Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Meet The Man Who Robbed 10+ Banks - Rob Edwards (Batman)

Episode Date: August 2, 2023

Meet The Man Who Robbed 10+ Banks - Rob Edwards (Batman) ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, this is Matt Cox, and I want to talk about a second channel that I just started, which is called Inside the Darkness. So I'm a huge fan of soft white underbelly, right? Like, I've been on soft white underbelly. I love the format of soft white underbelly. Spoke with when I went out to Los Angeles, and I did one of, I did an episode. with him or an interview with Mark. We had talked extensively about his setup and how he did it. And the thing about Mark is, and by the way, there's a great
Starting point is 00:00:42 interview with him with Danny on a concrete where he goes all into his background and everything. Look, the guy is like just amazing. The cinematography is just phenomenal. The interviews are great. And so I talked to him a lot. lot about about his channel and about what he was doing and and I really enjoy the format my my problem is with his channel in general is that you know he's he's interviewing like you know homeless people drug addicts prostitutes and and although the interviews are great the cinematography is great
Starting point is 00:01:22 it's it's a great concept I don't really have all that much interest in what's going on with you know with those people i i don't i'm not i'm not able to empathize with their plight i don't have a drug problem uh i i'm typically uh able to kind of function in society so you know their their issues are not my issues so i have a hard time uh getting through those interviews although they are great listen and and i mean you know he he shoots them beautifully they're almost like works of art. If you haven't checked out his channel, you really should check it out.
Starting point is 00:02:05 So I remember as we were talking and he was talking about how he had problems getting monetized and that the videos weren't making money. Not that the videos for him are about making money. They're not. Like for him, it's a mission.
Starting point is 00:02:21 He's basically retired. He's made probably, I believe he's probably a multi-millionaire. He's made a ton of money, had an amazing career. and towards the end of his career, he just decided this was something he had to do. So he started the YouTube channel, Soft White Underbelly. Well, and of course he's got all the other media going.
Starting point is 00:02:40 He's got TikTok. He's got Instagram. He has all the other platforms covered too. So what I thought was great was I loved the idea of just sitting somebody in a chair with a nondescript background. I chose a black background for my chair. channel and just have them tell their story in their own words, you know, which I think is great because it's so, it just, it shows someone just that they're most vulnerable, you know, where they have to explain their life and lay out their life in their own words without being
Starting point is 00:03:18 prompted. And it's extremely difficult to do. Most people can't do it. And if you think about it, if somebody asked you right now, who are you? What would you say? Like, it's difficult to come up with who you are or why you're there or you know even if it was just unless it's really a story of some kind and typically most people can kind of struggle out a story so what i did was i thought what's what's interesting to me about his channel and those interviews is when he interviews like let's say criminals and they tell you about something they've done obviously i'm fascinated by criminals and so what i decided to do was i thought you know what i'm going to do i'm going to take that one element of the people and the interviews and I'm going to do a channel that's based solely on
Starting point is 00:04:04 just people that have committed crimes and their lives and so I took I took my one of my my my spare room and I lined the entire room and in with black curtains you know that so actually I went to Walmart did I tell you this I went to Walmart and I bought like six black sheets so I line the whole the walls with black sheets and the ground with black sheets and I have two cameras set up and I have a stool and what I do is after I interview someone in my studio I say look you know I got another channel and I think it'd be interesting to have that channel and have you on that channel without me being involved so that people are just, it's you telling your story just about yourself. And the reason I like to do that
Starting point is 00:04:55 is that that way they've already told their story. And they kind of have a way, an understanding of how their story lays out. Once they've been interviewed by me, I've kind of said, hey, tell me about your childhood. Okay, where were you born? How'd this happen? Well, how'd you get involved with this? Well, what happened? And now in their mind, they're kind of like, okay, well, these were the points that he was interested in. Let me go ahead and just tell those points, kind of chronologically go over my story and lay it out sometimes it takes 30 minutes sometimes the guys talk for an hour and 30 minutes well i i obviously i have them sit down and go over the whole thing and then i edit the videos i take some what i think i take some very some decent photographs and i pepper those
Starting point is 00:05:45 photographs throughout the the inner or the video and I edit the video where some people get off on tangent and that is what that's what that channel is about I'm going to go one of those videos now so that you guys can see the layout or kind of how it's how it's laid out in the format of one of those videos and this is a video that was a guy that I'd actually interviewed maybe a year ago, I always, I was just fascinated by him because, look, he didn't rob the most banks. I know a guy who robbed like 40 banks. This guy's name is Rob. Rob Rob Rob Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, 10 banks, I think, and two armored trucks.
Starting point is 00:06:39 But I was fascinated because he really kind of continued. next with Batman and he's got a Batman tattoo and he he loves Batman and so I thought it was interesting it was an interesting story he loves telling the story which a lot of people can't stand telling their own stories my my girlfriend did one Jess she did an interview and it was pulling teeth she hated it she doesn't want to be in front of the camera she doesn't want to talk she doesn't want to be a part of it it's really it's a struggle some people just are not great at telling their story or even if they're good at they just don't want to tell it so i've got i've had i've i've interviewed about 10 people so far and i'm continuing to interview people and i'm trying
Starting point is 00:07:29 to get it to a point where i can interview all the time where i can get a new video up every single week and i think i can continue i think i can maintain that well anyway this is the video i interviewed Rob and I asked Rob to come back and do an interview and tell the story just by himself and he did and that interview is the interview I'm about to play and check out the interview he does a great job telling it it's a good interview and if you like the interview do me a favor and please subscribe to the channel because I need subscribers I need people to watch the videos I'm going to leave the link for the for the channel in the description so the link for the channel will be in the description you just tap on it it'll bring you right
Starting point is 00:08:15 there and subscribe so here's the interview i hope you like it please leave a comment let me know what you think check this out just introduce yourself who you are got you all right hey how are you doing my name's robert edwards i'm born in tampa florida so i've always wanted to tell this story. Basically, my childhood leading to where I got to, as far as my criminal record, to where I'm at today. I was born in 1967, December 23rd, named after my grandmother. Her name's Roberta, and they named me Robert. I started going to Lois Elementary. I went to Lloyd's Elementary School. From there, I went to Bryan, 6th grade center, which is on Hillsboro and 30th Street, if I'm not mistaken, 32nd, Hillsborough and 32nd.
Starting point is 00:09:18 And then from there I went to Sly, Greco, and King High School. As growing up as a kid all the way through high school, I never had any interaction with any police officers, never had any criminal record child, criminal record, or a criminal record or any kind of juvenile record or anything of that nature. I played football for Temple Terrace independently. I played for Wildcats. I played for the Cougars and also I played for the Lions. I probably was one of the favorite store best player on the team.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I played running back and also free safety. I stayed in the paper, Tampa, Timbeteris Paper, Tampa Tribune, one of the fastest guys in the league, the most touchdown, most kickoff returns, punt returns. And then I went off to King High School. So I started my first year at King High School, and that was the time that that they were building Armwood, and they were doing school changes, sending kids from King because it was overpopulated
Starting point is 00:10:45 to the new school, which was Armwood. And I decided, hey, you know, I needed a change, so I decided to go to Armwood. I went to Armwood, stayed there for two years, first year at King, two years at Armwood. I was the first class graduation at Armwood, I think in 1986, if I'm not mistaken. I went from there, I started working.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I worked for Casa Gallardo, which was a Mexican restaurant. That was my first job ever working at Casa Gallardo. I quit that job and started working for Cash and Carry. At the time, Cash and Carey was one of our first grocery stores or one of our only, only, well, it was Cash and Carry, Wind Dixie, and I'm not sure Publix was around, I don't remember, but I know Cash and Carries was our main store here in Tampa. I had worked there for approximately six months before they asked me if I wanted to be GTL, which is grocery team leader. and I was undecided about wanting to move up because I would have to come in at midnight at night and have to stay until it was an over-the-night job.
Starting point is 00:12:15 At that time, I really didn't want to work that time of night, be out from 12 to 8, 9 in the morning. So I decided against it right then. So I kept working on the stock crew for the next two to three. Three months, he came to me again and asked me if I wanted to be GTL. And he made me an offer I couldn't refuse at the time. I think I started out with like $10.75 an hour. And he offered me $13 an hour. And I decided to take the job.
Starting point is 00:12:45 So I took the job and enjoyed working there. I got promoted from there like a year later to another store, which was on Hillsboro. And Armenia, the cash and carry there. I got promoted to a bigger store, which moved me to grocery manager from GTL, from team leader to grocery manager, which was more money. I think they started paying me salary. So now, this is where it starts to take off for me, as far as my interaction with people,
Starting point is 00:13:25 as far as me starting to change who I was, as far as a person because I never had any problem with people before, but this particular store, the store manager had already picked someone to be in the position that the general manager or the regional manager put me into his store, but he already had someone he wanted to put in in that store in that position. So when I got there, his name was Joe LaBarber, and he was the store manager for Cache and Carey on Hills, Berlin, Armenia. He gave me a hard time. Why?
Starting point is 00:14:09 I mean, one of my reasons was because he wanted to put this other guy in that position. Two, because really, after getting to know him and seeing how he was, I figured that he had a problem with people of color. So we were getting ready to have a bank open inside the store. This is when the grocery stores started having banks come in and people were able to do their banking inside the grocery departments and inside of grocery stores. Well, we were one of the first stores to get a bank in it.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And I had just had a truck come in. My guys put the stock up on the shelf. And I had my store manager, Joe LaBarber, leave me a note. I think we came in at midnight. He left me a note saying, Robert in the morning, if the store is not aced out, I'm going to have your ass. Because it's an important day. We're having a grand opening for this bank,
Starting point is 00:15:12 and the store better be aced out. So I'm looking at the letter. I'm like, damn, who the hell are you talking to like that? I'm like, this for a store manager, this isn't very professional. This isn't how you talk to people. So I was like, man, you know what? And we had an overnight officer, which was a black officer, because it was a 24-hour store. We had an officer working there.
Starting point is 00:15:37 So I show him the letter. I said, hey, look, man, look at the store manager, just left for me. And he read the letter. He's like, man, that's crazy. He's like, if I was you, I'll keep that letter. So I took that letter folded up and I put it in my glove compartment. So as time went by, you know, things with me and that manager wasn't getting any better. It was getting worse.
Starting point is 00:16:01 This guy really was trying to get rid of me. He was trying to get me to quit or, you know, or trying to make it that me and him have some kind of altercation that I was going to have to be fired or whatever. So about two, three months went by. and I went to the store I had that day before off and I think it might have been like a Friday and I came in on Saturday
Starting point is 00:16:27 so I went to the store which you know I had got promoted to one on Hills, Berlin, and Minio. So when I got in the store, you know, I'm getting ready to clock in, you know, get ready to do our thing and the manager who was on at that time was just like a front-end manager
Starting point is 00:16:44 who told me, hey Robb, they transfer you you don't work here anymore. I was like, what? You're like, yeah, yeah, they transfer you back to the other store that you came pro. They say they needed you over there. So I was like, damn, okay, cool. I was like, no one even called to tell me and inform me that I'm no longer working here that I got transferred.
Starting point is 00:17:06 I was like, man, this shit is crazy. I said, okay, cool. So I left by the store, so I went over to the other story that I had got transferred from, for two. you know I transferred back over to the old store so I went in there and they had their front-end manager on and they're like hey Rob hey welcome back hey man I'm glad to see you what's going on he's like oh let me tell you before you get started two of your guys called in sick John wants you to pull all the back stock out from the back and work everything from the back and you have a truck call coming in with a thousand pieces on it now this is my first day back
Starting point is 00:17:44 to this store and this guy's telling me that I had two guys that called in sick I'm already short-handed they got a thousand-piece truck coming in and they have like 20 pallets of backstock in the back that they wanted me to pull out on the floor and go through so when I went to the back I looked at all that backstock it was just pallets of stuff that they ordered that couldn't go on the shelf at the time that they had to just stack it on pallet and they wanted me to pull it all out and I'm already pissed off because I got transferred back over to this store without even being told. So I say, you know what? I'm young.
Starting point is 00:18:27 I think at the time I was like 21 years old. I like, man, I ain't doing this. I'm going to quit. So I walk back up to the front. As I was walking back up through the front, I was walking through the front. I was walking through produce and there was a Spanish kid who worked with me when I worked there before and he was like, hey, Rob, hey man, what's going on? I like, man, they just sent me back over here, man, all that shit in the back, man, look, man, I'm not doing it. I'm like, I'm quitting, man.
Starting point is 00:18:59 He's like, you quit? I'm quitting. He's like, man, if you quit, I'm quitting. He's like, man, if you quit, you can't quit, man, come on, man. He's like, yeah, if you quit, I'm quitting. I'm like, man, I'm quit, man, I ain't doing this shit. So I walk back up to the front. And I like, the front-end manager. I said, hey, let me out, buddy. He's like, oh, would you left something in your car? You need to go to your car to get some out your car? I'm like, no, I quit, man. I'm not doing it. He started laughing. He's like, man, you're not quitting, man. You make more money than me with your overtime. He's like, you're going to quit for real. I was like, yeah, I'm quitting. He's like, yeah, what are you doing? He's like, I'm quitting too. And he said,
Starting point is 00:19:34 I can understand you're quitting, but Rob, you're quitting. And I was like, yeah, open the door, let me out. So when the man opened the door, we walked out the door. And when I walked out, it kind of like hit me. I'm like, damn, am I really quitting? I just quit my job. I'm like, man, what you want to do? So next to that cash and carry that was on Hills, Berlin, I mean, Del Mabre in 275, there was an ABC liquor store. I said, man, let's go to ABC. I'm not even a drinker, but for what just went down, I just felt like I wanted to drink something. So we went over to the ABC Liquor store, and we got a six-pack of slit-smalt liquor bull, the tall cans. We got that, and we got back in the car, and we drove across the street, which was Mon's Venus.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Mon's Venus is like a nudie bar, Joe Redner owned it, and we pulled over there. we sat in the parking lot and trunk like two a piece. And from just two of those tall cans of slips milked bull, I was like twisted. So we ended up going in, we sat at the stage. We went inside the mom's being, and we sat at the stage and just, you know, just enjoyed ourselves right then and just, you know, watch girls and just chills. And in the back of my mind, I'm still thinking, man, you're stupid. you just quit your job.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Your mom's going to kill you. So from there, we ended up leaving. I gave him a ride back home to his house. And went home, jumped in the bed, and I thought laid in the bed, like, damn, I don't have a job. Where am I going to get my source of income from? And, you know, I mean, I have never thought about doing crime or committing any kind of heinous act I just
Starting point is 00:21:36 from that point there it kind of like hit me you know what this is what I'm gonna do they pissed me off I'm going back so I waited a week
Starting point is 00:21:53 until all the money that I had in my pocket and my check I think I had just received my check and I had to give my mom probably like half of the check And I put a plan together. I got up a few guys that I knew, and I said, you know what? I want to go back and hit that door.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I want to hit that store. I want to go and do woo-woo, and this is what we're going to do. I know everything to lay out inside and out. So we got everything we need, all the necessary material, all the equipment that it was going to take to pull it off. And that morning, which I was going to take, was like on a Friday. I wanted to hit it when I thought they had the most money inside the customer service and the most money inside of the safe. So I had set up a plan for one guy to
Starting point is 00:22:46 go over to the produce area because I know there was a phone in there and I know I didn't want anyone getting to that phone. And one guy washed the door and one guy went up to the customer service with me. So we, we, um, we, um, we, um, we, um, we, um, we, um, we, um, we, um, we, um, we, um, we, um, we, um, went achieving my goal. I went inside approximately like 9, 30, 10 o'clock in the morning when I know it wouldn't be that busy, but everything would be on hand. I successfully pulled it off, made it back. I think we probably got like $15,000, $17,000 or something from that, that heist. So I divided that money up amongst us, I think it was four people. I divided that money up and I went about my business.
Starting point is 00:23:45 So once that money was spent, I say, you know what, we're going to go do the other one. So I got my guys together and we decided we're going to go do the other one and I went to the one on Hillsboro and Armenia and I also did that one. The craziest thing about this one was that I took every coin that was in the safe. I took all the bills. It was like, I'll say like $6, $700 and ones. There was like $500 in quarters, a couple hundred dollars in dimes, nickels and pennies. But the reason why I said that because on the way out, I had so much weight.
Starting point is 00:24:31 inside the duffel bag. It was hard for me to get it on my shoulder to try to get it out of the door. So one of the guys was trying to help me. I had a bag boy trying to intervene, trying to stop us or something. But my guy, you know, did what he had to do to keep him from intervening.
Starting point is 00:24:52 And by the time I made it to the car, got the bag in there, made it to the second car. It was a rap. But as time went from there, I did end-in-not jobs. I worked at car dealerships. I worked at Ed Morris-Cadolite, probably from the year from 90, 91, 92, 93. I started my bank robbery career around 93, 94.
Starting point is 00:25:24 and I got in net just simply by my brother-in-law knew a guy who wanted to rob a bank. Now, I, you know, growing up as a kid, you hear people them, oh, yeah, I want to rob a bank, man. The only way you got rob a bank, you got to rob a bank to get that kind of money. Oh, you got to robbing the bank. And I was like, damn, robbing the bank.
Starting point is 00:25:49 If you were robbed a bank, you'd be a millionaire, man. You know, that's the mental. had growing up as a kid, as a young adult. So my brother-in-law, my brother-in-law came to me one day. He was like, hey, man, check this. I know this guy, man. This white guy, he wanted to rob a bank. You know, he's looking for somebody.
Starting point is 00:26:08 He knows easy lick. I was like, yeah. Bring him to him. I want to know. I want to meet him. Bring him over here. So, like, two days later, he brought the guy over, you know. We sat and talked for a minute.
Starting point is 00:26:24 He told me about the bank. You know, I said I want to see it, take me to it. So he took me to the bank. I was trying to see what the people were doing because it looked like they had to be buzzed in. I was like, they got to be buzzed in. The first bank I did was the one on Hillsboro and Hibana. I think it was Florida Bank or something similar to that. It wasn't a big name brand bank or big branch.
Starting point is 00:26:57 It was just like an independent, a small bank. But anyway, you had to be buzzed to get in. I was like, man, look, I don't want to do no bank. You got to be buzzed to get in. What about you got to be buzz to get out? He's like, no, no, no, I already been in. You don't have to worry about that. Once you get in, you're like, are you serious?
Starting point is 00:27:15 He's like, yeah, bro, man, it's going to be easy, man. I'm like, fuck it, let's do it. So it's like, I'm going to get the cars and everything. And then, I was like, I get the scraps and I get everything else. You know, we're going to handle this. So we picked the day, which was going to be on a Friday. And we picked that day because we felt like that's the day that the most money would be in the bank and the tellers. Because Friday is normally check-cashing day.
Starting point is 00:27:43 So we, you know, we felt like that would be the best day to do it. So I picked him up around 10, 10.30 or so I wanted to make sure I'm around there hitting the bank around, like right before lunchtime when I feel like people was going to come and be doing their thing and getting the check cash. And it was going to be the most amount of money and the tellers at that time. So I picked him up. We go get our first vehicle, you know, a stolen vehicle that he's. use a screw driver to get. I think it was a Mustang 5.0. It was. It was a Mustang 5.0 with like a halacious engine and it was all souped up and everything. So we go get in the first car and our second car was a Nissan maximum that I had. We had got from Nissan or Tampa
Starting point is 00:28:43 we had keys to it and everything. So we had parked that behind. the published because it was in like a public shopping center and the bank set up on the corner of Hillsboro and Havana. So we're on our way heading west on Hillsboro right before Armenia. I got me, my other guy, and the person who originally wanted to do the bank and sitting in the car with me. So when we pull up the Hill, Burr and Aminia, this guy, we already ready. We got the club, we got the club, we got the bag, we're ready, we're trying to get down.
Starting point is 00:29:26 So when we pull up the hills, Burl and Aminia, this guy tells me, he starts crying. No, Rob, man, I can't do this, man. I can't do it, man. No, I'm on probation. I'm on probation with the fed, man. I can't do this, man. If something happened, man, I'm going to go away forever. I looked at him like, damn, hold on.
Starting point is 00:29:44 just chill. I'm thinking in the back of my head. Is this some shit? I say, Dana, what's that? What's up, buddy? What's you want to do? He's like, man, whatever, raw, raw. Whatever you want to do, I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I say, fuck it, come on. I pull it over to him. There was a little crystals hamburger right down the corner like a million hills, bro. There's a crystal. So I pulled into there. I dropped him off. Bam.
Starting point is 00:30:09 I say, just wait right here, man. We're going to do this. So, me and Dana. Dana Gragg jumped up in the front seat with me. We pull out of crisps. We pull up to the bank. So when we pull up to the bank, we got dark tinted windows on the Mustang. So we're sitting out front, and we're waiting to try to get in because I know you have to be buzzed in.
Starting point is 00:30:30 So I say, Dana, you see these two old people right here? Soon as if they get that door open, when they go, they buzz in, he's going to hold the door open. We going in. He said, all right, so we're waiting for people. They walking real slow. They walked up there. As soon as he pulled the door When they go in, me and Dana out of the car
Starting point is 00:30:46 I'm the first one in the door behind the people Dana pushed them on the end He stood at the door I'm over the counter, bam I'm hitting all the table Now check it This is my first bank It happened so fast
Starting point is 00:31:01 But in slow motion That I can almost remember Everything that happened I can remember Dana standing by the door There was a little kid trying to run out of the door He kept him from running out of the door I can remember, even though I'm at the tellers pulling all the tellers, even at the drive-thru, I can remember the bank manager walking through with just like with a graceful walk,
Starting point is 00:31:25 just saying, just give them whatever they want, don't do anything, whatever they want, just do whatever they say. So I'm still handling my being the doing what I'm supposed to do, and then. Dana, like, let's go, let's go. Boom, I jumped back across the counter. Boom, we got out of it. jumped in the car, went around the back of Publis where I had the second vehicle at, bam. See, the reason why I parted the car behind Publis because I wanted to give them a sense that I was driving down Hibana
Starting point is 00:31:53 because they're going to see me coming out, driving down Hibana heading south. But I dipped behind the Publix, jumped into my second vehicle, and came out on Hillsboro and proceeded to go down Hillsborough heading east. So I'm going to have all the polio. Oh, they went that way. I'm having them looking that way. when Ashley, I'm in the second vehicle in a totally different car, a totally different color, heading in the opposite direction.
Starting point is 00:32:17 So anyway, Greg had a ride. He met me back at my house. We counted up the money that we had, and Greg was like, man, I can't believe it. Man, you did it. Man, I can't believe. Man, I can't believe it. So this is the guy who started crying at the red light on, I mean. who didn't want to do it.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Even though he didn't participate, I still broke him off. I think I got like $8,700, $8,700 out of the first one. Very disappointing to me. But nevertheless, I think I gave him like $500, $600,000 just for being there. Plus, I wanted to make him a part of it. Even though he didn't participate, I wanted to make him a part of it. That way, he don't run his mouth, he don't tell, even though that was going to happen anyway. After that, I was like, damn, my people were like, man, that was easy, man.
Starting point is 00:33:22 We're going to have to do another one. So I waited approximately, like, maybe like three, four months, and we scouted out to do another one. um my very second one i did off uh i for i mean um four street exit off of gandie in st p man really nice i think i gross like 47 thousand i took like 47 thousand out of there somewhere around there, 35,000, 47,000. It was all the same to me. That particular one there, we were just, I just wanted to do something away from Tampa
Starting point is 00:34:14 because it was already hot from the one before. So I decided I'm going to go across the bridge. We went across the bridge. I seen it right there. It was a nice location. It was red off for Gandy and I, um, 4th Street. jump back on Gandy doing my little thing
Starting point is 00:34:30 nice so we got all the material everything all the tools we needed to pull the job off two cars
Starting point is 00:34:40 whatever went over there and we did it it was really easy now this particular bank right here what I can
Starting point is 00:34:49 remember that's really outstanding to me is that in the process of me grabbing all the money and getting the tellers hitting the tellers. I can remember there was about three or four college kids who was standing in line waiting to see the teller. And I can just remember them saying, oh, fucking right, all right, go, go, go. Go, go.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Hell yeah, yeah, buddy, go, go, go. And I was like, damn. So anyway, I hit him, which was a pretty good, pretty good lick. I think I got somewhere between like 37,000, 40,000. or something like that out of there. And made it to the second car, came across the bridge, crossed Gandy, and came to the house and divided among the guys
Starting point is 00:35:36 who I was with. And they went their separate ways. Now, I... It wasn't like it was something planned. It wasn't like that I wanted to make
Starting point is 00:35:55 this a thing or I wanted to be a bank robbery or do banks all my life. It was just something that happened out of the blue. It was just something that I had been doing other things that wasn't really paying off. I mean, my brother-in-law once, he's like, hey, man, I know this guy got like 10 pounds of weed. He got like $20,000 in his house, and boom. You know, I know I seen it in there last night, or I seen in there last week or whatever. I was like, man, you sure, man? So I used to do little things like that, and it wasn't paying up when I got there, man.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Tad the fucking house up, do whatever I had to do to try to find it wasn't there. So I had to end up fucking getting steaks out of the fridge or fucking lobsters or brand-new Jordans or Nike's or something just to make up for the time that I don't. spent trying to find this money which wasn't there so I just got tired and I said to myself man you know what I'm putting my life and freedom and jeopardy going to all these places ain't paying out I need to do something that I know it's going to be money it's there that's their job to have it there and that would decide it that what made me decide to if I'm going to do something I got to do it where is that If I'm going to take this risk, I got to make sure it's worth it.
Starting point is 00:37:30 So that's why I was like, you know, I'm not messing with no more of these petty drug deal with these bids that don't got shit. I'm going to go right way the money's at. So I had did that for a while and end up by my fifth bank, I wanted to do something big. I wanted to not take over the bank because I still was on the time limit but I wanted to get the most and this was the first time I ever used two people, two guys to go over the counter. It always was me because I know what I'm looking for. I'm moving rapidly. I don't want no problem. So I always was the one to get the money.
Starting point is 00:38:16 But this time I wanted to use two because I felt like I'm going to get double the amount. So I scoped out this one bank. It was like on the line ball and Anderson Road or somewhere down there. I think it was like Bank of America. No, whatever it was. It doesn't matter. So I felt like it was a pretty good apartment complex set across the road. I can put my second car there.
Starting point is 00:38:46 I can make it look like I'm going this way. I can pretty much do the same thing and give them the illusion. that I'm heading in one direction when I'm going to the other one. So I got my crew together. We got all the vehicles of the things that we was going to need to be able to pull it all successfully. And we headed that away. So when we got there, pull up in the driveway,
Starting point is 00:39:08 in the parking. And right in front of the bank, we was in a minivan. And the reason why I started using minivans because it's easy for you to be able to change your clothes, stand up in the back of it, change your clothes. and do what you have to do without being seen, sliding door, easy access to get out. You have multiple people, so it was easy to start trying to climb across seats and cars. So we always use minivans for our first vehicle.
Starting point is 00:39:38 So when we pulled up to this bank, which was like approximately like 9.30 in the morning, it was really nice so when I pulled up to the front of the bank and decided this was the time to go in I was the first person through the door on the counter when I jumped over on top of the counter
Starting point is 00:40:01 there was money scattered all over the counter and what I figured and I found out is that Wells Fargo had just made a drop off at that bank and the ladies was counting the bills
Starting point is 00:40:16 and they had it all on the counter laid out. So on top of the counter, I'm on the counter with my bag, just getting all the bills off the counter. So I had another person also with me getting money while I had the other two people holding people at bay. We get into money, we get in the money, we get in the money. This guy's getting the money. I jumped down because I got all the, everything out of the count,
Starting point is 00:40:37 off the top of the counter. Now I'm hitting the drawers. We're getting the money, we're getting the money. Boom. My guy says it's time to go. We jump over it back across the counter to head out, to proceed outside the bank. And when we got back in the van, I'm the driver, always the driver.
Starting point is 00:40:54 I pulled to exit from the bank onto Anderson. I was heading south, so I was making a right on the Anderson, and I was going to make a really quick once I made that bend. I did the view from the bank. They couldn't see me once I made that bend. I was going to dip into the apartment complex real quick and chain it to my second car. soon as we pulled outside the bank the guy who went across the counter
Starting point is 00:41:19 when we were sitting in the front seat as soon as I went to make that turn I just seen inside of the car he had took a wad of 20s which was approximately like $2,000 I'm not mistaken
Starting point is 00:41:35 $2,000 or $5,000 something like that he took a water 20s that had a die pack in it and he shoved it in his pan he was trying to cup cup mean he was trying to keep still from us. He was just trying to get that for itself.
Starting point is 00:41:51 But Lutter that he knew that that was a die pack that blew up in his pants and he was over there sitting while I'm driving trying to get away from the bank. We just robbed his bank. This guy's sitting there like, oh, what is fuck? Look what I was. I was like, what the fuck? I was like, pull it out, pull it out. And he had a bunch of burnt-up 20s and smoke coming out. I said,
Starting point is 00:42:09 throw it out the window. So he rolled him in the window down. He threw it out the window. I'm like, damn, what happened? I don't have. How'd that fuck that happened? And he was like, man, I just grabbed out, I just put it there because of my bag had filled and I just put it in my pen and put it right there. I was like, oh, don't worry about it. Okay, that's right.
Starting point is 00:42:24 So we went to the second behavior. I'm thinking, I was like, this motherfucker was trying to cuff a whole stack of 20s, and the shit blew up in his pants. And the first thing I told him was, watch out for the 20s, especially the ones over to the far left. Most time, it's going to be a die pack. And he grabbed it and not paying attention and it blew up in his pants.
Starting point is 00:42:43 But anyway, we got out at which was a nice day because it was, it was, you know, a substantial amount of money that was laying on the counter. So I probably ended up with like 50, 60 grand from there. Went back to our house, hired out, and divided it amongst the four people who participated in the bank robbery. As time went, you know, I had enough money for that, for a period, for a long period of time that I wasn't really worried about doing anything for a minute. And, you know, I was just chilling out, just doing my little thing, selling a couple of little sacks of weed here and there, and just trying to stay out of the way, stay out of trouble. And one day, maybe like, I don't know, six, seven months, I had someone come up to me. and he said Hey man
Starting point is 00:43:45 I know these guys who want to rob the armored car and I was like man shit an armor car I was like I ain't really
Starting point is 00:43:58 interested in doing the ummer car until he told me man the guy works on the car he's going to be real easy he works for the company so I like for real
Starting point is 00:44:07 oh shit okay I want to talk to him let me talk to him so he brought him over and um it was like a Jamaican guy who works for Wells Fargo I think when he brought him over the guy even had the Wells Farrow uniform on us something like something in that nature I remember seeing a Wells Fargo uniform but anyway he was like yeah man you know
Starting point is 00:44:31 he driving a brand new Porsche he had been taking little individual packs of money from other carts throwing in in his cars when he had to go to Wells Farger I guess I can't remember what the setup but he would tell me some shit like when he had to get his cart sometimes you know it's not watching the way you you know you angle yourself you can slide a pack of money or off for one of the bins and put it in yours and you just got to remember which one it is and he used to like take the cart lower up his truck and he put to the side the one he took from somebody else's been, and then when he
Starting point is 00:45:12 go to make his drops and stuff, he'd get to like a public store or some type of grocery store or a convenience store. He'll go in the bathroom and hide it into the garbage bag, call his brother up and have his brother.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Hey man, you got to get over there real quick and get this money. I just put $50,000 cash inside the bathroom, inside public's bathroom. I'm like, well, are you serious? do that. He had did it like three or four times. So that's how he bought the Porsche. So anyway, I said, yeah, man, tell me about the licks. So he tells him about the Lick, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:45:51 it's going to be easy. It's like about, we get it like $250,000,000. All right, then I want to see it. So the following day he came, scooped me up, picked me up, and we decided to go and check got this lick. So this lick was over in St. Pete. Now, they had took an old bank and converted it into something they called the money store. And this is a building that used to be a bank and all the armored car drivers. That's where they pull money from to take to other banks, other facilities and stuff. So that's why they call it the money store because that's the only thing they did was house money and load up armored cars to deliver money to other facilities. So he took me over there. I'm looking. I'm looking. I'm looking. I'm like, okay, yeah,
Starting point is 00:46:54 I go. I see the guy come out with the money. So I see him throwing it in the back of the armored car. So I'm like, okay, what will we do? I would pull up from the side, catch him from the side when he got his back to me. So as I'm watching, seeing it from a distance, I'm putting my thoughts together, my plan together, how would I pull it off? Always going to be two cars, it's going to be this, going to be that, I need this, need that. So I was like, yeah, man, we can do it. So we went by head back to Tampa, and we decided we were going to do it. So we meet up like two days later.
Starting point is 00:47:42 We meet up like two days later. We have everything we need. We got the minivan. We got the second vehicle. I think it was even a third. We had even a third vehicle. I even had a particular group of people watching me specifically. That if anything happened to me, if I had to get on the run,
Starting point is 00:48:03 that they're going to meet me somewhere, they're going to follow me or meet me at a distance, and they're going to scoop me up. I had, I always had my own safety net. If anything ever happened, they're watching from a distance,
Starting point is 00:48:18 they can scoop me up, take me out of the hallway. So, we got everybody in place. We pull up, we sit in an eye spot. We see the armored car pull up. I got a bulletproof vest on, gloves, skiing, ass, hoodie, everything. He's got the same on. He's got a bulletproof vest.
Starting point is 00:48:39 We have a driver. We're in the minivan. We've seen the armor car pull up to the money store. The messenger. The messenger is a guy who, he's in the back. He does all the movement, moving the money, go in the store. He's the messenger. And also the truck have a driver.
Starting point is 00:48:56 The driver is the person that drives. He only drive. He cannot open the door, get out of the van. but he has, he has portholes that he's capable and able to be able to shoot from. So, once the messenger got the doors open to the truck, he went inside the money store and came back out with a big, like, laundry bin, full of money. We pull up to the side, and when we pull up to the side,
Starting point is 00:49:25 I was the first person out of the minivan. I opened up the door. I had a 44 Red Desert Eagle Red Hawk Desert Eagle some shit
Starting point is 00:49:38 and when I came out the minivan the messenger seen me left all the money right there and ran to the front
Starting point is 00:49:47 of the truck I went to the rear of the truck stood right here just to see where he went I turned back around to start grabbing the money
Starting point is 00:49:55 to throw into the minivan my guy he stood at the back of the watching the messenger at the front of the truck. So when I went to grab the money to throw in the back of the truck, it slipped because of the gloves. It was saran-wrapped money in a square about this big right here, saran-wrapped together with, I think it was in some kind of cloth material wrap first, and then it was wrapped with plastic. So when I went to try to grab it having a gun right here, the money slipped out my hand. That's when the messenger started shooting
Starting point is 00:50:30 at my guy. So they started exchanging gunfire back and forth. So I went down to try to grab the money again, and it was so freaking heavy. I couldn't get it to throw it in the minivan. The driver started shooting at me. I grabbed my 44, and I upped it into the back of the truck where the driver was and now I granted we have a truck I don't know maybe what 10 feet 10 feet long 9 10 feet long I'm not sure how long a truck is I'm a truck but I know personally that the driver was no more than like seven six seven feet from me sitting in the back of the truck I'm standing in the center of the back of the truck where the door is open. He has two port holes that he can shoot out of. I am standing there. When I up to 44 on the first pull, when I pulled it, the gun from
Starting point is 00:51:33 the concussion from the pressure from the gun, it just started going off. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, because I tried to shoot it with one hand. Now, the driver is shooting at me through the hole, and I'm still trying to handle the gun shooting back at him. And he's shooting at me through the porthole, and when I turned to my right and I seen that the minivan was starting to leave, I then turned around this way to my left, and I end up dropping the gun. It slipped out of my hand. I dropped the gun. I ran and jumped inside the minivan because the sliding door was open on the minivan, and this guy was waiting for his brother to get in because he was going to fucking leave me. That's the only thing I can think of. He was going to leave me.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I wouldn't have made it to that van. He was going to leave me. At the time I'm running to jump inside the minivan, the driver and the messenger is shooting out all the windows in the minivan. So when I dived in it, by me diving in it, kept me down, kept me from being able to get shot. But I got shot in my heel, and my buddy's brother got shot in the back of his head,
Starting point is 00:52:46 which raised him, and he was bleeding from the back of his head down. I had on a black bulletproof vest and he had on a white bulletproof vest so I can see the blood leaking from his head down on the bulletproof vest because it was white and the blood was red so I was like damn trying to figure out
Starting point is 00:53:05 where he got hit at but it had got hit crazed in the back of his head and started leaking onto the vest so we made it to our second vehicle as a well we were getting away they were just running down the road the driver, I mean the messenger running down the road just shooting out of the van
Starting point is 00:53:22 trying to stop the van from getting away so we got to the light the light was red he wanted to stop at the light I was like man go go go I made him run the light go to our second vehicle we got to the second vehicle we changed cars and um we made across the bridge back across um I think we came
Starting point is 00:53:40 Howard Franklin across the Howard Franklin bridge and inside a vehicle he was saying that he was going to Orlando to take his brother because his aunt was a nurse in Orlando and he wanted to seek medical attention from his brother with a gunshot wound in the back of his head so all this going on I make it back to my place I'm chilling I'm kind of like stressing going by what just fucking took place and And at the money store, I was trying to rob this armored car.
Starting point is 00:54:24 So I, you know, my girl, she knows all about it and everything. And she kind of comfort me. And we're watching the TV, watching a movie, so I get a knock at the door. I get this knock at the door and my girl goes to answer the door and it's Hillford County Sheriff's Department so I'm like fuck oh shit
Starting point is 00:54:52 so she's like yeah he's here like what are you here for it's like he's got a warrant out for arrest for the Mexico violence I'm like fuck and she's like no I dropped the charges there was something we had a little disagreement
Starting point is 00:55:06 a little argument and I dropped the charges on them and, you know, I'm not holding any charges against him. And he was like, well, the judge still want to see him. They still got the charges for domestic violence, so we're going to have to take him out, but you can come and bond him out. So I was like, fuck, I can't believe it. After what just took place today, this guy has come into arrest me on a domestic violence chart. So I was like, okay, cool, I'm going to keep my cool because I just had to go along with it.
Starting point is 00:55:39 I didn't want to bring no attention to myself. So he arrests me. He takes me down around the corner. I think at the time I stayed on, like, sly and 50th Street, he pulled into, like, a bacon apartment complex to do his paperwork. And at that time, he let me use his personal phone to call my girl to just talk to her while he does the paperwork. So after doing the paperwork, we proceeded to go to Orange Road, which I was booked. in on domestic violence charge. And I had to go in front of the judge in order for him to see what, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:18 what was going to take place. So now, that night, I'm going through it. I'm stressing. I was like, damn, I just fucking try to out this armored car. These man, come and I don't want to be in here, and they find out it's me. And then they try to, oh, Lord, shit, I got to get the hell out of here. I was like, man, this is not good So I'm inside my cell
Starting point is 00:56:44 I'm tripping I'm like Man how did this fucking happen After what happened the day now I'm fucking in here On the same freaking day I was like Okay I'm just wait until I see the judge
Starting point is 00:57:01 So I lay down to go to sleep I think I was in a cell myself at this time. It wasn't too busy, too crowded inside the pod. It was just like a one-man cell. I fell asleep. Inside of me sleeping, I'm having this dream about the armored car robbery that happened earlier that day. I'm playing this shit back in my head inside my dream. In my dream, I'm seeing everything that took place, me coming out, shooting slow motion, everything moving in slow motion, but it was just one particular thing inside the dream that was going on that was confusing the hell out of me. While I was standing or sleeping inside my dream, I kept hearing
Starting point is 00:57:49 this sound was like, but I'm dreaming and I'm like not knowing, not really sure what was that noise, what was it coming from? I know I was dreaming. So I was like, fuck. But when I'm hearing that noise, I wake up in like a cold sweat. I'm like, oh, fuck. Damn. What was that noise? What was that noise? So I said, you know what? I'm going to go by the sleep. I'm going to lay back down. I'm going to go back to sleep. I'm going to go back to that train. And I'm going to figure out, I'm going to slow. I'm going to figure out what the fuck is that noise. So I somehow lay back down. I fell asleep. And I went right back. back to that dream. And inside the dream, I'm seeing it all again, but I'm telling myself,
Starting point is 00:58:42 I need to slow it down, slow the dream down for I can see exactly where that noise is coming from. And inside that dream, when I slowed it down, that noise was coming from the bullets. The bullets that was being shot from the driver who was shooting through the portholes at me. They were just whizzing by me, and that was that noise that I heard in my. dream. So I was like, fuck, man, this guy's rat no more than five, six feet from me, shooting at me, but the bullets are going around me. I'm like, I have some angels. Anyway, eventually I got a chance to see the judge and I think I was on probation at the time he just reinstated my probation, brought me back in front with the person who dropped the
Starting point is 00:59:43 charges against me and just closed the case on the domestic violence charge because the person who dropped the charges wasn't going to testify against me. So I don't think at that time, state was picking up cases and stuff like that. It wasn't just that serious. But I end up getting that case dropped and just end up finished doing my probation for whatever else. I think I had like a Grand Theft Auto or something that I was on at the time. So as time went by, I kind of chilled out, chilled out on doing banks and stuff. I was, you know, just doing a little petty end and all that things, you know, making a few hundred dollars a day here and there, you know. had little connections with weed and just doing a couple sex here and there with friends and, you know, family and people who, you know, were smoking and wanted to smoke.
Starting point is 01:00:46 I was just trying to make a few dollars that way. And after that, I decided to get back in the nick of things. I had this girl come up to me who was my girl's best friend. And, you know, I hadn't robbed the banker or did anything in quite some time. But I was okay as far as money was concerned. You know, I wasn't hurting for nothing. And I had this girl come up to me and she was like, bro, I need you. And I'm like, damn.
Starting point is 01:01:30 What was it? She's like, man, you and I are going to believe I had, I end up having an accident in Ebor over the weekend. And, you know, this girl pulls up and, and I, she ends up slamming her brakes and I end up hitting her from the back. But we both got out of the car and we went and looked at the car and I didn't have any damage to my car and she didn't have any damage to her car. And we just agreed that it was okay. We were just going to go off. but I found that she called the cops and said I did a hit and run I was like what are you serious
Starting point is 01:02:05 she's like yeah man she ended up fucking calling the cops so I want to get my I have that little bit of damage on my car right there I just want to get that fix and I just want to paint my car for for they won't know it was me I like so what she wants me to do she's like man I will do anything man said I don't know what you'd be doing but I know you'd be coming up with money and stuff, but I'll do whatever you can do in my car, I drive, or whatever you want to do, I do it then up to get out of this jam with this car.
Starting point is 01:02:39 I'm like, damn. I like, man, I'll see what's up. I'll see what's up. I'll get back with you. So I'm thinking like, damn, man, this girl going to be messing with me about trying to help her get some money, and I definitely don't want to come out of my pocket. I was like, I don't mind. doing something to get a few extra dollars, but it's got to be the right thing.
Starting point is 01:03:03 So I went on the scout. I went out looking around, try to find something close in the area that we had to go too far. And then I can be able to help this girl for she can be able to get out of her little jam. So I found one which was on Himes. I think it was like a little sunbank or some type of bank, a little sunbank or something on Himes, right between Hillsboro and MLK. And it was like perfect to me because it had those high branches that was like hiding the building for the people to pass her by as the cars going down the street, couldn't really see what was going on because they had those high bushes so high that was surrounding the building. So I was like, damn, okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:03:57 I was like, all right, let me get everybody up together. We're going to get all the stuff I'm going to need to be able to pull this off. And since I'm already got a stolen car hitting over here, I don't have to use a second car because I'm going to have her use her car. That's how I'm going to use her. I'm going to have her use her car. I'm going to break her off with just doing that right there. And then, you know, made me a few dollars in the process. So I say, look, man, chat is up.
Starting point is 01:04:28 I'm Finnegarian and do this lick. I don't know. Did I tell her? Yeah, I told her was a bang, but I just wanted her to wait for me in the spot in my second location. She didn't really have to have too many, too much ideas of what was going on,
Starting point is 01:04:43 but I just want her to be the second vehicle and be in that location. Cool. So I got my people together, so we went in, pulled a lick off, end up getting like $21,000, $22,000 out of there. Got back to the two of the second car was at, left the stolen vehicle. They jumped into her vehicle, not knowing at the time that when we transferred from one vehicle to the next,
Starting point is 01:05:10 there was somebody on the second floor in the apartment looking at the window at us. So we got into vehicle, switched cars, got in her vehicle, proceeded. to go to where I left my vehicle at, for we can just leave her vehicle over here in another apartment complex off of MLK, got in my vehicle. Went back to my place, broke everybody off, and everybody went on a separate way. So this is the story that I heard that in the process of us dropping off the first vehicle to get in her vehicle. vehicle, the guy up top seeing us getting in her vehicle. I don't know
Starting point is 01:05:57 if he got her tag number. I know he got the making model, but I'm not sure if he got the tag number or not. But when the police and the helicopter was looking for the first vehicle, they seen I had ducked and tucked it over in this apartment complex. You had to see it from a helicopter because you
Starting point is 01:06:12 couldn't see it from the road because you turn in and you go right there. You had to pull in and be searching or see it from the helicopter. They came over there to get the first vehicle that we went up in the bank in, and they were looking for witnesses, people who were seeing anything. So the guy on the second floor who were looking at the window, mostly seeing all the police
Starting point is 01:06:34 and the cops down there looking at the vehicle we had just left there, and he decided to come down and tell his side of the story, so to speak. Excuse me. So when this guy come down to tell his side of the story, he's told the cops exactly what he's seen. Oh, yeah, I've seen like three or four people. Come get out of this car. They got in another car. They got in this car and decided to pull out and head to Armenia because we were closest to Armenia than we were to Himes and Havana.
Starting point is 01:07:21 So we pulled out and made that right turn and got on the meaner and headed out to our, to the location to distribute the money. Now, they got the information about her car from the guy on the second floor. So when he gave him the color of the car, they're making them all and shit, they started looking for that vehicle. and they found it in the second location that we put it off into another apartment complex they ran the bin number
Starting point is 01:07:57 got her tag number and found out there was her car um at that time if I can remember correctly she I'm not sure how it went down man
Starting point is 01:08:16 only thing I know they knew about her car and they were on her ass. She called me up and told me, man, these people are saying my car was used in some kind of robbery, whatever, whatever, whatever. And I was like, what you said, like, yeah. It wasn't me.
Starting point is 01:08:35 I couldn't have been in my car. It's got to be somebody else for it. Like, you just stick with that story. You don't know shit. Just telling it just like that. So I'm like, oh, shit, it's about to go down. So now, they got some information about a car that was used,
Starting point is 01:08:53 a person who might have been involved and stuff like that, so you already know they're going to be watching. So I'm trying to keep my distance from that person and my furthest distance as possible from that person. But somehow the person, okay, so her nephew used to do little in-law, job with me, you know, little weed and stuff. We used to go get a little stolen item selling.
Starting point is 01:09:18 and stuff like that. And he knew about the things I did, and he was connected to her. So somehow he had some kind of connections with the police. He was involved in some kind of home invasion, and they found in his house a jacket that he had stole from a squad team member's house in Brandon.
Starting point is 01:09:44 So he was already in the system on investigation and talking to the police anyway. Somehow he mentioned my name. I got involved, so they had been watching me. I didn't even know. So around December 23rd, which was my birthday. So, like, well, yeah, on my birthday, I woke up that morning. And we decided we were going to go deep-sea fishing out clear water on the double eagle, deep-sea fishing.
Starting point is 01:10:16 So I was like, okay, my birthday. I'm going fishing, so we're going to take my daughter and drop her off at the daycare. And then my son was going to go with me. I had my son, too. Julian, he was with me. So we went to drop my daughter off. Well, before I went to drop my daughter off, when I came outside to get in the vehicle, there was a fucking large, like, white bread bus, like those bread, those, those, those, those,
Starting point is 01:10:46 those buses that carry bread like wonder bread trucks like almost like a box truck kind of thing where it was like a brand new one sitting outside in front of my house with you know all the other cars and stuff in the parking lot next to my car with dark tinted windows you couldn't see in it and at the time we were having fiber octet lines put down in an apartment complex so I'm thinking And these were the guys who was working for the fiber optic. And they parked so fucking close to my car that I wasn't able to open up the passenger side or the door to put my daughter in the car seat.
Starting point is 01:11:24 So I'm like, I'm trying to look into this fucking van. I'm trying to look into it, but the window's so dark. And I'm walking around by the pool. I'm carrying her. I'm walking around by the pool. I'm like, these motherfuckusks, they better be glad. So I had to put her in through the driver's side to the car seat, lean up.
Starting point is 01:11:41 and put her in the car seat and then, you know, get in. And I had to pull out and let my son get in through the passenger side, and let my girl get in in the front, the passenger side. So we decided to leave, we pull out, and I'm going to drop my daughter off to the daycare, and then I was going to get some breakfast from McDonald's and head back to the house to pick up all the fishing gear and head out to Clearwater. So I'm not knowing at this time the whole time, that I have the feds FBI following me around.
Starting point is 01:12:15 I'm not even knowing I was smoking that morning. I was high, so I wasn't really paying attention. It was my birthday, so it was enough to me to be paying attention that closely to vehicles around me, I guess. I don't know. But I end up going by a friend of mine and let him know that, you know, I'm going out to Clearwater. He owned a pawn shop. that used to be Reddell in Hillsboro and like Rome, Rome, yeah, like Rome, Hillsboro and Rome.
Starting point is 01:12:48 He owned this pawn shop. His name was Rock, Rockamar, a real good friend of mine. And I stopped by, I say, hey, man, check this out. My birthday, the day I'm going out of clear words. He's like, hey, man, when you get finished coming back from fishing, just come over here, I got something for you. I said, all right, cool. I see you when I get back.
Starting point is 01:13:09 So I turned out of the pawn shop Because I live right down the street From where his pawn shop was at An apartment complex over there So I pulled it out I'm heading down towards apartment complex I pull right in front of my apartment And I'm getting ready to get out
Starting point is 01:13:25 So I put the car in part And I look up to the left side of I lived on the right side on the second floor But I looked up on the left side On the second floor I seen two white guys with like they had on the same thing like jeans and like just two shirts white shirts i'm thinking they might be like um some cable guys or you know someone trying to sell something so i happened
Starting point is 01:13:51 i just peeked up there and i seen them so i put the car in part when i turned the car off and went to open up the door the whole squat team that was in that band was on my ass and they were so happy they got me they were like persistent pays all right and um the wine guy's like hi hey how you're doing i'm i'm in charge here i'm sergeant macklemyr and happy birthday and um persistent pays we've been out here since six o'clock in the morning we could have got you when you first came out with your daughter but we didn't want to do it out of way we didn't want to traumatize your kids so we waited to a convenient time for us to get you so you know that you know that you this guy, you know that guy? And long story short, I was booked in here, well, I went to
Starting point is 01:14:45 Orange Road and then they moved me from Orange Road to Morgan Street, which was our county and federal holo facility in Hillsburg County. I was booked in and I never seen the streets again for eight years. That day, I was booked in. I was charged with armored car robbery and some
Starting point is 01:15:15 home invasion kind of stuff that the kid had told the sheriff about that's how they got on to me and then they started connecting the dots and putting everything together.
Starting point is 01:15:29 So I was booked in for armored car robbery and approximately six to seven home invasions at that time I was like
Starting point is 01:15:51 I'm never going I'm never going to see the streets again I'm never going to get out matter of fact the feds came to interview me, they pulled me in to the room, and they go, you might as well tell us everything you know, because you're never going to see the streets again.
Starting point is 01:16:10 I'm like, shit, since I'm never going to see the streets again, I ain't telling y'all shit. I'm never seeing the streets again. Ain't no sense of me having to say anything to y'all. Well, we got your wife, we're going to get your wife to, and you know what? She's going away for a long time. I'm like, hey, man, y'all do what you got to do.
Starting point is 01:16:28 You do what you got to do. I ain't telling y'all shit. I don't know shit. I ain't never seen the streets again. So they left. They were pissed. So they took me back to my cell. I called my girl up. I said, hey, man, look, don't ever, don't leave the house. Stay in my mom's house. Don't leave because they say they're going to get you. They're going to charge you with this, that, and the other. So if I was you, I wouldn't leave. Just stay in the house. So the day, the next day she gets up. She tried to leave. She tried to leave. she decided she wanted to go out from my mom's house on 34 up and MLK go to the bus stop and get on the bus and head down to her mom's house.
Starting point is 01:17:12 So as soon as she came at the house and went and stood on, MLK, the feds pulled up to her and arrested her with my daughter and took her and booked her hand and charged her with all these charges that they tried to throw on me. the reason why they did that because they wanted her to tell on me and I told her look man do what you got to do you have to be on the street tell them whatever you feel like you have to tell them you know do what you got to do don't worry about me I got me so
Starting point is 01:17:47 they let her out and she I guess she was like showing them that she was trying to she was cooperating with them you know you know telling them so much tell them pretty much the shit they already knew to try to make it look like she was working with them. And then, I was like, man, look, don't even sweat it. Just do what you got to do of shit. I'm the one who got myself in this. I'm the one going to get myself out. So when I got booked in at Morgan Street, I already know about not talking to people when you get booked
Starting point is 01:18:21 in. People try to get on your case. They want to try to get time cut, reduced from telling on you or what you said to them, they got shit. So you do not talk to no one, period. You try to refrain from having conversation with anybody when you place in that position. So one day, like my second or third day in there, I think I'm having chow after chow or something, and I had this old black man come up to me that I never, I never talked to this guy. I don't even remember if I ever seen him before in there, but he just came up to me and he goes, Hey, buddy, he's like, you, uh, you ever heard of a proffer agreement? I say proffered agreement, no.
Starting point is 01:19:06 He's like, well, if you ever did anything out there and you never got called for it, you may ask you a lawyer about a proper agreement because if you get on this and you get sentenced for this, this charge right here, and then somebody out there to say, oh, I did this with Rob, Batman, what I did it with him, then they can come and re-indict you and get you consecutive sentence on top of the sentence that you're on. I was like, damn, really? So I knew I had there, like, 10 bank robbers. I was like, oh, freak, man, I'm going to call my lawyer.
Starting point is 01:19:40 So I called my lawyer, and I say, hey, buddy, how are you doing, sir? I was like, you ever heard of a proper agreement? I was like, what's a proper agreement? You're like, a proper agreement if you have some crimes that was committed and they were never solved, no one's never been charged, with it and it have to be information that the prosecutor or whoever they're willing to to listen it has to be something they think that's good substantial that they can be able to crack these solve these cases I like what if I know about somebody that robbed 10 banks
Starting point is 01:20:17 because I really didn't want to put me out there right then yet so I said what if I know about someone who robbed 10 banks and he's like if If you know about someone to rob 10 banks, you're going home tomorrow. And I was like, really? I'm like, damn, I'm going home? He's like, man, if you know about 10 banks and the guy never got called, you're going home. I was like, okay, well, hey, go tell them, whoever you need to talk to, tell them that I know about 10 banks. And I want to see what they can do.
Starting point is 01:20:52 And so he went and talked to the federal prosecutor at the time. And my federal prosecutor, man, I can't. He was a blight guy. He was a black federal prosecutor. And I can't remember his name, but I do want to say like a year two later after our sentence, he left being a prosecutor here in Florida and went to. Washington, D.C. to be President Clinton's Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense or Secretary for something. And he came, talked to me, and told me what the deal would be. He's like,
Starting point is 01:21:40 look, I am making you no promises. I'm going to send two investigators to talk to you in the beginning of the week. And if it's something that I'm willing to listen to, is something that I think might be good, helpful for my case, then I'll get with your lawyer and we'll let him know what we can do for you. I was like, okay, cool shit, because at the time, shit, I want to help my PSI, my pre-sentence investigation report came back 27 years, and I just knew that, look, I got to be able to help myself, some kind of way. So by the black gentleman, telling me about the proper agreement was something that I like to see something I did. I don't have to say something about someone else.
Starting point is 01:22:26 It's something, the crimes that I committed, if I can use that to get leniency towards my case or my sentence, then cool, the best for me. So I end up being called out that Monday. Now, like I was saying earlier, my prosecutor ended up, like a year later, going to work for Clinton in the White House. And how I know about this is because I was sitting there after my sentencing, I got moved to Brooksville, Hernando County. That was a federal hole over. It was like a CCA, a private jail. And I was just sitting in the TV room one day. the news or something and a picture of my prosecutor came up saying that he just got
Starting point is 01:23:23 promoted to Secretary of State or Secretary or Defense or something working for President Clinton. I was like, fuck, I can't believe this mother. But anyway, so on that Monday, he sent two agents over to talk to me and asked me about the information that I was talking to my lawyer and the federal prosecutor about. And I told him, All right, come in. How y'all doing? My name's Robert Edwards. We went inside the chapel.
Starting point is 01:23:54 They had a seat. I had a seat. And I told them about the very, very first bank I robbed. And that was the bank where the guy started crying. He didn't want to rob it with me. I had to put him out at the Chrystall's hamburger, and I proceeded to do the bank without him. So I told them about that bank.
Starting point is 01:24:14 It took approximately an hour, an hour and a half, to take them. an hour and a half to tell them how I came from point A to point B, how I, when I told them about the bank robber, I told them about everything, the planning, how I came up with the idea, how what I wanted them to know specifically about everything that took place in order for me to be able to pull it off. I mean, because if people already said, look, don't hold shit back. if you, we want to know everything. If you tell us or lie to us about anything, we'll take it away. We won't give you credit for the information that you gave us. I'm like, well, I'm going to make sure they had, know, everything. So, um, so anyway, I told the story about the first bank I arrived.
Starting point is 01:25:03 I think I only told like one or two. I think I was able to get into the second bank at that time after I told about the first bank. there was an older FBI agent in a younger one. The older one was approximately, I'm going to say like 65, and the younger guy, he was like in his early 30s. So when I told him about that first bank that I robbed on Hillsboro and Havana, we finished up that day. I went back to my cell and they came the following day. now when they came to get me the following day the two agents was already there
Starting point is 01:25:46 waiting for me outside the door of the chapel and as I'm walking up with the CEO the younger guy came up to me like he was like oh fuck hey bro man you know I went back and I I pulled the movie I pulled the video recording of the break that you robbed on Hillsborough and Havana
Starting point is 01:26:08 He's like, bro, fuck, soon as you open up the door, your first step, you're over the fucking counter. Like, so fast. He's like, man, why are you playing basketball or football? He's like, man, you're fucking quick. You were in and out of that place. And I'm standing there looking at him like, okay, yeah, I'm like thinking to myself, like,
Starting point is 01:26:29 this is an FBI guy. He's like fucking pulling me. He's like pulling my dick about what I've done. Or, you know, he's like cheering for me. like, you know, boosting on my eagle or something. And I was like, wow. He's like, man, bro, you should be playing football or basketball or something because as soon as you open up the door, your first step, you're over the counter,
Starting point is 01:26:51 like in one leap. And I was like, I had to do what I had to do. I had to get in and out. But anyway, I'll make a long story short. I proceeded to finish up telling them about the banks that I robbed, how I did it. where they were done, how much money was taking, what I was wearing at the time. And by me doing that, they knocked from a 27-year sentence, knocked me down to a 10-year sentence.
Starting point is 01:27:20 They knocked 17 years off my sentence by me telling them about the 10 banks that I robbed and never got called for. Now, I'm not saying that I'm proud or I'm bragging about anything. I'd done. I guess at the time, it was something that I felt like I had to do at the time because of the situation I was in. I felt like by me getting a job having to put a weekend, you know, a week in a hold before you get your first check, and I'm already behind in my rent. I'm already laid on my electric, even though there was no excuse, but I felt like I needed money then.
Starting point is 01:28:02 I feel like everything I did throughout my life made me the person I am today. I respect me a lot because I'm still a people person. I still, you know, help people on the street. I ran my own business. I had at least throughout the years, in the last 12 years of me running my own business, I had at least 15 people working for me and you can ask any one of the 15 people about me what kind of person I am.
Starting point is 01:28:41 I'm always going to be good at what I do. I'm the type of person that feels like if I'm going to do it, I'm going to put my best into it or I'd rather not do it at all. I'm going to be the best. I don't even compete with people anymore because I am going to do it. to outdo anybody who entering with me, pretty much so to speak, because that's what type
Starting point is 01:29:09 of person I am. That's what kind of work mentality I have. I want to be the best. I want to be the best at what I do. And if I do it, I want to be the one that stand out doing it. And me robbing ten banks me robin ten banks for such a period of time never getting caught I never once got caught
Starting point is 01:29:38 in the action they never even got close but I could say this that have out of all the people in the world I'm probably one of I'm very few people that's walking the street that's robbed ten banks in the armored car
Starting point is 01:30:05 and still out here on the bricks I mean my brother-in-law came to me one time he said to me like man I'm going to be honest with you there ain't many people out here like you and I was always used to be like, damn, what do you mean? Robbed ten banks in an armored car.
Starting point is 01:30:29 It's not like stealing some gum inside a candy store. It's not like jumping over somebody fence and taking the basketball out of their yard. And I'm still able to sit here and tell my story. when every time, each and every time, my life and freedom was jeopardized. So I wouldn't really take back anything I ever did throughout my life because of the simple fact I think that made me the person I am today. For a fact, I know it made me the person I am today.
Starting point is 01:31:10 And I'm 56 years old, and I really enjoy being the person. person I am today regardless of my past, my background, my history. If I was to die today, I'm comfortable with everything I did through our life. I'm happy just for me being able to make it to this age and being the condition and the shape and the health that I'm in because of I didn't have a hard, hard life. but it wasn't a silver spoon it wasn't easy and I just want to thank everyone for listening to me
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