Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Warden Attacks Innocent Victim On Camera | Victim Speaks Out

Episode Date: November 6, 2023

Warden Attacks Innocent Victim On Camera | Victim Speaks Out

Is this a private prison? Is it private? No, you're going to, it's public. Welcome here. I'm trying to leave. Can I leave? Whoa, no, no, whoa. You're not cuffing me.

Yes, I am. No, you're not. And that's why I tried to record, but by that time, it was too late. I couldn't record in that time. He goes by then, boom, he just, you right in the face. And I knocked his ass out. And the other one didn't get out the car. That's exactly what I did.

I couldn't believe that I just got literally knocked out by a prison warden. It weren't for the video that just came out. he's getting away with it he may still get away with it i just can't believe what happened i'm still in shock about it hey this is matt cox and i am here with christian sand he's involved in an incident and i think it's palaska county in arkansas there was an issue with the warden i saw the video the other day it was just insanity and we'll probably i'm sure we will show the video and we're going to go over and kind of talk about what happened.

And it's, anyway, you have to watch the video, to be honest with you. And so check out the interview real quick. Because, I mean, I did, you know, obviously I watched the video. And it was like I was still in shock. I can't believe it happened, first of all. I didn't think he would do that. Right. I was just so in shock.

You saw in the video, I couldn't believe that I just got close to being knocked out. by a prison warden that holds a higher standard in almost everybody it's insane right i don't think i watch the full version i watched the version where it kind of just shows you're you're driving through the area and it seemed like you just pulled into the prison or to the jail it's a jail right it's a state prison i think so you just pulled into the visitor section to what just like check it out or and or turn around well the thing is i drive past it every single day like it's one of those things that you drive by oh what is that what is that what is that right sure a lot of people have those so it's like it's a long road the road's probably like a mile

long at least to go down there so i was driving down there i was like oh taylor my friend's name's taylor look at this the prison to prison so we drove into the parking lot to turn around the visitor parking lot and then i was there probably about 30 seconds to a minute on my GPS looking and then i got a warden one of the warden i don't think he was the warden uh someone came up to my I said, hey, what are you doing here? I said, I'm just here looking at the prison. I said, I don't need to tell you what I'm doing here. I said, this is public.

I'm going to leave now. And that's when someone blocked me into the prison because they didn't want me to leave for some reason, even though I wanted to leave. Right. They pulled a car up and blocked the exit from the visitation parking lot. I mean, that's what I saw in the video. Yeah. And I kept telling them, can I leave? Can I please leave?

And that's when the guy was like, oh, you're not, oh, we're searching your car. I'm like, you're not searching nothing of mine. You ain't searching nothing. And I said, can I go? I started, that's after I started recording. I started recording. I said, can I just leave? He's like, no, you're welcome here.

He said twice and what? You're welcome here. And then I said, can I leave? He's like, I don't know how you're going to leave. And that's when I started getting out and recording everything. I started reporting the parking lot showing that there's no signs anywhere saying that it's restricted, showing the person blocking me in, saying that I couldn't physically leave. What were they saying they were concerned with or that they wanted to search your car for?

Well, they didn't say anything to me. They didn't say nothing. They didn't say what they're concerned about. They said, oh, we're allowed to search your car. We can search your car and we're going to search your car. I'm like, you're not searching nothing in mind. But they're really not allowed to search your car, right? Like, they are if you give them permission.

They didn't get nothing from me. but no permission right but i was going to say but so the from what i saw of the video like technically they're allowed to request to search your car but if you refused then they basically have to escort you off the property yes because they're not police i didn't know that until the other day i mean i'll talk about later but i literally got a call from my lawyer on friday telling me what they can't and can't do and as it turns out they couldn't even do nothing so i just wanted to leave at that point and they couldn't search my car and want to search me if they if i knew they would give me ultimate

pay you either stay here and we search you or you leave when we don't search you i would choose leave then the warden comes right the warden was in the car the whole time he was the car that was blocking you the whole time in the in the thing he was that black car right at the uh and a driving for the visitors in the parking lot blocking me well how long did this go on on before he got out of the out of his vehicle and came over 30 seconds a minute and then he came over and started talking to you said he wanted to search the car all this stuff yep right I didn't start recording until like a minute after I started talking to him because a minute before that I wasn't thinking really I was thinking oh what could happen he was just saying oh you're restricted

I'm like no I'm not can I just leave can I just leave and that's when I started said oh I should be recording this because he can say anything at them right do you ever watch those the uh like first amendment auditors or anything like that i wasn't a big fan until this happened actually yeah now i now i'm addicted to them yeah because i mean like they have to suspect you well first all they're not police officers so the the the people the guards at the at the um at the prison they can't really do anything other than ask you to leave the premises but they weren't allowing you to leave the premises um but i mean even the police they have to suspect you of a crime before they can ask the search a vehicle they have to be

able to tell you what the crime is and and i can understand that like if they thought okay well this guy's making like uh you know guys will drop off so in a prison a lot of times what will happen is somebody will come and they'll drop off something and then when the when the prisoners go to mow the yard or something they'll know where it is but first of all they would never nobody would drop anything off at a visitation area does it make sense like like it's too acceptable they were they have to go through the woods drop it off at the tree line like it's it's it's just not accessible so to me it doesn't make sense but they called the cops what happened when the cops got there well nothing's been reported i said can someone record this none of the more body cams

first of all state didn't have body cam what happened when the uh state trooper got there is i thought he would let me go, to be honest, because I thought he would have enough common sense to realize that, oh, he didn't really do anything. And I thought they would tell him, oh, we blocked him in, and he wanted to leave. That didn't happen. So when a state got there, he just arrested us. And he told me inside of the cruiser that it wasn't my call to arrest you. It was someone else because I looked at the ticket. I got a citation for it and didn't have his name on it. So someone else made the arrest for it inside the prison. I don't know who it was. I never met him, never talked to him or anything. So all the state did does was was transport us over to the jail

me and my friend. And we were in the jail for no longer than 20 minutes. We, we were there. We got our fingerprints taken. Then he literally walked us right on out. And I have a question. What was what were you arrested for? What was the actual? Just trespassing. Just trespassing. Just trespassing. But trespassing, they asked you to leave and you wanted to leave. they never asked me to leave okay so they said you are allowed to stay and then blocked you in they never once said you have to leave they said that guy actually said you are allowed to be here I'm like okay then can I leave and then they never let me leave they blocked me in right okay so they walked you they walked you out and what happened uh the shit I asked the state trooper

State trooper transported me. He was like, he was chill, but for circumstances, I was pissed off. So I wouldn't really, like, respect him that much because it was kind of aggravating. He said to me, he told me that it wasn't my call to do this. I'm just transporting you. I have nothing to do with it. And he said that basically, oh, they wanted you arrested. They wanted you to get off of here.

And I told them personally that all that's going to happen is what has happened that I'll take him in to get print and release. That's what it's called in Arkansas print release. I got printed and released. And he told that to the arresting officer at the prison, and they didn't care. They still wanted to be gone. What happened? Did you go out and get it?

Did you contact an attorney immediately? Right away. Okay. What did he say? He said it's bullshit. I contact the attorney probably an hour after. And he's been helping me with this other stuff too. He said, yeah, it's complete.

I'm going to be there to represent you and everything about it. me and my friend are doing it together because they put us together on the same ticket it's in october it's coming up actually but he said just you need to sue them this is before the incident at the mixing restaurant happened he says he's also civil attorney and he said yeah this is what happened to you if you told me everything is truthful he's like yeah i'll help you uh put in a civil litigation after this whole thing is over and everything well it's good is you have the the thing at the prison you have it on on video part of it just when i i just have the part that you saw and i sent you that's the only part on video and the part on their security cameras but i don't know

how much that got but nothing else has been recorded i said can someone please record this like to the people like there's like a least minimum 25 people there just standing around doing nothing's trying to figure out what i was doing there they said six different agencies and none of them had body cams or anything not even state had body cam or what happened and that's the only part they got recorded was my cell phone and security cameras all right so what happened then like you spoke with your attorney you figured okay we've got a court date he's saying he can get this quashed and then you get hungry one night is that the next thing that happened this happened like two months later yeah i got hungry

I'm a very usual to this place. I go here three times a week. And I called the phone. I say, hey, this is Chris. You know what I want. And then hang up. They have it ready like that. So I called it in.

I went over there. And I said, hey, my friend, we're driving up there. It's around a 7, 10 minute drive. And then I drive over there. And then I'm like, hey, is that the warden? He'll see us inside picking up his food. I said, is that the warden to my friend Taylor? He's like, no, I don't think it is.

So then he started walking outside. I was like, he asked the warden, put down my window. And I said, hey, fuck you, fuck you, fat ass. Because he's a big dude. He's on the video. He's like 400 pounds. And then after that, he came up to my door handle, ripped my card handle off. And then he went for a punch.

But my window was like right here. Right. Punch me through glass. once he wouldn't hurt himself. So he went for a punch. It was like an air punch. And then he walked off, smashed my mirror, ripped my car handle off. And after that, I drove out.

I wanted to, you know, let the situation calm down because I did have food inside. So I was driving around my friend for probably about, I'd say, three to five minutes. And then I came back, walked inside to get my food. I didn't even know he was still there because I didn't see him inside anymore. and then I saw him like a silhouette I was pacing to the door I saw like a little silhouette well he wasn't there anymore he was across he was in the parking lot across the street right or farther down in the parking lot I didn't know exactly where he was in the parking lot so I saw the security video but he was like kind of far away from the door yeah you can see him like

come across the parking lot like you pull in you go inside he comes it's like he waited for you to get inside it seemed like yeah he was he was waiting he was waiting for you to come back almost it seemed like he was i mean he he probably knew that i would need to get my food and i wasn't going to go there for no reason so i wonder if he asked the people inside if you picked up your food or not might look into that he didn't see me go inside the restaurant i was just in my car this is the first encounter first time i saw him was just inside my car the whole time And he knew I had to do something there. He knew he hit there all of a thing.

Yeah, I saw where you were. You pulled up. I mean, you were as close to the door as you could get. You know, so he had to know you were coming there to the restaurant. Yeah. And then five minutes later, I came back, thought he wasn't there. I didn't see anyone there. I didn't see him inside.

Put inside. Try to get my food. I pate, I pace a lot. And so I was paced to the door. I said, oh, he's still here. And that's why I tried to record. But by that time, it was too late. I couldn't record that time.

Because by then, boom, he just punched me right in the face the second he walked through the door. Yeah, on the video, you can see him race across the parking lot, throw open the door and just come right at you and bam. Just, you know, you kind of turn, you're trying to pull out your cell phone or you're just kind of turn and that's it. Yeah. Yeah, so often look, the way that the windows are, you can see imperfectly fine during the nighttime, but you can barely see out. And the way I saw him out, I saw a silhouette. I didn't know it was him, but narrowing it down to someone that looked like they were 300 pounds, 400 pounds, a silhouette of someone, I made the guess that it was him. And that's when I decided to try and pull up my phone to start recording.

But he saw everything that was happening inside before he even got to the door. Right. So the video, so what happens? He smashes you. You hit the ground. The employees kind of pull them off of you or? Well, there's only one employee there. And she's probably like 1.30 female.

What can she really do? She was just trying to tell him to get off of him. Get off of me. Get off of me. But he was still attacking me on the ground. He was trying to take my phone. He was like pulling my arm and stuff. He's like, what did you say?

You never threatened me again. You don't threaten me. And I don't know what he was talking about at first. Well, all you said was go fuck yourself or something. Yeah. I said it probably like around two times, the initial time. hardly a threat yeah disrespectful maybe but not a not a oh yeah very disrespectful i always say something back if someone said that to me but to the point of assaulted them i wanted that no and

i certainly wouldn't wait five minutes like at the very least at within that five minutes he could have he had plenty of time to talk himself down and realize it's not worth you know getting into a physical altercation not that he was concerned about you like he's he's thinking you know I can go smash this guy, probably because he smashes inmates all the time, and they don't do anything. So you become desensitized when you're in that environment. So what happens then? So they call the cops? Like, did you try and get into your car?

Did you try and leave? Or did you want the cops to come? I wanted them to come. I was shaking up. I didn't want to be assaulted and have this guy get away with him. I thought he was going to be arrested, frankly, because everything's on camera. I said, I said to the patrons in there. I don't think it's public, but I think they have it because I don't have it.

I was pacing around the whole restaurant for probably like around five minutes until the police came. And I was like, someone please call the cops. Someone please call the cops. I need EMS. I need EMS because I was very dizzy at that point. Like I was just so scared to do anything. Like my world was spinning around. And he took your phone.

Mm-hmm. I don't know what. He probably thought he had authority over me at that point. and he just took it. Well, I wonder if he was going to try and erase the footage or, like, I wonder why take the phone. Like, what is the purpose of taking the phone? Unless he's trying to erase the, um, the recording. But what recording did you even have at that time?

I had nothing. You had the record, well, you did have the recording of the interaction in the parking lot, which he probably realized that he didn't want. Maybe. didn't want it made public or be able to be seen if he was if he was being sued he doesn't want people a jury to see that he blocked your exit and then had you arrested like it's you know what I'm saying it's yeah that information is still a public record or like the security cameras will see that and everything but that happened two months ago I don't know if he was thinking about that he might have been thinking that I was recording him on the initial impact of when I first said you to him. That's what I was thinking. I don't know why he took it.

Maybe he tried to use his authority over me and try to exert something that he never had. But he took it. So the cops show up. And what happened? Well, first of all, the one officer there, he was, I saw in the body cam. He was like trying to ease Earl.

His name's Earl the Angel, the person that assaulted me. He was trying to ease him. but when they first showed up It was crazy There was like it was a code three over there And there was like at least seven officers there The first officer to talk to me Asked my D and he's like oh what happened

I said I'm really shaking up right now I need to talk to EMS I don't know how clear I can be with this So I try to give him a little rundown I said I said I fuck you to him I said all this and this and this I said fuck you fuck you fast to him Went to go away for five minutes

Came back after five minutes walked aside to get my food he walked in right behind me and punched me in the face that's the brief rundown i gave him but i was still really dizzy at that point right it got better overall but then my friend came and he explained things better than i could have of what happened inside the car and what i said to him and then they then they turn around and well that was the which officer was that anyway was that the one of them was like a trainee right uh the main one who talked to me was Officer Bass. He was the one that I got the body camera. I tried to foil all the rest of them didn't give him to me. So the one, the main one, I think he was a responding officer. He's

the first one who talked to me. He's really the only one who did talk to me, except all their officers coming around for like 30 seconds asking me what happened. Yeah, but is he the one that checked the, is he the one that is basically friends with the warden? No, I don't, the one that's a friend of the warden is the black officer that was there. I brought his name, but I'm pretty sure he was friends of him. He never really talked to me. I never really had an interaction with them Because did you see the video where they go and they watch the they watch the warden race across you haven't seen the video?

I have seen it. Okay, because I mean races across the parking lot, you know, thrust open the door and slams you, you know, punches you several times. And then when they're looking at it, the one officer, he's basically Spanish or Mexican or something. He's saying like, he's like, okay, well, this is an assault. And the black officer, which is the front. friend of the wardens is saying, is saying, well, I don't know.

Like, what do you mean you don't know? Well, I don't know. I can kind of see what happened, but I don't really know what happened. I mean, it's pretty obvious what happened. You're not, you're not a threat to him. Your back is to the door. Like, you're just in there.

You've waited five minutes, and he runs up and assaults you. Whatever happened prior to that is irrelevant. So I, so I wish, I remember watching that going, And look, I saw the whole thing. Like I saw the whole video and I can't see a way that it was acceptable that he assaulted you. I don't know what he was thinking.

I mean, he's an officer. I don't know how long he's worked there or anything, but did not have that common sense to realize that I never said a word to him when I came back and had him punched me in the face. And it's shown on the video. It's shown that he walked inside, didn't wait no more. 10 seconds to punch me in the face I mean I don't know what the officer was thinking to even bring that up or to even say that

oh who's at fault with this just just someone that we hold to a high standard like that to even ask that question is disgusting to me I mean how do you watch a video of somebody he punched in the face and not say oh

it's not my it's not it's my fault it's my fault even listen you know what he said he said, oh, well, he threatened me. He said, yada, yada, yada. It's like he never could articulate exactly what the threat was. He called me a fat ass. He said one time he called me a fass or said, fuck you fassass, and then he threatened me.

What was the threat? There was no threat. Like you're saying you're trying to just, he was trying to justify the assault by saying that you had threatened him and that maybe he was in danger. But you weren't in danger five minutes later when you were across the parking lot. And as far as him feeling like, he was. Like, hey, I can just go smash this guy. You have to understand that, I mean, I'm sure you haven't been in prison, but having myself been in prison, that the officers have absolute control over you.

They can do whatever they want and whatever they write up goes. So they can write stuff. They could go plant drugs in your locker, find the drugs, write up saying, hey, I randomly search this guy's locker and I found drugs. there is nothing you can do you can file a form you can dispute it you can say i didn't have any drugs he planted those drugs two other inmates saw him plant those drugs but i mean you see what i'm saying like you could have people unless another officer says he saw the guy plant it's it's over you've you had drugs in your locker like there's no there's no second guessing an officer so if an inmate looks at you cock-eyed and you punch him right in his face

all you have to do is say oh i was in fear of my life he threatened me and they go oh that was justified so even if other inmates see what happened oh an inmate's word is worth nothing it is really you're you're cattle bro we're just cattle in there so i can see why he like me looking at it from the perspective of a guy who's been in prison i know for a fact he felt 100% secure that he could get away with it and he has friends in the police force that weren't for the video that just came out he's getting away with it he may still get away with it he would think five minutes later you'd kind of calm down and say is this worth it is this worth doing this and going through all this process and but he also definitely

felt secure that he was going to be able to get away with it and and let's face it you know his his buddy made sure he didn't get arrested you know his buddy uh talk down the other officer because that other officer, I have no doubt, would have arrested him. But the way that he, I mean, I had respect for him until I saw the body cam with him going into his cruiser and saying, oh, he made a drop. I never made a drop. He had no proof I made a drop. Yeah, that's right. He did.

That's right. That's why he was saying, you made a drop at the prison. That's what he was trying to say. Yeah. And for him to say that with no proof just off of his word, the word is word. And it kind of made me lose some respect for the responding officer because why would you say that to make me look bad to your supervisor that could say that he wants him arrest him. Well, what about the phone? When you got the phone back, you got the phone back.

You looked at that you saw the video. You gave them the, what happened there? What do you mean when I got the phone back from, from early? Yeah, you got your phone back. You were still in the parking lot when you got the phone back. You got your phone back. So what? I asked for the officer to get it back from me.

And he, he went to go get it right away because he knew that he probably knew that it wasn't larceny because in statute and larceny it has to be intent to keep. So he probably, he went right away to get my phone and said, oh, yeah, he had right back to me.

But I had nothing on my phone. Okay. So what did you give, didn't you give video to? Oh, that's what you're talking. Yeah. The SIM card.

I thought you meant when he took my phone. The SIM card. Yeah. So what happened? Because you had the whole thing on, it was all recorded, right? Yeah. I very much by giving that to them. I had everything audio recorded, everything video recorded.

And I said, it's my only copy. And I gave it to them like a dumbass. I'm so super for doing that. Have you gotten it back? Have you gotten a copy? Nothing. Now my lawyer has a copy of it. Are they saying they even have it?

bro i'll be listen i let listen i bet you i bet you they say they lost it or oh there was nothing on it it it was he didn't record it i mean listen it's obvious that that whole that little click of officers i'm not saying all the deputies in that town or but it's it's it's obvious something's up oh yeah oh yeah there is it's just that one officer's action saying whose fault is it else could lead an example because I don't know if he was supervisor I don't I don't know his one actions could influence everyone else is like the rookie officer there he was influenced by that decision of what happened he asked the proper questions and now when he goes to something like this again he's not going to arrest somebody who is clearly at fault on video assaulting somebody

you could tell just watching the video you could tell he didn't understand why why they weren't arresting the the warden um until they basically started to try to and basically walked him, you know, talked him down. And so has your lawyer requested a copy of the SIM card? Everything. And they haven't. To my knowledge, he has not gotten it. I don't know if he got it in to tell me,

but to my knowledge, he has not gotten a copy of the SIM card. The other two body cam footage and the actual, they recorded the screen with their camera, he has not gotten that either. Well, when was the last time you talked to him? Friday. Okay. So he hasn't gotten it since Friday.

Yeah. Or prior to Friday. What is the, what, so what is he saying he's going to do? Well, first of all, he's saying that he's going to get another law firm to help out because he's saying that this is big. Right. So there's two lawsuits that can happen. One look for real directly and one with the prison. So the prison one, I have to wait until my charge to get dismissed or whatever.

And the interesting thing that happened. was I talked to him this Friday, and he said that I made an original complaint with the Diction's attorney's office, probably around three, four days after. And he said to me, the reason why they know nothing about this is because I misspelled my own name. They said I spelled my own name wrong, and that they said it's void on the paper that I get, the complaint. So when did they put it all together that it was you and that there was.

a complaint when did when did they put that together after the video came out well the original video uh the junkyard news upload the first video about it and that's when they knew oh it's not going away yeah it's not going away because i made so many calls before the junkyard news video came out i probably called i was annoying i was probably calling three times a week i even went there once to say hey what was happening with this i went there in person because i wasn't busy went there in person say, hey, what's happening with this? I made a complaint probably a month ago, and I said, I'll get a call back a week later, have got a call back. He's just like, oh, oh, okay, it's probably in her office. That's what the clerk said to me. It's probably in our office, so I don't see it down

here. And I said, what does that mean? She said, it doesn't mean anything. It just means it's our office. So I got her email and everything, and then it kept calling. No response for anything. I left so many voice messages, everything. And so finally, it took the junkyard news to upload a video about it for the elected official How did you get in touch with them? I emailed them. Okay. I meted a whole bunch of people because

I wasn't really involved with this First Amendment stuff until what happened to me. I got a ball with it probably like a week after. I started watching all these deals like oh shit this happens everywhere. Right. And then I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie to you. I was decent with the police before but now I hate them. I don't

hate them. I have a complete distinct for the like before i was like oh yeah i did this and this and this i'd let them i tell them everything i said i was coming from here coming from there now i get put or i don't tell them nothing right just because of that one interaction i had with them yeah it's like it's it's the one percent that makes the 99 percent look bad you know all you need is one asshole and and people immediately you know because it's it's the badge and the you know in the uniform and that you just immediately associate all of them being bad after something like that so so so so I interrupted you.

You said you were making phone calls to them. You sent an email. You went by. Then the video went up. And then what? They contacted your attorney. They contacted the elected prosecutor. Contact my attorney.

He said to me, it was funny how he said, he's like, man, you had an elected prosecutor call on me. I thought it was for a homicide case. He said that to me. And I'm like, oh, I told you. Yeah. he says man they're they never got your complaint they never got anything about this complaint they don't even know you existed here i'm like are you sure you he was like to me are you sure you made a complaint i'm like yeah i'm sure i made a complaint because he thought i didn't make

a complaint properly either but i didn't make complaint properly and i told him yeah i made this complaint and everything and then on friday last time talked to him was friday he said it didn't have the right name on it so that's why the go the complaint didn't get circulated or anything. And now they're looking into it. Oh, now they're really looking into it. So, you know, these little towns have such control over everything, like over their small, their little local newspapers, you know, the people in the town,

the businesses in the town, the little, the little, commissions you know the commissioners like they they have a lot of control a lot of the sheriff's deputies you know the sheriff so i mean usually they can make something go away the moment it starts to get national press it becomes a problem for them so sometimes a lot of times i've noticed is that the mistake that they tend to make is thinking we can cover this up okay you say this you say this, you say this, and since they have such control, since it's such a good old boy's network, right? Yeah.

It's they, they know the, they know the judge or the judges in the county. They know the, you know, the prosecutor. And they all work together. So because of that, they, they probably feel like we can arrange it in such a way that we can insulate ourselves by you say this, I'll say this, he'll say this, the judge says this. but when the national media gets a hold of it and it gets national attention a lot of that it makes it much more difficult but it's not that they won't still try and what always kills me is this is that when they try they'll try and try and then when it fails they'll continue this

kind of you know draconian just Machavelian lie and and try and just make it go away by lying about it where to me the best course of action is to come out immediately and do everything from now on by the book like that's the best course of action for them come out we made a mistake here are the mistakes here's what we've done to correct it here's what we're doing to make it right but instead typically what they do is continue that lie and they create a conspiracy and then nobody ends up trusting the police yep it's just it's a it's a common common problem for these small towns when they get themselves into a jam. I really thought this would be quick.

I thought after hearing what the person said to me, I'll hear back in a week. Right. They didn't hear nothing. And all this happened because they wanted to try and cover up, say, I misspelled my own name. I don't know how I misspelled my own name. Well, so. So listen, you know what I'm thinking? Like to me, if they were smart, they would have come to you immediately and tried to offer you a settlement.

listen we fucked up we're going to put a you know we're going to we're going to put a um you know whatever notice and this this officer he's going to have to take training uh he's going to get a you know get a mark against him and they're going to place it in his file uh we apologize we're going to go ahead and we've charged the the warden uh he's going to get probation and we'd like to give you $20,000 and just go away you know and then obviously your lawyer comes back and says, oh, hell no, it's this much. And you negotiate and you end up getting whatever it is, 200,000, half a million. I don't know what it is.

But whatever that figure is, you quash it as quick as possible. Like that's the best course of action for them, quash this as quick as possible to try and get it out of the media. But, you know, they don't. And then they end up paying millions of dollars. And nobody feels for them. I feel bad for taxpayers. That's the way the system works.

It doesn't benefit anyone except myself. It doesn't benefit the tax. It affects the taxpayers. And that's disgusting. It should affect the apartment. It should affect everything around the apartment. But it affects me and you. Well, you're certainly never going to trust a cop when he pulls up.

And anybody that sees that video doesn't want any interaction at all with the police after seeing that video. Man, I'm super curious to know what the worst part is. like whatever they if they do come to you that they'll immediately want you to sign a confidentiality agreement just to make it go away um yeah i'm curious to know what what happens you got to keep in touch with me let me know what happens i will i'm gonna i've been updating everybody on email about what's been happening the process and we also learned on friday is that i didn't mention yet it's probably going to be longer they are exempting the whole prosecuting office exempting themselves from both cases so they can't prosecute Earl they can't prosecute me so that's probably another six months down the line of what's going to happen okay so what they're going to go to a neighboring county and have them handle it okay because they got so many phone calls of people and everything like that listen that's actually i mean you may not think that but i'm sure your lawyer have told you that's probably that's probably a step in the right direction

it probably is but it's going to take forever and i just want to get to get to the part of where people are held accountable. That's my main thing, especially Earl. I want to get to where he is fired from his job, never be able to hold another government position. Again, I just want to get to that step as soon as possible. So he doesn't abuse anybody else inside or outside the prison. Yeah, I was going to say, he still has a job. He's still working there. I was going to say, you ever watch the First Amendment auditors and you'll see an officer that just goes nuts for no reason it's like like that guy shouldn't he shouldn't he shouldn't be in a position of authority some people just can't some people just shouldn't be in a position of authority i don't know

how people their peers can look at that i i just don't know how say his peers can look at that video and say what he did was okay yeah well unless you're being very biased towards him this it's just fascinating to me the amount of effort that goes to protecting this guy and said the amount of effort making it right. Well, I think the argument for him will be that the assault took place outside or off of prison grounds. The problem is that it started on prison grounds. Does that make sense?

He had an interaction with you and he carried it off of prison. So that doesn't make it right. He started it on prison grounds. And what he did while on the prison's grounds, that alone was, you know, He held you there against your will by blocking your ability to leave. And he had you arrested for something that you didn't do, you know, and, you know, whatever, filed trespassing. Like this whole thing that this guy, this guy's a problem.

He's turned it into, he's turned this into a really, really big deal when all he had to do was say, hey, man, what are you doing here? Oh, I'm just, part my car. I'm looking at my thing. I'm leaving right now. Oh, okay. Well, that's cool. No problem.

Like that, that could have been, it could have been that simple. I could have avoided this 110%. He stayed in this car. Wouldn't have happened. He let me leave. Wouldn't that happen. I would not even know his name if you just let me leave that prison that one day. But instead, he had to block me in, say I was making all these drops, which I never did.

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Okay, am I restricted property? Is this a private prison? Is it private? Is it private? Is it private? No. Okay, it's public. You're welcome here.

What? You're welcome here. Thank you. I'm going to go now. I don't know how you're going to go. Are you a cop? You're a correction officer. Is that a correction officer or a cop?

I don't know if public property. This is public property. It doesn't matter. It's public. You can't do that. If he's a cop? Is he a firmed cop? Anytime you come to a prison, your vehicle is something. Oh, you're not searching anything of mine. If you look at that sign, when you're not searching nothing.

You know it's going to be funny? You're not searching nothing. I don't care. Is this restricted property? Anyway, talk somebody to act like you got some sense. Oh, I study well. I know all this stuff. I was just going here. Anyway, when you pass that sign, you're a subject. Well, you're not searching. You're not searching. You're not searching me. I'm going to go.

Nothing's going to happen. What's your supervisor? Where's your supervisor? Okay. Where's your supervisor? Where's your supervisor? You know what? I want to wait and I'm going to film all around here.

That's what I'm going to do. That's exactly what I'm about ready to do. That's exactly what I'm about ready to do. It's public. It's public so he can. I'm looking up. I'm just telling you. Because ain't nobody got sense around here.

I'm trying to leave. Talking to me. Talking to me? Talking to me? Are you a supervisor? I'm trying to leave, can I leave? What you're doing up here? I'm allowed to.

This is public property. No, it's not. Yes, it is. So what are you doing up? Get a cop over here. I want to leave, I'm trying to leave. That's all I'm trying to do at this point. I want to leave.

Can I leave? No, can't. Okay. Okay. And who funds that? Who funds that? Oh, oh. Don't answer anything.

Oh, you're not getting any answers from me. You're not going to let me leave. You're so stupid. It's not. It's publicly funded. Taxpayers' funds. Are you, uh, or something? You're exactly.

Taxpayers fund in the inside. Taxpayers fund in the inside. That's probably going to know. You're exactly right. You're exactly right. And out here. Call the police. Call the police. Thank you. I'm trying to leave. Oh, they're coming, so. I'm not going to build it. Coffee, good night and trust, they have to caution. Coffee?

Coffee. Come on with it. Alright. No, you're not touching me. Are you a cop? I'm... This is my... Hey man, don't play with me.

Yes, I am. No, you're not. Taylor, record. Taylor, get my phone. Taylor, get my phone. Wait, you got the last. Hey, yeah, get out of this call. You want to get the same treatment.

Let's do it. Let's go. I'm not doing telling you nothing. Wait for the cops to get here. All right, we'll see. We'll see. I was just looking around with Gail. You can't do this.

What I'm not? This is public property. Hey, tell us. They're so stupid. You're so stupid. We'll see what happens. We'll see how you lose your qualified DNA. Hey.

You didn't see this guy? Hell, I block the car. Give me their phone. Don't delete any evidence. Don't delete any evidence. Can someone record this? Can someone record this? Hey!

Give me some chance off! Give me some cups! There's a little bit of a fair. It ain't going to be a fair handcuffs. There ain't nobody. There ain't nobody answering the damn radio of nothing. Nothing. I mean, make sure you off a two-pound back.

Hey. Where? He's saying like his car or something. Hey, what's going on? I'm superintendent, DeAzlo Errol. I work down here at the prison. These guys right here were escorted off the compound a couple of weeks ago by the sheriff, about a state troopers, they arrested them. So when they see me up here getting food, they come out, threading me to stand the other, circling the parking lot, run around the parking lot.

Oh, you fat motherfucker, we got you out here in the public. Now we're going to get you. So I come back in here, just that another. So he on the inside, then when he threw me out, I came inside, and I knocked his ass out. And the other one didn't get out the car. That's exactly what I did. Where they at? You got one stealing the car.

See, I got it home. So the same city... They're... See, the state triples locked them up about three weeks ago on the compound time to take pictures to drop off country. Right. So when they see me out here, they're gonna make their threats and all this for is me. I'm not going. Okay.

What car they at? They're in this beat up one right here. See, the owner was still hiding off in here. See, he was the upper. The last time. So does he work up here? No, nah, so when they, when they seen my truck, oh, you the warden, yeah, motherfucker, we coming back for you, this, there, and yada, yada, yada. No, they ain't going, that's as long. I can get a song back, y'all don't you.

Okay. You got his, you got his home? Yeah. You see what the other one look like? Yeah, see, he'll tell me. See, he was in the pattern side. side. I know we didn't see nobody.

He must have hop that around. It was early. It was as soon as I went back in. Okay. And he's talking, yeah, my motherfucker, we're coming back. You think of for seven late Tuesday. It threatened me. Because I'm not there at the unit.

I remember you checked me in the location. Right. I thought you didn't want it. So that would do. Right. Okay. Well, I don't know when that audience was coming up here earlier. What's good phone number for you?

870. When the state troopers locked them up, just dealt with. So what kind of threats do you make to it? I was talking about what they were going to do to me, this, that, and the other. So when I came back, I was going back inside then, because even the lady said something. She said, Mr. Earl, she said, I don't know those guys. I believe they got problems, just there and the other. So they was already out here making a threat to him when I was going back inside.

So when I was going back in, yeah, this is what I'm going to do. And that's when I knocked his ass out. And that's what exactly what I did. Catchardy? Go ahead. Are you seeing Adobe or anything like that? Yeah. Thank you.

You got a pin light on you? I do not. Do you have a pin light? Or not a slice of time. I'm not really good. Okay, so it's going to be a tight squeeze on here, I'm okay. And I had an experience with him, so I said, fuck you. And I walked in there.

He followed me in there. And I said, what do you say? I said, fuck you. And then he just punched me right in the face. He's the warden of the Wrightsville prison. Oh, okay. Okay, so you go to Maybeville, Caldicast. The day, the last one of the last four.

Bricklish driving in March of this year. Then that's the end of the bomb. I like you two. Okay, okay. Funky right in face. Yeah, no. I was here when that happened. Not the second time, but...

He's got to attack him. What the fuck? Do you come up here and, I mean, the part right here? You don't get food? You got to order yet. No? I'm not even hungry.

So you got his food? Right there. He came up. What do he do? What do he do? Well, I walked in there without even seeing him. And then I said... Pull back the cameras.

You see everything. He didn't even... They're working on it. Take this man in jail. Bullshit. Want me to see what happened? I was driving. I said, is that the warden to him?

That's the warden. He was like, yeah. So I went right there. I said, hey, I fuck you to him. I made... I said, fuck you to him. All right. They went up to my car and said, who are you?

And you did like, this is a window by... Hey, no. He tried to rip the rear of the mirror. Or the side mirror? He ripped my handle off. He tried to rip it. He ripped his handle off, trying to open the door. He was on the window up.

So he, the dude, the warden, whatever his name is. He should. Here's the amulet. He should have to go for a punch. He couldn't punch him. Are you listening? I'm listening? Oh, okay.

Not bad. So he tried to go for a punch, but the window was rolled up. Like, it was going, it was rolling up, and he tried to go for a punch. That's when I was, like, walked off, because I don't want to do with it. But I wasn't here for a second. Oh, the camera's back? I was literally in there alone and he walked in behind me. I see it, you're red right now.

Did they see it in there? Everyone saw it in there. You can see you turn this column towards him? He was trying to record, everything happened so fast. He knew it was coming. Yeah, yeah. He knew it was coming. See, he's looking at the door.

He's looking at the door like, there he comes. He put the phone out like he's going to record him. He didn't have enough time because he saw the hit coming. But why would he stand right from the door? Because he's seen no, he's coming in for him. I don't know. Either way he's in the wrong. Which one?

What you mean? I'm saying which one is in the wrong? The one that punched him. Yeah, look. This is that's called. You anything for me? I'm supposed. I don't know.

I don't really like that. I'm not going to put him. is right here. They're right there. Let's go back. Let's go back. I don't know what happened there. Tell me to stop because I don't know.

Right there is fine. No, because that was just the first time I don't know where he comes, where the director comes from. Ah, okay. See, and that's not the beginning because Chris called his order in. Where did the director come from? On what vehicle? I think his is a big pick-up on my hand. See, there's Chris again.

So he's messing with him. No, that's not Chris. Yeah, we're going to have to do that somewhere. Is that okay? Do you want to put play? Do you want to do it at two? Yeah, two times would be good. You can come on then.

Oh, you can't. Oh, you can't, okay. Yeah. I wonder when the drawer. I wonder when the dry coach. Is that they're going. No, Chris is about to pull around here. There he comes.

I think he sees them. That's what it is. He saw him through the window. the windows maybe. He's parking. Chris had something. Oh, that's when he ripped his door handle on. Is you making a phone call?

Yeah, you're making a phone call? I'll see what I'm going to be. Y'all can come on in, I'm fine. Oh, kinda, they say a smaller, I'm big in there. You're okay. I can say it here. There he comes back. There he comes back your hand.

Now is that?