Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Kevin Gates Impersonator on Losing NCAA YoungBoy, Getting Arrested, & More! | Clutch Williams

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

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This Kevin Gay's impersonation swept the internet, bro. NBA Young Boy was incarcerated at the time. I need to find who impersonates NBA Young Boy. I'm seeing money I've never seen before. Man, I'm on Facebook. Young boy impersonator got killed. I can't even explain, like, the pain and the guilt, bro, that I felt. Man, it's something that's kind of hard for me to talk about, bro.

Like, and you don't know until you get ready to talk about it, you know? Because like, this is something that I just thought it would be easy, but like as soon as I start saying it, like, all of them emotions like kind of hit me at once. So like, yeah, but we were standing negative and my mama met this dude, I don't call his name, but yeah, my mama met this dude. But yeah, my mama met this dude, and they're dating, they're doing whatever they're doing. So we stayed in a place called South Town in Naginish. And I used to always hear about this dude named Steve and his brother, like his brother was paralyzed or something, like his arm was stuck a certain type of way. You know, so they is who we call the cool pop lady.

You know, the person that said popsicles. People say, you know, but in Nage, they say cool pops, but most people, say popsicles. But she, they was the cool pop lady. So, you know, you take your dime, your quarter now and now, you know, get you a cool pop or whatever. So for the first time, the dude was outside, the dude that was paralyzed. You know what I'm saying? So I seen him and it was like, oh, dang, that's Steve brother right there. That's the dude they be talking about. I run home and like, Mama, guess who I seen? And her and the dude that she's talking to like who? I'm like, Steve brother.

So he was like, like, why this, you know, at the time, I'm like five or six. He's like, why this baby telling you he's seeing his dude? Like, like, what you and Steve brother got going on? So my mama, like, lost, like, you know what I'm saying? She's confused. And me at the time, not knowing I'm causing confusion or doing anything wrong, he got jealous that night is the first time I seen my mama get abused you know what I'm saying like I seen him push my mama down in the front yard and the reason why I was saying like

it's tough to talk about because my mama is a devout Christian out of all my years bro I never heard my mama curse one time I never heard her say a nasty word she never missed church uh I never heard her even listen to a secular song. That's how serious she was about, like, her salvation. You feel what I'm saying? So that's a lot of why I am the way that I am. You know what I'm saying? So I seem like trying to get up and he was just pushing her, you know.

And that right there, like, traumatized me. You know what I'm saying? It traumatized me. So from that day, them never even having a fight or argument, it just went left. Like, it went left. now like this is a coming thing I'm seeing it every day like every night and he was drinking you know he was like a like a dude that kept a beer in his hand at that time it was the beer in the brown you know the brown lit plastic bag you know what I'm saying he kept one so um

I'm seeing it every day they fighting every day me not knowing like I spearheaded this like I'm the reason behind this whole lit thing So, man, I'm talking about, bro, this guy's so bad until, like, my sister was pregnant. My sister was pregnant, and she tried to take up for my mama, and he, like, ended up, like, kicking or pushing or doing something to my sister. And, you know, I'm small. I'm probably, like, six or seven. So I'm trying my best to do whatever I could do. He swung me on the flow.

You know what I'm saying? Like, no, I'm looking at my elbows and like, dang, I'm injured. So we all in there, like, trying to, like, fight this dude and these fights getting worse and worse. And my mama is not really having a... She's so sweet and, like, non-confrontational. You know what I'm saying? Like, even after all that, she was still...

She was still, like, taken back. And, like, every time I've seen them, like, you know, I'm shook. Like, I'm knowing like, oh, man, he over here. They're going to fight tonight. Me, like I said, me not knowing this all came from what I said that day. He never trusted her after that. Like, he just went, you feel what I'm saying? So.

Why? Was there an issue with your mother and this guy's brother? It was nothing. Yeah, it was nothing. It was just all in his head. Because they all, like, when the dude had the accident, I heard my uncles was like, like, yeah, man, Steve, brother, he paralyzed. He, you know, blah, blah, blah.

So I've never got a chance to see him. Like, I'm like, dang, I want to see Steve, brother, because that's all they're talking about. So when I went and he was outside, like, he didn't want served me that day. Like, he gave me my cool pop that day. You know what I'm saying? So I put the money in his hand. Like, I'm a kid.

I'm like, oh, now I'm in with my uncles. I seen Steve brother, too. So I immediately ran home. Like, Mama, guess who I seen? Steve brother. But I'm saying, I'm saying your mother's boyfriend. So it was just in his head. Yeah, it was just, and it was just tripping in it, and it just kept going and going and going

and just getting worse and worse and worse. Now, he just don't trust it, and she like everybody, you feel what I'm saying? And my, like my pops at this point, my mama and my pops don't got no relationship because my pops is talking to somebody that we related to. You feel I'm saying? So my mom are pregnant. Why this happened? You know, like, when you're pregnant, you're going through different emotions or whatever, whatever.

So she's pregnant with me, and she ended up, like, I guess, like, dumping my pops or, like, not talking to him or whatever. And he'd get this new lady that's related to us, but he don't know. But by the time he finds out, you know, it's too late. They already did their thing. And, like, you know, that's a coming thing in the South. You feel what I'm saying? You might be talking to somebody two, three years and figure out, like, oh, Uncle, said, yeah, that's my Uncle, too. for real? Like, it didn't happen to me, no cap. I can't even get in it. I can't go into it like

that, but it happened to me, like more than once. Like more than once. I'll tell you real quick. This is going to be horrible. I went to a family reunion in Norway. And so, I mean, there's 150 people there. Right. And there's a chick that is across from me on the table, right? And we keep smiling and gritty. This is when I'm like 30 years old, right? And we're grinning each other and smiling and but I know we're all related the whole it's a family reunion she's smiling and flirting her mother even leans over to her and says stop flirting with your american cousin so at some point we start talking you know it was days like this is something went on for days so we go and she's like how are we are we related and I went I said I'm not sure she's hold let's find out we go and we

look, they have this huge graph on the wall. So we go, she's like, okay, your father and your mother, so your, so your grandfather was so-and-so, and he was the cousin of my so-and-so. She said, that makes you my, she says, that makes you my, that makes you my, that makes you our, my third cousin. And I looked at her and I said, listen, I'm from fucking the south. I said, that'll make you shit. Come on, man.

Third cousin. I said, we marry our first cousins. I said, third cousin. Third cousin. We're not lighted at all. Come on, man. Don't count. Look, yeah.

She looked that good. Right, right. Yeah, bro. Look, it happened, bro. And, like, I ain't just saying that because, you know, like, some people popularized that. You know, I'm serious, bro. Like, that's a normal thing. It happened to me more than once.

You know what I'm saying? So, Pop's talking to this. this lady that's related to us. You know what I'm saying? So my mama thought like, you know, I dumped him. He over there in misery. You know, he worrying about what's going on with me and his child. But my dad over there going with his move.

You know what I'm saying? Like he ain't really tripping how she wanted him to be tripping. You know what I'm saying? So she's thinking like, you know, she's going to go knock on the door. I'm like, hey, you learned your lesson. Stop playing with me. But she's going to knock on the door. Your cousin over here, you feel what I'm saying?

So now she, man, she's mad. Like, she got this real hate for my pop, bro. Like, my mama, man, bro, I grew up hearing the worst lies and stories. And it's crazy. My mama, DeVar Christian, but this is her, like, this is her kryptonite right here. This is her downfall. Like, this is her sin. Bro, she told me some of the worst.

And not that I'm older, I realize none of this has. had no validity to it, bro. She's just freestyling. Like, she's just freestyling. Just telling me the worst stuff. Like, I saw seeing your dad with three men before. You didn't know that, did you? Yeah, yeah.

Thank you all. You know, like, she just, every day. You feel what I'm saying? She's just coming with, because the old I'm getting, I'm getting curious. You feel what I'm saying? This is what I didn't know, bro. This is the kicker right here.

Me and my mama used to do your work together. Me as a little boy, we stayed in negative on July Street. and that's a popular place in negative that's why I go down there but um we stayed in negligence on July Street and the leaves used to fall

so we used to clean the leaves up and um oh I got I got to do this sidebar right quick hey I don't know your name bro but when we was little we got into it and you you picked up some dirt and you were going to hit me with some dirt

and I had a tennis racket behind my back and I hit him in the face with the tennis record and I just seen blood air well you know what I'm saying like I hit him in the nose and like blood was everywhere and he ran home and his mom and them came knocked on

my mom and them dough like yo baby hit my baby with a tennis record and you know I'm in the house hiding you know what I'm saying but I always wondered about that dude bro like if if you somewhere you watch this bro I apologize bro like for real I don't even know why I did that

because I kicked it off like I started it he was chilling You know what I'm saying? I was picking with him, bro. Like, bro, I really apologize for that, bro. He, uh, I hit him in his nose, bro, with the tennis record. Blood was there at well. And this happened on, uh, this happened on July Street.

But, uh, me and my mom was doing your at work. Ricking up the leaves. Yeah, we were raking up the leaves. I used to always see this dude come. Like, this dude used to come on this bicycle. And my mama used to just go crazy. She'll get the pitchfork or something and just, get away from here. Get out of this.

Don't come over here. I'm going to stab you. with this pitch for you know i didn't know until i got like 12 or 13 that that dude on that bike was my pops i didn't know that okay you know i just knew it was a this light-skinned dude that ride this bike that my mama don't like like whoever that man is i don't know what he did to my mama but my mama don't like him now you know what kind of like hatred you got to have for somebody to have all them encounters and not once tell me like, that dude is your dad.

Right. You feel what I'm saying? I really didn't, like, having a dad wasn't even like a real thing. Like, that was something like I had to like find out about. You know, I started discovering it. Like when I started getting friends, like, your dad, that's your daddy. Oh, I'm like, damn, I don't know what I ain't got one. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Same thing, quick sideboard, same thing with middle names. I did not know you were supposed to have a middle name. My home boy, his name Antonio Shannon, right? We at the award ceremony, and we both got on a roll. So he got his certificate. You know, they called him up. He got a certificate. And his certificate had Antonio Lewis Shannon.

And I was like, bro, who is Lewis? He was like, that's my middle name. And I'm looking at mine. I'm like, dang, they left my middle name off. You know what I'm saying? So I get home, I'm like, Mama, what's my middle name? name. You ain't got there. You ain't got no middle name. I'm like, huh? I'm like, everybody got middle. People had it on their certificate. Why I don't got no middle name? I don't know,

but I was in pain. I forgot. I'm like, I'm like, what? You forgot? Boy, I was hurting. You know how big your head was? You was a 10-pound baby. I was, woo, woo, boom. I wasn't thinking about that. And I'm like, bro, like, I really did have a moment after they're like, man, how you going to forget, you can't really love me, you forgot to give me a name. I'm out here, name just Jermaine Williams. You feel what I'm saying? And now, like, as a grown man, bro, when I'm giving my name to people, they be like, no, your full name, like Jermaine Williams.

Listen, sir, if you're not proud of your middle name and something that you don't like, you still have to share it with us for these purposes. And I'm like, no, my name is like Jermaine Williams. You feel? I'm saying. I always run into that, bro. But yeah, but I didn't, you know, having a dad was something I found out about like that, you know what I'm saying?

Shout out to my granny, Betsy Carter. But she, her and my daddy had a relationship. Her and my daddy was cool. You feel what I'm saying? My daddy and my grandma was cool. They got along. Him and my mama just didn't get along, you know, and that made her hate my daddy even more. Because my granny, I always be like, yeah, she moved over there.

She stayed over here. You know what I'm saying? Or she doing this. can always pull up on my granite and get the information, you feel what I'm saying? So when I was, like, 13, me and my granite was at this store in the aggregate, it's called McFarland. You know what I'm saying? Go down in McFarland.

But I seen him walk in the stove. I didn't recognize that he was the dude from the bike because now he had a Jericho long, you know, had the bill with the paper, you know what I'm saying? He walking in the store. My grin was like, man, that's your daddy right though. And I'm like, what? She was like, yeah, that's your daddy. Go in the store.

Go in there. That's your dad right there. So I walked in the stove. He gave me a hug. You know, he just stared at me. Like, this is my first time ever, like, touching them or being close to him. You know what I'm saying? He just standing at me.

I never forget. He had a dollar and a quarter in change. And the lady tried to give him the change, and he was just doing me like, that's you. So at this time, bro, like, we're so broke. Man, bro, listen, I don't, I don't, I don't feel like it's another family in America that was as broke as us, bro. When I say broke, I don't, and see, we, we, we got to get this together. We got to get this in a proper context because it's levels to broke, you know?

Like, it's levels to broke. And people be thinking they broke and you're not broke. You don't even know where broke is. You know, I just got to say it just like that, you don't know what being broke is a bite because I had partners complaining about they don't like the kind of juice they mama buy. And they didn't even understand, boy, I sell my soul for that juice. Like, I sell my soul for a gallon of juice.

You know what I'm saying? I didn't know what that, bro. I didn't know what that was. Water. When that's on. When the water was on. Like, this ain't no cap, bro. Like, we were so broke.

It used to be, like, a surprise when, like, if you flick the light and it, come on. You know what I'm saying? Me and my sister be like, the lights on. Like, what happened? Like, who did this? Like, the lights on in here. You know what I'm saying? Twist the water.

Come on. Like, you know, you open the icebox. You see something in the other. Like, we whispering, like, what's going on? Some chicken in icebox. Who's for? I don't know. Like, that's the, that's how broke we were, bro, it's field trips that cost it a dollar.

I missed them all. I didn't, I swear to God, bro. I missed my, it was a dollar. I remember, I bought, shout out to my, shout out to my neighbors, Matt Hudson, bro. Like, he, like, he liked just the dude in the, in the neighborhood. Like, he's a real father. He takes everybody, he makes everybody straight. Even if you ain't in his household, you know, like, he just, he just hold everything down.

Shout out, shout out to Mac Hudson. But I remember, my mama borrowed, like, I think, like, $5 from them and gave me a dollar to go on the field trip. Feel what I'm saying? It's just how broke we was. That night, she baked some biscuits and, like, did, like, some ground meats. to make me something like a sandwich, because that's what kids took. But we didn't have, like, bread and, like, you know, ham or whatever.

So she kind of, like, got some ingredients and made me a sandwich, you know what I'm saying? I got teased. Like, I'm coming with the plastic bag, with the, you know, like the, my version of a sandwich and everybody, like, what's that? Oh, Drane, what you eat? He got them, you know.

So, like, bro, we, we was poor, bro. Like, I used to fantasize about cereal. I used to want cereal so bad, bro. Like, like, honestly, I used to just sit and think, like, man, when I get grown, bro, I'm going to get fruit loops, frosted flakes, like, all the cereal I want. You know what I'm saying? That was my desires as a kid. I didn't want much, bro.

I used to, like, man, I can't wait until I get older so I can know how, like, a snicker bar taste. You know what I'm saying? Like, I want one. Come on. Bro, I'm serious. Bro, I'm so serious. I got my first name brand pair of shoes in the ninth grade.

I was in high school. Like my whole middle school year, they used to call them like flow burners or something like that. That's what I had. Like Walmart. And then in Mansfield, which is kids, bro,

in Mansfield is harsh, bro. Like growing up there, how they do is joke and talk about it and pick you apart. Like, as soon as you get in school, they're looking for the flaw. You know what I'm saying? And I wasn't used to that because kids in Naglish really didn't care what you were.

Like, they weren't on that. Like, they ain't paid attention to your outfit or whatever. So coming to a mansfield, like having somebody looking you up and down, you know. Right. So I, in school, we used to have to, everybody going to gym and they call your name, your teacher come, and they call your name, you got to walk out the bleachers and go get in the line with your teacher. So everybody going to get a chance to see these shoes that you got on. You know what I'm saying?

Every time I get up, bro, that's all I here. You know what I'm saying? Bro, I was traumatized. On top of that, on top of that, now the shoes, that's bad. I'm going through that. They joking. Yeah, you know, you got on them wobble. You got Spaldings and, you know, all these.

And people don't probably even remember Spalding. You know what I'm saying? But, so my mama has. a green station wagon on top of me having them shoes and we finally got a vehicle that was the cost you had a green station wagon so it was getting teased about the shoes into the green station wagon you know what I'm saying like I was really I was really like picked on and teased the lot like coming up you know what I'm saying and that's why you see me I got like weight on me because you got the cereal I got finally did get some cereal I got tired of getting picked on bro

so shout out to coach Mayweather but my high school coach like introduce me to weights, you know. And he like, he like a, like a sergeant, lieutenant, you know, like everybody in the world respect to him. You know, like everybody in a man, feel like super respect this dude. Like when he come, I could help, you know, I could have. And I remember one day in the barbershop, he don't come in that often, but like he walked in the barbershop.

We was all in that playing and talking. Everybody got quiet until he spoke. He spoke and like, hey, what's going on? Everybody, oh, okay, went back to talking. That's just the kind of respect that he got, you know. But he had to talk with me. He was like, man, look, bro, you're going to have to, like, get aggressive. You know, you're going to have to stop letting people push you around and, you know, get on these weights.

And I took it to the head, you know, so I just, you know what I'm saying? I just got on the waist. But yeah, but I used to get picked on, bro. Back to my mama and my dad. Back to my mom and my daddy. So my grandma introduced me to him. And I finally, you know, knew who he was. So my mama turned the stories up.

Like, it was bad, but she got any way. worse. When she found out like, oh, your granny, you know, I told her like, mom, I seen my daddy. Oh, bro, she almost, she almost lost it. She was like, what? Your daddy, who told you that? Your daddy, what you seen your daddy? I'm like, Medea, um, introduced me at the store. Yeah, I told her about that. I told her about that. That's why I didn't want you to go, you know, so I ended up, uh, after that, she made sure I didn't see him again for probably about another six or seven years. You know what I'm saying?

I didn't. And I was, because I met him, I was asking about him. And, bro, that go on so much. Shout out to all the dudes that's suffering from a bitter baby mama, bro. And you can't do nothing about it. They got to set up. You're going to lose. Because if, if, and this, bro, let me just say this.

And yes, I'm passionate about this. For reasons. For reasons I'm passionate about this, bro. This painful. Y'all be playing with, y'all be playing. y'all be playing with people kids women y'all need to stop bro they're evil bro they evil and build a baby mammas what is what you say better baby mammas bro man they control the world that can in our urban communities this dominates the conversations in the barbershops in the

bitter baby mamas bro you feel me uh-huh meaning they don't have the emotional intelligence to, like, let this child represent what it's supposed to represent. Because they're evil and emotional, they start to weaponize the child. Right. Like, oh, I got leverage. So if you don't do this, you ain't going to see the child. Or, you know, and a lot of times it don't come out like that, but that's what they're doing. but they donned it in the way that if the dude explode,

they didn't did it so discreetly like they're going to, what's wrong with him? He just, I don't know, girl, he's just cracking crazy. He just came over here and started busting my wonders and knocked over the car. I don't know what's wrong with him. And the whole time this man been begging you nicely for a month to see his child. But now when he, okay, just say this. Check me out. You have an argument, right?

Just say somebody come in. And you got a brand new car. They come bust the windows out. Or they run into the back of your car. You feel what I'm saying? Automatically, you're going to have an emotional response to this, bro. Automatically. Automatically, you're going to be passionate about, it's my new car.

You're allowed to do that about your belongings, but you're not allowed to be passionate about your children. You feel what I'm saying? If you're doing something to hurt my child and I raise my voice, I'm an angry black man, and I can go to jail for that, and that can be disturbing a piece. But if somebody is disrespecting your stuff and there ain't on your property, you know, you got all these legal rights to do all this stuff when it's your property or it's your things. But when it come down to, if a man is passionate about his child, they use it against us.

You know what I'm saying? See, someone she can't come see you right now. You're screaming, baby. Why are you hollering? You're all mad and you. This is what I should be mad about. This is my child. You ruining their life.

That's why I'm so passionate. And I just, I hate the fact that we can be passionate about anything except for our children. When it's your children, you're not, that's not passion. It's anger. It's, uh, malice. It's, you feel what I'm saying? And, bro, like, that's like, that's like, bro, I know. so many dudes suffering, bro.

Like, I know so many dudes suffering. Just want to see their kids. You feel me? Just want to be able to... And then, you know, like, you get monitored. Okay, if you're going to see them, I'm going to be down your back. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to watch you, and they can only do this, and they can only do that.

You know what I'm saying? Can't be around your new girlfriend. Never. Never. Now, they... They sneak their little dudes over there, bro. They sneak their dudes over there. They do everything around the kids.

kids in the aisle, but try to bring, matter of fact, I got a thing I do on Facebook. Every time I see one of my partners with their new girl or something and they're smiling, I come in and say, child support head ass. You know what I'm saying? That's my comment. You go check it. Because I know, like, I'm basically telling you, boy, you think there's going to go like that.

You don't hear cheesy with your new old lady. Child support some kind of, in some way is coming. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, bro, but that's a struggle, bro. man, shout out to all the dudes that's suffering, brother, they're just trying to see their kids. And they, baby, mama, is the real devil, bro. You feel what I'm saying?

And I'd be telling people that don't want to believe me, bro. Satan is a woman, bro. Satan is a female, man. I'm for real, and I don't want to get into that. You know what I'm saying? Let's move on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. What?

Okay, go ahead. No, no, not. But, okay, with my dad, my mama made sure I didn't see him again for a long time. This is how we end up moving the man. My mama finally got the, like, the gall to say, okay, enough is enough. You know what I'm saying? So we moved out of our house. We went to our grandma's house, and he still, he found out my mom was in my grandma's house.

He used to come knock on the door, you know, every day. But my grandma didn't play. You know, she'll wake up finally out there. You know what I'm saying? She's strapped. She's ready to get it on. Like, hey, listen, Barry, you got two seconds to get away from my door. and he know my mom he know my granite when you know my granite went playing like that you know what

this is a different grandmother because you said he was friends with the one no no no my granite was friends with my pops with my bio dad okay this is the abusive stepdad that's coming to her house to try to see my mama you know what I'm saying and uh but my um shout out to my uncle ran my uncle ran a gangster you know what I'm saying big old big old gangster he gave he this first time I ever seen his gun. But he found out what was going on. He gave my mama a Uzi. You know what I'm saying? Like, and my mama don't even know what to do with it, but it was in our closet. Like, he pulled up to our house and lost it. He's like, you know, Rubber, what's going on? You know, he's putting his hands on you. But my mama know my uncle crazy.

So my mama kind of watered it down. No, Randy, that ain't going on. That ain't, that ain't what happened. Blasee, Blasee. So he come in the house with a big, with a big, yeah. I'm to my son. something this shot. You know what I'm saying? Like, listen, come back in here, do this. I want you to put it on him. He's showing her how to cock it and shooting. You know, my mama ain't fin to use it, but my uncle just, you know what I'm saying?

So, like, that's more trauma. Now I'm like, oh, God, somebody's going to get shot. I'm in the bed laying down, thinking I'm feeling here the gun go off, you know what I'm saying? But, yeah, that's how we ended up in Mansfield. So the kids was, like, teasing me in Mansfield, not even understanding, like, I'm really, like, broken and traumatized. and hurt. You know what I'm saying? Like, bro, I don't want to argue with y'all. I don't want to fuss. We just move to Mansfield. There's no furniture in our house. The lights ain't on. The water

ain't on. You feel what I'm saying? No cap, bro. Mike sounds sad I ain't trying to put on. We moves our new house in Mansfield, right? It was, it was some, like, some molded bread and some pickle mayonnaise left on the table. And a five. gallon bucket of water and this i guess who whoever was standing uh left it and it was on july 18th get excited this is big for the summer's biggest adventure i think i just smurf my pants that's a little too excited sorry smurfs only did this july 18th like smooth like this much water and it was it was uh it was trash in the water too you know what I'm saying my mama was in Nagedish working.

You know what I'm saying? She'll go from Naginage to, but we didn't handle transportation, so she had to wait until somebody bring her to Mansfield. You know what I'm saying? But we was in Mansfield. You know what I'm saying?

She had already transported us to Mansfield. Bro, it got, me and my sister got so hungry, we started eating this molded bread and this pickle mayonnaise that had been left out for days

and this was the summertime. We was drinking this water with trash in it, bro. Like, no cap. That's what we was doing. You feel what I'm saying? The thing about it is, I just felt like all that was normal. I was accustomed to that.

You know what I'm saying? I just felt like all that was normal because that's how we was living. Even like air conditioners, bro, like in the summertime, all the windows up, everybody laid on the flow, sweating. It was hot. I wasn't even dreaming about thinking about it. no AC, because that's for rich people. That's for people that got money. Not us.

You know what I'm saying? And I'm just trying to be as descriptive as possible to let you know how broke I was and what I went through. So that's why, man, you got people that came from that. You really can't put them, if they started in a negative to that degree, what do you expect from these individuals? You know what I'm saying? Where do you think that they're supposed to be in life?

You feel what I'm saying? How do you think they're supposed to act mentally? And the world is so sad, bro, like, if that person react a certain type of way, the jailhouse for all of them, the people that can handle that can't. You know, ain't that special for you if you go through that and you can't handle it and you get out here and start acting crazy and responding to the, bro, you're going to jail. You feel what I'm saying? Don't nobody care about that. You started in the negative and you, you know what I'm saying? But, like, I just want to be descriptive as possible to let you know, bro.

I was broke, bro. I starved. I was hungry. That's why I'm fat right now. Bro, I weigh 320. I'm 320 pounds. I eat everything. I eat everything, bro.

Like, that's my reputation. People know that. Like, people know, like, man, that boy greedy. He don't never stop eating. He don't even invite him over here. He ain't going to eat it all. You know what I'm saying? When I see food, from me being traumatized as a child, my mind still says,

boy, you better eat as much of that as possible. You don't know. The next time you're going to eat. You feel what I'm saying? I swear, bro, I haven't been with females before. And we're in a restaurant, and I'm just going in. And they're like, wait, stop. It's yours.

It ain't going nowhere. What's wrong with you? And I really have to realize like, damn, why I'm eating like that? You know, but I'm traumatized, bro. like, I starved. You feel what I'm saying? As a child, you know? So, uh, I'm thinking about

Dalsey when we went to dinner with Dalsey. That's funny you said that because exactly what I was thinking. I was like, I wonder if that was the same situation. Dalsy, we, uh, we interviewed him. Great interview. I've known him forever.

And we, we went out to dinner afterward. Uh, and I mean, he is just talking while he's eating and just shoveling it. And we were like, I was like, bro, I was like, you're a fucking savage, bro. Like, what are you doing? And I'm, and I'm like, I mean, we're in a restaurant.

Like, what do you? I've never seen this since Coleman. Like you, and he was like, I'm hungry. I know, I know what he's talking. I know. So anyway, he's talking. Foods fall in everything. It's like, this is, I've never seen anything fucking like this.

Right. Right. Look, I promise. And he's got tons of money. But he grew up very poor. That's, man, that's what it is because I, not, not, me and my home boys went to Golden Corral. You know, that's what they do when they want to, you know, they'll treat me.

So he, uh, my homeboy Bradhead took me to Golden Corral. So, you know, I'm just doing my house. thing like this what i do so this lady sitting next to me she was like excuse me sir i don't i don't mean to get in your business but you're gonna be sick you know and i said politely ma'am listen i know how it may look but i'm a professional like this is what i do i'm gonna be good you know what i know i know it might look crazy but i got it like this what i do and my partner's like like nah this he just getting started you know what i'm saying they stopped there and watched she was done eating. She was just over there just looking. Picking a phone up, sneaking pictures. You know what I'm

saying? Like, real deal, bro. Man, I grew up starving, bro. And I still, that's why my weight fluctuate. You know what I'm saying? You might see me one week. I'm going to be sexy, looking lean, face skinny. The next week, bro, I'm, you know, got the deep white stomach sticking out, you know, pants, clothes, fitting crazy. You know what I'm saying? But I, um, but yeah, though, that's, you know, like growing up, bro, I had a rough child of it, bro. It was tough, bro. Like, I went through some stuff as a child, bro.

But the only thing is my mama just kept us rooted. My spirituality toaded me through all of that, bro. Like, my belief in my faith kept me through all of that because the only thing I had in them time, I always was dreaming. I was always dreaming. Like, broke and poor, I still believed that one day I can be on TV.

That was my thing. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I never not dreamed through all of that. We was going through the worst circumstances, but I always felt like I got an opportunity to make it. Like, I can really, you know, I can really be something. So when you got to high school, like, when did you start, like, boxing? Like, and it wasn't really like a class or something.

It was just, like, self-educate myself on how to defend myself. You feel what I'm saying? Because, bro, that's the worst thing for these kids. That's the biggest fear, bro, getting beat up. You know, like, I don't understand, I don't, I don't know if people understand, like, how treacherous that is to, and I don't know if I pronounce that right, treacherous. Traumatizing. Yeah, to a kid, bro.

Like, when you think somebody's going to beat you. you up and every kid's head, I'm going to get in a fight and I'm going to get unalived. You know, so that's kind of like the scariest thing like growing up. You feel what I'm saying? And this is the kicker. You have these kids that feel this way and you got some other kids that got their feet with already and they see like that it ain't that bad. Now all the rest of them kids that they know is having that dilemma, they fool,

Now, I'm going to use that against you. I'm going to weaponize it. I said some to you and respond like a person that will fight and defend their self. I'm on you the whole year. Give me that. Give me this. We in the, you know, we impede, pass me the ball. You know what I'm saying?

You better pass it, shoot it if you want to. That's what's going on. You feel what I'm saying? With a lot of these kids. And when you got all these crimes, like they're just springing that out. You got to understand. We forget this when we get grown. We forget what matters.

to us as children and how serious things was as kids, because when you get to being adult, you know, all the mysteries kind of go out the window. You feel what I'm saying? Like, you know what's at the end of the tunnel. But kids have yet to figure that out, and they're scared. So anytime you see a kid being bullied or it even look like that, bro, I deal with it. I deal with it. I don't care who kids it is.

I don't care who they, mama, who they related to. In my neighborhood, my city, whatever I'm met. If I see a kid even look like they get picked on, I intervene. I'm getting everybody talks and lectures. I don't care about that. Bro, I was, my daughter, my daughter had a little situation where she kept saying, you know, Dad, they're picking, like they picking on me. My daughter's super sweet, bro.

She's super sweet. She don't want to do nothing but just live in her, like her fairy tale, Cinderella cartoon world. She wouldn't hurt a fly. Like, she's so lovable. And, you know, so, and I ain't just saying that because that's my kid, you know. She's, that's what she is. You feel what I'm saying?

So she was just telling me like, Dad, I'm getting picked on. You know, like this girl is doing this and this girl is doing that. As soon as I hear that, automatically I'm ready to go to the penitentiary. Like I'm ready. Whatever this brain behind my daughter, however many years, this brain, man, bring that to me. I'm trying to, I'm trying to do that. That's how I feel about my child, you feel me? So I went to the school and I'm talking to the principal and I'm like, yeah, bro, I need to speak to that teacher.

The janitor come and tell me like, yeah, bro, I just heard the teacher like kind of joking. on that little girl with the kids. She's scared of the kids. So she's trying to be in cahoots with them. And she told, she told your daughter something like, oh, you must be having a mental breakdown. Oh, bro. When I seen red, bro. I seen, when I heard that, I can't even explain how angry that was.

So I'm planning cool. I'm in there talking to the principal nights because I need my attitude. to be presented in a way that he feel comfortable letting his teacher come in front of me. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm a little too big. If I turn up, he's going to be like, no, keep her down in the classroom. Don't bring her. So I mean, I'm like, yeah, I just want to talk to her.

You know, my daughter's having problems. You know, I'm putting my professional voice on. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, my daughter's having a problem. He's bringing her. I start grilling him. I'm grilling. Like, yeah, what, um, my, one thing I talk to my daughter.

Communicate, speak effectively, look people in the eye. Talk fluent, talk. So when I started asking, when I started asking my daughter questions, she was on point. She was saying it clear like, yes, on this certain day, you said this to me and you told me I was a liar and you said this and you laughed and you, so she embarrassed and she's sweating.

I'd go off, start calling her every name in the book. I'm not threatening everybody. Now, the principal, the principal trying to protect her. You know what I'm saying? And he was like, sir, she already answered that question. I'm like, hey, man, you shut up. I'm not talking to you. I'm going to deal with you after this.

Because I see this, why they behaving like this. Because you weren't here protecting them. And you're supposed to be protecting the kids. All this stuff going on with these kids. And you worry about it. Is this teacher feelings get hurt? She ran out of the office. That's how much pressure I was putting on them.

I ran behind them. No cap. My daughter tell you, I chased. If you ever, all the kids in the hallway, like, oh, my God. I'm in the hallway like, everybody in this school can get it. You know what I'm saying? I'm having it. So the security came.

I'm sure. Look, the security came and I'm bucked on the security. No, this store ain't no gas. Like my daughter here with me right now, she'll tell you, on Jesus, Benoit Chaville, Christ. This is the truth. You feel what I'm saying? I'm bucked on it.

I'm in the hallway, so the security guard, he came nice, though. He walked up to me nice. He was like, look, man, I understand. stuff can happen about your kids but you know please you can't do this is you know i respected that he tried to do his job he was respectful i love you feel what i'm saying but like man if your child is telling you that they got a problem and they're getting bullied i ain't telling you to handle it like i handled it because me thinking logically me thinking logically it's a lot of ignorance and incorporated with that. I can honestly say that. You feel

I'm saying? But you got to deal with these kids, bro. Like, that's a lot that, man, they go through a lot. And they aren't emotionally intelligent enough to, like, sort this stuff out. They just looking for an exit. They just want to get away. And a lot of times, that's what results into these, you know, like into what they, them harming themselves or something like that. You feel I'm saying? Because they don't know how to get out. That's why you as a parent got to tell them, look, this is the way out. This is how we're going to escape this. Right.

You feel what I'm saying? But yeah, I moved my daughter to like a new school that day, you know what I'm saying? Even though it was like $800 a month, you know what I'm saying? I took it down on that with, no offense, you know. Y'all are my people, you know, I'm rock with y'all. And I used to be white when I was a baby, too. But I took it down now with the white folks. You know what I'm saying?

I took it down there with the white people. She, I go check on this school, brus she in there doing art. and they and, you know, they're in the woo's son and expressing their feelings and she, Dad, I went to chapel today. I learned about Daniel in the lines then. Baby, yes.

See, this is we, you know what I'm saying? I took it on there with the white folk. We ain't got no problems. Everybody nice, everybody respectful. I'm, you know, I'm at school checking on my daughter little kids coming up. Kennedy, my mom baked cookies today. Have some?

You know what I'm saying? My daughter, sure. You see me? Bro, that's what I. That's the life I want for my child. I'm not sending her back over there with them kids. Don't know how to treat people picking on and, you know, doing that. I ain't doing that, bro.

So y'all, whatever y'all need to do to make sure your kid is good, do that, bro. Send them with them folks. So I have a quick question. Go ahead, go ahead. You know this is like a true crime show, right? Right. Is there a crime coming up? Is there some kind of a criminal?

thing. I mean, I'm trying to work, I'm trying to work with you. Man, look, bro. Like, you're not, we're not, we're not moving, are we moving towards that? Right. Like, like, I, um, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, high school, high school, I'm assuming has something to do with high school, you in high school. Okay. Because high school, learn to fight it. Lead to that. Okay. Boom. So, so, so, so, and, in high school, I started hanging with these, uh, this dude like Kobe Wilson, Chris Rankin. You know, they're gangsters, bro. They gangsters. They, they had like the young kid, they had it on lock. You knew don't play with these dudes, bro. They, whatever. They gun violence. They, they, you know, they're shooting

up your house, your car, whatever. They're fighting you, whatever. In high school. Bro. And we 13, 14. These people got big. This is middle school. That's like middle school. And then my partner, Colby, he the coldest running back in the state in middle school. And he's still at home, got big pistols and fighting. You know what I'm saying? But me and him played running back and tailback. I mean, I played fullback. He played running back.

So that's how I kind of started getting cool with him. Like that fear that I had in me, like, you know, somebody say something to me, I wouldn't. Well, they didn't hesitate. Every day I'm with them. Somebody say the wrong thing. They on them. Boop, pooh, boop. Every day, bro.

Like, I was seeing this, so I ended up getting jumped one day. You know, I ain't going to go into detail, but these dudes jumped on me about this little situation. So I seen Kobe, he was like, bro, what happened? I'm like, but these dude jumped on me. He was like, man, let's go over there right now. We went over there. I'm to my man, big, big old melee. We all in the fear about to fight.

Boom, boom, boom, boom. Now, after that day, I started getting. confidence. You know what I'm saying? So we start working now. We're doing push-ups because Kobe, you know, he swore, you know what I'm saying? Like, he was like 13, but he looked at like 19-20-year-old. He was big, so he had just, you know, he's showing me how to work out and stuff like that. So now I'm kind of losing that fear. Now I turn into, you know, I'm the predator. You feel me? Now, it's dangerous, bro. Once you feel that power, you never want to go back to that other side.

So you take this further and further and further. You feel what I'm saying? No, I'm fighting. I'm, man, I want all the phase. I'm accepting all the phase. And this ain't no cap because people be coming on these things and saying, whatever. Man, you can ask anybody from where I'm from. They'll tell you, man, that boy liked that.

He'll fight anything. A line, a tiger, a bell. He really, he ain't got no field. I've seen him fight two, three people. They had sticks. Like the stories you be hearing that sound like it's cap. they're true with me bro like real there and i don't i don't project that because that ain't what i want nobody i'm too talented to be talking about all this stuff i did this and that i'd be leaving

that out but since you know it's this kind of podcast you know we talk about true crime talk about stuff i'm giving it to you but like you feel me yeah so i start i start fighting now everybody's scared for me my mama because this didn't happen in my family people that on both side, my mama's side and my daddy's side, you know what I'm saying, where you got somebody that's known for fighting and they end up getting killed, you know what I'm saying? So like my, my mama afraid for me because she kind of done seeing this before, you know what I'm saying? So every weekend, bro, I'm getting into something.

You know what I'm saying? I'm playing football. I'm being successful. But it's fighting, me, Kobe, and Chris. You know, and we study adding on more members. but we're getting this reputation now you feel what I'm saying and I'm I finally see what it feel like to be on the other side you feel what I'm saying bro that's dangerous bro now I've got this like power search okay now I'm not scared to fight and my thing is now don't disrespect me

disrespect me as consequences that's what I'm trying to live by because that's what I've been led to believe you feel what I'm saying right that's what I'm trying to do like that's what i want my life to to uh signify like don't play with me don't disrespect me you feel i'm saying so i end up uh this is this is how this is fighting and stuff bro like led to me having my first experiences with jail and something that i never wanted to i never wanted to go to jail bro i've always been afraid of jail and if you're out there i want I want you all to understand this. If you're out there, I want you to understand this.

It's a different between people that's afraid of people and people that's afraid of jail. I ain't scared of nobody, nothing. I want all the smoke. But jail, petrified. You feel me? Petrified.

I got to say this because it tied into my whole story as a whole. What made me even, my uncle ran it that I was telling you about earlier, that gave my mama the Uzi to put it on my stepdad because he was doing what he was doing. Right. He was, I never seen this dude, bro.

He went to the boys home one time. He never stopped. I never got a chance to see my uncle. He was in and out of jail and I just kind of seen what he was going through so it kind of put this fear of jail in me.

You feel me? This one made it worse, though. It's a movie that, I know Oprah in the movie I think it's called Brewster's Place Oprah plays in the movie and she got a son named Weasel And Weasel

In the movie It portray all this stuff that he's going through And he keep coming crimes And keep going to jail You feel what I'm saying? It ended up You know he'll always get out She'll be there, I cook for him

Be happy to see him Next thing you know he's gone back to jail he ended up catching like a serious charge and he called her and I heard Oprah say to him in the movie like son that's that's it you know I'm at the end of my rope I can't do nothing else for you that ain't gonna never let you out oh bro that scarred me me as a kid I cried on that scene bro I cried I still remember I was in my grandma house I used to sleep on the floor I was watching the TV my mama heard me crying she asked me like what was wrong with you I'm down on it hurting my feelings, bro.

It hurted me to see like, dang, he ain't never getting nothing. His mama can't even save him. That movie psychologically made me afraid to ever get in that situation. You feel me? My first time going to jail after that and, you know, now I feel like I'm a fighter. I'm this bad person. And really because I'm physically stronger than everybody. I didn't put all my work into these weights and you know what I'm saying so my my uh my girl at the

time I called how old were you uh at this time I was probably like 19 I'm fresh I'm fresh out of high school like I'm going to college in Northwestern State you know what I was a screaming demon but um my girl at the time I called her you know and I don't want to get into that because I don't want y'all to, you know, I ain't trying to get, get. But yeah, I caught her, bro. You know what I'm saying? She was doing something, and she was doing it so smooth. It was confusing me for a long time.

And I caught her by the fault. You know, like I caught about the fault because I was, I told this dude that used to stay in this house. He used to stay next to the house where she used to hang out of it with her friend. So I was like, hey, bro, if you see. Woo, woo, woo, man, hit me up. You know, let me know. So he called me.

I'm in the barbershop. Couldn't help. You know what I'm saying? I'm couldn't have for her. Buy her shoes and stuff and keep her living a certain type of way and you out your plan. Anyway, I'm in the, I'm in a shop. I'm cutting hell on Jesus, but no, and Christ. Couldn't hell.

Boom. He called. Hey, bro. I just seen. I take off. It's like three blocks. I'm running. You know what I'm saying?

Trying to catch something. the dude who I thought she was with who I thought she was cheating on me with it wasn't him it was his brother so soon as I hit the street I see her jump out of his truck you feel what I'm saying soon as I hit the street and I'm like oh this was you feel what I'm saying and he was way older than me too he was way older than me too he was way older than me. me. I couldn't do nothing with him. He had like an avalanche, a black avalanche. I ain't going to get in out of that because, you know, people might know. But like, man, the avalanche was clean. I even liked it. So I know she liked it. It was pressure. I, you know what I mean, I swear to God,

on Jesus, Dwayne Christ, the avalanche, I seen her hop out of it. And that's what kind of hurt me, because I knew I lost. Like, man, I can't do nothing with that avalanche. What I'm a do, bro? I ran over here. You know what I'm saying? I know she wanted to be in that avalanche, bro. You feel me? So I go over there and nut up. You know, I'm over there. Hey, boy, when I catch you, I'm trying to use my, you know what I'm saying?

So I ain't going to lie. He's come. He's cool. He's like, man, bro, whatever, bro. You hurt. You know what I'm saying? That hurt even worse. You got, you know what I'm saying?

When you got somebody that's just all laid back and smooth, like, man, you're going to be all right, bro. Just chill. This is making me even mad. So I started punching the truck. that his brother and his girlfriend was in. So his brother hopped out like, you know, he's mad now. He's mad, boy, when I see him, I do, woo, woo, woo, who. So in my head is up, you know, like me and him had this argument.

He said what he was going to do to me. I said what I was going to do to him. Now, I ain't take his brother as a threat, but I really felt like me and him, you know, like he might try it. I see him at a football game and, bro, this was. was one of the worst things I ever did because I didn't think about this. One of my closest friends, the most genuine, one of the most genuine dudes I ever met, bro. I loved him to death. Man, he stayed on the good side of town and he didn't care about you coming to his house,

playing his game, wearing his shoes, eating their food up. Man, I'm talking about one of the, one of the realest dudes I ever met. His name is Montre White. You know what I'm saying? He's from my city. But, like, bro, I had genuine love for this dude because he was one of the best people that I encountered all through school.

He was just always a real dude. I didn't think about the fact that, like, this was his relative. You feel what I'm saying? And, like, how can I say that you're my partner if I'm willing to hurt somebody that you love or do something to him? I went on that at the time.

And I still be thinking about that to this day. You know, I still be thinking about like, man, I'm a call that dude. And just, but he's just such a cool layback national line person. He probably, you know, he probably would, he, he probably just like, ah, bro, you know, that's old. But, like, I really still be thinking about that to this day because I look at that like, it's betrayal. And, and I be thinking about like, man, I could have really, like, like, hurt that dude, you know, like, in a certain type of way of, he felt like we was, we was, we was too cool or too good of friends for me to. make that move, but I didn't see him in that situation.

I didn't consider him, but that's what friends do. They consider each other. They consider each other friends. So, you know, I'm very apologetic about that right now as a grown man. You feel what I'm saying? But I see dude at the game. You know, I see him at the game, at the football game. It's homecoming.

You feel me? The girl I was talking to at the time, she's on the homecoming court. And she was still in high school. You feel what I'm saying? So she's on the homecoming. She got her little stuff on, whatever, whatever. I see him, I'm not sure if I want to do nothing because it's police out here and everybody, you know,

it's a lot of people, it's homecoming. Ah, but I'm on, you know, I'm trying to be on this. He played with me, you know, he disrespected me. I got, I got to do that. We got to do this. You feel what I'm saying? His girl said, come on, let's go on and go. Because I know how you is.

So I'm like, you know how he is. This was making me feel plagued. It ain't him, it's her. She's like, yeah, come on and get in the car because I don't want you to hurt nobody. So I didn't hurt who? You know, it went up just like that. It went up, boom. I end up hitting him.

You know what I'm saying? I hit him and I took off. I ran because I know these police out should. They everywhere. You know, homecoming is a big deal where I'm from. I hit him and I ran. I ain't going to even cap. I'm going to keep it 100.

I took off. You know what I'm saying? I look back. My two homeboys behind me. They're running with me. You know what I'm saying? So we run neighborhood from over there, from in front of the school. We're in the bushes.

Bro, this is how I know. I don't want to do no crime. And I don't want to, you know, I'm afraid of jail. While we're in the bushes, we're whispering. We start seeing ambulance. You know, we say ambulance and sirens. Oh, that's not good. Oh, bro.

Look, I'm in a bush like this. God, please. If you, God, if he living, if you make it so, I didn't hurt him, I promised God, I never put my hands on nobody else, God, please. You just punch him once? I hit him one time. And he fell. He fell, you know, but you got to understand.

I'm bench pressing, you know, 400 some pounds at the time. You know, I'm a big dude. That's all I do. all I do is work out. You know what I'm saying? You can't tell now because you know I'm a little chunky. But yeah, bro, like I really thought in my head,

I'm like, man, what if he passed? I'm going to go to jail for life. I'm over there, no cap. Let me keep it all the way real. My eyes watery. Right. My eyes watery. I'm in the bushes.

I'm just, God, please. Please, God, if you let me out of this, I swear I'm done fighting them. I ain't fight no more. You know what I'm saying? I found out myself, you know, I ain't, I ain't one of them. I ain't like that. I don't want to go to jail.

You know what I'm saying? And I'm cool with that. You're not cut out for it. Yeah, I'm cool with that. You feel me? But the police ended up coming to my house picking me up. You know what I'm saying? Matter of fact, we had struck like a little deal.

He put it out there, like, through some mutual people, like, okay, if you just stay away from this girl and you, you know, whatever, whatever. We'll call a spade a spade, but I was still talking to her. And he found out, so he went on, pressed the charges or whatever. Police come pick me up. Bro, this was like one of the worst things that ever happened to me, bro. Police picked me up. They put me in jail and, you know, I'm going through getting my little mug shot and all this, bro.

I'm petrified. I finally, I'm in a holding cell. The holding cell is what run you crazy. You know, because you really don't know what's going to go on. The hold of sale, you're in that by yourself. You don't hear no voices or nothing. You're just in that chilling. This is how they do jail in the parish in Mansfield.

You go in the holding cell until they get wherever they're going to put you. I'm in the holder cell. I'm waiting on them to come and do whatever. They come and put me in 200. You know what I'm saying? That's what we call it. Like, it got like 200, 400, 600, 600, by crimes. You know, at 200, that means you know, I ain't really doing that in that series.

Right. You know, but the bad dudes might be in like 700 or, you know, something like that. And I don't really know, but that's, you know, that's how I go. So they put me in 200. I see a couple of dudes from my neighborhood, you know what I'm saying? My big doll, boo-bo here and now. So one of the little dudes, and they're like, bro, what are you in? for, I'm in that straight line.

I'm like, brus, you know, some bowls, you know what I said? They caught me with two pounds. They ran and I had two pounds on the table. And, you know, they locked me up, you know, I ain't there. Why did you just punch the guy? I don't, I don't know. I'm just, I'm just in now just, you know, I'm just, I need to feel like my charge, match your charge, you know.

Like, if y'all did something, I did something too. That's how my mind working at the time. You know, I'm 19. I'm like, yeah, I had two bowls on the table. I had two pounds. They ran and, you know, snatched the pounds. I had $16,000 in cash, something. They took the cash.

You know, I'm in now just running. Like, for real? I'm like, yeah, man, they, you know, took my cars and stuff, man. I'm talking like, man, crazy. My home boy, Bubo can, they were like, man, that boy, cap. He ain't never touched no, nothing in his life. His mama whooping right now. He's a church boy.

You know what I'm saying? So it was, I laughed. Everybody laughed. Like, because they was, you know, people listen to the story. You know what I'm saying? But my partner, Bubo came like, man, that boy, lying. Man, that boy don't here. He don't do no whittling anything like that.

It might be some fighting or something. You know, that's what he's going to do. But he ain't doing no, you know, no drugs and no, like, you know what I'm saying? So we end up, we end up laughing. I learned how to play Domino's in jail, you know. I met these two Mexican dudes. I ain't know how to play Dominoes. Cool, you know, cool as ever.

I never forget this Mexican dude. I asked me, I was like, bro, what you do? You know, he was like, man, like, I. I have a couple of beers. You know, I fall asleep. I wake up. They tell me, you know, I ran over and killed two people. And I'm like, bro, now how you just put that like that's mistaken?

No, what you did was you got drunk and you hit somebody, and it was a hit and run, and then they caught you, now you in jail. You know, he's trying to play on my sympathy. You know, I wake up, man, go to sleep. I wake up and wake up, they tell me I can give two people. Like, bro, you know, but this was my part. because they were teaching me how to play dominoes. You know what I'm saying?

I went to the hearing with the judge. You know, she on the little, on a little Zoom car. So she, we going now. I'm thinking like, okay, this is how you get at. You know, I'm going to get out and talk to the judge, you know. So she was like, Jermain Williams and, yes, ma'am. Okay, we have you for such and such and such. assault and battery with a deadly weapon so at that time I'm like with a deadly weapon like

I ain't even hit him with that you know what I'm saying but that's what they they had me down and like I the report said I hit him up over the head with a blunt object you feel I'm saying stuff like that you know so I'm like dang now I'm getting kind of scared because I'm like man it's serious assault and battle with a deadly woman you know whatever I post he was saying I hit him over the head with or whatever so the judge was like okay you uh you have a hearing on the 30th and I'm like, cool. So I just got to call somebody. I said, the 30th.

Like, hey, what, what's the day? Like, it's the second. I'm like, hold on, I'm like, man, hold on, hey, y'all put up back on the TV. I'm like, now she don't know, you know, today the second. What she mean? I got, like, bro, you got to wait. So I'm like, I got a hearing on the 30 and it's the second in jail for a month, bro. Did you have a bond?

Nothing. I had nothing, bro. She didn't give me nothing. She just told me I had a hearing on the 30th. You feel what I'm saying? That's all I remember. So I was cool. I told her, okay.

I didn't think about what the date was. Me, me hearing her say, you got a hearing to me and me being so ignorant. I'm thinking, like, that's her telling me, like, I'm going to get out. Yeah, you'll have to come back. Like, I'm going to get out. You got to come back to court. Something like that, you know. So when she left after I didn't agree to everything and, you know, that's when I figured it out.

Like, I'm like, hold on. Did she say the 30th, y'all? They're like, yeah. I'm like, yeah, well, you guys, you know, stay in here to the, you know what I'm saying? Boom. Go back and, uh, uh. Four weeks later. Man.

I mean, a lot of dollars. And this is the thing. This the thing. My, my brother. he worked in that at the time. He worked at the jail. You feel what I'm saying? And like this who raised me,

his name Greg Perry, he's still across street from me. You know, this who raised me, he taught me so much stuff, bro. You know what I'm saying? To this day, he's still, like, dude, I got the utmost respect for. But he was working in that at the time.

So because, like, they know, like, man ain't no bad dude. You know, he just, got in a bad situation they kind of is not letting me be in jail like everybody else right they coming and out like hey

Jermaine you okay anybody messing with you you good you sure so I'm like man they need to stop doing that bro but I know that's my you know that's my brother holding me down you know what I'm saying

he's like um he's like man I'm like man they need to stop doing that bro they're making it look like I don't know how to be in you know I don't know how to be in jail I'm like bro I'm locked up chill You know what I'm doing my little time.

You know what I'm saying? Boom, bro. Okay, now, I'm in that chilling. My partner next to me, he passed away. He passed away now. We call him Funston. You know what I'm saying? But he was on the phone with a girl.

He came back sad and woo-woo. I'm like, bro, what's going on? He's like, man, my, you know what I'm saying? The girl, and doll me at. You know, she told me she got another dude and don't call him. Boom, boom. Now, I'm really triven. Like, I'm like, damn, I want this.

My old laid down on some stuff like that. All this stuff going through my head, this is an unfamiliar situation. This was really made me ready to go home. My partner. Other than this, you were okay. Yeah, yeah. You know, this is what really made me ready to go home. My partner was in there singing loud, you know.

So one of the guards came in there and told him to shut up. You know, he's like, hey, shut up. Get that noise down. he thought it was one of us so he was like hey you don't like it by and that kept singing

the officer in the open cell two options bro real deal he went and now I'm somebody this all I heard you know what I'm saying

he ain't come out he ain't come out for about two days he ain't out with a cup over his head and I'm like dang bro that's how I go in here they think and just do that

they're like yeah bro you know what I'm saying that's how they such and such and such just got beat up and not cleaning up his cell. They came in on him. I'm ready to go.

Like, but I'm ready to go. Y'all do your knuckles ashy. Y'all don't even put lotion on your hands. Beards, naps, y'all in your fake, bro. This is not for me, bro. I don't want no parts of these. You feel what I'm saying? That experience, though, taught me, bro.

Like, being in jail that many days, meeting all of them people, having all of them conversation. And what's crazy, mostly, everybody that I did that most everybody that I met in them few days they passed bro they gone

like they they they die you know what I'm saying so like that was just crazy because you know I'm a spiritual person my biggest thing when I was in there I was telling people like bro how are you ready to go talk to this lawyer and his judge

about getting out but when they call for church you don't go that's the ultimate judge you don't want to go talk to God but you want to go talk to lawyer. You know what I'm like, bro, y'all need to start, you know, so that's just always been my, you know what I'm saying? So that's what I was in there on. Like, really, you know what I'm saying? So, but yeah, bro, like, like, after that, a couple of more incidents, all fighting. That's what all my charges behind. All of my charges that I

never caught been behind fighting, hitting people, and, you know what I'm saying? So the 20, so you go back on the 28th, what happens? I get put on probation. Oh, okay. How much probation you get? A year. Okay. She put me on, she put me on probation for a year, bro.

Man, and I don't just want to keep telling these stories because, you know, that was in my past, with a, in a past relationship, you feel me? I ain't nothing, you know, I ain't reminiscing or nothing that was in my past, you feel me. But I was on probation. They put me on probation. I get out. Go right back to this, to this girl.

You feel what I'm saying? Go right back to this girl. The day before I'm supposed to get our probation, right? I got to go to court the next day. I played like a league game with her and told her I was going out of town to my uncle house. And I popped up. Seenily dude over there.

You feel what I'm saying? Cot of a little dude over there. I ain't no hater. Man, I'm talking about. Real dear, bro. On Jesus, DeWan Christ. I looked at this little dude. I instantly knew she liked him.

Smooth, bro. He was smooth. Then he had a candy red truck. He had a candy red truck. It was candy red and silver parked outside. Truck was clean. I'm like, I don't stop and looked at it for a little while. Before I went in the house.

I'm like, man, what did the truck for? You know what I said? Truck clean, bro. I get in the house. I see him got long braids his hailed look

he's black but his halle look kind of blind hazed eyes he's smooth and out clean he got on a jacket and you know what I'm

looking at myself I'm busted you know what I got on like a little thermal with some holes in it my shoes dusting you know he

he reaches his hand eye shake my hand you know what I'm like boy don't want to shake your hand you over here extra cute

hell you. Handsome, nigga, I don't want to shake your hand. You ain't him my old lady, this handsome? I know I don't want to shake your hand. Real dead, bro. I swear to God. Me and her sister ended up having like a little situation because her sister was like, get out of here. You always coming over our house, start trope. He can be over here if he want to. He, they cousin, they stay across the street. Her boyfriend, that was her boyfriend's friend. So it was like two cousins and two friends. Feel what I'm saying?

So they didn't hook it up. So I'm mad at everybody. Because all y'all didn't have a part of this. Mad at all of them. You know what I'm saying? Oh. Me and her sister ended up having a little situation. She swung on me and I grabbed her.

Like, hey, don't hit me. But when I grabbed them, that was it. Last day. Like, oh, yeah, you're going to go to jail. Fent to go to jail. Call to police, bro. Police came, pick me. me up. I'm back in the stressing. I know I got to go to court the next day and get our

probation for this same thing. They just pick me up for. That's probably the most hurt I ever been in my life, bro. I'm like, dang, people, you know, they're in the, we're in the little dang dudes. And I'm like, oh, yeah, bro, they're going to make you back that year. I'm like, a year, you know, swell, bro. I'm in the hurt just thinking about like, man. A year, a year. You You mean on probation for another year? No, they're going to, now I'm going to have to serve this time for this, uh, yeah, bro. So I'm in now, man, I'm just, bro, I'm hurt. I'm praying.

I'm praying. I'm hurt. I don't know. Well, I'm asking for my brother, you know, I'm asking. I'm like, man, too to the hill. My partner, the grade that's there across the street. I thought you were, you were good. You don't need your help from your brother.

Hey, man, I'm going to tell you this, bro. I ain't, I ain't in the aisle that gas. These people be putting it up. I did Tien, standing on my head. Man, I ain't fin to do none of that. Bro, I don't want to go to jail. I don't want to go in there. And I ain't got no problem with telling people that.

You feel what I'm saying? I don't never try to do that, bro. Like, you feel me? No matter who I'm around, I never put that persona on. You feel what I'm saying? I swear to God. Man, I'm asking for my partner. They're like, no, he ain't here.

He ain't at work tonight. I'm like, oh, me. I'm going to go to jail. out of nowhere that boy popped up he popped up I love him because he had a serious talk with me you feel me like he ain't just doing that for me he talked to me like hey bro listen bro man you you you need to do better but you can't keep doing man you need to change something but you're supposed to be doing this he laid it out for me you know what I'm saying he was like look this what I'm gonna do I'm gonna give you a whatever whatever whatever you know and

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D.I. Porter to learn more. I work so I don't want to talk too much. But whatever happened, I ended up going home on a bun that night. It was a different kind of bun. It was way cheaper. You know what I'm saying? Like I just paid a few dollars on my pocket. I walked home. Feel what I'm saying?

I'm lying. I'm lying. I walked out the dough. I'm walking. And the police officer came and picked me up. The same dude that brought me there, he told me he'll take me back to my car feel what I'm saying

I'm thinking like man should I you know I'm kind of contemplating this was so cold bro and I never forget this bro I never forget this bro this we pull back up at the house because my car is parked outside you know my girl's

we pulled back up at the house she had that clean jacket that I was telling you about that fresh jacket he had on she had it on they were standing outside and he outside like giving her a pep talk like we pulling up in the police car and i see him at the end he was tall you know girl love him tall dude bro he tall with the eyes and the hell he out there talking to her he out there telling him you know what like i see him i see his gestures he just like so i'm knowing like he you know he piecing up bro look

Police tell me, like, hey, Jermaine, look, man, get in your car and leave, okay? Just get in your car and leave. I'm thinking this is a white cop. That's your white cop voice. Definitely the white cop voice, you feel what I'm saying? Man, I forgot that. I think his last night, Snelling. You feel what I'm saying?

He's cool, though. I don't cut his up. You know, like when I, you know, when I be going to jail or whatever, they know I'm a barber, so they pull the clippers out, hey, man, clutching hill. I'm cutting the whole 50 people hell. But, yeah. But he was like, yeah, man, Germaine. Just get in your car, man.

Just get in your car. Don't focus on it. Just leave, drive away. You know? So I can't, I get out the car. I'm looking like, I can't say anything because the police watch it. But I want her to see my face. So I'm looking at her like,

Germain, get in the car. Bro, when I tell you, that was the last. strongest drive ever driving away from them. You feel what I'm saying? Bro, that, no cap. I got home, I'm pacing back and forth in the driveway. Back and forth in the driveway. I never forget this lady, her name, Yolanda, bro.

Like, she's like a popular, everybody, everybody knows. But she said, she's seen me walking. Like back and forth, she was like, baby, you look like you just so hurt. I know God sent to, though, because that's just how messed up I was. I was thinking about, like, what I need to do, like, how I need to handle these, you know. And it's all, like, crying and crazy stuff that I'm thinking about. You know what I'm saying? You know, all straight stupidity, me thinking about, like, what I need to do, you know.

And she was like, baby, I'm going to tell you this. You look hurt. She was like, I got hurt. and it led me to making some bad decisions. Me trying to fix my pain. She said, don't do nothing with your pain, but go to God. I left, went in the house, got on on my knees. When I got on on my knees, I asked God that day,

if I can't have this girl, I want my career. I want my dreams in the stuff that I'm desiring about as it pertains to my career. Feel I'm saying? I really earnestly prayed that prayer, bro. No cap. He gave it to me, bro. He gave it to me, no cap.

Not long after that, I got my first chance to be in the movie. You feel what I'm saying? Not long after that situation happened. I prayed that prayer. No cap. Everybody in the neighborhood like, bro, this hell in town.

You know, like Denzel Washington Hill. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, dang. Everybody talking about, oh, Denzel shooting the movie. They was at Grambling. Grambling State is probably about like an hour away from me. You know what I'm saying? So that's the talk.

That's the big deal. I was working at U.S. Port at the time. It's like a call center in Shreveport. I was going every day once I found out they was doing auditions in the AT&T building. I was going every day mean woman up there bro mean lady at the desk

and it was like she was just tired of seeing just me but I'm trying to be I'd have heard all these stories about people being consistent and all that so I'm like I'm gonna go every day you know I'm working on my story

so I can be doing stuff like this saying I went in there every day I didn't take no for an answer you know what I'm saying so every day she was getting an attitude sir there are no openings we're not doing anything right now we have your number we'll let you know you know people coming behind me nice as ever to do she's talking sweet to everybody else promise bro no game on jesus

but no i cry she being mean super mean one day i went this what happened at work lady behind me was crying she was crying i heard her crying so my uh my home boy um courtney ross And shout out to him, he's doing major, major stuff too. My homeboy, according to Ross, who gave me the job, he went back there. He was like, what's going on? You know, he was our team leader. And she was like, man, I cashed my check on my break and lost $500. She was like, I lost all my money.

That's my bill, money. That's my car note. And, you know, I'm just like, dang. Lost her money? Oh, she just lost it? She lost it. She ain't know where it was. I just heard her behind me crying.

You know what I'm saying? So at the time, I'm cutting hair and working at the, you know what I'm saying? So I got hair coming in my pocket. You know what I'm saying? This is what I did. Not for no blessing or not for no nothing. I just felt sorry for her because she was an older lady. I turned around.

I had $300 in my pocket. I said, look, I heard you said, you know, but you lost your check. I just want to, you know, give you this. I said, don't tell nobody, don't go announce to their work, don't make no big deal, just take it this for you. Because I heard you lost your money. You know, I just wanted to help you. She started crying even louder.

You know what I'm saying? She started crying even louder. You know, my homeboy Courtney came back there, and, you know, she told him like, yeah, he just gave me. Boom, boom, boom. On my break, I said, I'm going to go to the AT&T building. You know, they're doing auditions for the great debaters. When I went this day, she went in.

at the desk. He was a dude up though. As soon as I walked in, bro, he was like, hey, you're here to audition? And I'm like, yeah, he was like, hey, walk right through this door. Sweat of God, bro. Went smooth. Walk back, though, they had two lines on the paper that you got to say. I said the lines. They just started fitting me for the clothes. Right then. They just started fitting me. So I met this, I met this casting director named Chris Gray. And he did, like, the principal casting for like hustling flow and blade and you know like he a big he he he a he a big dude in hollywood you know what i'm saying but i met him and uh so they gave me a date to be in the movie you know they gave me a date that was like hey we're gonna we're gonna be

filming this day it was at camp mending like an old uh a old um what you call like military base yeah we was there so me having understanding about how stuff worked I knew it wasn't just going that smooth like boom I went to auditioning them you know and I'm gonna be yeah I'm trading lines with Denzel right so I go in a barbershop uh shot shot shot shot out to my dog puncho he really he really like my dad a bro calling pops but uh shout out to puncho he gave me an opportunity to be in the barbershop that's that's why I went broke You know, I was telling the broke stores earlier He changed it

He just came to my house one day He was like, hey man, I heard you could help He let me in the shop I made $400 the first day Which was like a billion of me at the time Right Couldn't believe it, you know what I'm saying But I'm in the

I go to the shop I'm like hey puncho bro I'm gonna be in a movie with Denzel I never forget He had an old dude in his chair And this dude was my partner I used to love when he come in there We used to rent it

He started laughing so loud everybody else joined in they all they didn't tell what was wrong with you punch on that boy I've been smoking something like real deal so we get to the

the set that day bro it's steaming hot I don't think I don't think people understand about Louisiana heat bro Louisiana heat gets in your nose

in your organs in your heart and your soul and stop stuff from functioning that's how hot it be bro it's a difference between it just being hot and you got heat that feels like an object you know like somebody got a towel

or something over your nose in your mouth you can't breathe you walk outside and the heat come up from the concrete take your breath away bro you feel like you breathe an apple sauce bro man bro come on man on Jesus the one Christ boy that is the truth apple sauce I swear man louis I know bro

But it's so hot out there. It was so hot, people started leaving. You know, I'm knowing these people that want to live their dreams. People leaving. I'm seeing kids, mom and them pulling up, they calling their mom. Like, Mom, come get me. I can't. You know, so it ain't even really that many of us out there.

We're extras. So we're in the extras holding tent. And the movie is the great debaters. Yeah. We're in the extras holding tent. They're getting the out of gather. You know, they're setting it up. But they had to set up the tent for the principal casking.

You know what I'm saying? And if you ever be on the movie set, bro, that's how I go. You're extra. You're little. You're a little bit of fish. You ain't no shark. You feel what I'm saying? They're over there with the people that, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. I ain't know that. I found that out too. Like, I'm like, oh, okay. Because they get crafty. And, you know, they had like tables with snacks and stuff on it. And it's a food truck out there that I thought was for everybody. But it was just for the principal actors.

You feel me? So I see them ordering food. I walk up there like, yeah, bro, let me get a sausage, egg and cheese, toaster. And some of that orangeo, they got the real oranges. Like, I'm like, yeah, that's the... Instantly, dude named Calice. He wanted a... I think he wanted to producers or something.

He's like, Jermaine, hey, this is not for you. You got to go back over there with the extras. This is not for you. And I'm like, dang, brusso I can't get the, you know, I can't get my sausages and egg and cheese toast. He was like, no. I'm somebody just like that. He wasn't trying to sugarcoat it in there. He was like, hey, no, get back over there.

This is not for you. Because that was all, I'm wondering, like, I'm ordering. And they, you know, they're looking around. Like, you know what I'm saying? Oh, I might go back over there. The whole listen I'm feeling played I'm over there like man

These acting stuff I ain't really What it's all cracked out to be I just try to order Sandwich eat people tripping It's hot out here You know what I'm saying At six

We got out there at six in the morning At six o'clock that evening That's when they finally Called us to do something In front of the camera You know what I'm saying There's no cap I'm gonna tell you how I moved

This is how I moved I'm just the one in Christ they called us to this church we walk over that to the church I have been seeing them filming in the church all day you know we walk over that to this church Denzel is in the church you know what I'm saying

this this ironic Denzel in the church I walk up to the front of the line I'm first God speak to me and tell me go to the back and you know like most people don't be liking to say

like God spoke to me. They, you know, they'll say intuition or that's just my terminology, you know. So spoke to me and said, go to the back of the line. Last should be first. You know what I'm saying? I got out of the line because the door that we were seeing Denzel and them through, I was standing right by it being at the front of the line. So it, like, looked kind of crazy when I walked to the back.

It's like, oh, you're going to be like the last person to go in. I walked to the back of the line dude pop out the door that I didn't even see that was right there that I was standing by I was like hey you come here grab like three of us

from the back of the line promise if you watch great debaters I'm sitting and when they first come on I'm sitting in the front far as Whitaker preaching he that

that line when he said you got to do what you have to do in order to do what you want to do I'm in the front of the line swear to God I mean, I felt so honored like getting little pieces of spit from far as wooded on my forehead.

You know what I said? Boy, I felt so under. I wasn't even tripping. I wouldn't wiping it off of nathan. Oh, Jesus, I ain't crying. Man, look, I'm sitting in the front. That's how I got in the front because I'm the first person they grabbed.

When they grabbed me, they bought us in the Denzel walk straight up to me. No gas. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay. I like how you guys. You got that great suit on. Okay, you're going to be one of my freshmen.

I'm a use you. to be one of my freshmen at Wiley College. You got that nice modern lineup. You got a nice strong jaw structure. He got his hand on my back. You know, he touched my back, bro. I swear to God, I'm tripping. I'm tripping like, that was enough for me right though.

That was enough for my acting career. I could have went home, went to the hood, Joe Stopped there forever. I could have been telling stories out there for 30 years. Boy, Denzel touched my back on Jesus, Jerome Christ. Man, look, I swear to God. He touched me, bro. I mean, I just really having a moment. You know what I'm saying?

Serial, bro. I'm second of that. Like, man, Danzile to touch my back. I'm on my way. I'm on my way, bro. Like this high story. It's almost like he was pushing you forward. Right.

You know, he gave me to, when Mufusufus took Simba in the top of the, man, come on, man. This is it? I'm on my way. He touched my back. Remember, Denzel touched my back. Don't forget that part of the story. Boom. We do it.

seen as far as Whitaker he's talking the devil came for me while i'm sitting on that front row bro this ain't never happened to me in my life i'm sitting on the front row we taping every teeth in my mouth started stinging like a toothache on all my teeth bro it hurt it so bad tears instantly started coming out my eyes and they think about that they might have thought I was doing some hell of an acting. My teeth was hurting so bad, tears was coming out my eyes, bro. Swear. Lady walked over, one of the PAs was like, hey, what's going on?

You're okay? I'm like, yeah. I was like, nah, man, I got a toothache. You know what I'm saying? Somebody grabbed her, and she went to go do something, and they said action. So I'm sitting right there again. It was hurting so bad, I'm like, man, I got to go. I got to leave.

I got to go. It was hurting that bad. When I got up to leave, that PA walked back in with the little white cup with some Tylenol in it. She was like, hey, here. I sat back down, took the Tylenol, finished the scene. I swear to God. So this is how I'm always spiritually led. So it's over.

I did my big win. You know, I got in the movie. You know, so we leaving. And we sign in our pink slip to leave to. So Chris, the casting director, you know, I did my homework on him and seen like, oh, this dude acting in Shazan with Shaq. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's a big, he like a big dude. I didn't do my homework on him.

So when I get up to turn my paper in, I was like, man, um, y'all ever come in the Mansfield? Just randomly ask them. The Bible says you have not because you act not. You feel what I'm saying? How are you going to make a shot? that you never shoot. You gotta take the shot. You miss all the shots

that you don't take. That's how life worked. That's automatically a miss because you didn't never take the shot. When I asked him when they was coming to Mansfield, he was like, hey, dude, we're gonna be in,

and he's black. He just, you know what I'm saying? He's like, hey, dude, we're gonna be in Mansfield tomorrow. Be there, I say seven o'clock. I'm like, bet. You know, promise to God, bro. I'm on one.

All this stuff is going my way. I'm on my way. I'm the, you know, I'm the next one, bro. Denzel and gave me to move fast, his own. We get, I go out the, we get the Mansfield. This is just how God be working with me, bro. All my teachers that know I was bad in school. And, bro, I was so bad, bro.

I was so horrible in school. Like, just wanted attention, bro. me and my bro, Quinn Nichols, you know, free, a Q kid. We used to come to school late

because people was gone out the office and we'll take water, put it in cups from the water phone, and pour it in the back of the computers. Every day. Big truck out there,

you know, we'll come see the truck, you know, the people out there are to fix the computers. We're laughing. You know what I'm saying? These bad kids.

Bro, horrible. All the bad stuff I used to do, bro. You know what I'm saying? I used to record myself, you know, spit in my hand, walked down the road, shaking everybody's down the road, shaking everybody's hand at the day locker. You know what I'm saying? Just spitting my hand and stuff, bro.

I was bad, bro. So all my teachers and stuff out there, like the city out there, because we're filming the man's feeling they, why, with all these people watching, the word getting around like I hear people whispering like oh that's that's Jermaine Jemaine I dealt with them how they mind you they never know that I'm in the movie nobody never know about mending and none of that I never had a chance to tell them we didn't have

this was in 2008 we didn't have like you know like Facebook and all that stuff wasn't even you know it was like MySpace you feel what I'm saying and you got to take a picture on the camera and hook it up and do I you know so I ain't ever had a chance to tell nobody So people out there saying, like, that's Jermaine. I hear Ms. Youngblood, she was the secretary of the school. She was like, that's Jermaine Williams. You know what I'm saying? Oh, bro, I'm feeling like one.

On Jesus, Duane Christ, I'm feeling like him. Why this boy, Denzel, walk out, you know, they clap and a little standing ovation, kind of. He walked dead up to me, and this all might sound like his cap. This, man, this is on Jesus, Benoit Christ, on Moses. He walked up to me and started fixing my, uh, tie. You know, it was a period piece from the 1920. So we had a... I've seen the movie, yeah, yeah, he fixed him out.

Yeah, you got to, you know, this is how you tie, tie. You're a man, you got to learn how to tie your tie. All men should know how to tie tie, you know. So I'm just like this. He fixing me in front of everybody. Bro, I don't even know how to feel about this right now. Like, you know what I'm saying? Bro, man, I'm talking about mine.

I'm smiling all the way for my kneecaps. on Jesus Christ Coming from where I came from Going through this childhood That I just explained To be having this moment You know for all of this to be aligning Ah bro

He fixing my shirt Now this day right here This is the highlight This is why I'm telling the whole story This day Remember I told you when I came in Touched my back Right

They had a scene When Denzel get out of jail That's what we were shooting his day. When Denzel getting out of jail, he walking down the street with Farras Whitaker and, you know, Farras Whitaker and his lawyer and stuff, go watch the movie. I have an amazing cameo in his movie. I walked dead in front of the camera on purpose, but I got a great cameo. You feel what I'm saying?

This is where you could really see me in the movie. This picture was plastered everywhere from that scene, was on their way. website it made it to the Oprah Winfrey show quick sidebar when we was in Mending that day I forgot to say Oprah pulled up because you know she was one of the

producers me being greedy I'm in the tent in the lunch tent eating getting second, thirds force and fields they had stuff I ain't even know what it was

you know what I'm saying different kind of chicken with different little sauce I'm in there trying everything. You know what I'm saying? I'm in there slaughtering. I walk out the tent. Dude tell me,

hey, bro, you missed it. Oprah just pulled up in a limousine, bro. She was shaking out of hand and everything. I'm crushed. I'm like, man, I missed Oprah being greedy. You know what I'm saying? In there trying to feel my appetite. I love Oprah, bro.

I, man, I grew up watching. Oprah is where I learned the um the um the um law of attraction you know i it's so ironic i used what i seen Oprah Winfrey used what she said she used to attract the color purple that story that she told you know i used that for the great debaters same thing and it happened that's why i felt extra connected to her story you feel i'm saying i missed her i didn't get to see her monkey on my back forever bro one of my biggest regret like resentment out this world you know what i'm saying okay boom this day we film it dazelle getting out of jail they come out there and tell us

hey denzel's getting out of jail we need you guys to be ecstatic all right we need you to clap it up We need to see happiness on your faces. Denzel's getting out. We need to really feel like, you know, someone you love has gotten out of jail. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, okay, you know, I'm going to take this extra series. This is my moment. You know what I'm saying?

This is my time. They did a little practice, and I'm standing by this old truck, Denzel walked through. I'm like, oh, okay, you're going to walk right through why I'm met. You know what I'm saying? Then I'm starting to think about how I'm going to make this movie successful. you know what I'm saying it's all on you right then I'm starting to get ideas like

you know like this it man I got to come over some I got to take this movie to another level I got to do some in this moment that's going to make them see me and if you're extra in a movie someone else don't do this bro don't do this don't try to say to the production don't do nothing extra

do what they're telling you to do bro don't you know so he they call action he walked by me, I was being happy that he was out of jail. I patted him on his back. No cap. And this ain't, I love Denzel Washington.

This is in no type of way being derogatory towards him at all. I patted him on his back and stopped the world. Like the whole scene stopped. Like, soon as I pat him on his back, you know how like on the movies when you do something and then you hit an, um, and everybody just, you know. just like, stop. So I'm looking like, like, dang, what, you know, what I do? You know what I'm saying?

They call action again. We do the scene again, right? We do the scene again. I don't touch them because I'm knowing like, okay, I messed up. Like, you know, shouldn't have did that. After this scene, after the next scene, the same dude that told me I can't eat from the truck

Khali he walked up and he was like Jermaine listen to me don't ever and I mean ever touch Denzel never touch him

and I'm like huh but they told us to be happy he was like no listen as a matter of fact don't make eye contact with Denzel don't ever touch him. So, like, you know, and like, Desair's such a good actor.

It caught him off guard, too. When I touched his back, he instantly, like, turned and turned it into, like, a little, like, you know, nodded at me and kept the flow going. You feel what I'm saying? But I knew I had messed up. Boom.

I see them huddle up. I see the, you know, the producers and stuff. You know, they huddling up. I'm over there like, dang, bro. I know I'm in trouble. Like, they're doing a little huddle. You know, they're over there.

Without looking at me, they're talking. Next thing, you know, Khalis come back over there and was like, Jermaine, guess what? We have a special position just for you. You know? You're like, you see that truck

way back there? I want you to go standby. So, this is how naive I was. I'm like, oh, I did something right. He said they got a special. So I'm back there chilling waiting on all the cameras and stuff to come move down here.

This is my moment. You feel what I'm saying? Like, that's really what? I'm thinking, like, I'm like, dang, they rap. Like, you know, like, hey, guys, we're there, so I'm down, I'm like, they forgot. Like, they forgot about my scene, you know what I'm saying? It hit me like, oh, they took me out the scene. You know what I'm saying?

Like, they took me out of the scene. They put me in a place where I can cause no home. You know what I'm saying? So, bro, I'm really, like, sad, like, feeling like, man, bro, I went too hard. I went too hard. I touched the dude on his back. But he touched me. He touched me on my back.

It wasn't no problem when I first met him. He's Denzel Washington. Look, I understand that now. You feel what I'm saying? And this the thing. All the touches on my back, whatever, bro. He's Denzel. Man, do you?

I ain't even, I don't even really need this back. You need it. Denzel, you got it. But, you know, like, I was just really, and I, and, like, true be told. he was really like mentor all of us like Denzel wasn't treating us like extras and he was the biggest start on the you know on the movie but he was letting us eat what they was eating he was giving us the drinks that they was drinking bro like this dude like he he was real deal having one-on-one teaching sessions with extras people he don't know from Adam he's school

Like, hey, I don't want to ever hear you use that language again. You hear what I'm telling you? If you want to be successful in this business, he doing that to people he don't know. That's why I love him to this day, bro. Beautiful dude, bro. I learned so much. That has such a profound effect on my life. I'm still shooting movies to this day.

I got bit with the bug, bro. Like, I've been doing movies every since. And it's because of him. like he has such a profound effect on all of us bro like i still be talking to the dudes that we was extras in the movie you know we still hit each other up on you know social media and you know what i'm saying man look i might even i might even do us a little documentary or something just to talk about our experiences you know what i'm saying but man we had so much fun doing it bro so like for me to do that in my hometown in front of you know the people i love

was, you know, was crazy. After I prayed that prayer, when I was going through them situations and I'm in and out of jail, dealing with this situation, and I prayed to God, like, God, I want my dream. I'm going to let this go. If you're trying to tell me I need to let this go, you know, I'm going to let this go. And it worked out. You feel what I'm saying?

But, you know, shout out to Denzel, bro, because the stuff that he taught us and the experience that we got just. just being in his presence, bro, it turned all us into some type of movie, something. Everybody's still doing something pertaining to film to this day. You know what I'm saying? Because it wasn't just like, man, bro, we got so tight out there on a set of great debaters. We was like family, you know what I'm saying? And even when I wasn't working in front of the camera, Chris gave me a job as a casting assistant.

You know what I'm saying? So I used to be going like the Walmart, like scouting people. You know what I'm saying? Like, hey, man, you want to be in a movie? Yeah, you know, signing people up. That was my job. You know what I'm saying? But due to the fact that the story was about the debate team at Wiley College that broke

all these barriers, you feel what I'm saying, at a time when it was like so much white supremacy and racism going on, you know. So we kind of like bonded over them stories because, you know, like it's like lynching scene and like in the lynching scene and great debaters. Like the older women at work don't sit, bro, like they was crying. Like, there was real deal. It was like different people and people having to get consoled and stuff like that. And it was just like we was all buttoned.

And shout out to Nate Parker. He played low in the great debaters. He was in movies like pride. And he's doing a lot of independent films. He did the Nat Turner story. But, man, he was another dude. that taught me a lot. And we, you know, I thought all movie sets was like that.

You know, when I had that experience, I thought all movie sets was like that. But, like, after doing that movie, you know, I kind of figured out that, like, every movie don't have that budget. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So, like, the kind of stuff that we was eating and that chicken I was telling you about, you know, that was probably like the last time I got a chance to, you know what I'm saying, to do something like that.

For me saying, like, Denzel Washington had this profound effect on me, he affected my life in a certain type of way. Me being around all of them cameras and me seeing stuff and, you know, like, just being in the atmosphere, Chris, the casting director, Chris Gray, he was like, man, if you ever in Hollywood, you know, pull up, man, you know, this, we do this every day in Hollywood, you know what I'm saying? He was like, you're one of the people that got talent and, you know, I feel like Blasee Blaseet.

What did you get, sorry, what did you get paid to be an extra? Isn't it like, it's still a few hundred buys, still like three, four or five hundred bucks, right? I made on The Great Debaters probably a sum, a total of like $1,200. You know what I'm saying? How many days is that? I was, I did a lot of days, you know? Yeah, I did a lot of days. I was making $58 a day.

That's it? Yeah, I was making $5. Listen. Boy, Dazel, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. No, no, listen, it was $58 a day. It was $58 for eight hours. After eight hours, it's overtime. So that go up.

You know what I'm saying? $58 a day and it goes up to what? So you get an extra six bucks? No, I think it's like, I think it's like, like if you divide like eight in the 58 or something, whatever that was, they start paying like, you know, like it was like double time or like, Anytime you're on set. It's minimum wage. Right. Any time you don't think because you see people on TV that they got money.

You feel what I'm saying? Like, like, like, because I used to think like that. Like, every time you see somebody on TV, they're rich. And people start thinking like that about me. You feel what I'm saying? Because it's a dude from my city named Fakir Brown. He's a cornerback. He played for the Saints.

And he had, you know, a great NFL career. But because of that Denzel stuff, people start throwing my name up and like, you know, like, he is a real millionaire. Like, he got millions of dollars. You know, people start like, man, we need to just get people together in the city so they could start buying up some of these old properties like Jermaine and Fickeel. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Don't, don't, I don't belong in no conversation with no NFL dude.

You feel what I'm saying? I'm still eating the hot and spices and, you know, like trying to see. If this one of the days, I'm going to get cheese on it. You know what I'm saying? I know this is kind of like someone saying, like some of the amazing podcast that are out there, like Joe Rogan and Matt Cox. And I was like, no. No, serious, bro.

Bro, listen, you're one of them ones, bro. It's you and Joe Rogan and the other dude, but you, bro. I don't know who the other dude is. Nah, I'm saying it's like four or five of y'all. You know, we might not know y'all name. Listen, I'm not in the top 100 of those guys. No, dude, yes, you is, bro. I ain't going to even let you do that to yourself,

man, on Jesus Jerome Christ. You were one of them people, bro. Like, like, man, hey, man, listen. Sending down with you from where I come from, we made it. When people see me, bro, we made it. When people see me talking to you, the message that is going to send to their brain, like, oh, yeah, he's doing it. Like, clutch he out of here, bro. He's up excellent.

He's doing something, you know, he was sitting down. He was talking to the dude that being on the podcast. You know, bro, that's big, bro. Yeah, man. You want a Joe Rogan them, bro. You want of them. Let's go on. What's going on?

Let's keep going. This is too much. I ain't going to let you play with yourself like that, man. I got to keep it real with you, bro. I'm going to tell you what the, from our standpoint, what the people see, you know. And I know you know, you're chilling. You're a humble dude. You know what I'm saying?

You want to be cool and just humble and lay back. I'm going to let you know, bro. You're one of the ones, bro. I ain't going to do that. But look, but what I was saying about, I was, the experience. Chris told me, like, man, listen, if you ever in L.A., I don't know why he said that. Like, you know, like, I ain't serious about my acting career and this man to touch my back. You know what I'm saying?

Bro, I'm serious about, as soon as he said that after the movie was over, you know what saying. Packed up the car. Got on the Greyhound. I called him when I got. to L.A. I was like, hey, man, I'm in Los Angeles. He was like, wait, what? Who is this? Chris Gray. No, I'm saying. Did he say to you? Who is this? How'd you get this number? Right. He was like, dude, what? He was like, dude, what? I was like, yeah, man, I'm in L.A.

I got to respect them, though, bro. I got to respect them because I know they caught him off guard. You feel what I'm saying? I know they caught him off guard. He gathered himself because I could tell by his response like he was surprised like dang he probably was just doing some Hollywood talk amen if you ever in LA boy I'm fin to pull up on you on Jesus your wrong Christ don't even play with me like that because I'm coming today

for real so I called him he was like man what you're at boom he's such the car to come pick me up rich for real like this this the driver can't got me man this rich for real and I'm down there on Skid Row like like I don't

I don't know if it's like these kids, bro, but I'm down there with the homeless people. I ain't fit for that, bro. Like, I'm from the country. My heart, you know, sensitive. Everybody that told me a story, I gave him some of my $8. You know what I'm saying? And they're looking like they didn't hit the lottery. Like, they instantly figured out like, oh, he's green.

You know what I'm saying? He'd give him $7.8. Bro, them dudes in L.A., them homeless people in L.A., they differ. The stories they got, man, they're going to touch your heart. Don't pay them no attention. If you listen, you're coming out your pocket. Bro, dude ran up on me. Dude was like, man, I just need some money to give me some old pants, bro.

I got a bladder problem and I got this bag, and my bag busts all over my pants, bro. I don't want to walk around like this. Pits all over me. Man, I just need some pants. Man, I got him a dub. You know what I'm saying? Man, here you go, bro. Go get you some more pants.

You know what I'm saying? Hurt my feelings, bro, when I seen him doing to somebody else. You know what I'm saying? Hurt my feelings, bro. I'm really like, man, this man got me. Like, this man real deal, you know. But swear to God, bro. So them people in L.A. different, bro.

He came pick me up. He's starting to drive to pick me up. He let me have. And he's staying in West Hollywood. He neighbors with, like, Mel Gibson, And, uh, um, Hallie Berry and, bro, I seen Mel Gibson walking his dog. You know what I'm sitting on the porch. I seen Mel Gibson walking his dog on.

I'm like real little, little, this before the little shorts was popular. You know what I'm saying? He had the real little shorts on the rich people dog and everything. I'm sitting on the porch tripping. Excuse me. But I'm sitting on the porch tripping like, man, I'm calling home like, bro. Guess who I just seen, bro. Mel Gibson walking his dog.

I'm seeing whiz and, uh, at the time, like Wiz. Amber Rose, they walking through, like, it's real famous stuff going on in, you know, in West Hollywood, bro, like, you feel me? So he was working on seven pounds at the time, so I got a chance to work with Will Smith right after I work with Denzel Washington, feel what I'm saying? That's how, bro, that's how God lining it up for me, you know what I'm saying? So I was a, I got a chance to meet Woody Harrison was crazy, bro. I was in that scene, even though you can't see me, and the extra is hitting me.

miss. You know, you might get in and you might not get seen. You feel what I'm saying? But I was sitting right behind Woody Harrison. He played like a blind man in the movie. Yeah, yeah. So, I got a chance to meet him, talk to him. I got a chance to meet Will Smith. But

I, and I just want to say this too. But California, you know, like Southern hospitality is a real thing. You feel I'm saying? Like, California is a completely different place. You feel me? I went out there. We on set, right? So we waiting for, I think Will was supposed to be coming and this and that

and we was all just waiting. And dude was like, hey, bro, you got change for a dollar. And I'm like, yeah, go in my pocket. I gave him a change and he tried to give me the dollar. And I was like, nah, bro, you're good. Keep the dollar. Right then, everybody like, what are you from? And I'm like, I'm from Louisiana. Oh, okay. Yeah, he's from the sticks. Bro, people don't do that out here. We don't get nobody no dollar, man.

We don't get nobody nothing. You know what I'm saying? Like, everybody in there like, yeah, bro. No, you got to be from somewhere else. Nobody here ain't, man. They ain't getting you a quarter. You know what I'm saying? Sweater God.

And I'm like, dang, bro, really like that. But the more I stayed in California, the more I seen like their attitude was like every man for their self. They ain't playing all that. generous I'm gonna give you this and you know like where I'm from I go to everybody everybody house on my block

in my neighborhood and eat you know they cook it ain't even no question I don't even got to ask feel what I'm saying I walk straight up in their house hey man fix me some of this we can fix it yourself California man don't think

that's going like that bro you feel what I'm saying it ain't none of that you know that's southern and I learned that from being in L.A. Like bro that's from L.A. and Being in the South, it's totally different, bro. The people mindset is different, but I'm going to say this, though, they're all hustlers, though.

In California, everybody hustling. You walk out of a restaurant, somebody's selling you two picks, somebody selling you napkins, they're wiping your windows. You feel what I'm saying? Like, that hustler mentality is there. But Chris invited me, though. I got a chance to work with Will Smith on seven pounds. And I left California. The beauty about that is he used to let me shadow people.

Like Chris used to send me to set. He was like, hey, who you want to watch today? Like, man, I want to see what the cameraman doing. He'll send me to set. Let me shadow the cameraman. Let me shadow the producer, the director, the second AD. So I learned all of these positions. Now I know how to put a movie together.

You feel me? Because I know what everybody judged. is I know what everybody do. I hung with the editor. I did this, did that. So when I get home, I start producing a little web series, a little TV show called Field City. Because I'm from Mansfield. So, you know, I kind of just gave it a name.

Because I always wanted us to be, like, not consider the town. But, you know, the population, like, $25, you know what I'm saying? It's so small. We ain't got no Burger King. We ain't got no Taco Bell. You know, like, that's a, bro, that's a big deal. where I'm from, you know what I'm saying? Somebody can post on Facebook, man, this Taco Bell was good.

Go check the comments. People just, oh, I hate you. Why ain't bring me none? You know what I'm saying? I'm jealous. I wanted a, you know, bro, that's a big deal. You feel what I'm saying? Like, our mall is Walmart where I'm from.

People put on their good clothes and go pull up at Walmart. That's where it's where everybody is. You know what I'm saying? And when you're from the country, bro, you just learn how to have a different. different appreciation for stuff that people in the city take for granted. You know what I'm saying? Restaurants and stuff, you know,

miles and stuff. But that's what my show is about. You put together a series. What's the series about? Living in the country. Just that? Life in the country. As opposed to how things go in the city.

Okay. Feel what I'm saying? Sound like it's kind of like a topic, but you'll be surprised to know how intrigued, like rich people and, you know, other people is with the way we live in the country. You feel

I'm saying? I always thought it was special. I know nobody ain't doing this. You feel it? I know nobody don't go in the store and order chicken and put cheese on it and we all outside eating chicken and cheese, you know, after the club. It's 15 people out here eating chicken and cheese. Cheese

falling in there while we're outside eating. You feel what I'm saying? Stuff like that, you know, like on a random day people just barbecuing might not even have no pick you probably dug a hole or something and rigged it up you know so i just i just wanted to exploit that you know right what i'm sorry how many episodes like you have you how is it still going now i this is what this is what i did right from that i did like i think i was on like episode 14 you feel what i'm saying and i was feeling like people weren't really interested in it because it was

It was like a phenomenon when it first dropped because nobody knew how to edit and put videos together at the time when I did it. It was like, you know, you didn't really see videos on Facebook and stuff like that. Yeah, this is, this is at least the uploads on YouTube. The first episodes I'm seeing are 14 years ago. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I was, I was a baby. Yeah.

You feel I'm saying? I was a baby. YouTube was a baby. Right. You feel me? I was a baby doing this stuff. So, um... I was doing, I was doing Field City, and this dude hit me up, and my inboxing was like,

man, look, I love the show and, you know, keep going, dreams do come true. I'm thinking somebody, like, pranking me. You feel what I'm saying? Like, he was, like, you know, telling me who he was, and a guy by the name of Troy Mosley. You know what I'm saying? So, when I went to his page, I'm seeing him in, like, George Lopez, and, you know, People like, hey, Troy, great job with the Grammys. Great job with the BET Awards.

And I'm like, dang, this dude, he really produced TV shows. You feel what I'm saying? So I instantly hit him back. Like, hey, bro, I appreciate it, bro. Anytime you got an opportunity, this only time this ever happened to me like this. Usually when people do that, they reach out. It don't never be nothing behind their words, really. Yeah, yeah.

You feel me? I talk to this dude this day, and he told me, that he liked the show and that I was talented and I should keep going. Four days later, I was on a flight to Dallas, working on a show that he was producing called TD Jake's 35th anniversary. You know what I'm saying? So it was like, it was that in the, it's another show called the McDonald's 365 Awards. You know what I'm saying?

So that's what you do. Like he produced like award shows, TV shows. shows. Like, he produced, like, you know, like, BET used to have, like, the top 10, the hottest top 10, this and that, you know. So he was, like, he was one of the people that, like, spearheaded that, those type of shows, you know. And, um, I get the Dallas, same thing. Homeless people. That's who I ran into first. Back out there getting them money. And, you know what I'm saying? Boom. So the, um, the show was that the, I was that the, I opera house, right? So it was this dude named they called Uncle Run. He liked this Jewish

dude. Like he, you know, he's the big doll. He got all the money. He is kind of like the producer of the show. And, you know, they're telling me like, yeah, bro, Uncle Run is he one of the ones he can get in their your career and, you know, like this and that. So I was doing so many different jobs on the show. Troy started me at the bottom because he wanted me to learn the totality of how to put a show together. You feel what I'm saying? And I'm like, Damn, bro, this dude really was serious about, like, helping me up or, like, putting me on. So all I know is Tyler Perry and Oprah going to beat up, you know what I'm saying? So I'm just trying to bump into them because, you know, this is my dream, whatever, whatever.

So I maneuvered my way into going to fix up Tyler Perry's dressing room, feel what I'm saying? So I'm the person that's putting his chairs out and the snacks that he like. And, you know, so boom, I'm in there doing that. And I'm really in there, like, wasting time because I want him to come in there. Like, you feel, I'm saying? So I could, like, try to, you know, like, spark off a conversation or something. So while I'm in the, while I'm in Tyler Perry Adjurston room prolonging it, setting up time, I look up on the monitor and I see Oprah on stage.

This is why it was a shock to me. The dude, Uncle Run, you know, the OG Jewish dude, like without all the money, he's white on white rose and everything, he could be, you know. But he told me that she probably wouldn't coming. He was like, you know, there's Oprah, man. She, you know, she might show up, she might not, she, you know, yeah. She got many things going on. So I kind of wouldn't expecting to see her because I'm like, okay.

would know this dude would know i looked up on the thing i seen i was like oh she came boom i grabbed my camera and turned it on it's on 1% the light blinking you know what i'm saying no phone no nothing i'm like bang Oprah on this stage and my camera on 1% i grab my camera i run to the stage okay Troy just had gave me this speech about how how easily you can get like sued and cost of production all this money with making mistakes on these shows so he was like look man you got to you know like keep your nose clean

you can't be you know you can't do this and you can't do that because one simple mistake you know now we got to shoot over we got to shoot over and we got to pay all these people there so you can't afford to so boom I get on, I, not only do I run to the stage, I get up on the stage, because I'm trying to increase my chances of meeting Oprah, right? So boom, Oprah on the stage, she's giving her little speech. Mind you, it was a show for TDJ, so everybody that was kind of showing him like some

appreciation and, you know, saying some good words about him and whatnot. So, and it's pictures of everything that I'm saying. You feel I'm saying? You could go see her on stage with the orange dress on at the opera house in Dallas. You know, so while she talking, I got comfortable and leaned on a chest. The chest is like a box that they store the cables in, you know, from all the different things that they plug up on stage. I thought the box was stable, but the box had wheels. So when I leaned on it, it rolled.

Brum, brum, brum, brum, brum, brum, brum. you know like made this noise so everybody like turned around and looked and she looked and that's when they hit my head like oh try just told me a mistake can make bro i'm sweating bullies pro now i don't even want to see open no more i want to run off stage like right after she give her speech and they clap i'm gonna disappear that's what i'm thinking i don't know how this happened she gave her speech Everybody clapped. I ran off stage.

I don't know how this happened. I ran into her and what I think was maybe like her assistant or somebody that was that started talking to me about what I had just done. You feel what I'm saying? I seen Oprah and I was like, like, bro, this is probably the most starstruck I ever been in life. like I seen Oprah and I just like real deal melted bro I just was like man you look you're the best bro like you like you the greatest thank you and she grabbed no cap bro no gas on Jesus Lorenzo Christ she grabbed my hand and was like it's fine you know it's okay everything is gonna be okay

you good holding my hand bro Oprah held my hand on my lord and savior Oprah hell my hand bro And when she grabbed my hand, I tripped out again. Like when she grabbed my hand, I was like, I tripped out again. She grabbed my hand. I tripped out. She grabbed it again. And like, you're good. You're going to be okay.

Shook my hand, bro. And I still, I still remember like the smell of this, like this fragrance, this fragrance that she had on, bro. It was, like, amazing. And I was looking at her hand. Like, dang, Oprah got regular hands. They look like mine. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, that hell, fingers look just like mine.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Man hands. No, no, she don't. Nah, she, man, look, no, no disrespect. But like, and I never, you know, like, I never view her like that from the TV show and stuff. But, man, Oprah fine, bro. Like, when I see her in real life, she got a really nice, curvy, you know, body. And I, you know, I like, I like curves.

You know what I'm saying? But like, and no disrespect, because I wasn't looking at her like that. Like, she's one of my idols. I ain't trying to, you know, I don't mean no disrespect. But that woman looked nice. Her body is like proportioned and she got a nice shape. You know what I'm saying? Call me off guard.

Not that I was expecting anything different, but that's one of the things. I was looking like, dang, bro, bro. You know, she's straight. You know what I'm saying? So this the kin part. after that I gave my camera to the assistant

it's blinking and the battery about to die so I'm just hoping that I get this picture bro like this is like Oprah right here

hoping that I get this picture I see the flash go off and I'm like oh I got it boom now I'm worried about if it's blueria because I know this woman probably don't know how to work this camera you know what I'm saying So I run back into like the little break room and I'm looking at the picture A1 beautiful A1

I'm in there like real dear having a moment bro like for real like tears in my eyes like I'm like bro dang like knowing knowing the fact that I've seen celebrities you know like A-clist saying that they never met Oprah and they wanted to meet Oprah and and the fact that that, like, I'm standing next to the richest woman that's my color, like my ethnicity, the richest black lady in the world, and I got one dime in my pocket. Like, 10 cents. That's all the money I had, bro, when I was standing next to Oprah. That's all the money.

I swear to good. I got the 10 cents because I found it. I picked it up. I seen the dime on the floor. I picked the dime above the floor and put it in my pocket. I swear to God. me in that moment I was thinking about like I'm happy that God put me in a position to meet Oprah while I was broke because if that if it wouldn't have happened that way I would have accredited that to whatever I had or whatever status I had but now he gets all the glory how could I do it I know it wasn't me at that point I'm broke busted and disgusted barely made it he on his plane artists you know I was I'm happy that happened like that.

That was God showing me like, you don't need money, you need me. You know what I'm saying? So with that, bro, it was, it meant so, it meant so much to me for, for so many different reasons. I'm sitting in the room, mind you, Oprah here, Dallas media is flooding the building. All the news sites and all you see is cameras and lights and microphones. everywhere they came to get Oprah swear to on Jesus DeWan Christ

I'm sitting in the I heard a lady was like Where's Oprah? Where does she go? I seen the way it passed by the door Cameras and lights everybody trying to find that they're trying to locate them So now I'm sitting back in that light Dang I hope I didn't

You know like they're looking for Oprah This woman busts up and say It was this life skin kid He just like came out of nowhere She took a picture with him And talked to him And then she disappeared And I heard a dude was like

Who? Who was the kid? Who it was? And I'm like, oh, bro, like I'm in trouble So then boom, I go hide my camera And, you know Go took it up under the thing So I ain't saying nothing I was ready to like flex on everybody

But when I found that out So I'm talking about I'm looking All these media people All these news people they're mad You know what I'm saying I'm hearing them on the phone Yeah, you know, Oprah, she disappeared. They said she was talking to something.

God further showing me the favor on my life. How could I pull this off? And these people with these, you know, I got this little cheap power shot, little cannon power shot. These people got big stupid cameras that you got a toe on your shoulders and, you know what I'm saying? So we on the van, we driving back on the van, and it's full of people that put these shows together. you know the writer and the producer we all on the van headed back to the hotel first time i stayed in the umni too like i didn't want to touch anything i didn't want to it was just looking too expensive like i was just feeling like man i don't i need to be like at the holiday end or something

so i can lay down i don't want to lay down on these people nice it just looked stuff in there look like it can get broken it costs a lot of money you know i had self-esteem issues then you feel i'm saying which i still suffer from now you know when you come from the environment i from, you just kind of like always finding a reason to throw yourself in the trash, because that's where you feel like you belong. And when somebody trying to pull you up, you will self-savitage so easy. I do it so much. I do it so much.

Soon as something great happened, I talk myself out of it. You know what I'm saying? So, boom. They're on the van, like, they call at home. Babe, I seen Oprah. She was standing two feet next to me. Oh, she read my script that I wrote. Oprah did this and that.

I bust out the camera. I go, yeah. boom whole van get quiet everybody get quiet they're looking like when this like when this happened like what you was you feel i'm the only person that got a picture with her if you look on i'm the only person that got a picture of her that day feel i'm saying everybody was quiet on the van like now they're looking at me like i'm fooled like they're looking at me like who the clean-up dude the little janitor boy the driver how you get a picture of Oprah god's that is showing me feel I'm saying, I finally got the monkey off my back.

You feel me? Remember, I was doing the great debaters, and Oprah showed up while I was eating, and I didn't get a chance to meet her. And that was always something I regretted, something that just pained me. But it came back full circle, and I still got the meet her, like, in another setting, and it was more exclusive, you know? So God is good. me working with Troy and him providing that opportunity for me with a man I went to work with

BET you know like that was always my dream I grew up watching BET you know so the fact that like I was working for them man my whole city was excited everybody was supporting me it was just like a like a great time you know what I'm saying so from uh from me working with from me Me working with Troy and doing these different TV shows for different networks, I met this lady called Jennifer, Troy's friend. They went to Southern and Baton Rouge together. You know, they took some of the same classes. Jennifer called me, you know, Troy introduced us, and she called me and she was like, I need

you to shoot some behind-the-scenes footage for this movie. It's a movie called At Mammu's Feet that starred Tommy Ford. Michael Keith from 112. It was a nice little cast, so I was excited. Like, that was big to me. One of the guys didn't end up, his plane didn't land, or something didn't happen, and I ended up having to read his part. So I got an actual part in the movie.

And Gail Bean, who is, like, going crazy right now. Like, she, like, a huge starts it everywhere. She ain't Snowfall. She ain't Pea Valley. They just did a little spin. Went off with her in Snowfall. She ain't a lot of stuff, you know what I'm saying? Shout out the Gilbeam.

But she played my girlfriend in this movie. I met a guy there named Carl from Atlanta on that set. He's a movie director. He asked me that I want to come to Atlanta and shoot this thing that he does with Cam Newton. You know, little backstory on that. No gas. It's the truth. Jesus Chaville Christ.

Me and my homeboy was watching the championship game. It was the, I think it was the 49ers versus the Panthers. I think that's what the game was. Bro, I'm the biggest Cam Noon fan in the world. I'm the biggest, because Cam Newton is what I wanted to physically be. You know, I wanted to be 6'6, this tall and can run it forth. Like, he is everything I wanted to be as an athlete. Matter of fact, that's what helped me give up my NFL dreams.

Like, Cam New made it. I'm good. Like, that's what I wanted to be. He's doing it. He's playing the position. Like, that's what I was satisfied with that. That's just how much of a fan I was. You feel what I'm saying?

I was cool. I was cool with that. I'm always saying I pray for something. You're going to hear me say that a lot. Me and my bro, Quinn Knuckles, who was watching the game. I said, bro, why? am i here in mansfield in this little small country town why can't i be somewhere like doing something like film and cam newtoner you have not because you ask not when they thought hit my mind

i got on my knees right there while we was watching the game i got on my knees and i said it out i said god i want to work cam new please bless me with that opportunity i got up and start back watching the game you know what i'm saying call asked me did i want to come to Atlanta to shoot this thing with cam newton right we there i got a chance to meet him Crazy, we're a crazy, crazy story with, we can't. I'm used to doing sports videography a certain way. I'm used to doing it a certain way. So it's all kind of like cinematic and slow and poetic,

and that's how I'm used to doing it. So the first day, that's how I filmed it. So they showed it to them. You know, we was in like the little room, and they showed it to them. So I'm waiting on the response. I was like, oh, yeah, bro, that's great, bro. He got up and said, like, bro, what is this? This trash.

Who did this? So, you know, everybody licked at me. I took the lick, though. I stood up and like, hey, bro, that was me. That's my idea. I did the footage, all that, boom, boom, boom. Made people laugh at how, you know, how easily I took my lick. So after that, he was like, yeah, bro, sports videography works like this.

You know, he was like, man, put me some rich on me corn and some of these people in that. because I had the, I had, um, what's queen, we will, we will rock you. You know, that's what I had in the, we are the champions. That was the music I had, you feel me. So he was like, bro, what is, man, put me some, you know, some Rich on the Quine at, boom, boom. We got cool after that, you know, me and him start vibing after that, you know what I'm saying? So, um, I was working with, uh, Cam Newton. It was so hot.

I had some fake polo boots on them that was fake it's like the the UPSA you know it's like it looked like

it's too many dudes on the horse you know what I mean you might don't you might don't know nothing about that level of brokenness but um

but I had I had them shoes on and it was so hot bro like they was melting to my feet that's how I know they was fake because the sun

was had my feet on fire so I was like boom when we go in today from filming I'm gonna go get me some shoes at the Kmart

across from the hotel. I go get the shoes, but they ain't have strings in them. It was just like the little sliding shoes. At the time, Kevin Gates was popping with the phrase, I don't get tired. So I was like, oh, you can't tie the shoes. So I got on the internet, I'm like, hey, y'all look, I got these new Kevin Gates shoes, no strings.

They don't get tied. You know, people thought it was funny. Did numbers on Vine and, you know, stuff like that. My partner hit me was like, hey, bro, you should just say that in his voice. You know what I'm saying? My partner, Black Jesus. He hit me up.

He was like, man, you should say that in his voice and put the stuff on your face. Does he say, Black Jesus? Yeah, that's his name, Black Jesus. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, for real. He, he's an herbal doctor. You know what I'm saying? He do herbs and stuff.

But he told me like, like, man, you should do this. Boom. So I go get a Sharpie, draw the tattoos on my face. Get the shoes, now I said in his voice, man, yeah, you know, I got these new Kevin Gates shoes that don't get tired. You know, I don't get tired. Man, I swear, bro, I sit my phone down. I go to sleep. If you sleep hot at night, you know how disruptive that can be.

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I wake up my life never been the same after that. After I did that video, my life has never been the same. I woke up, I thought my phone was broke. I was turning it on and off because I'm thinking like something wrong with my screen. But it was notifications, like just running like a river. It just wouldn't stop. You feel what I'm saying? So I'm seeing I got all these missed calls.

I started answering the phone. Everybody like, hey, bro, you're on World Star. Bro, you viral. Chris Brown just posted you Such and such just like Went crazy bro At this I didn't even know I was viral

I didn't know what viral was You feel what I'm saying I know that I had like 3,000 followers and now I got like 17K So I'm cool with that You feel I'm saying I'm still just trying to

Do my music and You know Rap and that's what I was focused on Soldier Boy soldier boy manager i think called me and like schooled me on what's viral was so he was like look brus soldier wanted me let you know this is what's going on with you right now probably the most helpful information i ever received i don't know why like soldier boy wanted to give me that knowledge or whatever but that's what sat me on the right path because i didn't know what to do with

I got a picture of me and Soldier Boy on the couch. Me, Soldier Boy and Bobby Shmurter on the couch. We was in, live in Miami. But that dude invited me to, he was like, hey, man, he having his birthday party. They called him Dre. They were like, yeah, bro, Drey having his party at Such and Such Pull Up. I was in Atlanta. Drove all the way from Atlanta to Miami, I think it was.

We at the Fountain Blue. You know what I'm saying? I got a chance to meet him. I got pictures. You know what I got a chance to meet Soldier Boy. big fan bro so you know that that meant a lot and um it after that bro i just started going crazy so you know they was telling me like bro you got to do more videos so i just start doing kevin gates everything numbers just going up going crazy you feel what i'm saying me not realizing

like like and it's so crazy that it's so crazy how i met kevin gates i was i mean how I came to know about him. I was doing a documentary. I was filming a documentary called Who's your favorite rapper? Favorite rapper? I was in Bat Rouge. So I'm just interviewing random people.

Hey, bro, who your favorite rapper is? Everybody saying, hey, man, Gates is the truth. Kevin Gates. Everybody, you know, I interviewed Big Head of Dome, Doctor. He, man, Gates, man, Kevin Gates is the truth. So I'm like, man, who is Kevin Gates? My homeboy at Baby Savage, which is, like, he liked

one of the biggest mogul. other than, like, Master P and Baby to come from Louisiana. But he's just from North Louisiana. You know, it's kind of hard because they dominate the state. You know, if you ain't from New Orleans or Banerud, you're going to have to put ten times more work in it. But, man, he got, like, he didn't, you know, sold all these records, and he got, like, skyscrapers, like, buildings in Shreport.

You feel what I'm saying? Like, actual buildings that he owned that he built from the ground up. You feel what I'm saying? All from money he's making off the music industry. You feel what I'm saying? And, I mean, like, he's like a guy that's like in his own line and he's just not concerned with telling his story. He cool with the fact that he drive rose versus and he got all this money and you feel me, he cool with that. You know what I'm saying?

He humble like you because I'm trying to tell you, you know, like you wanted Joe Rogan and you think I'm true. But, um, but he, uh, he was like, yeah, bro, Gay's my favorite rapper. Kevin Gates is the most talented, man, him was arguing, man, we argued for a five hours. was about who was better out of Kevin Gates of Lil Wayne. You feel what I'm saying? And I'm just like, bro, I ain't know. He was like, man, this dude the most talented dude ever. It'll never be another rapper in history like Kevin Gates.

The more I start listening to him and I start listening to his wordplay, you know, you don't really get that in the South. You don't really get that from Southern rappers, but he was focused on his wordplay. Boom. So he ended up getting out of jail that first time. time and I snuck on stage. I painted BWA on my shirt. You know, I painted it. I hand painted it. I got pictures. I made my necklace, right? I had like can tops and I used the quarter for my charm and I spray painted it gold. You know what I'm saying? Swart of God,

bro, on Jesus, on Jesus Shavelle Christ. I spray the gold. So they was letting me everywhere because I had the BWA shirt on. They didn't know it was painted. You know what I'm so I ended up getting on stage I'm standing next to him I got footage you know I'd snuck on stage now I'm standing next to Kevin Gates this was way before I went viral this was like five or six years before I went viral like you know I just wanted a chance to uh I just wanted a chance to meet him you know what I'm saying and I never I never forget this bro I never I never forget this I didn't recognize like him and his wife Drica Gates they were sitting down we was in Monroe. And I was so excited to talk to him until I disregarded her. I really didn't pay her no

attention. I just was like, hey, look, gaites. Man, bro, look, I've been following you. He ain't saying nothing to me. He just looked at drinker. Like, he just, he looked at drink in the face like, is you cool? Is you all right? And that's what let me know, like, oh, she was talking to him and I just stole the conversation and disregarded her and basically kind of like scooted her at the way to start talking to him, you feel what I'm saying? And when you're a man of respecting principles, that ain't cool. So I instantly corrected that.

I was like, oh, my bad, bro. I was like, look, bro, I apologize to Drick. I was like, man, look, I ain't trying to take y'all conversation. Hey, bro, y'all finish y'all conversation. I'm going to wait my turn. You feel what I'm saying? And I feel like, as a man, you got to learn to do that. When you're wrong, I take your L and correct that and keep it moving.

Don't get your pride involved and create all these problems You feel I'm saying But men do that When they wrong They feel like Okay now I gotta get loud And get extra masculine

You know what man Take your lick Keep it going You feel I'm saying I don't got no problem respecting no men bro I ain't got no problem Being corrected

Somebody pulled me to the side Like hey bro That wasn't cool Because I don't know a lot I ain't grow up with a pops I ain't grow up with a daddy I got four sisters And my mama

I was the only boy I'm around Nothing but emotions and women all day long. So what do I know? You feel what I'm saying? Thank for that God, bro, men into my life to teach me stuff, but it's still a lot I don't know. And it's been a lot of times where, you know, my partners, people I'm cool with,

had to say, hey, Cleggs, bro, look, men don't move like that, bro. That wasn't no manly thing that you did right there, bro. You don't need to do that. But thank you, bro. Thank you for putting me on point. I appreciate you. That's it. We ain't going to get into it.

We ain't going to, you know. So, um, this right here, bro, like this, Kevin Gaystuh, really, like, turned me in, I don't mean to my own horn, but it turned me into a superstar, bro. Like, I ain't no cap, bro. No cap. I don't beat Jesus and little Jesus. It turned me into a superstar, bro. It turned me into, bro.

I'm in the stove. I knew it was different. I'm in Atlanta at the time. I'm filming with Cam Newton. You feel what I'm saying? People from, and, you know, shout out the Cam, bro. He probably don't even know I went by her while I was working for his foundation. You know what I'm saying?

I was working for the Caminoon Foundation when I went by her. He gave me a job. He was paying good to. You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to cap. They make money over there at the Cameroon Foundation. But, yeah, bro, like, we went to the mall. Me and Carl, we went to the mall.

People were seeing me like, that's the dude you the dude dude dude dude to Kevin Gates and I'm like you know it's changing like everybody

I'm taking pictures in the mall you know and me bro I ain't like no no neat dude bro

every day you see me my shirt don't fit I got taco stains on my clothes and you know I probably got you just told me

oh that hey bro you got something in your beard you got something I'm talking away you know what I'm saying that bro

that's me you know what I'm saying like so now I'm like, dang, should I start, like, wearing clean shirts and, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm like, you know, life totally changed, bro. Life totally changed. And shout out to DC Youngflyer in Fat and Paid and Paid because we were some of the, yeah, my boy, fat and paid, bro. That's his name, Fat and Paid, you know what I'm saying?

He's wild, too. He wanted a pioneers, bro. He wanted a goat. but uh they kind of like like dc unfly he kind of like help push me because he was all ready there and when he seen me coming up he gave me the assist him and funny mike you know what saying and no cap bro when funny mike shared when funny mike shared my video i definitely seen the difference one post he posted me one time on facebook i got 20 000 followers of one post. He is the person

that dominate with the kids. You know what I'm saying? Right now and I know that the industry don't realize this, man, them kids don't care about y'all. They don't care about none of y'all with y'all. Talking about who your artist that you're pushing, what's your agenda. They care about funny Mike.

My little nephews, my little nieces, don't care that I took a picture with whoever. Don't care what movie I was in. Uncle Jermaine, can you call Funny Mike? That's all they No, bro, listen, every kid, they do not care about who's on your TV, who's on your sitcom, who's on your Netflix, they go on to YouTube and they want to watch funny mic, bro.

They don't care about none of it. Every kid that I meet, every kid that I meet. And I'm like, in my mind, I've seen this happen before. Like, you know how to see, you know, movies when somebody, it's like this big undertaking and people don't understand what's going on. But yeah, bro, like, like them kids, y'all. y'all done they all they want to do is funny mike you know what i'm saying but he's sharing my post and it turned me up this kevin gate stuff like got me on a whole different bro even chris brown

started uh like doing the videos you know like liking my post and sharing my stuff you know what I'm saying shout out hey bro I got to say this shout out to chris breezy bro brieze a real one bro Chris brown a real one i got it bro i got to tell this story breeze a real one bro i'm I'm talking about we, we locked in forever. And it ain't just because he likes skin and I'm light skin, you know what I'm saying? And he got the light skin look like this, like that, you know what, and where it looks like the wind blowing in your face, you know what I'm saying? You got to get that down packing you light skin.

But it ain't because we both light skin, you feel me? Like, this a real dude. I'm at the Florida and Packer y'all fight, right? You're going to always hit me to say, I'm sneaking in. I snuck in. You know what I'm saying? Los Vegas security. What's up?

I'm ripping on there right now. Y'all ain't on y'all ain't on y'all job i got patch i did my thing what's up you know what's it? I'm flexing on y'all but but um yeah mgm grand secured I snuck in there what's how you know boom I'm looking for like a little break in the gate I'm walking around from the outside they got like the little rails up I find one it's like a maze I'm going through boom ended up round outer celebrities you know my home boy and one of my uh one of my friends that's a female they were still outside of the gate. So we're a static Like we over there Shaking hands like they're like Oh you got in You know we we trip that I'm telling them like

Bray y'all should have came Y'all should have came with me But see they don't believe They don't believe like me Man I know I drove From Louisiana or Los Vegas

In this hot desert Air Bradley working Barely got money for gas You know what I'm saying I don't faith At the floor I fight I know it's gonna be crazy Celebrities I'm gonna get

crazy footage You know, that's why I'm there. I snuck them in. Now, all three are seeing, everybody coming through that, bro. Listen, it's a difference between Chris Brown and regular celebrities, bro. It's a difference. When people was walking through, they was getting out. I was right in the place where they was getting out their cars, going into the floor and

walking and the paparazzi was set up right there. I was a part of the paparazzi. I had my camera. I seen people, you know, get out of there. I'm like, oh, that's such and such. Take a few pictures. When Chris Brown got out that car, bro, you couldn't see nothing. Camera flashes, blinding everything.

It just looked like a big light. It was crazy. So much commotion and so many people tried to get to him. This ain't no cap on Big Jesus and Little Jesus. This ain't no cap. He got out that car. He walking. I'm thinking in my head like, man, I want to do he remember me from my G.

I want to do he remember me from Instagram. Should I say nothing? No, I don't say something. You're going to look stupid. It's Chris Brown. He ain't worried about you. I took my chance. I took my shot.

I got footage of it. It's on YouTube right now. I got footage of this moment. It's on YouTube. You know what I'm saying? He walking through cameras flashing people going crazy, people, fain, sweat, air. Well, I said, Breezy. This Clutch Williams from Instagram, swear to God.

That boy turned around while all this going on. Walk back. Oh, Clutch. Someone ain't nice to meet you. Brian. Michael Jackson Jr. Jr., Jr. Chris Benoit Brown shook my hand. Bro.

Me, my homie, my home girl, we was done, bro. Like, I ain't even want to meet nobody else, bro. And this was crazy. This will let you know. And see, I'm just a dude. Like, I'm going to give people their flowers. You know what I'm saying? Like, people be calling out.

Oh, he fanned that. You know, he's a starstruck. Very. I've been wanting to meet these people my whole life. I ain't got time to play with y'all and act normal. You know what I'm saying? Not enjoy it. I'm acting normal.

Like, yeah, I see. Nah, bro. Like, real deal. I had just ordered a burger, some nachos, I had a big drink, I had like some candy. It was all behind me on this little table. It's probably still there. I never touched it, bro. Appetite gone, bro.

I ain't worrying by none of this food. You feel what I'm saying? And what I didn't know is that my home girl that was with me, she was recording. She was like, I got it on videos. I was like, bro, don't stop playing with me. Like, don't even play with me like that. She was like, no. The lens was a tight lens, though.

You know, so if it was wider, you could have really seen the, but you can see exactly what I said, everything in that video. You know what I'm saying? But shout out to that boy Chris Brown. And I got that on video. I got that clip for y'all, too. I got the receipts. But, man, it was so many celebrities and stuff.

Like, you know, but I started, I was doing crazy numbers. I'm trending. I got the internet in the chokehold. This Kevin Gays. This impersonation swept the internet, bro. And this is the thing. I don't think that I'm from the right place. I'm associated with the right people to get my flowers for that.

You know what I'm saying? I'm from the country. You know, and when you're from the country, this is how they treat us. This is how they treat us from Louisiana. And for artists just pop off, say, from Atlanta or Detroit, they're in the game. They're a rapper. They're considered one of them people. Us, bro, we got five, six, seven steps that we go to before they start considering us to be like,

you feel what I'm saying? Shout out the Raw 4-9 because he really wanted them dudes. You know what I'm saying? What the hell he? He really one of them, dude, bro. He really one of them people that they look at like a superstar. That's so hard to accomplish when you're from Louisiana. Because when you phone Louisiana and you pop out, they're just like, okay, yeah, he's going to get shot or he fin to be in trouble soon.

Like, we're just going to wait on him to self-destruct. We ain't got to involve him. You feel what I'm saying? But I'm going to tell you what I did. I'm going to tell you what I spearheaded and how important I am to Internet comedy. I'm really kind of like the Godfather, in a sense, in a certain way. I got to say this. I got to be honest about this.

And nobody ain't going to give me this credit. I got to take it. I got to take it. Okay, boom. This Kevin Gay's character, right, his brand, you know, he's a serious dude. He built on morals and principles in respect. So I'm thinking about like, I can't take this joking thing to the point to where it's kind of messing with his brain.

You feel what I'm saying? I don't want to do nothing to tarnish his image because I'm a fan. You know, I'm a fan. I'm a Kevin Gates fan. He's one of my favorite rappers. So I spent days and weeks trying to think about how could I like kind of cultivate this character into doing something that would help his brand instead of hurting it?

Like, I can't be doing skits and had a man looking like a cornball because that ain't what his original person is. You feel me? He a cool dude. Women like him. He like a sex symbol and, you know, dudes respect him. So I got to try to find a way to keep this going. What I came up with is I'm going to make the character so tough and gangster that he ignorant. You know, he don't know what's going on in the regular world, in the regular scheme of things.

He's only focused on being tough. You feel what I'm saying? So you'll see me do a skit to where I'm praying, you know, I'm in a church in them. Man, Lord, you know, if my ops come, man, you know, let me put their eye on them. You know, let me, you know, yeah. You know, Lord, I want to be victorious over all my ops. You know, that ain't gangsters me, Lord. I'm so gangster that I'm gangster in prayer.

That was the funny thing. Like, that was the comedic spin that I put on it. I'm gangster at the job interview. I do a skit, you know, at the job interview, like, yeah, you know, I need a little job so I can go, you know, buy me some pounds. I'm trying to sell some pounds. So when I get your money, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to flip these little pounds. That was the, the comedians that's popular right now, most of them have that character as the biggest part of their arsenal. the overaggressive

super gangster like that character in some type of way I originated that if you go back and look 2014 15 when I first went viral and people don't even know

I was our way back then everybody was wearing wigs dressing like a woman imitating old people that was the norm That was the way that people was being funny. It wasn't no characters like that in 2014 and 2015.

Pull it up. You feel what I'm saying? Pull it up. This the truth. On Jesus, you feel, Christ. It wasn't none of them characters. So I know, like, people ain't going to give me my props for that. And I ain't trying to make nobody mad because I want to work with all y'all.

Everybody that's popping, bro. I love each and every internet comedian. I support them. I'm watching. You feel me? But I'm just, I just got to take my flowers like. I spearheaded that. You feel what I'm saying?

And if I'm wrong, correct me. You know what I'm saying? And I'm going to just say this. Shout out to Mario to coming. Shout out to Mario to coming because his first video, his first video was kind of along those lines. But I just hadn't seen it until later on in my career with him saying like, you a whole whole whole out of you.

That's a big thing, Louisiana. You a whole whole whole out of you. That's like a catch phrase. It went crazy. You know what I'm saying? It means like... You a ho-ho? You a whole...

You a whole. You know, but the word sounded like, it's not like you're saying you a ho-ho. But, man, you're a whole-ho out-you-like. You're a complete whole. Not a half a hole. You're a complete... What's the out-you-out-you? Out here.

Oh, okay. You're a whole-ho out here. Out here. But, you know, when we said, man, you're a whole-ho-out-you-fe-and-sha. You feel what I'm saying? Because we don't got time to break out and then come back and say here, out here, out-chil. That's easy. You know, black people, I was tongue lazy.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I was just, I was just in a barbershop, this dude from the U.K. I had said, show live. And he was like, wait, wait, what? What you say? I said, show lives. He was like, what does that even mean? I was like, bro, show lives meaning sure is.

But we ain't going to break their word down. Show live. In one word, show leaves. I mean, it's still not. By the way, sure is. Still isn't a complete limit. Now, you see how messed up, bro. It sure is.

It sure is. Yeah, you're still not really saying what it is. Bro, you hear me. It sure is to show live. You know, that's a thing, bro. That's a word in the South. That's how we, you know, everybody that's talking. That's what people say, yeah, for real, bro, show live.

That show live. I'll say, I'll say y'all, everyone, you know, when I say, you know, are y'all going to dinner? You can see people like in California, like, they'll snicker or if you're up north, you know, And you realize, you know, like, I don't, I'm like, I think they just, they just laugh at me? Right, right. And then I'm like, y'all, right, right, you know. Right, right. I was in the pool in California, and we was, like, playing like dodgeball.

And one of the balls got out the pool. So I was paused. But I was looking for it. And I came back to the pool because I couldn't find out. I was like, hey, y'all, what a ud, n' it? What a other ball is? They was like, what? What?

Hey, homie, what you just say, homie? I said, what an uh-n-n-it? Un is where is the other one? Right. You know what I'm saying? I ain't got time for all that. What an un-n't it. You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? But, but like, but, you know, like, that's just, you know, like, that's just how we talk. But, um, but yeah, bro, like this Kevin Gay's stuff changed my life, bro. Change my life. I'm getting booked. People paying me to post on my page. I'm seeing money I'd never seen before you feel what I'm saying and what's crazy why I got to commend him is he ain't never interfered like he ain't never send me no cease and desist or he ain't never he let me get paid you know what I'm saying he could he could have got on his page and said hey man he's fake y'all stop supporting him or whatever man I'd have fed my family other people family my little partners we didn't man this all came from this you feel what I'm saying that's that's why I got to commend them him bro because he let me eat this changed my life and my family life all on this man back what he did

his slang and his you know what I'm saying I'm out here imitate and I imitate a lot of other people I that's all I do you know what I'm saying he has just took off I imitate a lot of people bro his just went crazy it just took off but um okay so boom that's going on when it really went to another level, you know, I think at this time I might have like, like 70, 80,000 followers. When it really went to another level from, I got Instagram and a chokehold,

you know, Instagram and Facebook, you know, it's mine. I monetized my YouTube page. I didn't know you can make money off of it. So I finally monetized it, and it's after I didn't have hits on YouTube, Finally monetized it NBA young boy was incarcerated at the time You know what I'm saying

So I woke up at probably like Of course I know that Of course Shout out the top man Shout out to the top His auntie Somebody was Going live

And recording him getting out of jail So I screen recorded it You know what I'm saying So I'm like yeah I'm gonna post this on You know young boyfriend I'm posted on my page Same effect as the Kevin Gay stuff

I recorded that video I put it on my page and one day it got like 200,000 views and I was like dang next day another 200,000 views I think it's at like 600,000 right now

I seen the check from that like I seen what I was going to get paid from that video and I'm like I need to find some type of way to incorporate like NBA Youngboy

into my algorithm you know what I'm saying then I got the idea oh I'm doing Kevin Gates I need to find who impersonates NBA young boy you know what I'm saying boom one of the dude was popping off that talk like him he can sound just like him but I called him I was like look bro you know I'm popular I'm doing skits and I'm trying to see if you want to do some skits with me his mama got on the phone like no you're not about to use him for his talent and you ain't finner you feel what I'm saying And I'm trying to, I'm giving them a platform, bro. Yeah, he can use the same material.

We'll both use the same content. Come on, bro. Yeah, she's like, you ain't fin to try to use my baby. Boom. I said, cool. He's using me. Facts. I'm fin to put him on.

Now, this other little dude, his name, a 3-3-4 little peanut. I had seen some 3-3-4, because 3-4 is Alabama, you know. So he put his area code. That's why, like, if you look at my YouTube, it's clutch three when that money. I understand the air. code. I'm just saying peanut. Right. 3, 3, 4 little peanut. You know what I'm saying? Rispy's my dog. He, uh, I call him. You know, I'm like, hey, bro, I'm trying to, he, man, where you

at? I'm coming to night. I'm coming to night right now. You know what I'm saying? I'm coming right now. So I'm like, oh, okay, this little dude, hungry. He really wanted. You feel I'm saying? But he was just young, you know. So I got on the phone with his mama, and she was like, well, I got to meet you. And how old is this guy? He probably about like 15 to 16 at the time. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. She was like, well, I got to meet you and, you know, I want to talk to you and see this, this and that.

I drove all the way to Alabama from Louisiana. It's probably like eight-hour drive. I drove to Alabama. He from Union Springs. This is real deal. When I got there, his community was there. I just thought it was going to be his mama. Man, I'm talking like, the yard man, the preacher, the electricity man, the mechanic.

Everybody was waiting. me to pull up. When I pulled up, I had to shake everybody by hand and everybody got a chance, ask me their question. When you're bringing them back? What's you going to do with him? Blase-Blazay. They really protected this little dude, bro. They loved them. They were scared to let him go with me. You feel what I'm saying? He got in the car, did what I liked about him. I was buying food, and I didn't know his mama had gave him some money, you know, but he came out of his pocket with all the money. He was like, man, look, this is my mama gave me, bro. You can have it. You know what I'm saying?

I'm saying. And I was like, dang, that's crazy. My kids don't do that. You know what I'm saying? That's what letting me know I was dealing with a genuine dude. You feel what I'm saying? So, we get to Louisiana. We're going to do our first skit. We shopping for clothes and stuff to do the skit with. He was like, bro, we ain't going to post no video. We're going to post a pic. And I was like, nah, bro, you know, not understanding. Okay, he's young. He onto some stuff that I may not know about you know what I'm saying as far as like internet comedian he had his own little wave going his pictures were going viral I was just all about videos yeah you know we took a picture we posted the picture bro shut the internet down you got to realize young boy the biggest

star in the world he the biggest star in where he do more numbers he the biggest star in the you know bro this picture was everywhere I'm seeing myself get to new platforms that I was trying to get on that I wasn't on at first. I'm like, oh, yeah, this young boy character is what it is. You feel what I'm saying? So, once again, young boy, a serious dude. So I'm telling peanut, I'm like, hey, bro, look, don't do no skits or nothing that this man going to feel like it's an insult, bro.

We ain't trying to disrespect nobody. You feel what I'm saying? We're just trying to do what we're doing, but we ain't trying to hurt what they're doing, trying to help ourselves. You feel me? It's wrong at that point. You know what I'm saying? So I'm monitoring like his content, but he did a couple of little videos.

I had to say, hey, bro, take that down. Bro, we ain't doing that, you know. And that's just me. And I'm just putting that out there for people that don't know how that situation was ran and how I move. I ain't about disrespecting nobody, bro, because I don't want nobody disrespecting me. Because I'm willing to go there if you do it. I'm willing to make it happen.

You know what I'm saying? So, bro, we, you know. We super viral. We're dropping videos. My YouTube page went from like 30,000 subscribers to like 200,000. You were at 70 last time. 70 is when I posted it. Okay.

You know what I'm saying? I posted the, I posted the, I was at 30,000. I posted the young boy getting out of jail. It got me to 70,000. Right. Peanut. That bit. Our videos took me from 70,000 to like 200,000.

Okay. Feel what I'm saying? I'm looking at the money these videos generating, bro. It's unbelievable. I ain't never seen this type of money in my life. You know, I ain't never seen this type of. This is Instagram? YouTube.

Okay, YouTube. You know, we was making the videos on Instagram and just posting them on YouTube. You feel what I'm saying? Bro, I'm looking like, man, I don't even know what to do with 20,000. And I swear to God, bro, I'm like, man, they ain't, man, people ain't fin to send me that for real. This is a game, bro. I ain't no way they're going to let me get $20,000 for making a video.

Yeah, they're going to take something out. They're going to take 50%. Yeah, bro. Like, it's a hoax. It's a hoax. It's a hoax. Because I know they ain't fin to let me go buy this juror and do it. I ain't feeling let me do that, man.

Real deal, bro. Like, when I say, man, I start seeing checks, bro, like from YouTube, me and peanut turn we turn he got 600 pail tennis shoes in my house he buying them every day he buying them every day we in the mile he buying stuff all people foot he's like hey bro i like them take that off he gave you $200 you know what I'm saying say your money bro y'all say you man i just want to let y'all know yeah don't don't don't don't do that right you don't do it like like for real bro say your money because your money going to save you business start businesses start businesses the richest people are not the people that made the most money in the NBA

the richest people are the people that open the most businesses with the money they made from the NBA feel I'm saying magic Johnson and shack and people like this they're great businessmen it ain't about getting a 200 million dollar contract if you're going to spend it all you know what I'm saying you made 200 million and you gave uh roseworths and Lamborghini a hundred million you know now they went to the NBA you feel what I'm saying so I'm just saying like bro say you money because we bro we did a lot of man I'm I'm getting checks for like like 30,000 I'm like hey peanut we're gonna take we're gonna say this you know we're gonna take 15 000 to just go out of town and blow it you know what I'm saying we ain't doing nothing special

we eating and buying clothes and you know what I'm saying paying for everybody food and seeing people on the street and getting them 20 and 60 and $100. You know what I'm saying? Like real deal, bro. I made some serious money, bro. Some life-changing money on YouTube. I should be doing a lot better

than what I am right now. It's hurtful. I don't even want to talk about it. I only want to talk about it. I ain't going to I ain't putting no numbers out there. I ain't bringing no numbers up. I ain't even going to do that. I'm just tell y'all, say your money, bro. Say your money. You're going to cry. It's going to hurt you.

save it now me and peanut bro phenomenon we took over the internet bro when I say we ran it on Jesus Chaville Christ when nobody else getting no motion we on every blog we on every every page shade room everything every day every video we drop

now we bring it in more characters we bring it codec black look alike um um everybody that was hitting me up, they was auditioning in my inbox. Hey, bro, I look like where I wave? Please, put me on a skit. Man, where you at? I'm in Texas.

We're gassing up going to get them. You know what I'm saying? We're on tour, bro. Finding lookalikes. I got this whole, like, S&L. You know what I'm saying? And shout out to my niece, uh, Day Day, because she portrayed, uh...

Your niece isn't really named Day Day Day. My niece is named Day Day. Real deal. Shout out my, uh, it's, it's my, it's my, it's my, bro is my brother booboo her uncle is my brother booboo niece that's my niece day day and my bro is named boobu you know what i'm saying he real name rik kendry clay but you know that we call it booboo you know what i'm saying so and shout out to my dog shout out to boobu but my niece day day start playing uh janea michelle uh young boy baby mama you know what i'm saying so i had

they little saga going up You feel what I'm saying? And it was just like, bro, it was going crazy. It was everywhere. We was trending everywhere. You feel what I'm saying? So with that, I didn't know like, I didn't know like I started, me and Peananast started, like bumping heads. Nothing serious.

Nothing serious. But like, he'll just, okay, young boy got dreads. You got dressed. This is a port of your costume. We need this. He'll just run off and cut his hair off. That take you a year to get to this link. Right.

And I'm like, bro, why would you cut your hell? What are we doing skis? I don't know. So we just start bumping heads on, you know, stuff like that, bro. And me not realizing, like, he's a lot younger than me. You know, I'm just expecting him to know. You feel what I'm saying? And, like, brumpton like, petty stuff.

He's going to, he going to kitchen and eat my last piece of my burger or something. We fall out. We are. Bro, why you ate my burger, bro? all the stores were closed I'm hungry I ate it we're falling out

over stuff like that bro you feel me not in physical we ain't disrespecting each other we're just bumping heads like having arguments because he really like

my little brother he's living with me I'm raising him you feel what I'm saying his mama love me to do his mom he didn't move in with me at this point

he's going to school uh-uh he not he not he not but high school that's over at this time now he he got his GED

he had his GED He had a GD. So he living with me at this point. He's staying with me. His mama calling me like, yeah, you know, keep him down there with you because it ain't nothing but trouble here. You feel what I'm saying? So I'm trying my best to do just that.

She's trying to really look out for him. So, bro, we fell out because this how simple it was, this how crazy was. We was at the store. We got something to eat. And I asked me, did he want to drink? He was like, nah, I was like, well, I'm fin to get a Coke, where you're sure you on one in the drink. He's like, no, I'm straight on the drink.

You know what I'm saying? He got water that's how I get a water. So I put my, this, you know, I Coke, Coke. And Coke is bad for you, bro. You know what I'm saying? But Coke, man. I got a problem, bro. And I need some help, man.

I need somebody to help me fix this, bro. I can't stop drinking Coke, bro. And I go to Sprife about two days. I'm right back with the Coke, bro. This is the best one out of the fountain? Fountain Coke? Not out of the bottle Out of the fountain

If I see it If I see like a fountain one I'll drink the fountain one I don't like them out of the bottle Man a fountain Shout out of the dairy queen Man That Coke out of that dairy queen

Fountain Lord Jesus Man that soda's soda Fired bro And you know the soda Fire when you drink it And you got to look at it Like you're trying to figure out

What's wrong with it You know what I'm saying Get you another hit Make you say a cuss word God, man, that's soda from Derek Queen so far, but I got my Coke in the freezer. I'm thinking about it all day. Like, man, when I get home, I'm slaughtered that Coke. Coke in the freezer.

I get home, it's this much, you know what I'm saying? He and, I said, peanut, bro, you drunk my Coke, bro. Bro, I'm thirsty, having nothing to drink. We arguing. I'm, man, I just asked you, did you want something? And you said, nah, you didn't drunk my soda. Feel what I'm saying? He was like, bro, I'm tired of you, bro.

You always complain about everything. Me, not knowing he's young. He really don't understand. You feel, me, like boundaries as it pertains to people's stuff. Yeah. You know, he got mad at me. He went home. You know, he went home.

So, I'm, you know, like, he on my mind every day. Because he didn't tell me about stuff that happened while he was out there. And, you know, I just didn't like it. And I didn't feel like it was safe, you know. So I was trying to keep him down there with me because he's a superstar in Louisiana. And before he dropped the video, I told him, I was like, bro, you've been doing these pictures and videos for your fans in Alabama. Wait until I introduce you to my Louisiana fan base. It's going to go crazy.

I told him, I said, by Christmas you're going to have 50,000 followers. By Christmas, he had 120,000. Got bigger than me. He's popping more than me. Because, you know, young boy is the new high dude. So he, rock star, bro. bro, this is how crazy it was. We was shooting a movie called Christmas at the Greyhorse Inn.

This is a hallmark movie. You know, I'm a cameraman. You know, I work with films. We're shooting Christmas at the Greyhors Inn. We is in, this place is like, bro, time travel portal. I ain't, no disrespect. Nothing but white folks, bro. White people, everyone.

I'm somebody. Not like you. Like, you know, I'm talking about real white people. Like, you feel, and I ain't saying you a fake white person, but I'm saying, like, you are cool. I'm doing your podcast. You feel you, like, like, so you can't be too messed up about it. You feel me, me like, you're cool, bro.

You just bought me food and. What about, you mean like, like Colby? No, no, no, no. No, I'm talking about like, hey, six o'clock. By 6.30, you need to be out of here. Right. We're not going to put up with you and your loud music. I'm talking like, them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. People got on overalls and hats. These seared, this for real. They still got, you know, they're pulling up downtown jumping out the back of trucks. You feel what I'm saying? The dog in the truck. You know what that is when they got the shotgun behind them. And the dog in the truck.

Damn, we, we are. We in some, it's in North Carolina, some part of North Carolina, but we're shooting this scene for the parade. it's like three or four, like, Caucasian girls on the back of this truck, right? They seen peanut and lost it. They're like, oh, my God. That's the dude. That dude, young boy, blah, blah, blah. Man, when I said these, people were looking at them so crazy, like, instantly made them shut up.

Like, they instantly, like, looked at them, like, with a little. They got quiet. And I was like, dang, that's crazy. But they took their phones out and started running. towards peanut to take pictures and the dude stopped them. And, you know, I seen the, you know, dude in the overalls over there explaining to them like, you know, talking to them like, you know, so I'm like, oh, they got in trouble for that.

They got in trouble because they weren't talking to us. When we was filming, we was going to restaurants and eating, bro, they, you know, looking at us, checking us out. They went talking to us, you feel what I'm saying? And I, you know, I ain't got no problem with it. It is what it is, you know, where the world. But, you know, shout out to people like you, bro. So that wasn't no this

When I said real white people I mean like You, you know But we didn't accept at you bro You feel what I'm saying You all you are a king folk and stuff bro You are people now

You feel me Like you ain't even got to worry about Bro You had to cook at bro You feel me Like you know So like Yeah bro

Like this dude was Real dear turning into a You know Like he was a rock star bro And um So he left And he called me

he called he was like hey clutch bro I'm ready to you know I'm ready to come back bro I'm ready for you to come get me you know what I'm saying I'm being stubborn and I'm like I'm like hey bro I'm doing something right now bro I'm gonna call you back no one I'm happy that he said he ready to come back because we're fin to do these skis we fin to get some more money it's fin to go up you know I'm happy he said but I'm just acting none shillane like I ain't true like bray I'm gonna call you back bro you know what I'm saying yeah like you don't just get to call me back right right you feel me snap me your fingers and say, come get me. Right, right, right. You know, that's what I'm like. Yeah, bro, whatever. You know, man, I'm on Facebook. Damn, bro. I'm on Facebook.

And a dude coming in and was like, man, you heard about what happened to peanut? I was like, man, man, come on. on me i click on instagram all down my timeline you know what i'm saying like the uh young boy impersonator you know passed away young boy impersonator got you know got got killed he got shot bro i can't even, you know, I can't even explain, like, the pain and the guilt, brother, that I felt. You know what I'm saying? For him being back at home for something so petty, and I lost him, you know, and I'm, I felt responsible for him because I was the male figure in his life.

You know, he was learning so much stuff that I told him when he first came to live with me, he didn't understand. But now we're having these conversations and he's saying, oh, bro, I see why you're stay in the house all the time. Or I see why you don't talk to that dude. Or I see why you don't go here. I see what you don't go out of the clubs. He's getting it.

You know what I'm saying? Because, bro, I protect myself, bro. You feel what I'm saying? I ain't got time to be, you know, letting one of these. Because I feel like this. You can get a new pair of shoes. You can get a white pair of shoes. You're walking everywhere except the mud.

You know, you're going to avoid the mud at all costs. But you will go take yourself and throw yourself up in the club where this person how if that that person how if that he's miserable his girlfriend just broke up with him you'll put yourself in all that chaos and they're haters come on bro they don't like you they don't like especially if you having a little motion so how you treat your shoes better than yourself you feel me when you get a new TV or you get something you lock it up in your house you know you don't open the door you don't leave the window open you're going to make sure people can't get to that so why are you so exposed as a human and you more valuable than anything why are you you putting yourself in these type of predicaments, you feel me? So I used to always preach that to him because he just was like, man, why you don't never go nowhere? You step in the house, bro, I'm working.

I'm on his computer. I'm, you know, I'm trying to get rich. You know what I'm saying? Like, bro, that broke me, bro. Like, that took me to, like, a load that I, and what's crazy. I was losing my mama. You know, like my mama was on her deathbed. You know what I'm saying?

Peanut was dealt with me. You know, helping me do whatever I was doing. You know what I'm saying? He helping me, I'm fixing my mama this kind of drink and this medicine and doing. He dealt with me through the whole thing. You know what I'm saying? He came to the funeral, you know, because he was going to leave then, but he stayed because my mama would sit.

He was like, man, I'm going to help you out. You feel me? And I got people that, you know, I know. I know way longer than him that didn't offer that type of help. You feel what I'm saying? It ain't no problem, but I'm just saying he chose to. So, like, bro, I really love this little dude like my son. You know what I'm saying?

And then I get on the internet, bro, and this was hurtful. This was hurtful. Clutch Williams sacrificed 3-3-4 little peanut. Like, Clutch had him knocked off. He was an illuminated sacrifice. Like, I'm reading all this stuff, bro. And, like, like, I know people. just be putting that up there for fun

but bro that's hurtful bro when it's somebody you love and somebody you care about you know to see that like people accusing you everywhere I look I'm getting messages and all kind of like hate mail and people just writing like yeah you how I sacrifice

somebody I'm still in the trenches why why why if I sacrifice him why I ain't at the Met Galen I ain't in Hollywood and why you know like bro i'm still in the trenches how how is that possible you feel i'm saying what i sacrificed them for you know but like bro that's that's just crazy bro like i ain't even you know i ain't even

on that level for them to be even talking about nothing like that pertaining to me you feel i'm saying so like that that me going me losing him and then having to turn around and go through that and and shout out the uh shout out the um miss charonda uh young boy NBA young boy mama. You know, she came to the funeral. I think a young boy helped pay for the funeral or something, if I'm not mistaken, but they definitely, like, show they support the peanut. You feel what I'm saying? And I just thought that was some of the realest stuff he could have ever did, you know what I'm saying? And people broadcast so much bad stuff about NBA young boy. You never hear nobody tell them stories like that, like what he do in that

regard. You feel I'm saying? But shout out to them for that, you know what I'm saying? And And his mama, bro, she's a beautiful person. I love Ms. Sharonda, bro. Like, Peanut, was so aesthetic to have his woman phone number. I used to fuss at him. Hey, boy, stop calling that woman phone. But Ms. Sharonda would, she'll stay on the phone with him for three hours. If he wanted to talk, he'll just call this woman.

You know, he just geeked up at this NBA young boy, mama. He'll call this woman and just be on the phone with her. he playing young boy music talking to her over the music i'm like bro you got too much going on man that woman ain't got time to be but she was always sweet to him bro she was always nice to him you know what i'm saying shout out to her because that was something big for him that was huge that he even had the chance to associate her you know uh uh a talk to you feel i'm saying but um but but yeah bro so after the uh after the um after the after the whole of internet um you know after the whole internet wave, I kind of stopped doing videos after that, you know, after

peanut pads, it wasn't the same for me, you know, so I didn't, I, like, I lost some motivation. So I started back filming. I started back doing movies, you know, so now I'm taking over Tubi, you know what I'm saying? So I got, uh, I got like four films on, uh, I got like four films on tubi right now. But like, uh, and that's the way, bro, when people sleeping on tuby, man, y'all better, uh, y'all better stop treating tuby like it's some secondary, it's the, you know, it's the, it's the new stuff. Like I was just saying earlier about funny mic and that undertaking, like, that's what Tubby doing, bro, like, Tubby is huge.

Coach Prime, he's smart. He could have went to all these other networks and got, he chose Tubby and put his new show on Tubby, you know what I'm saying? So, like, that's what I'm doing right now, bro. I'm just, I'm writing, I'm writing films and, you know, I'm motivated to do movies, even though I'm back doing the skits, you know what I'm saying? I got a lot of stuff that's coming, too. I got a lot of stuff that's in the making.

And I got a movie that's about to come out right now called Blame Her on Tooby. It's a mob. It's kind of like this mob thing. And I just want to say this. I really don't like to see black people like do the mob movies. Because, you know, like Martin Scorsese is so brilliant with that. You know, like Goodfellas and all. all that, bro, they're, bro, them the best movies ever.

Like, bro, they're the best, can't none top them movies, bro. So, like, I just want, like, you know, I just had to try my hand at it, you know, because I'm such a big fan of that, you know. And I feel like, I feel like the success in the mob movies with people like Morris Gorsese is the fact that, like, people that got tempers in the movie, they're not loud. The bad people are not loud Like, what's my man name That played

Al Pacino No, no, no, not Al Pacino He got the scene I couldn't have seen when he was at the table And asking him, but like, you think I'm funny? So what are you saying? I'm like, this funny guy Joe Pesci.

Joe Pesci, feel what I'm saying? He's not loud. Yeah. He just, you tick him off in his, you know. Or Robert De Niro, same thing. He never yells at all. Right.

He just, you smoke a cigarette, and he just looks at him. You can see it in his face. Like, he's deciding, yeah, I'm going to kill that. That's right. That's the difference between a white person, my movie, and a black person. Because black people, when they get mad in the movie, it's loud, and I'm screaming, and I'm raw. But the cold thing about Morgan Scorsese and, you know, Joe Pesci and him is like, his temper

is kind of like, okay, got you. Yeah, I see you later. He wants you to drop your guard and think everything's okay. Right. That's the difference. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

Come on, bro. Come on, bro. That's the difference. I want to say, I forget which is which, but that's the difference between a, so the, the difference between a, a psychopath. So I think it is a psychopath and a sociopath. A psychopath, so a sociopath gets upset. So if you bump into a sociopath in a bar, he gets into an argument with you and you end up having a fight right then.

You bump into a psychopath in a bar. He says, oh, okay. And he walks outside, he follows you home. He goes and gets a gas can. He burns your whole house down with your whole entire family in it. Do you see him saying? Like he's angry, but he's in control of his emotions.

They'll take his time until he can do complete damage just supposed to get into, which is just a fist fight. That's me. That's me. I'm going to take care of this. Right, right. It's going to be later.

That's me, bro. Because I want to get you in the best way possible. Like, I don't want this to be a lousy job where I kind of, you know, I shoot and I miss or I, no, I want to get you. And that takes time. You know what I'm saying? That takes time, bro. Like, for real, bro. Dudes then, like, played on my top with my old lady before.

You feel me? Or girls in the past that I, it then took me five years. to get my leg back you know I'm five years bro I'm I'm I'm working my moving I'm doing I gotta get you though I got bro I got to have you you know I'm I'm that person I'm patient enough to you know to do that so that's crazy you made you differentiated between that because I never understood that you know what I'm saying but what what what what do you learn stuff like that like I had written a book about I wrote a book about a book about a

not serial killers. I wrote a book about a guy who was a pathological liar and it talks about the antisocial disorder. He talks about the difference between pathological. I'm sorry, between psychopaths and sociopaths. Like they're very similar except for very slight changes in their brain chemistry. And, you know, one of them is like they both have kind of like the same. Right.

They're both angry. They both want to get revenge. One is reactive and one is like, okay. And he just walks away. and you're like yeah everything's fine and three days later you know your house is on fire he kills you and everybody around you know burns your whole house that you're like what the fuck right right yeah that's great question for you real quick what what like what uh what made you want to do this like the podcast or i was writing the i i just learned that I really liked

writing stories and um I just liked writing stories in prison and I enjoyed it and I enjoyed listening to the guys tell their stories. Yeah, because that's a big thing. We call it Jocin in Louisiana. Josen? Jocin. Like a Jose. You feel me?

Like when you're telling stories and you running up, yeah, we just jocent. Like, we're telling stories making the time. You know what I'm saying? Somebody that's called like, bro, what are you doing? Man, just over here, jocin? Everybody telling their story. You feel me? Because that's how I go down.

Somebody say, yeah, bro, I, man, I jacked your boy for $20,000. 20 man we hit a lick for a hundred then somebody else and jumped it try half a million we you know jocin we just running up but yeah that's a big thing in jail but that's that's that's that's what it's based off i remember i was sitting like in the rec yard at like a table and realize like we me and a couple guys have been talking just listening to one guy's story and for an hour and a half and another guy for an hour whatever it was and everybody's kind of you know, talking and, um, and I, I just remember thinking to myself, like, if I could get paid for this. Like, like, this is really what you need to be able to get paid for. You know what I'm

saying? Right. But I started writing all these guys stories, these true crime stories because these guys had amazing stories, but they couldn't write their stories. It's, if, not anything against them, but the truth is, it's very difficult to write your own story because facts. You don't see yourself the way you really are. Like, my image of me is not what other people see. That what I'm trying to tell you, bro. You wanted Joe Rogan. So, so. So, so. So, I I start writing these guys' stories. And it's funny, too, I'd say about 30% of them were not happy with the stories. When they're done, they're like, yo, I don't like the way you said this.

You described me as this. You said it. And it's like, it's like, okay, but it's true. You know what I'm saying? It's like, this one guy, Doug Dodd, I described them as basic. I said he was, he was upper class white trash, you know? Give it to a row. And he was, he was like, me, it's fucked up, bro.

What do you think white trash is? And he's like, and he's like, well, you know, like people that live in trailer parks, I go, okay, well, well, no, anyway, I said, or a trailer. I said, not trailer park. You're saying one, is there a specific? And I was like, this place right here. I said, when you, this told me about this fight, I go, where was that? He's like, was in a double wide trailer, right? You were living in a double wide trailer. Yeah, yeah, but my mom lived in a trouble. I was, yeah, well, you were fucking kid. You lived with your mother. What about here? What was this, that was a single wide trailer? What about this? single wide trailer what about this what about where your buddy used to live oh that was a trailer park what about when your buddies used to have a big party he can't see it he can't see and then i'm sitting there listen bro your mother who was a waitress caught your father who was um who was a who was a manager of a like a fucking shitty diner fucking one of his waitresses in the family camero in the driveway of the double wide bro i said you're i'm sorry you're white trash I mean, I'm not trying to, I'm there's nothing wrong with that.

It's not your fault. You're white trash. Like, it's not your fault. You were born into it. Right. Right. Right. Right.

Right. You were born into it. Right. You're going to break out of it. Right. But you didn't. At this time, you're deep in it. Yeah.

Deep in it. Like you had, you were just shy of a mullet. That's it. Joe Dirt. But there's lots of guys that. And listen, he lives, he lived in like this little fucking town. Like, it wasn't even Newport Ritchie. It was like outside of Newport.

Oh, Hudson, Florida, which is, you know, it's, it's all fucking trailer parks. I mean, it's strip clubs, pawn shops, trailer parks. So anyway, he, but yeah, he was up like there. Everybody, lots of guys that I did stories about, they were upset. They just were, and I was, but then what, here's what would happen. Just like a lot of our, like our thumbnails and titles and stuff, people get upset when they first come out. Yo, bro, you said this and this and this. Well, yeah.

you were you were a disbarred attorney yeah but i don't like that you put it in a title okay right and if it was your choice that might mean something if it's your podcast like you call whatever you want we're trying to get people to click on the video right so lots of people get upset but here's what happens is that a week later they come back and they go yo bro so many people have reached out to me and you know they love my fucking story and they love this and they love that and by the way I'm sorry that I fucking texted you and told you that that was fucked up and that was wrong I'm sorry about that

you did the right thing I thought about it same thing with the stories guys would take the stories I'm upset I don't like it I don't like that you fucking said we were a part of the cartel you you went into Mexico and met with the cartel I didn't say you were part of the cartel saying you were working

you made it sound like we were we were you said we were a link in the chain you were you were importing from the cartel talking with cartel shipping with the cartel you were caught the indictment

talks about the cartel that you were working with the cartel like this isn't me this is you as attorney like I get yeah but it makes it sound like you know we were dangerous about it's not true

like right so the point is is that they would get upset but then they read then their buddies start reading the story and next thing you know they're like

now you got somebody that agree they see them the same way as you painted them in the story and they're like you're right it's I I see it now

and you know nobody wants to hear that Nobody, it's like when people say, you know, oh, you're, the first time I read an article about myself that said, I called me a con man. Oh, I'd never been so fucking offended in my life. You don't know me. Right. I'm not a con man.

And then you start, you read the whole article. Now I look back and I'm like, yeah, okay, okay. I did manipulate that person. I did lie that person. I did, before you know it's a con man. You're a con man. I just had that talk with my daughter on the way over. I was telling her the same thing.

Like, I was telling her, like, to be accepting of, of, like, the charges that people put on you most times, because it's true. You feel what I'm saying? Before you find a way to try to disconnect yourself from it, try to see if the shoe fit first. Yeah. You know, you got to try it on first to see. You're better off leaning into it, apologizing for it than trying to deny it. Right. By denying it, now, guess what?

You're a con man and you're a liar. Right. You see what I'm saying? Or you're a thief and you're lying. At least if you said, damn, you got me, I stole that, I fucked up. I don't know why I stole it. I stole it because I thought you would notice it. I needed the, you know, or maybe I didn't even need the fucking money.

Right. But it was available. I didn't think you'd notice it. I figured, hey, I'm about to make a come up for 200 bucks and I'm going to steal it. Like, like, I'm an asshole. Even with, even with like me getting famous, the way that I got famous with the Kevin Gates stuff. And you know, people's like, oh, man, you ride this man, waver, you, you own it.

Bro. Yes. I'm a fan Yeah I'm a fan And you ain't gonna say that to Will Smith When he played Muhammad Ali And you ain't gonna say that to Jamie Fox

When he played Ray You feel what I'm saying They just doing it on the film And I'm just doing it in In a different type of film It's videos But bro, I'm a Kevin Gates fan Whatever you want to call me

Because you know people on TikTok Be calling me Kevin Fence You know what I'm saying Or they be calling me Kevin Waite You know because he is shape now You know what I'm still You know I'm still big But, bro, I don't, man, yes.

You're at the beginning of your fitness journey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Facts, bro. Like, for real. I love that. For real. I'm at the beginning. But I just did a, I just did, I'm in like the last two weeks of my 90-day push-up challenge.

You know what I'm saying? But the push-ups didn't work in the areas I thought that, you know, I thought it was going to work. You know, my shoulders, my arms, the chest a little bit. But, you know, I'm still, you know, built like an egg. But I got a, you know, I'm fin of, now I'm going to do a 90-day. sit-up challenge, you know, sit-ups for 90 days and see what that do for me. But yeah, bro, I'm big on accountability, bro. That's the biggest thing.

Like, that's the biggest thing with me, accountability, bro. Like, that's my, that's what I'm talking about all day. You feel me? I just feel like that's the best thing for growth, for success, for communication, for everything, you feel me? Nobody wants to take accountability. Yeah, even with church people. Like, even with church people, bro, you didn't talk them to.

tongues spit and cried and flipped over tables and did all this and but when it's time to take your lick you can't do it that's what god is concerned about more than anything can you be responsible for your actions forget all the stuff forget all that other stuff like that don't even matter who cares if you went to church 90 times this year but somebody tell you about something you get mad you missed a spot no i didn't you know what i'm saying and you got out of his pride and you got out. You feel what I'm saying? So, so I'm like, you know, and you said you wrote a book too, and I got a, me and my daughter got a children's book. It's called Kennedy and the Dollar. And it was number 14 on the bestseller list. And it went, it was number one in the genre

for children's books on Amazon. You know, they did a whole little, the news hit me up. I didn't even know. The news station in my city. He was like, hey, did you know your daughter's book is number one on Amazon and number 14 on the best sign like for real it was like yeah so they did a story you know a story with us on the news and what's crazy is we wrote the book you know i gave a speech like hey look it's our first book might not do nothing it might not you know it's our first book so don't it might not have no success and boom our first book did great did amazing you know what i'm saying and we got another one that's going to come out called uh the ladybug and the blue bear and we both artists like we draw you know i do pay

paintings and I do, uh, I'm working on a wall right now, actually. And, uh, a wall. Yeah, a wall. Me and my, me and my homie, uh, macho loat, he a rapper, uh, money making macho. He got a, uh, we got a building that we bought. And we just filling the walls with paintings of celebrities. We both artists. So we just sticking as many celebrities in there, you know, as possible.

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