Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - My Ferrari Got me Arrested!

Episode Date: January 8, 2024

My Ferrari Got me Arrested!

And the house got raided. He gets arrested. Yeah. He got pulled over with like a pee. He got pull over? Motherf! Hey, this is Matt Cox. And we're going over one of the largest grow operations in Nebraska history. So I had a thousand plans in there.

And now, like, I'm doing 30 lights. you know what I'm saying so this is my first time ever gonna like full power with this house and I love it right so like now I have clientele's already those client tells I'll be building and now I had that house so that's how it happens but then bam shit hit the fence again I got caught that was in 2006 yeah I owned that house oh yeah that time I own a pool hall too so what you want to pull because basically at this point you're making money you're starting to make some money Well, right? Yeah, I bought a pool hall.

I bought Bill and Wind pool hall. And I think it was like 06. Well, man, how did you buy the pool? I mean, you must have been making money at this point to buy a pool hall. Well, it was through an Asian guy. I was like 30 grand. You know, most people don't have 30 grand. I'm just letting you know.

Most people don't have 30 grand to blow on a pool hall. So you must have been starting to do okay. Well, man, like yourself, you're an entrepreneur. Like your mind's always like, yo, I'm going to be something. more. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that. And later then, you're acting like I wasn't, like, yeah, I was really scraping by. You just bought a pool hall for 30 grand. I mean, you're not broke. So you're doing, you must, you're starting to make some money. Oh, yeah. I mean, right. But I wasn't like, like, you were on balling. No, I understand. No, no, I'm driving

Ferraris and no, that's later on. Yeah, that's later on. You know what I'm saying? Man, my life is so fucking comical, man. It was like, this shit is so fucking funny sometimes. So what happened? So how did you get busted? Huh? What led to you getting busted? What led to you getting busted the first the first time oh the first one uh the three three yeah the x street house well i had a i'd like i think it was my fucking doc or some shit like that and like i did write like i'm supposed to like talk to the fucking my rent my rent to own landlord or some shit i never did so i must have went on my house and fucking like open it and you fucking saw all that and that's how i got busted but i won see because i wanted a fucking

case it makes me think I was arrogant, Matt. So he, wait, wait, so you, how did you get arrested, though? Like, they came in, they grabbed you? Like, what happened? No, I got arrested because my neighbor was like, hey, we saw a bunch of cops go to your house. Oh, okay. And I was just like, oh, shit. So I was like, all right.

So that time, I shut down the pool hall. So I was laying low. I was just laying low for, like, maybe like eight, nine months and just kind of like, just go on day. You were hiding out. Yeah, yeah, just do one. season until I went to the casino and I was driving one day then I got busted then I had

a lawyer a court pay him like 20 grand and fucking yeah and this is local cops had raided the place it was local it wasn't DEA or no no dude it was just like it was kind of shitty

too because I kind of like all the plans was kind of dead because I was already kind of like I don't need that house no more I was kind of like got to like get that house get ready and just finally sell it out whatever because that house, I was done. I was on a different level. Right.

Now I don't need that. So that caused me, like, I want the case. Instead of a manufacturer, I walk away with possessions under a pound. So I did four months in jail. I mean, but there was like 100 pound plants in there. No, but it was just a bunch of fucking, like, middle, small shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it was just vegging.

Okay. So if you added it all up, it wasn't. It wasn't like that, you know. So I got away with that. And while I was in jail, I had my, well, so I had my cousin, whatever it is, pick all the weeds from all those people who got busted. I was on my fucking this. So I was in jail, and I was selling wheat already.

You know what I'm saying? Because I tell him, hey, go pick up my shit and make sure all my fucking guys eat. Because what he did, when I was in jail for four months, he was selling all my wheat. You know, I still make money when I was in jail. Right. Yeah. So the houses are still going? No, the house is kind of stuff, but I was, I was buying wheat.

See, all the guys that grow wheat, I was buying the shit. I'm not just a grower. I'll buy everybody's shit, too. So now you're distributing, you're buying the stuff, and you're redistributing it to your dealers that are selling that had their customers. Okay. While you're in prison, while you're locked up waiting for this charge to get our return. Yeah, so, like, I was still doing that.

I was just, like, but then that's how, like, all those, no, family, whatever it is. I was buying their weed and distributing. sell it to you, and now it's Omaha and Lincoln and whatever, whatever it is. And I was still doing that because, so when I get out, and four months later, my cousin, Tito, picked me up with a fucking Hummer, and he gave me two grand. And he's like, yo, I give you the rest of your fucking money tomorrow because whatever we did those four months, I was supposed to get half, and I know he did a lot. So I got like, you know what, keep the rest, bro.

I just need two grand, you know what I'm saying? and that was it. So instead of getting all those money from him, those four months that I did, while I was locked up, I just kind of like gave it away because I just won my guys. Right.

You know? Has you won the case yet? No, I won that case. Oh, he's out. No, I know you got out, but I know if you got out on bond or not. No, that time, I had to serve time that time. I was on bail.

Oh, okay, I didn't know. I thought maybe, for some reason, I thought you maybe. He was charged with distribution and play out to, like, a question. Yeah. Oh, okay, until your time was the four months? Six months, but, yeah. Okay, I get, I got it. Yeah, so at that time, I was in County, Matt.

I'd never been, like, hardcore prison. I was just counting. Right. Fucking county. So you get out, you start, do you start up again? What do you do? Yeah, I started up again. I started up again.

The 80th Street house. Yep, I started up again. And then after that, I went and getting out of house down 27th Street and Pine Lake, whatever. Not a, like, now this is all, like, kind of like a suburban-based place, bunch of white folks all from the time like middle class kind of better yeah yeah yeah so it's kind of like that so I kind of like blend in because that time I I was kind of like like blank I'm with a kid so the kid me me look good all the time right like I'm a I'm gonna fucking strong you father with a fucking kid you know shit like that yeah you know and um so I end up met him my wife you know

and have a daughter with her that's when I start like you know do doing things, open more business. I'll open a coffee shop, and after I open a nail shop. So how many houses do you have now? At this point, how many houses do you run? About three life. So now you're running three houses, and they're all

got a thousand plants a piece. And I think that time I was buying weed from everybody, too. And you're buying weed from other grow houses. Yeah, but I didn't buy, like, mass of them. I was just buying like maybe like four or five pounds here, four, five pounds there. Yeah, just to whatever

you need to meet the demand. You can only supply so much. If there's extra, I need an extra four pounds. I need an extra two pounds. Correct. But the price, the price was like, I get it for, I bought it from them for two grand. I flip out by 25. My guys flipped out to like 36. But I always try to give my guys the lowest number ever because I want to make sure to eat, you know what I'm saying? Like, if they eat, I eat, everybody can eat. And that's how I did it. So how are you laundering the money? Through the, you said you opened up a coffee shop. Coffee shop.

Yay. So you got a coffee shop and what else? A nail shop. Nail salon. Right. Or nail shop. So, I mean, what did you do? You went in and you just renovate?

Did you buy the buildings or did you just, you lease the space? No, I lease the space and I just built out. Build every fucking thing up. That's what I did with the nail shop too. And then you just take the cash and you put it in the bank and you say that it's a cash business. There's a lot of cash business. Because those are cash business. Yeah, yeah.

you know and I you know I never had like mentors that tells me yo you're supposed to do this and really say oh do this stocks and shit all my mentors Matt you got realized all the people that taught me of fucking drug dealers and crazy motherfuckers yeah they never really teach me what's it like to be like white-collar shit you know what I'm saying right like hey can you supposed to do this they learn this that no no tells my shit yeah you buy a you figure I buy a business I start a business make sure it's a cash business then I can funnel in some of the, it doesn't even matter if the business makes money. The business can't take

a loss, it's going to look on paper, it's going to look like it makes money. That's why they got in you because when they busts me, they're like, we know your business don't make shit, we watch you. All you do is gamble, fucking parties all the time. Because my cousin, my other cousin's driver, this is like an escalate, 26, my other cousin driver, 750,

I think that time I had to say X6, and my other cousin's if I have 650. What's an X6? BMW? Yeah. Did you buy a Ferrari at one point? Yeah. Yeah.

Well, that hitting, that was, like, really hitting. Like, nobody really knows because I parked a motherfucker downtown. Only, like, certain people. No, it was about, I think because of that, I got busted. I was just going to say, do you think that was suspicious? Yeah, but no. Because this one, why not I picked my cousin from Toronto. You know, we was just, like, pick him up, and we just, you know, landed,

and we just like, and I'm here I didn't want to fucking show off beer. And yeah, cousin, I'm doing, you know. Yeah, yeah. Stupid shit like that. So we just driving. and then we were just smoking I got pulled over and the cop was like

hey you know it's a high profile shit I didn't understand what the fucking high profile right you know what I'm like yeah whatever bro

just give me a fucking ticket and gonna get on my way you know and then he wrote some shit down and then I think what really his defense

is when my cousin shot that guy seven time yeah I mean he lives the guy fucking lives bro you know like I don't know what that

what that I don't know what that I don't know what to say So how did your cousin, so why did your cousin, so why did your cousin shoot someone seven times, like it seems excessive? But what, why did someone, why did he shoot somebody? Man, my cousin John, he's, I love that food. Because he, he's so like manly, like guys like that wouldn't see him like much. It wasn't even his fight. His friend started to trouble.

And he was just like my own business. She just have a kid. He started trouble, like, what do you mean? Like, start at a bar. At a house. I was a house party. His friend combed up. Yo, I got some altercation with his little, you know, some Spanish dude.

My cousin always wanted to be a fucking hero and save his friend. So my cousin drive over there and, you know, try to save him. Man, the dude, run up to this dude and try to stab him, stab my cousin's friend. My cousin pulled out his fucking, I think he's 45. and shot that dude. From trying to save his friend. It wasn't in my cousin's fight.

Right. It was some dude, some bullshit he hadn't on, but he didn't want to help to do well. What happened is, all this guy that he helped turn out snitch on him. Yeah, so it's kind of fucked up. So what happened is when my cousin, and my cousin, he's in the game, too. So there was a Spanish guy that tried to stab your cousin.

No, your cousin's friend. Yeah. Your cousin shoots the Spanish guy and then the guy that your, that your cousin protected, when he got busted, he, when he got busted, he snitched out your cousin. No, I snitching my cousin. Yeah, yeah, just dude just shot him. I ain't got some shit. You know what I'm saying? And my cousin, you know, the time he was in like early 20, he got so much shit going.

And he looked up to me. And I'm just like, I'm just like he's due. So my whole family is pissed because they think that I transformed my cousin. I did that to my cousin. And you let him over to the dark side, right? Well, I was a bad role model. That's what they're, my whole family blamed me.

So I'm just like, it's kind of fucked up because when he was busted, the whole family bail him out like $100,000 on belt. So he's on belt. The cups are fucking pissed. Why is this young guys connected? This is his own fucking belt. How's he come up with $100?

Correct. And like after that, right? So my cousin here, we're chilling every fucking day in my coffee shop, playing cards every fucking day, smoking wheat. This is all we do all day. So I think like ever since my cousin shot that, shot him. And the cars I was driving, all, everybody was doing. We were like, I think we were like, time was running out for us. Yeah, you were. They know something's going on. This guy's hanging out. He's hanging out all day, smoking pot and drinking coffee. driving a Ferrari, something's going on. Plus, I'm sure they hear, you know, let's face it, because the cops, they know what's going on. They've got, they've got CIs that are always telling, look, man, this guy's doing this. And then they just kind of put you, okay, well,

they put your name in the computer, and then one day, two months later, you get pulled over, get a ticket in a Ferrari. You know, and then, oh, your name comes up enough times, they start to say, hey, look, maybe it's time to watch this guy for a couple days. They follow you around for a week next thing you know. they got to they're starting a case this is definitely what's happening you know one of your

dealers buddies gets busted and he says he's buying his shit from this guy you know next thing you know there's a case you know that's exactly so you were you and the Ferrari probably didn't help but uh yeah so the uh so who's working in the nail salon uh dot time oh right now oh you still have the nail salon i don't know i give it back i mean when i came out she she tried to give it back to me but I walk away I walk away I walk away and I went to Massachusetts I walk away from that

so what So your cousin got Your cousin shot the guy How much time did your cousin get 40 years He's still like He just hit me up like a few days You go with FaceTime and what that bullshit

Is it in and this is in Nebraska Do they have Do they have Yeah he's gonna do like half I think he's gonna do like 20 years He's got now like three years left four years left. Oh, bro, 20 years in a state prison?

He's a kid. In a state prison? Man, my cut, gladiator school. Horrible. This is gladiated school, huh? Fighting all about that. I mean, I've heard of them state guys that go harder than us, huh? Way harder. I would, I'd rather do, everybody I know that's done state time has always said, like,

I'd rather do 10 years in the Fed than five years in state. Gladiators. In Florida, like, they don't even have AC in Florida. What? sweat everything's everybody I talked to that guy Josh that I did a podcast with this guy Josh did that he's like everything's brown

from just from sweat everything's drenched in sweat he's like all the mattresses you can't sleep with covers on because it's so hot at night it's just it's disgusting everybody I know that's gone to the state of Florida has been like it's the worst the guards are brutal

you know fed times like easy not that it's easy but it's It ain't, I'm not, no guards are attacking me or beating me up for looking at them cock-eyed. Nobody's, you know, it's not, it's not, not that, it's not that situation, especially if it's a non-violent crime. Right. Like, did you end up in a, well, I was a medium high. Yeah, well, let's, let's, sorry, go ahead.

So, so your cousin, he got, he got his case, he got sentenced. So what, what was like kind of the next thing after that that happened? Like the Fed, I understand they got on you. Who started watching you? I'm not sure. Did it start, the state? Or did your, was it fed? State.

I think it was state to start watching me because, you know, like, because nowadays, I start thinking like pictures. I have pictures of memories. You know, like, when you got caught,

you wonder why you fucking got caught and you just thinking, thinking, thinking, think. Yeah, you start noticing that guy last week that I saw two or three times and he must, you know what? He was there for,

like, I thought that was weird, right? Yeah. And there were like copters flying over when I'm the house. I was growing. That can't get off. You know, I was smoking balcony, I'm like, why the fuck is that shit flying over?

You know what's happening? You know, what's happening is most likely that it's funny because, like, if you had ordered the Freedom of Information Act on your case, like, you'd know exactly what was going on. You could order those documents, read the documents, and be like, oh, look, right here, they did fly a helicopter. I didn't know that, bro. Oh, yeah, you can order all that shit, man.

I didn't know that. I can show you how to order all that. Wow. So, but I was going to say most likely, somebody said, that's where he's growing so they flew a helicopter they tried to look and see and check it out well that's funny we didn't get anything from the from the electric company so then they fly over with the with the infrared and try and figure out that's probably why but so what so how did that progress you start seeing things what did you did they ever bring in or was it just one day boom you got

rated I was the day that I got raided um the day that uh cat one of my house got bused It's Kevin Belton's house. I was in my coffee shop, gambling, drink coffee, smoking weed, and shit. And I got this phone call from my sister. We're like, hey, your house getting a bunch of cups over your house right now. Like, what? And I just like, I hate that. I was just like, yeah.

It's not good. I was like, so I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I'm thinking. I'm like, fuck, I'm going to do this. I'm fucking done. But the house isn't in your name. Yeah, but I was thinking, like, I'm, you know, you know when shit like that, you're just like, fuck, are they onto my house? So I'm thinking like, so many shit, like, what's going on? I do waiting all the fucking house, whatever it is.

And so later that night, right, I want to go clean up my other house. So I told, like, I told my, the guy from Canada, I was like, yo, I got to clean up fucking house. You know what I'm saying? The house, like, we had two houses. the other existing houses. Yeah, it's like two more. You're thinking, shut them down, clean up. Because I was like, all right, I mean, I could go down with my house.

He could go down. I was like, I told it, Kevin, like before this, anything happens. Don't say anything. Do not fucking say, I'll bail you out right away. I did out bail him out of that fucking night. But I went to jail and I got cut. I were bailed him out. You get what I'm saying?

Yeah. So it's like, I told him how the game is. I was like, yo, you're a fucking pretty white boy. He had no record. nothing else going to happen to you. The worst you could do is you're going to get a year and some time and for a manufacturer for one house.

It's not a lot. It's fucking weed. And this is just the local cops. Yeah. Okay. At that time, this is what... I told them before everything happens, like I told... Because I understand how the game works,

be like, your first time failing, you ain't going to get shit, this and that. You're going to be really kneeling with you. And, you know, you're never been in trouble before. You're going to be you. The safety value. You've never been in trouble. You can only get...

Yeah. So how I'm at Belton, Kevin is through Aaron. Aaron's my real estate guy. Right. And Kevin is Aaron's best friends. And I asked before... I don't really need Kevin because he was there. So I was like, Aaron's like, I love Aaron.

He's like my really best friend at that time. You know, I still love that fucker. You know, but he introduced me to Kevin. And he said, Kevin's good for it. I asked him, yo, is he got good? He's got good for it. Because I'm about let this motherfucker know my life. Right.

You know what I'm saying? And, like, I had, like, so many aliens. I'm like a ghost sometime, but people don't really know my name, my real name, anything. They just know, like, I'm like that. That's it. So Kevin end up knowing who I am, like, what I do inside my business and everything I do. So it was like I was training Kevin to be, like, kind of me in a way when I'm going to focus. more time on like you know like because I had a nail shop I have a fucking coffee shop

I'm trying to do legit now I just need a couple more rounds I'm fucking done with this I've been hustled my whole fucking life you know I don't need this no more and then I showed Kevin how to water plans how treatments how to you know went to water went to cut and whatever it is I kind of talking and like that but I didn't I was still I was still slinging I was still growing like still you know doing all my thing you know I'm still but I'm not really actually watering, doing all that. You got what I'm saying, bro? So, and whatever it comes out, I was like, I gave you half, you know what I'm saying?

So it was kind of like, you know, you're getting rent-free. You've got fucking 50% of my, what I'm doing. All you do is fucking water my shit. And kind of like, you know what I'm saying? Do my shit. And I'm giving, like, show was generous. And so he was watching three motherfucking hounds like that. So he just watered my plans and so now he really knows me.

So that's why he did. So he was doing that while I was just lame and running business. And the house got raided. He gets arrested. Yeah. He got pulled over with like a pee. He got pull over? That's what I thought happens.

He got pulled over. And they got to work for his house because that was his address he gave. Motherfucker! Oh, come on. I didn't know he got pulled over. They went to his house. I never know he got over. They went to his...

This is what I thought. The cops went to his house. You thought they raided the house and grabbed him at that time. Correct. And he snitched him out of the house. I didn't know who he got pulled over. No wonder this motherfucker disappeared when I got out of prison. Seriously, right when the news released it, say, oh, I'm about me out of prison.

He motherfucker was like, he moved to California because somebody told me. I didn't know. I don't know that. I mean, I assumed he got. He got arrested when they raided the house. I assume they raided the house because they saw it from the helicopter or something. They may have pulled him over and been like, look, we're going to your house, bring us to your house. I mean, who knows how they got there?

You know, for him to have gotten pulled over and told them about the house, like that doesn't make sense. He probably got pulled over. They already knew about the house, most likely. Like, you don't get pulled over for a traffic ticket and say, by the way, I'm running a grow house. Right. So they may have pulled them over to say, look, we're going to go in the house, we need you to bring us,

we're going to the house, we're taking into the house, we're going in. Like, it's easier to pull him over on a car than it is to raid the house. He may be in there with a gun. They don't know. Well, anyway.

I'm not going to be mad about the fuck. Yeah, so. Yep. So he and I'm telling him all the houses. So he tells on, he tells, hey, look, they've got other houses. Yep. Okay.

You know, suit, what trip. He tells him. me your name and that he does the whole that lays it out here's the other houses here's yep they yep and then what make it worse did you were you in the house sorry were you i was never in the end of the house so you weren't even near there i wasn't even near that's why that's why like did you know the other houses got robbed or i mean got raided huh did you know the other houses got ready i was going to go clean the house remember that night i wasn't his first house and i was like you were gonna you were gonna get him out of right i was going like yo i got to

chop down on fucking trees because this is like thousands of fucking you know this is like everyone fucking where. So that's how, but on my way there, I didn't get caught in the house. I got cut driving to the fucking house. Same way he got caught? Same way. I'm saying like, when I read the articles, when I read the articles, it was like, there was like one house and they were like, hey, there's, you know, there was a raid, this guy got arrested, there was one house, and I was, and it was like, it was like, I forget, it was like 900 plants or something. I was like, oh, it was like, 900 plants, oh, okay. And then I was like, oh, hey, here's another article, you know, a week, later or two weeks later and I was like oh there's two more houses now it's

three houses like oh and now it's it's not 900 plants jump to like 3,500 plant you know what I'm sorry it was like 2,400 plants then there was another article and now it's 4,000 plants and there's there's nothing it just kept growing I was like I was like man this is getting like I could see the dominoes kind of bop bop bop bop you know falling yeah you could read the articles and realize it's getting worse like I don't know what's happening but whoever's involved in this, every article, it's got to be like, oh, man, this is bad.

This is bad. It's only getting worse. It is, bro. So they hit all those houses. So did you, so you were a group, like there were other, the other people that you were buying from, did those houses get hit too? Yeah, they do.

See, that's why houses total. I think it was like 13. Yo, Matt, you see what happened. You see the domino effects, what it brought us down because maybe one guy. What you're thinking like my fucking, family so ain't know about me be like you know what I'm saying? Yeah yeah yeah

because I brought an outsider and did that. So you think if it was it was the Vietnamese community they would have they would have just taken the charge and gone for a year just taking it? I don't even know no it's not I mean it was just they're blamed me because they said

because you brought in the guy. Yeah I could have been anybody but they don't I mean they don't see that they don't see like that they say it's like they want to blame point the finger somebody yeah yeah and I was a fucking guy to blame for I got a lot of people who are always like, well, do you think, I actually had a comment, Colby, I had a comment from a guy. One of the guys they were asking questions, I was like, do you think if you had never gotten involved with these girls, you would have gotten busted? And I was like, yeah, eventually I would have gotten busted.

You've got, you've got 50 to 100,000 law enforcement officers looking for this or looking for drugs or I'm number one in the Secret Service. I saw the FBI's looking for me, too, and the U.S. Marshals. Like, I'm a sharp guy, but I'm not that sharp. Like, I eventually, I'm going to get caught. You know, if it hadn't been those chicks, it would have been six months later. Look, it was almost multiple times before that that I almost got caught. Like, I was bound to fuck up, you know. If it wasn't, if it wasn't, you know, Kevin getting busted, it was going to be somebody.

Yeah. Something was going to happen. Somebody would have got pulled over. Some drug dealer would have said, okay, they would have got busted. You would have shown up to drop off some drugs. He would have worn a wire. You know, they would have followed you. They were going to, it's all going to come down at some point.

You know, these organizations, they always end up falling apart at some point. So to start pointing, that's the guy. Okay, well, if it wasn't him, if you weren't pointing at him, you'd be pointing at this guy two months later, or this guy six months later, or this guy a year later, it's going to come down. Yeah. You just, it's just not, the systems, look, they're just too good. Like, they really are. They've got the surveillance.

They've got everything. They know what they're doing. They do, man. It's you and 10 other guys working against 100,000 cops with an inexhaustible budget. I mean, you can't expect the. You can't win. Right. So, yeah.

So, so, so you were, where were you when you heard that these places start getting busted? Like, were you still free? Oh, no. You said they grabbed you. you, they brought you to the one play, right? Um, the grab, yeah. How many houses got busted before they grabbed you? That's what I'm wondering.

One house. Oh, just, just one house? It's Kevin's house. And then they pulled you over and grabbed you. Yep, and after that, two my other house got busted. Okay. And then the other house, after that, the other houses and the whole thing got on. But I was the first one.

Right. My, that's why like, you're right, Matt. No matter what's going to about to happen. No matter what, because we had to run all them years. I got like a six, seven, eight years run, you know what I'm saying? Well, it's just like you, like you were just saying that you were like, you know, because you had gotten away, like you got that one charge and it was minor and you become, and that's what happened with me. I become arrogant, emboldened. You start feeling like I'm invincible.

Like, this isn't a big deal. And this. Yes, sir. Same thing. My first charge I ever got. It was like, I got three years probation. I'm good. What are they going to do?

Catch me and give me 26 years? That's never going to happen. Right. Oh, yeah? Get smart. They're going to fuck you up. You know, it's, it's, I always think if I had initially when I got arrested, if I had gotten more time, if I actually had to call to prison,

maybe it would have smartened me up. But so when you got, did get grabbed, did you ever get out on bond? Yeah, I was on bond. Got out on bond. Yeah, well, state, that's why I laugh. Oh, state. That's why I laugh. I was like, you guys can't get me.

Fucking state. I didn't know what Fett was. So I was like, State, I beat State. I shoot on the state. That's why I thought. I was like, State. So I was out on Bun. I was like, all right, I got one of my days, you know.

And then when the Fets came in the next day, I was like, The next day? Yeah. I know guys that literally have gotten out on bond from the state and then walking out of the courthouse and the feds grab them. Like, they'll let you put up like $50 or $100,000 or $200,000 or then arrest you walking out of the courthouse. I couldn't believe it.

Wait, wait, is that what happened to you? Or you said the next day. The next day. He at least went home. Well, the next day at 6 p. they went with my house I was I was they're like just normal and I'm just like the fuck and they're like they didn't let me go inside the house nothing you know they didn't let me anything go to grab me and just took me go and that was it who who was

it was it that I know but was it like DEA FBI I think it was DEA or some shit like that or FBI I want those fuckers yeah I don't know it's they're normal they look normal and it was intimidating and shit So I'm just like, yo, you know, here I am. Right. I never done fucking state prison, county, yeah. Yeah, I'm going to the big boys. So how, so you were, so they grabbed you.

Mm-hmm. How, how did they grab anybody else? Um, they grabbed me first. Right. You know, but after they grabbed me, I, yeah. I think they grabbed my, my partner from Canada. And without a guy to watch his house. In Canada?

Yeah. Well, no. No. Oh, and so he was in Nebraska. Yeah, I call, he's my partner, but he's kind of like an older, because I'll call him like uncle. Right. You know, and got him too. But he didn't, but he was smart.

He went back to Canada. So I never really got him. They're Canadians. Yeah, Canadians. Yeah. Oh, okay. So all those Canadian motherfuckers went back home. So they really got nothing.

Okay. Yeah. So here I am, like, I was charged with, like, leader conspiracy and all that bullshit. I'm like, what? They charged me all this. And they're like, we're going to do this. We're going to do this. I'm just like, fuck me.

So how, what, so you got out, you got grabbed, picked up, thrown in the U.S. Marshall's Holt. Yes. Well, yeah, Marshall's Holdover, right? How long, did you, and did you get a public defender? Because I'm pretty sure they took your money. Yeah. They start seizing everything.

You can't prove you got, well, you can't really, maybe you could prove. Yeah, you can't really prove you have any legitimate money. The businesses are being used to launder money. They say, like, oh. They say we wash your shop. You don't make no fucking money, they're right. We know it. It's bullshit.

Can't get a private attorney. They, they, they, public defender. They got, they're good. They're good. They're good. You know, I mean to. lose some like that are good but uh yeah so here i am you know and uh i was facing 10 of life plus a bullshit fucking charge of uh leader conspirator will leader participants of bullshit like

i was they're making i was like this big dude which i'm not mother fuck i was growing we to support my fucking kid you know leader organizer yeah it's a leader organizer yeah it's a leader of the participant of legal organizer some bullshit okay yeah Conspiracy, I don't fucking... Are they trying to hit you with all the houses? Yeah, they're trying to say, yeah. They try to hit me with... Well, they hit me with all the houses already.

So that's how I ended up... I started with 10 of life. Right. What's your... What's your public defender telling you? Did you even think about going to trial? Or you're thinking just try and cut as good of a plea as I can? I was thinking going to trial.

That would have been a mistake. That would have been a mistake. I think they'll hit him with like 20. five years. Oh, yeah, yeah, we wouldn't be talking. So I have a question is, what did you think when the public defender said you're looking at like a minimum of like, you're looking at 10 years, minimum. If everything goes right, you're looking at least 10 years. What did you think? The first thing is, fuck, I'm not going to see my mom until I'm not going to see her last fucking day. That's the first thing I always brought my mind. Fuck, my mom's not going to see me no more.

It's funny how when you're facing that, how suddenly everything, becomes like all those things you took for granted suddenly become important it's like fuck like all the it's it's yeah it's not until like you it's you know it's like it's like it's not until you lose everything that you realize what was really important yeah like but i bet the one thing you didn't think about was what oh i'm not going to be able to drive my Ferrari again like you could care less about that no like all that stuff like when it when it happened to me when it happened i mean my first thought was not man i'm not going to be able to to drive my Audi or see my girlfriend or you know all those things that I was stealing that

money for I didn't care about any of that my first thought was like my mom my son my you know all that you know but when you're out there I wasn't thinking about it yeah for some reason you're right bro just like I was like man I'm not going to see my mom till like fuck she's gonna die and I know she's gonna die before I get out so fuck fuck fuck me up you know and uh well fucks me up even more when my wife divorced me. I didn't give a fuck a lot of money, anything. She divorced me, like, my lowest moment in my life, and I got this divorced letter.

You know, so I was like, I took it.