Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast - WILL MRBEAST GO TO PRISON? | Fraud Experts Explain

Episode Date: August 20, 2024

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He's building wells in Africa. Even the philanthropy work is all bull. All they need is two other guys to get on the stands and say, nah. He knew we had a conversation about it, even if they never did. They're doing something that makes you appear guilty, probably because you are guilty in some way. I mean, listen, basically, Jimmy's lifelong friend fucked up his whole operation. I think he was in a position in the beginning where, you know, because of the atmosphere of the environment we live in in this country, where you can't say anything even remotely bad about the LGBTQ community. Don't give a shot of man.

Or else you get completely destroyed online. Right. your career's over, your life's over, you know, you can't get on a public bus. You can't take a cab anymore. They take away your birthday. It's all over with. He has to. So he has to do the right thing by saying.

So in the beginning, he was like, oh, I have nothing but support for my friend. If he wants to transition, I'm here to, because, you know, whether he felt that way or not, that's what you have to do publicly. That may be true. And it probably is true because, like you said, they've been friends since the very beginning, Chris Tyson started Mr. Beast with him. I'm sure they're friends, you know, but it was like. And you don't know how he does, at that moment, he didn't know how.

how far this is going to go. Right now, well, at that moment, see, that's the controversy is we don't know how much he knew in the beginning. Did he know about, you know, the, all of the allegations that Chris was on the Discord servers, you know, talking to underage kids about sexual content that is wildly inappropriate. Right. You know, in that, I think, is the very first, that's where it all started. That's where the timeline starts is the Discord server.

well actually it's the transitioning that was like the big what the is going on here right you know what I mean you have a kid family you have a friendly family kid show where you you know all of your content is geared towards children and towards minors and one of the main cast decides to switch his gender right in the middle

of an operation okay that in itself right there if nothing else came out that in itself as enough controversy to tank the show and then all of the beans just started spilling out of the jar and as as You know, the proverbial bean starts peeling out of the jar.

And the more, it's just layers and layers and layers now like an onion. And the deeper we go, the more the more crap we find out about, you know, employees being underpaid, people being mistreated, multiple self-offenders being employed by Mr. Beast, unsafe work environment, just all kinds of crazy shit's coming out now. Did you just say faking the results or faking the... I didn't, but that's another, you know, another big thing is all the videos are apparently. fake all of the challenges are BS he was he had friends of his that were supposedly uh you know random people that were participating in the in the challenges and he would just let them win and give them money like there's CGI being used I mean it's all fake it was all BS it's all just for views clicks and money whereas in the beginning we thought everybody thought that this was all

genuine that Jimmy is a philanthropist you know he's doing all these great things for the world he's building wells in Africa he's building he literally he literally was not true he literally literally is building wells and I'm sure he did I'm sure he helped a lot of people with the philanthropy work but if you look into the philanthropy work a little bit deeper there's even controversy there

and we can get into that a little bit later if you like right it's really just the PVC pipe four feet in the ground connected to a water jug and a pump they connected to a speak they got a hose this dug and it's look how wonderful

and they're filling up jugs. And then they leave and it's, you know. So, well, first of all, how do you not know that your buddy's gay or is transgender or how do you like suddenly this just happens? Like this is something he's had to have known about. Like I mean, your buddy, you're not hanging out with your buddy. Well, he started painting his fingernails. Before you went full transition, like if you go back and watch videos from like a year, two, three years ago, he started painting his fingernails. He started growing his hair out longer.

He's wearing dresses. His speech got his, he started talking a little bit more feminine. Like, but when, when Mr. Beast first started, he was a manly man. Right. He had a wife, a kid, you know, a wife, kids, a family, you know, he had a beard. He was, you know. Yeah, yeah, it was a guy's guy. And now, and then slowly.

Well, he went the opposite direction. Got it. Yeah. Decided to play for the other team, which is fine. You know, I'm not saying anything's wrong with that. I'm saying anything's wrong with that. Please don't shout to give me shout a man. have the balls to become a woman, you know, then I tip my hat to you, sir.

But, um, I know, but that's where it all started. That's, you know, we're all with all of the controversy. Do you get a surgery or do we not know? He's pre-op. I think, I think is the, uh, the correct terminology. Yeah. He's pre-op. So he's, he's, uh, he's, uh, you know, he's, um, exploring himself in this newfound, uh, uh, situation.

The two channels that broke the news, one has like 800 subscribers. to this day and has like 2,000 subscribers. I got 50,000 views. It's like this kid sitting in a part. It's like been doing all this research on like Chris Tyson situation and somehow, and he knew about this guy who had been, you know, quote unquote, groomed

in the Discord, this guy, put her name's the lava. They set up an interview for an editing job and got this guy on the interview for the editing job and that's how they got, like, the first information to make this video is like this guy thought he was doing an interview interview for editing YouTube like oh yeah we heard you work for Mr. Beast and this guy basically says

that yeah this guy was hiring for editing editing but we were interviewing him to get information and then they kind of got all that information that initial that initial spark and that's when the guy backed Chris Tyson and he's like no like I wasn't agreeing with all this kind of stuff they tried to minimize it they tried to minimize it and clean it all up like oh I just made a couple of off off color jokes that might may have been inappropriate when when really it was it was way deeper than that yeah because there was no chat at first and there like oh like he didn't do anything like it's fine and Chris gets on Twitter he's like yeah like this guy's saying nothing happened and then like a day later someone came out from the

discord is like I have all the chat log and dropped all the chat logs and the guy immediately doubled back he's like I didn't remember all this this these things were inappropriate these things were wrong and there's a whole separate situation with Chris where he has like openly supports a I think they call it lolly artist this artist he's known his his main When he draws his pretty much CP. Okay. This artist was beefing with somebody else online, some kind of online beef, some kind of troll beef or whatever.

The artist went on the dude's social media profile, found his children, took his children, and drew his children in, like, sexual, disgusted. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So that just goes, you know, that's the kind of character of the individual that, now, Chris Tyson, he bought a poster from this, from this. from this artist and said that we know I love this artist I love his work this is going to be the centerpiece of our living room and they put they put the poster on the living room wall

in in the apartment that he was living with Jimmy right now and he's there's pictures photos of him of him what looking at the pictures old videos that Jimmy made sitting in his kitchen you can see the poster on the wall in the background right they went back and they scrubbed all of that they got it's all white with like a big no it's all white now right they went back and they either cut out all the parts of Jimmy being in front of that poster or they cut the poster out in post automatically. I've seen screenshots of him

standing next to him looking at the poster staring at the poster being next to the post so they didn't do a great job because there's a bunch of screenshots somebody screenshots the shit out. So that's that's controversy in and itself. Now I know he's been going back and he's been deleting negative comments from all the videos

now I know you can set YouTube to do that automatically. Just look for certain keywords and if the keywords pop up they just take the they take the comment off automatically um now they were go they went back on i don't know if it's the way back machine or what they're using to kind of scrub all of mr beases are all of mr beasts posts and videos but they can go back and they were they were going back and showing like this video used to be 15 minutes long right it's now 12 right this video used to be 17 minutes long it's now 13 how is that is that possible to clip a chunk out there are like archa there are websites

It's dedicating to, like, preserving internet history. I think they kind of like a still shot of this day. Well, there's way back machine. I know it was one of them. But it's like a still shot of this day. Everything that was up this day. Right. And then you can kind of go back and look at the pages.

Can you go back and edit your videos without taking them down? Without having to re-upload them? Like, say I uploaded this video and we uploaded like a minute where we wanted to cut out after it's uploaded. I could go in there and cut it out. Two hours would be gone. So that's what they've done. Essentially, that's what Mr. Beas has been doing to all of this. videos they've been going back and they've been just cutting out anything that can be used as fuel

for the for the fire for all of these new controversies that are coming up well that's i mean that's conscious of guilt you know what i'm saying like like like if you just said i haven't done anything wrong you can look at what everything i did i could justify everything but if you start going out going and actively remove you're basically removing evidence that paints you in a bad light that and they have proof he's been doing it right that's that's uh that's conscious of guilt you know that's you're doing something that makes you appear guilty yeah probably because you are guilty and some way. You know what's funny is that the communicating with

the 13 year old kid, right? Because I think he was 13. It's inappropriate. Whatever was being, whatever was being saying was extremely inappropriate. Let's say it was completely appropriate. But you knew the kid was 13. Mary Shelley's friends have stopped by. She has a

guy friend who thinks I'm super cool, right? Like I got a YouTube channel. You know, he's a kid. And he's 16 years old. And he came by a few months ago, had gotten a new car. like, hey, what's going on? I'm like, hey, Michelle is not here. And he's like, hey, he said, well, I got a new car.

And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's cool. That's cool. And you could tell he kind of wanted me to come out and look at the car. I was like, okay. I was like, well, yeah, she's not here, bro. I said, I'm kind of doing stuff. Yeah. I wasn't really doing anything.

And I was just like, I hear you. I have no desire whatsoever to interact with children. You could tell that he definitely was bored and lonely and was wanted to come in. If I said, hey, you want to come in and talk for you. Because you could tell he wanted to come in. Yeah. It's almost that kind of like he's ready to walk in and I'm standing in front of the door. And I was like, look, I'll tell you you came by, cool the car, that's great.

But all I could think of was she's not here, your friend's not here, you need to go. And I'm not, and this kid's like 16 years old. I'm not hanging out with you with a 16 year old or a 15 year old or a 15, damn sure not hanging out with a 13 year old. We're not going to be sitting on the couch. We're not going to be watching a movie. We're not going to be hanging out. None of that. Unless there's another adult.

president not interested i have nothing there's there's no common ground there's nothing to talk about i hear you so i don't know why you would think it was okay to one have that come have a or one be interacting with that kid because i guarantee his father would be like what are you doing talking to my 13 year old son right like i don't care if it's a sexual or not what are you doing and and truly you're a gay guy talking to a 13 year old boy about sexual content that'll get you shot you know what i'm saying like, that'll get you f*** up. Like, you know it's inappropriate. Yeah.

I don't care if, oh, they never did anything. I don't give a fuck. Yeah. Any grown man knows better. So. Yeah, you don't interact with children, you know, unless it's at a time that, you know, needs the interaction. Like, you don't just seek out children to talk to. Right.

Yeah. Like, I could see if there was, you know, if Jess's daughter was here with a couple of her friends and they're here and they're here and they're playing and that you need to be having an adult and you're working on your stuff. But I'm not going to go sitting. I'm not sitting in the room with them, you know, actively. having a conversation like yeah you're just little kids yeah that's weird yeah it's just it's that's that's that's that's that's predator behavior well period right and for you know jimmy or mr beast to kind of know these things are going on and not say the fuck are you doing that's inappropriate and even if you say hey it's even if you think well whatever it's it's not it's

not appropriate but it's not my place let's say you're some weirdo and you think oh well it's not my place to really correct him or anything. It doesn't matter, bro. You work for me. You reflect on what I'm doing. I can't have you doing this. This is going to come down on me. Right.

And it's not like he was just one of those employees that was on the peripheral that's only been there a few months. Yeah, your, motherfucker, you've been here since the very beginning. You're a part of the brand. He's part of the brand. Right. Yeah, he's part of the brand. So, yeah, that's the shenanigans that was going on in the very beginning, you know.

And then there was Delaware. I don't think we've even brought that up yet. No. There was a gentleman that goes by the name of Delaware, which wasn't his real name, but they call him Delaware because all of the crimes he committed on a person between the ages of 1 and 11 were committed in Delaware where he can never return to. So it was kind of a running joke that they were going to call him Delaware. And Jimmy got caught calling him Delaware on camera. Right. And he's wearing a face.

Of course, they put a mask on him and called him Zorro because they didn't want people to look up his picture on the SREG registry and see his photo. and see that he was working for Mr. Bees, so they stuck a mask on him, which is an admission of guilt. Like, you knew his background then. If you changed his name and put a mask on him, you knew his background. Right. Especially if you're calling him Delaware, then you knew exactly what was going on. Well, it's funny, they just had a whole, they had that whole thing on Disney, right, that came out on Disney, Nickelodeon. Like, the people from Nickelodeon, some of those people ended up getting fired or quitting and then going to work for Disney.

It's like, what are you doing? You know, you're offended. You shouldn't be working in this environment. You shouldn't know about it. And if you let him go and then he turns around and goes at Disney, you hired him. You knew about it. Like, what are all of you people do? Oh, well, he's a good.

He's good for sound. He does our sound. Like, I don't give a fuck. Like, what are you doing? It's only a matter of time before that guy ends up locked up in Coleman for Todd for Dillon somebody. Yeah. I mean, you hired a registered defendant that you knew was a registered offender.

And look, I don't have. In a children that's marketed in a show that's marketed to children. Listen, a registered offender, that's fine. You can do my drywall. You can paint the house. There are things that you can do. You can be a mechanic. There's plenty of jobs.

You can work in a factory. You don't get to work around kids. And as a registered, you should, you know, right, and you know better. So if you're seeking those jobs out, there's a specific reason. You're trying to put yourself in a position to where you can have access to children. Right. It's certainly not because, oh, well, I do sound for your productions. Right.

There's lots of productions that don't have 12-year-old kids walking around. Yeah. So you're going out, you went to Nickelodeon, and then you went to Disney, or you went to the Mr. Beast podcast. Like, there's something going on. You're targeting these environments where you can be surrounded by children. Yeah. You know, and for Mr. Beast to not know that, like everybody saw that Nickelodeon. Just you say he's absolutely complicit in all of this, I think is absolute poppy cock.

Well, no, he is, you're saying complicit. He is complicit. He is complicit. You're saying he just said he's not. If he wasn't in complicit in all of this, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure he, yeah, he had to it. He is.

What that came out was that this guy sat down with Mr. Beast and his mom who, like, helped manage the team these years ago when this guy came apart and, like, explained the whole situation. Basically, he pled guilty through these charges. It was fourth degree. Yeah. It's supposed to be taking off his record or something in the fall, but I'm sure people would wonder, like, why would somebody plead guilty if. From what I hear, Mr. Beasts, they're trying to get it expunged.

Like, Mr. Beast and his legal team are throwing all this money at it, trying to get the, trying to get all the charges expunged off the dues record. So you're so, you're some scumbags. So you're saying that it's, once again, she's 11 and you're 16 years old. Yeah. It's inappropriate. You know what I'm saying? Like, did you know that, oh, I could get in a lot of trouble for it? It doesn't matter.

You still knew it wasn't right. She's 11. And we're assuming. Pictures of the dude? That's given the guy. Have you seen pictures of Delaware? No. He looks like a creep.

Does he? He's a big old fat dude with a beard and he's fucking, you just, the perfect Choma, right? You just want to punch him right in the face. He just looks like one of those guys you want to just sock him right in his shit. Did you ever, you were there when, do you remember? So at Coleman, there's a, there's a, Coleman's of the prison, uh, Bozac and I were both at.

There's a, there's a ton of fucking offenders, right? Yeah. Um, there were some of them, but like, you just don't, you couldn't tell, right? They could be anybody. I palled around. with one of them for a year. He was undercover. Oh,

what was it? I played dominoes with the kid every single day. Oh, he was the one who said he was there for fraud. They always picked fraud too. They always say they were locked up for fraud. I created a credit card fraud. Yeah.

You couldn't really. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I was going to say, but there are some of these guys that are walking around that you're like, as soon as you look at them, you're like, you're a chomo. Like, I don't give a, what you're here for. There's a show charging. And either prior or it's common.

Like you look at them, you're like, are you out of your, they're fat, super, like a super fat guy, never, never done any physical activity, thick glasses, you know, unshaving, like exactly what you think. Yeah, just imagine the fat dude that works at the comic book store that plays Dungeons and Dragons. All day. Those are offenders. It looks like taking a shower in a week as hair all, all greasy. Yeah. Most of them are either autistic or they're, you know, borderline autism. It's, it's, yeah, they're, they're, and they'll justify it.

They'll try and justify what happened. Oh, you understand. She seduced me. She was eight. What are you talking about, bro? What are you talking about? You're a 40 fucking year old man. So, but yeah, so, I mean, you know, you're 16 years old, you know better.

And we're given, we're giving the benefit of the doubt that the girl was 11. That's, we're saying, one to 11, who knows, bro. Yeah, yeah. You know, and you got it. And you're 16. It was so bad they charged you as an adult. And now, oh, it's going to be expunged. Okay.

So why would someone plead guilty if they didn't do it? If you're 100% innocent, you don't plead guilty. No, no, not for that charge. No, not for that charge. I'm taking that to trial. Right, right. I'll go to the Supreme Court. Like if I have to.

Even if you lose and you went to trial as a sex offender, at the very least, you get to make the argument, I didn't do it. I went to trial. Yeah. I lost a trial. the government this, the government. And I'm not signing no registry, and I'm not registering for shit. So you motherfuckers, you just have to keep me in prison for the rest of my life.

I'm going to be, you guys are going to be having to chase after me because I'm not registering for anything. I got a buddy who, I got a buddy who literally, um, his brother will not register. What's so funny. He's guilty though. No, he's going to, you know what he did though? And this is funny because I heard heard this. Here's what he said he did. And this is, this is like he was, he was, he goes, he's homeless.

It's a homeless guy walking through all. an alleyway took a piss a little kid was sitting in their backyard and looked out and saw him

going to the bathroom as he's as he's finishing up the mom walked by and she says what's going on and she said

that man just you know and the mom wash and sees that the guy's putting himself up she doesn't quite know what's going on

now the little boy said he peed doesn't matter he flashed him nothing that the little boy wouldn't have seen in a men's room by the way

anyway keeps walking and she calls the police out. What? You know, that crossed my mind. It's like, get him.

Get that part out. So, so he was, he's walking through the hall, or down the alleyway, and they grab, and the cops show up and they grab him. This is what,

what's happening? He said, nothing. I was just back, what were you doing back there? I was taking a piss. And they're like, oh, little boy saw you.

They charge him. He gets arrested. Lawyer shows after, after he's been there a few days, says, look, take a plea. No big deal. You'll get probation. You'll get, you know,

it's not that big of a deal. He says, Okay. Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, you did do it. You did. Oh, okay. Signs it. He's supposed to go to get probation. And then when he goes to see his probation officer, he says, okay, you have to go register. And he says, what? Register for what? He goes, you have to register as a defender. And he's like, what are you talking about? He's like, what are you talking about? Yeah, it was in D6 exposure. That falls under the floor of registration. He's like, I just went to the bathroom in an alleyway. A little kid saw me. Like, I wasn't flashing him. I wasn't, I'm not a weirdo. I was just used. in the bathroom. They're like, yeah, no, but you already play guilty. Has never registered.

He's done years. He's done like five or six years. They won't register so they keep putting them warrants out. He gets arrested. He goes to jail for three months. Then it's six. Then it's nine. Then it's ten.

Then it's two years. Then it's three years next time. It just keeps going and going. He's done like five or ten years or something like that. He will not do it. Which is funny because my buddy said, he goes, which is amazing because he said, I'm actually proud of him. He goes, I've never seen him stick to anything.

life. He said he won't get a job. He won't do that. He said, he's a complete loser. He said, but he ain't registering. I'm like, you know, your life would be better. If you did, you wouldn't have to keep going to jail. He's like, I don't give a fuck.

I didn't do that. Yeah. Good for him. Fighting a good fight. Another wrinkle in this whole kind of certain situation, there's this creator, Jake, the Viking, he also used to work for Mr. Beath. Yeah. Okay.

And why all this was initially coming out, he was saying, like, Jimmy knew, just kind of like hammering down like that i've seen the tweets from uh jake yeah he came out he's like oh jimmy absolutely 100% knew everything beforehand yeah yeah and the and like he's going hard and now the delaware guy uh-huh is his brother-in-law oh yeah yeah no way yeah he came out with a thing basically it was almost like a press release like he you don't you know you don't understand he was 16 he was charged in his adult he didn't do this um you know he And he kind of explained, like, he's not, he's been back to Delaware several times. He doesn't, he said it's not, they don't call Delaware because he can't go back to Delaware.

It's because he's from Delaware. Like, he's, they're trying to clean it up. Yeah, he cleans up. He very much tried to make the whole situation seem very benign, which doesn't really make sense to me. It's not benign. Either way, as benign as it could be, as much of a misunderstanding as it could be. Yeah, I didn't know that was his brother-in-law. Yeah.

That's a whole new twist. Right. Well, even as much as, even if you could say, oh, hey, this has been taking out of context? Really? Okay. Tell me what the context is that you've got a offender working around children and you're actively trying to hide it.

Tell me about how that's taken out of context. Like, there's no way. You know what's happening. Yeah, this thing just keeps getting deeper and deeper. Right. So the whole thing is to run toward it. Like, you're running away from it isn't scraping this, scrubbing this, doing this. That's not the way to do it.

The way to do it is come out and say, look, I'll f*** up. Here's what I did. Yeah. Mr. Bees is cooked. Yeah. It's like sketch. Listen, nobody loves to see someone take a dive more than Bozy. I don't know what it is.

You know, I mean, I really, I'm not a hater. I swear to God, I'm not a hater. I really swear to God, I'm not. But when things like this happen, I just, I've been so happy ever since this whole thing started. I've been following every second of it. I've been watching every YouTube video because I just think it's the greatest thing. Yeah. To happen.

I think the downfall of Mr. Bees, because listen. But I want the best for people. No, because listen, you know, the philanthropy, the helping blind people see. You know, he had me convinced. Right. Honestly, no, one whole, 100% wholeheartedly, he had me convinced. You start thinking, I was on, I was on Team Jimmy when all of this started. I'm like, no, he's a philanthropist.

He's securing blind people. He's building wells in Africa. He's cleaning the trash out of the oceans. I mean, this is a, this is, come on now, Mr. It's all, it's all bullshit. Even the philanthropy work is all bullshit, if you look into it. What about, what was the other one where he stayed in a tent on a, raft or a week but he didn't but he didn't no he's like they were saying like oh we got to film real

videos jimmy was sleeping in a yacht that was floating probably 100 yards away from the raft yeah it's all yeah the so the faking of the videos we can get into that if you want to i mean that the faking of the videos now i originally thought they were all for real but i'm not that hard to i think i think we before we go into the let's let's wrap up i guess some of the sexual stuff for now right oh yeah yeah like mr beast did come out and he he he he did like an official kind of real corporate he fired chris tyson yeah chris tyson chris tyson said i'm stepping away and then like a day later mr bese like i let go of this guy right like a very corporate response and he hasn't responded since and kind of what he said i'm

absolutely disgusted yeah that was the official that was the the official releases like i cannot believe this happened i'm absolutely disgusted and appalled that you guys figured this out I really thought I had it covered So with these sexual things So let's go to Chris or Ava What do you think will happen if anything? Like do you think No nothing's gonna happen

Because there was nothing technically There were no laws broken technically I mean grooming That's even a law I think grooming is actually a law now So I mean if they really wanted to press the issue I'm sure they might be able to get them for that But I mean there was no

As far as we know There was no physical contact There were no laws Would the Discord not be, if he's sending to kids underage in a Discord chat? Oh, yeah. Like, there you go. Yeah, yeah, that's illegal. Yeah, that's illegal.

That's illegal. But we don't, but I hadn't heard that. I just heard that it was inappropriate. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, so if he was sending two children under the age of 18, then that's 100% illegal. Yeah. Yeah. And it doesn't matter.

Yeah. I think the issue with maybe the Discord chat and I don't know this 100% is like, I don't know if you can actually see the linked images because they would be linking images like in. the kids and since that whole discord server's been taken down yeah yeah and the kids of claim that's what it was you know they've saying that he they say corn like they've been sharing corn right uh thing so uh yeah well then that's illegal okay so yeah so hypothetically if this guy or girl or even call it goes to jail is he going to a female prison or is he going to a male prison he's going to me he's going to men's pre he's going to men's federal prison yeah this is in california where you're you get to say i'm a girl and they send you to the

women's prison. That's the state of California that does that crazy shit. And how would he be treated in federal prison? They'd send him to a low secure. The lows are now packed with the sex of it. He would have, he would have

admirers. He would get there and he would have chocolate on his bed and a new pair of sneakers and some sweats waiting for him when he got there. Yeah, they wouldn't be like you'll hear these guys you know, oh we defendants, we beat him to that we did well No, they fuck the offenders when they go in there and not by force.

Now, there are, there are something. There's still rules, right? Like, they're still ruled. Like, there would be, like, banned. Like, unless they go there and they're able to convince people that they're not there for that, like that's what a lot of them will come in and say, oh, I'm here for selling marijuana, but 90% of them say fraud. Because they think it's complicated and people won't understand it.

The problem is, do you start talking to a fraudster? And he's like, what? Like, that doesn't make sense. you know or even worse they get there and they say my lawyer told me not to talk about my my case show immediately immediately that's a mistake yeah so there's going to be certain parts of the prison that are just off limits to you yeah tv rooms a lot of the tv rooms they you go in there you're going to have to fight somebody's going they're both going to the shoe you know what I mean and there's guys in there that don't mind going and sitting in the shoe just you know if you come

you know what I mean like I'll take I'll take one for the team I'll just beat him up real quick and I'll go to the shoe I'll come back And the administration isn't that hard on those guys. Does that make sense? So you smash a defender. There's not necessarily a lot that's going to happen. You're going to go sit in the shoe for, what, 90 days? Yeah, max.

Yeah, max. I was going to say, used to be when I got there. First, it would have been like 90 days. But now maybe 30. Yeah, maybe a few weeks. A few weeks you'll sit there. They'll bring you back. They'll bring you back to the yard and that'll be it.

Yeah. And the guards are kind of like, you know, they're almost like a, hey, good for you. And so those guys also like they'll, they'll, They can't really, they'll have to have their own, their own, like, softball teams. Their own, they'll make their own band. They call them the show band. They'll have, like, a little band. If you want to join the band, you're not joining our band.

Like, these guys will, they'll be like 20 bands. But there's enough of them to where they have their own community. Correct. They have their own community. But they don't, they don't mix with the other guys. Remember, they'd all go down and play Dungeons and Dragons. Oh, yeah. They'd be like 10 of them and they're all playing Dungeons and Dragons.

They had a board. They had dice and everything made up. Listen, for some of these guys, and these aren't dice, these aren't dice that you bought, they bought. These are dice they would make the dice. Yeah. But the thing is, is that, like, for some of these guys, this is the first time they ever had friends in their lives. Yeah. This is, they have, now they have community.

They're around and like-minded individuals. As fucked up as that sounds, dude. Yeah. Yeah. So they're happy in there. They got friends to hang out with. You know, you see them smiling and paling around with other people on the yard. Federal prison is different than state.

state prison. If you're a state prison. State prisons for the peasants, that's where they all these, they send all the animals. Yeah. So if these, this guy, wait, you know, or grow, it's a they use, right? Yeah, I'm a I'm a muted anyway. If the, if this is somebody who grabbed a kid

threw him in the van, kidnapped them, did whatever they did, and gets charged with a state crime and goes to state prison, there's, he's got a he's got a horrific. There's a 50, 50 chance you might not make it out a lot. Yeah, exactly. In state prison as a offender. Yeah.

And what would determine whether it's federal state? Internet. You just said sending pictures back and forth. Anything you do online, it's federal. Yeah. They're going federal. Even if you were planning to meet up, if you accessed it online, it's federal. Right.

Yeah. At the beginning of this year, Kat Williams gave an interview where he said 2024 is going to be the year of exposure for everybody. And it has been. It's just been one after another after. P. Diddy. Like everything's coming out. Everybody's BS is coming.

Now everybody's getting exposed. And now the Mr. Beast thing's all coming out. So he wasn't lying. Like, 2024 is the year where everybody's bullshit is getting exposed. Oh, what was it? It's weird, weird how it's all happening. What was the, I was going to say, fucking weird.

The other thing that came out was, like, I wonder if about conspiracy. Like, I wonder if they could rope, could rope, you could, look, the federal government can do anything. The federal government said, you know what? We're going to call this a conspiracy and that Mr. Beast was a part of the conspiracy. We're going to invite him in multiple. They could do it. They won't do it.

No, it's never going to happen. Because it'd be such a stretch, and he could mount such a defense. He'd win it in court. He's a billionaire, yeah. Yeah. But if it was just Joe Schmo, some low-level guy that didn't have enough money to fight, the federal government would probably start indict indict six other people on the staff who'd say, you knew about this was going on, you knew this, you knew that,

get them all to start rolling over on each other, saying, yeah, Jimmy knew this, Jimmy knew that. And then they'd all have to start taking pleas because they don't have enough of a budget to hire a decent lawyer to fight them in court. But that's not going to happen here. So what would the conspiracy, what would the conspiracy be? Like, a conspiracy would be just like knowing and enabling the behavior. Conspiracy covered up.

Yeah. And covered up. It'd be, you'd be conspiring with you, knowing what you're doing, sending these photographs. I knew it. I hid, I had you working in this environment. I gave you access to these kids. Like, they can rope you into a conspiracy for anything. Yeah.

You can, you know, I never got on there. It doesn't matter. You knew he was getting on there. You knew what he was sending. You know, all they need is two other. guys to get on the stand and say no he knew we had a conversation about it even if they never did they'll get them well we'll drop the charges on you but you get on the stand and say that they had you were a part of this conversation i don't think anybody was surprised that they were faking a lot of

the videos like i don't even think that would mean they were and they said that everything was real but it came out that you know a lot of it's a BS a lot of it is staged a lot of it's scripted uh there's a lot of Like, when, oh, I put a Lamborghini in a, in a, in a crusher, apparently that was all bullshit. But the guy was talking about how, like, this isn't legal. Like, I don't know. Well, here's one that could potentially be illegal. So they had a Willy Wonka type of competition where you get a buy candy bar, you get a golden ticket to go to, you know, compete in this game. And one of the kind of fishy things were, you know, basically a sweepstakes.

I think if you wanted to, you could probably send in a letter to enter. And it's supposed to be at random. So there was... six or seven contestants and one of the persons was rumored to be Chris Tyson's cousin but one of the people

just so happened to be a YouTuber with 700,000 subscribers and in their video where they opened up the chocolate bar and got the golden ticket and things like that the dude asked his wife

he's like what do you have to say to what do you have to say to Mr. Beast and she says thanks Jimmy for picking us and he's like no it was completely random right

and she's like oh yeah I'm so excited so it's like Everybody's buying these chocolate bars to have a chance to enter into these videos when... Yeah, meanwhile, he's making millions of dollars in sales from all, from his product. Yeah, but he's really... It's rigged. And that's what the thing about all the lotteries is, is they were saying all the lotteries were rigged or they were illegal.

And they weren't illegal technically because, like, there's some kind of legal loophole with where you have to be, like, on a broadcasted network, network TV broadcasted for the lottery to be illegal. but since it was a YouTube video like there's a gray area that it's like entertainment or something it just feel it's still listen it still feels like fraud I mean I know fraud it feels like fraud

it's you know it's another thing is so I'll give you an example I grew up with these guys named the Coltas Frank Colta owned a bunch of gyms right I grew up with his sons and one time

I remember he had a big this is a big screen this is back in like the 80s right big screen TVs this is before flat screens these are big screen they weighed about a thousand pounds they're massive and I mean they're like three feet I've had to move a few of those things forget about it you just throw them in the trash so he um he had he bought a big screen TV and was taking people you had to what did you have to do oh you to buy like tickets so he was selling whatever two dollars a ticket and if once we get to this much it was like a raffle it was a raffle it was a raffle there's a raffle there's raffle i want to say it had something to do with putting in your friend's names for like who do you

know that might want to sign up to the gym like you do you pay this much and give us to or you can give us three leads something like that regardless um i believe his uh i believe frank colt was one of his best friends uh adrian ended up winning the tv winning the tv yeah yeah yeah and everybody knew it you know trit was like oh no no he just he just gave it to adrian i'm like so he's not he who won it And he was like, you know, because I'm going to like put in $2 or something like that. Trans like, save your money. Like, Adrian's getting that TV, bro. Like, you're, don't put in $2.

My buddy Trent Colta, his son. So, yeah, they just gave it away. I mean, you know, it's gimmicky, but you're taking in money. You're making money off of this false promise. Yeah, it's fraud. That's fraud. That's fraud. Yeah.

So the idea that he's... Whether or not you work for a broadcast company or not, when there's that much money involved, when you're making... of dollars from selling t-shirts and you say oh buy this t-shirt what was the lottery with the t-shirt when they got caught faking the signatures um yeah so they were doing a live stream which now they've all been scrub deleted on the internet you can't find them and see what i said that's really looks bad like whoever said oh let's take them off bro you look bad doing that yeah getting rid of evidence yeah you're getting rid of the evidence yeah so they had a live

where they're signing t-shirts live and they're giving away certain things and one of the things was like, okay, buy a shirt in the next five minutes and you have a chance to win this Xbox or whatever it is. And then five minutes. They're a PlayStation five minutes. Yeah, PlayStation five minute past, five minutes passes, six, seven minutes in. And then they say, okay, in the next 30 seconds, whoever buys is going to win this PlayStation. So all those people who just bought the last five minutes before, they're not, they, the five window, five minute windows passed and, you know, so they're just, you know, nobody got the, yeah, yeah, yeah, nobody won it. Well, nobody won it. Well, someone won it after the threshold. They said buy within the next five minutes. And then

they're saying and you're going to have a chance to get a search sign by mr beast himself like you know he's doing mb and then he showed chanler no it's uh it's another guy who's a channel some other guy yeah clearly wrote mb on the mr beast to show him in the camera right mr b's signature looked up at the camera and then covered it with his hands covered it passed it and the other guy looked got it looked and just like was looking around yeah i watched that he covered he covered he covered his signature with his hands when he realized the camera was on him yeah so yeah there's just all kinds of shenanigans going on behind the scenes. At this point, it's like, it was anything real?

Right. Like, was it maybe in the beginning when they very first started. But even then, like, I've heard stories about him giving away fake money and then taking it back on camera or like he, when he was ordering a pizza and then tipping the delivery driver $10,000. Is that not true? Because listen, I actually remember hearing that story. I loved that story.

I thought that was great. He's like, yeah, the guy came back the next day. He was practically in tears and he was thanking me. He was able to spend the day with his son. And then he did one where he was tipping the, he would order a piece and then tipped a delivery driver of the house. Yeah. Oh,

yeah. They would show up to the house. He'd be like, here's the keys. This is your house now. Pretty much ordeal. With the money, with the money one,

I'm assuming he gave him the money, but there's clips of him holding the money out in front of the guy. He's like, can you smile? And he got smiles. Like, well, can you do like a bigger,

a bigger thing? Like a bigger smile. Making him do the, can you do this? Can you do this? Yeah. Totally fake. Yeah.

He was like kind of like, I have to get this perfect, you know, perfect snapshot. And there has been, you know, we'll get to the Amazon games a little bit later, which is that's kind of a developing story, but they were saying that in the Amazon game, like, they gave them like $20,000 or $10,000 on camera, they get all excited. And they're like, okay, you know, when you take that back, you're actually, it's a different settlement, like we're going to pay you later, or they haven't received the money yet. And there's been times.

You'll get a check in the mail. This was just for the camera. Yeah. You don't really get this cash. We're going to send it to you later in the mail and they never. They never said it. I'd be like, you're getting that up. No, you can send me a 1099s, what you can do.

And this is like, this is the Amazon show that's kind of in production. So that's kind of a developing story. But what we'll get to with a guy that did this video that went wrong, he was given cash for the day, like $10,000 every day. He was given cash and then Mr. Beast was like, now can you say to the camera, oh, now I'm going to be able to pay off my student loans. So like, and the guy. You're talking about the guy they tortured. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the guy they talk to have student loans. Like, what are you talking about?

No, they tortured some kid pretty much. They kept them in a room where they, for like, he was supposed to be in there for a hundred days. They didn't let him see any sunlight. They didn't put any clocks in there. They kept the lights on all night long. They apparently had like a jacuzzi in the room with them, but it wasn't hooked up to filtration or anything. So the water just got really stinky and stagnant. And it like had like stuff growing in it.

It's like the shoe. Yeah. So it made the whole room stink and he had like an ice cream machine that was like either super loud or like it stunk really bad because the, Everything was fermenting inside the machine. Like, it was just crazy, like, what they did to this poor kid. And then they came in the middle of the night and brought him a treadmill, and they're like, you have to run a marathon. And he got in the treadmill, and they made him run a marathon.

Like, the blisters on the bottoms of both of his feet were, like, bubbles and all the like the muscles in his legs atrophied and, like, fucking, he had to quit the challenge. And they couldn't even use the video. Like, he was like, I'm done. I quit this whole thing. And then, like, they couldn't even use any of the footage, any of the video. Jimmy was apparently pissed because he spent all this money on the set and, you know, this, that, and the other. A lot of these things just kind of go to show the overall scumbaggery that was going on behind the scenes when everybody thought that, you know, this is YouTube's golden boy.

I mean, this is an honest human being that, you know, does philanthropy work and is just, you know, trying to help people. Right. No. No. Well, this is the Jake Paul scamming people, you know, coming up. No, but everybody knew Jake Paul was a slimy scumbag from the very beginning. I mean, nobody's ever liked him. You know what I mean?

He's got a huge following. He's been, he's had controversy going back 10 years. Okay. Right. It wasn't a surprise to anybody when it came out that they were scamming people and ripping people off. Right. Like, that was expected with Jake and Logan Paul. All right.

With Mr. Beast, what I'm saying is he was. He's always been the wonderful. He was the Dalai Lama, God damn YouTube. Right. You know what I mean? That'd be a good title of Doni Lama. He was. People are wondering, like, why.

Why Mr. Bees and Logan are so close? Like, why is he having Logan in these videos when he's kind of in the midst of all these controversies and things like that? Yeah. And that's kind of some of the rhetoric that you see online as well. So the guy that the mistreatment of the one guy. And it was, he was in, he was the center focal point of Dogpack 404's second video. Okay. On Mr. Beast.

Now, apparently what happened was is they contacted him. They had fired him because he had worked there before. Then they fired him. and then they contacted them and said oh you know since you left on good terms and you were a good employee we need you to come back and you can do this challenge and make some money

and the challenge was is we stay in we lock you in a room for 100 days you have to survive in a room for 100 days and complete all these challenges and then at the end of which you went a bunch of money apparently they tortured this poor guy right I mean they didn't let him see the sun for a month

you know if it's all fake anyway you can let the guy out for a couple hours and let him go run around on the grass like a dog, like you're letting the dog out. Right. But they didn't let him see any sunlight. They didn't let him look at any clocks. There were things in his environment that were potentially hazardous.

Right. And were causing like, you know, irritants to his senses, like sense of smell and all that crap. What else happened? He couldn't sleep. It was like the biggest thing. Insomnia. Yeah, that was like the biggest thing. And they said they needed to keep the lights on all night for time lapse for the time lapse videos when they could have just shot it in.

night vision you know the little green where they put the night vision on they could have shot all that but you know they were torturing the poor kid and then I guess they would come on in the middle of night and like loud sounds on like the speakers and shit like that and like they would get on the microphone at like three in the morning

and start making like barking noises and cat noises just to wake them up like it was torture I mean they were literally torturing the poor kid and then apparently they came in shoe like just like basically the federal prison shoe but you got somebody If you're nonstop, not let you sleep. You know what I mean?

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You go to the special housing unit. And basically what it is is you go there. It's one room. They put you in that room and you stay in that one room for the remainder of your entire sentence in the special house. housing unit. Right. Now, there's a stainless steel toilet in there, a sink, there's a shower. Yep.

You don't leave the room. You're supposed to, they're supposed to let you out like three times, three times a week to go to another small room, a cage, basically a small cage. But it's outside. It's sort of outside. You know what I'm saying? It's kind of outside. I never went to the shoes, so I don't know. So it's covered.

But yeah, you can see outside, but the walls are 20 feet tall. So all you can see is the sky. Like, I'm not seeing outside. It's the sky. We have sunshine coming down on you at least. It depends on when they let you out. Like if they let you out at 3 o'clock, you're not getting three or 4 o'clock. Depends on where the sun is.

Yeah, depends. You may just be in the shadow, but you can see blue sky, maybe cloud. And the thing is when they come around, like you could be sleeping, doing something. They'll walk around. Boom, boom, boom. Shoo, shoe, you ready? You ready? You ready?

Hold on. All right. You get, no. You can do it on Tuesday. you should have been ready. How am I supposed to know when you guys decided? So they do it randomly. So basically you never go outside.

And even then when you go outside, you don't have to go outside once or twice to be like it. So what, you're going to move me from this room to this room so I can see this guy. Go fuck yourself. Yeah. So you are basically, it's exactly that, 24 hours. They would argue you're allowed to go outside for what? One three hours a week? Yeah.

At best. Yeah. You know, and it's allowed all the time. Yeah. never leave certainly toxic like there's fucking black mold in there it's you know i actually liked being in the shoe because i was able to just read and just hang out the whole time and i was alone like i don't like people that much so but even at even me after three or four weeks they knock on the day of cox you taking cellies you'd be i would you know for the first three weeks i'm

like no no after three weeks even i was like yeah yeah put somebody in here somebody to talk to somebody yeah you start getting a little bit cookie you know you start to know only and because Because it's so dark and you don't really know when day or night is, you start counting the meals. They're feeding me three times a day. So by the third meal, I know the one day is gone. So, but yeah. This is very, so it's almost very similar, but do you, would you say this would be worse or? It sounds like that was worse, though, because of the-

He did have a hot tub and an ice cream machine. But the lights did not go off. And that was a bit thing. Yeah, and the knowing, not being able to sleep. At least they're worse. Book Club on Monday. Jim on Tuesday Date night on Wednesday

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ends of five, six, seven, eight hours, you could sleep. And even when as loud as it was, there were only specific times. Like, there were times during the day when people, everybody would pretty much sleep. You could sleep. Listen, I was in a county jail in South Carolina waiting to get charged, waiting to get sentenced and then sent to prison. It's 23 and 1. I was in that room 23 hours a day.

You come out for one hour every single day to either use the phone or take a shower. But you couldn't do both because there was a line for the phone. there was a line for the shower. So you waited in line for the phone and you maybe got to use the phone or you waited in the line for the shower and maybe you got to take a shower. That was Atlanta. When I was in the holdover in Atlanta, it was the same thing. I've been through Atlanta too.

Yeah, yeah. And they had like mice. Everybody calls them rats, but they weren't. They were little tiny mice. They were fine. And what was I going to say? Oh, yeah. Yeah, so yeah, basically that's what it was.

I sat in this room for 23 hours a day. I never came out. There was no radio. You couldn't listen to music. There was no TVs. You couldn't watch TVs. You were lucky if you got a book because there was no book program. There was no bookmobile that came through and everybody got the browse and picked their favorite novel.

I was lucky. No, you would get a book and sometimes it would be ripped in half. So you'd only read half the book. Suckers. They'd rip pages out of the books before you get it. So you never really got to, you know, so there's all kinds of stories out there. I haven't even fully read yet. I've only gotten halfway through and I don't know how they ends.

Listen, I would take an envelope and I would put book. I write book really big, you know, over and over and over. So it was a big thick blockway. And I would slide it out the door. So you could see where it said book, right? And I would slide it up and down. Like, as the guards walk by, I'd be like banging on the door, because they don't even want to make eye contact.

They're walking down the hallway. They don't even look. And I'm sitting there the whole time, slide it up and down. And they'd walk by and they'd go, all right, Cox. I'll get you, calm the fuck down. It's coming. And then they'd come back 20 minutes later.

It's like, shh, and then you do that enough because you have to do it over and over and over again. People are like, will you bugging the guard for? you know how many times I've done this and they've said they're coming and two days later there's still no books yeah you know so they'll tell you don't they're liars eventually as they'll walk down and be like hey I'm gonna give you five books give me five books back though because guys will pile books up in there and I'll be like here take this one this one this one I'm reading this one yeah what about that what about what that you can't be picky cox yeah it's basically

just it's it's human warehousing yeah nothing more nothing less they just they find a hole to put you in they hire somebody to make sure that you're not in there killing yourself or killing somebody else and that's it right that's the extent of of of what jail is it's a human warehouse but what about but nobody ever slid a uh a treadmill into my shit and told me i had to run a marathon either but if they would have i would have yeah i'd be i'd be on that treadmill all day and she said the guy got the guy got sores and is that part of making the he wasn't a cross-country runner it was was that was that what i'm saying to you is um yeah so back to the story back you know back to what it's whatever it's you have to do

whatever they tell you to do okay well so if they come in in the middle of night and they slide a treadmill in there and they say you have to run 20 miles right now or else it's game over and there's three hundred thousand dollars on the line guess what i'm gonna try and run those 20 miles they get this 300 grand yeah i don't care what i don't care what happens yeah they came in and said here's your 10 000 for the day and here's another 10 000 if you can run a marathon and the guy the guy said he felt like he couldn't say no because Because he has to perform for, you know, he's like, I'm a monkey in a cage. I have to perform.

I have to make a good video. Right. Because, like, all this money's on, like, I feel like I can't say no to what they do. How does that work? You know, Mr. Beast and a couple of guys are sitting here saying, what happened to that prick Jake. He used to work here. You know, we ought to do? We ought to, I always didn't like that guy.

We ought to call that fuck her up, lock him up in him. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. I'm sure. I'm sure there's been conversations like that. You know what? Yeah. What can we do to him?

Yeah, what can we do to him? Jake says that in the interview. He's like, I never liked Mr. Beast. Mr. Beast never liked me. He'd always try to cut me out of certain things and do all this kind of stuff. Yeah, he said 90% of my career wound up on the cutting room floor for Mr. Beast. He's like, everything I did never even made it to the videos. And then they brought him back and they tortured the shit out of him.

And once again, they don't use it. Yeah, so apparently Mr. Beast is not just a good guy, the kind-hearted philanthropist that the rest of the world has been led to believe. Right. And that's what I love about this whole situation. Really, no, honestly, truly. That's what I actually truly love about this whole situation. You know?

I know. I know. This is the greatest thing to happen this whole entire year. When you're the one that told me about it, I'd seen like one TikTok or something. And then when I said, hey, do you want to do a video? Do you need to watch a bunch of video? I've watched 20 videos on this. I've watched everything.

I've consumed everything. I've totally on to this. I've been on this for the past four or five days. Ever since the first video, dog pack video came out, I've been following along for everything Because it's interesting And it just keeps getting worse and worse and worse For this guy

So it's not like it's a one-off You know it's kind of like the whole Wasn't me thing It's like a ball of yarn Once the little first been picked The whole thing's coming on while now It's kind of like It's like the Harvey Weinstein thing

Where there's there's these subtle Kind of you know It's kind of known And then they're waiting and waiting It's out there and it's brewing But nobody's everybody's too scared Then one person said hey this isn't right

I'm going to say something they say something next thing you know it's like boom hey same thing hey you know what you know and then boom next thing you know like hashtag me too you're going to prison how has this like how did this happen how did this happen to this many people because he was such a huge

presence and was so powerful nobody wants to be the first thing he controlled people's careers entire careers what's the same thing Mr. Brist is like you're not going to get a job going from Mr. Beast There's no other comparable job. And it's funny you bring up Harvey Weinstein

because apparently Mr. Bees just hired Harvey Weinstein's PR team. Yeah, I think we should get that, but there's one more ex-employee. You can't make this up. Like this, you can't write this. This is how good it is. You can't write this.

There was just like yesterday or two days ago there was another ex-employee that came out. Do you want to explain the situation? Boziac? Is this the guy? The vet created obstacle course. Okay, so right. He wasn't actually an employee.

It was a younger black kid. and I don't know why that's important, but he was, but he is. And he came out and he said that Mr. Bees flew him out there for a few days to interview, and they put him in a think tank group, and they were like, okay, well, we need to come up with all these ideas. You know, show us what you got pretty much. You know, pitch us your ideas for the next two or three episodes or whatever like that. And I think they gave him a thumbnail and a title to a video that hadn't been created yet. and they were like create a video for this thumbnail and this title

that's their creative process apparently behind the scenes and apparently I didn't know this but it's past backwards I know but I've heard that from quite a few people that's how they that's how they make all their YouTube videos first before they even make them up the video they'll make a thumbnail and they'll make a title and then they'll build the video from the thumbnail and from the title because those two things those two components are so important on YouTube because it's basically a search engine I mean it's obviously working for him yeah so they gave him a thumbnail they gave him a title he came

with this whole idea about this Mario Brothers obstacle course that was suspended in the sky with these things swinging back and forth where they got to go and then they basically sent him home and said your services are no longer needed thank you for coming and hanging out with us you know we don't have any room for you at Mr. Beast at this moment then I don't know how long after that came out it was a month two months three months later a video came out and it was his idea it was the exact idea that he had pitched to Mr. Beast that he had wrote out on and it was his idea and they took it from him didn't pay him anything and used a video used his idea for a video and made I don't know how many millions of dollars so if he did it once he's done it multiple times with multiple people they just haven't everybody too scared to come out and say anything about it right the guy who actually competed in this video that he made this guy named Matt he was in these challenges like these $800,000 challenges to win like he's $800,000 challenges to win like Big obstacle course, high stakes. But the whole time, he's actually just an employee of Mr. Beas.

And the first exposing video, he shows you things. Like, he's looking at the clock to make sure that it runs down to the last second, things like that. And then he loses. He feels sympathetic for him. Like, there's all this pressure when really he was hired by Mr. Bees. He moved out there. Like, he's on salary.

He's fine. Yeah. And so, yeah, that's another thing that Dogpack 404 videos exposed is that all those timers are fake. Like all those video shots of those timers taken down. because it creates the urgency of the video. And that's all a part of the whole formula, which is the Mr. Beast perpetual ball of bullshit.

The mistreatment, we kind of were going over that, which I think that kind of goes with the Mr. Beast games, like the Amazon game that's going on. Right. So there's been rumors. He's got something cooking with Amazon. It's called Beast Games, which is basically they're taking his YouTube show

and putting it on Amazon and creating a show around it where people have, contestants have to compete. And the obstacle courses or challenges for a cash prize. I'm assuming. I mean, it hasn't been released yet, so I don't know. But there's been reports of unsafe working conditions. Whatever hospital was in the area that they were filming in, said there's people constantly coming in with broken bones and fractures and lacerations

and dehydration and seizures because apparently Mr. Bees isn't giving them their medication when they need it. There was one dude who needed insulin, and there was like 24 hours. past when he was supposed to get it and he had some kind of medical issue because they weren't giving him his insulin he said uh mr beast when they were they weren't feeding them proper meals like they were feeding him chocolate bars his yeah mr beast uh chocolate bars they were just given them feastables the chocolate bars for meals and like they said when they did get a meal it'd be like a styrofoam thing and it'd be cold and it'd be like a little scoop of like cold eggs and like some oatmeal or something like that like you know it's just horrible horrible you know prison

food yeah they'll feed them like prisoners you know so there's all these these these these accounts of misconduct you know people not being treated right the medication the feeding the injuries all that and that's all surrounding this Amazon thing that's coming out but he's got all this other controversy that's all hitting right now at the same time

and the Amazon shit hasn't even dropped yet and Amazon as apparently invested 100 million dollars into this operation and the whole deal why he went with Amazon is because him and his team were supposed to have full creative control to do whatever they want And no oversight.

I actually listened to a video today. No OSHA. Or someone who said they kind of have like a source saying like that right now is kind of being retracted. And they're bringing in professional game show people. Right. Because like all things that have been going on. Like there was rumors saying like the events, some of the events were like physical.

And like the big strong males are just like dragging like, you know, females, weak people. Just like overhauling these overpowering these people and these challenges. That's kind of an ongoing thing. Because I don't think Mr. Beast games is done yet. It's like it's still going on. It has been canceled. I mean, we're still, like, we're in the, we're in the midst of everything right now. Like, there hasn't been a conclusion to any of this.

Like, things are still coming out, accusations are still being made. So it's like, who knows? I mean, who knows if Amazon even wants to, because there's two ways to look at it. Either Amazon puts it out and it's going to get the views because people want to, you know, no, no presses bad press kind of thing. And Mr. Beast's videos are still getting 35 million views, 40 million views, a video. Hundreds and millions. Yeah, people don't, I was going to say, people, people don't care. As far as having like stuff stolen from you, ideas stolen from you, I, at one point I was, I had had a story that I had written stolen from me.

And I went to a lawyer and I was like, listen, bro, but this is what happened. I can prove this. I can prove that. And before and, you know, ultimately, you know, we ended up suing. But he was like, well, you know, do you expect to work in this industry? I'm like, yeah, I'm hoping to make a living. doing this. I was still in the halfway house. And he goes, well, do you really want to be known as the guy that goes around suing people? And I said, I'd rather be the guy that goes around suing people

than the guy that's known can get consistently ripped off and we'll do nothing about it. And he's like, yeah, but you know, Hollywood, they remember that stuff and they don't want to deal with you. I'm like, well, if that's what's happened, I'll do something else. But you're not going to keep stealing from me. You know, and it's okay. So, but, you know, so these guys that are, I'm giving ideas, like they're hoping to, maybe they're hoping to make a career of it so they don't say anything because that's the Harvey Weinstein thing. That's why, like, that's why a lot of those actresses didn't come out and say anything. Why? Because I'm going to stay in this business.

I was going to mention earlier. That's how Jennifer Lawrence apparently got the Hunger Games movies, was sleeping with Harvey Weinstein. That came out. So it worked out for her. It did. Yeah. She's a big star now. Look at her.

Yeah. Good for her. Yeah. The Jake guy who just came out, he said he, he was silent for so long because he doesn't want to hurt his reputation because he never knows when he might get called back in a chance or opportunity. God, I can imagine. That's just.

Yeah. He lets somebody do you like that. It's like, I better not say nothing because I can come back in the future and make a little money. And be abused again. Yeah. Yeah. So, dude, money's the root of all the evil, man. In the midst of all this, like the original dog pack guy who made the exposés is receiving

NDAs or not NDAs, or not NDA, cease and assist. Yeah, yeah. He got two cease and assist letters from two different, um, law offices, law firms, I believe his response to the NDAs was, I'm not ceasing to, you know, you can cease and desist these nuts. Yeah. I'm not stopping anything. It's basically what he said.

The problem is, is that, you know, you can be right absolutely 100% right. And if the other person has more money, they'll just grind you down. Yeah. Like you can't fight. They'll drag you. I can't fight a 300-man law firm with, you know, what? I'm broke. I just show up the court with no lawyer. Yeah. Just drum the prices. I just drum that law bill up on you. I'll write my motions in Green Crown. Not right, Your Honor. Yeah. But most people,

they just get terrified, right? Like, he's going to get a huge judgment against me. And there was something else with this NDA situation with Mr. Beast. Like, the NDA situation with him, apparently is absolutely insane. Like, people are terrified because of the NDAs. Yeah, a lot of people are texting this guy, like, anonymously. Right. Yeah, like, hey, like, you know, this is what's going on or this, I experienced this, but they don't want to come out publicly.

Pretty much everything is kind of hearsay at this point with pretty much everything we've been covering. But one of the things was people are saying that Mr. Beast is also hiring, or the Beast company, is hiring private investigators to try to dig up dirt on the people that were exposing. So, yeah. To try and attack their character. like oh this guy he's on drugs he's depressed he's this he's that yeah that's just that's just that's crazy worse that's just all that's a bad move do you're digging i i think everything he's done

is just making himself making things worse for himself right everything he's done has been wrong since the very beginning the going back into the leading comments and deleting parts of the videos the china the nda the the cover up the cup this dad the cover up is almost a giant scandal in and itself never mind everything that's happened right never mind that it's It's obvious that there's a cover up going on. And even that by itself is bad. Apparently there was a company leaked email. Like they're going across like all new training and all this kind of stuff.

It's like a big cover letter breaking down all this new stuff. Was leaked. Yeah. Was leaked. Yeah. People were saying like they purposely leaked. Like we're trying to. Because it says, oh, we need to hire diversity.

They're going to hire a diversity staff to get everybody trained in diversity. And they want to, they're going to hire an HR team to heavily. to better scrutinize employees in the future for their backgrounds and we're going to do all this kind of training and yeah it was like basically this is what we're doing because we know we're in wrong it got leaked but this is you know yeah we're actively trying to clean up our act yes yeah there were this was before that there was company policy that was like a you know handbook or whatever and there was two things that were kind of noted in it no doesn't mean no no doesn't mean no like when they're trying to find a place to film

or they're trying to get something done for Mr. Beast like if the manager says no like try to find an employee that knows Mr. Bees. Yeah, one of the examples was given was like if you say for instance we need a dollar store to buy every single item in the entire store and the manager keeps telling you know well then you need to find another manager

or you need to find an employee who has children who are fans of Mr. Beast and like you know like no doesn't mean no like you have to exhaust all of your options And another thing in the handbook was a part where it's about taking accountability. Like, hey, if you mess up, like, it's okay. Like, just take accountability and let's learn from that mistake and not make it again. And people are saying, like, you know, they're not following their own policy.

Like, I'm this biggest thing. Like, there was a big controversy. Now, obviously, these guys are in two different levels, but this guy named Sketch had blown up just as last year. He's like a streamer, plays video games, and things like that. And it turns out, like, two or three years ago, he was going. going through some substance abuse and stuff and he was like had a homosexual only fans like no one knew about this

and like everybody's wondering what's he going to say that was some substance abuse issues he just like he just gets on he gets on a live stream and he's just like I did not have sexual relations with that woman or something and he's like actually that was me and he just basically came out and was just like hey you know this is what I was at this was the situation like that's not who I am anymore

and just kind of like did a genuine Heartfelt thing. Like I wasn't gay. That was substance abuse. Yeah. Who knows? Who knows the whole situation with all that? But he basically, something like that, people just cancel him, ride him off.

Like, oh, dude, this dude's just insane. But he did that. And, like, I mean, just kind of smooth sailing. Like, a lot of people have, like, gained more respect for him. Because he came out and he owned up to him right away. He's almost, Mr. Beas is almost, I guess he's so big and there's so many different factors that he maybe can't do that legally. Well, because there'll be litigation.

Yeah, there's so many. People, people know he's got money. They're going to sue him. If he admits to any wrongdoing, you open yourself up to litigation, no? I don't know. You know what I mean? I don't know. Maybe it sounds to me like-

Because you just admitted that you were wrong on video. So now- Right, but you're making yourself look at even. You're just, you know. Well, I mean, you're making yourself look. There's ways to come out and say something that's written appropriately. There were mistakes that were made, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, that's it. But then to actively start scrubbing everything.

You know, that's where it starts looking bad. Like, say, look, we made some mistakes. We've done this. There have been times that we had budget, or and we faked this or that things weren't working out and that I was under a lot of pressure and I did this and I did that and that was a mistake like faking the games and stuff like that you're not going to get sued you're not there's tons of stuff that you're not going to get sued if you do get sued okay so it's probably better to get sued than have your your views drop down to you know or drop dramatically like better to come out right I mean he's got to have a legal team and he's got to run everything past legal you have an HR team if you can have a legal team that's true Say, you'd need to save more money if he started with an HR team instead of the legal team. Yeah, that's true. I think his mom probably wasn't a good idea for HR in the beginning.

Yeah, it's like at what point, yeah, do you transition from a YouTuber to an actual, hey, we got to run like a business. If all this means, if there's millions of dollars being made, as soon as the first millions made, that's when you start making smart decisions. Right, yeah, hiring your friends and family to be able to make up your entire organization is a mistake. Big mistake, yeah. So with all the information given, like, do you think anything will happen criminally? I personally don't think so. No, look, to me, the Logan Paul thing, like, he was actively running a scam. Like, that whole crypto zoo.

Yeah, he's still laughing, making money on YouTube. Yeah, yeah, he's not paying anybody back. He's not owning up to anything. He's go, basically, I took your money, go fuck yourself. Now poor Coffeezilla is about to go bankrupt and lose his channel. Right. So, yeah, he's that, like, you know, the problem is that the guy with the most, money, you know, wins.

Like, you can just be a, you can act like a, if you have enough money, you can be a complete jackass and just, and, and just beat everyone else out with just throwing money at the problem and attorneys. And that's, unfortunately, that's the way it is. That happens a ton in the justice system and it happens civilly too. Yeah. And Mr. B isn't even going to own up to it. Yeah, he's just going to continue putting out videos.

He's going to continue sending out. cease and assist letters. He's going to continue just to sue people. He's going to continue to delete videos and do cover-ups and just continue on, like, everything is all fine and peachy. Because what other option does he have? Because if he comes out when he admits to it, I mean, we're talking about YouTube's golden boy here. Well, yeah, it'll be the end.

It'll be the end of his career. I mean, time, you know, time heals all wounds, right? Like, the further away this fiasco gets from him, the better off, then it'll be that thing that happened a few years ago, ignore and deny, ignore and deny, ignore and deny. And we're just going to keep ignoring it and denying it and sending out legal, send our legal team out. And hopefully, like you said, people will just forget about it. The YouTube algorithm will stop promoting these videos and it'll just be business as usual. How do you think Mr. Bees is feeling?

Because this is a guy who's like, since 13 is like, I think he shit his pants. Probably somewhat on the spectrum where he is hyper focused. This is his only life. Yeah, he's definitely autistic. He's definitely autism. Strictly do YouTube, become the best YouTuber. I think it's one of two things. I think either at this point, because of all the money and the fame,

and, you know, he's just surrounded by people that suck on his asshole all day and just tell him everything he wants to hear. I think that either it's A, he's so cocky, he's just like, ah, he's just like, NDA, or, you know, legal team, legal team, make a video, whatever, I'm the man, I'm the man. Or he's pooping in his panties, and he's making all the bad decisions. and he's in he's freaking out right now which which I think I would love for that to be true I would love you know what I mean that he's just behind closed doors right now pulling his hair out

but honestly I don't really think so I think he's just that cock that cocky and confident you know because he's surrounded by yes men and he's surrounded by yes people and maybe he doesn't even realize how bad the situation is yeah that's always a problem you know and yourself by people to do nothing but agree with you that's always good this just always goes bad So you have to be you have to have people around you every once in a while that call you, tell you you your dick and tell you that's a bad idea, you know, even if you don't listen to it. You at least have to be able to trust the people that are around you that help you because otherwise you become, you become delusional and, you know, you're living in a fantasy world. And then when the carpet gets yanked out from underneath you, you don't even see it coming. Hey, I appreciate you guys watching.

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