Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Turbo Tax Scammer Makes Millions! | Queen of Tax Fraud

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

Rashia Wilson, dubbed the ‘Queen of Tax Fraud,’ sits down with Matt Cox to reveal how she went from boosting clothes as a teen to masterminding multi-million dollar tax scams in Tampa. From stripp...ing to scamming, Rashia shares her raw journey of survival, hustle, and the consequences that finally caught up to her.Rashia's linkshttps://youtube.com/@1stladyent813?si=Yqjg_91d9dh4dhy4https://www.instagram.com/1stlady_ent/Do you want to be a guest? Fill out the form https://forms.gle/5H7FnhvMHKtUnq7k7Send me an email here: insidetruecrime@gmail.comDo you extra clips and behind the scenes content?Subscribe to my Patreon: https://patreon.com/InsideTrueCrime Follow me on all socials!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/insidetruecrime/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matthewcoxtruecrimeDo you want a custom painting done by me? Check out my Etsy Store: https://www.etsy.com/shop/coxpopartListen to my True Crime Podcasts anywhere: https://anchor.fm/mattcox Check out my true crime books! Shark in the Housing Pool: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0851KBYCFBent: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BV4GC7TMIt's Insanity: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KFYXKK8Devil Exposed: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TH1WT5GDevil Exposed (The Abridgment): https://www.amazon.com/dp/1070682438The Program: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0858W4G3KBailout: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/bailout-matthew-cox/1142275402Dude, Where's My Hand-Grenade?: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BXNFHBDF/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1678623676&sr=1-1Checkout my disturbingly twisted satiric novel!Stranger Danger: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BSWQP3WXIf you would like to support me directly, I accept donations here:Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/MattCox69Cashapp: $coxcon69

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Starting point is 00:00:00 But the government started calling me the queen of tax fraud. Connections like IRS, D&V, postal workers, your refund would be direct deposit. $100,000 on this card, $100,000 on that card, drags the richest. But you've got to stop doing the illegal stuff. I couldn't. I couldn't. I was just on my own, like, all the way to, what, 14, 11 to 13. I'm still in cars.
Starting point is 00:00:27 I'm going to airports. like jumping in the cars at the rental car companies, the keys used to be in a nation, and we used to, like, take the cars and go sell them to, like, local drug dealers. I'm stealing clothes out of the mall. I'm stealing out of Walmart. I'm just doing it all, like, before I was even 15.
Starting point is 00:00:45 How are you stealing out of, don't they have the clips? And, like, how are you stealing clothes? So, at first, we used to just, like, go in the mall and, like, rip the beepers off and then put it in a bag. Right. Then they started getting, like, more events where they made the devices thicker, so I couldn't break it. So we started using, like, little clippers, like wire cutters. Then they got more events, so we couldn't use the wire cutters.
Starting point is 00:01:13 So I started making a beeper bag. It was like a regular mall bag, and you'll rip it open, and you lay it flat on the ground. I mean, flat on the ground, and you get some duct tape in aluminum foil, and you layer the bags and you seal the bag back together. So you can walk in the mall and it looks like you got a mall bat full of items, but it's really the thickness
Starting point is 00:01:37 from the duct tape. And we used to just drop the clothes at the bag, roll the bag up like that and walk off and it don't alarm. How long did you do that? I did that until I was so 14, I end up going
Starting point is 00:01:55 to a juvenile program for stealing. So I was going, I went to a juvenile program for stealing cars, stealing clothes, like just stealing, period. And they sentenced me to eight months. And I found out I was pregnant in there. So I got out. So now I'm a single mother at the age of 14. And I got a fiend for my baby. So I got out. And I was back stealing. Because now. When you, when you say they sent you to, like, would you get arrested? I got arrested. Yes. How did that happen? Um, one time I got arrested at this teen dance and I had this little Mustang
Starting point is 00:02:29 and it was like a drop top Mustang that I had got from the airport and we went to the teen dance and everybody like oh, well the police out there but I'm like shit, okay, it ain't got nothing to do with me but I go out there and they basically set us up they was really there to get the Mustang
Starting point is 00:02:47 and the driver of the Mustang. Which was you? What was it stolen? Where did you get the Mustang? From the airport. You know, it had the keys in there. It was new Mustang. is you're talking drop tops. I'm 14 years old riding in a rental car that I swear mine
Starting point is 00:03:00 because I used to get them and sell them to the local people, like the dealers and stuff in Tampa until you only get like three days before they get a put an APP out on the car. So I go out there and I'm like, they're not out there for me to walk up to the car. They bum rushed me, took me to jail and that was my last theft because they booked me and I did eight months. And that's when you found out your. You were pregnant.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Yes. Worst eight months ever. Like, oh, God, the worst eight months ever. Did you have the baby when you were locked up? No, I had the baby. I got out when I was, like, 36 weeks, and you have a baby 40 weeks. So I had one more month. You have to make money to pay for, to raise a kid.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Right. So guess what I did? I was back in the mall. I wasn't in the people cars, though, because I'm not going to get no grand theft auto, but it was like this. growing up, they'd be like, you go bigger, you go home. So you got a petty theft and you have a grand theft. We all know grand theft is a felony. Petty theft is a misdemeanor.
Starting point is 00:04:05 So it was like, okay, well, I can go to the mall and I can get under $300 worth of clothes for me and my baby and we'll be good. And then I'm like, no, if I can get $500, why not get $500? So it was like the greed in me and the... Didn't you just say $500 is a felony? 500 is a felony, yeah. But it was like, okay, well, if I get caught, like, what's the difference? I'm still going to jail, and I was a juvenile. But all of that had to come to a stop eventually.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I'm a mother now, and I didn't want to go back to jail and then leave my baby. So it was just like... How old were you? 15 at the time. Okay. And you're living with who? Back and forth between a friend of mine. and my mom on her couch.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Then the projects. Project to project. Are you going to high school? No, I dropped out in seventh grade. Yes. I just feel like growing up where, growing up from where I'm from, like when you a mother or a kid or however, I felt like me getting a job. I mean, me going to school wasn't going to help me take care of my baby. So it was either I be in them all every day.
Starting point is 00:05:24 day making money or I go to school. And at that time, school, to me, school wasn't going to get me fed. So how long does this go on? I end up getting pregnant again. So at 15, I'm basically doing the same thing, but I'm not, I'm not doing it in a sense of where I'm going to get myself caught. But now I'm like 17. And I just had was, no, I was a few weeks pregnant with my son. And Now I'm with these group of girls, and now we're doing, they, they're doing big things. Like, I was just a little old Navy children's place. Like, I was a petty booster. But now you got the boosters that want to walk up in dealers.
Starting point is 00:06:07 They want to go up in Macy, the Burdines at the time, all of these department stores, but they're making money. It's not. So you were, are they taking orders? They're taking, they're making money. Right. So now I'm in a big. So guess what we do now? You will call me and say,
Starting point is 00:06:28 Hey, Rashia, I get paid Friday. I need $500 worth of five T's for my son. And I'm going to be like, okay. So that week, I'm going to go get those $500 worth of five T's for your son. So you got to think about it. I have you as a customer. I have this person as a customer, that person as a customer. And I can easily make $2,000, $2,500, $1,500 based off orders.
Starting point is 00:06:51 I'm not just grabbing items. Now I'm grabbing orders. You're not grabbing stuff hoping to sell it. Now you already have a buyer. So that became my occupation. And I just got a little bit more wiser with it. When does that come to an end? Do you get rested?
Starting point is 00:07:08 Well, yeah. Two things happened. So around like the age of like 17, we was in Dillard's and we was just Dillards back then they had, they didn't have like, they have what they call them, flow walkers, like the undercover. Yeah, yeah, the security, the undercover security people like that. But not in Dillis. They're in plain clothes, right?
Starting point is 00:07:28 Yes, but in Dillis, they have real sheriffs. Right. So I'm bagging up a big old Disney store bag full of polo men shirts and the sheriff walk up. And I see all my friends running. They didn't say, hey, like, stop because I'm down there on the rack, grabbing the stuff. And he come and he grabbed me and slapped the handcuff on my arm. And he started chasing them. Did you think I was going to stand there with the handcuffs on my arm?
Starting point is 00:07:57 No, I jetted out the other, through the mall interest, ran outside to somebody. And I was like, please, can you please help me? Like, I'm running for my boyfriend. Like, I need help. And she let me use her phone. And I called my ride. And I got away with the police handcuffs. How'd you get them all?
Starting point is 00:08:13 Oh, God, it was a hassle. I went to the projects, West Hamper Projects. And the men, they was able to, first they was drilling it. they was drilling it and then somebody end up bringing the key after drilling it for so long I was like oh my God
Starting point is 00:08:29 blood circulation is getting cut off it was just getting tighter because they didn't put the lock on the handcuffs because I ran after that like I said I got six sisters majority of all of us
Starting point is 00:08:42 look similar so I started I'm the third youngest so I end up like I got to make money but I also don't want to go to jail Right. Now I got introduced to another life, the club life.
Starting point is 00:08:57 So now at 17, barely 18, not 18 yet, I used my sister fake ID, and I became a dancer. I worked on Alamo Drive at Diamond Strip Club for a while. It wasn't a new club because I guess, like, new clubs, you make more money, but they don't solve alcohol, but you got the people they want to drink. But get drunk first. and I worked there for a little while and I end up getting into a fight with one of the girls about my customer
Starting point is 00:09:26 because we don't play that in strip clubs if I have a customer coming in to see me he's coming to see me and he needs to only see me unless he asks me and at this time my customer that I had he was like they know girls know like they know if you got a good customer
Starting point is 00:09:43 who coming in they watch you they watch your pockets and I went to the bathroom when I came out and she was talking to my customer And, no, I didn't agree with that. And we end up getting into altercation, and I got fired, not her. So then what? I did it all. So from probably all the way up to age 21, we're going to say 21.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I used to go to, like, Daytona Beach, Florida, Black College reunion. And, you know, I was in the club life. So, I mean, I'm a female. So I started, you know, having sex. with men for money, you know, protected, condoms always. And I did that for a while, but I didn't want to degrade myself anymore. So it was just like, I got to come up with something. Like, I got to do something.
Starting point is 00:10:33 And it was always, like, I don't want to live. I don't want to raise my kids, how I was raised. So it was always that hunger in me type to, like, like, just get it. Like, you got to survive. So it's like I pretty much just did everything. Like, I called myself at one point trying to be a little dealer. But that didn't work for me. That's not my line to work.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Did you get arrested or you just got ripped off? It's just, that's not for me. Like, I don't. It's just too much. It's not comfortable. It's not, I ain't going to say it's not for women because Griselia did it, but it's just not for me. And I just was like. just anything that had a quick come up, a quick come up.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Count me in. My girls will say, hey, they got Memorial Weekend down in Miami. It's going to be popping. Is it going to be some money there? Yeah. Memorial weekend. I can go down there and make probably $5,000, just in one weekend. I mean, doing what?
Starting point is 00:11:43 This is prostitution. Okay. it's it's it's exchanging favors but that you're saying that didn't work out like at some point you're like I just I'm not doing this anymore it's a scary occupation like it's scary like for like I'm not going to knock people like hustle but that's always a scary occupation because you never know what type of diseases someone may have condoms break right and it's scary and I'm not no it's a occupation. I couldn't. I got two kids now. Like, no, I can't do that. So what are you going to do for money? If you, you know, it's not going to be drug dealing. Prostitution's out.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Prostitution's out. So guess what's next? More boosting? Nope. Scamming. Scaming in what way? Okay. So there's lots of scams. It's a lot of scams. So this particular scam, um, back in 2000 and six maybe it's like 2006 there was a guy that a friend of mine end up meeting in Miami you're talking Miami Miami was the town the the city for scam and all type of scam from mortgage scams from tax scams before it even became big in Tampa but these people down there they're making checks they're making travelers checks they're making still to this day probably identifications and everything else and so on, so on.
Starting point is 00:13:17 So the guy introduced me to travelers' checks. Well, who's the guy? Like this is some guy you know that you can see he's making money. You say, what are you doing? So back then, you know, we got MySpace and we got Facebook. All it takes is somebody to be on their profile picture holding up money. And it attract attention of money-hungering female, money-hungry female. So my friend end up befriending this guy in Miami.
Starting point is 00:13:46 So she started going to Miami bringing back these travelers checks. She said, hey, he taught me how to go in the store, give them the travelers checks, buy something, and they give you cash back. I'm like, from a check, why would they give you cash back? Like, you got to show ID. She said, you got to show ID, but the signature on the check is your ID because I guess when you purchase a check regular, like, not the illegal
Starting point is 00:14:16 way. When you purchase them, you sign it right then. So that's your identification. Okay. These checks were made. So, of course, you put whatever signature on there. So he was give, he had give her these two, I think they was,
Starting point is 00:14:34 he had $100 checks and $250 checks. And off a $100 check, she brought him back, I think, half, 50 on each check. And then on a 250 check, he got 100. Like, the bigger to check, like, it was like a deal. So I'm like, how much you making? And she was saying how much she was making, which was a couple thousand a week,
Starting point is 00:14:59 I'm like, I won't end. Is it, will I go to jail for it? She was like, well, he said, just don't let them get the check and go to the back and make a phone call. that means something is wrong but it got the hologram on the check it got everything on the check I'm like I'm not going into people stores
Starting point is 00:15:17 I'm scary so at that time I end up paying people to go in the store to bust the checks for me yeah but you're talking about a hundred dollar check you're giving him 50 bucks no you're not giving him 50 anymore when you're getting a large quantity this for her
Starting point is 00:15:34 for her that's her I don't understand women these days Like, you get a guy and the guy know a scheme or you feel like this is your boyfriend. If he say give you half of his money, you're giving half of his money. I'm not doing that. Like, I'm not, like, I don't understand, like, even the prostitution game with pimps. You go sell yourself and you give me the money. That's basically what she was doing.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I wasn't doing that. That's, if I'm committing a crime, I'm not giving you half of my money. Yes, you're producing a check. I don't want to do that. Let me purchase these checks. You give me one fee on how much. $5,000 worth of travelers checks is, and that's what I give you bet. I'll give you $1,000 for $5,000.
Starting point is 00:16:15 And then if I make $4,000, that's money's all mine. Right, right. So that's what I did. Okay. And so then you've got, and then what, you go out, you find people like, hey, take this check, go in there, buy something for $10? Yes, but it was like, I just knew a lot of people, so I didn't have to really find them. Everybody wanted it in. It's like when you start getting money, everybody see that you have money.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Right. So now I'm riding around and I got a brand new Cadillac CTS and they're like, well, whoa, how do you get that Cadillac CTS? Then I end up buying me a, keep in mind, I'm just this little girl from the project. Then now I'm riding around in the BMW I-323, the little small old BMWs. And it's like from making this money from these traveler checks. So everybody want to be a part of it. Even if you're just paying them $20 off a check, they want a part of that money that they're not going to ever see. in their life because they don't do anything
Starting point is 00:17:10 but sit around in the projects. How long does this last? This don't last that long, but now I have that hunger to keep getting more money. And that's what introduced me to scamming because that's a part of scamming. Now...
Starting point is 00:17:28 The highest recidivism rates is fraudsters. Right. Yeah. This is high, if not higher, I think it's higher than drug, drug dealers or drug crimes. Right. You know, the lowest is murder.
Starting point is 00:17:42 What? The lowest is murder. They almost never murder again. Once you let them out, they're like, I'm not going back to prison. Right, right, right. Keep my cool. So now you know you want to do this. What did the guy disappear?
Starting point is 00:17:57 I think he ended up going to jail because his phone started going straight to voicemail and then eventually it just cut off. And when you're in a business like that and you meet and people out of town, people don't never give you their real name. So it's like I can't Google them and pull him up and see if he in jail because I don't even know his real name. Right. I just know the name that he gave me or the name that's on Facebook or and that's it. So I feel like he probably went to jail because it was going to voicemail and then it just was completely turned off.
Starting point is 00:18:21 So they probably got him. He was the actual maker of the check. So I can just imagine what type of crimes he received. And we're talking fags somewhere where I thought I'd never be. So what did you do next? So now it's probably 2,000. And eight, like maybe 2008. And in Tampa, you had this lady,
Starting point is 00:18:50 and they call it self-employment where she was filing everyone tax returns. And if you got two kids, you get back like $5,000. And each year you get the same thing. Well, it go up from the earn income credit. So like if I owned a restaurant and I'm just, I clean. that self-employment, so you're going to pay me in cash.
Starting point is 00:19:11 There was no way for the government at the time to know if you're lying on that W-2 form or whatever the form was that was being filed, 10-40. Yes, 10-40. That's exactly what it was. It was no way for them to see that you're lying because how are you going to tell me that I'm not making $15,000 cleaning?
Starting point is 00:19:30 Because at this time, we didn't have to send in, what was it, a form, ABC, one of them go to the IRS, one, go to the employers, Yeah, the employer is filing one with the IRS, giving you one, filing one with their taxes. Yes, yes. So we're not doing that. We're just electronically filing them, the lady at the time. And that's spreading throughout the projects where people are knowing, hey, I got three kids, I can get back.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Oh, you got the kids. You got people with three kids. You only getting money back from two kids. But that third child, they're selling that child for like $1,000. Right. Because you're getting the money from the earn income credit. Telling the social security number. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Not the kid. Yes, the social security. Well, yeah, selling it. Yeah. So we're doing that. Like, every year I got this guarantee $5,000. And I'm like, that's a lot of money for me because, you know, I'm not an addict or anything. So I get my little side hustles.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I got my little man. I ain't going to call them pen pals because we're not in prison. But we called them tricks at the time. Where you get the little older man, just take care of you for your rent, take a mile. I'll probably do a little something here and there, but you're good. So I was good. I had a sheriff. I had a sheriff.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Okay. Yeah, so I had my sheriff. I get my little taxes. My sheriff gave me my little allowance every week, a couple hundred dollars. And I'm okay. But it wasn't enough for me because this lady is getting paid. I think we're paying her $1,000 out of $5,000. But she messed up.
Starting point is 00:21:07 She gave us our packet that had our sign-in information on there from TurboTax. I'm like, hold on. I got on there with the read in every form she did. And then I filed somebody. And I got the money. I'm like, oh, okay. So what do you do? You just go to like a friend of a friend or just some friend and say, listen.
Starting point is 00:21:32 It's a word of mouth. It's Tampa. You're talking fraud is becoming, that moved from Miami, Atlanta, California. Like, it's just word of mouth. Just like the drug game, when you find the plug, it's just worried a mouth. And she was doing everybody.
Starting point is 00:21:53 You're talking a lady out of the projects riding around in the range rover type stuff. You know, it's just stupid. So everybody know. But for her to give us, you know, the game is to be sold not told you put the game in my hand because you was so she thought she had she had the she had the market cornered she didn't think anybody's going to come out and come in and take it from her yes so I'm with the reading keep a mind
Starting point is 00:22:21 I'm reading all this with my seventh grade education level and I'm like okay yes no no let me do a fake one on my so I asked my sister I'm like hey can I file you for self-employment She was like, I ain't going to go to jail, am I? I'm like, no, I've been doing it for years. I ain't in jail. Like, the lady's been filing me, you know. And I did it. And the money came back.
Starting point is 00:22:45 So I told all my friends, like, we don't got to go through her no more. Y'all just give me $500 because she's charging $1,000. Right. It was over. I started doing the self-employment. But you're only, to me, when you're doing that, you're, there's a, there's only like maybe, three months out of the year that you can do that.
Starting point is 00:23:07 You have October, is it, no, that's where people get it confused at. Through the store, you have like January to April. Electronically, you have to October, all the way to October. So you're talking October. So you're filing like for the following, the previous year, you're saying? You're filing the previous year. So you got October, November, December, January. It's just four months of no filing.
Starting point is 00:23:30 It's eight months of file. Electronically. So what are you doing during those months? The whole eight months. The whole eight months, you're filing all. You can file electronically at the time. Now, we're talking 2000 and bad dead. You can file electronically online, but when you go to a store, you know how they have the date.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Like you got to have your taxes filed by April 15th. Yeah, do the store. But electronically, you don't have to. Okay. And you can always mail the paperwork in. Like, you can mail it in. And they release the money. What are they doing? Are they putting it on a debit card?
Starting point is 00:24:06 They're putting it on debit cards or direct deposit. At this time in 2006, nobody not knowing about debit cards. We know about the TurboTax debit cards because they're coming straight off the site. But now as the fraud progress, they advertise in H&I block cards, green dot cards, tax act cards. Like all of these different sites are coming with cards. But with those cards, it's coming. with a routing number and an account number. And at this time, the IRS isn't putting two and two together, right?
Starting point is 00:24:39 Because I know now, like, if you try and give them a green dot card or something, they're like, no, we have to have like a national bank or we have to have certain banks and there's certain cards they won't deposit it on. But I know that took five, six, seven, eight years of doing this before they finally said, no, no. And then they start putting out the pin numbers. And then they, so this time, you're saying whatever you sent them, they're going through. They're putting it on it. I can put you, I'm Rishia Wilson. I can put Matthew Cox tax return on Rishia Wilson's prepaid turbo tax card. And they'll send it to you.
Starting point is 00:25:15 And they will send it to you. So you're thinking, think about it. I'm getting 50, 60, 70,000 loaded onto a card. Even though you don't have my real, you don't even have my real information. You don't have my real taxes even. No, but I have your social. Now, you can't play with the IRS. The social definitely got a red.
Starting point is 00:25:32 matched their birthday and everything like that. Right. But you're giving me permission. I'm not stealing your identification. Right. You're giving me permission because we're talking self-employment at the time. Like, you're giving it to me because you're paying me $500. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:48 I'm not getting paid the big money yet. But these people are never even filing their own taxes. They're never filing the taxes. Because they're already living like in the projects. They're not really claiming any money anyway. Right. So imagine driving down the street. in a homeless person. Hey, let me get your information. I'm going to give you $500 because
Starting point is 00:26:06 now I have to put the kids on there. I have to do all of that. So I'm going to give you $500 because you're only getting the money for real for the earned income credit. Right. Which is the kids. But I got to pay this person for the kid, this person for the kids. The most people were selling their kids for our scene was $1,200. But of course, when you somebody in the projects that has like eight kids, here you can get it for $500. But I'm getting like maybe $2,000 per child. Right. Because it was like $5,500 at the most that you was getting off self-employment.
Starting point is 00:26:40 And then I got a homeless guy on the thing. You got $500. I'm paying the kids. So that's a total of probably, I'm going to say $1,500. Right. And you're getting $5,000 back. I'm getting $3,500 back, yes. So how, so I mean, at some point that is it, is it always, do you continue
Starting point is 00:27:01 to do it connected with the kids or at some point, because I knew guys, it wasn't the kids. They start taking all kinds of tax credits and they're just saying, hey, you made this much. Actually, they started doing it with W2, saying the guy had paid in $14,000, the IRS, you owe him. But he's got two kids or he's, you know, whatever, you owe him $7,000. They just cutting him checks for $7,000, $8,000, $4,000. Right. So back in 2006, 7, 8, around this time, self-employment was what was popping.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Right. Okay. You have to have kids in order for the money because you're not getting paid for your earned income credit, which is for the kids. Right. Because the self-employment, they're not really taking out taxes. Right, that you can't tell them, hey, I paid you guys $20,000 in taxes last year.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I need $12,000 back. because you didn't pay them shit. Exactly. But you can't make that much. You couldn't make over 15,000. Okay. So 20,000, you probably only was going to get back 3,000 with two kids. You can't make more than 15 to 16,000.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Self-employed. Self-employed. Now, every scheme come to an end. Now with self-employment, now we're talking 2008. I'm going to say eight. They want you to send in all these papers. want proof of kids. They want this. So it's like, well, okay. They're coming out with the pen numbers where you got to put the
Starting point is 00:28:35 four-digit pen and I'm like, okay, well, that's that's drying up. That's drying up. Every scheme come to an end. Hey, you can get $7,500 back for a first-time home buyer. I'm like, what's that? A friend of mine said, they said, get on there and they told me how to do it. Now we're getting $7,500 back for first-time homebuyers. So you got all those information from these previous years that you filed. So what we're going to do now? We're going to file all these
Starting point is 00:29:06 homeless people for first-time homebuyer. And they was releasing the money. We don't need no kids. We won't even got to pay nobody. So the $7,500 is all yours. I was thinking of the homeless people. So I used to survey homeless people.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Only I would give them, I'd give them like 25 bucks. I get like, you know what I'm saying? Like 20 bucks. I'd be like, I'm I told them I made a little statistical survey form for the first surveys and I walk around I say hey would you mind taking a survey we're trying to determine where we placed our next homeless facility I made a little badge that said statistical surveyor and they'd be like was it no I'm not interested I go I bet pays 20 bucks cash right now you can give me 20 bucks right now you're right now and they do it oh of course they give me all their information I'd be like here's a 20 bucks see and I'd go order their
Starting point is 00:29:53 birth certificate or their social security card order their high school transcripts I'd make it the lease in their name, go in the DMV, get a driver's license in their name. So I was thinking, you're paying them 500 bucks. Like, you're, you're being extremely generous. That's a horrible thing to say. But 500 bucks, bro. Like, I mean, because they didn't keep in mind too. The great thing about that is, for me, they didn't know they just got scammed.
Starting point is 00:30:16 They think, I'm just taking a survey for $20. This guy's a statistical surveyor. And they would give me the information. And they, and they just think, oh, I just filled out a survey. And so somebody asked them two years later, hey, how did this guy get your They have no clue. Right. But we go, you're like, man, that was that chick.
Starting point is 00:30:32 She gave me 500 bucks. They're going to remember $500. Nobody's handing out $500. But yeah. But it's like the homeless people in, like, I don't know, I hate to say this, but I've never seen a, I never seen it. I mean, I'm sure it's possible where a homeless person can clean up, but I really never seen a homeless person clean up. In the comment section, when I tell my story, in the comment section, I can't tell you how many people are like, like, that poor guy, you ruined his credit.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Because listen, I borrow like a million dollars in these guys' names. I'd get a million, two million dollars. I borrow five mortgages. I get personal loans. I get a 40, 50,000 in personal loans. Like, I just, but, and guys are always like, what if he cleans his life up? But stop it, bro. He's not cleaning his life up.
Starting point is 00:31:18 The guy's schizophrenic or he's an alcoholic. You could even ask him. One of my questions was, when was the last time you were gainfully employed over working a full-time job, and they were like, God, like eight, ten years ago. And then I'd ask them, do you believe within the next two years you will be gainfully employed? I never had one guy say yes. You know what they would do? They go, they look around and they go, nah, bro, this is it for me.
Starting point is 00:31:45 That's what I'm saying. So why do we get so much time when it comes to? Like, yeah, well, they were victo. They're all, I got a list of victims. But I give this guy. Did I give them $20? We have them. I'm doing your favor.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Right. I said people helping people. Right. You gave him 25. The judge didn't see it like that, by the way. Why? He was very disappointing. We just bought them some clothes.
Starting point is 00:32:07 You bought him some water, a meal. I don't bought some clothes. Like, but. I think he went and bought it. They probably went and bought a six-pack and, you know. Right. Right. 500 bucks, you probably, this guy's might have OD.
Starting point is 00:32:21 God knows, you might be my flatties out there. Oh, God. I probably killed somebody, right? so so what so you've got it now you're doing the um first time home buyer yes i mean do you are you slowly becoming better and better at well one you said they it slowly started dry up because they start figuring it out but two are you getting better and better at understanding how the how filing taxes works i'm getting better at learning new schemes right because i'm just getting on the computer
Starting point is 00:32:57 pushing the number in and it's saying your refund would be direct deposited on Wednesday I'm like oh so I'm just every day 24 hours
Starting point is 00:33:09 So if it says that there's an issue Are you going back and altering things Just try and make it say that Yes if it says Reject it because the social don't match There was ways I had a few connections Like when I say connections
Starting point is 00:33:23 connections, IRS workers, DMV workers, postal workers, I had connections. So I was able to go in or speak to my people to get the, make sure I didn't do nothing wrong or is there a letter off or is there a number off or something? Because it'll be like, the social don't match the name. Well, dang, it was matching, like, or this is the information that I have. be something that was wrong and I'll go back in and fix it. If
Starting point is 00:33:56 I couldn't fix it, I couldn't fix it. But you know how many student loans I paid? Do you know how many child supports I paid? I'm filing people that has child support and it'd be like due to child support fines or payment. Like the whole refund was getting taken. But it's part of the game.
Starting point is 00:34:17 So I help somebody again like and I still. You're doing God's work. I listen I would get the guy's stuff and go into the team well I'd order their I'd order their um like their driving record right and get it and they'd be $600 they'd have an unpaid ticket from like four years ago for $600 I'd go pay the ticket I got to get a driver's license in the guy's name right I had one guy Gary Sullivan people know this name that because I borrowed like $1.3 million in his name um Gary Sullivan had roughly probably 20,000 in medical debt. When I pulled his credit, I was like, fuck. So I negotiated. I paid it all off. I don't know what I, I don't know if I got for 10 or 15,000, but I paid like 15 grand to pay off his medical. But it was affecting my ability to get him a mortgage. Right. You know, that granted, I did run his debt up to, you know, over a million dollars. But still, I did pay off the medical, you know, he could have cleaned that up. He could have seen, yeah. But you helped him out. I mean, he seemed happy. Right. You don't got to pay. It didn't want my sentencing. So he didn't testify. No, he didn't say anything. I've never heard from him.
Starting point is 00:35:28 As it's getting, as you're learning more and more, are you making more and more? Or you're just getting, and at this point, too, people are now, like, telling their, telling other people. You and their friend? Go to her. You want to 500 bucks right now? Oh, no. Price is different now. So now, we're talking 2008, going into 2009.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I'm doing this fraud. Everybody want a piece of the money. Once again, it don't even matter. Okay, well, put me down as a first time homebuyer, too. So I'm doing all of those things. I'm getting people back. I forgot at that time how much was I charging them when it's their name, because I know eventually you're going to owe.
Starting point is 00:36:13 You're going to owe for this homebuyer. You're not going to owe for the other stuff. So I thought, well, I don't think nobody owed, but that, I think I was, I didn't make, I made a lot, but I didn't, it wasn't where I profit a lot of each return. You know what I mean? Like, versus I can do the self-employment, pay out 1,500, make 35. Because these people are real people and they're going to end up owing. So I think I was probably getting 2,000 maybe and giving them 5,500, because it was 7,500 at the time.
Starting point is 00:36:44 But I was okay with that. All right. Because you got the real people and you got all those people. that I already filed, like the homeless people. So I was good. I'm great. It ain't no more stealing no clothes. It ain't no more selling my body.
Starting point is 00:36:59 It ain't no more and none of that. We enter in 2009. Now I got to do something different. I'm going to open up me a business. Wait. Wait a minute. You said 2029. No, 2009.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Oh, okay. I thought she said 29, right? 2000. Okay, 2009. 2009 so now you're going to open a business so now I'm going to open up me a business which I did tax preparer nope I opened up a business first lady entertainment okay so now I'm making what's that what is that business so first lady entertainment was a company it was a promotion company a club not promotion company like a club promotion
Starting point is 00:37:44 Yeah, I'm going to call it that. Where in 2009, I started renting out venues, like little kids venues, like a building. Like, I ran it out the armory before, like, any, like, big event hall. Right. And I'll get a little DJ. Pay them, like, $150, get some flyers made, and I'll do these teen events where we have these teen dances. I sell waters. I'll sell sodas.
Starting point is 00:38:14 we're talking, it's hot, they're dancing. $3 a water. And I got the teams coming in and they're paying $10 each kid. So if you got 500 kids in there for this weekend, that's $5,000. Yeah. And you paid a, how would you pay the venue,
Starting point is 00:38:32 a thousand bucks, $200 of this guy? Sometimes it's not even $1,000. It's just depend on where I'm doing it. I have paid $1,000, DJ, $250, $250, $100. let's say I'm spending no more than $1,500. And then I pack 500 kids in there, $10 a kid. This is just the emission. Right, plus the water.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Plus the water. So just not even including the water. So if I got 500 kids, that's $5,000. If I got 700 kids, that's what? $7,000. I'm making this every weekend. And I'm scheming. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:06 So I'm slowly like becoming, very, very, very successful. And I opened up this business when I started doing the kids. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Back in 2000, I was this female that just wanted to be in front of these celebrities,
Starting point is 00:39:28 like a groupie. That's what they call them groupies. I got the money to pay them now. Let me see if I can pack a club. So then I started using my money and investing in real arties. like real rappers like real paying them paying the club depending on what club if it's a club if it's a club night it just depends on what club i started paying the club i started paying the
Starting point is 00:39:55 club i started paying the artist and i was making now i'm up to probably $30,000 every show 30 to 40 to 50 my successful event that i did which i bought the rapper applies i made 100 11,000 and one night. You got to talk to Ian Bick. Who that? Ian Bick has a podcast. He went to prison for club promotions. It turned into a Ponzi scheme, you know, where he was, because he had rented the venue,
Starting point is 00:40:29 had all these people that are supposed to come, and then it got snowed out, right? This was up in Connecticut, it got snowed out. So then what he does is he doesn't have the money now. so he goes to several of his friends and their parents are like they know he's been doing this making good money so they give him money to rent the venue out and do all the advertising and it gets snowed out and so now he owes them but he or he packs it but it was snowed out and it didn't quite he didn't have as many people and so they he should have made this much money but he really barely barely broke in doesn't even have the money to pay them back and he told no no we had this many people we're good
Starting point is 00:41:11 and gave them some money and said, do you want to roll that money over it in the next one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so you owe me 80. Yeah, yeah. Truth is, they gave him 20 or 30. He didn't even have that anymore. Wow.
Starting point is 00:41:22 It got to a point where he, I think it's, is it like over, it's over a million dollars he lost. He went to, you got to do his podcast. He's got a great podcast. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I might look into that. I'll get you his number. He's got a good podcast. So I did that. I'm doing my business. and now nothing goes wrong nothing goes wrong with my business no I'm successful like when you see First Lady entertainment on the flyer
Starting point is 00:41:51 from St. Petersburg, Orlando, Tampa, Clearwater, Bradenton, Brooksville, they're coming to my event because at my event you know who's going to be out there the fire marshals because it's packed and where there's a crowd, there's men, there's women, and there's money. So these aren't these are teens anymore. No, I'm doing teens on some weekends,
Starting point is 00:42:18 but that's just summer and I don't want to play with these teens. They want to fight. They want to shoot. They want to, no, I had to go to the big leagues because I was just that female that wanted to, would die to be on the stage with a celebrity. And now I'm up here with the celebrities. Like, I brought you here and I'm making money.
Starting point is 00:42:39 So it was just like, wow, like, this 2009, like, I can't believe, like, I'm really, I don't prostituted, I don't stole, I done, I don't did everything. Yeah, it's a rags the richest story. Rags the riches. But you got to stop doing the illegal stuff. I couldn't. I couldn't. Like I said, you put a steak in front of a dog that's full what that dog going to do.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Still going to bite that steak because it's there and it's free. And we think of it, you go spend 50 grand a day. Dang, I need to make that 50,000 right back. So if you can just push two buttons and make the 50,000 right back, you're going to skim. Because the club money, you got to wait. You got to advertise for six weeks. It's a lot of work. You got to, yeah, you got to invest to make the money.
Starting point is 00:43:31 And it can be like your guy. Yes, it can be like your guy where it can get snowed out or it can rain or Florida, a hurricane. Yes. So it's risky. So in the mix of those six weeks, I have to make money. I'm spending money. I'm radio. We're doing commercial.
Starting point is 00:43:49 We're doing flyers. So you got to make money. Now, hey, dividends is in. You push this number in. I'm putting the dividends in. And they say, look, I'm getting $6,000 just playing with these numbers. Well, where do you get the figures from? A friend of mine said,
Starting point is 00:44:10 know you're probably like, well, who told you, a friend, this Tampa. Everybody's trying something new. Every time one scheme dry up, they just start in something new on the same site, same turbo, same tax tax, tax slayer, H&R block tax, anything that has to do with taxes, Tampa. Now I'm just playing with the numbers. I don't even know what I'm putting in. I don't know the percentages. this seventh grade education level. I don't know shit.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I'm just putting the numbers in. Your refund would be direct deposited. I'm like, for $9,000? Hell no. Friday, I'm getting $100,000 dropped on one card. I'm like, $100,000 on this card. $100,000 on that card. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:45:04 So I have a question. Are you the only one doing this? I mean, don't you have, do you have anybody else helping you? Or they just bringing you numbers? I don't have anyone helping me. I did everything on my own. There's people that's doing their own thing. They ain't helping me.
Starting point is 00:45:22 They're helping themselves. So they did their own fraud for themselves. But you know who they are and they know who you are. They know who I am. I know who they are. Everybody, we're talking Tampa. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if the sheriff that I was dating wasn't doing fraud.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Everybody's doing fraud. Like, everybody. Doctors. It's fraud when you're printing out ledgers of names and selling it to me for $2,000, right? Everybody wanted a piece of the money. Everybody. Grandmaws. Grandadies.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Everybody wanted a piece of the money. So, I mean, I'm assuming you're not living in the projects. I never lived in the projects when I've been. became 18. Okay. No, I had my own place at 17. I lived in the projects growing up. I never lived.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Remember, I never wanted to raise my kids how I was raised? Right. I never had, I never lived in the projects. So where were you living? In 2009, I have, I'm living in a house and I'm in the middle of purchasing my first house. I was waiting on it to get done. First house in Barrico, Florida, three bedrooms. two-car garage, upstairs, downstairs, pool.
Starting point is 00:46:40 A little girl out the hood, seventh grade education level, mama on crack, daddy probably on crack, I don't know. I got a house with a pool, you know? No, I understand. A house with a pool, like, that's big coming from the project. Any house with a pool, it can be a little shack. But when you got a house with a pool, oh, that's big. How are you financing the house, though?
Starting point is 00:47:04 Like, because you can't walk in with all cash. No, it's Tampa. Everybody is doing fraud. So if I am a, one of, my first house was from a club owner. I'm coming in there. I'm making all of this money. He know I'm making this money. Not everybody knew about my, my illegal part of my life because I'm first lady.
Starting point is 00:47:29 I have a job. I have this company. You're calling me now because my name is. so big and these clubs are pat when my name is on a flyer. I want this girl at my club because my bar is going to do numbers. So he...
Starting point is 00:47:44 He was a realtor. Okay. As well. He ain't asking me no questions. I'm buying the house from him. We're not going through the bank or anything. Okay. I'm going through him.
Starting point is 00:47:54 We're able to... He's doing like owner financing the house for you. You put down like cash down? My first house, I put 40,000 cash down. 40,000 cash down. down. And the house that he was selling me, which he was ripping me off, it was at, but keep in mind, I don't care because it's free money. It's free money. And I got my own house, mine, not yours, but mine. And he was doing a rent to own. Right. Yeah. So each rent was going towards the, the price of the $200,000 that he was charging me with the $40,000. But I'm not giving you
Starting point is 00:48:33 $1,000 rent a month. I'm giving you like 10, 20, like I'm paying off the 200. Yeah, it's paid off in a year or two. Yeah, not even a year or two within a few months. It would have, well, yeah, it would have been. But this 2009, dividends went to railroad. We started doing retirement. It just every year, it's just something different.
Starting point is 00:49:00 It starts burning hot. We're from 2009 to 2010. It's 2010 now. I went, I go get my body done. First Lady Entertainment is on the rise. What is that being your body done? I went and got my breasts done, you know, just the female stuff, you know, LIPO, tummy tuck.
Starting point is 00:49:28 I'm dating NFL players. I'm just like, oh, okay. I like this life but with that fast life every time you spend 100,000 you want that 100,000 back I got probably
Starting point is 00:49:42 $40,000 on my neck I got like just living the life I'm riding around in that 550 an X5 a Lexus truck
Starting point is 00:49:55 I'm just like I like this life but it's an expensive lifestyle did you ever get robbed I mean keep in mind the people you're dealing with. Yes, I did get robbed at one time, in 2000?
Starting point is 00:50:10 Just like a home invasion? Nine or ten. Yes, I actually, my door got kicked in and guys had, I feel like it was a hit, meaning a friend of mine set me up. It's checking me what it is. Yeah, because the guy that, the guys that robbed me, you can tell that they didn't want to put hands on me. like one of the guys slapped me
Starting point is 00:50:33 and when the police came I couldn't even tell the police which lie he slapped me him you know what I mean like I couldn't it wasn't as brutal they didn't yanky around they didn't say
Starting point is 00:50:43 I mean that's typical let me play it off and yank her around but they didn't like beat me and they didn't get nothing I would have you know they had a shotgun they made
Starting point is 00:50:54 it was me and my kids we was in a room my friend one of my home girls was on the couch in the living room and my dad he had came came home from prison and he was living with me.
Starting point is 00:51:04 And I just, I heard the door kick in, boom. And I'm like, but in my room, I had a, I had a back door to my room so I can easily run out my back door, but I'm scared of frogs and I'm scared of snakes and I'm scared of raccoons. And they used to be back there. So it was like, I'm not running out this dough and I'm not going to leave my kids. But when I heard the boom, I heard a tussle. my dad shot past the man to hurry up and call
Starting point is 00:51:32 to use the phone because he wasn't going to be able to call the police right then because they was running in everybody, it was like everybody heard the boom. It wasn't like a boom. It was a boom.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And I was like, but by that time, they already came and kicked in my, when I heard the boom, I got up and locked my room door. I mean, but of course they're going to kick it in. So they kicked in my door. My two kids was in a bed with me.
Starting point is 00:51:56 I got two kids at the time. and two of the guys came in, it was a total of, I think, four guys because one had my friend by the hair, she was on the front room. Two was in my room, and another one must was maybe searching for my dad or searching the house because it was a total of four of them. So then they stood there. They even had a bit, they have the nerve to break a shotgun. So you're really going to shoot me with a shotgun.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Like, you got to not just, you know, and they had the shotgun to me and my kids. It was like, where's the money? I'm like, what money? This before the diamonds. This, the big gold chains. Like, this before, this, because we're talking 2009, 2010 is when I got the diamonds. And I'm not, and I only have a, I have an X-5 and a Lexus truck right now,
Starting point is 00:52:45 but I got the X-5 painted like the men used to do with the dub, floaters, the rims that spin, the color of the car. The interior is done, black and teal. Like, I mean, if I was them, I'd try to. rob me, too. I'm doing too much. And... Did you not have cash? No, I'm not going to have cash. Like, I'm not...
Starting point is 00:53:06 That's just stupid. Like, we... I'm from the hood. Like, I'm not going to... You hear stories. I'm not going to have no safe in my house. I'm not... I didn't have it. I have safes. But they're in there my house. You know? Right. And I didn't have cash. I probably had like
Starting point is 00:53:21 $600 in cash and some gold jury. Like, they took the purse. They ended up, I never stayed in the hood when I came up. Only growing up I lived in the project. So in this community that I lived in, I lived around a lot of older people. It was a lot of white people.
Starting point is 00:53:42 I ain't going to say it was a retired community, but it was a lot of older people, you know, the ones that sit on the porch and watch everything. They need to get going. Yes. So when they heard that, I guess, from the officer's report,
Starting point is 00:53:54 when they kicked in my door within, I promise you within, they must have to be sitting in the car already before they kicked in the door. As soon as they kicked in the door the helicopter was flying over the house, like they didn't have no time in the house at all. So those
Starting point is 00:54:10 people, which they did state, they knew that it was something suspicious going on because they had this black van in the road down the street. So the people had called the police already. So while they're on their way, they was one second away from going to jail. The
Starting point is 00:54:26 Poli, they left their van. They couldn't even run back to their van. They dropped the keys. It was so dark. They dropped the keys. They're running the woods and just got away. They got away. They had to split up. You got my dad ran out the front door called the police, but the police was already on the way.
Starting point is 00:54:43 So it's multiple police now. You got more than one call. But they are already there. As soon as the door got kicked in, you can hear the helicopter. The guys got away because on that street, it was really no lights. No lights. They got away But these fools
Starting point is 00:54:59 Was in their mother band How I found out The detectives Right And one of the guys didn't have on a mask And when the detectives came My son was like Mom, that's that man
Starting point is 00:55:13 That had that big shotgun So my son was able to Point out the guy From the lineup, the same guy And one of the guys I ain't going to elaborate too much on this, but my friend
Starting point is 00:55:30 boyfriend his last name was the last name to the van. Okay. The brothers, he have brothers that lives in Lakeland, Florida. The van was from Lakeland. The last name matches the vans
Starting point is 00:55:52 and the people that robbed me was from Lakeland, Florida, from the lineup. Same last name as him. So eventually they grabbed him, but were they prosecuted, they dropped? Eventually they grabbed him
Starting point is 00:56:06 and they came back for me. They rode back on my street. One day I was coming from the club, the casino, and they was riding up my street and I saw him. And I called.
Starting point is 00:56:19 I called the police. So I was driving down the street, And I was going up one way. It was like a two-lane street, but it was so small. Like, cars are like, they be so close. Like, you can't bust a U-turn in the street. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Because it's so small and narrow. And I see this, this, like, a F-150 or, like, it was a pickup, a truck with these guys in there. And they were just looking. And I'm like, one of those. Those got, that guy is like, you know how you can just, they had a, they had a, a lineup of a whole bunch of men. Right. And one of the men was in that truck, but the other guy was in jail. One of the guys went to jail.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Right. The guy that we was able to point out from the lineup, he went to jail because it's his mother truck that everything just matched it with the lineup. Right. And he was fighting a home invasion, which carried like, what, 25 times? life. It can. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, God, that was a warning. Like, you go testify on my people, your ass is gone. And this might sound stupid because at the end of the day, like, they did come in my house. They did violate me. They did violate my kids. Like, I'm sure that my kids remember that because my son was like, yeah, this is the guy that had the shotgun. He was only like,
Starting point is 00:57:55 seven maybe at the time. I just didn't feel right going to court. Like taking somebody life away from them for 25 years to life when, yes, they home invaded me, but they didn't harm me. Because the guy that slapped me, I knew that it was a hit. And I knew exactly who it was. And guess what? Karma, because he's doing 30 years now. so it's ways like it's always like I didn't go to court but they still got their karma
Starting point is 00:58:27 and I didn't have to worry about nobody coming back harming my family or harming me but they left me alone they didn't get nothing I didn't get nothing I didn't have no bruises they took probably five six I don't even remember it was some chump change and that was the only time I got invaded and I hate to say this but I'm happy that it happened then then the following year when I really was up when I'm rocking diamonds when I'm living lavish like that was me on the rise like I'm spending money I'm making money but I'm not a millionaire right as of yet you know so it happened and I didn't go to court and the brother that I know who actually did the hit he's doing 30 years right now for home evasion
Starting point is 00:59:15 or something else I don't know I never I didn't even it happened since I've been in prison so I didn't I didn't care. I just asked someone like where he at. And it was like, oh, he up the road doing 30 years. I'm like, oh, okay, cool. So what happened at, I mean, does the, the first-time home buyer, then you said the retirees, retirement benefit or the railroad? The railroad, the retirement.
Starting point is 00:59:48 So now we're in 2000. 11 2011 What's the I Longbendy Twizzlers Candy keeps the fun going Keep the fun
Starting point is 01:00:05 Going Twizzlers Keep the fun going I be the form it got an eye on there it's another form on the turbotext
Starting point is 01:00:27 site and now we have W-2s on the turbotect site okay so now it's 2010 and we're doing like it's just always
Starting point is 01:00:40 worried of mouth everything is always word of mouth and we done did the railroad we done did the dividends we done did every form there is
Starting point is 01:00:49 on turbotax, but now we haven't tried W-2. And this is how it was. Like, if you worked and you had a W-2 form, I'm going to take your numbers off that W-2. I know that you're getting, what, $9,000 with one child. So I'm going to get your numbers. I'm going to put your company on there, the same company or make-up a company with an EIA number,
Starting point is 01:01:11 which was easy to get. Put it on the form, put those numbers in, and I'm getting that tax return. And we started doing that. but it started because my friends she was doing it and she was getting back like 2000 any money that came it was a plus it was a plus so she's getting back 2000
Starting point is 01:01:32 I'm like let's try to play with these numbers if you can get 2000 we can probably get 5,000 did it the 5,000 come back if I can get 5,000 I can get 7,000 put it in it came back if we can get 7,000 let's keep it under 10 right my favorite number was 9987. So I got this
Starting point is 01:01:52 one set of numbers that brought back 9987. Put it in. I'm getting 9987 back. Loaded onto one card. I can do 10 people. Remember, I'm getting these ledgers and names from doctors, government workers. We're paying for names
Starting point is 01:02:16 probably $2,500 a page and for each identification, we're getting 9,000 of each name. So it's a win. And somebody say, like, try Ancestry.com. I'm like, what do you mean, Ancestry? They say, dead people. I said you can't file dead people because I have filed a name that was on a ledger. and it is a
Starting point is 01:02:47 this person is deceased so you can't file dead people they say you can file dead people they have to die within 30 days I'm like for real
Starting point is 01:03:03 they say you get on there though try to use uncommon last names so don't use a Wilson don't use the Cox use a uncommon last name or a Spanish last name because a lot of the people, Spanish people, they work, but a lot of them don't file taxes. I'm like, huh?
Starting point is 01:03:30 They say. So you know how they're getting notified. The IRS is getting notified because when you die and they go to embalm you or do whatever they're going to do at the funeral home, they're going to get your social security number and they file with the IRS or social security. and they tell Social Security, hey, this person died and they get the $250 death benefit
Starting point is 01:03:54 and that's how they know that you're dead. That's why it takes some time before they file that paperwork. That's probably... So they can get their $8.50. Yeah. But in the middle of them making they $250. You've got a gap period where, like,
Starting point is 01:04:08 I don't know how long they hold it. Maybe they hold it for two months or maybe, I don't know, but I know that's how they get notified. That's why I was thinking that's why sometimes you probably sometimes you could have done it years later because you're saying if they're Hispanic they're not going to file for that benefit. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:04:24 If they've never filed or if they've never paid in taxes, their family or the home or or if it was, I was assumed the government would also do it too, though. But anyway. Or when I learned or when it was taught to me
Starting point is 01:04:38 because the game is always taught. So, however, if they died within 30 days, all of the tax returns is going through. It's going through. Yeah, they've filed anything yet. Yes, yes. In the system.
Starting point is 01:04:52 So I started just filing dead people, and it was like the money was just like. And they're showing up on ancestry that quick? It's showing up on ancestry. That's, you type in, you used to type in the month. You put the last, you can search by last name. You can search by a lot of different things at the time. I haven't been on there. I don't even want to look at the site no more.
Starting point is 01:05:13 but you can put the death the death month because you know some people they're looking for their loved ones or somebody they're trying to see if they're dead so you search in the month when you think that or the year or the time frame when you think they died so I put it in 30 days always 30 days print out all those names
Starting point is 01:05:32 and put them in and they was coming back and I'm like this is unbelievable like this can't be happening like it's coming back So now we got, we're using the TurboTax cards. We're using the H&R block cards where I can get someone to go into the store.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Now, H&R block cards, you have to go in the store. So you know who I was picking up, right? Our buddies, you know, the homeless people. Oh, yeah. You know, because you have to send them to the stores. Now, now they wasn't getting $500. Now they was getting $20, $30, $40, just depending on how generous I was at the time and they have to go to the store,
Starting point is 01:06:15 they go inside H&R block, apply for a prepaid card, bring it out to me. I wasn't afraid that the new card would come to their address and anything because they don't have an address. And half of the address is I give them the address. I never activate the other card because I'm not doing credit card fraud
Starting point is 01:06:35 and I'm not going into a store that has somebody name on the card. You know the card that I use? Preferred customer. When you go in there, they give you. you the preferred customer card with the routing number and the account number, no name on the card. You know what I'm saying? So if I go in Gucci or something and they'd be like, okay, well, show me your ID. Here.
Starting point is 01:06:53 It's preferred customer. Like, it's no name on the card. I'm waiting. No way for them to verify it. Exactly, because it's legit. I got the PIN number. But I was able to do that. And I remember one time, me and my friends, we rented a van and we drove to Atlanta because Atlanta got one of the big, the biggest, like, salvation armies ever with all the homeless people out there. So I went, we got us a van. I took them to every H&R block. I got one day.
Starting point is 01:07:25 It was like a weekend. I'll send 20 of them in here at different times. Go get me a card, bring it out, got the count number, route, number. Went to Atlanta, got a whole bunch of cards, came home. Not even came home. I was there with my laptop, too, loading them up. And it was just like the money just was like I was just going to say that how much money is this scam bringing in this? This scam is bringing in oh
Starting point is 01:07:50 like that in a month a month we're talking about like 100,000 what? What is that? Chon't change? That's some change let's say half a million
Starting point is 01:08:03 probably a half a million but you got to think about it too When you're scheming or you scamming, everything comes to a stop. So if I got this H&R Block card where right now I'm getting, I can go to the ATM machine and withdraw $4,500 out in cash. That was H&R.Blob. They're going to eventually stop it or they're going to start locking the cards because now you got Cox, Wilson, Williams, Jake.
Starting point is 01:08:34 You got all these different last names direct deposit onto this one H&RN. block card, which is supposed to be just for you. So they'll block the card. So I don't have times where I got $200,000 on the card and they lock. Can't get to it. No, they lock it. And they send the money back
Starting point is 01:08:53 to the IRS. And the IRS would mail out of check. We'll get the check. Right. But who's going to deposit a check? Everybody. Car lots. It's business. Carlots was accepting the checks. Jewelers was accepting
Starting point is 01:09:10 of checks, but now they won't have for your check. So if the check's $7,000, you're getting half of the check. You know what I mean? I was just like, what about depositing? Because you know, like the PPP, not PPP, what am I saying?
Starting point is 01:09:28 You know, the the COVID thing when they were giving back money? I was in prison. Well, I mean, but you're aware of that people were getting back like 12, 1400, 1,800, like. So there were people making those government checks. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:09:42 Giving it to people. So they'll like, look, I'll give you three of them. You know, in different people's names, I'll give you three of them. I'll give you the, you keep the money for one, give me the money for the other two. And if you had a bank account, people were doing it. Like, I know guys that did it. And I'm like, what are you thinking? They're going to come for you at some point.
Starting point is 01:09:58 They're going to come. But it went years. Like, guys were like three years later. And then they'd show up for them, say, you deposited three account. Grie. agree because even with the checks
Starting point is 01:10:12 everybody was accepting the checks so the cards we can have a lot of direct depositants on the cards and they'll get blocked
Starting point is 01:10:24 because of fraud basically it's too many names and when they send the checks to the IRS the IRS mail them back to the address on the tax return
Starting point is 01:10:35 right So you'll have all of these addresses Some of the addresses we make up But we had postal service workers That'd go pick up the checks on that route And give you the checks Right And we'll take these checks to car dealers, jewelers
Starting point is 01:10:53 Like everybody just wanted a part of the scam But now we got to pay them They was doing like 70, 30 Like you get 30, they get 70 So now the game changed We need them. They ain't doing half and half. They're doing 70, 30, so they're getting bank.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Jewel is getting, jewel is getting paid, dealers getting paid. Everybody, any businesses in Tampa was getting paid. Because if we paid, y'all paid because we're going to spend the money. And we did that. Checks. We did the cards. We did. The whole Tampa just went crazy doing fraud.
Starting point is 01:11:33 But you got 16-year-olds riding around in 645s and yeah. All right. That's what the chiefs say. The chiefs say, hey, nobody wasn't going to jail for drugs no more. It was something going on in Tampa. Listen, when I was in Colbin, I remember this black guy was talking to. He was new. And I said, what are you here for?
Starting point is 01:11:54 I said drugs. Somehow or another drugs came up and he goes, nobody's selling drugs anymore, Matt. See? And I went, I said, what do you mean? He said, I'm here for the fucking drop. I was like, dear mercy. And that's, listen, that's the whole time. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:08 And then I got out and I would, I'll meet people and I'll say, were you doing the drop? And they're like, what? I'm thinking, well, that's what they were calling it in prison. Everybody was in the drop. Even still to this day, and you're talking years later, like even right now, like, I've been to every prison in the brood for women, but carswell.
Starting point is 01:12:25 And for one, you know people from Florida because of the goals in their mouth. But it ain't about Florida. Where are you from? Tampa. Oh, you're in Hill. for scamming. I'm like, dang, that's all y'all know Tampa about is scamming. Like, we do more than just scam. I thought scamming started in Miami. So we're known throughout the whole world, Drop City, Tampa, fraud city. And it ain't make it no better when they got me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:53 I was just a 20-20, 60 Minutes did a whole thing where they came to Tampa. I was in prison, locked up, watched that whole thing. They were talking about, they had the mayor. So, like, this is insane. Like, they had the IRS. They were. were like it's it Tampa was like the epicenter they said it's it's nowhere worse than Tampa right so my my question is are people getting busted I mean even small time people have to get busted not a big one but I'm saying periodically you have to know somebody like damn did you hear about Jimmy fuck they got them with whatever and you've got to be worried people getting busted but when you're doing wrong and you feel like you untouchable
Starting point is 01:13:33 you never believe that it's going to be you that's going to get busted. Like, I didn't think I was going to get busted. Why would I think I'm going to get busted? I got my business. I'm just doing fraud. I'm not going to the ATM machines. I'm not doing none of that. I'm just sitting in front of the computer.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Who knows that I'm sitting in front of a computer doing fraud all day? So you never feel like you're Jimmy, right? Jimmy knows. Jimmy knows. Jimmy knows, and Jimmy don't want to go to jail for 15 fucking years. But why would it be me? because I'm sure you're doing fraud and you're doing fraud, you're doing fraud. Why are you going to come and get me?
Starting point is 01:14:07 Because you're the, you're the, you're the tax queen. No, I was your first lady. Who didn't really know. Do they people don't really know or they kind of know or? Okay. So at one point, because now I'm, I'm doing fraud. You know, when I said a friend told me a guy, you know, he's doing it he's showing me the game and it's like i don't believe and still to this day
Starting point is 01:14:43 i don't feel like i would have ever got caught because i felt like what i was doing was so like i ain't going to say it was clinked up because if it was clinked up i wouldn't have got indicted i never had an indictment of the feds came to my house to indict my cold defendant for a fraud and they had a search warrant to search my house when they searched my house they found fraud so how did that happen how did how did they get to your your co-defendant like how did that okay so back in 2011 my co-defendant and his friends was in a hotel room one of his friends had a misdemeanor violation warrant. He had a truck.
Starting point is 01:15:34 The police knew his car, his truck. They sat outside this Howard Johnson Hotel to go in this hotel to indict his co-defendant. Before they can go in there to arrest him for his warrant, they saw all these guys coming in and out of the hotel. So they thought they was going to get a big drug bus. Instead, they went in the hotel and they found all these guys on laptop. with ledgers and names and personal information and debit cards.
Starting point is 01:16:03 It was a legal search warrant. They didn't have a search warrant. They hit them with the RICO all over the news. Let them go scot-free. So they thought. Yeah, I was going to say just to follow them. Just to follow them. Put the case together, follow them, see where they lead.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Right to me. Because now I'm messing with them now. And the fed's watching him. Feds watching him. I'm riding around in the 550. I'm riding around in the X-5. I got a two, we're talking 2012 now. I got a 2013 Audi A-8 paid for off the showroom floor, a $96,000 car.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Where's she getting this car from? Where did she get this from? How old are you at that? I'm 26. I have lots of 26 years old sort of driving around $90,000 BMWs. A $90,000 Audi paid for. I'm sorry, Audi, sorry. No payments off the showroom for in 2013.
Starting point is 01:16:56 That doesn't look suspicious at all. No, it don't do it. Look. So. So they swoop in. Do they grab these guys? They grab these guys. I mean, some of these guys, they have to grab them.
Starting point is 01:17:11 They grab them all, remember? Right, but they let them go. They let them go. They let them all go. I mean, nobody. Even the person that went to jail for the warrant. How do he get let out? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:24 So they let them all go. and now they're watching them or they're following them or whatever, however the case may be. And they came to my house with a search warrant to seize this Audi and to indict my co-defendant. And when they searched the house, they found traces a tax fraud. Were you there?
Starting point is 01:17:43 I was there. They knocked nicely on the door and say, can you please come downtown? So I had surveillance cameras. I had a total of nine cameras. And I had a TV in the corner of my one of, my camera TV in the corner of the wall, so it show all the nine.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Right. And I'm hearing something. Rashia Wilson, grab your baby and come downstairs. Because I got a new baby, too. Right. I'm like, I'm dreaming. I don't know. I get up, I turn my TV on,
Starting point is 01:18:15 and I see all these masks and the armor truck. They're pulling the ladder up to my second floor. They're like, Rashia Wilson. I'm downstairs. I'm like, what the hell? I'm like, hey, get up. The feds. I don't even know if it's the feds. I just see black. It's the feds. And my run was over with. Like, I had a tuition. Like, I was like, we end up going to Vegas, like a few months before that. And I'm like, hey, like, this guy is following us. You tripping. It ain't nobody following us. I'm like, man, I seen this
Starting point is 01:18:55 guy in the club. This man is following us. Man, when I got indicted, he said, yeah, I was the one that was following you in Vegas. I'm like, what in the hell? But two days prior before the feds came to my house, I was riding down the street, going to a strip club. I'm chilling, jamming me some future and I get pulled over for speeding but I'm not speeding he say miss Wilson step out the car I'm like for what he said you're speeding I'm like I know I'm not speeding like I know for a fact I'm not speeding he said I need to search your vehicle I say for speeding I'm scared shitless because I had an iPhone and I had the iPhone case and behind the iPhone case I had to cards in there
Starting point is 01:19:53 because I need to go take some money off. I'm going to the club, the club owner. I'm going to the strip club and he'll cash me out. If I need $50,000 and once, he'll charge me a fee and he'll give me $50,000 and once off that card. It just depends on the credit
Starting point is 01:20:10 the credit limit on the cards. Because you can, some cars had unlimited credit limit. Some cars had $20,000 credit limit and they'll swipe it out as credit and give you the cash. But of course they charge and you probably $5,000. thousand off 15,000, you know, but the, and it was the feds warning me. It was the feds two days before, pulled me over, searched my car, didn't find anything.
Starting point is 01:20:35 I had it. It was right in my hand the whole time, but they didn't find anything, but that was the feds. I ended up finding out. So, okay, so they grab you that day. They come looking for your, they said grab your baby and come downstairs. You come downstairs. So I come downstairs and they come, remember I said they had an indictment for my co-defendant. They take my co-defendant to jail on an indictment.
Starting point is 01:21:01 They take me to jail on a complaint because a few months prior I was in a gun range and they asked me, let me tell you this story. It was August. I got indicted in September. And I end up meeting this guy on social media. and on his picture just was just money and I had this thing where I won't talk to any guys from my hood
Starting point is 01:21:28 or not hood but from Tampa because I feel like everybody feel like I got money but this guy he looked like he had money so I don't want to mess with nobody that's going to use me for money I'd rather be with someone equal right he was a CI
Starting point is 01:21:43 he come get me he meet me on several occasions he got my hair done when he get my hair done he gave me crispy $100 bills. I thought marked money. I always thought Mark Money was like marked, but no, it's the numbers on the money. And when the feds came to my house,
Starting point is 01:22:02 this is how I knew. Like, you know, when you're in jail, you've been there, you replayed everything that happened. Like, dang, that was that or this was this. He took me to a gun range one day. He said he was taking me out to eat. He'd go to the gun range. He said, I got to go meet somebody. He'd go in there for like 15 minutes. And he was like, step out. I was like, for what? He was like, come on. I'm like, okay, we had the gun range. I ain't ever shot a gun. Let me go in this gun range and shoot a gun.
Starting point is 01:22:28 When we went in there, keep in mind, he just was in there 15 minutes. They say, good evening. Have y'all been here before? Have y'all? He told me he was coming to meet his friend. He just was sitting in there for 15 minutes. Whatever questions they needed to ask, they could have asked him already because he was already in there. They were setting up the surveillance. So when they came to my house to indict my co-defendant, they was able to take me on felony possession of a firearm. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:01 I end up pleading guilty to felony possession of a firearm. And I call home, I'm happy because my lawyer, like, I don't gave him $75,000. He's like, oh, you're not going to receive no more than 18 years. I mean, no more than 18 months probation or 18 months in prison. I'm like shit guilty You know I am guilty Right
Starting point is 01:23:23 Yeah that's an easy charge to prove They've got you on tape shooting a gun Or even handling a gun Right Guilty Call home Everybody's crying I'm like
Starting point is 01:23:36 What's wrong with y'all Like I'll be home Like I can call do 18 months We're gonna be fine When I get out I still gonna have everything They was like You all over the news
Starting point is 01:23:47 I'm like I know I just went to court today they say no you own the news you're on every station I'm like I know they were like no you just got hit with a 47 count indictment I say what
Starting point is 01:24:01 I just played guilty today how they hit me with a 47 count indictment it's an extra criminal history level oh you know yes so pled guilty to the gun charge the same day they hit me with the 47
Starting point is 01:24:16 account indictment Trick me. Again, I got tricked. Okay, Wilson, we're going to throw out 45 counts. What they did was, if I had your identification or your information and so forth, I got, for one name, I got tax fraud, theft of government funds, aggravated identity theft, and wire fraud on one name, this name, again. So there's a total of eight charges already just for two names. So I think they hit me with 15 names, but I had a 47 count indictment.
Starting point is 01:24:53 After it all was said and over with, they hit me with a 250 victims of more. Tell me how. I'm charged on paper with 15 names. Four charges here, conspiracy, and y'all hit me with the 250 victims. But how was it 250 victims? The only victim was the IRS. it's not how they look at it exactly but who's losing the money right they're dead right who's losing the money I was oh no I mean it's it's absolutely federal government but what what I'm
Starting point is 01:25:28 thinking too is it's funny because the people prior to that were bringing you their information so you're not a victim you brought me your information I don't think I ever I don't even know for still to the day I don't even know who what who I got charged for I don't know if it was maybe this person that person because nobody ain't get up in the courtroom with a sad story saying, oh, well, I'm a victim and she stole my identification, no. Because a dead person can't speak.
Starting point is 01:25:53 Explain to me the Facebook picture because that was, when I was in prison, guys were coming up to me going, bro, you've got to see this. And they're like, and then of course it was the tax queen. There was, you know, the tax queen and the photo. So basically what the government did was, like,
Starting point is 01:26:09 they took my name from my company, First Lady Entertainment, and started calling me the queen or First Lady of Tax Fraud. The picture of the money. So for one, I was in a promotion club business. I had club owners paying me to host club nights strip-athons, which was where they have a big strip off with all the strippers. And I get on the mic and I'd be like, hey, y'all come get these ones.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Like, stop playing. You know, just basically talk shit on the. Mike. And that money was only, if you look at it, it's only $2,000 in ones. So they said that I was holding tax fraud money. Right. There's no way that I can hold a tax fraud money that I was making. Right. It was $2,000 in ones. And they used that picture around the world saying queen of tax fraud or tax fraud money. Like, y'all should have caught pictures when I was really holding up money. Like, this is $1 bills. And $2,000. 2012, because I end up getting indicted in September 2012, and May my Facebook page was hacked.
Starting point is 01:27:21 It was like, hello, my name is queen of fraud or something for the record. If you think indicting me will be easy. I got the whole Tampa Police Department on the payroll. These people hacked my page. I got on my daughter's page like, A, whoever doing this is messed up. they never, I was never able to get back in that page again. Like, I can hit Change Password and it said your password has been changed, but would not send me the password, I feel like it was the feds.
Starting point is 01:27:58 And they used that status and that picture to enhance my, not criminal history, but give me the leadership role. How I get a leadership role if y'all came to my house to indict my co-defendant. Y'all came there to indict him. and the stuff that they found in the house they re-indicted him again. He had two tax fraud indictments, he had
Starting point is 01:28:21 two tax fraud indictments, and I had the gun charge indictment and the tax fraud indictment. But I got the leadership, bro. So what did you end up, what did they end up offering you? They didn't offer me. They said, my lawyer at the time,
Starting point is 01:28:37 who I feel like sold me to the government, he said, if you plead guilty to this, You won't receive no more than five years. If you go to trial and lose, you're going to get 22 years because the wire fraud itself carries 20 years a max and the aggravated identity theft carry a consecutive 24 months. I pled guilty and received one year less than the max.
Starting point is 01:29:04 I received 252 months, 21 years for a guilty plea of wire fraud and aggravated identity theft. the gun charge ran concurrent. Okay. So that would have been roughly 18 months or 18, 18, 19 years. Yes. How much time did you do? I did 12 years and 8 months. Because.
Starting point is 01:29:29 Compassion and release. So back in 2018, they did the First Step Act, first step act, 2018, so I got a lot of time off then. 2020, they started applying the FSA First Step Act again. I got another year off, and then I got a lot of money in the bank, a lot of days. Like when you program, when you program, you get like days in the bank. And I filed the compassionate release. I forgot to mention back in 2015, I ended up filing for an appeal,
Starting point is 01:30:03 and my judge came out of retirement and gave me the same sentence. so he still had to fix his wrong he had to fix his wrong because law is law whatever person of vendetta you have against me law is law so I got he didn't fix his mistake which was they stacked my they stacked my criminal history
Starting point is 01:30:25 because of the gun they sentenced me on the gun and then they sentenced me on the tax fraud which made my criminal history go up but the only way that your criminal history can go up is if you can two separate offenses. I didn't. It was all one indictment. Y'all came to my house. Y'all indicted me for the gun, but y'all really was holding me because y'all really wanted
Starting point is 01:30:50 me for the tax fraud. So it's technically all one case. So I was able to fight that back with the youth offender, a law that passed back in 2020. If you got sentenced anywhere from the ages of 20, in your 20s, you can qualify for, I think it's called the 821, 821 youth offender. So I was a youth offender. I got filed the compassionate release again, and he granted it. So I'm home early. Who was your judge? Who is your judge? Who? Stick-a-moody, Judge James Moody. Okay. I'm not mad at you no more, Moody. I'm not mad. He gave me a chance because my release day was in 2013. Mine was 2030. I'm supposed to be out in 2030.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Yeah. Yeah. If people wanted to go and follow you like YouTube or any social media, is where would they go? So they can follow me on my IG at First Lady underscore E&T. That's one ST Lady underscore E&T. My TikTok at First Lady 813 and my YouTube channel at First Lady E and T. What are your, I mean, real quick, if you want to, what are your plans? Like, are you plans like, you're laying in bed at night? Oh, I got a lot of plans. I write music.
Starting point is 01:32:11 I'm an author. They can go grab my book off Amazon, the Life of a Hood Star. I'm actually in the middle of changing my name. Is this yours? It's my book. I wrote it in prison. No, I'm saying it. Your story.
Starting point is 01:32:24 It's my story. My biography. Okay. I'm changing the name because I just brought myself out my contract, so I'm re-changing my name to the story. book but same story um yeah reality show coming out stay tuned i'm working on big things this year the good the legal way yeah i was going to say you're going to be on vlad i have blad coming up vlad i have a blad interview in two weeks so i got vlad tv um oh not to mention somebody that's in the
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