Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - How Two Men Pulled Off 27 Store Robberies Across Florida | Salt & Pepper Bandits

Episode Date: April 18, 2026

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The 7-11 got robbed. They wanted to get robbed. They don't got us on the news. A black and white guy saw the Pelper team. They booked for 27 counts on our robbery. I regret it then again. I don't regret. I had some damn fun.

Give me a piece of ass. Smoking some... You drave myself. Hey, I was doing good because we're tearing it up, bro. We're tanning up. This way we made all mistake at, though. Me and my cousin, ever. We picked up this on a conscription job.

I did our conscruxion. I remember the name of it. And Billy was my farmer, and he was the bad hole operator. That's how everything kicked, though. Mess with that fool, though. It was Billy's fault. He was a bad influence. No, Billy was a cool dude, man.

Billy was cool, though. Men was in the same activity. You know what I'm saying? Getting high. And every Friday of me, Billy, we used to get off work, man. We'd get off work, bro. And we fought right down to the bridge, man. They go to, we go to, old-down 27, get all stuff, come back, walk under the bridge.

Bill said, dumb, man, they get high. Hey, I told them, they smoke both-all checks, so. Be high, I told them smoke both-for-all chest, so, man. See, one day, Billy's saying. When they were sitting on that bridge, man, Billy say, or, like, mate, that was the sweet day called, Black, play, man. I said, what's up, Billy? Man, I don't know about you, man, but, um,

I need me another hit. I said, I need me one, too. I'm dead broke. I went to the next Friday. But I said, like, hell. She, it wasn't the next Friday. She ate. I said, what's the plan?

And then the Belper Castle right the road, man. Let's go knock it off. The what? Beber Castle. Beaver's Castle? Yeah, it's going to drive through stove. Okay. So this is my first time I really getting in trouble.

Now, I don't have a little trouble, but I know I had nothing this big. You know what I'm saying? Getting trouble like this hill. But anyway, we, um, whenever we, um, we came from underbred. He drove down to the Belkhouse. So he told him to play, see, Billy already had dead time before. He was older than me.

Right. I went up by 18, 19 years old. And, um, he got up there, man, uh, Billy said, I said, what the plan, man? He said, uh, we're going to park on the side. You go, you go through that door, because they had the big garage door that door. He said, you go through that door, and I go through the front door. I said, we'll do that, we'll do that, though. Yeah, we'll do that.

So Beverage Castles are, because not every state has them. No. It's basically a convenience store that you can drive your vehicle through. You drive your vehicle through. And the person, the cashier in there, you don't have to get out of your car. You don't have to get out of your car. They just tell them what you want, and they'll just bring it to you. So I say, I say, okay.

So we ain't had no gun at the time. We didn't have, this the first one we did. We didn't have no weapon, no gun on that. Oh, we had just a little old candle on a knife, you know, one of the little red knife. That's all he had. Anyway, man, we went through that door, we went through the entry door.

I went through the exit door. And so the old guy, he was standing about an ice machine from the ice and ice machine. You know, we weren't looking out to hurt nobody anyway. Right. We just want to know we just want the money, so we can go get high. Right.

That's all we want to do. We want to go get high. And so Billy, so when I seen Billy come through the entrance door, he pulled the chain, you know, and they let the door down so the car won't come through. Right. See what I'm saying? All got to do is close that door right there. They think they're closed. They think they closed.

And so the old guy, he was standing right there by the ice machine. So my brother had to give him his armor jacket. So I just had him in the armor jacket. So I just walked him behind and said, just don't move. So he just looked at me and said, man, just don't hurt me. I said, man, anybody will have hurt you anybody going to get hurt. We don't want the money. You know what I'm saying?

So we sold, bro, before I look around, when I look around, hey, Billy gone, he'll have left me. Why? He was scared? No, he don't got the money gone. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's, no, this is my first time doing it. And so, this is my first time doing, doing the robber. Right.

You know what I'm saying? So Billy in a hotel. He said, hey, let's go. He's gone. So when I looked down, he ran around to the car. So I just, I said, see you later, man. I ran around to the car. He, hey, what went wrong with?

Hey, but anyway, man, we got that there, bro, man. We were rolling after that, though. How much you get? About two grand out of it, though. Two grand. That's not bad. Because, you know, now they get the, as soon as they get to a couple hundred bucks, they put it in the thing.

Back then, back then, now we're talking about eight. Yeah. Now back then, bro, let me tell you, they did take the money, the drive-thru, they didn't have safes. Right. They didn't have cameras. Right. You know what I'm saying? They didn't have cameras in that then. So that wife took no so hard to find to keep track of us. Right. So if they can put a picture on the, on the local news of you guys. Does anybody know who these two guys are? Exactly. All they know is just a black and white guy. Did you cover your face? Oh. No. No. I'll, sure. I don't think about cold a little face there, man. But anyway, man, back then, hey, they kept the money in the Barnett, that went to Bunnett Bank, in them Bunnett Zip bags, in the file box in the back. See, I learned this as when we went on. This is funny because my first account was in Barnett Bank. In Temple Terrace, in Barnett Bank.

Oh, I'm going to buy that bank now. They got bought out by, was it Bank of America or some, but I forget, because my account changed from Barnett Bank to whoever bought them out. Yeah, yeah. I thought out by somebody, but anyway, I'm sorry. But after that, man, we was on the road then. I thought we was on the road, but hey, I mean, we were going to work. Right.

We were going to work and everything, man. Well, we went to work just for that first week, for that next week. But after that, though, we quit our job and everything, because we were making money doing this right here. And, bro, we were, hey, we got that money, we smoked that up. And so he got out there, we had to went back to work and everything and then. Sometimes, somehow we just stopped going back to work and they were robbing them every day, every day. I mean, you're just going around the, is it just, how many are in the general area?

Back then, back there, back there was probably about me, about 26. Probably not even that many, probably. Probably not about me, probably close to us about 20 of them, you know. But we hadn't got the way we went back robbing them. the same ones over and over again? Back to back, yeah. Back to back, bro. We're going to robbing them back to back.

So what's the next one you robbed? The next one we did, bro, was over there, over in Brandon area. Yeah. Oh, yeah, over in the brand of area, yeah. So we wait, so the good time to get them,

we waited until around by, closing time, because it's closing now at the clock. So we'll go over there, we'll sit. We'll post up in front of them, man. We're supposed to be in front of them, and they sit there and just watch them, you know,

sit right across the street there, eating a burger, probably getting high, you know, because we had so much money, we could keep some little stuff on us now. And so we did, the one over there,

Brandon, now that's the one we hit twice. That's one we out, that's one we're here, or the dude, he could have killed us. For real, on that second run,

they were a big fucker, too, man. Did you have a gun this time? No, we didn't have a gun. We ain't get a gun until about the third one. I tell him when we got the gun. I stole my dad a gun. About the third one. But no, about the fourth one, I sold the gun.

That's when I got the gun. Yeah. So what do you mean this guy could have killed you? Well, see. Was he, did he have a gun? No, no. See, the thing was. Okay.

You remember the sheriff's default? They used to be behind. Sayers. Yeah, it used to be. Behind, there's a bit of sharehouse behind, and the Bellberg house, I saw across the parking lot right there. Okay.

So we went into that one right there. Went to that one there. It was like a clean suite the first time. Then we hadn't got like about four grand out of it up. So we're like, shoot, man, we're going to wait a couple of there and go hit that one again. You know, because we got so much money out of it. But this time, they kind of have weighting on it,

but luckily with Billy had to park across the park a lot. I think it was sales. One of those stores there was there and the webbler was set right there. And they rerunning out, you know what I'm saying? And I didn't know it, you know what I'm saying? And the Billy didn't know it, but the detective had to tell us, you know what saying, that when y'all didn't run it, dude, I almost shot y'all. Okay.

You know what I'm saying? That's how we found out. You know, dude, I was shot, because he ran, he had to came back to the crew. We put them in the cooler. They didn't lock it, you know what I said. Just put them in the cooler. You never locked nobody in there just put him in the cooler.

He comes running out. Grabed his gun. Grabed his gun. You know what? We was in between calls. You know what I'm saying? Going in between cars, though. And we got all hooked down right there.

And then that's what we did is in the Riverview. Now, the Riverview was pretty tricky. But what is that? I tell you, one, we had to outrun the state trooper. I have a question real quick. How old are you? You still like 18 to 20 years? old. Yeah, yeah, this is all going in that year.

Yeah, right after high school. Yeah, yeah. This is all going that year in that same year. Yeah. Oh, that's about how old. It took them on, it took them on, what, about seven months to catch up with us. Right. Before they really found out exactly who we was. Okay. You know what I'm saying? But by then, we don't pull it off. We're down there hit every last one of them in town. You know what I'm saying? So, when these are happening, are there, like, newspaper articles coming out, saying, hey, the Beverage Castle on, you know, Brandon Bullard was robbed?

No, no, no, they weren't putting it out like that just yet. You know what I'm saying? But as, you know, as crime keep happening over and over here, it becomes a story. It becomes a story. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We did the one in Riverview. We did the one in the Real View that, bro.

That was a clean sweet, too. Well, it was hard to get up out of there because that was said in the real view. That's the one we used the gun because that's the biggest one. Beavocaster that was in 10th. So they had two people working in now. You know what I'm saying? So there's a lot of traffic. Yeah, yeah.

And it's a lot of cars that were going. It was set on the main drag in the real view right there. And so we went up and there. I think that's when we used the gun. Yeah. I'm down right there. But it really wasn't no real gun. Right.

What do you mean? It didn't work? Oh, it worked. And it sounds like a real gun when it got the gas two. in it. So it looked like a 357, heavy, but it really went a real gun. It was a like a, but you can,

but you can, you can tell the police that cause from, from the look of it. Yeah. You know what saying? You know, it looked real to them. Yeah, it might be, you might as well, it might as well, they're going to charge you anyway. That's what they did. They charged with the gun anyway. But anyway, um,

that we did that right there, man. At this time, at this time, here, man, we want going back home, bro. We weren't going back home at all, man. We were going to stand in a motel, man, called the Golden Penny, man. The Golden Penny had everything. Everything. You didn't have to go no well. Right. You want the hookers, you know what I'm saying? You want the hookers, man. You want the drugs. You know what I'm saying? It's right, though. And when you said it didn't, it had everything. I was thinking, I was thinking, like, it's got like a convenience store. It has a gym.

Oh. Oh. Oh. That one you want to call it, bro. It's not what your thing. No, no. But the goal depends with all the people, with all the bad, like, I guess with all the bad people go at. Okay. You know what I said?

It was a hotel set right off. Restaurant. Yeah. Oh, well, it did have, we had a Womahe house right downstairs, you know what I'm saying? Right on Dakota, you know. But we had, we stand up, man.

We're standing out. There was a good high spot. And the police didn't come up in there too much, man, because they knew what, they knew what the area was, you know, and the area that they owned it, you know what I said, you didn't have to sign no paper. bro, he got a couple hundred dollars, you know what I'm saying, that was it.

To me, really, we're kind of like loaded then, you know what I saying, doing all the things, getting high man, hey, bro, I ain't, I tell you, I regret it then again. I don't regret it because I had some damn fun. But anyway, until like this is in a day, though, hey, this, this was right here we did. This is over in Lakeland, bro. Now, this is the scariest thing of my life, you know. man, hey, we had, cool, the way it sat, it was a neighborhood behind, behind it.

It sat right off the interstate. It was the neighborhood behind it. So it wasn't, the interstate was a good getaway, because it's right there, jump back on and say hard ass back to town for, you know what I'm saying? But anyway, bro, it's, it was, the way we got in, we had parking to the little neighborhood, which was due to place behind it,

had a starkey fence. And you can see with somebody already punched the hole in the fence where you can crawl to come behind the dumpster right there. So we went

through the, went through a little hole came out, you know what I'm saying? When it did all the thing, man, we know exactly

we're going to get the money at the bell for houses now. They only have to tell us. Y'all keep the money in the rest. We just want them

three money bags, four money bags that y'all got back in a little file box. Right. You what I'm saying? So once we get in there,

man, hey, throw down the, on the man, shit, put the little people in the little cooler, though, whatever, you know what saying? You don't lock it. They say, oh, push the door and get out. Just put them in the cooler.

And, um, shoot, but on the way I told me, I said, man, hey, hey, I say, now, bro, we get on this state, man, just drive down, man, you won't have to speed, or that they made it. Hey, we're going to take, or, or a half a minute of it, whatever, you know what, you know what I'm saying, to go in to come out? No, this fool, he wanted to get on the down in the state now. He got a little It wasn't a five phone But it had the eight-silling in it, Mustang

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Well, they were fast, though. But anyway, it was fast. that night. Yeah. Yeah, damn your fan that day, because he, because he,

instead he driving, instead he driving the speed limit, that damn ability, he hauled ass down our foot. And that's the thing, no, the, before they put the little guards

in the meter, they had the way the state trooper can turn around and stuff like that. And so he was sitting right there in a little turnaround spot, bro,

and came right behind. I said, oh, man, I said, man, I can't pull over the night, man, hey, I got a warrant on me. I said, for what?

I didn't know he was on probation. By the only probation. I said, oh, man. I said, here we go. And so he, I said, I was about he. He was already around seven, so he might have gone to finish the rest of it. You know what I'm saying?

She, going to put it on to the floor. So some kind of way, I don't know if it was just the greatest guard we got out of that. Right. You know what I said? I told he, but we got all, he was to stay true

at least about four car lengths behind us. You know what I'm saying? So it's already dark. So what Billy do, he turned the lights off, don't hit the brakes. This, this joke, get off the ramp going 100 and seven miles an hour to know the size of the ramp. Right. Get off that run. And once you get on to know what's a run, that's all Black Road, dog.

Ain't no homes or houses down there. There's nothing that old trees down there. Right. You know what I'm saying? And so he, so he got the lights off. We're going down this dark road, man, going about 100. You know what I'm saying? and then he slow down and make a turn, make a right turn down,

I guess what, Knight Griffin Road, whatever the road is, one of the roads there. Well, he made this turn, and then they shoot up in the orange grove. And turn the lights off, and lights were already off, but I guess he probably knew the area, but I stand to him, I don't even knew that area, do you what I'm saying? But he turned the lights off, man, so we waited, shot down, waited, waited, hell I'm about to shit them a damn fan because I know we feel to get caught but anyway

but we look for out of the down right there real easy and so did the cops ever go by or you never saw nothing just waited it out we just saw that weeded for about 30 minutes and they don't come by

and no lights come down the road none of that there come down or none of that stuff that have and so I say shoot so Billy said man I have we got the road I told him, I told him I didn't go back to the motel. I told him to take me to the house.

You know what I'm saying? He said, you go out to the house? Yeah, I said, yeah, just give him my cut. Take me to the house. Why, you, he's, what, you're worried about him now? He's crazy. Are you afraid that they are going to find the car? No, it's just, it's just, it's a son just told me to just go to the house.

Man, I just wanted to go to the house. So I went to the house with my little sister. So I called me the sister for the pay phone because they didn't have a cell phone. I called me the sister for them. I said, anybody else? She said, no. I said, well, yeah. She said, I'm home in the room.

Tell me my daddy. So they're in the bed. I said, all right, come open the back door. I was saying, because I was right up the road to the little store right there. But Billy dropped me off. I just took, I said, I didn't chill out for a couple of days, bro. It's a couple of days. So, but it didn't take no cover of the on.

I took it down there before I ran. a little money. So I go call the billy up. He called the bill up, so he came back and got me on the next morning. He got me the next morning that, bro. And so Billy said, way out here, they were, um, we got a couple more to do. And, uh, then we'll go back. Then we're going to do a couple more him. And then we're going to go back to, um, we're going to go right to the motel, get all stuff. And then we're going to change.

in a motel room. He said, without making a feel better. I said, look, it ain't do anybody that day. They said,

that's true. That true just gave the best out of me. You what I'm saying? So, but anyway, well,

we did, we did a couple more jobs, man. We did, in my fact, we did a circuit K, no, 711.

I have a question real quick. So, after you've done four, five, six, how many ever long, like,

are you kind of perfecting your craft? with the Beavage Castle, like, what are you looking for specifically? Is there, like, a store that makes it a target? Like, how has it evolved over the first few? Like, what are some of the lessons that you've learned? Like, what are you looking for? How do you stake it out?

Yeah. Things like that. Are you still as nervous as the first time? No. No. No. No. What made me nervous first, what made me nervous, I wouldn't know like the first time.

The first time we did. But, like I said, it was the first time for everything. You know, I think we know, hey, we're unstoppable, we can't get caught. But the trooper made me nervous when the trooper got behind us that really made me nervous. But after that, right there,

oh, it was on the apartment, it was on the apartment, everything. I tell what, bro, I got so comfortable with it. Right. Doing it, you know what I'm saying? Weren't about them no more.

Hey, I just, I kept some drugs on me. Hey, everything we were driving. We're getting high. You know what I'm saying? Hey, bro, let me tell you, we knocked off the 7-Eleven store, right? We had to knock the Beaver Castle and Timber Terrace came down the road, knocked off the 7-Eleven store, right? The police was on their way to the Beaver Council.

We were on our way to the 7-Eleven store. In Timber Terrace. In Timber Terrace. I know, by the way, the one's on 56th Street. I know where the Beaveron's on. I've driven through it many, many times. And I know where the 7-11 is, right where Whiteway, 7-11, on Whiteway, when I was a little kid,

my mom, I grew up, no, I grew up on Druid Hills Road, which is only two roads over. My mom used to give me like a dollar, and I would, we were only a couple blocks away. I would either, I would ride my bike up there. And you go in, you're like six years old, like back when we were young. Yeah.

You could let a five, six-year-old, he could be two months. miles from the house. You just let them go. Let them go. I would go up there. She'd go, go up to the store and get some milk or do this. And I'd go up, I'd get some candy and milk. Exactly.

Come back. And I know exactly where that 7-1-7-11 is. And the beverage coffee. Yep. That way. That was eight. That is funny. Hey, we had got hot.

I told our bro. I told her they own their ways to the Bevel Castle. We want all the way to the 7-Ele. But really, the 7-11 got robbed. They wanted to get wrong. She was what I was saying? They wanted to get a pack of cigarette. Yeah, because I just wanted to get a pack of cigarette.

this asshole in the store talking shit. Do you what I'm saying? So I say, I'll tell you what. Just back up, just give me the money at the register. That's what you do. So I just push his ass on the back. When he parted the wrist open, when they came up, I just put his ass on the back.

Snatched, hey, snatched the money. Junk Habercard car, kind, got the money at the register. Hey, we're out of them. No bad ass on, no. But they got cameras. Oh, okay. And that's how we got people. That's how we got picked up.

That's how they got the, they didn't really get the face. They ain't really flash off face on the news and that. But, bro, we got, hey, we got smoking hot then, then. And then, hey, then we got, we got smoking hot then. And then, hey, then. Let me see, there was one, there was one right there off Riverview, another one in Riverview, or the one we hit last time. Then what, just him said out of why.

Like, you're going to Riverview right there. Prognor Progress Village. That was a Progress Village. It set out that Y there. She went in that one right there. Down right there, we had the grass out right there. Hey, we went in a, bro, we didn't have kind of violent in that way, because they had a safe, too what I'm saying?

So we had to do our thing. We really had to really put the threat down on them. And it was like a nerdy guy. And, you know what I'm saying? In my fact, they were so good, we hit their little ass twice. And the little nerdy guy talking, oh, they did go again. Yeah. We went back to second time.

He told, oh, you're all back again? Yeah, so you know the routine then, so we're going to do what you got to do? You what I'm saying? After them, hey, we started rolling after that, though, bro. Talk about really rolling, then a couple of times, Billy left him

to the motel. He went to did this, all the little thing, came back, and then we had to bulljohn around in the New York one time, and he had a little modern par store right there that started to buy ourselves. I'm about for a couple of thousand dollars. Right, but each lick we did,

You know what I'm saying? It was, there was, you know what I'm saying? It wasn't a four or $500. It was always over $1,500. Basically, we did. That's kind of like made it worth for all of us, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, well, that was 20-something years ago, right? 20, right?

30 years ago, yeah, 30 years ago, bro, yeah. How old are you? I'm 58. 58? Yeah, okay. How often, is it every weekend, every night? We were doing this shit just about every day. And are you burning?

We wanted to get high, man. Yeah, I'm not saying. Are you burning? Are you stacking up money? Are you just burning? No, no. We're burning, bro. We're burning.

We got whores over here, you know what I'm saying? We got grok over here. Hey, we walk around. We're all full, walking around the house. Smoking and getting high, man. I mean, hey, we're tearing it up, bro. We're tan it up. This way we made our mistake at, though.

This one they throw it down. Now, we'll knock a market. off, bro. We'll knock them off. We might hit a little small change or whatever, no, some of the carers over. I hit a little circle cage, no, one circle cage back then. Magic Market. Remember the snow? Convenient Stone called Magic Market.

A little purpose sign there. Maybe. Yeah. Magic Market. Sounds familiar, but I can picture. I can picture everything else you've said. I immediately see them. Yeah, yeah. They're from out of tests, too. They all just like Shop and Gold Surcases all on

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Just get us buy Whatever And then Billet was Like I told We did a couple more Maybe three or four more Man

And Billy wanted To save motel room Right I said, no, man, we've been here about six months, man, and we good at him. Now, he got a park for the money, I got a pocket for a minute. Why do you want to say a motel room? You know? Oh, man, man, I got a feeling about this motel room.

I got a feeling about this motel room here. I said, no, man. Now, by this time, him, they don't, they don't got us on the news, right? But they really don't got our face on the news, but they got a black and white guy, saw the pepper team. That's what they were calling. We'll go back to the motel room. We'll do a lick and go back to the motel room

and sit down getting high and watch them talk about us on the news. Right. You know what I'm saying? Hey, and Billy said, hell, I don't, they got my weight wrong. I said, what, motherfuckers? They got your weight, bro.

Let them have your weight, man, shoot. We know you ain't number of a buck, a buck 50, man, shit. Little as you will. And I went wearing them, I was, what, maybe about 110 pounds, 115 pound. They could, they talk about I'm I'm wearing 200 pounds. Right. They were going to seem like giant.

They were going to seem like we're giant. We're doing some shit, you know. But this is the kicker. This is how I tell you how we got busted. This is how we got busted, man. And I don't think we would never got busted, man, but then I was changing motel room. Okay.

Which I knew they would have caught up with us. They would call. Which I didn't know. My mom and friend, who she went to school with was a detective. He stayed out there in the country, you know what I'm saying? Okay. my mom had to went to him. So they already found out who he was.

Oh, your mom said, I think this is my son and his friend. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. So he investigated. So he told my mom and said, I tell you, I'll get up, I'll find him forward. They find, because they find they're going to shoot it. Yeah.

You know, they're going to shoot. You're lucky if you're shot going in. Because we were called, Billy had to see, Billy had to do some stuff I didn't know about when he left him in the motel room. Yeah, I didn't know he don't want to beat somebody. and all that shit there. The wrong room, you know what I didn't know that though. Right.

You know, so that marred to me too, because both of us together. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, well, one of us do, it's going to affect the other guy. Right. See what I'm saying?

And so, really, I want to change more to tell you. I said, man, I like it here, man. I said, we got the hoars. You know what I'm saying? Hey, I don't have to go too far to go get the grok. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Look, bro. I'm good. You know, I'm good. I'm good. No, no, man, we got to change more to them. So we went from the Golden Pending to the Aden. The Aiden end, I don't know, Columbus Drive. Bro, we're bawling.

I told my, we don't have. We don't have. When we knocked off, we knocked off, we knocked off, what, the Bell Castle, we knocked off the Bell Castle, and then we knocked off a couple of stores on the way back. So we made, so we make it all pocket fat. So when we got on, we got back, so we were going to get a little bit.

We're going to get up that morning And we're going to head St. Pete, Clearwater. See what I'm saying? Early that morning, we were going to go terrorize them over there. Because this whole area, you've hit pretty much everything in this area. Yeah, yeah, so we can't really do too much over here no more. Right. You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? Every day. I'd be scared that if you rob one of them and maybe one or two twice, that the people that are there are going to start to think, you know what, I'm going to get a gun. Like, I'm going to have a gun. These guys are hitting these places. multiple times, they're probably going to come back here.

I at least want to have a weapon. Who knows? Who knows? It's true. That's true. But thank God they got our ass first. We showed for the repeat all that shit. So you were going to go to St. Pete?

Yeah, we were going to go to St. Pete. But it's not him, man. Okay, we changed motel rooms. We went to the A.D. AI is moving fast across the enterprise. But without visibility, it's just chaos. Different tools, different models. Different teams using AI in completely different ways.

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no people about saying too black a dude, a white dude walk in somewhere with money in their pocket from the paper. This dumb, he, he followed me in the damn place. You know what, man, I just thought about it. You paid for the laugh. I don't pay for the self. Oh, man. So that did, I guess he probably watched the news, but then that gave him suspicious. Oh, this is a black and white dude right here. You know what I'm saying? This is how I was thinking. Right.

This is how they, there's no, you know, after the league and call this and stuff, you know. And, uh,

so, so we parted all that night, man, I told him, we parted in all that night. Now, we,

when we checked then, parking lot was full, so what for? You know what I'm saying? We got the bottom floor. You know? And so, I said that there,

bro, I want to pick up some, some drugs and picked up a couple of girls and stuff, man, they,

we are we live still in the room we parted and stuff bro so I leave when I want to go pick the females up Paul and I was the same about four or five o'clock in the morning

I took them I was taking them home dropping them back off where I could pick them up from Paulin'clock still full now this was this was this was

this would shit got me right this was she to open my eyes up but I turn it back in to the 8 end the side by the wall it was full, slam full, you know what I'm saying? Only the park street was oh, it was mine in front of my door to a motel room right there.

I said, damn. Okay, so. So I really think nothing other, you know what I'm saying? I said, but I pawed, man, I parked and got out. So me, so we're getting out of the shower. So when I was fired him, we're getting in a house. still getting high. So about 7 o'clock that morning,

we got a phone call. I answered the phone. And I said, no, really answered the phone. And I, I asked me, I said, oh, man, you got open room service? I didn't call in the damn room service.

So I get the phone. Yeah, I'd answer that phone. I get the phone. And so the police said, Mr. Walters. And say, hey, bro, I tell, when they said that, hey, bro, my heart

that dropped to my guy. Them sock, man. I can see it bumping in my damn sock. Nah. Dude is in my heart. I say, man, what the hell? He said, Mr. Martin. Don't panic.

Don't get nervous. Hey, just come look out at the curtain. Bro. I looked out there, bro. Police is over there. Out on Columbus Drive. I guess everybody that was standing in the damn motel standing out there on Columbus Drive. Those were the news cameras, all of them standing out there on Columbus Drive.

I said, damn. I said, Billy. I said, man, you might want to come look at this, man. Hey, they told Billy, I told me, I said, you go out there first, I ain't going. But they ain't had to tell them out there at there because they called them out there first. So they knew all names. They knew all that, though.

They knew everything about it. I saw it back on the bed, man, continue to get hot. But finally go, hey, I'm from the shot to smoke up all my stuff. Can you take it with you? So, hey, when they call Billy out there, man, they told Billy come out with his hands up, you know what I'm saying?

Lay on the ground, bro. Hey, Billy went out, you went out there on, lay on the ground, man, I was looking at the curtain saying how they do Billy. See, about behind him. Billy got half on the ground, some cash from out of the tunnel or the farmland thing. They come out with the dog all behind them and stuff.

the one car stepped on the damn neck and all that unnecessary stuff man and so i said shoot let me do this before i go before i go out there you know what i got to see i shoot without my little works man took me another little hit hey shit and they called me out there man the only thing that saved me or that detective went to school with my mom he wanted to save me do they tell you to leave the weapon in the uh look my fact my fact only that thing they filed was just a parking knife. Oh, okay. Yeah.

I was the only thing they fought, the gun was gone. What, what happened to the gun? It went back to my dad. Oh, okay. Yeah. Barring it,

got it, rob a place back, yeah, I called me the sister. I tell him the sister where it's at, you know. Hey,

because my old man, he'll kill you about the gun. I just get more scared of him. Then the police catch him about these robberies back then. But anyway,

they got their, they bought this, bro. They bought the, I went back to see my mom before I went to jail. You know, the detective took me back to the house. Right. You know what I'm saying?

In his car. He took you back to see your mom? Yeah. Oh, that's nice. They were best friend, yeah. You know, so he thought I wasn't about old country boy, man. It really wasn't, you know what I'm saying? Didn't mean to get in no trouble another, man.

What were, in the newspaper? You said you were in the newspapers and stuff. Yeah, I mean, we still got the newspaper clip. What were they calling you? Saund a pepper team. Salt and Pepper team, man. It wasn't the bandits? It wasn't Salt and Pepper Bandits?

That would have Salt and Pepper Bandits, yeah. But she got new, she still got, I don't believe she still hold on to that clipping, man. That did. Yeah. What happened? How many was it? How many they book you on? They gave, they booked for 27 counts on a robbery.

Yeah. Well, so what they say when you, when you did go. when they got you in the jail? Like, they give you a lawyer? Yeah, they gave you the lawyer, but they had some separate sales. Well, see, Billy people, they know, they kind of wealthy, you know what I'm saying?

Which I didn't find out later on. Billy came from him kind of like wealthy family. Right. He just, he just was a bad seat, like I was a bad seat in my family, you know what I'm saying? And they had him on, they hadn't got a lawyer. Okay. You know what I'm saying?

So they got a lawyer for both for us. Oh, okay. You know, so that's, so that I was pretty much straight, you know. And, you know, but, hell, Jell's Cole-Harely Cole didn't care about no damn loyal. So that was my judge, man. They, um, I shoot, Harry Lee Cole gave him, man. He gave him for 12 years for each robbery.

That's like, that's, what, like four, four, five hundred years or something like that. But he ran them all into one 12 year. Oh, okay. And then, on, and gave us a, like, a lifetime probation. Billy had, I think Billy got more time than I did on his. Why? Because he had gone off and robbed somebody separately?

No, no, because he was on probation for something else. Oh. Yeah, so, so they gave him more time. They gave him more little time. But I went up about 19, bro. 19. 12 years, 19. How much time did you do back then?

I did eight years on the 12. Okay. Where'd you go? Tomoka. Tomoka. Is that where they went? Did they, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they send you to like a processing station first.

Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hell yeah. You go through late Butler, right. And that eight, they're the first time in prison. Right. You know what I say? So going through late Butler, man, hey, what's the, what's the, hey, bro. Let me tell you. It gets your ass off that bus. They get you off that bus, man. They put you on it. They got a long hallway, cold hallway. Concrete benching. They have your ass script. Put your property in front and script down. Boy, that, nigga And we want to smell them my ass in there. That's all we spend them with ass in there.

I call the ass hallway. Hey. But anyway, bro, he went through that man, made through that process. They, I told him, hey, them old boys didn't play. This was back in the 80s, bro. They didn't play.

They still had a, it made grade yard at there. They still had the gun squad at there, bro. I don't know. For a young man like me, man, to see so much to see activity like that there, bro.

Hey, I don't see them to the ball off the fence. We got to play a softball. You know what I'm saying? I guess dude he just got fed up. I mean,

Lake Butler was going, it was hard. You had to have some nuts to go through Lake Butler. Listen, I heard, I know guys that

to this day will tell you it's horrible. The guards are brutal. They'll just beat your ass. Like they're not even afraid of being written up. or having charges. They're brutal.

They wrote the laws on institution, man. So if it's brutal now, what was it like 30 years ago? Bro, worse. Yeah, I know. I'm just saying. Worse. They had a job. Hey, they advertise a job sitting up there through intake for all the new cars

that's coming through there. See what I'm saying? They want you to see this job, especially the big boy from, like, for Miami. for Miami and bro Miami, Jacksonville the boy with all the stuff in their mouth

them all these damn teeth in that damn jaw the one they don't knock that with them billy clothes they were scared of nothing they had a dog bro they had they advertise a dog they took some of that go

and put in the damn dog mouth and when that bitch grow like we want to see them a go and that's the word the truth, bro. That word of truth, I don't see some stuff as a young man

going through that man. And the camp there's something out with Tomoka and 2,700 inmates on it. It was like you're living in the damn projects. These boys,

they were doing a wintertime on eight. You know, 55-gallon drums, bro. Shit, they said, they were keeping the warm on there outside. They got them on fire. Right.

They burn the trash in the drum, bro. Hey, I'm trying to people running around that joke like it's a whole new world was in there I was in a whole new total world bro they didn't know nobody you know what I'm saying I went about 120 pounds you know hey hey I know how to fight but hell how the hell you're gonna compete against you've been there 25 30 years right and this and this was the time when um I've got I've got to go

a name they let them guys off death row and just gave them life sentence. Right. You know what I'm saying? So when he let, when he took them off death row from Rayford. Right. So what I'm saying? Oh, that's another thing.

You ever been to Rayford? No. Oh, thank God. I was in a federal prison. Oh, oh, when I hear stories. See,

federal differs from all that. Yeah, I didn't listen. When the guys from state prison, they do, you know, sometimes you get like a state charge, and then you have to go do federal time,

too. You get charged with multiple, I think some guys would do like five or ten years in the state and then they would come to Coleman and they would tell stories about being in the state prison that they just left. My stomach, I start feeling sick than my stomach. I'd be like, after about the fourth guy that would, bro, this happened.

I'd be like, you just got here from state and they'd be like, yeah, man, listen, what happened? I'd be like, no, I can't do it. I just leave because it was so. And this was 10 years ago. Guys were beating there. They're all talking about the car, is beating you up. Like, you don't even look at the guards.

And when you eat, you sit down, you got like five minutes. They're counting down the minutes and you just eat as quick as you can. That's how Butler Hill. Yeah. That's how Butler, hey, you got to serve as you. You got to learn how to eat fast. Yeah. But when he comes and he walked by that table and he do this on that table, you better, you better get ate.

Hey, I see God. The guy, they ain't feeling. They eat, they eat in the throwaway line. Right. To try and feel like that food. But Rayford? Let me tell you about Rayford. I was at Rafel.

Rafa was by herself, but I was right behind Rafa. Right where the legislature was. Then they let the kid your boy on, they brought the people of Wendixie. What's name? Which one? The one that brought the people up in Wendixen, Providence Village. Billy Ferry, is that the name? That's probably him, too.

Yeah, let's see. Billy Ferry was convicted of 7, 1983 for a fire at Wind Dixie that killed five people. Yeah, but it's, we were right there. And I was at New River East. Yeah, I was at New River East. And seen New River East, they had the old army barriers and domes. They had to shower on the inside.

He had to come out. It would be coldest. It was coldest. Fuck out that, too, bro. Tell him. You had to come out and go to the shower. Don't take a shower. About you, going to shower, don't take a shower.

And Rayford's out right there. And that year, that time I was there, bro, definitely electrocuted your boy. Why is it my boy? Oh, boy. Well, I think the other day he was the one that was over the end up in the end up. That said when this, I'm gonna fire.

He's killed the people when this. Yeah, I think that he was the one. But if he ain't, I might be mistaken. Right. But I know they electacuted somebody because they have protesters out there. They wouldn't let us out. Let me tell you, bro.

Hey, when you look out, bro, there was seagulls. That's it. There's nothing hang over there with seagulls, man. There smells over there. Why were you? So you were in a camp that was outside? Was there a work camp?

No, it was a transit camp. Oh, okay. A transit camp, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like when you went on, let's see, when you get ready to get a tramford, I go to your camp. Once you go through the stuff that on Butler, however you go through, they send you to this transit camp.

You know, most of them, you don't stay up, Butler. You know what I'm saying? Now they got like, you just go through Butler's ass like they do now. Go through that, you get your little physical. Then they send you the New River West or something like that, the Wild West somewhere, one of the transit camps there. And we don't for your ride to go to your permanent camp. So when you went to the camp, was it like a work camp that you went to? It was like a workout.

They were working on it. They didn't have no cafeteria. They were still being in the cafeteria. It was just a transit camp. I said when you ultimately got to the prison where you did all of your time. Oh, oh, Tomoka. Yes. Oh, Tomoka was a closed-in institution.

Oh, okay. So there was a good work camp. Okay. Four years later, I had them build a work camp behind. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't supposed to be out at the fence. Right. Yeah.

And that, and that, though, that place still ate. Honestly, some of bloodshed in that place still, bro, it's a shame. Yeah, I was going to say, I was at the medium, and I saw, and, you know, there's lots of fights and stabbings and stuff. But I went to the low security prison. I saw people are getting stabbed and covered with razors and, and shoot, I saw some of the most blood, bloody, I don't think it was as damaging, but there was a lot of bloody fights with guys hitting each other with locks. And, you know. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was a low.

That was low cuts of the camp. Now, Tomoka, man, I'll tell you how Tomoka was. Tomoka was so big. It had T-builders on each end. It had what on each end? T-builders. Tea builders are on the dorms. You got your own key to your door when you walk in.

You got a guard station right there. But you go, you got three floors. Right. Don't know what I'm saying? Go upstairs. You might be on the third. floor, whatever, you know what I'm saying? Da-da-da.

But T-building was like a whole house. And a drug house. Okay. That's all it was. You go in the T-builder, man, get the drugs. You got the key, you know what I'm saying? Hey, he got all the boys standing around him and his punks all around him and stuff, man. Like, I'm like, man, what the hell of this shit here?

All that was just a sack of weed, bro. You know? And, hey, it was crazy. It's like you never left to stand on streets, man. It's just a fence around you. Right. That's all that. They had everything you want at Tumulac.

Everything. They had everything. You drank, liquor? What you drink? What's you drink? Yeah. You want some hair, man? Of course, yeah.

It gets your body here. Just that easy. Just that easy. That tumult. And it also, bro, eh. It also was one of the murderous counts I've been to. It was the other account I've been to. Bro, hey, I was sitting in a barber chair.

I sitting in a barbletcher, man. Hey, I'm going to let my home boy from Tampa, shade him up and give my hair cup. So even your home, home boys don't let, don't warn your shit. So I was sitting there with, you know, he don't let the thing back here from there to give me a little shade, give me a little trim.

I was sitting there, and the other dude sitting in the chair over here, man, I was like, you know, and, shoot, the bar, his barber walked out, and my barber walked out to what was it sitting there? He's sitting there and sitting in a chair so I said

what the hell going on him so that's the day I know bro hey what big motherfucker come through that door what big brother come through that door so I was like

what hey they just went over to that do there and just start hey when they got finished

they looked at me I looked at I said I ain't see nothing I ain't hear that I'd snatched that day all went right on at the door

went right on that that day I do went right to my door Hey, bro, grab my, grab my supertuit, turning out through my head falls on. Hey, laid down my foot across the bed with a book like this right here. I ain't seen that.

I ain't seen nothing. Over time, I seen the guy. I seen the guy on the pound all the time. Hey, I ain't seen nothing. I ain't seen that. I ain't seen so much stuff, bro. I see, I don't see. The dude, they, the diver.

The leopard. Oh, who? The Olympic diver. The Olympic diver. The one that ran the kids over here in town and killed him. Kimmer, his name, Kimmy's or something. His ass was there. I can't think of any of the Chinese.

Bruce Kimball. Yeah. His ass came to tomorrow. You know what they did? They got there. Bro. They drugged his ass, raw, and they did their ass too. I swear I'll tell you.

Tell you, they're all your boy. I tell you, you're caught at Tomoka. You can have, you can have the best of shoes. You know what I'm saying? You can have your gold. You got to have one gold chain. One gold bridge, one gold chain, nice watch.

You can say you can have all that. You can have that stuff there at Tomoka. Could you have cash? It was cash. What was a long time ago? It was cash, bro. No cash anymore. Hey, you got, hey, you had your, you had your in prison from right there

buying houses on the streets from right there buying cars from right there I used to go see loan shop all the time I was low of money but I paid his ad because

I ain't want to get you know what I'm saying I paid it but man but sure I don't see a young white dude coming up man hey them brothers

they're talking about them brothers so about these these guys not the ones that I used to come up but these guys they took off death row bro. See, when you on death row, you don't see nobody.

You're all, you're just in the one cage for 10 to 12 years. Right. You know what I'm saying? You're in the one cage. You don't see nobody. You know what I'm saying?

When you go to wreck, when you go to wreck, when you go to death row, just one of y'all go out there. You got to do a little push-up, shoot you a little basketball by yourself, that's it. Now, you can match you.

You can imagine these food with the mind, bro, and there's one cage for about 12, 15 a year every day. and then when they turn their asses loose on the main compound, you know what going to happen? And they got nothing to lose.

They don't got nothing to lose. Yeah, they got life sentence. Yeah, they got a life sentence. They don't got nothing to lose. They had, they had, they, they minded already said they don't got nothing loose anyway from a death row. You what I'm saying? And, bro, hey, they took this young,

they took this young white boy man just stole it. Look all I said, dude. Right there, big motherfuck like that, I told them these jokes like, like Hercules or somebody. by the man, they're off the death road, bro. Hey, the guards was even scared of him. You know what I'm saying?

But, hey, you have to take a young man like that dude, though. Even though they're going to cost you. You don't got much time, you know what I'm saying? You probably got three or four years. But now you're going to, now you're going to upgrade your years to a murder charge. Right. Because you're tired of what they're doing to you. Fuck that.

They ain't going to get my ass no more. They ain't going to get my butt in. no more. Fucked that. So what he did. And one thing about guys like that they love to go

on the weight power. They had loose weights then. You know what I'm saying? They love to go out down the weight fire and love to push all this steel.

You know what I'm saying? The little man did, he said when they got 100 it all to take 100 pounds. A hundred pounds or a curl ball with 100 pounds on it.

He got his ass like this right here? He got to right on his neck. Right on his neck. And they can't, they didn't have to go, they didn't have to come get him. He walked to the office station itself. Yeah. Well, how much more time they give you for that?

For that back then, bro, if it's just, if it's real justified or whatever, you know what I'm saying, threat for your life, you know what I'm saying? They really don't get you nothing. Right. I was just going to say, I knew a guy who, hey, they were giving these guys like six months or 18 months. It was in federal prison. This was like 30 years ago. Mm-hmm. The inmates killed each other.

They weren't given any more time. They would lose time or they would lose game time. Yeah, that's about it. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's about it. Yeah, because they're going to lock up. Yeah.

But they were, they were taking you on the outside court. Now, if you brutal, murder somebody without nobody doing nothing to you. Right. Then they take, when they take it to the outside court, yeah, they probably get some more time then. But other than that, that job was crazy, man. That's crazy. They, it was. It was wild, bro.

And you did eight years? I did eight years on that. What happened when you got out? When I got out? You went and started, got a job driving a forklift and just. Hey, man, when I got out of there, bro, let me tell you, when I got out, ain't nothing change about my habit. Yeah, I went right back smoking here. But this time, I mean, this time I kind of learned from it.

You know what I'm saying? For going out there stealing people's stuff robbing them. You know what I'm saying? To go learn how to work. Make my own money. Right. You know what I'm saying? So that's what I do now.

I pick my own money. But I, oh, I went back. I went back on the same's charge, you know what I'm saying? I got out, I got out moved to Daytona. I liked it so much. I moved there. I lived there for about seven years. You know what I'm saying?

Married, wife home and everything. Came back on. Went back to prison on the same charge for, you robbed somebody? No, no, no, no, for violation. They had a lifetime probation. Yeah. And so our technical violated that then went back with 15 years. And is it a fill in a piss test or something?

Yeah, yeah. Fitting a fist test. Went back for how long? 15 years. On a technical violation? Yeah, that was lifetime probation carry. 15 years. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, look it up, better to tell you. A lifetime probation on carry, you only don't get to do 15 years only. You ain't going to do no lifetime, but 15 years the most you can do on it. Wow. Yeah, so it carried the 15 years. See, by then, Cole had to move to state attorneys. Judge Cole, so I had a new judge, so he ain't know what to do with me.

When he looked out with the record, he seen all them down charges. So in the lifetime probation, so he gave him the 15 years. So I had to appeal to 15 years, which I went back and did four more years. Okay. So I made the whole 12 years. Yeah. And so I got out. I didn't do the whole fifth time.

I just did four years. Still for a fucking dirty urine? Yeah, for a dirty urine. Yeah. It gave me 15 years for that shit. My life with that, bro, hey, that's been a long time ago, man. Like I said, man, hey, the shit was scary. Hey, you know, and I, bro, I, hey.

I had some fun. I don't regret it from. I ain't going to bullshit you, man. A lot of people sit and talking about, oh, man, I'm going to push out with the, you did the shit. Go do your time,

get in the way, later on, you come out on the top. You know what I'm saying? But in prison, man, that was a fucking adventure for me.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Hey, out of the wild, bro, hey, out of putting on some weight, bro.

My gloves got big, you know what I'm saying? I feel like I'm going to touch me, boy. I, shoot, I got through a couple of hands and nothing. Shit, well, I was a little pinky, little skinny, little skinny, a little joker. You walk around and shaking. Shoot, like a little dog in the corner, bro.

But I tell you, the time was about so fast. It's unbelievable. I helped them build, I went to school in there. I helped them build a, I went to the missionary school, lay blocks and stuff. I took a, I had to build a work camp right behind it. One of them supposed to be outside the fence. Right. One of them to put up in a man, I had them build that up,

but the major that ran the compound, I still had like, what, about four more years to go. And so we built that work, I had to build that work camp, so he told everybody else, said, look, I could do, I could transfer of y'all, I could say, some of y'all to work release, some of y'all I can't win, we didn't do nothing for. I wanted that he couldn't do nothing for.

But he gave me a sweet-ass job on the outside. That was what I met on, Greg, Tim, and Dunn. Yeah, working on the Beach Squad. Who's that? They were outside, free world people. Okay. They came in the pit milk from the work camp. He left him stay over to the work camp when he finished it.

When it took it, you had to build it. When he finished it, he never stayed with to the work camp. Major did, and they got me a little sweet job. You're just like, then you have experience. Now I'm I've trained to be a mason. Now I've actually done work. I'm actually I have experience. Yeah.

And then Greg taught me to most of the home improvement workoffs. We worked for the state. He was maintenance guy or for the state for hideaways, juvenile detention, boys and girls' home, all shit. Like anything the state owner in the Volusia County, he'd maintenance it. And they had, what, 26 facilities. And so, me and this other inmate, we just rode around into all these facilities

that helped them change out, like, fissures, paint, changed out, sockets and stuff like that. We did all that, though. Some of them kept the grass cut for him. We had Ryan Moore. Makes the time going to fast.

Yeah, he didn't want to help me out with some of that there. And then once I got the no-hilt shoot, or, me, he'll came in real tight. He would come to get more on the weekends. He go by me a whore man. He go by me a horror, bring it to the house, knock off, man. I walked in a, hey, he gave him $30 every day to walk into the gate with every day. So, man, baby, it was cool.

He was cool with me, you know. Sure, he was cool with me. Hey, I get out on the weekend, where, hey, I take off the blues. So I take the blues. Oh, put some jeans on the T-shirt. Just like I ain't nobody in prison. Hey, shoot. Give me a piece of ass.

about me a piece of ass, up, boy. Hey, smoke with some weed, draper yourself hair. Hey, I was doing good because, you go, if we couldn't get all that stuff over there to the work camp just yet, you had to be on the main compound. You get all that stuff.

So to the work camp was brand new, so they really ain't had that going on just yet. So I started off to, hey, I just get some weed, so I started bringing weed in in my boot. Right. Yeah. You know, no little broken boots they'd be having,

black boots? Yeah, just, just opening it up to cut the soil in the bank of it out right there. And I just take a center block and let that center by sitting on that all day while I might work. Hey, take that center block off there, man. It'd be that, that'd be thin and flat, put the round of soul in my boot. And so when the officer comes, the first thing you do, what the first thing you do with it for the script search? You're going to kick your down boots. The first thing they grab them.

They grab them. They throw them to the side. Yeah. Shit. When you do that right there? I say, hell, you want to see the crack of my ass too often? She ain't. The weed already is.

Yeah, he'll throw the grass. The ground, yeah. So, shoot, I started making money, a little money to the work camp. Yep. Just like an undercover hole selling a grad. Yes, sir. Stop making that money that man. Shoot, real straight.

Yeah, never got caught doing that. Huh? Never got caught? Man, I would make some of the money. We ate. I was sending money home. I like the motor to the menu and shit. So one thing about the work camp brand new.

Now, they got the DOT squads, they got the B squad, they got outside ground guy. You know what about getting a hold of no marijuana like I was? See, I all getting a whole of me, hey, remember who brain eight? You know what the joint cost of me, I mean, that. Just one little little joint. You don't got a good fat joint. Just a little peed joint. She, that's $10.

Just for a little, you just barely got some of their weed in, though. $10. Yeah. I know these guys, guys, when they outlawed tobacco, you know. Yes. People were, yeah, it was ridiculous. People will pay, you know, like you said, they'll pay 10, 20 bucks for a portion of a cigarette. Yeah.

$10. Yeah, this is a cigarette. Just to have a smoke. Cigarette, man, that's crazy. They're still doing that right now today. Yeah. They're still doing that. Shoot.

So the 26, you know, all the robberies, how long was that? Was that six-month time span or? About seven months. Yeah. Seven months. That's what running that robberies, man. Seven months cost 12 years. Yeah.

Oh, man. Seven months. But he got high to the motherfucker, though. Right. That's what they're about That's what they're about That you got high man And hey

I tell you what I advise everybody I can tell my nephew man Hey Don't do what I do Right Look at your uncle now What that I always tell you

Don't do what your uncle do Now because Hey your uncle out there He's into some shit And he'll tell her What he's gonna do See And right now

Right now the day Hey I still Kind of in that In that mind stage, bro, you know what I'm saying? I still ride by a place and just sit down and just look at them, you know what what I'm saying? And say, man, I need to see, I need to check them out of the end's eyes.

You know what I say? I do shit like that. I'm sure I do, I sit there and just look out of place, man, like easily, especially easy, easily. I don't can't tilt there a couple of times. You what? Like, can't tempt it. Oh, you started, you were going to do it?

To knock another snow off or whatever. But I see all that much. money coming in, you know. And I'm like, bro, nah, I better not do that, though. They don't go home. And you don't, now you, now they, you know, like they'll get to like a hundred bucks. Yeah. Boom.

They always drop the money. And then it can't get, it can't open it. And then everybody got down cameras. Right. Everybody's got cameras and almost all the money going through there is all digital anyway. Yeah. It's not. It's not nothing there.

No one. So like that's like the dude shot the dude in New York City. He thought he got away. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He thought he got away. They caught his head. And he'll jump three or four states.

He can't have jumped three or four states, man. They only showed half his face. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For just a second. Boom. Yeah.

That was it. That was it. And they still called it. Just like that. Man, you can't get away of shit no more, man. You can't say okay. So, wait. You see, you don't hear about, you know, back in the day, you'd hear about a lot of robberies.

Right. You don't hear about that shit hollet hollet. Yeah. People robbers, snow, especially ban. Oh, you all, if you ever been to bait rob me, they,

do about the crazy, coolest motherfuckers you want to be a bait robber. They had one, my face, with my homeboy, called a costume bank robber.

You never heard of that? You never heard of hell? The carstoon? Costume, costume, costume, costume. Oh, costume. Costume. Costum, bank robber.

You never heard of hell? Hollywood. Maybe, but I don't know. This cat, let me tell you. Let me tell you. Matter of fact, he's a cousin. My friend, he's stayed in the house. Y'all stayed in.

The house, your dad don't stay in. Did he dig up all in the back back? They're trying to find the money? This dude, now, his lit was, his lit was, now, hey, he, he, he, or, his old lady would that the bank.

get jobs at the beans. Right. He comes and dressed up like a woman. And roared the bean. Yeah. I told her. So she'd give him the lowdown. She'd get a load out.

She'd get a load out. Yeah. I told my brother, hey, he had, he had it so that. And you know what? And the thing about it, man, they never knew who he was. He never would have got caught because they didn't know who he was. They didn't know how the operation was going on. He didn't did it for about almost two years.

You know what I'm saying? Doing this, him. and they didn't they didn't know they didn't know who he was How did he get caught? Stepdaughter She just told somebody

Or told him Stepdaughter, stepdaughter found out what was going on She found out what was going on And She asked him for some money He wouldn't get to her She called the cops on

That's how they got caught Oh that, though They would have never got caught, bro What is the biggest amount you got from one store? $4,000 a month. When you're looking at these convenience stores, whether it's back in the day or even today, what makes a store vulnerable and what makes them secure it?

What makes the store vulnerable is the people that is the person that run at the store. If they just look soft or like they would just. You know, no saying they're, you know, they're real vulnerable if a raw world was out there like I was. They would really make a vulnerable, and they didn't, when they did everybody's self.

It's just one person now. And sometimes if you're going to do it, if you're going to do it, it's going to depend on the location where the store is, too. You know what I'm saying? Did you ever have a store where you went in and the cashier refused?

No. No. And none of refused. We had, we interviewed a guy where he went in, and he had a gun and everything. Pulled a gun on the chick. She's like, no, I'm not giving anything. I'm not, no. Oh, no.

And he just, he got frustrated and went to the bank down the street. Went down to him, Bradford and got them. She's like arguing with me. She went to give it to, no, he ain't had the ball to choke up. Yeah. Billy with a grout of ass and looking at it. Hey, you're going to give him, I'm going to take it at you one. So listen, I saw a TikTok the other day where the jury, see this when the girl goes,

he goes, the guy's got a gun, giving them money, and she says, he goes, I don't think that's a real gun. He goes, you want to see how real it is? Bow, and he hit her in the head with it. It was like, it gave him the money. Oh, man. Yeah, but, um, why don't, see, that's what I do. I just don't run in and just rob a store.

I looked that as I was going along with Billy or he just like just sitting there in front of him, just look at him you know, and I picked up on what he was doing he was surveilling the store. Right. You know, they didn't know what's coming in, what's going out.

And so he Billy's told me so, man, you just don't run in there and be surprised. Robbing the story can't be surprised. So like you said, you might have a gun. Yeah, you might run in there think there's one person and there's actually some guy walks out.

He's got a piece. Like, you don't know. Yeah, exactly. When it goes bad, it goes bad, really bad. Oh, yeah, it could get bad, though. But really, but we, on the toast that we had with two guys, and one over them, farm river. Yeah, River, you know, Far and River, yeah, Far River,

yeah, I didn't want to know, real, real view, yeah, that's sitting out there in the Y right there. That's the only one of the level, because they had two people in. right though. But, bro, it was, it was, it was, it was a venture for me, though, man. I learned a lesson off of it, though. I love a lesson off of it, man. But daddy got on when I got out, let's see, when I went to prison on that,

when I got the first time, yeah. I sit back there on the barn, bro. It's, though. Sit back there on a barrel of hay, looking at the cows, right? I ain't help my old man walk up behind me, you know what I'm saying? I said there was some dope. I ain't feeling to hit my shit. You know what I'm saying?

Right when I hit my shit. I was going to say, boy? Man, I had to stand with this way to that fucking wave. That's saying, boy, let me tell you something. Which I learned a lot off my dad too, because he used to redo those trailers, floors and shit like that. He said, boy, let me tell you something. If you're going to smoke that shit, go out of work for it.

go out there robbing them people for their money, man. He said, you know enough stuff that I don't told you with you, you know, they're going to learn that up there in those prisons. You know, what I'm saying? They go out and start your own thing. You know, me and your mom, we don't charge no rent-held, man. We're charging no rent-held, just, oh, or, hey, go out of work for it, man. You know, no way to get yourself in trouble for that stuff.

Right. And what you were right? You know what I'm saying? Shoot, you want to get high to work for it. Work and make all the list, man. If you want to get hired, that's your money you're spending. You know? As you don't got a roof on your damn head.

That's you ain't driving a car with you. I don't got a car now. I still have got them trouble. Anyway, you know. I'm sorry. What was I said? You good? I mean, you feel like we've...

Did you hit all the highlights? You feel like you feel like you're... Are you good with this? Yeah. You feel like you hit all the highlights? Yeah. What do you think? Yeah.

Yeah. Unless you want to know about knowing driver license thing, going on right now. I'm on probation for that shit right now. If you want to know about that shit, and I'll probably be going to jail with that there because I just pissed the dirt of you on that ass last week. So he said, if you want to know about that now, I'll go to jail later on.

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