Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Things Nobody Tells You About Being in Prison

Episode Date: May 9, 2024

Things Nobody Tells You About Being in Prison

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Conditions apply. Like, when I watched your shit with Big Hurd, I was laughing my ass off because I'm like, dude, this guy's nailing it. And, like, you could have really, I mean, you could have busted him out. I was concerned. You don't realize it when you see the video, but that could have gone bad for me. The West Watson and all these guys, they did all this shit, right? But they kept them in these mediums and stuff like that. Let me explain something to you.

They all did it. They all told them their friends. You know what I mean? It's all facts, you know? There's no honor amongst. Yeah, I was, I was born in Baltimore City. and I was raised in Baltimore City. My father was in prison, so I didn't, my mother, you know, she was there, but really my grandparents

raised me because my grandparents, they were good people, but they didn't have a lot of money or anything like that because, you know, basically my family was just like, there's a lot of drug addicts, criminals, prostitutes, things like that. So I was growing up in that type of environment. and the first time, like, I met my father. I was nine years old, and he escaped from prison. So when he escaped from prison, my mother took me to meet him or whatever. And he was like, from that point right there, he started grooming me.

You know, like, he would tell me, like, first off, he was smoking weed with me. You know what I mean? He's the first person who smoked weed with me when I'm nine years old. So he's sitting here. He basically groomed me, like, how he was like, yeah, I don't want no soft son, all that kind of stuff now any any kid nowadays i look at him as a scumbag but any kid always looks at their father's like you know a superhero right whatever you know so i thought the guy was cool so he's basically he would groom me like and tell me like certain shit you know

like yeah you got you know basically how to commit crimes you know he's taught me how to do hot shots and i'm not talking about a car right you know what a hot shot is when people put stuff in people's drugs to get rid of him and stuff like that now i've never done done that but like that's the type of um person he was so i would i think good at school and everything like that like i was like the i was like the bad kid in the nerd class so i always hung with the you know with the kids who got in trouble things like that so eventually i started out really commit the crimes with i would like rob baseball card shows and stuff like that go to a baseball card show take your cards in and swipe the people's cards

at the table and all. But I had to do stuff like that because I didn't have no debt. My family didn't have money. I didn't have Jordans and stuff like that. So I had to get my own stuff. Right. Because nobody wants to go to school.

When you're going to a city school, especially back in them days, like they have this bully and stuff now and all, but like you can't go in there dressed all. You know what I mean? Right. Like you're not going to make it. So I started doing stuff like that.

And then, you know, just getting in with, you know, just I liked it. You know, where I'm from, it wasn't cool to, like, get good grades. It wasn't none of that. You know, it was cool to get locked up. It was cool to have the police after you, you know, sell drugs. So when I got into selling drugs, honestly, the first time, we were in the woods. And we were kids, like, we're teenagers.

And we're looking for, like, snakes and shit like that. Dude, rolled over and found a stash. It was probably, like, to my knowledge today, it's probably like a half-keyed cocaine. you know it was a bunch of valves and stuff that's already bagged up and everything so i'm like shit i know drug addicts from my family you know what i mean all through the neighborhood so i start going to the bars and i start selling coat by the time i realized how to sell it i mean back then cocaine was so expensive i'm probably selling eight balls for like 50 bucks you know what i mean so finally this lady told me like no you got to get a scale and everything like that and so i learned

that. So eventually it starts getting bigger. You're getting to a higher level. And we have a little crew, guys like me, everybody's raised by our grandparents. So we're on the streets all night, do whatever. There's a place called Baltimore Block. It's just full of strip clubs. Now it's probably a quarter of the size that it used to be. Back then, it was wide open. A lot of the girls that we knew they were strippers and honestly they were under age you know they were our age i was going to say how are you yeah i was going to say at this point right yeah 15 60 okay right yeah so i yeah i'm about 15 years old so what i would do was we would make up these things we call them gpacks and people call it crack whatever but we called it ready rock you know it's just

cooked up coat so like my whole my grandmother street about like three o'clock in the afternoon because all the strippers would go to work at like 4 o'clock. So the whole street will be lined up with yellow cabs because there wasn't Uber or nothing back then. And it was strippers. So I'm coming out. I'll come out 3 o'clock and I'm giving them all their G-packs so they can go to work and they can sell it.

And then, you know, so that's where we started getting a lot of money. Now, there was an indictment that came down. They indicted the whole Baltimore street. It was a federal indictment. We were on the top of the, federal indictment. So we run down to our lawyers when we hear about it. Well, the feds can't indict you if you're under 18 unless it's got like murders involved or something. So they took us off for that. But then anyway, the whole indictment, you don't hear about it nowadays, they just

put the whole thing under the, you know, hit it because there was actual cops that were actually having sex with the girls, smoking crack, a couple states attorneys, stuff like that. So, you know, they had to put that on a hush. And it was easy to hush things back then. There was no social media right so i wound up there was some shit i went to like jail or something like for stupid shit you know i wound up beating the case and i get out and i'm setting up this uh drug deal this girl pages me this is back in the day of pagers and she's like hey you know um these guys so much trying to kill you i'm like yeah tell them to get in line you know what i mean but she's like well how would i know that you're doing this this

week. So I'm like, shit, she knows what she's talking about. Well, whatever deal they were going to do, they were going to do the deal first time. And then the second time, they were going to rob me and kill me. So I'm like, okay, I'll get these. So I turned around. I called up a couple of my home boys. We wound up robbing them. But a whole bunch of shit just happened and people, you know, a car crashed when they were, I'm sitting there in a car. They're supposed to come rob me and should they crash into the car, all this shit. Anyway, I get away with the cash. So when I get away with the cash, So when I get away with the cash, the police obviously get involved because there's a guy handcuffed in the bushes and somebody's bushes, you know what I mean? So next thing you know, I had to run. I went on the run to Florida. I was 19 at the time. So I went on the run to Florida for a couple years. So I was down in Boko Raton, Florida, and everything like that. So when I come back, I come back to Maryland, I wind up turning myself in. I beat the case. And now after after that's it,

situation, I go ahead and I grab some Coke or whatever and I start jamming. I put a little crew together. I got all the bars in my area. They're locked down. You know what I mean? I got probably like $60,000 a weekend. You know, we're pulling in at these bars. Well, eventually a lot of shit starts happening because people come from different areas, try to rob us, stuff like that. You know, I get into a few things, you know, go to war with a couple people, whatever. so what happens is we're in front of this bar it's called the garden in and it's like three o'clock at the morning and i didn't even have no coke or nothing at this at you know this night but it's me and my buddies we're all hanging out so all of a sudden his white neon pulls up now when the white

neon pulls up this guy gets out big black guy you know he's comes walking down he's like what's up and he's it's like in new york he's trying to sound like he's from new york or he may have been from New York. But see, I've been to New York at this point. So I'm like, man, this guy's some strange dude. He's like, who's white boy eat? White boy eat? I'm like, why do you want to know that? He's like, no, I'm just trying to get like a half or whatever. So I'm thinking, I'm like, so you're from New York where I get my coat from. So you're coming all the way down here to get something's not right. So as he comes walking up, I give a nod to my buddy, you know, to fucking knock the guy out, whatever, and we're just going to whip his ass. Well, my buddy misses.

So the guy runs towards me. I hit him. So we all jump on this guy. We start this guy up. And I mean, I'm a big dude. I'm like 6-2, probably 250. Now, my friends, they were bigger than me. They were like the type that wore like Timberlins in the summertime, you know, the camouflage, you know.

They were like real thugs. So we're kicking this, doing everything. Next thing you know, a bus, because we're right in the main street, an NTA bus comes around, has to swerve around, and I see the guy on the thing. So I'm like, all right, come on, let's get out of here. So now, when we get out of there, we go to this place, I used to call it the Batcave. It was this house that we, you know, where we run to if there's problems, figure out our plan. So we get to the Batcave, and I page my younger brother.

He's passed away now. So I page my younger brother, and I tell him to give me a call. So he calls me. I said, look, and now this is like 4 o'clock in the morning. I said, look, walk up to Crackhead, Timmy's house, because that's the house that we were all hanging at. I said, go up to Crackhead Tindy's house, tell me what's going on. So about 20 minutes later, he pages me. He's like, man, Eric, some shit really happened up there.

I'm like, what are you talking about? He's like, somebody killed a police officer. I'm like, whoa, what the, right? So now I probably only got like 100 grand liquid cash. And it's like four of us. So I'm like, but I got to take my friends with me. So I'm like, are you sure he's like, is it the black guy that you guys were beating his ass?

Is that the cop? Yes. Well, yes. I'm about to get into that. It wasn't. Okay. Oh, okay. I was going to say, fuck, that went bad.

Right. I'd be under the jail. So, look, the actual police could have got in trouble for this. And this, I'll tell that part. So I was like, do you know what's going on? He's like, well, I don't know, totally. I said, tell Crackhead to me to page me. So about 10 minutes later, crackhead Timmy page me.

I'm like, what's up, man? What are they talking about? A cop got killed or something again. He's like, man, they just took all the girls and everything. everything down the police station or asking questions about you. And, you know, actually nobody told, but anyway, he wasn't a cop. He was not a cop and he didn't die. What it was was he was, the cops dropped him off to get him to make a control by from me

because they wanted to, you know, set me up or whatever. And when the paramedics and all got there, he's laying in the middle of street, the guy couldn't, you know, he couldn't talk. So the paramedic lady was like, well, that's the reason. His tongue was out of his mouth. I guess when we were kicking him or whatever, he did his tongue off. So now. It's horrible, bro.

I'm like, cool. We really ain't got going to run or nothing. So I go set up shopping in a hotel, Ramada Inn, that's in the county. So we do that for a couple months, let things cool down. I get back around the neighborhood. Now, this is December. I get raided. Narcotic squad raids my apartment.

So when they raid my apartment. You're at the Ramada end or your apartment? No, no. This is when I came back. Okay, I came back. So, um, they raid my apartment. They don't find nothing or whatever, but, um, they locked me up, handcuffed me and everything. It was like, Ted, I had like 20-some thousand in there.

They said I had 6,000. Go figure, you know. Well, anyway, the one cop, the main narcotics cop, he walks me out into, like, the hallways in the apartment by myself. And he's like, if you ever seen New York undercover back in the day. Listen, everything you're saying, And the, I, the, the, the, um, the neon, like, nobody knows what a neon. Like, I remember the neon, you know, you're talking about page or like, you know, I, every time I say, every time I say something to my wife, like I mentioned, yeah, yeah, no, I remember this guy paged me and she, she, she giggles, you know, she paged you.

Yeah. They don't know the struggle. I know. So, so he, he walks me in the hallway. Now, like, New York undercover, remember the black cop J.C. or. whatever you want the big dude he looks just like him right so he gets me in the hallway and he's like he's like he points outside and he's like you can see through the glass you know how like apartment buildings are set up there's a white neon out there he's like you see that white neon and i looked and i'm like he's like that's mine and he's seen the look on my face and he said don't worry about it he's like i can't do nothing about that because we'll get in trouble basically because they left him on his own.

So I'm like, okay, so what's the point of this? I'm just like standing there. And he's like, but let me tell you something. He's like, if I ever catch you alone, I'm going to blow your brains out. So I was like, and look, I was cocky. I said, well, let me tell you something. I said, if I were, I catch you alone, I'm going to blow your brains out. So that started the, Jesus.

It was like a war. So I get out. I get out at that point. I get out on bail for that. So everywhere I went, Matt, it was just terrible. Like, I would get pulled over. I had like an agro legend back then. And they would cut my seats.

They would do everything. But they never caught me with nothing. So now, me and my buddy, he's so stupid. I was down to Ocean City. I shouldn't call him buddy. But I was down to Ocean City. And I came back, I just came back from Ocean City. Now, we had two apartments in this place called Lock Graydon Village that's in the county,

where all our drugs and stuff were supposed to be at. Now, this, see, he had him at his girlfriend's apartment or whatever. So they had seen me go there and they raided it. So, me and him were driving. Next thing you know, we're surrounded. Now, this

is a black dude, but he was like, he wasn't a street dude at all, man. So he's like this. The guy jumps out of the car, the cop, jumps out of the car, he's got the gun. He's like, what's going on? What's going on? I said, that's the cops. What do you think's going on? so they yank us out of the car and stuff like that so i got no drugs on me once again so i'm laughing at him you know and he's like yeah you're laughing he's like what about and he said the address

right of the dude's girlfriend so i'm just looking then i look at my buddy he's like it's true and he's like halfway fates so now we get to jail all right central book in that it ain't even like Baltimore city jail or nothing so they give me no bail they give him like a 50,000 dollar bail, you know, something light. But anyway, we're sitting there in jail and he's, he's scared to death. He's like, look, they're looking at her tennis shoes. They're looking at the, I said, man, ain't nobody taking nothing to nobody, man. What that's wrong with this guy, right? So he gets out on bail. I have no bail. Well, the girl I was with at the time, she was pregnant with my, with my daughter. She was probably about like six months pregnant, something like that. So I had

my grandfather. I had my, I had her, and I had like two lawyers, and I had a bail review in a few days. So first off, in a bail review, you're not, they're not supposed to be there. The whole narcotic squad shows up, and they're sitting there like, you know, telling the prosecutor, like, say this, say that, whatever. So the judge wound up giving me a quarter million dollar cash bail. So I was out that night. So when I get out that night, I'm catching a cab to to the girl's house because they confiscated. Can I ask you a question?

You said a quarter of a million dollar cash bail. What does that mean? Well, listen, that's just fancy terms. You know what I mean? It means I can't post property or anything like that. You can still go through a bondsman. Oh, okay. You know what I mean?

And put up cash. So I wound up putting up probably like 15,000 or whatever just to get out. Yeah, a lot of times people say stuff like that. And people get to be putting out. I didn't put up a quarter million. Right. Okay. So I'm catching that.

the cab and I tell the cab to stop to get some cigarettes for 7-Eleven when I do I walk in there this is the narcotic cut he's in there so I see this I'm like Jesus Christ you know so from that point it turned into a tailspin of just like it was held so I get a hold of my buddy and I told him I said dude listen I said uh you're not dope for this it's my fault because the heat was on me but you shouldn't have the drugs there but look I said what we'll do is we'll play this as long as possible, and at the end of the day, I won't let you go to prison. I was like, they want me. So I'll cut a deal where I just go to prison. So instead of taking my word for that or whatever, it winds up, I found that later. He was telling him for some other shit. So everything,

everything plays out. And I wound up, my lawyer called me an idiot because I could have beat the case. But what happened was I go to court for just, you know, regular, you know, the district court or whatever for like one of my like, you know, the preliminary hearings or whatever. Right. So this is how they faked it out. And this is so dumb. I wind up as I'm in court, the narcotics people are there and the prosecutor was down with this. The prosecutor said, oh, also, we have an indictment for the girl who I had pregnant. You see what I'm saying?

So I freak out. Now, we're in the middle of courtroom. I called the guy a bitch. He said something to me. So we're almost fighting the middle of courtroom. Judges like hitting his gavel, like, stop, stop, all this type of shit, right? So anyway, I get out there. But here's what's up.

It was never an indictment. That was just bullshit to put pressure on me. She was cooperating with the guy, okay? She was sleeping with him and everything eventually. So I didn't know this, right? So when I wind up, I wind up, we go to court, and I told my lawyer, I said, well, I said, I just want, I know they want me, I just want a deal, whereas so nobody else goes to prison, you know, just me. And he said, you're an idiot, you know, because I could beat it. But that's what I did.

So I cut everybody loose, right? So back then, this was in, that was around like 1999. Back then down here, there wasn't all this, you know, killing witnesses and all that kind of stuff. Well, there was, but then they finally passed the law that they, you know, now they conceal it. Well, it used to be a law that if they investigated you for something and they closed the investigation, they had to send you. And, you know, you came up, you know, clear. They would send you what they just did. Like, they would be like, we were investigating you or whatever.

So I'm in prison. I'm sitting on my bunk. I get this big pack of illegal mail. It's not for my lawyer. I'm like, what if it's this? I start reading it. This is a scumbag, right? That I told him, look, I'm not going to let you go to prison.

I did it. You know, he was telling on me for some shit. It had nothing to do with me and him, right? But I had got robbed. These dudes robbed me and pistol with me. So, and this is crazy how I wound up not getting in trouble for this. Because, you know, he's supposed to be my friend. He thinks, and I didn't know either.

the guy's day because I went back and I shot the guy right so they do their whole investigation he's telling on that they find the guy that I had shot the guy's in a wheelchair you know what this guy did they showed him my picture everything this guy said I've never seen that guy in my life and look he knew my first and last name right I knew his first and last name you know what I mean so that's why that ended so I'm like holy shit man I'm like everybody just cutting my throat left to right all these people i've tried to you know next you know he's sleeping with the same chick with the with my baby's mother i hate to say that the term but that's what it is my baby's mother or whatever right so he's sleeping with her who the the the prosecutor the guy that got

shot the guy no not the guy got shot the guy that my co-defendant that i cut loose oh okay look i cut loose him my baby's mother his girlfriend and one of my buddies he's passed away now but So I'm glad I did it because he was a good dude. I know how you say the good dude thing. But, you know, in our world, he's a good guy. Right. I mean, I like that. So anyway, I'm totally like, like, it's just, like, it's just like crazy.

It's like some type of movie shit. So now this guy's still out there, right? So I already know I'm in prison. I'm about to come home. And I'm sitting here. He's still out there. He's running around, whatever, doing whatever. So I'm like, I'm waiting to come home.

Well, before I even come home, I'm probably. probably six months to the door, somebody wound up killing him. He got shot like 30-some times or something, right? So the first thing they think, obviously, you know what I mean? That I had something to do it, but I'm at prison. You know what I mean? They came up to the jail.

I get called down to the lieutenant's office, and I used to sell cigarettes. I would get cartons. I would smoke my newports. I get cartons of newports, and I would get these big bags of tobacco for like 13 bucks. like four figures across the bag, I'd sell for $20, you know, just hustling and stuff like that. So I figure I'm getting called to lieutenant's office for that. But the fat lieutenant, he was a fat lieutenant, and he used to come in, you could just bribe him with honeybuns. You know what I mean?

Just get, so I'm figuring he's just coming down there telling me, you know, watch myself or whatever. I go in there. It's two cops. It's the one cop that hates me or whatever. So he's screaming, I got you now, you son of a bitch, all this stuff. I'm like, what this is this dude talking about? And then there was a white cop. cop. So, and there was never no white cops in, um, on their narcotic squad. It was all black.

So I'm like, what that's going on? So I'm sitting down. Now the white cop comes up and he's giving me like a massage. You know what I mean? He's like, it's okay. Eric, it's okay. I'm like, what's up? So the other one's yelling at me, you know, good cop, band cop. So then they show me a picture. First thing they show me is the picture of the guy dead. And I'm like, whoa, you know what I mean? It didn't look too good, right? So then they show a picture. him with my baby's mother because he was under investigation too you know so he wasn't out of the streets obviously that's how he probably wound up getting killed so anyway so I'm sitting there and I act like I play into a little bit I'm like oh my god so the white cop he thinks he's got me

he's like it's okay here it's okay just tell me it's okay unburden yourself right right he's like what do you think I was like you know what I think I said I think he got wet up you know what I I was like, and I think that you got to get them out of here because I didn't request for you to come here. Get them out here. So they wind up leaving or whatever. So I wind up getting out. Now, when I get out, how much time did you do on that? That was six years. I did four years on that. Jesus. Okay, you did four years. Yeah, my first time, you know. So, and that's the state. So I wind up getting out. Now, at that point, I still have. had probably around 200, you know, I mean, somewhere around 200 grand that was in my grandfather's dresser drawer the whole time. So I get out, I got money. I started carpet, cleaning business, everything like that. Now, when I come around, the first day I got out, I go up to this car dealership. See, they used to sell. Stop. Do you know how fast you were going? I'm going to have to write you a ticket to my new movie, The Naked Gun.

Liam Nissan. Buy your tickets now. I get a free Tilly Dog. Chili dog not included The Naked God tickets on sale now August 1st Plus cars when we were actually Not even old enough to drive But how we would do that was You know

Remember back in the day They would have like the paper tags You know the temporary tags So what they would do was Since we weren't old enough to drive Have insurance and all that kind of stuff Every month we would go up Give them like $500 for another tag

For another month You know what I mean So we would be able to drive the cars around So I remember remember this deal of shit. But now it's new owners. So my first day out, I walk up there with like 20 grand cash. I got to get a car. So I walk up there. So they called the old owner like, who is this guy? The old owner is like, yeah, go ahead, deal with them. I buy this, um, Accura RL, like 3.5. So this is 2003 when I got out. So it was like a 2001 or something like that. And it was the owner's

daughter. So it was like, it was nice. So that first night, I go to this bar. It's called Tullies. I get shit-faced drunk. So my baby's mother shows up there, obviously. You know what I mean? So I was talking to some other girl or whatever. She winds up punching me in the mouth. So I leave.

But then I take my keys and I leave. And I'm so trashed. And now it's like January. So you know how you get that, well, you're from Florida. So you don't got to, you might not know about this. But you get that real light snow where it's like slippery. You know, so it was like that out. So I'm going down Bel Air Road, probably like close to 100 miles an hour.

and I'm trashed. I look down for my cell phone. That's back when that big next-toll cell phones and shit. Right. So I look down for my cell phone. When I look up, I don't hit a pole. I don't hit a bunch of shit. Car spins.

I wind up almost going into the gas station. But I just avoided the gas station. So cars basically almost split in half. And I'm in the motherfucker. Fire department stations right across street. They're coming over with like hitting on the car with that axes and all this shit. So I'm like, oh, whoa, whoa. Back up.

I was into powerlifting shit back then. So I'm just like, boom, boom. So I knocked the door open. I get out. I see what's going on. Now, I walk to the, I'm at the gas station. So I go get me a pack of cigarettes. Now, all the police are there by this point.

So I smoke, start smoking a cigarette. And I just, like, sit down on the curb and, like, pass out. I hear, like, my baby's mother and stuff, like, oh, my God, they're in a car, man. Oh, my God, he's dead. She runs around the side and sees me laying there. And I'll just look at her. I'm like, no, I'm not dead. This is your fault, you stupid bitch, you know?

So they can't breathalyzer or nothing because you're in an accident. So now they take me to the hospital. I still had my actual license that I didn't get back. You know, they're supposed to confiscate that. So I rolled out of the hospital. This is my first day out. I'm like, I don't understand prison or nothing. And I'm like, damn, I'm definitely violated parole.

So eventually I didn't violate parole. So I get a check for, I don't. I paid $20,000 for that car, and I get a $26,000 check back. Nice. Right. You know what I mean? So I was like, use it's the other end. So I go ahead, I'll buy an escalate.

So now remember, I'm not selling drugs at this point. But everybody knows I've just crashed this car. Now I got to escalate. And I would come around and I had a real bad alcohol problem. But I would always, I had one, all the jewelry, smelled good, looked good, pockets full of money. So, you know, nobody felt sorry for me. It was just like, you know, I'm an asshole. Now, my buddy, here's how the feds get on me.

My buddy, he's selling drugs. Now, he's selling coke or whatever. So they set him up like this. If he wasn't doing nothing big, it was like quarter ounces, half ounces and stuff. So this kid got caught, and he wound up becoming like an informant. Tried to set my buddy up for a controlled buy of something small. So he meets my buddy in a strip club.

now he comes to a strip club with the cop but you know he's an undercover cop this guy gets up to take a piss not the cop the informant gets up to take a piss my buddy slides his number to the cop like trying to cut this guy out of the deal

he's like look you can get better shit if you come directly to me or whatever right so he stole a customer but he stole the goddamn wrong customer right so next thing you know this cop I guess just you know for a quarter

ounces next thing you know he's calling for quarter keys and stuff and we had another friend his name was eric and he sold drugs or whatever so they there were surveillance in my buddy and they called i think they called him for like 2 000 e-pill not 2,000 excuse me like 200 e-pills um like a the key of coke or something and he said yeah i'm waiting on eric so they're doing surveillance now they'll see me because we would go out with chicks you know what me go out to the clubs and stuff. So they would see me pull up now. I'm a drug dealer with known drug dealer.

I've been out of prison a month. I'm pulling up in an escalade jewelry on everything like that. So who's Eric? I'm Eric. Right. You know what I mean? Even though it wasn't. So, long story short on that one, I, um, they start watching me or whatever with him.

And then I did get back into, you know, selling, selling Coke or whatever. So I go ahead. But even if I wouldn't have, I would have. probably got invited anyway. So eventually they, they wind up, it was like August of O'3. I'm living near Pennsylvania. Now, my younger brother, he's still living around the neighborhood in, like, the family home, my grandparents' home or whatever.

Now, my grandparents, they're not there enough. I got my grandmother passed away. I think my grandfather was in the hospital or something. So I get a call from him. He's like, Eric, the police are raiding the house. It's a raid in the house. He's like, yeah, on Kvon. I'm like, so I'm pissed.

I think it's the state police. I'm right around that area. I'm in Baltimore City at the time doing something. I was at a bar club or something. I said, I'm coming there. She's like, no, don't. So I did, right? Dude, when I come there, they handcuffed me and everything like that.

I'm cussing out. I know nothing's at this house. I don't even live in this house, right? So they don't find nothing. So they have to handcuff me and everything. But I did notice this. They jumped in my escalate and they took my escalate. So when they're leaving

Now another thing I noticed There was like a black Narcotics cop But he had a whole mask or whatever So you couldn't see his face But he was the only black guy there This was white guys I'm like what was you know what I mean

They anybody changed You know what I mean So I'm cussing out as they go out the door This dude turns around He looked like if you ever seen law and order He looked like the guy in law and order He pulls out the U.S. Marshal thing or whatever Right

You know, the big event. He's like, yeah, he's like, we're coming back here. You've never dealt with nothing like us. I'm like to ask you, whatever. I know nothing about the feds. Right. So. What about your car?

Well, this is what happens. So the next day, I go to my lawyer's office. All right. So I go in there and he handled a lot of shit for me, you know, like business stuff and everything like that. And I go in there. I'm like, Gary, man, look, I just got raided last night. They didn't find nothing. You know, what, you know, they took my truck.

You know, I still had another car. I said, I had a BMW. But he's like, I was like, can you get this back? He's like, all right, give me a second. And he's like, I see him when he was looking. He's like, oh, shit. So he calls. Now, I'm sitting there with my brother, my brother's friend.

He went with him. So I hear the conversation. And it's like, well, yeah, you know, I can talk to him, whatever, blah, blah, blah. Okay, thank you, whatever. It's about 10 minute conversation. So he's like, hey, do you want, when he hangs up, He's like, do you want him to leave the room? I said, nah, he can be in the room.

I said, why? What's up? He's like, all right, you can get your truck back. I'm like, all right, cool. So he's like, but look, he's like, was there a bunch of houses ready last night? I was like, yeah, because you know how they come? They'll hit all the house at the same time. It's like, yeah, like 20 or 30 of them probably.

He's like, yeah. He's like, they're not revealing it to me, but I can tell you this is a wiretap and it's federal. He's like, and you're not indicted. I'm like, okay, well, get my truck back. He said, well, here's the deal. He's like, they want to talk to you. I'm like, so what do you mean? Well, what are you getting at, man?

He's like, you know, before you're indicted, they want to talk to you because it's only a criminal complaint right now. And you won't have to go to jail for nothing to deal with this shit. So I'm like, okay, so you want me to go in there and ride everybody out and all that shit. Right. He's like, yeah, I said, I said, look, it's not happening. Then I was like, tell him, keep that truck. I'm not worried about it. So I'm going to leave.

And he's like, Eric. in your lives. He's like, you're in a lot of trouble. I was like, Gary, you just said I'm not even indicted. He's like, Eric, get prepared because you will be. Matt, two weeks later, knock at my door. Really nice. They didn't bust the door that I'm nothing. I look out the window. And it's like, what's up, Eric, U.S. Marshals, you've been indicted. Come on out. Don't try to run because we got you, you know what I mean? We got you surrounded, whatever. So I'm like indicted. And so I go down, I open the door. They actually let me spoke to say right on everything.

And then they took me. So as they're driving me to the, you know, how they take you to the courthouse, like, you know, for initial appearance or whatever. When they first got you, book you. So all the way down there, they're like, anything you want to tell us or whatever. So I'm like, nah, I don't want to tell you shit. So you know what they did? They laughed at. They just laughed.

They said, they say, don't worry. Others will. right you know what I mean they didn't bother me no more so I'm like I'm figuring it's like the state so I figure you get like bail reviews and I can you know pay a bail or something like that no no it didn't work like that they kept me detained so I wound up getting um I'm pre-trial you know before every let me ask a question what were you indicted for like I did 50 kilos of cocaine or But you weren't, this is because of the other guy's name, because they've been using the name.

Well, no, that's how they got on me when I wasn't selling drugs, but I did get back into selling drugs. Okay. So they did have a wiretap on you. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And just to mention that, like how people always think you can beat things with the feds,

they had a wiretap. Like, say they had the warrant to wiretap my phone from like June 13th till whatever. When I got all the discovery, on June 9th, they were already like 200 phone calls in. So they were illegally tapping it. Would they call that harmless error? Harmless my ass, right? So I don't know how these people work. You know, I'm still young.

I've never been with the feds. So now as I'm pre-trial, I don't, you know, they don't let me out or whatever. I'm figuring, you know, I can beat this. There's no drugs. You know what I mean? I'm not going to take a deal to let everybody go this time and all that kind. of shit, you know what I mean? Everybody, you know what I mean? So I'm actually believing like an idiot that I can beat it, you know? So what happens is as I was pretrial, they were holding us

in the counties back then, like surrounding counties like one of the eastern shore and stuff because we didn't have a federal facility. Right. So when I'm in this county, it was called Taubra County. And like the commissary was real expensive and stuff. There was this guy in there, this white guy. He didn't have no money, nothing. So I was. I was like this. I put together a plan. I get an envelope. I copied like the NLPA thing, national legal professional associates or whatever. So I had like somebody on the street make their envelope and I was going to stuff it with tobacco, dope, you know what I mean? Weed, stuff like that to make money in there. And so I tell the guy because he was broke. I said, look,

I said, here's what I'm going to do. I said, I'm going to get this scent in your name. Is that okay? I was like, and I'm going to look out for you. You're going to eat good. everything. He's like, yeah, yeah, do it. Look, thank God. Thank God, I didn't put drugs in there. So I just wanted to do a trial run. So I had stuff with tobacco. So I had somebody do it. Now, they tell me, hey, that's ready to get there. You know, I just did it. So I come up to him. I said, look, that's on the way. He's like, okay, cool. Like two days later, I'm sitting there. I'm playing poker and I'm drinking. You know, I like to drink alcohol or whatever. Now they're making it in jail and all. stuff. So I'm sitting there. I'm drinking.

Next you know, I got like four or five COs. They're surrounding me. So I'm like, all right, fuck. They're probably locking me up for gambling and drinking. So they handcuffed me or whatever. I'm like, what do you guys lock me up for? They don't tell me nothing. So they take me to the shoe, which is lock up.

So I'm sitting there. Obviously, I just lay down and go to sleep. But then I hear like an hour later, my co-defendant was my cell buddy. I hear him. And, uh, he's up there, they're put locking him up, I guess. So I yelled through Ben, Bobby, Bobby, what's up, man? He yells down that.

Now, he's a little guy, and he is a good dude, man. Like, if you met this guy, you'd be like, he's the greatest guy in the world. He's a little dude, he's a little slick dude, talks with Liz. Yeah, what's up, man, and all this stuff. Right, so he yells through Ben, you're crazy. I'm like, what's up, dude? He's like, you're going to get us life. I'm like, what are you talking about?

He's like, they got the whole cell, the FBI's in the cell. I probably wasn't deaf guy They put crime scene tape And all this shit around the cell Right I'm like what to like locked it down or whatever Okay just my luck And

So I still don't know what's going on But I was reading a newspaper article Of this guy he snuck a gun Into like one of the jails in D.C. or something And he was going to try to get out By using a gun or whatever They caught him I'm reading that article

It's laying on my bunk It was in USA Today So here's how this all ties together So I still don't know what's going on So they transfer all of us back to like Supermax. So as they're transferring us back to Supermax, it's me and the guy who set me up. But I don't know at this point he set me up. I just think they might have called something in the mail and, you know, they figured out maybe over the phone or something.

So he's acting like he don't know what's going on. So now we get there. They had like a few tiers where they held federal people. They didn't take me there. They took me to where they held the state guys. You know, the guy's doing like five years on lockup and stuff. So they, like, stuff me back there. They don't tell me nothing.

Okay, so I'm like, just sitting around, I'm asking CEO's questions. Nobody knows nothing. Well, the liaison for us between the marshals and, you know, the inmates or whatever, Sergeant Ryan, she comes up. She's like, look, the marshals are coming up here tomorrow and, you know, to see you or whatever. I'm like, what's going on with Sergeant Ryan? She's like, Foss, they're talking about some escape or something. I said, what? So she's like, I know, I know.

So now, this marshal gets there. They pull me out. And he says, he was a straight shooter, though. And he's like, look, Eric, he's like, I'm just going to ask you one question. He's like, if you ever tried to get anything into Talbot County? So I said, look, I said, I'm not going to tell you from who, anything like that. But yes, I have tried to get tobacco in there. He's like, okay, I'm going to end this investigation now.

And now I'm going to tell you what it's about. he said that guy that you had doing that in his name he's like he's been that's what he does he sets people up you know to try to you know whatever sets people up to try to get out and I was like what's what's up with him now he actually got released because they would lock him up on like petty shit like violations I think he was in there for violation so that's how that's how that went so I'm telling the guy I'm like yeah so there was like one of these little he took like a little piece of metal and left it in a van like on a little hand I guess you could open up a handcuff with it or whatever you know them guys in prison they know all that yeah i'm not like

that you know what i mean i don't know none of that shit so i'm like so what was the deal this guy had told them that i was in a gang i was a leader of uh oh an aryan gang i'm from baltimore city dude i'm not in no first i'm not in no gangs period but an aryan gang like i didn't know that we had them honestly so i'm like well that's not true he's like hang on He's like, the guy said that I was planning to escape. And if he didn't help me, I threatened to have his family killed. And that I was trying to get a gun in to the jail to wind up and kill. You know what I mean?

And I had a stupid-ass article I was reading. You know what I mean? So I'm like, I'm like, dude, this is he's like, I know it's not true. The investigation is over. He's like, I just want to give you a few tips because you're going to federal prison, you know, so you need to know what you're up against. So I was like, no, no, no, that's not true. I'm not going to federal prison.

I'm going to beat this. You know what I mean? This guy looked at me. He's like, ah, Eric, like, I'm just going to tell you, man. He's like, you're going to federal prison. So I'm like, okay, well, thanks for the heads up or whatever. So that was the first experience of like, it's just like, like, some movie shit. I'm like, man, this shit is just, like, made up.

So I wind up getting, I wind up getting Gilmer or whatever. They wound up giving me 12 years because what they did was, they charge me with 50 kilos of cocaine or more. And just like how, like, you got, you're a fraud guy. You know how they work the money, like 10 million you're on this level. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's what they do with drugs.

The federal standards. They, they, yeah. Right. How many people are under you, that sort of thing. Exactly. Exactly. So I'm like this. I'm looking at this shit.

I'm like 50 kilos. No. I can't plead guilty to that. Well, eventually it came down to, to an evidentiary hearing. So we're going to have an evidentiary hearing and I was a little bit, like I only got an eighth grade education, but like I've

tried to educate myself. Like when I was on a run down in Florida, my girlfriend used to go to Florida Atlantic University. And so I would like go into the, you know, I'd go into the classes also. And I was, you know, sit around because you know how the college shit is. It's just a big like basically auditorium classes, you know, got a guy speaking and stuff.

So I was looking at it and it was like by the preponderance of the evidence, prepondercy evidence. I'm like, man, prepondercy evidence, what about beyond a reasonable doubt? So I had it put in there that the evidentiary hearing, you have to find me guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

And they did. They put that in there, that they would try that. So I wound up finding a Fourth Circuit law, which is a circuit I'm in, which actually says you're only responsible for what you did. So I used that in our, you know, they did a memorandum, so we file another memorandum

back to that. And that's the law that I used. So like two weeks before the evidentiary hearing or whatever, my lawyer called me and was like, no, they backed out. They conceded. So they conceded to like a kilo and a half, which is only a five-year mandatory minimum. Now, when we go in for sentencing, we're not going to disrespect them and ask for five years, you know. So we asked for like eight years. This is right when the Booker passed, the Booker law passed, that made the guidelines advisory. The judge had leeway, as long as he determines a fair sentence. So we're asking. for eight years, prosecution's asking for like 16 years. So I didn't lose or win. The judge met the middle. I got 145 months, which is 12 years one month. So that was, so I'm younger at the time. So I go ahead. I get to this, just an FCI. They sent me to an FCI and it was Gilmer. It's in West Virginia. This place was wide open. I mean, this was wide open. Like, it's just like, it was like a party. You know what I mean? It was like a party. So I get in there, I get into a lot of the gambling. I had like, you know, I was the bookie, had the

biggest ticket on the yard. I had, I had a blackjack table, a couple poker tables. I had people running poker tables for me. And like I said, I stayed drunk all the damn time. So I'm there like four and a half, maybe five years. The SIS, which you know is like the investigator or whatever. Right. They hated me and like the unit managers hated me. The CEOs really didn't hate me. They liked, you know what I mean? They were just like, you know, they really for me, but they were such pricks. Like the unit manager, it kept me in a three-man cell for like four years. Like, even when cells would come open and stuff, they'd be like, nah, you're not getting in that. So I would tell people when they came to my cell, you know,

like when I would get a new seller or whatever, I'd be like, look, man, if you're in here, like trying to straighten out your life and shit like that, that's probably not the cell for you. But if you like to gamble, drink, you know, and, you know, just do whatever. Come on in. You know what I mean? So eventually what happened was the SIS was on me. But they can never do nothing. So we were selling, um, we were selling dope. We were selling heroin. And I didn't do it like hand to hand or whatever, but I had, you know, I, there was a buddy who would get a lot in or whatever. And he couldn't, he couldn't sell it because he would get robbed. You know what I mean? Right. So I was like, oh shit, give it to me. I'm not going

rob you. So I will do it. So next thing you know, they get on, you know, somebody tells. Somebody's always going to tell. That's one thing I learned about the feds, man. Like, look, it's 90%. Yeah. Like, you got all these guys in there with their chest poked out. They promote it. So they're investigating us for that. So they catch my celly. They try to run down on them and catch them with drugs, but they don't. But they piss test them.

And we smoke weed. So he failed a piss test. So they give him like 40 days for a dirty yarn. So he's getting out, and I'm throwing a party for him. I get all this wine and shit like that's some good shit. So I'm getting trashed. You know, I'm definitely trashed. So it's all of a side.

And at this point, I wound up getting in a real good sale. I had one of big handicapped cells. So everybody's in there hanging out, drinking and stuff this night. Now, I was too loaded. And this wasn't the CO's fault. You know what I mean? So I'm on a tear, shit-faced. The CEO comes up to me.

It's like, Foss. We got like an hour left. Just locking yourself for the night. Right. I'm like, okay. I go. I probably stayed in there five minutes. 10 minutes and then I come wander and back out or whatever so now he calls the um he calls the code

or whatever they come over to lock me up and I won't handcuff up on the tier you know so they're like I was like I'll handcuff at the lieutenant's office now when I get to lieutenant's office they go to breathalize me when the guy goes to breathalize me or whatever he's like I know you weren't drinking alone or some shit like that it was like a rookie guy or whatever so I was like smack I smacked the breathalyzer out of his hand and it was one of good one that like the digital ones. Right. It wasn't what she went.

That thing busts. So, you know, we could all get to wrestle around and stuff. And there was this lady, man. Like, this, this nurse lady or whatever. But she was huge, right? So I'm doing okay with the cops. She hit me, like, with a nice tackle. Boom.

I'm laid out, you know? So I wake up the next day in the shoe, obviously. Now, I was blackout, I was blackout drunk. So, Matt, you know, I don't know if you've ever drank like that or whatever. But, like, you can. can remember like bits and pieces but you don't know really you really don't know what happened like what i'm telling you is what's been told to me you know what i mean and this was me you know so i'm sitting there and this s i s i s guy comes the door he's like yeah you thought now false i was like what's going

on he's like you assaulted my officers i'm like some bitch now i don't know how bad this is or whatever so i was like well where's the shot where's the ticket he's like we can't give that to you because it's out with the FBI. I said the FBI. He's like, what, you know, they send it to the state's attorney, the federal attorney to see if he wants to pick up the charges. You got to wait. But they almost never do. Right, right. They didn't. So they even send out fist bites now. You know what I mean? Shit like that. So you, they can't give you a ticket until they decline it or, yeah, they got to decline it or else that's actually double jeopardy, which is weird. So three weeks go by, they declined it i get the ticket or whatever so now i got to go to the dho to the hearing now we go in

there and the d hos that was pretty fair you know he takes like all my shit for commissaire for 18 months phone for 18 months they're sending me to the penitentiary you know what i mean so i'm not you know i mean i'm not really worried about that so he goes and he's like he opens up a magazine and he showed me he's like look this is how much his breathalyzer costs it was like three hundred ninety nine It's like 400 bucks, right? So he's like, now you have to pay that. You know what I mean? So he put that on there as my restitution or whatever.

So I go back to my cell or whatever. My counselor comes walking by later on that day. He's like, hey, what's up, boss? You see DHA today, right? I'm like, yeah. He's like, what, they charge you for that breathalizer? I'm like, man, they charge me like, um, I was like, they charge me 400 bucks. He's like, yeah.

He's like, don't worry about that. It's not 400. Now it's 800. I'm like, what? Are you kidding me? It's $800. They switched it over. And now what they did was they froze my account where I couldn't even buy a stamp.

I couldn't buy a bar of soap, nothing until I pay that $800. But now I'm going to the penitentiary so I can use other people's phones and all. They're not worried about that kind of shit. Yeah. They just don't want people getting stabbed. So when I get there, I'm doing all that. So now when I first show up there, they send me to big sand. which it has a name of being violent and stuff like that.

But at this point in my life, you know, I'm in my early 30s at that time. So at this point in my life, I've done it. I mean, I've been in jail when I was 15. You know, I've came up through juvenile, places like that. So obviously you're a little bit leery, you know what I mean? Anybody say they're not worried. It's like they're lying. You know what I mean?

Because you've heard the stories, you know? Most of it's bullshit. But like some of it's true. You'll see people get killed and stuff. But whatever. whatever. So I wind up getting there. So now when I get there, it's like the jail was locked down because the Muslims and the Crips got into some war in front of the chow hall or whatever. So I got to sell by myself. Now, this is like these idiots and, you know, they have done these

these guys are in prison, right? So I got to sell by myself. So there's this kid, now you would hear at night, now you really would hear this year scraping on the floor and stuff because So everybody carries a knife. So people are making knives. And when the doors do hit and you come off lockups, somebody's going to get stabbed because somebody showed up, you know, has a hit on them or whatever. Half the time the guys who have hits on him is because some scumbag gang members

or whatever just don't like them, you know. So this is an example of that. Okay, so there's this kid Kenny. He's a younger, he's a younger white guy, probably like 26. He's from Detroit. Now he's got a bald head. He can't grow hair or whatever. But he's not a gang member.

None of that shit. He's like from the city. So I tell him, I was like, hey, why don't you move to myself? So he's like, okay, cool. So I move him in. About four days go by. I come in from the yard. He's sitting in, he's sitting on the bunk.

And he's like this. Like, lookin all goofy at some fucking pantlet, right? So I'm like, man, what are you doing? He's like, I think you need to know about your people. I'm like, excuse me? He's like, your people. I was like, what are you talking about? It's one of racist pamphlets or whatever.

I said, look, first off, dude, I said, I know about my people. My people are the people that I go make a phone call, and they send me money. You know what I mean? That's my people. I don't know about all this other shit. I said, and I recommend that you don't get into this type of shit either. I said, because these guys are all scumbags. So, probably two days later, he comes in a cell.

Matt, his whole head was, like, blasted with, like, Nazi signs, pictures of, Odin. I remember, this kid's from Detroit. And so he's like this. Yeah, Eve, you like my tat? I said, no. I was like, I think you're an idiot, right? You're a jerk off.

So anyway, with him, we split, we wound up because that was like receiving. Now, Big Sandy had so much violence going on at the time that the yard would be split. So basically, like, if I was on A unit and you were on C unit, they might let us out at the same time, but you'd be on the softball field side,

I'd be on the basketball court side. We couldn't, like, you know, wreck with each other because it was just too much for them to handle. So Kenny, I wind up going to B-side. And when I go to B-side, I guess they've put me in facilities or something. That was where, like, unicor facilities. B-side was, like, actually chill, you know what I mean? Right.

Now, A-side was, like, where a lot of the gang members wanted to be, because, you know, they all wanted to be together. So Kenny gets moved to A-side. Now, they work in the Chow Hall. So I come in the chat, I want to eat. Kenny's like wiping the tables where he walks up to me. He's like, hey, what's up, B? I'm like, hey, Kenny, what's up, man?

So he's like, man, he sits down for a second. He's like, man, he, I should listen to you. I'm like, what are you talking about? I was like, you should always listen to me, but what are you talking about? You know what I mean? So he's like, he's like, you know, about joining the gang or whatever. He joined the Arian Circle. You know what I mean?

I call him the Arian Circus. You know what I mean? So I was like, yeah, yeah, I told you. He's like, man, they just want me to do something. I don't want to do it. I was like, look, Kenny, I don't want to hear no more the conversation. I told you, you know, I hope you the best. Well, the whole thing was this.

Here's what wound up happening with Kenny. I guess some guy who they didn't like was showing up from another jail. And Kenny's the new guy, the prospect guy. Right. They hand Kenny a bone crusher, which is a knife that they made. And they say, look, this guy just hit the compound. It's his job now to go stab this guy. Kenny's not like that, man.

What Kenny does is he takes that knife and you've got to walk through corridors in the penitentiary. Like you don't go outside like the 10 minute move in the yard. You go through all corridors and cages of like shut it and stuff. So Kenny walks through the corridors, you know, he's supposedly going to stab this guy.

But Kenny made a beeline for the goddamn lieutenant's office. He goes in the lieutenant's office, boom, throws the knife on the thing and says, look, you got to put me on PC or whatever. These guys are trying to have this guy killed. They're trying to make me do it. So like, I guess the whole rest of his bid he had to be on protective custody which which would suck you know and this kid never got involved

in that stuff you know so um and then he's got to go back to detroit and he had a detainer where he's got to go to jail there with all that shit on his head so i mean Kenny's probably dead right yeah that's gonna be a lot of problems right so they were like um it was a lot of instances like where like i seen the fakeness through a lot of these guys like um there was an example um this guy uh This guy Wiser, he was like from California, and he's like one of guys. He's trying to start the white thing and, you know, skinhead or whatever type deal and shit. It was so bad, Matt, that I'm bald, right? So at that time, I was losing my hair.

It was going really thin. And I wanted to shave my head, but I wouldn't even shave my head because I didn't want to know by getting it mixed up. You know what I mean? So I got running around like an idiot. So anyway, this guy, this kid Scott shows up. Now, this kid Scott's from Pittsburgh. He, like, robbed a bank with a BB gun. So he would have like whatever

Less than 10 years Some shit like that So he's actually one of the ones Who didn't get manipulated by these guys Like all these other guys These kids that came there from the East Coast They're all shaving their head Acting like they're racist

And all wanting to join his gangs Get these goofy tattoos So Basically Um His Scott He was just like nah guys I'm cool But Scott was a smaller guy

He's probably like 5 foot 8 probably out of 60 pounds. So they didn't like that. So this guy, Wiser, he's got all these dudes that were, that should have been sticking off for Scott, but he's got them all in his cell. And now I walk by the cell, they're in there sharpening the notch.

So I walk in, I'm like, hey, what's up, guys? They're like, Wise is like, what's up, E? What's up, Big E? You know what I mean? I'm like, no, I'm chilling. What's up with you? Yeah, we're going to get this Scott. We're going to kick his fucking teeth out.

I was like, why do you want to do that to Scott? You know what I mean? He's like, because I, know he's this. I know he's that. He, he needs it. I said, okay. I said, listen, man. I said, what are you saying? He's like, well, he needs to show me his paperwork. I said, dude, the guy's first off he just got here. I said, second off, why are you worried about his paperwork? You know, you're in a gang or whatever. Worry about your own people. He says, no, he needs to show his paperwork because he's this and that. I said, you don't even know this about it. So, anyway, I wound up

backing them up into a corner of this way. I was like, let me ask you a question. I said, why don't you ask me for my paperwork? He's like, huh? I was like, yeah. He's like, I know you're good. I said, how do you know I'm good? Because I'm 6-2-250.

I'm tatted up. You can tell the same, my first rodeo. Is that how you know I'm good? I was like, as a matter of fact, I said, I got my paperwork. I said, but I want to see everybody's paperwork. I said, I'm going to go get mine. Somehow they spun out at, but let me say it like this. I wasn't trying to cause no confusion

I didn't really care I was just trying to save Scott's head So now I run down there To Scott And you know I tell Scott what's going on He's like you already know or whatever I'm like look Scott man

I said look I said I'm arrived for you But like you know You can't go checking in This type of shit You know what I mean I said because this could get serious or whatever So I get moved over to the B side And Scott and all them are still on C side

Now, he wasn't like the type of guy coming in the yard or nothing like that. So it had been a while since I've seen him. So I'm like, I hope they didn't stab him or nothing like that. So these guys, they all come out to the yard one day. And I call him over the fence. I was like, hey, the guy's got from Pittsburgh. He's still in there. Oh, yeah, and he's good.

He got his paperwork. I said, yeah. I knew he's good. I said, but where's your guys at? Does you guys still, does you guys produce anything yet? You know, and I was just kidding with him or whatever. So basically, basically what wound up happening is like, The guys who always poke at their chest, they always wind up getting exposed.

The guy wiser, he was probably there another month or whatever. He wound up getting stabbed or whatever because something was fucked up with him and all that kind of stuff. So that was like a real eye-opening experience like because it was just like just the fakeness of everything. Right. It's just like, I mean, you think you committed fraud. These people live fraud every day. You know what I mean? Like they're sitting there.

They're all lying. And it's like they want you to do all this. stuff and all, like, you know, they're manipulating people. I'm like, how am I going to? And I got a little chip on my shoulder, too. It's like this. The way I grew up, I grew up with, when I was younger, selling drugs and all. I'd make my, I had my little bit of money so I could buy whatever or whatever.

My uncles, they would be crawling around, stealing my money, shit like that because they were junkies, you know, so I'd be mad, I beat them up, whatever. So I was like, this. I'm thinking, like, man, I've been snacking junkies around since I was 15. You think I can't do it when I'm 30? You know what I mean? Or I'm going to have a drug addict loser tell me how to live, you know? Because all of a sudden, all these guys got all these high morals.

You know what I mean? Like, oh, this and that. You can't talk to this. Like, you're missing me with all that stuff. So eventually, I wind up, my points dropped because I've never been, like, convicted of violent crime. Right. So my point, so my point's dropped. Hey, wait a second, wait a second.

So I want to tell you something. I don't know if did you ever hear me talk about changing the guy's paperwork? Yes. Okay. Yeah, that dude, like I felt bad for him. And the moment he was placed in a position where he could demand people's paperwork, he starts demanding. It's like, wow, you're, you're a piece of shit, bro. Like you.

Listen, I actually, this was before my, my, I ain't seen you on, um, Chad Marks's show. Okay. Okay. And that's the first time I've seen you. And then, you know, but I was like just skimming through. So then I guess my buddy, this is a buddy of mine, he hits me up. And he said, man, did you see this guy? It was about, hey, I was thrown out of my mind too, dude.

I'm sitting there, the black guy, Big Herk or whatever. Oh, yeah, yeah. See, he's talking about this and that. He's like, man, this guy's acting like this and it. I say, hey, I say he's telling the truth. He's like, huh? I was like, he's telling the fucking. truth. I was like, this is what really happens. I was like, look, I figured that out because I did wind

up going back to federal prison. I'm just going to put this in here real quick. I went back to federal prison. I went to Allenwood. They started in the low. I didn't last 20-some days or whatever, but they threw, I got thrown out. I got sent to the medium. So when I get to the medium, here's how I figured a lot of shit out too. But I knew about people doing that fake paperwork shit. So when I get to the medium in Allenwood, Matt, everybody on the unit had good paperwork. No, that's impossible. There's not, see, this would think people don't understand. And, you know, kids need to know this and stuff. There's no honor amongst these. There's no such thing as a good car. You know what I mean? Right. And, you know, how people will even say a good dude. Well, maybe this guy's a good dude to you,

but guess what? To somebody else, he's not. Right. You know what I mean? Because everybody's got that you know what I mean so there's some people who like me some people hate me you know just like relationships in life you know you you you might marry a woman or I might marry a woman that some other guy couldn't stand right you know what I mean so she's this to him but she's this to you so that's just like the regular stuff but like when I went to Allenwood dude like when I watched your shit with big hurt I was laughing my ass off because I'm like dude this guy's nailing it and like you could have really I mean you could have busted him out like yeah I told you I was I was concerned

I mean, you know, you don't realize it when you see the video, but yeah, there was, like, that, that could have gone bad for me. I mean, both of these guys are like, he's a, he's a big guy is, cameraman's a big guy. And I, and I could see the more I was pushing. I was like, oh, this, this is, these guys are getting really aggravated. You still pushed, though. You were still. I did, but I mean, I stopped. Like, ever, I could have gone like full tilt.

And I was like, yeah, you got to calm the down. You're going to get, this may go bad. It's COVID. And you're in the middle of an empty hotel room in downtown LA. like you you got nothing nobody's coming for you so well also like a situation like that is like this um a lot of times with the fake people and you can't even talk to them because their first thing is when they're painting in the corner they want to react with violence that's you know that's what I was concerned with or sit there screaming at the top of their lungs and you know but I mean

the stuff that you're saying is actually it's accurate you know what I mean and that's what I told my buddy. So I was doing all this flim flam stuff and I know all this stuff from experience too because I'm always the one, look I was never that guy and I look I was never that guy. I don't give you know what these people done

and who they told her now like the child blessers and shit like I hate that shit you know what I mean I have smack them out check them in shit like but that was in my younger days but um you know I'm not I'm not nobody to speak on your situation right you know what I mean I'm not nobody to say

that you know okay what guy wants to sit in prison you know like a lot of people say like this um you know like i've never i've never cooperated you know what i mean but guess what i've done over 20 years in prison you know what i mean i'm always the target i'm always the one they're coming after you know what i mean so i can't sit here and tell a person like hey don't do that that's not i mean that's not fair you know what i'm saying like i look their business is their business but like the First, I was saying, just like your first thing, like the people that you're trying to, I realize right away, the people you're trying to protect are actually cooperating against you at that moment. You know, you, I don't have to see that more than once to realize like, oh, this, this isn't the way it works. Like, this is, you know, then you go and you actually do some time.

You, you meet some people and you realize, oh, this is, this is up. I'm going to end up doing 20 or 30 years. Well, everybody else is going to go free. And in the end, nobody cares. Like, I'm in mortgages. Nobody's stabbing each other in mortgages. I'm in, you know, banking. there's nobody's getting shot that's another that's another thing too like with with what you're

in that kind of stuff name me one fraud guy who didn't cooperate right I'll wait right wait you know what I'm saying because that's part of their game anyway because the feds actually probably want to you know I'm just assuming you know the feds want to stop who know how to do certain things and stuff like that so it's like dude you're not look even look what What pisses me off is that the guys, these same guys that are screaming and stuff like that about like a fraud guy or something, they're supposed to be street guys, but they, look, they move the goalpost for herself. Or, like I said, or if a guy can fight, they're not going, he could, you get to see him with CNN testifying and they'll make an excuse for him because he can fight.

All right. You know what I mean? Or he'll kill you. You know what I mean? So I've been through all that stuff, like, and I've just, I've been set up. You know what I mean? I've seen what's happened. And with the tough guys, I'll tell you, like, what happened to me, I stayed at Big Sandy probably like 18 months. I didn't get in no trouble because, see, big Sandy, it's hard to get in trouble. It's very hard. Like, and the police are actually a little bit, you know, they're told, like, to leave people alone because, like, I give me an example. You know how they do census counts?

Yeah. Like, you see where you're at or whatever, whatever time. Yeah. Well, my job was supposed to be facilities. Now, until this day, I can't tell you where we're a facility. is that a big sandy i didn't go so they did a census count that was a rookie cop or whatever so he comes on and he it's like a 12 o'clock census now my sely he worked in unicor so i'm there you know what i mean just chilling so he's like what's your name i'm like foss he's like eric

fos i was like yeah he's like why ain't you at work so i'm busting him down man i said i put him my best that's the best mode i said because i'm in prison that's why the fuck i ain't in work he's like okay have a good day you know what i mean so they don't do you know what i mean say he don't know if i got life sentence or whatever you know so basically like when i get to um i get out i get out of big sandy i had clear conduct everything like that so i get down to um scookill in pennsylvania now this was one of the most cruddy places in backbiting situations i've ever been in, dude. And it's the scumbags that are supposed to be tough at all shit to do this type of shit.

Like, um, I had a cell buddy, uh, Tony Ahella. It's like 72 years old. He's like, associated with a mob, whatever. So he winds up moving to myself. And I like old Tony, you know, and I'm this type of guy, man. I'm, I respect everybody and stuff, especially older people. The guy's doing a life sentence, you know, from drugs because he didn't want to lose his properties or whatever.

But, um, anyway, so he moves in. So me and Tony become pretty cool, you know. Now, they give him an operation. A BOP gives him an operation. Like, this dick up real bad or whatever. So he's, like, blood and everything, it was bad, man. So anyway, he was like, you know,

he's like a pack rat. He's like a hoarder. So the cell was always up. He's got his shit hanging everywhere and all. I mean, what do you want me to do? You know what I'm not going to, you know, these case managers and unit managers is like, what do you want me to do?

You want me to cuss out. I'm not going to custole, man. I'm not going to do that. I don't give a, you know, I'm going to yard every day anyway, you know. And I like the guy, you know, he's still in life. So they wind up separating us. They separate us from each other.

Now, this was actually, this was actually the second time this happened to in this place. So basically what happens is, you know how you always got the head orally? Yeah. You know, the head orly's got to talk to the police, you know, they got to tell the police everything and shit. So anybody, you know, usually that's a head orally. And usually they're junkies. well, this head orderly was a junkie. And they knew the old man had money and everything like that.

And he had like a couple big gold chains and stuff. So what they do is, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he told the counselor, the counselor had them separate this or whatever so they could pull this move. So they move in the cell with somebody else. So I'm like, I'm kind of like happy. They move in another cell. So I'm kind of like happy like, to Christ a clean cell and shit finally. You know what I mean?

So after 4 o'clock count, Tony comes to my door. He's like, I'm like, what's up, Tony? He's like, they got me. I said, what? He's like, they got me. I was like, what are you talking about? Somebody stole out of my lock. He can't even really speak English.

So he was saying in his locker. I said, what are you talking about? They broke in his locker and stole his gold chains. So I'm pissed. And then back then I was a really good sheet. You know what I mean? I could do cardio for forever. You know what I mean?

You know, I was always strong shit like that. So I'm heated. You know, so I'm fucking B-line out of the cell. I'm running out of the cell. I'm straight to head of orally. You know, I'll say, I'm going to break your neck. These chains don't come back. Oh, you're going to, yeah, you did, you know.

So we wound up getting one chain back. So the head of order exactly, like he's doing this investigation. I know you're behind it. Oh, you gave one back. Okay, in a couple days, give another home back. You know what I mean? I don't want no problems. I'm going home in a couple months.

Right. But I'm just so pissed off, you know. And not the Italian dudes are really taking his back or nothing because, you know, they're not getting in the mouth. They won't, they'll shoot their best friend in the head, but they'll come to prison. and I'm going to steal a tomato. Right. You know, just like,

come on, dude, what's wrong with you? So, anyway, so I'm beating the drum about this shit. So,

I'll go to the yard the next morning, like a couple, or a few days later, whatever. So I go to the yard, I do my cardio, I do my weightlifting or wherever,

you know, so it's about to be yard recall, 10.30. I walk up to where all the Italian guys hang out, you know, they call it bar deal or whatever. So I'm sitting there.

I throw my bag down, and then there's this little Italian guy, Frankie, right, he's, he's all over the place. He's like, you know, always talking to shit. So we're sitting there talking. He's like, he, what the guy is that? I said, what are you talking about? So what is that in your bag? He says, what do you mean? He reaches down. He pulls out a big-ass piece of like a big screw and it was sharpened. So as I was at wreck, apparently somebody put that in my bag as, you know, you sit your gym bag in or whatever. So then when I go back through the metal detector, I would have got, you know, knocked off.

They're trying to get rid of me because I'm sticking up for an old man. Right. So, you know, these are these are these tough guys. They go after old men, you know, all that kind of shit. And that was the second time that happened. The first time that it happened at Scoot Kill, I think the police put a knife in myself because my cellie, his name was Larry. He was the older.

He had already been in like 20 years. And we had a sports ticket together. But they hated Larry so much anyway, because. he'd been there so many years and Larry wasn't that bright like well I'm not going to say that but he'd been locked up for so long and he didn't understand like

the shit that you understand and I understand like he's a stumbags you know what I mean? He has the head orderly holding like 400 books of stamps which is the currency like you know each book is worth like so that's like $2,000 you know so he's got the head

orderly holding that so the head orderly sets it up to get Larry, you know, thrown out of the jail so you can keep the stamps. So I hear that they got Larry on the walkway, you know, some fingers for the ticket stuff, you know. So I had all the tickets, you know, the master sheets and all in the cell. So they locked the jail down. So obviously they just lock Larry up.

They're going to come search myself. Obviously, I know this. I wind up getting, ripping up all the paper, flushing all the tickets, all the contraband in a cell. So here they come. I get to the cell. They're like, anything in here? I'm like, no, nothing's in here.

So the cop goes like this. He's like, you sure no knives are in here? Like, yeah, I'm positive. He goes, I guess he reaches under like the locker, like under Larry's locker. Like under Larry's locker goes, whoa, what's this? I said, are you serious? It was a, it was a, first off, it was a toothbrush with a razor tape to it. Now, you're telling me that I can get rid of all these tickets and all this kind of stuff,

But I could have thought, though, just take this apart. Right. You know what I mean? So obviously, it wasn't mine. It wasn't Larry's. Now, I don't know if they were orderly put it there or gone. Or if I actually think the cop did it. You know what I mean?

Because he's walking me to lock up. He's like, yeah, don't think I put anything in your cell or not. I'm just like, man, whatever. So I get in there, me and Larry's Sally's and I was going home, you know, within a year or whatever. So Larry still had like 10 years left. So he's like, he's like, he on there. that was for me man he's like i'm just going to take it you know so he wound up taking that shot and then you know they had to let me out you know and i was i was back there that was like hell

dude i was fucking that that that shoe i was only there like 30 days and that shoe it was so hot it was summertime there's no air conditioning okay you like you know like you get your breakfast in the morning and you eat like the coffee cake yeah so you know how like if you eat real hot food like spicy food you'll sweat right dude if you just from digesting the coffee cake you would break out in the sweat. Like this is how hot it was. I probably went in the shoe probably 230 pounds. And when I got out, I was like 198 pounds. I didn't work out. I didn't do nothing. That's just from being sweating. You know what I mean? It was a, it was like a son. So that's when I got out there. And then eventually that all happened with the old man

Tony or whatever. So I wind up getting out. I wound up getting out of Skuku. So when I get out of because I go to halfway I was going to come home. So when I come home, I'm pretty much I'm on a straight and narrow. So that same guy that I told you he had the same name as me, he wound up. He's like, you know, he looked out for me

when I was in prison and everything for not throwing him under the bus or whatever, but he had a, um, he was a certified appraiser and he had an appraisal company. So like I said, technically is fraud, but technically my name is Eric and his name is Eric. So he had me showing up.

I, you know, I needed a job. And it's hard to get a job as, you know, getting out of prison or whatever, fell in or whatever. So he's like, look, man, come work for me and do appraisals because he hated, like, I think even his girlfriend broke up and he's like kind of weird. He was staying in the house. They didn't like to go out around people. Then he got on drugs, pills or some shit.

So he didn't like going out doing the inspections. And so, like, when you're doing appraisal, you got to go physically do the inspection, you know, take all your photos, everything like that. Then you, you know, you take, upload it. Then you, you know, you do your appraisal report. So he had me doing the inspections. So I'm showing, and he threw me to the wolves, man. I got a box on my ankle.

I'm in the halfway house still. And I'm going into these homes, right? So he started me out. He started, but I learned a lot. Like, you know what I mean? I learned a lot on my own because he started me out just throwing me into houses like, in like neighborhoods like where I'm from and stuff like that. These people don't give a shit.

You know what I mean? They don't care. They don't ask you a bunch of questions and all, all that kind of shit and all. So I would just show up, hey, I'm Eric. I'm the appraiser, you know, which I am, Eric, and I'm really not the certified appraiser. I guess you called me a trainee or whatever. Right. But, I mean, it was good money because we're splitting it.

You know, each appraisal is like four. And you've got the box. And you've got the box on. I mean, they see the. No, they don't see it. Dude, yeah, I got to cover up my tattoos and everything. I'm sweating like a pig, man. I got to wear long pants and everything.

So he's basically throwing me to the wolves. I don't know really shit about nothing. I don't know what recess lighting is from a goddamn. I'm radiator, you know what I mean, at that point, you know. But I learned like, but so I would go into that type of houses, you know, a lot of people doing their reverse mortgages and shit like that, you know, that J.B. Nutter would send everybody and just make sure the house is still standing, you know. So I wind up learning some stuff and this is what I learned to it.

I wind up going, this, he gets so lazy. He's just sending me to everything. Now, I get to this house. This is what you want to avoid. You want to avoid the middle-aged white guy who walks around in a tie and black socks. You know, you want to avoid this guy. So I go to one. He said to be one of the houses.

I get this house. I start doing the inspection. And he's like, he's answering me all kinds of questions. You know, I don't know if, I didn't understand if something was under contract or, you know what I mean? I didn't know none of the lingo, you know. So I'm just like this. I'm looking around the house. I'm like, fuck, we're busted.

You know what I mean? But I looked for something I could talk to him about. He had this room full of all this football memorabilia. So I'm like, oh shit, LT. LaDalia Thomason. When man, I remember when he had 29 touchdown. You know, I started talking to him about sports, you know what I mean? And just was able to manipulate my way through like that. But once I started learning, because I would come back and I was studying the shit myself. Like there's, you know, I know more than him, honestly, about the inspections, about FHA and everything like that now. You know, so. one time I get thrown into this fucking house and this guy see now I know what's going this guy's in financial trouble he's trying to refinance right so I ain't got the night before or whatever and I thought you know the praises you're supposed to be the middleman you're not supposed to have a dog in a fight but you know I don't really give a shit now I wouldn't rip off banks or nothing you know what I mean nothing like that like you know if the bank was going to lend the money I'm not I'm not putting fake photos in but I'm also not climbing up in scuttles and look

I'm not doing a stupid shit. Or if you got some flaking paint, I'm just going to be taking another picture and be like, look, just paint that. You know what I mean? So I go in there and I catch this white guy. He's just a prick, man. He's acting like he's so rich and shit like that.

And then this is when I started figuring out. People are bullshit. You know what I mean? I look at it. I'm going fast. An inspection takes me 20 minutes. You know what I mean? Not even.

I'm just going through click, click, click, click, click, click. All right, have a nice day. You know, which they should want. Well, he just wanted to stick his chest out. So he's like, this don't look like a proper inspection to me. I said, you know what? I said, you're absolutely right because it's not. I said, now check this out.

I said, so I'm going to get out of here because I'm not doing a proper inspection. And we're going to send somebody in here who's going to take pictures of that flake of paint. Who's going to go down there and see that you got to cover off of this? Who's going to see right there and see that rail and it's shaky? You know, I know what you're doing. You're trying to refinance. I need, do you want me to send that guy? You want me to send that guy?

He's like, no, just do your job, man. I'm sorry. Right. So I was doing that and I wound up getting my real estate license. So I wind up doing that and then start flipping houses and stuff. How is getting your real estate license you had? Did you, how does that work there? I mean, I know a lot of felons that have gotten it.

Did you have to take the test and everything first and go in front of a board and answer some questions that like they make you jump here? Here's some hoops. here's where here's where i told him i was a convicted felon if i'd have never told them they they they don't really check that shit like the commission well up here i know well here's here's what it was um by me telling them that okay i go i take the um i think you know you take the course online okay this the ccce shop or whatever i think i took it through there or whatever so i go ahead and then i go down and then you take like at the community college you take like the pretest or whatever and then you go to the like PSI place it's called and like when you go in they take like

your cell phone and everything so you can't cheat you know so then you take your national and state on the same day so I wind up passing that now when when then you log in and it's like congratulations you pass you know so you got to you know you got to take take your license and you take it to a broker just basically you know you're hanging in their office like remax was my broker or whatever. So that's just, you know, that's just just backing up. But when I hit the thing, like to get to get whatever the actual license or whatever

from the Department of License Labor, it wouldn't give it to me. So I'm like, Jesus, what the hell's going on? So I went to my broker. I'm like, man, he's like, did you tell him you're a convicted felon? I was like, yeah. He's like, man, he shouldn't have done that, right? But what they had me do was I had to get all like

my old, like, court cases and stuff like that, what I was convicted of. And I took it down to some, it was down on Baltimore Street. I took it to some office and I gave that to them. And it took probably about like two weeks or whatever. And the real estate commission, they approved me for my license. Okay. So, but they're really worried about, they're really worried more about like DUIs and like, you know, like sex charges and stuff like that.

Because, you know, like, when you're going to showings and stuff like that. But I do know this because I was looking at it. I think it is, it is tougher in Florida. it is a little bit tougher in Florida because I was around that time I was thinking about moving down there but I didn't do it but I was looking into like the real estate license and stuff like that in Florida because everywhere is different like my license is um was expired now but when I had my license it was reciprocal to Oklahoma and Pennsylvania which I believe means because I never tried it But I believe that means, like, if I went out to Pennsylvania or something, I would be able to do, you know, do a deal or whatever.

If I took their state exam, I would be able to go into that place that day and take the exam. So you wouldn't have to go through a bunch of stuff. But it wasn't, you know, I mean, that's 72 places it was. Oklahoma and Pennsylvania. Yeah. Well, I mean, so I don't know. I know people who have, who have felons, drug charges, been to prison, everything. They've got out the same thing.

They had to take the test. They, you know, they answer the question. Because they'll, they charge you to run your license, you know. I mean, to run your, a background check. So they say, they tell them, but they, if they just go to them and say, look, here's what happened. I, you know, I was selling drugs. I was young.

This is what happened. I went to jail. I did eight years. I got out. I've been, you know, I've been off probation. I'm good. They're going to, they're going to say yes. Yeah.

Okay. So, so it's basically the same thing. Yeah, but they want to know, because you're right. What if, what if it was, hey, oh, it was kidnapping. It was, you know, then it's like, okay, oh, wait a minute, you know, this is getting more, although I know a guy who. you know had a murder charge that you know but that got his license but but it was also he hadn't been in trouble and you know 10 years and so I think a lot of times they're they're concerned

with um with fraud more than anything else yeah but I also know a a chick that was my co-defendant that got her real estate license but that wasn't in Florida that was in um um is she in Indiana Illinois she's in Illinois but I'm assuming she She could have gotten in in Florida because she only had one charge. But she did all of the, like every one of these people did prison time. It's not like it was probation. They were all in prison. So, yeah, I think you can get it.

I think most people can get it, you know. But most people shy away from it. They don't want that they think, oh, I can't get it. I'm afraid. No, that's not what it necessarily means. Yeah, I also, like, when I did my carpet cleaning business, I did frog before too. Like, and I can talk about it now. I'm pretty sure that's actually, well, no, you're all got, they just want,

washed it on the water. What I did was this, like, when I first got out of state prison, I told you, I did my carpet cleaning business, right? So what I did was back then we didn't have social media. So you used to have to advertise in this thing called a penny saver, you know, like one of them like, yeah, yeah. So, you know, the big coupon that falls out, like in the middle. I was doing, like, dominoid piece might be on one side. And I paid to have my company on the other side. So they would do it. I was paying like 20 grand a month. But I was going, my ad was going into so many houses. You know what I mean?

Like a million houses or something. And you pick your areas. Like I didn't even do Baltimore. Nobody's getting their fucking car to clean in Baltimore. You know what I mean? So I would do like Northern Virginia, you know, PG counties, places like that. And so there was a lot of money, you know, just to run the ad. Advertis is a lot of fucking money.

People don't understand that. So I was doing that. And then I screwed up, man. I had been locked up. So I wanted to go out and party and stuff like that. So I had my partner, Hover, he was, you know, he's, he, he, I met him because when I first got out, the job that I got while I was on the box was as a carpet cleaner. He was my crew chief. I was his helper.

So we did that for like one day. I said, look, man, we're going to start our own business. He said, how are we going to do that? Where are we going to get the money? I said, don't worry about that. I said, we're going to start our own business. That way it made it easier on me because now the home detention people, we were set up at his apartment. That was the office.

So they were not going to come to Glenn Bernie and check on me or whatever. So we started doing that. Now, it was decent. So then when I come off home detention, obviously I want to go out and have some fun. So it was like a month that I was out. And I paid for the advertising. And like when I say 20,000 a month, people got to understand. Yeah, you pay 20,000.

But then that month rolls over. You know what I mean? So you'll still have appointments booked for like two, you know, two months, whatever. But you're also rolling the dice Because nobody might never call Yeah You know what I mean So that's 20 grand down the drain

So I leave everything up to hoe I'm like look I'm gonna go chill I'm gonna hang out with chicks Whatever you know You know do whatever Now my little brother I used to pay him like 600 bucks a week And cash and he would

He was like our helper You know he'd go out with Hovick stuff like that Go do the jobs I would usually chill at the apartment So So basically Hovic screwed everything up I'm in the I'm very

right around the neighborhood one day, me and this girl. So I see my little brother, and then they're all hanging on the corner, you know. So I pull up, I'm like, hey, Jesse, why didn't you at work? He said, man, I ain't been to work in like almost a month. I'm like, what? He said, I was like, what about Hovick? You know, because I was just ignoring everybody, you know what about who? I'll try to get in touch with him every time.

It just goes to, you know, I mean, it goes to the voicemail or whatever. Now, you know this, man. If I'm paying this money for advertisement, and I told him that, I gave him the best deal in the world. I said, just put the money back, keep all the profit. You know, he put it back in our accounts. Now, he had his, now, he was, he was a, he had his own thing, and we had set up to take credit cards through the merchant thing. That was actually in his name, New Life Carpacare.

I was A through Z carpet care, but we were using his merchant. Right. You know, because you don't want to show up at a house. They want to pay with a credit card. Oh, we don't take credit cards. How's a professional bet. So all you had to do, that's back what Mexico tells. So the key to it was, you couldn't download apps and, you know,

your bank and all that stuff on next step. Right. So what I did was, I come back around, I see, Hovey screwed everything up, dude.

He was like, selling our jobs to like this other guy, you know what I mean, when he'd get him or whatever. So he's doing drugs, whatever. So he screwed up the money.

So I get mad at him, you know, whatever. So I'm like this. I'm pissed off, man. It just costs me a bunch of money. So I'm hanging at this strip club.

And I notice, I notice these like guys, like come in there all the time. Like, They're like Russians, you know, foreigners, you know, them type of guys, you know, and they're spending big money. So I always knew all the chicks and stuff. So I go to the bar, mate. I said, hey, I said, let me ask you a question.

This is my first one I did. I said, this guy over there, I said, what's his deal? He's got a lot of money. She's like, yeah. I was like, he's got his credit card and everything. She's like, yeah. I said, what does he spend? She's like, he spends a ton of money.

And he would get prostitutes and everything like that. So I'm like, all right. I said, look, I give her. 500 bucks I said look I said give me give me uh all his credit card information or you couldn't see had to write that because we didn't have all that back then she said she would write that down his expiration date you know the thing on the back the three three numbers like five six one whatever right so I'm like all right I'm gonna try this shit so I get all that I go in the bathroom I run his credit card for like four grand so boom it goes through

I come out. I sit down. I'm sitting there and just drinking my drinking. I'm watching. I'm watching him. If he gets a phone call, if anything, nothing. So I get out of there. I tell Hoveick, I say, man, because it would take three days to go pick up the cash. I said in three days, man, got four grand coming. Go get it. You know what I mean? So it worked. So I'm like, holy shit, right? So I start doing that shit like every night. I did it for like a month. That's all I did it for. It got like 70,000. You know what I mean? Cash. And then they wind up calling Hovick. They're like, you know, this is some type of fraud or whatever.

So Hogan calls me up, man, we're going to prison. Oh, my God, and shit. I said, no, no, no, no, no, we're not. Shut up. I said, you see all the invoices we got that are empty? He's like, yeah, I said, start filling them out. Right. He's like, what do you mean?

I said, start filling them out. We clean their carpet. You know what I mean? So he's doing all that and shit. And then plus I had leverage because, look, these guys are out there, these guys are out there, cheating on their wives, all this kind of stuff. So what are they going to say? No.

strip club you know right so basically at the end of the day it wasn't prison or anything the insurance their insurance because it was 70 grants so their insurance actually whatever the merchant place was whatever their their insurance covered it but hope it can ever have that in his name again yeah yeah i was going to say they closed the account and he's on a list somewhere but yeah it's not they're not coming after you for the fraud right but yeah that's that was like i was like man that was that was like taking taking candy from a baby you know what i mean so like yeah i've i've done a lot of that type of shit well not a lot of fraud stuff but i've been involved like a lot of the real estate you know trying to do my own businesses and stuff like that but like drugs always gets

involved like the last time when i got out of scootkill and i was doing the appraisals they got my real estate license and stuff now i was honestly i was doing good i um i would use that for like i really use my license to like do a flip on a house because now i don't got to pay when i list it i can list it myself right you know what i mean so i was doing that And then I did get back into, I did get back into the drugs and stuff like that. But, uh, I caught a bad break on, like, I got put into another conspiracy. I got put into another conspiracy that I'm really not, I really wasn't in it. So I'm out doing whatever.

I have a buddy. He was, uh, he was under investigation. So I'm headed down, um, the MMA fights down, down Baltimore Arena. This guy, John Rallo, he actually got MMA legalized in Maryland, you know. Like Joe Rogan's talked about him and everything. He used to be a fight, whatever. So John's cool, you know, so I always supported his stuff and all. So what it happened was my girlfriend, my girlfriend got me tickets for my birthday.

My birthday is August 30. This wasn't until October. But, you know, she got him for my birthday. So I think it was like October 6, 2018. So we're headed down there. My buddy's under investigation. He calls me. Now, I had just got back from New York.

Because I was, like, right around my birthday, I'm like, man, fuck this. I'm going on a bunch of trips and stuff like that. So I would go up to New York for like two weeks and then come back. And now I was right in between going to Vegas. I was headed to Vegas like October 19th. So this is October 6th. Now, I guess my buddy's under investigation. I'm not.

My phone's not tapped. None of that shit. He calls me up. He's like, yo, what are you doing? I said, I'm going down to MMA fights. He's like, oh, all right, cool. I might stop down. I'm like, all right, cool.

I said, but if you do, make sure you bring your girl, because I'm with Stacy. Stacey is my girlfriend, man. That's like, she was a good person, man. Like, she was a square, like, so, like, she's a really good person. Like, to this day, we're not together, whatever, but, like, she's just one of them people that's just, like, an awesome person, you know what I mean, great person. So I don't want her to think, and I didn't cheat on her or none of that, like, shit. So I didn't want her to think, uh, he's going to show up with another chick, and her to be like, man, when he's out, he's probably doing the same thing. Right.

You know what I mean? So I'm like, make sure you bring your girl. Well, in the, at least in my city, in the inner city, girl is cocaine, boy is heroin. But that's not for like drug dealers. We don't talk like that. You know what I mean? When I was a drug dealer, we don't talk like that.

That's for like drug addicts. Like they'll be like, who's got the girl? Who's got the boy? You know what I mean? So I'm saying make sure you bring your girl. Like what did? So they indicted me for that, man. They wound up indicted me for that shit.

So basically, I'm not never figuring nothing because I'm really not doing shit. Like, this is how dumb they are. I had, like, when they raided, they raided our house. We had a townhouse at Perry Hall. And so this house is nice townhouse. There's no drug traffic. There's never been a drug in this house. I've never had drugs around her.

You know what I mean? She knew that I did certain things on the side and all. my stash house was right in Baltimore City it was actually a house that was it was about to be foreclosed on but I was doing it I knew the guy

and I was like you know I'd show up there and like looking like I'm rehabbing the house so in my bag I got a bunch of pounds of weeds you know coke whatever so that was my stash house so here's how you know

like they weren't even looking at me so they wind up I went to Vegas I come back from Vegas I stayed there like a week so when I went my same friend he lent me

I had one I had one luggage bag and I put out for a week so I needed you know another bag so he lent me what like one of that Louis Vuitton bags where it's like $7,000 bag

whatever you know I don't get shit about that but whatever so he lends me that so I go ahead now if you're surveillance and all this kind of stuff and you're talking about stupid shit Like, they had surveillance of me going and fucking buying a pack of cigarettes and buying beard die because I dye my beard. You know what I mean?

So you're telling me, if you're really on your shit, me and this guy are handing, he hands me a big Louis Paton bag. And then when I came back from Vegas, I hand it back to give him back his bag. There was nothing in it, obviously. But, like, they could have painted that picture, you know. So they weren't doing too good of surveillance, is my point. So when they wind up, wind up, that was a. I get back from Vegas, probably the end of October. So now this is almost, I think it was like November 14th.

They wind up. We go out, we go out for dinner, me and her, and we have a nice dinner, come back, you know, do whatever. Now, we're in bed. Like, this is a normal house. It's her, me, my dog, and her two daughters, which are like 13 and 10 at the time. You know what I mean? There's no drugs in this place, no, not at all. No drug dealers.

And they're not in that shit. And it's a suburban neighborhood. So we're in bed. Next thing you know, it's like all this smoky shit like through the house. And you're hearing like echoes and all. And child's up. Like, you know, I was having a few drinks and stuff. I guess I'm clearing my head.

Now, Stacey's like, Eric, something's going on. So I see all this shit. So like, all right, all right, hold up, baby. So I go, I look out our back window. And it's, you know, we got a grass alley. It's not like an alley of the way I grew up where you've got a bunch

of the goddamn concrete and rats and shit and you know and then stray cats and shit so I'm looking out on this grass alley

next thing you know boom there's like a red beam on my head I'm like oh shit so I weave out of the way so she's like what's going on

now I hear him down there screaming Eric come down Eric come down I was like it was like something out of like Will Smith movie or something

they're a military they're a military clothes and all this shit so I'm like this I'm like okay she's like what's happening I said we're getting raided

she's like for what? I was like, obviously for me, babe, you know, and she's like, well, what'd you do? I said, nothing. You know what I mean? So I was like, don't worry. So I figured, look, I go down there, you know, my hands up, everything like that, walk down a step backwards. I said, look, guys, I said, I'm surrendering.

Now, if you're doing an investigation, you know this ain't that kind of house. You know nobody's in this house. They're just trying to show off. Right. So they cuff me. They're like, who's in the house? I said, my dog. I said, my girlfriend and her.

her two daughters. I said, please, nobody has nothing doing nothing. This is about me. I said, please, just, you know what I mean, just don't shoot nobody, you know, just take it easy. I can't listen. You know what I mean? They don't listen, right? So they got me coughed. Next thing, you know, they bring them down on a, and they sit them on a couch. I'm not sure if they had coughed them. But, Matt, they've got their guns right in these little girl's faces. and my girlfriend's face screaming at them. I mean, these people have never been through that. I feel guilty to this day.

These people have never been through this shit in their life. Right. So I flip out. You know what I mean? I flip out. I start spitting on the police and everything, you know, try to throw karate kicks out of all kinds of shit.

They're like, man, he's nuts. Get him out of here. Because they're supposed, they actually brought the, they x-rayed my walls. You know what I mean?

Looking for money. There was only five grand there, like a little less than $5,000 bucks cash. Because it was, yeah, I always kept that kind of cash slain around a few grand or whatever, you know. And also, oh, five grams of marijuana, weed, which is a ticket. It's a $50 ticket.

That's what's in the house. So they don't find them, but they start screaming, you know what I mean? They're screaming at me and shit. And they're like, get him out of here. He's a nutcase and all this kind of stuff. I'm not a nutcase, dude. You're locking me up. I understand that.

You could have texted me. I would have came outside. You know what I mean? And obviously, they threw their concussion grenades, some type of smoke grenades all through the house. I'm like, you know, I'm pissed about that, but, you know, when you're sitting here, you know what time it is, man. You don't got to do that to these people. You know what I mean?

So, they get a regular cow. And this guy looks like, like, O.B. Taylor. You know, he's a young guy or whatever. So he's red-haired guy or there. So he's like, he's scared to death. You know, he's snowing out. Now, I'm in my own, I'm in a pair of sweatpants and just my house slippers, you know what I mean? Like a wife

beater I'm wearing. Like, they don't even let me put clothes on. snowing out. So as the guy, as the regular cops walking me out, he's like, he's like, false, listen, I don't, um, I don't have nothing to do with this. I'm just, I said, I know what you're doing, man. I said, you're doing your job. I said, I'm not, I said, I'm not even made of them today. They were just doing their job. You know, I said, I'm not the type of dude. You know what I mean? You got to take me to jail. Come on. So I said, I'm fucked out. This is just fucking cop runs outside. You know, they always got to be a tough guy. He's like, he jumps in my face. He's like, you think you're tough? I was like, nah. I said,

As a matter of fact, I know I'm tough. So he's like, because I was bad at that point. So he's like, what if I take these handcuffs off? I said, you take these handcuffs off. I'm going to knock you out. And he's like, well, I'm not going to do that. I said, I didn't think so. You know what I mean?

So he likes, Opie Taylor or whatever, takes me to jail. So I'm sitting there and I'm in a precinct, like White Marsh precinct. So I'm like, I still don't know what happened. I'm thinking like, like I said, I was doing some shit on the side. Like, here's how stupid they are. I still had like at my stash house I still had like 10 pounds of weed About 200 of them weed pens

You know how they're like legal now or whatever Like I was I was getting it back in the day You know what I mean? I would get them sent So I had like 200 of them You know some coke Probably like 18 ounces of coke something like that You know my Lexus is parked right in the driveway Of the goddamn stash house

You know what he said So if there was so much so smart Why didn't they read that but they didn't But anyway I said, they take me to jail. So I'm at White Marsh Precinct. Now, nobody's telling me. Nobody's telling me what I'm locked up for.

But obviously, I know it's for some type of drug dealing or something. But I'm really not selling drugs like that. You know, I'm not really up big into the drugs. That's not like my whole thing. So they're trying to put pressure with my girl or whatever. Like, I give her credit for this. She said like this. She said, look, because she worked for BGA and E, Baltimore Gas and Electric.

They wanted to take her, and she worked from home. She'd been there 20 years. So they wanted to take her actually desktop computer. Like they didn't wind up taking that. But that was for her work. That's for BGE. She's got nothing to do with this. They took all their phones and all took them to a lab.

And then they asked her, they said, you know, do you know anything, you know, whatever? She said, look, all I know, I know, is you're saying my boyfriend's a drug dealer. He's telling me he's not. I believe him. Right. You know what I mean? That's the truth. Nothing was ever around her.

So as I'm at the precinct, I'm trying to figure out what's going on. Next to, you know, this black dude comes in. he had got raided I guess the same time I don't know this guy from a can of paint so I'm like you know how do you start talking

it's just you and in there so I'm like yeah what's up he said yeah they rated me four in the morning I said yeah me too so another guy shows up another black guy

he's like yeah they rated me four in the morning I'm like yeah me too so then everybody's like you know Jason I'm like yeah right

yeah it's probably got to doing it so anyway they get us to the they get us to Baltimore County jail. This happened in the county. So they get us to Baltimore County Jail. Now, when they get us to Baltimore County Jail, I walk in, I see Jason right there on the phone. You know what I mean? He's making the call. He's like, yo, what are you doing here? I said, I'm just coming to say hi. You know what if you think I'm doing here? I'm in a bullpen with these guys. It's probably like 10

people. I don't know one of them. You know what I mean? And like I'm from, listen, I'm from the I'm from the streets, man. But like, I cleaned up my image. Like, not all the way. But, like, you know, like tattoos, like, even though I kind of regret some of my tattoos, tattoos are accepted nowadays and stuff. But, I mean, these guys all got like gold teeth. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? They want that image.

Right. You know, they're like how when I was a kid, I used to wear the three finger rings. I had to, you know, all that kind of shit. But I was 15, 16 years old, you know what I mean? So I'm looking at a bullpen. I'm like, geez, this is going to be a real embarrassment. You know what I mean? Like, what the, now I don't know none of these people, but Jason.

so obviously they give me no bail so now this is a this is a this is a county you know state charge at first but jason they had caught at one of his houses they found four kilos of coke okay so the house i've never never been there in my life none of that kind of stuff like i said i don't know really none of these people but i know jason so he's like yo you'll be all right shit like you ain't got nothing to do it on this i was going to say have you put it together that you got slipped into an indictment that you have nothing to do like had Did you already put that together? Yes.

Okay. Yes, at this point. Now I'm at the embarrassment point. You know what I mean? I'm at the embarrassment point. But I'm still figuring, okay, this isn't the feds. You know what I mean? Now they said that some people were going to go federal on this case.

So obviously Jason and this other guy, G. You know, so they got caught with shit. Guns, drugs, everything. I didn't get calling nothing. You know what I mean? I'm really not. Like I said, that was a year-long investigation. They picked me up in that investigation on that, like,

two conversations in, like, October, the end of the investigation in November. So how much could I be involved? And like what they were doing was like when I got, so I'll get to that point like how they, they lie. So I'm sitting there. I go for the bail, you know, for bail or whatever. Obviously they didn't deny me. So I'm sitting there.

So we're in county jail like three or four months. So I hired like two different lawyers to do bail reviews and stuff like that because I'm like, you know, lawyers want you to go ahead and pay a bunch of money up front. So I'm like, I know how to. process works. So I'm like, look, I'll just pay this one for a bail review. This is for a barrel view. So when I went on the first barrel view, there was no, listen, if this would have been stayed with the state, I'd have walked right through it. It was nothing. So we get into for a bail review. Now, you got people on, it's not like federal court.

You got like a bunch of the public in the courtroom and all. So they got to put on a show while they're not giving somebody no bail. Right. Prosecutor stands up and says, Your Honor, we think he's one of the biggest fentanyl dealers in Maryland. At first, I'd never been charged with fentanyl. Right. And I've never seen fentanyl to this day. You know what I mean? I don't know what that shit is. And I wouldn't sell that shit anyway. So they denied me bail. I hire another lawyer. Finally, we get a judge that's assigned to our case that's going to be overseeing our case. This is going to be our judge. I get to have a bail review in front of her. She kind of gave them hell. She's like, what is this man locked up for?

Well, you know, we believe he's this big time drug. You believe this. Right. You know, where's your proof? Well, you know, which, you know, and then they said, like, it's this could be a federal, you know, the fed, you know, the feds do want some of these people. We're not sure who or whatever. She's like, look, the feds will know where to find them. I'm releasing.

She said she released me on home detention. So I was like, okay, cool. You know what I mean? I'm pretty much bigger. Why would the feds pick me up, you know? So I get home. I go to my lawyer. He gives me all the discs and stuff like that,

the discovery that he's gotten so far. So me and my girlfriend, we're sitting there and we're going over the conversations. Now, they got thousands of conversations, but we're just worried up mine. So when we look at this conversation, it was a pertinent conversation, that's what they call it. It's supposed to be me.

It's a guy on there. He's a white guy, but he talks like this. He's like, yeah, Doug, I'll be right there my bro, you know what I'm saying, Doug, you know what I mean? Now, look, my girlfriend's like, you don't talk like that. Like, see, a lot of people get it screwed up

because now we do now, South Baltimore, the guys from the city, the white guys from the city, kind of do talk like that. But if you're actually from the city in Baltimore and you're around my age, I can't speak from these kids or whatever, but you're around my age, this is how the white guys talk.

Right. You know what I mean? This is how we talk. Like when I first talked to Jeff or whatever, and I said, you sure are from Baltimore City? I was like, yeah, I'm from Baltimore City. You know what I mean? He's like, well, no, you just don't sound. I said, man, no, no, no. So that's the county guys.

There's the, you know, they want to be. You know what I mean? They're the, you know, they want to be something that they're not, whatever, you know. But that's just their accent. Right. So it was a guy who talked like that. And my girlfriend's like, that's not even you. I was like, obviously it's not me.

So I'm like, I'm feeling very confident, man. I'm feeling really confident. You know, because I would beat this. Next to you know, probably three weeks later, two weeks later or whatever, I'm on the box with the state. Here they come, like 8 o'clock in the morning. Now, instead of just coming to the door, you've already raided the house. There's nothing there.

They didn't even raid the house in the state. They still got to make a big scene out. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Eric, we got you now. We got you now. This is how dumb they were. So this cop, he wants to be, he wants to be a federal agent so bad. but I guess he just could never make the cut.

So he's still like, he's still a state cop or whatever, but he like deals with, you know, with the feds. He's like a liaison with her. So they handcuff me or whatever. He's like, yeah, you're done now. Now we got the evidence. This is federal, man. This ain't state side.

I said, you jerk off. It's the same evidence. Get the guy out of here. Here's how dumb he was. When they get, when I got my discovery and, you know, to get no-knock warrants and stuff like that, they got to put people's records there. They didn't even know that I did 12 years with the feds.

That's how much they didn't do about me. They thought that I've never been with the feds before. They didn't even know nothing. You know, so I'm like, man, this guy's a real jerk off, you know. But anyway, so I get over there. Now, like I said, I had that box on my ankle. So I get over there that day to the federal courthouse or whatever. So all of a sudden, all of a sudden, now when they're arrested me, the box is going on.

They didn't even tell the goddamn state that they were locking me up. Now I got an escape charge. You know what I mean? For like running from the box. No, I'm locked up. The feds came locked me up. So they don't need to tell them. So a lawyer shows up.

Like I'm, okay, I know this much. Do not pay for a lawyer in the feds. Unless you're really going to go to trial or you're really going to cooperate. Right. There's no other point to pay for an attorney. There's no point. You know what I mean? Because it's just cut and dry.

So all of a sudden, I'm sitting there, you know, how they appoint you an attorney or whatever. Yeah, I'm sitting there by myself or whatever. Next thing you know, this guy, Jose Rons in there, Jose Molina. And I had used him and I had my buddy use them on the street for DUIs and shit like that. So Jose shows up. So as soon as he comes in the room, through the screen, he's like, Eric. I'm like, yeah, Jose.

I said, whoa, whoa, whoa. I said, you might as well leave, bro. I said, I don't know if Stacy called you or whatever. I said, I'm not paying you to take this case. You know what I mean? He's like, no, they appointed him. it to me. So I never knew he was on that panel. Right. So we try

to get out. We go for detention here or whatever. And I, you know, I'm probably not going to get out, but I figured this time maybe I could because I had a lot of positive things going on. So I had her there. I had a guy, one of my buddies, he owns a construction business, and I had a few other business owners and stuff.

I had people because I was doing, I was doing programs. Now, you know, I was using some drug money to do this. But I was doing like shit, like I would do bees or better, I would call it. And basically, like, a lot of times I would go to, like, parents who really didn't have money, like, a lot of single mothers and stuff. And if they had little kids in school and stuff, I would sit there, you know, if their kids, like, would, if they could average a B or better, you know, for whatever quarter and, you know, prove it, you know, show it. I'd give them

$200 or let them get to whatever pair of tennis shoes they want. You know, so I was doing stuff like that. So, you know, I had people, I had a lot of people writing in, you know, like when I had my detention here. There was a lot of stuff like for me, but they weren't trying to hear that shit. You know what I mean? They don't care about none of that. So they detained me, you know, and I sat there, and now the thing is, it's like, when I looked at the charge papers, you see that, now they break everything down to everybody, everybody's role in the, in the conspiracy. My role was nothing. Matt, no mandatory minimum, no nothing. It was like, you know what I mean? should and one thing about the feds after 15 years you've been out of prison your record drops off right

they can't use to enhance you or anything like that so the weird part about it is like my first federal sentence I was a category five you know what I mean which you know there's only six categories this one this one I was a category I was a category um three which you should have been a category two because they gave me a point for a DUI that I actually got a probation before judgment and completed it But anyway, so I wasn't facing that much time. You know, if I wouldn't have went to trial, if I don't went to trial and lost, the most they could have gave me, I think was like 63 months. That's the most.

If I go to trial and lose, you know, so it's nothing. Yeah, but you're facing going to prison for something you didn't do. You're on a conspiracy that you have nothing to do with. Exactly. Well, here's the point. So people do say that. People say to me, well, you know, if you didn't have nothing to do with it, why didn't you go to trial?

I said, well, two reasons. First reason. They detained me. I'm going to sit there close to three years waiting to go to trial anyway. Right. You know, I'm going to sit in a fucking scumbag jail. You know what I mean? Prison is better to jail.

You know? Also another thing, the drug amounts. Now, remember, I have co-defendants on this. I don't know who's going to go over there and talk to them people. Right. And start pumping up them drug amounts, you know? Because, listen, man, I was... I wound up pleading guilty to 400 grams of coat, right?

Which is less than a half a kilo. Half kilo. Stop it. Within a month's period of time, dude, I, trust me. It was more than that, you know what I mean? But so I want to get this shit over. I want to get it rolling before any of that can happen. And then they start charging and then I get these mandatory minimums and all that kind of shit.

Because I got no mandatory minimum or nothing. So that's why, like, when people ask me, like, well, why didn't you go to trial? And then another thing, I would have lost. Yeah. You know what I mean? 42 months is better than 63 months. You know what I mean? All day long.

So I wind up getting that. I wound up going and the thing is, you know, I played, look, I wanted to get this behind me so fast. Listen, this and this. I played guilty and got sentenced on the same day. And, you know, that's, that really don't happen. Right. But I requested that to happen because I just wanted to put it behind me. You know what I mean?

because it's just a horrible experience. Like, you know, I'm like, Jesus, man, why does this happen to me? You know, I'm sitting there. I remember it hit me. I'm sitting there on the phone talking to my girl or something, and I look up and I see these same damn green walls at this damn Supermax.

Well, I call Supermax. It's a Chesapeake detention facility. Now it's a federal facility, but it used to be our old Supermax. So I call it Supermax. So I'm sitting there, it's these same green walls. They haven't painted the walls in the last 20 years. You know what I mean?

It's the same busted little window right there. I'm like, this again. I was a free man, totally free and clear. So I was fucking depressed me. I just wanted to get that shit over with. And that's when, um, so I do all that, whatever. And, uh, you know, I didn't get convicted like how I'm telling you. That's like the weakest drug charge ever. I shouldn't have already been federally indicted. But I think they took something personal. You know what I mean? Like, you know, I was going to beat it with the state. So they just like send this idiot along for a ride. You know what I mean? So I wound up going over there, I got 42 months or whatever. So it's time

in court. Now, the first time I went to court, federal court, and you know how you talk before you get sentenced? I said a bunch of stuff like how I regret this, how regret that on. This time, man, I stood up. And I said, look, I said, I'm not going to apologize to this courtroom. I said, I'm going to apologize to the people who supported me, the people who are majorly disappointed in me right now, the people were standing by me. I said, I'm not going to apologize to this courtroom. I said, I shouldn't be in this courtroom right now. So this is, this is a joke. You know, so the judge is sitting there, you know, she's like, because she said something like, this is what she said. She had the nerve

to say. She said, she looked up like how I've been in prison before. She's like, and she's seen, now she's from Baltimore. You know what I mean? So she knows how lean it they are in Baltimore City. She's seen my first ever case as a younger guy, first ever conviction or whatever. She's seen I got that six years. And she's like, wow, you've never gotten a break. I was like, yeah, that's true. She's like, well, you're not going to get one today. You know what I mean? So the guidelines were 37 to 46 months. So she gave you 42 months or whatever, which my guidelines should have been under 50 grams of cocaine, truthfully, you know, but I just popped out to the 400 grams because I just wanted to get it over with, you know, before anybody could go pumping anything up on me. And then I was right. That whole case became a whole, like I hear about it all now. Like everyone's saying now this one did that one, this one did that one. So now I'm figuring. I had been in the feds before, obviously, but it changes. I get sent to Allenwood Lowe. All right.

So I'm like, damn, I'm going to a low. This is going to be sweet. Now, I'm not the one in politickers or anything anyway. But I was just like, I'm definitely not on that. I'm doing three and a half years. I don't want none of this other shit. I don't want to get in trouble with none of this shit. So I get there.

Now, when I get there, you know how they, like when you first get there you're they're you know interviewing you you know what i mean like are any gangs you know all that type of shit so this lady she's interviewing me right so she's like she's like what do you identify us i was like oh nothing you know what i mean so she's like no what do you identify as i said nothing she's like no what do you identify as i said i said i said i know i look like it and all my tattoos i said oh trust me i've never been in a gang in my life she's like no what do you identify as a male or a female? I said, so I'm like, holy shit.

Things have changed. So I'm like, I asked her, I was like, what's wrong with you? I'm a dude. You can't tell that? This is a man's prison or whatever. She just gave me this mean look. That is what started to start a spiral. So I get there and I get on, you know, they put me on whatever unit or whatever.

And it's so crazy. Like, they now have their own commissary. They got a commissary just for like, transgender people are yes you're allowed to buy sports bras but you're not allowed

to buy wife feeders right you know and what a white feeder is for your audience is like you know tank top you know what I mean we can't buy that

but they can buy sports bras so it was like really really messed up so this was out of the world like I've never seen nothing like this so I walk in the chow hall now they got a section

in the chow hall where all the transgender sit and you know everybody gives them nicknames shit there was this old white when they called her Marks, her. They called it. Yeah, and whatever they want to be called. Whatever. I want to say nothing right away.

They called the guy of Martha Stewart. You know what I mean? They get Jennifer Lopez is the Spanish when this was They had a, they had like Tyler Swift and they had all these names. They were, I can't, I wish, I used to know like they were like five. I knew like five of them. They were whole, you know, who knew the names. They were hilarious. God, that was, uh, um, one was something like, uh, Michael Minaj. Like, I mean, they had a ton of. They were hilarious, too.

Yes. It's crazy. And then they, so I get there. So this is like a, now I've seen that kind of stuff in the FCIs and all before. The new BMO VI Porter MasterCard is your ticket to more. More perks. More points. More flights.

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They won't get that to you, but you can go get a hormone shot and grow breasts. Yeah. You know, so anyway, well, good for that. So I get there. This is just place is just like It's something I've never seen So now like I told you bad I sit down

I don't want nothing to do with All these politics or nothing But like I said You get the wannabe These guys are in low security Like dude you're not You've never busted a grade You know

Because listen All these guys like You got these guys like On this on social media The West Watson's And all these guys They did all this shit Right

They did all this shit But they kept them in these mediums And stuff like Let me explain something to you And I'm not no badass I'm not a tough guy. My first state, that state prison sentence

that I got, I started a pre-release. I wound up in a medium, okay? My federal sentence, I started an FCI, I wound up in a penitentiary. This last one at the low,

I didn't last their 26 days. And look, I'm not even like that. I'm not paperwork, I got a knife from my ass. I'm like, that's goofball stuff. So,

anyway, it was like one of them type of guys, right? So I go and I sit down at the table and I eat. So it was like a like salad or, you know, it was on the tray or whatever. So this guy asked me, he's like, are you good, man?

I'm figuring he's offered me salad dressing or something. I'm like, I say, yeah, dude, I'm cool. Thanks a lot. He's like, no, I mean, are you good? I said, excuse me? He's like, are you good? Your paperwork? I said, and I looked at him and he's got a lanyard around his neck, like a thing around his neck that says Ardap. Right.

I said, excuse me. I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, I said, check this out. I said, what do you think I am? I said, first off, you got a, you're a new ARDAP program. Okay, now I'm not saying people in ARDAF or whatever, because I had Code Defendant's daughter, but it is, you have to snitch in that program.

Yeah. You definitely have to tell them people on that shit. You have to hold them accountable. Yes, which, which I just want to make a point on this. Okay, so you're telling me that they can do that for the year off and it's fine. but if me and you rob the bank out here and I said, Matt, tell them me, I'll tell on you we won't get 20 years, we'll get 10, we'd be rats.

Right. You know what I mean? Come on, man. This is all hypocrisy. So, like, I told him, I said, I said, you're a hard debt. I said, check this out. I said, I've been in pedantia. I said, I ain't for all this shit. I said, now what's up? I said, yeah, I'm good. I said, are you good?

He's like, he's, oh, no, no, dude, man, dude, dude. So then I told him, I guess. I said, now, look, I said, I'll beat the shit out of you. I said, I woke you up if we fight. I said, I know that for our fact. I said, now let me say something. I said, what if you just said, am I good? And I told you, no, I testified against 100 people.

I said, what would you have done? Uh, uh, uh, nothing. He'd have just run around and told everybody. That's all he would have told everybody. He's no good. He's no good. Right. You know what I mean?

But like, that's what, so I get it. So this is why I wouldn't last there. So there was something. Look, this is how they did me. They didn't be dirty, man. The staff hated me. there. So I'm on the phone with my girlfriend. Now, I'm talking to her, and I called the counselor. The counselor wants to do something. I said, yeah, the counselor's stupid as bitch. You know what I mean?

It's a huge conversation between me and my girl. They call me a lieutenant's office three days later. They give me a shot for it. Some like, insolence towards staff. I didn't say nothing to her. you know what I mean? So we have the UDC hearing. So when we have the UDC hearing, she's in there, some other cops or in that. I guess they didn't like that. I acted either. They took my phone for a year for that. Took my phone privilege for a year. So now I do know this because I have been in trouble. You know what I mean? In the joint, you know? When they take your phone privilege, they actually, the sanction don't kick in until 12 o'clock that night. So obviously the first thing I do, Matt, is I go on and call my girlfriend. And she's upset, man. I'm like, I like, babe, I said, she was coming every week's visit on. She was good, though. So I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, babe, listen, I lost my phone for a year. You know what I mean? Blah, blah, blah.

You know, I'll just have to email you, whatever. So she's all upset and everything. So, okay, two days later. No shot. I get called. Yes. You knew you watched your phone. They take my email for a year.

Oh. Now you're cutting off everything. You're trying to cut me off now. The only thing I got left is my visits. So my girl will come up and visit me, like every week, every other week. You know, Alan Wood's probably three hours away. So she told me when she comes up, this dude, this, this CEO asks her, he looked like, Homer Fudd, you know what I mean?

He's like, why, well, I don't know why you're visiting that asshole. You know what I mean? Like, dude, be a little bit of professional, you know what I mean? This is people, this is my people you're talking to. So she tells me about it. Now, he would be in the visit room. And, okay, they would harass me so bad that when we're sitting there, we go ahead, you know, when she comes to visit or whether she's in front of me, whatever, I was just holding her hand. Now, there was a gay couple right here, they're all, they're kissing and everything.

They run right over. You can't touch nobody. They pulled me in the room, and it's the Elmer Fudd guy. He pulls me in the room and said, I'll take your obeisance. I said, what? He's like, and I heard what you said about me. You said, I'm Elmer Fudd. You think you're so smart.

Cool. So they're listening to my conversations and shit. So, okay, so now they do the email thing to take that. Now, you have three men in a cube at the lows. Okay, so I'm in there with this old Russian guy Z and this Spanish guy. This dude, he just moves in on his own. You know what I mean? So now I lose my bottom bomb.

You got to get on top bunk all shit. So I'm already pissing. about that. So this guy was some type of weirdo, dude. He's sitting there. He's harassing somebody on the street. So they call the prison. And they're like, you know, this guy's harassing me. So they write him up, give him a shot. So now he comes to the cube. He's like, we're all in there talking. He's like, hey, yeah, man, they gave me a shot or whatever. Like, it's cool or something. So the one dude makes a joke. It's like, yeah, it's probably because you're in here with E. You know they hate E. So I seemed

to look on his face. I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I said, don't make no jokes like that. I said, please don't make no jokes like that. I said, look, what he's, the staff hates me, obviously, but somebody on the street hates him. You know what I mean? This is a total opposite. I said, I got nothing to do with this. It's not because he's living with me or whatever. So eventually the guy goes for his shot. Okay, he goes UDC. That's what you go to for them, like, 300 series shots. You don't go

DHO. So when he goes there, I guess they took his phone privilege for like six months or something, or like, not even that, three months probably. I don't know what it was, but it wound up being nothing. He starts fucking freaking out, and he starts yelling to the counselor in Spanish. He runs in with the counselor. All of a sudden, he leaves the counselor's office. Now he's got no sanctions or nothing like that. Well, the next day, I'm at work at rec.

And I was selling drugs in there a little bit outside. You know, I mean, I'll get my hands. It's not even really drugs anymore. It's like some boxing and shit. Like, that's not even really drugs, you know. Right. You know, so I'm selling that or whatever. So he told him me, I guess, for that.

So I'm at rec. And that was my job. I'm just sitting there. They called me in the office. And you would think, like, this is, like, the biggest bus in the world. They're like, don't move. I'm like, what the fuck? So they strip me naked in the rec office.

Then they take me to lieutenant's office. And I wasn't around at that time. I wasn't around. I was doing a little bit of drugs and shit like that, too, myself. So I was dirty. So they stripped me naked or whatever, and they hand me a cup. So I burnt the cup up. You know what I mean?

So I know I got it. It comes up dirty. Right. Now, but they have to send it out. They have to send the cup out because them tests, like, I've actually not been doing drugs and talking tip to piss tests and it came up dirty and I was actually clean, you know. So they can't lock you up because them tests are faulty. So they got to wait for the lab to test it.

So that's what they do. if you come up dirty, they send it to the lab, and they do the actual test, which I know that it's going to come back 30, you know, but you got all these people, you know, like, oh, so I got like eight days. So I don't know who told him me at this point. So it comes out, you know how prison is. You know, somebody went right into the counselor's office after he had left out and my face was on the computer screen and shit like that. So the situation was, was I think I would like, I probably would like 50 bucks to like Stormen and shit like that. You know what I mean? Like I go to store and get sodas, honey bun,

shit like that shit I didn't buy off comments over there. So I don't want to sit here and do nothing and get locked up and make it look like I'm ducking out. You know what I mean? Some shit like that. Because you know how these people are in prison. Oh, you fucking did that because he owes 50 bucks. Come on, dude.

I wipe my ass with you. So at the end of the day, I'm sitting here. So I'm telling somebody when I hear about this, I was like, yeah, I said, I'm going to kick his ass. You know what I mean? He's getting an ass kicking. I wasn't going to stab. I'm not going to stab people on that type of shit.

But I was pissed off. I already know. And I don't give, if I want to get thrown out of here anyway, you know what I mean? So now, I'm coming out of the cubicle one day, and I guess it got to them within this time frame beforehand. So I got my coat on. You know how you got them big dumb coats or whatever, because it's wintertime. So I got that on. Who fights in that, really?

Like, who's going to go put on a coat to fight? So as I'm walking off the court, you know, the hallway or whatever, getting ready for lunch, he's standing out there with, like, five people. So he's like, was he says, hey, what are you running around calling me? I said, Mom, I called you a bitch, and I called you a brat. You told me, you know what I mean? So he's like, well, what do you want to? Actually, you know, I have a three piece. Bing, big, bang.

He's falling everywhere. This guy can't fight. Look, dude, I'm old now. Like, in my younger days, man, I would have, you know, stomp him and all that shit. But I'm just like, I looked at the guy. I'm just like, man. He's like, please. I was like, look, I ain't done.

Just get up. Get out of here. You know what I mean? Fuck and stop. I go ahead. I go to chow. So I'm sitting in a chow. You know how it is in prison, how every rumor gets around and all that type of shit.

Well, my buddy comes up to me, and he's like, I'm sitting there eating my chicken sandwich. He's like, yeah, he, they were fighting on our block or whatever. I said, oh, really? He's like, yeah. So then I'm like, okay, cool. So he leaves, he comes back. Hey, they said it was you. I said, yeah, I said it was.

He said, why do you still calm? I said, dude, it wasn't even really a fight. It's no big deal. It's like, you know, who cares? I said, I'm going to get locked up for it, you know? So I go Now I go to I go to work Which was wreck

Okay So I gotta go to work Because in a low If you don't even show up for work That'd be a shot Right Lock yo So I gotta go

I leave chow I go to wreck So I'm sitting in a wreck Boss Report to the tenant's office So we know what this is So I'm telling everybody Okay guys

You know everyone Throw me out jail I'll see you guys later Nice meeting or whatever Make sure my shit gets packed Or whatever Which they didn't Somebody stole my timbulins

But Good guys These are the good dudes. Good dudes. So anyway, so I walk to lieutenant's office now as I'm walking up there, guess what I see sitting there? I see my other cell. The old Russian guy, Z.

I'm like, Zee, what's up? He's like, I don't know. He's like, they said, man, you were fighting. I said, what? So I'm like, shit, we're going to get around this one because that guy didn't want to get locked up either. The guy I beat up because, you know, he's scared to go to the shoe and all that shit. So I'm like, okay, I'm going to get out of this one.

So I walk in there, I'm like, look, me and this guy are friends. We weren't fighting. I don't know. These guys are lying to you or whatever. So, Lieutenant, you know, they take off your shirt, check your hands on. And not nothing. He's like, yeah, this is some bullshit. He's like, you guys go on back.

It's over there. Now, I don't go back to the unit, obviously, because I got to go to work. So I go back to wreck. So 4 o'clock, I come back to the unit. I walk in the unit. Everybody, all these guys look at me, they turn the white guys, the good white guys. Right. the tough ones the good ones

they all look at me like they've seen a ghost what's up man I said not man you know why you know and so I go in there the guy's still in my cube you know the guys that I beat up still in my cube he said they were to add on shit

so I'm just like look man it's like I see this over with man should have whatever who cares you know now so after the account you're allowed to come out and use the computers and shit like that these good guys

solid stand-up guys. It was 14 of them. They all went to the computer and sent messages to SIS. They were calling SIS dummies and shit. They were like, you dummies need to check the camera and stuff. You did it right in the phone. You know what I mean? So they checked the cameras or whatever.

And then they wound up locking him up. They called him first. Then they called me and locked me up. So then I got, so they sent me out there. Now they transfer me to the medium. Now, COVID hits. So this is when COVID hits while I'm in the shoe. So I was probably in a shoot probably like 60-some, 70-some days or something before I get to the medium.

Now, when I get to the medium, it's a bunch of fake there, too. This is where I told you, like, when you said about the fake paperwork, they had this guy there. They called his little white guy named the Monopoly Man. He looked like the Monopoly Man. He's supposed to be doing law work and all that stuff. He's changing motherfuckers' paperwork. You know what I mean? Because he had a lot of people, like, he was on a computer for testifying on people or whatever,

but nobody doing nothing to him, all this type of shit. because these people were backing them up because he's doing their law work. No, he's changed their paperwork. You know what I mean? So that's what he was known for and shit like that. So it was just a lot of fake shit over there.

Like, some dude came out to me. I was in the mediums like, you want to, you know, I'm the guy who checks paperwork and all around here. I said, let me ask you a question. Where are you from? Utah. Utah.

I was like, what are you in here for? Him and his brother robbed the 7-Eleven and he's in the feds because of the gun. I'm like, dude, listen. no you can't you're a crackhead you're not saying you're not chicken you the fucker you anyway this same guy who's doing all this kind of stuff he winds up getting caught uh having sex with another guy and they get caught they get caught and they lock them up so like I said it was during COVID so the place is basically locked down you come out like an hour a day or

whatever once again I use my brains and got around some shit because now the phones are hell it's going to be hell like and i lost my phone i lost my phone but you know there's always a guy that you could pay yeah so look during covid they they put you up to 500 minutes a month and the phone calls were free okay the phone calls were free okay so next thing you know so imagine that you got all these scumbag i should call so you got all these guys been locked up yours they're coming out with their little brown phone books that are all tattered and shit they're calling because it don't cost money now. So they get to bother people, you know what I mean,

the done cut them off and shit. You know, so they're, you know, free phone calls. They think it's so great. I'm like, this sucks. So you got one, I believe it was like four phones, if I'm not mistaken. So some genius shot caller from whatever he is,

bloods, drips, I don't know what it is, whatever. He makes up how the rule is going to be. Well, this phone right here is going to be everybody from PA and all this kind of stuff. this phone right here is going to be New York oh yeah yeah this phone right here is going to be like the D.C.

and you know Mid-Atlantic areas like D.C. Baltimore, Virginia and some other shit, you know what I mean? And this phone right here is for the whites and the Spanish, right? So I'm like, okay, I go to get a...

I'm like, I know what phone I'm using because a lot of the white guys like, people don't understand this. Look, look, one thing about it is, if you've been in prison, a lot of white guys, their families cut them off. Their people cut them off.

Because a lot of them, and here's the truth of why. Because a lot of them were pieces of shit. You know what I mean? It's not like this, like, that's how I look at some of these, a lot of them guys, like, who are on here talking shit

and all that kind of stuff. Like, these white guys never did shit in the street. They just, you know what I mean? They did some goofy shit. You know what I mean? They were on drugs and they robbed their mothers. They robbed people. You know what I mean?

Like, I'm not talking about it. commit fraud, I mean, I actually physically did this up shit. So, like, they're nobodies. So what do you think? People are going to send them anything in jail or do anything for? No. And look, you know I'm stating the truth because you've seen it. Like, out of every other race, you know what I mean?

The white guys are the ones who really actually get cut off. You know what I mean? Like, they don't have nobody doing shit. So they don't use the phone as much, you know? And that you didn't have that many Spanish guys. So I'm like, shit. So I go to hop on a phone. Dude, dude, this dude, I forget where he's from where he goes.

you're from you're the DC DMV I said man I was I'm white I'm using this white phone dude so it was only like four of us to use that phone you know what I mean and you're only out an hour a day or I think it's 45 minutes in daytime 45 minutes of night so it's up for them people I've seen them people fighting over and all that shit so then you get you know when you get to these places you get like these rah rah guys you know scumbags So I got a hernia at disc in my neck. So I actually signed up to go to Pill Line, which I never did before. And I did that so I could get out like an extra half an hour, you know, walk down the Pill Line all because it's locked down. So I'm going down to Pill Line one day. And so I see all the – and, you know, these stand-up white guys, they always got the compound jobs.

They're right up under the police, if you ever notice. They get to do whatever the fuck they want. So there was a group of them, and they would like hang out all day around the pill line, all that shit. So I'm walking down there, and I'm running to this kid Brock that I knew from Scoot Hill. I knew this, he's from Boston. I knew him when he was a kid, you know what I mean? He came in.

So he knew me. C-C. He's like, oh, what's up? Oh, what's up, man? So we, you know, bam, what's up and all that shit? So as I'm going back through the gate, his little troll looking. He's like, is he good? Some hillbilly.

I'm like, and I hear it. I can't get back through the gate because, you know, where he walked. through, like, where the COs are, you know, in the middle of the compound. So I can't get back through. So I hear Brock like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good. Are you sure? So, like, okay, I'm a show these, right? So the next day, I come walking out the pill line by myself.

So I walk right up for him. You know what I mean? Now he's got his back turn. I smack him. Bam, I hit him his back. He turns around. I'm like, what's up? I'm like, you know, you tell me what's up.

I said, you're ass around if I'm good or something. He's like, now he's got him. excuse. No, there was somebody who came on the end. I said, look. I said, here's how we're going to do this, man. I said, check this out. I said, let me issue this first. Where are you from? New Mexico. I asked the other guy. Where are you from? Texas. The other guy from some off-the-wall points. I said, listen. I said, this is my backyard. I said, now, what are you guys doing here? Oh, disciplinary. They're lying. they're lying they're hiding right you know what I mean they don't do that the only person can

have to give you this from their transfers to the H.O I think I would know you know what I mean because I've never even got one like like even when I got sent to big Sandy that's because they've raised my points that wasn't disciplinary they just and they send you in your in your region there's only reasons they're going to send you out of your region okay they're going to send you out of your region if you got too much influence in your region they will do that but then they're going to send you to a penitentiary not an FCI or if you're hiding from a bunch of people in your area, you know, because the BOP

small. So I know what type of time them guys are on. So I was just like, man, and I was already pissed off. I was like, man, I felt like just, you know, but then they're all, you know, running around. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Biggie, and all I said, I don't, I don't mess with them, man. But it's just like a lot of them, and you know what? A lot of them,

they're just like, just be yourself. You know what I mean? You don't have to do that shit. You know, because you run into the wrong person. But then, as I'm there. That was just a weird place, man. It was a really weird place. But the feds, like I said, it's changed, you know.

Since I got out. Now, since I got out of that, that was, I got out New Year's Eve of 22. That's when I was released, okay, from that little three and a half years. Okay. So since that, you know, I've been doing my real estate stuff and all. But now back in August, here's what happens. Of course. I swear to God, it's always the people you try to.

help. So I do a lot of, I'll contract out jobs. I got a buddy who's got a MHIC license and stuff like that and, you know, he's a good friend. And so I do a lot of like, I guess sometimes go to do the work, but I go down like, say a job's 50 grand or something like that, you know what I mean, that's $50,000 to remodel or whatever, you know, I'll put everything together. You know, I'll call up a concrete guy. I'll do all that kind of stuff. I'm pretty good at selling the jobs myself. You know what I mean? I'll show up and I'll, you know, I mean, If somebody's just getting their house painted or whatever, I walk, I walk back out on, on their, you know, say they got like a little deck, brick deck or whatever, you know, like patio type thing. I'll say, oh, yeah, man, you know, you might want to get that done.

You see the crack in there and, you know, stuff like that. I mean, I've been doing that like. Upsell them? Yes, yes, upsell them. I learned natural carpet cleaning, like with scotch guard and stuff. Right. Like, you know, Scotts card, come on. I've put water in that thing before, you know what I mean?

Because I didn't have scotch. But I was, actually, I was one of the first people who did the air duct shit, the cleaning an air ducts. I did it down there when I was on the run down there for this place called AmeriClean, man. Dude, I didn't know nothing. I fell through somebody's roof. I made up through their ceiling and fell through their dining room table, right? Because look, we're supposed to be.

Now, I don't know how it is now. But back then, our truck said Nat could satisfy a certified National Air Duck Association, Natas, or some shit like that. I'm not certified. I'm actually on the run. So I start working. Now, I'm doing good upselling the jobs and stuff like that. Here's what happens. So we do, we also do dryer vents, you know, clean the dryer vents. Now, you usually go on the roof and push the thing down and all that kind of stuff. I at least know how to do that. Well, I'll go to this home down and probably around like Coconut Road or something like that, nice home. So they wanted their air ducts done and they also wanted the dryer vent. I think I'm so stupid. I probably sold them on the dryer vent. You know what I mean? Like, you know what I mean? Charged my 100 bucks.

I just climb up there and push them. So they go for it. So I'm like, okay, let me get my ladder and stuff. I'm going to go up to do the dryer vent. They're like, no, no, no, no, no. You go right here through the attic or whatever, right? Now, me being from, I thought an attic was this, because I'm from Baltimore City.

And growing up, I didn't even really understand, like, you know, every attic I've been in. It's just been like a hard floor, you know what I mean? Where you can walk across the whole thing. Right. I'm figuring the same thing. So they're like, no, here's the access to it. They pull it down.

I go up the ladder, and it was right there in their kitchen, right? First fucking step I tell, boom, I come crashing through her fucking, I come crashing through the drywall. The drywall. Yes. So I fall down. They're like, are you okay? I'm like, I'm all disarranted. Like, yeah.

So I'm like, I don't know what the fuck to say. They're like, did you miss the beam? I'm like, yes, I missed the beam. You know what I mean? So I didn't know you had to walk. on these beams and shit i just thought you know i felt right through that i remember i've going to place man i hate to say this shit but like i'd go in there and i'd be like um it might be like an old old-est lady or something and listen i just want to say i've changed

you know what i mean like i've never heard goodbye and i'm like i just want to say i've done shit like this right so it was only like you know the coupon i'll say like 29 bucks to clean 10 air ducts and who the fuck wants to do that so i went in and um i would go in and i go in the air duct and you know how like if you reach back a little back a bit it's like that little insulation that'll get on you in it's like real itchy shit or the yellow shit i take a piece of that off so then i walk up i'd be like man and i could tell you know she's old and fat and stuff have you been having problems breathing she'd be like yes that's why i throw it at her this is all through your vents and all she's like oh my god what can i do well from um i'll do a 30

bucks a bent. I could seal that off. You know what I mean? You won't have these problems no more. You know, I've done shit like that. I remember one time, it almost called a household fire because it, um, we would advertise the, to clean your blower, your central air conditioner blower or whatever. Right. I'm not, I'm not like a mechanical guy. You know what I mean? So I had got away with every time somebody had gotten that, I would just, they wouldn't watch me shit. So I'll fucking just go take like a toothbrush, make sure the power's turning off or whatever. And I'm just reached you in there cleaning, you know. I did. it you know what I mean like you'll see on like inside edition like that type of shit so one time

I get this I get this chick right so I go down there and um she wants me to actually do this she's watching me so I have to take this whole blower out right I was so proud of myself man because I actually got it out pretty easy and all so I'll go ahead and I open it up you know what I mean I'm not even having no problems I cleaned the hell out of this motherfucker right front she yeah it's awesome job or whatever I go ahead I'll put it back in I guess I put the red wire where the blue wire is supposed to be or something like that. I said, all right, all right, man, go ahead. Crank it up.

You see, get that power, that motherfucker. Boom. Like, you know what I mean? Fucking fire everywhere and shit. Dude, look, I had a, um, I, look, I was in, um, Boca, Boca Raton. I was working for Steamer of Boca Raton. So my manager was, he was just a regular dude, too. This one manager, he was cool.

Like, none of us are certified by Nune. of that shit. So we get this lady, right? This Jewish lady, rich lady. So she calls and she wants to get an area to rug cleaned. Okay. So area rug in the sofa. So that's my first job of the day. So me, I'm the crew chief. So this guy, Gary, he's older than me. He's my helper. So we get all high. We smoke some weed and shit. So, you know what I mean? So we're, you know, we're all fucking stern. So I get to this house. So you go up to this house, big, beautiful house. So I ring the doorbell. I hear the lady, come on in.

So I walked through the house. Now, fuck him, walk in. I'm just trying to hear her voice where she's at. So I finally get to this room. It's her. She's laying there on a sofa. Now, when she's laying there on the sofa, I was like, yes, man.

I said, you want a sofa clean today in an area of all. So she's like, yeah. I said, okay, um, what's sofa? You know what I mean? She's like this one. So she's on the sofa. So I'm like, well, you're going to have to, you know, get off the sofa or whatever. So she's like, for that, that's the area of rug.

I want you to tell me what kind of rug that is. So I look down. I like, Gary, tell you what kind of rug it is? He looks at me. He's like, dude, you're the crew chief. So I look and I'm like, um, it's brown. You know, it's a brown area rug. It's very nice.

I've reached out. Yes, it's a very nice area rug. What kind of rug is it? I'm like, uh, you know, she's like, get the hell out. Get the hell out. So she throws us out. So now my manager, based of 55. I guess that was my sharp number, whatever, I think at the time.

Give me a call on a private line. I'm like, oh, shit. So it's Dave. So he's like, what don't just happen at this house and all this kind of? He's giving me, he's giving me the third degree. I said, you know what? And he's this type of guy, I could get him. I said, I said, you know what, Dave?

I said, all this. I said, I'm going to do this. I'm going to come get you. I said, we're going to come out here. I said, I'm going to give you $1,000 if you can tell me or her what kind of rug that is. Since you're so smart, he's like this, just go to your next job error. You know what I mean? Because he didn't know either.

Right. I did, I got this, one time this kid ratted me out because it was a Saturday, man. It was a Saturday. So, you know, you want to, I'm in South Florida. You want to get off early, you know what I mean? So it's, you know, you take a light day on that. So I go to this house and it's like, it was a nice job, dude. It was like, it was like four bedrooms, four bedrooms I did, you know, living room,

dining room. So it was probably like a like a $400, $500 job or whatever, you know, which I'm getting, at the time I'm getting like 16% of that. And this is in 1996, 1990. So it was a good money, you know. So. I want to upsell it. So I do everything so

we did a good job. I always do a good job. So the lady was cool. She's like, she wants everything scotch guarded. Now, Scotch Guard is 80% of the cleaning price.

And all you got to do spray some shit on there, you know? So I'm like, awesome. I've sold on a lot of Skyskart. Now this is, we're closing

on almost a $1,000 job. That's pretty good for fucking two hours. You know what I mean? This is one thing. So get this shit done and all. I'll send the kid out to the thing. I was like,

go ahead. Go ahead. get the scotch guard and shit you know what i mean now he's my helper he didn't fill up the scotch guard that day so we didn't have new scotch cards so he comes in he's like erred we got to go we got to go back the office and get scotch card you know because i i forgot to fill the scotch card so i'm like okay am i going to drive back to this office 45 minutes before that's another hour and a half they got her 45 so i said like guess i said um i said here's what i said you see that hose it's like yeah i said take that hose go turn it on and fill the scotch guard

thing up with water. And then go spray water everywhere. So he did it. You know what I mean? Like, so next thing, you know, he went back to the office, Bradd me out. So that next week, Dave calls me in the office. And he's like, he was ready to fire me. He's like, Eric, you did this with the scotch card, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, this and that, this. So I got out of that one on this. I said, Dave, you know what that was? I said, what day was? He's like, it was fucking Saturday. I said, exactly. I said, now imagine, Dave. By that, you were working on Saturday. You were the manager. Now, would you rather have me spray that water?

You know what I mean? Which ain't going to make no difference anyway. I said, or would you rather me have to come all the way back here, get the Scotts Guard, go back there, spray it, then come back here and then you lock everything up? He's like, just get to get out of my office and don't trust nobody.

You know what I mean? So it's always I've been involved in all that kind of shit. But like, everything's an off sale. Everything's a con. You know what I mean? Right. But like, That's a lot of stuff like, but like since I've been out, I'll tell you what happened. So as we're talking about working. So I've actually, so I'm doing a lot of remodel and stuff and I'm middlemaning a lot of it, you know, a lot of work and stuff.

So a lot of my people, that's a cash business really. A lot of my workers and stuff, I'll pay them in cash. And a lot of times these people got to feed their family. So truthfully, like we'll get paid a third of like somebody's going to get their place for remodel and you pay the third, then a third, then you know you pay everybody and all that kind of stuff. you know, I always try to pay my people, you know, if they needed or whatever. So, I was, you know, I've been known to have a lot of cash on me. Let's just say it that way. So this is back in, um, it happened June 30th.

I'm helping this person out. I used to date this girl, right? And I'm helping her out. And listen, this is how much I'm helping her out. She's down on nothing. She's losing her house. Her car's impounded. Her BGE's cut off.

And her hot water heater blows up. She has no hot water heater. I get her hot water heater, pay $1,000, get somebody to install it. You know what I mean? That same day it blew up. Her VG goes out. I pay $1,000 for that. Her car was impounded.

She couldn't get the money and get it out. Pay $1,000 for that. And I give her like $700 for her kid's birthday. Now, I told you, I used to date her back in the day when she was hot. You know what I mean? And she's up there in age and stuff like, yes, she ain't hot no more, you know? So I'm talking, I'll mess with some other chicks and stuff like that. But I guess she just, you know, she feels.

a certain type of way, and she got mad because, you know, she had the nerve to ask me after I do all this? She says, hey, Eric, can you give me, like, $900 for Botox? I said, Botox. I said, you're lucky. You got water. You know what I mean? I said, you need to wake up, you know? So anyway, I had a bunch of cash that I was actually paying because we did, we did these two big jobs, you know, we did a $50,000 job, and I think like a $40,000 job, and then plus and all the other little job and stuff, there's a lot of cash accumulated. So I show up at her house and I go upstairs because I was in that neighborhood and I go upstairs and I was doing something. I was relaxing before I went out or something. And I put the money in her basement.

And, you know, it was a decent amount of money. You know, it was like 60. So this crazy chick, she, I guess, goes down there, steals, I guess she's on drugs or whatever. She steals the money. She steals the money. Goes and puts it in a storage. And now she left her kid there with me and everything. Like, you know, but I didn't do not. I'm just like, I come down, so it wasn't in 10 minutes. I see, I'm getting the money. This ain't even my money. I got to pay this out to people and everything. So, it's just all from jobs. You know what I mean? It's been accumulate a lot of this money's got going to bank and shit like that too so i'm like i know what she did so i wait for she comes back i'm like look i said give me that money back you know what i mean

so she's all spaced out whatever i don't know what you're talking about um she blames her other son she's like gregg price stole it on dominic's birthday i said domic's birthday was on 28 i said gregg and them haven't been here i said i just put this money in here today i said And there's been nobody. You stole the money. Just go get it. I said, I got to take care of all this shit. So she's sitting there.

She's like, yeah, that's so I was like, okay, maybe when she comes down off whatever binge she's on, you know what I mean, I get the money back. So like two, three days or whatever, go to fuck by. And she's sitting here. She's like, she still won't come up off the money. So now, like, I put a tracker on a car and everything, you know what I mean? Because I'm not letting her get away with my money. So just so happened.

I had a buddy coming from out of town and he rents this hotel room and it's called The Comfort Inn. It's like a CD hotel. It's some bullshit. So he don't like it or whatever there. So he paid for like two weeks or whatever. So he leaves.

So I was like, he let me have that hotel room or whatever. So I was with another chick. Just so happens. I swear I had nothing to do with the tracker or nothing. This girl, this stole my money. I guess she's trying to not be at her house or whatever. She comes to this same hotel and checks in.

checks in the same hotel I'm just at with another girl, right? Just, just the luck of it. I come down in the lobby. I see her with a tanning bag. Dang, I see her with a tanning bag all bulged out. I know what that, I know what looks in that tanning bag on her shoulder. That's my dough, you know what I mean? So I, we're in the lobby.

I snatch it, boom. So I snatch it. I'm trying to get out of there. So as I'm trying to get out of there, you know, I'm not beating nobody up or nothing. I got whatever much of my money I got back. I'm trying to leap. So as I'm trying to get out there, I got my truck up on the parked over here. The girl, I'm like, she's got her car over here.

So I don't even know nothing about the girl, you know, they ripped my shirt off. Did one shit try to get me? She's ripped my shirt off. I'll just shake off that. So I'm headed up the wall. Now, I don't even see, I'm not paying attention what's going on behind me. Now, the girl that I'm with, she's like five foot two, probably 115 pounds. You know what I mean?

She's a breast cancer survivor her hair thing. I turn around. They're kicking her ass. Her and her son are beating the hell out of this girl. So obviously, I got to turn it. turn back around. You know what I mean? So I turn around. I think I might have just like kicked her real quick. I just kicked her off the girl. And then I got a bag. It's 50-sum grand. You know what I mean? I got a bag. So I just hit the kid in his mouth. You know what I mean? So he fell back. Now he's a

boxer. He's one of them kids. He's like 17 or wherever. But he's one of them kids that like, you know, they got them on social media knocking kids out of school, beats up the principal. He's one of them. So anyway, so now I get back to where I'm going. I count the money. It's about seven grand light. So, okay, let's just call it out of loss. Now, Lord, you can come over here right now. Punch me in the mouth for $7,000. I'll let's do that all day long.

You know what I mean? You know, keep it for what it is. This crazy person gets the police involved. The police show up, because it happened in the lobby of a hotel. So they get the police involved. So the first thing the police do, and this is the truth, the police don't need to do their due diligence. She sits here and tells the police that I robbed her for 50s.

$50,000 cash at the Comfort Inn. Now, the police don't even say, where'd you get the money or nothing like that? She don't got a job. She ain't worked in years. Her car just got repoed. She ain't paid her mortgage in years. So you're telling me, you got $50,000. And if you do got $50,000, this isn't the Foxwood Casinos.

This isn't the MGM. This isn't Vegas. This is the Comfort Inn. Who the hell has $50,000 with the Comfort Inn? Right. So anyways, but the cops don't care. So they put a warrant out on me. So I'm like, all right.

So I call a lawyer, whatever he finds out there's a warrant out. I mean for robbery of my own money. So I'm like this. I tell the girl I was with, I was like, look, I was like, since they did that, if I got a fight in court, you should go press charges on that for beating you up. You know what I mean? Because that's really the only assault that was there.

If you said, I assaulted anybody because I think it was robbery. And she even said over $50,000. She'd have been smarter saying I stole a watch or something. You know what I mean? It's more like, you know. So anyway, So I tell the girl to go press charges on that so that it would look better on me in court when I've got to face music. Now, I'm going on the run.

I'm not going to sit here and turn myself in there or nothing. So the girl goes to press charges. Next thing you know, she calls me. She's like, Eric, they're locking me up. I said, what? I said, what the for robbery? I said, they're locking you up for robbery. Are you crazy?

They locked her up for every charge I had, they locked her up for us. So now, Matt, I'm sick. So I call up, I call up an attorney or whatever, a good attorney. I meet him in a parking lot because I'm on a run. You know what I mean? I meet him in a parking lot. Pay him. They gave her no bail, but then the next day they wound up giving her, they gave her a bail.

So that was, so it took like a, about, I was probably chilling for like a month or something like that. Next thing you know, they show up at this place that I'll stay in at this, this apartment, like, you know what I mean? It's like, it's in a suburb, the show like that next year, there's like, it's like a, it's like a, 25 cops out there and all they're screaming open the door obviously I'm not open the door I'm just like I'm chilling

just sitting there you know what I mean so they're there for like two hours they're beating on the windows and shit like that so they go to the place and get a key and they come in

so that's what I was like surrendered to them so I'm like okay this is obviously stupid so I get my lawyer is probably the best lawyer in Maryland you know what I mean

so I hire him so he gets down there to do my bail review or whatever man they still kept me with no damn bail. They were like this. And my lawyer who's brought up, he's like, listen, your honor, first off, this person who's pressing these charges is saying

they had $50,000 cash. Their lifestyle doesn't fit that because they pulled her up on case search. Look, her house is in foreclosure. This is that. This is that. She can't get a phone in her name. You know, I was helping her out. So the judge actually laughed. Judge like, yeah, I don't believe she had $50,000, but I still think he's dangerous or whatever.

Oh, because in the report, she said like this, She said, she came to her house and I had my dog at her house. I've had my dog. She was sitting right there. I've had my dog for 10 years. You know what I mean? I've done, did a bin and had my dog taking care of by people, all that stuff. I love my dog.

That's my dog. They say she's turning to make it like I stole my own dog and all kind of bullshit. You know what I mean? Because of what they're believing this is this weirdo. I'm like, first off, obviously if she's got $50,000, there's been a bigger crime committed than me robin. Right. You know what I mean? where'd that come from?

What are you doing 50 grand, your teenage son, and you're staying in a hotel that's two blocks from your house? Like, come on. You know, so they didn't give me no bail. So eventually I wound up, I wound up going to trial, you know what I mean, to trial date or whatever. My lawyer did do this. He got me a really fast court date because I would have still been sitting there, you know,

because I was indicted or whatever. And it takes like a year to get to court. But he got a quick court date, and they just dismissed the whole case when it got the court. And then the girl I was with or whatever, she wound up getting her case dismissed, you know, the poor girl. You know what I mean? So that cost me a bunch of money. Like, I've had somebody running with these crazy cops around here. Like, I remember back in, like, some stuff's just like you got to pay attention to, like, when you're on the streets.

Like, back when I was selling drugs and stuff, like, I had a few times, like, all right, I had one situation where I had this girl. she was holding uh she was holding shit for me right and i was screwing around with her whatever you know you know but she wasn't my girlfriend or nothing she's messing with other dudes and all well she gets mad that i'm out with this other chick she gets all drunk she's got her for all my drugs and shit in her car and she's in denny's like you know denny's is a cop hanging right and it's like two o'clock in the morning right so she's a denny's i'm trashed you know she's calling me and they it was on phone tap you you need to come get all your shit blah blah But I said, Nicole, what are you doing?

I was like, calm down, please, please, you know what I mean? But you know how women are when to get married. Yeah. So I got to show up with Denny. So it's me and my buddy. We show up there. Now, I'm in my truck, my escalate. So I coax her to come outside.

I'm like, look, just come outside, talk to me, please. So her car is right there. But there's a cop there. There's an actual physical cop there in uniform. I'm like, look. And she's making a big seat. Get that shit out of my car. I'm like, Jesus Christ.

So look, here's what I do. I grab her. And I'm like, I don't beat women or like that kind of shit. But I grab her, I throw her in my truck real quick. You know what I mean? And I'm fucking like, right, shut the door. So I lock the door where I saw, I fucking jump in the truck. I take off off the street.

Because I don't want none of us getting trouble. Sure enough. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. I'm getting pulled over. Now, this was in that time frame after I had that accident. So I didn't even have a driver's license. You know, my license is suspended everything. I'm shit-paced drunk, too.

So I'm getting pulled over. I'm like, say, here's how I should have known the Fed's running. So the cop pulls me over, he comes up, and he's like, I had a physical driver's license, but it was suspended. You know what I mean? When I say I had no driver's license, they give you that way past 45 days, so that's no good. So I handed my actual hard license or whatever. Next thing you know, I see the paddy wagon roll up. So, you know, if there's a cop, and then a paddy wagon rolls up, you're going to jail.

So I jump on my phone. I call my bail bondsman. I'm like, hey, listen, check this out. I'm right here at Denny's in it on Bel Air Road or whatever. I'm going to get locked up. Paddy wagons here, everything like that. Just be ready to bail me out. He's like, okay, just like I was under investigation.

They gave me directions to a 50 cent concert, the feds did. I was coming from Ocean City. It was 4th of July weekend. So we're down there partying his shit. And this is when 50 Cent first came out like 2003. When he first got his first out, he was like the hottest thing going. So they had to rock the mic tour. So we wound up scoring some tickets for that.

that it was my little brother and my buddy so i leave ocean city i come back to baltimore pick my little brother up grab some more liquor so i was always drunk i was like i stayed drunk so i grab some more liquor or whatever so now we're headed to the concert which is in virginia so on the way there i get lost now i remember back that do you remember on star yeah okay well looks if anybody's ever had on star at least back in them days if you would hit your on star it would just be some would come on there. They don't know how to give you directions or nothing. You know, honestly, I used to hit it and talk to them at night and shit when I'm driving around, flirt with them and shit like that. And they would always give me bad directions. I make fun on. So this day,

this day, I was, I hit that. Some guy came on. Now, I should have been paying attention because I hadn't paid my own start billing like two months, you know. So this guy comes on. He gave me, man, he gave me perfect directions. He knew everywhere I had to go and everything. I told him he's so professional. I gave him a compliment, man, at the end of it. I said, sir i said let me just say something to you man i said i you know i've used one star before i said but you are the you are the best on star guy ever man you you really are professional so the irony of it's like i'm thinking he's the best one star guy he had to be thinking yo you're the dumbest criminal you know what i mean right he wound up when the discovery came out he was the age

you know what i mean so there's a lot it's like like a lot of shit's like just been wild you know what i mean wild and crazy type of stuff you know but i try to you know i actually start a YouTube channel now myself you know what I mean I'm trying to get it up and run this shit it's difficult you know what I mean well why why when did you start it um probably like two weeks ago you know I'm I got some I just started learning how to edit and like put backgrounds and stuff behind me and stuff like that but it's like you got to get out to the like I don't know how to get out to all the viewers like well look I started two weeks ago I got like 80 subscribers you know I mean. So it's just like, well, yeah, when you do shows like this, you, you, you tell them about the, you know, tell them you got a podcast. Like people will go there and check it out. Oh, I can. I can say that one. Yeah. I mean, we'll put, I'll put a, I'll put a description. I'll put the description to your YouTube channel in the, the description. I'll put the link to your YouTube channel in the description. And when I, when I, when I sign off, I'll say, hey, check out, you know, check out your, uh, Eric's.

YouTube channel. Oh, okay. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot. Yeah. What do you have up right now? Huh? What do you have up? I got a, I got some, I got like videos up of where I'm breaking down like certain stuff, like, you know, prison stuff. I broke down like Trump's federal indictments. Doing like prison contest, street content, stuff like that. Honestly, to be honest with you, what my goal is and it's crazy, it sounds crazy.

Like everybody wants to hear all this gangster shit and all this bullshit. dude I was born into that type of life I hate that shit like honestly really what I want to do I want to get into politics honestly you know because I'm figuring like you got that guy in Pennsylvania the guy who beat Dr. Oz

Fetterman you know what I mean come on dude yeah like come on look at the president Joe Biden I mean I think I'm right I think I'm a little bit more more there than him you know we just had that just like we just had that thing happening on the Francis Scott Key Bridge

just the other day. Yeah. Yeah, that was like, that's crazy, man. And the other day, I thought that was like yesterday. Was that yesterday? Two days ago. It was like 1.30 to a couple of days ago. Wasn't 1.30 the night before. Yeah. That's a shame, man. Six, I think six people. And, you know, what sucks is like the, it was the workers. You know what I mean? They were working in instruction. It was, you know, there were illegals or whatever. But I mean, these people just work and stuff. You know, like, I like to get into stuff like that. I like to get into like politics. and things like that, like, on just, like, really on a local level, you know, I've been trying to do, like, things, like, set things up. Like, even, like, this last experience of just going to jail for that three and a half months, I noticed something.

Now, when I was in there, I'm almost 50, you know, I'm 48 years old, so there was only about 10 of us on that whole tier that weren't from 18 to 25, you know, so I started looking at things, and, like, they got all these programs. like inside of there for them to get their GED for them to do this for these kids to do this but I was thinking like you know why not because they killed the bail system here

there's really no large bail bonds or cash bail so they just let out of whoever they want you know what I'm saying so I was you know I want to get into something where as though I I made you set up a center

and set up a programs where you know okay release them release them to a program where they have to be at my program three days a week you know what I mean I have basically

basically a home training, you know, job training, GED, you know, just life skills. Not only had no confidence in their self, you know, just, just things like that. And, you know, to them when they go to court, they can say, hey, I've already accomplished all that. What's the point of putting me in jail, you know, but they put these damn programs in jail, you know what I mean? So now I've been trying to do stuff like that and giving them all that stuff, you know. But listen, I'm, I'm sorry, go ahead. Yeah, you ought to go check my channel out. I broke down, oh, I broke down Diddy.

Right. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know anything about. Like, I know just what, there was an article of what a couple of guys have said. Like, I don't know if everything has come out yet, has it? Or, well, here's the thing. If the feds come and once the feds raid, you're getting indicted. So, you know what I mean?

Like I told you, like when they, this last time, that was the state of did that. But like, I remember that just did, Eric, come on out. I could have flushed the body down the toilet. They didn't care. Yeah. They got the evidence. But yeah, he's done. You know what I mean?

He's toast. Like you hear people say, oh, money. Man, they print the money. What is wrong with you people? Like, do people pay attention? Like, if you even look at it like, okay, then they're talking about it. You could go somewhere with, with no extradition. They'll send somebody to kidnap you.

Yeah. Yeah. They'll grab you. Yeah. I knew how many people did you meet? I met plenty of people in, in the medium and the low where they were in their own country. And the feds have no extradition. They just come kidnap you, put you on a plane.

Your people don't say nothing. Like extradition isn't what people think it is. I've seen a guy, listen, I've seen a guy who had a life sentence because they sent him to go kidnap somebody. The feds did or whatever, like going a mercenary type mission. And he got caught in that other place or whatever. And he told him the fed's here. Fed's here came and got him and locked him up for some type of treason or something didn't want.

Yeah. That was crazy. But like... Yeah, you go mad. Like, I was telling people like, all you got to do is look at like, okay, you remember 9-11, okay. The UN, you know, they, okay,

9-11 was done by, something by Latin then, okay, Saddam Hussein's over Iraq and all that stuff. So the U.A, or the UN said that he didn't have weapons and mass destruction. You can't go get him. What did George Bush do? Hold him up here.

Watch this. You know, went over there and got them. So you're telling me they go get to Saddam Hussein. kill him decapitate him then his kids or whatever they hung him or whatever built a McDonald's took his gold tulip but they're gonna have problems with did he stop it right he's going down where where where where is he um um he didn't even leave the country i think um oh his private jet was already in the air and it was headed somewhere in in africa you know one of countries in africa yeah i i broke down like the the defani willis do you pay attention

to her no that's the georgia prosecutor he's prosecuting trump in georgia for the lex of Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, and then she got called with the dude or whatever. You know, she's at there. She tried to play the race card, which I was like, what a hypocrite are you? She's sitting there trying to play the race car. But right now, she's got about seven RICO cases on young black rappers that are there trying to use. Now, look, I don't know if these guys are guilty or innocent, but she's trying to use their rap lyrics to send them away for life.

But now when somebody looks into her dirt, you know, like I even said a comment on her, she's like, you know, they went into her text message and all. I haven't had a private conversation in 20 fucking years. Join the crap. You know what I mean? It's just the truth. Right. It sucks, but I mean, you can't do dirty because you're black. You know what I'm saying?

She's like, I won't do this to a black. You're putting black men away every day. It's all bullshit. Like, I used to tell guys in prison when the shit was going on with Joe Biden and Trump. I'm a Trump guy. I like Trump. You know what I mean? And, like, I'll say it like this.

Like, I like Trump because I like Trump. You know what I mean? I just like his character. I like who he is. And I do like a lot of his policies because I'm not some guy like, you know, when people are like, I wish there was no cops. You can't have that. That's anarchy.

You know, you can't have that. You know, you do need law and order. You do need things. You know what I mean? So it's like, you know, when these guys say this stuff, like I even put on there, like, how they're saying these street codes and all that kind of stuff. Listen, first off, these guys don't, these same guys who don't believe in the street code. I got to do an argument with this guy.

And he said, oh, well, I wouldn't do that. He's like, what would I do that? tell her. I said, look, if I seen somebody kidnapping a child, okay, am I going to call the police? You're right. I am. Call me whatever if you want. I'm chasing down myself too, but there's a better chance of the police catching them. Listen, at the end of the day, I would rather you call me a million rats than have to look you in the face as a father and say, damn, Eric, you could prevent it that threat than my child. You know, there's certain things that are like, um, terrorist shit. If I knew somebody's going to blow up a shopping mall, yeah, I'd turn on the

you know what I mean? Yes. You know what I mean? But this one dude's arguing me, Matt, right? So he's saying all this and that. So I'm like, yeah, I said, but you're the same saying all that. I said, but if you walked outside and that car you're paying a thousand dollars a month car paying for was missing, who you call him? Right. If someone took all the money out of your bank account, wouldn't you want someone to cooperate and try and get your money back or your mother's retirement fund? Yes. No, mom, mom can just sleep. on my couch? Come on and stop. They don't know how to, listen, but they're lying.

They're bullshit. See, they don't know how to like, see, you know, like, like I said, like, like me, there's certain things like, dude, you, you could shoot me. You could shoot me. I won't tell him. I won't show, I won't tell him. No, that's, that's, that's just who I am. And I'm retired.

I'm not in streets or anything, but that's just who I am, you know, but like, at the end of the day, if I have to shoot somebody or something and some lady sees it and calls the police and comes to be a witness, she's supposed to do that. Right. She's supposed to do that, you know what I mean? But there's certain things. And these same people who are saying, oh, I wouldn't do they all did it. They all told them their friends.

You know what I mean? It's all facts. You know, there's no honor amongst feeds. You know what I mean? There is none. Hey, if you guys like the video, do me a favor. Hit the subscribe button, hit the bell so you get notified of videos just like this. Also, do me a favor and go to Eric's YouTube channel.

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