that I had served. Okay. All right. But there's a loophole, right? So today I was going to take the six years. I had no choice.

They put me in a cell with some guy. And he's like, bro, you could beat that. I got rid of mine, man. This is all you do. This is all you tell them. I'm like, all right. Yeah. I didn't believe them.

What is that? So it's saying like if you violate with a technical. they can't give you the six years for whatever reason, right? I don't even know the loophole, but so I went there, I told my, I had a public defendant at the time. I'm like, listen, I heard this from a street lawyer because I didn't want to tell him like a, I didn't want to tell him. Right?

So I go there, I'm about to take the six years. I said, bro, listen, just check this out. Check this out before. I heard this from a, you know, I called a lawyer on the streets. He said, he goes, he's like, you're right. He's like, you're right, man. I'm right, right? So it goes back.

Ended up getting everything gone that day. I think I had like a week left. I had like one week walking out. So I went back to jail for like a week. Oh, this is what it was. The reason they didn't let me out, I had charges in Hillsborough County. That's what it was. I can't even remember what the charges were.

It was like something stupid, like driving. Because I was like, I used to be driving cars and I'll take the police on high-speed chases and get away. But when you go to court, they know it's just. So I had some, like, stuff in Hillsborough for, like, driving or something. They end up taking me to court. That was what, that's what it was. That's what the violation was part of.

But the loophole was since the charge wasn't in Pascoe County, it was only a technical violation for not showing up. Right. And then they squashed everything, but I had to go to Hillsborough County. So I was off probation, off prison that day in a courtroom after there was, I was supposed to take six years. Right. But they picked you up for the charges. They picked me up for the, so I only went there for, like, a reckless driver or something. some so i went there and got 60 days okay with the time served i ended up doing like a couple weeks

or something illy what in uh orient county yeah yeah that's exactly where i was so they let me out of orient right there and i'm free and clear all right okay so what so what you go back to your moms go back to my moms all right what happens say back right right back i'm talking about pull up you know and back people like these dope dealers think they're helping you because they're like man here's like you know a eight ball of bro. I got some work for you right? Yes! I'm going to help you. I'm going to give you some

drugs. They really wanted to help you. They really wanted to help you. They give you a grand to help you. Yeah, their whole thing like but in their sick twist away they really are helping you. Yeah. You know what I mean? He's like, you know, here's an eight ball. Get on your feet, bro. And I'm just like,

I don't even have a shot, man. I'm, I start smoking again. Me and me, hey mom, this is what I got. Let's go. And I'm back off to the races, and so I end up going to prison again after this. I think I got caught with drugs this time, because I got a bunch of drug charges, too. A lot of them are random because, like, when I get caught for something else, I'll have drugs on me.

Right. So this time, I'm not now, in between all these prison terms, I'm not out three, four, five months, maybe, not even sometimes. Like, I'll literally get out of prison. I'll be back in, I'll literally get out and go back, and the same people were there. yeah yeah i would watch guy my sentence you know i did like 13 years so i i've watched guys get out violate come back on a violation for six months get out get a new charge get five years come back do the five years you know they do whatever four maybe three because they get

like a drug program get out on that and then come back again on a violation it was just like i've watched you come and go four fucking times i'm still here sucks yeah that's exactly that's exactly how it is that's exactly how it is so i go back to prison this is when stuff started starting to change though because this third time i go back to prison man um i started like realizing i'm sorry i start reading self-development books right and then my mind starts changing man and uh god's working on me at the same time and i'm just like you know what this ain't this ain't this ain't what i want man this isn't working for me this is horrible you know what i mean and that was like the basic like that third time I went to prison, I started, so I started reading self-development books.

But the only problem was I still had a drug problem. So I'm in prison and I'm smoking, I think I was smoking weed this time, but then they came in with this stuff called K2, which is they call it Tunci in prison. Yeah, that's a synthetic weed. Yeah, now that. Supposedly. Yeah, and that was a freaking game changer right there. So I started smoking Tunci in prison.

That done killed the whole self-development trip right there, man. oh god guys would get it we'd wake up in the middle of the night some guy fucking screaming like he's on fire like but thinks he's on fire like hit himself and rolling around and screaming and we're like what the fuck is going on and then they'd turn on all the lights and the cops would come running you know he'd smoke he'd get a bad batch of k2 right so or whatever it was a good badge yeah i was just didn't have funny you say that because here's what happened people would be he'd be screaming and hollering the cops would come rushes in they grab him they drag him off and as they're dragging him off the guys in the other unit

could hear that this guy was going nuts and they're like oh he smoked his his k2 he probably went in the bathroom that night smoked some of it had a bad reaction that's what happened and they think to themselves that that's the same batch that they got because they know who's what's happening they immediately go in the bathroom and smoke theirs like that's what they're thinking like that's a good shit. And then they spoke it. So in the other unit, as the cops are dragging this guy away, you hear guys in the other unit start flipping

out, screaming and hollering in the other unit. Now the cops have to rush over there. So you got like three guys in two units flipping out because they got what I consider a bad batch, but they consider a good batch. That's some good shit. That's like gas.

Then they bring them back three days later or a month later. It doesn't get. Man, I was fucking amazing. That was like, you're screaming. and like you're on fire. I thought I was on fire. And they're laughing about it. You're like, that's insane. Yeah.

They're ready to smoke it again. That's the good stuff. It was insane. It was like gas. That's what they call that gas, man. And that was the introduction. That was the introduction of Tunchi on that third trip. I remember they had just started bringing it in.

And I'm like, and because we were smoking weed. I always smoke weed. I don't smoke no Tunchy. They're like, no, man, this is way better than weed, man. This is cheaper. You only got to smoke a little crumbs. I'm talking about nothing, like some stuff you just dust off the... And when it first came out, you could just mail it in.

They had no... So it's everywhere. Yeah. It's cheap. They just mail it in. And they dip the corner of a letter or put something and then mail it in. The mailroom has no idea. They don't...

They just give you the mail. And in the letter, they'd say, hey, the lower left-hand corner of this has been dipped in K-2 or whatever. And they'd say, you know, roll it up and smoke it. And you guys are rolling it up and... We call it gooking out. In Florida, they call it gooking. So when someone gets high on Spice or Tuneshire K2, it's all the same, they call it, they start gooking.

And you're like, that's how you know it's gas when they start gooking out. And then they come get the, what do they call it, or twacking. Another one, at least he's twacking out. We had a guy one time stripped naked. Here's what happened. First of all, he's running around the compound. So we're in our unit. we could see out you know the units like there's three units around the compound so but you can see

out the windows so you can see people walking around there's a guy running around the compound with the cops chasing him right and i remember they surrounded him at one point and he's by the he's pulling off he's pulled off his shirt he's he thinks he's on fire or something whatever they surround him and as they close in on him all of a sudden he's he's he's pulls his pants off and he's completely naked the cops I remember the

the circle of cops they were like closing in and all of a sudden they backed up like like he had a weapon and then they kind of

look at each other and then they went woo and they jumped on and pulled him down and they had to drag them off to the shoe I see some stuff I'll teach you man

I've twacked out a few times before I never had no experience like getting naked and I like that but most of the time the guys are just fucked up yeah

they lay down they're like some guys go nuts. Yeah, my brother does, man. My brother goes, so I got that third time I got out, I started smoking Tuncho on the streets. I had met this chick. So prior to all this, man, I haven't met a chick, man. When I went to prison this third time, her name was Leo. When I went to prison this third time, she ended up getting back and connected with me. And she's like, I got this, you know, I got a house and, and this chick is beautiful now. And I'm like,

oh, like I'm set up now for life, you know what I mean? Like, I get out. So my brother's out of prison at this time too. So I get out, meet up with my brother. I'm talking first day I get out of prison. I go to this hot chicks house. She's got everything set up, nice car, everything. I start smoking too. She's gooking out on her bed. Like I'm puking everything for, I mean, but this is street to unciy now. My brother's smoking when I get out. I didn't have no intention of smoking. I get out. I get out and my brother's got it. My brother pulls up on me. He's selling dope at the time He's doing pretty good As far as I Selling dope or whatever Right

And he's got this tunchy And a blunt That's a street-sized blunt Just ain't no little Because in prison You know You smoke Nothing

Like a little A little toothpick Man I pulled up with a blunt Like this I hit the thing Man started gooking out On her

On her bed I'm puking everywhere She didn't know What it was She's a she's a She ain't never ever In the person She's like

What are you on? I'm just Oh Projectile vomiting and like the exorcist all over her house. And that was a, that was like the start of that relationship. No, no, that was that.

That's basically how I led up to go into this prison this, this fourth time. Because I got out, get with this chick, we're in an apartment complex. I'm hanging out with my brother, which is a horrible idea. We're smoking to and she, um, tune she led to, you know, my brother's got connections of drugs. cocaine, but mainly Tunchi. Tucci was like, I did it to Tunchi at that time. Like, and I ended up, there was a neighbor.

We both went to prison for this. Me and my brother, there was a neighbor, and he was, he was selling weed, and he was always hitting on my girl, and I knew he was hitting on my girl, but he would always act cool to me, and I was just like, cool, whatever, and he had a lot of weed. My brother was like, man, I need to get some money. I'm like, look, the dude on the corner sells weed. Right. He's always trying to have sex with my chick.

Go rob his house. He's not home. Yeah. And my brother did that. This is the first time I've never had anything to do with anything when I went to prison. I did not do this. Sounds like you orchestrated a burglary. Not a no.

It's like conspiracy to me. Yeah, definitely conspiracy. Definitely conspiracy. I didn't think he was going to do it. Right. Bro, down the... Man, I come home. I was letting my brother stay with me.

I come back. He's got a bunch of garbage. I'm talking about nothing. Like watches that aren't worth nothing. Like, G-shock. I don't know. I'm like, why did you take all this guy's stuff? He's like, I can't find no weed.

I'm like, bro, you need to get rid of this stuff. So I literally scoop all the stuff up, go down to the dumpster, and throw it away. I don't know none of this, though. The neighbors were watching my brother the whole time. Right. Right. Right? So later on that night.

night, I just hear her doom, doom, doom, do on the door. And I'm like, what is that? And then, boom, my door gets kicked in. Like, or door. This poor shit. She wasn't even there at the time. She was, like, she was visiting her, like, dead air or something. Like, her aunt was going to die or something.

She had to get on a flight. And my brother wasn't even allowed to be there. She's like, you ain't hanging out with your brother? And so she left. I called my brother, oh, we're smoking Tunchi. We're actually smoking Tunci in the room at the time when the police kicked in or However, they did it, I don't even know. All I know, I heard, boom, one, boom, boom.

And then, boom. And you can see under the, like, there's, like, cracking the door. You can see, like, lights, like, just shining them on the door. Right. I opened the door, and there's got, like, get on the freaking ground now. I'm like, oh, crap, you know, I get on the ground, right? They're like, you know, we have, um, we have cause, you know, that there's neighbors, senior brother breaking his house and all that and the other stuff. And they're like, we just want you to tell on them.

You know, they didn't say it like that. Right, right. They're like, hey, you know, all you got to do is just, just go on, tell all the, man, you're good. We know you didn't do it. And I wouldn't, I wouldn't do it. So they gave me a charge for, like, an accomplice for the crime. They said I was like a lookout. So what did your brother say?

I don't know what's going on. Yeah, my brother didn't say, my brother ended up beating the charge. Like, he went, he did like. He beat the charge and you went to jail? No, he got locked up. My brother went and got like a year and a day. It was like something like, like, I was totally absurd. I get four years.

But the only reason I get four years, right, at the time, this is the last time I get out. Because I already knew I qualify for VCC. What's that? Violent career criminal, because burglars consider violent. Right. Show, which is serious habitual offender. Then you have, there's a whole slew of these things that they do in Florida.

Right. PR, prison release, C, reoffender. VCC, violent career criminal, show serious habitual. And they, like, like, they literally will just give you all these stuff, all this. They just stack them? Yeah. And so you're just, you're dead. You're overweight.

Like, there's, you're just a rap. You get out of prison of Florida and you mess up and you catch any one of these charges on here, you're done. You're done. Repeat, reoffender, all this stuff. So I ended up going to a bond hearing. Right. Right. And I was like, at the bond hearing, I'm like, how much you guys are offering?

Right. Like, we don't even got your discovery. Yeah. I said, you go ask the freaking guy how much they're offering. He comes back, he's like, we could get you the bottom of the line, which is like four years. It was like 43 months or something. I said, I'll take it. He's like, you're going to take it?

I ain't even been in jail a month or not because I already know what time it is. Right. Even if I possibly could have beat it, what is the chances you? I've been to trial. I've been to trial. The last time, I forgot that even, last time I went to go get out, they had hit me for armed robbery. So they offered you 43 months, and you knew there was, you couldn't go to trial. You couldn't, you couldn't go to trial.

There's no way you're going to beat it at trial. no okay no I mean I could have been I did I literally like don't feel like I did anything other than tell my brother I mean that's probably part of the crime like telling your brother to go do it yeah but I wasn't like what they were what they had written on this thing was not they were like he was a lookout he wasn't even there like I literally just came home and my brother I really did it he took he took a freaking screwdriver stuck in the dude's door and just popped the dude's door open and took a bunch of nothing right yeah what you threw out I literally threw it out yeah and So the cops were basically like, look, if you don't tell on your brother, we're taking you with. So I didn't tell him my brother. I went to jail. I thought, honestly, I thought I was going to beat it. But then, you know, stuff got the public defenders. And they're like, oh, you know, it looks bad on paper.

You know, I'm a lookout. They kick in the door of my house. They seen my brother go in my house. My brother's not saying nothing. Right. You know what I mean? And so I went to a bond hearing and I took the 43. I just was like, I knew I needed to just, I was sweat.

And I'd rather have four years than facing a life sentence on a roll of a dice. Right. Because I've been to trial before. Right. And I know that like, you know, it's not, so whoever lies the best. Right. Yeah. The truth is not even about the truth.

It's that trial. Whoever got the best lawyer and whoever could tell the best lie. Right. You know, and I just went and took the 43. three months. So where, where'd you go? This time,

first, you know, they send you to Orlando, which is a central Florida reception center. Right.

And then you go from the Florida, central Florida receptioner, I went to Franklin Correctional in Franklin County

and the Panhandle. Okay. All right. And I did about three years there at Franklin, C.I. But this time

was different. So, you know, the prior time I went to prison, I started reading the self-development and all this

other stuff and this time I was like I was done I'm like you know this is it I'm not gonna do the same stuff I'm gonna take these four that's why I was kind of like not happy to take the four years but it was like a relief I'm like I'm gonna take these four years I'm gonna work on myself right I'm not gonna not gonna watch TV ain't gonna do nothing all I'm gonna do is work out read exercise right that's it I'm gonna take every single program I could and that's what I did. So I get to Franklin, start exercising, start working out, reading, and I didn't watch TV or nothing for three and a half years. What are you reading? Any self-development book I could get my hands on. Seven Habits are highly effective people. It's something that sticks out

to me. I've read it three or four times. I've actually wrote a whole notebook on that. That was a big book that stuck out to me um napoleon hills think and grow rich right fire fire um trying to think i was reading 48 laws of power uh 48 laws of power although i didn't 48 laws wasn't like a big hit for me because it had all those most notes in the margins right and it was just like it like it's just annoying to me because you're like you're like trying to read this and then you're reading the thoughts and the i don't know um i let i read it i read it a lot of John Maxwell. Okay.

Thank, man. Just basically, I mean, you name a self-development book. I probably read it, honestly. I just, like, ate them up. What was your, did you have, like, a game plan in there? So a game plan as far as prison. So what I did is when I went in there, nobody was sending me money. So I got married.

The last time I, that chick down when I was in prison, I ended up marrying her before I got, up this fourth time. The one that you were in her house. Yes. All right. So I got married to her, right? In prison or prior to prison? You got married prior to prison.

No, so this is what happened. So the, when I got, when I got arrested, all right? She bonded me. When I got arrested with my brother, she bonded me out. Right. All right. And I was only out for like two weeks, right? We got it.

So she bonded me out. we have no place to live because the apartment kicked her out the place because my brother cops are kicking and yeah yeah yeah i get that understand why so she got a big dude all right so so i go to jail she bonds me out right um i'm like a baby i'm a changed man it's gonna be different this time and it really was though i honestly man i had a while i was in county jailed us two weeks man i had a life changing experience with Jesus, man. I went to a, I was going to meet my brother at a church service. Right. You know, because the different dorms got to go to the same church service. Yeah, yeah. And the guy just, I went in there and boom, just radically. I'm just changed,

man. And like, my whole mind flipped. So I'm like, baby, I'm different now. I'm like, I got Jesus. I'm like, you need to bond me out. Right. But I was serious. And so she did. She bonded me I immediately went to church, right? And these people put us up in a hotel for a couple weeks. The church did. And it was actually the same church guy that the service I went to. So I was going to service in county jail for a couple weeks. And then I got out and I hooked up with the pastor that was going into the jail.

And he puts us up in a hotel room, all that. Well, we get in an argument, me and her, you know what I mean? Because I did freaking Xanax when I wasn't supposed to, man. That's exactly what happened. I went to see my mom. It was the last time I seen my mom because my mom died when I was in prison this last time. I'm sorry. It's all right.

But like, so does. It was last time I seen my mom. And we knew we shouldn't go over there. We're like, we're going to go over there anyways. It's still a trap. Still a nice trap house, you know. But this time she lives in Tampa, right? So we drove to Tampa.

She's got a whole bottle of Xanax. We looked at each other as that we shouldn't do this. We literally did like verbatim. We're like, we should not do this. Let's do it anyways. ate some Xanax. got a huge fight. Someone called the cops.

I left. Cops called me. They're like, you need to come back here and talk to us. And I'm like, no, I'm going to just arrest me. They're like,

no, we're not. I promise. No, you're going to arrest me. I'm good. I ended up turning myself in the next morning

because I wanted to get a bond because I was already on bond. Right. And if you turn yourself in, then you know, I was like, okay, let me just do the right thing.

Because, you know, I am trying to do the right thing at this time. I wasn't smoking to do and cheer and none of that stuff. And my life had really changed. I just got caught slipping with my mom. They don't let me out, right?

Right. Revoked my bond. So that's when I went to the bond hearing again. I was trying to like get another bond. Yeah. Right? Maybe like a couple weeks later, I had to put in for nothing. And that's when I took the 43 months.

43 months. But she said you got married. Oh yeah, yeah. So, boom. So I get out. All right, I get out of Canada. And those two weeks I was out, me and her got married. I want to honor God.

So I'm like, you know, she's really. really great girl. We just don't really mix like that. And she's hot, you know, but we're just not a, it's just not a good mix, right? And so we get married. The pastor marries us from the, from the jail. The jail pastor marries us. We're in a nice hotel room, puts us up at like the Hilton Inn or whatever. I mean, we're doing, we're doing good as far as, you know, but we're homeless. Stuff's bad, but we're like on the right path. Right. So boom, I go back to jail. All right. I go to the bond hearing. She doesn't know him to take the 43 months. I don't know either. Nobody knows.

She thinks we're going to beat the charge because I didn't do nothing. Like, it's literally like a conspiracy. Like, you'll see on, like, the report, it'll say, um, conspiracies, conspiring. It was like the stupidest charge ever, right? I go to the bond here and she thinks I'm going to get a bond, right? Because I turn myself in. And then the charge got dropped with her for the, for the domestic. Right.

They never picked anything up. So literally I'm just in jail on no charge. If someone called the cops, I turn myself in the next morning. revoked my bond. I go to the second bond hearing and they're like, no, you're not getting a bond. So I was like, well, what are you offering? You know, I just want to sue. I didn't even know because I haven't got my discovery or not. I don't know what my points are or nothing at this time. Right. I get in there like 43 months. I said, I'll take it. I'm like, what? I said, I'll take it right now. They're like, I'm like, I'm like, bro, go over there. I'm telling my, go over there. Get the

freaking paperwork and bring it back. I'm going to sign it right now. I'll go right now. And he's like, we don't even got your stuff like just do this one I'm telling you because I don't want to tell him they're on cahoots man right you know last thing I'm I'm I'm I'm show cap and I'm I literally could have ran down a list of all those things I was on there I'm like no no let's just do the 43 months um so I saw I come back tell my wife my then wife a time name's Leah she freaking freaks out she's like oh my god you what you took for you're gonna beat the charge now you're not getting out I'm like no not getting out I'm like all right So boom, go to prison on some self-development stuff this time, right?

Because I'm like, look, baby, I'm like, I'm going to just go, I'm going to study, I'm going to write business plans, I'm going to exercise, I'm going to come out swole. And I really did all this stuff. Like, man, I did everything I said I was going to do. She just wasn't a believer at a time, and I don't blame her. Right. You know what I mean? And so I get the prison. I go to call her, and I get a do-do-do-do-do.

I'm like, no, I get, man, straight disconnected on me. I get a letter. she's like she's like I'm with your boss I'm not even joking I can't even make this oh I can't even make this it's like a movie man she's with she so prior to this she's on the phone right so I was I was working at an electric company

before I got locked up right all right as much as I could work on whatever I was I would show up I would definitely show try to I mean I might be up for a couple days or whatever but I'll show up right okay so the guy I loved me me, right, dude's name Clark. He knows I'm a good guy.

Just, you know, I got a, I'm freaking crazy, whatever. So the, so he hires her as like, uh, they call it like a girl Friday, which you just, um, you just do everything. Right. Coffee. Whatever you do. Like, whatever we need, you're going to do it, right? And just on the strength, because she didn't have a job. Remember, we're, we're in the hotel, homeless, uh, whatever. So he hires her because he likes me, right? He's like, this is going to help, this is going to benefit you. You're in jail. She's got a job. Now, maybe she's could send you money or at least put money on the phone

and all this other stuff, right? So I get to prison, I get to do-do-do, oh, hold on but prior to this, though, we're talking on the phone and she keeps talking about my boss. And I'm like, it's weird. I'm like, she's like, oh, he's so great. It was just a little, it was a little.

I'm like, what are you like, screwing him or something? No, why would you try him like that? So I get to print. Once she found out I had the 43 months. Yeah. Get to prison. oh like going through reception it's winter time you don't they don't give you nothing you don't have no sweat or nothing in reception um when you get to prison so you get like a little jacket it's probably like the same material this is and you're like literally like you're you're a worst time i'm probably like one of worst times i went through to my life and no phone no nothing but the do do do so anyways i finally get to my main camp on matt franklin i got a letter hey i'm with your boss we're getting divorced i'm like okay you know right right okay like I can't even I can't even say nothing all right you know and I was left on my own

in prison that was it no help no more and I was feeling pretty sorry for myself yeah I'll just like you know like God why would you do this to me I gave my life to you and for all the two weeks I was solid for two weeks straight except for this annex issue like the domestic phone The domestic violence call. Other than that, there was a good solid six days. I did good. I did good. And so that's how, so I was feeling sorry for myself.

And I got to throw this in there because this is an integral part of the story right here. So when I get to prison, a guy hands me a magazine, all right? And it's a victorious living magazine. And if anybody's been in a prison, they're circulated to like two, three thousand prisons within the nation. It's a huge prison magazine. It's a Christian-based magazine, but it has, like, stories of faith in it whatever. And they're like, this guy, Corey, in this magazine, he was just in this prison. He's getting out.

He's a pastor of a church, got a beautiful wife. He's doing all these great things. And he just left this prison. And I picked up the magazine, and I'm just like, oh, I'm going to meet this guy. I'm going to get out and get with this guy right here. And I closed the magazine and I just forgot that. So then as we're going, I had like this revelation. like I was feeling so sorry for myself

and my wife left me and everything and like I didn't have nobody because you know I was just like you know what I'm gonna just take responsibility for my self and my life I say you know what I'm here because it's never had occurred to me before

it was like a new concept I said you know what I put myself here and it was like once I did that it was like some opened up inside of me I'm like holy stuff man like I put myself in nobody's fault by my own

and like all the self-development books just like came back like that once bam and i'm like dude i can't keep blaming it so you know what i don't need nothing for nobody that's the day my life changed right there um i had was smoking cigarettes when i was first came in there i threw the cigarettes way i didn't smoke no more cigarettes or nothing that i'm like i'm going hard that's it i started working out i'm talking about and i just just kept to the script man every day just working out and then i decided like okay i need to get some money so how do i get some money so how do i get some money. I'm like, I'm going to start selling coffee. So we ain't got me a bag of coffee,

bombed it up, made 15 bombs. The bombs is like where you take the little, um, kitchen glove fingers. So you'll, you'll get the glove from the kitchen, which is a plastic, it's not a vinyl or a latex, put the coffee in there. And I made one bag of coffee and the 15 bombs. You get 15 soups. You get a soup of piece. And a bag of coffee costs 10. So then I just kept doing it and doing it doing it and then like next thing you know i'm exercising i got like seven eight nine lockers full of food like like just like for you guys been frankly i have like huge store i had thousands and thousands thousands of canteen i'm sending money to my baby mama i got you know i'm sending money baby mama not because i like or whatever for my son for like christmas and

stuff like that that i don't like my baby mom just if you're watching but uh um yeah so like you never even mentioned that uh you've gotten somebody pregnant? Yeah, so while... Yeah, so while all this ripping and running is going on, about three prison sentences ago, I met this

chick who was actually like a co-defendant, not a co-defendant as a prison, but like we used to like trap together and stuff like that. His sister and I met her, we were together for like a month and I go to jail, prison, whatever.

And I get a phone call or, well, no, a letter. Yeah, probably a letter. Like, hey, I'm pregnant, whatever. I'm like, oh, man. So I called there. She's like, what do you want me to do? I said, well, have the kid, you know, I'm not, you know, I don't want you to abort the kid. That's, you know, whatever.

And so she's like, all right. So, but all this time, though, I'm not taking care of my kid now. Right. No, there's no interaction, nothing. So, you know, fast forward seven, eight years. going through all this, I go to prison this last time, all right? And I'm doing good, self-development, exercising, got the store going on. I circled the whole compound with food, had a great job at laundry, whatever. I'm just like, I started doing Toastmasters,

ended up becoming a competent communicator or Braun. I don't know. I got all these toastmasters certificates and all this other stuff. And I would take every, literally take every program that I possibly could go while I was in prison. Do you know what Toastmasters is? It's a program that it's a group that helps you learn how to be a better communicator and a better public speaker. They have them in prisons. I'm sure they have them outside prison. No, they do.

They do. They do. But Toastmasters helped me out a lot, man. I did about 20 or 30 speeches or something. I was actually the president of club and everything. You got to stand up there in front of everybody, especially in prison too. Everybody just looking at you. So, all right, so I didn't take care of my kid this whole time, right?

So this time, this last time I'm in prison was the time everything changed. I'm totally working on myself, self-development, writing business plans. I wrote, I had a business plan for, I want to do a start a car wash when I get out or like a detail in business because everything was like low-cost startup. I knew I didn't have nothing when I got out. Right. You know what I mean? And so that's, so prior to me getting out, the mother of my child lost the kid to DCF due to an abusive relationship.

Okay. The guy she was with was beaten on her and DCF got involved and then she got back with the guy. They removed your son from the household for his safety? Yes, for his safety. It wasn't like she didn't. He didn't do his beating on, but she went and got back with the idiot. Right. Whatever, you know, and so DCF took the kid.

This happened about two weeks before I got out of prison. Okay. and I seen it as an opportunity because this whole time she had put me in child support and everything while I was in prison, right? But I wasn't even mad because, you know,

I took the responsibility for myself and I was like, man, my son don't, you know, I don't really know my son, but he don't need that. Like, he don't need that in his life. You know, that's not that's wrong. So I was like, whatever I got to do, I'm going to do it.

If I got to pay child support, whatever, I already made that. I'm like, boom. That's why I started sending him money and stuff while I was in prison from the store. And get out, or I go to get out two weeks prior he gets

taken in the custody. I see it as an opportunity, but not only an opportunity, but like a duty. I said, I got to get my, I got to get my son out of foster care. Right. I've never had a dad. Like, I don't even know anything about this, but all I know is I got to do whatever I got to do to get him out.

Right. So I get out, right? I put myself into a halfway house, right? Christian Bay's halfway house. They call a fresh start. I just knew that, like, I didn't want to go back to the same environment I was at. I knew that I didn't want to do anything that I did before.

I want to do everything different. I want nothing to say. So I said, well, what can I do to possibly make this change? I got to get out of Newport Richie. I got to go. So I went to the furthest place away, Panama City in the panhandle. Put myself in a halfway house up there. Started working, saving money, paid my license off.

While I'm doing all this, though, oh, like $10,000 to pay. Haskell County for my license. They put me on a payment plan, but I still had to pay like three or four grand. Had to pay Hernandez County, a couple grand, had to pay Hillsborough County, because I'm like catching charges in all these, all these places. Hernando County, I ended up went to smash the cash spot window. I met this chick that worked at this cash spot. It was like where they do like the cash advances.

Right. And she's like, we don't put the money in a safe. She's like, we put in a little black box because everybody wants. wants to rob the safe. So the money's really in a filing cabinet. I'm like, huh, good to know. I said, oh, I said, where's this filing cabinet? And she just told me offhanded.

And, yeah, we went and freaking smash the window this place, man, and got no cash. No. No. I'm talking about we smashed the window. Good. And no money. No money. We got the box and all.

No money in the box. No money. It was like 500 bucks in there. saying it was not worth smashing a window, man. Right. Now you owe for the window. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fregan, um, that's another story. But so we, uh, what's I even talking about?

You were paying, you were paying off all your debts. Oh, yeah. Okay. So, yeah, paying us. So I was paying off all my debts when I got out of prison for, to get my license. They put you on these payment plans, but you still got to pay like X amount of dollars toward whatever. Ode Hernando, a bunch of money for breaking in this cash spot. Ode Pascoe County for a slew. of charges owed Hillsborough County I literally had to drive

from Panama City down here I had to pay someone to drive me down here to pay all these places just to get my license because you got to like do it in person because it's in collections

and they take it out of collections I don't know it's weird how they do it get my license I still don't got a car at the time though I'm literally I got a bike

so this church donated me a bike and I like here you know and I was like you know what but I still had to ever take responsibility. I'm not freaking asking nobody for nothing,

dog. I don't want nothing from nobody. And I got on this bike. And I would ride to these classes sometimes 15 miles. So it would be like eight miles there, eight miles back or seven miles, depending on where I was at, where the class was being held.

And I just like literally got on his bike and just rode everywhere, rode to work. I had a job at a construction. I was making like $15 an hour when I first got out. And basically I just saved the money. It wasn't doing anything.

I mean, I was just working, coming back to the halfway house. What's the halfway house take? I think $150, $200 a week. Oh, that's not bad at all. That's good. Do they feed you? No. Okay.

No, so this is the thing about the halfway house, right? So I had to do a program for two years in prison to do this halfway house, right? And I got out, got this halfway house, and everybody there's doing drugs. Right. I'm like, I'm thinking I'm going to put myself in a different environment. I think it's a, what do they call it, not a dry, but a, yeah, sober-free living type thing. That's what I was thinking. I'm like, I don't want to be around.

I want to be around some different people. I get out, and their first thing to do is, like, if you want chicks in here, bro, you just got to tell us, man, that's fine. He's like, you just got to close the door. I'm like, oh, man, this is. I'm like, what kind of spot is this? Yeah. But this is where that magazine saw, the guy in the magazines named Corey, right? And when I was in prison, the guy handed me a magazine, like, this guy just got out, remember?

right so before I got out though before I got out of prison a guy came to the prison to preach all right before I got out this last time he came to preach and he's like guess who our new pastor is it's Corey now this is years later right and I'm like oh I'm like that's the guy I want to meet right so he had a he has like a church brochure and it's got the address on that so I take the address you don't know I took the address I took the address I get back to the dorm I write him so dude writes me back he's like yeah bro when you get out, whatever. All right.

I'm like, okay, whatever. So we just touch base right there. I have his phone number, though. I get to the sober living facility place, the halfway house. It's going crazy. Like, everybody's doing drugs. There's women. Freaking people think there's snakes in their bed.

Like, they, like, dude, like, woke me. I was like, there's snakes in my bed. And I'm like, bro, like, you're, there's no snakes in your baby. It was just, hi. You know, it was like crazy stuff like that. I'm like, oh, I got to go. Me and Corrid and touch, he says, hey, man, he's like, why don't you? He's like, I'm starting a ministry.

down here in Franklin County. He's like, why don't you come down here and just see what I got going on? He's like, we need, we need, you know, I need somebody around me, a good teammate, whatever. I said, all right, I'll go check it out. So I went down there. He can't pick me up from the halfway house.

I went down there for two days. And I was like, bro, I can't go back there. So he's like, all right, so he ended up meeting some person, a lady and the old man and a lady who rented me their RV, right? They're like, we'll rent you the RV for 150 a week. It's okay. It was a brand new RV.

It was like a Coleman Lantern. I said, okay, that's fine. I left the house. I used to living in a cell, you're going to live anywhere. Yeah, man, I felt like a king, man. I thought I was in that, when I told you, I lived in somebody's spare room. I was like, this is a huge, it's massive.

This is a great fucking spot. Looking back now, it's like, you were living in someone's spare room. I was happy. Dude, happy. Happy, man. Prison change your perspective, man. You know, it makes a lot more grateful for things. Oh, yeah.

For sure. and so I started living in this RV I quit my construction job I just literally like just left that place I went back and got my stuff but I left a lot of stuff there came back I started living in the RV

probably like you know a couple miles away from Corey I got a job doing electric because I you know I got you know electric background right and they were talking to me like crap there and I'm like I just walked out one day

I'm like bro you ain't gonna talk to me bro like just any kind of way you know like I'm a growing man and I left and I didn't know what I was going to do this is like a month into me being down there and say you know what I'm going to start my own business that's all I'm going to do and I started cleaning business and there's like an island down there and I was doing pretty good man and I realized that freaking cleaning sucks I said I don't want to clean it's hard my wife my wife will tell you the worst job she had which was in the halfway house she was a maid at a at a motel and she's like

it's horrible he's like it's one the stuff you're cleaning up the you see it's She says, it's just backbreaking. Hard. I'm tired hard. I'd rather do construction to clean it. Yeah. Unless it's like my stuff. I'm cleaning my stuff.

It's different. But, so I just started cleaning business. And I was like, man, I can't do this, man. This is a freaking, this is bad. This is bad stuff right here, man. I don't want to do this. And I went and got a job as a bus, like a, not a, or whatever you come in, like a greet or at a restaurant.

Okay. All right. I don't know why I did that. Like, I'm just like, bro, I'm going through it at the time. Like, I don't want to, I know I don't want to work. I just let your job for 15 an hour. I don't want to clean. I was making good money cleaning, but, man, it was like, it was a lot, a lot of work.

And then, like, it didn't add up because I'd make, like, two, three hundred hours of cleaning, but it would take me all day. So you're working at, so now you're a receptionist. Yeah, at a restaurant. And I'm just like, and I was like, I've seen these servers. It's a tourist restaurant. And I've seen these servers. and they're making like two, three hundred dollars a day. I'm like, a total lady, you know, I said, I want to do that.

I want to serve. This is the first, like, entry in the sales. I said, I want to serve. She's like, you want to serve? She's like, you can try it out. And I did really phenomenal. I was like one of the best servers there. And so I did that for a couple years, man.

I just stacked money up. And just stayed in the RV the whole time. Oh, so no. So, look, so once I got that job at the restaurant, I ended up getting full custody of my son. Okay. All right. I kept doing the classes. drug test, whatever they wanted.

They ended up awarding custody to me for my son. So me and him are living in an RV now. Okay. All right, but I got them. I don't even care. Like, this is temporary. I already know what the plans are. You know, we're good.

And so, yeah, so we're living in the RV. I end up... How was that with your son? Just wondering, like, he doesn't really know you. Right? No, no, he doesn't. But what the thing that they made you do, With the parenting plan or whatever, like to do the case plan to get your son back, you had to have, like, consistent visits with him.

Okay. All right. Now, I'm living six hours away from him at the time. He's out of foster care. He's actually at my ex-wife's. So the chick that left me for the boss, she is okay with my baby mama. But when my baby mama lost the kid, she came and picked him up. Okay. So he's not in foster care?

He's in foster care, but not foster care. He's with my ex-wife. Okay, so he's with her and foster care is like managing? Like they pay her to keep him? Yes, yes, exactly. So you're able to go there and visit with him? No, because the husband is my boss. Oh, okay. He doesn't want her to have nothing to do with me.

Okay. But so it's frigging twisted. So, but they make you do like, they make you do visits where they drop them off. Like sponsored. I mean, I'm not sponsored. I'm sorry. What do they call it? Where it's, you have like somebody from.

foster care who's there to monitor monitored what's the word I'm looking for chaperone monitored it's monitored by so someone so somebody from foster care somebody from DSS at least it initially because then you could start getting unsupervised widow supervised supervised that's what I'm trying to say yes but you would go in like a room and there'd be like a person just standing there yeah with the kid like weird but uh I did whatever I had to I didn't care and um so was he receptive to you did he like like how did that how's that physical cut he is a seven or eight i've had him almost three years now so he's about seven years old at the time because he's just turned 10 like you walk in and you say i'm i'm your dad and he's just like you know it was he like hey you know

yeah it was it was kind of it was kind of strange it was kind of strange um probably for him it was a little awkward at first you know but um i had been buying him stuff in prison you know what i mean Like, and so the mom was like, So he knows of you. Yeah, so it wasn't like I was like a complete stranger, but us living together was definitely a culture shy. I remember the first day he got here because the RV had two separate beds. And he was like, okay, that's your bed, buddy, you know, because I set it up.

What I did is it had like a, you know, it had like the two bunks on the RV. And I pulled out the bottom and made him a little room underneath because he's so short. So I pulled out the bottom bunk part. And then it was just like a basically empty room. And I put little tables in there and toys in there for him. stuff like that. I made him like a little room out of the RV. And the first night, he was in there. Um, he went up on a little bed or whatever. I had to buy him a ladder to get up on there. And I was like, uh, he just kept looking at me. Like, he was like crying. I could tell

I'm like, what's up, buddy, you want to come sleep with me? He's like, no, no, no. And then he's like, all right. And he's like, all right. And he's been sleeping with me ever soon. He still sleeps with me right now. He just, he just sleeps with my bed. I mean, I don't care, whatever. But, um, he ain't going to be little for long, you know. Right. It's going to come in time. He ain't going to want to even. Yeah, yeah. you'll just be a teenager he'll be like

you don't know anything so it was definitely a culture shot for him and for me especially never had a I've never had a dad right but that might be a good thing

because like I'm not having been preconceived haven't been conditioned for any kind of that's why I think I'm so smart because I never went to school

I'm being for real I thought about it I think I'm a great dad because I never had a dad and there's nothing to you know put anything on me I don't know

I'm just making it up as I go and the same of school, never been to school as far as, you know, after sixth grade, that was it. And I think that's really what helped me out a lot, man. Okay. And so I moved to the, all right, so me and him get,

so I'm like, the owner of the RV tells me he's got to sell the RV randomly. He's just like, hey, I got, I just sold the RV. He's like, you got 30 days to get out of here. I'm like, what the heck? And at the place I'm living at is a tourist place. You can't just get a house or an apartment. It's not like that. It's a small town, and it's next to an island.

All the houses are mansions or they're owned by a small group of people. It's damn near impossible to find a place to live. But I just did, like I say, I was just a numbers game. The more people I talk to, the more chances I get. So I just went on Facebook and just blast everybody who had a place. and they'd want you to fill out an application fee and I'll just be like, listen, I got to talk to you first. Yeah.

I'm like, look, I'm a felon. I'm a single father. I got a good job. I make a couple hundred dollars a day at a restaurant, you know. This is what it is. And 99% of them were like, no, we're okay. And then I found the one guy. It was like, yeah, he's like, I'll give you a shot.

All right. And then so I moved to it. It was a trailer, though. It was like a single-wide trailer. It was old, super old, but it was clean. It wasn't like... It was just old. It wasn't like it was dirty or not like that.

And me and him moved in there, and I felt like a king. Right. And I was like, you know what I mean? Just progression. Progression. I bought me a Cadillac, Cadillac DeVille for like a couple grand. Older car was like 1999, but I loved it. And then just kept progressing right there.

The owner of the trailer, after I lived there for a year came to me. He's like, hey, man, I'm selling the trailer. He got 30 days I'm like What the heck After I signed a lease For the second year So it was a year up

I signed a lease For a second year But in the lease There's a clause That says that he can sell You gotta just give me a 30 days 30 day notice

And he could sell at any time And I was like Okay So Went back at it Trying to find a place This time I couldn't Find a place

The owner of the restaurant Her name's Andrea She's like I have two friends They have a beach condo she's like, you could stay there for 60 days until you find a place at a, it's like a million-dollar beach condo. Jesus. And like, okay.

So we went there, had Christmas there. He said, I could use this. Yeah, it was a beautiful, a beautiful place. Three stories, I'm talking about it. Beautiful. It was all furniture out. And yeah, it was really nice. And so we stayed there.

I didn't even stay there to two months because I just kept, I just get grinding and ended up finding an apartment that was going to give me a shot. I had to do a testimony. Like I had police writing me because in that small town like they because while I'm living there, I'm going into the county jail with the guy Corey because he has a huge prison ministry. Right. So he goes into prison and I go in with him. I actually got kicked out of the prisons recently, but that's a different story. And I, so while we're going in, okay, so I'm in the condo.

I'm going into jail. I get the apartment. They want like this all kinds of stuff. They're like, so I gave like a, basically I told him my testimony. I had cops writing me, the sheriff writing me referrals and cops and, you name it. And they let me in there, beautiful brand new apartment. All right. So now I'm an apartment.

Now I got it going on, right? So I got two bedroom, two bath. Three bedroom, two bath. Okay, nice. Yeah, brand new. My son, I don't know why I got the three bedroom. bedroom. I was, I don't know. I was like, now that I think about, I probably could have saved a lot of body, but I was just like, three it. She's like, you want the two bedrooms? One of three,

just run it. And, uh, we're just, just, just so I'm at the apartment. And, um, I got me a Chrysler 300. So now I'm riding clean. Got me a Chrysler 300. Look brand new. I think it was a 2012. They're like brand new. Um, I'm just grinding. This is where I start learning about the credit. So, So I started my TikTok the whole time I started my TikTok because when I was in prison, I wrote all these stuff down I was going to do. And I'm like, I want to document my journey. It was never to get like followers or cloud or anything like that. All I want to do is I want to document from me getting out to when I'm multi, multi-millionaire and be like, look, it's all on.

It's all on tape. So that's what I started doing when I got out of prison. I started getting on social media and just documented it. But, you know, I've been on there a couple years. so but this time I'm learning about the credit right right and I was like you know what let me freaking let me try some of this stuff they're talking about and I started going

in the banks I'm just talking to the people and I'm like can I get alone? They're like no you can't get alone I'm like well what do I need? They're like well you need this this this this this this I'm like okay and I just write it down I'm writing the stuff down and then I would come back with that they asked for right and boom getting 15 bands $15,000.

I'm like, oh, crap. And then another $5,000, another $7,000 just started. And so I'm like, I'm going to take this money and I'm going to invest in a car dealership. How's that go? Dude, I took this money. I literally, I remember one time, bro, I had like $12,000 or $13,000 in cash. I went and got a, went and rented a building, went and got signs. Because in Florida, you got to have like a brick and mortar place to own a car dealership.

Right. And before you even get approved for the car. dealership. You have to have all this X amount of stuff. You've got to have X amount of square feet with a bathroom in the office. And you've got to have five parking spaces with the sign and the sign's got to be this far away. And you've got to have handicapped.

I went and just blew all this money on everything about cars. Right. So I got a beautiful office, 1,500 square foot office building. I got these signs, everything. And I was just like, they denied my freaking license for the for the car dealership.

Like, you're a felon. I'm like, but I knew some, the reason I did it, though, I knew someone who had felonies who had done it. Right. I know him personally. And my whole, so just like,

the whole point, he said he was going to give me his cars. Right. All right, because the town I lived in had no car dealerships for hours anywhere. And he was the next car dealership.

So I said, I'm going to get the spot. Right. All right. I'm just going to get your cars. I'm going to put him here. And I'm going, I'm going to sell them and take, take a margin off everything I sell.

It's like you're expanding your dealership to two spots. Right. And he was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's an awesome idea. And then you just never answered the phone again, bro. And so I went broke. Yeah, I went broke. How long ago was that?

About a year ago. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I had the transition. I had the transition, man. Friggin was down on my low, man. I was probably the lowest time. ever been in my life because not only am I broke I owe all this money for the loans right and um I just

went to so I I tried to transition to a tattoo shop and this stuff's all on my ticot I like you literally watch every single one of these videos like from everything I'm telling he's like on there because if it was a significant moment I actually put it on there because I want to like record it and um so I'm like I'm like I'm gonna you know what I'm just turn into a tattoo shop and I went there and I'm like hey man I want to turn this into a tattoo I tell the guy he's like no you can't turn into tattoo shop he's like I don't want those type of people here I'm like, okay. I'm like, all right.

I went back to the drawing board. I had a, who had a thrift store. She's like, well, I use it for a thrift store. We'll just expand. I'm like, she's like, I'll just pay you rent because I was going to sub lease it. I said, all right. So I went back to the guy. I'm like, hey, you can't sub lease.

Well, no, it was nothing in the thing. I didn't even tell him I was going to sub lease. I said, hey, I want to start a thrift store. He's like, no, I said, bro. I'm like, look, I can't pay you no money. You can't let me do nothing, bro. I'm like, I'm done. I don't care about the lease, bro.

Like, I mean, I signed in my company name. I'm like, what are you going to do, bro? I've already, just keep the deposit. He kept like $3,200 or something. Yeah, and I said, just keep it. I'm good. And then I was like, really, really, really broke. And then I went home and cried, man.

I was just like, I don't know what I'm going to do. Plus, I got my kid, right? I quit the job at the restaurant. Yeah. And so I started a handyman company. and I started doing because I did that for like a week and I said oh hell no

my back was hurting and everything I had some jobs because you gotta remember like I'm in a small time I know so anything I do like the people are supporting me so immediately I get some jobs and I went back to do them like

I can't do this man I said this hurts I got like this like I'm like hurting like I went to work one day man it's like we were putting these beams up like I'm done man I'll figure something else out and um and so like so i end up getting another loan right and um so i'm paying my rent with it and

all this other stuff so i got like a little bit of money left um not much maybe maybe like two grand off this long i got left and i don't know what i'm doing so i'm scrolling but i'm doing ticot at the same time i'm on ticot live i'm going hard like i'm putting the media out putting the social media out because i know that like i know that if i could get seen by enough people man something's going to happen. Right. I don't know what's going to happen, but something's going to happen.

And all I really want to do is just help somebody, so maybe I don't know. And I just believe, like, if I just put the help out, like, if someone, I help enough people, bro, someone will help me,

you know what I mean? And so I'm scrolling through TikTok. There's this thing called RiseCon, right, in Tampa last year, June 16th, I think. And the tickets are $1,200. And I don't even know what I was doing, man.

Frigg Ross is all there, Grant Cardone, Dave, I seen David Goggins. I'm like, oh, I'm going. And as I'm scrolling, the dude calls me from the RiseCon, like, because I guess, like, however they got the funnel set up. Yeah.

I click on it. He's like, I'm like, hello? He's like, well, are you ready to go to RiseCon? I'm like, what? I'm like, bro. He's like, um, you know, boom, boom. He's like, I'll give you the tickets were $1,600 bucks. He said, I'll give you, uh, the gold pass for like $1,200. And you

get to, um, like, eat lunch with all these people, whatever. and something inside of me just said do it and I said I ain't got nothing to lose I said someone I got to get around some millionaires I said all right and all I knew I said I just need to get around some people man

and I said all right and I went and I bought the ticket I'm down to zero dollars now basically like rents paid zero dollars I drive out to Tampa on a hope and a dream day three a rise con it's or no day two

arise con I'm there I'm sitting in the front um this guy gets on stage and he's like I just did $120 million in revenue later or net net not in the revenue I did $120 million net last year

with his freight broker transportation company he's like I've been in prison he's like I got out 10 years ago I started his company he's like now we hire felons and I jumped up I'm a felon I don't know it's on camera like I literally

like jumped up like there was like there was like freaking $1,000 $2,000 3,000 this is at a conference man and the lady comes over with the microphone I'm like bro I'm like I'm coming apart for you right and everybody thought I was freaking crazy brother the dude texted me like oh yeah like laughing

I think it was funny and I waited for the dude bro I waited for him bro I came back the next day and I waited for him and I seen him and he was like talking to somebody because like they kind of like mill around I mean probably like not Grant Cardone and David Goggins but he wasn't like a A list celebrity or nothing I mean he was just

he was just there and I find seen him and I pulled up on it. I said, look, man, I'm coming. I'm coming, man. I'm coming to work for you. I said, I'll be an asset to your company. And I don't even know what he does. I don't even know nothing about transportation, none. I don't know. I didn't even know what I said. I'm coming, bro. He's like, he's like, where do you live? Like, I live six hours away. I said, but I'm moving to Tampa. He says, you move to Tampa. I'll give you a shot. And this is how I knew was real, though, because his company, he was worked there. And all these dudes got really nice cars. They're all from prison. You got people

making half a million dollars a year. You got out, just got out of the chain gang. So I knew I could do it. I waited for him. Called him. He said, come to Tampa. That was on Sunday. Tuesday, I called him. I said, I'm in Tampa, bro. I literally went home. Sold everything in my house. But sold everything.

Except my son's room. It kept my son's room, whatever he had, because that's my most important thing, man. Make sure my son's straight. Sold everything. So the guys like, well, you could pay out of your lease. So you got to pay a month and then a month to break the lease. That wouldn't be accounted for, whatever. So I paid them the month, right? Right. All right. Because you

could break your lease there at the department. I didn't know this. I didn't know how it was going to do it. But I went back and said, I wanted out of my lease, I'm moving to Tampa. He's like, okay, well, you pay a month. And then on the next month, you pay like an extra month. And then the, I don't know how they did it. End it'll be like three grand, but I didn't have to pay. I only had to pay like a grand at first. So I sold everything, paid the dude to grand, drove to Tampa and he had no place to stay which was me and my son

there's a chick named Julia which is my brother the mother of my brother's child right and like I need a place to stay for a couple days so I figure some out I just know I had to get to Tampa

and she's like you can stay here so I go there and her house wasn't all that and I'm like oh this is not a good spot for me right man and I didn't know what I was going to do

and my grandmother out of nowhere she's like you could come stay here. She's like, you're staying in jewelry. You could come stay here. So I did that. I start staying there and I start going to work at the job. They put you in like training. So you get the six weeks of training. All right. And you make, they give you $600 a week for six weeks. And then that's it. Right. But I don't know none about, I didn't even know this with sales. Right. So when I get there, they're like, oh, you got a cold call people. I'm like, what the hell is this?

Like cold calls. Like, no, yeah, you got to like, we're going to give you a bunch of. We're going to give you a bunch of numbers you call them and you make a sale and i'm like okay like bro and i for oh my god i went through it so for like four months i didn't make any money i just was going down down down down bad and i you know i never thought to ask like what the job was or whatever i mean and uh so i was in a really dark place uh and then i got a really bad car accident right when i got down there when I started like everything was going down I'm only making $600 a week that's not even covering gas or no

that's like not covering traffic food nothing I'm talking about like I'm literally just losing money bro I'm maxed down on all my credit cards everything just like you're lifting down fast and I was like I wanted to run

I want to jump shit like what am I going to do I'm like what did I do? What did I do? I'm like oh I messed up this time and then something told me just to go back to the basics Like, what am I doing right now? They're like, well, you stop, you stop listening to audio tapes.

You haven't been self-developing. Get back right. And I say, you know what? I said, I made a commitment. I said, you haven't taken responsibility. I said, you know what? It don't even matter. I said, look, I'm going to go back here.

I remember I packed my stuff up, dude, it was a Friday because I'm the only one in the office. Nobody even goes to the office. Right. You can work from home. Like, I go, you know, it doesn't matter. You're like, work remotely or whatever. And at this time, nobody. somebody's at the office and I'm literally in it no one's training me or not I'm just they just

literally put me in front of the computer like here you go and I'm like hell bad bad bad bad and uh so I came to like several like what am I doing I'm like I stopped doing what I was supposed to be doing and I just I snapped back I started I'm getting all my sales books reading sales books sales audio tapes when the thrift books bought a bunch of books um and I just started studying really hard, man, and I ended up, bam, I started hitting, right? I remember first week I hit $2,500 a week, bam, and then it just started coming in. Like, all of a sudden, dude, it was just like, it went from... What is the job?

So I do. So I transport heavy machinery, all right? So say you have, say you're a construction manager or anybody, right? You know, I transport cars, containers, it doesn't matter. So say you have a huge machine, a cat, it's oversized. So it's like 100,000 pounds. And you're like, hey, man, I need to move this from Pennsylvania to California. All right.

And I'll be like, all right. So, you know, we got to put this on a special type of trailer. You know, you know your trailers. You know the height, dimensions, how much the permits cost, all that. And I'm like, it's going to cost you $25,000. Right. And I put my commission. So, like, really, it's going to cost me $20,000.

And it's going to cost me, it's going to cost you $25,000. And you say, okay. And then I run your credit card. get a wire payment, Zell, pay bail, and I have a trucker show up, load your thing on top of there, and keep it going. Well, I mean, I don't know that. That's logistics more than sales, right?

Like, it's... Yeah, it's definitely logistic. There's just some sales involved. I'm a logistic specialist, yeah, but if you can't close the person, you in a... Yeah, because you're putting your commission on it. There ain't no, like, cap to what you could do. Like, you know, there's people there that make 10, 15,

thousand dollars a day yeah so they're like um but you get a commission of us to get 40 percent right um off not off each load but you get 40 percent off that five grand that difference in between the 20 and the 25 you get the five you get the five you get the five exactly but you'll have multiple loads a day though so it won't like you make a 10 grand off one league but you ship five things a day you make a thousand dollars a piece you make five grand you're walking home with 25 hundred dollars yeah but i'm going to say 40 percent of five five grand is two thousand you did that once a week that's fucking that's that's in florida 10,000 that's that's eight thousand dollars a month that's in florida that's a lot of money yeah i do i do that

every week that ain't nothing man there's people make it way more than that but but the moral story is like so i didn't i literally did not make no money for four months there right and then i just had like a mindset change and then bam i'm all now i'm putting up a five six seven k weeks every week like it ain't nothing um but that was just digging in finding like you know what i was real what i was really about, man, because I went through a really dark time. I went through that car accident, too, demolished my car. I'm talking about I got a picture on the phone.

I'm talking about demolished. I'm lucky I broke my wrist and my, my, broke my wrist and my ankle. That was Friday. Is that your fault or? Yeah, I believe. I think I fell asleep because I went, because, yeah, I had, because, you know, I had my apartment up there, right, and had my son's room, right? And then in a storage unit when I sold, I was.

stuff my apartment up, up in Panama City, basically. It's Appalachicola, but it's Panama City, Florida. And I had a storage room up there, so I left work on a Friday. This is about a month or two after I was working there. I left work on a Friday to go pick up my son's stuff to get the rest of the stuff out of the storage unit, so I didn't have to pay the next month. And I guess I fell a see. I don't even remember. I just remember driving around the corner. They call it Dead Man's Curve over there. The roads were really windy. And I just was going around the corner, and then someone just, I guess we just, boom. And my car was so bad that I got out the car i didn't believe it was my car like there's your car and i'm like that ain't my car

like that's your car bro like i'm like dude it was they had to cut the seat belt um not when i got out because the dude the dude when i crashed all i know is i woke up and there's a guy telling me to sit in my car he's like stay right there i'm like bro you better get out my freaking way because i'm getting out the damn car there's smoke in there and he was like trying to like get me to just let's sit because maybe if i was hurt i was that bro you're gonna get out the freaking way. I'm getting out this car right now. And thank God nobody was hurt. Nobody was hurt except me. I brought my wrist and my ankle. And that was a Friday. I went back to work on a Monday. Just before I started making money, though. So I'm like...

So it's even worse. As soon as you think you can't get any worse. Even worse. I couldn't even walk and it hurt so bad. Thank God my grandma. She came through again. She snapped me out of it. So I got in the accident. My buddy, Corey, drove me back from there, about a six-hour drive, drove me from like Panama City, or I went to the hospital in Tallahassee. So basically from Tallahassee back to Tampa. And I'm laying there, and I'm about to give up. Like, I'm done. Like, sales suck.

Can't make no money. And my grandma's like, you need to get your butt up. She's like, this is the lad. Worst, this is just saying, you need to get up. I'm like, I ain't got no money. She's like, you need to rent. She's like, I'll rent you a damn car. You just pay me back.

And she's like, get up and freaking went rent in the car. I had it like this. I'm just driving like this, man. And that was a Friday. I was back at work on Monday like it wasn't nothing. And I just, you know, not making no money. And then, you know, eventually I start hitting. I start hitting.

Just like anything, though. You know, that's how entrepreneurship goes. You just keep grinding. It's real dark, real scary. You don't know how you're going to pay anything. And then it's like Jeff Bezos. He talks about it. When you talk about his successes, if you ever listen to him, he'll tell you.

He'll go, oh, they don't ever mention that I lost either three. $300 million opening this company, and they don't mention half a billion dollars I lost opening this one. They don't, like, he can list like a couple billion dollars that he lost opening after he heard of it. Yeah. And when he says the names of them, you're like, oh, I remember that, that app. Like, what happened to that? Oh, I remember when that, whatever did happen to that website or that company or that these are all

companies that Amazon has opened, funneled a ton of money into, and just failed. Failed Every single time And he's like Nobody ever talks about He goes nobody Nobody will ever Remember your failures

He's the only He's like you know Every billionaire out there Has had numerous failures You know What is it I think it's Bezos also that I love that

I think it's his saying Where he says Most overnight successes Take about 10 years Yeah It's a great saying right Grine 10 years To be an overnight success

That's basically That's basically how it works too man I know I know for sure I know for sure I'm on the right track but the but i just kept like documented everything the whole time putting it on ticto put it on ticot facebook and instagram i started i started i crushed uh i crushed uh i crushed facebook i got like

176 000 on there ticot's like a hundred 19 thousand and uh i just 30 day in 30 days i put up 41 000 on on instagram right but you should instagram hard man instagram is tough you don't get a lot of i we don't get like we had one the other day they got like 400 000 but most of Most of mine are like 7,000, 12, 10, consistent. Like they never goes to get very high. And the other day, we had one that got like 400,000. I was like, wow. Yeah.

Never happened. Yeah. Instagram, tough, man. Instagram, tough. And the only reason I got all them, I got like 30,000 followers off one video, hit like 1.5 million or 6 million views. That's what that one of 400,000, like that we must have gotten probably 15,000 followers off that, maybe 20.

It's crazy because your conversion rate for followers to views on Instagram. is way higher than TikTok. So you're looking at like a 1% follower ratio. So if you get 100,000 views, you're looking at 100 followers off that on TikTok. But I got one point, because I've had multiple videos go millions and millions on TikTok, and you don't get that many followers. But Instagram, 1.1.6 million views. I got like 30,000 followers or something crazy, man.

What happened with the trial? Like, why did you, like, tell you, can you tell the story what happened? and then why you went to trial, then what happened to trial? Yeah, so like, let me, let me, so, all right, prior to me getting arrest and going to prison, I was dealing drugs, I was talking to this chick who had a bunch of pills, and I would trade her work or whatever kind of drugs at the time for the pills. And she told me one time that she had, like, 100-something pills at the time. It was oxy-cottons, or, yeah, oxy-cons was a big thing these days or the 80s.

They were green, a big green. Right. And she's like, I got all these pills. I want to trade them. So I call my drug dealer at the time, and I'm like, hey, man, but he lives like two hours away. I'm like, this chick's got all these pills, right? At the time, it's like six in the morning, right? He's got all these pills.

She wants to trade them, all right? He's like, I'm not driving down there for all this. I'm like, bro, listen, she's got $100. These things are like $50, $60 at the time. These things were, like, really expensive at the time. And she's got 120 of them. That's what she's telling me. So he's like, all right, I'll drive down there.

So he drives down there. Chick pulls up. I get in the car. We go to meet the guy. I go to get out the car. She hands me like two pills. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, but she's got a whole bottle.

She's like, I only want to get rid of two. I'm like, listen. I said, listen, my buddy drove down here two hours, right? This is like the big guy. This is like the big guy, right? He didn't even want to do it. I'm like, I promise you she's got him. I said, you need to come off some.

She's like, I'm not coming off anymore. pills you're like i'm not i'm only coming off too she's like i'm like uh all right i said hold on all right i was like hold on so i get out the car i jump on my homewood's car he's like bro i know you didn't you drive me down here um for for this and i was like well hold on i said i got a solution you know i had a gun on me at the time i was like hold on i got a solution for this i like just go drive around to the corner he's like all right he's like so he drives around the corner I get in the car I said listen man you're gonna come off the thing we're gonna trade these to the guy

she's like no I ain't but now she's driving I'm like you're really you're gonna you're gonna trade these to the guy she's like I'm not doing nothing blah blah blah freaking um so I pull out on her I pull the gun out on her and I'm like like look like she slams on the brakes my head hit the windshield whatever right she jumps out the car screaming at the top of of her lungs. Oh my God, he's got a gun. I freak out. I just jump at the car and take off running. That's it. That's what, that's what happened. All right? It's over with. So that's the whole thing. That's it. I go to prison, right? I go to prison. About two years in prison, I'm starting to come up on a release date.

I got a call from detectives. They bring me up to the sergeant comes against me. They bring me up to the, of they're like, hey, you got to, you got to, to arm robbery for this chick and I'm like uh you know like what you mean like yeah you got an armed robbery and I'm like uh I don't know nothing like oh well that's okay you're going to jail anyways so they come and get me from prison now I got two years left um maybe like a year left probably like a year they take me to count of jail I sit in count of jail for a couple years um but here's where the this is where this is where it messed up like instead of her coming to tell the truth she said I'm a stranger right she's She said, I'm a hitchhiker.

I'm walking down the street. She picks a hit chiker up. I pull a gun on her. And she jumps out of the car and all this stuff. She doesn't know me, never seen me a day in her life or nothing. But I've known this chick. Everybody's seen me with the chick and everything, right? So I'm like, that don't even make no sense.

Right. So I got a public defender. I'm like, look. So we got to bring these people in that have seen me with her. And we did. We did like a weak trial. So I took it to trial, right? Because they were going to give me like a life sentence.

They're like, we're not, the least you, they're like, we'll give you 15 years. Like, you could take 15 years or we're going to take it to trial. And I'm like, if I ain't take a 15, you might as well going to give me 30. Like, well, like, 15 is 30 to me, bro. Like, I didn't, if you, you know, at the time, that's what I was thinking. And I took it a trial. So we went and picked a jury, pick six, six jurors. And the only reason I won, though, is because she didn't tell the truth.

She told us, like, I got pictures with the chick. And, like, she was saying that she doesn't know me. And that's where, like, the discrepancy. came in. Right. So if you're lying about this, we can't believe anything you're saying. Anything you're saying. It tore her out to, tore her out the frame. If she would have just said what happened, hey, I was going to, she could have even told him, hey, I had some pills. I was going to trade them. Right. And, you know, this had happened or whatever. You know what I mean? And that's not what happened. She said she completely didn't know me, all this other stuff.

And we ended up beating the trial like that, right? But I had sat in county jail for about two, three years. So I had got sentenced to four years. I did two years. I got sentenced to four years. I did two years in prison and then I ended up sitting in counter for like two and a half years. Went to trial, they put a leg, so what did they do is they put like a leg brace on you. Like, you're in a suit. You can't tell that you're in prison, or in jail, but they can

because you're like walking funny. You got like a leg brace on there. And someone came to court and said that so they had a witness come out of nowhere. And I'm like, what the heck? And the guy's like, no, that's not the guy. He's like, I chased the guy the whole time. So I guess

someone wearing the same clothes, same. name everything. I don't even know. Don't even know who the guy is. The guy came to court said that he chased the guy the guy the car, chase him, and it wasn't me.

And I'm like, no, it wasn't me. That's what I was trying to say the whole time, you know what I mean? And, um... Did, it wasn't anybody you knew? No? Just some guy randomly shows up. At the rate at the end.

Oh, okay. Yeah, dude, it was God. I mean, it was like, it was like, because the guy was saying it was wearing the same clothes, same everything. And he chased the guy all the way and it wasn't me he recognized and it wasn't me and I don't even know this guy

and they literally just were like not guilty and they took the leg brace off um i had a leg brace took the leg brace took the leg braced oh you're free to go and i leave the courthouse i call my friend who sells dope she pulls up like jump in the car she's got a pistol a bunch of dope and she starts making plays with me in the car i'm just driving around sell a dope i'm just in the back She just beat trial. She got a gun and everything in the car. That's how sick it was. Yeah, like, this is multiple times of prison to go, but, and I'm, yeah, and we're running around, and I'm popping Molly.

Yeah, and it was just, it was bad. This is bad. This is bad, but it all came together for good at the end, man. and now I'm able to, you know, making money, making really good money, you know, able to motivate people, like, just to, like, see, like, if you could, if I could come up out of that, like, if I could come out of that, anybody could, anybody could do it, because, no, I probably shouldn't even be here. I appreciate you coming by, appreciate you making the drive.

How long a drive is it? An hour. It's an hour? Okay, that's not bad. No. It's fine. Oh, worth it. Yeah.

Yeah. For real, bro. I'm enjoying this, brother. I feel great, good people and stuff like that. For real, man. I feel, I feel it at home. I appreciate you guys watching. Do me a favor.

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