Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Robbing 10+ Banks | Rob Edwards
Episode Date: August 2, 2024Robbing 10+ Banks | Rob Edwards ...
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Hey, this is Matt Cox, and I want to talk about a second channel that I just started, which is called Inside the Darkness.
So I'm a huge fan of soft white underbelly, right?
Like, I've been on soft white underbelly.
I love the format of soft white underbelly.
Spoke with, when I went out to Los Angeles, and I did one of, I did an episode.
with him or an interview with Mark.
We had talked extensively about his setup
and how he did it. And the thing about Mark is, and by the way, there's a great
interview with him with Danny on a concrete where
he goes all into his background and everything. Look, the guy is like just
amazing. The cinematography is just phenomenal.
The interviews are great.
And so I talked to him a lot.
lot about about his channel and about what he was doing and and I really enjoy the format my my problem is
with his channel in general is that you know he's he's interviewing like you know homeless people
drug addicts prostitutes and and although the interviews are great the cinematography is great
it's it's a great concept I don't really have all that much interest in what's
going on with you know with those people i i don't i'm not i'm not able to empathize with their
plight i don't have a drug problem uh i i'm typically uh able to kind of function in society so
you know their their issues are not my issues so i have a hard time uh getting through those
interviews although they are great listen and and i mean you know he he shoots them beautifully
they're almost like works of art.
If you haven't checked out his channel,
you really should check it out.
So I remember as we were talking
and he was talking about how he had problems
getting monetized
and that the videos weren't making money.
Not that the videos for him
are about making money.
They're not.
Like for him, it's a mission.
He's basically retired.
He's made probably,
I believe he's probably a multi-millionaire.
He's made a ton of money,
had an amazing career.
and towards the end of his career, he just decided this was something he had to do.
So he started the YouTube channel, Soft White Underbelly.
Well, and of course he's got all the other media going.
He's got TikTok.
He's got Instagram.
He has all the other platforms covered too.
So what I thought was great was I loved the idea of just sitting somebody in a chair with a nondescript background.
I chose a black background for my chair.
channel and just have them tell their story in their own words, you know, which I think is great
because it's so, it just, it shows someone just that they're most vulnerable, you know,
where they have to explain their life and lay out their life in their own words without being
prompted. And it's extremely difficult to do. Most people can't do it. And if you think about
it, if somebody asked you right now, who are you? What would you say? Like, it's difficult
to come up with who you are or why you're there or, you know, even if it was just, unless it's
really a story of some kind. And typically most people can kind of struggle out a story. So what I did
was I thought, what's interesting to me about his channel and those interviews is when he interviews
like, let's say criminals and they tell you about something they've done. Obviously, I'm fascinated
by criminals. And so what I decided to do was I thought, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to
take that one element of the people and the interviews and I'm going to do a channel that's based
solely on just people that have committed crimes and their lives and so I took I took my
one of my my my spare room and I lined the entire room and in with black curtains you know that so
actually I went to Walmart did I tell you this I went to Walmart and I bought like six black
sheets so I line the whole the walls with black sheets and the ground with black sheets
and I have two cameras set up and I have a stool and what I do is after I interview someone
in my studio I say look you know I got another channel and I think it'd be interesting
to have that channel and have you on that channel without me being involved so that
people are just, it's you telling your story just about yourself. And the reason I like to do that
is that that way they've already told their story. And they kind of have a way, an understanding of
how their story lays out. Once they've been interviewed by me, I've kind of said, hey, tell me about
your childhood. Okay, where were you born? How'd this happen? Well, how'd you get involved with this?
Well, what happened? And now in their mind, they're kind of like, okay, well, these were the points
that he was interested in. Let me go ahead and just tell those points, kind of chronologically go over
my story and lay it out sometimes it takes 30 minutes sometimes the guys talk for an hour and
30 minutes well i obviously i have them sit down and go over the whole thing and then i edit the
videos i take some what i think i take some very some decent photographs and i pepper those
photographs throughout the the inner or the video and I edit the video where some
people get off on tangent and that is what that's what that channel is about I'm
going to go ahead I'm going to play one of those videos now so that you guys can
see the layout or kind of how it's how it's laid out in the format of one of
those videos and this is a video that was a guy that
I'd actually interviewed maybe a year ago, I always, I was just fascinated by him
because, look, he didn't rob the most banks.
I know a guy who robbed like 40 banks.
This guy's name is Rob.
Rob Rob Rob Rob Robb Robb Robb ten banks, I think, and two armored trucks.
But I was fascinated because he really kind of.
connects with Batman and he's got a Batman tattoo and he loves Batman and so I thought it was interesting
it was an interesting story he loves telling the story which a lot of people can't stand
telling their own stories my my girlfriend did one Jess she did an interview and it was pulling
teeth she hated it she doesn't want to be in front of the camera she doesn't want to talk she
doesn't want to be a part of it it's really it's it's a struggle some people just are not
great at telling their story or even if they're good at they just don't want to tell it so
i've i've got i've had i've i've interviewed about 10 people so far and i'm continuing to
interview people and i'm trying to get it to a point where i can interview all the time
where i can get a new video up every single week and i think i can continue i think i can
maintain that. Well, anyway, this is the video. I had interviewed Rob, and I asked Rob to come back
and do an interview and tell the story just by himself, and he did. And that interview is the
interview I'm about to play. And check out the interview. He does a great job telling it. It's a good
interview. And if you like the interview, do me a favor, and please subscribe to the channel
because I need subscribers.
I need people to watch the videos.
I'm going to leave the link for the channel in the description.
So the link for the channel will be in the description.
You just tap on it.
It'll bring you right there and subscribe.
So here's the interview.
I hope you like it.
Please leave a comment.
Let me know what you think.
Check this out.
Just introduce yourself who you are.
Gotcha.
All right.
Hey, how are you doing?
My name is Robert Edwards.
I'm born in Tampa, Florida.
So I've always wanted to tell this story.
Basically, my childhood leading to where I got to,
as far as my criminal record, to where I'm at today.
I was born in 1967, December 23rd,
named after my grandmother.
Her name's Roberta, and they named me Robert.
I started going to Lois Elementary.
I went to Lloyds Elementary School.
From there, I went to Bryan, 6th grade center, which is on Hillsboro and 30th Street.
If I'm not mistaken, 32nd.
Hillsburg and 32nd.
And then from there, I went to Sly, Greco, and King High School.
As growing up as a kid, all the way through high school, I never had any interaction.
with any police officers, never had any criminal record child, criminal record, or any kind
of juvenile record, anything of that nature.
I played football for Temple Terrace independently.
I played for wildcats, I played for the cougars, and also I played for the lions.
I probably was one of the favorite store best player on the team.
I played running back and also free safety.
I stayed in the paper Tampa, Timbletaris Paper, Tampa Tribune, one of the fastest guys
in the league, the most touchdown, most kickoff returns, punt returns.
And then I went off to King High School.
So I started my first year at King High School, and that was the time that they were building
Armwood, and they were doing school changes, sending kids from King because it was overpopulated
to the new school, which was Armwood.
And I decided, hey, you know, I needed a change, so I decided to go to Armwood.
I went to Armwood, stayed there for two years.
First year at King, two years at Armwood.
I was the first class graduation at Armwood, I think in 1986, if I'm not mistaken.
I went from there.
I started working.
I worked for Casugayardo, which was a Mexican restaurant.
That was my first job ever working at Casugiardo.
I quit that job and started working for King.
Cash and Carey. At the time, Cash and Carey was one of our first grocery stores or one of our
only, well, it was Cash and Carrey, Wind Dixie, and I'm not sure Publix was around. I don't
remember, but I know Cash and Carries was our main store here in Tampa. I had worked there
for approximately six months before
they asked me if I wanted to be GTL, which is grocery team leader.
And I was undecided about wanting to move up because I would have to come in at midnight
at night and have to stay until, it was an over-the-night job.
At that time, I really didn't want to work that time of night, be out from 12 to 8, 9 in the morning.
So I decided against it right then
So I kept working on the stock crew
For the next two to three
Three months he came to me again
And asked me if I wanted to be GTL
And he made me an offer
I couldn't refuse at the time
I think I started out with like $10.75 an hour
And he offered me $13 an hour
And I decided to take the job
So I took the job and enjoyed working there
I got promoted from there
like a year later, to another store, which was on Hillsboro, and Armenia, the cash and carry there.
I got promoted to a bigger store, which moved me to grocery manager from GTL, from team leader to grocery manager, which was more money.
I think they started paying me salary.
So now, this is where it starts to take off for me, as far as.
my interaction with people as far as me starting to change who I was as far as a person
because I never had any problem with people before but this particular store
the store manager had already picked someone to be in the position that the general manager
or the regional manager put me into his store but he already had someone he wanted to put
in that store, in that position.
So when I got there, his name was Joe LaBarber,
and he was the store manager for Cache and Carey on Hills,
Berlin, Armenia.
He gave me a hard time.
Why?
I mean, one of my reasons was because he wanted to put this other guy in that
position, too, because really after getting to know him,
and seeing how he was, I figured that he had a problem with people of color.
So we were getting ready to have a bank open inside the store.
This is when the grocery stores started having banks come in
and, you know, people were able to do their banking inside the grocery departments
and inside of grocery stores.
Well, we were one of the first stores to get a bank in it.
And I had just had a truck come in.
My guys put the stock up on the shelf.
And I had my store manager, Joe LaBarber, leave me a note.
I think we came in at midnight.
He left me a note saying, Robert in the morning,
if the store is not aced out, I'm going to have your ass.
Because it's an important day.
We're having a grand opening for this bank,
and the store better be aced out.
So I'm looking at the letter.
I'm like, damn, who the hell are you talking to like that?
I'm like, this for a store manager, this isn't very professional.
This isn't how you talk to people.
So I was like, man, you know what?
And we had an overnight officer, which was a black officer, because it was a 24-hour store.
We had an officer working there.
So I show him the letter.
I said, hey, look, man, look at the store manager, just left for me.
And he read the letter.
He's like, man, that's crazy.
He's like, if I was you, I'll keep that letter.
So I took that letter folded up and I put it in my glove compartment.
So as time went by, you know, things with me and that manager wasn't getting any better.
It was getting worse.
This guy really was trying to get rid of me.
He was trying to get me to quit or, you know, or trying to make it that me and him have some kind of altercation that I was going to have to be fired or whatever.
So about two, three months went by, and I went to the store.
I had that day before off, and I think it might have been like a Friday, and I came in on Saturday.
So I went to the store, which, you know, I had got promoted to one on Hills, Berlin, and Meno.
So when I got in the store, you know, I'm getting ready to clock in, you know, get ready to do our thing.
And the manager who was on at that time was just like a front-end manager.
told me, hey, Rob, they transfer you.
You don't work here anymore.
I was like, what?
He's like, yeah, yeah, they transfer you back to the other store that you came from.
They said they needed you over there.
So I was like, damn, okay, cool.
I was like, no one even called to tell me and inform me that I'm no longer working here that I got transferred.
I was like, man, this shit is crazy.
I said, okay, cool.
So I left by the store, so I went over to the other store that I had got transferred.
from for two you know I transferred back over to the old store so I went in there and
they had their front-end manager on and they're Robbie welcome back hey man I'm glad
to see you what's going on he's like oh let me tell you before you get started
two of your guys called in sick John wants you to pull all the back stock out
from the back and work everything from the back and you have a truck call coming
in with a thousand pieces on it now this is my first
day back to this store and this guy's telling me that I had two guys that
called in sick I'm already short-handed they got a thousand-piece truck coming in
and they have like 20 pallets of backstock in the back that they wanted me to
pull out on the floor and go through so when I went to the back I looked at all
that backstock it was just pallets of stuff that they ordered that couldn't go
on the shelf at the time that they had to just stack it on pallet and they wanted me
to pull it all out and I'm
already pissed off because I got transferred back over to this store without even being told.
So I say, you know what?
I'm young.
I think at the time I was like 21 years old.
I like, man, I ain't doing this.
I'm going to quit.
So I walk back up to the front.
As I was walking back up through the front, I was walking through produce.
a Spanish kid who worked with me when I worked there before.
And he was like, hey, Rob, hey, man, what's going on?
I like, man, they just sent me back over here, man, all that shit in the back.
Man, look, man, I'm not doing it.
I'm like, I'm quitting, man.
He's like, you quit?
I'm quitting.
He's like, man, if you quit, I'm quitting.
I like, you quit.
You can't quit, man.
Come on, man.
He's like, yeah, if you quit, I'm quitting.
I'm like, man, I'm quitting, man.
I ain't doing this shit.
So I walked back up to the front and I asked the front-in manager.
I said, hey, let me out, buddy.
He's like, well, you left something in your car?
You need to go to your car to get something out your car.
I was like, no, I quit, man.
I'm not doing it.
He started laughing.
He's like, man, you're not quitting, man.
You make more money than me with your overtime.
He's like, you're going to quit for real.
I was like, yeah, I'm quitting.
He's like, what are you doing?
He's like, I'm quitting too.
And he said, I can understand you're quitting.
But, Rob, you're quitting.
And I was like, yeah, open the door, let me out.
So when the man opened up the door, we walked out the door,
And when I walked out, it kind of like hit me.
I'm like, damn, am I really quitting?
I just quit my job.
I'm like, man, what you want to do?
So next to that cash and carry that was on Hills, Berlin, I mean, Del Mabre in 275, there was an ABC liquor store.
I said, man, let's go to ABC.
I'm not even a drinker, but for what just went down, I just felt like I wanted to drink something.
So we went over to the ABC liquor store, and we got a six.
pack a slits malt liquor bull, the tall cans.
We got that and we got back in the car and we drove across the street, which was Mounts Venus.
Mon's Venus is like a nudie bar, Joe Redden there owned it.
And we pulled over there, we sat in the parking lot and trunk like two apiece.
And from just two of those tall cans of slits malt liquor bull, I was like twill over there.
it's like twisted.
So we end up going in, we sat at the stage.
We went inside the mom's being,
and we sat at the stage and just, you know,
just enjoyed ourselves right then and just, you know,
watch girls and just chills.
And in the back of my mind,
I'm still thinking, man, you're stupid.
You just quit your job.
Your mom's going to kill you.
So from there,
we ended up leaving
I gave him a ride back home
to his house
and went home
jumped in the bed
and I thought laid in the bed
like damn
I don't have a job
where I'm gonna get my source of income from
and you know I mean
I have never
had never thought about doing crime
or committing any kind
of heinous act
I just
from that point there
it kind of like
hit me.
You know what?
This is what I'm going to do.
They pissed me off.
I'm going back.
So I waited a week
until all the money that I had in my pocket
and my check, I think I had just received my check
and I had to give my mom
probably like half of the check.
And I put a plan together.
I got up a few guys that I knew
and I said, you know what?
I want to go back and hit that door.
I want to hit that store.
I want to go and do woo-woo, and this is what we're going to do.
I know everything to lay out, inside and out.
So we got everything we need, all the necessary material,
all the equipment that it was going to take to pull it off.
And that morning, which was like on a Friday,
I wanted to hit it when I thought they had the most money
inside the customer service and the most money inside of the,
the safe. So I had set up a plan for one guy to go over to the produce area because I know
there was a phone in there and I know I didn't want anyone getting to that phone. And one guy
watched the door and one guy went up to the customer service with me. So we went, we
went
achieving my goal
I went inside
approximately like
930, 10 o'clock
in the morning when
I know it wouldn't be that busy but
everything would be on hand
I successfully pulled it off
made it back I think we probably got like
15,000
17,000 or something
from that
that
that
that
that heist
So I divided that money up amongst us.
I think it was four people.
I divided that money up and I went about my business.
So once that money was spent, I say, you know what?
We're going to go do the other one.
So I got my guys together and we decided we're going to go do the other one.
And I went to the one on Hillsborough and Armenia and I also did that one.
The craziest thing about this one was that I took every coin that was in the safe.
I took all the bills.
It was like, I'll say like $6, $700 and ones.
There was like $500 in quarters, a couple hundred dollars in dimes, nickels and pennies.
But the reason why I said that because on the way out, I had so much worth.
weight inside the duffel bag, it was hard for me to get it on my shoulder to try to get it
out the door. So one of the guys was trying to help me. I had a bag boy trying to intervene,
trying to stop us or something, but my guy, you know, did what he had to do to keep him from
intervening. And by the time I made it to the car, got the bag in there, made it to the second
car. It was a wrap. But as time went from there, I did end-in-not jobs. I worked at car dealerships.
I worked at Ed Morris Cadillight, probably from the year from 90, 91, 92, 93. I started my bank
robbery career around 93, 94, and I got in net just simply by my brother-in-law, knew a guy who
wanted to rob a bank.
Now, I, you know, growing up as a kid, you hear people, them, oh, yeah, I want to rob a bank,
man, the only way you got rob a bank, you got to rob a bank to get that kind of money.
And I was like, damn, rob a bank, if you rob a bank, and you'd be a millionaire.
man, you know, that's the mentality you had growing up as a kid, as a young adult.
So my brother-in-law, my brother-in-law came to me one day.
He was like, hey, man, check this out.
I know this guy, man, this white guy, he wanted to rob a bank.
You know, he's looking for somebody.
He knows easy lick.
I was like, yeah, bring him to him.
I want to know.
I want to meet him.
Bring him over here.
So, like, two days later, he brought the guy over.
You know, we sat and talked for a minute.
He told me about the bank, you know.
I said, I want to see it, take me to it.
So he took me to the bank.
I was trying to see what the people were doing
because it looked like they had to be buzzed in.
I was like, they got to be buzzed in.
The first bank I did was the one on Hillsboro and Hibana.
I think it was Florida Bank
or something
something similar to that
it wasn't a big
name brand bank
or big branch
it was just like
an independent
a small bank
but anyway
you had to be buzz
to get in
I'm like man
man look
I don't want to do no bank
you got to be buzz
to get in
how you what about
you got to be buzz
to get out
he's like
no no no
already been in
and you don't
you don't have to worry about that
once you get in
you're like
are you serious
he like yeah bro
man it's going to be easy man
I'm like
fuck it
let's do it. So it's like, I'm going to get the cars and everything. And then I was like,
I get the scraps and I get everything else. You know, we're going to handle this. So we picked
the day, which was going to be on a Friday. And we picked that day because we felt like
that's the day that the most money would be in the bank, in the tellers, because Friday is
normally check-cashing day. So we, you know, we felt like that would be the best day to do it.
So I picked him up around 10, 10.30 or so I wanted to make sure I'm around there hitting the bank around, like right before lunchtime when I feel like people was going to come and be doing their thing, getting the check cash, and it was going to be the most amount of money and the tellers at that time.
So I picked him up.
We go get our first vehicle, you know, a stolen vehicle that he used a screw driver to get.
I think it was a Mustang 5.0.
It was.
It was a Mustang 5.0 with like a halacious engine, and it was all souped up and everything.
So we go get in the first car, and our second car was a Nissan Maximum that I had.
We had got from Nissan or Tampa, we had keys to it and everything, so we had parked that behind the published because it was in like a public shopping center and the bank set up on the corner of Hillsboro and Havana.
So we're on our way heading west on Hillsboro right before Armenia.
I got me, my other guy, and the person who originally wanted to do that.
do the bank and sitting in the car with me.
So when we pull up the Hill, Burr and Aminia, this guy, we already ready.
We got the glass on.
We got the mad.
We got the sclars.
We got the bag.
We're ready.
We're trying to get down.
Soon we pull up the hills, Berlin, Amelia.
This guy tells me, he starts crying.
He starts crying.
No, Rob, man.
I can't do this, man.
I can't do it, man.
I'm on probation.
I'm on probation with the fed.
I can't do this, man.
It's something happening me, and I'm going to go away forever.
I looked at him.
Like, damn, hold on.
Just chill.
I'm thinking in the back of my head, is this some shit?
I say, Dana, what's that?
What's up, buddy?
What's you want to do?
He's like, man, whatever, rod, raw, whatever you want to do, I'm going to do it.
I say, fuck it, come on.
I pulled over to him.
There was a little crystals hamburger right down the corner, like a million hills, bro.
There's a crystal.
So I pulled into there.
I dropped him off.
I say, just wait right here, man.
We're going to do this.
So me and Dana, Dana jumped up in the front seat with me.
We pulled out of crisps.
We pull up to the bank.
So when we pull up to the bank, we got dark tinted windows on the Mustang.
So we're sitting out front, and we're waiting to try to get in
because I know you have to be buzzed in.
So I say, Dana, you see these two old people right here?
So when they get that door open, when they go, they buzz in, he's going to hold the door open.
we're going in bam he's all right so we wait in the people they're walking real slow they
walked out there soon as they pulled the door open they go in me and dana out of the car bam
i'm the first one in the door behind the people dana pushed them on the end he stood at the door
i'm over the counter bam i'm hitting all the tail of now check it this is my first bank
it happened so fast but in slow motion that i can almost remember everything that happened
I can remember Dana standing by the door.
There was a little kid trying to run out of the door.
He kept him from running out of the door.
I can remember, even though I'm at the towel is pulling all the tellers,
even at the drive-thru, I can remember the bank manager walking through
with just like with a graceful walk just saying,
just give them whatever they want.
Don't do anything.
Whatever they want, just do whatever they say.
So I'm still handling my beating the door,
what I'm supposed to do, and then Dana, like, let's go, let's go.
Boom, I jumped back across the counter.
Boom, we out of there, I jumped in the car,
went around the back of Publis where I had the second vehicle at, bam.
See, the reason why I parted the car behind Publis
because I wanted to give them a sense that I was driving down Hibana
because they're going to see me coming out,
driving down Hibana heading south.
But I dipped behind the Publix, jumped into my second vehicle,
and came out on Hillsborough and proceeded to go down Hillsborough heading east,
So I'm going to have all the polio.
Oh, they went that way.
I'm having them looking that way.
When Ashley, I'm in the second vehicle in a totally different car,
a totally different color heading in the opposite direction.
So anyway, Greg had a ride.
He met me back at my house.
We counted up the money that we had.
And Greg was like, man, I can't believe it.
Man, you did it.
Man, I can't believe.
Man, I can't believe it.
So this is the guy who started crying at the red light on, I mean, who didn't want to do it.
Even though he didn't participate, I still broke him off.
I think I got like $8,700, $8,700 out of the first one.
Very disappointing to me.
But nevertheless, I think I gave him like $500, $600,000 just for being there.
Plus, I wanted to make him a part of it.
even though he didn't participate, I wanted to make him a part of it that way he don't run his mouth, he don't tell, even though that was going to happen anyway.
After that, I was like, damn, my people were like, man, that was easy, man, we're going to have to do another one.
So I waited approximately like maybe like three, four months, and we scouted out to do another one.
My very second one I did off I, I mean, four street exit off of Gandhi in St. Pete.
Man, really nice.
I think I gross like 47,000.
I took like 47,000 out of there somewhere around there, 35,000, 47,000, 47,000.
It was all the same to me.
That particular one there, we were just, I just wanted to do something away from Tampa because it was already hot from the one before.
So I decided I'm going to go across the bridge.
We went across the bridge.
I seen it right there.
It was a nice location.
It was right off for Gandy and I, um, 4th Street.
Jump back on Gandy, do my little thing.
Nice.
so we got all the material everything all the tools we needed to pull the job off two cars whatever
went over there and we did it it was really easy now this particular bank right here what
I can what I can remember that's really outstanding to me is that in the process of me
grabbing all the money and getting the tellers hitting the tellers.
I can remember there was about three or four college kids who was standing in line
waiting to see the teller.
And I can just remember them saying, oh, fucking right, all right, go, go, go.
Hell yeah, yeah, buddy, go, go, go, go.
And I was like, damn.
So anyway, I hit him, which was a pretty good look.
I think I got somewhere between like 37,000, 40,000 or something like that.
there and made it to the second car, came across the bridge, crossed Gandy, and came to the
house that divided among the guys who I was with. And they went their separate ways.
Now, I, it wasn't like it was something planned. It wasn't like that I wanted to make this a thing
or I wanted to be a bank robbery or do banks all my life.
It was just something that happened out of the blue.
It was just something that I had been doing other things that wasn't really paying off.
I mean, my brother-in-law once, he's like, hey, man, I know this guy got like 10 pounds of weed.
He got like $20,000 in his house, and boom, you know, I know he, I've seen it in there.
last night. I seen in there last week or whatever. I was like, man, you sure, man? So I used to do
little things like that and it wasn't paying up when I got there, man. Tad the fucking house
up, do whatever I had to do to try to find it wasn't there. So I had to end up fucking getting
steaks out of the fridge or fucking lobsters or brand new Jordans or Nike's or something
just to make up for the time that I was spent trying to find this money with you.
wasn't there. So I just got tired and I said to myself, man, you know what? I'm putting my
life in freedom and jeopardy going to all these places ain't paying out. I need to do something
that I know it's going to be money. It's there. That's their job to have it there. And that
was what made me decide to. If I'm going to do something, I got to do it. Where's that?
if I'm going to take this risk
I got to make sure it's
worth it
so that's why I was like
you know I'm not messing with
nothing more of these petty drug deal
to these bish that don't got shit
I'm going to go right way the money's at
so I had did that for a while
and
end up by my
fifth
bank
I wanted to do something big
I wanted
I wanted to, like, not take over the bank because I still was on the time limit,
but I wanted to get the most.
And this was the first time I ever used two people, two guys to go over the counter.
It always was me because I know what I'm looking for.
I'm moving rapidly.
I don't want no problem.
So I always was the one to get the money.
But this time I wanted to use two because I felt like I'm going to get double the amount.
so I scoped out this one bank
it was like on line ball
and Anderson Road or
somewhere down there
I think it was like a Bank of America
no
whatever it was
it doesn't matter
so I felt like it was a pretty good
apartment complex set across the road
I can put my second car there
I can make it look like I'm going this way
I can I can pretty much do the same thing
and give them the illusion that I'm heading in one direction when I'm going to the other one.
So I got my crew together.
We got all the vehicles of the things that we was going to need to be able to pull it all successfully.
And we headed that away.
So when we got there, pull up in the driveway, in the parking.
And right in front of the bank, we was in a minivan.
And the reason why I started using minivans, because it's easy for you to be able to change your clothes,
stand up in the back of it.
your clothes and do what you have to do without being seen sliding door easy access to get
out you have multiple people so it was easy to start trying to climb across seats and cars so we
always use minivans for our first vehicle so when we pulled up to this bank which was like
approximately like 9.30 in the morning it was really nice so
when I pulled up to the front of the bank and decided this was the time to go in,
I was the first person through the door on the counter.
When I jumped over on top of the counter, there was money gathered all over the counter.
And what I figured and I found out is that Wells Fargo had just made a drop off at that bank
and the ladies was counting the bills and they had it all on the counter laid out.
So on top of the counter, I'm on the counter with my bag, just getting all the bills off the counter.
So I had another person also with me getting money while I had the other two people holding people at bay.
We get in the money, we get in the money, we get in the money.
This guy's getting the money.
I jumped down because I got all the everything out of the count off the top of the counter.
Now I'm hitting the drawers.
We're getting the money.
We're getting the money.
Boom.
My guy says it's time to go.
We jump over the back across the counter to head out, to proceed outside the bank.
And when we got back in the van, I'm the driver, always the driver.
I pulled to exit from the bank onto Anderson.
I was heading south, so I was making a right on the Anderson,
and I was going to make a really quick.
Once I made that bend, out of the view from the bank,
they couldn't see me once I made that bend.
I was going to dip into the apartment complex real quick
and chained it to my second car.
Soon as we pulled outside the bank,
the guy who went across the counter,
me was sitting in the front seat.
As soon as I went to make that turn, I just seen inside of the car.
He had took a wad of 20s, which was approximately like $2,000, I'm not mistaken,
$2,000 or $5,000, something like that.
He took a water 20s that had a dye pack in it, and he shoved it in his pen.
He was trying to cup, cup me.
He was trying to keep steal from us.
he was just trying to get that for itself
but
loiter that he know that that was a die pack
that blew up in his pants and he was over there sitting
while I'm driving trying to get away from the bank
we just robbed his bank
this guy sitting there like oh
what is fuck look what I was like
what the fuck
I was like pull it out pull it out
and he had a bunch of burnt up 20s
and smoke coming out
and I said throw it out the window
so he rolled the window down he threw it out the window
I'm like damn what happened
how that fuck that happened
and he was like
man, I just grabbed out, I just put it there
because of my bag had filled
and I just put it in my pan
and put it right there.
I was like, oh, don't worry about it.
Okay, that's right.
So we went to the second behavior.
I'm thinking, like, this motherfucker
was trying to cuff a whole stack of 20s
and the shit blew up in his pan.
And the first thing I told him was,
watch out for the 20s,
especially the ones over to the far left.
Most time it's going to be a die pack.
And he grabbed it and not paying attention
and it blew up in his pants.
But anyway,
we got out at which was a nice
dick because it was, it was, you know, substantial amount of money that was laying on the
counter. So I probably ended up with like 50, 60 grand from there. Went back to our house,
hired out, and divided it amongst the four people who participated in the bank robbery.
So as time went, you know, I had enough money for a period, for a long period of time that I wasn't really worried about doing anything for a minute.
And, you know, I was just chilling out, just doing my little things, selling a couple of little sacks of weed here and there, and just trying to stay out the way, stay out of trouble.
And one day, maybe like, I don't know, six, seven months.
I had someone come up to me and he said hey man I know these guys who want to rob the
armored car and I was like man shit an armor car I was like I ain't really
interested in doing the ummer car until he told me man the guy works on the car
he's gonna be real easy he works for the company he's where I like for real
oh shit okay I want to talk to him let me talk to him so he brought him over and um it was like a
Jamaican guy who works for Wells Farrow I think when he brought him over the guy even had
the Wells Farrow uniform on us something like something in that nature I remember seeing a Wells Fargo
uniform but anyway he was like yeah man you know he's driving a brand new Porsche he had been
taking little individual packs of money from other carts throwing in.
And his carts, when he had to go to Wells Farger, I guess, I can't remember what the
setup, but he was telling me some shit, like, when he had to get his cart, sometimes, you know,
it's not watching the way you, you know, you angle yourself, you can slide a pack of money
or off for one of the bins and put it in yours, and you just got to remember which one it is.
and he used to, like, take the cart, lower up his truck,
and he put to the side the one he took from somebody else's bin,
and then when he go to make his drops and stuff,
he'd get to, like, a public store or some type of grocery store
or a convenience store.
He'll go in the bathroom and hide it into the garbage bag,
call his brother up and have his brother,
hey, man, you got to get over there real quick
and get this money.
I just put $50,000 cash inside the bathroom, inside public's bathroom.
I was like, well, I, are you serious?
You used to do that.
He did it like three or four times.
So that's how he bought the Porsche.
So anyway, I said, yeah, man, tell me about the lake.
So he told him about the lake.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's going to be easy.
It's like about, we get like $250,000.
all right then i want to see it so the following day he came scooped me up pick me up and we decided to go
and check out this lick so this lick was over in st pete now they had took an old bank
and converted it into something they called the money store and this is a building that used
to be a bank and all the armored car drivers that's where they pull money
from to take to other banks or other facilities and stuff so that's why they
call it the money store because that's the only thing they did was house money
and and load up armored cars to deliver money to other facilities so he took
me over there I'm looking I'm looking I'm looking okay yeah I go I see the
guy come out with the money so I see him throwing it in the back of the
armored car. So I'm like, okay, what would we do? I would pull up from the side, catch him from
the side when he got his back to me. So as I'm watching, seeing it from a distance, I'm putting
my thoughts together, my plan together, how would I pull it off? Always going to be two cars,
going to be this, it's going to be that, I need this, need that. So I was like, yeah, man,
we can do it. So we went by head back to Tampa. And, um,
we decided we were going to do it.
So we meet up like two days later.
We meet up like two days later.
We have everything we need.
We got the minivan.
We got the second vehicle.
I think it was even a third.
We had even a third vehicle.
I even had a particular group of people
particular group of people watching me specifically that if anything happened to me if i had to get
on the run that they're going to meet me somewhere they're going to follow me or meet me at a distance
and they're going to scoop me up i had i always had my own safety net if anything ever happened
they're watching from a distance they can scoop me up take me out of harm's way so we got everybody
in place. We pull up. We send an eye spot. We see the armored car pull up. I got a bulletproof
vest on, gloves, ski mask, hoodie, everything. He got the same on. He's got a bulletproof vest.
We have a driver. We in the minivan. We've seen the armor car pull up to the money store.
The messenger. The messenger is a guy who, he's in the back. He does all the moving, moving
the money, go in the store. He's the messenger. And also the truck have a driver.
The driver is the person that drives.
He only drive.
He cannot open the door, get out of the van.
But he has portholes that he's capable and able to be able to shoot from.
So once the messenger got the doors open to the truck,
he went inside the money store and came back out with a big, like, laundry bin full of money.
We pull up to the side.
And when we pull up to the side, I was the first person.
out of the minivan, I opened up the door. I had a 44 Red Desert Eagle, Red Hawk, Desert Eagle, some shit.
And when I came out of the minivan, the messenger seen me, left all the money right there and ran to the front of the truck.
I went to the rear of the truck stood right here just to see where he went.
I turned back around to start grabbing the money to throw into the minivan.
My guy, he stood at the back of the truck watching the messenger at the front of the truck.
So when I went to grab the money to throw in the back of the truck, it slipped because of the gloves.
It was saran wrapped money in a square by this big right here, saran wrapped together with,
I think it was in some kind of cloth material out first, and then it was wrapped with plastic.
So when I went to try to grab it and having a gun right here, the money slipped out my hand.
That's when the messengers started shooting at my guy.
So they started exchanging gunfire back and forth.
So I went down to try to grab the money again, and it was so freaking heavy.
I couldn't get it to throw it in the minivan.
The driver started shooting at me.
I grabbed my 44, and I upped it into the back of the truck where the,
the driver was and now I granted we have a truck I don't know maybe what 10 feet 10 feet long 9 10 feet
long I'm not sure how long a truck is I'm a truck but I know personally that the driver was no
more than like seven six seven feet from me sitting in the back of the truck I'm standing and
the center of the back of the truck where the door is open.
He has two portholes that he can shoot out of.
I am standing there.
When I up to 44 on the first pull, when I pulled it, the gun from the concussion, from the
pressure from the gun, it just started going off, boom, boom, boom, boom, because I tried
to shoot it with one hand.
Now, the driver is shooting at me through the hole, and I'm still trying to handle the gun
shooting back at him.
and he's shooting at me through the porthole
and when I turned to my right
and I seen that the minivan was starting to leave
I then turned around this way to my left
and I end up dropping the gun
and it slipped out of my hand
I dropped the gun
I ran and jumped inside the minivan
because the sliding door was open on the minivan
and this guy was waiting for his brother to get in
because he was going to fucking leave me
that's the only thing I can think of
he was going to leave me if I wouldn't have made it to that
van he was going to leave me
at the time I'm running to jump inside
the minivan the driver
and the messenger
is shooting out all the windows
in the minivan so when I
dived in it by me diving in it
kept me down kept me from being able to get
shot but I got shot in my
heel and my
buddy's brother got shot
in the back of his head which graves him
and he was bleeding
from the back of his head down.
I had on a black bulletproof vest
and he had on a white bulletproof vest.
So I can see the blood
leaking from his head down on the bulletproof vest
because it was white and the blood was red.
So I was like, damn, trying to figure out
where he got hit at,
but it had got hit crazy
in the back of his head
and started leaking onto the vest.
So we made it to our second vehicle.
Well, we were getting away.
They were just running down.
the road, the driver, I mean, the messenger running down the road, just shooting out of the van,
trying to stop the van from getting away. So we got to the light, the light was red. He wanted
to stop at the light. I was like, man, go, go, go. I made him run the light, go to our second
vehicle. We got to the second vehicle. We changed cars. And we made across the bridge,
back across, I think we came Howard Franklin, across the Howard Franklin Bridge.
inside a vehicle he was saying that he was going to Orlando to take his brother because his
aunt was a nurse in Orlando and he wanted to seek medical attention from his brother with a gunshot wound
in the back of his head. So all this going on, I make it back to my place. I'm chilling. I'm kind of
like stressing going by what just fucking took place. And at the, um,
at the money store, I was trying to rob this armored car.
So, I, um, you know, my girl, she knows all about it and everything, and she kind of comfort me.
And we're watching the TV, watching a movie, as some, I get a knock at the door.
I get this knock at the door, and my girl goes to answer the door, and it's his hill.
Borough County Sheriff's Department.
So I'm like, fuck.
Oh, shit.
So she's like, yeah, he's here.
Like, what are you here for?
He's got a warrant out for arrest for the Mexico violence.
I'm like, fuck.
And she's like, no, I dropped the charges.
There was something.
We had a little disagreement, a little argument,
and I dropped the charges on them.
And, you know, I'm not holding any charges against him.
And he was like, well, the judge still want to see him.
They still got the charges.
for domestic violence, so we're going to have to take him out, but you can come and bond him out.
So I was like, fuck, I can't believe it. After what just took place a day, this guy has come
to arrest me on a domestic violence chart. So I was like, okay, cool, I'm going to keep my cool
because I just had to go along with it. I didn't want to bring no attention to myself.
So he arrests me. He take me down around the corner. I think at the time I stayed on like
sliding 50th Street. He pulled into a baking apartment complex to do his paperwork. And at that
time, he let me use his personal phone to call my girl to just talk to her while he does the
paperwork. So after doing the paperwork, we proceeded to go to Orange Road, which I was booked in
on domestic violence charge. And I had to go in front of the judge in order for him to see what
what was going to take place.
So now, that night,
I'm going through it.
I'm stressing.
I was like, damn, I just fucking try to out with this armored car.
These man, come and I don't want to be in here,
and they find out it's me, and then they try to,
oh, Lord, shit, I got to get the hell out of here.
I was like, man, this is not good.
So I'm inside my cell.
I'm tripping.
I'm like, man, how did this fucking happen after what happened the day now I'm fucking in here date on the same freaking day?
I was like, okay, I'm just wait until I see the judge.
So I lay down to go to sleep.
I think I was in a cell by myself at this time.
It wasn't too busy, too crowded inside the pod.
It was just like a one-man cell.
I fell asleep.
Inside of me sleeping, I'm having this dream
about the armored car robbery that happened earlier that day.
I'm playing this shit back in my head inside my dream.
In my dream, I'm seeing everything that took place, me coming out,
shooting slow motion, everything moving in slow motion.
But it was just one particular thing inside the dream that was going on,
that was confusing the hell out of me.
while I was
standing or sleeping
inside my dream
I kept hearing
this sound
was like
pshu
pshu
pshu
but I'm dreaming
and I'm like
not knowing
not really
sure what was that noise
what was it coming from
I know I was dreaming
so I was like
fuck
but
when I'm hearing that noise
I wake up in like a cold sweat
I'm like
oh fuck
What was that noise?
What was that noise?
So I said, you know what?
I'm going to go back to sleep.
I'm going to lay back down.
I'm going to go back to sleep.
I'm going to go back to that dream.
And I'm going to figure out, I'm going to slow.
I'm going to figure out what the fuck is that noise.
So I somehow lay back down.
I fell asleep.
And I went right back to that dream.
And inside the dream, I'm seeing it all again.
But I'm telling myself, I need to slow.
it down, slow the dream
down for I can see exactly where that
noise is coming from.
And inside that dream, when I
slowed it down, that noise
was coming from
bullets. The bullets that was being shot
from the driver who was shooting through the portholes
at me. They were just whizzing
by me, and that
was that
psh-psh-p-noyce that I heard in my dream.
So I was like,
fuck.
man
this guy
is rat
no more than
five, six feet
from me
shooting at me
but the bullets
are going around me
I'm like
I have some angels
um
anyway
eventually I got a chance
to see the judge
and I think I was on
probation at the time
he just
reinstated
my probation
brought me
back in front with the person who dropped the charges against me and just close the case
on the domestic violence charge because the person who dropped the charges wasn't going to
testify against me.
So I don't think at that time, State was picking up cases and stuff like that.
It wasn't just that serious.
But I ended up getting that case dropped and just end up finished doing my probation
for whatever else I think I had like a Grand Theft Auto or something that I was on at the time.
So as time went by, I kind of chilled out, chilled out on doing banks and stuff.
I was, you know, just doing a little petty ends and all that things, you know, making a few hundred dollars a day here and there, you know,
had little
connections with
weed and just
doing a cup of sex
here and there
with friends and family
and people who
were smoking
and wanted to smoke
I was just trying to make
a few dollars that way
and
after that
I decided to
get back in the nick of things
I had this girl come up to me
who was my girl's
best friend
and, you know, I hadn't robbed the banker
or did anything in quite some time
but I was okay as far as money was concerned
you know, I wasn't hurting for nothing
and I had this girl come up to me
and she was like,
bro, I need you.
And I'm like, damn.
what was up?
She's like, man, you and I are going to believe.
I ended up having an accident in Ebor over the weekend.
And, you know, this girl pulls up and she ends up slamming her brakes
and I end up hitting her from the back.
But we both got out of the car and we went and looked at the car
and I didn't have any damage to my car
and she didn't have any damage to her car.
And we just agreed that it was okay.
We were just going to go off.
But I found that she called the cops and said I did a hit and run.
I was like, what?
Are you serious?
She's like, yeah, man.
She ended up fucking calling the cops, so I want to get my, I have that little bit of damage on my car right there.
I just want to get that fixed, and I just want to paint my car for they won't know it was me.
I like, so what do you want me to do?
She's like, man, I will do anything, man.
I don't know what you'd be doing, but I know you'd be coming up with money and stuff.
but I do whatever you can do in my car.
I drive, whatever you want to do.
I do it then up to get out of this jam with this car.
I'm like, damn.
I like, man, I'll see what's up.
I'll see what's up.
I'll get back with you.
So I'm thinking like, damn, man,
this girl going to be messing with me about trying to help her get some money.
And I definitely don't want to come out of my pocket.
I was like, I don't mind doing something.
to get a few extra dollars, but
it's got to be the right
thing. So
I went on the scout.
I went out looking around
try to find
something close in the area that we had to go too
far.
And
then I can
be able to help this girl for she can be able
to get out of her little jam.
So I found
one which was on
Heim's. I think
it was like a little son banker
or some type of bank,
a little sun bank or something
on Himes, right between Hillsboro and MLK.
And it was like perfect to me
because it had those high branches
that was like hiding the building
for the people to pass her by
as the cars going down the street
couldn't really see what was going on
because they had those high bushes
so high that was surrounding the building.
So I was like, damn, okay, cool.
It's like, all right, let me get everybody up together.
We're going to get all the stuff I'm going to need to be able to pull this off.
And since I'm already got a stolen car hitting over here,
I don't have to use a second car because I'm going to have her use her car.
That's how I'm going to use her.
I'm going to have her use her car.
I'm going to break her off with just doing that right there.
And then, you know, made me a few dollars in the process.
So I'll say, look, man, chat this out.
I'm Finnegera and do this lick.
Did I tell her?
Yeah, I told her what was a bang,
but I just wanted her to wait for me in the spot
in my second location.
She didn't really have to have too many,
too much ideas of what was going on,
but I just want her to be the second vehicle
and be in that location.
Cool.
So I got my people together,
so we went in, pulled a lick off,
end up getting like 21, $22,000 out of it.
there, got back to the, to where the second car was at, left the stolen vehicle, they
jumped into her vehicle, not knowing at the time that when we transferred from one vehicle
to the next, there was somebody on the second floor in the apartment looking at the window
at us.
So we got in the vehicle, switched cars, got in her vehicle, proceeded to go to where I left my
vehicle at before we can just leave her vehicle over here.
another apartment complex off of MLK, got in my vehicle, went back to my place, broke
everybody off, and everybody went on their separate way. So this is the story that I heard
that in the process of us dropping off the first vehicle to get in her vehicle, the guy up
top seeing us getting in her vehicle.
I don't know if he got her tag number.
I know he got the making model.
But I'm not sure if he got the tag number or not.
But when the police and the helicopter was looking for the first vehicle,
they seen I had ducked and tucked it over in this apartment complex.
You had to see it from a helicopter because you couldn't see it from the road
because you turn in and you go right there.
You had to pull in and be searching or see it from the helicopter.
They came over there to get the first vehicle that we went up in the bank in, and they were looking for witnesses, people who were seeing anything.
So the guy on the second floor who were looking out of the window, most of seeing all the police and the cops down there looking at the vehicle we had just left there, and he decided to come down and tell his side of the story, so to speak.
Excuse me
So when this guy
Come down
To tell his side of the story
He told the cops exactly what he's seen
Oh yeah, I've seen like three or four people
Come get out of this car
They got in another car
They got in this car
And decided to head, pull out
And head to
Armenia because we were closest to
Aminia than we were to Himes
and Hibana. So we pulled out and made that right turn and got on
Aminia and headed to our
to the location to
distribute the money.
Now, they
got the information about her car
from the guy on the second floor.
So when he gave him the call of the car
and making them all and shit, they started looking for
that vehicle. And they found
it in the second location
that we put it off into another
apartment complex. They ran
the bin number, got her tag number, and found out
there was her car.
At that time,
if I can remember correct,
she I'm not sure how it went down man
only thing I know it they knew about her car and they were on her ass
she called me up and told me man these people are saying my car was used in some kind of robbery
whatever whatever whatever and I was like what you said like yeah it wasn't me and I couldn't
be in my car it's got to be somebody else or whatever
like you just stick with that story you don't know shit just telling just like that so I'm like
oh shit it's about to go down so now they got some information about car that was used a person
who might have been involved and stuff like that so you already know they're going to be watching
so I'm trying to keep my distance from that person and my furthest distance as possible from that
person but somehow the person
Okay, so her nephew used to do little end job with me, you know, little weed and stuff.
We used to go get a little stolen items selling stuff like that.
And he knew about the things I did, and he was connected to her.
So somehow he had some kind of connections with the police.
He was involved in some kind of home invasion, and they,
found in his house a jacket that he had stole from a squat team member's house in Brandon.
So he was already in the system on investigation talking to the police anyway. Somehow he
mentioned my name. I got involved so they had been watching me. I didn't even know. So around
December 23rd, which was my birthday. So like, well, yeah, on my birthday, I woke up that morning.
we decided we were going to go deep sea fishing out clear water on the double eagle deep sea fishing so i was like okay
my birthday i'm going fishing so we're going to take my daughter and drop her off at the daycare and then
my son was going to go with me i had my son too julian he was with me so we went to drop my daughter
off well before i went to drop my daughter off when i when i came outside to get in the vehicle
there was a fucking large like white bread bus like those bread those um those buses that carry bread
like wonder bread trucks like almost like a box truck kind of thing where it was like a brand new one
sitting outside in front of my house with you know all the other cars and stuff in the parking
lot next to my car with dark tinted windows you couldn't see in it and at the time
we were having fiber octet lines put down in the apartment complex.
So I'm thinking that these were the guys who was working for the fiber optic.
And they parked so fucking close to my car that I wasn't able to open up the passenger side of the door
to put my door in the car seat.
So I'm like, I'm trying to look into this fucking van.
I'm trying to look into it, but the window's so dark.
And I'm walking around by the pool.
I'm carrying her.
I'm walking around by the pool.
I'm like, these motherfuckusks, you better be glad.
So I had to put her in through the driver's side, through the car seat, lean over and put her in the car seat, and then, you know, get in.
And I had to pull out and let my son get in through the passenger side and let my girl get in, in the front passenger side.
So we decided to leave.
We pull out, and I'm going to drop my daughter off to the daycare, and then I was going to get some breakfast from McDonald's and head back to the house to pick up all the fishing gear.
and head out to clear water.
So I'm not knowing at this time
the whole time that I have
the feds, FBI, following me around.
I'm not even knowing
I was smoking that morning.
I was high, so I wasn't really paying attention.
It was my birthday, so
it was enough to me to be paying attention
that closely to vehicles around me, I guess.
I don't know.
But I end up
going by a friend of mine
and let him know that, you know, I'm going out to Clearwater.
He owned a pawn shop that used to be red down Hillsboro and, like, Rome.
Rome, yeah, like Rome, Hillsborough and Rome.
He owned this pawn shop.
His name was Rock, Rockamar, a real good friend of mine.
And I stopped by and say, hey, man, check this out.
My birthday, today I'm going out of Clearwater.
He's like, hey, man, when you get finished coming back from fishing,
just come over here, I got something for you.
I said, all right, cool, I see you when I get back.
So I turned out of the pawn shop because I live right down the street
from where his pawn shop was at, an apartment complex over there.
So I pulled out, I'm heading down towards apartment complex.
I pull right in front of my apartment, and I'm getting ready to get out.
So I put the car in park, and I look up to the left side of,
I lived on the right side on the second floor, but I looked up on the left side,
on the second floor, I seen two white guys with like, they had on the same thing, like jeans
and like just two shirts, white shirts.
I'm thinking they might be like some cable guys or, you know, someone trying to sell something.
So I happened, I just peeked up there and I seen them.
So I put the car in part.
When I turned the car off and went to open up the door, the whole squat team that was in that
band was on my ass.
and they were so happy they got me they were like persistent pays all right and um the wine
guy's like hi hey how you're doing i'm i'm in charge here i'm sergeant maclemyre and happy birthday
and um persistent pays we've been out here since six o'clock in the morning we could have got you
when you first came out with your daughter but we didn't want to do it out of way we didn't
want to traumatize your kids so we waited to a convenient time for us to get you
you so you know this guy you know that guy and long story short I was booked
in here well I went to Orient Road and then they moved me from Orange Road
to Morgan Street which was our county and federal holo facility in Hillsburg
County I was booked in and
I never seen the streets again for eight years.
That day, I was booked in.
I was charged with armored car robbery
and some home invasion kind of stuff
that the kid had told the sheriff about
that's how they got on to me
and then they started connecting the dots
and putting everything together.
So I was booked in
for
armored car robbery
and approximately
six to seven
home invasions
at that time
I was like
I'm never going
I'm never going to see the streets again
I'm never going to get out
matter of fact
the feds came
to interview me, they pulled me in to the room, and they go,
you might as well tell us everything you know,
because you're never going to see the streets again.
I'm like, shit, since I'm never going to see the streets again,
I ain't telling y'all shit.
I'm never seeing the streets again.
There ain't no sense of me having to say anything to y'all.
Well, we got your wife, we're going to get your wife to,
and you know what, she's going away for a long time.
I'm like, hey, man, y'all do what you got to do.
You do what you got to do.
I ain't telling y'all shit.
I don't know shit. I ain't never seen the streets again. So they left. They were pissed. So they took me back to my
cell. I called my girl up. I said, hey, man, look, don't ever, don't leave the house. Stay in my mom's house.
Don't leave because they say they're going to get you. They're going to charge you with this, that, and the other.
So if I was you, I wouldn't leave. Just stay in the house. So the day, the next day she gets up. She tried to leave.
she decided she wanted to go out from my mom's house on 34th and MLK go to the bus stop and get on the bus and head down to her mom's house.
So as soon as she came at the house and went and stood on, MLK, the feds pulled up to her and arrested her with my daughter and took her and booked her in and charged her with all these charges that they tried to throw on me.
The reason why they did that because they wanted her to tell on me
And I told her, look, man, do what you got to do
You have to be on the street
Tell them whatever you feel like you have to tell them
You know, do what you got to do
Don't worry about me, I got me
So
They let her out
And she, I guess she was like
Showing them that she was trying to, she was cooperating with them
You know, you know, telling them so much
tell them pretty much the shit they already knew to try to make it look like she was working with
them. And then I was like, man, look, don't even sweat it. Just do what you got to do of
shit. I'm the one who got myself in this. I'm the one going to get myself out. So when I got
booked in at Morgan Street, I already know about not talking to people when you get booked
in. People try to get on your case. They want to try to get time cut, reduced from telling
on you or what you said to them, they got shit. So you do not talk to no one, period. You try
to refrain from having conversation with anybody when you place in that position. So one day,
like my second or third day in there, I think I'm having chow after chow or something,
and I had this old black man come up to me that I never, I never talked to this guy. I don't
even remember if I ever seen him before in there, but he just came up to me and he goes,
Hey, buddy, he's like, you, uh, you ever heard of a proffer agreement?
I say proffered agreement, no.
He's like, well, if you ever did anything out there and you never got called for it,
you may ask you a lawyer about a proper agreement because if you get on this and you get
sentenced for this, this charge right here, and then somebody out there to say, oh, I did this
with Rob, Batman, what I did it with him, then they can come and re-indict you and get you
consecutive sentence on top of the sentence that you're on.
I was like, damn, really?
So I knew I had did like 10 bank robbers.
I was like, oh, freak, man, I'm going to call my lawyer.
So I called my lawyer and I say, hey, buddy, how are you doing, sir?
I like, you ever heard of a proper agreement?
I was like, what's a proper agreement?
You're like, a proper agreement if you have some crimes that was committed
and they were never solved, no one's never been charged.
with it and it have to be information that the prosecutor or whoever they're willing to
to listen it has to be something they think that's good substantial that they can be able to
crack these solve these cases I like what if I know about somebody that robbed 10 banks
because I really didn't want to put me out there right then yet so I said what if I know
about someone who robbed 10 banks and he's like if
If you know about someone to rob 10 banks, you're going home tomorrow.
And I was like, really?
I'm like, damn, I'm going home?
He's like, man, if you know about 10 banks and the guy never got called,
you're going home.
I was like, okay, well, hey, go tell them, whoever you need to talk to, tell them
that I know about 10 banks and I want to see what they can do.
And so he went and talked to the federal prosecutor at the time.
And my federal prosecutor, man, I can't.
He was a blight guy.
He was a black federal prosecutor.
And I can't remember his name, but I do want to say like a year two later after our sentence,
he left being a prosecutor here in Florida and went to.
Washington, D.C. to be President Clinton's Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense or Secretary for
something. And he came, talked to me, and told me what the deal would be. He's like,
look, I am making you no promises. I'm going to send two investigators to talk to you
in the beginning of the week. And if it's something that I'm willing to listen to or something
that I think might be good, helpful for my case, then I'll get with your lawyer and we'll let him
know what we can do for you. I was like, okay, cool shit, because at the time, shit, I want to help
my PSI, my pre-sentence investigation report came back 27 years, and I just knew that, look,
I got to be able to help myself, some kind of way. So, by the black gentleman, telling me about
The proffer agreement was something that I like to see, something I did.
I don't have to say something about someone else.
It's something, the crimes that I committed, if I can use that to get leniency towards my case or my sentence, then cool, the best for me.
So I end up being called out that Monday.
Now, like I was saying earlier, my prosecutor ended up, like a year later, going to work for Clinton in the White House.
And how I know about this is because I was sitting there after my sentencing, I got moved to Brooksville, Hernandez County.
That was a federal hole over.
It was like a CCA, a private jail.
And I was just sitting in the TV room one day.
watching the news or something, and a picture of my prosecutor came up saying that he just got
promoted to Secretary of State or Secretary or Defense or something working for President Clinton.
I was like, fuck, I can't believe it's this mother.
But anyway, so on that Monday, he sent two agents over to talk to me and asked me about
the information that I was talking to my lawyer and the federal prosecutor about, and I told him
all right
come in how y'all doing
my name's Robert Edwards
we went inside the chapel
they had a seat
I had a seat
and I told them
about the very very
first bank I robbed
and that was the bank
where the guy started crying
he didn't want to rob it with me
I had to put him out at the
at the crystals hamburger
and I proceeded to do the bank without them
so I told them
about that bank it took approximately
an hour
an hour and a half to tell them how I came from point A to point B how I when I told them
about the bank robber I told them about everything the planning how I came up with the idea
how what I wanted them to know specifically about everything that took place in order for me
to be able to pull it off I mean because if people already said look don't hold shit back
if you we want to know everything if you tell you
tell us or lie to us about anything, we'll take it away.
We won't give you credit for the information that you gave us.
I'm like, well, I'm going to make sure they had, know, everything.
So anyway, I told the story about the first bank I arrived.
I think I only told like one or two.
I think I was able to get into the second bank at that time after I told about the first bank.
There was an older FBI agent in a younger one.
The older one was approximately, I'm going to say like 65, and the younger guy, he was
like in his early 30s.
So when I told him about that first bank that I robbed on Hillsboro and Havana, we finished
up that day, I went back to my cell and they came the following day.
When they came to get me the following day, the two agents was already there waiting for me outside the door of the chapel.
And as I'm walking up with the CEO, the younger guy came up to me like, he was like, oh, fuck, hey, bro, man, you know, I went back and I pulled the movie, I pulled the video recording of the break that you robbed on Hillsborough and Havana.
He's like, bro, fuck, soon as you open up the door, your first step, you're over the fucking counter, like, so fast.
He's like, man, why are you playing basketball or football?
He's like, man, you're fucking quick, you were in and out of that place and I'm, and I'm standing there looking at him like, okay, yeah, I'm like thinking to myself, like, this is an FBI guy.
He's like fucking pulling me.
He's like pulling my dick about what I've done.
Or, you know, he's like cheering for me.
like, you know, boosting on my eagle or something.
And I was like, wow.
He's like, man, bro, you should be playing football or basketball or something
because as soon as you open up the door, your first step, you're over the counter,
like in one leap.
And I was like, I had to do what I had to do.
I had to get in and out.
But anyway, I'll make a long story short.
I proceeded to finish up telling them about the banks that I robbed, how I did it.
where they were done, how much money was taking, what I was wearing at the time.
And by me doing that, they knocked from a 27-year sentence,
knocked me down to a 10-year sentence.
They knocked 17 years off my sentence by me telling them about the 10 banks that I robbed
and never got called for.
Now, I'm not saying that I'm proud or I'm bragging about anything.
I'd done. I guess at the time it was something that I felt like I had to do at the time because of the
situation I was in. I felt like by me getting a job having to put a weekend, you know,
a week in a hold before you get your first check and I'm already behind in my rent. I'm already
laid on my electric even though there was no excuse, but I felt like I needed money then.
I feel like everything I did throughout my life made me the person I am today
I respect me a lot because I'm still a people person
I still help people on the street I ran my own business
I had at least throughout the years in the last 12 years of me
running my own business I had at least 15 people working for
me and you can ask any one of the 15 people about me, what kind of person I am.
I'm always going to be good at what I do.
I'm the type of person that feels like if I'm going to do it, I'm going to put my best into it
or I rather not do it at all.
I'm going to be the best.
I don't even compete with people anymore because I am going to outdo anybody
who
entering with me
pretty much so to speak
because that's what type of person I am
that's what kind of work mentality I have
I want to be the best
I want to be the best at what I do
and if I do it I want to be the one
that stand out doing it
and
me robin ten banks
me robin ten banks
for such
a period of time
never getting caught
I never once got caught
in the action
they never even got close
but I could say this
that about all the people in the world
I'm probably one of
of
people that's walking the street
that's robbed ten banks in the armored car
and still out here on the bricks.
I mean, my brother-in-law came to me one time.
He said to me, like, man, I'm going to be honest with you.
There ain't many people out here like you.
And I was always used to be like,
damn, what do you mean?
Robbed ten banks in an armored car.
It's not like still.
and some gum inside a candy store.
It's not like jumping over somebody fence
and taking the basketball out of their yard.
And I'm still able to sit here and tell my story.
When every time, each and every time,
my life and freedom was jeopardized.
So I wouldn't really take back anything I ever did
throughout my life because of the simple fact.
I think that made me the person I am today.
For a fact, I know it made me the person I am today.
And I'm 56 years old, and I really enjoy being the person I am today,
regardless of my past, my background, my history.
If I was to die today, I'm comfortable with everything I did through our
life. I'm happy just for me being able to make it to this age and being the condition and the
shape and the health that I'm in because of I didn't have a hard, hard life, but it wasn't a silver
spoon. It wasn't easy. And I just want to thank you everyone for listening to me, and I hope you
enjoyed my story
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