Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - ICE Fraud Exposed: How Deportations Fuel Massive Scams

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Starting point is 00:00:30 We have the massive deportations. This is the part that a lot of people don't understand. People are saying, well, if you're going to get rid of me, then what I'm going to do is I'm going to get in debt. Now you have these organizations. Are you about to get deported? Yeah. We'll get you the loan.

Starting point is 00:00:42 It's a new industry that has been created. It's going to be really, really, really, really bad. So, Matt, welcome to my podcast. This is the Juan Sanchez and Matthew Cox's True Crime Podcast. And today we're going to be talking about Venezuela. Is it true? Do you think that the government is long? wandering possibly a lot of people.

Starting point is 00:01:01 Impossible. Impossible. That never happens in South America. Listen, it's an interesting, it's a trending topic right now because I think a lot of people are confused. They don't know how to feel about it or what to feel about it, especially if you're an American. I mean, I think, I don't think you knew where Venezuela was until you met me.

Starting point is 00:01:22 No. No. I think you thought it was like a brand of a candy or something. And we have had this government. down in Venezuela since 1998. So it's been 27 years of dictatorship. Originally it was Chavez. He died in 2013.

Starting point is 00:01:39 Then Nicolas Maduro was appointed by him. He was a bus driver before, and which, you know, it qualifies you. Yeah. So he was a bus driver. Then he became the president, and he has this, like, pyramid under him. Dios Dado Cabello, who is held many positions,

Starting point is 00:01:58 like Speaker of the House, the equivalent of it, you know, Presidente de la Samblesa is what it's called National Assembly. We had Delci right now who was the vice president. Before that it was Al-Tarik Saad, which was not a

Starting point is 00:02:13 Venezuelan name. It was the former vice president. They move officials back and forth. And I think there is a misconception. People think that Venezuela moves drugs or produces drugs. We don't produce drugs. We don't produce. We happen to

Starting point is 00:02:30 the distribution center, like the FedEx of drugs, you know, they all come in. The military controls the country. Right. And then they allow the planes to fly freely across the United States. So without being getting into politics, I think what got Maduro removed was, first of all, the war on drugs that they're fighting right now. Right. Which they want to stop the income.

Starting point is 00:03:00 of drugs into the United States. Right. Only Pfizer can do that. Only they can bring drugs into the United States and provide them to the American population. And oil. We have the largest oil reserve in the world. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:03:15 If we didn't have any oil, we will still have Maduro in power. Well, you know, yeah. So I have the flu. I don't have a problem with that. So I have the flu, and it's 2 o'clock in the morning. and I'm like having these hallucinations in the middle of feverish night

Starting point is 00:03:34 it's January 3rd. And I get into my Instagram account and they're bombing Caracas. There's like F-16s flying and I'm like, holy fuck. Caracas is under siege, you know? And then I pass out and then I wake up in the morning and Maduro is now in the United States and is arrested with his wife. And I'm like, what happened? What does that fuck happen?

Starting point is 00:04:00 You know, a couple weeks ago they were there and now they're here. And I think a lot of people don't understand what we're celebrating. There's a lot of people that don't understand why the United States is even there. And for us, Venezuelans, we are celebrating until we're not celebrating anymore. Meaning they remove the dictator, but they allowed the system to remain the same. We're still under a dictatorship. Nothing has changed. People are still getting murder,

Starting point is 00:04:34 detained, there's no freedom of speech, you know? They moved the vice president to president, and it's just as bad. However, they are doing oil export arrangements with the United States. So on that end, there's going to be money coming into the country,

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Starting point is 00:06:20 Like everybody, you know, oh, they hate Trump. They hate this. They all, it doesn't mean this. It doesn't mean that. It's not what you think. I get it. But Trump took office. He closed the border.

Starting point is 00:06:31 He starts blowing up these drug boats. He lets everybody know he's serious. And I'll let drug boats. Stop it. Stop it. I'm just saying it. Come on. Nobody's, no, stop.

Starting point is 00:06:43 We're not going to do a list of them. I've never seen, I've never seen a fishing boat with four, four. At two o'clock in the morning, it's the best time to fish. Four engines packed with big, with 16 large massive. You've never gone with that much bait. You know. But the drug deaths since literally like the week after Trump took office and closed the border and starts blowing up drug boats.

Starting point is 00:07:09 And I'm not saying he's been blowing him up the whole time. But since they basically shut down the route, drug deaths have dropped all the way to a low of the 1990s. Like, if you look at the graph, it just dropped off the chart. Oh, it's insane. But what, but let me ask you this, if Venezuela didn't have oil? Because we're not producing any drugs. I mean, you could have gone after Colombia. No, no, I agree.

Starting point is 00:07:34 I'm just saying, I just think in general, they would probably have still blown up the boats. It's fun. But I think they would have blown up the boats. But do I think there's an incentive to do that, to then say, hey, they're sending. Obviously, there's, there's, there are, there, there are, there, there are, allowing their air, land, and sea to be traversed by drug dealers. They're renting the space or allowing them to go through. They're charging them a small fee or a large fee.

Starting point is 00:08:01 Who knows? Allowing them to use Venezuela to move the product. I mean, that's a given. And so that's what they're using as a pretext to say, hey, let's remove Maduro, which has been indicted for what, like 10 years or. Or something, right? Maduro's indictment, yeah, was, no, he was indicted on 2020. But the indictment, the case is 2011 case.

Starting point is 00:08:26 Okay. Because we have a, there is a guy that is currently in custody, which is Hugo Carbajal. Okay. Polo is his nickname. The chicken. The chicken. Yeah. He was the director of military intelligence.

Starting point is 00:08:39 The chicken? The chicken was a powerful man. The chicken got two DEA agents killed under the custody in Venice. Yeah, that's not a good thing. No. And he just, he just pled guilty on June 2025th. So he's about to get sentenced. To drug trafficking.

Starting point is 00:08:56 A bunch of shit. But he's going to get a 5K1 because, you know, Maduro came in. Right, because he obviously helped get him indicted. He obviously helped get him and indict him. Yeah, that's all over the indictment. You know, you know how it is. Yeah. Everything is public.

Starting point is 00:09:08 And your expertise in this is that you had a case of money laundering, and the money laundering was predominantly done in connection with, not predominant, basically, it was the government. It was, right? This is, yeah, I mean. Let's mention that real quick. Well, we don't have to mention that. We have to go deep into that. And let me tell you why.

Starting point is 00:09:33 You get rid of the drug problem, but there's been so much money coming into the United States for so many years, consequence of that problem. Right. That I think now you're going to have to monitor what the hell. is going on with this thing. For example, I was in real estate. A lot of the money from the government was brought in by third parties that were investors. Yeah. In real estate. Who were they in reality? And there were like money launders for the government, you know, judges, prosecutors. We call them enchufados. If anybody is from Venezuela and is watching this podcast, they're going to understand

Starting point is 00:10:10 what I'm saying. Enchufados mean plugged in. They were plugged in. Right. So they were connected in the government. Somebody's brother, somebody's sister, somebody's... So they will fly into Miami mostly. Now Texas is the latest in New York, and they will buy these mansions. Cash. You know, million, 1.2, 1.3.

Starting point is 00:10:30 Or I will wire the money and I'll find... Do sellers financing for a year. Do sellers financing for two years. And we're all in the sales industry. You know, you want to buy me a house that is worth $800,000 for $1.2 million? Go for it. Cash? I have no problem with that. Right. So a big portion of Miami-Venezuelan-owned business is owned by,

Starting point is 00:10:53 it has been fed, it has been sponsored by this kind of money. Now there's not going to be any more of that money. And there's going to be a plethora of snitching. Right. We're seeing it right now. We're seeing it right now where there's car dealerships that are under investigation, restaurant chains that are under investigation. So it's, it's, this thing is going to have an impact in the economy of the United States. But that was your, I'm saying that was your case. And I was a realtor, not a realtor, but I had a real estate company. Right.

Starting point is 00:11:25 That was involved into selling these properties to these people or even using that money to grow my company. Right. Okay. Or to, for my own personal purposes. Right. All right. And so, I mean, that's how you, you thoroughly understand how that mechanism works where

Starting point is 00:11:42 you're obtaining, you're getting money from the government of, Venezuela, and then you're supposed to be purchasing vehicles, boats, whatever, and then you get them shipped back over there so that they can use them or sell them or do whatever they're going to do. That's a way to transfer. And I was one player. Right. But imagine you open a dealership because you have these 10 people coming once a month buying 15

Starting point is 00:12:08 range rovers. Right. Your dealership is booming. Maybe you're opening two, three, four, or five. you know in two years you have a whole franchise of dealerships and now they tell you not anymore that's it you're done there's no more money coming your way okay you're going on there yeah yeah period you know these houses they pay a shit lot of money in taxes insurance maintenance right now they're sitting empty in doral which is a uh i'm they're probably going to kill me when they see this

Starting point is 00:12:35 in deraul which is an area of miami there is most venezuelans live in doral western you know there's plenty of houses that are now sitting empty. Because these poor people. Oh, listen, you go, dude, the parts of Miami. I don't think, listen, I didn't even know this, like until I, the few times I've been to Miami recently, and my wife and I have stopped to go to a restaurant, we pull in, and the girl who's 16, 17 years old, behind the counter, speaks no English. I mean, literally, I'm asking, I'm asking for a fork. Can I get a fork? And she's like, fork? And she's looking around, like she rang up the food

Starting point is 00:13:14 and I'm like I'm pointing and I'm sitting there thinking and myself you're living in Miami in an area of Miami you don't know zero you know zero English

Starting point is 00:13:26 like and you drive an expensive car and you have a nice house and not comprehend there how did you get all this shit yeah how are you how are you behind the how are you guys like because there's so much of that area that just none of them speak

Starting point is 00:13:40 or they all speak Spanish at the very least she can function. She didn't really leave the area. And it's a, listen, I'm Latino, obviously. And I've been in the United States for 38 years. And I'm an ex-comvict. So I'm like the combination of all things. Dude, it's hard to justify some things.

Starting point is 00:14:00 You know, like, I understand why you don't want that population here. But there was also a benefit. for having them here. You know, the money was coming in left and right. Business was booming. Real estate was out of control. Prices were incredible. People were blowing money left and right.

Starting point is 00:14:25 But the crime got out of control, too. You got the, I mean, I've known you for many years. When I first did this podcast five years ago, none of you knew what the trend of the Aragua was, which is the biggest Venezuelan gang there is. I mean, dangerous pieces of shit people. Now a lot of people know who they are, TDA. Because they came here.

Starting point is 00:14:47 They were allowed in the country. And they were, like, killing a bunch of people. I'm not a part of that gang. I don't even know anybody that is part of the gang. However, now I'm put into the same box because they are from Venezuela. So it's kind of, it's complicated. Well, it's funny. It's super fucking complicated.

Starting point is 00:15:06 You always hear, like, that Miami was built on drug money, you know? Yeah, like the building. The 80s and, you know, Pablo Escobar and what was the other name, Grisela Blanco. Yeah. You know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, that, that, that bridge. And now you have the other, it's close. It's super metropolitan.

Starting point is 00:15:26 And it's Latino. Yeah, yeah. There's tons of, like, you, you can, like you said, you could go there, you don't have to know English. You can, you can, you can function. You can survive there. I come to Tampa and I'm like. And it's beautiful.

Starting point is 00:15:36 it's cooler what people don't realize too is like if you go to Tampa and it's 95 degrees and you go to Miami like it's like 85 degrees it's because of where it's located because of the it's super cool yeah super it's not much nicer

Starting point is 00:15:52 it's much nicer beautiful women not that you see because because you have you know you only have eyes for one yeah I don't I don't yeah but beautiful women beautiful people I mean very very Latin music everywhere is just

Starting point is 00:16:05 it's a Fun place. And Brickle? Brickel's like a cleaner, newer version of Manhattan. And fun. Yeah. You walk around Brickle and you're like, man, this is really, really cool. Like 80, 90% of the cars are European sports cars.

Starting point is 00:16:22 Lambo's. Yeah, American supercar. Like, it's like every, you know, never seen so many. Lamborghinis, Ferraris, Porsches, you know, Mazurot. Like, they're just, they're everywhere. And people are dressed up. I mean, it's kind of out of control. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:16:35 So then you have another issue right now, which is we have to get rid of everybody. Listen, we have to get rid of all the drugs and we have to get rid of all the Latinos. So now we have the massive deportations and we have the rates and we have ICE and the Latinos that are here are scared. I have friends that haven't left their house in two weeks because they're scared. You know, ICE is doing the rounds and I don't know. And they're not undocumented. But now you don't have to be undocumented to be picked up. If you're, you know, you're brown.

Starting point is 00:17:09 You're brown, you're suspicious. That's why I stop going on to the beach. I'm trying to bleach myself. I'm doing the Michael Jackson thing. Are they really scared? If they're here legally, why don't they just, if they're here legally, why don't they just bring their pay? And I know it's horrible, it's a horrible thing to say. Because there's many levels of legal status.

Starting point is 00:17:28 Okay. Like there is TPS, which was canceled. There is asylum, which right now they will take you in, even with an asylum application. There is, you know, you got visas, F1, H1B, L1, then you have legal permanent residents and then you have United States citizens. Right now they're not respecting,

Starting point is 00:17:47 not everybody, because I'm not going to say that every ICE agent is like that, but they're not respecting that kind of situation, you know? To grab them, drag them in, let the administration figure it out. Which sometimes you have to take those measures. I remember New York with Giuliani. If you remember when Giuliani first got to New York,

Starting point is 00:18:03 it was like, you put them in prison, and then you ask them and then you release them. So people were against it. Fuck, but those were the golden years of New York. Yeah, but it cleaned it up pretty quick. Manhattan, when I moved to New York, you could pass out on Central Park and you were safe. You know, now you can't pass out on Central Park,

Starting point is 00:18:22 but you're going to be a couple times, two or three times. Maybe robbed. Maybe robbed. Maybe robbed. I mean, listen, if you got robbed and you didn't get robbed, it's embarrassing. It says a lot about you.

Starting point is 00:18:33 It says a lot about you. So now they're pulling all these scams because it's just, that's just the system. So people are saying, well, if you're going to get rid of me, then what I'm going to do is I'm going to get in debt. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm going to get some credit cards and I'm going to get some loans and I'm going to get some money. So if I leave the United States, I'll make sure I leave the United States and I have money with me. Right.

Starting point is 00:19:01 You know? Because while I'm getting the loans, I'm still. here and technically I'm allowed to be here. So they kind of know like I'm here and I have like you're here you probably have some credit, maybe even great credit. Fantastic credit. So like let's say you've bought a house or maybe I haven't bought a house. Maybe you just have great credit. I've had three cars. I've made all the payments. I got a couple credit cards and you know, hey, I'm probably going to get deported here very soon. I'm legal. Let me get more credit cards. Let me run these fuckers up because how hard is it to get $50,000 worth of credit cards? That's easy. Go get.

Starting point is 00:19:35 Three personal loans, that's another 50, $60,000. You get about $20,000. That's about $60,000. And then that's if that, by the way, that's easy. Yeah, that's if you don't put any work. Right. If you really make an effort, you can easily get $150, $200,000. Yeah, $200,000, maybe more.

Starting point is 00:19:53 So what they're doing is saying, well, $200,000, I'll go home. I'll see you. Right. If they grab me and catch me if you can. You can collect. You deported me. Grab the, or even better, get the $2,500 and just show up on your own. Because if you have $200,000, if you have $200,000 and you show them.

Starting point is 00:20:09 They're not really paying the $2,500, right? Are they? I'm assuming they are paying. They're not paying. What are they giving you? What are they doing is they're not giving you shit. You go to the app and you tell them, like, listen, I want to self-deport. And they go, okay, where are you at?

Starting point is 00:20:23 And you're like, well, I'm here. And I want to self-deport. And they say, okay, perfect. Will you just tell us where you're at and we're going to send somebody to do the paperwork. And then they send somebody, they pick them up, they put them on detention, and then they deport them. No. No, the United States government would not trick you. No.

Starting point is 00:20:39 That's not true. I'm not going to sit here and listen to you say that the United States government would do something underhanded. That's untrue. You know, it's... But let's assume. Let's assume. So you say, hey. I suggest we report Colby and try it out.

Starting point is 00:20:53 I want a free ticket back to Venezuela. With my $2,500. Right, $2,500. But you also have $200,000 already in the bank or ready to go or whatever. You show up in Venezuela with 200,000. What is the equivalent? What's that like showing up here? To have a good lifestyle, because you may not even want to go to Venezuela.

Starting point is 00:21:13 With 200,000, you may say, I'm going to Cambodia. Nice. Or I'm going to whatever. Right. But in Latin America, you can have a good lifestyle with about between three and $4,000 a year. A solid good lifestyle. Three or four thousand? You're talking about a May.

Starting point is 00:21:31 I mean, a month. I'm sorry. Oh, I was going to say a year. I mean, you could, in some countries, you could have it a year, but three to four thousand a month. So you'll have a maid and you'll have, you know, your landscaper, your nice place. You go it out about two to three times a week. You're not going to be rich, but you're middle, upper middle class. Could you buy a business or start a business with 100,000 or 50 or 100,000?

Starting point is 00:21:54 This is the downside. Business in Latin America is not like the United States. In the United States, everybody has 20 bucks. So you can open a business that you sell diet pills for $11.99. And you're going to have 1,000 people, fat people buying the pills, even if they don't work. Right. So $11,000 that you made in a month. And then they say, well, the pills didn't work and they throw them away and that's it.

Starting point is 00:22:19 In Latin America, no lot of people have $11 or $20 to pay. Right. So for that business to work, you either have to target the really rich people or the American people. and that's why you have a lot of products right now where the company that sells them are outside of the United States but the product is sold in the United States. So you're making money here where you're living somewhere else,

Starting point is 00:22:44 plus your 200 grand that you took with you. So it's it's it. Listen, the plan is not about, I mean, not the scam about the credit, but the plan about making money here and living somewhere else is not that bad. The problem is most people that came here and stayed here, didn't learn English. Listen, if you go back to any Latin American country

Starting point is 00:23:04 and you teach English for a living, you're going to make a good money. You're going to make a shit lot of money. AI, video editing, a YouTube channel. I mean, all kinds of stuff. You can make two or three grand a month. Look at you. You're probably making about 1,500 bucks a month.

Starting point is 00:23:22 Yeah, almost 1,500. Almost 1,500. You could live very well in Latin America with your little YouTube channel that you have going. here. Or, Thailand or Cambodia.

Starting point is 00:23:34 Or Cambodia. We know some people that have gone to Cambodia. Yeah. Yeah. JJ right now is living in a place that is fucking sweet

Starting point is 00:23:41 for like $720 a month. So we were just talking on the break. I feel like I'm on a TV station. When the break? On the commercial break, we were talking about

Starting point is 00:23:50 what if Venezuela becomes a 51st state. I love it. And I'm like, shit, sign me up, you know? But it won't. Why?

Starting point is 00:23:59 Why would you want? You'd be importing a lot of problems, right? Yeah, it's like saying, listen, I have this stupid kid that comes and cleans my house. Do I want to adopt him? I don't know. Is he going to clean the house better when you adopt him? No. So, fuck it.

Starting point is 00:24:14 So you're having the oil. Venezuela's reaching gold. Venezuela is, I mean, we are an amazing country with a huge set of problems. Well, I mean, before Chavez took over, they were, I forget what it was. It was like, whatever, it was like 100,000 barrels a day or so. And I'm sure I've got the... Yeah, it was five million barrels a day. Five million, five, did I just said 100.

Starting point is 00:24:39 I thought 100,000 was a lot. Five million, okay. So it went from like five... To 100,000 barrels. Yeah. I mean, drop down like, I thought it had done like an 80% drop, but that's, yeah. Dude, it's insane. Maduro, and I said this in the other episode,

Starting point is 00:24:54 Maduro has a hundred billion dollars worth of gold. in a Swiss bank account that was just seized by the United States. And you sit there and you go, what the fuck do you come up with that much money? Yeah. You know? You steal it from the country, from the people. We had 8 million people leave Venezuela since Chavez.

Starting point is 00:25:18 Right. So that's a whole nation. And we have a prison. This is the part that a lot of people don't understand. We have a prison called El Elicoide, which I don't know how you translate, The helicoid, I guess? I don't know.

Starting point is 00:25:32 The what? Helicoid. Helicoid, okay. No, no, we're going to have to GPT that at some point. But it's called a leicoide. So when you go there, the kind of tortures that they put you under, it's insane.

Starting point is 00:25:49 Like, one of the things they do is they will make you play dominoes against another inmate, two inmates. Whoever loses the game, gets punished. So you have the guards watching you to see who's going to lose the game. If you lose the game, then they will pull your teeth out, or

Starting point is 00:26:12 they will pull your nails out, or they will tie you up to a pipe and leave you tied up there for a couple days, or, you know, I mean, there's people dying daily there. We just had a lady, a mother died in front of that prison, waiting for her child to be

Starting point is 00:26:28 released because the Venezuelan government promised the United States that they were going to release all the political prisoners and they haven't done it. And these mother stood there for about two to three days and he just passed out, she just passed away from a heart attack, waiting for her kid to leave.

Starting point is 00:26:45 These are kids that are 18, 19, 19, 20 years old. Never saw her kid live. I mean, the kid's probably dead inside. Right. It's insanity. What we have there is torture. And that hasn't stopped. It's still going on.

Starting point is 00:26:58 They will grab your phone. tell you, let me see your WhatsApp. See, oh, you sent a message to the United States? Yeah, they take you in. So everybody has deleted their WhatsApp. That way, nobody knows that you have contacts with people in the United States. It's a rough, it's a rough situation. Okay, so.

Starting point is 00:27:20 So we want to be the 51st state. I was thinking about corruption. I think that Puerto Rico has tons of corruption, and it's not a state, but I mean, it's a territory. It should be a state, or it should be kind of. loose. One or the other. You know, the, the position it's in now is, is ridiculous. Because at least if it was a state, the U.S. would be able to come in and at least try and clean up the, you know, all of the corruption that's going on there, right? So if, and as far as Venezuela, like, I know the United States wants to go in there. They want to get the oil pumping. They want to get it going.

Starting point is 00:27:53 Just from researching it, you know, initially I was like, I don't understand, like, Chavez took it over and it dropped. Why did he drop it? But what I realized, what I found out was that when he came over or came into power or seized power, he immediately nationalized all of these companies and took them from like, you know, shell and, you know, the multiple, God, it was shell. I used to know the name of all. There was like three major ones. Seed go, shells. I mean. So he takes, so they took those, the pumping stations, the refining, everything over. And, and, and, he, he takes, he takes, so they took those, thinking, you know, because he didn't know anything about oil, he's thinking to himself, I'm going to take that over and that, now we'll take all of that income. The problem is the

Starting point is 00:28:39 people that were running those stations immediately jumped on ships and planes and flew back to the United States. Houston, Texas. Right. And very quickly, when things went wrong, they didn't know, it wasn't just fixing the problem, but they didn't know the techniques and the science behind pumping the oil. And very quickly, as things went wrong, they were unable to fix them. And I'll give you an example of this, because this is the first thing I thought about. Because there are some things you hear,

Starting point is 00:29:08 you hear and you think, oh, okay, well, that's duplicatable, right? But an example would be China built an aircraft carrier. And people were like, oh, my gosh, they have an aircraft carrier. We have, whatever, we have, six or eight or ten of them. I don't know how many we have. And they were,

Starting point is 00:29:26 and if you go on YouTube and look at it, it up, look up the people that are talking about the aircraft carrier. The problem is there, it's almost impossible for them to take off and land on the aircraft carrier. And here's the thing. You would think, well, what's the problem? I mean, is it non-function? No, no, it functions fine. Timu aircraft? Well, no, it's, it works fine. The problem is it's a matter of having done it in the past, right? You have to have experience doing this. And so you have to be trained by experience pilots who have to then take off and land on aircraft carriers. And then when they leave, they're constantly training your training through experience.

Starting point is 00:30:07 It's much more difficult than you think. And you have to be able to pass on that experience. And it's not like going into a simulator. They make it look easy. They make it look easy because we've been doing it for 100 years. Yeah. So we're not 100 years. Whatever, 80 years.

Starting point is 00:30:22 So the point is, is that they don't have anybody to train them. They're wrecking left and right. They don't have the system down. They understand the basics. But the aircraft carriers aren't able, the pilots aren't nearly as good as the United States at landing and taking off from the aircraft carrier. This is something that's been passed on through just through generation after generation of pilots and the suppliers and the people that move the plane.

Starting point is 00:30:48 And you have a system that works and can be talked. Right. But they don't have it. So it's the same thing when this is what it made me think of the oil. is that you can read about it. It's like reading about writing a bike. But you're not going to be able to know it until you know it. Yeah, you have to write.

Starting point is 00:31:04 And then on top of that, hold are you, Colby? 31. 31. If Colby was Venezuelan, the only system he knows is the dictatorial system. Right. He doesn't know the stories about when we were a free country and you could walk around and it was safe and there was money and we were rich and we will come to the United States

Starting point is 00:31:24 and buy whatever the hell we wanted and there was no gangs. No, Colby knows what he knows right now. He went to school and they taught him Chavez is good and Maduro is good and you have to fight for your... So there is a generation that doesn't know any better. So they're not even striving to change, make a change. They don't know any better. But right now we have a revival. This sounds weird and maybe your audience because I doubt your audience is mostly Latino.

Starting point is 00:31:50 There is not a better moment right now to be Venezuelan. I mean, we are so proud of our country and we're so proud of our country and we're so proud of what we're doing. And we have a lady called Maria Corina Machado. I don't know if you know who she is. Is she the one who the elected president? Well, she's really, they didn't let her run. So she puts a figure to run for her and he won.

Starting point is 00:32:13 Okay. But she's the one that got the Nobel Prize. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And came in here and, you know, gave it, gave it to you guys because you want it, but we won. It's ours. No, but she's an amazing woman. And she's been, like, fighting for the last 20 years.

Starting point is 00:32:28 And so there is, we have a very few, but powerful people right now that have made us feel very proud of who we are as Venezuelans. But then we have a shit, a lot of people that are worth a shit. And they're the ones that kind of bring us down. These military, the politicians, the criminals. But aren't they the ones in power? Yes. So that's the problem. So unless you remove all that, it doesn't matter, you know.

Starting point is 00:32:54 But you're going to say going to get cheap oil, which is going to put you, but it's going to put you in a great. A great position, you won't be dependent from Saudi Arabia anymore because we have more oil than they do. You will have a lot more power in the Middle East because now you can... You're in a better negotiation position. Listen, bro, I don't need anything from you. So now let me flex some muscle. So, and money will come to Venezuela, which, you know, is going to, unless you remove the people that are there, is going to go back to the same hands.

Starting point is 00:33:23 And then on top of that, you're removing a bunch of people from here back to Venezuela. So a lot of those people invested in their houses here. And now those properties are going to go into foreclosure. Or maybe, who knows, somebody may even, because I was thinking about this the other day, somebody may even do a quick claim deed on those properties and transfer it to their names. Still those properties. These people are deported. They don't know.

Starting point is 00:33:51 They don't know what's going on. How many Venezuelans are here that you think would be subject to? deportation? Easily, easily, based on the numbers that they're putting out, about 600,000. 600,000? Okay. Plus, the ones that are going to live on their own. You're going to have a bunch of people that are,

Starting point is 00:34:09 you already have a bunch of people that have left. Where are those people? Well, nobody wants them. So, they're either going back. It's true. I'm saying, where are they in the United States? Oh, where are the United States? Because you said 8 million left.

Starting point is 00:34:22 Eight million left. But they are all over the world. Yeah. I mean, if you go anywhere in the world and there's a Venezuelan person. in there. In the United States, you'll find them in Florida, big percentage, in Texas, New York, and then they're kind of like spread thin around the United States. But those are like the three big spots for the Venezuelan community, which is an amazing community, bro.

Starting point is 00:34:45 I mean, my people are phenomenal. It's just the bad ones are really bad. But the good ones are amazing, amazing. We have great culture, great food. You know, we're all sexy. the 99% to make the 1% look bad. Yeah, you know, it's like when you find a con artist that does mortgage fraud and, and, you know, it's, uh, listen, I'm trying to protect the reviews of this video.

Starting point is 00:35:11 I feel like you've got a bunch of quick claims coming your way. Yeah, but it's like, like I was telling somebody there a day and, and, uh, I said, man, we're, we're so much fun and even our crimes are, are like so different, you know? you know, like, we don't go into a school and shoot a bunch of people. We don't do that shit. But we will kill you for your shoes if they're nicer than mine. So it's just like you grow up in a community where you know where to go, how to walk, what to do. You know how to carry yourself.

Starting point is 00:35:47 You know, if you're going to go to that side of town, you don't take your phone. You take your jewelry out. And you'll be okay. And you can dance and party with all those people. And then when you come here, you're on a different. it's it's we're just completely different even the way we discipline our kids are different you know we don't believe in in kindness or what what is this kind of parenting that you guys have right now that is like trending um is it like gentle or soft something like that like gentle parenting yeah yeah

Starting point is 00:36:16 yeah you know and i was telling somebody we don't even until today we don't believe in gentle parenting we believe in beating the shatter of our kids at the women's bathroom Like your mother will take you to the women's bathroom and beat the shit out of you. And then nobody calls the DCF. Nobody. We grew up on that community. I mean, we have our own ethnicity. We have our own operating system.

Starting point is 00:36:40 We are an interesting community. No, listen, my mom would take her shoe off right in the middle of JC Pennies and swat you in the thigh. Just whack, whack, whack, whack, whack. And that's it. But we Latinos are still like that. You'll never hear a Latino going like... They're not doing a helicopter parenting. Like, my kid needs to...

Starting point is 00:37:04 I will know. I know where he's at. I know. It doesn't work like that. But we were talking about the other day, because I saw a TikTok. And they were... It was saying like, do you ever, like, you never see any kids in casts anymore. And never.

Starting point is 00:37:19 No shit. I had a cast. Every five or six kids had a cast. It was like, everybody had cast. But now they don't let you climb trees and fall out of them. They don't let you fall on your bicycles. You got a helmet, you got knee pads, and you got, you know, all kinds of. Listen, we grew up dancing.

Starting point is 00:37:35 We're dancers. And it was like you had to dance with your mother and with your grandmother. And if you had a sister, you had to dance with your sister and your aunt's since you were like two years old. Because that's like it. And there is no ugly or pretty girl. It's like you got to dance with all of them. You dance with the fat one, with the skinny one, with the one. with the one with pimples, with the one with bad breath.

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Starting point is 00:39:00 You have to. I mean, it's like we, we, I was telling somebody I said, we don't believe in bullying. There is no bullying in Latin America because they bully you in your house. You know, your mom will bully you. Your brothers will bully you. Like, your nickname is your defect. You know, like if you're crossed-eyed, that's what they call you, and your mom will call you that and introduce you like Dad. Malone. This is my kid. And they'll call you Cross High.

Starting point is 00:39:23 Cross High. Go say hi. And you're like, hi, Dad. Hi, Mom. You know? It's, it's, so we are like raw. How do we get here? That, well, because when you come to the United States and I came here to Young, so, so I was

Starting point is 00:39:41 able to kind of like adapt. But then you come to the United States, this last generation that came in. And they haven't adapted to the rules here. Because the rules here are completely different. If you beat the shutter of your kid at the mall, they're going to call the cops on you. Yeah, they'll come take the kid. They'll come take the kid. You know, we play dominoes everywhere.

Starting point is 00:39:59 Well, you felt that in prison. We are very... They'll make dominoes. We'll make dominoes. Yeah, we are on structure. We're loud by nature. We are disrespectful, if you will, but also very open. Like, we'll have a party until 4 o'clock in the morning.

Starting point is 00:40:18 Music blasting. But the neighbor is in the party. Right. Because it's like, listen, neighbor, I'm going to have a party, so I'm not going to let you sleep. So you might as well just come to a party and drink with us, you know? So we come here and we try to do that. And that creates the friction that is going on right now, which is, can you, ice, can you please pick up my neighbor? This motherfucker keeps putting music until 4 o'clock in the morning.

Starting point is 00:40:44 I want him out, you know? That, can you justify it? Yeah. He's got to go. He's got to go. Not because he's doing something wrong. He's doing something right at the wrong spot. So. He'd be better off doing that in Venezuela.

Starting point is 00:41:02 Or in Colombia or anywhere else. So that's the problem. You come here and I was like, but I don't understand. I want to do shit that. No, no, bro. No, you have to assimilate. Well, you used to be when you would come in the United States, a big thing was assimilating to the culture.

Starting point is 00:41:16 You had to, you know. My generation of immigrants, we all speak English. Yeah. All of us. There was no ESL. Now, none of them speak English. Yeah. But they don't care.

Starting point is 00:41:25 They're like, well, I have my friends that will speak Spanish. How many Latino food trucks you have in Tampa? There's got to be a shitload. Orlando, there's a dime a dozen. I was going to say, I mean, I've seen a few. You know what they are? Most of them are the ones I know of are because my wife loves tacos is Mexican ones. And you can get the Mexican Coca-Cola with this real sugar.

Starting point is 00:41:49 Yeah. And that bullshit. They're selling here in the U.S. No, no, no, the real thing. In the bottle. Glass bottle. Yeah, of course. Of course.

Starting point is 00:41:58 And if you pay the guy, he has some in the stash in the back. And so all that is going to disappear eventually or it's going to fade out because, you know. That's horrible. And that food truck is probably doesn't have a health certificate, you know, or a grease trap. Lose a little weight. Or, you know, it may have some. roaches or maybe some but

Starting point is 00:42:22 really selling it but we grew up but we don't give us shit you know I mean we grew up like that and we tried to come here and we tried to make this country

Starting point is 00:42:31 fit our profile and it doesn't work so now we have tension and now we have all all these rates and we're getting rid of all these people dude and it's it's just

Starting point is 00:42:40 it's a tricky situation especially when you're Latino so what what was happening in Venezuela what is what is what do you think the what is the administration plan because initially this administration or that one no no well or both both i mean trump's just

Starting point is 00:42:56 hoping obviously he's hoping hey they'll take care of their own problems and we can start pumping oil like that's the hope but the the the fact that they're going to take care of their own problems is unlikely right because the administration didn't change it's just the second command took over correct and she promised a bunch of stuff which she's not doing they're not bus drivers like they took guy out and they left the smart people. Right. That's scary. But the good news is they're scarce shitless of the United States.

Starting point is 00:43:28 Right. So they're trying to figure out... How do we stay in power? How do we tell the people that we're still in control, but also give up control? Well, how do you not know if you were in the administration of the Venezuelan government, How do you not know that it is better to hand these facilities back over to U.S. companies and allow them to bring the oil production back up to 5 million barrels a day and take a portion of that than it is to continue to try and run them at a, you know, at a loss or not at a loss? Because you have all these thugs that are killers, murderers, that have their families working on the oil companies. So when the Americans take it in, take it over, they're going to fire all these people.

Starting point is 00:44:20 Right. And these stocks are going to go back to the president and go, listen, my uncle just lost his $2 million a year's salary because you gave it up to the Americans. So they're afraid that they'll be toppled from within. Because now all this niche, everybody's like pointing the finger like, how did they capture Maduro? Right. Who's niched? Why did anybody, you know? So it's, you know how the game is.

Starting point is 00:44:47 I mean, the current president is indicted in the United States. Really? The current vice president is indicted. The current Department of Defense, Secretary of the Department of Venezuela, is indicted. So all these officers are indicted, aren't the same indictment than Maduro. So they all definitely want to keep their jobs because if they were to say, will step down, then they know there's a good chance that new administration comes in, sweeps them up and hands them over? So there is rumors. I mean, there's speculation. People are saying,

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Starting point is 00:46:08 you're sending a bunch of people that are here from Venezuelans that are not criminal. they're just, maybe they got the wrong status back to Venezuela. And when you land there, they're getting arrested. Because you came from the United States and you have money. So we're going to arrest you and we're going to get your family to pay five grand to get you out or 10 grand to get you out. That's if you're lucky.

Starting point is 00:46:33 Right. You know, if you happen to have Instagram and you put something on Instagram against the government, oh, you're going to a slumber. you're going to get, you're going to get torture for a couple months, maybe for a year or two years. So they're checking your phones, they're checking your social media when you land up there. It's not good. It's not good. So what is, what do you think the, what is the solution to that if, I mean, I mean, I know what the current U.S. administration believes is the solution to that, which is round them up, send them back and let them figure it out.

Starting point is 00:47:09 They're not Americans. it's not our problem. They've had sanctuary long enough. So what would your situation, what would your solution to that be? This is probably why I have seminars that are packed with people, but why a lot of people don't like me in my own community.

Starting point is 00:47:31 If I go to your house and you tell me, listen, you're going to be in my house for a while. I don't know for how long, but while you're in my house, you'll have access to everything I do. how to create a YouTube channel, how to monetize a YouTube channel. I'll help you create your own YouTube channel. I'll make sure you...

Starting point is 00:47:48 So I live in your house for five years. And then you tell me one day, dude, it's time to go. And I tell you, Matt, can you tell me right now? How do I start my YouTube channel again? Right. Listen, bro. Yeah, so you've had five years. You've got to go.

Starting point is 00:48:05 You got to go. So I would tell people, if you're in the United States, you can set up a structure that will be. be self-managed. You can have passive income. Invest in mobile homes. Become Cody Sanchez, you know, by vending machines, by whatever, you know. And then brace yourself for the moment when they tell you, listen, you have to go. All right. Then you can say, well, I'm not going to go back to Venezuela. I can live in Spain. I'll live in Italy. I'll be in Colombia. I'll be in Panama. I'll be in Cambodia. I'll live whatever. That, that to me is the ideal plan. You come, you prepare yourself

Starting point is 00:48:40 for the worst. If you doesn't have a lot, you don't have. happen, you still have a good plan. If it happens, you still have a good plan. Yeah, we talked about this in the previous podcast where we were talking about, like, you can go to, you can go to Thailand, and if you can prove to them that, hey, I make $3,000 a month and I have $20,000 in the bank, they'll let you stay. You can stay, it's like a digital nomad, whatever, and you can stay there. You can't get a job there, but you can rent an apartment. You can't, you can't vote. You can't own a business there. You can be happy. But you can rent an apartment, you can live there.

Starting point is 00:49:14 Legally. Legally and continue to make your money. By the way, this is insane. For a hundred and, because, you know, they have universal healthcare. So for I believe, and I can be wrong with the number, but it's, I'm not off. I promise I'm not off much. You pay in like $150 a year. You pay in like $150.50.

Starting point is 00:49:38 and you get the same medical care that anybody in Thailand gets. Boziak got sick, went to the hospital, had asked how much it was, had to pay like a, they were like, well, you have your card, you have to pay like a copay. And he was like, okay, how much is that? And it was like $3 or $12. It was, he was like, no, no, I got medication. They're like, oh, yeah, here's your medication. and it was like a dollar.

Starting point is 00:50:09 I think they gave free medication there and they said for the refill, it's like a dollar. It was insane. Listen, not just that. He just got all of his teeth redone for like under two grand. Oh, absolutely. All porcelain, veneer, everything.

Starting point is 00:50:24 From a dentist there, better than what he paid like six or eight grand here for. So, in the matter of fact, he only got him redone because of what he paid here for. In Miami, he wasn't done right. Yeah, the bridge came off. So he went and just said, How much for all of them?

Starting point is 00:50:38 They were like, oh, 2,200, whatever it came to. And he paid it, and that was it. So it's, you know, or you can go to Columbia, which is where he lives now. No, I'm sorry, Colombia. Cambodia, which is where he lives now. And basically, you just, you show up, you fill out your paperwork, and that's it. They don't, they could care less. They're like, look, if you can rent a place, do whatever, you can say as long as you want.

Starting point is 00:50:59 You can't vote. You can't take a job. But you can live here. And you don't have to prove anything. You don't have to prove you make an income because they're like, if he doesn't take, if he doesn't make an income. You're bringing money in and you're not costing us any money. Right.

Starting point is 00:51:10 But they're saying if he doesn't make money, then obviously he's not going to stay. He's broke. He'll end up on the street. We'll pick him up and throw him out. But that's not the case. He rented a place. He makes money every month. So these are just the ones I'm familiar with.

Starting point is 00:51:23 But there are tons of communities out there that also have American communities within them. Expat. Yes. Mexico. Mexico is full of ex-Colombia. Medellin Colombia. Colombia. Medellin is my favorite city in the whole world.

Starting point is 00:51:41 And $4,000 a month. You can live what? Two-bedroom apartment, beautiful place in the city, made that comes in, cleans the apartment, cooks for you every day. You can go out two to three times. You have money left over so you can save for two or three vacations a year. You know, but a lot of people don't make for a grant in Colombia. Most of the population, they don't make that kind of cash.

Starting point is 00:52:05 Right. Dude, that's what you use your time here for. Use your time here for to build a structure, to build a business. I mean, nobody can deny that this is still a nation where you can make money. This is still capitalism. That's the beauty of capitalism, you know? But this is not your house. This is not my house.

Starting point is 00:52:23 One day will come where the Americans will may say, you know, we don't want you here anymore. All right, it's time to go. It's time to go. Yeah, so I can't complain. I've been here for 30-something years. Life has been good. All right. Life has been good, you know?

Starting point is 00:52:36 I think it's that new generation of immigrants that came in and said, well, I'm just going to do my shit here and I'm going to speak Spanish, not going to learn any English, and I'm not going to adapt, and I'm going to do the bare minimum because the bare minimum will allow me to live here. Yeah, but it won't allow you to create a passive income. Right. So what you're doing, this only in America. I mean, well, or, you know, listen, what you call them JJ, I call it, Boziac. Boziac just does editing. I know tons of people. They, they can, you can do editing work.

Starting point is 00:53:15 You can do editing work remotely and make two or three thousand dollars. And that's pretty easy. Absolutely. You can run, like we were talked about, the faceless. Virtual assistant. You can be a VA. Right. You could be a, you could run, you can set up two or three YouTube channels, run them,

Starting point is 00:53:32 all put out this, and it could be anything. Well, I don't know what to talk about. It could be anything. 600 bucks. Make them monetize 600, 700 bucks a month. Yeah. And that's, that's to begin with, right? Like that's, now, it might take three or four months, but if you're doing three or four of them,

Starting point is 00:53:46 one of those channels is going to take off. And in a year, maybe it's making $1,000. In two years, maybe it's making $4,000 or five. Maybe it's making $10. But, you know, you have to put in some work, but you can, you can do it if you try. Absolutely. Absolutely. But you got to learn.

Starting point is 00:54:01 So then you come to the United States and you say, okay, I'm going to learn how to create a YouTube channel. I'm going to study how to Google works. I want to know how to microphone works. I want to see how to edit, which camera is good, which camera is bad. But we don't do that. So it's my feeling is if you came to the United States and you spent five, six, seven years and you didn't figure this shit out, it's too late for you. But if you did, you're probably in a very good fucking position. you are ready to be, you are ready to go home and leave a good lifestyle, very good lifestyle,

Starting point is 00:54:36 you know, I mean, not Colby good, but no, well, you know, you know, but definitely a good lifestyle. Colby's a beast. The only thing is most people that will get deported will not be able to come back to the United States. You get a permanent ban. Really? They don't ban you for a few years. They don't pay. They're like, well, they do five years, 10 years, but you still have to ask for a pardon.

Starting point is 00:54:57 and, you know, right now. Not a pardon from the president. No, from like United States, from Usses. Okay. USCIS. Could you say pardon? People think Trump. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:55:08 From you. Well, it's pretty much it. It's like not the president, but his cousin. So it's like USCIS. So, you know, a lot of people are still connected to the United States. I have their kids here. They have their grandkids here. They want to be able to come back.

Starting point is 00:55:21 They won't be able to come back. So it's a lot of things on the table. Okay. So what do you think? because we had talked about ICE and how they're going about deporting people. And you kind of said, like, what was you, because the conversation was, you're like, I mean, they don't want you here. It's, it's understandable.

Starting point is 00:55:40 Like it's, like you said, it's, it's their house. You had a good run. You got to go. But it was like, but it's, it's the way they're going about it. You were kind of saying, like, it's. Yeah. You know, there's some, and it's, it's kind of, it's kind of horrible, because. because you only see the people.

Starting point is 00:55:59 The news will never promote, like, they found this murderer and they beat the shadow of him and they deported him. And you're like, okay, thank God. It's always like they deported this lady out of this point, these kids. And I think right now we're all in the same box. Like, if you're undocumented or if you have a status

Starting point is 00:56:14 that is not a solid immigration status, you're going to be treated as a criminal, and that's how you're going to be treated. The quality of status it's good if you're treating everybody good, but it's bad when you're treating everybody bad. So right now there's a lot of people that have status that are not undocumented,

Starting point is 00:56:35 that they have never broken the law, and they're being treated like criminals. I mean, they're being detained, no due process. Dude, there are, there, it's some stories that are insane. I mean, five-year-old kids being detained, the separation of parents, that kind of stuff, you know? To me, it's what I just told you.

Starting point is 00:56:59 Man, when you see this, it's your time to say, okay, maybe I should prepare and be ready and have my extraction plan. 2026 is the year of my extraction. If it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. Apply for some loans. Dude. Yeah, that's a problem. Run up the credit cards.

Starting point is 00:57:17 So what they're doing is like, well, my plan is going to be, I'm going to apply from some credit cards, and I'm going to max out the credit cards. Fantastic. That's your plan? doing that while you're doing that, why don't you sell some cocaine and maybe pimpe your kids, you know? Your plan cannot be break the law.

Starting point is 00:57:30 Right. I'm going to break the law so I can walk out of here. But now you have these organizations that are promoting the law-breaking thing. Like, are you about to get deported? Yeah. We'll get you the loan. We just charge 10 to 20%.

Starting point is 00:57:43 So they help, they help prepare the- The loan docks, right. Which you already know, they're a little spiked up a little, just a little bit, you know. Who say you're, you're an American citizen, right?

Starting point is 00:57:56 We'll say that you are making $150 a year. And you've been on the job for three years or four years? And you haven't moved in two years. So they create these applications, file them. These people get $150,000. I charge 20%. So I already made $30,000 from the top that I charge on your credit card that I just got you. So you're already 30 in debt.

Starting point is 00:58:22 And this is a... a new industry that has been created. It reminds me of the years of cashback on real estate, remember? Same thing. Good times. You want to buy a house? Yeah. But you don't have credit?

Starting point is 00:58:35 No. But you want cash? Yeah. Got you. I'll sell you 10 houses, $20,000 cashback. Now it's a credit card game. Now is the merchant account loans. Now it's a dude.

Starting point is 00:58:45 And that's going to be bad. It's going to be really, really, really, really bad. Because when those loans are on the fault, we already know what happens. Credit cards are going to be closing down. Limits are going to go down and the economy is going to go to shit. So I don't know. Something's got to be organized here. I feel like we're not a freaking orgy and nobody's organizing this situation, you know.

Starting point is 00:59:09 Everything is like a free-for-all. There's nothing I hate that an unorganized orgy. Yeah, because you may get fucked five times and you didn't fuck anybody, you know. So we need structure. We need structure. And right now it's a little crazy. It's a little too crazy. many things happening too fast add AI to that and fake news you know what made me

Starting point is 00:59:31 think of what the guy dies and he goes to hell and he says and and the devil comes and says hey well welcome to hell he's oh man this is horrible I'm really worried and he said well it's it's fine it's great he said yeah he said I mean it's good he said the great thing is he said get to have sex with anybody any any any way you want to have sex any type of difference sex you want, you can have it. He's like, listen, he said, you like, you like vaginal sex with women? And he's like, yeah, yeah. And he said, great, Mondays, it's every woman here, vaginal sex, you can have sex with any of them you want, they can't say no. It's really. He's like, yeah,

Starting point is 01:00:13 you like blow jobs? Yeah, yeah. He said, listen, it's great. He said, on Tuesdays, you can have, get any blowjobs from anybody here. They can't, they cannot say no. Really? He's, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He's like anal sex? And he goes, not really. And he goes, you're going to hate Wednesdays. Well, we're living on a perpetual Wednesday. Right.

Starting point is 01:00:35 Yeah. It seems like we're living on a perpetual Wednesday. So, I don't know, man. I don't know. Right now, we're celebrating that they took this criminal from Venezuela. We're celebrating that he's indicted. They replaced him with another. We're not too happy that number two criminal is back on power.

Starting point is 01:00:50 We're hopeful that things are going to change. there's no incentive for these people to step down because if they step down there's a good chance they get they get arrested and then they're already in here right and then they and then going to Russia like I'm sure it's beautiful but I can't imagine going from Venezuela to Russia even if you had a ton of money

Starting point is 01:01:13 remember the guy from WikiLeaks what was his name you're talking about Snowden are you talking about Snowden I'm not no that's right Snowden yeah he was uh Snowden he was like get me out of here yeah Give me a pardon or something, appeal, whatever, but I don't want to be here anymore. Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't know.

Starting point is 01:01:28 I mean, they can go to Cuba, but. Yeah, then you're left to live in Cuba. And you're going to live in Cuba? The United States is after Cuba, too, you know? I was going to say Marco Rubio, he may be running Cuba here soon. He may be president in Cuba here pretty soon. And Greenland. Could you imagine?

Starting point is 01:01:42 In Greenland and Venezuela. And, yeah. I mean. Can you imagine? But listen, just listen to this. Marco Rubio. Rubio. his parents come here from Cuba

Starting point is 01:01:53 his grandfather his grandfather is undocumented and gets deported oh he does when recently no back when he came oh really he had to go back to Cuba no because back on those days they were not sending you back that's right luckily okay so he gets here

Starting point is 01:02:10 he's born here or is he did he come over as a I think he's born here okay so he's born here his parents raise him They love this country, right? They do well. They raise him to love the country. He then becomes Secretary of State.

Starting point is 01:02:31 And then can you imagine he takes over Cuba or sees the regime or oversees a regime change and ends up running that place? Like that is, can you imagine how like you want to talk about a comeback story? we're coming across the straits during the Mariel boat lift or whatever they probably came upon a plane. I don't know. But they come over, they raise their kid,

Starting point is 01:02:54 they get jobs, they reestablish a life here, they raise this kid. He becomes super successful and then ends up overseeing some kind of regime change and then could you imagine he ends up running the place or whatever?

Starting point is 01:03:09 It doesn't even matter. If he just takes part in changing that government, what a fucking amazing. But let me ask you, because you're, you're, you're as white as it gets, you know? I mean. With the exception of the 13 years of prison. Yeah, yeah, but you're, you're pretty white.

Starting point is 01:03:26 You're like, like. Raised upper middle class, went to a private school. Have you ever dated a Latino woman? Of course, I dated a Puerto Rican, bro. That what do you think prepared me for prison? So you, I did a Puerto Rican? I was married to a Puerto Rist. Your ex-wife is Puerto Rican?

Starting point is 01:03:39 Of course she's. But is she like a Puerto Rican American or like a fruit-blown Puerto Rican? Like, I'll cut you, bro. She'll cut you. I'll stop you, Puerto Rican. Yes. And not like, talk to her mother three times a day. Up until we got married, used to have dinner with her parents almost every single thing.

Starting point is 01:03:56 So she's fluent in Spanish? Absolutely. Okay. Have you ever been to Puerto Rico? Yes, went to Puerto Rico a couple times, San Juan. We didn't really venture outside of San Juan because it was extremely dangerous. For you? For me.

Starting point is 01:04:09 Yeah, not for her. No. Yeah. We can go back to any country and it's not dangerous for us. Yeah. They look at me and they think. We take a white person as a guy. Damn, and now I got to stay within the fucking hotel pool.

Starting point is 01:04:19 I cannot get out of a swimming pool. As a white American as you are, would you like to have Venezuela, Puerto Rico, or Cuba, sorry, as states in the United States? Would you like to, would you like Venezuela to be the 51st state? How many people are there? Probably about 27 million, 25 million right now in the whole country? Because Puerto Rico doesn't have No, but it's smaller. We're a larger

Starting point is 01:04:49 Yeah, you're a large country. I mean, I would prefer Alberta. But if we wanted to go for if we're looking for oil. I will try to stay white. I would You know, the colonization

Starting point is 01:05:07 has such a bad rap. I think I can see. What made it bad? Like the killing of the Indians or the Of the women. Oh, for God's sakes. What's the part about colonization that gives you a bad feeling?

Starting point is 01:05:21 Every country in the world has been owned and occupied by somebody else at some time. The Indians are fine on the reservations. They got their casinos. I love when this is stolen land. It's not stolen. It was conquered. It was conquered and taken and we own it. And that's it.

Starting point is 01:05:34 Well, you should give it. We're not. We're not. So you stay on your reservation. You can have your casinos. You can sell your tax-free cigarettes. Like, you got it good. You got it good, bro.

Starting point is 01:05:44 You do? So what if you? if we rape your women. Oh, for God's sakes. They throw the racking the women out there. I don't know any women that rucked anyway. You don't even know. You're just saying it.

Starting point is 01:05:53 But let me ask you, would you want it to be part of the United States? I think if the, I think the United States, it would take a hit, but it would absorb it. And I think that Venezuela has enough potential that it would be worth. It would be an asset. It would be an asset, eventually. Yeah. It would take, would it take five or ten years? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:06:13 It might take five years before it. became before it broke even, 10, it'd be an extreme, extreme asset to the United States. Yes, I believe that. It would take a considerable amount of new infrastructure and investment, but I think, yes, I think within five to 10 years, it would be a huge asset. It would be a, and it'd be a major coup. Like, it'd be like, this was, this was the right call. And right now, but it would hurt first. On your circle of influence, on your circle of friends, on your circle of friends, how many Latinos are part of that circle? Other than me.

Starting point is 01:06:54 I don't understand what you're doing. And the reason why I'm asking that question, it doesn't make you racist. Just a little bit. Just a little racist. It doesn't help. No, no, but if the Latino community gets deported, it doesn't change anything in your life. No. No, no, your life goes on.

Starting point is 01:07:16 No, not really, no. Your market is not Latino. Your income doesn't come from the Latino community. I mean, you're still going to have your million subscribers. Nothing changes. You just keep a bit. So for you, we are a community that doesn't really serve a purpose. And it's nothing wrong.

Starting point is 01:07:33 There's nothing wrong about it. No, I understand. It's like if you tell me, how would you feel if they deported the Vietnamese? I'll be like, I don't know. I don't know any Vietnamese person. I don't consume their products. It's not my market. So your life will go on.

Starting point is 01:07:48 And I think that's kind of like the standard of a lot of people that are entrepreneurs in the United States and are an American and their market is American. It's like, I'll give a fuck. Get rid of them. I don't care. I think the people that are getting affected is because they're very deeply connected to the Latino community through their business or, you know, family. They got married and now they have mixed kids, that kind of stuff. And that is not a huge percentage of the white community. Well, I think, you know, it's funny because the different question is that, because I actually

Starting point is 01:08:21 had this conversation the other day, is that if Venezuela didn't become a state, right? And it's funny because, like, it's not going to become a state, right? Like, there's no push for it to become a state, you know. But if it didn't become a state, do I think everyone here, everyone that's here that's illegal should go back? Undocumented. Ted. And start the process over again, then I think that that's the legal way to do it is you go back and

Starting point is 01:08:50 you start the process over again. But if you go back, you get killed. Okay. Then I think if that was the case, and you can prove that, right, in some capacity. Correct. And here's thing. I'm not even looking for a lot of proof because the truth is it's probably difficult to come up with. Look, in your case, it's completely different.

Starting point is 01:09:06 You have 100% proof. Like, it's not even debatable. I have documented threats. Right, yeah. It's super, but it's not even that. You have, you have U.S. attorneys. You have, it's ingrained in your case. I would not send someone back to a country that I thought they would be harmed.

Starting point is 01:09:24 The difference is when you say, hey, I'm fleeing, you know, Somalia. I can't go back. You know, I'm in danger. And then you get, they say, okay, well, you can stay. And then two years later, you go back. vacation for two weeks and then you come back for a year and a half and you go back the next year for two two different times on vacation and come back it's like wait a minute man come on man that's not that's not what's happening nobody even even even even if you're uh pro or against what's going on

Starting point is 01:09:56 i think nobody can question the fact that the system is a disaster yeah the other thing is you could also say hey if someone's been here for you you could go and say look look i i get it you want people gone you know you want them to come back and do do it the right way i get it And it's really a slap into the face to the people that have come over legally and did all the right things to then just say, okay, we're going to go ahead and give you blanket immunity and you're all going to be citizens or, oh, you just have to take your test or whatever. So, but I think if you said, hey, it's a disaster of removing these people that have been here for fucking 25 years. So if you said, hey, if you've been here over 25 years, and you can prove that in some capacity. And you're a productive member of society.

Starting point is 01:10:37 Right, right. Yeah, maybe you don't have, you know, a bunch of felonies or whatever, then you know what? We're going to go ahead and give you a, we're going to let you stay and give you a path. Like, within five years, you have to pass the test, you know. You have to learn English and pass the test, whatever. Nothing super hard, right? But I think you can't do that with everyone. Like, if you came here five years ago, you walked across the border, you hear five years,

Starting point is 01:10:59 then it's like, come on, you know, and you're not going back to be slaughtered somewhere. Then, yeah, you've got to go. Yeah, I think, I think that's what I told you. They put us all in a box. and I think that's where it's kind of going a little haywire. Right. I think you've got to kind of like dissect the thing and go, okay, this guy may, we may want him here. He's an asset.

Starting point is 01:11:17 And then these people are a liability. And we kind of move the pieces around. Well, I also think that like, like I get it the, you know. How do you feel? Are you a Super Bowl fan? No. Are you, you're not a Super Bowl fan? Colby, are you a Super Bowl fan?

Starting point is 01:11:33 I mean, I'll watch it. I'm more clutch football, but yeah. You're more one? College football. How about a halftime show? No. No, I don't watch a halftime show. You don't watch it?

Starting point is 01:11:44 Is it because it's Bad Bunny? I don't watch, I just never watch halftime shows. Really? Yeah. Did you watch it when it was Maroon 5? No. No? I'm just trying to figure out because right now there is a big issue.

Starting point is 01:11:55 February 8th, Bat Bunny is a halftime show of the Super Bowl. Well, I mean, I think that in general, the NFL has kind of just been like a sellout to the whole woke culture thing. And it's pathetic. And of course, their numbers are dropping, you know, and dropping. And that was kind of like the point that I want to make. We now have become a bit of an advertising token. Yeah. You know, it's now like...

Starting point is 01:12:19 Is he Venezuelan? No, he's Puerto Rican, but, you know, he's going to be singing in Spanish. Right. I have a problem with him singing. And then what I have a problem... Singing is a big statement for him, but he's going to be performing in Spanish. Well, what I have a problem with is that I think he's made anti-American, like... He's an American.

Starting point is 01:12:35 Yeah. Okay. You would be American. and make anti-American statements. I really think, like, if you're so fucking unhappy and there are so many better countries out there and if we're doing so horrible, then why are you here?

Starting point is 01:12:46 You can go somewhere else. I think we have become followers-likes, trending system. Like, I'm going to do whatever it takes so I can get followers and likes and, you know, be trending and go viral and be an influencer. I'm sure before TikTok and Instagram and the cell phones,

Starting point is 01:13:05 there was a lot of people protesting and nobody even found out. Now it's like everybody wants to be on the spotlight. But I think this, I was just watching the news and a bunch of people that had hotel, 38,000 hotel reservations have been canceled for the World Soccer Cup. World Soccer Cup? Yeah, which is coming this year. World Soccer Cup.

Starting point is 01:13:32 You know, there's a sport called soccer. Yeah, yeah. We play it. And they have the World Soccer Cup in the United States. The soccer cut? Is it the World Cup or something like that? Well, there's a lot of World Cup. You have the World Cup for hockey and you have the World Hockey.

Starting point is 01:13:46 You're not going to believe this. I'm not really a sports person. You don't say? No. No. How about the Miss Universe? You watch that? I don't watch that.

Starting point is 01:13:53 Because there was some drama on the Miss Universe too. Was there? Yeah, with everything, everywhere is drama now, man. There's like chicks with dicks or something? No, not yet. We haven't gotten to that point. Let's say Matt Cox decides to move to Mexico. I love Mexico.

Starting point is 01:14:06 I'm like a giant, bro. I'm five, six. becomes a Mexican citizen. He's a Mexican citizen. Now, you got your passport. Bevo, Mexico. And now the president of Mexico says, I think we have to deport all the Americans that are here,

Starting point is 01:14:24 undocumented, and we're going to run. Would you stand up as a new citizen that you are and say, fuck the Americans, get them up? Or would you say, wait a second. I am an American, naturalized. Mexican, but these are my people.

Starting point is 01:14:41 But what would be your position on that situation? Would you be... I'm a Mexican citizen. I went through the process. Naturalized. Naturalized medical. But you are born American. Right. And raised American. Right. But I'm a naturalized Mexican citizen. Correct. And these people came in, walked across the border.

Starting point is 01:14:56 Correct. And some are illegal, undocumented. They're doing illegal things. Or some are doing the right thing. You know, it doesn't matter. We're going to deport all of them just because they're Americans. Okay, but they're not citizens. So would you say, fuck it, get rid of them? They got to go.

Starting point is 01:15:12 I'm a citizen. They're not a citizen. I did all the right things. I took the test. I did the thing. I put the paperwork. I did everything and I got it. That's exactly.

Starting point is 01:15:20 That is an area that I just painted is what's going on right now within the Hispanic community in the United States. There are some Latinos that are going, fuck it, get rid of them. Yeah. And then there's some Latinos that go, wait, what a second, but you, you know, they are your people. Yeah, but I did everything right. I mean, it came in. I did my paperwork. Right.

Starting point is 01:15:35 I found my taxes. You had an opportunity to do the same thing. That's kind of like, that's the current division that we're living in right now, to within our own community, you know? So what, so when they had the opportunity to do the same thing, they said, oh, well, if it ever gets to that, I'll deal with it at that time. Well, now you're dealing with it. And that dealing with it is, you better hope a couple of ice trucks and six guys with ice don't show up and run in and grab you out in front of here. Well, but I think you, I think now, now that's not exclusive to us. thing now they're taking white they're taking everybody they're grabbing anybody right yeah so

Starting point is 01:16:13 i just know like i said i think people should come here understanding this is not my country at some point i may be asked to leave or i may want to leave and because it same scenario that i just painted if one day the president from mexico goes you know what we don't want any more naturalized americans i mean it was nice to have you but you got to go i mean it was never your country they gave you But you're an American born. You have a place to go back to it. Listen, I'll tell you one thing. The idea that, like, some of the people that are where they talk about, and I don't even know, you know, the problem is I get the bulk of my information from TikTok.

Starting point is 01:16:55 And that's a problem. You know, you're short. You think, meh, especially with AI. I've seen Trump say all kinds of crazy stuff. We just saw him. I know. We just saw him. Vlad was just interviewing and he was, I stole that shit.

Starting point is 01:17:07 I stole that shit. But I think what was it like they were talking about stripping people of their citizenship They are stripping people of their citizenship No, I'm so I'm saying like you were born here Yeah, and you're a citizen and they were talking and I was like that that that's not true like that can't like the idea that that could be done if your parents are not American It doesn't make sense like like and I get it. Okay, well my these two Mexican came over the border had a baby the baby was born here. He's an American. He's an American. Correct. I understand, listen, guess what,

Starting point is 01:17:43 guess what happened with the two parents? If they were here illegally with this, with their little American baby, they got to go. They could take the kid with them, or the kid can go to a family member, or the kid can go into foster care, which is so good, so good for a child. I'm not saying it's good for a child. By the way, I didn't put it. him in that situation. His parents did. His parents are the ones that don't care about him. We'll pay for him and raise them. It'll be a fucking shit situation, but maybe he'll get adopted,

Starting point is 01:18:16 maybe whatever. But they got to go. You shouldn't have come up. Like, they keep saying that these kids... But he's still an American. He's an American. No, I would not take him take his citizenship away. I would allow him to go with his parents back to Mexico. But I hate it when people are like,

Starting point is 01:18:32 oh, you're, it's horrible what they're doing to the children. The United States government didn't do anything to the children. You came over illegally. You walked across the border. You took, you got a job and you had a kid here. And now you're in a bad position. Well, probably an American.

Starting point is 01:18:51 Listen, I'm not saying you should hire an illegal. That dude should be in trouble too. I got no problem with that guy being in trouble too. You knew these people were illegal. There's a system you can punch in their social security. Now, if you can prove, hey, I put them in their social security, this is how I've been paying them. They had an ID. It's like the drug problem.

Starting point is 01:19:08 You know, we're going to stop drugs from coming into the United States. That's fine. I mean, it's going to work. Deaths have dropped. That's fantastic. The United States is a number one cocaine consumer in the world. Right. That's a problem.

Starting point is 01:19:24 No, I agree. I also think that there probably should be more legalized drugs. And I also don't think that the drugs that are here when people get caught with them or selling them, I think the sentences are outrageous. They're outrageous. Listen, we're in a position now. You can put a bracelet on someone. You can put a watch on them, a permanent watch that can be snapped on or I can track you anywhere now.

Starting point is 01:19:47 Yeah. These are nonviolent. You're putting nonviolent offenders in jail for 20 and 30 years. You could just track this guy and put him on an ankle monitor and have him go to work and pay a fee so that the probation officers, if they're monitoring 30 guys, those 30 guys are paying their salary. You don't even, these guys could, they could, you could eliminate that budget. They just have to stay out and work. That's it. You know, like, why is the guy got to go do 20 years?

Starting point is 01:20:16 I get it. He broke the law. I understand that. Then we're going to monitor the living shit out of it. And there are some areas he can't go into. Why? Those are heavily drug, there's a heavy drug areas. He got to go to work, come back, go to the grocery store.

Starting point is 01:20:27 He can go work out. He can go to church. He can get a girlfriend. He can do whatever. But we're going to monitor. You cannot stay within. These areas you cannot go in, which are the areas that we're trying to clean up. Right.

Starting point is 01:20:36 So, I mean, look, all of this could be done right now. We have the technology is there to do it. But the solution for that problem is not get rid of all the Latinos. The solution for that problem is education. No, no, I'm talking about anybody who's selling drugs. Educate the kids, you know, it's the drug. Now, you think because they're shooting down boats and drugs are not coming through the border, they're not coming in?

Starting point is 01:20:59 I don't see a bunch of in addicts all strong out on the streets. They're going to come in because the problem is the consumption. They are going to come. I understand. Listen, I also think that if you cut the, if you cut the prison population, which is what, 80% drugs, you cut that prison population and took that money and dumped it into rehabs, then guess what? You'd probably, you could, you'd, look, you're not going to get rid of it, period. No. You're not going to get rid of period. There's always going to be drugs. People are going to want to drugs, but want to have drugs. But there's probably a better way,

Starting point is 01:21:28 and I, you know, I'm sure that there's a better way to handle the situation than locking up non-violent drug offenders for 30 years and 20 years and 10 years. Dude, we saw some people that were doing some serious freaking time. Oh, yeah. Serious freaking time. And you were, well, you at some point went to, like I was in the medium for three years. And there were guys there were 45 years. Life, yeah, there was a bunch of lifers, but there was even a few lifers in the low.

Starting point is 01:21:56 Not a lot, but I think there were a few. Yeah, like two or three that I knew of. But in the medium, I think the average. average sentence in the medium was like 15 or 20 years. So some of these guys had 45 years, 50 years, multiple life sentence. You don't even throw the life sentences in there. I remember being at it when I first got locked up.

Starting point is 01:22:15 I was at a table and I was telling people that I was like, man, I got 26 years for a white collar crime. And there were two guys at the table that said they were leaving in a box. And I remember just thinking, fuck. You know, like, Jesus. They were like, yeah. I was like, I'll be 60 years old when I leave. And they were like, I'll be in a box.

Starting point is 01:22:34 And I was just like, ah, shit, that wasn't good. I'm not endearing myself to these guys. You won. You won. You won. What's your name again? Let me put a score here. Here's my dessert. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:22:45 Let me give you my cake. Here my cookies. Yeah, you won. You won that one. Yeah. So, I don't know. I think we're going to feel the little pinching economy. I think it's going to be a little rough.

Starting point is 01:22:59 I think we need to clean up. you think Venezuela would make a good state? What do you think would happen? I don't think it's ever going to make a good state. I think Venezuelans right now are too proud of who they are to like give, because to become a state, you have to kind of give up your identity. Okay. Because you have to now, what are you going to have two flags, one flag, you know, am I going to have the political alliance? No, you have a state flag. We have a state flag, and you have the U.S. flag. Correct. But we have our history. We have our history. So I think it will be a good territory like Puerto Rico.

Starting point is 01:23:33 Yeah, but I don't think we'll ever be a good state. But I think territories are drained. I think at this point, we are welcoming whatever participation

Starting point is 01:23:42 in the United States has in Venezuela, whatever it is, whether it is with oil or whatever it is, we'll take it. As long as they get rid of the people that they,

Starting point is 01:23:50 that are still there. We'll take it on any. What about Alberta? It's too fucking cold, bro. You don't have to live there, bro.

Starting point is 01:23:58 I just have ownership of it. I'll take it. They're voting right now. to see if they can they can break away from from Canada they're voting they're lined up around the they're voting right now they're voting to see if they can separate from Canada and become what their own country yeah Alberta it's it's a province it's like a state yeah a state um but the problem is is that it's the state that generates the most money now if they

Starting point is 01:24:20 if that vote goes through and they actually are able to do it will Canada allow it to happen yeah that's another thing it's written into their constitution and there's there's an argument to be made in the courts. But I think at that point, does Trump come in and say, well, if they voted, it's this. Let's go ahead and go in there. Correct. Or now what do you want to do, Alberta? You want to be with us? Oh, they definitely, that's the only thing they can do is that they would want to become a state. But same thing. You know, the thing with Trump is that it's like, it's like the idea that Greenland, that he wants it to be a state. And listen, for about about a month there, I was like,

Starting point is 01:25:03 this dude's 100% serious. They're going to, they're going to, they're going to go in. This is just after he went and grabbed. Venezuela. Yeah, Maduro. And you're like, I'm like, oh, my God.

Starting point is 01:25:15 This is, oh, this, he's really going to do this. And people are going ballistic. The only thing I really enjoyed about that whole time is that the president of Denmark, when he first mentioned it a few years ago when he was president. The first, his first term. She laughed and mocked him. And then when he brought it up again after the Madura thing and was like, oh, no, we are the, we will either purchase it.

Starting point is 01:25:42 We will take it one way or the other. She got very serious. Not that funny. She became very polite, very, oh, whoa, whoa, because it was like, okay, this guy is, this guy's doing the insane things that he's saying. He's doing them. So they suddenly seem less insane. But, you know, it's like, one minute I think, no, he's serious. And then the next minute I think it's a tactic, right?

Starting point is 01:26:08 Like, because... Well, I think Venezuela also did something, which is it showed the world that, listen, he flexed muscle. I don't give a fuck, listen, I decided to go in and take this guy out and I did it. And nobody stopped me. So, you know what I'm capable. It's like when that kid goes to prison and you're like, who's this kid? And then he beats the shitter of somebody and you're like, You know what?

Starting point is 01:26:31 Yeah. He wants to sit here and watch TV here. You can take the bottom bunk. Yeah. You don't like the top bunk anyway. You want my table? Yeah, you want my table? Yeah, this is now your table, all right?

Starting point is 01:26:41 It's like the kid already proved himself that I'm not crazy. I'm not going to beat everybody up. But if I wanted to, I could beat you up. Yeah. I think that was a move. And it was a very, very strategic move. So that's why now Denmark is like, well, let's renegotiate. Let's renegotiate.

Starting point is 01:26:59 You know what? Maybe a Porsche. How about this part? How about the backyard? How about we work out? How about I don't give you the table, but you can pull your chair here and we can share or my commissary. Yeah. So, yeah, so, I mean, that's what I'm saying is I'm sitting there before.

Starting point is 01:27:14 I thought, oh, he's 100%. And now I'm starting to think, I think maybe it was a tactic. He's just a tactic. But I tell you one thing, whether it was a tactic or not, I don't think there was a Venezuelan in the world that did not feel grateful for what. what happened. Right. I mean, it was, it was phenomenal. That's what killed me. All the Democrats are screaming, all the liberals were screaming and hollering how horrible what he had done. And, but it's like, there's no Venezuelans. And I'm a liberal, by the way, on my way of thinking,

Starting point is 01:27:46 not on politics. Dude, but even people that were not Venezuelans, there were just Latinos. Yeah. I mean, there were, I remember I did a live that day, and it was the first time I had 2400, with people on a live on Instagram. I mean, it was insane off the chain. And everybody's talking about, oh, my God, I'm so glad for you guys. Venezuela is going to be free. I mean, it was just, it was just phenomenal. It was, it was the first time we saw hope in 27 years.

Starting point is 01:28:17 So, and that, I think, you have to be an ungrateful piece of shit. Or a member of the government, Venezuelan government, not to appreciate what the United States did that day. Yeah. What's going to happen after? that? I don't know. Who knows?

Starting point is 01:28:31 But that day was a day that every Venezuelan will ever remember and be grateful for absolutely 100%.

Starting point is 01:28:38 What happens now? Who knows? Maybe 10 years from now will be like these fucking people are still here

Starting point is 01:28:43 bro, they don't want to go. They're kind of like Kobe. They open a fucking door and the guy still is sitting

Starting point is 01:28:48 by you know. You know? So, but that's kind of like what's going on right now. We'll see what happens.

Starting point is 01:28:54 Maduro has his hearing on March 17th. And uh, I'm sure he's cooperating right now. And he's where? He's in Brooklyn and Metropolitan Detention Center.

Starting point is 01:29:07 We've got to send Sean G in. He needs to be in the, he needs to be there. Sean G. He has a podcast. It's called. Podcast with soul. Podcast with soul. He should just call it Sean G.

Starting point is 01:29:21 But podcast with soul. With soul like soul? Like, or with soul? No, soul. Like your soul. he was there every single day for the Diddy trial. And then he would come out and he would come out and he would tell what happened. He needs to go to see Maduro.

Starting point is 01:29:41 He needs to do the Maduro. He does. Yeah. I totally forgot about that. Yeah. That's a ton of you could do his podcast. I mean, I mean, Diti's there. So I might as well kill two birds with one stone.

Starting point is 01:29:52 And I think there is another high profile criminal in there right now. Epstein? No. No, well, he's there, but he's his spirit. They took care of that. They took care of that. Yeah, he's, yeah, you know too much. But El Chapo, I think he's still there.

Starting point is 01:30:07 Is El Chapo? No, El Chapo is. Is it? Is that SBF there? They moved El Chapo to ADX. I think he's in ADX. Okay. So I think, yeah, but I know for sure Diti is still there.

Starting point is 01:30:18 So maybe they're bunkeys. And by the way, his wife is still there, too. I mean, Maduro's wife is in the women's floor. Yeah, you can tell you can, you can, You can interview Jess on what's it like for like the strips or... They had some questions. Like she has dentures. What happens with the dentures?

Starting point is 01:30:37 I'm like, no, you get to keep your dentures. But if they break your shed or lock. Yeah, it's going to be tough. They're going to be tough, you know? Or is she having... Are they seeing each other? And I'm like, they cannot see their co-defendants. And they're not going to be seeing each other for a while.

Starting point is 01:30:51 Yeah, even if they... I mean, you can file motions with a BOP. And I remember some couples will have like once a month... visit in the visitation room, but it's not. They're not super concerned about your, your, your, your family. Yeah. It's not about your family. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:31:07 So, yeah, just should be my expert witness on women's custody. Yeah, strip searches too. On strip searches. Yeah. But I tell you, when I did my podcast just now, I was a guest in our podcast and the video on Instagram, the part that everybody appreciated the most, was the fact that I told him, like, listen, Maduro is, like, spreading his ass cheeks and squatting. Yeah, there's no special treatment.

Starting point is 01:31:37 No special treatment. And they were like, oh, my God, we feel so good that that's happening. I'm like, can you imagine? Justice has been served. Can you imagine, like, okay, just in general, it's humiliating. But you get used to it. Yeah. But we had no power.

Starting point is 01:31:52 We were powerless. Yeah, but to go from where he went, the height, the pinnacle of power, to, bend over, spread your... Lift your nuts. Cough, squat. Yeah. Lift up your feet. Lift up your foot.

Starting point is 01:32:05 Your left foot. Your left fucking foot. Oh, Jesus. And you're right. Come on. Cough. Cough. I want you to cuff for real.

Starting point is 01:32:12 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Rub your... Sorry. Rub your fingers through your hair. I know that. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:32:20 That I didn't have to go. I skip that part. But I would have to rub it and they do it again. Do it again. Do it again. Really? Come on. And you're like, get the fuck out of here.

Starting point is 01:32:27 Like, there's nothing in my foot. fucking air. I see guys arguing with them and bitching. I'm just, you know, I just put my feet up. I do the whole thing. You see, when we do the cooking show, we should do a strip search here so people have like, oh, we could, we should have a BOP guy come and do it. You got to do your ears. Your ears. And sometimes your hands to see if anything happened in your hands. Yeah. Well, when we do another episode in, uh, 2031, five years from now, another five years. Yeah. Yeah, it comes every five years, you know. When I see the, the, the, the audience, is slumping, I come in and I pick it up again.

Starting point is 01:33:01 You know what's funny is I would go through, you'd go through that with one CO, and then, you do, like, some are just like, all right, quick, boom, mom, okay. Some don't want to see it. Listen, I've actually come in where I walked in and took the, you know, took the uniform off, and then they're handing you, you know, you've got your, so you're taking your greens off. No, wait. No, you're taking your khakis off to get your greens on. Well, you get to wear your greens in.

Starting point is 01:33:32 Well, he's in orange, remember. Oh, right. So he's got to change from... No, I'm just thinking in Coleman, I'm thinking... No, you would take your clothes off, you put them here, and then you're naked, right? Yeah. So I've... It's just at the end they did the bananas.

Starting point is 01:33:44 Yes. So, okay, so I was going to say, so when you come back, I remember coming back in from visit, because that's really the one, when you come back from visit, that's when they think you've got something. Correct. I remember one time I came back from visit, I started taking my shirt at his... You know what? Don't even worry. Just go.

Starting point is 01:33:59 And I was like... like what I was so in shock I go just leave he's like well I don't want to see you naked just go there's like guards that were like yeah okay I had that happen like one time because there's no cameras there yeah it's just them it's just them um then they had that chair that never worked yeah you're supposed to sit in this chair and it's supposed to tell if you have anything metal in you it never fucking worked they like they paid probably 20 grand for this chair and the fucking thing just never worked it sat in the corner never lit up and people were they were like plug it in and then think, eh, if I get, don't worry about it, just skip it.

Starting point is 01:34:33 But yeah, it's, uh, so he's going through all that. Yeah. And that's. Humiliating. And some, because there's no privileges. No. No. I mean, there's some that you can buy, but the system is a system for everybody.

Starting point is 01:34:46 Yeah. I wonder if he can buy anything at this, but there. No, he's in the shoe. And he's under such strict, you know, these, everybody's probably, you know, going, doing exactly what they're supposed to do. Me? Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:34:59 And I was telling people, he's not there in the unit by himself. He's there with a bunch of people that are in their cells. And, you know, the shoe has a bunch of different cells. Yeah, but I understand. But he could be by himself in the cell. Absolutely. He's by himself. But the other inmates that are in other cells know that he's there.

Starting point is 01:35:17 Oh, of course. Because they've seen him coming and out. Yeah. So I'm like, I'm sure they're banging the doors and saying all kinds of shit all night. Could you imagine if there are Venezuelans there? Of course. They got to be kicking that door and going, yeah, you're a murderer, piece of shabah, all day long.

Starting point is 01:35:35 And it's typically loud anyway. Yeah, 24-7. You got the door, right? I mean, you got the window. You got the, I would do this, but I'm like that. Yeah, it matters like you could see his forehead, but most people will be able to see it through the window. And then the fishing with the line, they'll shoot,

Starting point is 01:35:56 They'll take something hard or whatever, like some wrapped up in, whatever, something like a domino or something, tied up with a string that they've pulled out of their uniform. And then they'll, they could do this. These guys are amazing. And it'll hit the wall and then shoot into the cell next year's. And then he does it. You're trying to get it to room number five, number five. Send me some coffee. Send me some coffee.

Starting point is 01:36:18 And then you eventually they get it to five. And then they just, they'll give me some coffee. They tie some coffee onto it, whatever, in a little. in an envelope, they'll put a couple scoops of coffee and they'll seal it up. And then they fish it back. They fish it back. You know what we should do? It's probably doing my research.

Starting point is 01:36:33 Because you imagine you're doing that right now? Bro, I want to do, because when this thing happened, I'm like, I have to show people how it is to be inside of a cell. Nobody knows what that is because that fucking metal mirror. You, I mean, you're so self-centered. And I say this is a compliment. Oh, you mean for me to be without a mirror? It's hard, bro. You don't know what I'm going through.

Starting point is 01:36:58 Well, I mean, you had that metal mirror. Oh, horrible. And it was all scratched up and you couldn't see yourself. Even if it was super, super shiny, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. It still got a slight, you know, it's like. I mean, you could see yourself like that. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:37:13 So I contacted a manufacturer of prison furniture. Mm-hmm. And they gave me a budget for like a bunk bed, a toilet with a sink, the mirror, the locker. everything. So I wanted to create a set where I could like tell people listen, this is what he's going through. And this is the bed and this is the toilet and this is kind of like how it goes. Dude, we should have an episode on something like that. What we can. You know what's so funny? That's the kind of thing you could rent out. Absolutely. People could make TikTok because, you know, there's somebody who has a, he has the private, the end, they built the interior of a

Starting point is 01:37:56 plane of like a you know a G6 or G or whatever those are and then you can you can rent it out like your and take photos and do ridiculous right so if you could do a cell like that where so these guys could do do the fights and the pulling you know pulling out a knife and people like you know i mean you do like the little child with a couple of tables there i mean you do the whole set up because people don't understand what it is like to be there and they don't understand the loud and the madness and the 24-7 it's Listen, it took me about two weeks before I stopped waking up in the morning and immediately reaching for my cell phone. The first few days, I was immediately going like, and I was like, you don't have your cell phone

Starting point is 01:38:37 dickhead. You're in fucking prison. You're in a jail cell right now. I was like, I'd wake up and roll over. You know, when you wake up in the morning, I'd wake up and think, where's my cell? Oh, my God. And you have the phantom ring. You got that you feel like the vibration on your leg.

Starting point is 01:38:51 And I'm, oh, no, I don't have. Yeah, it's just the guy. It's just, it's just my bunkey, but, uh, humping me, dry humping me. I love that. I love that. There's nothing more, more, uh, there's nothing sweeter than, or nothing more romantic than, than, uh, kissing a sleep, and waking up with a kiss with a kiss on their forehead, unless you're in prison. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:39:15 So it's, uh, March 17th, he's going to be an interesting day. He's going to go back to quote. He's going to be chained, and I'm sure if I can't fly out and be there, I would love to be there. Could you imagine how many? They camped. Listen, they were camping the night before to be able to go to the January 5th hearing. So you can either go into the main one, or they have an overflow room. I forget what they call it, but they have another room.

Starting point is 01:39:42 But you see the video? So Sean was like, you're either, he was either it. Sometimes he'd get in and sometimes he'd get the overflow. So he was like, but he was there every single day. Yeah, because you can record. It's a federal court hearing, but you can take notes and kind of see what's going on and walk out and describe what's going on. It's trending, trending topic right now in the Latino community.

Starting point is 01:40:02 I think trending topic in the American community. Yeah, not as much, but yeah. I mean, I think Diti was more trending. I think what the capture was just everybody was just like, wow. Like, I mean, what a flawless. That's why I mean. I mean, for the Venezuelans, we didn't admire how it was done because we were so excited about what happened that we didn't sit down and think about it. But for the Americans, he was like, we don't give a shit that they got Maduro.

Starting point is 01:40:28 Holy fuck. We have the strongest armed forces in the world. I mean, these guys went in and out and nobody knew. No. I mean, it's plucked him. In and out. He's perfect. He had 40, was it, was it 40 Cubans?

Starting point is 01:40:44 I forget how many the security forces were. Yeah. Yeah, they were killed. So one of the guys did an interview and they were like, they threw some kind of grenade. And we all started bleeding out of the nose. And I'm like, yeah, well, you know, that's what they do. You know, a Venezuelan comedian was saying like, dude, their uniforms are worth like a, what we pay for a forerunner here in Venezuela, like a Toyota four runner truck, you know. I mean, it's, it was flawless.

Starting point is 01:41:11 It was phenomenal. So we'll see what happens. maybe I don't know if I can make it to the next podcast in 2031 and maybe in the next ship out of here we do a remote but we have how how's it has a Wi-Fi how's the Wi-Fi oh I'm doing the Starlink you know I'm doing Elon Musk I'm you know what's funny is that I think at a couple days for now is it um they're about to go I want to say art art you not I want to say arduous but it's Artemis, is it Artemis that they're about to, they're about to take off and go around the moon,

Starting point is 01:41:51 or go to the moon and back? With these guys, SpaceX? Yeah. Is it, I think it's Artemis, and I think they're taking off in a couple of days, in a few days. Are they deporting some people there? No, no, they're bringing them back.

Starting point is 01:42:05 They're not leaving anyway. They're not leaving. Listen, we're going to take all this group of undocumented people, and we're going to put them on Argymos, and we'll see who it goes. Artemis, right? Artemis 2. Artemis 2.

Starting point is 01:42:16 Early 2026. Early 20. Yeah, no, I thought it was happening in a few days. I mean, it's early 2026. Yeah. Well, I know, but I mean, I thought they had a date. What's the date? This is AI overview.

Starting point is 01:42:29 The date is targeting no earlier than February 6th. Not earlier. No. It's targeting no earlier for February 6th. Super Bowl weekend. And I believe it's like five people that they're, Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:42:46 Yeah. They're just going to go up there, go around the moon a few times, come back. There's no doubting my mind that this isn't, yeah, yeah. This dude's catching and he's guys landing rockets. They may not colonize another country, but they're definitely colonizing another planet. Yeah, at some point. Yeah. I mean, you know.

Starting point is 01:43:02 Well, you know, they say the first, what is the first, is it trillionaire? The first, the world's first trillionaire. They said will be the person that can go out, grab an asteroid. one of these asteroids and bring it back because they can just just almost any of those asteroids will have like more minerals and shir minerals and minerals metals more than like that have ever been collected on on the planet like to bring it back and it doesn't take much to to nudge it if you nudge it in the right direction like you don't have to yeah just and it'll you know that's like if you give us something to push it starts

Starting point is 01:43:39 going, you know, so that they can bring it by... What do you think about Elon Musk? I love Elon Musk. Do you like him? Yeah. Even the way he talks and his point of view and his rhetoric and... I think he's... I'm not sure what the rhetoric.

Starting point is 01:43:56 I don't know what you're talking about. I think I'm just overly impressed by the things that he's done that I'm just really, really impressed by it. I'm not sure what the rhetoric is. I mean, there's a lot of things that he does like that I'm like, I don't know. Listen, it's the problem is you just, here's what I hate about people is that you can sit here and say, hey, this person, he believes this and I hate everything about him because of this. It's like, wait, if you list out all the things, all of his belief system, you can say, okay, well, I'm actually agree with 91% of everything. Correct.

Starting point is 01:44:36 That you don't like this that he has had at this specific time. But most people will be like, oh, I hate his guts. He's a horrible. Wait a minute. You're okay with all of this. It's this one little thing. You know, so I don't really know what that is. I don't really understand why people despise him.

Starting point is 01:44:51 I mean, I think the guy is fucking brilliant. Yeah, I don't understand why some people just despise him. I don't get it. And they drive a Tesla. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But I, you know, I think maybe the fact that he's got like all these kids from all these different women, that seems odd to me.

Starting point is 01:45:08 but then he's also, you know, a billionaire. So you're like, hey, you can do what he wants. If he wants to do it and the women are okay with it, have as many kids as you want. Like, whatever. His paycheck support. Yeah. It's not like anybody's hurting.

Starting point is 01:45:19 I mean, I wish my dad was Elon Musk. Yeah. So, yeah, so, I mean, I'm just super impressed by all of the different companies that he's started, the things that he's doing. And let's face it, if I gave you $10 billion, and I don't know what he's worth, I think he's a billionaire, right? Yeah. So if I gave you $10,000.

Starting point is 01:45:38 billion dollars. You would buy five houses around the world. You'd have probably a couple planes. You'd have like some super yacht. You would, you'd be skiing. I'm assuming you could, you'd learn to ski if you don't ski. You'd ski. You'd surf. You'd, you'd probably just do insane crazy shit. For the rest of your life, that's what it would be. And Elon Musk said, no, you know, we should colonize another planet. And to me, that's like, what? Yeah, the guy's committed. You can sell everything you have and live the rest of your life like a fucking rock star. Every single day you can have an event planned.

Starting point is 01:46:15 You can travel for the rest of your life. You cannot exhaust the amount of money that you have just on vacations. And you decide, hey, I think for humanity, I think that we should at least be on another planet just in case. Maybe we can terraform it. Maybe we can build it and live underneath the ground. I don't know exactly, but I'll figure that out. I think we should be able to leave this planet just in case there's a, just in case something happened, because let's face it, it's not like it hasn't happened before.

Starting point is 01:46:46 It's not really like, to be honest with you, we're kind of overdue for a harsh strike. And I forget, which I watched some YouTube video that said, look, every so many, you know, million years, the earth is struck by something that's basically in life. So, and so, you know, it's like, okay, well, in, and they were basically saying that we were kind of overdue for it. I don't know who does that calculation, but I'm assuming it's someone smarter than me. So, and so he, that's what you chose. And this is also a guy that works. It's not like, hey, this is something I think I'll do and put some guys on. He's working 80 hours a week. He's sleeping. And anybody that works around him or sees him, they're like, this dude's

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Starting point is 01:48:50 See site for details. He's killing himself to make this. And he's constantly risking his fortune to make it happen. And guess what? And I'm going to leave you with this. he's an immigrant he is an immigrant he's a

Starting point is 01:49:06 wait he's from south africa what do they call afriana yeah and they call him africanas I'm sure if that's a derogatory term or not but yeah yeah he's from south africa

Starting point is 01:49:16 he's from south africa so that's the power of immigration well channel immigration Jeff Bezos is an immigrant I don't know about Jeff Bezos absolutely his father is Cuban I believe you

Starting point is 01:49:30 was he born here or he came over? Well, he's adopted, actually, by a Cuban family. Yeah, his father, Miguel, Mike Bezos is a Cuban immigrant. So that doesn't make Jeff Bezos. He was probably born here. You're not where you're born. I was born in Spain.

Starting point is 01:49:46 I was a German Spanish. It's how you're raised, is your culture. Your belief system. Where was Jeff Bezos born? I know Miguel is Latino. I'm going to New Mexico, Jeff Bezos. New Mexico. So, and Elon Musk is basically did.

Starting point is 01:50:04 So Elon Musk came over illegally? No. Undocumented, Matt. I'm going to. No, actually, I think in his case, I think it was documented. I think he came over illegal. I know he lapsed. He lapsed.

Starting point is 01:50:16 He lapsed, I think it was like his student visa or something like that that had a lapse on. Pretty sure he's a citizen. No, he's now. Of course he's a citizen. But back on those days, the rules. Well, let's face it, if they deport him, he could be deported. reported to Mars. I think that's what he's, I think that's why he's like,

Starting point is 01:50:36 I'm going to build my house up in there and we'll see what happens. Yeah. Then I'll bring my 27 kids, which I have numbered, so I don't have to learn their names, which is kind of insane. Well, yeah. You know, eventually we'll get there. Are we good? We're good, Kobe?

Starting point is 01:50:52 Yep. Next episode, we're going to, what, make a run to Walmart Publix, pick up some. I'll bring this stuff. What is it? Honey buns, crackers. No, honey buns, no. We gotta eat something healthy. Damn, honey bones.

Starting point is 01:51:04 Healthy. Listen, everything that came out of the commissary had so much sodium. Yeah, well, but... There was nothing. We'll make the burritos, like the big burritos. Okay. We'll make... The big burritos will make an apple pie and we'll make a mofongo.

Starting point is 01:51:23 A mafungo. I've listened, what a ridiculous. Okay, and yeah, these guys... What I mean what are ridiculous? I mean, you've never heard that anywhere. heard that anywhere other than prison. It's a Puerto Rican dish. Is it?

Starting point is 01:51:33 Yeah. You were married to a Puerto Rican, bro. I know. Oh, listen, they ate all kinds of horrible. Yeah, Mofongo. And you are going to eat that food. I'm going to taste it. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:51:43 What about, what about a cheesecake? And we're going to make a cheesecake, too. You know, but we need a bucket of ice. And you have, you have a creamer. Well, what's the creamer that they use? Come on, it's the, I have it right now. Yeah, exactly. Is that?

Starting point is 01:51:58 And these things will be prepared and ready during the podcast. Oh, absolutely. Then they'll be, like, ready to eat by the time we end. 100%. You know how sick I would get at? And I've eaten some cheesecake. I mean, the whole cheese. Like, I ate the cheese, the whole thing.

Starting point is 01:52:12 Yeah. Dude, they're delicious. You just feel like a rock is in your stomach. Yeah. I mean, the amount of saturated fat that is on that creamer is enough to kill an elephant. But it does taste like an amazing cheesecake. It does. And the guy that makes it sells it for like 10 bucks.

Starting point is 01:52:31 I used to have this guy named, we called Emotion. His name was, his name was, oh shit, Doyle, Christopher Doyle. He used to make. White dude. Yeah, yeah. He wasn't art of that for a while. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:52:44 He used to make iced coffee. I mean, he had a whole thing, and you get it, and it was like, this is like an iced coffee from Starbucks. This is a Starbucks. And he would have, like, foam on it, and he'd whip it up, and it's like, Yeah, this is pretty amazing So we'll have you guys have a microwave here? No We'll bring a microwave yeah

Starting point is 01:53:05 Yeah, we'll bring it one And we'll be cooking here But you are we'll cover the table With some we'll bring some plastic We'll be some garbage bags Yeah yeah We'll set up the camera so we can see you prepare it You guys can tell some stories about it

Starting point is 01:53:19 I think that'll be pretty funny But you have to understand We're doing this full-blown prison style Like we're going to make our own cutting utensils because you don't have knives in time. Oh yeah, yeah, they would they would get the lid of a you get the lid and they'd yeah they'd roll it like yeah the lid of a fucking whatever a can of tuna and then they bend it over loop it to halfway so it's it's half the can and so you could grip it

Starting point is 01:53:47 and you could do this you could or like these plastic mirrors you would break the mirror cutting anything plastic you could break and and sharpen it and that was your your uh And we bring a spork. So you can eat it with a pork. Yeah. Pretty cool. Yeah. You'll have the full-blown.

Starting point is 01:54:04 And then after that, we'll give you. You'll have the whole prison experience. You'll have the whole prison experience, COVID. You'll be able, you said your wife is a therapist. She'll have her work out. Good times. Good times. I remember my first.

Starting point is 01:54:21 I remember my first. I don't want to talk about it. Did you imagine? But you came from work. I don't want to talk about it. What is it? The crime game? Did you ever see, wait, did you ever see a training day?

Starting point is 01:54:35 Training day, yeah. When the guys are talking about getting your shit pushed in. Yeah, I remember the first time I got my shit pushed in. He was like, what the fuck is going on? Was it during the training day? Throw them on the top. I see it, but I don't know. They throw them on the top.

Starting point is 01:54:52 Yeah, well, you'll have that experience, Kobe. You'll have the full-blown experience. You'll get the package. You get the pool package. Hey, you guys, I appreciate you watching. Do you me favor, hit the subscribe button, hit the bell so you get notified of videos just like this. If you want to get in contact with Juan,

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