Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - My Lawyer Tried To Take Over The World | EMPEROR FRANK AMODEO

Episode Date: February 16, 2024

My Lawyer Tried To Take Over The World | EMPEROR FRANK AMODEO ...

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Starting point is 00:00:22 Buy your tickets now. I get a free chili dog. Chili Dog, not included. The Naked God. Tickets on sale now. August 1st. Frank Amadeo is a rapid cycling bipolar with features of schizophrenia. He believes that God is telling him that he is preordained to be emperor of the world. Guys were literally mocking him.
Starting point is 00:00:45 They were like, you see that guy? That guy was trying to take over the world. This guy stole like almost $200 million from the federal government and tried to use it to take over the Congo and several different Eastern European countries. at this point has started to work on other inmates legal work. He's got six guys typing for him. He has guys that are paralegals. He had Crips guarding the door. He had Crip gang members keeping his appointment schedule for him. Can I tell Shannon what happened in my case? And he's like, you need to talk to Frank. I can see in his face he's about to lose it. When my troops march on Washington, we will burn.
Starting point is 00:01:31 And he looks at me. And he says, he goes, don't worry, I'm not going to let this happen. I'm going to fix this. I'm going to make them reduce your sentence. Hey, this is Matt Cox. telling the story of Frank Amadeo. Frank Amadeo is an inmate that I met while I was incarcerated. He helped me tremendously, and he's got a really interesting and, and, listen more than that,
Starting point is 00:02:13 he's got an extremely unique story. So you're, if you're, if you tune into this and watch all of these episodes that I'm going to do, and I've written a book on, on Frank, you're never. going to hear a story like this ever so let me go ahead and and start by saying that i was incarcerated in federal prison i had committed bank fraud i was on the run i just a little bit of background probably most people know my story i've been on a bunch on a bunch of podcasts and there have been several programs on me but i was incarcerated and uh and i got 26 years I got a 26 year sentence that was
Starting point is 00:02:58 outrageously long I feel for what I had done but essentially my crime is the short version is I owned a mortgage company I was committing fraud at the mortgage company the brokers that worked for me were committing fraud I got caught I was given a three year probationary
Starting point is 00:03:18 sentence I then you know like I should have just gone and got a regular job, served out my probation, and just lived a regular life. But I didn't do that. What I did was I started a much larger scam. And at that point where when I worked for the mortgage company, I was just like changing documents. I wasn't really doing anything super overtly scamy, fraudulent as much as I was just changing documents, which is fraud, but not like, it was really just to get people loans. So now I got in trouble. And what I did was
Starting point is 00:03:51 I started creating what's called synthetic identities. I started creating fake people. I convinced Social Security to issue me social security numbers to children that don't exist. I then built credit profiles using those social security numbers. Once those credit profiles were built, you could now pull the credit for someone. On a social security number that had been issued eight months earlier, you could pull that credit and of course they didn't say it was a three year old or a two year a two year old it said that it was somebody who was like 30 years old but you could pull his credit and he
Starting point is 00:04:28 had 700 credit scores i then bought a bunch of houses in those different various names i then borrowed money against those houses borrowed 11 and a half million dollars over the course of about 18 months eventually the FBI finds out the FBI comes to arrest me i then went on the run while i was on the run i borrowed an additional three and a half to four million dollars the secret service got involved after three years i was captured after i was captured i was um i was brought to atlanta and at that point this is late 2007 this is the beginning of the 2008 financial crisis like at this point you're starting to see cracks in the system and banks are starting to fail and things are going bad and i became kind of
Starting point is 00:05:19 the poster child for identity theft and bank fraud. And so they really, really threw the book at me. I probably should have gotten 10 years or so, which I deserved. I had that common for sure. But instead, I got 26 years. Now, when I got caught, the government asked me to cooperate against my co-defendants, which had only one or two had actually gone to prison. And so there were still about 13 people that had never been that were caught up in my in my case but had never gone to prison they'd all cooperated already and all of them said oh i don't know what he was doing you know he asked me to do this but that wasn't illegal so they all kind of covered for themselves and blamed everything on me so they asked the government asked me to cooperate against them so i met
Starting point is 00:06:07 with the FBI i met with the secret service but nothing happened with those cases so while i was waiting to be sentenced, the government came to me and they said, listen, Mr. Cox, you know, maybe something happens with these cases, you're going to get 26 years, but we'd like you to be interviewed by Dateline
Starting point is 00:06:27 NBC News. Dateline had already done a one hour special on me and my case, and they wanted to interview me. So my lawyer talked to the U.S. attorney. U.S. attorney said if Mr. Cox does this, if he's interviewed,
Starting point is 00:06:44 We'll consider that what's called substantial assistance, which means we'll consider that for a sentence reduction. So the government, I'll give you an example. If the government gives you, let's say, 30 years, if you cooperate and that cooperation is considered substantial assistance, they have the right to file a motion with the government and get your sentence reduced. So typically, really exclusively, cooperation or substantial assistance only results as for when someone cooperates against their co-defendants and their co-defendants get indicted and they go to prison. So if you rat out somebody or snitch on somebody
Starting point is 00:07:32 and then they get in trouble and they go to prison, then you can get your sentence reduced. The government considers that substantial assistance. and they reduce your sentence. Well, the government told my lawyer, if he, if Mr. Cox is interviewed by Dateline, we'll consider that substantial assistance. And we'll reduce his sentence.
Starting point is 00:07:49 He's going to get 26 years, but we'll reduce it. And so my lawyer is like, you've got to do it. Like, you don't have a choice. And admittedly, like, I didn't have a choice. Like, they, I, it was, the government was, the FBI and Secret Service were investigating these other people that had been involved in my various scams. But that was no, there was no,
Starting point is 00:08:09 there was no guarantee that that was going to lead to arrest. I thought it was because I knew they were extremely guilty. But I also wanted to do as much as I could to help myself and help my situation, right? I don't want to spend the next 25 years in prison. So I was interviewed by Dateline just before I was sentenced. The interview comes out. It gets a ton of views. I then am going to sentencing, but nobody had been indicted in my case.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Like, nobody had been arrested. All these guys I had cooperated against, none of them had been arrested. So I'm going to sentencing, and I did do the interview. So we're expecting that the government's going to say, look, your honor, he should get 26 years. But we're going to ask for a reduction in a sentence because he was interviewed by Dateline. and he's also helped toward the investigation of multiple other parties. So the day or really like the day of, day before the day of my sentencing,
Starting point is 00:09:17 my lawyer speaks with the U.S. attorney and says, look, what are you going to recommend for his sentence to be reduced? And she says, you know, my lawyer's name was Millie. And the U.S. attorney's name was Gail McKenzie. So she says, you know, Gail says, you know, Millie, thought about this and yes the dateline thing happened
Starting point is 00:09:40 but nobody's been arrested on his case and I thought about it and I'm not going to ask for a reduction in a sentence right now we're going to wait and see if there's some arrests well Millie of course Millie says well you said you consider it substantial assistance
Starting point is 00:09:55 she said I did consider it substantial assistance I do I've considered it and it's not it's not enough to warrant a reduction you know which is a shitty thing them to do but once again they thought that there was going to be arrests in my case so i go to i go to sentencing i get in front of the judge the judge gives me 26 years and four months which is what the probation which is what my my range was right so probate there's a probation officer he looks at all your uh all the criteria that you meet as far as sentencing and he determines that this is what
Starting point is 00:10:28 they're recommending and they recommended 26 years and four months the judge gave it to me okay That's a shitty day. So I then get sentenced to prison. I go to prison. I go to a medium security prison. I'm at the medium security prison. And we're going to get into Frank Amadeo in a minute. Just give me a couple of minutes.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I'm setting it up for people that don't know the story. So I go to a medium security prison and I wait. I wait to see if these other people are going to be indicted. Like I'm assuming the FBI is going to indict a bunch of people in Tampa. Secret Service is going to indict some people and those people are going to plead guilty or go to trial, whatever the case may be
Starting point is 00:11:11 and then, of course, the government's going to come and say, hey, Mr. Cox really helped us in this case. These cases, we're going to reduce his sentence. And I kind of always assume my sentence would be reduced down to about, I don't know, six or seven years, something like that. I don't know why that was in my mind. I thought that's probably what I deserve
Starting point is 00:11:26 was something like that, which was way off. here's what happens is after like a year or so of being at the medium I call my US my public defender I call Millie and Millie says I said Millie what's going on why what's happening
Starting point is 00:11:46 like nobody's come to see me what's going on so she goes I don't know let me call so she calls around she calls and the U.S. attorney says that they're still looking into it at some point after like a year after about two years
Starting point is 00:12:07 an FBI agent shows up because what it ended up happening was the FBI agents that were in my on my case got transferred so they used that as an excuse then they also said listen by this point it's 2009 like the entire economy is collapsing at this point so it's too well late 2008 2009 economy is collapsing so finally an FBI agent comes out her name is Leslie. She comes out, really nice, comes out, interviews me. Gosh, I don't know how many times she came out. I want to say four or five. I could be wrong. Maybe it was three times. Be honest, I think it was four or five times. So she comes out, spend several hours. We go over boxes, different things, try and put together a case. She at some point, she puts together a case. She goes to
Starting point is 00:12:50 the U.S. Attorney in Tampa and says, look, I want to arrest, I want to indict and arrest all these guys. And the U.S. Attorney in Tampa says, eh, that case is five years. Some of these cases. Some of these cases, are four years old, five years old, six years old. We're not really interested in pursuing those. We've got banks that are failing right now. We're going to go after them. Why would we go after a six-year-old case? So in that case, I really screwed myself by going on the run.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I already put off, put it off. And then, of course, being prosecuted, that was another year. It took that another year. So, I mean, it was four, like four. I should have stayed in Tampa and cut all those people's throats. But the point is, that's not what happened. So I call Millie, talk to my, talk to her. And she says, Matt, I'm sorry, they're not going to indict anybody.
Starting point is 00:13:34 This is not going to happen. I said, well, oh my gosh. Well, what about the dateline thing? And she was like, I told you, I talked to the U.S. attorney. And she said, it's just not enough. So I don't know what to do at this point. Now, by this point, I've been taken from the medium security prison. And I was transferred to the low security prison.
Starting point is 00:13:53 So I'm at the low security prison. And I get a letter from a. production company that produces the TV show American Greed. They ask for me to be interviewed. I contact my probation, so I contact my public defender, Millie. Millie says, yep, I got a letter to. She'd already received a phone call from the U.S. attorney. The U.S. attorney said, I want him to be interviewed for that show.
Starting point is 00:14:19 If he's interviewed, I will definitely consider it substantial assistance. Great. I'm interviewed by American Greed. The show comes out. after the show comes out Millie contacts Gail McKenzie and says Gail the show came out
Starting point is 00:14:35 looks like it's doing well. He's done everything he said he would do. Can we please get that reduction now? And the U.S. attorney says it's just not enough. I'm sorry. And, you know, no arrest. Why just survive back to school
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Starting point is 00:15:16 These are great things that he did, and I understand that I said I'd consider them substantial assistance, and I did consider them substantial assistance, and they're not. it's and they're not so they did they always say consider i will consider it which is comical unless you're the recipient of that um so after within six months to a year of that so now by this point i've been locked up like five years by this point i'm writing my own story and i'm writing a book about myself. Well, what ends up happening is buried by the U.S. government and ignored by the national media, this is the story they don't want you to know. When Frank Amadeo met with President George W. Bush at the White House to discuss NATO operations in Afghanistan, no one knew
Starting point is 00:16:13 that he'd already embezzled nearly $200 million from the federal government. Money he intended to use to bankroll his plan to take over the world. From Amadeo's global headquarters in the shadow of Florida's Disney World with a nearly inexhaustible supply of the Internal Revenue Services funds. Amadeo acquired multiple businesses, amassing a mega conglomerate. Driven by his delusions of world conquest, he negotiated the purchase of a squadron of American fighter jets and the controlling interest in a former Soviet ICBM factory. He began working to build the largest private militia on the planet. Over one million African strong. Simultaneously, Amadeo hired an international black ops force to orchestrate a coup in the Congo
Starting point is 00:17:01 while plotting to take over several small Eastern European countries. The most disturbing part of it all is, had the U.S. government not thwarted his plans, he might have just pulled it off. It's insanity. The bizarre, true story of a bipolar megalomaniac's insane plan for total world domination. Available now on Amazon and Audible. Or I guess at this point, I get contacted by a guy named Jim Montram. Jim Montram owns a real estate school that teaches mortgage brokers how to get licensed. So he teaches a class, you get a certificate, that makes you eligible to go and take a state test, and then you can be a mortgage broker.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Teaches these classes all over the United States, right? It's a national mortgage broker educational school. well Jim contacts me and Jim says hey Matt listen this is kind of you know this is interesting I'd like to write an ethics and fraud course so what what happens is for you to be a mortgage broker you have to take something like I'm going to say it's like nine hours of continuing it might be 12 hours whatever you have to take a certain amount of educational course educational continuing education classes every year three or four of those hours are on ethics and fraud so he said i want to write an ethics and fraud course that meets the federal guidelines
Starting point is 00:18:33 which will help mortgage brokers and i want to have you helped me write it i want to base it completely off of you and your experience because I had actually owned a mortgage company I was a licensed mortgage worker so I said wow that'd be amazing so I said
Starting point is 00:18:49 but I need to get that approved through the U.S. attorney so this time the U.S. Jim actually flies up does they think it flies up or drives up he flies up
Starting point is 00:19:01 he flies up to Atlanta he meets with the U.S. attorney and my lawyer she writes an email saying if Mr. Cox writes this course I will absolutely consider its substantial assistance.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Listen, this is how scummy these people are. Like, I don't, I hate to say that people are scummy or U.S. attorneys are scummy or any, you know, there's good and bad people, you know. And I'm not saying she's doing a bad thing to a good person, but doing a bad thing to a bad person is still shitty. So, she says, if he writes this course, I will consider it substantial assistance. I write the course. It's 9,500 words.
Starting point is 00:19:41 it's a great course probably one of the greatest courses this I sound like Trump probably the greatest course that was ever written but no but listen a lot of people have actually said guys that have written they're like bro that's like the most compelling course I've ever read in continually education like it's
Starting point is 00:19:57 still being used as a matter of fact it was actually adopted by some by an FX and fraud course that's being that's being taught so my point is I write the course it's done it's being used we get a letter from Jim Montram from we get testimonials everything we go to the US
Starting point is 00:20:16 attorney say boom ready to go ready for that reduction and Gail McKenzie looks at it and says first she dodges my lawyer for about three months finally my lawyer catches up to her in an elevator traps her in an elevator and says what's going on with Matt Cox and sure enough she says it's just not enough it's not enough to warn on a reduction she is because the real and so what it boils down to his here's the real problem the real problem is this she's saying i don't know how to make a motion for a reduction based on the guide the rule 35 guidelines when they specifically state in the guidelines that this has to be based off of um of arrests indictments and arrest of other individuals she's like this doesn't meet that criteria despite the fact
Starting point is 00:21:07 that she'd been telling my lawyer that the whole time. So when I'm talking, so when Millie's telling me this on the phone, I'm in prison and I'm like, but you said, like I'd never looked up the guidelines. I don't know what they say. And I said, but you said that she would consider.
Starting point is 00:21:25 She was, I know Matt, and she did consider it, and it's not. And she said, I'm sorry. When your lawyer starts crying on the phone with you, you have a problem. things are going bad for you because they see horrific sentences and things happen all the time. And when your lawyer's telling you, you're getting a raw deal, it's a problem because they're jaded. They're used to people getting 30 years in life sentences and just being like, yeah, I know it's bad. And just being okay with it.
Starting point is 00:21:57 She was in tears. So I realize I'm really in a bad spot. And I end up calling several. at that point, I know I'm just done, right? The FBI has given up on indicting anybody. It's been way too old. Now the statute of limitations is going, is starting to expire. These people aren't getting arrested.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Secret Service dropped their cases, right? So they actually just, they're not interested in indicting anybody because basically my crime spree when I was on the run and the Secret Service got involved was basically me. Me and a girl named Rebecca Halk and Rebecca's already gone to prison, done three years and got out so there's nobody to really to necessarily indict there were a few people that could have been indicted but they just chose not to right whole economy is collapsing why are we going to mess with this so now i'm getting to frank amadeo at this point i actually called a few lawyers on the street you know on the street right so i call them lawyers that aren't locked up
Starting point is 00:23:04 because believe it or not there are lawyers that are locked up so i call a couple of lawyers, and some of them were like big time lawyers, I actually called T.I.'s lawyer. You know, T.I, the rapper guy that cooperated, right? I actually called his lawyer. And he said, one, I have no money. And he said, you're doomed. Like, if the government doesn't file it voluntarily, you cannot force the government to do it. Now, in my, in the district that I was in, which is the northern district of Georgia. There's different, all the federal, the federal government, U.S. attorneys
Starting point is 00:23:41 or U.S. attorney offices are broken up into different districts. Most states have three districts, right? The, you know, northern, middle, middle, and southern districts. So I was in the northern district of Georgia, even though the bulk of my stuff was from Florida. They had indicted me first and everything was consolidated there.
Starting point is 00:24:00 So that U.S. attorney really hated my guts. And basically, every lawyer I talked in that area said, look, in this district, if they don't file it voluntarily, you cannot force them. Now, there are some, you go to California, you can force them to file it, right? You go to New York, you can force the government to file a reduction in your sentence. If you've cooperated, they say, yeah, to hell with him. No, that's not how it works. But down south, it's a little bit more good old boys.
Starting point is 00:24:31 We don't have to play by the rules. We have our own set of rules. they every both two different lawyers said yeah you're done bro you're hit like there's nothing you can i don't know what to tell you not that i could have paid these guys to represent me but i did call them i'm being told it ain't happening so at this point i i and i already i don't want to say i noticed frank amadeo i'd already seen frank amadeo but at this point i actually i'm so doubt desperate that I start thinking, how can I just file this myself? Like, I have to try.
Starting point is 00:25:12 You know, a lot of guys get into their, like, if you have five years, a five-year sentence, a lot of guys with five-year sentences, they don't even fight their case. Why would you? Why would you fight your case? Like, it takes six months to prepare that motion. It takes, then you file it, and the government gets like three, they'll get like 90 days to respond. And then just as they're about to do their response, they'll ask the court, oh, you're
Starting point is 00:25:34 We're overwhelmed. Can you give us another 60 days? They'll go, sure, they give him another 60 days. They've got 90 days, then 60 days. Then they file. Then you have 90 days to respond. You file a 90 days. Then the government has 90 days to respond to you.
Starting point is 00:25:50 It's like it literally takes a year, maybe a year and a half before the government, before the judge actually gets the motion. And then he has, he'll hold it for six months to a year before he actually files. before he actually makes a decision. So it could take up to two years. So if you have a five-year sentence, you probably spent a year in the county jail waiting to be sentenced. You got sentenced.
Starting point is 00:26:16 You end up going to a prison. You have one year to file something. Right? You get what's called time barred. You have one year. From the date of your sentencing, you have one year to file a motion where you're basically saying, hey, this isn't right. well
Starting point is 00:26:36 and then it takes two years and then if the judge rules against you and you appeal it that takes another 18 months to two years so by that point you've served your five years sentence and a five year sentence you only served three and a half years so it's not so most guys but I had 26 years so it's like I might as well file why wouldn't I file something
Starting point is 00:26:57 it had been I was already time barred right so if you can one get around what's called the time bar like you can plead your case well enough to explain that the time bar doesn't it does not apply to you and it really kind of did apply to me so I was in prison thinking how do I file this motion I'm not a lawyer I'm already time barred it takes a fucking rocket science it takes a genius to get around the time bar like it's a miracle to get around the time bar and then even if you can get around the time bar and you file it it's a
Starting point is 00:27:34 miracle that you're going to get the the judge to rule in your favor like there's just too many things that just aren't but yeah might as well file it right why not file it but i'm not a lawyer so i'm looking around talking to some different guys in there and one of the guys in there that was doing law work was a guy named frank amadeo and i'd notice frank amadeo a year or so earlier when he first got to the institution and he was so heavily drugged that he would sit at at a table like he'd go in to eat and he just sit at the table and stare at the table. I mean, literally like drools running down his chin. Like, I mean, this is, he's on so much like Thorazine and all these different drugs because
Starting point is 00:28:14 he had what's called, he was, he is what's called a rapid cycling bipolar. And it's something like an axis, the actual, it's like an access five rapid cycling bipolar, which means he doesn't go through several days of manic episodes. he's constantly kind of up and down, up and down, up and down. And he was like comatose for like a year. Then he convinced the doctors at Coleman to take him off the drugs. So they wing him off the drugs and then he starts fighting his case. Once again, he was also time barred, by the way.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Because by the time they take him off the drugs and he's mentally capable enough to fight his own case, he's time barred. so you know what a scam that is they indict him arrest him sent convince him to be sentenced or to take a plea he takes a plea he got 22 years and frank amadeo went to prison and then they kept him so doped up he had no chance to appeal his decision and file what's called the 2255 in order to try and reverse or correct the the his sentence So, but... Book club on Monday.
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Starting point is 00:30:02 My exams provided by independent optometrists. It had been a couple years that he'd been there. And I'd noticed him, but I've never talked to him because guys were literally mocking him. They were like, you see that guy? That guy was trying to take over the world. And we were like, what? It was like a joke. He was like, yeah, yeah, listen to what he did.
Starting point is 00:30:22 This guy stole like almost $200 million from the federal government and tried to use it to take over the Congo and several different Eastern European countries. countries, tried to build his own private army. And when it, this guy literally, when it eventually started to go wrong, the U.S. attorney came in, they indicted him and they threw him in prison. He got 22 years for trying to take over the world. That's what they were saying. That wasn't really the case and you'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I'll explain it. But the taking over the world part is true. So to give you a little bit of explanation as to what his condition is, before I get into Frank's story, is this. is that Frank Amadeo is a rapid cycling bipolar with features of schizophrenia. So during the course of his extreme highs, which happened very, they spike very quickly, he believes that God is telling him that he is preordained to be emperor of the world. And he 100% believes this. And so you can imagine guys in prison.
Starting point is 00:31:31 are harsh like they they they they one they they don't believe in taking you know a lot of them don't want they don't like guys taking medication they think that makes you weak you're weak of mind you're this so to have a guy walking around that's in prison and there are newspaper articles about it and everything you know where this guy literally thinks god's telling him he's preor he's going to take over the world he's made it his destiny to be emperor of the world that's how he says it he never says president he never says ruler it's emperor of the world old so you can imagine how people kind of mock this guy even if they didn't say anything to his face they mocked him behind his back and so i'm kind of like yeah i'm not interested in dealing
Starting point is 00:32:10 with some guy who's so medicated he can't hold his mouth closed to keep the drool inside but by this point he's not on medication anymore and listen to what he's done he frank at this point has started to work on other inmates legal work Frank is actually a tax attorney, not a criminal defense attorney. And I'll explain this later. He's a disbarred attorney. We'll get into that. But for right now, let me just explain.
Starting point is 00:32:45 So what he had done was while incarcerated, Frank had put together a medium-sized law firm. He started teaching a course. Like I taught the real estate course in prison as funny as that. that is. I taught the real estate course. Like they have these things called continuing education courses, but there's no money to fund those, right? So they have inmates teach them. Like they say, oh no, we got lots of programs. Yeah, you have programs that inmates are teaching. So I'm teaching the residential real estate course. Frank Amadeo is teaching the legal research course, which is what's called. It teaches inmates how to do legal research. And they have computers in prison that have
Starting point is 00:33:29 legal cases on them right so it's it's kind of like pacer but it's a little bit scaled down version it's got about five or ten percent of the cases that are on on pacer which is the federal system but it'll but you have to know how to use the system and what to research so he starts teaching a course on how to research cases how to fight cases how to structure an argument how all the districts are broken up how to determine what case law is in each district So this is an extremely advanced course, an extremely popular course for inmates that are desperately trying to get out of prison. But during the course of this, Frank's got 30 guys, every three months, you got 30 guys coming in taking this course, maybe 40. He's able to pluck, like this guy has a keen legal mind.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Boop I'm going to use him This guy Boop Good This guy Super smart Boop This guy maybe he's not so bright
Starting point is 00:34:35 But he types well Boop Boop He puts together a A media I always say small But whenever I've said Small before
Starting point is 00:34:44 To Frank or to Any of my other buddies That were incarcerated They're like small That's at least a medium size Like this guy This guy's got He's got six guys
Starting point is 00:34:56 typing for him he has guys that are paralegals he has other guys he's like four or five guys he would call his associates which he would he would pass cases on to and he would kind of manage those this guy is working literally at one point i'll bet you he was in the process of of filing or managing over a hundred cases he had dry mount boards and listen it was so overwhelming that he i was in unit b4 he was in unit b3 they had taken every unit in the in the prison right there's four there's 12 of them every one of them had a large room probably the size of probably the size of a bedroom that they that was dedicated to be a a library for the unit so you didn't
Starting point is 00:35:55 have to go to the main library you could go to a small library they cleaned out the library and made that frank's office frank had his own legal office in the unit you had to make appointments with the guy he had he had crips you know the gang member the crypt gang members guarding the door he had crypt gang members keeping his appointment schedule for him listen i can't even tell you how insane this fucking looking back on this how insane it was. Even at the time, I was like, this is nuts. So what he had done was he put together this law firm.
Starting point is 00:36:32 He's probably working on at least roughly 100 cases. And at this point, within months of my own kind of thing falling apart, my own case and my possible reduction falling apart, I'm hearing about guys getting released. the guys are walking around going holy shit like bro you know jimmy who jimmy jimmy who you know jimmy jimmy two face oh yeah yeah yeah bro he left what he got transferred no he left his frank won his motion it was an immediate release what immediate but that doesn't happen that doesn't happen and you're like dude got fucking 30 years. Yeah, well, he'd done 15 years. Frank got him cut loose. Damn. A week later. Hey, you know, you know Tommy whatever? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The guy with the crew cut. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bro, Frank got 10 years off his sentence. What? Like, you're hearing this
Starting point is 00:37:35 every week, every two weeks. At least three, two to four times a month on average, you're hearing about Frank getting something. Somebody's case gets, you know, two years, knocked off this one four years 10 years 15 years five years six years this guy got an immediate release so after four or five months of this in my own case i'm doomed right like i can't become a lawyer in the next couple years to try and file this case my own case and by that point look i was writing my memoir i'm writing guys books like i've got i was like look i got my own little routine going on right i'm i got a good routine and if i'm okay with it do i really want to spend the next two years educating myself? I say two years because law school is two years. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:19 do I want to spend two years educating myself to become a lawyer to fight a case that's a losing battle? Or do I, or do I just go to Frank or one of these jailhouse lawyers? Like Frank was an actual lawyer on the street. So anyway, I have a buddy whose name, his name was, um, they called him Turk. His name is a Shannon. Which I guess Shannon, you don't want to be called Shannon in prison right like you know he was a pale thin pale guy with with blue eyes you know which you know is not a good look um in prison so i go to shannon and i said uh um hey bro what's up um what tell me about frank and so we start talking about frank and i tell shannon what happened in my case and he's like you need to talk to frank i'm like frank's nuts bro like i heard he's really nuts he is he is
Starting point is 00:39:12 nuts he's fucking certifiable i'm telling you you're never going to meet a more bat-shick crazy guy than frank amadeo and i'm like that's not like a strong endorsement he is i'm telling you also right now he was he's like you know that that that that black guy leroy the guy that held up the the um the armored car uh armored car and pulled a gun out and this and that and you know this and they got into a firefight and i'm like yeah yeah yeah he got like 30 years he's like yeah yeah i'm like yeah right what about him he goes frank just got 15 years knocked off his sentence he leaves in a year. He's going to get to see his son graduate high school because of that lunatic.
Starting point is 00:39:52 And I thought, I mean, that's a pretty, that's a, that's a, that's a pretty good endorsement actually. So I go to Frank with, with, uh, with Shannon. I bring, bring my case file. Well, first I bring what I have. I bring some of my stuff there. and Frank looks at it for a little bit and I stand there and he kind of flips through some stuff and looks at this and looks at that and he comes back and he says let me ask you some questions
Starting point is 00:40:18 when did they come to you and ask you to do this of this so do you have an email I said I do have an email like my lawyer sending me all this stuff like I'm constantly sending me that email send me this send me all the correspondence and she was good about that so I have a bunch of stuff um so Frank's looking at it all and he says well this is a tragedy like you they should have reduced your sentence I'm like I know but I talked to these lawyers on the street
Starting point is 00:40:47 and they said this and they said that and Frank goes no no no I'm not going to let him do this I'm not going to let him do this this is wrong he becomes indignant like I absolutely refuse to allow this to happen and I can see in his face he's about to lose it and he was like I refuse to allow
Starting point is 00:41:04 them to do this this is wrong this is what's wrong with the legal system when he was When my troops march, hold on Washington, we will burn the Constitution, and the president will kneel at my feet. I will not let this happen. And I'm sitting there, and I look over at, I look over at Shannon, and he's glancing at me and kind of like, we're, listen,
Starting point is 00:41:35 like, Frank got so nuts, like we didn't even move. you just sat there like what just happened like and i can't even do it right i'd have to start screaming and he stops and all of a sudden frank kind of stops and he goes takes a couple breaths and he goes okay i'm going to need your full transcript i'm going to need to get a copy of the case file i'm going to i'm going to go ahead and have my secretary uh order a copy of your of your docket sheet uh i'm also going to need uh the filing of your and he starts naming off all the things that he needs he said and i'm like um okay i'll have my i can have my lawyers in that stuff he's like okay all right that's perfect we're not and he looks at me and he says he was
Starting point is 00:42:19 don't worry i'm not going to let this happen i'm going to fix this i'm going to make them reduce your sentence and i walked out of there so i was like okay Okay, okay. I walked out of there and I remember thinking that I was doomed. Like, I know the result now, so I get upset about it. But I can tell you that at the time, I thought, what a, you know, this is a waste of time. This guy is not going to help me. He can't help me.
Starting point is 00:43:00 He just went on a rant about having his troops march on. on Washington This is a guy who doesn't get to pick what he eats dinner tonight You know This is a guy
Starting point is 00:43:15 Who's told when to go to sleep When to wake up So, you know What to wear So This guy's not going to help me You know I was
Starting point is 00:43:26 At that point I was so depressed So upset about the whole situation But I got All of I started gathering all of the information that Frank asked me to get. So listen, the next video I'm going to do, well, one, I appreciate you guys watching. I'm going to do another video. The next video, I'm going to get into Frank Amadeo, his basically his childhood.
Starting point is 00:43:57 When, listen, he's got so many interesting really things about like why he believes he's preordained to be emperor of the world. when he began hearing the voice of God, the CIA coming to him and trying to hire him. It's a whole interesting situation involving Amadeo. So I'm going to get into all that. And then of course, as it progresses, I will explain to you how he ended up getting my sentence reduced in that legal process. But I don't want to just do that right now. So I appreciate you guys watching. Do me a favor.
Starting point is 00:44:33 stay tuned for the next video and we're going to get into the we're going to get into um the genesis of frank amadeo if you can't wait for the rest of the video you can also buy the book you can buy the book it's insanity it's insanity the bizarre story of a bipolar megalomaniac's insane plan for total world domination it's huge bro I also have an audible version. Anyway, or stay tuned and keep watching the videos. I really appreciate you guys watching. Yeah, we're going to get into the genesis of who Frank Amadeo is.

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