Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Inside The Mind of a Car Burglar | Criminal Confessions

Episode Date: May 19, 2024

Inside The Mind of a Car Burglar | Criminal Confessions

He's telling me, Chase, if you don't tell me where you're at, we're going to send the helicopters and the dogs for you. I have my pockets fooled up with stolen merchandise. This is going to get a lot of people of probably not liking me for this. But I was born in West Palm Beach, St. Mary's Hospital, 1996, February 10th. I immediately wanted to know his mother's main name. What do you do? Oh. You can steal someone's like, now I can get your birth certificate.

I mean, what are you doing? No, I mean, you could try. I mean, I'll get it all back because I am actually, you know, the only one. Finally moved to Georgia, actually, when I was about 10 with my mom. She found some dude, you know, so we just kind of went up there and checked it out. Ended up living there for about five years. What about your dad? Where was your dad?

He was in prison. Oh, okay. For what? He actually never told me. Are you? Right. He never told me. He's like, Chase.

We need to find a. out. Well, he's like, he's like, Chase, I'll tell you when you're old enough, you know. And so yeah, so now he, you know, he passed away when I was 17. Oh, sorry. No, it's okay. He passed away when I was 17, so I never really got to hear the story from him, you know. Do you don't know what his charges were? Does your mom? It was burglary stuff. Yeah. I think he told me some story about how he robbed somebody for, had a bunch of weed or something. He was running from the police, and he broke into some house. They were having a, like, it was a bunch of Mexican people, Spanish people, and they were all having a party. He tried to just, like, blend in, you know.

Oh, goodness say that was a stretch. He was trying to blend in because he, I guess he, you know, he was running from him, and he didn't really blend in so well. That's all I really heard. You know, my dad, as far as my dad and my uncle go, my great uncle, actually, he was on America's Most Wanted back in the 80s. Yeah. And he had a brother that was in the CIA, supposedly. That's what my dad told me. And the time when my dad told me this story, you know, I remember I was like 10 years old. I was laying in my bed and he came out and he was all paranoid. He's like, oh, you know, they can watch us right now through the blinds and stuff, the satellites. I'm like, what are you talking about?

So he told me a little bit about the family history and stuff. So I know that people are constantly like just watching me, just checking up on me, make sure I'm doing good. I was actually on a terrorist watch list I found out. Why? I think it was due to the gun charges when I was 16. It's like a red flag. You know, anybody that commits felonies as a juvenile, they tend to, I think, watch them a little bit. So your dad was in prison. So your mom hooked up with a guy. You guys ended up going to Atlanta. I moved up to Georgia. Middle school, I guess I was in fifth grade when I moved there. I was a good kid, you know. I did all the things I was supposed to. I think once I was around seventh grade, middle school came around. I started getting ISS a lot. I started getting in trouble. I was stealing stuff from

the stores and stuff like that. I was doing actually one time, one of my friends, he had a younger brother. I don't know if people are going to like this too much, but he had a younger brother. And so he was one of my good friends. He's actually Ukrainian. Shout out to Peter. But But he, I, I would take his brother. I'm like, hey, Manu, let's go up to the store, man. I put a backpack on him. And I would just dump a bunch of candy and stuff. Like, he had a hoodie on and then a backpack underneath the hoodie.

I was in like a seventh grade. I was stealing a bunch of stuff from the gas stations and selling it at school. But I've always been a businessman ever since I was in elementary school. I don't know if that qualifies reselling it. I know, but I've always had the mentality of like trying to, you know, get something out of nothing. Right. You know, the little opportunities. I mean, when I was in elementary school, when I was living in Stewart, I would stop cars in the middle of the street.

I was like probably six years old, seven years old. Hey, I would stop getting a, hey, stop. Do you want a car wash or you want some lemonade? Yes. Okay. Pull it over. No. Keep it moving.

Right. And so that's kind of where I learned, you know, like, hey, you just got to talk to people and ask them what they want. And, you know, there's a lot. There's a big market. So, and then middle school, yeah, I started selling candy. and stuff like that, like gum for like 50 cents apiece or something. High school, I got expelled. For what?

Well, I was always always the businessman, you know, so I just had the wrong product. And I was in 10th grade. I remember I was in a law and justice class. And I just got off the bus. I think I sold like a middle school or something, some, like a little bit of weed. I think I just gave it to him. Bus driver holds me up.

He's like, hey, sit down. He calls the principal. He's like, hey, this and that. Whatever. He told him that he thought I might have had something on me. Before I get to class, I'm like, hey, I go to all my friends. I'm like, hey, can you hold this? Hey, can you hold this?

And basically when finally the principal came and got me 10th grade, and I had a list of people. Because I would be like, hey, you know, do you want a gram or whatever? And, you know, the principal, he didn't find any weed or anything on me. But he found the list. Okay. And so he's like, what's this list for? And I said, well, those are video games.

People owe me video games, you know, because I had like the G next to it. Right. And he's like, no, I don't think so. And so he's like, he got the sheriff involved. And then, you know, the sheriff, I was, I was, like, 14 or something, 15. So the sheriff was like, hey, you know, just tell me what's up. So it doesn't have to be, like, the school sheriff, the school. Yeah, yeah, the, yeah, the, what do they call those?

The resource officer? Yeah, resource officer. And he was a scary looking guy, man. You didn't, I wasn't going to lie to him. I was like, look, man, it's not a big deal, right? Like, I guess it is at that time. I mean, it wasn't legal and stuff. So, yeah, he says, well, just show me where it's at.

And, you know, everything's good. So I won't press charges against you. That's what he told me. Yeah, he's like, show me where it's at and we won't press charges. My mom wasn't there. My parents weren't there. And so I hit it. I had before the principal came and got me that day, I remember I had one little bag in my pocket still.

And I went to the trash can. And you know how you put the trash bag over the trash bag over the trash? Yeah, yeah. so I hit it right in like the cuff kind of right and so I I told him where's at I went back to the class I gave it to him I didn't want to make a big deal with the dogs and stuff I knew I was in the wrong you know I accepted responsibility hey you're caught you know so um I I told them and then they expelled me right yeah expelled me I can't believe they lied to you I know I can't believe that um so what happened when you got expelled did you do you get moved to

another what's your mom say she came in she was crying she was crying she She was hysterical. I mean, she came in and she's like, oh, Chase, I felt so bad. You know, I was like, man, you know, I felt really bad. And then I got home and my mom and dad were living together when I was in Georgia. Yeah. So he was there. And he actually told me the night before.

He says, Chase, I don't think you should bring that to school with you tomorrow, you know, because I would tell my dad everything. Right. And he's like, I don't think it's a good idea the night before. And so I came home and he's like, I told you. You know, he's like, I told you not to do that. So what do you mean until your dad had gotten out of prison and was now living with you guys again? Yeah, so when I was 10 years old, when I was, we just were getting ready to move to Georgia.

He got home. My mom, I think, was like, nah, you know, she wanted to leave and she didn't want to be with him, really. She moved to Georgia. They ended up breaking up. My mom and the boyfriend ended up breaking up. And my mom was like, hey, do you want your dad to? I'm like, of course I want my dad to come around. And I'm like, yeah.

and so they got back together when I was like around 10 because he just got out around that time and so so then what 10th grade you're kicked out of school do you go to another school I did I went to alternative school for all the you know kids that have gotten in trouble and so that summer we actually ended up moving back to Florida so I mean did you stay out of trouble um well the thing was the school that I wanted to go to, they wouldn't accept me. They wouldn't accept me in the school. I guess because I had the previous charges with the, you know, getting expelled

from all Barrow County schools. The alternative school you went to wouldn't accept you? No, the alternative school did. They accepted me with arms wide open. All right. Our brethren. Yeah.

So the one you wanted to, they said no. Yeah. And so you had no choice but to go to the alternative school. Right. Right. So when I got expelled, I was, I went to the alternative school in Georgia. And then, you know, my mom was like, hey, we got to get out of here. The things we just, so moved down to Florida. And that summer, I was supposed to be going into 11th grade. And I tried, you know, we tried to get a conference. And when I, after I moved back to Florida, that's the school that wouldn't accept me. Because it was like, it was a big school, you know, and a bunch of kids. Where'd you go then? well um i went to jail well that's basically i felt like i didn't have an option what what you i don't understand it doesn't make sense i know you just because you can't go to the school you want to go or they won't let you into a high school i just felt like i wasn't accepted so you said what you pulled up to the local county jail and said look this is where i belong

no i didn't i didn't actually do that but i kind of felt like i felt like i didn't i didn't belong anywhere like you know right i felt like you know no schools want to accept me you know and i'm i'm what 16 years old and you know 15 16 for anybody's life and it's a big crucial crucial time you know my sister she's uh she's 16 now and uh so i'm making sure to watch her a little bit careful but um yeah um they wouldn't accept me there so i felt like i was like well where am i supposed to go i mean if the schools aren't going to accept me i mean so i just i just started getting in trouble i mean uh that's kind of where the mentality kind of stem from um getting in trouble how well it was all kind of stuff i mean we were just you know partying every day i mean drinking

um hot tub breaking going to the pools and the hot tub and just you know breaking into cars and um just trying to make money any way we could you know um yeah just moved down so i didn't really know anybody. I did have some friends that I did go to like elementary school with. I reached out to them and that's kind of how, you know, I started coming around and hanging out with everybody. But, uh, yeah, it was, it was tough. I mean, that transition, they're going to, uh, new, new county, new school, I mean, new people, new mentality. I mean, the people in Georgia are a lot different than the people in Florida. Right. How so? I mean, even if you go to like a McDonald's up there, the people in Georgia, they're like,

oh, hey, how you doing? Oh, good. Have a good day. You know, you go to the drive-thru down here. They're like, what do you want? 1450. Right. You know, they're like, I'm like, so it was just a big, I had to get accommodated to, to how things were down here.

You know, Florida is like its own, its own, it's own, it's own country, Texas and Florida. Did you see the movie, that movie yet? Which one? Civil War? No, I want to, though. It's interesting. Is it on Netflix? No, no, it's in a theater. It just came out. Yeah. Just came out. It's pretty good. I've seen Leave the World Behind. No, this is about a civil war. Right. This is about Florida. This is about Texas. Well, no, it's California, Texas, and I want to say Florida, they break off, but Texas and California, like, join up and they start and they basically are attacking the United States. States there's a civil war they take over and it's all it follows the the what's on screen is they they follow some journalists who are trying to make it to Washington before what they call the Western forces make it to Washington so they can interview the president wow

before the Western forces get to Washington and basically take Washington super but it's you know it obviously I would have preferred it be a big budget film and it's not a big budget film you know what I'm saying like that's like it's like you got this is clearly two militaries or multiple militaries fighting so there should have been some great battle some great this but they didn't have the budget for that so they said here's what we'll do we're going to get we're just going to follow some journalists through small towns that we can easily get the the locations cheap yeah the journalists the actors cheap we don't have to have a bunch of people. Wow. And we can, while they're parked waiting overnight or camping

overnight, we can hear the battle going on. We can hear the, periodically they'll drive by a tank or a crashed helicopter. So these are just minor props. You know what I'm saying? So you know there's a battle. Right. You don't see the battle. You don't see the battle to the last probably the last 15 minutes of when the Western forces enter Washington and take the, they take the capital, but then they also go to the walk to the White House and they hit the White House. So, but super interesting. The problem is you never really know why.

You never really get a firm grasp of what the rift was, why these two states seceded from the union. And what happened? You don't know. You don't know who the conservatives and the liberals are. You don't know the liberals, the liberals, the guys in the white. And in the White House, you know, is that the United States? Or is it, you just never, you never get a firm grasp of who it is.

Huh, it sounds like a good movie. I've been wanting to see it. Yeah, it's super cool. Yeah, no, I think the time right now with everything, like, there's a lot of that. I mean. Oh, yeah, yeah. And listen, now on YouTube, you can spend a whole day just watching stuff. And there are so many people have come out about the movie and about just the political atmosphere in the United States.

states right now that there's actually a guy that 10 years ago he's like a historian yeah and he was a kid he came out with a video over I think it was over 10 yeah about I think it was 10 years ago about what would happen if you took the same states right now you refought the civil war who would win and he does a whole it's like a fucking 30 45 minute conversation yeah I mean not conversation, it's a 30, 45 minute video where he breaks down you know, what, why, you know, how it would, how it would play out,

you know, he can't guarantee it, but he's like assuming there's no nuclear weapons, assuming this, assume, you know, he's like, and there was actually a fight based on resources and military. So assume that these, that the Confederate states used their national guard. Yeah.

And the United States used their, their national guards, who ends up winning that fight? And he breaks it down over the course of 30, 45 minutes. And I mean, it's great. So he reposted it with a, you just kind of did a little monologue at the beginning. Like, listen, I did this 10 years ago. And people thought, you're crazy that would never happen. He's like, it's never been a better video than it is right now. I'm reposting it. He said, based on blah, blah, blah, blah. He reposts the whole thing. And you listen to it, you're just like, wow. And he was, he even explains. He's like, if it, 10 years ago, if you thought the numbers were right, they're even more skewed now.

So he starts explaining why he was even more right 10 years ago. So anyway. Yeah, it's interesting to see. I mean, who would actually, how that would come about. I mean, it's not too far off. Yeah, that's more the, that's more of what, you know, what is a catalyst that I was, you know, which he doesn't really, he kind of explains the landscape, but he never explains like, you know what's the first battle what would be the first because of course nobody can pinpoint

that so he just says look at some point if you realize that here's how the lines are drawn and they had to fight what would happen and it's so it's it's so it's super interesting man it's it's worth it's worth listening to yeah no definitely i know there's i could spend hours out there on that stuff too it's really addicting like watching all this stuff because everybody wants to know i get just talking about it yeah no it's exciting because you never know i mean you never know i mean I always say like every day you wake up and you open your eyes, you're in a new new world, right? Because while you were sleeping, the economy was continuing. Everybody, there was other people still working on things.

Things were progressing. Yeah, it might only progress five, six, seven, eight hours. But still, every time you go to sleep and you wake up, it's a new world, you know? And it's not like a... Well, it's being reported on 24 hours a day, every single minute of everything, every week, every month. Things are constantly changing. I know. When I grew up, you know, you figured out what was going on when the newspaper came out or at the 6 o'clock or 11 o'clock news.

That's it. Yeah. You didn't know what happened all day. You certainly didn't know what happened immediately. Like if something happens within minutes, somebody's making videos, somebody's this. It would be you get the newspaper and they would be investing in a story for three weeks that they're now telling you about something that happened three, four weeks ago or two days ago or seven days ago. nothing's coming out necessarily the next day even. Yeah, exactly.

It's days later, you know, last Monday, or unless it's a police report where the police are like they arrested someone for a carjacking or a home invasion and they report it. And then you get 100 words, which basically the cops wrote. So if it's an actual report on something that's happening that's serious, it takes time. And now you have these citizen journalists and you're probably getting, in some cases, you're getting obviously skewed information from citizen journalists, but in some cases you're getting

more of the truth. Details, yeah. Well, I'm saying a more accurate version because you're going to CNN, they're shifting it one way. If you go to Fox News, they're shifting it one way, you know? They got an agenda. Right. Yeah. No, it's funny

you talk about them because I was actually doing a meeting with Fox the other day. They wanted to make me the weather person, I mean my AC company, make it the accredited AC weather whatever you know I've done commercials yeah I've done commercials with CBS or yeah CBS Fox I've worked with them I've worked with NBC too they've done an interview with me and wink news also just about AC you know the supply chain crisis and everything but yeah there's a couple of journalists that work with me and they they're great I mean they work they do you know

everything they say they're going to do. But, no, it's a crazy world. I mean, it's talking about how fast things come out and change. I remember when Kobe Bryant, when he actually got in that helicopter accident, I mean, I was at the beach. And I know this is kind of irrelevant, but I was at the beach and I got a thing. It was like one minute ago. It just happened.

Right. I was like one of the first people to know, I think. I mean, I wasn't there to like, I'm not going to repost stuff. Like, oh, guess what happened? You know, I'm not a news channel or anything. But, yeah, I thought it was interesting. I'm like huh and I found out like immediately off the Twitter or something you know they send you the information but yeah it's just I think we have too much

information right I think that's the problem is like we have too much information and you know we're not we're not designed like we're already starting to become cyborgs you know we already have an online version of ourselves right I heard someone say that I thought it was pretty accurate but well Elon must they just did that thing with the neurolink where they put it in the guy's skull and he can think about things and move things and that's yeah that's a little bit too much for me 50 what 40 years from now 30 years from now 40 years from now right everyone will have it yeah I know it's how do people live you know without this it's like how did I live without my cell phone

before you know people will say how did I live without I know my neural link I would love to have a flip phone I would love it but there's no way I can run a business off a foot phone right you know they set those things up so they're going to be used for generations. I mean, yeah, big, big companies, you know, have all that data on you. They know you better than you know yourself. Yeah, I always talk about that, the one where the, um, the girl, there was a, a girl, like a whatever, let's say a teenager living at home with her parents' house. She started getting stuff saying, you know, for like, um, you know, like a baby carriages or, you know, baby, whatever, uh, you know, milk, baby. And she's like,

Why am I? I keep getting all these ads for baby stuff. Yeah, they were targeting for baby stuff. And what had happened was based on her, the things she had been buying on Amazon, they had determined she was pregnant. And so, and then, so of course, a month and a half or two months later, she takes a pregnancy test and finds out she's pregnant. And it was because of foods she was buying, things, you know, that she was gaining weight. She was, she had bought a larger dress size, larger this, got it. Like, there were little, all kinds of little things that she had done, just minor things that made the algorithm realize, like, I think she's pregnant.

You know, not that it thinks she's pregnant, but it's like based on your purchasing, your purchases and the food you're buying, just people buy these items just before they start buying these items. So it started recommending these items. Not that it's thinking, oh, she's pregnant, but it knows, hey, in the future, you're going to want this and this. So it starts targeting you for that. Yeah. And so she realized at that point, like, holy shit, Amazon knew. Before she did.

Before I knew I was pregnant. Wow. I haven't heard that. That's interesting. I think it's interesting. It is interesting. I mean. You know, when you do it whenever you buy anything, you know, like I went to buy these phone

things on Amazon and it's telling me, you know, hey, you might also want these. Guys that bought that bought this and this and this, you're also going to need this. And it starts, you know, it's showing you all this stuff. It's like, God, I bought one product. Yeah. It's even like that with ACs, too. I go to like purchase an AC unit through carrier that's my I'm a carrier authorized dealer so I sell a lot of their product but they'll do that oh you bought a new condenser with an air

handler well you need some tie downs and float switch and thermostat yeah the algorithm I mean pretty soon it's I don't know what's going to happen I mean they're they're doing indie cars right now that are racing themselves I was watching a thing today where they were they had this these indie cars or maybe the Formula One I don't really know the difference the one where it's just the driver and the four wheels like what is that is that I'm not big on that stuff either I don't know I think it's Formula One though yeah so they they had built it out so it could drive itself completely by itself you're just watching they just turn it on and whom and they start going what's the fun of that I mean I guess it's safer I guess you're well

you're still watching the race which one of these cars is going to win it's like it's like the horse the new horses I I guess but I was just thinking like that's insane like that you're telling me that the race cars are going to race themselves but anyway so high school yeah so you started doing what so high school um not working out yeah no I wasn't working out I mean high school was why did you just go to another school one of these schools is going to accept you they have an alternative school down here yeah I think the problem was before we even got that far I was already I had detectives coming to my house and, you know, just about a string of, you know, a string of burglaries that happened in this neighborhood.

That you had nothing to do with? Well, okay, so what happened? See, so I remember one time, and this was over a couple months, probably six months. I mean, all this was going on. And detectives would show up, you know, from people that I was with, they would tell like, oh, yeah, I was with Chase, you know, because they would get caught and then, you know, I wouldn't get caught. They really never found me.

I wouldn't make sure. Let's go back. Yeah, yeah. How, those houses didn't fertilize themselves. No, the cars. You were there. Or the cars. Yeah.

Obviously you were there. So what happened? How did that, how did you come to the conclusion, hey, I need to go ahead and start, you know, grabbing cars? It was, one of my friends showed me out Noca Chobie. One of my, you know, I was got there. my uh it's rough yeah ok chobie my uh my wife's from ok chobie really yeah it's no picnic yeah it's very backwoods a lot of pickup trucks yeah so i um my dad he had a bunch of friends out there you know they kind of grew up out there so he had kids i mean i've known these guys since i was in diapers

you know and uh so i'd go out there hang out with them and it was always a big party over there you know so uh no story no good story starts off with you know i knew a guy in oka's at that point it's like okay so it's somebody's ending up in prison right yeah it gets pretty tough out there uh but um so i mean i was hanging out with them and they were kind of showing me they oh do this so i would i would take i'd bring it back to to jupiter you know because that's where i was living i was hanging out with those guys out there they were showing you what no they were because i would hang out with them and we like watch this you know they go run into a car they go run over to a car and just check and see if it's open and if it's locked you know they

just keep moving, but they'd find one that was unlocked. And when it was unlocked, I mean, they would just ransack, whatever, they could find, sunglasses, change, it doesn't matter, you know, anything that had some sort of value to it, they would take it, try to get rid of it somehow. I mean, I probably got my mom like 10 new pairs of sunglasses. I'm like, Mom, I love you so much, you know. I got these new ones for you. I'm trying, you know.

I'm trying to make you proud of me. but things worked out good but um so yeah i was they were a little bit of an influence um they were kind of shown me you know the ropes i guess you would say um so i would go back to you know where i lived in palmish gardens jupiter area and i'd be like hey listen guys like you know they're around playing a bunch of video games all day like asking their mom for money and stuff i'm like dude look i think it was really they said i was the mastermind behind it that i did get in trouble all the other guys didn't get in trouble they got off with probation or something i had a public defender but before we get there um yeah they uh i would i guess we would

be like drunk you know we'd be all just and we'd be like oh look that car look and we'd try to just open see if it was unlocked if it wasn't unlocked if we've seen something in there though they really wanted uh they just smashed the window right you know smash the window alarms go off it doesn't matter um so that's kind of that's kind of the big thing so one time though we were we were doing that and this like I said it was a span of six months and one time uh we found some guns in there and where in a car yeah car we found a pistol on a car um a shotgun and like two rifles that were imported from like Finland they had like thousand dollar scopes on them and stuff Could you see him when you saw the car?

No. No, you just. Yeah, because they were sitting. And come to find out, this guy was like a hunter. He would take kids with like cancer patient kids and go take them hunting for the first time. Of course, you know. My God. Jeez.

You bastard. Yeah. And he was in the courtroom on the phone, like, you know, making me look like just. I was like, I didn't know. Right. I just, it was our thing. We would just go around and whoever left their car unlocked. I mean, we would go to different neighborhoods.

I mean, one time we would go to, you know, this neighborhood this time. We'd go like 30 miles this way where all the, you know, the rich people lived. Right. And that was kind of just the thing we would do just to have some money to, I guess, beer money, beer money and, you know, pizza, whatever we, you know, we weren't saving it for our college education. There wasn't much really that we took anyways. I mean, those guns were probably the most important.

important biggest thing that what'd you do with the guns you guys you sold them or just you guys just all grabbed one and well it's funny actually i mean it's not funny but that night we took we had probably four guns on us that were stolen there was one night we we were all walking down the in abacoa down the sidewalk we all had a one of them had a shotgun the other guy had a rifle and we were just walking on the street with this i mean we weren't we didn't have them holstered or anything we were just like and if we see a car we just throw them on the ground That's a bad eyes, yeah. But I remember telling the detective because they found they were getting me.

They were, they wanted me to, I said, you know what? I said, yeah, I took the guns. And I was walking on the sidewalk. I said, I felt like Rambo walking down there. And they were like, yeah, we're definitely going to be watching him. But yeah, so we would take them anything, really. I mean, if it was any kind of goods, but obviously guns are a little bit more value than sunglasses or GPS systems or something. So what did you do with those guns?

Do you guys sell them? So, yeah, we would, that was our plan. We wanted to sell them. So we were kind of like, all right, who was going to buy these, you know? Who could we trust, you know? You can't trust nobody. Right. But so, you know, we came along somebody that he was a drug dealer, you know,

and so we thought he was like, okay, well, he's not going to say anything, you know. So we brought him over to the house, and we showed him our display. And he's like, yeah. I think he bought a pistol. I bought the pistol. I couldn't get rid of the rifles in the shotgun. I wanted too much money for him. But, yeah, he bought that.

The guy bought the pistol from us. And then I think it was like a couple months later, maybe a month later, he got his house raided by the cops, and they found the pistol. They knew it was stolen. They asked him, hey, where did you get it? and I don't think he hesitated to tell him where he got it from. And he knew you guys? Yeah, he was not like you knew.

It was like a friend of a friend. He knew exactly who you are. Yeah, he knew exactly who we were. Yeah. Although I did try to get rid of him with my dad, too. You know, he's not here anymore so I could talk about it. But I remember one night, I'm like, dad, and I'm like, listen, I got to get rid of these guns, man. And he was like, I had him in a trash bag underneath the bed.

and he's like well let me see him so i remember going with him we load him up in the car and we went to like uh some bar down in boyton i think and uh he's like oh don't worry you know just sit in the car and so this big this big swole black dude gets in the truck gets in the car and he's like i'm like dang i'm like dad you know him i'm like that's cool like you know it looked like uh like i don't know like just someone you felt safe with or something i don't know i was like cool you know so i was showing them. I was in the back seat and I was showing them. I was like, look, whatever. So I'm not too sure on what happened, but yeah, we would take those guns and we would try to get rid of them. You know, we didn't have a job. So the guy, the guy didn't want to buy him? I don't think so.

Okay. I don't think so. But I think, I don't know whatever happened to him. Before my dad died, he's told me that I think they went to Mexico somewhere. So maybe those guys got him down there somewhere. But, yeah, we would. take them and try to sell them we didn't have a job you know we were just trying we were just some kids just trying to so what what happened with the guy got the guy his house got raided and the the cops obviously come to you yeah so they came to us and you know when the when the cops come they don't ever tell you the exact like oh we're here because of this so it was a very beat around the bush type of thing they knocked on the door lightly and asked you to please come down

the police station no they would actually they sent a detective over to my house And he came inside. He's like, hey, can we talk to you guys for a minute? And my mom, you know, my mom, she's like, yeah, of course, you know, go ahead. And so we sat down and he was telling me basically, hey, you know, all these guys are telling on you. We know that you got guns and this and that. And, you know, your friend already told on you.

I think I had like three people that were with me. We were doing this together. And he's like, you know, your friends are already told on you and this and that. I'm like, well, whatever. So he would come by like periodically just I don't even know how or why or thinking back on it. I'm like, you know, I've never like if he had something, why wouldn't he just arrest you? Exactly. Right.

Yeah. And that's the part I didn't understand. I was I was young, 16. And he was just trying to build a case, you know, because they knew that I was I was affiliated and I was responsible for it. And, you know, so they were just slowly trying to be to. you know build this case up against me uh i remember one time real quick i was just a story one time we were um we were i was car hopping that's what they call it right car hopping and um i was with somebody new that i never really we never did this before together but he seemed like he was

cool you know like i could trust him or whatever and this was the old chase you know this i'm nothing like this now you know like this i'm young i don't know what that i don't even know what is like anything you know like um and so i he's like yeah man let's go da da da da and so we go and i think we were drinking we got some bud wisers you know before his mom bought us some bud wiser out i was more of a bud light platinum kind of guy but uh but i mean now anyways uh yeah that's probably not but um yeah that was 10 years ago so we would you know we would drink and then we'd be like all right let's go so i think it was like our first 10 minutes we were out i come around i just got out of a car i'm looking through a bunch of mail

trying to find because sometimes people will leave their money in the mail you know and this and i'm walking around the corner and i see nothing but red and blue lights and i'm like oh shit and i see him they got him bent over the hood of the car in handcuffs and i'm like nope so i just took off running. I took off running down Abacoa golf course down there. And I hid in these bushes, right? I hit in these bushes. And I remember hiding there and I was on Facebook because I was just trying to kill some time. I was on Facebook and people were posting like, why are all these cops and Abacoa? Why are they? What's going on? And Jupiter like, there's cops everywhere. And I'm just like, oh my God, this isn't good. And so I guess.

a phone call from my mom right because i i just i thought you were going to say from your buddy saying hey buddy yeah right yeah no he he did it better than that he just told him straight out yeah yeah yeah and jays garlinghouse um so i get a phone call from my mom and i answer it thinking it's my mom and hey this is detective so-and-so with jupiter da-da police and i'm like phone call off my mom's phone because so i knew instantly. I was like, oh, he told him who I was, because how would they get to my mom? Right. And I was like, I said, officer, what's going on? You know, I'm at my friend's house just hanging out. What's what's going on? And he's like, well, we want to speak to you. I think, you know, you're involved with some stuff. And I said, okay, sure, where are you at? I mean,

what's going on? And so I'm on the phone with him. And as I'm on the phone with him, I have my pockets fulled up with stolen merchandise and all kind of stuff. And I'm just digging a hole basically in the ground next to me so I can come back later. I'm emptying everything into like a dogwood with his bone, you know. And so I'm not bragging about this stuff at all either. I just wanted to tell everybody the story of, you know, how all this transpired. All of this is wrong and Chase feels very bad about it. Absolutely.

He's not the same person. He's learned his lesson. absolutely yeah got it yeah check um but so i'm i'm i'm i'm emptying on my pockets and my plan is to just you know i was going to say by the way yeah there will still be at least 20 pricks in the comment section that are going to say fucker he's bragging about this he's bragging so i'm just it it doesn't matter what you say right or how you say it there will always be some asshole in the comment section. So the best bet is to just say it however you want. Because listen, if it were up to those people in the comment section, I would cry and beg for forgiveness throughout my entire

story. Right. And because I'm done with that. Yeah. And it was so long ago and I paid my debt and I'm done and I'm just telling the stories. That's it. Go fuck yourself. Yeah, exactly. You know what saying, yeah. Because that's really, I mean, you're just, who are you to judge me on the things I've done? You haven't done any, I mean, maybe you haven't gotten caught for the things that you've done, but. Or maybe you just had a better fucking upbringing, a better life, or maybe you were just genetically blessed and things just went better for you. Exactly. Maybe you had a horrible decision and made better decisions. Good for you. Right. Good for you. Yeah. Keep, just watched and listen. There's other shit on YouTube, bro. Yeah. There's millions of channels. There's other channels.

No, so yeah, I know there's always that guy, but hopefully, you know. So, yeah, we were, so I'm hiding all this stuff. You dug the hole. Yeah. You got your stuff. And I'm thinking, I'm like, all right, how am I going to do this? Like, so I call my dad, right? I'm like, dad, come pick me up.

And so he gets in his car to come pick me up and sheriff's got behind him or following him. So he's like, this is like, this is like. Yeah. I mean, I felt, I thought, too, I was like, so the guy on the phone, he's like, if you don't also a pretty ritzy area that you're in, right? Yeah, it's like, I don't have a lot to do. Right, exactly. Yeah, there's only kids like me come around every once in a while. So they definitely want to make the example, you know, and they did. Um, but, um, yeah, I called my dad and

he's like, no, Chase, I can't, I can't come get you. Uh, there's two sheriffs behind me. And I said, okay, well, I aren't, no problem. So I'm like, all right, I'm going to run to my friend's house because he's right down the street so i jump out of the bushes i'm still on the phone with the officer i got him on mute he's telling me chase if you don't tell me where you're at we're we're going to send the helicopters and the dogs for you and i said i was like well uh no i'm at my friend's day yeah what you're talking about they're ready to display their their assets we're calling the national guard right what are you doing yeah i didn't hurt nobody you're gonna pick me up i promise yeah exactly i'm right here what's going on i'm on the phone with you and so um i um i

jump out of the bushes and I'm running I got him on mute so he doesn't hear me running and I'm running on the street and there's there's cops going I know there's going to be a cop that's seen me because it was just flooded with police and so finally when I seen one that was coming I just played I just acted like he pulled me over he's like what are you doing I said oh I'm on the phone with the sheriff right now he wants me to meet him he wants to talk to me So I'm actually walking on my way back to the house so I can talk to him. I just left my friend's house. And they're like, okay.

So they detained me and they searched me. I didn't have anything on me. They knew. They knew. And so they called my mom. My mom came and picked me up as a juvenile. They had no probable cause evidence, nothing. So, I mean.

Right. You call it that guy. Yeah. Like I don't have anything on me. Right. Like I was, was I with him? You know, I saw him. did he go break you know we talked he went broke into a fucking car yeah why are we talking right and

that's the thing i was like yeah we hung out earlier but that he went on his own way and you know when you're young you just don't process all that you're i think you're just emotional or something but yeah i mean he's like okay well you know put me in the back of the cop car and just detained me for a little while and they didn't they couldn't do anything so they let me go and um what's your mom say she was just like she you know she's just like chase like what's your dad say you're I know your dad said your dad said nice I like I like how you're doing how you're working yeah he's like you're making the family proud now like where your heads at yeah I like where your heads that which the stuff right yeah and we actually went back me and my dad went back later

and got all the stuff yeah that's it or it wasn't that it was like a couple days later but they had no idea that I was in the bushes you know hiding from them the whole time and that was one of the times where it was a pretty close call and I do not miss that for anything man I mean that right I mean what I'm doing now is just it's very stressful and stuff but I think anyone out there that that thinks that stealing from people and robbing stuff it's just it's only a matter of time right right before you actually actually get caught mean these people get paid by the by the government to you know sit there and make sure that this doesn't happen.

I mean, listen, I, I, every, every, every insurance claim I've ever had, I've made money. Yeah. I always jack up the claim. Always, you know, they got two laptops. They got a flat screen. Right. They got, I always, so if they broke in and they actually grabbed, like, you know, a cell phone, doesn't matter.

Right. There's still two laptops they got. So to me, I don't mind a good burglary coming home and I can call, I can call the cops. I can go, as long as I have my. my homeowners or your car insurance somebody knocks the window out you can say hey i need a report they had my laptop was in there yep i had a printer you had a printer in your car i had a printer in my car yeah i have a receipt for the printer happens to still be in my house but they got this they got this like i keep all my receipts yeah yeah yeah i just got hit i got clipped they got me they got me

yeah it happens especially i mean you got to make it worth it yeah yeah i mean it's not yeah and in cell phones i mean and sunglasses and change i mean that's not sunglasses and change in in my case turns into laptops yeah a computer they got a they got a they got a pistol they got some cash what's the top that i can claim for cash five hundred dollars they got five hundred dollars in cash yeah they got i mean you know you got to know what you're doing like i'm paying my premiums yeah so i that's the thing with the insurance man i mean it's for the insurance and i feel about that too by the way well yeah you feel bad right i'm i feel bad that's wrong yeah it's wrong and you know you learn but it's like we're humans at the

end of the day, you know, and we have to learn. And sometimes we have to learn the hard way. There's not someone there saying, you know, if you did this, this is going to happen. You know, we're just trying to figure it out for ourselves, right? Well, I'm thinking your dad didn't do a lot of that. Yeah, well, he wasn't around. When he was around, he wasn't a good influence. No, he probably wasn't a good. He was a good dad. I mean, I love my dad. He was great. He showed me how to be a man, you know, like how to, how to stick up for yourself and you just don't take, you know but that other side of it is you know he had a criminal enterprise you know my family his uncle still in prison now and just he would tell me stories and story i mean when he was

he was like both my my dad and my uncle i think they dropped out elementary school they didn't even go to school you know where's your uncle he's in zephyr hills right now correctional yeah yeah my god he's been in there since i got out actually 2014 and I mean he's probably been inside longer than he has been outside you know jeez yeah yeah I went to go visit him probably a few months ago me and my cousin and uh you know he's got tattoos he's always had tattoos of head to toe well he only he's got the left side of his body tatted because my dad was left handed that's what he says he's like I just did the left side because he's got g house on the back of his head he's got gee I mean he's bald head I mean he'd be a great bodyguard for

me when he gets out you know but yeah it's um he my dad he tried his best he he did what he knew how to do right i think you know he tried his best he really didn't want me to go down that path and he's seen me starting to go down it and i think he felt very he felt really bad about it and i think that has something to do with why he passed away i think because okay he died a day before my 17th birthday and they never found his body. Yeah. What? Yeah. How'd that happen? What do you mean? Well, Andrew Carnegie Hero Fund Commission. They gave me an award for, you know, they give out like one a year around the country. He saved two little girls out of the Palm Beach Inlet. So it was him and his friends and the girls got caught and they were playing on the rocks or something. They got caught in the

water and so he jumps in to save him him and his other friend jumps in to save him and so they got the girls and everything they got him on the boat but for some reason nobody grabbed my dad you know and they just like washed him drown basically i think you know i was i was in juvie at the time what was is this like a a rip current or okay yeah he got caught in the rip current that's what they say but i just had somebody ohby you know what rip current is okay fine colby knows with that Yeah. And so actually I had a missing person unit detective called me like a month ago about my dad. Yeah, 10 years ago this happened. I mean, they never found his body. And they were asking me questions like, you know, because they were just very like what happened. Like his, for the longest time, I thought he just planned this. Yeah. I'm, I was thinking. I thought he seems as possible. There was an insurance, uh, this insurance thing. I don't know how those little girls, you know, maybe it was. Well, one of them had the same. birthday as him they were young they were like they were his friend's daughters so they were how convenient listen yeah what's your what's your dad's first name edward listen edward they call him

i'm gonna listen bush i'm gonna throw my daughters in this rip current we're gonna have you swim in and like that's a pretty big well those guys are from ok chobie too that's the guys they'll throw their kids in for a good insurance job sweetie you just swim as good bush is gonna come he's gonna get you I know. And so I was, you know, I was in juvie at the time. And I'm thinking, I'm like, no, my dad planned this. Like, he just wanted me to get that $2,500 from Andrew Carnegie and the full ride scholarship. You know, that was his way of helping. And I didn't have closure for a long time. I still don't. I'm like, what the heck happened out there that day, you know? And, yeah, I, it's a, it changed my life after that. I mean, I was 17, a day before my 17th

birthday the not finding his body would fuck with me for a long that would bother me that would bother me yeah because i would you're right i i could see like just you just never yeah um yeah and he was a very secretive kind of guy like he wouldn't tell me why he went to prison you know for the longest time right he wouldn't tell me anything i'd ask him come on dad you know i'm 15 now tell me was it state prison florida state prison oh yeah where was he arrested um see he was he would hang around Lake Worth area, Lake Worth. We'll order the Freedom of Information Act. We're going to find out.

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before video cameras and before all this technology. So the reason why my, my great uncle was on America's Most Wanted is because he's what you call old day cowboy. He would just run inside these trap houses where they're selling all these drugs. He would shoot everybody. He'd kill everyone yeah it would shoot everyone kill them all and take all the drugs and sell them for himself i guess that was what they did back in the day you know and so all like you shooting veterans you're not yeah these are these are standing citizens i met that guy one time i met that dude one time with my dad in macon georgia we went to macon to go see him he had like 10 dogs in the house he was on oxygen he had open heart surgery like three times 10 dogs through the house that he could barely even

walk and I was like what the heck is this guy got going on you know and he was actually married to a federal agent or something I don't want to say their name because I think there's still she's still working for the department or some some kind of agency but yeah very very interesting everybody likes a bad boy yeah they do don't they I know and sometimes it's just I guess that's all they knew that's all they knew how to do that was in the family that's what they did like this what you do man you know this right go to college we're gonna go to college for what you know so what happened so back back to your story yeah what what happened with um you the cops were coming by they couldn't find anything yeah and so what you said you know what i'm i'm re-enrolling in high school

i'm putting this behind me i'm going to clean up my act and no no not really no they i was it was more of a game at that point right i was like oh go let's see how far this can go like you You know, I was like, oh, yeah, you can't find me here. You can't get this. And it was, I had that mentality of just like, you know, we'll see what you got, what you're going to do. I really wanted to find out what was going to happen. Right.

You're going to find out. Yeah, that was my thing. I wanted to know because it was like prison was a thing in my family. Every garling house went to prison. Right. You know, and it was like kind of, I felt like I had to go, you know, just because it was. Ridiculous. What are you doing?

I know. I know. Yeah. And then you get there and you're like, listen, I'm, I don't know what I was thinking. And see, I was 16 at the time, so I didn't actually go to a prison. I was at a level six program, like level eight time. Well, what, what happened? Like, how does, what's the next thing that happens?

Yeah, so we're running around going crazy, breaking in everyone's cars. And I think the first thing that really happened was they, brought us in, well, I'll tell you what happened. This is what changed everything. Because I thought everything was good. I thought, oh, you know, just hanging out, whatever. One day, I'm playing video games with my friend, Louis. He's been around forever. We actually, our parents went to high school together. When I moved to Georgia, he was living there, and his mom and my mom went to high school and jupiter together so we were like we were homies you know me and louis but we we wouldn't we wouldn't do anything bad like that we would just hang out like go to the mall whatever um so

one day we're playing video games basketball 2k 12 or whatever and um my aunt she's at the house over in palmish gardens the townhouse she she's outside smoking a cigarette she comes in and she's like oh chase there's a lot of police out there you know they're like she's like oh i think they're coming for you just playing around right she's like oh yeah they're coming for you because she'd always mess with me like that like she'd see something ugly on tv and she'd be like chase what are you doing up there you know she's right um and she was just playing around and i'm like aha yeah right oh actually you know and i'd look outside and there's like pangy county sheriff jupiter just every there was probably 30 car cop cars just oh too just coming in hot

truck at the front of the neighborhood. I mean, I was like, okay, I don't think this is for anyone else. I don't, you know, I think they're coming for me. And so the guy, I look at my, they're all in formation, like an army formation outside. One guy's at the bottom of the stairs. One guy's like 10 feet away from everyone. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And that's, so I'm like, oh, uh-oh, they must have some sort of something, you know, because they're coming to get me. So they're not on the door my mom answers uh i come to the door i'm like hey what's going on man you know he's like chase he's like come out here and step outside with us please so i go out there uh i'm just playing dumb i'm like what are you guys doing like right and he's like um do you have any guns inside the house

and i said no i don't have any gun and i didn't and uh he's like okay well we're going to search it i guess he got a warrant that's probably what happened and uh they're like we're going to search it And so they searched it. They didn't find anything. They said, well, do you have anything you'd like to tell us, you know? And I said, no. I was 16. I said, I have the right to remain silent, right?

And he's like, you sure do. And he's like, now you're going to jail. Right. And my mom's in the background. She's crying. She's like, Chase, just tell him. Just tell them. You know.

I don't even know why I'm here. What am I telling them? I know. You tell them, you know what I'm going to tell them. I'm like, mom, what do you? She's over there crying hysterically. just please just tell them and so if i so i go down to the police station they they went to i went to the jupiter police station they held me there for like you know six hours or something and then um

i think they got the confession out of me there that's when they i lost it i just because they were they were stringing me like you know they know how to get that out of you right they get you very like i don't i can't even explain it but he got me so irritated that i was just like you think that you're so big and powerful i was like dude i'm gonna tell you right that's when i told him i said i did do it you you're right i was like you're right what is it that they had you they were were was it the guns yeah oh okay yeah he's like oh we got a video you here a picture you here smashing this window and this and that and i said that's not me that's not me and he's like well you know they basically had the had the case i remember speaking of my lawyer after this incident my public

defender and uh she's like yeah chase you just kind of like told him everything in the interview and I was like I didn't I didn't even care I kind of wanted to go I wanted to see how I was I was like this is what all the tough guys do right that's what I thought I was like I'm tough I'm gonna see what I'll tell them right now I'm not gonna lie to you you know I didn't even care I said yeah I took the rap for everyone you know I was like look I was the mastermind it's all my fault you know put me away for a long time what what happened with the guns Didn't you, what about, was that the, you called your dad? Yeah.

So it was like the night before. Okay. Yeah, it was something like that. And he took him. I think that's the night we went to the bar and everything, tried to get rid of him. But he had him. And I found out that we weren't, were we talking, did we talk about that on the podcast? Okay.

So the night before you had told your dad, like, I got to get rid of these guns. I got to get rid of these. And so your dad said, well, let me see what I can do. And he took them. Right. That's why they didn't find them. Exactly. Right.

And so they asked you to, like, Like, can you find, can you get us the guns? Mm-hmm. And you said, you said, yeah, you called your dad? Yeah, I called, I called my dad, you know, thinking, I'm trusting the police that they're telling me the truth. Right. My dad knew the deal. He's like, you know, he's like, Chase, I don't know what you're talking about, you know?

And I knew that he was a convicted felon, and if he got charged with a gun charge, he was just going to be out. Right. And Palm Beach County, they don't play about the guns and stuff. So he was just like, and I didn't even want to talk. I didn't feel comfortable. I knew kind of at that point, like, I'm like, I'm not really. right you know but so I didn't want anybody else to get in trouble man I really didn't I didn't want my dad to get I was just like look officer just charge me with it don't bring

everyone else into this stuff this is my you know like I influenced they said I was the mastermind but you know we we all have options you know it's not like I forced these kids the because there was other kids with me that were breaking into cars and stuff and you know they had free will but they they like the thrill of it too at the time And, you know, we had girls with us, and we were partying all the time, you know, just doing whatever, man. It didn't. Right. You know.

So what happened when, like, were you, did they let you out on bond? Yeah. So they actually let me sit on house arrest and fight this whole thing. So I sat on house arrest. So I, after the, they brought me to the sheriff's, um, Jupiter Police Department, they sent me to the Jack. That's what they call it, Jack. it's for all the juveniles it's like the tent is what they call it a 45th street right and uh west palm beach 45th street um and that's where all the kids sit so they i was in there my me and my codiff

friend one other one other kid that was with me he actually we kind of both went to went to do this together everybody else kind of got a lawyer he was riding it out with me i guess you could say right and um so we went to the tent sat there for a couple days i remember remember a guy because I'm like remember I'm 16 at the time and this guy comes to me and he's like Chase you know they have a meeting with you chase you know you're looking at 25 years to life I was like man come on man I'm not going to for life what are you talking about like there's no way and he's like these are first degree felonies you know they're going to direct file you as an adult and try you an adult court and I was like whatever like okay I know I'm not going to do

25 years though you know I was very arrogant back then right and um so he kind of put that that that fear in me and uh I remember telling my co-de-friend of Chris I'll say his name um I remember telling him like we looked at each other we like dude we we messed up all right we're like maybe this isn't good um and then from there we went to our first appearance everything um and then we were able to get out on house arrest. So I think actually, before we went out on house arrest, from the tent and 45th Street, they sent us to the gun club over in West Palm. And that's actually the jail. Right. And the juveniles are on the top floor. So we sat up there on the juvenile floor. These are all the kids that get tried as an adult. These are all like the worst kids, you know,

that got charged with the most heinous crimes. And I guess in the city, you know. So we were there for like two weeks and then we finally got out on house rest i remember i'll tell you one other thing we were there for two weeks i was so hungry man i mean you know if you had nike socks on oh man you were eating good you know dudes wanted to buy your socks that's how it was i had nike socks i was like look i'll get a couple of noodles it was just a whole you know how it is a whole another thing in there um so we were we were in there for like two weeks and uh i got out on house rest i'm remember actually one of the guys that was in there at that time he was in there for so long that I already went through a whole program got into other charges I came back when I was 18

two years later he was still there this kid yeah I was like damn I know I know he was going through it like right you know I know a guy who did four years in the county jail yeah that's crazy huh it's just waiting for like he'd gone he fought his whole case went to trial lost filed an appeal and filed a motion to stay in county jail while the appeal was happening. Wow. So it was like, you've been here for four years. Like, that's insane in a county jail, which is not designed for anybody to be there that long. No, it's not.

Yeah, it's, it sucked, man. I wouldn't recommend it to anybody. Although the food is free. Right. No, but, but, yeah, we were there two weeks. It got out on house arrest. and I mean at that point man I was still like throwing parties at the house I was on house arrest I got evicted out of my mom's condo because I threw a Halloween party

people still talk about it to this day they're like dude you're that kid that had the Halloween party 10 years ago I'm like yeah um but it was so bad I mean dude it was like that it wasn't like Project X or anything that movie but there was there was people out in the front yard getting it on you know what I'm saying the the sign in the front neighborhood someone hit it like just it was they came back the next day when everything was done and they gave me the paper they said yeah give this to your mom you guys got like 30 days left and uh you got to get out of here right or something two weeks um but yeah actually the cops ended up coming to that party and they were cool they're like oh just dump just flush the you know just flush the weed

and the alcohol and you know i had they couldn't see my ankle monitor though right they didn't know was on house arrest i didn't tell anybody right i was just like oh it's a party at my house like i can't go over there but just hang out here um and so that that was a whole other thing i actually did that to my mom like twice or three times you got her evicted twice yeah yeah she sounds like you need to do some time in juvie i mean you might have been i might have been like i'm like i'm like you can't come back here i mean it was yeah it was it was it was wild man and she came home after the second one because i think i was on house arrest too because we moved and then it was like years later i was still on house arrest because i picked up more charges while i was in juvie

and she came home she's like chase this is our home like how did you pick so well so so you're out on house arrest so what what from that point you get the mom's got to move so what happen after that so still on house arrest and uh the day is coming i had a day where my program was going to start it was january 17 did you what's a program like i understand what did you plead to so i i guess i pleaded i don't really know i had like nine counts of armed burglary i i think i pleaded guilty to it armed burglary like you weren't you stole you you hit one car and got got got some guns so how do they hit you with you armed burglary for all the other charges for all the other i think i hit like three cars that had guns in

oh okay i know there was at least two i know there was that one pickup truck so there's a total like nine guns it was like probably five or six oh okay we hit like we would we found one gun in one car two guns and another one a shotgun in this one and so they just rang them all as concurrent like a string and um right and so they had me confessed everything when i was telling you about I confess and I just I don't know I just didn't even care it was like something like I was like what's the worst I can happen like you could get 20 years I know that that's the thing so how much time so how much what was it what did you end up being sentenced to well they finally after you know going back and forth they're like look we can we'll we'll set them to a level six Avon park youth

academy it's no longer here but at the time that was the place they said look you do I think it was nine to six to nine months or something or eight to 12 or something like that. And it wasn't like a maximum security thing. It was a very low, like a bunch of kids, 15, 16 years old. And it was more of like a rehabilitation program. Right. And I think my mom actually told him like she was enforcing that I went, you know. She wanted me to go, I think. Right.

I'm sure. Yeah. You've had her evicted twice. You give the cops raiding the house. Yeah, it wasn't. I wasn't, you know. I remember what was the guy, Tulane? True Lane, yeah, yeah, True Lane.

Yeah, Trulane. There was a guy who was selling drugs, like his, he got caught twice. I think it was twice selling drugs, and his dad was like, get your shit and get out. And he's like, 15 years old or something. He's like, yeah, you're done. Yeah. He's like, I can't stay. No.

You need that tough love, man. I mean, because my mom, she was, you know, she was, I don't want to say she was a pushover if she's not, but it's her son, you know, she's going to do anything for me. So I'd like. But you can only enable something. somebody so much before you say, okay, look, you're, you're, you seem destined to ruin your life. Yeah. But you don't, you know, and I understand you're my kid, but you're not going to take me down with you.

And she would always, even when I was in elementary school, because we would get into, you know, big fights and stuff, even when I was younger, my dad wasn't around, you know, and you need a man around to raise a son, you know, so we'd get into fights and she would always threaten me, Chase, I'm going to send you that military school. We would always drive by it. And she's like, I'm going to send you right there. Yeah, it doesn't look fun, does it? And I'm like, hmm.

Doesn't look bad. all actually I was like oh it's in the woods whatever yeah it didn't it didn't look I don't really remember how it looked but um she would always start me with that and so I think finally when she got her opportunity to you know and I'm glad she did it too I'm glad I think it's good for for kids like that growing up like that I mean just the I mean I'd rather gotten in trouble young yeah than you know older because I can always say you know I was a juvenile, and I was, but I learned my lesson. But, yeah, the house arrest incident, I go to court.

They plea with me a program deal. I go to the program. And so before I go to the program, you know, I'm stressing. You know, I'm like, God, six months. Right. Oh, my God, how am I going to hang out with all my girlfriends, you know? Well, where am I? She's going to find a new boyfriend.

it's going to be like a like a vacation right now right yeah yeah because when i was on house arrest i would just you know i would uh this was when instagram first came out i mean i was on instagram and snapchat before i was like a pioneer that i drove that in the culture you know and so it was it was nothing like it was before i was on that when people would say oh why do you going to have an instagram all you can do is take pictures on there right why i like facebook better that was like 2012 everybody was saying that um and then snapchat and all that but yeah i would just use my time i'm like hey look i'm leaving in a couple weeks whatever when i remember one girl i was dating at the time she was you know she was really upset and it kind of got me upset to know

that i could make someone that upset that didn't even like she was just my girlfriend you know and she was like crying and stuff i was like wow she really cares about me you know and And it didn't, I felt really bad. I don't know. She waited around? No. Okay. She did write me once though.

There you go. That's it. I had a couple girls write me and my, I had a plaque on my wall, my bedroom of just a bunch of girls on the wall. Nobody else on the compound had, I had like 20 girls writing me. I mean, I had a whole picture. I mean, I remember one time I came back and the guys, they took my picture out off the wall because you know, you could break in and get the and I found it in the bathroom on the floor, and I'm like, man, I'm like, well, I know she's high, but she would spray the paper with the perfume, right.

And some girls didn't write me, though, you know. And, but yeah, she didn't wait around. She's got a good career now. She's college and all that, yeah. So you went through the whole program. You got out. Yeah. What?

Well, I didn't necessarily get out. That was the problem. What happened? I thought, you know, I'm going to come here on good behavior. I'm going to do good here. Right. I'm not going to mess around. You know, I'm not like that, these kids and stuff.

And so I was good for about four or five months, you know. So when you first get there, I'm sure, you know, they shave your head, bald, go into orientation. I meet, you know, a couple other people like me. Some of those people went on to have actually a prestige. criminal career. Right. So I mean, we'll talk about that later, but I get there. Everything's good for a while. You know, I'm getting whatever. I'm like, okay, it's not bad. All I wanted was some good food and, you know, just a just a girl to come. I mean, I wanted to eat more than anything. Like I would just picture like, oh my man, I can't wait to get out and just have a big

like icing cake or something, you know. I would cross down all the days. I would cross down all the days I was on a crazy workout program too I was actually training some of the other guys um you know like pushups and stuff like that I mean deck of cards you know you get the deck of cards and I was just trying to pass time by right I mean I wrote like I copied a workout book I for word for word just so I could take it home with me because they told me I couldn't take the book home with me so I was like all right I'm just going to write down basically copy the whole book and so I was just doing a lot reflecting you know just a lot of time to just kind of what in the heck is going on you know how did i get here so so what happened that you didn't get out so there was um about halfway when i was

in there about six months there was a riot that broke out okay the riot right um the riot started over a cup of noodles i can see that yeah that's how ridiculous it is over a cup of noodles somebody owed somebody a cup of noodles and the guy told him fuck off and basketball game they lost a basketball game oh okay and I played basketball in high school I was like a tri-athlet in high school man I I really when I moved back down to Florida I kind of just left all that stuff behind me I mean I started missing practice and getting on the bus with you know these girls and so I know I'm kind of jumping around but back to that whole thing I would I was very athletic and so was my dad and he'd always want

He's like, Chase, just, you know, he's like, you could really, you know, just keep working out. He'd always encourage me to just do sports. And, you know, the girls just got me distracted, man. I remember leaving school one time, 10th grade, Chelsea and China, you know, that was, they're like, come on the bus with us, you know, come back home. I'm like, yeah, that sounds like a great idea. I'm not going to run suicides in the basketball practice, not today. And I'd tell my coach, yeah, I left my shoes at the house.

man I'm sorry and he'd see me walking with the two girls on the bus and so so that was kind of how I veered off I started getting onto another prioritizing you know that instead of sports and myself you know I should have but you know you're 16 so back to the whole riot thing we it was a it was a territorial riot so St. Pete and Orlando that was like oh fuck St. Pete you know right and And so everybody started running out of the compound. I mean, they were calling 1033, 1033. And so it got so bad because there was only 20 staff there. It got so bad that the staff left the compound.

They left. Okay. They didn't carry pepper spray. They didn't carry any of that. How many inmates? No, 200 kids, 200 or something. And, you know, they weren't, like, licensed correctional officers or anything. Right.

They work for G4S. right and so they just get a job they're just counselors exactly yeah and um yeah um everyone started running out of the compound and uh i was just looking i'm like wow and so i'm like i'm gonna go out there too like let's check i just wanted to check it out right and so you know you know you got your little click or whatever guys in there and they're actually from this area sarasota Steven and Creston Stephen and Creston Yeah they

They actually just got out of the level 10 One of them One of them actually I'll show you a picture He was on by crime, crime stoppers We're looking for him, crime stoppers He was doing a bunch of stuff And he's finally He's actually in AC school now

So what happened did you Did you try and escape? Like you just went out With the other guys? It's funny We were talking about escaping But I'm like, come on guys we're not going to escape. Where are we going to go? You know, we're in Avon Park.

I didn't know where I was at. He's like, no, I can call this girl, you know, she'll come pick us up. I'm like, we don't have time like that to do all that. Plus, I'm trying to get out of here. I'm not trying to, you know, pick up a bunch of extra charges and stuff. So we went, what we did was instead of fighting everything, we just wanted to get on Facebook, you know, to talk to our people. And we were hungry, so we got some candy bars and stuff like that. And so we broke into one of the guidance counselor's office.

We threw a fire extinguisher through the window. And then, you know, one of us jumped in there and opened the door or whatever. Yeah, Facebook was like, if you can get on Facebook on there, I mean, it was like, man, I'll stay here forever. Right. And I was like, but yeah, so two, three hours, this is going on. The medical facility that was there on the compound was ransacked. I mean, it looks something like out of a movie. Guys who had their shirts over their face and fire extinguishers, throwing TVs through the window, all kind of just everything you can think of, you know.

Actually, one of my friends almost died in that riot. That was the same one because we split up because they wanted to go fight and down in Broward and stuff. And I was like, dude, dumb, dumb boys are going to say, I'm like, no, no, no, don't do that. Just, you know, but you know how it is. Everyone's got their political beef and stuff. so um yeah i um we were there and so finally um you know sheriff grady judd yeah yeah right he actually was there and he was he went on an interview about talking about this place and i think that's why they shut it down because they weren't properly equipped um to handle that many student

i mean in case something like that happened right um actually i mean i got my g ed while i was there too so I graduated from that place um yeah they finally shut it down um they got on i think there was a bunch i don't want to say there was a helicopter i don't think there was there might have been though but they were just on the megaphone hey you guys need to lay down we're bringing the dogs in um so if you guys aren't laying down with your hands behind your back you know the dogs are gonna get you so everyone's laying down i see my friend crawling with his head like a pumpkin dude what he's like I was like man I told you not to right and that he had the most he had the most damage to his dude I mean I never seen someone's head that swollen it looked like a pumpkin on

his head I felt bad man I was like dude oh my god so anyways they zip tie everybody hands behind your back zip tie everyone I was in zip ties for like 10 hours or something eight six hours like shoulders about to just pop out in my side pocket. And, you know, they had us all in the atrium. They were waiting for the Polk County bus to come pick us all up because they were, they were sending everybody to the county jail in Polk County. And so that's how I picked up the riot charge, you know, and I wasn't even really, I got, I got charged with exciting a riot, but 61 kids got charged with that. Right. I think there's like 200 of them there so yeah we you know we're all zip tied and on the bus going to uh so we

we finally get to the Polk County Jail we're there for about two weeks and um everyone's just like you know they separated everything um we're in like pods and everything and whatever you know just they were holding us there for like two weeks so how much how much additional time did you get well um they were getting so it's considered violation of probation since i was actually that's how they that's how they charge you you're violating your probation because you're technically considered on parole while you're still in and um so they so all my gun charges popped up when i violate when you violate the parole or probation all your previous charges come on and you know how it works right yeah so um they charged me with that and they brought all the other charges and uh

I mean, I was fighting that for like eight months, too. That's when I got back out on house arrest. So before house arrest, I finished the program. So two weeks go by. We get back to Avon Park. They're letting a lot of people go. And it was just like, no one, this has never really happened before. So they didn't really know what to do, I don't think.

There was a lot of abuse going on there, too. A lot of abuse. I wasn't aware of it at the time, but one of my friends told me about it. And so they actually ended up shutting the program down a couple years later. But, yeah, I picked up to charge. I got released from there probably three months after coming back from Avon Park. And, yeah, that's kind of... You got released and were you never charged for anything else?

They never... Oh, was it? So I went back to Palm Beach County to fight my violating probation charge. Right. I went back to Palm Beach County. I was, the judge just kind of let me go. Like, he was like, look, I was like begging him. I'm like, I'm like, please, like, I learned my lesson.

I didn't do anything in the riot. You know, I was just there. They got me. I didn't do anything. I didn't burglarize anything. He did burglarize that. That's what they charged. Yeah.

I don't know, man. I just was there. I mean, I was on house arrest fighting it and I was just remember I was crying in the courtroom I couldn't even control it right he let me go and it was like tears of joy right I was crying I like just remorseful like I was just like oh my god thank you he understands like how old were you at that point I was uh 17 you're still 17 yeah 17 because before I was 21 I got arrested four times right um so that was the I think that was the third time yeah I mean

Basically, after all that, you know, the judge let me go. That's when I started to kind of change my life around. I realized it's not the life for me, although I did get into some trouble a couple years after. But when I got out, the judge let me go. I was on probation for about two years. Drug tests, all that kind of stuff. I don't think they ever drug tested me, actually, when I was on probation. They never drug tested me because I didn't have, like, drug-related charges.

Okay. But not that it's, I think I was smoking a little weed or something. But, yeah, that's when I started to really change my life around. I mean, when I first got out, I was walking to all these different shopping centers, and I would ask for a job. I'd go to the gas station. Hey, do you think I can get a job here? I mean, I'll stock the shelves.

I'll do whatever you want. I don't care. Just I needed to get a job to make some money the right way, you know. And so my mom's boyfriend at the time, she's like, well, he says, Chase, you know, I see that you are putting the work in and you want to change your life, this and that. I'm going to talk to my boss and see if we can get you a job doing AC. and I was like okay you know didn't think much of it and I actually ended up did getting a job at the pizza place I just never started right so I went in there and I got the job and they said yeah you know come in tomorrow or something and this all the same time I had an interview at the AC company or

something I don't know what exactly happened but I ended up not ever working at the pizza place thank God and yeah I don't know how that would have worked I was really big into working out. Right. And I remember thinking like, man, I'm not going to be able to work out anymore if I have a job. You know, yeah, you can do both, but I'm not waking up at 4.30 in the morning. You know, so I moved in with this dude. He was doing AC.

I moved in with him. He had a spare room in a place he was renting. And I started riding my skateboard to work every day. I mean, I didn't have a car. so it was like a mile away the shop uh i would ride in skateboard lunchbox and um ten dollars an hour

you know back in 2014 uh i think it was october second um and yeah that's kind of where everything started changing for the good okay yeah

I thought you got arrested okay so then I got arrested Okay, so then I got arrested again after that, yeah. Okay, well, I guess we're done. No, no, no, no, not far from done. Well, I mean, close. We're getting there. So I was, you know, doing AC for a while and, you know, doing good.

I had a girlfriend, and she was Cuban and Puerto Rican. That's what's dangerous. Yeah, yeah, dangerous. Yeah, yeah, dangerous. Yeah, yeah. Beautiful. I mean, she was gorgeous. I, she worked at Applebee's down the street from me.

She was one of my cousin's friends Because my cousin worked at Applebee's too And I went in there one day I said hey Where's that girl that drives the punch buggy at And she's like She came up and I said hey what's up I'm Chase this and that

She had her boyfriend I was working there at the time And I just basically took her right from her boyfriend And then he got all mad He came outside and I just kind of drove off in my truck Because I finally got a car down So I got a truck So while I'm doing AC you know and um so we start dating and everything's good everything's great like this was probably one of

my first real relationships you know um that i've ever had and um we you know we you know we would argue a little bit sometimes and so um one time it was a bad argument and uh we were driving we were driving i was driving we were on our way to the beach i think or something and she was rolling up a blunt and she was arguing and she was yelling and this and that and i slammed on the brakes and she kind of just flew forward everything in her lab everything just kind of flew forward and uh i call that wedging them yeah that's when you you you wedge them when they when they hit the that you you what and you hit the you hit the brakes and it wedges in between the dashboard and the windshield that they fly forward and then shot back and what you sure everything yeah exactly

shot so I didn't do anything I didn't touch you exactly I gave you sorry that was it yeah that was I didn't touch you I didn't do anything like that yeah you's angry of me I hit the brakes I didn't know that your 110 pound ass was going to fly into the fucking winch that's crazy why don't you have your seatbelt lock yeah exactly and she's yelling at me and I'm driving and I'm like oh I couldn't take it I was like just stop you know And so, you know, all the weed that she had fell on the floor. I think she hit her head on the dashboard, too. But, and I think I even told her, I was like, that's what you get.

I think I even said that. I shouldn't laugh. I know. I shouldn't laugh either. She, I know she's going to be watching this. What she even do again? She was just arguing. She was just, bitching about something.

Yeah, boom, it at the fucking right. She was yelling at me for something. I don't even remember. And, and so I was like, after that, I said, you know what? I said just get out right I said just get out because she wouldn't stop even after that she just kept I said just get out just get out the truck so she did she got all her stuff and she started she got out and she started walking back to her house and she's only about a 10 minutes from her house or something so she'll be fine yeah I felt I speed off I hit the gas I'm out of there you know

I'm driving I'm like you know what I feel bad about that I was like let me go back and try to say sorry So I go back, I'm like, I don't even know if I should say her name or not, but that's probably document. I mean, it was just saying her first thing, whatever, Jennifer. Yeah. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, Ivana, I'm like, get back in the truck. Come on. I'm like, I'm sorry. I was talking to her a little bit soft spoke.

I'm like, I'm sorry, you know, I didn't mean all that. Let's talk about this. She's still rubbing her head. She was pissed. Yeah, she wasn't even looking at me. She just kept walking, just ignore me completely. And I was like, please, just come on. Let's talk about this and just totally ignored me.

And I got mad and I sped off again. I'm like, whatever. And I'm like, you know what? No, I got to go back. What am I going to do the rest of the night? Right. Yeah. Think about this.

So I go back. I'm like, hey, I get out of the car this time. I get out. I parked the truck. I'm like, hey, listen. Like, I'm talking to you. Like, can we talk? And she just keeps doing it.

So she just kept ignoring me and just kept walking. So I like, I took the towel from her or something or like her purse or something that I'm like trying to get out. I meant to get her purse because I know she would come after. If I grabbed her purse, I know she's come. So I grabbed like the beach towels, the wrong bag with all the towels in it and stuff. And she's like, oh, I don't care. You can have those, you know. Like, so I'm like, damn, I got the wrong bag.

So I go back to her. I'm like, hey, look, like just can we talk? And I think I actually broke my finger. This is the time. It's still broken today. It won't bend all the way, like, from this time. Yeah, because I went to grab her purse, and she had, like, a big bottle of perfume in there or something. And I cracked my finger on it, and I broke my finger.

And I was like, oh, man, I was like, oh, it hurt so bad. Probably some of the worst pain I've ever been in finger broken. It's not fun. And she's, she's still, like, I didn't get her purse. I broke my finger. I'm like yelling. I'm like, oh, you bitch. Like, oh, you broke my finger now.

I'm blaming her. Yeah, I'm blaming her for it. You know, I'm like, you broke my finger now. And so I go to the nearest gas station. I get some ice for it. And I'm like, oh, God, I'm just, I was so pissed off. I was like, oh, man, I was just trying to relax. I was like, what am I going to do?

So I go to her car because I know she was walking to her car and she was like 10 minutes away from it. Because remember, we took my truck to go. to the beach and um i go to a car and this is going to get a lot of people of probably not liking me for this but uh i uh i decided to kick a bunch of dents in it right yeah how old are you at this point 18 19 i had a buddy who his name was his name was Greg yeah Greg Shelton he's dead now actually he ripped off a drug dealer and the guy took him out in the wood and tied him to a tree and tortured him to death.

Damn. Shit. A snake charmer found him. He shot, the guy ended up shooting him in the chest four or five times, but broke all his fingers were, they found it, he'd been tortured first. Like the guy broke all his fingers and, and beat him with like a pipe and all kinds of stuff. He was all fucked up. And then finally the guy just took a gun and shot him in the chest four or five times.

The guy's never been arrested. I thought you're going to tell the story that you're going to tell about him. I didn't know if that was him would be the way he died. No, no, that was, but no, but what happened with Greg was, We lived together at one point, and he was dating a chick. And I remember they got into an argument. She got into her car and was driving off. And I remember when she got into the car,

he was running and hitting and punching and kicking the car. He ripped off like the rear room mirror. And then he took it and he's smashing it into the fucking car. Like really, and he'd already ran up the car and just kicked that, like, dented in like the front fender and the door. And then he yanked the, then he yanked off the, the rear rear mirror and was smashing it in the car like he beat the shit out of the as she's driving away he's running with the car in a park in a you know it's in a apartment

parking lot so she can't pick up enough speed then she has to stop and then he's still beating on and then she finally gets away see yeah and he I remember when he got back to the apartment I went why did you do that right he said he's like bro I fucking love her bro yeah and I went did you think that after you did $2,000 to it was a piece of shit car but after you did a couple thousand dollars with a damage to her car did you think she was going to stop get out look at the car and say you must love me right it's like what exactly think what was going through your head he was like i wasn't think i yeah i i don't i fucked up should i apologize i was like oh no that that's that's done yeah that's two thousand dollars with a damage to a a 1500 car right like i mean that's it yeah

everyone goes over yeah she was back a couple days later but still so he was an idiot yeah and see See, I didn't want her to see. I didn't want anybody to know that I was going to do this, right? So I did it more discreetly. Like, I didn't want to make sure. I didn't want to break her car too much where her windows were broken and her, I just wanted to make it like just beat it up. I was just so angry.

I just wanted to take it out on something. And you didn't think when she got there, she would know. Oh, I knew she'd get there and be like, oh, my gosh, someone randomly just smashed my car up. Well, my thing was like, good luck trying to prove it, that it was me, you know? And so there was a witness there that seen me do that. And I didn't know, right? I didn't know that she was watching.

You're like a horrible criminal. I know. That's why I just gave it up because I was like, it's not working out for me. Listen, I had another, I had a friend named Tim Hampton who actually was walking through an apartment complex. And this guy had left his screen door open a little bit. And he went around, knocked on the screen on the front door, and nobody answered. So he went back around and went in the screen door, found the guy's credit cards. took the guy's credit card and went out to the to the mall and ran up the credit card this is back in the 80s so you could just you had the credit card you just show boom boom he bought whatever thousand two thousand dollars with a stuff yeah and then went back to the guy's apartment to put the credit card back and he put the credit card back and was like wow you know nice right yeah good job

and then he left and the guy came home and realized that someone had come in the house and found out about the charges and they tracked Greg down immediately because Greg had left his wallet there. Oh my God. Greg was not an arch criminal. Wow. Yeah. He was not a mastermind.

No, he wasn't. He was a smart guy. Yeah. But yeah, he wasn't like, he thought breaking people. putting the credit card back like nice he'll never figure it out like he's 19 20 years old like he's just a kid he didn't really know how things well you remember the barefoot bandit don't you yeah yeah that kid i mean that was a great story yeah he's kind of an idiot too though yeah i heard when he got in front of the judge like he was like wasn't sorry wasn't it was like he was like geez yeah i mean

he stole those planes and yeah he was he was brilliant i mean dude i mean he would hide in the top of the trees when they come to look for him. He knew that jungle so well. He was hiding on top of the trees. Have you heard this story of the barefoot bandit? This kid was, did he learn how to fly planes by playing by the video games? Yeah, a simulator. And he would go rob, and this was where, Alaska?

Where was it? Where was a bunch of islands? Oh, Bahamas. It was in the Bahamas. No, no, I think that's where he got caught. He got caught. No, a lot of them were, wherever it was, there were some islands. Yeah, caught the Bahamas.

but he was, I'm sure somebody in the comments will tell me, but he would rob a bunch of places and then take a plane, break into a private airport and grabbing a piper. He's never flown a plane. And then take off and fly somewhere else and then bring the plane down and land it and wreck it. Yeah, wreck it, right. And get out and go rob some other places.

And the cops know it's him. He's barefoot. He's going and breaking into places, walking around barefoot. They got his prince. everywhere right and they know who it is every they just couldn't catch him and then he would they would like okay we know he's in this area and this island or this whatever this air so we can get it and he just go find a fucking private airplane or airport jump into an airplane yeah they say take off they say that he he he would steal the credit card like you said and he would buy like

instruction manuals on how to fly the the plane and he would buy this stuff off someone else's credit card have it shipped to somebody else's address and then he would get the information and just read how to he this is a kid that was raised like in the woods in a trailer and a one and and a single wide trailer in the woods with a mother that's living on on disability doesn't go to fucking school yeah where barefoot all the time yep i mean he's a straight straight um hillbilly in the woods i think be a fucking genius right right exactly i think the cops actually got him a couple times i mean they were on the trail like the same place and he would just give him the finger like yeah good luck trying to he would look at him as they're coming to

Good luck trying to get me. Just run out, and they wouldn't even be able to find them. Yeah. He's a kid, you know, you got a bunch of overgrown, you got a 40, a fat 45-year-old cop. Yeah, and a 17-year-old kid. You're not catching him. You're not catching that kid. No.

I wouldn't even try. I'd be like, yeah, you got this. Yeah, he had, I mean, he had like a whole fan club, too. Oh, yeah. He had T-shirts after him, everything, yeah. But, you know, in the end, it turned out he's kind of a jerk, you know, it's like, you know, they were supposed to be a, they sold his life right. they did there there is a like an animated one you see it was pretty good right yeah it was what a great movie that would have been absolutely it was a great story I thought wow like

how different I mean to take a plane that's a whole other level yeah I can't imagine I don't care how many video games I played right I wouldn't at any point think I'm I'm qualified to do this yeah that's that's specifically because you're a kid Like a 40-year-old man, it would be like, fuck, no, I'll kill myself. But as a kid, you think, you think you're indestructible. Exactly. You do, yeah. That was part of my problem.

I thought, you know, I was like, I'm good no matter what happens. Right, I'm going to figure this out. I'm going to be all right. Yeah. I'm a tough guy. Yeah. I can get to a car accident in 100 miles an hour and brace myself on the way. I actually thought that.

Like, I could brace myself on the steering wheel. Yeah, I actually did. I actually got into it. I was benching three. I was benching like 350. I'll just brace myself. Are you out of your fucking mind? The way it works.

Yeah, I actually did get in a head-on collision on B-line, actually out there in Okachovie, because I used to live out there with my grandpa. My grandpa lives out there, and my two-ons live out there, too. My grandpa was, he was a good guy. I mean, he was a veteran, Vietnam veteran, private investigator, all that. But, yeah, I got in a head-on collision and had, like, four staples in the top of my head. I was trying to pass a car, and as I'm passing the car, I'm, like, smoking a bull. bowl and I'm like looking at him and like just listening to my music and the guy like

makes sure I can't get in front of him he like speeds up oh and there's a car coming and I'm like oh okay yeah totaled the totaled the truck but that's another thing um so yeah second arrest you're so you you smash up smash up the car somebody saw you gave me your license tag number agreed to cooperate and the cops come to your house and said would you please come down there no that's no it went a little differently because they actually didn't see my license plate he they seen the big blue truck I had a blue truck and so the cops called me and they said hey chase could you come down here because I had her keys still because she's I don't like the fact that you know my first name yeah exactly we're on a on a first name basis right that's what I'm saying

that so there was a blue truck chase yeah Yeah, it was, geez, right. Well, the thing was what kind of gave me away, I think, a lot was I got there, and I had her keys still, and I told her, I said, I threw her keys on the side of 95 somewhere. I was like, I don't know, she's not going to be able to get in her car, because she couldn't get in the car. I had her keys still. And so I had to come back to bring her keys, and when I came back, they seen the blue truck. And they're like, oh, yeah, we've already identified you.

And the witness said it looks exactly like you in the same truck. and they arrest me for vandalism it wasn't in any domestic thing or anything like that they did try to pull that card the domestic but i told her i said you want to go down there and tell them the truth tell them i didn't put a finger on you there was no domestic you know as much as i wanted to yeah wedgings don't count no i took it out on your car i said i took it all out on your car you know that's that's what happened here and so i want to make and she did she went down there and told them you know hey whatever and um they i think she filed an injunction on me i don't even know what that is but i seen it on the internet uh and you know i don't talk to her anymore or anything but no that

relationship didn't work out no it's nuts learned a lot um but yeah not learning experience it was it sure was well what was the next thing that happened so i mean after all that i really because i got I got arrested. I went to, this time, they, you know, they booked me in jail and everything. I was, I was in the county. So back up a little bit. I mean, on my 18th birthday, while I was still doing the whole house arrest thing, I mean, while I was doing the whole riot thing, I spent my 18th birthday, you know, I was on the juvenile floor, 18th birthday comes long, they took me to the adult, you know, maximum security, because I had. gun charges and that was before you know um that was while the riot like right after the riot

i know i'm going back a little bit but um i spent my 18th birthday on that place and it's like i could never leave that place it's like i always i'm like what is going on you know like keep on coming back here i didn't want to come back here anymore i'm like well how come i like i'm like what in the heck is going on like why do i keep ending up here you know right and you know obviously you know it's not making the right decisions um it could have been a lot worse i know one of my one of my i wouldn't say friend but i acquaintance i knew him knew of him um while i was in the program long story short he ends up becoming the purge killer the purge they called they had a name for him and everything they call him the purge killer okay because he was going around just killing

people man just shooting him out of the car okay trying to get initiated in some gang stuff you know and i was i was i knew him he would always bring back the meds you know under his tongue or whatever and sell them to people and to make you go to sleep and stuff but yeah so if you you you go to pill line and you get on like syracille or something right i think that's what it was called too you know if you so they give you this so but you gotta go to pill line and when you go there the nurses like they'll give you a little they'll give you your medication and that but they want to see you swallow so you put it out you're um And they go, okay.

And they're like, lifts your tongue out. But, you know, guys go, while they're doing it, they'll wedge it up here or something. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's places to hide. They just, ah, blah. Yeah, they know. I'm good. And then you come back on it, and you can sell it.

Yeah. That's what they were doing. That's what he was. It's horrible. Yeah, it is bad, man. I didn't want any of that. I just wanted some food, man. I was so hungry, growing boy, you know?

I was like, dude, give me some steak or something. but yeah i mean after that all that happened really um i stopped i learned my lesson you know i said you know i need to get focused on my business i need to get focused on something that's sustainable that's good what about the arrest for the thing did you go to jail for that you said you got booked did you get out and they did you get probation because yeah she went to the the jail and told them like hey it's not a domestic dispute it was just a vandalism i think i got charged with it but that's all I did it was time served I think and did you pay for a truck no no wow I know I know I know she didn't even ask me to I was it a decent was it a decent vehicle to begin

with it was like a Ford focus oh so it was yeah maybe been improving her her she called her mom her mom called my mom and stuff and it was it was nasty it got bad you know but she actually reached out to my mom a couple years ago like a year ago she's like oh good luck with the hurricane and right you know my ex she sounds like a nice person yeah trying to we'll be back in you know how you doing over there you know but she she was uh she had a lot to learn too you know we were both young and just you know just teenage relationship yeah exactly they all end badly right and i i didn't so i didn't i didn't want uh i didn't want to keep uh getting in trouble after that I didn't. I was like, all right. I guess I just have to lock myself in a room or something and just

like drink water and just eat rice and beans and just meditate, you know, or something I had. Is that what you did? Basically, I mean, kind of like I just stopped going out, stop hanging out with everybody. I just kind of stuck to myself. I was just doing the AC thing, bouncing around from company to company just trying to get raise after raise you know I'd go to one company hey can I get 15 an hour here you know how it is you just bounce around and so after I worked for all the AC companies in the city I went to another city and so I ended up working for like 10 companies before I started my own business all throughout South Florida I actually made a pit stop in Okachobi worked out there

for a little while and a lot of stuff I mean my grandpa I was living with my grandpa out there for a little while. And, yeah, he actually, there was a guy that he, one of his buddies, I guess, up in North Carolina or something, he was staying down there for a little while. Come to find out, this dude, same thing like you were talking about, he would torture, he, like, tortured somebody in the woods and killed him or something. And I was sleeping next to this guy in the same roof underneath the same.

same roof with this dude and you meet him and he's like oh hey like never would have thought that yeah but you didn't know him money exactly yeah i didn't know him anymore yes i don't know with that other guy yeah but you know exactly yeah so he was um that was the last time i seen it i thought it was just wild how that dude i mean looks can deceive i guess you know you never never judge a book by its cover they say but try not to um but yeah after that um Things kind of started working out for me. I was real serious about doing AC. That seemed like the only thing that I could do

that I wasn't getting in trouble with. You know, I go to work. I met some great people along the way. I still think about all the things I've learned from every person that I've ever worked with and stuff. And, yeah, I got four companies now, four businesses. Right. all of them together. Revenue, probably about 800,000 a year. It's not a lot or nothing,

but it just keeps me, you know, busy. It doesn't put on too much of a workload for me where I've to, you know, I'm, I got like one other person that helps me on the other coast, run the service calls. But I'm still in the, in a tough spot right now to kind of get the business to grow. Everyone's so focused on making millions of dollars and stuff. And I'm just, I want to go slow and steady, you know, slow and steady. Every time I tried to rush things and stuff, it end up in a jail cell. Slow and steady, you know? So a lot of, I think, I don't know if you're a religious person or not, but, you know, God puts you through these things, whoever your God is, and it puts you through these things to teach you a lesson or, you know, to show you what's going to happen and you either learn

or you don't. And so I finally learned. And I don't want to say I'm happy that it all happened like that. Right. But I'm grateful for the way that it did turn out and not, it could have been a lot worse, you know. And, you know, my life's not over yet either. I'm 28 years old, 28, be 29 February. So, I mean, you know, there's still a lot of, still a lot of distractions. out there, you know, but I try to just stay focused and I'm still trying to find a good girl to settle down with, you know? And, uh, but yeah, that's basically, I mean, and you got to, I mean, this hasn't been a glowing endorsement or at least for, not for, not if she's got a vehicle, but, um, well, I'm sure that was a long time. Yeah. No, I'm not, how long ago was that? That was 2017. Oh, okay.

2017 so it's you know even when I went to go get my license to do be an AC contractor I had to go to court because the guy on the phone was like it seems like every two years you have a pattern and I'm like I didn't even realize that two years and I said so you know what every every two years now I'm going to start a new business right and so we have these little patterns that we don't even recognize but they they did give me um they gave me um the license I had to hire a lawyer and you know to get in front of the construction board of, you know, the construction industry board of Florida. Right.

And they issued the license. What do you do? Do you do new construction or you just do service calls? I mean, we could do anything AC related, anything up to 25 tons. Which is for what? Commercial. Is that commercial?

Yeah. Anything over five tons is like commercial. But I have a niche and it's really just residential. You know, it's, I don't do anything. construction there's no money in construction the the money there I mean you will make some money but it's just to keep your guys busy right you know and so you can retain that good talent and not have them wander off to a different company that'll keep them busy um it's tough though I mean the AC

industry I think it's it's super competitive it's one of the most stressful businesses to be in to be a part of because you know everybody has an AC guy but yeah I want to say AC changed my life So something like a trade. I mean, it changed my whole perspective on life and what to do. Yeah, I'm just, I'm grateful for that opportunity that he gave me a while ago. What's going on with your mom? She lives in Benita, Benita Springs, her in my... Is that in Florida?

Yeah. Okay. It's like... Little towns. Little south of Fort Myers, like Astero, a little north of Naples. Okay. A little south of Fort Myers I think of as the Etherglades, you know? Yeah, yeah, that's a little southeast.

But, yeah, she's good. I mean, she's proud of everything, you know. She's still, she's like my rock. Right. You know what I mean? Like, my mom's always been there for me, man. She's, she's great. You know, she's the only person that's never turned her back on me, you know.

Well, I don't know how to cut you lose a couple. if you get me evicted a second fucking time i mean you might get me evicted once but boy that second time i don't know you've got someplace to come she yeah she lost it that time too i remember i was like all right i can't do this again i could just see the pain in her in her eyes right and i was like ah that's not a good feeling you know you don't want to feel like that to i mean my sister you know my sister was there she was young and it's like what kind of influence are you setting you know like is your sister same same uh biological father yeah really boy this guy he's you're he just he'd get out he'd go to prison come back hook up with your mom go to prison come back

hook up with your mom yeah you must have been a looker yeah i mean he's yeah he was he had a missing teeth there at the end of his life but other than that he was uh he was a solid dude you know all right yeah he you could count on him for sure but um yeah he my dad i mean he's yeah i have so i have a real sister full sister i have a step sister i got a half sister i got a cousin first cousin that's you know my uncle's daughter which she's like my sister too we're close um so are these are all like related to your father you so you have your father has how many kids yeah like three two or three oh okay but my step sister is now uh with my mom's new new guy they've been I'm going to get like 10 years now, 10 years.

But they're actually like high school sweethearts back in the day. So he had a daughter. And so, I mean, they're not married yet, but she's basically like my step-sister, you know. They're working on a whole little Brady bunch. Yeah, exactly. Do you know the Brady bunch? Yeah. I don't think he really.

He's never watched an episode. Yeah, you know what? Are you serious? I don't think I've ever watched an episode either. Are you serious? No, I've heard of it. What's so funny about, like, it was for like the 70s. it was such a non-traditional thing kind of like they were to say hey this was a man who had three sons

and a woman who had three daughters like that they never talk about where are their spouses or where their ex-husband ex-wife are they are both are they both you don't know if they're widowed you don't know if they divorced right they never come along and the first episode they had a dog never saw that dog again and there's like multiple things that you didn't even realize is happening yeah it's just like but in the world yeah yeah so anyway it's uh yeah the ready bunch yeah basically i grew up on the pretty much yeah no it's i know it's a popular tv show uh yeah no it's kind of like that but he's a good dude you know he's he's my bookkeeper too so he does on my county and stuff right you know i have a books and so my bookkeeper is a um she does hair oh really i'm a licensed

barber too really are you serious yeah he's gonna say she does hair and she does my books oh yeah She does her books, and she does mine. And I'm trying to get my wife to do my books, but she has no real interest in it at all. It's not fun. And I'm just afraid she's going to get me thrown in jail if she does. I'm not sure about this other chick either. Yeah, it always is in your head. I hope he's doing the right thing.

Colby knows what I'm doing my taxes because he gets these panicked phone calls. Yeah. Can you give me a list of all the checks? Right. Yeah. I'm pretty diligent with all that stuff. I mean, I got like, you know, everything very organized. I tried to at least, but yeah, no, he does the bookkeeping for me.

Yeah, I don't have really a big family, you know. I mean, actually, my last name, Garlinghouse, I was looking into this because I'm like, where the hell am I from, you know? Right. I'm from like Sweden or something or over there. And what is that, what is that country called, not Iceland, but. Norway, Sweden to Norway and Sweden are one island. There's split right down the middle.

Scandinavia. Yeah, Scandinavia. The Nordic. The Nordic, exactly. Countries, yeah. That's kind of where, because I spit in that cup, I did a DNA thing. But I found out my last name is actually a small city in Europe, in Germany. It's actually like...

You don't look German. No? You look like Adolf Hitler's white. That's what you're blonde hair, blue eyes. Yeah, right. You could definitely be wearing... No, it was in his... Soviet compound that city. It's like a town probably smaller than this place here where we're at this

neighborhood. I mean, it's a smaller, it's such a small little city, but it's Garling House. It's like, you know, German. Right. And I'm like, I got to go there. I want to go there and check it out, see, but just got my passport and stuff. You know, they finally let me get that. So. I've been in Germany. Have you? Yeah. How do you like it? It's cloudy. Yeah. Very dark. Really? I mean, I'm sure it's sunny sometimes, but the whole time we were there for like a week, it was fucking just overcast and damp and just, you know, and they speak German, you know. There's no, you've never heard anybody speak German where you didn't feel like they were telling you to get into an oven or something. Right.

Yeah, yeah. This is the guy who you're giving your order to. Slainstun, strike. And you're thinking, like, you tell him he wants to see my papers? What's he saying? Get into the van. We're taking you to the concentration camp. Like, I'm like, it doesn't.

No, everything they say just sounds super scary. Yeah, exactly. It's not a romantic language. No, I don't think so. The French talk and you think, oh, that sounds sweet. They're telling you go, fuck yourself. Yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, that's beautiful.

Yeah. No, I think Germany's definitely got that. They always play the bad guys. Yeah, they do. You can tell if like five guys walk in the room and one speak in German, you're like, he's the bad guy. He's the bad dude, yeah. It's, you know, just based on their record. Sorry.

It's going off your record. Yeah, no, they do. They do have quite extensive record. Yeah. But, no, that's, I mean, I think my, I've been in Florida for like four generations. My mom's side of the family. My dad's side of the family, they migrated from New York, came down a couple of generations. Yeah, but I'm a Florida boy.

You know, I've born, raised most of my life here. You know, I probably never will leave Florida just because why? Right. You know, like, where is a better place? I mean, there's a lot of great places out there, but to live, to work. They're not great. Florida's the best, except for the heat, but I never leave the house. You have to leave the house while.

And when you show up, there's no heat. I mean, sorry, there's no AC. Oh, that sucks. And then I leave when the AC comes on. Oh, that's horrible. I want to hang out a little bit. I leave the AC running in my vehicle the whole time just like in the vehicle. I do.

Well, sometimes I have dinner with a lot of my clients and stuff, you know, like, you'd be amazed but people like there's some quite some fellows interesting people that call the AC guy you know it's interesting yeah it's interesting definitely um yeah I was gonna say if my AC went out and um my wife was home alone and had to call the AC guy and I knew you were the AC guy I'd be like right exactly you sit there and fucking swim that's what you do you wait until I get home, I'll call her. Hell, you're gonna be in that house with that dude. Yeah, that's, I mean, there's a lot of that,

like, I, because married women and stuff, I don't, no, I don't even go there. Like, I can tell sometimes they try to flirt with me and stuff, and I'm like, no. No. The one thing I haven't done has been shot yet. Yeah, I'm not. Right, yeah, I'm not messing around.

You know, I don't mess around with people just like, you know. But, yeah, no, I just want to get to fix the AC and get out. I wish it was that easy. Just let me fix the AZ and let me leave, right? But sometimes I want to hold you up and they want to tell you their whole life story and stuff. And it's like, I get it. You want to develop a rapport. I have about 800 customers throughout Florida.

I'd say about 50% of them are 60% women. Right. You know, call me. You would think it's the guys, but I don't know. Where's Jeff? You're just going down. Yeah, I don't know. That's a...

Jess. That's a no-go. Hey there. Listen, if the AC guy looks like him, you just stay here and sweat before you make that call. You know what I'm saying? I mean, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. He said that 60% of his clients are women.

No shit. Well, no, it's weird because I literally have not paid a dollar to Google. And I'm like at the number one or two, three link. like people are like oh set up your google profile i'm like i don't need to word of mouth great you know like they're like oh we could grow your business i'm like dude you don't understand i'm good i'm good man yeah and the heat's not going away that they tell me yeah he's not going away anytime soon i don't think so i mean yeah yeah 92 percent of my fan base is male yeah that's what got me here right i mean i was wondering but yeah

No, it's... Are we good? I think so. I mean, I think we got everything out there and for everyone to peel apart and go do your research. If you think I'm lying on anything, you know, look into it, you know, see, check it out. I got a bunch of five-star reviews on Google, you know, hundreds of them, you know. I do have a couple one-star reviews, but can't please everybody. No.

Some people are just jerks. I mean, if you don't smile at some people, they're like, oh, he's the worst guy ever, you know? I'm like, I was having a bad day. I mean, come me some slack, you know, but I, yeah, I think that's all, man. I think that's everything. I mean, I think so. Well, I appreciate you making the drive. Yeah, absolutely.

And contacting me. Yeah, no, thank you for having me. How hard was it to contact me? Was it? I sent you a message on Instagram, I think, wasn't it? Yeah. Listen, sometimes I, some people contact me, a bro, I sent you three emails and, you know, and then other people are like, yeah, you sent you an email, you called me, and it was

a week ago and now I'm here. Yeah. So, you know, it's like hit or miss. Like, I always tell people or, you know, I'll say like, some people will say stuff in the comments. I'm like, bro, you got to email me. Yeah. Like, and then honestly, I get so many emails.

I may not respond. Like, you know, well, I sent you an email. You sent me one email. Like, you might have to send two or three emails, you know, I'll get to it. But if I'm having a bad couple of days, you know, it's fucking gets overwhelming. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, she didn't even think I work. She didn't even think this is work.

I know it definitely is it is yeah it's a lot I know it's stressful having to do any kind of when you're dealing with other people it's stressful listen I heard one time giving a one hour speech is this the equivalent of of an eight hour workday as far as stress is concerned probably she will look at look you see shake the head shaking yeah yeah that's not different I don't need to anymore right physical this is mentally stress It's smart. I think, I mean, why work in the heat when you could do this? I mean, we all don't get the brain. Stop. Anyway, listen, I'll talk to her later. No, it's all good. I've never wedged her. No? No. Not yet? No. Boy, there have been times. She's at, she's an avid seatbelt wearer. Yeah, that's good. Smart. Yeah. That's what you shouldn't be doing, right? You know what I'm talking about?

And he hit the fucking brakes and she, he wedged her. Yeah. She just went up between the windshield and the dashboard. Did I? Nice. No? Yeah. Well, my police report said, that's what you get in it.

And it was saying that that's what I said. That's what she told the cops is I said, that's what you get for. Never happened. You can't trust them. Yeah. They get, they're all emotional. exactly yeah let me wrap this up yeah this is going bad no all right okay thank you yes sir thank you for having me no problem you know are we doing it all right thank you guys for watching

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