Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - The Untold Stories of an Ex-Dealer

Episode Date: October 16, 2024

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Hey, this is Matt Cox, and I'm here with Norris Henderson, and we're going to be doing an interview. I was actually, I was locked up in the halfway house. Were we in Coleman? Yeah, we had Coleman together, too. Yeah, Coleman and the halfway house together. Okay, anyway, so check this out. So, you were locked up for like over 10 years, right? No, I didn't.

I did nine years and some change. Right, but what did you get? 135 once or something you said yeah um okay so and what was the what was the what was a what we charged with uh drug drug trafficking and furtherance of a drug trafficking crime crack cocaine you know pistol charge you know they get a 924 C so they're going to run everything concurrent because well consecutive right so you know what I'm saying Okay. All right. Well, so where, let's start at the beginning. Like, where were you born? St. Petersburg, Florida.

Okay. Most of my, you know, my family, we migrated from Georgia. My family, my mom and everybody came to, came to Florida. You know, I was born in, I was born in Florida, though, St. Petersburg, Florida. I'm like, so like my roots is Georgia and North Carolina, you know what I'm saying? how many um how many kids in your uh any brothers sisters yes i got i got two brothers two sisters they're all older than me i'm the youngest you know they all got the same father so i had my i got a different father than them you what did you and you with uh high school and everything in st pete yeah i went to bogusiega high school played basketball i didn't play football but

you know i played basketball and shit all right so how was i mean how was i mean how growing up were you a good kid or what you know me i mean i was but you know i still still got a little trouble you know what i'm saying time to time you know i guess i guess i don't know i guess i don't know i guess probably maybe my dad would have been there for me it had been a little better for me you know what i mean right but i've been you know were your i mean were your older brothers and sister were they on when you were growing up or oh they was there They were there, so they're not like 10 or 50. Like my, my brothers and sisters were basically, by the time I was like six or seven, they were all gone because they were way older than me.

No, we all grew up in the same household. So we're all like a year or two apart from each other. Okay. So how did, how did you start, like you went to high school? Did you start, were you selling drugs then or like? Yeah, that kind of, I kind of like, that was like the start, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, I didn't have, one of them didn't really have much money. So it was like, you know, it's five of us.

She took her off five of us. So it's like, you know, I used to steal that store to make money to buy clothes and shit. You know what I'm saying? Breaking cars and shit. But, you know, my first, my first gig for hustling was like one of my OGs gave me a, gave me an ounce of marijuana, showed me how to sack it up. You know what I'm saying? So he's just saying, okay, you make.

you make $40, you bring me back $60, you feel what I'm saying? So all my little homies, we all smoked weed. So it was like, that's how I was getting off it, you know what I'm saying? I'm bringing his money, bring mine. But it was like, shit, that was like too slow. Right. So like my neighborhood where I live at 36th Street block is like, it's like a dope hole. Like it's a one long street.

You can come through there, you can buy a crack, pile, water, weed. It wasn't no hair around back then that I knew of, but it was mostly cracking crack marijuana and cocaine, you know what I'm saying? So my OG, it's a female, her name, her name Fee. I'm going to call her fee, you know what I'm saying? She's a big dope deal in the city. You know, I used to run around her sons and we play together basketball and share her son. So I knew she, I knew she sold crack. So I pulled up on her one day. I had my last like $30 on me. I went to her house, you know what I'm saying?

I'm like, hey, man, let me get some feet. You know what I'm saying? She's like, what you talk about? I said, man, I need some crack. She said, nigga, what, you smoke? I'm like, hell, no. I said, man, I try to get my hustle on. And so she came out with this big sucker crack, right?

Man, more way, man, she had rocks so big. Like, these big. And she was like, all you do, you know, you take one, you bust it down, and you sell it for $10. I'm going to sell them to you for $10 a piece. So you just break it down and you'll make more than money. You just come back and see me. So once I broke it down, it was like I was getting like $40 off each rock.

I'm spending $10, but I'm making a $30 profit of each one. So I got like three of them from them. I broke them down. I made like $9. I went to the hood. Went to my block because he only stayed a couple of streets over. So I got to my hood. It was like, shit.

I broke them thing down. I had $90, $90 worth of rock. So, man, them things went so fast. I went by tour the next day. She's like, you got off all that that quick? I'm like, yeah, yeah, let me get, let me get nine of them. So she actually gave me 10 for my money because she knew I'm on my way to come up, you know what I'm saying?

So I broke them down, boom, boom, boom, boom. Shit, I ain't looked back six. And this was the 90, 95. No, it was like 93 because I was still in high school. So I was able to get me some clothes. get me some fresh shoes, you know what I'm saying? So I have a question. So when you say like you're just selling to people that are just driving through the neighborhood,

they're looking for crack, they're just coming through, you're not finding it, going fine anybody, they're just driving through. Yeah, because my neighbor has my street. It's just like, it's like a dope hole, you know what I'm saying? It's a street. You just pull up. And then you had, then you had smokers walking up, you know, neighborhood smokers, you know what I'm saying?

Well, if I put up on bicycles and shit, then down the street, it's like a little alley way a little small alleyway that go to the next street you know we used to post up down there too me and my little homies and we just we just sit there and post up on a block all day and let the money come through and get off it you know what I'm saying okay and you said and you kept going and going and then what was what happened what was you know what it was uh like I was like I was still playing basketball and shit you know high school basketball and so you know I hustle. And then I had a job, too. I got a job. I used to work at a McDonald's, Food Lion, Rain Dixie. You know, I kept a job, you know what I'm saying? But I was hustling on

the side, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, long-store, I graduated. You know, I had plans on going to college and everything, but, you know, I had caught a felony, pulled around with one of my home books, you know what I'm saying? So I caught this felony. So it was like, that kind of fucked up my college. college scholarship how did that happen but it was me we were we were riding one we were riding in my car had just bought me a car you know what I'm saying so we riding in my car and he was high on cocaine he in the back seat it was it was three or four of us in the car so we were hanging out drinking and smoking you know what I'm saying and the other guy he was like high on cocaine or

whatever so I picked them up from another spot but I'm dropping them all I'm taking everybody at home. And his house is like two houses down from where I was dropping him off at. So he's like, no, you're going to drop me up in front of my house. I'm like, drop him front of your house, man. You can get your ass up out of here. So he didn't want to get out. He was in the back seat behind me. So we're driving. I'm going to drop the other guys off. So I drop one of my homeboys off. So I'm coming back to drop the other dude off. And he's telling me, man, you got to drop me up at my house on my front door. I'm like, man, I ain't pick you up from there. So all of a sudden, I had some tools in my back seat on the floor, and he reached over,

and he stabbed me with a screwdriver in the top of my head, you know what I'm saying, was attacking me. The car, the car moving, I'm just, I don't feel it at first. I'm just, I just jumped out. I just turned around and I'm just fighting him in the back seat. I'm beating his ass, you know what I'm saying? So all in all, blood running down my head. So the car runs, the car runs into a I think a trash can of something and stops because I had a stick shift so it automatically stopped

you know what I'm saying so I'm beating his ass so I get out the car I'm bloody and shit mother home boy he's standing there he got a gun on him I don't know he got the gun on him so he's telling me look

man here no I'm like no I'm scraped the dude running then I thought about it I told him to give it to me now and he told me no and I kind of thank God he didn't give it to me

because I would have shot the shit out of his ass while he's running So, so I say, fuck it. I get him on a car. I got a crowbar in the trunk. I grab it, and I chase him to his house because he won't stay too far for what an incident happened.

So I get to his house. He inside his house. I'm beating on his mom door with the crowbar trying to get in there. I'm beating all the windows out of the house, the garage door, and everything. His dad come out. His family know me, you know what I'm saying? They see me all bloody and shit. They don't know what's going on, you know what I'm saying?

So, so I just, I just. lead. They call the police. I leave. So, like, probably like three months later, I'm at school and a school resource officer come get me. He say, I need you, I need to come up to my office with me.

I'm like, what's going on? You know what I'm saying? So I get there and he say, you got a warrant for your arrest. I got to take you to the county jail. I'm like, what the fuck? Like, yeah, you got a warrant for vandalism and some other charge. It was a misdemeanor one felony, so he'd take me down and book me.

And my high school basketball coach, Mr. Kieffel, he'd come down and see me. He asked me what's going on. I explained to him what happened, you know what I'm saying? So he didn't bomb me out. They gave me R&R, release of my own reconnaissance. So I get out, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, I didn't have no lawyer. I didn't know no about lawyer, you know what I'm saying? So it was like, I got a public defender and I just took a plea deal. And that was probably the worst thing I could have did because it gave me a third degree felony

and it fucked up my chance to get a scholarship for basketball. So I'm stuck. I'm like shit, fuck it, you know what I'm saying? I'm all in. I just went ahead and started by hustling, you know. And I still graduated though. You know what I still graduated?

I still graduated high school. But it was like, it was like, it was hurting. But at the same time, man, I ain't really care anymore. I'm like, fuck it. I'm in the streets now, you know. I'm on a block every day. Then I, like, a year later, I decided to enroll in junior college. So I go to junior college.

I'm still getting my education, but I'm still hustling, though. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just, I said, fuck it, man. I'm all in now. So I'm rising in a dope game, but it's like, like, I'm not seeing the money that I need to see. you know what I'm saying I'm going to spend it on on a car's jury money you know what I'm saying this is like actually one of my first cars I hooked up you know what I'm saying I put paint on it

some you know some rims you know what I'm saying right so I'm in the street life you know it's it like this is now are you are you watching like your buddies get get popped or like Are you realizing that, hey, this, that, like, are you seeing people get arrested and you, I mean, you know what it is. You know, you're going to get, eventually, you know, you're getting grabbed. Yeah, this is, this, like I say, this was in 94, 95 after I graduated. So, like, I'm seeing, I'm seeing people getting knocked off, you know what I mean, but I'm, I'm just being, like, I didn't hang no, I hung in the crowd, but I didn't hang in

the crowd, you know what I'm saying? Like, I got me a beeper, so my clientele called me, so now I'm not. I don't really on the block no more. I got people calling me. So when they call me, boom, I go meet them, make the money, then I'm not the way, you feel what I'm saying? So how I was moving, I never caught a dope case. I caught one.

This, me and my, like I was on, after that situation with the, with the guy who attacked me, you know what I'm saying? I have his own probation. I was actually on house arrest, but I was still hustling. So I basically was on house arrest, but I was still leaving, going to get more. money every day. So one night we're at, we're at Denny's, me and my girl. So we had a Denny's late night, north side St. Pete. So I'm in that same car. I just showed you. And the sheriff

sitting outside the park a lot across the street. So I got, I got crack on me. I got a gun on me. I got a reefer. So I'm telling her, shit, you hold a weed. I'll cuff the crack. And I had a little stash spot for my gun in my car. So we're leaving. We're heading. We're heading back to south st pete and the man so many sheriffs came out of nowhere man just swam my car boom boom boom they say uh you got you got a warrant for your arrest i'm like for what

he said you your insurance expired i know how my assurance is inspired because i just paid it man i keep my insurance you know what i'm saying so they arrested me took me to the county jail when they searched me they found a crack but they never found a gun you know what I'm saying i had a where i had the stash by the gun was hitting real good So they found a crack on me.

So they arrested me. I had so many charges, man. Like, they hit me with cells and possession, possession of crack. I had one sack of weed. They said, possession of the weed. Cells and possess of the weed. They gave me seven charges, man, almost, something like that. All felonies damn there.

So I'm sitting in the county jail. I'm miserable at hell. I ain't never been through it like this is my second time going to jail. You know what I'm saying as an adult. So one of the guys in the dorm was, It was like, man, you sit around letting that shit worry, man, you need to get in the law library. You say you just graduated, you know what I'm saying? So I went to think about it.

He's like, man, this is all you do. You look up your charges and go find out what the first charge they gave you would and find out if it was legal for them to do that. So I went to thinking, like, I knew my assurance wasn't expired. So that was, that was strike one against them, you know what I'm saying? They violated my constitutional rights. So I looked up some case laws. And then it was like the public defender that gave me. All he kept doing was cop out to these charges.

I'm like, hell no. So he was calling my mom, too. Tell him my mom, look, tell him to take the plea deal. Or he's going to get a lot of time. You know what I'm saying? I'm telling my mom, look. I ain't coping out of shit. Fuck that shit.

So I got in a law library. I wrote all the statues down and wrote what they did wrong and what they could charge me with and what they couldn't charge me with and sent it to the public defender. Boom. I said, man, I need, I need you file this shit. You know what I'm saying? He filed it.

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Support the channel. Join Matthew Cox's Patreon. They hit me with that, but it gave me, it was a lighter sentence. They gave me like probation, added on to my house arrest, it already had, so they really just extended it, you feel what I'm saying? They let me out. So I went home, you know, I said, fuck that shit. I'm just going to be way more smarter this time, you know what I'm saying?

They ain't going to keep shit on me. You know what I'm saying? So I just got out and just got back to getting money, man. So like I said, I had a long run before I really caught another case. This case I just caught, I got knocked off in 2013. This happened in 96, 97, when I caught that first charge. You know what I'm saying? So I was, I was really, I was out slicking these people for years, man, you know?

That's how I felt, you know? Right. So, you know, I'm sorry, go ahead. But so what, so your, but your, I mean, at this point, you got a, you got an apartment. You have, are like, are you, you got a car, apartment. You, like, what's the plan? I'm staying with my mom. So it's like, you know, I'm still hustling.

I ain't, I ain't really got no plan. I'm just living day-to-day getting money. So it was like, I ran into one of my old homeboys where I ran the streets with as a jitterbug, you know. You know what I'm saying? We used to get in trouble and shit, you know what I'm saying? As kids. So he just got back from college and he wasn't going back. So we got us a spot.

We got us a spot and we just started trapping, man. You know, selling crack, man. We learned how to, one of other homie showed us how to cook. We'll take one ounce, blow it up, turn it to two ounces of crack, man. And we just cut that thing up. We get the ounces for like 700. We'll cut the ounces. Once we cook it up and turn it.

Turned 28 grams into like 50 grams. We're cutting almost like $2,500 worth of crack off one ounce. So we're doing this now, you know what I'm saying? We elevate now. Once I got with him, we just came with a game plan, and this is what we're going to do now. Every time we buy ounces, we're cooking it all up, and we're going to sell it out this goddamn trap house we got. We had a trap house on the other side of town of St. Pete.

and it's like a neighborhood where you got number of crackhead just walk around gas station right there and man look and that thing that thing's 24 hours man number number bases coming in and out of that man spending money man five 10 dollar we're getting everything coming through there so that that was like my next elevating in the dope game you know what I'm saying so it was like okay now I'm really seeing money now you know I'm I'm sitting on 10, 15,000, like, easy now, you know what I'm saying? But I still don't know. I got enough money to buy a whole kilo.

We don't, we don't know this. We just, we're small-time hustlers. That's how we get at it. So we just deal what we had to do right then, you know what I'm saying? To one of my homies, his cousin came and pulled up on us and was like, he's seen us buying ounces, ounces, ounces. He's like, man, y'all got enough, do y'all got enough money to buy y'all a whole brick? So we started

We just we debated on it for a second Because we knew we knew there's a lot of slimy shit going on you know what I'm saying So we didn't want to put all our money at risk like that So my bro my bro my bro, like man look here man I got another club A Cuban guy he ran into Like he was like man look He got some good shit

You know what I'm saying So we basically started dealing with him you know what I mean he was from uh columbia some god damn well even a columbia or some some guy then well i didn't know he was spanish you know what said but he was he started he started looking out for us we was getting was getting probably like paying like 18 close to close to 17 18 000 of brick so now it's like okay let's do this here you're you're buying a brick for 18 grand yeah and we're cutting it yeah we're breaking it yeah we're breaking all down like

breaking out of ounces and cooking it all up like we're we're we're not selling nobody no it none of our cope we're cooking it all up and rocking it up letting it let me let me go out this goddamn trap house well how much does eight you you invest 18 000 you cook it up and you sell it what do you make you're gonna you're gonna we're seeing almost 70 grand off of a keep so how's how man probably a week and a half two weeks fuck yeah okay selling it all crack you know what I'm saying and then you know sometimes we'll we got homie that that want like a half ounce of crack we'll we'll sell them

but a majority time we're cooking everything up you know what I'm saying how long does this go on? We did this We had a nice run, probably about a good, good two years. You know what I mean? About a good year, one to two years. We had a good run, you know what I'm saying? What it was like, we're all growing, we're all going apart. He went back to college.

So he went ahead and he went and rode in Florida State, I think. Yeah, he went to Florida State. He left St. Pete, and he moved to Tallahassee. and he went and rolled in Florida. So I'm still, huh? I was going to say, where are you living?

Like, what are you driving at this point? Where are you still living? You're not still living in your mom's making. Yeah. I'm, I'm still there, but I'm,

I'm still helping her out, you know what I'm saying, but. Right. So I had, I bought, I had bought a, you know,

I think I got a picture up in there here. I had switched it up. You know what I did with them pictures? Oh, man. I had bought a Chevrolet. Put some candy paint on it. I had some Dayton's on it. I know what I did with the picture.

Let me see if I got these pictures right here. But this, just the car I had, like. What are you doing with your money? Man, we partying, man. Partying, back clothes. You know what I'm saying? Just, just living it up, man. You know, we was young.

You know what I mean? Like, when you, when you're young, man, you're touching that kind of money, man. And, you know, you can make, you're going to make it back. You know, we wasn't giving a, up. Right. So, so your, your, your, your, your partner goes back to, or he goes back to college. What do you, what do you do? Do you keep running the house? You keep running the place or what? No, uh, we closed it down and I, I got another spot. I went ahead and

moved into another, I found another spot. But this time, this time I'm by myself, you know what I'm saying? This was like, this was like in 90, like 99, late 99 going into 2000. You know, I mean I came up with another game playing you know but but the plug we had he wasn't he wasn't he wasn't he wasn't I want to say I don't know if he wanted to fuck with us no more because you know we made it we made him so much money whatever but shit kind of went dry you know what I'm saying so it's like I don't really I don't really trust too many people you know what I'm saying far as spending my spending like spending that kind of money with people you know what I'm saying but I found my cousin one of my cousins uh he had just

got out of federal prison and he knew some people that had some good some good work for so for me you know what I mean so so when he got out this this is like he got out like 2001 he did like a five-year-bid federal and he got out like 2001 and he pulled it up on me you know what I'm saying he heard you know he heard through the that I was doing my thing you know what I'm saying so he slid up on me I threw him a couple dollars or whatever help him out you know what I'm saying He was like, man, just give me a couple of, give me a couple of weeks. Once I get settled in, you know what I mean? I'm going to pull up on you.

You know, I'm going to holl out of some people because I know some other people. He knew some Mexicans that had some good shit, too, you know what I'm saying? That he was locked up with. But I guess he was, you know, he was just giving himself time, you know what I'm saying, to get out because he don't know how to, he don't know how the fed is going to work. You know, they're going to watch. Yeah, they're going to watch you when you get out, you know what I'm saying. So, like, man, just chill out, do your thing, man.

Just stay out the way until I get right. And then we're going to come up with a game plan. You know what I mean? So at the time, I was like, shit, I had, my money had got kind of low. But, you know, I'm still, you know, I still have probably had a few thousand dollars. But that ain't really, that wasn't really no money. But it's being there, I wasn't broke, you feel what I'm saying? And with my hustle, you know what I'm saying?

I wasn't worried about, weren't about going broke because I know I can, I know how to flip money. You know what I'm saying? Even if it was go buy a couple pounds of marijuana break it down and get off it like that, just, you know, just flip money, you know what I'm saying? Period. Everybody ain't got that gift to take a couple dollars or that mentality

is just okay. I can go, I can go get these say, I can go get five pounds for 600 a piece and go over here and sell them for for 800 a piece right quick light. You feel what I'm saying? And do this and do this in a couple

minutes and know who go know who to go see so now you're profit you're profiting a thousand dollars you spot you spot maybe 3500 for a gram but you're going to profit a thousand dollars right quick you feel I'm saying that it's we call it a quick flip yeah you know what I mean where you can do this do that and make it a quick flip and get right back you know what I'm saying you do that two times two times a day maybe maybe two three times out the week you know and you just sit back in man another thing too is money management you know what saying when you're in a dope game you got to know how to manage your money you know what i mean you don't manage it you'll you'll ball out and be broke you know i don't i don't fail maybe rock bottom twice that's because i

trusted someone with my money not that i blew my money you know what i mean i trusted somebody to go re-up for me or re-up with me and shit went sour that's the only time i ever went bro well hit rock bottom other than that i know when to stop spending money and manage money you know what i mean yeah yeah i used to talk about i used to when i you know i talked you know i taught the real estate class right uh-huh um i used to always say like you know these guys like listen the drug dealers like they they have that hustle mentality and in real estate like they would do great yeah because you know they're going they're going they're going to neighborhoods that most people won't go into.

They don't have a problem talking to anybody. They'll go up to anybody and start talking to them. And most people can't do that. And, you know, they don't mind going in the neighborhood. They don't mind knocking on doors. They don't mind talking to people. And if they need to come up with some money, even if they only got five grand, they can make three phone calls and get 30 or 40 grand.

Yeah. Like they know people that'll lend them 10 grand, 5 grand, 7 grand. You know, they'll put it together pretty quick. Most people don't have that. that's if you got if you're reliable like like you if you're i want to say if you're your face good you feel i'm saying you're not you're not a slimy motherfucker scamback motherfucker you know everybody know that okay then you're a hustling ass dude and and you know how to go get it you feel i'm saying yeah you know you know you can lend money to like i i got a buddy who's getting

out of jail and it's like look if i you know if you need a couple thousand like i'll i know i'll give it to him because i know he'll give me the money back he's good for it there are other guys i know that they said hey can you give me a hundred bucks i'd be like yeah man i can't i like giving you nothing you ain't never gonna pay me back no right you're funny i like hanging out with you but i you're a bottomless pit so it's best it's best to say hey man i'm i'm gonna give you this here and you just you just you ain't got to pay me that back you know what so what so what happened how does this thing like how do they like are your buddy at this point are there any close calls is anybody coming like people around you getting busted like you your buddies get busted

my city is like like people like people still go to jail state charges but but back then like you rarely we rarely seen people go federal unless you was really doing it big you feel I'm saying so it was like guys are catching dope cases boom they're going to state prison Boom, Catch a Doca ain't going to stay prison. Like, I avoided that shit for so many years, man. So I guess how I moves and how I operated, it wasn't like I was leaving paper trails anyway either. Are you just hanging out with regular working class stiffs

or are you hanging out with other drug dealers? I'm hanging out with the drug dealers, you know what I mean? But when I go to the club, I'm by myself. I'll pull up, I league. I'm by myself, you know what I'm saying? We all, the guys I feel like myself, we're all, we're all the same way. So it's like we all, we all had our own cars, you know, we all have plenty of bitches. And we all had our money.

So it's like, hey, what's up? What we're doing tonight? We meet at the club, you feel, we all meet up at the club. We never really get together and ride in the same car to the club. You feel what I'm saying? We'll all meet up, you know. so then it was like after I sold that Chevrolet I had bought this car right here I bought one of these the North Star Cadillac right so it was like I sold that bought that car you know what I'm

saying at the same time still waiting on my cousin to come through you know what I'm saying with this plug but you know I I I would just like like like me like I knew like round this time a year it'd be indictment season you know i hear that too much like when november hit it's time to chill the fuck out you feel what i'm saying right that's when they that's when the fans come and do their sweep and i was seeing that on a regular now you know what i mean like this time of year okay i i know to chill the fuck out i could spend spend a couple dollars and you know but i still know how to manage money i knew how to make a play okay i can make a play for a thousand dollars i'm going to sit my ass down again you know what i mean and get out the way you

you know, I go to a club, I ain't blowing a lot of money, you know. I know how to come to the club and hang out a little bit, you know, just stay out the way, you feel what I'm saying? So I did go back to the junior college, St. Pete Junior College, you know, and try to brush up on my education and see if I can try to earn a basketball scholarship at the same time, you know what I'm saying? That ain't work out. Like, I got out there, and I played good.

It was like the, it was a black coach. He was assistant coach. He knew me from growing up playing in rec leagues and stuff. And he was becoming the next head coach at St.P. Junior College. And it was a Caucasian coach. He was leaving. And I introduced myself to him. And when they had the tryouts, he said, man, I like your game.

I really want you a board. you know what I'm saying but the other coach the black coach was like I don't know what he said to him but it's like he lost interest in interest in me I don't know if he might have told him

he knew me for selling dope you feel what I'm saying that's how that's my mentality it was because I know he he knew what's going on in the streets you know his sons his son's probably telling him what's going on you know

but he didn't know that that was like my way of wanting to get out the hood and get out the city, you know, play ball and try to get a scholarship, man. I really want to go to the NBA, man, like real, real shit. Like, my game, like, high field, my heart, man, I know I could have made it in the league

if I got a chance, you know what I'm saying? But it kind of hurt that, that my own, it was like my own kind, they really want to help me, feel what I'm saying? He served over a decade in federal prison for bank fraud, and he still owes the government six million, and restitution, but he's good for it. He is the most interesting man in the world.

I don't typically commit crime, but when I do, it's bank fraud. Stay greedy, my friends. Support the channel. Join Matthew Cox's Patreon. I mean, I had to take it for what it was, and then it was crazy, like, because I called my grandmother up in North Carolina. She stayed in Greensboro, in New Carolina. and I used to talk to her and tell her what happened

and she was like, baby, just come up here. You know what I'm saying? So we actually had a family reunion up there and I flew up there with my mom and them and shit. I let my uncles in and told them what was going on. He was like, man, just come on up here. You can kind of get in school up here. So I went back and I thought about it.

So I shit, I packed the U-Haul up, put my car on a trailer. year, and hit it. One of my home boys, his name, Oscar Davenport, he used to play for North Carolina Tar Hills. He played football quarterback that year. It was his last year, seen year. So he was in St. Pete for that weekend.

He needed a way back up there. I said, come on, shit. We took turn driving, so we drove from St. Pete, North Carolina. So I get up there. I get settled in. I grabbed my school transcripts. I went to New Carolina,

and T campus and hollet at the coach but what i did when i got there first i went to play ball they had a gym open so it was like an open open you know just just pre-recking out there so i'm killing the guys out there man so some of the players who uh who was on the team they asked me who i was where i from you know i introduced myself and everything like man you need you need to you need to try out you know what i'm saying so i leave i leave to i had to run in my car for something I think I went and got my paperwork and came back in and one of the guys took me to the office

I was where you go register at so I'm in there, I'm talking to I think this guy was the assistant coach or something for the team. He's a white guy but he was, he's, he the guys were telling about me and he was like he was really trying to be so

helpful to get me registered and get me, get me trying out and try to get me on the team, you know what I'm saying? Right. they had a head black coach he didn't want nothing to deal with me like like this was the this was the most hurting feeling it's like it's like it's like deja vu all over again you feel what I'm saying I'm like damn like my own kind don't want to help me like what the fuck I got I got the white guy willing to break his back to help me he see the potential but I got I got my own kind I don't want

to help me so it was like damn man what the heck like I want to talk to my grandmother about it. You're like, I don't know what you want to do with me, but whatever you make your mind do, I support you. So, so Granny was like, shit, what's you going to do? I'm like, you know, my son had just been born. He was like going, he was like 11 months old. I wouldn't have to think about all of that. You feel I'm saying? So it's like, so granny, man, I got to get back to the city, man. I packed up, I packed up everything in my car. I just hit it. To old, man, I holl at him. Holled at him. Holled at them and just hit the road i stopped in alana on my way back hollied at my cousin he was he was

standing in lana then i then after i left him i hit i hit back to st pete so it was like damn what i'm gonna do now first thing smoking i hollied at my cuss he was already doing his thing after he got out by this point he had already got out of prison right so so he was he was doing this thing and I had I had like three four thousand dollars cash I went straight to him and like man look I'm ready I'm ready to get some paper man fucking I'm back fuck that college shit this at the time this was not like 19 99 going on 2000 early 2000s like fuck it let's go so he he he break me off for my for my four grand I just I just I just I went in his spot actually and cooked up all the crack because he sold me powder.

I cooked it all up, went back to my mom's house, chilt that, and then I just broke everything down to rocks, man, and just, you know, cell phones had to start being popular then, you know what I'm saying? It started coming out, so everybody was getting cell phones now. So I just rode around through the city, different dope holes, and still incline tail. I pull up on a smoker and give him a little sample. Hey, man, he'll go my number call me. You know anybody wants something called me, you know what I'm saying? Next thing I know, my phone ringing now. It was like, shit, let's go.

So now I'm back at it now, you know, so I'm like, shit, I ain't got no plan, but this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to make money, so I'm ride around all day. I went and bought a little hoopty to ride around to sell my dope ends. I'm ride around all day, just selling crack out of car, you know what I mean? How long does this go on? This went on, about six months, six, seven months, too, almost a year. You know, I'm sticking and moving, you know what I mean?

So I'm like, shit, I'm coming up with another game playing, but at the same time, it was like, I'm, I'm comfort. I'm comfortable with what I got going on now, you know what I mean? So this is like 2001, 2001, I'm sliding real good. So now it's like another one of my partners that I ran the streets with as a youngster. He pulled up on me. You know, he said he got another plan, you know what I'm saying? Do I want to end on it?

Like, what you're talking about? Like, so we sat down, we talked about it. It was a plan that shit. he had a cousin that was going to front him some keys he won a certain price for a certain price for them and all he wanted us to do was get rid of them and whatever we made we made this with this price shit i can help do that ain't got to spend my money shit let's go so he was he was giving it to us for like 15 grand 15 16 grand at the time it was it was some good coke it wasn't a best but it was some good coke so we're breaking them all down to ounces and i and uh we call them interstates that's four and a half you know what i'm saying that we didn't we didn't sell them whole we didn't sell them halves we wanted he said four and a halves and ounces that's how we're getting rid of the four and a half's what we'll do we'll take fours four ounces and we put 14 grams

a cut on each one, each four ounces. And then we'll take the other, other ounces that we break down. We'll put like 25 grams in each one and put three grams of cut in it. So we're basically making extra money now. Right. So now once we do that,

we're seeing close to 33,000 off each keep right fast, though. You feel I'm saying? We're doing this shit fast. So he'll bring us three. He'll bring us two or three bricks at a time. We'll do this. We're getting off them.

We do about a week. It was about a week. You know, St. Pete is a small city, but, man, it's money circulating in it. So we're doing this. We're doing it. We're doing two or three keys a week, easy. So once we got this going now, no, I don't got my, I don't bounce back. So I'm able to buy my own now.

He able to buy his own now. We tell him, look, you ain't got a. front us no more let us let us buy let's buy on and you know we'll keep it pushing so we don't have to owe him that's that that was our mentality now we do what we got to do pump up and we'll buy on now you know what I'm saying right all right so now so now we're we're we're doing our thing now so actually and then a home boy he catch he catch a case so he had he had his uh he had his house one night and somebody breaking the house and it he ended up killing him you know what I'm saying

they know the person who broke in yeah and trying to find out it was actually somebody who he was close to that he was that he was cool with you know what you know what right do dude used to come over to hang out with him and smoke and drink and then you know kind of find out because this ain't this this ain't happened just one time it happened like multiple times because he'd tell me he's like man somebody broke in the house last night while i was in here i said man i got to be somebody that's comfortable with you feel what i'm saying right he he he never he didn't have a doubt it was me you know what I'm saying but he used to have a lot a few guys over from that neighborhood where his house was at so

So we kind of find out, the dude was leaving, the dude was believing, because the house where you're staying is kind of big. So he was, he kind of found out the dude was leaving the window open. And he sneak in because he know, you know, my dog, he get drunk, you get high, you know, he pass out. He'd be, he sleep hard, you know what I'm saying?

So, so that night, that shit happened. It was like, when he killed him, he put the dude had a mask on when he pulled a mask off on him he was he was just shocked like he couldn't believe he couldn't believe that I was a dude who was doing it like like I say this shit happened multiple times you know but you're you're only going to get away with something for so long you know what I mean right especially if some Miami shit you know what I'm saying especially when you're cool with a dude and you started breaking in his house thinking it's thinking it's cool you're going to

eventually get caught you know what I mean and that's what happened. The new BMO VI Porter MasterCard is your ticket to more. More perks, more points, more flights, more of all the things you want in a travel rewards card, and then some.

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and he ended up beating it. You're going to say the guy broke in his house. Yeah. But man, they wasn't trying to hear that shit, man. They charged him with murder, man. Like St. Pete, man, they, this shit fucked up, man.

They charged him with the murder, you know what I'm saying? Well, he paid like $50,000 for the lawyer, and he ended up beating it. He ended up getting probation for the gun. You know what I'm saying? So that was like a blessing, you know? like a real

blessing so you know after he beat the case you know what I'm saying he just killed the fuck out you know for me

I just I just I kind of separated I still fuck with him but I kind of separated myself from the situation because I know

shit was hot you know what I mean he just beat this case so I know I know it won't be long you know what I mean they're gonna they're gonna still watch

they know they know he wasn't he was doing something for him to break in there you know what I mean yeah so I kind of I kind of faded away in my own corner you know just fell back you know what I mean and then I ran it I ran into one of my other cousins this was like in 2003 I ran into my other cousin who got out of feds who did a good affair he did like 10 years he just getting out And he was, he was, he was ready to get some money as soon as he got out. But, you know, I was skeptical about fucking with him at first. You know what I'm saying? But he, he, he, he, he used cocaine, though.

You feel what I'm saying? He was, he was, he was, he was a user. He a hustler, but he was a user, though. So, like, so he pulled up on me, you're like, man, you're straight. I'm like, no, I ain't got nothing right now. But, you know what I'm saying? Like, you ain't been having nothing? Like, I've been chilling.

Like, shit. I know some people's, you know what I mean? Like, what you mean? Like, I know some people that I'd be having some good shit. So I got with him probably like a couple weeks later. I go over to the house. He got some, he got some Mexicans over there. So they all over there chilling.

And he introduced me to him and everything. And he was telling me how they got, they got whatever we want. You know what I'm saying? Whatever I want, you know what I'm saying? So we actually went to the club. up. I ain't really do no business with them at first. We just, we just hung out. You know what I'm saying? We had to Tampa. Hung out a few clubs. You know what I mean? Spent the time. I got, I just, I sat by and got a chance to know them first. So around this time, it's like 2004, 2005 year. So, so I say, I'm ready, man,

what we're going to do? So they, they hit me up. They come to my house, you know what I'm saying? At this time, I had them bought me a house and everything. You know, I bought the house right direct close from my mom's house. I got a fine ass, though. So I got my own house now and everything. So they come over to my house. We're sitting right there chopping it up. He's telling me what he want for him.

He wanted like 18, 5 at first. That's what the price was going for, like 18, 85 for me first. Once he's seen that I was coming back. you know what I'm saying consistently the prices started dropping you know what I'm saying so I'm basically like okay I bought I bought the first one you know I already knew who to go through and get rid of this shit now you know what I'm saying I ain't no more selling no more crack right it's ounces and four four ways you know what I'm saying I'm I got I got I got these guys in this neighborhood I got I got four different four different guys

in different neighborhoods who I can go to and they're going to buy that shit immediately. So I get rid of the first brick I buy from. I call him back like the next day. He's like, you're doing already? I'm like, yeah, man, that shit ain't that shit. That shit went flat because it's good, you know what I'm saying? So he come back, I buy one, he'll leave me one.

All right. He said, I'm going to give you a couple more days, you know what I'm saying, see what you can do. Shit, that shit, them two was gone within 24 hours too I was like shit I can do so I can get used to this shit I'm doing this shit in 24 hours

I'm making his money and my money now like this shit this 24 hour clockwork like less than 24 hours this shit gone so so I like shit I called him back up he's like man I ain't gonna be back to next week just hold the money down you know what I'm saying so he came back to next week

man he came when he came back in he had five of them for me so I paid I paid for one I paid for two actually and he gave me three he's like this here man don't rush just take your time because I'm like man you know money called him getting rid of this shit right so so I'm at my house I'm looking like shit

I ain't never had as much work at one time you know I got five, five bricks in right here in front of my face. Like, really like, okay, shit. This is what I'm going to do. I'm going to keep, put one up. I'm going to take these four and break all these down. I did two of them in four ways, and two of them I did straight ounces, like, ounce to my amount, 28 grams, each ones.

I was selling them for, like, I was selling an ounce of, like, $1,000. And I was selling the four ways for, like, $3,300. even though I'm still putting putting 14 grams on the four ways making it making it four to a half you know what I'm saying so I'm sending them 30300 I'm sending ounces for a stack

man I got rid of them five bricks within the four bricks within like I want to say like five days it took me like five days you know what I'm saying because the guys who I was dealing with they already had work that they just got from me So it went, you know what I mean? So like that next week when he popped up, you know what I'm saying?

I got all his money counting out, boom, boom. I got all mine put up. I'm telling him, man, what's up? What we're going to do next? He's like, shit. What you want to? You want to double this shit up or you want to just stay doing this shit here? I'm like, no, I'm going to stick.

Like, bring me five. I want to do five again. You know what I'm saying? So I said, this is we're going to do, though. I'm going to sell some of these holes. I'm going to sell two of them and I'm going to break the other three down because I knew a couple guys

who was ready to buy holes, you know what I'm saying? So what they'll do, they'll grab his money, his money, his money, and they'll patch it up. You feel I'm saying? To buy the hole. But what I do, this time go around, I would take four and a half out of each brick

and put four and a half back into the brick. and I would mush it all together and then I would compress it back together and basically re-rock it, you feel what I'm saying? So now I can take, now I can do this here out of each brick and put away a four-way out of each brick. Actually, I was taking like a hundred and, about a hundred and a hundred, about a hundred and twelve grams out of each brick, basically.

Instead of 125 grand, I take a hundred and twelve out of each brick. So it would still be good. So I put them back together, boom, boom, boom, get rid of, get rid of my hole now. He giving them to me for like 18. After I take mine out of that back together, I would sell it for like 23,000. So I'm capping five grand, close to five grand of each one, and I'm cuffing like four ounces out of each one. So that's like $9,000 profit, basically, off of each keep.

So I'm doing it. I'm doing this to every key now, you feel what I'm saying? So now I ain't, I ain't, I ain't even breaking them down, breaking them down in ounces no more for what I did. How long you, so how long is this going on? This going on for like two years, I had a good two, two, three year run. Are you on anybody's radar at this point? Like, I mean, do you think?

I don't know it. I am, but I don't know it. Okay. How did you get on their radar? like somebody got busted or basically yeah this how i got on the radar in 2000 in 2005 i think it was i sold i sold a female two ounces of crack not knowing about a 5k i don't know i'm green i'm green to federal system right i sold her two ounces of crack she called me back and she wanted two more

so I sell them to her only been I sold to her because I consider her like family because we grew up in the same neighborhood and she had already been busted no her

her sons her kids father did oh okay all right so he he called a federal case and he was in a pen I think he had a life sentence if he was

mistaken and she's trying to get them out by working for the DEA exactly right that's third party third party rule 35 oh five they call it 5k so I don't know I don't know they're on to me I sell her this boom boom boom I can't be pushing so now I'm elevating I'm selling keys now I don't she don't come by from me no more I find it like like still that this happened in this like i say this happened 2005 2006 this going on 2009 i'm still doing my thing like i got i got them coming in like i got these bricks coming in 10 a week i'm doing 10 a week now easy i don't want no more than that i tell him man bring me 10 and i'm a dude i'm i'm gonna pay for five you you you leave me five and everything's insured now you know what i'm saying my money up

I'm sitting on 300,000, 400,000 easy now. You know what I'm saying? So whatever they bring me is insured. So these years, these few years going by, I still, back of my mind, like, damn, she ain't never come back and buy for me no more. What the fuck she got going on? You know what I mean? I hollered at my homeboys in my neighborhood, and I tell them the same thing.

Like, man, I sold this chick like four ounces, like two times, two different times. I still don't know you know I still don't pay it no mind like he was like man you know a baby daddy you know he in the fair like yeah I know but shit I say man they can't get me because it's like she was the only one there at the time I made the sale you feel I'm saying yeah well that doesn't mean anything I found out at the hallway so I'm like I'm like what the fuck man you know I still don't pay it no mind man so I'm doing my I'm on their radar though this is the St. People's the police department I'm on their radar I don't know it so this

2009 this happened to 2006 right so the guys I was getting the message I was getting the bricks from they do it they one of them get busted I'm still I'm dealing with the other homie they knew how to find me you feel what I'm saying so one of them get busted and he debriefed on me. So now, now I got, now, I think that's how the fares got on me. Her case was, was, was, was, was, was state police. You know what I'm saying? City police. When the fares got on me, the fares got on me through the Mexicans I was, the first Mexicans I was getting the kilos from. They got knocked off and they mentioned my name. You know what I'm saying? When I got my paperwork, I, I've seen all this here. So now I got the state police, the, the, the city police on me. I got the feds on me now. So now they're all in cahoots with me. So it's like, okay, I still don't know. I still don't know what's going on.

You feel me? So I'm dealing with another set of Mexicans who got them too. You know, like over there, they come from Bradenton. They got like little hubs over there in Bradenton where a lot of Mexicans migrated. You feel I'm saying? So it's like, when the feds got me, they say, man, your name ringing so hard in Bradenton, man. We thought you lived over here.

I never went to Bradenton. Like, I never been over there. I've been over there one or two times and go see a female. That's about it. I never went over to get no, pick no dope up. I never went over there and even talk to them guys or whatever. They always came to me. So it was like, okay, now I see what's going on.

You feel me? But go back to the story like, like, damn. I'm making all this money. I'm still not, I'm still not, I wasn't even worried about the fence. I wouldn't even think about them, but at the same time, I started getting spooked. You know how you get this feeling like? Because it's like everybody in, everybody in my city who was like doing something major was getting swooped up by the feds.

Right. You know what I was like, I was really like the, felt like I was like the last, the last, last one in the city who who had major work but i never got pulled by the police they never harassed me or anything so so so it was like i'm ride through the ghost town i'm right through this town it's like a ghost town right that's how i was feeling to me because at the time now i'm in i got a range rover now i got a e 500 mercedes bins so it's like it ain't too many guys Things are going good. Yeah, so it's like, it ain't too many guys in my city that's riding like that.

If they was, they already got swooped up, you feel I'm saying? Yeah. So now I'm feeling like I'm really feeling like I'm stuck out like a sore thumb because it's like, you come past my yard, it's like, okay, I got a range rubber in the yard. I got a Ben's part of the yard. My girlfriend at times, she got one of the new Infinity trucks, FX35, she got one of them in the yard. I had her old Mercedes. Her old Mercedes, I painted it.

It's like a CLK 320 coup. I painted it black and put some rims on. We got that part of the yard. I got a new money collar part in the yard. New Monte Carlo S.S. partner to the yard. So you ride past my house, man, McCallel. My yard is like a car lot.

You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I'm still spooked. But at the same time, I'm like, man, fuck it. I'm going to keep getting me some money. You know what I'm saying? so so I'm dealing with another another dude another Mexican he slid up on me not knowing his I didn't know his home were already debriefed on me so now I'm already pha's already on me I don't know what's going on but I'm like shit I need some work like because one got busted

I need I need I need to get some work you feel I'm saying I need to get my money up you know you know when you ain't listen man like when you when you getting that type of money and you're not constantly hustling and you live in a lifestyle, like that money can go fast, man. You can see, you can

blow 100,000 in a couple of weeks. Yeah. Like, easily. And you won't even know it. You feel I'm saying? And then at the time, I had a, I had my record label going too. So I had, I had some artists certified.

I had one of the hardest artists in the city named Scrutel. He had one of the hottest albums out, you know what I'm saying, at times. So I'm putting money behind them, trying to get them guys' record deals. You know what I mean? I had a club I was promoting, a strip club I was promoting. You know what I mean? On Saturdays, you know, I mean, I used that club basically to promote the music and the brand. You know, I didn't care about the money that the couple of hours I was making every week.

That wasn't really nothing, you know what I'm saying? But I was doing that to promote these. Like I said, I want to give these guys record deals. Right. So you're hoping to parlay your, like, the drug proceeds into, like, a legitimate venture to try and get out of doing the drug thing? Yeah, that was my plan. That was my next plan. Okay.

I don't fuck selling dope when I got these hot-ass artists. I can get, I can get, get this label off the ground, get it worth a couple few meals, man, shit. The dope game over with it. Right. They ain't got to sell no more dope, you know what I mean? It was crazy like when I got, when they, when they busted me that, when they kicked my door in on the seizures, on the seizure papers, that's what, that was the last thing they wanted. Documents pertaining my record label, you know what I'm saying? that's why I told my artist

I said man look you guys would have stuck with the plan you guys will be millionaires right now because if the fans talking about you you're doing something as far as just music shit you feel me you're on your way they're going to make sure they're going to make sure you don't get that record

they're going to do everything they can and throw a wrenching that situation they don't want to see young young rappers ride around the city in foreign cars and and blowing money and all these other shit, because guess what I'm going to do?

That's going to help. Once you become a millionaire in the music game, you're going to be able to help others become millionaires if you stick to your plan, right? You feel me? Right. So what happened, so this is your, you've got a bunch of stuff going on.

I mean, what, how does this kind of, how do they, is this when they come down on you or? Yeah, no. No, no, this, when they come down, this, this, this what I, like, okay, I'm, I'm in the club one night, and the feds was in that club. Like, they used to come in that club, and I didn't ever notice, you know what I'm saying? So, so, so, so, yeah, they're not wearing T-shirts. No, no, they're hanging out with us, like, I don't, I don't know this, though. so so like like okay i actually stop hustling for a little sec like because i did feel kind of like

a little heat so i fell back for a minute about about six months six months i wasn't doing anything you know what i'm saying so i really just kind of sat back and tried to analyze things okay try to see where the angle's at you know what i'm coming from like yeah all back you get that it's it's that intuition you can just you can feel it it's coming down on you yeah and you think oh you know you step back and pull back i mean that doesn't work but you can you know you start trying to back pedal and shit never works analyze everything so so i tell so actually me and me and me and my rapper we fell out like we basically we basically he had a little argument

about some money so me and him we fell out so I told him man fuck this label y'all can have all this shit you know I'm gonna go get me some more money man fuck this shit and like I said I was on a hiatus for like six seven six seven eight months

I wasn't doing anything I would just focus on the music you know what I mean I told them they can keep the studio I told them y'all keep that club that night that we was promoting together. Y'all keep that, y'all keep all that shit.

You know what I'm saying? Y'all have you. I don't want no more dealing with that shit. So I got the hell on, went home, came up with another plan. Like I had to sit back in the real, still I was still spooked

because I still had that feeling like shit wasn't right. I feel what I'm saying? And then one of my home boys, he called me, he said he wanted to meet up with me. So me and him met up. because we didn't want to talk on the phone. He was like, man,

I just got word from a couple guys, man. You need to chill out. I'm like, what you mean? He's like, man, lead him messaging alone. They're trying to flip you. You know what I'm saying? You're hot right now. I'm like, what?

Where you heard this from? He's like, man, don't worry about that. Just chill the fuck out. You know what I'm saying? And I took heed to it because this is my main man. He ain't going to tell me nothing. He ain't going to tell me nothing wrong. you know what I'm saying but I still I still was naive because it was like

shit I got bills to pay man my money my money getting low I took a hit a couple times you know what I'm saying I ain't mentioned that you know what I mean I took a hit shit wasn't right you know what I mean the shit I bought wasn't right you know I took a few losses but I still I still had a couple of dollars left so so I fell back again and then I I ran into another one of Mexican dudes. I got back on again, but I wasn't moving a lot like I was before. You know what I'm saying?

I wasn't doing $200,000 in a couple days like I was. I would do $30,000 sit down. 30, next couple days later, sit down. You feel what I'm saying? I basically slow rolling, but it was still good money, though, but I was slow rolling. So this round, this round, 2018. 2011 you know i was nitpicking you know what i'm saying but i'm still hanging out of clubs every

night not giving a fuck you know what i'm saying so i i used to coach little league football so i'm at the field one day and i had a guy approached me that i knew from a child as a child he pulled up on me like what's going on like what's up boy ain't seen you know why you've been you know what i'm just i just been shitting bro you're like man i need you that what you mean that boy I need your help but I know you can help me I'm like man I don't know what you're talking about

you know what I'm saying but that man come on man everybody knows what's going on not knowing I ain't thinking I ain't thinking at the time I just know him we childhood friends all and all he was a CI

he coached football too but I didn't know he was a CI so he pulled up I'm like man he'll take my number we'll rap later okay he called me he said man where you at i tell him where i'm at he pulled up he pulled up to my house he comes to my house you know what i'm saying he like man i need a couple zips i'm like what you

talking about some coke i'm like what you been what you was paying for him he said i paying like like a like a thousand lamb when i said you know them shit don't went up shit shit slow out here you know what i'm saying so i pulled i had like six ounces of the coat i showed it to him he's looking at him you know what I'm saying he ain't got the money right now and a funny feeling just went across me like don't nobody come window shop at nobody house man for no dope you feel me

right so he left when he left when he left he was like shit uh I'm gonna hit you back so he hit me back like two days later he said I'm ready man I got I got the money. I said, me, you know they're $1,500 a piece. I told them, I told them 12 at first, but

nine, I told him $1,500 just to see what he going to say. It's like, shit, that's it. Like, yeah, I need $1,500 piece. I want two of them. So I, I took, like, one of the, I took one of the zips and put, I put so much bacon soda in that motherfucker. And each one, you couldn't help but look at it and see what big a soda. But when he came, he looked at him, he said, he said, he said, he say nothing about it. So that was like another, like another you know, any other person that came in cop for me, they'd be

like, man, why all this shit is shaky like this here? He didn't, he didn't dispute. He didn't say anything about it. So I had like a funny feeling again, like, damn, what the fuck he got going on? He gave him the $3,000. It was like a whole bunch

of fives, ones, and tens. Like a big, like it was a big knock. Counted the money, boom, boom, boom. he left he got the shit he left so as soon as he left i go outside for a little minute and my neighbor my neighbor he he a cab driver he he like to sit out in his car where he calls and shit so he called my name like come in for a minute i'm like what's up so i meet him at the gate he said oh man that dude just left your house man he was adding real suspicious when he left your house like how my house is it's like

like I'm close to the corner to where the cross street is like you come to my street you've been a right or left and then there's a canal right there so he was like like when he walked out your door he said uh he

he was just acting real weird and he looked down towards the canal and there was a car sitting down there with the window with the lights off on the street like they could see your house I'm like what? He's like yeah like the car was sitting there a dude when he walked out to the door, he was looking

down towards that way, and he got in the car and went that way, and the car followed behind him. Feel what I'm saying? So I'm spooked again. Like, damn, I hope this motherfucker ain't no goddamn troll, whatever. You know what I'm saying? But then

I still, and then I thought about it. I'm like, man, I'm good with him. He ain't, he ain't nobody. You feel what I'm saying? Okay, he he called, he, listen, he called me back like like a week later he said I need to

holl at you again like what's up I'm gonna talk to you when I get there he comes to my house he said I need some I need some rocks he said I need some joys

that we call them we call them we call rocks we call them Joles I need a couple of Joles and I'm thinking myself like motherfucker you just bought two ounces I know he's like, man, I can't find my key to my safe. He said, that was the excuse.

He said, I can't find a key to my safe, but I just need a couple of rocks to go catch my buddy or whatever. Now, that we call crackheads, you know, buddies, you know what I'm saying? Right. You know, so my nephew, because I had a small studio in the back of my house, you know, since I let them guys go, I had a studio at my house now. So I would record at my house. So my nephew had left his crack with me because he had to,

go do something so i grab he and make a soul to the guy i saw him three of them and he left so i don't hear from no more i'm calling him i called him like like next day like what's going on and he answering the phone so it's like i want to say this like december about december december 6 early it was early december i don't hear from i don't see him or nothing so this come around December 18th I'm going to go Christmas shop and it's right before Christmas

December 19 I go over to the International Mall you know they had you know they got the Gucci store over there and all the other shit over there so I'm going to buy me some new sneakers some Gucci sneakers and a couple you know some some more apparel from over there

so I'm in there before I go in there it's this lady this lady say how you doing today can I read your poem I say what she said can I read your phone so I'm over there I'm over there with two females

I just met we all we all went over there to go shopping so she's like man don't do it she just want to scam me out your money like no I want to hear what she got to say I say man let me let me get my stuff and I see you when I'm done so I'm going I pay for the shoes I get two pairs

sneakers I think I bought a hat in the felt or something so I'm I'm coming out. She got that waiting on me. So she grabbed my palm. She's rubbing on it. She's like, I see something. I'm like, what do you mean?

You see something. She says, she sees an indictment. And listen, she said, I feel you. She said, I feel you in some trouble. I'm like, what kind of trouble? She said, I can't tell you that. But I feel you're going to be in some trouble. Well, her last word was, you're going to be okay.

You're going to be all right, but you, you're in some trouble, but you're going to be all right. You feel what I'm saying? And I was spooked as he said that, like, so, so me and the chicks, we leave, we go eat an oligar, and all, all this shit on my mind, like, like, on my mind, like, I'm thinking about this lady that told me this shit. So we eat, we eat oligar, and they drop me back off, boom, I go home, I call them a little chick, I'm like, man, listen, we're going to stay in.

night, you know, just pass me and hub, we chill, dog, you know, we, I say, man, because I'm thinking maybe somebody going to try to rob me, you feel what I'm saying, some shit like that. But not knowing, when they say troubled, that can mean, like,

anything, but when they say danger, that's different. You know, trouble and danger, like, two different words, you feel I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. You might look at them different, so I'm thinking it's true. I'm thinking maybe, okay, if I go out of the night some dude might try to rob me. You know what I'm Man, because I had a situation.

Ain't nobody try to rob me, but I had niggas plotting on me. You feel what I'm saying? So I called her. She'd come over. We laid it up. We're smoking. We drank it in my studio just fucking off. You know what I'm saying?

So we're doing that all night. We go in my room. We lay that. We just hanging out all night, man. It's on my mind, though. You feel what I'm saying? So I lay down. One of my cousins called me, said, he's supposed to swain through.

Come holl at me before. before he take it in that night, but he never called me. This is my cousin who I got what, as soon as I got back from North Carolina, you know what I'm saying? Man, him was real close. So I go to sleep, man, we fall out, we go to sleep. I wake up that next morning, I turn on the news. I'm watching Bay News 9, you know, Bay News 9.

And all I see is my cousin's picture up there. He just got killed, man. Like, I'm really lost for words. I'm tired of him. I'm like, man, get up. I got to go down here because I know he was at a motel. He was running a gambling spot out of a motel. And it shows that some guys tried to rob him.

He killed one of them, shot the other one, and he got hit. He got hit, too. so he died you know what I'm saying so I ain't I'm just I'm just distraught now like my all my all my all my thing and I got to get down here in this motel see the fuck going on so I tell her she'd get up she getting dressed she in the bathroom actually getting getting dressed so I'm jumping on getting dressed and my phone rang I look at it and it's like a weird number it's like all numbers in letters across the screen.

I say hello, and my phone is echoing so loud. I'm like, that shit ain't seen right. So I hung it up, boom. I get back to getting dressed, and my phone rang again. I say hello. Don't about to say nothing. It echoes. All I hear myself echoing.

So by the time I put it back down, boom, boom, boom. I hear flash bombs going off. police police i look at my window man man listen my yards worn with cops blue jackets i look out my back door i see one one cop hop hop on my gate and he and my dog my i got a pit bull and a rock waller back there man and listen all i see him hop back over the gate because my my pit trying to eat his ass alive so i'm i'm running around scrambling my room like what the fuck I had some coke and my guns.

So I throw everything under the nightstand. I throw the coke and shit under the bed. And by the time I do that, they in my house. I'm in my room. By the time I do this, they don't breach my door. They're in my room, man. And I just, they said, lay down, lay down. I just closed my eyes.

I said to myself, Jesus, God, please let this be a nightmare, a dream, man. and then I woke I opened my eyes again man I see all kinds of guns just pointed at me you know I got I just like this I got my hand like this hill like damn god

you y'all you y'all jic it was like the worst feeling ever man you know what I'm saying like the chick she hiding in the closet she's like she's so goddamn scared you know what I'm saying

I just told her man I just told them I'm man she ain't got to do with this y'all let her go man She don't know what the fuck I was doing. She ain't got nothing to do with this shit. So they let her go and everything, you know what I'm saying? Like, man, that was like worst feeling, man.

Like, like, really, like, because I never been through that shit. Like, like I said, I've been hustling since I was damn there, 15, 16, man. I never been through shit like that. I don't seen it happen, but they never, I ain't, now I got experience it. You feel what I'm saying? so i have a question the i mean the bus or your your cousin getting killed and your bust being on the same day that had nothing to do with the other two separate events yeah but it all happened like he got killed that night and i just i just learned about it that morning when i yeah because

it happened it's right exactly like like like like like really like like like because i'm like damn I just wanted to make sure because it seems like it's connected like that's a real coincidence but he's running a gambling operation and somebody tries to rob him that's totally a totally different thing but yeah that's just okay

it was like he called me that night before he said I'm gonna hit you up because he was just leaving the club I said I'm chilling the night man I'm staying in for night you sure I'm like yeah man I'm staying in because any other time I probably would have went to the motel with him

or we got him or we went to the club you feel I'm saying yeah yeah I'm like I was I was so distraught man like god damn cousin got killed man and then this shit happened like a couple seconds later once I find out about him

so man my mind was just gone man like like that's like the worst feeling dog you know yeah everybody when them people got all of got their military rifles pointed at you got there here and talking about he bet out moving you know they're going to shoot you man you reach for anything man they want to shoot you they want you to read it's like they want you to do something exactly and they're going to be justified man yeah um so what so they they they handcuff you they bring you downtown like was this a DEA or is this FBI or who is it it's all of them like all of them and say people least right and the sheriff

department it was all like i had like basically because the informant guy who i sold to at my house the two ounces of coke he come to find out he was a confidential conformant for the sheriff department so i i had i had a i had a fed case i had a state police case for that crack I sold that woman back in the days in 06 and I had I had this the fucking sheriff department case so it was like all three task force was on me so what they when they get you downtown they try and have a conversation with you or yeah they try to do all that and try to try to make me make me tell who I was getting it from and everything but I like like i'm not gonna do that like right let me just just going just going and book me and i'll see what

see what the fuck going on from there you know what i'm saying did you get did you get bond what like what's your attorney say like sure what it was uh i got a lawyer he got he got me bond because they had me had me had me with a high bond he got me a bond reduction so so i was able to bond out i had a friend friend girl she's a bondsman so she came and got me so what What happened was my case was state at first. So I went on, it went on for like five months. I hired a lawyer, or Frank Lauderb. He's a good state lawyer, but for federal, he ain't shit.

That's a majority of lawyers like that anyway. Yeah. You know, so I hired, I hired him. My case, like I say, my case went on for like five months with the state. And he was like, he was like, man, what's going? going on is the feds and the state is debating about who's going to take your case. He said, most likely, your face is going to go federal because you got a gun and they want your ass for years.

Yeah, like you said, your name had been, hey, come up over and over again. They've been hearing about you for years and years. They already got you buying or selling years earlier. So, yeah, they definitely, they definitely want you. Yeah, he was like, man, just be, just be prepared to get indicted, man, by the federal, by federal, man. And that, that shit, my whole stomach just dropped in my ass when he said that. I'm like, what the fuck? Like, man, shh.

Well, what did they hit you with on the federal? The federal case was. firearm 924C in furtherance of a drug trafficking crime or possessing a firearm by felon basically right and and possessing the because I had like I say they found cocaine and crack in my house this what they said they said we're going to throw the cocaine out you just play out to the crack I say I said shit that's a deal you feel what I'm saying not knowing the crack going to give me way more time than the cocaine right i was going to say so because you you had a gun like that and you've been arrested before yeah he said i was a cook

right so you're looking at 10 years minimum mandatory is 10 years right so you're not getting less than 10 years but you got more than that no yeah because uh the fight the gun the gun the carry five right and the crack the crack carries they gave me six years for the crack basically okay damn so you took a plea for that and you had to turn yourself in yeah man the only the only the guys guys who don't bend the affairs kept telling me they said man look don't play with these people they come with a plea jump on it push kind of show you can fight it from inside the prison you know what I'm saying you can what are you going to do go to go to fucking trial you've already you're already

sold multiple times like they've got you hands down they only need a few people to get on the stand and point at you you're you can't beat that and then you're not going to get that sweet deal you're going to get 20 years 25 years exactly that's why that's why I jump right on it like this is what they're coming with okay when do I sign it's really just it's the best of a shit you know you're trying to pick the best you got nothing but shitty options yeah because because at the end of the day in 11 years is a long ass fucking time too long time that's a long fucking time I just told my mom told my kids my mom I said man I'm just gonna go ahead and take whatever they come with man so I can get the

fuck on man and start just start this process man you know I was going to say at least you did have some you knew it was coming you had some time to kind of prepare yeah like with me they just grabbed me up and everything's gone and I got nothing I can't sell nothing I can't put anything away I can't I can't put anything away I can't I can't put anything away I can't I can't put anything away I can't I was able to keep my property you know what I'm saying they took the money they took the range road they took the beds they took the money they took the jewelry you know what I mean

that's all they really want to come do you know the money the money they recorded they found was way less than what they found right you know how that goes but I mean

it is what it is you know what I mean that's part of That's part of the game. We got to take that lick, you know what I mean? So I just, you know. How much time did you go straight to Coleman? No, I sat in the county jail, you know, until six.

Well, I was out on bond at first because they gave me a signature bond. My mom didn't signature bond, so I was out. So I was able to get my, get my everything together. You know what I'm saying? I never been in no trouble. So the judge granted me that. You know what I'm saying? Of course, they were trying to get me to.

cooperate but no i wasn't been to set nobody up none of that shit man fuck no i ain't i got to go to prison so i you know i can't i am not going to have that on my goddamn shoulders like that you know what i'm saying so i did and got everything together turned myself in and you know colman low my first my first stop i got there in 2013 so i stayed i stayed at coleman for like two years at coleman and then they packed me out, me and a lot of other guys, and sent us to Yazoo, Mississippi. So I went out, I did like another 20, about another 20 months at Yazoo. You know what I mean?

I got out there, that, that, that, that, that, that, that prisoner is really, totally different from Coleman. Yeah. I heard even the lows rough. Man, listen. That's a different, that's prison. Coleman low And that's a

That's a That ain't nothing Compared to that shit out Man I ain't At Coleman Lowe I seen one or two fights I got a Diazoo

I see I see two Three fights a day Fuck If there was a fight At the low Like They'd lock it down

For two or three days You know but when I was in the medium there would be a fight they'd call you know they they lock everybody up and then they the next move they'd open it back route

yeah they know what's going on man then when I left Yazu I went to uh my points drop so they sent me to Pensacola Pensacola camp okay I got a chance to see camp life was back

you know what I said so I did I lasted like 10 months you know what I mean I got caught with the phone cell phone yeah so they sent me back to

Coleman Lowe so when I got I got by the Coleman Lowe like early 18 so I did the rest of my I stayed there four years I did the last four years four years at Colmonds

so you were there when when COVID hit yeah oh it was bad right man I was like that was like the most depressing pressing time

man like I don't like like like they wouldn't let us we couldn't go outside you know what I'm saying it's like we couldn't get fresh air like how could you why would you want motherfuckers if it's a COVID it's COVID shit like why wouldn't you want motherfuckers to go out and get fresh air every day yeah I think they were just using it to try and cut the budget you know to try and lock you up and you know they can keep you locked up all the time they can get to they don't have to fund all those different all the different things they can cut the guard staff they got a bunch of guards to fucking take early retirement yeah less work for them to do feed you in the unit and then they was feeding the feeding was horrible man we had to eat

refugee trays man right peanut i was man listen i were glad to get a hot meal um was Do you remember Red Bull? Yeah. Did he, didn't he go back to, he went back to, um, Coleman, didn't he? I'm not sure. I remember, I remember him. Yeah, I think he went to the camp, though. He might have been the camp.

He, because he was at the low. Then he left, went to a camp. And I heard he, he fucked up at the camp, went to like a medium or, or to another low. Maybe Yazoo. And then I heard he went to Coleman. I assumed he went to the low, but it might have been the camp. Mm-hmm. So when did you get to, then you went to the halfway house?

Yeah. No, actually, like my, I suppose got out of June, June 16th for this year. And I had an incident with, with, remember Eertel? the facility worker had the beard real piece of shit like to just cuss every cuss at you for no reason yeah i think so i'd have to see him but yeah yeah me and him got into it like the motherfucker was patting me that me and him had words before you know what I'm saying because I used to work the compound and shit I was a compound worker so they were shaking our unit down that day and we were on the rec yard.

We were all coming out, the red yard. You know how they patted us down. We come up to the red yard before we go back in the unit, you know what I'm saying? So he made it his duty to come over there and help them out because he knew our unit was out there. And I told, I told, uh, Davis, Lieutenant Davis at the time, I said, Davis, man, I don't want him touching me. He's like, all right, don't worry about it. Go to go down to another officer, go down all the way down because I had to walk past him because Urtale just came and jumped in the line, right?

So I come and pass him. He grabs me by my shoulder and say, man, now I'm going to pat you down. Man, get your motherfuck of my hands off me. You know what I'm saying? Fuck you got going on. He was adamant about searching me. So I'm telling him, man.

Y'all see this man here? What the fuck he got going on? So Thomas, Councilor Thomas was there. He's seen a lot of other guys trying to figure out why the fuck he's so, everybody was trying to figure out why he's so adamant to want to search me.

You feel what I'm saying? yeah so i'm telling him told me told me no don't go to the next man so i leave from buying me steady grabbing and he's trying to search me so uh cordero he's a lieutenant now his spanish guy he's a piece of shit too yeah he was like he's he's like fucking let him search you i'm gonna take you to the shoe and i'm gonna search you so mind you i got 30 days before i go home you know what i'm saying i'm like fuck it man you know what i'm saying so he told me spread my legs and everything he patted me down So the motherfucker, he chops upward, man, like on my testicle, bro. Like, he pat me down and chops up, boom.

It hit me in my fucking nuts. So I turn around, I'm going to fucking be his fucking ass, dog. I'm like, man, y'all see, man, you fucking hit me in my nuts. I'm making a big ass scene about the shit. Man, they does nothing about that. They just say anything, anything. They steady yelling at me. Go to the fucking unit.

I'm going to lock your ass up. man i i want to just go home man like like like i got 30 days left man i just want to go home i don't know smoke but i just got violated you feel i'm saying right so so i walk past him i say you you're a piece of racist piece of fucking shit man he hit a man it's fucking nuts so i go to the unit i get on the phone i call my mom and i tell her to call my lawyer so i'm I'm going to call my lawyer and tell them what the fuck just happened. And I emailed the aide, the assistant warden and told him, look, man, I just got sexually assaulted. Right.

I hit him my nuts, man. Everything, everything's recorded in line. I tell my lawyer what's going on boom, boom. So they called child. One of my homeboys who work facilities, he coming in to the unit, he said, man, look. that what's ass motherfucker urthale say uh man chill the fuck out man you know what I'm like what fucking he's talking about he the fucking he the fucking hit me my fucking nuts he's like man he said tell you whom would he was he was telling me in his word like

tell you whom would he chill the fuck out man fuck that motherfucker man he's fucking faggot any man he hit the man that nuts is a fucking faggot man so I'm in my home other home we walk into the we walk into the child I see him standing in front of standing in front of Charles if he's waiting on me, feel what I'm saying? So I get down there, birthday, he say, oh, he starts yelling at me, like, go fucking take those pants off.

Like I told you before, I'm saying to myself, like, motherfucker, you ain't never, you ain't ever say nothing to me about, because I have my pants altered. You know how they do, you know how they redo the pants, so they sort of slim fit now. So, I hadn't had these pants for them near a year like this here. I had a couple pairs of.

I guess he used that at a excuse to come come yell at me or whatever so I'm telling him man I ain't changing shit fuck you he's like what fuck you said man I said just like man

cracker fuck you man his face got so fucking red man when I said that to him he just started cussing so so he tell me to get against the wall by the uh by the you know the the maintenance workers

where they do that little office right there for the S-I-S and the big doors are? Yeah, yeah, I'm right there. He got me right there with my hands on the wall, pat me down. I'm like, man, don't fucking hit me in my nuts again. Pussy, motherfucker. I'm cussing out of me shit. So we face-to-face now.

Man, I'm ready to just punch his fucking lights out, man. And I see he's cussing so loud and he's got everybody's attention. Like, you know, he's an attention seeker. Like, he all people want to do talk shit. He don't want to, he don't want no smoke. so so uh miss harris working a commissary she she come out the door uh the laundry worker come out the door uh it's a lot of staff just out the door they just watching this stupid

motherfucker cuss at me like this here and i got my fistballed up i'm just saying i just ready just crash it all in man like i'm just like like but i'm in my back of mind like shit i got 30 days left is he is he gonna be worth me knocking him the fuck out you know what i'm saying and go to the pen, you feel me? So I look at Ms. Harris and the other staff, I mean, they're shaking their head, like, don't do it. They see it in me, like,

but they're just shaking the head, like, like, don't do it, please don't do it. So I don't do it, right? Mr. Felt, you know, he's the case manager down there, in A1, A3 for the Unicorn Union. He's standing out there. He's like, man, show the fuck out, man.

He called me over there. He walked me in a cafeteria. So he's like, man, you go get your food, and I'm going to holler at you afterwards. So I'm in line. Motherfucking, he's coming in and get me. He's like, man, come in. They called me out, the AW out there.

This is the new AW, the black guy. I'm going to tell him what happened. He don't want to hear none of that shit. He's like, lock him up. They took me to the shoot. I'm like, what the fuck I did? Disrespect with my staff. I said, man, he assaulted me, sexually assaulted me.

so they take me to the shoe I go I see Sharma the SIS lieutenant I tell him about it he does nothing about it I tell Captain Baker he does nothing about it they don't know nobody

nobody come talking to me about that situation about me and hitting the testicles I say you know what I got a trick so while I'm in the shoe I'm writing down dates time everybody that was that was there when it was seen.

I'm talking about I got this thing detail to the core. Medical come past. I tell them, I explain that what happened. They don't do nothing. Okay, what's your name? I write that name down.

In the shoe, you know, they come through every week with the warden, everybody, you know, just to check on everybody, right? So I put a sign on the door. I was sexually assaulted by a staff member.

I need to talk with somebody. So everybody, the warden read it, the AW read it, captain read it that everybody read that note i put on that door nobody come talk to me i wrote that i wrote that down day time everything so mr noddo the medical lady she comes

she's she's heated i like what the fuck you mad for i'm the one guy hit in the fucking nuts she like you didn't have to put that note on the door she's like i'm gonna come i'm gonna see you're gonna see you so they called me out they take me to the medical. I tell them what happened. They said, but they scones me for a ultrasound. So I'm back in the shoe four weeks. I'll see Nair and doctor. I'm still in pain. Like, you know, if you get hitting your nuts hard enough, you're going to feel

that shit in your abs. You feel me? So I'm like, I'm like, what the, I'm, I'm feeling this pain. I'm got this pain in me. So what they do, they give me two shots, check my points, and back my date up to October instead of June. So I don't go home in June no more. I go home in October and they send me to the medium. So when I get to the medium,

I get over there. I put cop-outs in to medical about seeing about what's going on. They had me scheduled for ultrasound when it's going to happen. So they're scheduled my ultrasound. I get the ultrasound back and shows that I have fluid

that built up on my left testicle. So I still don't get no medical attention. though he said with time it'll go away i'm like man i'm in pain i need i need to see a doctor for real so by the time i they schedule me for a doctor i'm on my way out yeah so this this what i do i get with a guy uh who does law work in there i gave him all the information that i've been document down and he wrote me up a five page affidavit so I can file charges on that guy you know what I'm saying and I got I got

to type up and everything ready to go I got to sign my name on it I made copies of it though I got like four sets of copies five sets of copies so I'm going to sign each one I'm waiting I'm waiting I'm waiting till I get off this home confinement wait till I get on probation because you get you know you get two years to file charges you know what I'm saying so I said I'm going to wait until I get on probation. I'm going to sign one. I'm going to send it to Washington, D.C. to PREA department. The next one, going to go to the prison.

And I'm going to send one to, I forgot that. He gave me an address. He said, send them one to these people to and keep your copy and send your lawyer a copy. So I got a map that how I'm going to do it. So I'm just waiting until I get this ankle monitor off. And now I'm in probation, in custody now. You feel what I'm saying?

So they don't try to be in the BOP custody and do that. That's right. So like I'm, right now I'm scheduled to go to the doctor next month to go get it checked down. I got, I signed up for the free health care for a year through the halfway house. I got that coming. So I'm going to get, I'm going to get this shit checked out, man. You know what I'm saying? And just basically, basically after the after I get out this goddamn custody, man, I'm going to, I'm going to file. charges on that dude man like like really like he he really out of pocket man like

what you say no i was just thinking i mean that's just you know some of the like i always say like some of them guards are just there to get a paycheck and some are there because they just have a power trip you know they're just like sadistic yeah like and he even the guard like he's a facility work and you he does the most on the compound to fuck with inmates like

like I don't like he wouldn't do that that medium or that pin you feel I'm saying you get away with that that low like a lot of them a lot of them guys they get away with that shit at that low like some of them don't

got their ass whoop now I ain't know you probably don't see it what you remember the guy they called the CEO his name was solo oh yeah is he still there no they sent him to just a medium his first week there he got beat up he listen I watched him I I mean he was constantly fucking with inmates yeah just he was just vicious like I watched him really flip a guy like a like a UFC move

like just like through the guy the guy's legs went in the air, slammed him on the ground. I mean it was brutal. Guy didn't do a thing. Didn't do a thing, man. The guy walked by him. He was here. He grabbed him to push him up against the

wall to frisk him like, didn't say like hey man, let me pat you down. Just grabbed him. Guy caught him back like, what the fuck are you doing? Boom. Flipped him in the air slammed him on the ground. I was walking down the hall when I thought. I was just like, holy shit. Yeah, I seen

Hallstead do somebody like that. Here, another one, somebody going to knock him, knock his fucking ass out, man. Yeah, they get punched every once in a while. Somebody slams them and... Well, that's why I remember Walters? Yeah. That's why he was working in his shoe. Somebody

had to knock them out. Yeah. Bird, too. The one bird, the youngster had just started working there. You know, the, the is I you know that they bring it on themselves you know what I'm saying like I don't want to see anybody get hurt but it's like you know what are you doing like you're you're bringing this on yourself you're disrespectful you know like like these guys look these aren't angels that are in here these are the fucking inmates aren't aren't angels but then again if you just treat them with

respect they'll treat you with respect and everything's fine but instead you got to talk to people like they're a dog that's it and they talk to you like a dog now there's a problem not as a problem and I would listen there's the COs I was polite to everybody and I would still have them talk to me like I was a fucking piece of shit

even though I'm yes sir no sir perfectly right and they just go out of their way to try and try and make do something yeah I don't I ain't cool man like I don't dig that shit at all man but to each is on man they'll get what's coming

to them though Hey is carries there? Who? Carrie? Counselor Carey? No. Okay. No, I think he went to the medium. God, he was a scumbag. I think they seemed to the medium. Um, I'm shocked how many people are still there, but. It shipped. They were doing a lot of job changes. Like, some of the CEOs became counselors. Some of them, they sent different spots to be case managers and stuff. Depends on their education. Is Thomas still altering his shirts, making them real tight? Yeah. Looking his eyebrow wearing a little make, that little ruse.

I mean, he's something else. But actually, Thomas was really, he was, he's pretty cool, though. He's pretty fair, you know what I'm saying? Here's the thing, like initially the first couple interactions I had with him, he was a total dick. But then he became, then he was like a, a counselor, and he was my counselor in the, an art app. Yeah, yeah. He was super cool.

Like, he was really cool. If you got into a room and nobody was around, he was cool to you. Yeah. But it was a couple times, you know, the first couple times I had to talk to him, it was just like, fuck, you're a dick. But then, you know, like I said, then, then I got into a room one time sat down and he was just like, it was so helpful. nice just the nicest guy and ever since then he was totally cool but i think dr smith at the time had him she put him caught him in you know got him in line you know they they said her to they said her to the pen man yeah i heard that yeah they said her to the pen she because she

was doing some of the scumbag and shit like guys being them made it through the whole program and now with two weeks ago you you're kicking them out the program like for some shit like man listen when i got when i got the yazoo and i ain't take the drug program but them guys and that drug program was hanging the fuck out

they wasn't doing all that stupid pull-up shit you know what i'm saying they do the program after four o'clock they ain't on cell phones liquor smoking everything in that that damn unit man no she was that wasn't happening there she

she was having guys turn on each other i went to the program twice i did it twice damn well i dropped out both times just before like i did six months one time i think and i did seven months one time i dropped out both times damn so you did too many guys go in that program right man by the time they get out they got gray hair everywhere yeah a lot of stress you ain't supposed to be stressed inside I mean that's

that's like another world inside of prison to be in that unit It's like being inside a cult But listen The unit was quiet It was clean It was that was the best unit to be in Yeah

Um Well so what are you doing now Right Right now I'm focused on getting my music get my music out you know what I'm saying because I made I made a drop I made a couple of albums before I left I never got a chance to put them out you know what I'm saying so I'm working on that I'm working on put my label together so I can uh I got a few guys that's getting out that I want to sign you know like I want I want I want to sign people I want to build my label off of guys who getting out. who want to get their life together and want to do music? Whose heart set on doing music?

You know what I mean? That they don't want to go back to that street life, you know what I'm saying? But I got to show them like, look, okay, when you get out, money, money, money ain't going to be, you got to get your job. Folks selling dope, trying to go back to the street life because I'm not signing new artists to my label

that's in the streets. We can talk about the streets, but we're not going to be any motherfuckers. I'm not going to jeopardize my label, you feel I'm saying? So in the contract, that's what I'm going to have. If you bring anything that jeopardizes

trouble to this label as far as with police beefing with other artists and other things, I'm dropping you from this label, man. It's going to be in the contract. You know what I'm saying? Get your job and work.

and show me that you want to you want to be part of this label. I'm not just going to give you some money, man. I mean, I can, but I don't want to give you money in this contract and then you're going to go to the streets with it. All right. Why dump all your time and money and resources

into getting them something? I mean, how many guys are like that? Like, they'll actually be doing well and they're still fucking selling drugs and getting into gunfights. It's like, that's why you got into music to begin with was to get out of the fucking that life. Exactly. That's my point, you know what I'm saying? So I'm not, I'm not, I really don't want to, I really don't want to put too many artists on my label that I got to, I have to keep my eye on them. If I got to keep my eye on you, I really don't want, I really shouldn't have to be dealing with you. You feel what I'm saying?

Well, you would think getting out, getting out of prison or doing prison time, you would think that while you were locked up, you'd realize that, you know, I don't need that much. Yeah. You know, that that that's what that selling drugs and, you know, being in a gang and that that's what got me in prison. Like, I'm willing to sacrifice to stay out of there at this. So, listen, that's what it taught me was like I, I, I'd rather be able, I'd rather have a lot less and be able to turn the television when I want to turn the TV. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I got a girlfriend.

Like, I got my own. Like, I don't need too much. I'm just taking pleasure in the simple things. Exactly. We take that for granted, man. Yeah. Yeah, I'm able to go cook more. Definitely got to stay out here.

Yeah, I'm working on that, my label. I'm working on a, I got a book coming out. Because I used to cook Lily Football. so we as coaches were father figures to some of the kids who didn't have fathers who were deceased or incarcerated, you know what I'm saying? Or simply just had a father

who just ain't give a fuck by them. So I want to share it light on to that situation to where the book is called a coach is a second father. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, I want to highlight different aspects of parents who need the

basically if your kid ain't ain't listening to you and the father right there and he want to play sports talk to the coach had a coach talk to the kid

you know what I'm saying you'll be amazed how how a lot of kids look up to their coaches you know what I'm saying how much power a lot of coaches have over kids you know what I'm saying And then I'm bringing up the situation to where watch your coaches.

His child molesters is coaches. You know what I'm saying? You talk to your kids about if they feel uncomfortable and your coaches touching the kid and surf sort of a way. You feel what I'm saying? I'm bringing, I'm going to share a lot of, a lot of, I got a lot of subjects I go over in my book. and I'm basically I basically want to you know it's just something it's just something that came on my heart like like during a pandemic you know what I'm saying I thought about it I say shit I can go I see a lot of guys writing books you know what I'm saying and one of my one of my friends like man people don't want to people don't want to read no book if they ain't talking about drugs and I say that's bullshit I'm going to show you it's other things you can come up with.

in these books. You know what I mean? You just got to be creative. You know what I'm saying? And creative, creative and authentic. If you can, if you can give a person a creative,

authentic book, everybody ain't going to like it, but somebody will. You know what I'm saying? So I'm working on that. And I got a couple of movie scripts. I, uh,

TV shows that I wrote. You know, I'm just, I'm just slowly, slowly putting, everything I vision that I wrote and put into a plan, I'm just

slowly, slowly, slowly, slowly walking the steps of it. You know what I'm saying? So I appreciate you letting me come on to your podcast, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Here in my story, you know. Yeah.

No, I appreciate you coming. You know, Jess and I were, you know, what's funny is how this came about. is that you know Jess and I were walking through the mall and saw you and I was like God he looks familiar and she's like we were in the halfway house with him

I was like yeah you know yeah because I you know because keep mind you were in Coleman and then you left and then you came back and I guess I saw you in the halfway house too right but I just wasn't I guess I just didn't place you right away

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