Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - The TRUTH about the Vince McMahon & Brock Lesnar LAWSUIT

Episode Date: March 30, 2024

The TRUTH about the Vince McMahon & Brock Lesnar LAWSUIT

I don't classify this is sex trafficking. This is a business deal. She demands a three million dollar pay a day. This person also is not named in the indictment, but it's got to be Brock Leslie. It's one of these things that where we have to be careful about leaving something automatically, you know, when it comes out. There's always two sides of every story. Well, we're going to talk about a guy today that it doesn't get a lot of sleep either. Even in his late 80s, that man's still got a drive, if you will. we're going to be talking about Vincent Kennedy McMahon former I guess you would say

owner is still a billionaire I guess of the WWE WWF I guess first off before we dive into this Matt were you a wrestling fan no not at all no I mean you know I knew who Hulk Hogan was and I knew who some of the guys so when I was in college I worked very briefly over the, during the summer, I worked at a Gold's Gym. And Hulk Hogan was good friends with the owner of the gym. And he was, he was one of the killer bees. Brian Blair, be Brian Blair. Yeah.

Yeah. So Brian Blair was one of the killer bees. And I worked for him during the summer. Real nice guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He used to go.

It's funny too, we would have Japanese turrets. come in and want to know if he was there. And we'd be like, yeah, well, you go get him and he get, they take pictures with them and they, you know, because, you know, he, he, they're huge. Yeah. In Japan. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, they love them in Japan.

So. I think, yeah, but Ryan wore a mask in his tag team for a period of time anyway. No, I don't know. You know, he was like a key, he ended up being like a, a county commissioner or something. Yeah. Some of them go on to have career in politics and also. of other things um the killer bees was uh they were a tag team they were around mid 80s uh which was kind of like the heyday when vince got Hulk uh i'll just kind of give a little precursor

for people that maybe don't know too much about wrestling Vince bought the territory from his dad he basically bought all the little individual territories around it like you know mid south this that word that you used to have the von erics and the the the free birds everybody rustled in territories you would tour territories um so you could basically do the same show you had the von erics and the freebirds they would do a territory for a few weeks and they would go to the next one and they do the same show over again this was obviously before it was syndicated so you got a lot of mileage out of that um once television became involved you can only do the same story so many times before it gets kind of boring um he basically kind of moot groomed hulk i don't want to say groomed

that'll get into what we're talking about later uh he up create hook of mania which took wrestling by storm pretty much uh was laid to ground work from making vince a billionaire obviously and probably the late 90s and 2000s ted turner opened up a rival wrestling company wcd um stole some of vence's talent events had to go from the more cartoony eat your vitamins say your prayers type guys to then you got into the stone cold de eggs the rock trash talking girls lifting up their shirts type stuff real edgy um and that's how he beat him and he eventually bought wcd interesting fact he bought wcw for less money than apparently he paid this woman to do favors with that's that's quite a fact um that's a little background of who vince is he was the owner

he largely did stay as just an announcer but then he started getting a more mainstream role once uh stone cold got involved they had like a huge feud and he just relished that role of being that heel boss now what we're going to talk to about today is some recent allegations that come out was a lady named janelle grant who was a former employee and this is like what really just sets this thing off for me is how they met and under the circumstances so janelle lived in a penhouse in Stanford, Connecticut, um, she was giving her parents round the clock medical care. Uh, I'm not sure what the illness was. That's nice. That's admirable. Commendable or maddenable. Um, so right there, if I'm thinking, if you're giving them around

the clock medical care and you're not working, then you've probably got a little money in the back. Or they do or they do. Yeah, or they do. Um, so they do pass away. She's now looking for employment and the owner of this building knows Vince McMahon because at this point, I believe him and his wife had split up. Uh, he was staying in a condo in this building. Vince was. So this is a nice building. Oh yeah, yeah. Vince is staying there. I can imagine it's, uh, it's not a two star dive here. We're talking about it. It's, it's up there. And she makes the introduction. or the building owner or manager or whatever makes the introduction to Vince

and Vince sets up a meeting with her now this is not a meeting in an office it's a meeting in his condo since they're in the same building allegedly on the very first meeting there is a little leg touching knee touching how are you tell me about your background type thing you know just trying to feel out the situation if you will uh when they close closed this first meeting. He allegedly sniffs her hair as she's leaving and goes nice. And he's got this very, very distinct growling type voice. So hearing these things is very funny. Just to imagine him saying it. So this is the very first meeting. So I want to dive into this

just a little bit. This is not a young lady that has been with the WWE or any company for that matter that's been with them for a long period of time that she gets approached by a boss to do something in this manner so you have to balance what will this do to my career what will happen will it cause a disconnect will people believe him will people believe me like you don't really have to balance a whole lot because she's not even a member of this organization an employee so if this happens on the very first time you meet this man you can't possibly in good sense thinks it's going to get any better so right off the bat if you come back for a second meeting i really got a question where your heads at yeah it's it's odd right yeah like you you think

yeah this is a little weird yeah i'm not this guy's a little off really if you watch any of the any him on any of these shows you know or what do you what do you call them what are they are the wrestling shows or wrestling shows tournament entertainment entertainment right so if you watch any of those you're going to know he's a character like he's you know but then if he's acting weird in person you might be like yeah you know i don't think i want to pursue this this is a little odd yeah but maybe she needed the money maybe she was like hey i need a job okay so that that is a that is a point so i don't know what the the income is for that area allegedly they meet again again in his condo this time the man is in his underwear so yeah that's not

normal i'm a little concerned i've i've had a number of interviews in my day nobody has ever greeted me in their underwear some of them thank christ they didn't wouldn't have been a pleasant sight so this is this is number two here he's already touched your leg smelled your hair nice you showed up his underwear and he asked for a kiss before you leave I can't. And these were like, you know, two hour meetings here. So she still agrees to become an entry level employee. She's going to be making about 75 grand a year. I don't know if the entry level or employee. That is an entry level employee in WW. W.W.E. Excuse me. Entry level. Um, and like I said, that first meeting turned into a two hour meeting. So that's a long time.

And I'm not sure the date of when the first meet was and when she first got the job, but there was a few meetings in there. There's a whole indictment. I'm not going to read every page of that indictment. There's like a 67 page indictment. It kind of breaks us down. Um, once she's there, I think it's two months, uh, end of the fact. That's when he really starts pressing for sexual favors for this job.

uh this i think may of 2019 she visited this is after she accepted the job she visited events and she he forced her to pleasure him while he just laid back on the bed and she felt she had to do that to be able to leave i don't even know what to say i usually have a smart ask comment and with the hand the hand not even the you know the hand he she oh okay yeah handy handy we would call it um strange request but i can hear him set god damn it do it i i i he's an odd guy he is i can see him really wanting this awesome so a lot of this makes sense i'm not i don't when we do this i want to be clear i don't necessarily think she's lying about the stuff that she did I do I ever question her being made to do this against her will.

Yeah, I'm, I'm afraid I will never get out of here. Like he's, what's he going to do? I mean, he is a big, let's say he's a, he's a big guy. Yeah, but at this time he is in his late 70s. Yeah. Um, he is a big guy. You're right about that is a jack guy. Um, but again, like I said, it's not like she's got to look at God.

I've been with this company 10 years. What am I going to do? where am I going to go she's not even you know really been an employee that long yeah she's waiting on her fourth paycheck at this yeah i don't even know for two weeks is kicked this she ain't got benefits i mean nothing nothing's going on so after that it it progressed that she was routinely assured or that uh photographs he wanted photographs over like news that they would never go anywhere it was going to be between him and and that's it he just wanted to enjoy them Uh, then it started to be checks messages exchanged of situations that he wanted to see her in.

Is she still a 75,000 entry the entry level? Yeah. Yeah. This is all in the door. Hey, this is outside of, of, of my job description, you know, I'm going to need a little bit more. Yeah. She's not not saying this. Um, they kind of do like a little role playing thing via text message, Vince, and some of the text messages are out. I definitely can't read those verbatim or otherwise this video is monetarily a waste of time. But, and that's another thing that's odd. I don't know if you've seen those. If you look at these text messages, Vince, like we said is a billionaire. He carries himself a certain way. I can imagine him in a business meeting or anything, even in a personal setting carrying himself a certain way. He's Vince McMahon. These text

messages read like a teenager just learning how to cuss right they're like your is a capital you and r your is y r i mean it's it's very abbreviate it's not how you would expect a billionaire to talk in his late 70s at that it's it's very odd and he's giving out these things about he he is in control of who she does business with you're going to put it like that i'm trying to keep this as PG as possible. Um, he, he's basically her or her owner. Uh, now they haven't actually got to got down to business between the two of them yet. This is all exchanged through text message, but it's not going to get any better. I can promise you that. Um, she is the funny one. He introduces her to sex toys that he has that he has. How old is this chick? She's, I haven't

really got a clear number on her age but she can't be old she's got to be anywhere from mid 20s to early 30 she's got to be in there she can't be any older and i hope she's not any younger he's got these sex toys and he separated them by race and he's named them as you should w yeah i mean that's it wouldn't pc you got to be pc and he's named them after the talent so one of them very well could be named the holkster uh if one of them is not named the big show i'm going to be very upset at his creativity in this you know this business venture that he's got going sexual chocolate i'm assuming's got to be one of mark henry he was a he was a big guy i'm really i really hope the names of these toys come out like that that will just be the

icing on the cake and apparently in some instances she is forced to let him use these implements to the point to where some of them get stuck this doesn't seem good at all well it doesn't seem pleasurable at least not for her no um that's where i can kind of like even if you are cool with it maybe that was maybe a tad bit over the line he apparently apologized for for this action saying that sometimes he gets carried away uh which which I can see. I can see Vince getting a little out of hand. Damn it,

take this thing. You can get it all. Oh, I'd be a little too far. I need a pair of pliers. Get her. Get in here. Get this out.

Get it out. Damn it. She then is introduced, and this person is not named in the indictment, Vince's physical trainer, whom is going to share. I think by this time they are having full-blown, uh,

intercourse yes the the trainer is now introduced now would say a three-way partnership here if you will the trainer for whatever reason like I said is not named in this indictment I'm not really sure why there's an instance where and this is the the building this really kind of making headway is they're together I don't know if this is invents this apartment or where it is but they're all three together they're doing the deed and it's some point somehow i'm not exactly sure the position and don't really know if i want to know how they were positioned but vents defecates on this young lady it doesn't specify if it was an accident

the man is close to 80 maybe it happens maybe maybe it's a shart i think is the uh the word for the terminology is the trainer is his personal trainer a male yes it is a male that that we do know it is a male okay um vince however demands the the show goes on and they and they finished now he actually went and showered up come back uh and this this young lady is still there with vince's i guess accident uh there and everybody finished everybody done that done their thing so it doesn't say that like i said that if he wanted to do that if that was a fetish or if it was just a full blown accident if it was an accident i don't know why you wouldn't let the lady you know hop in the shower uh let's pick this up later when when everybody

gets clean i'm not sure what is matt cox's number to to get number two on what is that number it's a big number it's a big number but i mean she's what for what she's looking for what a couple to three million what she was now she is now back then she wasn't this was early on i would say within the first year but she's doing this for 75 grand and she's having to go to work at least some days my number is more than 75 grand if you're going to go number two on me yeah yeah it's it's up there and it's probably going to double if it becomes public because if there's enough zeros then it's private we might can work something out but if it's public now that you did that shit and that's you know the smell might go away but the stain won't if you get what i'm saying

that's going to be hanging around so it's it's definitely going to double if it's if it's public knowledge and that's the thing is this chick had to detail all this right you know any dude that is ever like you've got to have all this in the back of your mind if you ever want to talk you know you're on that first day you're eating some nice italian food you get that roll of spaghetti and you look across the table and you're like, Vince on you on this woman's head. Like I don't, you know what? Check. I'm out of here. So. And it gets more ridiculous. Apparently, and this person also is not named in the indictment, but it's quite obvious as to who. Vince shares some of her text messages with a former

wrestler that is now with the UFC do we know you know who this is it's got to be brock lesnar there's nobody else that fits this bill other than brock the only guy that really left at that point in time that they would have been really wooing to come back with something of this magnitude would have to be brock CM punk left it was on bad terms um i don't think they they just recently got him back

and this was you know that was seven eight years ago they were actively pursuing to get Brock back the only person that makes sense for it to be is Brock Lesnar apparently he wanted a video of this of the I don't know what is with the the defecations and the feces here he wanted a video of her peeing sent to him and apparently that was a something that was arranged apparently they were supposed to hook up at a pay-per-view event Brock Lesner allegedly and I'm saying Brock that's the only person it could be if he's watching this please don't kill me um apparently they were supposed to hook up after a pay-per-view allegedly he got too drunk to do it and it never happened there is an exchange

um that's leaked between brock and this person where it says veney if i got in there and done the damage to that hole you would never be able to fill it again so apparently mr uh mr brock's quite proud of them so proud of them so i was going to say wow do you do you know who brock lezner is no you don't know no i don't know well he's he was in the ufc brock is like a fucking animal like he's google him google him i am what's his last name lesner l-es n-r n-r n-r I mean, he's just like a massive dude. Yeah, he's a big guy.

He's, he's a tough customer. Um, uh, yeah, there's, uh, the truth about Vince McMahon and Brock Lesnar. Yeah, there's, there's already a video about it. Yeah, it's, it's him. And the, the sticky thing about that is Brock is married to a lady that used to be in the wrestling business named Sable, um, she was formerly Rina Morrow. she she day and it's funny i'll tell this real quick story for the wrestling fans

don't understand it uh mark merrow which is brock's now wife's former husband before her brock got together he was a wrestler he cut a deal with vizman man to come to his w and let his wife rena merrow who took on the name sable for the company basically be like his valet that would accompany him to the ring um she she wound up gaining popularity really kind of put was the main star of w w e when they were really going that edgy stuff with the sexuality she would have bra and panties matches she would come out with just hand prints over her boobs and nothing else i mean it was really edgy at the time i of course joined it as an adolescent so um but there was an issue where she filed suit against vince

i don't know exactly what it was and mark said they were just hated in the company that didn't friends so they left after about a year being out of the business sable decided she wanted to go back and he was like well i'm not going back i'll stay with the kids if you want to go back do a few dates make some money i understand as time went on calls home became less and less frequent he started to suspect she was seeing someone and so he said i call her one day and i just had it and i'm you know letting her have it on the voicemail you i can't believe you did this i'm sitting home with our kids you're doing god knows what but god knows who then he said i hang up the phone and i'm like i probably shouldn't have done that man let me let me call

and delete this before she hears it he knows her voicemail pascoe so as he calls and he logs in it says you have two messages the first one isn't his he's got to listen to that to get to his he hears this guy talking about meeting up with her he doesn't know who it is and he's like man when i find this guy i'm going to beat him to death i'm going to just tear this guy apart he finds out that somebody is brock lesson and he said brother if you know forgiveness becomes so easy when you find out that's the guy that's tearing down your old lady while you're on the road um yeah and then they got a divorce and to this day at least right now brock and stable are together i got to think that this may be causing a little rift at home uh but allegedly they did not ever get together but

you got to think if this happened supposed to happen one time probably something else here there down the line hadn't come out yet that's the tie in with brock lesner there's another individual named john laronitis now john larynitis was a guy that was kind of i want to say his official role was like VP he was like number two he resigned about a year and a half ago after um all these allegations first come out not these specifically but allegations that Vince McMahon had paid hush money three or four times in the last few years. That's when he stepped down, John Laronitis resigned right after that. I think he had a feeling some of those stuff might start, you know, coming to light.

This was set up now and here's where the sex trafficking comes in at. And that's what I think Brett mentioned on your show when you facilitate someone to have sex with someone else against their will. then that becomes sex trafficking right that is apparently what she was doing now or what vince was doing i do want to say that in this time from them to getting together to the physical trainer to the wrestling dildo toys to now with john laronitis she is now making 200 grand a year as she should by the way well she's earning it by god and it's plain to see if you're a wrestling fan why creative was suffering if you've got some of the top guys in the business got this going on all these shenanigans it's no wonder the product wasn't as good but yeah she's she's up from 75

she's got a hundred twenty five thousand dollar raising less than a year and a half she's got a position with the company i've got it in my notes here i'm trying to find she absolutely knows nothing about it there's no there's no way this young lady knows anything about this position she's there because this is her job this is what she's doing she's meeting larynitis in the mornings before he goes to work which you know if that's agreeable upon the two that's fine but the problem of that is john lyrnitis is actually married to a lady that is the bella twins which is a female tag team i think john seen at least at one time was dating one of them daniel brian was dating the other one but the the big reason here is their mom is currently

got cancer oh she knows the bell is yeah Yeah, the fellow twins are pretty popular. Yeah. Yeah, she just grew up on on a, I need to have her on here. Where she I know. Yeah, she, she knows all that, you know, which she, by the way, thought was ridiculous. But her brothers and mom and they all watched, you know, I, I grew up on it. I mean, I'm not too much in it anymore, but I remember the guys from my day.

Um, so she's got John Lernitus. him in the mornings to have these rendezvous. John's doing this while his wife's currently battling cancer, which is not a great look. And then apparently there's a in WWE headquarters, they meet in John Laronitis's office. And they have a three way business deal, if you will to where Vince quotes, uh, says no means yes and take it, bitch. Like he's yelling this. out loud. I'm not sure if everybody in this office just has earbuds on. How do you not hear how do you not hear Vince McMahon having sex? If you ever heard that guy talk on a microphone, I don't know how he would be quiet enough in the middle of all this to where people in

the office wouldn't hear. Right. It just these things don't I'm thinking it's not your normal work environment in general. I think if it's headquarters it is because that's all like the business people, the pencil pusher. that's not really what I would say I don't think the wrestlers are coming in there the brains behind the outfit that's not a locker room or nothing this is just like the the business people of it the money people you know okay coordinating truck stuff like that that's my guess anyway either way I don't know how this is not heard right there's no way this is not her and people also now you've got to be suspecting it something is up with this young lady who's

come in seemingly out of nowhere, no connection to the wrestling business, nothing to do with anybody there, not kin to anyone. And within two years, she's making 200 grand a year with a high ranking position that people probably been for years haven't even got is it's not adding up. Miss Grant, apparently in some of these meetings pled and vague for them not to do it, but then decided it was best to do it and just get it over with. So that's, that's her, that's her, really her, uh, mantra here for all this is to get just get it over with um he would john laronitis throughout the work environment after she

moved in here would frequently him her up in different rooms force her to kiss her grow per and this is all around the 2021 uh time frame here so eventually she does uh put a stop to it or you know say that they need to not do this anymore one of the main reasons is larynitis's phone I think got lost and a lot of the pictures were in his phone of her and so that's really the only thing that you get in the form of regret in these text messages that are showing up is she's like I never should have sent him those pictures right not I never should have went and banged him every morning while his wife was dying of cancer not you know that that you know three-way business call really hurt when when you said that he lost his phone I

thought you fit like i mean you know it didn't say where it could be it what my god where is that phone i hear it ring wasn't a pro max i hope i hope i'm not sitting on that where is it i mean when everything else going on up in there it's quite possible apparently there was a text um where she asked if they could postpone the threesome for that week because she felt it would get her head out of the game and she really wanted to focus on work not hey this is wrong it's a bad idea my head's not going to be in the game

I need to be focused was the reason we're going to go a little bit deeper here I feel like you I feel like you're not I feel like you don't necessarily believe this woman no no i don't uh well i take that back i don't think the woman is lying about everything that happened i do think she's lying about it being done to her against her will uh why wade why do you say that well i'm glad you asked we're gonna get into it right now because she drove 45 minutes to come into work every day we're gonna we're gonna get in here day yeah

never late um laranitis was always in a good move coming to work being late every day um she received at one point in time here a fifteen thousand dollar gift cards to blooming dales uh that was purchased at man's direction and delivered by mcman's personal assistant to miss grant in her office 15 grand that's that's not it we're not done we got a little to talk about we discussed the 75 to $200,000 raise alternative clinic medical care and medical cosmetic services and products um basically he paid for her to get a lot of plastic surgery done uh free of charge it was paid directly to the doctor she had clubhouse access tickets to the belmont stakes which that's the horse racing right i think i'm not yeah yes definitely um i think i think i think

minus horses um russomania private full day transportation and premium tickets russomania is the w w e version of the super bowl that's their biggest pay-per-view of the year i think it's in march or april so coming up here in a few months um it is their biggest paper view of the year they've now extended it to two days back in the day it was usually the match that the whole year had been built up to so you got to see that whole build up through every pay-per-view of all the run-ins and disqualifications you finally got to see it at russlemania that was what it was the biggest but tickets are like crazy for this thing she gets that two thousand dollar nordstrom gift cards i've never been a nordstrom shopper but i believe you

could probably find something in there uh with a two thousand dollar gift card massive but yes that's the bell the twins is that is about the twins okay so and a massive box of godiva chocolates uh 20,000 in plastic surgery we covered that one pearl diamond necklace from a pearl diamond necklace let me clear you sure a real pearl diamond I know another pearl necklace you can give as I feel like he or she probably had several yes uh that that was also not to get off topic of the gifts because we got a lot more that was also one of the text messages that vince wanted her to be showered i guess we'll word this is best possible he wanted her to have many different pearl necklaces to really get into the the tasting of these pearl necklaces

and give which one she thought was the best this guy has issues yeah um so the real pearl necklace from somewhere in Greenwich, Connecticut, Better Ridge in Greenwich, Connecticut. Blue cashmere knee-length cardigan from Nordstroms. Burberry cashmere scarf. Blue cashmere scarf, great cashmere scarf. Obviously, this broad lights cashmere. Selene sunglasses.

Never heard of that, but I probably can't afford it. Cable knit throw blanket. I'm sure. Large bouquet of flowers delivered approximately every other week. Uh, some of all the larger items of 2,022 BMW 430 XI just given to this young lady for all of her troubles. $5,000 gift certificate at the land fire spa, two private shade catered chef dinners at

my man's condo, of course, got to come over there to get the dinner. Golden diamond paperclip necklace from Better Ridge and Greenwich, Connecticut. not really sure why that would be something that somebody would want but i guess that's their choice another uh 10 000 dollar bloomingdale gift card assortment of food that uh food assortment and display of an antique tea ceremony set from saudi arabia um this is just you know a handful of stuff this broad is not walking away empty hand is she's getting compensated for this i don't classify this is is sex trafficking this is a business deal in my mind that's what this is she's getting paid all of this apparently when

all of this comes out she demands a three million dollar pay a day Vince makes apparently a one million dollar lump sum payment and this is another thing that doesn't make any sense he stops paying and doesn't pay her the other two million now I know other two million to me that's a lot of money most people that's a lot of money to Vince McMahon that's not a lot of money right and she is she does sign a NDA which now she's obviously talking about it so I'm assuming because he didn't make the payment or the arrangement of the NDA that's how she can talk about it. I mean she can talk about no matter what he she's just now she's opened herself up to a lawsuit but of course you know he also didn't pay you know the entire um amount of money

so you know it's kind of like you're saying okay well it's like signing a house to it's like signing let's say you go to a closing and you sign the HUD and you sign the deed and you sign everything and then they never pay you never get the money like you didn't sell your house like it's it's contingent on on both parties performing so you don't have to worry like oh my god I just sold my house and they never gave me the money that's not what just happened right something like some cases like I remember a guy that got hurt in the company I worked with they offered him a settlement but with that sediment he had to sign a non-d-d-a or NDA um right he couldn't talk to anybody about it so i'm assuming that's what this was he wanted to keep

this stuff quiet i guess because he broke it she can she can then talk about it but you know it's just really odd that all this went on through all this time and now it's coming out now it's hitting the airways everybody is of course painting vintz this monster is bad guy but these text messages weren't even supposed to see the lot of day they were private i don't think my text message log is quite as graphic as that. But I mean, if you think anybody in the world, if you're just seen their private text messages between someone that they were having an affair with, it's not like these two were married. That's going to be a worst conversation. If you're just dating and seeing each other, that's when it's really x-rated.

They're supposed to be public. I'm not going to vilify events for having a very weird sex life. I'm not going to be involved in it either, especially with him going number two. But I can't vilify the man for having an interesting sense. life. I can't even blame her for going along with it and getting paid for it. What I do blame her for is coming out and trying to say to man with sex trafficking, which I think is total BS. What do you think? Back. Well, I mean, were there any, look, since he's not afraid to express himself in a text message, did he ever threaten her in the text messages?

If so, those were not released. Pretty much every text that was released was something along the lines of them engaging in some sort of fantasy. activity or planning something to do with her and another individual, which seemingly she was okay with. One of the text messages was, have you talked with John or have you scheduled with John? Apparently, I guess it done something for Vince. He got some sort of satisfaction that even if he wasn't involved to know that John handled business, John larinitis i'm talking about right to know that john handled business that done something for him so he wanted to make sure that that got handled that was some sort of gratification for him i don't

okay i don't get it but okay and look i mean you see you hear about it a lot these people in these high power positions that are so used to asserting authority on people and and people are intimidated by vince i think if i was a wrestler i'd damn sure be intimidated by vince Um, he's just that demeanor, the way he talks and I just, I don't know, it just really kind of the whole story doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. Typically those guys like to be the one to have that done to those are the guys that like to be submissive and like to have, you know, be beat on and shit because they do the opposite to everyone else, not necessarily like that, but I'm saying they're the they're the strong boss.

They have to uphold this. So in their private life, they like to be. victimized to kind of right things out yeah um i can see him doing it either way i can still see him doing all this is definitely sounds like vince um but i just don't see the sex trafficking thing really and that's no i don't see it i don't see it as being sex trafficking definitely not and with these text messages you don't do her any help with this these text messages that are leaked which i'm assuming come from her phone they don't show her as someone that's not willing in this like at no point in time is she saying hey i want to stop this you know you guys are doing this i feel

this way the only really negative thing against it was hey this is this is going to throw me out of my game for work this week right and it's just that's these territories now that when you get into where when the with the me too and i do believe that listen Harvey Weinstein piece of shit i think he done everything that they accused him of he used his power in hollywood to make sure these women never worked again. And I'm not saying that what he did is okay by any means when I make the statement. I don't want people to think that. But I understand why an actress would submit to that because he did have the power to

possibly never get them casted in a movie. So if you're an actress, you all, I'm not going to say you have to, but if this guy, you know, puts the word out that you're blackballed, you could possibly never want to. Or he also could give you the fast track. Yes, exactly. that's allegedly what happened right um but with vance like what are you going to do blackball me from another wrestling organization at least at the time i don't even think a e w was out there it's the only other show in town um well this was late too this is this is recent this is only a few years ago

yeah so there's only one other wrestling organization out there other than the w is aew um which is all elite wrestling owned by the cons who own the jaguars down there in florida where you're at no Tony con you ever heard of the I've heard the name so he owns the jaguars um I think shad con is the father he owns a he's got he's got a really distinctive looking mustache his son is the one that's behind a w I think I think I have that right um but I mean it's like what are you gonna do if you if you pissments off to the point we just leave he said I've had it I'm not coming back what's he going to do black ball you from one other wrestling organization

Well, I mean, she honestly, she's the job. I mean, obviously she wasn't qualified for the $75,000 a year job. Well, it depends on the entry level. I mean, look, you're not hiring secretaries at $75,000. I mean, I don't know what she and she hadn't worked in years. She's taken care of her parents. But let's assume she was. That's a hell of a jump. I mean, was she just that amazing of an individual that she like what what's what's her pedigree? You know, does she have a business degree? Does she? Have a high school diploma. Does she, you know, allegedly, Vince, uh, had a soft spot for the story and wanted to help rescue her, uh, so to speak. Wow. I mean, that's, but yeah, you're right. I mean, $75,000 basically with no previous experience in and around in and around the wrestling business. You're looking more than envelopes in office, even if you're in a secretarial spot. Yeah. Um, and, and I think this was known. this had to be known by the people in the business or her moving up to that title that she had was i think was like vice president or of operations i mean she was high appropriate yeah oh yeah yeah operates that's she was operating all right um and i don't know it's it's one of these things that where we have to be careful about believing something automatically you know when it comes out there's always two sides every story god knows with my

passed in my situation i preach that you know you can't always believe what's printed and what's out there and that's the weird thing to me is i encourage you to maybe check out these text messages they're out there i think i have them i can send them to you they don't do this woman any favors of saying that she was against this and that's my whole stamp is how you're going to claim that you were done all this against you will yet no text messages say that unless they're holding different conversations per court and they just put out these really bad ones to paint vents in a bad light sounds like i mean obviously she's just trying to embarrass him and hoping to you know get a payday but she's embarrassing herself too at the same time yeah but i mean like you could say a lot for something for a few if she

thinks hey i could get five million out of this i mean up getting five million out of this you can be embarrassed that's my thing is i if i'm if i got vince mcman over a barrel even three million is low for that i mean that's like something you'd probably also knows what's written in those text messages yeah yeah that she was not she was clearly a willing participant hey okay i'll meet you there it's like okay well you live in a you know you you live like or does she still live in the same condo building i don't know but i don't know about now but i mean that's my thing if she still lived there i mean and i don't know any of this to be fact i don't want anybody to to bash me in the comments lord knows you got some some creepers in your

comments by god yeah um you know i don't know if she was left this house Um, if she was, I would assume that maybe it was paid off if both of her parents died. I don't know the circumstances if they died together or within a few months apart. I'm not sure of all that, but I'm assuming this broad is not on the street with a cup. You know what I'm saying? She's got something put back somewhere. And you know, to me, I think this whole thing is a, a very twisted sexual fantasy. That is nothing more than a business transaction. I don't see sex trafficking here by any means at all that's that's not what I see um and

basically events was only thing you really say he did wrong was adultery but I think him and Linda have an understanding it's it's reported he's always had affairs when he interviewed with Playboy he detailed affairs that he had had on Linda um you know that was that's public knowledge and I think you could probably tell at some point in time this happened in the past I don't necessarily know with talent though I think when you start messing with the talent that would be really easy for something to leak out and you could really cause a problem I think Vince is smart enough to know I guess that's old phrase of you don't shit where you eat right but as far as

someone in the secretary office now that's another story that's you know I don't know what are you landing on all this what do you think I mean I think she saw an opportunity to get some money she thought she was going to get three or four million and he stopped the payments and she got upset about it. Somebody in the comment section, the last video said that he stopped the payments because he heard that she was going to go public. Now, I don't know if that's true or not, you know, but for whatever reason he stopped paying and she thought, hey, I got a void contract here.

I got a void agreement. I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to, I'm going to, you know, embarrass this guy and maybe he'll follow through or maybe he'll offer me even more money. Maybe she went to an attorney and the attorney who said, listen. this will be great he's already started paying he's essentially he's already kind of admitted guilt you know um we can make him look make it look as bad as possible and maybe we'll get twice as much so i would i would hope to be there asking for more because i'll be honest with you i don't know if two million is worth the world knowing that i did all these things that Vince

McMahon in his late 70s did all these to me i did it with his personal trainer is his number two is VP of the company and any shit on my head that's a lot for too bad I mean that don't get me wrong I got to crunch the numbers but two million for the entire world to know that all that happened that's uh maybe she'll end up getting four or five or six or listen I mean six million dollars all right so is that the number is that you mean six million six million I could pay off my rest of institution six million and everybody knows i'll tell you right now the government would let would let Vince McMahon shit on me for six millions so they can get their money we'll tie cock down

mr. McMahon that's mr. McMahon as they call him um and that's as that's everybody knowing six million is your number I didn't say that I'm I'm asking. I'm asking. I don't know. What's your number? Public or non-public? Two million non-public, which I guess that kind of defeats the purpose of talking about it. But two million and nobody knows. I might have to request I lay on my back. That way nothing goes in the mouth. Oh, all right. What about what about public? Everybody knows. oh boy i'm never going to work again well that too um you're going to have to come like i'm going to

need 25 and a half do you know what people are going to be saying in the comments section i'm there are people in the comment section saying man 50 grand you can shit on me oh i'm sure you're talking about what is Vince McBan and he's 80 and you got to picture everything else that's going to be around look like now what does Vincent McMahon look like at 80 now ever since he left and then came back because see when all this stuff started when all these allegations of hush money started he resigned from the company um actually his daughter resigned first Stephanie McMahon she was up there high in ranking with her husband uh triple h when all the allegations started she resigned Vince then resigns when he realizes is starting to get some

some eyeballs on this situation Vince resigns Stephanie comes back Vince then agrees to sell WWE to endeavor who is the same people that own UFC I think their brand now is called TKO or something like that. That's their stock is TKO. But what Vince did here, and this is really brilliant, he still owned the majority share of WWE, even though he didn't have that title. So when this deal come through for it to go to Fox,

Vince wasn't going to sign unless after the sale of the WWE went through, which I'm not sure of the number on that sale, but it was sold to WWE. He was still the majority shareholder. he was not going to sign that unless they let him come back onto the board and hold a position under the TKO brand so he essentially held it hostage even though he sold it uh which was brilliant something by the way what um no i hear you um I'm looking for a recent picture of Vince McMahon whichever one's recent he's going to have a very thin mustache is he okay yeah like

pencil thin and he never had a mustache in his years are creepy mustaches are creepy no offense yours looks good for a limited time at mcdonald's enjoy the tasty breakfast trio your choice of chicken or sausage macmuffin or mcgrittles with a hash brown and a small iced coffee for five bucks plus tax available until 11 a.m. at participating mcdonald restaurants price excludes flavored iced coffee and delivery well mustache maybe i got the whole beer you get the whole thing yeah here he is okay hmm think yeah we don't know we are we is that it that's it 70-something years old like the caption up there should be I just shit my pants stop cheese oh excuse me I'm sorry oh yeah yeah yeah he did it on a secretary I apologize there he is yeah yeah yeah

that's and one of the the funny thing is like after all this happened you've seen a picture of a walking with a cane why is it that would all these guys get these allegations against them suddenly you can't walk or they're blind yeah suddenly they become feeble and sick and barely like oh I'm just an old man Bill Cosby couldn't see a damn thing he went blind after his allegations come out Harvey Weinstein was literally getting in everything he could in New York then all of a sudden he's got to have a cane in the wheelchair and everything else to get him to the courtroom and Vince was even had a cane walking there was a picture of him with the undertaker

walking it's like that's their I guess a scapego to plead to the judge I guess that you want to hear something funny sure my my my wife just came over and put this down and gave me a bottle of water and we're sitting here with their hands on our hips I mean what does that mean

what does that mean I'm prepared you get it means you're going to have a busy couple of days I know which one that one is pal that's going to I mean

hell what's today Wednesday yeah you're going to be I don't need to call you until Saturday you're going to be have a busy a couple days is that the daily dose back that's what we're down to is that the daily dose i'm on my way home take a pill yeah i listen i feel i and there's no i promise you there's no two million dollars in my future now there's

no i don't get to sue i just have to i just have to i just do my duty do those give you a headache on day two i it's what no it's it's not bad it's it's Alice. Yeah, I know. See, Alice. That's a three day one. I know that feel pal. I know it very well. Um, no, I don't get a headache. They give me an extremely bad headache on day number two. Really? Yes. Yeah, what milligram? Uh, that I don't know. Yeah, things like five or 10 or something like that. I don't know. There's even some things that people take now. And I don't know, Vince has got be on something to be able to put you there's 70 something years old of course yeah he's got to be taking the see alice daily or whatever this should be doubling up you should be getting them as a sponsor right now with that little bit you just did too by the way that's something you can look into you ever heard of that it's called honey for what choice do i have she's 18 years younger than me yeah you got a that's a tall task you got you know but honey have i heard of something called

honey it's it's literally a pack of honey that looks like your average pack of ketchup or condiment pack from the grocery store but it's got honey in it and it's all the ingredients that's in cealis it's like the i don't know those medical words but like tadalafil or whatever it's whatever does the the magic add down right it's in the honey so essentially it's a way to get the same thing without having to get a uh prescription for see okay kind of like uh you do blue chew you ever heard of blue chew No, and there's something called, isn't there hymns or something like that? Or hymns.

It's kind of the same thing. Is the honey for scripture? Mm-mm. Oh, you can buy that anywhere. Really? I bought a box of it like a couple years ago. To get a decent price, you needed to buy a lot. So I bought like five boxes.

There's 25 to a box. And once I started telling people about what they did, I was selling for like $5 a pack. And I sold like $2 a pack. and a half boxes that I kept the other ones. Uh, but it does the same thing as as Seattle. It's just without the prescription. That's what the four hymns is. That's what the blue chew is. It's the same thing. Just you're not getting it prescribed by a doctor. It does the same thing. It lasts for about three days. Um, you know, you don't need a lot of help like that. It's not going to be all the time every

day, 360, you know, 24 seven, but you know, the wind blows right. You're good to go. You're ready rock and roll are you here the peanut gallery um all the he's having this she's having more of a conversation with you than than i am what did she said she's all cut she's like right oh really oh huh you got a box of honey on your table store VIP golden honey google it google it be a VIP golden honey i wonder if it's legal to sell i could get it and sell it and sell it on the show listen i knew a guy that was selling um like not here's the thing he he put it he basically marketed it as a natural alternative to Viagra right but it was Viagra like he was ordering the he he had herbs and all some kind of the stuff in a pill it looked like a big

herb pill or something but it was actually Viagra and he just ordered all the stuff from from uh china and mixed it all up in the pill i was like what are you doing that's kind of what this is this is i know but i was like you can't do that and he was like yeah i know and obviously i know that that's why we're talking in prison what of the box i had a guy that owned a convenience store in a in a small town i'm not going to say his name i gave it to him i'm like here i won't this much for the box you could probably sell it for this you make a few bucks i make a few bucks granted i don't i didn't need a hundred packets at his show i bought five boxes or 25 packs of box so i had to sell some he apparently tried one and liked it and he

was like oh yeah these are so great man and you know a couple months go by and i never heard from him and i said it was like hey did you ever sell all that stuff oh yeah yeah and i knew his wife and everything else and one day i was over i'm like did you ever sell this shit or not she even knew that i had given it to him and he was like he finally had told her he's like yeah um He told me to tell you that, you know, they didn't work. I'm like, what do you mean they didn't work? He's like, he said that they didn't work. I'm like, well, where are they at?

I don't know they worked for me. You know, he told me they work great. He's like, I don't know where they're at, but he said he ate them all. None of them worked. I'm like, ate them all. And then that started like a whole big argument with them too. But I'm like, yeah, if one didn't work, why are you going to eat the other 20? Right.

Come on now, pal. You know, you just buy a pack of honey. And I still wanted my money for them. And I'm like, you can buy honey a whole lot cheaper at the grocery store. you're getting something off of this but I don't know I don't know this is this is this is a good Viagra or Cialis episode to sponsor because you know Vince and and all those guys John Laronius was old like he had to have something that you know to keep him up right sure unless they just got a hell of bad stamp I don't I don't know I don't

I don't think anybody after a certain age has the wherewithal to always be ready to go Yeah. And events is that guy. I mean, like his, his training regimen is he trains at like, you know, three and four in the morning and, and all of the like he's a very dead. I mean, even now, like he's probably cut up more than, you know, your average guy that's in decent shape, which I think a lot of that is steroids. Um, you know, he was on trial for steroids back in the, the late 2000s. He almost went to jail. Like he took the government to trial and, and beat it. But he had made plans that it had he went to jail. like how his wife was going to continue to run the company and everything else i mean vince is uh

he's an interesting cat and allegedly netflix was doing like a full blown documentary on him and like the way he basically took over wrestling bought out his competition and everything i don't know what that does now with this oh i'm sure they'll come out i'll bet you they walk away from it you think or maybe they maybe they maybe they it depends on how far they were into it they might complete it and then just kind of put at the end kind of like a make a note that hey by the way it towards the end of his career you know he it ended in disgrace or you know throw a little blip up there did you see how they ended um grazal de blanco no i've not started watching that yet yeah they ended it weekly you know it was weak it was a week

ending isn't um bagarro getting a lot of pushback for that role who are's who've done it right oh i thought she did great yeah i'm not sure i haven't i didn't want to get any spoilers so i haven't read the whole thing but i guess apparently she got some flack from some fans for something it could have been just the fact that she did that role i didn't read into it but uh well i i i think you know they obviously they're going to exaggerate some stuff but they there's whole sections that they just completely missed like you know like they they really you know they removed certain parts first all they made her seem you know very almost tony montana like well i mean i've heard it she was a you know she was a tough problem she would give out orders

for murders and and everything else i don't know if you've seen the the first cocaine cowboys yeah yeah but uh that guy that was her basically her her her trigger man i mean And he would tell the, you know, the orders that she'd give, they were pretty ruthless. Yeah. I mean, he, he talks about, like, some of the stuff that happens, he talks about in cocaine and cowboys, you know, they show a lot of that. Yeah. Like, you know, you know, if you've seen cocaine cowboys, as things are happening, you're like,

oh, wow, this is when, you know, this is when so-and-so, this little kid, you know, that gets killed or, hey, this is when, oh, man, this is messed up or there's lots of little thing but it feels out of out of sequence and and then when they end it you know that like she fell in love with some guy who was in prison is that true is that in the series no it's not in the series that's what i'm saying like they removed this whole section i don't know if that's true man like i'm a big cocaine cowboys fan that whole season or not season two but episode two or whatever you want to call it the part two that whole thing look fabricated it looked like those pictures were like super imposed why would she want a guy in prison i don't know but i mean there's

tons of photos it's it's it's i don't i don't think anybody's disputing it but you um but it's it's completely not there it's not in the it's not in the um they don't talk about it at all huh be a reason for that i mean maybe but yeah they don't talk there's little things it's it's but you know it's super and then they don't show her her final kind of demise they never even show it they they fade out where she's on a beach and it's like what like didn't she know she got shot right oh in the end yeah yeah yeah in real life yeah yeah yeah she gets yeah they never showed that she's like on a beach kind of like you know it's very odd it's a very odd ending it's you know I don't know if it's supposed to be poignant or something but I say maybe they're planning

come back or finish off or something no no because they say they throw up on in the script they I mean, they show up in narration where they talk about her getting gunned down. Was Pablo in it at all? No. I don't think so. I don't think we ever see Pablo Escobar. I could be wrong. I mean, I could be wrong because I watched it.

I watched probably 40 or 50 percent. Plus, keep in mind, it's all. Well, 85% of it is in, is, is not dubbed. What do you call it where they put up the subtitles? Subtitles. thank you it's all it's subtitled like i'm like what happened what i'm asking i don't i didn't see that plus we usually do it we usually watch it when we were laying in bed so you know 20 minutes in i'm like i don't know what happened away i can't reach you kill it yeah i mean i got 20-something years

welding bow for the most part i'm i'm pretty close to being legally blind i can't see that's my excuse to buy huge ass televisions and it's true um just so i can actually see i couldn't read subtitles i don't know if i can get through it but you know but i would think something like like if i'm doing if i'm netflix and i'm doing that this controversy would almost make people want to watch this document with vents i'm talking about like to see yeah i'm talking about the one with vents would make people want to watch it because i want to again i want to stress these are all alleged charges he hasn't been found guilty or nothing that's not to say he won't be Right. You also have to think, how do they pitch this?

Like when they pitched it to Netflix, the production company, and they said, look, we've got like Vince McMahon, he's going to be involved in the whole thing. He's going to, he's going to be interviewed. We've already talked to him. This person's being interviewed. And then let's say they're halfway done. And suddenly he's like, I'm not going to be interviewed anymore. I've got this whole crisis thing going on. No, forget this.

So you don't know what's happened where do they have to go back to Netflix? and say, look, this is what's going on. So we can finish it, but we obviously aren't going to be able to move forward in the same direction. We're going to have to pivot. And maybe Netflix says, well, you're, you're only halfway done. We've, you've still got money left, right? Give us some money back. Let's just cut our losses.

Or maybe they said, you know what, run with it, you know, do it, look into this other stuff. Get the people that are involved with the other stuff, like interview them. Like, this is a great segue into this new thing where you were halfway done, you know, And they don't always necessarily shoot in order. So you don't know what they had shot and what they didn't. Like it could be it could be like, hey, this is a complete mess. There's nothing we can do with this.

Do you prefer things like that when it jumps from like one period of time to current and you have to bounce back and forth? Um, I mean, if it's done well, I don't, I don't mind. Yeah, sometimes that aggravates me a little bit. If it's got to be done very well for me to, yeah, yeah, I get lost about where I'm at and what time period it's in. because it's hard for me to keep track right what what have you ever been approached for anybody from netflix for your story um i've been so the way it works is like netflix never approaches you the netflix doesn't have a production company so their smaller production companies approach you and they'll say hey are you interested in doing one you go say yes then they make a sizzle reel

then they go to netflix and say hey we've got this guy it's an amazing story they pitch it they show the sizzle reel and if Netflix goes wow this is amazing how much do you want then they say hey we want two million dollars or we need three million and this and this and they negotiate i've had that happen you know um it's just never gone anywhere i've never gotten to the part where we actually go get to netflix right um what i've gotten to is the closest i ever was was Netflix UK was pitched a documentary on me you know and they didn't pick it up yeah like I don't know you know what you know if everybody who watches my stuff is always like just like you're you've got to be kidding me

that's not possible yeah it is possible like they didn't pick it up and and maybe you know and the problem is that the market's so fickle there are sometimes when they're like hey we want us we we only want standalone documentaries like it's got to be two hour documentary that's it. And then other times somebody will go and they'll say, Hey, we've got a standalone documentary. It's going to be two hours. And they go, we're only buying multi-part documentaries now. Yeah. What? Okay, well, this guy doesn't have a six-hour documentary in him. It could at most be two one hours, maybe two one and a half hours. They're like, no, we're not interested. Like, it's so, or they say, oh, no, no, we're only doing them when they have reenactments or we only do them or, you know, it's like, what? Like, it's so fucked up. I think you could cover. any of that though you have a six-hour series in you pal i listen i i feel you i feel you it's just the right company is not like i i just got connected with a guy um like a manager that's now going to start pitching my but you know and he wants to pitch it as a series to someone like netflix i forget who you know he's got like he's tied in with four or five of them and he wants so he's like look

like i wouldn't even be involved like it'd be somebody would play me and it would be a multi-part series, maybe a, maybe a six, maybe kind of like a Grosal de Blanco. Maybe it's just an ongoing series like, um, Orange is the New Black where you, after the second season, like it's over. Like the, my, like my stories run out. And then they just, but they built these characters. And then they say, okay, now let's just run with it. Yeah. I don't know. So you got your career doing fraud, then you have prison. Then you, I mean, you know, you've got a lot of story there to break down if they want to. Who plays Matt Cox? Oh, it could be, I mean, I feel like it could be hold multiple seasons.

But I don't know, you know, there's not a lot of short actors. We need somebody like he can't be tall than five foot six, five seven. Now I'm just joking. Look, did you see like they had a Leonardo DiCaprio play fucking Jordan Belford? Obviously, you can do anything. They'll have some guy play me who's six foot tall. Yeah. It's very disappointing, but I'd be disappointed.

I don't why have you ever acted um no I think you would just I you're one of those guys I was a young man when this happened I've had people say you should play yourself bro I was young I was 30 fucking or my early late 20s early 30s I'm an old man you don't look old I'm an old man well I mean you just pop to see Alice so yeah you're up there but you're not you don't you don't I'm just saying you don't appear like you're going to sit out and say, let me tell you what I did 40 years ago, pal, 35. I remember the first time I brought a file into my manager's office and she pulled out the white out and she, she shook it like I tell that, you know, it's true, but I mean, I do feel like an old man when I tell it now because it's like I've told it so many times. I feel like my dad used to talk about how my mom's father would tell the same stories over and everybody would leave the whole family would stand up and leave and he's like I mean I'd

heard the story twice they'd heard it a hundred times so I'd have to sit there and be like okay right that's how I feel like when I'm being interviewed and I start to tell the story I'm thinking you I know you've seen one of these videos you've heard this at least three times but you're going to sit there and it's polite it's nice but I do feel like the old man that I don't know, I think I think you still get discovered by new people. I tell other than the one guy at work that I know knows who you are and he got a kick out of that picture of your your recent thumbnail by the way I walked in there and showed it to him he just he got a kick out of that but I tell people all the time that it never

are your story and they've never heard of you. I'll share the TikToks. I think you have put out that you done with Lex and they go, oh wow, that dude doesn't this and that another. I'm like, yeah, you talk to him. And I'm like, yeah, I know, it's like, once he like. And I'm like, well, he keeps asking for my credit card number. I don't know why I haven't given it to him.

I already have your credit card. Um, uh, yeah, good times, good times. So what do you, what do you think? We'll wrap this up because by my calculations, that pill should be kicking in and the, the microphone is going to just start coming up like this. Um, what do you think? You weren't there something funny? one time we were um we were visiting uh one of uh we were visiting someone a family member of jess's

and so we're in the hotel right we go but we go out you know she spends the day with them and then we go out that night and we go eat like whatever sushi whatever so we eat uh we did a restaurant and then we come back and i remember i i walk i was like god i am so full i am so full and i lay down on the bed and um and jess goes like god i'm i'm so full and she says yeah well you better get over that you got about five minutes and then i went i go what the hell and she goes yeah i'm just let you know she said she said you better do whatever you got to do she said because i'm going to be back here she's i'm going to take a shower i'm back here in about five or ten minutes and then she walks out like at the shower turns on some kind of

country music on a radio throws it on the bed and she says, you feeling better? Oh, my God. What the hell? Pushy. Oh, I mean, you got to respect that. It's not this man, pushy, but I mean, you know, that's going to be a thing. Hey, hey, you're getting Vince McMahon pushy.

Yeah, you're getting a little McMahon on me. You're getting Vincey on you, Vincey. That's it. That's it. That's we're going to, we got to. And she didn't pull anything out of this. suitcase like oh my god that's deep chocolate or let me introduce shit of the hoax in all seriousness before we get out of here what do you think happens i know there's a lot

more to be said and found with the case but as of right now i think this thing gets settled out of court i don't think it ever gets a resolution you don't want to go through that and what she she's going to take very little i mean not very little i mean so it's a ton of money but let's face it she's you know the problem with going to court is it could go either way Yeah, you know, like they're going to act like, oh, we've got a case and we then there's everything hasn't come out and you don't know what else I've got. And they're going to say all that. But during discovery or before discovery or whatever that process is, you know, at some point, they're going to say, look, let's get together and talk. I don't want to be embarrassed. I don't want you to drag my wife through the mud and all these people and think about it. We'll put everybody on the stand. We'll drag all kinds of it. Like people are going to be pushing him to like just give this chick five or six million. Just get rid of her. you know and and his lawyer i'm not sure if you ever heard of his guy by the name of jerry mcdivitt he is a very very good lawyer he brought Vince through the steroid trial many many many different allegations through a lot of different things one of the guys that you actually

went on his show uh lee cole remember lee cole yeah so his brother years ago was in what was called the ring boy scandal which was pat pat I want to say it was Terry Garvin. If I'm not mistaken, don't kill me in the comments. It was one of the garvins. They would, when they were going to the territories that I was talking about, they would have kids in certain territories that would put up the ring and then go back to their houses for other activities. And allegedly, um, you know, his brother, uh, this happened to his brother. He was, it was brought up on the Phil Donahue show, Phil Donny you've done a full blown episode about it um they even accused lee of trying to get some money

from the w w it ultimately led to his brother um taking his his own life but so it's this is this whole situation with scandals and allegations of that it's nothing new um it's very yeah it's dark dark industry yeah very i mean you look at all the wrestlers that that go way way way too early and then things that they do chris benoit um you know it's it's crazy that these guys now that i watched growing up look like larger than life characters and most of them can't even walk now if they're still alive like Hulk is like one of the only ones are still kicking right yeah well and look at him he's been through scandal and that thing with baba what's like you know it's the way these guys minds work are just it's like they're all devians you know it's like

what what happened when him and bubba's not too far from what's going on with Vince here. I mean, you know, and that was, if I'm not mistaken, that was that Bubba's request that he wanted to watch the Hulkster coming there and, and do that with his old lady. Yeah, I think what happened was it, so the way, because I got it from Bubba was that Bobba was leaving and Hulk was staying at his house while he was going through a divorce. And Bubba kind of said that he and his wife had an open marriage. Right.

And basically Hulk had said, man, I got to, I'm so stressed out about everything. I need to get laid. And Bubble was leaving. And he said, oh, well, why don't you take a Terry in there and bang her, you know, or have at it, you know. And she looks over at him. She's like, you know, shrugs it off like, yeah, I'm okay with it. And he's like, yeah, I'm leaving. So, you know, go ahead.

Do what you got to do. And he leaves. Then he finds out later, he realizes, oh, the cameras were on. right you didn't know the moment that you said that the cameras were on you know and then he he is one of his assistant grabs the camera they watch the video a couple times and then he tells them oh get rid of it oh yeah you just just get rid of that stop so and then his guy goes around trying to sell it but yeah it's it's the same kind like i don't listen first of all if we're getting a divorce or have an open marriage or whatever it is like Hulk Hogan's not fucking my girl bro i can't follow that

up. The guy's six foot fucking eight. Bubba's five foot six and 400 pounds. I'm sorry. No. That's a hell of a southern hospitality. You got on your wife. Oh, Willie, Millie. My God.

She didn't sue. How could he come back from that? How could you come back and follow up the Hulkster? Yeah. He got paid, man, from Gawker. My God. What was a hundred million?

it was like 100 million and then he turned around and sued and got another like 80 million or 60 million from like Cox media who had actually run the video who they were in charge of the internet connection or something that ran the video like they like poor poor Cox media they didn't know what was happening um Jesus yeah it was uh it was a he he got a now of course I don't think gawker media ever was able to pay very much if I if anything he basically bankrupted him but i'm sure in the end what does it matter if you got five million or 10 million or 20 million what does it matter that's a ton of money and it's not like he was broke anyway yeah well i don't know if he was in great financial position just because his wife i think took a lot of what he had and he made like i don't say bad it's kind of a double untender there took a lot of what he had oh yeah go ahead um i don't know if he made some of the best when I say financial decisions, I mean like endeavors, like I remember there was a pasta chain that he opened up called Hulkomania pastas or something like that.

You mean Hulk, Hulk, are you telling me that professional wrestlers don't make sound financial decisions? Next thing you're going to tell me is football players, don't tell me, or lottery winners aren't keeping all that money. Well, no, so I'll put it like this. His manager that would get him to back products showed him two products one of them was a blender and the other one was a little grill that the fat would drain off of his manager also managed george foreman all cogan thought who the hell would want a little grill if a man's cooking on a grill in the backyard give me that blender brother and george foreman took the grill and the rest is history wow so that's what i mean I know you can't hindsight be in 2020 he's going off he thinks he can't really blame

him for that you don't know what's going to hit and catch fire but he did have I think a chain that he tried to start Hulkomania pasta um that didn't go over to and I'm a pasta guy I love some attacking food but I don't Hulkomania pasta just it didn't hit home so he he's lost some money here and there with investments as a kid I loved all of his movies as an adult they're horrible they're just very very not good i can't give a polite word to how bad they are but he made money back in the day because i mean all this i had a lunchbox with hawk coconut as a kid i remember vividly my first lunchbox i ever carried to school had whole coconut but i when his wife took a lot of that money uh i don't think

he was doing well i think he had to pay a lot to get his son out of the trouble he was in you know he had that kid paralyzed right his car um and then he recently got busted for DUI again about a month ago. Hmm. Hulk Hogan like shows up to the scene after they've already got Nick and in jail and all of that. It's on YouTube. I watched the whole thing the other day and I think he was maybe trying to

hope they were going to let him go, but they weren't going to let him go. And Nick, I don't know, Nick could face some time for that. That, the mother of the son that was paralyzed immediately come out and was like, you know, what are they going to do? Keep letting him do it till he kills somebody and right. I mean, she's got a point. Right. no he's got to go to jail listen sometimes jail is what jail is that's what fix you is yeah

sometimes that's what makes you say oh wow i i got to straighten up i i can't i'm going to end up in here for a long time if i this keeps up i kill somebody i may get man a slaughter i'll end up doing 10 10 years in here you know in a florida in a state prison in florida hell that's ridiculous you don't want to do that they don't have air conditioning and and holt's got him a young one Sky. I'm thinking I don't know her full name. He just calls her sky. I believe you keep up with this stuff. Well, I went to Hogan's bar when I went down there to do your show. When I did your show and then I went into Clearwater where Danny's show was they have Hogan's hangout. Yeah. There's a restaurant down there. I go in there and it's

on a Friday night. Nick Hogan is DJing. I didn't really know anybody around there other than you you know or i didn't really know you i just did your show so i'm like i'll hang out here and see nick maybe hulk will come through sure enough later on that night the hulkster showed up and he had this blonde this much younger blonde much younger than he is um in there and you know he obviously had security couldn't really get near him uh he did come in the bathroom as i was coming out and he's like even though he's a lot shorter now he's still a big son of the bitch like he's big hello brother yeah oh he did that's what he said when i come like i opened the door it went out and it almost it was oh excuse me brother and i'm just like

oh yeah well listen when he came in was when he came in to the gym it was 90 it was like 1991 oh he's roared it out then buddy massive he'd walk in it was like god almighty this guy is huge he'd walk in and brian here how you doing brother good i was like oh my god hey bro i said uh yeah i said i'll i'll get him hold on um can you imagine what him and vince used to do back in the day in their heyday them too like those two personalities vents and holcogen then she's done over there brother it's under my way brother i just not damn it you did it again clean her off for god's sake clean her off brother good about that the line with hogan is he always had creative control in his contract so if anybody

ever said anything he didn't like or didn't want to do whether it's like hogan you need to lose this week the line is he would be like that doesn't work for me brother so i can see i can viz did the vince that doesn't work for me brother you got to you got to go first from now that doesn't work for break out the garden nose oh my god uh you got work to do pal you got work to do pal you got work to do consensual work to do none of these shenanigans going on like vince all right that'll do it hey i really appreciate you guys watching uh thank you very much to hollywood wade for breaking down the uh vince mcman issues uh lawsuit whatever's going on the uh what would we say scandal the Vince McMahon scandal and so I appreciate you guys watching to be

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