Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Serial Bank Robber Reveals How He Robbed 10 Banks | Matt Cox True Crime Podcast

Episode Date: January 2, 2024

Serial Bank Robber Reveals How He Robbed 10 Banks | Matt Cox True Crime Podcast

Robbing the bank to me because I played sports and I played football is like running for a touchdown. Hey, this is Matt Cox, and I am here with, we're going to do a podcast here with Robert, Batman Edwards, and he's robbed 10 banks in an armored car. Approximately 10 banks in an armored car, which, and so, all right, so we're going to do a an interview real quick check it out all right so all right so it's bat i'm going to call you batman yes sir all right so everybody calls you batman well we have a mutual friend that calls you a rob but so batman everybody i noticed when you called me it said batman a lot of people a lot of people tell me that i didn't even know i was i don't know how i happen but um so uh okay so what happened let's start real quick with um basically where were you born

Well, I was born here. Yeah, I was born here in Tampa. You know, I was born in 1967, December 23rd, Christmas phase. All right. Yeah, I was born in the Semino area, in Ohio area. I went to Greco. I went to Slide Junior High School. I went to King for my sophomore year, but I ended up going to Armwood for my,

to finish my two years of my graduated, first class. I'm like, um, I started working at a roughly young age, I guess, while I was in school, I think I was school, I was working also. I was working at a Mexican restaurant on Del Mabry called Casa Gajardo. Um, I started out there washing dishes, um, busing things of that nature. Um, you know, working with work, um, out to that. I, I, you know, I, I, you know, I, Growing up, I always wanted, I guess, to be my own person. I wasn't really good with people really telling me what to do. I love to learn, but once I figured out I got the job, I'm ready to go, you know, I want to be off on my own.

You feel them instead of somebody telling me, hey, man, hey, we need you do this. And I got kind of like fed up, not being able to move further at Costa Garado in my job. They just wanted to continue me busing and watching dishes and things. So we had a problem. People were getting hired above me. Right. And, yeah, people was hired in above me. I had been there like a year and a half or so and just wasn't moving from that spot.

End up getting fired, sort of kind of quit at the same time because I just neglected doing the things I was supposed to do at the job coming in late things of that nature because I just was ready to go with when I was getting fed up with. so after that little venture I was unemployed I was living with my mom just hanging out with fellas doing a little thing my brother-in-law we were just you know hanging out doing a little thing here and there things of that nature I started another job yeah I started another job this was probably 92 I was working with my father at Ed Morris Cadillight. At the same time, I was working for, I was working two jobs at that time.

I was working at Ed Morris Calilite and I also was working at Cash and Carrey. I was working at Mores in the daytime, Cash and Carrey at night. Is Cassian Carrey still around? No, okay. I think Win Dixie bought out Cash and Carrey

something like that back in the day. So I was working at Cash and Carrey at night from midnight to like seven in the morning. Put the stock up and then like 8, 9 o'clock in the morning, I'd go from there to Ed Morris Cadillac and I drove parts. I was a parts delivery. So after a while, I did with and dabbled in different things. I got out there in the streets a little bit while I was doing the parts going by my cousin's house, seeing how they were making thousands of thousands of dollars a day, you know, just sitting around the house.

You know, I was like, man, how did y'all doing this? so he was like hey you know we're doing this right here this right here came out which is was crack crack cocaine right okay I was like damn what is that and he was like oh they take cocaine they made this right here so I started doing that for a little while he showed me the ropes made some money in that end up quitting the job at edmore's cattle like in when dixie because the bunny doing the other thing was greater than working both of those jobs you know I was making a lot more money at that time i think Reagan was president and they had he he he made a drug seizure or something they they was fighting the drugs against uh Colombia or whatever the big

drug thing going on that year and so it was hard to get cocaine it was hard to get product right you know so it was and I was a ball guy I was nothing big or nothing so if the big guy wasn't getting it you don't definitely the small guy wasn't getting it so I was spending my money it wasn't it wasn't there it was just going going going I would I had everything going out with nothing coming in so we were sitting around with my brother-in-law you know we're just talking and I was like I think I said something like man you know what man I need to rob a bang something like that and he was like oh rob a bang I was like yeah man that's like man look that's the only place you're gonna go get it

and it's there just got to know how to do it you just You just got to be able to do it. And he was like, he just smiled. He was just laughing. He was just, I mean, there's a quote from a guy named Slick Willie Sutton, who was a bank robbery. They asked him, like, why do you rob banks? He goes, because that's where the money is. That's where the money is.

Straight to the source. I mean, you know, growing up, you watch the news. People was robbing, like, little grocery stores, little gas stations and getting, what, like, $500 and stuff. I was like, man, look, no, why would you take that chance when you can take a chance to do something bigger? You're going to get basically almost the same time. Look, if I'm going to do that, I'm going to do that. I always been about bigger things, you feel? I've always been about big.

There's nothing small and petty about me. If I'm going to go, I'm going to go all the way. I've always been like that. I always thought like that. So my brother-in-law, I think, like maybe two days later or something, he came to me. He was like, hey, man. I know this guy and he wants to rob a bank like yeah who is he like oh it's this white guy no yeah like yeah so a white guy he's just serious you know he was there like I was like man

maybe he just bullshit and he might not be but he says it's a white dude I like well this guy might know something we can probably be able to help but he might know so anyway look he introduced me to him he brought him over he introduced him over he introduced to him he told me he had been watching his bank and I was like yeah it was so crazy man this guy come and take me to this bank it's okay if I give address yeah okay so he went and took me to this bank it's a bank on hills for a ban that's my first bank my very very first bank hated that thing reason being because you buzzed in that was my first thing why would you rob a bang you have to be

buzzed in that but super he was like man I've been watching this gonna be easy man it's easy you can it's gonna be easy I'm telling you I was premature I was okay he's been watching I'm gonna do this he's like I got a guy you gonna steal the car and we're gonna do it well I say look we're gonna need two cars if I'm gonna do it we're going to need two cars because simple fact on that first car once they once they get that that making model that car they're going to be on it so we're going to have to be able to get to another car without being seen leave that car there and we're going to that was my whole thing given a whole given making a like an obstacle illusion make them think i'm going one way

when i went the other way you feel so what i would do i would get in the car get to my other car have no one seen me been in the corner when they think you're going north I'm actually going to be going back south or something like that I'm going to get to you right here this is how it happened I said look we're going to happen we're going to need two cars he said okay fine puff no problem we end up getting a Mustang stole the Mustang he got from somewhere one of his buddy got a Mustang we've already had a maximum okay a Nissan maximum I had basically got that match for myself from the Nissan place on Fletcher.

Oh, Fletcher is crazy. With keys and everything. So I have been driving that car for maybe like six months or so. So that was going to be our second car. So it was me, him, and another guy. I'm going to just call him D. D was with us. We had everything.

We had the gun. We had the math. we had the bags we we had clothes I had a change of clothes because I always wanted to go in the bank with one one outfit on but I wanted to be able to change when I'm coming out or wherever I go I want to be able to be changed I don't want to have the same type of clothes on because I know them the first thing people are going to be looking for the officer going to be looking for that so as we're driving up Hillsboro we get to Armenia right okay you know the bank I'm talking about is the next light we

which is a banal. The guy who was with me, the D was in the back, the other guy who originally, the white guy, he was sitting in the front. As soon as I pulled up to the light, the guy just started crying. He said, Rob, I can't do this, man. I can't do this.

And I like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what the? He's like, no, man, I'm on Fredo-Bahian, I can't do that. Which guy is this? This is the white guy who originally, who said he wanted it, who I was introduced to, to do this. Okay.

all right so he's on federal paper he's on federal paper for utter and a forged instrument i found out that later anyway we pull up till the light hill's burning me and this guy like man i can't do it man i just can't do it i can't do it i can't do it i say damn okay rod what you gonna do i say just chill you're okay it's okay i say hey damn what's up what's d hey what's up i said you still want to do this you like hey man whatever you want to do I said, fucker, we're going to do it. I pull over over there to Crystals. Crystal's hamburgers right there.

I pulled over to crystals right across the street from the bank. Right. Dropped him off. The white guy got out. Dana got up front. It's just me and him already have the Nissan Maximum behind the Wind Dixie. Because right there on the corner was the bank. The grocery store right there was Wind Dixie.

Oh, Wind Dixie. I'm not mistaken. because it's Publix now, but it wasn't Publis. Yes, it was public. It was Publix then. So we put the other getaway vehicle behind Publis. So, me and Dana. The new BMO, V-I-Porter MasterCard,

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we go out to the bank i already know we had to be buzz in because he told it but i didn't want to do it because you never even I didn't even know you never you didn't you check it out yourself first you just thought he had it all take well I went first that night before I went to look in the window right but you didn't okay but it wasn't open you know it wasn't open I went at night just to look in the window I wanted to see everywhere the camera laid place the layout you know where everything how far I'm going to have to run I did that but I never went in there before that prior to that me and Dana we pulled up to the front of the bank we're sitting there in the car. I don't think I got my mask pulled down. I just got to like pull right at the top

around my head. Okay, we're sitting there. I got gloves on there. I see two old people getting out the car. I know they're going to have to be buzzed in. I say, Dana, you see them two people right there? When they get out the car and they get up there, we're going here right behind them. I said, all right. Never not knowing that Dana's going to really go behind me, I'm just thinking, Hey, when you see me get out, you're behind me. I'm going to go, I'm with you, man, I'm with you. The old people come out, they're kind of really old because they're, like, leaning on each other. They're taking their time.

I think the guy, the older man, he opens up the door for the lady. As soon as she started to walk in, boom, I jumps out of the car. I go, here come Dana. I open up the door, grab the door. Dana comes behind me. I don't even see where Dana plays. I just know I have to get money. I run straight to the counter.

I hear in my ear, I hear the manager say, just do what they want. Just do what they want. I'm going. I'm over the counter, bam. I come down. I pull them out the corner of them. I got a bag on my shoulder right here.

I'm putting my in. I'm stuffing stuff and stuff, stuff, stuff, stuff. I don't think they had a drive-through. I can't remember they had the drive-through, but I don't think I hit the drive-to. I was just like trying to hurry up, hurry. I would get as much as I can to get out. I think they didn't say time.

And when he said time, it was like 90 seconds. When he say time, I come back over the counter, boom. We come out, we jump in the car. I head out of the bank, down to me, around behind to Publitz where the other cars are at. I jump in there. I say, I'm making them think that I'm going up Havana heading. Wait a second. Did you have a gun?

I didn't have a gun. He had the gun. Oh, okay. All right. I didn't have a gun that time, but after a while I started. Right, right, right. Yeah, because it doesn't matter if you people don't realize, like, if you say he has a gun, I might as well have a gun. Right, exactly.

We're all getting charged with the gun. Exactly. So, and I didn't want me being in the process of doing, I had to do to leave the gun, drop the gun, or something of that nature. So I wanted him to be the one to protect me. Right. You do your job. I'm doing my job. We straight.

So, okay, so we came out of bank. I jumped in the car. We went behind, changed it to the second car. now they're thinking I'm heading south of Havana but I jumped in the second car came around came back up to Hillsboro to Armenia heading east on Hillsboro to our location

so after that Dana and me went the guy who was with me the white guy he had called another acquaintance that we knew to pick him up because I was like damn how did I meet up with him because I paid him I wanted him to be a part of it right I paid him for the car and to have watched me do the whole thing I gave him money because I wanted him to keep his mouth right I was going to say

I wanted him to be a part of it feels like if he's if he's a part of it there's a better chance he doesn't tell anybody exactly So that's why I did that even the guy who came to pick him up knew about it. I paid him also. I gave him $500 and I gave him $500. I think out of that first bank there, I got like $2,400, $2,700. Yourself or just total? Total.

The average bank robber gets like $3,500 total. Or I think it used to be $1,500. I think it's like $3,500 in that range. It's not a lot. It's not a lot. because I never wanted I mean it was fresh to me it was it was it was my first it was my very first so but to get a lot of money you have to do like a takeover like you have to right you have to do a takeover and that's super dangerous that's super stupid yeah you know I mean

no we're not we wouldn't it's not it's not heat or nothing like that we're we're not equipped to do anything like that and it just even the movie heat right it doesn't make sense But my thing was to just in a small amount of time Get as much as I can And on that first one, it was 2,700 I was pissed because... You had a better chance to get in a way. I was pissed because I was thinking

that we were going to get a little bit more than that Going by what we had spoke about earlier Me and the other guy, the white guy And, you know, I guess from what he's heard, what he's seen I don't know, we got that information We were going to get like 25. We were going to get like 25. 30,000.

Yeah. Because I guess he was going by what he thought tillers hold in the teals, but he's absolutely wrong. Yeah. You have to go in like the cash drawer or something. You have, it's called a cash cow, which is behind them,

but I didn't know about that until later on in my bank robbery endeavor or whatever. But anyway. So we get back to my location, I guess I went back to my house, the county all up and divide. among the people who was involved. And I was like, damn, okay, that's crazy.

I can't believe that's all I got. And I relived it. I relived it to see, okay, where did I? Oh, how could I have got more? What could I have done? And to stay safer, super safe, there was kind of like nothing I could have done because I didn't want to be in there

no longer than I was, you know. And I hit everything there. was there but this was a small bank they don't really do that much business and that's one thing that I didn't know it depends on the bank and as things went along the money got greater so you know I don't know the time period I did them in between I'm thinking a couple months maybe like four or five months I my second one was my second one was on I think down near like Bayshore area is it was a sun bank and it was off like Howard and Mina down there again the Kennedy area we were riding around

and then, you know, we hung out pretty tight. We were just riding around. We spent the money. I had no funds coming in. And I was like, okay, man, we need another bank. So I got down towards that area. I seen this bank, and it was surrounded by shrug, brushed trees, you know, hedges all the way around it.

It was two ways in and two ways out. You know, you could have got into that engine on the back end, or as you're going down that main street there, you could turn it in right off the road, but it had one there and one there. But the thing about it was it was hidden. It's all like, man, I can do this. It's hidden.

So after the banked clothes, I went just to look through the window to look at the layout. And I didn't have the white guy anymore. Right. It was me. It was all my planning. I had to come up with the cars now because he knew people who can steal cars.

I didn't know anyone who could steal cars. I didn't start getting in trouble until I was like 25 years of age. Right. You know, I don't have a juvenile criminal record or anything of that nature. So I knew the Spanish guy who I was closely familiar with. He knew people, Spanish guys. You know how to steal cars, you know, really quit with a screwdriver. I was like, damn, I know how to hell they can, a street driver?

That's it. Yeah, man, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I said, hey, whoever gets me a car, I give him $500. Don't give me a car. I give him $5,00 a lot of. So we had got the car. I still had the Nissan maximum at the time. I was still using it.

I already used it in the first bank robbery. Didn't get called and nothing like that. Still had it. So that was going to be my second car again to use in the second bank of it. So he got the car for me. me and d we got together um i think the first day we went down there we i'm trying to find a good location to sit and wait because i think it was kind of busy that first day as i was trying to find a place to sit i seen a tpd officer ride down the street i told anna we're not doing it today

he's like oh man he might be going to lunch he's going down he's like i like we're not doing it today. Right. Anytime I've seen an officer in that area, period. I didn't do it regardless. Because everything's on my side. Timing is on my side. I can pick and choose the time to do it whenever I want to.

I don't have to rush it, you know. I wasn't, I wait tomorrow. Okay. Not a problem. Because that spooked me by officers. That's like it was a warning to me. I don't know. I just felt like, hell now.

I got tomorrow Right We go leave Regu wait tomorrow Get back together That tomorrow and morning Get everything

We come back So this time Everything was smooth It was good We went in there It was how they know Cars in the parking area Of the bank

Pull the route Put right into the front of the bank Bam Just jumped out Went in He came right behind me We were in I was already

Over the counter Before the two ladies Was in there even knew. One, it was two black ladies, two black females, one, was over at, like, an office desk or something. She was sitting there, wiping it down, but I think she had her back to me. And the other one was, I'm not sure exactly, but I remember when she came out, but I was already behind the counter getting money. So I spent roughly 30, 40 minutes, seconds, 30, 40 seconds, putting out money, put out money. It was not really a lot of money, though.

and um jump back over the counter came out now this was a exciting part as i'm coming over the counter come out of the door we were in a yeah okay we were in a uh lincoln a lincoln town car stolen lincoln town car that was the first car that we pull up in the bank in when i got out of the bank i'm pulling off with the bag of money We heard a poof in the car. Oh, the die pack. DiPack went off in the car. We had all the windows up in the car.

But it's in the bag. It's in the bag. Did it blow through it? All the smoke and everything, tear gas and everything is coming out of the bag. As we're driving down the street, right, we got, I'm looking over at him. I couldn't even hardly see him. That's how much is in there. And he got slob and tears coming out of his eyes and snuck coming out of his nose.

And I'm like, man, I'm trying to get the, we trying to get the window down. We couldn't get the window down because it's a Lincoln Town car. Before the big window go down, that little window has to go down first. I couldn't see it. Couldn't see that that window was going down. We just knew that that big one was going down because we couldn't. They may, open up the door. I'm driving down the street with both doors open.

His door in my door, airing it out. I pulled around the corner. We pulled to the second car, which is the Nissan Maximum, get out, throw it in part, grab a bag, jump in your other car. We come around Bayshore. I take Bayshore all the way down to, like, downtown. jump on the interstate, get off on 50th Street because I stayed over there on 56.

When we get to my house, we pulled all the money onto the carpet. A lot of money had red, dye all over it. It was burnt because when it explodes, when it explodes, die gets all over, and it's hot, it's burning. So some of the money had burnt spots all in it. So what we did, we separated the money

to get the money that basically had no burns, no ink or nothing like that on it. And if I'm not mistaken, it came up to like $3,500 that didn't have anything wrong with it. And like five grand that had ink and everything on. Check this out.

It's true. Dana was young. D. Dana. He was young. And I know that he wasn't going to get into that red money because that would have got us messed up. Right. So I took the $3,500. I gave him $1,500, and I kept $2,000.

I still have the $5,000 that was burnt. Some of it burnt, like holes in the spots in it. but a lot of red. Me and my girl were sitting there looking at all this money with all this red ink on it and I'm like, man, I told Dana. After I paid Dana, I said, hey, look, check this out. Here and nobody, don't tell nobody nothing.

Hey, you tell them that you got a lawsuit or somebody left you some money, but don't ever tell anybody about anything we do. That was with anybody with me. I always made sure I embedded that in their head but I say if I'm able to do something

with this money if I can clean it up then I'm gonna break bread with you I'm gonna go ahead and pay you I'm gonna give you what you your percentage out of this if I can't I'm gonna destroy it and get rid of it so he's like okay okay he was happy

I could give him $500 he would have been happy right you know because you know and you already got away yeah we got away and it was it mean He was with me because it was hard to come across money. I don't know if he didn't like working. I didn't know. I didn't like, we just wasn't working.

We were together. We were doing our thing. I gave him that, and me and my girl were sitting there. We were sitting in an apartment looking at all this money with red dye, and I'm like, man, damn, man, uh-uh. I cannot throw this away. My aunt, granted, worked at Clorox. And I remember, like, the week before, check it.

God's good My unworked at Chlorox And I remember like the week before I was over her house Like doing some hedges Or cutting some grass You know we did

Side jobs cutting grass Trying to come up You know And she's like I'm robber I got a bunch of bleaching All kind of stain removing All kind of stuff like that

Now if you ever need something If you want something Go ahead and get you something Cause they give us all them Damage cases I got She did Now her utility

She got cases and cases I was like, now I don't need nothing right now, I'm straight, I'm good. She said, okay, so I thought about my aunt when I'm sitting there looking at this money. I'm like, man, there's got to be worth of try. So I go to my aunt house, I say, hey, Gene, what I'm like, hi, hi, I say, hey, I say, you remember you said you had all that bleach and stained removal stuff? You think I can get some? She said, boy, go on in there, you get whatever you want.

So she had, like, three different kind of stain removers. different kind of bleach so I got it all one of this one of that one of that I went back to the house and got a five gallon bucket empty empty bucket I poured half water into the five gallon I put water into a half pulled all the money in there pushed all the money in there all the red dye money now all the stain removing stuff bleach I pulled it in on top of it I just started swirling around so I say hey they're gonna take like 200 is money and we fin to and go to the grocery store i'm gonna take a shower real quick while i'm doing this i get out of the shower

and i come back i just happened to go and glance over in the bucket and i see like a red film starting to float on top of the water and i said damn this might work so boom me and my girl we get together we go to the grocery store we spend like two hundred dollars come back we put the girl's up i said okay now i'm gonna get the money so when i got the money pulled all the water all now you know water and chemical separates right so whichever the money that was in the chemical the longer the most of the money that was in the chemical it was the weakest the money that was above that was mostly in the water it was a little bit better so when I pulled all the water off cleaned it all up it made the bills weak they were clean wasn't no red on it period at all and I told the fizz I don't get to that um so i said okay baby we gotta we gotta dry the money up so we put some in the oven we got iron we we dry in this money we doing whatever you know but the only thing about it is the money that was down in the chemical the longest you know when you do money you do it like this

it'll just come apart okay so i say we we got to go to uh edgar dress though and get some tape so for real man this is it so five thousand dollars let's say two thousand of it was really really weak right it was clean pristine clean really it was clean but the money that was down in the um the liquid the chemicals the longest was the weakest so i said you know what i'm gonna i got all this scotch tape like wrapping presents and stuff i put here a lot of money the one that ripped the wheat i put tape all around it right So what I would do, I would get, like, three or four of those bills that had tape, some good bills, and I would go get money orders.

Like, in a day, you know, we can get money orders up to $250 money. So I'm going around all these different stores trying to change this money, getting money orders. And it worked, and they did. This one store that was on Kennedy that we just happened to go around to it, and it's just a bit off track, but it's just something apart. The story that I was telling. I went to this, like, Oriental store, and they had money orders. I got a $250 dollar money, and he was like, hey, my friend, what's wrong with the money?

I said, my girl, why's the guy, real, though, man, it's good, don't put you. I don't know. I can't remember how they used to check it then. I think maybe with the pen and then, back then, I don't, I can't remember. But he took it, gave me money order. I used the money order with a couple other money orders to pay my rent at my apartment complex for that month right only that one

oriental guy he stopped payment on the money order and I'm not sure what he did with the money but I did a lot of money orders but that was the only one he stopped payment my rent lady came knocked on the door

boom boom boom she said Rob I said hey what's that you remember that money order you gave me to pay the rent I said yeah what's wrong she's like they stopped payment on it. She's like, I don't know. I ain't never seen nobody stop payment on the money water. He must have had some issues with the when he turned the money into the bank, they wouldn't take it. Exactly. So he stopped payment. I said, okay, cool, no problem.

So I went in the house, went in the shoe about, got out 250, whatever it was, and gave it to him. And it was cool. So that was, that was, that was from, that was from the second. That was from the second bank. That's when a die pack blew up. On my third bank, I got tired of, like, getting the small amount of money. I wanted to get a bigger amount of money. So I said, you know what? I'm going to bring some guys in. I'm going to get two other guys.

Instead of just me alone trying to get the money, I'm going to have two guys over the county getting the money. Right. And two guys watching my bag. So I go out, I go out the Kerrwood area over on. Anderson. Right. So it's like a suburb of Tampa.

Yeah, yeah. Right over there. I think it was Anderson Road over there. They had a, what was that thing? It really doesn't matter. We got that bank. And you just go get two guys. You just go talk, do you just know two buddies that'll rob a bank with you?

No. No. They're not just to anybody. Because Colby's not robbing a bank. Okay, so. I mean, I'm a good talker. Right. There's some guys that had been hanging out with me,

and I know they were good for what I needed them for. They had already knew about what I was doing, but I just never brought them in. I didn't need them, you know. And it was close people. I'm not going to mention any family member, friends, you know, people of that nature that I knew I could trust and stuff like that.

And I brought two other guys in. We, I had went out to the, to the one out there on our Anderson and Carolwood area. And I, I thought maybe there would be a good chance of me to get more money. I'm not sure. I think I had went out there one time before. And I had to go in there to do some coin exchange, money exchange or something. And, and, and they had a lot of money on the counter. And I was like, man, I would like to come back here.

I think it was we had just hit a house or something we got some foreign currency and we needed somewhere to take the money to it I had just happened to go over there to go in there and it just was counting money all on that bank counting it was just kind of like man but you wouldn't know with the face so there was nothing to be done that day

I like I want to do this right I like this so I went back out there I went back out there the next day and I was like okay so I got to find a getaway around I got to make them things going on one way and we're going to go the other way so I decided okay we're going to go down Anderson we're going to go down and this and it's apartment complex soon

you get out of the out of the frame of the bank there was apartment complex I can turn it up and go through and then I can come back and come out gun damn that's that road good I can come back up and come out again so I say okay yeah okay well you know by the way just the naming the streets and everything doesn't matter because people and they don't know what hell is yeah I mean people I people in Australia but the people who do they're like man that guy's smart so people who's around so you you figured out with the you so I figured out the area and how I wanted to do it to make them think that um you know we're we're heading back

south when I'm I'm actually heading these I came up that night took a peek in to see the layout to see exactly where everything was at if I'm not mistaken that same day I placed the car so I had it there overnight that was the that was the one I had the keys to and I was that was the Nissan maximum always had the keys and the one that was used with the strew driver that we paid someone to get that was the go up to car so we this is a funny one too so we're we're driving up and care you know we're going towards the towards our location and I pull up into the park parking lot and it also is a grocery store inside that area too so we pulled

around it's pretty big parking lot and I'm looking at it from a distance at the bank to see who's there make sure no officers it's in the parking lot roaming around just to see where everyone's placed at so I started towards the bank once I got up to the bank I found a nice parking area where I wanted to be I'm always want to be towards the front of the bank it's not in the front parking area of the bank just because it cut down time and soon as we pull up through the bank we get out and I think this one was a astro minivan this was an astro minivan and I love astro minivan for the simple fact that when I'm going to the second

location the guy's able to change their clothes standing up in the back of the minivan sliding doors it's just bigger roomier you can do a lot of more things than you know as far as getting ready so we pull up to it we left the vehicle running I run up to it and it was just great timing that I pulled up at that time because Wells Farrell must have just had left that bank because they had thousands of dollars right on the front counter and normally that's what they do they have to count the money after the money is delivered they have to you know count and make sure it's what's on the tag what's on the receipt is what was it delivered.

Right. So it just happened to be. So when I jumped, when I went through the door, there was four of us. Two people was going to go over the counter, two people was going to hold their one at bay. So when I ran in, I'm the first person. When I jumped over the counter, I didn't even have to jump off of the counter because all the money was right there. So what I did was squat down and just started grabbing money from the counter.

Didn't even have a jump. And my second guy, he jumped on the counter too, and he was grabbing money. But I, from my prefer vision, I seen he had got off the counter and doing whatever. Man, look, I'm getting this money. So after I get all the money off the counter and he was doing what he did, I felt like I had enough time. I didn't even check the drawers because I had spent so much time on top of the counter and getting the money.

I came down, hey, let's go. We proceeded towards the door. We went out of the door. as we get back in the minivan as soon as I'm pulling out the one person who went over the counter with me inside of his pants he stuck a thing

a 20s a band of 20s and I think if I'm not mistaken a band of 20s is $2,000 he stuck it in his pants and it was a die pack and it blew up in his pants he's thinking you guys won't yeah I'm going to steal a little bit more

not tell them like hey this is what I got but he's actually got a couple extra grand right but he's also so it came back on him because he's got true story true story that so you have like 30 to 40 seconds after you breached the door from the bank that the die pack don't go all soon as we hit the um got in a minivan I'm pulling out to go on the engine to go to my second car boom blow oh I'm driving like hey man hey what the fuck is that you know oh no I know and I said get it get it out I already know I already had a die pack before yeah and I'm thinking I'm so I'm so quick I was like I'm thinking he tried to cuff yeah two thousand dollars put in his pan it blew up on it he pulled out one he pulled that one stack of 20s from the

left side of the drawer because it's always going to be a die pack there I found that out too later anyway so he threw it out the winter roll the window down he threw it out the window I read that as we was getting back on the island through it. I was doing it. It wasn't that bad as far because I guess he muffed it by having it in his pants, but he had on like two or three paraphrans, so he didn't really get burned, I guess I don't know.

But he, a die pack blew up in his pants. All right. I get to my second vehicle. This is a crazy thing too. I get to my second vehicle. We're getting out of the van to get everything. We'll have and Dana as I'm leaving

I'm asking everybody, okay, where's the weapons where's this where's this whatever we want he left one of his pistols in the minivan that was like one of the first bad things that i could think of that ever could have because now i'm thinking damn was any fingerprints on it was any fingerprints on the bullet was there this fit or shit there ain't there ain't no state it's real you have to be on point so no problem um as we're leaving because i'm making them think that we're heading south, but we're actually heading east. We see the helicopter

heading back towards the bank. Right. So I'm already in my second vehicle. They're looking for a white asteroid van where I'm in a burgundy Nissan Maximum. So as we go on, we see the helicopter going and, you know, another thing that I also used to do. Underneath the outfit that I went in the bank always had a shirt and tie. A white shirt, with a tie and in the back of the Nissan Maxim I used to have a blazer a jacket hanging up there

for the guys in the back I always wanted to be looked like I was the only one in the car so I had them down on the ground on the floor in the car after we got out of the van to get in our second vehicle to get back to the house they was in the back seat down the blazer hanging up I'm sitting alone driving with a white shirt and tie on make me look you know like not presentable exactly so um i'm headed back to the house after that one so what did you guys get there roughly i mean i know you did the 57 oh okay 57 all right i think i get like 30 from my personal 57 000 right oh okay well that's a decent yeah yeah okay well that's yeah yeah i thought you got 57 no i remember all the money was on the table right yeah yeah so i'm not

sure how much fell on the floor or anything like that so As time went, time went by, you know, I did and dabbled and did other little things of that nature, and two or three more went by into this one that I said, you know, I think I had Tampa hot. I think it was, you know, I had already at this time did like five, six banks, and I couldn't really find an area or a bank that I pretty, much can do and had all the things that I needed, you know, the optical illusion get away route or, or knew that there wasn't a lot of cops in that era. So I kind of like did everything I could do on this part. So I said, you know what? I'm going to go across the bridge.

I want to go to Pinellas County to see what they got the offer over there. So we just took a ride and I went and I seen, as soon as I got across Gandhi, and got on the 4th Street. Yeah, 4th Street, St. Pete, over there. I turned to the left and right off, right off, Gandy there was a bank. I think it was a first national thing or something similar to that. And I was like, man, this is pretty good. This is pretty good because there was a side street also that cuts off from the bank.

And there was an apartment, brand new apartment complex, It looked like it had like 500 units, so it was kind of huge. And I said, I can come off the main street, boom, boom, or go off the main street, cut down the side street, come out there, and then jump back on again and take the bridge across and come to Tampa. I like, I can pretty much, I can do this. So we waited to that night, went back over there, and I just wanted to look at the layout of the banks.

I mean, basically banks are pretty much all set up the same. but just you personally just knowing you have that visualization of where you're going what you're going to do is a plus for me me not being blind i'm already know where the chairs laid out i know where the cameras i know where to counter you want to know you as soon as i get i got to run 20 feet this way over the thing not i think that was my that was my thing of looking at night i could have come in a daytime and go on but then the cameras probably get you exactly exactly so I got a layout I got a view of the layout we got all our tools of everything we needed we went ahead and placed a second car over an apartment complex which was pretty cool it was a big apartment complex and when a lot of people who's fairly new so was a lot of people walking the dogs out so I thought that was pretty good um this was a pretty decent bank we hit we push I think I rolled down 4th Street just to see if there was any

cost in the area. I didn't really see anything. I think I did it on the first day. I didn't have to come back to the second day and none, I think. It was like the perfect song. Everything was on my side. I pulled up to the bank. It was just

me and Dana. It was just two people on this one. I don't remember correctly. I pulled up into the bank got out of the car wasn't no traffic wasn't a lot of people

coming out of nothing the one particular thing that I can remember about this bank that there was a bunch of college kids in there and robbing the bank

to me because I played sports and I played football is like running for a touchdown you can hear the crowd but you can't it's like you're in a silent state you kind of like

focus in on what you're trying to do or what you're doing. And that's the same thing in, like, robbing the bank, because when I was going after that money, I was focusing in what I had to do, but I can also hear the baby in the background crying or somebody screaming or yelling an old lady or something, some of that nature. But one thing about this bank right here in particular, I can hear the college kids that was cheering us on, they were like, go, man, yeah, yeah, yeah, go, go, go. And that was just like one thing that stood out in that bank.

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I always, no, I get him like 12. because I always I always felt like this was my thing I'm always going to get majority of the pay I'm always the one who invested I'm the one who invested time in

I'm the one who invested the gas I'm the one who invested on the planning so all that costs but the good thing about the guys who I ever did anything with they never questioned what I gave them right well I mean the years

talking about a guy who's he's getting five or ten grand he's not making anything I think I think the reason being is because they knew just knowing me or being my friend they're going to always be opportunities for them to make money right so why bitch about something then he might not need me for the next one right so they never man why did I get this man how much you got that never occurred right um so as time went there was like my My last one, I was pretty much like getting out of the bank thing. I was, I had me a detail business going on.

I was not really hurting for money. I think I had just did when I had a substantial amount of money. I was pretty good at the time. And I think I had came up on a Jamaican guy who was fronting me pounded the time. I was, whatever the case was, but I was good. I wasn't really thinking about banks. My girl, her friend comes up, and she kind of like knew what I was doing but didn't know what I was doing or didn't want to tell me, but kind of like, she's like, bro, she used to call me bro. She's like, bro, man, I need you.

I'm like, okay, well then, what you need? She's like, man, I was down in E-Boer this weekend, and this white girl, she pulled out in front of me, and I hit her car, and it wasn't nothing wrong with her car, and wasn't nothing wrong with my car, and we thought it was okay, so I just left, and now she got my tag number and put out for a hit-and-run, and I got the chair, the top of the P.D. calling me, talking about the detective looking for me and all this, but I need to get some money and get my car fixed. She's like, man, I don't know what you do, but I'll do anything you need me to do. You want me to drive. You want me to do. did whatever i'm like what the hell is she talking about i'm like what you say what you need she's like me i need like maybe like a thousand dollars or something so i was like damn man i want to help because i'm always wanting to help people i'm always you know i always thought about you know i like robin hood and stuff you know people people But, like, when I was a kid growing up, Robin, who was my favorite guy, you know, Batman and Robin, things of that nature, helping other people who didn't have, you know,

trying to look out, that was kind of like me. So I had already seen this one bank that was on Himes in between Hillsboro and MLK. And it was across the street from L. Lopez Park, whatever they call it right now. and it was kind of like hitting away too you know I had brushes and trubs all around

it was kind of like hitting off in the cut so this girl she like depended on me it was like I was her last you know

resource and I was like I could do this and I can make myself look good at the same time helping her you know I could be that big brother she said I would

you know come in at the and not only that I can you know put a few more dollars in my pocket also I'm pretty good at what I do so I'm like and then she went to help I'm like what could she do

what could I use her for I say damn I won't have to pay someone $500 I can use her vehicle for the second vehicle right so that's what we do on the first vehicle I use

the maximum right i used that for the first vehicle and i use her car for the second vehicle i left the maxima hidden in the apartment complex where hers was that right around the corner from the bank on um on um on hym right behind there there's apartment complex and i and i'm thinking that because of the way the apartment complex is set up you turn in and you go and it's hidden off the street they're never going to find the car so i'll come back by days later and I get the car. But there was a guy up in the apartment complex up there.

When we came back to switch cars after doing the bank, he was up in the third floor apartment looking down. And that guy right there kind of like told what the second vehicle was and they were looking for her car and that's how I got screwed up.

So now they didn't know me. They just knew that vehicle was a vehicle that the people who robbed the bank left in. Right. Okay. So she had took her vehicle and placed it off a street

off of MLK and I don't know, North Boulevard, let's say that. TPD, right, and all the other places looking for that vehicle because when they came looking, they swarmed that area. Somehow they knew that they just searched right there for the first vehicle and they found it and the guy out there

seeing all these cops down there. He came down here, hey, I was him. money and the woo woo a different type of vehicle uh Subaru whatever it was so now they're looking for her for that car okay now as I told you before earlier there was a guy who had did other little in and odd jobs with me when we used like just going houses big houses do little things he had did something without my knowledge and he got a Rolex watch

which he went and ponded his name so this is a guy who did like a robbery you were doing robberies right he did a robbery on his own he wasn't supposed to he wasn't supposed to or you know you're your own person right you can do whatever you want to do

but don't mention me and anything right you know and I and to be honest with you I think I used to tell him don't do anything that we did together right make up something else Don't do, you know, people know my M.O. Don't do anything. It gives you some wiggle room. Right, exactly.

So he took another guy and they went, they got a Rolex watch out of some house or something. He went and pawned in his name. And that's how they got along to him, got on to him, which he put them on to me. Right. Now, the reason why he put, they, he put them on to me because they found a jacket that was in his house. And that jacket was from a squat team member's house that I had. had went and kicked the door. Right.

So this is another robbery you guys did, and there was SWAT team stuff and guns. Just a B&E, right. So we took all the guns, the squad team. He took the jacket. I took like some bulletproof vests, things of that nature. So they connect him to that. And he got a question, when he goes into that other one and he gets the Rolex, was that like a home invasion?

It wasn't a home invasion. It was just like a Kicked the door in it, like a B&E, breaking an inner. Was someone in the house? No. okay okay so he's in trouble he's just not in that much trouble right not in 20 years after they finding him after they finding him with that jacket that jacket makes him in that much trouble because those are the simple fact they want them guns you know we had siggs sawyer nine millimeters we had um AKs we had saw all shotguns that came out of there we had them

right because the SWAT team members going to have a lot of different guns the military um automatic weapons like you see them Germans and yeah we had I had them so they wanted so they put the press on him and he told them about me now my birthday

is December 23rd and on December twin Tia so no birthday party for you no my birthday my birthday is December 23rd and around

the 21st I go to a friend of mine he owns a pawn shop on Hillsborough and you know him I'm not kind of I go through his pawn shop and this is probably about no no five o'clock

in the afternoon I go over there because I'm getting ready to get this big bracelet and I'm going to get this Batman charm with diamonds and all that on there and he was going to make it for me So I had stopped by there, and we're kicking it. I'm flipping through this book where I'm picking out this bracelet. And this white guy comes in.

You know, I'm all right looking at the book. And he said, hey, hey, look, he's like, oh, I just want to look at some CDs. Okay, so I'm just, he rocked. The pawn shop guy said, okay, go ahead, look at whatever. I'm just looking at the brady. We're looking with, hey, how much do I'm going to call, hey, I'm going to do. So a guy got whatever CDs he wanted, he headed back up there to be cashed out.

He went down in there. I'm still looking. He cashing him out. So the guy, my friend, who owns the pawn shop, he comes down to me. He's like, man, man, that guy just spooked the shit out of me. I'm like, what are you talking about? He goes, um,

he told me to be careful. I'll say be careful. I like, what do you mean? Be careful. He's like, he just told me be careful. I was like shit He just said be careful So be careful So how much they're called

So I'm not really Because I was smoking You know I was not really Paying attention Right You know I was chilling It's getting ready to be my birthday

I'm not So bam I pick out the bracelet I want I leave I come back Um I went to the house

Now Here it is It's my birthday December 23rd that morning, me and my girl, we already said that we were going to go out clear water on a double eagle deep-sea fishing trip for my birthday, salt water. So I say I'm going to drop my daughter off at the daycare, and then we're going to run by McDonald's, grass and to eat, and then we're going to come get all the fishing gear. Not knowing that at this time, the FBI is watching me the whole time, when I came out to take my daughter, to the daycare, there was this big bread van, white bread truck,

parked next to my car. I had a 500 series BMW at the time. And they were parked so close to the driver's door that I couldn't get in. So I'm thinking that it was this, we would have it five rock the lines laid out. I lived next to the office building at the department complex. So that's where most of the people who was doing the work,

that's where they came up to the office area. So I'm thinking it's one of those people, part so close to the BMW that I couldn't get in the door. So I'm carrying my door, and I'm walking all around in the van. And the windows were so tending on there. You couldn't even look in there. Right. So I'm walking on around. Went over there by the pool here.

I'm looking for some guys that was doing some work with there. There was nobody. I was like, man, you might want to cut their hand on and get on them, you know? So what I did was when I told my girl, come on, let's go. We're just going to, I'm just going to clamp on the passenger side. You didn't put her in the chair. I clamped through and got on to the driver's side by going through the passenger side. So as I'm leaving, I'm going to drop her off to the daycare over off of Florida Avenue,

which we made it over there, dropped her off. All this time, the feds are following me. I don't know it. As I'm heading from the daycare, I go to McDonald's. We go to McDonald's, grab some breakfasts, you know, I wanted to eat something before I go on a fishing trip. I proceeded to get on Hillsboro. I'm going back towards my street, which is a Havana or whatever the street apartment was on at the time. I go to make a left, they still follow me.

So I pull up to my apartment, and like I said, I'm right next door to the office. I live on the second floor to the right. When I pull up, I look upstairs, you know, I'm getting ready to get out, but I just have it. I just always used to try to, like, be on point of note. the two around you know I was doing bad things you know I want to know I know there was going to be one day somebody was going to be looking for me so I always kind of be I want to be on point B you know I need some like you said wiggle room I need time to run or whatever I need to do to try to get away for that for that day so I happen to look upstairs and I see these two white guys

on the left side I lived on the right side so I like I don't know what the hell they want They dressed the same. They had on, like, two white t-shirt and some jeans. I thought maybe they were some salespeople or something. So I think the car is still running at this time. I put it in part. I go to open up the driver's door. I turn it off, and before I can get my first foot out of the door,

the squat team has me on the ground. So they, they, that's how I can remember. That's how I can remember. They're that fast. Yeah, I know. And it was like, like, 50. It was like 15 of them, you know, they geared up, masked up, and everything. They're like, all right.

You know, when they got me, they're celebrating. My girl's next to me. She's crying, and they got me on the ground, and they're celebrating. I can hear the guy celebrating, all right, yeah, yeah. They're like, persistent pays. We've been out here since 6 o'clock this morning. You know, and then the guy walks up to me, and he goes, Hey, how are you?

I'm in charge of this right here. I'm Sergeant McElemyer, and, um, how are you? First of all, let me just tell you happy birthday. And, um, yeah, while I got handcuffs, they're all cocky, bro. Swear to God, swear to God. And I had handcuffs on you. Like, first of all, let me just tell you happy birthday. And, um, you know this guy?

You know this guy? I'm like, man, I don't know, I don't know, no guy. You're like, well, oh, we think you do. We heard that, um, you armed in danger. You're a menace of society. I don't know who told you that man y'all got the wrong guy I was like can I talk to my wife

oh you know you can't talk to her she's crying and stuff then I hear him tell them we're gonna meet back up at East Lake Mall you know Tampa Bay Mall remember Tampa Bay Mall was open at that time and that's where they planned the whole thing

and that's where they met up at to talk about what just happened so at that time the feds came they got me rushed me downtown because when you in the federal system

you don't just go to booking, you don't go to jail and stuff like that like a state charge or you get picked up by the city guy and they just take you to Orient Road or just take you to the city jail and you picked up by the feds

they take you downtown you have to go to the FBI office you got to go to the U.S. Marshal's got to take holdover you got to U.S. Marsha's take pictures of you, not only that,

then you have to go in front of the magistrate jail and see if you're going to get a bond or not. So there's a lot of things that take place before you go over to the city jail and be booked in or as charges. So that would happen to me. So now I'm booked in, not really knowing

what I'm facing because not really knowing how I got to this point that that guy told me. You're not even sure what they're arresting you for. Exactly. I didn't know that guy had told him. me about this I didn't know about they found the Rolex and he had the jacket and this is how this thing all came about so um I'm I'm sitting in there because I'm on federal charges they have to ship me over to Morgan Street so I'm sitting in Morgan Street you know I think

my lawyer can't see me and to let me know what I was being charged with and um I was being charge with the armored car at the time. I wasn't being charged with no banks because I never got caught doing any banks. He told on me about the banks, but they didn't put that on me at the time. Right. And it's kind of good for me that it didn't because how it all worked out for me, not having them put that charge of me right then, I was able to group it in my proffer agreement. Now, me, first time being arrested, first time being in jail, never knowing what a

profit agreement is. And how I found out about a proffer agreement is just, it's like my first week in Morgan Street. And I know basic things like, don't let nobody know about your case and don't talk to people

where they try to get on your case and, you know, try to get timed off theirs. So don't talk about your cage. Just, you know, make up something so I had this old man just came up to me someone who I never knew I never talked to I don't I didn't even know the guy was in the same cell it's just an old man just came up to me out of nowhere and he goes hey buddy

I don't know if you did anything else besides whatever you didn't hear on out down the street that didn't get caught for but if you did you need to ask your lawyer about a proffer agreement so I was like I'm I still really didn't talk to the guy i was like okay so i'm like damn well i did something i better call my lawyer so i call my lawyer and i go um i had a lawyer that was presented to me by the state but he was a private lawyer for the feds and the feds you don't just get public defenders you get private attorneys that have their own office but they work for the state yeah there's a federal government federal public

defender's office but they only have so many right so what happens is that if they're full well then the court will actually appoint a private lawyer and that's what happened to me and mine was out of Sarasota Bradenton and I call him up I go hey check this out some old man just came up to me and he was asking me about a proper agreement if I know anything if I have you know did anything that um before i know anything about some crimes that was committed and no one never got called for it i was like what's a proper agreement he's like oh a proper agreement is you know first you have to go over to the state prosecutor and and present to them or whatever

information that you might have and and they make the last decision if they want to give you a proffer if they think whatever you got it isn't interesting i said um what if i knew about a guy that robbed 10 banks. He's like if you know about a guy that robbed 10 banks, you're going home tomorrow. I was like, I didn't want to tell him me just in case it didn't work out in my favor. I just said I knew about a guy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're never going home tomorrow. No. Unless you know where there's a terrorist or something yeah, something imminent. Exactly. So he went over and talked to the state prosecutor and federal prosecutor. Yeah, yeah, exactly. My bad. He talked to the

federal prosecutor and let him know that I knew about some banks that had been robbed that the case haven't been solved and if he was willing to do a proffer with me. He came back over and talked to me and he was like, I'm not going to make you any promises but if the people who I sent over to talk to you, if it's worth being able to do something, then I will. saying the good thing about a proffer it's only about things that I've done you don't got to tell anybody

it's things that you've done and another thing about a proffer is that it has to be everything that you've done. If you give them any room at all to yank the proffer away from you like I mean sure they knew about everything told us this but we just found out once we looked into it

we found out this you never mentioned this so we're not going to do any credit like nothing exactly and they still know about what you told and they can still use that against you so I made sure that and plus this was an opportunity and a chance for me to get a chance you walk out of prison

not being like I can never ever be charged in the middle district of Florida with anything I've ever done that sounded good at the time yeah so um what were you looking at anyway I think my PSI came back to like

27 years 27 years. Oh, I know, I've got it. And I was able to knock 17 off. Right. So anyway, so, okay, so after that, one morning, I'm in Morton Street. I'm sitting there, and they say,

hey, Robert, you got to go to medical. You got to go to medical. Okay, hey, I'm ready. I'm getting ready. I'm getting ready. go to medical and I'm thinking I'm going to medical but I wasn't going to medical they took me down to the chapel and when I got down to the chapel there was two FBI agents waiting to talk to me okay yeah they don't want to let the other

inmates know that you're having a discussion with the FBI is that they're going to say oh he's fucking snitching he's this exactly exactly so it's not in their best interest that it's for your safety too right well that yeah exactly so we're going to chapel they introduced me to them. I introduce me who I am so we go in and I started out with the very first one and that was the one I told you the very first one

that was in Hills for Nevada and had to be buzzed in and everything I told them exactly how I happened what I did I think that day right there talking with them I got to like three of them the very next day they were back now there were

two different FBI there were two different ages, age groups. The older gentleman, he had to be around, like, maybe I'll say he was like 65, 60-something years old. He was older. And the younger guy, he had to be like maybe 30, 32. The next day, when they came and pulled me out to come up to the chapel, they were standing in front of the chapel door waiting for me. The officer was walking me down in the hallway. I get there, and this is the first thing that happened.

when I walked down and I you know saying good morning to him the younger FBI agents he was like hey man

did you ever get a chance to see the movie did you get to see the video of you robbing the bank I say no no sir he's like man fuck man why didn't you play basketball

and football he's like man soon as you open up the door the first step you're over the counter you're over the counter man you're fucking man you're great man

you're not playing some type of sport and I'm sitting there thinking like FBI guy is talking to me like he's a fan something I've just done and he's like telling me how excited he was from watching

me robbed his bank and being able to come back and talk to me about what he just seen and it was just crazy why the older guy was standing behind him with his hand in his pocket he was just standing there just letting them yeah but you got to understand too these guys by the time they talk to you they've

been trying to solve this crime too you're saying they've they've imagine how much time they've spent trying to find this and then to have the guy like they've spent hours and hours and hours driving around and just thinking about you and who you are and looking for you so they're super curious about you so when they get to talk to you they already have this fantasy of who you are they're already like they're thinking you're this person and you find out no he's this is who he is and right this is what happened and it's and that was another and you're saving him a ton of time and that was

another thing. That was another thing because like after every bank that I robbed I used to go to Disney, go down to Orlando just to get away from Tampa because I was like emotionally shook up. I was so much rush was going on. So anxiety

anxiety and not knowing if I made a mistake or something that they might be knocking on my door so I get the hell away so I try to put some miles in between until everything comes down. I stay there for the weekend But every morning I used to get a paper And exactly what you were saying

They always used to say, man, we can't get it We can't wait to get a chance to speak with this guy We cannot wait to get a chance to speak with this guy And then they were like having news People asking questions like what do you think he And they were thinking that I got it from this movie That one movie with the surfers Oh yeah, yeah point break

Right they were thinking I was getting it from that movie things from that movie and um i had to watch that movie before were you watching were you wearing a mask always the first mask that we wore was the guy did this right here oh did you uh nixon mask was okay that's the connection that's the connection between the movie you ever seen point great you've seen point break that was one of the first mask oh i mean i was i was just point break they wear or they all wear they all wear president's masks right and that were because um and they jump on the counter they immediately run they run they jump up yeah yeah and they're wearing the outfits the whole thing yeah yeah they did but I didn't I I really didn't

get ideas from them right I had seen the movies but I just knew that in order for me to pull this all these are the things that I had to do you know know um the two car things i mean a lot of things that i did i i can't really say that i got it from a movie it was just like common sense with me yeah i don't think i'm going down dail mabry when really i'm you know i'm going south on down mabry when i'm really going the switch of the cars the switch of the cars i've seen bank robbery stay in the same car try to get to the house in the same car yeah i would never try to do that i wrote a story about i got you know rob the place see that's not see see that's what some

somebody who like not so not impatient but they just wanted to rob the bank they didn't really have a plan they just the money was more important than getting away with it right you feel to me

the money wasn't more important than me coming back home right that was more important to me so I'm going to make sure I'm not worried about when I get in there about exactly how much money I get out there I'm worried about I go about my plan and I'm able to walk out of them doors without having to have a shootout or being locked up or shot or walking out of the bank

with a million dollars and getting caught two hours later is nothing right and same thing when I was in prison you can sit up here and tell me about all the planes and Lamborghinis you got but you're able to spend the same $60 a week as me yeah yeah I was used to say that you say prison is a great equalizer exactly you're multi-millionaire exactly you were born the free raising the projects so I you get a bunk you're wearing greens you're wearing greens we're the same yeah we're the same so i used to read the metro after i did each one just to get an idea if what i did made the paper and they always made the paper and i always try to see if anything was left or

if they spit out some information it might be good for me to hear what they had to say oh we um got a tire track or something whatever i just wanted to read what it what they had to say about this. What happened with, I'm sorry, what happened with the, um, the armored car one that? Like, you, you, you, you guys also hit an armored car. So the armored car was, the armor car was, like, it was in between my six and seventh bank, like, and there was just something that these set of guys had already had this armored car set up to rob because one of the brothers had worked on the armor car. Right. And he wasn't no longer working on the armor car, so he knew the layout and what's expected and things of that.

They never knew about me. These guys never knew about me. My link with them was through my brother-in-law because my brother-in-law, as he says, I was the only crazy person he could think that might be able to pull it off because he knew about what I did. So one day I'm sitting at the house. He's like, hey, man, I got it. I might have something for you. I said, okay, what's that?

Like, I know these guys who, you know, want to do this job. I said, all right, man, well, yeah, I meet you at your house, so I'm talking person. So I go to his house and he come to my house or whatever the case was. And we talk about these two guys, two brothers, one of them used to work for the honor car. I think it was Wells Fargo. Yeah, I think it was Wells Fargo. And he's like, man, the guy working on the truck, he knows it's going to be easy, man. It's going to be like $200,000, $300,000, you know, real quick.

They want to know if you can be able to pull it off. I say, shit, I need to go see what it looked like. First, show me the route. Show me where the truck at. Show me where it's going to go down. So they came and picked me out. They took me over to St. Pete. It was the money store.

The money store was an old bank in St. Pete that closed down, and they changed it to the money store strictly for all the armored cars to come, pick money up from there to take the banks in stores. Right. So this old bank, they changed it over, converted over to the money stores just for armored cars to come pick up money. I think they might have brought money there too. Yeah, they're in and out just for armored cars. He knew about it because that was his route.

He used to go there to pick up money and deliver to banks and grocery stores or whatever the case may be. So they came and showed it to me. We set outside downtown St. Pete. I can't remember exactly what street it was. but it was downtown right off the interstate somewhere and we sat over in a parking area parking spot while we watched the armored car pull up the guy get out open up both doors go inside the money stores the money stores had like double doors too because they roll out like um laundry bins full of money and um we sitting there we waiting we waiting he finally comes out re-opened up the doors

to the um to the armored car and he just started throwing money in the back of the truck i'm like yeah we can do that yeah so i think i waited like two or three days we geared up got all the stuff two cars and everything we pull up we in the minivan it's me he's the driver the guy who used to be the driver for the west fargo me and his brother with it too Goodman. Inside the armored car, you have the driver and the messenger. The messenger is the guy who grabs the money out of the and puts it in the back of the armored car. So as soon as the armored car pulls up, we're sitting over in the parking spot. I say, wait, just wait until he get out and then we'll ease over there. So as soon as the messenger got out, he started to open up the back doors. No, no, no, we waited. We waited for him to come in to come out with the money. He started, I guess he unlocked the back door to get it ready. Went over to these set of doors here of the building, locked on it or whatever.

They opened the doors. He went in there. He was in there approximately a minute or so. When he started coming out with the laundry bin, that's when I told him, that's right. So we started easing up there. We pull right around and pull right along the side of the armored car. I'm the first thing coming out.

I had a 44 Desert Eagle. When I came out with a gun like this, the messenger seen me. he dropped everything and ran to the front of the truck so I ran to the back of the truck looked down the truck to see where he went he was stooped down by the front

tire on the driver's side I came back to start getting the money to throw into the minivan my second guy went over to keep an eye on him to see what the messenger was doing when I went down to grab the first bag of money to throw into the minivan that's when gunfire

the guy messenger started shooting at my guy he started started finding him I grabbed the money that money was like heavy really heavy it was like um 80 pounds to try to get with gloves on and it's shrink wrap with plastic so every time I go to pick up the money it slips out of my hand I cannot get it out of it I cannot get the money out of this bin because it's this big shrink money is heavy right when it's that much so then at that time the driver started shooting at me

I'm standing from here to where my daughter is. The driver is shooting at me through a... 15 feet away, he's shooting at you. He's shooting at me. I'm not like, it's just going so fast, so I grabbed the 44, and when I pointed the 44, it's already caught back, and when I pulled the trigger, it just went off, and it just went, boom, boom, boom, boom,

I couldn't control it with one hand. No one can control the 44 or one hand. Right. unless you like the hawk or something but it just went crazy boom boom boom boom I drop it I try to get the money I seen the minivan leaving

his brother ran jumped in the minivan I seen him trying to leave I turn around I'm running I jumps in the minivan they shoot out all the windows in the minivan his brother gets shot in the back of the head I see blood coming out of the back

his head because he has on a white bulletproof vest I have on a black bulletproof vest I see you're a red line going into the vest. We make it down to where we have the second vehicle park by the interstate downtown St. Pete, jump back in it, get on the interstate, come back across town. And so no money and somebody gets shot in the head. Exactly.

But was he out or just like he was okay? He was okay. He had to go through the glass. Right. So slowed it down. It just grazed them. Okay. I was going to say, and we're talking about a nine millimeter.

I'm not saying it didn't hurt, but I'm saying it didn't penetrate. It grades them. So as soon as we get back to the second vehicle, they go over with me in the second vehicle. They jump in their own personal car because he didn't know how serious condition his brother was in. So his aunt is a nurse in Orlando. So he's like, man, I'm going to rush my brother down here, Orlando. My aunt's a nurse and I'm going to get her to take care of woo-woo.

They did that. I come back home. I'm going through the process of everything that just took place and how did this happen. and this that and the other that night I get a knock at the door it's by Hillsboro County Sheriff's office and if I'm a domestic violence chart that was dropped against me but I guess the state picked it up or whatever and it still had a warrant out with me I'm thinking it was for the other so the guy was like no no and my girl like what do you what do you want him for she's like the officer

was like um uh he has a warrant out for his arrest for uh domestic violence charge she like no i drop that charge no no no no she started crying and everything but they went with it they arrested me that night that night because of me robbing or attempted robber a robbery of the armored car when i fell asleep everything that drilling everything that happened earlier that day was playing in my head in my dream and in my dream i kept hearing like a uh uh uh uh uh pz in my dream I was like what is that noise I'm dreaming about the whole shit that took place and I'm like I can just keep hearing these and I come up I wake up in the middle of the night I'm like I'm breathing I'm in jail I'm in jail I just attempted I had a shootout downtown St. Pete I dropped the gun now I'm having this nightmare about I hear this noise that I couldn't make out what the hell it was. So I said, you know what?

I'm gonna go back to this dream. I'm gonna slow this dream down. I'm gonna find out, I'm gonna see what the hell, what the noise, I wanna see what it was. Failed by the sleep. I'm in the dream. I'm in the dream. I catch back up.

I slow down. We shooting and I slow it down and I slow it down and I slow it down and I can see. it was bullets now check it I think I'm bullshit if somebody's shooting at you from rat there

and I'm right here and you go to the range all the time and you don't hit me and I go to sleep and I have this dream that is something passing quickly by me but I can't and it was bullets and they didn't touch me, not one bullet.

Now, the bullet that did get me is when I turned around to run, to jump in the minivan, they started blasting the minivan up. One of the guards shot the ground, and they ricocheted off the ground and went into the hill of my foot. And right now in this shoe right here, in the back of the hill of my foot, I have a little round circle that's healed up now. But on this hill right here, it's smooth. But on here, you'll see a little shoe.

circle with a little indention where a piece of shrapnel went in the hill of my foot when i got to jail that night that's when i found out when i had to take my shoe and socks off no no no i found that at home i had already to yeah i found that home when i got home i had to take my shoe off i didn't even notice that there was a little hole in the back of the hill of the shoe but when i took my sock off there was blood all there and i looked at the back of my hill and there was a little hole where a little Shrapnel had went in the hill of my feet I don't I don't remember pulling it out and nothing I don't know if it just ricocheted and went in and out or however it's done but that's the only thing that happened to me so your so let's go back your PSI is supposed to

your your PSI says 27 years right you get 17 knocked off right so what happened was this is how that happened to to finish up this right here I say I can't do 27 years right I can't do 27 years I'm kind of added up I think at the time I was like, okay, 30, 28, or whatever it was, I was not being able to do 27 years because I would have got out of like to be 60 or something like that.

So I remember this guy saying, in everyone's case, there's something wrong. You can't leave it up to your lawyer to do it. It's got to be on you. There's something the judge did, your lawyer, the prosecutor, the arresting cop, the detective, the paperwork, something somewhere is wrong.

So I say, okay, all right, this is what, okay, man, 27 years. I got my PSI, talking about this right here. They're trying to make me a violent habitual offender. Right. I was like, man, what the hell is a violent habitual offender? I say, okay, I'm signing up for the lie law verb. I wrote down, signed up for the lie law. So did you already get, you just have the PSI?

I didn't get sentenced yet. Okay, okay. I just got the PSI that just delivered it to me. So I say, you know what? I'm going to the law library. I go to the law library. I look up, first thing, I want to know what a violent habitual offender is because that's what's giving me all this time, all these extra months.

So I want to see what that is. And they say, a violent habitual offender is a person who has two past convictions of violence or two of drug or one of them. each that makes you a violent habitual offender i say okay okay all right um well what i'm being charged with so i look at my charges i have two charges before the charge that i'm on right and one charge after it right but the definition for violent habitual offender means they have to happen before yeah yeah so and and the word was consequent I don't know, what the hell consequent?

Right, and that's before. So I look at my charges, and what it is, they try to make me a violent, habitual sin. I have to pass conviction of violence, none of drugs, but one was before the charge and one was after the charge. And you're trying to say, damn, how was one before and one was after? because I had already had one before I got charged with a charge that they're holding me on

I bonded out and got another charm and I pled to that charm right but I'm still being held on that so one was before and one was after they both had to be before in order for them to make me a violent habitual offense right so I call my lawyer up I say uh-uh they can't do that I'm saying to myself I rip out the page in the law library that says that and I ripped out the definition

but by the bitch you offending I brought it back to myself I called my lawyer I said hey how are you I think you need to get here because I think my PSI might be wrong you they're trying to meet me he's like okay Robert I'll be right there tomorrow so when I came I presented him with the information that I had I showed it to him he looked at it he looked at my PSI he looked at the dates he's like man I think We got something here. He's like, you're right. We got something here.

I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got something. I said, so what, what are you going to do? He's like, well, I'm going to get to me. I'm going to take it with him. And one week's time, they sent me amended PSI with 17 years knocked off my sentence. Nice. Just because of that one thing that I did myself. Yeah.

No, you can't. I could have been lazy. I could have depended on my lawyer. I could have just laid down saying, no, man. You can't rely on your lawyer. Like, everybody thinks, you know, anybody who's, people that have never been through the system always think oh well you get a lawyer

like all lawyers are the same they're not all the same they're not all working for you they're not they're not always interested in you or you know they're not they don't always have your interest you know in mind you have to understand that the law work it's a lot of work probably so they're trying

to limit limit their the ability to have a lot of case lows right oh it's it's ridiculous I'm not saying it's a ton of work you might not even get an hour worth of their time on your case, man, because of a simple fact they just have so many people pulling them Yeah, they're overloaded. My attorney,

I just knew he wasn't he wasn't able to do the job with me because I didn't tell the first few minutes. They don't give them anything. He didn't present me anything or he didn't sound like, well, hey, you know what? I'm going to find out this right here. So I say, you know, I remember that guy saying

in everyone's case, there's something wrong so I'm going to start. I can't do this time. I got to just see what's wrong in my case. And I thought, and it's probably was other things that was wrong in my case. Right. But I just found that one thing at that time right there, and that was enough to knock 17 years off my sentence.

So you get 10 years, you did 8.5, how much halfway house? None. No halfway house? None, because I had people who was, I had a house to come to, and I did no halfway house. I did three years supervised release for the feds and 10 years for the state. Yeah, all right. Okay.

Yeah, it's, yeah. 10 years in federal prison. and three years and three years pay three years probation okay you don't get you've got a year and a half off though right for a good time for the oh yeah yeah yeah because yeah you you didn't do 10 years in prison no no no no right because um what we at um 80 what was 85 yeah yeah 80 yeah 85 they so i got my little good time because it was 10 and I did eight on it eight on it so um and then I got out with with, then I, well, then I got out with, um, 36-month Supervirus League.

I'm thinking I'm going home, but I had a concurrent, I had a concurrent sentence with the state ran with my fed and my state time, like, overlap. It was a little bit more so Florida was waiting for me. They picked me up from Atlanta because I did all my time in, and, um, Atlanta federal prison because I had to, I escaped from Orient Road one time. So I had to be on a train. Right. A moving train, jumped on, a moving train.

I escaped from booking. So I have to be in a maximum security, and we didn't have, we only had a medium and low here. Yeah. Was it any our federal prison here, Coleman. Coleman. Coleman only had a medium and a low, and they were building the max. Yeah, yeah. The max is built now, but I was finishing up my time in Atlanta when the max,

finally got finished Florida waited for me I came here I went to a homes correctional I did two years in the state and got out from the state with a 10-year probation period time and I just completed it like a year ago August 28th all right let's let's end it there if you like the video hit the like button share the video subscribe to the channel leave a comment for the algorithm and I'll see you.