Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Predestined To Rule The World | Frank Amodeo Origin Story

Episode Date: September 8, 2023

Predestined To Rule The World | Frank Amodeo Origin Story ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And he said, so I stepped several feet away from the tracks and turned around just as a train roost right by him. And by this point, he said he already felt that God was telling him he had a higher purpose. He starts telling people that God has told him he's going to be emperor of the world. Everybody knew it at school. People are calling him the emperor, as they did, by the way, in prison. Capital Genesis is Frank's economic plan for world domination, how he's going to start a massive company and start gobbling up other companies in order to slowly take over countries and continents and ultimately the world. And she says, this is who's doing your legal work.
Starting point is 00:00:54 And I went, yeah, this is who's doing my legal work. And she said, you've got a mentally incompetent inmate. disbarred attorney doing your legal work and I went yeah she said that's the craziest thing I've ever heard I said well it does seem crazy I said but you're here aren't you I said all of the sane attorneys that I talked to on the street told me I could not force the government to reduce my sentence and yet you're here so he may be crazy but he's getting results Hey, this is Matt Cox, and I'm going to be continuing the Frank Amadeo story. This is the genesis of Frank Amadeo's belief that he, I hate to say, I hate to say, delusion.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Because you don't know. You don't know what's going to happen. The genesis of Frank Amadeo's belief that he is going to be. emperor of the world. So Frank Amadeo was raised by, I love that raised by his mother and father. Okay. No shit. Okay. So Frank Amadeo was raised by his parents. They were devout Roman Catholics. He was born with a rare abnormality and some kind of a, there was something wrong with his, I want to say his digestive track or something. When he got to be, I forget how old, you know, whatever, old enough to be operated on, he was operated on by the doctors. And they had told his parents that there was a good chance that he would not survive.
Starting point is 00:02:43 And he said that his parents sat in the hospital visitation, you know, waiting room. They prayed to God that he would survive the surgery, which the doctor said there was a very good chance. He probably wouldn't. he did survive the surgery obviously um he improved uh it corrected whatever the abnormality was in his digestive tracker or it was something to do with this i forget exactly um what it was like i don't have that memorized and in matter of fact frank when he told me he didn't remember the exact name of the condition he was just a child but as he got he got older several things happened that in his mind
Starting point is 00:03:26 allowed were issues that it occurred where he should have been he should have died one was that surgery and he believes it was divine intervention that saved him
Starting point is 00:03:44 from dying on the operating table the next one is he as a child like two three years old wandered away from his daycare. And he ended up wandering into the street and walked down the street. And it just so happened that a good Samaritan saw him in the middle of a street and ran out and picked him up and actually knew where his parents were and dropped him off hours later. So he wanders away. Keep mind, this isn't like now.
Starting point is 00:04:23 like there weren't amber alerts and those types of things like this is back in the in the 50s right so he was how much older than me well early 60s in the early 60s there's no cell phones there's probably half the country didn't even have a landline so he wanders away from his daycare maybe they called the police maybe they didn't i don't know what i do know is he said a couple hours later a man showed up with him as a two or three year old and dropped him off at his parents house like they knew who he was picked him up waited for his family to come home and then showed up and said hey by the way we found your kid walking around in the middle of the street dropped him off the next thing that happened was he i think he said he was uh five or six years old and he was walking on the railroad tracks balance kind of doing a little balancing act while he's just walking on the tracks right as a little kid and he said he didn't he didn't he hear anything he didn't there was no warning he said i didn't hear a whistle i didn't hear a train anything but he said a voice and and i i had asked him when i was writing the book like was this the
Starting point is 00:05:34 first time you heard this voice you know and he said he couldn't remember the exact first time it was a feeling initially but he said literally i this was the first time he really felt like he heard a voice say get off of the tracks and he said so i stepped several feet away from the tracks and turned around just as a train whooshed right by him. He said, I'd never heard it. I didn't feel it. I didn't anything. He just something said, get off the tracks.
Starting point is 00:06:03 And he said, I took two, three steps away, turned around, and it literally just whished right by him. He said, I should have been killed. When he was nine years old, Frank had an aunt. Right? So his, I want to say, whatever, his mother or father's sister. he was his favorite aunt she used to take him with him with her all over the place she came to him and said he's nine years old frank i'm going to the mall whatever a shopping excursion
Starting point is 00:06:36 of some kind um will you do you want to come with me and because he wanted to stay and watch some tv program right like he he loves um he loves star trek by the way so he i don't know what the program is. I don't recall. I probably wrote it in the book. But anyway, so he said, no, he really wanted to watch this program. So he stayed and didn't go. His aunt never came home. Her body was found, I want to say a couple days later, in a dumpster behind the store, one of the stores they were going to go to. She'd been strangled to death. Turned out, he later found out When he got older and heard what had happened to her, because he's only nine at the time.
Starting point is 00:07:27 She was engaged to be married, and just before she was to be married within whatever weeks, her husband's best friend strangled her to death and threw her body into a dumpster. It turns out that I believe that her, sorry, her husband, her fiancé, her fiancé, her fianc, her fiance's best friend strangled her and threw her into the dumpster. I believe what he had said was that his belief was that the, the, the fiance's best friend was kind of like a, he had a fixation on the, on her fiancee and felt she was a rival, whether it was a,
Starting point is 00:08:22 a homosexual situation or situation, I don't know, but he felt she was a rival and that she was going to come in between he and his relationship with her fiancé, and he strangled her to death and killed her. Now, according to Frank, Frank says, had he been with her, he believes he would have been killed too. So, you know, with that said, those are, I think, what, four different occasions where Frank feels that God intervened on his behalf.
Starting point is 00:08:57 And by this point, he said he already felt that God was telling him he had a higher purpose. Now, I think everybody kind of believes that they're special, you know, and that they have a special purpose in life, maybe. But it really began to manifest in Amadeo. And his interests in high school or middle school were like, we're talking about like astrophysics to Star Trek, which he said he was a huge, he was a Trekkie. And he went to school. By the time I think he was 16, he was on the radio. He was the president of the young Republicans in Orlando.
Starting point is 00:09:46 And so, by the way, most of his story takes place in Orlando, which is perfectly fitting because it's where Disney World is. You've got Disney World, you've got Ebbott, you've got all these theme parks, you've got Mickey Mouse, and it's just the insanity of Orlando. It just makes, to me, seems perfectly fitting for this whole story to play out. So Frank's in Orlando, and while in Orlando, he goes to school, he does a talk radio show. about politics he's 16 he was helping to run the local the local organization for the well obviously i said the young republicans but for the republican uh committee in that area for ronald regan's campaign and this you know for a 16 year old like that's just insanity and so anyway he so his big thing was at this point he starts to
Starting point is 00:10:46 telling people he's that God has told him he's going to be emperor of the world and when I talked him about that was like okay like Frank that's like you're telling people this he goes oh yeah you know he said everybody knew everybody knew it at school people are calling him the emperor you know as they did by the way in prison you know I talked about prison in the last video and how he had built kind of a legal firm inside a prison and people mocked when he first got there but after about two years people had 100% respect for him he's he would walk down he we're talking about these are inmates these are guys locked up for 20 30 years these are guys that are gang members these are
Starting point is 00:11:30 murderers um these are big time drug dealers cartel members and he's what he would walk down the sidewalk with his little legal work and one or two of his guys behind him and people are walking by and they're like emperor and he he'd do this he did he did this little thing with his hand like they go emperor how you know he go or they say frank a lot of times is frank or emperor they go uh frank he hey how are you how are you how are you how are you had this little thing it's not really like a high how hitler thing it was just like a little time of a little thing with his hand he no how are you they emperor and uh and so it was it was hilarious but so i can see that same type of thing happening in high school because he
Starting point is 00:12:14 said a lot of this is during segregation in the 60s right by this point it's in the 60s late 60s early 70s and and there's there's kind of desegregation is desegregation is happening there's blacks and whites in school there are problems he's negotiating disputes among among the the student body he's he's very well very respected so he was so well respected that I think he was so it's in like his junior year or something of high school or senior year they had
Starting point is 00:12:53 they actually had an emperor day where where he said like he said I pulled he was like I pulled up in a vehicle got out and he said that the ROTC squad was lined and he walked in and gave like the
Starting point is 00:13:08 gave like a speech before the before the football the big football game and he gave like the the speech and uh and there was a huge so this is in the arena with all these people screaming and hollering and he gives a little rah rah rah speech and the all the all the um football players swarm onto the field like i mean it's just it's just insanity uh and you know and seeing the pictures of of him and hearing the stories and knowing everything knowing frank being incarcerated with him like you can totally see this
Starting point is 00:13:44 so anyway he does that he graduates high school graduates college then he goes to law school graduates law school as he's he's simultaneously going to law school and trying to get a master's degree and his thesis this is what's great the thesis is called capital genesis so he's writing his thesis and it's called capital genesis and capital genesis and capital genesis And capital genesis is Frank's economic plan for world domination. How he's going to start a massive company and start gobbling up other companies in order to slowly take over countries and countries and continents and ultimately the world. So I remember talking to him about this when he started explaining how capital genesis works. And when I was talking to it, I was like, well, Frank, I don't like, you're saying like this company does this and then this and they consolidate and it really honestly, it sounds like a, it's almost like a form of fascism, like a form of, you know, saying it's, I don't mean that, you know, fascism, by definition isn't necessarily a bad thing. Like it, it is, but it isn't. But so it's basically, it's kind of like one one company and all the,
Starting point is 00:15:13 companies work for that company so it's like everybody works for and is singular in in their belief and it's just to generate money and grow um so his his explanation of how the company worked i i remember telling him at one point i said this is this is when i was writing the story i said you know frank i mean some companies aren't going to be willing to be bought out or taken over some countries when you become so powerful they will resist like what do you do when you become your company becomes so big it becomes a monopoly well what happens typically what happens is the government comes in and says look your company's too big it's too powerful you have a monopoly and they force you to break apart that company for the good of the country that's how it works
Starting point is 00:16:09 in the united states not how it works everywhere but and i told him i said in some countries he said He said, oh, no, no. He said, some countries will resist. And I said, okay, I said, well, what happens if they resist? He said, well, he said, people will die. People will die. And I remember thinking, what does that mean? He said, well, I said, obviously, there will have to be a military wing, a private military involved,
Starting point is 00:16:39 and some countries will resist. And at that point, there may need to be military action. But I don't expect that it will come to that. Now, that's odd when you hear the rest of the story. You'll start to realize that that doesn't really, isn't necessarily the way he was going. Anyway, so he's growing. He's growing. He goes to college.
Starting point is 00:17:04 He gets his law degree. So Frank graduated and he entered Emory University School. of law eventually he's he graduates the graduates the law school however during the toward the end of law school he saw a on there was a
Starting point is 00:17:31 there were flyers that were going around and there was a billboard and somebody had made some flyers or something they're passing it out and he finds out he finds out that the CIA is interviewing people to come work for the CIA. So he goes and he interviews for the CIA. He takes some tests. He said it was like an all-day thing. Like you had to take a bunch of tests.
Starting point is 00:17:56 You had to take a physical test. And he said, so I took them all. And he said, I didn't think much of it. And then a few days or weeks later, he ended up getting. I don't go into this in the book. This is something he kind of told me on the side was that he ended up getting a phone call from a roommate or something
Starting point is 00:18:21 that said that a bunch of and asking him if he was in trouble. And Frank was like, no, I'm not in trouble. What do you talk? Like I think that his roommate called his girlfriend's house. You keep in line, there's no cell phone. So you're making calls trying to find somebody. Calls him and says, hey, are you in trouble?
Starting point is 00:18:39 And he's like, no, why? And they said, because these. government guys had stopped by their dorm room or apartment or whatever it was and said, look, there's a bunch of government agents that are here flashing badges and they're looking for you. So it really what it was was the CIA had sent guys out there. And eventually so he ends up going and they find him or he goes to them and says, hey, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:19:00 And they say, look, we want you to come back in and take some more tests. He goes back in and he takes some more tests. And he said a few weeks later, they show up and they say, look, we want. you to come work for their i forget it was like the the the strategic administration whatever wing of the cia and he and it would have been he said basically said the guy was like it would basically be like special ops like you would be in the field helping run special operations or possibly be an agent like an undercover agent kind of thing or spy or whatever you want to call them you know in the field what's
Starting point is 00:19:41 interesting about this is that I actually, while writing the book, I actually interviewed a guy named Andrew Bustamante, which is actually huge now. I interviewed him, and then I got Danny with Concrete to actually get him on there. So Bustamonte, he's been on Concrete, a bunch of, he's been on a ton, he's been on, he was on Lex Freeman. Like, he went, like, I convinced Dan, he didn't even want to have him on. Anyway, the point is, is that Bustamante, which is a former CIA, agent read the whole book and was like, oh, absolutely. He said that the CIA is huge, used to be huge, in recruiting from law schools. So Frank says he was supposed to go to become B.S.C.I.
Starting point is 00:20:29 And he totally planned on doing the CIA thing. Like he'd signed up. He'd signed the papers. He's ready to go. He just had to graduate law school. And just as he was graduating law school, Frank's father. came down with throat cancer. And so Frank had to tell the CIA he couldn't do, he couldn't go because he needed to come home and move back in with his family so that he could work and help support his father who was going through multiple treatments for throat cancer. And so as a result, he did not become a CIA agent. Buried by the U.S. government and ignored by the national media.
Starting point is 00:21:10 this is the story they don't want you to know. When Frank Amadeo met with President George W. Bush at the White House to discuss NATO operations in Afghanistan, no one knew that he'd already embezzled nearly $200 million from the federal government, money he intended to use to bankroll his plan to take over the world. From Amadeo's global headquarters in the shadow of Florida's Disney World, with a nearly inexhaustible supply of the Internal Revenue Services funds, Amadeo acquired multiple businesses, amassing a mega conglomerate.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Driven by his delusions of world conquest, he negotiated the purchase of a squadron of American fighter jets and the controlling interest in a former Soviet ICBM factory. He began working to build the largest private militia on the planet, over one million African strong. Simultaneously, Amadeo hired an international black ops force to orchestrate a coup in the Congo, While plotting to take over several small Eastern European countries, the most disturbing part of it all is, had the U.S. government not thwarted his plans, he might have just pulled it off.
Starting point is 00:22:21 It's insanity, the bizarre, true story of a bipolar megalomaniac's insane plan for total world domination. Available now on Amazon and audible. So Frank lives with his father and works for a while. and and you know ultimately it takes a while but ultimately his you know this goes on for a few years you know with Frank's father you know there's actually a lawsuit where um they end up suing the they end up suing the tobacco company and he gets a huge settlement and all kinds of stuff happens well i mean according to Frank actually if you look it up there's there's actual there's
Starting point is 00:23:04 actually articles about Frank's dad in this lawsuit. Let's jump back real quick with me being in prison, right? And I'm writing the story. And Frank's still fighting my case. So if Frank's fighting my case, I've got 26 years, he's doing my law work. Like this is how, like I said, this is in the earlier video, this is how I met him, was he started fighting my case. Well, at this point, I'm in prison with Frank and he's fighting my case. Um, we had filed a motion, he, he, uh, we, he, Frank had filed a motion in the court.
Starting point is 00:23:41 I'd given him all my stuff. He filed a motion in the court, uh, essentially telling, saying to the government or saying to the, the court, Mr. Cox has a 26 year sentence, but he was asked by the government to, to be interviewed by Dateline. He was asked to be interviewed by American greed. He was asked to be interviewed, uh, or to write an ethics. fraud course and that every time the government asked him to do something which he was told if he did this it would affect his sentence it would reduce his sentence even though the government
Starting point is 00:24:20 did not abide by that reduction or by what by their promises mr. Cox was told it would and therefore mr. Cox's belief and based on the government's request it reset the time bar so inmates have one year to file what's called a 2255 right like a habeas motion a motion saying i want to be set free or i want to correct my sentence or my lawyer is ineffective whatever the case may be there's an issue with my sentencing i need to correct it you have one year well it's been way over a year for me and so the government So what happens is it's hard to get past that. Typically, the government, all they have to say is, you know what?
Starting point is 00:25:11 The defendant is correct. We should have done this. This should have happened. All of these things sort of affected him. But you know what, Your Honor? He's time barred. He can't bring any of these things up. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:25:21 It's over. It doesn't matter if they get new DNA. If they find out you're innocent, somebody else says, I did it. I committed the crime. It doesn't matter. He's time barred. There's nothing he can do. So you have to get over that time bar.
Starting point is 00:25:33 to convince the judge in your case to say, now, you know what, I'm going to let him get past the time bar. So we go back, Frank goes back with a motion saying, look, every time they asked Mr. Cox to do something that was going to affect his sentence and he did it, it resets the time bar. And he's been asked over and over again. So there's three different instances here that affected the time bar.
Starting point is 00:25:55 So he has within one year of the last instant. And it had just been a year since my last time. So he files that motion. The government comes back and the government says, Your Honor, he's time barred. And Frank then argued again, put in a motion, a retort to the government's motion. And we end up going back and forth.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And these things take months and months. But ultimately what happened was the government came forward and said, listen, we would like to stop the proceedings. And we'd like to give Mr. Cox, have the court give Mr. Cox an attorney to discuss the possibility of us reducing his sentence, putting in what's called a Rule 35 motion on his behalf. So I remember when I got that, that letter. Like, I read it and I was like, I didn't even understand what it meant. Like, I was reading it like, are they saying they're going to reduce my sentence? But what they were really saying was, like, we'll consider possibly thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:27:05 But they can't talk to me. The government can't write me a letter. So what the government can do is they can tell the judge, and the judge can then give me a lawyer. And so what was really happening was they had just assigned me a lawyer to discuss the possibility of filing something on my behalf. Well, what happens is that lawyer's name was Esther. Esther Panich. and she flies down from Atlanta and she meets with me in the
Starting point is 00:27:32 it's in the visitation room but it's the lawyer you know lawyer inmate the lawyer room whatever you meet with this in this little room small little conference room so I remember she came down and she sat down and I said hey so what's going on
Starting point is 00:27:49 she's like I'm your lawyer the judge assigned me and the government is willing to reduce your sentence and I said yeah that's but by how much and she said one level one level was 30 months so i went so i got 26 years and the government is willing to take to drop it to not even 23 because it was 26 years and four months so it was really 24 so i would go from 26 to 24 years i'd have roughly 24 years and i was like now i'd already talked to to frank amadeo about this and i went no
Starting point is 00:28:26 No, no. I said, Frank said to tell you I wouldn't accept less than four levels. And she said, who's Frank? And I go, well, Frank's the guy that did my legal work. She's, oh, you didn't do it? I said, no, no, no. She said, well, it's very well written. I just don't think you have a chance. So he obviously knows how it's well written.
Starting point is 00:28:48 She says, it's just not going to work. And I said, yeah, I understand. You're saying it's not going to work. But I said, I don't think that's true. she says well trust me i've been doing this for a long time and i know it's not going to work i go so she said and i said you know well you're saying it's not going to work and the government thinks it's not going to work she says exactly i said then why are you here like if the government could beat me so easily and it was a slam dunk on their part why did they get the judge to
Starting point is 00:29:17 to give me a lawyer and have you and pay to fly you down here to talk with me if they could beat me so easily and she went well you know i don't i don't know that's that is strange and i said so i said okay so listen frank said this i told her what frank said frank said that um i would take four levels and i said so if they're not willing to give me four levels then we need to move for an evidentiary hearing which means you schedule a hearing where you get to present evidence. And she went, okay, well, what kind of evidence would you present? I said, I want to bring all the FBI agents in, all the Secret Service agents in.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I want to bring in my U.S. attorney. I want to bring in and I want to, I want to see all my discovery. Now, I have a room full of discovery that was never processed because I pled guilty. So I said, I want to see all of it. I want it processed, turned into an, and I. I want it converted and I want it shipped here at the government's expense. You know, that would be thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars. And she goes, what do you want to do?
Starting point is 00:30:34 Turn this into a circus center. That's exactly what I want to do. So we can bring all these people in front of the court. We can drag this thing out for a couple of days and we can see all that evidence or they can give me four levels. She goes, let me think. She says, okay, let me go back to the government. So she goes back. Well, first of what happens is she goes, whose strategy is this?
Starting point is 00:30:53 And I go, this is Frank strategy. And she goes, well, who is Frank? And I go, Frank is a disbarred attorney with mental problems who is actually been deemed incompetent by the state of Florida. He actually has like a caretaker in the state of Florida. And I said, and he's an inmate here. And he got 22 years for trying to take over the world. And she goes, are you serious? And I said, yeah, his name's Frank Amadeo.
Starting point is 00:31:19 And he's mentally incompetent. And she goes, this is who's doing your legal work. And I went, yeah, this is who's doing my legal work. And I went, and she said, you've got a mentally incompetent inmate, disbarred attorney doing your legal work. And I went, yeah. She said, that's the craziest thing I've ever heard. I said, well, it does seem crazy. I said, but you're here, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:31:42 I said, all of the sane attorneys that I talked to on the street told me I could not force the government to reduce my sentence. And yet, you're here. so he may be crazy but he's getting results and you're saying 30 months and he's you're saying one level he's saying four so let's see if we can get four so she goes back to the government goes back to Atlanta goes to the um u.s attorney Gail McKenzie and says Gail he said four levels so we start negotiating back and forth back and forth I say I want a copy of this i want a copy of that i want my discovery i want that so we're going back and forth back and forth and finally first they come back and they go okay two levels we'll give you two
Starting point is 00:32:33 levels and i say no i want to go back to it so we go back and forth and she ends up saying they they won't go more than like two levels And I said, okay, well, then I'm, I need to, got to go back to court. So, well, what she said was, she said, here's what, what they're willing to do. They're willing to give you one level and bring you back to court. Because it was like, they were going to give me like two levels and I didn't get to go back to court. They just put it in. Two levels was like 50 months or 50, no, not even 50 months.
Starting point is 00:33:16 What am I talking about? Yeah, two levels was like 52 or 53 months, something like that. So I said, no, no, no, no. and they said, or they put in one level and they'll bring you back to court and we can argue in front of the judge. I said, okay, let's do that.
Starting point is 00:33:31 So I asked Frank about it, and Frank said, yeah, go back in front of the judge. So they put me on a bus. They shipped me all the way back to Atlanta. I get in front of the judge. The FBI agent comes in. She testifies for me.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Jim Montram, the guy I wrote that course with, he testifies for me. My old attorney My old attorney Millie testifies for me and the judge looks at everything and he says Okay
Starting point is 00:34:04 This was so funny too Because I remember the judge goes He looked at the He looked at the government Well no he looked at me No he looked at the government and he goes The government is asking for a 30 month reduction He says
Starting point is 00:34:21 That's not nearly enough for what Mr. Cox has done. And I thought that's, wow, okay, great. We had asked for like, God, like a ridiculous reduction. We asked for like, I forget what it was. Like seven levels off,
Starting point is 00:34:35 which is basically like I would have walked out of prison practically. He said, Mr. Cox is asking for a seven level reduction, which essentially was like 15 or 16 years off. He was, which is 15 years off. He said, Mr. Cox, he says, That was never going to happen.
Starting point is 00:34:53 And I was like, wow. I was like, ooh. And he said, so what I've decided is I'm going to give you three months off. That's seven years off your sentence. He said, for someone who has a case that has no arrests associated with it, nobody was indicted or arrested based on the information that you gave. He said, for you to get seven years off, he said, for no, he said for cooperation. which only really was media and writing a course he said i think that's basically said i think that's a deal it said something along those lines and he rambled it off really quick he said
Starting point is 00:35:34 that's my decision and boom he hit the gavel and that was it it was over i got seven years off i remember leaving when i was leaving the courthouse um i remember thinking i was so depressed so depressed because i really thought i was going to get i don't know i thought i was really i thought i was going to get 10 12 years i forget what it was but i i really kind of felt like he might give me the whole huge amount that we were asking really i was delusional so he uh uh so anyway i remember leaving they had held that the there was renovations being done and they'd actually held that whole thing in a small town close to Atlanta at a federal at a courthouse close to there and so when they led me out it wasn't in
Starting point is 00:36:29 this massive building in doubt which is in downtown the federal building in downtown Atlanta it was in a smaller one so you actually get let out by the marshals into the van where it's not like a huge van it's just me and I'm like shackled and I'm being walking out my my legs are shackled and I'm walking out and I literally was so funny too because you want to talk about hilarious like they had to stop people on the street people are like there's like 20 people standing here and people standing here as they walk me out with shotguns you don't need a shotgun bro you could have simply you could have walked me out without anything i'm not going anywhere and they walk me out and as i'm walking out i remember looking across the street and seeing
Starting point is 00:37:09 milly my original lawyer who just testified and i remember her looking at me and just kind of like she's sitting in her car right so i'm in right there like her car's like just across the street it's maybe 50 feet away, 40 feet away. And I look at her and we look right in each other's eyes. And she gave me this look like, like she's so sorry, like she's sorry it wasn't more. And I looked at her and I went, eh, like that. And she just, and I got the same. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:37:39 So I was depressed. I remember on my way driving back to, they were holding me in the Atlanta prison, right? So they have a hold over there So I'm on the way back I remember being depressed But by the time I actually got back I thought You know like
Starting point is 00:38:00 You've already done like six years in prison At this rate With a sentence reduction With good time With maybe a year off for the drug program I thought You could be out of here in seven or eight years And I thought
Starting point is 00:38:16 You know you just did six years You can do seven you didn't think you could do six you've done six it's not so bad and I thought no no at that point I think I'd done seven seven years so I was like you just did seven years you can do seven or eight more years
Starting point is 00:38:34 and I was like yeah yeah that's not bad that's not bad so I get back they put me on a bus a week later ship me back to Coleman I go to Frank and when I went to Frank
Starting point is 00:38:52 he had already heard he already knew how much time I got off I go to Frank and I walk up to him that night because you know you get in they process you you go to count count they count everybody at four o'clock so you stand in front of me I'm walking and I'm in my bus close
Starting point is 00:39:07 like it's just like you're starting over I'm in my butt they walk around they count then you go to dinner so right after dinner I go and I walk up to Frank and I go hey Frank and he goes hey Matt I heard I heard and he just looked at me and I went yeah I said you know there's seven years off and he was yep and I went it's not that I'm not appreciative I said I just you know I was hoping it was more
Starting point is 00:39:34 he said I know I was hoping it was more too and he looked at me and he said it looks like we're going to have to eat this elephant one spoonful at a time he has something will come up keep your eyes he just keep your eyes open and your ears open and something will happen he said this isn't it for you something else is going to happen we'll get some more time off and i was just like like i you know once again i thought this guy's crazy like that's that's not going to happen that's not going to happen next time we're going to get into frank when frank um starts basically uh starts working starts putting together his his
Starting point is 00:40:17 mega company he becomes a venture capitalist does a bunch of stuff super interesting video and we're going to get into all that in the next video really interesting I appreciate you guys watching and letting me kind of go through the
Starting point is 00:40:34 intricacy of the things that happened with Frank and I when we were when I was we were incarcerated together I think that's an important part of the story because it lets you really kind of know the person that he is and how much he did for me i appreciate this appreciate you guys watching absolutely check out the next video and thank you very much for watching if you if you liked the the video you're you would love the book i'm going to pitch the book real quick here is the
Starting point is 00:41:01 book it's it's insanity it's also on audible it's on um it's on amazon check it out the links are in the description thank you see you

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