Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Meet The Youtube Pickup Artist Making $50K/Month

Episode Date: August 4, 2023

Meet The Youtube Pickup Artist Making $50K/Month

In our business with picking up the girls, you don't get with the women. You do the video, you get the content, you take off. Because that's obviously going to be a hindrance to continuing along this enterprise when you suddenly have a girlfriend who's saying, look, you can't do this. Well, so that's what happened. I brought him to like a menstrual incident. Oh, you're saying there was an issue. There was, yeah.

Okay. There was some big issues. We finally meet up. Like, he wouldn't even like dab me up. He wouldn't shake my hand or anything. He's like, Eric, like, quote, Eric, I see you as like a giant rat right now. Now, I'm being kicked off. So who's really the issue?

That's how all my friends before I went to prison, the only reason we were friends is because being around me made them money. Hey, this is Matt Cox, and I'm here with Eric Davis. He is a social media pickup artist, and we're here to find out how he's making over $50,000 a month. So what's going on? Cool, Matt. Well, I appreciate you having me on. Thank you very much. We already talked beforehand.

Yeah, yeah. We've talked a little bit. But yeah, man. So I'm the CEO of EA Productions. It's basically a social media growth agency, you could say. We do a lot of production, video editing, social media account management and all that. But yeah, dude. TikToks. Yeah, TikToks, short form video, Facebook. We're really being in the Facebook right now. So, yeah, that's kind of really what my company is about. but how I started is I went from really college dropout to, you know, a big ride, a big journey and now I'm here. Okay.

And we met like, is it a year ago? Yeah, we met a year ago here actually. Yeah, yeah. You were going to, you were thinking about. Yes. Kind of like the whole influencer house or what would you call it? Content creator house, right? Like so, and you were thinking about moving in here.

You came. You checked it out. I met you through Tyler my booking agent which is funny every time I've ever asked well what do I say

what do I call you he's always like he's always like you know whatever you want to call me I don't know I don't know now I think even he says booking agent because I started just saying look I'm going to come up with so I can't just say Tyler

no like you know so I came up with I said I'm going to call you my booking agent because that's what he was doing and now he introduced introduces himself as I'm a booking agent and Tyler's been done from sales for EA'd as well okay he's been I wouldn't I mean I've said that to some people he's my president but he's a great guy so right no he is he's he's it's funny too because he's always helping out for for no reason like for the first six months

to a year every time he would help me and or introduce me people would say what is what is he what is he and I would say I don't know I don't, you know, I don't know. He never asked for money. He never asked for me, me for anything. And I remember I said, look, at some point, I'm assuming he's going to turn this into a business of some kind. And I think now he is kind of trying to help him to do that. Trying to shift it to a business.

Because he's super good. He knows everybody. Like, you know somebody who knows somebody. He knows somebody in like every genre. So if I'm low on people, like I'm like, man, listen, I don't have anybody booked next week. I just have to call him. He's like, okay, hold on. and within 30 minutes I've got four or five people he's like this guy this guy did this

he can be on next week this guy can be on next week this guy can actually fly in so anyway I'm sorry go ahead yeah cool that's really it yeah I mean there's I can tell you more about I guess my story right I was going to say what like where were you born like how did you get into doing this so I was I grew up right outside of Boston about 20 miles outside Boston West and in a small town called Southboro Massachusetts shout out to myself bro people but but um basically yeah so um at like 16 17 like i always knew that i wanted to do something different not really like the the track of the normal you know people where you grow up and you say hey i want to go to college and i want to be in finance and i want to

work in a bank or do this and that right so i was always told that that's what i would have to do like i i grew up in a very middle class family where it was like we didn't have everything but we had you know as much as we wanted yeah so enough enough that you weren't struggling but exactly so you know a lot of people say that like they grew up poor and stuff but that was not my you know upbringing i grew up very you know modest household uh so at like 16 17 17 I was like, okay, you know, I kind of had a realization. I was like, you know, I see the people who grew up in certain situations, whether they're very wealthy or they're very poor.

And I'm like, okay, well, I don't want to just live off my parents or live off like, you know, this. I kind of want to do it for myself. Right. So, you know, I always had a job. I worked at a Chinese restaurant. I worked at like stop and shop with the grocery store. I worked at a gas station for like two years.

and I'm like okay I'm content I'm like I'm cool you know I live in Massachusetts but like it's not enough I want to live like the luxurious life I want to do this I want to travel I want to go see things and then I really was like okay I there came to a point in senior year of high school where I just wanted to be different so I like dropped out of high school I just stopped going there was no like real reason for it i just wanted to be different in a sense where okay i want to figure it out on my own right uh so i just stopped going then later on i'm sitting the senior year after i'm sitting there everyone's graduated all my friends are going to college and i'm like damn like this sucks like now i understand okay i'm working at a gas station it's like

100 degrees outside and I'm pumping gas like do I want this for myself and I'm like no so what I do as I approach my school I said hey you know I kind of messed up like can I finish my classes I only literally had two months of school left so I expedited it got my degree uh you know high school degree and then I'm like okay well now I want to go do something I want to do stuff that other people have been doing maybe this life is for me maybe I go to college. Maybe I start, you know, doing something. So what I did was I wanted to be different again. So I took all my stuff at 18. I drove to Arizona. I moved there to Tempe, Arizona, where there was like a ton of people my age. Never been there before. I enrolled in Arizona State University.

And that's where I met, you know, a ton of, you know, YouTubers and social media influencers. And I can talk about that a little bit. In college? In college. That's right. So Arizona State University is one of the largest campuses for social media influencers. So like Cody Pearson and that was epic and Big Dawes TV and Stephen Shapiro, that just happened. They all go and film there. So they do pranks and interviews and they talk to college girls there. They do like the pickup videos if you ever seen that. So yeah. But in Arizona, ASU, I was like school still not for me. I'm like, I always were trying to find a way to make money. So I had like a little, I'm very good at Excel, like Microsoft Excel. And I had like an Excel business doing people's

homework. So there's about 3,000 ASU business students, which is ASU is one of the largest universities in the country. And there's 3,000 students. I did about 1,500 of their homework, like of all of their homework. So, you know, graduating class of 2023, they all cheated basically. in the business school so but i i was i always found a way to outsource things so i had um you know i had like four kids under me that i would pay them per assignment and then i would upcharge the clients essentially right so i made a little business i made 12 grand free and clear um and if you just a what a couple months yeah yeah in one semester so you know about three and a half months yeah so what what how did that why did that stop that stop because

some girl got angry at me and actually told on me, told, like, the dean. And they were, and I got, they called me in, I got on academic probation. And I was like, I'm screwed. Did you deny it? Did you, were you just like? No, I told them I did. I was like, I was like, yeah. You got me.

My bad. Yeah, I'm like, sorry. Like, I was, like, I guess I was the ringleader in it. Right. So, but they. Well, you already said you, you had multiple people underneath you. If not the ringleader, you're certainly one of the guys at the top. That's right.

So I was the guy at the top, and they caught me. And I was just like, okay, yeah, I did it. Like, what's my punishment there? Like, we're putting on academic probation. You won't be able to graduate on time now. Right. And like, so then to me, I was like, okay, I have to spend more money to do this. Well, yeah.

So I had to find another job, but I was still living in Arizona. So I applied for this job at AZA-10, which is Amazonic logistics company, kind of outside Amazon where we handled like logistics for packages and stuff I had my own little cubicle my own little desk it was super weird because at like 18 19 you know someone going into work in an office let alone Amazon right um it was just weird because everyone had college degrees there were 30 and like and and I got the job just because I like had Excel skills like they interviewed me still and I was like okay this is what I did they loved it and I was like oh interesting Like I got the job, so it was cool.

So wait, so you told them? I didn't tell them. I just told them I was very good at Excel. Okay, I was going to say, I can't go back home. I'm dropping out of college because here's why. Yeah. So while I was working with Amazon, I met these YouTubers called That Just Happened. So Julian and DeVille.

And that's kind of where my social media career began. I've always seen like videos on YouTube, big avid YouTube watcher. I think everybody is now. But I can't say that's for everybody. But yeah, so I met Julian DeVille and then I really wanted to learn their business. I've always been interested in money, finance, how businesses work. And so what I did was I just kind of became friends with them, had no intention of like being on the channel or doing anything social media, really. But I just wanted to curious.

And so I said they were struggling. They really were living paycheck to paycheck. It's hard to be a creator. at like less than 100,000 or like around the 100,000 mark, you're not, you're making like not enough to survive, but you're also, you can still get sponsors, but they're not enough to, you know, pay the bills. Right. You need something to supplement your income every single month, which of course cuts into

your ability to. That's why I keep saying, like I feel like I'm six months away from hitting that to where it's like, okay, I can drop everything else and just double down on YouTube. And then I know I'll make money at it. But right now it's like, ah, it's back and forth, back. That's like the struggle with creators nowadays. It's tough. There's no real way around it.

Yeah, well, I mean, but I also think it's what, you know, it's like, look, are, you know. Are you going to, yeah, make it or break it? Right. It's like, are you willing, how bad do you want it? Do you want to live in someone's spare room? If you want to live in someone's spare room and spend all of your time, you want to wake up at three o'clock in the morning, bust your ass, go to your second job, do this. and you want to do that for two years.

Guess what? You can make it. If you don't, if you're saying, no, no, my girlfriend's more important. I also want to binge these series on Netflix. I want to be able to go hang out with my friends. I want, okay, well, if that's more important to you, then do that. Like, I get it. You can't, very few people have both.

Not that there aren't, because some guys put out three videos and they end up with 100,000 subscribers in two months, and they put out five more videos, and they've got within six months they got a million and they're immediately making 30,000 but the truth is that is so very rare you got a better probably you almost have as good of a chance of winning the lottery yeah so you know because I get those guys all the time in the comment section who are like bro how come you don't have more this how come you I'm like but like I'm doing amazing that's right for somebody who came from nothing I mean I'm a 50 year old guy who's well 53 year old guy who's actually almost got a career as a YouTuber like three years ago I was laying in in a prison bed yeah I'm thrilled with

the way things are going you're right I don't have a million subs I may never but my god this is this is amazing it's it's really the journey the creator journey is is different for everybody but it's like it's interesting to hear people's stories I wish there was like a channel that just went through like creators journeys I you know what's funny I always whenever I say tell somebody because I'll meet these guys I'm like why aren't you doing YouTube like you're already making videos or you're already doing this like why don't you just put it set up the camera like and they're like ah you know and it's the same thing that i went through which is i don't have the equipment it won't sound good it won't be good it won't be perfect i was like yeah but that's part of it

that's right so your first few videos are dog crap that's right and then you get to look back in three years and go oh my god but so do your so do your viewers that's right and they'll be appreciative they're like wow look how far you've come like and you know another thing is like people don't want to be butchered in the comment section they don't want to hear bad things about themselves so that's hard like you get over that yeah it's hard it's hard to get over that for most people it's hard yeah a lot of my clients actually now they i have about 30 32 clients they always ask me like oh i'm getting these bad comments should we take the video down or like i'm like hey man engagement's engagement yeah if you want the video to keep being pushed like you know

you got to deal with it and i'm not taking nothing down no exactly so that's just something creators have to deal with in it, Jen, in the sense. Not just that, but honestly, like, probably the best and funniest comments I get are the ones where the guys rip on me. And I was saying that earlier. Like, the ones where the guys, Jess will, my wife will read the comments.

And she'll, she doesn't ever bring me the comments or mention the comments that say, like, you're amazing, you're inspiring. She's like, yeah, yeah, whatever. The ones where someone really butchers me, she's like, oh, my God, he's like, listen to this. And then I read them and then I start laughing. Yeah, exactly.

Listen, when I first did Concrete a couple years ago, the first two weeks of me reading comments where I was just like, this is horrible. People hate me. That's right. But the truth is, for every 10 good ones, there was one bad one. I only focused on the bad one. That's right. Once I got over that, I was much better off. Just how life is.

People, you know, see your bad things. If you do one bad thing, over the 10 good things, they'll always look at the bad thing. yeah well it's that it's also that um i don't know what the idiom is but well you know there's the einstein uh thing did you ever see that that uh video where they talk about einstein went in he was teaching a class at the university and he he starts going through like prime numbers and he starts adding you know like whatever seven nine whatever whatever it was he starts adding them all up he goes all the way to a hundred he misses one just towards the end and the whole class kind of starts a giggle and laugh wow and he turns around he says what's what's everybody

laughing about they're like oh you got you got that one wrong it's actually 90 you put 90 it's 91 and he said isn't that amazing he said out of 14 of them that I got right this entire class only focused on what I got wrong crazy you know like

and then he had a whole thing behind it where it's like you know like that's absolutely not you know not the way like that that one thing only is just I now know that's incorrect but I look at all the things I did correct nobody thanked me nobody told me I was wonderful for that

So it's the same thing Yeah So but you were saying you So you met these guys How were they? So they were barely making it Yeah they were barely making They're 22 years old

22 23 years old I was I think I was 18 Yeah I was 18 So they were barely making And I was just curious How I could help them So what I did

Was when I dropped out of school I said hey I was still like working at Amazon So I was still making money I said hey let me like live with you guys for the summer now if you know anything about arizona summer it's like 110 degrees so it's really hard to film and all the college kids leave so it was it was really tough but have you ever been to arizona phoenix i've driven through arizona and the cones

that were on the highway were actually bent like this they were all they were all drooping it was that fucking it was that hot the yellow the orange cones were melted over and i remember going I hope I don't have to stop. So there's this place in Scottsdale, Arizona, called the Old Town, Old Town Scottsdale. It's one of the largest clubbing destinations in the country. It's really amazing. If you ever have a chance to get out to Scottsdale, definitely recommend. Not during the summer.

Not during the summer. But it was the summer and it's still very, you know, a lot of people still go there. So a lot of people from L.A., they actually just fly there to party and club. A lot of NFL players go there, yeah, all sorts of celebrities. So I was living with them for the three months in their house. I was sleeping on their couch. And we were like, okay, how can we get your channel to the next level? So I did everything in my power to learn everything about social media,

whether it be like to get a higher click-through rate or, you know, to edit a video or everything. because I literally knew nothing. Right. I didn't know anything. So they were my guinea pig in terms of, you know, what my company is today. And a real world example of how I can come in and build a channel. They already had a good, you know, following and a good base. And they've had viral videos before, but they couldn't replicate it.

So we went in. And in that three months, I think we were at 201,000. subscribers and by the end of the summer i think we were over 400k wow and so and we grinded like legitimately that's all we did like and it was nuts like it was absolutely insane we had a great bond it was amazing um you know we would go out film come back and these are prank videos and prank videos yeah or interview videos so like the man on the street interviews where you talk to girls and you ask them like you know cool questions or crazy questions right whatever you want so more sexualized questions okay uh yeah so we were so we found success in the interview

video so we just stuck with it and then we kept doing the uh we would drive to san diego five hours away to to to go film too so once this channel started building momentum we had more you know room to go uh so what happened was i'm trying to remember in my story here and but i think the channel was doing very well uh i had i had stopped or i had stopped going to school and i needed to find something to do because i wasn't getting paid for their help or paid for my help right so i i didn't like ask for any money but that's kind of where i kicked off my own career in terms of doing the interviews because I was a feature on their channel and then I became a regular so that's when I like had my own interview videos where I talked to the girls I'm not sure

I get like 60 million views a month now which is like crazy and um yeah so there's that and then I really was I started making money a little bit on YouTube not that much like I have I had like 10,000 subscribers on your own channel on my own channel So you're doing all the content for them, you're helping them, but you had your own channel. Correct. What was your channel? My channel was essentially the same thing as theirs, but just for myself. Okay.

So everything that they were doing wrong, I kind of did it for myself right. Right. So I learned from their mistakes and, you know, really trial and error on their stuff. And building them up, I could figure I could build myself up. So I found a lot of success on TikTok very early. So I was getting millions and millions of views on TikTok very early. So I, like, built my TikTok to, like, 250K in, like, a month of just interviewing. And I was like, wow, this is nuts.

Like, you know, when you're a creator and you have that first video that's popping off and you get all these comments coming, it's like a weird, really weird experience. And then when you're, like, watching the analytics as the video is going up and up and up, it's a weird mental addiction. I was going to say, I was just going to say it is like a whole, like the endorphism. like you're just like like it's you know initially it's amazing but then of course you know for me like I was like how do I monetize this because like feeling good about myself is wonderful yeah and knowing people like me that's great but at the end of the month like that's not going to pay my rent that's right so how do you monetize that especially on TikTok yes oh TikTok's the hardest I think TikTok

other than sponsors is the hardest platform to monetize because you know the creator fund there is pays pennies legitimately pennies so I think I made $12,000 on TikTok that like collectively right and then sponsors a whole other thing I probably made another like five grand on that shorts is like the same thing like my shorts I have a short that has whatever four or five thousand views and it's like 12 cents yeah yeah it's ridiculous so but I think you can transition those people from TikTok to other platforms. It helps to create a funnel. You funnel those.

It's a funnel. It's a funnel. It's like a sales funnel where, you know, you get the leads and then you bring them to one place and you can monetize it. But yeah. So I started my creator journey. I was done with Arizona. I felt like there was nothing really there for me anymore. I had a good relationship with that just happened still. And then I moved to Atlanta and I live with my uncle there for a while. There wasn't an issue with them? Not then, but then after when I lived in Atlanta, there started becoming an issue. So again, I went to, I was going to, I enrolled in classes at Georgia State University in Atlanta.

And I was going there, I went there for one semester, and I kept finding myself in that same situation where I was like, okay, I don't want to like be held to anything. I want to go make money. I want to go do stuff. And I really enjoyed filming. So I had my videographer, Zach, he's in the army now. But he stuck with me, and he lived in Atlanta with me. And he never asked me for anything. I just couldn't pay him.

Right. But he just enjoyed filming with me and going out and talking to people. So he helped me build my channel tremendously. So when I wasn't in Arizona filming with that just happened, I was filming myself in Atlanta. and in the surrounding colleges. And this is still the man on the street. The man on the street interviews with the girls, yeah.

Can I, I, I mentioned something real quick, because you said, like, I don't, like, you keep saying this. Yes. That you don't want, like, they're like, I just didn't want to do that, didn't want to do that. And, like, I, I know, like, you know, obviously, I know exactly what, what you're saying. Like, I think anybody who goes out and opens their own business

or does something or find something they want to do, like, did you ever, like, I've had guys who have been, Like, you know, oh, I didn't want to be one of those guys that was working Walmart or working as a manager or this and that. Almost like they have a disdain for them. But to me, I always felt like, why am I dissatisfied? Like, I wish I was that guy. You know what I'm saying? Like, I wish I could just go get the college degree, get out of college, go get a job as a manager, have a wife, have a couple kids, teach soccer, like, and just be happy with like, that must be amazing.

instead I'm sick to my stomach I don't want to go to work I'm miserable like that's all like you know like I feel like I don't feel like man I'm too good for that I feel like I wish I didn't feel sick to my stomach that I want to do something

not that I want to do something better but just this isn't making me happy and that's a horrible feeling like people are like oh you think you're better no I feel horrible like I wish I was that guy That guy, that guy probably has a great life. Like, that's the backbone of America. Like, I wish I was that guy.

So whenever people, you know, whenever I say that, I think people think, oh, you think you're better, but I don't think I'm better. I want to be that guy. I'm just, that guy at the end of the day doesn't want to blow his brains out. When I try to be that guy, I wanted to blow my reins out. I was like, I can't do this. I can't do this. I'm laying in bed dreading going to work.

I don't want to do that. Like, I don't want to be that guy. that guy obviously he doesn't you're the same obviously you're the same way you're like this isn't this isn't going to be it for me i can't do this i can't right i'm sorry so i just wanted to clarify that 100%. i felt like i felt i felt i was stuck in a position where i couldn't get out but i needed to do something and and i feel like a lot of people in school feel the same way that i did they want to do something bigger and better than themselves but they can't they feel like they don't have an outlet to do it but I highly suggest like so when I was living in Atlanta with

you know my business and and filming uh doing my interviews my uncle who I you know consider one of my mentors uh he told me you just need to do it you need to go for it like you know you're only going to be young once I'm only 21 years old so he said you know you have to go out and do it so that just happened called me back so what happened was that just happened, called me back. And they, so there was three people on the channel, me, DeVell and Julian. Julian and DeVelle had a disagreement. And that's a whole big thing where they got into a giant fight.

DeVille. A fist fight? Maybe. No. No, not to the... When people say fight, I always think physical fight. Like, you mean like an huge argument? Yeah, a huge argument.

Yes, a huge argument. DeVell didn't want to go film. Julian needed they needed to make money still The channel was doing very well And so DeVell and Julian split up And they They moved apart

They left They just split apart So basically they had like a whole Like YouTube breakup You know what that is It always kills me like this You've reached this pinnacle And you're like the perfect boy band or something

And you guys You can't just get along like you're in a position that people would chop their hand off for and you can't just swallow your pride and get along with somebody else like so it was i can't i can't stand colby why colby can we can't we hate each other you'd never know we we put that aside now i'm just joking that's funny but yeah so they had like their big disagreement um julian claim that develed schizophrenia and we seeing things and it was oh it was crazy you know

we've talked about on on other podcasts as well it's like a scorned lover like your girlfriend breaks up and calls everybody you know and says you know he's gay right yeah what no so there was there was a lot of different things and and I would say DeVelle had some you know things

going on because there was one instance I'm going to tell I'm going to say I'm going to tell the story just just for you and I haven't really made this public at all but there was one time I tried to go help DeVille

so I brought him to like a menstrual Oh you're saying there was an issue There was yeah okay There was some big issues Oh So I like Meet DeVelle And he was very sketchy about

Going to like the place to get help And he was And so we finally meet up Like he wouldn't even like dab me up He wouldn't shake my hand or anything He's like Eric like Quote Eric I see you as like a giant rat

right now like he thought I was a living rat like huge rat and I was like holy shit there's something really fucked up like there's something wrong it's not drugs well I don't know what it was whether it was drugs or something you know mental I don't know but but now de Vell and I speak a lot we speak like once twice a week and he's doing great like he he loves his life so but so he got over that hump but I'm not sure if he did it to get away from Julian or what it was like whether he made that up so that he could um you know separate from the channel but he also didn't feel like he wanted to be uh in that light in a sense where you know what we do as pickup artists you could say is it it paints us in a very interesting light on the internet where people believe that

we're just these horny guys who just want to like you know fuck all these women but in reality we do it because it gets a lot of views and you know we get attention and you know we can monetize off that right so i'm not sure if he wanted to separate himself from that world which he did very well now it's very different you're not a part of it and then so julian needed a videographer and he needed somebody to to film for him so he called me up and i was in Atlanta, he's like, hey, move to Arizona. I'll pay you this much, which was shit. He offered me $1,600 a month, which in Arizona is not, you can't live on that at all. My rent was like $1,000 a month. I had my car, like I paid my car off from Amazon and I had money saved up still.

So I wasn't very, you know, you're ever in that position where, you know, you give some sweat equity for a long long term partnership yeah so um i felt like i was doing that where i would take a little bit but i could see the potential of where it could be uh and so that's what i did i moved to arizona we doubled down on filming that's the only thing we would do we would be our full-time job and then some months and months went by and i felt like i wasn't getting anything out of it so I had to like reapply for Amazon so I worked there again and then um just things just kept going downhill Julian and I's relationship kind of was like teetering I would always reach out to DeVille to like try to get him back and you know help him he was still living in Arizona at the

time and we would always like hear things that was going on and all sorts of weird stuff like him breaking into like his girlfriend's apartment it was so weird like there's just so much stuff going on and you know Julian and I had a hard time dealing with that because we became very close and friends Julian and DeVelle were like friends for like 12 years before that I think like or they were friends since they were like kids so it was very hard for Julian to overcome that and I felt like he was trying to cope with it by getting you know getting with the girls from you know either the videos or you know just just trying to find random hookups so and and in our business with picking up the girls it's it's a number one thing to like you don't get with the women

like you're not supposed to um at least i don't right i'm not saying i haven't but at least you don't so you do the video you get the content you take off exactly you're not really trying to hook up not at all right no because that's obviously going to be a hindrance to continuing along this enterprise when you suddenly have a girlfriend who's saying look you can't do this well so that's what happened okay so he got a girlfriend and And we were starting to make more money. So we just signed a deal with Jelly Smack, who's like my company's competitor. Right.

And they said, they were like, okay, well, we're going to give you 20 grand a month or whatever, whatever it was. Right. We'll give you a $20,000 signing bonus. You can make this much on Facebook. If you don't know this, Facebook makes tons of money in terms of creator space right now. Right. Snapchat and Facebook, a lot of people are. going towards it um but we so i was living in arizona julian got a girlfriend his girlfriend

didn't really like me because whoever i don't know so i made it a mission to fuck her boss because i thought it was funny and i probably should not have done that and so then she got mad at me and then she his girlfriend told him things that were false and untrue about me and what I was saying and then he was like okay you're fired and I'm like oh shit I'm stuck in Arizona I'm fired I don't know what to do and that's kind of where we had our and even your $1,600 is over yep it's gone 600 bucks is done which to me it was not a lot of money at all because I was making like you know three times as much as it at Amazon so I really didn't care, but also we would travel to like L.A. and San Diego, and he would never pay

for my travel expenses. So there was no food included or law, like, all that. So there's your $1,600 bucks anyway. Exactly. So it was like I'm going out of pocket for the channel and for, while he's making this much of money on Facebook. So I was being treated like shit. And he knew that, but he was taking advantage of me because I'm a young guy. I was very dedicated to this. But then there was a whole thing where Julian and I were like the faces of the channel now. So we were all in the channel. So now we have like over 570,000 subscribers or how many ever it was at the time. Now they're like, okay, well, now Eric's kicked off the channel.

So now what are we going to think? What's going to happen? Now, DeVelle's kicked off from Julian. Right. Now I'm being kicked off. So who's really the issue? Who's the problem? Right.

So. Yeah, there's only one constant in this issue. Exactly. And I think the constant was driven by the number one motivator, money. Yeah, you definitely find out who people are when money's involved. Exactly. Like you can have great friends for 10 years and we're the best of buds and then you go into business together. It's over.

It's over. That's why when you, I think when you go into business with a friend, you really need to, you know, have defined lines. of what is expected of each person and you know how what the compensation is going to be yeah it's funny um what i like towards the end when i got out of prison i used to say listen there's only two kinds of people in the world those that will send you money when you're in prison and those that won't and i don't have any room for anybody that's not going to send me money when i'm in prison because that's you know really because that's where that's the defining characteristic of friendship you can both be friends but you know right away who your real friends are when you say hey can you

send me $50 yeah and this guy that you've done everything with you helped him move you did everything you were great friends sons like yo bro i don't know man i just this i got the money order i'm gonna put it in the thing it's in the envelope is in my it's in my glove box i'm going to send it tomorrow i did and then he stopped answering your calls you're like yeah we were friends for 10 years i was at your wedding it's funny i actually find myself really have struggling to send people money. I hate doing it. What do you? Where?

No, like, just friends. Oh, in general, right. In general. Like, if a friend asked me for money, I'm, like, very, very hesitant. Really? Yeah, I don't know why. Like, I'm doing very well right now,

and I, like, have the money to send it, but I just... There's a lot, yeah. No, like, like, you... No, Mooney asked me for money the other day. That's why I'm telling this. See? Yeah.

See? Yeah. But listen, to me, it's like, like, like, if I have it, if I can, I will. But if it's like, okay, my rents this much. This is going to be I'll be cutting it close I'll be like yeah bro

I'll send you this much Like I'm not gonna cut it Like listen my number one priority is me Yeah Anybody who's foolish enough Oh here's my I'll take it out of my rent money But I'll give it to you And I'll figure something

No no no no But if I can obviously I'm gonna send you Send you money But anyway So you think about that Yeah Yeah I don't know I just feel myself in a weird position

Where I don't know I don't really like sending money I think I've been screwed over so many times with money. Right. And that's really my like issue. I think I can't mentally get over it. To me, to me, it's like, you know, oh, can you get 200 bucks? Yeah, I'll get the $200.

Yeah. And if you don't pay me back, then great. Now I know who you are. And I just cut you out of my life. Like I'm not going to be like, oh, it's not a big deal. No, I'll just get rid of you. Like if we had an agreement, I was going to pay you $200 and you didn't pay me back. Well, then now I know that's what it is.

Like, that's how all my friends before I went to prison, the only reason we were, reason we were friends is because being around me made them money. Wow. And when I went to prison and I said, hey, listen, like it's between my mother sending me money out of her social security stipend. Wow. Or you

sending me 50 bucks a month, not even every month, just every once you want 50 or 100 bucks. And I know you've got plenty of money and you're either not doing it, saying you're going to do it and not doing it. Or just say, yeah, yeah, yeah, call me. me uh i'll get the address listen i gotta get it got to call me call me next week and then never

answer my phone call again like now i know you know so you know i don't like i like it's you like you're the problem not me you know because in the reverse that's why whenever somebody says hey man can you this if i can i automatically do it because i've been on the on the receiving end and it sucks to have to ask you know and then i also make sure to pay everybody back like you know like i'm good for the i owe like six million but i'm i do make payments i'm not saying I have the six I'm making payments though

yeah well I got it down to 5.7 million so I am you know I'm whittling it's a small you know I'm it's gonna take a long time

it's it's not unless your YouTube blows up though after this interview yeah this is what it's really it's the red lights the red lights is what's gonna do it

the red lights change everything the red wall the red lights and YouTube shorts that's right if I could get some YouTube shorts

could be that that could be that could be the game changer. The defining factor. Yes. Yes. Much better. That's right. So, go ahead. What happened? I was in Arizona. I had no money, but I had money. I had actually a lot of money saved up from Amazon because I'm very good with saving money. I don't like to spend that much.

So I had enough money to like survive and do whatever I want. But I also felt like I was screwed over so bad. Like just, you know, I'm in this position. Now I'm stuck in Arizona okay I don't really know what to do like I don't want to work at Amazon this I want to just like make videos so what I did was um I I made like a little video and I was like hey this is what's happened um you know I'm not on that just happened anymore I got fired for these like I put it out very vague very and then um Julian didn't like that he made a rebuttal video and while he was So there's this

Their manager named Don Was a big like contributing factor To everything that happened Because he's a very interesting guy He actually was like He's very like snakey in a terms of like he will say He will say anything that you said to somebody else Right

So he's very truthful in that sense But but he sometimes twists things for his own benefit Because he thinks it's funny Okay Which is messed up So get stabbed in prison go ahead oh for sure so he told me that julian was making the video about me and the rebuttal video the rebuttal video and and he would he told me exactly everything that he

was saying in the video so while julian was making his rebuttal video to me i did a rebuttal video but 10 times better right and um and it was just attacking him literally going through all our is saying this, this, this. Him admitting he's cheating on his girlfriend. Him, like, I don't know how you feel about abortion, but, like, he... Here's how he feels. No. Well, he got, like, two abortions from his girlfriend, and, like, he was, like, telling...

Like, he was texting me, like, crazy stuff, and I put in the video, and all sorts of stuff, like, wild. Like, I went relentless, because I had nothing to lose. Yeah, at this point. I thought it was fun at that point. but it was like my career essentially and like I had to show the people that like this guy isn't who he says he is right so yeah it was nuts did you put the video out oh yeah he put his video out he put his video out and it was just like all the comments were hating me the next hour I go premiere on YouTube like the real truth of what happened and then it's like okay

holy shit I have like 6,000 people in the like premiere waiting like to hear this because it was like it was interesting and then he would always go live and like I can't believe he did this I can't believe he said this like uh like he had like so Logan Paul poor poor me yeah right I'm not yeah exactly so it was super funny and then I would just troll troll him troll him I'm a troll so like I was like post pictures um and like I would like tag the location as like Julian's house and funny stuff like that so but yeah that was the story and then I moved to South Carolina so I had money saved up I had a good amount of money saved up so I moved to South Carolina and that's where I currently live right now Myrtle Beach I bought my condo then I'm living in right now I'm doing some renovations and then I got an online job with a tech platform it was like a staffing platform and I controlled all of Florida actually is funny so I controlled all Florida and I would you know do staffing for like nursing nurses and then that was paying my bills and I would just was figuring stuff out and I was trying to continue to film and make money

with my own socials and I was getting good sponsors and making money from Facebook now and then I was kind of like figuring stuff out and then I needed like a new position a new job a where I was like working for myself and that's when I met you know investment joy and I started editing for his YouTube and doing and working with him so I've been working with him for like a year and a half now so it's been awesome who else do you work for um I can't clear I actually can't say who I work for because I have NDAs right but um I work with a lot of um you know big YouTubers doing their you know their short form content and doing a lot of YouTube consulting so

Currently, my company, we do, you know, analytic consulting for creators. But this is all you do now? That's all I do now. Yep. So I transitioned from, you know, editing for investment joy to building, you know, editing powerhouse for a company. And then what I learned from, you know, my whole creator standpoint in terms of doing it myself and working with that just happened and working with other creators that they

were connected to and we were connected to, we, I basically, built my company and I knew that Facebook could make a lot of money and that's kind of where I make most of my money right now in terms of Facebook monetization. Now I make a lot of money just editing but go ahead.

I was going to say well are you putting up your own videos on Facebook or are you doing it for other people and you're getting a piece of both. Okay. Yep. So right now my personal content makes about $28,000 a month for just my content and people think it's stupid and I don't have big

numbers, but you don't need big numbers. You just need views. So, you know, like a part of my 60 million, you know, views, I think like 30 million a month are from just Facebook. And that's where, yeah. And so I basically have built, you know, a few other creators' Facebook pages that are doing well now. And I, and I, and my company takes 50% of it. So, you know, we're doing, we're doing pretty good now and and then we also do like a lot of you know growth consulting so it's been good and short form content and jelly smack it's jelly smack yes jelly smack yep because we we we had a meeting with them right like we talk to them yeah and that's your you're saying they're your your main competitor yes so there's no one really in the you know social media space that's

doing what i'm doing in terms of facebook monetization other than jelly smack they're in a little bit of a different position because they have all sorts of different deals in contracts and maybe we can talk about that later like off camera okay but uh they do all sorts of different deals but the thing that i want is like for for e8 we take an upfront fee as well as like a little back end um where jelly smack just does back end right stuff so they're a little bit more they have to be a little bit more picky exactly they're very very picky right and they actually talk to you first, and then they test your content to see if it will work. And once it works, then they'll sign the agreement.

But I've found not to talk poorly about them because they're my competitor, I don't want to, you know, to do anything bad. But they, I've heard from tons of creators, they drop people very quickly when they don't meet their content, you know, criteria. With Facebook, you need to really be pushing a lot, a lot, a lot of content. There's heavy editing that is involved in man hours and power to get everything that's needed in order to grow a successful page or profile now. So Jelly Smack kind of does exactly what I do. They're worth $3 billion, you know, worth a couple million. So we'll get to that point.

We'll just need to, you know, work at it. Right. Um, yeah, because I was going to say I, I, yeah, you had the booth at the, uh, at Podfest. Yes. Right. Yes. Is that like, is that where you're getting most of your, um, client base? It's funny.

We get most of our client base through referrals. Um, we have, we're starting to set up a good referral program for our clients and maybe we can, you know, get a referral program for your, you. Um, we can throw one in the link if that's okay with you. Yeah. Um, but. what we can do yeah we are doing a lot of like word of mouth so you know um our videos are performing very well for other clients and then they send us to their friends who are creators and that's where we're getting most of it but we did get a lot of business at pod fest and we have tons of

meetings i think i in the last like last month because i think it was just a month ago um i've done like 40 consultations and I think we converted like 10 of them maybe eight which is okay which you sent me a bunch of you did a bunch of example videos yeah like do you want to so you want to throw those throw up one or two of those because like they're the editing is really good right like if it's not you can tell me the one time I was assaulted I had put something together because I was fighting my case I needed copies. So I go in the library, I said, Ms. Green, is it possible? I can get some copies made. She goes, I do not make copies for inmates. I said, okay. So I sit down and then all of a sudden,

two guys approach me. And he goes, you just f***ed us up. We were getting copies from Ms. Green, and you come in there and say that to her. And now she don't want to make copies for us anymore. That was our business. How we were making money. You don't cost me. My money, you're going to pay me. As the week progresses, they bring me a list for $80. I'm getting extorted. I'm like, I'm not going to pay it. So the next day, so I go into the other room and both guys come in and they close the door. He runs over to me and he punches me right in the face. Boom!

Luckily, they're not kicking. They're bending over to beat me up. I hear somebody on the outside say, hey, they both stop and they run out of the room. Somebody told on them. Nobody even liked those guys. They shipped them. S-I-S had told me, I've been wanting to get rid of those two idiots forever. Right.

Thank you. Well, you know, so I was going to say, it's funny. Oh, this is what I was going to say. So when I was seeing these, and I remember seeing you at, at a Podfest, it was just you sitting at a booth. Yeah. I think you had like a ban or something. Yeah. But the more I think about it, the more I think, you know, you should have had a couple of flat screens.

Yeah. And playing them. That's right. Constantly playing TikToks that you've done. That's right. Go to the next one. Yes. Go to the next.

Like that would have been cool because you're, because when you're like, no, no, I'm, I'm really good at this. I really have it. I really know what I'm doing. I'm like, everybody I talk to said that. sat yeah yeah everybody talked to says that they're all good nobody ever says listen i'm dog shit yeah of course you know but i'm i'm free you know nobody says that like so they're like now i've really been studied i really know the algorithm i really understand how it works what they're looking for um but yours you can decidedly or distinctively i think poor word use you it's very

distinctive the difference between you can see one that's heavily edited or edited well and one that's not right you know um because very seldomly do i look at one of when somebody sends me something, do I look at one and think, I'm not sure there's anything I'd change. Like I'm super picky. I almost always. And a lot of stuff's just out of your control. Like you'll, you're using something and I'm looking at, I'm like, ah, that's a grainy

image. But that's not your fault. No. Like you downloaded it from YouTube or you, or just the, the footage that you got was just, it's just not great footage. Like there's not that, what can I do? So, and I, because I remember looking through yours and there's only one or two where it's not great, a great.

it's not a great film quality and it's only for a second or two and it's obviously it's what we sent you because we didn't have the cameras or I was out of focus or whatever that reason was but other than that it's great and I was telling Colby I say

he uses a lot of B-roll because you can obviously you can hide stuff by using B-roll like I'm like this must be like this must have been really bad images and then sometimes I think the stuff we would send you like I was probably talking

Yeah, but we're just stripping it from your YouTube So that's why I'm aware that the quality losses You didn't send him Yeah, I sent you a couple Yeah, we haven't gone through those yet Oh really? No, so well God, then you actually got some of them Exactly

Some of them were great quality Yeah Like some of them were decent But can mind the first four or five No, maybe the first two or three months When we had the old cameras and stuff Like it's just It's like 720

Oh it's just what's not good bro Like there's nothing you can do with that Like, it's going to be fuzzy. Yeah. But you would, you throw up a piece here and a piece here, just a clip here and a clip here. Yeah. And then you, you know, and then you use Broll, Broll, B roll, B roll, B roll. You always do the, you always do the, uh, the text over it.

The subtitles, yep. Right. You don't leave a line. Like, when I do mine, I always tend to leave a little thin line between it. And I've been told like, like, no, they don't like that. Yeah. You got to have the images butted straight up together. Yeah.

Like, there's all these little things that I notice. He does that. He does that. I don't, I don't like that. Mm-hmm. But you're not doing it because you like it. You're doing it because that's what the algorithm wants. They don't want that line.

They don't want this. They don't. So you're just strictly designing them to play to the algorithm. And you're also, your things, like I noticed that the ones that you sent me that were just for like YouTube like a complete story. That's right.

Right? Like sometimes you ever, some people will do them for TikTok and they're like, it's a partial story. Yes. Where it leads you to want to. funnel them to the whole interview you did I told

because when you told we talked about this I said listen bro I want to I'm really only concerned about YouTube yeah yeah you had some concerns in terms of the short phone content and I looked at your channel and I like to send you a text I was like get these down no offense to the other guy but you know what I'm saying well it's funny because the other one you had was the guys that I had I don't know if you ever saw that video so there was a video I made

man my shirts just it's my sleeves are just you're just too big no it's not it i just i'm just shifting around they keep riding up um that's not trust me that's not it um the uh i was going to say like i had mentioned this before we had some guys approach us and they gave us like 10 of like we paid for 10 of them like they gave us a price we paid for 10 of and then after they did it they were saying was it 10 or 5 oh it was 12 like 12 right and then they were and then suddenly they wanted to switch it it was like well wait a second like we've had this whole

we had the multiple conversations where this is what the price was and now that you've done them you're like oh they're taking us longer it's like okay wait how do you not know like is this something you're starting yeah so then it found out

they were just starting it so you gave me a quote you said I'm going to abide by the quote this one time it's a quote yeah like so anyway So we did that.

And then they were, they were, you know, I thought they were okay. They weren't great. They were okay. But it's funny because since then I've got another guy that approached me just for TikTok, right? And I'll talk to you about that guy. He talked to him. And when I talked to him, I mentioned you. I said, okay, well, here's what's going on.

And I told him the whole thing. And then he put up a tick, he said, would you mind if I do a TikTok channel? Yeah. Not for the U.S. He said, I won't do it for U.S. I'll just do it for Canada. He said in like the U.K., I forget what other things. he took he he he did and this was three weeks ago yeah and so he had two different accounts he put

up one of them's got over 30,000 followers right that's awesome oh there's there's there are videos on there that have three million three point two two million one million um he's really good at it yeah and then that one and then he's got two accounts remember one is over 30 yeah I think over I think it's like 32 thousand 32 thousand followers in roughly three weeks and the other one has like I think 8,000 and he's like and he's he admittedly he's like look I'm I'm new at this like I don't know and I or and when he first said US I said no no you cannot do a US one I said I'm I got somebody I'm talking to I said well what about this he goes he said I'll take it down if you have an issue later and I said no I said no no I said I don't think

we'll have an issue um but uh he was trying to explain he's like look the problem like even he's like I don't understand why the one is isn't doing well, and the one is he's even taking the same TikToks, and he strips them down and redos them. So that there's the same story, different video, different, like, completely, like, he alters it in such a way that it would be a new video. And he's really good, but then again, he's also stripping it from YouTube too, right? Like, that's a, he's stripping it from YouTube and then, so they would probably be better quality, although they're really good. Yeah. I'll have to show you some of them.

because I don't think we put up maybe what one or two on YouTube of his of his it we don't have any of it oh it's just him doing it's just TikTok right okay um but yeah he's his stuff's great his stuff's great um but but still like he's learning he'll tell you like he's like honestly he's like I just watch some videos I've been doing this yeah he's in the same department as you yeah where you might even want to like hire him talk to him like he's yeah I might have to I have to I Because he's one of these guys You can tell when you talk to him Like this is like he's I don't think he's thrilled with the job He's working right now He's like this is something I definitely want to get into He said I just kind of want to do it

Until I feel like I'm good enough To be in a position to charge Yeah But I mean look what he just did He put up a bunch of content He's like over 30,000 followers On not even a US based That's right

It's not even US Like because he sold me He said look like it's a much smaller market Yeah I'm not sure if it's a Canadian one this has over 30 or the UK one. And I could even be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's those two

because he didn't open a U.S. one. Because my U.S. one had gotten taken down. Yeah, banned, yeah. Banned, yeah. That sounds negative. But he definitely knows he's clipping out all the curse words. Yes. He's so, we haven't got, well, I don't know,

but I don't think he's gotten any warnings or anything. New guidelines, yeah. But yeah, I definitely need to, we definitely need to talk about, like, Facebook or something because everybody I've talked to is like bro you got to do Facebook you got to do Facebook you got to do Facebook you know and Colby's at his bandwidth right now with what he can do yeah he's got four kids wow four kids and he's got a wife and another whole other family oh yeah somewhere else living in in South

Carolina he's juggling so he's juggling luckily his wife doesn't watch this so but that would be funny if like he called me I got a text one and say you have any idea the problems you've caused. He's a stay-at-home dad, really. Every time I call him, you can hear there's like five kids in the background. They're screaming. You know, they're playing in the garbage. He's yelling about, you know, they're in the trailer park.

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So, you know, he's struggling. But yeah. Yeah. Well, shout out to the editors for, you know, the shorts for you. Yeah. Well, we got to play. I mean, so you're going to play a couple of shorts? Yeah.

They're funny, bro. They're funny. Like the West Watson one, he, he, he, You did one with Wes Watson, did one with Zach, my buddy Zach. Everybody loves Zach. Wes Watson, he's the perfect prison white guy. Just watching West Watson gives me anxiety. This is the definition of over the top.

There's no way he can maintain that intensity. He lives in a different realm. The kind of guy that on the street starts fights and somebody pulls a gun out and then he doesn't get shot. He gets you shot. Unbelievable. Everybody's hilarious, though. And I'm going to start with. my favorite paperwork with the paperwork you know how i roll with it this is a guy that drank a

red bull and died then now you don't now so now you just admit you're a by default step your motherfucker that dude's my worst nightmare bro wes isn't even happy he's not chill he has no chilling him mother fuck take your own advice hey west what books did you read to attain that level of mental strength it ain't a goddamn book this is insanity this is west watson this is west watson He's motivational. I'm going to subscribe. I'll talk to you later. Loves him.

He started a channel a month ago. No, three weeks ago? About three weeks ago? Three weeks ago has only has one video and he's got like 2,000 subscribers. Wow. Yeah. We re-uploaded some of our old ones on there. That we did over a year or two years ago.

We just took some of all over and put him up. He put a different face, a different thumbnail. Yeah. But then he sat right there, told a 10-minute story. and his first real video got like a couple thousand views yeah well oh it's got it well as of like i think yeah within two days it had like over like what two two thousand 22 2300 now i don't know what it's got now well might have slowed down but um he's got a thousand subscribers already yeah yeah 1.15000 and uh first video 2 000 views 2 500 yeah yeah he's yeah and he you know he everybody

loves him loves him like he just he's he you know he just laughs all the time he's funny he's got all these stories he's uh you know he definitely has that whole self-effacing humor you know the same kind of humor I have like you can't go to prison and not completely realize that you're just a douchebag

and be able to make fun of yourself like hardly unless you're Wes Watson or or Big Hurk or something and then you come out of prison you think you're like then you you come out and you have no sense of humor yeah um but yeah but the West the videos you did were hilarious or the TikToks you did yeah of course those were funny videos yeah yeah so that's

cool it's i mean now i feel like i don't do anything in my company but it's like i do do a lot but yeah so we have great editors so i'm very appreciative of them and all they do so it's great we think we have 32 employees now what is this is he just your driver last night he was my driver No, my friend Mooney here, he's from, yeah, we grew up kind of in the same town in Southboro, and we met on the bus. It was kind of funny story. But, no, he's helping me film, so I'm doing my own interview content in Florida for all of March. And so I'm going to do a whole year of content in one month.

So I hired Mooney here to help me with my videography. Well, how often do you post? So we post three times a day on all platforms. And you're going to do all that within a month. You're going to do a whole year's worth of content. Okay. Yeah, it's very doable. It's a lot of work, but it's going to be great.

What are the interviews? What are the questions? What do you talk about? We have all sorts of questions. So last year we did a video. I don't know what your monetization abilities are here. Like, we did a, you know, how big. We did how big is your booty.

Okay. So we went in and we had like a tape measure on spring break in Fort Lauderdale and like we measured girls' asses like how big is your booty? Like we're going to find the biggest booty on the beach and it did like $162,000 on YouTube which is okay

and so we're going to do a part two to that but it was not on YouTube and it was not filmed properly last one because you cannot see the girls' butts very well buts how long were the videos the video was only like

I don't know 15 minutes okay yeah it was a 15 minute video we strive to get like between 25 to 30 clips per video so by the end of the month we'll have thousands of clips right tons of storage and it'll be crazy so it's going to be like really like a lot of hard work but my my goal is I want to focus on e8 and less of my own stuff but my own content does make me money right and it does help me you know hire people like my friends and stuff like that. So it,

and I would love to hire him full time, but I'm just not in that position currently to do that in terms of where I need a, you know, camera man. You should fire somebody else, right? Like, I mean, if we're really we're friends, somebody's got to go. No, sure. But, yeah.

Like, not like, not funny. No, sorry. But yeah, so that's kind of where I'm at right now. I'm going to do a whole year of content in one month. That's my goal. You should film that. oh for sure the the explanation was like here's what we're going to do exactly and then do a whole video and just but it's funny because people on my you know my personal socials have no idea

have a company so they're like oh where have you been i'm like oh i've been working on a company like mooney knows i've been uh like taking calls every second that like with all my clients right like hey how's it going good you know are you coming to orlando this weekend yeah so it's like that's what i'm focused on right now so I think I've, you know, transitioned to that kid that dropped out of school to now, like, I'm making some real money and I have, like, you know, enough to live on it and do whatever I want with it. And it's cool. And then, but I'm also working very hard. So it's interesting having a company and outsourcing and doing other stuff.

It's a lot of work. It is a lot of work, but it's, it's for, you know. It's not a 40 hour a week job. Like it's, it's like 60, 80. It's way more than that. Yeah. It's 80 hours a week. Yeah.

But I enjoy. Yeah, I think I would, I enjoy it way more than me sitting on a desk, you know, going through people's, you know, accounts, right? Like, I actually physically enjoy building people's channels and helping people and talking to creators and, you know, getting views because, you know, when a video is going viral for my client, it's not only a good look for me, but it's a great look for them and they love it. Right.

So, you know, it gives me pleasure and it gives the editor's pleasure too because, you know, with like our number thing in our company is like viewers first so you know not client first not editor first not you know CEO first nothing it's the viewers first so we're working for the viewers and that's really what we strive for hey I appreciate you guys watching the video if you like the video do me a favor hit the subscribe button hit the bell so you get notified of videos just like this share the video like the video and do me a favor leave me a comment in the comment section I try and respond to as many comments as possible. Also, if you didn't know it or not, I have a Patreon account.

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Matthew B. Cox is a con man, incarcerated in the Federal Bureau of Prisons for a variety of bank fraud-related scams. Despite not having a drug problem, Cox inexplicably ends up in the prison's residential drug Drug Abuse Program, known as Ardap. A drug program in name only. Ardap is an invasive behavior modification therapy, specifically designed to correct the cognitive thinking errors associated with criminal behavior.

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