Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - SCAMMER STEALS $4M NYC HOME (The Real Story)
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These people broke into my house and claiming that they're the new owners.
They give me out the property.
The DA, the Attorney General, everyone is aware of what's going on with the property.
Are they doing anything about it?
Absolutely not.
They are taking our properties rapidly.
I took my father on a trip and I noticed that there was some things going on with my dad
that was just a little strange.
It wasn't his normal behaviors, kept repeating things.
And we went to a restaurant, he asked to use his phone because he wanted to call his wife.
And we was like, your wife, what do you mean?
Who did you, what do you mean?
You got married.
And he was like, yeah, I'm married.
And I said, to who?
When did you get married?
Like, we had no idea.
So he said, oh, her name is Karen.
We was like, Karen.
So we were like, okay, all right, something is terribly going on because we didn't know who this woman was.
We didn't have no idea.
We heard about him in Atlanta, you know, having like family gatherings.
We had knew that it was some woman, but we didn't know to the fact that he had married her.
So I noticed that he had like some leashes on his skin.
And I was like, I'll set up an appointment for him to go to the dermatologist.
I'll fly down because like I said, I worked for the airline.
So I'm able to fly back and forth.
I'll go and I'll fly down and take him to the doctor and see about them.
And at that point, from day one when I decided to kind of assist and help with his medical and, you know, fly to Atlanta,
I found out at that point that this lady that he allegedly married, he had such a problem with it.
So we took them, you know, I had rented a car.
We went to the dermatologist and then I saw, you know, she ended up going because she insisted.
It was like, fine, you know.
And she basically was filling out all the documents for my dad at the doctors and I filmed it.
Like I sat on the side and filmed it and I went back to my siblings.
Like, I think there's something wrong.
And then it just was a series of events.
You think she's taking advantage of him?
It was absolutely.
I saw it from day one.
And so when I saw it from day one, I mentioned it to my siblings like, listen, I think
there's something going on here.
I think that we need to be concerned about it.
And then, you know, we just basically was going from a medical perspective, like just
taking him on a series of, you know, try to get doctors, visits to see.
He had some previous health conditions.
was he, you know, following up on his doctor's appointment, stuff like that.
And everything was a pushback.
So it became more alarming and more alarming because everything with this woman was a pushback, everything.
So then we put, we put, like, trackers on the, we did everything.
We put trackers on the car.
We put, we would film.
We were record any time we was in the presence.
So then we know, we start informing all the agencies like, hey, there's something going on.
We became power of attorney.
We saw the accounts.
We saw money just being transvers from left to right.
And then all these series of events, it ended up,
we ended up going to look for a conservative in a guardianship situation
because no one was listening to us about what was going on.
What is she saying?
She just is like, no, that's not what happened.
That's not what's happening, honey.
You know, she was causing a lot of, you know, telling him that's not what's going on.
And we're like, we're seeing the account, and we're seeing the money being transferred.
And the last event that occurred is I took him to the decodontist doctor to get tested.
And in the doctor's office, because I had the access to the account, I looked at it on the phone, $17,000 gone in the way.
And you know, the doctors are mandated reporters.
So if you look at the paperwork, it says it on the paperwork that the daughter stayed in that
$17,000 is removed out of his account.
And that's what led us to the point where we're like,
okay, we need to do something, you know, about it.
And that's what we went and applied for guardianship and the conservatorship
because we saw that these, we saw it the whole time,
but nobody was doing anything about it.
Everyone we went to, it was like on deaf airs.
And so then COVID kind of came.
You know, we were, you know, in the process of trying to go to court,
petition the court, you know, speak with, you know, go in front of the attorney, I mean, go in front
of the judge to, you know, try to get, you know, guardianship over our dad. And during court,
I mean, they do a lien report. They do a whole compiling evidence. It said that my sister and I
would be a perfect fit for it. When we went to court, everything changed. So we're like,
wait a minute. Because it lets you know pretty much what your outcome could possibly be. A judge changed
instantly like no we'll be a neutral party we were like what do you mean my father has five kids
why would you be a neutral party over us to make sure my father was taking care of and they were like
oh we're going to protect this money okay what about his health they didn't even do that for his health
they went right to dhs well now looking back it was against the law you're supposed to do the order
of preference they never do the order of preference and explain why if I didn't chickpick this
child why I didn't pick this child but we didn't know until now that that was done illegally so then
here we are again a series of events with my dad into this guardianship and conservatorship
where is this in Atlanta Georgia was the conservator and guardianship I was going to say um I've
you know obviously I know a bunch of obviously criminals um but I would be locked up and when someone
would run let's say a Ponzi scheme
or even just whatever, just straight fraud.
These guys are just stealing.
Yes.
And they're running, they're doing something.
They bring in a...
Could be a conservative of shit?
Well, it's a guy.
Somebody comes in and they have a different name port where the guy comes in and sells
off everything.
Oh, yes.
That's what they do.
They're attorneys.
That's what they are.
It's an attorney.
It's an attorney.
It sells off everything.
But like the judge will appoint someone that's kind of like he knows.
Exactly.
So I know Todd.
He's a good guy.
Yep.
And Todd ends up selling all your stuff.
And you're like, okay, well, that vehicle's worth $20,000.
Even if Todd's not great at it, he's just trying to get rid of this stuff as quick as possible,
maybe it sells for 15.
It doesn't sell for three.
Right.
To your buddy who then resells it for 15 and then cuts you to check back.
There was, I had a buddy, I had a buddy who they liquidated, is it a conservatory?
I forget what they called the guy.
But anyway, the amount of fraud, this guy stole.
during the process of it he stole two and a half million dollars of all the money that was so he's
selling the stuff and then he's charging these outrageous fees and the person that has to sign off
on the fees is the judge who's his buddy that's exactly what they're doing and so this guy anyway
so he did it with this guy so with my buddy who's in prison so now you're you're ripping off
that my buddy just ripped off right now he's ripping them off yeah again uh in collusion with the judge
And what happened was this guy.
So it wasn't, you know, once that, like he was complaining about it.
But what's ultimately ended up happening was like five years into his sentence, that guy gets indicted by the FBI for like tax fraud because the IRS comes in.
And then he gets indicted for tax fraud and then come to fight.
No, no, no, he still, no, during the course of the whole thing, they realize you're, you're stealing money and now you're not even paying taxes on it.
Yeah.
And he ends up going to prison.
I think he got like 12 years.
Actually, I want to say this guy.
So lawyers don't do well when you give them sentences to go to prison.
Anyway, but yes, the same type of thing is it's the judge appointing a buddy.
Yep.
They put a buddy.
It's the good a voice.
Well, it's a RICO.
It's a really a RICO case.
It really is a RICO because they all conspired together to take these people.
And that's what happened.
We couldn't believe it.
So that's what was happening with this.
That's what happened with my dad, like in real time.
That's what happened to my dad.
But not knowing to us because you're going to the same people for help.
and they do this to you and we couldn't believe it and so what they did was the same attorney
he had a property in new york that it was you know it was they were having a litigation in the
with this property right it was a relative that said that he was an heir to it and we want to sell off
this property and so that's what the the conservative did the conservative had his plaintiffs the
plaintiff's attorney, sign the documents, sign the documents in the court, file it in court,
and did it act like they went to New York and literally filed, because you're supposed to do it
in the state where the property is.
They sold, they literally sold the property from Georgia, which you can't because it's
based on jurisdiction.
But they filed the paperwork and made it look as if it was a legitimate sale.
And then that's when these people came, when I showed you the video, how they just broke into
my property and said that they were the new owners of the property initially of your property
of our property yes or your dad's property was my dad it was my dad's property we live you know living in
i'm the we're the POA over the property okay but yes that's what they did they broke into the property
saying that they are the actual owners of it but there's a certain way that you can only inquire a
property right in an estate sale you can't do a backdoor deal and sign off and then the the
conservative was in Georgia that signed off in Georgia for the property in New York.
Okay.
You can't do that.
Right.
Right.
And that's what she did.
She basically tried to liquidate all of his assets.
And then we got a call not too long ago as well because he had a property in New York
and a property in Georgia.
And we got a call from the claims department with the insurance.
And we're like, hey, we need to, you know, we need accommodations.
We just had accommodations for who?
They were like, we need to get accommodations for the property in Georgia.
We were like, what do you mean, accommodation?
They were like, there was a fire in the property.
We were like, when nobody, well, the guardian of conservatorship, they're not paying any
of my father's bills, so his phone was off.
So, but they have our numbers to cause.
Nobody called us, informed them that his property had caught on fire in Georgia.
So, you know, so that's what they'll do.
They'll take everything, liquidate it, burn it down, and just write it up and make it look
like it was a legitimate claim and it and it's not this is what they're doing they're still in the
properties from when was this this happened the beginning of the year this the last thing that just
occurred with the fire was it was it was it was just the beginning of the year in January we it was
January actually 24th we got the call that there was a fire in the property but the the fire actually
happened January 13th and no one told us anything about it was the claims department that called us
saying that they needed accommodations.
And then my brother ended up going to the property when the justers went, when they went
into the house, none of my father's alleged wife, none of her things were in there.
She had already moved out.
She was gone out of the property.
Only things that was in the property was my father's thing.
So we start calling the investigation.
We was like, they set this place on fire.
But from my understanding, it's really hard to prove an arson case.
Right. Unless they use like gasoline or something like that. So that's another thing. So they are aware that, you know, if this conservative knows these plays, they know what to do or what not to do. You know, they know what to do. Hey, just burn the house down. They're not going to do any extra investigation. I'm the conservative. They're going to listen to what I'm saying. And we can get. This is another way we can get the money. And that's exactly what they did as well.
So what happened with the property?
The property is boarded up as now, right now, the property is brought it up.
But, you know, they're acting as if we're in control over it.
We make the decisions on the property.
When they haven't been doing anything for my father,
my father's been in New York for over 15 months.
They haven't gave him a dime, nothing, where I had to report it to Social Security and pension.
Like, look, this is what's going on.
They're not making sure he has any of the things that he needs.
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And you tried to hire an attorney to well I looked at a couple attorneys but like I got in a situation with an attorney so I'm really kind of you know really combing through anyone that can really help us and help us legitimately because I had an attorney and she she didn't do anything to support and help us in a situation even order preference that was against the law and they they were able to do it you know so um a lot of these lawyers
the conservatives are lawyer.
They're doing things under the color of law.
Right.
They're working with each other.
They're working with each other.
So it's really, really hard to figure out
who's really here to help and who's not.
You know, they're doing a lot of backdoor deals.
And so that's what led us to,
that's what led me to really working
against the deep-depth situation
because here it is,
these people broke into my house twice
and claiming that they're the new,
owners, and they was trying to do a self-eviction to get me out the property.
I was going to say, you still have to evict someone.
I was thinking breaking your house.
Like, you still have to evict something.
You still have to go through an eviction process.
I'm living in the house.
Right.
You do have to go through the eviction process, but what they were trying to do was gain
access to it immediately.
Because what I really believe is that they really didn't sell the property.
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They did was they administratively done it,
where they made it look like it was an actual sale,
meaning it's recorded on a property.
And then what they were going to do was gain access to the property,
start working on a property, call one of their buddies in,
and say, look, I got this property for 4.2 or 3.4.4.
It has 2 million in equity,
and then get it from the back end and pay everybody off.
That's what I really believe, you know, that's what I think they're done.
But, you know, I'm not 100% sure.
But that's what I believe that that's how they, that's what they do.
Because that's why they want to gain access to the property.
They gain access to the property.
They can start doing the construction work, start, you know, fixing it up, doing whatever it is to get, you know.
But they have to get you out.
They have to get me out.
But they could, you know, they can work around me.
You know, they have certain access to it.
They can work on certain floors, you know.
They can bring their people.
people in and say, hey, look, look at this property, you know, you know, this is, it has two million
in equity. It has three million in equity. So they don't care. They'll walk, they'll, you know,
they didn't stop their process. And in the process, when I went to court in all these processes,
they know that, the courts know the judge, because I'm going in front of the judge, the judge
know that that's not a legitimate sale. You cannot, if a person has a conservative, you cannot do a
backdoors deal. You have to go through the courts. There has to be a petition in order to grant
the sale where the property is location. And it never, it never happened. So what is it when you go
in front of the judge and you've explained this to them, what are they saying? Oh, they just act like,
you know, they let this case, they let the attorney read what the petition said in the state of Georgia.
and the judge was like, well, there's the information.
That says the state of Georgia, it doesn't render in New York.
It's not the proper jurisdiction.
It has to be where the property is located.
But because it had Georgia and because it came from a court,
and she feels like I'm probably not knowledgeable enough to know it,
it's like, well, we're just going to let it fly.
And it's like, no, this is illegal.
So what
So at this point
I mean you're still working with this
You're still working on this
Yes I end up forming a coalition
Yes I'm still constantly working on it
Because there's so many people like me
That have the same stories
You know we compound information
Where it's the same judges
It's the same lawyers
It's every
It's the same people
That's doing the same thing
So now we realize it's a problem
The referees deeds
they're saying that they're certified and it's not we see in the same exact pattern but it's
continuously happening well i think also a lot of these these judges see the same lawyers over and
over again so if you've been seeing this lawyer for 10 years and you've never really had any
problems with him so if he comes in front of you one day it's it's just like the normal he knows
what he's doing he's doing this this is what he does not a problem he's always been legit
and the lawyer may or may not even
I'm just saying
not, I don't know about your case
this case in general but I know that
there was an article that I had read about
a lawyer, it wasn't even a lawyer
there was a guy in New York
who was finding elderly people
that had homes that had a ton of equity
in them and maybe
they were occupied or they were
leasing their houses
were vacant or
being rented
or maybe they were even occupied
because they talk in the article, they talked about a woman who lost her house.
He was all in our, these, these are people in their 80s.
Right.
And he would go, and some of these people, most of these houses had been paid off.
They don't have a mortgage.
Right, like us.
We had no mortgage, no nothing, paid off.
What this guy would do is go, and he would place a mortgage on the property.
Yep.
And then after three or four months, he would go to a lawyer and say, hey, I need to foreclose on this property.
That's right.
I lent this person, yep, $800,000.
And they would say, well, do you have the documents?
And he would show them a closing statement,
sign documents from the owner, everything.
And then he would, which that signed document,
I could get your signature off of any number of documents that are in public records.
Right.
He'd sign it.
He'd get it a notary, would notarize it, right?
Even though it's probably a fate notary stamp, or it's just somebody that's in on it.
Right.
So then he gives us to a legitimate lawyer.
That lawyer then starts the process.
He has a process server go, knock on the door, file it.
So you've got an 85-year-old woman or an 80-year-old man.
Somebody says, hey, you've been served.
They get it.
They saw, oh, yeah, okay.
And they look at it.
A lot of times they don't have anybody that can help them understand what's going on.
And one thing, they say they're foreclosing on the property because of my mortgage.
I don't have a mortgage.
Right.
This is a mistake.
It can't be me.
So they ignore it.
Or maybe the process server says he served them and didn't.
Right.
they get a letter in the mail. You need to show up for court. They don't show up for court.
Or if they do show up, you've got a lawyer who knows exactly what to say. And you're sitting
there that you've got this 80-year-old man going, I didn't borrow any money. And the lawyer
for the mortgage company or the, who, you know, the guy who's foreclosing, he says, Your Honor,
Mr. So-and-so, you know, Mr. Johnson borrowed $800,000. He's never made one payment. We have,
Here's the closing statement.
Here's proof of the wire.
And keep mind, the lawyer thinks all this is legit.
Yep.
Because he was given the documents by the fraudster.
That's right.
So he's now leveraging his good name with this judge saying all these documents are legit.
Yeah.
They wired the money.
They have a closing.
They gave it so on.
And all he can say is in his little old man, frail voice, you know, and I didn't, I don't know what he's talking about.
and it's like, come on, your honor, he owns a $4 million piece of property.
He did that.
He did a dollar.
I don't know what he did with the money, but he's never made a payment.
And so they go, okay, we're going to kid.
And next thing you know, they own the house.
Yes, right.
And they're throwing the guy that owns out.
It's every day.
It's happening every day in our community.
Keep mind, even if he knows, even if this, this, you know, older person knows, or I'm sorry,
or has a son or daughter that can help, that son or daughter has to scrape together.
30 or 40 grand for an attorney and it's like I work at Walmart I don't have 40 grand for
my own family in my own house right own responsibility and that's how they that's how they're getting
us because they know the average person at age their family is you know their family's tied up
helping they can't help them right and then they end up homeless it's when I say it's happening
in rapid rates rapid rates and and these speculators they can they form these LLCs no
know exactly who they are and they go walk it right on through all the way up into housing court
like literally i'm in like in housing court like with paperwork's in housing court like waiting to go
to housing court and and i didn't even appeal any of my cases because you know i the the attorney
general is aware of it they are the DA the attorney general everyone is aware of what's going on
with the property are they doing anything about it absolutely not
They're not doing anything about it, but they're all aware of it.
So are people contacting you now saying, hey, this is happening to me and they're asking
for your help?
Well, there's some people that has been contacted me.
And then some of us, we kind of all just formed together.
It's like initially they'll come and say this happened to me.
A lot of people, you know, it's, I don't know people that 20 years have been dealing with
this.
But people kind of will call me and then we'll meet at different rallies, different events
that the city has put together because all the all of them have these deep theft prevention
classes and we're like how do you have all these deep theft prevention and you're not doing
anything to help us there's the funding that they said is available there is no funding there is no
money they'll say go to these nonprofit organizations the nonprofit organizations is complaining
because they're not getting paid so it's almost like a you know it's like a smoking mirror that
they're giving the people and so now we're at the
point where we're asking for a launch in an investigation and really see what is really going on
why we're not getting the help that we need. Even the attorneys, we compile evidence on attorneys
and we have a group of attorneys not to use. We may have like one attorney and it's skeptical
out of about 50 attorneys not to use. So it's almost where we're like maybe using paralegals to kind
you know type of our paperwork and get it presented into the court just to stop a lot of the bleed
but no one is no one is listening at at all no one is listening and they are taking our properties
like rapidly rapidly is it is there a specific person I mean is there an organization or
anybody that you've targeted that you can tell that this is a pattern um a lot of the
well, they're businesses, so it's a lot of, you know, LLCs, a lot of the orthodox Jews.
I know a lot of people say when we say that they were like, oh, you're anti-Semitic,
but they were like, these are the people that's doing it.
And in our group, that's all that's been doing it to us.
And so when we say it, you know, the first thing they say, oh, you guys are anti-Semitic,
but this is what's happening in our community and you're not addressing it.
If it's a black on black crime, it's listed as a black on black crime.
We're not like, oh, you're targeting us and saying, you know, calling, you know, all black people
criminals, no, but these are the people that's doing this to us and they don't want to address it.
They don't want to talk about it because then they're saying we're anti-Semitic.
But these are the ones that, you know, this is who's been doing this to us, literally coming in and locking us out of our properties.
A lot of people are getting locked up behind it because when they go to the property,
They're saying, hey, they're squatters.
They don't own it.
There's women that is in our coalition that own the property.
They're in their property.
They come and they present and they say they're squatters.
And they're locking them up for trespassing.
They're locked up for like two to three days.
They go inside and remove everything out of their property.
So now they can't go back to the property because they're considered squatters.
And so now they have to fight the criminal case.
They have a, what do they call it, a no trespassing or a warrant?
What do they put on?
Yeah, a trespass.
Yeah, trespass.
So now they can't go to the property.
If they're there, they'll just arrest them.
They'll arrest them.
So they can't go there.
And then these speculators are there.
And they start the construction on their property.
So they're out there.
And then now they have to fight their cases for the criminal aspect of it as well.
On top of fight their cases to try to get their property.
that so it's like you know it's where are these corporations that the the LLCs where are they all
are they all filed in the same same state or they filed in new york or they filed in another state
um well i've seen or i see new york that's what most of them i think there it's new york
it's a LLC in new york i don't think it's i mean it could be in other states so if you had a
a corporation right like i i changed the corporate name of my company several times right
so that they didn't connect it with me.
So if I were doing this, then, which I'm not by the way.
But if I were doing this, then I would start a corporation in a state where it was difficult to find out who owned that corporation.
Because if you go to Delaware or Nevada or then they can look and say, yeah, this was opened.
and there's a lawyer that is in charge with receiving the paperwork and everything.
We know who this lawyer is, but the lawyer, if they said, hey, if you called up and said, hey,
who owns this corporation?
You'd be like, no, it's a lawyer, client privilege or attorney client privilege.
I can't tell you that.
And unless they got a subpoena, I don't think that they would ever give it up.
So that way you could, that person could incorporate multiple lenders.
is you can incorporate a lender.
I can say I'm a lender.
I could open up a lending institution.
I don't have to have any licensing.
As long as I'm lending my own money,
and let's face it,
these people aren't lending any money at all anyway.
No.
Or just in general, if it's a trust or whatever,
they don't need to be licensed.
So they could be,
it could be the same person behind all these.
If it's from New York, though,
and you looked up those LLCs in New York,
I'm pretty sure New York probably you can tell
who opened that company.
Yes, yes.
The registration agency.
Right.
Yes.
Well, the registered agent could be the same attorney, because it just could be an attorney, right?
That's true.
So I'm wondering, like, if you can figure out, is it like the same address is used over and over again?
Is it the same?
You know what I'm saying?
So you can connect it.
Well, you're right.
And in my case, initially when, like I said, we went litigation for four years, there was a contract signed.
There's a relative claim that he had ownership of the property.
You can't sell a half of a house.
You can't sell your portion of a property, but that's what he did with these guys called
the Embolo Brothers.
Now, you Google them, they're all over, you know, all over New York about stealing portions
of properties of families, right?
And so that's who was on our property initially was the Embolo Brothers.
So we, you know, that was who had the contract.
And then when they did the actual sale in the beginning of 2023, it was a 227 group.
that claim to be the owners.
But when we looked at the address,
the addresses were the same.
So as you were saying, like, do they change?
Well, from my understanding and what we found out,
there's still two different organizations.
But the speculators that they do it is all the same.
They use the same address.
It's probably like a group of friends.
You know what I mean?
It's a group of guys.
If it's five guys together and we're doing this,
Hey, this time, Colby, we're going to record the ABC lending or ABC trust in your name.
Okay.
And then when he's filling out the paperwork, he's like, I don't want this coming to my house.
I'll have it come here and come to the same office.
We're in the same office.
Six months later, we're doing another one.
Hey, we're going to do the XYZ corporation, but I'll do it in my name.
And I don't want that corporate paperwork coming to my house.
So I'm going to have it come here.
So it ends up being, you're like, that's the same office, though.
It's just a bunch of guys in the same office.
They're just...
Just circling it around.
And that's exactly what happened.
That's what I told the district attorney.
Right.
I showed them.
I said, look, the addresses are the same.
There's some similarities.
I mean, they're LLCs, but the address is the same.
And that's what I...
Those are the things that I did.
Because that's what happens.
You start compiling information and evidence,
and you try to connect the dots.
Or you have to really connect the dots.
that that's on your own to see the similarities.
And that's what we were presented to the DA's office.
We were sent it to, you know, the Attorney General's office.
We didn't say, hey, we're doing it an investigation.
There was a new law that was in place July 19, 23, that protects you.
If there's any discrepancies with the property, you know, nothing can be done until it's
solved.
So I fell in that bracket, I fell in that bracket, you know, that time frame.
I got a letter in the mail saying, hey, everything was dismissed in your case.
And I'm like in the courts because I brought it, you know, up in court.
I let them know, hey, the DA's looking at it.
The attorney general is looking at it.
There's fraud in this case.
You know, okay.
It came right back.
It came right back as if.
And I don't really think that the judge are the ones that are the ones that sign it off on it.
Well, in Brooklyn, there's administrative.
and I think it's the ministrative
that signs off on these properties
I don't think it's the judge
I don't think it's the judge that's actually making the decisions
I think it's like a administrative
person behind the judge that makes these decisions
I don't even think it's the attorney
clerk and the judge is signing
because the judge is going to have to sign the final order
but I think the person that makes the decision
I think it's supposed to be the judge
but I don't think so I don't believe that it's a judge
that's making these decisions.
I know some judges that made pretty bad decisions.
That too.
Right.
Don't put it past them.
I don't want to rule that out.
No, not totally rule it.
You're absolutely right.
Not totally rule it out.
But the reason why I kind of say that,
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And it could be a judge.
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today's episode. And she basically, you can't find, you can't, my case, you can't look up my case
like online. You have to go to the, you have to go to the, to the courthouse and get the information
because it wasn't an e-filing, right? And she came to me and she was like, you know,
I can help you get some money out of this deal. And I'm like, what deal? Like,
What deal are you talking about, your property?
She's like, I can help you get about 70, 80,000 dollars.
I was like, listen, this is our family home.
We over 60 years.
What are you talking about?
Like, there's no other option.
Like, we're staying in our property.
She was like, listen, you're not going to get this property.
She was like, this is a lot bigger than you think it is.
And I was like, what are you talking about?
This lady came from nowhere.
She was just showing me my documents.
I was like, how did this lady get this information?
So one day I so happened to be out and about.
And I was with my dad
And she was like, Kamala
And I was like, yeah, she was like, I was the one
That was inboxing you in TikTok
And I was like, really?
She was like, yeah, you remember I was telling you
About the property and I was telling you that, you know
And she just happened to bump into you
And she just so happened to bump into me
Which I thought was shit
That's not normal
Which is not normal
And I said, really, she had
She pulled it up on her phone
All the documents of what I submitted
My order to the court
And she was like, literally told me around this September, January of February, they're going to rule on your case.
You're not going to win your case.
I'm letting you know now.
And I looked at her like, you're crazy.
Like, who are you lady?
She's like, I just want you know I was a real person.
And I'm here to tell you.
And exactly what she stated is exactly what happened.
You think that it's possible that these guys sent her there to say, look, you know, we'll give you 80 grand.
Go away.
Like, sign some paperwork.
work and go away.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're not going to end up with.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Definitely somebody is definitely, like I said, when they broke into my house,
they were sitting in the front of the doors waiting to see when we left out the house.
They sit there and monitor you and watch you and see who's coming in and out the house.
And when it's free, you know, they ran into the property.
So I'm quite sure the same thing with, you know, they find people to, you know,
to contact us and say, hey, you're not going to get your property back.
you know, this is what you need to do.
So in that essence, then they all are connected.
And that's what I'm basically saying.
They're all connected for someone to come out of nowhere and be like, hey,
which we know it's not out of nowhere, and say, hey, I'm so-and-so,
and this is not going to work in your favor.
How are you so sure in that gamble?
Unless you know something in the inside that I don't know.
And then when I started researching the courts, I realized that it's, it, there is, there's maybe a chief, you know, judge, but it's just administrative that runs the courts.
It's just a regular administrative people that run their courts.
So if the administrative people know, hey, these are these properties here, we'll make sure it doesn't rule in their favor.
And as administrator, and I know people that can get the property.
Well, I was thinking to myself, well, if these guys do get control the property, they get ownership of it and they sell it, if they were to sell the property, like I'm not really understanding how, like whatever money they've put up to get themselves into a position to be on title, like let's say they put up a million dollars and they sell the property for anything over that, then that money should go to the original owners.
The problem is I was thinking if I was them and I had a million dollars on the property and I sold it, I'd make sure I didn't sell it for more than what I was owed.
And if I did, you know, if you sold it for, you know, I just sell it to somebody who I know, of course.
So I'd sell it to some guy, you owe me a million.
I'd sell it for, you know, one point, whatever, and change and you'd end up getting $30,000.
And all that paperwork would look legit.
And then, of course, that person ends up who's probably sitting in the desk over there.
You know what I'm saying?
That person puts it on the, puts it up for sale.
And he sells it for $3.5 million.
And then we all split that money.
Right.
But I was thinking, have you thought about going to a, going to like a reporter or anybody and kind of explain that?
Yes.
I have several articles that, you know, I did, you know, news press.
I did rallies in front of my house that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,
wrote the whole details of our local papers that's been around for years wrote in details
articles about what has transpired with the properties but it's all falling on deaf airs
what about like a rep in there a rep who's the rep for uh for your district district all of them
all of them aware of it they were in my they were in front of my door rallying and you know
and talking about the subject and let's go back to let's go back to let's
legislated and put different laws in place, but what's the sense of putting laws if they're not
being enforced?
They're not being enforced at all.
There's all laws in place.
They know it.
It's not being, we are totally being violated.
With this deed death, it's like no one's listening to us.
We'll call in, you know, Hakeem Jeffries and Letitia James had a, you know, a whole town meeting.
We're calling in like, hey, we're having deed death.
Oh, yeah, the legislator is, the laws in place.
but no one is doing nothing and and people you know like you say you like you asked to me well did
you do all these things we've done all these things and that's why you know i really wanted an
investigation to really see really what's going on behind behind this because it's been going on for
years i wonder years it's been going on for years and and but your the stuff that you know of
is just happening in your state is that correct it well it
It's the same thing.
It's just a group of...
Do you know, can you, are there...
Do you have other people that are involved that are in other states that this is happening
to?
Everyone as far as, well, as far as the de-theft, it's in our state directly.
But I, but like, it's like with like the conservatorship and a guardianship situation.
I know people in other states, the same thing that happened with the guardian and the
conservatorship.
So...
Actually, you're...
Because I have two different.
cases kind of going. I got the guardianship and the
conservators. And then I also
have like the de-theft aspect of it.
But if you look at the guardianship and the conservatorship
that the group that I formed
in that aspect, the same thing
is happening. But that was in Georgia.
So you have one in Georgia.
So you do have a connection between two different states.
Two different states. I'm trying to think of how
do you get it out of these idiots in the
state? How do you get out of their
hands? Because they're clearly incompetent, right?
They're ineffective. They can't seem to do anything.
But if you were able to go to the FBI,
That's the only way you could do it.
Right, because the FBI.
That's how you have to do it.
And that's where I'm at now.
So you have to have two different states.
Yeah, I have to go to the fed.
Literally, that's why I am with going to the feds and having the feds to cross jurisdictional lines
in order to show that this is what's going on.
But because it's the same thing.
When I speak with my coalition in Georgia, they liquidating, listen, the same conservator,
she had one young man.
His parents, you know, his mother, it was not his parents.
His mother died without a will.
They went to become the administrator over his estate, over his mother's estate.
He's not mandatory for you to post a bond.
They didn't post the bond.
The same concern that I had, she came in, became the administrator over the estate without their due process, without them even knowing,
and then started eviction to evict him out of his mother's property.
in the in the in the in the in the paperwork she scratched out the deputy the deputy the deputy the deputy clerk of the
the county and used her notary so you can't as illegal you can't take the court's deputy you know the
court's paperwork and cross out and put your notary and then filed it in court and started the
process to evict him and so we so he submitted all the documents and was in front of
front of the judge saying, hey, this is what this attorney, this attorney, because for him
and she's just an attorney, this is what this attorney illegally did. And then the judge is like,
okay, it may be illegal, but it's a criminal case. You're in a wrong jurisdiction, which he was
in the right jurisdiction. But they told me he was in a wrong jurisdiction. You have to take this to
criminal. So now he has to do a criminal case in it. But, you know. But they're doing, they're doing
whatever they want it's the wild wild west and the judge the judges the judges really he's
kind of protecting them right you know what I mean because well the judges are all attorneys
they're all attorney too so they're good right they're officers of the court so they're protecting
them they're like okay well if you say you could prove this now you got to go to criminal court
and that's the jurisdiction my my brother-in-law was an attorney and he was saying that there were you
these guys would go to like, whatever, different, you know, organizations that are all members of
attorneys. And he's like, there's this one group of attorneys that he's like, literally like they're
ostracized. Like nobody talks to them. They're off by their own. And he said, because they sue other
attorneys. And he's like, he's like, he's like, and they're extremely busy. He is because you can't
find an attorney. You can't sue another attorney. Like they just don't want to do it. They want
anything to do with it. Wow. You're absolutely right. And I don't.
I don't necessarily know for sure if that's because they're kind of looking out for each other, which it probably is.
We are.
But I think that's probably part of it.
I also think it's because suing another attorney, that attorney can fight you and drag it out.
It's like it's going to be a ton of paperwork because he's also an attorney.
He knows what you do.
Right.
He'll drag it out.
He's going to fight tooth and nail because I'm trying to sue him.
What I was thinking was so there is a private.
investigator in in florida the problem is he's in florida right in florida his name is tom simon
and he he owns tom simon uh investigative investigative i don't know what what is it
investigations i think it's tom tom simon investigates investigates okay that's his instagram name
oh is it he's a private investigator a retired FBI agency so he did 26 i think 20s book club
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And open this thing
And what he does is when people aren't
getting anywhere what he'll does is he'll look at a case people go to him and he looks at the case
and i mean obviously he charges um he looks at the case and then i mean he'll he'll talk to you on
the phone for nothing you know he'll talk to you and say what's going on you know let me see if you
because if he talks you on the phone he after you tell the whole story he'll be like okay i'm
sorry that's just not federal like there's nothing because here's what he didn't do this all the time
obviously he does regular investigations yes but one of the things he'll do is if he thinks
it could, something could be brought to the FBI, he'll look at the whole case, he'll put the
case together so that these guys don't have to do all that work. So that way he then goes to them
and says, here's what's happening. Right. Here's, you know, and he can, where he can go,
okay, it's like the, they call them FBI 302s where it's, it's like a case summary page by page.
So you can look at it chronologically. On this day, this happened. Boom. This day, this. And he tells you
what laws are being broken and what they did.
And who's invested, who was involved, the whole thing.
It's what they want to know.
Yep.
And that way it's like they can look at like almost like looking at a picture book.
Exactly.
Okay.
I can see, you know, Johnny ran up the hill.
Yeah.
Jill was at the top of the hill.
Johnny ran down the hill.
That's how you have to present it.
Jill's dead.
You know what I'm saying?
Like he can, and he'll lay it out and then he'll take it and go into the local
he'll schedule an appointment, go into the FBI office and say, look, 26 years, bro.
That's what's needed.
And lay it all out for them so that they're like, okay, you're right.
I think this is a case.
That's right.
As opposed to you calling rambling on for 20 minutes.
Right, right, right, with a grieving, saying they're like, what are you talking about, man?
Because you sound like sour grapes.
Right.
Oh, she's just upset because something didn't go right.
They don't quite know what's doing it right.
Listen, and even with case law, because I do have a little understanding, even with case law, they'll say that to me as well.
When I presented, listen, I went to the DA and I had a, on Valentine's Day, I had a meeting with, you know, one of the representatives.
for the AG's office and she said
well you're just upset with the outcome
I'm like no I'm not upset with the outcome
this is the law you are an attorney
you know about jurisdiction
they cannot sell a property from Georgia
in New York that you know
if you look at the title of the
property there's about five
different notaries from all over
it's like a it's like a judge
foreclosing in New York
foreclosing on a property
in Florida
exactly you're a very
your jurisdiction stops at that line exactly at that line you don't have the right anything if you say
hey i'm foreclosing on this property in florida even if you said look
the lender is in is in new york and the lender lent money to this in florida and these people
didn't pay and they start that then that lender needs to go to florida and start the process of
foreclosing in a floor in that county in the county and start the process and then a
judge in that county in Florida needs to sign off on every step of the way.
And then he determines, yes, we're going to foreclose.
You can't do that from New York.
Listen.
And they know that.
Right.
And they know that.
But they like, it's almost like, well, do you know it?
And it's like, it's a constant going back and forth.
It's clear as, it's clear as day.
It's clear.
Once all this smoke goes, it's clear as day.
And guess what?
I have not hired back from the attorney general with giving them the,
the facts and the information that you know, nothing.
What are you going to tell me?
I'm busy.
I've been working.
I didn't get a chance.
We're working on this.
We're working on it.
No.
They don't do anything.
They don't do anything.
So that's why I said an investigation will show all of that.
So then you can't give the smoking mirrors anymore.
That's the facts.
Can you imagine how terrified these guys would be if the FBI showed up and knocked down the door and said,
hey, that's what's needed.
You need to talk to Mr. So-and-so.
He apparently opened up these three corporations.
Yes.
There's a group of you guys working in Tangent to foreclose on properties that you don't actually own or that you're trying to buy an interest in and then foreclosing on and then.
Yeah, I have a few questions just to clarify.
I know you covered it, but I just kind of want to clarify because if I'm a little confused, maybe some audience to confuse.
Okay.
Is the Georgia property and the New York property, are those linked at all?
Or those kind of two separate things?
The only way they link is by the ownership.
The ownership of the property is the linkage, but they're in two different states.
So New York, my dad has a property in New York, and my dad had a property in Georgia as well.
So that's two different properties.
Okay.
But that's not a link.
You're just saying it happens to be my father, happens to own two properties.
That's it.
That's irrelevant.
That's yes.
So the kind of the storyline with the wife and the,
The deed theft in New York are two separate type of things.
Well, I mean, did it, did, do you think she helped lead to this?
No, she didn't help lead to it.
It's two, it's two separate cases.
It's just that the series of events that led to it.
Okay.
It's definitely two separate cases.
So, so with the deed theft in New York, so from my understanding, it's, it's your family
home that they, you've lived in for hundreds of years, right?
Yes.
And then at some point, the ownership got to.
burst to many, many family members?
They allegedly, yeah, allegedly these family members said that they were heirs to the
properties.
And then that's when the-
They're not on title.
Right.
Yeah.
But they're just saying that the property's been in their family for it.
So they're saying, so they're saying.
So they're saying, so they're just-packed.
Yeah.
And so then the Amalo brothers, is that their name?
Embalo, yes.
And Balo brothers approach these people who's saying, this is our property, but they're not on the
paperwork.
And they give them-
whatever, 500,000, a million for their portion, their portion of the property.
And then they just take control of the whole entire property.
And then what they did.
They try to evict, they go in and evict everybody.
Well, what happened was the Imbalo brothers had the contract with that relative.
And then with he, I guess the Embala brothers, they didn't want to deal with it.
So they said, they gave it to their buddies.
They gave it to one of their friends, which would be the 227 group.
and let them deal with it
because they approached me on it
I didn't know who they were at the time
but they approached me on it on the property
and basically was like
oh you know we're working with the state of Georgia
to get the property and I'm like
what are you talking about and at that point
I said well I'm planning on taking
everyone in Georgia to federal court
and once he knew I mentioned
federal court he backed
off of it you know later on
he's supposed to have backed off the deal
and gave it to his friend
so that's what they did
they were like all these people are working
together even the courts in Georgia
everyone is working together
because he stated to me
in a lot of my videos
he stated that I was working with
I'm working with Georgia to sell off the property
so even though
who's on the title I guess
like who's does it
yeah I'm so who is on the title
is my dad
or I'm in Charrington
then how do they think
that they have a
that they have the
legal ability to foreclose if they're not on the title.
Did they just file a lien on the property or something?
No, not a lien.
What do you mean by who, who had this, think that they had its, um, like, how are
they going through the process of seizing the property?
So, because he has a conservator.
So the conservator is acting on for my father.
Okay.
So she is like.
Okay.
So the conservator started the foreclosure process.
It was just, not foreclosure.
Sorry, just to sell the property.
Well, no, before the, before the conservative and guardianship, the initial relatives started a proceeding saying, hey, we have part owner of the property and we want to sell the property.
What paperwork do they have?
There was nothing presented.
Only thing they did was have an attorney, draw up the paperwork, and said that they have legal rights to the property.
But there's not, they're not on title.
Not on title anything.
There's no lien on the property in their name?
No nothing, no ownership, nothing.
They just presented it in court.
So we're waiting and thinking we're going to go to court to show that this is not.
They don't have ownership on the property.
During that time, two of the plaintiffs died.
It was four of them totally.
Two of them died.
When they died, the judge told them you had to have somebody over the state to represent them.
So we're like waiting for this process.
During that process, we were in Georgia fighting the conservative and a guardianship
for my dad, right?
And so then they took over.
So once they took over, we thought that they will continue fighting this legal out,
the legalality that was happening in the state of New York.
They never did.
Nobody said no paperwork was submitted in court.
Nobody showed up.
Nothing was done.
So then it became alarming because it's like, well, you knew that if you're his
conservator and you're representing Mr. Charington, then you would represent him in
court, nothing was done. And then at that time, we saw that the imbalos came in while we're still
in court and did a contract with this relative that claimed to be the owner of the property.
So then I'm calling saying, wait a minute, we're in a court case and they're selling portions
of the property while we're in the court case. The sheriff's department was like, oh,
you're still in a property. I mean, you're in court. When you go to court, you just let the courts know
what's going on so we're like oh my goodness all right so then we're waiting to go to court
never go to court or never nothing all of a sudden they never notify you to go to court
we never went because nobody showed up nobody submitted documents nothing ever happened and then
as we're waiting like okay we know the dates no one appears in court January i think it was like
January 13th, 2023, these alleged people came into the house and said they were the owners.
So what happened during the court proceedings? The judge, I thought you said the judge had
signed off saying these people are in the house. That was afterwards. Okay, so when we, the first,
the first initial lawsuit that they started, we were waiting, you know, to submit documents to show
that these people that claim that these relatives that said that their owners are not owners.
That first case never went in front of a judge at all.
These people came in and said that we are the new owners of this property right now.
Does it say that in?
No, there was no proof.
Listen, I submitted.
There was no administrator over the state.
I showed them everything.
What does the title say?
Does the title say that they own the house?
No.
It doesn't show anything.
It shows up.
Actually, what happened was this relative that claim that he's an owner.
His father came and tried to do a quick claim deed on the property.
Okay.
And that quick claim deed he did was actually legally, it was done wrong.
But they present and say, hey, I am the actual owner.
So we were waiting to show all these discrepancies in court.
But they never went, it was never presented in front of a judge.
We never went in the front of a judge to say, hey, they're not the owners.
This is the owners.
This is the process.
It never happened.
happened was they dismissed the case, the plaintiff and the defendant, this relative that said
that he's the owner, my father's conservative, they dismissed the case. These new speculators came
in and said that, hey, now, we're the owners of the property. Literally came, put a note on the
door, came in, ransacked the house, and said, we're the new owners. And then at that point,
I went to court, did a TRO ask the judge, hey, stop this. I don't know what this is. They're just
happened. We were in court for four years. We was waiting to go in front of you. No one ever
appeared. Now these people are saying they're the owners. How is this possible? These people
do not have legal rights. Went in front of the judge. Once again, they present. They come in front
of the judge. The judge says, hey, is these documents? They are the actual owner. They bought the
property for $1.4 million. I'm like, no, they did not. We don't know these people. These people
look, these people are, I mean, they're our relatives, but they don't have legal standing.
They're not on title.
They can't sign for the title.
Your father is.
My father is.
So where was this closing?
Exactly.
I have no idea.
All you, all I don't know where the closing was.
I don't, we don't know anything.
Is there a new deed in public records?
Right.
There's a new deed in public records.
And when you look at the new deeds, it's like, like maybe 10 people on the deed.
And it looks like a whole bunch of ears that signed off and dip.
different states. So you have a notary in Jersey, you have a notary in Maryland, you have a
notary in Virginia, you have a notary in Georgia, all on the title. Which you can't do that as well.
Well, unless they were, unless they were all on the original title, like if your father had
quit claim deeded it to six people, and then those six people sold the property and they
notarized their name, but that's not what happened, you're saying. No, that's not what happened. So it went
from your father to they just filed a new deed with their names.
They filed a new deed.
Right.
It went from my father to this relative that claimed that he was, you know,
his father was the owner.
And he's the heir.
It was his father.
So it went from his name in my father's and said that, hey, these are all the heirs for
this person that is deceased.
These are all his heir.
Then then my father's conservative side, my father's portion.
And so these new people have moved in.
Are you guys?
No, no, we're still in the property, yeah, we're still actually in the property.
I think the problem is, sorry, the problem is the conservative's, conservator signed for your father, but he signed it, he's in Georgia.
Right.
And he signed a deed for a property in New York, which clearly is jurisdiction and it's clearly illegal.
But when you mention it, because it's an attorney, it's almost like a blind eye.
You're saying he's the conservator.
Explain what that.
What's a conservatory?
Like he's representing him legally.
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You're not able to take care of your own.
So he's making the decisions for me.
So the judge says, I'm going to,
I'm going to put Matt Cox and he's a conservative or let's say I'm going to put
Jack in charge charge he's a lawyer and he does this for a living in Georgia well his
only jurisdiction is in Georgia for you so he can only deal with the stuff that's in
Georgia and if in the what she's saying is that during the course of this whole
thing some relatives said hey we own a portion of this property
in New York
for Colby
and they went to the conservator
in Georgia
and said
we want to sell this property
at that point he should have said
yeah I can't sign off on that property
like it's not in my jurisdiction
it's not in Florida or I'm sorry it's not in Georgia
it's not in Georgia so I can't do anything about that
have I been saying Georgia the whole time
you've been going back forth but I get it
but this
conservator, he was
dealing with the property
in Georgia, right?
Just in Georgia.
And then these people from
New York reached out to him
or whatever, wherever the deal was.
And he just, what, signed off.
And then he signed off to sell the property
in New York.
And does he, what does he say?
The conservative, well, the conservative
is basically monitoring two properties
as he owns two properties.
The one would be in New York
and one would be in Georgia.
No, what's he saying?
Why did he sign off on it?
You wouldn't know, oh, it's confidential.
I don't have to speak to you about anything.
I work for my client.
I don't have to tell you anything.
That they don't tell, that's their, that's their approach to get away with what they're doing.
Yeah.
It's the confidentiality aspect of it.
And with the family, this family member who sold the house in New York.
Gone.
Nobody knows where he's at.
Nobody.
Even with the DA, the DA tried to try to reach out to all the people that names that's on there.
And she told me she could not get in touch with them.
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I literally don't know.
Like the four relatives that initially started the case, I know them.
but all these different heirs and family members that are the children of them we don't know them
and when she reached out the DA said I try to contact these people I couldn't get in touch with
them I was like well you don't think that's alarming that you can't get in touch with all these
people that's named that's on the actual type on the title of the property nobody and then when
I looked at I went back and looked at the conservator the conservator's information it says
Georgia. So no, but the property's in New York. How are you able to do? And they all know this.
And when they came to try to get you guys out of the house, you guys just like, we're not leaving.
No, because you know, you know your rights, you know. When you kind of have an idea of the law,
you know your rights, you like, it don't go like that. Yeah. But I mean, in this series of events,
so many things could have happened. You know what I mean? Like someone could have literally got hurt
Because they came in there and they're like, we're the actual owners.
Everyone is screaming, you know, carrying on.
And we're like, and I'm just pretty much calm.
Like, no, I don't know who these people are.
And when you looked it up, when they went to Asric and looked at the county records,
it showed them as the actual owners.
We had no idea.
Even though I did have alarm on it, but they did it like fairly fast.
Yeah.
So what's like what was that?
Since they came in, like what's the battle?
in like, like, what is...
Yeah, are they in the process of evicting you?
Yes, they don't stop.
Their process continues on.
They'll go, they'll have their attorneys in court,
they'll file for you to be evicted.
They don't stop anything
because they know that the courts are protecting them.
They know the courts are protecting them.
Because they have me in an eviction court now,
and when I went through the process and everything,
I had a judge, I had a part,
I had everything, and they adjourned it.
And when they adjourned it, it's a whole different courtroom and it's a whole different part.
You don't adjourn and switch everything around.
So it's somebody they know in a courtroom that will administrate them and help them along this process.
Well, what are they trying to do, get into a different, by doing that, what are they trying to do?
They'll get into a different judge.
They'll get into a different judge that will render them their relief.
So, yeah, so right now you're in the middle of an eviction court trying to fight it.
Yep.
Yeah.
And we're in the middle of an eviction court.
And I'm going through the process and watching it and seeing the changes of it right in front of me.
And these, you know, quote unquote investors or people who are taking these properties
are just looking at trying to find people who have, you know, quote unquote, partial ownership
or maybe like a relative have died and they're trying to come in and buy partial these properties
and then take over the whole thing.
Take over the whole thing.
Say, you know, hey, we're the new owners.
Listen, I have, listen, on my block, it's me and my neighbor.
My neighbor lives about six houses from me.
Her relative lives in Australia.
Do you know that they, these speculators said that they got, they gave, you know, the uncle, you know, a certain amount of money for his portion of the property from Australia.
She hasn't heard from her uncle in over 20 years.
Yeah, I was going to say the, remember the guy.
I had mentioned in New York that was placing liens on people's properties and foreclosing.
I was going to say the thing is is that they're so brazen about it.
Right.
Like, you know, one of the ways, for instance, let's say you go into a bank and try and pass
like fraudulent checks, like one of the ways they figure, like if they're questioning it,
then they'll say like, well, I'm not sure, let me look, let me go in the back.
Let me, we're thinking about calling the police.
if that person says oh never mind and leaves you see what I'm saying but if they don't
I mean if they say well oh yeah we don't have to do all that here give me my check back and
they walk out they know that helps them know okay that was definitely fraud but if they sit
there and say call the police right there's nothing wrong with this check I don't know what
you're thinking call do whatever you got to do then a lot of times they'll go okay well we're
going to go ahead and cash the check because if this person was doing something illegal they
wouldn't stay here. So being brazen sometimes works to your advantage. And that's what I think
part of it, the being brazen is that they've got an attorney that is in New York that's been there
forever that does this on a regular basis. And he continues to follow paperwork. And even though
you're screaming, hey, this isn't right, you weren't allowed to do this. We were never notified.
My father's not, you know, didn't sign off. This person doesn't have the right to sign off. And they're
like, okay, none of that matters. We're going to go forward. Yep. And they, you know, and they keep showing up.
then the court and everybody else kind of thinks it must be legit must be okay right she's just upset
about the decision that and that's how they look at you they're just upset about the decision
that was made they don't even look at the fraudulent activity that has occurred because they know that
jurisdiction there's no way a conservator could have signed off in a different jurisdiction they
know that well first of all they signed off for nothing right oh yeah they they sold off they said
1.4 million. So if you're talking about 1.4 million what about 10 people? How much did my father
receive when he's been doing maintenance and taking care of the property and doing everything
for this whole time? So what amount did he receive? And it's against the law, even as a
conservator, to sell a property for way under its as is. You can't sell it. You can't, what court
or what judge is going to render you the relief of selling a property as is? What's the property worth?
Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
property is my neighbor just sold his house in two weeks it's worth four point two million dollars
yeah i mean in two weeks my neighbor and his he put a lot of renovation in it but still my neighbor
the same as that design you know even if you knock off a million million does it do we know what
they you know portion that he claims he is you know entitled to like is it 50 25 or
my father allegedly in this lawsuit it was like 50 but my father is actually the whole owner of the property he's the actual oh they don't have they don't own anything because it the way the title was it was with survivorship so my father outlived his relatives so it's my father's he has he owns the whole property okay you know legally he owns the own property but these people are saying yeah and these guys aren't paying 1.4 million unless it's working other with other properties right exactly
Exactly. Exactly. And have you met or come across anybody that has gone through the whole entire process and been kicked out?
Oh yeah. Yeah. In our group, I have a lot of people that have lost their property. A lot of people are homeless, live with other relatives. Maybe a lot of people have three and four brownstones. So maybe they have, they're in one. But in their one, it's the same process that's going on. So they might have lost two and they may be in one still. These speculative.
ladies go in. A lot of them had tenants. We didn't have tenants. So that kind of what saved us,
that we didn't have tenants because the tenants are letting them in, letting them have access to the
property. A couple of them, that's what happened to them. They had tenants. And then they told the
tenants that they lost their property and foreclosure with the new owners and now pay me.
So now this person that owns this really the actual owner, their income is gone. Because now these
speculators are coming in and taking their money from them. So, and then how they're going to fight
in a legitimate court battle
if they don't have the income to fight it.
And so that's why I say
an investigation is really
what's needed to show.
How long ago was this thing in the neighborhood?
That was, everything was in
2023. It's very recent.
Not even a year.
It's like year to date.
Because they came into my property
the beginning of January.
And they came
in the beginning of January
and then I think my first court date
when I started was like March I did like a quick TRO it was like March and then the judge
dismiss it and then I went back again yeah so it was all 2023 everything happened in
2023 so um right 23 yeah 20 20 20 20 yeah it was 20 23 scrolling through the website uh so this was
actually the the article was posted in 2024 so last year in the summer yep with you guys
sitting outside the house so this is the house that you guys stay at yes that's the that's the that's
house with the news with 12 news yeah yes yep that was a rally that we put together yeah
that was and like the news came out and everything the news um the news wasn't the news wasn't
out that she just took the pictures from it yeah she wasn't on the scene but you see the senate
the our senator was there see that's our that's our cityman and see at the time we thought it
was the imbala brothers yeah but is it is it do you know or do you just don't know who it is no
it's another group it's called 227 but at the time we thought because if you look at the deed
at one time if their name was on our property so yeah so you think you think they sold it
they sold it they backed out they were like we're going to back out this deal and then we gave it to
our boys okay and that's what happened because I started posting that's my neighbor right there
but I started posting and attacking them Bala brothers and they caught me they were like listen
it wasn't us it wasn't us but they all do the same thing and if you look
look at them, they changed their whole
website. They're still doing it
though. Yeah. And I need to go after them too
because they had our property on the contract
for two years.
For like two years.
Yes.
So that was the first rally
and I had the senator,
the senator there.
What senator?
Bridgeport. Our senator
right now, he was at the rally.
So I had all I have I've had contact with all elected officials
Because I know you have mentioned that at one time
Like if I've got you know reached out to them
And I reached out to every everyone
And so that's what I said
Basically useless
Yes basically I mean you know
They just can I guess they can only do what I guess they said they can do
Which is stand in front of the house
And yell at
But it's out of there
Once again everything goes back to jurisdiction
out of their jurisdiction we just make the laws so then you go to them and say well this needs
to be rendered into the law and this needs to be rendered into the law but if they're not following
the law and the last meeting i had with them about three weeks ago it was like listen i you know
hey i thank you guys for what you're doing in arbany i'm not saying no to it but they're not
doing anything the laws that you have in place they're not they're not doing anything they're not
following it and that's why i say when you do an investigation and you can show this wasn't done
this wasn't done this wasn't done this wasn't done then we can address the problem you know until it is
an investigation of pull back really what is happening and really what happened they're going to
camouflage it and say oh we were short staff oh we were they're going to give you every smoke and mirror
there is but an investigation will tell you what happened it's like redlining you know once they
really looked at redlining it was called what it was called you know and that's what we need
We needed an internal investigation for all these different agencies to show really what's going on.
And then we can hold them accountable because there's the proof of the show what was done, what you did, what you didn't do.
But if their officers of the course, they're going to all work together.
It's almost like the police department.
You know what I mean?
You know, this person, you know, write this document.
This is what they said happened.
And until, and that's what holds.
You know, that's really what holds until an internal investigation that comes.
on, then you can see a lot of
discrepancies in what was
written and what was actual
factual. And that's
what we, that's what we kind of need.
That's what we need. That's the only way
I feel like it'll work is a
true investigation. So how are you
feeling personally for this property?
Like, do you feel like you're going
to win? Oh, yeah, I definitely
feel I'm going to win, even if it goes to like that
it may, you know, have to go to the public.
Telecourt, FBI, that's the only way.
It has to go to a higher court in order for it to win because the lower courts, they're like, they're working together.
For these people that get kicked out of their properties, what, why were they kicked out?
Like, what didn't they do to?
Well, one, they didn't know.
They didn't know the process, you know.
They didn't have a group of people maybe standing behind them, you know, speaking on it, telling a story.
I think that's, I mean, I think, you know, that's really.
what happened. Some of, you know, people have
documentations and, and show
what happened to them, but who did
they present it to, to show that
this is really what's happening?
And it was like a single
case of a person saying
versus now, it's a group of people
that say, this same thing has happened
to 20 of us, 30 of us, 50
of us, 70 of us.
On my, on my, on
all my social media, everyone
has always said, this happened to my
grandmother, this happened to my aunt, that kid me.
Everyone says the same story.
So I think now with us coming together and presenting it,
then we can investigate and show really even what their case is,
they show really what transpired and really what happened.
And, you know, I think that's what's really needed is to show.
Is there any way for someone to prevent this?
Like if they inherit, like they inherit a house with their family members?
This is a tough one.
I was going to say, this is a tough one because for part of the process, she knew what was happening.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's the problem is when the court systems don't follow the rules, then there's not much you can do.
You're saying, they're saying, no, no, no, but you don't have the right to do that.
And they're like, that's, it's fine.
And they record it and then everybody along the line upholds that, that ruling.
What do you say?
Right.
You just, you look like you're just, it's sour grapes.
Like, you just didn't get the result.
You want it.
So you're upset.
Not that I wanted, didn't get the result.
wanted it's that you don't have the legal right to do what you did and they go anyway and they
keep going and you're like what do you know not that you're that's exactly what's happening that's like
some sheriff from Georgia getting a complaint in Georgia driving down here and arresting me or a complaint
in Georgia's like what are you yeah who are you yeah you can't come in here and just arrest me
because somebody in Georgia said I did something like what are you talking to you pick me you have to
there's a process to go through and they're doing it and they're doing it and they're
And they're documenting it.
You know, they are literally, I mean, to see it in actuality, it's like almost unbelievable.
They are literally putting on paper and saying these things that are not rendered and that's not true.
I wonder if that falls under the constitutional, one of the amendments to the Constitution.
Because now only because I mentioned the criminal aspect of it is that you can't say, you can't
say, hey, you committed a crime in Georgia, and then Florida indicts you for that crime and then
grabs you, even if it's, if it's federal, and then grabs you and decides that we're going to put
you in a court in Florida, even if it wasn't like a, even if it wasn't, let's say, a state
issue, let's say it was federal. So I don't know. We have jurisdiction everywhere. You're right.
you do. And you ran, Matt, you ran a scam in Georgia. Okay, I ran a scam in Georgia. Great.
We're going to indict you in Florida for that scam. Wait a minute. Is there a connection between
here and Florida? No, no, but we know you did it. And we're going to, we're going to indict you
here in Florida for the crime you committed in Georgia. And we're going to arrest you and bring you
to Florida and put you on trial in a federal courthouse in Florida. Now, I understand it's federal,
but the bottom line is the Constitution says
I have to be indicted in that jurisdiction
where I committed the crime
and I have to be tried in the jurisdiction
and the reason for that is this
is that and this is why you have different jurisdictions
every jurisdiction has a different
they have a different feel for it
so for instance
you might in Georgia you might say hey
listen you're doing
a drug
and we have a real
problem with that drug here and we hate it and we we hammer guys that do that here so we give
these guys 30 years so we want to you've been you were doing it here you were selling it here we
indicted you here we tried you here you're in trouble well here's what happens is okay well if i can
get myself moved to another jurisdiction like if you were that drug dealer would you want to be
tried in georgia where they're giving these guys 30 years or would you say so it was less why don't we get it
move to the middle district of Florida where they're given people five years.
Yep.
Then the max.
So you get yourself moved.
But the problem is what typically happens with the government is the government says,
you know what?
He's selling the drug.
So the opposite is the truth.
They move you to the higher.
Right.
They move you to the jurisdiction where they know.
You're selling it here.
You're only going to get five years.
But if we get this guy moved to Georgia, they'll get them 30.
You see what I'm saying?
That's why it's the same thing with, it'd be like the death penalty.
We don't have the death penalty.
Let's say you have the death penalty in Florida, but you don't have.
have it in, you know, in New York, that I want to be moved.
I want to be tried in New York because if I'm found guilty, I'll get, well, I might get
life for 20 years, but I won't get, right, right. Right. Right. It's exactly that. And that's
exactly what's going on. So either way, this is something that happened in, if this is something
that happened in New York, then we need to stay in New York. You can't, you can't switch
jurisdictions. You have to, you know, you have to stay, you have to indict someone.
Or you have to try someone or you have to go to the court system in that state.
And the lawyers need to be in that.
That's why.
Lawyers can't go anywhere.
Lawyers can't go.
For instance, when I sued up from Devereoli, right, I hired a lawyer out of, I sued him in Florida.
Okay.
Hired a lawyer in Pennsylvania.
I hope it was Pennsylvania.
I think it was Pennsylvania.
So in Pennsylvania, she was the only one who took my case.
Right.
Can he represent me in Florida?
No. He's not licensed in the bar in Florida. So he had to file paperwork with the bar for a limited time to say, will you please let me try this case in Florida without taking the bar in Florida? And so he had to get a waiver. And the other side had to agree. I think they had to agree. That's not even true. I don't think they had to agree. But the bar had to say, for this limited case, we will allow you to try the case here. And the court.
signed off on it too. The court also had to say, yeah, that's fine. The laws are very similar or we
believe he'll figure out. And this was still federal, by the way. Okay. Two federal, these are
two federal jurisdictions. Right. So they're still federal. But they're monitoring and they're
kind of speaking amongst each other. In order to, I mean, it's federal, but the federal case was
filed in Florida. He's a state. Well, he also did federal, but he's still just, it's still
jurisdictional. You still have to get permission.
So he had to get permission from the bar and the federal court to represent me in Florida.
You know, and they could have said no.
I mean, and that the reason you do that is because, one, the laws are subtly different,
but the procedures are subtly different.
And so are the, for instance, in Oklahoma, they might give out big, big, you know,
they might give out big, you know, wins, like whatever I feel what you call it.
But let's say somebody wins, they might be given out $20 million.
But in Florida, they might be like, yeah, I understand you got burned when you drove through McDonald's for the coffee.
Right, right, right, right.
But we're giving you $2 million.
Right.
Well, in Oklahoma, they would have given us $20.
Yeah, but you're not in Oklahoma.
Right.
Florida, we're more conservative and we're not just giving out money like that.
Right.
So that's why it's jurisdictional.
You try and stay in your jurisdiction.
You can't be moving jurisdiction.
You're shopping.
They call it shopping jurisdiction.
Exactly.
And that's what I was saying in the housing court.
like I said I went through the process went through the procedures I had a you know they already gave me a judge they gave me the part and everything and then all of a sudden it was adjourned for later date with a whole different judge and a whole different part more than likely that's what they were doing they were shopping the judge shopping the judge yeah that's why you know it's sometimes the judge they'll try and get judges to where your honor you know you used to be in business you used to be in a firm with
This lawyer and so we want to get you,
they'll try, get them bumped to try and get them bumped to get another judge
because they're trying to get a more favorable judge.
Yep, yep.
And that's against the law.
You can't do that, but that's what they're doing.
Right in my face, right?
Like literally in real time.
And I'm like, wow, look at this under the adjournment.
Mm, okay.
Yeah, that's, yeah.
So, like I said, you know, it's at a point where it just really has to be federal.
It has to be investigated from a federal level.
I need the FBI to come in and look at the whole thing.
FBI has to look in the, yep.
Plus it terrifies people.
Yeah.
It does.
It does.
It does.
It does terrorize them and let them know that you can't hide behind the rock anymore.
This is who's doing it.
And that's what we want.
And this is what we need to show, you know, and this protects everybody.
You know what I mean?
And purchasing a home is one of our biggest assets.
You know what I mean?
And if we all purchase homes and we're not protected, it will continue to happen.
It has to stop at some point where you protect it.
You might need someone like, like Tom.
Simon to come in and write up
something and walk it into the FBI headquarters
and say this is what's going on.
Yes, yes. I don't know.
Yes, this is, that's exactly what's needed
to stop this. I don't think he'll do it.
I'll call him, but I think he'll be like,
is it in Florida?
Well, he could maybe, you know,
he knows people, you know, he may say,
hey, he might know somebody. He might know somebody.
And this is down, this is right down his alley too
because he did, well, he did
white collar crimes and financial.
And I don't think he knows a lot about
about title work though because we've had multiple conversations where he's like how does this
work what is what's what would be the thing that they would file i'm like they filed this or this
you know we so but you know he could call me and i could try and i could explain it and really the thing
is it's not hard to figure out anyway you can pick up the phone and call any title company and
late talk to the person of the title company and they'll be like no you can't do that he has to
go this is the procedure he needs to go through to do that okay but this is what the judge did and they'll be
like yeah that they can't do that like you um but you probably be better to get a retired FBI agent
that would lay it out for the FBI to let put it in somebody's lap and have them look through it and be
like okay I get it let me look into it exactly and then six months later or 18 months later
they might start look they'll start looking at it but like you said with the title company when
I went to court that's what I realized you know you know in one of my court cases I realized you know
the attorney came to me like how can we settle this situation and I was like go away
this is how we can settle the situation.
And I don't know what happened.
I may have picked up the phone.
He gave me his number.
You know, they seem pretty nice.
Hey, here's my number.
Call me if anything has changed.
I don't know what happened during the time we were waiting to go to court.
I called to me.
He was like, you know, I do some of these cases.
You know, who are you again?
He's like, oh, when I went to court, I was there for the title company.
And I was like the title company.
I thought you was representing the LLC, not the title company.
So then that's when I start realizing, once again,
Again, they're all connected.
The title companies in New York, and these Shell LLC are all the same people.
So because a title company is who signed off on all these people names on the property
with no proof to say who's the owner.
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