Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Innocent Man's Last Interview Before 16 Years In Prison ( Illegal Raid & Arrest )

Episode Date: December 29, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 They found 48 shell cations on the outside of my door. Has anybody screamed police? Nobody has said anything yet. No crime was committed in that house. So how can you just come and kick my door down? And now I got to go do 16 years when I wasn't doing nothing wrong. My thing is, I know the cop. I rode motorcycles with him.
Starting point is 00:00:16 This is something before this happened. I bought him lunch. They won't let me fight it. And the same judge that signed the warrant is my trial judge. That seems like a conflict of interest. People say wrong place, wrong time. How is it wrong place? I was in my bed, sleep where I was supposed.
Starting point is 00:00:30 supposed to be. I'm a little depressed for you. I'm depressed myself. I wake up every day thinking about it. My name's Nelson Fizarro. I was born in Yarkers, New York, 1982. My mother was, at first, was a stay-at-home mom. My father went to jail when I was around 8 or 9 years old, right around 89, 90. He caught a Fed case. He wound up doing 10 years. He came home when I was, he came He came home when I was a senior high school. Yeah, I was, I was thinking, oh, he went away for six months, but no, if it's a dead case. Yeah, he came home when I was a senior high school. What happened with your mom and now, you know, like, you're without a girl.
Starting point is 00:01:12 So my mother, who's the most official lady I've ever met in my life, she stood, she did the whole time, my father. Every day. We never missed more than 30 days. So she wound up getting a job in a bank first. she started working in a bank right before my father went away just because she was she wanted to work and she had always worked when we were younger because we didn't have money so she wanted to be to stay on him mom later on when we moved to standout and then she started working right before my dad got locked up she was a teller in a bank then when my father got locked up she wound
Starting point is 00:01:53 of being a secretary at some some office and then it was hard on her to get us to him because he's so far so she wound up getting a job in the airlines for at the time continental airlines so that she can get flying privileges so that we could fly to him because you fly for free but it's stable so for 10 years we never missed never went longer than 30 days and that was whether we had to drive 10 hours waiting, waiting the airport for two, three days because all the flights are full, and we fly standby. She did what she had to do to make sure that we saw that man. We never went longer than 30 days.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Sometimes it was twice in a month, but we never went longer than 30 days without seeing. Okay. What happened when he came home? He came home. Did something happen between then? I mean, you're getting in trouble or not? No, no, no. I didn't get in trouble until I got to come.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Okay. So I went to Catholic school my whole life from kindergarten. I graduated high school Catholic school. Okay. My older brother was in the streets. Me and my younger brother were definitely not in the streets. We weren't even allowed outside. Like, my father would ground us from jail on the phone.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Like, I would never want to sneak out. I've never cut a class in high school. I don't even know what it feels like to cut a class in high school. I played basketball. My father came home right around my senior year. He went to the house first. And he went back to doing whatever he did. He wound up, I remember I wasn't going to go to my senior prom because I don't care about stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:03:34 And he wound up getting me the big stretched Hummer. Now, my mind is this in 2000 for just me and my date. Is that you want to go to the prom? I'm going to send you right. And he got me a stretched hummer just for me and my date. But he always encouraged us school. Like that was his thing. Go to school.
Starting point is 00:03:52 go to school, go to school, do whatever to school. I wanted to be a lawyer, actually. So I played basketball. I went to a school that's closed down now. It's called a Green Mountain College in Pulteney, Vermont. I redshirted there, and I went to a college, American International College, in Massachusetts. That was my first brush with the law. I got in trouble for having a gun.
Starting point is 00:04:16 This is in Springfield, Massachusetts. Okay. The only reason I had the gun was because it was, me and one of my teammates. He's from Tarrytown. Larry Gibbs. He's actually, he turned out to be, he's a cop in Texas, man. All right. We were smoking weed on the sideblock next to the school,
Starting point is 00:04:38 and there was some young kids throwing bottles out the window, and they hit a car. The car backed up and pulled up on us and hopped out and pulled that gun on both of us. Are you throwing bottles in my car? And I'm like, nah, we were just. over here smoking we didn't do anything we know who y'all are and left and the next time i i seen him i had a i had a gun on me and um and he wanted him running and telling that i had a gun on me so i got in trouble for that i want him getting kicked out of school i came home
Starting point is 00:05:11 when i came home i went to the streets i didn't know nothing else me being stupid thinking I could do what my friends are doing at the time. I went to the streets. I started selling drugs. Well, how much for the gun? What happened with the gun? What happened with the gun was I had a lawyer up there named Vincent Bonjourney. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And on a technicality, he got me like a federal, because up there a gun charge of the Fed case. He got me a federal ACD. Basically, don't get in trouble for six months. Okay. So I came home and I was like, I'm going on the streets. I told my mom going to the streets and I moved out of the house I slept in cars
Starting point is 00:05:54 I slept at my cousin's house wherever I didn't want to do nothing and I could always go home to my mother's house forever my mom is the most official lady ever and I went to the streets You say you went to the streets What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:06:06 Started selling drugs Okay Started selling drugs Started selling drugs Trying to figure it out messing money up being broke And then I started doing really well
Starting point is 00:06:16 What'd your dad say Does he know he's got it now at the time he was at the time he had caught another case he was in the feds okay when i went to go see him he caught a case the day this is how crazy the feds are the day he signed out on federal probation he caught a case they violated him they said we're violating you for um going out the country he went to dominican republic like 17 times was like all right it took him into custody he takes his jewelry off because he's like a 80s 80s gains it like he 3 p2, $2,000, $3,000 suits, shoes, like that was his thing.
Starting point is 00:06:56 P.S.J. Watch, pinky ring. So he goes and later to sign out like a real big shot and they volley. So he comes back the next day to get his jewelry and stuff or a couple days later, whenever we were. And the PO was like, oh, you're not going nowhere. We're locking you back up. You got a new case, money laundering in Puerto Rico. So he wanted to catch another case. He's fighting the case. We're in two years for that case. They sent him with four Dix. I went to Fort Dix to go see him.
Starting point is 00:07:25 And I told him I was selling drugs. At this time, by this time, I was doing well selling drugs. So I actually went to ask him, like, for advice. Right. He walked off the visit. He what? He laughed. He walked off the visit.
Starting point is 00:07:41 He said, I don't know. I'm not condoning that. There's nothing, hell no, no. Figure it out yourself. You figured it out. this far figured out yourself and he walked off the visit okay so um what did you think was going to happen you thought he was you know here's how you do it or you got it's what you thought he was yeah i thought he was yeah because you can't if it's see if it seemed like he's not
Starting point is 00:08:05 in a position to judge you but he's super just disappointed he was hoping better for you he was definitely hoping better for me you ever heard that term and he paid so much money for my lawyer in in Massachusetts. Have you ever heard the phrase or the term or whatever? Your father is the only man alive that will want you to do better than him? Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:32 So he never wanted this life for us. Like his thing was, I was the first person of my family to go to college. So that, I'm saying. So he walked out to visit. So I wound up catching another gun charge. in Staten Island, because I'm from Staten Island. So when I caught the other gun charge in Staten Island, I'm fighting a gun charge, fighting a gun charge.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I want to be in probation for the gun. The judge says, don't let me see you in front of me ever again. I'm giving you a shot. I had a chance to go play basketball in Puerto Rico, some pro basketball stuff. So he's like, I'm giving you a shot. Get out of here, do so much in life. Three months later, I get caught in the,
Starting point is 00:09:16 conspiracy for doing somebody a favor. How's that? You had to do with me. So, I was selling drugs at the time, but the person who I was getting the drugs from wasn't from staying out. I had a friend of a friend. This is, this is the,
Starting point is 00:09:32 this is how my life been going since it the back then. At a friend of a friend who was getting drugs off of me. The person who I usually get it from wasn't around. Well, I can wait. Me personally, I can wait. He's like, yo, I really need. needed, uh-uh. So I called somebody that I knew that would have it that I never get from,
Starting point is 00:09:51 ever. This is the first time I'm ever dealing with him. And the day I went up getting the drugs, mind you, the drugs in the car is only the kid that's in the car with me. They were watching a guy that I bought it from for two years. Right. And I caught a case. They stopped me. They knew what was there because the phones were tapped. And the kid that was in a car with me told on me saying that they were my drugs when it was on phone tap saying that listen these are his they're going away everything it was all his I had that and money in the car the money was my and drugs I didn't want to tell him a guy so I want him getting six years I fought it for two years and I want him getting six years were you on bond for the two years no because I was on
Starting point is 00:10:35 probation for the gun okay so once I got the probation violation it was old so you already got two years in. So I got two years in. On six. On six, nonviolent at the time. This is when they just changed the laws where you're doing eight months to a year on merit. This is that the third. I go up north. I do another two and a half. I come on my working lease. I'm in work at least doing my thing. Working. I'm working for my father now. He owned the pallet warehouse. And yeah, I came home already. He started doing the right thing. He was doing some truck and stuff. and he had owned a pallet warehouse that refurbish pallets and sold pallets. So I was working there.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I actually almost cut my hand off there. I hurt myself or whatever. So I'm working there with him. And then I had lose my overnight's because I made it back to the facility late. It's Lincoln in Manhattan. So I'm dealing with that. A cousin of mine gets locked up. He's like my brother.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I go to see him in Rikers Island. While I'm in work with me, I go to see him on Rikers Out. Are you not allowed to do that? I had done it two or three times before. As long as you don't get in trouble, it's not like I didn't see an issue with it. I'm really just going to see him. As long as you don't get caught. Yeah, I mean, yeah, as long as you don't get caught going to see him, which, what am I?
Starting point is 00:11:56 To me, what would I get caught doing? I'm like, I'm just going to see him. Right. It's during my timeout, I'm just going to see him. I go to see him. we sat down CEO comes out the back and they found
Starting point is 00:12:09 a balala drugs that was on the floor right they go back and I don't even know what the hell happened they go back we're sitting down
Starting point is 00:12:17 three minutes they say you two get up I was with his wife they're like I'm gonna get me in the office and like
Starting point is 00:12:23 oh you came to passing drugs I didn't pass nobody no drugs I don't know what y'all talking about the camera's here get the footage like
Starting point is 00:12:33 I'm gonna work with this they let her go lock me up I fight that case for 16 months I'm telling for 16 months like you'll just get the cameras just get the camera just get the camera just get the camera I want to fighting it I want to beating it because I didn't do it right um case gets dismiss and seal but I'm in rikers this whole time because I'm still a state inmate I don't have no bond again it sent me up north because you're still on that I'm still on that six flat bit send me up north I'm real close on my CR I beat the ticket so they didn't take away no good time and sort of
Starting point is 00:13:05 I beat the ticket a week later I'm home less than a week later I'm home they let me home I come home I'm on five years per row now so from the six flat right I'm on five these per row so I come home thinking I'm broke for a minute you know what let me double and dabble doing whatever yeah um no I'm lying when I first came home my cousin used to play for the Green Bay Packers I started doing sports marketing with him on some I don't even know how this happened I went out there to visit him because I wasn't doing nothing else at home
Starting point is 00:13:45 I went out there to visit him sports marketing this lady named Stacy she wound up like taking a liking to me she's like yo do you want a job and I was like no I don't want him or do you want a job I don't want a job I don't want a job because that's my because he's like my best friend but I call him my cousin I want I don't like that nepotism fable to him stuff I get that So she wanted to get him to ask me, like, yo, why don't you take the job?
Starting point is 00:14:10 There's nothing to do with me. You'd be good at the job. I wanted to be doing real good at the job. And for one reason, another, the firm closed down, I came home. So now I'm doing fairly well for myself money-wise. Now, after the sports marketing. But I have to figure something else out. Like, what am I doing now?
Starting point is 00:14:27 Like, I'm just sitting home. My brain gets to working. You know what? Let me double and dabble. Right. So I start dabbling, dabbling, doing what I got to do, all the time, staying low, staying out the way, it's making my moves. I'm doing better and better. I'm working.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I have a job that I'm doing stuff for cars. So I'm doing that, and I'm doing whatever on the side. Why just survive back to school when you can thrive by creating a space that. that does it all for you, no matter the size. Whether you're taking over your parents' basement or moving to campus, IKEA has hundreds of design ideas and affordable options to complement any budget. After all, you're in your small space era. It's time to own it.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Shop now at IKEA.ca. I'm still on parole now. Parole comes to my house. I got like six months, five months left on parole. from doing the whole five years. The only violation I had was for ride on my dirt bike. That's it. They come to my house because I had friends that were upstate
Starting point is 00:15:45 and I had sent them food packages. So I sent them food packages. There was nothing illegal in the packages. It was pictures, food, sneakers, money, magazines. And I'm a person I don't like pictures. I was raised by my father who was from the 80s. you wouldn't. Don't take no pictures, though. Leave me out of pictures, leave me out of videos, leave me out all that shit. And they want to find in, uh, parole came to my door,
Starting point is 00:16:13 knocked on my door because the sergeant at the facility sent the pictures of me and Miami for my birthday a year prior to him. I have a gold chain on, I have watch on, and they show up in my house. I was standing on a, on a couch and live with ticket tape, you know, little white ticket tapes. The sergeant said they looked like coat bags. so he sent them to my parole officer my pro officer comes to my house knocks on the door I let him in you guys want coffee
Starting point is 00:16:40 it was like it was a four of them guys want coffee it was like now put your hands behind your back for well so it's a normal home bridge I said this ain't a normal homeowner I've been on parole five years
Starting point is 00:16:52 like what do we do you don't send four people to yeah four people don't show up four people's never been in my eye right okay I have forgot that I left some drugs on my count
Starting point is 00:17:02 in a black in a tupperware in a black plastic bag that I never keep no drugs in my house usually I take it to where I got to go the night before and I don't never go to sleep at the time with drugs in my house ever so
Starting point is 00:17:16 they find it okay let's go down lock me up they lock me and my girl up let's go down they said it was cocaine okay by the time I got to court now it was heroin
Starting point is 00:17:32 So they made a lot of mistakes, but they didn't want to let it go. I wound up getting four flat for that. How old are you by this point? By this point, this is 2014. So I'm 32. Okay. Right before my, right before I turn 32. I go.
Starting point is 00:18:02 do my time well I had a violation first time served 90 I came on I'm fighting it I'm fighting I'm like I'm taking it to trial in order to get my girl out of trouble at the time I told them listen I'll take a plea you know I'm gonna beat it at trial
Starting point is 00:18:16 I'm gonna take a plea but you have to dismiss and seal the case against my girlfriend that's the only way I'm taking the plea so if it doesn't start there we're going to trial they want to dismissing and sale on her case and giving me four flat I stayed home like another almost two years
Starting point is 00:18:32 before I actually did the time. I was out on beer. So I just kept having my lawyer. You push it back. Oh, okay. So maybe it was crowded or something. I'm not ready to go. I'm not ready to go.
Starting point is 00:18:43 You got to pay law. You could like kind of, I need to set stuff up. And as long as you're doing, you're not getting in no trouble outside. They know you're going to do the time anyway. So I go in. I get full flat.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Now, this is the time when they had just changed the shock laws. In New York, you can go to shock. At first, it was. You had to be three, you had to be under 35 years old. You had to have three years or under to your conditional release date. And they send you to the shock program. You heard of shock program? It's like a, like a boot camp.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Yeah. So they changed it to the age is now like 50. And you can be, you can have felonies prior and you can have done state time prior, which it was never like that. They just was certain, like violent a lot. Most violent families, they don't accept. They have to be nonviolent, certain this, certain that. I qualify. I go to Gawanda first because I had to do a few more months before I was eligible time on.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I go to Gawanda first, then I go to shock. Shock changed my life. I never, ever want to be spoken to in my mind that I never ever want to go through this again. I never want to be spoken to like this again. The stuff they put you through up there is, I'm talking about. in about 30 second showers for the first two and a half months, three months, and you have to share shot with somebody?
Starting point is 00:20:10 Eight minutes to eat. Eight minutes to get ready in the morning. And this is 45, 50 people in the dorm. Everybody has to be ready in under eight minutes. And that's getting dressed to whatever outfit of the day is so you can go to PT. That's getting your cube inspection ready. Everything has to be the way it's supposed to.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I never wanted to go to that ever. So I said, listen, I don't know what I'm going to do when I get home, but I know what I'm not going to do when I get home. If I figured that out, I could figure something else out. So that was my whole mentality, the whole time in shock. Like, you have clearings every Saturday, and you would sit in a circle, and the council would come in every Saturday night,
Starting point is 00:20:47 and they would ask you how you're feeling. From, it's six months. Once you get into a platoon, it's six months. The whole six months, every single clearing, my clearing was the same. How you doing? My name is, uh, it may Pizarre, And I'm feeling miserable
Starting point is 00:21:03 That by the end The council was like listen You've been here in six months And you're still miserable You're about to go home in two weeks I used to miserable I said I need this misery Because I don't never want to feel like this again
Starting point is 00:21:13 I don't want to forget how this feels When I go on the outside So I need to be miserable It's not a bad miserable It's a for all intents of purposes A good miserable because I'm never going to forget this Never going to forget this I mean
Starting point is 00:21:26 You have to run You ran 10 miles a week No more We ran 667 miles In the six months That I was there We was a running Patoon
Starting point is 00:21:36 We was in the hardest Patoon on the compound I mean They put you do some shit So I did that I graduated I did well
Starting point is 00:21:46 Didn't get in no trouble In there And I'm not the type To get in trouble Anyway I don't have a problem With authority I come home
Starting point is 00:21:53 And I'm like I don't know What I'm gonna do But I know What I'm not gonna do And I want to be in a garbage man Private sanitation making dirt money.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I was making $17 an hour. This is in 2018. $17 an hour. And I got the job because the guy before we died, he got crushed with a container because the driver's an asshole. Yeah, it's crazy. You work 14 to 16 hours
Starting point is 00:22:17 and they're trying to hurry up and get the route done. So you're imagine garbage trucks going over the dirt and it's two, three in the morning. There's no cars. I'm going over the dividers, whether it's raining, whether it's snow,
Starting point is 00:22:27 whatever it is. and a really good friend of mine whose dad is a really good friend of mine as well Italian guy I was always respected by a lot of the Italian people from Staten Island because I went about my whatever I had to do I went about it myself
Starting point is 00:22:44 you couldn't tell what I did unless you know what I did super respectable I'm super humble everything so he sees me on the back of the and he works in construction there he does a he's a machine operator he'd been at for like 15 years or whatever the kitchen maybe so he sees me on the back of the truck
Starting point is 00:23:02 one night and he's like nephew you working still and I'm like yeah my idea I've been home like three months then and he had told his son like yo he ain't gonna last he's too used to getting a lot of money he's not going to last for that shit three months later he sold me on the back of the truck it was pouring that night and I say yeah well he was going to work month and a half later, he saw me again, it was freezing outside. It was snowing, hailing. I'm on the back of the truck. Doing my thing. He called me up the next day and he was like, don't go back to work. I'm like, well? He's like, I got you a job. I got you into a union. You got a raise. I'm like, what? So at the time, I'm making $17,000 an hour.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Right. So what did you? We're talking for like 15 minutes, 20 minutes. I'm like, you didn't have to do that. He's like, no, I've seen that you're not going back to it. Because you could have been stop doing this shit and just want to start getting money. I said, how much am I making? It was 48, 28, 28. All right, now we're doing something. So we got a union. What's the union for?
Starting point is 00:24:13 What are you doing? 10. I was working in asphalt and concrete. I was doing the asphalt on the streets. Okay. Where they rip up a couple of inches of the streets. Yeah. So I started doing that.
Starting point is 00:24:25 And then I got in good in that because I'm not. learn how to work the machine, the small machine that actually rips the street up. So I'm going there busting my eyes, working my eyes, so COVID hits. What am I going to do now? Working there for a little bit, it slowed down a lot. So you know what? My credits have very decent. I got a little bit of money.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Let me go rent some cards. I got two cars and I started renting them out. Started making a nice amount of money doing that, a nice amount of money. And I'm figuring my way So from two cars I went to four cars And I had a couple of other friends cars You know what
Starting point is 00:25:04 If you want you can rent these out two We'll make it So I'm doing my thing In the interim I'm doing property management My cousin asked me if I wanted If I wanted to be a property manager So I do that
Starting point is 00:25:16 We wind up I started with his house in Jersey When I used to play football I started with his house in Jersey He lived in Englewood Cliffs He had a mansion in Engwood Cliffs So I managed that for like a year then
Starting point is 00:25:27 he bought land in Tulum, Mexico with two other partners and he built a compound on it so he hits me one day he's like, yo I need a favor so you want to move to Tulum? I'm like
Starting point is 00:25:43 yeah, why not? What do you need? He's like, I want you to oversee the construction of the house. By this time I'm off parole. I got off parole in 2019. I maxed out. So I went to Toulon vacation because he was out there already when he came back a few months later that's when he asked me like oh do you want to
Starting point is 00:26:01 I'm like yeah why not I go do it and I moved to Toulon for almost three months I saw the construction house from when it was the foundation wasn't even there until they started pulling the the ceilings because everything is concrete out there
Starting point is 00:26:15 yeah 4,800 square feet huge pool it's a compound probably worth black maybe a little over $3 million right now we were going to do that and then get some more land. It was for Jiu-Jitsu.
Starting point is 00:26:30 They were going to do like seminars for like famous Jiu-Jitsu instructors go out there, rent the house. We were going to do one bed, one-and-two bedroom Airbnbs on it and do like a, they do the Jiu-Jitsu retreats and all that. So that was what it was gearing towards, but they had to do the main house first. I come back home. I started a concierge service with a partner amount. So we're doing black car pickup. I bought two escalades And now we're doing black car pickups
Starting point is 00:26:57 So everything's picking up for me Little by little I'm doing super well I don't have a care or worry in the world At the same time Cannabis is about to start being legal They just legalize it They talk about Giving the licenses and stuff
Starting point is 00:27:13 So I'm always thinking I'm always working on you know what I'm going to open up And a smoker's lounge But it's 420 friendly I wanted to model it after the Italian cigar balls in Staten Island. So I get that up and going. In the interim, a friend of mine that I see every day.
Starting point is 00:27:34 He comes, he wakes up, he comes over my house in the morning after he drops his daughter off. We smoke a blunt. We play the game. We played Madden or zombies or whatever. And once he leaves for the day, he leaves for the day. He has a house. He has his own house. He has his own family.
Starting point is 00:27:49 He gets into it one night with his wife. It calls me up. It's like one in the morning, probably 12 something. And had a penthouse apartment on Staten Island at the time. And he's like, yo, I can't do it no more. So now I said, come over, smoke a blunt. Let me worry about him. He had got into a fight with her and she disrespected him by and put her hands on him
Starting point is 00:28:13 in front of his daughter and all that in front of our family that was at the house. He's like, y'all just can't do it no more. So I'm like, you know what? Were you going to stay tonight? He's like, I don't even know. home. I said, look, stay here. I go stay at a girl. I had two-bedroom apartment. I said, stay here. One of the bedrooms didn't have anything in it. I come back the next day. Are you figured out what you going to do yet? Nah, I said, well, until you, because he had just bought a house in Jersey,
Starting point is 00:28:39 until you figure out what you're going to do and get on your feet, put a bedroom in an extra bedroom, and you can stay here. I'm never here. I'm between, at the time I'm going to L.A., I'm in New York. I'm never home. And it helps me out too Because I have a dog He can watch a dog All right He stays there for a couple months
Starting point is 00:28:57 At that same time I had gotten the house At this incident That we're leading up to Apple When I get the house I had rented that house before Funny enough That's the house that I got locked up in
Starting point is 00:29:11 When I got caught in 2014 Okay The landlord called me And offered it to me again Because I was only there for like two months when I got locked up in 2014. And I absolutely loved that outfit. So when he offered it to me again, I said, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I was going to rent that house for a year and then buy a house in Jersey. So I said, absolutely. So I get it. And what I do when I get houses, apartments, everything, I do everything the way I want it before I move in, before I put the furniture in. I paint, run wires through the walls. Whatever you're going to do, get it in there now, and let's get it out the way. So I do that for a couple months.
Starting point is 00:29:45 And then a friend of mine who's a boxer used it for training kit. He fought him in Tyson Fury on the card that year. He moved out. I moved in. At the same time that I move in, I tell him, like, listen, it's a three-bedroom house. I know I'm not going to be stuck with you. If you want, come stay at the crib, put it, what I'm saying? It's three bedrooms.
Starting point is 00:30:05 And work it out. I'm never home, bro. He comes over there. So he's staying at the house for maybe two months, a little over two and a half months. when this incident happened. So I'm asleep one night. I still play basketball. So I had went, I played basketball, and I blew my knee out.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I went to, I had to do something in L.A. I went to L.A. I came back because I had to get an MRI red. The specialist is only there on Mondays. That Monday that I came back was Martin Luther King that he wasn't there. So I had to wait until the following Monday. So you know what? I'm not going to fly back to L.A. to fly back.
Starting point is 00:30:43 I'll just wait until I get the MRI red and fly back. It's a Wednesday And I have a real estate meeting in Philadelphia I have my driver Because now I have a concierge service So And my driver pick me up I'm still on crutches
Starting point is 00:30:59 I'm just started using the king And my driver picked me up We're going to Philly I'm supposed to spend the night in Philly My sister calls me up She's like, um can you pick up your niece I'm on the turnpike I just left I'm like 30 minutes to wait and stand out
Starting point is 00:31:14 She's like can your sister Can you pick up your niece I said, yeah, what happened? She's like, my father just passed away. And Mike assaulted her. He's one of the greatest guys ever when he was in the hospital. And I'm like, I'm turning around right now. She's like, where are you at?
Starting point is 00:31:27 So I'm going to turn around. I'll be there in 40 minutes. I'm like, no, I need somebody to pick her up right now. Where are you going? So I was going to Philly. I got to really see me. She's like, no, I'm going to get somebody to pick her up. I have your mother pick up something.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I said, right, so I'm going to go to Philly. But I'm not going to stay the night. I'm going to come back. I do whatever I got to do in Philly. Come back. I go to her house. Stayed a couple hours. Pay my condolences. I cry it out. Everything. I have my driver taking me back to my house.
Starting point is 00:31:56 The house, not the penthouse, the house. I grab $20,000 and I go to Fandu in Jersey. I'm at Fanduil until about 12 o'clock, like 12.15. I hit them for like $11,000 and change. Good night. Casino? What's... Oh, a sports betting. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:32:14 So it's a good night. I hit them for a little bit of breath. Okay, come back. I make it home a little after one. Upstairs, my driver's like, you need me tomorrow. I said, I don't know, I'll let you know in the morning. Walk in my house. I let my dogs out.
Starting point is 00:32:31 My older dog and I had a puppy at the time. Let them out. I roll a blunt. They come back in. The puppy peas on the floor. I put them in the cage. Me and the older dog go upstairs. It's about.
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Starting point is 00:34:10 off site wide. My dog wakes me up. He sleeps in the bed. He wakes me up. But he's not growling. And anytime anybody comes by the door, by the house, anything, he barks. He don't like anybody coming by the house. He's super over-protected.
Starting point is 00:34:26 But he's not barking. He's growling. So I think maybe he just heard. I'm like, let's what the fuck up. We're back to sleep. And I lay my head back on the pillow and he starts growling more aggressively. What the fuck is the woman tree? And my first floor is tired.
Starting point is 00:34:40 my steps and my second floor is hardwood. So now I hear people coming in my house, like walking up the steps in my house, a group of people. What the fuck? Andre, I know my friend is there and his daughter had stayed the night
Starting point is 00:34:54 because he was taking the school in the moment. So I'm like, maybe I'm bugging. But it sounds like a group of people trying to be quiet, heavy feet. In my mind, I'm not doing nothing in the streets. I haven't done anything in the streets in a while. So why would it be? It was never entered my mind
Starting point is 00:35:10 that was police ever no way no way right so I grab a gun I go to the door and I put my ear to the door they start whispering on the other side of the door no no it's not this door it's that door hit that door
Starting point is 00:35:26 so I cocked the gun loud enough for them to hear it loud as hell and he starts shooting through my door I shoot back I get hit What was that like? Like, I mean, when you hear the first shots, you know immediately, I mean, it's guns are loud.
Starting point is 00:35:45 And it wasn't, it was five people up there. So it wasn't like it was one shot and then wait and no. It was like call of duty. Like I went from sleep to, and I'm still sleeping. This is 30 seconds. From the time they came in my door to the time that they carried the cop, I was 1203 seconds. They got to take a couple of seconds to get upstairs.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And I'm still on crutch. I'm lipping around. I got to blow my knee out, ACL, MCL, PCL, and LCL. My knee is no good. So I'm limping to the door. So it takes, this is 30 seconds after I wake up. I grabbed the gun from where it was at in my, in my bed. I grabbed the click from right on top of the, of a war unit that's right by the door.
Starting point is 00:36:27 And I put it in. I'm listening. They start shooting. So I start shooting back. Monji, nobody's saying anything. Nobody's saying anything. I got hit with an. first couple shots spun me and sat me down and I slid across the door so now I start shooting
Starting point is 00:36:43 over my shoulder I'm laying on the floor my back and still just shooting with my shoulder still don't know what the fuck is going on in like I'm out of bullets I only have five rounds I get up and I go into my bathroom so when I look down my mind's my ethical drawers socks and a t-shirt I looked down and there's blood pouring down my leg I got hit in the right in the front of my groin area and it came out the back of my thigh. So now I'm trying to process like, what the fuck is going on? They're still shooting through the goal.
Starting point is 00:37:13 What the fuck is going on? I told myself, you're going to die today. Today's your day. They're not coming in here to help you out. Today's your day. Does anybody scream police? Nobody has said anything yet. Try to jump on them.
Starting point is 00:37:27 All this has happened in simultaneously, fast. In my mind, I'm like, I try to jump on them, do something when they come in the door. So I'm walking back out my bedroom, the bathroom is in my bedroom. I'm walking back out the bathroom and they stopped shooting. And I hear, officer down, officer down.
Starting point is 00:37:45 I said, what the fuck? Officer down. So instead of going to the door, I went to the window, which is opposite of the door. And there's blood of my blind so when I looked out of the blind. I seen the cops outside. I went and I sat on the foot of my bed
Starting point is 00:37:57 and I put my hands up. I said, I'm sorry. I said, I'm on that I'm hit. I'm on that I'm hit. He said, come to the door open the door. I said, I'm not coming to that door. but I'm on that I'm hit. They said, come to the door,
Starting point is 00:38:07 open the fucking door right now, put your hands out. Go to the door and went to the door, open the door, open my hands. I stepped in the hallway. The first words out of my mouth when that door got opened. Mind you, this all happened
Starting point is 00:38:19 about how to close bedroom door was, I'm sorry, I thought I was getting robbed. Is the cop okay? I asked if the cop was okay from the time that I opened that door all the way until I got to the hospital. I was in the hospital.
Starting point is 00:38:29 I was still acting about him. I didn't ask, am I going to die? I've never been shot before. I never asked, am I going to die? Get me a hand. ambulance. I didn't ask for anything else except for is the cop okay. I went from thinking I was going to die to wishing I was dead once I hurt that it was police.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I get to the hospital. I go through the process of the hospital. I get to court. No bail obviously. I was in the hospital two days. It went in and out. He's had to stop the bleeding. I would court. No bail. Now I'm still trying to piece together. what the fuck is going on. Yeah, why were the police in your house? So I wind up, when I got to Rikers, they put me in the same house as my men, a homeboy that was staying with me. Right. There was a, uh, there was a warrant out for him because he had a sealed indictment for seven sales that he made to undercover, allegedly.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Okay. And they applied for the warrant for no knock. warrants because they thought that the house was his they never mentioned me in the warrant they never mentioned me in the application to the warrant to the judge like listen there was never no drugs sold out of my house there was never no drugs found in my house ever in the warrant and have the application for the one in the warrant they said he is we need a no knock wrong because cocaine could be easily disposed of and drug dealers usually keep drugs in place that they can control and that's where he lives, so that's where he can control.
Starting point is 00:40:07 That's why they got the no knock on it. Nobody never said they saw drugs in the house. Nobody never said that there was drugs in the house. There was no drugs found in the house. There was no sales made out of the house. They said he went to a sale one time from, he got a phone call to make a sale. He left the house one time, went to a sale,
Starting point is 00:40:24 and then went and did whatever. And on another occasion, he made the sale and then went back to the house. But there was seven sales. That was the only two times that he went back to the house. Where he went to the other five times? Where did he went to go to five times? he wasn't selling drugs out of my house and dispose of what it's not evidence of a crime because he's already indicted right he's already indicted pending arrest he's already indicted so it's not like
Starting point is 00:40:45 you need the evidence that you're trying to get with a no-knock warrant to further your his case he's already indicted so how can you get on top of that five cops no body camera aren't they required to have body cameras i know as of july after the bionna taylor stuff as of july of 2021 they're supposed to wear body cameras at all times on any no-knock warrant. The only thing that, and any warrant execute a period. The only thing that's exempt from that is body searches, cavity search. That's the only search that's exempt from having a body camera on. So I'm in jail now.
Starting point is 00:41:25 I'm figuring all this shit out. I don't even know about the castle doctrine where you're allowed to protect your home with Delhi Force in New York. There's only two places in New York where you don't have to retreat. You have the duty to retreat in New York. It's not like Florida. You guys got to stay in your ground. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:38 As soon as you feel threatened, you can stay in your ground. In New York, you have the duty to retreat. You have to try to get out of that situation before anything else escalates. The only two places that are exempt to that are your place of business and your home in New York. That's it. There's no self-defense. There's no on none. It's called a castle doctrine.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Okay. So I'm in jail. I got no bail. I got a high-priced lawyer named Lance Azaro And I'm calling around a bunch of lawyers And they're all telling me now You're not getting no bill You're bugging out
Starting point is 00:42:09 A cop got shot this scene You shot him You're not getting no bail Get comfortable You know Lance is like He was the only one I was like yeah
Starting point is 00:42:16 I can get you a beer I said you sure He's like yeah This is right around a bail reform Had just dropped She's like I can get you a bill He went to court He tried to give me a bill
Starting point is 00:42:26 For my regular judge The judge is not him He's screaming at them Turning red He's like this is bullshit shit, he's like, don't wear him to get you a bill. He goes to the appellate division. I get my bail to be appellate division, but they made my bail $5 million with house arrest.
Starting point is 00:42:41 At that time, it's the highest bill ever ever made ever made in the state, not the feds. And the feds didn't get it lowered? No, they denied, they denied getting it lowered. I bailed that on a $5 million a bill. What is that lost? I had to give the courts because I went through partially. secured bond, so I get the money back. So I had to give
Starting point is 00:43:05 them $500,000 liquid and prove where it came from. Then I had to give them $4.5 million in equity in property. Whoa. So it costing me $500,000, and I had six signatures. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:22 So I'm fighting it, fighting it, fighting it. And then I'm like, I'm going to trial. Like this. I'm so, big on accountability. If I did something wrong, punish me for what I did. I'm totally okay with you punish me for what I did, but don't punish me for something that I didn't do and try to make me out to be a monster. I give back. Like, I just did a turkey drive 320 turkeys. The Thanksgiving
Starting point is 00:43:46 before this happened. It's happened January 20th of 2020. Thanksgiving before the 320 turkeys are my own pocket. And I don't advertise it, promote it, because I don't care. I don't look for the accolades. I do it because even now I came home. I came home on an angle monitor. I did. a back-to-school on the giveaway. August of 23, 500 book bags, full of supplies, four notebooks, a packet and you see two-folders, pens, pads, pencils. We did free food all day. I had 13 raffles, four laptops, four tablets, wireless headphones, a 55-inch TV, a couple of gift cards, $250 gift cards free face paint for the kids
Starting point is 00:44:32 free haircuts for the kids all day everything was free I was free I was something to when we get over and I don't do it to promote I didn't promote it like look at what I'm doing like I do it because I like to give back that's what I like to do that's my thing so I came home
Starting point is 00:44:47 fighting it I'm like I'm going to go to trial so what's the gonna do you're gonna give me 15 years for the gun I can go to shock with that I'll be in shock I'll be home like five years six years I go to trial I go to pick a jury
Starting point is 00:45:00 the day I went to pick a jury they said listen you got to open over for you 18 or 16 to 20 the judge well the judge and the DA
Starting point is 00:45:11 have an open open for you 16 to 20 the judge will probably give you 18 or 19 and you cop out to attempt the murder on police I said no I'm not taking it
Starting point is 00:45:20 so what's the worst that's going to happen they're going to give me 15 for the gun if I blow to anything else they'll run a concurring why would I take 18 and I know I'm going to beat the shooting. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Okay. You go inside. I'm going to court room. They tell the judge he doesn't want to take it. The judge goes, why he don't want to take it? It's like because he's going to beat the shooting. The judge says, oh, he's probably going to beat the shooting. Even if he beats the shooting, I'm going to max him on a gun. And he has a 54 kind of indictment. Anything else he blows to, I'm going to max him on that and run a
Starting point is 00:45:52 consecutive. So he should take the plea because he'll kick a got out of it with 30 years and I'm going to try to put life on the back. So right there in my mind it told me like, I didn't expect the judge to be lenient, but I expected him to be fair. Right. I went through this trial and you see that I didn't know they were police. I thought I was going to die that moment. I take that into account.
Starting point is 00:46:12 And like I said, I'm not saying get off Scott Free or show me favoritism. Just be fair. No. So to me, when I heard that, he doesn't care if I'm the one that shot the cop or not. Because I'm not even the one that shot him. A cop got hit in his cab. they had to have shot him because it went through his calf sideways
Starting point is 00:46:30 but he said he was facing my door with a shield and they didn't say officer down until I had already stopped shooting I was been stopped shooting I'm in my bathroom trying to figure out what the hell is going on how many times did they shoot through the door
Starting point is 00:46:44 48 48 times they found 48 shell cations on the outside of my door and I showed you the picture of the door so you know it's not bullshit right So, in all this, my thing is, I know the cop.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I rode motorcycles with him. There's something before this happened. I bought him lunch. Right. So why would you, like, be a man about it. Like, I wasn't doing anything wrong. I got to see if I was in the street menacing or. So I'm in court.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Then he goes, listen, they got it down a 16 flat and I didn't have to cop out to nothing that had to do with police. I copped out to a regular attempted murder. So they made him a regular person. Okay. Coped out to the attempted murder of his name. And that was a 54 count of diamond.
Starting point is 00:47:35 That's the only thing I coped out to when I got 16 flat. Because they won't let me fight it. And the same judge that signed the warrant is my trial judge. Oh, that seems like a conflict of interest. He shouldn't have signed the warrant to begin with. But they don't, what I think happened, think they don't want all that to go into the media, them not have, especially with the temperature stuff right now,
Starting point is 00:47:59 them not having body cameras, me not being on the rowing. If I would have died, it would have been something totally different. Everybody would be rioting and protesting, Breonna Taylor, this, that, the third. But because I lived, now it's basically their word against minds. And they're not, you don't see it in the paper all the time. There's never been a cop in my court date. You spit on a cop up here.
Starting point is 00:48:19 And they're in the courtroom every day with supporting, For, there's never been a cop in my court date. And I don't have no problem with authority. I have friends that are detectives that still check on me to this day, like, you're all right? That if I'm, if I text them, well, what you're doing? You're going to work. I'm going to be careful with the streets is nasty out there. Like, I'm, I'm under the same impression as a judge.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Somebody normally shoots up police. They deserve to be in jail. Right. What are we talking about here? Like, but that's not the case with me. What do you think the judge, I mean, I don't understand why is the judge, why is he so adamant when he knows you, he knows you didn't shoot him on purpose. If you shot him at all, he knows that they were in your house. They weren't saying, or are they saying different?
Starting point is 00:49:10 Oh, no, we said police. They said that they announced himself. Well, first, the first reports were that I ran to the door, opened the door, seen it was them, closed my bedroom door, and then started shooting through the door. That was the initial report. Then it got, because I got shot in the same leg that my knee was blown out. Then they found out that my knee was fucked up and I couldn't run. So then it went from that to, oh no, we announced ourselves. The house is a two family split in the middle.
Starting point is 00:49:40 So on the upstairs level is my bedroom, a bathroom outside of my bedroom. My bedroom has a bathroom inside of it also. But outside of my bedroom is my bedroom, a bathroom. On the other side of the hole, it's a bedroom. and another bedroom that faces my door. So on the other side, it's a mirror image of that house because, you know, our two claims are split in the middle. So there's a, my neighbor's a Chinese family.
Starting point is 00:50:10 I don't know the kid. I don't know, I don't know the high and by. I'm super cordial. I don't have no problem with nobody. He, right after the shooting, the police took him to investigate, took him down, questioned him, and they asked him, well, what did you hear? He said, I heard two bangs that sounded like gunshots. So I get up. He's in the back bedroom in the back of the house, which is adjacent to the bedroom of my friend.
Starting point is 00:50:35 He said he walked through the hallway up to the front bedroom, which is adjacent to my bedroom, his parents' bedroom, and he looked out the window, and he saw it was cops. That's how, there was cops outside. That's how he knew it was cops. And then the shooting started. They asked him specifically, did you hear any talking or yelling? anything he said no I didn't hear anything so you heard them hit the door why wouldn't you hear them screaming police like they're saying oh we were screaming police NYPD they never said anything and on top of that what am I what am I shooting at a cop for right I'm not doing anything wrong there's no drugs in my house I'm not in the street no more it's not like I got 50 kilos in here that I'm trying to protect and I'm going to get life.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Where's you going to get is a pistol in my house that I'm using to protect my house. Like I said, I'm big on accountability. The last time police came in my house, I opened the door for them and ask them what they want to call for you. It just doesn't make any sense. What motive do I have to shoot it, knowing that they're police? But the judge doesn't care. Nobody cares. Nobody cares.
Starting point is 00:51:45 That's what I'm doing, those black guys, isn't it? So you get the plea down to 16 years. 15 flat with five years post release. So 16 years with pro and probation after that. Poloian. What do you guys call it post release? In New York is post release supervision. They worded like that for purposes of time because before, when it was parole,
Starting point is 00:52:12 if you come home and you get locked up and you're inside fighting your parole, whatever the case may be, and let's say they give you a 90 days or a year violation that year could count toward your parole that's why they were to be post release your feet have to be in the street for it to count so you need to have five years or feet in the street but they cut it short if you get if you don't give them no violations they give you a merit termination that's why I got on my last one at three years post and I got off in no I have five years in my last one and I got off in a year
Starting point is 00:52:50 so did you sign have you signed for it or you took the deal i took the deal i had to i had to they said as soon as you bringing this first juror the deal's up the table and i can't beat the judge if the d would have said that i would have still went to trial right but if the judge himself was deciding on what time i get i can't beat him right i can't beat him um um uh so but you're out now How long did you sign for? How long ago was this? August 26th. And you're still out.
Starting point is 00:53:27 What are you, did you, have you kind of like put it off or? No, so once you cop out, they have to do a probation report. They have to do a couple of stuff and they give you a couple months to get your affairs in order. Like I saw a doctor's appointment.
Starting point is 00:53:40 I have a doctor's appointment coming up in January. I have court in December, but I have a doctor's appointment in January. So I'm to see if they can push it back talking about my doctor's appointment because I still want to see my surgeon because I have to get the surgery on my leg when I came on.
Starting point is 00:53:51 I touched you in my shoulder when I came on. So I want to get all that taken care of because I'm going to be up there for 10 more years. Yeah, do you get, you're saying, you keep saying 16 years flat. You don't have any good time? Yeah, so I took 16 flat. Out of 16, you do 13. You do 160 months. Out of that, I've been on house.
Starting point is 00:54:16 I did a year in before I built out. And then I've been on house arrest for two years. So that's 36 months less. So I have to do 124 months. So I got to do 10 years. Okay. Who's going to take care of your dog? My sister, who took him when I got locked up last time.
Starting point is 00:54:33 She didn't want to raise him. I had him when he was five months. And then she had him for the whole 11.5 months that I was gone. Did you sell? Are you selling your properties? Are you? No, those are my cousin's properties. I was just married you went.
Starting point is 00:54:45 So I got shot. And my other dog that I had got shot and he died. The bulldog that I rescued What is your buddy saying about all this? The one you said you ended up He was like, holy shit, or was he? When he came out the room, I'm on the floor already handcuffed When they took him out the room
Starting point is 00:55:04 He came out of the room and he's like, yo, they just started shooting. Those are the first words out of his mouth because they was walking him down in step. And what else can he say? Sorry. I don't blame him because he didn't do anything in my house.
Starting point is 00:55:19 house. And it's on paperwork that he never sold drugs out of my house. When I say they ransacked that house because they were trying to look for things to try to tie me to any type of drug involvement, anything, there was nothing in the house. But they, they violated that house. I'm talking about broke walls down, floors, ceilings, every vent pulled every vent out. They was looking for anything, for anything. Took all my jewelry, didn't voucher none of my jewelry, took money, Then they only voucher $87,000 of money that I had an hour. They just, they just do what they want. Yeah, I, so I had a guy I knew locked up in prison.
Starting point is 00:55:59 His name was, his last name was Junior. It was, they called him Junior. He was in Atlanta, and he was a part of a drug kind of, it's really not a task force, but like a group of guys, right? Mm-hmm. And they were big on no-knock warrants. And the way they would get the no-knock warrant is they had actually had CIs that were certified C-I's. So this is the C-I that has helped us in the past get convictions.
Starting point is 00:56:30 So his word is certified. It's good. It's gold. Right. Right. So they go to him. So here's what happens is they would, and Junior did this for 10 years. So they would pull people over.
Starting point is 00:56:46 They search your car and they'd find $40,000, whatever. And they'd just take it from you. They're like, you're a drug dealer. I'm just going to take it from you. And they don't even had it. That's what they're going to say. Who's the same thing you even had it? Right.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Right. And so, of course, what he said was a lot of times, like you'd find like half a key or something and, you know, 20 grand. And they'd be like, look, you know, here's what we can do. Because they'll convert the cash to drugs. Mm-hmm. So now suddenly, you. you have you didn't get caught with half a key you got caught with two keys because
Starting point is 00:57:20 we don't convert the cash the drugs you got caught with two keys you're getting 20 years or we can take the cash we can turn in the key you'll get five years as long as you don't mention the cash yeah you want to go on it's like yeah you want to get five years you want to get 20 you're not getting it back it's gone either way and they they they but if you fucking say that we took the cash you know what i'm saying like it's going to be a problem oh no no no no take it take it like these guys be like take it so they take it and they would also like one time he said they got they busted somebody pulled somebody over um he has a key they start where's the money where's the money where's the money and and they're like it so basically they're they're like they eventually
Starting point is 00:58:05 figure out where he lives go to his house on a no knock warrant go inside the house find a couple a couple hundred grand or hundred grand whatever it is take the fucking money and then say i didn't we didn't find nothing so we only got him for a key or a half key quarter kit whatever it is so he was saying that like oh we were rob him you know he was like we were rob people for 10 years 10 years so here's what happens is one day they pull somebody over they grab the guy and they're like where did you get the drugs from he's got like a fucking half a key or something a key whatever they're like where'd you get it and the guy says you know if i tell you where i I got it. Can you let me go?
Starting point is 00:58:44 You tell us where you got it. We're going to take the drugs, but you can walk. And he goes, okay, here's the address. Gives them the ad, you know, 3017, you know, North 14th Street, whatever. Okay. And so they then go to the certified CI and they say, we need you to sign this saying, you've bought drugs from this house. He signs it.
Starting point is 00:59:08 They then take that and they go to the judge. They boom, this guy's bought drugs a bunch of time. He's a certified CI. You've signed off on him before. He just bought some drugs. They have the drugs. And the judge says, okay, no problem. They sign it.
Starting point is 00:59:23 He signs it. Got it. Rubber stamp it. Yeah. So 11 o'clock at night, they go to the house. This is in Atlanta. Go to the house, bad neighborhood. They go to the front door.
Starting point is 00:59:36 They pry open the front door. So it takes some time. You can hear them, bam, bam, bam, you know, cutting open the front door and and they're and then they kick in the front door and as they enter the front of the house they hear you know somebody shoots him bam bam bam was like three shots and they just a junior unloads on them um it was a 70 year old retired school teacher who woke up to hearing you know Bam, bam, the front door.
Starting point is 01:00:14 She grabbed, rolled over, grabbed her a little 22 or 38, whatever, so small, walked in the hallway, the shotgun house. You know, the hallway starts at the front door all the way that. She leans out to her. Stop. Do you know how fast you were going? I'm going to have to write you a ticket to my new movie, The Naked Gun. Liam Nissan.
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Starting point is 01:01:03 She fires, starts firing, and Junior unloaded it on her, killed her. Okay. So, you know, when. And by the time the cops show up, they've said, they've come up their story. She's a drug dealer. She's selling drugs. Drugs are being sold out of this house. We already have a no-knock warrant.
Starting point is 01:01:27 We got a certified, you know, affidavit. So they're saying all this, but Junior who goes to the hospital. Because Junior got shot, by the way. It hit him in the vest, but it was this part of the vest. So it didn't hit the plate. So it goes through his shoulder, right? It goes, well, or at least into his shoulders. He goes to the hospital, you know, and they stitch him up, whatever.
Starting point is 01:01:47 And he was such a fucking dirtbag, bro. Whenever you would say something like he would, I'll tell you later, but he was such a douchebag. Anyway, like, no remorse. So the cops get there. And very quickly, they're talking to the neighbors. And the neighbors are like, she's a retired school teacher. She doesn't sell drugs. the family's showing up
Starting point is 01:02:12 that's my mom what the fuck are you talking about yeah like the neighborhood's getting crazy yeah they're getting fucking riled up they're ready to this is a bad neighborhood this is a this is a an 80% 20% Hispanic 80% black neighborhood in Atlanta
Starting point is 01:02:28 and where this was 20 years ago where they're being brutalized and they ain't having it bro so there's they're you know and of course you know it's not like they're wrong they're not they're not you know what I'm saying like so I get it sometimes they get upset like oh you arrested this guy and oh you're picking on the on us but the truth is the guy's a drug dealer
Starting point is 01:02:50 like so shut up but this is a school teacher so they're trying to convince people no no she was selling drugs and obviously juniors realizing it's unraveling it's getting ugly right internal affairs comes in and and they realize something's wrong some of the very wrong. It's so overwhelming within a day or two. The feds come in. And they say, no, no, your internal affairs are not taking care of this. We think you violated this woman's rights, her constitutional rights. We think this. And that's a very, people think, oh, okay, so what? No, no, no. That's a serious fucking thing. They'll throw you in jail for 20 years for a violation. So it's starting to unravel. Junior, he's been around.
Starting point is 01:03:39 knows it's unraveling. He knows the whole thing's going to fall apart. He knows his guys are not going to stand up. They know the score. Junior grabs a lawyer, goes straight to the, because the first guy in the door is usually getting the best deal. All the town. He goes straight in and he says,
Starting point is 01:04:00 Junior gets three years in the state for, for what is it for manslaughter and he gets five years for violating her rights he keeps all of his money
Starting point is 01:04:22 he testifies against all of his co-defendants he tells you what they've been doing for 10 years and that's the deal and the feds go we'll take it like because we've got
Starting point is 01:04:36 Nobody so far is coming in. I'm willing to lay out the case. So he gives up, I want to say six, his six or seven partners, you know, in this little, this little drug, not task force, their little drug unit. And he explains exactly. Oh, by the way, by this point, it's about, I told you it's been about three, four days. He's out of the hospital, of course. But by this point, the newspapers are coming out. And one of the things that's happened is that the feds grabbed the CI.
Starting point is 01:05:05 and he's talking I don't know who that person They showed up They gave me an affidavit They had it I signed it What am I going to do These guys are telling me
Starting point is 01:05:14 They're going to send me to prison I've signed bunches of them That I've never bought drugs from So So Junior Goes in Takes the deal
Starting point is 01:05:29 And it was so fun This is what I'm saying It was so funny I would sit there And I would Because he would tell stories I'd be like dude you know this ever happened this ever happened you know i'd ask him questions periodically
Starting point is 01:05:39 and you know he would laugh about how this happened all right so what's the worst thing you ever seen he would be like oh god or the worst thing i ever seen listen to this like everybody told me they were chasing a guy one time um and the guy ran he was you know the bridges that go across the the highways right the overpasses overpasses right he said so it was this guy we're chasing him and he ends up he ends up pulling his car over and at the right there at the just as the overpass starts and he starts running he goes and i'm chasing him he said he runs and he jumps over the overpass because you know how it goes down on the side is thinking i'm gonna he's gonna go down and and be able to run down there and he's like there was a neighborhood not far away
Starting point is 01:06:19 that's where he's headed he see it runs and he jumps he said now keep mind as he's running he can see him look over and he keeps running and he looks over and he he realizes okay i'm almost to the point where it's dipping but he keeps running and then he jumps thinking he's got a few feet to the other side but by the time he got he had run too far and it had dropped down like 30 feet and as he's falling you know the fences well the fences have the posts and they stick out right sometimes right he said it was one of the older 1960 or 70s post that have a point on it He catches him in the back of the head as he's falling and yanks his head clean off his body. He said, I went to jump over it and he said, I jump over it and I have to grab onto the thing.
Starting point is 01:07:13 I realize it dropped because he jumped and now I'm jumping. Yeah, you got to go after him. Right. And he's like, whoa, whoa. And he's like, oh, he's like, I'm grabbing it. He was, but I wasn't that far. It was maybe 15 feet. So I was able to kind of hang down and drop down.
Starting point is 01:07:25 He said, at an anger or maybe somebody pulled him up, whatever. He said, I remember when we ran down there to find him. he said his head is on the spike he said he said two or three of us immediately started puking he's never seen things so horrific in my life anyway so i remember one time i was talking to him about this whole thing and i went i said uh he was complaining because keep in mind he got three years in the state and he was supposed to get five years in the fed they were running concurrently so he didn't have to go to the state he stayed in the fed the whole time go to the state he's a white cop setting up black drug dealers you can't go to the in Georgia
Starting point is 01:08:10 so he knew listen he's not he's not stupid um so what's funny about that is the state judge even though he had a deal when it wasn't the state judge it was I want to say was a federal judge the federal judge ended up giving him like six years or seven years a couple years more than he was supposed to get he's like yeah he's like he's like the fucking federal judge he blah blah you know this and this and he was supposed to give me five years and he never give me seven and i went you did kill somebody like that and he goes old lady like i know i know i go you did kill somebody and he goes he was she fucking shot me bro and i went you broke into her house like I typically don't push back I don't care you want to say okay whatever I'm not
Starting point is 01:08:58 going to get an argument you shot me and I go you broke into her fucking house he's where police officers I go she didn't know that this is you know what I'm saying and he sat there he's you don't understand I'm thinking no no I do understand you don't get it you're still they don't get it because they're cops but if you ask them if I was a tell like like I said I have friends that a cop family that's cop and I tell them the story none of them nobody that I know that knows me personally. When it happened, everybody said the same thing before even speaking to me. Oh, he probably thought it was getting wrong. That was one of my biggest fears when I was young when I was probably, this right before my dad got locked up. I was probably seven, eight years
Starting point is 01:09:37 old. They pushed us into our house in the morning when we was leaving for school. Tied me up, tie my little brother, tied my mother up, tied my father up and robbed us. This from, I used to wake up in cold sweats. You can ask my ex. Like, wake up in cold sweats, go look out the window. lay back down and I remember what I did the night before. Like that's how much, that's everybody's the biggest fear. Yeah. And I have cops that I asked them like,
Starting point is 01:10:01 yo, what would you do? They was like, yo, that person would be shot. If I don't know who it is in my house, it's 6 o'clock in the morning, it's still dark out. I'm just waking up. I don't even know what's going to. That first five minutes when you wake up, you don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 01:10:15 You're still like in your sleep state or whatever they call it. What would you do? Right. what would you do knowing what I know now I don't know I'm not going to I wouldn't have shot back if I knew that it was cops
Starting point is 01:10:28 but at the time with the information that I had at the time people in my house they're not announcing themselves I gave them ample opportunity to announce themselves what else is there to do
Starting point is 01:10:39 right what else is there to do and that's my thing like why do I have to go do 16 years because I thought I was going to die I'm not saying I shouldn't do no time
Starting point is 01:10:51 I'm not saying that I'm not saying that Right The thing is You want to punish me For illegal gun on house Cool Give me my couple years
Starting point is 01:11:00 My three four five Whatever you're gonna do But don't cheat me As if I'm some animal When what would you do In my situation What would you do And this around the time
Starting point is 01:11:11 This is 2022 When everybody's house In New York was getting broken into It was right after COVID died down There was no more money Everybody's getting robbed A friend of mine died three weeks prior to that seven minutes away from my house
Starting point is 01:11:23 from a home invasion and he got shot. So what am I supposed to do? Wait, acting a figure. They're not there to sell me health or life insurance or girls got cookies. 6 o'clock in the morning. They're in your house and they're not in a notch and so trying to be cute, try to be quiet and, oh no, it's not this though,
Starting point is 01:11:40 is that, though, hit that, that, though. What does that sound like to any normal person? Yeah. And now I got to go, like, I don't have no kids, but I'm going to, amazing uncle. You know what I'm saying? I have kids that I have helped raise. I'm my mother's caretaker because she's real sick now. I got to go
Starting point is 01:11:58 my family got to go do without me for 10 years. And I have no I don't have no violent charges ever. My shit is always drug possession. I don't even have no sales on my rap sheet. I don't have no assaults. I don't have no shootings. I don't have, I'm not a violent person at all.
Starting point is 01:12:18 So what's my, like what's the remedy for the situation and at the end of the day why did you need a know not one for what he didn't commit a violent crime what are you kicking even even if it was his house which it wasn't my name's out of the law
Starting point is 01:12:33 you didn't even tell the judge and give him an opportunity to be like listen we're violating this guy's rights because he didn't do anything wrong and it's his house but the other person is living there and he sold drugs away from the house there's no CI on on his case he was selling straight to an undercover
Starting point is 01:12:48 so there's no CI that met him at the house or seen drugs in the house or sale was made out of the house. No crime was committed in that house. So how can you just come and kick my door down? And now I got to go through 16 years when I wasn't doing nothing wrong. I went to sleep.
Starting point is 01:13:02 People say wrong place, wrong time. How was it wrong place? I was in my bed. I wasn't out of the club and whatever. I was in my bed sleep where I was supposed to be. Um, yeah, this is a bad situation. So it's like, I also understand that, you know, usually I would say like, well, you should have gone, you should have gone to trial, but you can't go to trial. Not with the judge saying that.
Starting point is 01:13:31 Like you can't, yeah, I couldn't even justify saying, well, you should still try. No, there's no. The judge has already told you he's going to fuck. He's telling you what he's going to do to you. I have a 54 count indictment. If I blow to three of the small charges, three of the A's or the Bs, I blow to three of the small charges, I could blow to one C and two Ds. I'm going to, I'm getting 30 years. right for what so we could get out of the news that they didn't have body cameras on because why didn't they have body cameras on
Starting point is 01:13:57 where is it justice for that where's the where's the repercussions for them because i'm it's not a feather in my hat that oh i got to shoot a cop like what i don't i don't sleep well at night i could turn my camera now i don't have any door on my bedroom the only doors that are in my house are the bathroom and my front door i cannot sleep with a door on my bedroom i can't sleep i will i will be up all night if the the door to my bedroom is closed. I cannot sleep. I had to take the door off both of my bedrooms. This isn't something that it's going to affect me for the rest of my life.
Starting point is 01:14:32 For the rest of my life. How old are you? 42. Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I look a little younger than that, but I'm 42 years old. I don't want to come home at 52
Starting point is 01:14:45 and have to do everything over again, lose everything, and have to come back and do it all over again. like I did that already everything that you asked me to do when I get off parole I did in spades you want me to get a job cool I got a job then I got a better job
Starting point is 01:14:58 got in the union start my own business wanting partners on another business was I was doing everything that I was supposed to do giving back to my community and now it's all taken away because you guys don't want to admit that you were wrong because had I not been wrong had they not been wrong if they had body cameras everything
Starting point is 01:15:14 they wasn't going to offer me no 16 years for shooting that file cop they're going to make me go to trial and blow my doors off and put me under one of these jails up here. That's what they're going to do. They're not going to they're going to let me cop out. If they were right. If they were right, if they did everything right and by the book, they're not offering, they're not letting me take 16. Yeah. So, but if they
Starting point is 01:15:35 had body cameras on and they had body cameras on, they would have went to the body camera, seen that they didn't announce themselves and I wouldn't be in this type of trouble. Right. You had had a gun charge. I would have a gun charge. A gun charge in the house. What was the gun charge? carry? Well, gun charge a loaded firearm in the house because I'm a felon, it would have carried the max is 15. Really? Because, you know, in the feds, like if I get caught with a gun, I get three years. If I, if I get caught with a gun and drugs, you get five years. Now, the problem in
Starting point is 01:16:09 the state is a gun charge in the house is a de-felony. Your max is seven. If you have no, because there's a there's an exception and it was it's 265 10 or something like that there's an in-home exception so you have a low you get caught with a loaded firearm in the house it's a D felony you usually cop out to E and you probably get a year the only exception to that rule is if you have a prior felony or if they're machine guns so because I have a prior felony it goes from a D to a C which is my max is 15 but the judge never does go if you get caught with a gun in the house and you're a felon never never is he going to give you 15 on cop out ever ever they're going to knock it down to a d
Starting point is 01:16:51 and you're going to cop out to a three or four or five and like i said i'm not saying i didn't do anything wrong i had a gun on now for protection of my home for protection for my home and you used it in in furtherance of protection of your home detection of my home as soon as i open that door the first words on my mom weren't for my for me get me an ambulance am i going to die I didn't say none of that. The very first words on my mouth were, I'm sorry, I thought I was getting rough. Is the cop okay? And this is before I knew that I knew him.
Starting point is 01:17:20 I didn't find that I knew him for a week and a half, but I seen him in the newspaper. Did he ever reach out to you? Never. He sold me. He's suing you? He sued me, he sued me, the landlord. The landlord? Yeah, he said he should have known about the criminal activity going on in the house.
Starting point is 01:17:38 But this goes back to there was no criminal activity going on in the house. Right. Yeah. He's not going to win. He's just soon. I don't even know. When my lawyers heard that he was soon and that they wanted an order of protection from, I have order, he has an order of protection on me. They laughed in court.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Like, where do they do this? Right. And where do they do this at? Well, yeah, I don't, you know, obviously I don't have anything good to say. There's no good. There's no good in this. There's no good in this. It's just, like I said, if, I mean, I'm going to keep fighting.
Starting point is 01:18:16 I'm going to put in whatever pills. I can put it in. That's another thing. They limit what you can appeal because I cop out. Right. So I can't appeal a lot of stuff. If I would have went to trial and got my doors blown up, then I can appeal the, um, everything, whatever. Also, I'm a felon.
Starting point is 01:18:36 There's a gun, there was two guns. Why? Why did the feds come? I have a previous gun from before and there's another gun found in the kitchen who my co-defendant wanted to exist that I don't even know about. They only offered him two years for the gun.
Starting point is 01:18:58 What did he end up getting total? He wound up getting, so he wound up getting six for the drugs fast. He took six for the drugs because he has prize for drugs for his drugs here. He took six off the bat, like a few months in. and then the guns in the house they was like well we'll give you two years and run it consecutive
Starting point is 01:19:18 and he's like no I'm not taking that I'm not I'm not going to take that so his lawyer wound up doing it to where he asked the judge well give him seven for the gun and run it concurrent so he gets a total of seven the judge said well I don't even know if I can give him that much
Starting point is 01:19:36 because they're not used to giving that much time for a gun in the house right So that's what he wound up again. He wound up taking the seven for the gun, the six for the drugs, and ran him together. He'll be home in like three years because he's going to go to shop. He'll be home in like three years. He just went in a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Can you think of anything we didn't cover? No. Can you think of anything we didn't cover that you want to cover? No. A little bit of a little bit of a little bit of, press for you but um i'm depressed myself i wake up every day thinking about it if i i would be able to deal with it better if i was actually still in the street because i can't get i can't get mad i got hit by a car from playing in traffic that's my saying right i'm in the streets i'm doing
Starting point is 01:20:25 it's part of the game this is not part of the game to me i was never going back to jail i was jail was a distant distant distant memory to me i'm not jail like i'm not going to be crazy what am i going back to jail for doing so good out here legally i was i was a And they can't take it from me then? What, what, like, what are we doing in? And now I have to go do the most time that I've ever done and I'm in the most show I've ever been in. When I was coping out,
Starting point is 01:20:50 because you know how you cop out when you go up there, you pick the, Georgia, you're going to cop out to and you've got to admit. T is coming down my face. Not because of the time. Because I'm admitting to something that I didn't do. Right. Admitting, that's what, it was tears of frustration and pain. Like, you're making me admit.
Starting point is 01:21:09 to something that I did not do. To this day, if I see one of these cops on the street, any one of the ones that was in my house, even the one that got shot, the one that's suing me. If they needed help, I would help them. Like, I would help them. If I see them in the street right now, when I'm walking down the street, I don't hold no animosity. It's not like I'm like, oh, fuck the police because it is, no, they have to do their job. It's a very sensitive job that they do, and I don't envy them.
Starting point is 01:21:33 I don't want to be a cop. Right. But just do it right. Be fair. like what why is your life worth more than minds again to this day I'm not like fuck the police I see them one of them outside right now and they need help I would and their life was in danger
Starting point is 01:21:48 anything they need a flat tie what this is the type of person I'm in anybody that knows me can attest to that the fact that I built out on a five million dollar bail me it wasn't my money this is 18 people donated money so you're telling me 18 people it's not it doesn't go like that that's a that's a testament to my character the the the
Starting point is 01:22:06 the carpsia when they were taking the money. And you know what you're doing? Like, yeah, we know what you're doing. And the clerk said, I've never seen on like this before. And there's a testament to his character. It's the type of person that I'm quick to give
Starting point is 01:22:17 before I take any time. So that's what hurts so much that it's like, it's just, it doesn't count for anything. It don't matter to them. Yeah. Yeah, I think. I think this is.
Starting point is 01:22:32 It's probably that got to be told because if not, it's for nothing. It's for nothing. and it can't be for nothing all right I think this is a good stopping place all right hold on a second okay
Starting point is 01:22:45 okay but do you have anything that you any place you want people to go or you know like a social media or anything no just no like I don't go fund me I don't got nothing
Starting point is 01:22:58 I don't like I said this shit just it's fucked up it's fucked up it's not fair nobody should have to go through it's like nobody. I don't envy
Starting point is 01:23:08 like they really need to and in the feds there's no knock more wouldn't have stuck the judge wouldn't they gave it to him because it's stricter now ever since Brianna Taylor but the states can do what they want that's why that this didn't go to the feds because the feds would have looked at it like there was no crime committed in the house why the
Starting point is 01:23:24 fuck did you get a no knock going right it's not his house and you didn't even bring up the person whose house it is but after the fact you said that you knew I lived there so why didn't you tell the judge that you know I lived there right so that's why they didn't that's why i think the feds didn't come to the feds like yo so do i think eventually like because you know how appeals work appeals when you get court in the state you got to go through the two state appeals get denied and then appeal to the supreme court
Starting point is 01:23:49 i think once it gets to the feds i'll be heard more than in the state court i think i'm going to get denied on my appeals on the state court i think we'll have to wait until it gets to the federal circuit and then i'll get some traction but by that time you know how the how appeals work two years each one. I'm going to have years in. Yeah. So, but it has to be, it has to be told because, like I said, this is, this is unacceptable. This is unacceptable. And it's the scariest shit I've ever been through in my life. I went from dead sleep to thinking I was going to die. I'm in a room and 48, you saw a picture of my door, 48 shots coming through my door, whizzing past, literally whizzing past my head. I don't know to this day how I only got shot once. Had no close. I had no close. because I went from one side of the door to the other side of the door. How I only got shot once, I have zero clue. Zero clue. Hey, you guys.
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