Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - The Story Behind the Blake Lively Allegations | Insider Explains

Episode Date: May 13, 2026

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you know and love, past, present, and future. Subscribe now on your favorite podcasting platform or watch us on YouTube so you never miss a beat. Let's make sense of this industry together. I've worked with Ron Reynolds. They're trying to cover up a crime. She used Taylor Swift, her best friend, to intimidate him, it's all very manipulative.

The more little pieces that get released, the more we're like, oh, man, this woman is scary. This is like a Hollywood true crime. We're getting pieces coming out. Every lawsuit and every complaint that are filling us in on what, actually happened. And that's what I think so myself and so many people are invested in. I didn't know this Justin Baldoni guy was. And no offense didn't really care. Right. But the more I'm,

I'm learning about what Blake lively and Ryan Reynolds seemingly did. They're trying to cover up a crime. That's what I really do think is happening here. She came out with allegations of sexual harassment. That's how it started. There was a lot of drama in the summer when the film, it ends with us released. And a lot of people were sort of following the drama, wondering why was their drama. No one really understood until she later dropped the lawsuit like two days before Christmas to ruin all their holidays. But that first drama was people were sort of just noticing that Blake lively was not the nicest person. Like she was a mean girl, tone deaf for things that were being called out. And just for sake of brevity, like the two big things were she was promoting her alcohol brand

about during a film that's about domestic violence, which was just a really bad look given that most domestic violence is triggered by alcoholism. But she's, you know, named one of the drinks at the premiere after the user character in the movie. It was just a really bad look. And then beyond that, people just got an attitude from her during all the junkets and interviews, particularly this one junket that sort of resurfaced

where she and Parker Posey, an actress, like really were just mean-girling this poor junket woman who posts the video. Like, this is the interview that made me want to quit Hollywood. So there was just a lot of stuff piling up that made Blake not seem very likable. And that's where I got

in on it when that started happening. And then Ryan, was writing the movie. There was a point where I jumped in and many jumped in and it just became organically viral because everyone was sort of like, what's up with Blake lively? She seems kind of, you know, B-word and mean girl and all these things.

She had a lot of bad press and she refused to accept it. So what happened was I think she tried to re, you know, paint it all as I was harassed. He was retaliating. Right. It wasn't my issue. Yeah, yeah.

It's being spun against me and that's not what was happening at all. You know, it's funny, I saw an interview with, there was a movie she did called a simple favor or a favor or something like that. I mean, a great movie. What's fun? What is the girl that- Anna Kendrick. But during an-

I was way more into Anna Kendrick. I was like- Oh, yeah. She's adorable. But during an interview, she mentions that, like, she makes a comment, I remember, about Blake not when she said something like, yeah, when she shows up. for set or made some snide little comment. And I remember the look that, you know, Blake gave her. And I just kind of remember thinking something's up there.

Like there's lots of little things that come out. Like, hey, you're not this sweet, wonderful person. And it's the same thing with Ron Reynolds. Like, I was just going to say, yeah. Like, I love Deadpool, right? But you see these characters and you fall in love with them. And then you find out, oh, he's kind of a fucking tool. I have a friend who played a, used to play, go to,

Vegas and and I used to like a Judd Law. He played next to Judd Law. Jude Law. Jude Law. Sorry, Jude Law. It's like Judd Nelson. Jude Law, yes. Jude Law. So he said, and he's English. So he said, I'm playing cards with him. He said, and we're sitting there playing. He said, I mean, we're sitting there for an hour or two. And he said, these two girls come up to him and said, oh my gosh, you know, I loved you in, you know, whatever, Cold Mountain or whatever. you know, could I get your, your autograph? And he goes, I'm fucking playing cards. This is my personal fucking time.

He goes, you fucking wankas. He goes, why is nobody keeping these fucking, you know, and he starts, he freaks out. And they're like, oh, my God. And walks off. And so they kind of, somebody comes in and says, hey, you got to come. And they get rid of her. And then my buddy's sitting there. And he's like, like, we had a, you know, talked briefly.

Like, he's like, he didn't, he just went off. And he was in the guy he looked at. him and said he's like it's all the fucking time with these fucking wankers or whatever and he said my buddy looked at him and he goes i mean honestly brother just wanted an autograph like what's the big he goes it's all the fucking time you understand i'll defend him like imagine being that everywhere you fucking go here's listen i'll tell you and this may be the narcissist in me but like let's face it if you're if you're an actor when you were struggling begging to be able to make a living as an actor you would have given your soul of course but when you're

You're playing, well, you got money on the line? You're playing cards. I don't care. You're worth 20 million. Sign the fucking autograph. Be appreciative. You know, I'll take. I mean, I agree with you in theory, of course.

But I can see a little bit of like, I can't. But he was like. It never ends. I mean, I can't imagine being a level of Jude Law. Like, every girl is just, you, it, it, I'd be thrilled. I'd be thrilled. Listen, I'm not saying that the girls. Tell us in the comments down below.

I'm saying. Blessing or a curse. In general. People, I'm sure people recognize you, right? It's happened. Yes, it's happened. Listen, I get recognized. It's happened at Target where I'm like, I'm having a fight with my wife or something.

And that's where I get even most and secure about my God, did they, are they watching us? Are you about the frost of flakes? Listen, I get those. I'm like, I want to get them. You know, like, and I'm like, oh, God, there's a fan watching. It's happened where I'm like, hi. Oh, I drop everything. If somebody says, aren't you Matt Cox?

I'm like, boom. Yes, I am. How are you? Let's take a photo. What's up? No, I do that too. I'm thrilled. I know.

It happens to all. And I'm always happy. You have to be, especially at our level where it's like, we're not Jude Law. No offense. We're not a Jude Law level of talent. This is that guy saying hi to me and, oh, my gosh, I watch yourself. That's the reason I don't have to have a real job. 100%.

I have stickers. I have stickers in my wife. If someone stops me, I'm like, oh, hey, like in the middle. My wife is on top of it too. But we're like, hey, oh, my God, anytime someone says, I give you a sticker. And they love that moment. We need stickers. When you give them that moment, of course you're, I'm with you.

But I'm just saying, I can't imagine being at a Brad Pitt Jude Law level where everywhere you go, you can't do anything private. Like, it's not an excuse. I'm not given. But that's all I'm saying. I can give him a little bit. But you're right. It's like these celebrities can be assholes.

Yeah. It's a reality. And that's why the. People are expecting like, oh my God, yeah. And they're not. Well, the Ryan Reynolds thing, I would think that he would be, you know, everybody like, I see him as one person. And then the truth is, apparently, he's not a nice guy. Well, it's funny.

I worked with Ryan Reynolds. Really? I actually worked with Ryan Reynolds. So that's where I've been conflicted about this whole story because I did a show called honest trailers way back, which is very popular, very proud of it. and we did honest trailer for Deadpool and we reached out to Ryan Reynolds and he ended up appearing

in his own honest trailer. We wrote the script for him. He was so collaborative, like so nice. Like I had such a good level of like people would ask, what's the best celebrity you've worked with? And I was always like,

The Rock and Ryan Reynolds were the two best people I'd worked with which I'd always heard problems with. Now, granted, they were being created with me that may have been on their best behavior because of who we were at the time, but still I had really great experience. And then even later he went above and beyond

when we did a follow-up for our Logan trailer. So anyway, it was weird because I went through with this like, oh my God, he really is the nice Canadian collaborative guy. What about the guy that plays the bartender in Deadpool? So T.J. Miller, he, I mean, he has, he has, many people have called him an asshole. Okay. And he was like, I mean, I don't, I'm not saying it was true, but there were a lot of allegations. He got canceled at a certain point, like, and his castmates of Silicon Valley kind of talked shit.

So he doesn't, he doesn't like Ronald. Well, he took it back. He took it back. Oh. He took it back. So it's like, no, I watch that clip. How can you know if any of that is true? Like when people backed up.

I think he's being truthful. I think he had a bad experience with Ryan. He called him out. But I think it's not a surprise that Ryan can be a bit of a dick. Like, that's his humor. Right. He's, he is deadpool. Like, it's so clear when he, he's self-effacing.

He's not an actor. Blake Lively is sort of trying to be lady pool and do the same type of thing. He's not an actor. He's like, he's like Vince Fawn. Vince Vaughn plays Vince Vaughn in every single movie. Or Van Diesel, exactly. That's it. It's one note.

I would argue even the Rock. Exactly. They haven't shown much range beyond what they can do. But, you know, they do it very successfully. They're not Arnold. Arnold's got all kinds of range. Kindergarten cop, you know, come on. Commando, total recall.

Right. Get you as to Maz. Yeah, but I think that's part of the appeal of seeing for so many audience members of like, oh man, Ryan Reynolds and Blake lively are now like their stocks falling down for this. I've never seen a story in a long time. maybe, I mean, since Amber Heard, where I feel like a celebrity's PR is so wrong. Yeah. Like, every step Blake lively has done in this process just has made me dislike her more and more.

And again, I'm not some Justin Baldoni fan. Like, I didn't know who this guy was. He was on Jane the Virgin and hosts a podcast about masculinity, whatever. Like, no shade. But I've only defended him because I've been watching Blake's sort of manipulation, narcissism, like ego, manicical. Like, there was a whole text that got dropped where she's like, she was basically, the real story, it seems, from Justin's lawsuit is she was trying to take control

the movie, like before it even shot. Justin wasn't just her co-star, director, producer, but he got the rights to the book before it was popular all over the world. And you could just tell she wanted the rights. She wanted to control, she wanted to direct the movie. And that's coming out in all the text exchanges and crew people. Like, they didn't have a good creative control, you know, connection on the movie. But there was a text exchange before even shooting where she basically, he admits that she used Taylor Swift, her best friend, and Ryan Reynolds, her husband, who are both billionaire, crazy, famous people,

to sort of intimidate him to accept her rewrites of a scene in the movie, like a key scene in the movie. She kind of bullies him into doing it and then, like, confronts him with both of them in the room. Like, I can't imagine suddenly your direct this movie with your co-star, and then she's brought in two of the biggest celebrities in the world

that sort of mad dog you and like, what do you think of her scenes? Like, do you want to work again? Do you want Taylor to be involved? Like as a Hollywood player, you've got to be nice to these people or they can burn you is typically what happens. And so Blake did it. And we can see the text messages where she sort of, these two are my dragons. I'm Calisi.

She's like calling herself Calisi from Game of Thrones and labeling Ryan Reynolds, the big, one of the biggest stars. And Taylor Swift, a huge star as her beautiful monsters, her dragons, they're mine. Like, I don't know about you. But would you like finding out that your people are out there talking behind your back saying that you're their monsters? and that she basically uses you for will for better or worse. Yeah, it's weird for someone to, yeah, it's an odd thing to say in general. Yeah, yeah. Like she's manipulating and she's using her relationship with these people to get herself somewhere.

And I find it disgusting. So that kind of stuff keeps dropping and you're just like, this isn't a good look. So the movie comes out. We know that there's a bunch of drama going on. And then suddenly, and it's not looking good for her, so she drops a lawsuit. I have a question. if you're an attorney and you sit down with her, like wouldn't you have vetted what she's saying?

Like, hey, like, Blake, is anything going to come out? Like, did you ever say? I mean, she's just going, no, absolutely not. Absolutely. I mean, wouldn't you say, oh, great, give me your, like, all of this is going to be subject to discovery. So he's going to get your text message. He's going to get everything.

He's got them on his phone already. Like, it's more messed up. Okay. So they stole all the text messages from one of the PR people. So it's like there's this legal, blue gray area, sir, as I'm trying to say. where one of the PR people who they're claiming did a smear campaign against Blake, which I don't buy. She is a whole, this is where we get more into the weeds of the story, but there's all these publicists.

That's what we're here for. There are all these publicists that are getting exposed. And that's part of the fun of this, too, of this true crime nature, just like. Publicists wouldn't twist anything. Of course, right. But that's their job to do, right? And so now they're being labeled, oh, you went too far. And it's like, really?

Isn't that what PR is all about? And so PR's now on this, you know, questioning block of just like, did they go too far? They went and found this woman, Jennifer Abel, who was a publicist, who was working for another woman named Stephanie Jones. These are key players. If you guys are going to get in this case, you've got to know. Stephanie Jones is like this notorious, toxic PR person, like alleged when the Rock left her, she then leaked all these stories that he was peeing on bottles on sets and it was always laid and was a pain in the ass. And so when Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez left, she reped them too, she started talking about all this bad press about Lauren Sanchez. Like she's notoriously vindictive, manipulative, and not a nice person according to everybody in town.

This woman, Stephanie Jones, was doing PR for Justin Baldoni. I'm probably my son, your wife, probably, but I'm fully not strong. Everyone's like, how do you know all this? I'm into it. Justin Biden, I know all the players. Justin Baldoni's like has a PR team including Stephanie Jones. Now Stephanie Jones and Jennifer Abel, they're not getting along. Jennifer Abel wants to leave.

She's pissed off. She wants their own firm. She doesn't like the way Stephanie's doing it. Word gets to Stephanie Jones. Stephanie Jones is livid. Stephanie Jones figures out a way to fire her to remove her with cause and then brings a lawyer in and takes her phone on the spot before she leaves. Give me your phone.

Confiscate. We think you're, you're stealing secrets or whatever it was. Jennifer's freaked out. and was like, oh, whatever, storms off, leaves her phone. They then unlock her phone, steal her phone. Fast forward. Stephanie Jones, realizing that she lost, you know, one of her big persons. She wants to burn her forever.

Allegedly, this is all in Justin's suit and what have you. She decides to team up with Blake, give all the stuff to Blake's team, all the texts and everything so they can go find all this PR stuff. We're going to destroy you as all taken out of context. They cherry pick a bunch of text messages. They remove emojis and sort of. sarcasm that's clearly in the text when you read them all because Justin later reveals that. But Blake doesn't pull Stephanie Jones as part of the people who are defaming her, which she was.

Stephanie Jones somehow gets a pass. And that's where we are. So she used this toxic publicist to call out the other toxic publicist, but was like, all right, we won't call you out. Even though you were part of it, you were bad-mouthing Blake, you were working for Justin. We're going to give you a pass because you gave us the phone. Is how it looks like it came. Now, was this legally actually allowed to give the phone? They were able to then pull all these text messages from the phone.

Blake lively puts them in her lawsuit, cherry picked, like I said, removing a lot of context. And then puts a gag order literally the day, same day that he can no long, Justin can't say anything about it. Which it's like, what do you do? Any lawyer you talk to is like, you don't need to put text messages in these complaints. Like that's totally, you know, superfluous. It's a PR play. It's not a lawsuit at that point. But that's what it is.

Yeah, and Blake lively set the tone. She put the text message. She cherry picked what she wanted. And now Justin wants to release all the text messages. He's like, I'm making a website. All the text messages, all the videos are going to come out because let's put it all out there if you're going to call me all the things you're labeling me. You started this. And now she's terrified.

She's now put three gag orders, a three rush to the judge. We're going to find out about a week whether the judge is going to deem this gag order where she, basically, Justin's team can no longer defend themselves in public, which is insane to me. But that's where we currently are. Just like, he's slowly started putting video clips. We have a video clip that goes against what she said in the lawsuit. There's some voice memos. Every little piece of content we get from Team Justin disputes everything Blake said. And it makes her look awful.

And then Blake doubles down and says, no, it's, you got to believe me, I'm the woman. It's turned into an absolute Amber Her type of situation. And I try to, and now, because I say that, I'm a misogynist, I'm a sexist. I'm okay with it. The whole trust, trust women. All of them? Really? Like, really, I love, what's the name, Burr?

Is it, I forget the, the comedian where it's like, really? You can't trust anybody. Not all men, not all women. You can't. No, no. There's too many examples. Too many bad apples out there. Right.

Especially, here's the whole thing. It's funny when someone comes out in public and says a bunch of defamatory things about you. And then you defend yourself and prove that they're not true. Suddenly they're like, you got to stop talking. No, you set the tone. So that's what this is. Now I'm fighting back. Then they go to, then they go to the courts and say, hey, let's shut this down.

No. That's not how this works. You don't get to say a bunch of stuff and then shut me up. But that's the beauty. Like Blake, it seems like Blake and Ryan thought they have separate rules. Right, right. And I think we're now in a world where it's like, no, no more. We don't want, with celebrities, we don't really care about your political opinions or all this nonsense.

And Blake and Ryan are starting to realize, oh, crap. we can't just get whatever we want I was watching a video I'm doing research for a book on a serial killer and I was watching a criminologist talk about psychopaths and one of the questions they asked was what is

what is one of the industries that has the most psychopaths and Hollywood Hollywood yeah it was it was it was Hollywood it was Hollywood it was doctors it was like a police officer like but the first one she was like yeah she said entertainment and i thought wow like i didn't see that but it makes sense uh but it only recently makes sense because 20 years ago i wouldn't have thought that at all but in the last 10 years or so you know i think just because of

youtube and there's so many influencers that are exposing their their true behavior but thinking back back in the 50s and 60s the studios one of these guys would get drunk and they there'd be a they They get into a DUI, and they had their own security with go out and fix everything and sign this and sign this and NDAs and I'll pay you this much. And then they grab the guy, scoop them up and take care of them. And so it's always been happening. It's just too much unchecked behavior, I think, is what is the thing. It's like there is a lot of it. When you get too big, especially these influencers, I mean, I've been guilty of it back in the day.

You get so big, you don't know any better. You don't know, oh, wait, I had to pay my taxes on this YouTube money. Oh, I can't do this. I can't do that. And so there are people. You surround yourself with, yes, man. That's the problem. Yeah, and people will surround themselves because you're famous or rich or have, you know, cloud online.

And that, that can, that can blur you too. So look, not to give an excuse to some of the bad behavior, but you got to, you know, yeah, it makes sense why some of these people fall in that trap. They need better support systems or friends or people to, like, remind them, don't be a dick. Yeah, yeah, I was going to say, you've got to surround yourself by people that will be like, yeah, listen, you'd be you're an asshole. Like, don't, like, I get what you're saying. But you know what? If you're wrong, you're wrong. That's just the way it is.

You're wrong. I don't know, but you, I've been an asshole, plenty of my career. Oh, my whole life. I'm just, you know, it's an balancing act at this point. It's a maturity. You sort of grow, and I don't know, as I've aged, I'm just like, I don't have time for being an asshole or dealing with assholes. Yeah, but you're being an asshole never lands you in prison.

Like, my being an asshole is landing me in prison a few times. Did that teach you? Yeah, yeah, the last sentence, the, that main sentence was like, yeah, you can't behave this way anymore. This is not working for you. But see, you know, people try to. So you were rehabilitated. That's good.

And people tried to tell me before that. But I was like, can't tell me. I know what I'm doing. But you would think the system did that time did ground. That was, is that what it was? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, that was it. Yeah, you go to prison.

I've said this a bunch of times. Like, I have a buddy Pete and he always says, and, you know, I was already in this mind frame when he said it. But I was like the way he said it, which was, he goes, you can't go to prison and continue to be. behave in the same manner that got you to prison and then leave prison and not expect to come back. Like, you have to mentally change. And that was, and that was it. I was like, yeah, I can't, I can't continue to be an asshole behave like a complete, you know, dirtbag and get out of prison. Like, it's your, and you go to prison long enough, you realize, like, you're better off sleeping in someone's spare room taking the bus than you are. The best day outside is better than the, or sorry, the worst day outside.

is better than the best day inside. So it doesn't matter how shitty it is outside. You just, and just, you know, I just started saying, you know, I'm just going to be a detrit. Not that I'm a great person, but I'm going to make an attempt to be a decent human being and see how that goes. And that's turned out pretty good, you know. It's the whole Jordan Peterson thing, you know, like make your bed and, you know, like, don't lie. Yes. It's, you know, for any reason, even if it's your own detriment, like, just don't lie to people and don't, and on, you know.

Yeah, but then you got to play the whole game of, can I get away with it? this lie. Am I lying? Didn't ask me. You know what it is? I just extremely honest. I'm like, look, I'm going to let you know up front. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Good. Yeah, that's the real key. And when you do that, it's funny because that actually builds, uh, builds trust where people like, wow, this guy's being so like, I'm like, I'm, you know, you say, listen, I'm telling you, you come on the program. We can do this. We can do this. I cannot promise you this. And I'm letting you know now, if you say something that's, you know, that, that you're not okay with. And we release the video and two weeks later you want to have it taken down that's not happening you

know like i'm very honest up front on how this is going to work you know uh you know oh you you want to come out great we don't pay for anything don't ask me for an uber like i'm very you know what's like you know damn like this guy is being extremely what's good because in my career when i had my downfall it luckily i didn't go to prison it felt like it for a period i lost everything uh i got canceled but it's like uh the the thing i realized at that point was like the the the life is so much better when you're not trying to follow all the lies. Yeah, yeah. When you don't have to chase away, what did I do?

And oh, is this going to come out? Are they going to find out about this? Like that is the worst life I've ever had to live or I just was constantly living in fear. When you finally can tell your partner and everything's out and you have that safe comfortability, it's like, oh, yeah, no, this is way better. It's a way better life. Because you still fuck up. We're all human, of course.

But when you have to be hiding shit, it's just it can eat at you in a way that you know, does make you an asshole. Yeah. And then it keeps you, I have to stay this asshole to do that. And so I've been there. And thankfully, now I'm at a place where I can just be a hermit with my family, not have to deal with these assholes. But as I'm sure you experienced in the YouTube world,

we still have to deal with some assholes. Oh, yeah. And haters and people that it's like. Yeah, you can't make it. You know, it's funny. You'll read the comments and there'll be like six people in a row saying, what a great video. Thank you for doing this.

This is amazing. And then some other guy would be like, total snooze, bro. And that's the one you focus on, right? Oh, of course. I'm like, what, I'm like, you know. You have 100 nice positive comments, man. And then it's that one shithead. They're like, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I'm like, go watch fucking Netflix, bro. There's plenty of good docs on documentaries on it. Like, you know, and then my wife sitting there. I'm typing away. She's like, don't send that. It's good to have someone who can be like, should I send this? Yeah. I think all social media is, are you sure button?

Are you sure you want to send that? Yeah, there really should be something for the, for the creators. A second button. says honestly, bro. Is this the best decision? Hopefully AI can help get to that point where they can prove free to go, are you sure about this one? Yeah. Okay.

So what, so what are some of the things that he's released that have contradicted what she's saying? Well, we have a video if you want to watch it. Yeah. If you want to do that or we can skip it. But she alleged in the lawsuit a lot of things. Blake lively said in her lawsuit that he, was doing a slow dancing scene with her, and he was speaking out of character in a scene that he didn't have to speak at all because there was no sound recorded, and that he was, you know,

basically smelling her. And at one point, you know, kissed her neck and said, you smell so good. And she felt incredibly uncomfortable because, again, he was out of character. He wasn't speaking in character. And it felt very odd. Why would he do this? And it was inappropriate. Right. And then she also said there was no audio. No audio, etc. So he released the video. You can watch the whole nine minute video. We can cut to a clip as he's just, they're dancing. And then there's a specific moment in the video where he is, you know, rubbing against her neck. And he says, did I get beard on you is what he says.

And she says, oh, I probably got spray tan on you. Right. And he says, oh, it smells good. And then she goes, well, that's actually my body makeup. And then they move on. That's the actual exchange that she removed all that context of it seemed like it was. said that there's no audio, which means that you can say anything. Well, thank that he recorded the audio.

Right. Like, there's no reason for you to, there's no reason for him to have said all those things. It wasn't like he was in character. Well, it's, poor, she's the one who's out of character. The whole scene she's talking about, we should be talking. She's trying to direct the scene. He's trying to get this moment where it's like they have the light behind them and they're doing the slow dance and the bar is going crazy.

Like, they scored. And they're lost in each other, like, dancing. And so that's the moment. You got to remember, he's acting and direct. And as someone who's done that in his life, I know how hard that is. And you know that feeling you're hosting, you're directing, you're producing.

You have a lot of, you know, we have a lot of things, maybe not. At least I do. Listen, I'm just a talent. He knows what I'm talking about. I'm just a talent. But as a talent,

I'm hitting the buttons and I'm thinking, what am I going to cut? Like, my head's always moving. I'm producing it as I'm hosting. So I can relate to him in a moment where he's acting with this woman. Like, did I get it?

Did that feel right? Oh, I wish the extras, while we're doing our kiss, I wish the extras had done this. I can imagine he's got a lot of things, you know, moving in his mind is what I'm trying to say. And so when I watch it, I see that. I see him trying to get into character, have a chemistry with this actress. Also, did we get the scene?

He's probably shooting more than he needs. Fine. I don't sense any uncomfortableness. I don't sense any meanness. And she's the one who constantly interrupts to say, we should be talking in the scene. Why don't we talking? It's so much more romantic if we talk in the scene. And he's like, well, we're filming in slow-mo.

Like, we won't see it. And like, and then I, as he explains that, And I'm like, he's right. Like, can you imagine the same? Yeah. It's like, talking in slow-mo would look awful in the movie. It doesn't look good. Looking and everything at people behind him in slow-mo,

that's what they're going for. But she keeps insisting on it. She keeps trying to direct it. We should do this. We should do that. And so she painted this picture that he was at a character being inappropriate, but it was the complete opposite. She's the one out-of-character trying to talk.

He's the one who's, like, clearly trying to bring it back to the table. and nothing seemingly inappropriate. They released that video and then her response is, that proves I was right. And like the whole internet goes, even people who are supporting her, they're like, Blake, I was following you,

but that clip did not prove what you said. It didn't at all. She may have been uncomfortable, I guess. It does seem uncomfortable, just as it would for any, watching two actors create a fake love scene, but nothing in it read like she did in her lawsuit. And I think it was incredibly damning for her

because that set the tone for, well, what else is real? Her credibility was shot. Yeah. If you line up 12 things that you're saying all of these things happen, and I prove that three of them absolutely did not happen, I now, now your credit believes don't. Like, I don't believe, I don't believe the other nine. Like you say, oh, yeah, but the other nine, fuck you.

You know, you lied about these three. You're just a fucking liar in general. You're done. It's funny. You would think that, oh, I get it. You're two high profile mega actors, right? You would think one of the two. of them would get to a point instead every time something comes out they double down what's funny

is being when you surround yourself by yes men you know you tend to keep doubling down because everybody's saying oh we can do this we can do this like hey hey but the truth is these people are you're paying all of them you can't really trust people that you're paying that are that are they're okay they don't really give a shit if you're if you're unless they're tied to your success right So you can't really trust those people. So I always think of J-Lo. That's what J-Lo does. No one around her isn't working for her.

Right. So it's like, how do you ever be grounded? How do you know what's ever true? So you would think that one of the two of these people would step back and say, listen, you're wrong. You know what I'm saying? Like you're wrong. Even if you don't think you're wrong. This has come out.

It looks bad. All of this looks bad. We need to settle immediately. and we need to come out with a formal apology or try and do something to say, hey, listen, things have been taken out of context. I may have done whatever. You know what I'm saying? I, you know, you don't have to address it directly, but just say, look, bad spot.

I was a bad time in my life. I fucked up. Whatever the case may be. Because if you apologize and you genuinely, and you're genuine in the apology, then most people are forgiving, but most people can't humble themselves to that. point. And that seems like what's... I mean, here's my, I can give you insight on what I think everybody's dealing with. Justin Baldoni, from what I've gathered, is like a hippie-dippy, religious guy. Like, he's just the type of guy who will just, thank you so much for having me in your space

in the show. It's such a lovely to be here. I'm like, to a point that I probably could get annoying for you. You're like, all right, dude, let's get to the meat of the conversation. So, like, that's the, that's the harshest criticism I've heard about Justin is that he's a little too lovey-dovey. he maybe not as harsh as needs to be in this lawsuit. That's the insight I get from Justin. He wants to be friendly with everybody. There's a new audio drop where he apologizes to Blake after being, you know, threatened by her and our friends to like, I'm so sorry you didn't get to write other scenes and movies.

How terrible of me that I didn't notice this. You can just tell he's trying his best to please her, right? So that's Justin's mindset, I think is more that. The problem is Blake also included other people, Wayfair, his company and his co-producer. it's funded by a really rich guy. This guy, Steve, he's a billionaire. He's funding this lawsuit, it turns out. And if they didn't have them, I don't know how they probably wouldn't have been able to go against Plake and Ryan. Wayfair is a studio trying to do a lot of like for good projects. This Steve guy wants to do good, he wants to give away a billion dollars before he dies. Like his whole intent is that he's seemingly tight with these guys and feels like they are good guys. So there's other people involved in this lawsuit that I think have the bite that maybe Justin didn't have that want to see it through. There's also the publicists who are, you're going against these alleged. publicists who are smearing you, they're not going to just go down lightly and not fight back. And they're allowed to fight back because they didn't sign any agreements. You know, like, they're allowed to do it.

So that's where I think it's coming from the justice side of what are the, what's happening behind the scenes, that there's a lot of pissed off people who are defending their character, the truth. And if he didn't have them, he'd have, he wouldn't be able to defend against it. Correct. And he'd be toast and probably never work against. Which is probably what they were hoping for. Correct.

I think 100%. Now you go to Blake's side. Like, Brian, there's a lot of theories that Ryan's jealous. like maybe he was having a, you know, Blake and Justin, were they having a thing? Did Ryan sort of step in? That theory's been going out there. I saw Candace Owens is putting that out there. She's getting a lot of traction on this story as just sort of any tip she's gotten.

She's trying to put out there as real, which is frustrating to me because we're trying to really look at all the facts. And I don't buy that one. Sure, there might have been a little jealousy and insecurity. There's a junket and some stuff that was released. Ryan, like, inserted himself in the junket, like the interview period, where they ignored Justin. interviewed the secondary male character and Justin Brunnan his mom, Justin Brunner, Hugh Jackman,

all to like talk about how great he was and did you want to hook up with my wife? It's a very weird clip, dude. It's a very weird clip. So it does bring up a lot of like, is Ryan John? I don't know. I also suspect what does Ryan really know? I think Ryan is, in my experience in working with him, he wants to support his wife. He's a nice Canadian guy. He clearly loves his wife. They have multiple kids. I think he's trying to be the better husband. He allegedly was upset when Justin was fat shaming her. So there's a part of me that I can't be mad at like... How was he fat shaming her?

That's a whole separate story. She's a hundred and fucking ten pounds. Well, he has to get, Justin had to lift her up in the air for a scene, allegedly. Right. And he has back problems. And so he asked his fitness guy, his trainer, do you know how much she weighs so I can know, like, what to do? That's what apparently happened.

That has that fat shaming. It's not. Justin didn't know, though, that the trainer is Ryan and Blake's like celebrity trainer who, like, is obsessed with them all over Instagram. and this guy went in immediate, it seems, went to Blake and was like, Justin's asking how much you weigh. Isn't that? Why is he asking me that?

Which then whispered down the lane made it seem a lot more aggressive. That's what triggered apparently Ryan, how dare you fat shame my wife? And that's how Ryan gets involved. There's a part of me that's not mad at Ryan because I'm like, okay, he's hearing a story that he's believing from his wife and maybe overreacting, but that's sometimes what you do when you support your partners. You want to be loyal and have their back.

So there's a part of me that wonders if that's what's going on with Ryan. you're shaking maybe there's an or maybe I want to be a reasonable person too yeah so there's that and then but then Blake I try to think well what does Blake think and I just look at Blake's history she's beautiful I can't deny that she's always been beautiful from gossip girl so

she's got the looks she comes from wealthy family like you add those to the silver spoon up her ass the good looks the wealth girls never had to work in her life and I mean that type of person if if not parented well and not you know and not not

not having her ego brought down could be a monster. Yeah. It's like, and it's an Amber Heard situation, and it's similarly to me, where it's like, I feel like she was just, you know,

the way she met Ryan Reynolds was because she was with Scarlet Johansson, and they cheated during Green Lantern as the alleged theory. And so she, you know, she does, and she, you know, connects herself to these powerful friends and husbands.

She gets what she wants. Exactly. She's investigating what she wants at any cost. So, again, going with that theory, got to know her. That's my speculation, right? Going with that theory, I think she just thought, I'm going to win this.

I'm right. Yeah, he was clearly looking at me. He wants to, he wants to fuck me. Oh, how dare he? Like, I think there's a lot of it that she probably believes it. She assumed she was going to win. She hired her fancy lawyers, get this through. I don't think her lawyers read all the texts.

I think her lawyers on all the information. They took the money. They know they're powerful. The agents, Ryan and Blake's agents, just fired Justin, which is crazy. There were a lot of other people who had accusations at WME that didn't get fired right away. they actually did investigations. In this situation, they disfired him

because they can't afford to lose Ryan and Blake. That's where this whole thing is. So it's wild because she's trying to paint Justin as her boss on the movie and that was a power dynamic and it's unfair that he made her uncomfortable.

But I would argue she was way more powerful than he was. He's a nobody who has the rights of the book. And if he didn't have the rights of the book, she would have steamrolled and taken over that whole damn movie. And so if there was a power imbalance, it was Justin having to deal with this

huge diva megastar who's then bringing in her billionaire musician friend, her billionaire husband. And now it's like, if there's a power imbalance, it was with Blake. Because Blake has had no problems in the clips we've seen speaking her mind, taking control. But when he touches her neck, she couldn't say, don't do that. I find that incredibly hard to believe. It's all very manipulative. And the more, like I said, like a true crime story, the more little pieces that get released,

the more we're like, oh, man, this woman is scary. What do you think happens? Do you think it actually goes to trial? You think there's some kind of a settlement or? There's a part of me that thinks they're so stuck in their way. Like, I don't think Justin's going to go anywhere. He can't. His career's kind of toast at this point.

He needs to keep proving it. Yeah. I think there's a point where he'll probably get a new base of people who are going to support him more fervently than ever before. So I think he'll still make out okay. But I think they're stuck in their way. And then it's Blake and Ryan. I don't see, I've never seen Blake apologize.

She did once. She apologized once when she called out Princess Catherine. for her Photoshop fail. I don't know if you saw that in the pop culture moment. There was a weird moment where Princess Catherine posted a photo

and everyone was like, where's Catherine? Where's Kate? There was all these theories that she was a clone that was going around and she posted this photo, this photo that was clearly photoshopped

and that made everyone go even crazy. Even mom like, did someone fake this photo? Is this AI? Like, what the hell? And Blake made a Photoshop joke when that all happened. And then a week later,

Catherine comes down and she's like, I have cancer. And then everyone's like, it's like oh damn so blake that was the one time i've seen her apologize because she got caught telling royalty that she was photoshopping when she had cancer it looked awful and there was no if-ins or butts around it and that's when she did do an apology i've never seen her doing it but again why did she do that one because it was someone even more famous than her i feel like she's like i can't offend royalty right i am royalty so i have to clear this air but i mean baldoni has is saying that

he's lost jobs and he's lost money. I believe it. Like, so he, he's got a great grounds for a loss. Like, to me, legally, no, sadly, from all the lawyers I spoke to not to cut you off, yet you'd think so. They don't, they don't think he, he's got a case where it's going to, it's not going to get thrown out. But the real issue is, was their retaliation. That's the biggest issue. There was a point during production where they did sign an agreement. They, they did it against duress, and they say they only did it to keep the movie going, and they didn't want to stop them. movie. But in that agreement, there was a no retaliation claim. And so what I've read, and as I've watched the lawyers, even if there wasn't sexual harassment, even if there wasn't harassment, that kind of doesn't matter. So like she smartly did it in a way where it's like

she may have been harassed, she may not have been harassed, but because she made the complaint the way she did to the California standards, if he, if he's caught doing anything retaliatory after that complaint, just the complaint alone, he's guilty. So that's, that's, that's, That's where this is all crazy and scary. So they enter into an agreement knowing we can now do whatever we want and he can't retaliate. Correct. See, that's fucked up, bro. Yeah, which is more the reason why I'm not team Blake because I'm like, you didn't do that.

You're a scumbag. You did it to train. And there's theories that there's a morality clause to the book so they can get the rights to the book because the author is now cozyed up to Blake where it's like the author was all about Justin. And like, Justin has always been about the message of the book. That's where I think also Blake didn't really factor in. This movie's about domestic violence and like relationships where it's like, it's complicated. And there are really fervent fans of that book. And Blake didn't give a shit about that topic.

Right. Justin has a whole organization, be bet, do good or something where, you know, that's what he's, he really wants, seemingly wants to like, whether it's a facade or not, I don't know. But he's still, he's putting in more work than a lot of people is what I'll give them credit for. And he was all about that. That was very clear for him of why he wanted this book to help people and, like, sort of paint relationships that are messier. Blake doesn't give a shit about that. So the reality, though, is because Blake never really gave a shit about that, it's coming to a light.

And I think that's what's making Justin look better. And all these people who've suffered abusive relationships are like, fuck you, Blake. Like, you just want to control this book. You wanted to make a commercial. You wanted to sell your hair care products and your alcohol. Like, fuck you. This movie's not about it.

And honestly, that's what sort of turned me because I'm like, imagine if this Justin Baldoni is this predator abuser who's harassing people on set and being inappropriate to women, why the fuck didn't you stop the movie and not get it made? You're Blake fucking lively. Like, you're letting this alleged abuser like reap the rewards of a domestic violence book if he's an abuser. I just find that incredibly hypocritical. And if there's anybody in Hollywood who could have stopped him, they stopped during the strikes. She didn't have to come back. She could be like, I wasn't comfortable.

He made me uncomfortable in the book. I don't want to associate with that. and she could have walked away and been a hero. And then maybe they could have exposed him and it would have been what it was. But she waited not only for it to get released in theaters and then digitally, she waited until it was on Netflix.

They made a Netflix deal. And then as soon as it was on Netflix, two days before Christmas, she drops her lawsuit. So she cashed in at like four points on that movie before she complained about the abuse. And I don't know. I just,

I don't know, doesn't that seem odd? If you really, Blake lively and you're defending for abusers and you want to expose one, you really are going to wait and cash in and all those points and let him cash in all those points

feels off to me. Yeah. She sounds like a scumb bag. When you talk about it all, I'm put it out there, and I'm not, I'm trying to look at it all objectively. I've read all the lawsuits.

It's like 300 pages of lawsuits I've had to read. I try to give her the benefit of the doubt. And yes, sadly, I agree. I think she has a lot of explaining to do. So you worked with honest trailers? Yes. Nice. You know what channel that is?

I don't know who's channeled that. I was thinking- videos all the time. Yeah. I mean, I can talk about that shit. That was a whole cancellation. Yeah, it was a crazy. Oh, really?

Honest trailers. Is this the same people that do cinemas in? What is that? Okay. Honest trailers. Honest trailers. Well, you explain it since you worked with it. Yeah.

No, I'd love to hear you explain it. So it's like honest trailers. It gives you, let's just say, um, the movie like, will be an honest movie trailer. Yeah, the Wolf Wall Street. Um, it's just like a satirical breakdown. It's like, the wolf of Wall Street. Like, uh, instead of. You don't know anything.

You've never watched it. I've watched it. Oh yeah. It's a great fucking movie. Yeah, but uh... Listen, this guy, every half, 90% of the stuff I talk about, if we ask Colby. Send me this pen. Have you ever seen this?

I mean, he's like, no. Yeah, those are, those are, those movies that came out, you know, 2005 and older. No, but it's, it's like a break. I haven't watched one in a while, but I used to. Good. They suck now. But it was like, it would just give you, like, an honest trailer about the, what the movie's really about.

We had the epic voice. Yeah. In a world where, yeah. In a world where Wall Street, you know, whatever. But it's funny. I don't know all the details, but I used, yeah, that's one of the channels. That and Cinemasons, I thought were very similar.

So there was a. I did a show called movie fights too. It was popular for a while. Okay. So there was a cancellation with that channel? No. So I was flirting with my fans back in 2017. And then my wife didn't know, hence why I was living,

a lie back in 2017. So literally the day after Ashley Judd got named or called out Weinstein and Me Too, the day after some fan came out with a false accusation that I raped her, which I didn't. Wow. Which I didn't. But then when that allegation came out, I was so serious and Me Too was literally just starting, which now it's, I have so many opinions in all of it now, but I got fucked. I just got fucked because no one wanted to go against it because it was like the wrecking ball was here to take down. anybody and every guy in town had fuck done something stupid.

So nobody wanted to be like, oh, now it's completely different. Everyone's sort of, thanks to people like me, I actually pushed through and it was like, this is bullshit. So anyway, I got fired, got divorced. Like I lost everything.

Move to Florida. That's why I'm here in Tampa. All that went down. And then I sued them. I won. Well, I won a settlement because the company went under because they were so shady.

That fired me wrongfully. I had, I thankfully saved the text messages through Google voice. I thought I deleted them all, but I thank God, I didn't. Google voice kept an archive of them. And with my text messages, I was able to prove that she was completely full shit. Come back for seconds and all this shit after she alleged I did all this shit. So I exposed her. And yeah, then I got to, then I relaunched. And a lot of people, mostly conservatives were like, holy fuck, dude, wow. I was able to prove myself, came back, rebuilt. And then the Johnny Depp trial,

that was part of the reason I was so popular with the Johnny Depp phase, because I'd been through a similar experience from like, this is bullshit. Like, this woman lied on me. And so that's, and I told the story, and I wore like a scarlet letter. Like, yeah, I was a cheater, but I, that was my sin, not being a rapist, which everyone called me for the longest time. And that sort of lifted up my coverage because people were like, oh, wow, you really do get what Johnny's going through.

But yeah, so I don't work for screen juggies because of that. They fired me. And then they sold it to a fandom, which is just ripped it in the ground. Yeah. Incredibly depressing. But I'm still proud of my era. of Honest Trillers. Yeah, well, that's probably,

there might have been the air that I watched. Like I said, it's been a long time, maybe back when I was back in college. So what do you cover mostly on your channel for people who haven't seen you that are watching this for the first time? Am I to you or to him? Talk to Matt.

Just so you could talk to the Matt, the microphone. Yeah, Popcorn Planet was born at a necessity at the time just because I got canceled. I needed a place to go. And I hadn't actually proven my innocence yet. I was still in a lawsuit trying to do that.

from Screen Junkies, which was a very popular channel. But everyone sort of thought I was bad. So Popcorn Planet became this sort of, I called it popcorn planet. Like I was, it was kind of like scorched Earth of Entertainment. It was what my original angle of the channel was going to be to sort of just cover entertainment stories and movies. That would have been a good one too, scorched Earth. Scorched Earth.

But I, that was my goal. And I went in and I came back and started making content and people were still calling me things I wasn't. And then sure enough, as I'm so glad I did that because it got me back into creating stuff because I took a break because I was pretty depressed during that period of my life. And I'd done a lot of wrong things, but I wasn't what everyone was labeling me, which was a rapist and stuff. So I slowly just went back out there. I kept going. I always advised everybody, like, don't sit in your house all depressed. Like, turn your fucking web camera and make a

fucking video. There's no excuses anymore in the world of content. So I just got back out there. The comments were mean, but I kept going. And then finally, I was able to prove my innocence. I settled my lawsuit. I can't really discuss that. But the company that fired me went under because they were so shady. And everyone was sort of like, whoa, I didn't know this was the real story. And I used that as sort of the opportunity to launch my comeback. It didn't do as big as I'd hoped, but it did big enough that I was able to bring popcorn planted in.

And then it really was the Johnny Depp trial. And then obviously my experience of what happened to me really connected with people. And they could see that why I was connected to the Johnny Depp trial so much of sort of a man being wrongfully accused. And I didn't shy away from bringing that up from time of time. And that just catapulted our coverage during that phase in popcorn planet. I'd say that was the point where we really sort of, it tripled our numbers and stuff. And yeah, since then we've really focused on, you know, more entertainment justice,

pop culture justice, as we call it. So we've been doing the Diddy trial. We, you know, covered JZ stuff. We've covered the Will Smith slap and Free Britney was a big, movement we were on top of. And so, you know, when sort of true crime hits Hollywood, that's what we try to connect into. And then what you, but it's also, because I read the, on the thing, I read your description

of what the channel is, you also talk about the true crime. We started with Gabby Betio. Like, Gabby Patio is the one true crime story I really did cover in depth, the Brian Laundry stuff, which there's a documentary now coming on Netflix, the family did. That story, because I was local to Florida, and I was just, at that point, we're still trying to find what the channel was. So there was a phase we did true crime. I should probably update it.

I stopped covering true crime as much as because I got too depressed. It was too many missing children. I don't know how you and so many women just at night fall asleep to murder stories. I can't do it. It sticks with me too long. It's like 70. So it's, you know, that true crime is consumed about 60, 65% by women. But violent true crime is what they focus on.

So it's like 70, 80% of violent true crime. And they'll watch it right before bed. Oh, yeah. If you remove the violent, if you remove the serious. serial killers and all that stuff from it, then it drops dramatically. Like, they're not interested in scams and bank fraud and stuff like that. They're interested in the, in the serial killer, the murders. Yeah, no, they would send me the links as I was covering your grimy.

Like, have you followed this murder of the guy who cut his person in the refrigerator? I'm like, ugh. It just wasn't fulfilling to me at that point. I know offense to the people who watch that, of course. But I found my lane. I'm like, I'd rather talk pop culture. So I try to find those juicy pop culture stories just because it helps me sleep better at Because I can't, the missing kids was particular.

Every week I'd have someone, can you help us find this kid? And I'm like, I felt so helpless. Yeah, yeah. What do I do? Yeah, that's not my area of expertise. So I do, I have a allegation story. You want to hear this? Oh, I'm so excited.

On me, the Blake lively thing, where remember how you were saying some people compare the Blake lively thing. And they're saying like maybe Baldoni and maybe there was a thing there. And then Ryan Reynolds, maybe he found out. out and it, so it turned into something, you know, suddenly it was like, oh, no, that's not what he's been, he's harassing me or whatever, right? So maybe it, there's a theory that that's how it developed me. Yeah. Okay. So when I had, when I heard that, I thought, oh, that seems reasonable. The reason I say that seems reasonable is that I had, so I was married, but separated from my wife. This is

20-something years ago, right? This is when I own a mortgage company. I started, I was decided I was going to go ahead and become a, I'll get my real estate license. Well, one of my brokers, and his name was John, John's wife was Deanna, she wanted to get her real estate license. And he told me, hey, she's going to go, wants to get her real estate license. And you said, you want to go, do you guys want to sign up together so you can drive her there because he only had one car. And I was like, yeah, sure.

So we sign up together. And after work, we would go do our class at night and then you come back. this happened after a week it's like a six or eight week class right we're doing it like four days a week or something at night so what ends up happening is after a week or two we start sleeping together well he knows something's up and eventually what happens is the class ends and I tell her yeah we're done because now I'm at work and she's calling me and I've got a secretary who phone calls go through So your husband is in the bullpen. You know, he's working in the office and you're calling me.

Shit where you eat, my friends. All right. We already discussed the asshole part of it. So, so, you know, asshole. Sorry, no judgment. Continue. Asshole move. I get it.

But the point is that she's now calling. And I'm like, listen, this is done. First of all, it was never going anywhere. That's dangerous. Yeah, it was never going anywhere. Did she know that? Yeah, she always knew that. And she's the one who said, look, I don't want to get divorced.

Like this is like, hey, we've got a few weeks together. That's a frustrating thing. where they know what's going on, but then once they can't have it, they lose their minds. Right. So, and I'm getting a divorce already. So she's thinking he's available. And I can, maybe she's thinking to step up or something as far as, you know, monetarily or something. I don't know.

Husband was a good looking guy. But they've been married for a while. Maybe that was over anyway. And they did get divorced. Right. Shortly after this. So what the point is is that at some point he realizes something's going on. And I've stopped talking to her.

I've been like, don't put her phone fucking her. Don't put her calls through. I'm never here. That's it. She got to a point where she had her best friend calling me asking me to, will you just talk to her? She's going nuts. You know, she's unstable. Like I'm now, all these things are coming out.

She's unstable. Like I'm like, oh, no shit. I started to notice that when she wouldn't take the hand. Even though we had the conversation, this is only while we're doing this. So what happens is because I'm like, I don't need any drama. I got enough problems. I got an FBI investigate. Like, I don't know kinds of stuff.

I'm committing massive fraud. So you're like, I don't need this right now. Anyway, what ends up happening is... And you added more drama to the mix. Of course I did. So what ends up happening is one day I get a phone call from one of the mortgage, no, it wasn't a phone call. One of my mortgage brokers, her name was Susan Barka.

Susan Barker comes in my office. She said, listen, John's coming in. He said he doesn't want to... He basically said, you need to leave, not be here. When he comes in, he's cleaning out his desk. And I went, why? What's going on? And he put a device from radio.

This is how old this is from Radio Shack. I don't even think there. Are there still Radio Shacks? Are there? Yeah, I think there's one. I looked it up. It's more digital now. Oh, okay.

Like you can order the parts. So, but it was a, went to a Radio Shack where you, you plug this device into the plug. This is back when you had landlines into the- I missed Radio Shack. It was a cool era by your RCA cords. So you plug it into the phone.

And then you put your plug in. And every time someone picks up the phone, it records. And he had recorded. a bunch of Deanna's Deanna? Anyway, Deanna's Beep. Oh, no, it's fun.

Oh, I'm using real names. It's true. They're all, this is 20-something years ago. She's a psycho. So, anyway, and this is why I'm saying this. She's nuts anyway, but on top of that, listen to what happened.

So he records these phone calls between her and her best friend. And so he listens to him. He takes the record, the thing, and he goes, and I found out, you know, this is stuff that I found out. Susan's explaining to me.

and basically said that he, after he listened to the whole thing, she comes home and he says, look, I know what's going on, blah, blah, blah. She denies it, denies it, denies it. And then he says, I know what's going on. I know. So finally she says, okay, but you don't understand. He essayed me. And he's like, really?

And she's like, yes. And then I didn't want, you know, I was scared. I didn't want you to lose your job. I didn't know. So, and he's like, yeah, but. you can, I know you continued to see him. And, and, and she said, yeah, but you don't understand. She's like, I was scared.

I was afraid. You know, first it was like, I was afraid he's going to kill you. I was going to afraid this. I was, oh, no, kill her. I was like, this. I was scared. And so I continued. And then I ended it as soon as it was, oh, as soon, you know, obviously it stopped

happening. I was so glad when I was done and we got our license and the whole thing. Okay, fine. So he goes, and she says, you don't understand. He, you know, he, he, he forced me. And, and she goes, I'll, I'm telling you right now. She goes, I'll go to the police right now. He essayed me.

I will go right now. We will go file a police report. I will file it. We'll have him arrested. And keep mind. I'm sitting there. The broker's telling me this. And I'm thinking, like, I never thought it would go.

Like, this show, I knew she was a little nuts, but she's now ready to file false accusations. And so what happened, of course, is that he's got the recording. So then he starts playing the recording. And one of the recordings is what? between her and her best friend and her best friend. And I'm sitting there telling Susan, by the way, like, none of that's true. That's not true. She had a whole thing where I slid my, all the stuff off my desk and threw her on the desk and the whole thing.

And Susan's like, well, I mean, I know that's not true. She's like, you're not that passionate. And he played a, so he ended up playing one of the voicemail or the, the, the recordings for his wife. And he told Susan. And it was, she was, her friend was saying, look, you have to stop. The guy's not interested. It's over. Find someone else to focus on.

And she said, you don't understand. After having sex with him, I can never have sex with anybody else. This is the only reason he wanted to tell the story. Exactly. And I told Susan, I said that part's true. I'm all about productivity, feeling energized and staying strong, no matter how old I get. But let's face it, aging can slow you down. That's why I started taking.

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luckily, John said, luckily he was reasonable. He was like, you're not calling the police. You're not doing that. And we're done. Find someplace else to live. And they actually got a divorce. But so it's like. And you were the best you ever had.

Did that make you feel a little bit better? only part of her story that was true. So, but... The TikTok will end at that punchline. It'll build up to that point and then that'll end. And listen, and the comments will go nuts and it will get four million views. And I just... If Colby is willing to sacrifice, like, my pride for views, he will make me look horrible.

Anyway, so what I'm saying is, is that, like, I could see, like, some... You know, how, you know, like, hey, I found out this. I found out. Luckily, he had these tapes and he knew none of that was true. I totally relate to that, yeah. What if, you get the guys who were like, yeah, you know, if he was a spiteful person, which he wasn't, thank God, other than he was saying he was going to kill me if he saw me, which is funny because a month or two later, we both went to a birthday party dinner and we were there and we talked and we shook hands.

We were like, hey, and he's like, yeah, she was crazy, bro. You know, the whole thing. Yeah, it's, the evidence is key. If you don't have their seats, I was the same way. like she's this accuser back and when I worked at screen doggies she came and we we had an affair that's what it was yeah yeah it was a clear affair if she was a fan that's the other thing i i just hooking up with fans is so dangerous so dangerous because most of them if they want to be with someone famous youtubey whatever they are a little unhinged yeah and they'll they'll go they'll get

obsessed or not understand what it is and it's like they can't just be mature adults like look i'm not here to judge. A lot of people are unfaithful. I'm not saying it's right. You shouldn't do it. But, you know, people do it. But I'm mature adults, whatever people, grown adults want to do in their private life, none of my fucking business, right? But that's the problem is like sometimes you get swooped into one of those relationships where you think, oh, cool, we're adults. We know what we're doing. And then you find out, oh, no, they're not, they're not adults. They're crazy, you know, immature, insecure, crazy people. So, yeah, anybody YouTubers watching, don't. hook up with your fans. It is a recipe for disaster.

You can imagine what my plight. I mean, look at me. I have fans. Look at me. If you look like me, my God, it would be twice as bad. Luckily, you've got this. I've got some fans. You have this going on. Shaming me. Brings you on the show.

Just tell you how big as dick is. Good times, good time. But anyway, back to you. people are delusional. Back to the point. Back to the point of, yeah, you get those receipts. And if you are having an affair with somebody, save your fucking receipts. Like, keep the evidence because they can turn on a dime.

Like, I keep all my receipts with any, like a lot of, not that I'm doing that now, I'm just saying, you got to keep that shit. If you ever suspect, oh, this is weird, there was a point where I was hiding my affair and I deleted some things. Bad news. Because, again, she's like, he's not gone. He showed up to a party on it, my hotel room unannounced and tried to me.

Meanwhile, the text. or me, sorry, for YouTube standards. Meanwhile, the texts are like, oh, my God, please come back for round two. When are you going to come back? That was so good. Blah, blah, blah. Like, hello, that's not what you said. And then it's like a text showing me, here's my room number.

Come on by. You said I showed up unannounced. Like, everything she said was discredited in the text messages. What's funny is like, so that, like, how is that not a charge? Do you say how is that not? A thousand percent. We're now in a world, we're like, and I see it happen with the ditty case, to be fair. There was a lot of people jumped in the ditty case.

Nice segue, by the way. I like that. I'm good. I'm good at this. I got a big dick, and I can segue real good, too. I just don't call it out like you. 17-year-old Rihanna. And then you learn about Alia,

and you learn about how young Beyonce was. And then you look at his alleged son. Jay-Z's got a history with these girls. Do you believe Jay-Z is really this nefarious, did he like player? I, um, oh, I probably shouldn't say this. Actually, that's too much for one video, right, Matt?

And I'm supposed to say what? Tomorrow, stay tuned, and we're going to be releasing the Jay-Z video. Subscribe. Okay, that's fine. See ya.