Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - Widowed Mother Steals $30M From Her Son | Family Fraud

Episode Date: September 2, 2023

Widowed Mother Steals $30M From Her Son | Family Fraud

So dad, he had a trust, and basically mother didn't like the terms of it. In many other families, when money is involved, people start cutting each other's throats. If the court orders me to give this money back, I will do so. Again, this attorney went from a $150,000 town home prior to knowing mom to a million-a-half-dollar mansion. showing in an unsigned means that dad never signed the trust. And that trust, the 2013 trust, made mom's sole trustee. So without dad's signature, what does mom have? She has nothing.

And in the last 10 years, including a couple years of the worst market ever, she not just doubled, not tripled, not quadrupled, not quintupled. She's six times. Yeah. Yeah, that's- In our 70s. In our 70s with no training. The picture on the right is my father's alleged signature on the trust, again, dated the same day, August 5th, 2013. Hey, this is Matt Cox, and I am here with John Smith.

That's his real name. and we're going to be talking about family fraud also the name of of john smith's book it's an interesting story i've spoken with him for hours about the story uh we first started talking a few weeks ago and essentially it's the the it's it's the dispute or or as john's you know the John puts it. Basically, it's the theft of a $30 million inheritance and the IRS, IRS is unwillingness to look into it or the authority's unwillingness to look into it. And it's, it's an interesting story. And so we're going to get into it. So check it out. Do you live in Orlando? You came over here from Orlando. And we talked a few weeks ago. You approached me a few weeks ago. And you've got a,

There was a video online where you break it all down. And so I watched a portion of that video. Then we ended up talking on the phone. And then that's how we ended up getting here. And so the crux of the story real quick, just to let people know, like, what they're getting into is that your father had an estate worth roughly, according to your mother, roughly $30 million. Correct. She told you that it was worth $30 million. Yes.

Then your father's will suddenly changed. His trust. Sorry, his trust changed a few weeks before his death. 16 days before he died. Right. So it changed unexpectedly. And your mother suddenly valued the estate to the IRS, $8 million. And then essentially made a bunch of changes to the trust and has since, I mean, this is a

A very choppy version of the story. And basically there's been a dispute between you and your mom. Initially, it was you, your mom, and your whole family. My entire family. Family, the entire family. And then essentially your mom saying, look, this whole estate's $8 million and it's all mine. And she's, but she's somehow, her name managed to spend, what, 14, 15 million? It's a miracle.

Right. And she still has $10 or $11 million. It's another miracle. Right. So has a ton of money. left. So obviously the estate was never worth the $8 million. She told the IRS. It was always worth at least $30, roughly the $30 million that she had always said it was worth. And then, but there have been these really, I don't hate to say, comical. It's almost like

it could be like a, like a movie, like a comical movie. Like it could be a satiric kind of a movie just in. It would make a great documentary. I was, I was, I was, was going to say like an like an adam samler movie but where basically it's it's it's outrageous the kinds of i mean it's horrible from your perspective i understand and i'm sorry to make a lot of but it's it's outrageous the amount of kind of corruption that appears to be in all of these transactions that go back and forth and the problem is that you're trying to get relief through the courts which are not really set up to help anybody, especially at the expense or to go against a member of the court, you know, like the other lawyer. So if a lawyer says, if a lawyer lies, yeah, if a lawyer lies about

something. Right. So if a lawyer lies about something and says, this is the way it is, your honor, the judge typically says, okay, well, this is a, this is a member of the court. So we're going to go with his opinion, regardless of the fact that you're going, yeah, but your honor. I have this proof and this proof and this proof. Yeah, I know, but this lawyer just said that's not true and to disregard that. And so the courts have essentially are disregarding all of the proof and you're not getting any, you haven't gotten any help from the courts. You're not getting any help from law enforcement. You're not getting any help from the IRS, even though it's over, even though the evidence appears to be overwhelming in your defense. So with that said,

that's essentially what we're going to get into. Right. But what I would like to do is, kind of start at the beginning, which is, where were you born? I was born in Iowa, all the places, Bettendorf, Iowa. Right. And when I was an infant, my, you know, my parents were high school sweethearts, et cetera. So it wasn't like my father divorced my original mother and married a trophy wife. And that trophy wife stole his 30 million. And first marriage for both, first and only, they were married 47 years.

So I grew up outside Chicago. Okay. You know, and I was just a normal kid, although I couldn't fit in high school. The high school I went to is called Bennett Academy. It's in Lyle. Do you know Chicago at all? No. So it's in a western suburb.

It's a Jesuit high school. You had to wear a uniform. It was the kind of high school you have to take an entrance exam to. get into. Right. And I got almost a hundred. So my parents are like, oh, smart kid, he won't have any trouble. But then I didn't understand the dynamic of being a student. The dynamic of being a student is, it's not cool to ask questions. It's not cool to try and learn, right? I was totally, and then, you know, my mother was dressing me. And so, like, one day, I wore this, red and white checkerboard shirt and all the kids were like, hey, farmer John. And, you know,

so it's a, it's a tough time being 14, 15. You just want kids to like you. And I didn't fit in. So what happened, and I learned later through counseling, I was trying to get attention. And I couldn't get any positive attention. Right. So I sought negative attention. And what can a good, smart kid do he can fail right you get a lot of negative attention so i started flunking all my classes my parents couldn't figure it out so my sophomore year i was in danger of having to repeat my entire year so they sent me to a school for underachievers in connecticut and there they teach very slowly right but i was able to get a's and b's during not trying at all not trying at all not trying at all but they made you study

and they teach you so slowly but I didn't want to go back the kids there smoked and then you know six months later I started smoking you know kids drank kids would talk about doing acid I didn't know what that was you know

they're going to pour acid on their hands you know wouldn't that hurt so that summer in the Chicago Tribune there was a Chicago magazine article about this really cool military high school where you live there outside Milwaukee. And so I, uh, my parents took me up for a, uh, you know, fam trip, familiarization trip. Right. And that's where I decided to

finish my high school. So, so military school. And military school. Look, uh, my high school, St. John's Military Academy, um, is in Delphibre, Wisconsin. The campus is cool. Maybe you can, uh, flash up, uh, some stills of the campus. It looks like a gothic castle. All the built, maybe gothic's the wrong word, but all the buildings are, uh, it's like a fortress. Right. And it's a really cool campus. From a distance, the military looks really cool. Uh, when you're there, you know, it was kids your own age, you know, and this was the lesson is that kids your own age had power over you. And you could either rebel, but that didn't last long. You know, you'd have to eat square corners, you know, you know, plates here, lift, you know, it's hard to do with this Mike, but,

you know, up this, and you'd walk square corners. And it's part of the way they, as a kid, they make you more or less worthless. And then they build you up. And so, you know, after the first four months it's yes sir no sir even to your parents and so it and again they teach you to study they make you study and there's punishment if you don't study so it's easy to get good grades but that wean me uh i learned that i like making decisions and so i didn't want to go back you know i didn't want to go into the military and so i went uh that summer i went to the University of Iowa. Now, why Iowa? It's a pretty campus. Right. And the University of Iowa at the time, here's a little use of trivia for you. I like to read. I think we both like to read. Right.

And have you ever read the book First Blood? The Rambo. That Rambo movie? Rambo, right. No. I've never read the book, but it's all the movie. All right. So the book is written by a guy named David Morel. M-O-R-R-E-L-L. And he lived in Iowa City. Okay. And so first, First Blood was his Rambo book, or Rambo series. But then he also wrote Brotherhood of the Rose Fraternity of the Stone. Both were made in the miniseries in the 1980s. I read Brotherhood of the Road, no, Fraternity of the Stone. And at the end of it, it says, David Morrell lives in Iowa City. So, I was like, I wonder if he's

in their directory. He was. Right. Picked up phone, called him. He talked to me. Right. It was the coolest thing. So, I mean, but at the universe of Iowa, phone calls to David Morales side, I,

they had a shortage of dorm rooms. So they piled, for the fall semester, they piled like 20 kids on every every the residence halls was a high rise in Iowa City

so it was like 20 floors or 10 floors whatever and on every floor there was a lounge so they piled like 10 bunk beds

in the lounge and then that's where I spent my freshman year and the problem was you know one light switch 20 kids

so freshmen come in drunk at two in the morning, flip on the light switch. It was impossible to get any sleep, and I started missing classes. So it became, go to class, get a D, or don't go to class, get a D. Right. So I started not going to class. I flunked out. Right. So flash forward to December, you know, growing up, my father had it, he had a little bit of the crazy in him. You didn't want to get him mad. Right. His whole face would get mad. I mean, his whole face would get red and he just I I remember my mother growing up said if your father

ever strikes you you let him win and I was like no problem he's going to win anyways he's bigger than me um so I just remember being 18 like cringing what am I going to tell dad what what logical reason could I tell him that I flunked out of the University of Iowa school he paid for right and so i came home and uh ironically he had received word that his company was transferring him to the philippines so he wasn't that pissed he was like uh okay well you got two choice you can either go out on your own or join the military and i was like well i just spent two years at a military high school don't want to do that if i go out on my own where should i move to and he goes, how about Orlando?

And to be 18, and he said, you know, get a job at Disney World. So to be 18 on your own, Disney World, I mean, it was checking a lot of boxes. Right. So that's what I did. Okay. Move down and, you know, my whole life, I've always been an incredibly hard worker. You know, my parents encouraged that when I was a kid. And I've had, you know, people I look up to this day.

they have a great work ethic. And so I got one job at Disney World as a busboy, and then I got another job at a hotel nearby as a bus boy, and I would work 80 hours a week, sometimes 90, didn't have a car, didn't have a girlfriend, I worked. And here's the crazy thing. And I can't believe I did this, but I did it. I never got hit.

So I lived in this apartment complex that's not there anymore. Lake Vista Village. It was on one side of Lake Point of Vista. So everyone that lives in Orlando, Lake Vista Village right across from Disney Village. Well, I could either get to Disney Village by riding my bicycle down Apopka V Island Road and be exposed to traffic that's going to kill me at 50 miles an hour. Right. Or I could jaywalk across I-4, and that's what I did. Right. in the daytime, and then at night. So imagine running across the eastbound lanes, standing in the median.

There's what, four lanes going both ways? Three lanes going one way, three lanes going one way. Three lanes go. At 70 miles an hour? Yeah, it'd be fine. Yeah, so I never got hit. Right. The craziest thing was doing it.

No shit. We would know. You'd be somebody, I'd be talking to somebody else right now. Yeah. At 70 miles an hour? But I rationalized. that I was like, you know, 20 minutes at 50 miles an hour, I'm still dead, 20 seconds at 70 miles an hour, I'll take the 20 seconds, less risk.

You know, so I worked at Disney a couple years, and then in the early 90s, I started a house cleaning business, and I was the business. Yeah. You know, so, you know, I, in my whole life, I've never been arrested. I've always worked. But, you know, on paper, I'm a college dropout. Right. For the last 20 years, I've had a business.

You can Google it. We're on Shark Tank. It's called Storm Stoppers. So when you, let me talk about the Shark Tank thing. Yep. Sorry. So you were doing the, you were running a house claiming business. Did you have any employees?

No employees. And one day I got tired of selling a service because then when you sell a service, you got to go and perform it. And I was the service. But it taught me to live frugally on nothing. Right. But at that point, when did you jump to, you know, storm stoppers? So there was a business in the intervening time.

One day in the house cleaning days, I looked over at a car next to me in traffic. And it was probably a gator, gator, seminal, you know, Florida gator, seminal. And it had these car flags on the windows. and it had the antenna topper and magnets, you know, like rah-wrots, football season. But I noticed the wheels were blank. And so I was like, you know, if you take, I don't know, a piece of plastic and you put a college logo on it and then you find a way to attach the plastic to the wheel, you'd have a business.

So I said about inventing. I didn't have a background, but I just had this, I'm tired of selling a service. I want to sell a product because the vision is you sell a product, you deliver the product you're done yeah um and so i invented a product called clever covers so was made of plastic and it was used a faster known as dual lock it's made by 3m and i had uh to prove that it would stay on a wheel on a on a highway speeds i took a set out to disney's racetrack at the time they had the richard petty driving experience yeah i don't know if you're a naskar fan no my dad did it my dad went did he drive yeah he got to drive uh you know they let you like with an instructor or something

did you go out there with him no i didn't uh you know it was for like a birthday present given to him by my sister that it's a it's a really cool and my rationale was and then if it could stay on those if it can stay on the driving on the track at 140 miles an hour it'll stay on an 80 and i just lucked out it was kind of a balzy request because i was like you guys got to warm up the cars anyway. So could I put a set on and you warm up the cars? And the day I went out there, the owner of the Richard Petty Driving Experience, whose name escapes me, happened to be there and maybe liked me and liked my Hootspa. And said, okay. The only thing he said was no pictures. Because at the time they had a Daler and Hart number three race car and they didn't want. Yeah, yeah. Like they

were promoting it, right? Right. And thankfully, I didn't take any more pictures after he said no pictures. I had taken some pictures beforehand to prove I was there. Right. But when he said no pictures, you stopped. From that point on, it was clear, no pictures afterwards, and I wasn't going to argue. Right. Yeah. So they stayed on. Did about eight, 10 laps. And I got the pictures to prove it. So for the next eight years, I sold those wheel covers. How did that end up shark tank? Well, so in the fall of 2004. Just after you did the retro petty thing or when you were just thinking about it? The Richard Petty thing was like in 2000. No, it was in 96. Okay. And so for eight years, I sold that product. Oh, okay. You know, I had a bunch of collegiate licenses

that my father had helped me get. Um, because it was a cap. intensive business. I didn't have any money. Look, until stormstoppers, I never made any, I never made any money. Right. I mean, I, I'm used to living on 20,000 a year. Right. That's paying my own rent, um, you know, my own gas, et cetera. I've struggled my whole life. Um, until stormstoppers. So in the fall of 04, um, we had four hurricanes hit the state. Uh, Charlie was the first one. I don't know if you were living in... Yeah.

I live in Tampa, Florida. Do you remember Hurricane Charlie? And this was when, 08? No, 2004. So it was like Friday the 13th, August 13th. I'd taken off by then. I was on the run by then. But yeah, I do remember.

I mean, you know, I've been lived in Florida most of my life. There's always hurricanes every year or two. Yeah, so Charlie was a cat four hurricane. It came ashore in Pantagorda. And then it traversed the state. I remember it knocked out power in Orlando for a week. It uprooted tree. I mean, they had these big trees,

and you would see that the grass under them would peel back and the tree would fall over, leaving this, you know, I don't know, six-by-six hulk of grass. So when that hurricane was approaching, everyone was scrambling, and I was in this business that happened to use corrugated plastic and a 3M faster that most people are going to think is Velcro. Right.

And you couldn't get plywood. they were they were like on the local TV station saying oh the local Home Depot just got a truckload and it would sell it in 10 minutes right so myself and my then girlfriend uh thought what the hell let's use what we have right and it worked i mean it worked it was thin corrugative plastic eighth inch stick which uh you would see as a real estate sign yeah they called it uh corrugated plastic same stuff as real estate it was flimsy you know

you cut with the scissors etc but it worked and then another storm was approaching and I approached a local TV station and said hey I got this plywood alternative

and even though I don't stockpile pallets and pallets of it because I'm a little guy plastic companies all over the state have pallets of this stuff you ought to be directing your your viewers to go buy it when they interviewed me on my on my step on my house and said wow this plot and they used the brand that that we are plywood alternative and that kind of created a huge industry and it's kind of grown from there so uh shark tank was 2014 so

10 years after created inventing storm stoppers uh they called you you you called No, for years I had been trying to get on. So to get on Shark Tank, now it's a little bit different. Now they're in their season 14. I'm in season six. And now you'll hear about entrepreneurs where they actually, hello, is this Joe Blow? Yes, this is selling stuff from Shark Tank. We'd like you to come. I mean, how can you be so lucky is to be recruited, right? But I had to film a video and they liked my video. And then, I caught a really lucky break. Right. What was that? Well, one of my ideas to get on Shark Tank was I was going to hire a former quarterback to throw footballs at my stormstoppers on the set. You know.

Okay. And so I joined a bunch of retired NFL players associations. And anyone can join them. Right. And, you know, I reached. out to like Brett Fav, you know, he wanted a private jet and, you know, I don't know, a 20 grand fee. And I was like, if I had that, why would I go on Shark Tank? You know, Donovan McNabb. Probably like 40 or 50, second tier quarterbacks. Good. Name brand, you know, but I mean,

Brett was probably the most elite, but guys that I thought I could get. And in doing that, I made contact with the lady named Karen Conrad, and she was the president of the Kansas City Chief's NFL Retired Players Association. Okay. And so I had cultivated this relationship with her, and she liked me, I think. And one day, sometime in the fall of 2013, she said, long story short, I have the cell number. of one of the Shark Tank producers. And I'll text it to you. So I had this number for like three months.

And I knew I could only call him once. Right. And make a pitch. And I knew he wouldn't answer. And so I was driving. I was working in Louisiana. I'll never forget. I was so nervous.

At the time, I had my little Bluetooth around my ear. And I set it in my cup holder in my rental vehicle that was full of water. That's how nervous I was about calling this guy. Because I knew, you know, it was like the money shot in pool. Right. I got one shot. And like I thought, about a minute later, the phone rings. And it's his assistant saying, so-and-so likes you and wants you to shoot a video.

And it kind of grew from there. So had Karen Conrad from the Kansas City Chiefs not giving me my lucky break, I would have never gotten on Shark Tank. Nice. Did you get any money? They make any offer or no? I didn't even get an offer. They all praise storm stoppers, but I spoke to Lori for the longest time, and she kept saying she could get us into Home Depot.

And I kept saying that'd be a mistake. And she was like, why? No one ever says that's a mistake. You know, big box stores, they make entrepreneurs sign this contract that says guaranteed sale. And the way it works is, sure, they'll buy a huge amount. But the guaranteed sale says, whatever they don't sell after three or six months, you have to buy back. right i was like that's screwy they buy it they own it and then the other thing that's really screwy about the big box stores is they they make a big stink about oh you're you're in home

depot but then they slow pay you right so by this big order that you have to then finance and they pay you in 90 days 120 days and they have all these restrictive language and their contract i'm like screw that yeah i i had heard that about walmart that walmart will practically bankrupt you slowly putting putting off like they don't pay you for like 90 days and they're a billion-dollar company if anyone has the money to pay you then right so you have to go out and you have to finance you know whatever several million dollars were the products to fund all their stores and then and if and then they have to sell that and then if they if they decide to put your product in a shitty area of the store you don't get the sales and then you're stuck with okay

well i didn't get any sales but you also stuck me in the back far corner you didn't put up my you know you didn't you didn't you didn't advertise it you didn't do some of the things you were going to do and you can't fight walmart and then they send you half the money that you should have gotten and you now have financed these you've got this massive payment and yeah i knew a guy that uh well i knew a guy that was uh well i knew a guy that was uh providing uh t-shirts for for Walmart for something and he said he was just he said i was just sick to my stomach every single every you know every every quarter it was it was horrible and then he said finally one day something happened and the check came in for almost nothing and he went he had to go bankrupt he's like like i thought he said what i had always prayed for was to get into walmart i then got in he's like he didn't ruin my business it just destroyed him well and the thing is my pitch to the sharks was look we sell direct it's kind of worked out for amazon right it's worked out for dell computer right but the sharks i think were like Like, you know, when they get a big order, and they're busy.

And whenever you hear this, the sharks invest their own money, blah, blah, blah. Here's where that comes from, in my opinion. So each episode, at first, there's two taping weeks. There's one like in June and then one in September. So Shark Tank flies entrepreneurs out in June and September. So there's maybe 10 days, and it's a typical day we'll see anywhere from four to seven entrepreneurs. Well, the sharks get paid per episode. So let's say they get paid 50 grand an episode.

And let's say a given day, they have a minimum of three to four episodes and a max of, say, six, right? So a minimum three episodes times 50 grand as their fee. 150 grand is their kitty that day, up to a max to say 300. So when it's like, the sharks invest their own money, they're getting paid 200 grand that day. Right. Right. So let's say they make an offer for 80 grand. They're not out of anything.

It comes out of their fee in my opinion. So on July 18th, get excited. This is big. for the summer's biggest adventure. I think I just smurf my pants. That's a little too excited. Sorry. Smurfs.

Only date is July 18th. Uh, um, uh, so there's two tapings, uh, and, uh, also they test you. A lot of things, a lot of people don't know. To, to get flown out there, they, by the time I, I flew out there in early June of 2014. I'm season six. Now they're in season 14. And Storm Stoppers, if you Google it,

we're on the most re-aired episode in history. It's called the 100th episode. I don't know how, you know, as dad used to say, I'd rather be lucky than good. Yeah. Because the 100th episode, they sit around afterwards and they have a big cake. Anyone that, because, you know,

people don't know where a Stormstoppers is, We're first on the 100 episode, but that's the episode was Squatty Potty. So if you've ever seen Squatty Potty, you've missed us, you know, because their third, we're first. Right. Right. And the greatest thing was they chose us. You know, we may not have gotten an offer, but what a great honor. I can't.

And the sharks, although Mark Cuban was a bit of a jerk. But he is a bit of a jerk. Or a big jerk, right? that's his thing he was he look he praised stormstoppers you know i i have an iphone here right right and uh have you read anything about steve jobs have i read anything about yeah steve jobs was he a nice person no he was a horrible person yeah but are you buying he admitted he was a horrible right but you're buying an iphone you're not buying you know the sharps you're like oh i really liked the entrepreneur you know when you buy coke stock you're not buying the backstory

of the CEO, you're buying what the product does. I was going to say typically the problem is with people, especially nowadays, they want you to be sweet and nice and wonderful, but the truth is is that the guy that gets things done is typically not the nice, sweet,

wonderful, caring person. He's probably a narcissistic prick that pushes everybody that nobody really likes, but he's also the guy that gets things done. How dare you talk about Mark Cuban and call him narcissistic? But that's, you know, yeah. Or, listen, Steve Jobs, like, I don't know if you, I forget the name of the guy's names, like Isaac.

Yeah, Walter Isaacson. Is that the guy? Yeah, yeah. You know, it's about this stick. It is, yeah. I read it in prison. Yeah. Listen, does not paint him.

Did you like it? I thought it was great. I mean, I thought it was too long and I thought it was, there were, it was just, but he was also an amazing person and deserve that, that much coverage. But, and look, what was great about Steve Jobs was toward the end of his life when he, convinced him he wanted him to write his book and he he had a conversation with him he's like look you're not micromanaging this like if i write it like any brutal things that people say it's going to be what it is and he was like i'm totally okay with that and so mark so i mean mark sorry but so steve jobs was okay with being he he knew i'm a prick he's he was okay with

being presented that way so when i read that book and people said nasty things and he also had a ton of people that said amazing things about him and he was clearly an amazing person you know even though it always to this day will bother me that he didn't take a lot of showers when he was you know uh you see pictures of his house that had no furniture yeah he was he was you know eccentric yeah listen but those all of those guys are you know the all of them end up being you know well bill bill gates isn't he bill gates is a job or isn't they're all fucking jerk offs are you kidding me steve Steve Job? I mean, I mean,

Bill Gates. Bill Gates is a horrible human being. I would disagree. I would. Why? I remember my father. My father's company was called Anderson Consulting. And he used to tell stories of they would do a consulting project with Microsoft.

And so dad was in the room with Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer. Steve Balmer, that name may not be familiar to. you. He was Bill Gates, more or less right-hand man. It's kind of like at Google, I hope I'm pronouncing this correctly, Google, the CEO now is a guy named Eric Schmidt. The founders are Larry and Sergei. Sergei Bryn and Larry, whose last name escapes me. But back to dad, he would talk about, Steve Ballmer, he was the former or current owner of the, of the, of the, either I think it's the L.A. Clippers, the one he bought Donald Sterling. I don't know if you remember that name.

He was kind of like a racist NBA owner, and they kicked him out. And he owned a ton of real estate in New York and slums. Right. And he was just kind of an awful person. Steve Ballmer bought his share. I think it's the Clippers. It might, it's the Clippers because Phil Knight, no, no, no, no. another tech person bought the Portland Trailblazers.

And anyways, dad would talk about being in a room with Bill Gates and Steve Balmer. And he would be like, you know, Bill had this kind of whiny voice. And Steve Bomber was the real decision maker. He was like, you know, Bill would start whining about something. I mean, this dad's pair, I never met Bill Gates. Right. And then Steve Bomber would be like, look, here's what we're going to do.

And Steve Ballmer's a big, authoritative guy. He's bald. In that regard, he's like my mom's main attorney, Kenny Kemp. But anyways, dad would tell stories. And so I wouldn't shortchange Bill Gates. Dad was always really kind of complimentary of the two of them. To build a company like that, you can't be ruthless like Steve Jobs. I think that's what it takes to build a company like that is probably being ruthless.

I mean, Bill Gates was ruthless. He would buy out competitors. He would threaten small vendors that he wanted a piece of everything that they sold. Like he had a bunch of tactics that he performed that were unethical. You know, there was lots of things that he did going in and getting the... Well, the greatest thing he did. What? Microsoft stealing the operating system.

They didn't steal it. They, he was just strategic. Yeah. So I mean, so to say like, just because you're polite and friendly in person doesn't mean that you're not,

you know, Bill Gates at least- Screwing people on the side, you know? No, Microsoft takes, look, my sister, my youngest sister Casey

works or worked at Microsoft. Microsoft takes care of their staff, or maybe takes care of executives like Casey. So I would say that unless we know particulars, Steve Jobs had a reputation, but anything written about Bill Gates and Steve Balmer does not portray them in a negative light. Steve Jobs, on the other hand, you and I both read the book. It was mean to waiters. Or maybe Bill Gates is just got a easier or got a heavier thumb on what his, on the censors, on the censors, and how he's, how he is portrayed in the media.

If you go into Russia right now, 90% of the citizens will tell you Putin's a wonderful human being. Well, yes, you get that reputation when you're in 100% control of the media. like so I'm sure so but you know it doesn't matter we don't have to all agree you know maybe maybe he's a wonderful person um so what so anyway so what's next yeah yeah so so storm we were last on storm stoppers and shark tank no I didn't get an offer I spoke to Lori for long's time but the coolest thing was when I walked out and I didn't see this till it actually aired She turns to Robert and she goes, it's a really smart product.

And Robert goes, I'm with you, Lori. And then they pan over to Mark Cuban, who didn't like me. You know, he met me, knew me an hour, and he had his mind made up. You know, it's funny. It's funny how many people, it's crucial to them that the person that they're working with, they like. It really, and that always amazes me. Like, to me, I don't care if I hate your guts. I don't care if you hate my guts.

If you can get it done, then that's it. I'll put my pride aside. You know what I'm saying? But there are so many people that like, oh, no, no. Well, I don't like the way he talked to me. Or I don't like that. Like, so what? He's got this.

He can do this. He's good at it. He can get this. He can actually execute it. Like, I don't have to like this fucking guy. We're not going to dinner. We're not friends. I don't mean you.

I just mean, in general. anybody in general but so many people nowadays like oh well he needs to be a nice person and he needs to do this he needs to give the right charities and we need to have the same we need to have the same values and we what what delusional world are you looking are you living in like that's that's that's just because society's so fucking soft now well I think something that that my father understood for that when I hire someone or someone I want to do business with, I have to be able to trust them. Being able to trust, you know what the best agreement is?

A handshake, right. Right. Looking in someone's eyes, so often if you can't, you know, like when I hire contractors, do I care if they're licensed by this city or state? No. I care they show up on time. I care they do good work. But if someone does a shitty job at my house or a business and their license, the license doesn't protect me.

Right. So their work, if they were a referral, that counts more to me than most people. Not that I would ever admit to hiring unlicensed people or tech. Technically, you know, in the stormstopper realm, whenever you buy plywood at Home Depot, you're required to get a permit. But every county in Florida, they don't enforce it, right?

If you change your faucet, you're supposed to get a permit. If you change your toilet, you're supposed to get a, get a, you know, nobody's doing that. No way, you know. Okay, so, so your father. Yeah. Sorry. Good, go ahead.

I was going to say, so your father, So at what point in time are we right now? So my father died at the age of 72 in August 21st, 2013. Right. So this, he was a cigar smoker. He died of inoperable liver cancer. Okay. So he was diagnosed in February of 2013.

And that's from cigars? You know. Or you're just a contributing factor? You don't really know. Like, he smokes cigars his whole life. Myself, I don't smoke. I don't drink. Right.

Who know? You know, after the age of 70, you know, thing. One of the things that I find really interesting about you, Matt, I've read your book. I highly recommend anyone. wants a good read. I just finished it. Not to sound like I'm sucking up to you, but it's true.

Look, if I didn't like it, I wouldn't say I liked it. Right. And also, one thing that you don't explain the book is the title. The title, Shark in the Housing Pool, in my opinion,

came from a Businessweek article that you mentioned in the book. Right, right. But there's nothing like about Shark in the housing pool the title came from a business week article. I had to kind of figure that out. Well, you know, you have to give the reader some credit. You don't have to, I figured anybody who's reading it at that point would say,

oh, that's probably where you got the title from. Well, like my book, which when you flashed up, that picture with Mickey Mouse came from a Disney cruise. Okay. Right. And someone that read an early version of it said, you need to explain the picture. Right. Right. And so the first couple pages, I explain how did we get a family picture with dad with Mickey Mouse?

Right. And so, anyways, the, I'm off, off track. Your father died. He had, he died of an inoperable cancer or something. He died to cancer. And, um, and, uh, so. that's the cool thing about tape is you can back it up and go over all that you probably won't yeah yeah yeah all right listen I was gonna I was sitting here thinking to myself when you said my book

was good it was great I was thinking well I know Connor read it but I know Connor's never read anything I don't think Connor's ever watched an entire video if he wasn't editing it um but no yeah probably you were talking about or the we don't I don't explain you would talk to we talked about my book that I never explained the title and then you you you were explaining, I think it was leading into you explaining your, the title of your book. No, no, I wasn't doing that as a lead-in to the book. It just kind of happened. But back to, back to your book. I, I read it, uh, all last week. Um, it's, how many pages is it? Cause, like 330. Yeah. And the interesting thing to me about it was, you said you wrote it when you were in,

in prison. Right. So, um, the thought. What that went into it, and also the thing, I like your kind of, your hootspah in, you know, I bought a car at XYZ Ford, and it felt like if I Googled that, it would take me to, you know, wherever you bought the car. Right. The authenticity, look, I've been sued for defamation by. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. So I took my mother's attorney's lies. Right. and put him on a shirt verbatim. And he sued me, and that case is going to trial in like six weeks. So I took someone's lies, his exact words, and put him on a shirt. And I felt like you were taking a similar risk in putting someone's actual. And I've had people say that, right?

One. Just like, oh, you didn't have their permission to use their real name or, you know, to talk about. No, but what I did have was I had things that were in public record. And a lot of times, like if I say I bought this vehicle at a, it's a lot of kinds of people will say, man, you have, they'll really say, you got a great memory. But the truth is, I really had my discovery. So the government would say, Mr. Cox bought this vehicle, this paid $50,000 for this vehicle at, you know, whatever, you know, Charles Earnhardt Ford.

So now I, because I can't remember the date. Yeah, yeah. But in the book, like, they'll have like, usually I didn't bore people with the exact date. I'd say like in, you know, late April or early, you know, May, whatever. Sometimes I use the exact date if I was like a closing. Like on this day, on the 22nd of May, I closed on this, with, I closed on this house, borrowed this much money. Two days later, I borrowed this much money on the same house.

A week later, I bought. So I would do that. But I had those dates and those names, mostly not because I have good memory, but mostly because it was a part of my discovery in some form. And also, but the people's names that I used, those people had been interviewed by the FBI or the Secret Service, U.S. Marshals, or they'd been in newspaper articles. So a lot of that stuff I was pulling from public records or they had been listed on an indictment. So they were already out there. But my whole thing was, which is different than yours, is that you know, you're being sued because these people are trying to shut you down.

in my case i felt if someone sues me because i use their name then they now have to go in front of the court and say one you slandered my name and it and at the time and like i know people in prison right so i i can get legal work done very inexpensively so what my whole thing was i was like i'll just prepare a document provide all the proof and now all the things that you're saying he smeared my name i can say i got it from this article i got it from these three documents that where you talk to the u.s attorneys i got it from the indictment which you're listed on like and these are things that you said to me because you are a part of this fraud the people in my book that i've spoke bad about don't want to do that because they know what if matt provides all of these documents

now not only am i listed in a book i'm now in i'm now got a lawsuit in federal court where he's He's now showing all the actual documents that prove that I did help commit this fraud and it was involved with this fraud. Right now, it's just a name and a book. It doesn't really come up. I'm not that worried about it. And also, if they allege slander, they take this and it blows up. Absolutely.

And I could turn around. And any time there's a lawsuit filed, knowing me, I'll turn around. I'll hit up 10 different, you know, 10 different reporters and say, hey, by the the way, I'm being sued by this person about my book. It gives me an opportunity to get an article written. Now you're in the news, now you're going to end up in New Times Magazine or Rolling Stone or who knows what magazine, the Tampa Tribune, who knows what magazine might pick it up and write a 500 or a 1,500 word article about me being sued over this book, which only gives me more publicity. And now it puts you on the page two of the, you know, the St. Petersburg Times,

which is closed but um or you know the atlantic journal constitution now runs at how this guy's being sued because he said this person slandered him but there's all this evidence that shows he was a part of this major fraud and it talks about the book like there people aren't stupid what they do is they get that i wouldn't be surprised if five or six people haven't gone to some attorney yelled and said look this is what's happening i want to sue him the attorney looked at it and said okay listen here's what's going to happen here's what it's going to cost you to sue him Now, if you want to give me 15 or 25,000 to sue him, and in the end, he gets the lawsuit thrown out of court because he can provide all the documentation, and he didn't really slander you.

You can't prove that it cost you money or harmed you. So the issue is you're going to cost yourself $25,000 to maybe be more embarrassed about something that you actually did. Now, as opposed to, in your case, you're being sued because the lawyers are hoping. to get you in a position where they financially harmed you to such a degree that you drop all of these allegations and just go away and stop complaining. And that's what their, in my opinion, that's what their real goal is because you can show like, hey, you said this, which was a lie, and you lied to the court.

And here's how the, here's the proof. Here's the proof. And they're suing you anyway. So they're trying to get you to a position where they can get a judgment, where they can get favor with the court in the in that those proceedings to get a judgment against you or get you shut down in some way because the truth is I know over and over again many times if you're a lawyer you're an officer of the court and you show evidence to the court and then there's there's evidence that contradicts that the court's going to go with the lawyer so if the lawyer

spins it or twists it in such a way that he can get a good result from from them then he's going to do that. And on top of that, it cost him nothing to sue you. He's a fucking lawyer. Yeah. In my case, there's actually two lawsuits, and we should probably drill down. But first, I'd like to... Yeah, let's go back to your father.

Sorry. Let's go back to your father dying or you're passed away. Right. So, Dad died in 2013. Now, I've learned this in hindsight. I didn't know it at the time. So I'm 55. When he died, I was 45.

We're coming up on the 10-year anniversary. So he died in 13. What I learned since was in 1998, dad created a trust. Now, there's wills and there's trust. Do you know the difference? I had to learn. I didn't know.

I mean, I feel like I kind of know the difference. I mean, typically you have a will and it it kind of liquidates everything in the will and a trust is kind of like a living instrument that goes on, right? That is set up to do certain things that can continue. And that's my opinion.

A will is kind of finite. This is who gets, this, it determines who gets everything and then it's shut, it's done. Right. That to me is the difference, but I could be wrong. Here's what I've learned

and like you, I may be wrong. Will's is a vehicle to identify who your beneficiaries are. Here's my wife, here are my kids, here's all my assets, etc. The trust is really the vehicle

to dispose of your assets. So the will says, like my dad's will, is eight pages long and it's very non-specific. My wife, Mary Francis Smith, my five kids, I'm his only son,

John D. Smith, Jr., then I have a sister named Jennifer Smith, a sister named Kristen Smith. Of course, they have marital names, a sister named Karen Smith, and a sister named Casey Smith. So his will just identifies us kids, the wife, and it basically says, upon my death, sell my furniture, and follow the terms of my trust. The trust is the vehicle. And I was told back in 2018, long before I filed my 2018 lawsuit against my birth mother and I call my birth mother and this is a big distinction um anyone that's listening uh might have how dare you you sued your mother and look in reading your book mat your mother visited

you every two weeks for yeah it's for 13 years i mean that's a mother right and a mother goes to your wedding, et cetera. What my mother did was wait till my father was vulnerable and forge his signature on a new trust that made her sole trustee. I don't think that's behavior consistent with most people's definition of a mother. So I call her birth mother. So dad, he had a trust. And basically, mother didn't like the terms of it.

So she just waited till he couldn't say no. And that's my first lawsuits about that. But because I'm kind of a vocal opposition to my mother and her lying attorneys, and we'll introduce you to some of them, I'm being sued by one of her lying attorneys for reprinting his lies on a t-shirt and filming a video about his lies. But back to my father's trust. And look, this is what I've learned.

And I'm so honored by the interest. I think everyone deals with, the name of my book is called family fraud. Everyone deals with that. You know, someone dies and not everyone is honorable when the, you know, strong leader of the family like my father was is gone. And so greed happens, theft happens. Everyone deals with this. Just Google like family fraud.

They call it familiar. Yeah, family members. Yeah, there are people that you're close with. But they use the word F-A-M-I-L-A-R, like you're familiar with something. Right. But they use it in a different context, familiar fraud. It's a weird kind of word. So you have to overcome, you know, you suit your mother.

Look, if you view her as a mother, you would never question. Why, you know, John, all the, my sisters, this is kind of their argument. John, all the money went to mom, except Dad's trust in 1998. Dad's trust said, wait, wait a sec, all the money doesn't go to mom. Dad's trust says half the money goes to mom. The other half goes in a family trust to benefit my five kids. Right. And each kid can't withdraw their share until they're 45 and 55.

And the big thing was, dad chose his bank to be the trustee. So this was in 98. I didn't learn about this until later. Dad's wishes were follow my trust. Right. Mother knew about this, you know, for 15 years. And I guarantee you, you know, my dad was, if I'm stubborn, and belligerent, you know, like father, like son.

I guarantee you, mother was like, oh, come on, make me the trustee. Oh, come on, I've been married to you for 47 years. I put up with your cigar smoking and you're farting in bed and all sorts of stuff, right? And dad was like, no effing way. It's my, you know. Yeah. She just waited until he couldn't say no. And so, um, dad had a trust and 16 days.

before he died he was on home hospice now picture this do you remember um and i don't want to cut uh besides your mother and your father my mother was on hospice yeah hospice okay so um she's completely dependent on everybody around her to help her do anything or say anything or just it's it's she's on her way out vulnerable yeah extremely vulnerable and yet at the time you were probably like you know mom can I yeah she was extremely vulnerable the last few years of her life in general just you know when you're when you're being weighted on hand and foot by everybody around you like her mind was gone years before and she was still fairly sharp but it wasn't hard to convince her to do anything if you wanted her to so let's say hypothetically if maybe not a sibling uh although i'd like to use

the example of a sibling but let's just say someone you trusted or thought you trusted um swindled your mother. How would you feel? I mean, I would be, you know, obviously I would be furious. But, you know, what's funny about that is that, like, you know, I have examples of her being taken advantage of by family members. Give me one. So just being asked to pay for this or buy this or use your American Express card to buy this or don't you want to buy so-and-so this, you know, you know, grammar or whatever it is. And it's, oh, of course, well, I mean, she's feeble-minded. She doesn't know how much money she doesn't even understand how her bills are being paid. Like she thinks I've got plenty of money, but the truth is you don't have plenty of money anymore.

The money's gone. Would you agree there's nothing worse than that? Like taking advantage of an elderly, a vulnerable elderly person, no different than taking advantage of a kid. Well, that's the worst. I mean, that's one of the worst things. Like people talk about my crime all the time, right? guys will be will go on and they'll say like to me 99% of all my victims are banks right and institutions yeah banks and and um insurance or sorry the title insurance companies that had to maybe repay the bank or um i have four individual victims right all of them perfectly within you know the mentally capable of of their faculties 100% um You know, and it's less than $30,000 between all of them. And I didn't take any money from them. They just hired an attorney to fix what the damage I'd done to their house's title, whatever, you know, which in and of itself is a horrible thing. And I certainly, you know, should have known that was going to happen at the time.

You know, complete scumbag move on my part. But what always gets me is people when, and I usually, if somebody said, man, you're a scumbag for that. Absolutely. If you say what I'm a scumbag for what I did, I agree with you. but when guys will come in in the in the comment section and go this guy's a piece of shit he stole from old people he whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa like that's their go-to move because you know why because they know that's the worst thing you could say to someone that's the one of the worst things you could accuse a fraudster of being a fraudster in general makes you a piece of garbage but when you

specifically went out of your way to steal from old people people are disgusted by fraudster are typically disgusted with each other. It's like, okay, bro, I took Visa for 20 grand. You went and stole 80,000 from an old person. Like, what are they going to do? Like, that's not, they don't, they can't bounce back. They can't work an extra year or two and replenish that money. Like, that's, that's fucked up.

So I, I mean, so I know exactly what you're saying. And I was going to say another thing is, you know, before we get too into it, is that your sister's saying that, um that you know mom wouldn't do this or family members wouldn't do that listen i i've seen family members in many other families when money is involved people start cutting each other's throats and i mean it's despicable i and i my friend treon his father died um and that's it i want to ask you is that his real first name jian tri on t either t r e o n yes the There was like, Trian, Troy, and Trent was the three boys' names. And his dad died like a year or so ago.

And when he passed away, before he passed away, Trian was at the hospital with him. And he said, so I'm sitting there with my dad. He said, the guy, like, he said in like the same room, but like over further, passed away. He said, and while they were sitting there with their father, as a father like died. I want to say this is how he said it happened. He said like as soon as they said that as soon as the doctor said, you know, he's gone. He said, we're talking about he says there's like three guys there. There's two girls, three guys, a couple kids.

Immediately as soon as they said, you know, okay, he's passed away. One of the brothers goes, I get the truck, bro. I get the truck. And he goes, no, man, you don't get to. Listen, man, I'm the one to put the new wheels on that truck. And somebody else is like, look, I don't care. I want his furniture. I went like,

he said, Trian thought, said, I, he was like, the guy wasn't even cold. And they were already fighting over his furniture and his truck. He,

and Trian, he said, I, I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. But that's how people, those are obviously scumbags, but people,

when money is involved, you know what people are really like when money's involved. Well, let me, sketch out what happened the 16 days before dad died. So see if this makes any sense. And by the way,

to any listener that wants to read my family fraud book, on my website, familyfraud.net, they can download it for free and I assume you'll... Yeah, we'll put the link in the description box.

Yeah. And I did that to honor you because I'm so thrilled. This is the first publicizing of my story. I wrote the book last summer, and I realized, you know, ultimately I'm probably going to lose all my case because, you know, my mother's stolen $30 million is funding all this, you know, legal action against me.

What wins in a civil lawsuit? Money. Right? And they got more stolen money. I borrowed $150,000 from my bank. Matter of fact, I was just declared indigent by the Lee County clerk of the court. I don't know if you're familiar with the indigent statute.

I was in federal prison. My whole case on indigent. Yeah, so indigence, you can't own a vehicle worth more than $4,000, real property. You have to have net equity of less than like three or four grand. I meet all those criteria. And that was their whole game plan. So anyone, look, on paper had my family followed my father's wishes.

You know, if dad was worth $30 million, according to his trust, his 1998 trust. And by the way, on that date, he also created a trust for mom. And they're both December 14th, 1998. But in his trust, had his trust been followed, half his wealth were 15. million according to mom would go to mom and the other 15 million would go to uh his five children right so on paper and i'm sure some of your viewers and i wouldn't be surprised if some of the comments are like ah this is just sour grapes right he was cheated out of three million and you know i think of my father do you think your mom uh a lot i think about my mom all the time every day yeah me too

I mean as much as funny as much as I try not to so and you think of her you probably also think of what she meant to you you probably also think of her values right like give me three values about your mother um I mean she was hard working she was extremely she worked her whole life she worked as she worked in different capacities you know I think of obviously being a homeowner or being a house wife as part of that but um yeah she was she was extremely hard worker um and do you think you get your work ethic from her her and my dad my dad my dad you know when you say when you said oh i worked you know 80 90 hours a week like i don't think people realize how much that how much working that is and i've done that like i literally that's literally i worked 96 hours a week for about three three or four months one time where and that's literally 12 hours a day not including drive time so driving an hour to work so working 12 hours driving an hour i was working 14 hours a day i was either in my vehicle or working and i did that for like four or five months well about four months and long before cell phones

oh yeah no no no this is back in the this is back in the um back in the 80 this is back in the uh late 80s so but I was going to say um my father worked 10 to 12 hours a day like he worked this is a guy that left at you know 7 8 in the morning and got back at 6 o'clock at night and expected to have you know dinner on the table my mother raised four kids she wasn't doing that she was a school teacher she you know she worked in the you know worked in the garden kept up the whole house you know did did all the things that she did you know listen super you know good values she was a great uh great mother great you know uh great wife so yeah honest hard working very hard working always pushing always striving to want her kids to be better so yeah you're

also real in my opinion um you're also really generous i mean granted i was pitching you something but you actually spent time uh do you think uh your mother one of your mom of your mom values was being generous no she was super listen i had a girlfriend that i dated i met her when she was i was like 16 or 17 she was 15 16 my parents helped by her her first car after we she and i broke up my father financed a vehicle for her and let her make payments every month for five years my mother after my mother used to pick call her every few months and say i'm going to ross or i'm going to marshals would you like to come with me when can you go and she would tell her her day off take her with her and then have her pick things out and pay them pay for them uh so yeah my mom was she was

great yeah so you know my father's on had the same i i would say the three main his three main values were family being generous and hard work right and i think there's less uh there's greater values but i don't know what they they are like you know when he died what i wanted of his um were his passports um we all got But he was cremated. We all got, you know, one-sixth of his cremains, right? Right. And this was a kind of an ironic video I filmed.

I was in this, I went on vacation a couple years ago to this cute little town called Walala. It's spelled G-U-A-L-A-L-A. It's about 100 miles north of San Francisco. And the town sits like a... on a cliff. And I don't know if you've ever driven on US One in California. It's, I think it's scary.

You know, if you're just distracted for a minute, you drive off the cliff. There's no guardrails and stuff. It freaks me out. So I was in Willala, and I had his ashes for, you know, seven years. You're sitting there. I was in this beautiful place, and I thought, I ought to throw his ashes, you know, disperse his ashes to nature. And so I'm narrating this video and I'm like, you know, in this lawsuit, my mother's attorney, his name is Kenny Kemp, and he's a little guy. You say you're little. I mean,

if you're five foot seven, he's the height of an umpalumpa. Right. I mean, he's little. And he hates being little. He drives like a one of these pickup trucks. You need a step ladder to get into. And I'm pretty sure he wears lifts in his boots. I didn't see any lifts in your shoes. they're hidden well you say in a good pair of shoes so um i think you're probably closer to five nine no yeah look i i i'm six i'm like five six i'm six i'm six foot two that means you're seven inches shorter than me easily now now maybe it's the big afro i i notice you're wearing your hair in afro maybe that adds a couple of inches but um anyways my father uh had this trust. He died. Oh, so let me set the scene. All right. Your mother's in hospice. You know what

it's like. All right. So dad's in hospice. My sister's, my sister Karen sent an email a week before this magical day when apparently dad, he creates his trust 98 with his Illinois attorney and his bank trustee, first national bank Chicago, now Chase. And then one day, August 5th, 2013, he's like, ah, fuck it, I'm going to change everything. And, you know, I've been keeping all this money from my wife. I'm going to give her everything, except I'm not going to have my Illinois attorney present and I'm not going to have my bank trustee present. That sounds legit, right? Right. Yeah, fuck it. Something's wrong. Something's wrong. Right. And the signatures don't why wouldn't the new attorney at least work? So that for the, for the sake of, you know, of not,

appearing to be to have an issue why wouldn't the attorney ask them to be present ask who to be present the illinois attorney and the bank rent of representative i mean even if it's not even if they're not doing anything that's that's unethical like why not go ahead and request them to be there just to so that it doesn't come up in the future oh okay well you're assuming you're dealing with an ethical uh attorney right okay which is funny too because they're so many people out there that have they if they have no real like everything they know about the law they watch law and order they watch some program and everything they know about you know a legal you know they've watched these news these programs and they think well that's how it is like

the law profession is very they're all very ethical they're always concerned there but the truth is there's i've met so many schisty scumbag um what is it uh what's the saul a better better call sol kind of, you know, those kinds of tricky changing this, altering this, those kind of attorneys that are out there that most people don't realize that there's a huge chunk of crooked attorneys

that are out there. It's just not hard to find on. I would not say that attorney Chris Marcella of Naples. I'm sure he's salt to the earth. He's probably great. Very ethical. I'm sure I would never accuse him

of being on ethical um but i happen to have some of his work here and i'd like to share it with you i know we're jumping around here so this first let me set the scene for attorney marcella okay so my attorney has deposed him right he has to testify under oath right and apparently under oath is like oh i better not lie i'm under oath right but my experience has been eh if someone's a liar Under oath doesn't really matter. They're in court. Under oath doesn't really matter.

If they're a liar, they're a liar. A tiger can't change his or her stripes. His striped. Tigers are always boys. Aren't there female tigers? Tigresses. Tigresses? Tigresses.

Anyways, so dad's on home hospice. Now, attorney Christopher Marsala, who in my video, I don't call him attorney Chris Marcella. I call him attorney marsupial. Right. I was trying, I picked a name. I was trying to think of something that was kind of like oily and marsupials. Don't they have that pouch?

I couldn't even tell you what a marsupial is. Is a kangaroo a marsupial? I don't know. If you're thinking he's going to look something up, like this is not, this isn't Joe Rogan where I've got a guy that's looking anything out. He's not doing it. Anyway, so I. attorney marsupial or marcella i did keep the same m marsupial whereas uh my mother's attorney instead of using his real name kenny kemp i use the complimentary name attorney mel practice

mel the old english i can't believe you're being sued it's shocking go ahead it's not shocking you have to understand. I paid particular attention. It's a complimentary name because Mel comes from the old English Melvin, which is a protector of the council. And in Latin, Mel means honey, which when I say Mel practice, now I know where you're going. You're going that I'm really saying malpractice. Right. Alleging that he's committed any of a variety of malpractice, but I would never use that word because it's spelled with a different letter. M-A-L practice.

It all makes sense to me now. Well, you change one letter. Changes everything. And it changes the whole context. Mel, M-E-L goes to Old English or it goes to Latin. Of course. You'd have to change. Look, I'm not really good at...

Let's paint the scene. Paint the scene. So, we have attorney Chris Marcella in Naples. Now, he's an hour away from dad, and dad is on home hospice. Could your mother travel anywhere when she was on home hospice? No. No. So, attorney Chris Marcella travels an hour each way to get two notarized signatures.

Now, he's a notary. and the American or Florida Notarological Society, whatever it's called, the main notary association, they set limits on what notary publics

can charge to notarized signature. I think it's maybe like $8 a signature. So this guy in his deposition, you got to, look, there's disbelief here and there's the truth here,

you got to kind of go, it doesn't make any sense, but this would happen. So his testimony is he's never had a client named John D. Smith. He doesn't remember my father named John D. Smith. Right. Here John D. Smith, Jr. Jr., right.

He's never had a client named Mary F. Smith. He doesn't remember my mother, Mary F. Smith. He doesn't have any representation agreement between him and my dad. He's never had a representation agreement between him and my mom. But on one day, 10 years ago, he drove an hour each way to notarize a couple of signatures for a client he doesn't know and has never met, all to make $8 a signature. Okay. Okay.

And why does he visit clients at home? Well, he testified in his deposition that, well, when they're physically unable to travel, and physically unable suggests they're in a cast, they broke their hip, they have an ankle. But he doesn't really cover if they're out of it on the home hospice. My sister, a week before this fateful day, August 5th, 2013, emailed the family saying, Dad keeps saying things like, how come I'm not in bed? Where's my bed as he's laying in bed? right so attorney marcella visits dad on his deathbed on home hospice on monday august 5th 2013 to make

$32 in in fees and this is some of his great work i'm just going to read it uh to you so you can see the power of what you're getting when you hire a naples attorney named chris marcella In the 1990s, was a 20-something-year-old Los Angeles-based drug trafficker of ecstasy and ice. He and his associates drove luxury European supercars, lived in Beverly Hills penthouses, and dated Playboy models while dodging federal indictments. Then two FBI officers with the organized crime drug enforcement task force entered the picture. Dirty agents willing to fix cases and identify. informants. Suddenly, two of Racini's associates, confidential informants working with federal

law enforcement, or murdered. Everyone pointed to Racini. As his co-defendants prepared for trial, U.S. Attorney Robert Mueller sat down to debrief Racine at Leavenworth Penitentiary, and another story emerged. A tale of FBI corruption and complicity in murder. You see, Pierre Racini knew something that no one else knew, the truth. And Robert Miller and the federal government have been covering it up to this very day. Devil exposed. A twisted tale of drug trafficking, corruption, and murder in the city of angels. Available on Amazon and Audible. Signature on the left is the signature on my father's will. Okay, so the will is dated August 5th, 2013.

The signature on the right is my father's alleged signature on the trust, again, dated the same day August 5th, 2013. What do you see? And I'm just gonna... Yeah, we were saying they don't look alike like there was the the the huge gap and the one is um do you believe that i mean based

on what you're saying i know you're not a forensic document right they don't look the same could the same person have made both signatures it's like i mean he's the letters that the you know like the the the way they're writing the letters do not look like Like it's the same person, you know, wrote those. And then if the signature on the- Even the D, it's like a completely different style D. Right, right. But it's a dramatic turnaround.

Right. I believe the signature on the left is legit. That seems to be the signature of a dying man. Would you agree with that? Did you ever see your mom's handwriting? well i mean in in general is that what his normal signature kind of more or less looks like like was it fairly consistent well my signature is fairly consistent you know it's it's it's got a it's very loopy and i'm i'm showing you that the viewers can't see us i'm showing you page three

from family fraud which they can see this if they go to our website and click on inside true crime and download the ebook for free they just got to fill out a short form yeah it's actually click on the logo yeah you have to click on my logo he is on is on the website and you have to click on the actual logo correct so you go to family fraud dot net and click on the inside true crime it's it's it's it's it's like a square yeah it's just they if anybody who's watching this knows with the logo it's the it's the barbed wire surrounding two fists if you click on that it's it'll bring you it'll give you a free download right so what viewers can't see now this top signature is his signature on his 98 trust and what dad did distinctively in my mind was his d you see how

he loops the d and he does this little squiggly thing i see the bottom well the signature on the right if you scroll over to the right so so the right signature, I hired a document examiner and he said, the signature is a forgery. And he said, zoom in to show the writing transfer. Yeah, you zoom into those two signatures. Yeah. All right, you see the gaps in the writing lines? Right. My document examiner said, in my document examiner, his analysis was affirmed by the other one. the other way yeah yeah there you go yeah that one that one you could tell where it's it's like someone someone was someone wrote the name john and then he concluded they scanned the signature

they scanned it in words that's a drop-in signature from another document oh okay right and the only thing that would prove that it's a drop-in signature is to look at the original signed uh monday august 5th 2013 trust. So my attorney tried to get it from attorney Kenny Camp and he goes, it doesn't exist.

Now, think of the old saying, three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead. There you go. So if you were going to forge something, what do you do? Let's just say that's not my dad's signature. Let's say he refused to sign it.

Maybe in a fit of rebellion, he knew what they were trying to do and he was like, fuck it, I'm not going to sign that, right? And let's say the trust is blank. do you keep a blank unsigned trust no you get rid of it right so when we tried to get a you know not a copy we want to see the original uh my mom's attorney kennie camp says we don't have it my mom carry she keeps everything right there's no way first of all you're not going to have

the original you're going to have the original you're going to throw out anything you're throwing out copies of it or anything you're trying to keep the original why but why would you not have the original or not want to share it unless it doesn't exist or it is blank right and if it's blank then well then it doesn't exist in the form that you're trying to pass it off on the right yeah like like you uh you know throughout your book you've admitted your mistakes yeah yeah i've signed many many documents in other people's names and right have you ever imagine if you were because isn't a forgery it's really the comparison of an original to a forgery that identifies the forgery right right so if you don't have the original all you have is a copy like all my mother and her attorney says they have are copies that that this being a copy right right but let's just say the original was unsigned right then that that going to show it. They're not going to show it, especially because showing in an unsigned means that

dad never signed the trust. And that trust, the 2013 trust, made mom sold trustee. So without dad's signature, what does mom have? She has nothing. She has the original trust that says that the bank is the trustee. Correct. And the big reason that she did it, it's a two-part reason. The first was to steal all the money. And then the second reason was to disinherit me. And look, this isn't sour grapes. I feel like I've already won.

I mean, I tell people all the time. You know, they're like, you got cheated out of millions. How dare they? And I'm like, look, dad would say the value, you know, I think a dad all the time, like you think your mother. Dad would say, you know, the value is a lesser, the money is a lesser value. Think of what you've gained.

You know, and this is my honest to God thought, is that first I have my father's values. He was generous. I'm generous. He believed in taking care of his family. Although I don't have a birth family anymore because they've made it really clear. Right.

You know, my mother, you say you're narcissistic. Right. My mother is really narcissistic. when I sued her, she disinherited me, disowned. I lost not just my mother and my four sisters. None of my sisters can think for themselves. None of my sisters can say, well, what did dad want? What were dad's wishes?

Are dad's wishes being followed? All of them are like, they're like lemmings jumping off a cliff, you know, and also they've benefited. Right. Two of my sisters don't work. I'll give you an example. My sister Kristen, I want to show you a picture of her house. My sister Kristen lives in a $600,000 house that mom bought for cash with this stolen money, by the way. Is this, is this in Florida?

No, it's in Illinois. It's in Cain County, Illinois. If you know, your town's in Cain County, St. Charles, South Elgin, et cetera. I was just going to say, you got a $600,000 house in Florida is a nice house. Yeah. So this house is right here. If you were to Google that address, and I want to share that address. So it's a four-bedroom, three and a half bath, 3,700 square foot, two-story house. It's beautiful. And they bought it with furnishings, which probably were another 50 grand. So growing up, and it's just my sister in it. So this is the house of an unemployed person? she's not unemployed she works for a animal shelter and she probably makes i don't know 20 grand a year maybe 30 the taxes on this house are 17 000 a year i don't she can cover it i don't think someone making 25 grand a year comes up with uh 17 grand for the taxes um so the the thing about this

is this house is beautiful, beautiful. Oh, but growing up, so there's one person in 3,700 square feet. Growing up, we had seven. This is just for her?

Just for her. Oh, and what did she do to deserve this? Like the old Pet Shop Boy song? What have I done to deserve this? Came out in 88. I love music. Uh, she got divorced. And I say in the book, boy, if she got divorced and she gets a 600,000 our house, which, by the way, isn't in her name.

It's in mother's name because mother is a narcissistic. Right, right. Um, well, and she needs to be able to be able to yank her out of the, if she doesn't do what she says, you need to be able to easily say, get out of my house. Except mother would never do that because, uh, all my sisters are kind of lemmings. they all follow, they can't think for themselves. Because any sister, imagine your father's taken advantage of, and you see it right in front of you, one would think my sisters would be like, no, no, no, no.

Or they'd be like me. They find out after the fact they would sue, they would say, I'm acting on behalf of my father, how dare these people take advantage of feeble old man? Right. But the main point about my sister Christy's house is it's just one person in it growing up, We lived in a house 10% smaller, and there were seven of us in it.

Right. So, like, my father's values, my house is a thousand square feet. And it's big. Three-bedroom, two-bath. It's just me and it. It's all I need. I mean, there's rooms in the house I don't use. I don't use the front porch very much.

I don't use the back deck very much. So, I mean, I don't need the idea that, you know, Kristen couldn't have said, mom uh wait it's just me i don't need 3,700 i got a great idea instead of buying a 600,000 hour house and putting in your name why not buy a 200,000 hour condo and give me the other 400 grand in trust so if something happens to you i have liquidity mom doesn't do that um so back to we were setting the scene for chris marcella dad's on home hospital Marsala comes to get two signatures for a client that he doesn't have, and he's never met, and he's never done any work for dad or for mom, he says, under oath last August in his deposition.

And he does all this to get two notarized signatures. So let's check the quality of his work here. This is a paragraph, and we're going to put this on the screen. So my dad has a trust in 1998, and he has his trustee is his bank, not my mother. And he has very specific instructions in that trust. And clearly my mother didn't like him. So she just waited and waited until he was on home hospice, vulnerable. You know, you describe your mother.

And on August 5th, 2013, has this ethical and honorable attorney, and I say that tongue firmly in cheek. He's kind of a sloppy attorney, Chris Marcella. I'll give you an example. So if you look at the page 7 of the will, which is on the left, right i'm just going to read it and again this guy that visits a guy prepares this document and the trust

with the forged signature and then has his notary stamp chris marcella on it on the next page you know so he's got he's at least got some legal fees tied up into this and one would think a professional that signs his name

would would not make such a glaring mistake that no one's caught. My attorney hasn't caught it. No in the court system has caught it. Let me just read it to you. And this is the affirmation or the affirmatory statement made by the two witnesses, Glenn and Carol Murphy, which were our next door neighbors growing up. Quote, we certify that the foregoing instrument consisting of this and the six preceding typewritten pages were on page seven, six preceding type written pages, was on the date below signed, sealed, published, and declared by John D. Smith, Sr. as his last will in our presence, and that we, in his presence and in the presence of each other, have signed our names

as witnesses here to, believing John D. Smith to be of sound mind at the time of signing, and then the money shot right here. The said John D. Smith, Sr., having signed his initials at the bottom of each page and his name at the close of said will. Wow. The Murphys witnessed my father, John D. Smith, sign this will, and they also witnessed him initial. Him initial.

So, page one is it initial? No. page two no page three no and i know we're only sharing the signature page with you if anyone that that's had a relative all i can say is uh i'm litigating this case on my own meaning at trial at least at the defamation trial i'm uh defending myself it's called pro se right right And if you put pro se together, it's pros, you know? It is what it is. Pro se, and some people would say that, you know,

someone that represents himself, particularly at trial. Have you ever done a trial? No, but it's something I can learn. And I know this case more than anyone. And I'm going to be a lot more aggressive than my attorney. He's nice. But he said to me early on, he said, John, I don't dunk on other attorneys.

That's no good. You need to be able to dunk. You need to, like, shack, pull the net down on them. Yeah. Yeah. So, but the other thing is, I noticed you're in really good shape, and I'm straight. I can say that. And in the last two and a half years, I've lost 50 pounds, 40 pounds.

So if you go to a doctor, and the doctor says you need to eat better and take your Rosavu Staten and not smoke and exercise. Does that mean you're practicing medicine without license if you comply? No. No. So as someone that represents himself, has a fool for a client, eating right, eating healthy, it's not like you're practicing medicine. So defending yourself in court against a bunch of attorneys. And this is just the tip of it, the iceberg. This is just, I would call Chris Marcella, that's just sloppy. I don't know what you call it to say that someone, you're basically putting your law license on the line saying, yeah, I observed the decedent, Mr. Smith, initial every page. You know, some people have said

that would an attorney really go along and and for you know for money for right money would he look the other way and not just that being an attorney is like a license to steal because the truth is that if I were to go along with it like let's say you say okay for a bribe well they don't even they can legally bribe you because all they have to do is say I charge I charge $400,000 for my for my fee and since you could to pick whatever fee you want, your client can go, okay, knowing, but with that fee, I'm telling you right now, it's going to go through. I'm going to do whatever it takes. The truth is, I could have done this for $1,500 to $2,500. You know, that's what a normal, but I'm going to charge you

$400,000 because we're going to make sure this works out. And look, I am really lucky, you know, my attorney's name is Chris DeCosta. He's out of Fort Myers. And Chris, he's a good man. He may not dunk on other lawyers, but nor does he charge for every email and every phone. He is very honorable that way. But, you know, my main reason for doing that is, it's my feeling and belief that Kenny Kemp and all mom's attorneys, all they did was do what I'm told most attorneys do, is just delay everything to squeeze me. And it worked. And as a result of this, I'm in debt, I don't know, probably 200 grand to a bank. And I was recently declared indigent. And I don't have any more money to

pay my attorney. So in the face of walking away, I'm not going to walk away, here would be the greatest solution yet. There's two primary cases. And if someone wants to see me, John Smith, a non-litigator, which, by the way, tell me if you think this would be funny in my remarks to the, to the, look, both cases, there's a jury. Right. Right. And I view the jury as my ultimate audience. Right. It's not going to be a judge because the judge would rule against me. Yeah. Because I think it's a big family. Yeah. It is. Right. So, but, you know, with the jury, you have to be able to speak and relate to their. So you think it'd be funny if I said, you know, by the way, you know, my name is John

Smith. I'm the son of financial fraud victim, John D. Smith, Sr., and I'm really here on behalf of my dad. But, you know, I did want to disclose to you that this is my first case, but my first trial that I'm trying, but I'm in good company because my mom's attorney, Kenny Camp, this is his first case, too. Would that be funny? Right.

Has he never, he's never tried a case? Well, he's maybe have tried some. I think that would be bad because then I'm I'm conveying that I'm an attorney when I'm not. I need to tell him right away, look, I'm an amateur against a whole bunch of professionals with deep pockets and the ability to lie without remorse. I'm going to lose.

but I want I would not first of all the moment you say the lie and all that stuff they're going to stop you they're going to interrupt you your honor

he got you know what I'm saying there's this thing I don't know if you've ever heard of it have you ever heard of something called litigation privilege no I mean you're only allowed to go so far well and in those kind of rules

you know I like you get away with a lot in your opening statement I understand that but I'm wondering of how much they're going to No, and I wouldn't go with the joke because the last thing I want it, I want to convey a sense of sincerity.

Yeah, yeah, you don't want to make light of it, you know, et cetera. But the cool thing, so there's two cases. The first case is my lawsuit back in 2018 and I wasn't suing to get a portion of the inheritance. Right. Let's just be factual to your viewers. There is no inheritance. The inheritance would have been, had my father's trust been followed.

But all that's out there that the world really knows about is the trust that has this signature on it 16 days before a dad died, the trust that gave mom everything. Right. You know, where dad's like, for 15 years, I'm keeping all this from my wife. Right. And when I'm on home hospice, I don't know that she's keeping it from her. He's just saying that my, you know, that my will or, you know, what my goal is, well, my goal is that it be disparate. He's not saying she gets nothing. He's saying I want my assets dispersed in the following manner.

I want my kids to get half. I want you to get half. Like he's not saying she, you're saying keep it from her. He's saying this is for 15 years or, or, you know, this is, this has been my. You know, this has been what I want to happen. And even when he was sick and knew he was sick and got found what was, said, hey, you've got cancer. Like he had plenty of time to make those changes before he was. And he didn't.

He was mentally in a place where he didn't know whether he's in bed. He didn't know who people are. He didn't know exactly what's going on around him. And then he has an attorney swoop in with your mother and says, hey, we need you to sign this. And who knows what he was signing? He doesn't, who knows what they told me? I guarantee it was something like,

it was trickery like Smitty, his nickname was Smitty. The doctor needs you to sign some medical papers. It was some kind of trickery involved. And then the fact that they're not, it's not, every page is initialed. The reason pages are initialed, right,

is because, and there's actually a movie with Ben Affleck in it, or Affleck. I forget how you say his name. What's his name? he said his name? I think he said it right the first time. Where he's an attorney and his, the attorneys, the partners in the law firm go to a, go to a client who's worth, you know, whatever, billions. And he's on his deathbed. And they say,

look, we're, we need to, you know, have you sign some things before you die. And he signs the last page, right? And he initials it. And then. And they take that last will and testament or whatever it was, and they remove some pages, insert what they want it to say so that as the last sentence carries over to the next page, it actually works out perfectly, right? But he's initialed all the pages. Even then they were able to manipulate it so that they could change his last, or that document i don't know if there's a trust or a will but how so that they could alter it in such a way

but that's why you initial every page to say hey the document i'm signing i'm initialing every single page to keep someone from committing forgery right but when you have nothing initialed you have nothing initialed and you have people saying i saw him initial it would you see him initial there's no initials what are you talking about one would think the pride of attorney chris marcella when he learns about this would go, oh my God, how could I have, how could I have, you know, oh, God, you know. Well, I think he's probably banking on the judge shrugging it off going, well, I mean, that happens sometimes. I was an attorney.

Those things get overlooked and shrugging it off, which, listen, you know, judges were attorneys. They know that attorneys fuck up. They want to cover other attorneys in the legal profession. They want to cover them. That's why prosecutors, for instance. prosecutors will get up and mislead judges and lie to judges all the time and there's there's never any recourse unless the media is there to throw such light on it that it makes the judge look horrible or the process look horrible that's the only time i've ever seen a judge or the

legal profession kind of um you know monitor themselves or or um you know basically come in and and and say, okay, we're going to make, we're going to make an example of that we're going to go and say something about this so that it doesn't look like it happens all the time, because the truth is we all know, fucking happens all the time. But in this particular case, we're going to have the judge yell and scream and make a big fuss about it, and we may even have this guy get sanctioned by the bar. We won't make him lose his license ring. That's just too much.

Or maybe he loses his license for a year. Listen, in Tampa, in Tampa, there was a lawyer, Kevin, oh God. What was his name? Coontz or something like that. His name, I think his last name was Coons. He was a U.S. attorney in Tampa. He literally doctored up transcripts. I think he's in your...

He's in one of my stories. One of my stories. He doctors up transcripts, reads the transcripts to a jury, gets the jury to indict to people who lost their child, but says he's going to put them on trial. the only way they were the Goldsburgs or something like that the only way they were able to get it thrown out was

they begged for six months to a year they begged the judge were begging you to look to listen to the tapes that he says these are the transcripts because there's no way we said this the judge finally listens to the tapes because there was so much media attention on it

the judge read the lawyer the right act. Then the U.S. attorney above him said you're either going to quit or you're going to have to go work in the civil department. Like you can't work criminal cases anymore. You're too dangerous. So you can do civil litigation. So he quits. And a year later, they appoint him as a U.S. attorney in another district. So we're going to fire you. We're going to make you quit. But don't worry. A year from now, we'll hire you. And they hired him as a supervisor. So, because let's face it, if he wanted to throw, if Coons wanted to throw a fuss, Coots could say, what are you talking about, bro? This happens all the time. We do this kind of stuff all the time.

Like, he could have made it look bad. Instead, they said, look, you understand the position we're in. You go ahead and quit. We'll hire you again in a year. We'll give you a raise. Like a back to a deal. Right. So because there's no way to say, hey, you were fired from the U.S.

Attorney's Office and hire. by another U.S. Attorney's Office, still in Florida, just in a separate district. There's no way to say that that's acceptable. But nobody thought that anybody would ever catch that. And they didn't. My point is, these things happen. And even when they admonish themselves, even when they govern themselves, they still take care of themselves.

They never just cut someone's throat. And you think, oh, that guy works at, that guy's working at Tire Kingdom now. He's a manager at Tire Kingdom. or he's he's working at McDonald's like that's not what's happening that's not what's happening at all so i'm sorry so i went off on tangent but yeah i hear what you're saying so my whole thing is he's banking on i'll get in front of the judge your honor your honor it's a mistake the judge would be like god that happens sometimes i'm not going to hold him responsible for that we're not going to address that yeah i'll tell the jury you're jury this is what happens sometimes

we're not don't even focus on that and they're they're going to no offense they're probably probably just going to run over you. Look, I'm expecting to lose. I'm expecting to lose. But you remember Rocky? Yeah. Right. What was the big, what was Rocky's goal?

It was, and there's a song named after it, his goal was to go the distance. Right. All he cared about was lasting 15 rounds going the distance. He knew there was no chance of him winning. Yeah. And he won in the end, right? Ultimately, here's the...

he loses in the end. And what's Rocky 2, he beats Apollo. Sorry, it's only been, it's only been 76. It's a great movie, though. It is. Listen, in my opinion, he still won. He still, like you say, he went, he did go the distance. And anybody who watched that, he won.

You know what I'm saying? Like, the fact is, is that Apollo Creed should have crushed him. Apollo beat, Apollo Creed should have been humiliated that this underdog, complete underdog, even went 15 rounds. with them. And what happened with Sylvester Stallone? He wrote the movie and he was really successful selling it, but they wanted someone else. Yeah, they didn't want him. And he fought for him. Yeah. And he took less money. Yeah. At some point, at one point, I don't know if you know this. At one point they, so they started by giving him like, we'll give you 50,000 for the script. No. He said,

okay, great, 50,000 for the script, but I star is Rocky. No. Goes to, you know, another studio. They said, We love it. It ends up being a bidding war. He gets it up like $250,000, $300,000. And this is a time when Sylvester Stallone said, I'm bouncing checks. Like, I can't pay my rent. Like, I'm, I'm, I'm, he literally sold his dog. Do you remember in the, if you listen to the story that he sold, he had a dog.

He couldn't afford to feed his dog. He sold his dog. And finally, he came back and somebody said, we'll let you star in it, but we'll only pay you like I don't know what the amount was. I think it was a half million. It was a ridiculous. Are you saying they got it up to half a million? No, no.

The budget for the movie was a half million. Oh, okay. No, but they said, but to him, they were like, but we're not paying you a couple hundred thousand for the script. We'll pay you like 30,000. He'd that on himself. Yeah. And he said, but I get to star in it.

And they were like, okay, you can star in it, but we're not paying you the $200,000. We'll pay you this much. And they gave them next to no budget to do the whole movie. And it was Rocky. It's one of the most successful movies of all time. Turn turned into a whole. series. There's like six or seven of them now. So my vision with the, with the book is I want to

give it away. And I believe and I repeat myself and there's a fair amount of humor. Right. A little sarcasm, a little bit. Maybe a little bit. But there's also a lot of truth, although I say with Nana Kemp, Kenny Kemp's grandmother, you know, my grandson tells the truth. Right. Which is what and a little old lady would sound like if she didn't have her teeth in. A little nuances stuff like that. Is that bad? I mean, am I, if it's

truth, if it's funny but it's truthful, am I mocking old women to say that a lot of them don't have dentures and when they don't have dentures, they say truth as look, I was missing my front tooth I bit into a piece of candy

about a year ago and the tooth broke. Oh man. So I had to get an implant. And, you know, it's hard to swear without a front tooth. You know, it's like, F you, you know, it's hard to get that F sound. Your tongue touched your teeth, all these things you learn. So my goal with the book is I wrote it to teach people the lessons that I learned and also to share my family with the world because I would love it if, I mean, mean, just to have a feature article written about it to show that this happens to a lot of

people and the subtlety, what my mother did was she just waited until my father was vulnerable and then took advantage of him. And she plays on, oh, she's just this sweet old woman. Like, tell me if this makes any sense. This is her testimony at a hearing. Dad had a million and a half dollars in life insurance with Mass Mutual and John Hancock. And four months after he died, these life insurance checks came payable. So Mass Mutual wrote a $1.5 million check to the John D. Smith Trust. John Hancock wrote a $40,000 check to the John D. Smith Trust. Now, this is mother's testimony.

I took these checks into my bank, fifth, third bank. And she sounds just like this. I mean, I'm not mocking. She's in a little, she's 82 now. She speaks kind of haltingly. Right. You know, it takes her a day to get out an hour's worth of conversation. I took these into the bank and there wasn't an account open.

in the name of the John D. Smith Trust, which was a problem. So the bank opened an account in the name of my trust, and they deposited the $1.5 million into my trust. I now realize, none years later, that it was a mistake. And if the court orders me to give this money back, I will do so. so you mean you didn't realize it was a mistake the next day just well and and why does the court have to order you to duh right and then but the idea that uh there is a million a half dollars checks may payable to matthew cox right and i take him into sun trust or bank of america and and they go are you matt cox and i'm like no uh oh but matt cox doesn't have an account here, okay, we'll put them in your account. It's illegal. Right. Yeah. And yet, this is conveyed to

a magistrate. Her name is Kim Bocelli. I mentioned her in the book, Lee County. And she goes, Mrs. Smith testified credibly that she had made a mistake in depositing this into the wrong account. Now, look, banks don't make mistakes like that. Mother goes in and she has some con story, et cetera. She swindled her bank or, you know, played the little old lady. Is it possible that a bank could deposit a check made payable to you in my account? I don't think so. No. There's no way in hell it happened. No. I mean, if it was a mistake on their part, but they would have to pay it back, they would have to correct it. And why? And why would you take, why would you need?

I can't imagine it would even, somebody would even do that. That doesn't even make sense. But this is what I'm up against. So the magistrate, Kimbo Chowley, here's this. If you or I wake up and, say, Bank of America, my bank, puts a million and a half dollars in my account, right? A mistake, right? But let's see, I keep it. They call that felony theft.

Right. It's not like, oh, well, I'm a million and a half richer, right? A mistake is what happens, but when you keep it, it's a felony, right? And that's what I'm up against in this, these judges, I mean, the greatest thing is the main judge. Her name is Elaine Laboda. And Ms. Lobota, if you're listening, I admire you. She's a hard ass. Dad would love her.

She's so accurate with her rulings. But Kim Bocelli, she's a magistrate. Magistrates handle stuff that judges are too busy to do. So I have the Magistrate ruling where she says, Mrs. Smith testified credibly. Oh, my God, I had to throw up in my mouth. I'm listening to this. I'm like, she's a million and a half checks made payable to dad's trust.

And how dare she put it in her own account? Oh, and she just realized it's a mistake nine years later. Look, the reason it's not a mistake is she intended that. she's had all this benefit of that million and a half dollars it's not a mistake when you steal but it's just like oh no no i didn't shoot him the gun went off yeah you know it's all it's bullshit you know people tend to lie about stuff like alec Baldwin because guns are constantly going off yeah they're constantly going off yeah they're constantly getting themselves shot in the thigh because they're like i was walking down the street with my gun and that fucking thing just went

off they're super dangerous i know when i i used to have a concealed weapons permit and we used to make sure that when we had a gun in in my the side drawer that we always face it towards the wall because sometimes in the middle of the night it would just go off so but yeah so the the main thing you know I don't know how much time we have left but what I wanted to walk you and your viewers through in the video in the book I accused the heck out of my mother and my sisters of committing tax evasion Right. I don't say one word about my mother's 10 attorneys. I don't say that they participate in tax evasion.

I don't say they're complicit with tax evasion. I do, in some ways, I want the viewer to smile along with me. So there's some kind of funny stuff. But there's also some things that don't make any sense. When I talk about my mother's attorneys in the video and the book, Family Fraud, what I do is to say, you know, I think my mother's greatest mistake was she's articulating to the IRS, the dad's estate was $8 million when she's sitting on $30 million all along.

So you believe it was valued at $30 million because your mother told you was and also based on her spending okay so well tell me the first thing that you said one time she had told you oh so so this was in like april of 2018 uh at the time she lived in my father's condo where he died in the living room of course or in his bedroom um and we were sitting there And this was before I learned that Florida law says that beneficiaries are entitled to this info. And I was like, Mom, you know, how much was dad's estate? And she wouldn't say. And my sister Jenny was there.

Jenny's kind of like mother's financial advisor. Jenny hasn't worked in 10 years. All my sisters are on the cover. And life has not been good to them, at least two of them. so my sister jenny um it's not her fault it's not her fault you're laughing what what is what so she's i don't know how much she weighs but she's like five foot two she has a pacemaker um and she'll tell anyone that listens that she has fibromyalgia which apparently is some syndrome that uh requires her to eat um

unhealthy and not exercise, especially when she has a pacemaker. And so she has to, oh, and sleep in and not work. But she has this syndrome. Look, all this stolen money, two of my sisters, it's not helping. Because Jenny, look, in the last 20 years, on my own volition, because I was 298 pounds. And that was, I couldn't believe how. how undiscipline I was that I allow, what's the most of you ever weighed in your life? Probably. I mean, the most I ever, probably about 205 pounds. But specifically, I was like 19 or 20 years old and working out and trying to weigh 205. But like I weighed what I wanted to weigh. What do you weigh now?

Me? Now, I weigh like 180. I'd like to get down to 170. I'd like to lose like 10, 10 to 15. I say 15. bounds, but I don't, let's say 10, testosterone, you'll lose the weight. I know, I don't want to, I don't want to do that. So it's probably going to be, but I'd say, let me put it this way. When I walked out of prison, I weighed 150. Wow. Right. So, and I knew I was going to gain weight because it's easy to lose weight in prison.

You know, and all I did was walk. And I knew I was going to get out and I was going to be able to work out with weights and I was going to be able to eat better. So by the time I left the halfway house, I was probably 1, 160, and it's only because I took the testosterone and I've shot up to 180. so yeah but i'm i'm but you've also made gains in lifting weights you can lift more yeah i would never let my weight get away from me not only because obviously i don't like the way i look and i feel i feel super uncomfortable if you get if i get up around 185 190 i feel uncomfortable but not

duchess it's just super unhealthy like you know you there's all kinds of issues with just gaining weight so when i see people that are super heavy i always do think it's just it's just um They're just undisciplined. By the way, does lifting weights, is it an narcoleptic? Does it put you to sleep at night? Oh, yeah, you feel better. No, but you're so tired. Yeah.

When I run two and a half miles a couple times a week at night, yeah, you're out. I'm out. Right. It's great. And it's not that I'm walking around tired. I just, your body just needs that time to, to sleep. But I was going to say, I always love people that are super overweight that will say, you know,

that, well, I have a thyroid issue, I have this issue, I have that, you know, or people that say, you know, well, you can't just starve yourself and lose weight. And I was, I always think people in concentration camps. And I think, well, there was never some fat person who was like, wow, well, everybody else weighs 100 pounds. And there's this one person that weighs 300 pounds. And they say, oh, that person must have a thyroid problem. Like, I mean, if you cut back on your calories, you're going to lose weight. That's just the way it is. Like, there's no... Everything improves when you lose weight.

Oh, you feel, of course, yeah. The thinner I am, the better. Now, granted, I don't get to get the enjoyment of eating a cheeseburger, you know, which does suck. I would love a cheeseburger. But yeah, I hear you. Yeah, yeah. Your sister clearly doesn't have that issue. Well, yeah, but also, here's the thing, you know, in this whole ordeal.

So this is a horrible conversation, by the way. I know exactly how horrible this sounds, but it's fine. whatever. I'm okay with it. Yeah, but here's the thing about my sisters. So back about five years ago, my mother creates a company called Smitty's Footprints. It's based in Lee County. Dad's nickname was Smitty. And I think, again, I haven't had a conversation with my mother in five years, my sisters, and about that time. I have lost when dad died and when I, and really my lawsuit is about standing up for dad. And my outrage is how dare someone take advantage of a vulnerable person.

And anyone that is curious, I'm expecting to lose. But if I won, ultimately, what I would love to see happen is like that scene in ghost, when Odomay, you know, with Patrick Swayze's help, when they steal back the bad, the evil money, and then they're walking along and Patrick Sway is like, no, no, I want you to write it over. and she's like, it's $2 million. You want me to give it away to it, you know? And then, you know. And he's like, it's dirty money.

It's dirty money. And she won't like, you know. Yeah, yeah. She won't let go of it, right? So ultimately, I think the greatest justice would be for the court to say, yes, this was a terrible, terrible awful, as they say in the movie, The Help. It's a terrible awful that happened. And all the money's round.

it up. All these homes, my sisters are living in rent-free that mother bought with this stolen money, are sold. Oh, my sisters might have to get jobs. Oh, wow, be like all of us. And all of this money is donated to a charity. That, to me, would be the ultimate justice. Because ultimately, like, five years ago, my mother creates this company called Smitty's Footprints. It's in Lee County. And then she starts buying all these homes for, cash. Way more cash than is in the $8 million estate. Right. And then I happen, it was back when I was talking with my sisters, I happen to notice a big discrepancy in the articles of incorporation. You know, anyone can look. You go to sunbiz.org, Department of Corporations. And they have

the articles of incorporations, Smitty's footprints, there's a thousand shares. Oh, in footprints, I believe, is an ode to the Jesus' footprints in the sand. You know, originally there were two pairs and was me and Jesus walking along. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Jesus, you forsake me. No, no, no, no. That was me carrying you. I think it's that, but no one talks to me.

Smitty's footprints down in Lee County. So you look at the articles of incorporation back in 2017. A thousand shares, 950 shares owned by mother. 50 shares on by my sister Jenny done everything right doesn't work you know oh how dare my brother sue you that's mother's narcissism in my mind she names a company after dad and then dad was generous why wouldn't she go like Jenny it's all yours or Jenny 50 50 my sisters didn't know that mother had set the company up like this and I was like well you need to do something you need to tell mom Fuck you.

You need to sign your share over it. Because Jenny's kind of, and I say this with full love, she's kind of a weaker person. You know, life is victimized her, et cetera. But she's someone that struggles with self-esteem and feelings of self-worth. And her own mother creates a company with her and then throws her under the bus

and doesn't treat her equal. And I mentioned this to my sisters, the other three sisters, and they do absolutely nothing. This is the family. And to me, this is an outrage. Like, okay, if you call it Fran's footprints, well, Franz are narcissist, of course.

95% mom, 5% Jenny. But Dad was generous. Name it after dad. And then it's so, it's just awful, awful behavior. So what I... So let me walk you through the front. I was going to say, because it's the discrepancy between telling

the IRS $8 million, but actually having roughly $30,000, spending roughly $30 million. Like, how's that possible? Correct. I'm pretty good with math. Okay. So, first, her whole plot, there's two things afoot here. There's the IRS, there's the IRS discrepancy of starting with $30 million and tell them $8 million. And by the way, how did she do it?

How many accountants do you think she has? One. How many accountants do you need? She has three. So she has one accountant. It's this company called Markham, Norton, blah, but I can't read upside down. They're in Fort Myers. Markham, Norton, Misteller, Wright, and company.

Right. Randall Wright is the main account. So that accountant does that my dad's trust tax return. That's the only thing they do. Then another accountant does. Dad's personal 1040 and dad accountant's name Stephen Brett Holtz of Fort Myers. But wait, there's more. And then the third accountant does Dad's 706 estate tax return, Kim Probe.

Now, why do you think Mother had three separate accounts? Well, because if one accountant would have all the information, they would all be the same. You can go to one accountant, and I can tell you the estate's worth $8 million because this house is worth $2 million. This is worth $200,000, $200,000. There's this much in this account. You can tell them that. And then they say, okay, so it's $8 million. Yes, it's $8 million.

Then for the purposes of, let's say, depreciation, you could go to another accountant and say it's worth $20 million and we're depreciating this and we're doing that. Well, that's in conflict. But you're giving conflictory information to each accountant. If it was one accountant, he would say, well, wait a second. What's going on here? You said this last time. Yeah, what's going on here? I can't do that.

That would be unethical. I'll get in trouble for saying $8 million here, $20 million here, and $2 million here. That's not right. I have to be consistent. But if you go to three different ones, the left hand doesn't know what the right hand's doing. That's exactly my suspicion. And again, this is not something that I believe she's had this. conversation with Kenny Kemp. I believe she's paid Kenny Kemp. That's her main attorney.

And again, this attorney went from a hundred and fifty thousand hour town home prior to knowing mom to a million and a half dollar mansion. He bought a, and this is just a crazy thing. He did what? He lived in a hundred and fifty thousand hour town home in 2014. Prior to, okay. Prior to knowing mother. Right. Within three months of knowing mother. And obviously, Obviously, Kaching, right? Because I believe he knows the real estate is $30 million. Right, right. So within that time, he went from $150,000 condo to...

He bought a house for $1.4 million, and he put $400,000 cash on it. Now, how would I know that? Well, I'm good at research. So you go to the... Public records. Yeah. It's... Right.

You see the mortgage for $900,000. You see the deed for $1.3. You look for any other mortgages. is there are none. The only answer is... He put down cash. He put down 400 grand cash. Now, how would someone that lives in a $150,000 home for 14 years suddenly have 400,000

hour cash? Well, he's not, he, he, that's a lot of $8 signatures. A lot, it's a lot of notaries. No, no, this is a different, that's a lot. This is a different, different attorney? Different attorney? Chris Marcella only did the, you know, forged trust. Okay.

Attorney Kenny Kemp is... I'm sure he's a notary, too? Maybe... A lot of notary signature. That's a lot of wills. Kenny Kemp is throughout family fraud book. Oh, okay. Kenny Kemp is suing me for defamation because I took three of his lies, put him on a t-shirt,

and wore him to a deposition facing him. It's my sense of humor. I thought it'd be funny. Did he think it was funny? He took pictures and then he sued me, so apparently he has no sense of humor. But how do you defy humor? famed someone with their own lives. Right.

Well, you can sue anybody for anything. I know, I know. And this judge, this judge believes that my shirt is evidence. So with that in mind, I plan to, it's going to be my uniform. Look, if you say something cockamamie stupid and I just put it on a shirt and wear it, I'm defaming you with your own words. It's ridiculous. Right. Defamation is I take something that's untrue. Because the defense against defamation is truth. If you said it.

Right. That's the same thing I was saying that with me saying stuff in my book and using real people's names is that my, you know, my defense to anybody that were to try and sue me is, is the truth. But I have the truth. I know what the truth is. You said this here. You said this here. You're in this newspaper. You're in this. All of these are true things. So I don't have a problem with it. I've never never had a problem. Go ahead. Right. The $8 million to the, go ahead. Right. So three separate tax returns. The main one is after a year and a half of waiting for it, 14 months, this is my father's 706. And this version is not redacted.

You know what redacted means, right? Yeah, changed. Well, usually blacked out. They'll usually redact or black out a Social Security number. So that some fraudster doesn't. Right, right. Yeah. So, but this is when my mom says,

Dad's estate was only $8 million. What refutes it is her spending. Right. So that's what I want to go through with you right now. Right. So the number one question, someone will say, and this is what I have to prove at trial, is they're saying that I've defamed Attorney Kenny Kemp by wearing a shirt and filming a video showing what I,

I believe to be the truth. They falsely said that I've, in the video, said that Kenny Kemp and my mother's other attorneys aided her in the tax evasion or complicit. I had to go back and watch it again, and I found two spots where on the screen I flash Mrs. Smith and her four daughters committed tax evasion. Like, it's not there. Which is why they filed their stupid little defamation suit against me. It wasn't for the truth.

It was just to cause me to be indigent and spend a whole bunch of money. But this is the argument that I would make if I were in front of a jury. How do I know that mother's estate or, you know, dad's estate was greater than $8 million? Well, first of all, why was your mother tell the IRS it was worth $8 million? Right. Think about this. Let's say when someone doesn't do something that they should, would you agree they don't do something trying to avoid some perceived negative consequence? Right. Okay. So the reason why you, going back to your story, the reason why you absconded from Tampa

or left, went on the run, was a negative consequence that I'm going to get arrested and thrown in Yeah. Right. Right. So you're, why would you, why would you use someone, why would you go do this and use a different identity, right? Because if it, if there, if it's found out, I don't want it leading back to me. Right. So she tells the IRS $8 million. Right. So let's say, I think, you know, my mother, my whole family is really good at math, uh, myself included. And so I think mother did what we call it pro forma. Okay. If I tell the IRS, it's 30 million. Oh, they're going to. they're going to want estate taxes of $8 million of my fucking money. That's how mom thinks, right? Okay, all right. I'm not going to tell them a $30 million. Okay, if I tell them it's $20 million, the estate tax are going to be $4 million of my fucking money.

No way, I'm not going to tell them $20 million. Oh, but if I tell them $8 million, that's still millions, right? And there's no estate taxes. It's a little over, what, $2 million she has to pay then, right? No. She didn't have to pay any estate taxes. So why would you deliberately underreport to the IRS? It's to avoid paying taxes, which is what I say in the video.

Okay. Now, here's a little side note about the IRS. Everyone's afraid of the IRS. Right. If you are success, let's say you defraud the IRS, I don't know, $22 million. And you keep it under wraps for long enough. Like in my case, five or six years, they don't. give a shit.

The IRS, I met with a IRS special agent. They call it IRS CI, criminal investigation. So the people that investigate tax fraud are they, but they have these handcuffs, which are the statute of limitations, right? What, you know, everyone knows that Bernie Madoff story, it wasn't the IRS that investigated and prosecuted him. It was the SEC, right, Securities Exchange Commission. So the IRS, think of a wimpy country, like, you know, in World War II, what was it, Switzerland?

Yeah, that's the IRS. Anyone listening to work at the IRS, you'll agree with me. If you find out fraud and it's past the six-year statute of limitations, the fraudster gets away with it. So I didn't learn about this fraud until 2010. 18, 2019, it's, you know, and the IRS is, but have you ever owed money the IRS? A couple of grand. Well, I mean, yes, I have, yeah, not, yes, I have. A couple of grand?

Yeah. I believe, and I write in the book, there's two IRS offices. There's the IRS that governs the middle class and the poor, you or I, right? Right. And those are the one, oh, you owe us three grand, we're going to levy your bank accounts. We're going to stay, you know, your third child, et cetera. and then there's the IRS that governs the rich. And that's the IRS that goes,

ah, your mother is 80 years old. Do you really think we're going to handcuff an 80-year-old? Well, wouldn't you levy on me if I owe the IRS when I owe a couple grand? Why is it any different? There's two IRS offices. Right. Right. So what I've heard from, and they have a whistleblower office. Right.

A whistleblower office is kind of like a dead PO box. meaning they don't check the mail very often. You send in your whistleblower complaint, and they go, another complaint. You know, you can read horror stories about the whistleblower program. What's the point of having laws if they don't enforce them?

Right. Yeah. So the IRS is... So she had no fear of telling the IRS that it's $8 million. I've heard people say, John, it's crazy you wrote a book called Family Fours.

fraud. It's crazy. You're like staking yourself out there saying, you know, making, levying all these accusations. And I would submit to anyone. No, I think craziness is telling the IRS the estate's $8 million when it's $30. Right. That's crazy. So the way that, and I show in the book, and I also articulate in the video, the video, by the way, was shot in 2021. And the video really was kind of a fuck you to my mother and my and her attorneys who by this point in 2021 it cost me like a hundred grand so i sent it to as i recall i sent it to every irs criminal investigation office in the u.s there's like 56 of them and it was really like a video affidavit uh to law enforcement right that's why i shot it but i didn't know a lot of the stuff and i didn't know

about the forgery on dad's trust. I didn't know. By 2021, we were probably only to like 40 of Kenny Kemp's lives. You know, there have been maybe another two dozen since. So the book came out last year. And the thing is, not a lot of people know about family fraud, but everyone deals with family fraud, which is why I want to give the book away for free. And you can do that, you know, Any viewer here can read. You know, the e-book has a bunch of clickable links in it. There's a whole bunch. My main goal is to tell people what happened to me and teach what I learned so they can protect their family.

Right. All right. But now, going through the numbers, how do I know, you know, mother says it's 30 million. How do I know? She says it's $8 million to the IRS. Which says, it's an 8 million of the IRS, but I know that can't, it just can't be accurate. The second page of this document, and I, I don't know, is there a, is there a file there called Certificate of Trust? Yeah, that's the, next down.

No, no, no, I, all right, it's not there. this this is when mother purchased one of her properties for cash okay she had to provide her trust and now mind you this is a picture of the family is maybe about 10 days for dad died we're all at the Polynesian village in a room you know dad's you know he's like out of it like I see castles and then it was just a bunch of gibberish and we're like oh do you see heaven you you know but it was just really meaningful time with dad but this is so that's me that's mother that's my younger sister karen that's uh jenny that's my younger sister christie i'm sorry that's my youngest sister kacey it's hard to look this upside down and this is uh Kristen so like

Kristen and jenny are kind of underemployed unemployed um Karen And Casey works at Microsoft, Karen married well. Karen and Casey don't work. But the ultimate, you know, there's two crimes, the crime against the IRS, and the ultimate crime here is what my mother, my dad saw his family as a pie with seven slices, mom, dad, dad, five kids. Mom sees the pie. She doesn't have a son.

So this, when she bought one of her homes, she had to do a certificate of trust. And so she had to provide her trust. So this is the second page of her trust. And then there's four other boring pages. But she only lists her successor trustees, my sister Jennifer, my sister Kristen, my sister Karen, sister Casey. Right. this is when you think about American greed this this was her whole goal and this happened months before my lawsuit back in 2018 so all this was is mother in her mind is she don't have a son right and all this was is I'm going to steal this money for my husband and I'm going to redistribute it to my four girls I don't have a son okay right and if I were in my

20s, I'm 55 now, this would be really hurtful. I mean, like, to be disinherited by your mother, why over greed? And like, you know, if she's going to share it, do something good with it. Help the poor. But like two of my sisters to enable my sister Christy to live in a 600,000-hour home, that's not in dad's values. That's crazy. Do something good with this money. And I get it. At this point, I don't need the money. I can support myself. I, you know, I might be nicer if I had a, you know... 600,000-dollar house.

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and Audible. Back to, we got 8 million. Yep. How are you getting to 30 million? Okay. She says, I have $8 million. Okay. To the IRS.

Yes. All right. So her spending. So I have to refer to the 706. Is the 706 one of those files on the master file? I don't think it is because it has so much, it has so much public info. So I can email this to you, but I'd rather not. I'd rather just kind of walk you through it

so you can see it. All right. So we start with $8 million. Right. Then on page two of the 706, a million and a half dollars was paid to my father's trust. Right. Then on page...

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Shop now at IKEA.ca. Nine of the 706, the page numbers are at the bottom. Page nine. page 9 there's 738,000 if you add this one yeah these three add up to 738,000 right so we're two point roughly almost 2.3 million correct so if you make these if you start with eight million dollars and you have a calculator and Kellogg's common sense here and you subtract some basic expenses real estate there's another 300,000 dollars so now we're at 2.6 million to 2.7 million. Correct. So if you subtract all that from what you started

with, you're now at the net estate of dad of 5.5 million. Right. Okay. So that's what, that's what she's got in the bank count. Yes. Before this. So this is testimony she made last April in a hearing. She's under oath. And she's testifying that since Dad died, she's been spending $250,000 a year on living expenses. Now, mind you, the home's paid for. Right. But you can't argue with testimony under oath. So for the last 10 years, she spent $250,000 a year on living expenses.

And this is the source document. I didn't think I should bring it. So that's $2.5 million. Okay. In the same testimony, she said she's donated $200,000 a year to chair. charity. Nice. Two million's gone. Two million. Now think about this. Now she's at 4.5. She's down to a million dollars. Right. Now think of this. If all you had was 5.5 million. Right. Would you donate? Would you donate 2 million or 40% all the money you had in the world to charity? No, but I'm not a charitable person. I wouldn't donate anything to charity. I'm just that guy. Right. No. But if you had 30 million and you subtract whatever and you got 25 million, Would you give? They're probably getting nothing.

They actually are. I verified. All right. So. No, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying me. Yeah, you. Yeah.

I'm not giving them nothing. All right. So now. But your mom seems to be very generous. From very generous, very generous. So from 2000. With anyone but you. Well, but wait a sec.

From 2013 to 2018, I was told there was a trust for me. And I, starting in 2015, I, I could borrow against this trust. These proceeds were loaned to me. I signed, and I know why she did it now. And that was total of $446,000, that she loaned to me. And now a cynic would say,

if she'd loan you $446,000, you're her least favorite kid, what did she give each of your four other sisters? And I'm like, well, it's a hell of a lot more than $446,000. Right. You know, if she buys one of them a house and the other one of my house, but both titles on the houses are in mom's name. Right.

See, narcissism. So anyways, like you said, you know, living expenses and her, she's very charitable, and she loaned me $44,000. So those add up to this. Right. subtract them from the, now you have $535,000. Okay. All right.

So now these are other. things that are not included, but logical expenses, trust for my sisters. If she's telling me there's a trust that's going to loan me $446,000, and by the way, that money stopped on October 1st, 2018, when the lawsuit was served, and the reason was is that we don't want John to pay as lawyers with this money, which goes back to this money is not yours if it's yours right i should if i want to you know uh snort cocaine with it if i want to go to greece if i want to right right if it's your money you have the power so these are reasonable expenses that she would have had you know and the biggest thing kenny kemp she's been with him 10 years

Kenny kemp he drives now he has this million and a half dollar mansion and that was enough because remember he's about he's about the height of a umpalumpo umpa doopo do you right another riddle for you um he's tiny like you're he's probably two two Kenny Kemp's make one Matt Cox he's little and you know uh but he's got a big car big truck big truck big house um he probably has a big bed so big he needs like a ladder to the bed like a little person so anyway anyways so what we don't know and what he's been very about sharing is his legal fees the last 10 years right right oh it's none of my business except he knows that when you plug in let's say they're two million dollars in legal fees

well there's not enough money in the estate you know she spent this and she donated this where did two million come from that's the whole point i'm making the video is that if you look at these attorneys go ahead no i i'm just saying attorneys and you look at their lifestyles a guy lives in a million and a half dollar house and now he has a six hundred and fifty thousand dollar nortec 39 foot speed boat behind his in that in the marina who spends 650 grand on a boat a little guy right so let's okay so i i understand what you're saying but so your your sisters have most likely have trusts yes so we're assuming that they're let's say they're about the same as yours let's say half a million apiece times four okay two million two million two

million. Your mother has nine rental homes, insured maintenance costs. Do you have calculations for what you believe those are valued at? Yeah, that's a spreadsheet. So how much does that come to? Well, the raw cost of the, of the, these are the homes she's bought in the last, right, is 2.2 million. Yeah, 2.2 million. Right. And then this is, this is, there's no mortgages on these. they're all cash free and clear so she's now deep in the negative yeah and how's that pot i mean i say in the book it's like the loaves and fishes of jesus right you know jesus had

loaves and fishes all right and you can pull up you can pull up the spreadsheet now that one it's a miracle you had 536000 okay if tax evasion is not what's occurring here's what Kenny Kempa said She was she received money before your father died Oh really? Oh then it would be in dad's 1040 Huh

But a bequest is not there There's no paper trail That's odd So we've got legal fees Nine attorney legal fees that ain't that's not cheap CPA fees that's not cheap Trust and college funds for six grand children that's a lot um living expenses of two hundred and fifty thousand dollars per okay

per year yeah yeah yeah this is a 200 this is the original one right okay so all this comes to i estimate it well you know i say it's probably all this is another six to 10 million okay i mean you know we know two trusts you know four trusts for my sisters, if it's the same amount as me, that's $2 million. Right. Yeah, yeah. Another couple of million to our attorneys. See, they won't tell us, my attorney and I, what their legal fees have been the last

10 years because they know where... Yeah, yeah, it's excessive because it's excessive and it probably makes them look complicit. Yeah, yeah. So it's a total of... So, like, these were all the loans. You know, I keep really good records, but they... total up to be 446,000. So this is my ultimate spreadsheet is, you know, if she started with $536,000 and she bought all these homes, you know, taxes, what I don't have a handle on is like

homeowners association and are they quarterly or annually. But anyways, you know, she spent at least $2.8 million, probably like $3 million. And she only would have had $536,000. And again, this doesn't include the trust so what do you call that if you only got eight million you can't spend 11 right right and this is ultimately what's so silly about the pansies at the IRS is no one cares oh it's been six years ago oh it's been well there's nothing they can do it right like the statute of limitations is up is that what they're saying yeah but now a creative person so I want to show you this let's see

hold this up to the camera there no hold it so they can see the address let's see I was thinking the camera right behind you okay that's you yeah yeah so this is a letter this is one of the federal agencies I complained about okay right so

anyone out there if you Google the Center for Tax Rod reporting they're up in D.C. somewhere and so I Google them and it takes you right to a page with the IRS, Department of Justice, et cetera. So I send a complaint letter to them.

And then sometime in like January of last year, they sent me this packet. And I don't want to bore you with most of the content. But in the packet, you know, they have this, why you should care about IRS tax

fraud. But they sent me in a cover letter they sent me a whole bunch of documents oh and one of them is this so go ahead and read that over and this it looks to be a copy of a 1099

from Fidelity and Charles Schwab and it looks to be my mother's holdings as of I don't know June or July of 2021 $1.9 million down to $11, and we've got the ending value, but then we've got total investments in cash position, almost $11.5 million. Right. And so I assume that this federal agency, the Center for Tax fraud reporting, obviously a federal agency like this would have access to databases and stuff like this. But, you know, what's interesting about this, this thing was called Exhibit 14.

So back almost two years ago, my mom's attorney Kenny Kemp, he had accused me of committing fraud on the court. He had all these false allegations. Ultimately, Judge Laboda, my favorite judge, because she's a hard ass. I think she would admit, agree with that. She doesn't suffer fools. Ultimately, she found that Attorney Kemp's allegations were without merit. It took two years. But he had so much conviction that we had to have an evidentiary hearing on January 24th the last year.

And he provided this affidavit of Mother's Holdings, wherever it is. to find it. Here it is. Yeah. Right. So he provided this as evidence, almost to brag. And why would an attorney do that unless it were true? So like he kind of in my mind validated the whole point that I make in the book and in the video is if you start with $8 million and you spend $14 million and then you have $11 million left. Yeah, that's some special math. Yeah. But then others have said, Maybe your mother is a investment genius. Well, then where's the investments? Then where?

Well, okay, but Kenny Kemp would like you to not see what doesn't exist. You know, just like for years, he said, oh, your father never had a trust. Your father only had one trust, and it was dated August 5, 2013. And then when on my own, I found dad's trust, oh, that trust was never funded. And then when we found that it was funded with a million and a half in life insurance, oh, but those checks were never made payable to the John D. Smith Trust. And then when we found that they were made payable with John D. Smith Trust is... She just deposited him in the...

Oh, she made a mistake. Oh, she never meant to deposit them in her own account, and she didn't find out that mistake for nine years. Pass the statute of limitations for... Who knows? So, like, in Kenny Kemp and Mrs. Fran Smith's world, oh, I didn't steal that money. Oh, it's not $30 million. It's $8 million.

But how have you spell this money? Oh, I got a B-Quest. Really? Where's the paper trail from the B-Quest? Well, there is no paper trail, you know, it's, and thus, that's why I think this would make a great, great documentary, a Netflix. I mean, it's too bad Telly Savalas is dead. Kenny Kemp, Telly Smallis, now, Telly was much taller,

but they got the bald head. I mean, like, think of a guy that's five foot two that's bald. I mean, besides, oh, can you flash up? Let me talk about the shirt, by the way, because I've been acute, there we go. Okay, so zoom in on this. I think we're almost done. All right.

So back in 2020, 21, these are, can you read those? Yeah, and that's Kenny Kemp on the left, not that I have anything against bald guys. It's just bald dishonest attorneys. So those are three lies that he told. So there was a hearing in September 2020, and there's two trusts.

There's my dad's 1998 trust, which is called the original trust. And then there's the second trust in 2013, the Forge Trust, that's called the amended trust. And so the judge says, Mr. Kemp, have you given Mr. Smith the original trust? And he goes, judge, I don't have the original. I don't know where it is.

And about 15 minutes go by, she asked same question. And he goes, judge, we gave him the original trust. Gave who the original trust? You? Yeah. First it's. So they handed you, they gave you the original? He testifies.

First he testifies. I don't have it. I don't know where it is. That's on page 29 of this transcript. And on page 35, she asked the same question. And he goes, judge, yes, we gave him the original. So when we are having a deposition, that's a fucking lie. We don't have it.

How do you give something you don't have? Right. That's one in the book I chronicle his... Let's assume for a second. Sorry, I hate to interrupt you. Let's assume for a second, he gave you. the original trust one why would you give someone i'm an attorney i have the original trust let's say you requested a copy why would i give you the original i wouldn't give i would never

give away the original there's two context to the word original though original versus copy is one context right in original versus amended is the context here okay so the original trust is the 98 trust the first trust. Right. The amended trust is the second trust. That's original and amended. But original could also refer to the original one that dad signed versus a copy. Right.

Right. So the language here in this hearing was not original and copy. The language was first trust in 98 called the original. Right. Second trust in 2013 called the amended. Okay. So the judge is asking about first trust in 98. second trust in 2013.

And I agree, it gets confusing. Right. The context is everything. But either way, like if Kenny Kemp said, oh, no, I was talking about original versus copy, it's still a lie. We don't have the original. I gave the original. Lie.

Right. Right. And it's in a transcript. Another thing, the second one down says, John D. Smith is not a beneficiary. John D. Smith is not a beneficiary of the 1998 trust. You see that? Yeah. All right.

And that's sourced in Kenny Kemp's affirmative defenses. And there's many times he says that. And then in email, the third one, it says, it is without question that John D. Smith is an interested person in the estate. Wait a sec. How could I be an interested person if I'm not a beneficiary? Right. That's a lie. Yeah.

Right. Well, and the document itself shows you and your sisters were. Yeah. But the whole point of this, the last five years, I had to go and find the 1998 trust on my own with no help. Kenny Kemp never gave it to me. They always said, oh, we don't have it. Oh, it's been destroyed. Oh, it's been dissolved. And these are all lies that I put into the book. So I thought it would be funny. I'm at a deposition of me. And I know he's going to be sitting across from me. So I just thought it was. You know, kind of funny. And I'm, look, I don't know if you've sensed I'm kind of outraged and I'm kind of, maybe not vindictive. But, you know, what's in the character of someone that has the idea of wearing a, I call him, protest shirt? Right. It's my First Amendment protest shirt, sitting across from the very guy that uttered these lies.

I just thought, oh, and I took it a step further, although this didn't make it. Kenny Kemp, he's a short guy, but he also goes, he graduated from University of Miami, and if you've known anyone that went to UM, their mascot is known as Sebastian. It's an ibis, University of Miami, the hurricanes, right? And Kenny Kemp, in his Facebook profiles, he wears this big ibis gold chain. And the ibis, like, you know, like a rapper would wear. Right. Except his is a University of Miami ibis.

And to mock him, I bought a cheap ibis and had it under my shirt. And I was hoping, like, you know, I would lean over and it'd come flopping out. But I never, I figured, you know, just having it that was mocking him enough. So I wore this shirt. And then based on this shirt, he filed a suit for, defamation. I'm defaming him with his own words. So now, uh, uh, pull up the baby. Right. So flash forward to, yes, baby Kenny. And it really kind of looks like him too. I, I mean, look, they're about same height. Um, so now I am I defaming him by comparing a, a 20 inch tall

baby to, you know, a five foot one oompa lumpa guy? Maybe. Maybe. Maybe not. But if it looked like him. But if it walks like a duck. So. So, so last February 4th, there was a deposition in this defamation uh, uh, uh, ridic, uh, you know, trial process.

And they requested me to bring that shirt that I wore. well i didn't know like you know a shirt in may they want nine months later right i pitched the shirt yeah there's no reason out of the shirt right or maybe i had washed it a bunch of times and it just shrunk and so when they asked for the shirt i was like i'll get you the fucking shirt and so you know this is my creative mind it's a metaphor right you know hey kenny's crying i defamed him with his own words so I put the same image on the shirt and then I had a little bit of entertainment on my phone I had rigged up a crying baby

right you can get a ringtone that's a crying baby right and so I at a certain point now Kenny wasn't there his attorney was there and his attorney his name it's a great name what is it's a it's a name of esteem and prestige and money. So his first name is Asher. His middle name is Ellsworth. And his last name, it's phonetically Knipe, like C-A-N-I-P-E. So look, I have the world's most common name. Who should I be, I shouldn't be critical of anyone. But to name your kid, Asher,

And then what do kids call them for short? Like, Ash? Right. Or Ellsworth, Ellsworth. No, no, no. Stop, you know, stacking the firewood in tens. Come in. It's time for dinner.

Anyway. So Asher is the opposing attorney. And he's like, do you have the shirt? And my attorney's like, my former attorney. Yes, I had him bring the shirt. And at that cue, I called the phone. the crying baby alert goes off right i reach into my backpack shut off the phone look when someone pisses you off and takes advantage of your father you know this is the way i kind of vent a little bit

they want the shirt i give them the goddamn is that not the shirt that is the shirt that is the shirt look so you pull the baby out pull the baby out and he goes look if my attorney had a gun and murder was legal, I'd be dead. Look, in my old attorney's guy, he about, because he had promised the guy the shirt. Yeah. And I had conveniently not said anything. Right.

So Asher was like, oh, wait until I tell the judge. Well, at my defamation trial, I am going to present, you know, a 2023 version of the baby. because I'd rather they hear it from me these are all lies and you don't defame someone with their own words that's kind of crazy

so anyway so why is he so he's just trying to wear you down and bankrupts you and well no it's worked I'm indigent and and

that's why since I can't afford to pay my attorney anymore you know think of the last person that Kenny Kemp and also my mother would want to be questioned under oath me right i'm i don't know if you picked up on it maybe i'm a little naturally adversarial uh-huh right see it yeah and so you know mr marcella so you visited the client at his home on his deathbed and and you get your notice stamps here and yet you're witness says they initialed every page, and every page is not initial. An attorney is going to be outraged that some amateur is questioning them, but I think a jury

would be really interested to hear from the victim's son. And so, you know, ultimately, if I'm going to lose in court, I'm going to lose doing my best to honor my father in front of a bunch strangers. Right. And I'll take those odds. I don't think my attorney, he already told me, he doesn't dunk on opposing attorneys. And I think there's a link between my mother's attorney's lifestyles and the fees they charge, but there's not enough money in the state of $8 million to be able to afford these attorneys. So either they work for free or the estate was way more than $8 million. If it was way more than $8 million, what does that say about all the attorneys and what's say about mother.

Right. Or she's got these, or she's done amazing things with her investments and then also just not told the IRS about it. Yeah. Her, yeah, she started with $4 million.

She didn't spend it. And she invested this $4 million. And in the last 10 years, including a couple years of the worst market ever, she not just doubled, not tripled, not quadrupled, not quintupled. She's six times. Yeah.

Yeah, that's... In our 70s. In our 70s with no training, that has as much logic as my father's saying... And not disclosed it to anyone. And there's no paper trail. And, you know, the greatest thing about 706. And I sent this video, by the way, to Kenny Kemp, Chris Marcella, Bruce Green, a bunch of what I would call incompetent accountants, you know, that, and not one of them sued me. And I have

unflattering things. I call, you know, the accountant Kim Prove. So this is her work, right? It's unsigned, this tax return. There are spreadsheets inserted in it. A spreadsheet. Why would someone put a spreadsheet of this? Why not have, in a life insurance policy, There's a certain thing that's a tax form. I forget the number. Why not have those? You know, spreadsheets are kind of right for fraud. What's most interesting about 706 is,

so there's a spreadsheet on dad's alleged, okay, handwritten notes in a 706 that you file with the IRS, sloppy, sloppy. So there's a spreadsheet purporting to have dads, and here we go. Dad's stocks and bonds. Now, before he died, he entrusted to me a number of his Charles Schwab 1099s. And I've done analysis comparing them to this.

And like none of these are in the Charles Schwab, like, you know, 90% of Charles Schwab is not shown here. Now, why would someone leave out multimillion dollars from Charles Schwab? Well, why would someone deliberately under-report the thing? Well, I was going to say, too, and your mother, the one providing all this information yeah like a spreadsheet why not have a 1099 well a spreadsheet's ripe for fraud um and this is the quality so just keep in mind if if anyone out there is thinking of fucking over the irs god it's so easy to fuck them over all you have to do is start with 30 million tell them 8 million and hope they don't figure it out for 5 or 6 years well she's good

it's good you know what she's doing she's a gangster it was just an accident. It's all just an accident. So what is ultimately the goal? Let's assume that you go to the two lawsuits and you prevail. What is, what would be like the ultimate goal? Well, all that I can hope to prevail is to recover my attorney's fees. Right. You know, in life, you know, if I have my father's longevity. You know, I have 17 good years, right? I would love, I would love that some producer documentary says, wow, what a great story. Like a little old lady, like you were the Bonnie and Clyde a mortgage fraud, right? You know, so think of, uh, um, think of a little old lady that is the mastermind of a crime syndicate that hoodwinked the IRS. Um,

You know, think of all the fun titles. I don't know if there's any kind of famous, you know, grandmas in criminal history that get away with fraud. But I think most people would go like, wow, she fooled a lot of people. But I think the thing that ultimately is her downfall, like a lot of fraudsters, is the spending. The spending, and that's why I went through it briefly, But if you only have 8 million, if you only have 8 million, how do you spend more?

Right. That is something that there is no answer for. And that's why, like my previous attorney Scott, he never made a big issue of mother spending. I feel like I could try either case with five witnesses. and win. Chris Marsala, the attorney that created the amended trust that never was hired by dad.

Can you imagine someone that your family didn't hire shows up at your doorstep and has a new trust that steals all your family money and gives it to a third party? And no one, Judge Laboda, magistrate Bocelli, no one says, wait a sec, wait a sec, where was the signed, you know, A letter representation between Mr. Smith and attorney Marcella, and no one cares about it.

Right. Yeah. So, you know, ultimately, if I win, I get really nothing. I get made whole with all the attorney's fees. To me, the ultimate victory would be sharing my story with the world. And having, you know, I think that most people in the public, look, everyone's against me. Right.

And my parents, you know, my mom's side of the family is the Sensky. And guarantee they're only seeing her side. Not one person. And there's a lot of like, oh, we go to church every Sunday. There's a lot of pious people. Not one of them. They're the worst. Yeah.

Not one of them has said, wait a second. Why would Mr. Smith? Why would Smitty change his trust 16 days? That doesn't make any sense. you know, no one has, and that's to me the power of, you know, it's the, there's a chapter in there of the, because I analyze the two million dollars that she donated charity. I actually run it down. There's about a million a half to Dad's College, John Carroll University. On the phone a couple years ago, as soon as I say, oh, this John Smith son of, you know, John Smith, he's, oh, hey, blah, blah, blah, nice talk. Yeah, I was just calling to say, you know, how much money have you gotten from, you know, Mom, Mary, Friends, Smith? Oh, well, hold on, Zach, let me, blah, blah, blah, but, oh, you know, it was $1.5 million. Great. Oh, thank you. Can you give me the dates and amounts? I'm just trying to clear up some, you know, I'm trying, you know, the million and a half wasn't on the IRS tax return.

Call back three days later. You know, we don't have, you know, the same person by now she's spoken to mom. oh you know we don't have anything and she's really uh and i put that in the video in the book her memory becomes distant uh so there's a lot of subterfuge what i would love i mean really the only thing i have is my story right and the big question i mean what do you think matt do you think people out there do you think your viewer i mean do you think we'll get any views do you think viewers are going to go oh man that happened to me too well i mean i think it happens a lot i think like you know i said i think it happens a lot more than people realize you know there's a house that's in dispute there's people argue over it they start changing ds they start

running up credit cards they start you know the person in control ends up funneling money to themselves you know that sort of thing um and you know and you know and in my mom my mom's case my my sister handled all the money that was involved and everything she's in as far as i can tell she's been you know amazingly um yeah very very very everything's very like she's always ready to be like look here's what this is here's what happened here's the here's this so here's what i did with it you know more more than fair and and it's not like she's charging for it like you know in her opinion she's like well you know i have the time and i this and that and she was always you know great great there with my with my mother handled everything for like

my mother couldn't have had a better representative um but in and a lot of people's case cases i see things you know people taking advantage of a situation um and and i even when i was in prison i saw guys that were in prison trying to figure out how to get like get their you know my my their mother was sick or their dad was this and how do i get this and how do I get that and was always like you know like bro what are you what are you doing you know what I'm saying like I mean or you know my or or even worse either they're trying to figure out how to get the house out of their parents name into their name because it's it's their inheritance like yeah both your parents are still alive you know what are you doing or it's my

my dad died and I just found out that my sister a month later sold the house like how is that possible I'm like well is there a will he's like no she's no no there was no will like i even asked what he got sick like what is there what does the will say and it's like well how did how did they get the house out of your father's name into her name or i had somebody one time where a mother had died and the brothers the siblings were trying to sell the house out from underneath like another sibling you know like there's all these different things that happen when when when a parent dies and there's no clear um there's no clear um instructions left but you know the problem is is that the court if there's instructions and it's even if it

it none of it makes sense they typically go with the instructions even though it's so easy to alter the instructions you know what I mean like it's very easy and they're like well we got a sign document that's it it's like wait a second this doesn't make sense like look at what just happened they don't a lot of times they don't they just don't want to look at it they don't you know they don't let's face it the judge doesn't have a stake in it he doesn't give it crap and the people that are representing your family are other attorneys that he sees all the time well in my mother's case and i think this happens with everyone people will say well john how did your mother get why was this

forged trust such a vehicle, and I think it worked like this. Forge trust, if mother had taken, because like dad, the majority of dad's wealth was in his liquidity, meaning, you know, Fidelity, Charles Schwab. He might have had a million dollars in cash, but in his mind, cash isn't earning. Right. Right. So he had stocks and bonds, because that's earning and growing. So mother, the whole point, the whole reason why, and I think for her it was like, oh my God, you know, this was the game plan all along. And then he gets, he makes the turn and he doesn't know where he is. And suddenly her, and I guarantee you my sisters knew about it, but family fraud is not publicized. So the whole reason why this trust was so important was

she goes to Charles Schwab and she goes, hi, this is my husband's trust. You see, I'm the trust. and they, you know, look at it, they send it, scan it and send it to their attorneys. Okay, yes, yes, all right, we see you're the 100% trustee. Yes, and now I would like you to transfer $10 million to this account. So the fraud, the forged trust was everything. If she didn't have that, then she goes in with his trust. And right away, his trust makes his bank, the trustee. And they, and also, if you were to read his,

His trust, his trust says, any time she wants to make a major purchase, she has to go to the bank, and they can say no. Right. And I think for 15 years, for whatever reason, it just graded on her. You know, any other wife of 47 years would say, okay, I don't agree with it, but, you know, till death do us part, I'm going to follow his wishes, because after all he is, give me $15 million. Right. Right. And for whatever reason, it had to have been like, oh, I put up with his, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, and he only gives me half $15 million. And now granted, for the last 10 years, she spent $250,000 a year, two and a half million in 10 years. He gave her six times that, and it wasn't enough. And this is the subtlety, what I would hope, you know, if there were a movie, if there were, you know, someone listening. And they're like, oh, this would make a great news story. This happened. everywhere. That's why I put the AARP article saying family fraud is so common in the forward of the book. If this story gets out there, that would be the justice. Because look, I know I'm

going to lose the lawsuit. Big, you know, stolen money beats honest money. And, you know, at most, I'm going to pot shot, you know, but if there was interest and if people, show up in the gallery. You know, look, I'm going to make a spectacle of myself. The first shirt has three lies. The new shirt has seven. The first baby has three lies. The new shirt has Kenokio on it. And I think if people, look, I am mocking him, of course, but it's based in truth, right? And then, of course, can you imagine I wear the shirt and the judge says, you need to take it off? No, I'm not taking it off. Can you imagine? You know, my rights under the First Amendment being...

Yeah, yeah, it's a slippery slope for the judge. Yeah, you can't, you can't, yeah, this is a protest. Yeah, and I have the right to do it. Hey, he can sue me, but look, I'm here because I wore a shirt. He said this. It's a lie. Right. No matter how you slice it.

And look, it's not just one lie. It's 40 of them. Right. Yeah. Also, the bar has rules that say, a lawyer shall not knowingly make a false statement. I complained to the bar and they said, oh, well, you're going through a case,

we can't intervene. The bardom and enforce their own rules. I even complained to the chief judge. So I plan to call the chief judge as a witness in the defamation case. They're going to love that. I'm going to subpoena him to say, okay, all right, you have these standards, right?

You have blah, blah, blah. And so you don't want an attorney to lie. Okay, so did you get my complaint? Is this the complaint? Is this your answer that says you're not even going to look into it? Right. What's the point of having standard? And the whole point is squeak wheel gets the oil.

If I make a big enough pain in the ass of myself, maybe, I mean, wouldn't it be crazy if Kenny Kemp, if some authority said, that's a goddamn lie. You know, consequence. So I'm probably not going to win anything. I'm probably going to lose, but I just want to go the distance like Rocky. Nice. All right. Let's wrap it up there. Is that good?

The final thing I would say is you ought to do a plug for the free download. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you get a free. So you, let's hold up the book. So I've got. How do they, how do they, how do they? get it. This camera? Okay. Yeah. This camera. So if you want a free download of the book, what you do is you go to the link below in the description box and you click on the link. It will bring

you to family feud.com. Dot net. Family feud. Family fraud. Family fraud.net, which is the link. Just click on the link. And if you go on the site, my logo is on the the site you can click my logo and you go and fill out the information and you get a free download for the book family feud fraud fuck oh you know what's funny but say it again family you get a free you get a free download of family fraud here if it's any consolation and by the way i you know look i'm a total amateur i designed the cover myself yeah but i love family fraud The fraud, there's actually a font that is spelled out in money. Okay.

Yeah. So fraud is, is in $100 bills. I don't know what the font is. Also, can you see my, can you see the hangman? Can you read the words? The hang man? On my shirt. Oh, my God, bro.

What are you to? I see the end is, is, oh, is it screwed? Yes. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was not, I was wearing a blue shirt. but I just thought... Did you put that on there?

Not at the time, but when I was designing the cover, I thought it was really fitting. You know, the missing letter is E. Yeah. Yeah. And so, look, I want the average reader to think three things. Number one, there is no effing way this is true. Right.

And my currency is truth. All the names, look, I name all my mother's dishonest attorneys. I name all her incompetent accountants. I name my sisters at the end of the book. So number one, my currency is truth. Number two, and by the way, I don't know if you know if a penny fell out of the book. So there is a story in there that's the God's honest truth.

It's called Dad's Pennies. I think it's on page 12 or 13. So after Dad died, this penny fell out of this section. The e-book, you'll be robbed of this. The paperback has the penny in it. But there's a story that all of us kids experience right after dad died. We would find pennies in the oddest places. So my little story was I was driving down to West Palm Beach for stormstop,

like a stormstop or delivery or something. And I got a flat tire. My right front tire went flat. I pull into a service station and I bring the guy out. And there sitting on top of the tire is a goddamn penny. Right. It made no sense. How did the penny get there?

And when I told it to my family, because I was then in contact with them, they said, oh, that's one of dad's pennies. And it was when we talk about dad's pennies, we would find penny. Even now, when I see a penny, I'm like, oh, hey, dad, and I see it. Right. It's, it was thought and suggested that, you know, spiritual, you know, dad is showing his presence. So that's, that's in the, in the book. So look, I wrote it out of love, a little bit of anger, and I hope three things. Someone reads it and says, there's no way it's true.

Number two, they laugh. There's a fair amount of humor. And number three, they learn something or some things. and they say wow he has a lot of great ideas on how to protect a family member that's vulnerable that may be non-obvious okay so all right thanks for having me on yeah no thank you i appreciate you making the drive um so if you like the video do me a favor hit the subscribe button hit the bell so you get notified of videos just like this share the video leave a comment and go to the description and get a free copy of the book family fraud family fraud and i appreciate you guys

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