Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - I Escaped a Life Sentence...

Episode Date: January 30, 2024

I Escaped a Life Sentence...

And my dad always used to tell me if you lay with the dog long enough, you'll get fleas too. Yeah, yeah. So when I first went back to prison the second time, when I first got there and, you know, like I said, it was right before my birthday, my dad passes and all that. It was bad, you know, at that point, I wasn't ready to turn around yet. So, you know, I'm smoking a little bit of weed Smoking some Toonji But then I see everybody smoking the Toonji The K2 shit, whatever

You know, the little spice Well, I see people smoking this shit Then are like Hitting this thing two times And fucking You know, like twacking out They think they're on fire And they think it's

I'm looking I'm like And you're thinking that's a good idea? I said, hey man What's that dink right there doing? What the fuck? I said, bro, he's tripping. You know, these people get butt naked, start fucking slamming their hands on the fucking concrete,

like motherfucking Donkey Kong and shit. It was crazy the shit that I seen. So now, here I am telling dude to give me some spice. So you see this and you think, I got to get some of that. I got to do that. I said to myself, I didn't say it like. that but what I said was god damn I gotta try some of that but I don't I don't want to get butt naked and beat on the ground but this if you fucked up like that you just got to respect the dope

you know what I'm saying if he hit it two times I'm gonna hit it one and a half you know what I'm saying I want to go right before that you know um and thank God that I was able to do that um and like not get that fucked up but I'll tell you it didn't last long and I stopped I said man, I'm not doing this shit. I said, I've seen, I've watched people projectile vomit puke. I've watched people fucking rubbing on themselves, licking at the officers in the officer station. I mean, I've seen it all, you know? I've saved people from dying, you know, holding them on their side so they're not choking on their puke. The shit was crazy. That shit that they spray on that, whatever potpourie leaves that it is, I don't even fucking

No. Has you so fucked up? And then 20 minutes later, you come out of it and you're like, what's up? So I quit. I'm done. Now I'm only smoking 6,180, which is weed. That's what we call it in prison. You're going to get 60 days in the box, 180 days loss of game time. So I'm thinking to myself, well, at least if it's just weed, I should be all right. I ain't going to get butt naked and run laps around the fucking dorm. You know what I'm saying? But I can still get a little buzz. know. But then I stop doing that too because now I'm worried about losing all my gain time, going home later and I'm supposed to. Biz, I don't want to be here. Nobody wants to be in prison. I definitely don't want to be here longer than I have to be because I'm a dip shit that can't stop smoking weed.

Can I ask you a question real quick? So you're about to, so you're getting out. I mean, you've had a bunch of death. Like that's basically your support system is gone. Is that what's happened? Like, are you in prison knowing I'm getting out on my own? Because at least. Because the guys that get out of prison that have a support system that's still there to cushion the blow, like they have a better time. Well, they have a better, it's easier for them to acclimate themselves to society. But if you're getting out and you know, I'm on my fucking own. I don't got a fuck thing.

Right. Okay. So that's the situation. That's the situation. So let me go ahead and rewind a little bit. When my father passed, my stepdad that raised me, that's dad, you know, he raised me since I was nine. we had the house still mortgage five hundred dollars a month five bedroom two story house two thirds of an acre got janet bettina and little robert living there you would think

even being drug addicts because i know what i'm doing i'm going to monopolize and capitalize right now i'm going to rent three bedrooms out for 500 a piece that'll pay electric water cable and the mortgage, right? I'm going to have a few hundred dollars left over to get high. I'm going to have a home that everybody can come over and get high at, which means I can get high off their dope because they're partying at my house. They didn't do none of that. They just ran the shit into the ground.

The house got foreclosed on. I'm getting letters from lawyers saying that the house is trashed and I own $117,000. Well, the way that a mortgage works is, is when mom and dad die, that you're not coming after me for it. That's, I mean, even if they did try to collect the debt from their siblings, I'm not his sibling.

My mother passed, which totally took me away from my stepfather. He never adopted me. I'm the only Soporski in the family. Everybody's a vagal, all right? So when that happened, my mom died, you ain't nothing to me, okay? when I go to prison and now you lawyers keep sending me letters telling me you're going to sue me for this, that, and the other thing.

Yeah, they're just trying to scare you. They don't have a real claim. The first couple letters I wrote them were nice. Hey, look, in paragraph 13, you said Anna R. Vagel died on October 3rd, 2014, leaving any and all interest of the estate of Robert Marshall Vagel to him, right? So now my mom gave her part of the house up, obviously, because she's dead to my father. Well, stepdad. Yeah. Nothing to do with me anymore. You just told me that in paragraph 13 of this big, long letter,

packet of papers that fucking thick that they sent me, right? Well, they're hoping you're not going to figure it out. You're going to try and pay. I don't even know why they would think you were going to pay. You're in prison. Man, I don't know. They must have been doing some of the dope I had before I went to prison because they were definitely high.

I wouldn't pay in a fuck thing. So turn around and I send them a couple letters. They keep sending me back. I keep getting legal mail callouts, you know? So now you're, you're, you're, disturbing my day of being in prison being able to do nothing or go to work and do a little bit of work now i got to go stand in a fucking line whether it's raining cold or what up in the pan handle with a bunch of country ass cracker fuck-ass redneck cops being dicks okay to go wait for

this fuck-ass mail well now i'm standing there waiting on the mail so i get like the fourth packet of papers right so i go to the officer station and i get a visitation list of approval thing, right? I get that. I write another letter. I said, any of you that want to come and see me so we can discuss what we're going to do with the bill of this house, I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to tell you this now, and I'm going to tell you when you get here, when you get approved on the vis-o list. You can eat my dig. Thank you, sincerely, Thomas Soporski, and I bailed that bitch up, went to fucking legal mail one last time, sent that boy out. Never heard from him again. That's your ass, Mr. Polaro. Yeah, that's your ass, Mr. Polsky.

Yeah, that's your ass, Mr. Post, man. I'm done fucking with these people. Like, you keep telling me I owe you $117 grand for this house. You know, the way I look at it is if you're holding the note on the mortgage and the fucking people die, you still got the house and land to sell for the 117. So you better put a fucking sign up in front of that house because you ain't getting a fuck thing for me. That was the collateral for the loan. There's nothing you can't come after.

Right. Even if it doesn't, it doesn't matter. They're not going to. They're hoping they're hoping you're hoping you're hoping you're hoping for it. That's what they're hoping for. Yeah, so I've taught all them fucking people at the lawyer's office, man, I'm not paying you. I don't know what you're talking about. My name is Soporski.

There's his Vajel, fuck you, and the horse you rode in on, you know? So boom, I get out of prison. And my kid's mom, she's remarried. Her husband has adopted my children. He's a disabled vet. They get insurance and schooling and this and that and the other thing. And he's a great guy. I'm a really good friends.

Okay. he that's the same thing with my son he's a my son was adopted by my ex-wife's a new husband same ex-fucking uh he's an ex-marine awesome guy my kids benefit from it and not only did they benefit on it benefit from it I was being an asshole I was fucking up on drugs he's taking care of my kids man I bit the bullet man it sucks but they're my kids I see them all the time now you know what I'm saying I gave my daughter a house to live in I didn't give her a house

but I had rented a house when I got out of prison after first I went and stayed with my baby mom and her husband all right they let me stay in my son's room they gave me in bed they went and bought me clothes

and shoes and you know got me right me and my girlfriend had got back together she went and got me clothes and shoes and cologne and watches and this and that and then we got a house

so we get a house we move into the house and my girlfriend and I have been in a lot of trouble in Pascoe County so she was living in St. Pete at the time she works down at a sports bar down there and

she don't like living up here she's starting to feel like not like she wanted to go relapse or not like that but she feels like all her memories from up here in Pascoe are bad and she wants to and she already's got the fresh start because she's been home for almost three years by

time I get out okay she did a nickel she did five years so she's with a dude she already started over down in St. Pete now we move up she moves back up here with me so we end up kind of breaking up kind of like taking a little break and she moved back down to Clearwater to her friend Breeze house and then we went and got an apartment down in Clearwater So I left the house with my daughter that I was renting, switched the lease over into her name and her boyfriends. In the middle of all that, I got a really good job. Detail cars, assistant manager, making good money, doing the right thing,

staying sober, drink a little bit. That's about it, you know. So we moved down to Clearwater, and we've been doing good ever since, you know. We don't, but we stay away from up here in Pasco, County or up in Pasco County. Again, it's like all the memories, all the past. You know, I go to a gas station because I sold dope or did dope for the last 25 years of my life up there. You always run into somebody.

Right. That knows you from your past. And my dad always used to tell me if you lay with the dog long enough, you'll get fleas too. Yeah, yeah. So it's great. I have the same thing. It's like, look, people are like, oh, you hang out with these guys or do that. No, I don't.

They're like, well, why? If you're not doing anything wrong because it's nothing. Birds of a feather flocked together. Well, that's what the FBI said. Let's say the FBI indicts these five guys and I'm hanging out with them. Let's just add my name to the indictment. So, you know, I don't have to have done anything. Oh, but you didn't do anything.

Doesn't fucking matter. And guess what one of the easiest charges to prove is. Yeah, conspiracy. Well, you were there. Because they talked about it in front of you and now you're getting bent over in the courthouse. And the fact is. is like you got five guys that have been indicted and I'm one of them. You think that

they're not going to say look Cox is saying you didn't have anything to do with it but if you say he did we can help you out like one of my buddies wouldn't be like well fuck how much help like boom just like that and there's nothing I can do. Well listen not for nothing

but loyalty is not there anymore when it comes to stuff like that I've been told on it is what it is I'm not mad at the person that told on me, hey, I did what I did. It is what it is.

I don't care what they did. I don't care that you told on me. I don't care none of that. I don't hold grudges. Hopefully, when you got that break for telling on me, you came out and you did the right thing, and you're doing good now. Like I said, I don't hold grudges.

Shit happens. Some people ain't built for jail. I'm not mad. If it was a situation and you know you're looking at a assload of time and that's what scared people

into doing with it I'm not mad at you man it is what it is I did my time but a motherfucker can't judge somebody if they didn't have that shoe on their foot

and they weren't looking at that man you know it is what it is you know how many here's what kills me like how much time total did you do all the charge your charges

everything in in all I did 1129. I did 60 days, 90 days. This is county time. I did I did 60 days, 90 days, nine months, 1129, 38 months, and then just 54 months. So right at nine years. Nine years. What kills me is how many times you got on a bond. Like in the feds like you're just not getting out on bond. Like you go like you might if you were the first time you got arrested, they they would probably let you like if it wasn't a serious. discharge, but all your stuff was pretty serious, with serious charges. Yeah, I didn't have, listen, okay, so

But the state, they'll let you out. And the state, depending upon the county, Pascoe County used to be sweet. You used to be able to get out on bond as long as you were bonded out. Not ROR, not none of that release on owner-recognin's shit, all right? Because then when you go back in front of the judge

and advisories, they say you were on RR, we're pulling your bond on that ROR. Once they pull that bond on ROR, you can't get that bond back and get an amount on that bond. It's a zero bond until you go in front of the judge for these charges plus that charge. Okay. Well, now when you get re-arrested while you're out on bond, they're pulling your bond on your original charge. So I actually duped the system one time. Um, I had got arrested for driving on suspended habitual to, um, of a controlled substance. I had two different kinds of...

I had oxycodones and hydromorphone, which is dilaudits in my pocket when I got arrested. And I got arrested and boned out. Well, then... No, no, no. I'm lying. I'm lying. Hold on. Let me back up. I got... I had a driving on suspended a bitch while I was on a bond for. Okay? Then I get into

an argument with this fucking bitch going down the street. Her boyfriend's yelling at my homeboy in the front seat. I'm sitting in the back with my girlfriend. And, uh, I got a broken leg. I had wrecked my motorcycle and shit and broke my leg. Actually, my friend's motorcycle, but that's irrelevant. I roll

the window down and I'm trying to tell the dude pull over. I'm going to beat your ass with this broken with the broken leg, bitch. I'm going to beat you with this crutch. Fuck boy, pull over. I'm going to break your neck. So they wouldn't pull over. I don't know why. So, of course, my dumb ass stands up with a broken leg, half cast on my

leg, pulls my pants down to my ankles and throws the whole fruit basket out the window at this dude, right? So I moon this person. And you know how Chrysler 300 or a lot of cars. The window only go down and there'll be like this much window sticking up. Right. I had my pants so far down

and pushed my ass so far out the window that I fell all my shit and slap on the recoil. Okay? So I moon this lady and her husband. All right? This is not good right here. This is bad. So this is when I had the hydromorphone. Bro, that could be like a sex

charge. It was. Watch this. So listen. So I got the hydromorphone. allotids and I got the oxycodone 30s, the blues, and my pocket. Bottles fucking so deteriorated. Their label's been in and out and opened up so many times, putting all the new pills and shooting all the old, you know, it's fucked. So boom, I fucking.

And that's done just so that if you get caught, you can say I have a prescription. They're in the bottle. Even though you've been buying them. It's been worn out, you know? I can't help that. You know what I'm saying? It's like your wife's getting worn out right now. Well, we're getting your recipe officer.

Fuck you, you know? So I turn around And I dump the The pills in my cast The dude in the front seat that I'm sticking up for This whole time mooning this bitch Showing her the goat Okay

Has a kid in the back seat, bro Boom, they pull us I'm dumping the pills down my cast Throwing the bottle on the floor I tell my dog JJ I threw the bottle on the floor But it's empty, don't worry about it I got them in my cast Bro I don't give a fuck

It's all good bro don't worry about it Boom They come up they pulled dude out the car they pull my girlfriend out the car they pull him out the car they leave me back there well that's because the lady and the and the boyfriend told the cops that the guy on the passenger side in the back just showed us his old fruit basket you know what i mean right so next thing you know they're fucking putting me in cuffs telling me that my friend told on me about everything i'm telling i don't know what you're talking about anybody blah blah blah right well now the cop comes back and he shows me the written statement that Jesse Smith wrote on me, okay? This little fucking weasel, okay? Here I am helping him make money, taking people to the doctor with him

so he can make some money too because I'm already, you know, okay, I'm straight. So I'm helping this little cocksucker out. And he tells on me, I wrote a statement on me, and I see it with my own eyes. The cop shows me, which is usually a no-no. The cop usually don't show you. He showed me.

so the bad thing is is an eye for an eye okay so the kid had just went to the pharmacy and got two scripts from two different people he had probably about 165 pills on him he had 80 blues and he had 80 dilaudits and he had some Xanax so he dumps him off in his shoe when we're getting pulled over

well you just told on me you wrote a statement on me the cop showed me this isn't the cop playing good cop, bad cop. Yeah, I see the statement. I see the statement. So guess what?

Why don't you go search that little faggot motherfucker that just wrote that statement? Fucking, you faggot-ass copper. Goes over there. Hey, buddy, take off your shoe. Dumps out the Pez dispenser. You know? He got wrapped up with two trafficking charges.

You know what I'm saying? Now he's running around telling everybody how I told on him and I ratted him out and this, that, and the other thing. So now his brother, wants to fight me he wants to fight me but they'll never meet me anywhere I told him whatever you want to do you know where I live you know I get my this day no not anymore is the scene now I showed his brother the statement the statement

that he wrote because I got my discovery this was before I went back to prison the second time I tell his brother look bro you want to fight me bro that's whatever I'm down I'll fight both y'all at the same time but look he told all me and then I told on him. It's an eye for an eye, bitch. Right. So, obviously, his brother was cool with me after that. What happened with the, what happened with

the flash and the people? Okay, so back to that. Sorry, sometimes I bounce around a little bit. So, I get those charges for the pills and they give me a ludin lascivious axe on a minor under 16.

So, I get a lewdin lascivious axe on a minor, but they did drop it down to disorderly conduct because yeah there was no intent yeah yeah yeah I didn't even know there was a kid in the back seat and all I did was mooned I didn't I didn't go over there and play with my dick in front of it I'm not a fucking scumbag I got kids and I can't stand people that touch kids and all that I was simply trying to piss this dude off enough to get him to pull over so I could bust his ass that's all I was trying to do meanwhile back at the ranch I get fucked up

with an L&L charge but like I said you can look at my record it's dropped down to a disorderly conduct. So this is how I dup the system. Like, that's what this all started from. I duped the system. So they take my bond for getting new charges while out on bond. I got that driving on suspended habitual. I got prescriptions for these pills.

So I got to get my doctor to give me a note or letter saying that I have a prescription for these two pills. Right. I do that. Now I got to get this disorderly conduct drop. It's a misdemeanor. So I'm allowed to plea out to that now I only have one bond back right one charge back So I did seven something months in jail fighting this shit and I get out bond again because my one charge was only there now

You know what I mean but yeah they they um they started taking your bond now once you accumulate a couple charges They take it right away you know and again just so everybody knows not no show mobe, not no pedophile, I don't touch kids. It was a simple ha ha, I mooned you. Yeah, people don't, here's the problem is that people don't, well, I'm saying, people don't realize people think, oh, you've got a sex chart, wait a minute, you're saying, you can, you can be, you can moon somebody and they'll say, oh, that's a sex charge that, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, don't, don't get fucking

crazy, okay? Read the black and white, dick sucker. Right, well, I mean, that's what you got to do. Well, I'm not even charging in, I'm not talking about this, obviously, I know what happened. It's just silly, but people will, guys will do. stupid or silly things, even just fucking around with each other. Do you know? And get fucked up for no reason and then they have to... Okay, so look, this is how my lawyer got the charges

drop. I was going to say bring that up and show how the system can literally put a charge on you. Yeah. I've seen guys that were charged with shit for... So, with that being said, my lawyer goes into the state's attorney's office. Bro, I didn't have to give him no money or nothing. This is like a friend of

the family. Oh, Keith Hammond. Great dude. goes in and he basically has a circle of people that he, you know, the district attorney, the state's attorney that he's talking to and he's like, listen, this man

mooned somebody pull his pants down, showed him his ass, ha ha, you, you, you, you, me and you have all moon

somebody in our life. It's a ha-ha, kiss my. ass it was nothing to do with the child yeah yeah so they dropped it down well here's the thing too like in that case it's like do you really want to go to trial because every half the people on the trial have done this or in the jury they're never going to convict them no but the cops will actually try and get you to plead guilty to it like you're seriously going to try and get me to plead guilty and the bad thing about it is I didn't even get to the very bad part I just got released from

prison like a fucking year and a half ago guess what prison release reoffender. Sex charge. First degree felony. Huh. Life. So, I mean, the severity of what it sounded like

and what it really was could have fucked me up if it would have been what they were saying it was. But it wasn't. Right. I moon somebody. Well, listen to this.

I got just real quick and we can wrap it up. I knew a guy in prison who was dating a chick when he was, like they started date when they're like 15 years old, right? Well, she was like, I think she was 15 and he was, let's say, she's 15, he's 16.

No big deal. You know, typically a year or two at that age between the person you're dating. Right, right. She's 15, he's 16. Obviously, cell phones are out. You know, they start having sex. They dated for like two years in high school. That's a long fucking time in high school.

So they're both almost adults now. Right. Well, they're taking pictures. They take pictures of each other having sex. He has pictures of her blowing him, pictures of her tits. She has pictures of him. all kinds of stuff on their phones, right? They sex each other pictures.

Suddenly, he turns 18, they're like 18 or 19, I think. And he finds out she fucks one of his buddies. So he gets, just like I would at 19 years old, I'd be fucking furious. Hot-headed, ready to bust somebody. Absolutely. So what does he do? He takes some of the raunchiest photos of her. And post them everywhere.

And start shooting them to all of her friends. And everybody they know from. high school. And he got jammed up. He did seven years. He went to trial because he was so sure he was like, I haven't done anything wrong. I mean, I should have done it, but you guys are trying to get me, they were saying, look, plead guilty to a sex charge, registered. He's like, are you out of your fucking mind? This is a kid. The lawyers, they're all like, look, you got a problem here. He said, I'm not going to do that. He goes to trial. He loses. He gets seven years. I watched him.

I knew him for about five years. They called him Harry Potter, because that's what he looked like Harry Potter. you know how many Harry Potter's I've seen in jail? That's crazy. Somebody's always a fucking Harry Potter. And he played... Little faggots. He played, um...

He played a ping pong for fucking... I watched him for five years, play ping pong. That's how he did his time. And he was a beast. Oh, he was amazing. He liked playing with little balls. Just kidding. See? See how mean?

See how mean? I'm just kidding, y'all. But yeah, so yeah, he left. Just kidding. Yeah, but yeah, same thing. Like anything that you think you'd do, anybody would do just being a dickhead and you, his fucking life is irrevocably fucking just yeah because listen I had a guy

okay he was unforgiven he was in prison with me what does that mean unforgiven is a prison gang white power something most of them are soft and I'll tell them that to their face at any rate I was in prison with a dude

but really what it is is they're scared and they hide behind their little fucking shit because they won't say the end bomb in front of the first black person white person brown person yellow person or nothing they're soft as fuck and most of them are fucking punk so that's how it really goes and if you don't like it come see me at any rate um this dude had got a sex charge he was in a bar public place drinking chicken there drinking had a fake ID gets wrapped up for getting a blow job from this and ends up getting him in trouble

and she turned around and went to the state and said that he didn't know I had a fake ID blah blah blah this had the other thing and guess what the dude did 15 years about that shit and the state's attorney and the judge in trial said negligence is not accepted in the state of Florida when it comes to this type of charge

and that motherfucker did 15 years about that pussy asshole with a fake ID I'd have killed that bitch I'd have killed that bitch All right, absolutely let's go ahead and go All right if you like the video You don't do any of this do you

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