Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - The End Is Near... (Aliens, Crypto, Trump, AI, & More)

Episode Date: September 11, 2023

The End Is Near... (Aliens, Crypto, Trump, AI, & More) ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 One day, a couple of UFOs come down, and one by one, the UFOs shut down each missile site. Ethereum wasn't on it yet, but I think that that's going to be the biggest cog to fall. I'm coming for you! So Tucker Carlson, he's now making his own show that's exclusively on Twitter. Basically, his first 10-minute video was like, there's evidence of all these aliens coming in and no mainstream media is going to cover it. different types of aliens and the grays and the this and then he has them all categorized and he has all these books and he can tell you all about what really happened in roswell they can also duplicate themselves as humans that you can actually be talking to somebody and not know that
Starting point is 00:00:42 they're reptilian. Aliens started crypto that's why we don't even know who that guy is people were mocked mercilessly if they believed in aliens. It's a scene straight out of the X-files like oh my god at this point right now there are there's damage being done to people that psychiatrists out there aren't even prepared for how that would you be mentally you're visiting your the android of your dead father
Starting point is 00:01:12 on the weekend hey this is Matt Cox I appreciate you guys tuning in I'm going to be doing an interview with Brandon from Green Candle YouTube channel Brandon is here
Starting point is 00:01:29 we're going to be talking about everything we're going to span the spectrum from current events involving uh involving crypto and what's the name of the company?
Starting point is 00:01:42 Binance Binance and a bunch of other ones that I don't really know anything about we're also going to be talking about maybe we're going to talk a little bit about Donald Trump I think that was in there also we're going to talk about aliens and whether aliens
Starting point is 00:01:54 and the alien invasion that's going on right now secretly like on the DL how that's affecting crypto and so yeah it's going to be an interesting an interesting interview that spans the spectrum of
Starting point is 00:02:12 semi-current events so oh and we're going to we're going to talk about Chris Marrero and we're going to play some videos and stuff check it out well let's talk about the comments okay the last time you were here one of the things you had said was that what that biance yeah so i said basically there's a lot of hairy things going on with bynance it was right after f tx fell and i said
Starting point is 00:02:37 the next big player is more than likely going to be binax that's going to fall and they haven't fallen completely but they're basically like not allowed to do any sort of uh business in the United States anymore. Right. And so basically the reasoning behind that is because, I mean, it's basically a giant Ponzi scheme at this point. So what they've done, and like you can kind of prove all this in the backdating things, there's a lot of documents or whatever, but they have their own token similar to FTX. So FTX had this token called FTT. Binance has this token called B&B. It's essentially a crypto exchange just building up their own. It's almost like a stock in a sense. Right. But they got around it earlier because there was no regulations on crypto tokens
Starting point is 00:03:28 in the United States or anywhere, actually. So what's basically been happening is that Binance has bought a bunch of Bitcoin at one point in time. They sold it to prop up basically their own token, basically pump and dump schemes. Right. So they've been doing this with a lot of lot of various tokens. So they bought a website that basically is like the most famous website to like look at exchange volumes on all these different tokens. So they basically controlled the data on all of this. So whenever you go and look up XYZ token, dog coin, poop coin, whatever it is, it shows higher volumes than probably that there is. And it shows that it's a lot of volumes on their finance trading platform. So a lot of hairiness is
Starting point is 00:04:15 been going on with this entire tire platform where they've essentially been inflating things pumping and dump in and now the SEC is kind of just figuring this out and so the main I guess we'll rewind for a second so the main the main aspect of all this is that a lot of crypto tokens have been deemed securities and you know instead of commodities and so what a security is think of it as like a stock right like Apple um invidia i don't know tesla all the kind of big names right now it's backed by at least it's at least backed by a company yeah by something yeah well even if the stock is worth even if you sold off the company and it was only worth 50 bucks for for each stock it's still something you know like
Starting point is 00:05:01 even if the stock's trading at $200 at least if you you can get something out of it's backed by something it's attached to something yeah and so these crypto tokens essentially aren't backed by anything, right? But yeah, believe it or not, except for, you know, or I guess, theoretically, the B&B token was backed by Binance. So you could think of that as buying a stock in finance, right? Like instead of being able to buy a stock in finance, you buy the B&B token. And that's kind of how they've got around all of this aspects of not being a publicly traded company, but getting retail investors to essentially fund their company and fund. the pump and dump schemes that they've been doing well the SEC has now kind of caught on to all this
Starting point is 00:05:46 and they're like hey this is a security like everything that you guys are doing on all these pump and dump schemes is a security so you have to abide by security laws they haven't been doing that no single crypto company or crypto exchange has been doing that so finance basically can't do any single you know um any single uh they can't conduct business in the united states anymore Crypto.com, same thing. But the thing was, because those companies have been kind of doing hairy and nefarious things, they didn't really have a big U.S. user base. But the kicker is Coinbase has.
Starting point is 00:06:24 And Coinbase obviously is like the biggest exchange here in the United States. They've been conducting a lot of these things as well with a lot of these pump and dump schemes. Like Coinbase, some chief executive officers basically have been caught already for some of these pump and dump. schemes like they basically have knowledge right before they list some poop token dog token whatever it is and it's been like some of their execs have been caught basically buying up a bunch of this token and then as soon as it gets listed on coinbase they sell it off because when it gets listed to coinbase they have like you know 30 million users or whatever it is they're like we're going to get a bunch of exposure to this token so obviously it's going to go up let's just sell off and like make a
Starting point is 00:07:07 huge profit. So Coinbase has been doing hairy things this whole time as well. And now they're getting sued by the SEC for like, I think, like $100 million or $10 million. Like a significant amount of money to Coinbase. And, you know, now they're, Coinbase is talking about moving offshore and moving out of the United States because they're claiming that the United States hasn't been clear on regulation when it comes to the crypto industry. Well, in reality, they just been and kind of like basically feeding off of all these people doing these pump and dump schemes trading because how Coinbase makes money, you could think of it as kind of like the Robin Hood model, right? Where like Robin Hood became famous because you could buy a stock at zero trading
Starting point is 00:07:53 fee. Like if Apple's selling their stock for $100, you'll get it at $100. Except for like if you go to Charles Schwab, for example, the way that Charles Schwab would make money previously was like Apple's trading at $100, we'll sell it to you at $110. And so they make that $10 margin spread. Right. That's what Coinbase does is basically they encourage you to buy and trade because they make margins on the spread. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:18 It's like a churning scheme. 100%. And so they've been doing that. So they've been encouraging people to basically do participate in these pump and dump schemes and do what's called a staking where essentially you buy a bunch of XYZ token, you leave it on the platform and will give you a return on that. when in reality like it's kind of like they try to word it as like a dividend of a company but a company makes money a crypto token does not do anything right so essentially like all
Starting point is 00:08:48 these crypto pump and dump schemes have kind of come out and now they're all coming to come into ruse and the SEC is doing this crackdown now and kind of coming at them pretty hard right so what was it did you say it was a bina did you say it was binance yeah that bought the, bought the, they basically bought like this data platform. I think it's not called CoinDesk. I can't think of the name off the top of my head.
Starting point is 00:09:17 I blank in right now. But essentially it's like the biggest, like database. So if you think of like, I don't know, like Robin Hood gets their API from somewhere where essentially just like loads all the data of like the stock prices of everything else.
Starting point is 00:09:31 That essentially comes from like the New York stock exchange or whatever stock exchange, you know, is where you're buying the stocks from. So if it's a Canadian company, like the Toronto Stock Exchange. So there's like kind of like a centralized crypto one that they bought, and now they have the access to all this data, and they put it out for the masses to see.
Starting point is 00:09:52 And they can make themselves look so they can pump up their own. Yeah, I mean, just like follow the incentives there, right? I mean, if the company controls the data and has a place where you can buy and sell all of these things, I mean, and they've been, you know, conducting these. pump and dump schemes inflating their own token you got to think like all right there's they're probably doing something fishy with the data i mean it's not a united states company so we can't like look into all of that but you know i mean when there's smoke there's fire when it comes to a lot of
Starting point is 00:10:22 these crypto companies i mean like ftx had like writing on the wall for a little bit but nobody figured it out and it was a company based in the bahamas and now you know well the guy from binaz figured it out because he dumped all the tokens right yeah well he was funding FTX. So he knew there was an issue. So, I mean, he's the one that basically helped collapse them. Yeah. So he helped collapse them. It was one of their main competitors. He also funded one of their main competitors. So he's like, all right, I want Binance to get a little bit bigger. So I'm going to crash the second biggest exchange there is. You got to admire that. I mean, I have to admire buying that one company. You know what I mean? Like buying the company
Starting point is 00:11:02 saying look this company is letting people know that our stock isn't trading very well or there's not very much volume so why don't we buy that company and we can manipulate it so that it makes it us look like we're doing better than we are like you know I mean I'm not I'm sure I know that's there's an issue there but but yeah I mean I'm not saying he's not smart no I mean but you have to you have to go yeah I mean it makes a lot of sense what he's doing and like yeah of course of course it's wrong but i mean like the problem is is that people keep falling for it you know and you just kind of have like like i say with a lot of these things when it comes to the crypto industry you got to just follow the follow the money follow the incentives like where are these i mean everything
Starting point is 00:11:48 comes down to just money and power like all these people like sam bankman freed was super connected when it came to the white house and all these things and none of the regulation around crypto was really that clear, but somehow Sam Bankman-Fried was able to, you know, just run rampant and go in front of all of these congressmen and whatever and talk about, hey, crypto this, crypto that. And they would rip apart Bitcoin because, you know, really they had no incentive to let that one that's decentralized that they couldn't control and really manipulate run free. And so in a sense, every crypto token is going to be named to security at some point in time. Right now, they came out with a list I think of about 30 and Ethereum wasn't on it yet but I think that that's going
Starting point is 00:12:34 to be you know one that's going to be the biggest cog to fall essentially because you know I mean if you listen to what Gary Gensler said and lined out basically what is a security and you can hear it from the guy that created Ethereum himself he says it himself like all these things like basically just verbatim what Gary Gensler lines out and this is kind of like the video I was referencing to you so Maybe we can play it now and you can see like basically how this guy of Vitalik who created Ethereum lines out exactly what Gary Gensler says is security. And some crypto as securities, which ones do you think of as securities? It's pretty clear in the Supreme Court has actually spoken about this many times.
Starting point is 00:13:19 If somebody is raising money, selling a token, start the ether presale in a couple of weeks. So the ether pre-sale will be an opportunity for anyone to purchase Ether. For Ether is the internal currency inside of the Ethereum system, sort of like the XRP and Rebel. And the buyer is anticipating profits. What we're hoping is that's sort of similar to what happened with MasterCoin. If that slice is something like 20%, and then the value of ether goes up by 5, then we basically have the entire initial BTC that we got all over again. Based on the efforts of that group.
Starting point is 00:13:54 About a hundred people that are working on Ethereum right now Myself leading the protocol design We also have branding teams, we have marketing teams That fits into something that's a security Partially in order to better flesh out the business plan Partially in order to better flesh out the terms Partially for legal reasons I'm coming for you
Starting point is 00:14:19 So like in a sense there Gary Gensler is like So that's Gary Gensler. Right, yeah, yeah. And then the other guy was Vitalik, who is basically like the creator of Ethereum. So you can hear it from his mouth there that he's basically lining out like, hey, we had this presale. We wanted to raise all this money. We're hoping for similar to what happened in this other crypto token, a 20% gain.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And because of that, that's how we're going to raise money. We have 100 people working on this project and all this and that. So in a sense, like this is the reason why I think every single other cryptocurrency is going to be deemed a security and all the other companies similar to Coinbase, similar to Binance, similar to FTX, all the ones that are supporting this kind of crypto ecosystem, they're not going to make it in the US. Maybe they'll be able to figure it out somewhere offshore. But the reason that Bitcoin can make it in the United States is like one, it's fully decentralized. So, you know, You know, there's miners, there's nodes, there's all these different things that, you know, if you wanted to start mining here, you could do that. If you wanted a node here, you could do that with, like, basically, low overhead.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Whereas, and there's no, like, CEO or marketing team or anything like that when it comes to Bitcoin. The guy that created it, basically nobody knows who he is. It's some kind of, I don't know, could be a group of people, could be a man, could be a woman, this guy who went by this internet name, Satoshi Nakamoto, who nobody knows who he is. or she or they or whatever nobody knows and so because there's all these different factors when it
Starting point is 00:16:00 comes to bitcoin and the comparison of bitcoin to all these other crypto tokens you know that there's just like no way that that this could be really stopped in a sense because you could go you could get as much bitcoin as you want you could get it on your computer you could put it on basically this like flash drive and you can carry just like up to like millions and millions of worth of dollars in a flash drive take it wherever you want all over the country all over the world and as long as you memorize this basically what it's called like a seed phrase which is like a password in a sense as long as you memorize that you have access to all this money that you could essentially trade back and forth for goods and services whereas all these other crypto securities they try to say you know
Starting point is 00:16:46 I could put XYZ on some bullshit blockchain and it could do this it could change this it could revolutionize this when in a sense it's you know going to be deemed a security and it's going to go out of style and you're going to get burned and so people keep keep falling for this shit and it's going to continue to happen as long as companies like finance coinbase and others are allowed to run in the united states now the SEC is starting to come through with some regulation and there's been a lot of you know politicians kind of getting in on it as well um you know they had bitcoin miami conference not too long ago. There was three separate presidential candidates there giving a speech. Robert Kennedy Jr. of the Democratic Party, this guy Vivek, I'm not even going to try to pronounce
Starting point is 00:17:33 his last name, but he's in Republican Party. And then there was an independent candidate there that all gave speeches. So no matter what side of the coin you're on, it's going to be something that's on the ballot. Politicians are starting to look at it. Regulators, everybody in the three letter indices in the United States are all starting to look into this. So the crackdown is coming. So the crackdown is coming and it's only a matter of time now where all these companies are going to stop and not be able to operate okay so what what what happened with i mean how i was just thinking what happened with uh sam bankman freed when you were saying i was like well like uh as soon as these guys go start going start one they're obviously they'll well yeah i'll bet you the the bulk of the traffic is from
Starting point is 00:18:18 the united states right so a lot of those companies will probably fail well i No, I mean, like, Binance and FTX had very small United States. Well, where do they care? They don't care. Yeah, they don't care. But most of those companies were like offshore, right? The biggest one is Coinbase. I mean, that's the number one exchange in the United States.
Starting point is 00:18:37 It's publicly traded here. So, but I mean, I think like at the end of the day, that's the company that's going to hurt the most because, you know, I explained a little bit earlier how essentially they made money on that spread. Well, if you don't have like 20,000 tokens. that you can offer. You only have like one or two kind of things that you can offer. Then you're just hoping people just either continually buy and then whatever company offers the lowest amount of spread, that's who people are going to go to buy that said token. So if it's like Bitcoin or something
Starting point is 00:19:06 else. Or, you know, they're going to have to find a new business model, a new way to make money, which I don't know if they can or I don't know if they can't. But I mean, that's basically like all they have left is essentially they're going to have to change their business model and you just have to kind of like I said like look at the incentives when it comes to these things like why offer dog token why offer pepe coin or whatever it is right like I mean people like offer these things just to try to make a bunch of money like right away and they think that there's not going to be consequences at the end and now there's the consequences are coming are coming to the table well I mean I was going to say so far there hasn't been a lot of consequences for anybody
Starting point is 00:19:47 except for unless the company went under and failed completely exactly and And there were charges. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing is like people have like not been able or have not had any sort of consequence at any point in time up until now. And so they don't think it's illegal. They don't they don't understand, you know, what is really going on. But, you know, at the end of the day. What's the Logan Paul thing?
Starting point is 00:20:12 Like, hey, we're going to, we're going to create this thing. We're going to convince everybody to buy it. We're going to pump it up really high. And then we'll sell off our stuff. 100%. Well, that's a pump and dump scheme. No, no, it's, it's totally legal. Like, no, it's not legal.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Even, even you guys sound when they were going back and forth in the text messages, even you guys knew, you even sounded just by based on the way they were covering their statements where it was essentially, they knew what they were doing was wrong. Like, you know, you can say, oh, it's not illegal. Okay, maybe, maybe technically it's not illegal, but it's, you know, it's unethical what you're doing. Yeah. So. Well, I mean, now it's going to be illegal.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Yeah. And like, either they're going to get, you know, find heavily or jail time now for some of these, depending on how severe of a case it is. You know, so, I mean, like, a lot of these companies, like, Sam Bankin-Fried right now, right? He got arrested. He's on, like, house arrest, like, living in his parents, like, mansion in California right now. Ridiculous. It's absolutely insane.
Starting point is 00:21:08 And, like, I think to a certain extent, like, they arrested him because of just, like, the pushback from everybody. But now nobody gives a shit. So, what do they care? He ends up getting five years. Yeah, he'll get either five years or... I can't imagine. Listen, based on the... Or he just gets probation or something.
Starting point is 00:21:29 No, listen, based on the sentencing guidelines, that guy should get 20 years. Yeah. You know, but it'll kill me if he ends up getting some slap on the wrist. I mean, but he's so connected to, like, I have a feeling like he knows something about somebody or something, you know. I doubt that. Matter of fact, I think that being connected is absolutely not going to help him one single bit.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Like all those people you gave money to, if you think that they're going to go to bat for you, man, these are politicians. They will, they'd eat their own young. They don't care. Yeah, that's fair. So they're trying to survive. Like, they're immediately distancing themselves. It's not like there's going to be 30 guys lining up saying, hey, he's a good person. Nobody's coming to your aid.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Yeah. Nobody. Because the fact is, they took that. money thinking it was all legit you know that that's the problem well i don't i don't think i think they knew better well maybe maybe they just thought it wasn't going to catch out with them or they thought if it does catch out with them i'll say look he's the fall guy thought it was a legit company yeah you know well i think yeah i think i think you're right in a sense but they're like you know if we have if we have to make an example of somebody this who we're going to do it of yeah yeah you know like
Starting point is 00:22:41 we'll let him live lavish life for whatever it is a few years and then lock them up but i mean i don't know i i think like a lot of these guys are going to be able to get away with it because they're going to have to go in some random jurisdiction like i mean i don't know if like sam bankman freed because of this pumping dump scheme or what if he's going to be able to get off or what because i mean his company was based in the bahamas so right now he's on like house arrest in the united states i don't know how this is all going to really pan out because well and he's he's also already has the upper echelon of that company his girlfriend and a couple of his geeky buddies they're already they've already turned on him like he's done like his his only at this
Starting point is 00:23:23 point he's just posturing with attorneys at that you know to try and get the best deal he can like he was delusional and cutting his own throat the whole time he was out anyway giving these talks and trying to explain away everything like man like being rich and smart it you know really didn't do didn't do him any justice as far as really learning how to deal with people. Like he's still thinking,
Starting point is 00:23:50 hey, I'm a rich, smart guy. I can convince everybody in the room is just going to go along with me because in just because in the past they have doesn't mean they're going to continue. Now you've got a bunch of rich lawyers to deal with.
Starting point is 00:24:01 They're not going to just accept your, you know, kind of, I don't want to say, you know, kind of bullshit explanation for everything and just go,
Starting point is 00:24:11 uh, okay. I love the comment. Well, if you don't understand it, then maybe you're just not that smart. Wow. Like some of the things that he's been, he's said on camera,
Starting point is 00:24:22 they're going to use every single arrogant, obnoxious thing that he has said on camera, they will use against him. Yeah, I mean, 100%. And then he went on like some like media kind of spree too. He was on like Twitter spaces and like all this stuff basically saying like, people were getting up there asking him all these questions like, hey, your balance sheet got leaked.
Starting point is 00:24:43 And, like, we can all see the Excel. Like, how did you, like, how did you think that these numbers added up? He's like, I just didn't know. It's like, bro, it's your fucking company. What are you talking about? Like, how do you not know? Like, you're managing all these people's money and you don't, like... QuickBooks said it was okay.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Yeah, I mean, it's like, I don't know. The dude was just playing ignorance and he's like, all right, like, I don't know. People are just going to listen to me because I'm this curly-haired kid and I, like, kind of and fidgety and I'm going to make the appearance that I'm smart when he's just now he's trying to play dumb it's like all right dude like if you can't play dumb and play smart at the same time people are going to read right through that and so I mean that's essentially what's happening so typically you understand it takes about a year to get sentenced even if you go in to say I want to plead guilty you're going to sit in prison you're going to sit in the holdover
Starting point is 00:25:31 marshal's holdover you're going to sit there for about a year so he could drag it out for a couple two three years but but basically it's been close to a year right like hasn't it i think it was like november of last year i want to say right yeah i want to say it was like november so i mean it should be coming up here pretty soon in a year so it things kind of have to happen you know who else just speaking of you know lying conniving pump kind of pump and dump schemes although well manipulation of stock uh you know elizabeth holmes turned herself in. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:26:07 Yeah. When was that today or no? Oh, no. Like a week or so, well, like two weeks ago. Oh, shit. Two weeks ago. As a matter of fact, so there are Jess, sorry, my wife and a friend of mine who does legal work for some women in prison.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Two of the women that he does legal work for were in the prison when she got there. And I'm pretty sure it's Jess's friend. I think one of Jess's, was it Jess's friend? I forget who told me this. Also said, you're not going to believe who showed up here. Like, yeah, yeah, she came in like, you know, like two weeks ago. It's crazy. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Is it Jess or was it something? I forget who told me. Anyway, it was like two different people told me the same thing. She showed up at wherever it was. Just wandered in, you know, to do her 10 or 12 years or whatever it is. Like. Just all the hundred just showed up, huh? That's what kills me.
Starting point is 00:27:04 is that when they, you got sentenced, you got 12 years, and they let you stay out. Like, it's like, listen, man, like that, you know, letting them stay, letting you stay out to fight your case. I get that. But now you're guilty. Yeah. You're guilty and we know you got 10 or 12 years. Like, it's questionable whether or not you're, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not showing up for 12 years in prison. Yeah. Yeah. I'm coming. I mean, who would? Like, I mean, logically. I mean, like, I'm going to, I'm going to risk it. Yeah. I'm going to risk it. Like, there's a good chance I can go with the rest of my life, which, you know, I'm old. So there's, I don't have, I don't have, I don't have to really hide out for too long, you know.
Starting point is 00:27:41 So, you know, you, I'm not showing up for 12 years. Yeah. No, no. But she showed up, which is amazing. She had a, got pregnant a couple times, had a couple kids, thought that was going to help her. Like, all the things that she did while out were so selfish. Yeah. I'm going to have a couple kids and maybe, maybe that'll help me with sympathy.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And I'm going to blame everything on, uh, my ex-boyfriend. And I'm going to, it's like, wow, like no personal response. possibility at all, you know, and talk about selfish. Like, you just had two kids that you knew you were going to be gone for for 10 or 12 years. Like, what are you doing? Yeah, and they're just out on their own, on their own, the entire world. I mean, I mean, granted, she does have a, they have a rich father. I'm sure they'll be well taken care of, but still growing up visiting mommy in prison for the next 12 years. Yeah, I mean, are they going to visit though? I mean, you think? Of course. They'll visit. Their famous mom. Yeah, a famous, right? But I mean, like,
Starting point is 00:28:31 I don't know, the market manipulation isn't just privy to, you know, crypto. No, it's everything. I mean, you've said the biggest, like, name right now in politics, Nancy Pelosi who does it, like her husband, right? I mean, like a couple days ago, her and her husband sold a million dollars worth of Apple stock, and that was what's circulating around Twitter. I was just saying, like, a week before they brought some, the SEC brought a suit or something against Apple or something like that.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Like, you could just watch her, you just trade off of whatever she and her husband and buy and sell. Yeah, there was, I mean, there was like a famous Twitter account called Pelosi Tracker, which would literally just track all of Nancy Pelosi's husband's, uh, trades who basically, you know, you're not supposed to do any sort of insider trading. But I mean, it's not just Nancy Pelosi, like, politicians on both sides of things. Yeah, I love when she gets asked about it, though. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:22 She, you want to talk about defensive. She squirms. She, big time. What are you saying? What are you saying? Don't you think that's a problem? No. No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:29:29 I don't think it's a problem. Yeah. Okay. Okay, you don't feel like that. No, no. Oh, all right, calm down, Nancy, relax. I mean, look at her, like, her and her husband's salaries are like, I don't know, 150 or something like that a year.
Starting point is 00:29:43 It's, like, very minuscule, but they're worth, like, $10 million. $10 million. Are you serious? Look, it's way more than that. Yeah, it is. It is way more than that. I want to see the actual number. I mean, I get it, like, working for a long time, but you live in California, too.
Starting point is 00:29:57 No, look, it's, Paul. Stop. Do you know how fast you were going? I'm going to have to write you a ticket to my new movie, The Naked Gun. Liam Nissan. Buy your tickets now. I get a free Tilly Dog. Not included.
Starting point is 00:30:12 The Naked God. Tickets on sale now. August 1st. Paul Pelosi. Pelosi's worth. Of course, you know, you never know how. A hundred million dollars. Yeah, what the fuck is that?
Starting point is 00:30:25 He's like a professor too, isn't he? Yeah, yeah. And he got attacked too. Wait, his network, net worth as of 2023 is $130 million. I mean, a lot of professors make, you know, tens of millions because, you know, they get grants or whatever, but come on. Stop, I'm fucking with you. They don't make any money.
Starting point is 00:30:46 They're all broke. No, it's all filtered, dude. It's all like, it's all a system, right? I mean, I don't know. We could go down in the fucking rabbit because of professors and the education system too. But like I've always said, man, you follow the incentives. You follow the money. Like, there's going to be some hairy shit going on when it comes from the top down.
Starting point is 00:31:07 And that's how the rich stay rich and the poor fucking stay poor. And that gap just keeps increasing. They use the knowledge. They use everything that they get on the inside. And they just keep growing that wealth while everybody else is like suffering from inflation. But hey, like, you know, we're going to ruse it with like gender studies. You could be all happy. Go by them.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Do all that kind of stuff. It's like, it's fucking ridiculous. It's all a ruse. It's all a facade, right? It's a charade. Yeah. So, yeah. What was it?
Starting point is 00:31:37 Oh, God. Listen, Boziac, he went on a tangent the other day. It was, every, probably every two weeks, he goes on a two-day tangent about how it's all collapsing. It's all coming down. This is a buddy of mine. It's over. It's coming down.
Starting point is 00:31:52 The supply chain is breaking down. The aliens are, no, that's right. It's been aliens recently. has been aliens. Well, did you see it? Did you see the Tucker thing? Yeah. No, wait, the Tucker?
Starting point is 00:32:03 Tucker Carlson. No, it isn't Tucker. I saw the whistleblower guy that came out about four or five days ago. So Tucker Carlson now, because Fox News, that whole thing, like, kind of broke down. He's now making his own show that's exclusively on Twitter. Of course. And basically his first, he had like a 10-minute video. I didn't watch the second one, but basically his first 10-minute video was like,
Starting point is 00:32:24 there's evidence of all these aliens coming into, and no mainstream media. is going to cover it. And he's like, but I am. So he, like, broke up as much. Fox stopped him from doing that one for the last two years. Fox? Like two years, they'd be like, no. Supposedly Fox is looking to sue Tucker saying he's breaching his contract.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Yeah, yeah, because they're saying, we took you off the air, but you're still under contract, so you can't do anything else. Yeah. To me, though, are they still paying him? I don't, I don't know the specifics. They're still paying him. Yeah, I don't know the specifics or anything like that. but I don't know I'd be curious to find out
Starting point is 00:33:00 I mean because I to my understanding they basically just like did not renew his contract and part of the reasoning was like there's some lawsuit and somebody said like hey if you fire
Starting point is 00:33:10 if you fire Tucker Carlson we'll drop the suit which is probably the best thing to happen to him he'll make I mean independent he'll make five times more money yeah and be able to say
Starting point is 00:33:22 whatever insanity he wants to insane yeah say um not that everything he says is insane i'm just saying some of it's over the top well i mean that's what i that's you got to be entertaining right that's what gets the clicks you know what's so funny is you know and then of course fox news is the opposite is the swings the other way um it's so sad you know when i grew up i i you know like they very seldom did news organizations
Starting point is 00:33:53 you know, in the 70s and 80s sway one way. Back then it was like, this is what we know. Good night. Like this is all we've been told. This is all we found out. This is what our investigation. Now they basically get their marching orders from the government.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Oh, yeah. So it's, and it's funny too because when I was locked up, I would, you know, and I would be researching someone or anything. You know, I don't have access to anything.
Starting point is 00:34:20 So I would, of course, send an email to my mom or two, through, you know, friends whose family would look stuff up or through my literary agent. And I would say, hey, supposedly this guy was in a couple articles. Can you pull all the articles? And they'd pull the articles. And a lot of them were very similar. And then what I realized very quickly was typically what happened, 95% of the time what happened was there would be, the U.S.
Starting point is 00:34:47 attorney would come out with a press release. and the following day you would get four or five articles not saying we got this information from the U.S. Attorney's press release just basically
Starting point is 00:35:02 rewriting the exact press release five different people wrote the same, five different reporters wrote the press release over again as if it was gospel. Not having talked to anybody. It's not like you would read this one and find out there was a quote
Starting point is 00:35:17 that they didn't have in the press release. No, no. They'd pull quotes from the, the press release, not from, you know, if the government said, you know, he said this to one of his victims in their press release, that quote would be in all five of the, it was literally verbatim, you know, slightly re, you know, so sometimes they would, they would reword it a little bit. And look, maybe every once in a while, they would add a little bit and sometimes they'd subtract a little bit. But for the most part, if it was a thousand page, a thousand word press
Starting point is 00:35:47 release they were writing 900 or 1100 based exactly on that it was always within the next day or two and you could tell because i had some of these guys that two weeks later they or six months later the guy would take a plea and there'd be another press release and you'd get the same rewritten from that one and you realize right away like so i i would i would always just whenever i would order i'd say hey by the way do me a favor send me the articles and the press release now I started asking for the press release. And, you know, you would see it over and over and over again. And it's the same thing now.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Like as soon as they do a press release and you watch all the channels, did you ever see that thing? It's like the video. Like there's so many videos that they like say the exact same phrasing. And it's not like there's three videos. There's three news channels or three news stations. There's 45 of them. Yeah. All saying that like it.
Starting point is 00:36:45 When you, when I, when I watch that, like the fucking hair on my arms just stood up. And I was like, and yet you'll still have all these people out there that that act like, oh, the government wouldn't lie to us. No, no, all those news organizations are independent. You know what? In Nazi Germany, all of or or even take, say Nazi Germany, let's say, even if you were to say in under. And in Italy, under fascism, under, what I'm going to say, El Ducche. It was the same thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:25 I remember he even has that famous quote where he says, Mussolini. Yeah, Mussolini where he says that the press of Italy is as free as any press within the United, or within the world, provided they say. nothing negative about the government you know and and in in uh nazi germany it was the exact same thing you guys can write about whatever you want you can say nothing negative about the government and here is the here here is the status quo and we're going to release every once in a while we're going to release something and you need to go off of this information
Starting point is 00:38:10 Pierre Rossini, in the 1990s, was a 20-something-year-old Los Angeles-based drug trafficker of ecstasy and ice. He and his associates drove luxury European supercars, lived in Beverly Hills penthouses, and dated Playboy models while dodging federal indictments. Then, two FBI officers with the organized crime drug enforcement task force entered the picture. Dirty agents willing to fix cases. and identify informants. Suddenly, two of Rossini's associates, confidential informants working with federal law enforcement,
Starting point is 00:38:48 or murdered, everyone pointed to Rossini. As his co-defendants prepared for trial, U.S. Attorney Robert Mueller sat down to debrief Racine at Leavenworth Penitentiary, and another story emerged. A tale of FBI corruption and complicity in murder. You see, Pierre Rossini knew something that no one else knew, The truth.
Starting point is 00:39:12 And Robert Mueller and the federal government have been covering it up to this very day. Devil Exposed. A twisted tale of drug trafficking, corruption, and murder in the city of angels. Available on Amazon and Audible. And so they were like, okay, so basically we can do whatever we want as long as we meet these small rules. Yes. Then we won't come in and kill you. Yeah, I mean, it's like basically every big news story, you could see the videos.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Like, you get, it's not just, it's like CNN, Fox, like, no matter what side of the aisle that they're on, they all have the same phrasing about whatever's going on, which is absolutely insane. But, you know, people fall for it still. What about, what about, like, listen, like, and this is funny because I just did a TikTok. Did you see the TikTok? I sent you of Chris Marrero? I haven't watched it yet. I think I put it on the Google Drive. and basically it's um it's uh it's chris merrero which is a guy i met in prison who was that do you know what a sovereign citizen is yeah yeah yeah so he's a sovereign citizen um and
Starting point is 00:40:27 and the like said it all have you i love listen i i love talk about like i i've only done a couple videos with them because you know they don't do do great yeah but i i i love him i because because he's not like most sovereign citizens where they'll get offended if you question them or where he he knows i think he's crazy and so and he'll laugh about it and he's like he's like oh well you can laugh but anyway and he just keeps going uh he dr stephen greer he went story after story and i said yeah this is it i'll give you one those it was a colonel robert Salas. He was controlling Minuteman missiles. He had ten of them and he was in charge of these things. And one day a couple of UFOs come down and one by one, the UFOs shut down
Starting point is 00:41:18 each missile. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, one after another. And man, you can't, you know, that's pretty freaking incredible because they went from there to another place where they had missile silos and they shut those down too. The reason I think the military and what Mr. Greer shows also is that the military now is coming out with, yes, there are UFOs because they have reverse engineered enough that they can now bring them forward as the enemy and say, well, we need more funding Congress. We've got another enemy to fight. And that's what's going to happen next. He's great. But he, the whole time I was locked up, he basically believes in every conspiracy out there, right? And he would talk about aliens and the different types of aliens.
Starting point is 00:42:03 and the grays and the this and then he has them all categorized and he has all these books and he can tell you all about what really happened in Ross well what really happened here and how Harry Truman did this and had an agreement with this
Starting point is 00:42:17 and how there's a shadow government going on behind the scenes that controls all these things and there's already a one world order all of this is just we're all just it's puppets just to keep us busy while they're really running everything and he's got a whole thing and what's funny about this is this
Starting point is 00:42:33 he has this whole concept of aliens really running everything and yet he also believes in the Bible. He'll explain like, I'm like, well, how do you, I don't understand you all, you're also very religious. Well, of course. And then he's got a way that it all kind of dovetails in together. It's straight insanity. But I just did a TikTok with him.
Starting point is 00:43:00 So anyway, Bozac was going on and on, right, about. how this whistleblower came out three or four days ago talking about how he was basically on these these um part of these committees and he knows the people and people have talked to him and he's like I got proof and I have evidence and there's this even though he didn't show him any evidence um he talks about how how all what's what he says is really happening and he's apparently he's got security clearance and he's like a legit guy yeah so what's so funny about that is that do you know how much time and significant amount of joy I took
Starting point is 00:43:36 mocking Chris and then four five no wait yeah like no like three or four years ago all those Navy pilots came out with the videos of these UFO things shooting all over
Starting point is 00:43:52 the place and going here and following it and they're talking like oh my God and they're tracking them and trying to catch them and then it wasn't just that group it's another group And then the other country started coming out slowly. And I was like, at this point, something's up. Something's happening. I mean, I don't know whether it's UFOs.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I'm not exactly sure what it is, mostly because I don't want to sound crazy. But I, you know, and I'm watching it. And it's like, this is insane. So I was talking to Chris and I was like, this, you know, Chris, I'm starting almost feel bad for picking on you so fucking much. He's like, I told you, I told you. Anyway, I did a TikTok the other day, and while I was doing the TikTok, I realized that at the end of the TikTok, he basically, I said, well, why now? Why is it now? He goes, well, the government now is willing to come out and talk about all of this.
Starting point is 00:44:52 And the military is willing to say these things exist and we see these things because he says, at this point, we've captured enough of their crafts. we've reverse engineered enough of the technology that we now have enough of their technology that we could theoretically defend ourselves against them and as a result the military is now going to admit look this is a real thing there are really our aliens and we need to prepare ourselves for an invasion or whatever we need funding so they can go to Congress and get tons of money for more and that they had to slowly acclimate the the citizenry of the world to the idea that we're not alone
Starting point is 00:45:41 and that they figured that was going to take about 50 to 80 years or whatever since whenever Roswell was 49 50 something and that since that time that they've slowly been acclimating the humans to the understanding that there really are aliens because they thought if they initially told us about it that people would go nuts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Well, I mean, that's fair. I mean, I honestly, I don't know if I agree with all of it, but I do agree with like there's a sense of timing of events, right, that they're kind of maybe conditioning people or conditioning the American people to say like, all right, I don't know, like maybe it's like the war in Russia and Ukraine, right? Like, we're not going to act like it's as bad as it is or something like that. And instead, here's aliens or the economy is going to crash probably sometime soon. So maybe instead of that crash, it's.
Starting point is 00:46:30 it's not as bad you know we have aliens or something they're going to use it as some sort of distraction in my opinion opposed to maybe like all right they're going to come and attack us but i mean they could be like yeah say like hey we need a bunch more government funding give us more taxpayer dollars i mean i don't think that that's like out of the out of the blue they try everything they can to get it give us to be i guess more willing to give them more taxpayer money right i mean yes but I the insanity first of all I don't believe that this is going off the deep end and I know that so but the idea and this is funny because I always I mentioned this to every time I talk to anybody about stuff like this the idea that you could travel across the galaxy or universe or whatever and come here. here is is so outrageous means that you technically have to have you are so um technically superior to us that the idea of coming here at all like first of all there's no reason to
Starting point is 00:47:41 earth like yeah people like oh well water what do you talk about water water water's everywhere water is super abundant in the universe it's everywhere uh well our planet are you kidding me these guys get first of all you could terraform any planet if you can travel that distance well okay well then they need food food what are you talking about food they've got energy they've got energy beaten yeah okay like if if you people don't understand how difficult it would be and that the amount of technology you would have to have in order to travel the distances required to get here and then the idea that i mean the fact is is if they wanted to say oh we want to take your planet you know what they do they pull into earth orbit they sprinkle some pixie dust and it'd kill every living
Starting point is 00:48:23 organism on the planet that they wanted if they said you know what just humans okay let's go ahead put this DNA sequence in to these nanobytes and all right let's wait about 20 minutes it'll all be dead and then we'd all be dead I mean it would be that simple people like oh no they would have no they wouldn't no I mean I mean if they could travel and they're at some other planet and we haven't found them yet they're definitely superior like I don't know just mentally or whatever kind of capacity you want to say so why come that's what I agree with you Zoo animals? Yeah, I don't really have an idea why they would come here.
Starting point is 00:48:57 But, I mean, I also think it would be ignorant to think that we're the only, like, living beings out there as big as... I don't think that. I don't think that we're the only living beings. I mean, I know there, but just mathematically, there are, you know, hundreds of millions of other life forms out there. This went totally off... Yeah, well, I mean, I think, like, I don't know, for me, like...
Starting point is 00:49:21 Do aliens buy crypto? Yeah. Really? See? No, I think everything's like created like are like brought to light and it's all about timing. And I think that like the high up officials, all the people in power,
Starting point is 00:49:34 they understand that. So I mean, the Wells notice of Coinbase was issued like two or three months ago. I thought you were talking about Aigley. I know. I fucking. I fucking. They're prepping us for the alien.
Starting point is 00:49:47 There we go. I bring it back. I got my own podcast. I do this. I'll bet you aliens started crypto. That's why we don't even know who that guy is. It could be. The guy who started Bitcoin, we don't know because it was an alien because they need money to raise money.
Starting point is 00:50:03 There is a fucking theory out there that people think that the guy who created Bitcoin is like a Fed or like somebody inside the government. And it's basically a giant ruse. It's the launder money for their secret CIA. Who knows? Who fucking knows? I don't know. But everybody's bought into it now, apparently. and that's a that's a theory but i mean like i think like everything is you know generally about timing when
Starting point is 00:50:27 it comes to some of these big events so it's not whether it's aliens or you know this crackdown so my theory is right now that federal reserves raising interest rates at a rapid pace there's there's like going to be another meeting on i think what let's say the ninth i think it's on like the 14th or 15 so sometime next week the fed will probably i think there's like a 30% chance they're going to raise by 25 basis points So they're kind of continuing this raise of interest rates. My theory is that they're going to crack down on all these crypto companies because once they start that pivot and they start to, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:03 bring down interest rates, money becomes cheaper. They don't want basically all these people to start phomowing into all these crypto tokens and start making a lot of money like they were before. So to kind of wrap it all up, I think the timing is, is basically they want the economy to start doing better, but they don't want this like basically like poor and like lower class people to start fomowing into crypto and somehow making like a crypto millionaire out of some poopy dog token poopy dog token hey I mean there's a that that has made people millionaires there's the
Starting point is 00:51:40 most recent ones pepe i don't know if you've seen this like meme on the internet but it's this stupid frog guy and they named a token called pepe token and basically Basically, it's like a giant meme. And like people have bought a bunch of this token and same shit, different toilet. You know, wow. You like that? So the, I was going to say, you know, in the 80s,
Starting point is 00:52:02 like when I, well, yeah, I was so, I was in high school in the 80s. So in the 80s, you understand, interest rates were like 12, 14, 15%, you know, 11%. So it's funny because I, somebody said the other day that they were like, Like, man, well, how much more can they raise them? A lot.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Yeah. Like, raise those interest rates a lot. I know. Well, I mean, like, people like, I mean, especially like kids my age, I think that the whole zero rate interest environment that we had from that decade of like 2010 to 2020. It's acceptable. Or, yeah. It makes sense.
Starting point is 00:52:35 But it doesn't. I mean, that's why you get FTX. That's why you get all these bullshit ass companies that don't make anything. And, you know, when money's cheap and free, basically, stupid ideas can make money. Right. and so i mean that's basically like the revolving door that we're going to keep going in because you know powell's going to become under a lot of pressure here in the next like year and a half because an election's coming up so you know the party that's in power the democratic party's
Starting point is 00:53:01 not going to want a you know a bad economy going into an election they're going to want to see it start to turn around so they're going to have a pivot in the next year or so and they're going to want it they're going to be like hey look we're turning around this economy and you know what the Biden administration's been doing is basically blaming Trump for this bad economy that we're in when it doesn't really make any sense and so you know they're going to be like
Starting point is 00:53:27 hey we're starting to turn it around so because we're starting to turn it around you should reelect us. Don't, yeah. Don't change horses midstream. Yeah, exactly. Or they'll get deeper into the war with the Russia and Ukraine and be like, hey, we shouldn't trade.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I mean, honestly, isn't like a war typically like they rally around the chief not in this case Yeah This is His guy's numbers Couldn't get any worse I know
Starting point is 00:53:51 Exactly It's like 60% of your own parties Say and don't run Yeah Yeah we'll see I don't know It'll be an interesting Next year and I have to say the very least
Starting point is 00:54:03 So yeah I'm You know the saddest thing about this whole conversation Is how much more interested I am in talking about aliens than I am I mean I get it though I mean there's like
Starting point is 00:54:20 the alien shit though is like I don't know when you think about that it's like it's almost like it's like sports or whatever it's like an escape right because like people have been talking about aliens
Starting point is 00:54:32 for you know since like what the 40s or whatever yeah I understand you don't seem to understand the difference here when I when I hate saying this when I was your age
Starting point is 00:54:43 when I was in my 20s and 30s, or even my 40s, if you were a pilot, and you saw something funky, you don't mention it. People were mocked mercilessly if they believed in aliens. You can turn on the news. You can turn on CNN and Fox News, and they're talking about aliens the way they would talk about any normality.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I mean, just completely normal. Like, they're talking about, you know, the bucks being in the Super Bowl. Or they're talking about... Well, the aliens are doing the halftime show. I mean, I'm seriously, they just talking about like, like, like, it's nothing.
Starting point is 00:55:31 They don't smirk. They don't, like, like, the press, like the White House has press conferences on it, where they discuss it. Now, they don't want to say UFOs. They've changed it. You know that. They don't say UFOs.
Starting point is 00:55:42 they call them like UDAs or something. They've got a new name so it doesn't have the same ridiculous stigma of UFO. They've changed it slightly. Yeah. Just like shell shock isn't called shell shock anymore.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Well, they've changed shark attacks too. Shark encounters. Because it's a bad, it's a negative connotation when you run into a shark. It's like, well, no fucking shit. It's like, I was going to say, that's like it's like slut shaming yeah she really say slut and slut shaming yeah promiscuous
Starting point is 00:56:20 shaming maybe but um yeah but i'm just saying that they that you're you're watching the news like i'm like okay these are normal newscasters having a conversation about aliens like it's nothing like this isn't like i don't know that's what gets the eyeballs though right it's it sparks the curiosity normal it's like normal to talk about it as if it's a normal thing and Nobody's screaming. It's like to me, did you see the movie? And I always saw parts of the movie where there's an asteroid like coming toward the earth.
Starting point is 00:56:51 It's called a don't look up. No, and there's like, yeah. So there's like an asteroid or something coming toward the earth and it's over. Like it's over. Do you understand like in like we've got like four weeks and it's over? And they're trying to explain it to the president and to people in the government.
Starting point is 00:57:07 And they're like, okay, okay. So I hear what you're saying. So all right. Well, let's not use the word. over. Let's say, and they're like, no, you, like, they're trying to like, like, they can manipulate the situation. It's like, don't you understand we're dead in six weeks? Yeah. And they're like, so what is the percentage that that would happen? Like, what, let's, let's lower expectations here. I mean, it's completely like, they're delusional. Yeah, I mean, that's how all
Starting point is 00:57:34 this is like fabricated, right? I mean, the narrative is all fabricated. That's what we've been going over this whole time basically. People are calling 911 because aliens are crashing in their backyards. Like that's a thing that happened the other day. There's like a 911. Did you see that one? This happened like yesterday day before. Some kid like said like those fucking alien
Starting point is 00:57:54 landed in the backyard like a cop was driving and saw the flash over and then there was like a boom. And there was a shock wave and goes there. The kid calls. He's like, listen, this isn't a prank. And I know this sounds crazy. And they play the 911 tape. You haven't seen this?
Starting point is 00:58:10 No, I haven't seen it. It's insane. Listen, we forget about this whole crypto thing. That's over. That's over. We're not talking about that over anymore. Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:58:21 We're going down the alien. Alien, UFO lands 911 tape. Your phone tape has got Mars and an astronaut on. Oh yeah, look at this. Oh, this is it right here. Wait, this is, look. Wait, is this? It's a scene straight out of the X-Files.
Starting point is 00:58:39 A family in Las Vegas insisting something is out there after allegedly having a close encounter of the third kind. I swear to God, this is not a joke. One witness calling 911 after they say an object fell out of the sky and landed in their backyard. They're like nine foot, 10 foot tall. They look like aliens to us. Big eyes. They have big eyes. The mysterious object that fell from the sky.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Even the officers apparently saw that. The green glow of the alleged UFO is seen on this newly released body camera footage. I have butterflies, bro. Evelyn saw a shooting star, then these people say there's aliens in their backyard. So when that 911 call came in, less than an hour later, police were ready to believe it. It was like a big creature. A big creature? Yeah, like a long 10 feet tall.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Because I'm not going to BS you guys. One of my partners said they saw something fall out of the sky too, so that's why I'm kind of curious. Did you see anything land in your backyard? But after a brief investigation of the yard, officers closed the case as unfounded. If those nine-foot beings come back, don't call us, all right? Deal with it yourself. I ain't dealing with that. According to former intelligence officer David Grush, an alien crash landing isn't too far-fetched.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Grush recently turned over documents to Congress, claiming the U.S. government has a vast collection of vehicles that have non-human origin. Andrew Dimburt, ABC News, New York. Listen, what's so funny about that is that, like, to me, like, come on, you guys have camera phones. Yeah. You could have, like, if anything happened, I don't walk around without my phone. phone in my hand. Yeah. So I, I, I, you know.
Starting point is 01:00:10 No, I mean, I get that. But, all right, if the government knew, we had Trump in office from 2016 to 2020, you don't think that guy, with the first opportunity that he got, he would have said some shit. Do you think that they withheld that information from him or what? Donald Trump's take on UFOs. He does say something about it.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Yeah. He does. There's a quote. In classic Trump fashion, I think. Look. Before you leave office, will you let us know if he's, there's aliens. Because this is the only thing I really want to know. I want to know what's going on. Would you ever open up Roswell and let us know what's really going on there?
Starting point is 01:00:44 So many people ask me that question. I know. It sounds almost ridiculous, but it's actually the real question I want to know. It sounds like a cute question, but it's actually, there are millions and millions of people that want to go there, that want to see it. I won't talk to you about what I know about it, but it's very interesting. But Roswell's a very interesting place with a lot of people that would like to know what's going on. So you're saying you may declassify, you'll take it? Well, I'll have to think about that one, right? I'll have to think.
Starting point is 01:01:13 There's another one. There's millions and millions of people. There's one, I want to say, Bozac told me about it. Bozac said there's one where he said, if you knew what I know about aliens, it would blow your mind or something like. He says something ridiculous like that. There's millions and millions of people that ask me about it. he's a bit of an extremist um
Starting point is 01:01:37 he just got indicted what is again what is like i don't know that that's just that probably won't even pass i don't know like i mean that's the way it goes it seems like every six months there's some new charge on him yeah and nothing sticks yeah i love that they raided his office yeah i mean they raided his house he has declassified uh you have classified documents you this you that where uh he's going to be indicted he this and then they find out Biden also has him and then you don't hear anything else about classified documents. Everything
Starting point is 01:02:07 dies out. Shocker. Well, his were differently classified because of the, stop, stop, stop. I mean, it's like all, like, if you don't think like every single politician's out there bending corners and, you know. I don't know why they hate the guy, the guy so much. Probably because he's just like,
Starting point is 01:02:24 I don't know, he's very, I saw him like he, I saw like, I saw some posts the other day. He like called some, I think it was like a Fox News reporter, too. He, like, just bullies people. He called this, like, Fox News reporter. He just called her milk toast online.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Like, what kind of nickname is that? Can I just say, okay, the back to this for a second, the aliens? Do you understand that ABC, this is seven in Chicago or something, it put it out, put out the same thing we talked about a minute ago with the alien. six o'clock or six something seven seven news at seven ABC this one just came out this is what CBS at eight or something another one came out another um eight something look uh was that new york post wait no sorry yeah new york post just did a fucking thing on it ABC news did one another ABC live that like every they're all covering it they would have never go look at koreen john peter i mean they all recycle news stories like anytime one
Starting point is 01:03:36 one thing does a news story you just got to be first and then everybody else is going to follow you and do the same thing i mean that's how people believe they're talking about the whistleblower though like this is the white this is this chick at the white house yeah yeah the ice chief is that going to impact the administration's ability to manage the border in the near term. So look, from what I have got to their retirement, what I can speak to is what we have saved down, go down significantly, and that's because of the plan to, and that's why we have seen. Hold on. The U.S. military has been retrieving craft of non-human origin for at least several decades.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Are we alone? And if we were not, would you even tell us? I would refer that question to the Department of Defense and let them answer that question. I mean, they're not, like, laughing at it. Like, they're taking it seriously. Yeah. They deflect that one. I mean, she's not like, oh, that's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Or, oh, come on, stop. She's like, I would, I mean, if you look at her face, she's like, I would refer you to the Department of Defense on that. It's like, this is like, this is like, there's like Pelosi getting defensive over this dog. I'm telling you it's nuts. They're just deflect, deflect, deflect. Bro, if you look at it, like, there's a ton of stuff on this. It's not going to be slowing down anytime. soon.
Starting point is 01:04:51 No, not until they start landing and it's just like... Oh, no, that's why I think shit's going to hit the fan. Because, like, what is it, what is it like, what is going to distract you from? How is it going to affect crypto? I mean, it's not crypto. I think it's the entire fucking economy. You're going to get down the rabbit hole. The aliens land, you think it's going to affect the...
Starting point is 01:05:11 The crypto goes up or crypto's there? No, I mean, all right, like you already said, like, you showed us a video, right? All right, we got aliens coming. We need to send more money to the government to protect us. we need to do something that they couldn't protect us I know fucking shit they can't they can't do it they can't do much yeah the aliens would be like look if we wanted your shit we didn't take it yeah already this is really this is like they come down they they probably do something they look like a human they get to hang out with us for like it's like
Starting point is 01:05:40 a two-week vacation yeah you know it's like going to it's like going you know you're going to uh China for three weeks or something like I'm and live with like the natives or the you know regular be like a regular Chinese person and you know just where I'm going to live with a family or something or be like an Airbnb in in Europe you're going to go and sleep there and hang out with the family and just visit like some of the local places only as a human yeah that's probably what it is that's what it is it's got to be like a tourist thing and aliens like men in black aliens is a tourist thing no men in black which by the way Chris says there really are men and black that's because that's a real thing they really are men and black that cover these things
Starting point is 01:06:20 Is it actually Will Smith? I know if they wanted to be out, but they could look like Will Smith. Yeah. He's the plant. We got to get Chris. We got to get Chris back. I got to do another one with Chris. Now that there's this new insanity, we can do a whole thing just on aliens.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Although, I'd be honest with, like, the people that watch, they have no interest. Oh, yeah. They have no interest. All they want to hear about is crime, which I get it. But my problem with that is like, it's hard to just book. crime crime crime crime crime you gotta mix it up i mean like i don't know i think like i mean you look at the most successful podcast in the world is like joe rogan i mean he does like i don't know he'll bring on comedians i'll bring on like jiu jitsu like all that kind of shit yeah but i'm you know like
Starting point is 01:07:05 to be honest like i i watch a ton of hit i watch clips but the few times i've watched like an hour or 45 minutes like jo rogan is someone who is truly inquisitive and curious about other people you know like he's like a good host he's like like a good interviewer yeah yeah i'm i'm i'm not i'm just not that good at it like i'll go through i watched one the other day with the guy um uh capo the black kid that was selling guns listen toward the end of that whole video i realized like i could have asked so many more questions I realized, like, he was burglarizing, one of the things he was doing was him and he had him and other guys burglarizing police officers' houses to steal guns.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Because he's like, they've always got guns. Like, they don't have one gun. They have multiple guns. You know, if you find a cop, they can get bunches of stuff out of there. He said, you know, they got them. And he was known for selling guns. He's like, I've got to find guns. He's like, so what do I do is I start robbing cops and then I get out of other guys robbing
Starting point is 01:08:18 cops like I was like okay okay so I was just kind of being entertained yeah and I sometimes forget that it's like yo bro like you're not shooting the shit with somebody like people are watching this and they maybe have other questions so maybe you should have say like how did you figure out where the cops lived did you watch the house for several days did you watch get there like you and it wasn't until the end of the interview when we were shooting the shit about something else that I thought Damn. You fucking, you missed a whole bunch of good questions you could have asked.
Starting point is 01:08:55 And I didn't ask any of those. Rogan would have spent 30 minutes just on that one. It comes with time, dude. I mean, he's like been doing this shit for a while. Yeah, but I mean, I'm just now after like a year or two years of this, I'm now figuring out like maybe I need to start. You know, before, here's the thing. Before when I was doing the interviews, it wasn't that big of a deal because nobody was really watching. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:17 But at this point, like, the videos are getting 15, 20, 30, 40,000 views. Like, I looked back on some videos that we had six months ago that I remember the last time I had looked, the last time I'd looked at those videos, they had 15,000 views and I was like, oh, good. And they were tapering off. Well, then I went back and looked and some of have 35,000, 40, 28,000. And I'm like, to me, after the two months, the videos don't get a ton of views anymore. but that's what my take was but I went back and looked at some of the videos like if it's a decent interview
Starting point is 01:09:54 or a decent thing that they do keep getting views like yeah I mean they all get views they're all gonna get a couple of you're all gonna get four or five views a day but these things are still hammering away they're still getting 50 to 100 views a day and I thought you know you really might want to start taking this more seriously like you might really want to stop
Starting point is 01:10:14 instead of just being entertained by talking talking to somebody he tells you an interesting story, whereas half the time I'm kind of just like I'm watching a movie. Like, okay, well, then what happened? That's the extent of my interviewing skills. Well, then what happened? Uh-huh, uh-huh. And then what happened?
Starting point is 01:10:30 Where now I need to really kind of stop as I need to start thinking to myself, you need to be more inquisitive, you know? I need to do that more. Well, I mean, at least you're thinking about that stuff. Yeah, well, you know, admitting you have a problem as the first step. So, yeah, I mean, but,
Starting point is 01:10:46 Like I said, I mean, you can like mix it up a little bit. I mean, I don't think there's anything really wrong with that. I think, you know, once you start to get your groove or whatever. Yeah, we'll figure out. And then that also leaves room for that guy to come back. Be like, all right, let's dig in to how you basically like dive in a full episode on how you figured out where the cops lived, all that kind of stuff. That'll probably take you like 30 minutes to get through with him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Like you can tell, like tell me specific scenario of all this. Yeah, that's the problem is I didn't, I didn't, you know, what happened was by the time it was a little over an hour, the story was over and I was like, oh, wow, if I had asked those questions, I could have really dragged the story out two hours, you know, and that's a good podcast. To me, a two hour podcast where they're talking about the evolution of someone's crime, you know, or one, their criminal mentality, their background and then the actual crime that we're really here to talk about. If that's a two hours is a good round number, that's a good podcast. cast yeah and a lot of times you know if you just sit there and go right right well that's over in 45 minutes to an hour yeah so i mean i i definitely am going to work on that yeah did you ever address the comments oh yeah the comments yeah the comments said i didn't know anything about ethereum when i said it was a security you guys all saw the video here yeah we did you saw the video he did bear sort of mention it the comments are going to come at me again i know it but i look all right Maybe I don't know the full details of whatever crypto scam you guys are trying to
Starting point is 01:12:20 promote out there, but I know you guys are all full of shit. I know it. Yeah, the comments are, as soon as they say, the comment section is horrible. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think it's like, I don't know. To me, it's like kind of fun in game. So I don't really like, I did read them because you're like, you should go through and just, you know, comment.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Yeah, answer them and do all that kind of stuff. So, you know, I did go through and like, I took some of the criticism. Like, I understand. Like, I didn't explain, you know, as well as I probably could have you know um but you know I think on the on the flip side of things like I think like my general basis of everything like if I get somebody like if I'm talking to you or if I'm talking to my parents or some of you know somebody else who's even my age like who doesn't really want to know about a lot of this stuff it's like you got to speak in a lot of generalities like
Starting point is 01:13:08 I don't want to get too technical with all the things and get like way over your head or whatever and you're just like zoning out so i think in a certain extent like that's what like some people just trust what other people are telling them about these like crypto pump and dump schemes and they just like the sandbanking freeze they get very technical or somebody says like if you don't understand that you're too stupid right and you think you feel bad about yourself you're like all right i'm i guess i'm too stupid to understand what's going on i'll trust this guy who's really smart with his curly hair and eats like a cucumber like a fucking banana right and uh then like that's where you, that's, you know, why you fomo into these stupid fucking pepe coins and whatever.
Starting point is 01:13:49 I'm glad you're not holding a chip on your. They don't have a chip on your shoulder. No, I mean, I mean, yeah, I definitely didn't, uh, I didn't take those to heart at all, you know? They didn't keep me up for three or four days at all. And he pulls out a piece of paper and says, like, this guy here, this didn't bother me at all. Yeah. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah, you get John Doe 69. I know who you fucking are.
Starting point is 01:14:10 what's so funny is you know when you the more of them you read like to me now like there's nothing anybody can say that bothers me at all it doesn't matter what the person says I mean I tend to I do tend to answer the questions
Starting point is 01:14:25 that are more vile but not because I'm hurt or anything it's almost really to get them you know to just fuck with them well yeah and I mean most of the time when you reply to them
Starting point is 01:14:38 they're like oh yeah sorry it's like Oh, yeah, almost, almost, yeah, they almost always back down. Yeah. Or, or, but I, I, it does bother me whenever it's people are like, you don't know what you're talking about when you talk about that. Like, I had this guy one, I, I, I, did I mention this to you about the guy? There was a guy in like California or something. It was like, you can't get, you know, I watched your thing and you're, you know, you're lying and you are a con man because I've been in real estate for 30 years and you can't get four mortgages on a property at the same time. And you can't, they went on and on.
Starting point is 01:15:07 And so I replied to him. Yeah. I said, listen. bro, you know. Look at my case. Yeah, look at my case. This is why they sent me to prison. This is why this.
Starting point is 01:15:16 I'll send you this. I'll send you that. I'll do this. I'll do that. Because there's a lot of things. Like, you just tell me I'm a scumbag piece of garbage. I don't have a problem with. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:15:24 I did it. But if you're going to tell me that I, like, you're now telling me that I didn't do any of the things that sent me to prison. Pretty sure the government disagrees with you. Because I went to prison for exactly this. Yeah. And so for you to say, and the fact that you've been in, you are in real estate for 20 or 30 years,
Starting point is 01:15:45 tells me you don't know anything. Yeah. You know? If you don't know that all this shit can happen. Right. And he goes, I have friends entitled. I go, then you know what? I'm asking you to go talk to them and tell them exactly what you told me.
Starting point is 01:15:58 And I guarantee you they're going to tell you that what I'm saying is true. Came back. Sure enough, he was like, we went back and worked for a couple days. Oh, yeah. He came back and he was like, well, I'd like to apologize. When I'm wrong, I admit I'm wrong. and the whole thing it was like okay cool they all song and dance yeah but i don't get that i don't get why people will get so they they do get so offended and and they they make these these vile comments
Starting point is 01:16:20 that it's because like i don't know it's it's like nobody thinks that this is like i don't know you're an actual human when they see you behind the screen i think i mean you see it now in like sports and everything right like people will just like in like fans will just go in these guys's faces like flip them off tell them to go fuck themselves like all this kind of stuff and then when an NBA player or somebody confronts them it's like a huge story right but the fan immediately backs down yeah because they don't realize yeah it's like they're they think you're simply there for their entertainment and that they own you in some way and they can do whatever they want with you yeah it's not really the case yeah like i saw a video with like Isaiah thomas when he was on
Starting point is 01:16:58 like the Celtics or something he said he shot a free throw he missed the first one he made the second one he's running down the court there's a fan court side giving him the double middle finger yelling at him fuck you you motherfucker and then he like confronts him afterwards he's like why are you being disrespectful he's like yeah sorry man i really wanted a frosty and if you missed both free throws you would have gotten a frosty and so it's like some of these people they just have like no sense of reality when it comes to comes down to these they think there's no consequences you know i mean that's like kind of like revolving it all the way back to crypto it's like when it comes to these pump and dump schemes people think like oh you know
Starting point is 01:17:38 I've been able to do it. I've been able to run rampant for so long. Right. Whatever. The problem is when it catches. It's always the problem. You do. You get emboldened by it.
Starting point is 01:17:47 And then one day when it catches up to you, you go, whoa. Oh, shit. This was wrong? Yeah. Well, no fucking shit, buddy. Look in the mirror. I remember there was a kid in, when I was, this is actually on the run. And I was living in Charlotte.
Starting point is 01:18:02 I think I mentioned this before. There was a kid that had broken into and stolen something like 20 cars. He'd been arrested. like 12 times for stealing cars right and then one day and literally arrested because they were that was a property crime yeah and they didn't they didn't really care about property crimes and he was like whatever he was 17 18 years old he was young he was just he was actually like a juvenile and then one day he went to rob a car in his mind it there wasn't a big difference there was someone in the car he ran up he opened the door and he pulled the person out and jumped in the car
Starting point is 01:18:38 off with it. That's a carjacking. Yeah. And the difference was now you're getting 15 years. Oh, shit. And he was like, I've been arrested 12 times for robbing cars. No, no, no, no. You didn't steal a car. Yeah, that's all I did was steal. No, no. You carjacked someone. You had a gun. You pointed
Starting point is 01:18:58 at someone. You pulled them out of their car. You stole it. Vastly different. It's the difference between breaking in my house when nobody's there, which is invasion of my privacy and it and it's it's extremely um it obviously it's it's it makes you feel uh very much like obviously you are a victim but yeah you know it's it's a personal thing someone breaks in your house which is your you feel safe in your house and it of course it's a it's a very personal thing but the difference between kicking in my front door with a fucking gun put me on
Starting point is 01:19:34 the ground on the ground and robbing my house while i'm there one you burglarize my my house and you get caught, you should probably go to jail for six months to a year. I understand. You kick my door in and you put me on the ground and you have a gun, you should get 20 years. And it's just like, and people that are like, I've burglarized houses. I've done 40 burglars. I've been arrested 10 times. Like I only got like six months and now you guys are going to give me 20 years. Yeah. There was a vast difference between those two crimes. Oh, 100%. Well, there was just that like Netflix documentary that came out about those like kids who were basically going into celebrities homes in Beverly Hills and they did that documentary yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:20:13 yeah yeah the bling yeah the real bling bling bling yeah it was like the bling bling gang or something yeah yeah and they were just like going in there and they're like yeah well we knew that they were gone so we just went in open the back door and it was open and they just fucking stole all these things and then there's a yeah like you said huge difference between doing that and then I mean obviously both are wrong but you know doing that and then when Paris Hilton was actually in the house or like, you know, tying her up or doing some
Starting point is 01:20:38 crazy shit like that. Yeah, they, it's the difference between rob a, you rob a bank with a note and you bring a gun.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Yeah. It's a difference in three years, you know, and getting 10. Yeah. Yeah, that's the,
Starting point is 01:20:52 like, the bling bling gang. They actually hit Paris Hilton like four times or five, like they robbed her,
Starting point is 01:21:02 and she didn't know. Like, because they weren't trashy. They were just, just walking around they were there's she has so much stuff but they'll go and they'd take a purse well she's got 40 purses they take a purse that she almost never uses yeah and like half the times like she got got all that stuff for free yeah she'd take a per and sometimes they'd find
Starting point is 01:21:21 stuff and they'd have a bunch of cash in it yeah so they just take the cash well if she comes home for four days she's not going to necessarily go and go in that drawer where she's got five thousand in cash she's got so much jewelry she doesn't notice when they take some of it maybe she thinks I just lost it. Yeah. There was a story one time where Paris Hilton had gone to a hotel or something
Starting point is 01:21:42 and then left, like left and like got on a plane and everything. And then when they were cleaning out the hotel, like there was a bag with like $20,000 or $30,000 in cash in it. She just forgot it. They contacted her and they were like, hey. And she's like, oh my gosh, I'm so so. Oh gosh, I can't believe of that.
Starting point is 01:22:00 I was like, are you insane? Like how much money? Right. Just like, oh, whoops, forget. Got $30,000. My bad. Average Tuesday. Of course, the way she, you know, I also saw a document around how she made, was making money.
Starting point is 01:22:15 It was insane. Yeah, wasn't she just making money? They would give her, like, I don't know, like a purse or some top or something like that. Just go to a club, get pictured in it, and then we'll give you the clothes. She would get, like, she had a whole thing where it's like, look, if I show up, show up at the club, it's like $50,000 for me to show up or $100. The amount was outrageous. Like, show, if I show up, I walk in the front, I hang out for 30 minutes, I leave out the back. Nobody knows I've left yet.
Starting point is 01:22:44 So people, you could say that I was there all night. Or if I go there and I stay for this amount of time and get this many photos, you charge, I charge $100,000. Like, she had a whole thing. And she's literally going to like four clubs a night. Doing the same shit. Yeah, she's scheduling. So I'm hitting these three. That takes about two and a half hour.
Starting point is 01:23:04 This one I stay the whole night. That's $350,000 I just made on Friday. And drinking. Yeah. And she's not paying for anything. Yeah. And she's walking away with X amount of dollars. I mean, it's insane.
Starting point is 01:23:18 And she's doing this. This went on for almost a decade. Yeah. The amount of money that she was making by being somebody who's not talented. She's just famous for being famous. Yeah. I mean, that's the cart. She's because she's a Hilton.
Starting point is 01:23:34 I said, don't that her parents, like, own the hotel chain? They are part owner in, like, the whole, I don't think they're complete owners anymore, but the names on it. Yeah. But they're partial owners of the, the Hilton hotels. And she was just one of the rich celebrity kids. And she ended up doing a TV show called, do you remember the name of that TV show? I don't remember. She and the chick, the famous.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Wasn't it like Lindsay Lohan? she was like friends with? No, it was another girl that was like that. It was Lionel Richie's daughter. I forget her name. Oh, okay. But she, they were, they were, I forget they had a TV program where they were basically just two kind of two young, filthy, rich dingback girls.
Starting point is 01:24:22 And they would take them and they'd have to go live with like a rule family or somebody. Like a poor family or a lower middle class family. And they, they were just clueless. Yeah. And they would talk, they would show how. clueless they were like they take them on a farm and they'd be like okay well we got to go do our chores and they'd be like well i don't understand oh my god it's like oh my god it's still dark like yeah it was just they were yeah i mean she was like pictured in the club like did you find it um the simple
Starting point is 01:24:50 the simple was that it i don't know maybe yes and nicholas had based internships along the east internships internships okay and then she was like pictured in a club too like wearing a shirt that literally just said stop being poor oh yeah I mean, the ignorance of that girl was just fucking classic. The big thing, she had a sex tape. Yeah. What got her really famous was the sex tape. Yeah, I mean, that's Kim Kardashian, too.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Same thing, you know? I mean, but like the Kardashian stories is wild too. I mean, the whole O.J. Simpson connection, too, is like fucking crazy as well. Did you know that? You didn't know that? What? So basically the Kardashians' dad was like a lawyer for O.J. Simpson. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:31 So, like, that whole connection is crazy. like supposedly there's this rumor on the internet that I think like the youngest one maybe Chloe or something I don't know I don't know the Kardashians very well but the youngest one might be OJ's kid with with Chris Jenner what's going on that's the that's the internet rumor there listen have you seen the there's a series that just came out on Apple called silo which is based on the book wool well I forget the guy what's the guy who was in he was in
Starting point is 01:26:06 Shawshank Redemption he plays Andy Dufrain and Shawshank Redemption So like the bald dude He's got kind of like red hair? No no he's the main character He's got like red hair kind of
Starting point is 01:26:17 No Shawshank Redemption I thought so My God Character of Andy Dufrain and Shawshank Redemption Oh well you got it Probably quicker than I can get it up
Starting point is 01:26:29 Tim Robbins So Tim Robbins right like there was a rumor that Tim Robbins died like five, six years ago, right? So we're watching Boziac told me he's like, you gotta watch this fucking series
Starting point is 01:26:44 so we started watching it and typically Bozac's got a 50-50 by the way on give his recommendations Yeah, his recommendations are questionable but because I saw silo and I watched the he showed me the trailer
Starting point is 01:26:58 and I went oh my God that's that's wool that's based on wool and which was a massively popular science fiction book whatever eight or ten years ago so he so I was watching it he's like so I was watching this right he said and um
Starting point is 01:27:16 Tim Robbins is in it I was like okay he goes you you know he's in it right I was like yeah yeah yeah he plays like the like basically like the mayor or something or whatever he plays somebody in there and he's like right right he said you know why I thought he died he's like you know don't you remember he died and I was like did he die and he's like yeah and I go I felt like I did hear something about that but I said yeah
Starting point is 01:27:42 he was yeah and so he looked it up and he's like sure enough like five or 10 years ago there was this massive thing about him being dead he had died so when he saw him he was like oh my god like like oh my he looks just like him oh my god but that's the kind of thing that that this Chloe is, is, oh, James. Yeah. It's a rumor. Well, I mean, there's another internet rumor that Avrilavine's been dead for a while, and they had basically, like, a doppelganger go on to a tour for her.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Well, there's a... I mean, that one was, like, a big one, too. And there's, like, yeah, it's still, like, around these fears about, like, have you seen her TikTok, Instagram, whatever? Yeah, so now she's, like, off of, like, whatever the conservative ship or whatever it is, right? She just, like, dances. Like, she's, like, she's insane. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:27 And, like, she, uh, she... her hands came over her eyes and like like for like a split second like the filter or whatever oh yeah i saw people are saying that it's like she's an alien or she's somebody else and she's like it's like some a i generated shit and her parents are making some money off of it you imagine well i've seen those deep fakes too like i mean some of them they look really real honestly yeah insanely real like it it's there was one with with there's one with um donald trump and biden where they're having like a conversation have you seen that oh yeah i mean they're all over yeah i see the gaming ones too where they have like obama trump and biden like playing like call
Starting point is 01:29:11 a duty just like cussing at each other just like just like yelling all this stuff and i mean like i don't know i think i have like one of my favorite tictox like you probably don't know the song but it's like uh it's this song like called love sosa by chief keef and he was like basically it's like this internet thing where they have Trump basically talking and like cussing I don't know here let me find it here you go here you go it's always in the barbershop
Starting point is 01:29:40 chief ain't about that my boy it's great yeah it does look good yeah yeah all you all motherfuckers talk about chief keep ain't no hitter chief keep ain't this
Starting point is 01:29:55 I think we got his foot it's a little too off yeah i mean like at the beginning it looks at the beginning it looks real yeah and his mouth is moving too much his mouth doesn't move that yeah if you get old you lose uh you get facial paralysis or something i don't know you start i mean as much of uh what botox that guy's had is like basically yeah they've done um like drake has his own AI generated album like people created an entire album Yeah, Bozac was telling me about that.
Starting point is 01:30:28 And it was actually pretty good. That's what he said. He goes, bro, it's good. Yeah. It's a good out. He was like, I wouldn't know because I'm watching it. Let's do it at all. But yeah, he was like, he was flipped out saying how good it was.
Starting point is 01:30:39 I mean, yeah, like AI has been on this path where it's like, I don't know, kind of like now like exponentially like getting into the public with everything. So, I mean, I don't know. There's going to be tough to tell what's real and what's not. Have you seen Photoshop thing? What photo? Photoshop has this thing where I can take a picture of you wherever. and you like it'll extend the photo and just generate like whatever is around us we'll take someone hours to do they'll do in like a split second oh well what about what about the um the new apple the goggle things
Starting point is 01:31:08 where it wraps the the picture around you yeah it's it's but all right like let's be honest here would you actually like the the theory of that is like you would come home from your job if you go into the office and fucking sit on a couch and put that on your face and never take it off and never take it off. Listen, Bozziak said, Bozziak, he goes, do you understand?
Starting point is 01:31:29 He goes, you can be poor now. Yeah. He's like, you can live, he goes, you buy one of these, you can just rent a room somewhere,
Starting point is 01:31:38 and you can, you can basically believe you're living in a fucking mansion. He goes, being poor isn't an issue anymore. Yeah. I was like, oh my God, he's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:47 He's like, think about it. He said, you can, because you can wear these things at all time. So you can be talking to your girlfriend as if you're in your luxury condo, You're driving a piece of junk car, and it's like a Ferrari.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Like, I mean, it's like everything about it is like, he was like, it's like, what is it, Game Player 2? Oh, it's like, Ready Player 1. It's like a Sim's game player too. Yeah. But yeah, it's, it's, it isn't, it's insane, bro. I mean, people are just going to get farther and farther out of reality. I mean, that's just. And that's what happening already.
Starting point is 01:32:18 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I was in a Coffeyzilla interview. He's talking about, I think it was on Joe Rogan, how like, there was like a, like a, like a, like, When people talk to this AI, like it's their girlfriend or something. Wait, wait, do you want to hear something crazy? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:32 We used to, I used to joke. We used to joke all the time, like, if you're in Facebook, right, like you have, it started obviously with MySpace, but, you know, like, you have MySpace friends, you have Facebook friends, people that you're good friends with, you talk to daily, text, everything, you message them, everything. This person lives in Iowa, you've never spoken with them, but they're your good, good best friend. never actually physically seen this person, right? You don't even need that.
Starting point is 01:32:59 Mary Shelley spent a few hours the other day talking with her AI friend on chat GPT or whatever it was. On Snapchat now too. Now on Snapchat you could do that. You have your own AI. It was insane. It's telling her joke. She's over there sitting on the couch giggling for hours.
Starting point is 01:33:22 And we're like, well, what are you doing? She's like, oh, nothing. Listen to this and I'm like This is you can have like a friend Like you can talk to you You can ask it questions and it talks to you Has a conversation Hours and hours and hours
Starting point is 01:33:34 You don't even need a real friend anymore What was that? You don't need a real person There's like I don't know It's not like black swan or something But it's yeah black mirror They had They had the full episode on that
Starting point is 01:33:48 Where like somebody's wife's husband Die No the husband No the husband the husband dies. Yeah. And you're right. It starts with that and then they actually get the person in there, right?
Starting point is 01:34:00 Yeah. And they basically they download, I don't know, they make an AI based on like all of his YouTube, his Twitter, like trying to get his personality, all that. She ends up loving the like whatever it is, the like AI generated robot of her deceased husband more than her actual husband. And then she orders a real one. She orders like a full size. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:21 No, exactly. Android. It's a, it's a, yeah, Android. Android that comes and everything about him is better. Yeah. Which sucks. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 01:34:32 Like he's tough standards here. He's hitting it better. He's more polite. He's nice. Like across the board. And then she eventually has him live in the attic and visit the daughter can visit. Do you remember that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:44 The very end of it. Did you see it? Yeah. Because she was like it was too good to be true or something like that. It's too much. She was like it was too much. Like it's not real. I can't do this anymore.
Starting point is 01:34:51 And she banishes him to live in the. and her, remember she's pregnant when the husband dies. So she has the baby and the daughter's like now seven years old or something and it's her birthday or something happens and she got her like gets her like a, I forget what it was. She got her like a piece of cake. She was going to have another piece of cake. And she goes, she goes, why, you've had one. And she said, she was for him.
Starting point is 01:35:14 And she's like, okay, cuts the cake. And she says, you know, it's my special day. She's like, it's like, it's like, can I go see him? Yeah, you can go see him? she takes the cake up of course the little girl eats the cake he doesn't eat he goes up there and visits with him apparently on the weekend she gets to visit him in the attic that's fucked up
Starting point is 01:35:33 how fucked up would you be mentally if you're visiting the android of your dead father on the weekends like that's a whole level who lives in the attic too that is a whole like they don't even have there aren't even have um there aren't even
Starting point is 01:35:53 psychiatrists that can deal at this point right now there's damage being done to people that psychiatrists out there aren't even prepared for 100% that's nuts well I mean I feel like the justification's like
Starting point is 01:36:08 all right well humans need that interaction so if an AI can give it to you I feel like that's going to be the justification going forward I don't know why this popped into my head um but
Starting point is 01:36:23 I saw like a meme I don't even sure what a meme is I saw like a joke where it said what did it say the guy's the guy talking to God and he said
Starting point is 01:36:40 and he goes God why did you make women so beautiful and he goes so you would love them he goes yeah but why'd you make them so stupid and God goes
Starting point is 01:36:52 so they'd love you that is the reason it reminds me of that because I just popped in my head oh man so yeah I mean that's where we're going huh I mean I'm not married now am I gonna have an AI wife
Starting point is 01:37:08 and I need to buy one off the internet I mean before it was just like you could buy like an Indian princess off the internet now it's like all right I can buy a physical Indian print you get a you can get like a little Asian chick right yeah all shapes and sizes now or ukraine although i heard like honestly like i heard like the the russian and ukrainian chicks
Starting point is 01:37:28 they're vicious oh yeah oh listen i've talked to guys that they're like listen if you if you're gonna get a a mail away bride like don't go european don't go eastern european they're like they're vicious they'll come in they will absolutely convince you they are in love with you and the moment they get their green card they'll take everything you've got and ruin your life he said now the difference is Like, you get yourself an Asian chick. She'll come over and she'll love you because you brought her over and stay with you forever. Just because they're culturally, you know. Not as savage, I guess.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Yeah, exactly. Like, they're like, no, I have a man. He takes care of me. I love him. Like, they're not, like, the Ukrainians and Russians and stuff and, you know. You'll slit the turn of sleep, huh? Yeah, they're rough, bro. They're rough.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Hot, but they're rough. I mean, it'd almost be worth it. Like, what if you could just trade up? every three years, right? I used to say that. I wanted to get out of prison. I'm going to get out of prison. I'm going to make a bunch of money.
Starting point is 01:38:26 And then I'm going to go get me like a Ukrainian. And it's going to be an arrangement. Yeah. Like, look, I get it. We're together for three years. At about six months towards the end of when the, when you're basically, we can get divorce about six months. We'll go back over there.
Starting point is 01:38:41 You'll help me find a new wife. I'll cut you loose. Give you some real estate and a little bit of money. And then we'll bring in the next one. So you're constantly just, you know. And if you do. went into the relationship knowing that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:53 Like, that wouldn't be a bad deal. If you were a multi, if you were like, if you were worth $100 million and that was just part of the deal, like I'd be okay with that. Like, that doesn't seem harsh, does it? Is that, I don't think that's wrong. You know, all the rich guys, they have like a bunch of beautiful women around all the time, right? But you would bother me.
Starting point is 01:39:10 What? Would be like if the chick the whole time was like, no, I really love you. I'd be like, stop. Stop it. Listen, you know, you know, you got 18 more months. Yeah, we got an agreement here. you know that would be the worst part is if they were trying to if they could convince you like that's what the guy was telling me in prison he's like no you don't understand they will convince you like you will literally you'll be 50 pounds overweight bald 25 years older than this chick she'll be 30 years old and you will be convinced no she really loves me he goes and then he said at exactly three years when she can cut you loose boom he's they won't even wait for a week you'll just come home one day and they're gone savage is out there They got, but now they're a citizen.
Starting point is 01:39:52 Like now three years, you can't take the citizenship. That you've been married for the three years. It's over. I got it. I'm done. It's like, yeah, but I knew the whole time. I told you this is in love. You're like, how the hell, like, I knew getting into this.
Starting point is 01:40:05 How the hell did I wind up here? How did I end up thinking this chick really loved me? And we, you know, you knew going in, look, we're going to get married. You're going to put in three years of a little bit of, a little bit of work. You know what I mean? And, you know, it looks so. It's, you know, but still, he said, oh, the whole time they'll convince you. He's like, they think it's part of their job to convince you.
Starting point is 01:40:26 They're playing chess. We're playing checkers, man. Yeah, it's horrible. Fucked up. Men are suckers. So don't get a male away bride. No. All right.
Starting point is 01:40:35 I wasn't considering it, by the way. Honestly. There's any ladies out there, hit me up. Halfway house. Halfway house. What are you doing? All right. That's where I got married that.
Starting point is 01:40:47 Her mom at the halfway house. Okay. Listen, they're at the bottom rung. I look good in the halfway house. In the halfway house, I looked good to every chick in there because they're just like, listen, I'm desperate. Right here. I'm here with my hand up.
Starting point is 01:41:07 I was going to say, we watched, what was the movie the other day with the Millers? I'll wear the Millers. Oh, yeah. The guy's getting his haircut. And he says, well, what kind of haircut do you want? He goes, and he says, give me something that I commute an hour and a half a day to my piece of shit job
Starting point is 01:41:26 so I can make just enough money to keep my kids indoor the Explorer stuff. And I'm just praying, or I'm barely able to keep the barrel of a gun out of my, from blowing my brains out every single day because of I hate my life. And the guy behind him goes, this is right here. This is the haircut he wants. Yeah. So funny.
Starting point is 01:41:46 Yeah, and he gets the stripper, Jennifer, you understand. to be his wife yeah it's a good movie yeah she's like how old is how old is she in her 50 so let's say she was in her mid 40s during that movie because that movie i saw that in prison she's still got it amazing yeah listen that's like and that's that's that's that's money yeah money cures everything i mean she's i bet you she's had a bunch of little tiny surgeries yeah mini surgeries a personal trainer her own chef you can look amazing for almost forever if you have enough money yeah i mean nothing will kill you either like a magic johnson you're this guy this guy's got such good medical care AIDS gave up on him yeah
Starting point is 01:42:31 HIV gave up on him they said i can't do we can't do it i know been trying to kill this fucker for 30 years and he was like that was like at the AIDS pandemic when nobody really knew what it was yeah apparently money cures it i mean money cures everything Follow the incentives, man. Follow the incentives. Crypto. He's trying to bring it back to crypto. I'm not trying.
Starting point is 01:42:59 All right. What are we doing? Are we done? I think that's good. Look at what they called me. We need a clock. Yeah. We need the shot clock going.
Starting point is 01:43:08 I don't know. I don't even know what the hell we talked about. We're at 155 with probably 10 minutes cutting out. So probably 145. 145. How the hell do we get here? Oh, this is not, I could talk for another hour. I know.
Starting point is 01:43:23 I feel like I could do the same thing. I know, I've been sitting here. Oh, good times. Yeah, I think I'm going to throw Chris, Chris Marrero alien video on the back of this. Nice, Chris Marrero alien video. Just put like a giant UFO just coming in just in the middle of the video to get some effects going. Have just an alien sitting here like creeping up next to us or something. You can play, you got to play, you have to play the video.
Starting point is 01:43:51 Yes, it's in the Google Drive, right? Yeah. What is this? Why is it? Here, yeah. Yeah. He went story after story, and I said, yeah, this is it. You got to play the.
Starting point is 01:44:03 It was a colonel of Robert Salon. He was controlled in minutes. He had ten of them. He was in charge of these. Yeah. And one day, a couple of you have lost. Listen. That, that, um, Invato.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Yeah. Bro, that's nothing. I could, if I could do, you could do just using B-roll, you could do an entire thing just on aliens. I could do a 20-minute video just about all the alien stuff that they've got. I'm going to look at that. The other one I have story blocks. It's just so generic. And it's just like you can, that stuff looks good.
Starting point is 01:44:43 Oh, that, I got great stuff. There's, there's way better stuff than that. It's just, I could play with it forever. I could. The worst thing is, is that now Jess is starting to figure out how to do TikToks on, on, Premier Pro. And she's starting to get, like, this morning, she woke up early. This is like me. Woke up early and came down here for a couple hours and worked on Premier Prox to figure out how to stack the images, how to turn it into a TikTok.
Starting point is 01:45:16 proud of herself too. And she's like, I'm starting to understand why you spend hours doing this. She's like, you can really lose track of time. I'm like, right? It's exciting. She's like, it's and she had downloaded stuff too. So she had B-roll.
Starting point is 01:45:32 She was, she was, the guys, it was this, this, um, mob guy that she's playing with the, um, the, the story that he's telling. And she's got B-roll of a guy like, so, smoking a cigar while he's talking you know which is pretty cool i didn't think about that yeah um
Starting point is 01:45:52 and it was it was perfect but you could tell she was excited about it so yeah it's it's um but yeah that that the b-roll that that that one's got really i'll give you all i've given you all this stuff yeah i just need to he's a pro man come on oh it's got it's a great b-roll and music and um of course the the um you know the intro we got to redo my intro what you do it's it come it's come on but even we there's so there's other ones we can do we can we got to do something yeah your workshop in it i'm trying i'm um it well he you're evolving man he made it two years ago he made it two years ago yeah you're evolving come on i would like to evolve i need to evolve all right um what are we doing are we wrapping it up oh okay so okay so
Starting point is 01:46:46 Okay, outro. Brandon, thank you for coming on. I've been told in the comment section, you need to thank your guests for coming on. So I appreciate you coming on and spanning multiple topics. A lot of people can't put together current crypto industry gossip
Starting point is 01:47:09 and current crypto events and aliens. and the whole UFO thing. A lot of people can't combine all that, but I feel like we did an excellent job. Yeah, man. Hey, Jack of All Trades this episode, huh? And you have a YouTube channel. I do.
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Starting point is 01:47:38 someone's calling. Says it's a spam. I can't talk now. Okay. All right, I appreciate you guys watching. Do me a favor if you like the video. Hit the subscribe button, hit the bell so you get notified of videos just like this. Also, we talked a lot about aliens, and so we're going to go ahead, and we're going to,
Starting point is 01:47:59 Colby's going to throw in Chris Marrero's interview, or maybe one of his whole interviews or maybe part of, I don't know if we talked about all aliens during that one interview or not. I don't know. Anyway, he's going to throw in that interview with Chris Talk. talking about aliens. Chris knows about all things aliens and we're going to throw that in here next. So check that out. Check this out. My question to you is when did aliens first get here and what's going on? Because obviously we talked about this a lot. And Boziak and I used to joke with you and mess with you all the time. And I remember it was like like Chris.
Starting point is 01:48:44 like why would they be here what and you had you know you would get excited and irritated and we would mess with you and then one day a couple years ago they came out with that the the Navy came out with showing all those things going and I know you're saying yeah the tick tax and then the government comes out and they're like yeah okay we we don't know what these are and so yes there are UFOs and we don't really know what they are and then a more pilots are coming out all the time saying, oh, man, we've been seeing them forever. We've been seeing all kinds of stuff. We've seen this.
Starting point is 01:49:20 We were told not to say anything. We've been told that if you start reporting these types of things, that they'll ruin your career. Like there's all kinds of stuff coming out by pilots saying, yeah, well, typically you don't report it. Why? Well, because then you're a crazy person that believes in UFOs. You don't want to be that guy. And of course, the government's saying, look, we just don't know. You know, we don't know what these things are, but obviously they're not, they're saying they're not
Starting point is 01:49:44 man-made. We don't, well, we don't know what they are. We don't know if they're man-made. We don't know. They know. Right. Okay. They're just saying they don't know. Either way, when they said that, I thought, I don't want to believe in aliens. Like, I don't want to be that guy. But there's more and more questions. And so it, it concerns me because I don't want to sound crazy. But you know, it's like, you know, if you eliminate all other explanations, then, you know, you kind of have to believe the unexplainable, you know. So anyway, all right. So talk to me.
Starting point is 01:50:25 Tell me, I know you've got some theories. I know you've read extensively. Insane amount of stuff on this. Well, before I start, there are a couple of documentaries you should see, which are really good. One is called unacknowledged. Unacknowledged. Colby will put it in the, Colby will put it in the description. Dr. Stephen Greer.
Starting point is 01:50:49 He also does Above Top Secret, the Cosmic Hoax, Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind. There's also the phenomenon and the Bob Lazar story, which is Area 51 and Flying Saucers. Right. I love Babazar. Yeah. Do you know him? No, but I mean, I've seen a bunch of. documentaries on him and he was on you like rogan and yeah joe rogan did an interview
Starting point is 01:51:16 really good um so let me start from i first really came to the conclusion that ufo's real when i saw a documentary called ufos the greatest story ever denied and in there dr stephen greer is doing the disclosure project where he has gotten together people from the government or military, from CIA, whatever, and brought them all together. And they have said, look, we will testify before Congress for what we have seen and what we have have to say, you know, like you said, be that guy that we can't say anything. So when I saw that first, I said, wow, there really is something to this then. This is not, you know, just a cool Hollywood movie anymore.
Starting point is 01:52:12 This is pretty freaking cool if it's real. So that's what really kind of convinced me. And he went story after story, these people did of everything that they encountered. And I said, yeah, this is it. I'll give you one. There was a doctor, not doctor, it was a colonel, I think, Robert Salas. and he was controlled in Minuteman missiles. He had 10 of them, and he was in charge of these things.
Starting point is 01:52:46 And one day, a couple of UFOs come down, and the guys who were outside, he was inside, and the guys are outside, they're frantic. They're saying, we got UFOs out of here. What do we, you know, what do you want us to do? We shoot out of him or what? He says, no, no, just hold him. hold off and little by little and not you got to understand each missile silo is its own system it's its own electrical system its own whatever system it's they're not connected in any way and one by one the UFOs shut down each missile silo boom boom boom boom one after another and man you can't you know that that's pretty freaking incredible because they went from there to another uh place with had missile silos and they shut those
Starting point is 01:53:34 down too. It's kind of like they were saying to us, you know, stop this insanity with the missile silos because, you know, with the missiles and the sea ICBMs and everything, because you're going to kill each, you know, you're going to destroy the planet and everything on it. It's a beautiful place. So the reason I think the military and what Mr. Greer says also is that the military now is coming out with, yes, there are UFOs because they have enough. they have reverse engineered enough that they can now bring them as the enemy right they can bring them forward as the enemy and say what we need more funding congress we got another enemy to fight and that's what's going to happen next um there was a ben in black that was uh on his death bed and he said that in 2024 is where it's actually going to start and with the way it's going to start is with holograms because they got holes holograms now that are incredible, and you can't tell the difference between the real thing and the fake thing. They got from chemtrails, enough barium in the sky, that they'll be able to project holograms that are, you know, and they're going to have, you know, actually pilots fighting these things, and it's going to look real as shit.
Starting point is 01:54:54 People are going to get scared. That's what they want. They want to continue with a fear, and because it's basically the reptilians that feed off this fear, it's crazy. but they actually control a lot and they've been here for longer than all of us have been here okay wait a second one the men and a man in black yeah they have a men in men of black are both uh like CIA guys and alien hybrids they're both alien hybrids and regular guys like the movie men in black yeah but that's you know it's a movie that's a movie okay Hollywood bullshit you know but is a movie made to
Starting point is 01:55:34 discredit people believing in men and black? No, not to discredit it just to make it silly, you know? It's like Domer Pyle, you know what I mean? That's like, but anyway, on his deathbed, he said that shit is going to start in 2024. So we got two years to find out if he was, if he's correct on that. And here, you're saying that they're going to project holograms. Who's going to project hologram? Matter of fact, you've heard of the Phoenix lights?
Starting point is 01:56:04 yeah that were over Phoenix all the little like they were like they thought they were like UFOs right no they were but they he says he says according to him it was a it was a sciops it was actual holographic projection who's doing the projecting the government for what reason to instill fear because if you instill fear then you can get more funding and if you remember runsville before the war said we got two point three trillion dollars that's unaccountable he's a black ops he's a black uh operations that just they don't want to get out power they they need they need constantly to be fed money yes i know there is no money it's ironically but but but they want that cash the federal reserve no there's some there's some conflicting uh uh theories here but but but no money it's not back and we went through that it's not backed by anything so Anyway, but anyway. So these speculative notes, they want more of those speculative notes.
Starting point is 01:57:09 Yeah. Okay. Reptilians. Reptilians, yeah. You should also look up David Ike. David Ike does some cruel stuff with books that he's written and documentaries. But the reptilians have been here forever. And there are Dracos.
Starting point is 01:57:29 They're all kinds of different types of reptilians. And they're actually the ones who are above controlling the Vatican. They're above the Vatican. All right. So the. So the aliens. I know it sounds crazy, man. So the aliens are here.
Starting point is 01:57:51 Oh, they've been here for centuries. Yeah, they've been here for. Why aren't they out here? Come, I've never seen any aliens. I mean, any, any reptilians. Like, what are they doing? why are they not like why are they not just like another species oh they don't want to be known they don't want to do interviews they don't want to do podcasts that they don't want to be
Starting point is 01:58:12 very underground sort of speak you know they don't want to but for that reason what is the benefit to stay hidden and why are we here or do they just not care about us like are they running something are they mining gold are they they're also no they can also duplicate um duplicate themselves as humans that you can actually be talking to somebody and not know that they're a reptilian. Like they live or they. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. With Rodney Piper, right?
Starting point is 01:58:42 Rodney Piper? I don't know. I don't remember. But they can remember the movie, they? No, I don't remember so long ago. That's great. It's a great movie. It's a great movie.
Starting point is 01:58:52 I can't believe. Listen, you have to watch a they. That's where like basically like every like 20% of society is actually aliens. that look like humans, but if you put on these special glasses, you- They live. They live. Yeah, not they. They live.
Starting point is 01:59:09 And you was funny? This was back in the 80s, and you know what was funny about that? Was that, do you remember they had like drones that were following people and were kind of like up in the air and you couldn't see them? And I just, you know, it's like, they're just hanging. They're just sitting there. Now we have drones. What they're doing is telling you what they're going to do through motion pictures.
Starting point is 01:59:29 Right. They're letting you, they use motion pictures to kind of let you know. And TV. Like when the government comes out and says, hey, by the way, there's UFOs. People, there's not mass panic. Like everybody basically was like, really? That's crazy. And they just went about their day.
Starting point is 01:59:46 Yeah, there are a lot of UFOs off Florida. It's just, you got a, like, Gulf, there's a place called Gulf border. Golf something, I forget, Gulf breeze or something like that. There are a lot of UFOs around there. But, I mean, you have to really kind of search. But since you're asking me about that, Dr. Stephen Greer does have an app that you can download CE5. Look it up on your thing now. Okay, Colby, put CE5 in the description.
Starting point is 02:00:14 Put the app in the description. And they will actually show you and teach you how to actually call down aliens. He has meetings, and he's having one up this September. I'd love to go to it out west, that they actually go out. in the desert and they will actually call you know they they do make contact and um probably got a he's probably got a a drone he's got somebody down the street like two miles down the street with a drone lies way up and as it comes down it turns a light on so people are like oh my god it's right he's amazing don't it he's probably sitting there saying hey like join my
Starting point is 02:00:57 Patreon. No, it's actually they meditate. They do a whole big meditation thing. He does. Well, how does he get paid? People, well, the app is like 10 bucks. And he's probably got a Patreon. He may have a Patreon. You don't
Starting point is 02:01:13 know. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Support the cause. Look what I just did. Yeah. I just called down an alien. And then, of course, then the drone goes back up and it shuts the light off and the guy flies it back over to where he is and it lands. The guy jumps in his car and he leaves. that would be a great scam like i want to run that scam
Starting point is 02:01:34 like i'd have fucking 10 drones listen i get it going good oh man matt matt um um a man there's so much to tell you there's another lady named gosha you got you've got a lesson of this she has a youtube channel called Cosmic Agency and Gosha has been interviewing the Palladians for the last five years. Who are the Palladians? They come from the constellation, the Palladian Constellation and this girl, Suaru, is the girl she's been interviewing and they come from the planet Tigeta in the Palladian constellation and they've been circling the Earth for quite a while. They're 18, of them on this ship ship is huge why why they need to protect uh actually um they go into detail
Starting point is 02:02:39 but they're telling you that they need to protect this planet they love this planet and there are certain times that they have protected it from a nuclear situation and uh also they protect it from other reptiles not coming here and others not not taking human bodies as slaves or to be eaten. Believe it or not. I'm telling you what she said. Don't don't. I mean,
Starting point is 02:03:06 they need food. Like, they haven't solved it. Like, to me, this is the way I look at it. They enjoy eating us, I guess.
Starting point is 02:03:12 I don't know. Or a delicacy. If you're an alien and you can travel, one, if you can travel hundreds of, or thousands or millions of light years. Right. Pretty fast.
Starting point is 02:03:23 To get here without having to go through generations of your people. to even make it here. So one, if you can get here that fairly quickly, you've obviously already solved the problem of energy. You've most likely solved the problem of food, water, and resources. So the only reason to come here would be tourism. That's really, there's nothing here. It's not like people are like, oh, they came here for the water.
Starting point is 02:03:50 Why? Water is abundant. So it's like Las Vegas? What happens on Earth, stays on Earth? What are you guys doing? you know so I mean what I'm saying like it's like oh they're here for the energy what energy like if they can travel all this way then they don't they don't need energy they figure that out like and then it's like okay what about this well then then well then what do
Starting point is 02:04:13 they're here for they're here for um for you know like for what like they want the planet or they're gonna they're gonna come down and fight us the idea that we could fight off aliens is so hilarious like aliens would just come and they'd sprinkle some dust and all the humans would just be gone you know like they put a virus like hey we're going to engineer a virus like there's so many they're so far advanced they would be able to come down and and just sprinkle some dust and we're gone our palladian contact who we are and why are we here you know but i have a youtube channel it's the first one what's the first one uh who we are who we are Why are we here?
Starting point is 02:04:57 Okay. You know, when you do it, when you show me that, you know, I hear the music to the X-Files. I can hear it in my head. The, I can hear the X-Files music when you're talking. Especially you held it up like this. By the way, you held it up and you went, you kind of like, you didn't hold it still. You kind of did a whole, and I can hear the music. So, all right.
Starting point is 02:05:23 So you have a whole theory that you've studied, which is about the aliens are working with the governments of the world for some reason, right? Yeah. Actually, there was a guy who came down who was an alien named Valiant 4, and he worked in the Pentagon for years. There's a book on it called Stranger in the Pentagon by strangers. I forget the guy's name. But you can look it up on Amazon. it's called Stranger in the Pentagon Stranger in the Pentagon
Starting point is 02:05:56 and what was the deal with that? He was trying to get them to stop using nuclear you know bombs and stuff and they just they would you know our government our people wouldn't have it um Eisenhower
Starting point is 02:06:12 did sign a treaty with the gray aliens that I've heard this one okay go go ahead sorry I remember you talk talking about this. It's called a Treaty of Greada, spelled G-R-E-A-A-A-D-A. You could look that up if now if you want. Granada, like the island Granada? No, not Grenada, G-R-E-A-A-D-A. Okay. G-R-E-A-A-D-A. And basically, you give us technology, and they wanted to take, to be able
Starting point is 02:06:45 abduct, you know, as many people as they wanted. So, that was in the 50s. That's reasonable. Apparently the first persons that they actually abducted were Betty and Barney Hill. So that was back to who? Betty and Barney Hill. Who's that? The first people they abducted. Are they famous?
Starting point is 02:07:12 Yeah, huge famous. They have even a plaque about the whole UFO situation that they went through. I think it's in Maine. Yeah. So they abducted them, what'd they do with them? They brought them back? All kinds of like weird experiments and stuff and, I mean, they had to go through therapy and all kinds of stuff.
Starting point is 02:07:33 It was wacko. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. They were doing the probing. A lot of probing. A lot of probing. I was going to get you a t-shirt that says, I'll believe in aliens when I'm mainly proled.
Starting point is 02:07:47 Listen. There must be some aliens in prison because there were some guys trying, you know, but I got lucky. It wasn't for lack of trying. So let me ask you, do you believe in aliens now or no? I believe I want to say something's going on. You got to study the matter because I didn't believe it either at first. You got to study it and say, is there something to this? And when you study it and you learn it, it's like, wow.
Starting point is 02:08:21 whole freaking thing opens up that you never knew existed. I mean, you know, I didn't ever always always believe in it. I came to a conclusion that enough has happened and there are enough people that say, you know, this happened to me and that happened me. What's the game plan? What is the ultimate game plan? Like, why are they here? Like, why are we here?
Starting point is 02:08:47 They live here. There are a lot of them that are just living here. They've been here for before we were here. But do they like they want to get rid of us? You're saying they're they're abducting us. They're they want to do a hybrid program where they're half, you know, alien and half human because they can't seem to reproduce the same way we can. They don't have the ability to do that anymore.
Starting point is 02:09:15 So they need an ability to reproduce. It's all about sex, Matt. I always did. Do you remember the guy they called the porpoise, the sex offender that had the big head? He had the big forehead and he was like a sex offender? Did I see him? I think he was there. Definitely, I think he was there when you were there.
Starting point is 02:09:37 He was there when JJ was there. He looked like he was part alien. He had a shaved head and he had a huge forehead and he was all bald. Remember the guy they called forehead? God, I don't remember, dude. Another guy they called forehead. They called one guy like they called them the porpoise. And that was the sex offender guy.
Starting point is 02:09:56 And then they had another guy. They called forehead. Forehead very well may have had some alien in him. It would have to do like a genealogy thing. But I've seen some people that I thought something's not right with that guy. Like that may be a crossbreed. Might be some splicing. There's some genetic alien splicing in there.
Starting point is 02:10:18 So they want. So what is the, so what's the plan? They want to try and blend the two species together so they can, for that, they can breed. Yeah. Right now. And they want to control the population. That's why most of all this, um, is anti-human that they're doing.
Starting point is 02:10:35 You know, the population control, get the population down to 500 million, which was on the Georgia Guidestones, which just got recently blown up. Remember that? Just got blown up. Right. But it was on there. And, um, the, They just want more control.
Starting point is 02:10:51 The population here has gotten out of control, according to them. They're like, what, 9 billion people on the planet now? They want to get it down. It's coming down naturally. Not fast enough. Well, then let us drop some of those nukes. I mean, I don't agree with it. I think got plenty of room for everybody.
Starting point is 02:11:11 But, you know, they're trying to star-rest. They started the AIDS virus. You know, Robert Gallus started the AIDS virus. the AIDS virus used funded by the Rockefeller Foundation and they put it in Africa and New York back in the 80s. So if if if they're actively, so the aliens are actively trying to get our population growth under control, but the wire and we're working, are we working with them? Or do we not even, does our government even know they exist?
Starting point is 02:11:44 Oh yeah, yeah. They're working with them. They've been working with them for years. our government fighting AIDS and fighting Corona and fighting these things? Oh, because they still have to look in the public, you know, that they're doing this when they're in actuality doing this
Starting point is 02:11:57 other thing. Okay. So it's all, they have to have that altruistic face to the public. Right, right. I get it. I get it. So the game plan is to breed with humans. That's one of the game plans. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 02:12:17 technology we want the technology too and we want the technology is thousands and thousands of years ahead of its of our time if not millions okay what you would think they just come down and say look we're going to give we need this you know and do a negotiation like is that why the So the government's come out and said, look, there's, well, they've said there's UFOs. They haven't said there's aliens, but they said there's UFOs. There's some stuff going on. Oh, here's the question. What are the TikToks?
Starting point is 02:12:56 What were those? Because I said they were like, they're like UFOs and you said they're manmade. Yeah, that's what Stephen Greer is saying that they're possibly manmade because they're allowing this information out now. And the reason they're wanting it to come out now is because they're going to, you know do that plan alien invasion that i that i was telling you about but it's all bullshit it's not even really happening they're going to make it look like there's an alien invasion yeah there really isn't no they've been very peaceful that if they wanted to wipe us out they
Starting point is 02:13:29 could have done it a long time ago yeah what was the um what was that movie um the one about the a the kids are fighting the aliens um It's an alien species that comes to Earth and we fight them. The day this Earth stood still or? No, no, that was, no. Keanu Reeves made a remake of that, didn't they? Yeah. Are you talking about the remake with Tom Cruise?
Starting point is 02:14:04 No, no, that's War of the Worlds. War the Worlds, right. Yeah. No, I'm talking about this. Who's in it? Who's in it? It wasn't divergence. It was, that was the other one.
Starting point is 02:14:13 That was a, I can't believe that I can't remember the name of this movie. Harrison Ford was in it. Harrison Ford Alien movies. That's what I need to find out. Harrison Ford Alien movies. We'll look that out real quick. Harrison Ford Alien movies. While you're looking at that up.
Starting point is 02:14:36 Hey, it's called Ender's Game. You never saw it, Inders Game? Oh, yeah, I saw it in prison. And they have a ton, they end up getting a ton. He trains all these kids, right, or something? Yes. Yes. He ends up getting, they've got tons of fans.
Starting point is 02:14:53 Like the whole planet is donating, sorry, or paying in taxes and they're being, like in the book, it's like everything on the planet is, everybody on the planet is working to come up with like the funding to fund our defense. against aliens so people are like yeah people are just working their asses off to to produce money to give them to fight off the next alien invasion because they're like look they come back and we won't survive see they're telling you what they're trying to do and and i don't even remember the movie but yeah that's what they're trying to do and like you just said the money is represented by your energy yeah labor yeah well i mean that's really in the end And I was saying, you know, money is, technically money is, is labor.
Starting point is 02:15:48 You know, well, it used to be labor and now it can also be an intellectual property. But yeah, it's representative of, well, anyway, you have a different take. So, which is in another video if anybody wants to watch Chris talk about the other day. So Chris is a guy, by those who are tuning in, Chris is a guy that Boziac and I and another guy named Paul and a bunch of other guys, we would go and we would talk to Chris. Chris was just a wealth of information and entertainment, you know. So I have another question. What are the chem trails again? Well, they're exactly that.
Starting point is 02:16:26 They're chem trails. They're putting barium in the sky to be able to, it's kind of like having a background so they can do the actual hologram. And but barium and I forget all the other side products are in it, but they're not good for you. And you inhale them and that's not good for you. It's got a lot of nanotechnologies in it. It's got a lot of crap that is destroying our, you know, are being able to
Starting point is 02:16:53 breathe and eat properly and everything. Okay. What, I mean, what am I supposed to say? So who is working? So you're saying that the aliens are here. The government knows that the government's working in conjunction. with them. Yeah. Who is in charge of this whole operation? Is this a consensus of governments or is this one person's running the whole thing working with the aliens? Or is there
Starting point is 02:17:21 a meeting once a month? Well, that's the thing. It's above top secret and the president doesn't have access. You know, Stephen Greer has tried to brief presidents and head of the CIA and all that. And they realized, he realizes that they don't know anything in what's going on. not in control. There are others that are in control that control the black ops and control the money that's going into these programs. The president is just really a temporary employee. If you know anything about security, top secret security clearances, there are 14 levels above the president that he doesn't have the permission to go up and see. The first one is cosmic and there's then there's majestic but he's not privy to the information up there so there are
Starting point is 02:18:17 people that are private these are private entities and that's why if you do a freedom of information act they don't give a shit they don't have to tell you anything because they're private entities okay well the president like skunk works and rayathon and all those so the president does The president does each president that comes in know that there are aliens. That's something when they give them the briefing on here's what's going on in the world. Carter knew because he saw one. Reagan knew because he saw one. You know, he saw them in the sky.
Starting point is 02:18:53 That's like Trump would have tweeted. They told Trump. He'd have been like, oh, hell, hell no. I got a tweet about that you guys, this is what they just told me. like you would think Trump he was he was unhinged like he's not you can't put a cap on that he's going to talk about some shit
Starting point is 02:19:14 well yeah but the thing is that even with maybe that's what the rate on Mara Lago whatever it called Marilago was about they were like he still got them documents well see Clinton wanted to go ahead and go forward with it and he
Starting point is 02:19:30 really wanted to find out what the hell's going on and they had to tell Stephen Greer that that although he wants to do this, he's afraid he's going to end up like Kennedy. Because Kennedy wanted to bring some stuff forward. And 10 days later, they got rid of them. Marilyn Monroe.
Starting point is 02:19:51 Tell me the Marilyn Monroe thing. I'm glad I remember the Marilyn Monroe thing. Tell me about Marilyn Monroe. Everybody should go to YouTube and put in Marilyn Monroe declassified. And it's the last 15 minutes of, that story that blew me away. I never heard of this before. And that's basically, Colby, put it in the links. What is it? What is it? It's called Marilyn Monroe declassified. Marilyn Monroe declassified. So can I give everybody the background real quick if they don't
Starting point is 02:20:25 know? Everybody probably knows who Marilyn Monroe was. But Marilyn Monroe supposedly was sleeping with Kennedy. It's not supposedly it was. Okay. And his brother. brother, right, which was Attorney General at the time, Robert Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy, and that Marilyn Monroe had, was supposed to talk to a reporter. She was upset because they were basically blowing her off. Like they were just done with her. She's a drug addict. We're done with her. She's causing problems. It's going to end up in the newspapers. So she was about to go and talk with a press conference. She was going to do a press conference. Oh, she's going to do a press conference. And Jack Kennedy told her that Roswell was for real.
Starting point is 02:21:10 Wait a minute. Wait a minute. This is your version. I'm saying the official version is that she was going to meet with a reporter. And she was going to, they were afraid she was going to spill the beans about having an affair with them. So she ends up overdosing on, what was it, heroin? No, some pills. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:32 Okay. So she takes some pills or something. and her maid or somebody finds her, and they try and revive her, but they can't, and she ends up, and she dies. That's the official thing, and, um, but. That's not what happened. Chris, roll with it. All right. This is what happened.
Starting point is 02:21:55 She was good to a press conference about that fact that Jack Kennedy told her that Roswell was real and that he had seen alien bodies and the craft and all that. And I guess his name was Angler, who was head of the CIA at the time or something like that. It starts with an A, I forget. He hired Sam G. and Kana to actually to assassinate her.
Starting point is 02:22:21 And they did it through some sort of depository or something. You put it through your ass and it just gives off, you know, whatever, poison, whatever it is. And that's who actually killed her and the thing they did it they timed it when Robert Kennedy was in town so they could kind of blame it on him the thing is from what I understand Peter Lawford heard about it and he contacted Bobby Kennedy to tell him what was going on she was deceased and they found all kinds of
Starting point is 02:22:56 incriminating evidence against Bobby Kennedy in the bedroom that the Secret Service got out of there so he didn't have anything to do with it according to this particular uh the end of this particular documentary which was fascinating i couldn't believe out what i was hearing and seeing when when i was seeing this you've got to see it matt you got to see it it's called he there's a guy who wrote a book called flying saucers and maryland monroe and everything kind of started with the death of Maryland and Earl. It was in 1962. Then Kennedy got shot in 63. Bobby got shot
Starting point is 02:23:37 68 and Martin Luther King got shot. So it was like, boom, boom, boom right after another. So Robert Kennedy got shot, but why was he shot? He got murdered in 68. I'm sorry John F. Kennedy was shot because
Starting point is 02:23:55 why? Well, there were a lot of, he had like a perfect storm reasons why he got killed there's um well the fact that 10 days earlier he was going to bring a lot of evidence forward regarding UFOs number two he had created united states notes which the congress is allowed to create its own monetary system according to the constitution but fed didn't like that so that was one of the other reasons he was shot um God, there was so many reasons he was like he was actually put in by the mob backed them up
Starting point is 02:24:39 and then his brother and him went against the mob. Yeah, but it had nothing to do with aliens? No, not that part. Oh, okay. But one of the parts was that he had signed a letter that he was going to bring information forward to tell the American people about aliens and stuff. And they said, no, no, no, that's not going to happen. that's not going to happen
Starting point is 02:25:02 you've got to go got to go yeah but there were other reasons why he was murdered but that was just one of them sorry what's the next step in the alien saga well do you know that you're aware
Starting point is 02:25:18 that at Roswell that we were able to get fiber optic cable computer chips lasers night vision scope and Kevlar from that one crash I mean that seems like
Starting point is 02:25:40 that's great but that seems like we could get some more stuff than that yeah but 1947 dude are you aware that two weeks later the NSA was created because the Roswell crash happened July 7th 1947 two weeks later they they initiated the nsa didn't know that yeah because they wanted to say
Starting point is 02:26:07 well is you know top security we can't let you can't let the people know about it it's it's national security issue so they kept it a secret but out of that crash we got all those things that i just mentioned um okay so what are the tic talks Well, no, he knows, but some people are thinking because the government let it out that, yes, there are aliens, that they're setting people up for this make-believe alien invasion, which Warren of Ron Brown is actually the one that stated to, I forget the girl's name, but he was head of NASA and on his death, but he was saying this is all bullshit. It's all going to happen this way, and it's all a lie. And just know it that when it happens, you know that I told you ahead of time that this alien invasion that they're planning is all bullshit. Because they need another enemy. The enemy first was during the Cold War was Russia.
Starting point is 02:27:15 Then it was going to be terrorism, right? And they had only squeezed so much out of that. then it's going to be the next big frightening thing is going to be the aliens because they constantly need money at the Congress to be able to fight you know the boogeyman so that's how it's going to be just I know you think it's it's crazy but I told you before in prison about UFOs and aliens you made fun and then so so you're saying the next two years alien invasion that's what they say
Starting point is 02:27:56 is they're at least going to make it look like the truth is they've already been here but they're going to try and so the next two years they're going to the government is this a world government or just the US government there's some kind of world government that's really happening or yeah they got pretty much control over
Starting point is 02:28:12 pretty much all other governments I mean and plus the UN and all that stuff so they're going to make it look like we're being invaded by aliens using holograms in order to scare money out of the American people.
Starting point is 02:28:27 Yeah. And they've got to make it look real as shit, dude. I wouldn't put anything past them at this point. I mean, I want to be there. I want to see the footage. I want to, you know, I want to be there. You want to hear something interesting? You know what Edgar Casey was? Sounds familiar.
Starting point is 02:28:45 Okay, he was a seer. He was a clairvoyant. He lived back in the... He died 1940-something, anyway. He, and he was able to remote view, you know, what remote viewing is. Yes, remote viewing is when you can basically, you can kind of like get into a trans-like state and you can bring your consciousness somewhere else on the planet or someplace and view things in rooms and buildings and just in other places on the planet remotely. Right. So the Russians developed it. And then because the Russians were developing, the United States government started developing,
Starting point is 02:29:25 and they got great success out of it. And this particular guy has been studying it for about 50 years now. And what he did was he went to all the remote viewers that he could find around the world. And they don't know each other. They all told them the same thing because he wanted to find out what's going to happen in the future. up to 2050, which isn't that far away. Right. And they all said that L.A. is underwater.
Starting point is 02:30:02 Are you serious? Yeah. You know, I've been praying, and I've told Jess two days ago, I said, I hope that whole place just sinks. I mean, honestly, like, it's just, it's time to go. It's time to start up. We need to start over from Arizona on in. I mean, that, it's just, it's chaos over there. Yeah, and basically Nevada's gone.
Starting point is 02:30:24 Wyoming becomes waterfront property. And all of the eastern coast is basically gone, partial Florida has gone. I'm gone because, I mean, I'm down here in Fort Waterdale, but also the Titanic plates in Europe collapse, which means all of Europe is underwater. Most of Britain's underwater. There's a little bit left of Britain. There's all of France is gone, Spain, Romania. All of that is gone. It's all in order.
Starting point is 02:30:53 Look up, if you don't believe me, look up what's called the Doomsday Map. And the Doomsday Map will show you what they think will look like when all of this occurs. Wait, what's the, what is the, what's the straight, that area, the two plates that are in California, that California, those two plates. What's the name of that, that? Well, there's one in the Pacific Ocean that's bigger than the San Andreas Fall. San Andreas, San Andreas. That's it. San Andreas fault.
Starting point is 02:31:24 But the one of the Pacific Ocean is massive. It is so huge. It's just incredibly scary to look at. In Superman, the first Superman that came out with, what's his name? He died. Christopher Reeves? Christopher. Yeah, Christopher Reeves.
Starting point is 02:31:45 Remember, Lex Luther was going to have a nuclear bomb go off. and California was going to slip into the ocean. Yeah. Remember that? They're telling you what that's going on. Plus. So Lex Luthor has nothing to do with this? No.
Starting point is 02:32:04 Not at all. So if you want to see some of these for free, these documentaries that I was telling you about, you can go to two, you ever go to Tube, T-U-B-I? that's another like a Netflix kind of thing you get it on you on your computer to me and you get all these for free
Starting point is 02:32:27 there's also another one you've got to go to and that's on YouTube it's called the fifth kind with Paul Wallace oh my kind the fifth kind with Paul Wallace and he also has the fifth kind dot TV he talks about the Ananaki about the
Starting point is 02:32:45 biblical stuff and how it correlates the ananaki came here like four and fifty thousand years ago and they're the ones who actually created mankind they're the ones who created what became the adapu or the adam or what we call the atom adam was actually according to divine encounters um what they called the blackheaded people from africa so that was actually according to divine encounters um what they called the blackheaded people from africa so that was the beginning of mankind that they created also talks about in the clay tablets of the samarian text about the flood the tower babble all of that is the actual source of what later became the old testament so yeah i really recommend you you listen to the fifth kind and it's fifth like
Starting point is 02:33:38 the number 5th kind Paul Wallace W-A-L-L-I-S excellent Chris and Gaia Gaia dot com yeah
Starting point is 02:33:56 G-A-I-A-com there's so much to learn on this stuff man I mean it is they have a plethora of information that it's just overwhelming There's so much to learn and so much to know about all this stuff. It's crazy. You remember one time?
Starting point is 02:34:15 What? You had a book and I was like, Chris, this is ridiculous. It's true. It's true. And you showed me on the back of the book. It said nonfiction. You're like, it's nonfiction. That doesn't mean anything.
Starting point is 02:34:30 You said, it says nonfiction. It's true. It's all true. And I was like, that doesn't mean any. Anyway. all right all right but i'm gonna i'm gonna wrap this up okay because i need some more coffee i wish i could get some how come you don't drink coffee you don't drink coffee yeah i do i just can't go anywhere well can't you get like a coffee little coffee maker or something or
Starting point is 02:34:58 nah i don't i don't i don't i get coffee on the on the road i don't make it here you know i'm barely ever here. Listen, I tell you right now, I'm like, I drink coffee all day long. I just have one cup of the morning. That's it. That's all I need. Plus, I only got like three hours sleep last night. Well, that's why. Well, I mean, I'm, yeah, I'm exhausted. Prior to this, we had, we established that he, he wants to put up videos. He's got videos. He's got photographs and all of that. And I just kind of had to explain that like, you know, I just want to hear you with him explain what a sovereign citizen is because there's a whole sovereign citizen movement. And I think that one, I, there is a sovereign citizen movement, which basically, and what I think it is, is that
Starting point is 02:35:57 these are people that are saying, hey, we're not, we're our own sovereignty. We're not, citizens of the United States where are we are governed by our by ourselves something like that right yeah but not really um basically what people want to do all right this is what happens when you're born when you're born they create a corporate fiction of you your name in capital letters Matt Cox and capital letters is not you it's a corporate fiction that they create at birth who does the United States government government yeah it's on your births certificates on social, your driver's license, everything you get to the IRS, whatever, all your, everything you get from the government is in capital letters. They're directing the corporate fiction that was created at birth. Okay. Can I talk to one second? Yeah. Okay. The reason I want to mention that one of the reasons that I'm interested in this is that a lot of times the sovereign citizens will do things like, you know, they say, hey, I'm not, I don't have to pay taxes. I don't have to do. these things. You don't have any, you don't have any, um, any control over me. You're, you know,
Starting point is 02:37:12 I'm my own country, my own citizen. I, you don't, your laws, uh, don't govern me. And the problem is, is that they'll do that and they end up, a lot of times they'll get in trouble and they end up going to prison. And there's a lot of sovereign citizens that are in prison. And that's kind of why I'm talking to Chris about this, because there's lots of these guys that are out there and they'll do stuff. And a lot of times they'll do stuff. And it actually works. I don't know if it works because I think it works because it slips through the cracks of the system. And Chris, of course, thinks it works because they're sovereign citizens and they just happen to know the law and they're able to take advantage of it. So that's why I'm here having him
Starting point is 02:37:52 explain it. And it's, it's, it's interesting to me. This takes a lot of study. It's a big rabbit hole to get into. Right. You got to really study for at least five years before you do anything so these guys so you at birth yeah a corporate fiction of you at birth okay so basically that is how one gets control of you so if you get it stopped by cob you get a ticket and they're sending you the the actual breaking of the statute and code that you did it's in capital letters they're contracting with this trust and you are their trust of that trust, basically. So what a lot of people want to do is they want to get away from that.
Starting point is 02:38:42 You don't want to be a U.S. citizen because a U.S. citizen means you're an employee of the U.S. federal corporation. The U.S. is not the U.S. of A. It's two separate entities completely. If you look under, like I said on the previous podcast, United States Code Title 28, section 3002 subsection 15A it does say the United States is a federal corporation not a landmass and it is basically its sovereignty is 10 square miles of Washington D.C., which is a city-state just like the Vatican is and in the city of London. So people don't want to be, if you're a U.S. citizen, the worst thing you want to be as a citizen,
Starting point is 02:39:33 You don't want to be an employee of this U.S. federal corporation. You want to get back to the Dejure Republic, which is the United States of America, which was incorporated in 1776, created 1776, but actually incorporated in 1787. When Benjamin Franklin came out of the Constitution Hall, there was a lady they asked him, sir, what have you given us? And he said, we gave you a republic, if you can keep it. And we haven't been able to keep it of it. And we are now a democracy, which is, like I said, is the worst form of government before you have total tyranny.
Starting point is 02:40:10 It's set up as a temporary government. And that's what people who want to be sovereign want to get out of that. They want to get out of that system. And you can do it, but you've got to do a lot of study because they will test you. These powers that be will test you in every way they can. And yes, you don't have to pay taxes because there is no actual. law that says you have to pay taxes if you uh there's a documentary video called america freedom to fascism i won't i've seen that yeah it's great video and they say in you there's no law
Starting point is 02:40:46 so if colby if you watch this it's called america to fascism no america freedom to fascism oh freedom to fascism america freedom to fascism you got to put the link in the description for people Okay. So that's a nutshell really of what what the sovereignty issue is. They want to be away from this this fascist corporate de facto military basically military run government. So that's what people are doing trying to get sovereign. And if we can get enough people to be sovereign, then it minimizes their power control over you. And, you know, the system that has you bound in the ways that it does now. So if you're sovereign, you're a sovereign citizen of your, that means that basically what, that you're in control of yourself,
Starting point is 02:41:44 you're not governed by the United States government? Correct. Okay. So, but you're still in the United States. You're still in the landmass of the northern America. You're in it, but you're without it.
Starting point is 02:41:58 It's under, that's under, 96 code title 281746 because you can be within it and without it or in it and in it so to speak that's another actual section in the code okay so i understand so you're here and you're are you a sovereign it depends on how you sign your name also you got to sign it without the united states without prejudice without recourse i even signed my uh driver's license without prejudice so you don't want to be responsible for certain things that are that are handed you forced upon you actually and uh doing it without prejudice is one of those things so it's a lot of study dude and if i can't put up you know things and things to show you and what it is it's it's kind of it kind of makes it harder for you to understand it all but it is created at birth. You Matt Cox at capital letters. He has a strong incorporation that they create a birth
Starting point is 02:43:05 to control you. Okay. So the question was, what is the benefit? Well, guess what? There's a group of folks right now that have started the Continental Bank, and they've got their own continentals, their own money, actually, getting away from the Federal Reserve notes. Because the Federal Reserve Bank, it's not a bank, has no reserves, it is in federal, it's a private corporation. Right. Corporated, you know, Federal Reserve Act and all that. But who owns it? Who owns it?
Starting point is 02:43:42 Actually, it's the Vatican. Vatican controls it. Believe it or not. I know you smile, but they control it. Okay. Well, that's another video. With England under Magnicarta. a that's a whole different seminar okay so so what is so once again but what is the benefit
Starting point is 02:44:07 this is why i tell you this this is why karen hudis who was uh she was an attorney a whistleblower uh you could pull her up she was uh she worked for the i mf uh and she actually said that every tax collected by the irs because the irs is a collection of for the Fed. All taxes go through the Federal Reserve. They go to England, where England takes a 40% cut, and the Vatican takes a 60% cut of all taxes paid by Americans. So who controls? Okay. So what I'm going to... So what is the, um, what is the benefit to being a sovereign citizen well the benefit is a you learn how to get your property off tax rule so you don't have to pay taxes on the property so you want to do what's called an allodial title land patent and joy joy to get your property off taxes you want to get your property even separate from the system if you go to court you there are certain things that you can do and do say that well let you get out of this you know out of the situation that you got into um there's a lot of things
Starting point is 02:45:34 you can put a private uh license on your car because when you first get a brand new car you've got to get that what's called the managed factor certificate of origin which is the actual birth certificate to the vehicles the mco most people sign everything away and they send it to you know i live in florida so they send it to tallahassee right so They are the actual trustee of the vehicle. So they can tell you where to park, how fast you can go, what this you can do, you can't do this, whatever. They're the trustee of the vehicle. You want to own your own vehicle completely so you don't fall under the jurisdiction of the corporate entity,
Starting point is 02:46:15 which is, you know, the county or the state or whatever it is. So then you can put your own plates on it. And if you put your own plates, you don't fall under the jurisdiction where a cop can stop you. You know, that's one thing. I mean, it goes on and on. There's a whole bunch of benefits. You want to get away also from Federal Reserve notes. That's why this group, they started their own continental banks and their own continental,
Starting point is 02:46:41 I don't want to say dollar bills, but they're dollar bills for all intents of purposes. So they've created their own system. You want to be in the United States, within the United States. Yeah. Yeah. And that's another thing I'd love to show you, but I can't show you anything. I don't know how to do that to show you. What's the name of the group?
Starting point is 02:47:07 Well, they don't really have a name in the sense that we're just sovereign and we're separate from the system. So they don't have an actual name. Do you hear that? It's all right. They're doing the lawn over here. Oh, that's all right. Nobody's watching this program because they're expecting professionalism. Nobody. If they are, they've, they've long since gone on, moved on to other channels.
Starting point is 02:47:31 They've been so sorely disappointed that they've said, you know, I'm, I can't do this. I'm going to go watch Graham Steffen or meet Kevin or somebody. Now, you can go on, he's got YouTube videos you can listen to, call the T-R-O-show, T-H-R-O-H-O-H- Show, the T-R-O-H-S show. Um, but I'd like to maybe, uh, if I could send you later on, some Continentals to look at, you know, the actual dollar bills and stuff. So I don't know, maybe you can put it posted with the, but what are you buying with these, these things? You're going into Walmart and buying stuff with them? Yeah. Because in another document, I could show you that you, you, you don't need to use actual legal tender federal reserve notes, um, in the system. Um, they've already been approved by the. way by the by the US Treasury to be able to do this so is this what you went to prison for like like being the sovereign citizen it was for the tax thing no it's tax things 1099 oh ID stuff that's a whole different ball game whole different ball game okay all right so you you do know that I've known many guys that have been sovereign citizens that got indicted for like activated
Starting point is 02:48:55 right when you don't know what they were doing when you don't know what what you're doing like I said they will test you in every way so I knew you got a you got a study for years and years before you attempt anything you're right these guys were indicted for like tax evasion they went to trial like they did the whole thing about the you don't have jurisdiction I'm a sovereign citizen yeah you can't do it that way see you're causing a controversy and conflict what you have to do is conditionally accept everything there's doing and upon proof of claim you know what I'm saying so you take it kind of like kung fu you take the energy of the enemy and use it against them all right right you're saying okay I you give me this I conditionally accept that upon proof of claim that such and such
Starting point is 02:49:46 and such and such but you can't fight them right on head on and start arguing women that's what they want They want you to start arguing. That creates the controversy. So these guys were indicted. And then when they were sentenced, the judge, I remember the judge said, listen, you know, I hear you. And once you finish your federal sentence, you can contact ICE and you can let them know what country you want to be deported to. Like, I mean, it was just, it was so common. I was like, the what?
Starting point is 02:50:22 He's like, yeah, can you believe? I was like, well, I mean, you did tell him that, you know, you weren't a citizen. But, you know, the other thing that kills me is these, you know, guys get arrested and they go to, they go to prison. Like, like, if you're from Mexico and you're a Mexican and you come here and you break the law, they'll indict you, they will try you, they will throw you in prison. So how does being a sovereign citizen help that you, as far as, you know, legally concerned? Like how does that, how are you going to be in a position to say, hey, these laws don't apply to me? Will they apply to people from Canada and Mexico and Cuba and, you know, England and France? Like anybody that comes to the United States and breaks the law, they're going to put them on trial and throw them in jail.
Starting point is 02:51:12 Right, but they would not, they did not, they wanted to be in the system. And they want to be, and I say citizens, they didn't not want to separate themselves or they didn't know enough to know to separate themselves from the system and do a declaration of that. I do a declaration, basically a social compact that that's what the pilgrims did with England. Remember, they did a social compact. You do a separation. Say, okay, I'm going to live over here separately, privately, privately, quietly. quietly and I don't want to be part of that system that tries to entangle me whether it's in the court system or give me tickets or whatever it is I'm going to get myself off the rolls
Starting point is 02:51:58 but my property off the tax rolls everything it's separation but you still ended up going to prison yes I did but they wouldn't let me do certain things either you know what I mean they stifled me from doing certain things then they would stifle everybody no i did some some things wrong because look see this is the thing this is a practice just like a law of practice means you are to practice it and i don't have the time to practice this all the time you know what i mean people just don't have it it's like playing guitar you get to practice it every day to become good well to get locked up for a long time yeah i know that but the thing is to get good
Starting point is 02:52:44 in a courtroom you gotta practice it all the time by getting in trouble all the time and no one wants to do that you know what i'm saying so you don't know certain things all the time to say in a courtroom in front of the judge you know what i'm saying not really but i i hear you i want to believe you you have to practice this a lot and and it's just not um is for a lot of people it's not feasible. Everybody's working every day, you know, everyone's doing other things. They don't have time to get all this down pat and remember it
Starting point is 02:53:19 once you're in front of a judge. You follow? Do you know anybody that has successfully? Successfully gotten in trouble and gotten all of their charges dismissed by being a sovereign citizen?
Starting point is 02:53:36 Yeah, I mean, through the years I've heard it through the grapevine, yeah. I don't know them personally, but Yeah, you've heard of certain people who did this and that. Yeah, a lot of times. Hmm. I question it. I question it.
Starting point is 02:53:55 Hey, it's a road less traveled, man. You got to really want to, you know, a lot of people want to stay economic slaves. I mean, you know, it's up to you. It's a lot of learning. It's a lot of studying. You literally almost have to be your own attorney. Because if you hire an attorney, and it says it's under Corporate Jurisiccunda, Volume 7, Section 4, an attorney and client relationship, that when you hire an attorney, you become a ward of the court,
Starting point is 02:54:26 like someone who is of unsound mind or like a baby, and that his first loyalty is to the public, the court, the judge, and then the client. so you're fourth so you may have given this attorney all this money and you're fourth on the totem pole of importance to him he's got to play in that game in that in that courtroom all the time so he's got to do what the judge in the court really wanted them to do and they bar they're bar attorneys and what is a bar stand for British accreditation registry and they're all attorneys if you look at their card they are esquires and what is esquire is the title of British nobility so they're all agents of the crown I know that sounds crazy but it is what it is okay remember the thing what was the thing about the flag well the flag is the
Starting point is 02:55:28 military oh the the gulfringe flag yeah yeah that's a multi-maritime flag yeah that's and multi-maritime flag. And the flag itself is a garrison flag. It's a garrison military flag. It's not the flag of peace, which is the civilian flag, which is totally different. Can you pull that up on your computer? I can pull it up on my phone and show people. All right.
Starting point is 02:55:56 Pull up. Pull up the civilian flag. Okay. Flag of peace. Hmm, historic flag of our ancestors, the United States civil flag myth. You see it? It says it's the myth. They're going to try and discredit everything.
Starting point is 02:56:22 Do you see it there? Do you see a flag? Yeah, that's it there. It's totally different than our flag. that's the civilian flag and what flag are we using it's a military garrison flag it's an animal team maritime flag if if it has the gold fringe flag a gold fringe around it miss a misunderstanding about flags both real and fantasy based abound in the a Gis
Starting point is 02:57:04 Excellagic Jesus world as they do in most fields I can barely in our modern world of the internet
Starting point is 02:57:15 conspiracists well they're going to discredit everything but I didn't make it up I didn't make the flag up this would be you know way back in the listen to how they're describing this
Starting point is 02:57:27 conspiracist cooks and politicians, religious leaders, and scholars all by to prove the existence of our own pet version, or sorry, of our, oh, of their own, oh, Jesus Christ, version of the reality without filters or actual facts and real research. I don't know Chris this is on the internet it's got to be right well so this look this is a fasci right okay this is a fascied head with a bundle of sticks
Starting point is 02:58:11 right now it's what it was derived from the Roman Empire and then Hitler used it and Mussolini used it now again what do you see
Starting point is 02:58:32 get out of here it's right there I've never noticed that is that real dude that's house representatives of course it's real those are the fasci
Starting point is 02:58:49 huh I don't know listen if everybody pull up their most representatives Pull up the House of Representatives. Oh, God. See?
Starting point is 02:59:02 Look. It represents world fashion. Or there it is. Look. Huh. I've ever noticed that before. I don't know. So these people are going to say that we're cooks and all that because they have to.
Starting point is 02:59:34 They can't agree with it. Listen, if everybody becomes sovereign citizens, who's going to pay taxes? Like I said, all the taxes that are paid are going to England and then to the Vatican. Well, somebody's paying for this shit. Yeah. We just print money and print money and print money. We're doing it now. That's another video.
Starting point is 03:00:03 That's another scene. We're going to wrap this video up because we're going to do another one on money, but we're going to do another one. The next video we're going to do is going to be on aliens. Okay. Again, it's hard to show you some cool shit, man. I get it. That's why you need your own channel.
Starting point is 03:00:24 Well, I wanted to show you this real quick before. we uh I don't know if you can see this all right this is my the thing I got for me we've gotten the birth certificate and the Q sub numbers right and the Q sub number if you could see that's the Q sub number this is the symbol that it's trading under and this is the net assets and fund 32.32 billion dollars right that's a major QSIP number and that was as of 2011 you see it right there yeah this is 2022 so now that's gone up from what is the QSIP number again it's an international trading number Want to see the one?
Starting point is 03:01:27 Want to see the one for my court case? Because you have one too. No, you can explain all that with the money. In the money video, we're going to do a whole other one on the money with the money video. Okay. Because that's what you're saying they're trading our birth certificates and our court cases and everything. They're trading it on some kind of market and they're valuable and that that's how the government is funded. Something like that, right?
Starting point is 03:01:55 Everybody's, you know, everyone's tapping into the prison system, everybody. I mean, you've got to read Gene Keating and the prison treat that he has. It's incredible. And there's another, look it up right now. It's called Trading Prisoners Like Cattle. Put it in Google. Trading prisoners like cattle, pull it up. And it'll explain to you exactly what they're doing.
Starting point is 03:02:16 Okay, well, we can talk about this. We'll talk about this in the next video. I have a question for you. Have you ever seen? A Handmaid's Tale? No. I heard of it. I haven't seen it, though.
Starting point is 03:02:30 Do you have Hulu? If it's on the computer, I have it. I don't have TV because I really don't have a time. I work all the time. If you watched Hulu, if you watched Handmaid's Tale, there's a, it basically, it's about, it's like a, there's a group, a political, group that ends up taking over the United States.
Starting point is 03:02:59 So it takes over basically almost all of the United States. There are some cities and some areas that are holding out. But for the most part, and part of it is that basically it's that women stop having children. Like the birth rate drops dramatically. Have you heard of Migtown? What's that? Men going their own way. They stop dating.
Starting point is 03:03:25 They said, fuck this shit. It's tired of the Feminazi bullshit that's going on in the country. I hear you. I hear you. But what I'm saying is that this is basically, so you understand that like the world population is slowing down, right? A lot of countries are just their, like China and Russia, and there's a lot of countries that are basically like their population is stagnant and dropping. Right. The testosterone level of men is going down and, you know, the abortions are going on.
Starting point is 03:03:55 up and it's crazy. Well, and people, people, I don't know about all that, but I know that people are choosing to have fewer children. Right. So we're not, they're not repopulating fast enough. And so what's going to happen? And so anyway, anyway, one of the other things is that in basically in Handmaid's Tale, people just stop, they, there's people, some women are just not able to get pregnant. And so what happens is the birth rate just declines. And of course, they're saying it's because of, you know, pollution and all the stuff that you put in foods and all the, all the preservatives and all the different chemicals. And so they break, basically, there's like a military coup in the United States and they take
Starting point is 03:04:38 over the United States and they base it on some kind of a, of a Christian fundamentalism. And they, they break up women into like three or four categories. Like, you fall in one of these categories and that's it. They don't, they don't let them read anymore, write anymore. They don't, like, you're either, you're either like a wife or. Sounds like jashism, Matt. It's pretty, it's very interesting. And then the handmaids are women that get pregnant and give the children over to the elites to rate, you know, for their, as their children.
Starting point is 03:05:16 So they go from family to family, get pregnant, have babies, move on to the next family. And they're handmaids. it's an amazing series you've got to watch it i remember watching the original movie that came out but it's all based on a book but it's super interesting you'd love it you love it really yeah it's great anyway for some reason just so you know the united states has been turned into districts can you see that no longer states it's all districts i know it's hard to see sorry about that No, I, um, I don't know why they're districts, but I don't know. For example, all right, this is Florida.
Starting point is 03:05:58 Can you see? Yeah. Yeah, I see Florida. It's all been turned into districts. Why? Let's start at the beginning, bro. Like, where were you born? I was born in New York City.
Starting point is 03:06:15 Um, actually, this is what happened. Fidel Castro came into Cuba. in January of 1959. And my father could see the riding of the wall what's happening. And they decided that I was not going to be born in Cuba. I was going to, you know, they wanted to go to New York because my mother was an American.
Starting point is 03:06:33 And my father was Cuban. He was in Havana. He was a law student. And it's funny how they met. He was dating a woman named Ida, who I'll tell you later, who she became. but Ida was dating him and she had to go to New York. This was during the, you know, when the mafia had the, you know, casinos and stuff.
Starting point is 03:06:56 And it was, it was a party town. And, um, Batista was the pre was the president of Cuba. This was before Fidel. Fidel, right. And, um, so she had to go to New York and she asked my, her friend, who was my mother, Gina, to, you know, watch her apartment. And she said that her boyfriend would probably come over. And, you know, apparently he did because here I am. So they started to, you know, entangle with each other, I guess.
Starting point is 03:07:31 And one thing led to another and they got married. So anyway, he, once Castro came in, he decided, you know, they both decided to guess that I would be born in New York City. So that's why I am an American. but they went back to Cuba after I was born in New York and they you know things just weren't getting any better they they could see things were kind of getting bad so they moved to Puerto Rico and that's why I lived till they got divorced I think I was like four or five but I didn't speak English so I was like seven and my mother she lost custody of of me because she had opened up, which in 1963, women didn't do this.
Starting point is 03:08:19 She opened up a gay bar in 1963, which women didn't do. You know, this is in 1960s. In Puerto Rico? Yeah, in Puerto Rico. And so because of that, she had lost custody of me. It was not something that women did. And the judge, you know, the judge of course, didn't look favor upon that at the time. so custody was given to my grandmother who my mother felt she was being screwed so when she
Starting point is 03:08:53 was given the the weekend or whatever to have you know visitation with me she actually kidnapped me from Puerto Rico went to New York and I didn't see my father until I was 18 again so I mean he searched for me for seven years but he couldn't find me plus he had the language barrier. So what she did was, I guess we lived in New York in her apartment for a couple years, but eventually I went to live with my cousins in Long Island. And, you know, I ended up going to school. I failed first grade because I didn't speak English. I didn't know anything of what was going on. I failed first grade. Did you? Because I was stupid. You were dyslexic. I said this less than my brothers and sisters say I used to tell them I'm a learned disability and they go, yeah, stupidity.
Starting point is 03:09:50 Yeah, well, I had the language as a ability. This is way for ESL. What is it, English as a Sanker language, ESL stuff. Right. So it was, I learned basically English by watching TV. You know, I dream of Jeannie, Gentle Bend, Octari and all the, you know, Batman Superman show. was basically, because no one sat me down and, you know, this is what you say when you say English, no. So anyway, I lived with my cousins for about two years and live with my, and then I was moved to
Starting point is 03:10:24 my grandmother in Connecticut in a place called West Cornwall, Connecticut, a little itty-bitty town. And she had changed my name from Marrero to Goddard, so he couldn't find me. so she was married to Neville Goddard Jr. I don't know if you know named Neville Godder. He's on YouTube a lot. He's into manifestations
Starting point is 03:10:46 and, you know, estoteric stuff. But if you look him up on YouTube, he's there. I mean, he's been dead a long time, but they got all his teachings there. But she was married to his son. So she gave me his name when I was growing up. My mother was not meant to be a mother. I mean, she, she was, you know, she was an actress and a singer and, uh, I remember that.
Starting point is 03:11:12 And I mean, yeah, she, she just, I sent you a picture of her, right? Yeah. Yeah. And, but I remember you talking about her being an actress. What a myth. I mean, um, she had no idea about business. She, she was just a wreck. I mean, from, from a, I mean, she smoke and drank, which, you know, which was a wreck like a like a free spirit sorry excuse me like a like a free spirit wreck or like a like a an angry no no no she wasn't angry she was just um any success she would start to get she would sabotage her own success you know okay she um and she didn't have a firm grasp of reality at all I mean, as I was growing, when I finally did move with her, I'll tell you later, when I was like 14 or so, 13, she was constantly saying she was going to have a, you know, go back to Hollywood and do a talk show with Sophia Loren and this and that. And it was just a nightmare to live with this every fucking day.
Starting point is 03:12:21 And anyway, she was not meant to be a mother. She was also a blackbook madam for a while. You know, she had a, she was a madam. I remember this. I remember you talking about this. Yeah. And she knew a lot of, like, a low level, I was just saying low level, but lower on the known level of actors, you know, like, you know, Larry Gates, who was in the body snatchers and, you know, she was supposed to marry Steve Allen at one time, believe it or not.
Starting point is 03:13:00 And she knew Orson Wells and a whole bunch of people, but she never could make it as an actress. I mean, it's a very tough business. Very tough. And she was a good singer. She could sing. But man, there was no, you know, AGT at the time, you know. It was hard to make it.
Starting point is 03:13:20 I wanted to let you guys know that I have a Patreon account. If you're interested in joining the Patreon account, it's got three tiers. The top tier, you actually get a different con man painting every single month. If you're already joined and you're already supporting me, I really appreciate that. If you haven't joined yet and you're interested in joining, I'm going to leave the contact information for Patreon in the description. Thank you very much for watching the video. But anyway, she moved me to West Cornel, Connecticut to love my grandmother, and I lived there for about five. years. And I didn't have my father. I didn't have my mothers. And I have no brothers and sisters. So I had
Starting point is 03:14:00 nobody. And basically my grandmother worked seven days a week. She worked five days a week at the welfare department and two days at the Emporium coffee shop flipping burgers. So I just basically raised myself. You know, I wasn't, um, I had some friends, you know, we hang around and stuff, but I had nobody like at home. You know what I mean? Right. So, um, you're like a latchkey kid. Yeah, basically come home and there was nobody there. She had 25 cats, though, and two dogs. And my mother had bought me a horse to kind of compensate her not being there.
Starting point is 03:14:37 So, um, that's a lot of cats. It's a lot of cats, too. They were indoor and outdoor cats. But, uh, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't, I can't complain. It wasn't a bad, uh, childhood. I did a lot of fishing, you know. It was a, it was a great place. I didn't happen to get all of this.
Starting point is 03:14:55 I didn't have a bike at first. You know, you know how kids always have a bike. And, you know, I was there from, like, the age of, I think, 9, 10, 11, 12, whatever, 8, whatever. And one Christmas, she buys me a Puju 10-speed bike, but says that I can't ride it until I'm 16. So she brings it to Connecticut. This is your mom. My mom. Okay.
Starting point is 03:15:23 And then brings it back to New York. At 16, you want a car. You don't want a fucking Pujo 10 speed. Right. I mean, she'd visit me once a year, you know, more or less. You know, she was not, she was never made to be a mother at all. But she was trying to put off-Broadway shows together and all this other bullshit she was trying to do. You know, she'd come up to visit me with a director.
Starting point is 03:15:48 His name was Emilio Brutzo. He was an Italian guy. He was a director. and whatever, you know. The next thing that happened, there was a major thing in my life. The house burnt down. It was an electrical fire in the house, and I woke up at five in the morning. And there was smoke throughout the house.
Starting point is 03:16:09 And I tried to go down the staircase, and it was just the smoke coming up, and I could see all the cats are basically dead already. And I, you know, banged on her door, said, look, we got to get up. We got to get out of here. Luckily, she had just rented the lower part behind the house to a guy named Nathan who was able to put a ladder up so I could get out. But what happened was when she went to get out from the upper stair down, he opened the door to the bottom of the downstairs, and the flames came up and reached to her. and she fell off the ladder broke back and got all burnt it was a mess and she ended up being in the hospital for quite a while
Starting point is 03:17:00 and I ended up living with some friends from school for I don't know a year or so and my mother didn't visit me for that you know all the dogs got killed the the cats got killed but the horse was fine you know he was outside But I used to have a paper out also back then. I delivered, you know, 5 in the morning, the Waterbury Republican. And I would do it on the weekends on horseback. So it was kind of cool. On the horseback?
Starting point is 03:17:34 Yeah, it was kind of pony expressious. Oh, how old are you? I was 11, 11 that time, 12, 11, 12. so after that my mother finally gets some money from her mother who had saved money she she was in vaudeville way back you know you know vaudeville in the 20s so she had saved up the money and she was going to live with us in a place called wilting connecticut and she rented this beautiful house on the lake that was owned at the time by lillian and russell hoban who were cartoonists They did cartoon things for kids, books, right?
Starting point is 03:18:16 And they were going through Europe. So the house was being rented at the time for like a thousand bucks, which this is 1973, roughly. So this is, I guess, the market price at that time. So we moved there. And I call him my stepfather, but he was never married to my mother. His name is Bill Solon. Bill was a brilliant guy, a really brilliant guy. He had gotten a scholarship to Harvard University in 1959.
Starting point is 03:18:46 Now, the way the scholarships were, there are two, one for male, Harvard, and the other one for female, Ratcliffe. And he won in 1959. So this guy was really brilliant, but he was a bit of a savant. He couldn't drive. All he wanted to do was handicapped race horses. and he had been in the CIA, right? So he's smart as a whip. CIA grabs them up and I had always asked him, you know,
Starting point is 03:19:17 what did you do in the CIA? And he said, basically, I would brief bomber pilots before they'd blown on their buying rates during Vietnam. But all his friends were Air America, you know. And I don't know if you know what Air America is. They were bringing all the drugs into the country through the CIA. Right. So I learned later.
Starting point is 03:19:38 I didn't know then at 12 years old. But I learned later all his friends were basically Air America guys. So this is what happened to me at the age 12, 13. Get a little of this. He's a massive gambler. Didn't hold a job other than bartending every now. And all his money would go to, you know, bet on horses. So my mother would work as a waitress, whatever,
Starting point is 03:20:05 And I would work too. I was working as a dishwasher at a place called a Chaucer House in Maryland stuff. But anyway, what happened was the circle of friends he ran around with was a guy named Bob Settner, Jack Harrington, Jackie Kilcullen, and a guy named Manigambino. Okay. Now, all of them were in debt, bad debt. And Mani Gambino was kind of like the black sheep of the family, I guess, for the Gambino family. And he said, he came up with the idea, why don't we do this? Look, let's say that you guys kidnap me.
Starting point is 03:20:53 And then what we'll do is we'll ask the family for money. Well, you know, we'll blackmail the family. And they thought it was a great idea. Seems like a good idea. What could go wrong? So they start with the letters and the phone calls. And, you know, this is, this is 1973-ish, four-ish, something like that. I don't know if forget the date.
Starting point is 03:21:20 But so they started in with that. And to make a long story short, what happens is two weeks later, Manny Gambino was found in the trunk of a car, like Wardy Airport with it. You know, he's shot to death. so I don't understand what do you mean shot today I thought they kidnapped him oh they kidnapped him but he ends up in the trunk of a car in LaGuardia they were his friend he came up with the idea so would the family not want to pay for to get no something happened something else happened we don't know now years later I in investigating what you know what would happen two things happen one thing is a nine a guy named Eddie O'clock O'Brien was said to have killed Manny Gambino, which doesn't make sense because O'Brien is Irish and Camino, of course, Italian. So I don't know what the connection was there. That's one article.
Starting point is 03:22:19 And it said that John Gotti had killed O'Brien. That's why he got to be the head of the family, right? The second thing is I heard, I'm not heard, but read that Bob Settner had actually killed Manny Gamma. gave me an over an argument. Whatever, I don't know, I was 12, 13, whatever it is. So my mother was always ushering me out of the living room to get away from the TV because, you know, it was all lower the place. I was on the TV, it was, you know, on the news and whatever.
Starting point is 03:22:54 So he gets eventually sentenced, Bill does, to three years in prison, does a year and a half at Allenwood Penitentiary up in Pennsylvania. Now, I went to visit them one time, and I remember penitentiaries were not like the way they are now. He said that he couldn't walk past this yellow line. And at the time, penitentiaries are not like that today. So it must have been kind of, I think, like a campish kind of thing, a Loloa camp. I don't know what it was. But that's what I remember at the time. I, you know, I was in the medium. And, you know, I was in the medium and they have a it's you know you've heard the song like walking the line so i mean and there's basically like in the medium there was a red line in certain spots you just couldn't pass it
Starting point is 03:23:45 like this is someplace inmates don't go past this line it's funny at the time he was in prison with the watergate guys mcruiter okay Howard hunt nice all of those guys and um e howard hunt i don't know if you know if you study the JFK assassination he was part of that too he was deep inside of that let's let's let's speak with you let's take what so so anyway he gets he gets sentenced to three years and does a year and a half um so did uh jack harrington and uh bob setner gets sentenced to 15 years does three years and they try to poison him in prison supposedly with hot cocoa. So I don't know who tried to poison him, but the mob, I guess, somehow. But Bob Sender was always good to me. I mean, he always got me rock concert tickets and stuff.
Starting point is 03:24:42 It was, you know, I love the guy. He was great. I mean, he got me kiss tickets and Erosmith tickets and, you know, Earth went to fire. Everything I wanted to see, he would get it. So he was cool to me. So from then, Bill gets out. And, um, we, have to move because actually what my mom did was to kind of hide me was she was able to like smash the car collect some insurance and she immediately put me in an eastern military academy and hunting in Long Island so I lived on this it was the former estate of Otto Khan who was a big you know like Council for relations guy kind of like a rough Macaphafella kind of guy, but he, I guess he sold his place to this, you know, to the military academy.
Starting point is 03:25:38 And I was living there for a year. But she couldn't pay it all the time. So, I mean, she ran out of money. And so they kind of kicked me out. We ended up being homeless in New York in the wintertime, which is fucking freezing, if you don't know. We were living in a car and a ramble. in the station wagon and um so then she i don't know how she did it but she got more money and was able to put me back so i lived i continued living there at the there at the at the
Starting point is 03:26:14 military school so then the year was up my cousin was the living was there too he went his name was rich he was the most obnoxious asshole you could ever meet i mean even his sisters who my cousins Lorraine and Allison couldn't take him I mean we all kind of said look when we grew up
Starting point is 03:26:35 we don't ever want to talk to this fucking asshole again Richards is not going to be part of our life in any way he's just Paul Paul who Paul what
Starting point is 03:26:47 Cockalotica puss what's his name Paul in prison the name sounds familiar with the bald head he was there for kidnapping somebody what about him
Starting point is 03:27:00 was he more obnoxious than him oh yeah oh yeah geez this guy was in time Paul was super yeah no Richard was was too much way worse yeah oh yeah way worse so go ahead no man
Starting point is 03:27:19 like when you graduate high school like when you know you're oh I'm not even there yet we moved around because she thought the way they were thinking was the mob was that come and kill us I mean she didn't know what the hell was going to happen so she had to get rid of me like put me in school put me somewhere where nobody knew who I really was or whatever you know and because my name was still got her it wasn't Marrero you know right so and my father was still looking for me I don't know he he gave me up after seven years, so I don't know, I guess
Starting point is 03:27:56 he wasn't looking for me anymore, but from there, we went to New Jersey. We lived in Bergen County, New Jersey, a place called Westwood. Boring, God, it was horrible. And I remember, let's see, the exorcist had just come out then. How old were you then, Matt?
Starting point is 03:28:18 The Exorcist? Exorcist. um 1974 five oh it'd have been five five five or six and from after that let's see we moved from uh bill was getting out so
Starting point is 03:28:36 we were he had to be next to a race track so we moved to laurel maryland because they hold a prequeness there you know it's public a racetrack so we moved to laurel maryland and i got a job as as a dishwasher at a restaurant. I'm gonna look at a job as a waitress, and so he could, you know, do his gambling.
Starting point is 03:29:01 And he, I don't know, he's back, just to move back real quick, there was a place in between, I don't know where it was, if it was Laurel, where he had supposed to have been taking this money from this guy to bet on these particular horses. And he didn't bet on those horses. bet on his own horses, right? And the horse won. And the other guy's horse won. And so we had to get out of town again. It was crazy, man. It was just, it's hard to have any kind of high school or any kind of school when you're constantly like leaving because the mob's after you or somebody's
Starting point is 03:29:41 after you. So, and in anyway, I think that's how we ended up in Laurel, Maryland. And I ended up there for a while and um i was i think 16 by now 17 something like that and my mother wanted to take me to europe right so we're going to go to europe and we're all excited i was going to take my classes early all my all my you know tests and everything and everything was going to be cool well at the last minute she couldn't go she had not enough money to do it so I took what little money I had, which was $500 at the time, and I went to Europe. So she, because she had already bought the tickets. She couldn't get a refund.
Starting point is 03:30:26 So I said, look, I took my classes early, my tests early. I told everybody in my classes, I'm going to Europe. I got to go to freaking Europe. So I have a backpack, and I go to Europe. And I go for six weeks. And I backpack all through London. I went to, I learned in a Heathrow Airport. I went to London for a while.
Starting point is 03:30:50 I saw the Queen Silver Jubilee. And from there, I went to Dover, took the, whatever the boat is, to Calais, France. And from there, I went to Monte Carlo, Monaco, I mean, Paris first. And then I went to Monaco and Monte Carlo. So, first time I ever saw naked women on a beach, I was like, yeah, I like this place. This is fucking cool. Free Internet. way free internet yeah and then uh let's see what happened i went to spain italy ran out of
Starting point is 03:31:26 money in italy fun funniest things is she had a friend in uh in rome named jesire rotandi who was able to give me money to get back to england to get my plane you know to get uh to get back home but i took an interrail pass you know took a took a train around you know those countries and then made it back home. Took the wrong flight home, but at least I got home. And it was quite a trip. And when I got back, it was August, right around, see, yeah, it was July, I got back. And the next month, Elvis Presley died, August, 1977.
Starting point is 03:32:09 I'm sure that had nothing to do with you. No. I wouldn't feel bad about it. So then we were totally out of money in every way. I mean, Bill wasn't working. She couldn't continue working. It wasn't willing to work or something. And she would just kept on doing this, you know, if I were only in California,
Starting point is 03:32:30 and I could do this show and constantly, you know, Sophia Loren and this and that, whatever. And I said, look, you know what? Do your thing. I'm going to get the job at the Pimmical Racetrack. And I became a hot walker for about. six months eight months I quit school and became a hot walker and um a hot walker is the guy who walks the horses when they come off the racetrack you know if they've been exercising in the morning so you're up from a five in the morning and you're exercising the horses until the race starts
Starting point is 03:33:02 like I think like 12 o'clock one o'clock whatever it is and then you you take those horses and you walk them and you're freaking walking all day long every day it's exhausting till six so at night. And I was living right there on the racetrack above the horses. And there was nothing in the room but me and a cot with a bottle lamp. It was a huge room. And so I just, I did that for about, I don't know, six months, seven months until the school year started again. And then I went back to school and they decided they're going to move because they were just broke completely. She was going to keep her promise that the letter that she had sent to my grandmother back when I was four saying you're going to meet him again when he's 18, I was just about
Starting point is 03:33:59 returning 18. So they decided to move to South Florida. So I met my father, they came down here and I met my father when I was 18. And I had long hair. glasses man I was like in my Led Zeppelin days you know what I'm saying if you guys didn't know I also do I do paintings and if you're interested in a painting I'm gonna leave my contact information in the description but beneath the video back to the video so he was like bald and never never you know had seen me before you know last time he saw me all was four or five years old and so First thing I did was get a haircut, you know, and get contact lenses because I had glasses at the time, you know, and big, thick glasses.
Starting point is 03:34:50 And so we were trying to assimilate our relationship a little bit and just, I guess, you know, get it together a little bit. But it was working, but it wasn't working, you know what I mean? It was like we were so different in certain ways, you know, I was more Americanized. He was more Cuban, he was, you know, he had a rough time learning English, a real rough time. And, you know, so he had been remarried to a girl named Lily. And Lily had come from a very high-end family in Columbia. Her father had started Avianca Airlines. And he died really young when he was like 35, something like that, a heart of that.
Starting point is 03:35:40 And the uncle stole the business from her and her mother and left him basically penniless. So that's another story. I don't really know all of it about. But back to Ida real quick. Ida had married a guy named Tito Puente, which you don't know the name if you're not Spanish, but Tito Puente was a big band leader. And he wrote the song, Oya Como, Va, by, you know, Santana did it. So he had written that song and a few others, but he was a big band leader. So she married him and, you know, she was like a real good friend of men to me.
Starting point is 03:36:23 And she, you know, I call her all the time from prison. She ended up dying while I was in prison, but she was in her 80s. But, you know, my mother died early. My mother died when I got, when they, when she came down here, she died when she was like, 56. I was 21. I did some modeling at the time, you know, made her happen. I remember that. You didn't you, weren't you a model or something like that? Yeah, I was a model. I was trying to study acting and stuff. But acting for me, I didn't like it as much. I like screenwriting. It took a two-year course from a Hollywood script writing institute and how to write motion pictures.
Starting point is 03:37:00 And I liked it a lot better. It's just getting it financed after that is really, you know, the hard stuff. But, you know, it is what it is, but writing was kind of, it was fun. I liked it, but I just haven't kept up with it. I had like 13 screenplays, but I lost most of them. A friend of mine, Marcella, she has, I think, like, five of them that she was able to keep, you know. But that's it, you know, when I was 21, let's see. When I was 20, actually, Lily got me a job at the Omni Hotel working at a disco. Disco was hot at that time.
Starting point is 03:37:39 I mean, 1979, 80. Yeah, disco was pumping, dude. I mean, Saturday Night Live had just come out with, you know,
Starting point is 03:37:48 John Travolta and whatever, and Donna Summer was hot. Man, it was fun, and the women were beautiful and freaking gourd. You know, it was just, you know,
Starting point is 03:37:59 the 80s were the 80s. But you were in Miami. Yeah, I was in Miami now. And, um, discovering women you're you know really for the first time you know and it was fun it was a lot of fun yeah they're a lot of fun so yeah well okay so then what um so what happened then what was what was the
Starting point is 03:38:23 first time come on you got in trouble oh that is until i'm a 28 well let me let me build up to that Okay. All right, so disco is pumping, and then it's not. It's like it went up and boom, one day, they got rid of the place I worked at was a place called Scaramouche. I was the laser light operator, and it became a comedy club. It's like, dead. Everything was dead after, let's see, it was 1982, and I got a hot dog cart, and I sold hot dogs for, four years from 1980 to remember this i remember you saying the hot dog card and then there was an
Starting point is 03:39:09 issue with like where you were at or something or they yeah license or something or they changed the laws and they made it so um you had to constantly move the hot dog card around which was impossible it was a thousand pound machine you can't do that at night you know i was i was there at night i sold in front of a place called casanovas which was a you know a disco it continued on as a nightclub and um i would sold i would sell from five from uh 11 o'clock a night to five o'clock in the morning so there was nothing open i mean if you come right out of the disco you have to you know you're starving you want to not have to go to denny's and pay a tip and all that stuff you get a quick hot dog in the soda and you go home so i did that for four years and um
Starting point is 03:39:57 I don't know if you know South Florida at all, but at the time there was no I-75, there was no 595, there was no sawgrass mall, there was no the only thing out in the certain part of the West, there was only C.B. Smooth Park and a place called a Sportatorium.
Starting point is 03:40:15 So everything else was a place that you could go to go mudding, which is like, you know, you take a motorcycle out and, you know, you have fun, and all that. And I would go out there one time a week and sell hot dogs and sell out and then go back and do casanovas at night so what happened was i had developed i was made like 35 000 a year roughly not that much but it was not good i guess at that time and i'd
Starting point is 03:40:42 gotten a truck on credit but then my stepmother needed a car she wanted a car so i got i signed a car for her so she got a car then two friends of mine need a need a vehicle they said Can you get help me get a vehicle? So I helped another one get a Honda CRX. This is a straw man. This is what they're helping a straw man scam. No, no, no, no. It's not to do with that.
Starting point is 03:41:07 No, no, not a straw man. But when you start financing vehicles for other people in your name, because you have good credit, they call that a straw man scam. Yeah, but it's not the straw man thing you're thinking of that I will explain to you. No, I know. And the other guy wanted a ninja 600. motorcycle. So you've got four cars and a bike in your name. Yeah. So I got my truck. My stepmother Lily, she got a VW cabriolet at the time, which was a cool car, a Honda CRXSI and a Ninja 600
Starting point is 03:41:43 motorcycle. Now, something happened to everybody's life at one point in another where they can't afford to pay these things. So it would end up back in my lap. And so now, I'm, you know, I'm losing, A, the business, because, A, I've been doing it for four years and I'm tired, and they're changing the laws on me. So I guess it's time we'll move on. And I had already been doing foreclosures for a while in real estate. I knew foreclosures really well. And what do you mean doing foreclosures? Finding property.
Starting point is 03:42:21 I had been finding properties with a guy named Julio Gonzalez for about a couple years. We had, in one year, we did 14 houses, you know, that he bought. But he fucked me out of all of them because I didn't know enough to get an attorney and get a contract. And then, you know, I was still young. It was 20, 21, 22, 23, so on that. But learned a lot. But with foreclosures, I had learned when a property is really not being occupied, it's really left. the people have gone and this other guy latched on to me his name was abner rc and he just
Starting point is 03:43:04 he didn't know what i knew and he just fucked it up and he was driving oh i also had a bmw at the time forgot to tell you that those five guys so anyway what we would do is what i was doing anyway was I could find the foreclosures in the Liss Pendent stage. In Florida, there's LISPendant Default and Final Judgment. So I found them in the Lispendant stage. I would do my due diligence to try and find the person, but if I couldn't find them, they were either dead or they went back to Columbia or they were, whatever,
Starting point is 03:43:42 I would jimmy the door, open it, see how badly it was inside, do minor repairs or fixes, put it for rent. That does not sound illegal at all. So if you collect first, last insecurity, you know,
Starting point is 03:44:03 let's say rent is whatever, 800 a month and, you know, times three. You know, you do 10 of them a month. You're pulling in pretty good, you know?
Starting point is 03:44:13 Right now to other people's houses. I mean, I'm with you. I'm with you. I like it. I feel like it's illegal, but I'm okay with that. Go ahead. So how'd that work?
Starting point is 03:44:28 So Abner did not know, and I, you know, I would tell him what properties are good, which are not. And you don't fuck with a property that's very nicely done and repaired, and he did. And he got us in trouble because he was driving my car. Everything led back to me. So that was the first thing, because he, I wasn't sentenced to anything but probation because I'd never done anything before. You know, I didn't, I'm not into drugs and alcohol and all that bullshit. I don't smoke, I don't drink, I don't do alcohol, in drugs, I mean, so none of that was my thing.
Starting point is 03:45:09 So I was getting probation for, I think it was two years. And after that, let's see, what was the next thing? I did, what does it see, 25 years, 25 years went by. And a friend of mine, Jose, had hooked me up with a property foreclosure in Hidden Bay, which is Aventura, which is on the top floor. It was going to foreclosures. It was 40th's floor. Could see the ocean, could see the bay and everything. And one day he says, you know, I got this guy who does what's, you know, the checks for corporations.
Starting point is 03:45:51 And for multiple corporations, it's a company called ADP or something like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, ADP. Yeah. They do payroll taxes. And they always have a surplus of cash. And he said, they don't need it. I got my guy on the inside. He says, he can write you a check.
Starting point is 03:46:18 All you got to do is cash it. and we uh you know we we split uh whatever so reasonable i try that and i get busted because the checks are too big i think each check was like 40 no the 20 000 20 000 was two checks i trying to cash him yeah he he wanted me to catch him at a check cashing place i said okay i'd rather have deposited my account but he wanted to do it at the cash cash uh check check check cashing place so anyway i get busted and i so i understand like when you say you get busted did the cops show up like are you sitting there waiting for your cash and the cops walk in and grab you yeah check cashing place called the cops right away
Starting point is 03:47:05 you believe that couldn't believe it and i was charged with uttering yeah so i do let's see because I hadn't done anything in 25 years, you know, so I did what I do, a year of probation. But during that time, I had, oh, man, I didn't tell you about the DTC. Oh, that's a great one. All right, let me tell you about the DTC. What does DTC mean? Depository Trust Company. They're in New York City.
Starting point is 03:47:41 They're at 55 Water Street. They're in the same building. You actually get you cuse of number. numbers from. Okay. We'll talk about that. How's that? Well, they do settlements for multi-million dollar, you know, countries and companies around the world. I mean, into the quadrillion dollars, all right? But what we had gotten was the actual routing number to their account. And what you do is you take the back of the social, right? And on the back of the social has a letter and
Starting point is 03:48:16 eight numbers. And that letter is a routing number to a Federal Reserve Bank. The letters, I mean, the numbers are an account. So what we did was, what I did was actually, was take the numbers from the back of my social, put
Starting point is 03:48:33 it as the account number with the routing number of the DTC. You can look up DTC. They're huge. So how did you know to do this and why did you think like what what gave you the inclination to look at your social security card and just decide hey i think that this is a routing number to an account or a bank like why did you think that what well it's on the internet you can look it up the writing numbers on your back you look on the back of the social and it'll give you the list of all the federal reserve banks that they are okay what i'm saying to you is why did you you think that? Did you just suddenly, bam, it just bopped your head or first? We had those
Starting point is 03:49:18 sovereignty conference calls all the time. Okay, so it was a sovereignty. You skipped that. So, so, so this is the, the sovereign citizen. What is a sovereign citizen? Well, it's either you're an economic slave or you're a, you know, sovereign to the government. You either are an economic slave or you're not. I mean, you got to, it's where you're elite, you want your allegiance to be. See, if you're a U.S. citizen, the U.S. is actually a federal corporation. If you look up United States, full title 28, section 3,002, subsection 15A, says the United States is a, is a, is a corporation. And you being a citizen of it makes you an employee of that corporation, believe it or not. So you don't want to be that and makes you a slave within the system.
Starting point is 03:50:13 It's like being a slave to McDonald's, you know, it's, it's not where you want to be. So you want to be separate and a sovereign from that. But anyway, let me tell you what happened with the DTC. So I made out of checks, and the checks dude would clear like that. I wrote my friend Adrian Hines a check for 10. thousand dollars on a Friday night by Saturday morning nine o'clock it cleared I was like what the fuck and um but the thing what and we were doing ACH for cars you know getting paying the cars off ACH and um what does that mean ACA means it's done over the phone
Starting point is 03:51:00 they don't actually get a check or anything like that you're doing it over the phone through ACH right they actually create their own check yeah So because this is a long time ago. You know, you don't do that now. Like, but I remember. It's 2005, roughly. Right. So, like, I used to have a lease payment with, like, Audi, right?
Starting point is 03:51:19 Um, it was actually that it was Volkswagen. It was Audi. It was for my Audi, but it was through Volkswagen because Volkswagen owns Audi at that time. And they would, like, if it was due on the first, like, they didn't have the check by the first. They'd call me up and say, hey, do you want to just pay it over the phone? And I'd say, yes. And all I had to do was say, was given my routing. number and everything. They kept it on file. And they'd call me back on like the third or second or third
Starting point is 03:51:41 and say, hey. And what I realized was they were just creating a check and doing a phone verification for my signature. And then they were depositing it because I hadn't mailed the check yet. So because that's what you're talking about as far as that. So you were making these check. But you're doing it over the phone and giving them this routing number. They're creating the checks and then paying for things. Right. And we got the titles of the car in the mail like a week later. So the cars were paid off. These were for, you know, friends of mine that I knew. So, but the problem was everything would start reversing like a month later, except Best Buy's. And I think it's because they have the same transfer agent. I'm not quite sure. There were a couple times where
Starting point is 03:52:28 things did not reverse. And we, you know, was able to keep the stuff. It was, you know, it was pretty fun until until we try to buy a property for 6.3 million dollars and then you know secret service called the title company and said what's going on here what are you doing and that's we decided to stop i never got arrested for that though never never you know nothing happened with that um so what they do would the title company call you guys and say hey the secret service just called us and you just walked away and never went back change your phone number stopped answering calls picked up and moved but we did get some cool stuff you know got some stuff of best buy you know to uh washer dryers and things like that and just you know when
Starting point is 03:53:20 we spent like five six thousand dollars there is small stuff you know but it was fun all right so this is one i want to get to because i think it all kind of derives from um the uh the sovereign citizen thing. When did you first hear about what a sovereign citizen was and that the United States was a corporation that, you know, when did you hear about all this and how did that happen? Like, how did you get into that? Because you stated over that. Well, I actually, I, let's see, I knew back when I was selling hot dogs, a cop had given me a book called Nondare Call a conspiracy by Gary Allen, because I had cops that were my customers at selling hot dogs. And I read in that it was incredible.
Starting point is 03:54:11 I mean, it's a thin book, but the information, it was incredible. And it said basically one of the things that it doesn't matter who you vote for, Democrat or Republican, because they're both groomed by the Council and Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. So it doesn't matter who it is. It's a one-party system. And it's really from there, from, I. I think I was 22, 23, that I started to really see the world differently than I used to. I only voted once, and that's for Ronald Reagan.
Starting point is 03:54:41 I didn't vote for anybody else after that. It was all, it's all a TV movie, you know, it's all a show. It's a movie. But to answer your question, it wasn't until, let's see, when was it? I learned about the Strawman thing about 2004. that's when I really started learning about the somergy stuff and you know the straw man is basically your name and capital letters sounds like you but it's not you it's a corporate fiction that they created birth you are a vessel on the sea of commerce and basically your house is a ship
Starting point is 03:55:20 and dry dock sounds crazy I know but see a court cannot bring a corporation court cannot bring another individual into court. They can only bring another corporation officially. So they make you a corporate fiction. And you are dead to the court. Your name capital letters is a vessel. It's not you. Your name, you're the living man or lowercase.
Starting point is 03:55:50 Okay. So this is the idea that like your social security number and your birth certificate and everything is all in capital. letters when you're passport everything that government issues is in capital letters because that somehow means that they're they're designating you as a corporation or a corporate entity correct okay and then as i think i showed you when we were both in prison is that uh they take your court case and you know they had cussop numbers to it just like your your birth certificate you you are traded your birth certificate is a stock certificate that they trade and uh like in court when you first go to you know you get arrested you want to bond out so they give you a bond and they add to that
Starting point is 03:56:42 in appearance bonds your appearance bonds and things and they add to that what's called a bid bond performance bond and payment bond they pull all these bonds together they securitize them and they sell them as asset back securities on the stock market which later connect to reeds which your real estate investment trust mutual funds governments construction loans things like that so it's i found my cue sub numbers my major cues number or my minor cue sub numbers uh basically fidelity is trading my major q sub number and what they do is when you first are run into court they ask you which way do you plead so there's honor and dishonor if you're going to stay in honor you're going to say guilty but you're going to be guilty of the faxman not the crime see all
Starting point is 03:57:38 crimes are commercial on a 27 CFR 72.11 all crimes are commercial well if they're commercial that means they're civil then what are we doing in a criminal court so When you say you're not guilty, you're actually saying, I'm not going to pay for the thing that I broke, because you broke a statute and code. Statutes and codes are not laws. They are actually copyrighted opinions. So a statute is a bond. And these bonds, what they do is they have a bank that bids on these not guilty pleas. So you have the bank bidding on your plea.
Starting point is 03:58:28 Then you have an insurance company underwriting the performance of that. So they give them a performance bond. It's crazy, dude. I mean, what they're doing is just so much fraud because it's not in your discovery what they're doing. None of this was in your discovery. No. So, okay, well, so, okay, you explain that. let's go back to so now you said that that was you did the thing with the checks and then
Starting point is 03:58:59 the secret service had shown up and then you had gone back to that we were you were back around well they didn't show up they just made a phone call well they didn't show because you weren't there trust me they I know not to be there when they show up like but I they showed up somewhere So at some point, I'm pretty sure they went to there. Somebody stopped by and said, look. Now, the reason I went to federal prison, is that what you want to get to now? I mean, I think the buildup to wondering how did that happen? Like, how old were you?
Starting point is 03:59:38 Oh, 52. Yeah, that was older. I mean, I'm saying when you were in your 30s, when you had initially started doing these things like status, like you started initially. down this path of being a sovereign citizen and like the thing with the judge the one time where you made no in my 30 was 1990 to 2000 so i wasn't doing in my 30s i was doing in my 40s in 2004 um is when i was 44 roughly so that's when it started and um when you really kind of realize things aren't as they seen things are different than what you think they are right so I mean, as far as the government, as far as them, you're the concept of that they're borrowing money.
Starting point is 04:00:26 There's a difference between the United States of America and the United States, there's two separate corporations. United States of America was a Dejure Republic, incorporated in 1787. You got the United States, which was incorporated just after the Civil War, all right? And the United States is a fascist corporate military democracy, which is the worst form of government before you have total tyranny, which is what you're seeing now. They want to set up a totalitarian state. So you don't want to be a U.S. citizen. You want to go back to the Dejure Republic.
Starting point is 04:00:58 And that's what you want to be as a sovereign. You want to go back to the Dejure Republic of the United States of America. Now, when they have on your indictment, it says United States of America versus Matthew Cox, right? That United States of America is owned by Payne Weber. which is now UBS but it's a corporation used within the court system my court I found out
Starting point is 04:01:26 I was done in Bradstreet so that means they have they have constituencies they have a board of directors that want a profit it's a company it's such a fucking scam man it's incredible
Starting point is 04:01:43 it has nothing to do It has nothing to do federal anything. It's like the Federal Reserve Bank. It's not a bank. It has no reserves. It's not federal. It's a private corporation. Right.
Starting point is 04:01:56 And the Titanic didn't sink it. And that's a whole different thing. That's a whole different show. I saw the movie. Yeah, but they switched it. They switched it with the Olympic. The Olympic was another boat. Yeah.
Starting point is 04:02:11 And that boat had already had accidents and everything. And J.P. Morgan had invited John, what's his name, John Zucker, Gugenheim, Benjamin Guggenheim, and all these people were against the Federal Reserve, right? So he invited him on this initial trip of the so-called Titanic, but they switched it at the last from the Olympic to the Titanic. They switched the names and everything that needed to go on the Titanic was not the Titanic. It was the Olympic, because he helped the insurance of it. And if you look in your computer right now, go to Google. Look at who owned the White Star Line, who created the Titanic. And it was J.P. Morgan.
Starting point is 04:03:01 He's a slick motherfucker boy. All right. So he needed to get rid of his enemies. This was 1912. And guess what happened in 1913? Federal Reserve Bank goes right through, not a problem. those bastards and they did it during christmas time nobody was there so let's go back to so what happened with your case like you were approached by somebody where you like you said in your 40s you started
Starting point is 04:03:34 getting into the whole sovereignty thing and yeah but that's not why i went to prison the reason I went to prison as this. I got caught up on a conspiracy of commingling. Okay, so basically, what were you doing? Telemarketing. Telemarketing. I don't want to be telemarketing. Like, I just call people. Not, you got to go to jail. And it was, it wasn't that many phone calls. It was maybe 35, 35, 35, 40 phone calls I did, maybe. And what was the setup? What was the whole phone? I'm getting to that. Tim Turner had a, a seminar, and one of the things in the seminar were regarding
Starting point is 04:04:18 to 9-9-0 IDs. Ironically, I ended up in prison with Tim Turner at Oakdale, Oakdale-A-Leeze. Anyway, he had done a seminar, and a bunch of us, this was at 2008, right around the housing bubble. Remember that when everything collapsed and kaput? All right? Yeah. So everybody was losing their homes and everybody knew that, you know, I knew stuff about foreclosures. And I also knew a lot about telemarketing because I'd been a telemarketer.
Starting point is 04:04:53 Right. And this friend of mine, Mike Bider, who is not doing 24 years, and David Klum asked me if, you know, I would do some telemarketing for them. I said, sure, why not? you know, I knew them from church and stuff, you know. So the way it works is they're basically doing a 1099-1099-0-D on your checking account. See, because everything you write into existence is basically a check, a promissory note. If you write for a house or for a car or student loan, anything it is, a promissory note on a UCC, 3-104 is basically a check.
Starting point is 04:05:38 It's a draft. And what the bank does is they take that, they deposit it into an account, then they fractionalize it anywhere from 19 to 18 times. So that house that you close on is actually paid for at closing. They get you into what's called a secondary, unconscionable statute-staple contract called the mortgage. Mortgage comes from the Latin word mortua, which means death. It's where we get our word for mortal, morbid, mortuary, mortician. Mortgage is a death pledge.
Starting point is 04:06:20 So the bank is getting you into death pledge where that house is already paid for closing. So we were getting that money back for people using a 1099 OID. OID stands for original issue discount and you have to do an 80281 form to find out who the actual grantor is of the actual documentation. So I don't know, we had an IRS enrolled agent. I don't know if she did that 8281 form because you have to have that 8281 form to go with a 1099 OID all the time. So anyway, these people were getting. checks back, million dollars, $500,000, $2 million, whatever. The spouse would get it, would say, oh, my God, okay, a million dollars.
Starting point is 04:07:16 I get, let me go down to the bank and cash it. They go down to the bank and cash it. And that's how we got caught up in a conspiracy of commingling because those were private credits and you can't mix private credits with public funds. okay so wait let's go back so one day you're working a telemarketing firm right telemarketing company you're you're well no i was i was working actually doing uh some real estate for you know some folks to help them out doing saving their homes and stuff like that okay well and somebody comes to you and says hey there's this guy what's his name who's doing a seminar
Starting point is 04:07:59 Tim Turner Tim Turner So you go to the seminar With some of your buddies Some guys that also Are they also believe Like the whole sovereign citizen thing Are these just friends
Starting point is 04:08:11 Or these just Like Who tells you about the seminar? Who tells me about the seminar? I don't remember This is 2000 fucking Fuck 2002 I don't know
Starting point is 04:08:25 I've no idea So you go to the seminar There's what 20 people there 50? Oh, they're about 50, yeah. Okay, so 50 people. And Ted gets up and he explains Tim. Yeah. Tim gets up and he explains about the 1099. OID. And he explains the whole thing and says, look, you know, when people borrow money from Bank of America to buy a house, Bank of America turns around and fractionalizes that mortgage and sells it for way more than was ever borrowed.
Starting point is 04:08:59 along those lines, right? Like, it's extremely complicated what you're saying. Well, he didn't just explain it. I mean, it's well known. I mean, they don't lend any money. If you read it. Well, listen, if you, all right, write this down. I want you to look up the affidavit of Walker Todd. Walker Todd is an attorney for the Federal Reserve Bank, and he states, basically, that banks do not lend money. I remember this because I remember you talking about. it you actually had like I think you had the actual letter or something it was in a bulk right hold on I think it's a halfway house calling okay no it's not somebody else hello anyway yeah it um yeah I had it in a book I don't know if I don't
Starting point is 04:09:49 think you read it though but but no but you had it I remember you talking about and showing it and saying right and it was um they can't know money of their depositors and they can't loan money of the original investors. So where does the money come from? You know what I mean? They can't, they legally cannot loan the money. Well, okay. So let's like because that's going to be insanity here. I mean, this is another show, you know, that you might want to do, but I could bring you in evidence on that. Also, there's a video if you want on YouTube called by Dr.
Starting point is 04:10:22 Professor Richard Werner. And he goes into the facts that banks don't loan money. They take promissory notes to turn them in securities that that's all purpose for them to do but somehow or another you're saying that when i borrow 200,000 dollars from bank of america to buy my house the moment i close on that it creates a document that's fractionalized and therefore my that one is already paid for yeah so that house that no no that you didn't have a loan you just said the loan was paid for you didn't have a loan it's like you signing a check and giving them a check that house was paid for at closing. They didn't loan you anything.
Starting point is 04:11:01 There was no consideration. And if you know, the banks never show up at a closing. They're never there. You just created a trust where they became the beneficiary of this constantly monthly payment that you're making. They didn't loan you any money, gave you no consideration. They don't, everything is fraud. From the moment they start, everything is fraud.
Starting point is 04:11:24 Okay. So this guy convinced. says, hey, look, you know, look, I need you guys to make some phone calls to get people to. Well, no, no, the phone calls were from people who had already taken the seminar. So they already knew what was up. They knew they had already been the seminar. He gave me phone numbers or whatever to call, you know. The guy who was with Tim was his assistant.
Starting point is 04:11:54 His name was Buddy Love. so buddy love would give me the the numbers and you know and the names and I'd call them up and say hey you know you just went to the Tim Turner Seminar you know and then I would go on my spiel about you know do you want to do it you know we can get it done for you
Starting point is 04:12:13 whatever I said I don't remember now it's been too long but basically they were interested and wanted to do it so I was able to get it I don't know how many people involved in it but they did it and they got money back so you guys would you filed taxes though right didn't you do something on their taxes like you had to file some forms for them yeah yeah you'd do the 1099 oad the 1096 the 1040 v the whole bunch of stuff but um we had an IRS and a rolled agent Penny Jones she was an IRS enrolled agent so anything worked for the IRS did she yeah no she was an IRS enrolled agent meaning that she went to classes or studied things that they had taught or whatever, but she wasn't an actual IRS agent. She was an IRS enrolled agent.
Starting point is 04:13:03 It was just different. Okay. So paperwork's filed. These people give you their paperwork. You then file documents for them. And then the IRS cuts. Okay. Well, she does.
Starting point is 04:13:17 Yeah. The IRS cuts a check. Back to them. And they got to have three approvals from three different departments. departments to get that check to that customer. So the IRS approves it. They get the check. But what they should have done, listen to this.
Starting point is 04:13:36 This is what they should have done. And I realize this later in prison. You can't cash the check, but they don't tell you that. You got to sign it back over the Treasury Department. You got to open up a trust with them and say basically, look, you are the trustee. the beneficiary of this trust. I had these debts, the house, the car, the boat, the whatever, and I want you to do a set off on them with my credits.
Starting point is 04:14:07 That's what they should have done, but they didn't. They just deposit the check, and then we got caught up in a conspiracy of Coimaling. Okay, so. And I'm a solid guy, Matt. I didn't have to turn anybody in, yo. no you went to trial I'm a solid guy Matt how did that work out
Starting point is 04:14:28 so you do this and you do this and what happens so they got back a bunch of money didn't a lot of people get money back weren't they cash in the millions so people were depositing money in the millions of dollars there was like one was like half a million dollars
Starting point is 04:14:48 one was like a million point something one was that there were millions of dollars people are depositing the checks. If you look at my name on Google hyphen tax case, it says it was roughly $160 million we got back. Okay.
Starting point is 04:15:05 Roughly. How long did this go on? It wasn't long, about six months. What's long? So at some point, once you got the customer and you filed immediately, I mean, you know, it doesn't take that long to do
Starting point is 04:15:21 because they would do a 10-9-9, sign out OID on their checking account. Everything they paid through that checking account would be OID. So, you know, because everything you sign into existence is going through that checking account. Basically, if you bought a boat, you got a student loan, whatever loan, suppose loan, you know, I say loan, it goes through that account and we got checks back pretty quickly. Okay, so at one point, though, the place gets what, busted, rated, you get target letters? What happens?
Starting point is 04:16:05 Target letters, mainly. And so a target letter is a letter sent from a federal agency saying you're being investigated. Yeah, not me, but the other guys did, yeah. I got busted by IRS CID when I reported to my probation officer for the check thing that my friend Jose got me in until I was still in probation for that so I got busted at my probation officer's office by IRS CID they asked you to come in for some reason you well I came in I came in every month I think you know just to check in and You know, they knew when I was coming in. And so did they arrested you or just questioned you? No, they arrested me handcuffs and put in the car and take it downtown. So?
Starting point is 04:16:59 And I spend the night. Did you get out? The next day. Oh, nice. Yeah. And then I was put on ankle monitor. Then again. And then you got what, a public defender and decided to go to,
Starting point is 04:17:17 trial? Uh, you kind of forced to get a public defender. I even tried firing him and Michael Bider tried to fire his attorney and they all try to fire their attorneys and they wouldn't let them. That's how they get jurisdiction over you. The bar stands for British accreditation registry. They're all members of the bar. If you know, all attorneys have the name Esquire after their name.
Starting point is 04:17:42 It's a title of British nobility. Okay. I'm not making it up Okay, so you go to trial Uh-huh How many of you guys go to trial? Four. Four people go to trial.
Starting point is 04:18:02 And how long was the trial? Month. 30 days. What happens at the trial? You explain all of this to the judge. We all bend over and get fucked by the judge as well. You explain all this to the public, I mean, you explain all this to a jury. Is it a jury trial? Yeah, jury trial. A lot of them
Starting point is 04:18:24 were falling asleep because it was taxes, you know, tax is kind of boring. But I asked the judge, I said, look, are we not allowed to confront our accusers? And if the accusers United States America, I want the United States America get on the witness stand. And I want to see the driver's license of this United States America. Because there is no, there is no, there is no, bodily injury. I mean, no one got injured. So I want to see who my accuser is. And the accuser also is supposedly the internal revenue service. Not the United States. Night States is a corporation. It's not a landmass. Not the entire landmass of United States America is against us. Well, how, what the judge say? He wasn't too thrilled with that one.
Starting point is 04:19:17 I'm assuming the United States didn't show up. They said the U.S. attorney represents the United States government. So, okay, so what ends up? So anything else notable? Like, I mean, did you explain they didn't, that the court didn't have jurisdiction over you? Did you tell them that? did you do the whole yeah but they didn't want me speaking after a while you know they didn't want me talking who didn't want you talking the judge so i mean you can uh do some of these things but they don't want you uh you know i tried to fire my attorney but they didn't want that
Starting point is 04:20:06 because that's how they get like i said that's how they get jurisdiction over you is is through that attorney um but uh yeah Yeah, it was quite the experience realizing they don't care about truth. I was bringing in some evidence that they didn't want to, they didn't want to bring the forward. They didn't want anybody to see. One of his videotape, you can watch it on YouTube. It's called America Freedom to Fascism, which is what the Irish.
Starting point is 04:20:36 Yeah, I saw that movie. Yeah. The movie. Yeah. Yeah, it was pretty good. That was a good movie. Aaron Rousseau put it together That was in the theaters
Starting point is 04:20:48 America Freedom to Fascism? No It's documentary put together by Aaron Rousseau Who did Trading Places with Eddie Murphy I know I saw it in it wasn't like in like AMC theaters It was in the You know kind of like the off I saw it in the theater though
Starting point is 04:21:10 It was kind of an off You know like where they do art films. It was in one of those theaters. I saw it. I saw it when I was on the run. I saw it in 2006. No kidding. Yeah. And you learn there is no law to pay taxes. Well, you know, I watched the movie. I listen to what they have to say. We've had this discussion where, you know, you can show me all this stuff and you can tell me all these stories and and you can show me the law and everything. But in the end, they have the guns, they have the manpower, and they have the prisons. And if they say everybody's paying, everybody's paying. And the whole time they're dragging
Starting point is 04:21:51 you away, you're screaming, this is illegal. You can't do this. You have no rights. And, you know, you can complain the whole time you're locked up in prison about how you shouldn't be here. Your rights are right this way. But, you know, you're going to do that time. So, um, so. So, what happens they eventually they they get you for how much how much 15 180 180 months 15 years for 15 years and my uh friends did 24 uh david clem and michael bider did are doing 24 years did they get out for the covid thing or no no i don't know i don't keep up with them uh penny jones got 12 years Dale Peters got 12 years. He's got, he, I contact, I mean, we communicate to telegram.
Starting point is 04:22:45 And there was another guy named Michael Smith, I think, or John Smith, something like that. He was in California. He got out after three years. John Smith, that doesn't sound made up. So you went to prison and you did you. And I met Matt Cox. There you are. Did you do the 2255 or anything like that?
Starting point is 04:23:06 or did you... Nah. And you know what? Didn't you appeal? Yeah, we did an appeal and that was denied. And Frank Amadeo wouldn't even take my case.
Starting point is 04:23:18 No. No, he wouldn't, he read it. I mean, I had... I know, I remember. And he said he read it all on one night. I don't know how he did that. I could even read it in one night.
Starting point is 04:23:30 But he said he read it, but he wouldn't take my case for whatever reason. I don't understand why. Mine, I would think, was simple compared to, you know, kidnapping or drugs or whatever. But, well, I mean, it was a month-long trial in front of a jury that didn't buy the idea of the 1099 OID, they didn't buy it. Like, they didn't believe that that was a real thing. And so, right, they eventually said, hey, you broke the law by getting this money back or.
Starting point is 04:24:06 filing these false tax returns and it was what was the it was actually tax fraud right wasn't what was the actual no it's defrauding the united states government okay that's what i went to prison for it was the united states go title 18 section uh 20 no it's 286 and 287 what was how what was the dollar amount that they said you owe uh 5.4 million dollars 5.4 million yeah um i never saw so i don't know how i can owe it but whatever the combination of all that's my restitution was that money that they did they ever get the money back from these people they got it all back and they want more on top of that hmm crazy huh so how long did you fight your case so when we were locked up you were fighting the entire time to get out once the appeal
Starting point is 04:25:05 was denied. Because I remember you were waiting for the appeal to get denied in order to file your, like your straw man claim to get out of prison. Yeah, but then I got shipped. I got shipped. You know how it is? All your paperwork, it's all discombobulated and shit. So I got shipped after, I think I was in Coleman. I think, was it two years, I think, or year and a half? It was a couple years, I think. But whatever. So two years. And then I got shipped. And then I got shipped. And And then I got shit mainly because I proved that the FRP payment was all bullshit. And they didn't like that at all. At Oakdale, get a little of this when I was at Oakdale.
Starting point is 04:25:49 No, I'm sorry. All right, this is what happened. I went from Coleman to Yazoo. Yazoo low, I was there for eight months, nine months, something like that. And then I was put at the camp for, six weeks until I got caught with a cell phone. I got caught with a cell phone. You're not supposed to have a cell phone, Chris.
Starting point is 04:26:14 No. Well, let me tell you, it was a shock. When I got there, the minute, the first day I got there, and the guard went around the corner, that place opened up like a telemarketing room. I couldn't believe it. Everyone was on the phone. It was like, what?
Starting point is 04:26:31 Like a call center, dude, I couldn't believe it. and so i mean i had to get a phone so i got a phone but the thing is i'm as you you know i'm blind so i was looking at the cell phone real close one night and all the lights were off and i was you know looking at it real close because i'm blind so the light is in my eyes and i you know it takes a minute for you to focus the room and this little guard came up on me and found me you know charging my phone but anyway anyway I ended up at the pen shoe from the camp to the pen yeah that's what I keep the shoe I was there for six weeks and then I went from there to a bloody Beaumont and
Starting point is 04:27:22 I was it bloody Beaumont low for two years and that's when Hurricane Harvey hit man that was a almost a riot started there because all the electricity was out that means you couldn't flush the toilets dude you couldn't have no AC the guards weren't showing up for work because they had their own issues
Starting point is 04:27:48 you know their own houses were being flooded and stuff like that so they weren't showing up for work we couldn't get food couldn't use a toilet I mean they had to bring in porta potty's in So the toilets were full.
Starting point is 04:28:03 They couldn't be flushed because there was no electricity. And they had to bring fans cabled in through. It was crazy. It was really a situation that was going to get bad real fast. But anyway, I wrote a BPA after all that happened. This is like a year later. That United States Code Title 18 had never been ratified by Congress back in 1947. Truman never signed it, and we all fall under crime and punishment, which is United States Title 18.
Starting point is 04:28:36 They didn't have a quorum. A quorum was 218. They had 38 to 6, and they passed it during a holiday when nobody was really there. So Truman never signed it because of a signed-di adjournment. It's like when a law is supposed to be brought forth for him to sign, and he doesn't sign it by the end of the dead. day, it dies. It's signed die. You don't sign it, it dies. Well, he didn't sign it. And they pushed it through anyway. So it never really ended up at the foot of registry. And I have evidence for that. And I made a BPA of that. And man, they put me in the shoe right away. They didn't
Starting point is 04:29:20 want anyone to hear about that. They put me in the shoe for three months, dude, for that shit. And then they shipped me to Oakdale, Louisiana. So you were basically telling the Bureau of prisons that they didn't have jurisdiction over any of the inmates and basically they had to let everybody go right and so they okay but it's a fact it's true absolutely try I know it's true did you I have a question did you did you think the warden was going to get that and go My God, let me look into this. I have the director of the Federal Bureau of Prisons, Harlan Lappin letter that says exactly what you just said. What are we doing holding these people?
Starting point is 04:30:12 Exactly. That's what his letter says. I can read it to you. I can get it for you and read it to you next time. I know your time is almost up here, but yeah. Open the gates. Let these guys out. Chris, I can't believe.
Starting point is 04:30:28 Chris Marrero. Oh, and I was also asking for $30 million since they weren't too thrilled by. Why not? Money doesn't exist. There is no money. There's no money. So what did you want $30 million for?
Starting point is 04:30:46 Because you need something. What do you pay your rent with? Fed of Reserve notes, unfortunately. I keep telling my landlord, Or there's no, there is no money. He keeps, they keeps having these cops throw me out. That's crazy. But it's true.
Starting point is 04:31:09 But it's true. It never signed the whole time they're dragging you out of the house. You're going, but Truman never signed. I hear you. It's unfair. Oh. so then they released me because of COVID so I got out because of COVID that was the only good thing of COVID I guess and I got released in May 19th 2020 did you file for it no they released me other than to the CARES Act I guess or whatever it was they just called you up and said you're over 50 yeah did have I did more than just a little over half percent 50 percent of my time
Starting point is 04:31:56 And they said, pack up. So the CARES Act was signed into law by who? Trump. Right. And that said that if you're over, what, 50? Isn't it 50 years old? You only have to do like 50% of your time or something like that? Yeah.
Starting point is 04:32:12 Yeah. So you do 50% of your time and you're in danger because of COVID. Yeah. And they said, kick rocks, put this ankle monitor on, go home, get a job. And they sent me to my ex-wife's house with her husband. And she took you in. They took you in. They were like, yeah.
Starting point is 04:32:35 Yeah. But after a while, it became a nightmare. Oh, I had to get it. After a while. Yeah. I can only imagine. Look, while I was married and my ex-wife was happy, it was a nightmare. I can imagine if I had to go live with her and Nick right now.
Starting point is 04:32:55 Oh, my God. be like, I thought we were done with this guy. Thought he was locked up. What happened? Yeah, exactly. So, it's been a rocket ride, that's for sure. Um,
Starting point is 04:33:16 okay. So I do have a question because we didn't really touch on it. But what happened? when you made the judge the trustee. What case was that? Oh, that was the case of the checks that my friend Jose gave me. I made, I did documentation to make her the trustee. So you were charged before you were placed on probation, what happened?
Starting point is 04:33:49 I mean, what happened? You were charged. You were arrested. You got out the next day on a bond. What happened? Well, I was trying to make her trustee of the case. I don't remember the details of it all. It was so long ago.
Starting point is 04:34:02 But she lied and said that I had missed a court case, and that's why she had the ability to arrest me. This bitch lied. I couldn't believe it. Because I show up to all my court cases, I mean all my court dates. And she said I had not shown up for a court case, and that's why she issued. to warrant my arrest. So when you say you made her the trustee, what did you do? Like, after you'd been charged, you did something.
Starting point is 04:34:35 You filed paperwork, you... Yeah, if I just people were to make her trustee, do full settlement closure of the account. So you're saying that the indictment or charged on you was unlawful or was actually... It's a trust. It's all a trust. Everything is a trust. And you made her the trustee, I don't understand, and you made her the trustee to do a full settlement closure of the account. So the charge against you is a trust.
Starting point is 04:35:12 Yeah, when they're charging you, it's like, for example, you go to a store and you buy something with a credit card. They're going to charge you on the credit card, right? Right. when you break a statute and code they're charging the strawman account because you have unlimited credits of the treasury so they're charging that account you got it okay yeah so what i'm asking you're to do is just do a full settlement closure of this account because each case is an account that's what i was doing i know sounds great And so you made her the trustee. Right. You filed paperwork saying this whole thing is a trust. And I'm making you judge the trustee.
Starting point is 04:36:04 And I'm asking you to close it out. Correct. And she was upset. Yeah, she was upset. I made her a trustee. And so she said a court date and said you missed it. Right. And then had you arrested, brought back in front of her.
Starting point is 04:36:21 And what did she say to you? I didn't know. I didn't go in front of her and went something in front of someone else. Probably there's a conflict of interest because you'd named her as a trustee. Yeah, I think or something like that. What that judge say?
Starting point is 04:36:35 Did he find that comical or? No, they don't ever find anything comical. I know they don't. Like did he say, boy, you really got Judge Judy over here. She's really upset. Like, oh, you kill me. I can't stand her either. No, nothing like that?
Starting point is 04:36:56 No. So what, what they say? Just, oh, just, I don't remember. It was just, it was just, they let me go. I mean, it was just, stop it. Yeah, it was just, they didn't sentence me to anything or anything like that. They just dismissed the case, which is what I wanted anyone. This is just stop this.
Starting point is 04:37:19 I see you filed this and it stop it. I better not see my name as a trustee in this case. And they said, we're just going to let you go because you're a problem. That's what you want to be. You want to be a problem. Yeah. You don't want to be just lay down and let them walk all over to you. You want to be that problem.
Starting point is 04:37:39 You know, Tim Turner said one time in court, he said, judge, what rank in the military do you hold? And the judge dismissed the case right away. Let them go. They don't want to answer certain questions. Because they're all admiralty maritime courts. They're administrative courts. They're not Title III courts. They're all administrative.
Starting point is 04:38:08 And if it's an analogy court, they don't want to even discuss the fact that it's a military which are a funeral, which is what it is. So when you ask him, what rank in the military do you hold? he uh he he dismissed the case right away it's it's it's oh my so the court the court is you're saying that courts are not criminal courts they're maritime courts or something or what what is they're admiralty maritime courts yeah which is like i said you are a vessel on the sea of commerce
Starting point is 04:38:47 your name in capital if you look at a cargo ship all the name all the letters are in capital letters so you are the vessel on a sea of commerce and basically they're pirates entering the vessel to steal all they can steal i mean steal your life steal your time steal your money you know it's it's crazy but they're thieves i mean on another show you evidence if you have time to be able to show the screen and show the evidence and and whatever and hear whatever, you know, it's interesting stuff, but putting it to our work in action sometimes, you've got to remember, but I'm still in it up in prison. I'm still, I'm still, I'm still, I'm still on an ankle monitor. You can't do this. You want to see it? Here it is.
Starting point is 04:39:50 got it did you tell your probation officer about this no no you didn't tell them about the the maritime thing and they can't do this and no he didn't oh well no no I don't even talk to them about they're so stupid it's just you know it's not even worth the argument they're really dumb you got to go through the courts if you're going to go to all that but you've gone through the courts No, I'm going to go again. I got, I got a, I'm doing a red habeas corpus and, and, uh, and, uh, to get rid of this ankle monitor, dude, it's just, it's driving me nuts. It's really driving.
Starting point is 04:40:29 I've been on it for two years. They want me to be on it until 2025 in September and then then put me in a three year supervised release. It's like, come on, dude, don't do some telemarking it. I mean, shit, Bill Cosby got off after two years, raping 100 women's. Come on. ridiculous you should have been out there raping that's right i'm going to do a crime let me do a crime i should have gone in the bank with a gun and i'd have gotten let they'd have been like ah three years
Starting point is 04:41:03 well you know what he was already on probation he's a felon seven years give him seven years instead i used a pen and they said oh hell no 26 that dude had a bick Mm-mm. Was it a ballpoint? Yes, or it was a ball point? Oh, hell no. Four more months for an enhancement for the ballpoint. What the hell?
Starting point is 04:41:32 Oh, man. Good time. Yeah, good times. Good times. So you're doing a habeas corpus motion to get off the ankle monitor, and then what is it? So what's going to happen with the how? What are we going to do in all these houses start going under? Do you think a bubble?
Starting point is 04:41:53 Oh, yeah. It's a tsunami of foreclosure is coming up big time. Because during COVID, as you know, they did a moratorium. Mortarium's over. And there's going to be so many opportunities to get rich if you're, are you going to get back into real estate yourself or what? If you're willing to rent out some houses, better foreclosure.
Starting point is 04:42:15 No, I'm never doing that again. You know, wait, you don't have to worry about Jose's gone. Whatever his name's gone or whatever the guy's name that was. Abner. His name was Abner. He's gone. We know what went wrong last time. We're not going to do that again.
Starting point is 04:42:32 Yeah, I don't want to do that again. I'm getting too old for this shit, dude. Fuck. Yeah, at this point, if I could just order a pizza once a week, turn the TV. I get to turn the TV. I can walk by my side off this. I don't have to put it on the schedule. I don't have to say, hey, can we watch, can we watch Walking Dead on Sunday where I like walking to put me on the scale?
Starting point is 04:42:55 I don't have to say that now. Now I want to watch Walking Dead. I just fucking say I'm watching it. I got my own TV. It's great feeling, really? Ridiculous. How ridiculous. Cook is still locked up.
Starting point is 04:43:10 Yeah? You remember Cook? Yeah, for how long? Oh, I don't know. He's whatever. He got 15 years. He'll be out in a few years. so red bull red bull still locked up fucking that guy what a maniac i liked him though i loved red bull he
Starting point is 04:43:27 was super entertaining he was smart he was funny yeah i mean i wouldn't invest my life savings with him i can tell you that that's a problem i'm not buying a business opportunity from him but yeah i'll hang out with him on a Friday night. Yeah, we could go home. I wish I could help him to get out, but I can't, you know, you can't communicate with anybody in prison once you're, you know, you got this thing on your leg. Yeah, yeah. But you're totally out on the very thing, no probation on nothing? No, I got probation. For how long? Oh, five years. I'm on, three years right now. I just followed the motion to try and get off, but because I owe six million, you know, they don't want to let you off when you owe money.
Starting point is 04:44:17 Because, you know, they think I'm going to, if I, they keep me on probation the whole five years, I'll have it paid off at 150 to, sometimes I pay 100, 150. Sometimes I pay 600. Sometimes it's 400 a month. It depends on what I make. But they somehow or another think, well, let's keep them on an extra two years because that, that'll close the gap between the $100 a month he's been paying in the $6 million. could challenge him and say, what is money? Yeah, my judge, I have a good relationship with him so far. So we'll see. I did. I put in a motion like a week or two, and it was filed on July 18th, so I'm waiting to see what happens. The judge hasn't, the government hasn't responded
Starting point is 04:45:04 and the judge hasn't told them to respond. So, you know, I think it's like 14 day after two weeks or something if nobody they don't respond then they just grant the motion right so i i'm you know it was the 18th i mean what's today 27th 28 something like that what is today you don't know i don't know today's a 28 so it's a 28 so whatever another week or so we'll see what happens what kind of motion was it it was just a motion to terminate my probation i've done three years on a five-year probation everybody else i know gets half time like halfway through halfway through their probation, their probation, they let them go. Well, you know, I say probation, you said, you know, it's supervised release, but.
Starting point is 04:45:49 Well, no, on me, it's federal house arrest. It's not probation. It's not considered legally probation. I'm still in prison. Right. I'm on supervised release. Right. I always say probation because then otherwise people are like, if I explain supervised release,
Starting point is 04:46:07 then they're like, what's that? It's like, it's basically probation. I'm it's probation but really the court still has jurisdiction over me right and I guess and for probation then the justice department has um but right now that has uh I think jurisdiction or the probation office or something like that but supervised release technically the judge still has the say so you know um and so I filed a motion to say hey look you know despite the fact that I still owe this money, like keeping me on an extra two years is not going to change anything. And my probation officer has said that, look, like, there's no reason for you to be on
Starting point is 04:46:48 probation, but because you owe money, I can't ask them to take you off. But she said, if they call me, I will tell them, look, I can't recommend they take you off. But to be honest with you, there's just no reason to keep them on probation. It's just, it's really just a more of a problem for her every month and for me every month because I have to fill all the paperwork. She has to look over the paper. Like, it's just stupid. Right. But I would like to get off I'd like to get off paper
Starting point is 04:47:17 or probation. When I say paper, people don't know what that means. You have to understand most of the people that are watching these types of things. Like, if I say paper, like I'll say probation because I don't want to say supervised release because they don't understand. But everybody knows what probation is. And I don't say, you know, a lot of times you're talking to another another um you know the guy that's been locked up you know you'll say well i want to get off paper and
Starting point is 04:47:41 they're like paper what's paper i want to get off my probation so we'll see what the judge says and boziac doesn't have any does he boziac has never successfully completed a probation he has been on probation most of his life he has never completed one he just he just fucks up so many times while on probation, they eventually say, like literally his last one, the judge said, you are unsupervisable. Yeah, I saw that show. Get out of here. Let us go.
Starting point is 04:48:16 He's like, no, we're just canceling it. We're done with you. You're just a waste. You're a waste of the probation officer's time. So, yeah, that's it. He locked out. All right. So we're pretty much done.
Starting point is 04:48:32 You're on ankle monitor. We're doing the countdown. You're going to file some motions. I'm assuming that whatever you're filing, they'll bill denied or throw you back in jail. So it's fine. You know, that happens. The rate is going to be pertaining to the United States Code Title 18
Starting point is 04:48:49 that it wasn't ratified by Congress. Are you serious? Yeah. Isn't your, have you filed anything with your, with the judge about this whole thing? Not yet. You did the appeal and you never read.
Starting point is 04:49:02 filed anything. No. So this will be the first time he hears about the United States never ratified. Should be a good, we'll have to hear about that. We'll have to do an update. I'd love to see the response. All right. Good times. I'm sure he's going to accept that and be like, absolutely. Oh, my God, what's been happening? I've been making so many mistakes. let these guys out. Hey, if you like the video, do me a favor and hit the subscribe button. Hit the bell so you get notified of videos like this. Also, leave me a comment in the comment section to say
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