Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - The Largest 'Pill Mill' In American History | American Pain (The Real Story)

Episode Date: June 22, 2025

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Chris started a pain clinic. He is not a doctor. His girlfriend's dog was the medical director. We had $25 million. We're hiring new doctors and having food fights and throwing Chinese stars at each other. What could go wrong? I get a call. He was like, it's over, man. The FBI is everywhere, dude. What I was for, my mother didn't come home one night. At 1 o'clock in the morning, my father and I went looking for her because she was a bartender. the bar was closed there was two ways to get there it was like a circle so he loaded me up in a truck and we went left to complete the circle hit the bar she didn't see her car there on the other part of the circle on the way back to the house um saw her car in a driveway um we parked down the road

walked up looked into the window of the living room and she was uh having sex with a guy in the living room. My father was carrying me. Walked around the side door of the house, just a screen door, opened a screen door, walked inside in the living room. My mother looked up and said, oh, shit. And my father said, oh, shit is right.

And he put me down. And my mother jumped up and ran into the kitchen. and my father turned towards her and she had come with a or no before that the guy jumped up saying what are you doing in my house and my father hit him and he went down

and then he turned his attention to my mother who came out of the kitchen with a knife and earlier in the day me and my father were fishing so he had a knife as well in his pocket right here he pulled that knife out and they were kind of like a standoff like this and my dog was there with my mother so I was with the dog um the guy got up off the floor and lunged at my father

and he turned around had the knife stabbed him and the guy ran out of the house my father chased him down I didn't see what happened out there but the guy ended up dead with 57 stab wounds I believe and my mother ran out there I heard them screaming and uh then my mother came running back into the house covered in blood and uh I don't really have any memory of exactly what happened I just kind of remember um standing over my mother and she wouldn't wake up and then my dad come running I don't know he went somewhere else in the house and then he came running out and grabbed me we ran out of the house ran down the street got into his truck went to my grandma's house and then i remember like them

trying to put me to bed and be like fighting with them but i was covered in blood so they're trying to clean me up put me in bed and whatnot and then that's pretty much all i remember so my father had murdered my mother and her lover and so that from that point the next morning he went to jail he went and turned himself in and I went and lived with my aunt and uncle my father's brother his wife and there are two kids Todd and Kim who are my brother and sister now and say my cousin So my father went to trial. I started school. It lasted.

There was two trials. The first, you know, it took a year for the first trial before that one started. And it was a hung jury, right? So they had to try them again. So now another, it was another. It was like a crime of passion, right? Yeah. So it was a hung jury, the first trial.

And then it was another year before the next trial. So now I'm six, now, I was five, six. Now I'm in second grade, still living with my aunt and uncle. And then the next trial came along, and, you know, it was a very long trial, and he was found not guilty by means of temporary insanity. And, but, you know, he's just been in jail for all this time. So I stayed with my aunt and uncle again. While he was on his second trial, he met a woman, a beauty, cool.

miss new york state and they started a relationship and uh moved in together eventually you know within not a very long time he moved to the city to staten island with her and i you know i stayed with uh my aunt uncle and then it just by the time he was ready to um have you have a have a life and us be back together i mean i had already been i was in fifth grade by now. So I just stayed with my aunt and uncle a whole time. And then him and his he married, they got married.

My father and a stepmother, they got married. They had three more children. I graduated high school, all that kind of stuff. I had three brothers. I graduated high school. I moved to Florida. The first, I guess it was the second year

I was in Florida. So it was 1998. they my father and stepmother started having problems the divorce was imminent she served him divorce papers and then he shot her murdered her and then off himself so yeah that was that was about it so then now it was uh you know i was already in florida for about two years so i was established what were you doing then i was i worked for a same company i work for right now At that time, I was a warehouse manager for a large plumbing company in West Palm Beach. Like, when did you meet the George brothers? All right.

So, you know, I worked at that plumbing company until 2001. And I left and went in with another guy that was building houses in Loxahatchie. And we kind of like became like kind of like a partnership building houses. out there and um jeff uh had a company called shutter king so he did um hurricane shutters right and he was cheap he didn't even i don't think he cared about the business as all for i used them for two or three years and he never even sent me a bill you know what he like i don't know what why he was even doing it maybe to like appease his dad that he was uh doing something but he didn't it was just a nightmare that like they would he would come and drill for the shutters and you just

had to stack the shutters in the garage for your inspection maybe put like one shutter up on a window for to get your final inspection on the house and uh i mean he would do exactly that and there would be stacks of shutters in a garage that didn't even match the house so a hurricane would come and the people that bought a house from us would go to put a put their shutters up and none of them would even match they'd have either too many or not enough nothing but uh we became friends and started hanging out all the time and we like to work out and um i met chris through jeff and uh me and him became friends and then eventually i think about 2005 i actually went to work for their father And the only area that was really still doing good was the Northport area over here, which Chris was running.

So they asked me to come over here. So I moved over here. And then that's when me and Chris really became friends. So when did you get the first DUI? I've never had a DUI. No. Are you serious? Yeah.

I've never had a DUI. What was it? It wasn't a DUI. So what was it? My driver's license got so screwed up. I got either somebody that was driving one of my trucks, right? One of my company trucks or me got a seatbelt ticket that I don't remember or somebody else got it, right? So like 2000 and, I don't know, like three or, no, it's like 2004.

I get pulled over in Port St. Lucie. building houses up there. I live in West Palm. I'm in Port St. Lucie. I get pulled over and they're like, dude, you haven't had a driver's license in like three years.

Your license is suspended. We got to take you to jail because normally it would just be a ticket, but because you live in Palm Beach County and our county lines don't touch, I can't just give you a ticket. I have to take you to jail and tow your car. Right?

Like, okay, whatever. Now, in West... Did you have any idea that you, it was suspended? I don't think. I thought the first one I don't think that I did okay right so they told my car they take me to rock road um the jail in st lucy county and uh I mean I bail out within a couple hours right I bail out within a couple hours and uh go get my car back drive of course I you know have

somebody bring me to the to the to the yard I get it I drive home go to work the next day drive up there like whatever in it because in west in palm beach county that happens right you your license is suspended they give you a court date right a ticket and a court date and as long as you show up to that court date with your driver's license back like it's usually over i forgot to pay a ticket right something like that so they just do that and then you show up to the court say look i got my driver's license back i'm sorry i just forgot about paying that ticket and they throw the ticket out Right. Right.

But I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to drive in between that time. Right. I mean, you're supposed to go get it taken care of right away. But I didn't. That happened to me before, you know, but I was like, whatever. I'll deal with it next week. Went right to work the next day. On my way home from work, I get a call that somebody's robbing one of the houses, right?

So I'm getting on a turnpike to come home. I do a U-turn, call 911 and start going to the house. It's a house under construction. They're like stealing the windows or something. something right call the police to tell them to meet me there and I'm speeding there I get pulled over again I mean it's literally it's less than 24 hours like 18 hours later I tell the cop what's going on he doesn't want to hear it takes me right back to jail toes my car again takes me right back a couple hours later I get out I leave my car in the tow yard up there the next morning

I get up, I go to the St. Lucie County Courthouse, pay the $78 ticket. So now I've been arrested twice, bonded out twice, all over this ticket that I don't even know if it was me who got it, right? Still not, I pay the ticket, but now they give me a slip that I got to go to the DMV, right? So I got to work. And I'm like, dude, I'm not going to, I'll just finish out today and I'll hit the DMV on away tomorrow right pull out of the office the majestic office and uh i see a cop car behind me and i still have the markings from when they towed the car you know they write on it with a wax fucking

thing and i'm like you got to be shitting me i pull out of the parking lot light them up boom take me to jail again three times and now it's it hasn't been a full 72 hours you know what i mean it's like 18 hours 18 hours 18 hours right back to jail again this time they like like on your bond the bond is like 25 dollars you know what i mean something like like that this time it's like four grand to get out because i'm already out on bound and i've been arrested now it's twice i've been arrested within i'm like you got to be kidding me so it just caused such a, they ended up suspended my driver. They put me on felony probation, right, because it was three times, put me on felony probation, suspended my driver's license for five years, two years

of felony probation, all this shit. So I had a driver at that point, you know what I mean? I'm doing my felony probation. I have a driver. That's around the time that they, I moved over to Northport with Chris and I'm building houses and you know by that time Majestic was paying for somebody to drive me around but they were like listen when you go over there we're not going to pay nobody to drive you around and I'm like I fuck it you know what I mean I just I'll just obey the laws you know what I mean and hopefully not get pulled over shit man it wasn't now I'm on felony probation three times now driving on suspended it wasn't two months before I get pulled over at work right arrest me send me to uh what what's the jail in sarasota

whatever county sarasota county jail right right send me there now my bonds like four thousand dollars again something like that chris has to bail me out they told my car get out right now i'm like all right now now i'm paying somebody to drive me around right a weekend come something happens we're doing a closing at mage and uh so yeah that that's the this is so now we're on five we're doing a closing at majestic and the guy who's um paying him paying him eight dollars an hour to drive me around every day doesn't show up i have a final walkthrough with a homeowner before the closing doesn't show up i can't get a whole amount of phone fuck it go start my car up i back out of my driveway and

the road is blocked on both sides cop cars or somebody is running from the police or something like that and I'm like shit so I back out I see a cop car here at the end of the block a cop car here at the end of the block I go pull back in the driveway before I even got the garage door back open one of those cops pulled in right

boom go to jail again driving on a suspended license on felony probation I'm like, you got to be kidding me. So I bond out. I tell the people, I bond out, I tell the probation people, listen, this is what, what happened? They're like, what's wrong with you? Are you an idiot? And I'm like, listen, I got a violation.

So you're going to have to come back here and go to jail. And I'm like, man, can't you just let me deal with this? And they're like, no, there's no, like, it's going to take two weeks, right? And I'm like, fuck. So I lived over on Northport, but all my family and friends and everybody were still in the West Palm Beach area. So this happens on like a Thursday. So Saturday, I'm like bored.

It's right before Thanksgiving. I'm bored. Chris isn't around, nothing like that. So I was like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm going to jail anyway. I jump in my car to drive across the state, right? 9 o'clock at night, get pulled over and bell.

glade right to jail again so now it's five five of them while on felony probation the whole nine end up going to jail uh i worked it out um i don't know i did like three or four months or something are you speeding how are you getting pulled over this much i i don't know like they run the cops have those tag readers right so you go past the cop and it automatically runs your tag so i guess i would go past them it would run or tag and be like oh this guy driving on a suspended license easy one you know what i mean pull me over i mean it was like i don't know a year period where i mean i must have i must have got arrested 12 times for driving on a suspended license and and all this stupid shit so it ended up bad i didn't i didn't have it and the last time

the when i went to bet when it bell glade that was the last time um They took my car. It was used in committing of a felony. They actually took my car. It was a 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee. They took it. I couldn't get it back. I never got it back.

So that's like a brand new car back thing. Yeah. This was 2007. Was there a lien on it? I think I owed like $3,000 or something like that on it. They took it. They took the goddamn. I couldn't get it back.

And, you know, after it was all sending down, I did a few months in jail, and then I got out on, again, felony probation, like two years of felony probation. What is Jeff? I mean, I'm assuming these are the guys you're calling to get you out of jail, right? No, no, they never got me out of jail. You know what? The one time in Sarasota, one time in Sarasota, Chris got me out.

And what did they say? Are they, like, laughing about it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like. What do you do? Yeah. Yeah, like the first three of them, I was working directly for their dad. Right.

Right. In the West Palm Beach area, you know, and I'm getting arrested every day at work. Three days in a row, I'm getting arrested. And everybody's like, you got to be doing something else. Yeah. There's got to be something. What do you do? You know what I mean?

Let's get this straightened out. You know what I mean? And I'm like, this is all I'm doing. You know what I mean? And like every time it would add us a year or a couple years to, to my suspension on my driver's license. And that's what I basically drive for a living. I drive around to all the houses that we're building, you know, schedule everything.

I got to check to progress, check on all the guys, make sure nothing is getting still. That's what I do. So I can't drive. Right. At one point, I remember John, Chris, and Jeff's dad was like, let's get you one of those under 40 horsepower. Scooter. Scooters. Yeah.

I'm like, dude. I'm not doing it. So the last time after the Bell Glade thing, they fired me. Majestic fired me, right? So I didn't even have a car, right? I had, I don't know, maybe 10 grand to my name. And I moved in with a friend of mine in West Palm Beach. I didn't have a job.

There was no job options because I couldn't drive. You know, I mean, you got to drive to pretty much everything, you know. And here I was, been doing construction my entire life. You know, I'm a supervisor for multi-million dollar companies. I got all, I know how to do all the, you know, all the experience, all this, but I can't drive. So nobody can hire me, you know? So I just, like, sat around my buddy's house, like waiting on my money to run out, basically. And in that time, actually, when I was in jail doing those, you know, two, three months, whatever it was, was when Chris and Jeff opened our.

put the plan together to open the first pain clinic. Right. So when I got out, I didn't even hear from either one of them. They were scheming and getting leases and stuff like that. Right. So, you know, I like basically for probably a good month, I just sat at my buddy's house. You know, all my stuff was in storage or at this person's house. I didn't have anything.

I was sleep, you know, staying in my buddy's spare bedroom and a little. apartment in the middle of West Palm Beach, no car, no nothing. He'd go to work. I'd be fucking sitting there, you know, watching fucking movies all day. But then eventually Chris calls like, all right, this is what I'm going to do. I can't hire you or anything, but I got to build the office. So will you come, I'll pay you. You know, I'll pick you up in the morning. It's offices in Fort Lauderdale. I'll pick you up in the morning. I got to have it built in a week or whatever it was and um i'll pick you up bring you home um whatever i was like that sounds good so you know i was down there every day took us about two weeks new flooring new uh he had somebody else frame

and drywall it but you know i pretty much did everything else during the time and i remember at the uh you know when it was almost done the sign was up outside that said pain clinic big giant sign that said paint, white sign with red letters, probably 10 foot by 10 foot pain clinic in a middle of Wilton Manors off of Oakland Park in a dilapidated building, the roof caving in just inside when we were done looked pretty nice, you know? Well, I mean, outside, everybody's seen the pictures of it, you know, from the newspaper and all that kind of stuff. But towards the end of, you know, getting done, I remember laying the carpet and I was laying the carpet so I had the glue all over me and I was also

cutting the bottom of the doors off so I had the glue and the sawdust stuck to me that's what I remember about this situation it was like 8.30 at night and I mean the place still all the saw horses and tools and everything were opening people were coming in opening a door I'm like hey it's a doctor here is a doctor here with like you know Appalachian accent, you know. And like, what are you talking about? This is a doctor. What doctor? You know what I mean? I knew what they were talking about. But I'm like, this is kind of pretty insane that it's 8.30, 9 o'clock at night. They walk into a construction site. Because they, yeah, because they see a sign. And I'm like, wow, that's really something. So, you know, I finished that up.

and I went, you know, he was opening an office. He told me that he didn't have any, you know, he didn't even know if it was going to work. So there was not, what was I going to do? Be a receptionist, you know what I mean? Am I going to answer the phones or whatever? So I went back and I, you know, to my buddy's apartment and I happened to get a job repairing all the sliding glass doors on a building on Palm Beach, huge condo building. So I did that. It took like two weeks and then I had nothing again.

I was just sitting there. And then Chris called and he was like, listen, man, I need you to, I'll pick you up tomorrow. It was like a Tuesday. I'll pick you up tomorrow. I just need you to hang out at the office because I can't be here. And it's just Diana and the doctor. And, you know, we got pills and there's a little bit of money. It's not a great neighborhood.

but just stay here. You don't have to do anything. Just stay here. I'll pay a couple hundred bucks. I got to go meet with a bank or something like that. And I'm like, all, whatever. So I have a quick question, real quick. Chris, right?

Yeah. Chris started a pain clinic. He is not a doctor. He's not a doctor. So, because you would explain this to me before, but every time I've explained this to somebody, they're just always like just as fucking shocked as I am. Yeah.

so anybody can go open go lease of a space and get licensed to open up a clinic or a hospital even and they don't have to have any experience they just have to hire somebody you have to have like you can open it up right but you can't do business until that person's the person that you hire's medical licenses hung up on the wall or and register it's like kind of like a contractor um So, I can just go, I don't have a plumbing license, right? Right. But I can go open up a corporation, Nolan plumbing, right? And then get somebody who has a license to qualify it. Right. Right. So it's basically the same thing.

So Chris, Chris has no experience, builds out the rents of space, has you build out the entire space, hires a doctor, the doctor starts seeing patients, he has no. no qualifications. Just what's up a sign. And, but how it came about was, you know, we used to go to, when we were younger, we'd go to these, the HRT clinics, the hormone replacement therapy things. You know what I mean? There's, there are, I don't know, maybe four or five of them in the South Florida area

over there. And we'd go to all of them. And after Jeff's hurricane shutter business closure, you know what I mean? that he never I still remember it when his dad calling me like okay um we shut we shut down shutter king and he's been doing work for you for three years and you've never sent us any money and I'm like his dad was going over the books closing it down and I'm like he's never sent me a bill right one time what am I supposed to do you know what I mean he's never sent me a freaking bill but anyway so his idea Jeff's idea after that

Hurricane Shutter thing was to open up his own HRT and what he did. Him and Chris put their money together, whatever. Chris stayed as a silent partner on the West Coast and Jeff ran that company. And it did pretty good. It was like at one point it was like the biggest internet steroid selling thing. So that's where the whole medical thing came from. That's where they got the idea. he had experience yeah and he met a doctor that was signing scripts for steroids right right and the doctor

was like hey man why don't you do this you know what I mean and Chris and Jeff don't drink don't do drugs right very rarely do you see them have a a cocktail right no drugs ever you know um so it's just money to them you know what I mean they don't to them it doesn't click the addiction you know what I mean that they have never experienced it or been around it. So that kind of thing just does not click with them. It's just money to them. You know what I mean? So they just know you can make money doing this. This is what I told you. We pay the doctor this much. They pay us this much. We have to do the paperwork. We make this much money. And our hands are clean of it. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So and me and Chris had that conversation. You know what I mean? When I was building out the office and stuff, I'm like,

dude you're not a doctor what I don't understand but then at the same time I was like well they did it with the with the HRT clinic right you know what I mean I'm like well so what could go wrong you know what I mean I'm like okay it makes sense and Chris's actual explanation to me was listen how many doctors own Wellington Regional Hospital no doctors that's a it's a corporation that owns it and the doctors answer to them there's a board that makes medical decisions and he's like well i'll hire a medical director right you'll be the medical director and actually instead of me being a medical director it was uh his girlfriend's dog mo was the medical director but i'm like you're gonna hire me yeah i got one mo mo would come in as a wiener dog

he would come in every day with chris and his girlfriend sit there and shit on his um what are those calls a poo poo pads you know what i'm talking about for the dogs right stink up to place dog running around um you know everything with us you know um from knowing me for a while like it's kind of a big joke everything is a joke you know what i mean wise ass about everything you know what i mean so it's like whatever roll of the punches kind of thing you know and um actually when it opened and i wasn't there i wasn't working there um it was only maybe two weeks maybe it might it only been a week. You know what I mean? He didn't even have the licensing or anything in order. He just opened this place and the doctor, Dr. Oversey, brought his pills from another place.

So he had pill, Dr. Oversree was working at another pain clinic, right? And back then when you could sell pills at a pain clinic, they're the doctor's pills. Right. Okay. So you just got to have have a little room there's like a if you go on a DEA website it tells you what is required for your pharmacy it has to be a room five foot by four foot there has to be a lock safe with a medication that has to be labeled per doctor right right it didn't even say that i'll get to that in a minute didn't even say that just said it had to be a room four foot by five foot um with a safe and one dead bolt so you you have to open up the door and then inside the medication had to be stored in a safe.

Didn't say anything else. Didn't say anything about who was the one like a pharmacy tech wasn't required. Like it doesn't say anything like that. It basically said it's got you got to have a safe in your closet. Yeah. It's basically what it said, right? And there's no, and the safe doesn't have to be really safe. Exactly.

It could be a locked door. That's my, that's my safe over there. It's this closet with a special with a lock. That's the same. That's it. So at this point, when I came on, Chris had leased the building, built it out, made an arrangement with the doctor, filed a, for a corporation, right? Probably didn't even have the corporate papers back yet.

Right. Right. No licensing, nothing. The doctor went to his other pain clinic and brought all his medication, including ED medication, antibiotics just brought everything and put it in that safe right right so we had limited pills right and then at that time they were working on to where Chris could order the medication for him this is Dr. Overstreet working on all that I got literally my first day well no let's go back a little bit so the first day when he told me I just need you to come sit here I that's exactly what

I did. I came and I sat there all day, right? Just sat there. Diana was making, there was maybe 10, 12 people came in and out the door, right? It was more making folders, setting up file cabinets and stuff, but I really didn't do anything, made some photocopies, sat there all day. There was a couple issues with irate patients or people doing shooting up at the clinic or something like that that I would shoe the people off. You know what I mean? We didn't know. I had, no idea what I was getting myself into, you know what I mean? These aren't normal like people that, you know, and people that are, have done or know this industry, then they understand. But what the most people that are watching don't understand is that these aren't normal patients. These aren't people coming out because they, they have a runny nose or they have a pain in their stomach or anything. These are people that are, the bulk of them are looking for the most inexpensive appointment that they can go to, people that, a doctor that won't ask, too many questions so they can get a prescription so that they can sell those pills or do the pills

because they're at they're either addicts or they're doctor shopping multiple clinics trying to get as many pills as possible so they can go and sell them either in florida or georgia or south carolina wherever they're from where they can get a whole bunch of money because you're buying pills for a dollar a pill that are selling for 20 bucks a pill. 20 or 40 whatever it was and and listen This is a world that I had no idea. Like, he told me he was opening a doctor's office. And I'm like, okay, he's opening a doctor, you know, pain. I knew it was, they specialized in pain, you know what I mean?

So I, whatever, I sat there all day. He gave me like, 500 bucks for the day, whatever. I was like, cool, went home next day, sat up my house. The very, two days after that, he calls me, hey, I need you to come in again. And I was like, all right. That was an easy, 200 bucks? Yeah. yeah whatever it was it was like 500 you know what i mean and so the next day i went there i was

like i kind of ingratiated myself into it a little bit i started helping the people with their files doing this doing that you know what i mean bringing people back to see the doctor and i noticed that you know three days ago we saw 10 people or 11 people today we saw like 25 and all 10 of those people that were here three days ago are back not seeing a doctor but they each brought to other people right right and I'm like okay so and and it was that that day they said Chris gave me a check and it was like right down the street was a tax collector's office it was like hey go get this license down there I went and got the license they were open for like two or three weeks yeah I went down there it was $36 I still

remember I remember going in there having the form filled out going up to the lady she stamped the thing out printed something I gave her a check for $36 went back and we hung it on the wall at the office and now I was like all right I see what's going on here you know what I mean and so I worked maybe another day in two days I went back I went home I got another little side job something I did that and I remember driving home from it and uh Chris calling me and was like, hey, man, why don't you just work here? We'll pick you up every day, this, that deal. I was like, dude, you're going to get me thrown in jail. You know what I mean? By this time, I saw what it was. I know how Chris and Jeff are. For example, when I say I know

how Chris and Jeff are, I remember when doing the hurricane shutters, how they ran, how Jeff ran that business, right? So when you submit a permit for a new house, okay, you can, you You've got the plans, all pages of the plans, and then everything, the garage door you put in the house. You have to have a speck for it. It's staple to the plants. The windows has to have the wind pressures. Everything has to match up with the engineer's plan. But for everything you put in that house, now it's to the point where you have to have specs for your refrigerator.

So your plans, you know, say it's 10 pages. It's like this thick because it has all these little books for every single thing you have in your house, right? so Jeff I don't know for some reason he didn't want to use the 14 gauge hurricane shutters that were required right so he made an engineer stamp right found 18 gauge or 20 gauge hurricane shutters got to specs for him stamped it with his fake engineer stamp submitted it not with a set of plans to the building department but submitted it to the actual administration of the billing department to get approved. And it got approved. Right. With a fake everything. Yeah.

Right. So, like, I knew what I was. Yeah, yeah. I knew what I, you know, when they were like, all right, come work. I knew what was going on. But I was like, dude, this guy's giving me $500, $700. And he's picking me up. His wife picks me up.

We eat Ruth Chris's steakhouse every night for dinner. Ruth Chris's rain dancer I'm like fuck it What am I doing I got another At that time I had another year

Before I could even get a Work driver's license Right I had another year And a couple days At this point Before I can even get that I'm on felony probation

And that was the other thing Was I wasn't allowed to leave Palm Beach County And we were in Brower County So every day When I was like I was allowed to leave for work But I had to call a probation officer Right

And say hey listen I'm working at this address in Broward every day right so I was like let me see am I gonna fucking say fuck it right and just I went and what I did was I went and opened up a fake corporation I paid 200 bucks and it was like Nolan uh construction consulting mm-hmm right open up a bank account total probation this is what I'm doing I'm a consultant for construction Now, so I didn't have to show any pay stubs. You know, when you're in probation, you have to have a job and show you pay.

So now I'm self-employed, right? So I was done. You know what I mean? It's the state felony probation, whatever. So I never called in again. I'd go once a month to, and terms of that probation was, it was like that probation was until I got a driver's license back, right? So the second I got any type of driver's license, it was over.

I was done. So I handled all that and just started. I worked like one more day and Diana, oh, they got me a, bought me a gym membership too. So we would work, right, go eat at Ruth Chris, or wherever, rain dancer, whatever, go to the gym and they would bring me home. And like $700 a day. And I, whatever, you know what I mean? You got to, we didn't act like nobody was wearing scrubs. Right.

I was wearing affliction t-shirts, jeans and a pair of Doc Martins. You know what I mean? Whatever. Nobody cared what you're doing. I would drink at the office all day. You know what I mean? I had a cooler full of beer or the refrigerator full of beer. Whatever, lunch.

But we didn't really do anything. You know what I mean? This is not exactly a clinic. environment. We weren't cure in cancer. Right. There was no experiments going on. Nobody had, there was no microscopes.

We weren't studying any labs, you know. So I worked one more day or something. And on the way home, it was just Diana driving me home. And she was like, listen, we really want you to stay. I mean, we don't care how much we'll just pay you. You know what I mean? Thousands, it doesn't matter. I'm like, all right, I'll stay.

You know what I mean? And then it wasn't a couple days later that our doctor, Dr. Overstreet, disappeared. Nobody knew where he was. You know, he was the last time we saw him was a Friday night. And he had a little conference with Chris, asked that I left the room. And it was a conference because he wanted his part of the money because he was going to Panama, right? what didn't wasn't telling his wife about it or something like that he was he wanted to cash Chris gave money we never saw him again and uh so when we went to open up Monday morning

now it's been three weeks we already have appointments so we have like 30 people so we had to like scramble and find a doctor and Jeff had already been talking to a doctor Dr. Gittins, her name was, but she lived in New York, right? And now we got, call it 25 people, 15 or 20 of them patients sitting there waiting on a Monday morning for us to open up. And we don't want each person spends, it's 200 to see the doctor, call it a dollar a pill, and then you get three prescriptions. One of those prescriptions is a dollar pill. One of them's 60 cents a pill one of them's 40 at the pill so probably 500 in medication plus a $200 visit right there's 20 people sitting in there okay yeah that just today pays the lease yeah right so we're scrambling trying

to find a doctor end up about 9 o'clock in a morning making agreement with this doctor who's in New York she catches the first flight from Newark airport to Fort Lauderdale we have her a room booked at the what's it called the hard rock right we did a long-term rental for a room there pick her up at the airport she doesn't even go she brings her brother too he goes and checks in she shows up at like three o'clock in the afternoon with a script pad we already had script pads with all her information waiting on her and just start seeing a patience we stayed until like two three in a morning that night this is like three weeks in and man that was really like Right then, it all kind of blew up.

Now we're seeing 30 a day, every day. And now it's, okay, I'm running everything. Chris is setting up accounts with different pharmaceutical companies because we're running at, we're now selling Dr. Overstreet, who's dead and missing, we're selling his pills. Right. That's 21,000 a day. If on average, roughly, it's $700 per person that walks in, and you're saying it's roughly

it's roughly, it's 30. Yeah. Yeah. Because I remember the photos, it's funny because the photos in the newspaper and online. It's one pill, it says pain killers, or no, pain, what is it, pain? Pillbillies. No, no. I mean, the sign was, oh, it said pain clinic.

Pain clinic. And then there's a, there's a line outside. Yeah. Like, because there's so many, they don't have enough. Pillillies go hold. or something the headline was it gets to the point where there's they can't put everybody in the waiting room waiting room only holds whatever 10 15 people or something i mean it was supposed to we had 200 people in there and i mean it was as big as this room literally as big as this room

that we're in right now with two vending machines two flat screen TVs on a wall and a bunch of these shitty chairs these exact shitty chairs that you have right here that's killing my back at this moment right now about 50 of them. Right. I remember the first time I put all 50 of them together. We bought over $25 a piece off office depot.

These were $99. But they've been four, it's been four years. Inflation. It's been four years. And the doctor, the first doctor is really just gone. Oh no.

So he's gone, right? So we don't hear from him for like three weeks. And then all of a sudden, his wife and an attorney show up. And it turns out he was dead. I don't know if there was foul play involved we don't know nothing they found him at the bottom of a canal I don't know if it was a Panama canal but it was in Panama they found him at the bottom of a canal upside down and a Jeep Wrangler that I don't know how they do their CSI investigations in Panama

I don't know about their if they do blood test there I mean he's an American dead at the bottom of a canal they came in to get money and his medication he had a whole safe full of pills and we're like he did that one right so in that time

that he was from when he went missing to when his wife and his lawyer showed up right we hired this one doctor Dr. Gittins and

another one, Dr. Joseph, Enoch Joseph, the one that was in the video of me, me guiding them to protecting them from the Pavarazzi or whatever on the way into the clinic. So we hired him and because now like it literally, it was like overnight, you know, 10 patients to 30 a day, right? And at that point, and at that point, Dr. Gittins was, she was spending 15, 20 minutes with each person. Dr. Joseph was, he had been moonlighted. He was a gynecologist. And he also went back to Haiti.

He was from Haiti, Haiti. And he went back pretty often. I want to say once a month or something like that and inoculated babies or, I don't know, whatever they do over there. I don't know He's treating babies in Haiti and coming over here And fill in prescription pain Well, he had his own practice He had the got oncology office

Right He would do that Charity work or whatever in Haiti And I think prior to working for us He was moonlighting out of pain clinic here there Right And then he gave all that up And came on full

time with us because Chris offered the other pain clinics that were paying these doctors to Moonlight were paying $35 a patient Chris was like

fuck that 75 said it so more than double almost triple what everybody else was paying and what's your job at the clinics at this time I know initially

you're just sitting there but once you get hired on like what are you doing? Yeah at this point like there had been a couple issues where you know we didn't know everything and the patients didn't know so there was a couple issues with budding heads with the patients or them acting out or something like that that I had my basically

my job was supposed to be that I would sit there check the people in I didn't know what an MRI was I didn't know any of that at that point you didn't need an MRI you just come in and say my back hurts here's my driver's license and we put you back there and over street would write to medication so we didn't know that you i don't even think it is required that you have an MRI but when these new doctors came in they started saying hey i need to see something yeah right they can't just come in x-ray you know what i mean so basically what my job was was figuring out what we got to do so i we stole another pain clinics forms right uh hippo forms and all that kind of stuff just cut pasted put our name on it they fill out all their information i was just late i was becoming a learned

medical professionals what exactly i was doing you know what i mean i was i was walking the tight rope you know what i mean putting the hours in figuring out wearing the rubber gloves you know just kind of like figuring out how to run the that was my job you know checking the people in taking the patients people would start calling about prescrow i was figuring out what you had to do to order prescription pads, right? What was required of a pain clinic. I don't, and like, there wasn't anything on the books for the state of Florida on how pain clinic should be run.

Right. You know what I mean? Like, oh, it's just a doctor's office. You know, I'd call it like, okay, I want, I need this information about opening a pain clinic. Pain clinic, I don't know, there's no, there's no operating manual kind of thing. So what do you do? Oh, it's family practice.

Yeah, there you go. Yeah, these guys get hurt. They come in. We fix them up, you know, kind of thing. I mean, it's really, it's down to the doctor. The doctor has a license to prescribe. If he thinks you deserve, you need, medically need this medication, then he can prescribe it. But you guys are realizing something's wrong.

Something's wrong. These are drug addicts. Like some of these guys have real problems. And some of these guys are bringing other people. people with them. They're coming, see the doctor, and then they come back next day with five people. And so the doctors are saying, I got to see something. Like these guys are walking in here.

Well, so, yeah. So after he was gone, then you got Gittins and Joseph. And now they're like, okay, listen, we'll see them this month, right? We'll see the person this month. But next month, they have to bring us something, right? And that's when, like, things started to get chippy. with the patients and stuff like that so they're pissed like yeah they're pissed what do i need a or the doctor would refuse to write them a script or write them a small script right and be like

listen i'm going to give you 10 pills right just go get an MRI and come back yeah right and they're and i want my money back this that so i handled a few things a couple times in front of Dr. Giddens. What does that mean? Handled. I had to remove the bad part of the equation from our situation. You know what I mean?

And like one time it was in her office. You know what I mean? Someone I may have got drug out by their ears. And in another time, there was a guy in a full fake body cast in a wheelchair with like a sipping straw and everything

to go with it, right? That the doctor, that she was like, she found out he had paperwork. Yeah. And she was like, she felt suspicious about it. So she left the room, took his paperwork, and called this referring doctor. Uh-huh. And the guy was like, the other doctor was like, yeah, he just left here. I just wrote him 220 percocets or something like that.

So she went in there and was like, get out of here. I know what you're doing and this I'm like pushing him this motherfucker jumped up he's literally like awful like the damn movie grownups

where the guys got to cast on like this that's how he was cast everywhere legs arms everything jumps right up all the stuff comes right off goes after her right

so these doctors I mean they don't they know what's going on right like or are they just kind of is it willful blind It's real full-blown. I was looking for the right term.

I'm usually more of a word smith. I had too much coffee, so my wit hasn't come yet. But, yeah, it was like, I know what. You can't prove. I can't prove that you're lying. Yes. Something's wrong. Even with me and Chris, with me and with Chris,

where we don't want to talk about it. You don't really want to know. know. Yeah. I feel like I know, but I can't prove it. And I don't really want to. Like, you know, and then at the same token, I don't know if this is how if we got Dr. Gittins by selling her a different story. And she came in thinking X and gets here and it's B, right? It's something totally different. But at the end of day, she saw 30 people. patients at $75 a patient okay yeah it's a nice chunk of yeah she made a couple thousand over a couple thousand dollars today yeah right today so you can make $2,000 a day you show for this 10,000 and this is at the beginning you know what I mean and then so I don't know if it was that and she like kind of accepted it right and then started playing the game or whatever but it just wasn't talked about

But once those couple issues were handled that I handled, got everything taken care of, whatever, then they went to, because at this time, I wasn't going to stay. You know what I mean? It was just going to be like, okay, I'm waiting until I get another job. I figure something out with my driver's license. The doctors went to Chris and Diana, and we're like, listen, we really need, you know, we feel way more. comfortable with him here right right so then it was like them there these doctors aren't grabbing anybody by their fucking right by their ears you know they they just felt a little bit better about me being there and um so I was like you know what whatever I'm not going to get

it's going to be a year before I have my driver's license I'm making a shit load of money this place is only getting busier um okay you know and I just kind of threw myself all into it started hiring all my my friends that don't even know chris and jeff are and and diana so i started bringing my friends into it and then my friends started becoming patience right and uh that's not good yeah and not for any other reason but to sell the pills yeah you know what i mean i mean pretty much everybody that worked there got hooked on them at one point or whatever you know what i mean it became an issue right but um yeah so then it really once i decided okay i'm going to stay not it didn't blow up because i decided i was going to stay but when i decided okay i'll just

put my effort all my effort into this and um run the place and see where it goes you know what i mean that's not why it blew up but at that point it really blew up you know what i mean we're in this little teeny place. It's less than 1,000 square feet. It's got three doctor's offices. 400 square feet of it is where we hang out. 60

square feet is where all the files are kept and we check you in. It's a little skinny areas. Wide as a desk. File cabinets all on this side. Fax machine and copy machine on this side and just enough room to walk back and in a waiting room and three little teeny doctor's offices.

and it within weeks weeks within a month you know it was 60 people a day right 60 just coming in coming in and it would literally be somebody come down from Kentucky right come in see the doctor get their pills drive back to Kentucky and come back within 48 hours with five people yeah the pillville like they they they would they call it what they did they call bill billies yeah pill billy but what was i4 was the what they call it oxy alley oxy alley listen it was a huge this is a huge issue and what makes it spike off in florida just the regulations it's just yeah there's no there was no pharmaceutical tracking system in florida it was in 38 states florida not being one of them but all those 38 states florida was the closest one that didn't have it basically and

I mean, they call the main road in Boka, what do they call it, Magget Mile. Right. Everything's a scam. You know what I mean? Everything, everybody's on the take. That was the thing with the doctors that we hired, right? Like, that's what my main, I guess, what I added to it, I would always find out what this doctor's reasoning. is for being there you met dr graham right you knew him from prison right so when we hired him

like he would come in and he would write he would come in for an hour from four to five on wednesday and friday right and make a thousand bucks right for a couple weeks right and i could see it tormenting him what he was doing i could see him i i would i'm not a psychologist psychologist or nothing, but I've been around enough. I can read people a little bit. I mean, I can see. You know, you know, Derek, I don't know about this. I don't know about, and I'd be like, take it easy.

What's going on? Listen, man, no, I own, he owned a operating room. You know how he's a plastic surgery. Yeah. He actually owned his own operating room at the Boka Hospital, like where the medical buildings off there, where not only did he perform the surgeries, but he rented it out to other plastic surgeons to do their surgery. I know this because all of our girlfriends got their tits done at his office, right?

After we, you know what I mean? It came in. So I knew something was wrong. Why? And he was like, say he was 64, right? And I noticed right away that he drove like a, this is 2008. he had like a 94 BMW 445 or something like that right it's a nice card it's 12 years old yeah yeah yeah if you're if you're kicking ass as a surgeon you're not driving that he was known as

he i saw all these articles he was a boom man i don't know something like that that was his thing whatever so i would i'd see him struggling with what he was doing right in 240 oxies right in 180 and then he would he would go down be like Derek i'm not getting i'm giving this guy 30 pills right i'm like no you're not the guy just drove all right here from kutkutki you brought four people with him you're not giving him 30 pills oh derrick i don't come on man i'm like what are you doing here and you know him so you know how i'm when i'm being him that's how he is you know we kind of became friend i'm like Write that and then just go home.

Write them the 180 and go home. You don't have to be here. You don't understand. Something with his kids. Dropping out of school. Doing something with student loans or gambling or something like that. He's like, I'm fucking broke. You don't understand.

I don't want to fucking do this. I'm like, listen, man, I'm not twisting your arm. I'm not twisting your arm. I didn't hire you and I didn't. you. I didn't tell you anything, but this is how it is. And it was like this with all the doctors. Each one of them had a reason for being there. And that's, I kept them there by playing off of that. You know what I mean? There was doctors that maybe they had like some kind of fantasy about being a gangster. So I let them into, let them believe what they wanted, put on a little

bit of a show for him on how I acted and kind of became a dick-sized contest on who was the bigger gangster who could who was bringing a gun to work you know what I mean who they would tell me about things they did about their criminal history about getting arrested for fighting in Orlando when they were finishing up med school and spending a couple days in jail and you know things like that and there's ones that were just naive and I would protect them from everything when they would show up for work in the morning I'd be waiting outside in the parking lot so they didn't have to see the mess they didn't other patients weren't running up to them they didn't see any I'd have everything all the junkies pushed to the side when it came time to leave I would walk them to the

door their lunch they would get brought to their room I I kept them protected from seeing that uh i would act like a bodyguard for make them feel like they were that important right doctors that they would ask me to come with them to go buy a new car because they didn't want to get they felt like they were mercedes was ripping them off right so they would want me to come with them to you know what i did whatever i had to do to you know and at that point by the end, you know, we had 17 doctors working full time, you know, each seeing 100 patients a day, right? And I kept a piece between all those different personalities. They'd be fighting over the patient files because they got five offices in a row. Here's Dr. Aruta. Here's Dr. Joseph.

Here is Boschers. Here's cadet. Here's Dresher. Here's Dresher Jr. you have the main waiting room and I'd call like 15 people back at a time to the secondary waiting room right sit right here wait out this is basically right outside the doctor's offices each doctor had a file folder hooked to their door I'd be like okay you're going to see dr. treasure so I'd put each one would get two files in it right and like I said they're getting paid by the patient. So Aruta's seeing him at 45 seconds, right? Boshers is seeing him at two minutes. Drescher's seen, Dresher is 75 years old. He's seeing him at a minute and a half and really doesn't care, whatever. So Aruta's getting done with his. I haven't brought any new patients

back, so he'll just take somebody's file out of their box. fight would start between the doctors, you know. Like, that was based, that's what my job ended up becoming, just keeping the peace between everybody, putting in policies, you know, I'm on the phone with the doctors, me, on the phone with the attorneys getting new HIPAA forms that the patients have to sign to become a pain management contracts. I'm writing them on my laptop and sending them. to the attorney to get them approved so that these people can sign my legal forms.

You know what I mean? Just silliness, basically. Is it all cash? All cash. No, we took credit cards. 17 doctors. How much money is the facility bringing in? Well, when I say 17 doctors by the end, we had four clinics, right?

So the most that we had at one clinic was the big clinic called American Paine. We had six doctors working full time. each seeing 100 to 120 a day. So I think the most we ever saw was like 678 people in one day. So every one of them paid either $150 if you were a follow-up patient or $200 if you were a new patient. And I would say 70% of them filled their medication there. So 70% of those 600 people spend $1,000 there.

so at the end of the day there was stacks of cash um each person who was taking money so it would be six windows to check in and either one or two medication windows checking in that all had the nine gallon garbage cans right below the desk so they would take the money throw it in the desk and i would walk around like every hour and grab everybody's and then go dump it in a a room for Ethan to count them on, put the money through the money counters, separate it, fold it up, and then at the end of the day, they always say that we carried it out in trash bags and stuff, but we never carried out in trash bags. What we would do was put it in a box of empty drug tests.

So it looks like a pizza box, right? So it looked like when Ethan would leave it at the end of the day. He was carrying a box of drug tests. Well, I don't, one time money went into a garbage bag, right? One time money went into a black garbage bag and a bunch of flyers for the clinic or was in a black garbage bag right next to each other. Chris walked out of the place thinking he was grabbing the flyers, right? Brought him out to his truck, threw him in the back of it as an SUV, threw him in a backseat,

took somebody to a dentist appointment or something like that was sitting in a dentist office heard his alarm going off somebody had broken into his truck right and he was like why would they take the flyers they like took a CD and the flyers it gets back to the office and opens up the other black garbage bag and that's where the flyers are he grabbed the wrong trash bag so someone just made off

some kid on escape I think they saw a video Like some kid on a skateboard, broke the window, was rifling through stuff, looked in a trash bag, and it was full of 20s, 10s, 50s, and hundreds. How much was total? It was like 300-something thousand. And got all, so they carried the money out in trash bags. No, we didn't. We kept the money instead of a little register.

You had a nine-gallon bucket, right? Just a nine-gallon garbage can that you see in every office, under every desk you take the money you throw it in there i would pick it up when it filled up once every hour once every half an hour bring it to ethan ethan run it through the money counter band it up stack it up a couple times a week he would take it home put it in a safe whatever a couple times a week you would go to the bank deposit the money in the bank when we could try to split it up because banks don't want cash ever since the what was it this 80s? with Miami was built on drug money everybody bringing their drug they don't want cash anymore it

just causes too many problems so we had to figure out play games deposit this much of this count deposit that much of this account this bank this branch that kind of thing can I ask you want something sure when did the guy the money end up missing remember the guy guy ends up money's missing oh that was way at the beginning that was we were still you want to talk about that i do want to talk about that i i mean that's that's what i ended up going to prison for that was one of the charges yeah i i ended up telling i told my wife that story last night um she was like i was like yeah so you know what this is it was october 2008 okay we're at this first cypress creek location and um we had always been having problems depositing money in the bank

yeah always having problems um depositing the money and um so i mean it was probably every two weeks at the bank would just drop us so we're always constantly going to a different bank different branch whatever because you know cash you know they don't want cash um And we were fairly new into it. It was a year, and it's like a weird problem to have. That's something you would never think about. Right. It's something you would never think about.

So brought home 300 grand to Chris's house. Somehow it got, we had no bank to deposit in it at the time. So it was like Thursday and Friday, right? The cash came home, went. Somehow it got into a kitchen cat. cabinet that weekend chris had some people over for brunch um somebody must have that was at that brunch must have said hey can have a glass of water for some reason somebody opened up one of the kitchen cabinets and saw stacks of cash there's only like two or three people there right

saw the cash in there went to work the next week worked for an entire week that cash stayed right in there the next entire week's money didn't get deposited either for half a million dollars in an Abercrombie fish bag that got brought home

on a Thursday and sat outside the office door in Chris's house on his way to the bedroom on Friday we're at work get a phone call answer the phone somebody asked for Chris or his girlfriend

I say they are not there I don't know if it was me or somebody else took the phone call but it was an odd phone call asking people don't why wouldn't they call the cell phone right they call the office line and say is Chris or Diana there no they're not here who is this phone goes dead whatever don't think about nothing

and in the day we go out to dinner whatever Chris goes home I go home um five minutes after I get home I get a call Chris screaming get I need you to get over to the house right now this is when I still don't I didn't have a license so this is way back in the beginning so he sends Diane to come get me I get over to the house somebody stole a fucking money the cops were just leaving right and he said somebody stole a fucking money I said oh he called the cops yeah they don't believe me And I'm like, what do you mean?

They don't believe it. They said, nobody has that kind of money at their house. Nobody has that kind of cash to the house. I try to explain to them without explaining too much. And they think that it's like some kind of insurance thing, homeowner's insurance thing, whatever. But there's a broken window in the bathroom. So this person came into the development, broke into the bathroom window,

climbed through, cut themselves. So there's blood on the window, walked out. This is his master bedroom bathroom. walks out, and if you remember what I said about maybe two minutes ago, Monday through Thursday's take of a half a million dollars in Abercrombie Fitchbag was sitting outside the office directly next to the master bedroom, walked past the half a million dollars in Abercrombie Fitchbag, right into the kitchen to that one specific cabinet

where that money's been since the previous Thursday, took the money, went back out the window, and disappeared. Okay, so this wasn't a random break-in that somebody searched through everything because they left a half a million dollars sitting right there. Right. It's a gated community, right? They broke the window, went out the window, had to be quick, had the wherewithal to call the office and ask if Chris or Diana were home. So who knew that that money was there? Those three people.

There was me. Two people that were at the house at the brunch. Chris, his wife, and Chris's brother, Jeff. So. Okay. So, and now Chris and his brother, Jeff, we're beefing at the time. Chris calls his mom and asks if Jeff's been there. And his mom says, yeah, he was here.

He came here and put a duffel bag in the spare bedroom closet. Chris said, go look in that. Chris goes and looks in it. there's like half a million dollars in cash in the bag in there right so now jeff has his own clinics yeah and all that kind of stuff so but chris immediately thinks that it was jeff yeah so me and chris jump in his car haul ass over there by that time his mom figures out something's going on calls jeff says what's going on chris knows about what's in the bedroom what's happening and I don't want any kind of beef here.

We get there at the same time. Jeff has a dude named Robbie with him. I have, Chris has me with him. We go inside, they go into the room, they're arguing, kicking. Jeff's saying, that's my money from my clinics, whatever. They're fighting, yelling at each other. The parents are trying to break it up. Me and Robbie are sitting there looking at each other, right?

like okay um i don't know what to think i don't want to think that jeff would broke in the house but it's looking pretty fucking bad yeah right um they come wrestling out of the room with the bag it's like an army bag and look at it and it's not the money it's banded differently it's like like you could tell i think i think there was like rubber bands on it you know what i mean it was like not stacks of one hundred dollars it was fucking five's tens and 20s from Jeff's smaller places you know ones shit like that

so but now it's like okay who did it then right so there's a bunch of fighting a gun get their stepdad grabs the bag and takes off with it right like he's like going to get it

out of there so it doesn't get bad Jeff's got a gun right Jeff jumps in a car, takes off after him, pulls a gun on his stepdad, takes the bag back, comes back, now their dad is there, right? So it's like the whole family, extended family, it's not a nuclear family, right? It's the mom, dad, stepmom, stepdad, yeah, couple brothers, stepbrothers, sisters, extended. Me and Robbie, right?

and then kind of attention turns to Robbie at some point, right? And then the cops show up and the cops start asking Jeff for, they still think it was Jeff and they want DNA from Jeff. And Jeff's like you stupid fuck were identical twins. Of course my fucking DNA is going to be all over his fucking house. His DNA is my DNA. And I'm like, oh my God, dude. So it calmed down.

It was getting really heated, you know what I mean? Like, so we just left, right? I was staying with, it just kind of was like, I don't know what we're going to do. You know what I mean? No big deal. I was, my girlfriend lived in Fort Lauderdale and Tamarag. So the next day, I went down there, spent a night with her on Saturday night. On Sunday morning, I got a call from Chris.

I need you to get here right now. I'll pay for a taxi. I can't drive. Right. it's it's a drive it's an hour and a half take a taxi hour and a half up to his house i get there there's like a fbi car in the driveway like it's not a real fbi i car but it looks like one you know what i mean the caprice whatever like a newer one and i'm like oh what the fuck is this chris come inside there's a dude setting up a fucking table with a lie detector machine

And I'm like, what is going on? All right, I got to figure it out. It can only possibly be you, but it couldn't be you because you were at work with me. Gino, Robbie, Chris Hudson, or my brother, Jeff. So I invited everybody over here thinking that we're going to have a brunch and you're not going to let anybody leave this house until they take a lie detector test. And I'm like, oh, okay, that, you are? That's the plan.

That's what's happening right now. And he's like, yeah, you know, they'll probably all take it, though. You know, I don't think, you know, just don't let them leave. You know, I don't think anything's going to happen. And I'm like, I mean, what in the fuck? And that is the way, Chris, and that's more of a Jeff way. like over the years I would get recruited to go

thinking I'm going to a Dolphins game when it's really I'm going because Jeff's about to pull some shit and a fight's about to break out or easy to be there one time I was being brought to a Kenny Chesney concert and before he even came on stage

I was an hour back north chasing down somebody that robbed his house you know what I mean like that's the way it goes you know what I mean with these guys I'm like okay so everybody gets there and everybody's like what the hell

who are these guys sitting it's a retired FBI agent who now freelances as a lie detector it's him and his wife and uh everybody's like what the fuck's going on where's where's yeah there's no brunch there's not even a fucking piece of honeydew

you know what I mean there's nothing the water and uh now Chris is explaining everything to him and I'm watching the guy setting up to a lot of tech tests. They obviously lied to this guy to get him here. He's an ex-FBI agent. He's like, what am I doing here again?

He's like, he probably does cheating spouses type of thing, right? Oh, you're cheating on me. No, I'm not. I'll take a lot of tech tests. All right. That's probably what he does. Or for employers, we'll have, if you're getting a new employee, they'll lie, have you ever stolen, you ever smoke pot, you ever.

Something along these lines. not there's a half a million dollars missing there's a bunch of fucking giant steroided out dudes Chris is Chris's Chris's Chris's house yeah um

strippers titty's out the whole you know what I mean it's not tempers are flaring and I'm like watching the guy and he's like I don't know so then Derek stay with these guys

everybody's like I'm not fucking taking it oh I'll take it I'm not fucking taking it you know there's like an argument and I'm going dude this is going to get whatever so Chris goes and talks to the guy doing a lie detector and gives them like the

they're discussing because Chris like I just want to know which one of these fuckers did he's like we can't it doesn't work that way they have to be phrased the questions have to be phrased to see if there's deception it's not like yes or now do it right

yeah yeah are you lying you know and there's ways around it and everything whatever So, Chris is like, listen, man, it's not a fucking, if you didn't do it, everybody's saying they didn't do it, don't do it. And there was even one guy there that there was no, he was with us, right? And he was like, well, I'll take it too.

You know what I mean? And I was like, I'll take it. But I'm with them all day. You know what I mean? It's not me. So they all agreed to take it, right? and um they're going in there and i'm like listen this guy he's not going to tell us right somebody it's a lot of money there's gun like you walked through chris's garage and there's like 10 guns he

walked he had to walk you know what i mean yeah it's a lot of money he didn't know he drove all way over to west palm from tampa right and this is the this is this is the guy former agent yeah and and I'm like man he's not gonna fucking tell us you know what I mean I could see him and he had his wife with him and

something was gonna you know what I mean he knew something was gonna fucking happen if yeah you know and he was like real squirmy about it and this and that and he agreed to do it

and I remember whoever went everybody went and then Robbie was the last one to go and he would come out gave it to Jay Jeff, gave it to Chris, gave it to the G-No, he come out and be like, they didn't do.

I'm like, my opinion, they all had something to do with it. That's what I thought, right? I thought it was like one person told somebody, this person drove, this person, this person went over there, this person hired somebody. That's what my opinion was, right? Because it's a gated community. There's cameras, right? They left evidence behind all that shit. But then the Robbie went in, and he came out.

came out and went like this and then he went and called chris over there and he told chris that's your fucking guy right there he failed every fucking question right and uh so then i get called in there and jeff gets called in there with chris and he's like listen that it was robbie but i want the money back more than i want to do anything to him and robbie was living with jeff so he was like Jeff was like, give me your keys to your house. You take Robbie to lunch. We're going to say that we're going to go hunting after lunch to meet up at your house. You take them somewhere.

Me and Derek will go search your house to find the money, right? It was 300 grand where did he spend that much money, right? In that time. It's been what a week. Yeah. So they went their way. Me and Chris went over there. They're twins.

So the guard let them write in. You know what I mean? He was like, hey, Jeff, how you doing? We went into the house, searching a house, tearing everything apart. There's no money, right? Maybe it's in his truck. He had a blue escalade pickup truck, right? Go outside, it's locked.

I call Gator locksmith. Tell him to come. And now Jeff's calling, going, listen, man, did you find the fucking money? I got to do something with this guy, right? So he's like stalling, right? Go to the movies. Yeah, something, right. Bowling.

There's stuff to do. So they, uh, Gator locksmith comes, unlocks it, right? I go through everything. All I find is a pistol, right? And I can't get the tonic cover on the Cadillac bed open. And I'm like, all right, open the, I take the pistol, I take the bullets out. I put the fuck clip back in, the bullets in my pocket, put it back in there. In case, I don't know what's going to have.

Maybe when they come home, he gets his gun first. sniff something out do that i'm like all right open the bed and he's like well that's the ignition key so in order to make an ignition key to open the bed of the truck i have to take the ignition apart pull out a bunch of money go ahead here you go do it he pulls the i guess he was new but he took the ignition apart couldn't do it and couldn't figure out how to put the ignition back together so he's like i i don't know what's going on here you guys got guns and he's like shaking this is the locksmith and he's like i'm sorry i got a leaf yeah so the fucking whole the whole fucking escalate is taking apart the doors are open we can't get into the bed

of the truck i was like let me think about something so i went and pulled the back seat out right right and there's a little hole like this big that's like it's not even well that it's just like a metal piece it was like an octagon shaped hole i fucking kicked it and it punched it or kicked it and it fell in so shining a flashlight i'm from the backseat of the escalate i'm from the escalate inside, shining a flashlight, and I see like there's like a fishing pole, a couple things, I can reach a fishing pole, I pull a vision pole out, shining, shining, I see a public's bag. What's in there? I hook it with a fishing pole.

I pull it out, open it up for cash. And I'm like, nail fucking busted, dude. Is it the same kind of cash? It looks like it, right? Right. But we go inside. we call no we don't call jeff i pull it out i start looking through it but it doesn't have the bands on it right doesn't have our bands on it and i'm going through it and it's wrinkled up

hasn't been through the money counter yeah right and then there's a white piece of paper and i pull a white piece of paper out open it up it's a goddamn roster sheet from one of jeff's pain clinics so he robbed jeff right and it was only only being like 20s 25 or 30 grand, right? And we're like, holy shit. So he robbed Jeff. He failed the lie detector test. How to be him.

We got to get this information out of him, right? Jeff's fucking chomping at the bit. Dude, what am I going to do? Say, uh, listen, Jeff, uh, we didn't find our money, but we found the money he stole from you. It has your fucking roster from your, what? he's like i'm coming back right now i'm like okay so we move the car so when they pull in a driveway they don't see the car and know the jig is up right unbeknownst to me jeff so angry he stopped somewhere and gets a gun right it's a big house huge house and uh like there's wings

two stories there's wings the master baths bedrooms upstairs the whole front of of the house is the master bath on this wing in the back there's like a living room in the master and then a the back the master and then a huge covered patio this is upstairs on a second floor the other side other wing of the house upstairs is just bedrooms so me and chris are hanging in the front bedroom looking out the window right with the blinds waiting for they come in when he comes in i'm going to beat his ass and we're going to ask him some questions right so we and Chris are talking, Derek,

you're nice guy, man. Right now is the time not to be nice. You need you to know that. It's the time not to be nice, Derek. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever. I get it.

I understand my mission. Here's what I. These are big guys, but they're harmless, right? I don't want, I mean, I don't know. I never seen them fight, really.

I mean, but they're big guys. I've seen pictures. They're pretty big guys, but they keep bringing you in. Why can't they do anything? It's been the entire story of my entire life. It's not just with them.

That's been my entire life story. I've never asked anything of you. Do you have it? No, have I? You asked me to come on your show. Well, I mean, yeah, but that's that. And the only reason I haven't been because this entire time until I saw that other guy in there, I thought you were shooting gay porn.

I can't what this isn't mutually this is an exclusive and I've been trying to vacant rooms to roof I've been I've been like there's a lot of beds up there's I feel bad I've been trying to be nice about it politically correct and I'm like listen man I just don't have the time I didn't want to tell you that I wasn't gay we'll talk about it um so what were that so we're waiting up there and I'm getting the the pep talk yeah right and he's got a Chris had a thing of mace, right? And I'm like, oh, here we're.

And while we're talking, we're, like, distracted for a minute. And I hear a door shut. And I'm like, I look out the window. I'm like, oh, shit, did they get here? No, their car's not there. Listen, listen. I don't hear nothing. Like, okay, just fucking hearing things.

Maybe there's ghosts, who knows? A little while later, they pull in. I'm like, okay, let's go. Confront him. Chris, wait, let them get upstairs. they come upstairs you can go right left left is a master right is where we are they go in there as soon as they go in a bedroom we follow behind robbie goes right grabs a necklace out of chris's closet our jeff's closet a big gold diamonds is like hey man can i wear we're going

we're supposed to be going hunting and the dude's like hey man can i wear your necklace and as he turns around, I'm standing right there. Oh shit. So I put him down. You told him what? He's short and fat? Huh? You put him down. What do you mean? You put him down. He went on the ground. He vastly.

Like, kind of. You punched him? It was a punch slam combination type thing. The little poop came out. He pooped himself. He's wearing some jean shorts. It was smelly

bounced off the wall I picked him up slam them on his head and I was like damn I smelt it first right right and I was like

what the fucking I thought there was gonna be on my hands or my pants or something so he was down there and I'm like ah

I'm standing his face down and I'm like this and Jeff's like here dude he reaches behind his back and pulls out a pair of handcuffs and he's like cuff him

and I'm like I got shit on me. All right. I cuff them. I go into the bathroom and I'm like washing myself. And I hear boom. Gun go off. Now,

I took the bullets out of the gun downstairs. I didn't know there was any other guns around. Right. Right. Like I said, a minute ago, unbeknownst to me, Jeff stopped somewhere and got a fucking gun,

right? Boom, boom. boom i come running back in i'm like fucking shot him and at that moment right there i was like oh man we're going to jail for a long time right and even if he didn't kill him this dude's in handcuffs he's in handcuffs he's in handcuffs in florida there's a 1020 life use a gun have a gun 20 pull a trigger life 1020 life that's the florida life that's the florida life okay I'm like fucking hey

I took a breath and I go back there and the guy Robbie's out of the ground he's crying and he's like on his side kicking his legs he's like where's the fucking money I swear to God

I don't have the money I didn't do nothing and I'm like Jesus Christ I'm thinking we got to kill him now because we're going away for everyone might as well

yeah right and I'm like fucking right and all of a sudden I hear this coming we're in a hallway at the end of the hallway is the master bedroom master bathroom where I just was his master closet her master closet and I hear the in the closet and I'm like what in the fuck is that I pull the closet that door that what I thought I heard earlier right was the other guy Gino thinking we're going hunting also and getting left out of the loop of what's

going on showed up with his shotgun and his fucking elmer fudd hat and was was upstairs doing something and when all this commotion broke out he went in the closet and hid so he like bumped into something in the closet so now we got another witness i didn't even know this fucking guy was there i'm like holy shit and i remember he had rosary beads in his hand and i he's in the closet pray basically and he's like and this guy robby's a drug addict and that guy Gino was a drug addict and both of them in and out of rehab and all this shit and so they were what do you call it like kindred spirits okay right and uh I was like you got to be fucking kidding me dude so Jeff didn't stop kept with asking questions I hit the guy a couple

more times maybe kicked him a couple times we took his phone right going through his phone And turns out by going through his phone, he's a DEA informant. He's got all these messages on the phone talking back and forth between people he's setting up buying drugs and his DEA handler. Oh, my God. This is getting worse and worse. This is fucking terrible, bro. But now I'm like, Jesus Christ.

And this guy's not giving it up. I didn't do it. I swear I didn't do it. Dude, please let me. go all this shit i'm like and this is going on for a minute now dude he's can't handcuffed down the ground his hands are purple right could i just fucking right there's no double i don't i didn't have a key you know how they they put them on you and then they lock them so they don't yeah get tighter and tighter yeah and he's squirming and he keeps getting locked oh my they keep ticking

tighter and tighter every time you move so uh yeah It got a little Harry. Then we're like, all right, this is what we're going to do. And we, like, write a script. We didn't write it, but, like, came up with a script because him and his girlfriend were thickest thieves. So he's doing bullshit together, right? So we came up with it.

We're going to call her and hold the phone to his ear and have him ask her, do you remember what I did with that money I got from Chris's the other day? Like, I don't remember exactly what it was. but, like, trying to get him to incriminate himself, right? And I think she knew, right? Like, he was like, and she's like, why are you asking me that?

What's going on there? You know what I mean? And then the phone got hung up, and it was like, all right. So now the police are being called. No, yeah, kind of, possibly, kind of. So then it was, I'm like, all right, we don't really have any option. We got to kill him and Gino. I'm like, dude, we can't, I mean, little, I mean, he shot the gun into the floor,

yeah, two, three, four times, like, word of this, who are we going to do? You know what I mean? We, we, we, we're going to go find the bullets. Right. Is that what we're going to do here? Knock the house down. What are we going to do, you know? And, uh, this is our conversation.

me Chris and Jeff with Chris and Jeff what are you going to do just pay him we'll just pay him to shut up and I'm like pay him to shut up huh I mean that's a better option than killing them right but there's got to be a different way to do like the and $10,000 we're going to pay $10,000 to not say anything. And I'm like, $10,000 that's like low ball in the shit. You know what I mean? Yeah, this guy's got you over.

And you take the $10,000 and still say something. So they fucking let me go. They just made me promise. And then like, again, with the suing. Yeah. Right. Oh, we're going to give him the $10,000. We're going to make them sign something with a lawyer saying that there's a lot of rumors

going on about an incident that happened between us and him. and in order to get the $10,000 he has to sign it that it was in fact just rumors and I'm like I want you just give me $10,000 if you guys leave so the problem goes away

so that's what they did right that's the plan the consensus that everybody came to and so like all right made the deal with Robbie who's on the floor handcuffed and, like, go ahead and uncuff them.

And I'm like, you give me handcuffs. Yeah. Where's the key? I don't know. I don't have a key. And I'm like, oh, man, you don't have a key? And he's like, no. And then the idiots that we are,

we couldn't, didn't know what to do. We didn't want anybody to leave by themselves to go get a key or whatever. and who has handcuffs anyway. I've never had a pair of handcuffs. Right. Not even sexy handcuffs, I don't think. Right.

So, um, no, we're actually holding him in positions and like pointing the gun at it, like trying to be like, okay. If we hold it like this, it won't ricochet. I mean, this guy, we're rolling him around on the floor. Hold it. I'm like, dude. This is just insanity. So the store, then it was.

Let's get another person involved, send Chris's wife to Chris's girlfriend at the time to the Army Navy store to buy us in handcuffs that has a set of handcuff key. And then come here, it's like, we're talking a two-hour round trip to do all this, right? And that's if there's lots of different handcuff keys. They're not all identical. And that was what ended up being. So for the next two hours, we're waiting on all this. There's five of us sitting in the bedroom all along the walls of the. bedroom with this guy in the middle handcuffed behind his back crying sitting there going like this

and everybody going it's going it's going to be okay it's going to be okay i mean it's not you didn't do it man he did steal the 25 grand from yeah yeah yeah yeah he admitted that uh he said that he didn't take that money that jeff must have took it and forgot about it and put it in his truck or something like but now everybody's so scared about going to prison for the rest of the lives over this shit that everybody's like even though we're in the right um everybody's just like trying to appease them you know what i'm just sitting there like you got to get me the fuck out here but again i don't have a driver's license i didn't drive there i'm stuck and i'm like this is fucking i can't wait to get out of here this is insane now we just involved chris's girlfriend right who's a stripper

in this she she's gonna want to know she was there for the she was there for the the a lie detector test and then just got sent to the Army Navy store in West Palm Beach to buy handcuff keys right and now has to drive to Jeff's house where we're all meeting up to go hunting right and I'm like

so now there's like way too many people involved and I was just like we're fucked we're fucked ended up you know right before the keys got there it was like all right man I promise I won't say nothing guys you know what I mean I'll

sign whatever paperwork you want just give me some money and all this kind of shit the handcuff keys somebody went outside got him from chris's girl uncuffed him his hands looked like they were about to fall off right it's been hours this is at like noon now it's like four in the afternoon um uh i'm the last person in the bedroom everybody else walks out and as we're walking out I look down and in a laundry basket is the is a 45 right pistol and I'm like so I reached it pull it out and let a few go into the ceiling and I was like remember what we talked about this stays between us right and everybody was good hey hey we all went downstairs and the dude what the fuck happened to my truck my whole fucking

side of my truck's taking off. I'm like, sorry about your luck, bro. I took like a hundred bucks and threw it on the floor. I was like, call fucking locksmith. I don't know what the fucking tell you. And I drew out of there and never fucking looked back and tried to never talk about it again. And then, shit, three, four years later. That's right. I got to rest for that four years later. Let's go back because right now you're still at the first clinic. Yes. How long are you at the first clinic before you guys realized like this. this is a this is a fucking mistake like we got to get to a bigger clinic like this is a this is started march in march by we stayed there all the way until august and when when by the time

we're at august okay seeing a hundred a hundred a day hundred people a day they have the entire the patients when i say they i mean the patients have the entire neighborhood in Wilton Manors on Oakland Park Boulevard from Andrews to I-95 just being held hostage. They're destroying the entire, I mean, they're eating and running at every restaurant. They're ODing in every restaurant, convenience store.

They're having sex, pippet hose, stealing in parking lots, they're passing out, they're overdosing, they're using drugs, they're destroying the bathrooms everywhere, everybody's pissed at us. They're going into like that, like they're going into other businesses and saying, hey, can I use the restroom real quick and going in and then doing, and then passing out.

So then the owner comes like 20 minutes an hour late, knocks on the door, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, and the guy's packed out on the toilet. Yeah. Needle in his arm, all the whole nine, blood spurts everywhere. So, at first, when we first got there, you know, we made friends with everybody in the neighborhood, all the other businesses, right next to us. Literally, we shared a driveway with a Christian radio station. Horrible.

Right? So these Christian radio station people will come in for their shift at 5.30 in a morning or whatever. I know you usually have a morning show, right? You got a morning show, a midnight show, whatever it is. and all of our, 70% of our patients were from Kentucky, West Virginia, Ohio. They would drive down 18 hours, 20 hours, 22 hours, get there at 3 in the morning, 4 in the morning, whatever, just pulling a parking lot and camp out until we opened in a morning.

So, and they don't know any better. They're not spitefully, they'd have to be idiots to like be spitefully causing problems. with these other businesses, right? Because all that's going to do is draw attention to them, but they just don't know any better. Right, right? So the late or the early morning show would show up for the Christian radio station

and there's three people in sleeping bags outside of their old car. There's two people fucking in there in the car. There's two other people fucking in their bushes. Somebody took a shit on the sidewalk. There's needles all over the place. they pissed everybody off, you know? And then I start, at first it was funny to me, right?

And then it started to piss me off, you know what I mean? So like I had a good relationship for the first three, four, five months with the patients, but then they would cause me so much grief, you know what I mean? And I'd be like, why can't, in my head, I couldn't accept the fact that they were junkies, right? And they have a junkie mentality. right and like I just couldn't understand how you couldn't act like a normal person where I like to get fucked up too right but not every single move that I make is a fucking shit bag you know what I mean like dude control yourself right don't shit on sidewalks

right are we fucking talking about the end of the world like don't shit on sidewalks That's it, right? You guys used to call them zombies or something? I mean, I'd call them all. I would call them zombies, bangers. Like, I, you know me. They just wandered around. You know me for a while?

I just make, I, everybody's got a nickname, you know what I mean? Like, so every day it would be something else. We went through so many phases of names and all that kind of stuff. And it started to get really stressful, but so much money that was coming in. It was like, so at a certain point, probably six, eight months into it like Chris you didn't see him anymore right he just didn't want to deal with he didn't want nothing to do with it diana would wanted to deal with the pharmaceutical companies and the MRI companies and stuff like that so it was basically left to me and a couple of my my friends

to deal with all the patients and interactions and the paperwork and all that kind of stuff you know and um but i mean we still i i remember that the news who came and wanted to do an interview with us and we're like, what in the fuck? And this is at the first clinic? This is at the first clinic. This little shitty place. I think it was after the

after the pillbillies go home, the picture of them all waiting outside. So we get there, literally get there at 7.30. And there are 60 people lined up outside. It goes down the front of the building, down the stairs, down the driveway, and around the corner blocking the Christian radio station. Literally standing there, nodding out, scratching her neck, smoking cigarettes, drinking aleates, mountain dews, people falling down.

Like, we would get that, it'd be fucking, you'd see the crowd start to stir as we pull up, you know. You'd be like, I can't, well, this is getting crazy. You know what I mean? It was, it was a lot to take in, you know? And the film crew, shut up. Yeah, so the film, the news, they did a. piece in the sun sentinel front page of sunscental all a picture telling what's going on here and at this point also that had came from all the neighbors calling and being like what the

fuck is going on here with these crazy people um so the tv station sees it and they want to do an interview and we're like we're oblivious we're like what you want to do an interview with us i'm like yeah chris do you want to do an interview he's like yeah come in Right? So they come into our little area. It's like a little 400 square foot area, right? Just a square. You got Chris on this side, Diane on this side,

refrigerator here, a table. We were basically grown children also, all of our toys, cans of mace, brass knuckles, throwing knives, throwing stars, kids clubhouse, beer, normal medical clinic stuff right just this is a joke you know what i mean like we were at this point six months in we're like there's no way they're going to let us stay you know what i mean something's gonna this is just it's crazy money right something's going to happen the cops are going to come and we're going to say i don't know man i just work here right right i don't know so uh

So they want to do an interview and we're like, well, whatever, Chris is like, yeah, come in. And he's like sitting there basically at a desk like this. This is basically a,

you know, you buy this at a office furniture store type desk, right? There's a laptop open, probably some, something stupid on the screen. He's got, um,

we had some kind of stupid party. There's like balloons floating behind them. You know what I mean? If you, cans of mace, big cans of mace sitting on the table mow the dog the pee-pee and poo-poo pad on the floor beer cans diana with her tits out right tits like this right and i'm sitting there watching chris do the interview and they're asking him about pain management and stuff and you could tell

he's like all this is is a business to chris i buy the pills for $1. I sell the pills for $2, right? Just a blip, you know what I mean? And they're like, so why do you feel that there's a need for some place like this? Pain is a big problem right now. I'm just doing what I can to help the situation out.

Like the people are looking at each other that are filming and I'm like, oh my God. And Chris is looking at me like, you know what I mean the boat they just it's just about people helping people

yeah just trying to help it was ridiculous right and uh we watched it on the news and we were laughing

so hard about the damn balloons floating in the background like a the building was built in 1920 something or so I didn't even know

that that area was like developed at that time that's how old there's no air conditioning there's no I think when it was built there was like

a septic tank it used to be outdoor plumbing at one point this building you know um so that was really funny you know and um so now all the people around us are pissed we're in a newspaper we're on tv carmel kaffera snooping around people are acting like all of a sudden people are asking questions that like I felt like I was being set up you know what I mean like all of a sudden people would walk up to me and be like hey man look and they pull five grand out like how many pills can I get for five grand I'm like listen that's kind of like breaking the deal that we have here I'm an idiot

you're an idiot you're in pain you're coming to the doctor I just work here right why would you do that why would you put me in a position like we got a good thing going you're already coming here getting 240 pills at $240 and going to Kentucky and selling 240 pills minus the 40 you probably take on the way home for $40. So that's $8,000. Why do we have to push it? Why? Yeah, play the game.

What do you do? Why are we doing this? Why do you think that we know you've been here twice? You've came for two appointments. You've probably been here a few more times just bringing other people already making things. look suspicious and then you see me having a cigarette outside and you feel like you're we're good enough friends for you to come up and offer me $5,000 for pills which I would do 15 years for in the state 180 pills is like 15 15 years or something like that I'm like dude

get the fuck out of here you're going you're not a patient anymore you know what I mean it started to get like that and um that was my take on it right right right And then Chris had the other take on it. You know what I mean? Don't trust them. Don't be an asshole to them. Right. Because they're every one, every month.

That's $1,000 every month, each one of those people. So don't go looking for a reason to throw them out. You know what I mean? If they do something, just talking to you isn't a reason. Right. If they fucking rob the fucking podiatrist next door or do, you know what I mean? And throw them out. If they overdose.

Yeah, cause a scene. They get in a fight with another patient. Don't be looking into it because it got to the point I was getting aggravated and I was looking. Now I know because the doctors made us start getting MRIs and shit. Now I'm like becoming the learned medical professional that I am, right? Now I know what's up, right? I know about the thoracic, the thoracic, the thoracic, the lumbar, the cervical, all the different types of MRI. I got all the wordage down.

I even know. I even had that damn language at the pharmacist, right? You know, the E backwards and all that kind of stuff that tell you minus this, right? It's like shorthand. You know what I mean? I even had all that. I had it all figured out.

And before I had that all figured out one day, I'm sitting there, checking people in in the morning. Black guy comes in, wife beat her. dreads built you know what i mean like you know not huge but small very cut right gold chain pants sagging got a white girl driving them right comes in gives me mri i got an MRI got an MRI look at it they have to have uh had the mri had to be within two years so every two years you got to get a new MRI. So as long as this MRI was dated less than two years ago, the review of it, I could see it.

So this is the very, this is why I started learning, right? I was told, the doctor said, we need to have an MRI CT scan something. They told me what it needed to be. I didn't know that I needed to read it and know what that meant. Right. So he hands me the MRI, look at it, check the dates. Yep, that's a real MRI place, plantation, open. It says on there.

Looks good to me. Fill this out. Let me make a copy of this MRI. Fill it out. All right. Give me your 200 bucks. Go have a seat. Now, also, mind you, word has gotten around about this place, right?

I've actually had, at this point, I've actually had friends that I haven't seen in 10 years that I met in my time in South Florida, show up, not knowing that I have anything to do with it. and they don't have any connections to each other, right? But they would just randomly show up. Actually, somebody from my hometown in New York, upstate New York, I haven't seen him since he was in seventh grade and I was a senior in high school, shows up.

And the only reason I knew who it was, because I saw the name and I was like, hey, did, oh, yeah, oh, my God, I didn't know this was your place. Everybody collectively, all these different people that I knew in the past, haven't seen for a long time, show up here. um not by any conspiracy or just they randomly show up not knowing each other nothing everybody's name for the place was the dope hole right so the street was calling the place the dope hole right i was like oh that's pretty fucking cool you know what i mean you're like dude i didn't know

you had anything to do with the dope hole man that's crazy last time i saw you you were a plumber last time I saw you were building houses now you run the dope hole, right? God, that's horrible. Right? I'm like, wow, that's fucking insane. That is, that's the beginnings of someone who's going to go to jail for running the dope hole. So what was I talking about? So where, okay, so the MRI,

so the guy comes in, the black guy comes in, the dreads, the whole thing, the belt, the pants hanging down, the fucking underwear hanging out, gives me the MRI, everything looks like good on it, put his file together, gives me a 200 bucks, have a seat. 20, 30 minutes, hour. I don't know how long he was there. It was always a long wait. Got two doctors.

Dr. Joseph, Dr. Giddz. Put his file, Dr. Joseph's thing. I'm sitting there, out there fucking around. Everybody's checked in, whatever. I get called to Dr. Joseph's office. Hey, he goes. I go in on, what's up, Doc? The guy's sitting there in the chair like this.

There's nothing wrong with this guy. this guy could probably fucking kick everybody's ass in the place, right? Nothing wrong. It's 22. Looks like he should be playing in the NBA, right? Right.

So, Dr. Joseph Grazofile brings me out in there. He's like, what are you doing? I said, what do you mean? What am I doing? Do you even, are you even reading them or I? I said, yeah, I'm reading it. I don't fucking have any idea what it means.

Right. Right? I'm reading it. This way. told me to do. I want you to read this, what it says? Conclusion at the very bottom of your MRI report. It'll say conclusion. I read it. He says, read it out loud to me. It says, patient has a small tear in the uterine wall. And I just keep reading. Right. What does that mean to me? It doesn't mean nothing if I would have stopped and thought about it. But I didn't think that's where

he was going you know what I mean I wasn't I just read it out loud and he's sitting there looking at me he goes he opens the door and he goes look at him I look at him goes is that fucking guy look like he's got a uterus oh it clicks with me I'm like oh shit right sorry doc goes I'm going out here to get a drink go he drank Diet Coke all day I'm going to get a Diet Coke get him the fuck out of here I go in there, I'm like, come with me, buddy. I didn't want to say nothing. You know what I mean?

I didn't want any beef back there. Whatever. I said, come with me, man. You're all good. We walk outside. I let it. We had a magnetic door to the, you know, you got to get buzzed in. Yeah.

You can open it from the inside. I open it. I close the thing. I go back around to the window. And I'm like, hey, dude, listen, go get a real MRI. This isn't your MRI. You cut and paste it. You know what I mean?

I'm like, just go get a real MRI. real one i'll put you with a different doctor he's like i was like you just got me in trouble i don't fucking know right right he's like give me my money back i'm like i'm not giving your money back like you saw the doctor yeah i got to pay a doctor not giving your fucking money back i was like go get it i wrote him a script i had wrote scripts on one of the doctor's script made like a thousand copies of it right so you gave him a script i would give it to him at and a place to go get the MRI. It's like, just go get it.

Your money's good, right? But I'm not giving your money back. This motherfucker went off, went and got his boys, came back with a gun. All kinds of shit. He's screaming in a waiting room. I know what this place is, motherfucker. And the girls are like, Diana's like, we got to call the cops or something.

I'm like, whatever, call the cops. And he's like, yeah, call the cops. I'm going to fucking tell him what's going on here. And this and that. and the cops end up coming and I'm like, dude, this guy had a fucking gun out here. I'm like, what, by that time, the gun was going,

whatever, I'm like, listen, man, here's the deal. I said, I told the guy, I was like, listen, if the cops come, you're going to go to jail for a fucking fake medical paperwork. Right. Right? I'm like, dude, don't calm down, dude. But he's a junkie.

They're not thinking clearly. He wasn't, this guy wasn't a junkie. He was selling the pills. You know what I mean? And he was asking, at that time, in the black community, that the few black people that came in there, all they know is percissettes.

And all they know is the big ones, the 10-650s. You got 10-3-25s, 10-6-50s. The 10-3-25s are a little teeny yellow pill, right? It's 10 milligrams of oxy, 325 milligrams of Tylenol. The 650s are twice the size. They're 10 milligrams of oxy.

Their same amount of active ingredient, just more Tylenol and one but that's all they know right right so I'm like listen man I'm trying to give you 30 milligram ones fuck that

I want my fucking perks that I want the yellow they call them yellow bombs or yellow banana and it's like like I really like I said this is not my world you know what I mean

it pain pills you get when you go to the dentist right i don't know the difference between the greens and the blues but i know that you got two different types of percissettes or you got a 30 milligram which is no Tylenol it's just fucking 30 milligrams of i you know what i mean and trying to explain this to them they're wanting to fight so but anyway the guy i try to pull him aside before the cops got there i'm like listen dude if the cops come i have to give them this paperwork you're going to go to jail right dude dude and he's like i'm not fucking leaving i'm you're gonna give me though you're gonna give me

my money back and i'm gonna tell the police what this place is you know what this and at this time too the cops didn't know what it was yeah we're a licensed clinic yeah the cops you're showing up here trying to trying to jip and you're you have handed us a fake fake medical MRI with your name saying you got a uterus that's kind of tearing it stop being fucking stupid dude i'm not going to give you your money back and by this time he's caused such a a scene the cops are underway Dr. Joseph comes out and he's like give him his fucking money back and I'm like

at this point I'm not fucking giving him his money back right right I'm not giving him his money back I gave I ended up giving him his money back I'm like get out of here he's like fuck that cops are coming fuck that okay okay go outside I ended up holding him outside with a can of mace stay out here till the cops get here

him and his girl he's driving a old cop car right right and i'm like this is fucking ridiculous stand him out there i got him at fucking mace point and uh the cops come and of course they take him over there and i'm like standing there they want to see our medical license and all that shit i'm talking to him and they're like well what happened and i'm like listen this is what happened he slipped his paperwork slipped through i didn't want to tell him that i'm a fucking idiot right i'm like somehow his paperwork slipped through he should you know he's got a cut and paste MRI whatever like an hour goes by whatever they go well we're going to arrest him do you want to trespass him and I was like yeah yeah I guess

so they got him to back to the cop car and um I had to go over there and tell him they told me his name or whatever and I had a there's a whole thing you have to do to trespass somebody right right and I And I'm like, I do that. And I'm like, dude, you are the stupidest fucking person. Over $200. You're the stupidest fucking person I have ever met. Don't ever let me see you again. My boys are going to come.

He's still screaming. His boys are going to come shoot us up. All that. I was like, oh, my, dude. So from then, it kind of got like, all right, we can't have scenes like that all the time. So I got to start up in my game and knowing what I'm doing. Right. Right?

I've had people hit me, pulling, life's on me, this guy, all this kind of, like, it doesn't bode well for getting doctors for inspections from the pharmaceutical companies, drawing attention to the police, from the police, all that kind of stuff. Right after that is when now the complaints are rolling into the police, right? They start harassed. The cops still don't know what's going on, right? They just know that a bunch of people are coming here from out of state.

they're causing trouble right they're getting calls all the time and the cops are just at this point the cops were just like me when i started there like they don't know what the fuck is going on they have no idea what the fuck is going on what's going it looks legitimate what these people are coming in they've got they've got medical paperwork they're paying a fee they're they go they see a doctor everybody's license well what's the issue so and then now you know cops got called a few different times. But I noticed that they like started they would make stupid statements. Like the cops would come and I'd be like, someone would call a copse because I kick somebody out or there would be a fight or something like that. And I'm like, look, man, here's the deal. This guy's

doctor shopping. I have proof here that here's the file. He's doctor shopping. I just don't want them in here. I don't want to arrest him. Whatever. Just whatever. And they'd be like, what the fuck is the problem with doctor shopping? This is the cop talking to me. And I'm like, oh my god and then chris would be standing behind me and he would fucking flip out he hates the police hate like chris and the police i don't know what it is that he's that stubborn but he always thinks he's going to win in a confrontation with the police and it never yeah right yeah i went in that like i've seen literally seen cops directing traffic and do something that he doesn't like and he'll fucking stop the car

and get out and yell at the cop we're telling them to stop or to go or whatever you know what I mean I'm like dude but anyway so now we've had a few confrontations of the police now the police are putting

they're investigating now right now they're pulling people over when they leave and harassing them pulling them out of the cars asking them questions wanting to you know just giving people over trying to scare

him out of the neighborhood kind of thing right Chris wasn't having that you know what I mean so a couple days of that and I remember it was my birthday so it was July 25th and uh no it was a little after my birthday

Dr. Gittins quit on my birthday Dr. Gittins quit on my birthday just couldn't take it anymore just said I'm just No Dr. Giddens had her brother as her assistant right and he would come to work every day and just sit there and watch and after a couple months I started noticing him

looking at price lists looking at invoices all this kind of stuff and paying attention to how many people we saw in a day doing the calculation she saw 35 people today at $75 a patient

they charge $200 the pills Chris gives her $2,000 a month to use her medical license to order the pill pills, we just got in 12,000 pills. Right. Right.

They're selling them for $2.000. I see them doing these calculations. She randomly comes in and quits one day. They set up their own place. Right across the street. We had billboards on I-95 and the turnpike. One mile east of I-95 on Oakland Park Boulevard. They went a half a half.

mile east of i-night you know what i mean so that not only did they steal our business model now they're using our own advertisement to steal but whatever for whatever reason there's never we walked in one day i saw it open right didn't know it was her me and chris walked in there like who the fuck is this and it was her and her brother and we were like whatever you know what i mean whatever no big deal because she, she did something. Oh, we got a, the DEA came in and did it, or no, the health department came in and did an inspection. So when the doctors were writing their scripts,

they wouldn't fill the script out if you were filling in-house. They would just write on it. They'd take their script, right? 180, Roxy, give me the file. I would take the file. Give it to Diana or whoever was in our little pharmacy area. you got the whole file so she has all their information it's not on the script right has all their information punch it in a computer print out the label fill the script give it to the people

staple the script that's not filled out into the file put the file back on a file cabinet so we knew next time they came what they got but no names on there right so it's just signed scripts with the amount of pills on there, with the doctor's signature. She was leaving that up to me to fill that in, and I didn't know. Again, I had no idea. So the health department shows up one day,

wants to go through our files, go through our books. We let them go through there, and I see them pulling all these scripts out, right? No idea what the problem is. He leaves. A month later, they show up with a complaint from the medical department against her.

She got ended up for all. all those scripts that she just signed and didn't fill out completely. And she lost her license for 30 days, 60 days, something like that. So that was like a catalyst for her leaving. And as soon as her license came back, she opened one up right next to us, right? But so to go back to when we had a move. So the cops are really putting pressure on us, right? They're even sending the fire department in to check occupancy, right?

They're sending the firemen in trying to shut us down because of the handles on the doors. They can't be a knob. They have to be a lever, right? Stuff like that. And like, just giving us a hard time trying to shut us down for an hour while I go to Home Depot. Right. And get a lever handle, right? There's not enough journals or there's not enough.

You know what I mean? Just dumps. There's no eye wash. Right. In the bathroom. You don't have up-to-date safety kits. Your, uh, our, uh, first aid kits. Your, uh, fire extinguishers expired, right?

Just shit like that. And the cops pulling everybody over. They leave our clinic, make a U-turn at Andrews to go back to 95, and the cops would just wait for them to make the U-turn. Pull more, pull them over. One day Chris had enough, jumps in a car with some patient that's all fucked up. on pills, right? And pulls out, the cop sees Chris getting a car with him, right?

So he's like, oh, I got him. They're going to make a deal or something, whatever. I can imagine that's what the cop does. So, but Chris is already on the phone with a lawyer, has the lawyer on speaker. Cop pulls him over. They start arguing Chris's saying harassment. I know my rights. You can't do this.

Can't do that. I'm on the phone with my lawyer. I need your badge number. I want your lieutenant here, all this shit. The cop's like, shut up and hang the phone up. Well, I do my investigation because you're, uh, whatever it's called. Impeding. Impeding.

Yeah, yeah. Chris doesn't, the guy just arrest him, tells the other guy, get out of here, arrest Chris, right? He goes, sits in Broward County jail for the night, pick him up, get to work the next day. Oh, you know, business is usual, like it never happened. He went right from jail to work. By 10 o'clock, he was like, all right, we're moving. This was a Thursday. We went back to work on Friday.

I just got a new place, four or five miles from here. We're moving over the weekend. Don't make any plans for the weekend. Different county? No. We were on, that was Oakland Park. We moved three miles to Cypress Creek Boulevard to a huge, it's like a double E. It's like a business park, right?

the building shaped like two E's put together butt to butt right so you know they have offices like there was like some kind of computer office there was like a hundred people with customer service with a desk and a head for you know what I mean so he ran in a place that was occupied that was going to people were going to be leaving but he told the people that we had to have some place in the meantime we had

and they said well we got this smaller say we were renting 12,000 square feet, we got eight over here that you can move in temporarily, right? So over the weekend, we literally built a triage. It was just a giant, no offices, no nothing, a giant warehouse like carpeted, air-conditioned place. We went to Home Depot and bought panel board and two-by-fours, nailed them to the floor, put the panel board on it, move all our chairs, bought another 50 chairs, and we were open our Monday morning without and then it just blew up even further but now instead of being like on a busy street we got unlimited parking right tons of parking but just all businesses insurance company right

next to our us was all state right all state office just a little satellite office next to that we're not talking customer service but not in-person customer service businesses right right these are all call centers yeah right insured they don't get customers right it's all whatever so we we moved in there over the weekend it was the beginning of august and of 2008 or something like that and uh then it just that we were seeing call it 100 patients a day for the first six months within two or three weeks of being there at this huge place we're talking we're 200 220 a day just could not there would if I didn't stop taking patients in at a certain time we'd be there all night every night we could be open 24 hours a day that's how insane it was and it was

literally when I say we built the walls at a panel you know that material that's like in between plywood and cardboard just used a little teeny nails yeah right that's all that's how it was on one side you'd see the panel board on the other side was raw two by fours right so we made an L shape across the middle of it and set doctors up in little we moved to the second office after those issues is like at that end of the first office when we had it you know started having issues

with the police the neighbors the news all that kind of stuff it like got stressful you know and we got the new place and we're busy the triage looking place you know it got like fun again for a little while you know what I mean like we were fucking around

all the time just you know drinking at the office again not really worried just we moved and i knew it was eventually going to be a problem with all the neighbors you know just because again how fast it was growing now we're up to 160 180 200 people a day you know and i'm i'm looking out the window you know what i mean i see what the fuck's going on out in the parking lot and you know again we're adult children you know Instead of hiring real security guards, you know,

we're hiring the homeless guy on the corner that comes and washes his cars with newspapers. You know what I mean? Put a staff shirt on him. He shows up in sweatpants, a cowboy hat, our staff shirt and cowboy boots. You know,

no teeth in his mouth. Give him a walkie-talkie that he doesn't have any idea how to use. He just fucking yells at it. um uh it's you know it's it's it was fun though what i'm trying to say is again it was fun and we were doing fun stuff you know uh that's when we started we need more employees so we started doing the uh put the ad on craigs list send picture only i know i know all of a sudden somebody must have read my book are something along those lines and now they're claiming all of a sudden all the stuff that we did 15 years ago now that's what uh everybody else i don't know clout

chasing or whatever they're doing um it is telling these stories um but we put a uh receptionist needed for a busy pain clinic no resume needed picture only and um only reason that you know just that's how we were you know what I mean it was it was fun we were making a lot of money just fucking around buddies hanging out together you know

we're taking it seriously because of the amount of money but you know there was no it was weird because there was no pushback you know what I mean like well the cops are but once we moved oh for like once we moved it was like

You had a few months. Yeah, we had a few months. It was just fun. You know what I mean? Just fucking around. We're hiring new doctors and having fucking food fights and throwing Chinese stars at each other. And just basically fucking around. I hired a bunch more of my friends, you know what I mean, to work there.

It was just like a boys club. And we decided to, you know, let's get some hot chicks around here so we can fuck them at work and shit like that. and so that's what we did we did uh send picture only and we would go through them and pick out the guy I mean the women would some women would be like what the fuck is this a modeling agency I thought it was a doctor's office right and then other chicks she can't work here right and like no picture they would send that email and then the next one would send us a fucking shoot with her in it and then another one it would be a Hawaiian tropic shoot modeling pictures

and then you know you get some other ones what the fuck do you need my picture for you know whatever so it wasn't like we fucking spent it was just like a funny thing you know what I mean just whatever we'd look at a couple every now and then

and we'd set up interviews be like all right you know we'll set up Tuesdays and Thursdays from we open at 730 get everything open and then we could start you know fucking with chicks

from 9 to 11 on Tuesdays and Thursday. So we would pick out a couple good-looking women and set up the interviews. We have like two, Tuesday and two Thursday or whatever. And whatever. We hired a couple of them. You know, it was just, it wasn't anything. It was just whatever.

But where that comes into play is the fact that that's kind of where, we realized we were being looked at by the feds because on I just met two girls on a Tuesday our our sake call it Tuesday I met with two girls whatever me and Chris fucking joked around with them whatever we got the phone out whatever whatever whatever however it worked and then on Wednesday morning um we're opening up and by this time I hired Tito the 400 pound Puerto Rican as a security guard to go along with a homeless cowboy who I hired him because when I was hiring security guards they were all showing up with their fucking pants tucked into their fucking boots and their mag lights and they're you know what I mean

they're crisp fucking uniforms ready to crack heads on all the patients that I'm like dude these guys just aren't going to work here you know right and I hired Tito who showed up in a full security guard uniform. The thing was the bottom were Wacken Hut. The top was top flight security. You know, all black pants with a gray, black pants with a gray stripe on them, a red shirt with a yellow stripe on it,

with top flight security, a hat, a whistle. You know, 300 pounds had to take a bus from Miami to get there. You know, he was more interested in the free lunches. You know, I was like, this guy's perfect. Again, I'm a golf cart. He sits out there. You know what I mean? Anyway, Tito came to me.

Like, we opened at 7.30. So 7. I'm there. I had the security guys come in early to keep the patients occupied and kind of under control in a parking lot. I didn't want the police there or any complaints before we even opened, you know. And he came and said, hey, Derek, one of the girls is here. for the interview. And I was like, dude, it's Wednesday.

There's, I don't have any interviews today. That's Tuesdays and Thursday. See, what are you talking about? I don't know. She's out here. Says she's got to set up with you. She's here to see you. And again, it was like, it was right when we opened.

So I would never, I would be 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock, whatever, once I got everything. I'm like, whatever. He kept bothering me. And I was like, fine, Tito. I get up and I go into this little, we had like a little break room. so the building you could go the front entrance was here back entrance was here when you go in the back entrance there was like a little reception area right and we use that for like our breaks and shit whatever to eat lunch we set up a buffet on the

on the table and I'll go back there and there's 40 something blackish Jamaican scars like the whatever they do I don't know the tight not tight but long um dreads yeah dreads but like you know like the bahama style you know what i mean like braided not yeah yeah yeah like not just let it go right you know a little and i'm like can i help you and she was like yeah i'm here for the interview we set up an interview and i'm like looking at her and i'm like we hired her fucking 18 year old escorts and strippers right you know what i mean i didn't not saying that she was bad looking or anything like that but It's not what we were, we wouldn't, Chris wouldn't have done it and I wouldn't done it.

I'm like, I think you got something screwed up. I'm like, no, and she was arguing with me about it. You know what I mean? And I'm like, listen, kick rocks. I'm not hiring anybody. I'm like, I don't know what you're doing here, you know? And she again said, what is this, a fucking modeling agency? She made some kind of slick comment like that.

And then also made a slick comment about all of the employee, the only people that were there, really, in the back where the door she went was the employee cars. So you got Range Rover, BMW, Mercedes, Corvette, you know what I mean, just all Lexus. And she was like, what, and what is going on here with these, something all, about the nice cars, you know what I mean? They're all high-end, luxury cars. Something along the lines of nurse practitioners or fucking nurses or something like that, and I was like, whatever. we're in here out the other that's it whatever didn't never thought about it again and mind you this is the beginning of the new office we're having fun we're just fucking enjoying herself

bringing refrigerators full of beer and all that kind of shit having for there's no stress right we got all the room we need you know i can keep everybody inside it's fun it's fun again the very next day so say it's that say that was a Wednesday on Thursday um Tito comes back in 730 hey Derek that lady's back again

and I'm like what lady the lady that you know said she had an interview yesterday and I'm like well get rid of her he's like I can't she brought her friends with her this time and I fucking turn around and look and it's her and like 15 DEA agents with their fucking badges out sitting there I'm like oh shit she goes shut it down you're closed for today this is an inspection

and I'm like wow okay get all the doctors out here right now and I'm like the doctors don't call me until I ate there's just me it was like me Chris like three of the three or four people that worked all my buddies right you know what I mean and a couple of the chicks that we actually hired. You know what I mean? And they're like, round everybody up. We want everybody in here.

I need to see your IDs. One of the girls that we hire was like, fuck you, pig. I ain't showing you my fucking ID. Her family was gangsters from New York or something. She's telling you, bro. Fuck you. I don't fuck with the, I'm like, oh, my God.

And they're like, come in here, sit down. We're going to interview everybody, shut the pharmacy down, open up the safe. they had all this paperwork and all warrants and shit you got your DE agents that are dressed like administration

administrative types in suits and ties and then you've got DE agents that are dressed like me or dress in corduroy barrel like they just came from a fucking corn concert you know what I mean

the hair the fucking hat on just spread out and I think maybe one or two doctors were there like setting up in their little makeshift offices and they're like, we need all the doctors out here and I'm like, fuck, I don't want them

to talk to the doctors, right? You're going to lose the doctors. Yeah. So I'm like sneaking around. Bobosher's, Enoch Joseph, maybe one other, maybe Dr. Silk.

got caught up in it but then i snuck out the door right i was like oh i'm going to get the doctors i went out the front door and grabbed my cell phone and started calling the other doctors dr blitz the treasures started calling i'm like don't fucking come in right just do not fucking come in i snuck back inside they had everybody separated at chris in one room they had me and all the got all my guys in another room and then they were taking the doctors one at a time like four people, four DEA guys to interview one person, you know, one doctor and then like with me and my guys like the just regular staff, you know, it would be like two of them. They were bringing in a room and stuff and I got the one girl fucking locked herself in the

bathroom who was like, fuck you, I'm not coming out. I'm not giving you my ID. I'm like, oh, man, you know what I mean? And it kind of like calmed down. And my girlfriend at the time, she was. was the pharmacy tech she's the one who filled all the scripts right and uh she had a daughter so she would come in a little bit late because she had dropped her daughter off at daycare so i called her i'm like don't fucking come in here you know what i mean because they're gonna fucking

go after her too you know i was afraid she was gonna fucking crack you know what i mean she's got her fucking uh took a six hour class online to be a pharmacy tech you know what i mean kind of kind of deal and i'm like do not fucking come in so she didn't come in and And then they're trying to get, she's the one who had the keys to the safes and stuff. And they're like, where is she? We need, I'm like, I don't know, man. I can't get them fucking safes open. I don't know what to tell.

I don't want them going in. You know what I mean? I don't have any idea what we don't have, we haven't been keeping any records. I mean, who knows who's been stealing and, you know what I mean? I don't know what. So eventually I had her come and give me the keys and, like, meet me. Right. Around the corner or something.

I stuck out. I got it open. They were going through there. They're in there talking to Chris. Got the doctor separated. They put, oh, now, first thing, I didn't, again, I don't have a driver's license, and I'm on felony probation, not even supposed to be in Fort Lauderdale, right? So the first thing they said to me was, I need to see your driver's license.

And I said, I don't have a driver's license. They go, hmm, that's kind of funny, Mr. Nolan. We saw you, and like, how did they know my, name. You know what I mean? They were like foreshadowing that this isn't random. You know what I mean? That's kind of funny. Mr. Nolan, you don't have a driver's license yet. We saw you pull up in that brand new Mercedes about 30 minutes ago. From across the street, we saw you. Are you driving without a license out of the county you're supposed to be in and on felony probation? And I was like, oh, look. And I'm immediately going. Sounds bad when you say it. Yeah. Immediately.

I'm going, okay, how much time am I going to probably like six months, right? It's going to be probably a month for the violation or probation. It's all as it is is violate. There's no felonies here. You know what I mean? All of this is like three violations a month apiece. Probably be out in like four or five months.

And I'm like, ah, man, I guess, you know what it is? Here's my ID card. You know what I mean? I'm like, it is what it is. Fuck, you got me. You know what I mean? And how do you have a Mercedes? You bought a Mercedes.

by then yeah yeah yeah because you're making pretty good money yeah yeah it's actually jeffs gave it to me it was jeffs i got i bought it from jeff so uh um yeah it's not registered to me or nothing like that you know so then again i'm like oh they fuck they know my name or whatever so uh eventually it like calmed down a little bit right and they were just going now they're going through files right and we're all sitting there all the pay people just keep coming the front doors locked the whole front parking lot's full of people out there like fucking pacing and scratching their neck and falling into seizures from fucking not having their Xanax and I'm like whole shit dude um it got to be lunchtime and uh we

one of the fun things I guess that we always did to keep them calm because we had a guy that would go to the movie theater and video fucking movies pirated pirated movies and put them on a DVD and so these people will come down from Kentucky and I don't know at that time Batman with the Heath Ledger Batman yeah right the dark the dark night uh Rambo the new Rambo where he's in Cambodia or whatever the hell it is um we had those movies and I would play him on all day like every two weeks the guy would come back and sell me another thing of brand new movies that they those fucking people ate that up you know what I mean it kept him calm while they're waiting to see the doctor awesome so like calm down a little bit came lunchtime

they had talked to bo-bosher's i remember already and uh we were just i was like all right so what are you arresting us what are you guys doing what's what's the plan here and they're like just hang you know how they do it just hang tight i don't know i'm just here backing up i'm doing this i'm doing that you know what i mean i don't i don't even know what's going on man i usually deal with gang members and and cartels i don't know what's going on you know just trying they're digging they're looking for something you know what i mean and they're just trying to keep us calm because now it's getting to the point like all right you came in you saw you talked to all of us now get the fuck out or whatever yeah and i'm still looking at the corner of my eye

and seeing all these fucking people waiting outside right every every two minutes you're open you're going to open everybody's calling me the other doctors are calling i'm like dude you're making i'm making i'm when they called me in the dea called me in to talk to me they're Like, where are the other doctors, Derek? Where's Dr. Blets? Where's Dr. Cadet? Where's this? And I'm like, I don't know.

It's weird. They just didn't show up today. Oh, you know, they make, what, $5,000 a day? Just decide not to show up and not call, huh? Dr. Soli. Oh, that's kind of weird, right? And I'm like, it's almost like somebody told him not to come in. And I'm like, I don't know what to say, dude.

What do you want me to say? so it got like lunchtime and I'm like dude I'm fucking starving do you guys want lunch and I like made a mistake I reached in my pocket and I pulled out a fucking wad of cash like it didn't even dawn on me you know what I mean I just fucking and it was a lot of money right and the reason I had that much money was because I was about to give Dr. Graham the deposit $4,000 deposit for my girlfriend's tits so he was coming in that day. And I had all this cash on me in my pocket And I'm like Fuck, I didn't get I was gonna order a fucking pizza that in 2008 It was $9, you know what I mean? And I just, I was like shit

And I saw them all fucking Like they, you know what I mean? I was like, damn it. So they got done with Dr. Boschers And he's like, dude, what do we do? I'm like, I don't know. I was like, you want to watch a movie? He's like, I mean, I guess.

So I pulled out the bootleg Rambo. Me and him sat there and watched the whole fucking fucking rambo movie and they were i noticed they were back in the back with dr joseph for a long time and then in all about three o'clock they came out dr joseph came out with like four of them behind them and we're like blocking him from us and like escorted him to the door into his car and like wouldn't let him have any contact with us or talk to us or anything like that And they came back in and they were like, Dr. Joseph has voluntary surrendered his medical license

to avoid future prosecution. You're free to go about business, but we're taking all the medication in the safe because you don't have it. We didn't know at the time each doctor had to have their own safe. So every doctor's medication was. So we're taking it all. They took hundreds, probably 100,000,

pills between the Xanax, the oxy 30s, the oxy 15. We just got on a delivery, and a delivery would come UPS boxes, huge boxes of pills that would come, you know, two, three times a week. We had something like six different distributors, and each doctor is allowed a certain amount of pills based on the size of that distributor. So one distributor, medical arts, may allow 6,000 pills per week. per doctor, right? And then you got another, it wasn't Pfizer,

but just say Pfizer, right, allows 16,000 pills per doctor per week. Or, you know what I mean? So we had all these coming just every day, another delivery for six different doctors, 20,000 pills per doctor from this one company. And then the next day it would be the other company. And that's how we really got head and shoulders above everybody. else because we had so many different pharmaceutical companies that would were willing to do business

because Chris would sit on a computer all day, researching and trying to find and contacting the people and setting up relationships with them and money was always there. And so that's why we were so much bigger than everybody else and we're allowed to grow so much because the money's not in a $200 first visit. The money is in buying a roxy 30 for a dollar and selling it for four dollars right 240 at a time per person right that's where your money's at so that was the thing so then they took emptied our safe out there's a big gun safe bowl pills think of how many pills you could fit in a gun safe they're this big right right um emptied that out and um so they took dr joseph's license they scared him he's the only one that they

scared, right? Said, listen, if you sign this, sign your medical license over, then, um, uh, you don't have to worry about future prosecution. Right. That means nothing, though. You know what I'm saying? Like that, like that, like that moment, that's just, um, some, some FBI agent. It's funny, like, like, my ex-wife gave up her mortgage license because, because an FBI agent said,

oh, well, you're no, you know, well, after this. investigation, you're no longer and I'll have a mortgage license. You might as well let that go. You'll never get another one. And so she let it go. And I'm like, you were never prosecuted. Everybody else kept their mortgage licenses and everything. You were never prosecuted.

And she's like, but that's what the, an FBI agent told me that doesn't mean anything. They're just assholes. Within three months, that doctor was calling one and $10,000 from me so he could fight to get his license back. And I'm like, dude, you sold us out. You voluntarily gave it up. You sold us out. You cost us.

I think it was, I think we figured it out it was $200,000,000 in pills, our cost that they took. So multiply that times for us. So it was a million dollars in pills they took that we can't get back because they scared him. And now he's calling me saying, and I know he's been here for close to a year now, making probably for the first couple months, $2,000 a day, by now he's probably making $4,000 a day, right? for six, eight months, and you need $10,000 for me. He was like, I knew something was. So 300,000 times, 200-some-odd working, that's over six.

On average, that's over $600,000 in a year. Yeah. I mean, those doctors were making, I think they figured it out. They were making like $3 to $4 million a year. I mean, whereas you're an ER doctor, it's a salary of $120, $1,000. Yeah, yeah, doctors don't make. And, and again, I'm sure there are doctors that make that kind of money, but legally, yeah, they have so kind of specialty where they have brain surgeons.

Small hands that can work on infants, hearts. Yeah, if you're probably, so if you're working on like, if you're like a spinal doctor or you're, what do they call, they've got doctors that do cancer or you're, like, those kind of, if you're saving people's life, if there's nobody else on a planet that can do what you do as a doctor, then you're making that kind of one. Plastic surgeon, even a great pasturgeon, maybe making half a million, maybe a million if you're in Beverly Hills. You're not curing.

I always said, it's like, dude, we're not curing cancer here. We're not doing any fucking experiments. We're not, there's no placebos in here. You know what I mean? What are we doing here? So, yeah, then everything kind of got hectic again. After they left, they took all that shit. And then another one of the doctors who avoided him, Dr. Blentz, he quits.

He's like, I'm done, I'm done. But remember, I was just explaining to you about how you order the pills, right? So he quits and never comes back. We've already got like three weeks of six different companies, distributors worth of pills coming for Dr. Blaine's right right they're already on the way it's already scheduled out and the orders are coming and there's no real record of him the only record of him working there is the power of attorney he signed over to Chris to order the pills for him right Chris still has it right so after that literally the next day say it was Thursday Chris like we're moving this weekend

I found a place up the street, right? So we were there August of December, right? That was it, four months there. He found a place on the airport right up to street on Cypress Creek, that little private airport there. We move, get that thing built down. On the airport or near the airport property. Oh, okay.

Right at Cypress Creek and Powerline. All right. Okay. Which Powerline is jog down there. It's job. You don't know what I'm talking about. You don't know South Florida, so you don't know what I'm talking about. No.

Okay. So on the airport. On the east coast of Florida, everything's a grid. Okay. You know what I mean? They're the same roads from West Palm Beach all the way down to Fort Lauderdale, basically. It's just a checkerboard. You got six roads going north-south, six roads going east-west, right?

Right. So, again, we moved like that. It may have taken maybe another week or something like that this time. We moved again, moved into another place. and this place was a little bit bigger a little bit different design this is where I brought the ice cream truck

because we had a we're closer to we're closer to civilization here right and we're but we're on airport property in like an industrial thing so there's a bunch of offices where people actually go right roofing companies

car dealership like there's people around right yeah and we had our own parking lot for our office um that was chain link fenced in so i had to have somebody out there in a morning directing people into the fenced in and park a certain way because the cops were now driving around looking for at-of-state plates right so i'm trying to counter that right and by now we're like into the um MRI thing where the MRI companies are warring to get your business. To get our business and sending lunches and this and that.

So I also used that fenced-in parking area for Pete and another MR. I think it was called Plantation MRI to bring their mobile units. This is where the mobile units came in. I was like, all right, I got this fenced-in area with a bunch of parking. So bring the fucking thing and park it in there. and people will come in. They won't have what they need. I'll give them a script.

They'll walk outside and in the parking lot, get their MRI and come back in. Right. So, again, that wasn't anybody else is who likes to read my books and study everything about me and try to become me. I don't know why they think that's ever going to happen, but unless they're, I don't know, whatever. That's what we did. That's not. And this is four years before anybody else was even doing the pain clinic thing, right? So we had that going on.

So we had two different MRI companies in our chain leak fenced off. We're actually fighting. We're competing at the pain clinic for MRI use, right? Trying to keep everybody under control. We had a Mr. Frosty ice cream truck that would come to the other office. and I was like, like I had to keep these people inside. Yeah, yeah.

Right? So, but they're always, oh, I need something to eat. I've been waiting here for three hours. I'm diabetic. I'm this.

I'm that. I got to go outside. They're just going outside to shoot up or smoke or whatever. It's not for any reason other than, it's not for any good reason. Yeah. Maybe one in a hundred is for a good reason, right?

So I was like, all right, should I get a damn hot dog cart? right should i do this should i do that i mean there was days and weeks that i would order a hundred pizzas and be like listen here's all you have your own pizza just stay in a fucking place right don't go outside so i made a deal with the ice cream truck i had a big giant ice cream all soft serve ice cream pretzels all that kind of shit so literally the first day i'm there um he shows up at 11 o'clock everybody goes outside gets an ice cream cone comes back

inside, whatever. I have lunch. The doctor starts seeing patients. One of the doctor says, Derek, is it Ash Wednesday? And I'm like, no. I don't even think it's Wednesday. Why? What's going on? Why does everybody have a brown dot on the middle of their forehead? And I'm like, what? I don't know.

I'm like, whatever, not paying too much attention to it. Then somebody else says, I go to bring some people back, and I see bringing back 10 at a time. I see three of them have a fucking brown dot. on their head. And I'm like, wonder what is going on? I probably, I went to Daryl, one of the guys at the window. And I'm like, dude, there's something. Why does everybody have these dots on their heads? And he's like, I don't know, man. So I stood back and I'm looking through the windows out there. And everybody's got vanilla chocolate swirl, soft serve ice cream cone, sitting in,

licking on their cones and doing their five-second nod-outs from being so high. dipping their foreheads into the ice cream cone and being so fucked up, they don't even realize they do it because you literally go on conscious for a minute. Right. So they took so many pills that they're dipping their fucking heads into their ice cream combs, don't even know it, go through a whole doctor's appointment, probably a drive back to Kentucky with fucking Mr. Frosty on their fucking forehead and never even realize it. And I was like, well, there you go.

So it was Mr. Frosty idea. No more fucking ice cream. No more ice cream for the patients. We'll just get a new vending machine with, get some extra large sticker bars or something in it. I mean, just insanity. How long is that clinic? That clinic lasted for two months.

Two months. After two months, that was right before Christmas. Right? we're there for January, February, on like March 1st, we get there and there is cease and desist paperwork on the door when we get there in the morning. Medical facilities are not allowed on Fort Lauderdale private airport property. You have to close two day. so we called the attorney and we got a 30 day extension 30 days to operate i mean you really can't

just do that we had at the time probably 25 employees what you know what i mean yeah yeah we had we have all of our licensing yeah have everything yeah and it is a medical you can't just keep people from getting medical yeah so they couldn't shut us down yeah you let us come we got 30 days and we're like and the heat was on i was getting pulled over almost every day with no fucking driver's license um and they're letting you go yeah and um i knew that's when i knew i was like oh man you know what i mean they're not just they're not just letting me go you know what they have bigger they have bigger and they're always searching and stuff yeah and um like we even tested it one day we had an empty safe big safe and threw it in the back of chris's range over and he drove out

they were watching saw us put the safe in there he didn't even make it out of parking lot when they swarmed them and wanted to search it and he held up he held his he he used his rights you're not searching that fucking safe they held them there for like two hours and finally we're like all right we got to let you go we can't can't do nothing so it was like all right it's time we go and we got to get out of fort lauderdale so that's when we went to boca what about just closing yeah it's too much money is your what about just closing the doors and say listen this is not a a this is not a viable business model i'm feeling like we're gonna this is gonna go bad i mean there were so many times where it's over right it's gonna go bad and nothing happened you're just waiting for it to go bad

you're like we're like we're like they can't do like we're starting to be 200 miles we're invincible i'm like they're throwing everything they got at us uh okay okay they're throwing and there's nothing yeah they got nothing right like they come in and i'm like that sound like i'm sitting You become emboldened. Every time you get over a hurdle, you're like, I'm that good. When they came to the DEA raid, when 15 of them came in and shut us down for the day, right? First of all, at the end of the day, when they finally left at 3 o'clock, I was like, we're open. And 200 people came in.

And we stayed there until 10 o'clock at night to make sure everybody got soft, right? But when they came in, dude, they're like looking at me and they're like, what the fuck, dude? what is this and look up the ceiling is covered in Chinese stars and throwing knives they're stuck in the wall from throwing knives and Chinese stars at each other there's fucking

remote control cars and helicopters that we would fly notes into the rooms that Dr. BC and a doctor patient and we go in with a big foot remote control car crash into the door run the doctor's feet over I mean insanity fucking chicks

in a extra examination rooms I mean the refrigerator full of beer shots of patron I mean the break room the whole ceiling was covered

in tortilla shells with sour cream on it because we had a bunch of extra from a buffet one day and just decided to put sour cream on a towel tortilla shells and throw them on a ceiling probably a hundred of them stuck up there you know they were like

what the you know But, and nothing, right? They held everybody up. They took this guy's medical license. They took our pills. And two hours later, we made all that money back, and we're right back in the ballgame, right? So why shut it down now?

Now everybody's in deep. Now we got a ton of employees. Everybody's got new cars, new houses. Everybody's life's changed. We're having a great, whatever. but again it was got to the point where it was like stressful a little bit but we're spending money as fast as we're making it too so you can't all right we're not going to go out on a low point right so the next office was boker atone um we made it there a year we don't right on magut mile where all the fraudulent stockbrokers offices on right on a 1A between uh linton and yamato right there right there on it there right there on it there right next to an Italian restaurant. It was an old capital carpet place.

Every one of your neighbors, I feel that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The guy, the funniest one was the all state insurance, all state or state farm insurance guy, right? After, this is location too. After, I don't know, two months of finding people OD in his bathroom, blood spurts on the wall, and just people walking in there, you know, like, Raleigh-popping or cotton teeth. Yeah, I need to get some car in shirt.

Whatever. They're just looking for a break or somewhere to use a bathroom or something, sit down at the desk and they give him his information. Can I use your, he thinks he's getting a client. Right. Can I use your bathroom real quick? Go and use a bathroom and then run out the door and run in. I mean, right next door is here.

There's four inches between our doors, right? Run out and run out of his and into ours. and Petito came to me, the security guy, said, hey man, a guy from next door wants to talk to him. He's real upset. I'm like, okay. And I go out there, and a guy, he, like, gave me, like, a breakdown of his just regular life, right?

And how he hated it, too. You know what I mean? And he was doing the whole, robbing his hand through his hair and going very stiff. Man, things didn't work out. I went to college You know Didn't I didn't become what I wanted to become But I got a degree

What am I going to do Open a fucking insurance agency Got a wife She's fat Three kids Fucking man he's kicking the ground And rubbing his hand through the hair Drive a fucking minivan

It's a fucking good one You know Top of the line Rated it's regular life man open up my own insurance office after answering to somebody for fucking years man things are start going good

then you fucking guys move in here dude and I'm like sir I'm sorry why are you talking to me about this I mean you I know where it's going you know what I'm playing dumb I got I don't know and he has literally come and got me like five times

to get people off his bathroom for He's like, don't fucking look at me like that, man. You know what the fuck I'm talking about, man. I don't fucking need this. And he's like, like, he did something. I think it was like how we accentuated the need this. You know what I mean? Like he was a, it reminded me of this girl I used to date that was pretty unstable.

And like when she got her period or something and her eyes would start rolling around in it. Like when she was really unraveling and I, I loved watching it. I would twist the screws a little bit on top of it. You know what I mean? Just like, what you're going to fucking do? You know what I mean? So that's when he did that thing. And I was like, I don't know.

You know, just kept twisting a twist till he fucking snapped and just fucking started screaming and carrying out. I couldn't take it anymore. I laughed so fucking hard right in his face. And I was like, you know, for like five minutes. And then I was like, I'm sorry, dude. I'll do whatever. Do you feel better?

You know what I mean? That you got it off your chest? I mean, there's nothing I can do about it. What do you want me to do? We're going to be moving soon. We're supposed to get an office down at the end of the street. And that was another reason we ended up moving because we moved into that place, built a triage, thinking we were going to get three offices down, double the space.

But in those two or three months that we're there, they canceled the contract and we're like, you've got to go. You don't got to go right now, but you're not getting a. another space right so then we more you know like said we moved into that one that one lasted not long then to uh boca and like that's what we we were so confident that we hadn't been in trouble right yeah that the heat that was getting put on us it didn't even bother us anymore right we were became part of the fucking we were just fucking with the police right like one they would park so there's a 1a a side road our office and an italian restaurant and this a little

side road residential and then another office right here so back here is all houses just like strip malls going down on the side this one's got like 10 things in it right laundromat this that deal whatever across the street you got we called it hobib it was just a uh you know like a 7-11 type thing yeah but like not a brand name one you know what I mean like the guy with the turban on in there right so everybody where you going I'm going to run over to meet um so the cop they they would do all these tactics they couldn't do nothing could get any warrants couldn't do nothing so they would do like these scare tactics so they would get there at like six 30 morning and park five cop cars in our parking lot to think that that was going to scare

the patients away right they are they would park in the parking lot in the driveway of the parking lot directly across the little side street from us so i mean i would go get there in the morning go not going to be like get the fuck out of a parking lot right can't be here we got a warrant or something like that this is where you're you're interfering with business you're taking up five parking spots i got a place that can occupy 240 patrons these are my parking spots that i pay for these are the parking spots that that restaurant pays for you're interfering with commerce get out of it you're You know what I mean?

Just we had it all knocked down. So then they started parking in the driveway of the parking lot next door. Chris has a brand new BMW M6. I have a brand new Mercedes, CLS. Chris says, the cop won't move. I go talk to him. He won't move. Chris goes talks to him.

He won't, still won't move. Chris goes, get in your car. Drive around the block real slow. and he is in the the cop is sitting in the out lane there's an in and out of the parking lot right okay so he's sitting there parked in the block blocking people from getting out so you have to go around them right he goes drive around a block real slow when you get there turn into the parking lot so you're going past them right okay okay i got a hundred twenty thousand dollar car Chris got a $120,000 car.

I go in, Chris is behind them and hits the gas, goes around the cop car, and smash into each other because the cop was blocking the exit, so

illegally, so Chris goes around it and wrecks both of our cars to prove a point to him. And again, no driver's license. Right. Right. So actually, I had just got my driver's license back and got off probation.

I got a work license. And I just got it back. So I have a work license now. Right. And I'm trying to explain to the cop. Yeah. I'm working. Like, I don't want him to know that I work at the paint clinic.

I told him I worked at the dry cleaners. And he's like, looking at me, he's like, a pretty nice car to work at the dry cleaners, you know? But, yeah, it's just the ends at, uh, that's just how cocky. everybody was and not worried about it um and that's we're there for a year and that's when it was 250 260 on a slow day people coming in six doctors going all the time that's when the doctor started fighting over patients and um it got stressful again you know what i mean it got like to the point where it's like ah man i don't even want to fucking and that's also when all the other pain clinics started people started seeing what we're doing most of them

were just fucking patients of ours that were like folk this i don't want to fucking i want to own one of these places so they would steal our business model try to use our advertising against us the jerk off from jacksonville that stole the patient list through the MRI company whatever their deal was um so it became like a like do it like and i really me i didn't give a shit about it but chris would get oh they were his patients you know what i mean and i handled things one way chris's way of handling stuff was we'll sue him right he was in lawsuits with everybody dot ex-doctors his brother other pain clinics all these lawsuits and in my mind i was always like dude you're like giving depositions

and stuff right like aren't we just giving whoever's investigating that like that becomes public i don't know right i would think that it would become some kind of public record they can certainly get a hold of deposition yeah i don't know exactly but you know you're talking about things and you know like we're talking uh what's that called uh when you're stealing somebody like you work for somebody and then you steal their patients what's that called it's uh i don't know theft of something anyway Yeah, like that kind of stuff, non-compete. Chris always had people signing,

doctor signing non-compete, and he's always suing them for that, and we're talking. And like, it gets to the depositions. And those guys are like, yeah, I did that because he's making me do unethical and illegal thing. You know what I mean? I'm like, they're going to say the same thing every time.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Whether it's true or it's not true. He's like, well, it's not true. And most of the case. If enough people say it, it becomes true. so like I said me and him had two different ways of doing things right and um I would go destroy their offices go beat the shit out of people do all that kind of you know what I mean um and that

was his way doing it and it just I don't know which was worse but um yeah so that it started getting shitty again and um so we're there for like about a year when the um Jacksonville situation happened that I came into work one day and all these patients kept coming up to me and asking me, uh, thanking me for the call that I made to them and asking when the new office would be open. And I was like, I don't know what, what are you talking about? I never called you. I don't call anybody. What, what do you mean? And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you called and said you're opening up an office. It's going to save you six hours, round trip, drive. You know, we're coming from Ohio, Kentucky.

West Virginia, wherever, and you're in Jacksonville, as soon as you come over the Florida line, we're right there. I said it was you, you know what I mean? You know, tattoos, the whole nine. And I'm like, whatever, you know, didn't think much of it. At this time, I was beefing with a company called Palm Beach Payne that opened up again right down the street and like a similar address and was like going in between us and a I-95 and redirecting

our patients, you know what I mean? Right. And like coming into our waiting room and handing out. So I'm dealing with them. I destroyed their office. I beat the shit out of like three of them. It was like a beef with going back and forth between

they're calling the cops on us and telling them that you know, sending the cops into our just a pain shit I didn't want to deal with. You know what I mean? I want to sit at the office, fuck around. get drunk you know what i mean five or six beers it's a big deal you know i don't just turn it one of the dudes at the offices is making a ton of money right way more than like the limit where

you're making you can't pay any more child support once you're paying right right so he's lying about his income to and he's making you're making you make probably a million dollars right and he's lying about his income i think it stops at 250 they can only go your child's sports at 250 so he doesn't have to worry about it but he's still lying and saying he's making 500 a week right to child to his old lady who lives in Missouri or something like that and i got this bitch down here as a private investigator with disguises and shit videotaping our office, pretending to be employees of ours, going and getting our bank records from Bank of America and turning them over to the DEA.

I got all these kind of fucking things going on, right? Who is that? This guy, Ethan, his ex-wife, he had a kid with, Ethan Jr. Oh, she's going down and she's trying to prove that he makes more money. Yeah, she's trying to do that. And she's playing private investigator at the same time. So she would see Ethan, our one. of somebody going to the bank, Bank of America,

right down the street, right? See him go in there, do whatever kind of transaction. He would leave. She'd run in right after him and be like, oh my God. The guy from America paying from South Florida planning, that's my boss.

I'm his assistant. He forgot to get a receipt for that. They'd be like, oh, no problem. And they'd print out a fucking deposit receipt or an account statement or something like that. And then this bitch takes it and gives it to the D DEA, right? And then our, the DEA and the IRS.

So now people that work for us, our fucking bank accounts are getting money taken right out of it for not claiming, like all the employee, like one of the statements she got was all the employees' paychecks. So she turned it in and now everybody on that roster is under IRS audit, right? So I'll deal with that. I'm dealing with the Palm Beach pain. dealing with Ethan

at this time there are a few different people have died right um patients patients have died and I always get the call

from the coroner's office because they always want the medical records right right and like I would get I would be like the middleman between the doctor and a coroner's office and stuff

and I would be like all right send me the information, right? And I'll send you all our medical records, right? And 90% of the time I would get the toxicology report back, and it was either a mixture of things or something that wasn't even, we didn't even prescribe that they overdose from, right? But there's probably 50, 100 of them out there that I don't even know about. You know, at this time it was probably five or six. And there was one guy named Stacey Mason that overdose, I could. kicked him out and kicked him out of the clinic for having he was a patient like three months

he leaves a patient leaves the clinic gets pulled over on i 95 going back to kentucky cops see track marks all over his arms now i check for track marks before i let you come in check for track marks the cops call me say he got a script for 180 um oxy 30 milligrams it says on here three hours ago. I have his pill bottle. He's got 30 left. He's got track marks all over his arm. What are you doing?

How do you live with yourself selling this? I said, I don't have taken that many. I said, I don't know what to say. And he's like, well, you don't think he's selling them and using them and probably selling them so he can keep using him. And I'm like, well, if he comes back in here, I will do an examination and audit his file and question him, whatever. Next month he comes in.

that was in July he comes in for his August appointment I go in there I look at him before he even sees a doctor I look at his arms they look fine I don't see any track marks I grab alcohol wet naps go like this and all the makeup comes off his arms and they're just I'm talking postules everywhere oh and I'm like all right dude this is it bro sorry I'm like I got a report from the police you were missing and 90 of your 180 pills or more, right? You got track marks. You can no longer be a patient.

Filled out the rejection report, put it in a file, put it in the patient file that he can never come back, right? Gave him a card for a rehab type place, which really wasn't rehab. It was just another pain clinic. But no. Right? So that's August. Right.

December. I get a call from the coroner's office and the sheriff's office. He's dead. All right. Right. He has a pill bottle in his pocket from your office.

He's dead. Okay. Couldn't have been from your pills, though, because he didn't get any of them. It's five months later. Yeah. It's, so the last time he was there was July, he got 180 pills.

He had 30 of them left on the same day. So now we got August, September, October, November, December. It's five months later. he still has a pill bottle from it wasn't even the last visit right right so we had a pill bottle in his pocket it was a self-deletion still charged us with that murder like went all the way through court trying to charge us doctor cadet went on trial for that murder right so I'm dealing with all that at the same time you know and then these guys everybody's coming out to me

going what's going on with the new clinic in jackson what's going on with the new clinic in Jacksonville. These are patients coming in. I got all that shit going on. And I was just blowing it off. Like, what do you? These fucking people, they come in and tell me anything to try to get special treatment or cut the line.

All right. You know what I mean? It happens all the time. But after like the 10th person in a row came in and said something, I was like, that's kind of not added up. You got the number that called you. And because they were like, when they were telling me, they were saying that I called them you know and uh they're like yeah a couple of them had the number

and it was 9-04 Jacksonville right I was like I don't know what the fuck that number was and then somebody got it in my head that it was my ex-girlfriend's father who worked at the clinic and ended up leaving like it was kind of bad you know what I mean when he left and like somebody got it in my head that it was him and I was like calling him and I'm I'm like, dude, is this you? Whatever, it was like another patient. It was like, oh, there's a guy in Jacksonville. They used to work here.

Steve, he's the one who did that. And I'm like, nah, you know, question him. I felt bad about asking him. You know what I mean? So finally, I called the number. And I was like, hey, is Derek there? And the guy was like, yeah, that's me. And I'm like, this is Derek from American Pain.

He's like, yeah. Yeah, man. guy with tattoos, big guy with tattoos and I'm like I didn't know what to say you know what are you saying I'm like dude there's probably something something stupid came out I was like dude I'm there

what the fuck are you talking about and he was like oh fuck you I'm taking all your business I'll burn your fucking place down this and that I'm like wait what's happening like it took me a minute to put together what was going on and I was like all right man

that's cool yeah bitch don't fuck me i got money too he said and i was like okay dude all right let me get off here because now i'm mad so now i'm got to figure out who the fuck this is and what's going everybody's tough guy on the phone you know so i went to chris and we started talking about it and trying to figure out what was what did something cross-reference the phone number with sunbiz the 904 sunbiz came up to a name, Zach Rose, looked into the corporation and found out there was a corporation

between Zach Rose and Pete, Parkin-Lot Pete, Tinsdale, the guy, the MRI guy. So kind of put it together, that Parkin-Lot Pete was in business with somebody who was opening up a pain clinic and he sold all of our patient list to this somebody or just became partners with them and is using our patient list you know what

mean didn't really know exactly what was going on so again the whole story that I heard from these Jacksonville people that when they're on TV I mean not a single drop of their story is true but they're saying that it was a call center and we didn't know about it um or one of them knew about it one of them didn't know about it it was a call center set up a call center with like 40 people to call all these patients and this and that that's a lie because that's how we found out who it was by the phone number right we put the phone number into sunbiz and it came up to the dude's personal phone right right so yeah whatever i don't care you know so i called the dude back and i was like listen and don't be an idiot just tell me who gave you the

list you know what I mean it is what it is just I don't know what's going to happen now and it kept on talking shit back to me and I'm like at this point I don't care I was like all right whatever dude I'll let you deal with Chris so the next day that was on my way home from work that day and the next day I went into Chris I was like listen dude here's the guy's number this is what's going on you let me know what you want me to do you know what I mean you want me to go handle it I mean I've been dealing with these people people just like this for the last three years right whatever it's no it's annoying but everybody always gets dealt with so i left it at that now chris calls starts calling the guy and tells him he's me right he doesn't

say i'm chris he says he's derrick right multiple times and he's got it on speaker and a recording device so he's recording the whole thing the threats back and forth and all this kind of shit as me right so i don't know maybe a couple days now it was this was in the middle of october a middle of november and we found out that their place opened December 13th so there was like a couple weeks in there where they were like arguing and deciding whether chris decided whether he's going to sue him and fighting with pete tinsdale and checking Zach Rose out, whatever, all this shit, I'm out of it by this time.

You know what I mean? Just tell me when it's game time and I'll go handle it, whatever. So the weekend before the 13th, 13 was a Monday. That weekend, like maybe Thursday, Chris was like, how much to burn a place down before they open? I said, 50 grand.

He said, done. So I went and I got my materials, right? and my brother was coming in he was in college and he was starting um his winter break right so like i was going to go up there on friday take care of it pick him up come back whatever it's done um Friday at the end of the day that's i was going to go up there do it at like three o'clock in a morning right feedback different cars different license plates the whole thing whatever cover my tracks and uh chris calls me off oh listen man i already talked to the lawyer we just got to get some evidence of collusion between pete and this guy

zach rose um i know that pete is going to be there with his trailer um so i just you know take the day and like just go up there and snap some pictures and shit you know i mean and the lawsuit's gonna whatever i'm like whatever dude so monday morning me and my brother i was like yo we'll just go like they got a big ass mall and all kinds of shit it's almost christmas time we'll go up there just fuck around check it out take some pictures we'll go fucking christmas shopping for everybody you know i mean just whatever make a day out of it i don't i don't think i'd ever been to jacksonville at that time you know like all right cool we go up there i watch him open i'm looking around but i can they got the trailer so it's like block in the front door so i can't get any like pictures so i'm like for my

brother i'm like listen man just go get an MRI right so go in there tell him you want to be a patient but he's only 18 right i'm like go in there say you want to be a patient fill out the paperwork give him the money go get an MRI i send him in there i give him a couple hundred bucks I'm like, I don't know how much it's going to be. Go in there, just fill out the paperwork so we can go get an MRI, right, right? Tell him that you're going to see the doctor or whatever. He's 18 years old. Take your driver's license.

And again, these guys are saying that they know all of us. We know each other. They don't know my fucking name, right? So all they know is my name is Derek. I have no idea who these people are. I've never seen them. My name is Derek Nolan. My brother's name is Kevin Nolan.

Right, right? So if they know us, right? And we've had dealing with, they know, you know what I mean? So he goes in, whatever. They take his money and then they try to rip him off. Like, they let him get an MRI. And then when he goes to see the doctor like, oh, you're not, you're not 21, dude. Come back at the end of the day and we'll give you your money back.

And then they like pulled him in a room and like started. But he did that. He went and he got pictures. Right. He takes pictures and all this shit. pictures of Pete whatever and they pulled them in a room and like, I mean he's 18 years old

he probably whip all of their asses in there but they're like threatening them like something's fishy about you dude what's going on man what is the 18 year old from South Carolina he's like dude whatever man I'm a collegiate soccer player I'm hurt I wanted to pay pills

you can't see me you can't see me you're going to make me wait to get my money back you just can't go oh we put the money in a safe this kind of thing you just got to come back at the end of the day when we open the safe whatever and he leaves and i mean the story that i'm hearing right is that they saw jeff and chris pull up and an s 600 silver mercedes and all that they know him and they knew that the beef was going on and all those guys were 600 miles away right There was nobody around except me and my brother.

Maybe you thought something was suspicious, but you don't know anybody. You didn't see anybody. It's all everybody, I mean, I just making way more of it than it had to be. I should have just burned the motherfucker down on Friday. And we wouldn't even be in this situation. I called Chris. I was like, look, man, I got pictures of the place. I got pictures of Pete outside.

I got pictures of Pete inside. Whatever. We're going to come back. And Chris is like, oh, no. Should I come up there? And I'm like, dude, for what? You know what I mean? I'm not fucking, it's broad daylight on a Monday morning.

We're right in the middle of Jacksonville. What? What do you want me to do? And he's like, I'm fucking coming. I'm coming up there. I'm gonna fucking handle this. I know they fucking, I know what happened. He's got my list from Pete and this and that.

I'm like, whatever, dude. See, so he's, he's, he's, you know, he's teetering between being like a handling everything, like a spoiled like a rich kid right like you sue and being a wannabe gangster but then when it really comes down to it he doesn't want to be a gangster you know what I'm saying he doesn't want to do those things I mean when he when he finally got there right so I was like all right whatever I'm like listen I got my brother with me too I'm not it's just what it is so like we my brother we went and watched a movie fucking went did some shopping went to a bar had a couple beers ate some chicken

wings and then he chris finally shows up and he's got his friend chris hudson with him who is i mean he's just a scammer you know what i mean he's not intimidating he's not it's like bringing me with you i wouldn't insult you like that um so oh my whatever i'm like he's i'm like what do you want to do and he's like i'm just gonna go in there and fucking talk to these guys about it i want i want that fucking list and it's too late i I didn't know it, but he had all kinds of evidence on this guy, Zach Rose, for Dr. Shop. So he was basically going in there to extort the guy, Zach. I didn't know any of this shit, right?

So I'm like, dude, listen, man, don't fucking cause like a big scene, man. It's broad daylight. We can handle this another way, another time, if that's the right, you want to go. Whatever. I got my brother with me, dude. Right. So we had my car, and he drove up in his brand new Rangerover with Chris. Hudson so I'm like tell my brother I'm like here's my keys go park down the street right I jump

in a car with them I said we're just going to go in there these people aren't going to give us the fucking list whatever it's just going to be an argument we're going to leave and then something will happen at another time so me Chris Chris pulling in a range over get out of the car so Pete comes walking out of his trailer and uh Chris sees him And they start fucking arguing and screaming back and forth and all this in the park line. I'm just standing there like, whatever. And Chris doesn't even have a relationship with Pete.

I have the relationship with Pete. I'm the one who handles all that. And he's yelling at him and all this shit. And I'm just standing there like, whatever. And Pete's like trying to back out. No, you don't understand. It's not like that. Whatever.

I just do MRIs. I just go where people are doing MRIs, blah, blah, blah. Chris is like, fuck that, you motherfucker. And he goes inside. And I'm standing there, and Chris Hudson follows him in. I'm standing there with Pete. I'm like, dude, you fucked up. We got you.

We got the sunbiz. You know, your partners with this person. I don't know who this person is. We've been doing business for a couple years. You guys may have butted heads a few times. Whatever. I'm like, all right, man. Let me go make sure this is all right, man.

I'll talk to you. I walk inside and I see Chris standing there yelling and taking his watch off. And the guy, Zach, I don't know what his name is. I'm told it was Zach, right? Standing there and he's got a gun on top of a desk with a book over top of it, pointed at Chris. And Chris is yelling at him and he's like, oh, fucking yell at you. I walk in and Chris Hudson's standing in between us. I take about three steps in and I hear it and I turn around and there's this doofy-ass dude standing there with a pistol in my face shaking like this.

the guy Chris Hudson says my aunt is PBSO Palm Beach Sheriff's Office I say dude pull the trigger I'm going to take that and beat you with it he runs out the store turns around no words were spoken between us no conversation no nothing

it was 12 seconds of a gun shaking in my face I didn't even see his face he runs out I look out the window know, I see them run to a pickup truck, throw the gun in a pickup truck, run to the next parking lot, get in a car and drive away. As I turn around to walk back, as I see Chris and this other guy, Zach, going into a back

room, everything's calmed down now, the girl's in the back and some fucking one-armed freak wearing a nurse's outfit so one of their buddies only has one you got a little fucking nub something like that are there they're calling the cops

and I'm like all right but I see Chris and him going the other way I turn around and I about trip over a little baby literally like a toddler one to two year old girl and I'm in the middle of a fucking pain clinic

with about 10 junkies sitting there. It's like five in the afternoon. And there's me, Chris Hudson, a couple junkies. That's it in the waiting room. The police are on the phone. And there's a little baby there. And I think it is one of the junkies. And I'm like, whose kid is this?

And some girl from the back in her little scrub uniform goes, that's my daughter like you care who's kid it is. And I said, well, obviously I care. I'm not going to trample over a little. kid, I wouldn't have fucking said nothing if I didn't care. I picked the kid up. The girl came running out and fucking took the baby and went in the back. Turns out, that's the guy who had a gun to my head's daughter, who big tough guy, put a gun to my head, got scared because somebody's uncle or aunt was PBSO and left his little daughter with the big bad gangster.

That's how fucking tough this guy is, how scared he is. So I was like, okay, And this is all on video from their surveillance cameras, by the way, right? So by the time I walked outside, which was two minutes later, there was about five JSO officers there, wouldn't let me leave. I'm just trying to leave, just trying to leave. They want my driver's license. I won't give my driver's license. I'm trying to leave, trying to leave.

All they were doing, it was just a stall tactic to get us to stay there so they can investigate everything. sat there for an hour finally I said I'm fucking leaving went to leave they grabbed me put me in handcuffs my brother came up not my brother was still sitting in a other parking lot my brother came up

one of these fucking jerk off screams that's the guy right there they locked my brother up throw us me my brother Chris and Chris Hudson all got handcuffed put in four different cars and driven in four different directions what would you what would you say that's the guy your brother yeah i don't know what one of these

fucking probably the one-armed freaking weirdo junkie bag that was there said that because my brother was in there so he just recognized him yeah so he was i don't know i don't like i they obviously assumed that he was with us or something so the cops grabbed him grab me chris hudson grabbed chris george put us in four cop cars drove us in four different directions about a mile away and now it's six they left us there till midnight right we sat in the cop cars till midnight then they came and got us drove us back there and now there's detectives everywhere the whole place is closed down all these fucking jackoffs inside their pain clinic or looking out the window going doing all this shit inside the window they've been sitting

there writing reports on us telling all kinds of bullshit, whatever for the last six hours and I see a detective walking around listening to something and I'm like, what the fuck is he listening?

I'm like, what is he doing? And he's going, oh, yeah, and he's fucking high-fiving the other detectives and shit, and I'm like, what the fuck is he doing? Sitting there watching him, watching him, he comes over and he's like, who's Derek? and I'm like me get out of the car

he's like this is your one chance to fucking cooperate I'm like cooperate with what am I under arrest what am I cooperating with what am I doing I didn't do anything and he's like he pulls out the thing he was listening to it was a recording device

that Chris was recording the conversations with when he was pretending to be me right and it's they're on there back and forth between him and whoever threatening each other I'll burn your place down I'll burn your place down. I'm going to kill you. I'm going to kill you. I'll shoot you. I'll shoot you. All this shit. So I'm like, dude, that's... It pretended to be me. You know what I mean? So he's like,

you're done. You're done. You're all going down for extortion. No bond. No bond. Took all four of us to jail. We had to sit there, sat there for a day before we saw a judge. Jacksonville has no cash bond. So you got to see a judge. So he sat there for a day. I'm pissed because I got my little brother. He didn't do anything. He doesn't even know what the fuck's going on. Right. so and they separate us they said he's the only one they separate they separate my brother from the rest of us right i'm fucking pissed now so the next day like two in the afternoon we go before a judge we've had we have already hired the top attorneys in jacksonville and uh so we hired them they're there waiting for us at the jail at the bond hearing at

to jail because they're demanding no bond. The detectors are there. And you can hear them in the judge's chambers. We're like in this little room in the jail. Judges chambers are right there and that you could hear them back there screaming. I want these guys under the jail. I don't want

them going on. He just drove 400 miles to extort a one of our local businesses. And this is that we haven't had an opportunity to shut down for being a pill mill. And I'm like, and this is the first day that that clinic open this is their first day this is their first run at it and uh i'm like you got

be fucking me and then i see my lawyers we each got a lawyer there's a lot of money and they come walking out of the judge's chambers with like smiles on her face they're like whatever but the judge comes up and he's like i can't keep you guys here you didn't do anything right right you don't mean there's a suspicion that you did something but you didn't do anything and he was like it was like gave my brother $10,000 bond gave me 50

or 150 gave Chris 200 and the other guy that was with us Chris Hudson he's got like he was on like probation or something so his was like $250,000 right and you have to

wear a unmonitored ankle monitor to protect the people from the pink link so you can't go within a mile or five miles of those people right so we're just going to put this angle monitor it's not going to be monitoring you right but if any time we check it and you're within the jacksonville whatever right then it's a violation so we had to wait another couple hours to get those things put on our ankles we left went and got our cars, went home.

A week later, it was dropped. Two weeks later, something like that. They dropped the whole case. These bitches are calling our office. Don't get us in trouble. We're not going to do, meanwhile, they're writing, doing depositions. So they're already, they're trying to press charges. I have the ripping.

I had, I don't know if I still do, maybe somewhere. They're written statements and their depositions. You know, in a state, the victims and the witnesses go in. and record and get it stenographized what they're going to testify to so they can't go to trial and change their story. Right. Right.

That's how it works in this state. So they went and did all that and they're sending my lawyer all these statements that these bitches are fucking putting on us. All kinds of fake show. We came in and we said we're going to burn a place to that. I mean, listen, the whole thing took 30 seconds.

Right. Right. The gun got pulled. He ran out the door. Didn't even see his face. Don't even know, you know what I mean? All these guys, whatever. It went on maybe till February.

That happened to beginning of December. By February, it was all dropped. We got a phone call, cut the ankle monitors off, and mailed back to us. That was the end of the story. I didn't hear about it again for three years until they arrested me and charged me with it in the feds. When I was handed all their 302s that they testified, that they gave their statements they gave to the feds,

I don't know any of their names. I know I got a whole stack of them. But whatever. It just, it's amazing. You know, people out there, clout chasing, they're reading people's books, reading people's stories, and they think that nobody's going to notice

that you're telling other people's stories and changing things around to make yourself look like a tough guy. I just don't get it, you know? But whatever. If that's what you got to do, man, if that's what gets you at, blow your hair back, knock yourself out.

Yeah, so they dropped, they dropped the thing. In that meantime, now we're at the Boca office, the Boca Raton office, and now is when it really came on. Now we're doing 400 patients a day. We got a 6,000 square foot office, six doctors offices. Is this the new building, the big building? Nope, this is building number four. This is, again, we're, we.

we've outgrown it we're seeing four in the force i don't want to i we didn't break 500 for another couple months but we're in the fours every single day again the neighborhood is on lockdown being held hostage by the by the by the by the patients the less desirable residents of the neighborhood that we're in are subcontracting parking Like, you literally have, like, dirt bag residents, okay, buying golf carts and coming and charging our patients to park in their park, in their yards, right? And when they run out of space, they're having them park in their neighbor's yards who are at work, causing a whole other, like, I'm talking, everybody hates us, hates us, right?

the restaurants are closing during our business hours um they see us coming they'll lock their doors to their businesses they don't they don't even want us going in there and having drinks don't want us utilizing the dry cleaning they hate everybody hates us the cops are really crack it they're doing jumpouts they are pulling all the patients out of their cars spreading everything out in the park lot doing it and it's it's the boca PD right and um they're making it they're making it very uncomfortable for us not to mention the fact that i just totally destroyed the other pain clinic that's down the street right so we're beefing with them at the same time um while they're rebuilding whatever and um it's getting hectic um i got

as i said before the dude Ethan's baby mama like tracking our every move and reporting it to the DA, the IRS. I got cops coming in every day to talk to me trying to get patient files. Oh, we arrested this guy. We need to say, I knew what they were doing. You know what I mean? They would arrest somebody or pull somebody over. That person would have, look, yeah, I got pills.

They're legal, right? The cops would then count the pills. It says on there, take one pill every eight hours or every three hours. as needed for pain. They would count the pills, count, subtract from the date that they were prescribed and the prescription was filled.

And if it didn't match up, there was five pills missing, 10 pills missing, or there was a pill bottle for 180 pills with 200 pills in it. They're arresting them. And then they're coming in and they're demanding

the patient files without a warrant trying to prove it. And then I'd be like, no, I can't do that HIPAA kind of thing. They're like, oh, so what, are you interfering with this investigate? Why don't you, you would want somebody coming here that is selling their pills or abusing your pills?

Is that what you're trying to tell me? And I'm like, no, that's what I'm trying to tell you. And then we talk to the lawyers. They're like, yeah, just give up the, make them give you a subpoena and then give up, you know what I mean? And then the cops are like, calling me, asking me, it just got, do you know this person? Does this person have a file there? Does this person have this?

And I'm like, dude, listen, I'm doing everything I can. When the people come in before they even see a doctor, I sit them down in a different room and wipe their whole bodies down with alcohol swabs to make sure they don't have puncture and track marks. I'm doing all this stuff I'm doing. And we're seeing so many people, no matter what you do, you can't kick out all the people, right? We're checking MRIs, cross-referencing references. from other doctors did this guy get a he give you your paperwork see who the referring doctor was call

him did you refer him to anybody else because i know you didn't refer him to me right right you didn't refer him to me but he's got a reference from you for pain management did you affirm to anybody else and did you write him a script you know what i mean just i had 10 people sitting at a huge table in the middle of the office with a phone in front of every one of them so everybody that brought in new paperwork they would call and try to do everything it's not that we didn't want them we're trying to make it look like we were doing our part right if you throw somebody out every once in a while that is blatant then it looks like hey we caught what we're trying to catch them and when i say every once in a while we're talking 25 a day right right i would literally throw i would spend my

whole day my whole day throwing people being magnum p i right trying to find a reason to not let this fucking asshole who is clearly not in pain, clearly not taking the medication and wearing a fucking brand new $20,000 necklace. What are you doing here? Right?

You know, trying to play it off like he is, whatever. At the same time, it just got very, we outgrew the place, we outgrew the neighborhood. Chris started looking for a new place. We found,

the 22,000 square foot old first union. Remember first union bank? It was an old bank branch, first union, downtown Lake Worth, immigrant neighborhood, nobody's going to call the cops, unlimited parking, fenced in parking lot. The only problem was it had a one-way street between the parking lot and the building going the wrong way for our traffic.

Right. And it was, that was the only spot that was, it was like an easement of a public road going through the private property that we had and the they had it going this way we needed to go that way not trying to draw it no and there was no houses or anything on the road it would just be like for a U-turn or a cutoff or something like that so I went there at night and changed the way the road went and fenced in and uh You know, we put, had a big, it was all fenced in. I went and bought those slats that you can weave through a chain link fence.

Yeah. Right. And hired some Mexican guys from the neighborhood and paid them. I was like, I'll give you $1,000 if you weave these. I mean, we're talking, I want to say it was on three acres. Okay. Right. So the fence went all the way around this thing.

You see the thing. We used to jokingly, we would, amongst ourselves in office, we call it the corridor building from New Jack City. Remember they took the building over? And it was like, it was, it was that big. It was that ridiculous. We had a gym upstairs. I ordered a UFC octagon to put up in there

so we could just fuck around when we felt like it. 22,000, that's, that's 10. That's 10 of these houses. Yeah. Unlimited space. We didn't even use all. But it was fucked up. There was only one bathroom on the first floor.

There was like one little bathroom on the first floor. The second floor, the bank, when it was a bank, was used for all the administrative employees. So they had multiple bathrooms. No, they had men, a men's and a women's locker room slash bathroom, like 10 urnals, 10 toilets, 10 toilets, it's a shower. Okay. So I would have to make trips.

Like, everybody would line up. So that's where I kind of implemented doing more drug testing. So every time somebody would come in, I'd be like, are you got to take it? Before it was like piecemeal. I do like every third person for a drug test. Right. Now, because of the bathroom situation,

I couldn't have these people just running freely through our office. I'd be like, all right, I'm going to wait until I got 10 men and 10 women. And all the women, if you're in childbearing age, you got to take a pregnancy test too, because you don't have many cops have called me. I mean, like, I got one of your fucking patients here, seven months pregnant with a new script from your office for 240 oxies. 70 Xanax, whatever, how the fuck do you sleep at night?

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I don't see the patients. I don't do pregnancy. What do you mean? So that's where I implemented that. Okay. And the other patients are you, with the tests, are you trying to make sure that they are taking the pills or that they're not taking something? Yeah. So the test is, I'll give you a drug test to make sure, A, you have that whatever we prescribed you in your system and you don't have any illicit or illegal drug, other things. Okay. Right. We made an exception for your first time with grass.

Make sure you weren't on methadone because that would be doctor shopping. So if you're going to a methadone clinic and a pain clinic, can't do both. right right um make sure you weren't pregnant and that was kind of funny when i would people wouldn't know they were pregnant and he's i got listen you got good news and bad news what do you want for i want the bad news you can't be a patient here anymore for a little while right well what's the good news got a bundle of joy coming yeah you know what i mean i mean i what disgusted me was i literally had one woman say to me, if I go get an abortion, can I come back tomorrow? And I was like, I was like, I don't want you to.

I don't want you to come back tomorrow. But I mean, I guess there's nothing I could do if you did. And she came back with the paperwork from the women's presidential center. And I was like, yeah, yeah, man, they're a fucking sicko. And then there was a couple that cried and were like, I'm hooked on these. And you're telling me I'm pregnant, I need help. And I was like, well, I don't know what to do. Let me, I hook them up with Dr. Cadet.

And she would get them into rehabs on different types of drugs to wean the fetus off, you know what I mean? So she did help a couple people. You know, when putting some situations like that, we weren't terrible people, you know what me i mean i guess we're pretty terrible but um so how long were you at the new clinic so yeah so we moved into the big giant office in uh january how many patients are you guys seen that we were in the 700s there was days that we were in 700 patients a day and how many staff um shit every guy had a chick right right so chris had like three right and his um office, but you didn't see him much.

He was behind the scenes, setting up the deals with the new playing clinics, doing a real estate stuff, doing the deals with the pharmaceutical companies and hiring doctors. You never saw him. And he had like three chicks in his office at all times. Also, we, Chris was buying up pharmacies because we couldn't get enough pills to sell at the clinic from the clinic to for the demand that we needed so we would just go buy mom-and-pop pharmacies and when you buy a mom-and-pop pharmacy their pharmaceutical license is good for a year with the new buyer so we would just buy these places and never buy anything but

painkill so they would be a regular little pharmacy with band-aids and tampons and fucking condoms and uh stool softener and all that shit and we would buy it and never order anything again except oxy xanics whatever and you know within like two or three months the store would be a store of empty shelves maybe like a teddy bear and a mother's day card left and just boxes of pills in the back until the DEA would come in and like shut them down be like what the fuck are you guys doing and then it would get traced back to us and uh yeah so that's what uh it would do so how many staff so 10 20 no i would say 30 30ish between the girl there was six guys at the counters right there was at least another six file clerks basically you come in

you give your money your id the id gets passed to the file clerk the file clerk goes find your file everything was paper there was no computers only our personal computers were at the office so there was no so at the end of the day we'd be like well let's just pull this roster sheet out there's how many on that rosters that as 52 on the roster pull uh 200 dollars times put 10,000 cash out of there never happened right let's go to the casino whatever kind of thing um so yeah so that it just got crazy there too um but unbeknownst to us that's when we got that place and it started that's when uh feds really ramped up there you know if you've seen any of the movies or anything all them say when we moved into

there they were like we got to stop this because it's getting that's how bad it's getting you know and we were getting more um hip to what they were we were more into the counter surveillance stuff too you know what i mean we're like all right we were making our plans around what we thought they were doing you know what we were like something's going you know high taking different driving rounds not talking on phones you know what I mean this that and uh so that's when they really ramped it up and they went they had already had Chris's phone tap they had it tap for a couple months they got their search and seizure warrants at the end of February but they didn't know everything they needed to know to be effective on their

search of seizure warrants to get everything right so they postponed they had the search of seizure warrants for February 22nd right I believe 22nd 23rd 21st something like that to execute able to execute them on that but they held up and extended the wiretap so they can listen more right and held on until they heard what they needed to hear about where money was so when they came 1,000 agents when they came and hit all of our locations and all of our banks and everybody's house and all that stuff that they didn't miss anything, right? So March 3rd, they held on,

listened, got an extension on our wiretap, listened for another 10 days, 14 days, whatever it was, then executed when they knew everything they needed to know and they didn't think they could get any more. Everybody got up for work. I get up at 6.30. I got up 6.30 that morning. in the shower taking a shower and um my phone was going crazy and i was like god damn so

these motherfuckers they can't wait another hour to get their fucking pills what the fuck what the last thing i was thinking i lived in a very nice neighborhood called black diamond in wellington near the polo club um whatever i got out of the shower my phone i mean it was just non-stop ring it rang for 10 minutes straight hang up call again i went and looked and it was Chris. And I'm like, uh-oh, what's, what's this about? I remember I was in my towel and I had my suit. I was getting my suit ready. And, uh, it was like, it's over, man. The fucking FBI is everywhere, dude. We're fucked. And I'm like, what are you talking about? I'm like, looking out my front window towards the street and the garbage man's out there, the birds are chirping.

It's beautiful day. It's beautiful. March 3rd day. It's probably 68, 70 degrees out. Beautiful. My kids, my old lady's kids down there eating breakfast, watching SpongeBob. You know what I mean? It was a wonderful morning. And it's over, dude. They're everywhere, bro. Where are you? They're coming for you.

And I'm like, I don't think anybody's coming for me, right? I was like, let me get off here. And I'm like, well, where are you? And he's like, I'm running. They're at my house. They got dogs, the SWAT team, the bomb squad's at my house. I'm like, the bomb squad. And he's like, yeah, remember we're making those fireworks?

I don't like, yeah, I guess they found the fireworks we were making. And I'm like, wow, okay, they went into his house with a, they opened the door with a robot and went in the house with the bomb suits on because we were making fucking Roman candles, you know what I mean? And again, I was like, okay, so what do you want to do? You want me to, there's nobody here. There's nobody at my house, right? And by now it's like 7.30.

I'm looking out the window. I'm waiting. I'm like, all right, you know what they're probably going to do is they're probably going to, I'm going to get my car. And they're going to be, you know what I mean? I'm going to get swarmed or something, you know. And he's like, they got to have wiretaps. They got to have wiretaps or something.

And I'm like, oh, my God, okay. So as soon as I hung up with him, all other 30 employees, pretty much every one of them called me. He was like, dude, I walked out my front door today. FBI was standing in front of my house. Dude, I walked outside. D.E.A. was standing outside of my house. Dude, I walked outside.

IRS was outside of my house. They're trying to take money. They're doing all this. kind of shit. I'm like, oh, fuck. Chris called me back and is like, meet me where every, we would always go to this place called me Keebs. It's a bagel joint. They got like fucking

awesome bagels, chocolate chips, all that shit. You know what I mean? Good stuff. Give you lots of cream cheese. Fucking nice sausage-agging cheeses, you know, it's a classy joint. So he's like, me where we go to breakfast? And I'm like, All right.

So it's right down the road. I went and met him. No cop cars. No nothing. I'm like, man, I think I'm going to fucking, I'm talking to everybody else. Sounds like a you problem. Yeah. I'm doing fine. I don't know what these guys are up to you, officer.

I'm like, I knew something was weird. I wasn't believing them. You know what I mean? But then everybody else was calling me. It was like, dude, fucking DA is in my yard right now. What do you want me to do? I'm like, I don't fucking know what to tell you to do. Bro, I don't know what to tell you.

So I met him, I met Chris, and I'm like, dude, nobody's calling me, no nothing. They were calling him nonstop. Like, Chris, come back to your house. We got to talk to you. This, that, and he's like, dude, I got guns at my house. I got a fucking idiot. Chris Hudson was living upstairs in my spare. He had like a, it's almost like a little apartment on one wing of his giant house over there

that Chris Hudson was living in. And who knows what the fuck that guy's got up there. You know what I mean? Nothing would surprise me with this. guy up there and sure enough he had fucking a stolen police gun all kinds of evidence of fraud and timeshare fraud and all this shit in there he's like dude i got three guns in a garage i got all bought by straw owners i got fucking chris hudson shit up there he didn't have any money at his house he had it at his mom's

house and he said so while the cops were listening straight to the mom's right to the moms get some money um he's freaking out they seize anyway how do you how much uh they got $25 million cash assets boats cars um 25 million right 25 million all the bank accounts everybody's bank account everything frozen took everything from everybody um I went and I met him and uh they eventually left his house we like sat in the parking lot of McKeves I drank some coffee and, um, like, listen to him when, you know, I was there when, you know, all those conversations that they play on all the movies, I was with them. You know what I mean?

And they eventually left his house and he's like, we can't go back to my house. They're probably waiting for me there. I was like, well, his, Diana was like, let's go to the attorney's office. And, um, we met his brother who was, they, they couldn't get into his brother's house. because his brother's house was a rental and a gated community so they couldn't get a warrant so they waited at the gates for him

and they tried. I mean, are they arresting these, anybody? They're just raiding the house. They're just, search and seizure warrants only, no arrest warrants. Okay. So just come and take all your shit. All right, right?

And pretty much left, everybody broke. There was a couple accounts here and there with X amount of money in it, nothing substantial, not even enough to pay the attorneys. Everybody's broke, scrambling. and we went to the attorney's office and the guy's attorney's like

I said me he got fucked you know what I mean he's like it's like $300 to $300,000 for you I need $80 for you I don't know what your role is here's an attorney to call I'm representing this one

and we sat at all day talking about options what was going to happen and like listen this could go on they might not arrest you for two years we don't know what's going to happen and nobody ever called me no no DEA agents no IRS they never came in my house and never called me no nothing no radio silence I hired an attorney he called the district attorney's office like a week later and was like I represent Derek Nolan the it's the said the Broward branch whatever

I represent Derek Nolan whatever and she was like listen um I can't talk to you right now Your client's in a lot of trouble. There's a lot of deaths involved. So be prepared. You know, the routine indictments are coming. There's no, at this time, we're not offering any immunity letters. So we'll contact you. I was like, fuck, dude, moved out.

It was out of the house, my house. Everybody, all of a sudden, you know, we were talking to everybody, that day, at the end of the day after meeting with the lawyers every employee came to my house and we all talked and like okay everybody nobody say nothing if the cops come to you again

talk to my attorney giving out cards all this kind of stuff all that kind of shit and that was the last day I saw everybody together every day I tried to keep in contact with everybody and like the first day

the next day start making phone calls two people are missing they're gone their phone's disconnected gone a couple days later then it started being people higher up close to me my level maybe right below me maybe on an evil even scale with me gone drive over to the house house is empty the guy at the guard gate says oh yeah they moved out here at five o'clock in the morning dude oh my go oh man this is bad news dude when um on to the point where I was pretty much broke. I could say broke,

but I was down to not having much. Yeah, I had maybe six months left of living my, you know, my lifestyle. And I moved out of my big house. And I was like, I just went to New York. I was like, fuck it. They're going to arrest me, whatever. I'm going to go up to see my parents and shit.

I was up there for like a week just hanging out at the, you know, I grew up on a forum, whatever, hanging out there. And like 7 o'clock on a Monday morning, the house phone starts ringing. And I'm like, what the fuck? My parents are sleeping. They're older at the time, you know?

I went out there and I looked. Your parents are my aunt and uncle. Yeah. And I went out and I looked at the caller ID. They saw a house phone. I looked at the caller ID. And it was a Broward number, 954 number

and I called it back and it answered FBI you know DEA DEA Miami I was like oh shit

I hung up the phone and like two minutes later my cell phone rang I answered it and it was like this special agent Michael Bert with a DEA we need to talk to you

I was like I'm not there he's like I know you're in New York I'm like yeah I don't you got to talk to my attorney he's like what's your attorney's name he's like this is your shot you don't want to talk to me now that's it everybody's done everybody's turned on you bro um talk to me talk to your attorney have your attorney call me i'll call your attorney whatever it is i was like i don't know bro listen my attorney told me not talk to you tell him you talk to him

figured it out that way hung up called my attorney my attorney called them again and they were like listen it was Paul Schwartz was the

the head DA US attorney Paul Schwartz like a I don't know real New York guy short kind of like muscular

arrogant cocky guy called my lawyer and was like your client is one scary guy we got him cold he's going away he's got one chance i got him extortion i got him kidnapping i got him drug trafficking i got him murder he's done he's done this is your one chance he's got a week to get back here and uh i was like what do you want me to do he's like it's up to you man if you go in there they're expecting you to cooperate. And I was like, whoa, can't I just go, like, listen to what they have to say or whatever? You know what I mean?

And he's like, I wouldn't advise it. But yeah, I'll set it up, come and listen to what they have to say. I drove back, met up with my attorney. We went in there at, like, 9 o'clock to the U.S. attorney's office on Broward Boulevard, Fort Lauderdale. And as I drove, you got to park behind it. So it's right on Broward, you drive passenger's. like the fountains and everything's out front.

And like, I never seen any of these, uh, agents or anything before. I never see, I don't, I have any idea what they look like. I don't know nothing. I drive past, I'm in my car, my lawyer's behind me, and I look over, and there's a whole group of people, maybe 15 guys in suits and shit like that, someone with badges, I mean, like maybe 15, 20 feet off the road, you know, in between the road and the courthouse. And I see them point at me. I'm like waiting at the light to turn to go behind it.

park and I see him point at me and they go like this and they turn around and start walking upstairs. I was like, I wonder if they were pointing at me. Me and my turn to go park, get out of the car, and he goes did you see him? I go, then he goes, yeah, they pointed at you. That's them. That's who we're meeting. I was like, too,

there was like 20. He's like, oh yeah, oh yeah, this is going to be fun. And I'm like, oh, fuck. We go in there. Got to go through the fucking regular metal detectors and we go up into the attorney's office and we got to go through they this is like a real search take your belt off pat you down wand you take everything out of your pockets and i got my bad motherfucker

wallet it says bad motherfucker from pope fiction right i pull it out throw it like what's fucking wrong with you do and i'm like what do you want me to say get dressed go walk into a room giant room huge room probably i don't know it's like something you're seeing a movie like Bruce Wayne's conference table. You know what I mean? Like Dark Night Style. I walk in there, they're all sitting around the table just glaring at me.

I'm like, oh boy. How you doing? Derek, he says who's new? I'm like, I've been better. I guess what's going on. I look in the middle of the table are a bunch of binders. Right? And he's like, sit down. And don't say nothing. He opens it up and just starts reading wire transcripts from me and Chris talking

like one of them I was like dude there's so many patients coming from locks hatchie it's like I got gold mine out here was like did they fucking find did they strike gold and locks hatchie there I heard it was a swamp you know and I'm fucking talking about shooting cops windows out with slingshot slicing tires knocking people out where I got a GPS on the people's car following them around when they go to pump gas

I pop out as them for a light crack them in the head like all the and I'm just sitting there like oh my god my lawyer's looking at me he's like you didn't tell me none of this shit and they're they're trying the psychological the good cop bad cop one is climbing over the table scream at me you're a fucking piece of shit everybody's going down because you you're the fucking worst one you're done you notice we didn't come see you nobody came we didn't even want to give you a chance this is your only fucking chance and it's still going to be 25 years motherfucker I'm like oh man

I was like uh can I have it go have a cigarette and they're like yeah you got 10 minutes me and my lawyer went back through everything smoked cigarette and I was like dude I gotta get out of here and he was like all right let's go back inside

we went in to ask and now a task force guy he's a local West Palm Beach sheriff who's a DEA task force he comes and tries to be the Good cop. Yeah.

Right. And he sits down next to me. Derek, I know it's hard. And he's like, he's asking me stuff that I did. I absolutely did. You know what I mean? I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about, dude. And they're like, get the fuck out of here.

Get out of here. And I'm like, thank God. Thank God. I'm like, they're not going to arrest me. Like, no, arrest you. Not now. He was like, this is a reverse, a reverse something where they show you their car, a reverse proper. Right.

Right. And I'm like, okay, so we can leave? He's like, yeah, we can get up to leave. I'm like, sit down. And I'm like, you just don't want to leave. I sit down and then they start asking me about the Robbie Eddie thing. And I'm like, yeah, I wasn't there. I don't know.

You know what I mean? I heard a bunch of stuff about that. I wasn't there. And they're like, get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Got up, start walking out. And they're like, my lawyer's name was Ned Reagan. And they're like, Mr. Reagan, you have 24 hours to bring him back here.

here or else he's done that's it this is your last chance i didn't hear from him again until they arrested me a year later it was exactly a year later they arrested me well they finally they came and got me and i talked to him and was like yeah fine whatever how much time i i didn't speak to him at all then chris told me that he cooperated i didn't have a choice we were going to get five years. They said, Chris said you were going to get five years if you cooperate. He's like, you're going to do, no, not me quiet. He said, listen, all we're going to do is I cooperated.

You should cooperate to. All we're going to do is five years. It's not a big deal, right? And I'm like, he was in jail. I went to visit him in jail, and he told me this. And I'm like, he's like, oh, and then we're going to get a drug program. That's going to knock 10 months. You get 50% off.

He's like, dude, we're going to be in jail for like two or three years, no big deal. And I'm like, that's perfect. The Thunder. I'm like, okay. So I left. I was going to, when that happened, Miami Heat were playing Mavericks,

the NBA Finals, 2011. I was like, all right, man. I called my lawyer, and I'm like, listen, I'm going to the fucking heat game tonight,

game six or seven, whatever. Fucking going to see LeBron play. Fucking Novitsky. Right? And, set something up, man. I guess I'm going to cop a deal.

I'm not telling anybody, but you need to cop a deal. He's like, yeah, it doesn't really work that way. And I'm like, okay. So we went down there again, and they were like, this time they were like, everybody else told, bro. That's it. You're not telling us anything. There's nothing to tell. So just tell us your story.

There's nothing. You can't tell on anybody. There's nobody to tell us. on everybody else has already signed a plea deal so i mean tell us the truth about stuff i still fucking lied i still fucking lied but i still lied and they were like all right 20 i was like i couldn't bring myself i was like fuck all right whatever and they're like but you know it's 20 so it's not going to be 20 you know what i mean it could be like a little bit, like, you know, it could be around 15.

You know what I mean? You're going to get a drug program. You're going to get this. You're going to get that knowing full well that I can't get the drug program. I'm not going to get halfway. You're not going to get all that shit when you got a RICO charge and violent charges. You can't get that. Right?

So they're telling me one thing. You're getting a year off for the, for ARDAP. You're going to get this. You're going to get that. But I didn't know. At this time, I didn't know there was a difference between the feds and state prison. You know what I mean? I had no idea.

So they're telling I'm like They're like we'll work it out You know what I mean Tell us the truth about this Tell us the truth about that They asked me about a couple people That

They said we're selling drugs And trafficking drugs And this and that I'm like Let's man The dude's broke He's just a drug addict I have it I have my 302

I'm like dude It's just a drug addict It's like yeah He probably sells some pills just to support his drug habit. He needs to go to rehab. You know what I mean? We're not talking about fucking Al Capone here.

Talking about junkie, right? Ask me stuff about that. Chris, I was like, I don't know, you know, whatever you know, like, two different sides of this. You know what I mean? I ran the administrative side of it. Chris, or Chris did the administrative side.

I ran the office in the people, right? So I'd never seen them do anything wrong, you know, that kind of stuff. They asked me about the kidnapping. I was like, sorry, man, I just, I don't know what you're talking about, right? And they're like, all right, we're going to kick you out of here again. And I'm like, I guess you're going to kick me out. They didn't, what I didn't know was that cadet hadn't cooperating, or she cooperated

and then reneged for cooperation. All right. So I didn't know that, right, but they knew it. And they knew that they needed me to get her. Right. So they were letting me, they weren't. kicking me out, knowing that I was lying. You know what I mean?

And I was like, I just don't know. We're going to kick you out. And they're like, all right. You know, last time it was, last time we came in here, we were a little rough on you. You know what I mean? It turns out you didn't do as much. You know what I mean?

You weren't as bad as we thought you were. And, you know what I mean? If you're saying, you never did this, and I guess we got to believe you. You know what I mean? I'm like, yeah, whatever. And they're like, okay, well, they still didn't say nothing about cooperating.

They asked you about Dr. Cadet. And I was like, yeah, man, I feel real bad about that. I really conned her, you know what I mean? I was really complicit and conned her. She's really naive. Oh, man, did they get mad when I said, you know what I mean? I thought she already took a plea bargain. I was under the oppression.

So I was like, yeah, she's really naive. She's such a nice person, whatever. You know what I mean? This is fucking rough on her, dude. Like, I really went out of my way. to make this easier to keep her around you know if she would have saw some of the things and they were just getting madder and fucking matter and matter because they just blew it you know what i mean like that's a 302 yeah i just said it i can't unsay it right dr cadet's attorney's

getting that paperwork what i just said they uh they were like all right you know what i mean this looks like you uh looks like we'll we'll do a deal for 20 um you uh looks like we'll do a deal for We'll see what your PSI. All that shit comes back to. I left and I was like, holy shit, 20. That's a lot more than five. Yeah. And they set a meeting.

Then they wanted me to sign a plea bargain. And I had a couple days or a week or something to think about it. And I talked to my attorney and I was like, dude, I'm not signed at 20. Get me 10. Right? Get me 10. And I'll sign it. And he went and had a meeting with him.

without me there and they did their own calculations before the PSI he came back and he was like 89 to 108 months max 108 89 being the low end and i'm like fuck yeah that would be great i'm like i'll do it all right come to my office sign the paperwork right where they're going to send it over i went to his office there was no time on it it was a stipulated statement of facts right okay It was about the whole case. My name was in it like three times. But the gist of it was we were an organized crime, drug trafficking, extortion, used crimes of violence, all this kind of stuff.

Basically, it was just saying that as a group, this is what we did, right? Right. No specifics. We use tactics, violent tactics, to achieve our end. this, that kind of stuff, right? But my name wasn't like in it, you know what I mean? And they said, you know, we can't put it on paper, but you're looking at 89 to 108 months.

I was like, give me that fucking pen. Signed a stipulated statement of facts. Done. Court date, month later, go plead guilty to the judge. Okay, sentencing date. Do your PSI, all that shit. My PSA came back and I was like, what the fuck? PSI said,

380 months recommendation all the like everything I ever did plus 20 things I didn't do I mean it was like 50 pages of all I'm like holy shit my attorney's like don't worry about it that has nothing to do with anything yeah that's everything I'm like are you sure he's like yeah dude that's just for like the probation and the administrative end of it we made a deal dude we made a deal 89 to 108 months right you're you're a lawyer and I'm like okay this is a new lawyer this isn't by this time I just took a wheel lawyer right because I didn't want to I was taking a plea bargain what did I need my high price high price lawyer for so I just took this guy it was already done deal I already took the plea

just get me through sentencing right he's telling me yeah don't worry about it man we made a deal he gave me my word he grabbed me by my lapel that's what he told me I said okay man um all right I'm going to trust you. I was like, listen, I think we got to, I think we need to talk about this PSI and object to some things. And he was like, I was like, dude, half the shit never even happened. I don't, I got, I don't have all these assaults on my record, right? They even had like my traffic, illegal U-turns on there to bump up my criminal history,

right? I'm like, illegal you turn in 1998, that's on my PSI, what the fuck? And again, I didn't know anything about this kind of stuff, you know? I'd never gotten that far before. So he's like, don't worry about it. I had to go see this probation officer beforehand. I go to see him and he's like, dude, this is a bad PSI. This is going to follow you your whole time in prison.

I'm like, I'm like, listen, I'm going to do probably five years. I'm not worried about it, right? Oh, my God. And he's like, okay, if you're not worried about it. Is that what the twins got? Do you know what the twins have gotten at this time? No, one of them just got out of prison. No.

Oh, I know. I know I'm saying at this point in the story. No, nobody's been sentenced yet. Who were you talking to from jail that said you're probably going to get five years? Chris was in jail on a different charge. Oh, okay. But it was in a jail on a different charge. Okay, okay.

He's on a jail and a gun charge. Okay. And so, so I signed that thing, right? Yeah. This is before the, I plead guilty. So when I signed that plea bargain, I sign it, but then they set a date where you go. go and accept the plea bargain. So I sign it, send it to them.

And in between signing it and my court date, they arrest us. Okay. They arrest everybody. Right. And now I haven't been talking to anybody, really, right? Right. I don't know how broad this thing is. People, everybody disappears.

So they arrest us at, um, the FBI headquarters in Miami. They call me and say, they call me on a Friday. And they're like Tuesday morning, 5 a.m., be at, they sent me a link or something, be here, that we're going to take you and have you arraigned, right? And I'm like, okay, have my friend drive me down there. And they're like, my attorney is like, they're not going to let you out. This is it. You're not getting out.

Okay? And I'm like, okay. So he's just like, you're going to go to the county jail and you're going to sit at the county jail for a while. So get a gray sweatshirt, three pairs of socks, three pairs of underwear. shoes with no laces so i'm like okay he's like you're not getting now this is it i said okay have my friend drive me down there said my goodbyes walk in and i walk into like a sally port type room there's like five the our fbi d a agents one of the agents that was at the raid at the um the inspection like five years ago right right he's sitting there he's like what's up

Derek and I'm like holy shit he goes you don't recognize me following you around bro waving at me I'm like damn and they're all I look I'm in this sally port and there's about five off so we're like here well the rock star made it you finally made it and I'm like damn I look I don't know exactly what's going on all as I know is that me Chris's wife and Chris's mom are all going down there we drove separately right my friend drove me and I see a bunch of rubber totes right rubber tote three rubber tote boxes empty there's only one with one file in it and it's my file and they grab it my picture's on a wall right there like on a post it right and they're like all smiling yeah it's good to see you man fucking i feel like i know you you know what i mean

i'm like fuck dude all right so it begins i got my sweatshirt on my three pairs of boxers my socks my fucking feet are killing me because they're squeezed three pairs of socks and my shoes with no fucking laces and uh we walk out of the sally port into a big giant room and everybody's there everybody's sitting there handcuffed to their own private desk i'm talking janitors that works for like three weeks four years ago right that couldn't handle work like everybody I'm like, holy shit. People that I didn't know it. They had people on witness protection from me, like in Kansas and shit because they were

cooperating and afraid that I was going to come hunt them down. They were sleeping with shotguns at night. So they relocated people waiting on this day that were. And I didn't know any of it. You know what I mean? The janitor that hadn't worked there since 2008, right? I see him like, what's up, Drew? You know what I mean?

He was always a pussy. He couldn't ever hang with our crowd. You know what I mean? He worked for a couple weeks, got rid of him. I had no idea who was part of the case. I see him, sit there. I'm like, what's up? He's like, like, like this.

I walk in, I'm not handcuffed or nothing, right? I just walk in, everybody else is cuffed to the desk. To each, everybody has a little two-person desk. They got an agent, their handcuffed to the desk, they're in the other chair. They bring me over to this. area where there's like 10 cops right i'm wearing the shirt i'm wearing now i was wearing a gray sweatshirt it's a weekend before this so this is a tuesday morning

over the weekend before me and my girl went came over here to tampa went to burn steakhouse knowing i was going away right met some people they gave me these people gave me powder in a receipt from burned steakhouse folded up origami style I put it in my fifth pocket and forgot about it right I'm wearing those pants right so they bring me over to the air

put me up against the wall and they're patting me down they pull my fifth pocket open reach in what's this they grab the fucking thing he's wearing a a DEA vest black with yellow lettering right hat on backwards he's one of the street guys you know tough guy they're like pushing me and you know what i mean

like being smart asses to me he's like what is this he fucking pulls it open like this boof fucking coke goes all over his mustache down it's like a gram dude it was like psh and he's like didn't even notice and he's just like and i'm looking and i see it all over the black vest and i'm like holy shit and he looks at the receipt he goes pay $200 for a fucking steak they're fucking idiot crumples the thing up and sticks it in my pocket i'm like holy shit i'm watching them the rest of the time i'm there i'm watching him and he's fucking doing this and i'm like holy fuck dude but i'm like whatever it's a fucking graham i'm looking at fucking all this time so uh they take me set me down at the thing and i see it i'm seeing

all the old doctors like i haven't seen these guys forever it's been years and years four years, three years. I'm seeing everybody and I'm like, what's up? Hey, how you doing it? And everybody. Like doing it, I'm like, what's the deal? You know what I mean?

What's the problem? Well, they've all cooperated. So they're scared. But I didn't know that they were cooperating against me. Right. You know what I mean? I thought this was like, I didn't know that they used me to get themselves.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Why me? Right? I had no idea. So then that agent, special agent Turner comes up to me. And she's, hey, Derek, man, I knew you had to know this day was coming, right? You know, and they ask you all these questions.

Another agent comes, sits with me, ask me questions. And I'm like ear hustling. I hear Ethan, the guy, he's the ex-cop that Chris hired, who turned on everybody, wore why, all this shit. I'm listening to him talk to the, and everybody else is in, like, suits. You know what I mean? Dress nice, suits and stuff. And here I am, a pair of jeans, gray sweatshirt, three pairs of socks. three pairs of underwear.

And I'm like, what if all these motherfuckers are going home? Right? And I'm like looking at him and stuff. Diana, Chris's mom, all dressed, nice.

And I'm like, hmm. So I'm listening to Ethan. He's over there like cracking jokes, talking with the Asian like their best friends. Right? Like, oh yeah,

how you doing? When we leave here, can I come with you? He's saying, he's like, I don't want to ride with these fucking guys. You know how it is, man.

I'm like, what fuck, I hear another guy over here. um the agent talking to him about his family how's your daughter doing how's that like was your christmas okay was it and i'm like sitting there going what the fuck another guy oh man i'm sorry agent turner you know this has been really stressful for me i'm sorry i called you all those times at home when i you know i'd get a couple drinks in me and i get scared i really appreciate all the help you gave me and all that i'm sitting there going i know one person here right right and that's

because they did a raid on me, you know what I mean? I don't like, something, this is not right, right? So then after you do all your little check your boxes, question and answer, they would uncuff you, right? And it was like a gymnasium is like what it was, but like that cheap indoor carpet,

like a gymnasium, it was like separate, remind me of being in a school, like a real government building kind of thing. And there was a row of chairs, probably like 50 chairs up, up, against one wall. I would notice, I was noticing, I was the last one there.

So I was noticing that when you finish your thing, they would uncuff you and tell you to go take a seat in those chairs in order, right? And then they were coming and doing a DNA swab. And then everybody was just like sitting there, right? And like some of the doctors were like 90 by this time. They had doctors in there with IV bags and masks on and the agents were shoving,

McDonald's into their mouths because they were diabetic and they had to eat at certain times and shit. I'm like, what? This is a fucking, this is insanity. I'm watching this whole thing go down. So everybody's sitting there, right? And then Diana and Chris's mom, Denise, they get done and they go sit chairs and I'm still sitting there, finish up. Go have a seat over there next to Diana. I'm like, okay, I go over there I sit down next to Diana. I'm like, hey, you're doing all right, you know, I know this sucks. We're just talking. I look down. I see

this one guy Drew looking at me and he's like got a couple doctors with masks and IV bags around him. Like one here, one here, him sitting there and he fucking jumps up. And he's like, get him away from me. He's going to kill me. He's already

looking at me. And I'm like, me and Diana are looking at him and we're like, damn, we're thinking one of the doctors said something to him right you know what i mean we're like what what's going on and these guys these d a fbi guys come running in the room and like jump on them like they jumped on trump when he got shot right right they're like fucking like this like there's a fucking being down here like god damn i do dr dresser's 85 years old man what's he gonna do what the hell's go we're like kind of like laughing about it we're just whatever next thing you know a whole other fucking jump out crew comes

in the room and grabs my ass and slams me underground and it's like you're trying to fucking intimidate people motherfucker you take your bad you're in my fucking house right now like pushing my head in the ground fucking yelling at me and shit i'm like what the fuck is going on handcuff me behind my back take me in another room throw me in her straight chair right leave me and i'm like what just happened what is going on and i still have no idea and i hear the door's kind of shut and they got two guys standing outside the door they didn't restrain me in a restrained chair but they just sat me in it

right and they're walking my call him like what's going on with him oh man he's the fucking dangerous one he's the one you know what I mean very violent very dangerous got to be careful this is a volatile situation you know what I mean he's threatening these other people these other I'm like your ear hustling here

I'm like what the fuck I just drove down here and turned myself into these motherfuckers yeah you let me walk around this whole time I'm like what is going on right So what they were doing after they took your DNA, they were processing everybody and putting them on a bus outside, right? So I had to wait for all 50 people or however many it was for them, get them on a bus, then come in and get me, process me, take me outside, and I can't, they won't let me on the same bus as everybody else, right? I'm like, what the fuck? They put me in like the cage part of the bus, right?

like I'm like what is what's the deal here what I'm not understanding what it turned out to be we even when they drove us all away from Miami to the west Palm Beach federal courthouse right and they made me wait in a parking garage while everybody else got arraigned and then when everybody else got arraigned and got to the release cells they were all getting a surrety bond when they got to the release cells after the arraignment they came and got me because nobody wanted to see me everybody was afraid and I'm like Like, dude, this is just it. Because I've been out of it.

I haven't been having Christmas with the FBI agents that fucking, they don't know my kids' names. They don't, you know what I mean? I'm like, what is going on, dude? So they bring me up. And I still had my paid lawyer at that time. And they arraigned me. And I wasn't expecting to go home. And he's like, listen, everybody else in his case cooperated.

and it's gotten a surrey bond. Right. My client's not staying in here. Right. Everybody else, they're from all over. He's never left. He's at the same place he lived. Right?

He's never gone anywhere. Anytime you guys asked for him, he's never ran. You took his passport before anything even happened. He hasn't done nothing. He's not going anywhere. He's not, whatever. It's whatever, you know? And they were like, he's right.

And they were like, all right, certibond. $250,000 surity bond. bond i signed it then they took me out and they put me in the damn cells with all these people that are hiding like they put me in a cell they were like oh oh and it's like there's two cells and they're like hiding in a corner give me out of here give me out of here and I'm like what is going on dude what I'm like what's happening I'm like trying to talk to these people like do they know something that I don't know like I'm your friend dude what what's the deal I didn't tell on you what like no oblivious to the fact

that every single word I ever said, every joke I ever played, that they're now trying to, they knew at the time I was joking around when I threw a Chinese star at them, right? They knew it was a joke. Right? You do know those stick, right?

Yeah, I wouldn't throw it. I throw it next to them. You know what I mean? I'd stick it in a wall. They'd be doing their work or something like that and their head down and I throw one and it would stick in a wall. They knew it was a joke at the time.

You know, there was only a couple of them that complained about it, you know? So, I have a feeling that Dr. What was it, Dr. Graham? Yeah. Dr. Graham. Yeah, Dr. Graham doesn't seem like somebody he would have taken that. He wouldn't have thought that was funny. I mean, he didn't have, Dr. Graham didn't have a choice.

He was so in debt, right? He didn't have a choice, but he snapped on me so many times. And I'd be like, Dr. Graham, just leave. I don't need you. I have 17 doctors. Right. You come in on Tuesdays. Right.

And see four patients from 430 and you ask me for $1,000 and then you probably go to the fucking hard rock. Right. I'm like, I don't need you. I just hire somebody. What did you hire somebody else for? I want more hours. And I'm like, dude. You just said you were, you didn't want to do this.

I know what this place is, Derek. I know what you are. I'm like, okay. Whatever. What's the problem? Either work or don't. I'm not begging you to stay here, motherfucker. Then get back in there and start writing scripts.

What are we talking about? I'm like, don't have somebody come out here with a script with 20 fucking pills on it. I was like, get in there and fucking write them what I fucking tell you to write them kind of thing, you know? So anyway, you're in the room. So, yeah, I mean, and everybody's freaking out. And marshals, they, like, now we're in martial custody. Yeah. So I guess the DEA and the FBI guys didn't inform the marshals that, like, there was a separate team

between me and like these people were fucking scared bro and i'm like dude i'm not gonna it was like starting to come reality but they made me wait they separated me again eventually and then when they separated me again i started going in on everybody i'm like you're a fucking pussy drew drew you're a fucking pussy i'm gonna fucking kill you when i fucking see you right just like i'm joking right but that sense of humor listen they fucking they did i didn't do i was never going to do anything to these people i never even thought that i was as high on their list you know what i mean i was like these people aren't going to tell on me i didn't do anything to them right yeah fuck around with them but i'll throw a chinese star at your head joking around scary a little bit and then i'll

fucking buy lunch what's the fucking problem you know what i mean i'll pick you up i'll buy your clothes if you need fucking clothes i give you a fucking job right I let you fucking skim your little tips off the top You know what I mean So what I like to fucking Buy swords off the internet And force people to have sword fights In the middle office every now and that

You know what I mean It's fucking I get bored Right It's a joke It's not a big deal I'm with you I hear you It sounds like a lot of fun It was fun

You know what I mean You know what I mean You know Like Drew also was like This guy we'd buy a boat That does like a hundred 170 miles an hour. What do you think we're going to do when we get on an ocean?

They said it does 170 miles an hour. You think we're going to? Of course we're going to. We get out there and fucking hit the fucking throttle a quarter of the way. We're doing 70. Oh my God, fucking stop. I'm not going to stop, right? So, and you take me back.

Take me back kind of thing. You know what I mean? It's not worth it, guys. You know, one of these fucking fruitcakes. So, of course, I antagonized them. But that doesn't mean you got to tell on me and make up some kind of fucking story, right? You know what I mean?

Like, this was all good, fun, childish, yes. We were in good fun. You were never in grave danger. There was a possibility that I could have had some fucking Polynesian sauce from the egg rolls on my hand. You know what I mean? The lunch egg rolls and it could have fucking. slipped out of my hand and maybe nick the ear or something, right?

But for the most part, nobody ever got seriously injured or anything like that. And it was, again, it was all in good fun, right? And they used all that against me, like I was some kind of fucking monster tyrant, like torturing people. You know what I mean? It's not true, you know what I mean? Probably with a, I wouldn't say I'm a nice guy, but I'm a pretty good guy. you know what I mean and how much like how much time what's your what was your sentence how

how much times you get well let me tell you this story let me let me I don't know I don't have to go anywhere I can I got all day this I'll finish this up real quick okay so we get there and they end up letting me go like I said now we're down in the cages right and then they separate me because everybody's crying like little bitches and then like that's when I found out the one guy the feds moved him to kansas to keep him away from me because they wouldn't let me go until they found out he boarded his plane and was going back to kansas the fucking goddamn marshal i put a addition on his house so i knew him from fucking 10 years ago right he's like dude i can't let my sister my girlfriend were waiting for me right we're gonna they're waiting

for me to get out everybody else been out for two hours and uh marshal i'm like dude what the fuck Why don't you let me go? And they, like, to kill time, they took me and did the whole tattoos, pictures, all that. And they didn't do that to anybody else. You know what I mean? And he's like, listen, dude, you know what I mean? I know you. But you're fucking with these people.

And that one guy, he's in fucking Kansas because he's fucking afraid of you. You're fucked, bro. And I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, are you serious? He's like, yeah, dude. He's like, every one of these people that were in here before you, they all pointed their finger at you. it was all you you hired them you paid them you did i'm like holy shit dude the whole time i was

like yeah chris and jeff are gonna get fucked on this thing right and then that's when i realized like i was there with chris and jett like yeah right like they were looking at me like because then when we're doing the arraignment they were telling me that like these people were getting arraigned on wire fraud, laundering $5,000, right? When they gave me mine, there was five charges totaling 360 years in prison. And I'm like, oh, man. And I was like, like, they had me for the fraud, too. I didn't recommend any fraud, but just by some idiot, Chris Hudson, using our merchant

account to rob somebody, right, to do a fraudulent transaction for a time share. He would use our merchant account that made me guilty by conspiracy of fraud because Chris let him use. I didn't even know he was doing it. But I was labeled the enforcer for organized crime group. So I am responsible for every fucking pill, every prescription, every fucking, I didn't know this is how the feds worked. You know what I mean? I brought that fucking after I left my lawyer's office, I brought that stipulated statement of facts to my grandma's house. I was like, listen, it's going to be a piece of cake.

They don't got me named in anything. Meanwhile, I was named on everything. Right? So it started, I admit to being part of a criminal conspiracy that did all this. Right. And it was probably four pages long, and my name was probably in there four times. So I thought they were only charging me with those four times that they, right? No idea.

No fucking idea. So they end up letting me go. and i have to come back to plead guilty right come back a month later plead guilty and i'm sitting there and like they really cross her t's and dot their eyes with the guilty right like are you sure that no promises were made to you are you sure that when they tell you this is your um sentence range that that is just a guess that are you sure that you weren't coerced in any way are you sure and I'm like yeah dude why are we fucking going through all these theatrics

yeah and you're going through all these theatrics because they're gonna fuck you yeah because when they fuck you they want you to be able to they want they want to make sure they said oh he would fully understood what he was signed yes so because they're they're winding up to fucking ramming home with no fucking Vaseline dude I was like okay yeah yes yes your honor yes your honor yes your honor okay um set sentencing for december okay got to do a PSI all this shit go to the PSI place sit down with my lawyer the first thing that the PSI lady asked me right not hi how you're doing nothing like that she has a file on me already and we found that out

remember when we did my um uh what's that claim of information information act and they it's supposed to be free and there were so many files on me that it was it was $2,900 or something like that and they had mentioned him because they'll not like it's not just his case suddenly his name came up in all these other cases it's like what is this case what you're going I don't know like other people in other cases were mentioning Derek me over and these weren't little cases these are multiple other cases that he's like I've fucking no idea who that is or there was something like 20,000 pages is it was a lot 20,000 pages in my FBI because that's what we asked for my FBI file yeah I'd never I'd never had anybody I've had people charge I mean I've

had them come back and once or twice charge 120 bucks 50 bucks but pretty much almost nobody's ever like mine was mine was thousands and thousands of pages didn't charge me anything I remember probably one was three grand probably 4,000 in page yeah I was like wow that's pretty uh so um we didn't know that then right so they do the PSI I go sit down with the lady and the first thing she says to me she has a big file the first thing she says to me is do you have any remorse or do you feel guilty about um your role in your mother's death what the fuck you were fucking four I was four I go huh I was fucking four and she looks at my you're gonna let him talk to me like that this isn't gonna go well and I'm like

I'm sorry what are you talking about and she was like flipping through and she's like I mean do you have any scars and I'm like go to answer I don't know what about all the ones on your face are those from fighting

let me guess from fighting and I'm like what is like I thought this was like a PSI was like the good thing where you come in there and you tell them the good things right in your life You know what I mean? Yeah.

Right? And it just went terrible, dude. It went fucking terrible. Like, it was, we were bickering back and forth. And my attorney was sitting there like, this is now, now it was the state or government appointed attorney. And he's just sitting there like, oh, my God. And me and this lady are bickering back and forth. And she is accusing me of things.

And I'm like, I'm like, dude, that's not me. I don't know where you're getting that from. I don't know that person. And she's like, I mean, if you're not going to what it means to accept responsibility because you get three points off for acceptance or responsibility. And she kept going over what it means to accept responsibility. You have to be contrite. But sitting here telling me that you didn't do this and you didn't do that and you weren't

responsible for this and all that kind of stuff. And I'm like, I don't even know what you're talking about. Yes, I ran this fucking panicle. I did all this shit, right? All this stuff, I don't know what fucking talking about. I'm like, I don't know how this is going to go And then she's like a drug test And I was like, oh fuck

I didn't know that I was going to take a drug test here I just popped the fucking percicep the night before So I'm then I go in there I fucking fail the drug test I'm like dude They're like what Why do you have perk set in your system I'm like fucking

I had it left over from a dentist My tooth was hurt and so I took it I still got the prescript I mean I did have the bottle. It was like three years old, right? And I'm like, I didn't know, I didn't know I couldn't do that. I'm sorry. You didn't know you couldn't do that. That's what this whole case is about. And I'm like, listen, I have the pill bottle, right? So I brought him the pill bottle and it was 2009. It had like four percassette fives or something in it, whatever. Anyway, that doesn't go well. The PSI comes back. It's terrible. The fucking probation department's recommended 240 months.

Um, all this shit. But when my attorney's like, I'm asking him, I'm saying, dude, should we, um, object to some of the stuff? Get this shit out of here. And he's like, no, don't worry about it. Listen, we got to deal with Paul. I grabbed him by his lapel. I looked him in the eye. You're going to get, he's going to recommend 89 to 108 months.

You know what I mean? He's like, you didn't fight. Didn't fight him. You came in. You, as far as I know, you told the truth. it just got to the point where there was nobody left to tell on right you cooperated as much as you could cooperate um why would he break the deal and i'm like okay because he never had any intention to keep to begin with i'm like all right whatever set the sentencing December 16th 9 a.m.

I get to the courthouse go to the room I'm with chris's dad John George and worker for that worked with John a girl they drive me there we walk into the courthouse get to the court room right there's my lawyer there's a federal prosecutor about five marshals IRS agent FBI agent the age stop you right there mr. Nolan there's somebody else getting sentenced right now has a separate T and a P P P.O. against you. He's being sentenced. His anonymity is required. Why don't you step into this room over here? There's a little, there's a little conference rooms right outside every courthouse. You know what I mean? Like little teeny rooms as big as this. Yeah. I'm like, oh shit. John,

they tell John, you can go inside John. I know John now. Right. I'm like, okay. I'm thinking, okay, I'm just going to go in his room and I wait until he's done and they'll take him away. take him away and that'll be it'll go in there we go in there and he pulls out a stack of paper stack of papers like this he's like um here's the new deal all right no promises were made to you new evidence has come to light um 240 months and he slides the stack of paperwork over to me it is 302s from probably 100 people from there's Chris's in there Jeff's Jeff had five of them in there telling a different story every time um all the people involved in the kidnapping all the people involved in the extortion every person that

ever worked for me in the four years three four years that this went on the janitors the maids three one so many that I couldn't read them right right stack of them this big and I'm like what the fuck he's like listen man

you know before it was going to be like the wire fraud and this and that so you know that puts you at a level you're at a level 31 or something like that now when we add all this up you're at a level 42 okay

now listen uh you turn yourself in that's a two point reduction 40 then um you accepted responsibility although um the uh probation officer here is going to object to accepting responsibility so that's three points off so you're looking at a level 37 um you are looking at um 151 to 200 40 months, and it's going to be up to probation and the judge on what you get. We won't argue your lawyer can ask for the 151 months. But, you know, our office, we won't argue against the 151 months. But, you know, it's not in our hands anymore. So you're either that or we tear this up and we can get set for trial.

And I'm like, what? So it went from five years to now a minimum of 13 years, right, and a maximum of 20. You got an 11C, you know what I mean? So we can't go over the 240. And I'm like, oh, thanks. That's great, dude. I look at my lawyer. He's like, that's, yeah, they looked out for you.

You should thank him. And I'm like, you fucking, what happened? motherfucker what happened the lapel yeah yeah you grabbed them by the lapel and you looked him in the eyes yeah what the fuck i'm like okay well derrick we're gonna go ahead in uh we'll give you the room

let it sink in and we'll come get you when um the other guys go out i'm like okay you're you make the decision so i'm like what the fuck i can't i don't have my phone i can't make any phone calls no nothing i'm upset i go they get the guy out of there

it ended up being that guy drew right and they come and get me and there's like two or three other people lower echelon people in the whole thing in there getting sentenced the first one this big giant dude 250 pounds solid muscle 19 years old 6 5 big giant tough guy seen him fighting before all right the drug addict get sentenced to nine months burst out into tears nine months next guy comes up he gets fucking 14 months first into tears everything and i'm like fuck they leave i go up there and um they give their spiel whatever and they're saying it's a riko case the rico predicates are kidnapping and extortion with a drug trafficking relevant conduct and this and that and with my prior criminal history which is driving

right and a prosecutor's like um you know you know 20 years and we're going to give him three points off for acceptance or responsibility and he turned himself in so that's one or two points whatever and judge like okay he's reading a PSI and he's like um are you going to testify against anybody or anything like that can i expect you back here for a rule 35 and they're like uh yeah yeah somebody not me they're like yes i did no idea cadet was going to trial at this point right and they're like yep we got a co-defendant we're going to need his and he's like okay then that's cool you know what i mean so we can do this high end and then you know he'll get you know what do you guys thinking he's like i don't know we'll see

how much his cooperation goes okay so we'll go the high end does our probation have anything to say the lady stands up puts on a whole fucking she disagrees i should get the 20 this and that i'm not uh I haven't accepted responsibility under their terms. They said, I'm like, holy shit. So a judge is like, let's, man, we'll just do the 151. We'll do on the low end. Do you care, prosecutor? Prosecutor.

I do not care. 151's fine. I'm like trying to calculate that in my head, but my whole world just fell apart. You know what I mean? And I'm like 15 months. That's like 15 years. I'm thinking I'm doing by 10 instead of 12, you know? And I'm like, holy shit.

And then probation objects again. and they're like no no no no no we found this this and this you got to take away you got to add this one this point and we got an illegal you turn on here so that's going to bring them up to the next level on a criminal history blah blah blah um we won't accept anything less than 168 much and a judge is like 168 boom see you later report to prison April 27th for a U-turn Yeah, they bought that's on my PSI You can see it on my PSI And legal U-151

To 168 You gave me an extra 17 months In prison Actually a year almost a year and a half For a U-turn Boom I hope to see you back here For a real 35 someday

Mr. Nolan good luck And I was like That's it That's it I go outside We walk downstairs I'm like What is the fuck

They gave me a date I had to turn myself into prison Told me they went they took actually took me um took all pictures of my tattoos take a shirt off strip naked all that shit did all that shit again um they gave me they got all my information said i would get a letter in the mail in the next uh 60 days tell me where to report to prison on what date um i walk outside and all the people that got sentenced before me with their nine months and their 14 months and they're fucking no one guy got two years house arrest because he was so fat that he would die

in prison because he could he had money and he could get unlimited food so there would be nobody to restrain him from eating himself to death so he got two years of house arrest and mandatory nutrition counseling or some shit like that everybody's out there crying oh my god there i mean i heard you got a lot of time but what am i going to do i got nine months I mean, you know how long that is? I'm like, you fucking piece of shit. That guy, that got nine months fucking overdose. He's dead.

Good job on that one. System really saved his life there. But, yeah, it was all these people's 302. I got a stack of them like this. And I didn't even have time to read them all. It was just like, I mean, there was people that weren't even at the kidnapping situation. That were given testimony. We're giving testimony.

and 302s. Yeah, I was there too, man. He really fucked him up. He was pistol whipping him all this shit. Fucking holding the gun to his head, making him make phone calls, going through all this shit. I'm like, what? I don't even know who this person is. Right.

I got another guy in there saying, on this date, I picked up 300 Roxy's from Derek at this address, which was that address that I hadn't lived in two years prior to the date that he picked it up. And I was also. in South Carolina at my brother's graduation during this on this date wasn't even I haven't seen the guy in five years he didn't even work at the clinic

somehow he got his hands on 300 pills try to sell him to an undercover heard that I was working at a pain collect said I got him for me there's 302 man listen we just can't let this kind of stuff slide there I mean you're gonna have to do this you gotta pay for this man karma's a bitch I'm like I can't believe what just fucking happen

I got fucking boom it's terrible so hey guys um i got a good friend of mine needs a little help he has his heart failure needs a new heart and some aftercare doing everything we can to try to help him and his family out um if you like to show please donate to the cause hope help live um thanks a lot for your help sorry but we ran out of time today uh Derek's going to come back and he's going to go over part two because we didn't have time to go over sentencing, prison, him getting out, and he'll be back. So please go in the description box, click the link. Thank you very much. See ya.