Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Tate's Indictment Unsealed | Romanian Case Is a House of Cards

Episode Date: March 7, 2024

Tate's Indictment Unsealed | Romanian Case Is a House of Cards

Hey, this is Matt Cox, and we're going to be talking about how the Matrix is coming unraveled for Andrew Tate. Listen, the Matrix thought they had them, and I don't think of they do. We've got the, his lawyer came out and said there's no way they can substantiate the claims against him. The prosecutor is going to have a major problem. We've also got multiple supposed victims that are coming out and saying, hey, this is untrue. It's absolutely untrue. They're seizing his assets and listen we've got some super interesting stuff to come to go over and i really appreciate it so check this out so where do you want to start i think uh so you know i you know this is the thing like i i i read an article that essentially says the same thing that the five or six videos that

i watch also said they're all kind of saying the same thing but you know it's it's You know, this stuff comes out and then it kind of gets, it gets, you know, disseminated and gobbled up and regurgitated. And before you know it, the narrative changes slightly. But from what I can tell right now is that, I mean, being impartial and looking at what I saw and what the transcription of what his lawyer just said is that he is saying that. based on the you know based on the charges and based on the what essentially is like an indictment kind of the factual stipulations that they they presented to the judge in order to go and arrest him and hold him she's saying that she doesn't see that the that the allegations support what he's being held for and or and or that he has broken the law you know at all so you know the the the

the problem is like like transportation of you know transporting someone for the purposes of a sexual act or something like you know these are women that supposedly either were there in romania or flew in willingly knowing they were going to work for them so is that transportation knowing you're flying in here to be a webcam girl and and possibly you know do sexual things in front of the camera or do sexual acts or whatever i don't know you know I don't know if that's a problem for the algorithm for me to say that, but, you know, like, no, you know, according to his lawyer and according to even the U.S., the United States, like if I say, hey, do you want to fly in here and, you know, and, you know, sleep together or, you know, he's very specific on what they're going to be doing and they fly in, then is that, is that sex trafficking? No, that's not sex trafficking. Like, these aren't girls that were lured in under, false pretenses. And this is just what his lawyers basically kind of saying. So she's saying he doesn't meet that criteria. So that's, that's one thing that's, that's extremely questionable.

But, you know, to be honestly, to be fair and impartial, your lawyer's always going to back you up. Yeah. Your lawyer's always going to say that. There's nothing here that proves that he did anything. And you're like, okay, well, that's fine. But so Tate's lawyers, of course, backing him up. What's she going to do? She's going to say, oh, yeah, this guy, he's in trouble. He did all this stuff. Like, she's not going to say that. But also, you know, there's, there are some major, there are some issues because if you

read the comments, it's funny in the comment section of the videos that we've been putting up that people don't seem to be able to discern the difference between, you know, public opinion and facts. so if a lot of people allege that someone did something it doesn't mean that they did that and i can give you an example of that i wrote a story called devil exposed it's about a friend of mine uh you know and i say a friend of mine it's about a guy i met in prison and we became friends so his name is uh pierre rassini and i wrote a book called devil exposed and several there were several people on his case that said that the victim in his case was was shot in the head and his body was buried in the desert now the the homicide detectives and this was in california

the homicide detectives were going to people and saying look we know you know that you know that he was he was killed and they already had heard from people how he was killed so they would go to and and it had gotten around the circle of friends and and associates of his so when they would go to someone they'd say look we know he's dead what have you heard and they would say listen i mean you know you know we got shot in the head right you know they buried his body and they go yeah that's what we heard so they continued along that narrative and they continued and continued and so it got to a point where they only they only pursued people that were saying that he had been shot his body had been rolled up in a in a sleeping bag and they transported him in the in russini's car and they buried

him in the desert now later on what ended up happening was the guy that act now they all said that Rusini shot him. Rusini shot him. Rusini put him in a sleeping bag. Rusini put him in the back of his car with several other, with the help of a few other people, and they buried his body. So of course, they arrest Rossini.

Multiple people are now ready to get on the stand and say, this is what happened. This is what I heard. And people that actually were like, I believe people that had actually helped transport the body, were also saying that his body, that he'd been shot in the head. the other thing was there was a section of carpet that had been cut out of the out of the bedroom in the bedroom there was a section of carpet in the in the in the section of carpet in i think the in the bedroom and in the bedroom walk-in closet that had been removed now once they grab rsini and that the truth comes out the guy that actually killed him said now this by the way this is all this comes out after rassini

and he has pled guilty because there are multiple people saying they're going to testify that he did this so what did he do he pled guilty i can't let five people get on the stand and say i shot the guy in the head they helped me move the body and that it was his body was buried in the desert even if i say that's not true that's not true that's not true there's five people saying that they came in after the fact and helped dispose of the body and i did help dispose the body like i did it was in my car but i didn't shoot him how does that look these guys say you shot him everybody says they heard you shot him everybody says you did shoot him the guys showed up said you shot him and there's carpet pieces of carpet missing from the apartment that you live

in he plays guilty later it comes out that another guy guy's name was a i remember his name was nason something anyway turns out nason had gotten into an argument with the victim during the argument he he choked him got his his his arm around his neck and broke his neck he then went he left the body there and when rsini came home later that night he found the body now he couldn't call the police because they were running a methamphetamine lab in that apartment the carpet had been cut out because they'd spilled chemicals and they had cut out the carpet in those areas so when rassini called several people to come help get rid of the body they showed up they saw that carpet was removed the body was wrapped up in a in a sleeping bag and they helped him put the

body in the back of the of his vehicle rsini then disposed of the body and in a landfill. But everybody else said it was buried in the desert. Rusini says that's not what happened. Now, they never found the body. And Rusini said, if once I had pled guilty, I would have shown him where the body was. If that was the case, I would have said,

hey, let's go out. I'll go tell you where it is. I pled guilty. I would have been able to prove that I didn't shoot him in the head. My point is later on, the true killer shows up and says he killed him. He broke his neck. neck. They disposed of the body in a landfill. Rusini ended up pleading guilty for shooting

him in the head and burying his body in the desert. Two different places of burial, two different forms of murder. Rusini did not kill him, but he'd already pled guilty. The other guy pled guilty. Rusini also had pled guilty to one kind of conspiring. So it was almost impossible to get his case return because he'd also pled guilty for conspiring even though the other guy ultimately had said that he had it was an accident so what i'm saying is a lot of times law enforcement people put out this these these um narratives that get consumed by by the media and by everyone and it gets repeated so much it becomes what really happened even though it's not what happened Now, you know, there's a lot of other thing in that case, in Rossini's case that, that, you know, there was, there was another murder. There was a lot of other things. But what I'm saying is it's a great example of the difference between basically how public opinion can really hinder you. So and, but there's a huge difference between public opinion and public opinion can destroy you. Even in a criminal case, a lot of people will say, well, public opinion doesn't harm you.

you know that doesn't matter but that does matter it can definitely matter in a case like this because look at what's happening whether it's true or not if for instance a few years ago when um tate's ex-girlfriend uh came out with that there there was that that tape that was leaked of the two of them having sex where it looked like he was being extremely abusive when in fact she then came out that made a couple of tapes that said look look, I'm the girl in the tape. He wasn't abusing me. It was a, it was a kind of a, it was a, we were playing around. It was rough, you know, it was rough sex. And I was not being abused. And he's not a, he's not a, a woman beater and all the things that were happening. But there

was all this huge, huge outcry about what a scumbag he is. But the, the truth is, I've dated women that wanted to be choked. I've dated women that want to be spanked, that wanted to be, you know, all kinds of strange things. Taking out of context, that could certainly look bad. Luckily, this girl came out. She said, that's not what happened. This is what happened. It was consensual. I was totally into it. It's what happened. She's also come out recently again and come out with another video where she came out. And she said, look, I date this guy for years he and his brother would never do anything like this like i i've you know she was around them for years never saw anything like the allegations that are that are um that are out there you know is that

true i mean i don't know what her i don't know what her uh what benefit there is to her why she would say that that's not true why she would be especially he's in jail like if you were worried about somebody or scared of them, then I don't know why you would continue to come out and defend, especially an X, an X, you know, like that's the person who wants to. Unless they're paying or something is the only other thing, you know. That's true, but both of them are in, are in jail. Yeah, but maybe, is it their team? Yeah, someone, because their team is pulling, is making moves and calling shots, even

why they're in jail, like we were talking about earlier. Now, I have no idea, but that's the. thing that i could think of like here's the other thing by the way here's the other thing that gets me anyway there's there's videos of these of one of the girls that is listed on the indictment listed as a victim she says back in april when she was questioned by the police she said i told him then i wasn't a victim that this isn't what was going on the police then listed her as a victim in order to get this arrest warrant and hold and be able to hold him. She's a victim. She's in, you know, she's in Romania and she's a victim.

You have to hold him. She could be in danger. She's saying, I'm not in danger and I'm not a victim. And I've told the police this. So that's a little bit frightening. And you know, here's what bothers me too. I'm sorry, go ahead. You were going to say. go ahead. I was just going to say, yeah, it's, it's, it's almost like, you know, whoever's in charge or could be in charge of that thing, like if they have a, you know, a preconceived notion about whether they like this guy or not just because he's everywhere and everything he says is, you know, insane or super polarizing. Like, you know, they're just out to get him. It could be. I mean, it could be, it could be a dirty. Look, look, it could be he's 100% guilty. Yeah. And what's funny is they, like, every time I say, I've said stuff like that, like, then if you look in the comment section, they're like, you're anti-tape, you're a piece of garbage. You that, hey, I don't know the truth. And I know the guys in the comment section don't know, you know, because they seem to believe either they're, look, you can like someone and like what some of what they say or all of what they say. And that person can end up being a bad person.

Doesn't mean that everything they ever said was bad. Doesn't mean that it doesn't ring true, that it doesn't have truth to it. It just means that this person did some bad things. Yeah. And I mean, I don't think you're really going to be involved in that industry. There's some of the things that he's said without, you know, crossing past with some things that are, you know, on the line of legal or not illegal. And he's even, you know, said in different podcasts about the feds are at my door. You know, I had a very past.

I had to flush my phone and stuff. And, you know, who's saying, who's to say, you know. You know how many idiots? Like, I don't get what these guys are. Like, you know how many idiots I know that want to talk to me on Signal? I don't even know what that is. It's, well, actually, there's multiple apps like that. Download signal so I can talk to you.

Why? You know, bro, because, you know, it's encrypted. Well, I don't have, I'm not saying anything that needs to be encrypted. Nah, you know, you never know. No, I do know. I do know there are no reason for me to talk to you on on a signal and I've talked to a few people on signal but it always ends up being it's like what are we talking about like why are we on this we're having the same conversation I would have with you on through text yeah

what are we doing we use encrypted in case somebody's listening what we're not spies yeah what do they care right we're not planning a heist like what are you doing like you know I think people get excited and they want to believe they're a part of something or they're doing something nefariousness to make their lives exciting or something. I don't know. But, you know, it's like flush your flush your phone. Why? You know, why? But I know guys that really, they're like work at someplace like Walmart and they act like they're like, you know, they're, bro, you're, you're a manager at Walmart. You're not a gangster. Like what, you know, maybe they do something stupid every once in a while they're I don't know you know maybe they think they're doing something you know

I don't know what's wrong with people anyway the point is that so I love the fact that the victim one of the victims came out and said I'm not a victim and I'm listed as a victim and I'll give you and as far as the crooked crooked cop thing is concerned you know like I don't know this guy but I give you an example I was was in I was in prison with a guy by the name of I can't remember his last name because you know in prison you use either nicknames or last names they called him junior but his real name was Junier right it was French right so they you know we're Americans so we can't say a French you know Junior they they call him Junior Junior so Junior was a part of

a and it's funny because i'll bet you a lot of people will remember this there was a notorious group of police officers narcotics officers in in atlanta and for literally we're talking about 10 15 years they would go in and they were robbing drug dealers and what they would do is they would get no knock warrants so they would get some some drug addict they grab some drug addict that had drugs they say where'd you get them and they would give him the name of they a name and an address they'd then go they would then take they would then take what what they called us it was like a certified informant somebody whose information had led to arrests their word is now good so they would go to him and they said listen you see this

address of this name we need you to sign this affidavit that we can give to a judge so we can get a no knock warrant and go bust in that door. And so he would sign it because he's scared. He's still either doing drugs or selling drugs. These guys are keeping them out. These cops are keeping him out of jail. Because a lot of times you continue, you're allowed to continue, I mean, not technically, but they allow them to. They'll allow them to keep selling drugs. So we're basically going to protect you and let you sell drugs use drugs but you're going to be an informant so think about it you you you've got carte blanche you're you're untouchable so they go to this guy they say sign this they go then get a warrant signed by a judge they then go in they kick in the

front door of this house because they think it's a big drug house because remember the guy they grabbed earlier said it was where he got his drugs they kick in the door the woman inside hears this bam bam bam somebody's kicking in the door she gets out of bed grabs her gun walks in the hallway the door busts open she fired she starts shooting she hits the cops twice the cops then gun her down and kill her junior killed her she was a 70 year old retired school teacher grandmother she'd never sold drugs there were no drugs in the house the guy gave a fake address they searched the whole house they planted drugs they wouldn't plan when they realized how bad they screwed up they wouldn't planted drugs they said oh yeah you know

we have an informant then they go and they track that they're now tracking down their informant because they know there's going to be an investigation their informant has to say he really he already signed the affidavit but he might change his mind junior out of the whole bunch was the smartest one junior went that like two days later went straight to the fbi building and said i want to work out a deal because he knew i just killed an innocent woman i'm looking at serious prison time and all of our shenanigans are about to come out he buried everybody all of all of his co-defendants all of his partners he'd worked worth for 10 15 years he buried them all he was allowed to keep all the money

he ended up doing five years, I want to say, and I could be off by a year. He did five years in prison in the state and the Fed concurrent. So he did his state time while he was sitting in federal custody. So he's supposed to be doing it. Right now he's supposed to be in the state, but the feds are holding him. So he had a federal charge and a state charge. So he was allowed to do his state murder charge in the feds in a low security prison. he did five years and you got to keep all the money from everything he was doing

kept all the money did he i mean the kind of rebounds into some things i want to ask you too about like what what constitutes them taking or not like they seized all tate stuff but they don't take this guy's stuff you know what i mean or when you were arrested like they take all your things like what what constitutes them taking it or not well i mean i don't know what romanian law is but if they like in the united states they would have to prove well first of all they can come seize all my stuff they could just seize your stuff yeah when you have to prove no i bought that stuff with legal money now luckily for juniere he had a decent salary like his wife had worked he had a decent salary and he was able to prove like he was very good at laundering the money so i'm sure

he was able to prove i bought that all this with legitimate stuff but let's face it if i go buy $100,000 a year and I buy a $200,000 car and I buy a half a million dollar house and like I could probably prove that I can afford all that. The truth is there's a lot. I'm spending a lot of cash. I buy all my groceries with cash. I buy all my clothes with cash. I invest with cash. I do all kinds of we go on vacation with cash. We all those things that you could that most people spend their their money on. He's just using cash. So he's living way beyond his means in every penny of his of his law enforcement check is going toward what appears to be legitimate things and it's coming from a legitimate place, which is his check. So, you know, but think about it. He probably,

he's probably got a $100,000 worth of furniture that he all bought cash. You know, how do you got, how do they prove that? Well, where did you get this for? Oh, man, I've got that at a garage sale six years ago. I don't remember. You know, what are they going to do? Come take your couch? Like, you can't prove everything. Plus he has several legitimate businesses or on the side, whatever. I mean, he's able to do all that stuff because it was illegal cash. And also, they don't look that hard when you're helping them. If they're helping the government, we're not, we're not going to be too hard on where this money came from or what you did with the money. Plus, what does he really tell them? Yeah, every once in a while, we would get 50,000 and split it up. We'd each make $10,000.

Like, he's not telling them about how, listen, we're taking easily, easily we're making $100,000. We're splitting $100,000 a week between all of us. We're making $100,000 or $50 to $100,000 in cash, you know, for the last 10 years. He's not telling him that. He's downplaying it. I'm sure they all downplayed what they were stealing. Regardless, what I'm saying is there are crooked cops other. I've met crooked FBI agents.

I've met crooked DEA agents. I've met numerous crooked cops. I've met crooked, what is the DSC? D.SCI. I forget with the name of the military, the military branch that's kind of like the FBI. I've met those guys that ended up in prison. Like I've met many, many,

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creamy caramel and chewy fudge with a chocolatey coating swing by a gas station and get an oh henry today oh hungry oh henry lots of you know lots of regular police officers gosh what was this guy's name from chicago i've met a few guys from chicago like they got a lot of dirty dirty cops and this is one prison these are cops that are walking around with everybody else everybody knows they're cops so you know is are there it and this is the thing about about junior by the way unrepentant unrepentant when i we were sitting there talking one time and he was pissed because he was going to have to he thought he was going to be getting out in six months and he was going to end up having to do it the whole another more six months more than he thought

he was pissed and i was like why are you pissed he's like i'm pissed because this and this and our agreement was this and that it just you know it's bullshit and i and i went well you know junior i said i hate to bring this up i said but you did kill someone he she shot me twice and i went you broke into her house he goes i'm a police officer i said you broke into her house without a warrant without ever announcing who you were like i'd read the articles we and i had talked about it anyway you you don't yeah all right whatever i was like I'm trying to be a jerk or anything. I mean, you got your time.

You did your time. You know, you got what you're supposed to get. And, you know, whatever. But I'm just saying like, for God's sakes. And he's like, no, you, whatever, man. All right. No, I hear. I hear you.

I hear you. Never said, yeah, I fucked up. I'm sorry. I feel sick about it. It was horrible. This woman lived her whole life. She was a retired school teacher. She's a grandmother.

She's a decent person, you know, and I, nope. So the idea that, listen, and I talked in many, many, many police. Look at Dowd. Look at Mike Dowd. You know, I talked to these guys for this guy from Chicago who stuck a drug dealer in the back of his car one time, drove around for hours in the heat, in the middle of summer. He said, I'm telling you right now. He said, I don't know how he was alive because I really thought we were going to have to dump his body. He said he was half dead when they got him out. He was screaming for water. Listen, it was,

and you know we're talking about just complete torture no problem and this guy this guy said one time he showed up to a hearing for for somebody he had arrested he got on the stand and started describing what the guy had done and the guy just sat there listening to him he goes and it was complete bullshit everything i was saying was a lie he was just blatantly on the on the stand he said just lie I was lying about everything he said about halfway through my testimony the guy leaned over to his lawyer and said when's my case gonna be up and he goes this is your case and he goes what hey hey hey start screaming that didn't happen that's not me he's wrong what are you and they had they had to grab him they to drag him out of the courtroom I mean it because just so you

could imagine like the idea that a lot of people think oh well please don't lie police this, but listen, I know lots of police that lie. I know lots of police that have lied. I know lots of police that have put people in prison for a long, long time. And prosecutors, prosecutors, they're horrible. They're horrible. Listen, my prosecutor got in front of my federal judge. When I was arrested, my girlfriend, who was ex-military, had purchased a gun, right? The gun had been stolen, but she still had the receipt. When they searched my house, they found the receipt.

They charged me with possession of a gun, basically. It's called obstruction. No, it's called, I forget the charge exactly. It's not that they're saying that I had one, but they're saying I, that somebody I was with had a gun. And I was a felon. So they was, I was charged with like, it's kind of like conspiracy to possess a firearm by a felon. So I got charged with three extra years, with three years for that. I also had had a burglary and I had claimed on my homeowners, you know, I was claiming for, for what they'd stolen. And I was running up the bill.

So I said that they had stolen like a machine gun. an M4, like a, sorry, and whatever, a rifle or shotgun, whatever it was, assault weapon, whatever you want to. So I, and I put that in there and that was $1,200. So I was trying to max out the policy. And I just listed it. Now, during my debriefing, I explained to the U.S. attorney that I had never had that weapon. I'd never had, one, the M4 or AR-50, whatever it was. I'd never had that weapon.

That wasn't true. and that the pistol or the gun that they had that they had found the receipt for was my girlfriends and I'd never touched it I'd never seen it and she bought purchased it I said so you have to drop those charges we I end up getting them to drop the charges eventually they dropped the charges at first I I signed for them because I didn't think it was a big deal you know my girl my my lawyer was saying like sign just just do it just do it just sign You know, she just wanted, you know, she just wasn't very much help. But eventually I ended up arguing about it and they dropped the charges.

And I was saying, look, I'll go to trial. Like, you can go talk to my girlfriend. She'll tell you, I never had that gun. We never had a fucking machine gun. We never, or whatever it was I had put down. When my, when the U.S. attorney got in front of the judge, knowing that wasn't true, she told the judge, Mr. Cox had a gun that he never should have had and he had an M4. assault, rifle, or whatever it was, she said that he also knew he never should have possessed.

I mean, she dropped the charges and she knew it wasn't true. She talked to my girlfriend at the time. She told her it wasn't true. Still got up in front of the judge and said it. Now, that's inflammatory. It makes the judge hate you. But really, she just got in front of the judge and blatantly lied. law enforcement lies all the time to get search warrants

prosecutors lie all the time to get warrants that will get in front of the judge and blatantly lie they'll stack the case against you they'll put people on the stand that that will lie against you so my what I'm saying is do I believe is it possible that this is all it's all being manufactured you know that's very possible and i think that that is impartial i don't know that it's not true this guy may go to trial and he may get found guilty he may end up doing 10 years

in a romanian prison which would be hell and as far as his stuff getting um as far as his stuff getting taken you know look they can seize your stuff and then you go and you have to kind of prove they'll seize your stuff that you go and prove look i made that money legitimate here's how I made it here's you know and then they have to give you the stuff back that happens like that happens all the time that a lot of times what they do is they start seizing your stuff part of that's just a scare tactic yeah they're just doing it to scare you let you know how bad things oh we're already selling your stuff like it's a done deal but but his lawyer but his lawyer is saying look she's saying look you know fight the charges

like this is this is all BS like this is all trumped up it's not true and they can't sustain these charges and you know so i'm assuming tate's going to fight this in court possibly and i know there's the have you seen anything on the vice documentary coming out like have you i know they had the little series about or not the series but the teaser of the girl coming forth um like right right after we did that last podcast say nobody's came forth yet um and they're supposed to release the full the full one in like two to three days right on friday and And I have seen some clips on YouTube of, like, the editing, they're, like, editing different reactions into some of the interviews. And the whole time, like, Tate and them know that they're being, like, that VICE is making a documentary, like, a hit piece on them.

Like, they have the guy who's, like, constructing the interview on their podcast or whatever they do. Have you seen those clips? Yeah. Yeah. And then, like, the guy sitting in between them and, like, Tate or the Andrew doesn't care and the other brothers, like, doesn't like, doesn't like to. guy yeah they're going back and forth and he he's kind of loading the questions and i i i i don't you know as far as like you know first of all i don't like vice i mean you know i mean i know you i told you know i know some things yeah i don't know how much you could talk about it all but yes

oh man i could talk forever about i i really got screwed over by vice um ultimately do you know that right like they they took that case i know i know a little bit i know a little bit like Yeah, I mean, I was dealing with a production company. Like, Vice doesn't actually do their own stuff, by the way. It's kind of like Netflix. Like they'll say, it's a Netflix production. No, it's not really. Netflix hired a production company or a production company came to Netflix and said,

we want to do something. Well, you put up the money and Netflix puts up the money. And then they go out and they do this whole production. Then they bring it, Netflix airs it, right? They stream it. So, and then Netflix called it Netflix production, but Netflix didn't do it. It was really done by. you know, wise productions or, you know, a red dog, you know, studios or whatever.

Who does a lot of them? Blum House, that sort of thing. So, you know, I had a, I had a production company that does it, they do, there's a production company, they do stuff for vice. And they, they produced the, they produced the series. I was a teen felon. So they contacted me. and they said look they wanted to talk to john boziac which was a story i had written right

i wrote boziac um with boziac we i wrote his um his memoir it's a true crime story so i mean for those people that don't know like i write true crime stories right like i've i've gotten stuff in rolling stone magazine i've i've optioned several several stories i've written gosh i've written like eight books so i they wanted boziac story because he was a teenager when he was doing a lot of crime and it carried on until hit to his adult to adulthood and i was like yeah and they'd read his story they said we definitely want to we would love them to talk to this guy and i said now i said i've already optioned his life rights you can't can't talk to him we've already got a a deal with a with a production company for a like a long series for a a multi-series a

documentary so they said and i said what are you looking for and they told me what they were looking for i said listen i got another guy and his name is jacob diaz so you can talk to to Jacob Diaz. So I contact Jacob Diaz. I put them in contact with Jacob Diaz and I, and they say, look, I mean, obviously, you've, you're, you've obviously read my story. I wrote on him. They were like, right.

I said, well, that's your whole series. That's your whole, your whole episode. And they said, what do you want? I said, well, I mean, I want 20 grand. I want an, I want an, I want an, uh, executive producer credit. I've written, I've done, I've written your whole episode. Yeah. It came back and she said, look, we could probably give you 10 grand.

I could probably do 10 grand. I said, look, well, 10 grand. I said, that's, that's, I'm good with 10. And she said, okay, let me talk to him, see if he's willing to do it. I need to talk to him, make sure he's, he's okay with being interviewed. I said, yeah, no problem. So she contacted him. I didn't hear from her.

Then I contacted her like two weeks later. I said, hey, did you ever, did you, what happened? And she said, oh, yeah, I sent him something, but I haven't heard back. And she sent me a copy of the letter. She said, but I haven't spoken with him yet. Then a couple weeks later, a month or so later, I sent her, I called her. No answer left a voicemail. Didn't hear from her. Then I tried to call Jacob Diaz and him an email. Didn't hear from him, which was weird.

Yeah. Six to eight months later, which is actually a very quick turnaround time, by the way. Six to eight months later, a friend of mine from prison, I'm talking to him on the phone. He said, hey, by the way, I just saw the Jacob Diaz story on Vice. I go, what? He goes, yeah. He said, and I'm, my story was called the unlikely narco he goes yeah bro he said i just saw it he said it was called the it's called the cartel kid i went on vices website sure enough complete interview my story a really hatch jab hatch job of my story like a really they really brutalized the story wasn't nearly as

good but then again my story was probably 10 000 words they can maybe put 3 000 words on screen so for in roughly 40 minutes yeah so you know they did what they could uh anyway i immediately contact the producer i leave a voicemail i go on danny's show on concrete i bitch and moan about it they contact me like the next day a lawyer contacts me i get on the phone with the lawyer i start going back and forth uh they end up i tell them look you know this is she said well look we gave you a credit at the very end they did give me a credit they gave me a a consulting producer credit i didn't even know what that is it's made up anyway and i so i argue with her and i said listen here here's the best bet your best bet i tell her i said look i've sued i've sued

warner brother i've sued um i e entertainment you know i'm like look you're not going to steal from me like you're going to give me something so come up with a figure probably a couple days later she sends me this figure and I can't say what it is I signed something she said look how about this now it wasn't what I wanted but it was a nice little chunk of change and you know I signed I signed the paper and they cut me a check a couple days later and you know that's what it is but you know they're all snakes bro they're all snakes so vice I don't trust vice is they're horrible they're they're completely it's just a gossip channel like it's it's garbage so i don't trust vice i think i think you know they're looking for sensationalism

they want that whole thing to be true you know and like i said maybe maybe it is true but i don't i don't see it it's it's a battle for attention everybody's just trying to battle for to to make the headlines really i know we talked a little bit about about before we started recording was like the the whole andrew tate going to hospital for his uh a lung nojule or something something with their chest um i just i thought it was interesting on one article that i read is saying that he was requesting to go to the hospital and when they took him you know his media team's tweeting for them and running some of their social media pages right uh this this this YouTuber sneako is like you know there's a couple

big streamers big YouTubers that are like close with tape or close you know they're always like reporting on them stuff and he was reading the message from the media team from Andrew Tate saying like please like make the world care about Andrew Tate's health let them know like to you know like spread the message so so they're pulling strings on their end trying to you know rally the troops and yeah they're everywhere it's funny though um got I mean the problem with all my all my stories is they're very Andrew Tate right now yeah like hey it's all the stuff like it it might all be true I don't know yeah um but like I'll put it it this way uh now he's got he's asthmatic right like tates got asthma yeah that's one of the things

he has there was a guy that went that was transferred to coleman uh coleman was a prison i was at so he was transferred and he got there like i don't know two or three by the time they process him he gets on the yard two or three he's in the unit he goes to the officer and he says listen i'm i have asthma I need my inhaler. They didn't give me my inhaler. Like I was supposed to pick it up at medical. And he says, look, you can go to medical after count. Now the officer knows that medical's closed after count. You know, but he doesn't want to deal. He didn't have to have to make the phone call. You know, the officers are garbage. Yeah. And he probably thinks that the asthma thing isn't that big of a deal. Right. Like a lot of people have asthma and it's not super severe. this guy's super severe this guy's like look i'm under a lot of stress i've been moved i haven't taken it all day it's a big deal that yeah yeah yeah you're going to be counted at four o'clock i'll send you over there after it so at four at four o'clock they do count and it shift change so the next officer comes in next officer says when they release us you can go over there

well by the time they release you it's closed like they close it basically four they call he's calling the um he goes and tries to talk to the lieutenant the lieutenant's like they're gone i don't know what to tell you he's like no you don't understand this is a big deal this is a big deal he's freaking out he tells him he's if he doesn't calm down he's gonna throw him in the shoe this guy's freaking out he's calling he's trying to call his family he's telling everybody about it he's he's he's he's horrified so he ends up going to bed they tell him it'll be fine calm down he goes to bed he wakes up the next day he's dead he had an asthmatic attack in the middle of the night and he died I don't know how bad

Andrew tates is but I wouldn't want to be in prison and need my inhaler yeah so is it serious you know maybe maybe he's got light asthma he just needs to you know take a few breaths and calm down it won't be that bad you know but it could be um what was uh what was the other thing uh we were gonna so there so it was the lawyer we covered that um there was the vice interview coming out you know some things that You know, that just released after the podcast, we could cover that. The assets being seized and the girlfriend defending him, that's the majority of it. I mean, they're supposed to be, I don't know if it's still standing with him being in the hospital,

but there was supposed to be like, you know, a rehearing or whatever it's called where, you know, on January 10th, he's supposed to find out if he's going to stay in there for the full 30 days. Yeah, yeah, they're trying to get him out, right? Yeah. I don't know if that's still, still in fact now that he's, you know, seeking medical attention or that's going to get delayed. and the next thing is just the vice the vice interview coming out you know basically Thursday night midnight Friday morning so yeah the vice interview you know it's so funny you know how many times the media has come out with these things and then the guy ends up

being innocent they sue them and they have to pay them five million dollars or something ridiculous like it's it's but hey maybe you know maybe it's absolutely true what what kills me about the women. And, you know, these women may be, you know, maybe they're, maybe it's true. But it keeps, I keep jumping back to, do you remember the, the high school football player that got, and this isn't the only guy. There's dozens of these guys. It was a big case where it was a high school football player. And there was a girl that said he, he raped her on school grounds he raped her she went she completely went said he raped me he this he that whole thing um he gets arrested he goes to trial because he says i did not arrest i did not rape her

uh i think he said he didn't even have sex with her and um he ends up losing a trial and he gets like 10 or 12 years i think he did five or six years maybe maybe seven or eight years i forget how much how much time he did he gets out and she hits him up now keep in mind this guy's now registered sex offender oh he he also he had like a high school he had a scholarship to some um he had a scholarship to some university like he's he's a big time big time like a football player yeah she hits him up on facebook finds out he's out hits him up on Facebook, they start talking. She tells him while they're talking, he says, look, why did this happen? Like, why did you do that? Why? And she says, look, she says, you know, I'm sorry,

I shouldn't have, but, you know, I figured we could sue. There had been another case where a girl had been sexually you know molested or raped by a student or a teacher something along those lines but it wasn't on school grounds so she said i knew that if i said something happened to me on school grounds we could sue and they got like two and a half million dollars in a settlement from like the school board or something yeah school board so he he chums up to her like hey it's not a big deal it's over now it's fine he invites her over sets up a hidden camera and video records her she says it all over again he talks to and she's like what do you want to talk about he's like i just don't understand why you did that like so i don't understand so why did you

so you set it i don't understand why you first why did you even say that i raped you on school ground she says it all over again whole thing he takes it to the police you know what the police did nothing statute of limitations is up we can't charge her um you know now if it'd been a man they'd have found something to charge him with but they didn't charge her they do end up expunging his record he ended up getting some kind of a some kind of a scholarship or something or he got several play several he got to do several tryouts with several teams or something I forget how it ended up, ended up. But that's one case.

There's a bunch of other cases just like that where, you know, somebody gets accused. They then go to trial. They say, I didn't do this. You know, I knew a guy in prison who was in prison. And he said, he's like, yeah, he said, he had a girl that he said that we'd actually, you know, he'd actually gone on several days with her. He said, we had sex. He said, and then like two days later, she said that I forced myself on her. He ended up taking a, he said, I took a plea.

of like sexual battery or something. He said, because I was gonna go to trial. They got all the way up to the trial. And they said, we'll reduce it to sexual battery. And he said, okay, I'll take it. He said, because I was terrified. I was scared to death. He said, she's gonna get on there and start crying.

Like I've seen people go to jail before for, he's like, you know, and I didn't do anything, but then again, I know it's my word against her word. And that's what it looks like it's coming down to with the tape thing. The problem is he's made such an ass out of it. of himself by being so overwhelmingly crass about his delivery of his his you know message yeah that seems to me like he's given enough he has given them enough to hang him with yeah i think it seems like he's almost dug his own hole yeah yeah like i said i like i said not 80% of his

message like i kind of agree with some of the stuff i think it's cringe but you know some of it's just over the top yeah and he well he i've seen different interviews of him talking about how like there's two ways to say things and he's like i'm going to say it the more negative way you know what i mean to to pull those reactions to right to get that uh get those clicks and those hits so yeah he wants that he wants that attention well that that attention's coming back on him yeah but he's got he's got why just survive back to school when you can thrive by creating a space that does it all for you no matter the size Whether you're taking over your parents' basement or moving to campus,

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Well, listen, I guess, you know, only time we'll tell. We'll see what happened, right? Yeah. What do you, what do you, I mean, you know, the problem is no matter what prediction you make right now, in two weeks from now, something else will come out. Yeah. I mean, three months from now when he's going to trial, or six months when he's going to trial, oh, dude, I didn't tell you about the guy.

Which one? But the guy that, the lawyer that contacted me from Romania. I was contacting a lawyer trying, or go ahead. I don't know. No, this is a guy. He's not, so he's got a law degree. So he's a computer engineer. I think he said he was a computer engineer.

He works as a computer engineer. And he also works as a lawyer. He got his law degree like five years ago. I want to say in 2017. Yeah. He said, and this is strange. He said he didn't pass the bar, but he does. practice law and I went he didn't he said they have an equivalent to the bar in

Romania and he said now he said there are ways around it if there's like a third I forget how he said it but it's almost like friends and family you can represent but you can't charge like you can represent people but you can't charge them he said so I have actually been to court several times and I have represented several people is that I know the legal the legal system here very well well i asked him if he would be on the program but he said and at first of why i asked him because he writes very well yeah and i said do you write do you speak as well as you write and he came back i was hoping he did because listen his writing was better than most better than most um americans

that write me i mean correct capitalization punctuation sentence structure paragraphs i mean he did very well and he came back he said unfortunately he said i write way better than i speak He said, I would come off like a, like a Russian mobster. Like my, my English is extremely choppy. He said, so I don't think I could be on your program. Because I was saying, hey, let's do an interview. Well, let's talk about it. Now, his take on the Romanian system and what he's,

the reason he contacted me, he said that he'd watch a video of, of ours. He'd also watch one on Valuetainment. He did not like the way Patrick Bet David. on on value tainment had talked about romania he said he spoke very negatively he said i see he said you seem much more fair about your um you know your understanding of romania he said and your understanding of romania he said you also made it clear that that's also 20 years ago and he said in 20 years ago you were spot on he said the mob was everywhere corruption was everywhere he He said now, because they're a part of the EU, he said, it's way different.

He said there's been a real crackdown on corruption. He said that the prosecutor and the investigating team that looked into Andrew Tate, he said they, some of the biggest, they've had some of the biggest cases out there. He said they've got, they, he said they have like a, forget what he said, It was basically like a, their conviction rate is extremely high. He said if they've arrested him, they feel they've got a very strong case. He said it where I had, remember I had said that like in the state, they would arrest you and then investigate. Yeah.

He said, he said that the people that arrested Andrew Tate were the equivalent of the FBI. It wasn't like a state. He said, and he said, and very much like your FBI, he said, although they certainly don't have the. budget your FBI has he said they they don't just arrest somebody if they haven't already thoroughly investigated them and feel they have the ability to convict them so he was saying it's bad he goes I hope he's not guilty of these charges he said but to be honest with you if they've arrested him he goes they certainly think he is guilty so yeah that was I wish he

he he would have come on i mean he he wrote so well hey maybe i mean maybe he's just i mean i'm sure maybe he's his worst critic maybe we get a quick phone call just to do a little test i mean i think that people would definitely want to hear that side you know what i mean i was reaching out to a romanian lawyer just this morning trying to get somebody because you know they can provide different input than you know someone who doesn't live over there can right right like i had some college kids i had some college kids who actually live over there they have a YouTube channel, they interviewed people just in the streets about, do you think he's guilty, do you think he's guilty, do you think he should have been arrested or whatever, you know.

Right. What did they say? It was mixed. It was a bunch of kids, you know, or, you know, young, young people, mostly young people, and it's like 50-50, you know, people are saying, no, they shouldn't be arrested. And other people are saying, you know, he's this and that, like, he should be locked up. They're glad. So it's just, you know, two sides of spectrum. And, like, some of the friends some of the friends that were sitting together had opposite opinions and like they were like all upset um yeah actually i met i shot them a message to see if they'd want to be on but i don't know if they really would provide too much of a i don't know you know they live in romania they're like they're not from there though um they've been there for a few years they're running the youtube

channel i'll send you the video you know i don't know what what type of uh input they can provide but maybe they could just provide what Romanians think about Andrew Tate. Yeah, that'd be interesting, right? Yeah. That might be. Yeah, so we'll do that. As far as what I think, I mean, I would think you'd probably get eventually convicted of something just from all the sound bites, all the things that he said. You know, I just-

Play well in front of a jury. Yeah, you know. That's the big problem. You've got to go in front of a jury at some point. Yeah. But honestly, sometimes a jury sees, sometimes a jury gets the best, or sometimes a jury just, you know, they get it right and sometimes they get it wrong, but most of the time, they really kind of get it right. Yeah. Yeah. No, we'll see. So he found guilty. We'll see. And then also, maybe the prosecutor's overreached. You remember Casey Anthony?

Yeah, whatever happened, I don't mean, whatever happened here. So Casey Anthony, you know, and I'm sure, you know, look, she was found not guilty. Now, what I think happened and what I think most people think happened was she had used some kind of chloroform to make her daughter go to sleep. So she could go out partying. And I think probably what happened is her daughter ended up dying. if you give someone too much chloroform it'll kill you it's a very it's it's iffy so they tried her and you know there's a lot of there a hose biot was her uh was her her lawyer and uh you know there's a lot of smoke and mirrors and he alluded to the fact that her father had molested her

and all these others all these things yeah um but in the end what happened was they you know it she looked extremely guilty but murder's very hard here's the problem they initially had charged her with like like first degree murder and then um uh uh like manslaughter manslaughter basically first degree murder's like you know look like you you you you killed somebody you know you somebody you did something and they that person died You know, did you plan to do it? Who knows? Is it first or third degree?

One of them is lying in wait. Like you went out of your way to murder this person. Like nobody really said she tried to have her kill or kill her. You know, you wanted her dead. You wanted her. You know, you tried to kill her. So they were saying, look, you killed her. Like you did something to kill her.

But then there's also manslaughter, which is you did something unintentional that led to someone's death. You know, like vehicular manslaughter. Like you got into a car accident and somebody died. And it was your fault. You didn't mean to, but as a result of your action, someone died. That's manslaughter. So they initially, one of the charges was manslaughter. They dropped manslaughter because they only wanted to give the jury the choice of murder.

Like you're either going to let her go free or you're going to convict her of murder. and they felt like there's no way they let her go free they're going to give her the charge of murder the problem is you didn't really prove murder you know that's a pretty high bar and there was a chance that maybe some that her her father may have killed her or that it was complete accident and her father disposed of the body but because because they didn't get the the prosecutor prosecution team overreached and removed manslaughter the jury was unwilling to convict her of murder not guilty yeah found not guilty i remember that name i just i never i was so young when it happened i i never knew what happened

listen that was the only bet i ever made in federal prison that they had a guy going there was a ticket going around with soups and it was like 20 to one you put up one soup you get 20 soups if it's not guilty everything else was like you know two to one four to one and I put up a soup and I won 20 soups only time because I said not guilty I said murder is very hard to prove she's got a great lawyer there he's giving them reasonable doubt and I said and I don't see a jury um finding her a guilty i said plus the truth is i said i say i go oh you don't think she did i said no i think she did it i think she did it i just don't think that they're going to find her guilty

i said and to be honest if i'm wrong what do i do i lose one soup yeah i get 20 and sure enough i got 20 i was one of the few people that actually bet actually ever said everybody was like she's guilty she's guilty so how does that betting work like you got one guy who's like who's who's taking the hit on those 20 soups yeah but how many people how many people had said guilty or guilty of this or guilty, you know, they had different, she had different charges. Yeah, yeah. So all he, that guy obviously collected all those soups and very few people said not guilty. Yeah.

So he paid me. I think it might have been 10 to one. It was high though. It was, it was working. You know, this used to irritate everybody. I used to, and this is, this is kind of an Andrew Tate thing. I used to say, guys were like, yeah, man, she's a piece of garbage. And I'd go, I would say, I'd date her.

She seems like she'd be a lot of fun. She's hot. I think she'd be a lot of fun to hang out. They'd be like, you would date her? I'm like, why, we wouldn't have kids with her? I wouldn't let her watch my kids. Like if we got together and we started dating and then suddenly she said, Matt, I love you and I want to have kids.

I'd be like Casey, Casey, now come on. You know, you can't have kids. You know, we're not doing the kids thing. You know how it worked out. You're not good with kids. But, you know, yeah, we can, you know, so I'm very good with compartmentalizing. you know i i like you you have some friends you go to dinner with but you know you wouldn't lend

a money you know that sort of thing so i'm good with that hey so i appreciate you guys watching and if you like the video do me a favor and hit the subscribe button hit the bell so you get notified of videos just like this plus by the way i do a ton of interviews with criminals and former criminals and maybe current criminals uh also leave me a comment in the comment section share the video and you know listen i try and respond to the bulk of the comments i'm a little bit laxed because there's so many coming in at this point but yeah i really appreciate and i appreciate you watching see you