Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - The Untraceable Market of 3D Printed Ghost Guns

Episode Date: October 18, 2023

The Untraceable Market of 3D Printed Ghost Guns

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And it comes with the drill bits. You have to drill out a couple holes where, like, the pins go to hold the trigger in place. And you, like, file down a couple pieces, like where the barrel goes. It takes me, I took, I did them in like 15, 20 minutes. Like, they're super easy to make. So the ATF tried to shut them down. And they took it to the Supreme Court and won. And the Supreme Court's like, no, this is, they have the right to put this stuff out there.

He put like, I don't know if it was a Glock, whatever, like a nine millimeter. He put it on a drone. And then the drone hovers in front of a maybe 15 or 20 feet away from a target. And he fires, he fires at it. Boom, boom. And the drone like does this. But when you're weaponizing drones on U.S. soil, it's bad. Hey, this is Matt Cox, and we are going to be doing another video with Dave Ostroff.

This one is going to be about ghost guns. We didn't get into this last time. We decided to exclude that for an entire, first of all, I don't even know anything. I don't even know much about it. Other than, although I mentioned it to like the guy that was here, I said, yeah, I'm going to do a video today on ghost guns. he's like, oh, yeah, the 3D printers. And I was like, like, everybody seems to know about this. Well, it was a big deal in, like, the media when you were in Coleman.

I'm surprised you didn't see it on the news, honestly. But I saw it. I just didn't. Like, when you started explaining to it, to me, I was like, oh, yeah, yeah. I remember that, but I didn't think it was like a big deal. Remember that was going to be a concern. Yeah, it was a big deal. So, I mean, I blame the media because, like, until I.

saw it on the news i didn't i didn't think i thought 3d printed guns were like because in like the early days they were just they would blow up in your hand like they were a joke right i mean the last five or six years like i mean it's come a long way and there's all all kinds of cool stuff out there explain this to me explain me how does that how does that work um just the whole process or yeah well how did you get into it like how did you how did it start well i mean i've been shooting guns since i was like five or six years old like with my dad right and um once i moved to colorado i was i was 21 when i moved here so i was able to i went got my colorado colorado i could just go right to the store and buy guns so i bought a glock i bought

an ar um is there a waiting is there a waiting period there is now but at that point you just go in background check takes like 10 15 minutes you know and just go walk around the store then you walk right out with your gun okay yeah so um that was like honestly one of the first things i did here when bought my Glock when bought an AR um which i was living in this house with like five or six other girls it's like we're all in golf we're all going to CSU and i got in trouble because like one of the girls would steal everyone's clothes. She stole my clothes, too. And she would fight with the other girls.

And then she's like, well, I'm going to break into Dave's room and steal his guns. And, like, I was just like, oh, my God. So, yeah, that was drama. But, yeah, I've had guns, like, pretty much the whole time I lived here. But then, like, when COVID started, I was, like, I was believing, like, the fucking shit in the news, like, oh, the world's going to end. Like, the U.S. post office is going to close down. And I was like, when that happens, it's Armageddon.

so I got to be prepared and yeah at that point I only had like I had a Springfield XD 45 which is just like a 45 caliber pistol that's not enough no not for Arrengaden no I only have like a 15 round magazine so what's that going to do yeah so you get it will kill so many zombies but I ended up getting an AR pistol like a 300 do you know anything about guns no i did have a concealed weapons permit and i remember you saying that you had like a sig right yeah i had a um no i had a like yeah like a smith and wesson i had a smith and wesson i had a smith and wesson huh i thought you said it was a six hour no i had i had like a smith and wesson nine millimeter and i had a a 350 37 um you know revolver that were both all both were smith and wessons

That's, I think that's all, that's it. And, and, you know, like, once I, I think I went to the gun range, maybe five or six times. And that was it. It was over. And I was lost interest. I almost never carried them anywhere. I mean, I was like, kept them in my house, you know. And then when I, you know, when I got in trouble the first time, they told me I couldn't have a gun. I, like, gave him away. Yeah, that's what happened with me, too. But I'm surprised because, like, pretty much everyone, I know from Florida are like Devoroli like they were like just fucking strapped to the teeth. Yeah. I mean, I had them. I knew how to use them, but I wasn't. You know, and I just, when I took the concealed weapons permit, like the one thing the instructor really, really pushed was, listen, don't go anywhere you think you need a gun. Right. Yeah. That's good advice. And it's like any, you know, and then it was also like, you know, like if you go to collect rent and you have your gun, like, that's a problem. Even if it's concealed. Like you, you, what if, what if something happens? Cop shows up and you go, I've got my gun. So you came to collect rent with your gun. Now you've got an issue. Like there were all

these things that I thought, the more I thought about it, the more I thought, what am I doing? And it's funny too, because I remember when he went around the class, like, why do you want a gun? Oh, almost everybody in there was like, you know, similar to this. You know, sometimes I go into a bad neighborhood or sometimes. And I remember mine was one time I'd gone to the movies in this kind of sketchy neighborhood and there were some guys that were kind of hanging around the corner where my car was and I started thinking fuck like I don't I could get robbed and I wanted my a gun and he said and I remember the instructor said when you went to that movie theater did you know it was in sketchy neighborhood I said oh yeah I go there every once in a while he goes okay so now you think you still want to go to the movie theater but you want to be able to have your gun I said yeah and he goes Why would you go to the movie theater in a sketchy neighborhood where you think you need a gun? He said, that's not going to play well. Right. He said, that's not going to play well if you have to pull it out and use it.

You think, oh, I'll pull it out and I can use it. But if you end up in front of a judge and a jury and they say, it's in a bad neighborhood, you went there with your gun in a bad neighborhood. Why? Why didn't you just go to another theater? Like, he explained, and the more that you talk about it, you start thinking, yeah, I know that's a shitty neighborhood. Why did I go there? Like, what am I doing? You know, so I remember after that, there were all these things that all the reasons I wanted a gun made me think were just so, you know, it was like all ego, right?

And it was like, you know what? like keep it in your his whole thing boiled down to this keep it at your office keep it at your house if someone breaks into your office or your house use the gun yeah don't hesitate use the gun but honestly if you want to walk around and carry it like a tough guy so you can't wait to pull it out like you're telling you right now you're going to end up in prison yeah for sure you know and so at that point i was like yeah fuck it i stuck it in like a drawer and forgot about it didn't carry it for years i mean i always kept one in my truck like i had a judge yeah like to move it from one place or another i had one at the office one in my house periodically i might put it in the

in the dash yeah but that was i i did first of all it's florida you know how hard it is to walk around with a concealed weapon in florida yeah right and have it really concealed yeah no it's almost impossible of course now you can just carry it yeah open carry yeah yeah yeah But yeah, I kept the judge in my truck, which is like a shotgun revolver. It's a revolver that shoots like 410 shotgun. Right. So I felt like that was an appropriate like car weapon because, you know, if they're close, I had these nasty rounds for it too.

They shot like little, they're called PDX ones and they shot like copper plates with like buckshot BBs behind them. And like the plates make a tight spread and then the BBs do a widespread. So they just, they're like designed. designed to kill people. But yeah, that was my car, my car gun. And then, yeah, I'd keep an AR pistol at my grow and then my 45 at my house. So I had the same mentality, but I also open carried everywhere during COVID. Go to Home Depot, the grocery store, gas station. I always had it on my hip. But I mean, in Colorado, I blend in. Like, you know, I'm driving a F-150. I got work boots on,

a flannel shirt and I got a fucking pistol on my head. Like, no one questioned me. Everyone's like, did you have your concealed carry when you're, like, was it you always telling the story to? And you're like, did you have your concealed carry at that time? Someone, I was telling the story to someone, they're like, did you have your concealed carry? I was like, bro, I was on felony

probation. Oh, my God. Yeah. Bro, I thought the world is going to end. I was like, you're not going to tell me I can't carry a fucking done. And in reality of it didn't end. What's that? It didn't end. No, it didn't end. I also didn't get arrested, but it was, so I would have gone to fucking prison.

It was an unregistered gun. Like, I couldn't have it. Yeah, it would have been bad. But yeah, so that was during COVID, and I was just like, I can't go buy guns because I'm a felon. And I have this pistol. I have this AR. I should probably tell you how I got the pistol. because I couldn't buy guns.

So, like, this is, like, the only time my life I didn't have any guns. And my buddy died, and he was, like, a big Coke dealer. So me and two of my buddies, just calling Bert and Ernie, we go and get his safe out of his house after he died so that, you know, the cops didn't get it and open it and find a brick of blow or something. and so the one guy at Burt put it in his storage unit and he went to go do something so he gave me and Ernie the key to his storage unit and we're like all right we're going to go pick up the safe and take it back to my place and crack it open so we go to the storage unit open it grab the safe there's another safe there grab it um go back to my house and Ernie's like I've done this before like I got this I got my tools we're good here's a fucking ram set do you know what a ram set is

no it's it's basically like you use it to drive nails uh to like uh nail pressure treated two by fours to concrete so it drives the nail into the concrete it uses like a 22 caliber like cartridge you know what you're talking about yeah yeah yeah he hit it with a hammer yeah so he has one those he has like one of those shitty lock pick guns and like the the the clear plastic lock where you can see the pins and just like a shitty riobe circular saw with like a metal blade i'm just like brus isn't going to work and his first attempt was to knock we started on the small safe he's going to knock the hinges out with the ram set and he's like get ready bro this 's going to be loud and i'm like i've used the ram set before bro just fucking do it like this isn't

going to work boom does it nothing so his next idea is i actually actually, I was like, dude, just grab that crowbar and just start trying to pry it. Yeah. You know, it's a fucking $100 safe. It's a piece of shit. Right. When Bert sees this, he's going to laugh. But, um, so we're, I'm sitting there.

I think I'm just smoking a cigarette, just like watching him struggle because he's like, I'm the safecracker. I got this. So I'm like, all right, bud. Just do what you do. And he's like, he's almost got it open. Like the prying it open was working. And fucking Ernie, or Bert.

comes in and he's like to keep in mind our friend just died so we're like hysteric messes we're all crying and shit and he walks in he's like what do you guys do and that's my safe and we're like oh shit we we didn't realize we thought they were both our other buddies saved that died right he's like fuck it just i haven't even opened that thing in so long i don't even know it's inside so he busted open and it's just like two or three ounces of this horrible hash that he was using to make edibles with we all got a good laugh out of it my dad was cracking up. And so we're like, all right, let's move on to the gun safe. And it was like a Liberty gun safe with like a digital keypad. And so I was like, well, your little lockback gun is not

going to do much. And we're not going to use the RAM set. So we got to cut it open. And he starts using his Ryobi circular saw. It's just, it's not working. So I'm like, bro, just let me do this, please. So I had like a nice Milwaukee fuel angle grinder. And I start cutting, I flipped it over on the side and start cutting out the bottom. And it was working like real easy. Like, hey, this is not an instructional video on how to crack safe by the way. Right. Just my disclaimer. So I cut the bottom out and you know, I had like the shelves and safes. They're like sheet rock, like three quarter inch sheetrock. Right. So I bust out the bottom shelf and it's just a bunch of ammunition, like a couple thousand rounds of like there's nine millimeter, 45, 556, 562. I think there's some 12

gauge in there. So start pulling all that out and then break through the next shelf and it's just like full of cash. And I started pulling it out. I think it was 20s. So they're like bands of 20s like that. And I'm like inside this safe because I'm little, you know, your size. So I got the, I was like the tunneler in Vietnam, you know, going into the tunnels first. So I go in and I'm pulling out these stacks of fucking money and handing them to the guys behind me. It ends up being like 32 grand in there in 20s. So we divvied that up. Then I bust through the last shelf and there was a gun gun case in there

and it was our buddy's like his only gun that he had and no I wanted to keep it because it was like it had sentimental value to me because we would shoot it in his fucking basement all drunk and like shoot it camping and stuff you know smoking DMT shooting the guns

and then so yeah so I was like damn that's like the only thing I have to remember this kid by so I kept that and they were like all roommates want the gun i was like they can come and get it so i kept that and uh so i now had a gun again and then i acquired the other one through someone that owed me money the ar 15 right which was sweet it was chambered in 300 blackout which is an awesome round and uh so i had those too but i was like this just isn't enough man like i i i live in a nice fucking neighborhood like they're

going to be coming you know it's going to be bad so i see like the what did you think was going to happen i the looters were going to come and try to take our food and our our women and you know it's looters do what looters do so i just i just want to be prepared you know so i see all these news stories about the ghost guns and like how it's this big problem and like they have these kits called polymer 80 kits and it's basically like a block frame and you have it comes with the drill bits you have to drill out a couple holes where like the pins go to hold the trigger in place and you like file down a couple pieces like where the barrel goes takes me i took i did them in like 15 20 minutes like they're super easy to make um so i did that at first and you still have to go buy all the

like the other parts but all the the only part that is considered the firearm that you need to do a background check for is the frame so you get around that by making the frame these P80 kits and then you could just I would just walk into the gun store and just or gun show and buy all the other parts I needed the barrel the slide the trigger all the internals um which was expensive but I wasn't buying cheap parts so like they were like thousand dollar clocks um 1500 two thousand dollar blocks but um eventually I'm like I want to look into this 3D printing shit because that sounds like pretty cool So I looked at the new designs, and, like, they were pretty sick.

So I found this one design, and it's called, like, the FGC 9, that fuck gun control 9. And it was designed by this German dude who went by Jay Stark. He was young. He was, like, probably 25, when 26, maybe, when he released the design. And he actually ends up dying. under like sketchy circumstances like the german um think the bdf the german um special intelligence agency they found out that he was the one pushing these 3d printed gun designs uh so they raided his house but they didn't find anything illegal nothing to do with firearms nothing

so they they couldn't arrest him two days later he dies of a heart attack in front of his house what do you think about that how old was he 28 when he died sketchy right yeah very suspect yeah and the only like news article that said they tried to say he had like a like a birth defect in his heart

like it was like he had heart disease but the only place that said that was like this tabloid-esque fucking German newspaper So I think they killed him. But he was a good dude, and he just believed in freedom of speech and that everyone should have their right to defend themselves. That's not freedom of speech. That's the right to bear arms.

Well, no, but putting out the designs and how to do it is freedom of speech. Okay. Yeah, the Supreme Court tried to shut these guys down for putting out these plans. Right. It was too late. They hit the internet, right? They were. Yeah.

So the ATF tried to shut them down. And they took it to the Supreme Court and won. And the Supreme Court's like, no, this is, they have the right to put this stuff out there. But once someone makes the gun, then it's a crime. Right. So there's tons of these gun plans out there for free. Just all you have to do is Google it. Like, it's accessible information.

And so anyway, so this guy, Jay Stark, designed this gun, the FGC 9. The FGC9 was developed for people in countries where they don't have access to any gun parts. All you need is a 3D printer and like a couple of pieces of metal, some screws from Home Depot, and you can make a 9mm carbine, and it fucking works. It took Glock magazines, which you can also 3D print. It uses like, you know, AR buffer springs, AR fire control group, like the trigger and stuff. so like you can you can use gun parts in it but you don't need them so it was like revolutionary like now people that don't have access to to gun parts or gun stores can make a real gun so i was

like i want to do that so i went on craigslist what he's shaking your head about you just can't you just can't you just can't you i'm right now bro i'm doing good now okay that's all it matters so I go on Craigslist and I buy a couple 3D printers and it's not as it's not just like oh you get a 3D printer you download the plans and you fucking print a gun like 3D printing is hard bro it's like it's a skill it's an art form so I get these 3D printers and I start doing like calibration prints and it took me a while to like dial it in and be able to just print like a fucking little toy right so eventually it took like few months it was hard and um yeah eventually i i got to the point where i started doing the prints i started off with a a glock frame because that was easier and it took some dialing in but i eventually got it down so i start uh 3d printing the fgc 9 which is like it's broken down into like 30 different parts that you have to print you get to print the stock the upper receiver the lower receiver just everything the bolt carrier so it's it took me a couple

weeks to like print all these different parts and then i had to go source the metal you need like a metal bar for the bolts um a little i forgot i think you used like an allen wrench for like the the slot or the thing you like cock it with and um it was it was like a pretty ingenious design. It was cool. Use like J.B. Weld to make the firing pin. So eventually I got it together and it fucking it worked. I printed this modification for it where it used a Glock barrel because otherwise you have to take like a piece of metal tube and then you 3D print the design of the rifling. You put that into the metal tube and then you hook like electrodes up to the metal

tube. I might be going into too much detail here, but I'm sure some gun freaks will you know. Right. It was super complicated to do it with, but it was easier with the block barrel. They came up, these kids, they're kids, bro.

They're brilliant. They came up with this way to rifle a piece of metal with like actual usable rifle. And you pump salt water through the piece of metal and then the electrical current that you're pumping into the metal it makes the salt water eat away at the design that you 3D print the design it was

sick but i didn't have time for that it was really hard to do i tried to do it and it was it was really complicated so i just used the glock barrel and it worked great um and yeah this thing took clock magazines. I had a 50 round drum that I used for it. I had a red dot site. It had a rail system on it that you could use any optic that you'd normally use on an AR on this. So this thing was slick. And then you could print different like hand guards. They had all different types of mods for it. So you could use like an AR-15 stock instead of the 3D printed one. So that was the first one and I like I fully 3D printed and it was it was just so cool to be able to you know make a fucking gun out of a bunch of plastic it cost me like $15 maybe in plastic

to print so that thing and they've seized those all over the world and like militia groups use them like it's a really popular design um and I actually misspoke it was the FGC 9 Mark 2 that I did because the mark one was a little less refined. So I did that and then I start 3D printing like Glock frames and they have all different designs that you can print into the grit. So I had one with like a Mayan calendar on it. One with I think it was like a dragon. They're sick.

They look like some cartel guns, you know? Like you could do like Day of the Dead shit on it. And I'm getting like all these. I'm getting like $300 triggers, like red dot sites, Zeptek barrels. And have you heard of Zeptek? No. No.

No. Just like high end Glock aftermarket parts. So like none of my Glocks have any Glock parts because Glock parts aren't the best. So I'm doing like, they call them 0% Glocks because none of the parts are actual Glock. Just the basic design. Just the design, which is an amazing design. by the way. I love the Glock 19 and the Glock 17. Well, what are you doing with these things?

Shooting them, bro. Like, at first, it was just like, I need guns to protect my castle. And then it's just like, I just got addicted to shooting them, bro. I was, this during COVID. So, like, 9 mil was like a dollar, fuck. It was like a dollar 20 around or something crazy. So I got like $100 a day brass habit, bro. Like, I'm just fucking chewing through ammo. And ammo is hard to get at this point because you go in 9 mil is super popular so the shelves are just cleaned out so i'm just buying up like going to every gun store in town buying up ammo and just going out every day after work and just fucking shooting for you know 30 40 minutes which you go through yeah we got 50 round magazines that's you know 65

to fill a 50 round magazine takes about four minutes to shoot one and i was also yeah i don't know if i should be admitting a lot of this stuff edit this out if you think it's bad but um don't say it because i'm not going to edit it i'm going to say it they can't it's there's no evidence to prove i'm telling the truth i'm just making shit up right now but i was 3d printing uh they call it a switch and you put it on the i'm not going to tell you how to install it because that's against the community guideline but super easy to install and it makes it turns your Glock into a full auto right and this is like a print that takes like 15 minutes to print like it was a joke did you ever see that kid that put a he put like I don't know if it was a Glock whatever like a nine millimeter

he put it on a drone and you could fire the drum so he had a drone and they would hover and he they he did a video that went viral and he put it on the drone and then the drone hovers in front of a um maybe 15 or 20 feet away from a uh a target and he fires he fires at it boom boom and the drone like does this boom oh my buddy just pulled it up boom yeah i have a colby now wow that's fucking you know what they call that in america domestic terrorism that i was gonna say yeah that's exactly so he thought he was super cool right not not yeah it is just a kid and and then of course the ATF come. He didn't come, bro.

That's fucking crazy. I'm saying he didn't even try and hide like who he was, like put it on his own channel. They just came to his door and like, what are you, what are you doing? And he's like, what? That is cool. Oh my God. Yeah, God. I think he got in trouble too.

I think he got in trouble for it. Yeah, I would. But he wasn't thinking, you know, he just thought, hey, look how cool this is. like yeah i mean i get it but it's it's even super illegal to drop stuff from a drone like my one buddy bert he would drop fucking drive blunts over to his homie's house in the neighborhood drop that shit's fucking illegal as fuck oh yeah there's guys that are doing it with drugs taking drones and flying them and but when you're weaponizing drones on u.s soil it's bad news they have a problem with that yeah

No, I don't get it, but it, you know, I'm not going to question it. The guys who are making the laws, they're competent. They know what they're doing. I trust them. So you're preparing for the zombie apocalypse. Yeah, I have my full auto glocks with drum magazines, because that's practical. And I'm also 3D printing suppressors, which is, what? It's not good.

Hey, if I do something, bro, I go all in. So, how many of these things did you make? Well, it got to the point where I had it so dialed, I would just be like, eh, I kind of want a different color one. So I just order a different color and just, I had a bins of them, bro. No, no pink. I did purple. Baby blue.

Baby blue was my favorite. It was called azure blue. And it was like this sparkly baby. It was sick, though. And, yeah, black, orange, just like 3D printed gun guys. like they like to do like wacky colors you know right so yeah i was just getting all different and i was getting different materials so like normally i'd use pla which is like cheap and durable that's like what a lot of people it's easy to print but then i got into like i got carbon fiber nylon

which is just super durable super difficult to print um ABS these are uh filaments that you can't print with a normal cheap 3D printer. So I ended up getting super into the 3D printing part too. I have like five 3D printers, like top of the line ones. They're enclosed. So that allows you to use filaments that need a higher ambient temperature to print like ABS carbon fiber, that kind of shit. So I'm just making them for fun basically not. I wasn't like I didn't need more. I literally had like totes full of 3D printed shit. You're not selling them on the dark web? No.

No. Was that convincing? So did you feel you were prepared for the apocalypse is what I'm saying? Did you have enough to feel like I've got this? No. Never got to that point. No. I'm one of those guys that's.

like just never satisfied. I always got to push the envelope. And so I ended up being able to get legitimate guns to supplement my collection with. And I got like a Kimber 1911, a PS 90. Have you ever played Call of Duty? No. No. No. I mean, I just got out of prison and, you know, I've got other things to do i didn't have a lucrative i didn't have a lucrative uh i didn't have a lucrative uh uh hash business you know that allowed me call duty in like 10 years but that allowed me 10 hours a day to play i wish bro yeah you were just writing fucking fake or making fake mortgages and yeah you you had no I had things to do.

I was working 15 hours a day where I was working 100 hour weeks but back in the day in like middle school I would play call of duty so I knew all the call of duty guns so I got like a 5-7 FM 5-7 FMPS 90

Scorpion Evo I had a bunch of like pretty cool guns. I had like a 7 millimeter REM mag like hunting rifle which is like they're like 7 millimeter REM bag is a gnarly round

but yeah I had like a couple AR uppers that I went and bought because you could just buy those without a background check and then I print the lowers so I had a few ARs I actually had a 45 ACP

Banshee which is CMMG makes them and it was like a $1,600 AR it was pretty sick took Glock magazines that was when I felt ready I was ready at that point. I had a nice collection. And I was still

3D-frenching shit for fun. And then they lifted the restrictions. You were like, oh, man. Yeah. And I was just like, well, at least I have all these guns to shoot. So, but ammo was still fucking expensive. So that was still, that was like what I was spending most of my money on was ammo at that point. And, yeah, I mean, what? I was going to say Boziac was so convinced that the entire supply chain was going to break down. He, he, we went out and spent $300 on like, uh, um, top ramen, you know, soup and water and canned, uh, canned, uh, canned white chicken breasts and, huh? I hate the canned white chicken.

I love it. And we bought all this stuff and then nothing happened. So now I've just got a bunch of boxes and boxes of, doomsday we drink all the water boziak eats that shit up bro like i heard him a couple on i think it was you guys went on concrete oh him he he he really will and he's so convincing he were really convince you that like something like you know you don't understand like all the like the chinese are going to do this and the all the power plants or you know he'll go on and on he's so overly convincing and now I realize it just, no matter what he says, it's just like, okay, all right.

Yeah, you say, that's not going to happen. Yeah, you're like, this is the present. Yeah, you can't, you can't let him watch these videos. You really need to take him away from him because he'll go on a two-day bender on some subject and he'll know everything about it and then he'll walk around, talk about how the world's going to end, you know, and then a week later, he's on to something else and you're like, okay, well, it didn't end. you were so sure yeah i know i don't know what i was thinking well i mean yeah but i mean he's not

as bad as like don't get me wrong like he seems like a cool guy i'm not knocking him but you know people fall down down those rabbit holes and but some of them aren't like nearly as informed like he actually like sounds convincing because he does a ton of research because he he sits around the tattoo parlor 10 or 12 hours a day and just watches these videos. Do you know who Canadian prepper? I've heard Boziak talking about him. Yeah. He loves him. Loves him. Yeah. And that guy. That guy's insane too. He's always telling you about how things are about the end and this. And then it doesn't happen. He just never addresses it again. He moves on to another subject. It's like, wait a second. You said Washington was about to be taken over by the military.

what happened to that that might still happen bro that was last week things have changed now we're concerned about this asteroid it's coming towards the other what are you talking about now we're talking to the Russians are invading yeah but I mean

when guys like that say it I'm like you're a conspiracy theorist nut but when Bustamante says China is gonna like I believe that shit fucking wholeheartedly he's he's got me scared shitless of china bro you're not buying it either well i i mean i don't know what what his take on china is what what is it

oh bro what's you haven't listened to the the uh one he did with um sean ryan or the one he did with julian i don't listen to those guys i don't listen and i watch youtube barely i watch stuff i watch stuff about like mars and you got to make time to watch gustamante's stuff bro because it is i mean it's compelling. I get it, but I mean, like, what's he talking about? Is it talking about China? Is it talking about an invasion of Taiwan? That's part of it. Okay. But it's just how like China is setting up these. They'll go into a country. I don't want to misspeak here, but this is the gist of it. They go into a country and they say, hey, we'll give you money to set up

this port. We'll do the construction. We'll give Chinese people to work it. And we'll get in exchange for like a hundred year lease on the port we get to use it and we'll you know you guys can use it whatever and then he's saying that when shit hits the fan they're going to turn that into like a like a military right and they have those all over the world yeah so i know that not through boostamante but through just listening to other people generals and other um other like scientists and stuff talking about, you know, political scientists and stuff talking about how they, or they'll lend money to a country that can't pay it back. And then when they can't pay it back, they go in and they just take it over.

And now they own a piece of their, they own the piece of their country. Yeah. So. But the way they go about it is like, hey, we're your friends. We're going to help you. Here's some money. So people want their. And there are countries that we won't work with for whatever their political views aren't

aligned with ours. The Belton Road initiative, right? exactly that that whole thing and but also like they well i think it's it's something crazy like the number of law students in the u.s like the amount of them that are chinese immigrants they get their law degrees here and then they go they get jobs like i don't even think it's just law but they get jobs in the banks here um the government like all kinds of shit and and then they go back China to work for like three months and come back and it's like what do they do when they go back who are they reporting to right it sounds kind of crazy but it's like you make it sound like

the chinese are underhanded like they would steal our intellectual property or not against us that's that would never happen that's so that's so unlike the chinese they're good people they make iPhones right exactly they make everything they make friends they make films they make they made the last what was the panda movie Kung Fu Panda they made the last Kung Fu Panda they're good people yeah no one of no one of fear

no and yeah I can't wait until they invade Taiwan we see how that goes I'm thinking it's going to go bad for them I think Bustamante was saying that it was going to be over no it was going to be like a bloodless

war like they're yeah I haven't watched it in a long seriously doubt that Taiwanese have been preparing for that forever and I don't see the United States letting the Chinese get a stranglehold on

on the you know the microchipper silicon chips or whatever it's the processors or whatever I don't see them letting the Chinese

semi conduct semi-conductors i don't let them i don't see the u.s letting them get a whole getting a strangle hold on 80% of the world's semi-conductors yeah no i'm feeling like biden will step right in just like he did in Syria when uh they started using chemical weapons he's going to step right in put his foot down this is the line that they can't cross can you sense the sarcasm he didn't he did in in uh in ukraine no he didn't he's giving them are fucking stockpiles of old shit and there's no u.s troops on the ground no but no i think i listen they've got boats over there now they're going to trust me they're already

sending troops in they send advisors in they they're giving them weapons yeah it's a proxy war bro we're i don't have a problem with a proxy war yeah but that's not him stepping in well i don't think the united states well no i actually think the united states may get involved into the tai in the Taiwan. The problem is this, is that if the Chinese try and invade Taiwan, it will take about two or three days for the U.S. to get our carriers there. Oh, yeah. So if they can defeat them in two or three days, now you've got a problem. Well, they're saying that the Taiwanese can hold up for a few days. Right. That's the whole thing is can you hold out long enough for us to get there. And then will the Chinese go head to head with the U.S. doubtful.

they're not going to they don't want to take that on and not just that we all we have to do is put um is embargo and and they're going to be starving to death in six months stop ships from going there they got a problem they can't feed themselves yeah but i mean the rich will be able to feed like it's going to be the villagers and the you know the poor people that they can't mean i don't think they're too concerned about that we'll see we'll see we'll see how it plays out we got a few more year or two uh boostamante predicts that it's going to be before the biden administration ends so we got less than a year we'll see a little over a year but yeah we'll see i don't feel like i'm nearly qualified enough i haven't watched enough youtube oh i'm i'm certainly not

yeah this is just me just and i all my knowledge comes from youtube which is even worse anybody can post a youtube video yeah but i mean boostamante to me is a credible source of that type of information. You know, I don't believe everything he says, but he makes some very, very good points. I think he's still working for the CIA. This is misinformation. Very, very, very possible.

They sent them out here. They probably still have them on the page, on the payroll. This is the disinformation we want you to put out there. Got it. This is the narrative we want you to push. yeah i mean it's possible he does say some things that i could see them not wanting him to say but maybe that's just to make us think that's just yeah part of it like to go that and make it more credible

yeah exactly that shit let's you sprinkle some of this out there just to make you seem more credible now he's definitely not going to call you back no no i i think i'll ever talk to him in. But anyways, where were we? You're making silencers? Oh, yeah. Drop-in on the internet. You don't need to make bump stocks, bump stocks, because you can just make a drop-in

auto sear, which, you know what that is? No. Okay, I can't talk about how you install it, but it's basically a drop-in piece that converts a semi-automatic AR into a full auto A-R. And it takes about 20 minutes to print. And I've never used one, but I heard they work really well. But, yeah, so. This whole thing feels like a fresh indictment, a federal indictment to me.

That's what I was saying, bro. Like, I should be doing the 30 piece in the feds right now. But thank God, the cops are either lazy or incompetent. nobody's going to recognize you because you have the glasses on the sunglasses yeah exactly you're good you're good there's no evidence of any of this stuff i mean it's i understand i hear you i hear you um my two a buddies will have my back if anything does happen i need you to start a go fund me for my i'll put money on your books i got you all right perfect you got you you're going to be good we'll do another podcast over the jail phone Yeah, you'll get a contraband cell phone in the camp.

Well, you're probably, you didn't probably go to a low with that. This is definitely a low. Really? Yeah, just, you know, anytime guns are involved, they have an issue. Why wouldn't guns send you to like a medium or a pen? I mean, it's possible, but this is simply, and there are, you know, there is no actual guns. right so none of this happened bro it's all just telling stories over here just a guy telling stories so what so okay i got it so so you were ready and then nothing ever happened

yeah this whole thing it's just silliness and you you what happened with all these three printers you sell them or you throw them away would you were you disappointed but when i got rated I had they there's pictures of my discovery of I had a room we had a spare bedroom that I made into my office and I had all my printers set up in there I think I had like three when I got raided so they're in the landfill somewhere were you disappointed that the entire thing didn't come

honestly yeah I know I feel like Boziac is disappointed that the entire economy and just like the supply chain. I feel like he's genuinely disappointed that the entire system hasn't collapsed because he has told me in the last two years, I have heard at least seven or eight different times where he has told me that the entire system is about to collapse. And he is, this never happened. He's genuinely disappointed when they pull it off and it doesn't collapse.

yeah i mean i put so much effort into preparing for it to collapse and it didn't and i'm just like i can't get that time back have you pulled guns have you ever watched these guys the um the preppers the june's day preppers yes doomsday preppers yeah of course love that show bro if i had the money i'd be living on a fucking bottle land off the grid an armory like a walk-in safe with just guns all over the place crazy security systems like indoor outdoor range i'd be ready bro but i don't have that kind of money right now so listen my my i watched it and my favorite one was the guy that had dropped he dropped like shipping container crates in a big square like he had a whole compound i don't know how how he he pulled all this off he had canned goods he had um

canned like fruits and all kinds of stuff he had a whole system this guy could literally live for years in the compound and he had a water just uh i want to say distillery what do they call it uh where you can clean you yeah like clean water you could from the rain you could and reverse osmosis probably tons of bottled water he had um what do you call um he had solar He had a gas or a diesel generator. Yeah, that's what I meant by off the grid. Like, you know, solar panels, wind turbines, all that stuff. And like my whole, I've always wanted an underground bunker.

Always. And there's a, there's a guy on YouTube that built one in his backyard in England. Oh, the shipping container? Like a connex with a connex? Like a shipping container. No, no, no. This was. You built a real one?

real one yeah i mean i've contacted because like before i got rated i had money and i contacted there's a company out here that builds them and i was going to do like a like a little one it was like 80 grand um concrete they come in all discreet um they pull the permits like it was legit and uh that didn't end up happening in time but i was like this close bro to having my dream come true i was going to have a gun room in it a little sleeping area a little tv video game area it was going to be sick but yeah was it there's another youtube guy that makes stuff or it's the same guy that made the underground um bunker he made like a like a hovercraft uh like a motorcycle hovercraft he made all kinds of stuff he's got like in the triple x uh the like second

or third triple x movie the third one garbage movie by the way don't watch it i haven't watched this they have those i did watch the second one with uh ice cube no the second one had ice cube i don't know about the third the first one had then diesel second one had ice cube right third one had been diesel again but it was trash yeah well i never watched that one yeah don't they had a hovercraft they had hovercraft maybe were they hovercraft they just like converted from a motorcycle to like a water like a jet ski

like with a button and just like skis popped out and they're just like racing each other in the fucking water is so cool that's stupid you know but I mean some guy actually pulled off making a hovercraft motorcycle that's pretty impressive oh it's very cool very cool yeah he's got a bunch of things he's got like

flame throwers you know he's got Elon must it that's old news I'm sorry Elon Musk No You haven't seen that? No Alex

Pull up Elon Musk Flamethrower You got What are you This is my buddy Fannie Pacchio By the way What's up man

What's going on Is that the halfway house With me You're like This is your Colby They call him Fannie Packiao Because he always has

This little Fanny Pack Full of goodies Hold on um what hovercraft fire experts criticize Elon Musk's flamethrower yeah just Google Elon Musk

flamethrower and it comes right up yeah I can't believe you didn't see this bro like everyone like in like whatever office he's working in they all have them they're like super easy to make well see this wasn't a hovercraft this was a I thought we were talking about

no this uh oh this one's pretty cool all these guys are this is the same guy that did none of these are it well this one's cool of course this is so here's

what let's go this is the guy who did the um bunker in the backyard oh oh here it is this is the guy backyard underground bunker tour he shows how he made

an underground backyard. And I'm pretty sure he's English. Texted to me. Look at it. You got to see this, though. Look at this. Bro, you might have to have Colby, like, crop this in. This is so sick, bro.

Wait. Is it playing? Oh, here. Turn around. Oh, here we go. Other way. Elon Musk for president. in 2028.

Oh, yeah, he's the best, right? He wasn't born here anymore. You've never seen this? No. He's just walking around like the office with a fucking flamethrower? Unfortunately, Elon Musk was not born here

so he can't run for president. I thought Barack Obama wasn't born here. That's not true. Don't do that. What is this guy? This is the guy. Is this the hospital? hoverboard. I want to send you the hoverboard one for this guy.

Pretty. Yeah, I just sent you the one. Yeah, I just got it. Did you hear it? The ding? The ding? Yeah. Yeah, he's definitely English. Yeah, it sounds like it. Okay, so that's that one. I'm continually, I'm still looking for the one.

Fire breathing backpack? That's fucking. Awesome. This guy makes all kinds of amazing things. Oh, by the way, you can 3D print a flamethrower. He uses diesel fuel. Pretty nice. He uses diesel. I didn't do it.

I like my skin on my body. What is this? Come on. Oh, yeah. Then he made this arm-mounted hydraulic jaws where you cut through stuff. Like jaws of life. Yeah, exactly. You could, like, cut through.

Oh, he's got these. Look, real hydraulic, scissor lift shoes. I need those. What else does he have? Come on. He's got so many. You know, so funny is I remember sending a bunch of these to Jess. Because when I found his channel, I was so like, oh, my God, this guy's amazing.

Is he selling those hydraulic lift shoes? You and I could use a pair. I don't think he's selling them. He made a full. Full-sized tie fighter from Star Wars. Stop it. Full size. It's amazing. It's so cool looking.

Is this guy like a mechanical engineer by trade? I don't know. Listen, his YouTube channel is insane. Like every video, 3.8 million views. 1.8 million. 4.2 million. 4.7 million. Every video. Yeah, I'm subscribing for sure. Yeah, you got to look for that.

I can't find it right now. but the hovercraft that he makes you know it's like it's like a bicycle that just hovers like he can he hovers and can fly around like it was it's insane and he explains how like it was trial and error and eventually he figured it out and he shows himself you know and he'll show you everything how he did it and everything is it's insane that's amazing oh here it is oh homemade hover what is hover bike that's what it was

I dude I wonder if we could have those at the halfway house the hover bike we can have bikes look it's like a hover path but yeah

god bro you have to see this this thing is insane text it to me 51 million views I just text it to us not more 51 million views.

Oh, yeah, we can't have that at the halfway house. This guy, I've never met a guy more prepared for the apocalypse. This guy, it's, yeah, it's, and even, even his bunker, it's hidden. Like, it's like a little trap door. You'd never know it. You've got a rug, you pull it apart, open the trap door. And the trap door is in a, it's in like a little shed in the back. Yeah, that was my plan.

I was going to do a shed and then just like have the floor lift up, like hidden under a rug. And so you climb down the stairs. and then you walk through a tube and there's a door and you open the door and it's this huge room. Yeah, it's probably like the corrugated drain pipe, right? Like those giant...

Yeah, that's what that was exactly what I was going to do. Yeah, he's got an amazing... I got to link up to that guy. Yeah. He's ready. Yeah, back to the 3D printed stuff. The flamethrower made me think about all the new shit because I went on and looked at the designs

that they've released since I stopped. And I mentioned the hand grenade last time you just it's like with black powder and ball bearings it's like i don't i'm never going to need that but i guess if the world was ending it might not be bad to have but these are like you know 30 40 minute prints and you got that fucking hand grenade like that's a problem i don't i don't really support that kind of information being out there they have 3 printed rocket launchers um i mean all kinds of shit bro it's it's insane it's come so dirty world war z yeah that was actually just on the halfway house last week

it's a great movie I don't like zombie movies are you serious yeah no I love you're a walking dead fan I love walking dead but my problem with World War Z is that the zombies were so fast

like I don't feel like I could get away from those zombies I need zombies that are manageable yeah you know that I feel like I got a chance you know the World War Z guys no you don't have a chance like just any one of them but the ones any one of them would kill me but i feel like the the walking dead ones like i could i could outrun them i could outsmart i could get away away from those guys yeah they're like traditional

zombies that right let's yeah exactly i'm good with that i'm good with traditional i like a traditional what was the the first zombie movie that that one was actually good night of the walking is it walking dead night of the walking dead maybe yeah yeah yeah that was a good movie yeah they had then they had like one and two they end up hiding in like a mall I haven't seen that one. The first one, they're on, like, in a farmhouse, right? Which one are you talking about? This is, like, from the 50s.

Like, this is, like, the OG, yeah, yeah, I think they're in a farmhouse. I don't know. I'll do some research. I'll make Jeff watch them. I make her watch all kinds of stuff. She's got to be irritated. She, she, you know, it's, you know that your girlfriend's like, or your wife or your partner is, like, in love with you when she'll put up, she knows you're an

knucklehead. and she just kind of, you know, she's like, she just entertains you. She's like, okay, no, you want to watch that? Sure, I'll spend two hours watching a program that I absolutely don't want to watch. But I'll do it because I know that you want me to watch it, even though I don't want to watch this. Yeah, that sounds like it's true. She tolerates you. She tolerates me.

So she's like, okay, yeah, I'll watch, I'll watch 2001 Space Odyssey, which may very well be one of the most boring movies I've ever watched in my life, but I'll watch it. I'll watch it. You know what I want to do is someday when I get enough time, I'm going to recut. I'm going to read, I'm going to edit 2001 Space Odyssey. Have you ever seen it? Yeah. So it's an hour and a half too long. So I'm going to cut out about an hour.

I think I can cut out an hour of it and make it, make it tolerable. Yeah, that would be much improved. Yeah. But you finished Ozark, right? Or did you just start it? Okay, so I did not, I just found out that they, the last season is complete. Yeah. Oh, that's been, yeah.

Yeah. And I'm going to, I'm going to watch the last few episodes. Like, well, I watch part of it. It's so good. It's one of my favorite shows. I've watched everything except for probably the last four or five episodes. Yeah, that's a great show. Jason Bateman was amazing in that.

But you got to watch more TV, bro. You got to balance. Life's all about balance. You're all work, no play. No. She goes, I got some balance for you. I feel like I watch too. To me, TV is such, even though I, hold on.

What? I feel like it's a waste of time. I do like watching TV, but I feel like it's a waste of time. I always feel, I don't know, I always feel like I just feel like I, do you think we watch a lot of TV I think we go through spells yeah we go through spells like we'll consume

we'll spend like a week watching a series like from like let's say seven until like 830 at night like every night for like a week or two weeks and then we're done and then we have like a week where we don't watch anything at all you know or

yeah you know and then we'll get consumed by something and during let's say a Saturday we'll watch like eight episodes of something finish it off that the next throughout the week and then we're done with it and then it's and then I you know then I'll stay up till 10 o'clock at night editing and doing other stuff and then a week will go by and then we'll start watching something else and but I do I feel like it's it very much feel like it's a waste of time because I feel like I have I could be doing other things yeah that's how I think like most of the time like I just like learning

so I feel like it's more productive and I'll wake up early in the morning I wake up at like early bro like well my roommates wake me up at you know between four and five so why they what do they do they get up and go to work and then even

on the days they don't go to work they just get up early and was it halfway house guys that's the how many people are in your room uh there was 10 and then one of our roommates just went he got regressed today oh man listen this is the worst when they because it's so hard to sleep because guys are coming in late at night guys are leaving early in the morning they're completely inconsiderate banging doors slapping things knocking things down it's just like slamming yeah slamming drawers turn on the lights at five in the

morning that's my favorite how many guys were in your room um i want to say there was i think there was like nine beds there's probably eight other guys and we have 12 beds but they they keep like a couple empty but how many how many you had your own bathroom in your room right yeah how many toilets and showers there was two showers i want to say there's two toilets and one urinal that's what i i think that's true you guys have made bro we we have one toilet one shower No year. For eight or nine guys, for ten, that's nine or ten. I'm sure we'll get another, we'll get a tenth in the next couple of days.

But yeah, there was just this whole thing, this kid that we're friends with, was texting a bunch of people to get drugs. And he brought his phone into his room, which you can't do. And when that happens, they go through all your messages. And he didn't delete any of his messages. So he got five other clients jammed up. One of them was my roommate. And he had this whole plan to lie his way out of it. And they're like, no, dude, you're done.

So he's off to prison. Bro, he was in there on a charge from 2019. They gave him 18 months probation. He was about, how long was Philip in on probation a year? He was almost done with his probation. And he didn't finish his eight hours of community service. So they gave him a year in the halfway house. And he's halfway done with his halfway house, and he just gets regressed against the prison.

Yeah. Well, you know, that's just stupidity. It's just... Honestly, if he had just told the truth, he'd probably be fine. But they don't like it when you try to outsmart him. He's like, oh, they got to prove this and prove that. I'm like, bro, it's not a court of law. They don't have to prove anything.

They don't believe what you're saying. You can tell that to them, to the police officer, to the judge, to the guy, driving the bus on his way to your way to prison, the prison official, to the, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, the whole way through, you can talk about how they can't do this. Yep. And they can't. That's like Chris Marrero. Like, they can't force you to pay taxes, really. Well, you're right, they can't force you to pay it, but they can't throw you to in prison for not bang it. Yeah, exactly. They can't do this. Listen, I listened to him for like five or six. years telling me how they can't do this to him well you know i don't know about you chris but i feel like they're doing it yeah right the whole thing they can't no but they are they are you know why because you were you were at lunch this morning or today you were at dinner you were here during count you were here yesterday during count you know like it'll be here tomorrow yeah which illegal i hate me i hate the guys that are like, oh, we're, it's illegal

for them to tax us and we're entitled to all this money and blah, blah, blah. Then why are you here? Yes. Have you, do you know about gang stalking? Oh, yeah. Bro, I cannot. We don't believe that shit, right?

Gang stalking. Okay, thank God. I was going to say he can leave it. Listen, I talked to a guy that was telling me he wanted to do a video on it, how he said he'd been targeted. Fuck no, dude. It's like just paranoia, drug-induced paranoia. Like, oh, yeah, all these shop owners and business owners are going, they're taking time out of their day to make your life miserable.

Right. Yeah. So this is, this is when you're put on some list and people basically walk around and follow you and stare at you, right? And it's business owners, government people, like, upstanding cities, like, these people don't have time to fucking follow you. around and and tease you or you know i did a so i did a um i did a a a video on a guy they called the golden eyed bandit go a golden eye bandit from like uh james bond yeah from james bond he robbed like four um banks and he wore these these glasses that were rims and so they gave him the nickname the media gave him the nickname the golden eye band it anyway

after the video was over he started telling me about it he said he had to leave the united states because it was happening to him in vague and i think it was lost Vegas and then it was nonstop happening in him and he absolutely it was driving him nuts and it went on for months and months and so he finally just went to mexico and he lives in mexico now how much meth was he spoken he was heroin it may have been some meth in there but i think it was heroin but yeah he he um he was telling me about i was like i don't that doesn't even make sense like what are you i'm telling you and he went on and on about he said if you want to do a video on it we can i was like okay well let me look into it and he sent me a couple videos but it just sounds like like you said

drug induced paranoia yeah like in fort collins so there's like old town fort collins and it's like i don't know it's it's pretty old and they say that there's this tunnel system underneath Fort Collins and the gangstockers take people down there and like rape them and beat them and rock I'm like but there's no evidence of this of course just like you know hearsay but it's just everyone in jail the oh yeah gangstaer gangstock and me too bro and it's like bro you're some fucking loser with your face full of tattoos who is homeless like no one is no one cares that you exist right you're not going to fucking risk their livelihood to make your life miserable it's like they they want to make themselves feel important right exactly no it's like an ego thing like oh i'm so i'm such a menace to society that these people won't leave me alone it's the sovereign citizens it's like you never meet a sovereign citizen living in a two million dollar house driving like a hundred thousand dollar Mercedes they're always like living in a box or someone's spare room or they can't that's a million The sovereign citizen shit.

Yeah, it's like, I don't understand. Like, you never meet one where it actually works to their advantage. It's always really just something to justify their meager existence. You know, I know. I'm in the know. You're a fool. I'm a fool. I live in a nice house and I have a car.

Someone's spare room and you're taking the bus. How am I an idiot? You're paying taxes, but I can pay taxes. Yeah. you you can't feed yourself so full fridge i'm the idiot yeah i i feel yeah don't i feel silly i think i think i'm a i think i'm a citizen in the united states government you sucker yeah okay yeah right hey teach their own you know right well how that work when you went in front of the judge and you were yelling about the fucking fringe on the flag and how they can't do this to you

well at that point they they put a shock collar on me and again bag ball in my mouth. Zip tied me, my hands behind my back and I sat there while they were sentencing me going, like, you can't do this. Well, apparently they can.

Yeah, right? You got 12 years. So, yeah, I've met quite a few of those guys. Yeah, there's a few of them in the halfway house. Who's the guy? And there was a whole group of them when I first got the low, the low security prison at Coleman.

There was a group of them that used to sit in the library and they had just installed a camera in the library and they were telling me that they meet there and that when the prison found out that they have their meetings in the library they installed the camera to keep an eye on them and they believed that they also installed a microphone although they couldn't see it they said there is definitely it's definitely

it's miced up for sure and i was like you know guys i feel like they've got you i hear you i don't feel like they need to build a case against you i feel like everybody here at this table has a minimum of five years and they got you some of you guys managed to get your dumb asses 12 15 12 to 15 years but i really feel like they've they've got you under control they have have you exactly where they want you no no you don't understand they know we're about to get out are you are you really about to get yourself shift to the medium yeah oh dude i had i had one celly he had like it must have just been like some nerve damage or something and he's like he said he went to the hospital he had like these burns on his hand and he's i was like well do you know what it is

And he's like, oh, yeah, I know exactly what it is. They installed these chips in my hand. And it's my body's like rejecting them. And like it's like a microphone or I'm just like. Of course they did. Yeah. How do you know that? Who installed them with the government?

I was like, when? It's like, I don't know. I was like, how do you not know that they're cutting your hand open and slipping microchips in your hand? It's just like the crazier, the craziest. shit when you're incarcerated. Yeah, I had a guy one time that I literally, so at one point I worked in the library. Right.

And when I was at the, uh, was I at the medium? Yeah, I was at the medium. And I worked for the, in the library for about, I don't know, six months. Yeah, it worked as a GED tutor, but there was about a six month span where I just worked in the library with another guy, well, two other people. And I talked to this guy for three months, this one guy. We talked about movies. We talked about stuff like, you know, the stupid shit you talk about in prison, like, what would make a great remake?

What's your favorite movie? What's like, you know, we just, this really in-depth conversation. Who's your favorite superhero? If you could have a superpower, what would it be? You know, these are, these are prison conversations. You know, at a medium security prison where, you know, not much is happening. And you're basically just sitting there checking books in and out for guys that can't take the books anywhere, really. They like, they go to their unit and, you know, you.

might send them, put them on the call out to say, hey, where's that book go that you took out a month ago? Like, this is a stupid work. And we were talking one day. And I forget what happened. This guy was totally normal. And one day, we were in the middle of a conversation and something happened. And I was like, and I told him that I was thinking about filing a motion, this and that. He said, yeah, I said, what do he say? Something about, something about his case. And I said, oh, I said, are you fighting you? He said, well, I mean, I can't. He said not, not since they, not since all the, they, they destroyed all the, uh, um, oh, oh, he thought Timothy McVeigh

bombed. Yes. The FBI billing to destroy his evidence. I remember, he said, and I was like, was your case out of Oklahoma? He was like, no, no, no, Orlando. I remember saying that. That's so funny. And I was like, well,

He was like, no, they were keeping all the evidence in the Oklahoma building in the FBI office. And I was like, well, why would they keep it at an FBI building? He's like, so they could destroy it. Because you're so important. And then how many children died in this? Like they did all that. He's like, yeah, to keep me here. I'm like, well, I feel like they've got you.

I don't feel like they would go through all of that instead of maybe they could just say, we're keeping. you yeah we're keeping like if they could go through all that he's died like they're gonna yeah i mean this is a guy and what's so funny is like the guy had like a 30 year sentence and he'd been in and for like five or 10 years and he's already in his late 50s like i don't feel like they have to murder a hundred and some odd people and 30 children to keep you for the duration of your 30 year prison sentence wait how long had he been there like five or 10 years or something like it was listen And it was such a bizarre, like, this guy's got like 20 years to go. And it's like, they're going to do all that to keep you here.

Like, I feel like they have you. And if they really, if they were willing to do all of that, why wouldn't they just kill you? So they got you in prison. So the whole home of city bombing was in 1995. Okay. It doesn't even make sense. When was I locked up? He'd been there for, let's say, 10 years.

Okay. So roughly he'd been there 10 years. The timeline makes sense. It's still. Yeah. yeah whatever the timeline made sense to him right regardless maybe he'd been locked up 15 or 20 years he filed something and they blew it like whatever it was he's insane yeah exactly so i just and i just remember thinking up until this point i would have told you this guy was completely um you know mentally stable and after that i could just never you have a conversation again with him without thinking well As he's talking to me about anything, you know, walking in the rec yard yesterday, you know, this happened or how he was playing handball with his buddy over the weekend. And I'm listening to him and I'm thinking, you are fucking bat shit crazy.

This is one of these guys that thinks that spice satellites are watching him. Yeah. You're like, right, right. Yeah. I had a friend one time he did. It was the friend that started doing the blow. Remember that you were like, oh, you should have gotten into rehab. Like, that wasn't happening.

he thought his first of all he just wandered off no idea where he went he's walking down like the main street in fort Collins and he thinks his parents are talking to him through his wallet and he's like talking to his wallet and then he thinks that the police put a bug in his cigarettes so he's walking down the street ripping his cigarettes apart throwing his cigarettes everywhere thinks it thinks the drones are following him like that shit just just is so insane to me. It's like, I'm not that special, bro. Like, no one, you know? No, they don't know any espionage. Like you said, they would just kill you. Like, they're not going to go through all that. Right. Why would they just, you don't understand. No, no, I don't. I don't. But then I'm a pretty level-headed person. I know that I'm here for a reason. I know they got me. I don't think they're still trying to get me. You know, I don't think they have my cell bugged like what what are the what additional things are they going to learn about me yeah yeah people are nuts yeah people are nuts um so what's going oh what

what else are you say like how do you feel about like the whole felons not being able to own guns thing i mean i disagree with that i think that once you're off probation i mean the truth is listen And I, I, it's so funny, because I told Danny this one time on concrete. I forget how it was going. Um, and we were just having a discussion about like illegals and, you know, coming in and the border and everything. And I was talking about like corruption in Mexico and all these things. Um, and he was like, what do you think the solution is? I was like, well, I mean, you know, I think, you know,

I think just massive, you know, like incarceration or just executions, like round them all up and start executing all the cartel members. But I mean, I'm like, they're, but they're not going to put me in charge. Yeah. You're not running for all the same time. Yeah. Like, like that, you know, so, you know, I remember, I remember hat rat got all upset when I said it. Like he was like looking at me like, you're talking about to execute him. I'm like, yeah, well, we're talking about cartel members.

So I don't really have a whole lot of sympathy for cartel members. So, you know, and. To me, it's like, I was like, yeah, I would just make Mexico like the, you know, the 51st state and go in there and just, you know, or just line the whole thing with like, you know, with mines. Like, I'm sorry, I just have to know. That's already a thing. What do you mean? The cartel's already done that, bro. You haven't heard about that?

What, line the border with mines? Well, just Mexico with mines. And there was a farmer walking. with his son on their farm and he's fucking steps on a landmine boom no I'm talking about like the border like what do you do about the border yeah so anyway we're having this whole conversation and um and anyway you know the the back to your original question was you know I think once you like first of all like to me I would have like this entire the entire country would be armed like to me to me at 18 you'd have to go to you'd have to go in the military for two years

years like Israel like yeah well there's lots of countries in Scandinavia that did say you go in for two years you go in for two years if you serve out those two years I think then you get obviously you have like concealed or you have a carry permit I think everybody should be allowed to have a gun I think once you do your time you should be allowed to have a gun I think that an armed society is a polite society I think I think that it would drop I think crime would drop dramatically but I also think that most drugs should be legal, you know. And I think that instead of dumping all this money into incarceration for drug dealers and drug addicts, I think that rehab should be free. You know, like, hey, you've got a problem. You go to rehab for 90 days. And you could put that, you could put

half the money. You could, you could take the budget for the prison prisons that you dump into drug dealers and drug addicts you could take that budget cut it in half dump that spend half of it and put it into drug rehabs and probably take care of the entire problem and then keep the other half

yeah you know what I'm saying working and contributing to society instead of just sitting in a box right but that would be logical and listen you could take the other half and dump it in education and you'd fix the entire prison incarceration recidivism rate but all of that's logical and it it doesn't get you votes right too much thought process in that so it's like do i say let's let's go ahead and double

let's do mandatory minimums and let's double the um prison population that'll get me elected yeah so i mean there's so many things i wouldn't have career politicians i think congress you You should maybe maybe be able to run for two or three terms, and that's it. There's more 85-year-old congressmen that have been there for 40 years. Absolutely not. Yeah. No. So, I mean, you know, it would be a vastly, vastly different world.

It'd be a much harsher world, but I think it'd be a much, it'd be a world where we were. I don't think it would be much harsher, honestly. No, in the end, I don't. I think it would be a huge transition. Because, like, like, guys like mass shooters, you don't see them going into gun stores where everyone has a fucking gun on their hip, shooting up gun stores. They're going to churches. They're going to schools.

They're going to the weakest possible. Like, they're just such cowards. And just like if everyone had guns, like people that are doing like armed robberies, they're going to think twice before they do shit. They don't want to get shot. But you're not going in. Listen, if you're not going into a house where you think there's three people in that house with a gun, you're just not going in.

You'd be like, yeah. Honestly, I'm thinking about getting a job. I'm thinking about. I'm thinking about not doing this anymore. These fuckers have guns everywhere. I can't even rob it at a 7-Eleven anymore. Four people in this floor pull their guns on me. I'd be interested to see the, I mean, I guess a lot of stuff does still happen in Texas,

but like it's pretty well known that most people in Texas have guns. Listen, there's some county in the U.S. I forget the county. They have virtually no, almost no murder, no crime. But they also have a law that says everybody in the, in the county, has to own a weapon. I think I've heard of that place. I totally agree with that.

There's tons of country. Oh, what's another one? Is it Switzerland where everybody has to have a weapon? Listen, have to have a weapon. You pay zero income tax. They've got almost no crime. Yeah. No crime.

And they're like more multi-millionaires in Switzerland than any other country in the world. Like all of these things that that happen in the United States that people argue for don't make really make sense but people don't ever say well is it working what's working in other places well we don't care how they do it in other places yeah that's the whole thing well i don't care how they do it there okay well then then we'll just keep this cycle up and you know that's fine i mean the gun control act like in 19 i think it's 1938 they said that violent felons couldn't own firearms then in 19 or i think it's 1934 1968 they came out with the gun control act and that's when they said that felons violent or not can't

help firearms so this is a 55 year old law that we're still enforcing right and what's so funny is like look let's face it if you come in my house i have no weapons here i can't what am i supposed to do yeah it's like felons are targets bro like if you're like people know you're felon know that you probably don't have a gun you have a target on your back and i'm nonviolent right now the nice thing about where I live, there's three sheriff's deputies on my street. What's so funny is everybody on my street is a normal citizen. But they're also all like, they're all minorities, Cuban, Hispanic. We got somebody, my next door neighbor is from like, like Venezuela or something. They're, you know, blacks. There's Hispanics. There's, yeah, there's just, they're all minorities.

and the riffraff in the neighborhood is this house. The white people in my neighborhood. We're the ones with criminal records. We're the riffraff. Do the sheriffs know who you guys are? I don't know. It's funny.

I don't, you know, I think that the answer is no. But every once in a while, like, I'll get recognized. Like, I get recognized at the gym. I get recognized. But if I go to the, like, I probably, fly once a month, maybe every other month, I have to leave the state to go do like a speaking engagement. Typically, you know, when I walk through the airport, I get recognized. I get recognized the airport all the time. I was in Amsterdam. I got recognized in a, in a grocery store.

A guy walked, I mean, it kind of looked at me and I kept walking, went and got whatever I needed like shaving cream or something. I forget what I got, what I had forgotten. And as I walked by, the guy goes, I love your stuff, man.

And I go, excuse me? And he was like, I watched your YouTube video, videos or your channel. He said, I love your stuff, bro.

He said, really interesting story. I go, are you serious? I'm like, I'm at Amsterdam. Like, this happened in the U.

And I had people at restaurants and stuff like that recognize me. So that's pretty cool. But Jess told me that, she's, oh, you'd be shocked how many people

I think more people recognize you that they say nothing. They'll look at me and whisper or kind of glance at me. She goes, but they never say anything. Yeah. So for every one person that. When you realize that. Right.

And there's people at the gym now. So now I go in the gym, I think, feel like most people at the gym. But they never say anything to me. They'll walk by me and glance and smile. They give me the like that. And I'm like, American greed. I'm like, hey.

Like I'm thinking. that was a weird that wasn't your typical that was your yeah that was a smile like a like we're buddy yeah like we're like recognize me or something and i've had a bunch of people at the gym you know not a bunch but probably three or four people say like say something to me um which is just super weird you know like i'm thankful i'm appreciative i'm not like a jerk about I'm like I always shake their hand like hey what's up hey appreciate it definitely watch oh you mind you know oh yeah I got a question yeah what's up like I'm always very attentive immediately because I don't want to be that guy who's like hey bro I'm

working out man like yeah bro I like I'm thrilled at how things are going thrilled so yeah I always stop and what's up can I get a picture absolutely absolutely you can get hey man oh my god my buddy and I love you can you call them get him on the phone let's do face time are you serious i'm like absolutely hey soon you're not going to have time to do that though you're going to be big time i'm listen i'm always going to love to do that like how cool is that i called this we did this guy was in starbucks the guy recognized me um this was funny this guy literally almost

crashed his he was in a mercedes he pulled up to the window as i was walking in and all of a sudden i hear him scream matt cox and i thought I knew him and I kind of glance over and he's like and you can see him he's just completely like, like, forget it, forget it, forget it. And he pulls his car off and jumps out of his car and runs over to me like left all of the Starbucks shit. I'm done with that. Runs over, starts talking to me, asked to get a picture of me. I get a picture of him. Then I go a picture with him. Then I go inside. Then he goes inside because he didn't do his order. He never got his order. So he goes inside. He's standing in there with.

me and he and he's like bro my buddy loves you man we we watch your stuff all the time he is man he said can I call him I said FaceTime him let's do this that's great FaceTime him where I'm like what's up bro he's like look who I found he's like oh my God we're all screaming people in Starbucks are like what is going on and then when I finally get up to the counter this guy's go tea takes off I get up the counter she the girl's doing my order or the cashier and she looks at me she goes like what was that about out. Like, are you, are you somebody famous? I'm like, not really. I have a YouTube channel. I'm nobody. Like, she's like, that guy was really excited. I'm like, I know, right? That wasn't that

cool? I was like, that's awesome. If felons were allowed to own guns, like the money that would go into the economy, do you think that would like offset or like outweigh the money that is going towards like prosecuting or like keeping these guys in prison for like possession of a firearm? I mean, I think that's probably a small portion of prison population. But still, it's probably millions and millions every year. Well, I mean, if it's 350 million people in the country and 25% of them have a felony conviction, that's like 85 million people. And then say half of them buy a gun, $500, that's $20 billion if they just buy one gun. But they're going to buy more than one.

So it's like potentially hundreds of billions of dollars. I don't think, I don't think know that that's going to make a huge dent. But I, but, you know, maybe, I don't know. But I think, well, I don't know that violent criminals should have guns. I agree. I don't think murders, rapists, kidnappers, even pedophiles. Because, like, they could use guns to lure. Potentially violent, right.

So. Yeah, so, like, but, like, someone like you, like, you do banks out of money. Like, why the fuck can't you want a gun? Right. And someone like me, too, like, it's not like I'm going to walk around toting my gun. Like, he's going to sit in my dresser. Right. You know, I'm never going to use it most likely.

But if something did happen, you know, like some guy who's robbing banks with a gun or who has gone to prison for murder and gotten out. Like, I get, it's like, okay, potentially this guy is a real problem. Well, that's why I think, like, they had it right in the 30s. But then 68, the gun control. Act that should it's just bullshit and like you can get your record expunged after a certain period of time but not your federal not your federal record no you can well you can get a president be a vibe by presidential order you can get like come on let's be reasonable like yeah it's almost impossible to get your gun rights back as a it's possible but unlikely

but if you have like a VRA crime then you can't So, like, victim's rights advocate crime. So, like, if you have a victim, like, I have a victim in my, in one of my charges, but I didn't fucking hurt her, emotional distress. And it wasn't, she's fine. So it's like, I can't own a gun. I didn't hurt anybody. I didn't inflict bodily harm on anybody.

Right. It's just crazy. I don't know. I just don't agree with it. I mean, maybe I should run for. office. We'll see. Yeah. Drop a comment

for me. People will comment. People will be like, I'll vote for you. Why not? That's all the motivation I need right there. Let's do it. But. I interviewed a sheriff

that was hooked on like oxies, got indicted, got arrested, got it out, and was running for reelection. Out on Bond, running for re-election. That's. he believes himself that's that's cool he's like listen he said people were supporting me

people were supporting you man the redemption like he's he's uh rehabilitated i'd vote for him yeah he's all good now um six months later yeah all right oh oh you know what i'm i'm supposed to interview a a um first amendment auditor you know what that is well first amendment's your freedom of speech right right so these are the guys that they video they'll take a like a video camera and walk around and just kind of video stuff like they'll walk into a police station and video the lobby or go into a a um like a public records building and video like the courthouse and so these people will be like that work they're like what are you doing you can't video in here it's like well yeah it can it's a public it's a public

building. I'm in public space or or I'm standing outside the police station. The police will come out and be like, what are you doing? I'm videoing. For what? I'm a journalist. It's the first amendment right. So you're basically just an asshole that likes to exercise his rights in like an obnoxious way. Exactly. You turn for it auditor. They call it their first amendment auditors. And what happens is the cops come out like let me see some ID and they're like, nah, I don't have to give you idea. Yes, you do. No, I don't. What? What? Then I say. what I was going to say I've done that like I've been a passenger in a car I had like like an eight ball in my sock and I wasn't driving so I like knew I didn't have to give them my identification and it was like me and three other people in the car and I told them was like listen we don't have to give them our IDs because we're not the ones driving so don't give them your IDs because I have I thought I had a warrant in Wyoming right and the top comes up and of course they fucking give their IDs right me these fucking assholes so I'm the only one I'm like dude I'm not driving. in like I'm not I'm not I don't have to identify myself like no like all right we'll see about that so

they came back with like a different cop and they're like hey so we understand you you're not trying to like give us your ID whatever I'm like yeah I don't have to and they're like well we just want to make sure that you don't have any warrants or blah blah blah and I'm like yeah well I'm not driving so I don't I don't have to give you my idea and they ended up just coming up giving my friend a ticket and our warning and they're like all right you guys have a safe night. And I was just like, yeah. Yeah, that's what these guys do. But sometimes it works out. Sometimes it goes good and sometimes it goes bad. Sometimes they get handcuffed. They get taken downtown. They get relief. But what happens

is a lot of times what they're doing is they're putting themselves in a position so that the cops will violate their rights. And then they can see them. Right. Exactly. Smart. Some of these guys are making $8,000, you know, little baby lawsuits. But it's like you, you arrested me. I have, I have video of it. You have video of it. You, one, you told me I wasn't allowed to do this. That's not true. You told, you tried to get me to give you my ID.

I told you no. I said, well, what, what law am I breaking? Right. They said, well, I'm doing an investigation. Yes, an investigation into what law? Well, you're suspicious. Suspicious isn't breaking a law. Yeah.

And they're like, oh, you're scaring people. Scaring people is not breaking a law. You know, uh, uh, you know, they get all upset. And sometimes they'll, like, they'll handcuff them. They'll pull their wallet out. They'll get their wallet. They'll search them. They'll take them downtown.

They're like, okay, well, I'm going to sue you. And then they get out and they file a lawsuit. And then, you know, they basically, they're like, look, you guys are wrong. You know, the, that, the U.S. attorney, or the, sorry, the district attorney comes in and says, look, you're wrong. Let's give this guy 10 grand to go away. They give him 10 grand to go away. And this is how they make their money.

Dude, this is why. I love you, Matt Cox. You just inspired me. I just found my new line at work. Oh, listen, this one guy I'm about to interview, like, he's been to prison. He's been to prison and, and, and he's, I think he's sued. He's got, I think he's got a lawsuit against him right now. Or I think he's suing right now. Um, you know, there's just, some of these guys, some of these guys have big lawsuits. 50, 100,000 dollars. I went to high school with this girl. And actually, we grew up together. We were, from, second grade on and she was going to school in florida maybe you actually heard about this

and actually you were locked up when this happened she was walking down the street and a cop asked her to identify herself or whatever and she's like no i'm not doing anything wrong he ends up fucking tasering her and she she sued the piss out of course yeah she she was on like some big news station um she's actually my first crush quitter or not but and she lives in fort columns now which is funny um but yeah she she she that shit happened to her and she got paid bro well you know what happens is that the you know the cops like overstep their their boundaries you know they pull you over they they search you they ask like what am i what am i doing like why do you like you can can do this like i'm not bothering anybody we got a call and then of course they're

super bullies you know yeah they just abuse their power right so it's like you know it's just it's just i don't know it's just silliness like it's it's it's it's it's silly that these guys are putting themselves in that situation where they may end up getting shot for instance right now in florida there's a guy who's got a whole channel um and it's based on the fact that he walks around town with an AR-15. I've seen that guy, yeah. Yeah. His videos are great.

Totally legal to do, right? You're going, he's going fishing. He's got a fishing pole. He goes and he does fish for hours. And the cops will pull up left and right. Like, you know, they pull their guns on him sometimes. They, you know, and like, you don't, you don't know the law. I'm allowed to do this.

Yeah. And they're really trying to just, you know, dissuade him from doing what is legal, what he's legally allowed. to do. And then they sit there and they're like, what do you need an AR-15 for? Would you feel better if it was a 9mm? Yeah. What is your, what's the problem? I'm allowed to do it. But I mean, at the same time, he's clearly doing it to provoke them. He's got, he's recording it. It's not like he just has his AR and he's like, oh, you're not telling anyone. What he's saying is, I'm doing it because I should, I'm allowed to do it. I should be allowed to do it. People should be,

they're like, yeah, well, people aren't used to it to seeing that, but they should be. Yeah. Like, they shouldn't have a problem with it. You know, you have a gun. I haven't done anything wrong. I'm going fishing. I'm allowed to go fishing. And if more people walked around with weapons, visible weapons, I think people would be a lot more polite.

Yeah, absolutely. I certainly, I'm not, to be honest, I'm as polite as you could be to anyone all the time. Same. But when I, I'll tell you, when I walked around with my 45 on my hip. no one gave me any problems they're right you know it's funny too like if the if the if i if i was walking down the street and the police pulled up and said hey uh excuse me you know i do you have ID on you I'd go yeah sure I show my ID but I'd show my ID because pretty much if anybody stopped and asked me for my ID I'd show it to him yeah anybody if a homeowner

stopped me and said hey excuse me could you stop you can I see your ID I'd be like sure What's up? I would do it for anybody because I don't want to care and you're allowed to see it or not allowed to, but I'm, I'm a very polite person. And I'm more than happy to indulge people who are even complete lunatics. But when the moment you're telling me that I have to do it and I know I don't, then I start to feel like, see, now I don't want to give it to you. You know, if you just asked, that's one thing. But now you're demanding it and I know you don't, I don't have to give it to you. And now I have an issue. Isn't that, and that's silly. But I think that's the way it should do. That's how I felt that time that the cops were, they were bringing up, they had like a female officer come up. And they're like, oh, we'll see.

You're going to tell us who you are. Like, I'm not. Now I'm definitely not. Right. So, yeah, I mean, I was going to say, it was so funny. I watched one of the auditors where the auditor, I'm sorry, where the guy, they were, it was a random, they were randomly stopping people in Georgia. They're just, it's random stops.

They're just stopping and they're like, let me see your ID. And the guy goes, I don't have to give you my ID. Like, I wasn't speeding. No, I know, but this is a random driver like, it's like an ID check or something. We just randomly stop cars and check them. And he's like, yeah, but I haven't done anything wrong. So I don't have to give you my ID. Yes, you do.

Was it a black guy asking for it? No, the black dude was the guy that they pulled over. no there was actually a black cop oh okay and he's asking well first it's a woman i think first it's a woman asked and he said no and then the then the another cop comes over a black cop comes over and says hey man i need to see your id he says no he's no he's yeah you do he's like by law you have to give it to me he's like no i don't he's like listen man he's do you do this all the time yeah we do it all the time people always give us their ID he said well i don't have to he's like yeah you do it all time doesn't mean i have to do it exactly and so he sits there and kind of slowly argues with the guy

And the guy goes, you're going to get arrested. He said, well, then you'll have to arrest me because you're not legally allowed to do this. You can't just stop cars and ask that aren't breaking the law and ask for their ID. Was that that county in, it might have been Georgia where they were doing that and charging people with like bullshit. It was like a racist like system. I don't. I don't know. I know that.

It was the black cop who was the whistleblower on the whole thing. And they were like making all kinds of fucking false arrests and they got sued like crazy. And this black cop was like, this is fucking bullshit. This is racist. Like it was an openly racist police department. You didn't hear about this? No. Yeah, I was, you should try to get him on, bro.

Well, in this, in this one, eventually the guy just keeps saying no, no, no, no. And if you're going to arrest me, arrest me. And eventually the guy goes, man, just go on, get on out of here. And he's like, he's like, all right, he rolls his window up and drives off. He's like, I mean, the cops telling him, you're going to prison, you're going to jail. We're going to arrest you. he's like yeah you're not going to do that yeah you just got to stick your guns you know and finally they guys just you know what he's I don't have time for you man just get out of here like like I'm

still right yeah yeah they want to get the wrong yeah come on I love it dude I'm definitely gonna start doing that shit that's fucking genius listen when I was on the run one time um we were in savanna Georgia and I was driving down Savannah and they had a stop a road like a stop where They were stopping all cars. And I could see it way down the road. And I thought, you know, what's happening here? And I was like, yeah, I don't want to be involved in this. So I do a U-turn.

Immediately a cop turns. You're watching for that, bro. And chases me down. And I'm, I'm dry. I'm like, oh, my God. I had a paper, I had a paper driver's license from Alabama. Because when you go in Alabama at that time, I don't know what it is like now, but you go to get your driver's license. They give you a paper cutout.

Yeah, that's a big of your driver until they mail you the, the real one. Yeah. So all I've got is a paper driver's license. In what name? Scott Cugno. And so the guy pulled, they pulled me, they go, why did you turn around? We're saying, well, we're looking for a hotel. Why did you turn around?

Why did you stop at the stop? We're like, because when we got here, we could see that we clearly there's no hotels here. We went down the wrong road. I don't, you know, I'm like, I mean, I'm not trying to avoid it. Like, I'll take a breathalyzer. Like, I don't, I'm not drunk or anything. And the guy goes, let me see your ID. I was like, here, gave it to my ID.

You don't have anything else? I'm like, no. Well, I've never seen this. I said, well, I just got my ID in Alabama and we're here just for the weekend. I don't know what to tell you. And he was like, so he goes. goes he comes back he rounds it it checks out yeah he comes back he gives it to me he said all right i said hey hey hey he started he goes okay well you can go and he starts a little i go whoa wait a second

he goes what what's up i going i said where are the hoots where's i need a hotel like i genuinely i wasn't fucking around like actually we were looking for a hotel we were looking for a hotel it's like 1130 at night on a friday and he's like you go back down here he's got his direction of wanted So, yeah, he tells me, go back down here, get on the interstate, go down about three fucking, you know, whatever. And there's the whole street. There's eight different hotels there. Thank you, obviously. I was like, thank you.

That's awesome. So, yeah. Anyway, listen, man, we got to wrap this up. I have to go to the bathroom. All right, dad. Oh, yeah, all those people in the last video. Yeah. This is Matt's son.

Yeah, there's like 15 of them. oh my god um all right all right we're well we're uh okay we're good yeah hey we should do one on that um the russian mob boss that my uh my brother's best friend's uncle we should do one on him bro i think it would be great because his story's amazing and like the likelihood of you getting him on here is not too great so but there's a ton of information out there on him And I could research it. It's a great story. How much?

Billions. Whoa. Remember he was doing the same thing that like Michael Francazi was doing? Oh yeah. Yeah. The gas stations. Dude, but his story is just incredible. He's like,

he had a 50 year run, bro. He was doing shit in Russia or in Belarus and came over here to be a bigger criminal. Like his story's just amazing. I just always wanted to be like a criminal, you know? All right. So in New York, not good kid. Doesn't sound like it. I started selling when I was 12.

You made it sound like I held off. Yeah, I held off those other kids. I actually got caught and the cop said to me, he's like, you're 12 years old selling. You're going to be 13 selling. I'm a dealer now. And I had these customers that were heads. Like they'd buy a half at one o'clock. Call me at three for another half.

And then at five for like another half. I love the guys that say, like, listen, if I come back, don't sell to me. Because only money I got left is my rent money. Typically, what you'll just do is they take the rent money and they go, you're going to come up with it, bro. You'll be all right. I wasn't that ruthless. I would at least put up a fight. No, I can't take your rent money.

No, no. Okay. We give the material to the kid to make this with. My partner comes back and he's like, bro, it only yielded like under one and a half percent. So I knew that they were both. So I get with my buddy and I was like, send your people over there. Who's his people? I didn't want to know.

They weren't bad people. They were really bad people. So they go up to the front door and they have, you know, and they knock on the door. The kid was inside. He's got his. And somehow, one of the guys that I sent there got. Oh, that's not good. No, it was bad.

Not so much fun when the rabbits got the gun. She calls the cops. They like show up to my house. I have my house there. I have the cold room in the garage. I can't have the cops showing up to my house. I'm like, what are you thinking? I was born and raised in Albany, just outside of Albany, New York.

Okay. Yeah. So I'm a New Yorker. But you're in Colorado now? Yeah. We'll get there. Okay. Yeah, my dad's Ukrainian Jew.

My mom's Italian. So I'm a pizza bagel. Right. I can see that. Yeah, yeah, right. So, yeah, I grew up, like, just super fascinated in the Kosher Nostra and the Kosher Nostra, which is the Jewish mob. Have you heard that before? No.

You ever heard that? No, I was actually just thinking that a pizza bagel sounds good. I was like, that's it. Never heard that either? Not bad. Yeah, I wouldn't mind one. I love bread. But anyways, yeah, so, you know, I idolized, like, Lucky Luciano and Bugsy Siegel and Meyer Lansky and those guys.

Right. And I just always wanted to be, like, a bad guy, like a criminal, you know? I mean, I thought it was, like, a normal thing, but I guess it's not. It is for some people. Yeah, right. A lot of people, but. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so one percent of society.

Right. That's the one percent that got. caught so yeah yeah so i think there's something like um 25% of americans have like felony conviction or something i remember the the number was outrageous oh i believe it it's 1% that's currently incarcerated in some type of yeah incarceration which is all it's it yeah what 350 million people that's like what three and a half million people that's it that's a lot of people yeah so there's the intercom that's fine It adds to the allure.

Oh, absolutely. So, um, all right, so in New York growing up. Yep. Good kid. Doesn't sound like it.

No. Not, not that. I wasn't the worst kid, but, you know, I didn't really respect authority or the rules. Um, I got in trouble here and there.

Um, but I mean, I didn't, eh, I was going to say I didn't start selling, weed until I was 12, but I started selling weed when I was 12. That's funny. You make it

it sound like I held off. Yeah, I held off. Not like those other kids. Yeah. He's selling weed at 12. Yeah. I mean, at 12, you know, I didn't feel like I was like looking back, it's crazy to think. Like 12 is like a child.

And, but at the time, I'm like, you know, I'm fucking, you know, badass. I'm a gangster. Yeah, I'm a gangster. So, yeah, I started selling weed when I'm 12. I'm a little young for my grade, so I was in eighth grade at this point. So I'm not quite in high school yet. And I remember it was 12 because I actually got caught by the police when I was 12.

I had like a bunch of bags weighed out and a scale. And the cop said to me, he's like, you're 12 years old selling weed. You're going to be 13 selling crack in Albany. What does that go for? Yeah, right? Yeah, I was like, I was like, Arjone that.

But, um, yeah, so, I mean, he wasn't wrong, but his timelines, I didn't start selling

coke to us in my. Right. So, yeah, so, uh, 13, I get to high school.

Um, I start selling weed to, like, the upperclassman, you know, as I was like the weed guy. I'd come to school every day with a bunch of bags, weighed out and a scale and just sell weed in the bathroom.

And, um, like, my, my dad, My dad sold weed, like my three siblings all grew and, you know, I come from like a family of growers. I'm looking above your environment. Yeah, like my dad went to school in New Mexico.

He played for the baseball for the University of New Mexico Lobos, and he drove trucks for my grandpa's carpet business. So he ended up meeting this kid in his English class, who was a cartel. and came up that my dad knew how to drive trucks and the kid's like, you want a job? My dad's like, yeah, sure. So my dad starts driving these trucks down to Mexico full of cash and then he'd go to this warehouse

full of drugs and load it up. And he got, this is in the 60s, he got 17 grand and a kilo for every run he did. So that was when he was in college. I was in the 60s where they were probably waving cars through too. Oh, yeah. well they

would pay off the fucking order you know what I mean like these guys were the real deal but they started robbing the trucks so my dad had to go with a bodyguard and he's like fuck this I'm out he's like I'm not getting paid enough for this

right he got a nice sports car with it and you know he he did good then he uh he moved on this five acre property on the Rio Grand and uh him and his friends they planted four acres of wheat and set up like irrigation system and everything and that is that was how it started I guess and then my siblings are all like a lot older than me so I I knew at this point

when I'm 13 that that's what they did I knew that's what I wanted to do eventually and so I ended up dropping out of high school at 16 and my dad let me start growing wheat and in the basement and that was all down well it went up hill a little bit but mostly down hill from there um so i drop out i go and get my gd like a month later um didn't study or anything like i'm a brain like i love learning and i'm smart i just hated school you know right i was the reason i dropped out was because my attendance was so bad that i wasn't going to be able to complete my junior year. They wanted me to do summer school. So I was like, fuck that. I'm just going to go get my GED and go to college. So I actually started community college when I was 16. And I was taking

business administration. It took me like, I took a year off. I started boxing and I was working like at a gym. And it took me three years to get my associates. But once I got my associates, I was like, I could transfer to like a four year now. And I knew, like, we, like, we, had just been legalized. This is 2012 recreational in Colorado. So I was like, that's where I want to go. So I started applying to schools.

My first choice is the University of Boulder or Colorado Boulder. Why? Why? Just curious. Well, it's just a sweet school. Their campus is amazing. It's a party school. It's like one of the biggest party schools in the country

at the time, which I didn't need. Yeah. It was going to say. All the right. It was like asking all the right reasons. Exactly. But it's a good school too. But my GPA wasn't high enough. So I was like, all right, what's the next biggest one? And I found Colorado State University in Fort Collins. And at this point, I'm looking to go to school for horticulture, naturally. So it turns out CSU actually has the better ag program. So I applied there. my GPA, I think I needed a 2.8 and I had a 3, 3.0, so I got accepted. And then April of 2013, I moved from Albany, New York to Fort Collins, Colorado. And, yeah, I was going to CSU for horticulture. And same thing.

Like, it was just like, I don't like school. I'm just going to grow weed and, you know. I think the starting salary for a horticulture graduate at the time was like $30,000. It's like, what am I doing? Like, it's $45 grand a year out of state tuition. Like, I'm not doing this. So I dropped out after. I mean, you didn't know that going in?

You didn't think about that or you were just doing it because you thought you wanted an education? I thought like I was going to learn a lot about stuff that I could apply to growing. And which I did, but it turns out there's so much information. on the fucking internet for free right that's specific to wheat so I was studying like how to grow weed online while I'm in school and I was just like I can just learn what I need to learn for free and you know not have to go to class and all that bullshit so yeah I dropped out and just started focusing on growing and my dad and I lived together at the time and we we had to grow in the in the basement. Our landlord was cool with it. And I mean, it was, it wasn't a great grow.

You know, this is like the early days of my career. And so who are you selling this to at this point? Like you just, you go up there and immediately get a group of people you know you can sell to or just college students. So at first, I, I actually drove my first harvest back to New York. That's the only time I've been back to New York since I moved out here. And I sold it there because I, you know, I stole all my friends there and then drove back and ended up, I only made like 12 grand. I ended up getting fucking pulled over in Iowa on the way back, on the way back with the money. Yeah, awesome. I'm going to college.

I'm in college. Yeah. I was like, I'm going to buy a motorcycle because all I had was the money and my dumbass for whatever reason decided to bring the scale that I was using back with me. It was like a $20 scale. I could have just thrown out. And it had like a little bit of weed residue, like a couple of hairs. You can say, well, what is that? And my buddy told me to bring this back.

Yeah. But they weren't buying it. They're like, what's all this money from? Of course, it's all like, you know, 20s. It was. Stripper money. Yeah. Look at me.

I told them I was going to buy a motorcycle. Yeah, look at me. Hey, look at me. I walked into a bar. They start throwing ones at me. I can't help it. Am I going to not take the ones officer? Exactly.

So you got to think faster when these questions come at you. I was 22, man. I did a break, you know. I learned from it, though. But, yeah, so they end up impounding my, my, I get, what was it? A Ford S-U Explorer. An Explorer, they impounded it, took my money. They were grilling me, like, and they interrogated me.

They're like, you know, we're going to go through your phone. Like, you better just tell us what you're going to do. I was like, I was sitting there deleting shit, like, under the table, and I'm like, all right, where's, you know, show me the warrant. You guys can go right through it. They didn't end up going through it. They, you know. yeah i bonded out i was in some shitty tiny fucking jail um my dad i called my dad uh he bonded me out um they ended up giving me like a possession of like marijuana paraphernalia it was like a misdemeanor or like a ticket or something and i i called like a normal you know what normal is it's like the national organization of it's like the national marijuana organization and they They provide, like, ternas.

So I went to the Iowa normal website and found an attorney to take my case. And basically, he was going to fight to get my money back. Yeah, you got to say that's my money. What are you talking about? You got to prove this is drug money. Really, they're going to say you have to prove that you legitimately got it.

Right, which they tried to do at first, but I didn't end up happening there, you know? All you do is when you file your taxes, say I made this much money and this much of it was cash and this is not i've never filed taxism that's a that's it's gonna catch out pot with you i know it's but hey i'm being honest here look to you you're like you got like you get bigger problems right now you're living in a halfway out exactly that's the only yeah what do i care um they can come after me they can't what is it the saying you can't bleed

a stone or anything you can't get blood from a stone um plus there's also you know the the IRS would have to prove that you make more than, I think it's like 16,000. If you make less than 16,000, like, you don't even pay taxes. Yeah, so, I mean, I never, I kept everything in my dad's name, you know, I just spent cash. But, but anyways, so my lawyer ends up getting me my money back. But after the fees and paying him, I got back, I think, like, 3,500 bucks. Fucking, for a long get, right? I was so pissed.

And it took like almost a year. But being an attorney, it's just a license to steal. I know. I heard you talking about that. I forgot. It is. It was the one you posted yesterday. But yeah, I was like, that's so true.

They are just crooks, man. But yeah, so that was like my first like kind of close encounter with the law. So I go back, took the loss. We kept growing. I think it might have been the next. harvest. It was all sour diesel, so it smelled great, but really strong. And it was July in our air conditioner for the house went out. So we were trimming it and we opened the windows because the house was like fucking 95 degrees. And one of our neighbors calls the cops and it's like

the whole fucking neighborhood smells like a skunk. And they knew it was us. So they gave them our address and they looked up our address and I had a 99 plant count medical cart which allowed me to grow 99 plants so they're like all right we're going to go check this out to make sure these guys are legit um I should I need to backtrack just a little bit so I started making a butane hash oil I don't know if you've heard of this before like shatter no no no so all right so yeah you can take weed and run butane through it and it extracts all the resin and it makes like this golden hash basically um i'm oversimplifying it you know for the sake of time and everything yeah

and so i actually started making that in 2009 before i moved to colorado um and back then we used to use a metal turkey baster fill that with weed and then use just a can of lighter fluid butane and it was super dangerous because you have all this butane dispersing a flame ignites it you got a fire like it was bad news so they ended up coming out with these systems called closed loop extractors and they were these big stainless steel machines you could put like two pounds of weed in it and you used a big tank like a 25 pound tank of distilled butane so it was it was cleaner safer supposed to be safer but really you have a if you have a leak in the system you have 25 pounds of butane that's going to ignite it's a bomb right so but overall it's it's just inherently safer so

anyways back to the story um i have my closed loop extractor broken down on the kitchen table so it's this big mess of it was neatly broken down but it was a bunch of stainless steel parts and gaskets and in my bedroom they're called a vacuum of it which you used to purge the butane out of the hash and I have that full of hash

in my bedroom and it's like six o'clock in the morning knock knock knock it's the medical marijuana enforcement division three they're plainclosed cops and they're like hey we got a complaint from the neighbor

we just want to come in and make sure everything's you know kosher and so my my dad doesn't help you we're from the government we're yeah no we're your friends we're the medical marijuana in fort we're just trying to make sure you're not doing anything you know crazy yeah they're fucking cops so so my dad answers the door and i'm shitting my pants because my fucking you walk into the house and it goes down to the basement like right next to the front door but you can see the kitchen right when you walk in So I'm like, holy shit, my fucking extractor is right out in the open. I got like two pounds of hash in my bedroom.

And so my dad's like, yeah, yeah, I'll take you down to the basement. And like, just so happens the night prior, I had cleaned up the entire grow. We had just harvested. So everything's neat, clean. All the weed is in like big tubs. So luckily I did that because they would have seen like all the dead plants. Like we had a lot of plants. so it looks like you only have the 90 plant

well no you have more than that artisted all of the plants so we actually had no living plants at this time there's no way for them to tell how many you had how many did you have 90 or more than 90 okay it was 10 years ago I can't

but but anyways so my dad takes the three cops downstairs and I like I'm peeking around the corner I see them go downstairs and I start tiptoeing and doing runs back to my bedroom with all the i did do like 10 trips all the parts and i'm tiptoeing so they don't hear me going back and forth and um my dad like stalled them long enough downstairs so so that i could clear out the hash stuff right and they come up and

i'm just sitting there in the kitchen like oh hey how's it going guys and everything's put away and they're like yeah we're we're good here you know if the neighbors call again we'll just tell them you guys are you guys aren't doing anything wrong and they're just going to have to deal with the smell and we're like all right guys thank you so much like you know you have a great day and they leave and i'm just like i would have got a manufacturer it would have been bad like you're not supposed to do shit it's a manufacturing of narcotics charge like it's like the same what's that yeah the extractor yeah so um dodged the bullet there and that kind of emboldened me because I was like, they said

if anyone calls the cops on us, they know we're not doing anything wrong. So now we can go nuts. You know what I mean? That's not the way to interpret that, but I would have interpreted it that way. Yeah, you got to think, now, this is, no, looking back,

it was crazy, but like, I'm, this is me at the time, arrogant as fuck, and just thinking I'm untouchable. Right. So I just, kept doing what I was doing and about a year later

I had been making hash for other growers at this point they're bringing me their entire harvest and the deal was I get 30% of the hash I produce so I'm getting 30% of these guys grows and I'm only doing like a week's worth of work like it was great

so my grows I think of all this stuff oh at this point I had met guys through Instagram that were posting hash with like the hashtag Fort Collins actually one of my really good friends

I still talked to to this day he had a picture of him holding up a slab of hash and I hit him up or he might have hit me up I can't remember but I was like hey we should you know link up we'll dab we'll smoke

and he introduced me his whole thing was Joe made so so Piercework can you hear it i mean i can he said gentlemen yeah here's support group anyways so um that's nice people other people oh yeah i mean some of stone's great shout out some but anyways um so this kid his thing was he had a little girl himself and he had someone making hash for him but he was a middleman and a broker so he

buys up all these guys entire grows and then sells it slings it back to like the east coast um he's he's from um the northeast as well um so that we kind of clicked because of that and um he's a mass hole though we you know we worked through it and um he he would buy a lot of my stuff and he through him i i was able to network and meet all these other growers that I was able to make cash for and it kind of just like blew my business up. And, but he was also, you know, selling Coat, Molly, acid, everything. He was the one-stop shop.

Right. Amazingly, he never got in trouble. And he was super reckless. He would just have people in and out all the time. Come out of Stanley. It missed them on count. Anyways. So, yeah.

So this kid. kids like he's like the trap lord and we become like really good friends I actually end up moving into his house and um go I need to back up a little bit I end up getting a job with this guy naughty he's got a YouTube channel K-N-O-T-Y-Y check him out great dude um great hash maker I end up moving out to Seattle um and making hash for him and it's great he's like to this day he's the best friend I've ever had. And Daryan, if you ever see this, I love you and I miss you. It's a great dude. And I was, I was making 20 an hour under the table working for him, working 50 hours a week. So I'm making $1,000 cash a week. But I didn't have to worry about, you know, distribution or, you know, anything.

So it had its tradeoff. Like, I was taking a hit in the pay, but working for him, he was super popular. I tried to look up naughty. Yeah, it's K-N-O-T-Y-Y on YouTube And he was making YouTube like hash videos in the early days So he had this big following, did you find him? No, K-N- what? K-N-O-T-Y-Y-Y Nazi, okay

Yeah, Nazi with two eyes You? Got it. Got it, yeah. Yeah. So, you know, he was my boss. and what is this stuff it's that's the hash that i was making that's butane hatch you see like the big it looked like a sponge yeah yeah yeah there's all different like uh consistencies of it but

it's all butane hash oil um as far as the the ds okay so um so yeah so um it's great i'm working out there but like after a while like i'm making uh each each each slab i was making was like a pound of hash which back then was like i can't even remember a lot of money like let's say 10 grand and i'm making like 10 of these things a day so i'm making all this fucking money for him and i'm only making 20 an hour um so i'm like hey man like what if i got paid like a dollar per gram i produce so that way it's like proportionate my pay is proportionate to what i'm make it instead of just 20 an hour. Right. I don't

knock him for this at all, but he's like, no, I can't do it. Sorry. I can't do it. He sounds like he's making a ton of money. And you're just a laborer. Exactly. But it was also I was teaching him how to make the closed loop style hash because he was doing it

the old school way with the cans of butane and he had fires. Like he he didn't struggle. So that was like my main purpose there was to, like, show him how to do it the right way. And, but it was, at the end of the day, it was his shop. It was his equipment.

I actually got an equipment donated to him from a friend of mine that had a company in Fort Collins because he wanted the exposure because Nottie was so big. I was like, hey, I'm working for this Nottie dude now. Send us a machine. So I actually did get him one of the machine. But it was his clients bringing him the material. It was his distribution. network. So, like, I understood, but I didn't accept it. So at this point, my name has, I've

grown, like, you know, I have like 10,000 followers on Instagram now, a bunch of people that want to, like, work with me. So I'm like, you know what, man, it's been great, but I'm going to move back to Colorado and do my thing on my own. And so when I moved back, I moved in with the friend that was the broker, and I started making hash with him. and I was making way more money. Right. You knew all these growers here. They're bringing us their entire crops and we're killing it.

Eventually, you know, we butt heads. You know, we're fucking 23 years old, just, you know. I move out. I get my own house and I just start doing my own thing, completely independent. And I'm not even growing at this point. I'm just making hash. And it was great because I didn't have to worry about working to grow. I could take a week off.

You know, when you're growing, you're just like constantly fucking working. So I'm making good money. I'm like, I started partying, like, going out to bars and stuff and going out to nice dinners. And one of my friends I was like really good friends with starts doing blow. How old were you at this point? At this point, I'm like 20. 24 23 24

I'm living in a nice house it's like a 2,500 square foot house in the suburbs I got like a new Tacoma I'm doing well right and I think I got the truck

I was making fake pay stubs I figured you'd appreciate that so that was how I got the loan for the truck and yeah I'm rent to this house. It's like $2,000 a month, which is like, you know, normal here. It's not like Florida. Right. So, you know, I got this nice house. It's like a four-bedroom house to myself. And so anyways, so my friend starts doing below. And his girlfriend has a trust fund. So he basically

had his like allowance. And he didn't, he didn't work. He was just the, you know, we called him, they had like four dogs. He was the fifth dog. You know, he's there for emotional support. He didn't bring much to the table. But so anyways, so he starts, he gets this allowance and I'm just watching him spending up $300 a day on blow, just like hissing through it. I'm just like, like, I could be selling him the blow. You know what I mean? Like, I was selling him the blow. You're a good friend. I'm a great friend. Hey, if someone's got to put the money, it might This will be me. Hey, you can't judge me, dude.

You're not one to judge. I have two choices here. I can get him into rehab. Or take advantage of the situation. Listen, that first choice was not even a remote. That didn't even enter your mind at any time, no. You have a problem. I need to capitalize on it

Exactly Yeah I need to take advantage of this situation That other guy screwing you Yeah I was like I'm like bro this guy's You know taking advantage of you Like I'd be selling you grams for 80 instead of 100

You know You'd be saving money going with me Is people ailing people? Exactly bro You're just trying to be a good friend Exactly I'm just looking out for the homie I hear you Yeah you get it

So we find this kid who starts he starts getting his blow from he's really cool we become like really good friends with this kid

his name is Zach he passed away fentanyl Fetnol Is that what you said? Yeah fentanyl yeah I didn't even know he's using bro

and one day I just get the call from my friend that was the broker and he's like hey man Zach's on a coma. I'm like, what the fuck? He said, yeah, he passed out with a fentanyl strip in his mouth. And he was drinking. He was a horrible alcoholic. He called himself Zachaholic. And he, yeah, he had a do not resuscitate thing. So, yeah, he died, like, I think later that day. And, um, but we'll get,

we'll get to that. Anyway, so, um, I see this, like, opportunity with the Coke thing. but I didn't really have, like, a good connection to do it, to capitalize on it. So, like I said, I mentioned, like, the grower community was pretty tight-knit, and we networked. Like, if we had an out-of-state buyer come in, he would want more than we had, so we'd go to other growers that we knew and buy their stuff to sell to the out-of-state guys. and one of these guys I'll just call him big homie

that was what he was saved in my phone as he was older dude he had like a brand new Lamborghini he was like I was like I want to be like

that dude you know right he was just like cool older like old head like hustler and I'm over at his house

one day he loved oh geez like the strain so anytime I had oh geez he's like call me up

and come down and I'll buy it from you. He'd buy like four ounces for his head stash. Um, and ounces at this time, they're like a thousand bucks. Um, so I'd go down there and hang out. We'd dab. He had these like $30,000 bongs that we'd be hitting. And, and one day I was there, he had like this little char like this, like this big, full of like amazing blow, like just straight fish scale. And I was like, dude, that's what is? that and he's like we call this the space coke it sends you to space and i was like dude if i had access to that i could i could sell a lot of that and he's like okay i can make that

happen so he he sets me he's like i'll set you up with my guy that handles it and he sets me up with this kid um we'll just call him j and jay lives in boulder um i've heard of him through the circle you know it's all the the drug dealer circle and um but i didn't realize he was like getting it through this guy and like the older dude with the Lamborghini he's um one of el chapo's nephews you mean jay's getting it through uh through the older guy yeah the Lamborghini guy or vice work the older guy didn't get his hands dirty so okay okay yeah so jay handled his his distribution Exactly. So the cartel guys would bring it across the border and Jay would get it straight from them. So this is completely untouched. Yeah, this is straight from a super lab. Exactly. Or whatever, wherever they're processing it, whatever. It's free from the jungle. Yeah. So, yeah, so he sets me up with Jay and I tell my buddy Zach because I knew he sold. That was all he did was sell Coke. And I was like,

like hey bro I got a connection that you need and I was like you can come with me to meet the dude but if you end up buying something from him we'll work an arrangement out he's like okay cool so we go down and meet meet the dude j and it's it's the same it's just like but huge pieces like just straight amazing fish scale like you pick this stuff up and rub it in your fingers and it's just like oil on your fingers like I'm never seen Coke like this. And we work out an arrangement. Zach would buy whatever quartered kilo, half kilo from Jay. And then because it's my connection and I would, I ended up just doing the after that buy, I ended up transporting it. Right. I'm older to four columns, which is like an hour.

So I was like, I'll transport it. It's my connection. You front me, whatever I need. you know the best price you can do and he's like okay cool so that was our arrangement and we're doing runs we started off getting a quarter kilo which i think was nine grand yeah a thousand an ounce um and eventually we then we got up to a half kilo and then you know full kilos but i mean this this kid j was just so reckless bro he was like 21 years old he's living in this trap house like we'd go up to pick up and he'd just have like a party girls everywhere

all Molly and shit and we're just and he would just open up he'd be like yeah what do you guys need we're begging half bird half kilo and he'd be like okay he'd open up a drawer in his kitchen

and there's just a fucking brick of Coke just sitting there you'd just take a butter knife whack it in half put it in a fucking garbage bag or something or not a garbage bag like a shopping bag and just send us on our way and it was great you know we're we had like the best stuff in town um I mean once I start selling to my one friend then he had other friends that

wanted it and they had other friends that wanted it and I just had this huge customer base like almost instant and I'm selling these grams for you look like you want to say something well I was going to say like how long does he how long can he go being that you know open how long can you can you know be that reckless without it catching up to you not very late i got i get he's i mean he's i mean young cocky thinks everybody's his friend it can't happen to me yeah get busted like i i get the but yeah no it was it was crazy it was on a main street in boulder which is a college town he's got constant traffic in and out like from the street you can see in his kitchen

it was like it was not a good setup and yeah he's got all these these girls that know what he's doing he's selling molly to all these girls right dealing with these cartel dudes getting bricks like it was just a it was just but he was a young kid like I understand

you know just naive and he wasn't he wasn't a seasoned like you were at 23 No He was a rich kid He had sold stuff But he was a rich kid

How old were you at this point? At this point I'm 24 Oh okay Yeah But he was just like He was a good drug dealer But just Kind of like

Slop Really arrogant Yeah yeah Just the rich kid arrogance Like oh I'm not worried about Something happening Right

Harris My dad was a school teacher my dad taught public high school and my mom worked in a greenhouse um i didn't come from money so like i had more of like a street hustler mentality you know don't be flashy um you don't flaunt your money right kind of shit um but yeah he he had a versacee couch it had like the medusa heads and the handles he had like a persian rug like a ten thousand dollar rug right um he was yeah it was up a 21 year old kid shouldn't probably have that's never had a job in his life he's wearing Gucci louis baton you know I'm wearing like Nike stuff like just

normal normal normal I look like a normal fucking pot head so yeah so we're doing this for a while um I'm like I have a couple customers that are buying like half pounds um I'm taking one ounce because it's so good take one ounce add three ounces to cut to it and sell it for 800 i'd sell a half pound for 6,400 i just got two ounces fronted to me for 2,400 so i'm turned around and making $4,000 just in 10 minutes right um but i'm also i'm mostly selling $100 grams um i had a couple other friends that would buy ounces half ounces and sell it themselves um um One day, one of my friends that was buying, I think he was buying half ounces, he calls me up, he's like, hey, bro, I just finished, I'm about to go drop off the last of what I have, can I get another half ounce? And I was like, yeah, meet me at your girl's place. I'll bring another one over there for you.

Keep in mind, like, I'm just using my fucking phone. I don't know. Longbendy Twizzlers candy keeps the fun going. Keep the fun. I'm going. Twizzlers, keep the fun going. He's in a burner. Like, I'm so arrogant.

I'm just driving around. I have like one of those dummy aerosol cans with the bottom on screws. Right. Around with grams pre-weight out in there. Just drive around and sell and blow all day. Because the cops don't know what that is. Right. Totally.

They've never seen. Look at this. Yeah. never seen this before oh he's got look he's got an aerosol can yeah I thought it was better than just keep it in my pocket you know um but I had like you know I had a BMW 328 um like a newer one but it wasn't flashy you know it's just like a normal I blend in I look like a you know I didn't have as many tattoos um so I would just drive around in my little three series just slinging grams 24 hours a day and

And so I go to meet this kid at his girlfriend's house with this half ounce. And I get there, waiting. I call him. He doesn't answer. I call him again. He doesn't answer. I'm like, starting to get pissed. I'm like, bro, you just have a drive across town with a half ounce of blow.

Now you're not even fucking answering. So I call him a few more times. I'm pissed. I leave after like an hour. And later I found out he was going to drop off like seven grams to someone. And he had a seizure, ran into a telephone pole with his truck, woke up, surrounded by cops. So I was like, like, I know he's not going to snitch on me. Right.

And he was like, what if they go through his phone? You know, what if he doesn't cooperate, but what if it comes back on me? So, like, I got a little, you know, I didn't stop doing it, but I got a little more. I was going to say, any more than a message in the phone and his word. Or not even like a message because we were smart on the phone but what if he was like saying to someone hey I'm about to go meet Dave

get more blow something like that so you just don't want him to get put them on you like you're not going to get arrested but you just don't want your name even coming up in an investigation right you just don't want him to be okay I thought you thought you were thinking

like they're just going to show up to your house and arrest you no no and at this point I hadn't I have no criminal record besides like the thing in Iowa which I mean it was like a ticket but yeah I'm like I'm not on the police radar at all. So I find out the next day from a mutual friend of ours, like, hey, you know, so-and-so's in jail.

Like, he had a seizure, the cops got him, and he had a scale with all this blow on him. Like, he's fought. So I'm like, that's not good. So a couple days, I think it was like three days later, I find out that Jay got rated by the, ATF and the DEA and that's related no no no no no no absolutely just coincidence okay but between those two things I was like all right this yeah I'm spooked at this point so I'm like I'm out and yeah Jay ended up he got I think seven years in the feds um he had like I want to say 500 grams a blow, like 300 grams

of Mali, a bunch of acid, a Uzi, an AK, a money counter, 70 grand cash, you know. What does the rich kids selling Coke need an Uzi for? You know, rich kid selling Coke starter back. You need a new

you need a money counter. Like, you need a lot of stuff from Versace. You need to act like you're a gangster. You're new to this world. You know, I did. I, you know, you don't. Ridulous. You need a $10,000 couch for your trap house.

Yeah. You need seven years to get your head right is what you really mean. That's what the judge probably said, listen, what are you doing? Oh, he tried to play the mental health card, the drug addiction card. They were like. No, they don't care. They're like, I was going to say, oh, you have, oh, we'll give you the ARDAP program. Yeah, exactly.

We'll give you, they have a drug pro. Good. Thank God. Yeah. Thank God. We're going to go ahead. We're going to send you to a great place. It's a residential treatment center. Yeah, his defense was like, oh, he already got accepted to this residential treatment center.

And they're like, okay, cool. Yeah, but we have our own. Yeah, that's your job. You don't worry. Yeah, it's free. It's better. Yeah. Have it security?

Yeah. It's going to be great. Yeah. Can't walk away from this one? A lot of those places you just walk away, you get tired three days later. You're like, I'm leaving. You walk away. Don't worry.

We got you. So he goes in, he's like 510, like 120 pounds soaking wet, no tattoos. He starts posting pictures on Instagram like five years later, like five years into his bid, or maybe he's like three or four years. He's got his hairs like past his shoulders. He's fucking yote, bro. Right. Like 250 pounds solid muscle, full tattoo sleeve.

Just looked like completely different. What state was this or the feds? He was in the feds. Okay. Yeah. Because it was an ATF, DEA operation. But another funny thing worth mentioning about Jay was he was a rapper. This guy.

Listen, he paid Gucci Main. You know who Gucci Main is? Yeah. Yeah, obviously. Big Gucci. He paid Gucci. Gucci, 50 grand for a verse. And this is right when Gucci got out of prison.

What's just so? And I'm just like, that doesn't sound like a good idea. So, and then Gucci doesn't even let him, um, drop the song. He straight hustled him. No. Yeah, absolutely. He did a music video. We wouldn't let him show the rapper hustled some, some kid for out of $50,000.

Stop it. I'm not going to, I will not sit here and listen to you talk about or insinuate. So yeah, that was, I failed to mention that earlier, but that's like, you know, paints the picture of the skin. Yeah. He's a rapping. He's rapping about this shit, dude. He needs seven years. Hey, he's doing the shit he's rapping about.

I will give him credit for that. No one can knock him for that. He was doing what he was rapping about. Oh, my God. So, yeah, he just got out, actually. I haven't talked to him, but yeah, he's out now. He should do a podcast. He really should.

You should have him on here. Listen, I knew a guy, a white guy that had dreads that was like, and balding, white balding guy with dread. With such a good look. Name Bobby, who's like 40 years old and used to sit there and rap in the unit. And it was just like, this is like, if the white guy would. Dreads wasn't just sad enough. Balding wasn't sad enough. You're also a rapper.

And he would convince you that he was, he was going to be a rapper when he got out. He was blowing up when he got out. He was going to blow up. He's going to be huge. He's going to be huge. He's been writing songs for 10 years. He's going to be huge.

I think he makes pools now. I think he installs. We're friends. Everyone needs a day job. Yeah. No, I mean, it could still happen. Got a pretty girlfriend. Hey.

I don't know about the rapping thing. I don't know if that took off. I don't think so. And you find his sound cloud. Yeah, I don't, I'll look, Bobby, Bobby. You got to love jailhouse rappers, right? Yeah. They're the, he's to, used to, with my, listen, listen, let me tell you something real quick, real quick, real quick.

So I met my wife at the halfway house. Right. And we used to like, and, you know, so I would come to, come home from work. And she would, like, wait. and we would eat dinner together sometimes. It happened a few times, so I started thinking it was like a thing. And then one time I texted her,

I said, like, hey, I'm going to be back there at this time. You want to have dinner? And she goes, I can't. She said, I'm tired. I got to wake up early. I'm tired. I'm just going to bed. I said, oh, okay, that's fine.

She'd been working all day. But I come back and I walk in. And as I walk in, you know, they got, like, a Sally Port. They check you. They look at your phone. Back to you into the halfway house. Back in the halfway house.

And I walk in and I look up. I'm going to head toward the little cafeteria. I look up and she's sitting at the table with Bubby. Listen. So Bobby was in the halfway house. Of course. He was imprisoned with me and in the halfway house. Oh, okay.

Yeah, he was in my unit. So you guys go way back. Well, not that I ever talked to him very much. So we don't have a lot in common. So he was just shy of. having the gold teeth but he they probably arrested him before he could get the gold teeth so you know I looked up and I saw she looks up and she sees me and she kind of

like looks at there and she knows that I'm thinking and then you know listen I just I got the soon as I got my food came back she got the text hey listen you know I I know how that look yeah when in in reality you're you're pissed but in reality she's like she doesn't want to be talking to bobby is any more than you want her yeah well that's what she says i don't know i believe i believe listen i mean i i think she made in the end i think she made the right move yeah i mean look she's with you now you guys are married so yeah listen i i'm mad at her all over again just just just talking about it's talking about it

i'm getting upset just she could come in i'll have an attitude she can be like what's wrong don't worry about it don't worry about it how's bobby yeah How does it sound about? She'd be like, ooh. Yeah, she doesn't remember him. How long ago were you guys in the halfway house? Three years ago? Yeah, about four years ago.

Four years ago? Yeah, he's Bobby's. Yeah. That's funny. We all know Bobby. You know, we have a couple of them in here. We're, yeah. I keep my headphones on pretty much all the time.

Oh, okay. So, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't mean me. you're off track sorry go ahead um yeah i need a j got arrested j so yeah j gets arrested um you got spook you said out i'm done you got stopped selling the blow Zach um Zach kept selling um so at this point i'm i'm making hash again because i kind of stopped making hash because it was just like i'm a fucking coke dealer um you know that's i don't have time to make hash i'm running around

serving these 4-7. I'd be out till, you know, I'd get calls at 6 in the morning. I'm getting ready to lay down finally. I've been out all night. This is like a fucking Tuesday night, like an average Tuesday.

And I had these customers that were crackheads and they'd take it and cook it down. And so they're fucking just awful. Like they'd buy a half gram at 1 o'clock, call me at 3 for another half gram, and then at 5 for like another half gram. I'm like, listen, guys, you know you can just buy a gram and a half gram.

half. No, because they tell themselves, they tell themselves, this is it. This is it, bro. I love it when they, I always said, the guys that say,

like, like, listen, I'm going to buy this. If I come back, don't sell to me because the only money I got left is my rent money. Oh, yeah.

Those guys are the worst, because you're like, I'm not going to sell to you, bro. You told me not to sell to you. Oh, no. Typically,

what drug dealers do is they go, they take the, they take the rent money, and they go, you're going to come up with it, You'll be all right. You're going to be all right. I wasn't that ruthless.

I would at least put up a fight, but eventually it's like, I can't take, I can't take your rent money. No, no. Okay. Oh, no. Listen, I had guys that were, they were giving me their last dime, you know. And, but the worst guys were like the crackheads that would call you. I actually went to this one party one time. And I ended up going back five times to sell.

a gram each time. So they bought five grams for $500. I was like, you guys realize if you had just called me at the beginning of the night with $500, I would have gave you a quarter. I would give you two extra grams. Right. Like, what are you doing? Like, I didn't, you know, can I'm driving? I'm just, I make all these trips back and forth. Like, this is a big inconvenience. I'm only making $40 every time, you know? So, yeah, so that's, that's over and dumb with. Like, I had time to make hash again and start making hash again. The hash thing kind of started to, like, fizzle out. And I was like, you know what?

I'm going to start growing again. I'm going to go back to my roots. And I start, no pun intended, right? My roots? I didn't look to him. But anyways, so my dad and I get, what about, and I hate to say that. Yeah, yeah. What about, like, getting a job?

That is my job. No. What do you mean? I'm working 12 hours a day, bro. Never mind. That's all I know. I've been doing it until I was 12 years old, man. Your buddies are getting busted left and right.

Like, you saw like seven years. Like, I did. Huh? Growing? I didn't have any guns or bounces of Molly or anything. Listen, the other good thing about my arrangement with Zach was that I had no incentive to buy a large quantity. Because there was no break for me if I got one ounce or 10 ounces. He's giving the best price he can.

So I'm only getting what I know I can sell in like a day or what I can get rid of right away. Right. I don't ever have large quantities of low at house room. So that was like the big advantage. That in him, he was fronting it to me. So I was looking at these guys getting busted, but they're not as smart as me. You know, you know how it is. I know exactly how it is.

Yeah, that's not going to happen to me. So, yeah, so I go back to growing, and my dad and I had just moved into this house that was like twice the size of the house we were living before. It had a huge basement with like eight or nine foot ceilings. I hit up one of my friends who was, he was a good grower, still is. And I was like, hey, man, like,

I don't have enough money to build out my basement the way I want to. Would you be interested in partnering up? I'll give you 30% of the grow. You pay for the renovation and all the equipment and we'll be partners. And he's like, sure, let's do it. So it took a year. I did most of the construction, like the framing and the drywall. We had someone come in and do the HVAC, but I did most of the work.

and it ended up it turned out great like it was a badass grow but it took a year so that year i was struggling i didn't have any money coming in but i knew it was going to pay off eventually so we finally finish it and the first crop is just amazing and it's like a nice neighborhood too it was like when we when we got raided it was like it was a bad look like it was not that we're coming back there but yeah the neighbors hated us um we had kids like there's like a doggy daycare next door like it was ridiculous but so this first crop is great and i think we got 40 40 pounds of of fresh weed and our plan was to give it to one of his partners in another venture that was making a bubble hatch.

So to do that, you take the weed before it's dried and you make it into hash. So we had about 40 pounds of fresh weed, which would have been about 10, 12 pounds if it was dry, so the dry weight equivalent. And so, I mean, I knew who this kid was that was going to be making the hash. He was going to take the entire harvest,

turn into hash, and take his 25%. just like I was doing for other people. But I wasn't making this type of hash, the bubble hash. I was making a butane hash. So, butane hash at this point was like a dinosaur. Like, no one wanted it. It devalued like crazy. It was like three, 400 ounce.

But this bubble hash was, you know, going for like 1,200 ounce. So we're like, all right, this is like the best way to maximize our profits from this crap. so the kid that he was going to that he was working with that was going to make our hash he was like talk about just flamboyant and like asking for trouble like this kid was he'd have a go yard um man purse you know like those like four thousand dollar man purses louis belt like just supreme stuff like he was just ridiculous and he was just a brat like we'd go to like this nice sushi place it was like you know we'd spend like a thousand dollars on like sushi there it was a really nice restaurant and he'd be like

complaining that they don't have this type of soda and you'd be throwing his chopsticks and like just acting a fool like this kid is he was the worst and i was like we're about to give this kid like 50 grand worth of shit that we just worked like a year producing like i just didn't feel good about it i didn't trust the kid and so i took unbeknownst to my partner i took a like a pound of fresh weed. And I gave it to one of my buddies up here in Fort Collins. The other kid was in Denver. And I was like, hey man, run this for me. I want to see how it does. You know, before I give it to this other kid. And he runs it and he gets back like a 5% return, which is good. I was happy with that. I was like, all right, cool. I still didn't tell my partner though. I was like,

all right so we should be getting back like 5% on that 40 pounds like whatever that comes out to so we give the material all the harvest to the kid to make hash with and I'm sitting there for like a couple weeks I'm like doing the math I'm like all right we're going to have this much hash it's going to be this much money like we're going to be good this is working out my partner comes back and he's like bro it only yielded like one and a half percent or like under one and a half percent and i to this day i think he was in on it right you know i was like no right i percent he didn't know that i tested it so i knew that either the kid that made the hash was fucking me right where they were both fucking me.

So I knew this guy, we'll call him R. And R, I met when he first moved to Colorado, like 2015 or so. I was like one of the first people he met out here. And I hadn't talked to him in a few years, but I saw him over at Jay's house. He ended up becoming Jay's roommate. And I saw him over there one day, and we've reconnected, you know, and he's like, good to see you, bro. Like, he's telling everyone, he's like,

yo, this is one of the first motherfuckers that taught me about growing weed. And he was one of the first people I met out here. He's like, this is my dog. And this kid's like, he's like, six, four, like just massive Colombian kid. Like, he was a gangster, bro. Right.

And he's, he's in the feds right now. I think he's doing, like, I think he got like 18 years, um, all kinds of weapons, charges, drugs, everything, all that good. stuff so I get with my buddy who's who also knows him and we call him and we're like hey bro get this I just gave this kid you know 30 grand worth of weed and he gave me back like 10 grand worth half like he this kid just fucking robbed me right and he's like all right what do you want to do and I was like send your people over there with a U-Haul who's who's

This is people. I didn't want to know. They weren't bad people. They were really bad. Okay. So I'm like, send your people over there with a U-Haul. Here's this kid's address. I told them what kind of car that his roommate drove so that they knew that the roommate

wouldn't be there because the roommate worked for my partner. And so I didn't, and he was a good kid. He was a little goofy, but he was a good kid. I didn't want him getting hurt. Um, because this was going to be a home invasion. This wasn't going to be a, like, this is going to be bad. Right. So I'm like, listen, this kid, he's sitting on like at least my $20,000 with the product. Right. No, he's got cash. I was like, you send your guys in. They can keep the money. They can keep the hash. I just want this kid's grow equipment and all of his designer clothes. Like, I was more about making this kid suffer. than it was me getting back what I was right so he's like bet let me make a call her open makes the call he's like all right my guys are good to go you want to do this tomorrow i was like let's do it tomorrow so these two guys they go rent a u-hall and they they go to the

address and they're staking it out and the roommate's not there but like I was talking to my partner I was like hey like have you heard from so-and-so like is he like I made up some excuse to talk to him I was like I got someone else that like wants him to make hash or something I was like is he at his house and he's like yeah yeah he's just there chilling like he just made some hash whatever and I'm like I call my dude and I'm like hey he's in there so like no one else is there like tell your guys they're good to go so they go up to the front door and they have, you know, some stupid pistols. And they knock on the door. Just like these two like, just like middle-aged black dudes. And they knock on the door. And the kid is inside watching, he's been watching the whole time that these guys are parked in the U-Haul and they just walked out. They've been watching his house, just walked over to his door and started knocking.

He calls my partner who's on his way up from Denver to my house to do some work in the grow. And he's like, he's like, bro, so-and-so just called me. He said these two dudes are like outside his house right now that they've been like watching his house. That's crazy. I was like, they're like, what, does he know them? He's like, no, dude, he's never seen these guys before in his life. I'm like, oh, that's wild. You know, keep me posted.

Ed. I already know what's going on. These guys, they don't get an answer on the front door, so they walk around to the back door, and it's like a glass sliding door. There's like a walkout basement. And we got two different versions of what happened from there. But the version that I'm going with that makes the most sense to me is these guys shot out the back door. And the kid was inside. He knows what kind of. it is. So he's ready. He's got his gun. And somehow one of the guys that I sent there got shot. Oh, that's not good.

No, it was bad. And he tried to say that it was a kid that shot him. But then the kid, like later on we hear this story from the kid that he didn't shoot at all. So my theory is that they the dude accidentally shot himself right it was in the hand he

accidentally shot himself in the hand so when that happened um they you know scurried off back to the u-hall um freaking out you know um i get a call from my body not quite as gangsters they thought no and it's easy to be a gangster when the other person has no idea you're coming it's not so not so much fun when the rabbits got the gun so anyway so I'm like all right it's going down right now I'm going to get the call like I'm sitting there with my buddy who like also knew he was the only one that knew what was going on so we're like all right we're going to get the call like they're in there right now we're going to get the call everything went good and you know we're in a plan we'll have them come up to a storage unit bring all the equipment and we'll break breath and

we get a call really it was quick I was like wow that was fast these guys are good and the dude's freaking out he's like bro

my dude is shot like do you know a nurse or a doc I was like no like go to the hospital I'm not a gangster he's like

yeah I'm like this is your business and he's like bro he can't go to the hospital like with a gunshot wound I'm like yeah I've seen that on TV like that's yeah you can't do that

So I'm like, let me make some calls. And I knew, like, who was it? It was like some shit that I knew her sister was a nurse or something. And I was like, hey, like, this is kind of a big ass, but I got a friend that's, like, hurt. And, like, I was wondering if your sister could help. And she's like, well, what's wrong? And I was like, um, he got shot. And she's like, no, my sister will not.

no absolutely not so i called dude back i'm like hey bro like i tried but you know just put some dirt on it you know walk it off it's his hand he'll be good i'm like no bro he's like missing his pinky like i'm like uh man like and they didn't get anything obviously no so i'm like all right dude look like what what what what are what's it going to take to make this right and he's like we settled on like an ounce half, so like $1,200. I'm like, okay. That $1,200 for a pinky?

Yeah, that's not bad. I was like, hey, if these guys aren't going to come after me now, it's only, it cost me $1,200, consider it done. Listen, that could have gone wrong. Like, during a home, like, let's say they did a home evasion, they got shot. Yeah. Let's say that tracked back to you.

Yeah. Oh, no, no. I mean, it got shot, like, shot and killed and go up. Yeah, oh, yeah. Oh, no, it was. You know, I'm thinking kosher nostril. Like, this is, this guy wrong me. He's fucking paying.

I wasn't thinking, like, rationally, you know? Right. So. So is the guy put it together? No. So, oh, bro, this is a great story. So my partner calls. He's still on the way to my house when this all goes down.

He's like, bro, these guys just tried to rob E. there was a shooting I got a beeline back to Denver I was like that's fucking crazy bro like yeah go do what you got to do because I'm sitting there like inside I'm like fucking pissed that this didn't work out

now I got to pay these dudes money right I was pissed but I'm like yeah bro that's crazy I hope he's okay oh shit I just said his name it's not his real name it's his initial so I'm like I hope he's okay let me know what's going on

when you get down there don't worry about coming up to do the work I'll handle the work tonight and so he goes down there and the kid is like he has a I didn't know this he has a warrant out for his arrest this whole time so the kid just took his dog and like a backpack full of shit and just abandoned his house just ran he's hiding in the woods down the street from his house my partner has to go pick him up

and like saving and And so he's like, yeah, I just picked him up. Like, he has a warrant. We're going to go back to my house. I'm going to set him up there. Him and his girl are going to chill there. And then I'm going to come up and we're going to do the work. I'm like, all right, that works.

So he does that. He comes up. We're talking about it. I'm like, what happened? You know, like playing dumb. And he's like, dude, it was bad. Like, there's shooting and, you know, the cops came. And so they're business partners.

So my partner has access to the kids' security cameras. So we're sitting there watching the police, the detectives, at his front door from the security camera at my house. And we're watching them. They're talking about the shooting. They're looking for shell casing, blah, blah, blah. And we're watching them where they leave. And this is like, you think I'm a scumbag for this?

listen to what my partner does so he's like bro all all of his stuff is like still in there and no one's there we we should go get it and i'm like for safe keeping yeah yeah you know like nobody could rip him off yeah exactly we should hear our storage unit we might as well get it if he's if he doesn't if no one else is going to claim it why why let it go to waste i'm like dude that's a good idea but I was like that's our boy though like

sure he's like oh I'm invasion for yeah I'm like you sure bro and he's like

yeah man like let's do it so we wait till the next day and this kid is staying at my partner's house with this girl they're shook

he's planning he's gonna run to Maine because he's like they're gonna be looking for me now because of this warrant now the shooting like I'm fucked I got to get out of Colorado

so he's laying low at my partner's house. And so my partner sets up this plan. He's like, all right, bro, at like 1 a.m., I'm going to tell him I'm going to meet. My partner, he's a great guy. He's like, I'm telling him I'm going to go meet this Tinder girl at like one. And then we're going to meet up. You come down to Denver. I'll go.

He lived a little south of Denver. He's like, I'll drive up to Denver and we'll meet down the street. and I was like, all right, bet. So I was like, I was like, bring the homie that works for you. And I'll bring the homie that was working for me at the time. And I was like, it'll be the four of us. I'll stop at Walmart. I'll get some walkie-talkies.

I'll get masks. I'll bring garbage bags. You know, we'll, we'll do this right. You know? This is impossible. It really was. Right. So, so I have like this.

expedition at this time so I rip out the back seats like cleared out so it's good to haul all this shit back and we meet up like at the gas station around the corner and we're going over this plan right

but it's like our you know we're doing our little like what do you debrief right or brief and it's like 132 in the morning middle of the week

or it might have been a Friday and we're at this gas station like in a not great part of Denver and we go inside we're like all right let's get some like red bulls before we do this you know right so we all go in

and we're like right around the corner from the house and we get some red bulls we come out I think I was me and one of the other ones that it was the four of us were the last ones out of the gas station and as we're walking out it's on an intersection this car got teaboned as we're walking out and the other car flipped there's like these girls in there like freaking out like like we we weren't sure if they were dead the car's upside down like it was we just heard it we heard like boom and we're like, what the fuck

was that? And we're all sitting out there just like, stump. And the one kid that he's like a simple kid that worked for my partner, he's trying to run over there to help. I'm like, bro, what are you doing? This is, we got to go now.

All the cops are going to be here. Like this is like, no, they need help. They need help. I was like, bro, you're not a fireman. Like, let them, don't get help. Let's roll. So we fucking, we let, we saddle up. And we're like, this, this couldn't have worked out better. So.

This is so, it's wrong on a totally different level. But it's funny. Sorry. Of course, I wasn't in the car. So. Yeah. So we roll, we follow each other. And we have his, his street, like, is up on a hill.

And it's just one way in and one way out. So it's like, I, so you come up the hill and it's like a corner. And then it's the same thing on the other side. So we had one person in my car, my worker in my car at one end and my partner at the other end so we could see if anyone came up, drove up the street. And we all had the walkies. So we get dropped off the front door. They go post up on the corners and they're keeping watch while me and the simple guy go in with contractor bags and flashlight. and we're like thinking we're we got to break down like the door or um they boarded up the glass

door that got shot out we're going to have to rip that out and we walk up front doors unlocked so we just walk right in well doesn't you said the kid had like cameras like a survey the cops unplugged it all oh okay yeah the cops ended up unplugging the cameras while they were there. So while they left, but then they came back with the landlord the next day, they unplugged the cameras, turned off the power

and boarded up the back door. But they left the front door unlocked. Left the fucking front door unlocked. Really? All right. So we go in. We got our flashlights. I'm like, all right, I'm going to go take

the downstairs. You go so the kid, the simple kid lived there. he was the roommate right so he was like i want to go to my bedroom and like get some of my personal stuff and i'm like okay yeah that that's cool like you know um you go do that i'm going to go start downstairs um and then we're going to meet back up in the grow room and we're both going to take down the grow stuff and get it staged by the front door to get picked up and i'm like I'll call you on the walkie-talkie or call me on the walkie-talkie,

like when you're done or whatever, I'll call you if I need help. He's like, okay, cool. I go downstairs, and this kid's got, like, a shoe display with, like, six pairs of Yeezys. You know what Yeezys are? I mean, I'm assuming it's sneakers, right? They're, like, Kanye's Adidas sneakers.

They're, like, anywhere from $3 to $300 to $1,000 to $1,000. They're, like, really expensive shoes. So I see the Yeezies, get those in a trash bag. Because I already knew, like, what this kid had and what I wanted. I was like, I had a plant. So I get the Yeezys. Go in his bedroom. It's just like, this kid was just like ghetto Ridge, bro.

He had a fucking TV with a couch and in a bed. That was all the furniture he had. I go into his closet, and I was just, like, overwhelmed. I was like, this is, like, all designer shit. So I just started throwing everything in a garbage bag. Louis Bell, the go yard man purse, Supreme stuff, Supreme's really expensive. And I'm like holding it up and like, what shit is my side? Great. So I load all of this kid's wardrobe into like two contractor bags. Right. And that was pretty much then he had the big screen TV. I was like everything in

value. So I get the two contractor bags, lug them up the stairs to the front door. And then I go to the garage where the grow wells and i call the kid on the walkie i'm like bro what the fuck is taken so long like i'm done i'm sitting here waiting to take these lights down where the fuck are you no answer i'm like yo where you at no answer fucking idiot forgot his fucking walkie-talkie in the car and my worker answers he's like hey bro like so-and-so forgot his walkie-talkie in the car And then my partner, Josie, he's like, stop saying fucking names and the watch you talk, he's idiots. And they're like, God damn it.

Fuck it. I want to say his name's so bad because I was, God damn it. You know, so and so. And I go and find him in his bedroom and he's fucking just dicking around, fucking going through his drawer. I'm like, bro, like, you can buy new clothes later. Like, you don't, it's not like anything is like, get your valuables and let's go. Right.

So we go to the garage and there's these eight LED lights. They're like $1,500 lights. and we start their the cords are going to somewhere in the ceiling so i have i planned this out i had like wire cutters so i'm like hold the light i'm going to cut it take it to the front and set it by the door so we do that we get all the lights out then you had this hash making stuff it was a rosen press which i don't need to explain what it is but it was like eight thousand dollar machine then you had another like $7,000 machine to dry the hash with. This is the stuff that we needed to make the hash ourselves. Right. So we, this stuff's like fucking headed. So we're lugging it to the front

door and we get everything staged. We call everyone. We're like, all right guys, pull up. We're ready to go. They pull up. It takes us about a minute, maybe two minutes to load everything up. It ain't like just barely fit in my expedition. And we ended up having all four of us had to pick the one machine up. It was really heavy. And we got everything loaded up. He goes back to his house, you know. Tinder girl went great.

You know, the kid was passed out on the couch with his girlfriend. And we drive back to Fort Collins. And we're like so excited. We're like, we just hit this fucking lick. like fuck this kid blah blah blah and to this day the kid thinks that it was the cops

that took back he did yeah had no idea and my fuck what about the cash and the hash and the cash that you guys thought was there

that was what that was all he took with him you know when so that wasn't there but funny enough he has all that stuff with him at my partner's house and he leaves it there and he goes to Maine

to hide and he's like yeah just like to my partner like sell the hash when you're done uh send me the money whatever

so my partner calls me up he's like hey bro like homie like left all this hash in my freezer and he was like let's fucking just

keep it and split it great great friend and I'm like all right yeah let's do it so we uh no no i forgot about this in between the kid going to maine and him deciding to take the kid's hash he gets rated completely unrelated like his neighbors called it in your buddy part oh okay

it's rated and the cops take um they cut all his plants down um they think he had a bunch of fresh frozen weed that needed to be made in the hash. They took that, but somehow they didn't open up his freezer and find the pounds of hash that belonged to the other kid. So that's

what made him decide to take it because he's like, bro, I'm going to need, I just got hit, like I ought. I need money for a lawyer, blah, blah, blah. So he's like, we're going to take his hash, and I need it more than he does. so he comes back up to Fort Collins with the hash and it's a good it's it's a lot um I think we ended up getting like 20 something grand for it um and I got my cut and he took his got his lawyer whatever whatever um and yeah so that the it ended up working out but it was so different than

how we thought it was going to go right but yeah so then we don't have a hash gun you know um which i ended up i ended up filling that role because i mean now you have the equipment yeah now well all right so we actually took the equipment to a coke dealer that we knew in town um Zach had already overdosed at this point, but it was another friend of the broker friend. And we gave it to him as collateral for a loan. He gave us like $10,000 for it. And then we're supposed to give him $12,000 back in a month and we would get the equipment back. And we talked about it.

We're like, you know, we wouldn't really need the equipment. Like we just basically sold it for $10,000. Right. I'm cool with that. If you're cool with that, I'm like, yeah, let's do it. so we ended up getting like you know 30 grand and we didn't sell the grow lights though those are worth like 12 grand and we kept those and used those and shortly i think it actually might have been just before this i got this opportunity to start a new grow um with an old friend

that i had lost contact with and i was selling like some fans on craigslist some grow fans and he comes over and it's him and he lost all this weight I didn't recognize him I was like yo what's up like I haven't seen you in years I used to sell him coke and shit and he tells me about this place that he's got an opportunity

to start to grow but he can't afford to build it and equipped it so I was like all right well let's work together you know I'm working with this dude this is my partner the three of us can work together and we'll get something going

so we use that money that we got from all that whole ordeal and we use that to start this new grow and this was like a lot bigger like we up until this point we did like

basement grows so. Did what? Basement grows like in the basement houses. Right. This is going to be like our first like larger scale project. It was a pole barn

is like and we'll say like 40 by 40 feet 12 foot ceilings but it was going to be like a big project so we had we put in all the money we had it was like 30 grand or something um the one kid didn't put any money in it was just he found the spot that was his contribution um I put in all the money I had my partner put in all the money he could and we get like the framing done and then we like kind of hit a wall and we're like fuck like we're going to have to either wait like three months for another harvest or we're going to have to find someone else to give us money to invest and I was like

all right I can get us the money but you guys aren't going to like how and they're like how I was like I could start selling coke again and they were like pretty against it but they were like all right if this is what it takes to make this happen just do it so I start selling coke again um I'm stepping on it like crazy this time because I'm just trying to fucking make money right and I'm I'm working on the grow like I'm doing most of the the work the construction and stuff but I'm also saying and blow and I end up getting enough money together to finish it and it took about a little under a year and we had this beautiful huge grow and it was two 10 light rooms so to put that in perspective our basement grow in my house was eight lights so this is more than twice the size higher ceilings it was all automated um i could control all the equipment from my phone um from my house um it was it was sick and the first harvest was like it was kind of a pain in the ass getting everyone to do their part i was there 12 hours minimum a day but like to it was like pulling

teeth to get my partners to do fucking any um so after the first one the dude that found the spot he's like look bro this is too much for me it's putting strain on my relationship i just don't think i can do it and i i was like okay then you're out and he's like well like i was thinking like i could get like some of the like a cut of the money like going i was like no dude like you didn't put any money in you barely did any fucking work like no so he just he's out. So now I go from a 33% partner to I took his 33%. And so now I'm the majority owner. Bless it. Excuse me. Sorry. You're good blessing. And so now I'm a 67% owner and my other partner's 33%. And he's also 30% at my house. And he doesn't even have his own grow.

at this point because he got rated. Right. He's just partners in your two grows. Yeah, and he's supposed to be doing like a lot of, especially since he doesn't have his grows anymore because he was doing his grows and my gross. But, I mean, I'm working, you know, 15 hours a day, some days, seven days a week, no days off,

managing both of these groans. And this kid's like coming up two, three hours, at a time two or three times a week and I'm just like dude this isn't going to work you need to start pulling your fucking weight around here or else you're going to

end up like the other guy I was always like you know how they say don't go into business with your friends that's the truest shit ever because at the end of it you're not going to be friends right these are like really great friends of mine

and I I felt wronged by them because I felt taken advantage of and I didn't feel like they deserved what they were getting and I was a dick about it. I really could have handled it a lot better but I didn't think I was in the wrong. I still don't think I was in the wrong. It just sucked that they didn't pull their weight

and it came down. It ended up how it ended up. So there was like a week or two weeks where he barely came up, and I'm telling my other friend who's a grower about this, and he's like, bro, you need to cut that kid off. He's fucking dead weight. He's seeing all the work I'm doing, and he's actually helping me. He was a really good friend, too. And he's like, bro, fuck him. And I was like, you're right. Fuck him. So I changed the fucking locks on him, didn't tell him anything, let him come up. And I see him on the camera, like, trying to get in.

He's getting all, he's like, looking around. He calls me, he's like, hey, bro i'm trying to get into the grow like what's up and i'm like yeah bro you're you're done i was like you know this just isn't working out um i'll i'll pay you out um i told him like him like 70 grand and you can't pay him anything but i was like yeah you you'll you'll get you know you'll get your cut and just don't even worry about it you can go back to sitting on your ass doing whatever the fuck you do all day in debt he's all right you whatever you whatever but i He knew, like, deep down that he wasn't pulling his weight. So he really, he didn't have much to say about it.

So now I'm the proud owner of both of these grows. And it's, I mean, it's a lot of work. And I have, like, people help me here and there. My girlfriend at the time would trim. I had a couple people that would help me trim but really I'm just like top of one man Joe

one man fucking army bro it was it was brutal I was barely I would fall in asleep standing up like it was like affecting my health it was a lot of stress but I made it work and my dad started helping

at the house would that grow and eventually I'm like I was giving because I was doing so much grow work I was giving it to someone else to make the hash and taking the just taking the 25% hit because there's too much work and eventually I'm just me being

you know me I'm like you know what I'm going to start making the hash and I'm going to get 100% of the profit not thinking like it's going to be way too much fucking work right so I build this walk-in cooler in my garage. It was sick. I did the tile work. It was great. And it held like 32 degrees, which is like you want it to be really cold when you're making bubble hash. It, you know, just produces better quality hash. So I'm a single source operation now. I'm making like, you know, 10, 15 grand a month out of my basement like 20 30 out of the other place I'm like I'm doing really well for myself

and I'm like I'm buying toys like you know buying we'll get into the gun thing you know that's for another time but I'm buying guns I'm buying three printers I'm buying tools um I was wearing this kid's designer clothes I didn't need clothes I was good I was getting that department I wear as close for like two years until I went to jail. But yeah, I wasn't like spending money crazy. I was reinvesting it into the grows. The grows were just incredible. So I'm just like killing it. I was I started making the the rosin, it's called. I'm running both of my grows. Everything's great. You know, I'm stockpiling guns. And, And yeah, I mean, I'm making a bunch of money, but I really didn't want to talk about this, but it's like, I have to because it just, the ending won't make sense without it.

I'm dating this chick. And she's just, she's an alcoholic, meth head. She starts smoking meth, like, after. and she she was just like crazy bro like absolutely bad shit crazy I've dated that chick yeah it's yeah and um there was times where she thought um people were talking to her through her cat's water bowl oh my god you should definitely be on that yeah that's the light driving for that she's calling me um telling me that I bugged her computer and I'm like I I you can't even do that to a MacBook like you're being paranoid

like go to sleep you know leave it up for seven days like it's time to go to bed okay and she's just like she would just go on these fucking benders and just be impossible and like keep in mind like she's not working she'd like drive Uber sometimes and I'm, you know, paying her rent, um, buying her shit, um, you know, just buying us food all the time and taking care of her. Like when she's like, I thought she was overdosing one time. She turned blue or her lips turned blue. And I was like, I got to get her to the fucking hot. She's like, unresponsive. Like, it was, it was really scary. So I took her to the hospital, made she was okay um she ended up being okay like she was fucked up but she ended up being okay and then

she gets mad at me because her dad's health insurance wouldn't pay for it so now she owes the hospital 2,500 bucks now I'm the bad guy I'd you know right I'm like you're out of your mind but anyway so she's she's just impossible and one day um she was fucked up I just got done working and I like she wanted me to bring her like jewel pods or something and I was like I I can barely stay awake right now I need to go home and go to sleep and that was that didn't think she was like oh fuck you whatever I was like all right go to sleep and the good relationship it was really healthy um and so I didn't think anything of it I go to bed I wake up the next day I go to call her and like my texts weren't getting delivered and I tried to like text her and like my texts aren't

getting delivered and I'm like kind of scared because she was so fucked up when I talked to her last I was like wonder she's okay and it's like 8 p.m and my text still aren't getting delivered and I'm like getting ready to like drive over to her apartment like she she stayed with me like a lot of times but like she was having a little mood and like was at her apartment and smoke meth and drinking and I like I'm like getting really nervous and so I like messer on Instagram and I'm like hey like like are you there and it like delivers and then it's like seen and I was like oh you fucking bitch you block my number so I'm like fucking pissed and I'm like I'm like why the fuck did you block my number like blah blah blah she's just like

reading all these messages and not saying anything and I'm just like live it at this point I'm like you are not fucking disrespecting me after all this shit no this isn't happening so like I like blow up her phone and like I'm like you fucking ungrateful bitch you know like fuck you whatever whatever she fucking calls the cops and like shows them the text and it's like she tells them that I showed up to her house and I was knocking. And I'm like, what? Like, that, that didn't happen. Like, I, like, that didn't happen.

But so, like, the cops are like, okay, we'll go handle this, you know? Um, and they, like, show up to my house. And I'm like, I have my fucking grow there. I have, like, cold room in the garage. Like, I can't have the cops showing up to my fucking house. I'm like, what the fuck is, what are you thinking? like you realize like you're going to get me and my dad arrested because you decided to block my number and like started arguing out of nothing so I'm like I'm

fucking pissed and she the cops came to my house when I wasn't there oh shit hey what's up Daniel Oh, we just, I'll tell you, we should have. That's up, man. You guys doing another pre-video? Okay, cool. I, uh, just, this is the second one. It's fine.

We got a pre-a video. But we're at higher, you know, I'll wrap it. So, I go to jail for that, for harassing. or whatever. Right. I'm telling my dad on the jail phone how to take care of it to grow because I'm like, I'm not losing a fucking crop because of this stupid bitch, you know what I mean? Right. And so I'm telling my dad, I didn't say anything like, you know, about plant count, about

about much, but I said enough and I hadn't, I didn't know this until I read my discovery. She had told the cops like, oh, you guys have no idea how much illegal shit he's doing blah blah he's doing this he's doing that so they everything together they end up you know um looking up a car mill um doing a drive by it smelled like weed um between like all that they they had enough for a search warrant and they searched my house while i was in jail my my dad was there um we had just harvested so we had um i think it was like a hundred and eighty seven pounds or something of flour and then like 12 point something pounds of hash um like which is marijuana concentrate um luckily didn't have any guns in the house didn't have um i mean that was

pretty much it um there was enough though it was enough and i think we only had like six plants so we didn't even get in trouble for like growing but it was yeah we got possession with intent to distribute marijuana um a df one which is the highest level of drug felony here and uh yeah they charged my dad and i um our landlord didn't we were there for five years didn't we're never laid on rent we're great tenants she throws out throws our stuff out while my dad and I are in jail. I lose my two dogs, which I love dearly, throughout all of our belongings,

and then starts remodeling the house, saying, you know, we damaged this and we damaged that, but it was like a new toilet and like a $400 doorbell and like brand new Harvard floors, brand new carpet painted the whole she just remodeled the entire fucking house. $175,000 that's what my restitution's

for. Because she said you had ruined the house. She said we've ruined the house but she was just taking advantage of the fact that whatever she told the courts we they were going to go with her.

They were just going to cut her a check. Yeah. So she said it was 175 in renovations. I saw the receipts. She got a 400 dollar doorbell. She got $20, fucking cabinet handles. Like, it was ridiculous, bro. And then on top

of that, she tries to say that the house was devalued by $110,000. It was like a $400,000-thousand-dollar house. She's trying to say it was only worth $3.50 now. And I said, I told my lawyer, I was like, how is she going to say that

she had to do $175,000 renovations and the house is devalued $110,000? right that doesn't make sense right no so he's like yeah that's fucked up so instead of having to pay the 280 that she wanted us to pay oh and she up the rent from 2,000 to 2,400 a month and said that we owed her four months of back rent because she couldn't rent the house out because it's getting renovated right the judge was like look lady you're going to have to pick either like the renovations or for the house being devalued. So she picked the renovations and we had to pay back the

$175,000 and my dad got. I say we go get some mortgages on our house. I had. I was like I couldn't pull it. There's no way I could pull it. I thought trust me. I got you. It looks like a good place to Gary. You take care of it. I got you. Good man. It's easy five years when you get out of the Half my house. Yeah. Yeah, I just literally had that exact same thought. After I watched your story, I was like, I know some people that need some new mortgage is.

So, yeah, so my dad got six months, jail, and three years probation. And they knew it was all money. So I got five years in the halfway house because here you can get direct sentence to the halfway. Right. But if I fuck up and get regressed, I go to stay or prison for five weeks, or whatever's left in my sentence. I also got 10 years probation consecutive to my five years. Right. So we ran through that pretty quick. I thought it was going to be longer. No, it's great. It's perfect. That's a good time.

If you had the ghost gun thing in there, it was. have been well that we'll talk about it we'll talk about we'll we'll do another one but we're yeah no that because that would that'll be great dude i started doing research because i want to you know i i haven't done that stuff since 2021 so i wanted to see what i've been missing out on right bro they have plans on there for a 3d printed hand grenade you can make all listen you're gonna get i'd be shocked that this thing gets monetized at all you've only said mail on the hat

you've only said all that stuff Have Colby cut that part out Dude that's a couple hundred I don't know if he can We'll see we'll see he'll upload it We'll see what he can come up with If I have to go through him Bleep them all

God that'd suck Bleep what Listen like if you say If you say the You can usually say the name of a drug Once or twice But if you're repeatedly saying it Over and over and over and over again

You should have to told me that. I know. I didn't really, I wasn't really thinking about it as much as until you, but then you were going into it and going into it and going into it. And I was like, wow, he's really getting into this. And then I started thinking, how many times has he said, you know, hash coat, marijuana? I was like, oh, God, this is a lot. Hmm? You can't even say hash? Well, I don't, I don't know. I mean, it's, it's obviously, you know, it's a derivative. Well, look, you know, like they know all the, it's not like you have to say methamphetamine. If you just say, it's a, it's just say, meth enough times they're going to be like oh he they're talking about drugs you know so they know all the slang words not all of them i'm sure but we'll see we'll see what happens we'll figure it out i bad bro i'd no it's not your fault this isn't you know this is i should have i i didn't realize how um you know you know i didn't realize how prolific you were so but it's okay it'll work out we'll fix it figure it if it needs to be fixed at all i'd be shocked what's so funny is I have some guys that have just said tons of stuff, and then it's perfectly fine about

other guys who have mentioned it a few times, and they get demonetized, and they just will not monetize the video. Can you like appeal it? Yeah, you could appeal it a few times, but, you know, after you appeal it once or twice, they'll put a thing on that where it says, listen, enough already. Like, you keep asking every three months, but we're not changing our mind. Like, it's been determined. Yeah. You know, it's it. I have one that's after multiple reviews. we've determined as like I yeah um but anyway so did you have any questions or anything like no i mean i think you were super thorough i mean you're stuck in the halfway house now now and it sounds like you just recently realize you owe 175 thousand dollars and you're not getting out of the

halfway house until i just can't imagine spending that much time in a half home no no no so i can still go non-residential which means like uh ankle monitor at home no no no i just can't Ankema. No? No. Just living at home, but I need to show receipts every time I spend money. They're managing or keeping on my finances. They are making sure I'm working full time. I can't, I don't think I can leave the county. So it's got, it's some restrictions, but it's probably like federal probation. Yeah, it's like probation. And that will be, it'll be like seven months in here. here residential and then whatever time after that um non-residential you're fine i mean lucky yeah up top bro if they had found they knew half the shit i really did what i'd be in the fed right now what happened with what happened with the uh with the girlfriend is do you ever hear from her what no dude no fuck that bitch i mean i was sure she she's probably sorry she probably feel bad. You know what?

I don't care. I could give two shits. Oh, okay. A hot mess. Because there is, she was not slowing down when I was. Right. So, yeah. Did you see the video we released like, I think, yesterday, Sunday? Uh, which one was that? This chick, uh, Danica. About, she broke her, she broke her boyfriend out of federal, I mean, aren't at a state prison oh i saw that wasn't on spotify no it's on my channel yeah yeah no i

saw that when i was looking at your channel this morning i want to watch that uh yeah yeah i haven't seen that yet yeah she's like we you know we don't typically edit videos but it really it was over three hours long and we edited it was like three and a half a little bit more than three and a half hours long and now i think colby got it down to like we we edited roughly an hour off of it and people are still complaining that she's she's rambling on on on on and on and i'm thinking like we cut a ton out she's got a great story but she was you know she was um she was nervous you know nervous and and and and and she was rambling and we trimmed it down and uh but she does have an interesting story because you know she broke like she broke she broke

her boyfriend out of prison. I didn't watch that. That's insane. It wasn't like a camp. It was like. Oh, no, no. Two layers of fences, guard towers. He had to get through three doors with, um,

Alan wrenches that she threw over. He drugged a guard. It's, it's just serious. I'm going to watch it. But of course, so it's so funny is that when she's telling it, it doesn't feel serious. Yeah. It is.

Alan wrenches. Yeah. But it is serious. And I'm kind of like just the whole time going. And she's, and she's, and she's, and she's. And she's funny about it. She's like, yeah, you know, you know.

You mean, there'd be a chill fence. She's like, you know, I got the bolt cutters, you know, I'm good with a pair of bolt cutters. And she said, I, you know, you're like, what do you? Like, she's joking around the whole time, but it takes her forever to get to the point where she's breaking. Because I don't really know the story. I read a couple. There was two articles I read about her that she sent me just to kind of like, okay, you're saying you broke a guy out of jail. I'm having a hard time believing that.

I'm going to need something. You send me two articles. I was like, oh, wow, this is real. It checked out. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She, like, really broke these two guys. One, all was just her boyfriend, but he brought a buddy, you know, of course.

I mean, you know, the hole's already cut. So she, yeah, so the idea that she, that anybody would do that is so over the top insane. And she downplays it like, it was Louisiana. I was like, oh, what? Why didn't you say so? Yeah. Wait, not to spoil the story, but did she end up doing time? Oh, yeah.

They made it all of like five days. Like five days later, they all get arrested. They get arrested. She ends up going to jail. I'm sorry, they all go to jail, but for some reason, he doesn't have, like, she's got like two and a half million dollars with a bond or something. He should have a hold on him because he's in federal prison. Like, technically, technically, you're in, not federal, sorry. he's in a state prison.

Yeah, he's in inmate. Right, but he escaped. So they arrest him on the on the escape. He literally gets a bond, a low bond, because for some reason, somebody didn't do something in the system to say, hold him.

He just escaped. Yeah. He actually gets a bond. That's, and somebody bonds him out. So then she's calling around, and she actually is in jail waiting to be sentenced,

and she's talking to him on the phone going, she's like, this is, like, I'm in jail right now and you're out there. Like, this is ridiculous. So, but they catch him again. You know, this guy, he, like, he's escaped. I don't know what she said five or six times. She's like, he's constantly getting in and out of jail.

I guess his whole life is like, I get out, I fuck up, I go back, I guess escape. Like, he's great at escaping prison. He's not great at life. Yeah. And they sound like it. You go to jail and you realize that there's lots of guys in there that, like, they know how to do time. Like, they can keep themselves comfortable. They have the hookup on everything.

They very quickly acclimate to the situation easily. And they're living as good as you can live in prison. But you realize, like, you got out and robbed the bank at the halfway house. Right. Then you went to prison for four years on that, right. Got back out, right. Then two years or two years into your probation, you got picked up for, you know, selling whatever. Right.

Went back for six years. Yeah. Then you got out and within a year you were caught for making, you know, you know, counterfeit money or, you know, for counterfeiting money. And they're like, right, right. You got four years for that. Yes. Then you, like they've been on, they've been in and out of custody their entire life, never got off probation. Yeah, it was provisable.

Yeah, never, never, never, never, never successfully completed a supervision of any guy. Since they were like 15, you're like, and yet you got here like six months ago, you're getting paid for two jobs that you're not working. People are coming to visit you every visitation you have someone coming. You've got a ton of food in your locker. Your clothes are pressed. You're somebody makes your bed. You've got a guy cleaning your room.

you're on two on a softball team a baseball team like you're like living the best you can live in here but you can't stay out of prison no i know you got it figured out inside but once they get out right they're like i know man i know it's crazy they're okay with it hey more power to them yeah that's just not me no no i'm i'm i gotta be done with this i mean you made the best of your situation. I'm trying to make the best of my situation. I'm definitely trying. I mean, while you were in there. Yeah, I made the best of it because I'm not still in there. Trimmed off 12 years. That's the way you do it. That's the way to do it. The way to do it is not to do it. Not everyone has Frank Omadeo at their disposal. Somebody else can do that. That's too much time for me.

We need to spread this around. You can Tommy, five, Jimmy, you can do two. Bill. Sorry, I'm not doing it. No. You're not, nobody's putting money on my books. No. So, yeah, Frank Amadeo. I'd love to get him on the podcast.

He'd be, he would be amazing. If he would, I don't know, just, I just, he's not going to do it. How much longer is he going to be in for? Huh? How much longer is he going to be in for? Is he out? He's out. He got himself out on the, um, the first step act.

He got himself out. Then after about a year and a half, they threw him back. back in prison they violated him for six months he got himself back out again and why haven't you got him on the show because he's he's just not going to he's not going to do it right now he's basically terrified because they threw him back in jail like they they literally the government just lied to get him thrown back in they were trying to get him thrown back in custody and he eventually went back in front of the judge and was like where's the proof of this where's the proof of that where's the proof the judge was like where's the proof of any of this stuff you guys are

saying he did and when they came up with well it was a it was a an anonymous call okay and we can't prove that he left the jurisdiction but uh um we we just got a call that we um well where's the proof he was wearing an ankle monitor where's the um well his probation officer said and the probation officer like doesn't show up like he was a whole just a cluster but you realize they were just desperate to try and get him thrown back into jail oh sure and now but he's back out again but Now everybody I've talked to is like, oh, he's terrified. Like now he doesn't do it. He doesn't barely afraid to go to work and back.

So no interviews whatsoever. Oh, I don't see him doing an interview. Plus, being in prison and telling your story, you're, you know, unencumbered by judgment. And he had 10 or 10 or so more years to go, 10 or 12 more years to go when he was, when I wrote his story. So, you know, he's thinking, like, he's just, he's surrounded by people that think all the things that he did were cool. And so then I write the story. He loved it. Love the story.

And I was, if you read the story, like, I was, I was brutal about just everything, his, from his mental condition, you know, to everything, everything, across the board, how he behaves, everything. And he loved it. Just the subtitle, I mean, I was surprising. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And think about it. Imagine someone saying that about you, you know, and you're just like, yeah. And he's like nice.

Yeah. I like it. And then, you know, it was all, everything's true. Yeah. Well, so then I get out of prison. I tell him, and he's still in prison, I'm communicating with him. I'm like, I'm going to blow this thing into a whole book. I want to start interviewing people.

I want to interview this guy, this guy. And he starts helping me arrange all those interviews from inside prison. Like he's calling these guys, he'll be interviewed. And I'm starting to set up the interviews. I interviewed one guy. one guy that he set up the interview with and we were going to do a second interview a more in-depth interview

and he suddenly and then suddenly Frank realized he was going to get out of prison so suddenly he realized the first step act actually was going to allow him like they got passed and he realized oh my gosh I'm actually this is going to work for me I'm actually going to get let out

and suddenly he called all these people and said don't be interviewed and I'm like wait a second like what I think happened was he started thinking to himself you know I'm going to get out and I'm having an opportunity to kind of rebrand myself I don't have to do 10 more years 10 or 12 more years so I have an opportunity to brand myself do I want Matt Cox to tell the story that he's telling like it's cool in here and no it doesn't hurt me in here but if I'm outside trying to Get back into being a, you know, being a raising capital or... Venture capitalist. Yeah, advising companies in bankruptcy or...

He doesn't want to be the emperor. Right. If I want to be a venture capitalist, like, I don't need this book floating around. Talk about poisoning villages. Right, exactly. So he kind of tried to put the kibosh on it. Well, what happened was I started making phone calls. I ended up getting a bunch of, I went through his discovery,

I did, and his docket sheet, and I got a bunch of affidavits that were filed by people about him, which were a lot like interviews. So now I was able to feather those in. I was able to go through this documentary and transcribe it and use the transcriptions of the documentary. Yeah. And so I use that as a transfer. And I used the first interview that I made with one of his guys. Then I contacted another one of his former business partners and interviewed him, which, Frank, he hadn't talked to him in eight years.

So it's before he went to prison. Right. So he couldn't contact him because he didn't know. I contacted him. I actually had a, I actually have a guy who contacted me and said, look, if you ever need to track somebody down, let me know I'm a private investigator. Absolutely. So he tracked this guy down. So I wrote the book with all of these guys help, help.

And I also ended up interviewing a guy who was a former CIA agent. Bustamante? Bustamante. That's how Danny met Bustamante. After I interviewed, after he read Frank's book and I did a huge interview with him throughout the whole book, I called Danny and said, you need to get this guy on. Dude, he's brilliant. I love Bustamante.

But listen to what happened with Danny. And so Danny's like, who is it? What? I don't know, bro. Are you sure? And I'm like, yeah, I'm sure. He goes, okay, give me his information. I'll contact him.

Two weeks later, nothing. I call him up. Did you talk to that guy? No, not yet. I'm going to, bro. I'm going to. Send me the information again. Fustamante then a week or two later sends me a thing saying, hey, I've never heard from this guy. You said this guy was going to contact me? I said, okay, call him again.

This went on for two months. Finally, Danny's like, calls me up. He's like, bro, man, I need somebody. I go, bro, I gave you a fucking guy. You gave him a great guy. Right. So he contacts him. He shows up two, three days later.

and then Danny like right after the episode or Danny calls me and he's like bro that dude's amazing that was it I'm like I'm not sending you scumbag idiots like this guy told you the guy's brilliant he's a former CIA

so he's had him on like four times now Boostamante's doing everybody's show yeah he did Sean Ryan right yeah he's done everybody he did Lex uh Lex Freeman the other day. Yep. Like, he's huge.

With the boot de Montta he won't return a text message from me now. Oh, he's too big time now. Oh, of course not. I talked to you.

Cox sounds familiar. Raise a bell. I think I talked to a guy named Kahn. Oh, that, that, the Kahn man?

Oh. I can't be associated with him. So, yeah. So anyway, I wrote that book. And here's the thing. Frank's read the book.

So I know, Frank's right. I actually was contacted by somebody who. Did he send him a copy? No. No, but I know he read it because, one, he's posted it on his Instagram account. He's sent people the link because I was, when he went to jail, somebody who was talking to him contacted me and said, listen, I can't get in touch with this guy. I don't know what happened. I said, well, how do you, how are you contacting me? She said, because I know you wrote a book about him. And I said, well, how do you know I wrote a book about him? And she said, because he sent me.

the link to the book and told me if I wanted to know about him to read the book. Do you think it's actually him on Instagram? Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. Here's why I think it's him because there are photographs of him that I've never seen and these are like

these are like family photos. So I really do think it's him. Yeah. Yeah. And like yeah, I definitely not just that. His lawyer contacted me one time through Instagram. because she contacted me through Instagram.

Yeah, it's him. I will, listen, it sounds to me like they just called the maintenance crew, so. Now, that's one they missed for count. It's never anything important, bro. That's ridiculous. Listen, when I was in a halfway house, if you didn't have a job, you had to clean like three times a day. They make you work in the kitchen here. it's the worst it's like it's bad enough that like i have to be here now i have to go work in this

fucking shithole kitchen like oh bro and they don't let you cook the food you're just like bagging bologna sandwiches and like it's just yeah but and at least when you have a job you're not in the halfway house all the time even though they're taking half your money but do they really take half? Yeah, so. 30%. So, like, I get like $1,000 a check

like every two weeks and I get to keep like a couple hundred bucks and then they take the other 800 and they put half towards restitution. Yeah. And then half to our savings.

And we get our savings when we go non-res. There's just, that's because they care about you. Dude, it's just a, It's just to reform us and help us. Yeah, it is. It is. The problem is you don't understand tough love.

That's the problem. You've been coddled. They're trying to help you. Totally. It's, yeah. Making $6 an hour, I feel the love. People helping people. So it's funny, at the halfway house in Tampa run by the Goodwill, they take 30% of your gross.

So think about it, 20% of your check goes toward taxes. Right. So they would take the gross and you have to write them a check for 30%. So you literally were getting, it ended up being like 47 cents on the dollar or something. It was like, I'm making 47 cents on the dollar. And then, you know, these guys are all pissed off like these bastards and this and they all wanted to go home. But I sat there one day and I, you know, put pen to paper and I was like, I can't live for less than that. like you know what I'm saying because if you did them like these guys fed us four times a day you know now granted you could pay for extra stuff but your base meal wasn't that bad you know the base meal wasn't horrible so it was like I get three meals a day I get a place to stay they take 30 percent I get 50 percent all of that I just I spit nothing like I made it I made it like a game to say to say they take 30 percent I get 50 percent all of that I just I spit nothing like I made it I made it like a game to say spend as little as I could across the board. That's pretty much what I do. Right. And like I remember one of the first things I did when I went to Walmart, I bought a pair of clippers, which I still

have to this day. I was giving myself a haircut. Why am I going to pay 30 bucks for somebody to cut my hair? For 40 bucks, I can get a pair of clippers. Every two weeks, I'm I mean, I still do it sometimes. Really? I mean, I still cut the sides of it down. That looks good. I pay 10 bucks

We got a couple of barbers in here Oh it's even better if you got a barber Yeah I'm not letting those guys cut my hair At this place Oh yeah I mean some of these guys are like legit barbers So I mean 10 bucks

Go to the laundry room Oh listen some of the barbers in prison Some of them are prison barbers Yeah you're not going to get a better barber Because think about it They can spend some time on your hair They're not trying to mash them out They're like it's perfect

it's you know they're they're really like artisans you can be an artisan right you can be an artisan when you don't have to pay your bills yeah right it becomes just about the finished product and not about not about getting them done as quick as possible yeah that's true so but yeah I just didn't want to use the clippers and stuff

at the place you know those some of these guys are such just disgusting yeah this I'm sure you're fine he cleans shit like he has an apron nice clippers it's legit but as far as living off of

like you couldn't live off what you were getting bro even if I was getting all 1450 an hour that I make right of living here is so crazy

like yeah you can't get a one better apartment for less than like 1400 oh yeah that's how it is and and it's funny my rent here

is actually pretty reasonable but I had an apartment that was about $14 to $1,500 for a one-bedroom apartment. In downtown Tampa? No, no. This was in a suburb. But it was brand new.

It was a brand-new complex. Now, I could have gotten for $900 a month or $1,000. I probably could have got a one-bedroom. Place would have been 20 or 30 years old. It probably wouldn't have been the... Like, this place was a gated community. Everything was nice. It was super nice.

Everything was brand new. Like, I was the first person to live there. Yeah, like $1,400 here. You're getting in one-bedroom, and it's... It's like 50 years old. Yeah, no. Dirty carpet. No, like my, I live in what's, this place is probably over, probably 21, 2,200 square feet.

I have a, I have a four-bedroom, three-bath house with a two-car garage built three years ago. And how much? And how much is it? 2,600, 2650, actually, 2650. Pretty expensive. no that's not bad you're the head it is yeah no for what it is that's great but I can't afford that making 14 15 an hour

right well I can't afford it either like I ever we have a roommate we have you know oh really yeah yeah listen I've written out all the words if I could what was it come out to like with your roommate you know we're still paying like 1900 something a month which is great for that right

and you know it comes with my I got my studio in the middle of it. You know, you have your art studio there too, right? Or is that in the garage? Yeah, that's great. Can't even work in the garage. You can't even walk out. It's Florida. You can't even walk outside right now. How hot is it? It's like a hundred here, bro.

But we don't have humidity. No, the humidity will kill you. Yeah. I sold me a car. Your Jeep? Yeah. Why? I sold it. Why? Because I drove it like I haven't had it over a month, but like the month, the last month I

had it. I drove it like three times in a month. And I was like, what am I doing? Why do I have to car now? Yeah, but we don't go anywhere. We go to the gym in the morning. Jess drives us both to the gym in the morning. She dropped me off. She leaves. She goes to work. I don't know what happened. I don't know where she's going during the day. She goes somewhere. She comes back with a paycheck. Um, you know, so, so if I need to go somewhere, like, I'll go, I'll wait on the weekends. And then I'm like, hey, I need to go to Home Depot. And she's like, cool. Let's go. And if I had to, I could borrow her car, but I think I did have to go to the, I did travel to fuck, I don't even know where I went like Indianapolis or something. No, wait, Columbus, Ohio. I went to

Columbus like two, three weeks ago. And I took, you know, I think, no, did she drop me on? At Uber. You moved there, right? No, I know, but I'm talking about going to the airport. Okay, yeah. I thought you were saying at first that you were driving there. I was like, that's far drive. did I Uber there? I think I Ubered there. That's it, but it's like, it was like 30 bucks.

Yeah. Is that nothing? What are you paying for your car, $4 or $500? I was paying like $3.75. The plus insurance was a couple hundred. A couple hundred? Yeah. A month.

It was almost, yeah, but it's like, it was like $1,200 every, it's like $1,100 or something every six months. It's like $200 a month. You don't have any DUIs. anything. That sounds high. No, no, ticket, nothing. I had one ticket I went to driving school. I mean, the last 15 years, you haven't really been

driving much. None. And I'm old. Right. Yeah. I live out in the middle of nowhere. That's crazy. I know. It's a lot. You just shop around. Yeah, he should chop around. It was a Geico. There's better rates

out than a Geico, trust me. Yeah. Oh, my God. Well, listen, I'm not going to Like, I'm going to try, we're going to try and save money to buy a house, so. You know, not like I used to do it. I was going to say, I was trying to think of something. Legit, you need to actually put down a down payment. You can't get it back.

Like, what do you mean that's gone? You can't, can't we write a check out of the closing to a construction company? No, Mr. Cost, this is their money. That's crazy. Can we bump up the purchase? Just let Jess handle that. You shouldn't even go. It's going to be too.

Too much temptation. First of all, I can't even think about it. She's got to buy a house anyway. She'd have to buy it, or we got to get owner financing. Can't buy it in my name. So. You want it, like $6 million. Oh, yeah.

They're just going to attach to the house. I can't do that. I'm not stupid. Yeah. I would just be, that would, like, I might as well rent. Yeah. You don't have trouble finding renters with, like, your record? No, because the, when they run you, your federal record doesn't,

show up. Yeah, they have to pay, so to get your federal record to show up, they have to pay like 80 or 100 bucks or something. And most renter's companies out here, they pay like the $40 one, which is just for state. No shit. Yeah. And even the federal one, I think it only goes back. If they do it, it only goes back so far.

And then the feds don't report for, like after seven years or nine years or something, they don't report. Because trust me, I've, every place I've been, I've been brand. brand new complexes, every single place has said, you don't have a record. But I stopped saying it. Yeah. Why bring that up? Yeah, totally.

I mean, you know, it's just silliness. What's really funny is that my landlord, who I, you know, nope, I said, nope, I'm good. Ran a check everything. And then a year later sent me a text one day and said, I just saw you on TV. I was going to, I was waiting for that. I was like, however they not seen the home title act? And I was like, and I, I just sent him the emoji with the big eyes. That one, you know, though.

And he just, he put, just said back, you know, ha, ha, ha, ha. He goes, it's not a big deal. Listen, and he renewed my lease after that. Wow. Yeah. We've never talked about it. Hey, maybe he watches the show. I know.

Like, here's the thing. What, if you saw me on TV and I had given you the name, you know, Lee Black, The fact that I gave you my name, like, I can't do anything in my name. Right, right. If I say, if I introduce you as Matt Cox and I say I'm going to do something, I have to do it. Yeah. I introduce you, introduce myself to you as, you know, David Silver. You better.

You better watch out. You've got some problems coming your way. But, you know, so he probably looked into it and said, ah, he's good. Plus, I'm on probation. Like, all he's got to do is call my probation officer. I'm done. never be in front of my judge again. Why?

He's going to kill me, no matter what it is. It's like, oh, Mr. Cox, oh, you were jaywalking. Well, let's give you 10 years to think about that. No matter what it is, he's got to be like, oh, no, no, no, no. They just not. I don't think he has it out for me. I think he thinks I got a stiff sentence, which I know he believes he gave me a stiff sentence, the guy within the guidelines, but he also gave me a huge break.

you know like he gave me 12 years off of a 26 year sentence that who knows i probably whether i think i had it coming or not under the guidelines i probably i did not have it coming under the guidelines so well really that's not true part of it i did have coming i really feel like i had the whole thing coming but i think he was he realizes that he didn't have to lean my way he didn't have to do it he probably would have slept like a baby had he not done it and he said you know what i really think he got hammered so i'm and i do think that these things he's done he was promised he was told to do them you know why did he do him did he do him because he's a changed man like he even says that in my sentencing he's like i i can't determine that doesn't matter

why right right it right it matters that i was told to do it i did it i was i believed i was was doing it for a reason that I was told, and they were going to reduce my sentence. That's what I was told. So he, and I'm sure he understands, like, what a horrible position I was in. And so he, he cut me a break. So, you know, like, I don't have, you know, a lot of guys, like, hate their, their, their, their, their, the U.S. attorneys or their, sorry, the, or in your case, like, the district attorneys and like, he hated me and fuck that guy. And I don't feel like that. Like, I feel like the, the sentence and guidelines are, they're draconian in the federal system. They're just, they're just, they're horrendous.

I mean, bro, how did Elizabeth Holmes get 10 years and stole how much billions of dollars? Right. And you get 26. Right. And she went to trial. Like, like, she didn't go in and say, look. She didn't go in and say, look, I fucked up. I want to plead guilty.

I want to take, nope, she's paid. You got 26 years. That's crazy. She went in and said, I'd do nothing. Yeah, she didn't even admit. Right, no, except it's the responsibility to nothing. I mean, the only thing with you is, like, you made them look like fucking idiot. Right.

And they hate bad pressed. Yeah. They do hate bad. You made them look bad. So. They made them all look bad. So, I think, you know what's so funny is I have a buddy who does legal work for inmates. He actually knows several inmates.

in the same prison as Elizabeth Holmes. Really? Yeah. Is it Rassini? No, I don't want to say who it is. So, no, Rassini's in prison. He's not in a female prison. This is the guy on the outside who does legal work.

Yeah, yeah. But, you know, from my understanding is like she, like the first few months she was in, like she was having a bad time. They're like she's like she doesn't want to take a shower. Like she's on the computer. Oh, she's thinking about. imagine the like she never really did any time the idea that she went in i'm saying up to this she was on she was on house arrest yeah so now you're going in in a mansion yeah yeah even if

you're going to like just going from having everything in the world like i couldn't have i couldn't imagine it was bad enough she she's going from up here to below zero You know, she's, and so they were just like, like, she's, she stumbles around. She's depressed. She all she does is want to sleep. She's on the computer. She, she's, like, mumbling to herself. Like, she doesn't look like she wants to take a shower.

Like, she's just, like, her clothes are fucked up. They're like, you could tell she's going through it. I'm sure. You know, she started to really sink in. I'm going to be here a while. There's nothing I can do. What, have you heard updates? Like, what's, what she's doing now?

I mean, she's already gotten a few years off her sentence. She won something, and they knocked some time off her symptoms. I don't even know why, but, you know, and she's going to get, like, these FSA credits that they have. They have this whole thing on the first step change. She's going to end up doing, because they're not going to do six or seven years. You think? That long? Yeah.

Maybe. It wasn't 10. I thought it was like 11 or 12. Wasn't 11 or 12. But she's got a couple years. So she's probably at 10 now. She, yeah, she's, let's say six years. I'll bet she does six years.

And then what did fucking Sunny get, like 15 or 20 or something? He got more time, didn't he? She blamed it all on him. Yeah, that's a bad poor guy, man. You know, like, he just got fucked. A jury didn't like that mean Indian man taking advantage of that poor innocent white woman who happens to be a pathological liar. Yeah.

Who speaks like this and weird. Her point, yeah, she didn't sound like that, by the way. Everybody in prison is like, they totally drop that. Like, that's out the window. Like my little con man, I'm a reincarnation of Steve Jobs bullshit. Yeah, that's over. Good. You know what she was going for.

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