Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Raised in the World’s Toughest Prisons | VikingMindset11

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:15 You have to go insane to remain sane. They'd see me and be like, hey, he's a crazy dude. You know. What are you going to do? Get abused for the next years and then go live with that shame of what happened to you? This is home. You have to accept. This is reality. And this is where things take a turn.
Starting point is 00:00:29 things take a turn for the worst when i was about seven or eight is when i started to realize like oh wait i don't have that normal family that brady bunch family that i thought i did and i was loved and cared for and it wasn't like we were poor but seeing your mom overdose at seven or eight and then go to school the next day and and then try to see the kid it's like hard to understand how like how can i relate to any of these kids yeah they're not telling stories about they're not telling stories about their parents getting into fights or overdosing or Yeah. Right. As I got into high school is when I really started to get into crime. And I was doing good in the beginning. You know, I was wrestling. I had a 3.7 GPA. But I was so embarrassed to bring
Starting point is 00:01:12 those kids to my home because they had the Betty Crocker mom. They had, or what it seemed like, and I had the chaos in my house. And I had all this rage and anger that I never understood. And friends that were older in my neighborhood or cousins of mine, instead of saying, hey, man, You know, you're doing good and try to push me to righteous. And you're like, hey, you want to learn how to make some money, bro. Screw that. Screw that. Screw that.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Yeah. Okay. Absolutely. Like, they're like, fuck that shit, man. Just come on with us. So they taught me basically how to start robbing drug dealers, stealing saves. And how old are you? I was 15 at the time when I first hit my big kid, though, right?
Starting point is 00:01:49 I mean, you're like, to tell you the truth, I was tall, but I was a skinny little, like, I was like, I was thin, yeah. Okay. And, but I was fearless. And I had, at that time, I didn't understand, you know, the psychologist. behind it of why I had so much rage and anger and why I was doing this. And it wasn't so much that I needed the money. It just felt like finally I'm with people that are broken like me. You know, looking back after all the years, I kind of understood that. But at that time, I was a wild kid. And so they're about 20, 25. And I grew up with two sisters. And they were like, basically like,
Starting point is 00:02:22 you don't have any brothers, were your brothers. And they would make me fight every day, fight other kids like fight for money bare knuckle stuff yeah like like crazy you should go to these trailer park neighborhoods and fight and like like you know now looking back i was basically being used and manipulated at a young age and bring you know and like it wasn't a gang but like these dudes were heavy into you know what they were doing as far as like fraud like steal a computer get all the information we'll pay you this much do this do that do this and i kind of like started to be like wow you know i'm feeling accepted here so i fully got out of school said screw this you know I found my tribe I'm good now how old were you when you dropped out 16
Starting point is 00:03:02 basically 15 16 is like that that that was a pivotal change in my life was 15 to 16 is when I was like I was doing so good in school wrestling and this and that but I was so embarrassed with everything at home so I gravitated towards people that were more like me in their home right And one of my closest friends, he passed away, his name's Chance, you know, Chance Wilson, like my brother. And the way we met at 15 years old was, I don't know if you guys remember American Online or whatever, AOL. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So everyone used to be on the chats or whatever, and like high school, middle school. And he's like, hey, how old are you?
Starting point is 00:03:42 I mean, now I'm 37. Okay. I was going to say, you look like you're in your, yeah, late 20. No, you could be, you could be whatever. Yeah, you could be in your 30 or stay raised. So I guess he preserved you a little bit. I was going to say, you're acting like AOL. I was like, God, that was a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Like, okay, but you're still young. You're young at that time. Yeah, I'm super young. And his brother and his family were real, like, deep into somewhat organized crime, not like big time, but they were, they had a system, you know. And he's like, man, I heard you rob drug dealers. And I was like, I heard you rob drug dealers. He's like, man, come hang out with us.
Starting point is 00:04:14 So that's what really aligned, like we aligned our wildness. And he had the same broken home, the hate, the anger. We didn't understand at the time. So, you know, his brother had us fighting and we were doing all these crimes. And immediately, I would say, within the first year of doing all this, I got locked up. And it was for an armed robbery on a drug dealer. What happened? So basically, we would either go and kick in the door.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Like, I had a, it's kind of crazy, but this girl that I was dating who was actually my first love of my life, quote unquote, she was a stripper. and what she would do is and she was nice nice yeah and how old are you i'm 15 turned 16 or just turned 16 at the time okay so she would uh like set these guys up go in their house have their windows open and we creep in there and pull out weapons on them or she'd no one would be home and we would just take all their stuff and i wasn't using the drugs at the time like i was just selling them for half price to the same people helping me find these like licks you know and it was wild and eventually this guy came over to buy uh i think it was like five pounds of weed but we didn't have it and the crazy thing about it was i was on house arrest at the time
Starting point is 00:05:32 for in juvenile system for it was a i went to rob a drug dealer's house and i got caught like and then like doing a burglary like the neighbors called you know even though it's a drug dealer it's still illegal to go into a house yeah so i was still i just caught my first charge and just did a little time in the like attention center and then the juvenile they put me right on house arrest so i was on house arrest i was 16 now and uh my friend chanson and i came up with the great idea to tell this guy we have five pounds of weed come in and uh we walk him in the empty room you know i have no supervision no parents at the time at home they just home all the time alone and we basically make him give up the money you know he's like you know we pull out like
Starting point is 00:06:13 i think we had like a kitchen knife or something like that and he gets out out of there and we had it and he calls the cops and he made up saying we took his phone or whatever but it doesn't matter dude the crime is a crime right swat team comes in i'm 16 my friend got away for the moment but and your previous charge yeah and i was on house arrest so you know and he's like cut the band off man come and i was like nah man it's a drug dealer he's like dude let's go and uh so eventually they come they arrest me and this was my first real understanding of the system at 16 years old i got what's called direct filed um if people aren't familiar with with that. Being direct filed is when you're under the age of 18, they make a decision to
Starting point is 00:06:52 charge you as an adult based upon the severity of the crime. And they take you to gun club, which is the county jail of Palm Beach County, and you go on the 12th floor. And that's where they put all the juveniles charges as adults. And it's, you got kids facing murders and armed robberies. One kid was in there for six, like the worst or the worst juveniles. And I had armed robbery, which is punishable by life felony, you know, because anytime you use a weapon, a deadly weapon in the commission of robbery, regardless of what it is, it's so, but I had no, I was so young that I thought, I was, I was like, look with me, dog, yeah, yeah, yeah. So in there, this was my first understanding of how corrupt and crazy and violent Florida,
Starting point is 00:07:36 especially the youth offender system is. And, you know, my family, they wanted to help as much as they could at the same. same time you have the house I'd know you were a you're a lunatic yeah right he he's yeah and uh yeah exactly 100% like my dad and they were like listen you know we've helped you the first time and you're robbing people in the house on house arrest at 16 it's not good so their idea in the beginning was to just let me sit for a month which at 16 that's forever right you know you know and this was not your ordinary like detention center or like regular jail like this is the worst kids everyone's going to go to prison here or a charge adult or if they have a good lawyer maybe they'll get down
Starting point is 00:08:16 to the juvenile sentence and it was just constant fighting and you know there's really there was no it was like no real like encrypts and you know gangs like that no racial gangs but it was like this city that street and me being a white boy from the suburbs of boca ratone right south florida it was like literally just like hey where you from white boy and i'm like boca man tighten up and just fight so they have a thing called a test the heart and a test the heart in youth offender and the juvenile system in florida is where if you're not known or you're not affiliated or no one knows or can vowed for you you get in there and you're going to have to fight maybe stab and if if you're weak or you show any like they're putting brooms like it's in the
Starting point is 00:09:03 news where they're violating dudes with broomsticks and the officers are encouraging it it's like they take advantage of the young men because we really just need like a fatherly role model and they see that in us and they'll be like you guys fight here a Friday night fight have us in the cells fighting at 15 16 17 years old and we're all filled with rage and anger we're flooding the toilets and I was in so many fights there jumped hit with locks just nonstop this is not even prison yet I don't feel I don't feel like I do well there and we're all juveniles and like since I was like this is where I really learned. learned who I was because I had no idea this existed. I just, you know, I was fascinated by the
Starting point is 00:09:44 life and thought, oh, yeah, I'm tough. No, no, no, this is the real deal. And I'm not there with any friends, you know, I'm there by myself, this white dude from the suburbs and I'm around these young that are like, they've been doing this since they were 12, you know. And so it was nonstop just fighting. And then they would make us fight. And the officers, if you didn't fight, the officers would beat the crap out of you. You know, they had a thing called the Doom Squad where They'd come in there. I'm sure, you know, like they'd come in there with their little squad with their mat and it beat the crap out of you.
Starting point is 00:10:12 And it was just nonstop. And eventually they make a decision when you go to court if you're going to be charged or convicted as an adult or a juvenile. Now, lucky for me, since I really didn't have an extensive, extensive record at that time, they said, we're going to give you one chance. You're going to go to a program, which was a level A program, which is juvenile prison. You go there for, I think it was 16 months. and it was somewhere in like Miami I don't know where it was but it was like very like it was juvenile prison but they have like military structure and like a boot camp kind of it was like prison boot camp I guess for juveniles like but they ended up a kid there because the officers and like the drill instructors quote unquote but there were officers like they're very hands on so but I was like oh yes because at that time I was so scared to go to the adult system because you hear all these stories and then all these kids are making rumors.
Starting point is 00:11:07 So I take it the time, and I think it was 16 months and three years probation maybe, and but I was just so happy that I didn't have to go to the adult system. And so I go there and I'm probably 16, about turn 17, staying there. And it is just insane. I mean, these guys, the officers are pretending like they're drill instructors. Like they were in this middle. But no, they're beating our asses. They shut it down because they beat this one kid to death.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Like brutally, they would just kick us, punch us. like just beating us nonstop making us fight it was like what I was at on the 12th floor when I was direct filed yet they had so much more control over us and we had no contact to our families and it was like holy shit you know and uh it wasn't as methodical and as calculated as the adult system where you have some like real cunning criminals this was just pure unadult like they were just violent kids and violent COs that were taking advantage of these young men and just we would fight for entertainment that gamble on us, we fight, all this stuff. And, and me being the white dude from the suburbs,
Starting point is 00:12:18 it was just constantly fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting. And I was in no gangs and I'm like that. And I got out at about right before I turned 18. Did you do the whole 16 months? Yeah, in the program. And I, and I ended up, I think I ended up getting more time. It was, it was crazy in there. but um i get out and however uh i'm on the probate oh i had probation right and i and i violated my probation as soon as i got out and how just something so stupid i think it was uh i didn't show up at the right time it was just something so dumb and uh so i went back but they let me write like it was like i went back real quick but at that mind i thought i was like the the big dog now i came home to all my friends they didn't see me in forever to them and i'm i'm working i was like muscular
Starting point is 00:13:03 and so now instead of saying I'm going to change and be better I'm like I'm all in now I got connections with these people I know I'm tough because before I was a little meek and timid but now I'm like a savage and and and the beatings and the constant fighting and knowing what I can endure and what I can give back and mentally physically spiritually emotionally I became like a savage for all the wrong reasons and I came home and I'll never forget my mom didn't even recognize me when I came home she was like you know and so I was trying to like do good one foot in one foot out i was trying to i think get uh go to college but at the same time i'm robbing drug dealers again fighting linking up with the same people and it was like i'll never
Starting point is 00:13:43 forget like we're in a a house and there's a safe there and um not 18 or 19 just about turn 19 right now how did you get into a house with a safe what i understand so i mean what you're saying rob and drug dealers like you're skating over that like that's like like that's a normal thing So what we would do, what we would do is, is we would find, and then these are my two friends, Mark Anthony and Chance Wilson were like, we were like the three amigos, they're the Tombstone, right, the revenge tour, and Doc Holliday. And so what we would do is we go scouting and we would find out whoever was selling drugs. And we're young now.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And we learn from the older kids and they're all doing, they're gone, doing Fed time, some are dead, whatever. So now we're like the big dogs, I guess you'd call the suburbs, the trailer park, whatever you want to call it, you know, at least we thought we were. And we'd find out who was doing it, whether it was from a stripper or another woman and we kind of have her infiltrate them or we start slowly buying a little bit of amounts and we called it building a castle. We were a young, devious kids, dude, that just listened to too much rap music and watch Scarface too many times. Right. And we would either get them to trust us, put their guard down, and either find out their schedule, break in when no one was there.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Or we would just do a pull on straight up home invasion and lay everybody down, take their stuff and be out. walk up, kicking the door with, like the cops, and we'd pull them over on the side of the road and just catch them in their car. Like, we'd have them thinking they're meeting somebody for a drug deal. Like, we were bad kids. Right. The only thing I would say was a blessing, and I deserved to go to, like, I was, these weren't mistakes. These were all decisions.
Starting point is 00:15:19 And this was from coming from a broken home, and that's not an excuse. It was the misplaced anger, not knowing why. I didn't even know why I was doing this. Right. When I could be playing football, I could be going to college and having a normal life. But it was something about, like, I felt like I felt decepted, the thrill. I don't know, you know, but as I got older, I understood the psychology of why. So let's get out.
Starting point is 00:15:43 You're 18. You got out. Are you still living at home? You're kind of trying to placate your mom like, hey, I'm going to college. I'm trying to do the right thing, but you're also robbie. Yeah, one foot in, one foot out. Yeah. So the moment where I was like pretty much living in my friend Chance's house, but my mom was thinking
Starting point is 00:15:59 I was going to college, like, oh, you're doing so good, honey, like, no, you know. But like I said, she had her problems, too. So she wasn't as aware as this, like a mom that see this, like, what's going on here? You're coming home covered in, you know what I mean? Or you're breaking a safe open in the bathtub. But what happened? You said you broke into the one house and there was a safe. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:18 So this was something that was actually just something I remembered as we're talking about it. So we found a drug dealer and we knew he wasn't going to be home. We set it up to go on a date with this stripper, right? He was out there and she was texting us the whole time. And we break in through a, I want to say, the sliding glass door maybe or something like that. And, you know, obviously this is before cameras everywhere and a lot of technology. So we get in and we're trying to find everything. And the girls like on the date texting us, it's in there, it's in there, it's in there.
Starting point is 00:16:48 It's supposed to be like four grand and whatever. And finally we find everything. And it's in like this closet inside of a thing hidden well. you know, I got to give it to the dude, but it's one of those safes that we can't pick up and take because we're used to, our style used to be pick up the safe, put it in a laundry basket, cover it with laundry, and act like, we're going to do laundry or whatever, this one we couldn't get out. So we have our friend come, like, stall him to bring the saw.
Starting point is 00:17:16 We're in this man's house, trying to cut it open with a saw. My mom's calling me, you're going to be, you have school tomorrow. And I'm like, oh, my, don't worry. So we sat there for probably an hour. We got into it and we left and got the stuff. Was there for a grand inside? So what there was was about $4,000 worth of rolls, or not extra rolls. Like when they had like double stack rolls, like, I don't know, like there were the pill, like a dolphin, triple, like they were, but they were called rolls.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Okay. Because I don't know if you guys know. But. And that's when I started getting now into the next level of my like criminal life because this was worth a lot of money now. I think it was like more than I expected. It was $4,000 if you bought it like to sell, but it was probably like almost 50 grand if you had. So we thought we were the big dogs. We were just handing them out.
Starting point is 00:18:08 We were going buying shoes and clothes for women. We're young men here. And I immediately get caught. This was my, where I entered now because I never was like a drug dealer or anything like that. I just did this like it was almost like an adrenaline rush and the ladies loved it. We'd throw parties and we were just like living like. Like we were in like a Western movie, my friend and I, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:18:30 But as we know, there's consequences. And when you start doing this to people, things get serious. Yeah. And somebody somebody comes looking for it. These weren't kids anymore that we were robbing from middle school and high school. These were grown men that have been doing this. So now. And they're going to put together the stripper that I went on a date with that was texting a whole, like, it's not like these guys are idiot.
Starting point is 00:18:49 If they start thinking about it, they're going to like, okay, well, it was my buddy Todd or it was this chick. Yeah. You know? So there's only two people to really know that that safe was there. So it's not hard to put together. 100%. And it's so true, dude. And like you said, they're putting it together.
Starting point is 00:19:05 And these weren't young dudes anymore like us. Like these were like serious dudes about being serious. So when they see this, they have to, you know, they felt betrayed and they're coming out to us. So now life is like, we're selling the drugs now and we're making money doing that. We're still robbing, but we have a lot of problems. We're getting shot at. My house is getting shot at. everywhere we go people are trying to fight us like it's constant bar fights just in insanity
Starting point is 00:19:29 are you still living with your mom at that time but when i say living with my mom it's like i'd go there like here and there i know but i mean is the house that they're shooting at your moms no this was uh yeah yeah my mom's house there breaking windows your poor mom yeah i felt so horrible yeah i really you know i'm glad that i was able to make amends and and show her what i've become as a man today right but man did i put her through some stuff man and uh and then And I would feel so much ego and pride. Like I wouldn't even, it was like, how dare you? Like, but more, you know, we'd go after them.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And so this is where things take a turn for the worst. Now, I don't know if my bad luck of constantly being locked up for half of my entire, all my 20s and half my teenage years was a blessing. So having all these problems with people and being constantly like shot at fights and We're doing stuff, too, where, man, like, somehow I didn't get a life sentence, you know, somehow. And we go to a bar one night, and we are thinking we're the big shots. Like, we're loving it, though, because we're so just wild. We think this is the coolest thing ever.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Like, we're living, all these songs, all these movies, we think we're the real deal. Right. And as I would soon find out in life that, no, no, there is no, there is consequences. You're going to meet the real deal soon. Right. So we're at a bar, and we're in Broward County. And it's in Fort Lauderdale. I'm like, you guys familiar with that, Fort Lauderdale Beach, and we're having fun.
Starting point is 00:20:58 We're buying the, um, the, the bartender. We're getting, you need new shoes. We're acting like we're like these big shots and we're like these just stupid teenagers. And we're having fun. And whole and behold, someone did the old reverse uno card on us. Someone had got the drop on us and it was probably the bartender, made the call and said, those dudes are here. They're acting real crazy with all the money while.
Starting point is 00:21:21 So the people that we robbed, whoever they were, showed up there. I walk outside and I don't even know who these people are, you know, and I'm always, like, ready for whatever. I have weapons on me constantly. Like, I was living super reckless. And he says something to me. And I just thought it was a regular guy that was going to be a bar fight. And he's like, something like, where's my, this shit? I go, what?
Starting point is 00:21:44 Like, what do you say? And all of a sudden it turns into him swinging chairs. And I'm thinking it's just a bar fight. I don't know what's really going on right now. and I'm getting hit with a like a bat on the side of my head. My friend comes out. It turns into this huge brawl, this huge scuffle. People are fighting over here, over here.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Everything's just crazy. And they're like, we're calling the cop. People are getting pepper sprayed, hit with brass knuckles. And someone's like shooting guns off. Boom, boom. And everyone's like scattering. And I'm still thinking this is a bar fight. So I was like, let's go, guys.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Let's ride. Because like, we're messed up. I'm bleeding. They're bleeding. So I was like, whatever. We get in the car and this dude comes up and starts hitting my window. And I'm thinking, at first I thought I was going to get shot. I was like, and then I saw it.
Starting point is 00:22:24 He started saying something like, give my shit, my, my, my, and I'm thinking like, and I go, and I roll out in the window, I go, dude, it's a bar fight, man. What is your problem? And he keeps saying, give me, give me. And I'm like thinking like, why? So I have a knife on me. I take it out and I put it up to his neck. And I say, motherfucker, I will be right now, dude, this is a bar fight.
Starting point is 00:22:43 A little bribes comes out. I don't know why he's doing this. And then we get in the car, we leave. I'm like, what an idiot, man. Like, what is he? It's a bar fight. And my friend's in the back seat. And he's like, dude, you don't know?
Starting point is 00:22:54 And I was like, what do you mean? He goes, those are those dudes that we robbed a couple weeks ago, man. I beat the shit out of one of them. And I took all his other shit, too. And he pulls out, like, a guy's chain. He goes his wallet. And we're not like chain snatches like that. He just did it to be an asshole.
Starting point is 00:23:08 And I'm like, oh, you fucking idiot, dude. Why didn't you tell me this? Dude, why was you running my car with a chain? And so someone that was still there that wasn't part of, like, us, really? they were just kind of an associate of us he's like dude you're fucked they called the cops said you put a knife up to him and you guys robbed him for his chain you know they wanted to get their get back to him and they're not wrong for it and you've got and you've got a chain in your car 100% once that happened i immediately dumped my car jump into my friend's car and uh he's driving
Starting point is 00:23:37 and my friend chances there and he starts beating the crap out of the he's just beating the dog shit out of the dude who took the chain like what the fuck is wrong what you putting you know and he's just beating his ass and and they're going crazy and i'm thinking like fuck so we make it to my house. I'm like, all right, guys. I'll see y'all later, man. Just go. And I run upstairs and I'll never forget it. My sister was there and my mom, man. And I'm 19. And I run upstairs and I open up my bed. I had like a stash pot there. I grab like a stack of cash. I grab a pistol and a bunch of, uh, I think it was some, some weed and some other stuff. And I got this huge like, uh, navy camo, blue thing in the middle of summer in Florida. I'm run down. And they're like,
Starting point is 00:24:19 what's going on Jeremy and you know you know and they're like what's going on Viking whatever you want to call me and I'm like uh guys listen I love you you won't be seeing me for a while and my mom just was like so sad but like so I leave and I run and I'll never forget it my neighbor who was like a good friend of mine also a fellow criminal at the time he's like dude I don't know what you did but there's swat in here dogs everywhere helicopters come to my house now and I remember running I'm running and running, running, running, and I see the helicopters, and they're in there, and he opens up the garage, and I slide in there, and I'm in there, and I end up giving him, like, a thousand dollars, and I stay there for the night. I'm watching them all. Look for me nonstop. You know,
Starting point is 00:24:59 they have me as, like, a violent felon that just pulled the knife out on a guy and rob them for no reason. Right. And now, what are you thinking that you're going to go on the run for a while and hope it dies down? Oh, no, I'm all in now. I'm telling myself, this is it. I'm going to, I'm screwed. You know what I mean? And I'm hoping. What is your, are you thinking, like, if I can get away from these guys, then I just, I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing. So in the moment, I was just thinking to get away. Okay. So then once I got my mind clear, and remember, I'm 19, so I don't really have my frontal lobes develop there, you know.
Starting point is 00:25:29 So my thinking was, all right, you know, I'm going to go get a hold of the dude that took the chain. I'm going to force him to go and admit that he took that chain and right in my car. Because regardless, there's one thing you don't do, man, and we don't take people's chains and then run in a car. And the guy was like, they're taking pictures of my license plate. And he's just sitting there laughing. So I was like, you know what? I'm going to get the chain back and they'll drop the charges. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:25:55 That was how I was thinking. So, and I'll turn myself in and I'll be all right. So, you know, and obviously I find the dude. We get him. He gives me back the chain. And we end up working something out to where he admits that he didn't know I pulled the knife out. And I said, I didn't know, he didn't know I had a knife. and I didn't know we both admit that and I was like okay cool and now I was thinking like good you
Starting point is 00:26:23 did something good man you know as much as a piece of shit you were for doing that I mean we're all pieces of shits but you know you know dirt bag on dirt bag crime at least help and I'm trying to say like these guys are drug dealers though they're like yeah okay man so he does that for me I had a public defender I give him that and he's like the fuck am I going to do it this dude some guy telling us that He committed a crime and you didn't know he committed a crime. This didn't get to do shit, dude. And so my friend Chance went again after him and did whatever he had to do and got him to get me a paid lawyer. And I sat in that jail for probably a year.
Starting point is 00:26:57 And I ended up maybe a little bit over a year in Broward. And basically, I haven't been caught yet. I was going to say, by the way, that makes sense that like these are two separate events. Like one is like, I understand what you're saying. I don't know why your lawyer would say this doesn't mean shit. To me, that means everything. Did I pull, you know, I had a knife. Did I pull a knife?
Starting point is 00:27:19 Yeah, but it was only because this guy's banging on my window. It was a fight. It had nothing to do with a robbery. Because the moment there's a robbery and you used a weapon. I mean, you're looking at what, 10, 15 years in Florida, something like that? It was a game changer. If that was the whole thing, yeah, yeah. So that's why immediately once that guy's, the PD, the public defender said that, I said, I got to get a lawyer.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Yeah. So, so my friend. So, yeah, the guy who initially did that, you know, he fucked up. And he knew he did. He paid for a lawyer. And he's like, you're facing arm robbery, you know. So let's go back before you get arrested. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:27:49 I'm sorry. So I'm still on the run now. And I'm everywhere. I'm just living from place to place, just whatever. And once I get everything situated, you know, and I have like kind of situated, I end up getting caught on the run, getting in a traffic stop. And I get caught in a traffic stop. And I go directly there.
Starting point is 00:28:08 And my charge is arm robbery, robbery with a deadly weapon, battery, battery, with a deadly weapon, battery with a deadly weapon, causing harm, and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. And the other one was conspiracy to commit armed robbery, as if we plan this, the whole event. What is that? What is that? If you get sentenced, what is that? I'm facing life.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Okay. At 19. Fuck. But you do have two prior charges. Yeah. And, yeah, and they're all similar, you know, like MOs, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:37 So I was like, holy shit. And in 19, I'm still, like, so, I would say just so immature that, yes, I'm, like, scared, but I'm thinking, like, I can't show any emotion. Like, so I'm in the jail now. I'm, you know, basic traffic stop, pulled over. They knew who I was. I think somebody told on me, they pull, they pull out guns, felony stop. They beat my ass, take me to jail.
Starting point is 00:29:01 And I'm in there. And they put me in a high custody tank because I'm facing life in prison now at 19. And I'm like, fuck, man. like like dang like you know but whatever i'm learning it and now i'm in the adult situation now and i'm seeing oh this is a whole different world these are grown men that that that you know so i am like having to like lose that young mentality a fight fight fight fight fight fight because these dudes aren't they're stabbing and they're waiting for you to go somewhere in a blind spot and they're gonna you know so it's a whole different calculated game they're making money in here
Starting point is 00:29:33 so you get you can't just be acting reckless and i'm learning this also while facing life i'm just so like like just it's the it was the weirdest I don't know how to describe it was like almost like an out of body experience now looking back like being 19 thinking this is going to be my life forever I have no hope nothing and then at the same time having to be there and be ready for whatever because I'm 19 and I think these dudes are going to all try to victimize me and I will never be a victim is how I had it so I went the extra mile in that jail and you know it is jail so it's not as crazy as prison, but these are all people facing serious, serious crimes. You know, they got red bands on, which is like high custody. So I'm in there sitting for probably six, maybe 14 months at the
Starting point is 00:30:19 time. And they're not coming down. They're trying to sentence me to 14, 15 years. And I'm like, fuck, man, but I got the information. Like, like, I'm thinking, why isn't this? And they're like, it doesn't matter with your history. You're outrunning with knives. You know, so they go and they say, listen, what we'll do is if you plead guilty to every single one of these charges, we'll do what's called a open plea. And we'll give you a, and you know what an open plea is, guys? Yeah, I know an open plea in the federal system. And I don't know anybody that's ended up well for.
Starting point is 00:30:52 So, yeah, they kind of convince you, like, you'll go on from the judge, you'll explain the situation, the judge will just make the call. And then, of course, your lawyer kind of convinced you, like, the judge is going to see, he's going to see that you it wasn't your fault and it was just this isolated small event where it was a bar fight he's going to understand you could explain that to him and really he your lawyer kind of knows like like bro you're going to get in front of the fucking judge it's going to be he's he's going to be like you're a fucking menace yeah that's that's 100% right and I was so young and naive and you hit it right on the head bro because I'm thinking oh they'll see it my way
Starting point is 00:31:27 like they'll see that it was just a bar fight on my end and I'll be all right man I got the stuff like that all right yeah Right? Like, the fact that he's even having me open plea facing life was, like, crazy. Now, um, uh, so we finally get to court. And this is when one of these moments in life that you just never forget. And I go in front of the judge and he's reading the stuff. And he's like, he's like, so, uh, you know, Jeremy, uh, Viking, you know, Mr. Viking reading, you, you, you want to open plea to, to, to all these are robbery, conspiracy to commit armed robbery, bad. I'm like, yes. And, and, and, you know, And I'm thinking, he's like, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:32:05 The prosecutor's going to put a good word in for you. You're good, right? But I'm so young and I'm naive that I'm thinking, okay, I'm good. And so I'm like, okay, cool. And he's like, you know, so he's reading everything. And he's like, now listen, you know I can give you anything from time served today to life in prison. Or do you understand that? Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:32:27 And then they go through the whole thing. Are you making this plea, you know, knowingly willing to ask you all? You're in drugs, alcohol. Yes. No, sir. Yes, I understand, you know, and I'm doing it. And I'm thinking, okay, here comes the prosecutor going to come in mind. He's like, worry, relax.
Starting point is 00:32:41 And I'm like, life in prison. What the fuck? You know, like, I'm freaking out. He's like, just calm down, man. And I'm like, all right. And the prosecutor goes, sir, we recommend that this man gets 22 years in prison. And I'm like, what? And I go, I thought you said, we're going to attack.
Starting point is 00:32:55 That was the good one. Yeah, no, that was my lawyer who said the prosecutor's going to be. They all got it all worked out. Yeah. And I, like, now looking back, I know that they just basically. like sold me out like that and I look at him he's like don't worry no worry he still telling me not to worry and I'm just like I'm like I'm 19 going through this like I just don't know what to do I don't know if I want to cry or just anger I don't know what to do
Starting point is 00:33:16 and I'm thinking like but there's still hope you know so I'm like maybe the judge will see it so then he my lawyer goes to talk and he's just like listen you know he's young it's the most basic thing I'm like tell him about the paper he's like and we got the paper where the guy says he did this and it didn't mean for this and And, you know, that's it. But tell him about my this and what I have, my plans. And it's like the quickest thing ever. It was like over before it started.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And I seen that. And I said, I got to take this in my own hands. So I said, I said, your honor, can I speak? And he goes, okay, just know, you know, what you're facing. And he goes over it again about faith. And I said, I know that I messed up. And I know that I have to do time. I would just like to be able to come out at some time relatively young or
Starting point is 00:34:03 go somewhere where I can change, maybe a youth defender program or something like that. And he's like, well, you've already, we've already done that. You know, we tried that. And, you know, it didn't work. And he's like, he's like, so I'm looking here and they're recommending 20 some odd years. And, you know, your lawyer really didn't give me a really good reason for your, your circumstances to this. So he's reading it and reading it. And it was like, oh, my God. I'm like, this is it. I mean, this is my life now. And he comes in and he goes, Well, I'm going to tell you like this, Mr. Viking. He goes, you're lucky.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And right, I'm lucky. I'm thinking like, okay? And he goes, there's a new program here. It's a youth offender. And YO. in Florida's youth defender where you get a one chance at it, where you can get, it's one to six years. You can get, if you're under the age of 23, and he's like, I'm going to send you to the youth offender program, you know, you're going to do, I think it was, you have your credit plus two, and you'll have to do the rest.
Starting point is 00:35:01 on probation. I was like, okay. But, so how much time did he just give you? So it would be a total of almost three years. So it would be, but you already have a year. Yeah. So basically, and then with 85%, I'm looking at like 20 months maybe, not bad, right? But Y-O is insane.
Starting point is 00:35:17 It's just, it's like horror stories because there's no organization. There's no, like, we're doing, it's just pure, not fighting. I mean, they're putting broomstick up dudes' asses in there. And it's just insanity. It's like that, like I described. the direct file 12 floor like that on steroids so i'm hearing all these stories like do you not have fight man you're going to learn so i get to the the area the finally i go back to the jail and but to me i want i'm like hoof i did it and uh so i'm so now i've barely had any time free i know the
Starting point is 00:35:50 system i know you know i'm hearing these horror stories but i'm ready for whatever so they transfer me i get there and it's similar to that with like the drill instructors but these are COs and everybody's in there for serious crimes and you get one chance at youth offender. That's it in your life. You can never get it again, no matter if you're a teenager and you get arrested multiple times, you get it once. And I got blessed that time. And I go in there and boom, right at it.
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Starting point is 00:37:54 and it was just fight after fight, extortion. That was the big thing. extortion in the Florida prison, like, if you weren't, like, had anything going and you weren't fighting and immediately test the heart. They call it the TOH or a heart check. You walk in there and they'll try it. They'll take your canteen, your stuff, slap you in the face, and you'll have to line it up. And that's the term for like, you're going to fight me. You're going to fight my brother. You're going to fight him. And after child, you'll fight again. And it was just like,
Starting point is 00:38:18 holy shit, man, going through this again, but even more violent. But I made it through and I got out. And this time I thought, you know what, I'm going to change my life, right? That's what I thought. You know, so now I'm 21, 22. And I get up and I get out and I'm like, all right, I got a little probation and stuff to do. And, you know, I'm like, I'm doing good now. And that was like my introduction to real prison. Even though it was a youth offender thing, it was the most violent thing place I've ever been yet.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And very corrupt. The CEOs will put people, you know, in yourself. or like to fight you or your enemies like a lot of nasty games going on but i'd yet to see the adult system where dudes are making house payments on the inside and they're going to get you over that over nothing all right and i get out and i'm trying to do right and i have the mind frame and i meet this chick who's a stripper and you know she ends up putting me up to another lick and i'm like fuck man it's like this shoulder this shoulder here and i immediately i'm just I go from zero to 100 within, I'd say, six months of me being out, and I'm still on
Starting point is 00:39:30 parole, or not, it's probation. They don't have parole, but it's basically parole. And I just go on a robbing spree. I'm robbing every drug dealer there is. And this chick and I are like Bonnie and Clyde. You know, when we got arrested, they called us Bonnie and Clyde a Boca. And I'm just going crazy. She's like the cute little, like, girl.
Starting point is 00:39:46 And I was really turned it up now because my level of violence and what I've felt, I had a lot of, a lot more rage. a lot more. And I was diabolical. And I was just robbing everything. And we ended up, there was a store that was a front for a drug dealer. And we robbed them and they were after us. And then I went to go collect money at this house where they were supposed to be like the guy at and whatever.
Starting point is 00:40:14 It was a job for somebody. And she was like, I'm going to go there. And I was like, just wait a second. She was like so pushing me to go. And I'm like, come. What do you rush? I, like, you know? Like, she was like, oh.
Starting point is 00:40:25 almost like doing the old like I need a man to come with me like you know like of course I'm but I'm a man I'll go so I go with her and automatically I go to it's like an apartment building and I know something's not right it's the guy's supposed to be here nobody's here and she's like look listen they got the money in there we're just going to fucking take it I got a key to the thing and she starts using like a nail clipper and there's cameras everywhere but I don't I don't even give a shit I'm just wondering like what's going on here and I was like what are you doing and she's like shut the up just help me and I was like I thought you had a key I thought it's like I see what's going on and so we're arguing and it's on video and everything like that and
Starting point is 00:40:59 I'm like what the fuck you know and all of a sudden I just you know what you want to be tough you want to be a gangster you know that you know shit you know and I had did all this time already growing up in the system state race I kick in the door I go in there and there's a little money in there but I realized that this was like not the right spot this was all bullshit and and I feel like I find out later it was all set up so we go in there and I'm looking and there's nothing there. We leave. And within probably five minutes, the cops are there, right on us. A setup for what? To arrest
Starting point is 00:41:29 you? So, let me explain it better. So the girl that I was doing this with had got caught with some pills earlier. And they're like, we know your man is the one responsible for all these robberies, all these stuff out here. And I wasn't robbing civilians. I was strict, but some
Starting point is 00:41:45 of these businesses were front, some of these places were, you know. And the cops don't know when they get there if it's a legit business. You're breaking in, you know, and there's civilians that live in there and they're like so you're going to go to jail you're going to lose your kid or you know let us know what's going on so she's like I think he might be going to this place so her way of doing it was hey I know where some money's at I know a place we can collect it you'll get broken off and as we're getting there closer it was like I see now she was buying time and she was
Starting point is 00:42:14 like oh we'll just take the fucking money we'll just get the money and I'm like but I still wanted to go along with it because I didn't want to look scared to her or anything like that And I love this girl, right? She was different. Right. And so eventually I kick in the door and I realize that it's all bullshit. And I'm like, let's get the fuck out of here. And she's like, no, wait, wait, let's take this.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Let's take that. She's waiting for the cops. Yeah, she's trying to take clothes. Like shit that we've never done before closed. What do you do? And I'm like, let's fucking go. So we leave and we don't get too far. And all of a sudden, they just come.
Starting point is 00:42:46 The cops like swarmed. I run. I get the fuck out of there. Did they follow you or? So I think they were either watching it. Or they were on their way. Or somehow, like, they never put her out there like that. But in my mind, I know from the paperwork that she wasn't informant, and I feel like she told
Starting point is 00:43:01 him where I would be at a certain time, and they got me there. And I got away. You know, I ran, got away, and hit off into this area I was living, and I was living in this freaking apartment building where the landlord was a dope fiend, and I would just pay my rent with whatever drugs I stole. And so I could just hide in this apartment, that apartment. I told him what's going on. He's like, going this one, going that one.
Starting point is 00:43:24 And I'm on the run, just hiding from place to place. And all of a sudden, I would say a month of getting away, maybe a little less, I hear a knock on the door. And they say, I'm like, who is it? They're like, it's Timmy, or they just say, I know. I look, and that's a two-story, and they got everywhere surrounded. No, you remember, I'm 22, man. And, like, again, here I am, like, in another situation.
Starting point is 00:43:50 They're like, SWAT team around, guns pointed. it everywhere and I'm like fuck and they're like listen you're done you know and they're like they come in they arrest me take me down to the station they they flip the house and there was shit in the house it wasn't even mine I got charged with all of it like whatever everything that was in there from weapons to all types of shit dude and on top of it they bring me down to the station and they show me the recording of me kicking in the door and and I was like oh my brain I was like that's it. And they're like, oh, no, no, she's, she's over there telling everything right now. You're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're going down. And they, you know, I said, but I'm like, I want
Starting point is 00:44:28 my lawyer. I mean, I don't do the snitch and shit. I don't, and plus, there's no talk on your way out of it. They don't come in with a SWAT team to let you go later on. Right. So, now this is my introduction to manhood now. Now, it's, it's real. You know, there's no more. So this is where things get really, like, this is where my life, to me, this was a blessing. But what I went through, you know, in the end, it justified the means, I guess you would say, but I had to really go through this to really get to the man I am today, the father I am today. So I'm arrested. They take me down to the gun club, you know, and while I'm there, I have a case in Broward County. Broward County, something with, something, battery on a law enforcement resisting arrest that I don't
Starting point is 00:45:17 even know where this was. They bring me there. Why I'm there. In my mind, I'm already committed. I'm 100% all in. This is going to be my life. I don't, I just completely cut off my family. I remember, like, I had picked up the phone or something, and they were like, yeah, I'm in traffic, man, I can't take it. I'm just thinking, I just couldn't relate. This is my life forever now. Right, right. That's how I feel. I'm never going home. I've burnt all my chances, burnt all my family. It's over, you know. So I'm in there and I'm waiting to get this case resolved to go to Palm Beach, to go take my prison time and go start the rest of my life. And in there, my friend comes to me that I know, because this is in my town, you know, relatively close. And he's like, dude, you see who that dude is?
Starting point is 00:45:56 And I'm like, who? And he goes, he's such and such. And what he was doing was he was putting cameras in the kitty bathrooms at a local park that, you know, we all grew up at and selling it on whatever he was doing it on. And one of the kids that could have been a victim was a friend of the family my family and so i make a decision there that you know this was my first time really seeing chomos and because like in the juvenile and all and that you you don't really see that too much it's more just young kids that are fighting rob and stealing maybe a couple of here but it's mainly just all like drug dealing and so this was like i was like you motherfucker and i felt it was my duty to do this make a name for myself because now i'm going to the adult system for a very long time and i remember
Starting point is 00:46:42 I talked to the trustee and the officer. And I say to him, I say, what's up with dude? And he's like, yeah, that's him, you know, confirm it. I said, can I get some help? He goes, yeah. He goes, just make it happen quick. So they had it come up with the trustee because we're in jail. And the trustee are the ones that serve the trays or they're sentenced to like less than a year.
Starting point is 00:47:00 And that's only in jail. You know, they don't really have trustees in state prison in Florida that I'm aware of. And they cover where the officer could see with the trust, with all the trays. And I go up to the dude and I say, man, what do you, what are you, what are you a, what's your definition of a? And I go, you know, what the fuck I'm talking about, motherfucker? And, uh, and, you know, and at this time, I'm a state race. So I'm, I've done thousands of, you know, like, I'm grown up in the system.
Starting point is 00:47:26 So all I know is violence and then pushups, dude, really. And, uh, he's like, this was a hustle man. This was a hustle man. And I've beat his ass from, from fucking pillar to post. And, you know, finally about after 15 minutes of it, he's in the shower. just completely bloodied out and you know what dude i i regret a lot of things i've done in my life but never when it comes to someone who hurts women or children like that i don't give a fuck dude ever and um so they come in the officers they cuff me up they bring me in the room like you took
Starting point is 00:47:58 it too far man you fucking idiot and i'm thinking like i took it too far you guys are helping me do this but i don't say that i'm just like yeah whatever i'm just keeping quiet and they put me in like another like an isolation unit like a confinement basically and they're like yeah man you're going to get outside charges you fucked him up and i'm like whatever and i'm sitting in there fight you know going to wait and going to these little court dates and i can't believe that they're even doing this in my mind for a fucking chomo and that's the mentality though that i had as i should be able to do what the i want if i believe the reason's right you know what i mean that's my thinking at the time so i eventually it was like they were trying to
Starting point is 00:48:38 to offer me a plea of like three years. And I was like, no, I want to trial. I'm going to trial. There's no witnesses. And then he ends up forgetting what happened and saying he doesn't remember me or anything like that. Right. So they dropped the whole thing. They dropped the case. And then I got that hold off me. They sent me to Palm Beach. Get to Palm Beach County jail now. Now I'm facing the home invasions, the burglaries, the armed robberies, all in the drug dealers. And that's when I get my discovery and find out, yes, that girl was an informant. She had set me up and charges that I didn't even know I was going to get charged with were because of her and it was fucked up you know and things that they found she she testified that they were 100% mine when
Starting point is 00:49:15 they really weren't but who can say they weren't and she testified to only get a year on her time right and that's what it was so I was like all right so here I am and they left me in the holding tank for like I'd say two days dude and they kept interrogating me tell us tell us we got recordings tell us tell us and i was like i'm built different i told them because i had that mentality of that youth criminal you know and what is the benefit to telling them to to admitting to it i mean they're they're they're trying to think i'm like this this young kid that's like just tell us what happened dude like because i'm guilty and like yeah dude it'll help you get to rehab whatever you and i'm just like dude can i can i go back and so they're like shocked that a young kid is like so
Starting point is 00:49:59 callous to the system and I was like you know and so I go back finally they bring me to like to where you go outside of the holding tank like and they put you in basically a a transitional cell or a unit where you're going to go to based on your custody and I got labeled with max custody and it's called the east side they call it the jungle and I was like holy shit and I remember the new bemo Vi-i Porter MasterCard is your ticket to more more perks more points more flights more of all the things
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Starting point is 00:50:50 to learn more they're like all right we're going to call names but you haven't been sentenced yet no no so let me explain it better I'm sorry so in Gun Club And when you're on the adult side, you basically, you go in and after you get through intake, you go into a unit where they kind of do a mini classification. And then they, based upon your charges, your case, your, you know, your level of, you know, management, they put you in a unit based on that.
Starting point is 00:51:18 And you're only in there a couple of days. And they go, call your name. And they say, you're going to this. You're going here. And I'm like, all right, I'll just go. I'm thinking I'm going to go to the easy side. And they put me on the east side. which is literally chaos and and i'm going to get into that right now so as soon as i go there
Starting point is 00:51:35 i remember a dude i knew he's like oh man boy you're fucked dude you're fucked dude he's like i hope you that's and i'm like and i'm thinking like man you did like that was my mind then you know i i didn't care like nobody could tell me anything right and that that false bravado so i remember we walked to the the unit and i'm looking and there's no officers anywhere in site. Their thing is down, so they can't even look in there. So I'm like, what the heck? And it's two-man cells. And I'm thinking, oh, a dude can get beat to death. So these stories are true when I'm hearing. And this is just jail. And so I get in there. And I remember I'm with another white guy. And he's like, I ain't going in this motherfucker. I'm checking in. And I'm thinking, like,
Starting point is 00:52:16 what a bitch, dude. And now I look back. I'm like, shit. He was right the whole time, but obviously I was in a check-in and I was ready for whatever came my way. And this is the first time I've ever been in a place where there's no assigned bunks or anything like that. So I'm walking with my stuff and I'm looking in the cell and they're like, not here, white boy. So I go down to the next cell and the dude's like, not here, bro. I go here, unless you're going to pay. And so I'm like, holy fuck. So finally, this cool Mexican dude is like, man, you come here, bro.
Starting point is 00:52:44 So I come in there and put my stuff down and he's like giving me the run around. He's like, listen, dude, I know it's kind of jail, but this is serious here, bro. You got dudes fighting death penalty cases. Dudes, if you're facing life, Prid, like this isn't anything to play with. they're robin cells, you know, so he's showing me, and we're talking, this is over course of, like, three or four hours, and he's showing me where the knives are at, and he's like, don't, if you're on any, like, pussy bullshit, any weak mind shit, coward acts, dude, I will, we will fuck you up, dude, you understand.
Starting point is 00:53:10 I got you, bro, he's like, you bring anybody in here on that bullshit, we'll fuck you up, and they're part of an organization, some, like a southern Mexican organization, whatever they are, you know, that's who they are, and, uh, so I'm seeing the chaos. It's just unreal. And one of the first nights I'm in there, they beat the shit out of this kid so bad and the way they come and count,
Starting point is 00:53:32 I just couldn't believe this because I was used to like the structured system. Now it's like they come in, they're like, all right, you guys all here, all right, cool, boom, and they walk out. The officers, and they go back to doing it. And they tuck the guy in, and it took the guy in. And it took him out, and it was just like, I was like, okay, this is the real deal. And
Starting point is 00:53:50 I was like, let me try to see if I can get bonded out. I remember getting on the phone. Yeah, so this is like the day after I call my mom and I say, hey, and she's like, hey, baby, how are you? You know, I was like, good mom. I was like, so you think I get bonded out? She's like, your bond's like 100,000. Like, what do you think? No, she's like, you need to stay in there and suffer the consequences.
Starting point is 00:54:09 You're not getting out. Yeah. I said, all right, I understand, mom. And while I'm on the phone, a dude says to me, he goes, hey, let me get a three-way, Billy Cracker. And a three-way, if, you know, people don't know, it's basically back in the day, you would have the other person that you're calling on the prison phone jail phone make a call for you right and unless you know that person that's very disrespectful and cracker in florida isn't like a bad thing to say yeah but it is you know what i mean it's it is obviously racist but it's not as bad as people think from other states but the fact
Starting point is 00:54:43 that he asked me for like a three-way didn't know me and said that while i'm on the phone it was automatic rounds we have to fight so my mind is still on the youth offender mindset the juvenile prison mindset where we go in the cell we fight one-on-one and we go about it like you know and that's how it is you know and or if it's other shit it's always usually a one-on-one or or we make it happen but it's always usually like controlled so I walk into the cell I was like what's up so I was all right mom I'll love you by click hang up I go what's up dude and he's like uh he's like what's up what's up white boy let's go so we go into the cell right and this was the first mistake I made but obviously I learned after this one and we get in there and we're strapped up put your shoes on
Starting point is 00:55:23 and we square off, boom, boom, boom, boom, we're fighting in there. And all you hear is squeaking of the feet, you know, boom, slap into the face. And, you know, he's getting the better of me, but I'm landing. But, like, I'm trying to make a point that I'm not the one. I'm going to be here for a while. And all of a sudden, I feel like this hit in the back of my head. I don't know if it was a lock or a rock or whatever it could have been, but it was something that wasn't a fist.
Starting point is 00:55:43 And I didn't get knocked out, but I was like, I was like, my legs were weak. And I just saw the stars. And, like, three of them came in the room of his friends. And they just start, boom, boom, boom. boom, jumping me, hitting me with whatever weapon they had. And I'm just, like, getting just completely jumped. And I'm swinging wild. Boom, boom, boom.
Starting point is 00:56:01 And I remember I grabbed one dude's head and we fell back into the, we fell back like that. And like, we're between this little wall and the toilet. And like, the dude goes and he goes to football kick me. Like the, like, because I have his friend and my face is right here. Right. And his friend's head. And I'm like poking his eye. I'm biting him.
Starting point is 00:56:19 I'm like literally like, I'm like, this is, oh, this is bad for your life. He was like just straight adrenaline. And I remember, like, putting my finger in his ear and, like, just giving him a baby. Like, I'm not letting him go. This is my own. All I got. And the dude goes, he's like, get off my own. Boom.
Starting point is 00:56:32 And he kicks me. And I go to block it with this hand. And it ends up, like, I didn't know at the time, but he completely dislocated, broke this whole entire, like, wrist and finger was hanging off like this. And I was like, ah. And he kicks me again. They have, boom, football kick. But I'm still holding on to the guy. And they just keep, they're hitting.
Starting point is 00:56:49 And I'm still just kind of somehow the adrenaline. And they're like, yo, let's put his head in the toilet. And basically a thing they do in Florida, they call flushing your soul down the toilet is especially if they don't like, they do with the like people that are like fighting back. Like it's it's fucked up. But like they didn't like that I was doing this. That dude was embarrassed that I was like like just getting him. All his friends were beating my ass. And he's like, put his head in the toilet and just kick it in.
Starting point is 00:57:13 So they were going to put my head in the metal toilet and just stomp me to death and flush it. They call flushing his soul down the toilet. And I don't know just the adrenaline, the rush or whatever. I just I just and I get up and I'm just kind of backing out of the cell boom boom boom so like I was it was just that like you hear how like the moms lift up to the buses or whatever it was that same type of thing and I just never felt that much like the most dangerous person is someone that's in fear right not scared but fear and it was just a power I never even knew I was as strong and so I back out of that cell and I'm just fighting my way out and like I'm not feeling anything yet and dude that I was originally fighting he's like coming towards me. and we're squaring up again and uh they're coming there too and they go one time one time the officers are coming in to do the count and i'm like all right so like that adrenaline dump comes boom i go in the cell my roommate is the mexican dude he's cool he's like hey you're a warrior my my accent dude i'm not really good at accent but he's like hey white boy you're a warrior
Starting point is 00:58:13 dude holy shit and i had a and i ended up finding out there but i had a broken or with a bone completely my thumbs right here is it's all messed up i'm bleeding everywhere everywhere and it's all setting in now like i'm the adrenaline dump right and he's like yo we got to hide you though and and when they when they flick the light so you have about a minute or so to kind of get it some guys mopping up the real quick like and everyone's going to sell like nothing happened and he's trying to he's like let me fix you up and he's taking a sock and he's trying to sew this thing but it's so gashed and he's like it's thinking the work and he's taking like a sock string with a needle fucking probably almost luckily i didn't get no diseases right and he's just trying to get
Starting point is 00:58:52 through it and it's not working and he's looking at him and he's like just just go under the covers bro and pretend you're sleeping so i'm like all right all right so the officers come in there he's like all right man everybody good everybody here and they're like yeah man yeah it's just crazy right and they this is a horrible story yeah it's a horror it's a horror story okay and and this and anybody that's been there will contest like this like it's how it is in gun club it's it's very like the south side isn't like this but the east and east and west is just brutal in the 12th floor so um i get out of the off the bed and he's like uh hey man you know you're warrior you know we respect you
Starting point is 00:59:26 he's like but you know these motherfuckers you know it is what it is he's like he's telling me basically i should go to medical right now right check it check in basically i said that man look at me do i look like i want to check in now dude i almost got my head flushed down the toilet dude you know and he's like all right bro so i got out and dude's like coming up to me and i was like let's go back let's run it again and he's like nah man we're good right and he's like this went too far he's like trying to i's like no that dude let's run it come on so everyone's standing there and he's like all right all right then let's do it so so we square up to run it again and he's got all his partners with him and uh like they're kind of like
Starting point is 00:59:59 we're getting closer and then like they kind of stop and i'm like what the fuck you know and he's like no we're good i'm straight and like then i realize because obviously my peripheral vision everything was i'm bleeding out my ear everything is that his group is me the mexican his brothers and everything like that the south siders you know they're standing behind me and they're like no bro you're gonna give the white world one-on-one he's a warrior he already showed it he'll fight and in my head initially i was thinking like why didn't where were y'all at before yeah but it's politics you know they want to make sure if you know yeah i was just said but they didn't know you were my charges they didn't know anything about it and they didn't know i was stand up and they didn't want to
Starting point is 01:00:35 lose face you know and they're standing there they got knives in their hand one dude's face in the death penalty you know and uh they're like you know so they basically fall back and and and i was like all right we go back to decide he's like bro you're a warrior bro he's like he's like he's that we respect you, dude. He's like, you'll never have you. I mean, you'll get one-on-ones and this and that, but you prove it, bro, we got your back. I'm the only white dude in here, period.
Starting point is 01:00:56 You know, the other white dude is the one that left in the coma. And so, like, you know, but I didn't really have any hate at that time. I just felt like I was doing time because in the juvenile and stuff, it's, you don't push that ideology on you like they do in the adult system in prison. And so I'm in there and about four or five days go by and they're like, they're like, that white boy is crazy. bro like i'm walking around thumb is hanging off and uh just you know and he's always trying to gash it up they're they're using like strength and it's just getting worse and um and i'm like
Starting point is 01:01:29 fucked up like and you know like after a car accident you don't feel it but like later on yeah so it's that thing but except an ass whooping to the highest degree and um my thumb are in the cell and i'm talking to my bucket and he's like bro you need to fucking get some help so since my thumb was broken and dislocated and the bone was like coming a little bit out it started to get had staff infection on it and was turning like greenish oh you could lose your whole hand yeah
Starting point is 01:01:57 and I'm leaking out of my eye and I could go blind from my eye like if in fights like that's why they stop it because the can make you blind and my ear is bleeding and I'm just I'm fucked up but I have this this false ego and I'm like uh I ain't going nowhere dude he's like dude you're gonna lose
Starting point is 01:02:13 your fucking hand dude you don't have nothing more to prove bro he's like you're just fucking went through hell dude and you i mean come on bro think about you did you want to lose your fucking handle over this bullshit like all right so they i was just that you're you're you're trying to impress a bunch of guys that you will never see again yeah and don't give a fuck about you yeah and yeah you're 100% right and as so then i think officer came in or somehow i talked to him and he's like i was like i got to go to medical and he's like what the fuck i was like yeah i fell in the shower and he's like you know i'm gonna keep a real though i'm not you know i'm not a rat
Starting point is 01:02:44 right so you look he's like uh huh and i was like yeah i was like yeah man i'm fucking detoxed i fell in the shower i had a seizure you know and he's like in your hand he's like what you've been here like a month now almost like we're however long you're detoxing like it doesn't make sense you know and he's like uh whatever so they bring me down and uh they dude the craziest shit is like they're like tell it they so they got a chair let me remind so so he's like just tell me what happened dude tell me what happened right sorry but just tell us dude let's get him the fuck out of there and i go i fell in the shower bro come on bro you come on, man. Why are you even asking anymore? So he's like, all right. So they're like,
Starting point is 01:03:19 just sit here for a minute. We'll get you some help. And they put you in what's called, it's like this black chair. And the more you move, the more, and they could wheel you. And it gets like this to the point of tight. And they're putting me in this with the broken hand. And I'm bleeding everywhere. And I'm like, what the fuck? And it keeps tightening it up. And I can't move. And they're wheeling me around. Like, tell us. And they're showing pictures of each inmate. And I'm like, I can't see shit. Dude, I failed. What are y'all doing? I need help. And finally, a captain, a corporal came in there. And they're like, what the fuck are you guys doing, man? Take this kid to medical, dude.
Starting point is 01:03:48 So they go and they took me to the, I think they, I don't know if I, I went to outside medical. Yeah, I went to outside medical and it was like the local hospital because my thumb was so, the bone was out and the stitches, they didn't have the type of care they needed. And I remember going there and they were trying to snap my finger back into place with the bone. They finally get it back. They wrap it up and I get the stitches and I had a staff infection on. the bone the bad my knee ribs broken nose broken just fucked up i had a something with not a bone in my ear but something got inside my ear and it had to put like a fluid out of it it was it was a rough one
Starting point is 01:04:27 dude and uh so i get they put me on the west side wing which is the medical so i think i'm to do easy time now all right like i'm like i'll just heal up be all right nope that's florida they love this violence in the state system at least and uh i'm in there and i'm taking a shit And I'm already learned how to to do everything, you know, shit. And like I have one, like you have your short, like you don't have both of your shorts on your ankles. You got one off in case you got to stand up. And this is an open bay. It's medical.
Starting point is 01:04:56 So like, you're really not expecting violence in there. And I'm taking a shit in the thing. And all of a sudden, dude walks up and punches me right on the shitter. And I'm having pretty much my first butt-naked fight. And we're fighting right here, rolling around on this dirty floor. And, you know, the guards monitor or the officers monitor. the medical wing a lot more than any other unit because, you know, it's a medical wing and people die or they have seizures. So they have to, they can get a lot of lawsuits for not doing it. So they
Starting point is 01:05:24 came in real quick and broke it up. And it turned out it was one of the dudes that jumped me in that whole chaos. And he happened just being there. I don't know if they sent him there or whatever happened. So that happened. And we fought. And eventually I healed. And I got sent to another wing and I fought maybe two or more, three or more times, probably, but same dudes, the whole crew of them. And finally, it's my day to go to court and take my time. I had been here now, a little bit over a year now, maybe 14, 15 months, and including the Brower from with the Chomo and now to here. And I'm finally getting ready to go.
Starting point is 01:05:55 And I have a lawyer and I'm like, all right, cool. Because my mom actually was like, listen, you need to go to president. You need to learn your lesson. But I'll get you a lawyer. So she gets me, Mr. Magoo, literally do look like Mr. McGoo. I thought he was blind I really did dude and he's like yeah
Starting point is 01:06:12 I think we should go to trial I go dude they got me on camera kicking in the door what are you talking about and he goes well what about a open plea open plea that's how he talking open plea open like I'm like what open plea and I'm like dude what do you talk he literally just looked just like
Starting point is 01:06:30 Mr. Magoo the uh what's like Neil uh whatever that comedian's name is with the white hair and uh I was like open please I started like having flashbacks again And he's like well dude It's either we go to trial and we explain why you shouldn't or you do the I'm like I'm kind of screwed and I was like well what's the state offering 17 years
Starting point is 01:06:48 So I'm like So I gamble I say I'll do another open plea let's go And I go I'll get time served for the Broward right and this he goes yeah Yeah I go okay you know but obviously I'm just like trying to compartmentalize yeah So we go to court finally and I'm in there now and I'm an adult now, and they're reading my, you know, I have a horrible history, history in the jail. This is a different judge, though?
Starting point is 01:07:13 Yeah, I'm in a whole different county now, and this is Palm Beach, and this is for the case where I was robbing with the girl who was in the informant. Yeah, you kicked in the door. Yeah. And so with her and I, or she had already, like, put a sworn statement on me, took her time. She had been gone home already probably about three or four months into her thing, so like a year ago. And from that time, a year prior. So I'm like, so they got to stay. I'm like, I'm fucked. This is it. And so I go there and it's just my dad and I, my dad's in the, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:46 like the area where the civilians can go and we're there. And I'm talking to the lawyer and he's like, I think we're going to be the same situation. We're going to be right here, man. And I'm thinking, like this man can't, he looks here, but he's really trying to look here at my file. Like literally Mr. Magoo. And the state goes up and they say, your honor, we just want to know. know or he asked what do you guys recommend he gives me the whole thing you know i can send you you up to 47 years in prison based upon did or i can give you the same same spiel again and i was like yes sir yes sir and uh so this he goes i want to hear from the state first and then we'll hear from you guys so the state goes what what do you saying so i'm thinking they're going to
Starting point is 01:08:20 just 17 years is what they're going to do that's the worst case scenario i'm thinking maybe and that's what the that's what my lawyer told me but i i'm like okay i can do 17 maybe well i thought the 47 he could but but he's like they either are going to to go with my recommendation the state's recommendation are somewhere in the middle okay so i'm thinking the worst in my i'm just probably compartmentalizing it again knowing that but when he said 47 years i felt like i had to take a shit right there in my pants right but i'm just like whatever being stoic and i'm thinking the state's going to come out with the seven he's like i already talked to him he's going to recommend the 17 and again you know and this is you know i learned the system the hard way
Starting point is 01:08:58 and uh and he goes uh i'm going to tell you this we want to offer we want to offer him 32 years in prison. He's been armed robbery, armed robbery, and he's always causing violence. He's caused violence in the jail. He's caused violence in the youth offender prisons. He's been through the youth systems. He's been through the boot camps. He's been through the programs. He goes, this kid has been basically raised in the state. You know, we brought in, and he brings in a officer, who's officer Wallace, and he's like, and this guy I can tell you, who he was a sergeant when I was in that program. And he goes, I basically raised this guy right here, Viking here, I've raised Jeremy here, and he goes, he needs to go to prison for as long as possible.
Starting point is 01:09:38 He will re-offend. And I'm like, they brought in, Jesus. Yeah, dude, it's fucked. And so, but again, I'm being stoic. Or maybe I just numb, dude. I don't even know what's going. I'm just like, whatever. And that's how I'm like just, I just remember feeling nothing.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Like, this is like, it was one of those things in life, like I said, where it's like, this is all that matters. There's nothing else in the world that matters right now except this. this second you know what i mean no problems has ever existed anything in the this is it so i'm just like oh shit so then my uh my lawyer speaks and you know the state's like you know he's he's you know 30 years you know we're willing to go maybe 28 maybe you know i'm just like so my i'm like he's like well um we did degree on 17 your honor since about you i'm like uh-huh so i realized I, from my previous experiences, and now I'm a little older and wiser. You're better off talking for yourself.
Starting point is 01:10:36 So I say, it's just, Your Honor, can I speak? Yeah, I go, I go, because I really, I got to take control of this situation. I go, Your Honor, can I speak? And he goes, are you sure? You know, he's giving me the rundown of what could happen and it could be used against it. And I said, yes, sir. I mean, at this point, you know. So I go, sir, I know I have to go to prison.
Starting point is 01:10:52 I'm not asking to not go to prison. I'm 22 years old right now. I know I have to go to prison. I know I've been raised in the system. I know I'm wrong. 100% all I ask is that I can get out before I'm 35 that's it sir so I can have somewhat of a life he's like all right respect it you have anything to say ask my dad my dad's like just no man I love my son he's a good kid and I also know he does have to do time but I would like to you know spend some
Starting point is 01:11:17 of my the rest of my life I have left as I have kidney failure with him okay cool so they go and he's like let me review everything and it was like the longest 10 minutes of my life and it's like like tell him about the other case with the file with the guy that he's like he's like nah don't say nothing I'm just like I'm just like let's do it let's just run it you know I'm fully committed now and I'm just ready to face it you know and so finally after like 10 minutes it felt like forever and he's like uh all right um you know he's saying I made my decision and I sentence you and he's like taking his time he goes hold on we need some more information about this armed robbery so another 20 minutes
Starting point is 01:12:00 go by. He's reading the entire armed robbery case from the original one when I was a juvenile. I guess they didn't put that in there from when I robbed the drug dealer when I was on house arrest as a, as a, when I went like the like the first case I ever had or the second case that sent me to the level A program where I brought the guy over. So he's reading that. He's like, wow, you brought someone to the house on house arrest. Like I can't even sentence you to house arrest. Like, huh. I'm like, I'm like, it's all away. So I'm just sitting there waiting to go, this is it. This is my life. And he finally goes, all right. I made my decision. State. I heard your, heard yours, you know, everybody, blah, blah. And he goes,
Starting point is 01:12:35 tells me, talks to me. He's like, stand up. And, you know, you made this. He gives me the whole rundown again. Did you know what you're doing? You know everything. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. He goes, I sentence you. And I'm just waiting for it to six years in the Department of Corrections. And I go, oh, thank God. Thank God. But I don't honestly or anything. And I'm just like, good. And I go to to my lawyer, I go and ask him for that time served, you know. And he goes, can he have uh he goes absolutely not he goes that was for a whole different case in a whole different county you ain't getting none of that so i ended up doing seven years on a six year case okay so you know so but like to me i'm relieved you know what i mean i mean and i've all you know i spent
Starting point is 01:13:15 pretty much my whole life already locked up and open police we're working out for you oh i never again you know but uh so i go and i get there and they put me in the unit where you wait to go to prison and it takes about two weeks And they take you and, you know, you get on the bus, you go to the reception center. Now, this is probably where things, this is probably the craziest shit that I ever experienced in my life. And I know that sounds crazy. Yeah. Because this was like some kamikaze missions where, like, the way the Florida department, I don't know how it is now,
Starting point is 01:13:51 but the way the state system is, it was just like a gladiator, like shit. Like they literally get off on the violence and the amount of corruption and the dope that's coming in there and the cell phones and the CEOs that like if they don't like you, they'll put you in the cell with notorious or a right booty bandit, you know, and they'll have you guys fight in the cell and confinement 15, 20 minutes, no air condition. I mean, it's rough. You know what I mean? So, you know, I get there. I'm hearing the stories, but I've been through this already. I've been through the system and I'm like the number one draft pick is young kids, stay raised in shape. and every organization is trying to get me, but, you know, I'm not trying to do all that right now.
Starting point is 01:14:30 And finally, I'm going through South Florida Reception Center. Then they send me to Orlando Reception Center. And the higher you get in Florida, the Panhandle, the worst time you're going to do. Because the Panhandle is the most – that's where they send the worst or the worst. And at that time, at least. And so all the reception centers is South Florida, which is Miami. You have Central Florida, which is Orlando, then Lake Butler, which is Jacksonville, than Washington, which is literally on like Pensacola, and then you go to your main camp there
Starting point is 01:14:59 in the panhandle. So I'm in a whole different area, or time zone and 12 hours from my house, and I'm hearing stories. You're like, man, you better hope you don't go to HCI. That is, it's like literally walking over the dead bodies. And I'm like thinking like, nah, you know, so I'm on the last thing. And of course, that's where I go. I get there, put my stuff down. And it's like, first they do all the, you know, intake, they're looking through all your shit. you see them they just beat the shit out of an inmate for just even mouthing off and i'm like okay this is this is for real so i get there and there's like you can just feel the tension here this is not a game any this isn't youngsters this is in the jail the fit fight like this is i could just see that it's just
Starting point is 01:15:39 a cloud of hell i feel it you know and i get to my unit and immediately put my stuff down get situated and the dude and he's like what's up dude like you bang you know what what's up and he's asking me what I'm in here for. And he's like trying to confirm it. I guess he confirms it with the CEO or whatever. My paperwork's good, whatever. And he's like listening to who, you know, we're part of this group. And then another. So like all these organizations are coming up to me. And it's, it's always mental warfare. Like it's even asking for a cup of coffee. You know, they could ask once, twice and say, oh, you ain't going to give us a cup now. Oh, you know, and that turns in. So like, I'm very well, uh, I'd say, groomed in this world as I grew up in
Starting point is 01:16:19 the state system state race and a dude comes up to me that i've known through the travels and he's been here already for a while and he's like listen bro you know he's like this organization is fighting with this organization they're extorting all the white dudes that aren't part of any gangs or clicks dude he's like this group is going with this he's like that CEO is he is is corrupt he'll get you hit they're doing hits they're doing this it's full on war he's like here's a knife you know we'll be out working out that and he's not part of affiliate he's just politicking you know and I'm like to it here we go and so I get to the yard and I'm finding out what's going on and you just see just there's stabbing's going on just chaos coming on
Starting point is 01:17:02 so the first incident I get in was probably I'd say three weeks of me being there and my my bunk mate my cellmate he worked in the kitchen and he was like selling whatever he was selling out of there he was getting metal objects and sandwiches whatever he would to hustle and as you know and other people know in prison if you become whoever your friend is it's not just who you are but if something happens to him and you do not protect like react like if someone tells on him or steals from him and and or he gets jumped and you just let it happen you're next you're just as you're going to be targeted because it shows you're weak you're not loyal it's it's just part of the politics where i was at at least and i guess a guy told on him about the sandwiches and this guy was more confused than a billy goat on astral turf you know he didn't know if he wanted to be the head or he or crib or this big old white
Starting point is 01:17:55 dude jacked steroid just walking around and I guess he ended up getting him locked up in like a real slime ball way where he was like man get this dude out the kitchen he's fucking with my hustle right so I get told that and I feel the pressure especially being young and I told myself I will never be a victim like that again that ass weapon I took out I'll never go through that shit again And so I catch him coming out, and I just come and straight hit him. And I remember his tooth being in my hand. And I was scared to death when I hit him because he's bigger than me. And I was just like, whatever.
Starting point is 01:18:27 But I just, the fear of ever going through that bullshit again, I told myself. So I went in there with that mentality of I will never let that shit happen again. I will strike first. Wherever it happens, it'll happen. And I hit him. And he comes like he's going to fight me. And he just kind of like is wobbling. and then he just turns off and starts running towards the CEOs.
Starting point is 01:18:48 And we both get cuffed up. I get sprayed and they take us to confinement. And as we're walking, this dude is covered with blood. You know, I got blow in my hand. So everyone sees this. And they're like, holy shit. You know, this jit. They call him, like JIT, you know.
Starting point is 01:19:02 And they're like, look at it, man. Super Jit. Look at him. Look at that dude. He fucking heard of that. So everyone's like expecting now. I'm here this. So I go to confinement.
Starting point is 01:19:09 And first you go to AC, which is administrative confinement. Or, yeah, administrative confinement. where you go to the kangaroo court and they go all right you know what you did and and basically uh you know they have like a captain as the judge and right so he goes we're charging you with battery on an inmate and uh we're going to sentence you to four months in confinement boom right and i go all right cool and i get back to the cell before they take me in my cell he's like oh you're fucked dude four months dude so i didn't really understand what he was saying i get to my my unit and they get on the other side and in confinement it's like a butterfly it's an h dorm and it's set up like a like a like
Starting point is 01:19:48 the letter h where you got the like the catwalk there and you got cells all the way through and uh your lockdown 24 seven in florida like you might shower maybe two times a week if you're lucky right um obviously there's no air conditioning and you could go to yard but they might call the little dog cage maybe once a month so it's 24 seven and you're not getting any can't even have a book you don't it's it you don't get shit and it's like the hardest time i had to do and not so much because of those situations i mean the toilet paper i ended up having to wipe my ass with my bed sheet and i ended up for real washing all your clothes in the toilet because dude they they go and they have like maybe like a handful of toilet paper
Starting point is 01:20:36 one roll for 96 men up there to last one roll so like you have one little piece so by the end of when you got to turn in your linen, whenever they come collect it, I have like a, it looks like a baby's like this big, but yeah, it's wild. dudes are, they're getting themselves back there. COs are throwing inmates off the top tier. Now, in disciplinary confinement, you have other unmanageable inmates in that unit. Some are like CM control management, one, two, three. Some are Chomo that are housed alone because they've been and hurt.
Starting point is 01:21:07 And you got disciplinary, unmanageable inmates like I was at the time. and what they were doing is um basically i don't know if they were getting hits on these people or what was happening but you know a ceo would come and talk to you and and say i talked to such and such and you know showers like we're going to accidentally put you in that cell over there or sometimes they would just put someone in your cell and they would gamble on it knowing it would cause issues so the first situation that i got caught up with was there was a chomo a child A piece of shit, Chomo, and he had some very, very heinous fucking charges. And he would always be fucking talking shit through the thing to everybody, like, motherfucker, like, I do what I want.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Like, you can't, all you, like, almost like, come on, bro, you're self-warier, huh? So the COs, he kept writing up the COs, and I had got a, like, a kite, a letter from another inmate that I was very close with. And he wrote it in piss, he urine. And for people that don't know, that's, you know, once you dry it out, you can hold a little. little bit of heat to it and it'll the soot will turn into what it says flush it and it basically said it's okay basically as soon the guy that's going to talk to me is okay ceo comes to me he's like what's up viking he's like listen you're gonna accidentally be putting that cell he has to go you know we got you you talk to what's his name yeah we're good so
Starting point is 01:22:28 they all right pack it up you know and it's cm so you're your your uh celly has to go against the wall face down face the wall while you cuff up through the sally port and i never forget i'm going in there and this dude has hit, like I said, I never regret anything I did to people who hurt women and children. And he's definitely hurt, he checks all the boxes as the worst of the worst. And as I'm going in there, he's like, you can't put him in here. I can't have a salve. Like all that tough shit went out real quick. And I get in there and, you know, I beat the shit out of him, just dog him out. And they don't come back for 15 minutes. And they come in there and they got, I didn't know they had to put a whole show on. And they come in there and they
Starting point is 01:23:06 spray me beat my ass a little bit rough me up throw me in the burning showers and they put me in the cell add four months to my time in confinement on top of it but somehow i got blessed with a little bit of money and whatever and uh but in my mind at that age i'm that dude you can't tell me not i just yeah i just did that you know what i mean and and i felt proud i got rid of one of these chomo piece of shits and on top of it like I'm showing not knowing like how deep I'm getting into this world so then um I would say three four weeks go by and you know you're seeing it's insane back there it's like they almost put the most like demonic officers back there on purpose I believe and a lot of cell extractions where like they'll come in with the 1950 can I mean it's just horrific the seals are
Starting point is 01:23:58 throwing inmates off the tier like I was saying saying it was a seizure they're beating them the death and it was just nonstop chaos and you got guys in there that are gunners I don't you know yeah we've explained yeah so you guys know what gunners is to watch and it's so bad in there that they'll put a magnet on these guys' cells window because they just can't stop yeah and you'll look through the ground and the little bit of space between the cell and the floor there you just see a shadow like that like you're like what so they uh end up putting a dude in my cell right who is uh i guess there for one reason and one reason only they were they gamble on us at the time you know they're like it's fucked up back there and he comes in there
Starting point is 01:24:40 and immediately we just start getting after it and we fought for 15 fucking minutes dude and i didn't know that this was i thought this dude was just like like trying to like me up and and whatever for whatever reason i didn't know what it was but i later found out that the officers the gED teachers that they gamble on us it is insane and 15 minutes of fighting, blood, sweat, and it's not, you know, it's violence. It's not fighting, you know, so, you know. No, no, 15 minutes should fight, like a minute long. What I realized in prison was if you fight for a minute, that's a fucking eternity.
Starting point is 01:25:13 It's eternity, so, you know, when you see when, you know, five or ten minutes, like that's, that's, that's like both guys have to stop and breathe for a little bit and then go back out of it. You're right. And it was like, yeah. And like you said, there's no, like, ring. you're not like moving around and it's just head it's just a straight like just you there's nowhere to go it's just step forward and we fought it was just sweat and we're slipping in it just boom boom boom boom the COs come in there and they grab us both beat the shit out of us and they ended up my fucking I had like scar tissue still here and it busts open they fucking hold the pepper spray in my head
Starting point is 01:25:50 and they're spraying it in my head dude like not my head but right in the cut on my eye my eyebrow and they're just squeezing and squeam, I'm burning, ah, they're kicking his ass, you know, and it's not, it's probably five seconds each can, kicking the shit out of us. And then they bring us in the hot, scolding shower and it's burning on us again. And it's like, boom, put us back in the cell. So I ended up staying back in confinement going through that situation. And I probably had about four incidents where I gladly will admit, I fucked up some Chomos and I fought one other dude that they sent at me. But a lot of it was always going after Chomos. From what I heard, a little Allegedly they were they were taking money to go after these dudes from a family's victim or whatever it was. And that I gladly would raise my hand to do every single time. Well, I know in California that this was fucking 20 years before I got locked up that like something like 15 or 20 officers in California state prisons got arrested. Yeah. Because they were they were putting gang members into, you know, and they had the controlled where they're not walking anybody. They're one door is open, another door.
Starting point is 01:26:53 And then they just tell you, go into this. sell or go in here they'd open another hallway so you and they could arrange it without being there to where suddenly boom two rival gang members are in the same that's that's that's they lock it and then they just bet like i'm telling you he's got it and they had him on film and everything oh dude so that's that's that's you're 100% right that's very similar to what was going on there except the way they got caught was was so fucked up so i got out of confinement after almost about eight months basically and it was like uh you know it was like holy shit Like, I, you know, and I'm back on the comp.
Starting point is 01:27:27 People are like, dude, I thought you, like, left. So I'm like, oh, I'm here. So I'm back on there and, you know, a little situation pops off. And it's basically like a comic, the officers are so brutal back there. And it's in this, in this camp, dude, like they're just, and it turns into like a kamikaze mission where we know it's a losing fight. We know, but all we have is the fight. So we just kind of just all snapped in the dorm. They're just constantly fucking with us, ripping our pictures up, just.
Starting point is 01:27:54 and we turned in flip the dorm upside down and you know i went to confinement for for this little riot thing that happened in there and now i'm prepared for confinement it's fucked up and i go to a new a new like a unit and i'm in confinement now straight there and they sent me like i want to say 30 days or 20 something something around 30 days about a month and i already know what to expect in confinement and um because i wasn't the initiator of the riot but i participated in it so i got something like disobeying a verbal order some dumb shit but anyway they sent me there but i know how I go. I'm not going to get out of confinement. And I remember like this is where I cut off every single person in my family. I stopped writing them. The girl that was riding with me for a little while,
Starting point is 01:28:32 I just cut off everybody, return to sender because I didn't think I'd ever go home. Like I saw what was going on here and I was like, I'm never going to go home. And we're back here and they're doing like you, like you said, like they're putting members like certain organizations that they know will fight or they're making it happen. It's constantly violence and chaos. And then the Chomo's are just getting the shit beat out of them, like left and right, throwing off tears, just just kicked their heads in. But like you said, a lot of gang members or rivals are getting putting the cell together and they're just going at it, you know, 15 minutes.
Starting point is 01:29:07 And then they'll come back, pepper spray them and redo it. It's like rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat. Except this is where they up is there was a dude named Ricky Martin, not the singer. That was just his name. And he was also a little bit more confused than a Billy Goat on Nashville turf. He didn't know really, he was 22. doing maybe two or three years and there was some drug related charges and he didn't know how to do time and he didn't he wanted to be cool but he wasn't tough but he was it was just a young kid mixed up
Starting point is 01:29:35 you know so he would mouth off to the officers but this was a place where you know this was like like clan land man like they they didn't like me because I was from south florida you know what I mean just because of that dude and uh he would be real like reckless just talking shit so instead of them just giving him a little asswhip and they bring him to confinement i'm in confinement everyone's there and there's a notorious and you know anybody can check this out on google i mean there's a notorious you know booty bandit an inmate guy who takes their manhood just he's killed two people in place he's a savage he's known for that you can't house with anybody and their idea of teaching this young kid a lesson who's about to go home in six months is put him in the cell with
Starting point is 01:30:16 that dude so you could see rickie he's begging not to go in there begging beg and we're all looking like oh shit and then you know And, like, this is where I was like, man, I'm never going to make it home. Like, this is like that moment where I realized I was like, this is my life forever. And so they put him in the cell with him, and he's begging and screaming and pleading. And then you hear the dude saying, shut the fuck up, dude. And the officers are laughing, just pushing him in there. And he gets in there.
Starting point is 01:30:39 And, you know, we all can't really see what's going on because he covers the window up with toilet paper. But you hear the beating. You hear him getting assaulted in the worst way possible. You know, he's getting his manhood taken just, and you hear the beatings. And every time he's saying some type of, some racial injustice that happened. And he's saying that name of the person that was killed by a police officer, whatever, whatever it was. I don't know exactly what he was saying. But he was saying a name, like, say, like, Malcolm X or whatever, as he kicked his face in.
Starting point is 01:31:06 And, like, just beating him and beat, it's run on for 15 minutes. And, you know, they come in there. And he was brutally beaten and, you know, rape rape to death, you know. And they took the other guy out. And he just got, I think, life sentence, maybe. I don't even know. He was already doing life. So, you know, whatever it was.
Starting point is 01:31:28 But, you know, but whatever it was. He was never going home anyway. So that was just another, whatever. And it was an obvious hit, you know, that, I mean, the guy was not supposed to be in there. And the family is calling. Like, what's going on? Like, where's my brother? He's supposed to be, you know, they find out finally he's dead.
Starting point is 01:31:45 And they're like, what the fuck? They go. And they're like, how the fuck could this happen? and so now the FDLE come in and they're investigating and they start shipping everybody out of confinement putting people on the compound basically like they don't want anybody to be there you know right and uh they're shutting it down too so like half of the wing got shut down people shipped to other camps and you know it was fucked up and I ended up being one of those that were shipped to another camp and like because they didn't want the people that were in confinement to ever say whatever
Starting point is 01:32:19 happened because they were being investigated right two of the officers were arrested one committed suicide and i think the other one just resigned you know they don't you know there's nothing to happen every yeah yeah it's just it's just unreal but that that's that was the real deal so i was like okay this this is getting serious here so i go to another prison and it's called washington which is a brutal spot uh washington correctional institution it's in pensacola and i'm still in confinement I get out of confinement and I meet some people that I know from where I grew up and, you know, we're talking and they're telling me about what's going on here, the politics because every prison in Florida, it's not like how it is in Cali or other places. It's like a different country
Starting point is 01:33:00 every time. Like this might be this gang's, you know, this race or you just never know. There's no set thing. There are rules and things that are unwritten, but as far as who runs what or who's got this, you just never know what you're getting into. So they're kind of giving me the rundown and what's up and okay so we're working out going about our business and uh this is where i run into when i talked to my friend to this day he's locked up his name is spawn i gave him the nickname it's like a little hell spawn he was doing three years for dealing and stolen uh property and he's like hey man can i work out with you guys man you know and he seemed all right he was a little closer to my age so and i kind of i had like knew what he probably was going through as i had went through the system and i know i
Starting point is 01:33:41 had been now a couple years and uh i was like yeah man we run as long as you got good pay And we run him. Make sure he's good. Yeah, stolen property. Cool. So he's working out with us. And, you know, one day he pulls me to the side. And he's like, listen, dude. He's like, there's a dude in the dorm. And, you know, he put his finger in my ass. Like, like, I'm like, what? I, this is prison, though. Like, nothing ceases to ever amaze you, dude. And I go, what? He goes, yeah, man. He goes, what? He goes, what? He goes, yeah, man. He goes, no, how can I do that, bro? What? Then then what? What if I lose the fight, bro? you know i was like all right so we had talked about it and he told me the story the dude tried him in the shower like did a little fucking swipe on him like tried the fuck out of him and dude was a notorious like what he does is he goes after a weaker inmates and spom was a little short skinny dude who you look like harry potter basically right and uh he was like man i'm not doing it and i at that i couldn't resonate with it because i never went through that but being jumped and And everything I went through hit with locks and, you know, everything I went through in confinement, I never, I never be a victim.
Starting point is 01:34:50 I don't care if I have to do a life sentence or whatever happens. I will never be a victim again. So I understood what he felt, that rage, that pain, the violation. And plus, you have to live here. Right. You know, so we would talk more. And a lot of inmates would say that, you know, like, oh, man, you know, you'd be home soon, but I explain. This is home, dude.
Starting point is 01:35:10 This is home now. Like, this is where we eat. This is where we sleep. this is where we shit like you know what are you going to do get abused for the next years and say oh when i get home and then go live with that that shame and of what happened to you you know and i'm like you guys got to stop thinking like that man this is home you have to accept this is reality dude it's not like you're doing you know you got years to do this man has been tried and you know it is what it is if this was anybody else so they're kind of like yeah you're right
Starting point is 01:35:34 so we were like coming together with with a plan and like you know this is a long time ago and it's done with and everything but he wanted to get him in the chow hall and he wanted everybody to see it right this is a little skinny kid doing three years right and yeah you know three years dude and i want to you know and i got it because like if you lose the fight then what you're screwed literally or it's a riot it's like there's it's a catch 22 or you don't do anything and then the worst happen it's it's you lose or you lose dude so you know he took it like dude i'd rather be in the way he described as a warrior than you know nothing hurts worse than being a coward you can lose a fight you can get tried but being a coward dude that that is the worst feeling that never goes
Starting point is 01:36:21 away and you know he's met he had a pregnant or she just had a baby and so so like it was sad to see this but at the same time i i get it you know this is the world that they create for us so um in order to get any type of weapon into the chow hall you can't really get through you have to go through a metal detector they strip search us it's a higher level level security prison and we reach out to somebody that works into the chow hall another inmate and have him put a knife with a magnet on it underneath the um like where you get your your juice or whatever from right and the plan is you know because i was like brother you have to do your own work here you know like i'm not you know i got your back if anything jumps off but this is only you and he's
Starting point is 01:37:04 like no i know and he was like i never like you would never expect somebody to to be this determined but That's why in prison, you never know who you're fucking with. You know, it could be the most quiet, chill guy that it'll cut your throat in your sleep. And we, you know, the day arrives and it's like, whole shit, man, like my adrenaline's pumping and we get through there. And I was like, I got the green light that the knife was there. We see the guy and there's like four of us that are on like backup duty in case something happens, you know, he fumbles or whatever. So he doesn't get jumped or anything. So we make sure we walk to the juice.
Starting point is 01:37:37 I walk with him. The knife's there. I tell him, like, I give him the sign that is there. He grabs a knife. He's walking up, like, he's got his thing. He just immediately, like, the rage and anger just explodes in him. And he starts hitting the dude. And dudes are trying to, like, get up.
Starting point is 01:37:51 And I'm kind of there just, like, causing, like, a little, like, back, you know, to that. But he's hitting the dude. Like, like, you can hear it. You could smell the blood. I smell the blood to this day. Like, it was just everywhere. People are slipping footprints. It's just everywhere.
Starting point is 01:38:04 And this dude's, like, intestines or whatever, guts are, like, kind of coming out. And the CEO is immediately. jump on it and he kind of like was like, what? And he cuts us a CO's arm, dude. Yeah. And so they detain everybody and the dude's guts were out and he ends up getting a staff infection
Starting point is 01:38:21 almost goes into a coma. He lives. You know, but since he had cut the CO's arms and did a brutal stabbing in front of the whole unit, dude got 27 years onto his sentence when he came back. For a three-year sentence turned into 30.
Starting point is 01:38:36 Yeah. And that's the first thing. fucked up thing about Florida is like the COs are they put you in a lot of bad spots now obviously you know this he had really you know he this really wasn't on the COs but they put you in spots where they know what had happened to spawn right and they put that man in the cell the unit with him so it you know what I mean like to almost add insult to injury not say it would happen regardless so you know he's he gets 27 years and he never flinched he never flinched at at all. And the main reason he got it was for slicing the officers. Those were the main
Starting point is 01:39:12 things for the, uh, because of that. And obviously the stabbing, but they gave him the most amount of time for the officers, which is, you know, yeah, you know, crazy. But so I talked to him pretty regularly and, uh, he doesn't regret it one bit. He's actually, he's a soldier with it. You know, he's, he's, he's in lockdown CM. He's, you know, he's behind that wall for the rest of his sentence probably. And, uh, from there, I did a little time in confinement, but nothing really, I mean, I hadn't, you know, I was just there, you know. And, uh, and, uh, he's, you know, and, um, and, Um, I get shipped down south to, uh, Bell Glade prison and they, Martin and Belgrade, it was fucking crazy over there, but not crazy in a way that, uh, like, it was like, I was
Starting point is 01:39:52 coming back from like, I was shell shocked, dude, like, I just couldn't believe this. And I go there and I walk into the unit. I'm now transferred down south, you know, this is almost by Miami. So it's like a whole different vibe, you know, and this is the first time I saw like pounds of drugs, cell phones. Dude's got PlayStation portables. You got COs that are in there fucking inmates for money. I mean, dudes are making thousands and thousands of dollars. The officer, lieutenants, will come in there and drop whatever you want in there.
Starting point is 01:40:20 I'm like, holy shit. It was just, it was like, and I saw a lot of fist fights there, but it was, it was the corruption, that it was just unbelievable. Every teacher, everybody was just making money. And there'd be fights over who controls what, but for the most part, it was a only situation because there was so much money to be made. that unless you really have an issue with somebody, you know. And that's what that kind of was. And it was the easiest time I did, even though it was the most corrupt place, but I was able to kind of decompress from everything I had went through up there in the panhandle.
Starting point is 01:40:54 And I got real, you know, I always read, I always was disciplined, always worked out. And I just kept getting a little bit deeper in the knowledge. I didn't have to worry about, like, where I was that. I mean, always worry, but dudes were chasing the high and so much money and so much drugs that like my biggest thing was I was sneaking sandbags of to do weighted pull-ups on the stairs and shit like I was really just getting into maturing now you know and uh we're in there and things are going good and I end up causing a hunger strike because I was in a unit and something happened where they were going to give a guy an award for what he was doing as far as a re-entry
Starting point is 01:41:33 and they were going to bring pizza for us and the inmates stole our pizza. and we did a whole hunger strike and had us not go there for like the chow hall and it was a whole thing with the news and they ended up shipping me back up to the panhandle now and I'm like fuck man it was like going back to prison is what it felt like and so I get to a homes
Starting point is 01:41:56 homes correctional and I'm on the main line the main unit and right here is where I run into my friend he's a he's a gangster disciple white dude and you know it's very Florida is like as far as the gang politics like there there is racial stuff and there's a lot of but it's it's like you have white crips white bloods white gds you know you got white latin kings but you have the gangs and they're much they're they're much more organized where i was at here but it's all different races in these different organizations which it was very like eye-opening to me i never knew that
Starting point is 01:42:27 and uh i saw my friend i grew up when he's like the high-ranking gd here and he's telling me like listen you know there's an organization called the cutthroats and they're from jacksonville and they're known for extorting people. That's their whole thing. They listen to you up. They don't say, hey, give me this. They cut you and take all your shit. And they'll extort your family at home.
Starting point is 01:42:47 I mean, there are some bad dudes. And a friend of mine, Flex, who I became very close with. He passed away recently. But anyway, he, picture six foot five. You ever seen Dustal Don with George Clooney? He's got the tribal, the negative. Like that crossed his arm, six, five. 250 pounds from Polk County and so he was like him and I we hit it off instantly and my friend
Starting point is 01:43:14 had gave me the rundown who's the GD's like dude they're distorting all dudes that aren't affiliated and you know be on your you know be on point so I'm like all right so immediately I'm in the dorm and he's we're talking to flex and we you know he's telling me he's like yeah man it's fucking bad here dude he's like they're stealing robbing everything like this and you know I'm like, all right, so it is what it is. So the first thing that I notice is that there's a dude named Inkey. He's a tattoo artist. And Inky is probably the softest dude I ever met in my life.
Starting point is 01:43:51 And these dudes are just slapping around, getting tattoos, taking all this money that people are paying for tattoos, all the gangs, right? And I remember him asking me, like, hey, man, how are you? I was like, dude, why are you letting these dudes fucking try you, bro? What the fuck is wrong with you? He goes, don't you see what's going on here, brother? And I go, what do you mean? He goes, these are the stupidest motherfuckers you ever see. They think they're bullying me, but I'm putting ink in their body.
Starting point is 01:44:17 He goes, you see this? This is hepatitis blood. This is fucking shit. Piss, this, this, this, this, and this. And he's just inking these dudes up, left and right. And it's like the old, like, Sun Tzu, like, be weak when you're strong and strong when you're weak type of saying. Like, he's pretending.
Starting point is 01:44:30 Like, he's like, I'm not a fighter like you, dude. I don't want to do all that bullshit. So I'll just pretend like they're extorting me. and I'm giving them every single one of them. I'm like, holy shit. He said, I call it the Black Widow. And I'm like, fuck, man. And CEOs were getting tattoos.
Starting point is 01:44:43 And I was just like, wow. But that also made me think, wow, this group, this organization is pretty crazy. Like, they're willing, they don't give a fuck. Like, they're willing to extort somebody that's putting shit in their body. So they'll do anything. So I would say there's probably about 50 people, probably they walked around that probably found out they had some shit later on in life for that. But, I mean, that's, I mean, you're bullying. the tattoo artist and it is what it is so he ends up getting shipped out whatever dudes were
Starting point is 01:45:11 getting massive infection it was crazy like like seeing all that like that was some real treachery you know i have a whole story about that but um to get into this situation he uh flex and i were like do like can you believe this shit man we got a tattoo guy poisoning all these people the ceos you got people like starting you got another friend to just stab somebody and like for over over like doing 27 you're like crazy shit dude like and like and And we're like, dude, we knew the day would come, you know, but we were just trying to work out and hope they, you know, they mind our business, but, and leave us alone, but they come up and they're like, listen, y'all are going to have to start paying rent. And it was one of those moments
Starting point is 01:45:49 we're like, who are you talking to, dude? And he's like, he's like, he pulls out his like knife and the shit was a fucking lawnmower blade. And he's like, oh, and one thing I'll say about my friend flex, you know, he was as solid as it gets, dude. If he was your friend, it didn't matter what it was dude he he he'll you know a lot of people talk that shit but he was had your back to the end and the dude pulls it out and he's like y'all run that shit right now and i guess flex told me later he's like the fact that he didn't you dude he wasn't gonna so flex hits him boom and immediately a whole thing pops off and we're getting jump boom boom boom boom i get hit right here a little like uh it was i found out later i didn't know i thought it was a punch and i feel like the the like
Starting point is 01:46:31 the like the warm and cold at the same time coming down and like oh shit and I'm like panicking but it's a whole chaos going on right now and it's all over some freaking oodles and noodles and and raymond noodles soups and honey buns right but it's the principal you know and uh like they say and flex is over there fighting they're all hitting him like little beast things he's getting hit locked on his face and you know i got stabbed and me and this dude and i are fighting and it's just getting crazy and the COs come in there they come in with their little squad and pepper sprays put us all down and like boom they take us away go to confinement, and I go in confinement, I have a cellmate, he leaves, I heal up, stitches,
Starting point is 01:47:12 everything my stabbed, I get like 20 days, whatever in confinement, and guess they put in my cell. Literally one of the dudes that was in part of the fight, him and I immediately, it was like literally as soon as the seal walked away and he uncuffed, we just went right after it. Another 15-minute fight of just pure, just and this and that, and this dude's another, another situation. but now I'm a little older and mature and I understand like, oh, I could end up spending the rest of my life in here over these COs entertainment
Starting point is 01:47:40 and where, but I have no choice. You know what I mean? This is where I started to say to myself like, I need to break this cycle, man, but I, you know, it was like, how, though? You know, I've built up all this bullshit already to where I have so many enemies, so much of a reputation that I have to withhold.
Starting point is 01:47:55 So anyway, we're in there fighting and I just remember thinking that like, fuck, man, this might be it where I spend the rest. We're going at it. doing, don't, don't, don't, do. And he's getting the better of me, but like that he runs out of his wind, dude. He has no endurance. And I'm hitting burpees by the thousands of day, like, just ready for this moment in confinement.
Starting point is 01:48:11 I know what's going on back here. So he gassed out, thank God, because if not, I would have got the shit beat out of me. And I end up like double leg, taking him down and just beating the shit out of him. COs come in, take us out. And, you know, another situation. Back there in confinement for about a few months, get out, going the main line, back at it again. So now I'm out of confinement, and it was like, in my mind, I'm really, like, starting to mature. But at the same time when prison, the second you start to say, I'm not like, you're looked at is weak, or he thinks he's better, you know, if you go into religion, or you're soft, or you're checking in, you know.
Starting point is 01:48:49 So it's like I'm trying to manifest a new life for myself and swerve away from all this evil that I've been groomed to live, but yet it's all I know. You know, so I'm slowly trying to manifest into a better person, you know, and I'm... How much more time do you have? I think I have at this time about two and a half years left. Yeah. So, I know. Yeah. And this was a blessing in disguise, I guess, this situation again, dude.
Starting point is 01:49:20 So I'm like, really just, like, manifesting a vision of I want to get out and I want to get into training, kickboxing. I want to compete. I want to put honor back in my name. I want to have a family. I want to have a, like... So I'm making these, this mind. And I ended up, you know, competing in 11 amateur fights and we'll get to that.
Starting point is 01:49:37 But so I'm putting together, I'm manifesting like a vision of a business, getting into a gym and training and just under like getting into it. But I'm also having to politic here and deal with the consequences that I've already created over the years of being state raised and enemies and just people that I've friend, you know. So as time goes on, I'm thinking like, oh, shit, man, I might be. to just get up out of here, man, get a transfer down south again and just chill, man, and make it home? Why just survive back to school when you can thrive
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Starting point is 01:50:26 Shop now at IKEA.ca. home and get certified as a trainer maybe like send in some some correspondent shit that it's like a it's like a prison ask and you will not receive you know and the thing about prison especially in florida is time doesn't exist only opportunity you know dudes will wait years dude to to get it motherfuckers and whether whether however it is you know they're you know they don't see the time as you know and this incident was really like, I was blessed here and got, I actually got to get away from this prison. So we're on the main line going to yard. And a friend of ours, mutual friend, it's Flex, and a few
Starting point is 01:51:11 of us are there. And he's telling us about this dude who, I guess, did some real bad shit to his sister out there. And he's part of, he's in a, he's in a, not, he's in a fucking gang. I don't know, he's in a, but he's a blood. That's what he is. He's a white dude. He's a blood. And I guess my friend, his sister, the white blood had did something, like beat the shit out of his sister. And they happened to be at the same unit at the same time. So he's like, I'm going to get at him, right? And this dude's a Mexican dude who is that the white who hurt this man's sister is a Mexican dude. So all his brothers and all, like, you know, a lot of the Mexicans, they stick together.
Starting point is 01:51:51 You know, they're tight, tight, you know, as you know. And when they found out, they're like, whatever you want to do. and this was like my friend and also like uh like bunky like area like in the same dorm basically and i'm like all right whatever you need bro i ride what you do so we go out there to yard and they're coming up an entire strategy and they're like look bro it's it's going to go down and on the yard you know you got the gun tower but you know when something's going to pop off but it's like uh you just see this group over here this race over here this you know everyone's everywhere and uh so you know the ceos are waiting they got their
Starting point is 01:52:25 guns in the tower and we're over here and it was like they had them by the racquetball court and he's and he asked for the one-on-one i guess they arranged it between the southern the mexican dude and the the blood however they rate and they start going at it but it soon starts to get closer and closer and turns into a full-on like little mini just brawl everyone's fighting and hit with log slicing and within i'd say 10 minutes the ceos are are shooting you know they got the gun tower and they got us all laying down get on the ground get on the ground yeah Yeah, exactly, dude. And I'll never forget this, man, the Mexican dude, he's next to, it's not the dude that beat his sister up, but it's one of the dudes that was involved with the fight, which to him, it is all the same, I guess, in the moment.
Starting point is 01:53:08 And we're all down, and they're kicking up knives and they're looking, and I'm on the, like, the racquetball court, or the handball court, and it's hot as shit, half on the grass, half on the handball court. And I look over, and I hear, and the Mexican dude is on the ground like this. stabbing him over and over while they're on the ground, just hitting him, hit him, and he's screaming, but he's, it's like, I've never seen a dude gets, and scream, but he's not, he's like, and then the voice comes out later,
Starting point is 01:53:37 and the, is just pouring out, and like the COC's what's going on, they get him under control, they kick it away, they beat the shit out of him, get him removed, and just get everybody away, but they keep us on the ground, and while I'm on the ground, the is just coming closer
Starting point is 01:53:52 and closer to my face, but I'm not trying, If I stand up, I'm going to get a shot or, you know, so I'm sitting there and just rolling all over my face, dude. And it was like they locked us all up, put us in confinement. And again, I'm in there. But this time, I get transferred quick out of there. I'm back down south. And at that moment, I'm going through the reception centers and I hit South Florida reception center. And South Florida reception center is in Miami.
Starting point is 01:54:21 And that's like, so the way Florida is designed is. So say you're going to go to a prison in South Florida, you've got to go to the reception center first, you know, or if you're going to go in central Florida, region one, two, three, you have a panhandle, you got to go to a reception center first. And what makes it so bad is now I'm short timing, you know, I got less than maybe 14 months now. And it's like you're in there with guys that are just getting in there that have 30, 40, 50 life sentences, you know, guys that are just straight and everything. and then you got guys with a year and a day. So you don't know who's who or what's what. And it's like a dungeon in there. You got to reach it.
Starting point is 01:55:00 There's rats this big. You got to reach into the wall to turn on the shower. There's no, like you're in the, like the cells or, there's no COs that are coming to save you. Like, if you're in a fucked up spot, dude, you'll get found in the morning. Like, it's bad back there. And this is when I just, I get into my cell and I'm putting my stuff down. And there's a Latin king dude that I knew, well, real respected dude, solid dude. And he's like, oh, man, you got fucking Freddie Krueger as your fuck, or Koober, whatever, the horror dude.
Starting point is 01:55:30 Freddie Krueger, yeah. Or Jason, Voorhees or whatever, yeah. He's like, that's your silly, bro. And I go, what? He's like, oh, yeah, dude. He's like, that motherfucker there, bro. And in my mind, I should be going home soon, man. But this is the energy you put out.
Starting point is 01:55:45 You put it out there. You're going to get what you're looking for. And I've been putting it out there for over a decade. And, you know, I can't be surprised that I keep falling in these situations that I put, put myself in and who knows if it's a hit from an officer who knows if this is a situation i just you just never know in florida it's it's the ceos are worst in the inmates and i was like what what do you mean he's like yeah dude in broward he's like uh he woke his roommate up he he's like it's time for breakfast and he's slicing his face and he's like he's psych he takes psych meds but in florida
Starting point is 01:56:13 there is no more like institutions where you know there's no mental institutions you just go to the camp or they give you medicine and he's a psych you know and and that's south florida it's a psych camp and he's just and it's like not everybody there has psyched problems but since it's a reception center so he's there and and he what he did in the jail was to get the nickname was his cellmate while he was sleeping saying it's breakfast time bro it's breakfast time bro hence you know freddie kruger waking him up with a nightmare so this latin king tells me he was a good friend of mine about everything about freddie kruger and what he's doing and he's psych and he's slicing people when they're sleeping and which is scary and he turns out to be my new cellmate in south florida where you can literally be in the cellmate in the
Starting point is 01:56:53 and they won't come find it to the next day. So I understand adversity builds character. And I had a lot of, you know what I mean? I had a lot of character building time in there. And, you know, nothing grows in a comfort zone, as they say. So I definitely had a lot of growth. I feel like none of this applies. You still don't get to stick me in a cell with a guy.
Starting point is 01:57:16 No, I agree. I agree. And I wouldn't sleep. Oh, so like, it was sleeping was out of the question. There was, it was, especially from what I knew, what I've been through before, there was no way we're going to, this is going to go down. There's no way it's not going to go down. Excuse me. And I basically just talked to the Latin King a little more and, you know, like we talked about earlier, like the laws of the universe, when you are raising your hand to do this fights and stabbings and constant chaos and robbing drug dealers and doing all this, you can't be surprised when this is in your life now.
Starting point is 01:57:51 You know, so I was not shocked. I was like, I don't know how to, like, it wasn't scared. It was like, I got to survive, but I was like, here we go again, you know. So I talked to the Latin King, and he helps me get a knife. And I'm only passing through. It's reception. So I'm not trying to be there too long. And unfortunately, I'm like, oh, here we go.
Starting point is 01:58:12 I'm going to be stuck in South Florida now forever. And I get in there. And, you know, it's very, you can't tell an officer because then you're, you're snitch, you're done. you're so and you can't not go in the cell because then you look like you're checking in and that but then it's like it's either that or you're going there with a maniac with people's face or you see him and then risk of life so it's a catch 22 you know regardless so i made the decision that i have to go in there and i'm going to hold this knife and just sit up and just maybe this guy changed his ways maybe he had enough adversity and group character or something do obviously the mindset was I'm going to stay up all night with a knife in my hand and make it to chow and see what happens. Or I'm just going to punch him in front of the officer and get moved out of there. Something I said, but I'm going to figure it out when it happens.
Starting point is 01:59:01 I'm going to read the room because people say a lot of things also, you know, and over the course of me being in prison, I've known that people will say something about somebody, get them attacked or hit up, and then you find out it was just their own person with vendetta. Right. But no, this motherfucker was crazy. Okay. And, yeah, so we go in there and I remember I'm sitting on my, my bunk, he's sitting there, and it's like, I'm in there, and I'm just, like, sitting up,
Starting point is 01:59:25 sitting up, and he's like, and he starts saying things, like, to himself and, like, kind of going off, off, and I'm like, huh? And he's like, what the fuck, man, you ain't going to eat the food, or he's just saying something to me like that. And I immediately, I'm like, fuck, I should have just punched him right when we got in here on the officers, but you know what? Here we go. It's too late for all that regret. So I get on the wall, and he's kind of by the door. And, you know, it's like a cell. So you only have, like, this much space, you know, and it's just straight collision and he's got a freaking and I got this little knife on me and it's like one's scared and the other one's glad he's scared because he's like inching at me and I'm like
Starting point is 01:59:59 like like trying to get it but I don't want to have to this dude but I don't want to get either so um it took about 30 40 minutes maybe longer of us like having a verbal exchange of him saying like a lot of crazy accusations like I'm stealing his food that I refuse to eat I'm poisoning him like things were getting crazy and it got to the point where okay here we go so then you know i'm on the wall he's by the door and we're at each other and he's reaching at me with trying to see me and i'm like trying to block it he's in my hand my hand you know and and like you can just see like little scars from like all over my hand just little red marks all over this one too just forever dude just little but i'm like like this and
Starting point is 02:00:40 he's not like i'm so happy that he's not really trying to do it he's like almost like scared like I said and I'm glad he's scared and I'm like damn do I hit him so I'm like getting him back with the knife but not really trying to me either because I'm going to go home soon but it is what it is so things are getting closer and closer and he's trying to you know on the face so now we're moving and I'm trying to him now and it's become now like a serious situation it was already serious but now it's like oh he's trying to come me now he's not to try to scare me and we're going at me slicing and we kind of like lock up and we're wrestling like this and his hands here I got the underhooks over like this and we fall boom and we're just
Starting point is 02:01:15 going after it going after it and by the grace of god we didn't get like no 15 20 minute thing a ceo happened to be doing their little walk by and immediately came out pulled us both out sprayed us called the unit and you know they wait a little while so like they have to wait for for a backup to come before they can just rush in there because obviously we have a fight there's weapon so i'm like holding him kind of like half on the floor half on the like ground or on the wall excuse me and it's like it's like this and he's trying to get me with this and I got the night and it's like and I'm just thinking like where is these fucking officers and and like and he's like trying he's got that like crazy strength and like we're kind of moving he's getting up a little bit and sweats coming my
Starting point is 02:01:58 hands leaking everywhere and so like at that moment I'm like dude I have a shot to where I could just I could hit him and I was like you know what I'm just going to punch him and I just start punching him in the face I have the knife from my hand I'm punching him and he's still trying to get me and I got like one underhook like this, and he's trying to get me here, and we're going back and forth, and finally they come in. It felt like an eternity, but it was probably four minutes or something. That's a long-ass time to be bare hug, what I do trying to do your arm, and they come in there and they pepper spray us, and, you know, they do their whole thing, put us in handcuffs,
Starting point is 02:02:27 and I go to medical, and I ended up, like, going, getting a staff infection in my hand, and it was the worst because South Florida is just disgusting. And I didn't get any trouble, though. You know, I think maybe they put me to, like, AC confinement for a little while, and he has a you're all cut up i mean he clearly attacked you yeah but you shouldn't have the knife yeah that was the whole thing exactly and but they were like almost like man man we like they were like almost saying it way i was saying like we wish you would have got him out of this compound for good like you know saying yeah and you end up getting another five or 10 years
Starting point is 02:03:02 or whatever yeah and so i was like thinking like that the fuck and so they put me there and i was in ac confinement and my hand healed from uh you know the staff and I get transferred out of there to the prison down south. And I'm finally like, okay, I'm at a reentry prison, chilling. And it's like the more south you go, it's like so much drugs and it's unreal. The corruption there, like the corruption up north is just violence, chaos, just what, like it's just like demonic almost. And down south, it's like dudes are on the phone with the officers, like, like, hey, baby, come by myself later, you know? and it's like they're pimping them out it's just wild to see that and it's like two like just two
Starting point is 02:03:45 different worlds but i was like you know what i'm not i'm not going to fuck this up this time so i'm in there just just working out and this is when i start to really like manifest and envision and i have the time now i'm not getting obviously there's you know in prison unfortunately there's rules of engagement it's almost like your program this is who you have to hate this is who you cannot so If you do this, you're weak, you're soft. And, you know, as I did the time, you have to follow certain politics or to set off or you'll get hit up yourself. I just was tired of this ideology that I didn't believe in, but I had to live a certain way
Starting point is 02:04:25 on this prison. And it just, it was like everything was just bottled up in me, all the violence, all the years and the youth offender, all the years of this and the confinement, the stabbing, just the violence, my friends and it was just like I was just so dumb with it man but at the same time I couldn't be because I'm here so I tried to lay low but
Starting point is 02:04:46 you know the people were like they'd see me and be like Fike what's up motherfucker hey he's a crazy dude and I'm like and like you know and so and but like so I'm working out but I'm making a plan and I was like
Starting point is 02:05:01 I want to get out and at one point I wanted to join the French Foreign Legion in there but that was gone you know I realized that's not going to happen. So we interviewed a guy, a French, I wrote them, and they wrote me back. And they were like, you could come on, come join. But, you know, as I got closer to reality, I was like, and so I hadn't talked to my family in probably three, four years at this time, anybody.
Starting point is 02:05:22 And I got a visit for the first time in a long time. My dad, and he, I mean, you just show up? Well, we kind of, like, I told him, I reached out to him saying, look, you know, how are you, how you been? Because, like, I was unable to, like, even talk to anybody outside. Like I told you before, like, in the middle of, like, riots and static, you know, it's like, hey, what's up? Yeah, I'm in a traffic jam to, you know, I'm just like, uh, like, I could not, like, and I felt like it was a weakness to even hold on. I've seen so many of those dudes just on the phone, like, always, like, living that life, like, where are you at, girl, where are you at?
Starting point is 02:05:52 Have you heard me say this? Remember I told you that there was the guy? I was like, you don't want to be that guy on the phone, like, on Saturday. Why didn't you answer the fucking phone last night? Yeah, I have heard you say this. I was just focusing. I was listening to this. Can you hear this?
Starting point is 02:06:06 We got to stop. I've mentioned this before. You would see those guys on Saturday morning calling on the phone, screaming at their wife or girlfriend. Why didn't you answer the fucking phone last night? What were you doing? And they were just going through hell. And I even remember when I first got locked up,
Starting point is 02:06:26 I had a guy that every day he was getting called up for mail call. Every day. He's getting two or three letters on me. And he'd go and he'd open up. It was my cellie. He's looking at the, and I've been locked up fucking two, three weeks. Yeah, yeah. And he's looking at the fuck.
Starting point is 02:06:39 He'd open the things. He'd look at the pictures of his girlfriend. And he'd go, and he'd tear him up in the little pieces because you don't want some weirdo, get your shit. Tear him up and he'd throw them out. And you'd look at him out. And then he'd just tear him up and not even look at him from the way. He'd read the letter. He'd fold it up.
Starting point is 02:06:53 He'd tear it up. And then he'd get another letter. And this goes on. And one day I'm like, why? Well, I've said, there's none of my business. But why are you tearing up the fucking pictures? He's just, I don't want any weirdos getting up to pull the pictures. I was like, okay.
Starting point is 02:07:04 And I said, is that your girlfriend, though? And he's, isn't that you, that's your girl? And he goes, it was my ex-girlfriend. He said, I, he said, so here's what's going on. He's like, that's why she's writing me so many letters. She wants to stay together. He says, but I just pled guilty. I got three years.
Starting point is 02:07:19 He says, and I've done like four years before. And I said, okay. He said, and, you know, I met her. We've been together a couple years, but I just got three years. And he said, and it's, it's too hard. for me to have a girlfriend for three years. And she says she's going to stay with me. And I know right now she believes that.
Starting point is 02:07:38 He said, but I don't want to be one of these guys and you'll see them. They're on the phone. And he explains. They're on the phone screaming. Yeah. The what are you doing? And he said, like, that relationship's over. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:49 He said, so it's better. I just told her, look, we're going to break up. And in three years, if I get out and you're available, we'll be together. That's the best way to do it. He was, but do what you got to do in the meantime. And if you get married and you have kids, he's like, I want that for you. Yeah. He said, so, you know, he goes, but she's, she's not okay with it.
Starting point is 02:08:07 It's been months. And she's every fucking day, she's sending me letters and pictures and this. And he's like, but, you know, he'll figure it out eventually. And it's for the best. And he goes in, you, you just got locked up. You don't know. He's what you'll see. He said, he was like, the sooner you forget about the outside world, the better you're going to be.
Starting point is 02:08:25 It's so true. And listen, I absolutely remember thinking, you fuck. In the beginning. do that? Why would you do that? What do you mean? Forget about the, no, I'm going to get out of here.
Starting point is 02:08:34 I don't want. And he was like, bro, like, if you get two, three years, he's like, I mean, you'll be sick. He's, you get 10 years. He said, you're just making your time worse. If you, if you're trying to maintain a relationship or, he said, or be a dad to your kids. Or he's like, I mean, you can make phone calls. He's like, but there are guys who are trying to run their whole family's life from inside of prison.
Starting point is 02:08:55 He's like, you're a fucking voice on the phone every two days. Who the fuck are you? So true, dude. You can provide, you can provide nothing. Yeah. He said, you become, and I remember he told me this, too, his first time I heard this, he said, being in a relationship with a prisoner, he is, is, even friendship. He is, it's a one-way relationship.
Starting point is 02:09:12 He is because all I can do is ask you for things. Yeah, that's, I can provide nothing for you. Yeah. And he said, bro, it's better. Just, just forget it. Come out in three years. He's, I'll come out in three years. And maybe she's available and maybe we're together.
Starting point is 02:09:23 Maybe she's married. And he said, you know, that's fine, too. No, it's so true, dude. I mean, that's right on the right frame or I didn't. Well, no, you just came in thinking and everybody goes through that and then you realize like, oh yeah, now I see what's going on. Like those dudes are sick on the phone yelling at the girl and I'm like thinking, oh, but I had a girl, you know, short story. She wrote me when I was in confinement for a while. And I remember writing her back and said, listen, don't ever write me again, you know, if you're out.
Starting point is 02:09:49 Like I said, when I see you when I get out, you know, we could talk, but you're going to make me mentally unstable. I have a good life. And she wrote back like, is it because I'm ugly? And I just said, I just never wrote it back. I just couldn't believe it. But I just completely cut off everybody, my family. And especially when I was at that place and then confinement over at HCI, it was like, you have to go insane to remain sane.
Starting point is 02:10:12 You know what I mean? And it's just so after I got to where I was at and I finally reached out to my dad, I wrote him and said, hey, I want to see you. How are you? He told me, he's like, you know, son, I would love to see you. How you've been? You know, he's like, I want to talk to you. So he comes up.
Starting point is 02:10:27 And it sounded like he wanted to talk to me more than just about just regular thing. And he's like, listen, I got about four years left to live. He's like, I need a kidney transplant. And I was like, I'll give you a kidney. He's like, maybe, but, you know, we'll see what happens. But I'm going to probably die within four years. And it was from when he was in the military, when he was younger, he went down and did some operation in, I want to say Guatemala. And he drank some water that really caused a major infection in his kidney.
Starting point is 02:10:52 And as he got older, they just, you know, they stopped working. And one worked. and the other one grew. It's called hyper filtration, and it's a whole thing. So he told me that. I said, wow, that was like some heavy stuff. But I was also grateful that I could, you know, spend some time with him and see him when, you know, hopefully, you know, he doesn't die before I get out. So I'm down here and it's wild as far as drugs and just these officers are fucking everybody.
Starting point is 02:11:15 It's just, but I'd rather it be that than what I was up there because there, it was like walking on like a landmines. You just don't know where you're going to walk. and I was doing good time and just started programming and working out and just getting right getting ready to go home soon and the really something that changed everything was I had a friend named Trent and you know this place was wild like I said and that could be a good thing if you want to lay low and do you it's not really any stabbings except over drug debts or whatever and if you want any help or care medical you're not going to get anything they don't get it's like it's you know you get the freedom without
Starting point is 02:11:54 any type of they're not going to do any medical and a friend of mine Trent he uh was doing three years he's from west palm and he converted he got real religious his he was about to marry his girlfriend he's let's go home in like six months dude like so close to the door and we were walking on the yard we all used to work out together and he's walking and all of a sudden he collapsed like that and his friend was there and we're all like what the fuck so he's like help help help and they had a controlled movement here and like they had to open up the gate every 15 minutes and you can go to the canteen you know it's a lot more chill here and so he's like my friend and she's like the lady's like so then one officer comes running over there looks at him and we hear him on the walkie-talkie say go get the defibrillator so then she runs back gets a defibrillator and they're like actually don't do anything they might hold you liable we're hearing this on the walkie talk and we're like wow everyone's screaming what the fuck and uh what the fuck help the man. So she's just standing there like this and she leaves,
Starting point is 02:12:58 literally leaves the defibrillator there and walks away. The man's on the yard and you can see he's having convulsions. There's no medical coming. Finally, 10 minutes later, this other officer comes running out and she starts trying to do life-saving procedures on him, but it was too late. He was already dead. And like she's trying to do everything. And it was like they just waited for him to die.
Starting point is 02:13:17 And we look over and the nurse from the medical is walking like this. Just leisurely taking their time. Everyone's screaming, going crazy. And they have us, like, start to put us on the ground. Everybody on the ground now. And they get my friend Trent off the yard and literally he's dead. And they're trying to act like he's alive. They like pick him up and he's like this.
Starting point is 02:13:36 And they fold his legs over in the wheelchair like a dolly. And they wheel him out like trash. And that really got under my, like that pissed me off. And I ended up having some words with some guards. And I was used to where I was at from before. And I was expecting everyone to just pop off from this situation. but no they were all like nah enjoy so i took a little too far yelling at the guard just just going crazy i wasn't having it man you just let my friend die and then what really
Starting point is 02:14:06 pushed me over the edge was like k2 and and like uh it was a real prevalent he didn't smoke any kt he didn't do any drug he was going home he was living a clean life working out they're like yeah we found out why he died he had a whole thing of k2 and there we knew he planted it and i just snapped and they ended up shipping me to another prison because of that and this is where i ended up EOSing from and I get there and I had already put together my plan and I said I want to get out and get in because you know like my passion was always like kickboxing wrestling I grew up you know doing that and training personal training and I started just seeing you know just like calling getting close with my pops and you know he was like what the fuck I just saw you last week you're
Starting point is 02:14:45 already right and but he understood and so you know he was helping me find like gigs that I could do and I get out and my mind was okay. I'm going to do what I have to do, and I started working regular jobs. I was even sleeping in a car right by I got a job at a kickboxing gym. It was like a fitness gym, and I would sleep in the car, go to work 5 a.m. to 1, go back in the car. That was my whole life. And then I met a coach, and I said, I want to fight. I want to fight because it wasn't that I wanted the violence and this and that.
Starting point is 02:15:14 It was that I loved the atmosphere of being around just constantly training and around guys that are bettering themselves, the camaraderie. And also I wanted to put some honor on my name, man. I felt like I changed so much from that first little kid that went to the youth defender to now that I was like disgusted at myself. And I wanted to become like something that people could say, look at him. Like look at that man right there. He's a fighter. So I got into kickboxing and MMA, did 11 amateur fights, you know, and then my son was born in between that time. And, you know, I was kept fighting to show him like he was a baby still.
Starting point is 02:15:48 But I wanted him to see that's who your dad is, you know, not who that guy was on. you know kicking indoors and stuff and during one of my fights uh one a famous kickboxer from the 80s you know i'm there just my friend and i and i'm covered with ink my friend we were like everyone else was like uh the karate kid schools are all like training for and we're just us two convicts like there and he's like i need to know man who are you you know i got to the championship amateur fight in south carolina it was an amazing fight you know i lost by decision but it could have been one of those fights we could it was just badass and uh he did an interview with me and And he's like, who are you?
Starting point is 02:16:22 Like, who are you, too? I've never seen just two guys come in here and just do, like, I was like, and I explained it to him. It went viral, and that's how I got into it. And I kept fighting for a while. And as my business, my brand took off with social media and other things I was doing in my training, I really just took a break from fighting because I felt like I've been fighting my whole life.
Starting point is 02:16:44 And I came back for one more fight, hurt my knee, did a charity fight, hurt my knee. But like, I accomplished, I got where I was. wanted to be through literal blood, sweat, and tears. And I, and like the connections I made, I was able to become a GM at a gym, but I kept, I had a vision, man, that I knew that I could do this social media stuff. I knew that if I got and told my story after the first video went viral from just that interview at the fight of the kickboxer or the old school kickboxer who ran the promotion, just my story. And that's when I started to crank up and ultimately got to a million followers on TikTok cranking up now on YouTube and it's I guess one of those things where like I said
Starting point is 02:17:27 that adversity that pain that suffering like I was a piece of shit I deserve to go to prison you know and I was raising my hand for every situation like like yeah it's like oh freddie that's so crazy how does this know but I was going in these situations willingly I was causing these violence and I don't regret hurting any of these chomos and hurt women or kids like that it is what it is like it's a situation where you see on the news and you're like man if I could just be minutes alone with that guy but i was five minutes long you know so that i never regretted but i put myself in so many horrible situations and so much pain and so that i had to see why i was so angry this this misguided anger and you know as i matured and had a son i knew that i had two choices
Starting point is 02:18:09 dude i i you know i'm fighting i have all this and i have a business that's about to start thriving i got you know i'm a gm at a gym i could take everything all the pain all the suffering all the and knowing I went through that and become the best father possible or just go back and do what everybody else does and say, oh, it's too hard and go commit a crime and go right back. And, you know, my son, everyone has their own spiritual beliefs, but I always feel like if you have pure intentions, no matter what you do, regardless of your past, as long as you didn't like do no sick ass shit, you know, like you can have a change. And if you have that pure intentions and knowledge and you apply it and I just saw my son as like, that was my second chance. Not getting out of
Starting point is 02:18:47 prison. Not everything else, not getting these, like, lucky and not getting a life sense or whatever. It was seeing my son, this beautiful kid that I could guide and, you know, it's like I went through this so he doesn't have to, you know, hopefully. And I started really just getting into like my company, my brand, Viking mindset, all that and just being a father. And, and, you know, my dad unfortunately passed away. But I got to at least have that time with him, which was a blessing. got to meet, you know, his grandson, and, you know, a lot of things happened along the road where it tests you, and a lot of times it took a lot of time to get back to reality. Like, it was so hard to go from that world to a world.
Starting point is 02:19:30 I didn't know anything about touch screens. Like, when I left prison, I sell him, I sell the catfish, he's like, man, take care of it. And I was like, hey, man, what's your MySpace, bro? And I'll never forget his look, dude. He looks at me, and he's like, come here, young man. Like, like, and I thought I did something wrong. He's like, let me talk to him. He goes, listen, man.
Starting point is 02:19:46 I know you've been gone a long time. time and you've been a lot of confinement. Don't tell any women about MySpace when you get out. And I was like, I didn't know. Then I got out and I realized like, oh, shit. And it took me a while because I had this, even though I had the discipline, I was training, but the fighting, it wasn't because I needed the violence. It was because it was something so hard to do that having to train and be in a camp,
Starting point is 02:20:09 whether it's amateur, whatever it is, you're still, you know, battling. Having that hanging over your head, you have to be the best version of yourself at all times. You know, you have to be in the best shape, physically, mentally, spiritually, emotion. You can't be out drinking in part. So that how I wanted to live my life. And I found other people that there weren't necessarily criminals or, you know, they all had their stories, but they didn't have like this intense prison stories, at least most of them. And it was like I found people that are all training for a goal to be the best version of themselves and study and train for battle, you know, essentially like like amateur fighting. But still.
Starting point is 02:20:43 And that opened up doors and everything just worked out. out. And I just stay with pure intentions and know that, you know, through all the suffering and it gave me a purpose that no matter what happens, no matter, I'm here for my son. There's nothing that can break me. Nothing on this world that can break me. Like, I went through all that, all that shit from tattoo artists, poisoning people, to getting put in cells, a fight to the death, to almost getting life sentences, staves, and Freddie Cruz. It's like, I'm here. And my son's here. and you know with the fights and in my history it's like let's do this man and how i am just being a father and providing and and just trying to hope that i could show other people like look bro i was
Starting point is 02:21:25 a fucking savage fucking psychopath and here i am as a good man teaching my son how to be a righteous man fighting in amateur fights and and just trying to help people with pure intentions man and i try to tell people if my fucking psycho ass can do it just imagine with somebody that doesn't have to even go through a quarter of that bullshit you can go through you know and that's where i'm at today brother um i have a couple quick questions of course and i know uh colby does for one where did you get your tattoos where everything was in prison in prison yeah so i'm blasted from my neck all the way down yeah the whole stomachs whole chest yeah um also your son um what is his mother around she are you still with her no
Starting point is 02:22:13 No, I'm not with her, but, you know, he has a mother in his life, but, like, him and I are very, very close, you know, like, we're super close. Like, you know, I'm very active in his life every day, all day, you know, that's my boy. It's my pride. What else? Anything? I mean, I guess the first question I'd have for people watching, what is Viking mindset? Like, what actually is that? So are you like...
Starting point is 02:22:40 Like your business and then kind of like the philosophy behind it? or kind of maybe you're all right so that's a good question so viking mindset was um i had got the nickname viking when i was locked up because i was in a fight one time and the dude was beating me and i just kept coming forward and forward and they're just like this fucking dude is a fucking viking he just doesn't he's ready to just go to valet here and i just kept just going and i ended up winning because he ran out of breath so i had that nickname and it stuck with me and i've always been very into knowledge whether it's ancient times with vlad the impel it whatever it is, history from the Egyptians, Rome, everything.
Starting point is 02:23:12 I just read, I love historical knowledge. And I started, once that fight went viral after I interviewed and did that whole thing in my kickboxing fight, I started a page on TikTok and called Viking Mindset. And I used my philosophy of the Viking mindset, not what prison or what anything is on TV or any of that stuff. The way it was is you provide, you protect. You live with honor, you die with honor, but it's always about providing and teaching your son the next generation or your daughter, whoever, to be the best version of themselves. And there's nothing better than their philosophy and their culture than to die with honor and purpose, protecting your people. So my thing is, of course, that's heroic, but I want to live with that honor and courage to say, look, I survived that shit. and now I went through all that hell
Starting point is 02:24:07 and I have that Viking mindset where I will do anything to protect and provide for my son but I don't have to die for him I have to live for him and that's the Viking mindset and all in all you know okay
Starting point is 02:24:20 nothing usually how well he usually has five or six questions well yeah I mean actually I've got some questions there are more so stories that every one brother yeah so the most evil inmate you ever
Starting point is 02:24:35 met Clark what what's the story behind that so he was a real piece of shit um serial want to be and it's just one of those things where the CEOs basically put him in a position and me in a position to get him hit up and he was bragging about what he did to women and children and the CEOs couldn't take it anymore and I raised my hand for that one and you know, and it got messy. You know, it was a fight. He freaking got a toenail on my freaking face. It was a, we fought right there on the catwalk, right by the shower.
Starting point is 02:25:15 It was an ugly one, but the, I just, one thing I just hate, you know, and this will never change. Is anybody who violates women and children like that, they got, I just, I will never stand for that ever. And that was why I raised my hand on that one. Yeah, that was a, that's one you should go check out. It's on the TikTok. It's, it's a brutal story. Another TikTok that I saw did really well. I didn't watch it, so I don't know if the answer is similar, but what happens to school shooters?
Starting point is 02:25:42 Like, how are they treated? Okay, so that's a very good one. I talk about in that one, so Nathaniel Brazil, I don't know if you guys know that name. So when I, to go back to when I was direct filed on the 12th floor, there was a kid named Nathaniel Brazil. And he was in there for shooting his teacher, where I'm in the county and area I was from. And I talk about our interactions with him first on how he was not viewed as the same as a regular school shooter. He shot a teacher and he was scared. And, you know, when I first met him when we were young, he was very wild and serious about that life.
Starting point is 02:26:17 And later on, when I did my adult bit, I saw him because I think he got 20, 25 years. He was like almost like Johnny Cochran, they called him, the Johnny Cochran in prison. Like he became such a different person that that was wild. But then on the comparison is there was these guys from Jacksonville that shot a school and killed some kids. And, you know, they are, I saw one dude. He went from being the tough guy with all these gangster tattoos to last I saw him. He was getting married on the yard to some guy named Debo, you know, and they did not respect him. They poisoned his food.
Starting point is 02:26:53 Yeah, that one is very brutal what they did to him. And a lot of the other ones, they isolate and they do more of a mental torture to them. They poison their food. They just make them locked up. They don't give them their canteen, letters. They almost cut them off from society, you know, because that's their thing. They want that attention. And it's like a lot of inmates where it's very corrupt, the CEOs know, okay, if we hit them up, it'll be all over the news.
Starting point is 02:27:18 So what's the worst thing we can do to someone like that? Cut off the world from them. Cut off everything. And that makes them go literally insane. So that's when that was about three different, like, views on. you know one that became a boy and got he came in there like a gangster he thought what he did was like heroic like kids at a school and next thing i know he went from gangster to i guess debaubed him got had a whole wedding on the yard and everything to a picnic i got i don't know
Starting point is 02:27:49 um i know you you touch on a little bit um like kind of when you transitioned like you started developing a plan to get out was there like a point there was like a specific point that you can look back on or what made you make that change or was it just because you were just tired of it or is it kind of like a point of realization that's a very good question so it was a little combination of both it was i always knew like as i like got away from everything i knew that who i was like it sucks that i had to go to prison to know man i'm not like i i nothing's worse than wasted potential and i felt like man i wasted so much fucking potential and i remember like i would have to like manifest like I'd be writing down like these plans and these visions but then like have
Starting point is 02:28:34 to like like like go on and put this like fake like bravado on and and be on this politics and hate this person hate that person and do this and this and that and then go back to trying my plan and one thing like that that was going on and you know I had a good friend of mine Christopher Reith you know a Marine a very good dude who told me he's like man you have so much potential dude like and it just that stuck with me because he was a very righteous dude but I remember going on to, I was in confinement and I remember how stupid I was. I was in the highest level of confinement and they were taking us out and they're like dog cages and I'm walking out there and I'm thinking, yeah, I'm around all the big dogs now.
Starting point is 02:29:13 I'm this young up-and-coming star and I did it. Like that's how stupid I was, dude, misguided. Like, and I remember talking to a dude who was like highly respected and he's like, oh, I know you are a Viking, what's up, man? And he's like, man, you're fucking, not disrespectful, but he's like, you're an idiot, dude. but he didn't say it like like to aggressively yeah and i was like what do you mean dude and he's like dude i would for what you have bro and i was like huh he's like a fucking release date less than a decade what the fuck are you doing bro and i was like here i am literally causing all
Starting point is 02:29:44 this mayhem and and just in wars and risking like my friend spahn who got 27 years on a three year sentence you know what i mean and just all that shit and uh here i am talking to I thought would embrace me and say, you're doing great, kid, looks at me like, man, what the fuck is wrong with you, kid? And all that combined. And then, you know, I just knew that it, I just, I can't do this, man. I can't be one of these people. I can't be these people that come in and come in and come in nonstop.
Starting point is 02:30:16 It's just, you know, I want to be able to take what I've gone through, the pain, the suffering, the good, the bad, you know, whatever I feel spiritually, and be able to give that knowledge to somebody in my life, you know. And that's what was the ultimate change. Yeah, I was just going to say that reminds me of when I got to the medium, I was complaining about, you know, how much time I'd gotten. And my cousin had said, because I actually had a cousin in prison. And he was like, yeah, stop doing that.
Starting point is 02:30:49 He said, stop doing that. No, you said, you're not making your time easier. You're not making anybody else's time either. He said, for you to bitch because you got a bunch of time. He goes, bro, you realize most of the tables you're sitting at. These guys have fucking life sentences. Like, because I was the first went to the medium. Right, all right.
Starting point is 02:31:03 You know, so they're like, you've got, these guys have 30 years, 45 years, 80 years, a life sentence. Like, you know, they'll get, they'll move down from the pin. Even if you have a life, you can go to a medium. You can actually go to a low with a life. But you have to be so old. You know what I'm saying? They'll reduce it. Like, he's 65.
Starting point is 02:31:24 He's in a pen. he's got a life, two life sentences, whatever. We can put, he's never been any problems, but we can put him in the medium because he's over 65 is not really, he's harmless at this point. Although I look at Mike Hustin and I don't see harmless. Yeah, you see some dudes. Yeah, you see guys that are 75 years old. You're like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:41 There was a guy that was like 80 years old and he, black guy who could jump up on the bar and I mean, just smash out. I remember seeing some old dudes and you're just like, whoa, doing muscle ups and stuff. This is insane. Yeah. Like you, me. Look at you. um that's true but uh yeah and i just remember thinking yeah you need to shut your fucking mouth bro
Starting point is 02:32:00 like some of these guys are never going home yeah and maybe for good reason but it doesn't make it it any it's still it's still sucks you know what i'm saying like maybe you don't i don't know i see these guys the time they hand out to these guys i just go especially in the federal system well it's you know the funny thing is look if you look at the state of florida like the sentences are comparable they give out a shitload of time in florida right because you'll sit there and like the sentences you're getting, I've interviewed guys that they're like, you know, three home invasions, did this, did that, did that. And they're like, you know, but I was in, you know, but I was in New York.
Starting point is 02:32:33 So you're like, what does that mean? And then they get like seven years. You're like seven fucking years. I know guys that got 25 fucking years or 20 years in the federal system for one home invasion. You got four of them. And you've been in and out of prison. They're like, yeah, yeah, but it's New York. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:49 What does that mean? Or you're in this, this, you know, this, you're in whatever, you know, I don't. Or something and you find out right and then they give these sentences that are like 30 years are like oh my God They're like no no no listen how it works and then they start calculating one day yeah Yeah he's out like yeah like yeah like 30 years you're walking out and three he's like yeah nonviolent or no or this or I didn't have a gun or this it's like But so yeah I mean I I it's so true dude it's yeah it's it's it's funny the guys that are the most some of the guys that I've seen that have been the most miserable got the least amount yeah and the most chill or the lifeers yeah And they just, it's like, God, you're bitching about four years. Like, I'd do anything for four years right now.
Starting point is 02:33:33 Yeah, that's true, dude. So you're still, you're still, you're working, you're working at a gym. Right. Right now I run my own personal training company. So, okay. Yeah, I took the biking mindset and just completely went on my own. Okay. And then did that happen?
Starting point is 02:33:46 Oh, it's about a year ago. Oh, cool. That's good. Yeah. So I went because I was like, you know what? I got enough follower. I got enough traction now. you know what I want to do it for myself now and it took off with that and TikTok took a million followers now
Starting point is 02:33:59 how long did that take to get a million followers about almost two years I'd say look that's fast bro yeah yeah we've we've had some major problems with TikTok like we started like three channels and had them all just yeah we just get crushed yeah we've had a I think one one might have got just canceled one was and created in Canada so we couldn't monetize it oh I just can't monetize it I just can't monetize in Canada? No, we had a guy, you know, you have people, I'm sure you have people reach out and be like like they want to help you. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:34:28 We had a Canadian guy. Great guy. Set up the channel. I'll run the whole channel for you. I feel like I have the algorithm down. I'm going to start it for you. I do the whole, absolutely great. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 02:34:38 Start it up, but he's in Canada. He didn't even know. We didn't know. At some point after, he built it up to 100 and 200. Yeah. That's devastating. And then he got busy at work. He's like, look, I can't do it anymore.
Starting point is 02:34:52 I'm going to hand it back to you guys. here you can just take it over and of course we get it back and we go to monetize it because now can be monetized and you realize nope can't monetize it it's Canadian so we just start over again and then we just started ours here yeah probably at the beginning of the year the beginning of the years we started getting monetized and it's doing well and then uh yeah like we're doing with a little bit of issues we're talking about earlier but uh no it's it's it's it's it's hard to figure it out and it's hard to you see you see some people will get even same thing with the youtube i always get people will compare you like bro why don't you have a million subscribers so-and-so does and so-and-so so-and-so
Starting point is 02:35:30 well i'm not so-and-so you know and i'm like and i feel like i'm doing pretty good like i just started this like i don't know what i'm doing like i'm doing okay you know i'm not johnny mitchell you know what i'm saying sorry um but your channel is definitely amazing but a million subscribers uh that's that's you know on a ticot that's yeah oh dude i grind it but like Like you said, it's just one of those things where you got the good intentions, dude, and you just keep going and going, trying to help and things will fall into place, you know.
Starting point is 02:35:59 But I'm just grateful, man. So, yeah, that's what, so I started the training and then had my social media, the brand, and do some other affiliate marketing and stuff like that, and now I'm going to get into the YouTube. I've got a decent following, like, not that big, about almost 14, 15,000 on YouTube, but I just wanted to test the waters on there,
Starting point is 02:36:20 and I'm going to make some more detailed documentaries and audio books and stuff like that. You're going to, though, dude. I should be proud of yourself. I'm semi-proud, you know. It's badass, dude. Sometimes I get proud, and then, you know, then my wife's like, you're not all that. You're not all that. Hey, you need someone like that.
Starting point is 02:36:41 Listen, I appreciate you making the drive. Yeah, for sure, dude. I appreciate you having me. Hey, you guys, do be a favor. Hit the subscribe button, hit the bell so get notified a video just like this. Also, we're going to have all the links to Viking mindset, you know, TikTok, he's also got an Instagram and you didn't mention, TikTok, Instagram, YouTube channel, and we're going to have all the links.
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