Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - WHY MY HOUSE WAS RAIDED... (FULL PODCAST)

Episode Date: February 3, 2022

Tommy goes over the time his house was raided...

First thing I see as the cops walking around is a fucking barrel of a fucking AR-15. Hey, this is Matt Cox, and we are going to go ahead and do a video real quick. They always say it real quick and they end up being like two hours. It's going to be a little hour. So, all right, well, this is Tommy Sikorsky, I'm assuming. Soporsky. Soporsky with a P. Yes, sir.

All right. So, anyway, he's got a crazy story. It was one of the largest was, well, you were part of one of the largest drug families. In Pasco County, the headline, when I got in trouble, my house got raided. It was a family they say is heavily entrenched in local drug sales. You know, that wasn't the largest or not like that. But I was definitely doing good, eating good and getting real high. Right, right.

Well, I mean, I think it was, I meant the family that an actual family, entire family got in. The whole family was involved. all doing stuff um but i'll give you i'll get you a little rundown of what had happened um basically i moved down here from chicago illinois back in 94 went to high school started selling weed and shit like that you know um as progressed time and and and i would progress and started messing with coke and acid and beans ecstasy um you know all that good stuff um i went to prison the first time wait wait wait so you moved down here from chicago how old were you 14 okay your whole family moved down? Yeah. My mom and dad divorced. My mom got my stepdad, and that's who raised me down here with

my mother. And had three more children together. Right. At that time, were they involved in drugs at that time? No, no, no. My mom and dad, my mom worked for the hospital band at point, Colombian regional at point. She worked there for like 15 years. When everybody started getting involved in the drugs is kind of when I went to the pain management doctor for an auto accident I was in, got prescribed pain pills started making money with that and then my mom had quit working right go ahead i'm sorry but that wasn't so well let's go back so but initially it was just you as a teenager you started growing up selling weed in school making some extra money had a little dishwashing job at a hudson square cafe right um you know but uh of course everybody likes money so i'm doing a little bit of stuff on the

side and and it just progressed you know everything would get it would more would come more would come. More would come. And what I mean by that is, you know, I could make more money if I sell a little bit of Coke with this weed. I hope I can sell these beans that I get from a friend of mine over here and I can make more money. I'm getting them for, you know, four or five dollars that I'm selling for 10 or 15, you know. Can I ask you watch it? What's a bean? What is ecstasy? I don't know what that is. Exstasy. Sorry. Sorry. I don't. Hey, some people that are watching, they might not know. You know what I mean? But if they fucked with it, they know. I fucked with it. So I wrote ecstasy and stuff like that. Okay, so I wrote a story about a bunch of

guys in Hudson, Florida. And it was Lance Barabbas. I know who they are. Yeah, yeah. I went to school with my girlfriend. Okay. So the kid's name was Doug Dodd. I wrote his book, his memoir when I was in prison. So yeah, when you say Hudson, like I think about, they owned the Holy Ground. Right, right. Absolutely. I know who they are. Okay. Yeah. All right. And sorry. I just, I just, it's, we You said Hudson, I thought, hey, that's worth. Absolutely. That's one of the, that, now, now they were one of the largest. They didn't fuck off, you know? Right. They did their thing.

There's plenty of other families that did their thing. Hudson, Shady Hills, Moon Lake. I mean, of course, that's, you know, backwood shit, but that's where all the dopes at. Right. On the lake, out in the Shady Hills, you know what I'm saying? People dropping fish tanks and getting pounds of dope out of them, you know what I mean? that's where it happens so that's why

I don't know what that means I don't know what that means bro when I say dropping fish tanks hold on Tony so hold on you said fish tanks right well

he's not gonna cut this up he's gonna like what you just said is going on there they like it like that yeah okay so on on yeah what's a fish tank on the raw note

when I said dropping fish tanks out in the hills or in Moon Lake it's cooking dope methamphetamine you know um i don't personally know how to do it i've seen it done i've watched the tanks get put in the ground and i've watched the tanks get pulled out of the ground and had shards where you could hold a little baby they're so big feed them you know um crazy shit um a lot of cocaine and crack

back in the day um it's it's just that that that area right there in pascal county that's to be the title you know what i'm saying crack in the day back in the time i mean it's uh it was turned up you know i mean pasco county had had held the spot for quite a while for number one in the united states for overdoses on opiates because of the pain pill pain pill pandemic you know what i'm saying that was that was a thing you know what i'm saying all the all the doctors around here tampa polk county you know what i'm saying all that this big circle area that we're in right now that's where they were writing scripts right where people were doctor shopping and all that and that's what got me going on to the next level.

You know what I mean? I've seen all the money I could make with these Vicodins, laura tabs, laur sets, Xanax, volumes. So I'm making money, but I'm spending money too because I'm using.

I'm not, I'm not, okay, so again, now you have people that say that they just sold dope and this, that, the other thing, and they never did it. A lot of them might not have did it, but a lot of them did. Right.

I'll tell you the truth. I did, drugs. I shot dope. I smoke crack. I smoke meth, all that. But I don't care because I changed my life. I'm doing good now. So it doesn't bother me to tell you that. And if you look down or maybe not you, but if the next guy looks down on me, I really don't give a shit. Well, I get that all the time too. But guys are like, you know, you take advantage of people. You do this. You do that. What I did 20 fucking years ago has nothing to do with the person that I am right now. You want to say, hey, you were a scumbag.

Okay, well, I was a scumbag. But, you know, but you're saying, oh, you're still this. You're still, stop. You don't fucking know. Yeah. And really, I'd take advantage of you, too, if I was still that way. So watch your mouth. You know what I mean?

Really. I mean, that's what it is because you can get busted right now. You know what I'm saying? Those are just people hating on you. They're just mad because they didn't have the scam and we did. You know what I mean? So haters will be haters. It's all good, you know.

But I'm the same way, I just brush it off. It's like, all right, you know, you can't do anything about it. Listen, whether it's good things or bad things that people are saying, they're still got you on their mind. So guess what? I did the job. You know what I mean? I like it when people talk. I don't care if it's good or bad.

Why are you always talking about me? I must be interesting. You know what I mean? So like I was saying, shit just like progressed. And I did go to prison the first time for multiple charges, a burglary, battery, grand theft auto, basically scamming system. and shit. My buddy had a bike. He wanted to get stolen so he can collect insurance money.

I go ahead and get the ball rolling. I got somebody that's going to go in there, kick his door in, steal the street bike so he can get paid for it. So they're going to fake a home invasion. Right. Or a burglary. This was the burglary with the Grand Theft Auto attached to it. So, okay, cool.

I got you, bro. I line it up. Get the jet that's going to steal the bike. Now my friend calls me and tells me, oh, we can't do it. this we can't do this sit me you know what I'm saying you already you already put the ball in motion you know what I'm saying so I left it alone when my friend called me left that shit alone he calls me one day and he says hey man I'm going to Tampa to go get a program for my computer you want to ride with me I said no man I'm busy as fuck you know what I'm saying I got shit going

on call me when you get back all right man I'm out of here I'll talk to you later boom he leaves hey man hey tight up he's gone all right bet my friend went over there and got the bike you know what I'm saying burnt his ass now he don't get none of the money but the insurance money because your shit got robbed I don't know what you're talking about right he comes back about an hour later screaming you're a piece of shit I can't believe you did this to me just that the other thing and I just basically told him what are you talking about you know I don't right never gonna tell him myself you know what I mean well I mean so if you

think that's what happened you should tell the fucking police yeah they're called the cops that you know i know it's him because i was gonna set up myself for the insurance hey look here man oh so you were going to do insurance fraud now report the bike stole it you know so at any rate i ended up getting arrested because a couple people weak links you know they told on me um another burglary battery the basically it was like a home invasion it's a level seven i think it was um my brother was dating a chick with her baby's dad okay so they break up right the girl gets with my brother he has his son on father's day weekend so my brother is at work i'm at a friend's house and my brother calls me screaming hey bro go go over there with uh rene and get uh mikey back you know michael's not giving

mikey back so i'm like what's going on i'm just waking up you know at the time i was doing a lot of paying pills. So before I really do anything, I got to bust me down a blue real quick and get right. You know what I'm saying? I got to get right. I'm dope sick right now. So I turn around and get right. I call my brother back. He gives me the rundown. So we go up to Spring Hill. So I have a question. So when you say dope sick, like how long does it take? Like overnight, just sleeping overnight by the time you wake up. When you wake up in the morning, you're not feeling good. You're under the weather. You know what I'm saying? Because you're addicted to oxies. Yeah, you're going to be sneezing, sweat and cold, you know, it's terrible.

It's probably one of the worst drugs I've ever done. Well, probably the worst for you as far as withdrawals, you know? Right. So we went back up. We went up to Hernando County. And I asked the girl, I said, Renee, what do you want me to do? The door's locked. He's not answering the door.

We see them in the house. You know, what do you want me to do here? man you know she's like just open the door for me no no no this that the other thing crying of course i feel soft and you know i'm i'm kind of heartbroken too you know she wants her kid back the poor girl can't do nothing so i turn around i kick the door off the hinges which is the reaction of just anybody would do that right and listen so she has bills on at this house in her name right okay so technically speaking right she's yeah she's got a claim to the house i'm opening this door for her right so i opened the door we walk in and here comes michael what the

fuck you know he's swinging on me and all this well i knocked his ass out so that's where the burglary battery came in because i went through the threshold of the door into the home and then battered him right so i got a burglary battery didn't get no kidnapping because it was her kid brought the kid home whatever whatever. Well, because my last name, you know, is a motherfucker. They couldn't spell my last name. So they couldn't charge me for like four or five months. I'm out running around hanging out. Well, then I finally get picked up on some shit in Pasco. And I go to jail and I'm done. I'm not bonding out no more. I'm done with all the bond money. And, uh, tell them how much your money you spent in bond money in your parents um in in bond money in one year

I spent uh it was 25,000 so that's 2,500 plus my lawyer was another 2,500 so that's 5 excuse me um then I spent 25,000 again another 2,500 on a lawyer then I spent 25,000 again another 2,500 on a lawyer so the lawyer's already at 7,500 my bond's already at 7,500 on the 10%. Then my bond went all the way up to like 55,000. So that was 5,500. The lawyer kind of working with me, you know, I didn't really have to keep giving them money every time. And my bond went up to 65,000. Then it went up to 90,000. I think it was 90,000. Why is it going up? Because I kept missing court. The reason I would miss court was a drug addict. I would, you know, sell drugs to do drugs. So I'm smoking crack all night.

doing coke and all this other shit, get a shower. I'd be drying off, literally, looking in the mirror while I'm drying off in the bathroom. And I'm like, you know, cross-eyed jaw way over here because I'm so high on Coke. And I'm looking at myself and I'm like, bitch, I can't go to court right now. You know what I mean? The judge is going to throw me in jail. Right. So fuck court.

I'll re-bond. I don't have to see the judge today. My mom would scream. Tommy, your fucking bond's going to go. go up. That's okay, mom. Just put the house back up. I'll pay the cash. Don't worry about it. And of course, mom, you know, was always on my team. It didn't matter what her son, her baby boy did. She was coming. She was signing that deed of that house. I was putting up to 10% and I was getting out of jail. I bonded out so many times that when I would come to jail, the people in

booking would be like, hey, Siporski, you bonding out or you staying? I'm bonding. You know, I got a bond, right? I'm shit, I'm out of here, biz. You ain't even got to dress me out. You know what I'm saying? And then now you can mention me, DOCTV. That's where we met.

Oh, you met in, okay. You've been arrested, what, like 35 times, right? I've had 35 arrests on my record. I got 35 arrests on my record, whether it be violation of probation, new charges, this, that, the other thing. That's where I met, John. Josh, DOCTV-813, that's how I met you. I met him in the county jail on one of my escapades of missing court, them off-bonding me, have to get a new bonds officer.

That's another thing, too, that I would bond out from one bond company, be out for two months, go to court maybe once. The other time I had missed court, then they would off-bond me, arrest me, go back to jail. now I'm in the county jail making three-way calls making my money to pay my bond you know what I'm saying I'm having my mom go do this go grab this go drop it off over here get this money put it over here give it to the bondsman go sign your fucking name on the dotted line get me out mom love you you know and when I met him in county jail all that was going on and when I first met him I was like because you know when you're in county jail there's a lot of people saying all that stuff like

I'm going to get bonded. Yeah, yeah. I thought he was for shit. At first, I didn't think he had any money. And then boom. Listen, this is what I would do. I'm not worried about canteen. I'm worried about bond money.

Right. As you see, I'm a big boy. You know what I mean? I can miss a meal or two. I don't need to eat a brick tonight. What I need is to be home so I can smoke some more crack, do some more Coke, shoot some more goddamn pills. That's what I want to do.

So the people in jail would actually call me Jay Jean Wentworth. Because I would be on the phone. telling my people how to do this and do that and go get my money go handle this so this is the doctor this is when you're doing doctor shopping at this point at that point i was doing doctors and prescriptions and all that which i did that for 20 years of my life i did that since 2000 listen i wrote fake prescriptions for vikinans back in 2000 when people were doing them for roxies and oxies and shit that was 10 years later eight years six years eight years later that's i already did that Now I'm sponsoring people to the doctor.

I'm taking you and all your family, friends, and whoever you can get me to take to the doctor, I'm going to go ahead and get their scripts for the low. I'm going to give them a little bit of crack because they want to smoke crack. They don't want to do pain pills. I'm going to go ahead and give them the crack. Take all their pills for dirt cheap.

And then I'm going to bust them down for $30, $35 a piece, $20 a piece. You know, they started at $10. So you mean, wait, what's a pill cost, basically? Okay. So back in the day, when I first started getting Roxy's in 2004, 2005, when they first came out, you were getting them from mom and pop pharmacies for like 60 to 80, 90 cents. Right. And you're selling them for? I'm selling them for $10.

All right. So $10. So you got a good profit margin. All right. Then when I went to prison the first time and came out, the pills were all the way up to $15 a piece. And they were like $6 at the pharmacy. You know what I'm saying? So there's $6.

So on 120 pills, you know, you do this. 600, 720. You're paying $720 for a script of 120 blues. But before I went to prison the first time, you were getting from one doctor. I was, one doctor I was getting 330-30s, oxycodones, 150 oxy-80s, 480 methadone tens, 120 Xanax bars, 90 flexorol, and 60 somas from one doctor. One. So, right there, you're making over. $10,000 and each one of these get each one of your people are going to what just one doctor some of them are going to two three four five I had I had and how many people okay sorry 50 about 50 you know on that could be up with that could be 150 scripts okay so look if I'm sponsoring that many people to the

doctor or I was taking that many people to the doctor or however it was going down I was actually able to take as many people as I wanted and still support 750 to $1,500 a day drug habit still walk around in nice clothes, still drive foreign whips, you know, it may not have been my

foreign whip, but I bet you I was driving one, you know what I'm saying? So, um, at the end of the day plus, you know, I'm doing meth at the time now, you know, I mean, this was a very How old were you? When I was doing the meth and shit about

25 on up to about 30 you know i did it for about five years um i've done a lot of drugs man um i've i didn't discriminate you know what i'm saying if you got you fucked up i wanted to try it you know what i mean because that's a life i was living you know uh i mean i've i've done a lot you know formaldehyde wet PCP all that shit you know the embalming fluid yeah yeah i've done that i've done heroin i've done crack pills meth molly well wet is what when they When they dip the cigarette or the joint in that formaldehyde. It's PCP, basically, from what I know.

I could be lied to, but I tried it, you know. You'd sit here and stare at each other for 45 minutes before you came out of the cloud talking about, man, I'm fucked up. Man, I'm fucked up. Man, I'm really fucked up. You know, that shit have you twisted, you know? You'd be spun the fuck out. You didn't.

That's the only thing you said because, man, I'm fucked up. So where are you living now? You're living at your parents' house? Pasco or you're living next room? I've had my own home a few times, quite a few times, lived with people, had a roommate, you might have been my roommate, you know, four or five other people might have been my roommate. But my sole main address was my parents' house, 9535, 35, Gary Street. You can look that up. It's, like I said, the raid that happened was 2014, so any of your viewers can look at it. It's, uh, it was pretty nasty. Fourteen people.

arrested. Everybody got some kind of drug charge. My dad got a gun charge. Fell in possession of a firearm. Is that when you told me about earlier? Yep. So what happened? Tell me what happened. So I'm basically selling dope. My mom's selling dope. My dad's going to the

pain management doctor. My mom's selling his pills. My sister's helping them. The whole family was involved in selling pain pills. That's what we mainly did. By the grace of God, I never got knocked off with a criminal informant or nothing like that. However, he did straighten me out because I'm doing good now.

But this is what happened. So my mom, my sister, and my brother sold to undercovers multiple times. And they had reason to come because they bought pills from them at my parents' house. So that's what gave them the search warrant. Right. So on September 14th, 2014, no, September 24th, 2014, I was sitting upstairs in my parents' house. I had about, let's see, my mom, dad was arrested, and 12 other people. So, mom and dad were the only ones that weren't partying upstairs with me.

The other 12 were, me included, so 11 more people. We were all upstairs getting high on meth, shooting pills, hanging out. it's about 5.45 in the morning when the flash bang went off. They had to kick in the garage side door because my parents actually took, you know how you used to drop like the wood over like a double door so you couldn't open it with the big metal brackets? Like on a barn. Like on a fucking barn.

That's what my dad had on the front door of our house, okay? My dad didn't play with a big old four by four fucking lumber fucking. timber, landscape timber dropped off in that bitch. So when they went to bang the door, I don't know how I didn't hear this except for my parents' house was kind of large. I'm all the way in the

back part of the house upstairs. And I'm high as fuck on meth. You know, when you're on methamphetamines, you fucking can hear a pin drop fucking a mile away. These cock-sucking cops are fucking beating on my door trying to bash the thing in and throw the flashbang and I never heard none of that.

But what they did, they went around the side of the and went through the garage door and then busted the garage door going inside the house through the flash bang popped the fucking wood up from the door and then they opened that door first place they went to was mom and dad's room it was right over here so as they're secure in the house they go mom and dads of course they open my mom and dad's bedroom my dad's got the old pistol sitting on the nightstand you know felon and possessed no firearm 71 year old man you know what I'm saying he didn't give a fuck he'll put one in you you know um so he got knocked off first they get them zip tie to get them out on the front lawn well then we got like eight pit bulls at the at the time and of course you do absolutely

you know what I'm saying you need them you need them to support and protect your drugs like a castle it's like a castle there's a firearm it's protecting your investment so you got to have pit bulls running all over and guess what some of these cock suckers don't get along with the other cock suckers So you got fucking three dogs pinned over here in a fucking front room. Then you got a fucking gate and you got another gate. You got four more dogs over here. I got a 110 pound pit bull upstairs with me that's fucking trained to kill. So in order for them to get back to me and get upstairs and arrest us, we're fucking chunky dope over the balcony of the house.

They haven't got through the privacy fence yet on either side of the house to get into the backyard. guard. So I'm chunk and dope and I'm telling everybody, man, get rid of your shit. They're coming. I promise you that's the cops. So next thing you know, they're finally coming up the stairs. The first thing I see coming up, my house, the bedroom had a spiral staircase come upstairs. The first thing I see as the cops walking around is a fucking barrel of a fucking AR-15 or some kind of assault rifle, whatever the fucking cops have. So I see that I'm like Fuck here we go

Put my arms up in the air You know what to be This I hate try to get shot Because I want to bond out And get high again You know what I'm saying? Straight up So they tell everybody

Lay down on the floor My dog's barking He's ready to chew one of them up Hold on Let me get my dog I put him on the back porch I got no weapons I took you know

Lift up my shirt Take the dog out in the balcony Tie him up Come back in Lay down on the ground boom they zip time me you're going to jail this time motherfucker I said I go to jail every other time too

but I bond out fuck you get me to jail pussy you know what I mean let's go I get us all out front whole time I think I already said this my dad was screaming at me screaming you know I'm the motherfucker that got

the house rated well they start reading a search warrant and guess whose name wasn't in it mine mom sister, brother, sales and possession to this criminal informant within a thousand feet of a school zone

bum, bum, bum, you know? So when they get done reading the search warrant they go back in the search in the house now I'm sitting there telling my dad well I guess it wasn't me that they're here for you know I didn't get caught right. Mom, way to go you know, real nice. Look at this

fucking ruin my night, you know what I mean? So I had got, I threw dope over the balcony. They did find one baggy with 3.6 grams of methamphetamines inside my house. They arrested me and about six others with that same charge. Simple possession of methamphetamines. Well, when we get to court or when we get to jail, you know, we got to go to advisories in the morning. So I go ahead and tell everybody there.

Hey, look, man, I'm going to get you out of jail. You're going to tell everybody, tell the state, tell, you know, the state's attorney did it was my dope. I'm going to tell them it was my dope. That'll free you on your little possession charge. I'm going to prison anyways because all the other slew of charges I already got. You know what I mean? I keep bonding out of jail and shit.

So, of course, I do that. I take the charge. I go to prison. But before I do that, I bond out again. Let's go on a rampage. I know I'm going to prison now. You know what I mean? So now I'm really going to get loose.

Well, my mom's bond was like 80. 85, 95 grand. It was, it was just under 100,000. So we bonded, my brother actually bonded me, him, my father out at first, all right? And then Corey and Curtis. Curtis got bonded out by one of his people. My brother bonded Corey out.

That was like $10,000 worth of cash to bond us five out. Right. But when we get out of jail, get my mom a lawyer working on her bond reduction so we can get her out. you know mom duke's got to come home that's mom she don't belong in there right even though we're we're living that life mom don't need to be in jail right her home to turn around she complained about uh shortness of breath and stuff while she's in jail they take her to ban at point where she used to work in orange and white stripes oh handcuffs okay horrible horrible

and uh they operate they're going to do a bypass on her Oh, it was serious. She wasn't. Listen, it's very bad. My mom actually died that night. She died from a brain aneurysm. So it sucks. The phone call I got at home killed me, you know? I couldn't even go to the hospital to see my mom to identify.

Not that they needed me to identify her, but they were allowing us to come up there, you know? Right. I couldn't. I was so high on dope and I was already fucked up in the head to hear. hear that my mom just died. I couldn't even go to the hospital. That's how fucked up I was. So she ended up dying from a brain aneurysm.

The doctor called me, called my mother's phone because when we got arrested that night, everybody in the house went to jail, but my little sister, Bettina, she didn't go to jail. She didn't have nothing. Her boyfriend took the charges, so she didn't go to jail.

That was the only one person that was in my house that did not go to jail that night. Um, so they call my mom had Bettina down for the, uh, what you can call it, uh, emergency contact. So they're like, oh, can we speak with Bettina Vagel, blah, blah, blah. Oh, no, you can't. What, who is this? Well, this is Dr. DeSantis. Tommy, you remember me?

I worked with your mother for years. I said, yes, I know who this is, Dr. DeSantis. You did my father's open heart surgery. He says, well, I was just doing your mother's too, but I need to speak to Batina Vagel. she's emergency contact i cannot so i'm already yeah yeah i'm already uh oh okay hold on a minute so i give the phone to a tina she drops boom he just told her the mom just died um again i was out on bond and now before i thought i was going to go ham i really went ham now i don't even care about taking a person to the doctor i don't care about doing this that or the other thing

i'm going to walmart i'm taking him and him with me they're going to walk out with shopping carts full shit. I'm going to go then trade it to the dope man. I'm going to go over to his house because I know he's got pills. I'm going to slap the shit out of him and I'm going to take his shit. Now I don't care. I just want to die. My mom just died. My mom's my best friend. So now instead of me being the Tommy that everybody knew, you know, was going to do and handle business, I'm just smacking people and taking shit. Right. You know, maybe not even have to smack them because they already know what time it is. The outcome's going to be the same.

Whether you're going to go away with, I'm going to walk away with your pills or I'm going to walk away with your pills and you're going to be beat up. Right. You know what I mean? Because I didn't fucking play. I was about my issues.

So it was bad. I did that for shit. So I did that from, let's see, October 2nd, she died, October 3rd of 14. I did that type of shit All the way till August of 15 I finally went back to jail

No bond Said fuck it It's time to go Went to prison Straighten myself up in there Got right How much time did you get in prison Fifty four months

I did In the state 48 yeah I did four years State prison But when I get there Four days for my birthday My stepdad that raised me died 11 months later my sister she got out of prison for her sales and possessions she dies another year later my real dad out in California that I don't even talk to he dies you know I'm his only son so of course they had to contact me and everything it was crazy um but also it did help me finally get a grasp on life and think about things a little bit you know um how you dealt with the best when you were in prison and in a little bit

out of your prison, right? Yeah, yeah, that's good. Yeah. Well, so when I first went back to prison the second time, when I first got there, and, you know, like I said, it was right before my birthday, my dad passes and all that. It was bad, you know, at that point, I wasn't ready to turn around yet, so, you know, I'm smoking a little bit of weed, smoking some tunchy. But then I see everybody smoking the tundi, the K2 shit, whatever, you know, the little

spice well I see people smoking this shit then are like hitting this thing two times and fucking you know

like twacking out they think they're on fire and they think I'm looking I'm like and you're thinking that's a good idea I said hey man

what's that thing right they're doing what the fuck I said bro he's tripping you know these people get butt naked start fucking slamming their hands

on the fucking concrete, like motherfucking Donkey Kong and shit. It was crazy the shit that I seen. So now, here I am telling dude to give me some spice. So you see this and you think I got to get some of that.

I got to do that. I said to myself, I didn't say it like that, but what I said was, God damn. I got to try some of that but I don't want to get butt naked and beat on the ground. But this, if you fucked up like that, you just got to respect the dope.

You know what I'm saying? If he hit it two times, I'm going to hit it one and a half. You know what I'm saying? I want to go right before that, you know? God. And thank God that I was able to do that and like not get that fucked up.

But I'll tell you, it didn't last long and I stopped. I said, man, I'm not doing this shit. I said, I've seen, I've watched people projectile vomit puke. I've watched people fucking rubbing on themselves, licking at the officers in the officer's state. I mean, I've seen it all, you know. I've saved people from dying, you know, holding them on their side so they're not choking on their puke. The shit was crazy.

That shit that they spray on that whatever potpourri leaves that it is, I don't even fucking know. Has you so fucked up. And then 20 minutes later, you come out of it and you're like, what's up? So I quit. I'm done. Now I'm only smoking 6,180, which is weed. You know, that's what we call it in prison. You're going to get 60 days in a box, 180 days loss of gain time.

So I'm thinking to myself, well, at least if it's just weed, I should be all right. I ain't going to get butt naked and run laps around the fucking dorm. You know what I'm saying? But I can still get a little buzz, you know? But then I stopped doing that too because now I'm worried about losing all my gain time. Going home later and I'm supposed to. I don't want to be here. Nobody wants to be in prison.

I definitely don't want to be here longer than I have to be because I'm a dip shit that can't stop smoking weed. Can I ask you a question real quick? So you're about to, so you're getting out. I mean, you've had a bunch of deaths. Like that's basically your support system is gone. I mean, is that what's happened? Like, are you in prison knowing I'm getting out,

I'm on my own? Because at least, because the guys that get out of prison that have a support system that's still there to cushion the blow, like they have a better time. Well, they have a better, it's easier for them to acclimate themselves to society. But if you're getting out and you know, I'm on my fucking own. I don't got a fuck thing. Right.

Okay. So that's the situation. That's the situation. That sucks. Let me go ahead and rewind a little bit. When my father passed, my stepdad that raised me, that's dad, you know, he raised me since I was nine. We had the house still, mortgage $500 a month, five bedroom, two-story house, two-thirds of an acre. got Janet, Bettina, and Little Robert living there.

You would think even being drug addicts, because I know what I'm doing, I'm going to monopolize and capitalize right now. I'm going to rent three bedrooms out for 500 apiece. That'll pay electric water, cable, and the mortgage, right? I'm going to have a few hundred dollars left over to get high. I'm going to have a home that everybody can come over and get high at, which means I can. can get high off their dope because they're partying at my house they didn't do none of that they just ran the shit into the ground the house got foreclosed on i'm getting letters from lawyers saying that the house is trashed and i own 117000 dollars well the way that a mortgage works is

when mom and dad die they bet you're not coming after me for it that's that's i mean even if they did try to collect the debt from their civil siblings, I'm not his sibling. My mother passed, which totally took me away from my stepfather. He never adopted me. I'm the only Soporski in the family. Everybody's a vagal. All right. So when that happened, my mom died, you ain't nothing to me. Okay. When I go to prison and now you lawyers keep sending me letters telling me you're going to sue me for this, that, and the other thing. They're just trying to scare you. They don't have a real claim. The first couple letters I wrote them were nice. Hey, look, in paragraph 13, you said Anna R. Vagel died on October 3rd, 2014, leaving any and all interest of the estate of Robert Marshall Vagel to him, right?

So now, my mom gave her part of the house up, obviously, because she's dead to my father. Well, stepdad. Yeah. Nothing to do with me anymore. You just told me that in paragraph 13 of this big, long letter, packet of papers, that fucking thick that they sent me, right? Well, they're hoping you're not going to figure it out. you're going to try and pay. I don't even know why they would think you were going to pay.

You're in prison. Man, I don't know. They must have been doing some of the dope I had before I went to prison because they were definitely high. I wouldn't pay in the fuck thing. So turn around and I send them a couple letters. They keep sending me back. I keep getting legal mail callouts, you know?

So now you're disturbing my day of being in prison, being able to do nothing or go to work and do a little bit of work. Now I've got to go stand in a fucking line, whether it's raining, cold, or what, up in the panhandle with a bunch of country, ass cracker fuck ass redneck cops being dicks okay to go wait for this fuck ass mail well now i'm standing there waiting on the mail so i get like the fourth packet of papers right so i go to the officer station and i get a visitation list of approval thing right i get that and i write another

letter i said any of you that want to come and see me so we can discuss what we're going to do with the bill of this house. I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to tell you this now, and I'm going to tell you when you get here, when you get approved on the visit list. You can eat my dig. Thank you, sincerely, Thomas Soporski, and I mailed that bitch up, went to fucking legal mail one last time, sent that boy out. Never heard from him again. That's your ass, Mr. Post. Yeah, that's your ass, Mr. Post, man. I'm done fucking with these people. Like, you keep

telling me I owe you $117,000 for this house. You know, the way I look at it is if you're holding the note on the mortgage and the fucking people die you still got the house and land to sell for the 117 so you better put a fucking sign up in front of that house because you ain't getting the fuck thing for me yeah that was that was the collateral for the loan there's nothing you can't come after right even if it doesn't it doesn't matter they're not going to they're trying to they're hoping you're hoping you're hoping for it that's what they're hoping for yeah so i've taught all them fucking people at the at the lawyer's office man i'm not paying you i don't know what you're talking about my name is saporski there's his vaguel fuck you

and the horse you rode in on you know so boom i get out of prison and um i let my my kid's mom um she's remarried her husband has adopted my children he's a disabled vet they get insurance and schooling and this and that and the other thing and he's a great guy me and him are really good friends okay he that's the same thing with my son he's a uh my son was adopted by my ex-wife's a new husband same ex fucking uh he's an ex-marine awesome guy. My kids benefit from it and not only did they benefit on it, benefit from it. I was being an asshole. I was fucking up on drugs. He's taking care of my kids, man. I bit the bullet, man. It sucks. But they're my kids. I see them all the time now. You know what I'm

saying? I gave my daughter a house to live in. I didn't give her a house, but I had rented a house when I got out of prison. After first, I went and stayed with my baby mom and her husband. All right? They let me stay in my son's room. They gave me in bed. They went and bought me clothes and shoes and, you know, got me right. Me and my girlfriend had got back together. She went and got me clothes and shoes and cologne and watches and this and that. And then we got a house.

So we get a house. We move into the house. And my girlfriend and I have been in a lot of trouble in Pascoe County. So she was living in St. Pete at the time. she works down at a sports bar down there and um she don't like living up here she's starting to feel like um not like she wanted to go relapse or nothing like that but she feels like all her memories from up here in pasco are bad and she wants a fresh start someone and she already's got the fresh start because she's been home for almost three years by time i get out okay she did a nickel she did

five years. So she's with a dude. She already started over down in St. Pete. Now we move up, she moves back up here with me. So we end up kind of breaking up, kind of like taking a little break, and she moved back down to Clearwater to her friend Bree's house. And then we went and got an apartment down in Clearwater. So I left the house with my daughter that I was renting, switched the lease over into her name and her boyfriends, in the middle of all that. I got a really good job. I detailed cars, assistant manager, making good money, doing the right thing, staying sober, drink a little bit, that's about it, you know.

So we moved down to Clearwater, and we've been doing good ever since, you know, we don't, but we stay away from up here in Pasco County or up in Pascoe County. Again, it's like all the memories, all the past, you know, I go to a gas station because I sold dope or did dope for the last 25 years of my life up there, you're always run into somebody that knows you from your past. And my dad always used to tell me if you lay with the dog long enough, you'll get fleas too. Yeah, yeah. So, it's great. I have the same, look, I have the same thing. It's like, look, people are like, oh, you hang out with these guys or do that. No, I don't. They're like, well, why if you're not doing anything wrong? Because it's nothing for you.

of a feather flocked together. Well, that's what the FBI said. Let's say the FBI indicts these five guys and I'm hanging out with them. Let's just add my name to the indictment. So, you know, I don't have to have done anything. Oh, but you didn't do anything. Doesn't fucking matter. And guess what one of the easiest charges to prove is.

Yeah, conspiracy. Well, you were there. Because they talked about it in front of you and now you're getting bent over in the courthouse. And the fact is, is like you've got five guys that have been indicted and I'm one of them. You think that they're not going to say, look, Cox is saying you didn't have anything to do with it. but if you say he did we can help you out like one of my buddies wouldn't be wouldn't be like well fuck how help how how much help like you know boom just like that and i there's nothing i can

do well listen not for nothing but loyalty is not there anymore when it comes to stuff like that i've been told on um it is what it is i'm not mad at the person that told on me hey i did what i did it is what it is i don't care what they did I don't care that you told on me I don't care none of that I don't hold grudges hopefully when you got that break for telling on me you came out and you did the right thing and you're doing good now like I said I don't hold grudges shit happens some people ain't built for jail I'm not mad if it was a situation and you know you're you're looking at a assload of time and that's

what scared people into doing with it I'm not mad at you man it is what it is. I did my time but a motherfucker can't judge somebody if they didn't have that shoe on their foot and they weren't looking at that man. You know it is what it is you know. Here's what

kills me. How much time total did you do? All the charge of your charges? Everything in all I did 1129. I did 60 days, 90 days. This is county time. I did I did 60 days, 90 days, 9 months.

11, 29, 38 months, and then just 54 months. So right at nine years. Nine years? What kills me is how many times you got on a bond? Like in the feds, like, you're just not getting out on bond. Like if you go, like, you might, if you were the first time you got arrested, they, they would probably let you, like, if it wasn't a serious charge, but your, all your stuff was pretty serious, were serious charges. Yeah, I didn't have, listen, okay, so. But the state, they'll let you out.

And the state, depending upon the count. County, Pascoe County used to be sweet, used to be able to get out on bond, as long as you were bonded out, not ROR, not none of that release on own recognizant shit, all right? Because then when you go back in front of the judge and advisories, they say you were on RRR, we're pulling your bond on that ROR. Once they pull that bond on RR, now you can't get that bond back and get an amount on that bond. It's a zero bond until you go in front of the judge for these charges, plus that charge. Well, now, when you get re-arrested while you're out on bond, they're pulling your bond on your original charge.

So, I actually duped the system one time. I had got arrested for driving on suspended habitual to possessing of a controlled substance. I had two different kinds of, I had oxycodones and hydromorphone, which is dilaudits in my pocket when I got arrested. And I got arrested and boned out. Well, then, no, no, no, I'm lying. I'm lying. Hold on. Let me back up.

I got, I had a driving on suspended a bitch while I was on a bond for. Okay? Then I get into an argument with this fucking bitch going down the street. Her boyfriend's yelling at my homeboy in the front seat. I'm sitting in the back with my girlfriend. And, uh, I got a broken leg. I had wrecked my motorcycle and shit and broke my leg. Actually, my friend's motorcycle, but that's irrelevant.

Um, I'm, I roll the window down and I'm trying to tell the dude pull over. I'm going to beat your ass with this broken, with the broken leg, bitch. I'm going to beat you with this crutch. Fuck boy. over. I'm gonna break your neck. So they wouldn't pull over. I don't know why. So, of course, my dumb ass stands up with a broken leg, half cast on my leg, pulls my pants down to my ankles and throws the whole fruit basket out the window at this dude, right? So I moon this person. And you know how Chrysler 300 or a lot of cars, the window only go down and

they'll be like this much window sticking up? Right. I had my pants so far down and pushed my ass so far out the window that I fill all my shit and slap on the recoil. Okay. So I moon this lady and her husband. All right. This is not good right here. This is bad. So this is when I had the hydromorphone. Bro, that could be like a sex charge. It was. Watch this. So listen. So I got the hydromorphone, the laudence, and I got the oxycodone 30s, the blues, and my pocket. Bottles fucking so deteriorated. Their label has been in and out and opened up so many times. And putting all the new pills and shooting all the old you know it's fucked so boom i fucking and that's done just so that if you get caught you can say i have a prescription they're

in the bottle even though you've been buying them it's been worn out you know i can't help that you know what i'm saying it's like your wife's getting worn out right now well we're getting your arrest of me officer fuck you you know so i turn around and i dump the cat the the pills in my cast the dude in the front seat that i'm sticking up for this whole time mooning this bitch Showing her the goat, okay? Has a kid in the back seat, bro. Boom, they pull us. I'm dumping the pills down my cast,

throwing the bottle on the floor. I tell my dog, JJ, I threw the bottle on the floor, but it's empty. Don't worry about it. I got him in my cast. Bro, I don't give a fuck. It's all good, bro. Don't worry about it.

Boom. They come up. They pull a dude out the car. They pull my girlfriend out of the car. They pull him out of the car. They leave me back there. Well, that's because the lady and the boyfriend told the cops that the guy on the passenger side in the back.

just showed us his old fruit basket, you know what I mean? Right. So next thing you know, they're fucking putting me in cuffs, telling me that my friend told on me about everything. I'm telling me, I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't move nobody. Blah, blah, blah, right? Well, now the cop comes back and he shows me the written statement

that Jesse Smith wrote on me, okay? This little fucking weasel, okay? Here I am helping him make money. taking people to the doctor with him so he can make some money too because I'm already you know okay I'm straight so I'm helping this little cock sucker out and he tells on me I wrote a statement on me and I see it with my own eyes the cop shows me which is usually a no-no the cop usually don't show you he showed me so the bad thing is is an eye for an eye okay so the kid had just went to the pharmacy

and got two scripts from two different people He had probably about 165 pills on him. He had 80 blues, and he had 80 dilaudits, and he had some Xanax. So he dumps him off in his shoe when we're getting pulled over. Well, you just told on me, you wrote a statement on me. The cop showed me. This isn't the cop playing good, cop, bad cop. Yeah, I see the statement.

I see the statement. So guess what? Why don't you go search that little faggot motherfucker that just wrote that statement fucking you faggot-ass copper goes over there hey buddy take off your shoe dumps out the Pez de Spencer you know

he got wrapped up with two trafficking charges you know what I'm saying now he's running around telling everybody how I told on him and I ratted him out and this that and the other thing so now his brother wants to fight me he wants to fight me but they'll never meet me anywhere I told him whatever you want to do you know where I live

you know I get my This is to this day. No, not anymore. It's killer scene. Now I showed his brother the statement. The statement that he wrote because I got my discovery. This was before I went back to prison the second time. I tell his brother, look, bro, you want to fight me, bro.

That's whatever. I'm down. I'll fight both y'all at the same time. But look, he told on me. And then I told on him. It's an eye for an eye, bitch. Right. So obviously his brother was cool with me after that.

What happened with the, what happened with the flash and the piece? So, back to that. Sorry, sometimes I bounce around a little bit. So, I get those charges for the pills, and they give me a lewd and lascivious acts on a minor under 16. So, I get a leuant lascivious ax on a minor, but they did drop it down to a disorderly conduct because there was no intent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't even know there was a kid in the back seat. And all I did was mooned.

I didn't go over there and play with my dick in front of it. I'm not a fucking scumbag. I got kids and I can't stand people that touch kids and all that. I was simply trying to piss this dude off enough to get him to pull over so I could bust his ass. That's all I was trying to do. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I get fucked up with an L&L charge. But like I said, you can look at my record.

It's dropped down to a disorderly conduct. So this is how I duped the system. That's what this all started from. I duped the system. So they take my bond, for getting new charges while out on bond. I got that driving on suspended habitual. I got prescriptions for these pills.

So I got to get my doctor to give me a note or letter saying that I have a prescription for these two pills. Right. I do that. Now I got to get this disorderly conduct drop. It's a misdemeanor. So I'm allowed to plea out to that. Now I only have one bond back, right? One charge back.

So I did seven. something months in jail fighting this shit and i get out bond again because my one charge was only there now you know what i mean but yeah they they um they started taking your bond now once you accumulate a couple charges they they take it right away you know and again just so everybody knows not no chomo not no pedophile i don't touch kids it was a simple ha ha i mooned you yeah people don't here's the problem is that people don't don't, well, I'm saying, people don't realize people think, oh, you've got a sex chart. Wait a minute. You're saying, you can be, you can moon somebody and they'll say, oh, that's a

sex charge. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, don't get fucking crazy, okay? Read the black and white, dick sucker. Right. Well, I mean, that's what you got to do. Well, I'm not even charging in, I'm not talking about this. Obviously, I know what happened. It's just silly. But people will, guys will do stupid or silly things, even just fucking around with each other. Do you know? And get fucked up for no reason. And then they have to. Okay, so look, this is how my lawyer got the charges drop. I was going to say bring that up and show how the system can literally put a charge on you. Oh, I've seen guys that were charged with shit for...

So, with that being said, my lawyer goes into the state's attorney's office. Bro, I didn't have to give him no money or nothing. This is like a friend of the family. Oh, Keith Hammond, great dude. Goes in, and he basically has a circle of people that he, you know, the district attorney, state's attorney that he's talking to and he's like listen this man mooned somebody pull his pants down showed him his ass ha ha ha you you you you you me and you have all moon somebody in our life right it's a ha ha kiss my ass it was nothing to do with the child yeah so they dropped it down

Well, here's the thing, too. Like, in that case, it's like, do you really want to go to trial? Because half the people on the trial have done this or in the jury, they're never going to convict them. No. But the cops will actually try and get you to plead guilty to it. Like, you're seriously going to try and get me to plead guilty? And the bad thing about it is, I didn't even get to the very bad part. I just got released from prison like a fucking year and a half ago.

Guess what? Prison released reoffender. Sex charge, first degree felony. Oh, life. So, I mean, the severity of what it sounded like and what it really was could have fucked me up if it would have been what they were saying it was, but it wasn't.

Right. I moon somebody. Well, listen to this. I got just real quick and we can wrap it up. I knew a guy in prison who was dating a chick when he was, like they started date when they're like 15 years old, right? Well, she was like, I think she was 15 and he was, let's say, she's 15, he's 16.

No big deal. you know, typically a year or two at that age between the person you're dating. Right, right. She's 15, he's 16. Obviously, cell phones are out. You know, they start having sex.

They dated for like two years in high school. That's a long fucking time in high school. They're both almost adults now. Right. Well, they're taking pictures. They take pictures of each other having sex. He has pictures of her blowing him,

pictures of her tits. She has pictures of him, all kinds of stuff on their phones, right? They sex each other pictures. Suddenly he turns eight. They're like 18 or 19, I think. And he finds out she fucks one of his buddies. So she, he gets, just like I would at 19 years old, I'd be fucking furious.

Hot-headed, ready to bus somebody. Absolutely. So what does he do? He takes some of the raunchiest photos of her. And post them everywhere. And start shooting them to all of her friends. And everybody they know from high school. So, guess that he got jammed up.

He did seven years. He went to trial, he went to trial, because he was. He was so sure he was like, I haven't done anything wrong. I mean, I should have done it, but you guys are trying to get me. They were saying, look, plead guilty to a sex charge, registered. He's like, are you out of your fucking mind? This is a kid. The lawyers, they're all like, look, you got a problem here.

He said, I'm not going to do that. He goes to trial. He loses. He gets seven years. I watched him. I knew him for about five years. They called him Harry Potter because that's what he looked like Harry Potter. Hey, listen, you know how many Harry Potter's I've seen in jail?

That's crazy. Somebody's always a fucking Harry Potter. And he played... Little faggots. He played, um... He played a ping pong for fucking... I watched him for five years, play ping pong. Bop, that's how he did his time.

And he was a beast. Oh, he was amazing. He liked playing with little balls. Just kidding. See how mean? See how mean? I'm just kidding, y'all. But yeah, so yeah, he left.

Yeah, but yeah, same thing. Like, anything that you think you'd do, anybody would do just being a dickhead and you, his fucking life is irrevocably fucking just... Yeah, because, listen, I had a guy, okay? he was unforgiven He was in prison with me What does that mean? Unforgiven is a prison gang

White power Something Most of them are soft And I'll tell him that to their face At any rate I was in prison with a dude But really what it is Is they're scared

And they hide behind Their little fucking shit Because they won't say The end bomb in front of the first Black person, White person Brown person, Yellow person or nothing and they're soft as fuck

and most of them are fucking punk so that's how it really goes and if you don't like it come see me at any rate this dude had got a sex charge he was in a bar public place drinking

chicken there drinking had a fake ID gets wrapped up for getting a blowjob from this hoe and ends up getting him in trouble

and she turned around and went to the state and said that he didn't know I had a fake ID, blah, blah, blah, this is that the other thing. And guess what? The dude did 15 years about that shit. And the state's attorney and the judge in trial said, negligence is not accepted in the state of Florida

when it comes to this type of charge. And that motherfucker did 15 years about that pussy asshole with a fake ID. I'd have killed that bitch. I'd have killed that bitch. perfect cut right there. Absolutely. Let's go ahead and go. All right, if you like the video, you don't do any of this, do you?

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