Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - P DIDDY Is Going to Jail For a LONG TIME...

Episode Date: May 5, 2024

P DIDDY Is Going to Jail For a LONG TIME... ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So you got all this stuff with the girl and the freak off and all that. You got the car thing where you make a threat and to blow up somebody's car and that car does blow up. You got these gun charges out here. You got the shine thing with J-Lo and the nightclub. And all this, all this stuff now, now you're looking at a criminal enterprise. Because now if he's gone back in the houses, he's like, uh-oh. Yeah. The shit's gone.
Starting point is 00:00:19 If you were his attorney, and let's say that they really do have some stuff on him, what would you advise? Because to me, I'd be thinking, run. Here's why. Sean Combs, basically a music mogul right now. Like, the guy in the hip-hop world was just amazing. He did so many different things, bro. He took hip-hop to levels that people didn't think you can do. Like, he was making all kinds of deals.
Starting point is 00:00:40 He went from working under people to having his own record label. He had some of the hottest artists ever, you know, notorious B-I-G, Biggie. Like, that was this guy, a bunch of other artists. I'm not a huge East Coast rapper, so don't get me the name in all of them. But, you know, Sean was behind all that. they say he was more like a connector he would bring people together and make albums and he was a guy who was an entertainer
Starting point is 00:01:01 like a dancer wanted to be a rapper so he were rapping a bunch of stuff I was going to say did he start as a rapper like how did he start like behind the scenes okay like I said a connector so from what I understand you know Sean Combs was a guy who could go out and make things happen he knew people he was
Starting point is 00:01:17 you know interning and got the right mentorship and was able to move up and make getting into like A&R getting into management get into all sorts of stuff got with the label. He learned the business inside and out. So he was that guy. He was the go-to guy to make stuff happen, man.
Starting point is 00:01:32 We get this concert over here. We need this artist and talk to that. We need to get these people in. We need to get his writer over here. We need to get his producer over here. And they were making hits. He was doing great. And not only just with the music,
Starting point is 00:01:43 once he really got going, he got into fashion. His own lining of suits and, like, street clothes and then like tailored types of suits, like really hanging suits. He got into alcohol. You know what I mean? Like vodka and tequila and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:01:54 He, like, he had his hand in everything. He's getting money, bro. It was just coming in. But, you know, he was just known as this producer, you know what I mean, artists type thing. Working with the biggest names, you know, working with, you know, BIG. And, of course, we know how that went. And, you know, he was still able to go forward and get more artists and come in. You know, like, Sean was making that happen.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Now, you've heard of Harvey Weinstein. Yeah. Yeah. So, and you've heard of the casting couch and all that kind of stuff, right? Yeah. Yeah. He was taking it. He was making it. He was, he was, he was, it was not a rumor with, yeah, with Weinstein. Yeah, yeah. He was the worst kept secret in Hollywood. Right. The thing would, but the thing was. Well, he was crushing. Like, he crushed a bunch of, every time it starts to come out, he'd crush it. He'd crush it. He'd crush it. Pay him out. Pay him off. He was able to keep it. NDAs. I'll blackball you. He's the biggest, biggest. He was putting out hit after hit after hit. Allegedly, the way it went down is Weinstein was like, hey. bring the hot girl in, whoever she is,
Starting point is 00:02:56 throw some scripts, pick whatever script you want, you'll be, you know what I mean, and I'll get you in that movie, but you're going to have to do a little something for me. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:03 You know what I mean? It's kind of one of those things. Like, you know what I mean? And, you know, from what I understand, he kept his word. You know, it's a lot of women
Starting point is 00:03:11 that didn't say nothing to do that whole Me Too movement because they became A-lister because of that deal they made with this guy. And a lot of people who were making noise, it seems that they were making noise because they got the,
Starting point is 00:03:23 he held up, as in and a bargain, but they weren't good. They couldn't really do it. Like the job itself, they didn't really make it happen. They got their shot and they fumbled or whatever, and now they're mad at him. All right, so the music business, far worse, in my opinion, with respect to that than the movie business. In the movie business, like, Frankson was bad.
Starting point is 00:03:45 The music business, this is why they say that Russell Simmons left when Me Too hit and left to a country where it with no extradition with America. you know what I mean Sean Cones was in that group where they're doing what they want to do with whoever they want to do it with and allegedly this has been going on for decades. I've heard the rumors
Starting point is 00:04:04 you know what I mean? I messed around in a hip-hop business and you hear the rumors and Sean Cones has all these parties and all these things and what's going on and women started to come out here and there and say yeah I saw Sean with this girl I saw Sean with this guy I walked in on them and they was doing this
Starting point is 00:04:20 they were wearing that and you have all these rumors about him being, you know, you know, roaming with it, let's say. He's like equal opportunity pleaser, whatever. You know what I mean? So now this all comes to the forefront. He recently settled a case with a former, with an ex-girlfriend. And I don't know how much it was. I think it was north of $30 million.
Starting point is 00:04:42 She filed a case. Yeah, you can read, if you read the indictment, bro. Because it was civil. So if you read the complaint, I guess it wouldn't indict, but if you read the complaint, what you can, it's online. I covered it on my platform. I needed to take a shower after I read about what was going on, what she alleged. And, you know, Sean Combs camp paid her off immediately.
Starting point is 00:05:02 That came out the next day, paid her off. So now, it seems that somehow the feds have gotten involved. And they're looking at all of these allegations stacked up against him. I mean, you got, you know, like the essay stuff, you know, with women. men or whatever. You've got, you know, allegations of drug use. You've got allegations of murder. You know, they're saying that Sean Cones may have paid money in the assassination of a Tupac secure. You know, you got people talking about that. So all this has been, you know, kind of unwinding over the past, you know, 10 years or so. And now you have this, they hit his houses, they searched his
Starting point is 00:05:48 homes, went in heavy. I don't know if you saw that on the news. No, yeah, yeah, of course. heavy, you know, so you know, if the fares is on you, the fares got a case, you know what I mean? It's a problem. It ain't just smoke. There's got to be some fire there if the fares is coming in doing stuff, right? Because the fares don't lose. They ain't just picking up any old body's case. It's not state stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:05 It's the fair stuff. So all of the rumors and all the speculation and now YouTube, all these people are coming out saying, yeah, Sean Cohn's mayor did he did this, did he did that, whatever, whatever. You know, the fairs letting you know, like, hey, man, we're watching you. They got him at the airport. picked up his buddy, had a white guy with him. The white guy had on weed and, you know, some pills or whatever on these, some drugs. Took him away.
Starting point is 00:06:29 You know, and it's like, people like, oh, man, he had a drug mule. Like, come on, man, ain't no drug mule. That's just the fairest letting you know they're watching you, bro. Hey, man, where are you going? You know what I mean? We see that you gasping up the airplane. You plan on going anywhere, Sean Combs? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:06:43 We got the manifest, you know, we got the flight plan. Oh, looks like you're trying to go down to the Bahamas. Well, we think you should, you might want to stay in the country a little bit long. Right? That kind of thing. They were watching him. They're watching him close. And he's a little worried. But no indictment has come down and no arrest to this point. I was going to say, what about the drug meal? Like how much, like the guy that had the drugs on? What did he get charged with? He got charged with possession, controlled substance. I mean, it was like, you know, whatever marijuana he had. You know what I mean? I don't even think he had like an ounce or anything like that. It was like all personal use or whatever. And I talked about that on my show. I'm like, look, but there ain't no drug mule. Like Sean Combs ain't tied up into nothing like that. You know what I mean? Like the other stuff, yeah. So allegedly what it is is Sean Combs will always have, allegedly, someone near him
Starting point is 00:07:28 that would have his drugs of choice to just carry his stuff. You know, if his pills, if his marijuana, if his powder, if it's whatever. So, you know, now it's all kind of allegations coming out. People are saying, yeah, this is how we're working. There are other guys who have worked with him producers that have filed civil suits as well, trying to get a payday, right? So it just looks like Sean Combs is the center of this investigation. And it might turn out to be a RICO situation where he is the criminal enterprise
Starting point is 00:07:58 and is going to encompass a whole bunch of crimes going back a couple decades. You know, Sean Combs has caught multiple gun charges over the decades. You know what I mean? Like threatening people with weapons. There was a shooting inside of a nightclub. Jennifer Lopez was with him. Another rapper is just rapper named Shine. and as the story goes, allegedly Sean
Starting point is 00:08:19 just took the case and said, yeah, I did the shooting, but they say it was really Sean Combs. It was in the club shooting at some dude. No one died, but people did get hit allegedly. There's another instance in California. Some dude was shot in the bathroom and one of their studio sessions or whatever,
Starting point is 00:08:34 and they say that maybe Sean has something to do with that. That's Diddy y'all has something to do with that. Just go anywhere, type in Diddy's name, it all comes up. So, of course, he's worried. There are allegations that, you know, they're looking at his sons. Maybe his sons are involved. And then, you know, there's allegations of drugging people, underage women,
Starting point is 00:08:57 transporting underage girls from state to state, city to city. Which is where the sex trafficking comes in. That's where the trafficking comes in. You know, there's people saying that, yeah, there's a certain type of drug that he liked that he could get in Miami. It's like, I don't know, some sort of pink ecstasy or, I don't know, some drug that I ain't ever heard of. Right. that he would have people fly from Miami to LA because he's in the studios
Starting point is 00:09:19 and he wants this drug or whatever, so you got that case? You know what I mean? Because, I mean, I don't even know how they do that, but if you're moving drugs from point A and you fly the country to point B, I mean, I don't know what they can charge you for. Traffic.
Starting point is 00:09:33 It would be trafficking, right? Conspiracy to traffic at whatever it is. So all this is going on with Sean Combs and people are like, well, is he guilty? Is he not? You know, the court of public opinion has him guilty of sin. You know, rumors say, yeah, this is how he used to get down.
Starting point is 00:09:48 But here you got this kid who worked himself up from nothing and made himself a legit billionaire. And he's already on that, I'm the man, I'm the greatest ever, whatever I won't I get. You know what I mean? Can't stop, won't stop. You got that attitude. Couple that with a bunch of money.
Starting point is 00:10:04 And a lot of people that's going to empower you to do stuff. You know, that never ends well. How did, so how did all, how do you think all of this got? got started like i mean was it what do you think it was the one initial civil case with the girl or do you think it's a it's been building or what i think it's the one civil case with a girl i think i think it's a combination of both i think law enforcement you know when they look at stuff and you got maybe some cold case files you got some other cases out there and it's always a detective that's like man look i don't know about this bro right we need to keep we need to keep our eye on this so i think
Starting point is 00:10:41 you have that and then you have this woman who comes out with these allegations and then you can see the paperwork. And it's like, see, I told you, let's talk to her. Let's see what she knows about this nightclub thing. Let's see what she knows about this gun thing. There's an allegation that this girl was dating another artist, a rapper, and Sean Cohn was threatened to blow the guy's car up, and then the guy's car blew up, right?
Starting point is 00:11:04 That's out there. That's part of her thing. If you're dealing with something like, all right, bro, we got the paperwork on this car explosion. What does she know? You know how they work. Yeah, I was going to say, though, like typically, if it was me or you, the allegations alone would be worth it because they, all they need to get is for people to sit on the, on the, sit in the witness box, you know, they indict you, which is easy. Then they, you know, they indict you, they charge you, they arrest you, you, you get out on bond, you know, or you probably, well, I'm never getting, I'm not getting out of bond.
Starting point is 00:11:42 but let's say it was you or I not hard to indict you not hard to charge you you and I go to prison you'd probably get on bond because you're an upstanding citizen I don't but and then you know whatever six months later
Starting point is 00:11:55 I go to trial they just put four three or four people on the stand to say this is what he did he did this they don't really need any real evidence to convict me and in that case if it was just four people I'm not sure how much of a chance I would have maybe
Starting point is 00:12:11 maybe 80 maybe maybe it's probably 80 to 90% chance I'd be found guilty right assuming that they don't that the jury doesn't know anything about my history right I was going to say yeah throw in the text messages or or voice recording that's I was going to say but actually but evidence you know for a celebrity who can mount a defense like him he that takes a lot more than four or five people saying this is what he did you know you know, circumstant, and they're being circumstantial evidence, then they're going to say, okay, well, how can you prove this? And they're going to be, if they go, look, and they show, here's a text, you know, here's a text chain. I said this, he said this, you know, boom,
Starting point is 00:12:54 boom, boom. They're like, oh, shit, yeah, that sounds really bad. And then this one. And then here's a photo here. And then here's an email. Here's this. Talk to so-and-so. And then so-and-so corroborates that. And before you know it, you've got, okay, it's not just four people saying, yeah, this is what happened. We have no evidence. It's four people plus video. Plus, there's some surveillance footage when I said this. You see him run out of the thing. Well, that's why he ran out. You know, there's text messages.
Starting point is 00:13:17 There's this. You put that together. Guy, he's, but he's got a really good lawyer. He's probably still screwed. So, yeah, he probably said, I don't know what I'm wondering is, and what I don't know that anybody knows this yet, is like, what is the evidence to tie all this together other than a few people saying he's a bad person, he made me do things.
Starting point is 00:13:41 So-and-so brings in drugs for him. Like, okay, all of this is hearsay. It's admissible. But it's still hearsay. So one of the things that this woman, Cassie, who was an artist under his label and was signed to, I think, a 10-year deal or something like that, and he was basically using her as his plaything.
Starting point is 00:14:04 He allegedly would have her engage in. group sex with paid male prostitutes. And he would film and he would watch and he would... He's paying her, so he's paying the... Okay. And paying her because she works for him. Right. So...
Starting point is 00:14:20 But she's supposed to be his girlfriend sort of thing. That's almost like, like you're just paying porn actors. Yes. So, allegedly these events were called freak-offs. Broly, I'm surprised you have it. I'm going to send you, I'm going to send you, you, you get. got to read the complaint. If I'm going to read the complaint, I wouldn't have you here.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Bro, you need to read it. But even after I leave, you need to read it. Like, it's going to blow your mind. I mean, I heard there's like there's these extensive sex parties and... They would call the sex parties a freak-offs. And then, you know, like they would have lots of drugs. They get, like, cocaine and pills and tons of alcohol. She would say, I don't even remember some of this stuff, but she would have to basically
Starting point is 00:15:01 engage in intimacy with these men who were paid, right? And he would have her pay up. everyone and set the thing up and all this kind of stuff, and they would do it in, you know, penthouses and high-end hotels and stuff like that. So there may be evidence out there. Like, okay, maybe we got film of all these people going into the penthouse. Maybe we got film of how tore up the place was. They had to put it back together. You know, like, hey, we had to charge you an extra money because the place was so messed up. Maybe, again, it's as I was just me speculating, maybe they got some of the men who were paid to do this, the male sex workers.
Starting point is 00:15:35 She's already said she did it He gave me the money I paid for this I set this up His other people on the staff Set this up There's allegations that he would be physically abusive Towards her And would get her medical records
Starting point is 00:15:49 And keep her away from the public eye And make sure she couldn't talk to anybody You have all these allegations And allegedly that's why they paid her off So soon But maybe the fed's got information Maybe the feds are talking to people Maybe he filmed all this
Starting point is 00:16:05 Remember, he filmed all this allegedly. Maybe they got a hold of something in his film. You read like during the raids. Like during the raids they would have to get a hold of. Or someone came forward and said, hey, man, I got this. Well, I mean, God knows what they got during the raid. Like, they didn't raid his house just to say. Two homes.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Well, they didn't rate his homes just to say, look what we can do. They were going for something. Look at something. Right. So she probably was able to say, you know, like I've heard different things. Like he had every single room was wired. for audio and video, right? And so, and that a lot of the sex party
Starting point is 00:16:39 or some of the sex parties happened, sorry, the freakoffs? Freakoffs. Some of the freaks happened at his homes. So, and that people, he would record people without them knowing, like, that's a whole separate charge. Yeah, that's another crime. So if, let's face it, if I say this is happening over here,
Starting point is 00:16:58 even if I don't have any evidence, but you raid my house to try and look for that evidence, you get other evidence that supports it, people are going to believe anything I said over here. Even if there's no evidence, they're going to be like, listen, if you did this, of course he did that, of course he did, even though we can't prove that. Plus, there's no way that she's saying all these things and that they, based on who he is, that they don't, like, she said, this happened, this happened, and they were like, and they were
Starting point is 00:17:21 to say to her, give us something. There's got to be some texts, something. Something. Right. So if she said all that and there was no text, they're not going to move forward because he can mount a defense. So there had to be enough for her, for them to one, two. take it serious. Two, get search warrants because it's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Like the feds know they're going to be under scrutiny if they raid the place and come up empty. It's a billionaire. You hit his L.A. and Miami mansions at the same time with all this equipment, all these weapons. The hidden spot in Star Island, man, they need a boats. It looked like a SEAL Team 6. It hit the joint. They have boats pulling up. They had stuff in the water. They riding up. So helicopters all over the place. That costs a lot of money. And, you know, they tipped off the cops, right, because when there's helicopters and you got to have local guys involved. How many times do the feds take a case that they can't win? I mean, well, I mean, obviously they never take one.
Starting point is 00:18:18 They don't think they can win. But, I mean, the average is like 97% conviction rate. Conviction rate. But that includes people that have been indicted and pled guilty. So when you really think about it, so people, usually they'll that will carry over for people and they'll say well if you go to trial you have a 97 percent the truth is if you go to trial you actually have a better percentage which is still you have what five or 10 percent chance of winning if you go to trial and and keep in mind
Starting point is 00:18:50 that doesn't mean you win all like they'll count that some of that as a win if you were charged with 10 counts and you were found not guilty on three of those counts but seven you were found guilty, they'll say that three goes into the, that's part of the average. But the truth is, you're still going to prison. So people will say, well, look, three of three, you know, three of the 10 charges or 11 charges, they were found not guilty. So he did win. Yeah, you won three, but you're still doing 10 years or 20 or 30. Right. So that's usually what that means. Is there like, you have a 30% chance or you have a 10% chance of being found not guilty. No. No, you're probably still have a 98. percent chance to go into prison. I always say, look, if you're guilty, you've got a hundred
Starting point is 00:19:35 percent chance of being found guilty. If you're not guilty, you have about a 50 percent chance. Now you got a way out to offer versus what you could be facing. Yeah. That's when you get into that. Okay, you can do five years or you might be doing 25 years if you don't win this case. If I'm so, one of the, one of my biggest shorts I put out there is like, should, like, should Sean Combs fight this case or take a deal? Now, you got this kind of money. You're a billionaire. You look, You know what you did. Like you said, you know what you did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:03 You won't know what the feds have until discovery. But by that time, it's too late. You've already made up your mind, right? You're not going to get to see discovery before, you know, you get arrested and charged. And, you know, now you're- Yeah, they don't, he had no idea this was coming. He couldn't have had any idea. So he doesn't know what they have.
Starting point is 00:20:19 So I was saying, like, well, what I go to the government and say, hey, we're going to save you some money so we don't have to go through this. You don't have to fight us. You know, I got billions. I got a billion. y'all got billions. I'm willing to do five years in the camp or eight years or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:20:35 I'll pay restitution. I'm cool with that. If we can make that some sort of deal, should you do that and take the deal or should you just use your money and resources and try to fight it? But still he doesn't know what he's fighting it because there's no indictment.
Starting point is 00:20:48 He can't see what he's being charged with and if it's Rico. Well, at some point he's going to be able to see it. At some point. So at some point, you know, let's say three months from now when they come to him, when they rest him, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:59 you know, and they'll just come arrest him. Like, they're not going to call and tell him to turn yourself in. They'll probably just come arrest him because they made such a big deal about this raid. They're probably just going to grab him one day. Right. Yeah. So they'll grab him, throw him in. He'll probably be out right away unless they get, it depends.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I mean, he's got his own plane. He's got this. He's got to have to put up a lot to get out because the feds don't like to let you out. But he's also super, here's the thing. He's what weighs into it, too, is that he's super recognizable. So it's like where he can't, you know, that's the argument for the defense. Your Honor, he can't go in. Where is he going?
Starting point is 00:21:30 He wouldn't make it a week on the run. Plus, we don't want him inside. What if someone tried to do something to? We got to try to keep all the extra money we've got to spend to try to keep him away from everybody. Well, in a way, though, he'd probably be better off inside. Not for safety, but at least, this is going to sound horrible, but to get his head right. Because sit down. So you think, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 So he can really think like, hey, like right now, like initially when he gets grabbed, he's thinking, I can't do all this time. It's going to be horrible. But after two or three months, you start to, you know, your expectations of life dropped dramatically. Initially, he can't, he gets, the first two or three days, he can't conceive of having to spend 10 years in prison. So even if you said three years on a camp, he'd say, no, I'm going to go to trial. You're guilty. No, we're going to win a trial. He doesn't, he's not thinking correctly, right?
Starting point is 00:22:21 Like, you know, you're at this level. You're not even able to consider being at this level. even when you're sitting in that cell. But after a few months, he'll start to realize, like, I could, these guys are telling me that I'll go to a camp or I'll go to a low and it's not bad. And I can read. And I'll still be able to talk to people on the phone. I'll get commissary.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I'll be able to walk the track. I'll get in good shape. I can still work on things that I can do in the future. And that's reasonable. And, you know, if his lawyers are smart and not trying to bleed them dry, because they'll tell you stuff like, we can win this. You give me 50 million and we can win. Lawyers are scumbags.
Starting point is 00:22:56 So, you know, they may be just looking at him thinking, hey, we can make $20 million on a defense. We'll lose, but it'll look good, we'll muddy the waters, and we'll make $20 million, and he'll lose, and in the end, he'll lose, and he'll get a bunch of time. And then how much you get on the appeal? Oh, yeah. Oh, man, and then the appeal, which is funny because the appeal has even less chance of winning than the trial, and especially if you're guilty. But some of these guys, you know, their egos are so big that they can't concede, even
Starting point is 00:23:26 though you clearly broke the law, they can't conceive that it would catch up with them. And that's dude. He's that guy. Well, then he's going to go to trial, even though he can't conceive that he could end up in prison. And that's the worst possible situation is because most of the time, that guy does a lot of time. Because here's why. He's, first of all, these are, they're going to make it sound horrific. No matter what. Look, it doesn't matter if she was into it. They're going to make it sound hurt. And she's going to make it sound hurt. And she's going to make you sound that this guy's on the stand saying he did this and he did that and graphically describe what happened well it was this one guy who had this thing that was like
Starting point is 00:24:06 this big and it was like the other guy and then I was right there and he was telling me to do this bro I wouldn't want to sit through that like oh and here's the thing too in the end so in the end he ends up getting hit he ends up getting found guilty of like sex trafficking and keep mind too the jury doesn't know what he's facing when a jury's told all this unless you're facing murder I mean I'm sorry a death sentence they have no idea what you're the only time they let a jury know here is the potential um sentence is if it's the death penalty because they have to have a specific trial set aside saying can you are you willing to sentence this man to death so in that case they're like okay i know
Starting point is 00:24:45 he's facing death that's it other than that the jury may be thinking like there'll be some jackass on the jury saying man he's facing probation he ain't even he's rich he's this he's this he's not even going to get probation. Or he's not going to do any jail time. He's going to get probation. There's going to be some jerk off saying that, not realizing, I can't tell you how many times I've talked to people where after these people are found guilty
Starting point is 00:25:08 and then three months later they're sentenced to 30 years and the jurors are like, I had no idea. I thought he was going to get four or five years. So if I'd known that, I never would, which is why we don't let you know that. So, so one, if he's found guilty, he's being found guilty of charges like sex trafficking, you know? It may be like a murder for hire.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Right. Possibly. Yeah. Even if, even if they, you know, a lot of times what they'll do is they'll talk about it and then they'll drop the charge because they didn't meet the burden of proof. But the jury heard it. Does the judge say I can instruct you to unhear that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:53 And here's the thing. Now the judge is thinking. you just got that dropped on a technicality, but I'm going to keep it in mind when I sentence you. Because he can consider, I forget what they call it something, you know, like A12 factors or say, got some name for the factors. Like, I'm allowed as a judge to consider other factors in your sentencing, which allows them to go above the sentencing guidelines. But let's put that aside.
Starting point is 00:26:17 The jury's going to be like human trafficking, sex traffic. It's going to be these horrific, you know, drug trafficking, all that they're going to make him sound horrific. And let's face it, he's not Elizabeth Holmes. No, it's not. He's not, you know, he's not a 32-year-old that can cry her eyes out and talk about how she's been taking advantage of. He's not a blonde hair, blue-eyed, upper-middle-class white woman. Yeah, he's a well-manicured black dude with a fur. Yeah. He's sitting there like, sitting there in the thing with her. I told you not to wear the fur. Chinchilla. Yeah. There's no chinchilla in prison, I promise you. But, But, yeah, I definitely would see, unless they gave him some sweetheart deal where it was
Starting point is 00:27:00 like probation, but they're not, they didn't do all this to give him probation. Can't do probation. I'm like, yo, give me Bernie made our soul room, bro. Let me hit that camp, play some tenants, walk the track, like you said, man. I'm cool with that. But I'm not a guy that has that ego, like you're saying, and a billion dollars. You've been in the military, too. Listen, you know how many guys are in the prison that have been in the military to tell you
Starting point is 00:27:23 like, yeah, this isn't that much. different, you know, although they don't get their go out and, you know, jump out of planes and shit. I got a buddy of mine who, um, that I heard, he was, I say buddy, he was in our unit, good soldier, really good soldier. I'm not going to say his name, but this guy actually did a combat jump. He actually jumped into Panama, and, um, which is cool, if you're a parachute and if you got a gold star in the risers, like, on your jump wings, like the risers are the lines that go
Starting point is 00:27:48 from a parachute to you, those are called risers. On your jump wings, if there's a gold star in those risers, that means you did a combat You actually jumped into combat. So this is during when they upended a Noriega, right? Yeah, so he was on that mission. He jumped in. Watch this. No, I didn't think so.
Starting point is 00:28:05 He jumped in on that. And so to us it was like, he walks on water. Like, dude, got a gold star. Like, dude, you know what I mean? So anyway, I hear decades later, they're like, yeah, man, you know, dude locked up. Like, for what? Got into an MC out there riding around. Some dude in the truck was kind of like, I don't know, weaving or something.
Starting point is 00:28:24 They thought he was trying to weave him off the road, him and his homeboys. They pull out a pistol, dump into the truck. And what it was is the guy's child was doing something. The guy was trying to take it a child. He was weaving around. He didn't realize that the motorcycle guys were out there, goes to get some gas. The MC dudes run up, pull out the thing, you know what I mean? Shoot up the car.
Starting point is 00:28:43 From the way I understand, no one was hurt. But he shot up the car. That's attempted. Yeah, there's at least two counts of attempted whatever. He's sitting down somewhere. So, great soldier, hardcore dude, you know what I mean? But you hear stories like that, it's like, yeah, it's not the life, like the structured life and all that.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Soldiers can adapt to almost any situation. So I can see soldiers being able to, especially like combat guys, they can adjust to that, you know, but still it's sad. You know what I mean? That's how your story ends, bro. You know what I mean? Or even if you do, I don't know, 30 years in there, whatever, 25 years, and then whatever he got.
Starting point is 00:29:20 he was already in his 40s so you know by the time you come home man it's over bro like you just hate to hear that man that's real American hero bro but yeah Sean Combs is not that he's not I was going to see
Starting point is 00:29:34 so we're just going to see how this plays out I mean the story that Sean Combs has something to do with it with you know with Tupac getting murdered um
Starting point is 00:29:47 there's a gangster L.A gangster Lifeline gang should call Kifie D. He got arrested. He went on Vlad and killed a bunch of shit and wrote a book and thought he was good. They said like when Vlad was to people, I've seen people talk about this. They say Kifie D got confused because he had been, he had talked to law enforcement before and they made him king for a day kind of thing or is a queen for whatever that?
Starting point is 00:30:14 Queen for a day. Queen for a day. And he was telling everything. okay he thought he was immune oh no not on a murder chart they'll never give you an immunity on a murder charge so he goes on fly out all these years later as he talks about it he's like what y'all mean they come show up you know what you're talking about
Starting point is 00:30:32 nah man we I'm good right Nevada wants to talk to you bro Clark County or whatever wants to talk to and the same two guys who were working our murder from the very beginning all right man now tell it now we know now we can tell you to this We could tell you to that, da-da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Everyone in the car that did the shooting that night is gone, except for Kee-Feedee-D. Right. So it's easy for him to say, well, no, I didn't do that. It was him, him, him, and all those dudes are gone. And the story is that Sean Combs paid a million dollars. You say, hey, I'll put a million dollars on this. And when it happened, allegedly there's some phone calls made where, you know, Sean Combs are saying, was that us?
Starting point is 00:31:13 And paid the money out to a New York gangster. and you know that's where it gets all blurry and convoluted and I don't know what or whatever but that's allegedly what's being said so that's the tie to the Tupac thing and what do the feds have on that what did Keefei D say and like you said
Starting point is 00:31:33 when you know you send down bro hey people looking at stuff like that they pretty much do anything to anything right to get some love off them of them numbers you're looking at football numbers bro like you know what I'm saying Lyman numbers you're looking at 60 something Some years, like, bro, what y'all want to know?
Starting point is 00:31:48 We'll knock that down, bro. So we'll see how that plays out. But you have all these scattered cases and all these things that's going on over the decades. And it was Myron Gaines from Fresh and Fit, who has his own show because Myron is a former federal investigator, Homeland Security, HSI. He broke it down. And he was like, yeah, they're going to try to make this a RICO. And they're going to say that Sean Cohns is a criminal. enterprise and so you got all this stuff with the girl and the freak off and all that
Starting point is 00:32:20 you got the car thing where you make a threat and to blow up somebody's car and that car does blow up you got these gun charges out here where you know they showed you love in new york ran this in a firearm firearm and all that they mark it down to misdemeanors or whatever you got the shine thing with jalo and the nightclub and they say that you know shine took the case and did the time and said he did it for X amount of money if they you know they did they love to track money you know that they find it okay you do you did, in fact, pay money to got to him, well, what was this money for? And then, you know, the drug stuff, like flying your favorite drugs from this, and all this, all this stuff. Now,
Starting point is 00:32:56 now you're looking at a criminal enterprise. Well, plus, what about the, the Tupac thing? And that. Yeah. If you could tie him to that. If you could tie him to that. If they're going to time to everything, you can tie him to, now statutes of limitations don't mean anything because it's a RICO, right? Now they can go back and look at that because it's a criminal enterprise. And that's what scared me. I didn't realize. I'm like, what, that's a work around around a statute of limitation? Well, they tied to O'Ricos, the Enterprise, and we could do this, this and this, that's scary. So I had a guy that, and this is a good example of that, is that I knew a guy that was running a tax scam. And so he did it in, I don't know what years it was. Let's say it was
Starting point is 00:33:33 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, and then he stopped. And like four years went by. So with the statute of limitations is like three years right so he's money right so he's good he then um he then did it like in 2000 and whatever 2000 you know whatever eight nine um and then a buddy of his he showed a buddy of his how to do it he did it was off muscle uh off the muscle uh he did it with his buddy and his buddy got caught oh his buddy was just a complete idiot like i mean he's like one of these guys that walks in the bank is like i i need a hundred thousand in cash you know that kind of stuff They're like, what do you doing? Like, so they were like, okay.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Here you go. Right. So, you know, a week later, or three days later, they actually give them like a cash or something. It creates a, you know, cash transaction report and a suspicious activity report. And he actually took the money. He went and he bought like a $100,000 RV or something. Like, he just spent the money in really stupid ways that raised red flags. And so when the feds come in and grab him, he immediately says, this guy's done it multiple times.
Starting point is 00:34:41 He's been doing it for over 10, 12, 10, 11 years. he taught me how to do it. Now, what's interesting about that is they charged him with two years. So out of six, they charged him with two because he stopped for three years. So the statute of limitations, but it didn't connect. Does that make sense? If you're doing this on a constant thing, but you had a break. And that break broke. So because he could have been charged with the whole thing, even though think about it, if it's a 10-year run and you have a statute of limitations of three years, you go, okay, well, then you could only go back three years. No. No. It's the same continuing crime. Right. So we go back all the way. Day one.
Starting point is 00:35:20 But he had a break. A good break. Like a look, a real legit break. Right. Right. So he stopped for like four years. So they said, okay, these we can't charge you with. These two years we can. Plus, of course, they tie him in with his idiot buddy. So that's the whole thing. But, you know, like you said, but the, the RICO thing, it just sounds to me like one crime is leading to another crime. Like there's a whole connection between all of them. So he's not going to get away with saying he was 50. 15 years ago or 25 years ago. Well, yeah, you've been doing this for forever. Forever. So, like in your example, you got old boy who had to break. But then let's say he did something with the stupid dude, but the stupid dude and him were both working under me, and I'm doing something else.
Starting point is 00:35:58 You know, I'm out here doing all this other. You could tie it all together with RICO. And RICO brings all of that in there. Well, that's because y'all are now part of an enterprise. Even though they're all completely different crimes, too. Yeah, but it's still, it's still a criminal enterprise. We're still doing, we're doing multiple crimes. When they make the pyramid, you're in trouble.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Yeah. And that's my cell phone. Well, you got you on the pyramid? Is your name on a pyramid? Is somebody the top and then it filters all the way down? You're in trouble, bro. And one, of course, they don't need that much evidence. But the fact that they rated his house because they definitely felt there were stuff there.
Starting point is 00:36:30 So God knows what they found there. And they're going to put everything. Listen, I knew a guy one time. I think I've mentioned this before, too. So the government's alleging that, you know, he's, I forget how many million, if it was 20 million or $20,000. 30, whatever. It's 30, let's say a $30 million scam, right, that he's running. They spent a day just showing the jury, he's on the stand, asking him, what was this check for? And you look at it. And he'd go, I mean, I took a few people out. We spent, he's like, well, what is it? We spent
Starting point is 00:37:02 $1,200, you know, for dinner. Okay. What's this check for? He's like, I mean, that's when I bought my Bentley. It was, it was $800,000. Oh, okay. What's this? He said, all day, all day. He said, can you, the jury hated his guts by the time they were done. And the fact is, is that spending money isn't, you know. That's not illegal. Huh? Like spending money. It's not illegal.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I mean, I just was spending money. Like, I was just buying stuff. Like some of just, he's the fact that you're spending $1,200 on this, $800,000 on this, $200,000 on your house, $400,000 on this, $400,000 on a vacation. You know, these people couldn't get themselves out of jury duty. Like, you know, they're pissed, they're there, and they hate your gut. Like, even if they thought, you know what, I don't think he did anything illegal. They're still thinking, fuck this rich dude. Here's our chance.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Yeah. Here's our chance. On July 18th, get excited. This is big. For the summer's biggest adventure. I think I just smurf my pants. That's a little too excited. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Smurfs. Only dinner's July. teeth. We could put one away, you know, and yeah, man, that. So I'm saying they'll, they'll twist things in a way that make the jury hate your guts and not think you're, and plus all the people that are going to get on the stand and just say, he did this, he did this, he did this. It's crazy, man, and I do have experience with court, because in our field, air traffic control. When something goes wrong, the lawyers come. Right. Especially if there's loss of life. you know there's loss of life man you're looking at it could be decades of litigation the thing that
Starting point is 00:38:47 happened with Kobe man that's going to be in the course forever and whenever it comes up it's going to we got to have controllers coming they're going to talk to all the controls that they may have talked to that helicopter um which which is you know you know fun facts I was sitting in the tower and that you know Kobe and this helicopter came flying through our airspace that day the last air traffic control facility that they saw out the window was ours You know, the last one that they talked to with the guys in San Diego, like the radar guys, but then that was right before they crashed. But they came flying through, and I'm sitting there.
Starting point is 00:39:19 And I've never, in my 20 years plus experience in the FAA, seen a reaction from the government like I saw when Kobe's helicopter went down and those people lost their lives. They came, and they came fast. They came from everywhere. And they talked to all of us. It's like, why are you talking to us? I guess there's nothing to talk about well it was a day
Starting point is 00:39:42 what were you doing whatever position you were working in the tower in the air traffic control world there are multiple positions in the towers different people doing different things and everything's recorded and everything you know there's paperwork for everything
Starting point is 00:39:53 I'm doing the least important job I'm up there you can literally just have your feet kicked up you ain't doing nothing and they talked to me for hours just me telling them nothing happened like this is like you said
Starting point is 00:40:07 well what did you do uh you know at two hours and 15 minutes and 38 seconds what were you doing uh i was still sitting in the same seat that i told you i was sitting in uh did you type any did you do any inputs on any of your uh systems no uh what was the weather i don't know check the weather report like did you do the weather at the proper time yes you know me what was the weather i don't recall you gotta be careful can't say i didn't know i don't recall because you say you didn't know now they got you all that If we can find that these guys are at fault, that means the government is at fault. That means we're going to get more money.
Starting point is 00:40:44 So, yeah, sitting there, where they're holding up each check, that has to be painful. I've been sitting in, like, depositions, and they're, like, we're looking at the radar display, and we're going second by second, literally, bro. Second by second by second. And, you know, they're just trying to break you. They're just trying to get you to just get flustered, say something crazy, and now we can say see, see, this controller. It's his fault.
Starting point is 00:41:10 He wasn't blah, blah, blah. I hate the court system, man, when you get into that. But it's just people getting paid out. Yeah, I was going to say if, in Diddy's case, you're going to have some problems because they're going to come up with so much, you know, like I said, like, just like, even if it's irrelevant, they'll make it feel relevant. You've heard, like, you ever seen, well, if you ever watch court TV where they'll
Starting point is 00:41:35 ask the same question, like five, different ways. And the thing is, is people, well, they're trying, one, they're probably trying to get a certain response. But secondly, by asking it five different ways, the jury starts to think, it starts to make you look guilty of something. Right. Like, he's asked it five different times. He obviously knows something. Yeah. Why does he keep asking that? Right. And you're saying, and trying to get you to sound like you're covering something or stumbling over something or rewording your answer, which makes you sound less credible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:09 You don't want to sound too robotic, but then you don't want to sound too loose, and then you don't want, you don't want to sound too coached. You don't want it to sound rehearsed. It's like, bro, I didn't do anything. Like, I did my job that day, and the airplane fell out to sky. Sorry, the mechanic messed up. There's so many cases where, like, the mechanic messed up and they know
Starting point is 00:42:25 it, but the mechanic didn't have insurance. There's no money. He didn't work for a corporation. He was just an independent contract or whatever, and there's no money. He got all insurance money. So we can show to the FAA did something. Air traffic did something. Well, FAA got a lot of money. Right. You know what I mean? Or we could show that Cessna, he was flying in a Cessna aircraft. Well, we could show that Cessna messed up. It wasn't a mechanic. It was Cessna.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Cessna made a mistake and they broke this or they broke that. Now we could get Cessna to pay us a bunch of money because that's like Ford in the aviation business. Cessna is huge. Right. So that's what they, that's what you said. They're going to ask the same thing over and over and over again in different ways. Man, I don't like that world at all. Like what you said about attorneys and I have attorneys in my family. I love them to death. but like that world. I even got a cousin who's a judge now. I love what she's doing. It's kind of to see one of my cousins as actual a judge sitting on a bench.
Starting point is 00:43:14 It's like, wow, that's kind of cool. At the same time, she sees stuff. She's like, yeah, this is crazy. But, yeah, Sean Combs has got a problem, bro. I would, like, if you were his attorney, and let's say that they really do have some stuff on him, what would you advise? You're trying not to make money.
Starting point is 00:43:28 You're not trying to, you're not trying to go. Yeah, I try and take some kind of plea. You know, you got to take some. kind of plea. Look, if they come back and they're like, oh, 45 years, okay, well, then they've already made their mind up that they want to go to trial. So then you just have to try and not really argue that he's innocent, but argue the seriousness of the crime and make everybody look as, you know, uncredible as possible. Because some stuff, it's like, look, you're, you've got video and you can hear him talking and you can hear that, like, there's nothing
Starting point is 00:44:01 you can do about this. So you're going to have to basically spin it in a way that makes it seem like everybody was a participant, everybody was being paid, everybody was happy to be there. It's not exactly, it's not the crime that they're alleging, you know. Like, it's hard. You have to try to mitigate that role. As best you can. As best you can.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Bro, I mean, and then I'm sitting here now just thinking about it. I was thinking about when you were saying that your friends at the time put those cell phones next to you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Right, which like you said, it probably wasn't the phones, but whatever. They were wired for a fact. What if they had people around Sean Cohn's wearing wires?
Starting point is 00:44:39 Oh, yeah. If they've been doing this for a while and they've got him on something, I mean, yeah, he's, he. Yeah, I mean, if I was him, Jesus. Let me get, let me get Bernie Madoff's old room. Give me a camp, bro. How much? Get me down to, can you get me to five years? I can do 60 months. I mean, honestly, like if I, if you were, if you were, if you were.
Starting point is 00:45:00 him and you knew like they rated here because now if he's gone back in the houses he's like you know what they got oh oh yeah this shit's gone like they got the hey where's that one memory stick gone they got all this stuff like to me i would be thinking the problem with a guy like that is he doesn't do a lot of stuff by himself like he's incapable of you know most people at that level or that level are incapable of actually doing much of anything. Somebody else takes care of everything. They yell out, they bark out orders, but they don't really know how they come true.
Starting point is 00:45:37 So it's not like he can say, I'm going to have to get a fake passport. Because if he does, he's got to call. None of that's going to happen. Yeah, he's got to call three people. Next thing you know, four people know. He's being gouged. I mean, he can't move any money.
Starting point is 00:45:51 They're watching his bank account. Everything. running, because to me, I'd be thinking, run. Here's why. Do I have about a 90% chance of being found? Yeah, but guess what? I'm doing the rest of my life in prison anyway. Anyway, so let me get to this non-estradition country.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Let me start pulling cash out. Let me see how much I can get out of here. If I can get, if I can disappear and maybe get somewhere where I can get some multiple plastic surgeries into some country where they're not going to recognize me. They're going to recognize you just buy the country. Let me go to Venezuela. Let me go to Russia. Let me go somewhere where I can just buy myself protection. Right, but he could, but if he were to go somewhere, have money and basically go be a farm worker for two years, get a few plastic surgeries, grow his hair out.
Starting point is 00:46:39 He might have a chance in the jungle somewhere cutting down sugar cane. You ain't going to want to do that. He ain't going to let that life. He doesn't. He ain't going to get no blisters, bro. We're spitballing. I would say, okay, if you're going to run, you got to run to a country that's going to protect you. like when Trump was his last year in office
Starting point is 00:46:55 I'm like bro I just tell my buddy I'm like man I think Trump's gonna run I think I think they're gonna announce a trip to Russia or Ukraine or somebody's before the war and I was like and he's gonna he's gonna just dip out on his secret service detail he's gonna slip out and be in Russia because he knows what he knows what he did what happened nothing nothing nothing
Starting point is 00:47:16 I got a buddy who said the same thing they're gonna indict him soon as he's out there's gonna be I'm like he's not going to be indicted. He had all these reasons why and nothing. Nothing. I think, you know, it's like someone like Trump and Diddy is they're the same dude. He said Trump was raised in that world and Diddy worked his way into that world, but they got the same mentality.
Starting point is 00:47:35 You can't touch me. Right now, what Trump did, the only reason is the problem is because people can't stand him. Half the country can't stand him and they just don't like the way he did. But Diddy might have been involved with all sorts of stuff. Like you're talking about the Tupac thing. We already know the freak off thing. You know, God forbid, how is they moving his money? What if they get, they're looking at this stuff and they find, hey, what's up with this money?
Starting point is 00:47:59 What are these transactions? What's this? Where's this money going? Where's the taxes on that? Like, you know, who knows? Yeah, they're going to get on something. But where does he go? If he took off, where does he go?
Starting point is 00:48:10 You go to Venezuela because that country is like a failed state. Go to Argentina. Same thing. It's kind of like a failed state. But you have your own security. America's going to come get you like that. How does he? I think they would.
Starting point is 00:48:20 But how does he move his money? He doesn't. Crypto. You start moving yourself and you just, you start slowly moving your money over there. They're watching his bank. As soon as he starts moving his money, they're going to be like, shut that down. Like, I know what's happening here. I mean, you look at the jewelry, you look at all this, you start selling that stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:38 You put all that stuff in the crypto. Not that I'm a crypto guy. Not even crypto. If he just could get away, get out with a bag of jewelry, he could probably do okay in those companies. Just a watch. You got like eight art. RMs. You got a bunch of Rolexes. But who's buying them in those countries.
Starting point is 00:48:53 You have your people sell them in other countries. You bring the money back. You're still going to be people that are going to be loyal to you, right? He's moving like a kingpin. Nobody's going to be loyal to him. I take some of these watches and bring some of your money back. I ain't going to rob you all the way. You know what I go sell these watches and get $3 million.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Bring you $2 million back. I'm keeping a million for my trouble. You're very trusting. Absolutely. I'm good for it. I'm good for it. Motherfucker. Done.
Starting point is 00:49:17 That dude's done. Do you hear what they charge here with? But you might have family who rock with you. Everyone does have family, even though, I mean, I got family. I know I can trust. But, I mean, I know I got at least three humans. There's three, five humans on this planet I know. I know I can trust.
Starting point is 00:49:31 But I'm not, I wasn't moving the way Sean was moving. So you got that too. You got, you made a lot of enemies. I think that, I think that most, most drug dealers when they come, and they think they got by the way, when you talk to these, they got a bunch of, they, this dude, they can tell you how good they were to everybody. and as soon as they were locked up and their people knew
Starting point is 00:49:53 they weren't getting out they'd go in and rob them take everything they got take their woman too everything so it's like so and I think at the level he's at I think it's the same thing
Starting point is 00:50:04 especially the charges they're thinking he's done not just that he's done not only is he done he's been indicted so-and-so's been indicted so-and-so's been in on so-so's
Starting point is 00:50:12 I'm lucky I didn't get indicted I'm gonna take everything I can and I'm gonna try and leave right now and so I'm I don't know anybody that's close enough with him that he could trust has probably been indicted. I wonder if Sean Combs has Swiss accounts that's just been set up over the decades. You would think knowing the kind of stuff he's into, he would be smart enough to put some money away. Got some gold over there? Well, yeah. Yeah, but you weren't at his level either. You would think if you had got to a billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:50:46 If I've been, you know, I think you just get so cocky. you think you're untouchable. And you don't even think about putting anything away because you think I'm untouchable. Listen, what's going to have worst case scenario? They file a lawsuit and I pay them off. Bro, I'm untouchable. Damn.
Starting point is 00:50:59 I don't have to worry about that. Oh, you know how many lawsuits I paid off? How many gags? How many, man, I got this. I'm not worried. And then one day, boom, by the time it comes down, it's too late. Yeah, assets. They seize all your assets.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Now you can't move. Once you don't have any money, you thought. Even if they haven't seized anything, they'll just watch them. The bank will watch him for him. Think about it. Also, they're like, they're like, oh, well, to me, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't, I'd leave it all and just watch it. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:51:27 They just, he just moved money offshore. Nice. Like, you know, it's almost perfect. Like, we'll probably get the money back. And it's not our money anyway. We don't care. But now that's one more nail in his coffee, coffee. And when we grab them, when you say, Your Honor, no, you can't let him out on bond.
Starting point is 00:51:41 He just moved 250,000 here, 1.5 million here. They've been pulling cash out of the bank. Like, it's completely. uncharacteristic of his account activity. He's moving his stuff overseas. You let him out. We'll never see him again. I hope Puffy's not watching this.
Starting point is 00:51:58 He's going to be frustrated, bro. So if you had to make up a number of percentage, what percentage would you put on him being indicted and arrested? I mean, I'd say a 90% chance that they arrest him. I mean, they indict him, of course. They indict him. They arrest him. Me personally, I would let him back out.
Starting point is 00:52:19 on bond you know um i mean if i was i mean they're going to put up a fight but i think the judge would say he's too recognizable like the judge would probably for you surrender your passport yeah yeah we're gonna put up a couple pieces of the property the passport a couple million whatever because they're going to think this is going to be the the the um uh you know the trial the century and then will be yeah and then then of course he's got to go to trial and then that'll take so he won't go to trial for another for two years yeah And when he does go to try, and he, of course, wants to get out on Bond, obviously. Because he's older than me.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I'm 53. I think he's like 56, something like that, 55, 56. So, I mean, anything over 15 years, bro, that's life. No, because he'll get, well, it depends on what the charge is. But assuming, honestly, the way it's set up right now, he could get 20 years and be out in 12. He gets 15 years. He could be out. That's how to do a percentage.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Yeah. You have to do 85%, but the first, the, oh gosh, it's, I want to say first chance. It is first chance, right? No, first chance act. First Chance Act, yeah. First Chance Act, I'm going to say first chance. Somebody's going to correct me, but the First Chance Act was signed in law by Trump. And you, so now as long as you're programming with certain, to certain programs, you can work, you're not working off your time.
Starting point is 00:53:46 You're working off more halfway halfway half. house, but really it's time because what happens is now suddenly you're out for 20 years, now you're eligible for five years halfway house. Or let's say, so on 20 years you do, let's say you're going to do 17 years on 20. And then you get five years halfway house. So you end up doing 12 years. But when you go to halfway house, you think, oh, five years and a halfway house, no, as soon as you go to the halfway house, they put an ankle monitor on you and they send you home,
Starting point is 00:54:15 you can go work. So you just have to abide by whatever your probation officer. says, and you say, yeah, I work 40 hours a week here. I got to be able to go to the gym. I have to be able to go shop. I want to go to church. I want to be able to go, you know, so as long as you can verify what you do, and after a few years, they'll take it off you completely and say, we're just going to monitor you. So, hell, it don't sound that bad. He could do 12 years, depending on what the charge is. Like, some, like, if it's, you know, like the human trafficking, like that right now. The park thing could be 25 years of life right there.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Oh, yeah, no, no, if it's, he's never getting out, right. Well, you know, or if it's murder, the problem is I think he can still get it with murder. Like, it's only stuff like if it's like, like photos of kids, if you know what I mean. Right, right. Like those, then then you're not supposed to be eligible. Well, and you're not eligible. Well, that would be minors, right? Yeah, but these are not minors, right?
Starting point is 00:55:11 Is that it? We don't know. There might be some people who are under 18. Oh, okay. And if he took video of it, then, yeah, he'll get that charge. And that is one of the easiest charges to, all you have to do is have possession of it. Did you have possession of this video? Was it in your house?
Starting point is 00:55:24 Yes. But I never, you're guilty. You have possession of it. We found it in your house. You're done. I had to have that talk with my daughter. I have a preteen daughter, teenage daughter. And I had to tell her, I'm like, listen, we had to talk about online stuff.
Starting point is 00:55:38 And I'm like, listen, don't let anyone talk you into, hey, take a, you know, hey, want you to take your shirt off and take a picture. I'm like, you realize if you did something like that with my phone and the police came in and took my phone and found you having pictures of you with no clothes on on my phone, I go to jail. And she just looked, I'm like, listen, it's so hard to be a parent these days because you got to keep these kids, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:59 aware of what's going on so they don't get everyone else jacked up. You know, because you don't know what kids are doing. And it's like, don't do that. If anyone's asking you to do that, come tell me and you have to have a relationship with your child where they feel comfortable enough to come talk to you. Most of them just won't want to tell you.
Starting point is 00:56:14 And that's, bro, can you imagine you got a son or a daughter and they take a nude on your phone. Hey, Dad, can I use your phone for a second? Yeah, go ahead. They take a nude on your phone, send it to some girl or whatever, and it's on your phone. Give it back to you just... Listen, I'll tell you two nightmare scenarios right now, not for you, but for just your daughter. There was a bunch of girls who had a slumber party, 13, 14 years old.
Starting point is 00:56:36 They're trying on different bras and stuff. You know, they're little girls, the little training bras or whatever, taking pictures of each other, right? Because they're all little friends. and at one point, one of the girls, years later, girls get angry, send out the pictures to a bunch of people, the naked pictures to a bunch of boys. To embarrass their friend or whatever because they got mad at each other. Right. Something you and I would do, something, something a girl, something a guy, something a young child who's just a jerk off would do, right?
Starting point is 00:57:07 Yeah, stupid kid stuff. Right, stupid kid stuff. Guess what? One of the parents gets it. They get upset. They contact the local police. They say, well, it went over the internet. Hey, we know you probably hit play to escape your business banking, not think about it. But what if we told you there was a way to skip over the pressures of banking? By matching with the TD Small Business Account Manager, you can get the proactive business banking advice and support your business needs. Ready to press play? Get up to $2,700 when you open Select Small Business Banking products. Yep, that's $2,700 to turn up your business. Visit TD.com slash Small Business Match to learn
Starting point is 00:57:43 learn more. Conditions apply. That's federal. They go to the FBI. FBI, they end up going and grabbing the girl on a criminal complaint. They tell her she has to register as a sex offender. At 13? No, by that point, I think she was older. Maybe she was 17 or 18, but it does. It's a adult though, but yeah. It's distribution of. Oh my. So you got to walk on, knock on doors and say, hey, my name is Amy and I got to tell you I live in a neighborhood. Well, I think, I think, in that case, I think it's, I think the federal one, you basically, I think you just have to send out the flyers. And you have to register. That's the thing you're registering for the rest of her life. That's it. You're done. So here's the other thing. The other thing, there's a guy we used to call
Starting point is 00:58:19 Colby's heard this, Harry Potter. Because he looked like Harry Potter, bro. And he used to play ping pong all the time at Coleman, right? He got like five, seven years or five, I forget what he did in five years, whatever it was. An amazing ping pong player, by the way, which is irrelevant to what we're talking about. Still, really good. Of course, he's also playing eight hours a day. Right. That's all you doing. Like Harry Potter, yeah, like a magician. Like Forrest Gump. And he looked like Harry Potter.
Starting point is 00:58:48 So Harry Potter had dated a girl, and I'm sure I'm going to get the times wrong. He's 15, 16 years old, dated this girl. They dated for a long time, like years, right? Then suddenly he's 18 years old. I think he might have been 18 or 19. I think they were both over 18. He finds out that she slept with his best friend or a friend. never happens. He's very upset about it. But keep mind, they've been sleeping together since they're
Starting point is 00:59:16 15. They've been, you know, I'm sure it was off and on again. But he's taken videos of them having sex. She's taking videos of them having sex, right? But they were teenagers. Now he's 19. He gets upset. He starts shooting the videos out to her friends and stuff. They somebody gets the video. They call the local cops. They say this is distribution. They contact the FBI. He gets grabbed. They tell him he's got a, he's, they're going to give, they were going to give him something like probation, but you have to register. Absolutely not. He goes to trial. He loses. He ends up getting like five or 10 years. And so he spends five or six years at Coleman playing ping pong. With that charge? Think about it. With that charge, playing ping pong. Um, but here's a thing.
Starting point is 01:00:02 What did he do that you and I wouldn't have done if given that technology? Most kids would get angry and send that. And they, they did not have the criminal intent. His intent was not to distribute. He wasn't thinking that. He was just being an asshole. He was thinking revenge and all that kind of stuff. So, so that's why when I think, you know, your, your, your kids, and listen, you know, I don't want to name any names, but 15, 16, 17, 17 year olds will have sex and they will video parts of, take pictures of themselves, doing things to each other, Everything. Keep those. They're on your phone. Well, you've got your phone. Right. And they don't think of it like that. But that's what it is. And you get some jackass U.S. attorney, and he'll charge you
Starting point is 01:00:50 with it. And he won't, by the way, you go to him and you try and reason with him. He doesn't give a shit. He's being tough on crime, bro. He's going to get that. He's a sure end for that Senate seat. He sleeps like a baby having taken that horrific 18-year-old off the street who has, has some photos of his, when he was 15 and 16 years old, having his girlfriend blow him. And meanwhile, his buddy who is supplying him all the money and Cloudy needs to get into Congress is doing all sorts of unspeakable things that little kids. Some 40-something-year-old man is doing all this kind of stuff. You know what I mean? How you doing, Matt Gates? I'm just saying, there's stuff out there, right? Just stuff out there, bro.
Starting point is 01:01:31 What's at Epstein Island? Man. There's all kinds of stuff going on. Oh, man. So, Nah, bro. So the whole Sean Combs thing, bro, I'm with you on that. I think that, I mean, he's already guilty in the court of public opinion. Who? Sean Combs. Oh, okay. I already guilty.
Starting point is 01:01:48 I thought you were talking about Epstein. Oh, he got low. You saw what the first deal he got was, right? The sweetheart deal he got first? Yeah. It's absolutely undefensible. But it makes sense. He had dirt on everybody.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Don't touch dude. And, I mean, so. Did he really, did he self-delete? Did he end himself? Was that, well, how did he, I mean, you know, the pro. Where were COs, bro? The problem, you know, and everybody that says that kind of stuff, like, the problem is, having been in those institutions, I just don't know how
Starting point is 01:02:26 it's possible. I understand all the conspiracies, and I get, and it's, it's obviously, extremely suspect. And I see, and I hear you, if you did, if you, if you, if you hadn't been. in those institutions, then, you know, like, the only thing that makes sense to me is, like, somebody goes to his roommate and gets, and the roommate kills him. Like, that makes sense. But the idea that all these other things makes, look, half the cameras don't work, you know, two officers sleeping on the duty. No.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Overworked? Yeah, exactly. So, you know, those types of things, or a black bag group guys coming in to, the prison, killing him, and then leave, like, come on, stop it. There's so many camps, even the half that don't work, you're going to get caught on camera. Like, that didn't happen. So is it possible? I guess it's, I find it very unlikely.
Starting point is 01:03:19 But I love to talk about it. I mean, it sounds, I love the idea of, of, I don't know what happened, but it's very convenient. Right. It solves a lot of problems for a lot of people. These guys got so much dirt on so many people and he just disappears. And they say that all of his, his cameras and all of his footage was gone as well. No one knows where that went.
Starting point is 01:03:38 It wasn't there. But law enforcement said it wasn't here when we came to do the sweep when we came to search the home. Oh, it's not there. Then where is it? And who's on it? I mean, you got everyone,
Starting point is 01:03:48 like you got the royal family shaking in their boots. You know what I mean? You got all these, you know, big-time celebrities over here in America shaking in their boots. And all of a sudden he decides to end it all. That's it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:03:58 A guy that's selfish ain't trying to. No, no, because I, listen, like narcissists don't kill themselves. I don't. Do you know how many people I'm going to take out before I take myself out? I'm going to, I'll never, I think the idea of killing myself. I mean, I've, I'm not saying I haven't thought about it, but I just don't think I would ever go through with it.
Starting point is 01:04:20 I think it's more like a thought exercise in general. Like, it was more like, I'm faking this. How can I, you all mean? I have bouts of depression, but I've never gotten to the point where I've actually really, like, done it. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, the idea.
Starting point is 01:04:36 that this guy, like, you know, you have those moments of depression for an hour or two, and maybe you're thinking about it, but it's, I'm never, it was never going to, I don't think I'd ever do it. And that guy, plus he had, you know, like, he had a trial. He had appeals. He had, there were multiple avenues at his disposal. Right. That's what bothers me. More so than the cameras and everything else is that you would do it. You know, like, I don't get it. He still had cars to play. Right. Like, I'm waiting until everything's played out if I were to ever consider it. Yeah, he had cars to play, bro. So that whole thing is, like you said, that's suspects, you know what I mean? Yeah, I just don't have a definitive answer. That's what's horrible. And then speaking of slang,
Starting point is 01:05:19 so with all this Sean Combs thing, if I were to say, hey, man, yeah, just put it over there and put it inside, no ditty is what you got to say now. You say something that sounds, you got to say no ditty. I'm just, that's how it works, man. For something that sounds a little roaming, little suspect, hey, no ditty. Is that like the, that's what she said? That's not, no ditty? But yeah, because the kids were saying pause. They would say something to sound kind of suspect. Yeah, you're a good looking guy.
Starting point is 01:05:41 No ditty. No ditty. All right, okay. Before it was pause. See, now I'm putting you on game. You know what I'm saying? In prison when you say, no, man, Cox, you're a good looking guy. No homo.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Same thing. That's, yeah. Of that vein. So it went from, it went from no homo to pause to now was no ditty. So I liked the no ditty. I'd be using that heavy on my platform abroad. I'll say some stuff. It's like every chance I get no ditty.
Starting point is 01:06:03 One of my buddies who was like, I don't even care about this world, but he's like, oh, yeah, he said it to me. No, diddy? I'm like, bro. He was like, hey, man, I'm still out here. I know what's up. So, yeah, yeah, that whole thing with Sean Combs. What do you think?
Starting point is 01:06:18 I think he's guilty of sin, but what can you prove? That's the thing. I think he's guilty as sin. Yeah, I'm certain he did at least 85% of the stuff that they accused him. I'm certain of the freak-offs. If they did 85% do you think he's guilty? Or do you think that he's just a weirdo and he's paying people to have sex? Or is it just, you're saying what you read, it was just too over the, it's, it's, it's, everything I read, I believed.
Starting point is 01:06:43 When I read that complaint filed by that his former artist, I like everything in here, like, I believe him doing all this stuff. I've heard stories from other people in the business for years about, you know, stories about the Sean Cohn's parties about, you know, there's a, I don't know if this is true or not, this, I don't believe. But allegedly, they used to get together, Sean Cone's parties. and a bunch of guys would get together and play naked basketball, full-court basketball
Starting point is 01:07:07 like Jay-Z was there or whatever. I don't believe that. But I believe there's a weirdness going on.
Starting point is 01:07:13 And it's all to, you know, I'm the greatest. I'm the man. You can't touch me. I can do whatever I want. You know what I'm saying? If I could do whatever
Starting point is 01:07:22 I want, I wouldn't play naked basketball. Facts. I, you know, like. Not even thinking about that. Naked basketball.
Starting point is 01:07:31 I mean, there's like, if I could do everything I want, Like, I wouldn't do half the stuff that you, I've heard, but that's, you know. We're different people, though, you know what I mean? Did you, speaking of entourage, which we were talked about earlier, did you ever see the episode where Turtle and Drama have sex with the same girl?
Starting point is 01:07:51 I don't see that. And, like, so like the next day, Turtle's sitting there, like, he happens to be leaning, and like, he grudges up against drama. And drama's like, stop, what are you doing? He's so close to me. And now they're acting. weird. Weird. Calm down.
Starting point is 01:08:05 So at some point, E and, I want to say, Vince, they're like, all right, what is y'all's problem? What's going on? And they're like, nothing, nothing, nothing, don't worry, no. And so finally, Turtle says, he said, we, we had sex with, whatever the girl's name is, Terry or Kim or whatever.
Starting point is 01:08:26 You know, we had sex for it last night. He was like, both of you all? He was like, yeah, it was a threesome. He said, and at one point, our swords crossed. No, did he? And they're like, ooh. So he's like, he goes, it's an occupational hazard. It's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:08:42 He's like, but, you know, he's freaked out about it. He's like, oh, get off me, get away from me. And he's like, walk away. That's hilarious. The term swords crossed had me laughing so hard. How does that even happen? Like, what are y'all doing? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:08:56 It's swords crossed. No, he didn't. Listen, that sparked a conversation with my wife. And she's like, have you ever? I was like, no. And she's like, well, have you ever been in a situation where like you were with the girl? And there was another guy said, no, in the room. Like, you're not saying he's a part.
Starting point is 01:09:11 I said, no. And she was like, one sort minimum in this view. Yeah. I said, listen, if there was another guy even in the room watching looking, I said, then it's nothing's happening. Nothing. And she's like, never. I'm like, no. Stop it.
Starting point is 01:09:26 It's like, I'm a freaking, stop. I'm starting to feel like drama. Like, stop it. Stop it. yeah man that's that's no you answered that correctly I know man like no no baby no uh-uh nope we're gonna stop this conversation now I get my one veto a year gonna use it right here well you know what she was saying she was like she's like she's like I mean like you know you know they say like like guys after they've been locked up a long time I'm like no never it's exactly what I was
Starting point is 01:09:51 yeah I'm like I've heard that no no no no no and she's like you know because I heard like after 10 years. I said, no, no, no, no, no. Don't, don't, don't, don't. So you have to say, you can't say no Diddy. You would have to tell her no broke back, no broke back. No broke back now. No broke back. Another wrong with that for you, boys and girls were into that. I'm just saying. I'm not judging. I'm just saying no. No broke back. At no point did I say, I never noticed the curve of Jimmy's back. Yeah, that just never happened. We just went too far. Let's go ahead. I'm starting to get nervous, man. I don't know if I'm, I don't know if I'm liking this, man. This is going too far. I think Diddy's going to bouts out the closet.
Starting point is 01:10:25 anytime now. What was that you were saying about me? No, did he? So, yeah, man. This was amazing, bro. Hour 40. Are you serious? This one?
Starting point is 01:10:37 Yeah. So it would probably be a three hours and then an hour and 20. So you got enough of your two? Cool. Yeah. Let's wrap this up. Yeah, man. Let's wrap this up, man.
Starting point is 01:10:47 We're wrapping it, wrap it up? Yeah, and I would, I'll use this outro for both episodes. Okay. You want to link to your YouTube channel? Yeah, I do that. You know, D.L. Saint, I really want to know podcasts. Yeah, I just put that in there. I'll say that.
Starting point is 01:11:02 And, yeah, Instagram's the same thing I really want to know. Podcast on Instagram. Yeah. Matt's a little outro and we'll fill those links in the description. This was fun, man. You know, you ever need me to come back, let me know, man. Have you got any questions about aviation or anything like that? You're going to hear some more stories about aviation, by the way.
Starting point is 01:11:22 What, on, on, about Boeing stuff? Well, not just Boeing, just in general. Just air traffic control. Air traffic controllers are retiring, like, left and right. And there's nobody's filling their place? No, no. And it's the government's fault. It's a long story.
Starting point is 01:11:35 That's another hour and a half of we would get into it. But basically, the FAA was accustomed to controllers staying until you kicked them out. Like, we can't work until age 56. Mm-hmm. And everyone worked until age 56. That was that generation. They just kept working, kept working. And our generation came along.
Starting point is 01:11:50 I'm like, hold on, hold on. You're going to pay me. not to come to work, all right, I'm out, 50, age 50. And you got other people like, how's it going? It's great, water's fine. They're out. Then you got young kids who are the millennials who are working and made $200,000. They put it all away because they live with mom and dad, $400,000, right, overtime and all that.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Resign. I'm about to travel the world. I'm out. They quit. You know, they can go travel the world and get a job with a foreign ATC entity or work for a private company, if they run out of money, they can go back and do that. And so the FAA is looking at a staffing problem that they've never had to deal with ever. And in the government, the best don't go to the top, right? You know it rises to the top. So you have people who don't know
Starting point is 01:12:36 how to manage dealing with a crisis that the agency has never seen before. And of course, they haven't made it better. Right. Yeah, I was going to say, like, in the BOP, like the people that are a problem, what they do to get rid of them is they give them, because they can't fire them, and they can't even make them take a lateral position. The only way to get them rid of them in the institution is to say, hey, we can make you a case manage. Right now, you're a counselor. We can make you a, we're going to make you a case manager, but you have to go to this institution. Promote you out of here. They get rid. And so what happens is they just keep rising and right. So the more incompetent you are, the quicker you move up the chain.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Same thing happened. The FAA's problem began in the 80s when the union was called Paco back then. They went on strike. You probably remember this when you were younger. the air traffic controllers went on strike. Ronald Reagan fired everybody. And they never fixed that. So, you know, I work with guys who got fired by Ronald Reagan, hired by Bill Clinton, into the same facility they got fired out of
Starting point is 01:13:32 with the guy who replaced them. So I had worked with a dude, Vietnam vet guy. He was like, yeah, we had another guy who crossed the picket line. So every single day, like first two years of 1990, he come in, where's the scab at? Hey, scab. You want people like, oh, that's so toxic. Well, that word didn't exist back then.
Starting point is 01:13:49 You know what I mean? It was still men were still men. So it was just like, hey, scab, and then the guy was like, well, you know, you see my new Mercedes outside. Thanks, buddy. You know what I mean? Thanks for not crossing the line, buddy. So these two were going at it every single day.
Starting point is 01:14:03 You know what I mean? I can't stand you're scab, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, bro, you just got hired back. You better get fired again, man. You might even catch the case. But they never really buried to hassle, but they hated each other, man. They couldn't work together. Like, we had to keep these dudes separate.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Man, it was crazy, bro. So they never, the FAA never fixed. They never solved for that problem. That huge gap was like a generational gap in air traffic controllers. They never hired enough to get them back. So now they're hiring like crazy and they're trying to get people through, but it's tough. And you've got kids who aren't as smart. So, you know, they hire 100 controllers.
Starting point is 01:14:36 I don't know, maybe 50 of them get through, 40 of them get through, you know, and they can't, you know, they got to wait. Next year we'll hire some more. It's hiring 150. Right, right. Yeah, yeah. Because training is expensive. That's the most expensive part.
Starting point is 01:14:48 And time consuming. It could take seven years to make an air traffic controller. That's after they get through the basic training stuff and get to the facility. It could depend on where you're working. It could take three years.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Lightning speed at some of these facilities is three years of training with an experienced air traffic controller. So if I went somewhere like Miami with my experience from Van Nuys, it might take me a year just not even. It probably take me six,
Starting point is 01:15:09 seven months to get through their training program to work to Tower. But the average controller coming up probably take them two years to do the same thing. You know what I mean? then you get to the bigger, more complex facilities, you know, and experience control can go in there and take them three years to get through that
Starting point is 01:15:22 procedure through that training program. And everywhere you go, you got to train again. So every, it's like every facility is like its own separate thing. So you have to pass their training facility, their training program. And you get people like, I don't like it here. I don't like Miami. I'm almost done training. You know what?
Starting point is 01:15:39 I'm going to pull myself out of training. I don't like it here, which means they can go back to where they came or go to a different facility in another part of the country. Did they like start the training process over again? The FAA doesn't know what to do. Like, what do we do here? We don't, you know, like, you get people who are happy in the small facilities making $100,000 chilling in some small polonk town somewhere.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Hey, we want you to go to Chicago or here, work your ass off for maybe 5% more money, 10% more money, no time off, only what you're guaranteed by the contract and a headache every single day. You want to take that offer? No, I'm going to stay right here when I'm doing what I want to do when I want to do it. Get my time off, have fun, coach my kids, little league team. The FAA's got a problem. So you're really going to see this in the news more and more
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