Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - LAPD MOST WANTED MAN MEETS JOCKO, WATSON, & GOES ON THE RUN!

Episode Date: June 26, 2025

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Like, I knew my clock was ticking in. It was not very long ago. You still got to go to prison. It gets better. I never saw my parents argue or fight or anything like that. It was Christmas Eve. I was seven and like sitting there jumping on the bed, having a good time in my room. And parents come, knock on the door.

They come in and tell me to sit down and tell me that they're getting in divorce. That was initially when I first started getting into trouble. I think I just kind of used it as an excuse. They're like, oh, it's okay. You know, he's going through a divorce. You know what I mean? And I was like, oh, okay, that's like my pass right there. And actually shortly after that,

It was a private school there on San Vicente Boulevard in Santa Monica. I think it was called Carl Thorpe School. And there was a few celebrity kids that were going there at the time. Kurt Russell and Goldie Hans kids were going there. And it was during class and I was in the bathroom and I was with a girl in the bathroom. And the assistant principal came into the bathroom. And since the kid was a celebrity's kid, I'm not going to mention who she was. but uh they were like okay you know you go back to your class and i'm like okay and then she tells me

she's like hey you little shit she's like uh she's like get out of here and uh you know you're going up to my office and so i'm like man this lady's this old lady just cussed me out man and so i walk out of the bathroom and uh there's a basketball that was like off by some drain and i'm like so i walk over i pick up this basketball and i just like beeline it at this the assistant principal she's like one of those typical old ladies with like the like long gray like bell haircut or whatever right and uh so i beeline this basketball at this old lady's head and it uh just like ricochets off her head and uh so i was i was asked to leave that school that year so that was the first time i got kicked out of a school i think they frown on you assaulting the staff

in middle school yeah yeah i guess a protest wasn't going on or something like that but uh so that was the first school i got kicked out it was a private school school, Carl Thorpe, went to another private school after that. And same thing happened again. They actually asked my brother not to come back to that same school as well. He had some things going on. He got in trouble in class and stuff like that. So they just took the two of us and were like, okay, you know, you guys can't come back next year. So we went to the next private school. Well, where's your dad? He's around, right? He was around. He would take us to, initially when they first separated, he wasn't around too much. He was around too.

much um but after like a year or so he would start taking us to school a few days a week um he would still take us to uh the park to throw baseball for practice for baseball he would always still show up at all of my games uh initially within the first like i mentioned year or so uh it wasn't around too much so i think this is kind of what when i first started getting into trouble and there wasn't really a lack of discipline taking place um really just kind of got me going on the wrong path next private next private school went there there was a couple of times where these kids were picking all my brothers so we beat up some kids um i remember then being in a math class and i was actually i got in a math tutor because i was a little behind in math and so i'm doing pretty good and they gave

us a little test it was like a speed test whoever can finish first you know wins and so i remember completing the test quickly i was one of the first few people done take the test up to the teacher and her name was miss wadsworth man and um take the test up to her she goes through it and she since i'd already had a little bit of reputation was like oh this isn't like you you cheated or something like that right and i and i got pissed off man i was like you know i've been putting in my work and doing better and so i i end up cussing the teacher out i think i called her a fucking bitch or something like that and so um was kicked out of that school as well they had a red chair it was at calvary christiansen school it was at the

bottom of the highlands in the palisades and uh they had this wooden red chair that i'd have to sit in i'd be sitting in that thing like all the time but uh so got kicked out of that school as well and then uh that was the end of the private schools uh after that ended up going to the first public school you've gone through all the private schools went through burns burn through those pretty quickly um next up on the list was a marquez elementary that was fifth grade and uh was a public school i do recall my father being there at like orientation day and um but sure enough i was actually in the boy scouts and so there were some kids in my troop that actually went to this elementary school and so these were actually the kids that i like first started smoking with um so i was like 10 years

old and we're at marquez i remember some of us having like cigarettes and then one of my buddies had brought uh some little black black cat fireworks to school and so I remember one day we're lighting these little fireworks and throwing them at some kids end up almost getting kicked out of school for that they actually let me stay for the remainder of that year but it was at that point in time I was hanging out with my my friends the guys I wanted to be cool with and just started drinking drinking smoking trees and smoking cigarettes was pretty much what it started with I was like 10 years old basically it all started they all had like older siblings that's where it all stemmed from every we got all our stuff from them and uh in

the palisades uh it was pretty uh you know affluential town a lot of kids had money there so the older siblings that were about like 16 17 18 years old a few of these kids started overdosing on black and uh you know this was like pre uh fentany fentany i don't know what else you use for that i think we used what did we say finney yeah yeah yeah excuse me so so the older siblings back in the day they were using black and so some of these kids were overdosing on black uh this was all pre fennie days um so i'd stayed away from the black and i stayed away from the from the crystal i just knew that there was just a lot of bad stuff happening with that so but i'd blown through everything else pretty quickly um by the time i was 13 had gone through like

all pharmaceuticals um had gone through uh stuff where you see a bunch of colors you know loosening I don't know like acid or yeah I've gone through yeah a bunch of acid you know mushrooms stuff like that um so burned through all that it was pretty heavy though um guys uh girls that I would be dating they had like older brothers that were selling a bunch of stuff and so I was able to get a bunch of bunch of things from them and so started selling selling drugs at a pretty early age about like 13 and this is what just to pay from pay for drugs are just to be cool just to be cool to supply my own habit and uh you know just be a cool guy that's all taking place still playing sports though i was still kind of like a functioning addict

at early age uh which wasn't necessarily a good thing i guess um did well in sports uh baseball i made like city all-star team um started playing football uh things were going okay i started skateboarding I was big into skateboarding, but, so it was just me, my brother, my mom for quite a few years, getting into, like, about 13, then she started dating a few guys. Guy that turns out to be her husband today, I remember when they first started dating, he was a professor at UCLA, and he would come over. He would take us to some UCLA sporting events, some basketball games, stuff like that. But initially, when they first started dating, I really didn't like this guy, for whatever reason it was.

was say if my father would come by and he'd be at the house. And if he was coming over, he'd like wait down the street. He wouldn't have the, uh, wouldn't have the balls to come and meet and be like, hey, you know, introduce himself or nothing, anything like that. He would always just stay a couple blocks away. So I don't know. I didn't really have any respect for that. I felt like, you know, as a man, like, it's known that you guys are dating. Like, why don't you come up and like, and meet this dude, you know? Right. Uh, so I was initially standoff. of him and of course any anybody else she dated um there was this one occasion when he came over to the house who was in the evening time they went out they went through the house and went to the backyard

and the backyard of the house had a big like a hillside behind it and on the hillside there was um there was like a wooden jacuzzi and there was like a gazebo stuff like that and so they went walking through the backyard they went up uh they were up by the jacuzzi and uh me and my brother had our um had our like pellet rifle guns and so i remember like got my brother and we got our rifles and we went out on the grass towards the house and like got down in the prone position and uh ended up letting one off and hitting this dude upside his head and uh and so and so the best part he had is a dude he uh drill him in his head and he like falls over backwards into this like you remember those like old wooden jacuzzi yeah

Yeah. Okay. So it was one of those. And so he goes like it was out of, you know, it was above the porch. And so he like goes up and over and like head over heels, you know, into the jacuzzi. And after this, I like learned come to find out the dude doesn't know how to swim. But he was in the Navy reserves. So I'm like, how does that work? How are you in the Navy on how to swim? Anyways, he's in the in the in the jacuzzi, like fighting for his life and in a four foot deep jacuzzi. And, uh, my mom has to like reach in and like help get him out of the jacuzzi and um he ends up they come out and he literally has to do like the walk of shame like down the walkway back into the house and me and my brother are just like on the ground rolling around laughing at this dude and he realizes you guys shot him right oh yeah oh yeah i was going to say if it came from nowhere like i don't know what happened it was the dude on the grassy knoll man right so just typical stuff like that being kids um but you're saying he's stuck around like he stuck around and he's buried to your mom now yeah oh yeah they ended up yeah there's a lot of history with that um i guess like apparently so my mom

she she moved out from the south um she was real southern bell uh 21 she moved might have been 20 she moved from uh Louisiana to California and so uh in Los Angeles back then her and some of her girlfriends uh back then you know it was a little more classy things were a little different they used to go to the playboy mansion right and so back then it was a little bit classier you know she would go on like a movie night or a dinner night stuff like that so um interesting enough like when she was going there my her and my dad were dating but uh right around that time uh Hugh Heftner had actually asked my mom to be uh the 25th anniversary centerfold and uh and she's I guess so she's she's thought about it and uh she actually she told him no she was like she was like oh

i plan to have kids pretty soon and like i don't want my kids to be seeing that or anything like that right so i was like you know what mom that's pretty gangster yeah i'm like you know how many times that dude's heard no in his life like i don't think very many you know so that was pretty sweet shout out to mom um so right around that time um my mom and my dad were dating uh so they were dating they got together for a while and so she was working at a uh she was working at an orthodontist office and it was this orthodontist birthday and they had her jump out of a out of a birthday cake for him so she jumped out and I guess that's when that was the first time my mom's husband had seen my mom or her future husband his name's Spiro I'll go ahead and name drop him

so the first time Spiro had seen my mom and so she got out of the cake whatever and my dad and my mom are dancing and I guess Spiro had the audacity to come up and ask my mom for a dance and which was like my dad was a badass dude man or still is a badass dude he um so back then in the day he was big in kempo karate um ed Parker who brought kempo karate to the united states was like that's when like Elvis was getting into like karate and so Elvis was teamed up with Ed Parker um my dad actually sparred with Elvis a bunch of times there's pictures with my dad and Elvis uh they were pretty close and um So my dad is, he had fought, like, state championships, won state championships.

And, you know, he's a Sicilian guy. So, you know, it's like, so Spiro comes up and asks my dad if he can, or doesn't even ask, yeah, I think he asked my dad to dance with my mom. And so I think my dad, like, I don't know, allegedly, I don't know exactly what happened, but something happened. And he kind of said a few, talk some shit to Spiro and, like, kind of punked him in front of all this room full of people. And so I guess it kind of, you know, worked on his ego a little bit.

So I guess that, you know, there's more to come on that. But that was initially when they first saw each other. And so fast forward back to when we were kids, they started dating a little bit. And everything seemed to be going okay. Like I mentioned, he was taking us to some UCLA basketball games. He was in sports medicine. He used to make the mouthguards for a lot of the sports teams. so initially after I shot him he stuck around so he got a little bit of respect and he started

taking us to those sporting events he actually did take us to Kansas City he was making the mouthguards for the Kansas City Chiefs back then so took us to Kansas City went to Arrowhead Stadium we're in the locker room at Joe Montana a bunch of guys was around that era when that was going on which was pretty cool at times and I appreciated that so at this point it was like okay you know you're kind of getting a past dude like you're you're all right right around that time actually is when he asked my uh mother to marry him and my mother asked me she said well she's like what what's up what do you think i was like well i was like i don't i don't know i was like you know if this is the right question to ask today but i asked her i was like hey well does he

make you happy and she was like yeah i'm like okay and uh asked her i was like is this something you want to do and she was like yeah i was like okay then i support it let's do it how old were you uh i think i think at that point in time i was only 13 so this had happened you know at that point i was 13 because the next events that come up i know i was 14 so i was 13 at this time um so gave her the green light and i was like okay what's up so when are you when you getting married what's going on he's like okay well i think we're going to go to greece and get married i was like okay cool man we're going to grease what's up and she was like well i guess apparently we're just going you and your brother angelo are going to stay here that's that's kind of a red flag man like you know

so that was the first red flag i should have really picked up on what so they got married there they got married here that was their honeymoon that they got married there oh okay got married there um so no family came you know my mother's parents wanted to go they did they weren't weren't they didn't go or weren't allowed to go. Uh, so it was just them to, which was really kind of odd. You know what I mean? It's kind of disrespectful for you to not have the bride's parents come if they want to come, stuff like that. So it just, the whole thing just didn't really seem right in my opinion. Uh, they got married and, uh, at that point in time, he was getting ready to retire. And so they was, he was going to go from Los Angeles down to Coronado. And so,

I tried to go into Coronado for a couple of weeks and it just was not really the right area for me. It was a, it's kind of a retirement community. Back then, it was a lot more strict. Like, I was a kid on a skateboard and that was like really not welcomed anywhere. I'd get in trouble everywhere I was skateboarding and just wasn't the right place for me. I was like, these people are freaking stuck up. It's a bunch of rich people. I don't like it.

So I'd asked if I could move in with my dad and stay in Los Angeles. So they actually, I didn't know all this, but apparently they went to court and a whole bunch of other things. And it was said that I could stay with my dad because my brother was going to go with my mom, whatever that was about. So I moved in with my dad and things just progressively continued to get more and more out of hand. At that point of time, I was hanging out with friends. I'd take off on the weekend. I'd be gone all weekend. And it would just be like a huge party fest.

I wasn't getting into much trouble. It was starting to party pretty hard, though. This was like 14. By the time I was 17, those two years, I was still going to school. Within those two years, actually, I mentioned I was in the Boy Scouts. So I think I'm around like 15 or something like that

is when I graduated. I got my Eagle Scout, which is actually a pretty rare feat. It's not a lot of percentage of guys actually get their Eagle Scout with all the certifications and stuff that I got. if I had actually gone into service gone in the military or any other like first responder organization you're automatically promoted a few ranks just due to all the search that you have

like life saving all sorts of stuff so I got my Eagle Scout again was still with a group of buddies that I used to just get in a lot of trouble with right around that time and we were doing silly stuff I mean it's not the typical Boy Scouts like we're in there we're always smoking trees. We went on a trip to Hawaii. We were in Maui. We'd go cliff diving and we'd get a, we'd get some fungi from some of the local people there. So we're taking a bunch of fungi and like going cliff jumping, all sorts of stuff. We would go to Catalina Island there. Catalina Island, since it was a wealthier troop that I was with with the, with the Boy Scouts in the Pacific Palisades, our troop actually had access to a bunch of like ski boats. And, and, and, and, you know,

And so, which was a rare thing. So when we go to Catalina Island, you know, we'd have ski boats. We were like, you know, ski bobb and all that stuff. And I remember one of the times we were, it was on, it was on the side of like Twin Falls. And Twin Falls is like one of the main harbors for Catalina Island. And so not only were there like Boy Scout camps, but there was a bunch of like Girl Scout camps, stuff like that. So we would go to Twin Harbors during the day. I remember us meeting a bunch of girls there, but we were with one of the scout

scout leaders there. So we just kind of like played it on the quiet side. And so we ended up going back to camp, me and a bunch of my buddies were talking. We'd always sneak off, go smoke some trees. And we're like, hey, like, let's go. Let's go a couple of the scout leaders. These dudes were, they would snore super loud. Like they were knocked out at night.

So we were like, hey, you know, we can probably go creep on some of these boat keys and go take one of the boats out at night and go meet these chicks uh so that of course happened got some of the boat keys went took the ski boat out you know we're smoking and drinking on the on the on the speed boat and uh when met some girls at the girl scout camp typical stuff as kids i don't know but um good times man had a lot of good times graduated the boy scouts uh though at this point of time then i'm starting to get into like later years in high school then in the later years in high school uh things were starting to get pretty pretty like active in la um you know they had already had the riots back then uh in 92 but so this is like 96 97 um uh was at palisades high

school and uh remember the first kind of thing that was kind of hectic was um i wasn't at school i was actually i was ditching school at that point in time or off smoking whatever and uh there was there was a few gangs at my high school it was a uh integrated high school so uh like 80% of the kids were bust in from inner city Los Angeles so from all over from Compton Englewood all over uh so there was a like I mentioned a few gangs at our high school there was this one kid that went to our school he was from some notorious Crip gang and there were some uh bloods at my school they were from I think they were from bounty hunters and they had gotten into it.

And so one day at school, like I mentioned, I was gone. These guys pulled up, pulled up in a car and pulled a drive-by at the front of my school. And hit, actually hit the one Crip kid, hit him one time. Our football coach got shot in the leg. And they ended up speeding off, got in a high-speed pursuit. It was all over the news. And they ended up catching the guys. that was kind of like the first first kind of incident with any kind of gang stuff that was going on around that same point in time though I was hanging out one of my buddies that I grew up with from the time I was in sixth grade stayed you know close to like mid city area which is which is like not far from the rampart district back rampart district okay the movie training day yeah yeah okay so that's like about the rampart district okay there were some notorious cops that

were corrupt cops that were in the rampart district they were stealing a bunch of drugs from the evidence room selling it they were like a straight gang right like back then um within whether it was in corrections there were like gangs between deputies uh it was just like that in the in the police division and so the cops that were in the neighborhood in my buddy's neighborhood that i was growing up with uh were like another gang um literally like if you pulled up we're at the stoplight and we pulled up and they pulled up and you just like looked over to look at him to be like what the fuck you're looking at and like just yeah yeah they pull you out the car do all sorts of wild shit uh so some of my buddies from that neighborhood since

he was my best friend uh that i grew up with i was hanging out with him and hanging out in that neighborhood quite a bit for the previous few years and so a lot of our buddies we were all just from like a crew back then back then it was like like tagging crews we're going and tagging all over the city uh we'd actually gotten to be pretty big uh we were from like downtown l a all the way to the beach we were up everywhere like all over the place and which was kind of uncommon at that point in time we'd gotten pretty big and so things were divided back then like gangs wouldn't interact with cruise just because it was kind of like two different it was like the major leagues versus the minor leagues but i guess we had gotten so big that a lot of gangs uh started to beef with us and so

uh we were having getting into it with all sorts of gangs uh we were like younger teenagers these guys were a little bit older and uh there's one incident uh we're at the santa monica pier and uh ran into some guys seeing some guys that were from this gang And they ran up while we were in our car. We're actually literally on the Santa Monica Pier. And it's middle of the daytime. There's people everywhere. And so these guys come up and start trying to, like, you know, punch the car and stuff like that.

So my buddy that's driving just literally, like, runs over these two guys in front of us and then, like, throws it in reverse and backs up over these guys. And we went back and forth over these dudes a few times. And then you're in the car? Yeah. how do they fare uh i don't know we didn't let i mean it was it was madness people were everywhere like oh my god what's going on you know and uh so we end up just getting out of there but uh things so things started to progress like that was an entry thing uh we're going to house parties uh in i was at a house party in venice and i had a few of my buddies from the neighborhood come over

to the house party and uh sure enough some guys from one of the local gangs showed up and uh we're in the backyard and so we weren't you know we had nobody had any weapons really or anything we're still kind of young and so these guys show up but then we just so it was just like literally like a beer bottle breaking contest and like vodka bottle breaking contest over each other's heads you know and uh guys jumping through some guy jumped through like the living room window of this house it was my it was a girl that was a friend of mine it was her mom's house and uh so like that big windows broke there's blood all over the whole backyard they trampled the back fence down uh that's actually where i got hit on the side of my head right here it's split my face open um and these these were like

regular occurrences these were happening all the time um this is all related to the the public school you were going to yeah i would say so started going to public schools yeah and so yeah uh palisades high school is a public school as well uh things just started progressing uh at that point in time, we're getting into our later teenage years. I was about 17. My father ends up telling me at that point in time, they're making me go to therapy and stuff. And they were like, okay, if you don't straighten out, you're going to be kicked out of here on your birthday. And so it was about like six months to my birthday. And I just knew I was like, you know what, this isn't going anywhere. I don't see this happening. So I had an opportunity to move out of the house.

Where? A girlfriend that I was dating. She lived in Topanga Canyon. Tepanga Canyon is like, home of like the hippie kids like all the hippies from la moved up out of the city and it's a panga canyon and so all their all those kids are about my age you know all the all the adults were like hippie ex-hippies and stuff like mine so it was a big like drug air drug neighborhood it's up in the mountains it's close to malibu it's like up in the hills and um it's like the movie uh valley was it valley girl you didn't ever see this movie you ever see you remember the movie valley girl you don't remember valley girl no Nicholas Cage was in it.

It was like his first movie, Valley Girl, and they were, and her parents were hippies. Okay. And they lived in the valley, wherever the valley is. I don't know where the valley is. Yeah, it's funny. The valley is just on the other side. So Topanga Canyon separates from the coast to the valley. See?

Yeah. Not a little bit. But, yeah, it was crazy in Topanga. You know, everybody's doing a bunch of drugs, all sorts of stuff. Parents were okay with it. they were doing back then in like fox news they had this like fox undercover thing i don't like i guess it was they would do so we're at a bunch of these parties and me and a bunch of my buddies uh we're selling drugs and you know we would bring um uh tanks nitrous tanks

and you say that or whatever yeah we'd bring those tanks would be selling balloons to kids and all that and so remember there's just one kid uh with a video camera we didn't recognize them in So like I didn't I didn't like it first off. I'm like, I don't like this guy. But over the next few weekends, we keep seeing this guy. And I'm like, okay, I guess it's all right. It's not a big deal. But he's got a video camera. Yeah, he's got a video camera, which didn't happen very often back then. And so then like a couple months later, they were doing these like Fox undercover things on on the news every once in a while. They'd come out where there was some undercover thing that was going on. And so I remember I'm sitting there watching TV and this Fox undercover thing comes on. And it's like kids in an upscale. neighborhood when parents are out of town and it starts showing shows like me shows a bunch of my buddies it shows us like selling uh mdma or whatever you want to call that pills and stuff right and um selling balloons and all sorts of stuff it like blurs out some of our faces it doesn't blur out other people's faces uh well how old were you uh it was maybe like 15 16 something like that

and uh there was one kid who's a friend of mine he lived in the the palisades and he's like sitting there and uh they i think they blur out his face but so the kid is actually watching this with his grandparents he lives at his grandparents house and this comes on and they're like uh they're like that kind of looks like you jimmy and he's like that's not me that's not me and then all of a sudden their phone starts ringing off the hook he like picks it up they're like dude you're on the news dude you're so he got his cover got blown but yeah so it was just all sorts of madness was happening um at that point in time we're getting a little bit older and so it was like you know kids graduated like my buddies that were in the inner city like by that rampart

district uh graduated to start going from being in like a crew a little tagging crew to then being from a gang and uh gangs in that neighborhood were some pretty big time gangs like they're gangs that are still known like they're all over the country and stuff like that so a few of my buddies getting from the neighborhood and then at that point in time like they're they're putting in work um guys are guys are catching bodies guys are disappearing guys are upper middle class kids that are now oh no no no no no yeah this was this was me by myself like i one of my buddy the buddy that i was my best friend from sixth grade he lived in in the he lived in like mid city he lived in the neighborhood so i would hang out with him and i'd be like one of the one of the one of the only

white guys in the neighborhood is predominantly black and Hispanic neighborhood. And so these are guys that you know in that group that are now joining gangs that are now, you know, putting in work. Right. Yeah, they were the guys that I was that that I was in this crew with our little tagging crew. I was a bunch of Hispanic kids and graduated to serious to the big leagues. Yeah, absolutely man. Yeah, started getting real guys were getting guys were getting locked up for you know 25 years um had one buddy uh who really just kind of got pretty crazy with it he uh used to like to smoke uh embalming fluid and um and he liked he uh he would like to go go shoot people like that's what he like to do and so he'd be like hey let's do this and be like no man

like let's go hang out with some girls man right and he's like no no no no no like let's go do this. It's like, nah, I'm good, man. And so it started getting crazy. I mean, he was shooting so many people around the neighborhood that a lot of the, a lot of the blacks that were in that neighborhood started moving out of the neighborhood. It was getting that bad. It was going around to different parts of the city shooting guys. I mean, there was all, everything was special circumstances. Like a lot of these, you know, they were like overkill. like when murders are special circumstances it's because they can be overkill stuff like that and so a lot of these bodies we're having like 20 bullets in the body like eight bullets in the head and these

aren't people that these are just people he randomly is coming across or no he'd go to like they'd be at parties and there'd be other neighborhood gang members gang members from rival neighborhoods right yeah so they're gang members shooting other gang members okay yeah not random people um and it got he was get pretty wild i mean uh this buddy of mine he ended up uh being wanted for like over 35 homicides um ended up getting caught it was all over the news they called him like a hunter of human beings yeah it was it was pretty and how old are you uh at that point in time about like 18 getting close i was about almost almost 20 right around that time that was before he ended up getting in trouble but while this stuff was taking place i was like i was like i was like

man this is this is nuts man like i got to get out of here and so the girlfriend that i was dating she wanted to move to arizona and i was like that sounds like a great idea so uh decided to go to arizona to tucson just to kind of get away and and try and go to i graduated high school i got my diploma right um but i wanted to go there try and go to college so moved out to tucson and uh at that point uh was still brought a bunch of about a bunch of trees with me so i went out there we had a few buddies that were from from uh los angeles that had moved out there and so we had a few guys set up there but i went there i was still selling trees trying to go to school wasn't really going to school uh was working and uh was just a vicious cycle then fell into the same thing you know it's just like

i just did the geographical change i didn't i didn't change any of my bad habits so i was there selling drugs uh partying spinning my wheels uh about a year or two goes by and And my girlfriend then at that point in time was like, you know what, I'm going to move back to California. She's like, I'm over it here. And I was like, okay, well, I guess you're not inviting me. So I guess I'm staying. So stayed right around that time is actually, I bought a car from a buddy of mine and his dad owned a car lot. And so just bought the car off of him, didn't have insurance on the car.

So I'm driving the car just to and from work. I've had the car, and I'm not taking it out on the weekends. I'm like, I don't want to, you know, jeopardize it. So about like three weeks into it, I'm like, there's a, there's a big, like, party at some college housing, apartment housing complex. So I'm like, we're going, man. So I get a few of my buddies, brought my dog. I had just gotten a pit bull that was a, he was already a little bit older. He was like part of a rescue place.

So I got him, go up to this house party. And right around that time, you know, I was heavily influenced by music, you know, and it was a thing in music these days about like, I can drink a whole Hennessy fifth. I think it was an exhibit song. And so I'm like, okay, I'm going to drink a whole fifth of Hennessy. And so go to this house party, drink a whole fifth of Hennessy, didn't let anybody else touch it, drank the whole thing. And I remember I had my dog with me.

And the guy that had the party was like giving me shit about my dog because he had like this little lap dog and didn't like the fact. My dog was by my side the entire time. I'm like, this fucking guy, whatever. or somewhere like going to his apartment like open up his freezer I take some of his alcohol I like drink some of his alcohol I throw it back in the freezer slam the door and um at that point in time I'm like all right man let's get out of here let's leave uh so later on I end up finding out this one of my buddies that took my keys from me didn't know it but apparently I had my keys at that point in time I'm like all right so let's leave so I get all my buddies we get in the car and we're pulling off and a couple days prior I'd gotten a flat tire so there was a spare tire on one of the i think it was a back wheel and uh remember we get in the car and i started playing uh that's when uh that song move bitch get out the way right little ludicrous song it just come out so remember i just put some like speakers in the car had hooked up the sound

system and so we get in the car i'm like bumping this song and so of course i start speeding right and um we get out of this college complex and then there's uh the community college across the street so there's like a long straightaway with two green lights and so we start going and i remember i catch the first green light and so by this time i'm getting up there in speed so now i'm doing like it's like i'm doing like 110 120 and a little toyota can't a Toyota corolla little Toyota carola with a with a spare tire on the back and uh i remember i'm in there and my buddy started like they're talking to me from the back seat and i'm like and literally just as i say like i turn around to say like shut the fuck up man i'm driving just

Just as I say that, I drift like about a foot to the left. And I end up hitting a pedestrian curb island, like a little, you know, curb island. And boom, whole floorboard comes up even with the center council. We spin. I think we took out a pole. Some of us, like, get out of the car. My one buddy gets out the car, runs and go stashes, like a couple ounces of powder. Like, I get out of the car and I stand up and I literally like collapse.

I was like, man, what the fuck? Like, I've broken my ankles numerous times, Stakes his skateboard for years. And so, like, I know how to, like, I felt a broken ankle before. So I try to stand up again. I, like, knew my left foot was pretty bad. But my right foot, I literally couldn't put any weight on it. Like, something was really wrong with it.

Regardless, I tell everybody like, hey, get the fuck back in the car, man. I'm going to start the car. And so they go and they get in the car. I remember trying to start the car. Of course, it's dead. Nothing works. I remember seeing the car like a few weeks later. I was like, I can't believe I told people to get back in the car.

The thing was fucking wrecked. and so in the car trying to start it doesn't start next thing you know cops pull up and i guess i was so pissed off about the car i was like man i just bought this car there's no fucking insurance i was so pissed uh apparently they didn't like breathalized me or anything they didn't met i mean i know i reek like alcohol but sure enough next thing you know i'm in the hospital and um uh turns out i ended up like shattering my right foot uh would later end up need like needing reconstructive surgery, which still bothers me to this day. I walk with a limp.

It's pain in the ass. Don't get in trouble for the car. Wake up the next day. Everything's all messed up. I finally get out of the hospital about a week later. I'm at my house smoking on the couch and I hear a knock on the door. And I hear Anthony and my neighbor's name was Anthony. So I think it's my neighbor, you know, knocking on my door, right?

And so I'm like, yeah, come on in. So they open the door and it's a couple of sheriffs. And they come walking in. I'm like, oh, shit. I'm like, all right, well, come on in, man. And so they come walking in. And they kind of like started looking around. I got like a four foot.

I got like a four foot or water pipe, you want to call it or whatever laid up against the couch. I got like a smaller one on the table. And there's like a big joint burning on the ashtray. And I'm just like, and they're like, yeah. They were like, you were here. You have a dog. And I was like, yeah.

And they're like, well, they were like, we're here to arrest you for animal cruelty. I'm like, what? They're like, yeah, we just got your dog. Your dog was brought in. Apparently, he was involved in a car accident like two weeks ago. And I was like, yeah, I was like, I was like, as you can see, I was like, I was in the hospital. I was like, I just got out of the hospital. I had the paperwork right there.

I was like, I just got out of the hospital, you know, the dog hurt? So I guess apparently he had his jaw. I don't know. He had something wrong with his jaw. I don't know exactly what it was. But so I had gotten out of the hospital. and didn't know where my dog was. So I'm calling around trying to find my dog.

It takes me about a day to find my dog. So he's at one of the kennels in the city. So find out where he's at. And then I have my buddy Paul. My buddy Paul goes and picks up my dog from the from the kennel place and takes the dog to the vet. This was one day. I'm out of the hospital. Picks up the dog.

See, there's something wrong with his jaw. It takes him to the vet. And so we're like, okay, cool. That's where it was like left at. And I guess he was at the vet for a few days and they didn't know that I was in the hospital. And so they had figured the original car accident date was a couple weeks prior. That's why they called. So I show them all the paperwork and they're like, okay, we're, we're going to arrest you.

But I can see that it was like you're in the hospital. Then you find him, but you're still going to have to go to court. Okay. So I end up going to court a few weeks later. They see, I show them the paperwork and they were like, okay, we'll come back in three weeks. You know, we'll settle this. Okay. Go back to court.

court three weeks later and um they call the case and i kind of show him i'm like hey like i'm in i'm in i'm in the hospital i'm out a day i find him the next day and he's at the vet the next day right what's up where's my dog at and uh dude from the dude in the pews behind me he's like he's like hey if they have a pit bull or a rottweiler longer than like a couple of weeks they put him to sleep and so i'm like what and so they're like okay then court the judge is like okay well we see that this is you know see what's going on here we're just going to leave your case open you know boom it hits the gavel and I'm like whoa whoa I'm like wait a minute like where's my dog at man I'm like I show you I'm in the hospital like there's obviously not animal cruelty like what the fuck's the deal man

and the prosecution was like a board it was like a bunch of bunch of bunch of women that didn't look like they were straight you know what I mean there's a bunch of a bunch of a bunch of lesbians on the prosecution board right and and I'm sitting there I'm like are you kidding me and like I'm here i'm like i'm like so did you guys put my dog to sleep i'm sitting here in court i'm sitting here fighting my case and before i can prove that i'm innocent you guys are going to put my dog to sleep right i was like how how hypocritical is that man like that's what's wrong with your guys system i start talking shit to the judge and uh he starts banging his gavel he's like get out of here before i hold you in contempt da da da da da da da da da i just started letting him have it man but uh my buddy that was

there kind of helped remove me from the courtroom uh where was the dog they put the dog to sleep so i thought the guy had just said that they this is what they do yeah they put the dog to sleep before i could even prove that that what was going on before i could prove my innocence they put they had already by then put the dog just sleep yeah crazy i rescued the dog from that you know is i mean i was my negligence doing what i did and putting the dog in the situation like i take ownership of that you know that's my fault uh however that shows a big kind of hole in the system right there you know Arizona's madness man just just you know did the geographical change I'm there just just screwing up so two two and a half years goes by I have a friend of mine that's

living in Austin Texas that I grew up with in the Palisades and he's like hey come out this way he had gotten big into like the underground music scene which was real big in Austin back then her still is and so I went out to Texas was in Texas again with the mission to go to school, but I'm still in my addiction. So it's like I just did the geographical change again. So I end up just working because I'm a functioning addict, you know, and start working for a sales company as a fundraising company. And I'm there for a few weeks and they asked me to get into management. So I got into management. I went from managing a section of the office to a couple of sections in the office. And then I ended up running the entire office. It was like about 125 people.

So what was a it's a fundraising company? Fundraising company. For what? They were actually doing fundraising for police and fire organizations. Okay. Yeah. And, you know, it was one of those real kind of shady organizations. I mean, they're actually pretty well known, like the fraternal order of police, like FOP.

There's like pretty big organizations that are actually okay with it, but the organization can keep up to like they can keep like up to 80%. And in some cases, even more than that, you know, some of these non. profit yeah 500 bucks and the cops are getting maybe 20 20 bucks but obviously the association is okay with it um that's why they have the contract to begin with but still in my opinion that's not a very fair percentage yeah um these guys the company i was working for they were a bunch of a bunch of dudes from a new brunswick jersey a bunch of jersey guys right and uh they ended up the f tc ended up coming after them for like i don't know how many millions of dollars but they were they were doing it big they were buying up like cold as sacks in jersey like these guys were

crushing it they had so they had like 53 offices nationwide um the office i was working for was one of the bottom earning offices uh once i kind of took over and was running the office there uh within management uh took it to being like one of the top earning offices in the country was like between one and three it was always flipping around uh so did that for a few years uh was dating some girl that was a stripper you know just living that kind of crazy lifestyle and uh they were going to give me an office to open in la they were like hey we're going to open a few offices in california we'd like you to go open los angeles office okay cool run it send it so time gets close to me excuse me going and opening that office and uh one of the one of these guys back in jersey one of their

cousins had gotten in trouble and was like needed to get out of there so they're like all right we're going to give the la office to to this guy uh we want you to go up to modesto to open the office in Modesto. I was like, man, I'm not going to Modesto. Modesto is not a very nice area. And so I was like, all right, well, you know, I'd been gone from California for about six and a half years. I missed my family. My brother had at that point in time started a construction company in San Diego. So it was actually doing pretty good. And so I was like, all right, I'm going to go to San Diego, link up with my brother. I'd been gone, missed him for, you know, X so many years and help grow this construction company with him. So move out to San Diego.

Diego and you know he was partying a little bit you know we were doing a bunch of doing a bunch of powder and construction company is going good he was doing some commercial and residential was building some like beauty salons in San Diego some upper end like you know where they do all like the laser treatment and all that kind of stuff some high end salons then was also doing some residential homes in Coronado so got out to California to link up with him and things were pretty good it was really good to spend some time around my brother like when we were growing up we were very very close like we're only three and a half years apart um he was like my better half you know i did all the typical older brother stuff you know put him in a shopping

card and like push him down a hill and just something fucking shit like all the all the cool typical stuff man so but it made a real tough tough son of a bitch younger brother i mean this kid was tough man like never saw this kid back down from any situation ever like that's rare yeah in any situation i mean no matter how bad this situation was he never backed down um is your stat was your dad still around at this time so he also running a construction company or no he had at that point of time he actually had started working again uh he had gone through uh when my parents divorced um it was because in that the early 90s there was a big housing crowd So he had had a few houses on the market in the palisades that the bank ended up taken over.

So there was a lot of financial issues taking place when they when they got divorced. He had about 60 guys on his construction company. And so he was still carrying all these guys when all this stuff was taking place. And it was like dwindling away their savings account. He just didn't want to, you know, let these guys go and stuff like that. My dad was a good, good dude. And so a lot of the financial issues were a big cause in the separation of my parents. So he had gone through a bunch of other lines of work after that, had retired for a little bit.

But then at that point in time, when I came back to California, he was actually in the construction industry. He was a superintendent on a custom spec house in Bel Air. Like I think the house was like, I think it was like 96, 9800 square feet, a nice big custom. house in Bel Air. So I'm in San Diego with my brother and actually my father had called and said that they were pissed off at the masonry guys. They had screwed it up. And if we wanted to come up and bid like a sub slab area in the backyard for the pool equipment and to bid a retaining wall property line. So we're like, yeah, for sure. So we came up there, got that work and it turned into, oh, we ended up getting the entire backyard. I mean, it was like about like

4,000 square feet, a flagstone, a bunch of other hardscape, pool, like mosaic tile. It's probably about like, I don't know, three or $400,000 worth of work. We started then going from house to house. They were, it was investment developing. And so this was about 2007, just about a little before 2008. And we started going from house to house. And each of these houses, I mean, the smallest one was the 9,600 square feet. The biggest house we worked. on was like 19,000 square feet um and each house we're doing all of the hardscape uh we're doing some interior tile work uh mostly mostly masonry work and uh so we're making a lot of money at that point time i mean we're we're getting some pretty good paychecks you know every two weeks we're getting

paychecks for like 50 000 stuff like that and so we're i mean i'm 26 my brother's 23 right so you know We're buying brightling watches with the diamond bezel and diamond bracelets and all sorts of silly stuff. Yeah, I was just going to say spinning it stupidly, yeah. I mean, we were burning money. We were living in L.A. at the time. So we would come down to San Diego for the weekend. So we would leave like Thursday come down for the weekend. We'd leave Thursday coming to San Diego.

Back then we'd stay like the Hard Rock Hotel. Back then they had like those big pool parties. the intervention pool parties is kind of like they had a rehab in Vegas there's a big big pool parties where kids were partying all sorts of stuff so we go down to the hard rock we'd get a cabana that was like 20 grand for the weekend uh we'd have you have bottle service you know VIP stuff all that all that crap burning money so it would be like Thursday maybe Friday at the latest we would go down uh do all this stuff and we'd be partying hard man like me and my brother between the two of us we would go through like an ounce of powder, uh, like within a day, a little more than a day.

Uh, so we're hitting it hard, man, you know, pool parties, all that stuff. Friday, Saturday, Sunday, by Sunday, everybody's gone, but we're still there. And so it would be like Sunday, we're still partying. And then like Monday would come around. We're still kind of partying. I remember we'd go down to, uh, go down to the lobby and they'd have like one of the restaurants. I forget what it was called. And so we'd go down there.

order some cocktails and we'd see all these people in their suits and everything right and i remember this one time man my brother's hilarious dude he was like we're sitting there like looking at we're starting to get all paranoid we've been up for a few days you know what i mean we see all these people in suits and uh we're looking at the drinks and my brother says i'll order a my tie it's like we didn't have a tie so everybody else is wearing ties so i'm like bro you're you're a jackass man just dad jokes yeah and so you yeah you you know, I'm grateful for the memories, you know what I mean? It was dumb stuff that we were doing.

I can laugh at it now, you know what I mean? But it was just madness, bro. It was just absolutely crazy. I mean, we're spending so much money. So then we'd maybe make it back up to L.A. by like Tuesday or Wednesday, all paranoid, like driving, like looking over our shoulders, thinking the cops are following us, you know, like it was not good for work purposes. You know, there would be times where my brother would go off.

and do things or, you know, he would like to gamble a lot, so he'd be in Vegas. I'd get a call from one of our buddies talking about, hey, I just had to let Angelo borrow 20 grand, man, like, what's up? And I'm like, it's cool. We'll get, I'll take care of it. Don't worry about it. But things were just really wild, pretty crazy. One incident, I was with my brother. It was actually a family affair. We had gone to Lake Havasu, the Colorado River out there, and went out there. family was out there but of course we just take all our drugs with us and we'd be partying so we'd be out on the we're out on the river one day uh we had c-dus and i remember in our c-dew we had like a bottle of gray goose we had a bunch of powder in there and so we're sitting there you know taking g doing a bunch of blow

drinking alcohol on the c-dus all day evening rolls around they're like okay we're gonna have a dinner like okay so we go to dinner try to eat some food because we haven't eaten any food all day and um don't really eat any food drink more cocktails and a plan was to be up on the water the next morning and so I'm like all right I'm like hey angelo man I'm gonna go lay down man I need to try and get some kind of rest he's like no man let's go hit the tables and I'm like no dude let's go lay down he's like no man let's hit the tables I'm like dude I'm gonna go lay down like if you want to go hit the tables go ahead so he goes hits the uh he would play uh he'd play blackjack you know we would play blackjack and so he goes and hits the tables

I go upstairs and lay down apparently my brother's at the table just like kind of shoveling chips towards the dealer like barely even conscious doesn't know what he's doing and my dad actually comes walking up and sees what's going on and starts talking shit to the dealer like hey what the what the fuck's wrong with you man like you're actually dealing this kid so my dad goes to pick my brother up my brother's a big kid man he's like he wasn't as tall he was maybe like 510 I think he was 5 9 he'd like to say he was 6 foot but he was 5 9 and uh but he was like 250 he was a big kid so So my dad tries, my dad's a big dude. He's about six feet tall. And so he like picks my brother up and is trying to walk him back to the elevator. And my brother drops out in the middle of the casino floor and starts like foaming at the mouth. And what happened? What? He's overdosing.

Oh, okay. Too much G, too much powder, too much alcohol. Okay. And so he's laid out on the floor foaming at the mouth. And my dad actually causes a pretty big scene and actually gets them to call an. ambulance pretty quickly. If that hadn't happened, too much time, definitely would have gone by. So actually, able to call an ambulance. The EMTs get there, get them on there. And I guess they get him breathing. And so next thing, you know, I wake up at the bed and my dad's at the foot of my

bed with my brother's girlfriend at the time. And they're like, Angela's in the hospital. Man, he just laid out. And so get dressed real quick. We go to the hospital. Get out the car and I'm kind of beelining into the hospital pretty quickly. And my brother's girlfriend's kind of keeping up with me. So I get in there and I find out where he's at. I go up to the room and the doctor's like, hey, they're like, okay, like, so what did he have? What did he consume? And his girlfriend's like, he didn't do anything. He drank a little alcohol. I was like, man, shut the fuck up, bitch. Like, I was like, I told him exactly like, I was like, this is, we've been doing G all day. We've been doing a bunch of powder, a bunch of alcohol. And they're like,

okay, cool. So that way they just don't give them enough stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And she's they need it. Yeah, they need to know. Yeah, absolutely. Just so they can not do or, you know, whatever so I she really kind of you know she was all bad man I told my brother from day one his girlfriend I'm like dude she's a tweaker she's not good and she was like he was like no no no she's not it later came out that she was a tweaker she was all bad and that whole story continues you know um as soon as we leave the hospital I see my brother so we go down there and my brother kind of wakes up and he's got these tight ass hospital pants on and uh back then we used to watch that movie uh nacho librai a lot and it was like and uh and so he's like laid out on the bed and he kind

of sits up and he's got a gut on him so he's got this gut and these tight ass pants on and uh and so i walk in the room i'm like nacho so we just started laughing bro like we're always having a good time we're always just cracking jokes just people would always want to be around us because we're always having a good time you know so of course here he is almost died and we're sitting here laughing at the thing you know so he has to stay for a little while later what i was getting as then so we end up leaving and she as soon as we get back to the hotel man my brother's girlfriend like runs up to the runs up to the room goes in the safe and takes a bunch of the money out of there to go like burn the money gambling you know what i mean so she's just no good it's the first

of a not the first but that's just one of many things that she's just had done um madness continues man uh from there at that point in time things uh things actually me and my brother start buttoned heads actually because uh my because that girl would cause she didn't know i had first gotten in trouble about a year year or two prior first time i got in trouble was 26 years old a girl that i had known from high school i had ran back into when we moved up to la because we're doing all the construction work um she was bat shit crazy uh so i started dating this girl um and She just was a bad alcoholic. She couldn't control her drinking.

She ends up attacking me one night. And I end up getting out of the house. The neighbors had called the cops. And so back then, it was like if there's a domestic call, the guy goes to jail. So I go to jail. I have like eight hematoma bite marks all over my body that they take pictures of. And but still, they're charging me with a case. And she initially, I talked.

her initially and she was like I was like hey this isn't cool like you know you attacked me like this isn't right like I didn't even lay a hand on you like I was raised by my mom like I don't get down like that and she's like no no I know I'll make everything I'll fix it I'm like okay cool so we end up going to court and she shows up with her mom and her mom doesn't like me her mom knew me from when I was in high school and she's like that's a trouble kid and so she was still being supported by her mom so evidently she had told her mom had told her if you don't testify against him I'm going to cut you off. So she gets on stand, testifies against me, a whole bunch of holes in her story.

However, I'd never been in the system before and didn't really know that like, hey, I need to take this to the box. I should have taken it to trial. Right. Because it would have been dismissed. But scare tactics. I got caught up on January 20th. So I was in there fighting the case, January, February, March, April. And you're locked up the whole time?

Yeah, I'm locked up the whole time. I'm fighting the case. Oh, shit. Yeah, we had a public defender. You can't get it. They can't let you out on bond or is it domestic because it's domestic violence? Well, initially we didn't think it was going to go anywhere. I could have, I could have got, I would have had, I had bail, but we didn't think it would go that long. Like I ended up going to like my prelims and that's when she like testified against me. And so then I went to the next thing and it was like, okay, well, this should be kicked out. This is ridiculous. You know, it's not even a case. But it kept going. And so like after two or three times in court, we went ahead and brought in a private attorney.

And then once my private attorney showed up, they started back. backpedaling a little bit they were like okay uh you know i was starting to get some action in the courtroom and so the um they had offered me a deal and my attorney was like we're not taking that nope we're not doing that he's like they still want the felony we're not doing that absolutely not we'll come back uh it was then at that point uh was going to be jury selection so that would be the last time you'd have a deal before you start trial and he's like nope we're not taking that we'll come back and and get a better deal i'm like okay cool man finally i had thought i had something going for me. So the next court date, he ends up getting called. Book Club on Monday.

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that they were going to give me but saw that the filling was there and so they put my original deal back on the table and she didn't know anything about the case and so it was either take this deal or then take it to trial and if her uh well he probably would have come back for the trial but it was like I didn't want to go to trial because it was like if I went to trial like my max was four years it was like from one to four and I was 26 and I was like I've never been in trouble before I'm like, man, I was like, I can go to a prison until I'm 30 years old. And I was like, I didn't even touch this is fucking crazy. And so the deal was, so the deal, they go, okay, it'll still be a felony.

It's 52 weeks, anger management class, three years probation. If you take this deal today, you could be out today, tomorrow, or maybe in two weeks. And I was like, okay, so basically, worst case scenario, I'm out of here in two weeks. And they're like, yes. Like, okay. all right i'll take the deal and worst mistake i ever made be making myself a felon take the deal that's april 10th right and so i go back to i go back to housing a few a week goes by two weeks go by nothing three weeks go by four weeks it's about my close to my birthday the end of may and i call

my attorney i'm like dude what's up man it's way over two weeks he's like dude i just looked at your release date in the computer it's august third i'm like what he's like yeah and i'm like what the fuck and he's like that's that's it he's like i'm like dude no way they told it told me in court two weeks and he's like i don't i but that's that's just what it is i was like no dude i was like i want to pull the minute report that's what's was stated in court he's like that it's just what it is i was like wow so ended up staying until august third was my release date got released in august um this one uh so that my brother at first started dating that girl before i got in trouble uh when i got out they've been dating for about a year

The night I got arrested was the first night they went on to date. She was actually, they were there during the whole incident. So I get out and that's when I finally got to know her a little bit and I told my brother that she was all bad. Once I got out and she kind of realized how close me and my brother were, she started doing everything she could to put some space between us. So unfortunately, that started happening. Me and my brother started buttoned heads. And so we kind of went on our own, went our own ways. I then started working with an HVAC company that was a friend of my dad's.

And at this point in time, I'm almost 30. At that point in time, I lost my, lost my everything that was going on. So I started hanging out with some guys that were from my neighborhood where I lived. And a few of these guys were smoking crystal. So I decided to smoke crystal at 30 years old and was the worst mistake I ever made, man. I was going to say, does anybody ever say best mistake or selling crystal, best mistake our best decision I ever made? It was the best mistake I ever made. Oh, man. You know, I mean,

I've been doing stuff and it was like, oh, wow, this is great. Like this is, you know, now I'm just good for like a day or two, you know, but so I start smoking crystal, but I'm still going to work, showing up on time, but they know something's up. And so work is like, hey, you need to go to rehab or you don't have a job. And I was like, well, I've never been late. I haven't missed a day at work. I was like, well, I guess I don't have a job. So there went the job. So job went. And then next thing you know, the apartment goes. And, and then I'm on my own. And, uh, it was on my own means. I was homeless. Yeah, I was homeless. Yeah. I was on the street. And, um, quickly moved into, uh, I had a car that I'd gotten towed just when I started all this madness started, uh, because I hadn't

paid a ticket or something and lost the car. So then I was out. I was homeless. So then I started stealing cars to have a car. I ended up getting my hands on this. How do you steal a car? You just, you just end up getting a hold of things, man, when you're living that life. Like so it was I was with some buddies, one of the first times. It was like, I'm with some buddies. And their buddies shows up. And he shows up in a fucking taxi. And we're like, what the fuck? And he's like, yeah, dude, he tells us some way out story that this dude tried to attack him. And he like, I beat up the dude pulled him out of the taxi and now he has the taxi and so it was like he was like hey he's like do you want this car you I was like yeah I was like here I'll give you I'll give you some

dope and I'll trade you for the car he was like okay so I was like cool trade him some dope so I got this yellow taxi cab so now I had a car and I was like cool man and so I got some spray paint I like spray painted half of it like half like flat black and I spray painted a ratchet cab on the hood and uh and we just start make running like this was uh maybe like 2009 2010 and so all that whole like uh stealing from stores things wasn't that big back then and so i mean we're going around we're going to stores we're going to stores with backpacks filling up backpacks full of stuff uh or and and running out of the store going into department stores and taking the big racks of watches like nice watches and take running with those out of the store and so one of us

be in the car waiting or something and guys would come running out being chased by people jumping into this cab and we'd be speeding off and so we just started causing a lot of trouble around town to the descriptions of the cab or of the car are some people are saying it's a yellow cab and other people saying it's a black it's a flat black yeah dodge you know it is on which side of the road you were on when you guys when you guys whipped off that was crazy i have and they got a big trunk man these old they're like those old caprices right and so like i'd always have in the trunk the trunk the trunk would always just be full of of like random nice stuff like i like nice designer stuff so i'd have all sorts of stuff in the car stuff that

i would end up selling to people i know for money and uh best dressed homeless guy best dress homeless guy dude i was styling real i'd have had like a Gucci belt on like i'd have like all sorts of design or stuff and um just start doing everything around the neighborhood that we could to make money it was like a uh uh you know on the west side of l a it's some pretty you know uh nice neighborhoods like marina del ray was a nice neighborhood so we would go to marina del ray and we would target for a lot of like high end like triathlon bikes bikes that are like 10 15 20 thousand dollar bicycles right and so we were going and started you know peeling a bunch of these bikes You know, I ended up having stashes of, like, hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of bikes.

So this is all during this time was actually right before I lost my apartment. You know, I was smoking Bristol. And this when this whole madness started. I'm in the apartment before I lost it. And this is how I actually knew that things had gotten pretty crazy. Actually, from this incident is how I realized that I was on LAPD's Pacific Division's Most Wanted list. I'm at my, I'm at my apartment before I lose it. and um it's midday and i'm just finished taking a shower a couple buddies are there and so

hear a knock on the door that's not like a not a hand you know it's it's it's something hard you know like a flashlight you know everybody knows that sound and so here the knock on the door my buddies come get me they're like hey i think the cops are at the door so okay i'm on probation at that point in time so i go go to the door and look through the people it's a couple of cops. One's by the door. One's down farther the hallway. And I'm like, yeah, what's up? And they're like, yeah, we're here for a noise complaint. And I'm like, I wasn't even playing any music.

And I'm like, okay, what's up? And they're like, we have to give you this card. You know, and I'm like, okay, all right, cool, man. You just slide it in the door. You know, I just got out the shower. And they're like, oh, no, you know, we have to give this card to you. And I'm like, well, man, I don't know what to tell you. I'm sitting here butt naked, man. Like, I just got out the shower. And so this is, this is playing over like maybe like five minutes. like almost 10 minutes and so you know it's in the back of my mind it's like I'm on probation and

I'm supposed to comply like I can't not comply that be a violation so eventually I'm like okay I got to open the door so um I'm sitting there just going at it with them like they won't slide on the door so I get them I'm like okay I cracked the door like maybe six inches not even six inches I'm like okay hey you know what's up hand me the card and the guy's like oh well did you get out the show you have any clothes on man you get out the shower and I had some boxers on some white polo ralph learned boxers and i was like yeah i got some boxers on and so i crack it from like six inches to maybe like not even a foot and as i do that just to kind of show him i had some boxers on the guy by the door says good we got a warrant and slams his shoulder into the door

and uh like i'm spun out i'm high is you know the kite and so i instantly just like have my shoulder back into the door and so i literally have like this like push a war not like a tug of war but like a push of war with the door with this cop, man. And I'm spun out of my mind, so I'm winning. I'm closing the door on this dude. And, but it starts bowing out. And as it bows out, once it gets close to closing, I see at the bottom, he's got his boot is inside the threshold.

And so I knew, like, the door's not going to close. Right. By that point in time, my buddies had bailed off the patio. And so, like, I, like, it was all in slow motion. I, like, stop and I turn and I see the patio with a curtain. and like the light coming from behind the patio. And I swear I heard this sound like, oh. And I'm like, all right.

Shit, man, I'm going. And so I gave myself a count. I'm like, all right, on three, man. Just fucking go. So I was like, one, two, three, like took it and broke. And it's like a straight shot through the hallway and then straight through the living room. And then the patio was like almost lined up with the front door. So I just started be lining it through the apartment.

And I can feel this dude, like door slamming. open I can feel this dude behind me and get through the living room and I get to the to the towards the to the curtain to the patio and so I'm like I got no time so I literally like swim move the curtain and it from there it's about like four feet and then like a three foot railing and then you got like a hedge bush that's another few feet and then it's about a six foot drop so I'm like shit man I don't have any time so I just swim move the curtain and just fucking superman it off the patio and uh flying flying i'm clearing it i'm clearing everything but then i realized like how high i am and i was

like oh shit so i just kind of start to tuck i tuck a little bit and i spin i end up i guess i land on my back in this planner but next thing you know i'm like up on my feet and then i'm out of the planner and then i'm in the grass and the next thing you know i'm in the street and i'm like oh shit in your boxers in just my boxers no shoes no nothing turns out my phone's in my hand though right which was pretty cool and so i turn around and I look and this dude's like barely standing barely putting his boot on the railing to jump over and I'm like man I'm gone right and so there's two alleys and so I'm like I got to get to that far alley that close one's too close and so I start be lining it down my street in the

middle of the day and there's like the first first house I come to one of the neighbor's houses he's like out on the lawn like watering his lawn and I just start getting and I see this dude and he looks at me like what the fuck it's like I'm like don't look car cars are driving past me. I'm like, all right, just pick a spot down the street and fucking get there. You know, like I played football. I went to a running coach. Like, I, like, worked on my running form. Like, I had that shit dialed. And so I'm getting it down the street. And I could feel the bottom of like my toes, like tearing up on the asphalt. You know what I mean? But I'm like, man, just get there. And so I'm, I'm getting it, right? And I'm like,

okay, I'm doing good. Like, where is this guy? I want to look. But I'm like, now, don't look. If you look, it's going to slow you down like half a pace. You know what I mean? So I don't look make it to the other alley and as soon as i get to the other alley i stop and i turn and look i don't stop but like i break my stride and look and he's like half a block back and i'm like man i got this dude so i peel down the alley i go up into some apartment buildings and like at that point it kind of hits me that i'm just in my boxers so i kind of like started like crouching around and stuff and like i call my call my call my my home girl that live down the street and i'm like i call her and like hey hey the fucking cops are chasing me come pick me up and she's like dude she was like

i was on my way to your house i just drove past you running down the street and your fucking boxers i was like turn the fuck around come pick me up so she comes up pulls in the street i go running out dive into the car and we get out of there um and just it just was i mean that was i remember that being on like whatever day of the week that was i go to my buddy's house that's in another part of it's still Pacific Division LAPD Pacific Division but it's like on the other side of the of the district and so I go to my buddy's house I lay low for like a day or two and I just can't I like you know I'm smoking smoking crystals so like I got to do something so like a day and a half goes by and I'm like all right let's get out of here so we go up to he lived

right by Los Sienega in Venice which are two major streets and so we go up to like a Ross on Las Sienega and I'm like walking around the Ross and he's like hey I'm going to go to your house and go get some of your stuff because I didn't have any of my stuff he'd give me some clothes to wear so I'm like okay cool so he goes to my house and then at that point in time I was like man that's a bad idea like now I'm on foot not good so I'm like this isn't good I can't be in public on foot you know I'm going to go back to his house so I walk out I start walking down La Siena to get to his house in Venice off Venice Boulevard and as soon as I start making my way down lost sienega a black and white rolls behind me and i'm like oh shit they keep going no brake lights or nothing i'm like okay cool but i like stop i like tighten my stuff up you know i tighten my shoes up it's heightened my pants up and so i then i just keep walking i get to the next block and as soon as i get into the intersection um i can see from my peripheral that the black and white is tucked up against the building and i'm like these fuckers so i get like into the crosswalk and i'm walk in. As soon as I get into the crosswalk, they were like, they bleat me. They're like, hey,

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And I just was like, fuck that, man. I just turned and took off. At least this time I had some shoes on, man. So I take off. I run across the street. I think one guy started to chase me. The other guy got in the car. But run across the street.

And right there by Los Angeles is a big like Kaiser, Kaiser Permanente. And run across the street, running by the hospital. And they're in the car at that point in time. I run in. I run through a ticket booth. I'm like, okay, that'll stop him for a second. Run through the ticket booth. And then I like make a decision on like whether to go into the hospital or not.

And I was like, nah, it's just too many people there. You know, too many eyes. too many cameras, divert on the hotel, on the hospital, and then I just run, run across the street. There's some apartment complexes. I'm going to try and make it to my buddy's house. So I run across this other street, get over these big apartment fences, make it to the other side of the street, get down. I'm almost there. I'm like about like two blocks away, and I'm walking down, I'm going down the street pretty like in the cut. And there's one alleyway that they could come up. So I'm being cautious of this alley. As soon as I get up to the alley,

I see they're actually coming down that alley. So I have to backtrack, run back, run back over to this big, like 20-foot fence that I hopped. So I get to the fence and I'm getting kind of gassed. So I'm like, fuck, man. I hit this fence. I get up to the top, but I can't pull myself over. And so I'm like, I'm fucking caught, man. I like fall down, but I turn around.

I look and they're not there. I'm like, oh, shit. So I grab a trash can. Set the trash can there. That gave me just enough to kind of where I could get up over the fence. Get over the fence. as I'm getting over the fence I start to hear

do do do do do do do do and I'm like oh shit man they had called the ghetto bird you know the helicopter and uh so ghetto bird yeah the ghetto bird yeah man and I knew that

I heard it but it wasn't anywhere visual yet like I couldn't see it so I was like I knew my clock was ticking man so from the fence I was on to a carport and it was a decently high carport and so but there was a couple trash can So I literally jumped off the carport, bounced off the trash cans, up on my feet again, and run out. So this was actually Cadillac is the name of the street.

Run out to Cadillac. Run down Cadillac. And I run back across Los Angeles Boulevard. There's like cars everywhere. Cars are skirching tires, almost hitting each, hitting each other. I run back behind these two gas stations. I tuck up in an apartment building. And I call my homeboy.

I'm like, dude, where the fuck are you at? Dude, the fucking cops are chasing me, man. And, uh, he's like, I'm at, your house, man. I'm like, dude, hurry up and get over here, bro. So I'm sitting there. The helicopter's above. I can see cop cars coming, you know, and they're on all in all these side streets. And I'm tucked up in this apartment. And I'm kind of dirty from like the ivy and stuff that I was running over. Some old lady comes out and kind of looks at me and I'm like, yeah, hey, hi, ma'am, it's kind of hot today, huh? And she kind of gives me a weird look. I call my boy back.

I'm like, dude, what the fuck? Where are you at, dude? And he's like, I'm just getting there. He's like, he's like but they got the place surrounded bro i don't know how i'm going to get to you i was like man um so i'm sitting there just don't know what i'm going to do and uh he calls me back about 30 seconds later he's like hey they left one of the alleyways open he's like this front alleyway he's like i'm coming down that alleyway so ran out to the alleyway jumped in his van got underneath like a blanket that he had in there and we ended up getting out of there um but that's how i learned at that point in time they had my flyer up in the cop cars of my face and my buddy's face uh just all the shit we were doing around the neighborhood um it was a cat and mouse game for a while uh eventually

i had gone to go see my dad uh at his at his apartment and went there at like two three o'clock in the morning you know i had to really kind of navigate it was tough for me to get places in the neighborhood and so got to see him it was his birthday and i'm in there i'm sitting on the couch but next thing you know i like wake up i guess i nodded out on the couch wake up and my dad's there in his robe his hair's wet and like it's a little bit of daylight out so i know it's morning and he's like hey anthony i'm so sorry man but they got they got the place surrounded and i was like what so when i looked they had the patio blocked off the sides of the place blocked off and i was just like all right man i got nowhere to go so how did they track you to your dad's house um so they knew that that was like

um it was one of your addresses yeah right right um and it was it was his birthday i think and so i think they just figured that hey, put it up, put it together. Yeah, he might want to see his dad on his birthday. And they'll usually hit houses early in the morning, like six, eight, you know, they hit houses early in the morning. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, so that happened, they hit the house.

And, uh, you know, it was kind of funny. Are we, we get rolling or? Yes. Okay. Yeah, it's funny. They actually, so they hit the house, um, had nowhere to go. And so I was like, all right, dad, I guess let him in, you know, so I had like made my way back to the back bedroom while he went to go let him in and i went and i laid down on the bed and kind of

just was laid out on the bed you know you know with my arms out and everything and so they come in they're like oh no motherfucker like like pulled me off the bed they're not going to do anything on the bed so they like grab my foot and like you know yank my ass off the bed I'm on the ground uh you know I get knees in my back they make my elbow touch the back of my head you know and like like rough me up a little bit you know so so snatch my ass up I end up going down to the division and they put me in the tank like off to the side and uh guys it was like shift change right around that time and so guys are coming in guys are leaving and I remember guys like seeing me and guys being like yeah and like high-fiving each other and I'm like oh shit like what's going

on and uh I was like you guys are acting like I'm a big deal or something what's the deal I'm just some, you know, dumb kid causing problems. But I guess apparently it was some sort of a deal because, like, guys were walking by, I guess everybody had... Well, they probably been looking for you for several days, right? At least they have your photograph on a wanted post or sitting in their car. Yeah, I don't think they liked that I was getting away from them, too. Right.

You know what I mean? But, uh, so, so that had happened. It was just a real vicious cycle of, uh, of these kind of things occurring. Um, and then when I'd be, uh, when I'd go into custody, in L.A. County Jail, since my first charge was violent, I would go to a lot of high security places. So I would go to L.A. County Jail has a notorious place called Supermax that's up at Wayside, which is Pitch's Detention Center, which is not in downtown where the other facilities are, like Twin Towers and everything. But this is out by like Magic Mountain. I think I forget what area that is. It's by like Lake Castaic. So they have a few housing units, facilities at Wayside.

side. Supermax is one. East Max is another one that they've shut down. It was like a pre-fire camp for a little while. Then they have like medium north and medium south. Those are just due to security levels. So a lot of the time I would be, I would go to supermax because my security level was high. However, before I would make it out to Wayside, there were times where I'd be in LA County and downtown. And around that time, the sheriffs were on another level, man. was a big thing like i'd mentioned like the the law enforcement having gangs uh sheriff departments would have gangs within their department uh one of them for example was uh the 3 000 boys uh 3 000 boys are notorious uh the sheriff gang that worked the men's central jail in downtown they worked uh the 3 000

floor the 3 000 floor was a high security floor um and so these guys were were big dues man they were all like six feet tall or taller a lot of these guys were all running gear so they're all juiced up they're big old swole dudes right they're all blasted up they're all sleeved up and everything and uh back then guys would wear you know sheriffs would have a uh what do you call it um their belt you know their belt with all like their cuffs and stick and all that things on it these guys wouldn't wear a belt they just have their pants with their regular belt on and a big old maglite in their back pocket and maybe some cuffs like stuffed in their pants and uh these dudes would go around and they'd give everybody a lot of they'd show a lot of love they'd give guys a lot of maglite

therapy and so it was like if you're if you're in there and you look and literally like if you look at these dudes like if you make eye contact with them they'll they'll smash you in the face with their maglite um and they were they were they were beating people all the time like this was a regular occurrence. He got so bad that the sheriffs ended up getting indicted. The head sheriff, he got indicted. I think it was Tanaka. I forget his undersheriffs. No, it was Bakka. Lee Baca was the head sheriff. He got indicted. The undersheriff, Tanaka, got indicted. And then a bunch of the other sheriffs ended up getting indicted. It was a big case. The feds got involved with it and everything. But when I was going through LA County Jail, this is how it was

ran back then. It was a pretty serious kind of place. uh today it's a little bit different and i don't know if it's a good thing um so i'd do time there or i'd go out to supermax um and just from starting to do time everything is very segregated like when you go in there the sheriffs ask you like who do you run with because everything split up by race it's either you run white you run south side which is like Hispanics uh or you're a pisa which are just the uh Hispanics that don't speak english there's others which are Asians, Middle Easterners, Islanders, and then there's the blacks. So there's five different races.

And so when you go in there, they ask who you run with. And then you tell them who you run with. And then you go, when you go in there, everything's, you know, you go to your people. They give you the rundown on the protocol, like how the program operates in there. Hey, use, these are our showers. These are our phones. These are our tables. These are our toilets.

These are our sinks. Everything's, everything's segregated. And so there's a lot. there's a lot of protocols to follow and just like you don't play card games with other races you don't play sports with other races there's a whole long list of do's and don'ts and so in there i guess some guys aren't the sharpest tools in the shed so a lot of guys sometimes have hard times following the rules stuff like that um so just for me ended up doing doing a little bit of time um and always being paying attention of what's going on because it's a pretty serious place in there

dudes are getting dealt with people are getting into all you know all sorts of trouble uh i just paid attention to what was going on so i learned the program i learned what you do what you don't do and and then also i just ran my program my routine very structured like i would make sure my bed area is clean all my stuff is in order you know i'd make sure that i was working out i had a lot of respect like i was treated people with respect i had my manners etc and that just turned out to be a good blueprint on way to run things. So through being there over periods of time, the position would come up where the representative for our race would end up going home or going upstate to prison. And a lot of the

times I would end up in that position. I'd end up being a shot call or whatever you want to call it. Most of the time, it wasn't really something I wanted to do, but I just, I would step into play to do it because I knew how everything ran and how it should ran. And that would keep peace within the unit. You know what I mean? I'm not trying to get into a wreck where we're getting in a riot with another race because some guy does something stupid. Right.

You know what I mean? So I ended up being a shot call in a bunch of places in Supermax for a long time, um, many different places in L.A. County jail, uh, this madness would continue. I'd be sober when I was incarcerated because there'd be so many problems that revolved around drugs, whether it was guys were racking up dope debts and then getting smashed. beat up off the unit and like your reputation carries with you like if you get smashed out of a unit wherever you land in that next unit they're going to know about it by the time you get there and you're going to get smashed out of that unit and you just keep getting smashed uh basically

until you PC up um so it's a pretty serious place so ransom units a lot of crazy things happen in there uh i'd be sober uh however when i would get out uh unfortunately i'd find myself back into my addiction well how much time did you do the first when you got arrested for this the running from the cops and the whole thing uh so so that time i ended up getting uh i think i got it was a it was a prison term it was it was like 16 with half because a lot of the things they got me on were non-violent six what is 16 months with half okay yeah it was a it was a first it was a first uh first prison term for me and so the things that they were able to get me for were not not very much it was like they had they knew all the things that I was doing but they just like they had me on camera

in a garage so it was like since that was attached to an apartment complex they were able to call that like a residential burglary which was like I think that's what they ended up getting me on and so that was even though I didn't take anything they didn't have me taking anything that was still um I think it was like 16 one two or three 16 months one year uh or three years and I got the low term because it was my first. case. So even though it's a prison term and it's nonviolent due to AB 109, which was a like a depopulation bill that was passed, if your crime is nonviolent, you're going to do all your time in the county jail, which was kind of messed up. There were guys that had like 20 years

with half time doing like 10 years in the county jail. The guy with the most time that I met was a PISA and he had like 10 DUIs or something and they gave him like 53.3. years with half time he was doing like 21 years in the county jail um so uh do the time of the county jail i did a couple like 16 with halves did a few eight months so i do like eight months get out be out for a brief period of time go back in do another eight months um i got are you going back in for more burglaries or just more yeah and there was there was a grand theft there was one time i got caught um uh you know i was always stealing stuff i'd have like all the, I do my research, though, it was like, you know, you go into places and they'd have, like, the

security sensors. So I would go and get online and find the, uh, tool that they would use to unlock the sensors. Yeah. So I would go and order those things. I had all the, all the tools with me. So I would go, so one time I was at a sax off fifth, which was off Los Angeles there in L.A., went in there, saw like a pair of prod of shoes that looked like Chuck Taylor's. I was like, okay, those are cool. So I got those. And I went by the belts. I saw a couple Burberry belts. They were like some of belts too so i got a couple of burberry belts took the sensors off put them in a bag and uh get out the door dude starts chasing me i outrun one dude i'm end up running through the streets running through a parking complex outrun the first dude and then i'm like trying to get back to my car and another

dude comes out and i was gasped by that time so the second dude caught me end up getting in trouble for that and it was funny it was um the cut off between petty theft and grand theft was like 950 bucks and so with the shoes and the two belt it came to 970 bucks it was 20 bucks over the limit and so that one gave me a uh grand theft um i would get programs drug drug uh mandated drug mandated programs get out to the program get kicked out of the programs all sorts of of dumb stuff uh eventually it was one point time where i they had given me uh i had a joint suspension like they had given me a break gave me a program but the judge was like if you come back i'm going to give you your max max sentence okay go to the program long story short i kind of got done

wrong i went on my first pass to go pick up my property and so i went from carson to santa monica which like i had to take two trains a bus by the time i get to santa monica my half day pass was up so i call them i'm like hey i just made it to the to the department to get my property you know what's up and they're like okay well you know your pass is due up but just get back here and we'll talk about it when you get back so the sheriffs are waiting for you when you get back well so i make it back and all my stuff's outside and i kind of didn't really get along with the counselor like i'm not the dumbest guy so when they would be having classes like i'd answer all the questions pretty easily and the counselor for some reason didn't like that so the counselor had all my stuff

set out in the driveway when i got back so i go into the house to talk to the uh the program manager the person that oversaw everything was this lady and i was like hey what's up i was like i call i was like I took two buses. I got there to get my property. It was a half to have asked. I called when I got there to let him know I just got there. And she was like, wait a minute. You called and let him know?

And I was like, yeah, absolutely. And she was like, oh, he didn't mention that you called. That's a completely different story. I'm like, wow. She's like, well, it's already too late. She's like, I'm going to give you this, this letter that shows that you just have to be gone for 30 days, but then you can come back. Like, it's kind of was just a discrepancy.

She's like, just take that to court right away and you'll be all right. I was like, okay. So I went to court that Monday, showed it to the judge. And he's like, okay, he's like, all right, that's cool. You know, 30 days, go back to the program. But if I see you again, I'm going to give you your joint suspension, which was a three-year joint suspension. So my dumb ass, I take 30 days. And I'm like, I'm just going to take two weeks more and then go check back in.

And so within the first week after the 30 days, I'm going to go pick up a buddy at a house that's hot. in the neighborhood. And I'm telling him, I'm like, hey, dude, be outside. Don't have me waiting. I pull up front. Um, and he's not outside. I'm like, motherfucker. So I go up, knock on the window. And as soon as I walk back to the car, black and white pulls up, they pull me aside, run my name. Uh, turns out I had a no bill warrant. Because I guess at 31 days, I was supposed to check back into the program. So I go back to court and the judge is like, oh, you're back so soon. He's like, I'm going to give you, you know, you're getting your joint suspension. I was like, what? I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like,

I was talking, I was like, look, nobody said I had to be back in 31 days. He said, be gone for at least 30 days. He was like, no, that's it. You're going. Boom. That was in January. This was 2014. And so two, three months, April, April 10th.

I'm a few months into this. I had to do 16 months because it was three years with half. And so April 10th, 2014 was a Saturday. The next day is Sunday. I get called outside to contact home. How is that medium south yard? And so I go outside. They say, hey, you need to contact home.

I didn't really know what that meant at that point in time. So, but usually means something happened within your family that somebody passed away. So I call my dad, call my dad, and he tells me that my brother's dead. So my brother, Angelo, my one brother that I was really close with, the only sibling that I have, my only full-blooded sibling. with a guy from our construction company a supervisor for ours my brother had let him go laid him off for a couple of months because work was slow and uh he knew where my brother lived and they started you know talking shit to each other threatening each other i'll kill you know i'll fucking kill you and um egos got involved and uh the dude just pulled up we got a place off

been in a canyon up off sunset boulevard and uh the guy just pulled up got out of his truck pulled out a weapon and started firing um i don't really know all the details on it because i hadn't got into like you know i wanted to look at the report and everything but you know once you kind of do that you can't unsee things so i'm not sure if he caught a bullet with the first barrage uh he then made it to the front door got in behind the front door and the guy turned around and let off another barrage of bullets at the front door. He ended up taking a bullet in the femoral artery. And then it got him to hunch over and took a bullet behind the ear.

So he died, died there. Don't know how quickly. It was pretty interesting was that happened on the day before, on that Saturday. And at that same point in time, between 3 p.m. and 4 p.m. on that Saturday, we had a count at south yard i was at south and we go outside and stand on these boxes and uh they're doing count and i'm getting fucking pissed off man like for no reason like i didn't know why i was like really really angry like i learned to control my anger when i was a younger like i had anger issues i got in all sorts of shit but i was really really like i wanted to like hurt somebody and and i didn't

know why and so like count took place then after count you do a little cleanup uh in the unit and so like i went i stood by my rack and i had to be by my rack for a while for like a couple of hours i was really really angry man i didn't know what was going on but sure enough at that point in time my brother was laid out leaking man died right then um so i mean i expected you to say like an overdose because you had he had the overdose earlier like that's what i thought was no he had kind of so he had kind of cut back on the on the powder use because he started having heart issues um because he was so overweight right a little overweight um so he had kind of straightened up a little bit

um however there was a lot of things taking place with the construction company that were it was challenging you know money would be good money wouldn't be good he had bad habit of budgeting he wasn't budgeting very well you know and um so there was always that issue and uh it was pretty messed up man uh i'd gotten there was a whole thing because they were going to have a wake for my brother in LA and then have the funeral in San Diego. And so we brought it to court because you can get approved to go to a funeral. And so initially I was denied. Then I got approved. Then I got like denied again. And then I got approved again. And it got all the way to the point where we're getting ready to pay the fees that you have to pay for the sheriffs to transport you and everything. And then it

got turned down. It got denied again. So it was like a real roller coaster of things. It turned out that since there wasn't a physical body present at the wake that I couldn't go like an actual body has to be present yeah so I ended up not being able to go to that didn't get out uh for about a year and a half after that so I got out a year and a half after that and I was off paper off probation so I was like fuck L.A I'm going to go to San Diego be close to my mom support my mom and uh her husband they had opened a restaurant down there I was going to go down there work for the restaurant and just kind of be done with everything so get out go to san diego had an apartment set up start working um working with them for like two or three weeks and some issue came up that was just a

completely over uh overblown thing that was just got turned into it was i'm i'm freaking like i think they knew they knew that the whole restaurant thing has been a real loose ran operation and so I got there I was working there and I'm taking a smoke break I take a smoke break I go off on the side of the building I'm smoking a cigarette and I go and I like retuck my shirt in little like unbutton my pant like the top of my pants tuck my shirt in and the lady that was one of the employees comes walking by and I see her and she's getting ready to leave I'm like off on the side of the building in this little cut smoking a cigarette and I see her I'm like oh hey okay all right have a good evening oh yeah all right have a good one take care and so So she leaves, and the manager for the restaurant, this lady was a full-blown alcoholic. I knew, and I knew she was no good. Like, I just got a good people radar just from all the time I've been doing time. Like, you can just, you just read people pretty good. And so when I first met her, my mom was like, what do you think about her?

And I'm like, no good. I'm like, she's no good. It's everything appears good, but I don't, I don't trust her. And so oddly enough, she ends up making up some fucking way-out story. she says that I was on the side of the building with my pants down all right like what the fuck why would be on building something like give me a break so my mom's husband like here's this story and I'm like that's bullshit I was like where's the let's call this other lady that that was the employee that was actually there because that's not what happened but at all he was like no

that's it you don't have a job so all of a sudden I'm there in san diego with no job with an apartment and a car and uh I resort to doing what I had always done I started smoking crystal again and starts selling, selling dope. So same thing happens to San Diego. Things started getting crazy real quick. Next thing you know, all sorts of crime throughout the city. Selling dope, a buddy that had done a favor for me says, hey, I got a girl that I grew up with.

I need you to sell some dope to her. Okay, I didn't like it. It didn't seem comfortable. Went ahead and did it because I owed him a. a favor so i did that and it happened a couple of times sold her some dope a couple of times and then it got to the point where she was like hey uh i need you to meet my home girl um i can't make it down uh will you meet my home girl and sell her some dope and uh it went from like one ounce to two ounces and uh so i so i meet this other girl and i just didn't have a comfortable

feeling about it really didn't sell her sell her two ounces nothing happens okay whatever continue on in my madness some time goes by about a year goes by and that point in time i had a couple of streets that were filled with cars that were not mine you know i had a uh uh uh like a crown royal bag like a big like you know velvet bag that was full of key fobs had dozens of car keys to all these cars and um i was driving an Audi so you're you're what are you stealing cars and parking them up and down the street you live on there just parked yeah i didn't i was living in out of hotels so yeah i was i was living out of hotels just things were things weren't going very good i wasn't like balling out of control had a bunch of money it was always like just trying to

barely survive right um but there was a buddy of mine that lived in this neighborhood and so there was a couple of streets within that neighborhood that i had all these cars parked on um so i was driving one of the stolen cars and a guy called me because there was a thing at that time where you could get cars through we would go to rental car companies and you could run a card that didn't work and they would call you would call I would call a number that was somebody that I knew and they would act like customer service and so I'd be like hey you know my card got declined what's going on expect oh it's because you've used a couple of charges that are over the limit so we put a we didn't know if that was used so we put a hold on it they're like let us talk to the

the employee there so you put them on the phone with them and then they would my friend would then give them an access code that would actually pull something up and temporarily allow the card to be used even though there was no money on it right it was like a bypass and so then you would charge it and then we would get the car and then we would just keep the car um and so a guy called me from the rental car place and was like hey i have this uh this car you've been waiting on to pick up i'm like okay i'll be there it was friday about 5 p.m i'm in in like northern part of san diego and i got to get to downtown so you know being crazy driving in l a growing up driving in l a it's like you drive very aggressive uh but defensively and so like a lot

of time i just drive on the shoulder like if there's traffic i just drive on the shoulder and so uh so i get i'm in this stolen outy and i hadn't changed the plates yet i just got in this car and so i'm driving on the shoulder pretty much from like clermont all the way to downtown if anybody knows san diego it's about a good 15 minute drive but I end up having to drive the whole time on the shoulder get into downtown and as soon as I get into downtown and coming in down on 6th Street and I go over the bridge and then I see a black and white and so I'm just kind of kind of aware I get over a lane and he goes and he does get behind me but doesn't light me up I get to the next intersection and I hear like a swarm of cop cars like multiple

sirens so I look to my right and it's probably about like almost a dozen cop cars head in my direction So I take off, take them on. They got the tag number and they realize that it's stolen. Yeah. So I take them on a high speed pursuit in the middle of downtown San Diego on Friday at like 5.30 p.m. Man, there's cars everywhere. There's people everywhere. And so it's like a tricked out Audi, man.

It had like all sorts of work done to it. And so I'm like bobbing and weaving people. I don't hit anybody or anything. Make it around these few one-way streets and end up getting towards a freeway exit, i mean a freeway entrance get onto the freeway it all bottlenecks so i lose most of these cops and uh get on the freeway i pin it and uh as soon as i pin it and i'm moving some uh some guy gets into my lane there was another car next to me i had nowhere to go so the guy just bumps me a little bit but it pops the tire and so i managed to keep it keep it on the road i get off on the first

exit i had uh had some chick with me some ratchet girl that i was with and her actually mom was in the backseat while this is taking place are the how are they hand her she was cool the mom was freaking out like while i'm driving like initially and going through this this pursuit she's freaking out jumping all over the backseat i'm like telling her she like sit the fuck down like i can't see out the rear view here but your fucking see below and so we get off and as soon as i throw it and park the girls out the car and running i'm like good girl like i get out the car i'm running she i think the mom stayed in the car so i'm out i'm running go to a house this first house had barbed wire on a fence. I was like, what the fuck? Hop over this fence, peel, get peeled by this barbed wire a little

bit. And I start hopping fences. I'm running these houses and I'm going to go and make it cut back down to the freeway and I was going to run across the freeway. And then I probably would have had a good chance of getting away. As I get down towards the freeway, I see a whole line of cop cars already there. And I was like, that's not going to work. So I turn around and start belining it back, hopping fences. And as I'm getting close, I start hearing guys coming. And so, I'm in a backyard of a house and I see a crawl space like a little grate underneath the house. So I pull the grate off, shimmy up under this crawl space and under this house. And I'm trying to put the grate on. And like the first time I put it on, it like doesn't go

flush. I'm like, fuck. So I push it off again, trying to get it go on flush. It doesn't go flush. Try like three or four times. The last time it's still not flush, but I just try and like pull it in. Shimmy up underneath the house. I see boots coming in through the holes and everything they come they go they come they go like 15 minutes goes by and they're gone i'm like okay i think i got away and then finally like one pair of boots comes down and so i'm just quiet and he comes down he kind of stops i could see him through the grate the crawl space and he kind of like turns around look i can tell he's like examining it it sees it's not flush and uh gets down pulls it out and gets under there with a flashlight sees finds me with a flashlight oh i found him i found him so

They pull me out, pat me down. I had the key to a Bentley that I was getting ready to go get. Like, this ends up being my sobriety date, October 5th, 2018. So they take me to San Diego jail. 2018. It was not very long ago. I was like, I mean, it's, it's set seven years ago. Yeah, it's almost seven years clean today.

You still got to go to prison. Oh, it gets better. It gets better. So I'm in jail and I'm looking at this case and it's like, felony it's a gta felony resisting felony evading like like like three or four felonies on this case and so i'm in jail and i'm just like at this point i'm like what am i doing bro like this is just nuts like it's it's october so now it's like november my brother's birthday's november 5th remember remember the 5th and november and um the holidays are coming up again and i'm like dude like how many holidays

though I've been locked up for now I like start counting I'm like two out of three three out of four four out of five I was like I don't want to count more than that I could probably keep counting I was like this is stupid I'm like what's going on it was like a light bulb went off on my head and it's like it's your addiction dummy you know and I was like okay and uh I was going to a church service actually in jail and I was in the service and I literally like broke down dude like first time I'd ever really like broke down I was like wow Okay. So I'm in my cell and I'm kind of like talking to God. When I first started doing time, my dad had told me like, you know, you should get into your Bible, man. You should read your

Bible. And so I started reading my Bible when I first get when I was first getting locked up. And so like I started developing that relationship. So I was in my cell and I was just talking to God. And I'm like, God, man, like, what's up, dude? Like, you can't keep doing this. I guess it's crazy. This is this isn't working, man. And I remember him being like, I have something better for you man like stop you know trust me i have something better for you i was like okay i was like all right i'm done like that's it i was like you know it'd be nice if you can give me a program i'll run a program i know how to do it and uh let's just i'll fucking send it and so uh yeah it was really you know working i was really honing in my frequency with god at that point in time and

uh so we go on the court bus to go to court one day and it's looking like this could be when I'm going to get sentenced and talking to God on the bus. I'm like, dude, I talk to God like he's my friend, man, like he's my homeboy. So I'm like, dude, man, like, what's up, man? Like I need some sort of sign from you, God. Like, let me know you're on the team or I'm on the, I'm on your team. And at that point, we passed a church. And I'm like, okay. I'm like, all right. Like, I hear you talking. I was like, but I'm hardheaded, man. I need another sign. Like, what's up? And so we passed a second church. And the second church we passed had a crow on top of the cross and uh i'd always seen my brother like in crows i know there's like a negative

thing with crows and stuff like that but we have a buddy that had overdosed on black and my brother used to say he would see him in crows and then when my brother passed it was the same thing i would see all these crows around my brother has a daughter she ended up finding like a crow's feather on her car and that was before she even knew that i had any sort of thing that was going on with crows she told me like oh i found a crow's feather on on my on the car and like i think that has something to do with angelo so there's a big thing with that so i saw the crow on that cross and i was like all right man like all right let's go so we go to court and uh i was looking at prison time you know for all these felony charges and

the judge goes uh there was no offer of a program at all and the judge goes you know what he's like for some reason i feel like i want to offer this guy a program i was like what he was like how would you feel about would you be interested in taking a drug program a residential program and you got to go to outpatient afterwards, et cetera, et cetera. And I was like, absolutely, 100%. So I got the program. And I had seen guys be successful in a program. You have to, they had to fully submerge themselves in it.

And so it was like, I volunteered for everything. I was volunteering to help out. I was volunteering to go on these estate sales. I was doing the landscaping on the places. He got to the point where they would just call the house where I was at and be like, hey, we need Anthony. And I would just go. So things are going really well.

in the program. Getting ready to graduate the program. Move on to the outpatient. They were going to ask me to be a house manager for one of the outpatient houses. And it was two days before my birthday. I had, my birthday is May 24th. On May 20th, I had gotten, I had gone to the dentist to get some implants done. I had a couple back teeth that were bad. I had a front tooth that was on a flipper because I'd had my front teeth knocked out back in the day. And so I went to go get four implants. It was three quarters of the cost of doing the whole thing. So we decided to do the whole upper arc. So that day had the surgery on the 20th. It was a Monday. Extracted all my upper teeth, put this upper arc implant in. And so I'm looking like a chipmunk. My face is all swollen.

It was two days after that. It was on a Wednesday. So I was kind of not really feeling too well. and I'm at the house and I was laying in the bed and I remember I got in this feeling man I had this feeling like something's not right so I go into the house and I eat I go I heat up a bowl of oatmeal I'm eating this oatmeal and the lady comes in and says that I have a visitor

and like it's Wednesday man you don't have visitors on one days I stand up I look out the window and it's a bunch of black vehicles and I was like shit so I sit back down some guy comes walking in with a badge around his neck and says he's a U.S. Marshal and I was like he says he's a U.S.

marshal if i'm anthony i said yeah he says i have a federal federal warrant for you i was like what does that mean he's like that means you have to come with us i was like man can i call my attorney he's like yeah when you get in the car i was like okay so they go they take me they don't let me take any of my meds from my mouth like any of this rinse all my antibiotics and nothing um called the attorney in the car and he's like yeah it's all bad i'm like what do you mean all bad he's like i don't know what's going on yet but it's not good um so it turns out that that that girl that I had a bad feeling about which was then a few years prior

ended up being an undercover and it was a control buy she made for me I guess apparently I was done screwing around done selling dope and I guess they figured they had to get me for something that was the only thing they had me on so got me for a controlled buy two ounces which is just over the feds 50 gram minimum

for picking it up or for the buy if there's a distribution charge for either crystal or black over 50 grams it can carry a 10-year mandatory minimum so they just keep doing the buys and putting the buys until they've got enough to give you yeah the hit hit the minimum yeah or what or whatever else you the first time yeah so uh i contact a friend of the family is jan ronis he's uh he he defended like the ariano brothers and a bunch of big time cartel people he's a super attorney there in San Diego and um he was a friend of the family so I called talk to jan and I'm like what's up and he's like he's like he's like you're burnt dude like you've got nothing coming if you sign we would they won't impose the mandatory minimums I'm like what does that mean he's like you'll get less than 10 I'm like I'm like like like like 2 8 5 he's like don't know he's like signed and you'll get less than 10 if you don't you're screwed so I signed they ended up giving me 77 months for two ounces dope and um which was tough because you know

I had already been done I had almost a year clean and I was like but I took accountability for it something I did take responsibility for it I think that only when somebody takes responsibility for something in life can they then make a change for it you know they can make a change otherwise if you stay in a victim mentality you're giving the power away right so took responsibility for it and I knew how to do time like I've been doing time for a while. So I was like, I'm just going to go in here and work on my personal development. So got in there, started. I went, went to college through correspondence. I got a degree. I started tracking my macros, tracking all my nutrition longhand, got the math equation and started tracking all my

food. I got under 10% body fat. Where did you do your time? In the feds, I ended up doing, there was a, like, while you're waiting to get sentenced, I ended up doing about like eight months 10 months in Orange County Jail. They have a contract with the feds for U.S. marshals holdover. Yeah. Yeah, until you're sentenced. And so then I got the ARDAP program, residential drug abuse program.

And so in the Western region, there was only a couple of facilities that had it. There was one in Colorado. And then there was one in Oregon at Sheridan. So I ended up doing, I was designated and did all my time at FCI Sheridan, the medium there. I was there with that dude, big me, she was in my unit. Right. Yeah, he's, he's a pretty cool dude. He's all right.

He runs a good program. He's a good dude. How was, uh, how was art at? Uh, it was, it was a shit show, man. You got, you got, it was so backed up from COVID and then backed up from guys that don't get the time off because they would still get a few months extra half by half. Exactly. So it was backed up. Didn't start when I was supposed to start.

I didn't start until like almost a year too late. So I didn't end up. getting all of the time for off that I should have for ARDAP and then uh then I got more halfway house time um then also I was um eligible for the first step act so I took all these first step act classes for the four and a half years that I was there racked up all these point credits for it and didn't get any of my first step back stuff um and everybody just because they hadn't implemented the only a few guys were getting it it was really odd it would seem like they were really picking and choosing who got the first step

at credit right um it was a very strict criteria of guys that were getting it it was a specific race and it was just didn't i don't know it seemed very odd um but uh was uh it was a it was a shit show man everybody in there was getting high you know i think there was like maybe one percent of the guys weren't getting high one percent of the guys actually wanted to make change everybody's just faking the funk to you know get through yeah yeah Yeah, faking your way through the program. Yeah. What is it?

There's like seven, is there six or seven different things that they say? Like one is faking it through and then they've got a bunch of, it's basically, it's like a list of things that people say about the program. Okay. I did it twice. Oh, okay. I never graduated.

Oh, no? No. I would. I was a mentor in the program. Oh, yeah. I would go in. I would go in and stay because they would put a management variable on me. I had a management variable too.

Yeah, that way, because they wanted to move me to a camp. But I would just stay in the low because the low was an hour drive for my mom to come see me. Okay. And so if you get, if they move me to a camp, it's the closest one's four hours, maybe five hours. It depends on, you know, it was like Miami or like like, uh, Tallahassee or something. Like my mom will never make it. She's in a wheelchair. So I kept going in the program.

They put the man, but they wouldn't put it on right away. It'd be months. And I'm like, where I'd go see my counselor. What is the management variable? They'd be like, no, not yet. And then maybe six months in, he came to me one day. He's like, hey, they got it on you. I was like, great, I signed out of the program.

And then three months later, my new counselor, because they move you back to the old unit. My new counselor comes in and says, Cox, we're going to move you to, I got to put you in for a camp. No, for a camp. And I was like, no, no, no, no, I said, I. got a management variable. It's good for a year. They go, yeah, but we can request it to be taken off. I'm like, you can? Like, I'd always heard it was good for a year. And they're like, yeah,

but you're not really supposed to be here. You should be at a camp. You got to get a shot, man. You got to get a shot and get your points up. No, I, oh, even then it wouldn't. It wouldn't. I came in with like two points. Oh, man. And by that, and that was because I had a, I had a hold from a state charge that they dropped. So when I got that dropped, I'm down to like one or zero. Oh, wow. I should be And, you know, at a camp. So anyway, so I go back in the program. Like, it just happened to be, you had to be out of the program 90 days before you could reapply. And it just at 90, they were going to move me.

I'm like, oh, you can't move me. I'm going back at the program. And that locks you in. And then I would go back in the program, stayed there again until they put the management variable and drop back back off just to stay at the low. Yeah. But it was, you're right, that program was a shit. You're right.

It is a shit show. Yeah. But I thought it was a great program. It is a good program. You can't, even if you fake your weight, even if you're faking it, you're going to learn something, you know? Yeah. So I always thought it was, you know, and even I learned something. I pulled a lot from the program.

Yeah, I thought it was good. Yeah, like, everybody knew, like, I was sober and I, like, was getting ready to, like, just do better in life. And so they had asked me to be a mentor in the program. And so I took it, I did it, you know, so I ended up, it was kind of funny. I was mentor on the program. So I was running a lot of stuff. I'd be up, you know, running the panel. You know, they have the panel up there and everything.

So in the morning meetings and stuff. And so I had gotten the point where I was, that guy, Jocko Willink has a book like Discipline equals Freedom, which is a pretty solid, solid book just on no excuses and just manning up in the situation. And so I'd be up at this podium reading Discipline equals Freedom to this unit full of guys, which was kind of funny, which later ended up being a pretty, funny uh pretty funny story um so i'm in there uh going through that i was in ardap and just kind of towards the end of it actually was i was like 60 days to the house and uh i think they were they were

doing something where they came in the unit they had come into the uh it kicked off next door and so they had came into our unit to lock everybody down and i think a couple of the guys had like you know in ardap it's a it's a real shit show there was guys doing stuff that you don't normally do so i think a couple of guys had cat called a couple of the female deputies and so the captain had came in and we're all locked down started saying every you know started telling everybody hey can't be cat calling the deputies da da da da da da da and some of the guys start kicking their doors and uh somebody yelled out called the captain and the captain was like okay he's like all right cool he's like fine so they leave the next we're locked down we're locked down the rest of the night the next

morning they come in deep you know deep they pull all of us out of ourselves they take us up to wreck and they're going to trash our unit so uh we're up at the unit we come back i go upstairs my unit my cell was up in the corner so i go up to myself my cell was i you know picked my cell my cell was you know wax floor you know clean cell new paint had everything painted and uh there was we had these big mirrors where we were at um i don't know if you guys had those big like i don't know three by two foot mirror that was in a low so we had shared you everybody it was a communal bathroom oh okay you don't have it there's no cells yeah you were at a medium yeah yeah yeah cell living yeah you had dorm living yeah yeah so in our cell we had this big mirror

above our sink and um i come back into the cell and there's like dust all over the sink and then i look down and i see like big chunks of concrete like like like that big and i was like whoa i was like I'm so I back out of my cell immediately and I go and the captain's on the tier and I've seen the captain we've had a couple interactions like most of the people that are on the yard they know the kind of program I run I'm like hey captain I need to take a look at something like before I go in here I'm not taking you know any responsibility for chunks of concrete and he walks in the cell and he goes oh oh yeah he goes you had a safe behind your wall and I was like what he's like yeah he's like they're probably going to give you a shot for it um you know right up and uh and I was like

what are you talking about and so he's like you you'll you know you'll come up yeah and I'm like wow so close the door I sure enough end up getting a couple of shots I got a shot for the safe which was a I think it was a it was either it was it was it might have been a 100 series shot or a 200 series shot and then in the in the hole apparently were two loose pieces of rebar and so they wrote those up as a weapon shot yeah and then also a as a tool that can be used for for an escape. I had like 200 series shots and like a 200 series and like a and one 200 series shot. And the way these shots were written, I was looking at I could have got an extra time for that and lost all my, you know, lost the hard out everything. And so it was a real shit show.

I'm like I'm like here by that point in time. I'm like 45 days to house because everything was like it was in the limbo like I knew nothing about it. I'm like I'm like and it's a soft yard anyways. I'm like nobody I didn't need anything to walk this yard man you know what I mean you got like you got uh chomo's walking around that you can't touch you know all sorts of you know all sorts of stuff I just stayed with my blinders on you know what I mean and um I'm like here I am you know almost you know 30 days to the house and I'm looking like I could lose all my time here get extra time it was crazy I ended up having a bunch of dudes write a sign a letter saying that like that's, you know, the kind of person that I am.

I even had a couple of the counselors do some stuff. And so long story short, it ended up getting kicked out. It ended up getting kicked out. But man, it was crazy. I was going through it. Like didn't want to tell my family that I was like, you know, they're expecting me to come home. And it was like looking like I could have, I could have gotten like extra 18 months for that. So it was crazy.

So I ended up getting out and went to the halfway house. I remember the first night I get to the halfway house. Some guys overdosing in the bathroom. And I'm like, this is a real shit. Everybody's in the bathroom, smoking spies, epion in and out. And find out that two weeks prior, some guy overdosed and died in the bathroom. You know, it's just a real, I mean, it was worse than inside this halfway house. I know.

That's what everybody says. I mean, I was in that way. Same thing, the halfway house. what I didn't like about the halfway house is there was so much overwhelming interaction with the staff and the staff just seemed to hate you like they they seemed like they wanted to violate you and send you back to prison it's like what this one this one was like the staff would have a lot of interactions and apparently the staff was bringing in a lot of dope and all sorts of stuff at this place that I was at so luckily I just followed like I talked to my case manager like

what do you need me to do because I was trying to get home confinement and so I did everything I needed to do like just bam bam paperwork dot dot dot dot dot dot i got home confinement within like three weeks which was cool so got out of there went to home confinement started working i'd get up early go to the gym at like 2 30 i was got a job with the iron workers union because there's a bunch of union guys at the halfway house so i started wrenching on iron do that all day long i'd go do jujitsu in the afternoon and then i'd go home eat and go to sleep and uh did that for about about six months started going to this one jujitsu gym it turned out to be that guy jaco's gym a buddy of mine that i know from the san die scene he's also a big jiu jitsu guy seeing him and me and him started talking and

jaco ends up walking up to me and i'm like hey i'm like excuse me sir i'm like i'll let you know like a lot of your stuff that you've written has really helped me kind of changed my life and i was actually in federal prison like reading you know discipline equals freedom to this whole unit full of guys and he was like oh that's cool man i was like yeah badass so kind of i developed a little bit of relationship with him uh he's a pretty well-known guy um he was a seal team guy stuff like that yeah i've seen him on a bunch of podcasts yeah you know he is yeah he's actually a pretty good dude he's actually pretty good guy's daughter i've met his daughter she teaches like the kids class um pretty good people uh things just start going really good for me man i had a um when i was in there

reading I read a lot of stuff like all our military guys and I realize there's like a lot of parallels there you guys are I mean even stemming from when they're kids a lot of guys have had issues when they were kids whether you want to call it trauma or something like that there's that issue in childhood and then guys get into go that direction or some guys go in another direction then an identity kind of gets placed on us for whatever direction we go you know the whole identity of being a part of, you know, serving or then this whole lifestyle that that I went down, uh, then getting locked up, stuff like that. You're spending a lot of time away from family. A lot of guys have issues with addiction. Uh, there's a whole transitioning

back into society. There's a lot of parallels there. And I started picking up on that stuff. So I was reading a lot of military stuff. And I just kind of, you know, it was the direction I wish I had gone in life. Like I think that would have been badass to get into like some top tier organization and do some stuff like that that's what I wish I would have done um so I'm reading all that stuff and I was thinking I was like well when I get out to be pretty cool if I could find uh you know some military guys to work with or just work out with and so uh get out get out and um ended up becoming some friends with a buddy of mine who's on the seal teams and uh ends up taking me over to their advanced training sitter I was doing a combatant class with the seal

team guys and um things just started going going pretty good I was just making the right choices and uh really wanted to meet my wife so i got on a few dating apps from christian dating apps because that's kind of where it was at for me and the chicks turned out to be all weirdos and not very christian like and uh so i was like great man i'm i'm going to meet her in the wild you know maybe at church you know and uh my buddy was like one guy first started socializing with um his name's ray and so he was on this other dating app he's like just try this one i'm like okay So I get on there and I blasted. I'm like clean, sober, you know, don't call me for a hookup.

My faith is number one to me, you know, something, something. And so I came across this girl and hers was like faith was number one too and a bunch of other similarities. So I was like, okay, we started talking. We go on a date or two. We date for about four or six weeks and I ended up proposing to her. So we ended up getting married a few months later since I come with priors, you know, her family was her family's like you know a little hesitant they're like nah this guy's not really good you know

I told her on our second date that I'd been locked up and everything and she was solid she didn't fold she didn't break nothing and so she stood up against her family she was just like well I guess we should probably just elope because my family right now whatever I'm like okay babe it sounds good a couple days later she's like hey you know what she's like let's jump out of an airplane and get married I'm like okay babe and she's like yeah we can like say our vows in the airplane or maybe like when we land and I'm like I'm like wait a minute like you're serious right she's like yeah absolutely and I'm like oh shit had you ever skydye fuck no man so I was like shit she's like you want let's I was like all right let's do it is this tandem like yeah yeah it's our first time so

yeah I'm like all right babe let's do it so she like lines it all up gets it all set up and so we the pastor from my church who um is a pretty cool dude he's he's all blasted up he uh has had an interesting story himself he uh he was our officiant he was on the ground i was trying to get him to jump i'm like hey dude i'm like come jump with us man he's like i'm not doing that he's like i'll be on the ground i was like bro come on and he's not doing it like all right so we go we get up in the plane we jump that shit was badass bro it was pretty cool i really enjoyed it she jumps too we uh both jump with our cowboy boots on land peel my shirt off put my cowboy hat on and uh say our vows right there on this field it was pretty cool man so uh they they do it not far from here okay yeah the first time

i ever uh did this it was i had told i met a guy i met this is when i was like 20 i was maybe 20 21 and i worked at a gold gym while i was going to school just like part time and this guy had came in and i noticed he had uh two like scars right here just a little and then i I'd seen him and then one day I noticed he had two in the back of that. I said, bro, you got, you got scars in the front in the back. He said, oh, yeah, I had to wear a halo for like 18 months. I went, for what? He said, I skydive.

I jumped out and the parachute. He explained that his parachute. Snap. Yeah, well, something went wrong. And then he leaned back with his reserve shoot. He said, because you got a reserve. He said, so I was going to be okay. He said, but I leaned back too far when it opened, it got caught up in the other shoot.

He said, I should have cut it away. Yeah. But he said, by the time. it all kind of happened. He said, I didn't really feel like I had enough time. Anyway, so he hit the ground like 100 miles an hour. He said, but it was in like a swampy area. And he stuck.

He didn't bounce. He said, so I was okay, except I did break my spine, 18 months. I was like, wow, bro, I said, but I should never do that again. He goes, oh, no, no, the day I got it off, I jumped again. Are they serious? So he had told me, like, you should come. I got a buddy who's got, he's got a plane is you don't have to go through the tandem thing. you can just jump with us.

Yeah. And I was like, absolutely, bro. Give me your phone number. Let's go. I never call that, dude. Ah. And, but I told the girl I was dating at this time. And so one day it was my birthday.

And I remember my parents had gone to Europe for like two weeks. And it was my birthday. And my girlfriend was like, when you come home, you know, come home, what time are you going to be home? I was like, okay, that's good. That's got to go, what are we doing? What are we doing? You know, she's like, oh, don't worry about it.

Don't worry about it. I get home. She has me put on my shoes. Make sure you have blue jeans. you have this we get in the car we're driving like where are we going and she's skydiving and my first thought was um i didn't tell my mom goodbye broke i mean like i was that like oh my god i didn't like i didn't kiss my mom you know when she left or whatever it was like they went usually i dropped them off of that and i hadn't seen her before and i just thought oh my god and the whole time i

kept thinking she won't jump she won't jump so we get in the plane and listen this chick This is just like, she was a tomboy, just like my wife. And we got up there and I got, you get numb. I got numb. Like I was, by the time I got up there, I was just numb. Like they're like, all right, step forward. You step forward. Do this.

Do this. Stay here. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And I'm just completely numb. And she's going before me. And I thought she won't go. She's going to stop.

And then I'm going to be like, yeah, bro, I'm not going. I'm not going. And then she gets up and they roll the roof up, you know, and it's cold. You know, because you're up so high. and she's got, you know, we're tandem. There's somebody, you know, there's a guy who's, he's at the parachute, by the way. You don't have shit. You're just strapped on.

And she leaned forward, and I remember things, she won't do it. She won't do it. And she looked at me, she goes, and, like, practically yanked the guy out. And I thought, oh, I have to go. I have to go. Like, I don't care if I die. I can't not go now. Like, I'll hit the ground.

I don't give a fuck, but I can't, this chick will never let me live this down if I don't go. So then I had to go. And I mean, listen, I, I, was fucking the whole way down I was terrified you're sitting here like wasn't it great no but keep on i did do it probably five or six times after that okay um and when i got out of prison it's one of the first and got out of halfway house one of the first things i did well i went skydiving but same thing have you done solo yet or no all ten and i had done it like five times and you had to do it five times and take a class and you go solo well it's got to be a guy with you right but he's not attached to you right

And then they'd pull it. Yeah. Right. But by that point, the FBI had shown up and I had to take off on the run. And so I didn't want to. But I had bigger problems. But yeah, I was numb. Completely numb.

And you jumped out. Yeah. It was like, yeah, it was sketchy. Like when the plane, we're in a small Cessna or whatever. So it was like, I'm sitting by the door. Like one leg is literally hanging out, hanging out of the airplane. And when we're taking off. And I was like, uh, so we take off.

And like, as we take off, when we were kind of low, it was kind of sketchy you know i'm like the wind's pulling on my leg i'm like well this thing just like pulls me out of the fucking plane and uh but once we got up to like altitude and got up pretty high it wasn't that bad i'm like okay this is a little more peaceful and uh even worse when you're up high now i can see how and you don't realize you're looking down the clouds look like they're this yeah they look like they're this far off the ground just like we're so far up the clouds look like they're an inch away from the ground that's how far and it's freezing and it's freezing it's so cold up there yeah yeah and uh yeah i just was like i just knew it was something i was

going to do and um the guy the guy was actually pretty cool that i jumped with as we're as we're hooking us up the guy's like the guy i'm getting hooked up to he's like hey you work out at war house and i'm like i'm like what he's like yeah i work out there too i'm like oh okay cool man so it's like it turned out to be a small community the guys that own my gym they all jump uh the dude that i was getting hooked up to he was a swick guy which was like um there are like boat support for the seal teams and so he jumps all the time and so so i'm talking with him and so i'm hooked up to him and as we're up in there uh we go and as you have to like scoot towards the edge of the plane so we like scoot towards the edge my legs are hanging off

and then they were like you need to tuck your chin and uh and then we'll roll out well he'll push us out and so like i remember i get to the edge but for some reason i'm like putting my head back I'm like, oh, so you're like, I tuck my chin. And this dude, he like literally rolls us out of the plane, like rolls us and has us like tumble and stuff. Because I guess he knows what he's doing. You know, he's, and so we tumble a little bit. Yeah. And then pulled it.

I mean, tumbled and then we flattened out. And it was pretty, it was pretty gnarly. You know what I mean? But I think falling in my dream is way sketchier than skydiving. For some reason, like falling in my dream was way worse than skydiving, hands down. But, yeah, free falling was pretty gnarly. And then once you pulled the shoot, it was kind of like, at that point, it's pretty easy sailing from that point.

At that point, I just want to get, I just want to get home. I just want to get down. Like, they're like, hey, you want to do some loop-de-lop? Absolutely not. Yeah, they had to do anything crazy. Pull on the thing. Pull on the, yeah, do some loops. Yeah.

Yeah, it was nice, dude. Got married. So it was awesome, man. And just life is just, it was like, at that point in time, I had almost done what I'm doing now. So I got out of prison. And I got out and I had the mindset of wanting to be a service. Like I kind of wanted to give back.

Like I wanted to, if there's some kids I can help from going down all this, the road I went down. Like, that's cool, you know. So I had that mentality. And the guy, the first guy that I started socializing with that I mentioned earlier, Ray, the guy told me about the other dating app. He was like, there's some dudes online that are helping coach other guys into like, you know, giving back, helping them out, helping guys get over addiction. coaching on like fitness nutrition because i've been i was really about you know i've been about my workout and my nutrition and everything like that so took a look at it and i was like eh you know i don't know i was working with for the family restaurants i'd moved up i'd like managed

the location then i got into operations and working with family was difficult you know it's like to me it's like jobs needed to get done and it's like people are taking it personal and it's like look this isn't personal this is a job like this needs to happen like we need this needs to get done, you know. And so that was challenging. And so it's not something I really wanted to have long term. And so I saw this opportunity and I was like, shit, I'm going to just do it. So I just literally had jumped online. I hadn't been on any social media. When I got out, I wasn't on Facebook or anything. So I started an Instagram page and started putting it out there that I was going to be coaching guys. I had taken on a couple of mentors to help me kind of with the with the platform.

like with the blueprint of how it's set up you know the training apps everything else and so i just jumped in and started doing it man um and actually it got off to a pretty good start uh start has gone pretty well i've started working with a bunch of guys initially it was a bunch of guys blue collar guys with addiction issues stuff like that um today it's now morphed into where i'm working with a lot of uh active or retired military guys um a lot of uh first responders i got like fire department guys on there actually got a couple of guys from the LA County Sheriff's Department on the team recently okay how funny is that talk about coming for full circle man but it's cool it's just a program for men that's just like

helping to just level up it's like foundations on like fitness and nutrition and then it gets into like mindset stuff and so it's been really cool man I've had guys come to me one guy came to me Jory man he hit me up like in the middle of like a mental breakdown he's a union worker makes makes really good money. He was like, dude, I have no money in my bank account. He's like, I'm on my way to a job. He's like, I just did some lines of powder before I got on the plane and had a few drinks. He's like, I have this drug and alcohol problem. He's like, I need help. I was like, all right, dude. So I like talked him through it. Got him on the program,

charged a credit card. That day, the next day, he was sober. Now today he's got like 10 months clean and sober. He's got rid of this huge belly that he had. Now he's like, jacked he's ripped he's got a six-pack um he's working killing work just everything's changed his whole life man so it's been pretty cool being able to work and help guys like see them change their whole change their whole life man um so that's basically what i'm doing now um and it's i mean it's to where i'm talking to a lot of high up people in the industry man um i come in contact recently with a company, a core medical group. They do a lot of like TRT, HRT stuff.

The founder has become a really good friend of mine. And just a lot of doors are opening. I'm working with a veteran organization. They're going to start fundraising money to send for me all my funnel guys for the program. I was just say we've interviewed. Taylor Kavanaugh. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

That's how I think we got hooked up was T-CAP. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. reached out to me he was like i started doing what i'm doing and like i've seen teacab on on youtube and everything and this dude hits me up he sends me a dm i'm like oh shit and he's like yeah i see what you're doing man i love what you're doing man he's like keep it up i'm like he's got the crazy is it is it the platinum or gold is it gold yeah yeah i never you know and i don't think i ever asked him there was something that i remember when he left i thought man i never asked

what was going on with like the teeth or something. I forget what I didn't I didn't ask. He's in Miami, right? No, he, he's actually out, he's not far from where I'm at. He's in California. Oh, okay. He's on the move all the time, though. I thought he was in Miami.

I thought he was in Miami because I think he, oh, no, I only thought that because he was connected with West Watson at somehow. Somehow, no, he had initially started with West Watson. Yeah, I worked with West. as well. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah. So yeah, TCAv reached out to me. A few guys that are big in the, in the, uh, military community, uh, I've reached out to me. A guy, uh, Cody Alford reached out to me. He's a really good dude. We've become pretty close friends. And, uh, it's just, it's just kind of climbing up, man. It's just, uh, the community and network I have today is just awesome. Like,

I've started working on, uh, some of my expungement. And so I've been getting like character recommendation letters from a lot of these like top tier military organization guys guys that are highly decorated um i've even gotten a couple letters from guys and three letter agencies uh just stating of who i am today what i'm doing and that that i should have my rights restored so yeah so it's it's pretty cool man it's uh so many good things that started happening man since i've just started since i've stopped messing around it's like life has just gotten a lot you know life is still challenging but life is really good man uh i just can't say i mean there's so many wins that have they've come my way it's just i mean i'm traveling all the time um business is pretty

good i got my wife to be able to uh put in her two weeks at her job so now she's just she doesn't have to do that anymore and so i mean there's been so many wins since i've started turning my life around man it was like i've won jiu jitsu tournaments um i mean there's so many wins dude I just can't even, like, think of all of this stuff. But I mean, no, I mean, I guess I'm pretty good. Anything you want me to touch on? No. No.

I mean, I can't think of anything. I was wondering if you, I only just curious just for my own personal interest is that if you ever go back into prisons or have you done any talks in prisons or anything like that. No, that's actually one of the things. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, I was talking to, uh, Jason Reddy. is now a friend of mine as well seal team six guy guy had his face blown off pretty popular guy jason redmond he's a friend of mine i've met him through the stuff that i've been

doing with core medical group and uh uh i was talking with him we're commenting back and forth on instagram and um he was doing something with a book review from a lady from fox news i think her last name was like companion or something like that and so she reached out to me and has gotten me connected with prison ministries and their director of California. So I'm going to work on doing that to where I can go in and speak at some prisons or juvenile facilities, stuff like that. Yeah, I always thought about that going. I mean, it'd be cool to go back to Coleman.

I'm not sure if that's something they let you do. You go back to federal prison. But, I mean, I know that there's the church that we go to, my wife and I, they, every time you're there, they talk about how they have this. program and this, and they have a prison outreach program where they go into prisons and they this. We sent them like two emails saying, hey, we're both former felons. We're married. We go to the church. We'd love to talk to you about participating in the program. Never returned an email. I'm starting to feel like maybe that's just something you guys are saying, but now that

you've got somebody saying, hey, we'd love to be a part of it. They're like, we don't want to start doing this. No. I mean, I don't know exactly what it is or maybe the person running. It's not just not very responsive but that's too bad yeah but i always thought that'd be cool to be able to go in and say for sure hey i was in your situation you know i did 13 years i got out i had nothing you know like this is not impossible yeah absolutely obviously you know you get out well you've been out multiple times but nobody well i don't know what is like in california but in florida nobody's making it easy yeah you know what i'm saying they're not making it easy to you know oh we want you to be a good person and get a regular job and be a yeah but you're

making it harder and harder and harder for me to do that. And then they complain about recidivism, oh, because these guys are such bad guys. Well, it also might be that there's really very few, if any, programs to help me. Yeah. You know, a lot of the guys, too, from state prison, a lot of these guys, like, they're like, yeah, there's no halfway houses or the halfway houses are so crowded that you're getting a month or two months. Or they just, oh, you didn't do enough time. You know, you can't get in the halfway house or you have a violent charge. They won't take you. Or it's like, okay, well, what are you?

You're, I'm getting out with nothing. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. Like there's no gate money. Yeah. It's, you know, California is a little bit different since California is a little more. Liberal. A little more.

Yeah. A little more, whatever you want to call it. So, I mean, there are, there are, but it's not easy. It's, it's difficult to, there are programs. There are some resources. So, but they don't, they don't. they don't make it they don't give you a good blueprint to follow like there's you really have to work for it and really try and if somebody really wants to make a change then i think they're capable of

doing so but it's it's yeah it's not easy there are some resources out there i didn't really get many resources at all um but you have to be you have to rehabilitate yourself absolutely inside inside you cannot expect 100% and i mean that and i think that's that's huge is that you have to to make that decision. And if you make that decision, then you can start preparing way before. And I was, you know,

you can always tell the, the idiots that are like in there and they're like, yeah, well, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to do this when I get out. I'm going to do it.

Well, I'm going to start when I get out. You're going to start when you get out. Well, how can't go on the internet now? I can write a letter. Yeah. Well,

who's going to respond? If you write 40 letters, somebody will respond. Yeah. I was picking. So like when I was in Ardap, one of the DTSs is there was a pretty sharp guy. he had like a he had a he had a master's and all sorts of stuff and it was like really that he was

just there because that's what he wanted to do and he'd been there for like 20 years and so i was like i'm gonna pick this dude's brain man and so i'm like i pull him i would talk to him all the time and i'd be i'd find out like why like how who were the people that didn't come back who were the people that came back why would they come back or why wouldn't they come back and so i got a pretty good like thorough blueprint from him but a lot of it was like you were just talking about it's uh have a plan guys that don't have a plan were the guys that would come back guys that had a plan guys that were already working on a plan were guys that didn't come back yeah there's a lot of good stuff i got from that guy um yeah there were i was say there were guys you could tell the guys that like

had somebody go out and buy like i knew a guy that his family bought him his brother was had gone to prison got out now he's a welding inspector he can't weld he's not a welder he just inspects but these guys make like 60, 70, 80 bucks an hour in California, and they're working 50 hours a week, 60 hours a week because, you know, and they take the jobs they want. They say, oh, I can't work this. I can't. But his brother's working 50, 60 hours a week. He, he, for a year beforehand, he must have read this book. This is a big book. He must have read it like four times. Got out, took the state test, passed the test. Boom. He said a week later, I already got jobs. Two, three weeks later, he's like, I'm already working, you know, 40, 50 hours a week. And he's, and he's, he's,

making you know a hundred and whatever 180 thousand dollars a year and you're like that it's insane this guy hit the ground right but he knew a year prior to that yeah some i mean there's even there's opportunities man like like even at the halfway house like there's guys there that are all working jobs like especially guys that are like in union jobs like i was able to i had a little bit of construction experience you know um and so the one guy that was part of the ironworkers union i just was talking to him and he was like yeah just go over to the ironworkers union so i just went over there and they had me tie up a couple pieces of rebar which was not very difficult and got a job in the ironworkers union and i was starting off at like 30 bucks an hour plus like six dollars an hour vacation pay yeah and then that

would move up like after like 90 days or something so i mean there would be their stuff available but guys really got to want it man they got to want that change like if they don't want it well if you go you know if you what was it um uh uh derrick does he do what he does a plumbing he's a plumber right a buddy of mine that was locked up probably got probably eight or nine years at least uh got out and he does uh plumbing i mean he does construction stuff too in plumbing but plumbers you make good money in florida oh yeah it's like 150 000 a year you can make being a plumber and if you're an assistant even if it most guys they don't want me to get this job i'm not even making a thousand dollars a week what the fuck bro you were in

fucking prison two weeks ago or six months ago so fucking what living someone I live in somebody's, I lived in a rooming house for 18 months. Yeah. You know? Like, you can live in a rooming house. Well, I got to get out and I got to help my kids. Your kids are, you've been locked up eight years. You think six more months so that you can become a plumber's helper and take the test

and become a plumber. Well, your kids are going to have to sacrifice another year. Yeah, guys. It's just excuses. It's just excuses. And that's the whole thing that kind of like it gets me back to. Like, I totally like, that's where I like really understood or got like the impression. It's like, unless you own something, unless you,

take responsibility of something you're not going to change it like guys like that they're stuck in that victim state they don't take responsibility for any of it you know what i mean and they have no change and they keep doing the same dumb shit haven't you ever heard this one like dang bro you let them lock you up for 10 years yeah man those people locked you up i locked me up absolutely i got myself here nobody made me commit fraud nobody made me do yeah oh this dude snitched on me and it would you you you fucking you you you bought the dope from them you gave him you rob you the bank with him like yeah of course he didn't want to you don't want to go to jail he don't want to do 10 years he wants to do five you can do his five you know what I'm saying like you're the one the fucked up you shouldn't have given an opportunity to do that absolutely so I would see these guys dang bro they give you all that time they get yeah but they but I was supposed to be in prison I'm supposed to be here yeah you know like you're so fucked up society said you can't live with us anymore you know you that but that's because of you you know that it was definitely me like And I think that it's funny because the moment you start saying that it's my fault, I'm here, that I did this.

Oh, no, the judge or my lawyer sucks. Man, you put yourself in prison, like man up and you did it. You went to prison. You're going to do some time. You're going to get out. It's going to suck. You're going to live in someone's spare room. You might live in a car.

It's going to suck. Suck it up. You know, go buy yourself some shitty Walmart clothes and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, dig ditches until you can be a plumber's helper or an electrician's helper and build it. And then you're making 100, then you can three years from now you make it 150 bucks 150,000 a year. Doctors make about 130. Yeah. Lawyers are making 120. You know what I'm saying? It's like, and you don't have any student loan debt. Yeah. This one's kind of good. My, my cellmate, I just realized, we still rolling

or no. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, my cellmate, I realized he just got locked back up this kid. He was a country kid from Utah he had a psychotic episode he had done a bunch of Adderall had been up and ended up unloading an AR 10 out of 18 wheeler um he got a bunch of time for it he got shot up by bia agents because it was on reservation land um so but he's um he like i saw he was a good kid so i like made him my celly he's a good kid they had them all hopoped up on a bunch of psych meds and so we got him to get off the psych meds came around his good kid um and but he has this girl that he had been dating you know she was like a prostitute but she doesn't do that anymore allegedly and and I'm like bro this girl's bad and like you got to stay away from this

girl and he just wants to he keeps talking to this girl and I'm telling I'm like bro like you got to stay away from this girl like some and he's not having it he's going to continue his relationship with a girl when he gets out he'll continue it and I'm like all right bro I'm like I was like dude I bet you five thousand bucks like I bet you five thousand dollars a serious bet that like if you go down this road with this girl something bad is going to happen and he was like okay bet i'm like okay cool and so i just get a contacted from his mom a few weeks ago saying that now he's back in prison that there was an incident with this girl uh they got into it something happened uh cops got called now he's got a uh state case this domestic case with his girl she dropped it but the state

picked it up now the feds are on top of his well the feds were holding him now he's going to have a violation with the feds and uh yeah i got a message from his mob saying like hey brad wanted me to tell you that that uh you won the bet he owes you five thousand bucks and uh it's just horrible man it's like guys i don't understand why guys make just such boneheaded decisions man it's like the biggest thing is just like once i finally got out of my own way yeah other say i think it's it's pride like every bad decision i've ever made was just based on my pride ego pride go yeah 100% Yeah, every single time. Yeah, I've been watching some stuff recently with a because, you know, I'm in San Diego and so it's not far from me where there's a bunch of nonsense going on in California. Yeah, yeah. And one of my buddies, once guy got on, he's been talking about, he's like, hey, look, man, don't let your ego get involved. If something happens, just get away from the situation. Don't be stupid. Don't do something. You know what I mean? Because it's just, you know, end up getting in trouble. It's not worth it. So, yeah. but the ego thing is I think that's the biggest problem with men I think my brother even had an issue with that like his ego got pretty big that girl that he was dating that I didn't approve of you know she fluffed his ego up so big like that was a huge contributor to what happened with him she's so bad after he passed she ends up showing up a couple days later because she wasn't in town when when everything took place shows up with a U-Haul cleans out the whole place takes takes every

stuff that's that was mine included um and then the place that he was staying at she took all the appliances she took like like a straight tweaker bro you cleaned it cleaned out the place bro took the fridge took all the appliances everything and it was like you know my family ended up having to cover all the charges for all the appliances and everything it was just like she was all bad bro she was so bad that like i would tell my brother like hey she's a tweaker and she tell him that she's not And yet she would be coming to me to buy dope off of me. I'm like, bro, I'm selling her dope. Like, are you going to tell me that she's not like crazy, dude?

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