Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - The Untold Story of My “Hot Felon” Mugshot | Jeremy Meeks

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The hot felon, sexy convict, the blue-eyed bandit. I didn't know what I was getting into. Getting 300 letters a day. Random people coming up to visit. I'm still getting movie opportunities. While I was in the feds, I signed the deal with... Then the hate came from the correctional officers. My father caught a life sentence for murder when I was nine months old.

Murdered my mom's best friend. He was coming back to get me and my brother, and we had moved when he got out of jail. He was coming back to... Just to come take us. Oh, okay. And when he got out of jail, he went back to the place where he knew,

We lived and we had moved. He didn't know where we were. And so he went to my mom's best friend knowing that she would know. She wouldn't say? Yeah, she wouldn't say. She wouldn't say. And he murdered her. Not knowing that we had rented the apartment right above.

And so growing up my entire life without my father in my life was, you know, it was what it was. But I had my older brother and my mom and my sisters. I realize young that the DNA is strong because with my father not being in my life, at a very young age, I was just terrorizing everything. And so, like, cops were coming to the house when I'm like eight years old, no. What are you doing?

Numerous thing. Is this like burglaries or just? No, I mean, this is breaking in stuff. It's breaking windows. It's, you know, one time. I don't know. I must have been seven. I end up putting like all these snakes,

these water moccasins in this guy's car. He had sprayed me with some water. And this is probably in like 91, early 90s. He had sprayed me with water and I came back later on and put a bunch of snakes in his car. And I don't know how, but the police came straight to the house. Right. And they sat there and watched me take all these snakes out of his car.

Like, they didn't bring animal controller, nothing. Like, police made me take all the snakes out. I think I was harboring a lot of pain growing up very young and just wanted to let it all out. And I didn't know how else to channel it. And I think it just equated into fights and just getting in a lot of trouble. Were your brothers getting into trouble? It was just you.

No, my brother was getting in a little bit of trouble. I think he just cut from a different cloth. You know, me and my brother are very similar. I don't know. I think I just let it out differently. I just channeled it differently. He channeled it into sports. I mean, he was always good at sports

and mine channeled into, I don't know. Chaos? Yeah, chaos, violence. we moved from Washington State in eighth grade to California. I didn't know anything about gangs. I didn't know anything about the culture of just, just,

crips and bloods and northerners and southerners. And ended up getting to a lot of issues because I just didn't understand. I just didn't come from that. But I learned very fast and ended up having a lot of issues with some bloods and some nards.

and the neighborhood I lived in was Crips, you know, South Side Gangster Crips. Naturally, those are the people that I hung out with. Right. And got locked up and met one of the homies that was from there. And I always think about that moment sitting in my juvenile cell. I'm 15.

I get a kite under the door. It's pretty much breaking down that, you know, down the, you know, the options and, you know, I should highlight the homies when I get out. And so I get out and I immediately go meet the homies. And I already knew a bunch of them from school. But then I met our big, our older homie, J-Rock. And I feel like that's one of the moments that changed my life forever because I never had a father. or really any male father figure in my life.

And Jayrock had just got out of prison from doing eight years. It's funny because I've talked to guys, a lot of those locked out with that, well, and here on the show where they're always like, why? Like, what is the allure to joining, you know, a gang? And I had a guy, this was in prison. And he said exactly that. He said, he said, you're in a neighborhood where you're,

being persecuted by typically, he said, the other gang, because they know the neighborhood, he said, you're typically have your mom or your grandmother's raising you. You don't have a father. He said, and believe it or not, he said, the gang becomes your family. And he said, even though at the time you don't know it, you, the reason you're misbehaving and you have no real restraints on you is because you don't have a father or real kind of a family unit. And he said, and the gang actually gives you that. And so it's security. It's you have someone to look up to.

You have people to look out for you. He said, you don't have that in your home. Like he explained it to me in a way where prior to that when I talked to this guy, prior to that, I'd always just thought like, why would you do that? Like, well, that's just stupid. But then he explained it and I was like, well, now it makes sense. It's so real. Like, I, from being in my neighborhood, I have so many moms now.

I have so many aunties. I have so many grandmas. I have so many people that took care of me and made sure I had a roof over my head and clothes and food. When you come from a broken home, you definitely search for family, you know. And...

I think is you probably don't even know you're searching for it. You know what I'm saying? You don't... There's just something missing. Yeah, it is very subconscious for sure. I would admit that. But then again, I think you're also looking for like-minded people.

I think you're also searching for, you know, for me, let me just speak for myself. I needed an outlet for all this pain that I was in. And this pain that I was in, I wanted other people to feel it. And there was no better outlet for me than to be in the streets, gang-banging and fighting and doing everything that comes with that. What is your role? or does this guy say, hey, here's how we make money, you know,

start. No, so the reason why I would even say that this meeting was so life-changing is because he was very honest. Jay Rock was just, you know, instead of just, you want to be from the hood, let's put him on. No, he really took me to the side and talked to me and was like asking why, you know, because it was a life-changing moment and it was a decision that if I made this, could alter the rest of my life, and it did. And so we talked, and he told me, man, think about it.

Like, I'll see you in the next day or two. Just leaving me with that, me going home and really thinking about that was, it was a big decision because I know me and like, when I jump head first into something, it's... You're all in. Yeah, it's all and nothing, you know. And so things just snowballed. you know

well i mean so what are you are you selling drugs are you i really didn't care about the money aspect at a young age you know i am i was more about the violence and you know um i just wanted bullets and guns and you know and then i could just do my thing you have certain homies that do dirt and you have certain homies that's known for getting money and you have I had certain homies that's known for messing with broads, and you have some homies that's dancing. It wasn't until I got older until I'm like, oh, I need to start getting some money.

You know, but I was just in and out. I was just in and out of juvenile hall. And I also knew that I was young, you know, 16. I can do a whole bunch of stuff and not get charged, and not really, I'm just a juvenile. Yeah, I got shot five times. Fuck, for what? With the 40 caliber.

Just on some gang stuff. You know, it happens. Yeah, same thing. Same thing with being a mortgage broker. I know. Yeah. Mortgage brokers, we're always shooting each other. Yeah.

We made, I mean, were you at a drug deal that went bad? Somebody tried to rob you? No, you got a jack-in-the-box, eating a fucking double cheeseburger. And just somebody just came up and had a beef with the gang. Yeah, I was like 17. We had been all over the Bay Area. And we go to the jack-in-the-box.

It's probably 12 o'clock at night. We get our food, we're eating in the outside area, me and a bunch of friends. And I'm eating, and all I hear is, what is you looking at? And so I look up, and it's my homie Jake, and I see, like, this old school suburban, and the suburban, like, backs up,

and you just see this little Hispanic face in the back seat. And he's like, what did you say? And he's like, well, so, you got a problem, my homie, Jake. Like, you got a problem. Bobbin, get the fuck out the car. Like, what is you looking at all crazy? And this, this little Mexicans just starts smiling.

And he jumps out, all you see is this little face. He jumps out the back seat and he's probably, he's not even five foot with this big ass 40 cow. And he's like, what did you say? He's like, homie, where are you from? And he throws up XIV. And he busts off three shots into the ground and like everyone in the parking lot scatters.

And I'm just standing there and he looks at me. Mind you, I'm wearing Dickie's, Chuck's Penelton. At first he pointed it straight out my face, which he could have just smoked me. But then he pointed down at my feet, and I think he was trying to scare me. But he just started popping shots. And the first shot hit the ground,

ricocheted, and hit my leg, which made me jump up, and then he just kept shooting. And every shot jumped up a little bit higher. And so it hit me in my foot, and it hit me in my leg, and it hit me above my knee, and hit me in my hip, and he just started tagging me.

You weren't even the person who'd said anything. No, but who cares? We're all kids. Everyone's fucking shooting each other. Once he started hitting me, like, once it was like, I jump over, I run through like a little eating area and jump over this little, like, maybe two foot, three foot wall that's separating the chairs from the drive-thru.

I jump over that, run into the front yard, And I'm still here in shooting. He's just busting. Boop, boop, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo, bo. Mind you, the guns that we had were in the car. It's on the other side of where he was at. And so we can't even get to him. And so I don't know if all my people are shot or what,

but once the shooting stops, then I come back around. And as soon as I come back around, I had gold ones, tops and bottom of my gold teeth. And they were, like, laying in the drive-through. they had fell out of my pocket and they drove they ran them over

like my folks Jake got hit in the face with a ricochade it bounced off the ground and hit him in his lip and like a big slug was melted outside of his lip

and when he pulled it out you could see his tooth luckily it didn't knock his tooth out but there's a hole yeah there was in his lip. Yeah, it healed now.

I get hit. And then three days later is our hood day from my neighborhood. And so we're playing basketball and we're barbecue in and like, haven't you been shot? Aren't you in the hospital? No, I'm on the run.

And so I never went to the hospital because any time you're shot or stabbed, they have to call the police. And so it seems like this would be an opportune time to go ahead and be okay with that. Like, I mean, you're, you're, you're worried. It didn't hit any organs?

I mean, no, it was all hips and legs. And so my homie's mom, my homie ripped, his mom was an RN, a registered nurse, and so she took care of me and cleaned me up and gave me antibiotics and pain killers and muscle relaxers, and she made sure I was good. Maybe 10 days later, I get caught by the Brown Street, northerners, who we had been at war with.

And they caught me walking. and fuck they fucking destroyed me with baseball bats damn they beat the shit out of me to the point where and kudos

I took my hat y'all got me it was rough though because they just like beat in my back because at first I'm fighting and I'm doing what I can but once you start hearing them pinks and you feel it and you're like and shit I could do about this

And so you kind of just got to take it for what it is. And so once I had curled up and fetled up because I'm catching two bats from different angles, they beat my back until I like, I pissed blood for probably 10 days because my kidneys were so fucked up. And I'm talking like pissing out thick, clotted blood that fucking burns

because it's so thick and it's like popping all over the back of the toilet. Oh, that shit was rough. And that's probably the one that I should have went to the hospital for. To be honest, and I didn't. It put me down for probably a week. And then I was in juvenile hall, maybe, maybe a week after that. On my 18th birthday, they came and got me and told me.

12 o'clock. Who? County. Oh, okay. Yeah. Or what? Because I'm now going to county jail. Now I'm an adult.

And so like I just did a lot of time in juvenile hall. Tons of stuff. You know. Or it's up to like 22 or something. Like you stay in juvie. I think 21 or 22. Well, yeah. The laws have changed now.

In California, it's 25. Oh. And so if you, if you hold a juvenile case, they can keep you up to 25. but this is in the early 2000s. And so they came and got me and I'm in San Quentin. Well, really, I was in county jail for maybe three weeks. How much time did you have? They gave me three with half.

So all together, I've done like almost 11 years, but it was all broken up. Well, what were you doing time for at that time? It was robberies. that was dropped down to like grand thefts of persons. Okay. Okay. And so, yeah, there was give, really I think what actually sent me to prison

was my gang affiliation, to be honest. I'm in county jail, and we are going to war with numerous Hispanic gangs. and I meet this white dude who is in the tear. He was fighting a life sentence. He had tattoos all over his face. He was a Nazi lowrider.

He was having some issues with some guys and ran down on someone with this big knife and needed somewhere to store it and he slid it under my door, panicked. I held it and he came and brought me some And we became like, we built like this little rapport. It was like a weird friendship, like a crib, a little black crip with this Nazi lowrider with swastikas. And anyways, we, they gave him life.

And my first bus ride to San Quentin, he was on the bus. And so we go through R&R. And this is my first time going through R&R where I'm just in reception. shouldn't getting processed. And so after you get processed, they have like this little yard that you go on, where like the main line yard, people that are already doing time in that prison can see you through the fence and they all come up and talk to you. And so I see him and like we see each other and he like calls me over and we meet kind of in the

middle and everyone's kind of looking to see what's about to happen. And he was just expressing that I was a good little youngster and to keep my head up and to be careful. And he knows I had never been in prison. Right. But obviously no one knows what the hell we're talking about. And so we shook hands and he gave me like this little half hug because there was going to send him to see you in it.

And I was going to end up going to West Block. Is that helping you or hurting you? It didn't do anything for me. Okay. they ended up stabbing him, which I felt bad for. But I honestly don't know if it was because of us meeting up in the middle and having that conversation or the half hug or I don't know. It might have been his jacket. It might have been his background.

Who knows? I just remember walking in holding all of my beddings and belongings. And when you walk into West Block, there's five. tiers and each tier has a hundred cells. And so just imagine, just thinking about it, hasn't it? I see Shawshank Redemption, you know, the multiple tiers.

Yeah. And it was built back in what the? It was built in 1856. Oh, my God. And so even in... In dungeon. Even in R&R, there's pictures of people being released from San Quentin where they're giving you a horse, a rifle,

in the back of gold. that's how old it is oh you're gonna get none of that now and you're giving you what a bus ticket 60 bucks and so I remember walking in

there's like balls of fire people lighting fired and when I first went there they had Broadway and so they had bunks out on the tier which was very illegal. The feds ended up busting them for it.

That's a another story. This is for overcrowding. Yeah. And so there's like people out on the tears, sleeping on bunks and gambling and shooting dice and doing tattoos. And this is back when they still had tobacco and everyone's smoking.

There's people climbing up to tears. Like I'd never seen nothing like it in my life. There's fishing lines everywhere. People tying lines again. with weights and shooting it from the first tier up to the fourth asking for assistance. Can I get assistance from 347 up to and then boom? They'll take the line and shoot it down and then he'll shoot it up and he'll shoot it over. And it's like lines shooting everywhere and gun, like.

It's a jungle, right? It was, it was like nothing I had ever experienced. And as soon as you get there, you have everyone coming up at the sale. breathe from. And like me 18, I think I need to like, a point. Okay. I think I need to like go into this super aggressive. This is my mind state. You know, in San Quentin. San Quentin is ran by the Coomys 415. It's a, it's a prison gang within the

California prison system. Um, Coomie, uh, It's Swahili for 10. 4 plus 1 plus 5 is 10. And so it's a massive, massive prison gang. This is a black prison game. Yeah, okay. That doesn't get along with cribs. And so I get to San Quentin.

And every single night they do a shutdown. The inmates do. And so it's like, West Block, West Bank. It is now 1030. We ask for your cooperation and participation in shutting tonight's program down. We ask that if you do not have matters that are of the utmost importance,

we ask that you sit on them to tomorrow. Front bar, pay respect to the back bar. Back bar gives respect to the front bar. To all my African brothers, I jamal un-sikun-si-cun. And then all the blacks, thou hundreds and hundreds of blacks, you just roar, you jam on secou.

To all the Mexicans, Buenos Noges, then all the Mexicans. when are all snow chas into all woods and all others good night and then it's pitch quiet and then no one can say anything all night

and if you do the prison gangs are going to take care of you right you know what I'm saying and so I end up getting into it with the Coomies because the Bay Area slang

they say blood a lot and I'm a Crip And so a lot of them don't do it out of disrespect. They just, that's how they speak. Are they calling you a blood? Well, they just say, blood, what's up, blood? I know, they don't mean. No, you know what I'm saying?

But in my mind, I'm 18, no one's going to call me a blood. I'm very immature. I'm very immature and I'm hard-headed. And, are you, can I ask you a quick word? Are you scared during this time when you walk in there? Of course. I think every, it sounds like a fucking, like, fucking, it's like, Like it's a terror, you know, like it's an absolute junk.

Like, I'd be terrified walking. Because these guys are clearly running the establishment. Like the guards are in their, in their office. A lot of the guards are part of Kumi too. Oh, so they make sure they got the knives. They got the guns. They got the drugs. They got telephones.

Because it's all the Bay Area thing. It's like they have uncles and cousins and they're all from the Bay Area. Yeah. So you get into it. Yeah. Because of the, they keep saying, what's the blood? Well, it was just this. It was.

that it was a bunch of issues and well it doesn't seem like the that doesn't seem like the uh the gang or in general just to be some be the association to be getting into it with like well also we're like go bad not when there's very few of us and hundreds of them you know and so again like a lot of The issues that I had didn't even have to be what it was, you know, to be honest. I realized now that I made life, now would I think about it when I think life is what you make it? Yeah, yeah.

I realized I made it a lot harder than it should have ever been. But, yeah, I had a lot of issues, a lot of fights, a lot of self-fights, a lot of stabbing. How long does this first bid last? Three years. And so my first mainline prison was Solidad. Sorry, my inside's all right. I'm thinking about all this. You know, because you don't,

you haven't really, you don't really talk about this. Um, yeah. So my very first cell that I walked into in Solidad is fucking Danny Trejo's old cell. Because it has that huge fucking drawing on the wall that's still there. He was, He knew Charles Manson. That was my next-door neighbor. Charles Manson was my next-door neighbor.

That's a whole other. Same, bro. Yeah, and old Corcoran. I did a shoe term, an old corkron, and he was my next-door neighbor. Yeah. Yeah. He was tiny little bit of that, right?

Yeah, very racist. Yeah. I mean, why he was. First person I've ever seen that was getting, like, duffel bag, army-sized. duffel bags of mail Monday through Friday. Yeah, but, you know, did some years in prison, a lot of riots. What are you doing in a riot?

Like, I mean, if it's not about what you're doing. So if you're not, you're not in the riot. Oh, for sure. It's half. Or do you guys go to the yard knowing, hey, we have an issue with these guys. And so sometimes it does. Or is it just these guys, this popping off with this. These two groups here are having an issue,

and you're just standing back, like, with your... So I've been in six mass riots between blacks and whites, blacks and Hispanics, really blacks and southerners. Yeah, one time we were in... I was in Solidad, and I didn't know that my older sister had come to visit me.

And before they could call my name of the PA system, we get into a riot with the Southerners. They locked the whole prison down for like, I don't know, 10 hours. So in California, I don't know how it is out here. But in California, they have warnings,

like no warning shots painted everywhere. And so if they see anyone with a knife that can shoot you with a mini 14 tumbler around. Is that lethal? Is that lethal? It can be. No, it's a tumbler. You can get shot in your shoulder

and it comes out your knee. Oh, okay. It's like it'll, it'll, it tumbles. Yeah, you know, there's a lot of people in California missing legs and missing arms from the gun tower. We get into a riot and we kind of knew it was coming within 30 minutes, not ahead of time. But my sister was in the visiting room. And they locked her in for like eight hours. And every time the yard would lay down, because,

are shooting the block gun 40 millimeters. What are you doing trying to stay? Just stay out of the way? And so it's very, I can never be one of those types. It's like, I ain't scared of shit. It's like, no. Yeah. That shit's scary.

It's like a domino effect. It's like everyone has a knife and everyone. And mind you, after Solidad, it was the only level three that I've been to. And so after that, I was all level four, which is usually where all the lifers are. Right. Just because of my points had kicked up. Is it because you're locked down most of the time in those or no? Or is there a lot of yard times?

No, you still got a lot of yard time. Okay. You know, it definitely not as much as a lower level. It's just a lot more serious. You know, it's like especially when you have a date and a lot of people around, you don't have dates. So you said there's a riot and they locked it down for 10 hours. It's funny because I was a medium secure. President Coleman.

And there would be, whatever, I don't know if there was a full-blown riot, but let's say it was a riot or a couple of gangs go at each other. But it's not really, this doesn't go up for hours. This is 10 minutes, five minutes, still they break it apart. But of course, they call recall. And it was funny because that would happen at, whatever, one in the afternoon. And dinner, then it comes dinner time. You know, they do, what, a 4 o'clock count, and then it's dinner. And they let everybody out.

Like there are guys stabbing each other in, you know, in the yard four hours ago, five hours ago. They let you right back out. And then that night, you know, everything's not open. You know, you go back to, you either go to the yard or back to the units because it was a controlled movement, a compound. But then the same thing would happen when I went to the low. You'd be locked up for four days because in the low it was such a big deal. It was like, what's happening? Like, that's it.

But at the medium, they were so kind of used to it. It's like, we're not going to be doing bag lunches. We're not going to have these guys locked up for four days. Lock that. Go to the, you know, go to main line, turn around, come back, go to the unit. Like, so I'm wondering, you're saying they were locked down for, for 10 hours. Like, they're so used to this happening. Well, no, I'm saying they locked the family members that were in the visiting room.

She was locked up for eight hours. She was locked in the visiting room for eight. We were on the yard for eight hours. Okay. Because. Do they lock after that? Do they lock the whole comment? pound down for weeks or a day?

Yeah, well, you got to understand in California. So on that one, we were locked down. Okay, so they locked her in there for eight hours. Boom, she doesn't know what happened. She then finds out that two weeks later, we're getting off lockdown. But while we were on lockdown, a white crypt at the yard. I want to say his name. I should.

What? From Riverside, I won't even say the neighborhood. It's all good. And I value it there were white crypts. No, for sure. No, there's white crips. But a lot of times, so what happens in, I can only speak for California prisons, when certain people hit the yard, you know, we got Mexican crips, we got white crips,

we got all kind of different. And a lot of times, it will start a war. And so now we've got to figure out who you are. Who's your homies? Are you reputable? Are you worth going to war for? Are you solid? Right.

You know. And he was very solid. And so everyone knows when we get out, the Arians, it's against their bylaws or structure to allow any white to walk the yard that that's not up under their umbrella. And so I'm not knowing that getting off lockdown, My sister's in the visiting room again, and I still don't even know she came the first time. And we got into another riot.

Whites against Crips really was blacks, but the Crips led it because it was involving us. But a lot of times in California, when there's riots, there's mass riots, they'll flip the yard. And I think that's one of the good things about California is that because of the way that the gang structures are and the politics, that once shit goes bad, they'll bring in buses and they'll just take everyone out and flip in a whole new, you know. They take all those people,

they send them to different, they break up everything. They send them out of different prisons, bring other people from... Yeah, they'll leave like a small core usually. So it all depends, you know. To be honest, the correctional officers in California

are the ones who manipulate all of the violence. They get hazard pay anytime an alarm goes off. And so they make sure that the alarms are staying off or stay going off, you know, in a controlled way, you know. But I'm very grateful for it. You know, I grew up in prison. You know, I walked in a boy and, you know, all of my etiquette, all of my respect, all of my

everything that I learned how to conduct myself as a man. A lot of that came from prison and people that I met in prison. It really taught me how to conduct myself and how to have morals and how to lead with my compass and, you know, my word is everything and, you know, a solid handshake and all the stuff that I wasn't taught from my father. But, you know, I learned either from my older homie or in prison, walk in the yard with older homies. So being polite and respectful, you realize goes a long way. Yeah, but that's prison.

Yeah. You know, it's all about respect. You don't respect one person and see what happens. So when you get out that, that time, you go right back to the neighborhood? I was getting out and going right back. You know, I'm thinking about it. I wasn't even, like, I was just all gathered. That's no break.

Right. You know. No community college for you. No. I don't get it. No. No. They learn a trade now, not interested.

Nope. I... You're all in. Yeah, it hit me. So, prisoners run everything when it comes to prison. The only thing that we do not do, which you know this, is turn keys. Right. Especially in California.

You know, we do paperwork. We do the kitchen. We do the bed moves, we do the transfers, we do inmates do every single thing except lock doors. And work in the towers. And so, you know, there was times where I needed to come back just because I was the only one getting released. And they needed to get me to a certain prison, you know, on a certain yard, in a certain building, to a certain cell, to do a certain thing. And so, you know, there was times where I had to go back, and my homies would pick me up and we'd go to dinner.

And, you know, they're like, damn, you're home. And I'm like, yeah, but I got to go back. They're like, what do you mean? And I'm like, well, I got the kite that I need to go back. And they just didn't understand how. And you have to go back to prison for what? So. Yeah, just certain little thing, you know.

Okay. You know, they needed to get me somewhere and they were able to give. gave me to where I needed to be. But it was just all part of that life. At Coleman, like if you wanted to, you know, get move from one cell to another cell or go from one unit to another unit, you didn't really necessarily go to the unit manager or your counselor. You would go to their, shoot, I want to say assistant, but whatever. It was the inmate, their inmate, you know, it's not a liaison. It's like a fuck.

It's like their secretary, Austin. You go to that guy. So it's so much. So the feds is totally different than state prison. In a sense of the feds are run by their kind of correctional officers. They're only allowed to give up as much power as possible in the feds. Not in California, not in the state prison. In the state prison, every single thing is ran.

by the inmates. Like, well, I was going to say my buddy, well, that's what I'm saying. My buddy Pete, when I say assistant, my, that's my, my buddy Pete. Yeah. You would go into the unit and they would get three new guys and his counselor would say, find some places for these guys to go. Yeah. And he'd go walk through the unit and he'd come back.

He'd say, yeah, you know, 207 is there's a bottom bunk. This guy needs a top bunk. We can put him top. And he'd write it all down. And then the guy typing it in the computer. Like, yeah, no, he'd be moved. You went to Pete. You didn't go to the counselor.

Yeah. So I didn't even have. after it was already established on what was what. And so like all I had to do was re-violate. Right. And then I kind of already knew what was, you know. And so I was in and out for a while. And a funny story.

So I used to tattoo in prison. And for like the last year, I was tattooing all bank robbers. And I would give them free tattoos for them to, break down, bring your paperwork also, but then break down how to rob a bank. Right. As I'm tattooing you. And so they're breaking down the registers or breaking down cash cows.

They're breaking down jumping the counter versus slipping a note versus this versus that. They're bringing out their paperwork. They're showing me all these unrecovered amounts. You're working out of federal sense. You know, and so, yeah, in my mind, in my mind, I have it said that I'm going to rob a Right. And so I get out of prison and I hit some different states and I'm running from here to there and I get extradited from Washington State. And the U.S. Marshals come fly me back. Well, wait, wait a minute, bro. So I get arrested. I get arrested in Spokane, Washington. For what? I don't fucking know. I think it was a.

they thought I was stealing or for one when they chased me I had a gun a bunch of counterfeit money and some other things okay and so first let's go back to the bank robbery you get out of bank robbery oh no no no so this is all part of the story okay and so

either way I'm in Spokane Washington they chase me I run the police I run, I'm throwing a whole bunch of stuff they catch me they extradite me California comes and gets me because I'm on parole

and this is the now I'm gonna this is the time I'm gonna rob a bank when I get out okay and so what did you throw you said you threw you had counterfeit yeah I had a bunch of counterfeit money some guns where the counterfeit money come up

I was a guy I was doing a different thing Okay. I mean, are you counterfeiting the money? There's no stash elementations. This is weird. Yes, yeah. We were.

Well, at first, I was getting it. And then the guy taught me how to do it with the purple power and scrubbing and taking all the thing. And we were using real money and then printing over it. Yeah. So you got the good paper. It's a real money. Real money, yeah.

And so we would just use this stuff called Purple Power, the degrecer. And it just takes all of the ink off of the actual bill. Right. And then we would send people like a whole sclue of females to all. all these fast food places and buy bullshit and round up a whole bunch of it. It was just whatever. And so I get extradited and my reception obviously is San Quentin, but now that I'm coming from Washington State, I now have to go to Tracy State Prison DVI as a layover while in... This is because you're being moved. They're trying to get you there.

Yeah. I'm in transit. I'm in transit. It's California. The idea of you. Yeah. And so really from Tracy to San Quentin, it's probably an hour and a half drive. Okay.

I mean, I was only supposed to be there for maybe three days. But they kept me there for two weeks. And while I was at Tracy, mind you, I knew I wasn't going to have a long sentence. Okay. You know, I know I'm getting out in probably six, seven months. And so I'm like, damn, this is not like I'm hitting a bank. But this is when I met my wife in prison. She was my nurse. She passed out my medication. Well, now ex-wife. Right. But, yeah, I had met my ex-wife in prison. I mean, she saved my life. Because I now didn't have to rob a bank.

Right. And so how does that meeting go? Like you go into the, are you in pill line? No, I saw her in pill line, but, and funny enough that she is actually how I found out about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, about the podcast. Yes, that's right. Well, we've had a few guys that have kind of, you know, hooked up. obviously with the female guards.

But we have the one guy who kind of like this. He actually was flirting with the female guard. And she was, he was getting out. And she was going to do something completely. Like she's like, I can't do this anymore. She had been going to a school to be a dental technician or something. And she was going to go do that because she just had been doing this for a couple years. She was like, this is not for me.

And so they had been semi-flirting. And he says, they're freaking. And I could get fucked up. up for this. He's like first even suggesting this. He said to her, he's like, well, I'll be getting out in like a month. He's like, would you be interested in me contacting you? And right then, that's it. You could be it. You could get fucked up. She could be like, oh, we're done. Um, or she could have written you up right then. And he, she went, hmm, she saw it about it. And she was like, I'm going to give you my Facebook name. You know, you can look me up. Here's where I look.

And told him, you know, her Facebook or whatever it was. And she's like, it's this whatever first 63 or something, you know, and he was like, okay. He was like, man, let's say, I'm saying it with my head over and over and over and over again. And then when he got out, he actually hooked her, they got married. They were married for like, fucking seven or eight years. It's like, they got a couple of kids. They started a business. But it happens every day.

You don't understand, like, these females are regular people. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, all the drugs that were, like, you know, we were knocking down some of the chicks in medical, some of the free staff, some of the kids. teachers. We were having them. They were bringing us lighters. They're bringing us weeds. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, and so. But a lot of them don't end up. That relationship

doesn't, I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it's not typical that it, it. The longevity. Yeah. It's, it ends up being like, no, no, it, it's a real thing. Like, these people get married. They have children. They go on. You know, whether or not they get divorced five or 10 years later or not, you know, is irrelevant. The fact is, it wasn't just a, she's a, she's a prison jailo. Yeah. But on the street, I wouldn't have touched her. Yeah. No, no. She was, this was a real thing. Yeah, and that's how I was with my ex-wife, you know, we had communicated because what I used to do when I got to prison, mind you, I had got shot when I was 16. Right. But whenever I went to prison, I went and talked to medical, and I would say, hey, you know, recently I was shot and I need to get a lower bunk, lower tier chrono, right? You know, that way, it's already on file that I'm bottom bunk.

I'm not getting sent up to the third tier. I'm not getting sent up to the fifth tier. I'm not going up to the nosebleeds because I got a chrono. And so I went, I saw her sitting there. Are the bullets still in you? I have one still in me. Okay, that's plain. The holes in one bullet.

Yeah, that covers it. And so, you know, that was how I used to go in and get my chronos. You know, I used to go in there and say that. And so I went up to her and talked to her and was like, hey, you know, blah, blah, blah. I ran my little spiel. She went and checked on it. And then, you know, we saw each other and passing a couple times after that. But they ended up transferring me.

they came and transpacked me and had me load up all my stuff because I was chipping out in the morning to go to San Quentin. And so I get to San Quentin and mind you, all of the mail in San Quentin is two months is 30 days behind. And so it's all a month late. And so maybe two months in I get a letter and it just says Melissa Ford. And so I don't know who it is. And it's like, I read it. And it's like, hey, I don't know if you remember me. You know, but if you have a girl, then I mean no disrespect.

And we just started communicating. I was in San Quentin for probably three months and then got shipped to New Folsom State Prison, which was a war zone. It was gladiator. And I'm very grateful that I have. even made it out of there that time. Yeah, she came in and she came and picked. Well, really, she was like, what are you doing when you get out?

Does she visit you? No. I was going to say, because that's, that's kind of dangerous for her job. Yeah, no. She actually resigned from that job before we really even started. I didn't know that she had resigned right after I had left. Yeah, she came and picked me up from New Folsom, and we got a place together. Because my parole was in Fairfield, California.

I was in Salano County, and so we got a place together in Solano, but then probably a month in, I went back to prison for like another eight months. Is this a violation? Yeah, it was a violation. What's the violation for? I don't remember That's not good You had so many violations You don't remember

That's No like I was getting crazy violations Like one of my violations I shouldn't bring up all these stories One of my violations Is a tempted murder And it was just a violation They couldn't get me on the charge

And so they violated me with A time of murder and a stabbing in And a whole bunch of shit Never mind. To be honest, I think that time, I got a DUI right before New Year's, and I didn't tell my parole officer because when we got arrested,

I was so honest and just respectful that the lady cop, mind you, my ex was very intoxicated. It was like, let my husband go, you can have the car. We had like a car on 26-inch Rams, and the son of the law. She's like, take this.

She's like, ma'am, you need the backup, or you're going to go to jail with them. Right. And so, yeah, they took me, and she was like, listen, you've been so respectful that I'm going to make sure you get out tonight. And I was like, well, I'm on parole, so I'm going to have a parole hold. Right. I was like, but I appreciate you.

She's like, no. And so I went to jail and maybe four hours later, I went to Santa Rita in the Bay Area. And it was rough because it was like people in there kicking dog food and like really going through it like withdrawals. And like I got into a fight with this guy who was beating up another guy that was going through withdrawals. And it's like, dude, he's going through withdrawals. You're over here kicking him. They called me maybe four hours later.

And when I walked out of that county jail, that police officer was sitting all over at the end. And she rolled down the window and she's like, I told you, I'll get you out. I was like, damn. But I didn't say nothing to my parole officer. You know, you got to report that kind of shit within 24 hours or something like that. Is really, do you think it wasn't going to? I didn't care because at that time, I knew I only had maybe two more months left on my parole before I was discharged in that number. Right.

I had maxed out. I had given them, I had given them almost five years on a three, your parole. Right. Because they can extend you. Well, you keep getting violated. Well, no, but still, you're still only supposed to max out. That's the three years. At the three years. But in California, they have an option to extend your parole. And so I knew I didn't have that much time. And so I fucking, I don't say nothing. But then two days after New Year's, my pro-office called me and was like, hey, I need you to come in by 12 o'clock. And I already knew what that was.

Right. And so I go get my balloons and I crush up a whole bunch of wight and I roll up a little mini lighter and a whole bunch of papers. And I probably had an ounce and a half of that I crushed into the size of a lighter. And I hooped it and I hoop the lighter and the papers and all the shit because I already know I'm going down. And so I walked into my parole office, just knowing what was going to happen. As soon as I walk in, like nine pro officers come out from the back, like, let's not make this hard. And I'm like, go ahead, do your thing. You did do the whole, what's happening?

Yeah, no, because I already know I didn't report. You're going to play the. Yeah. You still got to act, no? I don't. No, I'm not even going to waste them. It's whatever. It was really a blessing, though, because.

I saw a bunch of people in there that I hadn't seen in years. People that I knew that I might not ever see again. Right. People that had fought crazy cases, you know, they were sentenced to 186 years, four life sentences, double murders, and I was able to give them free will. You know what I'm saying?

And they hadn't smoked in years. So I have a question. Your wife at the time is a nurse. I'm assuming she resigns and goes and gets another job as a nurse. Yep. She's writing a guy that's in prison, that's a gang member that gets out, moves him in to an apartment and starts having a relationship. And he's still, I'm assuming, an active gang member.

What's she thinking? So, I mean, now in your current situation, you have to be able to look back at that and say, So what are you thinking? So, well, it's just the universe. And yeah, we can say that now, you know, like when she came and picked me up the very first time, I'm so grateful to God that she didn't just write me off, you know, because there was probably a hundred different things that she could have been like, nope, nope, I'm cool, you know.

When she picked me up the very first time, maybe a week out, gang task force came and kicked in our spot at like five in the morning while we were asleep, just flashlights and tactical gear and machine guns. Right. This isn't her house. This is a spot for the gang. Well, no. I guess this is no.

So we, fresh out of prison, we got like a month at the extended stay. Okay. You know, like you pay for like a hotel or an extended. Yeah. Hotel type shit. Yeah, it's like an apartment. Yeah. And so while we were looking at,

for an apartment to get. We were there for a month. And that's where the gang unit kicked in the... Yeah. And so I was at the top of the gang sweep list. You just got out. I know. And so they kicked in our shit, machine guns,

searching everything, running, you know, barcodes and making sure nothing was stolen. Is she there? Yeah. Like, she doesn't have any experience. Yep. Yep, they search her purse. They find her old ID thinking that she was still working at the prison.

And she's like, I resigned. And she'd still stuck with you. Because a lot of chicks would have been like, yeah, listen, I'm done. I can't be going through this. Yeah, no, she definitely was having sent. Like, God, God is so good because he's placed the most incredible women in my life. You know, we went through a lot of ups and we were married for nine years, almost 10 years. So I get locked up on that time.

for the violation for the DUI. And I just spend that time in there just chilling with the homies, just smoking. I'm knowing I'm getting out in like 30 days. And so, yeah, I kicked back that number for everyone in California. I had a T-88071 number that gave back. And I stayed out of prison for probably

seven years. Oh. Okay. You know, we got married. When you were out during that stretch, was it still gang activity? Oh, it was horrible. It was saying, okay. Yeah, it was horrible, which had me feeling like, that was probably, mind you,

you know, like my father caught a life sentence for murder when I was nine months old. And so like, growing up, I never wanted my kids to feel the same things that I felt, you know. And so when I had my son, I was really hard on myself because that's when I was in, like, the thick of my bullshit, you know. There was a lot of shootouts, a lot of just back and forth.

Like, I was afraid to have my kids in the car. I couldn't take them, you know, to certain gas stations. I couldn't. It was just really the city Stockton went bankrupt. The whole city went bankrupt, so there was no police officers, there was no ambulances, there was no,

the only thing that would slide through every couple hours is a highway patrol, but then they got to get back on the highway and do their job. And so, like, in the height of my son being born is when Stockton was rocking and rolling, which is always rocking and rolling. And it's very active. But, yeah, I just felt bad.

You know, I'm very grateful. I thank God every day. You know, just a lot of things. It's just horrific acts of violence. And then just like coming home and playing with my son on the crown, like just feeling like my father. Just like, fuck. Did you ever reach out to your father?

Did he ever reach out to you? Have you ever had a conversation with him? him? Not until which this is like, we're jumping and we can jump, it's okay. My brother had been contacting my father in prison. And through my brother, I got a letter for my father. Mind you, I'm 30 years old. You know, the first time I've ever been in contact with of my entire life. And so, and so I fell out of visiting form

to go visit them. Mind you, I didn't think I'd get approved, to be honest. At this time, I was running a lot of firepower all over the place. I don't know how else to say it, okay? And in the midst of, I guess you could say trafficking,

stuff all over, was going to pick up a shipment somewhere in Washington. And so now I know I have to go pick something up in Washington. So I buy my ticket to go out there. But then maybe four days before I'm going to leave, I get a letter that my, I've been approved to visit my father. and so now I'm picking up a shipment and going to visit my father in the same area in Washington. Then like maybe the day before

I'm set to leave, I get a phone call that my grandfather was sick. And that he had cancer and was in the hospital and it wasn't looking good and I might should come there. I felt bad. This is the first time my family's probably hearing this. I had already had,

had tickets to come out there to do a couple different things before my father, my grandfather had gotten sick. And so I get out there and the first thing I do is I go see my grandfather. And he had like seven different types of cancer and it was really, it was really messy. Like as soon as I got there, they left me with them and it was like, it was a little traumatizing. But I'd go pick up all the stuff I need to get. And then I go see my father. I go visit him in prison and walking into prison. So there's a car parked in the parking lot with 600 pounds of

in the prison that walked a lot while you're walking going into. Okay, this genre paint the scene. Yeah, no, there was no drugs. It was all firepower. Either way. But no, I had a whole bunch of people out there. And so there was, it was nowhere on the vicinity. It was me things like that.

Henry Hill and I forget the character named De Niro place where they're doing the drug deal in their probation officers or swapping the bags waiting to be called. Something like that. Yeah, and so I go to the prison and me and my brother go, and the very first thing he says to me

as he's hugging me is, damn, son, I didn't think they would let you in here. Had I known, I would have had you bring me something. And it's like, for one, I had already did all these years in prison. I'm all these years out. This is your first time ever giving me a hug and talking to me, and that's the first thing you say. And so that just kind of threw the whole visit off in itself.

But I went through the formalities. Yeah, that would put up a wall. Yeah. You know, but in that moment, I also realized that me growing up my entire life and wanting my father and being in all this pain because everyone else had their dad. In that moment, I realized that him not being in my life was a massive blessing because people think I went left when I should have went right. Like, had he been in my life? Oh, man. Who would have knows what kind of people, what kind of person I would be right?

now. And so, yeah, he did 33 years straight. Yeah, sometimes God removes people. Oh, for a reason. Oh, God keeps removing people out of my life and bringing people in. And he's so incredible. But, yeah, he got out. Is he in California? Do you see him? Oh, no, no, no. So, so he had gotten trouble for, like, stabbing up a bunch of Aryans in prison and they moved him to a couple different prisons. and when they let him out, they didn't really want to let him out in California because of the Aryans. And so I guess they let him out in Texas.

But I didn't really fuck with him for numerous reasons. But I did at the same time, I did understand what it felt like to get out of prison and not have anything. So when he came home, I don't know, I may be sent like two grand here 500, 800

but then he started asking for money more than I felt like he should. But then he contacts me and was like the press the press found me I'm like the press found you and they're trying to pay me $5,000

for an interview. He's like, I don't know what to do because I need the money. I'm like well that kind of sounds like you're black male, you know what I'm saying? Like, so I'm not knowing that this whole time he had already did the interview. Oh. I'm sure how much how the interview could hurt you anyway.

And he's, well, it could hurt me because I was still on federal parole. Oh, okay. And he's on parole. And we're not supposed to have contact. And so he's doing this whole interview talking about how we talk all the time and how he sends me money and how he can't wait to meet my kids and how he can't like all this stuff that we never fucking talked about. Right.

And so I cut him off right there. I was like, dude, you're just so fucking full of shit. I was like, that's wild. I was like, and you tried to blackmail me? I was like, all right. And so, yeah, no one, me or my brother really didn't mess with him. Let's go back to the seven-year stretch. Why'd you end up going back to jail after the seven years?

You were married, you got a kid. your deep in criminal activity, what happened that caused you to go back? So I'm deep in criminal activity, but I'm also very, very present as a father, which sounds crazy. Taking the kids to school every day, just like, just being a father,

just being what I never had. So there was a father and son, and there was some shooting, and then a couple people got shot, and there was a lot of back and forth, And then when the son would do shootings, he would then leave and call the cops and say someone shot at him. And then the father would slide through and shoot some shit up.

And then the dad would call the cops. This was their thing is that we would go back and forth, but every time they shot at us, they would call the cops and say someone shot at them. And so it was protecting themselves. Yeah. And we didn't know they were doing this. And so this huge investigation and this operation,

And I don't even like talking about it, but Operation Ceasefire, the FBI, the DEA, the ATF, Stockton Game Task Force, a whole bunch of alphabets was investigating me and a bunch of my homies and a bunch of my homies for a variation of things. and when I picked up my little brother up for work not my real DNA brother but my lay brother T-loat when I picked my brother up for work at six in the morning

they pulled us over and I'm thinking it's just a regular routine I didn't hit my blinker type shit and they pull us out and search the car and I have like a I had like an XD 4-5 or something in the trunk

and they were like whose gun is this? And I'm like, I don't know. And they're like, well, the car is in your wife's name so I guess we're going to go arrest her. And I'm like, well, I guess it's mine then. I was like, it is mine.

And so they take us back to my little brother's house which is right around the corner. And that's when we see the soccer mom fans and the fucking corvettes and the camrys and the FBI jackets and the DEA jackets and the ATF jackets and they're

coming out of my little brother's house and they got sniper rifles and assault rifles and all these evidence bags and we knew in that moment that this wasn't a routine stop. They take us to the police station and that's when we

see we pass this room and there's a bunch of our And it's like, that's when we find out that the feds kicked in 13 doors at once. Is this a RICO? Or this is just a conspiracy? Just a conspiratorie investigation where they dubbed me the shock caller and the kingpin. And it's like, like, how am I a kingpin I work for $14 an hour? I'm on my way to work.

Like, how am I a shock caller? I'm not even from Stockton. You know what I'm saying? So how they like dubbed me the shot caller and the leader of the north side gangster crypts? And it's like, that's not true. Like none of this stuff that the Stockton Police Department is saying is true. And so, yeah, we knew it was serious. And so that night, mind you, I'm now sitting in jail.

Like, I know that I'm going to jail. and I know that I know that I'm not going to be able to pick my son up from school you know this is the first time that I'm locked up and I have kids and so you know I just all I just thought about that conversation when he finds out that I'm not going to be coming home so I'd even go to sleep that night I was in a cell with one of my homies and we stayed up all night

just chopping it up about fucking how serious this shit was. I had never messed around and I had never been involved in anything that the FBI and the DEA and the ATF was all investigating something at the same time. I just remember standing at my door and the door pops and I look out my door and they're like, Meeks, Channel 12 wants to visit you. Like, do you want it?

And I'm like, sure. And so I go into the visiting thinking it's Channel 12 and it's one of my folks, Ken. And Ken informs me that I'm mugshot, had gone viral and I never had Facebook or none of that shit. So I didn't know what it meant. And so he sat for 10 minutes trying to explain what was happening. So do you still to this day,

Did you know that, like, was it somebody took your mugshot? Oh, no, it sent it to somewhere? It was Stockton Police Department. So they sent it to the press. They put it on their Facebook page. And just some reporter saw it and went, wow. Well, from Stockton Police Department's Facebook page, they put a bunch of our mugshots and some guns and some, you know. And from there, I went viral.

So some reporter said someone, you know, it just, this guy looks like a fucking supermodel. Everybody needs a good pair of jeans. What I like about the perfect gene is that the moment you put them on, they feel like sweatpants. They don't ever pinch or bind up. As a matter of fact, they're super stretchy. There's never any point where you feel like they're binding up on you or they're tight or they pinch you or anything like that. They're comfortable in pretty much any position that you sit in.

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He's too pretty to go to prison. So then I get out from the visit Do you really understand what's how? He just can't really explain it. No, well, I still, I just didn't, it didn't make sense to me. Because I've never been, I'm like, in the streets. I don't understand fads and social media and Hollywood.

And I don't know, none of that. I'm, like, immersed in it. I'm full-blown. All this shit is not real. So then I walk out of that. I walk out from seeing the home you can. and I walk into my section, into the pod,

into the pod, yeah, into the pod. And when I walk up the stairs, the Crip TV has my mugshot, the stories, the white TV, the Mexican TV, different language. And so I'm walking up the stairs going, oh shit, so this is what he's talking about. So then I go into the cell

for maybe 15 more minutes. and they popped my door again, and this time it was Channel 12. And so I go into this interview, and they're like, the chief of police said, you're a shot caller, and you're a kingpin,

and you're this and that. And it's like, none of it made sense. And so I'm like, dude, I don't want to talk about the guns and the violence and the this and that. Like, if you want to talk about something, like, let's talk about me being a father.

Let's talk about me working. Let's talk about me. And so that's all we talked about. until the end of the interview when they're fake packing up the cameras. And they're like, so why did you have the gun? And I'm like, oh, well, I'm not knowing this whole time this recording. Oh, yeah, come on, you know. Well, I didn't know.

I didn't know. I didn't know. They wait till the very end of the fucking, you know, to catch you. Yeah. And so, yeah, and so, boom, within, I would say on the third day, that's when just floods and floods of letters from all over. over the world. I was probably getting

300 letters a day. I have a question. Is it women saying like, oh my gosh? Because we... Everything. Yeah. Is there,

because I can only imagine, because we have average looking guy coming here talking about the letters he's getting from women. Talking about... And it was just too much. Yeah.

I'm getting naked pictures. I'm getting money orders. All kind of money's being sent in. Yeah, I mean, I remember, I was locked up. Like, I specifically remember sitting in the TV room and this, they show your picture on whatever it was, you know, it's like, entertainment tonight or something.

They're like, you know, you know, what were some of the names? Like the, you know, was it the names that they gave you? Like, oh, there was many monikers. The hot felon. Hot felon, yeah. The sexy convict, the blue-eyed bandit. I don't know You got to come on

You got a lot of good So I got some Prison Bay Prison Bay Yeah yeah Yeah that was probably the main one The hot fell in the prison bay Yeah

Um Yeah it was Yeah you're sorry to interrupt No no no It was wild though Because I was getting too many letters To where I couldn't even read them on And so I'm passing them down the tier

And now everyone's going Hey This shit just said She sent these pictures, I'm going to send them down. And like, it became this whole thing to where we had, you know, numerous races involved because it was just too many. Right. You know what I'm saying? And so then the hate came from the correction officers, you know, because it's a state case.

And in state, there now can be press in the courtroom. So in the feds, there's no press. a lot. But in state, every time I went into the courtroom, there was 100 reporters and everyone was fighting each other for camp better angles and the judges screaming and it was like a zoo in there. And I had been to court a hundred times and it was never like this. I was angry for a very long time and I had to then come and realize that people are human

And there's a lot of people that carry a lot of trauma and a lot of hate and a lot of, you know, but I was very angry with the correctional officers who, you know, they were beating the shit out of me for a while, different shift changes and... This is just jealousy. Yeah, just those were kind of a lot of it boils down. Yeah, there's a lot that I could say,

but, you know, it's just, it's not going to shed. They already got the light shed on them. And so people know what the cops do and the correctional officers do. How did it change how the inmates, you know, that it changed the way the inmates interacted to do at all? You don't seem like you've had an easy go of it up until this point. And does this make it worse or better? No, so one thing, I've never once been a victim in prison.

I've never been bullied. I've never been. I've always been the aggressor. And so, like, I never had issues like that in prison. You know what I'm saying? Like, and then even with this, like, because of the way that I conduct myself, no, you know what I'm saying?

Like, people who look for issues are going to find issues. You know what I'm saying? Like, and so I just never had, I never got any hate from any inmates because of this. You know what I'm saying? Like, I mean, Colby's heard me say this, a thousand times. I'm like, you know,

if you get stabbed in prison, you had a comment. Oh, you did something. Yeah, you deserve it. Yeah, you deserve it. Yeah,

you talk shit about somebody. You ran up of debt. Yeah. You did something. You didn't just happen. And they probably even tried to tell you for sure. Check in. Yeah,

you probably got disciplined once or twice before this. Right. And so, yeah. This is unique. This, you know, because this is kind of a jealousy thing.

Like, I can see the guards being jealous and inmates being jealous like, Why do you get in this attention? Well, see, that's the whole thing. It was the exact opposite. You know what I'm saying? Like, they were like, fuck yeah. Someone fucking finally blew up off this.

You know what I'm saying? And so from being in state court, because then I had all the press, then the feds pick up the case. So the state, when it's dropped. And so the state, yes. So the state gets dropped. Feds pick it up. Boom. They take me from San Juan County, Stockton County jail.

and ship me to Sacramento County because that's where they have the federal holding facility that's where you go to court at stay capital and stick me on the eighth floor so first I go to the seventh floor but then my cellie

on my second day my cellie comes back in the cell with a fucking toothpaste and a soap and then goes to sleep and the next you know the southerners come to the door like, hey, did someone steal a toothpaste in the soap from in front of one of my homies cell? And I'm like, no, and they like,

I wake this dude up, dude, get up. Did you take it? They're like, no, someone gave it to me. Well, who gave it to you? And they were like, hey, check it out. He stole from us. And I'm like, look, I'll take care of it because what you're not going to do

is put your hands on another black. It's not going to happen. We clean up our own backyard. And so now I'm in the cell beating the shit out of this guy because I'm trying to stop a fucking race war. Blacks against Southerners, blacks against Mexicans. Because you cross a line and you're a J-Cat. In California, J-Cats like a Category J. You're crazy.

Okay. You know, like you're on psych meds. You're on hot meds. You're taking Sarah Quills. You're taking antidepressants. And so he clearly wasn't all there. But that doesn't change the fact that we are in a facility. where you have to conduct yourself to a certain manner.

And if you cross a line, then I can't just let you get up out of here. It's just I can't let, I can't roll you up without me putting hands on you, you know. And so he told the police and then they shipped me up to the eighth floor and now I'm in the hole, which was wild because it was a whole bunch of other J-cats up there and they're like rubbing feces all over people's door because you come out one and. at a time. You come off like 15 minutes, 45 minutes sometimes a day by yourself. No percent people don't realize there's a lot of mental illness and and, and well, I mean, all I know is is federal. Everywhere though. There's, they have units where it's like in,

Coleman, they would have a unit where everybody in there was either schizophrenic or or extremely bipolar to such a degree that they're almost schizophrenic. I mean, there were major issues and then they would put an inmate with them to take care of them. And you got paid. You get paid like $25 a month to, that's crazy.

To be a sally with this guy and you made sure that he took a shower and he did his laundry and you got other perks because you were in this special unit. But like, you know, there's no mental hospitals, you know, like Reagan closed all the mental hospitals. So what they do is they wait for these people to fuck up and they send them to

the feds or the state or something that's the new mental hospital yeah and I think and I think that is because of and this is jumping again just because it's big business you know like do you mean prisons?

Prison, okay. Do you know what I'm saying? Even the feds like even not not all fed prisons are owned 100% by the feds. All right. There's a geo. There's, what is it?

Is it CCA? Is that what to? Yeah, CCA. And so it's like, congressional corporation of America. Yeah. And so that's another reason why a lot of that mental health, like, they shouldn't be in prison.

A lot of them don't even know where they are. I've seen a lot of people that don't know where they are. And it's like the fact that you have him locked up in a prison. Oh, and they'll give him real sentences. They don't even take into consideration. That's like, how is that not a check? How are you? not have him in there because you're getting

$110 a day and you're getting I know I know I know I know but it's just insane is we had guys that were just as wild elutely we had guys that were you know and I can I've told tons of stories of guys just guys that were went from the state the fed the guys in the state are tired of this fucking nut job roommate they've got and

he's complaining because this is this is a guy I've told I've said this one his name was um they called him Mr. Freeze he had narcolepsy and he would fall asleep and I mean sitting down he'd you watch TV and fall asleep and hit the ground and lay there for a minute and get up and sit back down and start watching him he would stop he'd walk across the the compound and just stop and so he's like asleep for like standing up for like a minute and then he go and then he started walking him but he was he was off his rocker and he was in the state and his roommates are sick of him and he's complaining about how there's no there's no air conditioning

how hot it is. And they go, oh, you want to do time in the Fed. And they got AC. And he's like, yeah, I do. Well, how do I do that? And they go, you just got to commit a federal crime. And you'll be able to serve your time in the state in the Fed. And they're like, really? Well, what do you do? He said, you know what you could do? You could write a letter to the president. Bush was president. So he wrote a letter threatening that when he got out of prison. He was going to, he was going to kill the president. And he was going to kill his wife and daughter. And he was going to rape the dog, which I always thought was a nice, a nice little touch. You know, he was a little creative. video sent it in and a few weeks later two secret service agent show up and they question him and he

says he he was serious and so they indicted him and brought him to federal court and of course now he's got a federal defendant and the federal defender explains to the judge your honor he's an idiot his this is what happened this is what he thought and the judge says I get it and I'm going to grant your request and as soon as you do your state time you'll be moved to the fed and he got seven years seven years for writing a letter. Think about this. He couldn't get himself to D.C. He couldn't get in a position to harm the president.

That dog's safe. And, you know, but they had no problem. Yeah, but I'm going to go. And he's got a documented history of being a psych patient. You just give him seven years? Come on, then. That's not. Yeah.

That's not right. And then, of course, I know, you know, you, he sits in this one unit. He's got a special caretaker that takes care of it. But that's what they do. Yeah. I mean, at least they do that, though, because they don't do nothing like that. They don't have to do that even probably, right?

No, no, because they don't do nothing like that in California. Yeah, these guys are just smearing. Yeah, they're just insane. Yep, nope, they just got them in a special unit. And so in California, a lot of people, I'm trying to think of what the acronym or what the name is for the mental health section of the prison. but the people will get on that normal people

so that they can stab up some shit and not get in no trouble because you're considered crazy. Yeah. And so those people in those units, they're stabbing every day and they come to yard and they don't get in no trouble. And they're just like nutcases that they don't do shoe terms. They don't do none of it.

But yeah. And so you're in the shoe with a bunch of crazies. Yeah. And then mind you, I'm still a month into my mugshot going viral. This is so fresh that I'm still getting letters. I got random, random fucking people coming up to visit me. And Sacramento is very strict. Like, their correctional officers are being investigated

because they've killed so many inmates. But they're very strict and just assholes when it comes to visiting because I'm getting random people visiting me and I'm denying them before I even walk up the stairs into the section and I'm like, I don't know who that person is. I could see him through the glass.

I'm like, I don't know who that person is. And they're like, well, I'm still taking your visit. You can deny it, but I'm still gonna take your visit. for the week. And it's like, yeah, yeah. So now my family can't come. Right. Because I got fucking random people coming to see me.

And it's just, it was so frustrating. I was grateful. They don't know that they're there. They don't know that you only get, you only get three visits a week or two visits. And they only realize fucking. And so the first couple times and what frustrated me is that I had like two people who came back like three or four different times after I had already went up there and told them, please don't come back. Right.

I need to see my kids. Right. What are they, what are they saying? Yeah. Why are they even cutters? Well, we drove all the way from Tennessee.

And it's like, yeah. So I didn't ask you to come back. I understand that. And thank you. I was like, you're at least getting a hamburger? Yeah,

but my son's five years old. And he doesn't understand why I'm not home. And he needs to see me. And so I'm just going to ask that you, please don't come back. Is this right me? Is this through the glass?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you can't even get a hamburger. They can't even get you from that. Yeah, so it's county in the air. Yeah, it's county jail. And so, yeah, it was, you know, it was rough. But again, and the only thing that made it rough is because my kids. Right.

You know. Have you been sentenced at this point? No. Okay. Okay, so that part, my sentencing, so because of my juvenile, because of my prison priors, my gang affiliation, my all of this shit, my PSI, my probation report. Yeah, yeah. My PSI came up to like, I don't know, 67 months, between 67 and 70-something.

I don't know. It was like, it was a high number. My judge, I had the only black judge in the Eastern District, Judge Nunley, If you see this, I'm so grateful. Thank you. From the bottom of my heart. And the DA, she was aggressive. She was really aggressive.

And I think there was so much hype around my name in my case. Even a USA, the U.S. attorney. Yeah, yes. Yeah. That, I don't know. I think she was just like, because she was even shooting for more, you know. They were asking a whole bunch.

And I just remember my judge saying no, you know, Jeremy has an opportunity that no one's ever had before. I want him to get out as soon as possible and take full advantage of this. I'm only going to sentence him to 27 months, which was massive because I could have did like six years. I could have done something crazy. Right. And he gave me barely two, you know.

And so, yeah, he was, I felt bad because I ended up catching more time and I caught with some knives and got in trouble for disciplinary. We punched on one of the homies for a gambling debt. I just got in a couple. I got in some trouble even though I had this crazy career that I was getting out to. I still had to conduct myself in a certain manner while still in prison. What were you charged with? I was charged. Oh, man, it was amazing.

I was charged with felon in possession of a firearm. And so all 21 charges of these crazy. So from my case, a lot of people donated a shit ton of money. And if any of you guys watched this, thank you. which helped with my lawyer and So you're able to get a private lawyer? Yeah, so I was able to get a private lawyer

who was incredible and you know how the feds are or just how just the core systems are in general they tack on a bunch of charges. Usually state, let me not say the feds, usually the feds have a 98% conviction rate so they don't do no plan. but the state will put a bunch of charges on you

and then only maybe two will stick. So yeah, they ended up getting all the drop down to fell in possession of a firearm. They gave me 27 months. They sent me to Mendota. I'm so grateful to go there because Is that a medium? Yeah, it was a medium.

Yeah, it was a medium. I mean, I know. Yeah. Which, like, A lot of the homies there, most of them had life. So we were probably like 50 cribs deep. And probably 35 of them were in there for bankruptcy. It was maybe seven of them that had life with no date.

And to be honest, I didn't know what I was going to do, you know. Like I was going through county jail just with young homies and still on that board, not even thinking. And I'm like still in that mind frame of I'm going to get out and now I'm going to be famous and I'm going to have all these money and I'm going to buy all these. I'm just get all this stuff and put all my homies on. Because my mind is still young. I'm still. And then even in county, I'm like still active and I'm still punching on shit. I'm still disciplined.

I'm still popping people's doors and I'm still rolling people up and getting them up out of there and, you know, and so it's like, then I get to the feds and I get around homies who have been down 26 years. Clayne never coming home.

You start getting those talks. Yeah, they're walking me around the track every day. Straighten your fucking life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like, what are you going to do? Yeah. What are you going to do?

Are you going to do the same shit? Yeah. Do you want to be in here with me? mean? Yeah. You want to walk this, you want to walk this track? Because I would love, you know what I would do if I had your opportunity? These are like, and they're like subconsciously passing me off to the next OG. And like, we're 50 Crips in their working out, machine in motion, hitting a thousand burpees a day. Like, real machine. And I could have, they kept me out of a lot of shit. I, because again, I'm not going to say, I didn't care about the career and the blessing,

and I didn't know what I was getting into. I didn't know. Are you still getting letters? Still getting letters. I'm still getting movie opportunities. I'm still, while I was in the feds, I signed the deal with a management, a management agency. And then they still, they had modeling.

They had all kind of shit. And so I'm having a phone call with them once a week. You know what I'm saying? they're sending me books, the artist way, the Yvonne Chubbitt acting book. Like, they're sending me all kinds of, you know what I'm saying? But they're trying to create. Yeah, but I'm in prison.

Yeah. And I'm in this world. And I'm not there yet. And so while I'm here, I have to conduct myself as I'm here. And in California medium, you should have gone to a Florida medium. You didn't have much better place. It wouldn't have been nearly as serious. Yeah, well, the thing is, too, it's like,

anything California is, you might, It becomes, it's much, much more dangerous. The fucking lows are dangerous. The camps are, they're politicking like the camps. It's like, it's a camp. Yeah. What do you do? What do you talk about?

But then again, when I tell you that I thank God all the time that my case went federal and not state, for one, I have two strikes. Um, and so this case, I, the main, my main thing is that I couldn't, I, I wouldn't have made it out of. state prison in the same time frame. It just wanted to happen. It's just California state prison is too violent. It's too, there's too much politics. Like, I could have only made it out like that if I got picked up by the feds. Um, because everything in the feds was me, was me and my shit.

You know what I'm saying? Like, it wasn't everything around me like, police run up in our business. building on a fake firearm. I know that the crib table has, I'm sitting at the crib table and there's a newspaper folded in the middle of it. But if you flip over that newspaper, there's an envelope with three knives in there, just ready to rock and roll. And so it's like, if I just get up and walk out of the building like they're telling me to,

then that knife is just sitting on the crib table. So now they're going to come snatch up every crib in the building. And so I grabbed the newspaper, I throw it away. They search all the trash cans. It was crazy how it happened. So they search the trash cans. Find the knives. They rip up the whole building, search every cell.

When we come back in the building, I go to the trash can and it's just empty. There's no bag or nothing. So I'm like, that's gone. So then two days, three days later, maybe four days. I don't know. We're having an issue with one of our homies who had ran up gambling debts. Before I even got there, he had already been disciplined. So then he had ran up another gambling debt or something, and my celly was walking around

finding out asking who's going to discipline him and wasn't no one really standing up for it. And so I'm like, fuck it, I'll do it. You know, like it's just a DP, you know. And so me and a couple other homies run up in the bathroom, and we DPM, and he's screaming, and everyone in the building's looking. And I, like, I punch over, I punch, because he's, like, hiding in between the pister stalls, screaming. And I, like, punch over the stall.

And my knuckle catches the wood. And so when I'm on them, I don't realize that my whole, whole hands ripped open. And so I come, as soon as I walk out of the bathroom, everybody's staring at us because they can hear this guy in there screaming. And so I come out and I wrap my hand up and fucking, I'm talking to my older homie, fat dog, rest in peace. He's just passed away a couple months ago.

And they fucking call my name on the PA system. Meeks, maybe five minutes after I have DP dude and I'm bleeding. And they're like, Meeks report to the lieutenant's office. Is this just, just a cop-house? I'm like, fuck. I'm like thinking people told her on me that quick. So I walk in there. I'm like, oh, shit.

I got my, I put, I put the workout gloves on with like a little rag to stop the bleeding. Got my hands behind my back. I walk into lieutenant's office. And they're like, yeah, so we got you on camera throwing three knives in the garbage. I'm like, damn, I thought, I thought we were talking about something else. I'm not known. I'm dropping blood all over the floor. Right.

And so, yeah, they take me to the hole. I end up doing like seven months in the hole some shit. I don't know. Would you lose 54 days gain time? What do you lose on, I mean, that's just, they're not going to give you a charge. They're going to. No, they didn't charge me.

They took away good time, right? Yeah, they took away some good time. They just added some, you know, a couple months. I probably got like six months out of, on to my time, something like that. I don't know how it worked out. I got into some more trouble, though. It wasn't just a knife.

But funny, I had a guy, I had a buddy of mine who, you know, walked away from a camp, got arrested, was there for like a year, walked away from a camp. Why would you do that? Was gone for like two or three years, I think. Gets caught. I want to say he got caught like in Spain, brought back. No charge because there's no fence. So they gave him. So he ended up getting 30.

I got it. I would love to get him on the podcast. He lost like 35 days or 45 days, good time. That's it. And they moved him to a medium because you don't get to go back to a camp. And I met him in the low. But when he was in the medium, he then stole like four pieces of bread from the chow hall. And they took away 54 days, good time.

He's like, I got, I lost 54 days for the bread, but the escape. Like it doesn't, they don't add up. You know, none of them, it's, you'll hear like one guy, you know, whatever, tattooing, they'll take away, you know, 25 days or something. But then some other, something else that would be 50. And you're like, that makes no sense at all. But one's theft and one is absconding, I guess they called it. Boom.

You want to hear something crazier. So when I get out and will. jump all the way back, but like six of my homies that had life in the feds, no date, no date at all. One by one, they started coming to the door saying, come on, let's go. They're going, where am I going? Medical or what? They're like, no, you're going home. You want to go or not?

Let's go. So they're walking all the way to R&R thinking, oh, shit, this is for the wrong person. He's going to turn around and say, oh, I've made a mistake. No, law started changing. Is it like the crack law or was this? Just different laws of crack law, Obama's law, like different laws started changing and they started like six of my homies that didn't have no date that I was in the feds with. They all got out.

Yeah, I knew a couple of guys that had nothing in, by the way. It's just that and so the crack law had changed and Obama, so and they automatically gave them public defenders who filed motions. These guys have no idea. Any of this is going on. They're kicked back thinking nothing. And then one day they get a letter saying, I'll be, I'm your lawyer. I'm coming to see you.

Or they get a phone call. Saying you're being released. And yeah. And the guy's like, hey, I'm your public defender. I'm like, no, you're not. My public defender is so and so. Like, I haven't heard from that guy in 20 years. You're like, no, no, I was appointed.

We filed this. We filed that. It's been granted. They should be releasing you in the next few days. Dude, one of them, one of them got out. After 26 years, the homie Wack, Wack got out and his probation stipulations was that he wasn't allowed a phone.

He wasn't allowed a bank account. He wasn't allowed to get a license. It's like, I've been gone for 26 years. And you just, I don't even go to court. I don't know. nothing, you just come snatch me out of my cell. And then within 24 hours, I got to report to my parole officer or probation because it's feds. Report to my probation officer. And then now you tell me that you're tying my hands behind my back and kicking me in the water and telling me to swim.

He's coming back. Yeah, no. And so they kept him like that for like a year and a half with all these stipulations, but then they allowed him to get a phone and get a bank account. But it was just like, dude, how you want to release me? And after the first. couple years when this was happening. They were releasing guys just like that. And they were, their recidivism rate for these guys were so high. What they realized was, and this was all during the Obama administration, uh, they realized, wait a minute, we, we can't take a guy in the pen who's been living there for 15 or 20 years and release him back into society. He's a monster. You know what I'm saying, he's not, he can't do. So what they did was they started saying,

okay, you're going to go to the medium for a year. Then you're going to going to go to a low and then you have to go through like RDAP or the halfway house yeah well of course you got to go the whole and then so that had a much better result because you're acclimating them back into society as opposed to like that guy who gets it what's he going to go back to what he knows yeah I'm going to go rob a bank or I'm going to go sell drunk and again in california like these halfway houses are getting everyone killed because now everyone knows where you're at you can only go to a certain amount of halfway houses in California especially northern California you're only going to go to four. And it's like,

the feds have tons of them like the people. They're pretty good. The feds. No, not in California. No. Okay. Well, yeah, the fed your halfway house is in California. In northern California, you're only going to like Lake Merritt or you're going to Vallejo or you're going to like these certain halfway house. And everyone knows too so many people dying every, every week because you get released and people know exactly where you are. Yeah, when I, when I got released, I had signed with a management agency,

and they came in, Jim Jordan, he came and picked me up. Well, he was there when my wife and kids picked me up from the feds. Did you go to a halfway house? Yeah, yep. And so they wanted allow, like, he filled out all the paperwork and requested to have a camera crew come on, fucking, and they were like negative. Like, you have to stay off of federal grounds.

you can meet him on the road. And so, yeah, my wife and kids came and picked me up, drove me out to the road where Jim and a whole camera crew was at. You know, I put on all my street clothes and put in my gold teeth and put all my shit. And fucking we drove to the halfway house in Fresno, which was actually called Hotel California. It was like an old hotel off the side of the highway that was like run down. It was like the projects.

You're like fenced in. It was weight piles. It was like a prison yard. And everyone's telling you because it was wild. But yeah, it happened really fast. One thing I'll say that I didn't speak about to is like my judge, Judge Nunley, we'd even have to put in a request. So he figured from my media

and from my exposure that I would be traveling in the world. And you know with the feds, if you go anywhere in the United States, your probation officer can grant you that. But if you want to lead the country, you know how to set a court date

and go in front of the judge and do all of that. And so as soon as I got out, my very first parole probation officer was like, I just got some papers from the judge and he's granted me power to let you travel the world at my call. Nice. And I'm like, he's like, usually we have to fill out for that kind of paperwork. And I'm like, just another blessing, you know, because it happened fast and I hit the ground running. And so it was like the thought of having an opportunity. I had to go to Amsterdam. And when I went to, I'd already been traveling all over when I got out, went to my probation officer. And she's like, I.

I can't approve this. She's like, you can't go to, you can't leave the country? And I was like, well, can I ask the judge? She was like, well, yeah, you would have to. So we put in a motion and the judge came back and said, okay. But I remember she said, there's no way he's going to let you get a passport because, I know you don't know my case, but like two of my charges are false, false application for a passport and use of a false app, of use of a false passport.

Because they're like 20 something passport. And so she's like, he's not going to give you, let you get a passport. port and I was like, no, but it's in my name. And but we had to put it in. He said, absolutely, I have no problem with that. Yeah. Yeah. And so that was, that was massive because it's like, nobody gets, that, that doesn't have, even, even typically, you have to have a good reason. Yeah. And a lot of times they just say, no, like what? You're on, you're on supervised release.

You can't leave the country. Yeah. No, I had. It just work for you. Yeah, I had blessing after blessing. It was like, none of it we had to fight for. We didn't have to fight for anything. It was like, God, just lined up all the right people, the right judges, the right probation, the right, the right, and so. Yeah, but you're also making, you're also making good decisions now and you're, you're right. Am I, I, I'm assuming, no, for sure, no, you know, there's violations. No, no, no, I didn't violate once. I never gave no dirties. I never, you know, by the time you get out, are you, have you, have you come over the course of those few years,

have you come to the realization at this point, like, hey, I, I have, my life has to change. Yes, and no. you know, I come from a long line of addicts, you know, and so streets, juvenile hall, county, state prison, I never not smoked. Like, I smooth throughout everything, right? And in the feds, you know, in the feds, every package that hit the yard, I bought everything.

You know, people were mad because as soon as a bundle would land, I would buy the whole thing. And so, but I also know. knew that once I got out, I couldn't smoke, you know, because the feds doesn't recognize cannabis. State does. State parole, I could smoke, but feds, no. And so from the Brown Street, Northerners beating in my back with the baseball bats,

I have a bulging disc in my L5, which they used to give me epidurals and want to give me surgery. and so through that, when I got out on parole, they would issue me a whole bunch of norcos. And so I can't smoke back on pop narcos. You know, and then I just started abusing them. Yeah, that can be a major problem. Yeah.

And so now I have, you know, crazy unlimited resources and a very addictive personality. I had never been addicted to anything because I did a whole bunch of stuff at different points in my life. It was never just one thing over and over and over and over. And so, yeah, the opiate situation hit me really hard. And no one knew anything, you know.

How long did that go on? For a year, did you break that yourself or did you go to a rehab? No, I didn't go to a rehab per se, but it went from, it went from, you know, just getting normal scripts to buying hundreds, you know, to then switch into oxies and roxies. And then it was like $1,000 a day of oxy cottons I was buying for, I don't know, almost a year. year, but we're talking 30 grand a month on oxies. And also, what a waste of mine like, yeah, yeah, you know, addiction is, it's such a horrible disease that, you know, when I had never in my life felt more powerless, you know,

I've always been very headstrong, very just strong-willed, I mean, in control as much as I've ever felt, you know. But through opiates, I'd never felt more weaker and more powerless. And fuck, travel in the world. I mean, I'm in Moscow. I'm in Israel. I'm in Austria. I'm in Germany and Switzerland and fuck.

Like, everywhere. You're getting contracts through your agency. Yeah. shooting fucking campaigns and walking in fashion shows and doing like the dopest shit ever and people think i'm doing my best work and it's like they didn't know that i was heavily addicted you know right um and it never came out you know uh and so you know it got to the point where i was i was about to have my second child and the mother of my second child by this point you're divorced yes I'm divorced um and in another relationship and the mother of my

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And she was four months pregnant. So she's like, dude, if something happens, like there's nothing I can do. And so luckily she made a phone call and got some help and got a doctor in there. It was very expensive, but they got me the treatment that I needed. And I think that in itself gave me a lot of survivors' guilt because a lot of my homies and people that I knew, you know, some of their addiction grew just because of the resources that I had to them buy.

And it's just like, if I'm doing it, you're doing it, and now everyone's getting higher and everyone's getting higher, and more drugs are being done. And then next, you know, I'm clean. 30 grand was dropped on my sobriety. Do you guys have 30 grand for your sobriety? Do you have an angel to pull you out of the, and say, you know, and so it was like,

I was then pulled out of that, and then immediately we moved to Monte Carlo, France. And it's like, now I'm in France, just like sober and clean. I just felt bad because a lot of the people that I knew were still struggling and still, you know, in the thick of it, shootouts and this and that, and they're just like,

But you can't take care of everybody. You can't, but that doesn't change how you feel, you know? And I just felt like, you know, I went through a lot of why me, you know, after everything. After I have, after I have a lot of homies doing multiple life sentences, you know, after I have a lot of people that overdose and after I have a lot of people, like, I then had to realize that God's plan is God's plan. And as many plans as I try to make for myself, it doesn't matter what I try to plan for myself because I just feel like God's up there laughing. Yeah, I've got something else for you.

There's that saying God is laughing while you're making plans. Yeah, and it's real, and that's how I've always felt. And so it's like now, you know, we had a conversation earlier about, you know, why I don't trip on, you know, some missed opportunities is because I know what God has for me, no one can take away, you know? And I know that God's going to have me exactly

where I need to be in front of exactly who I need to talk to. He's going to have me hear what I need to or say what I need to. And I just, it's like I just jump in a river now and I flow with it instead of trying to swim upstream, which that's what I tried to do for so many years. Um, well, I, I mean, on another topic, like, I saw on your Instagram, like, you've, you've been in a bunch of movies. Is it a bunch or is it a few? Yeah, no, I've done probably 17 movies, maybe. 17 movies, a couple TV shows, a bunch of theater. You know, I fell in love with theater now. Is this, is this, are the movies with the same, is it like the same producer? No, or these are just different ones? These are all different, you know, I probably did.

It sounds like they were multiple movies. They were the same character. Yeah, yeah. So I've done, okay, crazy story, full circle moment. I go to prison and at 18, I probably read at, I had a learning disability. And so I probably read at like a sixth grade level going to prison. And through all of my. going to the whole situations,

I would be forced to then try to pick up a book and read because there's nothing else to do. But when you read very slow, it's hard to comprehend. People always talk about reading is like a movie in your mind. Well, it's not if you don't know how to read. And so through me consuming books

because there's nothing else to do, I finally started to paint a picture in my mind about the characters of what I'm reading. And the very first book that ever did that was a book called True to the Game, written by Terry Woods. Yeah, everybody's read that book. Of course. And so, yeah, and so I read, I tracked down the other two. I read all three of them, which then led me to the Duchess, and I read all three Dutches, which led me to the Angels series, which led me to the, and now,

now these books are now taking me out of my prison cell and I'm thinking about these characters and I'm like, now it's turning into a movie in my mind. And it's just so crazy that full circle their very first movies that I do is true to the games. You know, like I had one meeting. I had multiple meetings with producers. Mind you, I was signed the CIA at first.

I was signed at different agencies. A lot of producers and directors, want to see what you've done. And if you have nothing to show them, well, then they kind of want to wait and see what you could do. But it's like, if no one... How do I do something?

Yeah, if no one gives me a first time, then if I'm saying, I'm just stuck. And so my manager, Kara, at the Sax Agency, she had me meet with Manny Haley. Originally, he was a massive music producer, manager, but then he started producing movies.

And I met with Mani Haley and Jamal Hill, who's a director, an incredible director. And I probably had only 20 minutes in the movie. I had a hard out. I mean, in the meeting, I had a hard out. I had to leave. I'm like, dude, I only have 20 minutes. I'm sorry.

And in that 20 minutes, he was like, have you ever heard of the trilogies Truth of the Game in Dutch? And I'm like, have I? And so I broke it all down. for him and like from that one 20 minute meeting, I signed a five-picture movie deal. And even with that one producer, Mani, Mani, thank you brother, he changed my life

when it came to this acting. It just snowballed. I've probably done seven projects with him, you know. But yeah, it just snowballed and, you know, through relationships, through work ethic, through, you know, word of mouth, I've just had all of these projects come in, which has been,

it's been crazy, you know, to, because I've always felt like I could do all these things, you know. You grow up and you see people on TV and you hear music and you're like, oh, I could rap and or I could do that or I could do that, but you never think, I never thought possible, you know. Yeah, you need that of the opportunity. Yeah, but also growing up,

I've never been in a creative space. You know, I've never really been around creatives. So then when I get out and I'm around all these creatives and I'm like, damn, this is the first time I've ever really been in a creative space to where I can be vulnerable and go to acting class and learn vulnerability and learn triggers and learn subtle nuances of acting. I realize that through all my trials and tribulations of life, I have a million. things that I can pull from when it comes to acting, emotions and anger and pain. And I can just, I've been through so much in my life that there's almost no situation on a set or in a movie

that our damn there haven't been in in real life. Right. And so I kind of know what that feels like and how to respond and what. And so, yeah, through my life of crime, it kind of geared me up for what God had in store for me. Hey, you guys, I appreciate you watching. Do me a favor. Hit the subscribe button at the bell, so you get notified of videos just like this.

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