Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Meet The Chris Hansen of Social Media | Alex Rosen

Episode Date: May 30, 2023

Meet The Chris Hansen of Social Media | Alex Rosen

You know, there was a guy in Oregon named Fred Hendricks Jr. who he got. He was so calm for eight months. Like, you know, they all, there's one reason he's texting an eight-year-old, right? Like, I was just like, dude, just get to the point already. Like, I was just thinking this, like, come on, man. Oh, this guy was way, like, so depraved. And we ended up getting him. He'd ended up being one of the worst. But I didn't know he was on the sex offender registry. And he just confessed to so many victims. He's currently serving three and a half years in Oregon. Hey, this is Matt Cox, and I am here with Alex Rosen, and he is very much like a, kind of like he runs a channel on Rumble that is very similar to the show that Chris Hanson used to do, which is, you know, which was a hugely popular, and it's basically he's exposing. guys or people I guess in general that do inappropriate things or attempt or say listen but just watch

the video it'll be all right it's worth watching so I had a but I had a guy who mentioned in the comment section hey because people will watch this they'll say well this isn't his tip although this still crime related it's crime related definitely right um but a guy said hey uh you have to check out this guy and he gave me your name and your channel and said you have to check him out he's in florida right now and i was like um okay you know and i i i didn't like i didn't know who you who you were he explained who you were what you did so i screenshot it i sent it to my booking manager and like it was either the same day or the next day he was i got the guy i talked to him he's in florida he can be there either today or

tomorrow and i was like like wow and then we talked and then that was yesterday and then you know you're here today uh and i actually moved some stuff around and uh So, yeah, it's interesting, too, because even still, even then I was like, like, what? I don't understand. Like, who is this? So he sent me the video, and I watched the video of the rental truck video. And the guy had driven, what, several states over? Yeah, I drove from Ohio all the way into Pennsylvania.

It was only like an hour, but like crossing state lines renting a van to do it. I mean, that's pretty insane. To meet, I mean, can I say, it was basically to meet like a. 13 year old and a 9 year old to meet them to um anyway to to see what happened so he but the way you like you know i i've seen these kinds of videos and the guys get out and they're super aggressive and they're just and they're they're super condescending like like a hanson would go in and as soon as he walked in the room he was so condescending he shut the guys shut down right away but you you like walked up said all the appropriate things moot said hey listen to

go ahead and talk outside. You were so non-judgmental that that guy just started just spewing out everything. And I noticed after a while, he kind of started backpedaling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And this isn't, like, I'm saying the wrong things here. And but by then it was way too late. And, I mean, it was just, you know, I even mentioned to Conner, I said, I hope this guy has a sense of humor about this. It's not that it's a funny subject because people get nuts over it,

but it's just the absurdity that these guys and the lengths that they go to. And it's just they're so oblivious to what's happening, what they're doing, that it's wrong. Yeah, it's insane. So how did you get into this? I'm sorry. So basically, I started doing this at 19 years old. I'm 22 years old now. I know you see the hairline and everything, but you got to understand dealing with these people for three years,

seeing all these, you know, pictures sent online that I'm not going to say here because, you know, I care about your channel and stuff like that. But, you know, seeing all of that stuff, I mean, then having a bald dad, you know, it makes me look way older at 22, you know what I mean. But so anyway, I've always wanted to be a police officer. I'm from Houston, Texas. I still live there, sadly. And, you know, so I was playing college football my freshman year at Texas Southern University. And we have three weeks off for summer. Like, you know, we just finished like spring ball.

So we have like three weeks off. And, you know, I was going to bed like at 10 p.m. every single night, waking up at like five to go do the morning workouts and whatnot. And, you know, so I just break all of that for the three weeks of summer. I'm like, oh, finally, I'm going to eat some ice cream now. I'm going to, you know, that I'm still doing it sadly now. But like, you know, just break this, go to sleep at 6 a.m. So I got into like these videos.

and, you know, I was like, this looks really fun to do. This is interesting. I'm like, I got nothing else to do. Like, because, you know, I see the hands in, see all this. I'm like, there's no way. There's so many people going to do it. I'm like, I can't even conceive, like, even, you know, I was at the time 19 years old. I'm like, okay, I can't even go meet like a 15, 14, 16 year old.

You know what I mean? Like, I can't even comprehend this. But, you know, so I was like, let's see how fast this actually happened. So I just throw up a picture on Grindr. It's a gay dating app. And within 30 minutes, somebody wanted to go meet who they thought was a 15-year-old boy, I was like, no way this is this common. And just those three weeks, I just kept doing it over and over and over again. And it was so easy to get these people. And, you know, it was very

fun at first. I always wanted to get the bad guys, and I couldn't be a cop yet. I think I was just going to do two years of college and go be a police officer, but, you know, it wasn't set in stone yet. And, you know, it just kind of led to where we are now. Like, it started to get so bad, like, you know, there's one catch that's on Rumble now, where we confronted the this guy working at an ice cream shop. And his coworkers were defending him. And I'm like, okay, this is a serious issue. And that's kind of what turned on the passion switch.

It was like maybe the 10th catch. And then from there, you know, there was a time like in 2020, I'm like, okay, we're going after people, going after 15, 14 year olds. Let's see how deep this really goes. And now the past trip that we just did, we caught two people that were into infants and dogs and they were both arrested. It's a very deep rabbit hole with these people. So you contact the authorities.

Like when you're on your way to meet them, you guys call the authority to say, look, this is what's going on. We need an officer. Or do you do it like as you're talking to these guys and you're wrapping up? Do you guys then call or like how does that work? It's kind of a combination. So for example, the guy that was into the guy that was into infants and dogs in Arizona, we called the cops midway through. Because typically what I like to do is, you know, we have the messages, always set in stone. then we have hopefully which happens a lot them confessing on camera to what they want to do

voluntarily like we don't say do this or else I'm going to do this and um you know so we have all that then I tell one of the people go order the fried pickles and fried pickles is code word for um I knew something was up I knew it when I saw that cops I don't know how many criminals watch this channel but um ignore what I just said if you're watching you're a criminal because at one point you said hey can you go ahead and get the fried pickles because I like I come here I always get them when I come and and I thought that seems odd that out of nowhere he just said that like that's got to be I know like I'm not like that fat to where I'm ordering like actual food like mid cash I mean I'm getting there but not yet and you know so then with the guy in New Mexico the decoy reached out

to the sheriff's office beforehand and they were willing to technically not work with us but they were willing to be aware of what we did and you know they just happened to be watching the stream as we were doing it and you know when I ordered the food they just happened to be around the corner and go arrest the guy so you know um well man that you know i don't know where to begin like the guy i was going to say the one the one yesterday he yeah he he just started to spill everything just started very you know but the thing is the well first of all you're a big guy so it's not hard for you to move the guy to you know and you just said hey let's talk out here i mean the guy's like looking up at you so he's like uh okay so he immediately bolts out the back and

you're standing there but you're a you were also you know like I said you were non-confrontational non-jured like like I can't see where he would say oh I felt uncomfortable or anything like that because you were so just you know appreciative of him moving out there talking to you having conversation and multiple times you're like oh yeah yeah no I don't I don't think you're I don't think that's weird at all no that's fine no no no that no I you seem like a nice guy you were very you know and you're pulling out the transcripts of the of the of the text conversations and you're like well here you say this and this. I mean, you seem very respectful. And, you know, you were going on and you were making

him feel comfortable. And the more comfortable he felt, obviously, the more he talked. Yep. But, God, the stuff he was saying. I know. I know. I mean, he was absolutely one of the worst. I mean, he worked at a daycare. And, you know, that's for one reason only. And he rented the van. He rented the van. What? What? As soon as I saw the van, I said, well, there's no reason for, like, a 45-year-old man to go meet me. A couple of young individuals. individuals with a van like that immediately makes me think serial killer yeah absolutely and the fact that he said he's been caught before by cops doing this and they didn't they drop the charges i don't

understand you know so that's that's crazy like especially when it comes to something because you know with you um you know you got arrested for fraud that's fixable you know what i mean you're not you're not you're not genetically a fraudster but i think these people are genetically um you know the way they are i just say and you know when they show you that the first time like believe it you know like there's no like i guess even with something like you know say say i go and head in a um how do i say just rope some rope somebody at a g to the beginning of that word you know just grab their but they're my age right you know i can um you know i can i can fix that i can just not do that again but i think with them when they're going to try to meet

you know younger ladies under 18 off the internet i don't think that's fixable i think in their head they just have to do that that's just how they are so i was so so when i went to prison obviously um i told you that but i was you know i was held in like a marshal's holder for like a year then i was sentenced then i did third or did three years in a medium security prison well it so there's not a lot of of offenders there like this right um because they'll hurt them you know they're not they're not They don't do well. Right, right. You know, they basically have to stay in the unit.

They, they don't go in the rec yard. They, if that, when they go to Chow to eat, like they literally, when they call last call, and basically the Chow Halls empty, these guys, there might be 10 out of 1,800 guys. They'll immediately rush out of the unit, go straight through the line, grab their food, eat as quick as possible, go back to the unit because they have a unit that has, is there at Coleman, they had a unit that was specifically for people that had mental problems. And they would stay in that unit. You know, and they're, I mean, like guys that are schizophrenic or epilepsy or, you know, different issues.

So, but at the low, 50% of the inmates out of 1,800 inmates at the low security prison, 1,500 were either there for that specific charge for looking at pictures. Almost all in federal are looking at pictures. Typically, they're not, we used to call them hands-on. They're not hands-on. Right, right. hands-on typically end up in the state. It's a state crime. If you're looking at things on the internet, the feds get involved.

Right. So most of these guys looked at stuff on the internet. Now, some of them had actually videoed things, and they actually were a part of creating, you know. Rings? Yeah. Like, for instance, there was at one point, there had been like a bust of,

honestly, there was probably a thousand, maybe even more. of guys that were paying like four or $500 a month to be a part of a website where a father was doing things to his daughter since she was like the age of like nine and he'd been doing it for like three or four years. Eventually a guy got caught for something else and he told the authorities, listen, I can help you with something.

This is what's going on. I'm a member of this site and the site's huge. And so they go in and they get all of these guys like, IPO addresses, they trick, they, IPO? IP? IP addresses? What am I saying? Okay, their IP addresses, they track them all down, they set up stings, they arrest hundreds of them.

Nice. We ended up getting like, we probably had 30 of the same guys on the same case. Like, they don't know each other, but they're all in the same case. And so, like, you know, that's extremely, like, to me, it's like, you're looking at a, at a picture, an underage, you know, underage person, a picture of. of them like okay you didn't really do anything like i get it you know you're a sicko you're a pervert you need counseling i don't know if you know need prison but whatever i don't make the rules but you're a member of a site where some guy is doing something like you're you're promoting that right right you're like paying yeah it fuels it fuels the market for it and i think i think they're

indirectly i think they're indirectly doing it i mean the same way the same way that these only fans people get this affirmation because all these simps are like you know promoting them it's it's the same way like without without all these people paying for it would the abuse still happen maybe but would it be i mean it wouldn't be distributed like it is and it wouldn't you know it wouldn't it wouldn't get to a point where the dad's doing it for like a profit and you know he wants to like do it more and more and more hundreds of guys hundreds of maybe even thousands of people are are paying and this is a thing too this is what killed me when somebody had told me about it like hey bro like we got like 30 of these guys from this one get i was like really and they were like yeah they've been

coming in over the last two couple two three weeks because they all get sentenced at different times and moved so over the last two three weeks they're like that guy and that guy'm like oh wow that okay and i remember saying um well i mean you know and they were saying yeah those guys are like contributing to this this crime and i remember saying i was like i said well i mean what would someone pay for that anyway and they were like the guy and he they told the exact figure and I remember thinking, that's a car payment. Like, you've got, you're making a car payment to, to be a part of this site. And one of the guys was a principal of a school.

A lot of these guys put themselves in a position to be around young adults, right? Yeah, I want to say young adult, you know. Younger ladies under 18. Yes, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like, I mean, the daycare worker, gosh, the guy, the video that we posted, two videos before that, that guy, He went out. I mean, he has no job. It didn't do anything. He's on, he's on welfare. But he made sure that he gets to babysit his friend's kids. Like the one time he leaves his house, he's doing it to babysit his friends' kids.

Like when we confronted him, he was in his pajamas, like at 6.30 p.m. You know, but he'll get dressed and suddenly want to be social to go do that. And, you know, it's not a coincidence. Like, apparently at the daycare, the guy's only been working there for a couple weeks because he just was homeless. He, you know, got his life back. on, well, temporarily back on track. And so luckily he was supervised by like the other woman there because you couldn't be alone with the kids yet. But I think it was only a matter of time.

And I'm glad he decided to go do this. Actually, I'm glad he decided to go do it because we all know how he was because he's been caught before. He has that attraction. So I'm glad he slipped up again and they got exposed for it. You know, a lot of these guys, like they'll get time. They get out. So first of all, it's funny because in Florida,

they used to not let them go to halfway houses right and that's a big i mean i know you don't you know you haven't been locked up but like you go to prison for five years you've lost everything right you know and you get you need to go to a halfway house uh for six months or so to just a you get a job you save some money like if they if they just dropped you off at the corner like how am i gonna where am i going right oh your friends and family well what if you don't have friends and family if you're a criminal there's a good chance that they've turned their back on you if you're one of These guys, they're done with them. Oh, yeah.

Like almost always. And then Florida used to, really only about a year ago, they started letting them go to halfway houses again. It was like 10 or 15 years where one had gone to a halfway house, committed a crime in the halfway house. They said, uh-uh, we're done with these guys. And they cut them off. But they just started letting them go again to, you know, get back on their feet. But then it's hard for them to find someplace to live. They're all terrified of what's going to happen when they get out.

They do not have an easy time in Coleman. In prison, in Coleman, they had an easier time than most prisons at the low that I was at because it almost caters to them, but they still, they're bullied, they're pushed around, they're told they can't watch TV, you know, you can't come in the TV room, you can't that it's it's it's rough and then they get out of course they have to start their whole lives over again so the so there's a lot more stress on them and i'm telling you right now a ton of not a ton a lot of them do come back there were some guys that had been in state prison once or twice and we're now in federal prison for 10 years like like you listen it took me one time to go to

right i'm not going back you know but you're right there's something they're wired wrong And the other thing is now they have something called the, it's like public, it's a public safety factor where they make them go take a course. And if they don't pass the course, then they won't release them. Like they can permanently keep them in prison supposedly. That's a law, but I don't know if they've done it yet. The other thing is when these guys get out and they're on probation, they make them take a lie detector. They're not typically not allowed on social media. They like they're on they're like they're on them

They're supposed to be on them Law enforcement often questions him Not because he's suspected of a crime But because they find him fascinating He is the most interesting man in the world I don't typically commit crime But when I do it's bank fraud Stay greedy my friends

Support the channel Join Matthew Cox's Patreon The amount of Offenders? Yes, the amount of offenders that we've caught. Gosh, I'd say probably like 10 to 15% of the people we catch are offenders. Like the guy in New Mexico, I mean, he was facing charges for, you know, viewing his phone the wrong way. You know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And from what I understand, he faked his death. Carl's bad, New Mexico, PD, thought he was dead. And, you know, because we showed his face to the detective beforehand. And he's like, he's dead. I thought that guy was dead. He sure at this guy? I have a video

Yeah So then we like So he turns out he's living in his parents shed And he has a VPN So he's in like in a city like 30 miles north And he ends up going to meet Like he was originally supposed to meet a one three year old Like I'm sorry a 13 year old

You know 13 year old And he ditched that To go meet who I was posing as I was posing as I was posing as a mom Of three kids seven two and one and he just stopped talking to the 13-year-old, went to go to them instead. And then when we go meet him,

he wants to go meet at a church. And he's like, I'm over here, I'm over here. Like, we were supposed to pick him up and take him to the house. But then he just confesses to wanting to, you know, he had a line. He said he wasn't going to do anything to the one-year-old, but the two-year-old, that was fair game to him. I mean, this is genuinely how he thought.

And he just admitted to watching 20 years worth of illegal stuff on his phone. And then the cops came about 30, 40 minutes later. They were watching the stream and I deed him and, well, he wasn't dead and now he's in jail. And Eddie, in Eddie County, New Mexico jail for the moment. So do you sometimes have to have to go, like once they grab these guys, do you sometimes have to go and testify at like a trial? Like, do they go to trial? Very rarely.

Not rarely because they don't get charged. Rarely because, I mean, they're on video saying what they're going to do and all the messages. So, I mean, they'd be dumb to not take a plea deal. But there's one person that did, in fact, go to trial that I actually had to go, supposed to testify this morning at a preliminary hearing, but they waived it last minute. I was going to do it over Zoom for a guy in Pennsylvania. But there is a guy that went to trial. His name is Jeffrey.

God, I don't even know how to see his last name. But it's a really weird name to pronounce, I think I'm Wanninger or something. And he's in Iowa. And so the trial wasn't specifically for the charge of. trying to solicit one of our decoys it was for a chomo charge and the reason why i had to testify in that is because on the video he admitted to me to you know um having a relationship with his stepdaughter and so they played that part in court he pleaded not guilty to it despite confessing to the detective confessing to me having the messages saying he did it and he got

sentenced november 7th to 35 years in prison in state in state yeah and that That's not all. Then he's also now in Polk County Jail. Because he got convicted in Madison County. He's in Polk County, Iowa, jail now. He's awaiting trial for now our video of soliciting the decoy. So he's going to jail for the rest of his life, luckily. Jeez, I can't imagine going to a state facility with that charge.

Oh, yeah. Horrible. I mean, there's like two people in Iowa, so he might be okay, but like still probably not. They don't punch him out, I'm sure. Yeah, yeah. It's not going to be, it's not going to be hard. It's not going to be easy. I mean, it's going to be some hard, hard time. I was trying to think, what are the other things that, I'm trying to think of all the different things that they're trying to do to curb the behavior and curve, like, you know,

they can give them shots, they can do, there's all kinds of stuff that the federal government tries to do, and they monitor the hell out of them. Yeah, but I don't know. I don't know what stops it. I think like, I just think that, you know, there's a, you know, there's just myth in society that everybody's equal and deserves a fair shot. I think it's, I think that's BS. I don't think everybody's equal. I think those people are, I think, I think those people are just, I'm sorry, some people are just born messed up. And, you know, and I think this has to do with, in a way, kind of how politically correct we're getting, like, oh, it's okay.

They're just, they just need help. They just need help. No, there's no helping these people. They're like, they're like the Energizer Bunny. They're going to keep going to keep moving their legs to what they want to do. You can put a roadblock in front of them. Okay, you remove five years of prison. They're going to keep doing it.

Keep doing it. There's no stopping these people. Like, there's no, like, okay, so I got arrested in 2019 for DWI. And I wasn't doing, I was on the wrong side of the road. It was dark as heck. And I was on the country. So I didn't know what the side of the road I was on. But, you know, I did six hours in jail.

And that's enough for me to like really make sure, like, okay, this is this, this is that. Don't do it. And, you know, I ended up getting dismissed. I had nothing in my system. but you know that's enough for me to like curb me like that's a that's a six hours to me as a wake up call and for a lot of these people we caught a guy in ohio he did it 20 years for um you know making his a daughter's belly big via you know right and he did 20 years for it he's he's literally got out like a couple years ago and he's trying to um go talk to an 11 year old and he can he confessed to

he even sent over um he even sent over in illicit image to who we believe to be this um you know younger lady under 18 and he just went right back into jail we just told the detective after it happened and you know next thing you know just a week later we just see him on the list as like in in jail um so i mean i have a a slightly different you know um because i look because i was in a prison where like half of these guys either you know they had either the specific charges or those charges in their past like you might be here on a completely different charge right in your past you have a charge so they can't send those guys to you can't send those guys to just anywhere you know what I mean because then they because one of the things that happens when

you get the prison is they want to see your paperwork right so it's going to be listed in your paperwork they're not going to be okay with that so but you know I spent so I spent a considerable amount of time in a prison with with these guys and clearly there's something not right. You can look at them and tell, oh, something. We actually had him kind of categorized. Like, he's a sleeper. You know, he's a sloth, which we, or he's emotionally, emotional, was it stunted?

Emotionally underdeveloped. So I forget what it was, but what, and I don't know the exact statistic. I'd love to know what the statistic, the exact statistic. But I remember having a conversation where a guy had said, well you have to understand that like 70 or 80% of these guys were or claimed to be have been taken advantage of when they were kids and as a result of that it stunted them in some way and now they connect you know whatever you know um you know those acts with the age that they were taken advantage of or close to it and I remember the guy said that he's like so you know it's kind of messed up and I went you know and I get that and in that way they're victims like I feel for you yeah definitely I feel for you that this guy went through that but that created a monster and we can't and as unfair as

it is you can't let monsters roam society so do I feel for you I feel for your plight I feel for what happened to you. It's unreasonable. It's not right. But it happens to lots of people that don't turn into this. Absolutely. So I feel for you, but you can't walk around society. That's always like an excuse that I give them to like kind of confess to stuff. Because like I'm like, I try to always fit in at anything happened to you when you were younger. And if they say yes, I'm like, oh, okay. So now I understand why this is happening. You weren't born like this. You were created. This is unfair what happened to you. So you are here to do. It's not, yes, but I know. Give them an out. Yeah, give them an out. But yeah, I totally agree with you, regardless of what happened. Like, okay, if I get

robbed, am I going to go rob somebody now? I don't know. I actually can't compare that to like an SEX crime. But like, you know, and if that's the case, like if that's a valid excuse, how come the woman that get, the woman that get, you know, victimized, how come they don't go do it? You know, all the women are, they, it happens to them and they become extra against it. And maybe there's, I mean, maybe there's some innate difference when it happens to. Some people are more susceptible to you know and and that's and that's horrible right horrible thing but once again it's like sorry you know what I'm saying exactly it's like saying I was I was born poor and everything everybody I know is a drug dealer and so I sell drugs well I understand that's that's certainly a contributor

but there's lots of people in your neighborhood that have regular jobs right they were born poor their parents were drug dealers their parents were in and out of like that's an excuse you know in a way it's an excuse like I get it is a contributing factor but but but but But it doesn't happen to everybody. Not everybody lets that take over their lives. Right. Make that. Yeah.

Because in the end, it has to be in your mind. You have to be capable of doing it. Like, no matter how many times, like, no matter how many times some things can be shoved in my face or whatever, some of things I'm just going to always be adverse to. And obviously, they were still born in a way to where they're not adverse to that. Like, like their minds, their genetics are still, or their mind is still created in a way that they're capable of doing that if something happens to them or whatever. and you know there is one guy that we caught um gosh i really feel for this guy sadly um he just he had he had so many so many people that he did this to and he was obviously like very messed up like his you can see this video in rumble it's like ordained minister that we caught and his

wife what or is i'm sorry 23 or 24 years old now met her when she was 10 years old online when he was 36 and just she's very emotionally stunted he would like solicit, you know, N-U-D-E-S from her as a kid. He said, he told me that he still had a folder of her pictures from when she was like 11 and 12 on his phone. And, you know, he said what happened to him is that satanic ritual abuse happened to him when he was between two and five years old. And it stinks. I mean, I believe it happened to him. I believe that's a very real thing.

I mean, look at a Balenciaga, you know, I think all that stuff's real. But still, I mean, he knows. how bad it is. He knows how much it messed him up. And now when he called his wife on the phone, she was in the hospital for like mental issues now, because of course, of course she is. And he like just talking, hey, baby, this. And he had diapers like around the house because he likes to do age play. He likes to put her in diapers and do all this stuff here. I mean, he's just so screwed up. And, you know, got to the point where, yeah, I'm sad for him, but I don't care what happens to him now. I mean, he's, there's no excuse for these people. Like, I mean,

to everybody, do not take sympathy with these people. They were so sick. So are, so how long do you plan on continuing to do this? Well, I mean, I take, are you going to be a cop? I mean, I want to. I want to. I want to. But I take, I take things day by day. Like, I don't really, uh, I always, in some capacity, I always want to be in a position where I can get, um, you know, bad people, uh, that do this type of stuff off the streets.

Right. And go save children, whether that's going to run for office one day or be a police officer. I want to do this in some capacity or continuing to do this. But, I mean, my immediately, my immediately, my immediately, my immediate, my immediate plan. of plans as for i like glitched out for a sec um for now um you know until i settle down with my girlfriend and we have like beautiful babies together um i'm going to keep doing this and hopefully um when we settle down somewhere i'm going to go be a police officer in whatever area but so um so basically you you you have a rumble channel how long have you had the rumble channel i've had

the rumble channel for a couple months now is it working out as well as the other platform way better or no not i mean not yet i mean you know i mean i have some favorite channels that i like to watch on many platforms but um yeah i mean the rumbull's doing pretty all right okay okay so there's not no issues no no okay issues yeah well because i because i was thinking about doing a rumble channel like moving some stuff i have a ton of content at this point like starting a channel and moving it over there um also uh So do you ever watch, is it, it's Puggy Pug or? Yeah, if you want to see some awesome videos, definitely go watch Puggy Pug on YouTube.

Yeah, I mean, just some very, very, very weird stuff on that channel. I would recommend to go check it out and also go check out P.P. Southeast Texas. Those are just my personal favorite channels to go watch if you want to see this type of content and these people getting confronted. But yeah, those are just my personal favorite channels. Those are the only two I'm going to plug because I just like them so much better than every other channel. So, yeah, yeah.

So are there a lot of, is there a lot of editing in the videos? Because I noticed, you know, there were parts that were cut out. Like, it was that one video was like 45 minutes. Right. So how much was trimmed down? Or was it just in its entirety?

Well, we don't really trim anything down per se. I mean, we do. So basically, we live streamed the catches too. So the live stream's going, going, ongoing continuous. You know, it's privateed on, you know, it's just private on whatever platform we're using. And so as for the camera stuff, like basically, if the cops are just kind of talking to them and it's like 20 minutes at this point, we're like, okay, just cut the camera off. Live stream's going. The cops have their cameras going. We just want to make sure everything's

documented by either us or the cops. Right. So, so yeah, I mean, there were like, there were jump cuts in the video, but nothing that we said to him was cut out. You know what I mean? So, you know, cut to where the cops were talking to him, whatever, then they end up letting him go. They say, we got to go. The decoy in Illinois has to go up to Pennsylvania to give his phone to them. I don't understand why they're doing that, but whatever. And then I just pull Angel aside.

That's the guy's name. And I got the daycarey works at because I'm like, okay, well, if he's not going to, if him getting a van and crossing state lines isn't enough to go arrest him on the spot after admitting to want to do stuff with very, very young ladies under 18, then whatever. At least I'm going to get his daycare and make sure he's away from them. And, you know, I end up calling the daycare a couple days ago. and yeah he's gone so

I don't even okay I don't know what else do you want to cover anything else or so what first I have a question are you like living out of hotels no oh okay I got a I got an apartment it's so it's so dirty

that's all my fault though but like you know a good excuse like I tell everybody and you know I tell them like when my girlfriend moves in you know she's cleaning that you know what I'm saying but good excuse I tell everybody is I keep it dirty on purpose so I can keep working and just doing this across the country

totally has nothing to do with me being lazy and a slob at all it's because I'm so motivated to go do this that I never stay in there well because like right now you're leaving here to go to another state right right it's not like you're not even going in Florida you're like as soon as you get leave here like you've got to leave by a certain time you're getting in your car you're driving for four or six hours or six I don't know how long seven yeah seven hours to to grab somebody that's already prepared to be someplace you know and then you were like what was it a couple days ago you were

somewhere else like yeah i mean how often are you are you grabbing gosh i'm trying to think so i mean let's take november so november the second to the 12th i was gone then the 19th to the 22nd and then it passed so i guess like half the month i'm probably gone no i'm saying half how often are you grabbing people like once probably half the month yeah like is that four people is that three is it oh yeah like literally like probably this month we've caught

probably around like 12 to 15 and that's and it's you and it's so are you on the are you actually like texting or is this you have a crew of or some other guys that are actually doing the it's a combination so we probably have like four four to five

people that are just kind of texting that's their main thing but i mean i'm logged in to almost all the accounts and i'm like doing it too and then when it comes like meeting time like i'm the one in the area that knows exactly what i'm going to be there so i take that over then but i mean the guy that gosh for example the guy in arizona that was into doggies and infants i mean the texting to him i probably did 90 percent of it and then of course the actual decoy did the video call with him do these guys ever bolt like do ever walk up and say hey so what's going on they go done and that take off yeah if they were smart that's what they would do like sometimes the whole like hey man i just got to talk to you sometimes they're like i don't see your badge you're wearing like a freaking

walmart t-shirt like i'm just getting the heck out of here you know but um yeah but no most of the time they stay because you know their first thing is like i got to explain myself like i guess it's like they're natural yeah i think they want they're trying to explain them the this issue oh if i explain it correctly he'll understand he'll cut me a break like this what are you going to say yeah yeah yeah if i just tell them that I'm not really here for what I was saying in the past three months I was going to do. And, you know, it's great. But, you know, my advice to them, you know, just trying to make it fair here,

my advice to them would probably be to run away from me. But let's hope they don't watch this. Has anybody ever gotten violent? Anybody ever? Because I thought I saw one video where the guy was yelling at you. Yes. We've definitely had some hostile people. The only one that actually got physical was an individual named Loren.

which is on the Rumble channel um he was one of the first ones in 2019 he he was just insane like he wasn't like uh physically uh imposing or anything but he just he was like so pompous about being caught like he just he tried to hit the camera but he ended up like scratching the camera man like it's barely like this i mean i'm just very glad that like the only guy that got violent was like a 20 year old effeminate twink i'm glad it wasn't like i'm glad it wasn't like somebody that did like 20 years in the pen and right you know Go ahead. Well, I mean, you're a big guy.

Yeah. You know, what, what, six? Six, four. Six, four. Yeah. Yeah, you're, you're a, yeah, that's massive. I mean, to me, especially to me, I'm tiny. So you're massive.

Yeah, I don't, I don't see anybody getting, it just, it just kills me, like, when I would watch the TV shows. And listen, here's what's funny is in prison, guys would go and watch, give in mind the, what, half the people there was there for. Guys would go and they would get 20 guys would get around and they'd watch this. TV show and they would just, let's just like, you know, laugh and just, you know, or shake their heads and, you know, and then, you know, these guys are all there and they know what they're watching. It's just super uncomfortable situation. And every time, like I would sit there and I, and I'd see him go and they'd sit down. They'd sit out and I'd go, oh my God, why is he sitting down? Or some guys would get up and run and then the cops would pounce on them.

Right, right, right. So I was just wondering if anybody ever took off. Yeah, quite a few, quite a few, I want to say quite a few, but very rarely they do. Like, we got a guy in his truck the other day. And I'm like, hey, Terry, he's like, that's not even my name. Then he just, so it is what it is. Do you try and follow them or? I used to kind of do that, but then I realized, like when I was like 19, I engaged in say more risk-taking behaviors in my car then. But yeah, now it's like, okay.

well there's always the next one we got a license plate let's just go from there right i was i was just going to say like you've got so many you know like there's another guy in two days it's another one in four days there's no like like at that point you don't you don't even have to you know um you don't even have to pursue anybody because you've got so it sounds to me like you've got so many people that are you're throwing lines out there all the time yep last time i counted how many people were talking to it was like 80 and as many what's so what's so messed up is as many times as you throw a line out you almost get you almost catch fish you know literally never fails man I mean the apps that we go on

so there's a difference like okay if you're on a dating app like say grinder or something they're expecting to someone over 18 like nobody goes on grinder saying oh I'm going to go try to find kids on here because it's an over 18 app but you know when they come across a kid they're like well I don't mind you know but they're not expecting one you know right but when you're on like basically you know there's the dating app and there's a social media app like social media apps like Instagram or something. People are on there looking for children. Like they follow, like this guy that we can. Young adults. Yeah. Yes. Look for children to, you know, help boost them, but they will go after like young adults. You know, they're just, you know, they're good people,

of course, right? But, you know, so we call this guy in Divine Texas, which is like a little bit south of San Antonio. And Instagram is so blatant about this. Like, you know, Twitter tries to, like a whole thing with Elon Musk and Twitter is he's saying he's like trying to take away this basically this illicit material on the platform. There's a ton of it. You know, people say, like, well, it's not actually a big issue. No, there's whole communities of these people that use these certain hashtags. Like when there's the hashtag Dropbox, you know, Dropbox, like the app or whatever, you can send files. But, you know, they can't specifically, allegedly, they can't post this stuff on Twitter.

But they can post a Dropbox. And in the Dropbox, I didn't see for myself, but I can put two and two together. Like the same people that want a younger lady under 18 are clicking on this draw. I can put two and two together what's in the Dropbox. And, you know, they use these easy ways. to get around it. It's like, you know, where you just basically see a house with like one small gate and you can just walk around the gate and get into the house. That's basically all these social media apps firewalls and whatnot. It doesn't do anything to stop them. And, you know,

so on Instagram, we caught this guy in Devine, Texas. He's literally following a page that's for maps and AAMs. AAM is a, is a minor attracted person and an AAM is an adult attracted minor. And he's just following a page for them. The page is just allowed on Instagram. and I'm sure they're just posting nasty stuff on there. It was a private page. But when I saw that he followed it, I knew that he was a guy that was into looking at some type of images. So he goes to meet who he believes to be this 13-year-old.

And, you know, basically then he confessed to looking at some of these images. And now he's going to be, should be arrested any day now. He confessed to the detective as well a couple days ago. So any day really should happen. I was going to say cheese, but what you ever heard, cheese pizza? Of course. Of course. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. That's like a code word. Oh, they have a ton of code words, right? Yeah, yeah. They'll have a whole conversation in front of you. You don't have got a fucking clue what's going on.

Like, I'm like, like, it doesn't quite make sense, like what these two guys are saying, but... To them it certainly does. Right, right. Like, it's confusing. Like, with someone like me, I can say, I love cheese pizza, and people would, like, no. But then when I see these predators, these adults that are going after younger ladies start using this word, I'm like, well, I'm a veggie. vegetarian pizza lover but like yeah it's just very uh yeah it's it's i mean i've known about that hashtag for probably like two years now like them started using it and you know there's tons of

those pages on instagram that just advertise like you know pizza pizza pizza and sickening and then they also use this code word called unicorn um i don't know exactly what unicorn i forgot what it's something to do with uh it's something to do with like a young younger lady under 18 yeah Yeah, yeah. And, you know, there was a guy in Oregon named Fred Hendricks, Jr., who he got. He was so calm for eight months. Like, you know, they all, there's one reason he's texting an eight-year-old, right? But he was so calm for eight months, like, just, hey, how are you today?

Good? Oh, work was fine. Okay, like, very cordial conversations. And then he's like, when we hang out, I just want to bring you a unicorn. And at the time, I was like, see, like, I was just like, dude, just get to the point already. Like, I was just thinking this, like, come on, man. But then when I found out what Unicorn actually meant, I was like, oh, this guy was way, like, so depraved. And we ended up getting him.

He'd ended up being one of the worst. He still, like, one sexual message. But I didn't know he was on the sex offender registry. And he just confessed to so many victims. And he's currently serving three and a half years in Oregon. And in Oregon, that's probably like a very, very long sentence. You know what's funny is that, like, in the state, we'll give him these sentences of, like, three years, two years, four years. And yet, if they're caught with, you know,

viewing cheap you know cheese pizza right right you know on the internet like like the minimum of having just like one image is like three years in the feds and typically these guys are coming in with they're coming in with five 10 15 20 year sentences in the feds they had a guy from

Germany who had been talking to an FBI agent that he thought was a 13 year old boy and he was in Germany he got on a plane from Germany and flew to the United States. Dang. They arrested him in the airport. Like, they didn't even set the guy. They didn't even, like, listen, you just, we have these horrific messages or horrific, you know,

a string of text going back and forth. And you just got on a plane. Like, you don't have a prayer. So his, his, so he ended up going to trial and trying to say, listen, in my country, I have not broken the law. Like, the age of consent is whatever. it was. It is like 13 or 14. And the person he was talking, he's like, so in my country, I haven't broken the law. They were like, yeah, but you were talking to someone in the United States

and you flew to the United States. So you were intending to do this to someone in the United States and break the law. He was, yeah, but in my country, I haven't broken the law. Like going there to do it and not doing it isn't breaking the law. He went to trial. He lost. He got 25 years. Oh my gosh. He tried desperately to get the, to get the, um, the German government. to like come to his aid like their their version of like the u.s attorney or their attorneys to try and say look send this guy back to us you know no no harm no foul you can't do like they were they weren't receptive to helping him in any way at all uh yeah he was a a thin german guy walking around had 25 years didn't know what to do he's done he's done like like they're not

gonna cut you any slack at all with that charge especially in the uh in the justice system not in the federal justice system but it's all it always killed me like in the state had that been a state crime he'd have probably gotten two or three years right you know he'd have been on a registry somewhere he'd at three but in the feds man they're handing out time like it's nothing yeah i mean that's just such a porous excuse to use well i'm not i mean he knew was going to be illegal in america like i'm sure he researched like i mean he knew well like it doesn't even matter if he didn't if he knew or not this is a u.s citizen right right right You know, now, I agree that laws in your country are different than great.

Stick to your country. Yeah. Victimize your people. Yeah. It's like, I mean, how many countries can you use that? And it's like, it's like, okay, if a Western white woman went to, like, I ran and just walked around and like a bikini everywhere. Yeah.

Oh, but I can do that in America. Dude, they would laugh and better, dude. Like, it's like, it's like not a good excuse. But, yeah, I mean, we get a lot of Europeans that do message us. We don't really engage with them because I'm like, okay. I mean, realistically, I'm not going to get. get on a plane and go to France and get this guy because, you know, like, I want to, but the thing is, like, just logistically, like, how am I going to have phone service to use Google Maps,

driving on a different side of the road, I think? Like, whatever. You got to go with, they got to jump on a plane fly over here. Yeah. I was going to say, there was also a guy that got 10 years. He was a teacher, teacher of the year, like three years in a row. He used to brag about that. You brag about that in prison? Yeah. Yeah. He was, he was like, well, You know, I was teacher of the year three years in a row. It's like, okay. Well, it's not why you're here. He's been known to cure insecurity just with his laugh.

His organ donation card lists his charisma. His smile is so contagious. Vaccines have been created for it. He is the most interesting man in the world. I don't typically commit crime, but when I do, it's bank fraud. Stay greedy, my friends. support the channel join matthew cox's patreon he would go once a year to singapore and he had gone to singapore he had you know had you know inappropriate uh relations with you know young young girls

who were prostitutes in according to him you know in that country and then he had come back to the united states and he had photographs on his phone oh okay and he was engaged in talking with other people online somebody got busted the FBI had read the had read the transcripts where he had talked about listen this is where you got to go and i go and he had sent pictures so now you're distributing and you've just admitted online this so if they end up grabbing him he ended up taking a plea for 10 years like you can't go to trial the guys to go to trial we get 25 years so like take your 10 and but anyway yeah we we were we run into a few that are kind of like that. We're talking to a guy in the eastern part of the country. He does like these like

from what to seem like backpacking trips, like Africa and stuff like that. And there and there's another guy. He never really engaged in the talk. I think that's because he's so careful. Like it's so obvious what he's doing. It's so obvious with who he follows. But I think he just knew we were in the States. So he's not doing that talk with us. But his pictures were littered with him these young boys like you know they were posted publicly on instagram like he didn't send us nothing but like just you could tell i mean this guy's in these like these like third world countries and just abusing the crap out of people man i mean they do it i mean we we we caught a mormon missionary a couple weeks ago in virginia um i don't i don't know like why maybe that's why

he was a more mission he was only 20 years old too and he was like i guess kind of in training or something and it's nuts because they have to roll and patch it too and he's you He was there with his friend. His friend had nothing to do with it. But, you know, I basically lured him out of the apartment by going to the front office thing. I got a package for him because he can't give me the apartment number, but they can give me, they can call him and say we have a package. So he comes around just like nothing happens and boom, we go get him.

And then the cops come. He's being investigated right now. And I think he will get arrested because we had an arrest in that area, too, a firefighter, so I think it'll turn out well. But so many of these people, sick. We had a guy who, God. I wish I can't remember this guy's name, too. He was probably 6-1, 6-2, good-looking guy,

had been in trouble before, but got probation for the same thing. Right. Then he got caught with photographs, went to Coleman for, I want to say, four or five years. He was there a few years that I know of. Got out,

and while on supervisor, release violated his supervised release because what he said was I had an email address they didn't know about and they found out I had this email address and they violated my probation. Now that's possible. You have to tell them all social media, everything. Even I have to tell them, hey, here's my email addresses that I use. Here's my phone number. Here's my address.

Like they have to come by. But he had one that was an email address. And I remember thinking, well, I wonder how they figured out he had an extra email address. and why would you have one and not tell them? So he ended up getting his probation violated. He came back. They gave him like, whatever, 12 months or something. So he comes back.

He's waiting to leave. You know, he was in, already been in county jail for several months. It's so funny, too, because I remember my ex-wife had come to see me, and we were in visitation, and she would always be sitting in visitation. She'd go, what's that guy here for? I go, him? Bank robbery. She'd go, really?

I go, yeah, he brought like five or six banks. She's like, he's so fat. And I'm like, I know, right? You would think, like, he's huge. I'm like, and I would tell her what he did. Because I knew, like, anybody who had semi-interest in cases, I knew. And then, of course, other inmates tell you about other inmates. And then she was like, what about this guy?

I was like, oh, this. And she goes, what about this guy? And I go, you'll never guess. And she goes, what? She goes, fraud. Fraud. She's a good looking. She was, he's smooth.

She goes, con man, right? Fraud. go no she was bank robber no truck dealer no and then I tell her what he's there for and she's like she goes but he's so good looking and I was like I know I was like I know right like he can have anybody and but here's what happened you remember I told you about the email address yeah after a few months he gets called up to the lieutenant's office to be served that email address he was using to communicate They, that was connected to like a Facebook page, or Facebook or something. He was communicating with like a 13 or 14 year old.

Oh, my God. And so they, they, just to get him off the street, they violated his paper because they can do that just by saying, we're violating. Well, here, for this. And you can't, there's nothing you can do. You don't have rights. They threw him back in prison. They, the judge gave him 12 months while the investigate, he didn't want to tell anybody, but there was an investigation. So they charged him.

He was looking at something like six or eight more years or something. Dang. You know, like, being caught, got probation. Caught again, went to jail. On probation, did it again. And I'm telling you, this guy, this is what we call the sleeper. Sleeper was somebody that was like, no, he looks like a normal guy. Funny, nice.

And, of course, when they get there, they try and tell, they would always try and tell you they were there for something else. Right, right, right. You know what it was bothered me? They were almost 95% of the time they pick fraud. That bothers me. You can't pick drugs. you have to sully fraud you know they would go they'd be like oh I'm here for fraud and you go

what kind of fraud oh credit card fraud credit card fraud that's the charge credit card for yeah well in the federal system there's no such thing as credit card fraud it's like access device fraud it's bank fraud it's financial institution fraud there's no credit card fraud and so and so already now I'm looking at the guy going no I'm like and I go really what would you do you know and you start and let him tell me this long story that makes no sense at all the way they imagine credit card fraud work I go where'd you get the social security numbers well how'd you get this how'd you get the credit cards oh well you didn't have mailed to your house did you know I uh uh I had a mail to a PO box really they mail credit cards to a PO box they don't um you know what I'm saying like it's and I just let

him bury himself and bury himself and I walk where they go hey so what's that guy here for you I go, you know, boom, this, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, cheese pizza. No, yep, you know, chomo, chomo. He's a mo. Oh, my gosh, man. Yeah, like, you saw the University of Florida quarterback, like the backup, Jalen Kittna, just got a, you know, John Kittna, right?

I don't know anything about sports. You didn't watch any NFL in jail? No, I was writing books. Oh, you're right, you're right. You're doing something productive. Okay. Listen, and the guys that are watching sports, And they're all massive screaming, hollering.

I can't stand screaming and hollering. Yeah, I get you. But he's like the son of an NFL quarterback. He's playing on the Florida Gators team. He's like the backup quarterback. 19 years old. He just got busted for, he got busted for possession. You know.

Oh, man. Hey, while I was incarcerated, two correctional officers got busted. That works right at your place? Well, one was in the medium. This was a guy, Lieutenant Zachary. I only remember his name because he bawled me out one time throwing me in the shoe

after I've been there like two weeks and I had my chair you know there's a two-tier system where and there's like a balcony that goes a wrap around you've seen prison shows like that prison was like a real prison and I was had my chair

sitting on the second tier watching TV and he goes you you! And I was like yeah he made me I've thrown people in the shoe for like he just balls me out everybody's looking at I'm like what did I do

And he was like, you know, you have your, you're sitting in your chair on the, up against the railing. And it was like, the fuck is your problem. Like, okay, tell me to just tell me, like, I just got here, you know. But anyway, probably two weeks, three, maybe a month later. Somebody came to me and said, bro, did you see the paper? Boom. Like they had, he went to like a public's to meet some, some kid who was like a 14 year old, you know, girl or something. And to me, bam, they grab him. Did it end up being like a cop? Or was it like, oh yeah, yeah, it was a cop. It was all a sting. It was all a sting. Oh my God. Another guy used his computer at the facility, like was looking at stuff on the facility. And he was, same thing. It was an FBI sting. He was in a chat room. He got

messed up. But it wasn't, it was, what was so horrible was that they actually have things on the computers like to spot stuff like that. So somehow or another, they actually knew what he was a log of it. He was on him. He wasn't even trying. Like, you know, you're surrounded by these guys like you're not even making an attempt you're just brazen about it he uh yeah all same thing they walked him off the con like they came got him on the compound jeez you know grabbed him and walked him off we never saw him again listen the the the congressional officers at a lot of these facilities are just they're they're they're they're main i'm d ui's they get into fist fights with each other i mean they're just you know these are the guys that like

they couldn't quite be law enforcement right right a lot of times they're just nice guys you know Maybe they did some military time. They got out. This looks like an easy gig. I really don't want to be a cop. I just want to kick back. And those are the guys that are okay. Those are the CEOs that you're like, he's all right.

Like he's not, he's just here to get a check. But some of them are all over just, they're like sadists. They're there to make your life miserable. And they don't have the temperament to be a police officer. Yeah, we caught a, we caught a CEO in, in Belmead, Texas, which is McClendon County. That's where Waco is. You know, Baylor's at. That's where that is.

Yeah, he was a correctional officer. and he was attempting to solicit who he believed to be a younger lady under 18, five years under 18, 13. And he, I mean, he just didn't really see much wrong with what he was doing. Like, he's like, I'm sorry, I won't do this again. But he was like, when did this all start for you? So basically, long story short, he talked about how he video called a one five year old, like a 15 year old.

And I'm like, okay, so was she naked? And he's like, well, yeah, I'm like, did you look? He's like, well, who wouldn't look? I'm like, uh. Most people. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, but you know, in the video, I'm like, yeah, that's a great point.

Exactly. I can't blame you. And then, you know, this is as he has a sick wife who's dying. He's just sick. I mean, and then it's sad too because his dad was a CEO and his dad was there during the catch. And basically, you know, with these two people being in like the, his dad was there. So what you, he didn't come to meet you with his dad. You guys went to him.

Right, right. Okay. And so his dad is, his dad was also like a former CEO and just, just like they just had no idea that I was even going to call the cops. Like these two, these two, you know, cops pretty much, they just had no idea that I was trying to get them to confess on, well, the dad had nothing to do with it. But he had no idea. I was trying to get his son to confess on camera. And it sounds like 50 years old. They just had, they're so clueless. Like they don't ever plead. You know, I don't they can't plead the fifth to me. I'm a private citizen. But they never just shut up and just say, I'm done. They're just so stupid. But yeah, he got arrested and whatever. Well, I think also being a, well, I mean, in general, but in general, also correctional officers feel like their law enforcement. Yeah. They are law enforcement. They are. So they're law enforcement. And for some reason, some law enforcement, not all of them, but some law enforcement feel like as a result of being law enforcement, they're above the law.

Like, it doesn't really apply to them. Well, you know, it does. But I guess because they've been in that situation, and a lot of times they protect their own to such a degree, they start to, instead of, instead of, realizing like wow I dodged a bullet I need to straighten up they don't they become emboldened by it and they get even more risky they're or could they conduct even more risky behavior yeah I mean we're talking to another CEO now he's in uh he's in like oh he's in Oklahoma he's not he's not ready yet you know what I mean he's careful like he's he's he's a little bit less stupid than the one in Texas but he's already told me that he's viewed some images before but you know

it's just technically not enough right now that he's done it in the past he said like that's all he said so far and i'm sure when i confront him in person i'll know more but you know he's getting close it's been it's been a couple months he calls a sexy at this point to two and eleven-year-old and it's like so the pictures the pictures we use um the girl now is 25 years old but we use her pictures from when she's actually like uh you know that age so nobody can say well she's actually um you know this is 25 being passed off as they say no this is an actual picture of her from when she's to say so there's no excuses and And, yeah, I mean, I think he's just very sick. And I think he's, he said the other day that he was watching some stuff on his phone.

He didn't say what kind it was. So it could have been adults. But he's getting very close. And I can't wait to go get him. Well, yeah, I don't know. Do you have anything else you can think you want to? I know you're, I mean, I know there's a time where you said, you know, we're coming up on one. Oh, ready?

Yeah. Overall, I'm a talker. I'm a talker. It's been fun. I mean, I wish we could, you know, talk more openly. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's certain things that I just, you know, I just don't want to get. There's actually a guy.

Do you remember Brett, Brett Johnson? You know, his channel got taken down. So this guy came here, super cool guy, a guy, scammer. and you know came here like it had like a huge case like like as far as being like you know if you could say like the fraudster scammer kind of you know uh subculture you know he's like at the top like he's like the everybody everybody every every every scam artist out there like knows who brett johnson is right so he came and he had a channel and just kind of started it and was doing doing you know semi doing well starting to get going he did a

I think he did a Zoom interview with a woman that was, and I only got it through a text with him. So I believe it had to do with kind of like sugar datties, like guys that are paying women, that they're going to college and kind of like that. Right, right, right. I forget the name of it. But, yeah, where they basically pay them

and they pay for their, you know, whatever their living expenses, whatever. They try and say that it's not prostitiatur. You know, they try and say it's not, you know, that, but it is, you know, and so he had this conversation with this woman. This is what I, this is what I'm, I may be off, but on, on a Zoom podcast, like what she was doing, she's running the site, she's this, what, he put that up and they took down his entire website and everything.

He's like, he's trying, he's like, I'm trying to appeal it. I don't understand what happened. It's the only thing I can think of. I put the video up. within like 24 hours it got shut down everything was wiped was taken off was she like she wasn't like no no no like he's he's saying like i i don't understand what happened like he he was and this was a couple months ago because people were in my comment section telling me hey bro you know brett johnson's his channel's down like the whole thing's down like you can't even find

him so he then so i contacted him i said hey bro what's going on he said man listen this is what happened he told me he said i'm hoping to have it back up in a couple weeks well um a couple weeks ago, which now had been like two months, was probably a week or two ago. I asked him if it was back. It's not back up. I mean, I can see that it's not back up. And he said, I have no idea, bro.

I'm moving. He said, we're hoping to get it up. We're trying. We're disputing. We're trying to figure out what's happened. I'm moving everything to rumble. And that's what that's, you know, so. Yeah, I think that's a good move for anybody because, you know,

and you know what's crazy about YouTube. You know, there's these. videos of, you know, they definitely have a, they definitely have a, they definitely have a, they definitely play favorites. And there's these videos of, you know, and these people have kid audiences. There's a, you know, there's like these reaction channels that go ahead and they like, you know, they get into, they, they display like sex toys on the camera, on the camera for people to go see. And you, they know kids are watching. They're like, and then these only fans, um, you know, um, T-H-O-U-G-A-H.

You know, thoughts in the head, of course. Those type of people, they get to just be super, super hypersexual. And then there's these videos of like Brazilian wax. And like, I don't go watch these videos, but I hear this stuff. Like when I'm like, yeah, YouTube's really clamping down on people trying to do good things. They're like, well, this is a lot on YouTube. This is the allowed. Like, I don't watch too much YouTube, you know.

But, you know, they allow all of this stuff. But if somebody's actually trying to do something good or give insightful info on things or to actually educate people, they're really not a friendly platform for that and I think there's something way bigger at play than they let on Yeah, so based on the algorithm or based on you know videos we've seen like my my analytics

Like say that my channel Should be blowing up Should be blowing up Like people are watching like more than 25% of my videos Like I'm doing three sometimes four videos a week Like we've been we've never dropped off We've been consistent for two years Like the whole thing

But and for some reason And it just, I have people telling me, bro, I, like, I don't, I don't get notified. Like, I've got the bell on. I don't get notified your video. I thought you hadn't posted in two weeks. I went and checked, and you've posted like six videos. I hadn't, I'm not, and then they're like, I unsubscribe, resubscribe, hit the bell. Like, they'll do the whole thing over again.

And I've had that. It's not like it's three people. Right, right. Dozens say that. So, and the only thing I remember was talking to this guy, and I'll let you go. I was talking this guy one time. And I said, I said, I know it. I've been shadowing.

And I know why. I used to have a Trump painting up here. And this is what, like, and I'm like, the Trump painting got me shadow banned. That's what it is. It could. It's very possible. I think I've been shadow banned, like, for a month before.

Because I could tell, like, you know, on the live streams, we get, like, you know, close to 2000, but now we're getting like 1,400. And the video views are going way down. But that was just for a month. But other than that, like, you know, especially when, especially since, you know, I do stand with. a certain country and stuff like that i mean you see you see the amount of views like on this on

this on that channel like yeah yeah it is that doesn't make it's outrageous it doesn't make sense you know what's so funny is like a year ago when i first kind of well i'm sorry a year and a half ago when i first started so i had maybe 10 10 or 15 000 views or subscribers i probably had two months straight maybe three months where i was getting 3 000 to 3 500 new subscribers every month. Good. And the videos were getting, you know, four, five thousand, six thousand views, you know, not a whole bunch.

Now my videos get twice as much, and I get about a thousand, maybe 1,100 new subscribers a month, and I'm putting out twice as much content, and it's even longer content. Right. I was putting out 30-minute videos to an hour videos and getting 3,500 new subscribers. now I'm putting out two hour and two hour videos sometimes four hour videos and I'm getting a thousand new subscribers a month that doesn't make sense it's yeah I mean there's there's no explaining it I mean I think I think I understand it but like yeah man I mean there's it's like with subcount doesn't really matter because you know back when I did have a 150k subchannel in the in the live streams you know it would be the same amount of people as like with the 40k sub channel like that

I mean, the video, the video views were different, yeah, but like the live stream views, like, okay, why are the same amount of people? Like, it's, it's very strange, very strange. Well, you know, hopefully, hopefully things change. Hopefully, you know, I'm just pushing through it. But I appreciate you driving. Yeah, Rumble. I appreciate you driving here. I appreciate you coming.

Thanks for squeezing me into your, you know, your schedule. Appreciate you all having me, man. And so do you have any other, any platforms that you want to, uh, Push. I mean, I know your favorite is, you've got you, I know, uh, Puggy Pug. I know you love that. I love that. I love that. Just my favorite dog channel. And, um, you know, I like a P.P. Southeast Texas. You know, that's also a great channel. A lot of interviews of people across the country on that channel. Very insightful, I'd say. Um, and then on Rumble, my channel that I own on Rumble, it's called Predator Poachers. So you can just type in Predator Poachers on Rumble. Got about 7K subscribers.

And, um, hopefully we get that up soon. Hopefully Rumble gets up and coming because I'm so sick of having to go around and just, you know, say what I mean, but not really say it, you know what I mean? But like, yeah, but I appreciate it. My Instagram is 50 sick and F-I-D-D-Y-S-I-C. And my Snapchat for the ladies is, no, I'm just kidding. Nobody adds me anyway. But that's it. Okay. All right. All right. All right. So, hey, I really appreciate Alex coming by, and I appreciate you guys watching this video. Do me a favor. And if you like the video, hit the subscribe button,

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