Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Tom Segura Exposes Garth Brooks (The Real Story)

Episode Date: November 19, 2024

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Five or six years ago, Garth Brooks posted some sort of a video on his social media and he said, I'm going on tour. Let's get weird. And people were like, that was a little strange. The vibe of the video was a little odd. And there's a podcast called Your Mom's House and it features comedian Tom Segura and his wife, Christina P. who is also a comedian. On this podcast, the two of them, husband and wife, start talking about how Garth Brooks is sometimes a bit stiff on camera. And he looks, the joke was something about like, he looks like he's wearing human skin, but he isn't human. And they are just joking.

They are totally joking. But the joke continues episode after episode. It becomes kind of a running theme on the podcast. And they start talking about these specific instances where Garth will give an interview and he's kind of like, you know, deer in the headlights. and there's just something a little off about him. So people are listening to the podcast. They start picking up on the joke and you know how the internet is.

Some people really take hold and grab onto certain things. And sometimes it's things that you wouldn't expect. And for whatever reason, this joke just took hold. So considering the fact that Garth Brooks is the most listened to solo music artist of all time, even more than the Beatles in the solo category, because they're in the band. category. He is also the highest selling country artist of all time. He is the highest selling male artist of all time. And he has the most certified platinum albums of any other musician. It is crazy. He has the most number one hits in country music and the most number one albums

on the Billboard 200. So he is at the top of the top. This man is the most successful, the most famous. No one is more talked about or watched or listened to. So Tom Segura, I don't know if you've ever seen the podcast. Yeah, it's hilarious. Yeah, they're actually really funny. Him and his wife are just now dying over the fact that they have started this joke that has really taken off on the internet and they really start to lean into the joke. And they start saying, you know, I don't just think. It's that he's kind of robotic in the internet posts or his social media posts. I don't think it's just that he's kind of weird. I think he's a serial killer. And, you know, his wife is like, you know, I think he is too. I really honestly think that Garth Brooks is a serial killer. He's very

awkward on camera sometimes. And then they start talking about how wouldn't this just be the perfect cover for a serial killer? You're the most famous male singer in the world. The world. But it's It's all just to hide the fact that you are actually a serial killer. This is the gist of the things they're saying on the podcast. And if you say you've watched the podcast, you know, they deliver everything they say in kind of a deadpan way. Right. They talk about it as though they're having a serious conversation.

They're not laughing. They're not presenting it as a joke. It's very much sarcasm. But as you well know, you've been on YouTube for a while. some people are just not what how can i say this nicely matthew some people are not the brightest bulbs on the chandelier and they think they think they're being serious they do not understand this is a joke so tom and christina then lean even farther into the joke and they are loving the fact that they have started this joke on their podcast and people on the internet have picked it up and they are

running with it. They think it is absolutely hilarious. That's something that started out as nothing more than quips about Garth being kind of robotic and weird has turned into this rumor on TikTok among really young kids, people in their 20s. That's kids to me. And so for the next year, this joke kind of morphs and twists. And before long, people start going to Garthbrook's concerts. And they are holding up homemade signs that say, where are the bodies g so so real

quick have you ever seen there okay so it was a movie but it was also an it was also an autobiography Chuck Barris created several game shows in like the 70s the point is is that he was

you know it was kind of like a TV personality and he wrote a memoir about his life. Okay. And in the memoir, he admits to being an assassin for the CIA. Okay. And so what happens is, and when you read the biography, the autobiography, you can put together like he was shooting the gong show or something in this area of the city and some politician

or a judge or something was assassinated, was shot and killed. And this is real? Well, the whole book is like this. Talks about this assassination, this one, this, the mob, or the murder of this mobster. And he's always in these locations. Oh, wow. And so here's the funny thing. He writes this book and it's hugely successful.

I mean, it's like a bestseller and people like, is this true? This is insane that it. It is. In the end, he admits. that no i just made it up like he's like but there are those i there he is it is a coincidence that i happen to be in the city when this happened and so people are going over the what before he admits it he admits it like a decade later so people have had a decade to be like oh my god this person was killed and they never found out this person was killed this person went

to trial and lost and is doing time for it but they said they didn't do it so you've got like so was like, oh, my God, he did kill this guy, and this guy is in prison right now. So people are thinking, right, I got you. Yeah, people are wrongly imprisoned because of this guy, right. And it's insane. He just says this. And he's like, well, I mean, I basically have a license to kill. Like the CIA isn't going to admit that I've done any of these things. And there's no proof because I'm that good. And he talks about his handlers meeting him and out in a, in, you know, dark alleys and in bars. And so they made a movie about it. And Chuck Clooney. is, I think, his handler.

I forget who plays him. The guy that plays him is great, too. Do you remember the name of the film? The name of the film is A Confession of a Dangerous Mind. Oh, yeah, I've seen it. I did not know that was about a book. I just thought it was a film. I did not know that.

Well, it's based on his film, he's based on his book, which is a true story, which turns out to be bullshit. Not a true story. No. Yeah. who cast who plays him oh sam rockwell plays chuck barris i love sam rockwell it's great he's amazing i love him he's one of my favorites yeah it's been a long time since i've seen that film but i'm going to watch it

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Cox at the checkout to save a whopping 50% off site wide. Great, it's great. I should, you know, I hate it when I do this because I'll mention this and I'll think, God, I got to get that on YouTube and watch it. Yeah. And then I forget it. Yeah. No, that's a great film.

It's a great film. And it shows you that people are really willing to buy into these conspiracy theories. They desperately want to, everybody wants to be the person that, you know, that finds out that there's a, there's a government conspiracy or that, you know, they're putting, especially nowadays that basically all the conspiracies. in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, we now know aren't conspiracies at all. I mean, they're not conspiracy theories that are untrue. These are actually conspiracy theories that are true. Right. There's all these things that you're like, so there are UFOs?

Yeah. Yeah. The government actually did inject people with LSD and LSD and they didn't give people treatment even after they had, you know, that the tuscaggy syphilis experiment i think is one of the most disturbing things that the government has done just because so many people suffered and got sick during that but yeah a lot of those conspiracy theories from decades past have turned out to be true and denied it for denied it for 30 or 40 years forever when that when that photo came out of kennedy and lindenby johnson sitting next to a nazi an actual can we say that on youtube i don't know an actual man from the

German forties in the space station. The guy ended up being the one who helped us go to the moon, you know? Oh, you're talking about Werner von Braun. Werner von Braun. Yeah. And people didn't want to believe that forever. They thought, oh, there's no way the government would partner up with someone like that. Well, they sure did. They did. They absolutely did. So we got to go to the moon. We got to go to the moon. We got to go to the moon. Do it however you have to. So what, so back to Garthbrook. So people are holding up signs. Are they stalking him now? Like kind of what ends up happening is as people are holding up these signs, it's like the guy that holds up the John 316 sign at the football games and nobody knows what it means. As soon as people start holding up these signs

that say, where are the bodies? Other people start seeing the signs and they start asking, you know, what does this mean? So they go searching for the meaning of the signs. And then the joke turned rumor starts showing up on Reddit and Tumblr. You know, and then of course, course, on TikTok. And then someone makes and mass produces t-shirts and starts selling t-shirts outside of Garth Brooks concerts that say, where are the bodies G? On the t-shirts. And this thing just kind of takes on a life of its own. So as the conspiracy theory starts to pick up, people start remembering back in the ancient days of dinosaurs when I was young, that in 1999, Garth Brooks did something, not only unusual, but frankly, really strange.

He invented a totally different persona. Do you remember? I remember we were watching like the Grammys or something and he came out. Like I'd never heard anything about it and he comes out and plays like a rock and roll song and he's dressed like a rock and roller and it was like, what's happening? Nobody knew. He came up with this whole new persona. named him Chris Gaines. And I remember seeing the photos. You know, Garth Brooks has always been a bit rotund, you know, kind of fuller through the

face, but this guy was like thin. And his face was a lot bonier and he had this emo hairstyle, you know, with the bangs down in his eyes and he had the little soul patch and the whole nine yards. Very rock and roll, like you say, and a lot edgier. I remember he would always wear the black suits with the architect's collar, kind of R&B style kind of kind of boys to men style and people were looking at him and saying, you know, I think that's supposed to be Garth Brooks or this guy says he's Garth Brooks and other people like, that's not Garth Brooks. That is absolutely not Garth Brooks. This is some sort of a

publicity stunt or the record company is paying someone to say this is Garth Brooks. People honestly did not believe that it was Garth Brooks. I have the photo. You got to show the photos. I'm trying to find one without all the junk on it. Yeah, you've got to find the photos because he really did look like a different person. He lost a bunch of weight. His face, the bone structure in his face looked different. And I remember seeing an interview, someone asking him, you know, why, why do you want to do this? And he said, well, I just have this other side to my personality.

I just have this other part of me. And, you know, so people are thinking, well, he has this other part of him. He's admitted on camera that he's got this totally different other part to his personality. I went to Apple Music and then to Spotify to try to listen to some Chris Gaines songs because I didn't remember what they sounded like. And that's when I found out Garth Brooks is exclusive only to Amazon music. You can't hear him on any other platform. And I don't have Amazon music, but I did find some stuff on YouTube.

And when I started listening to the Chris Gaines songs, I have to tell you, I was shocked. First of all, Garth Brooks's voice is incredible. I mean, he really, I'm a singer myself, and I will tell you, his voice is stunning. And when he is Chris Gaines, he almost sounds like an R&B singer. Or you remember that band Nelson? And then there was like extreme. Do you remember those kind of 90s? You know, it was kind of soft rock, kind of yacht rock, but elevated.

And then there was like early third eye blind. It's kind of a mix of that. it was a little edgier but still I would say like adult contemporary you know but but nobody really knew what he was trying to what was the point of this but then when people hear this conspiracy theory and they find out that he had this whole era of his life where he was a different person they're like there's something wrong with this guy there's something wrong with him it was very weird for people they had this manly man good old country boy that all the bros liked all the jocks and the hunters and the you know the big truck driving guys like and then suddenly

he's appearing in a wig and an emo wig at that he's wearing a very fancy suit you know and people honestly just did not know what to think and the music pretty much bombed if i remember right yeah yeah it was it didn't do well i don't know if it was good or bad but i know it didn't do well it did not it did not want to accept that no no and And when I listened to the music, getting ready, you know, to talk to you, I was like, you know, the music really isn't bad. There's a couple of songs that I would consider, you know, kind of similar to the old boys to men stuff and that aren't, you know, I don't know, if I would say extreme and Nelson so much, but it was a cross between R&B and kind of, I don't know, poppier music, but his voice is just incredible. And, you know, it's a little bit sweet and a little sexier. I mean, I don't think of sexy when I think of Garth Brooks. But it flopped because people were just like, this is too weird.

It's honestly too weird. I think if Garth Brooks brought Chris Gaines back today, it would be huge. I do. I think it would be like a throwback to the old times. Don't you think? Maybe. Because people are nuts now. You know, there's so many.

Nuts. Yeah. You can, there's so, it's polarized. And all of these people that there was a group of six people that had a little club because of the internet now there's now that six people are is you know 60,000 people a community right you've found these massive communities where it's like hey there used to be a club of 40 guys that like to talk about you know um the smurfs yeah you know I'm saying and they were silly and weird and they had to write letters and talk on the phone sometimes and they

didn't want to tell anybody had radio right now they're 600 thousand is a group of 600,000 strong They have a YouTube channel and meetings. And there's, you know, they have annual, you know, annual conventions. It's like, are we talking about spurs here? Do you have a pocketful of smirfs with you? You have a favorite smurf, pop a smurf, of course. It's like, this is insane. Is this a real thing?

Are you making this up? No, there's a group. There's a whole people that trade smurfs. They love them. I got to get out more. I know about the first. I did not know about the Smurfs. Yeah, that's another thing.

Furries, like you're just some weird old kid that nobody talks to. The next thing, you know, you're 100,000 man-strong group that's serious. We're having meetings. You're a meeting in a hotel ballroom and having a convention. Right. I want to be a cat. You know, and I'm serious. I think the internet, I mean, obviously it has perpetuated so many of these theories.

And I think when Gen Z sometimes gets a hold of things, they think they've discovered them for the first time. I have a couple of nephews that are in their early 20s. And they'll come to Sunday dinner sometimes and they'll say, did you hear this? And I'm like, oh, my love. Yeah, that's a really old conspiracy. When we were sitting there talking, I was thinking the whole time, did you see that there's like a, I don't know, it's a meme or something where it says we need to bring back bullying. you know and I always thought oh that's mean but then I see these people that like want to be a cat or they want to be a dog or they want to be some you know whatever an animal and I think you know

yeah yeah I think or at least bring back shame you know I would like to bring back shame and I would like to bring back dignity the people that have the freakouts on the airplanes do you have no shame yeah exactly like are you screaming and hollering and they're yeah it like you're an adult you do you have no dignity like what is wrong i i won't say you told me this but i have a family member that was like you know just one time just open up the back door and just push him out right see if it ever happens again it'll never happen you you have to know you're in the wrong when the entire aircraft starts clapping when the cops show up to take them away they're just like thank you would think god like you're

yourself you are so self-absorbed you're willing to throw a fit and have all of us that have the plane not be able to take off for 45 minutes to an hour a temper tantrum like a toddler right i mean it is literally embarrassing i get secondhand embarrassment for people so yeah i'm with you there let's bring back some shame and some dignity because i'm over it i am but it's you know how the internet it is people are kind of shameless on the internet and and they they get these ideas and they run with them you know be it you know furries or smurfs or conspiracy theories and i'm going to tell you i'm a little disturbed at how many young kids i see i young kids i 20 somethings that are down the rabbit hole on these conspiracy theories there are people that are truly convinced that garth brooks you know

the most famous male singer in the world is truly a serial killer and And the rumor starts to get worse and worse. They are willing to believe whatever they hear on the internet. If it is typed out or if someone makes a TikTok about it, they're believing it. And there are people of every generation, Gen X, millennials, Gen Z, boomers, they will believe anything. But when the younger generation finds out about Chris Gaines, it's like the gloves come off. It is game on. They are completely convinced that this guy is the most famous cowboy ever.

the most like broed up country boy ever and he's turned emo and kind of effeminate for a year in the 90s they went nuts so now the conspiracy theory starts to involve Chris Gaines and people start talking about all kinds of ideas like Garth Brooks created Chris Gaines because that was his killer alter ego and he was only Chris Gaines when he was killing people that was one theory and then there was another theory that he created Chris Gaines because he was testing out changing his look to see if he could become unrecognizable in order to go into hiding so he could continue killing people. I mean, the theories are literally all over the place. And then about six months ago, it culminates when someone makes a claim that they have a chart where exactly what you

were talking about with Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, they can line up tour dates and match tour dates where Garth Brooks is in this city and this city and this city on the same day, that someone goes missing or is murdered. So if Garth Brooks is in Detroit, on December 2nd, 1992, someone goes missing or is murdered in Detroit. Same thing, you know, Sacramento, Los Angeles, whatever. Lots of people go missing it every single day

in every city. All you gotta do is find somebody. It gets so much worse than this. This map, this map or this chart or this list, whatever it is, when I tell you I have been to the depths of hell looking for this thing, it doesn't exist. So I made my own.

Hold on. I made my own. I spent about an hour and a half making this list. I had AI pull me up all of Garth Brooks concert dates for the years, I think, 2013 to 2019 or something like that. And then I sat on the computer and I pulled up missing, murdered people, missing and murdered people from the exact dates that he was in those cities. And I will tell you about 50% of the time he is in a city where someone goes missing or murdered.

And the other 50% of the time, there is not a murder or someone that goes missing there. And you've got to remember, this is Chicago. This is Detroit. This is Los Angeles. Of course, someone's going missing or getting murdered on those days. It's, so here you go. If somebody wants to spend more time on it than I did, be my guest. But I'm telling you, there is no list.

There's no list. I have a question. Yes. How many dates did you line up? Okay. For what period? Was this just for the Chris Gaines? No, no.

No, I did. I did Garth Brooks. I did. I started in 2013 and I got kind of bored and ran out of time around 2020. And I will tell you, yes, July 12th and 13th in Chicago, Illinois, in 2013, a man named Wesley Parks went missing. There was a man named Eugene Johnson, who was 84 years old, found shot dead in his car in Chicago, Illinois on September 20th of 2013.

2014, two of his dates that pulled up in Los Angeles and Atlanta, nobody. But in Chicago again, on September 5th, there was a man from India named Brim Chinana that went missing and was later found murdered. So about 50% of the time something lines up and the other 50% of the time there's nothing. Well, I mean, you know, it's not a full-time gig, right? Like you get an urge. He's, you know, some, he's tired some days. He's too tired some days to go out and murder.

Sometimes there's just nobody to grab. You go out, you walk around. I got an hour to kill. And, you know, I didn't come across anybody. And you've got to realize it's going to take him. I don't know if you've ever been backstage at one of these big arenas. It is a maze of tunnels. It is a literal maze.

It takes an hour and a half to get out of one of those venues. You think it takes a long time going in the front door with your ticket. It takes twice as long getting in and out. You know, so he's got to have like maybe a disguise or an accomplice. You're assuming it's during the tour. I mean, maybe they show up a couple hours early and he says, hey, I'm taking off for a couple hours. He can't have to get out of an arena.

He just, he just gets a borrow somebody back then. It would have been taxis. I don't know when Uber started. But, you know, he says, hey, drive me. to the inner city and he walks through the park and if he comes across somebody and there's an opportunity you know he pops them or he you know grabbed somebody and throws him in a in one of the um you know one of the one of the one of the chests uh and keeps him tied up for a couple of days you know whatever he's going to do whatever serial killers do i don't know yeah you stuff to

to the bodies i don't know but it sounds totally plausible yeah it was um what i think is it'd be you know here's what's so funny this is how hilarious this this could be. You understand that if you sent me that list, if I had the time, which I don't. Yeah. But if you sent me the list and I made, I'll bet you if I spent the day making phone calls

of finding people that were on tour with him and you interviewed those people about this and you called some of these people that are missing and what were they like? Where were they? Right. And you wrote a whole book. Yeah, you could mesh it together so that it really sounded like there was an investigation going on and that there was a very real possibility that because you're going to get some disgruntled employee, some weirdo that's going to be like, listen, man, the guy's weird.

Oh, there are many times. Oh, you're talking about the Chris Gaines thing. You're talking about Garth, oh, yeah, listen, I was on that tour doing the lighting. Let me tell you something. He did disappear for a couple of hours. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can give people to say anything. Yeah. And then you throw them in the book and next, you talk to a detective, a couple of detectives on the case. They'll talk to you. Yeah. I've talked to homicide detectives and cold case file detectives.

They'll sit on the phone with you for 45 minutes. Oh, absolutely. And they'll be like, you know, we don't know. What you got to do, you got to bring up the Garth Brooks things toward the very end because sometimes they'll be like, oh, you're a nut job. And they'll hang out on you. You can't lead with Garth Brooks as a serial killer. No, no.

They're going to hang up the phone. You have to say, well, you know, you throw that idea in there at the very end. You may, you know, you may get some detective that says, listen, anything's possible. And you're like, oh, that's the quote. That's the quote. And then you find a roadie, you know, that was at the venue one time and saw something kind of suspicious. I mean, it takes nothing these days to get people to believe. Listen, you put that book out and you send that book to, oh, shoot, you just said to Tom Segora.

Yeah. You send that book to him and they'll be. like yeah look at this book this book just came out and they'll they'll be laughing about listen you sell how god knows how many copies you'd sell it could be it didn't have to be a big book it'd be a hundred pages doesn't matter you get listen doesn't matter i'd say yeah you write 30 35 000 words you can get 100 page that's a hundred page book yeah basically a pamphlet but yeah because the normal 300 page book is 90 000 words so if you write a little over 30 000 yeah if you want throw some photos in there.

Yeah. You've got a book. We get a picture of Garth Brooks. Half of Garth Brooks face. Half of Chris Gaines or John Wayne Gasey with the clown makeup. Yeah. Something.

You put that on the cover. It's over. Best seller. Best seller. And Tom Segura does jump on this. I mean, it's funny that you bring him up because when he starts hearing all of this, you know, this is really taken off. He goes on the podcast one day.

And he says, well, it's official. Garth Brooks has blocked me on Instagram. I saw that. I saw that. He said, I kept waiting. I kept waiting for it to happen. He's rolling. Him and his wife think it is the greatest thing ever.

And first off, I think it's weird that Garth Brooks has taken this seriously and is apparently mad about this. I think had he had a better sense of humor about it, it might have gone away a little quicker. I'd have gone on Tom Sagar's show. I would do. But he absolutely. absolutely refuses to address it.

In fact, this will kill you. You can look this up. There are multiple instances of people holding up signs at concerts. And the signs will say, we love you, Garth. And they've decorated the signs, and they're really trying to get the attention of the Jumbotron. Then if they do get on the Jumbotron, as soon as the cameras on them,

it dropped the sign, and it says, where are the bodies, G? And the Jumbotron immediately cuts away. So you've got to think about. that for a second. This has gotten so big that Garth Brooks has informed every Jumbotron operator in every arena and every venue that he goes to that if anyone holds up a sign that says, where are the bodies G? They are not to be shown on the Jumbo Tron. What's, you know, what's great about that is that if you write the book properly and interview people, you get to

tie in the fact that he's trying to kill that. He's trying to bury this. Cover it up. It's He's trying to cover it up. He's nervous. He's concerned. It's covered up. They've got him on his heels. He doesn't want anyone talking about it. He's going to start suing people. You only have to write to write a couple letters and you can say, listen, we reached out to him multiple times. He refuses to, like that makes you, that doesn't look good. Yep. Yeah. Oh, and it gets even worse because a few months ago, somebody digs up an old clip of Garth Brooks on a talk show. It looks like it's in the 90s, just by the way people dress and stuff. And it's like a like a, like a good. Good morning, Philadelphia, you know, type of talk show. And they're talking about Garth Brooks wanting to go into acting. And the talk show host says to Garth, you know, have you thought about it? Do you want to be in a Western? He's like, yeah. He's like, but I told the producers and the directors that have contacted me that if they ever want someone to be the bad guy, I'd love to be the bad guy. And the talk show host says, oh, no, no, no, no, you don't want to be the bad guy. You look like a good guy. You're a good guy. Everybody loves you. And Garth Brook responds, I guess.

but I'd rather kill somebody. I will send you... I'm surprised that's not on a loop somewhere. I will send you the clip. Oh, yeah, definitely. You've got to include the clip. It sends the internet into a spiral. I mean, you look like a good guy, you know?

Okay, I guess. I'd rather kill somebody. You've got Garth Brooks now saying on tape many years ago, I'd rather kill somebody. The people that are barely clinging to reality at this point just go off the end. they're gone. They're Thelma and Louise at this point shooting into the Grand Canyon.

And about six months ago, this thing gets so big on TikTok. I see a video, at least one a day. People talking about the fact they are convinced that Garth Brooks is a serial killer. And they're talking about this list, this map, this chart that doesn't exist. And so Tom and Christina, you know, they just keep piling on. They are loving this. And then they start talking about Tricia Yearwood, who, you know, is so famous in. her own right and you know do you think trisha knows do you think she's in on the deal do you think is she still married to her yes oh okay they've been married says 2005 um and tom sigura and christina you know they banter back and forth and they're just deadpan serious most of us realize

they're totally joking but some people aren't in on the joke they're like do you think she knows where he hides the bodies you know and then they discuss a scenario where like trisha comes into the room and garth is like bent over a body and she startles him you know and even looks up and he's got like blood running out of his house. I mean, they're just going off and people are taking notes. They are just eating this up. It is so obviously Tom and Christina trolling the hell out of Garth Brooks that there are people who just don't get the joke. It is insane. But then you've got to hold on to your hats and glasses because it gets worse. Every time I think this cannot get worse, it gets worse. Tom and Christina start talking about how everybody's pretty

convinced at this point in time that the Illuminati is probably real or there is some Hollywood cabal of, you know, evil people. I mean, with the P. Diddy thing coming out and all of that. So Tom and Christina start telling jokes as if the Hollywood cabal or the Illuminati, whoever you want to believe in, they have come up with this conspiracy theory that Garth Brooks is a serial killer because he really is and they're trying to cover it up and they think to themselves what's the best way to cover up this rumor that garth is a serial killer make it bigger make it bigger so now we've gone all the way around and we're back to the total beginning of it's a conspiracy theory to cover up a conspiracy theory it's insane it's the basic instinct we're in basic instinct she writes

about murdering her parents which is she murdered and she writes about murdering her boyfriend and then they're like, yeah, by writing about it. There you go. That is, that's your alibi. I would have to be crazy to write about actually killing somebody and then actually kill that person. There you go. And that's exactly what people think now that the Illuminati or this Hollywood cabal or whatever has grown the conspiracy theory to cover up the fact they're, they're protecting one of their own. It's got to be somebody needs to, I really, I'm seriously thinking about writing a book how do you get into how do i get it i don't have time for this you're like i actually do have a life but you know i just think that if you wrote it and sent it to tom sagora that he would

am i saying his name right sigora i think so that's how i say it so yeah um i think i think if i wrote it he would go they would go nuts for 45 minutes to an hour on one of their programs and it it it would be huge huge uh you know you do some tic talks you do a little bit of google advertising yeah no and never know it could be a bestseller um oh my god and then of course if all you have to do and then they do it then it jumps on a few other other people might start running with there's a new book that talks about this and of course the problem you know my and i don't have a problem like i can you could fluff 10 000 words of course but just based on our conversation you could fluff it but you need to interview people that

roadies that because really the roadies are the low men on the totem pole yeah i wonder who does his stuff and who you could contact that'd take a day of calling to get one or two of them you only one disgruntled guy i'm telling you oh yeah back in the day those roadies are i mean there are you know there's a lot of substances uh floating around in those in those circles and you could probably talk anybody into saying anything i need your i need that list i i will get i will I will get the list to you. I will get the list to you. I know a guy I could talk to about the list and see what he says.

I'm just saying. And I know I have a buddy who's a private investigator too. He could probably track down some people. He, you know, he's actually former. Well, he's a retired FBI agent. But if I pitch this to him, he'd be like, I could already see him going, what are you doing? Yeah. What are you doing?

What are you doing? What are you getting? What do you have your life's good? Why are you going to do this? Why? I'm just jumping on the bandwagon. I'd be like, Tom, his name is Tom Simons. I'd be like, Tom, I'm just jumping on the bandwagon.

I'm not, and he'd be like, come on, stop. Stop. Stop it. Come on, Tom. Let's find this guy. I'm calling this detective. I mean, you would have the actual only list, though, because I'm telling you, this list, this mythical list does not exist.

I have looked at, how many are on there? How many are on there? From 2000 and will, I asked AI to just, give the major concert dates. So it chose just the bigger cities. That AI just chose the bigger cities. So you've got like Los Angeles, Chicago, Atlanta, Tampa, Los Angeles, Nashville, Denver, Minneapolis. But I'm sure for every one of these major cities, you know, there's going to be smaller cities. I mean, Garth Brooks also goes to Provo, Utah. You know, he also goes to, you know, Fresno. He goes to smaller cities as well. So the list would be a lot more exhaustive than this. It just pulled up his

major concert dates for each year. So this, this list would have, I mean, how many shows do you think Garth Brooks has played in 30 years? I don't know, but if Garth Brooks, he's not going to be, he's going to be prolific if he's, if he's a serial killer. He's not going to do it half ass. He's going to go on. It's going to be a lot of people. It's going to be at least because I'm going to have to talk to just, I'd have to talk to some detectives. Yes. Yes. Yeah. He's got kill kits buried everywhere, all a Israel keys. He's got, you know, secret stashes in every city, in every park in every, yeah, he's got all the money. He's got all the connections. He is going to, if he is going to be a serial killer, he is going to be the best serial killer that we have

ever seen. Yeah. Yeah. And this goes on and on and on. And it's all cheeky and it's all funny and kind of crazy. And then almost like, you know, reality kind of imitating the fiction, the news breaks the first week of October that a lawsuit has been filed by a woman who has chosen to remain anonymous. Now, I will say Garth Brooks has since named her, which turned a lot of people off, because if she is a victim, you know, you shouldn't name victims that don't want to be named. She names herself Jane Roe in the lawsuit. And she is alleging that during 2019, she was sexually assaulted, harassed, and I don't know if you have to bleep that out or not. This is his makeup artist. So I found the actual complaint on the web. And I'm a certified paralegal,

so I know how to speak legal ease pretty well. The complaint is pretty long, 27 pages, and it says that this woman was hired in 1999 to do hair and makeup for Tricia Yearwood and that she continued to be Tricia's hair and makeup artists for decades. In 2017, she also starts doing Garth Brooks' hair and makeup. Now, I don't know how this happens

if you're Tricia Yearwood and Garth Brooks' makeup artist and hair artist, but she starts having financial problems. So Garth starts giving her more work. He starts hiring her more often. And she claims they get really, really close. And the more she works with Garth Brooks, the more friendly he becomes. And she's like standing over him doing his hair and makeup and she's being groped. He is claiming he will like reach up and grab her boobs.

And he's, you know, smacking her on the butt and things like that. She says one day in 2019, she goes to Garth Brooks house to style his hair and makeup and he comes out of the room, naked, and ready for action, shall we say, and that he was holding his readiness. Stop. Do you know how fast you were going? I'm going to have to write you a ticket to my new movie, The Naked Gun. Liam Neeson.

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and wants her to perform on him and that he specifically wants her to leave her glasses on while he finishes. Yeah. So the woman claims she was shocked. She was confused. She said, you know, I'm not doing this, but she needed the money. So she stayed for the gig and did his hair and makeup. She says later that same year in May of 2019, he asks her to go to Los Angeles with him for this Grammy tribute that he's attending. And she gets on the private plane, which is usually full of staff members, but she notices that day, it's just the two of them. They get to Los Angeles, they check into the hotel room, and as they do, this woman realizes that there's only one hotel room booked. So they go to the hotel room and she's putting away her things and Garth again appears in the doorway naked. And

I'm ashamed to say as I'm picturing this in my head, why does he have his cowboy hat on? Why does he have his cowboy hat on when he's naked in my head? I don't know. But this is very disturbing information and i'm picturing it you know this really nice hotel suite and he just appears naked in the doorway she claims that as he stood there he started flexing his muscles i don't think of garth brook and muscles in the same sentence yeah um his wife during this she apparently does not travel with him she is kind of a home body she only performs like once in a great while for like a really big event and it is normal apparently for garth brooks to go places by himself Okay. And, and this woman claims the lawsuit actually says, I actually want to read you the verbiage.

Tragically, her worst fears came true when seconds later, Garth was towering over her, his six foot, almost 300 pound frame, ready to pounce on Ms. Rowe, who was less than five feet and 100 pounds. As she began to panic, he grabbed her hands and pulled her into the next room and onto the bed where she could not escape his physical domination. now this is very colorful language especially for a lawsuit and you can easily picture this scenario in your head if this happened this is of course horrific this is where the story gets very unfunny she claims that she lays there on the bed he rapes her she was in pain she was traumatized and was even held upside down at one point and kind of humiliated the lawsuit goes on to detail I would say some of the most graphic details I have personally ever read in a legal document, much too graphic to say here, but she says she just kind of after it was over was expected to do her

job. And then the legal complaint goes on and lists other allegations like sexting, says he would change his clothes in front of her, expose himself to her. He would stare lasciviously. That's the word that is used in the complaint at her breasts and force her to open her shirt. it's really quite disturbing and if this happened Garth Brooks is a monster basically you know I this is where it gets really hard for me really difficult I did an episode on Marilyn Manson a month or so ago and his people came out of the woodwork

to call me every vile name in the book he has a lot of supporters and he has 11 accusers nine accusers names two accusers unnamed when somebody gets that many accusers I'm sorry when there's where there's smoke there's fire I just that's the way I believe it when there's one accuser it doesn't mean she's lying but it's definitely difficult more difficult for her I mean wouldn't you agree you know to come out against somebody like this so powerful and and so I don't know why she would do this I think she thought, according to her camp, she tried to get him into talks. And her camp thought they were

in settlement talks. He was going to pay her off. And then he went and preemptively filed a lawsuit against her, claiming to be the victim of blackmail. And he said, if she's going to try to blackmail me, I'm going to out her. So at this point, it really is like a he said, she said thing. And I don't know what to believe it's you got to you got to pick sides at this point it's one woman against one man and none of us were there and who knows what to believe i mean that's where it's at right now so very unfuny to very very sad and scary you know um other you know it would be different i guess if other people came forward but like you said yeah yeah maryland to be the lone accuser i cannot imagine what that would feel like to accuse any man or any woman but someone as powerful as

garth brooks well i think that um that kind of behavior isn't it you know isn't something that it's a one and done like oh it was a one off never happened again never happened since typically behavior like that is is you know lifelong it's something you've been you know so it's it's something that you've been exhibiting for a long period of time. So there have to be other, if it's true, then to me, other people would come, come forward and say, wow, you know, he would never, you know, I was never raped, but he did do this or one time he did come out when he saw that I wasn't interested. I told him if it happened again, I would minch, I would say something to his wife.

He never did it again. Or, you know, like if suddenly multiple women started saying, yeah, listen, this has happened before. Right, right. with me, but I was too scared to say anything, then it's like, okay, but if it's one person comes out and like nobody else is backing her out, then it's, it's harder to believe. It is. It is. And she has a lot of details. She even tells a story about how they were in the studio one day, headed to an event. And she noticed that he had grabbed her phone when it was

unlocked and he had deleted her entire text thread with him. So she's got some details. She also talks about a time where Garth called her and said, you know, I think you think I'm upset with you. I would never be upset with you. And then he tells her, he gives her this little analogy. And he goes, look at it this way. Me and you broke into a jewelry store. And the second we broke the door and the glass broke, we looked at each other and we said, this isn't right. But we had already broken the glass door. And so I think what me and you do at this point is we just run out and hope that nobody ever finds out. And we just love one another and be friends. Is that okay with you? So she has this story where he comes up with this jewelry store break-in analogy and tries to compare it to, yes, they did a bad thing.

But if nobody ever finds out, then who's the wiser? Nobody gets hurt. Well, I mean, it's pretty convenient that she doesn't have the text thread. It is. It is. I agree with you on that. And you'd think at some point in time, she would have, you know, recorded something or tried to get something on tape. And the other thing that makes it a little tough for me is that she did continue to work for him. Now, she claims she has financial problems and we all know when people are desperate for money, they'll do what they have to do to get by. So I don't want to fault her too heavily on that. But she finally did end up quitting in 2021 and she moved to Mississippi and that's when she hired attorneys.

And they go into these settlement talks. And then on September 13th of this year, Garth Brooks just preemptively files this lawsuit. he uses a thing in the law called a declaratory judgment act where he calls himself the victim of attempted extortion and in the woman's prayer for relief which is the part of the legal complaint where the plaintiff asks the judge for damages monetary damages the woman says she wants punitive damages monetary damages and attorney's fees but she doesn't name a specific amount. And I find that interesting as well, because normally in things like this, you will see that someone's looking for a lot of money. And I don't know that she is. Maybe she wants to tell

her story. But Garth Brooks puts out a statement and says, for the last two months, I've been hassled to no ends with threats, lies tragic tales of what my future will look like if I don't write a check for millions of dollars. And then he goes on to say that hush money, no matter how much or how little is still hush money. And in order for him to pay that hush money, it would mean he was admitting to acts that he did not commit. And he said he was not going to pay anybody because he hasn't done anything wrong. So I don't know. I don't know what to think. I really don't. So yeah, it's a, it's a really tough one. The press got wind of it. And I guess Garth Brooks has this series on Facebook where he talks live to his audience. And he tells them that his wife

wants to move to Ireland. She fell in love with Ireland while they were touring the country. And so his audience immediately goes to, they're fleeing the country to move to Ireland because of these accusations against him when apparently he said, no, we've been thinking of moving to Ireland for a while or getting a house in Ireland for a while. Of course you can say that. Yeah, yeah, I just, I just don't, I've looked into this for weeks now and I just really don't know what to believe. If this really happened to this woman, that is absolutely horrific. Absolutely. terrible. If she's making it up, that's terrible for him. And I just, I don't know what to think right now. I tend to want to believe accusers. Just my gut, my woman brain tends to want to believe

other women. But we've seen a lot of false accusations as well. And if no one else comes forward and she doesn't have any evidence, it's going to make it very difficult for her. But I still have to wonder, why would she do it then? You know, I don't know. Now. Now? What about now? Whenever it hits you, wherever you are, grab an O. Henry bar to satisfy your hunger.

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oh yeah yeah but i also think it's important to point out that sandy garth brooke's first wife is very supportive of him and there are these rumors that go around all the time that Garth Brooks cheated on Sandy with Tricia Yearwood, you know, that he started his affair with Tricia Yearwood before he divorced Sandy. Sandy herself has never said that. She is actually one of his biggest fans. Does she know where her bread is buttered? Of course. But, you know, she has never had a bad word to say about him. So that also, I don't know, I don't know. She's in on it. She's also in on the serial killer thing. They're a trio of serial killers. You got Garth Brooks, Trisha Yearwood, and his first wife, Sandy, who was like a Grammy

award-winning songwriter. I just, I don't know what to think at this point. The whole thing is just, you cannot make stuff like this up. When something takes on a life of its own on the internet, it is, it's out of our hands. Have there been articles about this? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

If you Google is Garth Brooks, a serial killer, you'll get articles, I think, from Vice, CBS News picked up on it. It is everywhere. It is absolutely everywhere. And then, of course, you want to really get into it. You go on Reddit because it is, Reddit is where I go digging when I want to find the stuff that's not in the mainstream. And then there's other places I don't want to mention that I go digging. And I'm telling you the map and the chart does not exist. I mean, if it does, it's somewhere that I don't want to go to find it.

But it's definitely not on TikTok or anywhere mainstream like that. So, but there are news. Yeah, the mainstream media has picked up on this story, which is just wild. This started out as a joke on a podcast. We got to track down, we got to track down some roadies. We have, you need to write this book. Yeah. You've got to write this book.

This could be good. I mean, it just, this is a pop culture moment. I think this is something that will be studied later on. as proof of how wild the internet is you know in these i mean i think in the future they will look back uh you know still 20 years after everybody has it 30 years after everybody has it this is still the early onset of the internet and i think this is going to be an example of just how it really was the wild west and anything that you said on the internet quickly could turn into fact and it's terrifying hey if you guys like the video do me a favor hit the subscribe button hit the bell so get

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