Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Soccer Mom Serves 10+ Years in Jail | Marci Simmons

Episode Date: August 20, 2023

Soccer Mom Serves 10+ Years in Jail | Marci Simmons

Like I said, I would kind of was intrigued by them. They had lots of money, especially the big boss. I mean, they're just living these lives that I had never seen, flying in on private jets, that kind of thing. And I really think that they recruited me because they felt like it wouldn't be a moral issue for me. I would be like, man, it's not like there wasn't food on the table. It's not like my power was being cut off. It was going on vacations and staying in these hotels that I would have never.

ever been able to afford and telling my husband that it's my boss's account, that they hold that sweet. Like, they don't hold a suite. A company doesn't hold a suite. I wouldn't have ever said that I was addicted to money or addicted to criminal activity. But once I was in it, I became addicted. You know, it's definitely, definitely turned into an addiction. And with that, like any other addiction, you kind of, you're having to lie and you're having to hide it and you're pushing people that you love, further away. The first offer he brought to me and asked me to sign, encouraged me to sign was for a 40-year sentence, 4-0. Hey, this is Matt Cox, and I'm here with Marcy Simmons. She did, I want to say 10 years in prison.

I'm probably off for embezzlement, and she's got a super, um, interesting TikTok account and she's got just started a YouTube channel and she does shorts and TikToks. And so check this out. Where were you born? So I was born in Colorado and my parents moved me down here when I was two. I still, I claim that I'm a Texan. Right. So I live in Texas and and have been here my whole life. So right. Never basically normal childhood. Went to high school, no problems. Yeah, very much like a lower middle class family and played sports as a kid. My parents, my dad's a musician.

My parents are a bit hippie-ish, you know, and I kind of grew up to love everybody and have an open mind, but I still kind of grew up in this little bubble. So, yes, love everybody and yes, have an open mind. Yes, think for yourself and live and let live, but I'm still just protected from, I did not grow up in the diverse neighborhood. I was not exposed to anybody that lived in poverty or grew up in poverty. And so, yeah, I hit culture shot big time when I got incarcerated. Okay. So, okay, so, but then you went to work.

you went to work for, so you, do you go to school, college? So I went to some college, but I ended up having too many babies. And I have one freshman year under my belt at street college. I did do college while I was incarcerated. But yeah, I ended up being a pretty young mother. And so I was a stay-at-home mom for a while. And the kids got older and I started working in human resources. without a degree.

And that was around 2004. And I ended up working for a manufacturing plant for a couple of entrepreneurs. So these guys were just kind of big money guys that would buy companies out and undersell their competition so that their competition would then buy the company from them. And that's how they turned their profit. they didn't turn their profit from actually making goods. So I ended up kind of getting connected with these guys.

I had a pretty good job. I felt like I kind of looking back, I was like, man, I had it pretty easy because then I had a couple more kids during that time. And they were so lenient with me being a working mom. They were lenient with if the baby had to come sometimes, that was okay. Like it was pretty chill for a while. until it wasn't right what and and so what they were they were you know we talked about before like they were kind of cooking the books themselves or asking you to help them kind

of shift money around to make it look like they had more money in reserves and or were making more money or buying product not spending as much on on the materials and to make them look like they were you know doing really well when actually they were breaking even or losing money is that yeah that's spot on that's exactly what was happening and i was kind of participating in that and as i'm participating in that i'm losing respect for them i i'm seeing uh i kind of i'm starting to feel like they're pretty shiasty in the way that they make money and it just it yeah i felt like I was doing a lot more for what I made, you know, and so that's what was kind of going on at work. Well, I think, I think that, you know, like just the operation that you explain what their, their business strategy is to go into an industry that's an already existing industry and then undercut their competition not to provide a better product or to provide a better product or to buy.

I provide a more economic product, but simply to squeeze the other companies so badly that they eventually have to buy them out or maybe just bankrupt them. And then, of course, they can double their, you know, raise all their prices and double their profit margin if they could just outlast the other guy. Like, you know, in some ways I get it like undercutting your competition by, you know, by providing maybe a, well, maybe if you just did it. it better. If you were just a better manufacturer, you're just better at it. But if that's your simply your business model is I'm going to create such a problem for these guys, I'll force them to buy us out. That seems slightly, I like it. I'm not saying I don't like it, but it says seems slightly underhanded. But, you know, so, so I mean, I can, I can kind of get that where you're like, okay, this isn't quite what I thought it was. Like, you guys are a little, little shiasty here.

so what were the kinds of things you were doing you had said like you were just shifting money around to show basically to show that there was more money on hand right they want to show the potential buyer that they're they don't want to show that they're making this huge loss right so i'm kind of moving money around at specific times to make the books look and even labeling transactions incorrectly you know i'm I'm moving money around from an account that's like one of the boss's accounts, his personal account and putting it in as an account's receivable and not a, we're floating the company with our own personal funds. And so, yeah. So what happened? How did that evolve? Like, you know, how did that evolve into you, you know,

you basically starting to embezzle money? Yeah. So there was like some behind the scenes on the home front things going on that I think contributed to maybe subconsciously contributed to. So I had three middle school kids from my first husband. And he, I stayed at home the whole time married to him. And while he built himself up education career. And he was making really good money. He had gotten a really good job. He had, they had just bought a new home like a half a million dollar home and my kids are coming back from coming home from his house and they've been spoiled and monies everywhere. That's just and here I am in a new marriage where my husband's just now building his business and I have new babies and we are like we're making it. Our bills are paid, but I don't have money to get the kids. you know, everything that their little heart desires like they were getting at their dad. So that was kind of subconscious. And then I'm there at work and I'm kind of losing respect more and more every day for the company, for my bosses. And I'm seeing how they're floating this

money around. And I thought, gosh, I could float money around too for my benefit. And it was, you know, looking back, I wish, I don't wish, but oftentimes while I was incarcerated, I would be like, man, it's not like there wasn't food on the table. It's not like my power was being cut off. It was, it was literally just I saw something and I felt like I was pretty smart going about it. So it was a little bit of an ego thing also. It was just really stupid. So I started opening a campaign. I opened a few business accounts from businesses that had been closed, and that's like public knowledge. I use their tax ID numbers, and I started exactly how they were floating funds around. I started floating funds around also and mislabeling those transactions to make it look like it was like an accounts payable type situation.

And I started piding money to and from those fake accounts. So they've got, they've got your you're human resources and they've got you doing their books yes yeah it was it's kind of a small it was kind of a smaller operation so it isn't it they only employ like 50 employees and um it was just a handful of us that kind of did everything and so uh when it when they started doing i really feel like when they started doing kind of shy steed they felt comfortable with me um i was very loyal to them. Like I said, I

would kind of was intrigued by them. They had lots of money, especially the big boss. I mean, they're just living these lives that I had never seen, flying in on private jets,

that kind of thing. And I really think that they recruited me because they felt like I, sadly, that it wouldn't be a moral issue for me. He's been known to cure insecurity just with his laugh. His organ donation

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You don't give all that impression to me, but I understand. Or I was going to say, or maybe just that, hey, this is a, this is a person that's got multiple children. She's, you know, a small town girl. She's going to be impressed with us. And this is somebody that I think we can manipulate, somebody that's, you know, someone that, you know, we build up some loyalty with her. And I think she'll work with us. So, and I think you, you get that feel. I know as a mortgage broker, when I was asking people to do things that,

they shouldn't have done, I could always kind of tell this is somebody that I can I can work with. And I usually know that right away, right away. And so, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't hard for me to tell. I think, you know, I think a fisherman knows a fisherman, you know, like they kind of think, you know, and, you know, you kind of tell when somebody's in a desperate spot. Like I've had people that were in desperate spots and thought, yeah, I can get him to do it. Why? Well, because if we yanked the account from him, he loses $7,000 a month or $3,000 a month. And he needs that. I know he needs that because he's building a new house. Or I know he needs that because he was telling me about that, you know, so that's going to hurt. Or he asked me the other day if I could give him more work.

So if I yanked the little bit of work he is getting. So, you know, I think you start to feel that ability to, you know, who's able to be manipulated. So, you know, I don't know. Anyway, so well, so how long did this take place over what period of time? So it was around 2007. I started skimming money a little bit here and there. And I continued on for three and a half years until I got caught? I mean, did it ever come up? Well, we were audited. You know, we had regular audits by annual audits and this sounds so horrible, but it's a huge like uplift to your ego when you know you're doing something well enough that it gets through an audit. And it and it becomes a little, it was a high like the first audit i was panicked beforehand i was panicked during but i'm trying to

play cool because i'm also helping give information and you know send paperwork and um but at the end it was such a high when it was over and nothing had got caught i mean that was that was just part of it right like it's a high to to get this money it's to make a transaction and then know that money is yours that's it that's a huge high to have a pile of cash in your hand your ego just grows and grows and you feel like you become emboldened yes yes that's exactly right um you take higher risks you you know do even more and more and so yeah it never came up i was never questioned during that time and nobody ever said hey where did this go hey what was this every now and then with anything, they would be, you know, hey, what's this?

And, you know, oh, that's a box order. We ordered boxes. It was no, nobody looked into it. We need boxes. Everybody needs boxes. We're making, factor. So, yeah, I was going to say, I, you know, there was a scam the other day that I read about. This guy had made like over a million dollars just by billing coming up.

with invoices and billing random companies like like amazon google like large massive companies he would send in an invoice and if they and they would just sometimes they would pay them you know they'd get them and they pay sometimes they'd call and he'd say oh that was a mistake yeah i don't know what that was for yeah i'm okay and then sometimes they would just pay them you know a couple hundred here 200 here 300 here 50 bucks here like and i remember looking back when i was running my company i only had like 12 guys working for me. But I was paying little bills all the time, $80 to some company that provides, you know, toner or something for a computer or just random little bills that we would get. And I would just

pay them. And listen, half the time I was like, I don't even know what this is for. Like, how we buy a lot of toner from different companies? Like, that's crazy. You know, I just pay it. It's only $80. You just pay it and keep going. Like it's $80. wasn't worth looking into. So I could see not looking into, I mean, you weren't, it's not like you were taking $10,000, right? No, not at a time, not at all. But I mean, over time, it grew to that.

But no, these are smaller transactions. When they finally told you the number, what was it? So the final number that I was charged with was $367,000. when you did you think did you realize it was that large not at all not at all and and let me say i was kiding money so i'm moving like i'm having moving money back and forth and so that 367000 i actually only probably touched half of it because may maybe a little more than half but not much more um because they're not going to they're not going to say oh well we're crediting this because this came from that fraudulent account back into this account.

They're not going to say that. So I didn't get like credit for that, which would have made a difference in Texas for me. If they had credit, if they had shown the actual number that I actually had my hands on that money, it would have made the difference between a first degree felony and a second degree felony, which is huge.

But you didn't know it at the time. I didn't. I was so naive to the legal system, Matthew. I'm I handled it all completely wrong um you know I talked to detectives without an attorney uh I knew I was guilty I wasn't trying to I wasn't trying to claim innocence um yeah so many mistakes happened there so what what happened like I mean this one day you walk in and there were a couple of detectives standing there asking to ask questions or what how did it did you have a warning? Did they start asking questions? And a week later, you were talking to a tech?

Or like, how did it, how did it catch up with you? So I'm moving money back and forth. And at that time, I was all through Bank of America. And for them, if an account is stagnant, then it will throw up a flag. Like if it, if I had stopped and they had seen, since I'm cutting money back and forth, if they had seen that this check couldn't be cleared easily, that might throw up a flag to have a banker look at the account. And so I kept money moving. Well, there was this ice storm. I lived in podunk, small town, Texas. I had, it was dial up back then. It was, you know, and there was this ice storm that I couldn't get online from home. And everything was closed. Matthew, I don't even know where you're at, but in Texas, when it

ices or snows, the whole state shuts down. We don't know how to drive in it. We don't know how to handle it. Schools are closed. Businesses are closed. Right. And so that's the situation. I know I need to get somewhere where I can get internet so I can move this money. My husband at the time knew nothing of what was happening. So he hadn't a clue. He, yeah. So I could couldn't just say, hey, this is fixing to happen if I don't get to town, you know, and he was not having it. I could not convince him that I needed to go into the office. I could not convince. I mean, I had a

truck. I'm like, I'm just going to put it in four-wheel drive. I'm just going to inch in there, even if it takes me an hour and a half to get to work. And he's, he wasn't having it. And I was not bold enough to say, here's the situation, you know. And so, listen, Brad. Right. Right. Listen. And so I stayed and that threw up a red flag for the bank. They started looking at things. They called my boss. That was on a Friday morning by end of business Friday. They had looked at the account. And I had a phone call that weekend from my boss saying, hey, the big wigs are coming into town Monday morning for a meeting. But I already knew. Every instinct of my body knew why they were coming to town. I knew what was happening. And I walked right into it. I prepared mentally prepared myself

to go into work that Monday morning. And I walk in. I walk into my office and my big boss is sitting at my desk in my chair. So yeah, it was serious. He's sitting there. And, you know, my heart, even though you kind of know, like you have that gut feeling, that it's fixing to go down, you still have that like sliver of hope that maybe, maybe everything's fine. Maybe I've still made it by. But when I saw him sitting in my chair and I'm just like, my heart just hit my stomach. Seriously, I thought, well, here, here it goes. And he says, have a seat. And I sit down and I'm at the desk across from him. And he's got some papers and he opens up his folder to show the papers and it's it's transactions it's bank transactions and he's

like what's what's going on here and i just said i don't know what you want me to say you know you already know what's going on and i've been doing it and i don't know to say about it you know what could i say uh in that moment as as ugly as as it is the feeling to get caught doing anything, I mean anything, as ugly as that feeling is and as ugly as the feeling of the fear of the unknown about what's going to come from this, there was also in that mix of emotions was some relief because honestly, nobody knew about what I had been doing. And I mean nobody. I had not shared that with anybody. And so you can imagine to cover that income, how many lies, I was having to tell, like, you know, I'm telling my parents, oh, I got a big bonus at work.

I'm telling, like, I'm taking my mom and my grandmother to these huge spa trips saying, oh, we got a new client at work. And he sent this over. My boss is letting us use it. I'm staying in these going on vacations and staying in these hotels that I would have never been able to afford and telling my husband that it's my boss's account, that they hold that sweet. like they don't hold a suite. A company doesn't hold a sweet, you know? And I'm just telling him all these outlandish things, which knowing my employers don't sound that outlandish,

but in our lives of lower middle class America, you know, they are. And so anyways, just all of those lies, man, that eats your soul. That eats your soul. And it's like that I wouldn't have ever said that I was addicted to money. or addicted to criminal activity. But once I was in it, I became addicted. You know, it's definitely, definitely turned into an addiction. And with that, like any other addiction, you kind of,

you're having to lie and you're having to hide it and you're pushing people that you love further away because of that. And there was definitely a sense of relief when all that came to an end when I knew, well, it's up. I talked to a guy a couple days ago that told me that his job, when he started basically he was stealing from his job, he had like a scheme and he said the moment I started it and got away with it, he said my mundane job that was a drag to go into work became super interesting. He's like, I suddenly really started liking my job.

I love my job. And I was stealing $500 to $1,000 a day. He's like, it was great. He's like, and it was exciting. Suddenly it was exciting. I was doing paperwork. He said, suddenly paperwork got to be exciting. And I was like, I mean, I hear you.

I know what you're saying. Yeah. That's it. When you're going to work and you're making, and I don't even remember the exact number, but it was decent money for someone with no college degree in a very small. town. But once I started doing all the shenanigans for them, I didn't feel like it was decent money anymore. Now, my value of money has changed because I'm watching how much money they're making, being a little bit shiasty. But once I start these transactions and I

start getting more money, my mind goes to, oh, okay, I made this much an hour today. and all of a sudden I've convinced myself in my own mind that I'm far more successful than I actually am. You know, it's a fraud, it's fake, it's not real, but I have convinced myself. You know, I had to lie to myself to keep it up, but that I'm like, well, I did this. Oh, I don't want to go to work today, but I make this.

And so, yes, all of a sudden I had a big appreciation for my job that I had kind of lost. um so so your boss does he say look we're going to call the authorities he's after you talk to him they call the what do they say we're going to have a meeting me and jimmy and tom are going to go in the conference room and talk about this or you know we've we're calling the you know what do they say so um i i i did not know um but apparently the detectives were already there um they were either already there or they were either already there or they had arrived just moments after me because I was only in the office with him for maybe three to four

minutes and the detectives walked in the office to detectives. And I had not, I didn't have an arrest warrant at that point. I'm not so sure that I wasn't recorded in that room with him. That never came up because I didn't go to trial and and I never started saying I didn't do it. So, But it seems logical because the time that they came in was, you know, me just saying what it was. And they just asked me, hey, we need you to come with us. We have some questions for you. And I will tell anybody that has, don't be naive like me. And I know y'all have watched enough whatever law in order to know you need to get a freaking attorney.

whether you're innocent, whether you're guilty, and you know you're guilty and you're going to say you're guilty, you need that lawyer from the beginning because I screwed myself by not doing that. I went with those guys. It was the typical little detective room like you see on TV. And I remember sitting in that room thinking, holy shit, what have I gotten myself into? Like all of a sudden, the reality just came crashing down on me. I'd been living in this little fantasy world where I have all this extra money. I'm not getting caught and life is just peachy and rosy as far as finances go. My spirit was not peachy, you know, but it just kind of crashed down. And I did it all without an attorney. Listen, I would have walked in that room and when he said, you know, what is this? I'd have said, what are you talking about? What is this? Those are those accounts you told me to open and shift that money around like you've been doing

with all these other accounts. You know what it is. What are you asking me that for? I'm just doing what you told me to do. You and Bob and Jimmy, I don't know what you guys. What are we doing here? And then when the detective walked in and said, hey, we're here to talk to you.

I'd say, well, listen, I'm sure you are. You probably know what my boss has been doing. Yes. Because I don't know anything about this. I'm just a cog in the wheel. But I'm here to talk to you guys. Glad you came in. Yes.

I'm ready to tell you all about what these guys are doing. These sheisters. I wouldn't, yeah, but you're a much quicker thinker than I am. And I didn't learn to think that quickly with anything until prison life did that to me. But yeah, there's so many, I didn't even, it never even occurred to me to even speak on anything they were doing until I got out of prison and I start making videos and I'm talking, people are asking me about my crime. They're asking me about this and that. And I'm just telling my story and people are like, well, did your bosses get in trouble? And I'm like, oh, shit, no, but maybe they should have, you know, and it didn't even, honestly, didn't even occur to me.

I had some animosity towards them just because I knew that they were so shy, Steve, but not necessarily because I just never put any blame on them for my actions, even though that was kind of the spark that started the fire, right? bit. Right. Well, yeah, if you had gotten an attorney, he would have, he would have immediately said, listen, we can keep you from being in, if it was a federal attorney, he would have been like, I can keep you from me even being indicted. You know, like, because that's what happens is, you know, you'll get a, sometimes if your crime is small and you've got, um, information on a much, much larger crime that they didn't know about. A lot of times you can parlay that into like a pretrial intervention where they're like, look, we're going to let you walk.

You owe this money. You have to pay this money back. But we're going to let you cooperate on this other thing. That way they don't have to put you on the stand as someone who's a criminal. And they allow you to just pay back. And then, of course, the U.S. attorney would have made you sound like, oh, she's just a victim, you know, or they would have tried to have tried to get you to say that they told me to do this. They, they suggested that, you know, oh, it would have been, you'd have been in a whole different world if it had been two FBI agents that showed up. Yeah, there was a whole, there was a whole plethora of bullshit that happened regarding the money and them.

Um, because I also, I kept pushing when I did finally get an attorney and it was a paid attorney, but it was also a in the small town where, um, I mean, they were, they were coming for me already. And he, I honestly believe my attorney was part of that. He was not for me. And so much so that the first offer he brought to me and asked me to sign, encouraged me to sign was for a 40 year sentence, four zero. So he definitely wasn't for me. Um, but sometime during that, I kept pushing like, I want another audit because I didn't take that much money. Yes, I moved that around, but the money that I actually had changes my felony to a second degree felony. And that's pretty massive, you know. And they kept not, not, not. And then later, I realized that they were not doing that because my employers got to file the, insurance claim for the entire amount. You know, they got to get $365,000 from an insurance company, even though that's not

what they lost. Like it was just crooked all the way around. But my brain is here. Yeah, I think I felt so guilty and not so guilty towards the, and I realize how this makes me sound and I'm going to say it anyway because it's the truth, but not so much guilty towards my action with the company, but guilty for putting myself in a situation that would cause my family so much grief and trauma and all of the things that come with the ripple effect of our actions.

Like I just, that was such a heavy on my chest that I was only looking inward. And that's why you need a good attorney because they could have. have led me in some other directions. Yeah. A couple hundred thousand dollars, two to three hundred thousand dollars, honestly probably would have gotten you a few months if that in a federal prison. You might have done 90 days, might have done six months. And then you'd be on probation for a couple of years and you have to pay restitution

payments while you were on probation. State, even the state, although I know guys that have gotten 10 years before in the state for, you know, for, you know, what was probably half a million dollars, which doesn't seem like a lot of money to me to do 10 years for. Still, that's insane. But I also know the other guys who got attorneys who ended up getting probation. Like, we all stole half a million dollars. There's four of us or three of us. These three guys got attorneys. They got probation. This guy walked in without an attorney and just said, look, and just explained to the, to the judge what happened with like a public defender who said yeah you want to do it go ahead

explained it and the judge hammered him him like i thought i want to say it was close to 10 years because i remember thinking what they were like because the guy that told me about it was this guy uh that i wrote a story on and he was like yeah it's insane and i did i looked at it i think the guy got like eight years or something and then you know and his attorney his public defender was like what did the public defender say he said something he was like he was like oh, it's a miscarriage of justice and this and that. But it's like, well, why didn't you talk him out of it? You know?

But the other things, too, is the other guy took pleas, and this guy took a no contest or whatever. He wasn't willing to admit that he was, they have enough to convict me, but I'm not going to admit I did anything. And he went in front of the judge and argued and explained, look, this is what happened. I'm not guilty.

And Judge was like, no. So, yeah, people are super naive. Sometimes you get people that are super naive, and their attorneys don't really explain what jeopardy they're in. You know, they're like, they listen to them and they're even trying to talk them out of it. Like my, my girlfriend in her case, she was going to go to trial. And her attorney never even tried, he was like, are you sure you want to do that? She's like, yeah, absolutely.

And he was like, okay, like that's it? That's what you said was okay. No, no, no, no. Listen, you don't seem to understand. I would hammer them like, you're, you're insane. Do you know what you'll get? Can't go to trial. You're guilty.

It got evidence. Right. And everything that we were like everything you learn in kindergarten about being honest and just telling, telling the truth and telling what it is, all of that. You can't bring that to the legal system. That's not how it works. It's stacked against you. You know, there's, you don't get extra credit for telling. the truth that you don't get, I mean, all of that's out. And that became very obvious pretty

early on. But I had already, you know, I had already, like I said, I never was going to try to claim innocent. But honestly, I thought I would get probation with restitution. And in county jail, you know, these girls who had been to prison and in and out of jail hearing people's cases and, you know, the jailhouse lawyers, they're telling me, girl, you're getting probation. Money? You ain't never been in trouble before. Girl, you're going home. Don't worry about it. You're going home. And then I go to the court the first time. My offer's 40. And then it's, what, 26 or something. And then it's, you know, and it ended at 20. You know, I signed for a 20-year sentence. And that's a whole other, that's just a whole other. My attorney pulls out the, in Texas, the way that they do probation. I mean, excuse me, parole.

He pulls it up on his laptop. And he's like, this is why you can sign this. He's like, look, at 28 months, you see parole. Everybody that doesn't get in trouble goes home. You know, and it turns out they don't know what the hell they're talking about. They're not the parole board. They don't, you know, and I was just,

I was eight months into it. I was ready for it to be over. At 28 months, in my mind, I was like, okay, I won't miss my oldest kids high school graduation. I'll be there for my youngest kids

first day of kindergarten. Like these are what's the things that are going through my mind. I'm like, okay, I can make that work. I can make that work. And then I get to prison and that's just not how things work. He built some of the nation's largest banks out of an estimated $55 million because $50 million wasn't enough and $60 million seemed excessive. He is the most interesting man in the world. I don't typically commit crimes, but when I do, it's bank fraud. stay greedy my friends support the channel join matthew cox's patreon i i know a i know a chick

sorry i know a woman that she and her girlfriend got into a shootout with the police they robbed multiple convenience stores she i think she rammed a police car and they fired at the police car with her and her girlfriend in it didn't kill her killed her girlfriend she was charged with um attempted with with with her girlfriend's murder I think and I think and I could be getting some of this wrong I think it was she got charged with murder like an attempted murder of like a police officer actually know they dropped the that um because they found out that the police officer was was like he was he like she didn't actually drop

towards him. But she got out on parole after a few years, like five, six years. First time, I think first or second time she was up for parole, she got out. And she got like a life sentence. Like a 30 year sentence or a life sentence. Got out in like five years or six years. I did an interview with her. I can't. Like that is an insane sentence that you got. That really is. like yeah that's it's outrageous so so what did you stay married to your original to your husband that you were married no no we didn't stay married we um he he held me down the whole time you know he he made sure that our girls knew me he brought them to visit he had the phone set up for me to talk to them um he most definitely held them down but our marriage just didn't survive and

I don't even think it's so much our marriage started falling apart when I start throwing all these lies. You know, our marriage was not, I didn't go to prison and our marriage was great. I went to prison and our marriage was already rocky because I had been hiding this huge thing from him. And so, no, our marriage didn't survive. Yeah, I mean, honestly, that's as much as you could ask. What you got was as much as you could have asked had it been a perfect marriage. I mean, that's a lot, like 10 years, that's a lot. ask of somebody um but yeah um wow i think i've actually mentioned i i i remember seeing a a movie

before i went to prison where the guy it was in new yorks back in the 70s he the beginning in the movie he gets out of jail early like six months early you know is overcrowding they're releasing people and so in the beginning credits of the movie They show you him unpacking, you know, that the guards say, hey, overcrowding. You're in the next bunch. You're getting out. He's like, oh, can I use the phone? And, you know, I got to call my wife.

And the guy's like, they're like, no, you got to get on the bus. So he packs his stuff right away and the credits are rolling. Gets on the bus. He's traveling. Gets to the bus station, goes to call his wife. There's a line. He's got a little pass for a taxi. He gets in the taxi, drives to the house, goes in the house, walks upstairs to the, up in this tower.

he's in New York, downtown New York, and puts the key in the lock and goes like open the door and hears his wife inside say, honey, do you want some wine? And he stops and he looks in and he can see his wife in there. And you can hear a guy say, yeah, baby, I'll take some wine. And she walks over and you see her walk off with the wine. And he realizes, oh, my gosh.

And he kind of for a second, you can see his ang. angry. And then he stops. And he closes the door, unlocks it, goes downstairs, walks across the street, calls from the pay phone and says, and she answers. And she's like, hey, baby, what are you doing? How are you? He goes, listen, I got let out early because of prison overcrowded, overcrowding. I'm on my way home, but I didn't want to stop by in case you needed to clean the place up and she says you get she's like um how long till you get here and he goes how long do you need is 15 or 20 minutes long enough she says yeah it's fine i'll have everything cleaned up by the time you get here and he goes okay and she's like i love you and he's like i love you too hangs up the phone and he stands across the street of the pay phone and like five minutes later she comes downstairs with this guy in all of his bags and he's screaming like i don't understand and she helps and throw all this stuff into a taxi and she goes, you knew what it was. You knew he was coming home. It's over. And the guy

gets in the taxi and drives off and she runs upstairs. Then the husband, waste a minute, he goes upstairs, goes up, opens the door. The wife hugs him, says, oh my gosh, I've made dinner. He goes and sits down and she says, would you like some wine. He says, yes, I would like some wine, baby. And she goes, okay, and she goes and gets them some wine. And that's how the movie starts. And I remember thinking when I watched that, I remember thinking if you go to prison, that's the best you can hope for. That's it. The best you can hope for. And when I went to prison, I always thought to myself, like, whoever I'm with, that's, that's, it's over. That's horrible. But it's just the only people I know where their marriages survived were where the husband was in prison and he was worth millions and millions and

millions of dollars and it was a short sentence five years maybe five years six years you know so so yeah it's it's a it's a tough situation because you know it's over and and even then you know they're they're just praying that their their spouse you know if the marriage is over that the spouse, you know, still answers the phone, brings their kids, you know, that stuff. Like, that's the best you can hope for. It's a horrible situation. Yeah, absolutely. The support that's needed, even if the marriage dissolves, like, that's massive.

I can't say enough for even just, hey, this is going on and I just need to tell you about how bad it sucks in here right now, you know, and to have that listening. ear that that's huge and then to take it a step further and make sure i had a relationship with my kids yeah i couldn't never have asked for anything more because he could have easily i could not know my daughters easily right yeah it's it's yeah you got you got lucky now you didn't get a lot of you didn't get a lot of breaks but that was a break you know um it's prison Yeah, that's, so 10 years in a state prison, oh my God, in Texas, oh, my God, as a white chick with blonde hair. Yeah, Matthew, I had never experienced, and like I said, I kind of grew up in this little bubble, but I had never experienced racism until, and it was from staff.

it wasn't even from other ladies. I'll say that. The ladies that I was incarcerated with and I was on a maximum security unit, man, they rock. They stick together. There are some little cliques, but it's not based on race.

It's not based on hometown. It's not, no kind of affiliation. It's just based on, these are people that think like I do, you know, just like you would anywhere else. And we, we, were able to, I was able to make a lot of strong connections in there with those ladies, but it was culture shock for certain. I mean, it was very diverse. I had not been around a lot of

people of color. It opened so many, it opened my eyes and the eyes of so many of my family members into how like the school to prison pipeline is, how 33% more of African American or black people are incarcerated in this country than white people. Like it's just, it just opened so much for me. And I'm grateful for that. I wish that I could have learned about those things without going to prison, right? I wish that my eyes could have kind of been open to how this country actually is because I think I lived in this little bubble and it was all cupcakes and rainbows and butterflies.

And then I get there and I'm realizing these ladies have had a freaking rough life. You know, these ladies have grown up with their parents as addicts or their uncles pimping them out to get high. Like just horrible things. They've had childhood trauma that I never had to experience. So as sucky and crappy as my situation was, I did not have to look far to realize how fortunate I have had it my entire life and during my incarceration because I had parents and my brother and grandparents and, you know, as my kids grew, I had them and lots of those ladies didn't know where their kids were. They didn't have anybody to get on the phone

with. So Texas prison conditions are very hard. They're tough. They're raw. You know, it's Texas A&M did a study that the temperatures reach 149 to breeze in the summer in some of those cells it's it's rough but um the ladies we we stuck together so yeah i did come into the prison um coming from quite a bit more privilege than most people in that prison most people with my kind of crimes do go to feds they're they're not used to seeing me there um my type of crime and um but i was accepted in there amongst the inmates now the laws the laws gave me hell right so when so how many times did you go to parole and get turned out i'm assuming yeah five or six times i um yeah it's bad texas parole they say the significant monetary loss

we're denying you because of some shit i cannot change and that's they love the parole board in texas loves to say sorry you can't go home because the nature of your crime sorry you can't go home because you it was multiple criminal like excessive criminal activity because maybe it was multiple transactions like they like to say things that you have no control over it's it's insane so we're working on trying to get some legislation passed to change that right now but yeah it's insane so i go i go and i'm doing i'm in prison and i'm enrolled in college i'm not getting in trouble. I'm in the privileged dorm where people that don't get in trouble live. I'm an outside trustee, which is like the highest level of trust for an inmate to have, doing everything I think

I'm supposed to taking these correspondence classes, racking up certificates for the parole board. My poor mom, my family's just naive to the legal system. I start to go into review for parole. My mom calls the warden. And she's like, my daughter's up. for parole and da-da-da-da and the warden tells her oh she's an outside trustee yeah she'll make parole they don't freaking know y'all need to stop speaking on it y'all do not know what the parole is you know and so my i just remember that conversation with my mom she's like honey the warden says you're probably coming home you know and it's just all this hope and all this build-up and then and then in Texas you don't go in front of a parole board it's all on paper you know a representative

gathers the information, you go in and talk to them, but they already have the information. They're like, so you're in college, yes, check. So you took this class, yes, check. I mean, that's how it is. And then you have to wait, and that answer was a one-year set-off. So it's just the same process year after year. And Matthew, by the middle of my sentence, I wilded it out. I lost it.

I was, yeah, I mean, all the way. the worst of the worst, whatever you're thinking when I say that about somebody in prison, how they act, that's what I started doing. I just didn't give a shit, thought they were going to make me do my whole time. I began kind of lying to myself in my mind. My mental state was not good. And I was telling myself, like, your kids would have been better off if you died instead of went to prison because they would have already been recovered.

And as it is, I'm freaking every year with this parole and every day that I'm not there. and they know that I'm here, but I'm not there, you know, that's harmful and hurtful and traumatic for them. And so, I mean, it ended up in like a couple suicide attempts. I ended up in the prison psych ward, which if you think prison sucks, you think the conditions in prison are bad, you ought to hit the psych hospital, you know, because that's, that's the real. That's how how this country handles mental illness. and how prisons handle mental illness is just to tuck them away,

lock them away, leave them unheard. Yeah, I was going to say that prisons are the mental hospitals. Like they don't, you know, like what mental hospitals are there? There's almost none of them.

You know, now they just wait for you to commit a crime and they just put you through the prison system. And it's just brutal. Yeah, absolutely. And that's, that's,

yeah, I saw that. That's, I often, I often say that the women that I was incarcerated with, they were broken long before they went to prison. Mental illness, substance abuse disorder, childhood traumas, growing up in poverty, just all of that. But prison, it broke me. They're in the middle of my sentence.

It broke me. So, I mean, so when you did get. you know probation where you were you were I mean sorry when you did get parole where you just you just kind of were shrug you were good just going through the motions and kind of shrugging it off it's not like you weren't holding out hope anymore is that basically what I'm hearing basically I pulled myself out of that that funk or whatever it was I was down in the dungeon for about two and a half years is that like the hole the shoe no i mean in my own like the dungeon in my soul so i did spend time in

the shoe lots of times but never like the longest time was two months during that time because i was acting out i was wild and out and um something just kind of clicked in me and i thought Marcy, are you going to, is this you now? Is this you? Is this or are you going to come out of this? Because I wasn't a healthy place, you know? So I pulled myself out of that and set down. I started, I got off all my restrictions because I was on every kind of restriction and started going to the store.

And that's like, that's all the only place I went. I stopped going to the chow hall. I stopped going to any kind of chapel events or churches or, you know, I'm in Texas. I'm in the Bible Belt. It's major indoctrination in our prison system. And I used to go to all that to see everybody, right? And do whatever traffic and trade and do whatever prison stuff that goes down. And I just stopped.

I requested a job change so that I worked in my dorm. I was the SSI or the dorm janitor. And I barely left and I just hung out with myself and the few people that I just really trusted there in the dorm. And I stopped getting disciplinary cases and then I started getting my lines back, which is like the privilege to even make parole because I had gone so far down that parole wasn't even seeing me anymore. So once I did that, I didn't really have hope that I was going to make parole. But also I knew at least if I was happy when I came up for review again because I knew at least if I didn't make it, it was on them. Because at least I was not getting in trouble anymore and I was doing what I was supposed to be doing.

And then they decided it was time. So they gave me parole with this huge stipulation. Like I make parole, but I don't get home until a year later because I have the six-month in prison program that takes months. to pool chain to and then I have to go to a halfway house. It's got all these stipulations, but yeah, I make parole.

Okay. And you get out and you immediately start doing TikToks. No, I didn't start doing TikToks for about, for several months. I am, man, Matthew,

coming home as a mom to kids that you left when they were in diapers and now they're in middle school or you left in middle school and now they're grown and I have I have two grandchildren. That was my focus. People would ask when after I made parole, they'd be like, what are you going to do when you get home? I'm like, I'm loving up my kids. Man, I want to wrestle and play and I want to love up my kids. You know, and so that was my primary focus. I start working at Amazon. I applied for them online and I start working there and I like it. It's kind of institutionalized, honestly, working in that warehouse. And so it was fine for me. I'm easy to take instructions. I'm easy to, you know, a lot of people hate that job.

But honestly, for me, it fit right in. Highly recommend if you're getting out of prison to go work there because it worked wonderfully for me. But my parents, my dad and my brother are musicians and in Fort Worth in Texas in Fort Worth Texas they're well known amongst the music scene and they have this big party it's like COVID's ending and it's kind of a my parents had an anniversary my brother had his 40th birthday all during COVID they lost a lot of friends but then they also had a lot of friends survive COVID and it was a big party you know they're hosting this big party and there are hundreds of people there.

And I'm on stage introducing musicians. I'm on stage begging people for money to tip the musicians. I'm on stage when my parents renewed their vows at that party. And in the whole time, I'm like, I'm just so glad to be home. And my brother's on the microphone saying, we're celebrating this and this. And we're celebrating that Marcy's home. And I see people like side-eyeing each other. And they don't know what the hell.

hell we're talking about. And these are, you know, these are my parents' friends. And I'm like, it felt like there was a huge elephant in the room. And I had a conversation with my dad after that. I'm like, people don't know. Dad, what's up? People don't know. I've been gone a decade. Like, you know, and he's like, well, we told some of our closest friends, but we didn't put it out there because we didn't know how you would feel when you came home. We, you know. And so I was like, okay. So I had been introduced to TikTok. I had been watching videos and I thought, all right. So I made a TikTok and it was me with my mugshot, you know, and it's just like it's me saying, well, I googled my name and y'all, I wish I'd never done it. And I'm showing my mugshot in the picture, you know. And

that started and I put it on my parents' Facebook, you know, and that's just how I was like, This is where I've been. And I mostly just wanted people to know because it's part of my story. It's part of my history. It's what happened. I'm not going to lie about it. I'm not going to hide it because it's just what it is. And if you want to ask me something, you can.

And if not, that's fine. But this is what it is. You know, this is where I've been. But from that video, people just start asking questions and they want to know. What did you do? Where were your kids? Who took care of your kids? I mean, they just want to know everything.

And I just start answering, you know, that 90% of my TikToks are a response to someone's question. I'm just answering and it just takes off. And I'm appalled at how much response I'm getting. And, you know, it just, the account grows and grows and grows. And it starts opening all these doors for me. TikTok was not paying me very much. I was making my car note with TikTok, which I thought was phenomenal. Are you serious?

yeah oh yeah that's great within six months i was paying my car note with with ticot it it just it took off um but but that's it i mean i wasn't going to be able to quit my job or anything but then it starts i start getting contacted about speaking engagements um i work with five different different universities um talking to their classes and all of those are like little money little paid gigs right But all that adds up. And then I get some big opportunities, which Rosie O'Donnell, she contacts me and says, hey, I love your, I love your videos. And we need to talk, you know, and I'm like, what?

You know, checking her account, is this her? This is a verified, this is a verified account. Is it really her? And I'm calling my brother. Because I'll tell you this, I've gotten scammed two different times since I've gotten out of prison. Are you serious? Yes. Yes.

I would think you would be, I would think you, I've been, I've had multiple people attempt to scam me. And I've sent them text messages back and been like, listen, nice try. I, I, I'm, I hear you. Yeah. But no, that's, I'm not, I'm not sending you the extra money that you accidentally sent me. Stop. Stop.

Yeah. Yeah. And it wasn't like one of those, hey, do you, you have a cash out messages. It wasn't that. it was purchasing things online or I purchased something through Facebook marketplace that was a fraud. And I just

I didn't realize how much things progressed in, yeah. So anyways, there's a bunch of scumbags out here. Yeah, yeah. And so my brother's automatically knowing my history of getting scammed.

You know, he's like, it's not her, Marcy, it is not her. Something's going on. They're fixing to start asking you for a bunch of stuff. I'm like, well, I mean, what does it hurt to talk to her? You know, so I talk to her on the phone and I hear her voice and it sounds like her. And she's saying, I want to do something. I want to work out some kind of production deal.

I want to make a story about your life outside of prison. And I'm telling my brother, he's like, Marcy, make her FaceTime you. And I said, I'm not fixing to ask this lady. Who am I to ask Rosie O'Donnell? I'm sorry, ma'am. Can you FaceTime me? You know? And so the way I handled it because she was so friendly and casual with text messages back and forth.

And so it almost made my family feel even more so that it was a fraud because why would she be so casual conversating with us with me? And so my parents are over for dinner one night and I had a scheduled phone call with Rosie and I said, yes, y'all come for dinner. but when I have the phone call, I'll need to go back and take it. Well, she called, but it just happened. She called on FaceTime. So it was kind of insane. I'm in the kitchen with my mom and my dad. And I'm like, oh, okay, my phone's ringing.

And I look and I was like, it's FaceTime. And everybody's like, you know, and I hit the hit it. And it's Rosie O'Donnell on my phone. And, you know, my mom's like, hi, Rosie. And it was just, I was like, oh, my goodness, Rosie, here are my parents. now let's go have our phone call but that was like the legit oh this is really her

and this is really something she wants to do since then we've been working with writers creating a series and I think it's going to be really cool so I mean that's you know I think that

you know well I mean obviously once again that's like the best that could the best thing that could happen but the other thing is that you know if you don't I know I met so many people in prison that just they they don't want to be out there they want to hide what they did they want to you know like they want to bury you know try and bury any newspaper articles like they're just not willing to accept you know anybody they don't want anybody to know and it's like okay that's fine you know that's your prerogative but then you're you may be missing one I think you're missing a huge opportunity just in your soul just to to be honest, instead of feeling like you're hiding the whole time. And then the other thing is, like, you know, if you don't tell your story,

then no opportunity is going to come your way. Like, you have to, to me, it's like, I have to try and make the best of every situation. The best of your situation is being honest and it comes back to you, right? I mean, for you, that's the best. You could have just gone back. and said, yeah, I'm going to bury my head in the sand and never talk about it again and avoid the subject and maybe even have, maybe even lie if somebody were to ask me and, and, and just, you know, I'm going to change my name and I'll use the new name and I'll, I'll, you know, like, it's like,

what are you doing? Yeah, and that happened. So many people that I was incarcerated with. Now, I have one friend that she changed her name, but not so much to hide just because she was, a new self. That's how she said it. I'm rebuilding. But lots, lots of people I was locked up with changed their name on social media. They go by something else. They change their name legally, all of that. But I'll say it was, yes, telling my story definitely open doors. Definitely. If I had not done that, I'm not going to say that I wouldn't have a happy life, but I wouldn't be able

to advocate the way that I do. I wouldn't have the time to go to the Capitol and testify for legislation. I wouldn't have time to correspond as much as I do with the ladies that are incarcerated, trying to make changes and helping them. I mean, it just, it changed my life so much dramatically for the better financially and time-wise, because I would probably be working in a warehouse or something of that nature. I would, you know, I mean, my life would be very different but additionally to that telling my story has been so therapeutic it's it's such a breath of fresh air to know that everything's out you know there's nothing nobody i'm not at work thinking i hope my boss doesn't see you know i hope somebody doesn't google me and see my mugshot or my

write up in the article when i or the newspaper when i got arrested or you know it's none of that It's out. It's there. And as I'm starting to make videos and I'm working in Amazon, I have my co-workers be like, girl, I saw you make fried pickles with the hairdryer, you know, on TikTok. And I'm like, yeah. And then they're like, I didn't know you've been to prison. I'm like, yeah, I have.

I've only been home at that time, you know, eight months or nine months or whatever. So, yeah, I think that even if I didn't like publish my stories, though, it would have been beneficial for me to even record them. Like I recommend video diaries. I didn't ever know in life how crucial it was to be able to share your thoughts and then hear yourself say your thoughts. Yeah. So I do, TikTok has led me to video diary a lot, a lot.

My grandmother has been diagnosed with dementia and Alzheimer's, and she's been such an influence on my entire life. held me down like like a rock during my incarceration and I video diary that those things those interactions with her and it's just it's very therapeutic it's very helpful um okay so do you have anything else you can think of you want to talk about or well just that um sharing our stories as people that have had a criminal background or been to prison or had legal troubles, which it, I mean, it's one in three people in this country have interaction with the law at some point.

You know, so us being vocal about that and telling people about that and being successful in our spaces, whatever that success looks like, whatever, if you're working at McDonald's And you get a customer service bonus or recommendation or employee of the month. And your co-workers and bosses know that you've been to prison and that you have a past. That's just helping break down the barriers. You know, I just think it's so important for us to be okay with what has happened in the past, to forgive ourselves and walk with our heads up high and be proud of who we are now. Hey, this is Matt Cox, and if you like the video, do me a favor and hit the subscribe button, hit the bell.

So you get notified of videos just like this. Also, share this video. Check out Marcy's one, her, you know, her Instagram, her TikTok, but also her YouTube channel. And when I was incarcerated, I wrote a bunch of true crime books, and they're all available on Amazon and Barnes and Nobles. So check out the trailers. Using forgeries and bogus identities, Matthew B. Cox, one of the most ingenious con men in history, built America's biggest banks out of millions. Despite numerous encounters with bank security, state, and federal authorities, Cox narrowly, and quite luckily, avoided capture for years. Eventually, he topped the U.S. Secret Service's most wanted list, and led the U.S. Marshal

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The fact is, Shrinker wants you to think he's innocent. The problem is, Cox knows Shrinker's a pathological liar and his stories of fabrication. As Cox subtly coaxes, cajoles, and yes, Kahn Shrinker into revealing his deceptions, his stranger than fiction life of lies slowly unravels. This is the story Shrinker didn't want you to know. Bailout, the life and lies of Marcus Shrinker. Available now on Barnes & Noble, Etsy, and Audible. Matthew B. Cox is a conman, incarcerated in the Federal Bureau of Prisons

for a variety of bank fraud-related scams. Despite not having a drug problem, Cox inexplicably ends up in the prisons residential drug abuse program, known as Ardap. A drug program in name only. Ardap is an invasive behavior modification therapy, specifically designed to correct the cognitive thinking errors associated with criminal behavior. The program is a nonfiction dark comedy, which chronicles Cox's side-splitting journey. This first-person account is a fascinating glimpse at the survival-like atmosphere inside of the government-sponsored rehabilitation unit.

While navigating the treachery of his backstabbing peers, Cox simultaneously manipulates prison policies and the bumbling staff every step of the way. The program. How a Conman survived the Federal Bureau of Prisons cult of Ardap. Available now on Amazon and Audible. If you saw anything you like, links to all the books are in the description box.