Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - True Crime Creators Are Getting BANNED! Here’s Why (Funny Stories)

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

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It's like all the shit that I've talked about on my show, like, I could have violated thousands of policies. I'm daily violating something. Yeah. So the, the, um, all right. So, so, uh, I'm trying to think here. That's like that line alone is going to get me thrown off you, too. You know, what are we talking about? The monetization?

I had a, I had a prepper on yesterday. One of these survivalists guys He was on season one of alone He's called the Angry American And the conversation was going really well Except for every few minutes He would talk about the illegal aliens And how the army was going to bring them in

And they were going to shoot all the real Americans You had me right up to Oh man Yeah Yeah. So we've got a ticker. Our solution, I actually hired a professional production company for the show. All right. I got tired of it. I'm like, okay. And what the solution they've come up with is every time the guy says something questionable, a ticker runs across the screen saying his views are not my views. And hopefully that's going to not get me demonetized. Yeah. You hear that? That was my. response

hmm hmm what so Wade what is going on with the the the the monetization

thing the fuck if I know some people are blaming me kind of because of something you told me on the last show

that we did because I was like you said you could use B-roll footage in shorts uh oh you can

that's like you can you might use money but you can do it I mean hell I can rob a bank tomorrow

I mean, I might go to jail for it. I don't know if that's why they're getting their channels taken down. That's not it. Too many people use the B-roll shit, man. That ain't it. But a lot of people, what I've seen them do is they take other people's content and they'll use that. But the only way they break it up is they might just go on there and talk for a second.

Like, there's this one guy named Stacks, and he will take somebody's whole entire episode, play it, and just pop in and me, like, you see what this line motherfucker just. said listen to him bro and then play it and then like let it go for 10 minutes do you hear that lying motherfucker listen to what he says next play a two out play a two hour video of sammy the bull interviewing someone yeah yeah that's what those guys do it okay you should be demonetized at that point yeah really i mean what they should do is so so if anybody's watching doesn't understand there's been several several um channels that have been just have been demonetized completely across the board

everything on their platform has been demonetized. So these are guys that have been on the air, whatever on the air. This is on the air, right? I'm going to say that anyway. So they've been posting videos for two or three years. They've got hundreds of videos up. They've been monetized. They're making money.

And then suddenly they get an email from YouTube saying, hey, your channel has been deemed to be using other people's content and we're demonetizing your entire channel. And it's irrevocable. It's not changing. Now, they, of course, they try and do a, they ask for, you know, they try and dispute it. You know, they sent, you can send in a dispute explaining like, that doesn't make sense, like what I'm doing. They try and explain it and they come back and say, yeah, we've reviewed it, your dispute, and we're going with our original no, you're demonetized. And I've been down that route before and Let me tell you that you can claim it as much as you want. Usually it takes about 45 minutes for them to come back with a response saying,

hey, no, we've reviewed it. You're done. And then if you're part of the YouTube creators program, which I was at that point in time, you actually talk to a human being and they don't give a damn either. You're done. That's what happens. Well, I'm pretty sure you were posting some new. Okay, I was.

Yes, I was. But that's still, you still get the same game response. Well, I would think. that you would get what my thought would be it would at least come back and say take the video down like you have a problem with this video take that video down send a letter saying hey bro we have a problem with this video you post anything like this again we'll demonetize you okay but this was nothing they got no they got no warning at all and there was no you know there was no way to you know rebut it and get it overturned speak

with anyone anything well what kind of content of they got i mean matt said something about conspiracy theories and all that stuff. I mean, well, you're getting hit pretty hard there. Well, no, wait. One was, so two of them were guys that were that were doing, like, mob-related stuff. Jeff Nadeu was one, and he's got a pretty sizable channel. I think he was at, like, 62, 65,000 subs somewhere in that neighborhood. And that's pretty much all he does.

He'll throw in an interview every now and then. And then another guy who had a smaller channel, his name was Loomis. and they do kind of the same stuff, but they'll do like movie reviews, but they just talk about it. And like, he had just got it, monetized.

So I, and none of them are really saying like, I mean, they're saying what YouTube's telling them, but it's so vague, it can be anything. Right. It's like,

you violated this policy, and I'm just like, all the shit that I've talked about on my show, like I could have violated thousands of policies. I mean, same with you guys. We've got a lot of the same people over there. I'm daily violating something.

Yeah. So the, the um all right so so uh i'm trying to think here i just threw me on that's like that line alone's going to get me thrown off you too well you know okay oh so wait here's i understand this you know you know what's what is her name um you know who pearl is pearl mini pearl yeah exactly pearl she's uh like a conservative female that talks about conservative issues and she's got like red hair she's she was demonetized recently well you've got your answer for her she's freaking conservative they frown on that shit to begin with okay but listen here's the thing like

let's say so i've listened to her a lot right like i like her and about two or three weeks ago and she always says certain things that i'm like yeah i like you know i i kind of agree with that and i agree with it and but about two three weeks ago before it was about a week ago she got demonetized right About two, three weeks before that, some of her newer stuff was coming out. And I genuinely, there were stuff she was saying. I was like, ooh, oh, Pearl. Like, even if you believe that, I don't say it. Keep your mouth shut.

Like, what was one of the things she said was, I hesitate to say it. I was about to say, I don't know if I was beat it right now. She was adamant. She, you know, she's always saying stuff like, you know, when women are like, oh, men are horrible. And she would say like, well, I don't understand why you say that. like men built the world that you live in. Okay, the Jordan Peterson line, right. Yeah, and she goes on and on.

She really runs with that. Well, about two, three weeks ago, she added, you know, if you really think about it, men are better than women in every single category. And then she starts naming the categories. And she really, really makes the argument. And I thought, oh, and I was watching this one. And I was like, oh, Pearl. I mean, even if you believe it, sweetie.

Like, even if you're really, that you're really, you know, maybe you could say, say, well, you know, men are better than women in certain aspects and women are better than men in certain respects. You know, women are better caregivers. They're better nurturers that are better in support. You know, there are certain things women are better at than men. So we have our roles, let's say. She didn't do that.

She didn't go that way. And then she went bye by, bye. Yeah. And here's the thing. It's not like I saw it once. Then I saw her on another show. Same type of stuff. And then two days later, I see her like three.

times and I thought, well, she's going, she's running with this on everybody's platform. And then probably within a week later, I see a post from her saying, like, YouTube demonetized me for no reason. I thought, oh, I feel like there is a reason. We know a reason. I feel like you, you know. See, that makes me scared. Wait's like that makes me scared.

Well, it's not even the money because I don't, it's not like I make a ton from this shit, but it's the time and the effort that I put in. There's a lot of time, but yeah, I mean, because I do all my money and stuff. Yeah, I know you do. I mean, nobody cared. Wade doesn't care about me at all. He immediately put himself like, it's not about the money. What?

Well, no, I'm just saying everybody's got reasons they would be ticked off. You would be ticked off because you're out of the money. Me, it's like, obviously, if I made money, I would be ticked off about it. But right now, it's the time and effort I put into all this shit for, you know, two plus years that it would get. And that's not that it's going away. It's still going to be there, but, like, I had a guy on not too long ago, and this just goes back to I've got no idea how they censor stuff. I don't think we set a cuss word in the whole entire thing, and it was all about how he went to Columbia, South America, and lived with the lady that he, I think he knew the lady. It's been a minute since I actually done it, but I think he knew her.

It was basically about how they were funneling money back to the U.S. from gold, like mining gold. over there. And he broke down the process. So, interesting. Had really had it, you know, told him the show before, and he wrote a book about it. A friend of mine introduced us because she was kind of telling him, you know, it went through the cartels, it was doing drugs.

It was a way for them to launder money. Right. And they blocked it. Like they said, it wasn't able to be monetized. And I'm just like, I don't get that, but then, you know, I drop an episode on John Wayne Gasey. And, you know, he done absolutely nothing nice, his entire life for not

one second, including from when he was a kid on up. Making people sandwiches. And that's okay. And groping them to the next. And that one went through in a day. I figured it wasn't even going to get monetized. And when I hit the button the next day, I woke up and it was good to go. But you see, that's the thing with, and what you're touching upon is a lot of the

problem when people are doing cybersecurity or cyber crime episodes. So when you start talking about, for example, money laundering, Are you giving a blueprint for some idiot that has no clue what the hell he's doing? Is it instructional? They don't want things that are instructional. Okay. That makes a little sense. Well, I mean, you didn't really give a blue print.

I do that all the time, too. I was about to say, yours went good. Yeah. I had a blast cutting up short for your episode. They were good, man. They were good. I'm still going to Jim Carrey one I loved. The cable guy.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Like I said, yours went through, monetized, no problem. And I walk through step by step how the shit's done. Yeah. I still don't get that. Do you guys ever get something that you put out and then it's monetized and two days later, they suddenly make it, you know, limited monetization or?

I've had that. I have that happen a lot. Yeah. The only thing it's ever happened to me has been, you know, I was waging more with these guys on Telegram. one of them made a rap disc video. I put it up. It got some pretty good attraction. And within 24 hours, it's demonetized.

So, yeah. Did you change the title or anything on it or did not. Did not. It started out monetized. And like I said, within 24, it's not. And the only thing I took, I took their track, which I mean, they're not claiming copyright anyway, took their track and made a little dance video to it. And that was it.

two and a half minutes of that and there you go weird yeah i had a video that i put up i think it was one of them that me and ignacio done on a serial killer and i didn't even i don't think i gave it a title when i uploaded it from da Vinci because that's where i'll do all my editing and i can just upload it straight to youtube and it was good to go and so i'm like all right well i'm post it sunday sunday morning i went in i gave it a title and everything and as soon as i posted it went to limited monetization as soon as I might as well be it's demonetized yeah that's what I always consider like I've never had one completely be non-monetized but the limited monetization the difference is you might make $400 on a fully monetized video and then if it becomes limited

you made 60 bucks I mean it's that dramatic what if like on that particular one it took about six days maybe close to a week but they actually did monetize it do you get back paid for all the views you got. No. No, because the advertisers are different. Right. Well, and by then, most people who's going to watch it, have already watched it because this is your show drop day. You can't go ask, ask them to watch it again. Yeah. Hey, would you mind watching that again for me? This is, I know this is weird. It's better the second go round. It's right. It really is. I genuinely don't think that these guys care whether I make a dime. Right. Yeah, wasn't that great to begin. Look at the analytics, Matt. I really didn't even watch the whole thing.

That was like 20 minutes of your two-hour video out of guilt. It's like, that's why I just send Matt shorts. I feel he can get through 60 seconds. I can get through 60 seconds. Exactly. Listen, the shorts. So when I say I use B-roll, like I'll use B-roll, but I'm only using a couple seconds here, a couple seconds here.

And I'm dramatically changing the image. I'm taking, you know, I'm taking a horizontal image. and I'm only using one third of it, which is the vertical, right? And I put a filter on it. So I'm changing it to like bad, there's a filter, there are filters in Final Cut Pro,

they'll be called like bad TV or they'll be called, you know, projector or whatever. You throw film and it makes it. Make it grainy. Yeah, yeah. So I'll do that. And sometimes I even,

a lot of times I'll play with the, you know, the saturation of the colors and just to try and match it up. And then sometimes I'll just do the color match. So it changes it. So I've altered that, those images dramatically. So that I'm perfectly fine with. The reason I say that is that my kind of like go-to YouTube guy is a guy named Julian Dory.

And he runs a channel called, well, actually it's called Julian Dory. He changed it. He started it. It was called TrendaFinder or something like that. Okay. But he, was that what it was called? TrendaFindor. Fire.

Trenda finder. Trenda finder. I really don't know why. I think he made up a word and thought it was going to be cute. Then he started realizing what happens with a lot of people is they put up their stuff. They'll come up with like a cool channel name. And then they start to realize after a year or so, they go, you know, people aren't really searching the channel name.

They're searching my name. And they start to realize that they're branding themselves and they're putting another name on it. And that people are really interested in. and invested in them and not the name of the channel right and if they left the channel would basically die so that's what happened with julian is after about a couple a year and a half or so he was like yeah i'm just going to put jule my name on it and brand myself which is what he did then he talked danny jones who runs concrete into doing the same thing and uh i had already done that because like as usual i'm typically ahead of the curb um but i did the same thing i started with you know inside true

crime. And then after about six months, I went, you know what? Let me put Matt Cox slash inside true crime. Right. Right. Because a lot of people is going to search your name. So I don't throw your show up there. And I noticed it. Like I noticed that if you look like who people are searching, you know, Matt Cox, Matthew Cox, Cox, Cox, Cox, uh, you know, Con, uh, you know, it's like, but nobody, almost nobody's putting in, you know, they might put in Cox true crime, but almost nobody was putting in inside true crime. Right. And I thought, I already got it on a bunch of stuff. Keep that.

So, yeah, so that was one thing. So basically we didn't solve anything. We weren't going to anyway. I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing. So I went to, oh, that's what it was. I went to Julian and said, Julian, listen, I'm freaking out. I said, this is what Wade said. And I sent him everything.

And I said, Wade said this, Wade said that. And he came back. And it took him like a day or two because he's busy. and I don't feel like I'm that high on his priorities. So after a day or two, he came back and I got the response, what is this? I said, okay, I said it again. And then he was like, who is this? No, no, he knows why he.

So would that be fucked up? You pour your heart out and he's like, Jimmy? So anyway, yeah, so that's what I sent it to him. And he goes, let me look at these videos. And then he looked at the videos that you had sent me. And so he came back like an hour or two later. And he goes, you know, can you talk? And I was like, yeah.

So he got on the phone. I was like, hey, you said, look, I looked at that stuff. And here's what they're doing. The problem is these guys are running really long clips of movies. They're not filtering it. They're not altering it. They're not. And it's just too long.

And it's like video after video. And they're talking about mob movies and they're showing a five minute clip of the mob movie. Right. And so he was explaining, he said, you're using clips four seconds, six seconds, two seconds. You're altering it dramatically. You're not using the audio. I have used audio maybe three times. And even then, it's three or four seconds.

It's nothing. Right. So, you know, like on the, is it Al Pacino? No, it's De Niro. I use like the De Niro thing, the last section where he's yelling at Henry Hill. You know, what's so funny about me? What's the like I played that? But I altered it so dramatically.

The entire scene, if it's two minutes, I condensed it down to about 12 seconds. Okay. Recut it, changed everything. And I told me, he's like, yeah,

Matt, once again, he said, that's not enough. Like, that's one little section. That's not, these are shorts.

It's, so he went over the whole thing, and he said, stop doing it. And I said, okay, well, listen,

the other day, I took a video of Joey Marlino's, a podcast on Joey Marlino and recut that entire thing, and I put that up, and it was a short, so that should be okay. He goes,

what the fuck are you doing? I was like, what and he's like you can't do that just don't do that don't do that don't do that just take that down and I don't know it's okay I did take it down he's delete it so I deleted it and he's like don't don't bro don't do that he said that that is an issue because I see people lose their channels for taking other people's content turning it into shorts turning it into stuff he said altering it slightly thinking they're fine isn't monetizing it he is he said look it's it's not that it the the Marlino and those guys are

upset and they don't even have to do anything. It's YouTube noticing it and if it's a trend, then they just one day say, we don't like that you're doing that and they take it down. Well, all those guys and that mob stuff were redoing or resharing clips from

the skinny is what the show is called. And like, I'm like, I don't think he's, I know he's not asking them to do it. He doesn't need to ask him to do it, but they're doing it. And it's free advertising for him and then they're getting penalized for. Right. Right. Well, I have a feeling if you asked Marlino, if he could do, you could have anything of his for free. That's not in his character. I've read some stuff. People have sent me some things.

You know who he just interviewed? Yeah, Rick Flair. Yeah, I'm really wanting to watch. I like his podcast anyway. I actually do enjoy it. He tells good stories. But I really want to watch this Rick Flair podcast. That would be nice. Yeah. It's going to be, I'm going to enjoy it. Neither one of them. He's like, I don't like Rick Blair.

I haven't heard. I don't know one person that's had a positive experience with Joey Marlino. Not one. Oh, wow. I don't know anybody going to say solid guy. No, that's not true. That's the only solid. Only thing they say is stand up guy.

Yeah. Really is. And he is a true 100% mob. which once again it's not it's not a selling point for me bro you know

like Joey if you're watching this I'm a big fan by the way yeah yeah you didn't get Matt on your show that'll be our barn burner right there I just somebody told me the other in the comments somebody told me

they said the mob code if a if a citizen or if a citizen witnesses you committing a crime, it's okay to murder that citizen. And it said, but if one of your criminal co-defendants, you know, cooperates against you, it's unacceptable.

And I, but the way they put it, it was like, they did it much better than me. And I thought, wow. That is a great summation of, how deeply disturbed that code really is. And depending on how much they're going to censor some of these guys, there's two guys getting out at, well,

one guy's just got out or he's getting out. And another guy is going to get out within the next year or so. And you may or may not have heard they're called the Gemini Twins. No. There was a guy named Roy DeMayo who had a club called the Gemini Lounge. No, no, no. They were mobsters. Roy DeMayo was one.

he was like a very, very brutal guy. I think that the number of bodies that they said went down in the bottom of that club and didn't make it back up was in the hundreds. And the two brothers that helped him do it were called the Gemini twins. And one of them, he either just got out or he's getting out like within a few weeks. And he's already said that he's starting to podcast and going to talk because he didn't, he didn't give anybody up. He'd done, I don't know how many years he done, but it was a lot because it was a lot of

prerequisite, by the way. What is that? It's not a prerequisite that you don't give anybody up. I gave everybody up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm making a go of it. I'm still trying to tell on people. Yeah, I want a probation.

If you got something you want me to tell, just let me know. So, Matt, I got a question for this. Now, somebody tagged me and actually sent me this the other day, and it was like, you know this guy? And it was a guy, he's actually from Charleston, and he runs a podcast, a decent amount of followers, he's got 154,000 followers. and he told my story using clips from Ian Vick's TikTok

every clip that Ian put up which was like eight or nine I don't know if he used every single one of them the whole video is like 15 minutes but it's like he'll play me talking from Ian's podcast but it's from the TikToks I know because he puts the captions on it's not from his YouTube

it's me talking and then he interjects gives his two cents and then kind of goes to the next one. And I commented on, I'm like, bro, you're from Charleston. Like, you could have just interviewed me. You didn't have to steal another guy's shit. But, right, you know, I mean, I don't know how that would work because he didn't take from YouTube. He took from TikTok.

You know, I'll bet. I'll bet you could complain about that and get something done. Probably. You probably, it's probably, it's worked, listen, it's probably working to your advantage. Well, no, because he hasn't got my show tag

in there anywhere. Yeah, that's, yeah, that's jerky. Like, like, you could at least throw my channel in there. I mean, yeah, dude, you got to think of it, man. You're in Charleston. He's in Charleston. He could have picked up the phone. He could look up contact information. Anything else. The son of the bitch didn't. Does he have any subscribers? Yeah, he's got like 157,000. Report his ass. I'm saying, contact him and say, hey, bro, you're running my TikTok. Why don't you just interview me? Yeah. And then if he doesn't, report is a ass. Yeah.

Or you do the mob thing. You tell him, say, I know a couple of guys that'll throw you in the trunk of a car, drive you around for 30 minutes before we even have a conversation. Or do his show and then report his ass. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. So, so. Favorite word. You know, I have something else, I have to say, just so that anybody who's made it this long,

which is very few people, that I, about a year and a half, ago, I had, have you guys ever had anybody that have contact you, like people that watch the show that contact you and said, hey, do you mind if I run a TikTok channel for you? I noticed you don't have Instagram. I'll run the Instagram for you. And yeah? No, I have not. I wish that wanted to start up discords, I wanted to do the shorts, all that. Yeah. So what happened with it? I told them no. Oh, well, I don't. I typically wish I had. No, you know, what happens is they have good intentions, just a 19 year old kid. He watches all my stuff.

And this has happened three or four different times. Okay. So, you know, they contact me. They say, man, I love your stuff. And then sometimes they'll send me a short or two. Like, I could start an Instagram for you or I could run your Instagram. I noticed you haven't posted in a while or I could do a TikTok. And I did.

I had one kid started TikTok. He really did great. Ran it up. It got to be, got to be about 125,000 followers on TikTok. And then he just kind of disappeared, you know, and then, I mean, you know, we went back and forth few times. He disappeared for a few weeks, came back for a week, disappeared again, came back for a month, disappeared again, then eventually just went away. And then he, like, wouldn't respond to my text, and I finally sent him some text saying, hey, bro, at least give me the contact information.

And then he just, boop, like, that just showed up. So it was like, okay, I get it. And you're 19 years old. I understand. All you have to do is say, listen, man, I'm just too busy. It was too much work, and I apologize. No problem. You ran it up to 125. So that one, I think we ended up take, oh, no, I know what happened. Eventually, too, he got it banned. So then for 10 days, then they put it back up, then it was fine again, and then he posted something else, and then it just banned it. Now, what banned you from TikTok?

A lot of my content where we're cussing, we're talking. You know, he wasn't beeping out like the names of drugs. If you say specific drugs over and over and over again, it's got a problem with that. If you say things about talk about violence, you know, any of the mob guys when they're talking about whacking somebody and this and that,

then I always go, I just start, from now on I just beep it. I just believe it out. That goes, that's not working on my content right there. Yeah. So,

porn stars, there's not a lot of left to be desired. I know. All of your interests. So, listen, Jess is like, you know,

Wade's, in a way, she's, I've been, I've watched a few of his stuff. She's like, he knows a lot about the mob. I mean,

like, everything. And I'm like, right? Well, he really likes it. She's like, it's a little bit of I mean, and I went, why? And she said, I mean, it's like he knows everything. She said, he's not a mobster. I'm like, no, he's like a welder or something. And she's like, right, I don't understand. And I go, he's fascinated by it. That's what's right? I said, you can tell me everything about alligators. And she's like, well, I mean, they're alligators. They're amazing. And so, I was like, okay, well, that's the same thing. I think I commented on a picture she had the other day where she's like standing on an alligator.

And I'm like, oh, wow, that's an alligator you're standing on me. I'm not sure if you knew that or not. She, listen, so we have, you know, do you ever have date night? Yeah. So we have a whole day, which I still haven't managed to be able to do the whole day. Like I always plan something. And she's like, no, it's fine. It's fine.

No, it's fine. And I'm like, it doesn't feel fun. It's fine. You go ahead. I'm just going to sit upstairs and watch and look on TikTok. And you just let me know when you're available. Okay. So the other day, we had a day.

And she said, well, we're going to do whatever I want. I said, of course, baby, of course. She said, and she said anything. And I said, yeah, of course. And she said, I want to go alligator hunting. Oh, wow. I said, I'm actually embarrassed that I didn't think of that. That's the guy's, I've wanted to do that forever.

Like, bro, we went on an airboat for like four hours hunting alligators. And I mean, in, and this is at night. They do it at night in Okeechobee in the swamp. Listen, it was pretty, it was kind of cool for about 30, 45 minutes. It was four hours, bro. And then when they caught, they only caught one, which they were, she was furious about. And two, it was only 11 feet. 11 feet and we listen i can anyway that's what i'm that's what i'm dealing with

wonder what the percentages are people's last words that were i want to go alligator exactly if you fell off the boat you'd never you'd never make it out there are so many alligators you wouldn't know where you are because there are these weeds that grow you know it's a swamp with weeds that are they're 10 feet high you would never know where you were I mean, unless you could navigate using the stars and you're not going to believe that, believe this, but I'm not really an outdoorsy person. I would have never thought that. I'll never find it. I couldn't tell you which way anything was.

And it doesn't matter. You wouldn't make it 30 minutes. There's so many fucking alligators out there. Oh, yeah. But, okay, let me. A lot of people problems are probably solved out there in those swamps, I would imagine. Yeah, yeah. So, but I digressed.

So anyway, I've had several people help me with. with um this is her she knows i'm so she's talking about her she knows it okay so um so i've had several guys do it on tic talk and then the next guy that came out also guy was great ran the channel up to a hundred and like 17 18 thousand followers was doing great and then his problem was his real job is he's a real estate agent and he just got tired of guy i'm not tired i'm sorry he got really busy with real estate and then so we took it over and we started posting we're doing great okay and then we find out or then jelly smack do you guys know who jelly smack is yes i've seen that someplace okay jelly smack came in and they said look we want to take over your your

channel and we said great so we gave them the log in and everything they're going to take it over and they're going to monetize it and they come back and they go this channel was started in canada I was like, yeah, the guy lived in Canada. And they were like, no, we can't monetize it because it was starting in Canada because, you know, they're practically communist. And so they wouldn't do it. Fucking Trudeau. And so now we had to start over.

So I started another one over. Anyway, put that aside. So. But I had another guy contact me and also did, wanted to do a clip shot. channel. That guy started. He went strong for about three months, ran the channel up to like 3,500, 3,600, yeah, like 3,600 subscribers.

And then he kind of disappeared. And then he came back and then he disappeared and then he came back. And then I said, just give me the login information, everything. So he just gave me the login information. And I didn't post anything and it kind of went dormant for about a year. And then I just had a guy contact me the other day and said, look, man, I'll pick it up. I'll run with it. it. And now he's running with it. And he seems pretty solid. Like, like, the reason I say he's

pretty solid is that one, he has a degree in film. He's not working in film, which bothers him. He's like, I want to work in film. But, you know, I'm married. I have bills. And I'd like to make a go of editing. But I have no experience. You know, I have no way other than my degree. Like, he's got a degree, got a job, a regular job that started paying enough and kind of became complacent. And now he's been doing that for a while. Now he's starting to realize I'm going to be stuck in this job. Right. So I'm working with him and he's been cutting these things up left and right, left and right,

left and right, left and right. And so we just started posting. And our formula is take the best episode of the week. And he's going to cut it up into three or four episodes or little 10, 15, 20 minute clips and we're posting those clips and I've kind of revamped what the channel looks like and we've been posting for about I don't know about a week okay but I you know it I think and what I'm going to do is I'm going to start pushing it so I'm going to start pushing people to my normal subscribers like hey look you know if this the content's too long I have a clips

channel that's just the best clips that we have the best stories please go to the clip channel And I also took the Clips Channel little icon, you know, and I raise, I don't know, is that what you call it, like the round picture, profile photo, whatever? Logo or whatever, yeah. So I raise it up as high as you can. So my channel, my main channel logo is here and then just below it pretty much. There might be a band between the two is the Clips Channel. And I've got like 150 new subscribers in the last two or three days, which isn't, you know, for a channel that's. it's not bad like it literally tomorrow i would say it's going to have 4,000 subscribers so i'm

thrilled nice and we just have to keep doing it what all these numbers that you're spitting out of these guys are starting these channels and getting 100 and some odd thousand subscribers makes me want to drink i i mean well listen as soon as we take it over nothing like we're talking a few a day like it's it's it even though i feel like my stuff is i i i feel like my stuff is i i feel like, you know, the problem is I just have really good taste and most people just don't. And I think they don't appreciate

if my wife is Jeff just was here, she'd be like, it's amazing how you can take something like that and turn it to give me to go compliments to you. No one's watching my videos. And it's because they aren't doing it. They're not doing what they need to. Yeah. So if anybody's

out there wants to do something for me, I'll treat you to like a trip to New York and I'll meet you if you, introduce you to a few guys we'll have a good time. He can run my channel because it's hard to do all of this. I told you, I got this point. I'm just paying somebody to do it now. Well, I mean, you're, yeah, but, you know, we're not all ballers.

I'm not a, look at this ridiculous hat. I'm not a baller. So is it Randy Quaid? Randy Quaid. Okay, I got to look up Randy Quaid. Yeah, Randy Quaid. And of course, Shabon. Dennis Quaid.

Exactly. The Quaid boys are all right. So, you know, that he is just off his rocker, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. I seen Chevy posted a picture with him not too long ago. Oh, really? Yeah, met up with him somewhere. Hell, he fell off a stage today somewhere. Chebby did. Oh, geez. Yeah.

Vacation. Yeah. You need to watch that tonight. If you've not watched it this year, you need to get it in. You know, one of my favorite movies he was in was the bank. robbery movie with Bill Murray. Quick change. Oh, that was good. I love that. I think that, that plot,

and I don't want to, I don't want to plan anything out for anyone, but it seems like that movie, the way they did it, if you want to watch it, go watch it, could possibly work. Maybe someone should try that. Why don't you and I start a channel where we're reviewing

films, crime films, and we'll like, you know, what could work what could work and we'll like tell people to go out and try the shit and then see what happens

I would love that die hard three I'm assuming you guys have watched the die hard oh yeah so I was watching a commentary of the guy that did die hard three

and the premise of that is like a bomb goes off in the subway it plays hell with the alarms you have to kill the alarms and they basically rob Fort Knops right

the CIA or somebody paid the actual writer, the screenwriter, a visit, and wanted to know how the hell he knew that that would happen because it was 100% accurate had it done that. They could have, they would have had to disarm the alarms long enough for somebody to go in there and do that. Obviously, you got an elaborate plan.

There you go. That's right. That's right. That's a sexy man right there. The similarities. But he said that would have worked. Like that plan would have worked. And he was like, he said, I didn't know it.

He said it was just kind of an educated guess, but I promise you, I'm not going to try to do it. We know what Frederick Forsyth did that in a couple of his damn novels. A Day of the Jackal, the guy creates the dead baby identity method with that book. And then there's another book he wrote about an art heist that walks through how to steal a painting and a group of criminals followed it step by step and did it. Is that the big art heist, what, in Boston? I forgot where that was, but it's Fred Borset. He wrote Day of the Jackal and a few other books as well. And I mean, fantastic author, but evidently he got the criminal mindset, too. I think that was that one in Boston where they stole all them paintings and nobody ever got it.

Yeah, the Gardner Museum Heist. Yes, yes. Right, right, right. You know, what about the Thomas Crown affair? I have a buddy who robbed a, I want to say it was like a, it was like a Loomis. you know, whatever, you know, cash delivery truck for like banks? Is it Loomis? Who does that? Loomis does it.

Absolutely. Loomis. Maybe it was Loomis. It was one of those. And what he did was he put an ad in the, it was in Seattle, Washington, put an ad in the clean up in the, in the, in the, um, I know you're talking about. Yeah, Anthony Kirstio. Show up with the, uh, the mask on. So here's what he did.

He said it was the, it was the, for the cleanup, uh, cleanup Seattle Foundation. and they were going to pay like $25 an hour. And all you had to do was show up on this corner. At this time, you had to buy, you know, one of those sweeper things that you sweep with. You'd have a couple bags where blue jeans, a long sleeve white shirt, wear a mask, a dust mask, and show up at the corner. And they said if the, now the truck usually show up around, let's say, 10 o'clock. They said, he said, show up at like 9.30. and if the if the um whatever if the supervisor doesn't show up by 10 o'clock go ahead and start cleaning up so it this thing shows up and he's dressed the same way he's out there hanging out with them and he's like was you did you get the did you go to did you get the uh the message in um you know whatever it is uh in the ad or what what is it uh Craig's List and they're like you know oh yeah yeah I answered it too oh yeah well I heard we were supposed to start cleaning up so they're cleaning up and then the Loomis truck like pulls up

up. And so they're kind of spread out around the area. And by the way, there's like 22, 23 of them. They're all over the place. And suddenly the guy jumps out with the bag of money. He has a can of mate, a bear mace. I remember that. I remember that. Walks up, boom, hits the guy in the face with it. Bam, the guy drops the bag. He grabs the bags, takes off running. So the cops show up and they're like, what was what do he look like? The guy's in a white shirt and he had pants. They start arresting all these guys wandering around. Is just him? Yes.

Is that him? That's him, too. So. Did me have a raft or something in a river or something behind the back? Like an intertube or something. It started with, it started with a jet ski, but the jet ski actually, um, bottomed out when he was doing the, the run through kind of he ran through it like a week ahead of time. And then he realized that the, the, the path he was going to take with a jet ski was just too shallow and he ended up body it being it out and cracked it. And he's like, okay, this is no good.

So then you're right, he just used an inner tube. And they were calling him, what was it? What's the guy that jumped out of the plane? D.B. Cooper. Yeah, they're calling him D.B. Tuber. D.B. They started following him, right? And they didn't rest him right out of the bat.

They started following him. And he was, wasn't he blowing the money a little bit? Yeah, he's, they always do. He was hooked on opiates. And, you know, he was, what it ended up happening was, one of the things that had happened was when he was running he said he thought he's like i felt like i was really a far distance away and he ended up throwing off the mask now keep in mind they don't have his DNA so he's and he's not thinking of anyway because he's thinking they're going to grab all these other guys they're never

going to realize that i took off this way he had a whole way that he went where they won't find me well you know 30 FBI agents are going to find you yeah so they find the mask and they're like well we have no DNA to connect this with and it turned out because he had cased the place so well it had become a pattern and a homeless guy that slept in the alley noticed this guy shows up every couple of days and he always leaves right after that truck shows up

and he leaves and then he folds up all his clothes and he keeps him over here and so he thought I feel like he's casing this bank so he wrote his tag number down oh geez oh geez so the homeless guy once he found out the bank had been robbed he tried to tell like the police he told like a you know, an employee, like a city employee, and the city employee was like, get out of here,

get out of here. But the city employee thought about it after the bank got, you know, heard the bank got robbed. This guy was trying to tell me about how he knew who the bank robber was. So he put in a report. The FBI gets a report. They go talk to him. He says, yeah, yeah, he was here. He had like this little ratty dog.

So they said, okay. He said, but I've never seen him before. They go, okay. So they got a bunch of hamburgers from Burger King. And they went to where the homeless people were. And they said, does anybody know a guy he's got a beard? he's an older guy he's got a little dog like oh yeah you mean jimmy jimmy sleeps in a bus uh an abandoned bus out there in the woods so they go out to the woods where jimmy is and as soon as he gets there he walks out he's like where have you guys been you're probably here about that bank robber i got his license tag that's how they got on to him damn so then they eventually grab something of cursios and they get the DNA of cursio's DNA they follow him around so they get something get his DNA match it to the mask they go plus we got the old man the tag i feel like we got enough

right and they grab him and arrest him and he's done you know once they question they question one of his buddies his buddy rolls over immediately says yeah i told him about you know i i he one of his buddies worked at like loomis i don't know that i don't think he was loomis but it was like loomis right told him about the whole thing yes yes yes yes yes rolled over on him fucking rats i think he's got a picture with george young in prison he does he was his She was in Kelly. That, yeah, okay. All right, that's, that's how I wound up coming across that story.

And didn't he start writing books later, like children's books? Children's books. He now owns the largest Lego land, other than Lego land. He has a huge warehouse filled with Legos. Wow. The other way, overcom. I feel like he's overcompancing. Wipes children's books.

Nice guy. And what's so funny about him is, like with George, I'm like, Wow, George Young. I said, wow, that's so cool. He was your sally. He's like, yeah, he is total dick, by the way. He's like, I mean, really a jerk. And I was like, really?

He said, oh, yeah, he said, really obnoxious. He said, like, that movie makes him look like a nice guy. He said, he's not. Because I don't think he ever was. Right. You know, I talked to George right before I started my podcast or started interviewing people. Right. And we actually exchanged number.

I talked with him on the phone. And he told me he wasn't feeling well to give him about a week or two. And then ultimately it wound up passing away. So I missed that opportunity to. See? Like, screw him. I'm dying. You could have had the last George Young.

The ball on this guy. I had close to the last Tom Seismore interview before he died. I like Tom Sosmore. I did too. I like his body of work as a film was really good. Yeah. That was a good bank robin movie. They just kind of wouldn't like cowboys.

It was good. What about Inside Man? You guys ever seen that? It's good. Yeah, I love that movie. I interviewed, he didn't have a huge part, but it was like the cop that went up and talked to Denzel when he got there. His name is Victor Calicchio. He actually co-wrote Summera Sam with Michael, or, yeah, Michael Imperioli from the Sopranos.

And then I think Spike Lee directed it. Spike Lee did direct that, yeah. Yes, but Victor Calicchio, I think that's how you say his name. was in there, and I've actually visited his house. He lives in New York, but yeah, that was a real good film. So have you seen Mesrine Parts 1 and 2 or not? Who's that? Mezrene, M as in Mary, E-S-R-I-N-E.

You need to look both those films up. I don't know. I've never heard. It's about a gangster overseas, true story, but it's an extremely good film, both of them. I'm sold. I'm sold already. Yeah, you had them at Gangster. I'll tell you, you guys heard of Joe Colombo, right? Oh, yeah. So still the Colombo crap.

So I went and visited this week when I was up in New York. First time I've ever driven in New York, by the one, New Jersey. I ran in a car and went to his son, Chris Colombo's house. He invited me to his house, which was Joe's house when he was live. And that was pretty interesting just to be in that house and see that. And, you know, hear him talking. He does a sports gambling podcast because he was a big bookmaker after. He didn't go into that poor.

of life, but I think he probably benefited from the connections, obviously, and he was a huge bookmaker, and he'd done a show on HBO called, I think it was called House Arrest, where he was about to go to jail, and it just followed up around his house, and, you know, he had his ankle monitor on and shit, and he's got a lot of parallels to Tony Soprano, and I used a short with that not too long ago, where it was like he had the kid, you know, the boy and the girl, the house, you know, the animals and, you know, all that stuff, but it's pretty close to the parallel. I was there totally. That's all right. That's all right. Jersey was crazy, man, driving up there. I've never driven in that area before. That was a lot. I was a little nervous. They can't drive. Or maybe it was I'm me that couldn't drive. Well, somebody couldn't drive.

So how are your channels doing? What's going on with? Who me? Either one of you. Okay. So, you know, I didn't hire a film crew, so we'll go to Brett. I did. I did. And so, so. So I hired, it's called Procast as this company. They're outstanding. I don't know how they're, how they have any other clients because they're always talking to me by the hour, but, but, you don't need any other clients. So, you know, the owner comes in and she's, she's talking to me, and she's like,

you know, I looked over your channel. You've got all these videos of content. You're coming across well, but I don't know what your channel's about. And I'm like, I don't either. I was like, you know, it's been called a self-help thing with cybersecurity veneer. And she was like, look, she said, it's a good show. You're, you're doing all right. But what we'd like to do is split it into two different shows.

And I'm like, okay, I'm not the professional here. You are. So we now have criminal thoughts. And I got to be honest with you, man, the first episode hit 4,200 views. And I had never had a show like that that. that did anything like that. Nice. Yeah, it went, it went really nice.

And so now everything that's crime related takes place on the criminal thoughts show. The Brett Johnson show is basically, you know, you kind of a whoever I want to talk to, you know, is what that is. But the criminal talk. Is it still interviews on the Brett Johnson show? Still interviews. And I'll do an occasional solo show on both platforms. But so the criminal thoughts show we do, we interview criminals. Like tomorrow, I'm interviewing Richard Midgiff, the guy is he served 23 years in prison, gets out, and he just, he writes bills now for, to try to, you know, help with sentencing with minors and things like that. So we're talking about that. But I'm going to be talking about like Jones Town. So any type of past or present crime is going to be subject fodder for criminal thoughts. Meanwhile, the, the Brett Johnson show is whatever I want to talk about.

And fortunately, I'm hoping to get a big bump from the Jordan Peterson show. So I was a guest on his show about two weeks ago, and that's supposed to air late December. Yeah, I remember I talked to. You said you were going up there. Do you know how irritated I am right now? I said that too irritates you. What? You hadn't been on there? If it makes you feel any better, he didn't say anything that usually gets him in trouble on the shorts. It was a two and a half hour.

It was supposed to be an hour and a half hours. And it was all counseling Brett was what it was. But it was really good. Yeah, it was really good. Wait, he was counseling you? Yeah, it was like, you know, he's a psychologist, man. So it was like, it was like a therapy session for Brett Johnson. We come in and we talk about the dark triad.

That's how he starts. And then from there, it's just like, I mean, he's asking those hard questions. And it's like, holy shit, man, this guy knows his stuff. And we just dive into the psychology of Brett Johnson, cybercrime, everything else. And it was like, I'm so irritated. He's like, I am so irritated. It's going to be good. I don't even feel like you even know who Jordan Peterson is.

And I have a deep understanding and an emotional connection. I cry sometimes when I listen to his stuff. It's so good. It is really good. And I feel like you, it's background noise. You're not going to benefit off of that conversation anyway. Wow. If it makes he feel any better, when he got through talking to me,

I didn't know if I was actually doing, if I had done enough with my life yet. Now, that's the truth. And, you know, he looks at me at the end. He's like, so, you know, what would you, Jay? He asked these questions. I can't say a lot because, but he asked these questions. I'm like, shit, I don't know, man.

but it was it was really good man they flew me into uh we were filming in phoenix so they flew me in put me up at a nice hotel for a couple of nights and uh the dude was all business he he wore the uh i don't know if you've seen the clips with it but the joker suit that he had made he wore that the vest is a straight jacket it was outstanding who was this Jordan Peterson Jordan Peterson he's amazing yeah he's good he's a professor He's a professor of Canadian. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about. Jordan Peterson.

He does the whole. That's what he does. That's what he does. Well, let me think about this. I'll shoot you the link as soon as I know when it's going to air. So he interviewed Michael Franzis. Are you serious? He did.

He did. I need an email. I tell you what, no shit about it. I will reach out to his production person and give him the contact information. Tell him, I am truly disturbed. I will do that. And there's no more honestly disturbed person other than you, maybe you, Brett, you're, but you've got a whole, I'm a reformed thing going.

I have reformed. We're reforming. Unless, I mean, if you know someone that's got like 8,000 bitcoins, we can go ask them some questions with a hammer. and I'm sure Wade would go into that one too because he's all about that mobster bullshit. Yeah, I mean, 8,000 Bitcoin and then we're talking. See? Unbelievable.

It doesn't take a lot to sway me. It's so depressing. He's like it's so depressing. So, I don't know. I got me all I'm fucked up. You talked about Julian the other day. I watched his episode with Sean Ryan. And I sent him a DM and I was just like, hey, you know, enjoyed that show with Sean Ryan.

And he sends me something back. And he's like, you know, how long you've been following the show? And I was like, a couple of months I said, Matt told me about your show at CrimeCon. And I was like, I said, I've been on his show before. And I said, I've been on Danny's. And he's like, no, no, he actually, he's like, I think he said verbatim. He was like, love Matt, great guy, love Danny. He's like, wait, is this Wade?

And I didn't tell him my name. It was from my crime and entertainment. Instagram and so he was like is this way and I'm like yeah and he's like oh yeah he's like I know you he's like a great story and I'm just like wow I didn't realize he knew who I was yeah it's pretty cool yeah he's he's my go-to guy when I have a YouTube question yeah well you told me that and then I was like all right well I'm waiting let him talk to him and get some answers and bring him back to me because I had so many clips from so many movies just fired up and ready to go and I still may put him out on like TikTok and Instagram because I don't think you get in trouble

there but i'll probably refrain from sticking them on youtube yeah what what about a you guys may have heard of this and i don't know if you have any experience with it but opus clips have you heard of that no no okay so opus clips and i think that's i think that's the name of it um you make an account it does it is a monthly subscription but you drop a video in there hour and a half or whatever you tell it how long you want the shorts to be and it will completely cut them caption, everything, change the cameras. It will do a lot of the legwork for you. That's open to other people's content.

I don't think so. I like this. No, you drop preferably your own videos in there. And it'll spit you out like 10 clips and it will have them in order of which ones are most likely to do best. So the first one obviously is going to be the best. And I know a lot of people that use it because I think it might have something to do with the price brand, but like all the caption

colors are the same. It's like red and green. The captions are green and the red follows what they're actually saying. And I mean, they do fairly well. And I thought about subscribing to that. I didn't know if any of you guys had ever heard of it. But I'm always scared that and not that I'm good at this, but they might not follow my vision. But at least if they pick out the talking parts, I can just go and add some pictures or something like that. Well, you know, your clips, compared to the first few clips that you did, you know, your clips are, you know, phenomenal now as opposed to. I like what he did with me.

I really did. Oh, I don't know. I haven't. I don't know. I did see that. One of them came up on my thing. But I'm saying when the first time, when he was first doing it, he was just taking, he was taking the entire horizontal clip and just sticking it in the middle.

And then he put like, you know, crime and entertainment up here. and then it'd be some other garbage down here. It was just like, what do you do? And like, you got to spread it out. You got it. And then he spread it out a little bit. And I was like, no, what do you? And then I cut up a bunch and sent him to him.

He's like, oh, these are good. I'm going to post these. I'm like, you're supposed to do those. Well, I had never done, I had never done like the horizontal stuff, you know, before. And once I got it, you know, you have to play around with the cropping a little bit. I don't use the same editing software that Matt uses. So he could only tell me so much. Right.

And then I had to play it. So basically, in anybody that used DaVinci, you drop a clip in there, then you basically duplicate it and then crop it to where they just stack on top of each other. Okay. And then you can overlay the pictures and stuff on top. I mean, I've gotten pretty good at it now. Yeah. But it was a learning process. But still, like I said, of letting a computer generated for me, I don't know if like, like doing the show, I'll make little notes.

Like, all right, that's a clip. That's a, I'll jot down times. Right. I do that sometimes. I need to do it. The other day, I half this, like an hour into it, I thought, let me get a pin. Like, I was so into the story and I was like, what am I doing? We're now approaching an hour.

And I have, there have been four or five different great clips and I haven't written any of them down. You know, and you could do it. I just sit here, right here while they're talking. And I write down the thing and at least gives me an idea. Yeah, a time frame to go to. A whole hour went by. Like, bro, like, you've got to stop paying attention to these people, you know? I've got a week coming off for Christmas that my company's given me.

So I'm going to spend that time and just, like, upload a bunch of interviews, do a lot of clips. I don't have to worry about it for a while. Matt, you remember William Steele? Of course. So I stayed with him. Oh, yeah? You stayed with him? He went to the film festival, too.

Okay. And it was his first time going back to Brooklyn, I guess, since. he allegedly robbed the whole, you know, area blind when he was a locksmith term thief, Jewel and art thief. And so he hadn't been there in a long time and he had a place in Brooklyn. He's like, if you want to, you can room with me down here because I wasn't staying one night. The next night I was going to the Columbo guy's house. And that I swear to God, if I didn't know any better, I was like, he's just done at least,

you know, a half a key or something like that out in the park. I mean, he was wide open. But he had said he just, you know, a lot of memories hadn't been back in so long. But yeah, well, we stay together. And then he snores very loud. He looks like a snore. He is very much a snob. He was rattling the windows.

And I almost slept outside in New York City. It was that damn mad. He, his podcast was one of those podcasts that I did that I thought, I kind of, you know, I like the podcast, but it's probably not going to do great.

And then he was like, did great. And he is a great storyteller. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's really good. He's funny, too. I mean,

he said he didn't drink. And like, we went out to eat at some restaurant. and I was like, well, I do drink, so I'm going to drink. I don't want to, you know, make you uncomfortable. And I told him I'd buy his dinner, you know, because he paid for the room. And he's like, you know what, I think I might have a drink. And he said it was the first drink he'd had in a long time.

And then he did have another one right after that one. And then he called it quit. At around two of the morning, they asked us to leave the strip club. Yeah, yeah. Excuse me, sir. You got to put your pants on and get out of here. Yeah, he's a high-strung individual. but he was fun and he was he was doing like little interviews there at the film festival and i'm just

like i never go quite that far like i'll do some photo ops now because i know a lot of these guys but i don't do like many interviews and i mean and one of him he messed the guy's name was like okay we'll start it over and i'm just like i don't want to hold the camera for this that's probably getting pissed off um shoot what was i think i was this is kind of random but i was thinking about a Julian because I went I stayed when I went up to Julian's by the way so Julian was like hey I'm going to have you back I want to do another part to your story the the second part I was like okay yeah that's fine that's like I thought we'd done the whole story but we'd only go on so far I was like yeah yeah that's cool he was I'll fly you up and I said um I said okay I said well

bro you're gonna like put me up in a hotel or something he's like nah bro he's like I got you he said I got you to stay no problem I said okay and and then I got there and he had an air mattress on the floor and I was like I got 54 years old bro you know what an air mattress might do to me you were in prison they don't even those those prison mattresses suck you'll be fine no he didn't but I was just like no no I'm fine and then you know what he did to me too we we went and we had dinner and we started walking right like back to the back to his place and we were walking we were walking we were walking and then we went down to, you know, the street.

Then we walked by. And I thought, oh, we're going a different way. And so like an hour into the walk. And when we walked the restaurant, it was like 15 minutes. And like roughly coming up on an hour, I went, he is, okay, let's turn around a head back now. And I go, wait, what do you mean, head back? And he goes, yeah, he said, I said, I thought we were going back to the apartment.

He said, we are right now. I said, where have we been going? He said, we've just been walking. This is what I do. I said, what's not what I do, bro? I'm tired. I'm going to play six o'clock this. morning. Like, I thought we were going home. I ate too much. I wasn't asleep. I'm tired.

I'm an old man. I have to blow up my mattress. And so, you know, it's funny because then Danny is good friends with Julian. So I'm talking to Danny about the, I forget the clips or something. I know what I was talking to Danny about. But he said, well, you know, Julian says this. I was like, okay, well, listen, this is what I'm thinking. And he goes, well, Julian says this. And he goes, you know, Julian's my go-to guy for YouTube. I'm like, yeah, I know he's my go to guy for YouTube too. I said, but I said, he's, I go, he's also a New York liberal. I said, we can't listen to him.

And he said, and he goes, and Danny said, Danny started laughing and didn't say anything. And then two days later, when I talked to Julian, he said, I mean, I know you don't want to listen to anything this New York liberal says. Oh. And he told me one time, if he ever got caught, he wouldn't rat on anybody. He got dry-sitching. He just dry-sitched on me. That's a name with the people I talk to. They call that a name for people I get.

What? Oh, my God. He wouldn't hold water. And he stays in the city, I'm assuming, like Manhattan area. Yeah, Julian's got a great. I don't know if you know, do you know Julian's story? I kind of told, I tell Julian's story better than. Julian does.

I don't know his story. I don't know. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, about living, just quitting his job and starting the channel. Listen, it's a, it's, yeah, he, this is a guy who, so he, he graduates like, you know, like an Ivy League school, you know, I throw stuff in there that I'm not sure about, but it sounds good. And so when I told Julian his story, uh, to him, I said, tell me how much of this I have right.

And he goes, okay. And I told him the story when I was done, he's like, to be honest, you tell it way better than I do. He said, you got one or two things wrong. He said, and he told me, really, I was super close. But so I said, so he went to like a did all the right things, right? You know, goes to college, goes to school, goes to college, does really well, gets a degree in like finance or something, gets out, gets a job at one of these hedge funds, works under a guy for like five years, does really well, lives in the city. And he's at that point where his boss is like, okay we're now going to make you like a kind of like a whatever like a team leader where he'd have

guys underneath him right he's at that level and so they offer him the position and he said okay let me well you know let me think and this is what he'd been working for the whole time let me think about it he goes home to his parents house like that night you know when i say that he's like it was a couple nights later and then you know those little things like and i said so he goes there and he goes there and he goes to his parents and he says listen and he tells his dad his dad's like oh my god that's that's that's great like that's that's great he says so what you've been working for. He said, I know. He's like, that's great. So when is what you're going to do? When is this going to happen? He said, so I thought about it and I want to, I'm going to quit

my job. He said, I want to sell everything I have. I want to move back in the spare room and I want to turn back into my old bedroom and I want to turn your guest bedroom into a studio. And I want to start doing YouTube. Like his dad's never heard anything about a YouTube dream. His dad's like, what? Like, we're 150,000 grand into student loan debt. But he's like, he's like, what? He's like, yeah. And his dad's like, I don't, you know, he's like, no, listen, I've really been thinking about this. I've been studying the algorithm. Like, his dad didn't know anything about an algorithm. Like, what's an algorithm? So he starts telling him, he explains it. His mom's like, oh, my Lord. You know, she's doing the whole thing. What's happening my baby? So he convinces his dad. Let me do this. Just back me. Let me stay in the spare room. I'm selling everything. everything. Let me do this for two years. In two years, I think I'll have enough subscribers and enough followers that I'll be able to get a place in. He lives in, what is the one next to New York? It's like Newark or is it? New Jersey? Newark, New Jersey? Like, it's right across the river. Yeah. Yeah. You can take the water taxi right to the other side. Right. So he's like,

I can move there, get my own studio. He said, I should be good. His dad's like, I mean, if this is what you really want to do, yeah, of course you can move back in. Of course. And he's always sells everything, goes to his girlfriend, tells his girlfriend, who's been sticking by him, you know, and says, look, this is what I'm going to do. Like, and that's it. I'm going to be doing this all the time. And I don't think we should, you know, see each other anymore and breaks up with her. And it just, you know, crushes her.

So when I got to that point, Julian said, actually, I'd only been dating or maybe six months. Anyway, it was never going to work anyway. He said, but go ahead. He said, I love your version. So he does. He moves in with his parents, sells everything. Like when I went to his house. When he picked me up at the airport, I went to his house, he, like, he borrowed, like,

his mom's car. Like, he didn't even have a car at that one. And really did. He said, oh, I liquidated everything, sold everything. I had some money saved, obviously. He said, I've lived off that for two years, invested everything in YouTube, taught myself how to edit, taught myself everything, did the shorts. This guy's got four, 500,000, so maybe 600,000 subscribers.

He had, like, 350,000 or something when he called me after about. So I think maybe he lived with his parents for maybe two, three years, I think. Right. And then got the apartment. And when he got the apartment, had just kind of moved in there a month or two beforehand and contacted me. And that was the third time that I went out. And this is a guy whose YouTube pays all of his bills. Right.

He's banking. You know, I'm sure he thinks, I'm sure what he thinks is making good money. What I think is making good money or is a difference between living in New York. good money and Florida good so Florida he's making great money in New York he feels like he's barely getting by but he's really making good money so he um yes I mean that to me is so it it really is that kind of Gattaca he's 100% all in I'm not saving anything for the swim back it's all or nothing and I I yeah now granted he is a young kid he could have turn around. I'm sure he could have gotten another job. I mean, he's got to do what I'm

saying. It is, it's like, but he said, he said, you know, I knew. Like, if I take this job, like, this is it. You're stuck. I'm going to end up married with a couple of kids and this. He's like, I didn't like the job. Like I, after, he's like, after four or five years, he's like, I realized like, I can't do this the rest of my life. So I thought, and that's why I just thought, what? I thought the motivation of being able to do that and knowing that and having the forethought and realizing I'm going to make this sacrifice. And, and if It doesn't work with it. I could do something else, but I'm young enough to do it and to do it.

And it's working for him. That, I, that, listen, that, that's nice. That's a great story. When it works, it's nice. Yeah. When it works, it's nice. When it's not. I was the one that didn't work.

I got four guys that are living in the street right now. You don't hear me talking about them. Yeah. You're giving hand jobs for cash. Those, yeah, you don't hear about Bobby. Tell you about Bobby. It's a good story though, right? So it worked.

No, I like that. I mean, and I've often like, I don't make nowhere near enough on YouTube to even look at possibly looking that as being my final job. But I've often like hoped and dream that if it got to that point to where you could, it's similar. Like if I would stick with the career that I'm doing now, it would be a tough choice. I love doing this. I love meeting the people. I love going to places and, you know, talking to people and stuff like that. But I've often wondered if it did get to that point, you know, we might have to make a choice.

Well, I think it's kind of the Gary V thing where he's like, you know, you got to turn your, if you can turn your hobby into your job, then that's, or your career, then that, that's the, obviously, that's the goal. Yeah. If I had somebody that could do the damn editing, it would be a lot often because I love doing the interviews. I love talking to people. I love doing all that. It's just I'm having to do it all. to do all the editing for the shorts and it's not just one platform you post it was tic-tock is facebook it's instagram and i mean it it can be a lot and i can get sleep on the couch quite a few

times not because i want to because i'm made to i was just going to say how's your wife with that because mine's not okay with it oh mine hates it hates it like with a passion yeah she's not she's not good with it at all and my i'm only lucky that i get to say this is paying our bills and she just yeah i can't even say that i can't even say that i I'm lucky I have that. I didn't have that. Yeah, I can't even say that at all. But you know, you don't know.

You don't like, I mean, you know, look, last year this time, I had 55,000 subscribers. Yeah. You've doubled. What have you got now, man? More than double. As of right about an hour ago, 175, not that I look at it every hour, 175,000 subscribers. I remember when.

we when i done your show which was in like february i think of last year it's coming up on a year anniversary of me doing it i think you were at like you just broke the 70 000 mark oh okay had i okay cool yeah and within oh february i think two or three months after that you were already above 100 that's nice yeah well i should have waited a couple months i had wait i mean yours is one of my better videos it's got almost like 100 000 does it have 100 yeah it's it's like 98 or something. It's right at 100. It's close. Yeah, I, I mean, I had, I had one video that really, I mean, for my channel, it was huge.

Like, it's got like 800,000. Hicks. Hicks. And then as that one was going down, like a couple of other ones that had actually been out, started shooting out. Actually, Brett's is one of those that had maybe six, 60,000 views at the time, maybe 70. And then I think it's got like 200,000 now.

Like it just so that's, and we're talking about, we're not talking about like a month later. Right. It was, it was months. Like it was like three, four, five months later. It just suddenly started going. And remember I was even like, did you do anything? Right. It's something happening.

You're like, no. Yeah. Just no. But yeah, I don't know. A lot of times of people hear a story and then they just type in that person and if your episode comes up. Because a lot of the time, when I went on like Ian's show and even that guy that I said stole his TikToks, somebody even commented talking about I heard this story, you know, earlier this year,

it was on Matt Cox's podcast. Right. So a lot of them reference your podcast over Danny and some of the other ones that I've been on, but emotionally it's yours or concrete. That's probably what will happen when the Jordan Peterson show airs. The comments will say, hey, I saw him on Matt Cox. Yeah. Yeah.

Take the drive and traffic any way you can get it. Brett's has 222,000. So it went from like 70 or 80,000. And this is months later. Yeah. And I had a few others that all of them started doing that. And then so that's where that bulk of subscribers came to over the course of like three or four months. I got like 100,000 new subscribers.

Nice. Yeah. Yeah. I think Michael Dowles did pretty good for you. I watched that one with him. I think he's, I haven't really talked to him about that, but I think he's doing something finally with his life rights. When I talked to him in New York about two years ago or a year and a half ago,

I think he was on like the second person that had optioned his life rights. And then, you know, if they don't do anything with it during a certain amount of time, he gets it back and he can sell it again. And so I think at that point in time, it was sometime this year that it was set to expire if they didn't do anything with it. So what do people get when they say? Any of you guys ever sold your life rights? Not yet.

No, but I've sold other people's life rights. I know that sounds fucked up, but it's actually legally. How do you sell? I mean, they give you permission to that. I wrote a story. I own the rights to their story. I wrote a story. And then when I would, these guys in prison, when I would say, hey, they'd say,

hey, man, I want you to write my story. And I'd be like, yeah, cool, I'll do that. Here, sign this document. And I would, and I'd say, I'm going to attach your. life rights to the story that I write so that if I get out of prison and I sell it, I also get to sell your life rights. And they'd be like, oh, I don't know about that. It doesn't sound right.

And I go, well, let's say you've been locked up. Keepy coffee. Right. You've been locked up eight years. You've done nothing with your life rights. I'll write your story and I'll make an active effort to sell it. There you go. What are you doing when you get out?

And they're like, well, you know, my brother-in-law, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm, Yeah, I'm going back to Piggly Wiggly. And it's like, okay, so you're probably not going to be in that market. I'm going to try and be in that market. So I would have them attach their life rights. So I have the ability to sell them. And I've optioned several guys' life rights.

Who do you option to? So one of them was optioned to Warner. Now, this one I was just a part of. That makes sense. Because I'd actually made the mistake of sending my story to a, to a reporter that that I knew was going to get it into Rolling Stone, but I was supposed to be one of the writers. It was going to be with he and me.

And the last minute, he took my name off. Of course. And he just included it in the story saying, oh, this is the guy that sent me the material, but really I sent the story that you just published. Right. A little scumback move. But he did cut me in on the sale of the life rights.

That's the easiest way to say it, the way it didn't. It's longer than that. But the point is, is that that one got sold for like 50 grand. Okay. And then it was optioned three times. And they just re-optioned it about a year, a little over a year ago. They optioned it for, for about 60 grand.

So, hold on. It's a Warner Brothers optioned it three times. And then like, I want to say what? Why don't want I want to say like AMC Studios or GMC? AMC is Turner Classic something other I think AMC is a studio well I don't know

another studio optioned it again for like 60 grand and I only know that because I got it and talk to me because I threatened to sue him so I just get a check but this check was larger than the other one

not I only get like seven or eight grand or like seven grand for it so I got like six grand the last time and that's seven but hey that really I really needed that money and it came in handy and I was thankful for it at the time

even though I still hold some resentment So, but I've also optioned other stories, right? Like I've optioned, um, uh, John Bozziak's story has been optioned a few times. Uh, and then, you know, but the other options have been small like, like $3,000, like $3,500 or, um, what was one was like $1,800 or $2,500. They've been small. You know, you option them for about 18 months and if they don't do anything with it. Now, keep in mind, you sell the option. If they make the movie, then they give you like, whatever your deal you worked out.

which is like half a million dollars or 400,000, and then you get a piece of the budget and you get other things. So it might be half a million to a million dollars. Who knows? It's not millions, what people think. But, and I've done the, and so then in 18 months, they have the option to re-option it for another 18 months,

but they have to pay you again. Yeah. Once they make the movie, obviously, they pay you half a million or whatever your deal is with them. But of course, you know, Hollywood options, you know, hundreds of these every single year that, and they only make three of the,

three or four movies a year, each, each studio, but they might option a hundred of these. You know, so the likelihood, you know, that your option's going to get picked up right away is, you know, it's, you know, it's not great. But there are guys that have made an entire career out of just optioning. Yeah, that's what I was going to. So who actually do you submit it to for people to look at, I guess? Yeah. Well, first, obviously, you need something written, right?

Okay. typically you you want it written and you want to publish it somewhere so you put it on like that's why all my stuff is on my um is on my website and then you know you want to copyright it not that it means anything is publishing it is a form of copywriting but still it's nice to say hey i've copywritten it um so i copyright them and then what happens is you can go to different production companies and tell them, look, I have a story I'd like to pitch to you. And they'll put you on the phone and you can send him the stuff and they'll read it. And you might hound them for a little bit.

Or they'll reach out to you. A lot of people, because of my channel, a lot of producers reach out to me and will say, hey, look, you know, I watched the Brett Johnson episode you did. He's great. Can you give me his information? I'm like, oh, Brett's fine. Have you seen mine? My story?

It's amazing. Brett's doing all right. He's fine. He's actually already optioned it. I'm so sorry. But mine is available. So what happens is like I got contacted by a producer for Jeff, is it Jeff Turner, the counterfeiter?

Yeah, yeah. And they contacted Jeff. And then Jeff called me like a week later. He's like, hey, man, those, these people contacted. me. And I was like, right? And I was like, I know, right? Because I gave me your number. And but I was like, and he said, yeah, they are saying they want me to, they sent me something to sign. And I was like, oh, did they? He's like, yeah, it's an option. And I went, okay, send it to me. So I read it. And I came back. I said, call him back and tell them you that you're not signing an

option for no money. Like, so I kind of worked with him. We negotiated it. I want to say it was like, well, anyway, that's his business. But we negotiated a decent little option. And it was really for only like 12 months and they wrote a screenplay they hired someone to write a screenplay they've optioned it again since then um i think i talked with him because i had him on right after they optioned at the first time oh okay yeah i'd have been around the time he did glad too i think somewhere long than neighborhood yeah he's he's he's got a great story he's got a good story for for uh brett probably too yeah it's counterfeiting he's counterfeiting huh i'm hard all a bill I mean, he was counterfeiting, you know, $100 bills, and he was using, you know, Bible paper.

Yes. Bible paper. Bible paper. So, yeah, he would like, you know, glue them together and put the trip in and everything. And he got charged and the secret service, they flew in a team and a film crew for him to show them how he did it. And he got a reduction in a sentence for it. A massive one. That's pretty amazing.

Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, he was pumping out, I think, in the millions around the Tennessee area. And he had a great racket, too. He would, like, sell them to drug dealers, like sell them 10 grand of fake money for three grand of real money. It's not bad. Yeah. He was also going into stores and, too. Yeah.

Yeah. He's also going to stores and give it. It's so funny because he has film that he put out where he's at the counter and gives him the bill. And they're like, oh, that's really him? Yeah. I didn't know that's really him. You can see him. kind of and then the guy they put it in there and give him the change he's like he's

kind of walk so but he's he's got a he's got a good story he did he had a good hustle like that was yeah that was that was actually a really good story yeah so you guys need to hook me up with some of these really good stories oh yeah well that's going to hop on your show too yes I let's I need both of you on there I'm going to reach out I mean who wants come on first now that I've got this new thing launched. Criminal thinking is the one I would be good at criminal thinking. Exactly. He's not really a criminal.

But his story would be outstanding because he always caught up in the justice system. And they almost screwed his ass over. Yeah. Very close. Listen, if I ended up getting arrested thrown in jail, had to bond myself out, pay an attorney to fight the case. I feel you did get screwed over. Not as mad as you could have.

Right. Yeah. It could have definitely went worse. Yeah, for sure. And that's the thing. Even when I have a lot of people on the show now, like, you know, guests and stuff really don't have a clue even now about my story because I never talked about it on my channel. Like, I've never done an episode on Crime and Entertainment about what happened to me. I've only talked about it with you guys. Are you open during the day at all or not, Wade? Not Monday through Friday, typically. Sometimes Friday. I don't work some Fridays. Okay. But I am going to have the week of Christmas, from Christmas to New Year's, and I don't know what you're, I'm going to be off that whole week. Do you want to plan on recording that week? Are you okay during that time? Yeah, I'm not doing anything. What about you, Matt? I don't have a job. Yeah, but you're recording a show. You put out these shows like every frigging day.

I, you know, the problem is I schedule like seven or eight of them a week and only like four. Okay, I'm having that trouble right now. I've had two or three of them cancel on me this week. And, like, part of me is upset, but then sometimes it's like, oh, yeah, I didn't really want to. Not that I didn't want to do it, but I didn't, you know, it was, I had some other shit I needed to do anyway. Matter of fact, one of the guys that rescheduled, Matt, I think you had him on your show not too long ago. And I can't remember his last name, but he was doing like the poker machines or something like that. Yeah, yeah.

The machine. Yeah, yeah. called him a machine. Yeah. He's your mom or what else's his name? What's his real name? I don't know. I forget.

But he's a good, he's a good storyteller too. Yeah. Yeah. I listened to his show on your channel. And yeah, we had to reschedy, he said he wasn't feeling well.

But yeah, I've had quite a few people reschedule here lately. Well, then what I'll do is we'll plan on me and you, Wade, recording that Christmas week like that. Matt, I'll reach out to you tomorrow

and we'll set some sort of day where we can do that. Okay. Yeah, that's cool. I want to have Matt back and cover, like, we covered everything, well, not everything, but most of the stuff that he did until he got caught. I want to hear some jail stories. Oh, yeah. I don't have any, like, shankings or anything.

No, no. I just, that's the thing is it does it. Yeah, that's what I want funny stories. Because coming from you, they're going to be hilarious. So that's what that's all right stories. He really does. I was going to say, it's like every one of these channels that all the stories are nothing but fights and the gangs and the this. Like, come on.

Yeah, I want to go opposite of that. Yeah, there's like, if you're involved in that stuff, it's because you're involving yourself in it. Like, you don't have to do your time that way, unless you're maybe a pen or something. And I know guys that were in pens that, like, they weren't involved in any of that kind of stuff. And I try to change it up a little bit like that. Like, I have this lady on, I don't know if you guys are big horror movie watchers. Oh, yeah. The Night of the Living Dead that they remade from 1990.

Remember that with Tony Todd in it? Yeah. Is that the one where they were in the mall? No, that's the one where in the basement. Yeah, they were in basically a farmhouse. Tony Todd, the guy that would go on to play Candyman later on. The female leave was Patricia Tallman. And I interviewed her.

And I didn't know until I started looking at her IMDB. She was a stunt woman as well as an actor. So she is a stunt woman in like Jurassic Park, speed, another 48 hours, like a slew of them. And so I was asking her questions about all the ones that she actually did stunts for. And she's like, you know, are you sure you want to hear the story? I'm like, yeah, I didn't know that like I knew every scene she was talking about, like, long kiss good night. She was a stunt double for June and Dave. And so I knew like every one of these scenes she was referencing.

I was like, I had no idea that was you. And she's like, I'll go in. I'll be flew in for one day. That film Shocker that West Craven did when the guy got electrocuted. She was like the nurse that went up and checked on him right after he got electrocuted. But you don't know because the close-ups is obviously the other person. But I thought that was a very cool interview. And then obviously we talked about Night of the Living Dead, which was really good, one of my favorites.

You're a horror movie fan, Matt? Oh, dude, I am. Yeah, I'm not really, except for the fact that I don't consider like Night of the Living Dead, you know, that's a zombie movie. Like, I love zombie movies. I love Walking Dead. I love, like, World War Z. I love a legend. I am legend.

I'd read the book when I was in prison. Did you watch the one we're talking about from 1990 with Tony Todd in? I may. I don't think so. It doesn't ring a bell. It's really good. I mean, they made the first one,

what, in the late 60s? Yeah, the first one was black and white. George Romero did it, which he done a lot of the early zombie movies. And then he done Dawn of the Dead, where they're in the mall,

the one you were referring to. Right. And I think he did Day of the Dead as well. They redid day of the dead. Yeah. Yeah. And Tom, Levinie, who's like a really good makeup artist.

He done makeup for about any horror movie you watched through the 80s and the 90s. He actually directed Not of the Living Dead. I didn't even know that until I started not too long. Yeah, I'd like to interview him one day. He seemed like a cool dude. Just anybody doing all that makeup stuff for all the horror movies? And he was the guy in from Dustal Dawn. He was a sex machine and from Dustal.

With the special pistol. Yeah, with the pistol. Yeah, yeah, the special pistol. Yeah, Brett, we need to do a show about the movie. Because Matt's, I'm like, I don't know. That's like, what the hell of this? Have you seen the new Exorcist, by the way? Did you choose to do that POS?

Yeah, with the two girls? Yeah. Yeah, I wasn't a big fan. No, it's like they did the first one right, and everyone passed that. It's just like, what the hell is going on? Yeah. I think they remake something. They seem to ruin it.

Yeah. Well, the Night of the Living. Dead was one of them that they didn't ruin it. That one still stayed good and held up. And I like both Don of the Dead's. That's the one in the mall. Yeah, like both versions of that. Yeah, but you're remaking a B movie.

Well, that's true. You make with another B movie. That's true. I'm talking about like, you know, when they remade like a what was it, oh gosh, a total recall. Yeah, that was garbage. Like, you have a, stick with the script. Yeah. The only ones I've seen

him. What? I was going to say, Mike Bay made a killing doing that with his show's production company Platinum Dunes probably like the early 2000s. They went and remade like every horror movie there was. They went and remade the hitcher. They remade the Hills Have Eyes. They'd done the other Texas chainsaw massacres.

It was like every horror movie from the 80s, he just went through and done a reboot, and he was making a killing doing that. And some of them are good. Most of them are shit. I mean, I like Harley Army. Yeah. Yeah, I was going to say the Texas chainsaw one was good.

Yeah. You know, another one that was good, was the remakes of the planet the apes. Oh, yeah. Those are good, except for the one with Walmer. But, and then I, listen, this was in prison. We literally would have week-long discussions where, you know, you're like changing. Did they have, um, moves?

Do they have the moves in the prison, you know, the, it was a lockdown facility where you, they had the, the 10 minute moves, yeah. Right. So you'd see somebody in another unit and you'd, walk by them. They're leaving the rec yard and you're leaving your unit, you're walking by each other. And 20 feet, as you approach

them 20 feet away, you start the discussion. Right. And I'd say, you know what? To make a good remake? They'd be like, what did I go? You know, I'd say, you know, escape from New York and they go, where's he going to land? Where's he going to land? They'll come up with something. They'll come up. And we'd walk by

with. They have the technology now to do it right. It's a B movie. And then, you know, we just keep walking. And then I, and then just as they're leaving, you'd hear him scream something like Capricorn 1. And then so then on the way back, you know, you'd walk by and I'd be, that'd be an amazing remake. Oh my, you know, O.J. Simpson was in that. Who would play O.J. Man, I don't, you know, those comments.

And they'd go on for weeks because you might not be in that guy. You might not both be on the rec yard for a week. And then that discussion would take on a whole new thing. but yeah capricorn one what a great movie that would be as a remake i don't know if you ever saw it it is it's good um what else would be great capricorn one um oh oh wait wait um oh i just watched i made jess watch it the other day she hated it um it was great which makes it even better when i make her watch something that she really just despises it really lets me know how much she loves me because when she makes me do something i don't want to do i'm miserable and i let her know

I'm miserable. She said, well, you were going to sit here because I watched 2001, three fucking hours. Oh, that's a great film, man. I'm like, that's a great film. And she's like, you have no appreciation. Don't even talk to me. Logan's run. Yeah, why haven't they remade that? That'd be great. Yeah. I thought that did not remake that? No, there were plans to do that with the same team that did Westworld, but it never got off the ground. Okay. So, you know, it was actually three.

three books. I didn't know that. I read all three books in prison. I had that kind of time. They weren't great. And it wasn't, and it was and listen, it, you know, in the, in the movie, it's there in a domed city. Right. In the books, it's the whole planet. Like, there's no dome city. And in the books, it's the age 21. But when the movie was coming out, they decided because the new, the catchphrase was, don't trust anyone over 30. So they said, 30 is better and it makes more sense because you could have contributed to society. So they went with 30. There were these little subtle changes. Right.

Either way, the exact movie, just with today's technology and a little bit of updating the script a little bit, would make a great remake. Yeah, it would, really. I keep hearing Rumbling as they're talking about remaking Scarface. And I just, even though Scarface without Pacino was a remake from a 30s or 40s movie with Paul, James Cagney.

Or James, okay. I thought Paul Mooney was in there, too. He may have been. M-U-N-I. Paul Mooney was a comedian. But Cagney had the, there was that one gangster film with Cagney where he's got the world is yours. Was that white heat? I think that was white heat, right?

Yeah, that's white heat. The original Scarface, I believe, was Paul, Paul Mooney. But anyways, Appuccino was a remake, which was very good. And the landmark, I don't know if they should touch that one. There's some, I don't know if you should touch it. One of them, it's like remaking Casablanca. Like, what are you doing? Yeah.

you want to fall on your face yeah some of them the bar is set to a certain point to where you got to be like I don't know if I can touch that it's our face I believe I mean just it's so synonymous now everybody has that poster I've got one of them in my garage with a bunch of others everybody that I also got one of Bob Marley too

there you go what is what is your wife say about this what you know what you know what it is there's a lot that you could be asking about specifically that she that she like when you you put a poster does she come home one day and you're putting up a scarface poster in the living room and go no okay well yeah so when actually when we when we separated i bought a lot of posters but i was planning on putting them in the garage and making like you know my little man cape but the one i put in the house was the poster from the movie goodfellas

that the they seen when they had the body in the trump when the mom was talking about the dust the old man and two dogs and i had it on the wall and when we she went back in she's like all right that's got to go and i'm like that's not going in it's not even nobody would even know that's a movie picture like a few people would but not many she's like it's got to go it's got to get out of it's not saying i'm just like i'm not moving it and then it was like either it goes I go. And so it went to the garage. Yeah.

But yeah, I know who's winning that argument. Yeah. So all of my, you know, posters, movie posting and all that is in the garage. I had this one made behind me that's, you know,

it's kind of cut off in this one, but that's the De Niro print from Goodfellas. Right. Yeah, my garage is set up with a, you know, like a projector screen and, and all that stuff.

I thought about doing the studio out there, but it's not insulated and it gets very cold out there. So it would not be good. Okay. All right. I mean, yeah, she'll get into some of that stuff. She'll watch Sopranos with me, but that's about it. And she will watch Goodfellas.

Okay. Yeah, it is. Even if you're not a fan of the mob genre, that's just still a good movie. I mean, it's the perfect gangster film. Oh, yeah. Did you watch Getting Gotti? Yes. I'm not saying that.

It's good. I interviewed the guy. I've done a lot of stuff with Ruggiano. Yeah, I noticed as we're watching it, Jess is, like she goes she goes i think wade interviewed that guy and i'm like she's like didn't you do a clip i'm like yeah yeah that that guy and then another one i think wait interviewed that guy and then another one comes up and i go i interviewed him and then she's like yeah you did interview him oh salelel yes and um uh they had um oh come on the guy who hangs out with um

um michael dowd all the time what's his you know he's everybody hates him oh alight john a light yeah yeah yeah yeah John A light. Yeah. And so, yeah, he was in there, too. Like, it was, I was amazing, like, out of, like, the eight or, like, let's say 12 people, we had basically covered all the mobsters between Wade and I, but none of the prosecutors. Like, we don't even call them.

Yeah. Yeah. The prosecutor. I had the lady, and people flipped out over that lady, Andrea Giavino, or what her name, she's in the get goty one. And the way it's cut together, it's like, you know, we own the city, and it's like, everybody, the mobsters were, or ex-mobsters and ex-people were going nuts. Like, she wasn't around and was that in the other.

And I actually had her set up for an interview. She had to reschedule. We're doing it next week. She was dating a really, really high-profile mob guy that was a huge drug runner, Eddie Lino. So that was her end to that, you know, lifestyle. And I don't know if it's the way she said it or the way they cut it, but it was cut in a manner of her saying, Like, she was right there beside him while they were doing it.

And she's actually, her story's been out for a while. She's done a 60 minutes a long time ago. She just kind of let it. And she wrote a book, but she just kind of got brought back in for this Get Gotti thing. So it was kind of like, you know, who's this woman? Where is it? Nobody really knew her backstory. So that's why I'm, I'm anxious to get her on to tell her story.

But yeah, I like the Get Gotti. And that just shows you that thing was number one, I think, for about two weeks on Netflix. So Gody's name is still very powerful. And just because of how he was, man. He was a charismatic dude. It was honestly, it was probably one of the better documentaries that I've seen on that, you know, that subject matter. Not just Gotti because they didn't follow it. It was more about the trials and everything.

Right. But it was, you know, it was good. Originally, it was supposed to be, and I know this because I do a lot of stuff with Ruggiano and his manager, it was supposed to be Fear City too. You know, they did Fear City about two years ago. and that was more from the cop side. Fear City, too, was supposed to be everything from the mobster side. And it just got to be so much about Gotti that it got renamed Get Gotti. So that was kind of how that whole thing come about.

Apparently, a lot of the stuff was shot for a while and it just finally come out. But, yeah, I thought it was good. I enjoyed it. It was cool. And everybody seeing all these people up there that, like you said, we've all had on our shows. Now, I haven't interviewed Sal. and I find some of his stories just a tad bit

hard to fathom well like he said it on there he said he went to this guy's house that's how he got the name Sally who bots he goes to this guy's house and he proceeds to by himself cut the man's wedding tackle if you will

right off him now Sal's not a very imposing guy to be able to pull something like that off and let alone wouldn't you need more than one guy I would think. I mean, you got one hand. He's going to struggle. You got to hold them down.

You got one hand with the knife. I mean, it's going to be a little bit of a struggle there. I'm not letting somebody do that to me, not what I'm fighting with everything I got. So some of the stories are a little bit out there for me. But, I mean, it's good entertainment. People love it. I was going to ask one more question. Brett, are you doing shorts?

My team is supposedly doing shorts. okay that'll be cool that'll be good they were commenting on the hat today they were like oh that's going to be good I hear it the short because I was going to say your your shorts I think did well

on my yeah and that's what I was telling you know when I brought that production team in I was like hey honestly my shorts when I'm in a short they tend to do pretty well I just don't know how to do the damn things

and they were like we've got you for an hourly fee and I'm like okay well I was going to say The short to drive a ton of traffic, not necessarily viewers, but subscribers. Okay. Yeah. Since I've started doing them, I've noticed a little uptick in mind.

And I, like I said, I've done a lot with bread. And they turned out really well, especially one of the last ones I put out when you was talking about finding out you could file income tax returns on deadpins. And you just had so many good points. I was putting all kind of different pictures. It was fun. I enjoyed doing that one. It's like, bam, bam, bam, okay.

It's like, I go on a cross-country trip, getting money out of these ATMs, and it's like a guy on a Cadillac. No, they're fun. Did you see Johnny Mitchell's got 900,000 subs? And he's not been doing this for two years? I tell myself he bought them. There you go. That makes me feel better.

Yeah, I was about to say, it makes me feel better. That's a lot. That's a lot. It is a lot. It's a lot. That's a lot of subs. Well, I mean, you know, there's superstars and, you know, you know, and then there's us. So, but how do you get to 900,000 subs in two years?

Well, you have a story? Yeah, you, what you do is you sell, you sell some marijuana, you get arrested for a low-level marijuana deal, you go to prison for a year or two, you get out, you go to a low security prison, you get out, you then tell a, a bunch of, you then tell a, a, a bunch of, you know, you get out. you then tell a bunch of people that men I just got out starting over I had a very low I did a couple years I sold some pot not a big deal and then about four or five years later you start realizing that people find it interesting and people are making tons of money by talking about their prison experiences and then you alter your prison experience to be I was in a pen I fought my way every single day I was a gangster I was a tough guy I fought every day they sent me to the pen and and that I was a huge drug dealer I was working with the cartel and uh you you

you study you read a bunch of books on it and everything you get out you start talking about it you get your comedian buddies to put you on all of their shows and you get 900,000 subs and you know that's cool like good for you and you and my story's true yeah and you know I wasn't social savvy. The social media savvy took me a little bit. And now I'm starting from ground, you know, from scratch. And I'm too honest, to be honest. For a con man, I'm extremely honest, which, you know, I really did it backwards.

I should have been honest to begin with. I probably wouldn't go to prison. And then I could be, I could be more skeezy now. And I'd have 900,000 subscribers. But I went the other way. So I'm going to have to, you know, I'm going to have to, work for myself. Right.

But I had a guy tell me one time I didn't do enough prison time or jail time to be on his story. That's not bitter. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I don't think he actually grasped the story that I had because I was like, and I even told him I was like, hey, I didn't do a ton of time, but I've got an interesting

story. And he's like, this person he asked me as well, how much time do? I'm like, well, about 48 hours. And he's like, yeah, it's not enough for the show. But it was hell. Yeah. And I'm like, well, it's not really. the point of the time. It's the, I do time mentally after that for five years, if you

call it that. I was like, but it's really the story. He's like, yeah, you know, I need people that's done a lot of time. Like, all right, yeah, that's your platform, I guess, you know. That's your platform. You do you, Bub. Yeah, yeah, I was like, but yeah, that was, it wasn't time in jail, but just letting that linger over your head. Oh, yeah, that'll have a period of time. Oh, yeah. Well, it is a little bit. That's why I have to throw some color on there every once in a while. Listen, there were so many comments about his beard in the comment section. They're like that beard. The one guy on Ian show said that guy's beard is as dark as under the bed at nighttime.

And I swear I don't look that dark, but y'all have like really high-end cameras. And I've not got anything in it right now. You can see the gray. Yeah. Yeah, I dropped the exposure, the dark going up all the black. Okay, so that's it. Do you really do that? Sometimes I do, yeah. But I don't know if I did it on yours or not.

It don't look that dark. But when I see it on y'all, shut, I'm like, damn, that does look really dark. At least to me, it doesn't look that dark. But on that, yeah, yeah, the beard was like leading for Ian's show. Everybody was on the beard. And I'm just like, now I need to capitalize on that and get a beard company on board. There you go. And let them sponsor crime and entertainment because it is, you know, a lot of people can't grow a full beard.

I didn't wear that. I don't think I can't. I look like in here. they can't grow it. I used to ask guys, I'm like, how do y'all get that, you know,

keep that shit so smooth in there, all detail. Kind of like, what did you got right there, that little area right there? A lot of people just can't grow it in there.

And I asked that guy, I'm like, how do you keep that so smooth? Like, I can't do that. And he's like, I don't grow hair there. And I'm like,

really? I was like, that's odd. I didn't come to find out. I guess it's not a common thing for someone to grow like a full beard everywhere in their face. So yeah,

I need, if any beer companies are listening to this by some chance here at the two hour mark he's like nobody's there's a two hour mark this show it up long ago if I had to debate this off the last numbers no one did it like 10000 did it get 10 000 it got I think I let me eight well we're not going in this to break landmark number that's true we're just yeah we're just you know having fun and we're just you know and we got a brand new show idea out of it of me and Brett are going to do. You know, that's not a bad idea.

It's truly not. And we'll find out about getting demonetized real quick because we've got to use shows, clips from the clips from the movie. Exactly. Yeah. Wait a minute. Where did I, where was our last show? Oh, there it is. 7,100. Oh, wow. Really? I know. It went for two hours.

Which is roughly what this is going for. This is going for two hours right now. This is a struggle. It's a struggle. I hear my wife, she continues to walk by the door, like, is he still talking? Oh, my God. I get texts sometimes in the middle of the matter. Are you still?

I'm like, when I'm done, I come out of the room. That's what I'm done. That's what I come out. Listen, I've been in here all goddamn day, man. It's been all day. Let me tell you something about Ian. I got an Ian story. So, Ian had, um,

Jess had the headphones on. They said, hey, you can listen while he's in there. So she put the headphones on. Oh. And they had the mics going. And they were setting up. And the guy, so it's Ian and his buddy were setting up in the other room. The doors closed.

You know, I had left. I had gone to like the bathroom. So they know that I've gone. They don't realize that she's listening to them. And Ian says, you know, like I know, like I know. doesn't like me anyway. Yeah, I got a hard time hiding it. But he said, listen, and you know, Jess is like super like, like territorial, like very protective

of me. And she said he goes, he was in there with the other guy and the other guy said, um, hey man, he's something like, you know, whatever. Do you need me to get a water? You need me to do this or something. And he goes, yeah, bro. He said, he's, yeah, we're going to need that. He said, this guy's a yapper.

Oh, Jesus Christ. And Jess said, listen, she said, like, I stood up. I almost walked in there. And I thought, no, don't ruin this for him. You want to walk in there. He'll walk in there and tell that little. And I was like, no, no, no, no. You did the right thing.

And so now whenever somebody, something happens, like, I'll be on the phone with somebody and she'll call in and I'll send her the thing. I'll say, hey, I'm on the other line. You know, you send her that. I'm on the other line thing. You know, I'll call you later. Right. And she texts back and she's like, okay, she'll go, how much longer?

and I'll text her back. I'll go, I don't know. This guy's a yapper. It's going to be a while. That's why I try not to call people too very much. I'll text me. I try not to call people unless it's really important. Yeah.

Like I think when I called you about those guys' channels getting taken down, that might have been the first or second time I've ever actually called you on the phone. That's because you were in a panic. Yeah. And I thought of you too. I'm like, well, God, I just seen the Merlino clip that you sent me, like literally a day before that. And then these guys are saying they're getting.

the channel's taking that after that. I'm like, oh, I might need to call cock. I don't know. I don't know if this would be conveyed good over text. You know what else I did? I had just, I'm getting ballsy. I had just taken Gattaca and I had condensed that form that like the brother seen, them swimming the whole. That to me. Yeah. I had just done that. See, I don't think Brett watches anything. I'm, I'm, I'm, you had set that shit to me. I had no idea what movie that was. You know what happens with Brett sometimes? I'll send him. something and as soon it gets there

and he immediately thumbs it and it's like you didn't it's a minute long video at least wait a minute what kind of con man so like I know you didn't watch it you don't know if I'll open up ding

I watched it but I had no clue what movie that was from I never watched that movie that's one of the things I told Julian I said well what about this I just did this and he's like take that down what do you don't do it Matt he commented on it he commented on it I think he said are you doing a clips channel now or something like that right yeah yeah yeah yeah so he told me I took that down too but I don't think that's a bad thing for Instagram though right I mean it no I left

listen I don't my Instagram isn't like it is monetized but I'm never gotten anything they don't know what I'm doing so um they've never paid me anything so like I'm not concerning I'm you know YouTube's my revenue. Right. You know, YouTube and Spotify, those two things pay all my bills. And anything else is just cake. Yeah. So like if Instagram disappeared.

Yeah. I'll start another one. That lady that I had on who was the Vegas, she was the Vegas shooting, one of the Vegas shooting survivors that did the documentary 11 minutes. Right. They got nominated for an Emmy. It was a really good documentary. A lot of the, there's like a four part series that's on Paramount Plus.

The whole first episode was a lot of like film footage from people with cell phones that night when the guy was shooting. But I was looking for some footage from that documentary to mix into a short. And it had Al Dean talking about him and his DJ on the bus. And then his DJ talking about he talked to, you know, somebody that's the babysitter had his kid in the hotel wind up being next to the shooter. The shooter had every room on that floor except the one that his kid was in. And so I was like, all right, I need to try to. piece this together and I looked and it was like 58 seconds and I'm like I'm just steal that whole thing and I just put my banner at the top of the bottom and on Facebook it it had like over

200 something thousand views oh wow my Facebook followers or likes or whatever went from like 1,000 to like 4.3,000 you got to people arguing about guns and arguing about you know was it an inside job did it really happen was the government I mean it just I didn't know it was going to do that but it definitely turned into a happy the argument. I think I text Matt and I was like the gun people are going at it. It's great. I'm watching the show. I'm watching the fireworks. What did you

what'd your shorts get on Ian's? Oh, fuck. It's over like 14 million now. 14 million, man. Yeah. Steele Loves talking about his shorts on A&E and he's like over 11 million views on TikTok and finally I didn't say anything to it. I was like

you know I'm at 14 million now, pal. You can just pipe down over there with that 11 million shit. You might have beat me in prison time. done like 19 years. I got you on the TikTok views right now, buddy. Okay. Yeah, I counted up the other day. It was like, I think, 14 or 15 million. And I can still see on my TikToks that people are still watching it because they'll like a comment that I've left. So it's still, you know, in the algorithm. And I'm assuming they're following me from that and not from my own hard work, blood, sweat, and tears. And I'm putting into my channel. I'll take it however I can get it.

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