Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - INMATE Sets Up DIRTY COPS (POLICE EXTORTION)

Episode Date: April 13, 2024

INMATE Sets Up DIRTY COPS (POLICE EXTORTION)

I'm at work one day where I'm doing a weekly business report and all of a sudden the two officers show up at work. Put me in the van. I pluck the 90 out of my wallet and they're like, go back in there and get us some more fucking money and you're going to jail right now. I'm walking out at 545 and as I'm like probably almost a block away, a white van comes up on me. And it's these two motherfuckers in a state van in uniform at 545 in the morning when they should not even be on shift yet. And they're like, get in the van. And I'm like, dude, the guy, Officer Brown was sitting behind me. If he tries anything funny, wrap that seatbelt around his neck and strangle his

n'b. Born in West Palm, pretty, like, working class. Like, all my buddies' dads were trades guys, and my mom was a nurse. The first few years, my life was, like, fairly normal-ish. You know, like, my dad's a... Probably hear more about this, like, throughout the podcast, but, like, my dad's nut. and so biker

like big gangster biker dude from up north with wild friends like I just my buddy Kevin and I were just talking about like all these things growing up that like for me like it was just normal or at I thought it was normal

you know I didn't realize that other kids didn't grow up with guns all over their house you know other kids didn't their biker family and stuff didn't like Like, pretty much lock all the kids in a room to watch, like, videos while their parents were doing blow and whatever else, like, party. And most normal kids didn't open a fridge and there's not a 380 pistol in the fridge. That's just like the fridge gun, the couch gun.

The, like, I'm not even joking. I wish I was joking, but I'm not. Right. Like, that's just how I grew up. And I was taught from such an early age that, like, you don't put the firearms. Like, every gun in this house is locked and loaded. That's not a toy. Like you don't with it

But there's guns all over my house Like literally in the couch In the fridge In the cupboard In a cereal box Like all over my house Is this paranoia Or is this just because of like drug activity

Or there's so many So many All the above buddy All the above Part paranoia part just doing dirt And stuff My father I know there was like some scam

With these motorcycles They were like buying this Buy a motorcycle from a place So this happened when I was five or so it was right before my parents got divorced they bought this these motorcycles from like an independent dealership and somehow they figured out that they were like kind of fucking them on interest somehow because it was like a buy here pay here and so they don't loan shark us we loan shark you type of thing right so they first they step to the guy we're like listen like we're not letting this

fly and then the guy was a wannabe gangster too and he's like oh you and they're like okay and so somehow basically devised this scheme where like there was like three or four other guys my dad and uncle Steve I called the guy my uncle Steve and a couple other guys like basically they all stole each other's motorcycles you know right and somehow like pinned it on the the dealership like that he came and took their shit and it became this whole big thing um like like so my dad took my uncle Steve's motorcycle uncle Steve took my dad's motorcycle and then there are other buddy disco joey took um disco joey i swear to god is yeah disco joey they had the greatest nicknames they really did like there was my dad they called bear there was disco joey um two fingers

charlie like i swear it just like the funniest nicknames ever it was really an art for him kind of like yeah like disco joey who comes up with that but um at any rate like um they they end up stealing each other's motorcycles and somehow it got it got pinned on this guy or aragonie i think his name was if i remember correctly somehow another contract got put on my dad's head so like when i was like five years old um we're living at this house in quarrel gardens and stewart um and i'm like i had a doberman i had just gotten for my fifth birthday his name was spike and he's just going nuts late night one night it was like 10 11 o'clock at night dog's just going nuts and i'd come out of my room into like the living room to kind of see what Spike was going nuts about

and my dad was there and you know like I said there's guns everywhere and it's late so my dad's already paranoid he knows there's a price of hit out on him so he's like go back in your room and of course being a little kid I didn't go back in my fucking room and um he's walking outside like with his hand on his hip because he's got a gun on him and so um he opens the door and I was standing not 20 feet away as soon as he opens the door a guy puts like a little uh I think was a 25 revolver in his face and pulls the trigger and it just goes click which for for a revolver to not fire is like nuts that it didn't fire but it just goes click and my dad like startled like before the

guy could even pull a trigger again my dad was startled but in that split second before he could even get his gun all the way out he just kind of swept the guy's hand down and the guy got off you know bucked off another shot and that hit my dad in the ankle and when that hit my dad in the ankle my dad pulled had already had his gun out by then the dude already turned tail and ran and my dad bucked off a couple shots at him and I know he at least winged him like in the shoulder or something the dude hauled ass that's all at least happen right fucking front of me um and so uh cops and but and then my dad like even though he's shot in the ankle he was a tough mother he like came back in the house locked up the house and then like now he's like assembling his arsenal and like

i'll just never forget the cops coming like shortly thereafter and them just being like what the because we had this big wooden kitchen table and he just had like all sorts of shit laid out nowadays it's a lot of guys in Florida especially like they've got AK-47s and ARs and stuff but like

in the early early 90s it wasn't as popular right you know so he's got like the AK and AR you know stuff that you have to have special licenses to have and the cops are like what the like what the like you want like medical attention and he's like it's through and then it's like bleeding but he's like setting up all his guns and stuff. I just, it's just one of those things that, like, pivotal moment. Him and my

Uncle Steve sent myself, my mother and my sister up to Connecticut to get the fuck out of Dodge for a while. That was kind of like my baptism into the kind of like shit that my dad got into, and I was too young to understand a lot of it, but that was kind of like, I understood that. Right. You know, I'd been watching, even though it was only five, I'd been watching enough, like, John Claude Van Dam and Stephen Seagall movies to, like, know that some shit was going down. And so that was like the beginning, you know, so without getting too bogged down in the details, like I grew up like that. My parents got divorced, like, not all that long after. My mother remarried, like, in fairly short order.

Another good story, though, is as they were getting divorced, my dad was getting a lot of shit out of the house. So my mom was a career nurse. She at that point had already been a nurse for, like, 25 years. He was getting all the shit out of the house, pretty much, and he had very little left. My mom was, like, making my sister and I dinner, and I just remember she was just, like, on vinyl, listening to the music. My mom was drinking tequila while she was making us dinner, and she was pissed, and her and my dad were, like, high school sweetheart. They were together forever. So her fucking life's falling apart, and got these two young kids and not a happy camper, put it that way.

So my dad was coming that night to get a few things of his. So he shows up there. My dad just like, you know, my mom is special. So he brought a domestic standby cop with him just in case. That tells you anything about my mom. That the biker is concerned. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So my mom's just like this little 4-11 Irish woman, but she's fucking nuts.

He just wanted to like dip things in the bud, whatever, whatever. So he shows up, knocks on the door and he's like, hey, you know, Charleney, I'm here to get my whatever. And she gives him, like, a box of shit or whatever. And he's like, hey, Charlie, like, I need the fridge gun. Like, literally the fridge gun. He's like, I need the fridge gun, too. And she's like, oh, motherfucker.

She's like, wait outside. Like I said, she'd been drinking. My sister and I were in there eating. But, like, I realized my dad was there. So when she went and grabbed the fridge gun, it was like this little 380 used to keep in the fridge. She went to, like, grab the 380 out of the fridge and, like, starts walking over to the And I follow her because I want to see my dad. You know, I'm like six.

And my dad's still my hero. You know, he's f*** up. Like, I don't know at that time. So I'm, like, kind of following behind my mom. And, like, as soon as we get out into my driveway, my dad's, like, in the middle of the driveway. And my mom's like, you want your fridge gun, motherfucker? Here you go. And throws it at him.

And my dad, like, does, whoa, like catches it right here, like, point it up at him. Well, there was an empty lot next to our house. And the cop for whatever bright. idea I read instead of parking right in front of her house so she knew he was there he parked down by the empty lot and walked up through the empty lot she never saw him so when she threw that gun out and my dad catches it like I said everything was always locked and loaded um he comes up behind my mom and just barry hugs her so my mom thinks it's just like one of my dad's buddies or some shit right so my dad had taught her like a little bit of self-defense stuff and um she like stomps on his in step

elbows him, turns around, knees him in the nuts, and punches him. And I'll never forget her, like, when she punched him, as soon as she punched him, she went, oh, fuck.

She realized it was a cop. Right. And he dropped. Mind your little 4'11 woman, she dropped him. And she's like, oh, like they knew that the officer was down. And like tons of cops now,

like this is really only like nine months after my dad got shot there, mind you. All these cops, my mom gets a battery on Leo. Immediately loses her license. I was going to say she's a nurse. Yeah. Immediately it loses her nursing license.

Like, that really turned her, like, our lives upside down because she made good money. You know, she was an ORR room nurse, too, like, really good at her job. So she went from, like, having this good career, you know, known at all the hospitals, locally and stuff. And all the doctors wanted her for their surgeons, rather, for their operations to, like, she went to cleaning houses. Wow. You know. So, like, overnight. And so, like, she didn't even get a chance to work for, like, another month or two while she's fighting the case.

Like she's done. As soon as the arrest happened, she was done. So, and she was in jail for a few days or whatever, got her out. And she ended up getting, she's never been in trouble a day in her life either. I think she ended up getting like 10 years probation, 10 years felony probation for it. The funny parallel about this story is that cop who got beat up by this 4-11 woman. Fast forward to when we were in middle school. Guess who's my school resource officer?

The cocked my mom beat the shit out of. I'm sure it had nothing to do with that. Yeah. And, oh, yeah, no, they busted his ass to school resource. Like, yeah, you're going to deal with kids. Yeah, yeah. You got beat up by a 4-11 woman. Like, she need him the nuts so hard.

One of his nuts went into his stomach. Like, that's how hard she need him. Like, as soon as he figured out, like, my mom was picking me up one day, and he figured out that she was my mom, nonstop harassment after that, for me. Oh, okay. You know what I mean? And I was already, like,

I was already up by the time I was in middle school, you know? I had already been smoking weed and stuff. So, like, I got arrested the first time in seventh grade for possession of, like, not even a bull pack of reefer as, like, the dumbest thing ever. But I got arrested for that. I was on drug court, but when drug court first started, and I just remember my dad being like, this is such a money grab. Like, this is ridiculous.

And so, like, after the incident happened, my mom, I stayed living with my mom. and my stepfather Alan and then like his time went on years went on i kind of go back and forth between my mom my dad and my mom as you can imagine going from being a career nurse to cleaning houses like we were poor you know um like poor poor and so and then you know i go back and forth between my mom my dad and middle school when i did finally get arrested that first time i was living with my dad and just so happens at the time started like doing pills for the first time like that young you know um and my dad was always like that was also one of his things he was always like selling pills like always so um and he had like a lot of legitimate reasons to get pills

so my dad was always like selling pills and shit i just grew up around and did and i had one of those one like i'm like man i got a raging migraine pops like here take this and it's like a 10 325 percassette you know what my god yeah you slept for two days yeah no i got high as fucking was like this is the best thing ever, you know. I thought percocets were like oxies, no. They, it's the same drug. It's oxycodone, but. It didn't make you sleepy?

No, I just got high as a kite, you know, and, um. I thought oxies made you. Don't do oxies. They can, depends on you. I don't, I don't know enough about it. It depends. Like, I would just say, like, I'm my father's son. So, like, I was, like, somehow born with his tolerance.

Some people would take their first, you know, 10 milligram percise and just get wrecked or, and, like, go to sleep. I just fought it and stayed awake and I just got wrecked and was like this is the best thing ever I feel like I have like a warm loaf of bread baking in my chest right here like that fucking euphoria of like taking opiates

whenever somebody asked me what it's like what it's like that's what I tell them I'm like just imagine you have like a loaf of homemade bread baking in your chest and like everything feels great the world is great everything is great I'm like that's the way it feels or imagine like John Travolta and Pulp Fiction like driving in the convertible

like you know the scene the famous scene like either one of those like that's what when when doing opiates is good when you're not up and strong out like that's what it feels like so anyway around that time i like done pills for the first time and um because of my age like that was around the time that like oxycontinent stuff was first coming out and whatnot too now he had given me a percassette like at some point in time for like a headache and i knew i liked immediately you know i was already smoking weed too but like i knew i like that shit immediately and um he was also selling oxy at the time that was oxy 80s oxy 160s when those were still a thing before they got banned and all that stuff um and so started dabbling with

like doing oxy and whatnot got arrested for the pot started going through probation for the pot um and then while i was on probation for the pot i ended up getting in a fight with my sister's boyfriend and some of his friends and um getting arrested for that like a bad or some shit so then that violated my drug court and I don't remember what they did to me for that I think it just like extended my drug court or something and then fast forward a little bit farther like now I'm in like I'm only in like eighth grade too which is like after this right that was seventh grade I'm an eighth grade now and um my dad would get wrecked and like on the weekends I would like just steal some of his pills you know then I go over my buddy's houses

and we fucking get high. So at one point, it was like a weekend. I was at my dad's house. At that point, I was in the back living with my mom. And I stole a bunch of pills from my dad, like methadones, oxies, roxies, um, somas, valliums, whatever. Just a freaking smorgas board of pills.

And I brought him over my buddy Kevin's house. And, um, brought him over his house. And, uh, you know, we're all just getting wrecked on the weekend or whatever. And then like, I think I came home that, from his house and I was up like I kind of bounced into the entertainment center at my house and when that happened

the very next morning I was like waking up to go to school but I was not going to go to school I was going to skip school I don't remember I had the pill stashed but I must have fallen asleep with them either in my pocket or like stashed like on my groin or something and when I woke up in the morning vaguely remember my mom like my mom finding them somehow

and being like all crying like what are these I'm just like, oh, but I don't really remember because I was half asleep. I end up, like, going to school, but I skipped school. I ended up hanging out with everybody, Kevin, and his older brother, and a squirrel little Vanessa and a couple other people, and we skip school, and we just take pills, we don't f*** up all day, and just, like, laid around all f*** up. I come home, like, come home from school later in the day. My sister's there, for some reason.

My sister's, like, four and a half years older than me. Come in, act like, everything's normal. I, like, get a cookie, and, like, something. the drink and and my sister just like out of nowhere I was like I love you and like starts crying

and then I just knew me I'm like what the fuck did you guys do I'm like what did you do like it also the memory of my mom finding my shit kind of right

dawned to me I'm like what did you guys do and my mom like gave me this bullshit story that like well I didn't know what those pills were so I took them to

the pharmacy to get identified and then like they call the cops and she was like so like I didn't I'm sorry like didn't blah blah and I'm like bullshit I'm just like what the so what did you do

well I told them they're yours and like I'm like oh god I'm like you fiddly I'm like I didn't talk to my mom like that even though she's a psycho like it's always like nice to my mom but like when she did that I'm like first of all I don't buy that story at all right like you're been a nurse for 25 years you know you lost your license a while back like you know how to figure out what the fuck those were you don't you don't have to go to the pharmacy you know you didn't have to go the pharmacy number one number two i don't i don't buy that but like she's such a the word narcissists gets thrown around so much these days i hate using that word because every chick out there nowadays is like my ex was a narcissist and da da da like and you're like no no that's not that doesn't mean

what you think that means he was just an asshole he was just an asshole he's a garden variety asshole but my mom is the textbook female narcissist like in every sense of the word and a manic depressive like so super high mania and then super low lows so but like also loves to be the center of attention the savior or whatever so like when she said oh i had to get them identified or whatever like that's all bullshit she just wanted to be like i'm saving my son's life like look look at me and how like it's not that serious bitch so anyway like no sooner did this little conversation happen there's cops they come to arrest me so I get felony drug charge over this show.

How are you? I was 13 at this time. Wow. So, so far I'm 13. I've got a possession of under 20 that I was on drug court for. I got a battery from my sister's boyfriend, drug court still for. And then now I've got a possession of a controlled substance without a prescription, third degree felony. So I go, I do 21 days in the juvenile detention center.

How was that? Sucked. It's gladiator school, man. Right. I was just say, you're a big guy, though. Yeah, I was already pretty big by that time, but I was not, I hadn't, like, hit my gross pretty, because I was still pretty young, you know, so I was like. Well, you're also a kid, and, you know, 17-year-old kid is different than a 13-year-old kid.

Oh, yeah. So, like, I'm young, too, to be in there. So, like, and I was, like, I was big, but not tall yet. Like, I was, like, um, it was probably like 200 pounds, but probably only, like, five something like five and a half feet maybe maybe less um and so i went in there and and it sucked you know i fought every day especially being a white boy i fought every goddamn day because it's a few counties up there it was like you have martin county like the whole 19th judicial circuit goes to the same juvenile justice center so you have like martin county st lucy county

indian river county and ok chobie county all converge so it's all very clicky and all that you know And Martin County is small. So, like, there was, like, me and a couple black dudes that I was, I do them from school. It's like me, a kid named Sebastian Hill and Robert Norwood. Um, we all knew each other from school. So, like, if it was like us versus them, we could fight together against them. Right. And sometimes it would be like a head up thing.

That didn't do nothing but make me worse, you know, because I already had a bad fucking temper. I could already fight. So, you know, in some ways, like, some ways I kind of liked the fighting and stuff. But I did 21 days there. I got out. And I knew I was going to be, get sent to a. program. Oh, you ever had anybody on that talked about like the juvenile justice programs in the state of Florida back in the day? Um, I mean, John Boziac, I wrote a book about him and him going in and

out of the programs. The programs. Yeah. Also, I was going to say I was, you ever heard of the case, uh, cash for kids? Yeah, I was the judge with the crooked judge. Yeah, I was in, I was, uh, in prison with him. Really? Yeah. The, Judge? Yeah. There were two judges. There was two, right? There were two.

He got like 25 years. Deserved it. Yeah. And he was super arrogant, too. Every time I talked to him, it was funny as one time I went to him to ask him because some of the things Boziac had said seemed, like it just seemed like, there's no way it works like that. And Bozak had said, yeah, he had gone to, he'd been sentenced to, like this, it's, it's

in Florida. sent us to this program and he explained the program and then he basically he and another kid plotted how to get out of the facility and escape and they escaped. Then he got picked up again

and they put him in another one. He escaped from there. And then they caught him again and they just stuck him in a and basically a homeless center for teens and I said that doesn't make sense and he goes, what do you mean? I said you don't get to escape prison twice

and then they say you know what you don't even have to go anymore. Just sleep here. during the day and I said that doesn't make sense because that's what they did so I went and I asked the judge and I approached him we were walking the track and I went to say hey I have a question for you and I said you were a juvenile like you know judge he's like he got real stiff yes why and I was like no no I say I mean I understand you you were here on a case thing I said but I'm writing a book and I explained it to him I never forget when I said the second time I go the second time he told me

They just told him, look, here's a homeless facility you can stay at for kids. Right. And that was it. I said, and they just, like, and I explain, you don't just escape twice and they give up on you. And he goes, well, how many resources do you want the state of Florida to put into this kid? He goes, he's a bad kid where you try and keep a roof over his head, wait until he's 18. You can start sticking him in federal prison or you can start sticking him in state prisons. He's, but until then, he just can't keep throwing money at this kid.

And I thought, he sounded so brutal. and we're talking about like a 14-year-old kid. Like you give up on a 14-year-old kid? Yep. It's nuts, man. I just... So whatever you're going to say, trust you're going to talk to actually at the... What I started to get at was like the DJJ programs that almost all of my boys went to, all the homies I grew up with, we all went to them.

Every single one of us, we all went. Some were longer than others, but we all went to at least one. I went to two, technically three, sort of. So after I got that felony charge, I did my 21 days, I got out. I want to say, before I went to my actual program, program, I was able to, like, get a rehab, and I went to this rehab center called Data in Fort Pierce. 2001, matter of fact, 9-11 happened while I was there. That's, like, one of the things that sticks out in my memory.

So I'm there, 9-11 happens. and um place sucked it's just sucked that the place sucked it was co-ed so there was some hotties that were like across the hall

that was cool and they were always throwing us their tits and stuff so that that was cool um but other than that place sucked especially again I'm like 13 or whatever

in that place yeah so um you know and everybody else is like 17 like last last resort before your adult type of thing so I forget what I

some I did some scheme to get out of their half-ass like cut my wrist so i didn't cut them i like barely scraped right and um but they have to take it super serious yeah like they had like bag racked me and like they sent me to like a columbia health pavilion down in um west palm and i just like sit there for like three days get out and then i was like well if you sent me back there i'm gonna kill myself and lo behold it worked right because part of what they kept trying to do was like reinstate my drug court reinstate my drug court because then like because i'm like because my parents were having to like help me pay for my drug court and it was expensive dude because it

was like every time i'd get in more trouble was like well you need to have a one-on-one counseling section once a week and then you got to do a drug test for 75 dollars and you gotta do this you're gonna do that you're gonna do this so when i was like oh you're sitting back there and kill myself or whatever um they're like fine we're just gonna turn all your probation to like regular probation no more drug court no more like record right clean i'm like my my record pretty much gets wipe clean when i'm 18 anyway but i violated for some reason i don't remember why And then once I violated for that, they sent me back for 21 more days in the juvenile detention center. And when I got out from the violation, they're like, listen, you're waiting on a bed at a level six juvenile justice commitment program.

It's going to be six to nine months or six months to a year. Don't know where you're going to go in the state of Florida. You're going somewhere, though. I'm like, okay. And I waited like, I was technically on like home detention. So I didn't have an ankle monitor, but I was like pretty much, pretty much like community control probation. Right. So I waited like a month.

and some change, and I get sent to this place in Orlando called ATC. There was two in Orlando, one called ATC, one called ARC. So ATC was Adolescent Therapeutic Center, which was like a, they like coined it like a dual diagnosis, blah, blah, government funded bullshit. They've got like counselors, you got to do like groups every day and blah, blah, blah. and um but in reality like yeah you had like counselors and you had groups and stuff but like in reality you also had like a lot of big ass grown men working in that mother who f***ed us up like if we got out of line if we got into fights or whatever I mean big dudes I saw kids get their arms broken

teeth through their lips and stuff like half the guys that worked there for some reason were like these I don't know why but like big like black dudes that played like European Mainly basketball or semi-pro football or whatever there was one guy mr. E.J was like six ten I watched him like sky high a number of 13 14 15 16 year old kids like just Like it just fuck us up breaking their arms and stuff and they get away with it because we're all words of the state Right time and um the one time I saw them do anything was there was this Jewish kid. I don't remember his name I just remember he uh remember he was Jewish because he had like he wore the Yamaka. They f*** that kid up and they fucked up and they fucked that kid up.

All right. He got an emergency release. Like five days later, he was gone. He was out. I'm pretty sure his dad was a lawyer and shit. Like, you know, he'd gotten in enough trouble to get into a program, but like, they put his teeth through his lip and broke his wrist. And five days later, he was out, emergency release. Bye-bye. And he told him, like, as soon as they did that, he, like, laughed at him. And he's like, you f*** up. He's like, I'll be out of here in a couple days. Watch. And his dad, like, got a injunction and this and that and the other. And then pulled him. right out of there um i don't know how exactly he pulled that off but he did right next to sea world in orlando which was like the great irony like you'd go take out the trash and sea world's right there and all the little like you'd be in the chow hall and all the happy families we go and see world and you're like a ward of the state over here like crazy so i was there and so like you have

like this how's fucking stupid that place was like you have like levels you have to go through to like graduate and stuff and it's like orientation commitment change maintenance transition so orientation is like your first two weeks commitment is your commitment to change

right change is actually doing the change well maintenance is maintaining the change and then transitions getting out but the thing is is like all of these programs in the state of Florida they're not time dependent it's behavior dependent yeah there's dudes

that program for 20 months. All right. That's a juvenile, dude. Like, that's not okay. You don't lock up a young teenager for doing whatever, and most likely he's got all sort. He's not committing to the program.

Of course not. He's just getting his program restarted over all the time. That was how they would get you. Like, oh, you got into a fight? Start it over. It's a six-month process, minimum. If you're perfect the whole time.

So, like, his name was Antonio Allen. I'll never forget his name. And he just, like, would start to program over and over and over again finally like at the time i was there he was approaching being there 20 months and they're just like get the fuck out of here kid um and he he got out so i was there like a little while and so if you get in trouble you'd get put on this thing called contract which is like a behavior contract stupid bullshit i got put on contract for like mumbling something under my breath about this one asshole like guard person i've been there about three months i was like just getting to the

change phase this dude that I was like I thought I was friends with at least ended up like punching me in my shit and um I thought he was joking man just touch me just touch me like I'll fuck you up and I like I thought he was joking because he would joke like that I literally like touched him like that and then he like freaking two pieces me bang bang and I'm like what the fuck like he actually like punched me and there was like all these guards around it's kind of a check-in move there's all these guards around so like I'm like all right motherfucker but he had like bonny ass hands and he, like, he actually, he actually broke my, like, my orbital because he hit me, like, right on the edge of my eye.

And so, and I didn't hit him back, because there was, like, it was a check-in move. I'm like, all, my, mother-fitter. And, um, the next day happens in my eyes, like, whew-and. And, like, they're asking me, like, oh, who did that to you? I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I fell. I didn't realize that, that, that hallway did have cameras, and they knew it was this, uh, other kid, uh, Cornelius Anderson. And, uh, they're like, damn, Nini did that to you?

And I'm like, I'm not saying, you know? So they, like, put him in trouble. at first and then I went to you used to have to go to a staffing meeting once a month I didn't get any trouble because I didn't get him back and when I was in the freaking staffing meeting like the one like program manager this guy Mr. Washington was a real piece of shit thought he was a tough guy like he came in there and was like hold on because I was going to be going to that change phase like I said he was like hold on hold on he needs to be put on behavior contract and started over and they're like why he like literally didn't

hit the kid back and they're like cause he like rolls the video footage and shows, like, the part where I, like, touched his hand. Right. He's like, see, see you right there? And I'm like, I thought he was fucking kidding around. Like, we were friends. And he's like, yeah, but you put your hands on him. And I'm like, I'm like, are you fucking kidding me right now?

Like, are you, like, really? And, like, even some of the other people are like, ah, that's a stretch. It became this thing that, like, I'm, like, getting favorited. So they literally put me on contract and started my program over. So I'm like, so you're starting me over? You started me over? I'm like, okay. and I immediately walked out of there

and went and fuck that kid up. It was my first mission. I'm like, you're going to start my program over? Like, I'm going to go attack that mother-up immediately. And I did. And I blindsided him because when he hit me, I was not expecting it at all. He was like sitting there writing a letter to somebody

and I just ran upon him and beat the shit out of him. And then I got fucked up by the, we both got f***ed up by the guards. They literally slammed me so hard in the bathroom. They somehow slammed my big ass in between the toilet and the wall. I don't know how the fuck I ended up there But I was in between the toilet and the wall

Like a pretzel And they f***ed me up But I was like hey At least if my program is restarting It's for a reason So then I restarted and then did my program Got out like six months later or whatever So I ended up doing nine, ten months

As a you know A 14, 15 year old I was already 15 when the time I got out Um All it did was honestly make me worse You know all it was like Make me better at fighting There was an ex-boxer that worked there who actually became a mentor to me.

I still talked to him occasionally. His name's Pinklin Thomas. He fought Tyson in his prime. One of the best jabs ever. And also one of the most epic Tyson knockouts ever. Like, sorry, Pink, but he takes, like, if you ever look up the Pinklin Thomas knockout, he takes like nine full fucking power shots from Tyson, just bang, bang, bang. The guy's just got a chin man of granite, you know.

Right. And, like, the fact that he took that many shots, you're just like, holy thing. He'd find guys that he liked, like, either they had the aptitude or the attitude or work ethic or whatever, and he'd train you. Now, he was one of those guys. So, and then also just, like, going to the detention center, like, you're either going to be a bitch or you're going to learn how to fight. Right.

Because, like, especially when you're, like, gladiator school type shit, like, you're going to fight unless you check in. And then eventually you're, like, hopefully at least if you fight enough, like, if you weren't going to fight him before, you're going to. going to get better um especially because like guys aren't really stabbing themselves each other like that because it's we're jitterbugs we're kids yeah um anyway so then like pink trained me and stuff and like made me just be a little smarter about how i did shit and whatnot and i got out and i was like man i don't want to go back i don't want to like do any more bullshit and i stayed out of trouble

for a couple years once i got off probation and said like i started i started like smoking weed again when i got off probation and all that i said i graduated high school like a year later um and you know my mom was very much like you were saying like your your dad or stepdad or whatever like my mom was like motherfucker you're 16 you're graduated from high school you're working full time like you're paying rent and uh and like obviously as a 16 year old young south florida kid like mainly my whole life was like work chase pussy and smoke weed and shit like that's it you know period and um so and then surf and stuff when I could, you know, but mainly work in chase pussy.

My mom is, like, nuts, like I said, and, um, but also very, like, Catholic in some ways. And, like, my mom is so, it's such a weird, like, dichotomy because my mom is, like, on one hand, like, I don't care if you smoke weed or whatever, if you're, like, off probation, like, or do some blow or, like, whatever. Like, even when I was, like, fairly young, God forbid if there you have a, girl over at this house. Right. A girl is-paying rent.

Yeah, I was paying rent. Yeah, I was paying rent. Exactly. And that was my, therein lies the rub, right? Like, bitch, I'm paying you $500 a month to live at home. And, like, hello, it just was always funny. Like, like, a girl is not like, like, could I have, like, a girl over? But, like, the door better not be locked and, like, you know what I mean?

Typical shit. Like, like, she is not staying the night at this house. Right. Period. And I'm like, this is bullshit. I'm like paying your rent like this. So I moved out, like, young and pretty much never looked back after that. But it's just always been funny to me, like,

that's the hill you're going to die on lady like like i can do drugs i can do this i can do that but like like having a girl over so like oftentimes like if i needed to like have a girl like stay in the night or whatever i'd go to kevin's house actually because i just have her stay over at kevin's house with me until i moved out of my own moving forward a little bit like i graduated high school and stuff and um somewhere like before i turned 18 i got arrested again for some dumb bullshit and um because you find a lot of these arrests and punishments bullshit but you keep bringing them on your I know I know I know I take responsibility for me they're still we're talking under 20 grams of in pot I hear you like and you're going to send me to

another in juvenile program for it that's that's what happened mind you I was like weeks before my 18th birthday I get called with under 20 a fucking pot and instead of like putting me on juvenile probation or whatever they send me to another level six program bro for fucking six to nine months right i'm graduated from high school working full time living on my own right and you're going to send me to a program with a bunch of kids what the fuck right what am i going to possibly do at that program you know so they send me there i'd like bring all my shit back to my mom's house because i'm going to lose my place and um i had to go back to this place for like six months i completed that program because

Because, again, I was older than everybody. Like, I was already 18. By the time the program had a bed open, I was over 18. A lot of people don't know that, like, for juvenile shit in the state of Florida, they will... Yeah, what can I go up to? 19, depending on... For me, like, someone who's like a level 6 and not classified as a show cap. With show cap is a serious habitual offender.

You can be 19 for something that's when their jurisdiction ends. If your show cap, it would be 21. Yeah, how upsetting it is that you know all these things. And you've got the an acronym down. I know, I know. He's got it inside now. You could be a counselor. Yeah, I thought about it.

They just don't make enough money. I'm happy that a lot of those programs have gotten shut down because, dude, that's a whole other podcast in of itself. What about the one? What about the one that, where they were killing people? What were they killing the kids? Which one? Is it a White House or something? What would they call it?

What I mentioned it in a program, I got like six or seven people telling me, oh, you're talking about the such and stuff. where they found all the bodies buried, like a hundred and something. Oh, oh, oh, oh, I know. Yeah, the one in Miami or whatever. Yeah, it's definitely South Florida for sure. Yeah, it's South Florida. Yeah, and I had all these people saying, oh, you're talking about the such and such house,

or you're talking about, they called it the White House. They called it the. Yeah, Miami Boys Home, I think it was or something like that. Well, then also you're talking, um, anybody that watches this that did programs back in the day, like Eckert Youth Development Center, EY, D.C, that was a level eight Polka. I think it was, OJOCC, Okotobie, Juvenile Justice, something rather.

Here's something more fucked up if you were a show cap, right? If you got sent to a level eight program, you didn't get to go home from DJJ, like how I would get, like, those 21 days and go home and then wait for the program. Right. You didn't get to go home. There's no bond in the state of Florida for juveniles or whatever. So you get sent into a level eight, right? I remember, like, getting arrested in, like, let's just using, as an example, I don't know the exact months, like a January, I get arrested, go in and do 21 days. There's a dude in there that's waiting on a level 8 program.

Well, I stay out for a few months, fuck around, da-da-da-da, I violate my program, or violate my probation nine months later. So now we're talking September. I go back in for another 21. This motherfucker is still sitting there waiting to go to a level eight program, which is going to be nine to 12, 15 months. So he's, yeah, if he passes, if they don't restart him a bunch of times. He's already done that in the county jail. And he's already, yeah, he's already been sitting in the juvenile justice thing for nine months

with no credit for time served, no nothing, waiting for that program to come get him. And I watched that happen multiple times, like even the guards were like, This is fucked up. Like we get sometimes guys waiting for a program for 12 months, 16 months. Then they go to a program for 12, 16 months if they do everything perfect and get out. Like I watched it happen to some of my buddies too. Would rather just gone to prison for the- Better off.

Or county jail or would, like, just holding these kids in there indefinitely. So f***ed up. Anyway, but like my own thing, I end up going to that second program. I was like I said like 18 already and I completed the program like faster than anybody ever I think I was out in five and a half months like because they didn't know what to do with me they're like okay so like you'll have class I'm like bitch I'm graduated from high school and have been for a few years and they're like well damn like what are we going to do with you and like ultimately the conclusion they came to was like well we're going to have you um

just like walk around with the maintenance man and like fix shit you don't know what else to what I could do with you because they never had somebody like me so like that's all I did for like the five and a half months I was there and then they're just like get out of here and I got out of that one and then I got out of that one and then like ironically I got out like right before the jurisdiction

ended um I because I had some probation when I got out too and as soon as I turned 19 the jurisdiction was done and I was done so um anyway but like again like to send me away like that again for like a little bit of weed like it was we're talking like weed on my floorboard right type of thing too um that was i had this like volvo station wagon the catholic school cruiser just for the state like oh yeah

just that you spent straight money grab man straight money grab for them because they're getting paid per per asses and beds you know what i mean it's just like if you look at the list of programs now it has shrunk so much but back then there was so many and most of them shut down and and like the corruption was just like ramp it like that's a whole our podcast to be honest with you fast forward like 20 21 or whatever um I end up uh I start doing pills again like I'd done them when I was younger and then when I went to that first program I told you about I didn't touch another pill again until I was in my 20s so like from the time I was like 13 14 like I didn't touch them again until I was in my 20s and I start doing pills again um just dabbling here and there I'm doing pills

and then I start going to the doctor to get them and all that shit. And I get tied into like, you know, all the pain clinics that were around in the earlier 2000s, earlier to mid-2000s, pre-2010 or whatever, all over South Florida. They were everywhere on every freaking corner, building out doctors' offices for doctors, like doing all the construction shit for them. Tillmills, right, the pill mills, yeah. Yeah, they're like, instead of paying me in cash for, like, my work, they're like, I'll write you a prescription for 240 blues every single day that you work for you and every person that works to any name you want. So I'm, like, getting a prescription for 240 written to my mom, my sister, whoever.

Like, I was running out of names because it was better than getting paid cash. Right. Because I could turn around and flip them. So, anyway, I'm, like, doing that. And I'm, you know, like, I was working full time doing air conditioning. It was kind of a constant in my life from 16 on. Like I started doing air conditioning then, did it ever since. And luckily so, because it actually, like, in a weird way, like, provided me with, like, being able to live on my own and, like, have, like, that one good constant in my life.

So along the short, I ended up just getting, like, really involved in the pills and shit after a while. I was dabbling at first and then got real involved after a while. So you're selling pills and you're working full time. Yeah, working full time. Right. Why sell pills and work full time? I mean... Oh, the money, man. The money was insane.

And I was just like selling wholesale, too. The money was insane. And I like to get high, too. Right. You know, but at that time, it wasn't just, like, support my habit type of thing. It was, like, the money was nuts. And everybody was on them, you know?

And, like, basically at the time, I was, like, me and one of my best friends had a house. I was working full-time doing air conditioning, selling pills. Kind of like a lot of my life was work full-time, selling pills, and chase and pussy. He sent me and my buddy out of a house. I immediately thought a fight club. I lived in the house that they had. We had this house.

It was like, we literally called it the animal house. It was because like a lot of my other friends, I mean, we were talking. I had that house from like age of like 19 on. And a lot of our other friends, like, just didn't work enough. It didn't make enough to have their own place. So it was just like constantly parties. constantly house full of you know

people dropping kegs and strippers and this and that and like everybody showed up at our house after work. They worked nights that all our friends that worked in the restaurant industry would show up after work with food and booze and whatever so just constantly like even when we were trying to have a quiet

night like next thing you know somebody pull up and like can we drop a keg here and I'm like no you can't know you're like no it's Tuesday night no you're not dropping a keg here and they're like oh come on man and then like another car pulls up and it's like six girls in the car and I'm like, drop the keg.

Of course I'm so shy. Drop the fucking keg. Yeah. Surprise I haven't gotten the keg out already. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And I'm like, as long as the ratios are good, like we're good.

So that happened constantly. Like I'm like, no, no. Wait, they're coming? Okay, come on. And so that was just like a constant thing. And I just always had pills. Everybody's coming over. I was selling pills.

And all the girls got on pills too. It was kind of crazy. like how fast, like, all girls were going to pills. They were all on Xanax back then. I stopped taking Xanax very, very young. I realized they were the devil. I think I was a teenager when I stopped taking them. I was like, never again.

Like, I don't like blacking out to the point of not knowing what happened, like, and not being able to remember. So I stopped taking them very young. But everybody else would take them. Those things were so cheap. Like, a prescription of 60 of them was like $16 back then. So they were like water. So I got like real involved with that and doctor shopping and stuff.

and my dad was shopping with me and stuff. Your dad was... Oh, yeah. I, like, my dad is a character. I mean, he just, the amount of things, like, here's a guy that, like, again, like, the things you think are normal when you, when you grow up with fucked up family life. Like, my dad, he's also diabetic. And so one time, like Kevin was staying the weekend or the night at my dad's house with us.

and the pizza guy came and my dad's like check this shit out my dad's huge man he's like six foot six two hundred seventy five pounds it's a big that's why his nickname was bear and he like takes his shirt off he's like this just big barrel chested

hairy motherfucker and he pulls out one of his packs of syringes and he's just like boom boom boom boom boom boom just sticks like freaking 20 of him in his like chest and in his fucking in his belly and then he like goes to the door and he's like

he like open up the door and the guy's like, and the guy's like, what the fuck? And me and Kevin are like, ah, like, dying. And my dad's like, help, help. And the guy's like, ah, like, just drops the pizza and, like, and runs. And my dad just like, he's like free pizza. And just like, like, that's the kind of shit that he would do. Like that same weekend, he like at one point, like, had these friends, Phil and Ginger

lived like diagonal across the street from us. They were like a younger, like she was a model. And then Phil was like surfer dude, whatever. and they would like buy pills from my dad or whatever and at one point that weekend like we catch my dad like walking back from Phil's house wearing fucking diving flippers like for his feet and a mask and a snorkel like walking down the fucking street from Phil's house

and we're like dad what the fuck are you doing and he's like whir-br-br-br-br-brum and we're like what the ha ha ha ha ha ha ha like even that was like kind of cringy for me but Kevin was like dying like and I'm just like dude I'm like what like and again like you're a kid you think like dad's just a nut he's being silly like no he was just having a borderline psychotic break because he just does that many drugs and like just out there man shit like that like just over and over and over and over again like he'd always blame because he was diabetic he'd always blame like being all wrecked on um oh my

I'm hyperglycemic. I'm hyperglycemic, you know, and he'd be, like, trying to, like, keep, um, keep awake while driving, so he'd slap his leg really loud. I can't even duplicate the sound. He would make, I, he would slap his leg so hard. It would be, like, my sister could tell you, like, now to both of us, it's, like, nails on the chalkboard, like, hearing that noise, like, like, like, oh, and he's, like, oh, and he's, like, make up little songs to sing and shit, like, and everybody's just, like, oh, you're dad's so funny. Like, yeah, he's so funny. Like, yeah, he's so funny. you get older like that this is not fucking normal normal people don't do this normal dads don't like wake up at three o'clock in the morning and not out standing up while cleaning the house and also like making a gigantic pot of from scratch oatmeal and like wake you up with like a place setting and it's like dad it's 315 in the fucking morning and he's like well i'm made oatmeal and i'm like what the dude what the and just like constantly constantly and then um Some of the shit he allowed me to do, too. Just, like, again, some of it I think maybe he thought I was going to do it out there in the wild anyway, whatever.

Like, I did ecstasy at, like, 13 for the first time. Somebody came to his house to, like, buy, sold me dad some ex-see, and they're like, I was there. And he was just like, can I give your son a bean? And he was like, if you want it. And I, like, took a bean and ended up, like, rolling with a stripper all night. I'm, like, 13. You know, and you're like, dad's the fucking man. I got to, like, take X and, like, roll with it.

the stripper like yeah you know but like no like looking like as a especially as a father now i'm like yeah what the fuck like this is not normal man and um it's just stuff like that like over and over and over again like so many things like i can't even think of them all sometimes like how many things he's still around yeah yeah surprisingly say that like i know well this is like the other thing about him is that like four heart attacks two strokes not going down shot several times stabbed a couple times he got hit by a mobile gas truck on a motorcycle and survived he fell 30 feet inside of the nuclear reactor containment at this i swear to god i swear to god um at the st lucy nuclear power plant broke both legs both ankles both heels spider red fractured his knees it's like himself up

bad. I mean, he's much Homer Simpson in the yellow bubble suit. Yeah. He's like sandblasting up there, steps from one scaffold to the other, and in the plank of the scaffold goes, whoo, and he just falls straight down. Soos him. That was his other thing, was suing everybody. My dad sued

Publixie multiple times, when Dixie multiple times, FPL, which that one was actually legitimate. You know. Okay, now that one. That one was legitimate. It was, it was funny too because he should have got way more money and they kind of fucked them a little bit like the surveillance video in one of the most secure places on the planet is inside those

reactors and the security video vanished um he sued the fucking girl scouts like again no joke because he's diabetic and they sold them cookies and they said it they were sugar-free no um so he's at like this is i was real young at the time he's at like the gulf stream council of the girl scouts like pot luck dinner or something and he's got like this utility size tray of lasagna and he's just the way he tells the story now is like he's like while I was walking and I'm carrying the freaking thing

it was like piping hot lasagna and I see like I look down at like the vinyl commercial flooring and I see like a puddle he's like and there was no wet floor sign or nothing and I just I aimed for it and I just knew what I had to do and he fucking Kevin's like it's not like it's the true like I've thought about like writing a memoir about it a few times

times because like there's so many so he took a dive man and sold the shit out of it and his knees and shit were so bad that he could just be like and tear his ACL pretty much when he had legs that is um so

oh yeah he lost both of his legs they're slowly been trimming him down or you're not not almost slowly when he still had a foot yeah and then at one point he's like drop the fucking thing off fix it they did that then he lost the other one you know so like once they did this leg they put the kibosh on the other leg and then the diabetics

like you know they they just keep oh yeah the toes and it's half the that's that's kind of what that's kind of what happened yeah that's kind of what happened with the one foot he's like stopped taking little pieces of me and just get far enough up but yeah he like took a dive and like burn the fuck out of himself because he got all this piping hot lasagna on him you know the funny part was like he would negotiate with the insurance companies a lot of the times. He wouldn't get a lawyer. He'd take a dive, let the insurance company reach out to him and be like, listen, this could all go away for 50 grand. You can, if I can overnight me a check right now, I'll sign the NDA, we'll be done. And he did that over and over and over and over and over

again. And he'd be like, you know, hey, there's a fucking puddle over there. There's a puddle over there. Like at Publix, he's like, he's like, Publix is good. I've sued them four or five times. He's like, good for the money. He's like their insurance company is great. He's like the adjusters can authorize up to 20 he's like you know 20 grand in less than 48 hours

you know he's a professional oh yeah he hasn't done it a long time now obviously he's lost his legs and shit

well it's hard to fake a slip and fall when you're exactly the legs are a big part of that I mean I suppose he could fall

out the wheelchair though you know if it I'm not sure how but it sounds like he'd pull it off I'm sure there's a way

yeah I'm sure there's he always says it's really just his hobby at this point yeah he always says it was like karmic

because he would always like do that like Eddie Murphy bit like oh I have no legs um and lost legs from it but um but yeah so like the point being is this is the kind of guy we're dealing with is when I'm talking about my dad but like um so yeah he we were doctor shopping and shit together and um fast forward through some time and um you know I'm doing more seeing more and more doctors and then I'm getting more and more fucked up too like I'm starting to do more and more pills and you know eventually i end up with like a 30 40 pill a day habit you know because i unfortunately inherited my dad's tolerance you know and um so i'm like doing 30 40 pills a day and eventually i end up getting arrested for doctor shopping and that's

what ultimately is it because of the the system or the no this is implement that system pre-system actually so this was 2008 when i got arrested How'd you get arrested? Just a pharmacy or? No. So one of my buddies, Greg, he'd come buy pills from me. Like, he'd buy like, you know, a 50 pack, 100 pack, whatever. And me just, like, trying to do him a solid.

I didn't live in the best neighborhood at the time. And he'd, like, always, he worked during the day, too. And I would always try to, like, look out for him. Like, listen, like, you're going to be driving home with a 100 pack or whatever. I'm like, I'm going to give these to you in my bottle. Okay. So you get pulled over. You can buy, oh, he's a coworker.

he left it in here like we could beat that charge yeah easily if a minute you get home destroy this bottle destroy the label right well Greg's a slob and like he had this like little like a zuzu extended cab pickup and he instead of destroying the bottle he like got home like transferred them into something else and threw him in the back like a little extended cab with all like McDonald's rappers and all his other bullshit is one of those guys that happened like twice that I know of fast forward six or seven months later he gets pulled over by like like the narcotics people, and they tear a struck apart

for his own shit that he's doing. What do they find? Two of my bottles. All right. And that's actually what started them investigating me, and they started going around to all the pharmacies and stuff

and checking and looking into it. And back in those days, they really didn't have to have a subpoena or anything. They'd just go in there and strong on the pharmacy. We want this guy's records, or we're going to brim-a-v-v-v-d. Right. They'd give him the records.

That's actually, like, Rush Limbaugh, when he got in trouble for that, That's one of the ways he challenged it It was like they didn't have a fucking subpoena They should have never given you those records Right And had I known Then when I know now

I may have been able to beat mine too Maybe I don't know But at any rate What they ended up finding was I used to have a rule No doctors in Martin County Where I live

Martin County is much smaller Than Palm Beach or Broward But for a little while There was this guy Dr. Villeff In Martin County It was just so goddamn convenient To have it in the same county You know

And so, but what I would do is I would see the left and I would go, I would drive all the way to Palm Beach County to go fill the script. Never fill Palm Beach or Broward County scripts in Martin County either. That was my other rule. Well, there was like one month, one month I was like going down and I had seen multiple doctors that day. And like my last doctor that I saw, I was short on filling the script because they used to try to fill them in office if they had an in office dispensary. I had to borrow some money from somebody when I got back up to Stewart. And instead of driving back down to 45th Street, which is like, you know, almost an hour away, I was like, I don't do that. And I took it to a pharmacy in Martin County and filled it.

Well, these detectives, they went around talking to each pharmacy, talking to each pharmacy, talking to each pharmacy. And they find the one month that I happened to fill from Villef and fill from another doctor. And then that was all they needed because it was the same, same month. And that's what constitutes doctor shopping, you know, at that time. Obtaining a prescription for a substance of like therapeutic value, I think is the way the statute is written or something. And once they got that one month, then now they know who the doctors are

and they were able to get me for the overlap, which was like January, February, March, April, and May, let's say, of 08. Do you tell them about your high tolerance? No, no. I was like, but listen, I need like, and that wasn't even one of my doctors. Oh, big guy. Yeah, I'm a big dude, the fuck. So, yeah, they got me for five counts of doctor shopping.

for that and they actually originally charged me with trafficking too kind of like that a ghost weight type of thing but they couldn't prove shit if it was the feds it probably would have been different you know they arrested me for it and they offered me 18 months and I was smart enough to know that that was a godfather deal and I just took it I knew I was like I'm not gonna even fight that 18 once I'll be in and out done you know and I was at work release within like eight months or whatever you know um so I went and did I went and did the time on that and I knew I was going to prison too so when they arrested me on the charge instead of bonding out on it, I just sat.

I knew I was going to prison for it because I knew I had five counts. The trafficking got dropped, and then the five counts I went and ended 18 months on that and then got out. How old were you? Shit, I was just turned 21 when I turned myself in. So when I got the arrest, sorry,

I knew a warrant was coming down, I should say, for the doctor shopping. So I kind of stayed like on the run for a couple months I wanted to turn 21 on the street and then once I turned 21 I was like I I'll turn myself in and get it over with which I'm glad that I did because three to six months later I had other buddies that got doctor shoppings and shit and they started getting bamed on them two years a piece and stuff on them so like I got lucky you know so I'm glad that I like had the foresight to turn myself in and I just didn't really want to be on the run forever because well

you know what being on the runs like it's it sucks in a lot of ways you know and I didn't have your resources either so i was going to say it the the doctor shopping you're going you're going to multiple doctors like that even five like that could be i understand you're saying your your pill habit was insane so so it's it's not as lucrative but i mean if you were just selling all those like that each one of those scripts is worth like 3500 bucks easy yeah yeah yeah no and i was selling a lot too and the problem is just to have enough supply right because i was the problem i was also not a onesy-to-zie dealer either i was like you know you'd get a hundred or 50 or i have a few of my buddies like my good friends if they were strung out like i didn't want them like getting tax on them i'd

sell i'd hook them up but i would never really wanted to be the guy selling onesy-to-z-to-z yeah like i wanted to sell 50 packs 100 packs stuff like that and i had a couple connections that were getting them from like straight from the pharmaceutical company or wherever i don't know where they were coming from but I could get them in like great quantity a thousand at a time, 2,000 at a time but those were not nearly as easy to find. I had like a corrupt pharmacist

that was pilfer in them and I'd buy like a thousand for 3,000 from her but that wasn't consistent. The only way you could like really consistently get a good supply was Dr. Shopping and sponsor people to go. So multiple people were going for you and stuff. Yeah, I wrote that book, Generation Oxy.

Yeah, okay, yeah. Yeah. And he did the same thing you did one time he got pulled over with some pills. And he was like, and it was barely any pills. Right. And he ended up going to a buddy who had a script and said, hey, I need you to come in here, write an affidavit for my lawyer, be willing to testify. And his buddy was, it's funny. I don't think I even put this in the book, but he said, I actually paid him to do it.

He's like, he said because he's like, like when we wrote it, he explained it to me. And I took the notes and then I wrote the story. but then afterwards he was you know what's fucked up about that he's like reading that i said what you make it sound like he just did it because i asked him he was he actually made me pay him and i was like oh you didn't mention that that would have been good right right right man this is that's not he's you make it he made you make it sound like it's a nice guy doing a buddy of favor he wasn't right no it was like no i mean i get it i get it um it's just especially at that time and it was all over the state of florida but south florida where on front was the epicenter like

And it was big up here, too, Tampa and all that stuff too. He drove down there, I think, once or twice. They ended up having a... Most people did. Yeah, they had a... There was one of the stores that was down there was, it was like America and Payne was down there. And they ended up going there. And it was the same thing with doctor shopping.

He knew his buddy went and picked up like homeless people or something or laborers or something. I forget. He drove him there. He's like, you got to sponsor him. You got to pay for an MRI. You got a paper. Like, you're dumping a ton of money into this. He goes, and then you're dealing with these drug addicts the whole fucking time.

Like, they don't want to give you the drugs. They don't want to this. They want to take off on you. They want to... Right. Yeah. I tried to send people that weren't drug addicts. Just normal people.

They wanted to make some money. Yeah. He had a few of those, but very... They're hard to find. Very few. Because they get hooked on the pills and they want more and more and more. Right. Right.

Because if you send addicts, it's like they're going to try to figure out a way to go without you and all this other kind of shit. So I get 18 months. I take the deal. I go to joint. I got lucky I didn't have to go to like a YO prison, a youthful offender prison, which is just another level of glass. I go to a regular prison.

I go to Marion, which is up in Ocala. I was on the main unit for a couple months, like way back in what they call the T-buildings, and that prison's old is from the 40s. And I was in the very, very, very, very back of the one T-building, and the T-buildings are just like they sound like their T-buildings. And they're like, you know, like this.

There's an officer station in the middle. There's an upper and lower tier that way, upper and lower tier that way, upper and lower tier that way. well at this particular dorm I was in the upper tier was AC confinement so administrative confinement before you've been sentenced to confinement and then I was

in the lower tier and that was just regular general population and I was in the very last room all the way in the end and it's one of the oldest dorms and there's a huge exhaust fan at the end of that hallway and it's just like whoa whoa whoa

just like very like like a movie you'd imagine Imagine like Carrie Grant or some shit from like the 40s or 50s is in like, you know, yeah, I'm doing time in prison, see? Like, just very like, you know, but it was super laid back, to be honest with you. Like, if you know how to, because I'd done all the juvenile time, like, I know how to do time. Right. You know, to stay the, my own business, stay the fuck out of some shit.

Like, don't borrow money. Yeah. Don't, yeah, be polite. Don't talk about people. Respect, respect, respect, respect, you know. I didn't really have much problem. And I'm not a pussy. So, yeah, I'll fight for my shit.

I need to, but I'm not going to go looking for it either, you know, and I'm not in gangs or nothing. What is the saying, like, the 3Gs, stay away from the gays, the gambling, and the gossip. Right. You know, the guys that get, listen, I've only, really only heard about a few people they got fucked up, that they didn't have it coming. Almost always you bring it on, you bring it on yourself. What were you doing?

What were you thinking? Every person that I've ever seen, like, either get poked up with a knife or, you know, get fucked up in general they deserved it most of the time i've just i've deserved it i've said that over and i've always said look i know it sounds up but if you get like if you get stabbed or you get fucked up in prison you had it common like they don't it's just not just suddenly somebody looks at you and and not that this doesn't happen but it's rare exactly but you know somebody to look at you and decide i hate him and they just come up and run up and start stabbing you you like that's not what happens you know you you ran up a gambling debt you didn't pay it the guy gave you

multiple opportunities to pay it then he told you to check in right you know this went on for two months and finally it's like okay well either i have to do something or every single person's gonna say hey i get to steal from you because you won't we now know you won't do anything so now i'm just right so i don't have a choice he can't lose his respect either right either i have to ship go to another place right or i can do something to you right exactly no and like again like to your point you already said it too like not that it doesn't happen and once in a while you've got that bug motherfucker who just I don't like the way Cox's

faces like I'm going to poke his ass up but that's exceedingly rare yeah like it does happen maybe but like that's got to be a mental health case or something you know but yeah it was like Marion was really fairly chill like

I had a cool bunkey it was a lifer you know and in Florida they don't separate right like you're going to be in prison like your bunky's going to be doing triple life, and you're going to be a freaking 21-year-old white boy that's, you know, doing an 18-month skid bid

on freaking doctor shopping charges, you know, in the way in between, and it's going to be across the gamut. So, but my bunkey was cool, and, and, yeah, we liked it. And, like, everything was cool. The back on track of Marien was, like, really fairly chill. I was in the main unit for longer than I probably should have been. I went to the work camp, hung out. the work camp for a while put in for work release went to work release um the first time and

it was like i said my first bid and uh went to work release and i was at um fort pierce work release that time i got a job in a bar being a prep cook and um my home girl i grew up with like it lived right around the corner it was great like everything was cool i was getting close to going home like probably eight nine weeks from going home and that prison was overseen by a martin correctional and there's a lady that worked there that was like a friend of my mom and her and my mom happened to have a following out

around that time. So she went to her bosses and said him being there as a conflict of interest and made me get transferred. So I got transferred down to West Palm work release. So when I got transferred down to West Palm work release, I was so close to going home. I wasn't even trying to get a job. Like it was

just stupid. I just kind of hung out there for like my last month. And I got out and whatever. So I got out like December 22nd of 2009, I think it was. You know, when I first got out, I was, I was being a good boy. I was trying, like, I was like, yeah, I'm done with all the bullshit, like, about doing a fucking pills, I'm not going around the wrong people. I'm not, none of that.

I'm not doing none of that. Like, and I was just working, working, working, working, working. I was working two jobs immediately, just saving up my money and shit. And, um, a common theme here, like, for me, like, you know, like, you know, I didn't expound on it is, like, women. Right. You know, and so, like, I've been in prison the past two years, I'm 21. You can imagine, like, I'm trying to get blocks at any time I can, you know?

Right. And so I was, like, hanging out with my buddy's girlfriend a lot. I wasn't messing with her, but I was hanging out with her a lot. Hanging out over there one night, I see some, like, knockout come. And I'm like, God damn. And, like, another one of our mutual friends, homeboy, this kid, Timmy, is kind of a dork. And he's, like, we're, like, sitting there hanging out. And he's like, oh, like, you know,

because I'm like, you're trying to break the ice with this freaking hot girl. And, and Timmy was like, so, like, how was prison, Anderson? All my friends go to me, Anderson. Now I'm just like, looking at this motherfucker, and I'm like, what a dick. You like, really? Did he do it on purpose?

Oh, it's totally on purpose. Oh, I thought. Totally on purpose. I'm like, you motherfucker. Like, I'm purpose to be a dick to, like, make me look bad or something. So I'm like, you fainter-ass motherfucker. I'm like, you know,

stand a chance of this girl anyway because you're a dork like straight up so i'm like all right and i just like kind of looked at him for a minute i was like well timmy you know i knew my life hit an all-time low when i'm jerking my dick in a porta potty on a prison farm in north florida and the girl like fell out of her seat laughing she thought it was funny and like like at that moment he was just kind of like damn you made that work foiled like somehow you made that work and then also like when i when she found that funny i'm like i can work with this yeah so anyway like i like tell like they're left a couple more times talked her a little bit and then like told my my own girl lindsay i'm like hook me up and i end up uh

start talking to that girl for a little bit i don't want to say her name on here but uh she she was in playboy she's very pretty very very good looking girl um so i i kind of talked to her for a bit mess around with her for a little bit and this is during my like i'm being a good boy phase fast forward like a month or so ish and i end up like popping by one of the home boy's house a few times who's like still doing pills and selling and shit and i wasn't using or nothing but i'd like stop by and see them because they're my friends finally like i ended up using i used and i wasn't wasn't it hadn't become like a bad habit again yet i was just using a little bit weekends whatever and then i'm there um on like a random like tuesday night

and like when I get there there was already some girl there and she's like a little five foot spinner like you know five foot brunette 105 pounds soaking wet all right

super cute and like damn but I'm not really trying I don't know anything about this girl's background I don't know her I don't know she got a man I don't know nothing I know she's buying pills you know so I'm like they're buying pills or whatever

and I introduced myself to her of course and I was at my buddy Travis's house and we're like, just kind of small talking or whatever. I was in the middle of getting my license reinstated at the time, too. So I, like, rolled up on a bike after work, too. So it's like super not doing great. I really only been out like a month and some change. Anyway, as I leave, I get a text from Travis,

and he's like, hey, he's like, remember that girl that was just here, Megan? And I'm like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, that's her name? Yeah, Megan, okay, yeah. and he's like, well, listen, she was like, he's cute, like, give him my number. And I'm like, bet. And he's just like, he's like, you know, I give it like a couple days before he call her and shit. I'm like, no, I'm never played that game. I'm like, I'm just, I'm a fucking text her or whatever right away, like, whatever.

And I text her like two hours later and we just start texting. And this is, you know, it was 09, so you still had to do the ABC, you know, we're like just texting all whole ton of. We text like all fucking night that night And like all night the next night And that one went on for a couple nights and stuff And I realized like me and this chick have a lot in common Now mind you the chick that was a knockout was a knockout She was a bag of air dude

She was so stupid A lot of times that's what happens Yeah, just bad They don't have to develop the personality Because everything's completely easy Yes and like And not to speak bad about her Because she was a sweet girl

But like like oh like the cheap like why are you always using such big words and stuff and i'm just like oh my god like sorry like like i'm having to like give her vocab to like deal with my vernacular like anyway so me and me and me like hit it off hardcore you know and i like come to realize pretty quickly that like it seems like she's like the female version of me like same like like the same obscure punk rock music like everything i'm like interesting so we had got a chance to hang out yet and then after like a week or so of talking like she happened to be off on like a friday night we hang out like with a mutual kind of like a double date scenario and i tell this to

like kind of show you the progression but like we hang out i'm going to like fucking bowling of all things we leave the bowling alley and um i remember like her friends were driving us back to her her house. Before we got there, the friends kind of like, oh, like, we'll drop you off and then, like, we'll drop Anderson off after. And, um, and Megan just was like, no, he's coming with me.

And like, I remember the girl just looking at her, like, being, like, pretty jealous. Feeling some kind of way about it, you know? She's like, no, no, no, he's coming with me. And then, like, I'm like, okay? So, like, we get dropped off and then her and I go to the bar and, like, get a couple drinks down the road. As we're leaving the bar, it became like a, you know, it was like,

oh, you're like, you're going to give me a ride back to my house or whatever, and she was like, you're not staying the night? And I'm like, I bet, you know? So, like, now, like, we're getting this point. Like, we both like each other a lot. Well, like, I'm, like, trying not to, like, fuck this girl the first time we hang out with her. I end up, like, letting her know that I have a blue. I have a roxy on me.

We ended up, like, splitting a blue or whatever, and, um, hanging out, one thing leads to another. and let your imagination take care of that but um one thing leads to another and like you know me this girl just have like insane connection though like besides just the bedroom stuff like also like in general and like it went from like that first night I was hanging out together she'd give you ride home the next day and then like two days later like stay there over there again mind blow like come back like go home then like the following like weekend i like went over there on like friday and i'm not sure i ever went back home right like i was staying with my

mom i'm sure i like she was just like you stay here now like like i said originally i was trying to be a good boy and then like her and i were like doing some pills or whatever i was like really scared to sell again and stuff because everybody was snitching like this one set up that one and that And I've been gone for the last 18 months, so I don't know who's snitching and who I shouldn't talk to and who I shouldn't deal with. I'm like scared to sell, but then now we're getting high all the time. And then it just became like all we did like every day was like I would either work or do our jobs or whatever to make money myself. She would be a waitress. Just all of our money pretty much.

We're staying together like at her mom's house. And all of our money pretty much want to lose. Anyway, but like again, I don't want to sell or nothing. Like I don't have any way to like supplement. and it's getting expensive because we're both we're both doing them and my tolerance came back like you know and like basically we would just like in the mornings like wake up and like get all ready and stuff like I didn't go out and like make money or whatever and then she'd work her restaurant job or whatever and it's pretty much just like work throughout the day like get a bunch of money

together you know we'd have some blues left over for the night before it so we weren't sick the next day but like work like wake up get ready get our stuff together go to work pool our money get a bunch of drugs go home get high and then for like hours on end because opiates do that to you and that was like my life with her basically um so that's like all we like literally that's all we did so like that's what i was doing with her and um money got tighter and tighter and then eventually you know she gave me some shit to like here like take this to the gold buying place i thought it was hers i tell you like if i knew it was stolen i would tell you like i knew it was stolen I didn't know man

Like I legitimately didn't know Because had I known I wouldn't have done it Right I would have tried to find Like a fence to sell it to Or like melt it down You wouldn't have given

Your I your ID Yeah Like I'm not that stupid So like I legitimately thought it was just like Her shit You know Maybe she got it

For her first communion Or some shit Like she's like Irish Catholic too So anyway That happened a few times Like I pawn shit Or sold it to the gold Buying place

Or pawned it or whatever that happened and then um she actually ended up like stealing some shit from my mom while we went over there for like dinner or some shit one night she sold that stuff my mom noticed that a couple days later then asked me straight up like did you take any of my stuff like are you using again but i'm like no i fucking tell you mom i'm like but no i swear to god i didn't she's like all I'm going to make an insurance claim then because all my shit's like insured it's not like my mom had crazy jewelry it was on the homeowner's insurance policy also around this time Megan's family had some money

Like her mom had some dough Her dad definitely has some dough He lived out of state somewhere I don't know But her mom had some dough And like unbeknownst to me Like a couple times We like went to have dinner with her mom Like sat down and had dinner with her mom

And then Megan's like I'm running the store real quick She like run the store and come back And all I know I did Now this I knew she was doing something Flammary wise I just didn't know exactly what But she would like

We'd go from like zero to 100 she'd have no money I'm running the store real quick she'd come back with like two bucks a pack of cigarettes for her a pack of cigarettes for me and like a thousand bucks and I'm like where'd this thousand bucks come from

but I'm not gonna ask any questions either I know you're doing something that's not right I'm also not gonna ask questions I'm to find out she was whacking her mom's bank account just withdrawing money right her mom had like in her everyday money market

I don't know if she had sold a house or what she had like 870 G in there though so her mom didn't notice for a long time fast forward some time and then finally one day we're like sleeping in bed like first thing in the morning and like her phone just starts blowing up it's her mom and then her mom's like she like didn't answer like did the voicemail she didn't answer it she's like my mom knows i'm like your mom knows what she's like i've been like whacking her bank account for like a thousand bucks like hey where you think i've been getting all this money from and i'm like uh and i'm like well is your mom i'm going to press

charges on you? I'm like she had plenty of money in there because she had told me like beforehand like yeah my mom's got like 900 grand in the bank is your mom gonna like press charges on you she's like no no I'm just gonna tell her like I need help but I'm probably gonna have to go to rehab and shit and I'm like okay like whatever like yeah we should and then like she finally calls her mom back and her mom's like you fuck you like you little fucking cunt you're going to jail and so is your boyfriend and I'm like your boyfriend how'd I get involved exactly I'm like how the so like this is like going back and forth and I'm like we got to go we gotta go we're gonna go gonna go get out of here we got to go and she's like well and she's like I'm like dude your mom

already called the cops and I'm like Meg's we got to go I should you sure I'm like we got to go I'm like we're going to jail I'm like I don't know how I'm involved in this but like we gotta get I don't want anything to do with the cops I just got out of prison seven months ago or whatever so um we haul ass in her car and like as we were hauling ass like the cops we're pulling into the neighborhood. Right. And so, like, we leave. We go stay at my buddy Will's house

who lives out in the middle of East Bump, nowhere. It's like a place a couple times I've been on the run from the law over the years that I hid from them. We stay out there for a good week or two, I think. Come to find out, um, I had, like, called, like, the bail bondsman to see if there was a warrant out for me and shit.

And come to find out some of that, some of that jewelry that I pawn was not, in fact, Megan's. it was her mother's and then so now i've got warrants out for dealing and stolen property i'm like fuck i'm like i'm so i'm like that's a freaking second degree felony i'm i just got out of the joint like i'm fucking so then i'm like well fuck it i'm going back i'm going back and megan had like stolen a checkbook from her mom so i like do some things get us some money and uh that went on for a few days and got got us a good bit of money in the hotel one of the days then we go back to my buddy will's house and we're there

first thing in the morning one day and we just like wake up and i just never forget like i wake up and we're like going at it in the spare bedroom and like i would just hear and i'm like how the fuck do the cops like i already do it was a cop i mean how the they know we're here of all places i'm like either somebody that's tell them we're here like i don't fucking understand so i knew was the costa we like hid from them for like a while because we're like in this interior bedroom that you'd never know we were there but her car was there i'm like well never gonna see you again they're probably gonna get me 10 years i'm like i'm like honestly like you don't have a record and you're like this like pretty like girl from the other side of the tracks like who's family

has money and like maybe just tell them i made you do this stuff i'm like i'm going to prison regardless so like i'll take the fall for it like just tell them i like was abusive and, like, made you do it. She's like, okay, and we let's, like, kind of hide. We hide for a while, and I'm just, like, Meg's, like, we can't keep hiding. I'm like, they're going to wait us out, like, whatever. If we're only going to go out there and we, you know,

like, turn ourselves in or whatever. And I remember them, like, sitting us down in the female detective being like, Jesus, honey, like, look at you. You're, like, on death's door, like, talking about Megan, like, because she lost weight. She, like, I said, she was, like, 100, 105 pounds soaking wet. so like she was probably more like 95 right then so and then she's like in you you're like mr baby face like you can't even tell that you're strung out on drugs she's like it's crazy

um fast for they take us to jail and they hit me with nine counts of dealing and stole property in a credit card fraud and uh i end up um kind of lost number of some stuff in jail because it's not important but i end up they come at me with an offer for 40.4 months and four years probation and I'm like done how much 40.4 months what does that mean that's my sentence 40 40 months yeah 40. 40.4 months yeah you never heard the point four months they do that shit sometimes it's weird yeah um if you look it up online months if you look it up online it'll say 40 months but I've known a lot of people to get the point four or whatever it's weird but I got a 40.4 months plus four years probation so when I went to court next or no I asked the the the public

pretender I'm like listen see if you give me straight time like five I'll do five you know straight up well when I asked for like he comes back he's like you can do the 40.4 plus four or you can do eight I'll take the 40.4 you know yeah of course I sign it and that was that I go off to prison again I stay in contact with the girl um most of the time actually she kept writing me like a long time and time goes on like I stay in contact with her I'm trying to get to work release again because I can be down by home and I went to Franklin Correctional up in the panhandle it's up in Carabelle Florida it's right near Apalachicola in middle of bum fuck nowhere just like a lot of these prisons and that place was just like super locked down super like controlled movement and a good old boy network like they're using taxpayer money like out like the maintenance uh area like there was a dude that like he was like the welder on the welding squad and literally all that fucking dude did was build smokers out of steel that they bought with you know prison

material money right and he'd build every officer sergeant lieutenant whatever had a fucking badass smoker built by this dude totally way he would even build the trailers for them right and it's just all prison money that's building all this shit I just always like they just got away with that kind of shit all the time and like they'd have like their

staff appreciation day and like they have like that same dude that well did like would help them make barbecue and dude they'd be like smoking like 36 Boston butts on like just all bought with taxpayer money just like filling up their cars with gas and just you

no name it man just constantly constantly constantly doing shit like that anyway my whole thing was just like get to work release get to work release originally like I was still talking to Megan at the time I was like I'll get to work release I'll see her again everything be back to normal right because like I loved this girl to the death like we were toxic in a lot of ways but like Bonnie and Clyde like also super close in many ways and you know it's just like all I wanted to do was get to work release it was like right before I put in, she just like dropped off the face of the planet

and I didn't hear from her. I didn't know that she went to jail again for violating her probation. Oh, okay. But she dropped off the face of the planet. As time went on, like, I get to work release. I end up seeing her once

and I could tell like shit was different. She was like, oh, I love you to death, but like my family, and then I'm like, oh, whatever, bitch. So, um, what happened to Iowa? You went from I love you to love this girl to death then whatever, bitch? Like, well, no, I was,

I was pissed because, like, why have you been writing me for four fucking years? Right. I love you. Like, pretty much riding out with me for four years, sending me pictures all the time, and, like, all that kind of shit to, like, oh, now that you're in front of me, like, I'm going to let you, you know, come give you some sympathy, whatever, because you're at work release, but, like, I don't know, my family, and then I would, like, read, I don't want to be out of my daddy's will or something, you know, what it really, like, boils down to. So I'm just like Like again Like why keep up the charade for the past four years then Obviously you felt this way for a while

Like I mean she just pissed me off It was it was you know it's like writing the guy The soldier to give him some hope to get through it You know in a way it was probably You know And it did help I was gonna say

But like at the same time it's like You're expecting this All these four years or whatever Then you're like I hear you What the fuck? You know, and like, don't get me wrong, I could have just been, like, normal guys. Do you ever see Jarhead?

Yeah. Same thing. Right. Same thing. Right. Like, most guys, it's just, like, two seconds after they're gone, it's like, Jody's over there, you know what I mean? I mean, I, you know, that's, but, you know, it's hope that gets you through it.

Right, right. And, like, and the truth is, like, I knew what her sex drive was like, I'm sure Jody was over there. Right. As soon as I was gone, but she at least wrote me, so that's cool, you know? So, you know what I mean? but that's whatever like so I'm just like well like if you're that worried about your family like don't talk to me like I basically was like don't talk to me no more than

bye bye and then I just like I work at least like my biggest focus is just like saving up as much money as possible I don't want to go back to Mark County when I get out I want to save up as much money as possible get a place down in Palm Beach County I'm just like working as much as humanly possible there where are you working? I was working on an auto body shop called a diamond auto painting in Lake Park, Florida

and so my buddy Dan who worked at this custom truck shop right down the street, this guy was telling you about that was like actually he was in prison but he was an Abercrombie model at one point he worked at this custom truck shop because he's actually a really good mechanic

too like lift kits and like all that kind of shit and he used to walk past the auto painting place every day and he saw help wanted signs so when I got to work release he's like dude I know you to do like auto body and stuff like as a second job like along with air conditioning like I could probably get your job my bet let me know so I wasn't even there a week I already had a job and so like everything was good and like I got the job and was like working there and I've always

been a hard worker like and I want to know everything about everything so like just the way my mind works so I'm like I'm doing paint prep I'm painting I'm doing body work I'm detailing I'm helping the manager with the weekly business report doing like our gross profit and you know taxable blah blah you know that goes on them it's like doing that for a long time I was there for 10 months or so um and so around this time around this time I start like having these two officers kind of with me a little bit at the work really center they start like ransacking my room and like holding me in from going to work and like all that kind of stuff and I just like I don't understand why, because I was, like, textbook model prisoner.

Right. Like, I go to, I leave for work at 5.45 in the morning, and I'm not back until 8 o'clock at night, I think. And all I do is, like, I get back at 8 o'clock, I do my chain gang workout. I go do muscle ups and pull-ups and dips and shit. And I take a shower, and I go to bed, and I'm saving the next day. So, I'm like, why these guys fucking with me like this? they show up my job a couple times they were supposed to do

but they never did before they only had shown up once before in 10 months now they've showed up three times it's just weird so like we're progressing along and then I'm like telling my bosses and stuff like I don't understand what's going on like these guys are with me

so like they'd held me in for work and they would notice that like my boss would come get me like if I didn't make my bus ride which was a two hour bus ride to work Like, I call my boss, like, dude, these fuckers held me in from work. He'd drive over and get me and bring me to work. And I, like, it seemed like that pissed them off. Like, somebody would drive out of their way to get me.

So these guys are messing with me. And mind you, like I said, I'm like a model prisoner. I'm just working, like, 12, 13 hours a day coming back to the center. I'm, like, going to church on Sundays every Sunday. During that time, like a few months prior to this, like probably July, August or so, I meet a chick at church and we kind of start talking just friendly, innocently enough just talking at church

she's not from the female work release center she's not whatever she's a free world chick that as it turns out as a teacher at the school attached to the church and we're talking and it's progressing as time goes on and obviously I'm interested in her she's smoking hot, you know, tall blonde chick and um you know she ends up becoming my girlfriend and uh you know like you're not you're not trying

to fuck up yeah i'm not trying to fuck up i'm like literally on the straight and narrow i'm done sick and tired of being sick and tired i've been in and out of fucking institutions since i was 13 14 like i'm done i'm not selling any drugs i'm not doing anything i'm not even like thinking about doing drugs i'm like i just want to like get my shit together and i met this chick that's awesome you know she's a teacher like she's awesome some chick like pastor's daughter like from the Midwest you know whatever so I'm just like on the straight and narrow and I like telling her like man these these officers fuck with me and I can't figure out why I don't know why they're messing with me this kind of comes to a head like I said

like February and I'm at work one day where I'm doing the weekly business report with my manager Diego and you know we're going through doing our weekly business report and all the sudden the two officers show up at work and they're like can you come out here with us please I'm like yeah and they're like show us where the toolbox is I'm like what are you talking about

they're like the toolbox where you keep your money and I'm like what are you talking about I'm like I don't have a toolbox I'm at work release dude I'm like and I work here like everything's provided by the shop like show us where the tool

like where's your little station where you work and I'm like well technically like my title like I work here You can see there is a toolbox here, but it's like, got 10 years with the dust on it. Like, it's not mine. I'm like, feel free to look through it. I'm like, there ain't no money. And they're like, listen, I'm going to level with you.

We know you're selling blues on the compound. We know you're dealing drugs. And, you know, people are getting high on the compound and we know it's you. And I'm like, I don't know who gave you that information. I'm not doing shit. I'm like, if you, like, watched me, you would know I create no trouble there. I go to work. I come home.

I go to work, I come home, and that's it. I'm like, I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm like, oh, that's it. And they're like, yeah, well, we know, like, we have it on good authority that you're like, I'm like, how many times you guys ransacked my room and found nothing? Right.

Now you're here, you're going to find nothing. I'm like, I'm not doing anything. Like, have you considered maybe whoever told you this? Obviously, somebody told you this. Have you considered maybe that source was wrong? And they're like, no, no, no. So, they're like, oh, you think you're trying to be cute, whatever.

Come out here. with us, and they bring me up by the van, which was parked out front, and they pat me down and, like, put me in the van, and they're like, listen, motherfucker, you're going to pay to play or we're going to take you to jail. And for those that don't know, in the joint, like we call it getting taken to jail going to confinement, at least in the state. I don't know what they do with the feds, but that's going to confinement. So I'm like, dude, I don't have nothing for you.

So then they, like, grab my wallet. Now, you could draw $100 a week out of your inmate account for Zoom, Zooms and Wham-Wams or whatever you want to spend the money on. So I've got like 90 of the 100 left. So they, like, I'm back outside the van at this point. So they pluck the 90 out of my wallet and they're like, go back in there and get us some more money and you're going to jail right now. Like, if I don't know what to do, you know, I'd go in there. I'm like, I know my boss will give me some money to give to them. So I go in there, we had just taken like $370 or so.

from a bumper job that we did for a guy and he paid cash. So I go inside and I tell the one officer to go around and go into the shop I needed to talk to my boss and I'm like dude these fucking guys are extorting me like I need some

dough to give these guys and he's like what do you want me to do? Like very like thick accent Diego had he's going what do you want me to do Ryan? Like I don't have money to give you and I'm like give me something out of the till motherfucker and so he's like I have that cash

that we just took from the bumper job I'm like that should be enough to get them to go away so he gives me like the 370 bucks or whatever I walk out back into the shop and our shop was in like kind of a high crime area so like as I'm walking out to the shop with the dough in my hand I'm like wait a minute I'm gonna position this for so he's right on a candid camera right because we got cameras everywhere so I boom I give it to this one officer right on camera Why don't you backing it up? The officer I gave it to was Officer Brown. The other officer that's fucking with me is a fucking lieutenant.

Okay. He's a lieutenant, a white shirt. Right. Like, anyway. There's no, no misidentifying them. Yeah. Or it's pretty obvious what's happening. Yeah.

And like, it's pretty obvious they've been doing this. Because you wouldn't be this brazen as you're like first time. They've been doing this. And like, I've told people like when I've told this story, like, if I was doing dirt, I would We gladly paid those motherfuckers and been like, here you go. Right. Whatever. But I wasn't.

So I was kind of like righteously indignant about it. Like here I am trying to like actually live right and like you're shaking me down. Right. And so. I don't have like I'm make, I'm not making enough to keep doing this. Right. Right. So you're giving me really one choice.

Right. Like either I've got to, well, two choices either I've got to start doing it to pay you. Right. You know, or I got to figure out another way out of this. or I guess three choices or just go to the you can go to the and feds it's the shoe

you can go to the hole you can go to the hole right for doing nothing right I can go to the box I gotta sell drugs to supplement the income to give them the money or

I've got to report them somehow and hope that it's not one of their buddies I give the money on camera I walked back out with them to the van and he's like listen

we're gonna be back Monday for this is the lieutenant telling me that she's like we'll be back Monday for $500 more, we're going to meet you at that Benjamin Moore store right there across the street around lunchtime. Better have our fucking money, basically. I'm like, they leave. I go back inside. I'm like, oh, my fucking God,

dude. And we call our boss boss, the actual owner, Bob. And he's like, you call it cops. The real cops. Right. And so we call the real cops and we call our IT guy to come pull the camera footage and shit immediately because it's on a loop. It's not, it gets re-recorded every 72 hours.

They said in court, like when the shit went to court, that like, It was unclear on what he gave the officer. It's clearly money. Right. But whatever. The point is, like, Seth pulled the camera footage, and then PBS, O, Palmer Sheriff's Office's cop, finally comes.

And that cop, like, when you realize I was on work with, he was a complete dick. Complete dick. But I'm like, telling him what happened. And then it wasn't until, and I also called my girlfriend. And I was like, hey, baby, you need to get up here right now. Because I don't know what the fuck is going to happen. But, like, I want to see you if something goes down, like, get up. here and she's just gotten off work too so she's just like threw something on throw some yoga pants

and hauled ass up there to see me she had gotten there like probably 30 minutes after the cop and by this time i'm sitting down like writing my statement out and the cop was a dick all the way up to the point where I handed him my statement and he read it and when he read it he was like making these faces and I'm like what he was like nothing you're just you're not a dumb ass right and he's like this is like the best like the most well written statement I've ever read in my life and I'm like thanks and he's like well no I just like normally guys in your position they're

fucking dumb ass and right he's like why are you in prison I'm like drugs do they make you person you're not normally whatever so then he starts being kind of cool with me and he's like listen did he see the footage you show him the footage yeah he had seen the footage you know and I showed it to him again once he read my statement and then now he's like

okay I got I see what's going on here. The beginning footage of them looking through a toolbox and all that, too. We had all that. It was on camera. Them pulling up, them walking. Like, we had all that. So, he's like, all right.

Well, listen, PBSO probably won't touch this unless it's like a task force thing. He's like, but he's like, would you be willing to wear a wire on these guys when they come back for the extra 500? So you can really, you know, stup them. And I'm like, yeah. I'm like, I don't know. I have no snitch. snitch on nobody, but, like, snitching on prison guards, fuck a prison guard.

I will snitch on a prison guard all day along. Maybe if they were doing bad shit for me that was for my interest, that would be different, but these guys were trying to... You're shaking me down, yeah. They're shaking me down. I'll wear a wire on those fucking assholes any day. I'm like, yeah. So he's like, well, the FDLE might reach out Monday, like, whatever, whatever.

So I'm like, okay. We leave. I leave with my girlfriend. We go get dinner. and I don't know if they're just going to arrest me right when I get into the center. They don't. I go through the whole weekend.

Everything's normal. I see her at church on Sunday. Everything was normal. What's she saying? She's just like, what? Like, this is fucked up. Like, they can't do that. People that haven't been in the system, you know.

I always love when people that haven't been in the system say those words, they can't X, Y, Z. And you're just like, oh, honey, you're a person. You have no clue what you're talking about. You've watched too much TV. Yeah, they can and they will do whatever the fuck they want, whenever the fuck they want, however the fuck they want, legal or not. So, especially with the corrupt as Florida Department of Corrections is. So fast forward to Monday morning, I'm walking out of the center.

It's 5.45 a.m. Mind you of those two, like, this is an important detail. Those two prison shit eaters, they work 8 to 4.30. I'm walking out of the work early center to go catch my back. bus, my first of two buses and two hour bus ride it takes to get to my job, I'm walking out at 545, and as I'm like probably almost a block away, a white van comes up on me. And it's these two motherfuckers, Lieutenant Bo and Officer Brown in a state van in uniform at 545 in the fucking morning when they should not even be on shift yet. Right. And they're like, get in the van. And I'm like,

dude oh my god like these guys gonna like they're gonna fucking go kill me and dump me in the everglades like but i really can't make a scene and say no either so i i roll with it i'm like i'm like hold the fuck on i got to grab my cigarettes i grab my cigarettes i get in the van and we leave and i'm like they're like we're gonna give you a ride to work and i'm like fuck you know well i try to make them stop as many places as possible like i stopped and made them like bought a pack of cigarettes at this one store made sure I'm on camera notated in my brain what store it was and I stopped at another store I'll buy work same thing made sure I'm on camera and like I knew the owner of that store because I stopped there every day and I'm like hey you know like you need to save this

footage for me so anyway um they get ready to work the much it's early as fuck it would take me two hours to get there on the bus right so we get there and it's super early and we're just like sitting there like do do do I'm playing along with them like I'm going to get them more money but I've got no money to give them. Right. You know, I'm just like waiting for one of my co-workers to get there, basically. So my one coworker gets there, Eddie, who's a great dude, but he'd come in at like seven, and he would always leave early on Friday.

So he had no clue what happened on Friday. Right. So he comes in between 7 and 7.30, and he didn't know what happened on Friday, so he's empty and trash, and the dumpster where he pulls up, and I'm like, Eddie, it would be cool. He goes, oh, see, you got a ride this morning, huh? I'm like, that ain't no right. I'm like, those are those fucking assholes that keep messing with me. I was like, dude, they shook me down on Friday for money, blah, blah, blah.

It's a long story. There's a police report underneath the desk in the office if you want to read it. But like, it's, it's fucking bad. And he's like, motherfuckeruckers, you know. He was a good old boy from North Carolina. He's like, that motherfuckers. I'm like, I need to stall them because, like, the, you know, FDLE and everybody was supposed to get involved.

He's like, all right. So I proceed to, like, open up the shop. and like just kind of go about my day like hold on guys i got to look normal and i stall as long as humanly possible i stalled for like over an hour i stall stall stall stall stall stall stall and finally the lieutenant is just like you're stalling we're going to take your ass to you i'm like hold on hold on like all right i'm done playing i go back there eddie is on the phone with 911 at this point and i'm like like i'm like do they're going to take me in whatever eddie's like take my phone talk to the dispatches go lock yourself in one of the cars if they try to come in here i'll

I'll scare him out of here. So, like 15 minutes go by, and I hear Eddie start yelling. And what I didn't know is, like, they're looking around trying to find me, and they looked in, like, one of Eddie's things, and Eddie pulls his gun on him. And because Eddie keeps the freaking 45 in his toolbox. Right. He's getting to fuck out my shop right now. And they're like, oh, we're just trying to help, Brian, because he's got money he's not

supposed to have, and we're going to deposit in his in-made account. Well, they are brazen, right? Brazen is, man. And Eddie's like, that doesn't make no fucking sense. Like, how would that make any sense? You're going to help him? He's like, get to fuck out of my shop right now. So I'm in like a Jeep Grand Cherokee, like, down on the floor board, like, talking to 911,

like, trying to explain what had happened Friday to her. And it's just, it's a nightmare. They find me in this Grand Cherokee. And they're pounding on the window. I was like, get out, motherfucker, da. After a few minutes. PBSO cop car pulls up soon as the regular cop car pulls up I jump out of the the Cherokee I said listen sir you can arrest me right now cuff me up like I'll go wherever you take me to county take me wherever I just don't want to go anywhere with them I'm in fear for my life so he immediately cussed me up throws me in the cop car he's like trying to talk to Bowen Brown who like you can see like steam coming out of their ears as they're like trying to figure out a way to like make this makes sense right because they're like trying to talk to bow and Brown who like you can see like steam coming out of their ears as they're like trying to figure out a way to like make this makes sense right because they They've not thought of backstories to tell other cops, you know?

So they're like, oh, yeah, we were going to, you know, do the thing for the stuff and the who's he what'sets and the watcherjiggers and, you know, and the cops like, okay, okay, yeah, he's a word of the state. I'm going to give him back to you. So, like, he makes a big scene, opens the back door and then, like, leans in. He's like, Mr. Anderson, we were literally wiring up your boss at the Kmart around the corner. Fuck. And he's like, these guys. thwarted the plan he's like we don't know why they picked you up early or what he's like but unfortunately he's like your boss is actually going to come here and try to be like hey can

I just give you some money to squash all this maybe they'll they'll take it maybe they won't and he's like if it would have been nice you could have scald a little bit longer like he's telling me this really fast right he's like well listen I got to let you go with them he's like but just know you're being followed he's like if you go back to the center we're going to be watching nothing's going to happen to you're like we're not going to let them kill you or nothing yeah you don't they don't know that exactly like they could have killed me in that van and nobody would know at least till that was dead they could take you in the fucking hole and and do any number of things to you and say

we found him he hung himself right well first they had to take me back to the work when we said they could have strangled me with a seatbelt in the fucking van and said i'm saying that doesn't mean that once you're in in the place oh even worse yeah worse yeah so at any rate um they give me back to them and then now they're like ha ha motherfucker you thought you were gonna get over on us i'll show you like i have way more power than you like um you're gonna lose all your gain time you're fucked i'm gonna give you a line to staff dr i'm gonna give you a da da da da dr whatever i'm like you both of you you know um and in the end uh we start driving back to the center or no we're about to start driving back to the center Diego my

My manager comes up is like, hey, can I just give you guys like $1,000 and we'll just squash this all? Right. They were smart enough to be like, no, no, no, because, like, too much had happened. We'd drive back to the center, and I'm, like, so nervous the whole ride back. Like, a matter of fact, the guy, Officer Brown was sitting behind me because the officer Beau douche was like, if he tries anything funny, wrap that seatbelt around his neck and fucking strangle his ass. Literally, like, told him to do that. and which he didn't do

but could have happened. We get back to the center and we're back at the center they put me in the officer station and they immediately like go off to the side and go try to figure out their stories. There's some officers working

that know me they know I don't cause any trouble and they're like Anderson then Beau comes back in and he tells us one officer officer Campbell he's like hey listen Campbell I need you to put that we signed out the van at 0800 right at 0800

right and then we just got back you know right now and Campbell's like but you didn't you were already gone when we got here and he's like just do it like I'm the lieutenant just do it and like when he walked away I liked Campbell I painted his car I'm like don't do it Campbell my lawyer's gonna have a field day of this shit I was like I promise you you don't know what's in motion here but shit's about to go down and he's like shit you think they'd do anything for my black ass man fuck that cracker I'm not doing shit for him and like literally like no sooner do he say that Maybe five minutes later, like, the fucking doors to the center, like, fly open.

And it's, like, the warden, the Florida State Inspector General, PBSO, FDLE, like, all those people. And they're like, where's Ryan Anderson? Where's Ryan Anderson? Like, where's he at? They, like, make sure that I'm okay. And they're like, get him out of handcuffs right now, blah, blah, blah. And they're like, where's Beau and Brown at? And they were, like, at the, there's a road prison right next door to the work release.

They're, like, at the road prison, like, off in a corner, like, talking. So they grab them. You start questioning everybody and everything, but, like, there's a lot of damning evidence against them already. Right. Because their story already doesn't make sense. Yeah, it makes no sense. At the very least, you've already lied on a police report.

Right, right. Which is, at the very least, enough for them to get fired. Right, right. Let alone, you know, charged. I think you can get two or three years for lying on a police report. And it's worse when it's an official making that kind of thing. So I get questioned about the FDLE and all these people and all that. And they're just kind of corroborating what I've already said.

and then the real kick in the ass about this thing is like I was good at work release instead of letting me stay and finish out my last 55 days or whatever that I had left when this all went down they send me back to Martin Correctional again which oversees West Palm work release by this time I'm put me in AC confinement so I'm an administrative confinement in the box and I just like I'm back there for like 40 45 days I think when I didn't do anything wrong you know so I'm gonna say you know what's funny is like the the warden of the prison has the right to release you exactly like the warden they could have just gone and explained it to the

warden he could have said okay you know what can you do you have somewhere to go right like we're going to send you home but you're done right it's 45 days you're done you're safer at home which is exactly I actually when I mean when I got interviewed with the FDA Lee I actually suggest that. I'm like, they can't just do an emergency release. It's 45 days. It's nothing. That's a joke. I've already been locked up for years. Exactly. I asked like that and I was just like, and then when they said that they were going to send me to Martin, I was like, you guys are like playing with my life. You don't know what buddies they have at Martin or whatever that could mace me to death back there in the box. Like anything could happen.

But no, I do my 45 of my last 60 days in the box. Then I go to Bell Glade for like my last 15 days or whatever 14 days then I get out I get out and once I'm out like this this whole case and everything has just been like crazy my girlfriend's been in the newspaper right because yeah the articles I read

in the newspaper yep so by this point they've arrested the guys have they charged them and everything they've not by the time I got out okay the arrest came later however like my girlfriend like once I get sent to the box and everything she's just like beside herself

and she's like feverishly writing me trying to figure out where I'm at FDLE had questioned her and then they like questioned her and then like when they sent me to the box I think I think they like told her they didn't know where I was at

which freaked her out she had no way to talk to me to know she's like what the fucking what do you mean you don't know where he's at so anyway um All these things happen, and it's just like a whirlwind of... It's like something out of a bad B movie, you know? And, you know, we're going through the whole kit and caboodle here.

Are they ever going to charge these guys? Like, no, I'm out. Are they ever going to charge these guys? Like, what the... I knew they were suspended, like, right away. Right. Without pay. Well, finally, I want to say it was like...

So I got out April... I got out Tax Day, 2013. I want to say it was like September. they finally officially charged both of them with like official misconduct and a couple other things and so um they arrest them they charge them

the white shirt guy got a good lawyer Michael Salernick he's pretty good he gets pretty good lawyer Brown doesn't has like a public pretender and uh the union doesn't do shit for them so um anyway I end up

hearing they get arrested I'm like finally yeah they're get arrested and just to show you like how slow the wheels of justice move in our system if it was me I would have been on trial in three months right because these guys were pregnant guards it was three years before one of them went on trial which was the lieutenant they wanted to always try the lieutenant first because they're like you know some may say our case is weaker on the lieutenant but like that guy he's a white shirt like fuck him so like he's higher up whatever so long and short we end up to go to a trial

and I think his lawyer with depositions and all this and his lawyer is like very clear his lawyer is going to be like attack my credibility attack my credibility attack my credibility attack my credibility I wish it was recorded because I mop the fucking floor with his lawyer I mean I mop the fool I made him look like a fool just I have a good memory and stuff right he tried every way to trip me up and get me to you know get a rise on him me and stuff and I just I mopped the floor with that fool and uh like even the other the dude beau like at one point it was like uh can you identify that man in the in the courtroom and I was like yeah he's a guy over there with the with the cheap men's warehouse suit on and the bad hair piece

or whatever right and like the whole courtroom was like it was pretty funny um he gets convicted at trial bam um on everything the judge like oh I got to do like my victim impact statement and I wrote like a solid gold impact statement right which part of it was just like me trying to rub it in but part of it really was like I'm trying to change my fucking life here yeah like I really truly is trying to change my life like um no mind you when it finally went to trial three years later that girl that was my girlfriend is now my fucking wife right um we got married and um I'm just like working my ass off to get my shit together the ex girl had you know that I was with before

I went to prison the second time our restitution was joint in several who do you think had to get stuck paying all the restitution this guy

and by the time the three years had elapsed I had already gotten off probation paid off all my restitution to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars gotten married like all this shit

like all I was trying to do is get my shit together man that's it I wrote this impact statement that was just pretty much like a big you and like you're entrusted for the you're in a position of trust and you're supposed to be keeping me

part of it is is part of it is you know yeah you're a jailer you're supposed to keep me incarcerated but you're and following the rules but you're also supposed to you're you're entrusted with my safety yes yes so and so yeah they they um I forget what there's like a three Cs or something in control care comfort of control care care or something rather control, like the DOC uses. Yeah, they just violated all that shit. And, like, the one guard, the officer Brown, I, like, almost fell bad for him.

I didn't, but almost because he was like Bo's puppy dog. Right. I guarantee you that pussy would have never done that without Bo. He's a pussy. And so, but, like, falling in Bo around, like, you know, I can make a couple of them. raggedy-ass dollars like well how many people were i mean how long had they done that and for and what i mean what is your what do you think because you're not you're clearly not the first person

they'd ever done that too i think that bow had been doing it for years right as like almost as long as he's been working at the center brown hadn't been an officer long enough i think i was probably one of the first people that he ever like and it went way wrong it went way wrong to lost his career over it. So once Bo got convicted, Brown took a deal. Lost his career and got like, he was just barely like at that point where they get a vest.

Right. I think it's like three or five years for them. So they're just barely getting the vest. So he lost everything. Not to mention like all the time he was out on, um, all the time he was out on, um, admin leave and all that kind of shit. So like that's basically what happened. And like,

after it happened, like I had other guys, but like yeah, they were making me pay rent too but the thing it was like those guys wouldn't come forward because they were doing shit yeah yeah you know what I mean so it's like and um yeah

dude it's just uh the Florida system is so so corrupt like I can like go on on on about it but um that's a story for another time but like the fact that you know he only got a few years too it just annoys the fuck out of me

too like that you guys deserved to get 10 years because he was also a piece of shit to prisoners. You know from being in the feds, too, like we're already doing time. Right. That's our fucking punishment. You don't need to be punitive too. Right. You don't need to be extra.

Yeah. I like the guys like the guys that, um, the correctional officers that are basically, it's just a job. Right. They show up. They do their job. They leave. It's the guys that get there and they want to, they want to talk down to

you they want to they want to belittle you and and make your life much much harder they want to write up incident reports for things that didn't happen right or you know i've seen got you know they they'll go in and there's all those stupid things you'll lie on yeah not not even i'm not even talking about guys that'll plant stuff like you don't you don't have to plant someone to give them a hard time plant stuff on you could just go in and flip their bed like people don't realize like i've got to sell if the guard walks in and he flips my bed and you're over or just pulls he can just mess it up and write a report boom guy didn't have you know this inmate didn't have his bed um you know in in good shape or maybe i've seen guys get written up

because the guy two cells down borrowed a newspaper and he went to return it and he put it on the guy's bed boom inmate has something on his bed like i didn't put it on my bed right somebody else did and you write me up and now i lose 30 days commissary or i get you know something happens to me or maybe you don't, maybe you'll lose your two-man room and now you're in a three-man room. And you're like, it took me two years to get into a two-man room because I lent a paper to Jimmy and Jimmy wasn't smart enough to realize you shouldn't have thrown it on my bed. You should have handed it back to me. And you know I didn't do that.

I was at work. Right. When I left, my bed was fun. When I came back, you've written me a report, you've written me an incident report because Jimmy, when I was at work through it on my paper. Like, it's so unfair. And people think, oh, well, what's the big deal? The big deal is it took me two years to get.

get a two-man cell. I was comfortable. I did nothing wrong. Right. And now I'm going to a three-man cell with two other guys. That would be uncomfortable. That's extremely uncomfortable. And, you know, it's just this, and people don't, you know, they don't realize how, you hear about these guys who were like, this guy got stabbed because he, he lost a guy's book. Like a guy, I lent him my Game of Thrones book, and he lent it to somebody else and that guy got shipped or he gave it to somebody, and now they can't find it. And next thing you know, somebody gets stabbed over it.

And you're like, God, you stabbed them over a book. You don't seem to understand what happened. That's not the book. Like there's a whole other, your priorities are so shifted.

The things that mean nothing out here that you wouldn't think twice about are so overwhelmingly important. You make decisions and you do things that you would never do on the street. Until you've been there for four or five years, it still seems silly. But four or five years later, it's not silly.

You know, you can't talk to me like that. You can't say that. You can't do this. You need to return that. That's why, like, to me, luckily, I was sharp enough not to get into those. I don't lend things. I don't do this. I don't do this.

I just don't have it. I don't lend it. I don't give it. I don't this. I don't borrow anything. I'll do without. No, I'll go without coffee for a week. I don't need to borrow coffee.

I'm good. Yeah. You know, like across the board, there's all these little things that just kept me. out of trouble because I saw things go so wrong for other people. Little tiny nuances that are a big deal. Yeah. A big deal, you know, or can be. And a lot of it is just respect

things. Yeah. Like, just boils down of respect. A lot of a basic level, a lot of it's just respect, respect, respect, respect, respect. And then so many other things, too. Like, I'm going to borrow from you. I'm going to pay you interest. Like, fuck you. Like, I'll go without. You know, and I'm not going to, you know, I'm just not going to do that you know and I I just say I've even bought stuff for some for people and they're like no

no no no no right this is yours you don't know you don't know you want to give me some of those back that's fine it's up to you but what you know right this is yours I'm buying it for you right it's yours yeah it's um yeah I bought a guy uh um like a you know like a toothpaste one time because he's using the regular toothpaste all the time I know he had money and I bought it The Bob Barker. Yeah, exactly. It's better for polishing metal than it is for doing your teeth. Right.

But it's just, it's a horrible, it's a horrible situation. Just what's your priority? I wish I could think of a way to say it. Your priorities are so skewed and so fucked up after being in prison just a little period of time. And I've seen guys that just, they don't, they get themselves into trouble right away. right away right away they don't let a chance done you right away

yeah and you're just like bro what'd you do like you got here you're within a week you're running up debts you're borrowing money you're doing like you're doing everything wrong you try and tell him they they that guy's good bro no he's not good you don't know that guy

now we're from the same neighborhood that doesn't mean anything you're doing way too much right come down like stop what you're doing a couple little white kids get themselves in trouble that way like just oh man he's nice he like letting me this I'm like did you not watch the honey bun video bro

like come on like this is like prison 101 did we you weren't paying attention to the honeybutt video were you guys used to say what's the difference between the low and the medium I say in the you have to have heard me said I'd say in the medium

if a dude leaves the Snickers bar on your pillow don't touch it in the low you can eat it you'll be fine right right right right nobody's going to do anything they're walking around tough guys they're at there they're acting like bad asses and stuff. But for the most part, you'd have to really give them a reason.

Yeah, you'd have to really, really give them a reason to go after you for the most part. Like, we don't have medium and low in state, but we have, like,

higher institutions. Yeah, they have levels, right? It's a level five. It's a level seven. Yeah, yeah, whatever, like, or whatever. Like,

but you've also just got some places that are wilder than others and you've got to know how to move and know how to do your time. this is the same thing like there's guys that would be in the like listen like the low and yazoo is worse than the medium at coleman you know what I mean like that's right of course of course in the low here like if you're a sex offender like don't even don't even look in the window of the TV room as you walk by right you know that like they they keep their heads down they don't you know in the low these guys it's these guys would actually come in some would just stand outside the window and they'd look at sometimes there were sometimes when they'd actually go in and watch a program like they'd have to really petition to be able to watch a program but it happens you know these are sex offenders yeah these is the sex offenders but this is a low 50% of them are sex offenders what are you going to do you know there's too many of them right but you think about in other institutions like these guys are walking around they're staring at the ground they eat glass they did like you know and it could be even a higher it could be even a lower custody it just depends on who's running it Like, just because it's, what happens at a low in California is vastly different than what's going to happen at a low in Florida. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Yeah, like, for state side for sex offenders and, like, me personally, it's, like, pretty much smash on site or check in. I didn't even get into that part of, like, my own story, but, like, so I'm a survivor of that. There's a couple people in my neighborhood that I grew up in. there was like actually not one but two like pretty prolific i know now right sex offenders that molested numerous boys in my neighborhood like numerous ones of us and we all didn't know right that he got a bunch of us until later and and it fucked up like a whole generation of kids like actually because he got so many of us um and so like for me from that perspective like I personally put a lot of people shit on the glass like you know you get those like

dorky fucking, fucking dorky little white boy or something they all got to look man they do a little wheezel it's usually just a little weasel it's usually just a little weasley little dude and you're just like paperwork and if they don't have paperwork you know you're like my lawyer told me not to talk about my case you're going to get smashed yeah put your put your fucking shit on the glass how about that like um or like i worked at maintenance when i was at franklin and um you don't want to say how but we had a way to like you know not even with a cell phone it wasn't we had a cell phone we had a way to look up people's doc record and like i remember there was this like this dude that was like he would run ink and stuff he was like goddamn good tattoo artist but i overheard him a few

time he was in line like on the way of the child be like oh yeah look at her or look at him or whatever and he's like talking to some other dude like i like i like to fucking just take that or whatever whatever and i'm like this guy this sum's up with this fucking guy so i decided to look his ass up he's in for an l-and-l on a victim under 12 and like and everybody was like kind of like Oh, he's a fucking outlaw biker, the, duh. And maybe he was. He had the tattoo and shit, but I don't give a fuck. I personally was like, put your fucking shit on the glass.

And I had printed it out, the printout, and smuggled it back in. I was like, you get your shit out in the glass. And he's like, I ain't no fucking sex offender. Blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, listen, dude, put your shit on the fucking glass. And he, like, started to refuse at first. I said, listen, I'm going to really throw you under the bus now. And I was like, I'm just going to do something, and you're going to see why you need to put your shit on the glass.

And I just pasted it up on the officer station, and everybody immediately got to see that he not only was there for an L&L and a victim under 12, but he was a multiple-time sex offender. Right. He was a fucking prolific sex offender. And, like, I'm one of those people. Like, I believe that people can't change if they put enough work in. However, sex offenders can't be rehabilitated or get what anybody says. Those motherfuckers cannot be. rehabilitated all they want to do is figure out a way to get away with it they're not like drug addicts and gambling addicts and fraud addicts right you know who can change like that's like a switch or something is fucked up in their head that they are attracted to my nurse it can't be fixed they might as well just jimmy rice act all of them put them in a fucking island somewhere send them all to fc's island or some shit like i don't know like just do something with them um you know it just they

they can't be rehabilitative. I don't care what anybody says. You just can't. But anyway, I digress. But it's just really sickening to me the way those people operate. But like, and I've heard that about the feds

though that the low sometimes are just like. Well, because there's so many that are arrested. Exactly. And what's happening, they'll go in. They'll get these guys that are, you know, they'll arrest 45 guys on one case.

They'll arrest because they're doing internet crimes. So there's so many of these guys feel comfortable in the intergram, they're looking up. stuff they're just looking up photos and so if you even have looked it up and have it on your computer you're getting three years mandatory that's it three years so you so they flooded all the lows they can't you know they're it's it's not they don't consider like a violent crime so they're not going to the mediums but they can't go to a low because there's because because of um public

public um public uh safety so you can't it has to be a fence so it's a low you're only going to the lows. So the lows are packed full of them. Wow. And so now they just fill them up, fill them out, fill them up, and, you know, what do you do? And then just recently, about a year or so ago, the halfway houses started taking them again

in Florida, because Florida used to not allow them in halfway houses. They're not allowed to go to work release. Right. For like states. But you've locked up so, you know, it's like, okay, great, you're going out, you're getting them, you're doing something, that's great, but you've only, that's only half the problem. Now, where do

they go. Well, that's because the motherfuckers no time either. That's what really irks me, too. Like, I'm about the feds. I was going to say, in the feds, here's the problem. So if you actually couldn't be a hands-on offender in the state, and you can get probation. But if you looked at a picture in the Fed, you're getting three years. Now, if you have multiple pictures, you could end up with three, six, nine, you could end up with

there are guys that have 15 years because they had a video or they went to, whatever. And it's like, okay, but he didn't get a hold of anybody. This guy got a hold of someone. Right. And he got 12 months in the state and five years paper. It's like, are you serious? This guy, this guy yanked somebody into a van. Right, right, right, right, right.

This guy looked at some pictures. I'm not saying either one of them is acceptable, but 15 years versus 12 months. What are you doing? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever as far as I'm concerned. But I've just noticed, you get somebody that pawns some shit. You give him fucking five years, four years, whatever it may be. You got a guy that, you know, got an L&L on somebody under 12, and they get in 24 months.

Right. They may have a lifetime of probation after, but still, like. Well, I think, you know, the problem is, is that for, it is a, it's a, it's a situation. And the problem is, for some people, it'll never be enough time. You're never going to get a consensus on what, what constitutes enough time, you know? If you're a little old lady and you lost half a million dollars of your life savings to a white collar criminal, some people are saying, it's a, he's a white collar criminal, but if

If it's her, she's saying, give him life. Right, right, right, right. You know, say, well, if I give him life, what do I give the murderer? What do I give the, so it's a, it's a balancing act. It's also just because I don't believe there could be rehabilitated. That always sway is my thing. Well, I think, and here's the other problem with my opinion on that is like, now we have to house them. Like, you know, kind of like what the judge said, like, how much resources can you throw?

Right. And you can't march them off to the, you know, to the, you know, to the, you know, to the gun range. Right. So it's like, you know, not that there's not a whole, not that I don't think that that vote would pass. But nobody wants to even put it up for a vote. Right. So it's like you're like, ah, it's such a, it's, there's just no good solution. No, no.

Like, that's why like there always seems to be like a place that they go. It's like, you want to know, and I can grade their own food, you know, they can be completely, create their own culture. Off grid. It's fine. You know. right you know so parents can threaten to send their children there when they're bad there would be a whole there would be a whole there'd be a whole genre kind of a set up just around that whole thing you know people would write books there would be it would be yeah yeah it

would turn into it would turn into the boogey man oh yeah it'd be like my parents tell me they're going to give me to the gypsies right when I was kidding we're going to give me the gypsy what the fuck are even are the gypsies I don't even know the gypsies are, but the fact that you guys are threatening me with me? Yes. I don't Yes. They would tell us that all the time. Like, we're going to give me to the gypsies. I'm like, the fuck even are the gypsies.

The Hungarians, the fucking weird English people, like the Brad Pitt and Snatch, like... I love that movie. Yeah, that's a great movie. But, yeah, I mean... Well, yeah. What are we, uh, are we good? You feel good? I think so.

Okay. I think so, and I can tell Kevin doesn't feel good. I can tell Kevin is having some problems. He is. I was like try what I can tell you was. I feel bad because I know he doesn't have any food in his stomach. Yeah. So the story behind that is these guys had a bad meal last night and they spent a good portion

of last night being sick at the hotel and this morning being sick. And when I got the phone call this morning, it was like, I think we're good. We're on our way. There's nothing left in our stomachs. We're good. But Kevin, who's watching, is gone to the bathroom. It has been good, but has gone to the bathroom several times and not, obviously not doing well. So I thought of a title for a book when I was in prison.

I was like, you know, I'm going to like write a memoir and just call it weird shit and amazing tales. Like my life in times as a degenerate drug addict in South Florida. um and uh that would be good it was a great title yeah i think it's a pretty good title and now i'm putting it on the internet so some other asshole i read it but um i always thought it was to be a good title though and just like put a bunch of like my dad stories and shit in there because there's numerous so but yeah yeah i was

your dad's story sound like my cousin's story of a cousin who is uh addicted to meth and and was in prison has been prison in and out of prison for and manufacturing meth. Oh, geez. And so he, he, uh, he just, he had one story after another.

And I, his stories were, they were great, bro. They were hilarious. And I remember one time he said, I, man,

and just the way he talks, man, I had a credit card one time. I couldn't break it. I couldn't break it. It was a corporate card and I could just buy and buy and buy. And I used this thing for weeks and I couldn't break it. He was in my girlfriend.

He goes, the girl I was seeing, she said, baby, baby, take me into the store and let me, let me, uh, give me some diapers to you. So I go and we fill up the, the cart with diapers, and I swipe the card and it's good.

And we're walking out with the, you know, with the cart filled with diapers. And the manager comes out. And he runs up to him and he goes. And he says, hey, hey, hey, we got to come back in the store. You got to come back in the store. We're going to talk about this. And he's like, and he's like, oh, wait a minute, wait a minute. So the guy says, uh, he says, man, come on.

Let me just, just take the diapers. Let me go. Let us go. And he goes, nah, you should have. He was, oh, oh, you should have thought about that. And he looked at him, he said, I, okay. And he pulls, and he's got a, he's got a gun. My cousin's got a gun. Pulls up, pulls out the gun and puts the sand on the gun.

He said, he said, you know what? He said, help her put those diapers in the fucking back of that truck. And the guy's like, oh, wait a minute. I got a kid. I got a wife. And he goes, oh, you should have thought about that. And he says, he loads them up and tells him to kick rocks. They get in the ground and they leave.

Fuck that asshole. but you know he's just one story after another it's like every one of them's hilarious yeah i just there's those people out there just on the fringes yeah yeah they're full of them my dad's like a florida man without being a florida man he's from connecticut but he's i don't think you have to be born here to be a florida man i don't even feel like you have to just reside from a natives perspective yeah i don't think you have to be born here to be a florida man and like florida's full of up people from ohio that's like oh you're up and from Ohio come to Florida you know Tim Dorsey used to say that in all of his books

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