Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Illegal Police Headshot Leaves Kingpin Fighting for Her Life

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:30 I started using meth when I was 14. I was like 13, 14. And I had a little bit of an eating disorder. I had body dysmorphia and I was worried about my weight. I was always taking like diet pills and things like that. And so I was dating this guy and he was like, do you want to try meth? I'm like, yeah, sure. And it wasn't like, it was it wasn't, it wasn't, you know, you would think it would be like, oh, you smoke some weed or do something like that. Now, I was just, I was like, oh, is it like diet pills? And he's like, like, yeah, it is. I said, great. Give it to me. Did my friend. How old is this guy? You're 13 or 14 years old. He's the same age. He's, he's like a year older than me age-wise, but in the same grade. And he had an older brother that, you know, had access to drugs. But he's like, yeah, you know, here you go. Do a line. I'm like, cool. I did it. I'm doing, are you dating a guy that was like in a trailer park? Like, what, what middle-class American has access to them at 13? 14. His dad was a cop. Wow. Okay. Okay. The city's not like Tampa. No, his dad's a cop. My dad's an attorney. We have, you know, like, we both come from good families. To this day, both of our, his parents, I believe, are still married. I know my parents are still married. Like, there's no excuse. We just were not, we were fearless. Just this is back in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:01:57 you know it's just it's not like today where people are like oh I'm going to die a fentanyl right I was like oh it's like diet pills great sign me up I didn't even have us you you didn't have to talk me into anything it wasn't like he was like oh you got to do some drugs I was like yes let's do the drugs but it you know so so I was like okay cool but I wasn't I wasn't the type of drug user that wanted to go and get high with a bunch of people because I didn't like for people really I like to go ride my horses and do all my stuff with that. But I didn't, I didn't really get too heavily into it until I was 16. He turned 16 before I did about a year. So 15, he's 16 on 15. We're running out to Kansas to pick up drugs and do all this stuff. And that's what it really got going was once he
Starting point is 00:02:44 turned 16 and we were mobile. His older brother was friends with some bikers out there. And so that's how I I got into that. But when I didn't come, you know, I wasn't the high school girl that was like, oh, let's go to the parties and stuff. I never went to the parties because I was at horse shows. I showed horses all over the country. So I didn't like hang out with anybody. So there was nobody that was like, oh, yeah, she gets high because nobody knew. But I was like, I was running 10 miles a day. I was lettering in academics. I was doing a thousand setups. I was like all over the place. I was like, yeah, I'm doing it. But I was also like super ADHD. So like when I wasn't, I felt like I wanted to jump out of my skin and run away.
Starting point is 00:03:26 And then I would get high and I was like, I could do everything and be cool about it. You know what I mean? I was just like, oh, this is the greatest thing ever. And so eventually at some point, you know, I made friends with people that were cooks. And I was able to get them some, you know, some ingredients. And so I always had pretty much whatever I wanted. And it wasn't a big deal to me. There was never a part of me that was like, oh, my God, you know, this is so.
Starting point is 00:03:53 bad. I shouldn't be doing this. I'm like, because in my brain, I was like, this helps me. I mean, I'm lettering in academics. I'm able to run 10 miles. I'm, I'm able to do all these things, go ride four horses, go do whatever. I'm taking care of everything and nobody knows. Nobody knows anything. I can go down in the bathroom and do what I need to do and then I'm cool for the next day. Okay. So yeah, it's not like you're prostituting yourself. on 56 and Bush Boulevard to get the money. The money is simply you're just swapping out chemicals for drugs that are very accessible. And you're just really self-medicating.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. So it was more of a self-medication type thing. And then I letter in academics. I got into college. I did my four-year undergrad at UMKC. And then I got into law school.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I took the L-SAT, got into law school. I did one year law school there. and when I got into law school I was like you know it might be time to like stop doing drugs maybe it which was this stupidest thing all of it was stupid
Starting point is 00:05:03 but so I'm going to get in the law school and go through withdrawal and come off all this stuff that I've been using for years and then I'm going to be successful like it was bad timing and so you know I started old friend but that guy's gone oh he's long gone yeah that's
Starting point is 00:05:20 high school that's that was We have gone on to college and now law school. But so I was in this mindset that I wasn't doing drugs, that now I'm sober, you know, which is true. It's complete bullshit because I was still going out partying. I was still doing. I was still drinking. Maybe it's a acid on the weekend. You know, I'm just, I'm just doing my thing, but I'm not doing that.
Starting point is 00:05:44 So in my brain, I've stopped using drugs because that was my drugs. So if I use other things and drink and do whatever, then, you know, it's a big deal. right that's how my brain processed everything which is my brain is part of my whole problem but because I'm like no this is cool it's just fine you know no big deal but um so then um I ended up quitting law school but I did the first year and I was like this is not for me but I was also going through a lot of emotional stuff with probably because I had I'd been using drugs for years and I'm going through coming off drugs you know looking back I'm like that was just terrible timing so Do your parents have any idea?
Starting point is 00:06:23 Any of this is happening? So at one point, one of my horses got really sick, and he collicked. And so I was at the barn, and I was walking this horse. We're, you know, trying to get him. What does that mean? Collect. So if a horse can't throw up and they can't shit, their stomach will turn into a knot, and they'll die. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:45 And these are show horses. So it was not like, it was a big deal. And they were my babies. So I'd spent all day at the barn and I ended up leaving the barn. I went over to a friend's house. One of the few friends' house that knew anything about any of what I did. And so I get to his house and he had like an intervention with his family. His dad was also a cop.
Starting point is 00:07:10 And so they have this big intervention and they're like, hey, we know everything. We know everything that you're doing. I'm like, you know, I don't even know what to say. I'm not even admitting to it at this point. I'm like, what? I'm just kind of taking it all in. The phone rings. I had a cell phone since I was 16.
Starting point is 00:07:33 The phone rings. It's my dad. And he's like, hey, your horse is sick. And I have him in the trailer and I need you to meet me on front street so we can get in the truck. So you can get in the truck so you can come with me to Columbia to get this emergency surgery. because we had to have him cut open and have his intestines cleaned out by hand.
Starting point is 00:07:52 So you have one shot with this thing. Before he starts colican, you got one shot. Back in those days, there was nobody, there was no bets close that could possibly do this surgery. So you had to shoot him up with a lot of drugs and then just pray that he made it for the trip because if they go down, that's the end. You got to put him down on the road. So it's a whole thing. So it was really stressful.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Anyway, my friend's dad drives me. to go meet my dad on front street. And he gets in the car and gets in the truck. And my dad's sitting there and he's like, what? And he's like, your daughter has a lot to tell you. And do not let her out of this truck until she tells you everything. And my dad's like, what? So I'm like, hi.
Starting point is 00:08:37 And so I get in this truck. We're now about to do like three hours in the car with the truck, the trailer, and the horse. So my dad's driving along and he's like, what do you want to tell me? And I was like, I've done a lot of drugs a lot. And meth is my favorite drug. And I've done a lot of meth. He's like, how do you do it?
Starting point is 00:09:00 And I was like, every way. Because I mean, I was shooting up at the time. I was doing all of it. I didn't. I mean, I was not afraid of it at all. Right. And he's like, okay, what do you want to do? And I was like, I guess I'll go to rehab.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I don't know. I guess I'll go to rehab. I was like, my friend, he was just at rehab and this place has really good ice cream. So maybe I could go there. And my dad's like, okay. So what I didn't know is that the guy that I was dating at this time was putting heroin in the that I was shooting. And so I didn't realize that I had now a lot of heroin, like heroin and meth in my system. I wasn't, like, huge fake shots up for me. And I'm like, yeah, cool, whatever. I wasn't paying attention to that. And so we end up in Columbia. The horse gets the surgery. It's now the next morning at 5 a.m. And my dad, we had to leave the horse there.
Starting point is 00:10:02 So we had to drive back in the truck. And now it's Saturday. It's like maybe Friday or Saturday. So it's too late to, like, go to rehab. You know, we're going to go to rehab on Monday. So Friday night sets in, and I'm in my bedroom. I'm sweating. And I'm starting, I think it was sometime into the weekend.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I start hallucinating. I thought somebody, I thought a car pulled up next to my bed and, like, people got out and started partying. And I was like, I can't do this right now. And then I was army crawling to the bathroom, throwing up. I was really sick. And I was like, what is happening to me? And I think it was Sunday night.
Starting point is 00:10:37 This guy called me. He was like, I need to tell you something. I'm like, okay? And he's like, this guy has been putting heroin in your mat that he, that he knew you were shooting and so you're coming off a heroin. That's what you're doing right now. And I'm like, fuck. You know, if I would have known that's what it was, I might have gotten myself up and gone to try to find something. You know what I'm saying? Like, I didn't realize that that's what was going on, which is probably a huge blessing, but it was horrible. It was the worst thing that I've ever been through.
Starting point is 00:11:08 So I was like, I'm good on the heroin thing. You know, that's all for you guys. I'm good. So I went to the rehab. I ate all the ice cream. you gain a bunch of weight, everything, you know how you do. But, and then, but I thought the rehab was really stupid because, you know, all you do is sit around and talk about the drugs that you did all day long. So in 30 days, and I'm outpatient because by the time I get there, they're like, well, you've detoxed yourself. I'm like, yeah. And they're like, okay, well, you can do outpatient. You can't do inpatient.
Starting point is 00:11:40 You're already detox. You're already, by Monday, it's like, we're already like almost five days detox. She's like, you don't need to be inpatient. So I'm like, okay, cool. So I did the outpatient and did the meeting stuff and all that stuff. And it wasn't too long after that that I was right back into it until I got to law school. So my parents are much older. My mom was 38 when she had me.
Starting point is 00:12:03 My dad is five years younger than her, but they're older. I'm my dad's only daughter. My brother was a super good kid. So nobody alerted them to the fact that kids are crazy. and we'll do some really weird things. And so they just kind of, you know, they're just super good people. And, you know, when you're super good people, you just think, oh, this isn't happening. My kids, but when I first told my dad, I was using drugs, he at one point, he was like, you know, I just thought maybe you were crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:32 It's like, that's fair. At least this is fixable. Yeah. You know, I mean, oh, it's not a mental thing. Well, it's a mental thing, but, you know, maybe we can work with this. You know, it's okay. We can get through this. My dad's super cool. He's super laid back. And he's just, that's how he approaches things.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Okay, we have this problem. Let's find the solution. And then we're going to move forward. And we're united front. And that's how we're going to be. And so that's how he's always been with me. And so I did the law school thing. I quit law school. I was drinking a whole lot. And I one day, I think it was about two months after I quit law school. I was still living. at my parents' house. And I remember I got up and I was like, I'm going to be a realtor. That's what I'm going to do today. So I got up and I go upstairs and my mom's sitting there and she's like, what are you doing today, honey? And I was like, I think I'm going to go be a realtor. She's like, you're going to be the best realtor. I'm like, I am. So I went out and got my real estate license. I got ruled in a class and I got my real estate license and I started doing that.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I did really well with that. And at some point in there, I met my now ex-husband. who drank a lot of whiskey with me. And, you know, I wasn't using drugs. I was away from drugs completely at this point. No Coke, no nothing. It was just whiskey. You know, that was my new thing. I was in love with whiskey.
Starting point is 00:13:59 So we were married for about a year and a half when I started thinking about a divorce. And then I was pregnant. And I was like, yeah, well, I guess I'm going to, I guess here I am. I guess this is happening. I was like 26. I remember telling my dad, I'm like, I'm pregnant. He's like, this is wonderful. I like, you know, I told him like I was a child.
Starting point is 00:14:20 I was like, I'm pregnant. And he's like, this is great. I want a grandkid. I'm like, oh, okay, I guess we're doing this. You know, I guess, okay. I never really wanted kids. You know, I was just like, all right, we're doing this thing. So I can't stand my ex-husband.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Cannot stand this guy. You know what I mean? Not, I mean, how did that come about? Like, I'm assuming at one point you found him appealing. I did. He was funny and he was fun and we like had a great time and then I got sober. I stopped drinking and there was nothing cool. I thought I was in love with you but it was the alcohol. I love whiskey. It's not you. It has nothing to do with you apparently. And so I was like, yeah, this sucks. You know, I don't know what I'm going to do, but that was a whole mess. And so. I was completely clean and for a good four years of my daughter's life. And by the time she was about, I don't know, probably two, three months old,
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Starting point is 00:16:26 close to you, please go to conicsonterio.ca. I mean, these kids started more houses because I'm like, listen, that we're doing this and you're coming because your dad sucks. And so it's just me and you kid. It's still at the house. I'm just like pretending like he's not there. You know, I'm just going to keep it moving. And what is he doing?
Starting point is 00:16:46 He's a realtor too. No, he's not. He's a, he worked for FedEx, National Freight. He was a diesel mechanic. Oh, I thought you said you met him when you were doing the real estate. When I was in real estate, he, but he, he was, we had mutual friends. We all went on a float trip, drink a lot of whiskey. And I was like, you're the funnest person I've ever been around, ever.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Like, you were so funny and cool. And I just stayed drunk a lot. So, you know, that didn't occur to me. And I was like, you know, six months later, he's like, let's get married. I'm like, awesome. Go to Vegas and get married. And we did. Like, you know, we drank the whole way there and the whole way home, you know, bought a house on land. And then I was pregnant with my daughter. I'm like, this is happening. This is really, we're doing this thing, you know? And I look back in my life, like, leading up to that. And I'm like, well, it's kind of shocking I made it that far. It's crazy as I was as a teenager just doing whatever. It's amazing. I was like, oh, I made it, you know, okay, I'm doing okay. You know, this isn't too bad. And then
Starting point is 00:17:53 my daughter, she was like 18 months old. She could walk and talk well. She'd be showing houses. She'd walk in and she'd be like, what beautiful carpet this is or what beautiful cabinets these are. And I was selling a bunch of condos downtown Kansas City. and I had investors that loved her. And they were like, we bring your daughter today? I'm like, really? So, like, one day I'm driving down Broadway and I've got like a six-seater golf cart.
Starting point is 00:18:21 And she's sitting on my lap and there used to be the Folgers coffee plant that was right there. And so I'm cruising down Broadway. I got investors on the back. I got my daughter in my lap. It was right around the time of Britney Spears getting caught with her kids on our lap
Starting point is 00:18:32 when she was driving. And so I'm driving past Folgers. And they're like, hey, Britney. I'm like, shut up. But anyway, So she showed all kinds of stuff with me. We had a really good time. And I didn't work a ton during the week because we were busy.
Starting point is 00:18:49 We were going to the zoo. We were going to oceans of fun. And we had a great time. But around the time, she was about four. I was like, I can't do this marriage thing anymore. So. And I remember the day where I was like, this is it. I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:19:04 It was like we had taken her to the zoo in the morning, came back. He started playing video games. I got on the tractor, brush hog, you know the whole entire pasture i'm 10 acres rush log the whole pasture and then get on the other mower and finish mode everything and then i come in and clean the house do the laundry get the kid food and then he's like comes in and tries put a hand on my leg and i'm like fuck you absolutely don't touch me don't don't do it so i told my dad i was like i can't do it because i tried to do it when lily was too and my dad was like you have to wait till she can walk and talk really well before you
Starting point is 00:19:40 try to do this because without going into details, his parents are crazy and he's pretty vindicted. So anyway, at four, I was like, I can't do this anymore. And, you know, you're not wrapping your brain around the fact that you're going to be stuck with this person for the duration of the until they're 18. You got an 18 year sentence with this person. So, yeah. And that was a mess. And so once we got divorced, he ended up getting with another. girl that decided that she absolutely hated me.
Starting point is 00:20:14 She started filing restraining orders against me. And the first one, my dad was really pissed. And I was like, I don't, I've never seen this girl in person. I don't know how you, this is crazy. Like, how do you file a restraining? So we get to court. And this girl proceeds to tell the judge that she's never seen me in person. And he threw her out of the courtroom and threw out the case.
Starting point is 00:20:38 And she busted through the double doors with her arm. and throws a timber tantrum on the floor in the courthouse. I've never seen anything like it. I knew that she proceeded to file five more restraining orders against me. She just kept going back and filing. So what, did the same judge? Does he keep just kicking him out? Hicking him out until the very last one where he's like,
Starting point is 00:21:00 okay, he calls my ex-husband up to his, he's like, Mr. Morgan, you're going to have to do some work here because this is the mother of your child. and this is your new wife and she's not the mother. So, you know, he's like, I'm going to give Ms. Morgan something. She hasn't even asked for her. I'm thinking, what are I going to get? And he's like, I'm going to give her a restraining order against her.
Starting point is 00:21:23 He's like, Miss Benjamin at the time, Miss Benjamin. When you were at a soccer game with his daughter and the mother shows up, you're going to pick up your keys and get in your car and you're going to leave. well I never asked for a restraining order so there was nothing in place for me to actually you know back this thing up it all sounded good but at the end of the day it really it didn't work out like that and so you know they continued to do all kinds of crazy stuff and and like I'd be at the soccer games with my daughter and they'd call the cops and even the cops would show them and be like what are we doing here I was like basically you're here just for show you're just here to
Starting point is 00:22:00 humiliate me and to make a scene so that I don't want to come back to soccer games that's all you're doing at this point. But that's a really tough deal. That's hard to deal with. You didn't see this coming beforehand. This guy wasn't like you didn't, there were no signs this guy was an idiot prior to this. Oh, he's an idiot.
Starting point is 00:22:21 But I didn't think he had this much energy. Okay. Okay. Because it was mostly playing video games and sit down the couch. Yeah. So I mean like the effort and the energy that went behind so much of this. stuff was almost impressive to me. So I was like, I got somebody who did have the energy. Exactly. Yes. And so she, you know, she wanted my daughter to be her daughter and she wanted me to be gone. And so we were week on, week off with custody. And with all of this going on, it just got to
Starting point is 00:22:56 where it was too much for me. And I was getting really, I was incredibly depressed. You're going to get, I mean, it's just when it's like that and you have to exchange at the police station and you, and you don't know if the cops are going to show up and start, you know, because they call them and they, because they called them on me so many times. And like every single time the cops are like, I don't understand what I'm doing here. Well, neither just anybody else. So I don't know. I don't know what to tell you because I'm the mom and I'm here to pick up my daughter. And, I mean, there was a lot of stories in between that was just absolutely crazy. But, but anyway, so that is where the depression really started kicking in, anxiety, depression. So when she went to her dad,
Starting point is 00:23:34 I started losing my mind and I went back to my first love, which is Matt. I was actually, I started off with ADHD meds. I went to the doctor. I got Adderall and Xanax and got back on the ADHD. I actually had a real ADHD med prescription. So that didn't do it for me because I remembered the old ways, the old in days when, you know, I had something actually works. And so I ran into a friend that from the olden days and he was like, do you want some? I'm like, yep.
Starting point is 00:24:13 And that's all it took. Because, you know, if you have been an addict in your past and you step away from it, you get cleaned up, when you go back, I think it's 20 times worse. Like physically, and maybe drugs were different at that point. You know what I mean? Like things changed and I had changed. And so when I was. went back to it, it was, it was the most slippery slope you've ever seen. What do you mean? My addiction was unbelievable when I went back to it. So, so I'd have my daughter week on,
Starting point is 00:24:48 week off. When I had her, I shut it down. I wasn't doing anything. You know, I'd spend, I had my week with her. But when she'd go back to her dad's house, like, the minute I dropped her off, I was like, somebody needs to come get me high, like right now. Like, I need to do this. So, so I did. And, you know, as your addiction grows, you look, and as you're older, you know, it's interesting because we shop at Costco and stuff like that. And you buy everything in bulk because you don't want to run out. Like, it's, I have so much crap at my house that I buy in bulk. Like, everything I get is in bulk, like ridiculous amounts of bulk. And that was my mentality because I wanted to make sure I had it at all times.
Starting point is 00:25:30 And so I started buying more and more and more of it. And then, you know, people that were close to me knew. that I could get a lot of money. And so it was just me and a couple people that I was like, all right, sure, let's do this. And it, you know, it really wasn't that big of a deal I didn't think. I mean, you know, I just felt like it was just such a little deal in my head. Like, I mean, really it wasn't that big a deal.
Starting point is 00:26:00 But you didn't think it was a big deal when you were 14 in doing math. Exactly. I mean, but I also fell asleep one day. I took a long nap and I woke up, you know, seven, eight hours later to a whole bunch of phone calls and text messages. Everybody, nobody could find anything. And I was sleeping with it. So I kind of started realizing that maybe I was a bigger problem than I thought for myself and probably the whole city. You took a nap in the whole city?
Starting point is 00:26:35 city went down. The town is dry. Why? I don't know. I'm like, oh, I don't, I don't know where anything is. It might, I bet it will show up in a little bit. You know, I just didn't really tell many. I was like, oh, yeah, I don't have anything at all. Because I just didn't tell people. I didn't want them to come over. Whatever. But, um, so at one point, um, there was a guy that I was introduced to. And this part all happened like within a month. and a half. It was, it was a weird, interesting thing. Like, there was, there was some Mexicans that got busted and there was a whole weird deal with that. And I was like, hmm, it's time. It's time to get, get away. You know, this is. What do you mean there were some Mexican? So you were buying
Starting point is 00:27:22 from some Mexicans and they got busted? One of the brothers got busted. And I was like, oh, yeah, this is, this is about to get ugly around here. I thought you were just getting stuff from somebody used to know. Was that a guy, a Mexican? And yeah. Oh, okay. I don't know. That you've been a childhood friend.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I thought he must mix. The first was just a friend. That was just a friend. And then I went on and, you know, people that can network really while, you have this ability to find whatever it is that you want to find and whatever quantity that you want to find. So it started started off with a friend that ended up with Mexicans. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:28:04 you talk to Billy next door and then you talk to his friend Jerry who knows a guy named Pablo. And the next thing you know, you're buying directly from Mayo Zimbada, the head of the Sittaloa cartel. I know exactly what you're saying. Isn't that how it always works? I've heard that a thousand times. Exactly. Yeah. And that's just it.
Starting point is 00:28:25 It's really not that you need. Next time you're next thing you know, you deal with the cartel. You know, it slips up on you. These things happen. You know, they just do. but um so i was introduced to a guy that um i'd known him for maybe a month and a half and he was like hey can you get anything i'm like no i can't get anything at all and so but he kept kind of coming around he was friends with the guy that i was friends with and so um it people like everybody
Starting point is 00:28:56 kept trying to get a hold of me for stuff and i'm like ready to be completely out of it i'm like I don't know anybody's talking about this point. Like, I'm done, done. Like, it's, it's over. This would have been December of 2013. I'm like, I'm out. I don't want any part. I'm like, I don't know where anything's at. I can't get anything. Well, people don't take no for an answer when it comes to that. You know, that's, they're like, yeah, you do. You know how to get it. I'm like, I don't know how to get anything. I don't know how to do at all. So, um, we have, we have the one guy that I, I knew for about a month and a half. And he's friends with this other guy. So in jay, January, other guy starts texting me and he's trying to get me to go out with them and trying
Starting point is 00:29:36 to get to like hook up business partner wise. And I'm like, I'm not interested in either, but thank you. Like, no, I'm good. So this goes on like through January of 2014. And it was probably the last week of January, this guy got really pissed off at me. And he starts sending me pages of text messages explaining to me of what he's going to go and tell the feds. Now, this is, you know, what an interesting way to take a rejection. And, you know, it's really kind of baffled me to this very day is that, like, you went, like, this is a guy that was selling a bunch of people out of a hotel in Carney. It was, the, Carney was right.
Starting point is 00:30:26 He's selling a whole bunch of stuff out of here out of its hotel. and I'm like, why do you want anything to do with me? Just leave me alone. His girlfriend lived at the hotel with him. We're not going on a date. I don't want to be any of this, Matt. And I'm not going to come to a hotel and want any part of it. But anyway, so he keeps sending me these text messages of what he's going to go to the beds with.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Well, you know, I would flash back to law school to where I was like, that's hearsay. I mean, first of all, like, this is what you're going to do? Like, this is what you're saying? Like, you know, you're in a situation where, like, people are like, you do the crime. You do the crime. You better do the time. I was like, well, this is, I don't even know what to say to this. You know, I'm like, but he's going through and he's giving me details of that he's going
Starting point is 00:31:14 to tell them I'm the king pen and that I'm doing all this stuff and that I'm acting like a king pen and I'm running this huge organization. Has he been arrested? This guy. You're just saying I'm just going to go in and do this. Yeah. Unless you and I, what? Or start hooking up and start selling, start doing some business.
Starting point is 00:31:38 You're right. Yeah. And when I tell you the detail that I would love to have this phone. I wish I had this phone because I didn't even really show anybody this. I'm just, I remember standing in my garage smoking a cigarette and I'm like, what the fuck? Like, I've seen people get upset with rejection, but I've never seen anything like this, but I'm like, he's going to go to the cops and just tell them this stuff. I was like, well, you know, if they don't catch me with anything, then it won't matter. You know, I mean, like, what's he going to do?
Starting point is 00:32:12 If I'm not doing anything, they can't get me. There's nothing to get it. And so, so February, I believe it was February 2nd, I had bought the. this old, it was like a 98 Yukon two-door square body truck. And this was going to be my project truck. I was going to make it hot pink and black. I was real excited about this truck. By buying this truck, I change out the wheels on it.
Starting point is 00:32:41 I put on these. I had some really pretty wheels with big tires, but the tires were really kind of shit. But they looked cool, but I was like, I'll get the tires change out later. It's fine. It looks cool with those REMs. We're going to start there. Well, then my daughter and I, we go out to play games at Dave & Busters, and we're on our way back, and it's snowing. And I figure out that this thing, the four-wheel drive doesn't work in this thing.
Starting point is 00:33:06 And I'm like, it might be a pin. I don't know. Maybe it's something simple. So I get back to the house. I get a hold of the guy that I had known for about a month and a half because I knew he worked on cars. And I'm like, hey, I need the four-wheel drive looked at in this truck. If you have some time, if you over by this way, if you can stop by. And he's like, yeah, okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Well, then he shows up with his ex-wife. And she's like, she's really, she's like the sweetest lady on earth. And I'm like, he's like, here, I were out already. So I just thought I'd see why I'd take a look. And I'm like, okay, okay. And I mean, I had met the ex-wife a couple times. She was, she had several children. She was nice, really nice lady.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Anyway, my daughter's in bed sleeping. And I'm like, okay. So he goes out, he works on the truck for a little bit. And she and I are sitting in there watching TV, just chit-chatting. So he comes back in and he's like, hey, I think I got it fixed. Do you want to go for a test drive really quick? And I'm like, yeah, absolutely. That's fine because she's like, oh, I can stay here.
Starting point is 00:34:12 You know, she's sleeping. It's so big deal. I'm just going to sit here and watch this show. We were watching some trash TV. I don't even remember what it was. She's like, I'm going to stay here and watch us and I'll stay with her. It's no problem. So we take off.
Starting point is 00:34:23 It's snowing and icing. and he's driving. We get down the street and I'm like, it's not working. So he went just a little bit further and I was like, all right, turn around. I'm good. I'm going back because I'm thinking,
Starting point is 00:34:34 I will walk. You know, that's fine. Now let me back up just a little bit. I mean, why? I mean, he's still going like he, why is he still going? The four-wheel drive was not working. So why are we still going? Right, right.
Starting point is 00:34:47 You said turn around. Why didn't he turn around? Exactly. I don't know. You know, it's getting weirder, but I'm just like, okay, whatever. So I had been in high-speed chases with this guy in the month prior. I had been with him on two occasions where he was like, hey, you know, hop in, let's go here. I went with him.
Starting point is 00:35:09 He's wanted. So we'd been into previous high-speed chases. Again, no fear. But I'm like, okay, cool, you know, we're out in the country. We're not, you know, nobody's out here. It's, you know, Let me, like midnight or something. Nobody's out here. No big deal. We're just going to go down the street, turn around, come back. No problem. So he kept going.
Starting point is 00:35:29 And then when I was like, okay, you're turning around or I'm walking. Like, what is he going to be? And so he pulls into this driveway. And when he does, the cops roll up on us. And they flip their lights on. And I'm like, are you fucking serious right now? Like, this is happening right now? Like, you never see cops out there at this time.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Like, it's middle of the night. we're going to turn it around and the tags are fine i just had gotten this truck so what i don't understand it so anyway i was like i looked at him he looks at me he's like i'm wanted i was like we don't have four-wheel drive we have bald-ass tires what are you going to do i just put my seatbelt on i was like oh my god so he goes to pull out in front of this cop the cop is sitting on the road with his lights on he pulls out of this driveway and pulls in front of the cop and he's heading up this hill And the cop isn't moving. He's just sitting there with his lights on.
Starting point is 00:36:23 And I'm like, what the fuck is going on right now? So we get up over the hill. There's another cop standing there with the stop sticks. And he goes to throw them out. But he doesn't get them out all the way. So this guy just makes a right on the next country road. He's heading down the road. You hear sirens.
Starting point is 00:36:43 You can see lights in the distance, but nobody's really chasing. I was like, what the fuck is going on? Like, this is the strange. Like, are you, do you have any idea what's going on? Like, did you do something earlier? Is there some reason that this is happening right now? No, no, no. I'm like, all right, cool.
Starting point is 00:37:02 To this day, I'll never understand it because none of it makes sense. But at one point, he turned out another road, decides he's going to make a turn. I'm like, this road doesn't go through. And I've got two rules with relationships and high-speed chases. Once you hit the accelerator, you never let off and you never turn around. You never go back the way you came. You don't do it. Well, he had to turn around and go back the way he came.
Starting point is 00:37:27 It sounded better to me just to get out and run. I was like, I was, you know, let's just leave it here and I'll deal with that later. I'll walk back. I'm fine with that. I'm country girl. I don't have any problems. So he turns around. He's heading back in the same direction and I'm like, here we go.
Starting point is 00:37:45 This is going to be bad. Well, there's a cop that's pulled over on the side of the road. we're going a good 25 miles an hour because it's slippery as shit. Cops over in the grass. He doesn't have his lights on. He's out in front of his car. He's aiming a gun. Like, I can see him in his headlights, but he doesn't have, like, the flashers on.
Starting point is 00:38:04 And he's shining a light into the car. So he can see where I'm at. He's shining it at me. I can see it firing. Like, you can see it, but you can't hear it because you can't hear it on the receiving end. And then as we go by him, there's, remember, there's nobody in. harm's way. There's nothing in front of us. There's nobody ahead of us. As we go by him, he shoots five times at the back of my head. And the guy driving is like, oh my God, he's shooting at us. And I said,
Starting point is 00:38:33 and I felt, I felt it I got hit. And I was like, yeah, I just got shot. And I went like that and blood poured everywhere. And he was like, oh my God, I got to get you to a hospital. I was like, you're not going to get me to a fucking hospital, dude. Let me out at the stop sign. I will get myself to the fucking hospital one way or another. You ain't getting nowhere. And, but two bullets were in my headrest, like in the metal part of the headrest. Two bullets were in front of me in the dash. And one was in the back of my head. It was in your head.
Starting point is 00:39:01 So did it go through the headrest? It went, no, it went through the window and then it went into my head. So I had like a high, high ponytail, like bun type thing. And it spun a nest in the center of it. And so it was in my head. It was poked into my skull. but I yeah no it was it got stopped in my hair and so yeah I mean why wouldn't it right so um he stopped is it in your like did it penetrate your your skull yeah okay well you okay okay so I can smell
Starting point is 00:39:39 my hair and flesh burning you know from the hospital I can smell everything burning and I'm like okay I'm I'm going to die you know this is going to suck so I get out of the truck and I was like just fucking go I slam the door and then I just I'm standing there and I'm thinking what the fuck am I going to do now you know and I asked myself I was like what do I in my you know you have that conscious thing that talks to you when you're about to go you know into shock and everything and I don't know I think it was God that was like what are you going to do with this now like are you going to fight for this? Are you, or are you just going to, what are you going to do? Now, like, what are you going to do with all this? I'm like, how you got to do is mention a fight to me and I'm
Starting point is 00:40:24 in, you know, like, that's cool. Like, let's fight for it. So here come, finally, here comes all the cops and they surround me. I'm, I got blood pouring from head to toe. It's filling at my boot. And I'm, I'm like, you motherfuckers. I was like, so is that your policy to shoot the passenger? like that's how you stop the truck is to shoot the I'm talking to him just like this blood porn everywhere and they're just looking at me like I'm a circus animal I was like well don't I was like say something what I was like you shot me I'm the passenger we're he's like well you guys shot at us I said oh no we didn't and I said what I would like for you to do is when you recover that truck that I'm sure you're about to go recover I would like for you to do test it for gun residue because you
Starting point is 00:41:08 won't find any inside that truck. So then what? Then what are you going to do when you find out that there was no shots fired out of that truck and you've shot me in the back of the head? Then what? And they're all just kind of, the one cop was like, can I pat you down? I'm like, absolutely. So I put my hands on the top of the cop car. I got blood everywhere. I'm finger painting in my own blood looking into the camera. I'm just, at this point, I'm losing my mind. So here comes the ambulance. Finally, I got one cop standing behind me with like a maxi pad trying to like put, I said, don't pocket touch me. Don't touch me. Like, but just don't, don't do it. Don't touch me. So the ambulance guy, I said, hey, I said, can you just pull this out and I'll just, I can walk back,
Starting point is 00:41:51 you know? He's like, no, I, I, you're going to get in here. I came all the way out here and you have a bullet in your head. So I'd like for you to get in here now. I'm like, whatever, dude. So I get in there. And he says to me, he's like, do you think your hair stopped the bullet? I was like, Definitely. That's definitely what happened. It's just like, yeah, maybe. You never know. So I get to the hospital and I was a raving lunatic. I mean, I was cussing everybody out. The cops would be standing outside my door and I'm like, yeah, I have a bullet in my head, but I can hear everything that you're saying. So shut the fuck up. But then the feds showed up. The DEA showed up and they started questioning me. So I knew I knew what time it was. I knew what was. I knew what was. what was getting ready to go down? I don't. I don't understand. Like, they're not, like, I don't understand that they're after the wanted guy who's
Starting point is 00:42:47 driving your truck that they pull over doesn't seem like they're after you or were they trying to get after. You know, like, I'm not understanding. And how, why did the feds show up for what reason? Well, the only thing that I can really make sense of the whole thing is the guy that sent the text messages with the full description of everything he was going to send to the EA. he did it. And it's the only thing that truly makes sense as to, I think that that night they were coming to my house. So I think that the way things worked out was better because they didn't
Starting point is 00:43:20 kick in my door when my daughter was there. And they didn't, you know, yeah, I got shot, but I would rather have taken a bullet in the back of my head than have my door kicked in with my daughter there. So honestly. So I'm sorry. So the federal, the feds have nothing to do with the, you think the cops were just after this guy? I don't know. I think. they were coming to my house because of that text message. The guy, I think that guy went. I thought they were all together. It was the feds and the cops were on their way there.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Maybe they were watching it, waiting for the feds or something. And they saw your truck leave and they just followed it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I think that that's how that went down. And so the cops, you know, the feds, I asked me some interesting questions. And, you know, thinking back, some of the stuff that they were asking was similar to that
Starting point is 00:44:08 text message it like all the details in the text message about well i know you're selling drugs and they pulled me over you know i'd gotten pulled over for speeding and everything and they'd searched me i don't know how many times i never found anything ever never got caught with anything at all um and then after that after they took me to the hospital they went to my house to search my house and the lady had taken my daughter because i was on the side of the road with my phone i called her i said listen i just got shot in the side in the back of the head you need to get my house and get my daughter and the lady had taken my daughter because i was on the side of the daughter here's my dad's phone number you need to get a hold of him and get her out of there and and get going you know get my get her to my dad's house if you don't mind you know and so she was in route to go
Starting point is 00:44:49 try to get my daughter to my dad and um the cops surrounded that car and pulled my daughter out with guns drawn and everything and pulled her out obviously didn't find anything um but they went on to my house and they searched my house that night they didn't find any guns Are any drugs? What they found was my 12 gauge, which was legal for me to have because I wasn't a felon. I had a 12 gauge for home protection. It was at my house. They took a picture of it at my house. I mean, first of all, I'm wondering, do they have a warrant to go in your house? Like, what gave them the right to go into your house? They said they were looking for that guy. I'm a passenger. I'm a passenger in a vehicle that you shot at. Yeah. That has nothing to do with my house. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Okay, sorry. Go ahead. You're absolutely right. And so, yeah, so they went and searched my house. They didn't find any drugs whatsoever. They found the gun. They took a picture. And that picture turned out to be part of my charge. Was that picture?
Starting point is 00:45:55 Yeah, hold on. It gets better. So when the feds showed up to the hospital, I ended up getting a hold of my attorney, who was a federal attorney too. and he knew about everything that happened, getting shot and all that stuff. And at one point, you know, he had called me. He was like, you need to probably come in and talk to me. Like, we need to get some stuff figured out.
Starting point is 00:46:21 In the meantime, the guy that was driving the vehicle, he called me from jail. And he was like, the feds are here and they know everything. And I need for you to not be a hero. And I was like, what do you mean? He's like, you can't save anybody and you can't save yourself. He's like, so there's no need to lie. It's time you've got to tell your whole truth and you've got to tell everything. He's like, because they're here and they already, they have everything.
Starting point is 00:46:49 They have statements from everybody. They have more statements than they possibly need. He's like, they're coming for you. And don't try to be a hero. And I'm like, what? You know, what does that mean? After you get shot in the head, there's not a lot of clarity. I mean, like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:47:06 one. Okay. There's not a lot of clarity and there's not a lot of, you know, the time frame from when I got shot to like when I got indicted was about five months. And there's a lot that's real foggy in between there. You said you wanted to jump back to going to the hospital and they remove the bullet. Yes. So the cops kept talking in the hallway about how it was really a piece of glass on my head and it wasn't a bullet. And I was like, listen to me. I can hear all of you guys shocking and I can smell my hair and my flesh burning from this bullet. It's not a piece of glass. And so I cussed everybody out and lost my mind. And then finally the doctor came in and looks at it and he's like, yeah, it's a bullet. And right around that time when they pulled it out is when I went into shock. Like I, the nurse kept coming and giving me morphine and stuff. And I said, listen, honey, you can hit me with every drop you have in this facility.
Starting point is 00:48:05 I'm not going out. They wanted me to shut up. They were like, please make her go away. I was like, I will not pass out because I'm going to sue these motherfuckers. I never did. And then my next memory is being in the shower with these nurses and they were trying to get all the blood off me. And then my next memory is I'm in a hospital bed and there's a cop sitting next to me and I'm he and kept to the bed. And I looked at her and said, you got any pink ones?
Starting point is 00:48:32 And that was the last of that. And then I woke back up and then I had pink ones on. And then my next memories, my dad was coming to get me. And I was on my way home with 19 staples in my head. And no charges, no nothing. They didn't even try to charge, you know, saying that we'd shot at them like they had been saying that night. Didn't do anything like that. Well, okay.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Get the guy. and he had been wanted and so he was in jail. He was in jail. I believe he had a parole violation and so they were holding him on that. So during the time he was in jail at some point the feds came to him and sat down with him.
Starting point is 00:49:19 The DEA came to him. And so then at that point is when he called me from jail and was like, hey, the feds are here. I need you to know that feds are here and they know everything. And he's like, Like, yeah, so you can't, so don't be a hero. And that really wasn't registering as to what does that mean?
Starting point is 00:49:37 What do you mean? Don't be a hero. He's like, everybody is told. And I need you to understand that in the federal system, like, everybody's going to tell. So, so don't be that one girl that goes at, you know, you're going to have to talk. And I'm like, I'm like, fuck you. I'm not doing this shit. So at some point after that, again, a little bit foggy from the gunshot and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:59 I'm still using drugs at this point, by the way. still using not as much you know i'm not selling i'm not doing anything like that but people would stop buying getting behind i'm like absolutely cool i'm i'm in wouldn't even thinking about stopping even after getting shot in the head and so um at some point my attorney got a hold of me and was like okay you're you're you're going to need to come in and so i went in and um and this might have been after i got in the indictment came out i'm really foggy on some things but He was like, you're going to have to talk to the DEA. And I'm like, yeah, fuck the cops.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I'm not doing this shit. He's like, well, I really thought he would say that. And so I would really like for you to sit down and read some things. And I'm like, okay. So I sat down with my discovery. And he's like, you can spend as much time as you want here. You can't take it with you. And you cannot take pictures of it.
Starting point is 00:50:54 And you can't ever have it. But you can come here and spend as much time with it as you need. I'll get you. you'll have your own office back there. You can just take your time. Like, okay. So I start reading this like with a fine tooth comb and, you know, the names are redacted, but you know who's who. Yeah. Because I'm going through it, I'm trying to find one that mirrors that text message because I'm like, I bet you anything, you know, this is where it all began. And I found one that was very, that was very similar. So I was like, oh, this has got to be that guy, you know. And so I, I, I,
Starting point is 00:51:30 I sat with it for a really long time. I figured out who almost everybody was. There was a couple that I couldn't figure out. There was some that clearly didn't know who I was. And there was several that had me confused with somebody totally different, which ended up being the guy, the text message guy's girlfriend that was living at the hotel. They said that I was her and that I'd been living in this hotel for a year. And I'm going through this stuff and I'm like, you understand there's like records and like cameras.
Starting point is 00:52:00 These people were living in a hotel because they blew up their place and their insurance was paying for them to live there. They'd had a mishap. They blew their other place up. So insurance was paying for them. You have the room number. You can check the records and find out it isn't me. But, you know, nobody believed me. They thought I was, I'm like, I have a house.
Starting point is 00:52:23 I don't go to hotels. I have my very own house. Why would I go there? That's weird. So after I went through my discovery, I decided I was like, you know what? There is no street code. There is literally nothing. There's all these people that are like, oh, you do the crime, you do the time.
Starting point is 00:52:43 They all walked in and told. And not just like, you know, just normal statements. Like, just shooting the shit. Detailed Sabrina stories. I mean, they were all having a ball. You could tell by the way they're right, oh, what'd she do next? And then happen. And I thought, you know what?
Starting point is 00:53:06 Fuck this. Literally, like, these people that are like, oh, yeah, you know, I'm a hardened criminal. The federal system is the biggest fucking joke on the planet. And so I talked. I was like, I got shit to say, too. I was like, I'm not going to sit here and take this shit. I'm not going to go do a whole bunch of time for all the people that just told on me. For what?
Starting point is 00:53:32 For a street code that's clearly not even real. But there was something, you know, there was something about that discovery that when I, the day I was indicted is my clean date. And that was over 10 years ago now. But there was something about reading that discovery that was a big moment of clarity for me because, you know, you have this thing in your brain as like the drug world. all this this way and you've got you got this street code and people people are gonna you know they're not going to tell on you because why would they tell on you you're cool to them like you're
Starting point is 00:54:08 cool you nobody's going to tell on you they all told they lined up to tell my my wife who also who also got indicted on a conspiracy was going to trial i think i told you this she was going to trial and like a week or so before her trial date, she got her discovery. And so like 10, in the federal system, I think it's 10 days beforehand, you're allowed, you get a list of the people that are going to, you know, go on this. And she was like, she said, I just couldn't believe how many people there were. Like, I knew all these people. And she's like, and they were all the people that she was thinking, well, these are my friends.
Starting point is 00:54:49 They're not going to tell them. And she's like, of course, the girls, a lot of the girls that were on her case were in the same dorm. And she's like, and they would get there, they're just, they would go to see their lawyer. You think it's their lawyer's not. And then they go see the lawyer the next day and the next day. And then they'd come back and they'd get their discovery and they'd go see their lawyer. And then one day they'd just move them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:10 And then you'd find out that she took a plea. And then the next one. And she's like, they're all leaving and I'm still there. And then like a week or so before trial, I get my discovery. And she's like, everybody's telling me. Like everybody's ready to all of them that were, that are in there with her. like fuck that shit i ain't telling nothing yeah these fuckers we're gonna beat them at trial she's like all over taking pleas and they're all cooperating she's like and then i'm the last one
Starting point is 00:55:35 sitting standing she and the main guy were the last two people standing and now you're just you're just fuck there's nothing you can do yeah yeah and and you know what the reality is it's like it wasn't it's not just one person that they get to tell it's so many that one person is a moot point oh it's overwhelming oh you don't want to tell oh oh Okay, because we got 15 more. That's going to tell. Right. I can say something.
Starting point is 00:56:01 I can jump on the bandwagon and I can get five years or I can be a gangster go to trial and get fucking 25 years. Yeah. No? For what? Bad idea. For what? These people that clearly weren't your people? Right.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Yeah. So I am. Yeah. And I struggled with that. At first, I was like, God, this is terrible. Like, how am I supposed to do this? Like, this is awful. But the reality.
Starting point is 00:56:26 is that they don't need you. You can either help yourself or fuck yourself. Like, it's, you got a choice and they're going to do it with or without you. They've already got it. They've already got that case all figured out. And so when the indictment came down, I was the kingpin. Yeah, Kingpin out of, I think nine was the first girl. And so when I got arraigned, you know, they did the whole cops all over my driveway, you know, big guns, lots of craziness. The cop that drove me down to federal court. What did they do? They banged on your door and to come out here?
Starting point is 00:57:09 No, I was on my way back from my parents' house. It was like 8 o'clock in the morning. So I was driving and I was pulling. I popped up over my hill and I could see my property and like there's cops everywhere. Everywhere. There's federal vehicles all of and down my drive. way, then the county cops surrounded me with like, you know, it was a big deal. And so I was like, can I pee? You know what I'm like, what's up? Can I? They're like, absolutely not. I'm like, right on.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Okay. But I was in my car with this Russian guy and he was really cool. And he was, he just like, so, you know, he's like, this is terrible and I'm sorry that you're going through this. He's like, but you seem like a nice person. Like, this could be your way. Like, this could be your defining moments. This could be your way to change. You know what I mean? Like that this is the cop? Yeah. This is what the DEA? Oh and by the way, it was his last day. He was retiring after that. Yeah. And I never, yeah, I always kind of wondered where he went because he was like really cool, like talk me through a lot of stuff, but didn't know how to get to federal court. I had to show him how to get there. It was fine. So when I was arraigned, I remember sitting there and the judge,
Starting point is 00:58:26 the prosecutor said, do you have any physical evidence? He said, no. He said, do you have any wire tap? And he's like, no. He said, do you have any hand to hand? And he said, no. And the judge said, what do you have? He's like, oh, we have a lot of statements. He's like, oh, okay. Because as we're going through it, I'm like, what? You know, we're going to do it the damn thing. We're cool. No, we're not cool. He's like, oh, okay, cool. So they take me back and they sent me to federal holding in Oceola, Missouri. But I remember getting on the van with all these people, and you're just shell-shocked. You just don't know what you're going to do. And all these guys were on the van, and they're like, what are your charges? And I'm like, drug trafficking with furtherance of a weapon,
Starting point is 00:59:11 maintaining a drug premise, conspiracy to some. At that point, I had $1.7 million in money laundering. and they're like, where are you out on the indictment? I was like, I'm number one. And they're like, you're the kingpin? And I was like, is that bad? They're like, yeah, that's really bad. Like, that's really, really bad. So, you know, I really didn't think I was going to get out on pretrial, but they did.
Starting point is 00:59:37 They kicked me out on pre-trial about three days later. And my pre-trial officer was awesome. And he was like, hey, you know, what? do you think it's time to get to rehab? And I was like, let's do it. You know, I was like, this is my defining moment. Like, I've got to do the damn thing. But, you know, I, after reading that discovery, I was ready to let that world go.
Starting point is 01:00:00 That was like the death to that, to that life is what I thought it was. It was just not anything like what I, it was, it was something that I had made up in my head. It wasn't real. And, you know, I got nine years. I ended up getting nine years after three years of price. pre-trial and um years you still got nine years you got nine years with a five k one yeah oh hold on let's back up so when i was in so so i was on pretrial for three years i went in i turned myself in at the time of plea and i had sit in federal holding for a year waiting for sentencing it was over a year
Starting point is 01:00:41 and so everybody was getting their um shit what am i thinking i'm just lost way traded I thought. Discovery? The. Please. Eat the paper. Help me out here. They're what?
Starting point is 01:00:54 Sentencing or their, I don't know what it's. PSR. Oh, pre-sentence report. Yes. Okay, so everybody was getting their PSIs. All these ladies were getting their PSIs. And I was like, calling my lawyer. I was like, I want my PSI.
Starting point is 01:01:06 He's like, no, you don't. I'm like, do you have it? He's like, no, but you don't want it. I was like, why? He's like, just do your time right now. Just you don't want it. And I'm like, So I finally got it.
Starting point is 01:01:21 And they gave it to me and then they locked the, you know, it was a regular lockdown time. And so I'm sitting there and I'm going through all these papers. It was pretty thick even though I had no criminal history. But, you know, they added a lot of statements and stuff in there. So I'm going through it and people are yelling through the wall. I'm like, where do I see what my time frame is? Like, where is that at? And they're like, it's a numbers range.
Starting point is 01:01:45 You know, just keep flipping through there. You're going to see numbers range. So I'm looking for numbers. Keep flipping back through this thing. And I'm like, I don't see numbers anywhere. So I started reading. It was life. There was a life sentence?
Starting point is 01:01:57 Yeah. That's what my range was. There was no months. There was no numbers. It was just life. And I'm like, what the fuck? Are you serious right now? Because they had hit me with 44 kilos of meth.
Starting point is 01:02:11 All the statements that people had given, you know, the statements that people gave were really, interesting. Like there was a guy that I know exactly who it is. He said that him and his son, he has an older son, him and his son had stopped by my house and had seen me cutting up with power tools. And my lawyer was like, well, that's crazy. I'm sure that didn't happen. I was like, actually that happened one time and I know exactly who this is. But he put, he put five kilos on me. And, you know, he wasn't part of the indictment, but he got indicted later. And guess what he got? Probation. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm sure. Oh, yeah. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and,
Starting point is 01:02:47 And then it'll be the first one to be like, oh, I bet you're a rat. I got you. But then, you know, you had the statements. There was a statement in there about I had some girl dropped off and I was hunting her in the woods. And I was like, it wasn't like that. Okay, so this girl had a, it was like right around Christmas time. And she had disappeared. Her family couldn't find her because she was getting high at this drug house.
Starting point is 01:03:17 I'm like, they kept going on the news. Oh, missing person. I'm like, she is not missing. Well, because they were saying she was a missing person, the cops started going around kicking in people's houses saying that they were looking for her. And I was like, fuck this. She's not missing.
Starting point is 01:03:32 So I knew somebody that knew her. I was like, go get her. Take her to the police. Take her to the police and drop her off. And then we'll call the news and let them know. She's been found. So they don't need to keep kicking in people's houses. So that's what we did.
Starting point is 01:03:45 I wasn't hunting her in the woods. I mean, right. Shut up. That's what it turned into in the statement. Yeah. Right. And then,
Starting point is 01:03:55 but you know, all it takes is one person to say I saw her with 10 kilos. That person can be high. That person doesn't even need to know you. And they're like, oh, perfect. We'll take that. We'll write that down.
Starting point is 01:04:10 And they, you know, when you take your plea, they ask you, are you under the influence of anything? And if you are, you can't take your plea. So why is that a different standard of care as for people that are making statements? You should probably find out if they are under the influence. But they don't care about that.
Starting point is 01:04:31 They'll take anything because it's a ghost dope. And that's the easiest way to indict somebody and you can't fight a ghost. There's nothing you can do. Nothing. So all these states, and these people are going to get on the stand, they're all going to say all of this. And I mean, I know I've just from looking at these things, like guys will, I've gone through people's discovery because, you know, I wrote a bunch of guys stories where I was locked up. And they'll show you the discovery. And some guys like, oh, I bought, you know, whatever, quarter of a, you know, quarter of a pound from them. And then the cops are like, well, how often do that? Oh, I did that, you know, every two weeks for and how long you've been dealing with him? Oh, about about two years. And then the next thing you know, that's, that's 12 pounds of, you know, math. or whatever it is. And, you know, because they, they just added up.
Starting point is 01:05:18 And then if you talk to the actual guy and the guy's like, that guy bought, you know, half a pound from me or a quarter of a pound from me, you know, three fucking times. I did it two years earlier. I was selling him, whatever. They were, you know, very minor amounts. And then we didn't even, I didn't sell him anything for eight months. And then he, you know, I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:05:38 So they're like, they took the largest quantity. Yep. Every two weeks, a multiplied at times, you know, two years. And it ended up being, whatever, it was six pounds. or 12, whatever, how many pounds it was. So, yeah, they're doing that to try and put as much on you so you can get as much time as possible. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Yeah. So at some point, because I was on pretrial release, so I was going to all the pre-sentencing stuff. And the next thing I know they're going to do is superseding indictment. And I'm like, okay, what are we doing here? Like, what's happening? Well, text message guy, he got caught with tons of guns and a whole. bunch of heroin. So guess what? He became the kingpin on the whole indictment. And I became number two. I've never been so happy to be number two in my entire life. I'm like, oh, I'm number two.
Starting point is 01:06:26 This is great. But at the pretrial hearing, the prosecutor said, well, we were not going to indict him, but he forced our hands. And I was like, oh, I bet. I bet you weren't going to indict him because he gave me to you. Like that's, you know, and it was all kind of unfolding. You know what I mean? It's like that thing where you're just like, that motherfucker, he got me. He got me because I, I didn't want to date him and I didn't want to do business with him. He got me. Just from that. Ask me about my dating life. You know what I mean? I'm like, please don't flirt with me. I don't want anything to do with anybody. I just, I don't want to reject. I just don't talk. I'm just going to hang out with my dog. But yeah, I mean, I will have a little bit of trauma from that. Like, it blows my mind. And I've processed
Starting point is 01:07:14 that, you know, I've thought about it so many times because I'm like, it took one guy to kick that whole thing off. It took one guy to end up getting me shot in the back of the head, which could have killed me. That could have been the end of me. Right. But then a decade later, I'm still dealing with this federal stuff. So you went, so you went to, you, you go to trial. You're supposed to, I'm sorry, trial, you go to sentencing, you're supposed to get a life sentence. Okay. Did you go into, did you go into court with a PSI that said life on it? No. So they redid it.
Starting point is 01:07:52 They had redone it. Because I went back to my lawyer and I was like, are you serious with this stuff? Like you know. I'm like, first of all, all of these are not me. There's somebody that lives in a hotel. And at one point when I had talked to the DEA, I told them. I said, this is not me. I've never, I don't go.
Starting point is 01:08:09 I have not lived at this hotel. And they told me I was a liar. And I was like, you know what? Fuck this shit. Like, I can't even tell you the truth, like that you don't want to hear it. You don't want to hear anything. You're too involved in this inflated story. So, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 01:08:23 But they did find out that a lot of that wasn't me. And most of that stuff didn't come out in tall sentencing. And then, yeah, they changed my PSI. There was some stuff that happened. I don't know if I should talk about any of that quite yet. But I ended up ultimately. like getting nine-year sentence. I got 108 months. And so I remember when they said it, I wasn't, I really, I was like, what did they say? You know, you're in a complete fog. I'm an orange
Starting point is 01:08:55 jumpsuit, shackles and chains. The whole courtroom's full of my family. And I'm like, what? What just happened? My ex-husband and his wife says they're on the other side and they're dying, they want to speak to the court. And the marshals were like, sit down. Nobody wants to hear from me. He's like, I need to say what I need to say. And they're like, you are irrelevant, dude. Like, shut up. Yeah. What were they going to say?
Starting point is 01:09:21 They wanted to just ask you? Oh, yeah. When I got, so I had custody, I was 50-50 custody up until I got, I went into, federal holding. And then when I went into federal holding, they were letting my parents bring my daughter to see me once a week. And then once I was sentenced, they took off Florida with her and cut ties with my family. So, so there was quite a few years I didn't get talked to her. We're best friends now.
Starting point is 01:09:48 She has no, no ties down there at all. It's just me and her. So, so it works out, you know, in the end. But yes, I did get a nine-year sentence. I went to Pekin, Illinois, and I'd done one year in federal holdings, so that counted towards my time. I was at Pekin, Illinois, and I did three years there. And then, but COVID had hit. And so I thought for sure, I was, I was, I was, I didn't qualify for the first step back. I didn't qualify for any of that stuff. So I thought for sure there's no way they're going to let me out. But they did.
Starting point is 01:10:19 My counselor came and got me and he was like, hey, guess what? You're going to quarantine because you're leaving. I was like, you're kidding me. He's like, after how long? How many years? Four years. I was at my 50% mark. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:31 I, well, they had put me in for it, but I just assumed that since I was not, I didn't qualify for anything else because of my drug trafficking with the furtherance of a weapon charge, you know, for that gun that they took a picture of. that was mine to have illegally. Oh, but there was a couple statements made by people that they saw me with a gun somewhere at my house, you know, whatever. So, yeah, because of that charge, it disqualified me from everything else. So I just never dreamed that it was going to happen for COVID.
Starting point is 01:10:57 So, yeah, so I got out at my four-year mark. Okay. Yeah. And how long ago was that? June 1st of 21, and I have been on home confinement ever since. Yeah. All right. I'm just about done.
Starting point is 01:11:13 I got 138 days left. Okay. And then you're on just probation. You have what? Three years probation. Five. Okay. That's what I had.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Yeah. So what do you do for a living? So I have a rep for this builder and they're awesome. I sell barn dominions and custom homes and post-frame buildings. So you don't know. Barn dominium. So you've got like condominium. downtown, right? It's like having a condo, but in the country, and you can do really cool things with it.
Starting point is 01:11:47 So say you want like a big shop or you want like a forest barn attached to your residence and everything's like right there. That's what we do. Or like say you want a hanger. You want to make a hanger because you got an airplane and you want living quarters with it. That's what we build. Okay. Well, I'm a wrap. So I basically work up my pricing program and then work with customers. I got a company car. I'm all over the place. during business hours. And then in the evenings, I'm at the gym for two hours and then I'm at home and that's my life. But I can't complain because I mean, I would still be in prison right now.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Well, I'd probably be at the halfway house. Still, out of all possible scenarios, you know, it's probably the best case scenario, right? Absolutely. And your daughter lives with you? Well, yes, yeah. She lives with me and she, She is in school full time and she's got a really good job also.
Starting point is 01:12:48 How old is she? He's 19. Oh, okay. Okay. She's 19 now. Well, I thought she would still like, like maybe, I don't know, 10 or 11 or something. No, she was 12 when I went in. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Yeah. She was 12. And so, but yeah, she came. When I got out early, I was like, hey, surprise. I want my daughter. And I ended up flying her back. he kicked her out at one point so I sent her a plane ticket she flew back and then he showed up and said that I had kidnapped her I totally took it I he set me up he set me up and I was like I fed
Starting point is 01:13:24 right into it and I was like absolutely I'll do anything from my daughter so um then you know the court got involved and I had to do supervised visits and stuff but he's in Florida so I'm doing it on video it was a mess it was horrible and then the day she turned 18 she caught the first slide out of there and she's never been back never turned around. That's what happens when you, you know what I mean? Like, what do you think was what's going to happen? But yeah, so she's been back and we've been cool ever since. That's great. Yeah, no. Another good outcome. Listen, I can't complain about anything. I really can't. Like, everything has worked out exactly
Starting point is 01:14:02 the way it, I couldn't expect it to work out any better. And honestly, if I would have kept going the way I was going without being indicted, I'd be dead. Right. I'm sure of it. I'm sure it'd be dead or it would be in a much worse place. So, you know, at the end of the day, I guess I should thank all those people that told on me because they saved my life. At the end of the day, they did. They saved my life and they changed my life for the better because on the other side,
Starting point is 01:14:28 you know, if you get your shit together and you got your head right, there's a lot of opportunity on the other side. You know, it's funny is like every time whenever I tell my story and I'm like, yeah, and so-and-so he got arrested and he cooperated and they put together a task force. And, you know, you're telling that to somebody and sometimes they'll give you like like that. Oh, man. Oh, he cooperated. Oh, he stitched on you.
Starting point is 01:14:47 I'm like, no, I did the right thing. He had a daughter. Yeah. He didn't owe me anything. He owed his daughter something. And it was the fastest way for him to get out of it. And who the fuck am I? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:14:57 Like, that's just the right thing. That was the right thing for him to do. So, and listen, and I got tons of those people. Yeah. Like, you did the right thing and I was doing the wrong thing. And you can't be, you can't be running around acting like a scumbag with scumbag. and then expect those people to be stand-up people. Right.
Starting point is 01:15:15 You know? So, but I was going to, I was going to, I was going to mention one more thing to you. Shoot. I can't remember. Anyway. Yeah. But that's just it. Is that, you know, you, you can expect that.
Starting point is 01:15:29 But, but it's, it's the best way to dismount from that world. I mean, you get extracted real easily from it. If you're, if you're in that, you know, once you, once you sit down with the discovery and you know how the real world. works. But you know, it's interesting because I'll be talking to people that think they may be getting indicted for something or other. And I'm like, yeah, you're hit. You're hit. And they don't want to hear it, you know? They don't want any part of hearing anything like that. So I do a lot of the stuff on TikTok now. And I talk to a lot of people that are being indicted or come out on the other side. So it's been really interesting to have that community, especially on a couple find out. You know, I'm kind of
Starting point is 01:16:11 board. Oh, yeah, you've got to be all in on TikTok now. What, what, what, what's your TikTok? Sabrina Morgan, S-A-B-R-E-N-A, Morgan, M-O-R-G-A-N. Listen, I'm so bad at this thing. I don't know even. I've thought. And then there it is.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Okay. Sabrina. Morgan. Oh, there's a whole bunch of them. I'm the one that's got like 60-some thousand. I mean, I got Sabrina Morgan, but I don't. 66,000? followers i got 65 000 i got i don't even know how to do that i don't even know how to do this well
Starting point is 01:16:53 you get so you get 66 000 followers yeah that's great here i'll forward this to you and then you could see me okay i'll we'll put the description in the i mean we'll put the link in the description yeah box and you feel like is there anything else you want to mention or you feel okay I don't know. I feel like that was the one thing that I was stressing on that I really wanted to get out. I mean, I have done a lot of work with dream.org and I'm working towards getting a halfway house opened in Kansas City and that's something that I'm really interested in pushing for. Because right now, halfway houses are a mess with the federal system because in 2017, they shut down, they quietly cut the funding for the Second Chance Act, which shut down 16 halfway houses across the country. And then in 2018, they signed. in the First Step Act. And when they did that, if it would have gone into effect when it was supposed to, we would have had a crisis a long time ago. But now we're filling it finally.
Starting point is 01:17:51 So, for instance, my halfway house is in Topeka, Kansas. So I have to drive 88 miles to do my check-in to do a UA and to do a check-in. I get in the car. I cross state lines. I get on the turnpike. And I drive 88 miles to go do this and then turn around and come back every single week. I'm salary. So I'm, you know, I'm not the one that.
Starting point is 01:18:13 has to worry about like taking off work and everything like that. But there's a lot of people in my position that's not nearly as, as lucky as I am where they have to take off work and they have to do all this stuff. And then if they want to take advantage of any services that the halfway house might provide, they can't, they have to take off work because the only services they provide is out in that area. They won't, they won't, you know, outsource it and they won't do like video therapy or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:18:39 And so we got to get more halfway house. houses. The halfway house in Kansas City shut down in 2017. And there's only two federal halfway houses in Missouri. One's in Springfield. One's in St. Louis. And so you have this giant area that's not, has nobody, like if you're on home confinement, they can deny you home confinement. And the two halfway houses that are closer, close enough are Topeka and Leavenworth and they're full. So there's people that are trying to come out of prison right now that are eligible to come out because of first step credits, and they can't come out because there's not a halfway house. And so the problem is not people wanting to open up halfway house.
Starting point is 01:19:19 If there's a lot of people pushing to open them, it's the BOP that are dragging their feet to put their request for proposals out so that people can give them a proposal for a halfway house contract. So once, you know, they drug their feet on the first step back, giving everybody credits, and now they're dragging their feet on the other end of this. But I think there's a lot of people not making that correlation between the fact that it's the BOP. You have to wait for them to put out a request for a proposal in order for anybody to try to propose anything for a halfway house. And so that's kind of my passion right now is to get involved and try to get some of these
Starting point is 01:19:58 halfway houses going. I don't want to run one. Let me be clear. I don't want to be part of that. But I would like to get involved with legislation. And I'm involved with Dream.com. org so when I'm done with home confinement, I'll do like lobby days and stuff with them. But, um, but I think that's kind of, you know, that's one of my things is that I, you got to get that out there. So. Okay. I think I did okay.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Cause I don't even know what the fuck I just talked about. No, you did, you did, you did great. I'm saying profusely. Just when. Why? Because you're nervous. Yes. Do I, I, no, you did great.
Starting point is 01:20:34 You did, you seemed very comfortable. Okay. It's because I'm a good liar. Yeah. Well, listen. I mean, I'm going to, so you're good. So you're good. I'm going to like wrap it up and I'll mention your TikTok.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Do you want me to mention the TikTok? Yeah. Okay, cool. Hold on one. Oh, I also write blogs on Medium. Oh, a medium. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Medium. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What? Medium magazine. It's like an online magazine. Is that it?
Starting point is 01:21:05 No. Medium. So when I was in prison, my brother came to me and he was like, you have a really interesting story. You should start writing. And I was like, he's like, you should write blogs. And I was like, what's a blog? Yeah, I did know. So he started sending me, he started sending me articles on, you know, blogs and different things.
Starting point is 01:21:27 And he's like, so just pick a topic and then you're going to write on it and you can email it to me. And then I'll publish it. I'll just do a quick edit and I'll publish it. And I'm like, okay, cool. So I picked out my topic and I started writing and I emailed it to him. Well, the prison computers, you know, it's 13,000 characters is all you get. And you're fighting people, you know, you're fighting the line and you're battling the 30 minutes that you have to write. And so it's, it was a mess.
Starting point is 01:21:55 But I would write all week long. And then on Fridays, I would lay in the plane. You know, I'd sit there and get it all cleaned up. And then Saturday morning at 6 a.m. I'd start typing it up. And so I started sending him all these blogs and he started publishing him. So by the time I got out, I basically had control of my own narrative because I was able to write my story and write. I'll send you one right now.
Starting point is 01:22:19 I was able to write my side of the story on a lot of things. And I haven't got into a lot of stuff because I do want to write a book. But yeah, so I write. I just sent you the link. Okay. and it's medium.com. Medium.com. Yeah.
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