Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Innocent Man's Last Interview Before 16 Years In Prison ( Illegal Raid & Arrest )
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They found 48 shell cations on the outside of my door.
Has anybody screamed police?
Nobody has said anything yet.
No crime was committed in that house.
So how can you just come and kick my door down?
And now I got to go do 16 years when I wasn't doing nothing wrong.
My thing is, I know the cop.
I rode motorcycles with him.
This is something before this happened.
I bought him lunch.
They won't let me fight it.
And the same judge that signed the warrant is my trial judge.
That seems like a conflict of interest.
People say wrong place, wrong time.
How is it wrong place?
I was in my bed, sleep where I was supposed.
supposed to be. I'm a little depressed for you. I'm depressed myself. I wake up every day thinking
about it. My name's Nelson Fizarro. I was born in Yarkers, New York, 1982. My mother was, at first,
was a stay-at-home mom. My father went to jail when I was around 8 or 9 years old, right around
89, 90. He caught a Fed case. He wound up doing 10 years. He came home when I was, he came
He came home when I was a senior high school.
Yeah, I was, I was thinking, oh, he went away for six months, but no, if it's a dead case.
Yeah, he came home when I was a senior high school.
What happened with your mom and now, you know, like, you're without a girl.
So my mother, who's the most official lady I've ever met in my life, she stood, she did the whole time, my father.
Every day.
We never missed more than 30 days.
So she wound up getting a job in a bank first.
she started working in a bank right before my father went away just because she was she wanted to work
and she had always worked when we were younger because we didn't have money so she wanted to be
to stay on him mom later on when we moved to standout and then she started working right before
my dad got locked up she was a teller in a bank then when my father got locked up she wound
of being a secretary at some some office and then it was hard on her to get us to him because he's so far
so she wound up getting a job in the airlines for at the time continental airlines so that she can
get flying privileges so that we could fly to him because you fly for free but it's stable so
for 10 years we never missed never went longer than 30 days and that was whether we had to drive 10 hours
waiting, waiting the airport for two, three days because all the flights are full,
and we fly standby.
She did what she had to do to make sure that we saw that man.
We never went longer than 30 days.
Sometimes it was twice in a month, but we never went longer than 30 days without seeing.
Okay.
What happened when he came home?
He came home.
Did something happen between then?
I mean, you're getting in trouble or not?
No, no, no.
I didn't get in trouble until I got to come.
Okay.
So I went to Catholic school my whole life from kindergarten.
I graduated high school Catholic school.
Okay.
My older brother was in the streets.
Me and my younger brother were definitely not in the streets.
We weren't even allowed outside.
Like, my father would ground us from jail on the phone.
Like, I would never want to sneak out.
I've never cut a class in high school.
I don't even know what it feels like to cut a class in high school.
I played basketball.
My father came home right around my senior year.
He went to the house first.
And he went back to doing whatever he did.
He wound up, I remember I wasn't going to go to my senior prom because I don't care about stuff like that.
And he wound up getting me the big stretched Hummer.
Now, my mind is this in 2000 for just me and my date.
Is that you want to go to the prom?
I'm going to send you right.
And he got me a stretched hummer just for me and my date.
But he always encouraged us school.
Like that was his thing.
Go to school.
go to school, go to school, do whatever to school.
I wanted to be a lawyer, actually.
So I played basketball.
I went to a school that's closed down now.
It's called a Green Mountain College in Pulteney, Vermont.
I redshirted there, and I went to a college, American International College, in Massachusetts.
That was my first brush with the law.
I got in trouble for having a gun.
This is in Springfield, Massachusetts.
Okay.
The only reason I had the gun was because it was,
me and one of my teammates.
He's from Tarrytown. Larry Gibbs.
He's actually, he turned out to be, he's a cop in Texas, man.
All right.
We were smoking weed on the sideblock next to the school,
and there was some young kids throwing bottles out the window,
and they hit a car.
The car backed up and pulled up on us and hopped out and pulled that gun on both of us.
Are you throwing bottles in my car?
And I'm like, nah, we were just.
over here smoking we didn't do anything we know who y'all are and left and the next time i
i seen him i had a i had a gun on me and um and he wanted him running and telling that i
had a gun on me so i got in trouble for that i want him getting kicked out of school i came home
when i came home i went to the streets i didn't know nothing else me being stupid thinking
I could do what my friends are doing at the time.
I went to the streets.
I started selling drugs.
Well, how much for the gun?
What happened with the gun?
What happened with the gun was I had a lawyer up there named Vincent Bonjourney.
Okay.
And on a technicality, he got me like a federal, because up there a gun charge of the Fed case.
He got me a federal ACD.
Basically, don't get in trouble for six months.
Okay.
So I came home and I was like, I'm going on the streets.
I told my mom going to the streets
and I moved out of the house
I slept in cars
I slept at my cousin's house
wherever I didn't want to do nothing
and I could always go home to my mother's house
forever my mom is the most official
lady ever
and I went to the streets
You say you went to the streets
What does that mean?
Started selling drugs
Okay
Started selling drugs
Started selling drugs
Trying to figure it out
messing money up
being broke
And then I started doing really well
What'd your dad say
Does he know
he's got it now at the time he was at the time he had caught another case he was in the feds okay
when i went to go see him he caught a case the day this is how crazy the feds are the day he signed
out on federal probation he caught a case they violated him they said we're violating you for um
going out the country he went to dominican republic like 17 times was like all right it took him into
custody he takes his jewelry off because he's like a 80s
80s gains it like he 3 p2, $2,000, $3,000 suits, shoes, like that was his thing.
P.S.J. Watch, pinky ring. So he goes and later to sign out like a real big shot and they volley.
So he comes back the next day to get his jewelry and stuff or a couple days later, whenever we were.
And the PO was like, oh, you're not going nowhere. We're locking you back up.
You got a new case, money laundering in Puerto Rico.
So he wanted to catch another case. He's fighting the case.
We're in two years for that case.
They sent him with four Dix.
I went to Fort Dix to go see him.
And I told him I was selling drugs.
At this time, by this time, I was doing well selling drugs.
So I actually went to ask him, like, for advice.
Right.
He walked off the visit.
He what?
He laughed.
He walked off the visit.
He said, I don't know.
I'm not condoning that.
There's nothing, hell no, no.
Figure it out yourself.
You figured it out.
this far figured out yourself and he walked off the visit okay so um what did you think was
going to happen you thought he was you know here's how you do it or you got it's what you
thought he was yeah i thought he was yeah because you can't if it's see if it seemed like he's not
in a position to judge you but he's super just disappointed he was hoping better for you he was
definitely hoping better for me you ever heard that term and he paid so much money for my lawyer in
in Massachusetts.
Have you ever heard the phrase or the term or whatever?
Your father is the only man alive that will want you to do better than him?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
So he never wanted this life for us.
Like his thing was, I was the first person of my family to go to college.
So that, I'm saying.
So he walked out to visit.
So I wound up catching another gun charge.
in Staten Island, because I'm from Staten Island.
So when I caught the other gun charge in Staten Island,
I'm fighting a gun charge, fighting a gun charge.
I want to be in probation for the gun.
The judge says, don't let me see you in front of me ever again.
I'm giving you a shot.
I had a chance to go play basketball in Puerto Rico,
some pro basketball stuff.
So he's like, I'm giving you a shot.
Get out of here, do so much in life.
Three months later, I get caught in the,
conspiracy for doing somebody a favor.
How's that?
You had to do with me. So,
I was selling drugs at the time, but
the person who I was getting the drugs from wasn't from
staying out.
I had a friend of a friend.
This is, this is the,
this is how my life been going since it the back then.
At a friend of a friend who was getting
drugs off of me.
The person who I usually
get it from wasn't around.
Well, I can wait. Me personally, I can wait.
He's like, yo, I really need.
needed, uh-uh. So I called somebody that I knew that would have it that I never get from,
ever. This is the first time I'm ever dealing with him. And the day I went up getting the
drugs, mind you, the drugs in the car is only the kid that's in the car with me. They were watching
a guy that I bought it from for two years. Right. And I caught a case. They stopped me. They
knew what was there because the phones were tapped. And the kid that was in a car with me told
on me saying that they were my drugs when it was on phone tap saying that listen these are his
they're going away everything it was all his I had that and money in the car the money was my
and drugs I didn't want to tell him a guy so I want him getting six years I fought it for two
years and I want him getting six years were you on bond for the two years no because I was on
probation for the gun okay so once I got the probation violation it was old so you already got two
years in. So I got two years in. On six. On six, nonviolent at the time. This is when they just
changed the laws where you're doing eight months to a year on merit. This is that the third.
I go up north. I do another two and a half. I come on my working lease. I'm in work
at least doing my thing. Working. I'm working for my father now. He owned the pallet warehouse.
And yeah, I came home already. He started doing the right thing. He was doing some truck and stuff.
and he had owned a pallet warehouse that refurbish pallets and sold pallets.
So I was working there.
I actually almost cut my hand off there.
I hurt myself or whatever.
So I'm working there with him.
And then I had lose my overnight's because I made it back to the facility late.
It's Lincoln in Manhattan.
So I'm dealing with that.
A cousin of mine gets locked up.
He's like my brother.
I go to see him in Rikers Island.
While I'm in work with me, I go to see him on Rikers Out.
Are you not allowed to do that?
I had done it two or three times before.
As long as you don't get in trouble, it's not like I didn't see an issue with it.
I'm really just going to see him.
As long as you don't get caught.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, as long as you don't get caught going to see him, which, what am I?
To me, what would I get caught doing?
I'm like, I'm just going to see him.
Right.
It's during my timeout, I'm just going to see him.
I go to see him.
we sat down
CEO comes out the back
and they found
a balala drugs
that was on the floor
right
they go back
and I don't even know
what the hell happened
they go back
we're sitting down
three minutes
they say you two
get up
I was with his wife
they're like
I'm gonna get me
in the office
and like
oh you came to passing drugs
I didn't pass
nobody no drugs
I don't know what y'all
talking about
the camera's here
get the footage
like
I'm gonna work with this
they let her go
lock me up I fight that case for 16 months I'm telling for 16 months like you'll just get the
cameras just get the camera just get the camera just get the camera I want to fighting it I want to
beating it because I didn't do it right um case gets dismiss and seal but I'm in rikers this whole
time because I'm still a state inmate I don't have no bond again it sent me up north because
you're still on that I'm still on that six flat bit send me up north I'm real close on my
CR I beat the ticket so they didn't take away no good time and sort of
I beat the ticket a week later I'm home less than a week later I'm home they let me
home I come home I'm on five years per row now so from the six flat right I'm on five
these per row so I come home thinking I'm broke for a minute you know what let me
double and dabble doing whatever yeah um no I'm lying when I first came home
my cousin used to play for the Green Bay Packers
I started doing sports marketing with him
on some I don't even know how this happened
I went out there to visit him because I wasn't doing nothing else at home
I went out there to visit him sports marketing this lady
named Stacy she wound up like taking a liking to me
she's like yo do you want a job and I was like no I don't want him
or do you want a job I don't want a job I don't want a job because that's my
because he's like my best friend but I call him my cousin I want
I don't like that nepotism fable to him stuff I get that
So she wanted to get him to ask me, like,
yo, why don't you take the job?
There's nothing to do with me.
You'd be good at the job.
I wanted to be doing real good at the job.
And for one reason, another, the firm closed down, I came home.
So now I'm doing fairly well for myself money-wise.
Now, after the sports marketing.
But I have to figure something else out.
Like, what am I doing now?
Like, I'm just sitting home.
My brain gets to working.
You know what?
Let me double and dabble.
Right.
So I start dabbling, dabbling, doing what I got to do, all the time, staying low, staying out the way, it's making my moves.
I'm doing better and better.
I'm working.
I have a job that I'm doing stuff for cars.
So I'm doing that, and I'm doing whatever on the side.
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I'm still on parole now.
Parole comes to my house.
I got like six months, five months left on parole.
from doing the whole five years.
The only violation I had was for ride on my dirt bike.
That's it.
They come to my house because I had friends that were upstate
and I had sent them food packages.
So I sent them food packages.
There was nothing illegal in the packages.
It was pictures, food, sneakers, money, magazines.
And I'm a person I don't like pictures.
I was raised by my father who was from the 80s.
you wouldn't. Don't take no pictures, though. Leave me out of pictures, leave me out of videos,
leave me out all that shit. And they want to find in, uh, parole came to my door,
knocked on my door because the sergeant at the facility sent the pictures of me and
Miami for my birthday a year prior to him. I have a gold chain on, I have watch on,
and they show up in my house. I was standing on a, on a couch and live with ticket tape,
you know, little white ticket tapes. The sergeant said they looked like coat bags.
so he sent them to my parole officer
my pro officer comes to my house
knocks on the door I let him in
you guys want coffee
it was like it was a
four of them
guys want coffee
it was like now put your hands behind your back
for well
so it's a normal home bridge
I said this ain't a normal homeowner
I've been on parole five years
like what do we do
you don't send four people to
yeah four people don't show up
four people's never been in my eye
right
okay
I have forgot that I left some drugs
on my count
in a black
in a tupperware
in a black plastic bag
that I never keep no drugs in my house
usually I take it to where I got to go
the night before and I don't never go to sleep
at the time with drugs in my house ever
so
they find it
okay let's go down
lock me up they lock me and my girl up
let's go down
they said it was cocaine
okay
by the time I got to court
now it was heroin
So they made a lot of mistakes, but they didn't want to let it go.
I wound up getting four flat for that.
How old are you by this point?
By this point, this is 2014.
So I'm 32.
Okay.
Right before my, right before I turn 32.
I go.
do my time
well I had a violation first
time served 90
I came on I'm fighting it I'm fighting
I'm like I'm taking it to trial
in order to get my girl out of trouble
at the time I told them listen I'll take a plea
you know I'm gonna beat it at trial
I'm gonna take a plea but you have to dismiss
and seal the case against my girlfriend
that's the only way I'm taking the plea
so if it doesn't start there we're going
to trial they want to dismissing and sale
on her case and giving me four flat
I stayed home
like another almost two years
before I actually did the time.
I was out on beer.
So I just kept having my lawyer.
You push it back.
Oh, okay.
So maybe it was crowded or something.
I'm not ready to go.
I'm not ready to go.
You got to pay law.
You could like kind of,
I need to set stuff up.
And as long as you're doing,
you're not getting in no trouble outside.
They know you're going to do the time anyway.
So I go in.
I get full flat.
Now, this is the time when they had just changed the shock laws.
In New York, you can go to shock.
At first, it was.
You had to be three, you had to be under 35 years old.
You had to have three years or under to your conditional release date.
And they send you to the shock program.
You heard of shock program?
It's like a, like a boot camp.
Yeah.
So they changed it to the age is now like 50.
And you can be, you can have felonies prior and you can have done state time prior, which it was never like that.
They just was certain, like violent a lot.
Most violent families, they don't accept.
They have to be nonviolent, certain this, certain that.
I qualify.
I go to Gawanda first because I had to do a few more months before I was eligible time on.
I go to Gawanda first, then I go to shock.
Shock changed my life.
I never, ever want to be spoken to in my mind that I never ever want to go through this again.
I never want to be spoken to like this again.
The stuff they put you through up there is, I'm talking about.
in about 30 second showers for the first
two and a half months, three months,
and you have to share shot with somebody?
Eight minutes to eat.
Eight minutes to get ready in the morning.
And this is 45, 50 people in the dorm.
Everybody has to be ready in under eight minutes.
And that's getting dressed to whatever outfit of the day
is so you can go to PT.
That's getting your cube inspection ready.
Everything has to be the way it's supposed to.
I never wanted to go to that ever.
So I said, listen, I don't know what I'm going to do when I get home,
but I know what I'm not going to do when I get home.
If I figured that out, I could figure something else out.
So that was my whole mentality, the whole time in shock.
Like, you have clearings every Saturday,
and you would sit in a circle,
and the council would come in every Saturday night,
and they would ask you how you're feeling.
From, it's six months.
Once you get into a platoon, it's six months.
The whole six months, every single clearing,
my clearing was the same.
How you doing?
My name is, uh, it may Pizarre,
And I'm feeling miserable
That by the end
The council was like listen
You've been here in six months
And you're still miserable
You're about to go home in two weeks
I used to miserable
I said I need this misery
Because I don't never want to feel like this again
I don't want to forget how this feels
When I go on the outside
So I need to be miserable
It's not a bad miserable
It's a for all intents of purposes
A good miserable because I'm never going to forget this
Never going to forget this
I mean
You have to run
You ran 10 miles a week
No more
We ran 667 miles
In the six months
That I was there
We was a running
Patoon
We was in the hardest
Patoon on the compound
I mean
They put you do some shit
So
I did that
I graduated
I did well
Didn't get in no trouble
In there
And I'm not the type
To get in trouble
Anyway
I don't have a problem
With authority
I come home
And I'm like
I don't know
What I'm gonna do
But I know
What I'm not gonna do
And I want to be in a garbage man
Private sanitation
making dirt money.
I was making $17 an hour.
This is in 2018.
$17 an hour.
And I got the job because the guy before we died,
he got crushed with a container
because the driver's an asshole.
Yeah, it's crazy.
You work 14 to 16 hours
and they're trying to hurry up
and get the route done.
So you're imagine garbage trucks
going over the dirt
and it's two, three in the morning.
There's no cars.
I'm going over the dividers,
whether it's raining, whether it's snow,
whatever it is.
and a really good friend of mine
whose dad is a really good friend of mine as well
Italian guy
I was always respected by a lot of the Italian
people from Staten Island
because I went about my
whatever I had to do I went about it myself
you couldn't tell what I did
unless you know what I did
super respectable
I'm super humble everything
so he sees me on the back of the
and he works in construction there
he does a he's a machine operator
he'd been at for like 15 years or whatever the kitchen maybe so he sees me on the back of the truck
one night and he's like nephew you working still and I'm like yeah my idea I've been home like
three months then and he had told his son like yo he ain't gonna last he's too used to getting a lot
of money he's not going to last for that shit three months later he sold me on the back of the
truck it was pouring that night and I say yeah well he was going to work
month and a half later, he saw me again, it was freezing outside. It was snowing, hailing.
I'm on the back of the truck. Doing my thing. He called me up the next day and he was like,
don't go back to work. I'm like, well? He's like, I got you a job. I got you into a union.
You got a raise. I'm like, what? So at the time, I'm making $17,000 an hour.
Right. So what did you? We're talking for like 15 minutes, 20 minutes. I'm like, you didn't have to do that.
He's like, no, I've seen that you're not going back to it. Because you could have been
stop doing this shit and just want to start getting money.
I said, how much am I making?
It was 48, 28, 28.
All right, now we're doing something.
So we got a union.
What's the union for?
What are you doing?
10.
I was working in asphalt and concrete.
I was doing the asphalt on the streets.
Okay.
Where they rip up a couple of inches of the streets.
Yeah.
So I started doing that.
And then I got in good in that because I'm not.
learn how to work the machine, the small machine that actually rips the street up.
So I'm going there busting my eyes, working my eyes, so COVID hits.
What am I going to do now?
Working there for a little bit, it slowed down a lot.
So you know what?
My credits have very decent.
I got a little bit of money.
Let me go rent some cards.
I got two cars and I started renting them out.
Started making a nice amount of money doing that, a nice amount of money.
And I'm figuring my way
So from two cars
I went to four cars
And I had a couple of other friends cars
You know what
If you want you can rent these out two
We'll make it
So I'm doing my thing
In the interim
I'm doing property management
My cousin asked me if I wanted
If I wanted to be a property manager
So I do that
We wind up
I started with his house in Jersey
When I used to play football
I started with his house in Jersey
He lived in Englewood Cliffs
He had a mansion in Engwood Cliffs
So I managed that for like a year
then
he bought land
in Tulum, Mexico
with two other partners
and he built a compound on it
so he hits me one day
he's like, yo I need a favor
so you want to move to Tulum?
I'm like
yeah, why not? What do you need?
He's like, I want you to oversee the construction of the house.
By this time I'm off parole.
I got off parole in 2019. I maxed out.
So I went to Toulon
vacation because he was out there already
when he came back a few months later
that's when he asked me like oh do you want to
I'm like yeah why not I go do it
and I moved to Toulon for almost three months
I saw the construction house from
when it was
the foundation wasn't even there
until they started pulling the
the ceilings
because everything is concrete out there
yeah
4,800 square feet huge pool
it's a compound
probably worth black
maybe a little over $3 million right now
we were going to do that
and then get some more land.
It was for Jiu-Jitsu.
They were going to do like seminars for like famous Jiu-Jitsu instructors go out there, rent the house.
We were going to do one bed, one-and-two bedroom Airbnbs on it and do like a, they do the Jiu-Jitsu retreats and all that.
So that was what it was gearing towards, but they had to do the main house first.
I come back home.
I started a concierge service with a partner amount.
So we're doing black car pickup.
I bought two escalades
And now we're doing black car pickups
So everything's picking up for me
Little by little I'm doing super well
I don't have a care or worry in the world
At the same time
Cannabis is about to start being legal
They just legalize it
They talk about
Giving the licenses and stuff
So I'm always thinking
I'm always working on you know what I'm going to open up
And a smoker's lounge
But it's 420 friendly
I wanted to model it after the Italian
cigar balls in Staten Island.
So I get that up and going.
In the interim, a friend of mine that I see every day.
He comes, he wakes up, he comes over my house in the morning after he drops his daughter off.
We smoke a blunt.
We play the game.
We played Madden or zombies or whatever.
And once he leaves for the day, he leaves for the day.
He has a house.
He has his own house.
He has his own family.
He gets into it one night with his wife.
It calls me up.
It's like one in the morning, probably 12 something.
And had a penthouse apartment on Staten Island at the time.
And he's like, yo, I can't do it no more.
So now I said, come over, smoke a blunt.
Let me worry about him.
He had got into a fight with her and she disrespected him by and put her hands on him
in front of his daughter and all that in front of our family that was at the house.
He's like, y'all just can't do it no more.
So I'm like, you know what?
Were you going to stay tonight?
He's like, I don't even know.
home. I said, look, stay here. I go stay at a girl. I had two-bedroom apartment. I said, stay here.
One of the bedrooms didn't have anything in it. I come back the next day. Are you figured out what
you going to do yet? Nah, I said, well, until you, because he had just bought a house in Jersey,
until you figure out what you're going to do and get on your feet, put a bedroom in an extra
bedroom, and you can stay here. I'm never here. I'm between, at the time I'm going to L.A.,
I'm in New York. I'm never home.
And it helps me out too
Because I have a dog
He can watch a dog
All right
He stays there for a couple months
At that same time
I had gotten the house
At this incident
That we're leading up to Apple
When I get the house
I had rented that house before
Funny enough
That's the house that I got locked up in
When I got caught in 2014
Okay
The landlord called me
And offered it to me again
Because I was only there
for like two months when I got locked up in 2014.
And I absolutely loved that outfit.
So when he offered it to me again, I said, absolutely.
I was going to rent that house for a year and then buy a house in Jersey.
So I said, absolutely.
So I get it.
And what I do when I get houses, apartments, everything, I do everything the way I want it
before I move in, before I put the furniture in.
I paint, run wires through the walls.
Whatever you're going to do, get it in there now, and let's get it out the way.
So I do that for a couple months.
And then a friend of mine who's a boxer used it for training kit.
He fought him in Tyson Fury on the card that year.
He moved out.
I moved in.
At the same time that I move in, I tell him, like, listen, it's a three-bedroom house.
I know I'm not going to be stuck with you.
If you want, come stay at the crib, put it, what I'm saying?
It's three bedrooms.
And work it out.
I'm never home, bro.
He comes over there.
So he's staying at the house for maybe two months, a little over two and a half months.
when this incident happened.
So I'm asleep one night.
I still play basketball.
So I had went, I played basketball, and I blew my knee out.
I went to, I had to do something in L.A.
I went to L.A.
I came back because I had to get an MRI red.
The specialist is only there on Mondays.
That Monday that I came back was Martin Luther King that he wasn't there.
So I had to wait until the following Monday.
So you know what?
I'm not going to fly back to L.A. to fly back.
I'll just wait until I get the MRI red and fly back.
It's a Wednesday
And I have a real estate meeting in Philadelphia
I have my driver
Because now I have a concierge service
So
And my driver pick me up
I'm still on crutches
I'm just started using the king
And my driver picked me up
We're going to Philly
I'm supposed to spend the night in Philly
My sister calls me up
She's like, um can you pick up your niece
I'm on the turnpike I just left
I'm like 30 minutes to wait and stand out
She's like can your sister
Can you pick up your niece
I said, yeah, what happened?
She's like, my father just passed away.
And Mike assaulted her.
He's one of the greatest guys ever when he was in the hospital.
And I'm like, I'm turning around right now.
She's like, where are you at?
So I'm going to turn around.
I'll be there in 40 minutes.
I'm like, no, I need somebody to pick her up right now.
Where are you going?
So I was going to Philly.
I got to really see me.
She's like, no, I'm going to get somebody to pick her up.
I have your mother pick up something.
I said, right, so I'm going to go to Philly.
But I'm not going to stay the night.
I'm going to come back.
I do whatever I got to do in Philly.
Come back. I go to her house.
Stayed a couple hours. Pay my condolences.
I cry it out. Everything.
I have my driver taking me back to my house.
The house, not the penthouse, the house.
I grab $20,000 and I go to Fandu in Jersey.
I'm at Fanduil until about 12 o'clock, like 12.15.
I hit them for like $11,000 and change.
Good night.
Casino? What's...
Oh, a sports betting.
Oh, okay.
So it's a good night.
I hit them for a little bit of breath.
Okay, come back.
I make it home a little after one.
Upstairs, my driver's like, you need me tomorrow.
I said, I don't know, I'll let you know in the morning.
Walk in my house.
I let my dogs out.
My older dog and I had a puppy at the time.
Let them out.
I roll a blunt.
They come back in.
The puppy peas on the floor.
I put them in the cage.
Me and the older dog go upstairs.
It's about.
Two in the morning now. I'm on my phone. I hit a girl. I was going to go over a house.
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My dog wakes me up.
He sleeps in the bed.
He wakes me up.
But he's not growling.
And anytime anybody comes by the door, by the house, anything, he barks.
He don't like anybody coming by the house.
He's super over-protected.
But he's not barking.
He's growling.
So I think maybe he just heard.
I'm like, let's what the fuck up.
We're back to sleep.
And I lay my head back on the pillow and he starts growling more aggressively.
What the fuck is the woman tree?
And my first floor is tired.
my steps and my second floor is hardwood.
So now I hear people coming in my house,
like walking up the steps in my house,
a group of people.
What the fuck?
Andre,
I know my friend is there
and his daughter had stayed the night
because he was taking the school in the moment.
So I'm like, maybe I'm bugging.
But it sounds like a group of people
trying to be quiet, heavy feet.
In my mind, I'm not doing nothing in the streets.
I haven't done anything in the streets in a while.
So why would it be?
It was never entered my mind
that was police ever no way
no way
right
so I grab a gun
I go to the door
and I put my ear to the door
they start whispering on the other side of the door
no no it's not this door it's that door hit that door
so I cocked the gun loud enough for them to hear it
loud as hell
and he starts shooting through my door
I shoot back
I get hit
What was that like?
Like, I mean, when you hear the first shots, you know immediately,
I mean, it's guns are loud.
And it wasn't, it was five people up there.
So it wasn't like it was one shot and then wait and no.
It was like call of duty.
Like I went from sleep to, and I'm still sleeping.
This is 30 seconds.
From the time they came in my door to the time that they carried the cop,
I was 1203 seconds.
They got to take a couple of seconds to get upstairs.
And I'm still on crutch.
I'm lipping around.
I got to blow my knee out, ACL, MCL, PCL, and LCL.
My knee is no good.
So I'm limping to the door.
So it takes, this is 30 seconds after I wake up.
I grabbed the gun from where it was at in my, in my bed.
I grabbed the click from right on top of the, of a war unit that's right by the door.
And I put it in.
I'm listening.
They start shooting.
So I start shooting back.
Monji, nobody's saying anything.
Nobody's saying anything.
I got hit with an.
first couple shots spun me and sat me down and I slid across the door so now I start shooting
over my shoulder I'm laying on the floor my back and still just shooting with my shoulder still don't
know what the fuck is going on in like I'm out of bullets I only have five rounds I get up and I go
into my bathroom so when I look down my mind's my ethical drawers socks and a t-shirt I looked down
and there's blood pouring down my leg I got hit in the right in the front of my groin area and it came out
the back of my thigh.
So now I'm trying to process like,
what the fuck is going on?
They're still shooting through the goal.
What the fuck is going on?
I told myself, you're going to die today.
Today's your day.
They're not coming in here to help you out.
Today's your day.
Does anybody scream police?
Nobody has said anything yet.
Try to jump on them.
All this has happened in simultaneously, fast.
In my mind, I'm like, I try to jump on them,
do something when they come in the door.
So I'm walking back out my bedroom,
the bathroom is in my bedroom.
I'm walking back out the bathroom
and they stopped shooting.
And I hear, officer down, officer down.
I said, what the fuck?
Officer down.
So instead of going to the door,
I went to the window, which is opposite of the door.
And there's blood of my blind
so when I looked out of the blind.
I seen the cops outside.
I went and I sat on the foot of my bed
and I put my hands up.
I said, I'm sorry.
I said, I'm on that I'm hit.
I'm on that I'm hit.
He said, come to the door open the door.
I said, I'm not coming to that door.
but I'm on that I'm hit.
They said, come to the door,
open the fucking door right now,
put your hands out.
Go to the door and went to the door,
open the door, open my hands.
I stepped in the hallway.
The first words out of my mouth
when that door got opened.
Mind you, this all happened
about how to close bedroom door
was, I'm sorry,
I thought I was getting robbed.
Is the cop okay?
I asked if the cop was okay
from the time that I opened that door
all the way until I got to the hospital.
I was in the hospital.
I was still acting about him.
I didn't ask,
am I going to die?
I've never been shot before.
I never asked, am I going to die?
Get me a hand.
ambulance. I didn't ask for anything else except for is the cop okay.
I went from thinking I was going to die to wishing I was dead once I hurt that it was police.
I get to the hospital. I go through the process of the hospital. I get to court.
No bail obviously. I was in the hospital two days. It went in and out. He's had to stop the bleeding.
I would court. No bail. Now I'm still trying to piece together.
what the fuck is going on.
Yeah, why were the police in your house?
So I wind up, when I got to Rikers, they put me in the same house as my men, a homeboy that was staying with me.
Right.
There was a, uh, there was a warrant out for him because he had a sealed indictment for seven sales that he made to undercover, allegedly.
Okay.
And they applied for the warrant for no knock.
warrants because they thought that the house was his they never mentioned me in the warrant
they never mentioned me in the application to the warrant to the judge like listen there was never
no drugs sold out of my house there was never no drugs found in my house ever in the warrant
and have the application for the one in the warrant they said he is we need a no knock wrong because
cocaine could be easily disposed of and drug dealers usually keep drugs in place that they can control
and that's where he lives, so that's where he can control.
That's why they got the no knock on it.
Nobody never said they saw drugs in the house.
Nobody never said that there was drugs in the house.
There was no drugs found in the house.
There was no sales made out of the house.
They said he went to a sale one time from,
he got a phone call to make a sale.
He left the house one time, went to a sale,
and then went and did whatever.
And on another occasion, he made the sale and then went back to the house.
But there was seven sales.
That was the only two times that he went back to the house.
Where he went to the other five times?
Where did he went to go to five times?
he wasn't selling drugs out of my house and dispose of what it's not evidence of a crime because he's
already indicted right he's already indicted pending arrest he's already indicted so it's not like
you need the evidence that you're trying to get with a no-knock warrant to further your his case he's
already indicted so how can you get on top of that five cops no body camera aren't they required
to have body cameras i know as of july after the bionna taylor stuff as of july of 2021 they're supposed
to wear body cameras at all times on any no-knock warrant.
The only thing that, and any warrant execute a period.
The only thing that's exempt from that is body searches, cavity search.
That's the only search that's exempt from having a body camera on.
So I'm in jail now.
I'm figuring all this shit out.
I don't even know about the castle doctrine where you're allowed to protect your home
with Delhi Force in New York.
There's only two places in New York where you don't have to retreat.
You have the duty to retreat in New York.
It's not like Florida.
You guys got to stay in your ground.
Right.
As soon as you feel threatened, you can stay in your ground.
In New York, you have the duty to retreat.
You have to try to get out of that situation before anything else escalates.
The only two places that are exempt to that are your place of business and your home in New York.
That's it.
There's no self-defense.
There's no on none.
It's called a castle doctrine.
Okay.
So I'm in jail.
I got no bail.
I got a high-priced lawyer named Lance Azaro
And I'm calling around a bunch of lawyers
And they're all telling me now
You're not getting no bill
You're bugging out
A cop got shot this scene
You shot him
You're not getting no bail
Get comfortable
You know
Lance is like
He was the only one
I was like yeah
I can get you a beer
I said you sure
He's like yeah
This is right around a bail reform
Had just dropped
She's like I can get you a bill
He went to court
He tried to give me a bill
For my regular judge
The judge is not him
He's screaming at them
Turning red
He's like this is bullshit
shit, he's like, don't wear him to get you a bill.
He goes to the appellate division.
I get my bail to be appellate division, but they made my bail $5 million with house arrest.
At that time, it's the highest bill ever ever made ever made in the state, not the feds.
And the feds didn't get it lowered?
No, they denied, they denied getting it lowered.
I bailed that on a $5 million a bill.
What is that lost?
I had to give the courts because I went through partially.
secured bond, so I get the money back.
So I had to give
them $500,000 liquid
and prove where it came from.
Then I had to give them $4.5 million
in equity in property.
Whoa.
So it costing me $500,000,
and I had six signatures.
Okay.
So I'm fighting it, fighting it, fighting
it. And then
I'm like, I'm going to trial.
Like this.
I'm so,
big on accountability. If I did something wrong, punish me for what I did. I'm totally okay
with you punish me for what I did, but don't punish me for something that I didn't do and try to
make me out to be a monster. I give back. Like, I just did a turkey drive 320 turkeys. The Thanksgiving
before this happened. It's happened January 20th of 2020. Thanksgiving before the 320 turkeys are my own
pocket. And I don't advertise it, promote it, because I don't care. I don't look for the accolades.
I do it because even now I came home. I came home on an angle monitor. I did.
a back-to-school on the giveaway. August of 23, 500 book bags, full of supplies, four
notebooks, a packet and you see two-folders, pens, pads, pencils. We did free food all day.
I had 13 raffles, four laptops, four tablets, wireless headphones, a 55-inch TV, a couple of gift cards,
$250 gift cards
free face paint for the kids
free haircuts for the kids all day
everything was free
I was free I was something to when we get over
and I don't do it to promote
I didn't promote it like look at what I'm doing
like I do it because I like to give back
that's what I like to do
that's my thing so I came home
fighting it
I'm like I'm going to go to trial
so what's the gonna do you're gonna give me
15 years for the gun I can go to shock with that
I'll be in shock I'll be home like five years
six years
I go to trial
I go to pick a jury
the day I went to pick a jury
they said listen
you got to open over
for you
18 or 16 to 20
the judge
well the judge
and the DA
have an open open for you
16 to 20
the judge will probably
give you 18 or 19
and you cop out
to attempt the murder
on police
I said no I'm not taking it
so what's the worst
that's going to happen
they're going to give me 15 for the gun
if I blow to anything else
they'll run a concurring
why would I take
18 and I know I'm going to
beat the shooting. Right.
Okay. You go inside.
I'm going to court room. They tell the judge
he doesn't want to take it. The judge goes, why he don't want to take it?
It's like because he's going to beat the shooting.
The judge says, oh,
he's probably going to beat the shooting. Even if he beats the shooting, I'm going to
max him on a gun. And he has a 54 kind of indictment.
Anything else he blows to, I'm going to max him on that and run a
consecutive. So he should take the plea because he'll kick a
got out of it with 30 years and I'm going to try to put life on the back.
So right there in my mind it told me like, I didn't expect the judge to be lenient,
but I expected him to be fair.
Right.
I went through this trial and you see that I didn't know they were police.
I thought I was going to die that moment.
I take that into account.
And like I said, I'm not saying get off Scott Free or show me favoritism.
Just be fair.
No.
So to me, when I heard that, he doesn't care if I'm the one that shot the cop or not.
Because I'm not even the one that shot him.
A cop got hit in his cab.
they had to have shot him
because it went through his calf sideways
but he said he was facing my door
with a shield
and they didn't say officer down
until I had already stopped shooting
I was been stopped shooting
I'm in my bathroom trying to figure out
what the hell is going on
how many times did they shoot through the door
48
48 times
they found 48 shell cations
on the outside of my door
and I showed you the picture of the door
so you know it's not bullshit
right
So, in all this, my thing is, I know the cop.
I rode motorcycles with him.
There's something before this happened.
I bought him lunch.
Right.
So why would you, like, be a man about it.
Like, I wasn't doing anything wrong.
I got to see if I was in the street menacing or.
So I'm in court.
Then he goes, listen, they got it down a 16 flat and I didn't have to cop out to
nothing that had to do with police.
I copped out to a regular attempted murder.
So they made him a regular
person.
Okay.
Coped out to the attempted murder of his name.
And that was a 54 count of diamond.
That's the only thing I coped out to when I got 16 flat.
Because they won't let me fight it.
And the same judge that signed the warrant is my trial judge.
Oh, that seems like a conflict of interest.
He shouldn't have signed the warrant to begin with.
But they don't, what I think happened,
think they don't want all that to go into the media,
them not have, especially with the temperature stuff right now,
them not having body cameras, me not being on the rowing.
If I would have died, it would have been something totally different.
Everybody would be rioting and protesting,
Breonna Taylor, this, that, the third.
But because I lived, now it's basically their word against minds.
And they're not, you don't see it in the paper all the time.
There's never been a cop in my court date.
You spit on a cop up here.
And they're in the courtroom every day with supporting,
For, there's never been a cop in my court date.
And I don't have no problem with authority.
I have friends that are detectives that still check on me to this day, like, you're all right?
That if I'm, if I text them, well, what you're doing?
You're going to work.
I'm going to be careful with the streets is nasty out there.
Like, I'm, I'm under the same impression as a judge.
Somebody normally shoots up police.
They deserve to be in jail.
Right.
What are we talking about here?
Like, but that's not the case with me.
What do you think the judge, I mean, I don't understand why is the judge, why is he so adamant when he knows you, he knows you didn't shoot him on purpose.
If you shot him at all, he knows that they were in your house.
They weren't saying, or are they saying different?
Oh, no, we said police.
They said that they announced himself.
Well, first, the first reports were that I ran to the door, opened the door, seen it was them, closed my bedroom door, and then started shooting through the door.
That was the initial report.
Then it got, because I got shot in the same leg that my knee was blown out.
Then they found out that my knee was fucked up and I couldn't run.
So then it went from that to, oh no, we announced ourselves.
The house is a two family split in the middle.
So on the upstairs level is my bedroom, a bathroom outside of my bedroom.
My bedroom has a bathroom inside of it also.
But outside of my bedroom is my bedroom, a bathroom.
On the other side of the hole, it's a bedroom.
and another bedroom that faces my door.
So on the other side, it's a mirror image of that house
because, you know, our two claims are split in the middle.
So there's a, my neighbor's a Chinese family.
I don't know the kid.
I don't know, I don't know the high and by.
I'm super cordial.
I don't have no problem with nobody.
He, right after the shooting, the police took him to investigate,
took him down, questioned him, and they asked him,
well, what did you hear? He said, I heard two bangs that sounded like gunshots. So I get up.
He's in the back bedroom in the back of the house, which is adjacent to the bedroom of my friend.
He said he walked through the hallway up to the front bedroom, which is adjacent to my bedroom, his parents' bedroom, and he looked out the window, and he saw it was cops.
That's how, there was cops outside. That's how he knew it was cops. And then the shooting started.
They asked him specifically, did you hear any talking or yelling?
anything he said no I didn't hear anything so you heard them hit the door why wouldn't you hear
them screaming police like they're saying oh we were screaming police NYPD they never said anything
and on top of that what am I what am I shooting at a cop for right I'm not doing anything wrong
there's no drugs in my house I'm not in the street no more it's not like I got 50 kilos in here
that I'm trying to protect and I'm going to get life.
Where's you going to get is a pistol in my house that I'm using to protect my house.
Like I said, I'm big on accountability.
The last time police came in my house, I opened the door for them and ask them what they want to call for you.
It just doesn't make any sense.
What motive do I have to shoot it, knowing that they're police?
But the judge doesn't care.
Nobody cares.
Nobody cares.
That's what I'm doing, those black guys, isn't it?
So you get the plea down to 16 years.
15 flat with five years post release.
So 16 years with pro and probation after that.
Poloian.
What do you guys call it post release?
In New York is post release supervision.
They worded like that for purposes of time because before, when it was parole,
if you come home and you get locked up and you're inside fighting your parole,
whatever the case may be,
and let's say they give you a 90 days or a year violation that year
could count toward your parole that's why they were to be post release
your feet have to be in the street for it to count so you need to have five years
or feet in the street but they cut it short if you get if you don't give them no violations
they give you a merit termination that's why I got on my last one at three years
post and I got off in no I have five years in my last one and I got off in a year
so did you sign have you signed for it or you took the deal i took the deal i had to i had to
they said as soon as you bringing this first juror the deal's up the table and i can't beat the judge
if the d would have said that i would have still went to trial right but if the judge himself
was deciding on what time i get i can't beat him right i can't beat him um um uh so but you're out now
How long did you sign for?
How long ago was this?
August 26th.
And you're still out.
What are you, did you,
have you kind of like put it off or?
No, so once you cop out,
they have to do a probation report.
They have to do a couple of stuff
and they give you a couple months
to get your affairs in order.
Like I saw a doctor's appointment.
I have a doctor's appointment coming up in January.
I have court in December,
but I have a doctor's appointment in January.
So I'm to see if they can push it back
talking about my doctor's appointment
because I still want to see my surgeon
because I have to get the surgery on my leg
when I came on.
I touched you in my shoulder when I came on.
So I want to get all that taken care of because I'm going to be up there for 10 more years.
Yeah, do you get, you're saying, you keep saying 16 years flat.
You don't have any good time?
Yeah, so I took 16 flat.
Out of 16, you do 13.
You do 160 months.
Out of that, I've been on house.
I did a year in before I built out.
And then I've been on house arrest for two years.
So that's 36 months less.
So I have to do 124 months.
So I got to do 10 years.
Okay.
Who's going to take care of your dog?
My sister, who took him when I got locked up last time.
She didn't want to raise him.
I had him when he was five months.
And then she had him for the whole 11.5 months that I was gone.
Did you sell?
Are you selling your properties?
Are you?
No, those are my cousin's properties.
I was just married you went.
So I got shot.
And my other dog that I had got shot and he died.
The bulldog that I rescued
What is your buddy saying about all this?
The one you said you ended up
He was like, holy shit, or was he?
When he came out the room, I'm on the floor already handcuffed
When they took him out the room
He came out of the room and he's like,
yo, they just started shooting.
Those are the first words out of his mouth
because they was walking him down in step.
And what else can he say?
Sorry.
I don't blame him because he didn't do anything
in my house.
house. And it's on paperwork that he never sold drugs out of my house. When I say they ransacked
that house because they were trying to look for things to try to tie me to any type of drug
involvement, anything, there was nothing in the house. But they, they violated that house. I'm
talking about broke walls down, floors, ceilings, every vent pulled every vent out. They was looking
for anything, for anything. Took all my jewelry, didn't voucher none of my jewelry, took money,
Then they only voucher $87,000 of money that I had an hour.
They just, they just do what they want.
Yeah, I, so I had a guy I knew locked up in prison.
His name was, his last name was Junior.
It was, they called him Junior.
He was in Atlanta, and he was a part of a drug kind of,
it's really not a task force, but like a group of guys, right?
Mm-hmm.
And they were big on no-knock warrants.
And the way they would get the no-knock warrant is they had actually had CIs that were certified C-I's.
So this is the C-I that has helped us in the past get convictions.
So his word is certified.
It's good.
It's gold.
Right.
Right.
So they go to him.
So here's what happens is they would, and Junior did this for 10 years.
So they would pull people over.
They search your car and they'd find $40,000, whatever.
And they'd just take it from you.
They're like, you're a drug dealer.
I'm just going to take it from you.
And they don't even had it.
That's what they're going to say.
Who's the same thing you even had it?
Right.
Right.
And so, of course, what he said was a lot of times, like you'd find like half a key or something
and, you know, 20 grand.
And they'd be like, look, you know, here's what we can do.
Because they'll convert the cash to drugs.
Mm-hmm.
So now suddenly, you.
you have you didn't get caught with half a key you got caught with two keys because
we don't convert the cash the drugs you got caught with two keys you're getting 20 years or we can
take the cash we can turn in the key you'll get five years as long as you don't mention the cash
yeah you want to go on it's like yeah you want to get five years you want to get 20
you're not getting it back it's gone either way and they they they but if you fucking say that
we took the cash you know what i'm saying like it's going to be a problem oh no no no no take it take it
like these guys be like take it so they take it and they would also like one time he said they got
they busted somebody pulled somebody over um he has a key they start where's the money where's the money
where's the money and and they're like it so basically they're they're like they eventually
figure out where he lives go to his house on a no knock warrant go inside the house find a couple
a couple hundred grand or hundred grand whatever it is take the fucking money and then say i didn't we
didn't find nothing so we only got him for a key or a half key quarter kit whatever it is so he was
saying that like oh we were rob him you know he was like we were rob people for 10 years 10 years
so here's what happens is one day they pull somebody over they grab the guy and they're like
where did you get the drugs from he's got like a fucking half a key or something a key whatever they're like
where'd you get it and the guy says you know if i tell you where i
I got it. Can you let me go?
You tell us where you got it.
We're going to take the drugs, but you can walk.
And he goes, okay, here's the address.
Gives them the ad, you know, 3017, you know, North 14th Street, whatever.
Okay.
And so they then go to the certified CI and they say, we need you to sign this saying,
you've bought drugs from this house.
He signs it.
They then take that and they go to the judge.
They boom, this guy's bought drugs a bunch of time.
He's a certified CI.
You've signed off on him before.
He just bought some drugs.
They have the drugs.
And the judge says, okay, no problem.
They sign it.
He signs it.
Got it.
Rubber stamp it.
Yeah.
So 11 o'clock at night, they go to the house.
This is in Atlanta.
Go to the house, bad neighborhood.
They go to the front door.
They pry open the front door.
So it takes some time.
You can hear them, bam, bam, bam, you know,
cutting open the front door and and they're and then they kick in the front door and as they
enter the front of the house they hear you know somebody shoots him bam bam bam was like three
shots and they just a junior unloads on them um it was a 70 year old retired school teacher
who woke up to hearing you know
Bam, bam, the front door.
She grabbed, rolled over, grabbed her a little 22 or 38, whatever,
so small, walked in the hallway, the shotgun house.
You know, the hallway starts at the front door all the way that.
She leans out to her.
Stop.
Do you know how fast you were going?
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On our window, she sees guys rushing in.
She fires, starts firing, and Junior unloaded it on her, killed her.
Okay.
So, you know, when.
And by the time the cops show up, they've said, they've come up their story.
She's a drug dealer.
She's selling drugs.
Drugs are being sold out of this house.
We already have a no-knock warrant.
We got a certified, you know, affidavit.
So they're saying all this, but Junior who goes to the hospital.
Because Junior got shot, by the way.
It hit him in the vest, but it was this part of the vest.
So it didn't hit the plate.
So it goes through his shoulder, right?
It goes, well, or at least into his shoulders.
He goes to the hospital, you know, and they stitch him up, whatever.
And he was such a fucking dirtbag, bro.
Whenever you would say something like he would, I'll tell you later, but he was such a douchebag.
Anyway, like, no remorse.
So the cops get there.
And very quickly, they're talking to the neighbors.
And the neighbors are like, she's a retired school teacher.
She doesn't sell drugs.
the family's showing up
that's my mom
what the fuck are you talking about
yeah like the neighborhood's getting crazy
yeah they're getting fucking riled up
they're ready to this is a bad neighborhood
this is a this is a
an 80% 20% Hispanic
80% black neighborhood in Atlanta
and where this was 20 years ago
where they're being brutalized
and they ain't having it bro
so there's they're you know
and of course you know
it's not like they're wrong
they're not they're not you know what I'm saying like so I get it sometimes they get upset like
oh you arrested this guy and oh you're picking on the on us but the truth is the guy's a drug dealer
like so shut up but this is a school teacher so they're trying to convince people no no she was
selling drugs and obviously juniors realizing it's unraveling it's getting ugly right
internal affairs comes in and and they realize something's wrong some of the
very wrong. It's so overwhelming within a day or two. The feds come in. And they say, no, no,
your internal affairs are not taking care of this. We think you violated this woman's rights,
her constitutional rights. We think this. And that's a very, people think, oh, okay, so what? No,
no, no. That's a serious fucking thing. They'll throw you in jail for 20 years for a violation.
So it's starting to unravel. Junior, he's been around.
knows it's unraveling.
He knows the whole thing's going to fall apart.
He knows his guys are not going to stand up.
They know the score.
Junior grabs a lawyer, goes straight to the,
because the first guy in the door is usually getting the best deal.
All the town.
He goes straight in and he says,
Junior gets three years in the state
for,
for what is it
for manslaughter
and he gets
five years
for violating her rights
he keeps all of his money
he testifies against
all of his co-defendants
he tells you what they've been doing
for 10 years
and that's the deal
and the feds go
we'll take it
like because we've got
Nobody so far is coming in.
I'm willing to lay out the case.
So he gives up, I want to say six, his six or seven partners, you know, in this little, this little drug, not task force, their little drug unit.
And he explains exactly.
Oh, by the way, by this point, it's about, I told you it's been about three, four days.
He's out of the hospital, of course.
But by this point, the newspapers are coming out.
And one of the things that's happened is that the feds grabbed the CI.
and he's talking
I don't know who that person
They showed up
They gave me an affidavit
They had it
I signed it
What am I going to do
These guys are telling me
They're going to send me to prison
I've signed bunches of them
That I've never bought drugs from
So
So
Junior
Goes in
Takes the deal
And it was so fun
This is what I'm saying
It was so funny
I would sit there
And I would
Because he would tell stories
I'd be like
dude you know this ever happened this ever happened you know i'd ask him questions periodically
and you know he would laugh about how this happened all right so what's the worst thing you
ever seen he would be like oh god or the worst thing i ever seen listen to this like everybody
told me they were chasing a guy one time um and the guy ran he was you know the bridges that go
across the the highways right the overpasses overpasses right he said so it was this guy we're
chasing him and he ends up he ends up pulling his car over and at the right there at the
just as the overpass starts and he starts running he goes and i'm chasing him he said he runs
and he jumps over the overpass because you know how it goes down on the side is thinking i'm gonna
he's gonna go down and and be able to run down there and he's like there was a neighborhood not far away
that's where he's headed he see it runs and he jumps he said now keep mind as he's running he
can see him look over and he keeps running and he looks over and he he realizes okay i'm almost to the
point where it's dipping but he keeps running and then he jumps thinking he's got a few feet to
the other side but by the time he got he had run too far and it had dropped down like 30 feet
and as he's falling you know the fences well the fences have the posts and they stick out right
sometimes right he said it was one of the older 1960 or 70s post that have a point on it
He catches him in the back of the head as he's falling and yanks his head clean off his body.
He said, I went to jump over it and he said, I jump over it and I have to grab onto the thing.
I realize it dropped because he jumped and now I'm jumping.
Yeah, you got to go after him.
Right.
And he's like, whoa, whoa.
And he's like, oh, he's like, I'm grabbing it.
He was, but I wasn't that far.
It was maybe 15 feet.
So I was able to kind of hang down and drop down.
He said, at an anger or maybe somebody pulled him up, whatever.
He said, I remember when we ran down there to find him.
he said his head is on the spike he said he said two or three of us immediately started puking
he's never seen things so horrific in my life anyway so i remember one time i was talking to him
about this whole thing and i went i said uh he was complaining because keep in mind he got
three years in the state and he was supposed to get five years in the fed they were running concurrently
so he didn't have to go to the state he stayed in the fed the whole time go to the state
he's a white cop setting up black drug dealers you can't go to the in Georgia
so he knew listen he's not he's not stupid um so what's funny about that is the state judge
even though he had a deal when it wasn't the state judge it was I want to say
was a federal judge the federal judge ended up giving him like six years or seven years a couple years
more than he was supposed to get he's like yeah he's like he's like the fucking federal judge
he blah blah you know this and this and he was supposed to give me five years and he never
give me seven and i went you did kill somebody like that and he goes old lady like i know i know
i go you did kill somebody and he goes he was she fucking shot me bro and i went you broke into her
house like I typically don't push back I don't care you want to say okay whatever I'm not
going to get an argument you shot me and I go you broke into her fucking house he's where police
officers I go she didn't know that this is you know what I'm saying and he sat there he's you don't
understand I'm thinking no no I do understand you don't get it you're still they don't
get it because they're cops but if you ask them if I was a tell like like I said I have friends
that a cop family that's cop and I tell them the story none of them nobody that I know that
knows me personally. When it happened, everybody said the same thing before even speaking to
me. Oh, he probably thought it was getting wrong. That was one of my biggest fears when I was
young when I was probably, this right before my dad got locked up. I was probably seven, eight years
old. They pushed us into our house in the morning when we was leaving for school. Tied me up,
tie my little brother, tied my mother up, tied my father up and robbed us. This from, I used to
wake up in cold sweats. You can ask my ex. Like, wake up in cold sweats, go look out the window.
lay back down and I remember what I did the night before.
Like that's how much,
that's everybody's the biggest fear.
Yeah.
And I have cops that I asked them like,
yo, what would you do?
They was like, yo, that person would be shot.
If I don't know who it is in my house,
it's 6 o'clock in the morning, it's still dark out.
I'm just waking up.
I don't even know what's going to.
That first five minutes when you wake up,
you don't know what's going on.
You're still like in your sleep state or whatever they call it.
What would you do?
Right.
what would you do
knowing what I know now
I don't know I'm not going to
I wouldn't have shot back
if I knew that it was cops
but at the time
with the information
that I had at the time
people in my house
they're not announcing themselves
I gave them ample opportunity
to announce themselves
what else is there to do
right
what else is there to do
and that's my thing
like why do I have to go
do 16 years
because I thought I was going to die
I'm not saying
I shouldn't do no time
I'm not saying that
I'm not saying that
Right
The thing is
You want to punish me
For illegal gun on house
Cool
Give me my couple years
My three four five
Whatever you're gonna do
But don't cheat me
As if I'm some animal
When what would you do
In my situation
What would you do
And this around the time
This is 2022
When everybody's house
In New York was getting broken into
It was right after COVID died down
There was no more money
Everybody's getting robbed
A friend of mine died
three weeks prior to that seven minutes away from my house
from a home invasion and he got shot.
So what am I supposed to do?
Wait, acting a figure.
They're not there to sell me health or life insurance
or girls got cookies.
6 o'clock in the morning.
They're in your house and they're not in a notch and so trying to be cute,
try to be quiet and, oh no, it's not this though,
is that, though, hit that, that, though.
What does that sound like to any normal person?
Yeah.
And now I got to go, like,
I don't have no kids, but I'm going to,
amazing uncle. You know what I'm saying? I have kids
that I have helped raise. I'm my mother's caretaker
because she's real sick now. I got to go
my family got to go
do without me for 10 years. And I have no
I don't have no violent charges ever.
My shit is always drug possession. I don't even have no sales on my
rap sheet. I don't have no assaults. I don't
have no shootings. I don't have, I'm not
a violent person
at all.
So what's my, like what's the remedy
for the situation and at the end of the day
why did you need a know not one
for what he didn't commit
a violent crime
what are you kicking even
even if it was his house which it wasn't
my name's out of the law
you didn't even tell the judge and give him an opportunity
to be like listen
we're violating this guy's rights because he didn't do
anything wrong and it's his house
but the other person is living there and he sold drugs away
from the house there's no CI on
on his case
he was selling straight to an undercover
so there's no CI that met him at the house
or seen drugs in the house
or sale was made out of the house.
No crime was committed in that house.
So how can you just come and kick my door down?
And now I got to go through 16 years
when I wasn't doing nothing wrong.
I went to sleep.
People say wrong place, wrong time.
How was it wrong place?
I was in my bed.
I wasn't out of the club and whatever.
I was in my bed sleep where I was supposed to be.
Um, yeah, this is a bad situation.
So it's like, I also understand that, you know, usually I would say like, well, you should have gone, you should have gone to trial, but you can't go to trial.
Not with the judge saying that.
Like you can't, yeah, I couldn't even justify saying, well, you should still try.
No, there's no.
The judge has already told you he's going to fuck.
He's telling you what he's going to do to you.
I have a 54 count indictment.
If I blow to three of the small charges, three of the A's or the Bs, I blow to three of the small charges, I could blow to one C and two Ds.
I'm going to, I'm getting 30 years.
right for what so we could get out of the news that they didn't have body cameras on because why didn't they have body cameras on
where is it justice for that where's the where's the repercussions for them because i'm it's not a feather in my hat that oh i got to shoot a cop like what
i don't i don't sleep well at night i could turn my camera now i don't have any door on my bedroom the only doors that are in my house
are the bathroom and my front door i cannot sleep with a door on my bedroom i can't sleep i will i will be up all night if the
the door to my bedroom is closed.
I cannot sleep.
I had to take the door off both of my bedrooms.
This isn't something that
it's going to affect me for the rest of my life.
For the rest of my life.
How old are you?
42.
Oh, shit. Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, I look a little younger than that,
but I'm 42 years old.
I don't want to come home at 52
and have to do everything over again,
lose everything, and have to come back
and do it all over again.
like I did that already
everything that you asked me to do when I get off parole
I did in spades
you want me to get a job cool I got a job
then I got a better job
got in the union start my own business
wanting partners on another business
was I was doing everything that I was supposed to do
giving back to my community and now
it's all taken away because you guys don't want to admit
that you were wrong
because had I not been wrong
had they not been wrong if they had body cameras everything
they wasn't going to offer me no 16 years
for shooting that file cop
they're going to make me go to trial and blow
my doors off and put me under one of these jails up here.
That's what they're going to do. They're not going to
they're going to let me cop out. If they were right. If they were
right, if they did everything right and by the book, they're not
offering, they're not letting me take 16. Yeah. So, but if they
had body cameras on
and they had body cameras on, they would have went to the body camera, seen that they
didn't announce themselves and I wouldn't be in this type of trouble. Right.
You had had a gun charge. I would have a gun charge. A gun charge
in the house. What was the gun charge?
carry? Well, gun charge a loaded firearm in the house because I'm a felon, it would have carried
the max is 15. Really? Because, you know, in the feds, like if I get caught with a gun, I get three
years. If I, if I get caught with a gun and drugs, you get five years. Now, the problem in
the state is a gun charge in the house is a de-felony. Your max is seven. If you have no,
because there's a there's an exception and it was it's 265 10 or something like that
there's an in-home exception so you have a low you get caught with a loaded firearm in the
house it's a D felony you usually cop out to E and you probably get a year the only exception to
that rule is if you have a prior felony or if they're machine guns so because I have a prior
felony it goes from a D to a C which is my max is 15 but the judge never does go if you get
caught with a gun in the house and you're a felon
never never is he going to give you 15 on cop out ever ever they're going to knock it down to a d
and you're going to cop out to a three or four or five and like i said i'm not saying i didn't do
anything wrong i had a gun on now for protection of my home for protection for my home
and you used it in in furtherance of protection of your home detection of my home as soon as i
open that door the first words on my mom weren't for my for me get me an ambulance am i going to die
I didn't say none of that.
The very first words on my mouth were, I'm sorry, I thought I was getting rough.
Is the cop okay?
And this is before I knew that I knew him.
I didn't find that I knew him for a week and a half, but I seen him in the newspaper.
Did he ever reach out to you?
Never.
He sold me.
He's suing you?
He sued me, he sued me, the landlord.
The landlord?
Yeah, he said he should have known about the criminal activity going on in the house.
But this goes back to there was no criminal activity going on in the house.
Right.
Yeah.
He's not going to win.
He's just soon.
I don't even know.
When my lawyers heard that he was soon and that they wanted an order of protection from, I have order, he has an order of protection on me.
They laughed in court.
Like, where do they do this?
Right.
And where do they do this at?
Well, yeah, I don't, you know, obviously I don't have anything good to say.
There's no good.
There's no good in this.
There's no good in this.
It's just, like I said, if, I mean, I'm going to keep fighting.
I'm going to put in whatever pills.
I can put it in.
That's another thing.
They limit what you can appeal because I cop out.
Right.
So I can't appeal a lot of stuff.
If I would have went to trial and got my doors blown up, then I can appeal the, um, everything, whatever.
Also, I'm a felon.
There's a gun, there was two guns.
Why?
Why did the feds come?
I have a previous gun from before
and there's another gun found in the kitchen
who my co-defendant wanted to exist
that I don't even know about.
They only offered him two years for the gun.
What did he end up getting total?
He wound up getting, so he wound up getting six for the drugs fast.
He took six for the drugs because he has prize for drugs for his drugs here.
He took six off the bat, like a few months in.
and then the guns in the house
they was like well
we'll give you two years
and run it consecutive
and he's like no I'm not taking that
I'm not I'm not going to take that
so his lawyer wound up doing it to where
he asked the judge well
give him seven for the gun
and run it concurrent
so he gets a total of seven
the judge said well I don't even know if I can give him that much
because they're not used to giving that much time
for a gun in the house right
So that's what he wound up again.
He wound up taking the seven for the gun,
the six for the drugs, and ran him together.
He'll be home in like three years because he's going to go to shop.
He'll be home in like three years.
He just went in a few weeks ago.
Can you think of anything we didn't cover?
No.
Can you think of anything we didn't cover that you want to cover?
No.
A little bit of a little bit of a little bit of,
press for you but um i'm depressed myself i wake up every day thinking about it if i i would be
able to deal with it better if i was actually still in the street because i can't get i can't get
mad i got hit by a car from playing in traffic that's my saying right i'm in the streets i'm doing
it's part of the game this is not part of the game to me i was never going back to jail i was
jail was a distant distant distant memory to me i'm not jail like i'm not going to be crazy
what am i going back to jail for doing so good out here legally i was i was a
And they can't take it from me then?
What, what, like, what are we doing in?
And now I have to go do the most time that I've ever done
and I'm in the most show I've ever been in.
When I was coping out,
because you know how you cop out when you go up there,
you pick the, Georgia, you're going to cop out to and you've got to admit.
T is coming down my face.
Not because of the time.
Because I'm admitting to something that I didn't do.
Right.
Admitting, that's what, it was tears of frustration and pain.
Like, you're making me admit.
to something that I did not do.
To this day, if I see one of these cops on the street, any one of the ones that was in my
house, even the one that got shot, the one that's suing me.
If they needed help, I would help them.
Like, I would help them.
If I see them in the street right now, when I'm walking down the street, I don't hold no animosity.
It's not like I'm like, oh, fuck the police because it is, no, they have to do their job.
It's a very sensitive job that they do, and I don't envy them.
I don't want to be a cop.
Right.
But just do it right.
Be fair.
like what why is your life worth more than minds
again to this day I'm not like
fuck the police I see them one of them outside right now
and they need help I would and their life was in danger
anything they need a flat tie what
this is the type of person I'm in anybody that knows me
can attest to that the fact that I built out on a five million
dollar bail me it wasn't my money
this is 18 people donated money
so you're telling me 18 people
it's not it doesn't go like that that's a that's a
testament to my character the the the
the carpsia when they were
taking the money.
And you know what you're doing?
Like, yeah, we know what you're doing.
And the clerk said, I've never seen
on like this before.
And there's a testament to his character.
It's the type of person that I'm quick to give
before I take any time.
So that's what hurts so much
that it's like,
it's just, it doesn't count for anything.
It don't matter to them.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think.
I think this is.
It's probably that got to be told
because if not, it's for nothing.
It's for nothing.
and it can't be for nothing
all right
I think this is a good stopping place
all right
hold on a second okay
okay
but do you have anything
that you any place you want people to go
or you know like a
social media or anything no
just
no like I don't go fund me
I don't got nothing
I don't like I said
this shit just
it's fucked up
it's fucked up
it's not fair
nobody should have to go through
it's like
nobody. I don't envy
like they really need to
and in the feds
there's no knock more wouldn't have stuck the judge wouldn't
they gave it to him because it's stricter now ever since
Brianna Taylor but the states can do what they want
that's why that this didn't go to the feds
because the feds would have looked at it like
there was no crime committed in the house why the
fuck did you get a no knock going right
it's not his house and you didn't even bring
up the person whose house it is
but after the fact you said that you knew I lived there
so why didn't you tell the judge that you know I lived there
right so that's why they didn't that's why i think the feds didn't come to the feds like yo
so do i think eventually like because you know how appeals work appeals when you get court in the state
you got to go through the two state appeals get denied and then appeal to the supreme court
i think once it gets to the feds i'll be heard more than in the state court i think i'm going to
get denied on my appeals on the state court i think we'll have to wait until it gets to the federal
circuit and then i'll get some traction but by that time you know how the how appeals work two years
each one. I'm going to have years in. Yeah. So, but it has to be, it has to be told because, like I said, this is, this is unacceptable. This is unacceptable. And it's the scariest shit I've ever been through in my life. I went from dead sleep to thinking I was going to die. I'm in a room and 48, you saw a picture of my door, 48 shots coming through my door, whizzing past, literally whizzing past my head. I don't know to this day how I only got shot once. Had no close. I had no close.
because I went from one side of the door to the other side of the door.
How I only got shot once, I have zero clue.
Zero clue.
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