Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - The Inevitable Collapse of America, Trump vs Biden, Economy, Wokeism & More

Episode Date: May 13, 2024

The Inevitable Collapse of America, Trump vs Biden, Economy, Wokeism & More

Subprime loans are back. What the hell is going on? Americans can't afford nothing. What are we teaching our kids in school? To be quiet and sit still, they're not learning anything. It's horrific. They don't know what continent they're on. Not a Trump guy.

People are like, oh, so Biden, like, I don't like that, dude. I'd rather see you in the White House. But what about his criminal? I don't care, bro. Let's get dude's shot. You know what I mean? At least he knows numbers, man. Let's get a dude's shot, man.

My name is Don Lewis, man. I'm known in the YouTube streets as D.L. St. I'm a retired air traffic controller. Before that, I was a soldier, I was a hustler, I was all these kind of things that comes with growing up the way we grew up, man. I feel like I'm from Cincinnati, Ohio. My mom and dad were never married, but they were both in my life. So I was spending time with mom, spent town with dad, never had that, you know, that nuclear

family kind of thing. Right. Come from a family, just a cool family, like on both sides, my cousins and everything, was my life. That was, that's where I got all my love. That's where I got all my protection. That's where I learned everything. So, you know, being in the streets, someone would a pick on me, I got cousins. We can look for you.

Like, what? And my cousins are like, no, you're not going to run away from this. You're not going to go home and tell you, Mama. You're going to go over here and where are you at? Come on, we go over here and deal with this. So, you know, I look back on that fondly. And that helped me, that set me up for the things that I would encounter later on in life. And before we go on you further, man, I just want to thank you very much for having me on this.

I appreciate you coming. This is cool, man. This is cool. So, you know, when I was 17 years old, you know, senior in high school, 17, 18 years old, I enlisted in the United States Army, although I was a high school senior. They had a program that was called delayed entry. So you can actually enlist in the military. And then you do your last year of high school.

Once you get your diploma, then off you go to whatever branch you enlisted in. Right. So I was in that program, 1990. I graduated from high school. And I'd always wanted to be a soldier. That was my thing. You know that a little kid, everyone who knew me, he's going to be an Army man.

I just run around in the woods and have sticks like they were my little guns and play G.I. Joe and all that, man. Jumping off of everything I could get climb onto trees, garages, rooftops. I get up there, I'm jumping off, right? I wanted a maroon beret and jump boost. That was my thing. So that's what I did. I joined the Army, listed as a paratrooper.

And I was, you know, ready to do my thing. People are like, oh, are you just patriotic? Want to serve your country? Like, now I wanted to get out the hood. People were dying. I wanted to go where I could get trained and maybe have a better chance of surviving, you know? Right.

And so I'm sitting there. It's like, you got to choose a job. It's like, M-O-S, a job. What job are you going to do? I'm like, well, I want to be airborne. So I told the recruiter. I want to be airborne. I want to be a paratro.

I want to jump out of planes. He was like, all right, that's the qualification. But, you know, what job do you want? I'm like, well, that sounds like a job to me, bro. jumping out of airplanes, going to kill the bad guys? Can't do that 40 hours a week. You can't. I got some people who do, but I was like, and they're called infantry. But I don't know.

I'm like, they were like, what job do you want? I don't know. My dad was in the Army. He was an MP. I want to be in the military policeman. Great. We can get you that. No problem. But we can't guarantee you airborne training. Can't guarantee you can go to airborne school. And recruiters and people have told me like, whatever you're doing the Army, and this is for everyone out there. You guys out there, you enlisted in military, get it in writing.

Get it in writing. You know what I mean? Because they'll promise you the world. So the Army guarantees training and all that stuff. The Marine Corps does it. I don't think the Air Force and Navy does, but the Army does. So the recruiter was like, oh, we can get your MP. And then once you get in, just tell them you want to go to airborne school and they'll hook you up.

They'll send you. I'm like, nah, nah, they already told me about that trick. Nope. I need a guarantee. And so they're like, I can't guarantee it with military police. I can't do it. So I'm sitting there. I'm like, well, I'm looking at they got posters everywhere, man.

They got these poster, these guys sitting in a helicopter. They got all their weapons, you know what I mean, camo up and everything. They're all smiling. Like, this is great. And it's like 11B, 11 Bravo. That's infantry. Those are the guys who kill 24-7. That's all they do.

They go out in the woods. They find an enemy and they kill them. Sit. deal with their weapons. And I'm looking at that. I'm like, man, 11 Bravo. I mean, I know I get airborne with that. And I'm literally about to say, hey, I want to do that. And the recruiter says, hey, you want to be an air traffic controller?

And I'm a kid from Cincinnati, man, public school education. You know, air traffic control. I'm like, the guys in the tower? It's like, yeah. Like, does the Army have that? Just like, yeah, I'm looking at it. Air traffic control specialist, tower operator, radar. you know, you scored high enough on your test. You qualify for this. Can I go to airborne schools?

Like, yeah. I can get your airborne with this. 93 Charlie. You don't mean, 93 C. That was your job. Okay. I want to do that. So, bam, I get it.

Sign my contract. United States Army. I'm going to be an air traffic controller, but I'm going to be a paratrooper. All right, life is good. All I got to do now is graduate. Right. That's all I got to do.

Graduate, you know, I have no criminal records, no, you know, nothing on paper as far as law enforcement goes. Like, I'm cool. Man, that last 12 months was hard, bro. It was hard. It was hard. I don't know. It was just every situation seemed to come up, bro, fights. You know what I mean?

You know, let's go get this person. Let's go get that person. That's when the drug trade was really starting to hit, right? We're talking about 1989, 1990. Crack, you go back, young people, go back and watch the news footage from back then. That's when the crack epidemic was the thing. Right. And even the police at the time didn't really know what crack was. So dudes were out there just killing and getting money.

And I'm right there. Again, my people, my dudes are doing whatever. I'm working at a restaurant and going to school and trying to keep my nose clean. Luckily, nothing bad happened. I didn't get caught doing anything. June rolled around 1990 got into the Army sent me off to basic training

sent me off to my advanced training so basic training was in New Jersey Fort Dix they called it Fort Disneyland I got lucky that's like the easiest basic training to go to advanced training was in Alabama Fort Rucker to be in air traffic controller

I was there for a while was tough that was that was tough academically it was something and everything is condensed and the way the Army does it you take a test as past fail It ain't none of this curve stuff. It's go or no go.

That's how they say it in the Army. You're go or no go. And you got one retest. So if you take a test, you fail it, you get one retest. If you fail that, you're out. You're out of that program, and they can put you in any job they want to put you in. So that voids out your contract. They won't kick you out the Army, but you're no longer going to be, or air traffic controller

or military policeman or, you know, x-ray tech, whatever you signed up for. Do you're going to send you somewhere? Whatever they need you. right, 1990. It was going on in 1990. Desert Storm. We just kicked it off. Like, Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. You know, America was gearing up for war. So at Fort Rucker, if you failed out of the air traffic control program, well, that's the home of Army Aviation. They were telling us, like, if you fell out of this, they're going to send you to door gunner school. And they're going to send you off the war. You're just going to be the guy hanging out the helicopter shooting M-60. Like, doorgunner school,

they're like, hey, bro, you better, better study. So I had to take, through the whole process, every week, you take a test. They train you, you learn this stuff, you take a test. Twice I failed, and I had to do a retest. But that was it. I thought you said you could only fail once. Per week. So every test.

I was like, per week. So every, you know, you get, if you fail a test, you can take a retest. Okay. Every week, you don't take a retest. So if you fail twice on that, that week, that's it. You're out. But in theory, you can take that test twice every week throughout the whole program. Okay.

You know, maybe 12 weeks that we were there or something like that. So I failed one of the tests because I was, you know, not studying. And I was like, okay. And then towards the end, it was a really tough test. It was an FAA exam. And I had to take that over. But the rest of it, I was good, made it cool. After that, it was airborne school, Fort Benning, Georgia.

It's where you learn how to jump out of airplanes, right? And this is where the brother's easy company, you know, that, you know, Band of Brothers and all that, they went through, I believe they went through Fort Benny. But that's where, that's the home of airborne for the United States military, Army Navy, Air Force, Marines, and now the Space Corps, Space Force, whatever they do, if they get wings, they go to airborne school, that's the Army. So, that's a three-week course. And at the end of the three weeks, you pass that, you earn your wings. And for me, that was it. I was like, I've accomplished my dreams as a little kid. I wanted to be a paratrooper.

All right. I'm a paratrooper. Then they send you to your unit. And I got to my unit. It's Fort Bragg, North Carolina, it's home of the airborne. It's where the Green Berets are. That's where Delta Force, which doesn't exist, but that's where they are. They got a compound.

I know where it is. Right? That's where the real ghosts live. Like, you hear about the stories of these guys that walk around and nobody knows and they're off doing whatever. That's real. dudes do exist, they're ghosts. They just walk around. There was a, I remember once I was at some ceremony, a bunch of brass, like top brass, generals, lieutenant colonels, colonels, a couple three-star generals, a couple two-star generals. And this guy walks up to one of the generals. And this guy

had a beard. Now, now y'all see soldiers and seals and all that with beers, but back then, everyone was clean-shaven. This guy walks up, he has a beard, his uniform. And the only thing on his uniform, it was just us Army, just the U.S. Army. me, no name tag, no nothing. He just walking around and beat a use. He walks up to the general and the general got nervous. First time I ever saw a general nervous. This guy was just nervous. And I was asking my buddy, like, what's the deal? He was like, that's a ghost. I'm like, what do you mean? Like, that guy right there, he doesn't exist. And the general was nervous. Like, well, he's going to do something to the generals? Like, nah, it's just those guys make

these generals nervous. So I saw that with my own eyes. I'm like, damn, this is a lot going on for a brag. You know, there's a lot of people doing America's business down there for a brag. Y'all want to know what it means to be free. Don't boys know what it means to be free and women too. So women down there doing some hardcore stuff. So I'm at my unit. It's 1991. I got my training took me through the end of the year. So I went home for like a week, came back. It's like January. And we're standing in this big formation at the replacement. It was called a replacement companies where all the people come in and then they send you a off to your real unit.

They kind of come over here and then, okay, who are you? All right, you're going to this unit. You're going to Bravo Company. You're going to Alpha Company. You're going to whatever, Echo Company. So we're standing there. There's, I don't know, 200 people in this formation. We know the war, the Air War has just begun and was about to begin.

It hadn't begun yet. But we knew, like, we were deploying. People were going. And they called out maybe 25 names, 30 names. If you hear your name, fall out and fall in over here. So, you know, like, I don't know, a handful of us came out the big formation. We're making a little formation over here. We're standing there.

We're looking at the big formation. We know the war is popping off. We're like, ah, those poor bastards over there, man, they're going to war. Ha, ha, ha. You know, pointing out them and stuff like that. So they turn around to the big formation and tell them to fall out, you know, and tell them what the do, go to the barracks, do this, da-da-da. Then they came back over to us.

All right. You lucky motherfuckers. Guess where you're going? that's right you got the winning ticket you guys are going to iraq what we're going to Saudi Arabia to stop the Iraqis and you're going to be at the tip of the spear airborne we're all like airborne no trying to be all hoot yeah so yeah that was it um six days later they gave me a bunch of shots over a six day period did a bunch of paperwork um um um um um six days later they gave me a bunch of paperwork, and they sent us off to Georgia. I forget where they sent back to Fort Benning

in Georgia. And from there, we got all of our equipment. They put us on a plane and flew us over to Saudi Arabia. And that was it. Okay, it was the start of my first duty, my first duty assignment. My unit was already gone. They were in country. So that's why they called us out. We were the guys whose units were already forward, and we had to go join our units. And everyone else was just kicking it in the rear with the gear never left the States war time for a brag they just back there smashing all the soldiers wives

who were all fighting the war that's just how it works even though it's illegals against military rules you know UCMJ you know from Code of Military Justice if you get caught you know messing around your wife you can you know get in trouble get court-martial but that didn't stop people from you know

doing what they do so so yeah man that was it that was I went to war became home you know after that And, you know, I did some other stuff, did some other missions, you know. What did you do when you got to, you said you got to Saudi Arabia. Did you ever go into Iraq? We never went to Iraq. We were, I got to Saudi Arabia, King Five military complex.

That's where we landed in. From there, they put us on a C-130 to send us to, we had to go. Our unit was just outside of Rafa, so we had to go join our unit. Big aviation element, right? So we had our Apache's Black Hawk. Chinooks. I was going to say, why weren't you an air traffic controller there? Like, somebody, they need air traffic controllers to track and tell where the, the, um, the Blackhawks are going and where the, you know, say, like, where everything's going. Right. So, you know,

there's politics and everything, right? So you got a big old war and everybody wants a piece of it. Every branch, right? So the Air Force got all the high speed, nice toys. You know, you got the F-18s, F-16s, wherever they were flying them days. right so the air force was the command uh element for air traffic control okay army was like well we got our helicopters we want army controllers control our helicopters so i went to airborne school i am a tactical soldier those air traffic controllers who didn't go to airborne school those guys that went air and air traffic control school with they went to fix facilities and wore nice suits they got clean press uniforms and worked a nine to five or whatever they were doing that me i'm

running around in the woods, you know what I mean, sneaking up on my food. Yeah, who? That's what I signed up for all the way. You know what I mean? So I'm not crying about it. But the air traffic missions went to the Air Force first and then, you know, it would go to Marines will control Marines normally. Army would control Army and so on and so forth. So it took a year and a half before I actually began to do any air traffic. I was a very highly skilled, overtrained and grunt basically. I was still that we went out with the 11 Bravo guys I was telling you about. Right. When they

went somewhere, when they jumped somewhere, we jumped with them. So I'm like, damn, I still wind up being 11 Bravo. I'm just not even getting the cool stuff that they get because they get like cool medals and whatever. I couldn't even get none of that. So, um, so to answer your question, the Air Force was handling in that. Um, they had specialized

special forces. Air, um, they have a, uh, Air Force has combat control teams. I don't know what they're called now, but back then they were CCT, combat control teams. Well, we did the same job, but we weren't considered special forces. They got to train with Green Berets, Rangers, and all this kind of stuff. They got real, that kind of training.

They got all the equipment. They got all the cool guns. You know, all of this stuff. We were just, you guys are just paratroopers, and we get, like, Air Force leftover radios and stuff like that. But we had cool radios. We had cool vehicles on V's. So whenever we went somewhere, they would make us go with the command element so we could

talk on any radio to whoever. Right. We did that. And then we have smaller tactical teams. Our tact teams, four-man teams, maybe six-man teams, depending on the mission. We would go out and go forward and just do like sneak and peek kind of things. And we had one mission we were known for. It's called a beacon. Okay. You know what it is? So the

beacon mission was our bread and butter. We would go up and set up a non-directional beacon. And the whole purpose of that is if the enemy is there, we need to get a a fix so our aircraft or whoever's trying to get in there know where they're on and they can get one last bearing to go hit their target, that beacon would be that fix. So we would jump in or drive in or walk in or where we had to do, set up that beacon and turn it on at the prescribed time. Our air elements are like, okay, we got the beacon here. We know where we got to go. We fly this

radio off this beacon that's going to take us to the bad guys. That's the mission. Nowside to that is if the enemy is ready, we turn on that equipment, they can triangulate our position and matter of minutes and just blow everything up. So it was one of the things we turned that thing on and just run like hell. Like we know we got to get out of this grid because, you know, incoming is going to hit us. So, um, as a tactical controller, that's what I was doing. I wasn't in a tower. I wasn't in a radar. I was training to do all this stuff. I was in a motor pool. I'm working on trucks. I'm doing all this kind of stuff. Tactical ATC, Army Air Traffic Control stands for Army trucking company because that's all we did. We just trucked our equipment all over the

world. We had like portable radars. We have portable towers. But our mission was just to put our stuff on our back, you know, and go do whatever we got to do and then come on home, support whoever we got to support and come on home. It was fun. I ain't allowed to you, man. It hurts. I still hurt to this day. I was young. I'm going to live forever. This ain't going to hurt me at all. Man, I'm in pain right now. Just so you know. So how long were you, how long did you stay in the Army? I just did four years. Okay. Did four years. I realized... Like, man, this isn't, back then, we didn't get paid a lot. Now, they get paid pretty good.

And they have a lot of benefits and stuff now. Right. But back then, at my peak, financially, I was making $1,0.141 a month. That included jump pay. That included extra $110, hazardous duty pay. Say, oh, you're going to pay you an extra $110 to jump out of airplanes. It's like, yeah, but I could die over $110, you know. But $1,0.141 is what I was making after four years in the Army.

I'm like, this isn't enough to risk my life. life every day. You know, it was cool. I'm glad I did it. It was who. It was high speed. I got to do some cool stuff and work with some really cool people. I've worked with, you know, Army Green Berets, you know, Army Special Forces like Rangers, um, tabs and scrolls. That's, it means some to them army guys. They know what I'm talking about. Um, I've worked with Turkish troops, man, French foreign legionnaires, French soldiers, you know, British soldiers, well, Scottish, Scottish dragoons, I think They were Korean soldiers. We worked with the best from all over the world,

and I'm here to tell y'all, America, real talk, the United States military is the best fighting force the world has ever known. Hands down. No one was even close. People from other countries come to America just to serve in our military so they can go back home and be successful.

So I really enjoyed it. You know, four years was enough for me. I knew if I re-enlisted, I would just like, well, I might as well go to retirement. If I do eight, you know what I mean? Might as well another. 16 to get to retirement. Right.

You know, if I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it. And if I had re-enlisted, I would have really done, would have gone and done some real who is stuff, you know, high-speed stuff. Like, all right, I'm going to go to Ranger School. I'm going to go to Parvinder School. I'm going to do all this. So I didn't, I didn't re-enlist. I got out.

I went home. Back to the streets. I was going to say, it's funny. I saw a TikTok the other day. They were interviewing a British soldier. And he said, I don't know what war he was at, you know, where he served. but he said he said they when they he was assigned to some you know whatever platoon or whatever it was he was assigned to um they were like you better hope in americans they've assigned

they've embedded some americans with you and he was like why he said because when we get into trouble they tell us to hunker down they tell us to wait for them they tell us they're going to send something he said and he said then they have to go get permission they have to Like the British had to do, there was all these procedures before they would send something. He said, the moment, if you're with an American, American calls in and says, we're in trouble, send people now. He said, everybody shifts gears and starts heading that way. And on their way there, they start getting the location. He said, he said, completely different.

He said, your guys are going to be there in 10, 15, 20 minutes. He said, it could be hours before the other, he said, before the British show up. He said, if at all, sometimes they'll just say, look, you're just going to have to work it out. We don't have anybody to sin. We don't have this. He said, so he said, you better hope there's some Americans with you. Because they'll send people immediately. Yeah, America doesn't mess around.

I know we can curse on here sometimes, but I'm trying to keep it clean. But, you know, America doesn't fuck about, bro. Like, if soldiers need help, they're going to get that help. Generally speaking, sometimes you have the eight teams, like Green Berets, who are so embedded in wherever they are. Green Berets are trained, they're on their own. Yeah, yeah. There's nothing.

There's, like, we could send somebody, but it's still, it's going to be a day. At least. Yeah. It's so remote. Right. So, but for the average soldier, if you're out somewhere, you know, you take on some fire, all you got to do is get on the radio. I know for most units, especially infantry units in the Army,

they have Air Force tactical guys with them. And the Air Force guys will get on the horn and call in the A-10. So, like, you get, we're getting taken fire from a village or whatever, whatever. They call in the A-10. The A-10s come in there and just scare the hell out of whoever's there. They'll come in, turn on that big gun. gun of there is that burr and the bad guys go running away bro you know and if they see the bad guys those 810 drivers go get them um it's like a tank in the sky those things have been flying forever

and they're gonna keep them flying bro i mean this it's it's i watched a thing on it where they were like listen for you know what that's a fixed wing a straight wing fixed wing and they were taught i was watched a whole thing on they were like listen there's not a more productive destructive airplane, you know, in the military for that inexpensive. Like, it's super,

it's built, the whole thing's built just around that Gatlin gun. Yes. It's a Gatlin gun, right? That's what that is. The whole, they had a gun.

Can we build an airplane around his gun? And that's what they did. And it just shortes everything. Everything it sees. It is the most, one of the most effective weapons systems

on today's battle. I've been a thing for like 50 years. Bro, look at the B-52s. Yeah. Well, they keep updating those. Right. They're going to keep upgrading the A10s. You know, and for everything that we see, ladies and gentlemen, out there in the world,

for everything you see on TV, there's shit that we have in our inventory that is just like, you know, some Koreans, there's a YouTube video out there when they were showing America capabilities, military capabilities to South Korean soldiers. Maybe it was North Korean soldiers, but it was Korean soldiers. And the guys were looking at the video and looking at what America could do. And they were like, you know, in Korean, they were like, I think. think America could fight aliens. That's, that's, just looking at the tech, you know, just looking at the tech.

Like, I think America could fight aliens. So, um, the, the technology that they showed us in 1993, we were with some, uh, green berets. They were just out showing us some stuff, right? It was Sears school, uh, going through some training. And they brought in like their future soldier. The, the gear that that guy was wearing, I still haven't seen in today's real world activities. So just imagine that was super high tech. in 1993, I still haven't seen it.

So imagine what we have, we haven't even released yet. So for those of you who say Russia could beat America or Ukraine with America back in a man, you high, bro. I love that senator. I forget what center was. He said prior to the invasion of Ukraine, he said Russia was the second most powerful military in the world. He said, now they invaded Ukraine.

We now know they're the second most powerful military in Ukraine. Ukraine. Yeah. Facts. Yeah. I mean, the problem is, you know, and I know this based on my vast experience watching YouTube videos, you know, is that, and it's funny, too, is I always talk to, I always argue with my buddy, John, this is this guy, Bozat, where I always argues, like, I'm telling

you the, the Chinese are going to invade Taiwan. I was like, yeah, but if they don't have that whole fucking island taken in three days, I said they're going to have a major problem because by that point, the U.S. Navy has shown up. We've, you have to understand that Russia's designed to move their entire army around Russia. Yep. on rail, that's it. I said, the United States is one of the, if not the only military in the

world that has the ability to pick up their entire army and move it across the world where most countries, China can't move their military across a little canal. Right. You know, to get into Taiwan. So, you know, we are the only ones that have the capability of moving, you know, everything from tanks to armor personnel carriers to your entire. military to most like Britain could it would take Britain months to get their military out of Britain yeah just across the just across the channel just to get them to France right so you know the even when they even when they were a part of the you know the D-Day invasion we're the ones that brought the equipment to get them across like and to this day most militaries are they

powerful yes as long as you try and invade them but they can't leave like they're not gonna they can maybe maybe fight off other countries that are trying to invade them them, but they don't have the ability to pick their military up and move it across the world and land in Africa and start taking over African countries. There's just no way for that. They don't have the equipment to move themselves. So that's why when he's always like, I'm telling you they're going invade. I'm like, I don't doubt maybe they will invade. I said, but they're going to, if they don't take that entire, that entire island within three days, I said, they're going to have one hell of a fucking problem. China doesn't want to smoke. And you say three days and you're right. Here's the thing. When

I was in, right, as a paratrooper who was on what we call Defense Ready Brigade, DRB. We were the guys, the Quick Reaction Force. We were those guys. Back in the 1990s, the early 90s, the United States military, 18th Airborne Corps, which includes elements of the United States Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps. 18th Airborne Corps could be anywhere in the world in 18 hours or less. That was in the 90s. You're saying 72 hours.

Come on, bro. If we were doing that then in 18 hours, they could probably. get anywhere in the world in less than 18 hours now. So, yeah, I'm thinking, I'm thinking in a large enough force to push them back out. Like, if they did work, you know, if they were to take it to be able to push them back off. Like, I don't know how many guys that they can, you know, the military can get there, but they have to be able to go there. And they have to have the power to the firepower, too.

So I'm thinking the, I'm thinking of the Navy, because the Navy is really extremely destructive. You know, I mean, in my opinion. You're absolutely right. Based on YouTube videos. A carrier strike force is. Massive. Yeah, like, those, those, those things can take out entire countries. I mean, there, it's, it's amazing if you start, if you actually pull up, like, the statistics for how many planes we have compared to just other countries, it's not like, it's not like there's 3,500, 300, you know, fighter jets compared to 300, 200, 200, 65, you know, 140.

Like, like, it's like the American firepower is massively outguns everybody. Could you imagine two squadrons of F-18s flying over Ukraine, hunting, whatever the Russians has? You know what I mean? They're S-U-21s or whatever. They don't stand a chance. Right. And that's just two squads of F-A-teens. And we're talking about the Navy.

The carrier strike force has Navy guys and Marines, right? We haven't begun to talk about the Army. We haven't talked about the Air Force. Just that. So, no, man. It's like, no, bro. I mean, Well, that's why Putin's fallback position is always nuclear.

Yeah. Because he can't fight, like, we can't fight them off. So it's got to, he immediately said, well, then we'll go nuclear. Like, why don't you just bring your air force in and fight them? Well, because we don't have a chance. You don't have a chance, bro. You don't want to see that. I mean, just with the forces that we have in Europe right now is enough to take care of Russia.

Right. Especially now that we see their true capabilities. And the problem with Russia is so much corruption. So Putin really thought he had an effective fighting force. He really thought that, you know, we're going to be able to take this. In his mind, like, we'll take Ukraine in an afternoon. It's just, that's, imagine it for me. Bad information. Yeah. Well, all those guys, when you surround yourself with

yes, man. Yeah, that's a mistake. You know what I mean? Now Putin's like, uh-oh. So it's imagine, I've been talking all this stuff to you, man. I'm going to kick your ass, bro, blah, blah, blah, and then I see how big you are. And I'm fighting some little dude, and I can barely hold on. And I see you standing there. So yeah, I'm going to grab the gun. Like, hey, you better back up, bro. That's the nuclear deterrent. He's grabbing that. I'm grabbing the nuke. Because he's like, man, now he sees it. Putin ain't stupid. It's like, man, American will mop us, bro. Did you, did you, have you seen the, uh, uh, do you have Netflix?

Yes. Uh, they have a documentary called Turning Point on. It's like eight. I said, I watched all. It's in my cue. I watched all of them. Love watching. Is it good? Uh, yeah, it was, it's great. It's great. Well, especially for you because not all of it, but for a portion of it, you know, you're like me, like I can remember all these events, you know? So it's like, and, and, you know, of course, they start at the beginning of the Cold War. Well, yeah, Cuban Missile Crisis or? No, no, no, they go back to right at, basically what I said.

So basically, it's, it's the Manhattan Project. Okay. Now, granted, that's still World War II, but they don't ever focus that much on World War II. They're just, you know, how they got the scientists, what they were doing, how the Soviets were stealing the information, how we thought we were decades ahead of them. And within a few years, they've got their own bomb because they'd stole the information, you know, like, and how we'd stolen the, the, um, science. scientists from Germany. We've gotten some of their German, you know, their scientists.

And not just Germans, Nazis. Yeah. And they're bringing them over. But I mean, they're a Manhattan project, how that it developed, and then the dropping of the bomb. So they go through all that. But then they very quickly get into, you know, the 50s, 60s. And then it's, you know, duck and cover, you know, I love. And Colby doesn't know anything about anything of this. He doesn't even know what duck and cover means. That's hilarious, bro. You're young. You young. And we ain't mad at you, bro. But, you know, if a nuclear bomb hits, all you got to do is get on the table, man, you'll be fine. You'll be fine.

But, I mean, you know, the bomb shelters in the back, in the backyard, like, everything. But, you know, it goes, and you think combined it's like eight, it's like eight episodes. It might be more, but it's like eight episodes. And each episode is, they're not like 30 minutes. They're like an hour and a half. I mean, this is a massive, massive. And, of course, they do. They go into, you know, the Bay of Pigs.

They go into Cuban Missile Crisis. They go through it. And then they have a bunch of little examples of where they're about to launch, like not only the Americans, we're times where the Americans are about to launch or thinking we're going to have to launch. And there are times when the Russians think, and it's just a glitch in a new system, it's a 30-cent microchip that went bad, that now we suddenly think that there's all these missiles coming at us, or there's a new system put up and there's a reflection of the moon on the clouds,

and they think it's an incoming attack because the radar's lit up. They're like, oh, my God, they're launching and they're ready to start calling. Hey, the Americans have launched. So, and then when you watch it, like, you're, you get the goosebumps. It's like, because it's really done good, bro.

I was like, how close have we come to complete extinction and how many times did that happen? Bro, like the whole thing with the red phone, to your point. And I'm sure they covered this in that documentary. I forget his name, but there's a Russian officer who stopped the world. from going full-blown, you know,

DefCon 5 or whatever, nuclear conflict. Because of that, it was, they're getting the radar lit up. There's like, oh, it's a full-scale, you know, attack from the Americans. And it's the guy in charge, the one Russian guy in charge, he gave the order not to launch. And he's like, this doesn't seem right. Don't launch.

For whatever reason. I forget his name and what the circumstances were, but he didn't. And sure enough, it turned out, It was some sort of sim gone rogue. Let's check. Even in the, I wonder, do you know what the Cuban Missile crisis was? Oh, my God.

It's the Southern education system. Yeah, man, what's going on? But anyway, and I'm not going to get into it with you right now. But there was actually, so at one point, you know, they knew there was a submarine, right, during the blockade, right, or the quarantine zone. So during the blockade, they were, they started shooting these. you know, the death charges, right? But these are not real death charges. They're just dummies. Like, they blow up, but they couldn't hurt. Even they were right next to one of the sub. They wouldn't hurt it. But of course, the problem is the sub, the Russian or the Soviet sub doesn't know that, right?

They can hear the bombs, but they're not positive how far they are away, and they think they're trying to sink us. And really what had happened was we'd already come up with an agreement. And they're kind of trying to get them to come up and so they can make contact. And the Russian commander of that sub, the captain, he had the ability that his orders were if the war has started or if you're attacked, launch your nukes. So he's ready to launch his nukes. So it was him and like two other people had to, three other people, three or four had to be, had to concur.

Two of the guys say yes. He says yes. They say yes. But there's always a political officer on every sub. They go to the political officer and he says absolutely not. And they're like, what? He's like, no, go up. They're like, we go up.

We could be destroyed. They're trying to, he said, he was like, I don't give a fuck. Like, you're going up. We're not launching, you know, 80 nuclear missiles. You go up and make contact. They're literally, these guys are screaming at each other, wanting to push the button. What if that guy had just said, what if he, what if he didn't have the frame of mind to say, I can't do that? By the way, that ruined his career.

Yeah. So you made the right call. But when he got back, never put on another sub. They talk about it. interview him. He ruined his career. Now, he stayed in the, in the Navy. He was still, but basically never got, never, never was raised through the ranks, nothing because it's like, yeah, you didn't do what needed to be done. What needed to be done wasn't the right call. He saved the world. I saved the world, but as a result of, like, it was kind of like you don't have the stomach for

it. Like, bro, I know I have the mental, the ability to think that this is more important for us to at least get a call from Moscow. Not that he wouldn't have done it. He said, I would have done it. But not because we can hear some things going off that doesn't really feel like they're trying to destroy us. He knew if American wanted to kill him, they'd be dead. Right. That's what he knew. Like, they're not trying to hurt us. But they go up. They get, they find out guests. Oh, no, no, turn around, turn around. They're just trying to get you to come up. Yeah. Go on. Yeah. Comrade Commerer, sorry, thanks for not blowing up the world, but you're going to the gulags. Yeah. Horrible. They talk about, but they also talk about the gulags, too. They talk about, they go through, um, with Stalin and how many people he, of his own people he killed. Like 30 million or 40 million of his own people, he goes, but that was really prior to World War. That was doing, that was like leading up to World War II and through World War II. Yeah, and after.

And after World War II. I mean, Bill Burr has, you know, I'm a huge stand-up guy, a comedian, you know what I've been in the world. Bill Burr right now, hands down, I think he's the best in the business right now. Bill Burr's on top. You know, Dave Chappelle is probably a close second, but Bill Burr's on top. Dave Chappelle talks about people stealing his, his, he has a whole thing. I watched the whole thing where he talked about. He names the guy and, like, yeah, the guy told him, I'm going to, I'm just going to take it.

And he was like, I don't know if that maybe that's the guy we were talking about earlier. No, like, no, Mancia wouldn't touch Dave Chappelle. Even back then, Dave Chappelle was a kid. No, no, he was talking about when he was a teenager. Oh, he was a little 13, 14 years old. Yeah, when he started, he was still smoking cigarettes in the club, you know what I mean? So it was, yeah, you don't even remember that, too. People used to smoke cigarettes inside, you know what cigarettes are?

I'm just kidding. Colby was born in the 80. When were you born? Ninety-four. Oh, my God. You mean 19-94? I graduated in high, a college in 95. Graduated high school in 88.

Like, bro, I got out of the army in 94. Jesus. 94. The stuff we were doing in 94 while you were just coming out like, when, when, and we was out there. You can't remember when there wasn't an internet. Bro. By the time he's six or seven years old, like, they're already coming out with, like, the internet. Well, no, the internet was in the 90s because I was in college.

Because Cern. CERN was when you were, like, they were doing CERN. It was only for, like, the sciences back then. Yes, yes, because it started in the universities. Yep. So, bro, once upon a time, it used to, like, be a workout just to dial somebody. Rotary phones, man, look that up. Look that up, y'all.

Remember the hackers used to go to the pay phones and they would just have fun hacking different phones or whatever? That's when you play paid for long distance. Exactly. Bro, that's when, yeah. Well, you know, I feel bad for my wife. like 18 years younger than me. I make her watch stuff all the time. And she'll sit there and I can look at her face. And I'm like, you don't have to watch this. We can turn to it. No, no, it's fine. But the look on her face is like, this is, this is agony right now. I'm going to do it for you,

but this is, I have no interest in this. And I'm always, you know, as you get older, you know, you now you want to watch documentaries that I would have, I would have killed myself if my mom had made me watch when I was a teenager. Bro, I didn't know Hitler. I didn't know Hitler for it all the time. I'm like, this is amazing. I'm just sitting around there watching. You know, one of the things, too, was his, the paratroopers was, when Mussolini was, was, when they were, he was overthrown and he was placed in a, in a, in a prison on a mountain. And Hitler sent in a paratroopers that they came down at night, landed on the, on the prison, and took over and freed Mussolini. That's like a, that's a Navy. I mean, that's, they were his, his most of least soldier was auto, auto score something.

I can't remember the name of the guy who was in charge of, that was like his most elite team. It was the guy, did he have a scar on his face? I think that was some, yeah. Listen to what these guys would do. They would actually scar themselves and they would push, like, it was like hay or, no, horsehair or something in the scars to try and make it look more pronounced because they thought it looked cool to scar the. Man, that's crazy. I ain't doing that. Yeah.

They ain't scar on my face. look like if you got a scar or something they would try and make it look worse the scar look worse because then you you looked more rugged and tough and yeah hitler like the the the german paratroopers were some of the most elite soldiers ever really i mean i mean they really set the tone and hitler used them they rescued musilini it was a daring raid they got him out of there uh only for the musselina to go back and then we all yeah we know how to have that didn't work out good for Mussolini. But when Hitler invaded Greece, I think it was Greece, he used his paratroopers.

That's the last time he used his paratrooper in the mass movement because he lost so many of them. I think the loss rate of his paratroopers were like 70, 80 percent or something like that. Don't quote me on that internet. Don't quote me on it. But he lost a lot of paratroopers. The losses were so high. But they were successful.

They completed their mission. They ran the Brits out of there. But the losses were so high. Hitler didn't want to do it again. He didn't want to, you know, risk his paratroopers like that again. There's so many things that happen in World War II that are over the top. Like if you, when you tell people, they're like, come on, man, that didn't happen. Like, you understand that, I'm sure you know this, there was an entire army that was built using blowup tanks, blow up airplanes, blow up soldiers, it was all blue, and they put Patton, was Patten in charge of?

They moved Patton up there to Pilate Calais, Potta Calais, something like that. Because Patton had been, he had kicked a soldier. I don't think he kicked him, smack them. They made it, the room, there was a picture that had kicking the guy in the ass. Really what happened was a guy had shell shock, right? Which is the equivalent to what is, it's now. PTSD. And he was just terrified.

He was in a medical tent. He was like, I can't go back. I can't. You know, he's terrified. And there's other. people that have been shot and Patton got furious and slaps him and tells him to get back to his unit. And he's furious. Well, the problem is there was a reporter there. And the reporter saw that was like, this guy just slapped a soldier. He's terrified. He slapped him. But, you know,

Patton was a very tough guy. And so it hit the newspapers and they call the president, basically, he's about to just sack him. Like, you're done. Let's not throw him out, but like we're going to put you on the sidelines. Instead, what he does is he puts him in charge of this blow up gold. I forget it had a real name. This, you know, the, you know, Army number five or whatever, whatever its designation was, he puts them in charge of it. So Hitler hears this and thinks Patton's, the U.S. military's best general. Obviously, it's a real thing, and that's where that's the military that's going to come in. They're going to come across the channel.

They're going to invade up there. Patent's in charge of that military. That's where they're coming from. And it's all bullshit. It's all fake. It's blow up, blow up tanks, blow up airplanes. Yeah, wooden airplanes. Yeah, yeah, blow up tanks.

They would have men underneath the blowup tank and walk around. It looks like the tank is moving. You don't mean? It's just dudes walking the tank around. There's tons of footage of it. I mean, like, if you explain that someone, it's like, man, bullshit. That's, come on. That didn't.

Absolutely. And then the other thing they did was they had the paratroopers where they were the, they had little soldiers. They made these little, I don't know what they were, wood, clay, whatever, plastic. And what they would do is they dropped thousands of them. So the Germans think the invasions here, they can see the, paratroopers coming, they're shooting at them. And when they would hit the ground, it would smash something and firecrackers would go off. So they, the paratrooper, there's little,

because from a distance, a little four foot or a little three foot soldier, you know, a little model, looks like a regular person. And when he hits the ground, it starts going, so these guys are hitting the ground and they're shooting at us. So they move, they move tons of soldiers to fight these guys in the field. There's nobody. there like it's a thousand blow-up dolls or not but whatever models that they dropped i mean there's so many insane things that happen during world war two got one last one for you i'm pretty sure you know about this the reason d-day was successful because hitler refused to to release his reserves of panther panther the reserves there were in the north to counter that fake army

the other reason that the hitler thought it was real is because garbo which was a double agent It was a spy. It was a German spy who the Brits found and flipped. So he's a double agent. He's working for, you know, the allies. Right. Is feeding the Germans information, hey, that's not, they're going to attack Normandy. That's a fake up there.

And they actually sent a message to Germany that says, like, hours before the invasion, the invasion is about to happen in a couple hours. It's Normandy. it's um i think that no no they said the invasion i got that wrong guys i got that wrong i was going to say that that got that wrong he said he said the invasion is definitely going to come is patented they're coming across the north there's an invasion on the way in normandy but it's a fake

right don't fall for the fake right so he switched it on them the other thing is too they got uh Hitler got word where they got word but Hitler was taking it he didn't do anything for three or four hours don't wake me don't wake me They were too afraid to wake him up. He was taking a nap. Yes. So for four hours, nothing happens. Think of all that to went into World War II.

Because D-Day would have failed if, you know, and another thing, doing World War II, the Brits were reading in real time what the Germans were doing. They broke Enigma. They figured out the code machine. Alling Turing, the imitation game, if you have never seen it, watched a movie. That's a great movie. Right. So they broke, they knew what the Germans knew and what the Germans were doing.

and, I mean, take all that consideration, and we still almost lost. Like, it's crazy. Stalin would have been defeated if Hitler wasn't stupid and did what he did. Oh, let's go hit, you know, Lenin, Stalin grad. Yeah. They were 50 miles away from Moscow, and Hitler happens to see that there's a town, a little city called Stalingrad. So he diverts his troops to go, let's take out Stalingrad first because it's got Stalin's name on it. That's it.

You're 50 miles from Moscow. What are you doing? And they hold him at Stalingrad for like six months. And the winner comes in and just destroys him. Yeah, Paul is lost. He had to, he had to, he was a field marshal, had to surrender. And that was it. That was the beginning of the end for the Nazis.

But just think about that, all these little things. That all those sequence of events that had to run perfectly for the Allied to be victorious. To be victorious, man. It was crazy, bro. You know, hey, this is what I love about podcast, man. They had no idea we were going to be talking about. I love it.

This is great. You touched on a subject that I love to talk about. Bro, this is perfect time. I am mad at you, man. And I'm proud to say that I'm a part of that American tradition, bro. I am a paratrooper. I'm a proud paratrooper, bro. I mean, even as an old man, I still think sometimes I could do it.

I was talking to my buddy, one of my good friends. He lives out here as well. And he was telling him, we were talking about it. Hey, man, do you miss it? man would you go on one last mission he was like i would love to but you know we can't handle it man our bodies are fall apart bro i'm like just one more jump just one more you're like it's no way bro there's no way so uh we we talk about it all the time but i'm an old man now i can't do all that stuff so when you got it when you got out of the of the army did you um did you go and get a job as

uh um air traffic controller sorry a traffic controller no so while i was in i met i met a man a mentor am I really, really good guy. And he said, hey, you ever consider being a air traffic controller civilian side? You know, it's like, I would love to, but from what I gather, it was virtually impossible to get in. And it was. It was really tough. Like, I don't know if I could get through it. I know I could do the job, but I don't know if I could get the opportunity. You say, well, what if I told you that I might be able to help you with that? And I would like, well, yes, sir, if you can get me in, I would absolutely love that opportunity. This was 1993, 1992, 93, he said, don't take my information. You might not hear from me for a while,

but when you do, be ready. Yes, sir. So I got out in 94, went home, started doing a whole bunch of jobs, like got a job as a janitor in my sister's high school. I would always get, so I would always have two full-time jobs and some sort of hustle. That's what I I was doing. Because again, I'm back in the streets and I don't want to do what everyone is doing. I'm like, I'm still, I got a shot at this FAA thing maybe one day. I don't want to get in trouble. You know, let me just, I'm going to do my little. I'm a hustle. My hustle was always work. I'm going to go get two jobs. I work at a restaurant as a short order to cook, but I still have my full-time job as a janitor. And I was doing political stuff working on like campaigns.

I was working as a street promoter for a local R&B and hip-hop record label. I was doing all sorts of stuff. I'm in the streets. I'm trying to manage people. I'm having fun. Like, it's whatever. You know, I mean, maybe the occasional, you know, whatever, maybe, maybe. Maybe, maybe, maybe a little something on the side, maybe. And then, you know, so it's, you know, I get out in 94. So here it is 96. I get a call. It's that guy. It's like, hey. Eagle has landed. Pretty much. It was like, hey, pop go to Weasel. You ready? And I'm like, yeah, I'm ready. So he was like, Hey, listen, there's an opportunity. Might be able to get you into the FAA.

This program is called Veterans Relocation Act, VRA. You qualify for this program. I need you to fill out this packet and get this information to this person. And I need you to get it done in 24 hours. Yes, sir. And this isn't, we didn't have computers, boys and girls. It's not like I go on and just click and point

and upload my resume and all that. I had to go get it. everything pull everything together go do all this stuff put together a file and get it to this person got it done and it's kind of funny it's like it's kind of like a like an op it's like I was aspire something I'll get all that stuff in I'm sitting in the house phone ring okay good job I see you got that done appreciate that um I'll keep you posted hangs up I don't hear from you for I don't know six months eight months I get another call yes sir all right I need you you to go to this doctor's office and I need you to take this physical. I need you to do this.

He never asked me if I was like smoking or anything like that because he knew the kind of kid I was. I'm like, once I heard from him like, I ain't touching the weed. I ain't doing nothing. So he's like, I need you to go do this, blah, blah, blah, gave me another list of things to do. I need you get this done ASAP. Yes, sir. Got all that stuff done. And before you know it, I get a letter from the United States government, federal aviation administration. Congratulations. You know what I mean? We're going to hire you. We're going to hire you. is an air traffic controller, you know, and they start asking me, like, where do you want to work and, you know, what do you kind of do? Like, what, you know, do you want to stay in your

region or are you willing to move and da-da-da? And I'm in the hood, bro. You know what it's like when you ain't really making money, right? I'm working my butt off. I don't think I made over $20,000, $25,000. I doubt if I made that much money in the four years that I was home, busting my ass, doing it the right way. Meanwhile, watching my homies, pulling up and brand new, this and that, got the clothes on, you know what I mean? Money is stateless. up. I'm like, yeah, I'll go wherever you guys need me. I just want to start as soon as I can. All right, no problem. Would you mind going to Northern California? I'll go anywhere. I'll go to Northern California. That sounds nice. That's great. But I'll work anywhere.

I think, okay, no problem. And then they hit me up a couple months later. All your paperwork is in. All your security checks are done. You're good to go. You're going to Van Nuys. So I get out of Matt, right? Got Thompson guy. Look that up, young people. You know what the Thompson guy that is, bro. Get out the old Thompson guy. All right, let's look at it. I'm looking all over Northern California. Where the hell is Van Nuys?

They told me I'm going to Northern California. Well, Van Isis is in San Fernando Valley. It's in L.A. Oh, okay. Even better. I'm going to L.A. Woo, you know what I mean? So I get on a train, you know, save my little money.

I couldn't afford a plane ticket, man. Got on a train. I wasn't so broke that I had to take a bus, but I would have. And I took the train all the way out to L.A. and I didn't have a place to live. You know, I just got this job. I got this career. I got this opportunity.

But I don't have a place to live. I don't have a car. I don't really have any money. I might have had $400 in my pocket. You know, so how long is that going to last? You know what I mean? Not long in L.A. No.

And this is 1998. So I tell my buddy, man, I got hired by the FAA. And the guy was in my unit. He's in their traffic controller, too. He's like, I have family out there. You got a place to stay. I'm like, I don't. Hey, man, I got family out to make some phone.

calls, people hit me up, hey, you can crash over here until you get on your feet, blah, blah, blah. And I turned into a situation, but at least it gave me a place to stay for a week. And then after that, I'm working and, you know, there were at the time, I was the third black person at this particular air traffic control facility. So the two other people there, brother and the sister, they know who y'all know who you are. They took care of me, they hooked me up. I was like, look, I don't have any money. They were like, where are you staying. I was staying with a friend, but I can't stay there anymore. So I'm like, I'm going to sleep under that tree right there. I was like, I don't care. I'm good until I get paid.

I'm young. You know what I mean? I'm warrior. Like, I've slept under the stars before. I don't care. If I had a car, I would have slept in that. They're like, no, I'm moving into a house. We're about to close. You can come live with me. But we don't have space now, but when we get this house, you come live with me. And I'm like, fine. And they're like, they're like, so seriously, you sleep and I'm like I'm not joking I'm gonna sleep under that tree right there and and they're like no they gave me some money they go get your go get yourself a little motel you know what I'm in the hood rat and festive motel man gunshots outside everything like I'm like bro I was in van eyes guys anybody know bro I was on I was on Roscoe and um uh Roscoe and uh what was the cross street

Rosco and Havenhurst or something like that I can't remember but I was in the hood I'm like right next to a strip club I mean it's always drama but I'm in my little hotel room. I didn't go outside. I went to work. I ate and I came in the house and I just sat there and I was just so happy to have this position. And then after two weeks or so, you know, I got paid. So I went from making maybe $22,000 a year. I only think I made that much to I'm in training. I'm making $60 grand. I got hired. I'm making $60,000. And the FAA and the union had just negotiated a new contract where there was like pay raises coming. So I went from $60,000. to 78,000, right, to like 84,000 to over 100,000.

And all this happened within, like, less than a year. I'm like, oh, bro, I'm all, I'm good. Got an apartment. I stayed with my friends for it. They hooked me up. 80, 90s? This is 1998. It's 1998 in LA.

Still, you know, before. It's still expensive, but not like it is now. Not like it is now. But yeah, I'm like, dude, one of the other guys that started. with me. We got an apartment in Warner Center. So we're like in the valleys. I go from being homeless to now we got a two-bed room with a lofts, you know what I mean, with this beautiful, you know, community, hot tubs everywhere, women walking around, man, I'm getting paid. Like, still didn't have a car to go buy a car. I was able to go buy a car. So within a year and a half,

within 18 months of me leaving Cincinnati being broke, trying not. to get caught doing crazy stuff to living in L.A. in the San Fernando Valley in a real cool spot. I'm driving the seven series now. You know what I mean? I'm like, oh, did it all legal. Did it all legal. So I was so proud of that. And I stayed at Van Nuys for the majority of my career. I spent three years in Miami, spent a couple years in San Diego, but I kept coming back to Van Nuys. And I retired out of Van Nuys. I loved what I was doing. Being in Air Traffic Control, man, It's a great career, but it is stressful, and you do see things. You know, I know how you feel about flying, so I'm not going to get into the details

because you are already about right, because I saw, you did an interview with a brother and y'all were talking about, you know, being nervous on flights and stuff like that and airplanes making noise. I was watching one of your podcasts. I mean, I don't think I'm alone. No, you're not. And I'm not really nervous. I can't sleep on the plane, but it does make me nervous when you hear things.

Like all of a sudden you're, is it wrong? And you're like, and I'm, you know, it's like, that's not normal. That doesn't, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that is no. That's, that's something, that's, sometimes it's the gear coming down. Sometimes it's them, you know, they're moving fuel around in the tank. So you hear the stuff come on. It doesn't feel normal.

And I have to constantly tell myself, like, when they're, because this is when I'm most nervous, when they're taking off or they're landing. Because I, I've heard that those are the, those are the worst possible times that, like, something goes wrong during those periods. Like, it's, it's very seldom a moment they ever able to pull it off. Like something goes wrong in the air, you're okay. You know, you're way up there. You have plenty of time.

You have, there's plenty of time to talk. It's during the takeoff and during landing, that's when if things go wrong, it could go really wrong. Yes. But the other thing is like, you know what I tell myself while I'm watching, as we're coming down or as we're taking off, I tell myself that, you know, these are fucking engineers. These things have been flying forever. They're amazing.

These are brilliant people. They know exactly what they're doing. Don't, don't think about the. fact that this thing weighs, you know, whatever, 90 tons. And the fact is that I'm looking at this and there's no way this thing should fucking fly. This thing shouldn't get, I don't care if we're going 300 miles an hour. There's no way this thing should come off the ground. You know, and but you're looking at the wing as like all these things around. I'm like, no, these people are smart. They know what they're doing. You don't know anything. You're just an idiot. You're fine. You're in their hands.

You're good. I have to tell myself all that so that I don't sit there and just start going like panicking. See, math is amazing. I got to tell yourself, math is amazing. Amazing. These people are brilliant. They know what they're doing. You don't. Sit down. I sleep like a baby on airplanes, bro.

I can't sleep at all. I was paratrooper, man. We get on a bird, go to sleep, man. I mean, and then when we wake up, the door opens, we jump out. So I'm not even worried about it. I mean, I can't sleep with my wife drives. I know control. Plus, the fact that she can't stay on the road, like literally.

I mean, you know, those bumps. I can't tell you how I can't tell you how many times I woke up. And I look at her. She's, it's fine. It's fine. I was texting. Well, that doesn't help. That doesn't make it feel better.

right now. You were what? You know, cut this part out, man. We don't want to get him trouble, bro. He said his wife can't drive. I'd tell her if she was right here. She'd be like, oh, text. What do you want me to text? I'm fine. Do, do, do, do. I had to, I mean, I just, the TikTok was amazing. You didn't see it. Don't kill us. But no, man. So, and I did that, bro.

How old were you when you were hired? 37? You retired at 30? Oh, I'm sorry. I think shit when I was hired. I just retired. I was 50. Okay. 50 when I was hired. My God. I wish. I wish.

I was for four years. Full pension. You can pull it up. So as an air traffic controller, right, you can only work for so long as a controller. I mean, there's caveats for if you get into management and stuff like that. But because right now they're doing a hire. They're looking to hire people, no experience necessary. If you get in at age 18, all you need is 25 years and you can retire at any age.

Right. So I had to wait until 50, but you can get out of there, depending. on when you get in you know it's funny you would meet people in the in the bop um where they literally had gone into let's say the military at like 17 yep and then they retired after like 20 years or whatever so they retired after 20 years then they went they became a police officer they retired after like 20 or 25 years and then now they're working on a b now they're like in their late 50s early 60s but they're working for the bop it's like bro like this is insane they're like, I got two pensions that are going to be coming.

Social Security plus two, two government pensions. They're like, I'm not going to be able to finish this one. But it's like, that's insane. You know, but they'll retire making probably more money than they made any one of those jobs. Yep, yep, they put together. I work with a guy who was L.A. County Sheriff. He did that.

He retired. And they had a program that he qualified for. He could become an air traffic controller. And he did. So he was a retired L.A. County Sheriff while I was working with him, pulling a pension. and he was he pulling his pension? I think he was.

And he was in air traffic controller working towards that second pension. You know, and if he wasn't pulling the pension, he's pulling it now because he retired. So, you know, probably retired would just stack the two pensions on top. Right. And he was in real estate too.

And you're getting social security. Like you can get some, not all of it. You get a portion of it still. Yeah. Yeah. It's some little Chinese, man. We all know that's going to do. That's going to be no more social security.

Forget about it, y'all. Don't tell me that. I'm sorry, bro. I'm banking on it. I'm sorry. I got, I owe six, like, it's not like I can save any money. I go six million. Well, I've got it down like, it's like 5.7 now.

I was going to ask you about that, bro. Yeah. 5.7. Well done, man. You know what I'm really chipping away at it. There you go, boy, they tink, tink, tink. So, but then you, and then you, but you retired and then you, did you, were you doing stand-up full-time at that point, or?

Well, I'm a dad. I'm a dad. So my number one thing is my best, the best job, I love being a dad. That's my number one thing. So I didn't rush into doing stand-up and promoting stuff like that or doing the YouTube stuff. I just- But you were doing it also while you were- Yes. Okay.

So as an air traffic controller, I would air traffic control by day basically and I would go out and do stand-up at night. The air traffic control world had no idea I was doing comedy as vice versa. So comics were just like, oh, it's just another comedian, you know, but I wasn't living in my car. I wasn't, you know, living with eight other dudes. I was, you know, I had money to eat with. I would take people out and I got the tab or whatever.

So they didn't know what I was doing. They probably thought I was doing something illegal. They had no idea. The air traffic controllers didn't know. Only a couple of my friends knew I was doing comedy. I did it on purpose. I wanted to see if I could be a real comic. I don't want to bring my friends out.

If anybody out there thinking about doing comedy, the worst thing you can do for yourself is bring your friends out to your shows when you first start. Because they're going to want to support you and whatever. You need to know if you're funny or not. Yeah. I was going to say it's like reading it's like being a writer and then giving your buddies your manuscript to read.

What are they going to say? It sucks, bro. It sucks, bro. It sucks. You don't know what you're doing. They're all going to be, oh, no, it was good. Yeah, I like that part about the guy and the, like, this is a bad idea. Don't send it to me. I'll have notes and everything. You see me your screenplay, bro, because I play it around with the cool kids. I'm like, all right, I like the premise, but I'll be all into it, bro.

But the average person's not going to do that. They just want to support you. So I always tell people, don't bring any of your friends out, you know, get a couple years under your belt before you do. And that's what I did. So once I got to a point where I'm like, okay, I'm accepted as a comic. I'm out here doing my thing. I started to let my comedic friends and my air traffic family, you know, to know about the two

worlds that they blend it because we would do shows. We would, like, promote shows on sunset, like in Hollywood and North Hollywood and Van Eyes, wherever. People would come to me and say, hey, man, we want to do a show. Can you put together a show at my bar or at my restaurant or at my whatever? Yeah, I could do it. And the reason I do is because I love comedy. I just want to have the perfect show. Like, I love it when people have a good time and the comics get a good audience.

And it's just brilliant. And in L.A., I mean, I got to a point where I can talk to people. Like, I can say, hey, so-and-so, can you come do this? you know, you might have Tony Rock or Sebastian Manacosco who used to come to my shows all the time, real cool dude. Sebastian's like the top dude in the business right now. He's one, he's killing it right now.

Brett Ernst, you know, Sam Tripley, who was killing it back then. Ty Barnett, like all these people who have gone on to do great things. You know, Tammy Pasquitelli, you know, Gabriel Iglesias, you know. The first two seasons of that, what's the comic thing?

There was a reality show about comedy. comics. Dangan it, I can't think of it right now. They're like, this guy ain't no real comic. But there was a, there was a reality show about comics. And the first two seasons that show, I knew everybody was on the show. Like a lot of those guys came to perform at some of my events. So now it was good that I know where traffic and shoulders, because I can bring them out.

Controllers got money. They come out, they buy drinks, they eat, they have a good time, they enjoy the show, and they go home, they show up on time. It's great. I got the comics there so I could get, you know, me good comics in there. So I was doing good. At one point, bro, it was like hustling, man. I was making almost as much money doing these different shows than I was making that work.

So I wasn't even touching my ATC money. I'm just like living off of the money I'm getting from promoting shows. Like people, you know, hey, we'll pay you $500 a week if you put your show together. Hey, we'll give you 25% of the bar if you put these shows together in Hollywood, bro. I could be a good chunk. And I'm running four or five shows a week every week. So I'm like, bro, I thought I was hustling. I'm walking around like, bro, I got bread and I could get into all the clubs.

Everyone knew me. I'm thinking like, yeah, I missed a big out this joint. I ain't doing nothing illegal. It was great. There's no real pressure on you to make money doing it either. So, you know, you tend to love things. I tend to like things a lot better. You know what I'm doing just because I enjoy it and not because I'm trying to chase

a dollar. Like this. And that show was called Last. comic standing. Ah, okay. Last comic standing. So the first couple seasons of that, all those comics, I'm interacting with them, talking to them, whatever.

It's great. So, yeah, man, so I was doing that, man. It was great. I didn't have any kids. I'm out here in Hollywood, bro. I'm kicking it with the cool kids. Man, I'm going to, I'm on set movie sets. You know, I got friends doing, you know, movies and TV shows, and they're bringing

me in. I'm just kind of hanging out. Man, that's the, boy, that's the best. when you're like just a guest of whoever the director or producer or maybe the principal like actors man they treat you like royalty bro everything's free you go in there eat you want something on a haircut what yeah dude i'm just getting paid want a haircut get your hair cut you know i do your beard bro see you bow i can shave your hair for you okay there's no money i can't even tip them you know what you're hungry we got filet over here wants fillet what yeah

we used to fillet and mashed potatoes what food services bro craft services is amazing yeah i'm right now my wife and I are binge watching. We're on the, on the third season of entourage, you know? And so you see like, and, you know, it's real close to that, bro. Yeah. And I, I'm going to, it's funny you say that because I, while we're watching it, I was like, listen, I was like, like, Mark Wahlberg, I watched an interview with him. And I said, you know, he's the executive producer of entourage.

And it's loosely based on him and his cousin. and his brother who'd all gone, you know, I mean, most people maybe don't know this because that's an older show. But, um, and he was explaining like, look, you have to understand. Like, there are some things we obviously conflate. And obviously there's some stories that we have to condense because this, something like this would take place over the course of two years. We have to do it in one episode. So we make it seem like he ran over here and he called him and he's so and so and he bought out such, you know, to get it all done. He's like, but really that took place much longer. He said, but for the most part, he was like,

Like, this is an extremely representative. This show is extremely representative of how they treat you, how deals get done. And I'm always telling her, like, you understand that it's not like the best script, the best movie, and the best actor that because, you know, like my story. Like, everybody's like, why isn't your story a movie? Well, here's why. Because most movies get made because Jimmy's cousin is the director of such and such. and he knows this producer. And Todd knows so-and-so who this.

And so-and-so just lost this movie. And he's now able to sign on to this project. And so-and-so just so happened to owe so-and-so a favor. And they all got together and they went to, and they happened to go to a meeting and bump into the head of Warner Brothers. And now they're going to make a movie about called Dumbo Drop, where they're going to drop an elephant out of an airplane to say in Indonesia somewhere. Indonesia to save some fucking tribe or the U.S. military and it helped the military in operation, a movie that never should have been made. But it just so happens that the stars aligned and that movie gets made. Where it's this amazing movie never gets made. And I was told this because I just went, came back from L.A. A guy told me it used to be the average movie got it took about seven years to get made. It now the average movie. And this is movie. It's not series.

but the average movie takes 13 years on average to get made. And I was like, I thought, that's insane. I could believe that. That's fucking insane. Gaykeepers are real, bro. I mean, I can't imagine anything. Like, it's a, and let's face it, you've seen the movies that come out. It's still not based on the best script, the best story, the best, it's still not based on it.

They're really trash now, bro. Like, the creativity is gone. All they want is what they think is a sure-fired hit. I mean, you look at Disney, you look at Marvel, you know, look at what they're, This is absolutely going to work or they get something, they water it down. Well, you know what I think, too, like the Disney stuff,

it's like, because it's all so, you know, I probably shouldn't say this, but it's so woke now, you know, obviously, and you're watching your numbers dive and dive and dive. And you then,

Disney then, instead of saying we need to change this, they dig in. Yeah. And it's like, listen, here's the problem. And it is.

It's the whole, it's the whole Hitler, Stalin. It's you've surrounded yourself by people by yes men. They're telling you everything you're doing is correct, even though all the numbers say it's not correct. And then you're abusing or speaking down to the, even if 50% of the country was woke, you're talking down to the other half. Like you're not saying, hey, we feel this way. You know, let's all get along. You're saying, you guys are all wrong. We're 100% right.

We're going to push this agenda on you and try and cancel you if you're not okay with it. And in the meantime, your studios are going under. Your movies are losing. Stock prices are crashing. Right. Like at some point, don't you have to say, look, you know, like, we fucked up. Like, to me, it takes, I'll forgive almost anybody if they apologize. I mean, Bud Light did it.

Yeah. With that more than anything, they did it. And then they bring out, who did they bring out, shoot, oh boy from the Cowboys and Peyton Manning and, God, what's the name of the runnerback from the Cowboys? Legendary Runnerback back in the 80s, our time. Emmett Smith. So if you look at that, they came out after Bud Light,

debacle with Dylan Mulvaney. Yeah. They got Peyton Manning throwing beers to people, the dudes in the bar, throwing Bud Lights. And then Emmett Smith comes in and they're doing these amazing, and catches and stuff like that. That's what I'm saying. We're sorry.

Yeah, yeah. Sorry, America. Sorry, sorry we pissed y'all off. Sorry, you stop drinking our nasty-ass beer. I'm not a beer guy, but Bud Light is horrible, bro. America's bought Bud Light because it was America's beer. You know what I mean? And those people loved it.

It was like, my dad drank Bud Light and his dad drank Bud Light and my grandma drank Bud Light. I ain't mad at that. It's like a tradition. You go to Barbecue. Hey, man, you want a Bud Light? No, go get me in Hennessy. I'm a grown up.

I don't want no nasty ass beer. You know what I mean? But they shit. on those people, bro. Yeah. That's what I was going to say. The big thing is, is that you, you really alienated yourself from your core group. Instead of saying, and they were saying, well, we were trying to expand the brand and make it more inclusive.

Okay, that's not the way you. That's not what you did. Obviously, you didn't do. You didn't pull off some random people on the street and show them what you were about to do. You clearly made the wrong decision here. I mean, that was just horrible. Well, old girl, the lady who came up with that and those videos are her saying the people are stupid or whatever she was saying. And like I said, she got paid to do all that, even when she walked away or whatever,

she walked away with millions. Yeah. Please let me fuck up something like that and pay me $45 million. Yeah, I'm going to say, golden parachute. Please, just one. Which is different than a golden shower. Hey, hey, there you go. That was your one minute right there.

Look at Colby. You know what that is, don't you? Yeah, y'all get a little degenerates. You know, either one of them. No, listen, Colby is. Colby's from Plant City He's married to his high school sweetheart He has a daughter

And he's got another one on the way Like he is You know Like listen my Like my wife feels like Like don't cuss around Colby Like you know she's like She feels like he's the most innocent

And honestly he is a very Wholesome innocent You shouldn't be around us bro We're the Sith over here bro Like you're like the perfect You're the chosen one He's like the perfect Jedi We're over here

Two Sith lords over here talking about the bad things. I think our first, was it our first podcast? Was, what's his name? Dowd was the first podcast. Dowd's a corrupt cop from New York. And honestly, to this day, like known as like the most corrupt cop in New York history. What?

He's the goat? Oh, yeah. He, listen, and he's talking about. Did he shoot supper call? Like, who was this dude? He's talking about selling crack and taking crack off people and extorting people. And like, it was just, and I'm sitting the whole time. I'm thinking, what is Colby thinking?

He's got to be thinking, like, what have I got myself into? He was thinking, God save me. That's what he was thinking. And listen, the next guy that comes in has been arrested like 30 times. The next guy that's come, like, you know, they're all criminals that most of these guys are criminals. And I'm telling you by like the month two, he had, he was just like, this is insane. This guy robbed four banks. This guy, he's talking about selling heroin.

This guy's talking about, you know, it's just insane. That's great. Hey, man, good for you, bro. You know what I'm saying? But like I said, man, be careful around me, man. I have you joined the dark side. I would love to see, I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall during the first few conversations with he and his wife. You know, like, like, so what happened today?

Listen, I don't, this guy. No, no. It was fine. He brought, y'all, he brought in some Christian guys. Yeah, we were just, we were singing songs. It was amazing. And in his mind, he's just like, yeah, meth, meth, death. Cocaine.

Um. Escort. Yeah, you know what's so funny about that? I was trying to be polite, right? I'm not asking a lot of personal questions, but towards the end, when it was wrapping up, Colby starts asking questions. He's like, I have a question. Like, what are you charging for these things?

Like, Colby, like, he's like, where are these girls? Well, what are they do? Well, how are you? And I'm like, yeah, these are all questions I should have asked. That'd have been number one. First question. How much to take a dump on your stomach? Just curious.

Oh, God. Just curious. Like, what are you doing? Mark that down. You know, that's not going to be okay. People get mad at us for, like, you know, bleeping stuff out. But it's got to get monitored. Do you have very, well, listen, listen.

All kind of problems, bro. Do you have problems getting monetized? I'm monetized, but YouTube is coming for me, bro. I barely. So I had about, I don't know, maybe less than a week ago, I had 1,830-something subscribers. And then in a 12-hour period, I lost 150 subscribers. How?

That's what I want to know. Did you say something super insulting? I think I did. I think, so I'm not like crazy with it. Like, this is about as risque as I get this conversation right here. I don't go crazy with it. The name of my podcast, I really want to know. So I talk about all sorts of stuff, politics, you know,

intersexual dynamics, you know what I mean? I'm considered red pill, manosphere, content fine, you know, it is what it is. but I put out a one minute YouTube short in which I said hey I don't care what anybody says I believe YouTube you know censors people I believe YouTube if they don't like your content

and they're gonna show it yeah that's that's it's it's it wasn't crazy that just you know like it is what it is it's their platform they can do what they want just letting you know if they don't like you they're gonna you know make it hard 12 hours later 150 subscribers gone not even 12 hours

It was really like six to eight hours. I was just like, look, I'm like, what the hell? And also, I had a short about, you know, Puffy, the ditty thing. I had a short about the ditty thing. I had a, I talked about Lizzo. I'm like, you know. A short or show? Both.

But from the show, I cut it down. I did, you know, I like to do YouTube shorts. That's where I'll get the bulk of my views. Like, I'll do YouTube shorts for like one minute or less. Put that up there. And, you know, the one I did on Sean Combs, like 4,600 views, that's a lot for me, right? It's like, wow, that little one minute. The show I did on the.

might be like 45 views, 80 views or something like that, but the short 4,500. I said something about Lizzo, and I said the thing about the, you know, suppression. And there's no way I had 150 Lizzo fans that got, oh my God, I can't believe you said this about Lizzo in Jump Ship. Right. Same thing with Sean Combs. There's no way I had 150 Sean Combe dedicated hardcore people to jump ship. That's just, that's not my lane.

So I'm just trying to figure out what I did. I do know, not at roughly 11, 1,200 subscribers, but I do know that periodically YouTube will go through and they'll do something because, let's say, every four to six months, my, our subscribers will drop several hundred, right? Same thing, you know, like percentage was, probably the same thing. Right, but, but I mean, you know, I'm saying, it's several hundred and it's like, what just happened? And I think periodically they, they must clean up something, do a purge or something, something, like,

Maybe these are inactive people or those subscribers have, or those channels have closed or become inactive. I'm not sure what the, because let's face it, if I, we've got over 220,000 subscribers right now. 220,000 subscribers are not watching my videos. Exactly. It's like 8 to 12% of those people are watching my videos. And that's good. Yeah, that's good. That's really good.

Is it that hot? Because I think normally somewhere between. Or the channel. Or the channel. Yeah, yeah. I think the channel overall, monthly, like the 28-day average. So it'll be like 8% of your subscriber base watched a video on your channel. Not every video.

That would be great. If 8% of every video we got, like, that would be great. Smoking. Yeah, that'd be 35 to 40,000 views on every single video. But you got videos with millions of views, bro. I think I saw one like four million views on your channel. Those are shorts. Shorts, we have 5, 6 million, 4 million.

but but 35% of our watch time is from subscribers oh 35% that's that's really good bro yeah um like i know what i'm talking about i've been doing this for like a hot you know not even 18 months i'm like oh yeah that's really good bro that's well listen you know what's so funny is it takes the average i heard it takes the average youtube or three years to get a thousand subscribers on average yeah so but you know it's consistency you got pbd said five it took him five years oh five years i think pbd took him five years but think of when he started though yeah yeah But he said it took him five years to get that first thousand and then it took off. I wonder how serious he was initially, you know.

Probably just here and there, every blue moon. But, you know, that makes sense. Someone like me, I did it right at a year, maybe a hair under a year. My buddy, Zach, was monetized within 30 days. But he also came on the podcast several times. Okay. And so three of those hour, two-hour podcasts, we, put them on his show on his channel then we did a couple podcasts where we mentioned he had just

started a channel and then he started telling his story on his channel he is a crime story um and so he started so within 30 days boom he's he's uh he's uh well we we were able to apply for monetization two days later it's monetized three days later so yeah um but you know that but that is that is extremely rare that's why i hate it when people are like you know you should have two million And subscribers are like, bro, do you understand how good I'm doing? How, and how, what a leg up I've had? A lot of people follow you, bro. Every time I would say, hey, because I was being secretive.

I didn't, because I'm like, I don't, you know, I'm not one of those guys. Like, I don't want to jinx it. But I didn't want to jinx it, right? I was like, I'm not going to say nothing. The last thing I need is to tell everybody I'm going to be on this podcast and something happens and I couldn't do it. Or, like, I was like, all right, after we shoot it, it's in the can. I don't know what's going to come out, but I'll say it then.

And you're not texting me either. by the way. So, like, I'm texting, you know, because Colby will say, like, hey, is everybody good for Tuesday and Thursday? And I'm, and I text. And I'm, and when I looked at Joe, it's like, this guy's not texting. You were only texting me back when I was like, hey, really excited about Tuesday. And you're like, me too, bro. I was going to hit you on Monday. See, I was going to hit you. I'm like, I want to make sure we're still good. I was going to hit you Monday morning. You hit me Sunday. Like, I didn't want to bother you. Here's another thing, too, bro. This is, this is how I worked because I was in Hollywood.

I don't want to bother anybody. We're professionals, we're men. I gave you my word. You gave me your word. You gave me an opportunity. I'm not going to screw that up. But there's so many people that don't move like that. So you're like, I don't want to mess this slot up.

Dude, are you coming? I'm, I sent you a couple of things. I'm like, hey, you see this? You're like, yep, I'm watching it now. Because I were like, hey, if you see this thing about Sean Combs, on some podcast, and you hit me back. Like, yeah, I'm watching it now. Right.

And so we were, you know, it was a little bit weeks ago. But I'm not going to get, but I'm not going to bug you. I'm like, we're good. And today, like, I jumped in a car. I set the GPS and then it says, do you want to share your ETA? And I shared it with your number. Like, yeah, I want to share it. But apparently you didn't get it because then you hit me up.

Like, what's your ETA? And I was like, that's what I was like, boom, 934. But I was assuming that technology fails all the time. People and kids live by it. Yeah, I was going to, shoot. I was just going to say something too. um i'm getting old uh i am old you say you getting old i'm already here bro i'll tell you it's down here from here bro well i know i was gonna tell you i was like you also have to think the people

that i typically deal with so we i schedule about seven a week and the hope that four show up yeah right so sometimes i get lucky sometimes it's six but i very seldomly schedule seven where all seven show up usually it is four you know because these guys are just they'll just the day before they'll just skip out or they'll you know and a lot of times they don't or they get nervous we think guys should get show up and want to leave like so yeah what are you doing we had a guy drive we talked about this yesterday we had a guy drive what from texas from texas on his motorcycle 30 minutes in he's like listen man can we just do this another time because i'm really feeling comfortable and i'm like i'm super nervous and we're like what okay like you're good you're i feel like i'm coming

off bad no you're coming off good like what are you doing you can't leave like this is gold, baby. I'm like, listen, this guy drove 45 minutes to get here. Like, we scheduled the whole day. And he was like, oh, you know, okay, well, so he walked around a little bit, came back, sat down, I was like, I feel better. But it was just like, like, what are you doing? People get nervous, man, and this is not natural. Most folks have a fear of speaking in front of crowds. We're speaking in front. Bro, you have a huge following. People, like I said, everyone I hit up in my circle, they knew exactly who you were. And yeah, man, I watch this stuff. My brother, it's all over. Like, yeah, yeah, I watch dude.

He's like, yeah, man, he had to sit down, man, financial stuff, right? He's in Cincinnati. He's like, yeah, he was financial stuff right, yeah. He's like, man, shout out the dude, bro. He sat down, bro. I was like, yeah, yeah, too, you know what I mean? So he's like, yeah, I think he did a little bit more time to me. And then I watched his story.

I'm like, he did a lot more time to you, homie. That's pretty cool. Yeah, I was going to say that, yeah, these guys, they don't show up and they don't because you got to think they're criminals. Like, most of these guys get out. and they're still barely hanging on. And so we'll get the, they'll just completely flake out. Yeah, man.

I mean, it's cool. And we did come here to talk about, Sean. I'm digging a conversation about I don't want to keep you. I want to, yeah, no, because I. Hey, we know you probably hit play to escape your business banking, not think about it. But what if we told you there was a way to skip over the pressures of banking? By matching with the TD Small Business Account Manager, you can get the proactive business banking advice and support your business needs.

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I couldn't tell you, oh, that's, that's, that's, right. you know, I guess what do they call him now? Diddy? Yeah. We know him as Puffy. Yeah. Oh, Puffy, see. We know him as they call him Diddy now. We know him as P.

I think P. Ditty. Whenever I hear Ditty, I think P. Ditty. Because that's what I think I. Oh, that was your area. It was P. Ditty. So, you know, to me, like, I couldn't tell you one of his songs. You know, I could, but even if I would recognize him, I still wouldn't even put the name with it. I do now.

But if you'd said, hey, if you put a lineup, which one of these guys is P. Ditty, I'd be like, I don't, you know, I might have picked out, you know, Biggie Smalls, you know, until recently. That was how he hit the scene was too big. So, and it's funny, though, we talk about, because, you know, I came up in the 70s, right? So we talk about rap. People are like, well, what's your talking to me? Like, what's the first song, the first rap song that you, you know, really rocked to him you remember.

And I'm like, devil went down to Georgia, Charlie Daniels band. And they're like, that's not rap. I'm like, go listen to it. He rhyming. The devil went down to soul. When the devil went down to Georgia, he was willing to make a deal, he was way behind, he was in the bind, he was willing to make a deal or whatever. I'm sorry, but yeah.

And then Johnny came out of nowhere, like, yeah, how bad are you? I'm so good on this fiddler. I'm going to bet the devil my soul that I'm better than him. Come on, man, that's rap. You talk about bragging rights? Bro, I beat the devil. See, now somebody's going to remake that. Have they already?

Charlie Daniels did. No, I mean, I'm saying remake it something. Like a rapper? Yeah. Maybe. I mean, I don't know, but, but think about that, man, Johnny got a golden fiddle. Yeah. That's, what's, that's hip-hop, babe?

A golden fiddle? Come on, bro. I'll be walking around like, hey, man. Yeah, where'd you get that? It'd be hanging around my neck. Be walking around like, yeah, I got that golden fiddle, bro. Who do? Who won't some?

Who wants some? But no, that was, to me, that was like, I thought that was, like, rap. And I was, like, to me, that's like the first rap. I was, we should roller skate to that. You know, Kenny, Kenny Rogers, the, the, gambler, man. No one to hold them. No one to fold them.

No one to walk away. No one to run. Like, bro, that's game. That's game right there. That's street. So I've always been partial to some country, you know what I mean. I used to watch the Barbara Mandrell show. I don't know if you remember this.

I don't know if you're old enough to remember that. I don't think I've ever watched this show, but I remember who Barbara Mandrell is. And her sister. I just watch that shit live, bro. We used to watch Barber Mandrell, bro. We used to watch He-Ha. You know what I mean? Plain.

In City, Florida, population, 5, 103. Salute. You got to watch. Pull up, he-haw when you get a chance. Bro, that was some of the funniest. We used to watch that stuff growing up. So for us, the real hip-hop is just a clash of all these cultures. And then, of course, you know, rappers delight hit, you know what I mean?

You know, Sugar Hill Gang hit. And once that came out, you know what I mean, hip-hop, hip-hippies-hippity hip-hip-hop, you don't stop a rock. That was the first song. That was the first one that really hit big. But before that, you would have. had, you know what I mean, the message and all those other kind of stuff. So in New York, that culture was bubbling under for a long time. But for us, it took, it took a while for it to reach the Midwest and then hit the South. And then it took off and became what it came. So, yeah.

Well, I was going to say the first time I really actually became, like, aware of rap would have been the movie colors. You remember color? I am a nightmare walking, psychopath talking. Yeah, King of my Jungle just a gangster walking. Bro, living like. like a firecracker quick as my fuse, my vendetta's death, back the colors you choose. You could probably get iced tea on this podcast. You know that, right? You probably could.

You could get ice on here, bro. I'm for real. Man, Mark, we're going to work on that. I bet you you can get ice. You might have to go to him. You might have to go to Miami. But I bet you can get ice. Is he in Miami?

I would have thought he spends time. You know, he spends time. Well, you know, New York because they shoot the show, you know, the SV and all that. I'm going to say so many people are leaving L.A., you know, and New York for Florida. Like, it's amazing. When I did Patrick Bet David, he was in, he was in Texas.

Like, they flew me out to Texas. He was living there for a moment. Yeah, that's right. No, his whole setup was there. Yeah, yeah. Like, they had, they had like his company. It was, it was like an industrial complex and you walk in. I mean, it's this massive building.

Same thing. And you need to go down, check them out down in Fort Lauderdale. I know he's, we actually drove by, we actually drove right by it when I was down there. They got two locations in Fort Lauderdale. Oh, I didn't know that. I just saw, well, I remember we drove. right by a building. I was like, oh, my God, that's Patrick McDaniels.

Yeah. I just thought that was the whole thing. It was a huge building. Man, hit him up. You should go down and check him out, bro. Well, I mean, I've already done his thing. I mean, but Paso, he's a, I think it's a cool cat. No, he was super cool.

He was very, well, first of all, it upset me. I was a little upset just because he's so tall. And he's very tall, and he was on a platform that must have been like 18 inches tall. So when I walked in the building and I walked into the studio, I was talking to his, to his editor or his, his engineer. I was talking to his engineer, and I, and he goes, hey, Pat, and I looked up, and he stood up, and now I'm five feet away from him, and he stood up, and it's like, like, you're not already fucking tall enough. You're six foot six, maybe six, five. And you're standing on an 18-inch platform, and he puts his hand out, you practically had to bend over to shake my hand, I thought. I think, I think, I think, Pat, six-four, because he and Myron, he might be a hair shorter than Myron games.

Myers, like, six, three, six-four. but he's a big dude. Yeah, but I'm 5'6, bro. So everybody, if you're 5'7, you're a giant. If you're 5'8, it's like, this is ridiculous. Pachita tells you to sing the Munchin's calling. So I'm just to just start singing the muncheon's calling, so I'm walking around. You know, it's funny, though, he's exactly the same way when the camera's on.

When you talked about how the camera comes on, people kind of play a little bit of a role, like exactly the same on camera, off camera. That's the fact. Yeah, he was, that's the fact, brother. When you're mentioning. Very nice, very cool. He's very inquisitive, and he loves a good conversation. And he served, he was in the Army.

He was Air Assault. So I was Airborne. Airborne and Air Assault, like, brothers. And Airborne looks at Air Assault as the Little Brothers. Like, you're too scared to do what we do. Because Air Assault, basically, you just repel from a helicopter. And it's like, if you get low enough to repel from a helicopter, you might as well land. And now they do fast rope where they just throw a rope down.

You have gloves on. You just quickly slide down a rope like a pole kind of thing called fast roping. But Air Assault School, you repel out of the helicopter, whatever. And it's always animosity between airborne, the 101st Airborne Division and then Air, I'm sorry, the 82nd Airborne Division and then the 101st was Air Assault. And Pat was Air Salt. So whenever, when I first met him, it was at an event at Valuetainment. He came, just kind of hang out.

He has, at one of their locations, they have a cigar bar attached to it. So it's a cool little cigar bar. He gets cigars or whatever. And Pat was in there, walked up. And, you know, I was like, what's up, Air Assault? And he looked at me. Right away, it got us a ticked. Because like I said, that's, that's animosity.

Airborne, Peritubers and Air Assault guys fight all the time. But we ain't trying to kill each other. We just fight. It is what it is. So when guys be walking around like, yeah, we're Air Assault. And it's like, you know what peritubas think of Air Assault? And they're like, what? Too scared to jump, too lazy to walk.

Air assault. You know, and then they get mad. They get mad. Like, you know what's true, bro. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? This is like his own. But when I first met him, I was talking out Army Banter, and he was right with it.

Like, he lit up. We just, you know what I mean? It's a real cool dude. Great conversation. And you're right. He's the exact same person on cameras. He is off camera. Hard working, bro.

Very religious man now. But, you know, doesn't shout away from his past. Yeah, man, I ain't gonna lie to you, man. If you ever get a chance to go down there, you should check out one of their events. I'm pretty sure I'm part to talk to you, man. And you should do another show. I mean, you did it so long ago, man. I feel like, you know, he had just gotten to a million subscribers.

And, you know, I did the show. And since then, the people, people that he's interviewed, I just, I don't know, I feel like he was, I feel like now he's like, he's probably more selective about who he talks to. I don't really see him interviewing like criminals or anything, you know, anymore. I mean, I don't, he says that he only, he likes to interview people that he wants to have a conversation with. Yeah, he's had that conversation with me. He's had that conversation, but all the interest in me is gone now. Or, I mean, There's a new conversation, man, like these YouTube streets and, you know, hey, you're still on a straight and arrow and you're still doing this. I'm just, you know. Oh, yeah, yeah, no. No, no, I think, you know, I talked to a guy the other day who was talking about interviewing me. I was like, well, do you want, but he has a show that's more geared towards marketing and business. And I was like, do you want to, so I was like, well, so you want to talk to me about like, you don't, you don't, you know, he didn't mention crime. And I was like, okay, I said, well, yeah, I said, I could probably say, if you want, because typically I just kind of go over my crime story. And I said, if you want. And I said, if you want. And I said,

I said we can just talk about me getting, you know, I can give you a real quick recap about going to prison, getting out, and then what I'm doing now, because for some reason, you know, people find that fascinating that they're like, you got out, you know, you got out at zero and, you know, over the last five years while on supervised, while on probation, supervised release, while on supervised release, like you've done really, really well for having the hand cuffs on because there's tons of stuff I can't do. People are like, why don't you, oh, you should be doing this, doing that. Okay, wait a minute. I can't buy property. I can't, anything that I have actually have experience in, I'm, I'm barred from doing. I can't be in finance. I can't be in real

estate. I can't be in development. I can't be in construction. Like, just until you pay that $6 million back in this. Or no, until the five years is up. And keep mind that too. I can't, I can't, I couldn't even I can't, I can't, I have to ask permission to get a credit card. I have to ask permission to spend more than $500. From who? My probation officer. Damn, I didn't know that. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I have a financial. Because of the nature of your crimes. Because I have a financial crime. Like, if it was a drug crime, like literally, my wife got out. She saw her probation officer twice. And a year later, he said, look, you're fine. You're not, you're not, you're not any problems. You're doing great.

And, and, you know, you should be able to get terminated. And she sent in a paper a, a month. motion, two-page motion to the judge said, I want to get off probation. And he said, no problem, take her off. Rubberstam. Because they called probation. He said, yeah, she's no problems. The guy literally saw her twice. And keep mind, she had to fill out a form every month. So do I. The difference is when I fill out the form, I have to break down everything I've made, where the money went, I have to talk about, you know, I have to show my, um, my, my, my bank statements, my credit card statements.

It's, it's, it's, it's a complete breakdown of everything and what I'm doing. They, I have, at the end of the year, I have to do a financial statement. I have to, and that thing's like 30 pages long. I have to, there's so many things that are required for me. One, because I was at a very, I'm at a very, initially, I was at a very high level, risk level when I got out. So I had a special probation officer that was stopping by randomly at my house, giving me urine test.

I don't have a drug problem Random test Asking me for this paperwork I'm giving me just a really hard time About everything So So I mean with with all that said I'm saying like like

The fact that I'm not still living In someone's spare room Right People are like wow like you got out with nothing And you've done all this in five years Commendable bro Right so that's so that's why I think people Because you're supposed to go right back in

Yeah no 70 there's a 75% recidivist racism, right, within the first two years. Yeah, absolutely, because it is. You're supposed to go right back in. Now, I want to ask you something, bro, and before I ask the question, like, we're in here. You guys are real cool. I'm open. I'm wide open.

I don't care about what I'm about you. What I'm about to ask you is not a trap or anything like that. I just have to, nowadays, you've got to, you know, disclaimers for everything you say. Right. I want to talk about race. Okay. You know what I mean? So, like, just keeping it 100.

Because you were talking about your wife, she was on paper. You know, the supervised release, y'all, we're talking street here. She was on papers, but she's like, it seemed like she just got right off right away. Did her, you think her gender and her race maybe played a little bit into that? Like, if she were maybe a black woman or a Latino woman, or if she was a black dude or Latino dude, you think she would have gone the distance on the parole or no? No, because I think that she immediately got a job. Okay.

So it's more like you've got a job. You passed a, I think she took one or two. drug test. That's when she's, the guy showed up, passed a drug test. She took the ARDAP program, which is a residential drug treatment program in prison, and she passed as a nine-month program. She took that. She also did all the classes outside of prison. So when you're outside, you have three months of, I forget they call it, like, they call it something, maintenance classes, let's say, I don't think that's what they call it. Like continuing education type thing. Kind of like, yeah. So she took all those classes. She was in the halfway house when she took them,

but she would have taken them if she was out. And I think they stopped, she stopped by and she was working 60 hours a week and the guy's just like, you're not a problem. Like these guys have real problems to deal with. Like to me, like the last three years, I haven't had any issues with my probation officers because one, they dropped my custody level or my, you know, what are my risk level. And so the new probation officers have been much more lax. My probation officer here now is much more lax than the last two. and you know because every time every there's never been a time I've never gotten any violations like I've never gotten a violation all right so you know I've and I've never failed a urine test

I've never anything like that and every time she comes by like I'm here I'm always where I say I am I'm always so but you have to think she's like she's like I have like she's like I have like you're not a problem he's like I have real people that are problems you know and and that's the guys that And it's not even necessarily because of the individual. But let's face it, if you can't get a job, so luckily, I didn't, I was able to get a job in the halfway house. When I got out, I was able to sell enough paintings and books that I was able to pay restitution and make enough money to pay rent.

And I was able to do some speaking engagement. Like, luckily, the sensationalism of my crime worked at my advantage. but the truth is what if you're a black guy that got arrested in the hood you went and did 15 years they didn't train you to do shit no education yeah no education maybe you got lucky and uh my buddy my buddy zach and i helps you get your GED okay um you really weren't trying well you know they have some stuff you can do they do have some vocational literally it's years waiting you're waiting years to get in those programs and then when you get out what you've got is well you have a certificate that means nothing but you do have you do understand the basic

understanding of, let's say, how to do, you know, horticulture, which I'm not sure what you can do with horticulture, or maybe you can lay drywall, but that's a hard job. And in Florida, it's, it's almost like, it's, it's almost like torture. Yeah. So you get out, you can't get a job. It's very difficult to get a job. Maybe you end up working at, you know, at McDonald's, or you work at Wawa, or you know, maybe you get one of these types of, I don't want to say, bar back in or something like that. Yeah, yeah. But the fact is, is that you're not, first of all, you're not trained or have experienced

or capable of getting a job in an institution that pays better. And also, you're a felon, so you can't get in that job anyway. Right. You know, my wife got out, what she did while she was working, she went and did, went to a, you know, a vocational training course to become a certified marine mechanic. All right. Okay. And I was telling her, you know what she should do.

I said, you know who makes a lot of money is, because they're all just engines. I said, you ought to think about working on being a, like working on airplanes, right? Like an aeronautical mechanic. Yeah, you did that. I thought you were going to tell her to open the mortgage brokers. You know what you said to? No, she had. But you know what happened was she, so she called around.

She came back and they were all like, yeah, you can, you can take the class. You know, what's your certificate? You'll never. Like, it'll be five or six years after you're off probation before you can even apply to work on at an airport. And now maybe you can work at a smaller company. You know, they started explaining it to her. They were like, but you'd have to be off probation for two or three years. She's like, well, I need to get a job.

job immediately. Right. And she, so, you know, but for the marine, being a marine mechanic, you know, boat mechanic, she could get a job right away. Yeah. And they make decent money. Here in Florida, I mean, it's everywhere. Yeah, they're everywhere. With the lakes, yeah, everywhere. Because even doing that. But think about she had to go to school. She had somebody. Yeah. She could live at her dad's place for nothing. Work, she literally worked 40 to 50 hours a week while she was also going to, they let her work. She worked at a dairy plant, brother. You want to know, can you imagine working in a fucking day? It's horrible.

It's got to smell terrible. And it's in the middle of the night. She's working, she's getting there at like 8 o'clock when they've shut down. She's there seven or eight. She cleans the systems out with tons of chemicals, six to eight hours all, or about eight to ten hours all night to clean out all the lines, write the certifications up, write the things up, clean them all out so they can be ready for the next day when they start pumping the milk, milk in the cows again.

she did this every day yeah she's doing it like six days a week and keep mine these people like most of it's run by most of it is run by Mexicans a lot of them are legal you know I make that like I don't know very illegal um you know and so it's like 90% um Mexicans or or you know I shouldn't even say it's more like South Americans a lot of people were from like Honduras so it's not just a bit basically South Americans yep and so they would they would they worked that industry, and you want to talk about something that's fucked up. This always killed me. Did you know that in the dairy or farming industry in general that if you work as a labor and something breaks, if you go over 40 hours a week, because a lot of times like the equipment

breaks, so they'll sit around for four hours. And they'll have them do something else. But if they work 60 hours, they don't get overtime. They don't have to pay them overtime. So 60, 70 to 80 hours a week. And these guys work, like, they come here to work, man, bust their asses. We're not talking about the guest worker program, guys. We're talking about the people who scamper across the border. And that's another conversation. But it's people like, well, we want to stop, you know, illegal immigration. No, they don't.

The 1% don't want to do that. And the thing is, Americans don't want to do that work. And like you said, they're working hard, boy, they can't get old time. They do doing all that. I wouldn't do it. You know, even when I was younger, I wouldn't do it. That was, you know, I was thinking about the $20, $20 an hour. hour working at the fast food. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Like, well, here's why I think that's

really good. This is my take on it. And you probably have a different take, but that's not really helping those people. It's not. They don't get fired. No. And even if they don't, let's assume they keep their job. First of all, if you keep your job, all they're going to do is pass that on to the consumer. The consumer. So your food is, so it's really a tax on the poor. Because most of the people that eat at McDonald's on a regular basis are lower middle class. So, and, and so now if, if, if my food budget is, let's say, three percent, let's say somebody who's making 400,000 a year or something, let's say it's three percent. Let's say food shoots up. It may be, maybe my food budget jumps to 4 percent. But if you're poor, your food, your budget

is 15 percent. Well, it just jumped to 20 or 25 percent. Like, it just, you just, you know, it just, jumped because you're eating at those restaurants. You don't make enough anyway. That's really a tax on the poor. And on top of that, the people, do you really think that nobody ever owns one McDonald's? They own 14 or 160. So this guy doesn't really care. I'm going to pass it on to you. And what that really to me was, hey, look, we're helping you vote Democrat. The guy at the tops, he's a Republican. He's already voting Republican. The guy at the bottom, these people just hurt you. And yet you're thinking, $20 an hour, they're helping us. No, they just hurt you. They didn't hurt. First of all, rich people, even if they do eat at McDonald's once a

week at best, that doesn't change. Do you think I give a shit that my $2.50s, my $3 hamburger just jumped up to $4? I don't give a shit. Yeah, rich people are buying McDonald's to give it to the landscapers when they come home. They're not feeding it to their family. Here's my thing on that. Well, I'll say, so if they really cared about you, they really cared about poor people, they would have raised the minimum wage across the board. But they didn't. You know what I'm saying? Like that would have been at least a better, it would have been a more evenly, evenly distributed, you know, raising across the board, but they didn't do that. You just did

this one thing for this one group that doesn't really affect any. buddy. Right. So, all right, there's a few things here. I'm no expert guys. I'm just some retired dude who does YouTube's in his attic. All right. So just I'm going to preface it with this, with that. But here's a deal. From what I understand, there was a raise to the minimum wage some years back in Calais. Yeah. And it went up to, I think, $16 or something like that. Okay. But fast food was excluded for whatever reason. If I understand it correctly, somehow fast food got excluded or something like that or it was, well, this really doesn't help fast food

like we wanted to help, right? But everyone got a race. And then like, well, the fast food sector, those employees are hurt the most because they're most vulnerable, like the bottom of the spectrum and living in LA, $16 an hour is enough, you know, the other people, yeah, minimum wage went up, but the other folks were already making more money.

We need to get the fast food industry up, all right? And you're right, it was a political play. This is California. I go back and forth for my buddy about this all the time. I'm like, man, this is a bad move. I don't know if anybody thought this through. But they did think it through.

It's just a bad move. So like you said, you got this owner. Some guy owns 16 franchises, McDonald's, Burger King, whatever it is. He's already eyeing four stores that he wants to get rid of. Now he has the perfect excuse because they knew this was coming.

They knew this, they knew what day it was coming. They knew it was coming. I don't know why. they didn't write into the law a step-up kind of thing. Like, we're going from 16 to maybe whatever, 17-something, 18, and then all... That's how they did minimum wage for the most part, for most states.

It was gradual of the course of like five years. Right, it makes sense, right? So it's like, yay, we're helping the most vulnerable. Okay, now these owners are like, great. Some of them, like, that's an excuse I need to close these stores that weren't making money anyway. Right. I've been looking for a way to get them off my books.

You know what I mean? And then you look at the people who are getting 20, Are we going to get you $20 an hour to come drop fries or whatever, whatever? Cool. These owners have already been iron automation. We know we're going to bring robots in here

so whatever, we don't care about this. You just made it worth it. It was questionable before, but now it's the way to go. It's a go. And these people were talking about because I used to be one of these folks and I used to work in restaurants

and stuff like that. You're not getting 40 hours a week. You're not getting overtime. You're not getting benefits. Well, especially now, like nobody hires full-time. They hire you for 30. hours, because if I give them full-time, and they come out with these laws where they're like,

well, all full-time employees have to get health care and have to get a retirement program. Great. So I won't hire anybody full-time from now on. It will be people with 30 hours. And they're like, well, we didn't think about that. That's not right. Well, you should have thought about it. Like, what are you thinking?

No, they did something. And now the politicians can hold their thumb up and they can point to the camera and be like, we did this and bad or da-da-da-and-and-nothing and the other. They don't care. Right. They're bought by the 1% anyway. They're only doing what the 1% allows them to do. So the 6th, like you said, they're not going to get now.

Instead of getting that 30 hours, they're going to get 27, 26 hours. Until the automation comes in and then they don't get anything at all. And we got to let you go. Yeah. You know what I mean? And it's so, all right, so that's the downside to it. It's like, all right, I will say at least California is trying something. I don't think that was the best thing to do, but at least they're trying something.

hopefully they'll go in and fix it, massage it. Okay, let's make this a little better. Let's get some incentives, maybe some tax breaks to these people who own these businesses. You know what I mean? Like these franchise owners, let's try to do something, but we can make this a win-win for everybody, but I don't think that's going to happen. And it sucks, right? Going into a recession, you know what I mean?

Some say the recession has already been here. Like, you know, everyone's fludging numbers and this and that, and we're all relying upon housing. That's what's driving the economy. me and, you know, maybe two or three, what is it, like six companies that drives the stock market right now. That's the only reason the stock market is in, like, positive territory. There's so many things going on. People are so busy with their lives and on this rat wheel that they cannot, or hamster wheel, whatever you're going to call it, they don't have the time

to think stuff through. Right? And America's aren't even taught to think anymore. Like, we're not, what are we teaching our kids in school? To be quiet and sit still? They're not learning anything. My daughter's an eighth grader, right? And I was watching some of those YouTube videos where they go to college campuses and the college students can't name five countries on the planet they can't name large bodies or waters or whatever, right?

Is this the same conversation we had yesterday? I had this conversation yesterday. Right? Yeah, yeah, it's horrific. They don't know what continent they're on. They don't know what continent they're on. So I asked my daughter, Dave Greta, they'll say, hey, we've been working on this

for a couple years now. You know, now it's like, name three countries, name three states, name three cities. You can name the country you in. You can name the state that you're in. And we go through it. It's a mental exercise, and I'm constantly, all right, because I want to get to Bodies of Water, and then, you know, okay, what are you studying in history?

Okay, let's talk about that. You're talking about the Revolutionary War. Let's talk about that. Let's delve into this. You know, I'm retired, so I get to talk to my daughter every day. I'm not worried about my whole day because that's why my text was confusing. Like, so when are you free? I'm like, I drop my daughter off at this time.

I pick up at that time. The rest of the day is wide open for me. Right. Who can say that? Yeah, no. And you're exhausted. You work 40, 50 hours a week. You come home. You're exhausted. You don't want to, you know, you can't. Now I have to also, I also have to teach my child something that they should have learned in school. Yeah. So that's where we are as a society. I mean, it's not looking good. But, you know, okay, I'll give California, okay, bravo, you guys are trying something. But this isn't, this, I don't think this is the right way. And then, you know, then people want to talk about politics. You're always talking about, you know, what's going on in D.C. Man, you got to be talking about local politics. politics, bro. Trump or Biden, I'm not a Trump guy, just so people know I'm not a Trump guy. I'm a true American. I want you to vote for and support who you want to support.

I love that about America. I can't rock with that dude. But I'm not a Biden guy. People are like, oh, so Biden, like, I don't like that dude. That's why I'm pissed in America. Why did you give me two shitty choices? I got to sit here and choose between these two dudes. Come on, man. You couldn't put anybody else up. This is the best we got. You know, me? This is the best we got, bro. I'd rather see you in the White House, but what about his criminal. I don't care, bro. Let's get a dude's shot. You know what I mean? At least he knows numbers, man. Let's get a dude's shot, man. How many times do we get that in the, you know, you get the Matt Cox, 24, Matt Cox for president? Hey, bro.

There's a guy, Frank Amadeo that would be like, Amadeo Cox, 24. Bro, but my thing is, there's no way in hell that those are the two best choices. There's just no way. So we got to start locally. We got to make some changes. It's polarized. Everything's so polarized. Split right down the middle, bro. Split right down the middle. middle because people don't have the time to think. And moreover, people aren't taught to think. You know, going all the way back to, you know, Greeks and all that kind of stuff. What did they do? They thought, you know, I think, therefore I am. No one thinks anymore. Everyone is told

what to believe. You know what I mean? And when I had these conversations with folks, man, whether we're talking about race or military or the 1% because that's my thing, I talk about the 1%. Man, I'm trying to get in that gang. You know what I'm saying? Jump me in because I want to be in one, I want to be a one percent. I used to say, or I used to have a business partner named Dave Walker, and he used to say, I'm going to be a Republican. He was as soon as I can afford it. As soon as I can afford it. As soon as I can afford it, bro, I want to be a Republican. And as you get older and you start to do well, you tend to drift towards that, you know, more conservative, this and that. I mean, I'm not talking about the Trump or stuff,

but I'm just talking about the difference between liberal, like being a liberal, being conservative. There's, you know, I hate it when people just kind of go down a line, a party line on this or party line on that. People talk to me about stuff. I'm like, look, bro, I can name five things that Biden did good. I can name five things that he did bad. I can do that with Trump. I can do that with Obama.

I could do that with Bush. I can do that with Clinton. You know what I mean? It's not a total sum game with me. They all screw up, bro. They're human. They make mistakes. Obama could have did a whole lot more, but he didn't.

Why? He was thinking about the country. You know, Bush, W ran the country into the ground. Why? because you're listening to the people around him. He's more worried about what's going on overseas and everyone overlooked what the banks were doing. They locked you up for what you did,

but no one went to jail for the housing crisis, bro. No one? You all I mean? No one. Like one dude. Little people at the bottom went. Bro. And they're doing it again.

They're doing it in the car market. You know what I mean? They were predatory lending in that. There's a whole, like, you understand, the subprime loans are back. Yes. Like same thing, you know, they call them liar. loans or no dock loans.

Yeah, the ninja stuff and all that? They're back. They're back. Like right now I was talking to a guy, talked to a mortgage broker, and he was like, bro, he's like, no doc. We got no dock loans right now. He said, it's a little bit different than it used to be. And he means back in the early time value, a little bit different.

He said, but yeah, he said, you can, he said, we used to be able to get them for like 90%, 95% loans, LTV. He's going to have to put down, he's you'd have to put down 20%. He said, but you can get it with no doc now, nothing. Bro, explain. Somebody riddle me this. How is it that we know we've been printing money like crazy. We know the deficit is out of control.

We know this is a huge problem. We know that the commercial real estate sector is about to take a huge dump. We know this. We know that the hold out regional banks are about to go under. We know this. Yet, you know, with the interest rates high and housing still stable and high and going up, I don't understand how that works. I'm not in the field.

I don't know. Like I said, I'm just some silly guy who used to jump out of airplanes. but that math don't seem to math to me. If I want to buy this house, you know what I mean, it's $700,000 or whatever. There's no way in hell I could get financed that 7% if I'm making what the average American household is making, like right around $78,000 a year. You know what I mean? So, you know what I don't get it.

And, you know, I'm sure there's some 1% money or, you know, they're saying that it's investor money, you know what I mean, it's portfolio, like the big guys are, you know, Wall Street is buying up all these single family homes or whatever. but you would think that the politicians would do something about that but they can't why because they are owned by the 1% and the 1% like we make money on these don't touch it like you say these this housing stuff this predatory land is about to start again why because they're going to make some money on it i mean like i say man i don't know bro but um yeah i don't know but it's just one of those things man it blows my mind like what the hell is going on americans can't afford nothing

nothing bro uh uh you know buy now pay later on groceries these days we in trouble, man. People can't buy groceries. They got to pay for it later. Oh, we got a problem. So when do you think is all going to come crashing down or will it come crashing down? No, I think it's already slow. I think it's already, the signs are obviously already there. It's slowly happening. You know, what's really funny is that everybody thinks that, you know, Trump's going to get in the White House and be able to fix it. Like, there's no fixing it. Like, to me, if I was Trump, I'd be like, Honestly, I would not want to be president in the next four years.

Well, you don't want to get locked up. That's why he wanted to job. Because I think it's because I think that as the economy starts to drift down, like I think at some point it just kind of, you know, goes very, very quickly. But it's already had inventory is there's inventory is already gone up from being, you know, it was what, 30 days to 60 to 90 to, you know, now it's almost at, you know, six months to eight months now. There's tons of people, they're putting their houses up. They're dropping their houses by 20%, 30%, and they're not selling. And they're not selling them. So no one get a, no one can

get a finance. Well, it's a combination of things. So one, a lot of people aren't putting their house for sale because they have a 1 or 2% interest rate, right? Or 3%. Like you've got a very low interest rate. I can't like, I talked to a guy in California. He was like, he was like, look, I wanted like to move from California. He's like, I will never be able to live in the house that I'm living in again in my life. He said, based on my pay. so I'm staying. Just because I'm in this payment on a house that's worth a million or two million dollars. He's like, I'll never buy a two million dollar house. He's like, and I'll never be at the interest rate that I'm at right now. So he's like, I'll never be able to afford something like this

again. And he can't retire because he has to keep working because California's going to keep raising, you know, you know, taxes. So he's going to keep getting reassessed and paying more. Well, so I think I think that's one problem. I also think that obviously inflation has inflated the prices of the houses. So you think that your house is. is worth more, but your house isn't worth more, you know. And then so, and people aren't selling. There's inflation. So it's actually is collapsing as we speak, but inflation is keeping the numbers artificially high. So you think to yourself like, no, my house is worth $400,000. It's, no, no, it's not worth it. It's worth $400,000, but the dollar is it worth what it was. And your

house is actually collapsing right now. You don't know that. But the problem is at some point, just like now, they're already laying off people at Amazon. They're laying off people everywhere. and factories and, you know, making food and all these different companies that are slowly laying them off. What happens when those people can't get new jobs and they can't pay their payments and now their houses go into foreclosure? And these companies up the line can't buy these houses from them because they bought so many and they see that it's happening. Like it's slowly, it's not something that even the 2008 financial crisis. Okay, well, in 2008 was when they said, late 2008 was when they said, we're in a financial crisis. It started in 2007.

By late 2008, it was like, okay, we're definitely in a crisis. It was really 2009 when things were just the banks are going under, left, right, left. And that's what they're doing now. They're starting to go under. So I'd say in the next year or two, honestly, I'll be honest, I am absolutely in shock. It's lasted this long. Four years ago, I would have told you 18 months. I was sort of said that four years ago.

But did you ever see the big short? I did. Great movie. Remember the, I forget the guy's name where he was screaming. at like Golden Sacks and everybody. He was like, you guys are artificial, you're fudging the numbers. You're artificially inflating the market. You're inflating the numbers.

Like, because he knew, based on the numbers, like, why isn't everything in freefall right now? The numbers say it should be. But it went another, it took another year or so before they, they couldn't, they couldn't fake it anymore. And then it was just a straight dive. Yeah, and that's when I started doing that criminal stuff. They started fudging the book. So they were, okay, now I'm in the position to do.

this. It was that scene when the Michael Burr character was like, oh, you're calling me now because now you've gone and bought yourself some of, you know, some whatever they were selling. And now you're in a position that you can go ahead and properly price my instrument. Right. Basically, y'all just robbed me. Yeah. Of maybe billions.

Yeah. He has so many, bro. I mean, I'm just saying, and another thing I just want to say real quick, I'm sitting across the table from a guy who raised the zip code. You raised the price of the zip code? I'm like, bro, I've been to E-Bored City, man. I probably performed in one of your old homes.

It's a comedy spot in Ebor called The Gimmick. Never heard of it. Bro, but I bet you if you went down there like, oh, yeah, that was one of mine. What's amazing now is driving by looking at houses that I bought for $40,000, $50,000, that are selling, that are now on the market for $450,000. You're like, nothing. It's dark energy.

Like, what changed? It's dark energy, bro. It's like the science is like, like, what's this thing to hose up the universe? Oh, it's dark energy. It's dark matter. That's what's going on right now, bro. it's dark matter bro you know what's funny is so but there's another uh there's another movie about the housing crisis but it's from more of a macro point of view was it too big to fail too big to fail

what a great what a great movie um when they talked about the great depression when it was like it wasn't it was the lack of credit to cause a great thing yeah i always quote scenes from movies i'm a guy richie guy i know you're a tarantino guy but normally i'm always like i did my research normally I like quote movies My favorite lines from a bunch of Guy Ritchie movies He hasn't covered that He does all the gangster stuff But no, all right

Go ahead, I mean to cut you off No, no, I was gonna say that's like that's a nut That the big short Because I was saying in the big short Remember when they come to Florida And they meet the mortgage brokers They're like, yeah bro Like I basically

Like I focus on like strippers To be honest with you know Those three guy idiots that they were talking to Those I had 12 of those guys They were all just like that Complete morons And that scene was like, he was like, um, he was like, why are they, why are they confessing? Yeah, yeah.

Like, no, they're bragging. Yeah. That was, bro, you do a movie like that, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? Oh, it was a great scene, bro. Because it, listen, both those movies are just, God, they really tell the story. Like, they really explain from the, you know, because when, it's funny when people will, you know, every once in the comment section, I'll get these guys that are like, it's people like you that ruin this country.

It's like, bro, are you joking? I was the, I was one of the idiots who's, you know, at the very, I was like a foot soldier. It's the generals and the president. It's those top guys that were making the decision that were destroying everything. Like I, I'm a foot soldier. As the coppers and the godfathers, bro, I'm just, I'm just following orders. Yeah, yeah, I'm nobody compared to the trillions. You wouldn't even a plug, really?

Everything you did, you weren't even a plug. No, I wasn't. I wasn't. I was the dealer on the, I was the guy like, what you need. Right, you're on the block. You're cranking. Like, I'm not even the plug here. You know what's funny?

So I forget with how many trillions of dollars, the TARP. So do you remember when they were like, you know, we'll never see that money back? Do you know that like 90 something percent of that money was paid back? Yeah. Almost all of it was paid back. You know, remember they were like, we're going to be like, we're going to own these banks. We're going to be in the banking. And, you know, the company's going to, or the country's going to end up owning all the financial

banks. Like, this is chaos. never get this money back. We're destroying the American, you know, our future. 90% of that money was paid back. And that shows you how money moves, bro. It shows you, and you were in a business, and it shows you like, you're like, bro, I don't even understand what they did. You know what I mean? You're a smart guy. Like, you're like, bro. Oh, it's so complicated. That's really probably why these people didn't end up going to prison. It's so overly complicated. How can you explain it? Margin called. Did you see that movie?

I've seen Watch that one I've seen About half of that movie Watch that one Because the scene We're there in the boardroom And they were like

They're reading over Like who are you They're going over his resume Like so you're a literal Rocket Sciences Like yeah And that's the guy Just doing all this market stuff

No wonder nobody understands anything It's like bro A tranche The hell is that Yeah It's insane Yeah it's

I love the whole thing Where he's like You know Well and this is going to happen. It's, oh, no, it's already happened. Yeah. We just don't know yet.

We haven't seen the effects yet, but it's going, but look at the things that they did. They were selling out their own clients. They were, like, that is such a huge conflict of interest when you're allowed to trade your client's money for, for profit, you know, and you can bet against it. And it's like, and your only real concern at that point is not, I'm not doing what's right for my clients. I'm doing what's right for my business. Man, that shouldn't be, that shouldn't be legal.

It is illegal, right? I mean, if they catch you, they figure out what you did. It is illegal, isn't it? No. It's not illegal? No. Jesus. No, these huge firms that are, that there was, and I want to say the person that made that

legal, I hate to say this, but I was, I want to say it was, it was, somebody will correct me. I'm pretty sure it was George Bush that made it legal for the company, these major companies to start trading their clients' money for the, I forget how they put it, but basically it made it acceptable for this. them to start moving money and betting money and trading money for the profit of the company. So all that deregulation is probably one part of that apparatus were kind of maybe it was a law and they undid it. I think the Dodd-Frank Act, you know, wheeled it back. But the Dodd-Frank Act is also

being slowly dismantled over the last 10 years. That's what they do. We slow you down and you all break the rules down and we slow you down. I mean, we just, it's. I forget what the term is where They say they create a – they try and get something passed, and they say, well, we can't pass it. Okay. So then they create a crisis. And when people say, we have to fix it, they say, we can fix it. We have to pass this law to fix it. So you created a crisis in order to get a body of legislation through to fix the crisis.

But really, you created it. There was no crisis before you created it. Right, but we wanted to get this through. We wanted to be able to read your emails. It's like, bro, I'm the builder and the arsonist. Right. We need to jump up some business, burn the building down. And the insurance health man.

And the fireman. Right. But yeah, bro, it's, that's the world we're living in. And my thing is, I like to accept things as they are. I mean, yeah, that's messed up. But what can we do? How do we prepare ourselves? It's just like when I talk to young men about dating and all that kind of stuff, right?

They get so upset. Man, I can't believe there's, you know, women get all the choices and this and they only want tall guys and blah, blah, blah. I say, listen, bro. all I can do is explain to you the rules of the game. This is how the game is being played today. The rules might change tomorrow. But I'm telling you where it is right now. I'm going to give you the knowledge you do it at what you want.

If you want to sit here, go home, eat Cheetos, and cry about it. That's on you. Or you can go ahead and take this knowledge and get out here and get better. You know, I'm looking for the next opportunity. If they start doing the Ninja loans and all that kind of stuff and they start letting people buy, you know, property after property, man, I'm jumping on that. Not because I'm trying to get over, but because I can actually. afford a couple. Right. And I can just go ahead and hold on. You're not going to beat the government at the game that they've made their own rules. Man, the government could be Vegas. Can't

nobody beat Vegas but the government. So I don't want to mess with those guys. They're playing cars and they're looking at everybody's hand. And they're moving and betting accordingly. It is what it is, man. I can't get too mad. Because really, what can we do about it at this end? Right. We can vote people in, but that takes a couple, you know, you'd be looking at eight to 12 years before your people could get in there if they don't get bought out you know what I mean people talk if they can if they can change anything once they get in can you get the bills pass can you get the can you get the house you know and the Senate to vote on it do you have the vote do you have that well the president veto it I mean right it's so much you better just

if you know how the system works and you work work work the system like I just want this I think that even though all these other stuff is going on I would like to see two things I would like to see people work on family law, family court law, and I would like to see people work on prison reform. Right. It would be nice that we could just kind of work on those two things, right? Because we do want to rehabilitate people and stuff like that. But prison, man, especially like the tough prisons, but I'm glad to your school, bro. All you doing is, I knew guys that got locked up is when we're kids. Came back. I was going to say, you'd be better off just executing people because you're turning these guys into monsters. Monsters, bro. They'll go in kind of a kid with a chip

on his shoulder and they'll come out an absolute monster he's not working i'm sorry that guy's not working at walmart he ain't never doing that he's never going to do he's just going to go out and he's going to be an absolute monster be a beast right you know and he's plugged in now not just everybody in his in his town plugged in with everyone the region who everyone he was in prison with right and that's that's the whole region so i'm going i get locked up in Cincinnati i wind up going all right i'll go up state or whatever but i'm sitting down with guys from new york from philly from miami from Atlanta you know me i might be some guys in there from kansas city when I get out. They're like, yo, holl at me.

Right. I mean, it's just like, what am I going to do? I'm going to go straight and narrow or this guy trying to get me $50,000, man, just to move this bag from point A to point B. I can't get a job. I got my kids need stuff. You know what I'm looking at my situation. Like, bro, you know what? It might be worth it. It would be better if they took the drug, any drug offenses and just let those guys out or gave them a much, much lighter sentence, forced them to go through a drug, uh, program in prison and took all that money, you can keep half of it, take the other half, and just put it into free drug rehabs throughout the country.

I would legalize drugs, man. I would legalize drugs. Well, no, I would also legalize drugs. And I would legalize more than marijuana, like everything. Yeah, because I, and it's, it's horrific, but, you know, the truth is it would weed out the true junkies and give them an opportunity to clean up. And if they don't want to, then they don't have to, and they don't have to rob me to get to get their drugs.

And if they're functional, if they're functional addict, then you can be a functional attic. Like, my dad was a functional addict, you know, and I've known lots of functional addicts. Like, they're going to be, they're going to be, they're going to be laborers. They're going to be picking, you know, picking tomatoes and working in the field, and it's going to be horrific, but they can, they can do that and function as an attic. And they're not, they don't have to rob you because the drugs are so cheap. Right. You know? I would, I would, I would, and if they want to get clean, they have somewhere to go to get clean for free. And that's the point. I was going to make, I'm with you on that, legalize everything. I don't care what it is.

Legalize it. You want to go get you some drugs. You go down to the federal drugstore on the corner. It's all regulated by it. You go and get whatever potency you want. Whatever it is you want, you ain't going to die from it. Like you said, you ain't got to rob for it. Let's say you do go out and rob and try to, you know, rob for you get caught.

The police aren't wasting their resources going after drug dealers. All they got to do is go out for the user. And if you catch somebody, you've got to do time. Now you're going to jail, which is basically rehab. Right. You're doing your time and you're getting clean, and you got people in there so you're not worried about all this craziness. and they can educate you and help you, whatever.

So when you come back out, maybe you don't, you know what I mean? You don't fall down that trap again? But if you do, same thing. So who's going in and out of the system is these people who need to help these drugs? But I was going to say, but even that, what you're saying, even if it's a revolving door, it's for a select few. Right.

It wouldn't be the massive amount of people that are incarcerated right now. Right. I mean, because when you were locked up, bro, and the real criminals, like the hitters, the hard, I mean, how many guys are like real hardened murderers? like hitters. How many dudes in there were like that? Just making up a percentage. That may be 10%, 20 at the moment, 20 and 20 like, okay, more like 10 to 15%. Max.

Yeah, because, you know, and I would say it's even that high because they don't have an option. Like they're going to get out and they're going to go right back to what they're doing because they don't have, there's no alternative. Listen, I taught the real estate class, and I didn't teach these guys, hey, you can become a mortgage broker, you can become a real estate agent. I didn't say any of that. Like, some of them could, you know, if they were, if it was just drugs or something, they can get out. I know tons of guys that had drug charges, did five years, 10 years, got out, became a real estate agent or became a mortgage broker. That's very possible.

As long as you don't have 20 years worth of in and out, in and out. And no, banking crimes, probably. Yeah, oh, no, no. If it's a, those are, that would be considered an act of moral turpitude, where you actually took advantage of someone financially. Okay. So, like, I couldn't get it. But I do know someone who went to prison on a wire fraud, went to prison, got out, is now a real estate agent.

So that can be done. That's very possible. But then again, it was only one charge, but she also went to prison. So it's not like it was probation. You went to prison. So that's very possible. I would say that that class that I, that class that I, I taught in prison was I never didn't have not only a full roster. It was the most popular class,

and I taught it for 10 years because all of these guys wanted to figure out how they could get out of prison and do something to make money legally. They'd never, most of them had never had jobs. So these guys are like, how can I, like, I didn't say you can be a broker or I'm not going to, I told them how it's possible, but what you can do is you can flip, properties. And then I explained to them how to find the properties, how to, how to find the hard money investors, how to, what the ratio was, whether it was going to be a good deal, you know, everything from carrying costs to the whole nine. The whole nine. So I went through that whole thing, even, even credit, how to leverage your credit in order to, to, you know, if you don't

have the money, but you have a good credit, then you can go get a personal loan and use that personal loan. For the down? No, no, not for the down. No, because you don't even need the down. If you're doing a, if it's a rehab, you just need the hard money guy. give you all the money, especially if you have the money to put in the property. Like, hey, I got 30 grand to do renovations. I just need you get the property. So he'll give you the 65% of the aftermarket value or after rehab value. So if it's, if it's going to be able to be sold for $100,000, he'll give you $65,000 and you're buying the property for $40. Right. So he'll give you $65 and he'll escrow that money, but he won't give you the money to do the rehab. You have to put

your money up at first to get this guy to do the drywall. Then he'll release the money. They'll usually release it three times. Yeah, yeah, I got a buddy man who did that. And then he was telling me it was done in stages. Stages. Yeah. Typically three. Now, they'll go, they'll come out. Most of them will, they'll be like, I'll come out 10 times, but you get, and they're all different, by the way, but something they're like, but you get three times for me to come out for free. You want me to come out after that? It's 200 bucks every time I come out. So it's like, use your head. Yeah, you know. Be smart. Yeah, I'll come out every week. Because I get $200 for driving out, cutting you a check, driving it. It's an hour out of my day. You know, and it's at my display. And it's at my display. And it's at

my disposal. I mean, at my discretion when I can meet you. I meet you when it's convenient for me. I have the money. He with the gold makes rules. But I would explain all of this over the course of 10 weeks. Let me tell you, there were guys that sat in that class three, four times. Literally like, I'm going to get this. Not just that. There was this one guy that I would turn on when I was explaining alternative financing. And there was this one guy. And I remember I turned around. I said, okay, I said, this is a subject to purchase. And I explained what subject to purchase was, went through the whole thing. I said, okay, I said, now you could also get them to finance it even if they already have a mortgage. And I explained the whole system. And I said,

this is called a, I go, shoot. And the guy in the back of the room, he goes, wrap around mortgage. And I go, that's right, wrap around mortgage. I mean, he wouldn't do that once. This is like every other class. He could teach the class. He could teach class. He was so, by the way, he also got out of, got out of prison, sold his mother's house. She had died. His brother had been trying to sell it for six months. He got out, called me on the phone one time to ask me one question, sold that, and actually sent me money in prison. It's like 50 bucks, but the truth is he didn't owe me $50. You know what I'm saying? Like the fact that he sent me $50. That's low. He goes $50 for you, bro. Right. And $50, by the way, 50 bucks in prison is like, you just sent me

$500. For real. So, but I mean, he knew, like, I don't know what he's doing to this. They called him tax. I remember they called him tax, too. Older black guy, probably in his late 50s. God, he'd been locked up for like 15 or 20 years, bro. But listen, I wonder. Because think about it. In that house that they sold, he sold it for 50 grand. His brother was trying to sell to somebody for 20 grand, 25 grand.

And the guy, they couldn't figure out how to get clean title. I explained to him, all you got to do is this and this and this. Go to the title company telling this. You're going to get clean title. Boom, they sold it for 50 grand. Put a sign in the front yard. For months, his brother couldn't even go to Home Depot and get the sign. That's not to be.

You know, Texas is a millionaire right now. You know that right. Oh, I bet you Texas is doing well. I mean, I hope he's still. Legally, I bet you he's like set up good. I hope, listen, what a great guy. And knew and sat through the class over and every book I suggested he read, he read. You know, look, there's nothing new in real estate.

It's the same basic concept over and over. It's subtly packaged a little bit different, but it's all pretty much the same shit. Just a variant on the play, maybe. Exactly. Like Fresh and Fitmanic 1.5, 1.6 million subs. You know, I mean, they're tied into it. I mean, I was in the studio with those guys hanging out. I met Andrew Tate.

Like, Tate came in before all the drama. Right. Cool dude, bro. Right. Cool, great conversation. Man, real mellow dude. You know what you could tell he's a real, he's been through some shit, you know what I mean, real good. But then cameras go on action and he, you know, everyone gets in character a little bit.

Yeah. So when people say, man, he's dissing that. I'm like, bro, you ain't never met him. Like, I was in the room with the dude. I'm just trying to let you know. He's not a, he's not a scumbag. Yeah. You know what I mean?

No, I, you know, it's funny because we've mentioned him before. Well, let me tell you controversial. Like, if you mention him at all, you're going to get either hate or people agreeing with you, just one or the other. And it's like, and I've said like, look, I believe like 80 to 85 percent, I may have said 90 percent of what he's saying. Like, I'm good with it. You know, there's 10 percent where it's like, you know, I mean, I'm a big believer in

monogamy, you know, with one woman, you know, like that's like, like, this is your wife. This is that like, oh, I don't care if I can afford five wives, you know, oh, you should be able to do this. You should. Okay. Well, I disagree with that. But I agree with these parts of, you know, like pull yourself up by your bootstrap.

Be a man. Work out. You know, improve. If women aren't paying attention, you know, to you, it's not them. It's you. Yep. Improve yourself. Yep.

You know, be the person that they want to be. If that's what you're going for, then do that. But don't sit back and play video games and complain about the fucking world because the world don't give a fuck about you. They don't get, bro. You know what I'm saying? And we all do. Like, people talk about stuff, man.

like, you know, bad guys are good guys. I'm like, what's a bad guy? What's a good guy? I said, I did America's business. I was a paratrooper in the United States on me, bro. We did some shit. Right. You know what I mean?

So who's the bad guy, who's a good guy? Depends on what clear uniform is. It depends on what hemispheres of you. I was going to say, there are horrific things have been done in that, you know, to further your agenda, which you believe is right, you know, because you're in power and because that's your belief, that's something like this, you never know. But I did clearly break the law. But I'm saying, like, you know, let's face it, five years ago.

I'm in a fucking, I'm in a halfway house with 400 bucks. You know what I'm saying? Like, you can't, like, don't sit here and tell me. You can work your way out of that shit, bro. No place to go. No place, nobody to help me. So, you know, to sit there and say, you know, how the world's got you down. Are you fucking serious, bro?

Hey, bro. You know what I'm saying? Come on. I tell you like this, man. At least you broke the law. And you're like, yeah, I broke the law. My brother had to sit down for five years. He didn't do shit.

He was just with the wrong people. And people like, that never happens. I'm like, it does happen. Oh, that's bullshit. You know what happens more than anything? And nobody says anything because what they typically do, were you...

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Really? So I brought a, I had a gun, and I brought a gun to a fucking $10 crack sale, and I should be locked up for 25 years. Didn't use the gun. Maybe the gun wasn't even there. Maybe the gun was actually in my house, but they said, hey, you were using that gun to protect your gun trade. When you arrested me, did I have the gun?

No, but you've had. had it before. You don't know that. Well, go to trial then, get life. Or you can take 25 or 15. It's like, I was selling Coke. And I've got to do 25 years because I've been arrested one time for getting into a fight. And because I have two previous sale, you know, drug sales or whatever the criteria is for. Sometimes it's one drug sale and a gun and a violence charge. And I had a gun. So I hit a mandatory minimum of 15 or 25 or 30 years. It's like, that is. so overwhelmingly unfair. And then you're going to send me to prison. You're going to do nothing to fucking help me rehabilitate myself. Get out. I'm going to now reaffend because let me tell you

something. Every time I've started to look at my bank balance and I'm thinking, fuck, I may not have enough next month to pay my bills. You know the first thing I think of? My first thought is fraud. Yeah. Because you know what's going to work. I can get this. Right. And it's the same thing with a drug dealer. I can go talk to so-and-so. I can get this. Within a week, I can have all my fucking bills. And it's a risk, but I'm not hurting anybody. You're going to tell yourself whatever you want to tell yourself to justify it. But the bottom line is, is I can tell you from experience, being raised up a white guy, upper middle class with an education. My first thought, when things are bad, fraud. I would get this mind. Right. I don't think, you know what I don't

think? I'm going to have to get another job. I'm going to have to. And I don't have any responsibilities. I don't have two fucking kids. I don't have anything. What if you've got two kids and you're restrained by your ability to get a second job. Right. You can't. You're a felon. I'm telling these young guys, hey, the FAA is looking for air traffic controllers.

No experience necessary. You don't need college. They train you. They pay you for training this great career. Bro, you got a record. I can't, we can't do nothing with that. Right. And you're like, but I'm a good guy.

Made one mistake when I was 17. Hey, you fucked on me. I don't know what to tell you. Join the military. No, Army won't take you. Marine Corps won't take you. And like you said, even as a guy who was,

been away from the streets from a long time, but like you say, you look at something like, I need to get this bread. It's not even me on the street cranking. It's just me making a connect. Like me, set up this meeting between these two guys, and this dude going to give me a tip just because I put him on. You know what I mean? Listen, I know a guy who had no felony.

He's never been in truck. His name is Brandon. Huge guy. He's like six foot four white guy. As a docile, he was a bouncer at a club, but he's doss. It's cool. But he's a big guy. Gentle Giant. Right. And some chick comes up to him and says, do you know, she's like, look, do you, you know,

she was on oxies or something. He's like, and she's like, look, I'm in a bad way, I this, I that. And he's like, well, I don't deal drugs. I don't know anything. He's like, I don't know anybody with oxies. He said, but on, no, I don't know if he said, if he said he did or he said, I know somebody who sells heroin. Whatever it was, he said, I mean, I can give you a phone number. He's like, but I don't, like, I don't do that. But I mean, I know a guy. who I know does it and he she was like give me his number gave him the number gave her the number and two weeks later he gets arrested for uh for conspiracy or death she died the guy sold her heroin she died they grabbed him how'd she get to you this guy brandon at a club fucking sent her to me

never sent him anybody else doesn't know anything he said i actually thought i'm helping her she said i'm sick i feel horrible i need oxies he said well he sells heroin he may have oxies whatever that conversation was. He said, actually told myself I was doing the right thing. They charged me with her death or murder, whatever they call it. Probably manslaughter or something like that. No, no, this is federal. He got 25 years. He went to trial. What a fucking mistake. What did they offer him? Like 10, but that's what happens. They offer you three. You say, no, they give you 15, you know. I got a buddy Donovan. Same thing. I mean, he, I know so many guys that, so it's more the disparity in the sentencing, like what you deserve compared to what you actually got, that's where you're really,

if you say, oh, innocent people in jail, absolutely, but not because they didn't break the law. But what happened was, they stole a candy bar and you chopped their fucking hand off. Yeah, he did something. Right. He made a call thinking it's innocent or same thing. You know, you made a small drug sale and the next thing you know, you're getting 15 fucking years. Or worse, they said five years, you're saying, I don't feel like I deserve five years. I'm going to go to trial.

because when you caught me, I didn't have anything and you just got two people that said I said I was there. You don't really know that. I'm going to go to trial. Boom, you lose at trial. You get 15 years. I could tell you story after story. Not that that guy's innocent, but he really only deserved a few years, if not probation.

You said five. He said, fuck you. He went to trial. He gets 15. That's what bothers me. Meanwhile, real criminals are doing real bad shit. They can afford to get the lawyer team in there. They get the dream team in there. Maybe they be the case, maybe just whatever.

Then they go to a camp. Look at Elizabeth Holmes. She got 12 years, billions of dollars. I have a lost amount of $6 million. I got 26 years. 6 million, 26. I didn't have her team, though. I'm not a woman.

I didn't have her team. I didn't get to say I'm pregnant. I didn't get to say all the thing that I was abused by this man. You get to cry. I didn't get, I don't have that luxury. Oh, I cried. He said, I tried. I turned the water water world.

I cried. I cried my ass off. I had not tried. But, you know, but that didn't work. Not with the, not with the judge. That's what's up. You want to do, um, you want to talk about Puffy? For sure, like bringing up to speed on that, let you know what that is and you're just going to let it go from where. Yeah, but I mean, I think first we talk about a little bit about, um, you know, just what you've already kind of gone over. Like, you know, who you are. How you know, you're, you're in, you know, you're in, you're in, you're in Tampa. What's you're, you're doing the podcast. But let's start with like, you know, so I was born here, you know, in this, you know, whatever, you know, you know, the area you were born in. you know, mom, dad, you know, everybody around me is getting in trouble, you know,

kind of move through that and then we can get to that point where, like, you're on a podcast and we'll just kind of get into the whole, yeah, you can explain the whole. It's like I've heard these names and stuff, but let's face it, I listen to country music. I ain't mind that you, bro. I ain't mind that you, bro. I ain't mad at all, you know what I'm saying? And it's, I love having these conversations because we forget the world is getting smaller, but these bubbles are just different dimensions

and we just, everyone's floating out this thing and, you know, you might know some shit about meth. Like, I don't know, nobody to fuck with meth, bro. Never, I ain't, that's just never been our thing. You know what I mean? My wife did five years for a meth conspiracy. What? But I know people this, you know, shit,

when it was that powder and that rock, you know what I mean? I came up in the 70s and 80s, you know what I mean? So. Well, imagine me being thrown at a federal prison where I was, it was a medium. I would say 70% of all the guys in the, medium were black guys 90% of them were there for drugs the rest were fraud because that's when they were all doing the um the tax scam yeah it was big yeah i mean i'm sure it's still big but not

like it was for a while um and then you know then it's then it's then it's then it's mexicans and very few whites there's my probably was 30 or 40 white guys so i get there and it's you know when i'm talking to these guys you know it's funny too Colby heard me say this the other day. I've probably said this 10 times to some people. But, you know, prior to going into that whole thing, being in prison with those guys, and I taught GED for like three years.

So prior to, so I really have a lot of interaction. But prior to going into that environment, I would have said, you're a black guy, you're in jail, you deserved it, you had plenty of chances. You were, you know, and then, well, I was, you know, understand I was born in the projects. I was born here. Listen, some of those guys, the first time they've ever had a longer conversation more than five minutes with a white guy was with me.

Yeah. You know, or somebody that was successful that wasn't a success, somebody who was successful that wasn't selling drugs. Because everybody they know in their neighborhood that is successful is selling drugs. They don't have a father. So nobody's, their mom's working two jobs. They're at home. All the males that have money and girls are selling drugs. they have no positive influences

And so, you know, they start selling drugs And then the worst thing is if they're good at it Because now, oh great, you're good at it So you're not stupid and you don't get caught right away You get big enough to get yourself a federal fucking charge And do 15 years off the rip And you're like, you're like the fuck happened Like so-and-so got arrested 10 times he's been in and out

Yeah, but he's selling little bits and pieces And gets busted for a little piece You fucking were selling bricks You're a plug, right? Yeah, you moved up Well, that's how you make more money Right, right, and that's how you get more time. And now you're done. There's a rapper.

There's a rap group's called Underground Kings, UGK. One of the rappers' name is Pimsy. Pimsy is dead. He overdosed on that lien or whatever it was, died in Hollywood years and years ago. But he has a bar aligned, and it goes something like this. Like, if I told you cocaine numbers, you would think I was lying. Young Brothers on the, Young Brothers 22 talking about their retirement. And people like, what does that mean?

I'm like, you have no idea how much money. is in the cocaine business. Like, and if I told you what the money looked like, you wouldn't believe me. Right. And really, I'm like, bro, I can go from literally, like smart guys you're talking about can go from getting fronting

maybe a 50 pack, $50 worth. And within the year, he'd be sitting on $2 million. And if he break it all the way down to work and smart, you know, spend none of it, do whatever, and roll over money and everything. It was like, there's no way you can do that. I'm like, yeah, man. And that was when I was, that was back in the 80s,

90s. Like today, they could probably do that in six months if they do it right. You know, you can work your way out from being fronting, you know, $50 worth it, though, getting out there coming back, getting yourself up to, you know what I mean, maybe an ounce or two, getting yourself up to a quarter, to a half, to a bang. My wife talks about how, and then we'll start, I was going to say, she literally, you know, she was selling meth, obviously, to support her habit and her kids. And she talks about how one time she's like I was at a gas station and looked up and she's there's this Mexican guy there this is in Okeechobe you know where the Lake Okachovia and where she grew up and she kind of looks

looks up and he looks at her and she said I hadn't seen this guy in six months and she said he used to buy from me and he goes hey you are you still in that in the business you were in and she's like yeah he goes I want to introduce you somebody and he goes she goes okay he goes and he said like meet me here whatever so they meet on the side of the road she said it's another Mexican who's, she goes, he said, his cousin. She goes, I found out later, like, he just got out of prison. And she said, he works with the cartel. And he walks over and he goes, hey, and he goes to the back trunk and pulls back

back like a sheet or something. And she said, there's like a half of a key and a meth. And she said, he goes, just showed it for a minute. And he goes, do you think you can get rid of that? And she goes, I mean, I can try. I don't know how quick it, but I can try. And he goes, okay. He said, I'm going to front you this.

Just gave it to her. Half. Yeah. And she said, she said, I keep in mind. She said, I've got people that I'm selling to and I've got people I give it. And some people I sell to that they sell to that, you know, they're just distributing. She's like, but at that point, now all I'm doing is distributing. She says, and these people are now taking large chunks.

She said, so I got, in two weeks, she's like, it's gone. And she's already going back for the, she's, so I have the money. I get the second half. So she's very quickly, like, who do you trust with something like that? That's kind of, the amount of money you just gave this person, the amount of money she could make that quickly, and she's not in a position where she should have that kind of money going through her hands. But if you're responsible and you're smart, you can turn that into a lot of money. The problem is, once again, next thing you know, you're looking at 10, 15, 20 years.

You don't realize it. Somebody going to do something stupid. They ain't going to point right to you. Got it from her. What you need me to sign officer? Yeah, I'm signing it. Oh, yeah. Now, you can do that time. I'm sorry. I live by that, bro, man. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time you come at me with some i'm like bro i'm sorry bro i don't i don't want to help you sell them cookies bro no i tell you i don't know this i don't know who made them cookies man i ain't got nothing to girls scouts but i don't know who made them cookies bro um so i don't the microphone right like you're using a regular mic right so you want to basically be within this right there and you're so while we're talking i'm doing that but we'll do the show yeah i'll

make sure i stay on point also if you want there's a if you want to you can lock the chair. There's a, you got to push it in. So you don't rock back. It's up to you. I mean, obviously. We're good. I'm definitely going to, um, I better know what I'm doing. I talk to the microphones every day. I know, but I mean, I also do the, the laptop thing. You know what I do. You can just talk. You know, I have to have the microphone because it's, they're so good. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, because I use a, I'll use a mic and I have the headphones because I'm, you know, stream, you know, I'm looking at stuff. Yeah. So I didn't, I've only done it

once when I don't have the mic. Okay. It's just, I like, I like having a mic in front of me. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think it sounds better. What are we doing? We're good. We're good. Okay, so. I should have filmed all that. Did you film all that?

Oh, yeah. And I'll probably put that in the back. Yeah. That's some good, that's some good conversation. Everybody's going to be doing like, who was D.L. And I thought it was a nice guy air traffic controller. He's talking about bricks? What's going on?

Yeah, no, I got probably a couple TikToks from that. And then that will probably just be at the end of the interview. That's what's up, man. And I'm a stand-up comedian, just so you guys know. I got an air truck controller by day or stand-up comedian by night. Now that I'm retired, it's like I'm just, you know, going hard with the stand-up thing and, you know, just having fun with it. Okay.

Where do you, where do you? Side splitters, you know, the improv is down to Funny Bone. You know, the Improv used to be in Ebor City now is the Funny Bone. Oh, okay. Still the same location, just switched over, whatever. And I do a lot of promoting our own shows. So we do every Tuesday, this place called Status in Tampa. I'm looking for different venues.

You know, we're just working on. making Tampa more viable for comedy. Right. That's a whole other. We have to come back and talk about comedy. That's like a zone two hours, what the comedy world is like, because you could go to the funny bone

and side spitters right now and say, hey, I've been doing comedy for six months, and they'll book you. You have 200,000 plus subscribers on this. You got it on that. I've been doing comedy for 20 years. They won't even let me open for you. Do you know who Kill Tony is?

Yeah. Tony Hinchcliff. Yeah. So I went to, because I didn't know who it was. I know even person. I knew that's when I was, I started in L.A. So Tony was one of the guys that was coming up when I was coming up. I went on, I was, went to L.A., this was like four years ago, went to L.A.,

and I was doing a couple, a few different podcasts. And so my booking agent was like, hey, man, I got you on Kill Tony. I'm like, oh, okay, what's that? I'm thinking it's podcast. And I go, well, what's that? He goes, it's a podcast. And I said, okay. He said, I said, oh, we're, and he goes, yeah, yeah, he's like telling me about it.

He said, yeah, he said, I said, okay, so what, I just show up? He said, well, yeah, but you need to prepare something. I said, what do you mean? He was, well, because you have to do like a minute of comedy. So you have to do a stand-up skit real quick. And is it for Kill Tony who does that? Yeah, and I went, what? And he goes, no, bro, he said, I said, no, I don't, no, I can't do that.

You have to talk to you. I can't do that. And he goes, no, no, no, you're funny. You're funny. I said, no, I said, that's not. I said, being funny in a conversation is vastly different than preparing something funny. No, no, just tell a funny story. I said, in a minute.

I said, my stories require set up to be funny, and it's one little laugh. I said, people expect a lot from you. I said, that's not, being funny isn't like you're a funny guy, you know, standing on the block with your buddies. I said, it's a vastly different thing. And I had like, I can't do it. I can't do it. And he's like, no, but you're fun. I'm like, I don't stop saying that.

Listen, I've never been so nervous. So what happened is at the last minute While he was trying to figure out when I had to be there I got the same day I had a A meeting with a producer And a director and just so happens that he's like Okay it's at 4 o'clock I was like I've never been so fucking thrilled him

I was like I can't do it at 4 Well that's the only time I said oh I'm so upset Gotta sit down I already it's a I already have the meeting It was scheduled two hours ago I'm sorry there's nothing can you see if you can change it No that was the only time they could do it. Listen, I've never been so thrilled to be able to miss something in my life.

That's crazy. It's hell. One minute to do stand up is a setup in itself. One minute. It's a setup. Yeah. Even when I started at the comedy store, I started at the comedy store, doing their open mic, it's three minutes. Yeah. You know, nowadays, they give you five minutes. And there's been some variance now people pay to actually do it, which is, I think is bullshit, but it is what it is. But one minute, and then Tony and his crew shits on you. Right. That's what I've noticed, because when I was watching him, I was like, this guy had one minute. He got some chuckles. The crowd isn't worked up. They're not all worked up already. So you're supposed to come out and be hilarious. And then if you're even slightly not funny enough, these guys tear you apart. I was like, that's not going to. Thank God, I didn't do that. Yeah. Yes, you didn't want to do that. And they just, they kill dreams, bro. I mean, it is what it is,

man. I like it. I like it. Man, this is great. I love the college. It's like talking to you, bro. I'm like, we're supposed to do a show. We're going to mess around, do two hours and just talking shit. You know who, you know who show I did end up going on? A podcast? Brothers in cursive. I don't know if I know these dudes. I don't recognize those guys. The one guy with the red beard.

Listen, it was, well, this guy's been at the comedy club a bunch of times. He's been on Danny's podcast. He's been on the comedy club. Both of these guys are. The guy who was running it was, um, They called him like Red Beard or Red something. I don't know. He used to work with Joe Rogan.

I think he was one of the guys that started. One of the Rogan dudes. Yeah. Rogan has a lot of guys, man. Joe Rogger's a real deal. He was a good guy. He loves comedy. You know what I mean?

I was out there when he was doing the TV shows when they were eating bugs and shit, whatever that TV show was. Fear factor. And he would come to the store and whatever and just be like, I can't believe these people are doing. I can't believe. He's like, I cannot believe these people are actually doing this shit. And he, you know, he did good on that.

And he had some drama with the comedy store with Carlos Mancilla. That's when I was coming up in comedy when Joe Rogan and had that fallout with Mancea because he called Mancey out for stealing jokes, which is a huge thing, still goes on to this day. And Mancea was bold about it, bro. He was like, I'm going to take your shit. He would tell you and then go up and do your shit right in front of you. Like, you were up next. Mancea is on stage doing your material.

And it's like, yo, it took me five years of developed that. I don't think you'd walk up. somebody just walk up and smash them. Well, that's Hollywood. You were out there. You know how the cool kids run that. You don't want to get blacklessy. You don't want to go, I would.

I didn't, because I was in their traffic show to take my joke. If you want to, we're going to sit down. You're going to pay me for that. And if you don't, something's going to happen. Yeah. Don't, don't clip that. You know what I mean? But most people ain't like that.

They ain't gangster like that. A couple of comics are. But they go after the people they perceived as weak is not going to do anything, right? Carlos Mensia was notorious for that. They called him Carlos Mastelia. That was his nickname, right? Dane Cook was notorious for that. Dane Cook would take the shit.

If you weren't careful, a lot of people didn't want to do their good stuff in front of Dane. I was a bunch of people that was just still jokes. And that sucks, bro. You know what I mean? It sucks. Like, one day we'll talk about it. I mean, the comedy game can be gangsters.

Cutthroat, you know, a lot of bullshit comes into that, man. Comes into that. Myron and Fresh were like the always in top five most super-chatted podcast on the planet. I think they're still up there, even though they're demonetized. I was going to say I'm shocked because some of their, the, some of the content I would think YouTube would shut that count. It's borderline Andrew Tate.

They ain't borderline Andrew Tate, I'm that they got, you know what I mean? Like, Tate launched from Fresh and Fit. Really, he did this, he went viral. It was like, what did he say, depression isn't real, and that just took off. It was a good conversation. I didn't know who Andrew Tate was, and it took me a long time to watch it. saw the thumbnail forever, and I finally watched it. I'm like, I'm like, you, I'm like, okay, I'm, I'm behind 80% of what this dude is saying, 85%.

But then some of this stuff is like, oh, man, I don't know about that in this past. But, yeah, I was going to say, but you know what's funny is that, but I can, I'll take, it's like going to church. I don't have to believe everything this dude's saying. No. I like this. I hear you here. Eh, I like that. I like that.

but what I don't do is say oh you you said this that's it I'm not talking to you I don't believe anything you're a lot you're a scumbag you're the you believe me are you liked me all the way up to here right so okay I disagree with you there and that's fine you can say that that's your opinion I mean I don't want you to date my daughter but you know other than that that's fine you know like I'm good with that so I'm the same way like I'm cool bro talk about who everyone to talk about on the liberal side on the conservative side i don't care i'm with you i'm not gonna just go off my inner fresh are always in trouble and i don't know if you guys have been following what's going on over there but they're in trouble again um just as revolving around a woman who says that one of the

guys got her pregnant and you know it's just she's doing this big thing and right away i'm like she's lying and um you could i could just tell like bro i don't think she's telling the truth and blah blah blah but hey my man did summer so i've been doing a lot of the biggest video i've ever done the biggest, it was last night. Right after Fresh and Fit did this stream, Myron did it, Fresh wasn't there, to debunk this woman and they went and got receipts from China. This one was like a Chinese national. And, bro, it was a great episode.

I'm like, Jesus, they cooked her. You know what I mean? Like, they cooked her. And I went on right after. And all of the Fresh and Fifth people who know me through them or whatever, they all came. Because I was trying to get my 150 subscribers back. I'm like, I'm down 150 subscribers. I'm going to get my 150 subscribers back.

bro I looked at the video as soon as I was done with it I think I did three hours or something like that I sat down for a second I looked at it and now mind you if I get 100 views on a video over a couple days I'm like oh man I'm doing a little something that's pretty cool I sat down it's like an hour I already had like 300 and something views on this this long form video I'm like yo and then I woke up this morning I think it was like six or 700 views I'm like oh I think I just I think I just did it I think that was the I think that was the one that's going to get the red pill guys I'm over here now

they put the face with the name like oh this is DL Saint this is the keep leading from the front guy they're there and I'm like okay let's see what happens moving forward so now I'm starting to get

I'm starting to get excited and I couldn't sleep I'm like up I got to make sure I don't oversleep you know what I mean so we're here with this and this is going to help as well but people

love to hate those guys yeah out of the 600 people who've watched the video probably 300 of them hate myering and fresh, but they can't help but watch it. And, you know, people come in and they say things. And I'm like, look, man, I hear you. I wouldn't do that. I think he was wrong. I told him he was wrong. It is what it is. But she's wrong, too. Right. So, I think, you know,

it's kind of like that also the problem with Andrew Tate is, is honestly, is, unfortunately, you know, delivery is everything. Like, you really have to be able to pack it. Like, He, like, you're saying the same thing that Jordan Belford, I'm sure, Belford, Jordan, Peterson, like you're saying, a lot of your stuff you're saying is the same thing as Jordan Peterson, but he's polished. He says it where he's not trying to be offensive. He, you know what I'm saying? So, and yet you'll say, like, um, not fresh and fit. Well, I mean, they may, but also I think, uh, that, um, Andrew Tate says the same thing, but he says it in a very abusive way. He's very brass about how he says it.

He's, you know, in your face. And as a result, you've got people that are like, they won't listen to him because the way he's saying it. Like, but if you just calm down a little bit and tried to be a little bit more understanding and got your message across, then you wouldn't have as much, you wouldn't have all this, God, all this stuff that's gone on. Hey, bro, like, you know, it is what it is. I'll say this, though, he's not running from it. You know, he sat down and did his time. Those women sat down and did their time that little bit when they had them mocked up. Now, all the women had to do those two girls is.

just say that, yeah, Andrew and his brother did this, they were going to let them go. Then when they sat there in a Romanian prison, they're like, nah, we ain't signing nothing. I'm like, bro, I would marry them women if I was the Tate's. You know what I mean? Like, they didn't turn. Wow. But like I said, I met him in real life. If he was sitting here right now, cameras are off, bro.

We were just sitting around talking. It would be a great conversation. It wouldn't be any of the boombastic stuff. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? He adjusts to the environment very well. And I will give him that. He's a cool guy.

Like, it's fun to be around. But at the same time, it's like, oh, that's a real one right there. Like, if it go down, you know, ain't no telling what he might do. You know what I like? I always love the, there was a conversation he was having with a guy, with somebody. And he said he was standing in line in London. Did you ever hear this? That was on fresh and fit.

With the chick. That was on fresh and fit. And she's like, aren't you going to say anything? He's like, shut up. Shut up. Shut up. And I totally, you know, having done 13 years in prison, like, I know there are the guys like you can look at him and be like and I know and having gone through it

I know there are some things that are just worth swallowing your pride because in the end you will it will be the ramifications are you are never going to break even on this it's going to go so bad so you know what suck it up swallow your pride and shut your fucking mouth because this is going to this could possibly go maybe it won't but if it does it's going to go so bad you're going to regret saying anything. And that's not cowardice. That's just being smart. And I liked that he said that. And the other thing was, I'm not alone. I have you here. I can't fight my way out of this. Right, right. So what's going to happen? What happens with, you know, like what happens if things go wrong and what happens to you? What if they pull weapons out and they start shooting people randomly? Like, for what? Because I don't

like what they're doing. Well, I don't like what they're doing. And it'll be over in three minutes and we'll be able to get our food and go on. Because they went to the front of line, stop it, baby. Now, we ain't doing that. You got a good. I left my pillow. I left my pillow. on the car, but, you know, wherever I go, I keep my, I keep my weapon on me. They're like, why? I'm like, because I'm in Florida, it's a right. Like, why wouldn't you have your weapon on you? And my background, like, where I'm from.

So, I'm always armed. And, you know, sometimes I'll be with women who know that I'm armed, and I had to stop telling women because, like, well, you get your gun? I'm like, listen, no. What are you talking about? So what do you want me to do? You want me to pull out this pistol and start shooting? What if I hit some answer people back there?

What if, what if they're not cutting the line? What if they order their head and they're supposed to go up? up there and get that. You know what? I don't know exactly what's happening here. Like, just because I got a pistol don't mean nothing, bro. Like, I'm sorry, man. No, no, I ain't doing, man, we're cool. Yeah, this is last resort. You know what's funny? I, when I took, because I had my concealed weapons permit. I was going to ask you, would they allow you to do that? No, no, not now. I was about to say, I'm like, bro. Price was just prior to prison. But one of the things that happened is, it's funny when you take that class, I remember, prior to that, I was like,

oh, I'm carrying everything, everywhere. And I remember he was going around the, the, the, the, the, room asking why do you want one why do you why you and and it's by the end of the same by the end of the class and a lot of them were like well sometimes I'll go to the movies and it's a it's in a bad neighborhood but it's close to my house I go and the people cars are getting broken into boom boom and he's like where's the closest movie theater other than that oh it's like it's like five more miles so it's like five more minutes away yeah he's like go to that one yeah like what are you doing you know and then he asked about a guy that was like oh I have a bunch of rental properties and I collect rent and it's a bad neighbor

Neighborhood, he said, don't ever bring your weapon to collect rent. Like, if that goes bad. They're going to take your weapon and shoot you with it. Yeah, even if you shoot them, I'm going to get money from you with my weapon. That can be intimidation, that you're, I'm not in danger. I'm not, you showed up at a place that you know it could do. So they start going through those things. And the more they talk, the more I thought, listen, prior to that, I was absolutely ready to

bring that thing everywhere. After that, I don't think I ever carried the gun on me, maybe once or twice. Yeah, I take it everywhere with me. I'm, but I'm trained. And it's, for me, it's... But you're not taking it to go to a bad neighborhood. You just have it on you just as a whole of thumb. I stay out of a bad neighborhood.

But exactly, that's what... By the end of that thing, I realized, like, it... He was like, don't go somewhere where you think you need a gun. He was saying what you're doing. Keep it on you. I'm not saying, don't keep it on you. I'm saying, don't ever say, think to yourself. I'm going to go here.

It'll be okay. I have my gun. He said, don't go. If you think you need your gun to go there, don't go. That's a rule of thumb. One of my buddies, we served together. He moved out here too from California. He's in Florida now.

And he's just the guy, the black guy who grew up in the nice neighborhoods. Grew up the way you're supposed to grow. Mom and dad in the house, you know what I mean? Star basketball player, the whole nine. He joined the Army, came to paratrooper and met me. And we talk about our different bubbles all the time. He's like, bro, you're from where you're from. And he's like, the way you see the world is completely different than the way I see the world.

I'm like, what are you talking about? He's like, you're always getting on me. You get mad at me when I go to the hood to get bar. because that's what a good food is. I'm like, yeah, but you're in the hood. You're riding around the hood and your BMW 8 series. What are you thinking? For some ribs?

Are you kidding me? Like, are you kidding me? You're a big dude, 6'4, black guy, you're riding around? Because what it was, he came over, and he told me the police stopped him or whatever, asked him some questions or whatever. He was getting his food or whatever. And like I said, we're always armed. He's the same way.

And he knows how to handle law enforcement. And he was like, look, the young cop was cool. It was an older cop, probably phasing out. He was like, I'm going to show you how this is done. And, you know, my guy handled the situation or whatever. But I'm like, I'm like, but had you gone to the rib shop over here in West Chase, the police wouldn't above, no issues. Right.

Why are you going over here in the hood to get some? And he's like, but he's like, that's what I mean. He was like, your background, your experience. He's like, I never experienced all that. I'm like, you don't want to experience it, bro. I've seen so many situations that popped out just because somebody was in the right place at the wrong time. And it's, and it got ugly.

And if you defend yourself, you might be in the wrong. Like you said, why you have a gun here? Why are you trying? Will you branching that firing on, whatever? You never know how it's going to play out. And I'm like, no, man, why? And let's say you are in the right and you defend, you stand your ground and you take someone's life in self-defense, right?

You got to live with that, bro. You got to live with that. Look at Wade. Wade shot a guy that attacked him in his own house with it, with a, had a concealed weapons permit, shot a guy in the house that attacked him. They arrested him. They tried to prosecute him. He's saying, Castlewall, he attacked me. I was in my house. I had this. It still took about two years before they finally dropped the charges. He had to go to jail for a couple of days. Here in Florida? No, this was in California sounded because that was what they're doing

Cali. No, this is in South Carolina where you think you get to shoot someone off there, walk across your yard, you'd think they'd be okay with it. But it was a new, it was a new detective, first time on homicide. She was trying to make him name for herself. I got this guy. The prosecutor was on board. Yeah, like the prosecutor was on board with this? But then when he, two years later, a new prosecutor came, looked at the case and was like, what are we doing? Don't know.

Yeah, threw it out. But he also spent $100,000 of his own money for lawyers and to have his own finance, or his own forensic people who to go through and create a, because he's like, because what they said was not what happened. Right. And what they said the scene showed is not what the scene showed. Like they were saying like, oh, nothing's been knocked over. there's no bruises on him there's no proof that there's there was a struggle he's like i got a bruise on my head

you can see the dent here stuff's knocked over here like completely too different you know they'll fucking skew it brother matthew what do you mean they'll skew it those are the good guys they wear it away it's you talking about the prosecution talking about the police i'm saying the majority of honestly the majority of the time the majority of time i think that cops are are prosecutors and cops I think, the majority of the time, are decent people. But let me tell you, you've heard the turn, you know, it takes, what, one drop of oil to kill 20,000 gallons, and that's it. And, you know, when it's funny, too, I heard this the other day.

And then we got to talk about ditty. Where the guy said, or it said, fuck, what was it? It said, if you have a hundred, a hundred, if you have a hundred, if you have a police force of a hundred and there's, and there's three bad cops and, you know, and every, there's three, there's three crooked cops and the rest of the police force, you know, gets rid of them, right? They, they, they, they fire them and get rid of them. They said, you had three bad cops. They said, If there's 100 people in the police force and there's three bad cops and the other cops do nothing, you have 100 bad cops. Yep. And that's a problem because good cops don't want to say anything about bad cops. Now, the guy that the way it was written, it was more eloquent than I just said it. But when you heard it, it was like, whoa.

Like the way they said it, I was like, wow. Like that's, obviously I thought that anyway. But the way he put it, I was like, that's a great fucking, the way that was a great way he said. That's not new to us, bro. We just know that. And, you know, people like, oh, you know, your companies, well, because you're black. I'm like, nah, I think it's more because of where we are financially. You know what I mean?

What's going on in the hood is the same as the barrios. The same is the trailer part when it comes to law enforcement, bro. It's us and them. That's how police look at it. So if you do have these heavy-handed bad cops, they can spoil the whole bunch. But now they got cameras. And you see these guys are jumping ship left and right. So I think there's an opportunity for law enforcement in America to get better.

But until they start paying cops, paying law enforcement, at least $100,000 a year and having a real training, like serious training and ongoing recurrency training, you know, law enforcement should be at a minimum the level of Army or Marine Corps Army basic training. Not Navy, not Air Force, but Marine Corps Army

basic training. Law enforcement should have at least that minimum amount of training and standards. Until we reached that point, We're going to always have problems with law enforcement. You got some kid out here who's making $20 an hour, you get him a badge in the gun, bro, and he ain't ever been punched in his mouth before and you put him in the hood.

That's never going to end well. It's never going to end well, bro. And it's nothing to do with races. It's all about him just being poorly trained and putting a terrible situation. The guy with the acorn falling on a cop car and they empty their weapons into the police car. Have you seen this?

Yeah, I heard something about it. I didn't see it, you know. That guy should never be allowed to be a police officer. but they let him quit. They didn't fire him and he can go to another PD somewhere and he can get hired and then get trained or whatever

and still be on the force. That should never happen. There's so many things they need to do because I talk about law enforcement. People like, man, you probably just hate cops because of your background. I understood the game when we was coming up. The police understood the game.

There was an understanding. Right, but there was some bad cops. Everybody got a bad cop, a legendary bad cop. And Cincinnati was a dude called Robocop. I hope you're dead Robocop. That's how bad this dude was, the worst or the worst.

Not like your guy who was like to go to bad cops in New York. He had to be an absolute horror. I'm going to go back and find that episode and watch it. But everyone has some cop that they grew up with and they knew it was the bad dude. He wanted to knock heads or whatever. The guy is going to plant evidence. The guy that is going to set you up. And the thing that got me is the prosecution would go right along with these dudes.

And they know that they're bad. And they're putting people away for crimes that they know they didn't commit. One of my biggest problems with Kamala Harris. People are like, you know, a lot of folks don't like Kamala Harris. most people don't have a reason. They're like, so why don't you like Kamala Harris? She was the prosecutor. I don't like prosecutors, bro.

I'm just keeping it in 100. I just don't like prosecutors. I'm pretty sure you have your views, but I don't like prosecutors. You know, I mean, just what they do and the political side to it and all that. And when Kamala Harris initiated that law that would target parents,

they would lock parents up if their kids didn't go to school. Who is that going to affect? Is that going to affect the people in the Beverly Hills, bail air and all the nice neighborhoods hell no that's gonna affect the people in the hood the people at the bottom

so you go to work for 18 hours you think little belly or little Susie went to school and they didn't and now the police can lock you up for that and you know if they take you in the custody

on a Friday when you're getting out yeah right lucky Monday you're lucky on Monday right and it's like bro you're missing three you're missing that work

you're working through the weekend you're missing that work you get fired now you can't pay your rent. You can't pay your bills. You can't pay this. You can't pay that. All because Kamala Harris wanted to make a political statement. We're tough on education and a kid still can't name what country they live in. Come on, man. Like, I don't like that. That's why I don't like Kamala Harris. You know, I think she's a nice person. I've seen her interviews on Breakfast Club,

and she seemed real cool. She was at Freak Nick. I was at Freak Nick. Hell, me and Kamala might did some. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? But the whole point is this. You can't do that in her society and think no one's going to come talk to you about it later. You know what mean? Hillary Clinton called me and the people my generation's super predators. And now mad, she got mad later on when the super predators who were all grown up now was like, hey man, go F yourself. You called us super predators. You tried to lock us up forever. Biden did it. You know what I mean? With the, you know, got hard on crime and all that. Yeah, it was the black community saying that they want something done, but it was the Clintons and was Biden who made it happen. And who paid for it.

Clinton built more prisons than any president in history. System of the Down, boy, they're trying to build a prison. You ever heard that song? System of the Down? You ever heard that song, System of the Down? Look it up. They're trying to build a prison. And there's like the hook goes.

They're trying to build a prison for you and me. You know what I mean? He talks about like the prison industrial complex or whatever. Listen to that song. System of the Down is a rock and roll band, heavy metal band. Out of California, their Armenian descent, you know, American. But Armenian Americans, there's three guys or four guys. man, they go crazy, man.

You've heard their songs before. I've heard this and down. I know who that is. They're trying to build a prison, bro. What was that? A click? Oh. I heard that a couple times.

I thought it was the camera shutting off. No, I do need to start him back up. Oh, I thought we was going. That's what we was going. Did you get that? I'll probably put all that. If I split in two, I'll put all that in the... Yeah, we could go for a whole two, man.

Just, we need to go to 2 o'clock or 2.30 or what do we need to do? We're just going to cool. We can get it. I remember Ray, we can talk about it. can explain to just you know explain to just you know explain to God all these people um

um um let me just hold no no um I love when people talk to themselves

they're doing shit like bro we see you you sound crazy as hell right now I'm doing a podcast right now but do not bring those home exclamation point yeah What do you got? No furniture, comma, no dogs, comma, no pets, comma, no lizards, nothing.

Do not bring anything home, period, including pizza and ice cream, period. I got to go, period. Yeah, she's just, you know what I'm dealing with it. I'm lucky. I'm amazed that I haven't gotten a fucking dog in this whole time. Just sit want the dog so bad, huh? This year, you just ain't seen it. She's got it hidden somewhere.

Listen, the moment we get. get a place. I know she's going to come home with a dog. I can't, I mean, you know how it's going to look. It's beautiful, right? Look, I mean, it's just so beautiful. Well, it's because, but I'm the one who's going to have to take care of the dog because she's gone. So I have a little dog here. You could just put them in the garage when you're, no, then, bro, bro, bro, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, bra, blah, brop, all that. Like, what is that what is that noise? Cut. You got to go out here and find a dog. So, so we're, we're here. We're talking about what I know, what I know,

or who I know as P. Diddy. Sean Combs. Oh, okay. That's the government name. Sean Combs. Sean P. Diddy Combs. I would be in prison with guys, and I'd be like, you know, hey, Williams. They'd be like, Dan, Cox, don't be calling by my government name.

Man. You know I'm Tex? These guys, and I would try to, you're funny, too, because I try to be cool, right? Like, I get to know guys, and I walk by. They go, yo, Cox, what's up? I go, I can't call it. They go, stop, stop, stop. don't don't don't try i know you're i know you no it was natural it felt he's like as it felt

naturally is i know it's you sound even more white when you try and sound black like don't you know or do you remember the term off the muscle no you don't remember off the muscle that's that's in-house term right there man enlighten me right me it's like saying you know i said shit i did that off the muscle you know that means like like just you know off the cuff Like, off the cuff. Yeah. And, you know, there was like, Cox, Cox, I don't, don't, don't, don't, I know you're trying and I, I know you're trying to connect.

Off the muscle? Where were you sitting down there, down here when you were in Florida? This was in Coleman when I first got that. That was a saying for a while. That's got to be a thing. I must be a Florida thing, bro. You know, everybody got down a little slang, off the muscle. All right.

Listen, I, yeah, it was, I never. And I never got a cool prison nickname. You just Cox? That's cool enough. Just Cox. I tried to push a chainsaw. and I've mentioned this at a few times. That's the white boy coming out here right there.

Call me chainsaw! Yeah, call me, yeah, I was like, you know what's so funny? It's like when I literally went from like the medium prison to the low, and guys like, yo, what do they call you? I go, chainsaw, they bet. No, they don't. Listen, nobody calls you chainsaw, man. Look at you.

You're as soft as cotton. You ain't chainsaw. Come on, man, stop. But I go, they go, you, chainsaw for someone who's dangerous. I go, shit, ask Bank of America if I'm dangerous. They'd be like, what? Like, they're like, Bank of America. Motherfuck, what's you here for?

And they hear the story. They're like, all right, all right, all right. I'm here for bank fraud. And they'd be bank. Oh, damn. You should have said, they call me C. Buggy. You should have tried to do that one. They call me C.

There's a guy they called 21. They called him a 21. And you got 21. Why do they call you 21? Because the 21 bodies on my case. You're going to be 22. You keep that. All right, stop.

Enough with that. I ask for 21 Jump Street, the fake cop. That's what he is. 21 Jump Street up in here. So listen, I don't, I remember, all I know of P. Diddy is the name P. Diddy, and I knew he was a rapper, but I couldn't tell you anything he sang or did. And then as soon as all this stuff happened, you know, recently in the last couple weeks, everybody's coming out, you know, now there's all these videos and apparently like.