Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets

Episode Date: March 2, 2025

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camera and say I picked up recovered graft I saw the bodies I put a body in a crate What I have been told by two different people was you didn't have to mentally ask the being the question. You would sit down as a telepath and in your mind, for lack of a better word, you would get, yes, I know you want to talk about the object that's in the Indian Ocean. We are no longer sitting on top of the food chain that these beings are on top of the food chain. You know, they're the DNR, the Department of Natural Resources and we're the deer. They're extracting semen and ova from human beings like we do to animals. Sometimes the capture and tagging goes well. Sometimes it doesn't go well.

And then, of course, in the last 10 years, there are so many examples of just blatant lies by the government. And it said, I am been commanded by someone higher than my CEO to cease and desist all contact with you. I am asking you, you are not to cut, drop, share this text message. You are no longer to contact me. You are now on a special government watch list due to your frequent and the nature of your FOIA requests, your overseas emails, and the nature of your questionnaire that you submitted to the National Air and Space Intelligence Center. Matt Cox, and I'm here with John Stewart. He is a former candidate for governor of Illinois and he ran for Senate. He's also the premier investigator of the, and I believe it is the 97 alien

interview, super interesting interview. So check it out. My buddy, who is a big believer in aliens, alien abductions. It really, any conspiracy at all he he loves and you know the the problem is since the you know advent of the internet and let's say the last 15 years is that growing up i would hear these you would hear these conspiracies and of course you know you shrug them off or even if there's a lot of evidence you still pretty much shrug them off because why would the government lie to us and And then, of course, in the last 10 years, there are so many examples of just blatant lies by the government. You know, no, we would never spy on American citizens.

There is no spy program. Six months later, a year later, there is a spy program. We are spying on the American. We would never kill or, you know, put habeas corpus on the side. And Obama, you know, sends a hellfire. missile into a U.S. citizens car in the Middle East, you know, no, no jury, no randomism, no Miranda rights, no trial by his peers, just, you know, and then kill his son two weeks later, American citizens. Well, I mean, so my problem with that is that, like, growing up,

you know, I love a good alien abduction story. I, I, I, I loved fire in the sky. You know, I love the concept. I love the idea of it. I love the idea of Star Trek, right? I love, know, obviously, you know, those are, those are great. But deep down, I've just, I was always like, come on, stop it. And I would say, look, you know, I would do do the whole, you know, semi-mocking, like, you know, come on, where are the pictures? Where are this? Where's that? But the problem is, as things have progressed, there are so many of these, what were, you know, crazy conspiracy theories that are being, you know, debunked that it's, it's at the point where, it's like I'm still kind of like where are the photos where are the videos but um you know

the problem is is that it I also think that there's the availability for the government to suppress these things is just massive so and anyway you know I don't know I I do like the idea of it I just really do would love to see concrete evidence. I don't know that we'll ever get that. But my understanding is you've done a thorough... If you want to see photos, let's start, let's, you know, let's rock and roll. Right. What is this? I, I, I, I, look at his mouth open, his mouth closed. I mean, I, you know, so they're out there. You have to look. I, I, I say one thing. I give the, the best, uh, wrap up on, on what you just said. I, I, I, I think. I've, I've worked at it. Since 1955 how many retired senior citizen men and women sitting on their porch in Iowa or Montana in their flannel shirt with nothing to win or nothing to lose years from death look in the

camera and say I picked up recovered graft I saw the bodies I put a body in a crate I flew the bodies to Fort Worth Air Base. I worked at Wright, Pat. I saw a bean. I, you know, Bill U-house, a Marine. I designed the simulator, an extraterrestrial simulator to train U.S. pilots who worked alongside me was a J-Rod, an extraterrestrial biological entity. You know, this guy's smoking his marbles with his flannel shirt on. How many of the 7, 800 men and women who have come forward, again, kind salt over the earth people to tell you this is real and they're covering up. How many more people does it take? I don't know. Frankly, I'm exasperated. But I think we finally have seen light poke through that disclosure tunnel. Certainly yesterday with

David Grushes and Congress's testimony and hearings where we wanted to get to the bottom of aliens and UFOs. And about 20 times it was said. a congresswoman i will tell you that in private congressman i can tell you that but only in a skiff room uh congressman i'll tell you that but off camera you know um just just this whole thing continues to mock our loyalty and belittle our citizenship and i really mean that and i'm not a anti-government guy i'm not an anti-military military military guy but the people are getting fed up so let's let's go back a little bit what is your your background you know you know Where were you born?

Sure. Grew up in Chicago, born in 1967, 70s kid. I tell everybody that Chicago television completely made me, you know, a little goofy and a little crazy. You know, we had a show, a kid's show where a guy, you know, molded clay and the clay mound talked. Watching Dick the Bruiser Pro Wrestling on Sundays and Captain Kangaroo, a guy that came on with the dictators. jacket on watching evil caneval uh you know stock car racing you know i mean it was just a tv totally changed my my my perception and in view of life i was college a football player for university of memphis i left that to become a professional wrestler at 19 still in college um i did

i was a professional wrestler on it off for 20 years my biggest mainstay was on ESPN for the AWA. Many of my matches are on, are on YouTube. You know, wrestled everybody and, you know, my biggest rivalry was Sergeant Slaughter. And that was a great time. And got out of wrestling and started in the family car business. We had an automobile dealership. And in between all of that, got married, three lovely children, still married, and ran for Congress in 99, ran for Illinois governor in 2016 and then it was a replacement candidate for the Libertarian Party for Illinois Secretary of State which I had no intention of running anymore and that was last year and I did run for Senate and then the Illinois Republican Party said I needed

$5 million this was to go against Barack Obama and they told Chicago Bears football coach Mike Dick you need $5 million John Stewart needs $5 million or don't even think about running and six weeks later they they pick ellen keys who's you know was a crazy man to fill the vacancy to run as a candidate and that's when i left became a libertarian and in um 2019 matthew when i uh had my first time off that wasn't due to injury or vacation i am a self admitted and i don't am not proud of it um workaholic i had some time off and my you know was my conscious or just like my interest, my alpha male said, you know that video that has always bothered you since 1997?

Why don't you go figure out something about it? You got four hours today. Let's go figure out something about it. And that is when, again, in 2019, I put the pedal to the medal and started an investigation, a self-funded, totally journalistic, a credibility and methodology to study this film, who simply find if it was real or a hoax? And if it was a hoax, did Hollywood do it or the government do it? I don't think a lot of people expecting me to save the government, but they do do magic, it's called. And that's when I started the deep dive into this,

into this completely bizarre film of this two-minute, 56-second film of a alleged interrogation, a thought projection, questioning, I like to say. I don't, like interrogation of an off-planet being, an Eben, E.B.E.N. Extraterrestrial biological entity. And for five years, with the help of military intelligence insiders, with the help of UFO experts, with the help of ordinary American people, I believe, with all journalistic credibility, that I have solved the provenance of this film. Okay. When was the first time you saw the film? It was 97, and I tell everybody, and I don't try to impress people, I'm trying to impress upon you why this has grabbed me.

Matt, I'm living in downtown Chicago, high-rise. I'm dating this beautiful, sexy blonde, who's my wife now, 23 years later, driving a black Porsche. I got a boat on Lake Michigan. I'm wrestling part-time. I'm an automobile dealer, wholesaling, exporting, you know, just this crazy, exciting life. I'm running for state rep in Illinois also, my first four-way into politics. And this documentary comes on, you know, alien interview. And I'm thinking, well, it's going to be like a weird-looking human handing a clipboard over

to a general at the Pentagon on a close circuit camera, you know, interview. And I see it, you know, 20 minutes into the documentary, I see this unprofessional, non-Hollywood produced, continuous three-minute shot of a gray alien. Here's the problem. It's not gray. It's tan. It doesn't have the gray almond eyes. It's got round eyes.

the mouth is moving opening and closing just this little slit which i thought even back then anatronically to do it that fast would have been really really hard the two doctors come in when this bean becomes in distressed they come in in in short sleeve scrubs and masks and gloves on you know if i was hoaxing this i'd have him in biocontainment suits and i'm and then there's two shadows two people in the foreground that are sometimes getting their shoulders in the camera angle I'm like, this is either the worst hoax on planet Earth or it's so bad that it's got to be, there's got to be some provenance that this is authentic. And when you hear Victor, this is the whistleblower that came forward to this video production company and said,

look, I've got this three-minute film. I'm a former government employee. I was down in this facility. I want to expose what's called the alien interrogation and retention program. Here's the video. you know they interviewed them and on top of everything else this this i've never heard someone speak more intelligently in my life he makes a statement that you know do we get a lot of information from these beings you know from at nine from 97 and back and he says you know minor

technical you know bits and pieces of information and the communication is hard because the aliens are about 10,000 years advanced than us and they're trying to they're trying to thought projection, their views or the modalities of physics and gravity to us. And we just have our own conception of physics. And he says it's like putting calculus into the greets and screets and grunts and groans and growls of a chimpanzee. And how advanced these beings. are, it's like us handing a CD-ROM and a CD player to somebody in 1820. You know, they would hear the music and think it was magic.

And that's about how these beings have come across to us. He says that it's, that it's at the, the whole program is one big ego deflation for the scientists that they can't understand these concepts that, you know, they thought they knew everything about physics and propulsion and gravity and, and, uh, and, uh, and, and, uh, and, and space and time, and, you know, they can't even grasp the concepts, most of them, of the beings. And it's a huge ego deflation. And one thing I always forget to talk about is that there was a small cabal of people inside this facility. The facility is called S2 Alpha. And it was the Site 2 alpha. And the A is for Annex, Annex 2. This is where this alien retention and

interrogation program took place. And he said the security measures were so draconian. And we heard this from Bob Lazar, whether Bob was down there or not, I don't know. We heard this from a century guard who came forward a year before Bob Lazar that it was just the security was like so draconian, so over the top. And this cabal of five people conspired together in Las Vegas, you know, out because this facility was located about 10 miles south of Area 51 to sneak out some sort of data, whether it be material photos, reports, or film. And the film is what they actually snuck out. And also a dossier called the United States government's, the United States government's examination of extraterrestrial life, huge docket, which has never surfaced. But this film

did. And Jeff Broadstreet, the director of the documentary, spent three weeks vetting Victor to see if he was a Hollywood actor. And 25 years later, the director still tells everybody, look, we didn't hire this guy. We didn't make up this video. You know, and Jeff eloquently says, explain to me how a retired government employee that didn't drive on a government pension in 96, because that's when he came to the office, How did he make a $150,000 production, hire animatronic experts and, you know, craft catering and rent the stage to shoot all this?

How did a government scientist on a retired pension who didn't drive? How did he accomplish that? You know, that just doesn't seem real. And it's the Occam's razor. The simplest explanation of all of this is that the government filmed it. This film was cleverly taken out of, Area 51, and I know how now, and I will get into that. And when he retired and thought he was clear enough or cleared enough from this facility

and who he was, he released the film on Rocket Pictures on the UPN Network, not Fox, on a series called Strange Universe, and this was a one-hour documentary. And I think because of the alien interview, which somebody, you know, what people were saying was a hoax a year before, this film, and because of it, bizarreness fell through the cracks in the government, in news, and in UFO researchers. So how, so you, you decided to contact the producer. Is that? Oh, I threw my five-year investigation. I probably have written 180 press releases. I've tried to contact 60 reporters. I'm at right now 45 uphologist, seven military experts,

four who helped me deeply, three of these military people are military intelligence, retired insiders, been contacting with the producer, the CEO of the production company, and it's just this casual conversation of it's not fake. We didn't fake it. We didn't hire Victor. He came to us out of the blow. All right. So he came to them.

You reached out, what was your first process? I understand everything you're trying to. kind of consolidate in five minutes, but we have more than five minutes. So what was the, so what was the first, you know, what was your first step? You saw it. You said, ah, let me take a look at this thing. You started that process by contacting who? Okay. Great question. So this bizarre physiological monitor, if I, if you're going to show the film is by this creature, the blip does not go across the screen. It goes up and down and stays stationary. Never seen that before. We still don't know what that is. It's the only part of

investigation that I really have not had any conclusive information about. And also on the bottom of this film is digital overlay graphics placed on the film itself later in production or when they made two copies at the Groom Lake Photo Lab. It says DNI slash 27, Delta, November, India, which Victor tells us stands for the Department of Naval Intelligence. Just remember that. and then slash 27. So I've got this film in my mind.

It's 1999, and I run for United States Congress. I drop out and endorse a man who became the congressman and an Illinois senator, and he had a senator, a present sitting senator on our bus tour when I dropped out and we went around the end of the campaign to help him, you know, the end of the cycle of the election. And I asked this senator, who was a former Navy person, and I'm sure people can, you know, put two and two together, and I don't want to say his name anymore because I've been admonished for doing so. And when he got off the stage to make a speech, we took a picture and I looked at him, I said, you know, Senator, before we get back on the bus, what is the Department of Navy Intelligence?

And Matthew, he looked at this jovial senator, got this aggressive look, stared at me with these black, tall eyes. He's like, you don't need to know anything about that. Stormed off to talk to me for the rest of the bus tour. And I do wrap-ups. So I'm thinking, wait a minute. I got a hoaxed video, right? Suppose it hoax video. Three letters on the hoax video that a screenwriter, 24-year-old screenwriter in 1996 put on to hoax us. We can't find what the Department of Naval Intelligence is, 96 or 2023. So why would you put a department that no one can find? I mean, you're hoaxing yourself. And why did these three letters, I'm saying this in my mind, piss off a United state senator and i remember saying to myself sitting alone on the bus what in the hell is going on

with this video and then normal life takes over matt i uh and it's the start of covid again like i said i had some time off and i said let me figure something out about this film and i and this is 2019 and i started with the physiological monitor folks it looked like a pane of glass with this green blip going up and down stationary not horizontally across The monitor. Bizarre. So trying to be a good journalist and investigator, I find three PhD candidates who did the history of physiological monitors. I mean, is there anybody better to go to to get their opinion on what is this? And they looked at the film and these three PhD candidates said, you know, Mr. Stewart, we have no idea what that is. We've never, in all of our years of research, we have never seen that, heard of that. It doesn't make sense. that the blip goes up and down and not across the screen. And we are to tell you that we have no idea what that monitor is. That wasn't enough.

You know, I'm trying to be a good journalist. I call Hewlett-Packard and Space Labs. They were the two companies in the 90s that made physiological monitors for retail consumption and space labs made it for NASA. You know, right? These great companies to call. And I literally asked for their physiological monitoring engineering departments, research and development.

And one of them emailed me back, said, we're all here looking at your film in engineering. We have no idea what this is. We've never seen this even at a trade show. We've never seen concept drawings of this. And I'm thinking PhD candidates don't know what this is. The engineers at Hewlett-Packard don't know what this is. I get a crusty 60-something-year-old guy at Space Lab. I'm sorry, Space Lab sent me the we don't know what it is.

I get a crusty, 60-something-year-old guy at Hewlett-Packard. And he's calling me kid, you know. And I show him the video, and he's like, kid, I don't know what that is. I said, sir, have you ever seen this at a trade show? In 30 years of being a physiological engineer, have you ever heard of somebody say we could try and develop this? Or a single blip, it goes up and down. He goes, you're not listening to me. I don't know what this is.

He goes, but I'm telling you. you, if you're telling me this is in a government lab or a government facility, it could be a one of. And I'm like, oh, what's a one of? He said, well, in any application scientific, let's say you're trying to figure out a situation, solve a problem, a formula, you would develop, and there was no device to help you, let's say like a metal detector, if you're looking for gold in the ground, you would develop and put to concept, conceive and develop and manufacture a one-of device, just one-of a kind to help you figure out your situation. I said, don't laugh at me.

I said, would you develop a one-of physiological monitor if you knew that a bean had a really bizarre heart and lung sack and not a traditional heart and lung? First time, and this happened a lot for five years, didn't laugh. at me, Matthew, he didn't hang up on me. He didn't, you know, cough and be like, oh, dear God. And he went, yeah, that's exactly what I would have done if this was an alien and he didn't have a regular human heart. Of course, you'd have to make up a special device. So again, I'm sitting in my car and I'm going, hmm, okay, we've got a pissed off senator. We've got a department, Navy intelligence, nobody knows what it is. I've got a grip mall.

video production company, you know, listen to my words, folks, a strip mall video production company that is somehow magically invented the most bizarre physiological monitor ever known to man. And an animatronic doll that probably would have cost what we were told, $70,000 to $100,000 back then, five people to work it. And we know that the budget that they got from the UPN network and Strange Universe to put this one-hour documentary on was just over $100,000 and we know what Victor was paid. We know what Jeff Broadstreet basically was paid. How did this happen?

No money, a retired scientist who doesn't drive, this monitor, the pissed off senator, the department that doesn't exist. And here I am in 2019, Matthew, I'm sure you've had moments like this that any of your other viewers when you're trying to figure out something. And you sit back and you go, my God, what am I getting into? This is no longer some semi-retired grandfather's hobby. You know, I'm starting to fall down the rabbit hole. And I said, well, I'm going to keep going and go further and try and find even more about this video.

Okay. But you still hadn't contacted the producer or the, sorry. No, no, it's right. So I had now, I had information, but I did not have knowledge. You know, knowledge is from people being in dealing with it, first person, you know, first person witnessing this, maybe this program. Matthew, I knew no one really in the UFO community. I know nobody in military intelligence, barely in the military.

But I knew that some UFO researchers, when they published books or they did radio interviews, would get contacted sometimes from people in the know and with their desire to help out that UFO researcher. So I went on the Jeff Wrenz program. Jeff has had and still has a very alternative news website reminiscent of drudge. He's got a radio, internet radio show. So in 2021, I went on the Jeff Rents program and talked about where I was at with the monitor and the senator

and so on. And lo and behold, about, it was the first week of June. This was in right before Memorial Day. I get an email from a gentleman, claims to be, you know, an insider. And he says, you know, I enjoyed your interview. You got some things right. Got a couple of things wrong. You know, I'd like to keep in touch with you. If you have any questions, you know, you might think of for me if I can help you or any and never forget the word he said if i if i can nudge your investigation in any way please please let me know i don't know how much i can tell you um but i'll do my best and i would get emails from him the first week of every month sorry who was this again sorry i'm sorry after doing this this jeff rents program i got a random email from i don't know who it was at

Okay, okay. So you know, it seemed to me like a male. Right. And, and, you know, you said, I, you know, I've got your program. You know, I'm in the know. I'm not with military intelligence, but, you know, I have been read into these programs. Like I said, I'll help you if I can and give your investigation a nudge. And, and, you know, wow, you got some things right. You got a couple of things wrong, what you were talking about. Did you ever figure out who that was? Well, I will tell you, I can't review. his name because he is my deep throat like, you know, Woodward and Bernstein and the Watergate investigation. It was, he did this, communicate with me, June, July, August, September, October, November, December, January, February, for 10 months. And on my birthday, he sends me the list, and I don't want to miss my words here. He sends me the list of the report from the Defense Intelligence agency. That is who ran the alien and interrogation program south of Area 51, the DIA. He must have had a contact in the DIA who sent him a, and this is my vernacular, like in an

internal investigation for the director of the DIA back in either 91 or 97 when this video surfaced of, you know, how this video film was smuggled out. But more importantly, I got the names of the military men who were in the viewing gallery watching this alien interview through the partition glass. And it was shocking to me. My hand was shaking because I was seeing people's names that I've never seen before that I never heard of in euphology. And he told me the real date of the film, which the whistleblower Victor got wrong.

The name of the facility, which was S2 Alpha, Victor said it was S4. We know that the bottom level of S2, alpha, is called S4, and there's a lot of, you know, promotion about that on the Internet. And so it also said that it wasn't smuggled out in the butt crack of Victor in a microfilm that the United States Air Force cameraman simply took this film when the interview was finished with his bean. He was driven back to the groom leg photo lab, not Area 51, photo lab, the Groom Lake photo lab by the United States Air Force police officer,

wouldn't you have liked to been in that car for the 15 minutes to Area 51? And three days later, not that day, real specifics, three days later, two copies of the film were made, and the three-minute version was put into a United States government burn bag. I don't even know what the GSA was at the time, and it was the burn bag that was let out of area 51 and then recollected by the U.S. Air Force cameraman, not Victor. So there's

a new person in this whole fold, which is the Air Force cameraman really smuggled this out. And Victor was the one that simply went on camera. But Matthew, you know, just having the names, it's not any kind of an investigation. So

I started to process and dig into each one of the names. Again, these are the men that were viewing the being behind the viewing partition in the interview suite down at level S4 and S2 Alpha building. And the first name was a retired Air Force person, famous son of a World War II veteran, not MacArthur, not Patton, not Eisenhower. And he was, on the Wikipedia, it said he worked, he then worked for TRW. I'm like, well, this is a hoax. The guy wasn't even in the Air Force at the time.

He was being allowed to view this alien. And then I called Sean David Morton, who was instrumental in the first documentary as a researcher. He said, John, my family, some of my family were for TRW. Sean David Morton. And he said, TRW does so many black projects for the government. They might as well be the government. That does not disqualify him. anything, that even proves even more of a provenance of why he might have been down there.

Interesting. Okay. You know, still to this day, no one's, hope, no one's debunking this thing for me. The next person was a rear admiral. I look him up and to my shock, he was the intelligent, listen to me, folks, the intelligence liaison for the joint chiefs of staff reporting directly to Colin Powell. This is 91. And he was in the overall. office with Colin Powell, briefing the president of the United States, George H. Bush, at the time.

He is dead, and he is the only name I'm going to release. His name was Admiral Schaefer. His nickname was Ted. And he was allegedly down in this facility also. But remember what he did. He was intelligence liaison for the Joint Chiefs for Colin Powell, briefed the president. Very important you remember that in about 20 minutes from now. The next person was a captain in naval intelligence, a Wikipedia. He retired a vice-admiral. Like, well, this was a hoax. They said he's a captain.

One of my investigators, Chris Jackson, former police officer, he's like, dummy, me, dummy. This investigation briefing was either from 91, was from, was taken from information in 91, Do you think maybe back in 91, he was an Army, a United States Navy captain. And 25 years later, he became an admiral. And I'm like, oh, my God, that's true. That, that this list is from 91, not from 2023. So I find his email. I email him.

And we have this great relationship, three or four emails. It was actually three, because the fourth one is when he goes to me. And three emails back and forth, Matthew, I was actually going to go to Virginia and, you know, ask him out for lunch or for coffee or I don't know, what to retired military people do, play golf. But this is how friendly we were with each other. He asked me to, I almost gave him his nickname. He asked me to call him his nickname, which felt very uncomfortable for me. And at the fourth email, he said, you know, before you come out, what do you have? What is this documentary about?

And I'm like, you know, Vice Admiral, this is very hard for me. You know, I have relatives in the military. I respect the military. You know, I'm proud to say that I was one of the progenitors with Senator Mark Kirk who kept the North Chicago VA administration center open when we found out it was being closed. So please take that as a grain of assault. But I'm going to send you a report. Your name's on it.

It's as bizarre as it gets. And please let me know what you think. And this friendly guy with these friendly interactions ghosted me. Refused to email me back, call me, anything, completely ghost me. And in my opinion, Matthew, in 2022, if you're electronically ghosting somebody after such a nice, you know, camaraderie of emails, that says, that speaks volumes. That's saying a million words. I've talked to military people.

You know, most people in the military, you know, people on the internet want me to say most, not all. And that's true. Most people in the military are very honorable. And they're not going to lie to your face. And instead what they'll do, they just won't talk to you. So they're not forced to lie. So he just refused to talk to me. About eight months later, a month ago, Dr. Michael Sala, who runs exopolitics, he was a, you know, a government, a litigator for countries and just a, you know, Ph.D. Just a wonderfully bright man. He emailed him and the in the vice admiral email back and said you know I'm just not interested in talking anything about my past military career and Dr. Sala wrote me back and said I can't believe

it he's he's real he's legit it's a real person um it's you know it's amazing and so I'm like wow this is you know this this is getting creepier by the day you know again nobody just debunking it this is the really two interesting parts then it comes to the doctors who came in to the Beans area to tend to the Bean when it was having a respiratory attack, a coughing attack. And I googled both of their names. The Doctor to the Beans Bright on the film, who's just holding the Bean's shoulders. He died in California about five years ago. I find Matthew his widow, his second wife, who is his widow. I call her up. Now imagine telling an 80-year-old woman, you know, I think your husband was involved in aliens.

It's like it was really uncomfortable for me, but I told her the entire story quickly. And I don't get hung up on. She's not laughing. And there's a pause. And I'm not being melodramatic. I'm just relating this verbatim. And she said, John, the light just went on above my head. I'm like, what?

She's like, this completely makes sense now. And I'm like, I'm going to call her Kim. I'm like, Kim, can you explain what you're talking about? She said, John, ever since I've been married to my husband, he's never wanted to talk about his time in the United States Army Medical Corps. Now, I never said Army Medical Corps. That is on this report from the DIA. It's Dr. So-and-so United States Army Medical Corps.

So how did this 80-year-old woman know what was going to be on this report describing what her husband was or the branch of military. Interesting. She said he never wanted to talk about his time in the U.S. Army Medical Corps. She goes, John, what's even more funny, our friend group, our social group has veterans from Vietnam, Korea, World War II, and they all talk of funny stories of a drill instructor or, you know, the conditions at boot camp or, you know, non-combat humorous stories and we all would ask ourselves and to each other why does my husband never want to talk about his time in the military what what secret or secrets was my husband holding onto and she said this phone call after 20 years makes complete sense and I really appreciate you call me if you have

anything else my daughter you know you said you live in the chicago area my daughter lives in the Chicago suburbs. Here's her name. Here's her email. You know, if you ever want to get together in coffee and ask her about my husband, you know, please do so. And she goes, I'm going to tell her what you told me and, you know, do what you want with that. I'm like, wait a minute. Some, some unknown person sends me this list. I start vetting it. No one's laughing. No one's hanging up the phone. You know, like, you know, I knew I was in, I knew I was in deep at that point. Here's another bizarre one. The next doctor. I find out in 1991 that he was working for the VA, not that the VA has the best doctors in the world, but working for the VA, I would think it's like

being on the bench as a pitcher in baseball for the government. You know, you can be plucked out at any time and moved anywhere for any need. And remember, the creature in this video film has a coughing respiratory attack. What did this doctor do in the VA in 1991? He was a pulmonologist. Now, that's either the greatest coincidence, you know, pulmonology, dealing with breathing, lungs. And they must have brought this doctor in because the creature was suffering from a debilitating respiratory issue. Victor tells us that even though they eliminated microbial bacteria from their ecosystems, that's a verbatim quote, that they've still. still were susceptible to having microbes form, and for biologists, I'm butchering this, still

form in the respiratory system, no matter how advanced and how high-tech these beings were. And this doctor must have been brought in as a pulmonologist and an expert to see if he could figure out how to, you know, treat or care for this being. He is still practicing medicine in Connecticut. And his pictures on the internet with his lab coat on and his office hours. And, you know, you're seeing a man tend to an alien from off planet. And now you're seeing his picture on, you know, Google. It was bizarre.

It was bizarre. And then it said there was two other telepaths in the room. And let me talk about the telepathy program. It was actual thought projection. What I had been told by two different people was you didn't have to. mentally ask the being the question. You would sit down as a telepath and in your mind, for lack of a better word, you would get, yes, I know you want to talk about the object that's in the Indian Ocean. I really don't know much about it. And, you know, before you could say to the

being in your mind, can you tell me about the object in the Indian Ocean? And another anecdotal story that I got from a military insider was the communication was difficult. And this is a great anecdotal story um you know you want to call bullshit that's great but this is a i thought this was a really interesting anecdotal story of the communication barrier the telepath would get the thought of do you know where i'm coming from and and he would turn to an army or a navy or an intelligence person in the room and say he's asking us you know do we know where he comes from i guess that's like a star system when in fact or sorry i'm jumbling that the telepath would say he's asking me do you know where i'm coming from like he's getting like snippy with me when in fact the being

was was relating do you know where i come from what star system what galaxy or what you know what moon or what um you know what part of the universe that i come from so there was a very very very hard communication problem with the telepaths and these beings. But it was told that these two telepaths that were in the room and that interview were remarkable. They were able to sit down with this being and immediately turn around. And I'm imitating what a military person was showing me. They would be able to turn around immediately and say, okay, his spaceship was designed and built at a molecular level. It's not like where we do, where we layer metal and do rivets and, you know, they would get immediate, immediate, clear, definitive information from these beings.

It was remarkable. But many people, including Victor, said that the telepath program, they were hiring people and getting telepaths that were one step above 1,800 psychics, you know, back in the 80s and 90s. And this is not something I would like to pivot. something that relates with Bob Lazar and another person named Danny Bush, Captain Danny Burrish, who is claimed to be down in the facility. The government loves people who are a little off. Their education is sketchy. They have an interesting background. They can't prove a lot of the provenance of their education.

or their their profession or their expertise and why so when they come out and expose things they can debunk them right they're easily when i just said you look at myself i'm not a government plant i mean my daughter spit up their cocoa puffs at the table when i said somebody on the internet says i'm a CIA agent um what what have i been used and debrief to get this information out it's possible. And look at me, you know, went to six colleges and my professional rushing career, a Rick Flair gimmick with the boa sequin robe. I was an automobile dealer and a politician. Could you pick any more professions that people laugh at? So look at who, to some degree, a portion of the government is letting the information come to and letting this person

now being the figurehead of this video. You know, I am completely can be discredited my education and who I was in my crazy life and lifestyle back in the day. So this is not an uncommon thing for the government to do. Not uncommon to pull. Can you hear me? You know, a psychic and say, hey, do you want to think you can, you know, do telepathy through an alien. I see you. Okay.

Okay. I have a hard time hearing you. Oh, I hear you now. Okay. They choose people that are easily discredited. Got it. Yes, sir. So here's one of my questions for you.

You say you've got the list, you were sent a list, but the only person's name that you're willing to release is someone who's deceased. Do you see how that's, that, how that's problematic? Totally. And let me follow that up. Seven UFO researchers that I trust have this list. Okay. I, the minute I got it, I drove to Wisconsin and I met the Roswell. expert. He was J. L. and Hinek, a Blue Book's assistant in Chicago. His name is Donald Schmidt.

He is currently right now in New Mexico looking for more metal from the Roswell crash. He's head of the International UFO Consortium. The weekend I got it, I drove to show it to him. Remember, I don't want to be Bernie Madoff. I don't want to be Elizabeth Holmes. Disclosure. And yes, we are two other reasons. This is keeping the list not public. Number one, we are filming a documentary. It's not out yet. I have no agreements.

So, you know, that is part, you know, that is part of my, you know, my material that I would like to present in my way. The second biggest problem is we still don't know the legality of what I have in bringing out these people's names. I don't want this doctor's office to be siege with vans and satellite trucks and UFO people calling them. This is a very murky and very sticky situation that I'm in. But I want everyone to know, I'm looking in the camera, seven UFO experts, two law firms, two producers, and two people inside Naval Intelligence who are on this list, have this report. So I didn't hide this from anyone. from anyone. And I am willing to show, I call him the chairman. I'd like to get how I exposed

to myself, the man that gave me this list. Anyone that wants to fly to Chicago, I will come face to face without any cameras. I'll show you his picture in the newspaper, who he is. You'll probably fall off your chair. He's a very prominent person in a metropolitan city. So, you know, nine people have this list. I want to be very clear to that. And respected UFO researchers. This list is with Congress, too, and Stephen Greer's Disclosure Project. Okay. So you went through, you spoke with everyone that was, it was possible to speak with on the list. You were, essentially, you got some bits of information, but most, but some also just were either deceased or they didn't want to speak anymore.

But their titles and locations and everything connected with the list that you received. So what was, what was your next step? Okay. So I had a little break. You know, you got all this information. You showed the UFO researchers and experts, quality trusted people. You know, Linda Moultenhow, most respected person in euphology, a journalist, award-winning journalist, said, you got gold here. I said, why do I have gold?

She's like, because I have never heard of one of these men. And sometimes fraudulent UFO people come forward with retread names. She's like, you're coming forward with people that we've never heard of. And they're verifiable through Wikipedia or Google or any kind of a search like that. So I'm looking at my emails from this man who got the DIA report for me. And I realized, Matthew, that he was emailing me the first week of every month. And it kind of sunk in because my father was on a board of directors for 35 years. of a credit union in Illinois.

And they met the first week of every month for a board of directors meeting that's called the Open Meetings Act. And I said, I'm wondering if this person is on a board of directors. And then I took his email. I should have done this 10 months ago. I just did it.

You know, you're in the moment. You're not thinking clearly. You know, I have ADD. I can be a dingling too and not think clear. I'm like, wait a minute. why don't I try and back, you know, try and find out what this email connects to. And I have a program through the automobile industry, believe it or not, that does that. And I found out that the email connected to an institution, I'm going to leave it at that,

in a metropolitan city. And through my research, I called the number. It was this man's daughter's office that the email was coming from. And my speculation based on, you know, a lot of a lot of anecdotal evidence is that when this man would come for a board of directors meeting once a month, he would go into his daughter's office and use her computer and email me. And I was pretty proud that I, you know, I did the Colombo investigation and kind of realized that. And I actually spoke to her, but of course, I was, you know, I lied to her. I was, you know, didn't tell her exactly why I was calling. You know, I got her name.

It's not the name. And that's why I call my main whistleblower, the chairman, because he was on a board of directors in an institution and a metropolitan city. And, you know, so I had all this provenance. And I said, well, what else can I do? Now, there was a man in Europe who dissected the video piece by piece and he found microscopic eyebrow movements. he found the mouth opening and closing and so did journalist Jaime Mousan in Mexico who emailed me, John, close up on the mouth.

You know, you're going to fall off your chair and opens and closes instantaneously, and it doesn't have any protruding animatronic metals or whatnot. So trying to know that I'm going to get vetted, I'm going to be asked, I'm going to, my investigation is getting me microscopically analyzed. I then paid $2,500, and my wife was not happy, to an animatronic accident. expert in California, who was hired by National Geographic to do a deep dive microscopic analysis of the Patterson-Gimlin, Bigfoot film. I mean, what better guy to take this to, right? If National Geographic trust him. So I spent $2,500, I gave him the film.

He immediately, three days later, sends me back a picture of the monitor. And the monitor, because an FX person told us, well, it's a pane of glass, they're bouncing a laser on it, somebody off camera. he said it's not a paint of glass it's a device it's a box it's surrounded by metal it's an actual monitor i'm like okay four days later he writes me back and he's like i got a head scratcher here this is the man hired by national geographics pretty well respected animatronics person and especially video expert in california he said john had been doing animatronic puppets for 30 years never never in my life and he sent me 20 pictures as examples have i seen an animatronic puppet where it does not have

creases in the armpits in the arm folds and he said that happens because about 75% of the drying process folks this is what i was told it could be 80 half somebody could have a different technique but some at some point in the drying process of an animatronic creature being you have to hold up the creature where his arms come down to the side of his body and I'm doing that with my and he goes and when the arms come down to the side of the of the puppet's body it is then the creases appear or are created from that movement and he goes I'm scratching my head I've spent a day steering at it that alien does not have any creases in its arm fold and I can't tell you for the life of me why now he goes I can't say this is 100%. I don't have the bean and formalga hide. I don't know anyone that has this

puppet on their shelf or in their garage in Hollywood. He said, but I'm telling you, that arm crease that is a massive, massive red flag that it is not an animatronic puppet. So here I sit. Now I've got an FX expert telling me that there's a great possibility. that this could be real. And, you know, I always tell people that this is the, you know, this is the investigation that keeps giving. So I had all this nomenclature, and I had all these names and facilities. And I know that he was a counterintelligence person, you know, 30 years ago.

And he dissuaged people that maybe it's a UFO, maybe it's a government program. And his name is Richard Doty, works for the Air Force. and I just asked Richard Doty to break down the military nomenclature and just to wa deem to ask him about the film. You know, because somebody, and I'm not calling Richard this at all, but because somebody was in the mafia,

do you not as a reporter want to still interview them, even though they made of lied and murder or, again, I'm not saying that that is Doty. But the point being is just because somebody has done something checkered or eyebrow raising in the past, doesn't mean that that's that person in present day. And Doty said, you know, I said, Rick, do you know if this Victor film is real?

He's like, it is absolutely real. He goes, but Victor was lying. I'm like, oh, here we go. It's going to be a, I'm going to, it's going to be debunked. He said, it wasn't at S4 technically. The level is called S4 that the interview suite is at. He said, but the building is called S2 Alpha, Sector 2 Annex.

And that is where the alien retention interrogation program takes, place. I'm like, okay. I said, can you, can you tell me anything else? He said that, you know, that, that, I can't believe that this, that I'm, what I'm about to say, how these stories prove each other for two people that don't know each other. He said, John, I don't know anything really else about the film. I know that Victor was a biologist. I never said biologist. He said, but I'll tell you one thing, I remember back in 96 in intelligence circles because we gossiped more than, you know, women at a PTA meeting. And I don't mean to be degrading towards women. But, you know, we gossip more than five guys in a golf outing.

He goes, I remember the director of the documentary doing a deep dive and really having sharp elbows and pissing off intelligence people trying to figure out if Victor was indeed a government employee. Now think about that. Here's Rick Doty telling me a story from 25 years ago that the director who supposedly hired an actor, right? That's what the skeptics say, that the director who supposedly hired an actor is vetting this actor through military people and military intelligence sources and pissing people off. Why would you vet an actor that you hired through central casting? So again, another, you know, another anecdotal story from two people that don't know each other that frisk crossed and overlapped. I mean, Matt, it just, it never ended.

You know, I go on the Internet to the guy that does reverse speech, David Oates, regardless of whether you think of the science of reverse speech, you know, takes a statement, then it plays it backwards and some extraordinary, you know, words come out relating to your subconscious. starts debunking Bob Lazard, Richard Hoagland, the guy that does the Mars anomalies. And then I find where he does Victor, and I'm like, oh, here we go. You know, he's going to bust me. Victor's a fraud. And Victor, in reverse speech, says, from the Pleadies.

And then another party says, in my head, meaning thought projection. And David Oates, a scientist for reverse speech, says, quote, that, in my opinion the whistleblower victor who brought out the alien interview is a highly credible highly credible witness and says who he says he is you know this isn't part of my investigation he i didn't hire david oates to to you know to prove the provenance of my investigation uh far be it um and it came to the point where um i know i'm missing something here um you know it came to the point where I found I just couldn't find anyone to debunk it. And I want to be very clear, Matthew, in 25 years, not one credible person, the person

that built the puppet, a person that worked on the catering for that day during that shoot, the two military men that were in the foreshadow, anybody in the production, no one with any credibility in Hollywood or the government has come forward to say it's debunker. And this is exactly how I can tell you with proof that it's been debunked. Nobody in 25 years. You mean to tell me, Matt, I know you're going to agree with me on this. You mean to tell me in 25 years, the guy that made the puppet isn't at a pool party and Kalabasas, trying to impress the Kardashian girls or some girl, trying to pick up some girl at a pool party.

And, you know, that video of that alien, I did the doll. Nobody can figure out how I did. it on July 18th get excited this is big for the summer's biggest adventure I think I just smirk my pants that's a little too excited smurfs only days July 18th and um you know even like last week we had a super imposed image of the film people said well the aliens black guys all that's a piece of

glass or just a glass ball we did a reverse image like an x-ray of the film, you see the pupils of the eye in back of these black light reflecting lenses because they're light-sensitive of two eyeballs. And you see the pupil getting bigger

and smaller, bigger and smaller as the torchlight is shined in the eyes by the medic or it encounters the light that is above the being. We have pupils dilating on this being. Why would an animatronic person put eyeballs in back of black?

black glass. Nobody's going to see that or realize that. They wouldn't know that. Twenty-five years later, we could prove that it was pupils. And when I had all of this information together, I vetted my sources and no one was coming forward. I took my investigation to Congressman Burchett. I flew to Washington, D.C. I handed this investigation, the internal report, all of the witnesses, the names, the provenance, who Victor was. what occupation he did. He was a biologist. And I handed it to Congressman Timberchette's office who was running and ran the subcommittee hearings on the United States, a government, and UFO and UAP, an alien phenomenon, which was yesterday. And this investigation is submitted into the

one gigabyte packet from Dr. Stephen Greer. It's part of the Disclosure Project. So, and hopefully, I can, you know, have some sort of documentary where we come out with all these names. We go and even in a deeper dive on all these names and bring forth some of the witnesses who would be willing to talk on camera. And I can just kind of package this whole thing together and show the world that, for lack of a better term, in my opinion, I have proven the second greatest question in mankind. You know, are we alone? No.

And does the government know about it? Absolutely. did you talk to the producer of the film Tom Coleman was the CEO of Rocket Pictures I don't know how many more times he could write and tell me on the phone or on Zoom John we did not hire this actor we didn't produce that film

the director who did both documentaries let me talk about the second documentary if this is a all be it for you If this is a hoaxer, Victor, then he's the best one I've ever seen. But the director, Jeff Broadstreet, who did both documentaries, he's almost like frustrated at this point. He's like, how many times can I tell you? Victor was a government biologist. He brought in this film.

I didn't make up this production of an alien, of that alien you see in the film. Yes, they did a B-Role recreation alien to show people before they showed the real film. He said, I was not part. I do not know anyone that was part of that filming. And he goes, John, if it was, it's the worst filming ever. It's one shot. You know, the two military men in the foreshadow, their shoulders come into the view. People have asked, why wasn't it a three camera shot?

They've had these beans since 1947. I was told by a military person, and he pantomined this for me. It's like, you know, oh, okay, the bean's sitting down. Hal, do you have the camera ready? Okay, roll camera. All right, start asking questions. I don't mind to be disrespectful to these beings, but it's old hat by now. They didn't need a three-camera shoot.

They just needed a film this for documentation. It doesn't, just like to some degree, the alien autopsy, which could be a hoax. You're not there for a Hollywood production. You're just there to shoot and be a documentarian of what the action is going on, whether it's blurry or out of focus. and by the way this was never out of focus was never blurry nobody tried to dissuade you and people have asked me why is the room so dark it wasn't dark in the original VHS tape it was bluish kind of grainy the production company darken the film for dramatic effect and I know that probably wasn't the best thing to do but I have the film it's bluish color

it's on YouTube and it's shocking you see the green beans arms you see its chest This was not a darkened room to hide a puppeteer, believe me. And, you know, so it's now with Congress, and, you know, I'm hopefully will be called at some point in the future for a congressional hearing to tell what I, to tell what I know and tell the entire provenance of the film. Now, here's the other one. In 08, 10 years later, Victor comes back for a second documentary. He's livid. Now, Matthew, listen to my words because this is where I want you to mentally unpack this. If this is a charlatan, he comes back.

He is livid. I risk my life, my career, my pension to help the UFO world and to tell the American people what is going on with the government. And not one UFO researcher has done any, this is an 08, has done any kind of a serious investigation of my film, of the alien. prove it's a puppet, prove that it's real, prove who I am. And Jeff Broadstreet, the director says, well, many people in the UFO world, listen to this, many people in the UFO world believe that it's real. Victor gets pissed at that statement. He goes, I don't want people to take it at face value.

That's all they're doing is taking it at face value. And these charlatans affects people, these egomaniacs that I could have built that. Victor says, we'll build one. built one that looks and moves exactly like that alien in the picture. Now, I don't know about you, but I don't know many charlatans that come back out and go, come on, come on, prove me wrong, prove the film, and mad at people. Now, if I was a charlatan, I would say, yeah, people believe me. Here's who believe me.

This guy is mad at the people that believe him, because in his words, they're just taking it at face value. He said he's dying in the second follow-up documentary. He says to look up where Donald Rumsfeld was on Easter of 1998. I did that through the Rumsfeld Foundation. He was having dinner in Taos, New Mexico, which is coincidentally the nearby home of the Dulce base, which whether is real or not. I did everything Victor asked. You know, where is the person that is going to do the deep dive on this and prove it right or wrong, authentic or hoax? I did just that, and I just don't feel that a charlatan would come out and egg people on.

And also what people don't understand, right before the original documentary, Victor goes on the Art Bell program, radio show, unrehearsed, unscripted questions, and sits there for an hour and a half. I've never heard someone speak this intelligently before in my life about the program, the people, the facility, the beans themselves. It was remarkable. so if this guy's a charlatan um i tell you what he wasn't a hollywood actor so who was this victor who didn't drive was retired in his late 50s who brought out this 100 to 150,000 dollar production of an alien being and then comes back to challenge people that that doesn't pass the litmus test as being a hoax all right so here's my my question but what i'm i must not i don't understand so so the you know the the the basic story is what that these aliens crashed here

is it one alien or multiple aliens crashed here the you know where do they crash is this the roswell crash and they were they were taken into a military base and kept until that time and periodically they've been interviewed and one of the interviews got out that's the crux of the of the story i can i can unpack that a little bit um through anecdotal stories and a photo we believe the first body of a being of an extracial being happened in the 30s dr stephen greer has this bizarre autopsy photo of a bizarre creature in military men and uh osi agents people men in you suit standing by and taking a picture with this The, you know, the Holy Grail of Uphology was in 1947 when two craft crashed over the area, basically, of Roswell, New Mexico.

Two? Four beings were inside the craft that crashed. Three were dead, taken to Fort Worth. One was alive, and that was taken to Los Alamos laboratories. where it lived until 1951 or two. For the past 80 years, there have been numerous crash and crash retrievals. The crash retrieval program, there's two of them. One is called Project Pounce and one is called Project Star, S-T-A-A-A-R.

These are the retrieval programs of Special Air Force servicemen who go out at a moment's notice to retrieve the craft and any other occupants. or pilots. And this has been going on since 1947. And it's a great question. This bean, we think, I cannot prove this, and I don't have any evidence to prove, but this is what I've been told that this bean came from a crash in the Kalahari Desert in 1989. And Victor said that the bean came to this facility in 1989. And the other being of that crash went to the super secret facility underground at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. And Wright-Patterson is very important because it was the Foreign Materials Division.

If they had a crash plane in the 40s, it was taken there to dissect and, you know, reverse engineers, so to speak. So Wright-Pat plays a very important key to this whole thing. Matthew, we have anecdotal stories where there are so many crashes and so many bodies that bodies are stored at Homestead, Air Force Base. in Florida, Michael's Airfield, the new home of Area 51 at the Dugway Proving Grounds, Sandia Labs at a time on the basement facility at Walter Reed Hospital, Fort Worth Army Airfield, of course, initially at the Roswold Airfield in 1947,

and a couple of other facilities that I am not privy to. But the new high-tech airfield, The new Area 51 is the Dougway Proving Grounds, which is part of Michael's Airfield or Army Airfield is part of. And coincidentally, Sandia Labs has a huge facility on that, on that base also. So these things are, so there's, there's many, many crashes. I mean, NASA's got a better track record than that. I mean, you know, so what, what, so what is your, um, you know, based on your, you know, actual research and not just listening to Chris Marrero,

which is my buddy that I have on every once in a while, not just believing everything you read and actually doing some research and speaking with people that, you know, are in the know. What is the consensus of why they are coming here and what is the issue with the crashes? Great question. from three people that were either in that facility dealt with the beans or were at, you know, on top level of that facility. One of the reasons the government is not coming out and saying, here you go, folks, we have aliens, is even after 80 years,

they're still not quite convinced of what the nature is, how many species there are. And when the government doesn't know something fully, they usually don't project that and tell the people, yeah, we have species of beings here and we have no idea what the real reason that they're here for. And according to people down there, so this is an anecdotal story. But, you know, from Victor, from Captain Danvers, who was a pathologist at level S4, is that Victor believe that some of the beings have allowed themselves to be shot, to be acquired,

to be targeted, to crash, almost like a, and he gives the example, almost like Jesus Christ coming on to our planet, knowing that he's going to be crucified. I think that was a really good analogy that Victor said. And we also have developed technology, a bean-like technology back in the 80s, of targeting, acquiring, targeting, and engaging these craft in bringing them down. And the 1947, the infamous Roswell trash, you know, Richard Doty now tells people, and this is backed up by other people, is that the United States government, and Stephen Greer even backs us up. And him and Doty, you know, are, you know, are not, you know, on the same team, so to speak, that in 1947, the government first turned on this type of radar was so powerful that in conjunction with an electrical storm caused interoperative. interference with these beans craft.

You know, people say, well, they're 10,000 years advanced of us. You know, also, too, the adages, folks, I believe, and look at America and look at the world today, the more technically advanced you are, you know, the more susceptible you are to very minor things, you know, knocking out your entire, your entire system. I mean, look what can take down the world now, a computer bug, a coronal ejection from the sun can wipe out all, all man. kind in a matter of 90 days. So it is, you know, these beans. Well, I was, I was actually thinking about, I mean, let's face it, you can have, you can have all the high tech equipment you want. You can

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that era hits you in the right spot, you're going down. It doesn't matter that you're completely draped in, you know, Kevlar. Yeah. You know, he hits you in the neck. You're just done. Yeah. And that's, you know, that's what 4,000 year old technology. Right.

And Matthew, people have said, well, you know, and forgive me when I make fun of the internet keyboard warriors, but, you know, that, you know, it's, they deserve the criticism at times for their ad hominin attacks. Well, you know, why? is it stories are different why beings are here why are there some crash some get captured you know some abduct people i say that the world is like the amazon in 1820 did british explorers go there for science yes did british explorers go there for geography yes did british explorers go there for um zoology and to capture all kinds of animal life and maybe tag it and analyze it yes okay

Did some people from Britain or around the world go to the Amazon and the 1800s or recreation and vacation and adventure? Yes. Well, why are we different? I know it's an ego deflation that we are no longer sitting on top of the food chain, that these beans are on top of the food chain. You know, they're the DNR, the Department of Natural Resources, and we're the deer. You know, they're tagging our ear. As people say, they got to put devices in them to track them. they're extracting semen and ova from human beings like we do to animals sometimes the capture

and tagging goes well sometimes it doesn't go well and people or animals die you know we we're the farm we're the wildlife now and i know that's an ego blow but i've come to grips with it and i can deal with it and i think other people should too so there's a variant in my opinion reason why these beings are coming here. Another thing, why did we go to Egypt or Africa in the 1800s to mine gold and silver and precious metals? Well, why can't they? Well, you know, gold is an incredible astro physical metal that is great for, you know, space travel and space applications. We know that from NASA. Why wouldn't they come here and try to mine our goal? What makes them so special and angelic, you know. So the reasons why they crashed, why they abduct, why they're here,

I think, is the, you know, the British explorer in the Amazon River analogy. I think it's, I think it's a perfect representation of the who and why. And maybe nobody will ever know the full total truth. And I'm going to try and jar people here, maybe piss a couple of people off. I want to do that. I'm not a revolutionary. I'm not an interloper. I want to help. I want to help the military come out of the closet with this. I want this to be clear because I know military people, intelligence people, listen to all these podcasts. I've been told that by now, 10 people.

And I want to be clear. I want to jar the American public who's listening to this because this should piss you off. Scott Walter is a TV star of a show called American on Earth on the History Channel. I get back in better view. You've been slowly moving over. Yeah. Scott is, goes on camera about a year and a half ago.

say that he's really interested in the UFO phenomenon and, and like me, gets contacted by somebody in the program. And this gentleman worked at Wright Pat for the National Air and Space Intelligence Center. And he claimed that he was in the know of this alien phenomenon. Became very good friends with Scott. Scott vetted him, met with him, at dinner with him. And for nine months, Scott tried to convince this person to do an interview with me and to maybe do an interview on camera to appear on my, you know, documentary if I ever want out. So he called me up

and a very nice young man. I want people to have very, very nice, polite young man. And we were talking, you know, he says that the black strips over some of the beings, eyes are a biological light lens reflector. And, but he said something bizarre. He said, I'm going to tell you something. and you're probably one of the only few civilians that know this. And I'm going to tell you this now, your listeners now on this show. He told me the new designation that the United States government who deals with this phenomenon and subcontractors have for extraterrestrials, it's saber like a sword, synthetic astrobiological extraterrestrial races.

And he said, you know, no one knows that. He goes, you tell a general that you had a cocktail party in Washington that's maybe read into these programs, that an acronym. And, you know, they're going to look like they swallow a peach pit. And so I'm like, well, I really appreciate your trusting me with that. And I thank you. And he said, send me the questions for your documentary. And I will submit it to my commanding officer.

So I'm assuming that he's probably military. And I will get back to you. I submitted 20 questions that were very explosive, that came point blank. Does the government have alien bodies and craft? do you know of that personally am i in trouble um what is the else does the government know about aliens and extraterrestrials he ghost me for three months and i'm worried because this guy's a bona fide military person in an alien program at right path so i finally just after three months i i texted scott walter i'm like scott this is crazy i want to know is this man alive is he in

trouble? And I guess more importantly, am I in trouble? Is my life in danger? Why would he ghost me? And about two hours later, Holden, that was his nickname, his name that he gave himself, which is from Catcher in the Rye, text me back. And now it's this aggressive purse, matter of fact, text with all these coding. He was such a gentleman. It was almost like somebody from the DOD or a higher up wrote this form, you put this now, you send this to John Stewart. We're going to stop that, you know, we're going to stop that jerk right off. We're going to cut his legs off metaphorically. And it said, I am been commanded by someone higher than my CEO to cease and desist all contact with you. I am asking you, you are not to cut, drop, share this text message. You are no longer

to contact me. And this should piss you off. You are now on. a special government watch list due to your frequent and the nature of your FOIA requests, your overseas emails, and the nature of your questionnaire that you submitted to the National Air and Space Intelligence Center. And beneath that, Matthew, is this bizarre, all I can say is like Department of Defense coding under Regulation 227-515 stroke A, recopying of this text message is for firmly, you know, you, I'm mixing up the word, firmly, you know, admonished by the United States Department of Defense,

all of these anachronyms and weird letter, you know, letters jumbled together. I'm like, how am I reading? Like it came from somebody from the military. I called Doty two hours later, just as Doty knows all this nomenclature. Doty was livid that this guy was told to tell. me, I'm on a special watch list. Rick Doty, this counterintelligence guy, was like such a proponent for me. He's like, that's illegal.

He goes, that's illegal. How dare they say that to you? That's a disgrace that the military would tell an American citizen that they're on some kind of special watch list. You know, it's the first time I ever angered or saw this mild-mannered Richard Doty get completely, you know, come out, totally unglued. And I'm asking the American people, do you feel a little bothered that a 56-year-old grandfather who's just trying to find the truth about a film that they accidentally let out 25 years ago that I'm putting on a special watch list? It's crazy.

We live in a constitutional republic. I don't live in Stalingrad in 1943, and I certainly don't live in Berlin in 1944. for that was really troublesome and the fact that this man was told to ghost me and i initially thought he was david grush um but i was told by scott that he is not the david grush that came forward um but that that was that was really troubling that was really the only time in this investigation where i was truly upset and worried and pissed off and i think people out there listening they should be equally bothered by someone from the pentagon telling me you're on a special watch list, you know, come on.

I even get distrust relating the story again. But that was it. That's really the investigation in a nutshell. What did you think about the congressional hearings yesterday? Was it a hearing? Is that what it was? Oh, yeah. It was a hearing.

It was a hearing by the United States Congress to clear the air and come clean with the American people about the UFO, UAP, alien phenomenon. And 27 times in the hearings it was said, wait, what was that? Yeah, I can't talk. It was just the same thing over and like, they basically took the same interviews that they've been having and they just got

them all together in the same room. Right. We want to come clean. We want the American people to trust the government. So that's why we're letting 37 times say, I can't tell you that right now, Congressman, I have to tell you in private. I can only tell you that Congresswoman is Skiff, a secure room.

I can only tell you that off camera. I can show you the documents, but I can't tell you. I mean, that was supposed to make everyone believe that Congress is coming clean. They stop mocking our citizenship and belittling us. Please, don't have them in private. Don't have people come out and say in front of the American people, I can't talk about that. I'll tell you in private.

Wink, you know, give me a break. okay so that's a you weren't happy with that um what do you i have a question for you what do you think about the uh the navy footage of the tick toc videos of the ticot uh UFOs i think that because there was no rivets there was no propulsion system in back or wings um you know even though the government has reproduct reproduction uh alien craft you know, you still see rivets, you still see seams, you still see some sort of propulsion in the back, that the fact that these TikToks were defying gravity and upwards of 60,000 feet in one second did not have any seams or visible propulsion, that that was indeed a craft

from an exotic, unknown origin. And what David Grush was choking on his words on News Nation is is the fact that some of these beans in craft, folks, as crazy as this sounds, are interdimensional. Let me give you an anecdotal story. I'm at a coffee shop. I'm being shown these photos of these beans. I said, what is P55,000? What's P42,000? We have 42,000 aliens.

And the military person says, no, that's not how many we have. P42,000 means that's a being from 42,000 years into the human lineage. future. I'm like, can you unpack that for me? And I know you unpack that for me. And I know you was unpack a lot. Can you explain that? He's like, John, aliens are not from our human lineage. They're from other galaxies, other planets, other star systems. When we call beings ETs, those are beings from the human lineage. Now, human lineage also has been transplanted on other solar systems and star systems and whatnot. And also these beings, some of them, are interdimensional and this is being proven that travel interdimensionally um is possible is

theoretically possible so when this person was telling me that i'm looking at a photo of a beam from 42 000 years into our future you know very disconcerning you know it was mind-boggling to me um the information that i that i've been given it was a coffee shop i'm not going to say i'm not going to say the name was a coffee shop in chicago yeah Oh, I love meeting witnesses at coffee shops and restaurants. I love eating, as people can tell with my double cheese. And Matthew, it breaks down the, helps with the breakdown of formality and trust and whatnot. You can, they can see how I treat a waitress.

I can see how they treat a waitress. I can see their eyes, you know. And when they're eating or drinking a cup of coffee, you know, you can really waday somebody and do the sniff test and tell if they're telling you the truth or not. So, yeah, I love meeting people at restaurants and coffee shops and diners and stuff. Okay. So, you know, it's funny, the alien autopsy video. I remember the girl I was dating when that came out.

She ordered it for me. That was like one of my Christmas presents. I remember I had, I actually had that on VHS. Right. You know? Right. So. Can I just.

say one thing about that? Sure. You know, first it's real, now it's a hoax, then it's real. I just want to tell people, show you my investigative prowess. I'm not bragging. I'm just something to think about. Two broke, financially broke men in England put together that film. Okay, great. It was shot on 1947 Kodak film stock, 16 millimeter. And can someone explain how two broke people in London, rented a World War II era hangar, Air Force hangar, rented five jeeps, made six bodies of aliens, had 15 people in period 1940s army attire and military police attire, along with six stretchers, and film that production for the last five seconds of the alien

autopsy. Don't believe me. I want your viewers to tell me if they, the alien autopsy is a total hoax. How could two people, again, it's just like my film. How can two broke guys, financially broke guys in London, have a $40,000 production where they're renting an airplane hangar with beans on stretchers and people in period clothes? Does that make any sense to anyone? So I don't know one of those things about the alien autopsy but i know about the last five seconds and if you're going to tell me that that isn't a real shot from the 40s of five uh extraterrestrial humanoid looking beings being laid on the ground in front of an air force a hangar um sorry sorry i'm not buying i was going to say even to be able to to be able to um create uh the aliens

like that's just not average you the average person doesn't have that acquitted equipment in their base, you know, in their, you know, in their garage. Like, I mean, it takes, you have to pay somebody serious money to come up with those types of things. Right. So, okay, is there anything else that we haven't gone over that you'd like to go over? I just, you know, I just want to say in a recap, uh, thank you sincerely for having me on your program. Um, I thank you to your listeners, you know, I know at times I seem exuberant and people said, I have crazy eyes at times. Hey, look, I'm excited that after five years I'm done with this investigation, that I think that I've proved a really important cover up in human history. I'm excited that

I can finally spend quality time with my wife and in my daughters. And I'm excited to bring it to you. So I'm sorry for exuberance. And people have said, well, he talks like he's been debrief by the government. I have been debriefed by the government. I, you know, remember, military intelligence, insiders retired, came to me and debriefed me, read me into these programs. And this program, so we can be clear, the overall program to study all things aliens and the phenomenon from 1947 is majestic. The program at this facility where this film was shot is called Project Aquarius, and that is all things with aliens, the back engineering, reverse engineering of craft, the examination of biological tissue, the examination of beans, what they say,

what they thought project, and their propulsion, their guidance systems, their life support systems, so on and so forth. That is called Project Aquarius. And so, you know, take this, you know, listen to the anecdotal stories. Don't so much focus on the film. Although when you do focus on it, zoom in, this creature shows emotion at the end. He almost looks exasperated when they're wiping the fluid from his mouth and his lower lip does a bar, you know, a curved down arch. That had to be hard anatronically to do back then and to do it instantaneously.

And I offer people, do your own homework, do your own research. I sincerely thank you for listening to me. And we will solve this situation and this phenomenon. I truly think that this is going to bring the American people together. And if you want to use this as a TikTok clip, then let me say this. And I'm going to speak very clearly and not mince my words. I'm going to tell you something right now. When the underserved and the minority communities of this country finally start paying attention to the congressional hearings

and realizing that $8 trillion of their money, money that could have been used for homeschooling, daycare, recreation center, college education, transportation for single mothers and the elderly, help with medicine and tuition. When the underserved of this country, and I'm one of them, gets win and starts paying attention, that their government, go for it away $8 trillion to study tissue of aliens and reproduce alien craft, you are going to see some sort of a bloodless revolution. take place in this country. And I want to tell the congressmen and subcontractors who have been lying about this, when that happens, they're not coming to my house.

They're going to come to yours. And you remember what I'm saying here. And I am not threatening anyone. I am warning people in the government. Let's come lean now. Let's avoid the revolt. Thank you. All right.

I was going to say something that had kind of come out where it was like the idea of the shadow government or the shadow kind of that shadow body of the government that is hiding these things or you know which which is always funny to me that the Pentagon you know every you know is always missing billions of dollars every year you know that always kills me like where does that. money goes like okay well then these these these things have to be funded where's the money coming from well i mean the government is the absolute worst with money they're constantly losing money and i and i and i disagree because here here's why i know you know where that money is because i have a friend that deposited to um you know the covid the relief checks here he had he he had somebody who came to him and gave him to fake 1200 or I think it might be three, three fake $1,200 COVID checks. He deposited them in his bank account.

They cleared, of course, because they were government checks. Now, they were fake. They were, you know, they were counterfeit. He got the money. And within a year, people from the government showed up and wanted to know that they knew exactly where the money had gone, that he'd gotten it, tracked it down. You're going to, you're going to spend probably. $20, $30,000 on an investigation, another $50,000 for an investigation and to house him in jail for $3,600.

You spent almost $100,000 to track down $3,600, which you'll probably never get back. But you don't know where a billion dollars went. Right. That went to the Pentagon. That is all electronic. They didn't bring it in. No, Matthew, they can't, they can't, they don't know where it went. It's just, you know.

Yeah, that's, we don't know what happened to $3 trillion. We're sorry. You know, like even if you were to say, hey, you know what, we cashed it all out and we used it as bribes. Well, then say that. Right. For other countries, we needed these people to vote this way on these committees in their country so we could get a base here. I'm good with that. Yeah, me too.

You bribed some people in, in India to get a base or to get a, um, on, um, contract, I'm okay with that. Right. Tell me, exactly. It's Donald Rumsfeld, you know, a day before 9-11, the government, the Pentagon can account for some $3 trillion. In a plane, it's the Pentagon exactly in the accounting room where this accounting era occurred.

No suspicion on that. No worry about it. Let's move on. Let's see what's on Wheel of Fortune tonight. Right. It's a joke. It's an insult. part of what propelled me to keep going when people laughed at me and people were boasting me

and maligning me, you know, if we can't have financial accountability to the people that pay the bills, you and I, you know, and that's another thing that one military intelligence insider told me, he's like, John Stewart owns S4, you know, Matthew Cox owns part of that B-52. We own the building. We own the chairs Congress sits on. You work for us. It's not a cliche. You work for us.

I go out and work my butt off in the automobile industry and in real estate and the stock market to pay taxes to pay for all of this. You work for me. You know, and now, in a real, you know, the Pentagon's smart. Now it's been said that all of this material, biological and craft and metals is all with private contractors. and corporations. Why? Because you can't FOIA them. They have a right to privacy.

The generals are like, we're done. It's in with my buddies. And when I retire, I'm going to go work for EG and GNG, Raytheon and Boeing. I have no problem with that. I have no problem with, you know,

somebody going to get a job that, you know, at EG and G or Raytheon when they were, I have no problem with that. But let's keep everything on the up and up. And now, let's come out and tell the people about this, but all of it's with corporations, you can't FOIA.

Well done, boys. Well done. Got to hand it to you. Listen, I appreciate you coming on. I appreciate you contacting me. And I'm assuming at some point during this post or this video that Colby will play the, the autopsy, the video.

It may be at the end of the video. It may be during the video. I'm not sure where. he'll play it but he can zoom up on the photo at the end when the doctors come in oh my god it's it's draw dropping to see the emotion the facial expressions the eye socket changing shape the mouth opening closing instantaneously it's amazing

well send me the link if you can I will I'm going to send you the the superimposition the x-ray view where you see the pupils of the eyeballs behind the black eyes I will when I get done with this and get out of this grant podcast room I will I will send you, I will send email you the links. We'll do. Hey, this is Matt Cox. I appreciate you guys watching. Do me a favor. Join my Patreon. It's $10 a month. That's really nothing. I appreciate you guys watching. If you, if you like the video, share it.

Also, subscribe. Hit the bell so you get notified of videos like this. Leave some comments in the comment section. I'm sure John will be perusing it. And I'm sure you guys can have a lively. discussion. And we're going to be on with Chris Marrero. We're going to be talking about a variety of things spanning from Bigfoot to aliens to the moon landing, which Chris has a whole conspiracy thing on the moon landing. And we're going to be talking about the aliens that landed in Las Vegas because aliens like gambling too, I guess. So we don't know. I don't No, we're going to find it, but we're going to check it out. It's going to be great. Check this video out. Okay, so what are we going to talk about? Well, you want to start off with Bigfoot. So we're going to go in, dude, I'm going to go into Bigfoot and the dog man and wolfman and lizard people. And then, dude, you wouldn't believe what's happening in the national forests. It's unbelievable. I love it. People are missing and going missing and never being found. Like, for example, you in.

and your wife could be walking on a trail and you could disappear and it's like you were just here a minute ago and now you're gone never to be seen again i'll tell you some stories it's crazy um yeah as i was studying some bigfoot stuff um the biggest uh i mean there's so many people that have seen bigfoot or or in florida skunk ape you know since we're in global They call them skunk cape Because they smell so bad Why don't why don't they ever have their their iPhones with them Like I I don't I don't go from one room of my house to the other room

Without without my iPhone But on the forest it's you don't always get a signal I guess you know I mean you're out in the National Forest or whatever But one of the one of the guys who does About the missing 411 is a guy named David Polis he's a former police officer and he's noted anywhere from 1600 to 2,000 people that have missing in the forest that just never seen again just gone maybe they're lost maybe they get lost and then they go believe me he's a cop he goes through all the all the different sections of

what could have been it could have been an attack could have been a suicide could have been they got lost could have been they just got hurt and then there's a whole section of people that just vanish disappear out of thin air and it's crazy but let me go fat real quick with with uh this crazy with uh bigfoot i was i was listening to some of the stuff he was talking about and he was uh because they have found hairs you know on on different trees and things like that and they try to get them to a um a person does DNA testing and what they found out through my monochronchondrial tests, the medulla and the big foot is useless. They need the actual follicle.

And they found out that they're not Neanderthals. They're not denovenicens. They are another form of Homo sapiens. Is that bizarre. So. Hairy people? Yeah. When they're doing the hair, to determine it, there's no other entity that

has this kind of hair. So she has to create a method to unlock the testing for the DNA that she created. Because they didn't even have it for this, well, I don't want to say animal. She's saying it's another form of Homo, Homo sapiens, that the hairs were absolutely unique. They're a modern human, and they have developed for the last 15,000 years. Go figure that one. So, because of something called Gendac, you can know where the male comes from and where the female comes from. For example, you know, if you do ancestry.com, you can see where your, you know, relatives came from, you know, Europe or Russia or whatever they came from.

Your father and your mother came from there. but the lineage with this the sample of the lineage of the mother they can find but they cannot trace the lineage of the father from the DNA that has

that they can't trace it for whatever reason it's very strange and all the tests come back from different tests as human but a very very unique human so and they also have found out that they

can cloak themselves and they can shape shift they can disappear but they're they're super hairy oh super hairy super massive you know eight nine feet tall or what about is it possible that they're italian they're very very and they smell bad real bad so if you ever go in in the woods i'm half italian you're not hairy And if you ever go in the woods, if you suddenly hear everything go quiet, like the cricket stop, the frog stop, the bird stop chirping, you know they're nearby, you're in trouble. So, that's the end up.

Even Teddy Roosevelt, they said, had an encounter with the way back when. They also said, it's better if you're on horseback. If you're on horseback, you've got to get the human odor off the ground. and you'll have more of contact with them if you're on horseback. Well, I'm never in, you're not going to believe this. I know you look at me and you think would be. This is a guy that hangs out in the woods, but I really don't. A damn blue kind of guy.

I honestly never leave the house. We're in Florida and I don't like walking to the car in the driveway. So, yeah, I'm not going to be in the woods. You would never go out in the woods? The only way I would ever see one of these is if somebody had their iPhone with them and captured it like on camera, you know, on the camera because I'm not going out out in the wood. Well, they've caught a few on camera.

One was the Patterson film back in, I think it was 60-something. But they, that was one of the most famous actual getting a, a Bigfoot on camera. It was a Patterson Gillen actual photograph that they got. But I want to get also to the, you got to have David Pilates on your show, man. If you can get him, he's really great. He has a, his website is canam missing.com, meaning Canadian America, canam, is David Politis, P-A-U-L-I-D-E-S, and he's written several books, one of them being missing 411. And he's got so many people.

Let me just do you here. This is the National Forest guy that... Yosemite's the worst. He says Yosemite's the worst. Yellowstone, Yosemite. You go in there, go camping and what, what does he think? Something. You think he thinks Bigfoot's grabbing them? No. No. Not at all. There'd be a hustle and noise and screaming if that was the case. But no, Bigfoot's not taking them. I'll give me an example. There was the one called Stacey Eris. 30 years ago

Yosemite She went she was on horse She was horseback riding Got off went walk down to a boulder trail To take some pictures and disappeared Never been seen since 30 years ago Maybe it was there like a well

Like one of those little No no So what does he think happens They don't just disappear I realize there are search and rescue guys Into the hundreds That are searching everywhere And what's bizarre is places that they have already searched and gone over several times, they suddenly come back and there's the body sometimes.

What happened to them? They don't know. Well, they've got to have a pathologist that goes in there and cuts them up. Yeah, but the person says they just died and they've been gone for, could be several days, weeks. And sometimes really weird is that the weather changes automatically. the weather will rain hard for like three days or will snow really hard for like three, four days that really hinders the rescue missions. It's really bizarre. Get a little to this. This was February 7, 2018, Danny Philippetus 49, a Toronto fire captain,

28 years on the force. He's at a place called Whiteface Ski Resort in Lake Placid, New York, about 40 miles south of the Canadian border. He was with a group guys on vacation. when one of his friends got tired but then he said you know i want to take one last run so he goes and he disappears six days they do searches for him for six days his car is still in the parking lot they figure he still has he has to be on the mountain so days go by and a week later he calls his wife from Sacramento, California with a head injury. And he doesn't know how he got there. He was in New York. Ended up in California. That sounds like fire in the skies. Do you ever see that movie based on those guys? The law is. Travis Walton, yeah. Yeah. That's it. That's interesting because

they've never, like, their stories have never wavered 30 years later, 40 years later, they're like, never never wanted anything for it never guy still works in the same industry like it's like any of the benefits he could have had from lying about that or the group of them lying about it what benefit was there he was mocked the rest of his life he worked in the same field never tried to make any money off it yeah there's no benefit there's no benefit so it's like some people it's like okay well they're trying to cash in like bob lazar really cashed in you know if he was making up If Bob Lazar was making up all of his stuff. Oh, he's been through some shit, too.

Well, I know what I'm saying. At least he can say, I made a career of this bullshit. All right. But these other guys, the guys, which Travis, like, there was no benefit. Like, those guys were mocked the rest of their life. Like, they didn't want anything to do with it. Some of them moved away. They went to different industries.

They denied it. And Travis Walton was missing, I think it was for five days. And during that time, the cops did a whole search in the area that he was, supposedly missing. And after those, I think like three days, because they kept asking the guys that, you know, come on, what did you do with them? They killed them. Yeah. And they wanted to arrest them. And so they were, they did, um, light detector chest. They all came through with, were flying colors, but they still wanted to arrest them and then put him in prison for it. And then also, you know, Walton shows up five, six days later, says, hey, here I am. Well, he, he showed up

naked in the middle of the night like it's not like you showed up like hey I just like gosh where am I now he showed it like traumatized he's naked calls a fucking pay phone hadn't eaten in like five days and had a growth beard he didn't know he was he was gone five days yeah that's a good story that's a good

but anyway so you were this guy the guy with the head injury yeah he says he has a slight memory a slight memory of being dropped by a trucker at Sacramento Airport with a new haircut. What if the trucker picked him up did things to him?

And gave him a haircut because he also liked to cut hair. Maybe he was suppressing, like maybe his father wanted him to be a trucker. He wanted to be a hairdresser. Every once in a while, he picked up some guy, he knocks him out, gives him a good haircut, and drops him off along his route. but he has no memory of anything he called the sheriff and they take picture of him still wearing the ski outfit he had and the helmet well the trucker didn't have a change of clothes for him no but i'm saying he has no memory of anything the next he hit him in that the trucker might have hit him in the head that's possible i'm just saying there's an explanation for them from the ski slope i'm saying the trucker was driving by he saw this guy he thought hey that guy needs the haircut I've always wanted to be, you know, like a, I always wanted to be like a, whatever, a hairdresser.

He hits him in the head to knock him out, cuts his hair, and then keeps going on his route and drops him off, like, in Seattle or wherever he is. And so all he remembers is I was on the ski slope. I got hit in the head. I woke up in fucking Seattle with this haircut. How crazy is that? Like, how do you, how do you? We got to find this trucker. Get a load of this one.

this guy and I don't remember the guy's name he goes by himself to go hiking in the woods during the wintertime you know the snow is on he just wants to go out get some peace of mind and he goes out

and eventually they find his tracks end where he was walking in the snow you know there's nowhere to go you know your track's there and it's gone he's disappeared 18 months later

He's found He finds himself in a cornfield in Kansas With new shoes Sneakers New backpack and he has no memory of anything Where he's been? Nothing Nothing If he was if like a spaceship picked him up

I get that But typically the spaceships when they pick these guys up And you know they do stuff to them they don't usually give them a new backpack and shoes. Los Angeles is a consolation price. Look, I know that you've been gone six months. We probably disrupted your life, but we have some Nikes and a new and a really cool backpack. Like that, that one, that's new.

I've never heard that. It's, I swear to God, I'm not lying to you. This is, this is truth. They already had a funeral for him and everything. He calls his grandmother or whatever and then tells them, hey, I'm alive. Come pick me up. And he didn't think he was gone any time either. He's gone 18 months.

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Another one is Dr. Jonathan Torgas. Wait a minute, Chris, can you move the camera down so that I can, because you're basically, I'm getting your forehead. That's the most That's the best I'll try to Look up here like this

That's fine Dr. Jonathan Torgison Physician for Montana White Fish Montana This was February 18th 2018 White Fish Mountain ski area Also 40 miles south Canadian border

Went skiing He had an avalanche beacon his cell phone he never came home multiple counties searched for him they went to wear his phone last ping and nothing he was a physician who was uh of high intelligent high intellect which disappeared more which happens a lot they say that he's saying that the people that disappear the most are people who are of a high intellect or have a disability that nobody knew of So you're safe

Like diabetes or something like that So this will never happen to you Or I need to work I need to look out This is really bizarre Ready for this? Yes

Or they're of German descent Okay I'm I'm I'm Nordic I'm from Norway So I'm once again Oh you're close by I'm close But

I'll dodge the bullet there You're Italian and what I'm half Italian and half Cuban Oh yeah But my grandmother was German The next one is Ryan Schutga

Employee of a ski resort Called Sun Peaks He was at an end of the season party Walking home from the party Down to the street And disappears Gone No one's seen from since

Multiple search parties Hundreds of people No evidence he left the village And that's it No one knows anything He's gone from forever and these is he's never showed back up never okay listen we're not in the forest though anymore we're still in the national forest yeah you're still in the national forest these are like

you know like cabins and things like that that they have there that they might have a party and he goes home or whatever okay another one is thomas malarkey bear valley california he was an electrician he was an advanced skier had a cabin nearby with his wife they had had, again, an army of search teams were grounded because it was snowing so hard. 35 inches of snow fell in 72 hours, which is a lot for that area. And

they never found him. Gone. Missing. Just evaporated. There's no clothing. There's no boots. There's no nothing. There's no kidnapping. He could have just fake off. Listen to this. The dogs can't even

track a scent. The dogs go and then they come back. and they lay down. They can't even these are dogs who are used to it. They love it. They love the hunt. They can't even get a sense.

Oh, that's okay. That's okay. That doesn't. These guys could have taken off. That guy could have taken off on the wife. You know, it's the ones that come back to say there are three states away that go, I have no idea.

Those are the ones that are crazy. All right. Well, let me give you this one. How about the ones that are two-year-old children that disappear? year and they end up 10 miles away on a top of a mountain

and they can't explain it well who finds them on the top of the child they find the child but it's like several days later he's fine but he's on top of a mountain 10 miles away a two year old can't do that

well who's on top of the mountain to find them well the search teams search teams go all over the place. Okay. They don't fuck around. There's some great site.

YouTube things you should go see if you're interested in this kind of stuff. What Lurks Beneath is a good show. Donovan Dredd is another one. Coast to coast with George Noree. Have you heard of those? Coast to coast, yeah, of course. and the

what lurks underneath or something like that sounds familiar yeah I gave that to you a long time ago I don't know if you want to see you yet I watch about one out of every every probably one out of every two or three that you send me some of times you'll send them to me like three times four times I'm like he sent this one to me twice

did you see the one I sent you today the one with the big they were like they were big tall people big foot hairy yeah but one of them was one of the dog man the wolf man that I think they shot it can you see that? Oh yeah no I did I saw that there was no sound

that could be the dog yeah but look at the body hold on look at the body it's gonna show the legs in the ass in a minute look that's a human dude and another one is U-A-M-N-TV

cosmic agency cosmic agency is great Cosmic Agency is run by his YouTube channel by a woman named Gosha and she's been interviewing the Palladians Gosha.

Gosha. She's from Poland. You know her, right? No, no. No? No. I thought you knew her. I thought you tried to get me to interview somebody that was a woman that was like a sovereign citizen or something. No, Sharon. No, Sharon.

Okay. What didn't you ever call her? I don't know because honestly I'm not even supposed to be really interviewing anybody that's not directly involved in either like law enforcement like criminal cases or something to do with true crime like I'm my booking agent I'm always telling him he's always trying to get me to other people and I'm like no bro I'm just doing true crime just true crime but you know you're different you you're I you're a crossover because you you are a criminal that's why I Your whole, I'm innocent thing. So what else do you want to know? What about, so what about, okay, so that was, you know, we never been, I never even asked about, about national forest abductions or disappearances. I thought we were going to talk about aliens. What's going on with the, what's going on with the Las Vegas thing?

Well, so far that, as far as I know, that, you know, the last thing. was, uh, I think the last thing I sent you was that they had, uh, it on video from a security camera. Did you see that one? Well, yeah, but they also, the body cam from the police officer where they, and it, that could be a, um, you know, that could just be a, uh, uh, like a, a, a, a falling star, what do you know, that could have just been anything, an astro on it, comment, whatever, yeah. Yeah, could, that could be anything that they saw that. It's the, The kids in the back of the house who say they saw these things, which of course, once again, you know, I keep saying, well, they don't have, they didn't have a cell phone. They couldn't. And of course, everybody's like, they're like 12 or 13 year old boys. Like, no, they don't have a cell phone.

They're, you know, they're Mexican kids. And, you know, that went in the backyard. They didn't have their phone. They don't have a, you're 12, 13 years old. You don't necessarily have a cell phone. So I get that. But I was wondering if anything else has been heard or come out in the community. because I know you're a part of the I know you're a part of the the inner circle in the yeah but not from Vegas no nothing has happened that I know of yet um have you ever heard of what happened in Brazil no it's called a Parisian Brazil or whatever it is moment of contact that was the actual documentary

by Jamie Fox no no Jamie who what yeah it's not the same Jamie Fox is the different Jamie Foxes the different Jamie Fox, where this UFO crashed and it's the same kind of situation there were two aliens that were actually walking through

going around town and these three girls actually saw one of them actually against like a wall and they were terrified. They didn't know what the hell it was. I thought it was a demon because they're, you know, Catholic and they thought it was a demon. and this thing was actually telepathically telling them, you know, I'm kind of scared, I'm hurt, you know, and he didn't know what to do.

And the other alien was actually captured by the military guys which just happened to be driving by in a truck, and they stop, they actually tackle this thing, bring it into the car, take it to the hospital, right? For some reason I see the Brazilian cops tried to put handcuffs on him, beating him while screaming. Stop resisting. Stop resisting.

But okay. So they get them. And the cop that actually grabbed the alien died a month later from whatever the alien had on its skin, some sort of whatever, some sort of something that it didn't react very well to his skin. and it killed him. He was dead in about 30 days. But it's a very interesting story if you haven't heard of it yet.

It's called moment of contact. What happened to the alien? They both died. Both of them died. So they, and then... How many aliens were there? Two. Two. Okay.

But you said, and the government quickly jumped on anybody who was involved with it and just, you know, like they usually do. They want to suppress everything. And then, of course, the American government came in and swooped up and took everything else that was available. So this happened back, I think it was the mid-90s, and we're just getting the information of it now. But, I mean, that's quite a story, dude.

It was quite a story. I would like to hear the rest of Las Vegas. I really would. So what do you think about this? What do you and John think about all this stuff? I was telling you this in prison. You don't believe any of it. I, I, listen, the whistleblower guy has me kind of like, well, first of all, when, when, look, because my whole thing is, why aren't there any photos? How come there's no proof? How come nobody's photos? There's so much information. It's overwhelming. I understand what I'm playing with, I'm saying now with all of the, you know, available camera systems and video and record, you know, that there should be something.

And so when it came out that those pilots from the Navy pilots came out and they started throwing all that footage out, like, hey, we got them here, we got them here, we got them here. We've been getting them. We've been told not to say anything. Like, when all that came out, I started going, holy shit, this is nuts. And then this whistleblower comes and says, look, he's got all this evidence. He's like, but let's face it, I don't want to give it up. I don't want to be Edward, you know, Snowden. I don't want to have to be living in Siberia, hiding and.

Russia or you know so he they went and they gave it he gave it he gave it to Congress and said here is what is out there so you know I'm curious to know where that goes but yeah definitely definitely I'm I'm I'm 90% there but I've also somebody who was raised in the 80s and 90s where it was it was ludicrous to to believe that aliens existed so I still have that kind of 10% of me that says, don't go all in. Gotcha. Like, I'm not necessarily Joe Rogan, who's 100% all in. He's absolutely there.

I mean, I believe, I'm not saying I don't believe in aliens. Obviously, I believe that there's life, you know, throughout the universe. I mean, mathematically, there's no way that there's not billions of planets with life on them. My problem is, why would you come here? You know what I'm saying? And if you could travel across the entire, you know, galaxy and come to earth and then crash, come on. Like, oh, like the brakes went out.

Like, come on, stop. So I'm just curious, like, why here? What are you interested in? Why would there be any interaction? You know, like those are, that's where the conspiracy theory starts to get me going, okay, look, you had me at they're here and they're observing. But then suddenly, no, no, they've taken over. They're working in conjunction with us.

they, well, what do they even need us for? They want the planet. Well, let's face it. They, if they're so technolaged, so hybridization program. A what? A hybridization program that they're doing. To hibernate? No, they're taking part of our, that's why they're abducting people is to get their, their DNA.

We don't think they would have that licked? Absolutely not. plus have you heard of the people that have been tagged no so wait first tell me why aliens are here so what what is this one why are they here specifically they've been here for thousands of years before we were here i mean they've been here way before i mean for example the anananaki supposedly came here in 450 000 years ago from planet newburu because they needed gold for their planet's atmosphere so the egyptians who were their so-called slaves to be able to dig the gold out of the ground were doing the

gold digging for about 10,000 years. And finally they said, forget it. We don't want to do this anymore. And what they did was they combined their DNA with the bipedal hominids that were here to create mankind. And this is not me. According to the clay tablets of the Samarian text, It's not me saying it. So this is before the Bible. So this is the foundation to what later became the Bible. You know what I mean? So they created man and man, according to divine encounters, which is written by Zacharias Sitch,

and the original slaves were the African people who they have found these huge holes all around. Africa where they think the digging was actually happening by machine by not just humans but by machines and and space things or whatever you know spaceships or whatever they're all over south africa in africa they're massive holes michael tellinger has found them everywhere and um but they've been here before we were here and they're still here now they're supposedly under the water in the oceans they're supposedly in antarctic Okay. Oh, you got to hear about Admiral Bird. You know about Animal Bird? Wait a second. Listen, my question. We'll talk about Admiral Bird in a minute. Listen. That's the whole show in itself. Go ahead. If these things had the ability to travel here, right? You got to be able to travel at least the speed of light. No, he needs a wormhole. Okay, to be able to, let's say, navigate a wormhole and get here and get back,

so where this wormhole is, I don't know, or create a wormhole in order to make that happen as if that's even possible, which maybe it is, I don't know. If you were able to do that, why would you need humans to be slaves? Wouldn't you have robots? I mean, let's face it, in 10 years from now, we're probably going to have robots on Mars building huts for us. so wouldn't they already have like androids and robots why would they even need us because their civilization is dying because of their

genetics I don't know why but they're doing a hybridization to create a better entity if you will you know because they're yeah a better us in a way because they're they can't reproduce

apparently from what I understand what about C-Alas I have a prescription I got a doctor to just write it just she'll write it you say I'm having issues

I'm 53 years old I need you but I got you oh 53 years oh what's funny is you know talking about Gosha again she has

the Cosmic Agency these Palladians they live to be 950 to 1,200 years old but they all look like they're like 12, 13, 14, 17 years old that's crazy you ought to see them. They're on I can give you a website if you want

Well I got to yeah I got to talk to I definitely have to talk to your friend who is at Coleman Who? I don't know, the woman you told me. Oh, Sharon, Sharon. Yeah, yeah. Oh, Richard's out. Oh, yeah, I know, I know.

Have him on the show. He's not going to, I already asked him. He's not going to do it. He wants to do it? Huh? He wants to do it. No, he doesn't. Oh, yes.

Oh, that's why you know why? Because his counselor said that he can't have contact with anybody who was, you know. Yeah, I understand, but. If you're, that's different. If you're doing it for, you can't really stop someone for talking to press. And you can't really, and if it has anything to do with business, you really can't stop them either. It was work related. I'm doing it to promote myself.

I'm doing it to, I mean, look, you see me. I'm on federal probation. So am I still. My probation officer is like, eh, you know, whatever. This is what you're doing for a living. That's fine. And I got a reduction. Did you see that?

I said it to you. That what? I got a reduction. Did you see that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. For the First Chance Act, right? Yeah, I'm getting like a year and a half off on the ankle monitor. Right.

That's for what? Didn't Trump sign that in? No, I got good credits. I got good time, good credits. No, I'm saying the First Chance Act. I think Trump signed it into law. But that's what I got out on. The CARES Act or Trump, yeah, first step act or whatever it was, one of those acts.

I have no idea I don't know The credits My God One is the COVID You got off on the COVID thing The second one is The first

You're getting the credits For the first chance act Which Trump signed in the law So whenever I talk to Pete I always tell him When he's like Yeah I just got my first credit act I'm going to be in halfway house in a month

I'm like well you better thank Trump And you know he's super liberal Like he's like He gets all upset. I'm like, I'm just saying, you got almost a year off because of Trump. You remember Trump. Yeah, all right, all right,

whatever. That law, they were putting that into place before Trump ever got. Yeah, Trump signed it. Trump, you need to write that man a letter. He gets so upset. How about

Levinson? How about Red Bull? Is he out? No, I mean, he doesn't know. he's a bad inmate bro he's gambling he's going to the shoe selling pills really yeah you kill it he's a maniac and he's he's going to get out he's going to be a probably be a multi multi-millionaire again he's a hell of a salesman oh i bet no he's one of those guys that's like you know like if he could make three million dollars a year legally but he could make three million dollars a year legally

but he could make three and a half illegally he'll go with the three and a half it's like what are you doing what are you doing well I thought it'd be all right he's a slippery character but he's fun he's he's great he's hilarious

I love him I would hang out with him all the time I wouldn't invest with him no no but still yeah I do like him can't trust him with anything don't lend him money don't you're not getting your money but you know if you keep I'm very good at compartmentalizing

people like this is the person I like to go to to have fun oh great what if he needed to borrow money no no we don't lend him money now this person's boring but you can lend this person money so um so so what about the admiral that went was what you say his name was Admiral Richard Bird Berg With a bird B-Y-R-D

Bird Oh, okay Bird He's extremely famous Um Richard He had the Medal of Honor This guy was serious

He went What year's What year Roughly 1940s Okay He uh He went to

Under Operation in high junk. He went to Antarctica and this is 1946-47 13 ships 4,000 personnel

and they were attacked by flying discs made by Germany Hitler and what happened was he took one of the

before that actually happened he took a just a regular plane just to fly over and see what's up and he he goes over these mountains and suddenly the discs

take over his airplane they take over the steering the pedals everything and a voice comes through and says we've got control of your ship don't worry we're going to take you to where we are and as they're taking him he sees a mammoth on the ground they're supposed to be extinct a mammoth

it keeps flying and they take him to the hollow earth what is considered what you know I don't know if you believe in the hollow earth but this was actually found in his diaries and um the they thought he thought you know he was introduced the whole city down there in the center of the earth and it's crazy man I'm telling you

it's called Agatha and the people of Agatha were wanting him to stop the atomic bomb weapon detonations that we were doing so they gave him some messages to take back to the leaders of our leaders

and he did but they said keep it hush don't tell anybody don't talk about it don't nothing but the way this information got out was when he died he had written a diary and he gave it to a son and his son then published it so he didn't ever intend to have it published yeah but that whole that whole nuclear weapons thing that worked out like you haven't been any problems um actually there's supposedly a rift that has gone through time and gone through the whole

that's why we had so many alien encounters because it's affected their dimension of whatever it is. The whole nuclear atomic bomb blast that we've done. We've done more than two of course. Nagasaki in Hiroshima

we've done more by practicing and you know the whole the bikini islands are destroyed and all that area. Yeah, they wiped those people. They didn't wipe them out, but they definitely gave them some sun damage. The reason I would love for you to have Billy Carson on is because he just did a documentary called the Black Knight Satellite.

Do you know about the Black Knight Satellite? No. It's a satellite that's been circling the Earth for the last 13,000 years that was put there by aliens. Nobody really knows who, but it was put there to kind of like just keep an eye on Earth. So he did a whole documentary on it. He's really good. Billy Carson. He's on YouTube.

He's got forbidden knowledge, TV, and a whole bit of stuff. The problem is the alien people. Everyone I over watch, like, they try and do it like their doctors or something. Like they sit around. They try to do it super professional. It's like, stop it. You don't have to do that. What's happening with the economy?

What are they going for with it? What is Biden doing? Is he in, he's in coots with the aliens? What's happening? well supposedly the the actual hierarchy goes from because i mean the got to think about it the president's only temporary employee he doesn't really control anything it's a deep state that really controls everything and they're still controlled by europe you know there are three three uh city states there's the vatican there's the city of london and there's washington dc and washington dc is not part of the united states as a

separate entity in the end of itself. It's 10 square miles of Washington. It's not the United States of America. It's the United States. Yeah, but it's the United States and the United States of America are two separate corporations. Okay. So anyway, it's controlled by the city of London and the Vatican. Now, Karen Hewis, who was a

whistleblower lawyer from the IMF, stated that everyone who pays taxes, the taxes go, because the IRS is a collection on for the Fed, right? The taxes go from the IRS to the Fed and it goes to England, where England takes a 40% cut and the Vatican takes it 60% cut. So she's saying that, not me. Karen Hughes, you can look her up on YouTube, H-U-D-A-S, Karen. and the ones above the Vatican, supposedly, are the reptilians. And above the reptilians is the Galactic Federation,

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Well, the economy's not doing well because Trump's not in power. I mean, Biden's trying to do everything to screw this up, you know, And the bricks are going to take over, which is, you know, it's China, Russia, Brazil, the other countries, they want to get rid of the United States currency as the predominant currency. They want to do a global currency reset. And once that happens, we become a third world nation like ASAP because the dollar is not backed by any. thing, as you know, it's backed by our labor, basically. There's no gold that backs the U.S. dollar. You're wearing that, right?

Yeah, yeah. Nixon took us off the gold standard. In 1971. We are the gold lars. So listen, what are we talking about with, what happened? Listen, I got to get, we got to get to this, the moon landing. We landed in what, 1969? Mm-hmm. supposedly yes

but according to the astronauts there were entities there waiting for them they were all on a rift and everything there was a whole bunch of UFOs and everything

they were there it kind of terrified them in a way supposedly so I mean if you notice their actual conference when they came back they were not happy. Did you ever see the conference they gave? No.

They were not men who were, you know, elated by the fact they were the first ones on the moon. They were quite subdued and kind of, they kind of look sad and depressed. And even Stephen Greer later wanted to get some sort of comment from Armstrong about what happened up there. And he said, I can't talk about anything because they will come after me,

my kids, my wife, everything. They'll make us disappear, and I can't have that. That's why Armstrong never gave any interviews or anything. Buzz Aldrin, on the other hand, he had, you know, he didn't really care. I mean, he was, he wanted to get the information out. And they have found all kinds of, man, they've found all kinds of stuff on the far side of the moon. Supposedly, the moon was actually put into place, like towed into place. and put there.

That's why it doesn't rotate. If you know, the moon does not rotate. We see the same face of the moon. It's, what do they call that? Locked? Yeah. And it's hollow. And it's hollow.

NASA actually hit it with something, and it rang like a bell. So the damn thing is hollow. That's true. It is. I'll send you the stuff. Listen. what about okay so do you remember telling me about reading like a bell for three hours do you remember telling me about the um uh the soviet union had gone to the moon and they got

there and they weren't they were they found an area or something they warned the americans not to go into that area it's probably on the far side of the moon because the far side has buildings and things like that that are there and they were probably warned not to come back either I mean there there was a guy named Michael Price

who was a remote viewer and they asked it or Angoswan I'm sorry Ingo Swan did a remote viewing you know what remote viewing is right? Yeah and he did it on the moon and when he got there

he saw what was going on and the alien whatever the aliens, whatever they were there, recognized him, recognized that he was there. And the CIA, he was working for at the time, said, come back, hurry up, come back, come back, don't worry about it, come back. And he came back.

But they were entities up there. And also, the Secret Space Program is a trip, man. You ought to study Corey Good. And her name is Eisenhower. The granddaughter of Dwight Eisenhower was part of the Secret Space Program. They were on Mars already.

They've been on the moon already before the landing that we know of. I just heard about this two days ago. And I've never heard about it before. This is the news conspiracy that I've just heard about. Ready for this? Okay. And I have a video on it. I could show it to you.

Well, it must be through. It's on the Internet. The Challenger, when it exploded, was empty. They did it as a trauma-based thing, a Psiops, to get trauma to all Americans. The astronauts were not there. They were actors. They were not there. They are still alive today.

They were called crisis actors. What? What are they in the witness protection program? Similar to it, yeah. Similar to it. And they've discovered all. of them. Some are public. Some are teaching it like Yale and stuff. The Rudd was in a Resnick. She was one of the there and what's the other one in Culliffe? Christy McCullough changed her first name.

It's now something else McCullough. But she, she's also a teacher somewhere. But they're still alive. It's crazy. I never heard of that one until now. That's that does sound crazy. That does sound crazy. It is. It sounds nuts. But man, I got some other stuff I would love to show you, but I, you know, I can't get it to you. I can't get it from, where is it at? It's on telegram, I think. You don't need it on telegram, aren't you? I mean, I think I have the app, but I never use it. Like, I'm not speaking, you know, I'm not a, I'm not a, not the CIA or anything. I don't need telegram. But, um, I, so I have a question. Did you ever hear that the Nazis had gone to the moon?

Yeah. Mm-hmm. You think that's true? They had like a secret base. They had a secret base or something that Bonn... What's the name? Von Braun. Yeah.

Bernard von Braun. Warner von Braun. He was headed... Yeah, the whole rocket space program in NASA. And what is that one? What is the one? what's the theory there and do you believe it um the theory is that they had an actual roswell situation way back before we did way back in the early thirties and the aliens were giving them instructions

that had to build certain items and how to build and do all kinds of stuff and when you listen to it and you actually digest the information yeah you you kind of think it yeah it could happen yeah for sure do you believe it or no i don't know no i don't i don't believe it but i'm i'm i'm very much a a standard i believe what's in the textbooks it got very much the point where they um they were using basically they were taught how to use submarines in space like you could take a submarine just like you do in the ocean convert it to the fact that you can put it in space Right. And you could go for, you know, months and months, you know.

And they had a, they built a base on the moon. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I know sounds crazy. Where'd you hear that from? It wasn't for me. Oh, I've heard that. I mean, plus, you know, there was that, um, there was a movie that's based on that.

Yeah, it's called, uh, Iron Sky. Okay. Yeah. Documentary? You would think it's a documentary, but it's, um, it's, actually a fiction movie. It's great. I got to watch it. You have to look up also Operation Bluebeam.

Bluebeam. What's that? Operation Bluebeam is now they got enough meridian in the sky that they can project things in the sky and they make it look so real that we are, let's say, being invaded by aliens, but we're not. It's actually projection, but it looks so real that people won't know the difference. It's operation. And what is this palladium? What is it that's in the sky?

It's from when they do, what you're going to call it? The stuff they put in the sky, the airplanes put in the sky. Oh, the chem trails? Yeah, the chem trails. All right, so listen, you're not a great storyteller. So this is the, so you believe that the government is pumping what chemical? Barium.

Barium into the atmosphere through planes so that they can project? Well, it's included with the other chemicals they're involved. I mean, the other chemicals are there to, you know, clod out the sky in the sun and make us sick and a whole bunch of other stuff. But they include barium in that. And with that, they can project things into the sky that people... You look at it up on your Google. Look it up on your Google.

Look up Operation Blue Boobin. Yeah, I understand, but if I wanted to do that, I wouldn't need to talk to you. So what are they, what are they, what is the, what are their plans to project what? Well, according to Werner von Braun, he said the first thing was going to be wars. Okay, we have had the wars. We were going to have the last, one of the last thing was the war against terror, right? Then they were going to be meteorites. And the last card was that they were.

were going to use was the alien invasion card. And that was just to continue the fear, you know, the people would have and just keep them in fear. And they would have to need more money, of course, from Congress, because they're not having an alien invasion. And they need more money for more, you know, how the military industrial complex works. And you'll always need money for more weapons and more this and more that. so that's the purpose for it

keep people in fear get more money from Congress and who said this Warner von Braun Warner von Brom on his death so he said that the long term plan is to continually have

different types of wars and eventually the last one they would do would be a war against ailing which could go on forever which is in fact untrue because the aliens have been here. Yeah, it's untrue, totally untrue. But most people don't believe in this stuff, you know?

They think it's hokey or bullshit or whatever, so they haven't educated themselves enough to know that the aliens have been here for thousands of years. They're not antagonistic. They've got technology that's a million years ahead of us. So, I mean, they've wanted to take us over. They could easily, just with their mind power alone. Their mind power is incredible. so there are you go out big guy

well you should really I would love for you to get Billy Carson on there Stephen Greer you'd love it it'd be a whole world I can barely run this little channel

I can't do a whole I tried to do another one it's a pain in the ass getting people to do actually with Stream Yard I'd probably just just do this and just mash out videos of just, you know, insane topics. Because some of these topics are just outrageous. Like, you know, they're so conflicting.

Well, David Pilates, David Pilitis is a former policeman, and he's trying to find all these missing people. He's got like 2,000 cases of, you know, just the national parks. You could have him. That's true crime in itself in a way. I know, I mean, he may be a former policeman. It doesn't necessarily make them credible. How many former policemen did you meet in Coleman?

Well, he is credible. What happened to Justin? Remember Justin, the guy that stuck the broom handle and the guys, remember that guy? Justin, he was in prison, got 30 years for violating the guy with the broom handle. He wasn't incredible. Nice guy. I liked Justin.

They just let him out recently. I mean, nice guy, but then he didn't do anything to me. So, you know, I can say... So how do you correlate that to Mr. Politis? I'm saying that you're saying he's a former policeman and that makes him credible. I'm saying... Well, read his books. He's got his books out. He's got books out.

He's got a documentary out. Why don't you have a book out? I don't care for it. For what? What am I going to write about? What am I... You got all kinds of stuff you could write about. You could try and formulate...

I've written screenplays. I've written like 13 screenplays. You got to do a YouTube. got to get you on your feet, bro. Yeah, well, that's not going to happen for another year because I got to get this thing off my ankle. I'm, yeah, but we got, yeah, you can't go back to your old line of work. Filing taxes and do whatever you were legal, the legal things that you did that got you

into jail. Like, you keep illegal, but they blocked up. All I did was telemarketing for them. That was my part. That was my role. And that's in my N. I know ID thing. That was my role.

The jury didn't believe. believe it. Oh, jury's to me manipulated. Are you kidding? But I got amazing Brady violations now against the whole court system and everything. I mean, it'll, yeah, it's bad for them.

What other stories do we have here? We've gone over, any other, so you have, so what is the ultimate goal for the aliens to work with the earthlings? Like, what is their ultimate goal? Right now, it's hybridization.

There are aliens among us now that we don't even know that they're among us. They can shape-shift to the point they look exactly like us, and you never know. Sometimes you can tell because their eyes shift. You know, they're shifting eyes. We have like round pupils, but they have the slit like a snake, you know? So sometimes that happens, then they can't control it. But they were there. They are there.

Oh, my God. So what, I was just thinking, I'm going to get B-roll of like a snake eye and throw it on there. Throw it on their thing. So what's their ultimate goal? You're saying just to breed themselves into the human population right now. Yeah. And slowly take it over to the hybridization process. And they're willing to, they've been slowly.

manipulating this thing for the last how many years oh years many many years more than more than our decade our century that's for sure but also they're doing they're tagging us did you know that there's a guy named dr lear who recently just died but he was um he could um their their patients that he had that came in and he would do an x-ray on them and he could find where the person had a tag and the person ever had any operation before and they know that they had been abducted you know like years later years earlier and uh he had he would do surgery to get this little you know alien tag out of their hand or out of their leg or whatever it was you know they do that too it's it's uh to find out they're little tiny i've seen this they they look like um it's a meteorite it look like

little tiny like a fuse but it's tiny right yeah and kind of that kind of that kind of that shape it's got a longated kind of little shape I've seen that I saw one where they got it and when they tried to open it up it just it kind of like self-destructed it just like burned up like a little fuzzy little and then it was just kind of ash right I mean that that's I mean

I'm not saying I've seen this I've seen this like on a video or somebody explained it to me I didn't see it I wasn't there he has uh it's on YouTube he's got some stuff on YouTube some people put out on them. You could see him do operations where he takes it out of people's legs and hands and arms and things like that. His name is Dr. Lear.

So how's married life? It's good. It's the same. Nothing's changed. Like, I don't, you know, the biggest issue for me with married life is that I now have to say wife instead of girlfriend,

and I'm usually saying girlfriend, and which I don't think is that big of a deal. But whenever my wife is in the room and I say yeah my girlfriend she gives me this look and I'm what what and she's like I'm your wife like oh it was you know it's the same thing no it's not totally different like oh hey so yeah the title and inheritance is different it it well there's nothing to inherit so well she's got that phone wall behind you and she hasn't taken she hasn't taken my last name so oh no no no cards have changed. Nothing's changed. There's no driver's license. There's no

shame. But I think we're still feeling it out. Like maybe this might not take. What are you doing now? I'm working. Telemarketing room again. It's the only place they'll hire you with an ankle monitor. It's crazy. Everyone in there has a suspect, you know, alter life that they've had in the past. So they don't care. Did you tell them that like it's your like, isn't that why you went to jail last time for telemarketing? Yeah, they don't care. I don't care. Your probation officer doesn't care?

No, it's crazy. What are you selling? Right now, it's MACs, which is merchant cash advanced debt settlements. Merchant cash advance debt settlements. If you have, you're a business owner and you've taken a cash advance based on your receivables, these are like loan sharks, and they loan you like 40 to 50, 60, 60. 50% on those receivables that, you know, the money that they've loaned you. And you have to pay that back daily or weekly.

So we help them to settle that for 50% because it costs too much money for the business owners. It's usually choking them. Right. So you guys go in and they say, hey, I owe $10,000 and you go in and you try and negotiate it down to $5,000. Well, yeah, that's basically it, but it's more money than that. And that is usually 30,000 above. You are, okay. Yeah, just an example.

And we go in with a bunch, let's say they got 30 cases. The attorney will go in with 30 cases and, you know, to the same lender and say, look, these are all going to go bad. So you're going to have to take a 50% cut on these because they're either going to lose. Either way, you're going to lose everything if you don't. That's what I'm doing now. Any other, any other alien stories? No? Yeah, well, I'm sure there are a lot.

I can't remember them all. There's so many. There's so many. Well, I'd love to come up and do the show right there at your... In my living room? Yeah. Yeah, it looks very professional on... You've seen it on TV.

And I got rid of... I had a bunch of Maryland Monroe, like some of my paintings on the wall. I got rid of that. Now it's just a red wall. So it's a lot more cleaner. Although, I don't think anybody even notices that stuff. I notice it. Wait you get rid of the pictures, though?

I like those. I did like them. But first of all, like I wasn't really... they weren't really selling like it wasn't selling a bunch of them and so you know it would be easier for me to just plug in an ad about paintings than it would be for me to keep them on the wall like you know there's this whole story behind her that she didn't commit suicide she was murdered right because of a job didn't she having what was it what was the story all right the story i never saw it but i don't want to tell you the story because then you'll go uh-huh uh-huh and then i'm telling the story instead of

he's telling her story. So what is the story? I know it is. I know what it is, but go ahead. Okay. She was good. She was, um, because, uh, Robert Kennedy and John Kennedy weren't really answering her phone calls, uh, John Kennedy had told her the Roswell was for real.

Wait, stop. You got to start at the beginning. She was one. She was having an affair with JFK. So start with that. Well, you're bad at it. Well, I'm not used to being on podcasts. Yeah, she was having an affair with JFK

And also an affair with Robert And they were kind of like, I don't know They weren't answering her calls as fast as I guess Most women would like someone answer their calls So she was getting kind of angry And what happened was During one of the pillow talk times, I guess they were together Roswell came up

And he had told her that it was a real deal. and he had seen the alien bodies or whatever, the craft. And she was going to have a press conference. And the CIA got one of the fact that she was going to have a press conference. And the guy who was running the CIA at the time, his name was Angler. And Angler got Sam G. and Kana to actually go in and actually murder her with, the it was some suppository or something something like that so she never committed to the side right who was uh who was that he was a mobster or just sam jen kana yeah huge mobster yeah okay

you should know that name well i was gonna say i don't do a lot with a with momsters but that did sound i was thinking that i think he was a momster he was involved with like kennedy's father or kennedy supposedly Well, Kennedy, Robert Kennedy was, they actually, John Kennedy was helped by the mob huge with the teamsters to vote for the Kennedys to get into office. Right. And then he kind of double-crossed them, right? Exactly. And Robert came at them really hard, you know, and he was sick of it.

So he double-crosses the mobsters, which is a big no-no. he's going he's asking from magic you know majestic 12 they're they're the ones that were controlling the whole UFO stuff

and everything he wanted all the information 12 days before he got assassinated he wanted all the information on his death about MJ12 Roswell you know everything they had on it and that wasn't going to happen

in the 60s and that was another reason he got assassinated. Another reason was that he was going to break up the CIA and create the DIA. And then another reason was that he had created, he was going to get rid of Federal Reserve notes and he had already created, uh, created, uh, uh, United States notes. And they weren't going to have that either. The Federal Reserve was basically controlled by the Vatican and then we're going to have that. So there were multiple reasons why he got assassinated.

And so that was it. Oh, you want to hear something else? Yeah. This is an exclusive for the Matt Cox podcast. Okay. All right. You're going to have to Google it. Right now?

Well, no. You can do it later. I'll get a little to this. All right. You know the dollar bill on the back of the olive bill, the pyramid, right? Correct? And then the capstone, the top of it is cut off. Correct? Yeah. Yeah, it's the eye, right?

Correct. Now, if you do an aerial photograph, Google it, of Dealey Plaza, you will see that it's a pyramid and the top is cut off by the railroad tracks cutting across it. And there's no way

Oswald could have orchestrated that. Look it up. It's a pyramid. When they take that left turn, it goes down an angle, and it goes like a pyramid. Go to Google, put an aerial photograph of Dealey Plaza, and you'll see it looks like a pyramid with the top cut off. Because the railroad tracks

go along the top, and it cuts off Right there. There you go, Matt Cox. You have an exclusive. What if that mean, though? I don't understand what that means. Free masonry. So the freemasons?

Yeah, they're all freemasons. Okay, so you understand that Daly Plaza was built probably 10 or 20 years before the assassination. That's not the point. The point is. masons okay built it probably most likely correct

free masons are in the government high up like George Bush I don't see how that so they built this place 20 years ago saying if we ever need to assassinate a president here's where we'll do it

I don't know but it's it's built just like a pyramid if you look at it. Well, I'm sure lots of things are built in the shape of a pyramid. Well, you know, in Washington, D.C., the whole part of Washington, there's a whole part that's built like an owl. And their owl that they have at the Bohemian Grove is an owl, that the 45-foot thing that call Mollock,

where they do the cremation of care. I don't know any of this. Yeah, I know. You've got to learn all this stuff, dude. You got time to learn. I feel like, and I don't want to be disrespectful, but I don't need to know this stuff. Because I don't feel like this is going to help me in any way other than... It adds for a good show.

Entertainment value. And I don't... Yeah. And there's a little owl emblem on the $1 bill on the front on the one where the one is, it's on the corner. Yeah, I'd have to show it to you. You can't see it right now. I have a question. Why are we going to Mars?

Why is Elon Musk want to go to Mars so bad? And why does the government want to go to Mars so bad? Well, they feel they want to get, you know, off the planet because they're too crowded. And then they just, I don't know, they just want to get off. I have no idea. That's what they keep saying, that this world is going to be coming to an end soon, you know, because of pole shifts or whatever it might be. Who's that? What, the pole shifts?

No, I'm saying Elon Musk just said he wants us to be an interplanetary species. Yeah, that's what you think is wrong. But I've heard of other people say that, you know, the reason that they want to get off is because there's going to be a pole shift. And when that occurs, there's going to be massive destruction on the planet catastrophic that it's going to be very hard. Just now, I don't know if you've heard, Yellowstone is, is they think that thing might blow up soon too. Yellowstone National Park, you know, the bubbling, you know, how the bubbling

something up and on, yeah, if that thing blows, we'll be under an atmospheric darkness for many, many, many years to come. It's going to be a mess. There'll be no sunlight. I mean, we'll have a frigid winter

for sure, because it's going to be, it's going to be a mess. But if you add a, if you add a pole shift, And we, you're supposed to have a pole shift every, I think, it's 330,000 years. We're at 660,000 years. We're that much behind. We should have it any minute, but, you know, once that happens, it's going to be a mess.

What is the pole shift? I didn't even know what that means. It means when there's a pole, you're right, you have the North Pole, the South Pole. And if they shift, if they shift, you have, let's say, Antarctica now becomes tropic. You know, Florida becomes, you know, freezing cold. and everything shifts and what happens is we are traveling in a thousand miles per hour roughly

so if that stops the wind and water continues to go it doesn't stop so we're going to have a thousand mile winds and water that's going to take over everything it's crazy I mean it's going to be a mess and they feel it'll happen soon look up Wi-Files did a great show on it

who's they What I mean they? You keep saying they think it's going to happen soon. Who's they? Scientists who study this stuff. You laughed, but you laughed about UFOs in prison. I did laugh about UFOs. Nobody's more upset about that than me.

Everything, I know, everything I tell you sounds nuts and crazy, but it's all truth. I mean, I'm not making it up. I can't. There's no way. So, do you believe in global warming? No, I believe in stuff that's worse than global warming, like a pull shift. And if there's pole shift, there's crustal displacement. So let's say, for example, an orange.

Think of an orange, right? You have an orange, and you have the crust of the orange. So let's say the orange, the top and bottom, it sits straight, but the crust is turning. I mean, plate tectonics. I know what plate tectonics are. And that would be a disaster. That would be a disaster. Is it just going to explain plate tectonics to me?

Like, I don't know. Well, I don't know if you know. I don't know if you know. There's some just fundamental knowledge that people have. I mean, just because I don't know about the aliens, does it mean I don't understand basic scientific principles? Well, you don't know about the Bohemian Grove, you said, right? In the Mollock and in the owl? and they didn't teach that in science class

so you think so when the pole shift if they shift you're saying if they do this we would still be spinning spinning and we would also still be near the equator so I don't think they'd be that much of a big deal let's it happen really quick it happens very quick you'd have to hold on to something

because the mammoth that's lover The mammoths that they found in Antarctica still were chewing their food when it happened. They hadn't even swallowed yet. That happened that fast. Go ahead, laugh. I don't, I, you have to do a YouTube channel. You really do. You could just, you could just reach in and just, you could just do a different episode.

You could do a 15-minute episode twice a week and, you know, You'd be able to quit your job in a year. Oh, yeah? I'm telling you, it'd blow up. It'd be huge. You let me edit the videos. We'll put little, we'll put, listen, when I do, when I do these videos, I'm going to throw some aliens and stuff in there. I'm going to have some spaceships and you're going to say when the, well, listen, when the, when you, you're going to say, well, when they, when the reptilians come down and I'm going to have a little spaceship, go.

Blah, blah, blah.